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00:01:05.000We also got to talk about Barry Weiss on Bill Maher's show and the response to it.
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00:05:21.000Smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, and now, let's talk about Joe Biden caught on hot mic calling Peter Doocy a stupid son of a bitch for asking about inflation.
00:05:34.000You know, I don't know how many times I can say the emperor has no clothes.
00:05:37.000The New York Post reports, President Biden called Fox News White House correspondent Peter Doocy a stupid son of a bitch Monday after he asked about Biden.
00:05:45.000He asked Biden about soaring inflation.
00:05:48.000Do you think inflation is a political liability?
00:05:51.000Doocy asked Biden as the press was ushered out of an event in the White House East Room.
00:05:56.000Now, I think it's fair to say Biden didn't realize he was actually responding.
00:06:00.000I think he thought the mic was off or whatever.
00:06:02.000He says, no, it's a great asset, more inflation.
00:06:05.000What a stupid son of a bitch Biden sneered into a hot mic.
00:06:09.000The president's vulgar insult was cut from the White House video feed, but was audible on C-SPAN.
00:06:15.000Doocy's question about inflation came after a Fox News poll released Sunday found that 85% of Americans are worried about inflation, which hit a 40-year high of 7% in December.
00:06:25.000Now, look, Joe Biden, this is a great question from Peter Doocy, because Joe Biden is presiding over massive inflation.
00:06:33.000If he was actually pressed on this in an open setting, you know, Peter Doocy is like walking out of the room, all the reporters are yelling, Joe Biden would have to deflect or defend rampant inflation.
00:07:05.000But here's why I think it's so important.
00:07:06.000Because you've got this from CNN, why inflation can actually be good for everyday Americans and bad for rich people.
00:07:13.000Yo, I think regular people are just, every day, it's a bucket of ice water thrown in their face.
00:07:20.000Because imagine you're somebody who's, you know, you're probably not that smart, to be honest, if you believe this stuff from CNN.
00:07:25.000And I think, I'm saying that because I'm confident nobody who watches this show is stupid enough to believe the lies coming out of this inflation stuff with like, inflation's actually good for you.
00:08:02.000I mean, at the end of the day, whether viewers and readers are politically astute or not, when you go to the store and a pack of bacon that used to cost you $6 now costs $9, and the price of gas is going up, the price of eggs and milk, if you can even find them on the shelves, I think that's where most people feel it, right?
00:08:24.000And a lot of the political debates that are popular in Washington Again, these pocketbook issues are really, I think, what drive voters, particularly if they feel like the president is the one that's causing it.
00:08:37.000If his policies are causing it, then I definitely think it's a political liability.
00:08:41.000And I think that's why he responded so sarcastically in saying, oh, no, it's a great, it's an asset.
00:08:48.000I've been feeling pretty good lately, you know, watching watching Joe Biden gaffe and like poop his pants and kind of stuff like that.
00:08:54.000Because, you know, when he says stuff like this, but regular people are experiencing the problems, it shows like it's like you said, the debates in Washington.
00:09:08.000Like a few years ago, the way I described it was like, there's this giant maelstrom, this big whirlpool that we're all stuck in, but it's shrinking and spinning faster and faster, and we're getting ejected from it.
00:09:16.000Like, regular people were getting thrown from the mainstream over having questions, being like, hey, I don't understand this particular policy while you're doing it.
00:09:27.000Now it feels like the political elite and the establishment media types are in this tiny little section, spinning in circles, screaming at the top of their lungs.
00:10:26.000So, I mean, I had a recent article in The Blaze where I talked about COVID-19 has unleashed a new era in sort of American political and social life.
00:10:36.000So, you know, we obviously, early on in our country's history, we had a colonial period and Civil War, Reconstruction, Jim Crow.
00:10:49.000And I think the, as I call it, the unholy trinity of big government, big business, big media have completely inverted our political system.
00:10:59.000So instead of them seeing themselves as serving our interests, They see us as serving their interests.
00:11:07.000And that's why they get so upset and so vicious whenever any of us have the audacity to question them.
00:11:14.000So it's no longer the consent of the governed.
00:11:20.000As you said, if you do question us, oh, you must be all right.
00:11:22.000It's just like, no, I just want to know why my two-year-old has to wear a mask while you guys go out and drink margaritas and, you know, go to Taibo maskless.
00:11:30.000Like, I think those are legitimate questions, but I mean, you see this from Washington every day and the craziest part of it is how many liberals, leftists, self-proclaimed progressives have lined up behind it.
00:11:44.000Like, I'm from a generation, like I look at sports, where the media, particularly sports media, would reflexively take the side of players over management regardless of the dispute.
00:11:58.000But now you got guys like Stephen A. Smith is saying, No, Kyrie Irving is a bad teammate.
00:12:38.000There was like, Oprah had this party and then it was so against the establishment COVID narrative that he started mocking Oprah and going after Oprah.
00:12:45.000I'm like, wow, man, that's pretty brazen to go after Oprah.
00:12:49.000Cause she's like, you know, she's the queen of culture or was for a long time.
00:12:54.000So you can see where he he's finally found his line.
00:12:57.000It's not, you know, Chucking little people through the air is not, you know, getting strippers on TV to talk about the types of things they do in the bedroom.
00:13:06.000It's if you disobey Dr. Fauci's COVID, you know, mandates and you're a terrible person, you're a terrible American, and I hope you die.
00:13:14.000And it's like, where did all of this come from?
00:13:16.000I think he's a good example of like someone panicking.
00:13:19.000It's less about like, I'm angry you're not following the mandates.
00:13:22.000It seems to be more he's about, I'm afraid of getting sick.
00:13:25.000And so he's like in this frazzled, wild state of yelling at people to do what they're told.
00:13:44.000But we're being led by the anxious, the fearful, the neurotic, the docile, the gelded, and they're the ones telling everybody else what needs to be done.
00:13:56.000Is this because of generational wealth?
00:14:00.000I think, I think it's a cultural issue.
00:14:02.000I think that, um, we've been too comfortable for too long.
00:14:06.000You know, uh, you, you've got the concept of the fourth, the fourth, the fourth turning, you know, stress out generational theory.
00:14:10.000You've got, you know, strong men make good times.
00:14:13.000All that's, you know, those aren't familiar with it.
00:14:15.000Strong men make good times, good times, make weak men, weak men, make hard times, hard times, make strong men.
00:14:20.000I think we're just in the weak men phase where you've got like the Try Guys on Buzzy with no testosterone.
00:14:25.000And I mean, it's, but I'm not saying to be mean to him, you know what I mean?
00:14:30.000Yeah, so I was thinking about this too.
00:14:32.000I did a segment on the low testosterone generation because, you know, there's stories going back 10, 20 years about how the testosterone levels are rapidly declining.
00:14:42.000They think it might be the plastics leaching into food or something.
00:14:58.000There's phytoestrogens in soy, and there's two arguments about this.
00:15:03.000One is that phytoestrogens being weaker than estrogen will block your estrogen receptors and actually have a lower impact as opposed to your natural estrogen, because men have estrogen in their body.
00:15:14.000When you're getting constantly slammed and inundated with a weaker form of investor and it could have an impact.
00:15:18.000So I don't exactly know the reason, but I will tell you, I think that's a contributing factor to an overly feminized society, which results in people unwilling to take the risks required to fix a broken system.
00:15:31.000That kind of mentality or imbalance results in despotism.
00:15:36.000It results in, you know, someone like Joe Biden.
00:15:38.000It results in these leaders that say, you know, you can't challenge them.
00:15:44.000You can't take the risk because, you know, this is my personal view based on, you know, research and things like that.
00:15:52.000You know, men, this is a fact, men tend to take more risks.
00:15:56.000So if you have a well-balanced society between men and women, you know, the feminine, the masculine, then you're going to be well off because the guy, you're going to get some crazy guy who's like, I say we jump off the cliff and then try and I'll try and grab onto a guy who's got a parachute.
00:16:08.000And then you might have a woman who's gonna be like, I think that's a crazy risk.
00:16:12.000And then maybe talk the guys back a little bit from going too crazy.
00:16:14.000But now we're getting just, it's imbalanced.
00:16:16.000It's shifting all into the feminine, which is, it's toxic femininity.
00:16:21.000So you'll end up with people who are unwilling to challenge system unwilling to speak out they don't want to go against social order It's too risky stay the course and the storm will all blow over I've got this feeling that I really have a lot of respect for a self-made man someone that comes from either medium or low means and then makes a great empire or a career and that's where I feel like with generational wealth that Weak young men are getting, inheriting a large amount of power.
00:16:48.000And then because they have the power, they have the TV channel and little kids then see them and think that's normal.
00:16:54.000And they don't, they're too afraid to take any risks.
00:16:56.000They don't want to lose what they've had their whole life.
00:16:58.000Whereas when you come from less than nothing or like not much, there's nothing really to lose.
00:17:07.000Like if you look at this show, you know, I don't care.
00:17:09.000I mean, I definitely think there's something to that, right?
00:17:13.000The generation that builds the wealth and hands it on to the next generation, like that next generation, sometimes they can manage and steward, but by the time you get to the third or fourth, I mean, they're all about squandering it because they didn't work for it.
00:17:28.000I remember, again, the very first column I wrote for The Blaze, I juxtaposed, and this was sort of, you know, swimming in the mainstream of culture, I juxtaposed an artist like Megan Thee Stallion, right?
00:17:40.000She had a song with Cardi B, WAP, and that was a big thing in conservative circles and how vulgar it was.
00:17:46.000And then I said, here you have Megan Thee Stallion, so stallions are uncut horses, wild, uncontrollable.
00:17:54.000And then you have the cultural geldings, all of the men who would be too afraid to say anything critical about Megan Thee Stallion in public.
00:18:03.000And these are guys who Again, oftentimes work for corporate media and academia.
00:18:08.000If somebody like me says, look, I don't want my daughter ingesting this crap because it's garbage.
00:18:12.000And if the 90s, particularly as it relates to hip hop, was about keeping the boys out of the gangs, then the 2000s and the 2020s are going to be keeping the girls off of OnlyFans.
00:18:22.000And I know exactly the type of men who would come up and criticize me for that.
00:18:50.000And then you get about slightly more millennial men are Republican.
00:18:55.000I think the men, for the most part, not completely.
00:18:59.000I think there's two parent trees in the Democrat voter base.
00:19:03.000The ignorant, default liberal types, and the exploitative.
00:19:08.000I think the right and the Republicans have that exploitation as well, but whatever the cultural right tends to be right now, it's an eclectic bunch of varying political ideologies.
00:19:17.000But among the Democrats, you've got people who are like, I'm gonna say whatever I have to to this woman so that she comes over to my apartment and gives me what I want.
00:19:25.000And so they're just like, yeah, whatever you say.
00:19:33.000And then you've got people who are willing to challenge, go against the grain, risk things, risk their careers, and they're going to speak up and say no.
00:19:40.000But that's why I said there's an imbalance, because the willingness to take risks for the betterment of society is really low.
00:19:51.000You can order pizza off the internet, you know what I mean?
00:19:54.000I think it really has to do with too much free time.
00:19:57.000We have too much free time because we have disposable income, and when we have free time, we get into our own heads, we become very self-centered, we become very narcissistic, and if you don't have children, and if you don't have fulfilling familial relationships, you're going to kind of fall apart, because humans demand that kind of structure.
00:20:13.000Like, we really don't do well without one another.
00:21:11.000This is a mainstream corporate press show, Bill Maher.
00:21:15.000Bill Maher's always been kind of, you know, he's always been in line with the left and the culture war, but he's been, he challenges that every so often, but he's late to the party, he gets things wrong.
00:21:27.000First and most important thing, good news.
00:21:29.000Regular liberals who watch Bill Maher are now cheering for this.
00:21:34.000When Barry Weiss has said that what's happening to our kids will be seen as a moral crime, you know, I'm done with this, everyone's clapping and cheering.
00:21:41.000Bill Maher opened the show by saying, he called the vaccine a virtue signal.
00:21:47.000He said, your first dose, it's like, I can't remember the exact joke, but he was like, it comes in three doses, your first series, your booster, and your virtue signal.
00:21:54.000And then everyone, they laugh or whatever.
00:21:57.000And so I'm like, this is really, really good.
00:21:58.000And I want to make sure that's clear to everybody, because I'm going to criticize a bit of everybody.
00:22:03.000It's good that we're watching regular people wake up to this stuff.
00:22:05.000It's good that we're seeing people realize you've got to do something about this.
00:22:09.000We can't just sit back and let the country fall apart.
00:22:11.000The stores are going... It's been two years, right?
00:22:15.000But we've had this conversation a year ago.
00:22:17.000We had this conversation a year and a half ago.
00:22:22.000To all of the independent media types, the podcasters, the Twitter posters, the journalists who have listened to this show, have listened to Steven Crowder, who have listened to Jimmy Dore.
00:22:33.000Jimmy Dore and Crowder talked about these things before we even did.
00:22:37.000So let's realize, for one, we were all right.
00:23:05.000No, no, no, we need to start acting like the conversations we've already had.
00:23:08.000Again, like Jimmy Dore, Crowder, Sticks, Hex and Hammer, all these other independent channels, I've already had a long time ago.
00:23:13.000And when you go out to a restaurant, when you go out to, I'll tell you this, there was that big breaking story where the CDC lady, I think it was, said, there's a difference between dying from COVID and dying with COVID.
00:24:06.000When those 1,200 public health experts signed the letter that said, protests for racial justice are A-OK during COVID at a moment when people still couldn't even go to work.
00:24:17.000And then at the end of the letter, it says, this is not to be confused for support of protests that are against lockdown measures.
00:24:27.000And I think a lot of people were done at that point too.
00:24:30.000So if you're a sheep, you're sitting there being like, shout out to Ethan Klein, H3 podcast, when he said, you don't even got to think about it.
00:25:28.000Personally, I think people need to, if they're cognizant of what's going on, speak up and stand up.
00:25:35.000There are a lot of people who don't view it that way, and maybe don't have the ability to see what's really going on, and maybe just think to themselves, look, I wake up, I go to work, I try to feed my kids, I come home, I turn the TV on, they tell me what's up, and that's all I care about.
00:25:49.000I mean, there are instances, for instance, right?
00:25:54.000So in the scriptures, it talks about, you know, Jesus is the good shepherd.
00:25:58.000But part of what pastors are supposed to do is shepherd their flocks, right?
00:26:03.000So in that context, I get, you know, a shepherd who feeds his sheep.
00:26:09.000But in that context, the shepherd is working under the authority of the good shepherd And they're feeding from a source that provides all the nutrients that any of the sheep would need, right?
00:26:30.000We have shepherds in wolf's clothing, which is worse than a sheep in wolf's clothing.
00:26:36.000Because if you get a sheep in wolf's clothing, The wolf may get one or two sheep before the rest scatter, but a shepherd in wolf's clothing will take all of them over the hill and none of them will know the difference.
00:26:55.000Yeah, sheep pretending to be the wolf.
00:26:57.000I think we actually have sheep in shepherd's clothing.
00:27:02.000I think we've gone so long without a real shepherd, and this could be even religious as well.
00:27:06.000We've separated ourselves from any real leadership that finally one sheep looked around and was like, yo, the shepherd gets to eat whenever he wants, he gets to go wherever he wants.
00:28:12.000Now you go turn on TV and watch a sports football game or something, beer commercials, car commercials, get drunk, buy a car.
00:28:19.000So like, it's not healthy to check out, especially when people that check out and then think they have some political clout by putting a sign in their yard and yelling at their neighbor about like, If you're gonna check out, check out.
00:28:30.000I guess to clarify what I was saying before about some people just don't mind being sheep and there's something wrong with it, is when you have a good shepherd, then your flock is protected and they're doing what they gotta do.
00:28:38.000This country though, it was definitely founded on like, don't ever give up your rights.
00:28:44.000Right, but I'm not saying to give up your rights.
00:28:46.000I'm saying, you know, there are people who, I love using the example of like a carpenter, it's like a regular trade job, or an electrician.
00:29:15.000I can actually, I've had electricians talk about wiring up crazy devices and supercharging remote control cars and doing really awesome stuff because they know how to do it.
00:29:24.000So they need to rely on someone who's at the forefront of the conflicts in the world, the culture battles, journalists and politicians who are going to say, you got my back in terms of building the infrastructure and I'll make sure you're well informed and prepared for what comes next.
00:29:38.000I can't expect them to be where we are.
00:29:40.000That's what I mean when I say, you know, everybody's a leader in some respect, but when it comes to our actual political, military and media establishment, that leadership is in the gutter.
00:32:05.000It constantly shocks me how quick people are to trust that the government has their best interest in mind because if you know anything about the government you're gonna know a little bit about like MKUltra and some of these other weird projects and creepy suspicious things the government's done.
00:32:18.000I think that people tend to lump that into the whole Alex Jones paranoia basket but these are very real things that have definitely provably happened like the Tuskegee experience Very real.
00:32:26.000Part of the reason there's so much vaccination hesitancy among that community.
00:32:30.000And it's like, I completely understand why they remember what happened.
00:32:33.000That was funny to me because when the New York vaccine mandates were all happening, there were Black Lives Matter activists protesting it.
00:32:40.000And one of the things I heard them say was like, they were like, we remember what the government did to us.
00:32:45.000You're not going to just tell us we have to do this, this, this ish.
00:33:05.000And Kendi actually answered that question.
00:33:06.000Someone asked him about the vaccine mandates.
00:33:09.000And of course, I knew he did what I knew he would do, which was pun.
00:33:11.000You say, oh, well, well, they're really not racist, even though they have a disproportionate impact, because Blacks and Hispanics and Latinx can't get the vaccine.
00:33:24.000Two, that would make it even more racist if you're holding Black and Hispanic people accountable for getting a medical treatment that you admit they don't have access to.
00:33:36.000But Again, I knew that that's where he was going to go because he's making way too much money from, you know, guilty white liberals to criticize them and call them, you know, the forbidden R word.
00:33:47.000But yeah, it's for me, one of the big things, the word that keeps coming back to my mind as it relates to COVID stuff is authority.
00:33:55.000This virus has made the populace give up authority in areas of their private life, their medical lives, that we've never considered before, and the government has been more than willing to take it on.
00:34:11.000So now all of the my body, my body, my choice people are now like, no, you must get the vaccine.
00:34:16.000And if you don't, you're a bad person.
00:34:18.000The people who would never stigmatize anybody for having AIDS or HIV, regardless of what type of personal behavior they engaged in, are now saying no.
00:34:27.000If you get COVID and you're unvaccinated, you should die and you shouldn't get medical treatment.
00:34:30.000So it's basically flipped all of, you know, people's principles right on their head.
00:34:37.000I gotta pull up this article from Post Millennial.
00:35:36.000Like, it's a weird thing that happened because the Karens were the people who were the right wing, you know, the Trumpers, the anti-vaxxers.
00:35:42.000They were the ones who refused to wear the masks in supermarkets.
00:35:57.000Yo, but I just want to, I think, you know, outside of that, are we really at the point where old white liberals think they can just yell Black Lives Matter after hitting a black guy and that, like, that's their strategy?
00:36:11.000I remember a girl driving her car in a crowd of people and it was just like a black girl.
00:36:17.000I don't call people, I don't like calling people black and white firstly because we're not white or black.
00:36:20.000We have skin colors, and it's ridiculous to call people black and white, but this woman was driving her car, and people were like banging on the car, and then they realized that she was a black girl, and they were like, oh, everyone, stop!
00:36:33.000I don't remember exactly how that played out, but that was disturbing, man.
00:36:36.000I mean, this is the signal that we've sent through the culture, I mean, particularly from, you know, summer 2020.
00:36:43.000Is if you say Black Lives Matter or you put up your little sign in front of your house or in your business, it makes people know that you're on the side of the righteous.
00:36:54.000Sometimes I would joke with my wife and I said, to me, again, to borrow some sort of biblical imagery, it's like smearing the blood on the doorpost so that death angel passes over so that people know, look, I'm one of the good ones.
00:37:49.000Like, I would understand if there's like two white people fighting
00:37:53.000and they're filming each other and then one of them yells Black Lives Matter,
00:37:56.000trying to be like, if anybody sees this, I'm on the side of the cult.
00:38:01.000but they hit a black guy and then yelled it and I'm like that makes it ten times worse and That's incredible.
00:38:07.000I think this is like peak virtue signal because they're like, I'm going to actually assault someone who's actually black, but I'm going to say these magic words and nothing bad will happen to me.
00:38:18.000I also think this is one of the unspoken symptoms of long COVID quote unquote.
00:38:23.000The neuroses and the anxiety and the fear have done almost as much damage as, if not more damage than the disease itself, because this is how people act when they see You know, like you just see a face.
00:38:53.000What you're saying is so true about long COVID having this psychological effect, because you can't quantify it.
00:38:57.000Like, you can quantify the bank account and, like, inflation, and we can all agree and point at the number, but with psychosis, you got to just, you see it play out, and you got to kind of call it out when you see it.
00:39:07.000It's going to be unpacking decades of trauma for people.
00:39:11.000And part of this is driven by policy, right?
00:39:13.000Just like the cities that impose the vaccine passport mandates, Now you're putting five to 120 pound year old young women, um, in the position of playing bouncer at a restaurant.
00:39:28.000And if you do that in a city that's big enough, you're going to have some bad reactions because everybody's already on edge.
00:39:33.000So now when I come, you know, let's say I'm out to celebrate, you know, my, my mom's birthday and I'm in a party of 20 and everybody else gets in and now you're saying, sorry, sir, you can't come in because you don't have the passport.
00:39:44.000And I'm just like, well, look here, I got a negative test.
00:39:48.000Now you're setting people up to have very, very bad interactions with people over, again, policies that obviously are not working the way that politicians intended.
00:39:59.000Within my soul, there is this feeling watching this video of these ladies.
00:40:03.000And like to express the pure like, it is a perfect spiral of all of the BS.
00:40:11.000It is the leftist violence, it is the mask Karens, it is the COVID policies, all just compressed into one point, ready to just burst.
00:40:23.000And I'm just like, if there is any video you need to share with your friends and family, people often say to me, Tim, my parents don't want to listen, they don't believe it.
00:40:32.000Just go to PostMillennial, pull this video, pull this out, get the tweet, send it to them and ask them what they think.
00:40:38.000And then they're going to be like, whose side are you on?
00:40:41.000The mask people who are hitting a black guy and yelling Black Lives Matter, who apparently are the Black Lives Matter supporters?
00:40:49.000Or the dude who's refusing to wear the mask?
00:40:53.000What I find fascinating about it is it creates this position where if you're intellectually honest, if you're principled, it's really, really simple.
00:41:02.000I don't care about the race of the guy.
00:41:44.000This is like one other video that I really like to bring up is when the guy was following the woman around the supermarket and he said, is anyone else mad that we all have to wear masks and she isn't wearing hers?
00:43:35.000He's got his channel, and so he was working nearly as much as I was, but, you know, to a certain degree, like, we're also running the business and expanding, so there's a little bit extra, there's a bit more that I do, but now I'm thinking, you know, Luke's on the road, he's gonna be in Florida, he's gonna be working only his morning shift, he's got all that free time at night.
00:43:51.000I can totally understand, at a certain point, you're like, Yo, I've worked so hard endlessly for the past several years.
00:43:58.000For me, I'm like, no, no, no, we gotta keep pushing, we gotta keep fighting because there's things that I care about and things I believe in.
00:44:02.000Bill Maher, however, I can already tell.
00:44:50.000And I think, you know, with a story like that, it's entirely possible he was like, I know it's not true, but this joke's gonna play really, really well with this audience, so let's do it.
00:44:59.000A year later, we're supposed to be happy that, as the ship's sinking, we all got off the ship.
00:45:07.000Try not to be too disrespectful to people who are at least saying something good.
00:45:10.000But there's the Titanic, and it's coming down, and as soon as the iceberg hits, we all said, hey everybody, hit an iceberg, time to get in the lifeboat.
00:45:20.000And everyone else said, shut up, you crazy right-winger conspiracy theorist, there's no iceberg, nothing can sink the Titanic.
00:45:25.000So we're like, so you guys don't care, we'll take this lifeboat?
00:45:38.000And I'm just like, the only reason they're saying it is because it's safe for them to say it now because the polling's in their favor.
00:45:44.000They weren't brave enough to speak out and risk getting canceled or fired or insulted or smeared at the time, but they're willing to say it now.
00:45:50.000So when Bill Maher comes out and he does the virtue signal joke about vaccination, and I'm like, ah, They did market research and found we were right the whole time, and now they're realizing there's an opportunity for him.
00:46:22.000Whoopi Goldberg ridiculously pops off against Bill Maher for anti-mask jokes, tells him to stay out of society.
00:46:28.000Sarah Haines joins in by saying masks will be a permanent new normal, like airport security after 9-11.
00:46:33.000I may never feel comfortable without a mask.
00:46:36.000Even after the Bill Maher-Barry Weiss thing comes out and the liberals are like, we're not going to be doing this, the view is still doubling down.
00:46:43.000But I'm bringing this up for a different reason.
00:46:46.000I want you all to listen very closely.
00:48:00.000How do you know what she was thinking?
00:48:03.000Only because I've seen her work, and I feel like that's what she meant to say and that she misspoke.
00:48:07.000This is a big problem we have in the information space, exemplified by a tweet I made about a rumor going around that a school had put litter boxes in the bathroom for furries.
00:48:19.000I quoted a woman who said that she had heard a school had put litter boxes in their bathroom for kids who identified as furries.
00:48:26.000And I linked to a story where it says Superintendent denies this.
00:48:31.000And everybody interpreted the tweet however they wanted to.
00:48:35.000Many people on the right interpreted it to mean the story was true, and they were doing this.
00:48:40.000Many interpreted it to mean that people are insane for believing it.
00:48:44.000And many interpreted it to believe that I was actually personally believing the story had happened and it was true without fact-checking.
00:48:52.000That's the problem with you, Ian, saying you know what Whoopi Goldberg meant when she said this.
00:48:56.000Oh, I wouldn't, like, risk my life on it, but that's my guess.
00:49:01.000I think she meant to say virus or whatever, but the problem is right now, what would they do if it was like Donald Trump making a statement?
00:49:09.000If Donald Trump came out and said, did you see this?
00:49:12.000Whoopi Goldberg says kids being lost to the vaccine.
00:50:23.000It's like, you know, people are constantly trying to one-up each other, you know?
00:50:26.000So you get some woman who's like, I like the mask.
00:50:29.000You got, remember when, wasn't it David Hogg who was like, I'm not going to take the mask off because people will think I'm a Republican or something like that.
00:50:37.000And that goes to what we've been saying, right?
00:50:41.000It's, I need to do something so that people don't associate me with the wrong people.
00:50:47.000And if that is what is driving any part of your public health response, We're in trouble because I mean, one of the things I heard and again, COVID has just scrambled everything in American sort of political life.
00:51:00.000It's when it first hit, why isn't Trump doing enough?
00:51:04.000Then it's Trump is a, is a, is a, you know, fascist and a dictator and he's going to do too much.
00:51:11.000And now it's I want, I want the government to tell me what to do, who I can have at my house on the 4th of July or Thanksgiving or Christmas.
00:51:19.000And I don't think people know what to think.
00:51:21.000And I do think many brains have been scrambled.
00:51:24.000You know, talking about, you know, I just did this stupid YouTube disclaimer thing, because like, we don't give medical advice here on this show.
00:51:29.000Go speak to your doctor about what's right for you.
00:51:31.000I wonder what people, how people are going to respond when all of this implodes, because it's already starting to implode.
00:51:37.000I mentioned several times, I'm like, I don't even know what the rules are anymore because the media, the news has reported such crazy things.
00:51:43.000Like the New York Times, Israeli study says that repeated vaccination could actually increase your chance of catching the virus or whatever.
00:52:00.000But what happens when regular people who, like Hassan, the lefty streamer, he refers to people as ivermectin truthers.
00:52:08.000How do people who watch him react when all of this implodes and the narrative crumbles and then just we realize once again who was actually corrected?
00:52:18.000Are people going to be mad at YouTube and these big tech companies, feel like they've been deceived?
00:52:22.000When will people start to I know that we do.
00:52:25.000But when will regular people start to look at Twitter and be like, you know, these people are evil, they're manipulating us, they're lying about what's going on, and they're controlling the flow of information?
00:52:34.000Probably never, because, like, we just, last week talked about only 2% of the American population even uses Twitter.
00:53:55.000Yeah, and when you see... I mean, I think there was a study last year that showed that people who identify as liberal and very liberal overestimate the number of police shootings of unarmed black men.
00:54:08.000I mean, the very liberal thing is like between a thousand and ten thousand, so... Somebody did a video, I can't remember who it was, it might have been Vice, where they went around L.A.
00:54:16.000and asked people How many black people do you think have been killed by police in the past year?
00:54:21.000They went to the Venice skate park and these these skater guys they were like 500, 1000, 10,000.
00:54:44.00045% of police shooting fatalities are white people, typically white men.
00:54:49.000But if you read, if you were someone that came from Mars, you would think only black men get shot by the cops and only white blondes go missing.
00:54:58.000Now what if you're a 10-year-old in 2008, you're on Facebook and BuzzFeed pops up and the only thing you see in your Facebook feed for 10 years is police brutality videos.
00:55:09.000Now it's 2018, you're voting in the midterm for the first time and you're probably screaming like, Cops are going around hunting people down.
00:55:18.000I mean, we have been primed and unless you're a person who can think critically, this is where being a sheep is so dangerous.
00:55:27.000Because if you just take the word of CNN or MSNBC or even for that period of time, the whole Colin Kaepernick thing was hot.
00:55:35.000ESPN, you are being fed by low information journalists, quote
00:55:39.000unquote, and political analysts and commentators. And what you're being fed basically a synthetic grass. And if you
00:55:46.000feed a sheep, synthetic grass, they're gonna die. Period.
00:55:50.000Yeah, man. I think about this, the social media problem. I I really do think Twitter is one of the biggest causes of these problems, of everything we're experiencing.
00:56:01.000The rapid spread of decontextualized information, whether intentionally false or otherwise.
00:56:17.000And so what could happen now is I guarantee you there will be people who will clip her saying that and they're going to be like breaking Whoopi Goldberg criticizes the vaccine.
00:56:27.000And it makes sense to me that that would be a kind of a Freudian slip.
00:56:30.000But at the same time, I really hate when people assume they know what other people are thinking.
00:56:34.000Because we don't even understand what we're thinking ourselves half the time.
00:56:37.000Communicating is not perfect between humans.
00:56:40.000Talking, saying the things that you actually think is very challenging.
00:56:43.000So I'll give her the benefit of the doubt a little bit, but the fact that no one corrected her on this, somebody should've been like, no, the dying of the virus.
00:56:57.000Nobody wanted to speak up and be like, Whoopi, Whoopi, did you mean... Did you... Like, when you said Wolf and Shepard's mother, I was like, wait, did you mean... I'm like, hey, we're having a real conversation.
00:58:23.000I think it's clear it's a benefit, and that's why they're trying so hard to censor everything and control the flow of information.
00:58:28.000Because you want to induce yourself with information, whether it's right or wrong, and a strong mind can wield all sorts of information without believing it, and that you have to, but you can also be brainwashed.
00:58:40.000Even the strongest of minds, if you induce yourself with enough false narrative, it can start to change you.
00:58:49.000I mean, for me, part of this goes to the importance of education, right?
00:58:56.000Starting for kids, but I see education as equal parts scholarship and discipleship, but also a lifelong process, not something that ends in 12th grade when you turn 18.
00:59:07.000So part of it, I just have a number of filters, right?
00:59:10.000I always try to get a comment in context.
00:59:13.000So whenever possible, I look for a longer stream of thought if it's a clip video.
00:59:19.000I always, I have different sort of areas of absolute truth.
00:59:24.000So no matter how many people line up and tell me that Caitlyn Jenner is a woman, I'm not going to call a person who is a biological male a she.
00:59:34.000And I know that may get me banned from certain platforms, but it is what it is.
00:59:38.000So I'm just trying to keep my feet firmly planted on the ground and not lose track of reality.
00:59:44.000Because when people control what you say, inevitably they will control what you think.
00:59:49.000Which brings us to our next story from Fox Business.
00:59:55.000Trump Truth Social developing content moderation practices to ensure family-friendly community.
01:00:02.000That actually sounds like it will be more strict than Twitter.
01:00:05.000And they go on to say that they're going to be using the Hive artificial intelligence.
01:00:10.000TMTG is partnering with Hive, a Series D startup providing automated solutions through cloud-based artificial intelligence for understanding images, videos, and text content.
01:00:19.000Hive's technology provides automated content moderation across video, image, text, and audio.
01:00:24.000I'm gonna tell you what, it ain't gonna work.
01:00:27.000Donald Trump is going to have a more censorious platform than Twitter and many of these other websites.
01:00:43.000Does Donald Trump think, does Jason Miller of Getter think, people are going to be leaving Twitter, which is censorious, to go to other platforms that are censorious in other ways?
01:01:44.000They spun up Mastodon, but it's Hive because then they can tack on proprietary stuff onto a free software network and you've got an amalgamation of free code and private code.
01:03:56.000I will say that it looks like it's coming down to be a choice between being censored from the left or being censored from the right.
01:04:02.000And I do think that it would be much better if we did have some form of Federated system where we could each go and block the people that we don't like but everybody is allowed to say exactly what they think I don't know if we're gonna be able to attain true free speech even on the Fediverse But we could at least try it's gonna be better than this.
01:04:18.000This just looks like a cop-out to me Yeah, and I mean, I mean I think as you know as flawed as Twitter is it one thing I like about is it does allow for conversations between people with Very, very different, you know, political views.
01:04:32.000And at least we, even if the rules on censoring seem arbitrary at times, I think it's one of those things we've just become more used to them.
01:04:42.000And I think that's a different psychological response than going into a new platform with rules that even the people who create the platform can't articulate in a consistent fashion.
01:04:52.000You know, I think we gotta be real about online platforms and moderation and stuff, and I think Ian probably understands this.
01:04:59.000There's a reason why Twitter bans people.
01:05:03.000The left, so first I'll get political, the left cannot tolerate, in a general sense, disagreement and aggressive argument, discussion.
01:05:13.000It causes them to, Will Wheaton's a great example.
01:05:15.000He's like, if Alex Jones is allowed to be here saying words, I'm gonna quit!
01:05:19.000And it's like, okay, well that's too much, bye, quit.
01:05:22.000But when they say things like, hey, someone's harassing me, then Twitter's like, ugh.
01:05:27.000I feel like Twitter and these other companies look at their system and they say, what level of moderation can we implement that will maintain the most amount of left-wing users and minimally lose right-wing users?
01:05:41.000I think their whole thing is like, how can we maximize user base?
01:05:44.000Because conservatives are willing to stay on the platform even through censorship, they know they can censor the right, but the left isn't, so they know they have to censor the right, not the left.
01:05:51.000But I will say, there's a reality to Twitter and censorship.
01:05:55.000I don't really check my replies anymore.
01:05:58.000Because I know it's just full of insane, psychobabble garbage.
01:06:04.000But I know that most of the time, it's like, yo...
01:06:08.000If I tweet something and then I look at the responses of which there's going to be hundreds, sometimes even thousands, it is going to be incoherent, out of context, rage, narcissism, insults.
01:06:34.000But people are following me, and I know that I can tweet something sometimes as a joke, and I'll still get just thousands of hateful responses.
01:06:42.000I'm gonna be honest, I don't want to use that platform.
01:06:45.000Jack Dorsey and the people at Twitter know that, so they said, okay, we gotta start banning these people.
01:07:09.000And what would happen on Twitter is, A bunch of people would keep reporting a group of 100 people and be like, they're harassing me, they're harassing me.
01:07:18.000And they weren't, according to the terms.
01:07:19.000But because they would keep getting reported, these same people, Twitter will end up banning those people to placate the people that are complaining about a misrepresentation of the terms.
01:07:29.000I was in a Twitter debate with a self-described black radical feminist professor.
01:07:38.000We got into the debate because at one point she was, this was around, you know, she was on a show with Marc Lamont Hill and they were talking about, you know, Texas abortion law and she described herself as pro-family.
01:07:48.000Now, having been familiar with her work, I was like, that's not the case.
01:07:52.000She's a person who sort of celebrates the decline of the nuclear family, right?
01:07:56.000So, at one point, she said, the black community does not need nuclear families to thrive.
01:08:04.000And boy, did that set off a bunch of people.
01:08:07.000Now, to be fair, a lot of the responses were talking about her appearance, and I don't get down like that.
01:08:13.000But, when she finally responded to me, she was like, you know, black men say that black women should stick up for them, and you should see all the hateful replies, and people like you, you knew what you were doing when you did that, and you like it.
01:08:25.000And I was like, I was just responding on substance, but I think a lot of times what the left does is they will take those types of ad hominem attacks and use that as a reason to not reply to the sort of substantive issue that's on the table.
01:08:42.000The other thing I wanted to say, I think Ian, you bring up a really good point.
01:08:45.000And I think this is a point that I see articulated on the new right, as I would call it.
01:08:50.000And that point is, to what extent do American corporations owe any sense of loyalty to sort of the body politic, the nation in general?
01:09:02.000Because I think after decades of globalism and free trade, a lot of people are starting to question whether or not companies like Apple and Amazon and Google are really serving the interests of our country because they are quick to criticize, you know, Americans, In the middle of the country, Trump voters, but are quiet as church mice when it comes to, you know, any type of criticism or perceived criticism of the CCP.
01:09:29.000So I think that's a question that's bubbling up.
01:09:32.000And I think there's a way for companies to feel like, no, we're American companies.
01:09:38.000We serve American citizens without it being fascistic, as you were saying.
01:09:43.000Well, so one of the components that we've discussed in the show, one of the components of Nazism, Or fascism was the lucrative merger of corporation and state, but it was cultural enforcement.
01:09:54.000It was when the entirety of the country was so, you know, in line with nationalistic fervor, the company would have to fall in line or risk being just cancelled, as it were, right?
01:10:46.000Look, I think there's a fine line between... I think there's a decent amount of room in between fascism and communism.
01:10:55.000We can very much be in the middle where we're like, our companies should not be selling us out to foreign adversaries.
01:11:02.000We also don't expect you to fall in line through cultural enforcement to mass produce for the nation or whatever, right?
01:11:09.000So I'd have a slightly different take, right?
01:11:12.000Even if it's not the sort of the mass production for the nation, I remember back when, you know, Citizens United, that decision came down from SCOTUS, and you know, Mitt Romney famously said that corporations are people too, and he got hammered by Democrats.
01:11:26.000But now, the political ties have turned to the point where Democrats know that big business is in their back pocket.
01:11:33.000So when Delta criticizes the state of Georgia for its, you know, voter laws, or when, you know, they, they, different companies, you know, basically all the fortune 500 companies sign up or sign on in support of the Equality Act, or when they say, we're not going to go to this particular state because of its abortion laws.
01:11:52.000I think big business has inserted itself into some of these conversations, our political conversations.
01:11:59.000Both in terms of trying to move the needle in the in the left direction, and as we've seen it for vaccine mandates as the enforcement arm of the federal government.
01:12:11.000So the company say, okay, we know the feds can't mandate that everyone get a shot.
01:12:16.000But we think that we can force our workers to do it.
01:12:20.000So the federalists say, Hey, we want the companies to do X and then we'll take on that responsibility to get, you know, our, our, our employees as a term, as a condition of employment to do what it is that the federal government wanted them to do.
01:12:35.000I'm worried about what you're talking about.
01:12:38.000This is a good conversation about corporations and what they owe the country.
01:12:41.000They're based in the United States, but for all I know, Amazon, Google, and Apple are about to pick up and move to China, their headquarters, and just say, bye-bye.
01:12:52.000It's all about, does the CEO want to stay American at this point?
01:12:56.000I mean, maybe they owe the shareholders.
01:12:58.000I don't think it's part of the corporate charter that they have to stay in the United States.
01:13:02.000Monsanto moved its headquarters, got bought by Bayer, basically merged with Bayer,
01:13:06.000and now moved their headquarters to, I think, England.
01:13:08.000I'm not sure where they're at now, but they've been— Google's headquartered in Ireland, I think, right?
01:13:12.000Fiscally smart, but obviously... These are not American companies.
01:13:17.000They were started here off of our taxes, our roads, our blood, sweat, and tears, and then they up and relocate.
01:13:26.000So you know what really drives me crazy is when the left is like, Amazon paid no taxes or whatever, and I'm like, I feel like that's kind of a distraction.
01:13:39.000The bank accounts in Panama that are popping up all over that apparently belonged to Putin's buddy and like all these really and that's the kind of the story that came up and like no one would touch it.
01:14:48.000And I think where the companies are located is one thing, right?
01:14:51.000A lot of people, particularly both probably both right and left, would love to see more goods, whether it's PPE, whether it's microchips produced in the United States, you know, bring them to Baltimore or, you know, Chicago, wherever.
01:15:05.000But I think the other piece of it is that these corporations insert themselves into our political conversations, oftentimes against the will of the voters, like the voters in Georgia elected a legislature and a governor to address their issues.
01:15:23.000Where are all these companies coming and saying, no, we stand against, you know, what the voters in Georgia want to do.
01:15:29.000And to punish them, we're going to move the MLB All-Star game from Georgia to Colorado.
01:15:36.000And I think the extent to which these companies, as I said, insert themselves into our political process, that is one of the things that I find to be very, very, very disturbing.
01:16:14.000When it comes to Truth Social, now we're talking, it's a social network that has some American, he's trying to show us, it's got American values.
01:16:22.000But when I look at it and I see a private proprietary network that is blatantly going to start censoring, I just don't get the American values in it.
01:16:29.000You can slather it with an American flag, but for me, unless you're going to make that code base free, then it's not really a free network.
01:16:37.000Well, yeah, and the other thing, too, is that one of the core tenets of American value is the freedom of speech.
01:16:42.000It's literally in our First Amendment.
01:16:44.000So I think that it is perhaps a little bit disingenuous to plaster the American flag.
01:16:48.000I do think it's just a marketing tactic because they know their base, whatever.
01:17:23.000And I mean, it's not just the companies.
01:17:26.000I remember a couple of weeks ago when I was doing research for a column, I saw that the head of the AFL-CIO, I think was basically either explicitly or sort of tacitly taking the position of the administration on vaccine mandates.
01:17:40.000And I was like, this is one of the largest unions in the country.
01:17:43.000They should be advocating on behalf of their workers, but In many respects, the Democratic Party today is much more responsive to the needs of the board of the New York Times than the board of, you know, major trade unions.
01:17:58.000It's just a different day and age, and I think where you see the companies going, you're going to see all these other supporting institutions go as well.
01:18:08.000They were an American company based in Missouri, but then they got bought by Bayer, who is a German company based in Germany.
01:18:14.000I don't, you know, I was watching the Joe Rogan episode with James Lindsay, and they start talking about Vanguard and BlackRock and State Street, stuff like that.
01:18:25.000And then I'm just sitting there thinking, like, you know, before I heard that episode, I was kind of worried about what was going to happen to this show because, you know, Ian's over here talking about Monsanto, we're talking about, you know, Google's tax holdings and Amazon, and we have, you know, we have deplorables on this show frequently.
01:18:41.000And then we get swatted a couple times, we get DDoS attacks.
01:18:44.000I'm like, sooner or later, they're going to try and stop us from having this conversation, however they can.
01:18:49.000But then I saw that Rogan episode and I was like, they lost.
01:19:17.000It's where the conversations are actually happening.
01:19:20.000And if the conversations in the media are faltering, they're not breaking through, give it five, ten years and they won't be a part of any conversation.
01:19:29.000It's only a matter of time before You know, you're going to be turning on the news.
01:19:33.000Actually, Joe Rogan already sets the news cycle in a lot of ways based on the things he talks about.
01:20:53.000It starts looking really, really good, and then all of a sudden it's like, oh, the mail-in ballots came in late.
01:20:59.000People need to track this, because in 2018, I was looking at everything going on in the media, and I said, I feel like the Republicans are going to win.
01:23:04.000Yeah, you got to pull this really tight because if you leave any gaps for any kind, not for fraud necessarily, but for human disorganization is something that we have to factor in.
01:23:21.000I never knew how frail our institutions were until this crackdown.
01:23:25.000You know what's really crazy to me is like, as you get older, and when I was younger, I look at these big systems, the CEOs, the politicians and the things they do, and it felt like everything was very formal and planned and strategic.
01:23:39.000And you know, the games I would play with my friends where it's like, we're gonna play freeze tag and the rule is, you know, if you're touching the slide, it's glue so they can't tag you and like, you just make these rules up and you implement it.
01:23:50.000Now that I'm older, I'm like, man, that's really is everything.
01:23:54.000It's like when you when you look at the Congress, like when we had Marjorie Taylor Greene here, and she's like, you go into Congress, and there's like five Democrats and five Republicans, and they're voting on bills by grumbling and groaning.
01:24:04.000And like, no one's actually listening to or reading these bills.
01:24:07.000Yeah, I was like, yo, it's no different than a bunch of kindergartners being like, I get to play with the football because I have brown hair and brown hair goes first.
01:25:11.000We need fewer laws because fewer laws will inevitably or more laws will make more criminals.
01:25:17.000So, you know, I've, I've heard, you know, black folks talk about this for years in terms of, um, the number of, you know, it's, it's illegal to sell loose cigarettes or it's illegal to, you know, panhandle or vend or do all sorts of other things in the city.
01:25:33.000But the more laws you create, the more opportunities you have for police to come and enforce them.
01:25:37.000And I think for a lot of people who may not have necessarily cared about, you know, loosey laws in New York City, they certainly care about having to wear masks outdoors at their kids' football games.
01:25:47.000And when you see a lady getting tased because she's not wearing a mask outdoors, it'll make you think, okay, do we really want to give, you know, our elected officials more power?
01:25:57.000I understand new conservatives who say we just want smaller government.
01:26:00.000Too much government is causing too many problems in our lives.
01:26:03.000But one thing I hope all Americans do is to stop thinking that the people we elect to Congress, whether on a federal level or a state level, are going to fix our problems.
01:26:17.000That's one of the biggest problems, I think.
01:26:19.000And it just goes from, well, this party will fix it.
01:26:23.000One of the things I like about, you know, what I see in terms of the decentralization of information and people starting new businesses is that, you know, small seems to be better.
01:26:34.000I love to see people, particularly young people who say, you know what, I want to start a family.
01:26:39.000I don't want to be a wage slave for my entire life.
01:26:41.000You know, I think getting back to those first order things, family and church and institutions and community, is one of the ways we come out of this, because if we put all of our hopes in elected officials, we've seen that they're going to let us down every time.
01:27:00.000You know, I think watching the de-religiousification of the country, the increase in secularism, it's not even a question of faith to me.
01:27:14.000I think, you know, there's obviously many people who are Christian will argue that, you know, faith in God is a requirement or, you know, for the religious reason.
01:27:59.000I think you should talk to Seamus about that.
01:28:00.000I mean, I definitely felt that in my own personal life when my wife and I, we found a new church, you know, close to where we live now.
01:28:13.000And at that point, you know, she was going in for a surgery.
01:28:18.000Not anything major, but it was still, you know, she was going to be incapacitated for a couple of days and people just said, hey, what do you all need?
01:28:25.000We'll bring food by, we'll send you gift cards and let us know if you need help with the kids.
01:28:30.000And that community really does mean a lot.
01:28:34.000So again, as a believer, a church's doctrine is important.
01:28:37.000What it actually believes about the Bible is important.
01:28:40.000But it's also having that community and that fellowship is really, really important.
01:28:45.000So you have people there with you when it's time to grieve if somebody loses a loved one, and you have people there with you when it's time to celebrate.
01:28:53.000Like one of the couples, they just had a baby boy.
01:28:55.000And that's one of the things that we celebrate.
01:29:25.000And he just talks about how people, you know, millions of people are traveling on the subways of New York every day and they never talk to each other.
01:29:56.000I mean, universities perhaps, but it's not the same.
01:30:00.000And a lot of the kids at the universities, particularly if there's like NYU or Columbia, they're not even New Yorkers, right?
01:30:07.000I do think technology has accelerated that process.
01:30:12.000You know, everybody gets on, head in the phone, headphones on.
01:30:17.000But even as a kid growing up in New York and taking the subway, you're right.
01:30:20.000You definitely weren't talking to people, especially people you didn't know.
01:30:24.000I get on, I eat my beef patty, I drink my Snapple, and mind my own business.
01:30:29.000I think there's such a distinct overlap between the town square and the church.
01:30:33.000For example, I've been going to church for the last, I want to say month, maybe month and a half, and it is incredibly refreshing to be around people who are, they're very nice, they're very generous, they really care about what they believe, they're talking about the mask mandate, and it's a very interesting way to see how this stuff is affecting real life people.
01:30:49.000But you start to get a sense for what you've lost when you no longer have a church backbone.
01:30:54.000I don't really even care if you believe exactly what they believe in.
01:30:56.000I don't think they do either because they will support you.
01:30:58.000They will bring you your casserole if you need help and they'll take care of your kids if you need it.
01:31:03.000I think that's a big part of what we're lacking.
01:31:05.000I've got a feeling it's mostly about the community and the belief in God or whatever.
01:31:09.000Some sort of energy field that's bigger than this hard experience.
01:31:15.000Whether or not it's church, I don't know.
01:31:51.000And always 07, you know, two things, two things really quick.
01:31:54.000Um, Lydia, would you just mention in terms of, you know, sort of the, the church sort of Having an overlap with the public square, it makes me think of what Frederick Douglass talked about in terms of his type of conservatism.
01:32:15.000Being able to sort of express different views.
01:32:19.000And I think social media can play that role at times, which is why censorship is so detrimental is because it stops us from being able to talk about things and share things.
01:32:30.000But the other thing that I thought of, you know, even when you mentioned, you know, a belief in God, I'm sure you all are familiar with Yuri Bezmenov.
01:33:00.000You need something that people will actually be willing to die for because he said nobody's gonna die for two plus two equals four but millions of people have died for the things that they really really really believe and I thought that was a powerful point and I didn't expect to hear it from a you know ex-KGB officer But I think we're seeing, particularly over the course of the pandemic, that belief, family, friends, all of those things are important because you can have all of the material goods, you can have everything delivered by Uber or some other service, but if you don't have family, if you don't have friends, and you don't have anything to believe in that's sort of outside of yourself, it's tough.
01:35:28.000Stan says, if you're going to the Bitcoin event, look up Anthony Pompliano, the best business show, great crypt and business guy, Miami local.
01:35:35.000Yes, I think we've actually reached out to him before about coming on, but he's also a super busy guy.
01:35:40.000So people need to realize, too, it's, you know, these big podcast hosts.
01:35:45.000They have their own shows, you know, like Anthony, I'm pretty sure he does his own show, right?
01:35:49.000So like asking them to, you know, cancel their show to come on ours is just not gonna happen.
01:35:54.000But we're lucky enough that people like Alex Jones are always willing, you know, he's fun.
01:35:58.000He's fun to have around and have a conversation with.
01:36:01.000Ben D says, my house rep held a town hall call today and after I asked a question about misappropriated wasted federal spending my chat function was disabled.
01:37:01.000Waffle Sensei says, Ian, if Luke is returning to Dagobah because he's Skywalker, does that make Tim Han Solo, Lydia Leia, and you Chewbacca?
01:37:31.000What I said last time is, you know, after he was found not guilty and we all celebrated, congratulations, and we were very happy to hear that he was, you know, justice was being served properly.
01:37:39.000Everybody's trying to get him on the show.
01:37:41.000He was at Tucker, and I was like, let's wait until we're a little bit past this, and then we can bring him on to talk politics with his voice.
01:37:48.000I don't like the flavor of the month stuff.
01:37:51.000If we're gonna have him on, it's gonna be for him to talk about his ideas, his experiences, and what he thinks moving forward.
01:38:56.000But then he hangs out for about Christmas, and then he goes down to Florida.
01:38:59.000And I think actually Luke will be back in about a week.
01:39:02.000Yeah, we've got a big show on the 3rd.
01:39:05.000Yeah, so, and we'll see, but then Luke will probably just go back.
01:39:09.000So he'll probably be back just like, you know, periodically.
01:39:11.000And then probably once it starts getting cold again around fall, Luke comes back and sits in the chair.
01:39:16.000But maybe we bring in someone else to fill that Luke chair and then, you know, I don't know, then maybe that's it for Luke because he doesn't want to be on the show anymore.
01:40:12.000I'm not on the, um, sort of the straight news side.
01:40:15.000So, um, I'm not, I'm not sure how that happens.
01:40:19.000I mean, me personally, if, if I make any contention or claim, um, about something that's factual, I certainly make sure that I check it, you know, twice at least.
01:40:31.000So if I make a falsifiable claim, you can be pretty certain that I know it to be true and I have the evidence to back it up.
01:40:37.000So I would hope that everybody else at The Blaze does something similar.
01:40:43.000But I mean, I think that's a general criticism for media and journalism in today's day and age.
01:41:18.000I mean, when I first started, I had one particular thing in mind, but as we move forward, you know, if there are opportunities to, you know, work with local nonprofits that, you know, trying to help K through 12 kids or return to citizens, you know, ex-offenders, you know, single moms, whoever, promote marriage and family and education.
01:44:47.000Carrie Carpenter says, Howard Stern actually said, anyone unvaxxed that gets COVID shouldn't get care from a hospital and should go home and die.
01:46:08.000I mean, these concepts are so, you know, in many ways amorphous that they just get used by whoever wants to use them for whatever purpose they have at the time.
01:46:18.000So when the National Museum for African-American History and Culture came out with this thing about, you know, white culture and whiteness, and it listed the nuclear family and objectivity, I was like, this kind of stuff is trash.
01:46:32.000It's bad sociology and again, I always try to try to reach for something sort of that underlying problem and I think bad sociology flows out of bad theology.
01:46:43.000So when you don't understand the nature of human beings, you're bound to take things that are common across people.
01:46:51.000And ascribe them to whatever characteristic is different in that particular person.
01:47:00.000And to your point, once you go from blackness being something about, you know, phenotype and looks and genetic background to political views, then I think, I mean, the ship has sailed altogether.
01:47:11.000So political blackness, I think is that concept is nonsense.
01:47:47.000Maybe they'll end up doing a much better job and maybe we'll all really enjoy it.
01:47:50.000Yeah, you know, I realized I don't want to slam on it too hard.
01:47:53.000I'm just pointing out warning signs I see in the beginning.
01:47:56.000But same, I went through this with Chris Pavlosky at Rumble.
01:47:58.000There was a time when I was going hard on when Dave sold Locals to Rumble, and I could have turned on Rumble and just been like, the demon, proprietary, bad.
01:48:07.000I don't play, I don't want to play that game because we're all in this together.
01:48:10.000And the people that build Truth Social might end up making a fantastic piece of software with it.
01:48:21.000Getter might be bad in terms of, you know, like, Getter might be worse than Gab in terms of free speech, but they're better than Twitter in terms of free speech.
01:48:28.000So for all of their faults, it's still an increment in the right direction, I guess.
01:48:51.000When I see comments like that, I think about Bill Parcells and what he said about Tony Romo when he first started to get a little bit of shine.
01:49:34.000Anorak says, last I knew the people who think they are animals trapped in the wrong bodies were called Therians, as in Therianthrope or animal person.
01:49:43.000Furries are people who like stuff with anthropomorphic creatures.
01:50:13.000Yeah, it's when they some I saw one being like it but it's when they take their fantasy cosplay and then they want to dictate other people's behavior.
01:50:20.000That's when I take issue with like putting the litter box.
01:50:22.000I don't apparently that didn't happen the litter box in the bathroom.
01:50:26.000Well, there wasn't that it wasn't that a Joe Rogan joke.
01:50:30.000I did hear that- Maybe it wasn't Joe, but some comedian said that they went to a- they were at a show and they went to a- I think it was Rogan.
01:51:19.000No, I mean, like, the point about unsubscribing is just they actually like Ian so much they're making the joke that no one would unsubscribe over Ian's... That's what I'm picking up there.
01:51:27.000I think that guy got triggered by me smacking Truth Social around.
01:51:32.000Some people get really, like, emotionally attached to the red, white, and blue American nationalism storyline.
01:51:37.000I'm just... I just kind of see a bigger picture.
01:51:39.000I'm more than happy to argue with Ian over that kind of stuff, but the issue for this show is we want to get our facts straight and we want to have discordant opinion on the show.
01:51:51.000And so, you know, if your concern was like, Ian is factually incorrect and is consistently like that what someone was pointing out, I'd be like, okay, that is an issue, Ian.
01:51:59.000You got to make sure you read the stuff.
01:52:00.000And we've had those conversations when like, you know, talk to Seamus about religion and Seamus has challenged you.
01:52:27.000You were like, do you think, I can't remember exactly what you said, but you were like, do you think Donald Trump, you know, you know, really something like cares about people?
01:52:34.000And then I can't remember what the guess was.
01:52:35.000They were like, you know, I think he's in it for himself.
01:52:40.000And I was like, you're assuming that I was like, you just literally made up a reason that got you really angry.
01:52:45.000You know, Trump aside, red, white and blue aside, if this code base for truth social was available, free software and all the code was available, I would have no problem.
01:54:26.000And what you do is just like with birds, when birds chirp, if you mimic them back to them, they stop, they hear you, and then like, oh my gosh, he's communicating with us.
01:54:35.000If you start singing back the melody that it's dripping, it starts dripping with you, it'll start playing back to you, and like communicating with you.
01:55:33.000I'm like, I can't believe the stories are so insane that, uh, like they're so like We often get people on the website commenting, saying, I don't like reading fiction.
01:55:44.000And then Shane, who's the author, Shane Cashman, has to say, like, this is a true story.
01:56:05.000Michael Sullivan says, I agree with your point, Tim, but a red, white, and blue theme Truth Social wouldn't exactly clash with the French or Russian flag.
01:57:51.000It was on a conservative show where they played the clips from the Russian recruitment ads, the Chinese recruitment ads, and then the American recruitment ads.
01:58:01.000And for the first two, what you get a sense of is the country saying, sign up to fight for us because we are a country that's worth defending.
01:58:09.000So the point of the ad was about service to country.
01:58:13.000Our ads were, sign up to fight for us because this will be one way that you can self-actualize and pursue your dreams.
01:58:21.000So, like many things in our country, it was infected with sort of the worst types of narcissism.
01:58:28.000And it's all about me, me, me, me, me.
01:58:31.000And I think when you have people who are willing to die for their country because they love it that much, and then you have others that think that their country is sort of a cesspool of racism and white supremacy and patriarchy, you're not going to be fighting on an even playing field.
01:58:47.000You know, the problem I've got right now is I'm willing to die for the ideals that the American Constitution laid out, but I'm not willing to die for this fascist government.
01:59:09.000So they increased the sign-on bonus to like $50,000 recently from up from 40 or something like that.
01:59:15.000So it's, they're just, they're just, that could be inflation, you know what I mean?
01:59:19.000But I think, I don't know how you're going to convince people to want to join into that service, you know?
01:59:24.000And to be clear, I don't think... No country is perfect, obviously.
01:59:28.000I mean, we're talking about Russia and China.
01:59:31.000And even in America's history, there was a time when the Tuskegee Airmen were fighting for a country in which they couldn't even get served in parts of the South when they came home.
01:59:41.000But I think most people thought of it...
01:59:45.000It's both the nation and its government and also the people.
01:59:48.000And we're to the point now where our leaders are constantly telling us that the country that they lead is hopelessly corrupt, racist, and patriarchal.
02:00:00.000All right, everybody, here's what we're going to do.
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02:00:11.000And then I think what we'll do is we're going to recast Luke.
02:00:15.000So we need someone who is a Polish-born American immigrant to America, anarchist, and you got to have blonde hair, blue eyes, and you got to say exacerbate in both.
02:00:33.000It actually would be really funny for the vlog if we did that.
02:00:36.000So we should we should put out a call for anybody who looks who can look and act like Luke and then we'll do a gag where in the vlog we're like, who's gonna be our new Luke Rudkowski?
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02:01:38.000So what Ian was saying about bacteria in the faucet actually made me think because there is a concept called the music of the spheres, which is an ancient scientific idea of there actually being like a music that can be heard in your soul that comes from the planets and all of this interesting stuff.
02:01:53.000So you guys should definitely check that out.