In this episode of Inverted world, we discuss the House vote, incels becoming trans, and the case of Ashley Babbitt's mom, Marjorie Taylor Greene. We're joined by Luke Chilling and Eliza Blue to discuss all that and more.
00:00:53.000And we're hearing There will be, we have a potential statement from victims.
00:00:58.000I don't want to say too much, so just bear with me on this one.
00:01:01.000And then we've got some other really crazy stories in cultural spaces that I want to talk about.
00:01:05.000One, this story I saw the other day, I think it was James Lindsay who posted it, incels are Becoming trans, not because they're gender dysphoric, but because they hold this ideology.
00:01:18.000And I don't know to what degree all of them feel this way, but apparently there are some guys that think women have it so much better, and they're small effeminate men, that they're better off transitioning for social benefits, even though they're not really gender dysphoric or anything like that.
00:01:41.000Marjorie Taylor Greene's yelling about it.
00:01:43.000So we'll get into all that stuff, plus more.
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00:02:42.000Joining us today to talk about this and more is Eliza Blue.
00:03:07.000Hey guys, my name's Zukerdowski of WeAreChange.org, and I just wanted to remind everyone that if you need violence to enforce your ideas, your ideas are worthless.
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00:03:42.000I've done a few profiles recently on Kanye West and Carrie Lake's election trial.
00:03:48.000And thank you guys for supporting me and saying some nice words.
00:03:51.000And we got that Brunson trial that everyone's really excited about where people think the Supreme Court will kick Joe Biden out of office, which is just, it's not gonna happen, but we'll definitely talk about that, too, and we can talk about the Carrier Lake stuff, because that article you wrote, the profile, was actually really, really great.
00:04:21.000So before I say what I'm about to say, I just want to let everyone know that I serve these survivors speaking here as their survivor advocate.
00:04:29.000And to anyone that needs more information, I will be giving information at the end of this.
00:04:33.000So if survivors need to step forward, and as always, anytime I'm on a show, just know that you can reach out to the Human Trafficking Hotline at any time.
00:04:41.000I can also give that number throughout this stream as well.
00:05:04.000As a survivor of the Tate brothers, I understand how difficult it can be to come forward and speak out about what happened to you.
00:05:13.000But when social media gives us a glimpse into the extreme harm that others cause, I feel obligated to step forward and speak out against it.
00:05:24.000If these words can prevent one woman from being an alleged victim of Andrew and Tristan Tate, it justifies the risk that I'm taking.
00:05:34.000It can be scary, overwhelming, and you may feel like you don't have anyone to turn to.
00:05:41.000If you or someone you know is a survivor, know that you are not alone and that there is help available.
00:05:48.000By coming forward together, we may be able to find justice for ourselves and prevent these perpetrators from hurting anyone else.
00:05:57.000It is a brave and important step towards healing and finding closure.
00:06:04.000I know it can be hard to take this first step, but I promise you that there are resources and people ready and available to help you through this process.
00:06:13.000Don't let fear or shame keep you from speaking out.
00:06:16.000Let this be a reminder that you deserve to be heard, to feel safe and supported.
00:06:21.000You have You have the absolute right to seek justice.
00:06:25.000This is a moment and an opportunity for any victim of these alleged perpetrators to stand up and together we can recognize vulnerability as power, see the strength in numbers, and shine light on strength of every single survivor.
00:09:45.000To the survivors that are currently developing your strength to take that first step of coming forward, we are suited up, and you have an army of warriors ready to lock arms with you, and that's true.
00:10:20.000Teresa J. Helm is now working full-time at NACOZI, and NACOZI Law will be representing the survivors, the American survivors and Western survivors, in the Andrew Tate case.
00:10:31.000What do we know about what Andrew Tate was doing?
00:10:35.000What do we have in terms of hard facts?
00:10:38.000So, just based off my relationship, I'm not going to speak too, too much about, you know, the case, but I will be posting those statements onto my Twitter account, at Eliza Blue.
00:11:58.000So we need to make sure before those survivors step forward, if and when they choose, because it's always up to the survivor, you can be a part of a lawsuit and be a Jane or John Doe, right?
00:12:08.000But if and when these survivors decide to step forward, we need to make sure that they are safe.
00:12:14.000And this goes to any survivor out there that's listening, if you decide to step forward in this case, either as a Jane Doe or whatever.
00:12:58.000And are you confident, like, from what your information that you're getting, is this a solid case from your experience working in this kind of particular field?
00:13:10.000Because I know there's still a lot of things up in the air.
00:13:44.000The main challenge I have, first I want to stress, there's a lot of people defending Andrew Tate, and by all means, I have not watched everything he's ever put out.
00:13:54.000But I have seen a portion of many different podcasts people have sent me.
00:14:00.000I don't take those with a lot of weight because out-of-context statements don't sway me.
00:14:05.000Seeing a 30-second or even a 4-minute clip of Andrew Tate talking about something, I'll be like, okay, I'll consider that he said that.
00:14:47.000The first thing I'll say is, I understand why people are skeptical.
00:14:51.000We've not actually seen any evidence from Romania other than accusations, and to be honest, even the statements that you have so far didn't actually assert anything.
00:15:02.000It's just people saying they were survivors and they're looking for more people to come forward.
00:15:07.000So, I mean, that's the first step, I suppose, but for the time being, that's why the lawyers probably said, say, allegedly, because we've not heard anything other than he convinced women to go and work for him and that it was exploitation and illegitimate, that he was a lover boy, that he was telling them how much he loved them, come out, and then actually was just putting them into these situations.
00:15:30.000I guess people are saying outside of, I will say this, These anonymous statements but also Vice put out a video that allegedly comes from witnesses.
00:15:40.000The other thing I'll add to it is I can also understand why people are skeptical on this because We've not gotten any accountability from Epstein, despite the fact that that guy got arrested, Maxwell was convicted.
00:15:52.000We know there were people flying on his plane.
00:15:53.000We know some of the people who were on his island, some of these names have been released, and there's been literally nothing done on it.
00:15:59.000But then Andrew Tate gets raided, so people are asking questions.
00:16:02.000Is it that Andrew Tate gained power in a way that was outside of the Epstein, you know, group, and thus he's not protected?
00:16:10.000I'm releasing my own statement later tonight.
00:16:16.000My statement comes straight at the throat, but it's a little long to read on your show, to be honest.
00:16:20.000But like, Andrew Tate didn't donate to Democrats, is that why he gets arrested?
00:16:24.000So I think there's a lot of people who are just like, we don't believe it, because if they really cared about trafficking, they'd have gone after this wholist— I mean, like, Luke named off a ton of people already who were implicated that they never went after.
00:16:36.000So this is why people are just like, I don't buy it.
00:16:38.000Andrew, like, I'm not, I'm not saying I know, look, I don't know anything about Andrew Tate.
00:16:43.000But I can certainly understand why people are skeptical if you get a guy who comes out and tells people to break free from the machine, get away from the Matrix, be masculine, and then they're like, they ban him from every platform, then arrest him.
00:16:54.000He's never said any- he doesn't say anything that, like, Luke doesn't say, like, I mean, seriously, like, literally, it's not like he's, like, reinventing the wheel, and I don't want to get too much into his- I- I have no opinion on him, and I- I- I'm gonna let the court decide, I really will, um, and I'll- I'll go with that, whatever, but, I mean, literally, it's not like he's coming out and, like, saying anything that's super groundbreaking, or, you know, it's- he's not Julian Assange.
00:18:46.000In the Virgin Islands, in the United States, they literally had an island that they flew in powerful people and they procured small children to them.
00:18:52.000So obviously this is a very important issue here.
00:18:55.000This is an issue that we can't forget.
00:18:57.000This is an issue that we need to fight for since everything that usually happens in our mainline political system is protecting these individuals and very rarely do we get any justice here.
00:19:08.000Now, when it comes to this particular case, I know you don't feel comfortable talking about some of the accusations or some of the evidence here, so I'm just trying to frame some questions so we get a kind of bigger understanding here.
00:19:20.000If I could ask, did you know these victims beforehand?
00:20:07.000And that's all I'm going to say about that right now.
00:20:12.000I don't want to break any of their... I have to be very mindful of what I say because I don't want to give away any of their identities.
00:20:17.000But from your experience, you 100% believe them?
00:20:20.000I believe every survivor that I serve.
00:20:23.000But I also do my part in explaining due diligence.
00:20:26.000Sorry, explaining, I do my due diligence in explaining due process.
00:20:31.000Yeah, because some people are gonna, you know, take that question and are saying, well, if you believe everyone, how do we know if someone's not, you know, using this situation for their own personal benefit?
00:20:41.000Well, number one, they don't get any money from me.
00:20:44.000And they don't get, I mean, as you can see, they're not even coming out their full name yet.
00:20:47.000By the way, these two survivors probably will.
00:20:51.000We just need to make sure that they're safe.
00:20:53.000You have to understand, we didn't necessarily know that the Romanian law enforcement was going to move ahead with what they did right then.
00:21:00.000So it's putting the other survivors that have been building their case globally for a while, we're all in like hyper mode, trying to not catch up, but sort of catch up.
00:21:34.000I believe that anytime someone faces trauma in this way, sexual assault, domestic violence, human trafficking, that there is a high potential, especially in children, of their life to end right then and there.
00:21:46.000You never know how violent it's going to get.
00:21:50.000And that's, it's funny, I think sometimes people think I'm like, Kind of a nut job, because I'm so grateful to be alive all the time.
00:21:56.000I don't think they understand what I've fully been through.
00:22:00.000Anyone that survived that type of trauma is very grateful to be alive, because sometimes I think about the times I could have died, and I'm shocked that I didn't.
00:22:08.000So yes, they have survived the trauma.
00:22:40.000So I guess the question is, and I'm not saying it's not true, you know, for a lot of these women, I could imagine that they do end up dead, especially when it comes to the more serious international trafficking.
00:22:50.000They get forced onto drugs, onto opiates, because it'll make them more manageable, and then many of them do die from this.
00:22:57.000My concern is, I wouldn't say based on the accusations, on the Andrew Tate thing it's probably iffy.
00:23:03.000I think the issue is a lot of leftists, a lot of woke people will call themselves survivors when it's like someone said nasty things to them or like they got into a fight in the street.
00:25:35.000To those who want to support survivors, please do during this time, whether it be myself, the survivors of Epstein-Maxwell, or the alleged survivors of Tate.
00:25:47.000Please do, because their supporters are very loud.
00:25:55.000And I think it would be very helpful if you're a supporter of survivors, if you speak out.
00:26:03.000Skepticism like this, though, is maybe a consequence of the oversaturation of false allegations from a lot of the last few years.
00:26:10.000And I was telling people when those were happening, the consequence of this is going to be when people do step forward, no one's going to believe it anymore.
00:26:17.000People haven't believed survivors since they started stepping forward and they've only recently said... Let me just say real quick, when Alex Jones was talking about Epstein, he was called crazy and a conspiracy theorist and now 10, 12, 13, however long it's been, all of a sudden it's like...
00:26:37.000I understand a lot of people like Andrew Tate, and they probably do because he's telling them to step up, push back against the machine, and he's had several videos that we've praised.
00:26:46.000Notably where he said, I really love it, he says, whether I'm happy or unhappy is irrelevant.
00:26:52.000If I wake up unhappy, I gotta do the exact same thing I would do if I was happy.
00:26:55.000And I'm like, that's a really good point.
00:26:57.000He had another video where he said, you gotta keep working, you can't stop.
00:27:01.000Rocket ship going to the moon doesn't stop halfway to chill out.
00:27:51.000You can do more than one thing at once and you could care about more than one set of survivors or potential crimes at once.
00:27:59.000I agree, but what we're seeing here is this massive international and corporate press effort going after this guy and his brother while they have protected, along with the government protected, one of the most egregious trafficking rings we have ever seen in the history of this planet.
00:28:14.000And I believe that the survivors of Epstein deserve justice as well, and I believe that all co-conspirators in the Epstein case should be held accountable as well.
00:28:25.000I'm sorry, I'm not going to give them an inch because they're skipping over Epstein and Maxwell.
00:28:28.000What you're not understanding is that sometimes there is a trickle effect.
00:28:32.000There are still things happening with the Epstein case, and I want to remind everyone out there watching, every time you think that the Epstein case is done, more happens.
00:28:40.000There's only so much that the survivors can do, but they are still fighting.
00:28:55.000So let's hopefully push for justice with the Epstein-Maxwell case, and that all co-conspirators are held accountable.
00:29:03.000But also, you can care about another case and hope that if justice needs to be received, If we could get a little bit of clarification here.
00:29:11.000I also want to talk about the Vice piece a little bit here, but we know what was happening with Epstein to a certain level, which was really, really bad.
00:29:19.000Outside of the legal perspective, what do you think was happening here with the Tate brothers?
00:29:41.000Taking small children that were like nine years old and then bringing them out to islands to, you know, have other powerful people fly in, do whatever they want.
00:30:00.000Because every human's different, abuse can affect an individual differently.
00:30:05.000So it's not like, there's a word I want to use right now, but I just want to keep the show clean.
00:30:10.000It's not a tit-for-tat game when it comes to abuse.
00:30:14.000It's not like one abuse is worse than one abuse.
00:30:16.000I've met survivors who were sexually assaulted one time, and it's harder on them, that one abuse is harder on them than survivors who have been sexually abused, locked up, chained, For a very long time.
00:30:28.000We don't play a tit-for-tat game when it comes to abuse.
00:30:51.000So if I'm sitting here saying I'm serving two of the survivors, in fact, I've broken bread with some of the people that are really super cool with Tate.
00:31:11.000In fact, quick reminder to everyone at home, I just went through my dregs where I've been getting dragged by the corporate press left and right.
00:31:19.000Before we move on to the next story, I wanted to talk about this vice report that just also recently came out, because they detailed how seven years ago, he was also accused of sexual assault and physical abuse in the United Kingdom.
00:31:31.000But from that case, the UK authorities actually declined to prosecute him, and Tate released the statement about this, specifically through his lawyer, while in Romanian custody, saying specifically that the individuals accusing him were trying to go after money, saying quote the police understood after the investigation that i am innocent and the police found messages from the girls phones where they were talking between themselves and planning to lie about me end quote that's what andrew tate said according to the response of this vice uh report that specifically detailed how he uh punched one girl in the arm and allegedly forced himself on another girl in in a shower from one of the girls who was who's seeing it
00:32:12.000The woman also decided to remain anonymous here.
00:32:15.000But this vice report is, of course, something that everyone is talking about and saying this is not the first time he's being accused of something like this as well.
00:33:56.000Now, Elon Musk comes in and almost immediately cleans up a good majority of this.
00:34:00.000All of a sudden, now the corporate press is like, on Elon Musk's Twitter, where was any of this reporting when this was going on under the nose of Jack Dorsey and Vijay Gadde?
00:34:17.000I do want to stay focused on now as we get into the Twitter story, but I am not surprised that people hear the Tate story and they say, I don't trust it.
00:34:26.000And then because you have the active protection from the press, from the legal department, from international authorities defending this stuff on Twitter, protecting the Epstein client list and things like that.
00:34:38.000This is why people are just like, I don't believe it.
00:34:40.000When they know what you don't like, the corporate press, they go after you with the same things that you don't like.
00:34:46.000Like when they went after Matt Walsh saying he was a groomer.
00:35:04.000And so they are now trying, they've been running this smear campaign where they say, James Lindsay, a known associate of the Nixxiom sex cult.
00:35:11.000They met at a conference, like it would be like you guys being associated with me.
00:35:17.000Because you're here talking to us about ideas.
00:35:19.000That's why it's just, it's really hard when the corporate press comes out and these authorities come out and they're like, well, you know, Andrew Tait did these things.
00:36:26.000But that was when the first piece in the Guardian that I've been able to find there could be others out there talking about the child sexual abuse material problem on Twitter was a decade ago.
00:36:37.000So Elon Musk purchased a platform that had a decades-old problem and now the corporate press once again.
00:36:46.000First and foremost, I'd like to pull up every article that the corporate media wrote about this issue on Twitter specifically prior to Elon Musk purchasing this platform.
00:36:56.000How about every article from like, what was it, Salon and the New York Times that have been actively defending pedophilia, or like the TED Talk from that woman where she actively defended it.
00:37:06.000There was recently, what was it, New Zealand?
00:37:38.000It's so insane that there's corporate media outlets literally calling for Excusing a lot of this behavior by calling it minor attracted persons.
00:37:50.000A police department in Scotland used that against a known pedophile.
00:37:56.000So seeing this, and also seeing, you know, individuals like Yoel Roth, the former head of trust and safety at Twitter, who literally wrote a thesis supporting children using Grindr.
00:38:10.000And now finally the corporate media has a problem with this kind of behavior because Elon Musk is in charge of Twitter.
00:38:17.000They were aiding and abetting it for such a long time and this goes along with, I don't know, let me know what you think, but this goes along towards a larger agenda trying to normalize a lot of this sick behavior.
00:39:32.000Bringing kids out, talking openly and overtly about sex, simulating sexual activities, because the whole process from start to finish was grooming.
00:39:41.000Then you have social media promoting degenerate behavior, showing a lot of outrageous content, especially in people's users, user feeds, especially on Instagram of some of the most borderline pornographic content that you could even imagine.
00:39:54.000And then you have, of course, porn that's readily available.
00:39:56.000Free for everyone, as long as you have an internet connection, you could get to it, and a lot of children are getting it to it, and it's rewiring their brains in very negative ways, over-sexualizing them, making sure that they can never have a strong family unit, and when you break down the family unit, you have more people being victims, you have more people being picked off, you have more people being on their own, and left in a more vulnerable situation.
00:40:20.000And I think, you know, there's many layers to this, and we could keep compounding it, and we could keep connecting the dots, but there's a lot of freaking dots.
00:40:26.000I know people with kids in elementary school who saw some text messages about these young kids talking about being like in polyamorous relationships.
00:40:34.000I mean, I guess my question actually, I'm in a room with men.
00:40:40.000How do men feel about the world headed in this direction?
00:40:47.000But what, I guess at a certain point, I do kind of wonder when the men are gonna do a thing, and I know that makes me not a feminist or whatever, and I'm not.
00:41:00.000I only am out here doing what I do because there's... Let me not get myself fully... If there were... I don't wanna be doing this job.
00:41:11.000I don't want to be protecting women that are being abused.
00:41:15.000I want good men of the world to be protecting these women.
00:41:20.000But because there aren't enough out here, I have to be out here.
00:42:00.000They were one of the few organizations out there.
00:42:03.000Mike Cernovich and the Daily Mail, surprisingly, one of the few organizations that first started to actually talk about this in a very serious way.
00:42:10.000But first, it was independent media before anyone else.
00:42:13.000I just want to say, I was ragging on the Daily Mail earlier because they're obsessed with Meghan Markle and Prince Harry or whatever, but equally they would not shut up about Prince Andrew during the Epstein stuff, and I'm like, that I like.
00:43:48.000And the machine is telling, is advocating for hardcore degeneracy.
00:43:53.000And so I think for a lot of people, I'm not here to accuse or defend Andrew Tate, but I think what I see from a lot of people in the chat when they're split on this is, if this guy at the very least is saying, exercise, workout, be strong, be tough, and break from the machine, the end result of that puts a stop to a lot of this, whatever it is he's accused of doing.
00:44:31.000You should break free from the machine.
00:44:33.000And you should, you know, I'm not saying every man has to be a masculine man, because that's not a thing that I believe, but I mean, yes, you should work out and eat right.
00:44:42.000You should break free from the machine.
00:44:44.000You should break free from the Matrix or whatever.
00:44:46.000You should be red-pilled, white-pilled, past all that, you know, but you should also not abuse people.
00:44:52.000I think a lot of the problem is a consequence of what Luke was saying about the family structure being destroyed.
00:44:56.000And a lot of people today, a lot of men today, don't have father figures.
00:44:59.000And they're raised with the government being their parent, the colleges being their parents.
00:45:04.000If they have a say at home, mom or dad, that parent is out all the time.
00:45:08.000So they're kind of being raised by, I think, mostly bad people.
00:45:12.000But also, when you're not strong, when you don't have a family unit, you're vulnerable.
00:45:16.000And the predator class, which is made up of a lot of psychopathic politicians and billionaires out there, preys on a lot of individuals who can't defend themselves, who are not strong enough to do so.
00:45:26.000Or if they are victimized, they're not going to be able to go to anybody because they have no family member in order to protect them or even report that they're missing.
00:45:33.000I do get what you're saying though, Tim.
00:46:02.000One, A woman was on a train and some guy started getting in her face, schmoozing on her and being really aggressive and no man would intervene.
00:46:11.000And then she was really angry and she was like, why wouldn't any man stand up for me?
00:46:15.000Well, there's a lot of reasons why they won't do it.
00:46:17.000Another story I read years ago, this may be like 10 years ago, not this point.
00:46:20.000A guy was in a store and there was a journalist who was in a store, saw a child crying with no parents, seemingly lost.
00:46:29.000And she said, I saw a man walk up, walk towards this kid, looking at the kid, concerned, then stopped, looked around, turned around and walked away.
00:46:37.000They ran up to the child, like this person, and got a security guard to help the person.
00:46:42.000And then the reporter said, she then ran to the man and asked him why he turned around and didn't help the kid.
00:46:47.000And the man said, because I would be accused of having kidnapped that kid and I don't want to be involved.
00:46:52.000That is a crazy prospect that we have this story from Philadelphia where a woman was being raped on the train in front of people and what did they do?
00:47:02.000Most of them just said, leave me alone.
00:48:00.000A society where the men and women are separated.
00:48:03.000When the men are overprotective, you get that.
00:48:05.000When the men feel like they're not allowed to protect women and children, they'll be punished, imprisoned, or insulted for being masculine, you get the inverse.
00:49:59.000She writes this op-ed where it's vague and she has this narrative that Johnny Depp is the bad guy.
00:50:07.000And then the full story kind of comes out and it's like, well, they're both kind of ish heads to each other, but she was definitely being abusive towards him.
00:50:15.000And so what happens is you have this longstanding, it's been a decade or longer, the, you know, believe all women.
00:50:22.000And are our legal systems built upon innocent until proven guilty and the right to confront your accusers?
00:50:28.000So immediately people take issue with anonymous accusations without evidence.
00:50:31.000I mean that's, especially with Julian Assange being falsely accused, that pissed off a lot of people, especially the anti-war movement, because then they dropped it and it was fake to begin with and they used it as an excuse to lock this guy up for a decade and prevent him from doing his work.
00:51:41.000If you would attack the rapist to stop him knowing you would get locked up in jail and put a two in chat if you would not want to risk your freedom in life for a random woman.
00:51:56.000Yeah, I think that's a good question actually.
00:51:57.000I think the truly masculine, the real masculine is a man saying, let them come.
00:52:04.000I'm not letting this man hurt this woman.
00:52:06.000That's in line with the come and take it.
00:52:09.000You will try to aggress upon me, you will try to infringe upon my rights, but I will stand firm on what I know to be true.
00:52:15.000But there's going to be a lot of people who are maybe more cynical, and I don't mean this in a disrespectful way, because I can understand it, where they're like, dude, if they want to keep advocating for this and voting for it, if 70% of millennial women keep wanting to be voting for these policies, why would I go to jail for them when they asked for it?
00:52:31.000And I mean like ask for the policies, not obviously to be attacked.
00:52:34.000So one of my rules is that I'm not... Yo, it's split in the chat.
00:52:39.000Sometimes I want to... So it's difficult as a human to hear so many stories, especially about children, and not want to seek vigilante justice.
00:52:48.000So I understand those who do, but I am of no use if I'm in prison or jail because I decided to go out on a freaking LARP and do things the, you know, whatever way.
00:52:58.000But so, it's like you're on a train, and a guy grabs a woman and throws her down, and he's on the train raping her.
00:53:07.000And there is people saying like, if I intervene, not only will I get hurt, but I'll get arrested.
00:53:15.000I've never seen a sexual, I mean, I don't, well, let me make sure I'm not, I don't think I've ever, I've never been in that situation, so it's really difficult.
00:53:39.000It's not a perfect argument, but the police are slow to respond.
00:53:42.000This happened in Philadelphia where people can't defend themselves.
00:53:45.000If a woman was able to have a gun and be able to defend herself, these larger sexual assault crimes, these larger rapes, wouldn't be happening as much as they are happening, mainly because a lot of women are left defenseless.
00:53:56.000And the one way to have this equalizer is to allow people to be able to defend themselves, which is illegal in places like Pennsylvania, which is absolutely crazy.
00:54:05.000Again, there's been so many instances of police officers watching people getting stabbed, getting hurt, and just not doing anything, not responding.
00:54:13.000I just want to add too, in terms of the chat and the super chats, the debate, the people who disagree with you, but other people who are making other points, I'm really digging this.
00:54:25.000Everybody who's commenting saying, you're wrong, I disagree.
00:54:28.000Everybody who's commenting saying, I can't believe people wouldn't help her.
00:54:31.000Everybody who's saying, how could you if the machine is gonna come against you and this is what they're voting on.
00:54:37.000I think the discussion absolutely is just fantastic, so shout out to the chat.
00:54:41.000But it's good that we're having these conversations.
00:54:43.000Talking about it is better than, and also one of the things that I love is when you think through these situations before you're actually in one.
00:54:50.000Because these are all things that could happen.
00:55:12.000And I encourage... No, we're not going to talk about all that.
00:55:16.000More personal liberty and more ability for human beings to be able to defend themselves equally against criminals who will always have firearms and weapons.
00:56:09.000But think about... I was thinking about this in terms of guns.
00:56:12.000If this woman on the train had a gun, even like a Derringer with like a, you know, .22 in it or something, this guy would have gotten off it real fast and he'd probably survive.
00:56:23.000But there's a reality that one, a woman should be able to protect herself if a man is trying to take her.
00:56:31.000I believe she should be allowed to use whatever force necessary to protect herself from that man.
00:56:38.000Now the left's argument, you see it all the time.
00:56:41.000There was like, I can't remember the story, but there's been a bunch of them where a guy was like breaking into someone's house and he got shot and killed and they go, you didn't have to kill him!
00:56:49.000You know, you could have let him victimize you!
00:56:52.000And then it's just like, why is it incumbent upon the victim to assume they're going to survive the attack instead of using whatever force they can to try and survive the attack?
00:57:00.000So the logic of the left on this tends to be they would rather the rape victim get raped and survive because it means both people live than the woman not get raped but then kill somebody.
00:57:38.000You don't know what level of insanity you're dealing with.
00:57:41.000I don't want to live in a world where it's the victim's fault or responsibility for having been attacked.
00:57:46.000I think if you are being victimized, you have a right to defend yourself with whatever force you have available to you, and I think you have a right to keep and bear arms.
00:57:52.000That means, in this circumstance, that rapist would have died.
00:57:56.000And that, I gotta be honest, I don't like this guy.
00:58:06.000And if the only way to stop him, because women have less muscle mass, less bone density, is to be armed, and that means this guy gets shot, I would rather the woman not be raped, and this guy gets stopped.
00:58:16.000But it is horrifying to be like, there's an end result where someone gets hurt.
00:58:21.000Don't attack people, because it is your fault.
00:58:24.000My view is, if you're a rapist who attacks a woman, And then you get shot, you should be criminally responsible for that bullet to yourself, because you initiated the aggression.
00:58:34.000And with how incompetent police officers are, or lazy when it comes to prosecuting and actually getting actual justice here, that's going to be maybe one of the sure ways to actually get some kind of redemption here.
00:58:47.000If you are committing a crime, And then someone dies in the process of that crime.
00:59:11.000Probably a better way to describe it is, if you're in the act of committing a crime and a bystander has a heart attack and dies, they will charge you in many states.
00:59:19.000My view of this, If you are a, so I don't care who the person is, if you are a criminal and you're attacking a woman or anybody, and then you get shot, you should get charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, even though someone else shot you.
00:59:37.000Maybe that's a little aggressive, but I don't know if the law has actually stopped the crimes.
00:59:42.000I actually just kind of feel like if these cities allowed people to keep in bare arms, I actually, I think Philadelphia is not good, Pennsylvania tends to be, Ain't nobody's going to attack a woman if they know she's strapped.
00:59:53.000But they're promoting lawlessness with this.
00:59:54.000It would be nice to not have to be strapped.
01:00:35.000It's a video game where you build a city-state, buildings, factories, apartments, housing, etc., and you set policies.
01:00:42.000More taxes, lower taxes, more authoritarian, with police, less.
01:00:46.000And so this guy, I think you guys already know who he is because it's such a good video, he's like, I'm gonna get rid of all government, no taxes, just let everything go crazy, it's gonna be a crime-ridden hellhole, So eventually he's like, wait, what's happening?
01:01:16.000And even when it was practiced somewhat, like in Singapore or in Hong Kong, especially with the larger financial ramifications of a laissez-faire kind of government, we had that.
01:01:27.000We had so much people progressing and getting wealthy and getting rich and helping each other, and so much less poverty.
01:01:33.000Whenever the government doesn't intervene, and when they do, they're just acting like thugs.
01:01:37.000They're just acting like gangsters, getting a cut of their money, screwing everyone else over.
01:01:41.000And this is why I think the biggest enemy towards humanity is big government, and we should always try to be pushing against it as much as we can.
01:01:47.000Do you think that's still possible with the population we have now, who is so subservient?
01:01:51.000There's going to be a messy period where there's going to be a lot of people winning Darwin Awards, but maybe they deserve to win Darwin Awards, right?
01:02:02.000Would you rather have people win Darwin Awards or would you rather have the federal government use your tax dollars in order to send small children to private islands so people could go there and do something else?
01:02:23.000In my personal opinion, what I'm describing.
01:02:25.000I just want to stress this again, like, the people who are chatting, super chatting, arguing, and very defensive of Tate, the people who are, there's less, critical of them.
01:02:35.000I just gotta say, like, I feel like this discussion is one of the best discussions we've had on a variety of issues, to be completely honest.
01:02:41.000Like, Again, agreed with all of the people who are disagreeing and arguing in defense of or against.
01:02:52.000This is the thing that people don't realize about me.
01:02:55.000Regardless if it's good or bad or if people are talking trash on me or talking about my story or whatever, I'm just happy we are having these conversations.
01:03:04.000We used to live in a time where a survivor, if they wanted to release a statement, would have to wait for the corporate press to care and then green light it for it to maybe be in the back of the New York Times.
01:03:15.000Now, I'm a survivor of human trafficking who serves survivors, came up here on independent media, Told you folks and now it's out to many people and we can all talk about it, but we're still talking about, you know, human trafficking, domestic violence, sex abuse, child abuse, child sexual abuse material.
01:03:33.000We are talking about these things and let me tell you, it makes predators big mad.
01:03:37.000Predators down bad and abusers down bad and that's the way it should be.
01:03:42.000You know, I think that before I was searching for this answer like well, where are the men?
01:03:46.000Well, maybe it's you gentlemen here giving me the platform to have the conversation so that we can keep the conversation going and other survivors don't feel alone.
01:03:55.000Maybe that is what men are doing and maybe I wasn't seeing the full vision.
01:04:00.000Well, men should also be protecting women in public as well.
01:04:02.000That's obviously not happening, but these train stories.
01:04:05.000But this too, the conversations are important.
01:04:54.000That proves that we're in dystopian world.
01:04:56.000I am looking right now at, I can't even show it, but you guys mostly know.
01:05:01.000And this is the crazy thing because people need to see.
01:05:03.000They need to see this book was being given to kids.
01:05:06.000And so this whole thing, this book, not only do I believe its intent is to groom children by exposing, look, they say it's 18 plus on Amazon, but they are giving it to grade schools.
01:05:50.000But for some reason now, I mean, I know many people can just assume the reason, the narrative is that one side is extremely awful and bad no matter what.
01:06:01.000And so what you end up with is men who don't want to be masculine.
01:06:34.000But good, innocent, law-abiding people can't have guns.
01:06:37.000In terms of radical gender theory, it results in good, humbly masculine men being unable to stand up for what they believe in, to protect women and children, and even other men.
01:06:48.000And it results in the most toxic and evil men exploiting and taking advantage of women with no hindrance.
01:06:57.000I think I've heard Luke say this before, and I agree with him when he says, like, we're more in, like, a cultural revolution in terms of, like, Mao in the 60s with China.
01:07:04.000And when I see this stuff, what they're doing to children, I see it as, like, a way for them to destroy the future.
01:07:10.000Like, Mao destroyed the past and a lot of Chinese culture, language, art, statues, stuff like that, to then recreate the future.
01:07:17.000And then by destroying the innocence of children, they are literally destroying the humans of the future.
01:07:24.000And that's so scary to me, because I'm watching kids, young kids, who are inheriting nihilism from their parents who refuse to stand up to do anything against the bad stuff.
01:07:32.000And it's just like, well, you're screwed.
01:08:59.000And in my own religion that I'm working on, but like, I think what we can agree on is we see a hope in people, whereas the negative nihilists want to destroy people and themselves.
01:09:09.000And that's where the anti-human, anti-future comes in.
01:09:12.000And I think the positive nihilists, as more rare as it might be, I'd imagine, like my view of the world is, I wouldn't call it absolute nihilism.
01:09:23.000I would say I do see a lot of things as being meaningless, but I do think there is meaning to us, why we are here, why humans exist.
01:09:31.000And so I would find myself more in agreement with a staunch conservative.
01:09:36.000A Christian or religious person who genuinely believes in larger purpose and something bigger than themselves.
01:09:44.000That's why I say I believe in God, but I'm not like religiously theistic or anything.
01:09:48.000If you are someone who believes there's no meaning, but that if that's the case, we should be the best people we can be because we made the meaning.
01:09:56.000Like if you don't think there's a God or morality and you think nothing matters, And then you decide from that, I want to make sure everybody lives the best they can because it's up to us to decide.
01:10:07.000I think that kind of person is going to be more aligned with people of faith and religion who are of a similar... Not saying every religious person is a good person.
01:10:51.000Like I've told this story, you know, at Occupy Wall Street there was this prominent writer and we had a converse, like they were nasty to me and they were smack talking and then when we talked in private is this woman and she was very much just like, oh I don't care about anything, I'm a nihilist, it's just fun.
01:11:05.000And I was like, well look, I agree with you that for a lot of people, you look through life, you look at everything and you ask yourself, to what end?
01:12:32.000You know, maybe the Large Hadron Collider is a way to burn down a type of simulation.
01:12:36.000It'd be funny if the Large Hadron Collider is like, there's a bunch of global elites who genuinely believe we're in a simulation and they're trying to like, manipulate code.
01:12:45.000They're trying to like, like, I mean, that may be a way to view it.
01:13:00.000And how much of that is in their minds and how much is like, is that really beyond the veil or whatever?
01:13:06.000Do you think there's a layer to a lot of this, a bigger kind of abuse stuff when it comes to the spiritual war that's happening out there?
01:13:13.000Because We know there's people like Brina Brovomitch that do spirit cooking.
01:13:17.000We know that there's a lot of rituals.
01:13:19.000We know that there's a lot of also individuals that believe in kind of a satanic order.
01:13:23.000Have you seen anything like this from your line of work or have anything to kind of add to that?
01:13:31.000I have not, so I don't really, just by happenstance, it's not that I don't, haven't tried or actively tried or not tried.
01:13:38.000I know individuals who have experienced abuse with some of that, but I haven't served any survivors specifically that have faced that type of abuse.
01:13:49.000The survivor that actually had the organization that saved my life, Eve's Angels, kind of delves into some of that.
01:13:55.000There's some survivors that I know, like Rose McGowan kind of comes from a darker childhood.
01:14:52.000This is why individuals like, you know, Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Gates were connected together because they believed that there was too many people on this earth and that they were all both eugenicists.
01:15:02.000They all believed in, of course, having A class of individuals.
01:15:07.000Epstein was doing a lot of human experimentation and a lot of scientific projects, especially when it came to him cloning a large portion of the earth.
01:15:17.000Yes, he had one of his scientific experiments that we actually know about, was that he was trying to get as many women as he could so he could impregnate them at the same time in order to spread his genes everywhere.
01:15:29.000So that's literally what these people are up to.
01:15:32.000That's literally some of the thinking that goes into it.
01:15:34.000Some people say it's because they just have too much money, too much power, too much control and they just do things in order to get some kind of feeling and effect from it because everything is meaningless to them.
01:15:43.000Or some people say that they've been overcome and taken over by larger spiritual demonic forces that they're acting on behets of and they've been kind of hijacked by them and they're kind of doing their bidding.
01:15:53.000Whatever you may believe on this particular topic, I think there's a reason that they do have a lot of these kind of ceremonies, a lot of these kind of larger actions, a lot of the times bragging about a lot of the stuff they do in plain sight.
01:16:08.000I think there's, you know, I could go further down the rabbit hole, but I don't want to do that on this show.
01:16:13.000But it gets, the rabbit hole gets a lot deeper than it goes here.
01:16:16.000There's a few things that Brought me back to believing in God years ago.
01:16:21.000But one of those things was when the Epstein news broke, I was like, this is the most evil thing that I could imagine, like in my time with the kids and stuff.
01:16:31.000That if there's something that evil, there must be a counter, a good, you know, a balance to that.
01:16:37.000I see, you know, in the seasons alone.
01:16:39.000So that was like a big moment for me when I remember it was like a beautiful day too.
01:16:43.000And I was just like, It was so it became so dark when I really went down that rabbit hole and investigating that story So I think for a lot of people I think it really I think that story broke a lot of people and I think that's why we sort of saw And I understand why I mean, it's devastating.
01:17:01.000It's horrific on a scale unimaginable But I think that's that sort of breaking of the mind is sort of why a lot of folks Went down a role of following I don't want to get you in trouble.
01:18:02.000The thousands of survivors of the UN globally, at the hands of the UN, you know, child exploitation, sexual exploitation, and we fund them 22%.
01:18:46.000But you look at Stalin, you look at the communists, you know, I wonder if it's powerful sociopaths' rise to power and just, like, I shouldn't say sociopaths, people of no empathy in general.
01:18:59.000People who just don't care about you, who view themselves as God, rise to power, and then cause mass harm?
01:19:05.000Or is it just that when the machine of humans collectivizes and becomes too big, they just have tremendous power that causes harm in various ways?
01:19:22.000They would take someone and stick their arm through a hole into sub-zero weather, so their arm would freeze while they were still alive inside, then they would pull their frozen arm in and shatter it with a hammer.
01:19:33.000Yes, I believe vivisection is something else that they would open up someone, watch the organs work, and then make them eat themselves.
01:19:40.000But what I was gonna say is, There are people in there who are probably just part of the system who get chewed up on both sides, obviously.
01:19:45.000But then there are people in charge, like I forget his name, but he ended up becoming like a giant CEO of a big pharmaceutical company.
01:19:53.000I forget what it was at this point, but it became a huge one in Japan.
01:19:56.000So I think there's a mixture of greed with those people, the power, and then they just have a lot of people that they can control.
01:21:55.000He's gone above and beyond to support me and to implement new suggestions.
01:22:01.000I don't know what this new hit piece is about, but I can just assume it's in the least favorable Light and I don't remember them doing such deep investigative journalism while I was out here screaming.
01:22:13.000Oh exactly two years Two plus years actually but it was really learning about the story of John no one in John Doe to that Sort of set me on that crusade and I'm so grateful to Elon Musk for even listening to me And starting to implement some changes.
01:22:43.000Supreme Court could decide on Friday whether or not to hear a long-shot lawsuit that alleges members of Congress broke their oath of office by certifying the 2020 presidential election.
01:22:54.000Now, I'm sorry if this comes off as dismissive, But long shot is an understatement.
01:23:01.000Not because, I'm not making an argument on the merits.
01:23:03.000I always think that merits should be heard out.
01:23:06.000And sometimes that means summary dismissal, sometimes it means discovery, sometimes it means summary judgment, whatever.
01:23:13.000But the idea that, what are we looking at?
01:23:16.000The idea that 387 members of Congress, the President and Vice President, would be removed by the Supreme Court is just So far-fetched, I do not believe there is a reality in which that could happen.
01:23:34.000Okay, obviously, if there's infinite realities, it happens infinite number of times, but I'm just like, as much as it, I mean, I wish.
01:23:43.000How amazing would it be if, like, come Monday, the Supreme Court's like, we're gonna hear the lawsuit, and then they bang the gavel, and they're like, you're right, Congress dismissed, President gone, and then we have no Congress, and we have no executive branch.
01:23:59.000The last five years have proven to me that literally anything's possible.
01:24:03.000But this does seem like an evolution of a lot of the Q stuff, where people I had friends, I would go over their house and be like, all these people have died.
01:24:58.000Approval for Congress is so low that if they held a convention of states and a referendum on just removing and restarting Congress, I bet it would pass.
01:25:09.000I'm seeing a lot of people cheer the last few days, which is exciting in terms of not voting on a speaker, right?
01:25:15.000I see people I'm friends with who disagree with me on certain things politically, but we can all enjoy that because it's just stalling a place that I think seeks to harm us anyway.
01:25:25.000Well, at 10 o'clock, they are going to reconvene in the House, and then Kevin McCarthy's claiming he's gonna win, so we'll see.
01:25:41.000But regardless of what you think about this case, I think it's fair to say that there is something deeply wrong with this country.
01:25:48.000And that we all recognize it, whether the left recognizes it or the right does.
01:25:53.000The establishment There is something deeply wrong.
01:25:56.000And what that solution is, you'd think would be a rages of grievances through a lawsuit, but it seems like none of these things ever have an impact.
01:26:04.000And the argument from the machine is always, they're meritless.
01:26:10.000You know, as you wrote about with the Carrie Lake stuff, the judge ruled against Carrie Lake, she's appealing, but there was evidence presented that needs to be accounted for.
01:26:20.000That is to say, why were the tabulators rejecting ballots?
01:26:23.000Because they were 19-inch images on 20-inch paper, so they couldn't go through.
01:26:27.000That creates a problem, and you can't just be like, oh, don't worry, they dropped it in a ballot box and it got counted later, and it's like, okay, so let's have a conversation about how at, what was it, 72 locations, someone changed the images on these printers.
01:26:40.000That they just started talking about on the second day of trial.
01:26:56.000Even the courtroom couldn't run things technically, like proficiently.
01:26:59.000It's like if a small closed system like a courtroom couldn't even get like HDMI cables right.
01:27:04.000What makes you think all these elections are going on safely?
01:27:06.000Wait, you guys still have faith in government?
01:27:09.000You think they're gonna do something good for you?
01:27:14.000It's like I'm trying to, I know I don't have faith in the government, but it's like I'm trying to keep faith in people.
01:27:18.000But I'm having, I'm losing faith in people because I even think if we remove the government, like I was saying to you about moving on to an anarchist, I know No, but how?
01:27:26.000Because I'm surrounded by people who truly worship the establishment.
01:27:31.000The argument I would make is because psychopaths usually flee to the biggest positions of power, this is why government is a vector for them and we should always push back against them.
01:27:41.000Sorry, I thought you were raising your hand trying to say something.
01:27:49.000But but yeah, the other thing about that trial that was upsetting is like, I was also kind of having flashbacks to the summer of the riots.
01:27:56.000Because even if you have evidence, even if they show it in court, A whole country could look at it together and half of them could just not believe the evidence.
01:28:05.000Even if it's a video showing these things not working, people would be like, nah, don't believe it.
01:28:09.000And it's like, the problem isn't about the evidence, it's not about the system really, because now it's really about just how we view ourselves and the world.
01:28:18.000And that's where my pessimist nihilism is starting to creep in, because we're not in a good place there.
01:29:49.000Is that a legitimate choice on her part?
01:29:53.000It just depends on the entire breakdown of it.
01:29:57.000And by the way, everyone's going to have an opinion on this, and many people won't agree with me.
01:30:03.000I believe that an individual can be a willing adult entertainer, but that would have to come from inside the individual that wants to be a willing adult entertainer.
01:30:12.000Um, as far as someone asking, like, if you said to me, hey, Eliza, I, um, need an extra host on the show.
01:30:22.000I could then choose, but I, if, even if I didn't ask you to be a host on the show, then I would still be choosing to be a host on the show.
01:31:36.000And if an individual at any time expresses that they're not comfortable, they should be allowed to go or allowed to stop without... I'm going back to the original question, just to be clear.
01:31:48.000But as far as coercion goes, it would depend, and some folks identify, so do I think someone can willingly do that work?
01:32:00.000And that would be up to the individual doing it, and in the case of a survivor stepping forward or victim stepping forward, we would let the court decide if it was coerced.
01:32:11.000Was that person able to leave at any time?
01:32:14.000So would it be coercion if I said, Shane, move from California to West Virginia, where you will have this job hosting this show, and don't worry, we'll make sure you have a place to live, and if Shane was like, man, it's gonna be really hard for me to move, don't worry, man, we'll take care of you.
01:32:34.000Then he gets here and I say, I want you to take the garbage out now, otherwise I'm firing you.
01:32:52.000If you go to a person who lives in Canada and say, move to the United States, you'll be on a work visa, we'll pay you X amount of dollars, we'll give you a place to live, and you will do job A. Yes.
01:33:02.000Then they arrive, and you say, you know what?
01:33:04.000We also want you to take the garbage out from now on.
01:33:06.000And they say, hey man, I didn't agree to do the garbage.
01:33:08.000Well, if you don't do it, I'm firing you.
01:33:10.000You can't, but if you fire me, how am I going to get back to my home country?
01:34:09.000Well, that would also possibly fall under sexual harassment.
01:34:12.000That would be a couple different crimes, but I'm not gonna... Well, this is the point I was making to the left.
01:34:18.000When they come out and say sex work is work, they are basically saying that whether you are performing a sex act or taking out the garbage, you're doing work.
01:34:26.000And then that's why I asked that question.
01:35:17.000The switch up happens pretty quickly too.
01:35:19.000In the blink of an eye, and especially when you're scared, it's hard to just walk away.
01:35:23.000It's interesting that that view is more conservative.
01:35:28.000The leftist progressive view tends to be that sex work is just work, and who cares?
01:35:33.000Unless and until you advocate for that to be applied to the labor market, and then all of a sudden the 50-year-old fat slob has the right to incorporate in his smoothie-making position sexual gratification.
01:35:47.000That was kind of my point, like, if you think it is just work, and I don't, then why couldn't an employer say, job description for store clerk?
01:35:54.000Ringing up the cheeseburgers, handing out the bags, and giving blowjobs.
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01:36:05.000My statement's probably the most savage thing you'll read this year, directed at the right.
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01:37:06.000I am totally fine with women having jobs.
01:37:08.000I'm totally fine with men being stay-home dads.
01:37:11.000But I think that it's like, we don't want the absolutes.
01:37:14.000We don't want a complete inversion where men stop working and become effeminate and women become overly masculine because that destabilizes.
01:37:22.000So not as rigid as things were a hundred years ago, but we still do want to recognize, in my opinion, the differences between males and females, masculinity and femininity.
01:38:55.000And look, the circumstantial evidence, along with the hard evidence when it comes to Epstein, when it comes to the outright admissions of some of the people associated with him, is very, very different from it's been three weeks and Andrew Tate just got arrested.
01:39:11.000We'll see if the energy stays the same.
01:39:13.000Yeah, I mean, I've outright said there's videos of Andrew Tate saying he had women working for him just because they loved him, then he had women working for him because they wanted money, and then she threw up in his apartment, he said, I'm not gonna pay you, so she goes to the cops claiming he hit her.
01:39:26.000Like, there's a lot to the things he said if you've seen these videos.
01:39:29.000And the way the left has described it is, there's like an hour's worth of him admitting to committing crimes.
01:39:36.000And it's like, yeah, there's an hour's worth of him admitting to being kind of like a dick in a lot of ways.
01:40:08.000AceBlackstar says, unlike Epstein, Andrew doesn't have his fingers in the government of many countries to cover up for Epstein, so I will not believe or even support you until he's proven guilty.
01:41:24.000I've also been smeared by the media in the last month.
01:41:27.000They hate me, the left doesn't like I'm just explaining some of the thinking of what's going on.
01:41:31.000And I understand that's why I'm here as a peaceful, maybe middle person to be like, hey, folks, I'm from your, I don't want to say side, but you folks rock with me, you know, I'm the real deal.
01:41:42.000So if I'm saying, let's take a deeper look, hopefully that carries a little bit more weight with people that might have normally been a little bit more skeptical.
01:41:52.000The general idea, I think, Luke, it's a real good example, the pizza box story.
01:42:06.000Reese Mendocino says, I'm in no way with Andrew Tate, but we need to recognize that most of the boys who flock to him are a result of boys and men who are hurting from a collapsing culture and awful dating market.
01:43:24.000If folks want to put in due process into my Twitter search bar, I say, I believe the survivors that I serve, and I explain to every survivor that I serve, due process.
01:43:33.000You can't just believe every single story.
01:43:35.000So I understand folks being skeptical.
01:43:48.000If I saw a guy jumping on a woman, I would, I'd jump on him.
01:43:52.000Like, if he was standing up, I would run up and dropkick.
01:43:54.000And I, like, I can't, I don't know, man.
01:43:57.000I've had a lot of people Everybody seems to be of this mindset that everyone else is gonna be like them, and so they'll say things like, you wouldn't do that, you wouldn't do that, don't project your views onto me.
01:44:11.000There's a video, I went on Tucker because of this, because Antifa got in my face and started swinging at me, and I clenched my teeth tight in my abs and I leaned forward.
01:44:29.000You get screwed with enough in places like the south side of Chicago or traveling around the world where, trust me when I say, I would drop kick the guy.
01:46:00.000Basically the machine is just like, imagine this giant factory where it- Hollywood and big tech in there too.
01:46:05.000Controls production, it controls what you're allowed to say, it's where all the establishment people are, it's robotic, it's duplicitous, it's unempathetic.
01:47:18.000I think one of the problems is society, it's created this very hard imbalance in the relationship between men and women, and I feel like a lot of it's on purpose, Malthusianism or whatever.
01:47:30.000This idea that You know what, I'll put it this way.
01:47:34.000Abortion, child castration, you know, hormones in the water, all of these things result in lower population.
01:47:45.000I think it's just very interesting that there's powerful, prominent elites that are going around saying we gotta reduce population, and then all of these ails of society which are doing just that.
01:51:34.000Gerard Butler, he's at home when some burglars break into his house, crack him over the head, rape his wife, kill, I think they kill his wife and daughter, and then he lives.
01:51:47.000And then, let's just say he gets revenge on everyone.
01:51:51.000Unfortunately, they spiked the ending.
01:51:56.000I'll spoil the movie because it's old, but apparently the ending was supposed to be like, So years later, he tracks down the guy and he vivisects him and films it and slowly, slowly ends this man.
01:52:09.000He intentionally gets arrested because he planned this whole thing and then he murders his cellmate to get put into the special cell that he already tunneled through so he can freely move about committing crimes and going after the prosecutors, going after the system that refused to get justice.
01:52:24.000They cut a deal with these guys and then he gets mad.
01:52:27.000And apparently the ending was supposed to be him destroying the city and getting revenge, but the other guy, what was his name?
01:52:35.000Jamie Foxx, I guess, didn't want- that's a bad ending, it's a bad guy winning, so he ultimately loses in the end and it's not as satisfying.
01:52:41.000Because there's something just very Punisher-esque about him being like, my family was killed and the system let these guys go free.
01:53:06.000So how do we listen to some folks that maybe aren't, I don't know, credible, but, and then like, you can't, Discredit all survivors just because or individuals that step forward are accusers.
01:53:21.000You can't discredit everyone because of a few bad experiences.
01:53:25.000I mean, we've been saying the same raggedy... There's no discredit.
01:53:40.000If you folks were advocates, you would also believe the survivors you serve.
01:53:44.000Do you go into any of these situations with skepticism first?
01:53:47.000Do you have to say no to certain people when they come to you?
01:53:50.000I don't have room to be everyone's advocate, especially everyone that asks.
01:53:56.000There are some cases that I'm probably better suited to serve.
01:54:01.000For instance, this case, because I understand now what it's like to have my life destroyed by the corporate press, by the public, by the bot farm that's attacking.
01:54:57.000It probably depends on the way they're talking trash, because there's trolls who just talk trash, and there's other people who are also... But they troll everything.
01:56:19.000And she goes, I'm so scared because 35 years ago I was told that I have two doors on my house.
01:56:23.000And then it was like, that's because she's Airbnb-ing another portion of her house.
01:56:27.000Like this woman went in front of the country and then you had, what was her name, Swetnick?
01:56:31.000Where she claimed that Brett Kavanaugh was part of gang-rape college parties where they would line up outside the door and with kidnapped women who were drugged.
01:57:16.000I was really embarrassed for him because it wasn't factual.
01:57:19.000I wish he'd done a better job for him.
01:57:21.000Well, here's the thing I would say for you in that regard is, you've come out, talked about your experiences, advocated to help people, and you've not actually targeted another person.
01:57:33.000I think you've actually kept that private.
01:57:35.000Because I'm not legally able to speak about it, that's why.
01:58:15.000And I went to, you know, Refuge for Women in Kentucky.
01:58:20.000You don't go, you know, that was the safe house that I went to, that was where they sent me.
01:58:23.000So why would you come out and say all that?
01:58:26.000And I understand skepticism, that's fine, but what, what, you have to look at incentive.
01:58:30.000What would the incentive be for me to come out and say that I'm a survivor, take no money for any of it, I'm not selling anything, but there's no incentive.
01:59:00.000This is why, when it comes to your story, it's like, oh, the only thing you're doing is getting Twitter to fix the problem, and so there's no conflict.
01:59:08.000When it comes to Andrew Tate, it's people know his show and have seen things they like from him, and then there's people they never heard of accusing him of doing something wrong.
01:59:16.000So when it comes to choosing to believe or not believe, person A, I don't care if it's a man or woman, person A comes to me, person B comes to me, person A says person B does bad thing.
01:59:24.000I say, well, I don't know that, I've not seen it.
01:59:26.000You want me to immediately join in your accusation against person B. Now that's not easy to do.
01:59:32.000What we do for the legal system is we say, we heard you, let's do our preliminary inquiry to see if there's a preponderance of evidence.
01:59:39.000Upon discovery of one, we will then move for an investigation.
01:59:42.000Upon discovery of evidence, we will file for an indictment, and then we'll try to prove to a jury of our peers this person did the things they were accused of doing.
01:59:48.000Sure, no one really said that about Maxwell.
01:59:50.000No one said that about the Epstein co-conspirators.
01:59:52.000I get what you're saying, because I agree with you.
01:59:55.000Like, with the Epstein stuff, we've gotten to the hard evidence over a decade phase, and people demanded accountability, and it went to indictment, and then Epstein died, and then it went to indictment.
02:00:04.000What evidence have you seen in the Epstein case that you felt, in your mind... Photos of Andrew Tate with Ghislaine Maxwell and Virginia Giuffre, and then her saying yes because he did these things.
02:00:30.000My brain was in the process of... I was about to not stop you.
02:00:33.000I was about to be like, let me play this out.
02:00:35.000A picture of Prince Andrew with Virginia Giuffre and Maxwell.
02:00:41.000as well as flight logs with all these people and it's been it's been ten years and there's been look yeah the evidence was overwhelming.
02:00:49.000If you feel like some evidence comes out we'll do another conversation and then we'll chop it up then.
02:00:55.000Witness testimony is evidence but not proof.
02:00:58.000And so, that's why I said if Andrew Tate did these things, he should be held accountable.
02:01:03.000When it comes to Epstein, we're at the point where we wanted a legitimate investigation, but we knew the FBI was covering it up.
02:01:09.000We knew that, what was it, Luke, they had documents, they had folders and binders and video information and things like that, that were labeled, and they never released.
02:02:43.000You can pull up the article of being contacted.
02:02:45.000So I'm just saying, there might be more here that meets the eye, so why don't we chill on the attacked by the... The only people that truly get attacked by the machine are going to be like Julian Assange and Edward Snowden and folks like that that are actually doing the thing.
02:04:14.000It's funny because I thought I would come here and talk about Elon Musk and Twitter the entire time and literally we did not talk about it.
02:04:43.000And then you had the Miami Herald, you had Mike Cernovich, and you had Project Veritas basically do this triple hit, and then all of a sudden it just damn broke.
02:04:52.000So, my concern is, when we've seen things like Blasey Ford, I should say Kavanaugh, and Mattress Girl, and a bunch of other stories, I mean, even Lena Dunham, didn't she accuse the DJ?
02:05:27.000TheRozRodriguez says, as much as I want to agree with, quote, awful guest, I am grateful TimCast brings in people that I don't 100% agree with, or us watching.
02:05:54.000But I think it's a good conversation, whether it's for or against.
02:05:57.000And Tim and I are cool, so everybody knows we're gonna be cool.
02:06:00.000I've wanted to hug him ten times throughout this episode.
02:06:04.000Well, this is what I'm saying, like, we gotta have, like, for the people who disagree and are angry about it, like, we need to have that conversation, you know what I mean?
02:07:11.000Yeah, there's something pushing an incel line.
02:07:14.000I feel like that's not a... I'm not going to accuse you of being an incel or anything, but that's a little bit aggressive, a little bit ridiculous.
02:07:22.000Daniel Domasik says, after what they did to Kavanaugh, I'm skeptical.
02:07:26.000I mean, with Kevin, I was very skeptical.
02:07:34.000With Andrew Tate, he's got video clips of him talking about bringing out women to do cam work, and you're like, okay, well, let's take a look at this.
02:07:54.000Just don't tear down survivors until we can figure out what's going on.
02:08:00.000Maybe that's where I'm not communicating well.
02:08:03.000I'm not asking you to believe me, believe everything everyone says, but can we just not tear down survivors and make it more difficult for other survivors, you know, minors, survivors of Epstein, like just imagine how needed it was to get those people off the street and committing those crimes.
02:08:19.000Let's just not tear down survivors in the process or accusers if we don't like the word survivor Victim let's just not tear them down until we figure out what's going on if our goal is to protect the innocent then we want to approach any accusation with like balance between the individuals involved.
02:08:38.000We don't want to insult the person making the accusation.
02:08:40.000We don't want to insult the person accused.
02:08:56.000Chris says, Tim, I used to ascribe to your views of positive nihilism, but recently I became more fundamentally theistic because now I believe that man is not capable of creating meaning in a substantial way.
02:09:35.000I believe that if someone makes a false accusation of domestic violence, sexual assault, trafficking, anything like that, I do believe that then it falls on the, then it falls on the, yes.
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02:11:35.000And Eliza, grateful for your work and awesome to be here with you.
02:11:46.000And I told Shane, One time I said, I firmly believe that... I had this feeling in my gut.
02:11:51.000I said, I need to ask Shane to take my picture and write an article because I have a feeling his work will end up being Warhol-esque in a way where it's... That's crazy, but thank you.
02:12:11.000You know what I think would be really cool, and I know you're trying to end the show, but I've had this vision a little bit of you coming out to the farm and really seeing what my day-to-day life is like.
02:13:18.000We need you to write more stuff like that, and then we need to figure out how to just get everybody to read it so they can understand why everybody likes it so much.
02:13:48.000It's young, it's fresh, it's artistic, but it's a vibe.
02:13:51.000And I'm not saying that you're intentionally trying to be in conservative ink, but I'm saying Just anything that doesn't fit in one side happens to just be thrown.
02:14:45.000Thank you, Liza, for everything you've been doing, especially in this whole, I don't want to call it like a situation in the world, but I appreciate it as well.