On this week's show, we're joined by Peter Boghossian, founder of the Sokol Squared hoax and author of The Woke Papers, to talk about how he and his co-creator, Helen Pluck Rose, created the first "Woke Papers" and how they changed the way we think about feminism.
00:01:09.000Pentagon leaked documents suggest Russia's actually winning, and surprise, surprise, they're lying to us, unless those leaked documents are actually just propaganda in and unto themselves.
00:01:20.000I wanted to leave with a story that I think was kind of a white pill moment that would be inspiring for all of you, and that's Anheuser-Busch has seen a multi-billion dollar market cap drop off.
00:01:31.000Since the start of this controversy when they hired Dylan Mulvaney, reportedly sales are dropping, rumors are circulating that they're not selling product, videos are popping up all over the internet showing beer sections where the Budweiser and the Bush products are all still there, and other companies are all sold out.
00:01:45.000This could all be propaganda too, but you know what?
00:01:48.000I want to at least believe that we can win if we organize.
00:01:54.000It's entirely possible the naysayers who are acting like this is not a big deal, Are actually the propagandists trying to say stop doing what you're doing.
00:02:01.000When in reality, I look at the hard numbers.
00:02:04.000Since the start of this controversy, their stock is down I think around 5% for a multi-billion dollar market cap drop.
00:02:09.000So we can organize, we can vote with our dollars, and we can win.
00:02:13.000So we got a lot of stuff to talk about.
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00:03:15.000Joining us tonight to talk about all of this and a whole lot more is Peter Boghossian.
00:03:24.000Correct, but Peter's more... Peter's fine?
00:03:26.000So don't listen to anybody because they're a doctor.
00:03:29.000In fact, it probably means if they got their degree recently, it's probably a bad thing.
00:03:32.000It probably is an indication that they're brainwashed.
00:03:35.000But for people who aren't familiar, I mean, aside from a whole bunch of accolades, I think a lot of people might know you from the Sokol Squared hoax, where you, Helen Pluck Rose, and James Lindsay created these, what would you call them, woke?
00:03:49.000Fake papers, woke papers that we played on the moral prejudices of journals and showed that the bodies of literature were corrupt.
00:03:57.000The bodies of literature, by the way, that we're forming public policies upon.
00:04:01.000So, simply put, You, in one instance, took a chapter from Mein Kampf and changed it to feminist talking points.
00:05:07.000The dollar is collapsing, the petrodollar is being replaced, the proxy war is expanding, everything we told you was going to happen is happening, but it's...
00:05:15.000happening on a bigger scale, so things are going to get a lot crazier.
00:05:19.000Since we're in Texas, I decided to wear my Ron Paul, if I told you so, was a person shirt, which you could get on thebestpoliticalshirts.com.
00:05:57.000days before dylan will banish controversial partnership with beer was
00:06:00.000unveiled And I'm gonna humble brag here.
00:06:03.000I called this in my conversation with Vivek Ramaswamy when I said what's likely happening is these millennial women are getting promoted in these companies, they hold these views, then they start adopting these things.
00:06:14.000It is not It is not like some 56-year-old Gen Xer or whatever running the company said, this is what we got to do.
00:06:20.000It is a young millennial person taking these jobs.
00:06:23.000But of course, what everyone really came here for is this tweet from DC Drano.
00:06:27.000He says, on March 31st, Anheuser-Busch had a $132.38 billion market cap.
00:06:34.000As of today, it is now $128.4 billion.
00:07:33.000When they do apologize, I say buy a bunch.
00:07:35.000What market forecasters and everybody needs to see is that when they did this campaign with Dylan Mulvaney, their stock drops, their sales drop, and then as soon as they apologized, it goes right back up.
00:08:23.000Any companies that you've been donating to or working with, check and see if they've been bought lately, because there's been a lot of corporate conglomeration in the last decade.
00:08:30.000Right, like Anheuser-Busch merged with some... InBev, yeah.
00:08:34.000Yeah, so now there's a bunch of other brands.
00:08:53.000What I care about is Dylan Mulvaney represents the algorithmic crisis that is causing teenage depression, that is expanding and creating wokeness, in my view, and then they reward it.
00:09:05.000Not only that, but TikTok, I believe, is likely a Trojan horse.
00:09:10.000You know, the story goes that in China they get more controlled and academic content and in the U.S.
00:09:15.000it's all weird woke stuff and people who think they're frogs, you know, frog, frog self-pronouns and stuff like that.
00:09:20.000Very horrible ideas that are corrupting people's brains and that, Dylan Mulvaney, is a perfect example of what those algorithms do.
00:09:28.000So when Bud Light dumps money into that, promotes it, they're actually making the algorithmic crisis substantially worse.
00:09:35.000So my thing is like, get away from it.
00:09:38.000There's a lot of interesting things at play here because there's also the ESG score.
00:09:42.000There's also fifth generational warfare.
00:09:43.000We could go deep down the rabbit hole when it comes to explaining what's really going on here.
00:09:47.000But on a simple level, I think if we explain what just happened, it was a company trying to sell beer to, quote, what they deemed a younger audience, but mainly a part of just preaching to a woke religion that they were trying to serve here.
00:10:01.000And it's pretty clear that they kind of forgot about their customer base.
00:10:05.000And a lot of people are discussing, hey, what beer should I drink here?
00:10:10.000I think it's also important to note here that even woke people won't be buying Bud Light because it's like you think we're that simple where you could just put some person on there and that's going to make me want to buy your your fluoride filled piss drink?
00:10:26.000Anywhere near me, it's an endocrine disruptor, and I think a lot of people, the discussion that I would love to have here, to have a deeper discussion, maybe instead of replacing your beer, maybe let's stay away from the moob-creating endocrine disruptors that do, of course, have a very negative effect on you, and I think this is a perfect time to start that conversation being like, hey, don't support this bullcrap because it's bad for you.
00:10:54.000What kind of evil person do you have to be to say, we're going to get young kids hooked on beer and alcohol?
00:11:01.000You are a low vibrational, like bad human being when you're such a corporatist where you're like, we got to get all these people hooked on alcohol.
00:11:32.000The problem is abuse, not having some.
00:11:35.000I might have a beer once or twice a year, to be completely honest, depending on the situation, but it's not going to be Bud Light, because Bud Light's just, it's like not really beer.
00:11:43.000There was even a new medical study that came out showing that even moderate drinking has very negative cognitive effects for your brain, and ages your brain, and stops blood flow to your brain.
00:11:59.000You're saying he drinks too much beer?
00:12:02.000That and, of course, all the horrible pesticides and byproducts.
00:12:04.000There's also a lot of glyphosate in, of course, the beer as well.
00:12:07.000It's good to be back to get this off of my chest here.
00:12:09.000I feel awesome to finally be able to explain a lot of this stuff because, you know, at the end of the day here, it is a corporation trying to sell a product, a product that does have a lot of negative consequences for people.
00:12:20.000That should be the discussion here, I think.
00:12:43.000Here's an important thing to consider, too, for this stuff.
00:12:46.000The reason why I really, really am energized, enervated by this story is Bud Light deserves to lose money, not just because we disagree with the ideological position of say, you know, TikTok, Dylan Mulvaney, or whatever.
00:13:01.000Bud Light deserves to lose money because this has to be one of the stupidest business decisions, irrespective of wokeness, in that You've got people from the ages of 21 to on average 79.3 years old.
00:13:23.000And what they've done is said, we've got to get rid of the frat culture and appeal to a younger audience.
00:13:28.000So they're targeting people from the ages of 21 to 25.
00:13:33.000In an effort to sell beer at the expense of 25 to 80.
00:13:37.000And they've got to understand the amount of financial duress people are under that are from the age of 21 to 25.
00:13:43.000Young people, it's a constant theme on this show and others that people don't have money, they don't have direction, the school is too expensive, they're in debt.
00:13:50.000Well, they do have money, but the money's being devalued.
00:16:44.000There is bad press and bad press can harm.
00:16:49.000I think the phrase there's another thing is bad press typically applies to an individual right I think someone like Ben Shapiro has actually greatly benefited from bad press but to be fair there's a double-edged sword that comes along with it in that The bad press for an individual and for a commentator, they become more prominent.
00:17:06.000For someone like Ben Shapiro, or for any of us here, is that the more they talk about you, the more you become the subject and the figure to be talked about.
00:17:15.000If you are Anheuser-Busch, you are on top of the mountain.
00:17:31.000They've got an opportunity when they bring politics into beer, which seems to make no sense in my opinion for the most part, but when they, this opportunity is, can we capture a large portion of one demographic?
00:17:41.000Well, my attitude is how about you don't do any of it and you try and just capture as much of the entirety of people who drink beer by being a neutral beer company.
00:17:48.000As soon as they enter the political fray, they segment off a large portion of their audience.
00:17:53.000If you are a political commentator or a celebrity, you're not going to get a market cap that is the entire population of the planet.
00:18:38.000Yeah, what I think is happening is that these folks, and Alyssa has pronouns in her bio, and she peppers all of her language, and I would encourage people to watch those videos where she's explaining why she did this.
00:18:51.000They're not capable of independent, rational thought.
00:18:56.000They view themselves as white knights who promote the ideology.
00:19:00.000This is a way to promote her moral values.
00:19:03.000And within that, then she convinces herself that, well, it will increase market share, will increase sales, but it's just not true.
00:19:16.000Incredible that she inundated herself like that, but I guess everyone knew who she was on the team anyway
00:19:20.000And the way she says we need this we're looking to do in I think it's the word inclusivity inclusivity
00:19:25.000Yeah, something something something and it and an inclusive something something you're like why she used the word
00:19:29.000inclusivity twice She doesn't know what it means. That's why well that video
00:19:32.000that you mentioned was from March 30th And ever since I haven't seen much kind of any kind of
00:19:37.000words from Bud Light afterwards after this. Oh, that's from okay
00:19:40.000Yeah, so that's from an earlier video where she was explaining what she was doing
00:19:43.000And I want to underscore something Tim said that if you really want to show that you can change and make a difference, it has to be sustainable.
00:19:51.000Like you have to literally continue to not buy the product until they apologize.
00:19:56.000And if you don't do that, then you're actually working against your interests because companies are going to keep doing this.
00:20:02.000I'll be honest, I don't think an apology is enough.
00:20:05.000Issue some crap they don't believe and then try and screw them.
00:20:13.000It means they will, if they issue an apology, that means Anheuser-Busch said, the risk to our business from the far left cult is less than the risk to our business from pissing off these people.
00:21:08.000He's got Bud Light on his arm at a liquor store.
00:21:11.000Now this could be fake, you know, I just want to make sure that's clear, like, hard to verify, just a random video on the internet.
00:21:16.000But this is just one of several videos I've seen of people in similar situations pointing out that the shelves are loaded with Anheuser-Busch products, and this guy says that he works for an affiliate company that only sells Bud and Bud Light products, and he's never seen sales this low, which worries him, because if we don't sell these products, I don't feed my family.
00:21:37.000Like, this is my company, like, that I work for, we gotta do this.
00:21:40.000And he goes, so, uh, thanks, Anheuser-Busch, maybe I won't feed my family.
00:21:45.000I definitely think it's a little hyperbolic, but we've seen a bunch of these videos where people are reporting on the ground that sales are dropping.
00:21:53.000We've seen the stock dropping, and I think it lines up.
00:21:55.000And I think this, the left operates on lies and manipulation.
00:22:28.000If the stocks are dropping, and there's rumors of sale decline, And then I see these videos, I'm more inclined to believe that these and other videos I've seen are probably true.
00:22:38.000There's one video where it's just a guy standing in a supermarket and he just pans left and right, and then you see all the beer's gone, and then he pans over and all the Budweiser products still there.
00:22:48.000Look, we're in Austin, at some point I'll go to a supermarket, why don't we just go to a supermarket and do it ourselves?
00:22:54.000Yeah, because I wonder how pronounced it is in a place like Austin.
00:22:59.000So here's the other thing we're hearing, the guitar player from The Offspring, he countered Kid Rock and he was like, we're going to stock all of our shows with Anheuser-Busch products to counter the bigots.
00:24:41.000They're gonna feel real good, even though there's no real humans behind that number.
00:24:45.000But that will convince their friends to get on the platform as well.
00:24:49.000You know what's terrifying to me about that, by the way?
00:24:51.000What's terrifying to me is I have thought over the last few years that so many things were conspiracy theories that turned out to be not conspiracy theories.
00:25:03.000Well, that's what happens when you're looking at it from the other end of history.
00:25:06.000And now I'm hearing this and I'm thinking, you know, that's completely feasible.
00:25:10.000Yeah, especially with quantum computing on the horizon and artificial intelligence, you could have 100,000 followers that aren't real people that are commenting actual things in response to what you're doing.
00:25:19.000Yeah, the governments have been doing this for a very long time.
00:25:21.000I think the Israeli government was the first one to come out about it publicly, where they described whole entire factories of people that were online digital troll armies that were specifically making sure that they were engaging in debate and conversations that made the Israeli government look good.
00:25:36.000Joe Biden just announced a whole campaign for online influencers that are going to be his influence army for the next 2024 presidential election.
00:25:44.000So obviously they're paying for PR using our tax dollars to have people shill for them who are just saying and doing anything for a buck.
00:26:16.000There's different ways that, of course, they conduct their businesses through PACs and different organizations, so we have to be careful with exactly how we're wording here, but I think it's fair to say that money exchanged hands for the support of this particular candidate, that money coming from, of course, either SuperPACs or our Connections organization.
00:26:40.000He's not really doing as much content as he used to.
00:26:42.000He came out and endorsed Hillary Clinton.
00:26:44.000It is my personal opinion that likely constituted a monetary exchange from someone or somehow.
00:26:50.000Because I don't see how you get a dude who films drones and longboarding and talking about filmmaking, all of a sudden coming out and endorsing a politician in an election.
00:26:59.000But it's entirely possible he's just going along with the crowd and that's why it ended up happening.
00:27:05.000Be connected or not connected, but how much was the CNN deal?
00:27:08.000That's also another one that also has a lot of people looking at the situation like, how much money did he make?
00:27:15.000So there's multiple ways of having people shill, but for the Biden administration to openly kind of discuss how they're going to be taking and giving money to people to shill for them, I mean, that's going to make everyone question like, wait, are you really in support of this person or are you just being paid to support this person?
00:27:34.000When I go out into normal places, you know, if you're in D.C., you're gonna be around a bunch of people who are hyper-political, but when I go out to the movies, when I go to pool halls, when I go to the poker club or whatever, I have not met a single person who is pro-Biden.
00:27:54.000And, you know, of course, if I say something like that, I'm gonna get a bunch of leftists being like, haha, go touch grass, but like, dude, I've not seen it anywhere.
00:28:04.000We've been going to Maryland Live, a casino, playing Hold'em 1-2.
00:28:09.000Super, super inexpensive for those that are considering playing.
00:28:12.000It's like you pay two bucks to play a hand, so it can be played cheaply.
00:28:16.000Out of all the tables I've played at, and this is north of D.C., south of Baltimore, I have not met a single pro-Democrat person in this major urban center where it's just regular people hanging out from various ages, young guys to older guys.
00:29:34.000I mean, look, ballot harvesting may come to save the day, but It's clear that they're going to be ramping up what I would describe as unethical and malicious tactics in the election.
00:29:43.000And the idea of a Democrat... So for those who don't know, the 50 cent army, what is it, in China?
00:29:49.000Anybody who posts on social media pro-CCP propaganda, they get paid 50 cents every time they do or something like that.
00:29:55.000So this is basically what we're going to start seeing with Democrats.
00:29:59.000So we're talking about Anheuser-Busch, we're talking about Dylan Mulvaney and the algorithmic manipulation.
00:30:04.000That is what the Democrats are riding that wave.
00:30:07.000Yeah, the thing you didn't say, which I think needs to be said, which speaks to your point, is what this does to the integrity of the system overall.
00:30:15.000This is what causes a legitimacy crisis, right?
00:30:18.000So, we don't trust our institutions, we now think the people we like on social media, they're being paid certain... I've never taken a single penny for anything, my Twitter feed, anything.
00:30:27.000I think that that compromises the integrity, but when you do that in a political level, it's terrifying to me.
00:30:45.000You can't buy first-class tickets on trains.
00:30:49.000And that's being tested in China, which they're trying to roll out and bring out here in the United States, as there's already a corporate social credit score that no one really likes to talk about.
00:30:57.000It's not a government institution, but the corporate social credit score on everyone here already exists.
00:31:01.000There is an ESG score with the corporations, but there's even another one with each citizen and civilian with all of your private records, especially from social media, being compiled together and then soon going to be used against you later.
00:31:15.000No, there's many different corporations keeping private records, and they sell all these private records about you and your itinerary, and what you do, and what you like, what you dislike, your views, your opinions.
00:31:48.000What does 15-minute, what does 5-minute mean?
00:31:50.000Well, this is the restrictions that they're setting up, pretty much essentially prisons, pretty much essentially lockdowns.
00:31:57.000They did this in China and they tested it during COVID.
00:32:00.000They locked down entire communities because they said they had a positive case.
00:32:03.000But what a lot of people are saying that this was most likely a larger test to see how these 15-minute cities would work, because they would lock down entire neighborhoods and say, You can't move between this street and this street.
00:32:16.000They tested it out in Australia, where people were fined and arrested for going from one city block to another city block because they were going through an imaginary line in jurisdiction.
00:32:25.000So a lot of people say that there was a dry testing of this larger concept, which is essentially prison grids, internal systems where you can't move around anywhere but 15 minutes within it, and you get everything you ever wanted.
00:32:36.000Right, the idea is that within 15 minutes of your home, you can get access to anything you would need.
00:33:59.000And I want to make a point on top of that.
00:34:01.000Could you imagine if you went to your chicken coop one day to collect chickens and a bunch of roosters pulled out guns and pointed them at you and said, you're not taking the eggs this time?
00:34:20.000And you're like, I don't know how they're even using them.
00:34:22.000And then you got to figure out how do you disarm the chickens?
00:34:25.000If they're armed, and they can fight back, you can't take from them, you can't imprison, you can't control them, they're on equal footing with you.
00:34:33.000My point is, if someone is trying to control you, and you have the means of telling them no, they cannot implement their authoritarian, fascist takeovers, and that's what we've seen throughout history when despots and fascists try to take over, guns make it very difficult.
00:34:46.000That was one of the impetuses of the Second Amendment.
00:34:49.000You know, and that's why they're doing this in China.
00:34:52.000They're doing this in the United Kingdom.
00:34:54.000They did this in Australia during COVID.
00:34:55.000Right now in Oxford, specifically in the United Kingdom, they're doing the trial run for the 15-minute cities, blocking people from traveling one road to another, all in the name of sustainability.
00:35:07.000No, I was just going to say, if you look at the World Economic Forum, it's not framed as a conspiracy, it's not framed to manipulate, to control, it's framed to be sustainable.
00:35:21.000It's sustainable to have farm animals, to treat human beings like they have no dignity, no individual human spirit, and they can't live on their own and they need to be dictated.
00:35:28.000What they can and cannot do or believe in or think, and that's essentially this larger notion, this larger elitism of individuals thinking that they have the right.
00:35:36.000And they're doing this in so many instances that are so bastardized, that are so disgusting.
00:35:41.000They think that they have the right to control what goes into your head, to control what you see, what you hear.
00:35:47.000And they're doing this with big tech social media already in so many different ways, trying to engineer people to be perfect lemmings, to be perfect slaves, to acquiesce, to bow down, and to take it.
00:35:57.000And I think people who are paying attention had enough of this bullcrap.
00:36:00.000All right, you guys ready for this one?
00:36:01.000Let's jump to this next story from the Postmillennial.
00:36:15.000The FBI's domestic terrorism reference guide on involuntary celibate violent extremists offer a threat overview for incels that aims to identify them by the slang they use.
00:36:27.000So, uh, you thought Biden's 50 cent army was bad.
00:36:55.000And I think there was individuals even before that, at the very beginning of the FBI, they have a Horrible record, especially with J. Edgar Hoover, especially with what they did to JFK, what they did to MLK, what they did to Malcolm X, what they did with MKUltra.
00:37:09.000If you look at this agency, there needs to be some oversight.
00:37:12.000There needs to be some accountability.
00:37:14.000There was just A new disclosure happening with the Proud Boys trial with January 6th, and people just found out that out of the 13 Proud Boys, eight of them were paid FBI informants.
00:37:38.000And then they're hiding and making sure that they're spying on the defense.
00:37:42.000I mean, what's happening with the January 6 case is just a notion of what's going to be happening to everyone unless we address this and stop it.
00:38:43.000But leftists use LARPing substantially more than people on the right do to claim that the right is live-action role-playing their fantasies.
00:38:52.000This is a big problem that with the FBI is having as they're downstream from social media from the technology and all this data can be spoofed.
00:38:59.000Like if Facebook wants to tell the FBI that you said something you didn't say they can and they can make it look like you did in the software.
00:39:05.000Even the idea that we're living in the United States and then this is an issue at all is insane.
00:39:10.000That is another reason why there's a legitimacy crisis.
00:39:12.000Nobody trusts the institutions anymore.
00:39:14.000It's because it's a global community now.
00:39:16.000Like, we live in the U.S., but this global governance, it's here now.
00:39:19.000We can say, like, it's coming, but it's here now.
00:39:21.000Like, it's the, it is one unigovernment that's trying to alter the shape of the world.
00:39:25.000But the corruption is so in your face, though.
00:39:27.000When you have a moment in time in history where you say, Chad, You're going to be investigated by the FBI, right?
00:39:33.000If you say it online, you say incel, you say red pill, you go to Epstein Island.
00:39:37.000You're on the client list of Mr. Epstein.
00:39:58.000I mean, if You know, if you were on some dude's island and then you were asked to investigate yourself, you wouldn't release the list either.
00:40:28.000When you start building systems like that that are not untrackable but challenging to track, I think you're in a better place where the code's readable.
00:40:34.000But the issue is the FBI, the DOJ, have gone after anybody who makes encrypted communications.
00:40:40.000I feel like they're afraid that there's gonna be some sort of revolt or like revolution in the states.
00:41:17.000We're talking about Russia and their military capabilities in terms of cyber warfare.
00:41:21.000Pretty sure they're going to have more resources than Telegram.
00:41:24.000And they're going to have a capability to either crack Telegram encryption or, simply put, go to the people who run it and then say, here's what you're going to do or else.
00:41:34.000You know, maybe the CEO of some company goes out for his, uh, pick up his newspaper in front of his apartment when a black van pulls up.
00:41:40.000Guys throw a bag over his head, throw him in.
00:42:01.000And then he, I believe he printed out 100 pages of the password in very small font and then gave it to the FBI, legally And they had to manually put in the long password to the encryption.
00:42:14.000And then when they were doing that, I think he deleted the service.
00:42:18.000And then this is why, you know, this is like in China.
00:42:21.000This is almost exactly what's happening in China.
00:42:24.000But here we just have a different face on it.
00:42:25.000And the more we don't understand this reality, the more we kind of hinder ourselves.
00:42:29.000Because when we look at Facebook, when we look at YouTube, when we look at, you know, as we found out from Twitter, we're not looking at private entities and private corporations.
00:42:36.000We're looking at government's hand inside of the business directing not only who gets to say whatever they want to say, but who gets to see it, why they get to see it, who gets promoted, who gets demoted.
00:42:47.000That right there is the power to control people's minds, and that's the power that they're wielding every single day, and people need to realize it more than ever.
00:42:54.000This story that came out a few weeks ago, or like a week and a half ago, that Elon Musk said they were qualifiers coded into the Twitter system that would identify you as a Democrat, a Republican, or a VIP.
00:43:05.000Or Elon Musk, which was funny and weird that he had his own special category of like, this is Elon, he's tweeting.
00:43:11.000But they would label you a Democrat or Republican.
00:43:13.000Like they had that in their system and people were calling that out.
00:43:17.000How much do you want to bet that if you had the Democrat tag, that was okay that you said that thing about those kids?
00:43:23.000When that guy posts the picture of the wood chipper with blood coming out during the Covington kid incident, I wonder if he had one of those tags on it and they're like, he's okay.
00:43:31.000So the thing that's been running through my mind through this conversation is let's say that somebody who doesn't listen to you tunes in, Tim.
00:43:41.000It's so hard to break through to people when you show stories like this or when you talk about scores or when you talk about... because they'll just think you're a conspiracy theory, lab leak conspiracy.
00:43:54.000So how do we, the thing that I've been thinking about for quite a while, is how do we reach these people?
00:44:01.000Or how do we convey this in a way that makes them think, I'll put myself in this case, we are not conspiracy theorists when we talk about this.
00:44:39.000The point is, when I try and talk to people who are, as I describe, uninitiated, I'm not gonna come out right away and start talking about Burisma and Ukraine and all this really crazy stuff.
00:44:48.000I'll take it really, really light and be like, Yeah, that Trump impeachment, wasn't that, that was, um, what was it?
00:44:54.000There's that video of Joe Biden saying that he was threatening to withhold congressionally approved aid, which was illegal or something like that.
00:45:22.000I think different people have different ways of approaching this information, but I think, first of all, the conversation needs to be started.
00:45:30.000The conversation starts with the people who are listening, the people who are taking notes, the people who are studying, because you guys need to be informed more than ever.
00:45:37.000And the game's rigged on social media, the game's rigged here, the game's rigged everywhere online, but it's not in real life.
00:45:45.000This is why, again, I'm not just trying to be a shill here, but I've been a big proponent of t-shirts, I've been a big proponent of people talking to their family members, their friends, and I think that is more imperative than ever of individuals doing their homework, doing their research, and whether it's having a light-hearted kind of approach of empathy, whether it's hitting them over the head with just the bigger truths going down the rabbit hole, who knows what will work, but I think Being brave and being able to have those conversations is the first step that we need to have.
00:46:11.000But the other thing too is, outside of all of that, there's a real simple way to win.
00:46:39.000And don't donate to your alma mater, please.
00:46:41.000Yeah, yeah, uh, Will Chamberlain liked to say, I don't know if he still does, I'm assuming he does, seize the endowments.
00:46:45.000Yep, and that's one of the things that we're doing at my non-profit, National Progress Alliance, do not, it should be the easiest ask in the world, don't donate.
00:46:53.000By the way, just, I personally don't like the hardcore approach, so I'll ask people, I'll say something like, which is true, I don't know if you guys were, I don't want to go down this rabbit hole, but I personally was duped by the Hunter Biden laptop story.
00:47:28.000Oh, or I, and then I'll say, well, which is also true, I didn't really know whether or not it was a lab leak hypothesis, but the lab leak hypothesis is true, but all these people said, people who were in authority, people who were supposed to be trusted,
00:47:42.000I believe them and I was wrong. In other words, I was wrong, maybe they were wrong, I was wrong, but what about this?
00:48:32.000I kind of take that role on this show.
00:48:34.000A lot of times people in the audience think I'm like an idiot, but like I will act as if we are wrong and I will give you Yeah, it's so important to do that, and it's also so unfortunate that you have to.
00:48:45.000It's so unfortunate that woke people will not have conversations with you.
00:48:48.000They will not engage in discussion, dialogue, debate.
00:48:50.000The smart ones understand why they can't.
00:49:50.000There it is, from Tim Urban's Wait But Why blogger, What's Our Problem?
00:49:57.000It's fascinating how it originates in Marxism, goes down the tree to critical theory.
00:50:04.000This is the best book since the 2020 Cynical Theories by Helen Pluckrose and James Lindsay on this topic, in my opinion.
00:50:11.000And you have he talks about social justice fundamentalism at one end and liberal social justice I think you and I I think everybody in this room frankly falls on the side of liberal social justice Not equality of outcome equality of opportunity not using race to divide But being what what is now microaggression colorblind to people we make those judgments I do think that there's a fundamental core tenant or there are fundamental core tenants of the ideology and Racism is everywhere.
00:50:45.000And that is a component of what wokeness is, but it's also just... When I try to envision wokeness as an object, it is like a Jackson Pollock painting.
00:50:56.000But that's because wokeness isn't an ideology.
00:51:00.000These things They frustrate me when I see, and I think this chart is probably correct, you know, going from postmodernism down and critical race theory and intersectionality, but it applies an academic worldview into the modern problem, which has already been shown by numerous data points, including, there was the Zach Roberts, LexisNexis Twitter threat from a few years ago, that all around the same time, everywhere in the world, the same thing happened, where there was a massive spike in the same concepts, ideas, words,
00:51:30.000And what likely happened is, and I'll put it this way, the reason why I don't believe we're dealing with an ideology of the left, we're dealing with algorithmic corruption, is that Jack Dorsey was not woke until he started eating the own refuse of his own social media platform.
00:51:45.000Okay, so can we spend some time on this?
00:51:48.000Because I think this is really important.
00:51:50.000Okay, so this is the frame that I suggest thinking about this.
00:52:24.000What Reid and I are going around the world doing, street epistemology, is to show that it goes from the theory to the institutions, the institutions to the people.
00:52:32.000The institutions, the academies, K through 12, and we can talk about that, more than happy to talk about that, are academic institutions.
00:52:41.000You get promoted and tenure based upon the papers.
00:52:45.000you write usually seven papers in seven years unless you write something that's morally fashionable.
00:52:50.000It's very difficult to get published and we're going to do the University of San Francisco story,
00:52:55.000I hope, because I think that this encapsulates it perfectly.
00:52:58.000Educational administrators themselves participate in the ideology. So there's a
00:53:03.000structure and so when you say algorithms, I want to say two things that are important about this.
00:53:10.000Woke people occupy, so they get their degree five, six, seven years later, they go out, they become administrators, they become managers, etc.
00:53:19.000They bring the madness that they took with them, that they think it's true, based upon what they perceive to be legitimate bodies of literature.
00:53:26.000Microaggressions, trigger warnings, safe spaces, belonging, equity, all this nonsense.
00:53:30.000They take that with them and they institutionalize that.
00:53:33.000We can cover it if you want, but it's a reverse Trojan horse Martin Bailey.
00:53:39.000Now, to get to your point about the algorithms, yes, you are correct, but the algorithms themselves wouldn't even make sense unless you understood that model.
00:53:48.000Like, this doesn't come ex nihilo, like manna from heaven, right?
00:53:59.000One of the first big political trends was probably loose change 9-11, which was certainly not within the confines of this academia, and the Ron Paul revolution, which was absolutely not in the confines of this academia.
00:54:11.000What happens is you see, what I believe it is, that humans have tendencies Uh, rage makes someone more likely to share something than any other emotion, anger.
00:54:22.000And I always shout out CGP's Grey, uh, CGP Grey's video, this video will make you angry.
00:54:27.000And he explains this and he was like, it's really great, he's like, this group is talking about the other group, the other group's talking about this group, they're not actually talking to each other, they're talking about each other.
00:54:35.000And he's like, trust me, I am not talking about your group.
00:54:38.000So what I see here is, yes, the ideologies of the left do exist, and they do have a degree of prominence among the modern left today.
00:54:47.000But there's also, I don't know, how many ideologies exist?
00:55:35.000What year was it Luke 2008 2009 the Ron Paul revolution right around there?
00:55:38.000Yep, you're starting to see the emergence of moral of Moralizing through social media with people listening to Ron Paul's message and it resonating the point where they were going around slapping stickers everywhere Anti-intervention sound currency a lot of really really awesome things that I completely agree with today but eventually These social media platforms started to adopt algorithms that would show you more of what you engaged with.
00:56:03.000People are more likely to share something that makes them angry, and advertisers are less likely to advertise on something that's morally objectionable.
00:56:10.000In modern culture at the time, 2008, we find racism to be objectionable.
00:56:14.000So a big advertiser says, I don't want my product on racist content.
00:56:19.000Okay, so you just smuggled something in there.
00:56:22.000We find it to be objectionable because This is morally fashionable.
00:56:29.000Like, this is what's morally fashionable today.
00:56:54.000Every single thing you've said is true.
00:56:57.000And it's, I don't mean to use a big word but it's the only word to describe, it's covariant.
00:57:02.000Like both of those variables act upon each other at the same time to enforce the dominant moral orthodoxy even more than it was in the first place.
00:57:10.000So what's happening is, this is why I say that the problem is not the ideology.
00:57:14.000The ideology has existed for a long time.
00:57:16.000The ideology is a component of the problem.
00:57:18.000The problem is we are in a feedback loop of algorithms quadrupling upon quadrupling our problem.
00:57:25.000So, the example of this I give is 2008, it starts with the viral Ron Paul revolution, which is a good thing.
00:57:31.000Then you start to see, my favorite example is Mike.com, which started off as a website exploiting this, and they were producing libertarian content.
00:57:39.000However, within that libertarian content was anti-police brutality content, because libertarians didn't like that either.
00:57:45.000There was also Second Amendment audits that were going viral, where people were like, the cops stopped me, and you get these videos of people challenging police officers.
00:57:52.000Then, people start adding in a racial component.
00:57:56.000Because they start putting up videos of police brutality against black people.
00:57:59.000These videos start getting plastered all over Facebook because it makes money.
00:58:05.000At one point, a website that was dedicated to nothing but police brutality videos was the 400th most viewed website in the world.
00:58:15.000I'm not going to say what website that was.
00:58:17.000And they were paying their writers an exorbitant amount of money and all they did was post videos of police brutality.
00:58:22.000This starts fracturing the minds of 10-year-olds in 2010 who are now 23-year-olds who are voting in this election whose entire worldview has been built upon a machine that started with Libertarian So here's what happens.
00:58:38.000When libertarians are sharing anti-police content, and they're getting a lot of views, because people don't like injustice.
00:58:43.000It is the epitome of injustice when a cop violates our rights.
00:58:46.000That's supposed to be upholding the law.
00:58:49.000Then you add in a racial component, and now you have an exponential growth.
00:58:52.000The people who hate racism, and the people who hate police brutality, everyone's seeing it and everyone's sharing it.
00:58:58.000Then, Mike.com shifts its business model and says, this gets more views, let's do more of this instead.
00:59:06.000The company then slowly, rather exponentially, rapidly shifts into a woke social justice company.
00:59:19.000Which then gave rise to social justice and social justice warriors.
00:59:23.000I mean, at first it was feminism, then it was intersectional feminism, then the SJW, then we ended up with the complaints about critical race theory, then people pointed out actually critical gender theories in there too, and now it's woke.
00:59:36.000What we're seeing is a feedback loop of social media algorithms funneling refuse back into the mouths of people in what I would only describe as a human centipede of ideology.
00:59:44.000Just to clarify, would you say that woke is the way that the ideology is funneled?
00:59:51.000Because what what so when people say what does woke even mean okay well when when the average person describes woke they may mean a bunch of different things but the one unifying factor is they're referring to the modern left liberal orthodoxy that was created by social media algorithms and and the example I give is Ukraine War is the easiest way to understand this.
01:00:14.000Why is it that Hasan Piker will be like, here are these things that I believe, trans rights, and then also, I also am for war in Ukraine, and you're like, what do these things have to do with each other, and why is it that this individual has no principles?
01:01:40.000But when you combine that That research chapter with what you just said, not only can you not do it, there's no amount of education that can get over my side bias, you're now talking the algorithm being held hostage to the algorithm.
01:01:57.000And the humans being held hostage by the humans.
01:02:00.000So even if, right, so even if there weren't the case that you're being held hostage by the algorithm, you're still suffering, you know, this my side bias thing, no training, no education, etc.
01:02:10.000You just can't, so what are you going to do?
01:02:11.000So that is, I think, what is often missing in these conversations, what I just like to throw in there.
01:02:19.000We've been talking, you and I have been talking for years, we know this is a problem and I think what people are hungry for now is what are we going to do about it?
01:02:30.000We're going to stop donating to Alma Mater, we're going to stop buying, you know, we're going to vote with our dollars, if you will.
01:02:35.000But I think what would be helpful, I think, to a lot of your viewers is ending every one of these sessions, these conversations, with what are you going to do about it?
01:02:43.000Like, empowering them to do something.
01:02:45.000And so, obviously, that's why I wanted to lead with the Anheuser-Busch story, because it seems like this is particularly effective.
01:02:50.000Let me tell you, I've got these tweets that I love to tweet, where I say something like, Sterilize your children to prevent overpopulation.
01:02:59.000Or I'll say something about leftists will abort their children or sterilize their children.
01:03:05.000And then I had one tweet where I said, and this is a good thing because it stops overpopulation and humans are causing climate change.
01:03:12.000Not one time has any publication ever criticized me or written about those tweets.
01:03:19.000Yet when I say don't buy beer, I get 500 articles saying far-right fascist, outraged, whiny loser, because you can tell what's working.
01:03:30.000They don't want to bring up the fact that they're aborting their kids and sterilizing them, because that's bad for them in the long run.
01:03:37.000If they highlight that, they have to point out the things we're promoting are detrimental and deleterious to our ideology, and then when I say something like, don't buy beer, they're like, quick, we gotta put a stop to that.
01:03:48.000Not only is it affecting our potential sales, because it's sponsored by this company, But there's truth, the fact that if Budweiser sales do drop and they are forced to apologize, that will be a major shift in the culture war.
01:04:02.000The moment a massive multinational corporation says, we are sorry for being woke, woke people will lose their minds, because that means... We're sorry, we made a genuine mistake, we wish we hadn't done it, we'd like to get you back.
01:04:17.000And real quick, Netflix never apologized for Cuties, and they still have Big Mouth.
01:04:24.000But when they started getting rid of some of the woke shows and stuff they had, and they talked about it, they saw subscriber increase.
01:04:31.000So they're probably learning an important lesson, but the apology is everything.
01:04:38.000Antifa uses violence, and the far left uses violence, and in the summer of love they got away with it, because they have law enforcement to a certain degree on their side, either because police are too feckless, or the DAs are bought and paid for.
01:04:50.000So these big companies, as I've long stated, do not fear Dave Rubin, classical liberals showing up with pitchforks.
01:04:57.000They do fear Antifa, who do it and get away with it.
01:05:00.000If Budweiser is willing to make an apology, To all of us for sponsoring Dylan Mulvaney, that means they are saying the threat of physical force from Antifa is not as scary as us actually going out of business.
01:05:12.000Yeah, and I want to add to that, and I want to just say to the people listening to this, one of the things that I've seen over and over again is people are very afraid to piss off the far left.
01:05:23.000My comment to you is, they already hate you.
01:05:26.000They already hate you because you're going to say something or not toe the line perfectly.
01:05:49.000Shout out to Steven Crowder, potentially one of the most fearless guys, who's constantly making jokes and saying F you to all of these extremists for telling them to shut up.
01:05:56.000You said earlier how these things could cause people to lose their minds.
01:06:00.000You were saying this, my side bonus, I actually jokingly said psychedelics, but I think being able to clear your mind helps you see the danger of your side.
01:06:11.000Recording yourself on video, uploading it, and watching yourself say it, and having no choice but to accept that's what you are, you'll see what you did wrong.
01:06:19.000The psychedelics, you've got to do what's legal and what's safe for you, but being able to clear your mind, whether through fasting, I think helps you see the crap on your side.
01:06:27.000Let's jump to this story from TimCast.com.
01:06:30.000Female swimmer assaulted by trans activists while speaking on women's rights.
01:06:35.000Quote, this is proof that women need sex protected spaces.
01:06:49.000She was going to be speaking at an event and a mob of far left extremists chased her into a room and then they pinned her down for about three hours.
01:07:08.000Yeah, and if anybody doesn't know the Brett story, which you should, either watch the Jordan Peterson or the Mike Nena has wonderful coverage of that.
01:07:15.000I actually, a long time ago, produced a miniature documentary at Evergreen with Brett, and so you can search for Brett Weinstein, Evergreen, Tim Cass or something.
01:07:25.000I want you on the show, Brett, if you're listening.
01:07:28.000So what was the latest development here with Riley Gaines?
01:07:31.000So what I wanted to talk about is, is this a story?
01:07:33.000I had no question about it, but this kind of stuff, this isn't extreme, but it happened to Charles Murray, I mean, it happens all the time.
01:07:40.000Which really the story, to me, which really the story is what the university did.
01:07:46.000They said that they were peaceful protests.
01:08:47.000But the police officers here to cower and not do anything here, and the university to back the attackers here. It is a deranged statement and
01:08:56.000anybody who reads that if you ever had any question whatsoever that the academies are ideologically
01:09:03.000captured, read their statement. So the New York Post has some of it. They
01:09:06.000say following the mayhem, Jamila Moore, vice president for student affairs and
01:09:11.000enrollment management, emailed students thanking them for taking part in the event.
01:09:15.000It took tremendous bravery to stand in the challenging space.
01:09:18.000I am proud of the moments where we listened and asked insightful questions.
01:09:21.000I am also proud of the moments when our students demonstrated the value of free speech and the right to protest peacefully.
01:10:19.000So I don't know if you've been following the work by Chris Ruffo at New College in Florida
01:10:25.000So he is working hard to dismantle diversity bureaucracies and speaking of which we are in Austin and One of the things that I'm doing is I'm a founding faculty at the University of Austin and there's be none of this bullshit At the University of Austin I can assure you there's none of this bullshit.
01:11:11.000Yeah, and they have classes this summer where I'll be teaching the forbidden classes, the Kathleen Stock, with gender, Mark Andreessen, Neil Ferguson, Ayan Hirsi Ali.
01:11:28.000But so, you ask a great question, what percentage of universities So I think a question is what percentage of the people believe are caught in the orbit of the ideology?
01:11:38.000We don't really know the answer to that question because they've been so successful at creating a culture of fear that people won't honestly admit if they believe these truly deranged propositions.
01:11:50.000So we don't really know, but we know from whether or not there are offices of diversity, equity, inclusion, which are virtually every university, if not everyone, maybe not Hillsdale, Liberty, the conservative, We know that there are bias response teams at over 150 universities, excuse me, 250 universities where you can, and that's from Julian Melcher in the Wall Street Journal published that a few years ago, it's been updated, where people can, students or anyone can file a report that is lodged with the police if they even, basically for thought crimes.
01:12:23.000So our universities are experiencing ideological capture.
01:12:28.000This has been the base of my disagreement with Tim.
01:12:30.000The base of my disagreement with Tim is that this is the nucleation point.
01:12:33.000This is the point from which it all erupts.
01:12:37.000And what we haven't talked about at all, but I probably should mention
01:12:39.000because it's so important for context, is that I can't, all my publications, et cetera,
01:14:21.000What I'm saying is the universities did not originate this.
01:14:25.000There's elements of the ideology that obviously you can trace back to academia.
01:14:30.000What I'm saying is the universities have these things within them because young people were manipulated, brought it to the universities and demanded it.
01:14:37.000Okay, so if the causal explanation for this is solely algorithmic manipulation, Then how is it, given that you yourself have said there are an awful lot of ideologies, then how is it that it's a, what an utterly remarkable coincidence that it's the ideology taught in universities and it's the same one that the ideology pushes.
01:15:43.000Critical pedagogy started before social media.
01:15:45.000So critical pedagogy was the precursor to that.
01:15:52.000Social media, Elissa, all these people, they are in a sense, they actually are, you know, everybody wants to be a victim, this is, John Heights is a victim culture, it is a victim culture, but they are actually victims.
01:16:02.000They're epistemic victims of a deranged ideology.
01:16:05.000Those people were then placed in seats of power from K through 12 up, they've been getting that, so the kids who came to Yale, they've been indoctrinated with that stuff for years.
01:16:18.000This is what I don't quite understand, how it's an ideology.
01:17:40.000One, what Ronald Reagan said in his famous debate, there you go again.
01:17:45.000You're assuming, and I don't mean that as a slander on you, but you're assuming a kind of rationality that the proponents of the ideology have that they simply do not have.
01:17:57.000I'm saying they quite literally have no rationality, and there is no coherent ideology at all.
01:18:02.000What we're looking at is a sewer of refuse that has been mashed together, and what's happened is, I think regular people who are looking for answers seek experts who are anti-woke, and they find academics who then give them a very academic explanation.
01:18:17.000Okay, so let's talk about a sewer that's been crammed together and force-fed, right?
01:18:27.000Okay, again, I'm not saying you're wrong.
01:18:29.000I'm telling you, in no uncertain terms, the data is utterly overwhelming for this.
01:18:35.000The people force-feeding them are people who have gone through teacher training programs, their colleges of education, their university administrators.
01:18:45.000We released a show a while Bill Asher released a show on my YouTube channel, Why Colleges Are Becoming Cults.
01:18:53.000We know why this is true and the likelihood that two ideologies, that the same ideology could be both promoted in K-12 and academic institutions and be promoted by the algorithm at the same time is virtually zero.
01:19:08.000So, Jack Dorsey, who pushed the free speech, winning the free speech party until 2014.
01:19:12.000Who also lied before Congress and hasn't been subject to perjury yet.
01:19:28.000Now, it's entirely possible that the explosion of data points we see from LexisNexis in every country on the planet at the exact same time could be because a globalist cabal got together, sat around a table and said, Implement Order Wokeness!
01:19:46.000And then they activated the device, which turned every country into a woke, you know, disaster zone.
01:19:52.000Or it could be that the advent of cellular technology put a phone in everyone's pocket, and then we gave everyone access to communication devices, which amplified our social biases.
01:20:48.000You could see the algorithmic code over the last 15 years if you had, like, snapshots of the code on a weekly database to see, like, was the algorithm actually inviting this discourse?
01:20:59.000I spoke at universities after Occupy Wall Street.
01:21:26.000It's worse in traditionally blue places.
01:21:29.000When I was at Occupy Wall Street, wokeness was just starting to permeate.
01:21:34.000into the leftist ideology, and it was confusing to a lot of people.
01:21:38.000When I went and spoke at universities following Occupy Wall Street, all of the professors were classically liberal.
01:21:45.000They were very much in that classically liberal vein, where I am right now, and you probably are.
01:21:51.000And then over the next few years, especially with what we saw with Gamergate, We saw the expansion of wokeness, which came from the internet and from young people into the universities.
01:22:02.000And then what we ended up seeing was a lot of people, you can see the effect with celebrities, you can see the effect with corporations, slowly start adopting what they think is prominent, and I think they do it.
01:22:13.000Okay, I'll give you what you're looking for.
01:22:14.000I'll give you what you're looking for, read the algorithm.
01:22:21.000And I'm claiming that it's K-12, colleges of education, college administrators, infused throughout the curriculum, diversity statements, all of the stuff that seek to both indoctrinate students in an indoctrination mill and perpetuate the ideology.
01:22:40.000Let's say that you had two of those and they're not competing and you're going to fit them in a pie chart.
01:22:45.000What percentage of that pie chart is algorithm and what percentage of it is academic institutions?
01:23:05.000Then our disagreement is far more substantive than I thought.
01:23:08.000Yeah, so the issue is when... I think what's happening is people are seeking answers as to what this ideology is.
01:23:16.000They're seeing specific examples of it.
01:23:19.000They're, uh, many people are looking at the news in a very short-term perspective, and then they're following experts who they believe are academics, uh, I'm sorry, academics who they believe are experts on the subject matter, and who likely are in the specifics of, say, you know, critical race theory and critical theory, but they're not actually looking at the hard data of the social phenomenon that's occurred.
01:23:40.000And the strange thing to me is, as I often try to explain, there's hundreds of thousands of ideologies that existed in universities 20 years ago, and sort of still do, but they're being pushed out.
01:23:49.000Pre-social media, this wokeness did not exist.
01:24:41.000None of these things fit your argument.
01:24:44.000Now, it is true, I think, that universities have become mills of wokeness, but I think within these mills, it makes no sense that there's a rainbow flag next to a Ukraine flag.
01:24:55.000There is no ideology that brings these things together.
01:24:59.000What does, however, is a social media algorithm that says, adhere to orthodoxy.
01:26:09.000The point is Trump Derangement Syndrome exists.
01:26:12.000The left refers to it as Trump Anxiety Disorder.
01:26:16.000Just to be clear for people listening, by Trump Derangement Syndrome you mean?
01:26:21.000When people become irrationally angry at the thought of Donald Trump, The truth-telling around Donald Trump, or anything he does.
01:26:30.000For example, when they said that the terrorist was an austere scholar.
01:26:34.000Anything he does is framed negatively, and any defense of him in any factual stance like, hey, you know Trump, when he threw the fish with Shinzo Abe into the Koi pond, Shinzo Abe actually did it first.
01:26:45.000They say, you're a Trump supporter, they get irrationally angry.
01:26:50.000He says that, Sam Harris believes subverting elections is a good thing because Trump is that bad.
01:26:55.000He said, Sam Harris actually said that if there was legitimate evidence of Hunter Biden sexually abusing children, it would not be as bad as Donald Trump running a fraud university.
01:27:13.000What does is that Sam Harris is beholden to liberal social orthodoxy crafted by algorithms and he doesn't want to break from it.
01:27:20.000I'll tack on part two of the definition of Trump derangement syndrome is that when people are obsessively in love with Donald Trump, it's another form of derangement.
01:27:26.000The cult worship, that kind of thing, blind adherence.
01:27:30.000I agree with you, but people don't use the word to mean that, but it does exist.
01:27:33.000Okay, so there's so much to unpack in this.
01:27:36.000So when people are accused of Trump derangement syndrome, they will give the response that that is a slur that people use who whitewash the fact that Donald Trump, and I'm not saying I'm... I
01:28:35.000I agree that, again, perhaps it's a difference of degree.
01:28:41.000Simply put, these people believe that because social media algorithms fed them false narratives and lies.
01:28:48.000Now, they say that every cell in our body is completely changed within seven years.
01:28:53.000That means someone alive today I'm just making a nonsensical point.
01:29:02.000The point is, a person's entire being, if they've been following corporate news since 2015, is comprised of life that believes all of these psychotic lies about Donald Trump.
01:29:12.000that we have debunked over and over and over again.
01:29:52.000Well in that sense I think it's really important, your point is really important, and I think it's really important when we make mistakes that we've had about things in the past that we kind of fess up to them.
01:30:05.000That's why I fessed up to you about the Hunter Biden laptop and me had fall fat.
01:30:10.000So I did I did buy into a lot of that media narrative that maybe he seems unnaturally close to Russia, something's going on.
01:31:11.000We, you know, we see what's going on with Riley Gaines.
01:31:13.000We see what's going on in Austin with Daniel Perry.
01:31:16.000The lies the media is pushing on this guy, it's incredible.
01:31:19.000So Daniel Perry's got a... Or get off social media altogether, like Lukyanov has been saying, or John Haidt, for kids, young girls, liberal girls, young women, white... Take your kids' phones away.
01:31:29.000Oh no, it's actually, it's interesting, it's not YouTube, it's not, it's strictly social media, it's the problem that Haidt found.
01:31:59.000You know, I thought you guys were saying something interesting about Trump Derangement Syndrome.
01:32:01.000You're saying that it's like an irrational fear of this, and you're saying that it's considered a rational fear.
01:32:06.000Yeah, I'm saying that the people accused of Trump Derangement Syndrome will claim that it's not a syndrome, that it's not irrational, it's rational.
01:33:05.000If you make an argument against it, or if you make an argument, no matter what your
01:33:08.000argument is, there are some people who will say, well, what's your evidence?
01:33:11.000And there are other people who will lose their minds.
01:33:13.000And this is the point I'm making ultimately about the modern left and wokeness, is that climate change, Trump derangement syndrome, and Ukraine, Fauci, none of these things line up with academia.
01:33:25.000But they are deranged on all of these counts, and equally defensible on all of these counts.
01:33:31.000What's the best way to figure out if someone should fear a president?
01:33:36.000I think looking at history and figuring out how you should fear a president, you look at history, you should probably fear all of them, including Donald Trump.
01:33:48.000So you don't think that Trump presented, maybe unique is too strong of a word, you don't think that Trump presented an especially dangerous threat to our democracy?
01:34:15.000My view of Trump is that he was more like a bull in a china shop, and that the ivory tower has been constructed over the past hundred years, probably since just before 1913.
01:34:45.000Okay, so so this is really I want to say something so every time I've asked you a question You've given me an answer and I know that that must sound like well, of course I've given you an answer because you've asked me a question that I consider it reasonable Maybe if I asked you about question about your sex life, you wouldn't answer the question, but maybe he would or maybe he would I know I wouldn't ask him so I wouldn't ask him so it doesn't make a difference, but there is something also I think it's an element of that Trump derangement syndrome that you mentioned.
01:35:13.000There's a kind of excitability or a kind of anger in that or a kind of like when you ask someone a question, they get upset that you asked them the question.
01:37:10.000More than anything right now, we need that apology.
01:37:12.000We need to say to every single person who is blindly following social orthodoxy, you're on the wrong side of history.
01:37:19.000Because that's what they say, because that's what they fear.
01:37:21.000Okay, that's, by the way, as I've told Rita a thousand times, that's the, I've lost five friends now because of my stances on things.
01:37:29.000And four of those five people, all for woke reasons, four of those five people have said to me the same thing, you're on the wrong side of history.
01:37:39.000And that's the only thing they have that attaches them to any of these arguments they might make, or any of these flag icons they'll put in their profiles, or in their windows, is that they fear being on the wrong side of history for one reason.
01:37:54.000Being shunned from the majority means death.
01:37:56.000Figuratively, but in the past, for humans, literally.
01:38:00.000If Anheuser-Busch apologizes, we get the high ground and we say, you're on the wrong side of history on this one, then they get scared.
01:38:07.000And they'll start to ask themselves, uh-oh, are we going to lose this one?
01:38:28.000I've mentioned to my friends years ago, why don't you write down, so like three years ago, why don't you write down the beliefs that you have now that are new, that you've acquired in the last year or two, and why don't we revisit those in five years and see where we are?
01:38:41.000Hence the wrong side of history, people.
01:39:10.000Wokeness offers that very, very easily.
01:39:12.000The signaling, the pronouns in the bio, etc.
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01:41:37.000Grant says, the real victory of the Budweiser boycott is making Bud Light the drink of the left and forcing them to buy and drink lots of Bud Light.
01:42:48.000He is defending the government on the Twitter files, arguing semantics, saying the government simply pointed out to Twitter that people were breaking their rules.
01:43:02.000He's been in the news pretty heavily the last week.
01:43:05.000Can I just talk about that just for a quick second?
01:43:07.000It's taken me a lot of work to really get it into my mind that some people have absolutely nothing of substance to add to a conversation.
01:43:16.000In fact, even listening to them is a kind of cognitive poison.
01:43:20.000It's like a slow epistemic punch in the head.
01:43:24.000Oh my gosh, I get this thing, sometimes people will be talking right, and they'll say right at the end of the sentence, and I have to turn the video off when it's happening, because I'm like, I'm not going to get brainwashed talking like that.
01:43:37.000Max also says, Tim, I know you don't like to say when guests are coming on, but would you mind breaking that rule once, and let us know when the serfs are coming on.
01:44:28.000Well, because I'm not invited on left-wing media.
01:44:30.000You know, we invited one guy on the show, and he publicly says, I'll do it, and then privately goes, I'm not going on your show.
01:44:35.000And then he takes it and turns it into a segment where he's like, Tim Pool is scared to debate me and all this stuff, and I'm like... So there you go.
01:45:31.000Yeah, I'm gonna tell him that story when I see him.
01:45:33.000All right, oh snap, it's Dave says, Luke, liquor stores stayed open because people who drink on the daily, if COVID didn't kill them, the DTs would have.
01:46:15.000All right, all right, we'll read some more.
01:46:17.000Wrath of Paul says the Bud Light fiasco only distracts us from the bigger issues that actually kill our freedom such as the impending collapse of the petrodollar and the implementation of CBDCs around the world.
01:46:28.000Well my view is not so simple on the petrodollar.
01:46:31.000I think It's actually, I think the petrodollar is dying.
01:46:37.000Yeah, if you see the curve, it's going down.
01:46:39.000And Donald Trump's view, this is my personal view, I could be totally wrong, I gotta ask the guy, but I think he sees this and he says, if we don't secure our borders, if we don't bring back manufacturing, if we don't get the American people back to work when the petrodollar falls, we're done.
01:46:53.000And the Democrats were like, no, no, no, Trump, you're wrong.
01:46:56.000We should destroy the planet before the petrodollar falls.
01:47:00.000And so, even though it's still gonna fall, they're like, warring Ukraine at any cost, and now we got those Pentagon leaks, which, assuming that are real, shows that Russia actually ain't losing.
01:47:10.000That Ukrainian air defense forces are gonna be depleted by the end of May, that the money we just sent to Ukraine is not enough, and that only around 8% of Russian troops that have been reported have actually died.
01:47:21.000So when they say 200,000, the numbers from these leaks, 17.
01:47:49.000But there's a lot of other things going around.
01:47:52.000I was talking about this in my YouTube video today, specifically with China brokering a peace deal between Iran and Saudi Arabia.
01:47:58.000Saudi Arabia has just called for the end of the Yemen war, which is a proxy war.
01:48:02.000They're bringing the Sunnis and Chias together.
01:48:04.000There's a big move here against the dollar here, and this is going directly against Israel and Americans' foreign policy in the Middle East, which is going to be some very significant ramifications for.
01:48:13.000You know, I'm reading this here super chat about Ian, and I think Ian's right.
01:48:17.000Duncan Chestnut says, Ian landed a 20 here.
01:48:27.000I think that's actually a decent point.
01:48:30.000What I was saying earlier is that if they apologize, then we go out and we buy as much of their product as possible.
01:48:35.000Because what we want people to see is, we want all of the analysts to be like, well, when they did this ad campaign, their stock collapsed and their sales collapsed.
01:48:43.000When they apologized for it, they made a billion dollars.
01:49:38.000A group of people are standing in a big circle, and there's a guy named Bush, and then another guy standing next to him.
01:49:47.000And everyone's yelling, so the Bush guy goes, alright, I'll please these people, and just punches the dude as hard as he can, like you described.
01:49:54.000However, everyone starts booing, and then the guy's like, what's happening?
01:50:09.000And I think when he then yells out to everyone, I am scared of you, please stop, it sends a message to every other corporation.
01:50:15.000If you want to see your net worth plummet by $4 billion, play that game.
01:50:21.000So for you, correct me if I'm wrong, this Bush thing is kind of like a line in the sand.
01:50:26.000And this is where we can actually do something to make a substantive change.
01:50:30.000I'll be honest, you know, Dylan Mulvaney is a product, as Vivek Ramaswamy said in a rather brilliant fashion, we thought the AI monster we would have to deal with is going to be a robot with laser eyes, but it's Dylan Mulvaney.
01:50:42.000It's the manipulation young people are experiencing at the hands of social media.
01:50:46.000And so, it's not so much a line in the sand.
01:50:48.000When the story dropped, I didn't care.
01:50:50.000When I first saw the story that Dylan Mulvaney was being sponsored by Bud Light, I went, well, how about that?
01:50:56.000But when Kid Rock then fired at a bunch of Bud Light, I said, OK, I will do a short segment about this.
01:51:03.000And so it wasn't even a main segment for me.
01:51:05.000And then I got 1.5 million views, and I said, OK.
01:51:11.000People have rallied around this idea and begun a boycott, and then Travis Tritt came out later, an event got cancelled, and I said, this might be the moment people actually decide I can do some good here.
01:51:24.000And so with that I said, okay, let's follow the story and see what's happening.
01:51:28.000Now that we're seeing real economic consequences, For me, it's opportunity.
01:51:33.000It is, finally, we have a $4 billion get-woke-go-broke, and everyone is piling on.
01:51:39.000And then the media started attacking me, and I said, over target.
01:51:43.000Can I just, if I may, put in a plug for my two passions.
01:51:50.000Star Trek Discovery has been destroyed by woke madness.
01:51:53.000It's turned the show into a living cesspool.
01:51:56.000Doctor Who, the last two seasons, have been utterly destroyed.
01:52:00.000And I would like to add, if I may, I would like apologies for destroying the franchise from both the BBC, you know, destroying Terry Nation's work, destroying Star Trek.
01:53:27.000The issue is it's really hard to get an app on the App Store for iTunes.
01:53:31.000But I think the Android app is going up really soon.
01:53:34.000And this means that you can log in and get access to all of the content and it'll be really easy to navigate and I'm really excited for it.
01:54:03.000So that's what differentiates you from I mean, just think about how silly it would be if someone superchats, you said the name of the gun wrong, it was actually this, and then I went, well I don't care, I'm not correcting, like, they're literally listening to each other, and they know I'm wrong.
01:54:16.000The only thing I can do is be like, I got that one wrong.
01:54:18.000Yeah, so you have a good audience, that's good, that's really good.
01:54:24.000There's a big difference in a crowd that just watches for kind of in the background and people that really listen to the stuff, the content.
01:56:35.000is a wonderful book for people who haven't read it.
01:56:37.000I think he's emotionally slighted by the fact that he said, sure, I'll write a statement, did, and then went, it wasn't good enough, and then they resigned, and he's like, you eff with me, you get the horns, you know what I mean?
01:56:48.000And I think he's going to play ball with the military-industrial complex.
01:56:51.000He's been pretty straightforward that he's going to be a different guy after eight years in there, and that's why, because he will decide where the bombs fall.
01:58:19.000So I'm thinking maybe we need to just run the TimCastIRL channel like we do for Instagram and just start producing more and more content for it.
01:58:30.000All right, let's see what we got here.
01:58:32.000Jomas says, I install steam boilers for a living.
01:58:35.000Beers after a really dirty one brings the guys together.
01:59:34.000Yeah, just replace the beer with beef liver.
01:59:36.000Just have a bunch of beef liver with the boys.
01:59:38.000Well, hard alcohol I think is better for it.
01:59:41.000You know, it's like that movie from, I think it was like the 80s, where they're shooting into the house, the vampires are in the house, they're shooting in the house, and the bullets aren't hurting the vampires, even though they're hitting them, but it's making holes in the barn.
02:00:26.000What they can do is take loans against their stock, and then they have a ton of money, and then they can cash out their stock when they're allowed to, and then pay back loans and things like that.
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02:02:26.000I want to say I really enjoy the spirited discourse, and I think one of the reasons that your podcast has been successful, you and Rogan, is because you do have these kind of—and I like it when people tell me I'm wrong.
02:02:39.000I find that to be in that Tim Urban's book, What's Our Problem, that's the higher level, that's what you want to do.
02:02:46.000That's a reason that cements and glues friendships, is people say, you know, they call you out and you don't take it personally, I don't take it personally, I ask you a question, you answer a question, I ask you a question.
02:02:56.000So I think that there's something really lovely about that and that's what cements relationships.