Join The Daily Wire's Peter Bergen and Managing Editor Ian McKellen ( ) as they discuss the latest censorship stories in the sports, tech, and economics world, including the latest in the scandal surrounding the New York Times and their handling of a controversial article. They also discuss the NCAA female swimmer who is now speaking out against transgender male swimmer Leah Thomas.
00:00:24.000The CEO of Babylon Bee is refusing to delete the tweet, thus it remains up, creating a very strange circumstance where Twitter has the power to remove the tweet they say is offensive, but they won't do it.
00:00:35.000There's an interesting question here we'll talk about.
00:00:37.000Why doesn't Twitter just say it violates the rules and it should leave?
00:00:54.000We also have this story about this NCAA female swimmer who is now speaking out against transgender male swimmer Leah Thomas.
00:01:01.000Though what I find interesting here is that this individual chose to support and compete against Leah Thomas and is only complaining after losing.
00:01:08.000So there's a lot of interesting cultural stories we have now, especially Forbes has written a hit piece on Dave Rubin because Dave Rubin is having a discussion with conservatives about being a gay married man with kids.
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00:04:34.000And let's read that first story and talk about the Babylon Bee.
00:04:38.000There's a lot here that I find interesting.
00:04:39.000This is a story we have from TimCast.com.
00:04:41.000Babylon be locked out of Twitter for man of the year satire.
00:04:45.000Quote, if the cost of telling the truth is the loss of our Twitter account, then so be it, said the CEO of the Christian-based satire news site.
00:04:53.000So they received a notification from Twitter saying that their tweet has violated their rules against promoting violence, threatening, harassing other people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, disability, or serious disease.
00:05:09.000They said you can start your countdown and continue to Twitter once you delete the content that violates our rules.
00:05:42.000But also it's curious that Twitter Under Section 230, which grants this immunity to these tech platforms, it says that you can remove content that you find to be objectionable or, you know, lewd or lascivious or whatever.
00:05:55.000In this instance, and actually, truth be told, this is typically how Twitter does it, They make you remove it.
00:06:02.000So right now, this is where it's interesting, Seth Dillon has said the tweet they say breaks the rules is still up, available to be retweeted and seen by everyone, and it's going viral as people keep retweeting it.
00:06:14.000Why would he take that tweet down if he believes in it?
00:06:17.000And why wouldn't Twitter take it down if they think it's wrong?
00:06:20.000That's what I find fascinating about this story.
00:06:22.000Other than there's the whole culture war aspect of one perspective is allowed and one perspective isn't.
00:06:28.000But I'm curious if you guys have any thoughts.
00:06:29.000It feels like a parent making a kid clean up their own mess as punishment.
00:06:34.000That's kind of interesting because it's not just saying, we don't like what you said.
00:06:37.000It's also almost like a form of humiliation because they're like, you also have to take it down.
00:06:43.000It's not enough that you be punished for this.
00:07:15.000I don't see any kind of consistent harassment for a claim, and the guy can always block it anyway, so... I just feel like it's so heavy-handed.
00:07:23.000I think it depends on your definition of harassment.
00:07:25.000I mean, if you're a trans person, it's being misgendered the same way as if I call you a, I don't know, a bad word for female genitalia or something.
00:07:34.000You know, if I'm using it and I'm saying something that you feel is insulting, is that harassment?
00:07:39.000But then again, if that's the rule, the reason I deleted Twitter is because that's literally all it is.
00:07:43.000Yeah, this is the first time in a long time I thought I might actually just delete my account.
00:07:46.000No, I deleted mine three years ago because pretty much it's just all that non-stop all day long.
00:07:51.000Just, yeah, we were talking about this on the show last week, that Twitter only exists to emotionally destroy people.
00:08:33.000I would say, okay, you should be allowed to make a joke, whatever, but at the same time I look at it and I go, what am I gaining from making that joke?
00:08:39.000I believe in the right to be able to say something like that, but I wouldn't use it if it's just going to piss a bunch of people off and I don't gain anything from calling this person a man versus a woman or whatever.
00:08:49.000Well, I'll say, the Babylon Bee is a Christian site.
00:09:10.000And it was like, why conservative comedy isn't funny?
00:09:13.000And it's just like a weird thing to claim to, like, it's... Look, I understand the left is gonna pile on this dude who wrote, like, why conservative comedy isn't funny.
00:09:22.000Like, they're gonna go and comment, be like, we know, we know, it's so true, conservative comedy isn't funny.
00:09:26.000And I'm just like, yo, it's subjective.
00:09:30.000I've never watched liberal versus conservative commentary.
00:09:32.000When you look at, let's say, Bill Burr, I think would be more left than a lot of the people here.
00:09:37.000When you listen to his 2012 special on gold-digging whores and beating women, I mean, would that come out in 2022?
00:10:18.000When there was a Vice special I saw where it was a transgender comedian and they were explaining how to do comedy properly, you make fun of yourself, that you're not hurting anybody and there's no oppression.
00:10:29.000And it was a bunch of people in the audience and the person on stage was like a tall, skinny trans woman who was constantly talking about how awful they were to themselves.
00:10:37.000And the audience was laughing, like, no one's getting hurt because they're making the joke about themselves.
00:10:57.000So, you know, Gutfeld, I think Gutfeld on Fox is more like a observational humor, but not, I wouldn't put comedy first.
00:11:06.000It's like a, it's a political commentary show with snark, which makes you laugh some, depending on his audience, you know, it's one of the biggest shows.
00:11:14.000Seth Meyers does the same for the left.
00:11:16.000Maybe you want to argue that they're only laughing with the left, like they're being told to laugh or whatever.
00:11:20.000I don't know, look, if people want to watch it and they get millions of views, they do.
00:11:25.000I was watching like the Epic Fails compilations on YouTube.
00:11:28.000You ever watch those where it's just like epic fails and you see people falling down and slipping on ice and like tumbling into the ocean and stuff and I was laughing but it wasn't comedy.
00:11:37.000It's people getting hurt and people falling down but I was laughing.
00:11:56.000And maybe I'm misremembering this because it's been like 30 years or something.
00:12:00.000But it was a guy skiing, and he trips and starts tumbling down the mountain, and Bob Saget was going like, like, whoopsie, falling, and I'm like, thinking to myself, I'm like, is that man very hurt?
00:13:13.000And like the point of my tweet was, one, I'm kind of irritable, you know, so that's like not a positive statement about myself, but that, you know, it serves me well in my work and business that I don't tolerate any kind of, you know, impedance.
00:13:26.000So if they're like, oops, we seated someone else before you, I'll just be like, I'll go somewhere else.
00:13:40.000It's like a subreddit where they just make fun of like right-wing people.
00:13:42.000They screen grabbed it and they were like, it was just like making fun of me for no reason on an inane tweet having nothing to do with politics.
00:13:53.000I wanted to bring that up because you mentioned, well for one I wanted to bring it up, but also you mentioned how it's just like negative impulses on Twitter.
00:13:59.000And I'm like, I didn't talk smack about anybody.
00:14:02.000Like, I typically... I was about to tweet about AOC last week, and it was, like, nasty.
00:14:09.000Like, I want to make my point, but I shouldn't insult her or anything.
00:14:12.000Like, I can, you know, criticize her without just being stupid and childish.
00:14:17.000But man, I think you nailed it when you said it drives negative impulses.
00:14:22.000I also think, as we mentioned before, it exists just to emotionally destroy people.
00:14:26.000The one area where I disagree with you is where you said that there's no middle ground in the culture war, it's either here or here.
00:14:31.000The middle ground is not on there, on the tablet, it's out there.
00:14:35.000Every time I go outside and I talk to somebody in a line at a grocery store, there was a date I was on two weeks ago with somebody who I thought would absolutely horribly hate me over their position, they said, you know, she actually asked me, she's more left than I am, she said, what do you think of BLM?
00:14:48.000And I said, you're, okay, this is gonna be fun, I'm a white store owner.
00:14:52.000That was like there with activating a 400 watt air horn on my phone every time I heard somebody banging on the door June 2020.
00:15:00.000And it was actually a very, very reasonable conversation.
00:15:12.000It just doesn't happen on the internet.
00:15:14.000Because there's something about how people act when they're behind a screen that changes their entire perspective.
00:15:20.000And I think the fact that all the political conversations that we're having now versus 20 or 30 or 40 or 50 years ago are not in person, where there's always that thought of, you know, I could get punched in the face.
00:15:33.000And for the last two months, I've spent way more time avoiding my YouTube comment section, avoiding social media and actually engaging with people in reality or, you know, sitting next to them in a steakhouse or a bar and talking.
00:15:42.000And it's it's a radically different world.
00:15:48.000Well, so the problem is before you even get a chance to have that middle ground and that conversation, the Internet is sort of gaining more and more ground, getting more and more control.
00:15:59.000You don't know, if you see somebody's Facebook post where they say all this other stuff, it may kind of aggravate you already, because you're like, wait, I don't agree with you here, this, that, and the other, and you're immediately going to be arguing instead of just asking questions.
00:16:10.000And then I give my perspective, you give yours, you have a kind of a back and forth.
00:16:13.000You're already aggravated when you read somebody who's used their limited 140 characters to come up with the most douchey way to say that they don't like something.
00:16:23.000Or a way to aggravate, like there was this one article I read recently, it was about the It was about lawn signs, and it was something on the lawn sign, you know, in this household we believe that women's rights are everybody's rights, you know, that no person is illegal, this, that, and the other, and it's like, there's not really, like, that sign is an F you Republican sign, it's not an actual I believe in all this, and it also doesn't necessarily invite discussion, the same way that the whole, you know, like, you owe me gas money sign with, like, Biden with neck, with, like, an Xi Jinping uniform and all that,
00:16:53.000That's that, that memeing culture and all that, that doesn't open you to a discussion the same way that just, oh, you know, you're sitting next to somebody in a steakhouse.
00:17:01.000The intent is to create a perception of majority.
00:17:04.000So the Biden stickers, the goal of that is so that regular people will see Biden being made fun of and not want to be in the out group.
00:17:12.000So if there's someone who doesn't follow politics and they go to a gas station and they keep seeing the Biden stickers, Well, then they're more likely to be like, oh, yeah, yeah, I think Biden's dumb.
00:17:20.000Like, because the perception is if most people follow this, you don't want to be in the out group because the out group is dangerous.
00:17:27.000You lose access to resources and humans have that natural survival instinct.
00:17:30.000The same thing is true for putting flags on their porch or putting that sign.
00:17:36.000And so that's one of the reasons I say there's no middle ground.
00:17:39.000There is, you know, like you said, outside for the average person.
00:17:43.000But what we're seeing more and more Like, the reason I brought this up is that the conversations around politics have become completely inane.
00:17:50.000Like, we're seeing more and more people being made fun of for things that aren't even political, or conversations emerging around things that aren't even political or don't need to be.
00:17:58.000I think everybody is on edge to the point where they're just waiting for the smallest thing to tick them off to lose it.
00:18:04.000Everybody is very, very on edge and walking, just like vibrating with rage.
00:18:07.000Well, I think one of the issues is that you have people who... It's an addiction, it's a drug addiction.
00:18:15.000You want those hits, you want those clicks, and you're trying to find a way to get that satisfaction, so you want that tweet that's gonna get a thousand retweets or whatever.
00:18:23.000So you have a lot of people on social media who are constantly one-upping each other, taking it one step further, left and right, because they want people to react, they want people to share, they want people to respond.
00:18:35.000And there's no point where someone just, like, people need to start toning things down.
00:18:40.000I certainly think that there are... Look, my perspective and my bias is fairly obvious in this one.
00:18:46.000There's a reason why I think in polling, moderate voters and Republicans tend to agree on a lot of issues, and Democrats are completely in the out group relative to those two groups.
00:18:54.000Or I should say, Democrats are isolated in their beliefs.
00:18:57.000Independents and Republicans overlap massively on tons of issues.
00:19:01.000And I think it's because there's something just...
00:19:04.000Generally tribalist and cultish of the modern mainstream left and the things they're pursuing.
00:19:09.000You can get story after story that turns out to be false and they just end up believing it.
00:19:13.000You get illogical statements like only white people can be racist and Candace Owens is a white supremacist.
00:19:19.000Things like that that don't seem to make sense.
00:19:21.000I think economically a lot of people wind up leaning a little more left, but culturally they wind up leaning right because they think that type of stuff is crazy.
00:19:35.000I think that same person would probably prefer Medicare for All to the healthcare system we have now where you fall off a bike and then you have a $5,000 bill for spending 45 minutes in a hospital that you weren't even awake for.
00:19:51.000But there's way more overlap than people think.
00:19:52.000When you read the internet, you really think that, OK, because I've heard you say this one thing, I now know what you think about these other 42 things.
00:19:58.000But then when you actually go out in the real world, you realize that it's not like that.
00:20:01.000It's not just a clipboard where there's a checkbox of 42 different things.
00:20:05.000So as much as I would agree with you on a lot of this, one of the challenges I see is that The middle ground people aren't active, and so when we try and engage in things... They have jobs.
00:20:25.000A few years ago, we put on an event called Ending Violence, Racism, and Authoritarianism, and the keynote speaker was a very, very famous black jazz musician who de-radicalized members of the Klan.
00:20:37.000Far left groups threatened to burn the theater down and then showed up and protested it.
00:20:41.000The theater canceled our contract within two weeks, so there was not even an opportunity to have that middle ground conversation in a public setting.
00:20:47.000We ended up having to move to a venue with half the seats.
00:20:51.000I think a hundred and some odd people weren't able to attend because of capacity issues.
00:20:54.000So while there are middle ground people who are working and doing normal things, If we want to change things for the positive, but we're being shouted out and screamed at by the squeaky wheel demanding the grease, then it is eliminating any middle ground opportunities for conversations, hyper-polarizing the conversation even in the real world.
00:21:11.000I can see if you're not allowed to have an event how that would be aggravating.
00:21:14.000Yeah, the naming of that event I took issue with when I was working with Bill and we were kind of formulating the idea, putting the event together.
00:21:21.000I didn't end up going to that event actually, but I didn't like that it was ending violence as opposed to like destroy evil as opposed to create good.
00:21:30.000What was the argument from the people that wanted to shut it down?
00:21:33.000I mean, to be completely honest, from any... If I was to make an assumption based on what I know about these people, they don't have one other than they must shout down any and all individuals who hold civil libertarian views.
00:21:46.000So these were anti-fuck, critical race theorist types, and their whole attitude is just prevent the conversation from happening.
00:21:54.000What was the conversation that you were looking to have that night?
00:21:56.000Ending violence, racism, and authoritarianism.
00:22:36.000We had a mixture of some social justice activists like left-wing individuals as well as right-wing and libertarian individuals and not a single white nationalist or alt-right or any of that.
00:22:45.000It was like a relatively like centrist libertarian slightly center-right to actual far leftist speaking there with our headliner getting a standing ovation from the audience.
00:22:56.000There's no way they look at that and they say these are white supremacists.
00:22:59.000Now that's what they told the press and the press uncritically publishes it.
00:23:03.000Then they go to the venue and say, you have a bunch of white supremacists.
00:23:16.000And there's going to be very few that are going to want to deal with the aftermath after they've gotten your money for one evening.
00:23:20.000So, so it sounds like to go back to what you were saying about the middle ground existing, it exists in small private underground conversations that people can't find out about.
00:23:29.000It's just the people that were doing that are the type of people who are going to threaten to burn a theater down.
00:23:33.000They're not the majority of middle ground people.
00:23:35.000They're a very small minority that just so happens to be the loudest and the most active.
00:23:39.000The people that actually are in the middle ground, they have lives.
00:23:42.000You know, when I have conversations with legislators, I'll often tell them, when they'll go, you know, there are 14 lobbyists against right to repair, you know, and one person here, and I'll go, Yeah, they're on a farm.
00:23:50.000They're the reason that you have something to eat.
00:23:52.000They don't have time to drive two hours and then sit here waiting for three hours so they could speak for three minutes.
00:24:10.000The issue is... They are the majority.
00:24:12.000What happens initially, and I agree, but what happens initially is that corporations and politicians only hear one voice.
00:24:19.000They hear the people who are the loudest, and they hear the people who are the most obnoxious.
00:24:22.000And the people who are the most obnoxious are often the people that don't have jobs, don't have lives, don't care about their reputation, and that threaten to do things like that.
00:24:28.000And so what these legislators do is they assume if regular working class people won't speak up for this and won't have my back when I speak up for them, I won't.
00:24:38.000So we had a guy in here, Terry Schilling, just last week who said he runs an organization that's basically the NRA for families.
00:24:44.000and he was explaining how i believe was the governor of north carolina's
00:24:47.000everything so there was a governor who said if you know if you support a particular bill
00:24:52.000all of that is conservative groups like we will have your back and he was like
00:24:55.000okay and then when it came to the politics they all band and so he was like
00:24:59.000the only thing i see then is that is the left coming out and using force
00:25:05.000actually following through so that's that the issue i see is
00:25:09.000moderates don't really have advocates in my head for the most part
00:25:13.000because you know You know, moderates are moderate for a reason.
00:25:15.000They're interested in hearing what you have to say, or they're undecided.
00:25:19.000So you have a variety of right, a variety of left, and some centrist in between, and there's a conversation happening that, for the most part, the right is unwilling to stand up behind, and the left is absolutely willing to stand up and yell about.
00:25:32.000So you'll end up seeing Amazon, Walmart, Xbox, all these video game companies publishing statements in support of Black Lives Matter and left-wing politics.
00:25:42.000Then when it comes to the vote, you end up with a 2020 that looks very much like it just did, with a Joe Biden winning, and now you have all the politics that come after it.
00:25:50.000I think, for the most part now, what's happened in this country has become so irrefutable that regular people are like, I'm voting Republican.
00:25:58.000The general ballot, midterm general ballot polling is favoring Republicans by like, at 530 it has it at 2.4 and RealClearPolitics has it at 3.7, which is absurd because it's always Democrat up.
00:26:11.000So now that it's inverted, they're expecting it's going to be like a crushing defeat for Democrats.
00:26:16.000Ultimately, I don't think that'll solve anything.
00:26:18.000But the issue then becomes if regular people don't really pay attention because they're too busy with their lives, then all that really ends up happening is they'll say, OK, I'm not going to vote for the Democrat this time.
00:26:28.000But the Republican is just Democrat lite.
00:26:30.000It's going to be the exact same policies, the exact same play, the exact same corporatism.
00:26:35.000Or at the very least, they'll say, you know, we're going to pause things for here.
00:26:39.000And then once Democrats get reelected, they kick things back into high gear and keep moving forward.
00:26:45.000Yeah, I'm I was just thinking about about creating the reality we want with our words and how it's kind of disingenuous to say like things are good if they're not because it's like you're a realist.
00:26:59.000I'm kind of an idealist in this in this description.
00:27:02.000Anyway, we're both kind of moderate but There is something to saying, like, this is the way reality is, just describing the way you want it to be, even if it's not yet, so that people start to believe it and start to work towards it.
00:27:13.000But it's also disingenuous when, because this is like the no truth, but power, like, you can't just say that something is and then expect it to be like, but if you don't say that it is, it's never going to happen.
00:28:30.000The reality is that people on the right, be it, you know, and I mean this as the colloquial culture war right, which includes centrist libertarians and like post-liberal types as well.
00:28:46.000When conservatives go out and protest, they get smeared and slammed by the media and labeled as all the worst things in the world.
00:28:52.000And so, for that reason, I think there's a good chance that, you know, not that there's a good chance, but the left, the cultural left, the critical race theorist left, all that, they've gained a lot of ground.
00:29:04.000That being said, I think if you look at the polling coming out of FiveThirtyEight and RealClearPolitics is the aggregates.
00:29:10.000Republicans and the cultural right have probably gained way more ground.
00:29:13.000And like you're saying, most people are probably feeling this way more in the middle than anything else, at least out there in the real world.
00:29:20.000The question is, if the perception is that the majority is on the left, people will be unwilling to speak out.
00:29:51.000Missed the cut for the consolation final in the 500 Free at the NCAA Championships.
00:29:57.000So, this swimmer ranked 17th, and thus was booted out of the finals, and then issued a statement saying it's not fair because Leah Thomas, who won first place, is a biological male, and that's why she got bumped.
00:30:09.000I'll tell you why I take issue with this, and it exemplifies what I was just saying.
00:30:12.000A moment ago I was explaining how the culture war right doesn't stand up.
00:30:17.000Or, a better way to put it is, the middle, the not-super-political individuals who are just working and living their lives, don't stand up.
00:30:25.000So you were saying some moment ago that, you know, regular people out there in the world are probably closer to the middle, you know, but they have lives and jobs.
00:30:32.000The people in this competition, the NCAA Women's League, apparently, it's been reported privately, are all outraged that a biological male is competing against biological females.
00:30:45.000But not a single one of them publicly comes out and says, I am upset about this.
00:30:51.000I do not feel it is right to have me compete in this situation.
00:30:54.000They could, at the very least, say, I am issuing a protest to the fact that we are being told we have to compete against a biological male, but I will swim.
00:31:30.000The person who got 17th was bumped by one space, and they've got a scapegoat for what's upsetting them.
00:31:36.000Now, if people in the middle actually did care about this, and apparently, like, look, behind the scenes, a letter was issued, parents have been complaining.
00:31:43.000If they don't speak up and stand up for what they actually believe in and are worried about, then they're just going to lose.
00:31:57.000Right now, this is a left ideological position that a biological male is competing against females.
00:32:03.000This, uh, Leah Thomas is six foot four, broad shoulders, much, much larger than all of the other women, was actually, I think, ranked number eight in the men's division.
00:32:11.000Now, a lot of people are posting a meme showing that Leah Thomas was ranked 462 or whatever.
00:32:17.000That was after hormone replacement therapy knocked Leah Thomas to the bottom of the rankings.
00:32:21.000And then everyone started saying, look, it's a bottom-ranked male.
00:32:24.000Actually, before transitioning, was actually one of the top-ranked males and now is the number one female.
00:32:36.000These people privately are complaining about it?
00:32:38.000Okay, well, if I know they're mad, at least we can assume they are, they're gonna lose everything.
00:32:43.000These young women are not gonna win gold ever again, and it's their own fault for not standing up and actually issuing a complaint about what's going on.
00:32:49.000So here's the issue I have with people not standing up for women's sports.
00:32:53.000They specifically asked for a women's division.
00:32:55.000I remember learning about Title IX in high school.
00:32:57.000That was quite a while ago, but that's at the point.
00:33:00.000And I remember thinking, OK, I think it's cool that women have their own division that they can compete in, that they're only competing against other women.
00:33:06.000If you fought for something like that, you need to defend it.
00:33:11.000I see women just going along to get along.
00:33:13.000But I tweeted earlier and I firmly believe that if women don't stand up against this, if women don't refuse to swim with this false swimmer, they deserve to lose 100%.
00:34:00.000I think, to be completely honest, and I mean this legitimately, Rekha is only complaining because she lost and she got bumped and she has a scapegoat.
00:34:06.000I think you're right, and this is exactly a case of women being too agreeable.
00:34:10.000You can't give someone a foothold like that.
00:34:12.000You can say, I respect them as an athlete, fine, but they should never compete against other women.
00:34:16.000But why are you assuming they're opposed?
00:34:18.000If they publicly say they're for Leah Thomas, why would anyone assume they're opposed to it?
00:34:22.000Well, they wrote the letter, you know, they talk behind the scenes, you know, we really don't like being in a locker room with this It's obvious that this makes him uncomfortable and they know there's something wrong, but they're not saying, I will not swim with him.
00:34:36.000Behind the scenes, we have seen letters issued by the parents complaining, saying their daughters are upset and they feel like they're being cheated or whatever.
00:35:38.000And transgender rights, yeah, you're gonna get transgender rights, but women in sports, and women's sports is a unique, it needs to be protected.
00:35:45.000I think that Caitlyn is a perfect person to speak out about this because Caitlyn used to compete at the Olympic level and then transitioned to try to be more feminine.
00:35:55.000Caitlyn Jenner was responding to Pink News who said, Caitlyn Jenner launches another disgraceful attack on trans athletes without a hint of irony.
00:36:02.000And Caitlyn Jenner said, no, I just had the balls to stand up for women and girls in sports.
00:36:07.000And I didn't believe that tweet was real.
00:36:17.000So, so anyway, look, I don't, I don't know, you know, going back to what we were saying before in the previous conversation about, um, just everything that's been going on in the culture war.
00:36:25.000If most people are upset about what's happening and feel like they're in the middle ground, but none of them actually speak up, then it's just going to get worse.
00:36:33.000I would even say that that's proof that they're Caitlyn Jenner's part of the middle ground.
00:36:39.000She probably disagrees with somebody like Ben Shapiro and the Daily Wire on certain trans issues, but she also obviously disagrees with the idea of somebody who was born as a biological man competing with a biological woman in a sport.
00:36:51.000But I think the issue is that what we would refer to as the right in the culture war incorporates post-liberal all the way to far right, actually.
00:37:01.000So you have this massively eclectic group of people with varying different opinions.
00:37:05.000Caitlyn Jenner would absolutely be considered on the right.
00:37:55.000They would say I'm still right-wing, even if I hold those positions that are clearly social left.
00:38:01.000Right now, I mean, we'll get into this story in a second about Dave Rubin and conservatives, but if I say things that are clearly economically left and social left, it doesn't matter.
00:38:10.000Because my view of the world or my ideas on civil libertarianism don't sync up with the left, they would say it's right-wing.
00:38:16.000So then if my positions are not in the middle, then what's the middle?
00:38:26.000No, I think it's intended to be obfuscatively confusing.
00:38:31.000Well, the issue is that the left, the far left, is controlling all of the institutions.
00:38:35.000So in a perfect world, we could just ignore all of this and say, well, 99% of people are in what would be considered the middle by the far left.
00:38:51.000Is it the left that controls every institution or would it be neoliberal kind of people?
00:38:56.000Would you consider somebody like Sergey Brin, the CEO of Apple or the CEO of Google or the CEO of Facebook, are those leftists or are those people who are more neoliberal who will tweet the right thing at certain times but never actually stand behind it?
00:39:09.000So the issue is when we're speaking about, at least when we do, it's hard to define our words.
00:39:18.000Here on this show, the left includes leftists and neoliberal establishment.
00:39:23.000And the reason is that the leftists tend to align with, support, or vote for the neoliberals.
00:39:30.000So I'll say ContraPoints, for instance, is a prominent trans woman and leftist YouTuber, but made a video saying you have to vote for Joe Biden.
00:39:39.000That being the case, you'll see many of these people on the left, like Vosh we've had on the show, will call me a conservative.
00:39:46.000He clearly sees himself contrasted with me, even though he comes on the show and we agree on certain things.
00:39:52.000Granted, he's been accused of harboring very abhorrent views himself, whatever.
00:39:57.000What he believes is entirely unto himself.
00:40:00.000The issue is that It's more like, it's like what matters most is tribe, not principle or fact.
00:40:06.000So I can come out and be like, I think Donald Trump represents the worst of American culture, but I certainly think he was the better choice to vote for.
00:40:13.000Whereas the left is like, we don't care about all of the corruption we've complained about three years ago with Hillary Clinton, we're gonna vote for Joe Biden anyway.
00:40:20.000Or they make up some reason to hate Donald Trump, or leftists, you know, agree with the mainstream media's narratives even though they've been lied to 800 times in the past 10 minutes.
00:40:30.000So at that point, you can see the distinction between the spheres of influence.
00:40:36.000There's a bunch of different ways to define the different factions, but in the right, you have people who are skeptical and discerning of news and demanding of facts, and on the left, you have the media reported this time, so it must be true.
00:40:47.000Oh, that was wrong, but this won the media reported, so it must be true.
00:40:50.000Because I've seen a lot of right-wing Facebook people that I know, and they don't seem very discerning of a lot of the garbage that gets posted on Facebook.
00:40:56.000Yeah, I mean, if we're talking about regular laymen, you're going to see a mixed bag of people who believe random nonsense.
00:41:01.000I get a lot of news articles in my comments with somebody saying, hey, check this out, look at this, and then I'll check out the article, and I'll say, oh, that's a lot of interesting stuff that they didn't cite, and then I'll Google it, and it'll just all be BS, BS, BS.
00:41:11.000I specifically mean, like, among the leaders of, you know, You know, talking, sharing ideas, writing articles.
00:41:19.000You'll see on the left, they repeatedly fall for every single hoax.
00:41:23.000The right certainly does fall for some.
00:41:24.000You know, we had this conversation last week, but I can go through the whole list of every Black Lives Matter protest that turned out to be a false narrative, like Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, Ahmaud Arbery's a really good example, just over and over and over again.
00:41:35.000Then you can look at the Covington kids, you can look at Jesse Smollett, you can look at Russiagate, Ukrainegate, all of these stories proven to be false.
00:41:43.000And the issue is, When you have leftists and neoliberals either pretending to believe or genuinely believing stories that keep getting proven false?
00:41:53.000I think Trayvon Martin and Jussie Smollett would be different categories altogether.
00:41:58.000One is an area of somewhat disagreement on how something should have gone, and the other was, I just made this up.
00:42:03.000Well, no, no, no, Trayvon Martin was the media edited the 911 call from George Zimmerman to make it seem like he was racist.
00:43:03.000The problem with doing things like that that erodes people's trust is that they're willing to go to the other side and the other side can lie to them as much as they want because they just don't like this side as much as they do.
00:43:14.000People who just all of a sudden are like, my political belief has now been swayed because I'm hearing an argument from someone who's been honest to me about these other issues.
00:43:21.000When somebody's honest to you about these things that you've been lied to, it's very easy for that person to lie to you about everything else and for you to be less critical and then for the pendulum to swing in the other direction and go back and forth.
00:43:30.000Yeah, so, you know, the way I see it is, at a certain point, people will see, like, 10 stories in the mainstream press that are all lies, and then they'll turn to a conservative and say, tell me the truth.
00:43:39.000And they'll say, well, you know those things are lies, right?
00:43:41.000OK, now this was the truth, you know, here's the truth here, and they'll say, OK, I believe you.
00:43:45.000Because I have no—I don't know who else to trust, right?
00:43:48.000If you're honest to me about these issues, you're probably honest about this one.
00:44:51.000And this is once again the game being played.
00:44:53.000The story is, I'll simplify it and then we'll go through it.
00:44:56.000Dave Rubin and his husband are having two children through surrogacy.
00:45:00.000Prominent Christian conservatives say, I disagree with gay marriage and I disagree with birth through surrogacy.
00:45:06.000Therefore, you know, we'll issue statements of criticism towards Dave Rubin.
00:45:10.000That's very, very different from saying that his own audience has turned against him because, like, a handful of public figures who are Christian conservatives are having conversations with him where they say they disagree and they don't like his lifestyle.
00:45:22.000You know, if his audience turned against him, you'd expect, like, he's losing millions of subscribers or, you know, tens of thousands, he's getting disliked like crazy, and that's not happening.
00:45:31.000So here's the point of this article, in my opinion.
00:45:33.000They've not written an article to inform anyone of anything.
00:45:37.000They've written an article to just rile up people who already hate Dave Rubin so they can be like, haha, I was right the whole time, Dave Rubin's a bad person.
00:45:47.000I don't genuinely know if anything is to be gained by media doing things like this.
00:45:52.000And so, you know, I'll do a throwback when you said that Twitter is just, you know, negative impulses.
00:45:56.000I think that's where the entirety of the media is at.
00:45:58.000Well, if I read Forbes' own description of themselves, the first reaction that I have to this before I even care about the story is they say, Forbes is a global media company focusing on business, investment, technology, entrepreneurship, and leadership.
00:46:08.000And like you're writing about a dude that decided to have a kid while he's gay with a husband.
00:46:18.000There's a lot of money to be made in making people think the world is worse than it is, the world is more divided than it is, and we hate each other more than we do.
00:46:23.000And I think everybody's looking to get in on it as much as humanly possible, and I find it disgusting.
00:46:27.000Not everybody, but enough people are that it's raising an alarm bell.
00:46:30.000I would say there are certainly the grifters, as we call them, who want to get in on it.
00:46:35.000I wonder if also people are genuinely just in that world and it's making it worse and it's making it more pronounced.
00:46:40.000So the more stories like this come out, the more people get riled up, the more they talk about it.
00:46:47.000I genuinely think there are a lot of people on the left who truly believe what they're saying.
00:46:52.000And every day they come out saying, you know, the Republicans are worse than the Nazis or whatever.
00:46:58.000I think they justify it in their own minds.
00:47:00.000I certainly think there are people on the right who do the same to the left.
00:47:03.000However, I think the tendency on the right is they tend to know what the left is thinking, so they have a more balanced view of what the culture war actually is.
00:47:10.000And the left just keeps one-upping everything and getting more and more absurd.
00:47:15.000And I think one of the things that I have observed with the right is that people say, Oh, um, well, one of the things I've noticed that the right is constantly more well-versed in what the left thinks and the left is and what the right thinks, because we are constantly exposed to what the left believes, because as I said earlier, the left is in charge of the institutions, especially journalism.
00:47:35.000And that's why I think that such of a majority of Twitter is so left-leaning is because most of them are journalists.
00:47:50.000So the challenge when having conversations... Actually, someone super chatted this.
00:47:53.000They said there's no middle ground, there's only uninformed people or something like that.
00:47:56.000And so the issue is... I would disagree.
00:47:59.000I think that person probably has 40 different things that they most likely down a checklist, like this, this, this, this, this, and if somebody disagrees with them on one of them.
00:48:08.000So if you're an economic left on healthcare and you go to a healthcare convention where there's a bunch of conservatives talking and you're arguing for universal healthcare, they're gonna call you a leftist, you know what I mean?
00:48:18.000So it depends on which issue you're specifically on.
00:48:21.000But back to my earlier point though, the point I made earlier, if you're in the middle genuinely and you stand up and speak out, you're instantly right-wing.
00:48:31.000So, for instance, the reason the NCAA swimmers won't speak up about the biological male in the competition is because, as they've stated privately, they're scared they'll be ostracized or kicked out and won't be able to compete, or they'll lose all their career opportunities, they'll be kicked out of school, or generally just have their life ruined.
00:48:50.000These are people who are in the middle.
00:48:51.000I mean, these are people who are not pronounced one way or the other, who can't say a word because they'll be called far-right.
00:49:00.000If someone, if I went to give a speech and someone started calling me a name, like, hey, rightist, hey, you're far left, hey, you're a centrist, I would see that as them deflecting what I'm talking about and avoiding the conversation.
00:49:12.000It doesn't, it doesn't... People try to figure out who you are so they could figure out whether they should dismiss your beliefs without engaging with them.
00:49:28.000So, like, I don't need to know every piece of poop to know that poop stinks.
00:49:32.000COVID for me was one of the best examples that there was very, that there was somewhat diminishing middle ground in public discourse.
00:49:37.000For instance, I'll get all of these comments that say, you know, the reason that this stuff still exists is because idiots like you were wearing a mask in the beginning.
00:49:43.000The more you, if you comply, you will never stop.
00:49:46.000People in the store were wearing masks back when the television told us that you were a hypochondriac if you did that.
00:49:50.000We did that because I told them very clearly if everybody gets sick at the same time, payroll here is $20,000 a week, rent is $12,000 a month, here's how much money is in the bank, here's how much I can afford to pay you all if you all get sick and we don't have any money.
00:50:02.000So everybody decided to wear one, you know, just because we didn't know what the hell was going on yet.
00:50:22.000Yeah, because I was staying there to finish the shipping because the shipping person and the receptionist were staying home, so I was doing the job of both.
00:50:28.000So I would stay a little late and I would go to the bathroom after closing the lights and come back and I'd see hate mail at my door after eight.
00:50:34.000But there was a, you know, they would say, how dare you?
00:50:36.000You're some evil capitalist staying open.
00:50:37.000And then people that were on the right would say, you know, you pussy, why are you wearing a mask?
00:50:41.000And it's like, I mean, I'm not saying that you should have to close your business.
00:50:45.000I'm not saying that you should have to close your business, but but I'm going to do the basic things that I can do just to If there's any chance of it increasing my likelihood of surviving and increasing likelihood of the business surviving, why not?
00:50:57.000And it's like, it was just one or the other from so many people and it was very boring.
00:51:00.000So the person who said there's no middle ground, I think there is middle ground.
00:51:02.000Like even on an issue like COVID, I am not going to say, it's usually either this doesn't exist, this is a hoax, you're an idiot, or be afraid until 2030.
00:51:09.000And it's like, there is a middle ground of I will live my life.
00:51:12.000Here are the minor modifications I will make that don't have a cost.
00:51:15.000Here are the modifications that have a great cost that I'm not willing to make.
00:51:18.000And I, you know, I weigh it and I do it that way.
00:51:20.000But is the middle ground having an impact on policy?
00:51:24.000Is the middle ground having an impact on policy?
00:51:51.000But I wonder if that has anything to do with the middle ground.
00:51:54.000I mean, the conversation on Hunter Biden's laptop needed to happen in October, and it was shut down by big tech and the corporate press.
00:52:00.000I don't think the middle ground has as much of an effect on policy.
00:52:03.000If it did, again, in New York, you had mask mandates, business closures, and everything else.
00:52:07.000And in other states, they're saying, if you want somebody, if you, let's say, if you ask the schools to make people wear masks, you know, we're not going to give you money.
00:52:14.000So it's literally one way or the other.
00:52:16.000It's the radicals on each side that have an effect on policy.
00:52:20.000The issue I take with that is, if in Florida they say schools can't require masks, that's the government telling the government it has restrictions.
00:52:29.000If the government tells a private individual they can't open their business, that's the government imposing on private individuals.
00:52:33.000One's bad, one's government restriction.
00:52:35.000I would rather err on the Florida side than the New York side, just to make it obvious where I am.
00:52:40.000But I didn't even know if that order applied to repair shops, because they actually edited it.
00:52:44.000On March 20th, 2020, when Cuomo did the pause order, it was read as if the only places that can stay open are places that are doing technology repair for the government.
00:52:54.000And then they edited the website to make it sound like it was anybody that is doing technology repair.
00:54:19.000But instead of putting patients there, Cuomo said, you know, he'd rather just kill elderly people in nursing homes.
00:54:24.000I know they sent the USS Comfort, but there were a lot of complaints saying that they were not allowed to take a bunch of different patients.
00:54:29.000So it kind of wound up being, they claimed it was more of a PR stunt for Trump than it was actually helping.
00:54:33.000I only read one article on that, so I'm not as well informed.
00:54:35.000But I know that the Javits Center was supposed to be built to be a hospital.
00:54:51.000Once again, back to what we were talking about, if you go to the middle and ask them, they'd say, put the sick people in the Javits Center.
00:54:58.000But the Democratic establishment was like, no, kill the elderly in the nursing homes.
00:55:02.000And it was done in like five different states.
00:55:05.000Was that the Democratic establishment, or was that Cuomo being a dumbass?
00:55:08.000If it was just Cuomo, then you would have seen it with Whitmer, Murphy, Wolf, and Newsom.
00:55:12.000All of these different Democrat governors all doing the same thing.
00:55:15.000Did they all have a nursing home scandal?
00:55:16.000Because I didn't follow every other state.
00:55:17.000The only thing I know about Whitmer was the Walmart thing where you're allowed to go in aisle 11, but not 13.
00:55:59.000Now, it's possible it wasn't coordinated, but that they were at least communicating as to what was happening with each other and taking actions.
00:56:06.000Meanwhile, regular people were seeing their parents die in nursing homes.
00:56:09.000So again, you go to an average person in the middle, and they'll be like, hey, this is really, really bad.
00:56:14.000But if you come out and say the things we're saying right now, they'll call you right wing.
00:56:48.000So if you have a company that's massively profitable, why would you want to switch your entire management style and take a giant risk by having everybody work from home?
00:56:54.000But if your arm is twisted and you have no choice, it's either A, you go out of business, or B, you figure out how to make people work from home, you'll figure out how to make people work from home.
00:57:00.000And then once you figure out how to make everybody work from home, now you can say, you know what?
00:57:04.000Instead of paying $300,000 a month in rent for the entire floor of this office, what if we just paid $10,000 for a satellite office?
00:57:09.000You're saving $290,000 a month, and if that's the case, why are you going to have everybody return?
00:57:15.000I've walked home several times to my old apartment in Bed-Stuy from Manhattan on 27th Street.
00:57:22.000Maybe it's just because I'm used to it or I grew up there or I'm missing something, but I haven't felt any fear of crime on my walk home, more than at least what I've ever felt.
00:57:29.000But it's just all these places, all these office buildings, all these stores, they all save for rent.
00:58:23.000The point I'm making, what I'm pointing out with the taxes is that the cost of living is high.
00:58:28.000The average person needs to make like six figures to have a middle class life.
00:58:32.000I think in New York State it's like $150,000 to $175,000 you need to make to be considered middle class because of the cost of living being so high.
00:58:42.000So you're BuzzFeed, and you're like, if I want to hire someone in New York to come in the office and write about Brad Pitt's junk or whatever, I gotta spend $175K for mid-tier talent.
00:58:52.000Okay, well, in rural, upstate, or even in central PA, where the cost of living is low, they can do the same work.
00:59:00.000We can do virtual meetings, you can metaverse or whatever.
00:59:06.000So now the dude who's sitting in New York whose talent tree includes writing about Brad Pitt's junk is sitting there being like, I can't get a job anywhere.
00:59:13.000Do you think that California making it, I think what they did was made it illegal to have people not be employees but to be contractors for writers and vloggers.
00:59:21.000Do you think that was a good or a bad move?
01:00:37.000The working from home thing changed my life.
01:00:38.000I used to work always on location and then in 2010 I started working with Mines and we just kind of worked from our laptops from a Starbucks or wherever.
01:00:45.000And man, the commute is really draining.
01:01:09.000So people have to physically walk in and hand you something to fix.
01:01:13.000So you can't, I mean, you could theoretically do the remote, if what, you bought something in the middle of nowhere and said, ship me your phone and I'll fix it.
01:01:18.000Yeah, but that would still require the employees to commute to that location to do the job.
01:01:21.000I just mean for like New York City, like your job requires you to be a service on the ground in New York City for people of New York City.
01:01:28.000Some things we're not going to be able to automate or remote or whatever.
01:01:32.000Some things are never going to really be remote, fully remote.
01:01:50.000You having to have a physical brick and mortar location, I'd assume costs are going up, right?
01:01:54.000My costs went, all my prices went up in 2012 when I opened a real store rather than just, you know, work out of the park or anything like that.
01:01:59.000I haven't raised my prices anymore now because when people lose their jobs and everything else costs more money, they tend to not want to spend more money on their repairs.
01:02:06.000If your grocery bill is twice as much and you just lost your job from COVID, you're probably not.
01:02:09.000If anything, people were asking for discounts nonstop in 2020 and early 2021.
01:02:13.000But have your costs gone up now in the past couple of years with the pandemic?
01:02:16.000My costs haven't gone up as a business.
01:02:18.000They went up not because of what happened, but because I moved in 2019 at pretty much the worst possible time.
01:02:24.000I almost tripled my rent at the worst possible time because business was doing this.
01:02:27.000And then I move and then it's like... But food prices are up as well.
01:02:30.000I mean, food and gas and everything is up.
01:02:32.000That's got to have an impact on your business, right?
01:02:37.000I just feel like in the long run from this, all of it points towards certain things are going to become more expensive, certain things are going to become cheaper.
01:02:46.000Things that have to be physical will probably get more expensive and things that don't have to be will probably get cheaper.
01:02:50.000I don't see how rent can get any more expensive in New York City, but it continues to.
01:02:53.000I know what how is it gets me to a point where they're like, hey, no one lives here anymore.
01:02:57.000Let's just drop the rent back down to I don't believe any.
01:03:00.000I don't think anything there is supposed to be rented.
01:03:02.000Like this started as a I didn't I didn't even intend for this to be like a real video series.
01:03:06.000I just was looking for a new store in 2019.
01:03:08.000And I was so aggravated that every time I'd see a place they lied about, I said, I'm gonna buy one of those little laser measurers.
01:04:16.000The best thing that I can imagine was this gentleman I'll quote on Reddit, Laminar Flow, who was saying that a lot of these properties, let's say the mortgage, will be owned by a bunch of investors as a commercial mortgage-backed security.
01:04:29.000And I'm probably misphrasing this because I read it a year and a half ago.
01:04:32.000But you can't simply... If you lower the rents on the property, the value of it goes down.
01:04:37.000If the value of it goes down, well, your collateral is the actual building, which means that the owner of the property would have to give up that amount of money, or you'd just default on the mortgage.
01:05:17.000I do think it is possible for mortgages to call in if the value of the house drops too low and the bank panics, but I'm not sure exactly how that works.
01:05:23.000I don't know how it works with commercial mortgage-backed securities.
01:05:25.000It was the closest thing that sounded like it made any sense, but I can't pretend I know.
01:05:29.000I think what might be happening right now is Prices, because demand is low, prices actually are dropping.
01:05:37.000But the reason you see the rent staying, you know, going up is because inflation is actually outpacing the rate at which the building should be decreasing in value based on supply and demand.
01:06:34.000I think it might have been Thomas Massey who said this.
01:06:36.000Nancy Pelosi included a 21% congressional budget increase.
01:06:42.000Either that means she's giving everybody, like, a big raise during a crisis, or to cover the cost of inflation for their congressional budgets, they just did a 21% increase, which says a whole lot about what inflation might actually be.
01:06:56.000So if the actual demand for these places is non-existent or gone down dramatically, then it should go from $100 a square foot to maybe $30 a square foot, right?
01:07:06.000Then inflation hits and it spikes right back up, because it's New York and things are just getting crummy.
01:07:10.000Even if it was 20% inflation, if it went from 100 to 30, then it should only go up to, let's say, 36 or 38 or 40.
01:07:15.000But I mean, like, New York has a substantially higher cost of living, so going from 100 to 30 was just medium hyperbolic.
01:07:23.000If it goes from 100 to, like, you know, 85, and then it jumps up another 16, it goes back up to 100.
01:07:31.000I'm just speculating, to be completely honest.
01:07:33.000I honestly don't know where we're going to go from here, because I think almost all work we're seeing now, from most of the millennial generation and lower, is just not real work.
01:07:42.000To be completely honest, what we're doing is work.
01:07:46.000I read the news all day every day, so I know stuff, and I read all this stuff.
01:07:50.000But man, it's kind of crazy to me that we sit in a room talking about things and it generates revenue.
01:07:59.000There are people who work at BuzzFeed who, like I said, write about Brad Pitt's junk or whatever and they make $60,000 a year.
01:08:04.000And that's crazy because the dude loading the plane, I swear, I think we're very close to some kind of, you know, Occupy-style revolt or whatever.
01:08:12.000Maybe this will be a catalyst in the Civil War or something like that.
01:08:16.000The people who load planes so that you can travel around get paid probably $15 an hour at this point.
01:08:21.000Yet the dude sitting in an office in New York with a finger up their nose, wondering like, how can I call Trump racist today, is getting paid $40 an hour.
01:08:41.000Let's say you work at an airline, and I say this job because I did it, and we got paid $10 an hour back in 2008.
01:08:48.000Let's say you're working that job and you're getting $15 an hour right now, or maybe even $20 still.
01:08:54.000And then you're doing this job, and you look up in that plane, and you're thinking to yourself, like, you know, truth be told, when you work for these companies, you get to fly for free.
01:09:01.000You have to pay the taxes on it, but you get non-rev flights, standby.
01:09:06.000But you're wondering, like, what is that guy up there doing, that 25-year-old dude with those thick black framed glasses?
01:09:12.000What does he do for a living that he gets to fly on this trip to Nassau, to go to the Bahamas, man?
01:09:18.000Here I am doing all of this hard back-breaking work, 50,000 pounds per day, loading these planes, and I don't make enough money to go on these vacations, and who's that guy?
01:09:28.000Now, these guys are probably assuming, like, must be a tech guy, must be a finance guy, and then the dude up there with the black-framed glasses is like, Brad Pitt's junk was seen in a movie today, and he's making all that money so he can fly to the Bahamas.
01:09:40.000Like, this system is broken, if you were to ask me.
01:09:43.000Yeah, I have a feeling that the megacorps are coming to buy all the land.
01:09:46.000Not all the land, but a lot of property.
01:09:48.000Like Black Rock State Street, they're gonna buy up a bunch of property, and then there may be a revolt.
01:09:53.000An American revolt against the corporate landowners, because it's like, you may own it on paper, but if you're not there, you don't really have control of the property.
01:10:01.000They'll have private security, and then it's up to is the American government going to support the corporations and the law that says that they own it, or are they going to support the people and the freedom against corporate monopoly?
01:10:11.000Because if you want to print $80 trillion and then give it to BlackRock to buy $80 trillion worth of property before inflation, and then destroy the economy, BlackRock doesn't get to own that property.
01:10:21.000You will own nothing and you will be happy.
01:10:23.000Well, I suspect what's more likely to foment a revolution, because this infuriated me and I'm incredibly patient, was something like the Bloomberg opinion talking about ways to save money.
01:10:33.000Some of the things you can do are not treat your pet if they have cancer, take the bus, and eat lentils instead of meat.
01:10:38.000Wait, did it actually say not treat your pet if they have cancer?
01:10:55.000It's actually from a month ago, but it gets into the core of Right to Repair.
01:10:58.000It says, A fight over the right to repair cars turns ugly.
01:11:01.000In the wake of a voter-approved law, Subaru and Kia dealers in Massachusetts have disabled systems that allow remote starts and send maintenance alerts.
01:11:10.000Now, I'm not super interested just in that, because I want to talk about the bigger picture, but I think this shows an interesting, you know, issue as it pertains to these big corporations, and the rest of us, who will eventually own nothing and be happy.
01:11:21.000I'd just like to point out, like your iPhone, what is it?
01:11:24.000You don't actually own the software on it, you have a license to it, and they could brick... Oh, you can keep the phone, but we'll brick it remotely because we own the software and you lose your license to it.
01:11:33.000This is a problem because we're losing ownership in things.
01:11:35.000We don't own movies anymore, we don't own the software on computers, and when it comes to you actually buying a phone, you can't even fix it without the company denying your warranties.
01:11:45.000So, Lewis, you're actually the right-to-repair guy, right?
01:11:49.000Alright, so tell us what's going on with this and what's up with what this means.
01:11:53.000There was a 2012 law that was passed in Massachusetts where the automotive manufacturers would have to give independent mechanics access to what's needed to be able to repair your car.
01:12:04.000So diagnostic software and everything else.
01:12:06.000You'd have to make that available to them.
01:12:07.000And there was one loophole in it with regard to wireless.
01:12:11.000So if you are doing all of this stuff wirelessly, then you won't have to deal with that law.
01:12:16.000So they were trying to close that loophole before everything winds up being done wirelessly so that they don't get locked out.
01:12:21.000And there was a ballot initiative, and I believe it was 75% in favor, 25% opposed.
01:12:26.000And a group called... To get rid of the wireless loophole, or what?
01:12:30.000Well, to pass this, so that there wouldn't be any sort of loophole, so that you'd still be able to.
01:12:34.000And the idea that they're saying is that people now, if you allow these independent mechanics to be able to use diagnostic software on the car, that they are, and also they were going to create an open, some sort of open data protocol, so that they would be able to access it.
01:12:48.000That they would then be able to follow you to a garage and sexually assault you.
01:12:53.000Well, there were a bunch of commercials done where there was a woman walking to her car and it was a nice very very dark blue lighting and she's getting into her car and this scary music is playing and right as before she opens her car window she looks behind herself and she's about to get smacked by some dude and the implication is that that dude is the car mechanic.
01:13:08.000Like the car mechanic was kidnapping women?
01:13:11.000And then there was another one where this car mechanic is slowly walking up on the garage.
01:13:14.000This woman is slowly closing the garage door and he opens it up and then he walks into her home.
01:13:18.000And you hear the scary music playing in the background.
01:13:20.000The implication is that's the dude that fixes your car.
01:13:22.000So this was paid for by Ford, Honda, Nissan, General Motors, and Toyota.
01:13:26.000They each contributed four to five million dollars for those commercials.
01:13:29.000They were all scrubbed from the internet entirely because why would you want to be associated with this after you lose?
01:13:34.000But I archived them on my channel and that's what they were doing to try to get people to vote against it.
01:13:39.000Is there a way to search for this real quick while you're talking?
01:14:05.000Yeah, this was August 2020 that I made that video and I put the video there and you can't find it anymore.
01:14:10.000And their website is completely scrubbed.
01:14:11.000They were trying to scare your average voter into believing that if independents are able to work on your car, that they'll be able to assault you in a parking lot and break into your home.
01:14:18.000Called lobbyists imply right to repair helps domestic abusers push racism.
01:14:42.000Domestic violence advocates say a sexual predator could use the data to stalk their victims.
01:14:49.000Pinpoint exactly where you are, whether you are alone, even take control of your vehicle.
01:14:58.000no what i think we're gonna start here but i think the look in
01:15:01.000behind herself of the whole time she's walking through that place alone
01:15:04.000firstly yeah and it will like you to hear what's that's a really
01:15:08.000yes so that they were there looking to overturn that ballot initiative and
01:15:11.000they've been in court for this entire time and the judge is actually starting to get kind of aggravated
01:15:15.000with their arguments what they're saying because they said it's
01:15:17.000impossible for us to Yet then Kia and Subaru complied by simply disabling their wireless systems altogether, which is... It's a discussion as to whether that's complying with it or evading it, but it aggravated the judge.
01:15:27.000So the judge is likely gonna... There's a good chance that this winds up getting held up.
01:15:30.000And yeah, I mean, if you buy a car, you should be able to fix it.
01:15:34.000You should be able to get access to the diagnostic tools.
01:15:35.000This shouldn't be something where it's like dealing with Apple, where you... If you want to be able to diagnose it, you have to Wait for somebody to get a stolen schematic off of a truck in China somewhere so that you could fix the $40,000 car that you own.
01:15:46.000I just want to point out the absurdity of them trying to play the racism angle, where it's just like they're probably sitting in a room like, how can we get people to not be okay with this?
01:15:57.000So in March of 2020, there was a Right to Repair Bill hearing in Maryland, and there was one person who said, you know, this bill talks about making source code available, which it doesn't.
01:16:08.000It doesn't mention source code once, that's never in the bill.
01:16:10.000And he said that, well, you know, by the way, viruses don't just appear out of nowhere, they appear because people have access to the source code.
01:16:17.000You could immediately hear every single person who was a Linux developer Or a systems administrator who knows that over 60% of the internet is run on Linux, which is open source.
01:16:24.000Like, just banging their head against the wall listening to this.
01:16:26.000So I did a video saying, with the testimony, because I went there to record it, and I also testified in this hearing, to explain why this was wrong.
01:16:33.000And I listened to that video, I've listened to that video like a hundred times since I did it.
01:16:38.000I try to channel my own, like, Ibram X. Kendi or, you know, Robin DiAngelo to try to figure out what I could have said or done that was wrong, and I don't see it.
01:17:00.000Which is normal political discourse in our country, regardless of race.
01:17:03.000But he had said, so when we hired a lobbyist in that state, they said that that was a racist video and that's why they weren't going to consider right to repair.
01:17:11.000So then the lobbyist said, well listen, my client is willing to personally come down here on a trip, come to your office and apologize and discuss anything with you.
01:17:19.000He's like, no, don't worry about it, water under the bridge.
01:17:20.000Then two weeks ago they say, oh yeah, there was a very racist video that was done and I'm not going to consider this bill.
01:17:29.000And I've literally read through every single comment, every single one of the 300 comments, because you'll see, there are comment sections on YouTube where they'll say, you know, oh, look at that set of runners where the runner means jogger and jogger means n-word for somebody that doesn't actually want to say it.
01:18:48.000You go to followthemoney.org and that day you see Kim Roback, the AT&T, who used to be lieutenant governor, who was an AT&T lobbyist, who testified against the bill, gave him money.
01:18:57.000Ernie Chambers, this is interesting, Ernie Chambers, who is a very left-leaning Democrat, and if you go to followthemoney.org, actually there's no company giving him money.
01:19:05.000He is purely fundraised by his neighbors and everyone going door-to-door knocking and people giving him a dollar.
01:19:10.000He said, and I quote, to consider this bill, strike all contents from the bill and write in the following, better luck next year, and then he started laughing at us.
01:19:22.000By the way, she was voted out of office by Tom Brandt.
01:19:24.000No, she was beat out of office by Tom Brandt, who is a Republican, who is a farmer, who won an election based on rights to repair.
01:19:31.000In Washington state, the Democrats voted for it.
01:19:33.000Every single person who voted against rights to repair, who didn't want it to move forward, was a Republican in Washington state.
01:19:38.000The interesting thing is, in Nebraska this time around, It was actually urban Democrats that voted for Right to Repair and rural Republicans that were endorsed by the Nebraska Farm Bureau that voted against it.
01:19:49.000And a part of me wonders, is this just them trolling?
01:19:53.000Are they just trying to say, like, are they trying to actually get the rural vote and say, listen, you guys see us all as city slickers.
01:19:58.000They're voting against you being able to fix your own tractor.
01:20:00.000We don't even know what a tractor is and we're voting for it.
01:20:37.000To try and get it passed by people and just bypass this entire disgusting process altogether.
01:20:42.000I said if I raise three to six million, I'll do it.
01:20:44.000If I don't, I'll just do traditional lobbying to try to get something passed in the state.
01:20:47.000So there's a state where I am, we introduced a bill that does not exclude farm equipment.
01:20:53.000And there was someone who was asking to be excluded from farm equipment, and it was a farm bureau.
01:21:00.000So I get an email from my lobbyist that I would have not shared, but at this point I don't care because I got called racist by senators in the state and the bill got killed anyway.
01:21:09.000He said you probably shouldn't share this because if you share stuff like this, do you want to get a bill passed or do you just want to stir up stuff?
01:21:15.000Well, I didn't get a bill passed doing it your way anyway.
01:21:17.000So I see an email saying, it's still a tough issue to address.
01:21:20.000Our problem isn't a non-ability to repair our own equipment, but more a lack of service providers in key times of the year.
01:21:56.000So if I show up to a state and I start advocating for rights to repair, and then we remove agriculture from the bill, that's going to look like this New York City slick or whatever is trying to screw over farmers.
01:22:07.000Do you understand how that looks for me?
01:22:08.000Now, you're the one who's asking to be removed from the bill, and you're saying if you're not removed from the bill that you're probably going to ask to be removed, and that's going to be awkward, so we should ask to be removed.
01:22:16.000So I need you to understand how bad this would look for me if I was to remove it.
01:22:20.000Can you explain why you want to be removed from this bill?
01:22:22.000And can you explain how I can explain in a PR-friendly way why it is you're asking to be removed when you're saying that you support farmers?
01:22:28.000And can you please explain this line that you told me?
01:22:30.000Most farmers don't have or care to have the knowledge of the equipment to repair their own equipment.
01:22:33.000And the answer that I got was, in my opinion, garbage.
01:22:36.000So there's, there's, there's, this is politics, man.
01:22:39.000You, look, if you, if you play it honest and honorable, you'll get stampeded over and crushed by the people who are willing to lie cheaters.
01:23:06.000And I'm doing that every single chance that I get in every single state.
01:23:10.000Like with Nebraska, I pointed out, by the way, here are all the people that are endorsed by the Farm Bureau.
01:23:14.000Here are all the people that voted against it.
01:23:16.000Do you see that all the people that voted against it are endorsed by the Farm Bureau?
01:23:18.000So what you're proposing is simple, that people who buy a tractor are allowed to fix their own tractor.
01:23:24.000I'm saying that make available the diagnostics, the schematics, and the tools at a fair and reasonable price that you make available to your own dealers or technicians.
01:23:32.000So if you sell the software package to a dealer for $5,000, let them buy it for $5,000.
01:23:36.000If you sell this schematic for $500 or this manual for $500, sell it to the independent for $500.
01:23:44.000Right now, I rely, for my business, on stuff that fell off the back of a truck.
01:23:47.000It's all, like, the process that I go through to get access to screens and chips, my customers think that I just go to Mouser.com and I just buy everything that I want.
01:23:56.000They have no idea the Nicolas Cage, Lord of War, supply chain, ridiculous nonsense that happens in the background so that I can get them a computer screen.
01:24:03.000But there's, yeah, this plays into phones and stuff as well, right?
01:24:07.000It goes, yeah, it's with almost everything.
01:24:09.000And you know, one of the things that drives me nuts is when people say, just don't buy Apple and it'll go away.
01:24:12.000I talk about Apple products because that's what I fix.
01:24:15.000But show me a smartphone where you can get the schematic from the company.
01:24:18.000Even Fairphone, who says they support right to repair, will not give you a schematic for any amount of money.
01:24:24.000I don't know if they have a schematic.
01:24:25.000I think the only thing that would give you, I think... You're not gonna get it because they buy it third party.
01:24:28.000I haven't double-checked if this is the case, but I think PinePhone will, but if you use it, it is... They're a great company.
01:24:34.000It's a bit far from the experience that you'll get if you buy, you know, an S10e or an iPhone X or anything like that.
01:24:41.000They're getting there, but there's no... If you want to have access to things like this, you really have to give up the ability to live in a modern society.
01:24:48.000You know, you can't get a schematic to your monitor.
01:24:50.000You can't buy chips to a lot of the things that you want to.
01:24:53.000Is the challenge, though, like copyright?
01:24:56.000Yeah, what they'll say is they'll say that it is an intellectual property issue.
01:25:01.000But here's the actual issue I think it is.
01:25:03.000I don't think it's an issue of if we release the schematic, somebody else will reproduce our product.
01:25:07.000Because if you go to venafix.com or, you know, NotebookSquad or any of these places, you could spend $20 and get access to all the schematics you want.
01:25:14.000I'm pretty sure every major phone company buys every brand new phone and just opens it and goes, I think here's the issue.
01:25:22.000They're afraid if the schematics get out that it won't be that users or other companies will copy their technology, but rather it'll show up that they were already copying everybody to begin with.
01:25:32.000So for instance, let's say you pay a company, and this is my speculation based on what I've heard from people in the industry that I don't want to give their name out, because they were probably doing this.
01:25:42.000Let's say you ask a company in China, you know, we want a laptop motherboard with these specifications and this chipset and this blah-blah modem and blah-blah-blah.
01:25:51.000That company that's actually doing everything in Taiwan or Korea or China, are they going to start from scratch to make it just for you?
01:25:56.000Or are they going to say, well, Dell or Lenovo contracted us to make this Control-C, Control-V, here you go.
01:26:03.000So there's a lot of technology out there where it probably is a direct copy and paste of somebody else's thing.
01:26:13.000So if you keep the schematic and everything private, you can't really see that.
01:26:16.000Versus if you make it public, then maybe it's a little bit more easy to see that, wait...
01:26:20.000You copied my Bluetooth circuit, you copied this circuit, or something like that.
01:26:23.000That's my best case, but you used to be, if you bought a radio, you bought a television, you bought any of this different stuff, you would open it, and there'd be a schematic on the back of it that shows everything's put together, and you could buy manuals to it.
01:26:34.000I mean, even for computers back in the day, they used to come with schematics and manuals that show you how to fix everything, and the argument that gets used now is security and safety.
01:26:43.000That we would be less secure and less safe.
01:26:45.000But were people blowing themselves up fixing their toasters 50 years ago?
01:26:52.000I felt like I talked over you what you were talking about, but OnStar can track where people are in their cars?
01:26:56.000And like, you were saying with this propaganda commercial that if a woman's walking to her car in the middle of the night, people from OnStar know that.
01:27:02.000Yeah, I mean, if I'm going to, like, I'm not going to spend $5,000 for all these different tools.
01:27:06.000If I want to abuse my wife, I'm not going to do all of this.
01:27:09.000I'm probably just going to toss an AirTag under the mattress or something.
01:27:35.000Ford, General Motors, Toyota, Nissan, and Honda.
01:27:40.000And the reason that all this stuff was scrubbed from the internet right after they lost is because they don't want to have that anti-repair reputation.
01:27:44.000They don't want to be known as the company that associated being sexually assaulted with having your car repaired.
01:27:51.000But they should be, because they paid for this.
01:27:52.000Yeah, Tesla open-sourced all their patents.
01:27:54.000I don't know, all our patents belong to you, Tesla.com from 2019.
01:28:26.000What if the you will own nothing is because everything's, like, open source and available for you to create your own, you know what I mean?
01:28:37.000I don't think that was meant as nefarious as they said it when they actually said it.
01:28:39.000I think the part of it was, you used to have a record collection, now you're gonna be happy with just, you know, you search for a song, like, you just type it in and it automatically starts playing for you, that type of thing.
01:28:52.000The thing is, that statement and that trend of you just having access to everything immediately at your fingertips, whether it's an Uber for a car or music, just so happens to coincide with a second, separate trend where every single company is doing everything they can to make things unrepairable because there's more money to be made than buying a new one.
01:29:09.000It is nefarious to say, you used to have record collection, now you have it on your phone.
01:29:13.000Because they can say, you're a naughty boy, so we've banned you from music forever.
01:29:17.000You could, you know, used to have record collection?
01:29:20.000They could come out and be like, you're a jerk, and nobody likes you, so you can't come to the record store anymore.
01:29:25.000And they'd be like, well, I got a big ol' pile of records right here, at least I got those.
01:29:28.000Now, Spotify will just be like, eh, we're gonna ban you.
01:29:31.000Like, I'll tell you this, man, Lee Camp, right?
01:29:35.000He's like a lefty guy, he worked for RT.
01:29:37.000He had a podcast, Personal podcast it wasn't through RT, and I got deleted from Spotify because he worked for RT.
01:29:44.000That's redacted tonight Redacted tonight was was deleted off of YouTube he had another show on Spotify that got purged a different show for being referred for working for our Russian outlet or whatever and But the point is that's a different kind of suspension you could be Yeah.
01:30:01.000booted off you know itunes and then you have no music and i think he's okay
01:30:04.000maybe spotify but if they all coordinate like that with alex jones
01:30:07.000is a really really bad thing for them to be like you alone nothing you'll be
01:30:10.000happy yeah you're happy until i can that was a black mirror
01:30:14.000where they blocked someone in real life yeah just a silhouette walking around i think i think that
01:30:18.000what they meant that statement is that you're going to use more services than on
01:30:21.000things i would prefer to own things and have services myself that's my
01:30:24.000preference i think that's that's a separate thing
01:30:26.000and they can sit and what's happening now which is everything that you buy winds up becoming disposable
01:30:31.000but it but i i i'm glad that that statement exists and that so many people are aggravated at that statement
01:30:36.000because it's going to cause people to be more sensitive
01:30:38.000to when you buy something there's you know there's uh... five dollar chip in your
01:30:42.000three thousand dollar map of that dies and they tell the company that
01:30:45.000makes it not to sell it Do you actually own what you buy if you cannot buy any of the components necessary to repair it because the company goes out of their way to stop you from doing so?
01:30:54.000Like, if I go to Intersil and I try to buy a chip that I could have bought 10 years ago, I'm not allowed to.
01:30:58.000They'll say, we can only sell to people who are on this approved vendor list.
01:31:01.000Renaissance Electronics will say, we can only sell on this approved vendor list.
01:31:25.000I think some of it is just the way people use things now, but also the fact that... I mean, if you plug a charger into a MacBook and there's something weird with your electrical circuitry in your house or something, it'll just blow a CD3217 chip and it'll be dead.
01:32:09.000When you have 1 million YouTube subscribers, you can say, you know, oh man, if only I had this chip, I could do this repair and I will get a box with no return address or whatever, with like a spool of chips and say, thank you for the YouTube videos.
01:32:22.000You could say, oh well, someone rid me of this priest and the priest is just gone.
01:32:26.000Yeah, but the people who started where I did 10 years ago, they can't do that.
01:32:29.000They're like, when I started 10 years ago, they can't do that.
01:32:32.000They don't have the ability to say something like that and just have some contact reach out to them that allows them to get access to all the things that I can.
01:32:38.000Like, I'm doing this for the people that started where I did because I want them to have a path to get where I am now.
01:32:43.000Like, I started doing this when I had $200 in my bank account, $1,000 in credit card debt, and didn't, you know, I just dropped out of college.
01:32:50.000And I was able to start a store and, you know, get 12 employees, have a decent Quality of life, and I want everybody else to be able to do that.
01:32:57.000But that path is that bridge that I crossed is slowly burning away behind me.
01:34:15.000And that's one of the reasons he's probably an investor in it, because he was driving a lot of that growth for sure.
01:34:19.000But he's got a nationally syndicated radio show and podcast that helped him build that up.
01:34:24.000But I'm saying, for you right now, you've got 1.7 million subscribers or whatever.
01:34:29.000If you were to jump over to Rumble or Mines, you wouldn't have as big of a platform.
01:34:33.000But if someone right now has nothing, has no followers whatsoever, I'd say Rumble.
01:34:37.000You know, in addition to what you're saying about the right to repair and access to open source machinery, schematics and things, how do you feel about software code?
01:34:58.000But if you're going to make a device that requires... Let's give an example.
01:35:02.000So there was a microwave recently made by Electrolux.
01:35:06.000And because it was given a software update that didn't work, that microwave now thinks that it's a steam oven.
01:35:11.000And it doesn't turn on because it thinks it's a steam oven.
01:35:13.000Now, why you have a microwave that connects to Wi-Fi is beyond me.
01:35:16.000Why anybody would like... Like, they perfected the microwave over 30... Everything that you could have in a microwave, like 40 years ago, when they put a clock in a microwave, I think that was the last update that you needed.
01:35:25.000But if something happens like that, even if you don't have access to the source code, should you be able to have access to the ROM?
01:35:31.000Because you need a service technician to come out to your home to fix that.
01:36:52.000The interesting thing about that tweet is that when they say that they're asking them to remove it rather than removing itself, Apple did something similar to me six years ago with one of my videos that had a schematic in it.
01:37:02.000They didn't file a DMCA claim, and they totally could have because it's copyrighted.
01:37:05.000And it says literally in the schematic, do not do this.
01:37:46.000All of my YouTube videos could be DMCA claimed by Apple in a day, and my channel would be gone.
01:37:50.000That could have happened six years ago.
01:37:51.000But the thing is, it's a rule that doesn't have popular support.
01:37:53.000And if they were to actually enforce that, then a bunch of normal, average, everyday people, that large, moderate middle that we were talking about that don't actually do anything, would rise up and do something.
01:38:04.000I think it may, maybe it's the same thing with Twitter.
01:38:06.000I, you know, again, with the tweet, like, again, I try, I avoid misgendering people because of why.
01:38:10.000I gain nothing from it, but I wouldn't ban it.
01:38:13.000There was a story about this, uh, this couple in the UK, I think they were protesting McDonald's and then McDonald's sued them and won.
01:38:20.000And the stock damage to McDonald's was substantially worse than any of the damage from the, it was like two people were protesting and handing out pamphlets in front of McDonald's.
01:38:28.000So they sued them one and the PR blowback was massive saying this big corporation went after these like two random people handing out pamphlets.
01:38:35.000So I forgot what the story was called, but since then there's been like a corporate doctrine never to be a Goliath going up against David because it'll, it'll hurt you more and cost you more money.
01:38:47.000Even if the rule exists, you shouldn't, if the majority of people would not agree with that rule existing, if it was invoked, then it's best to not invoke it.
01:38:55.000And just only invoke it when it's not going to get you in too much trouble.
01:38:59.000Murph says, Ian, I agree with you 100% that text is ruining our culture's communications.
01:39:04.000Would you put texting in that category as well?
01:39:07.000Yeah, it's kind of like we used to mail each other letters when we had the post office back in the 1800s, and now then we've invented the telephone, and then we invented video chat, but I see people reverting to mailing letters to each other email, you know, digitally now.
01:39:21.000Yes, I consider text the exact same thing.
01:39:23.000So go back to video chats with your friends.
01:39:25.000Well, see, the thing about text messages, though, is that if you send something over text that was misconstrued, you just press call and say, here, I meant this, you know?
01:39:33.000Now with Twitter, you can tweet something and people just either intentionally or ignorantly don't understand what you were saying.
01:39:42.000The one thing I learned from YouTube is that there are many ways for other people to interpret what you say, and yet there's so much work that has to go into it that doesn't go into it when I'm speaking to people that I know well.
01:39:50.000I think it's the internet in general, to be honest.
01:39:52.000Because we were talking with Andrew Heaton on the show, and he mentioned that other people had talked about, oh, Tim Poole, oh man.
01:39:59.000I've seen clips of him, and he's like, yeah, but have you watched a show?
01:40:20.000Because now what's going to happen is someone who hates Ian will take the clip of that and
01:40:24.000then publish Ian saying something and they'll attribute the quote to him instead of.
01:40:27.000It feels like it's like we're in a constative culture shock.
01:40:30.000I remember before the internet, it would be very rare to meet someone that I didn't agree with about anything, or that didn't agree with me, because I was from Cuyahoga Falls, and those were the people I knew.
01:40:38.000Then, now, I would start to put my oil onto the internet's water, and you just see these reactions.
01:40:43.000From the first moment, it's never stopped.
01:41:17.000I saw, uh, there was someone I knew a long time ago and I looked him up on Facebook and like the last post they have was like ranting about white supremacy and all these issues and I'm like, man, what happened to you?
01:41:29.000It was fun to be at work the day that the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict happened because I have a workplace where everybody can discuss it and there's no consequences.
01:42:02.000Admittedly, there was 45 minutes where no work got done that day because they were all talking about it.
01:42:07.000I know that there's a bunch of companies where that could never happen, and I was proud to have a company culture where that could happen.
01:42:12.000And nobody, like, hated each other because of it?
01:42:16.000I believe there is a greater than chance probability that people who thought Kyle Rittenhouse should go to jail just didn't know anything about the case or had limited understanding of what happened.
01:42:25.000It was surprising how many people thought that he was shooting at black people.
01:42:29.000And then, you know, with this story, it was interesting because I know a bunch of people who personally cried, mostly women, to be honest, like, no disrespect, but a lot of women were, like, crying.
01:42:37.000and i think people even dudes tweeting like i'm on the verge of tears man
01:42:41.000my heart rate skyrocketed as the verse but he read because we all knew the case and we all knew that he was
01:43:27.000Archimageurius Sancti says, I love old things because they're well-made and I can maintain them.
01:43:31.000Lewis is fighting for the massive cause of carrying the philosophy forward in the 21st century.
01:43:36.000And it should be... I think the only people who would oppose that are massive corporations who like planned obsolescence.
01:43:41.000I think, you know, the new group that's opposing it, it wasn't just them.
01:43:44.000It was also people that identify with the brand.
01:43:47.000So a lot of people nowadays, you can't just vote for somebody and say, this was the less crappy option.
01:43:52.000You have to identify all the way and defend every single thing they do, even when it's bad.
01:43:55.000Or they buy a product and it's not, I bought this just because it does what I want.
01:43:58.000It has to be, I love the company, I love the brand, I will defend them all the time.
01:44:02.000And when they see somebody attack Apple or attack Tesla, they don't think, I'm attacking Tesla because they treated their customer poorly in this instance.
01:44:08.000They think, I'm attacking Tesla, I'm attacking you personally and your identity because you chose to buy it.
01:44:13.000So they have this reactionary way of defending the company and becoming simps for them when it makes absolutely no sense.
01:44:24.000They said it was gonna be the end of last year and now we're still sitting waiting to get Starlink.
01:44:28.000Seeing where you are streaming out of, I was very surprised that you could actually stream out of this location when I saw just how far out of the way you have to go to come here.
01:44:35.000Yeah, we had to get them to actually lay like a mile of line.
01:44:54.000Then there's satellite, which is also not that fast, but we've used these as defaults.
01:44:58.000And then we actually had a company come and lay down fiber.
01:45:01.000They had to, like, actually dig, and you see those trucks outside, and they're laying it down for, like, a mile plus from, like, the main hub or whatever backhaul.
01:46:08.000Joe Biden was like, you know, he's like, we created a liberal, a liberal world order or something.
01:46:13.000And soon we're going to have a new world order.
01:46:15.000And it was like, he's like every three or four generations, you know?
01:46:18.000And it was like, I think he said, I can't remember exactly what he said, but didn't he say something like after world war II, we created a liberal economic order.
01:46:24.000And then, you know, soon we're going to have a new world order.
01:46:29.000You have to be very careful when you're a president and you speak in vague terms because you never know how people are going to take what you say.
01:49:09.000But if somebody takes apart an iPhone in China, and all the parts have Apple logos, and they bought it at an Apple store in China, and then it gets shipped to Florida.
01:49:17.000if it goes to a certain customs port just be anything with an apple logo just gets tossed out so
01:49:20.000you could literally have an iphone that somebody bought in china
01:49:23.000they sent all the individual parts and flex cables over and that could get confiscated that that's a way of keeping
01:49:28.000you from fixing your stuff so i mean one of the government's jobs even from
01:49:32.000a small government conservative perspective is it's there to
01:49:34.000protect property rights and part of your ability to protect property rights is to
01:49:37.000protect your ability to fix things I don't think that any of the laws that... One of the things I liked about Andrew Yang's campaign is he said that every time we come up with a new piece of legislation, we are going to write down, here's why we're doing this, here's the problem we're looking to solve, so you know the interpretation of it.
01:49:50.000And I think, I strongly believe, when they came up with all the laws that we have now regarding customs, intellectual property, copyright, patents, None of that was intended to keep you from being able to fix what you own.
01:50:00.000And I think that if they did know that it was ever going to be used that way 50 or 90 or 200 years later, that there would have been something written in there to ensure that you have the ability to fix what you own.
01:50:10.000Even John Deere, they were advertising in the 30s and 40s and 50s in their own literature, this is how easy it is to fix our product.
01:50:15.000That was the primary advertising point of a lot of their own You ever hear the story about public drinking in New York?
01:50:22.000When they first passed the bill, the idea was that they wanted to stop drunkards from milling about and causing problems.
01:50:29.000And so there's a quote, and it could be apocryphal, but this politician said, or a judge was like, never let it be misconstrued that this bill would bar a construction worker from enjoying a beer with his lunch.
01:50:40.000And quite literally, that's what it does.
01:50:42.000If you were in New York City and you have an open drink, they're going to give you a ticket for it.
01:50:46.000Especially depending on where you are.
01:50:47.000I guess if you're like drinking wine in Central Park.
01:53:28.000I don't know how that would work in New York because you'd be introducing it.
01:53:32.000Everybody in New York City is vibrating with some sort of anxiety or aggravation and it's only when I come down from New Hampshire to visit the store and walk around a bit that I realize the difference.
01:53:42.000How would reintroducing guns to 8.5 million people in this tiny little space the size of Knoxville, Tennessee be like?
01:53:49.000Compared to areas where they're already accustomed to the culture.
01:53:51.000You know, in Texas they're accustomed to it.
01:53:52.000In Tennessee they're accustomed to it.
01:53:58.000I think there's a problem with The more dense a population area becomes, the more rights get stripped away because everyone's anxious and on edge and kind of pointing a finger.
01:54:56.000We were talking about owning guns in, like, a building.
01:54:59.000And I was saying, like, someone brought this up.
01:55:01.000Like, what if you had a .308 rifle in, like, an apartment in New York City, and someone broke in, and you fired at them, and it went through?
01:55:07.000Luke said, and this is Luke Rutkowski, if we are changed.
01:55:09.000I want to make sure everybody knows this is Luke.
01:55:11.000He was like, maybe we don't allow those kind of bullets.
01:56:52.000But just be aware that everything you say to a person is manipulating them, their thoughts, everything.
01:56:58.000I really like the, uh, you do you and I'll do me, because when you end up screwing up, I don't want to be responsible for it.
01:57:04.000That's like, you know, a big key part of, like, my libertarian ethos.
01:57:07.000It's like, if I don't assert authority over you to do something, and then you get hurt, like, that was your choice and your fault, and I am not responsible for your decisions.
01:57:16.000Now, there's certain circumstances where I have to assert authority over someone, they have to do this, and then I'm responsible for it, and boy, do I not like that.
01:57:55.000But that's the power of Bitcoin is that it's decentralized and there's no federal Bitcoin reserve.
01:57:59.000So as much as the dollar is a Ponzi scheme where they just keep printing more money and propping the system up, Bitcoin is kind of inverted.
01:58:09.000There's no centralized control and it's, you know, there's only a finite amount that can exist.
01:58:13.000So then entropy would actually remove coins over a long period of time.
01:58:16.000Generally increasing their value so long as people use them for trade.
01:58:20.000I like the utility tokens that actually do things.
01:58:23.000I understand people that want to own land, houses, or let's say companies that do something.
01:58:28.000It's hard for me to understand people wanting to go from fiat currency to Bitcoin.
01:58:32.000Because I understand owning something that produces something or owning something that has a fundamental intrinsic value like you can live in this, this company produces oil, this company produces food, this land produces something.
01:58:49.000I'm not telling anybody to go do it, but gold, silver, bitcoin are hedges.
01:58:54.000I look at the price of silver and gold and I don't see them tracking very well.
01:58:57.000So I think they are still decent to have because you want alternatives, but bitcoin has been remarkable for people trying to store and protect their value.
01:59:05.000If you invested in Bitcoin right at the start of the pandemic, Bitcoin was around $4,500-$5,000.
01:59:39.000Well, I mean, you can call it liquid, but Bitcoin is an asset where you get value out of the dollar and then Bitcoin is only going to go up.
01:59:50.000It's weird because I agree with much of what Peter Schiff says philosophically, even though he's been 110% wrong on price every single time.
01:59:56.000Yeah, but when it comes to price, it's just his mutual funds almost perform as badly as his take on Bitcoin has when it comes to price.
02:00:04.000But from a philosophical perspective or, you know, what is this based on?
02:00:11.000So there's things called halvenings, where, I'm probably going to butcher this, but the general idea is the amount of Bitcoin you get as a reward for mining a block gets cut in half, or something to that effect.
02:00:22.000And so that means if you're spending X amount of dollars in electricity to mine a Bitcoin, and then the Bitcoins all get halved by reward, now it's basically saying it's twice as much electricity to generate one Bitcoin, so it's going to force the price to go up.
02:00:34.000The last happening was May 11th, 2020, right after the pandemic.
02:00:36.000And it's all it's all entirely predictable because it's predictable.
02:00:47.000Well, last happening was May 11th, 2020, right after the pandemic.
02:00:50.000I wonder if that's part of why it goes up.
02:00:52.000So miners are generating all this Bitcoin and they're spending electricity to make it.
02:00:57.000They're spending money on electricity to get it.
02:00:59.000They like to use renewables because it's cheaper for you in the long run.
02:01:03.000But then you hold the Bitcoin and then what happens is there's like a halvening.
02:01:07.000Then there's a big sell-off from all the miners which causes a price fluctuation and then like a spike happens because now the amount of energy to produce Bitcoin is going up and there's supply and demand.
02:01:27.000But again, ask somebody who probably knows way more.
02:01:32.000Generally speaking though, my view of it is, you know, what was it?
02:01:35.000November of 2019, we had Bill here and he was like, buy Ethereum.
02:01:39.000And I was like, okay, so I bought a bunch of Bitcoin and a bunch of Ethereum and then took off.
02:01:44.000The pandemic happened and I have never, In 10 years regretted buying Bitcoin.
02:01:51.000I have regretted every single time I sold it.
02:01:54.000So yeah, you know, but right now my investment in Bitcoin is substantial, like not like I have a lot of Bitcoin, but that I invested a little bit like like eight years ago.
02:02:05.000And now I just like I have no reason to sell it because like it's just.
02:02:08.000Even if it went if it went down 80 percent, you're still ahead.
02:02:16.000I like how you said that utility is key like with a with a phone if you're gonna invest in something you want utility out of it like a house something you can utilize that some cryptos have a they're called utility tokens and actually do something like if you go to mines.com you spend one mines token you can get 1000 views.
02:04:15.000Help people fix things and get people involved.
02:04:17.000That's how you get, that's how you change the world.
02:04:19.000What's the best way for people to get involved?
02:04:21.000Uh, if they know how to fix something and they know somebody that needs something fixed, uh, get them involved and get them to see how they can save money and get them to have that little kick of dope me when something works again.
02:04:29.000Like, you know, it's not about watching my YouTube videos or giving money to my nonprofit.
02:04:32.000It's about getting as many people as humanly possible to feel that kick of dope me when something works again and when they save some money.
02:04:37.000Cause then they'll naturally support it.
02:04:39.000And then they, they'll see through slander from companies, from politicians, from lobbyists and anybody else.