Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - October 11, 2023


Timcast IRL - Biden CONFIRMS Kids Beheaded, Hamas Calls For GLOBAL Jihad On Friday w-Chadwick Moore


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2 hours and 1 minute

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212.45091

Word Count

25,788

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2,104

Misogynist Sentences

15

Hate Speech Sentences

93


Summary

In the wake of Joe Biden s claim that he's seen and confirmed that children have been beheaded in Israel, there's a lot to be said about the possibility that this could be true. We talk to author Chadwick Moore about whether or not this is true, and why he thinks it's likely not.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Joe Biden stated that he's seen and confirmed that children have been beheaded in Israel
00:00:18.000 following the terror attack by Hamas.
00:00:21.000 There are still many people who are skeptical, and I think that's still fair.
00:00:24.000 But at this point, we have CBS News saying that they've gotten word from emergency first responders in Israel, and Joe Biden is making this claim.
00:00:32.000 It is still entirely possible.
00:00:33.000 Just look, I remain skeptical.
00:00:36.000 Skeptical.
00:00:38.000 I mean, it's tough, right?
00:00:41.000 We saw what they did.
00:00:42.000 I watched another video today of Hamas killing civilians.
00:00:46.000 These videos, they exist.
00:00:48.000 You can watch them.
00:00:49.000 Well, certainly some of these videos are probably fake and repurposed.
00:00:52.000 There are some that are undeniable.
00:00:54.000 So when you hear that children have had their heads removed, I mean, the challenge is, it's more believable than any claim we've heard in a long time.
00:01:03.000 Now, with Joe Biden saying it, I'm not about to start believing Joe Biden or the mainstream press, so the only thing I can say to this is, take it for what you will, you decide what you think is or isn't, and that's the best we can do until we have some kind of hard evidence.
00:01:17.000 This is what we've got.
00:01:18.000 We also have one of the leaders and founders of Hamas calling for global jihad on Friday, calling on people to attack, target Jewish people, to target Israel.
00:01:31.000 And so I hope everybody is just paying attention.
00:01:34.000 You don't got to be paranoid, but paying attention because it's getting serious with this stuff.
00:01:38.000 It's kind of freaky.
00:01:39.000 So we're going to talk about that.
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00:03:07.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Chadwick Moore!
00:03:11.000 Hey, great to be here!
00:03:12.000 Thanks for having me on.
00:03:13.000 Yeah, who are you?
00:03:13.000 What do you do?
00:03:14.000 I'm an author.
00:03:15.000 I'm hawking my book, Tucker, which is the official biography of Tucker Carlson, which just came out in August.
00:03:22.000 And I was almost done with the book when his show was taken off the air, so we actually pushed back publication, updated the book.
00:03:28.000 I spent, you know, last year working on this, hanging out with him.
00:03:31.000 I was regular on his show, which is how I knew him.
00:03:34.000 And everyone seems to be really enjoying it.
00:03:37.000 And yeah, that's basically me.
00:03:39.000 I'm also a contributing editor at The Spectator as well.
00:03:42.000 Well, glad to have you.
00:03:42.000 Right on!
00:03:43.000 We also got Hannah-Claire Brimelow hanging out.
00:03:45.000 Hey, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimelow.
00:03:46.000 I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
00:03:48.000 I'm excited for tonight's conversation.
00:03:49.000 Ian's here, too.
00:03:50.000 Hi, everyone.
00:03:51.000 Ian Crossland.
00:03:52.000 Hey, Chadwick, when you were writing that book, did you write about when Jon Stewart went on Crossfire, was it?
00:03:57.000 Man, that was transformative for Tucker.
00:03:58.000 I watched it in real time.
00:03:59.000 I think it was the moment it happened, it was like...
00:04:02.000 It was, like, humiliating, but also he took it seriously, because you could tell he had a respect for John, and, like, he became, like, a pioneer for justice after that.
00:04:08.000 It was incredible.
00:04:10.000 John Stewart did.
00:04:11.000 No, Tucker.
00:04:11.000 Tucker, like, he started to step away from the mainstream and was like, maybe this warmongering isn't necessarily the right way, and he started to think for himself after that.
00:04:18.000 It was really powerful.
00:04:19.000 So behind the scenes, Jon Stewart, he went on that show and he lambasted Tucker Carlson and his co-hosts, saying Crossfire's bad for America, it's just you pundits going back and forth.
00:04:28.000 And they say it killed the show, Crossfire.
00:04:32.000 Crossfire was taken off the air after that.
00:04:33.000 All of America was siding with Jon Stewart.
00:04:34.000 Yes, we hate this fighting.
00:04:36.000 I mean, look at us now, right?
00:04:38.000 After the cameras stopped rolling, John Stewart, who was there to promote his book, said to
00:04:41.000 them, you know, I miscame to town and he trashed you guys and got forwarded to a new station.
00:04:46.000 So I think this worked out well for me.
00:04:47.000 It was all planned.
00:04:49.000 And then John Student, the other guy was Tucker's co-host, whose name slipped my mind right
00:04:53.000 now, wouldn't take, John Student wouldn't take any of their calls after that.
00:04:57.000 He's a total nasty person.
00:05:00.000 I got all that in the book.
00:05:01.000 Yeah, I put all that stuff in the book.
00:05:02.000 We'll talk more about it.
00:05:03.000 Yeah, we'll get Tucker and Jon Stewart in the room together.
00:05:05.000 Jon Stewart wouldn't take my call either when I wanted to interview him.
00:05:09.000 We got Serge on my right.
00:05:10.000 What's happening, brother?
00:05:11.000 I'm excited for another exciting episode of TimCast.
00:05:11.000 Yeah, I'm here.
00:05:14.000 Let's get to it.
00:05:15.000 Here's the story from the New York Post.
00:05:17.000 Biden says he's seen confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children in Israel.
00:05:23.000 President Biden said on Wednesday that he has seen confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children in southern Israel following initial reports that up to 40 babies were butchered over the weekend in homes near the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip.
00:05:34.000 Quote, I never really thought I would see and have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children.
00:05:40.000 I never thought I'd ever.
00:05:41.000 Anyway, that's one way to end that statement.
00:05:44.000 I think we actually have the clip, not here, but here.
00:05:47.000 Let's play this one.
00:05:47.000 I mean, I've been doing this a long time.
00:05:53.000 I never really thought that I would see and have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children.
00:06:04.000 I never thought I'd ever.
00:06:06.000 Anyway, I, uh, but there are countries in the region that are trying to be of some help, including Arab nations.
00:06:17.000 Now, still, with this, I'm not absolutely convinced.
00:06:23.000 And the issue is, one, I'm not about to start believing Joe Biden to do as corrupt as they come.
00:06:28.000 There are special interests that want war in the Middle East.
00:06:31.000 These people despise Donald Trump, and one of the biggest reasons is that Donald Trump was trying to bring peace to the Middle East.
00:06:38.000 Donald Trump was trying to remove U.S.
00:06:39.000 involvement.
00:06:40.000 We talk about how Russia did not invade Ukraine under the Trump administration.
00:06:45.000 They say, yeah, it's because Trump was serving Vladimir Putin.
00:06:48.000 I'm like, yeah, I mean, maybe it's because Donald Trump was like, this is none of our business.
00:06:52.000 We should stop supporting these terror groups, whether directly or indirectly.
00:06:56.000 We should stop invading these countries for oil and mind our own business.
00:06:59.000 And Russia was like, well, if you're not pressing on our borders, we're not, you know, we've got no reason to fight.
00:07:04.000 They get Trump out, they come in, and it's war, it's conflict, it's expansion.
00:07:08.000 And so this, this narrative is extremely shocking.
00:07:12.000 Based on the videos I've seen, it's, It's unfortunately, whether you want to accept it or not, it's easy to believe they did this.
00:07:19.000 That's the scary thing.
00:07:19.000 Right?
00:07:20.000 Well, they also thought Trump was a lunatic.
00:07:22.000 Yeah.
00:07:22.000 They thought he was a loose cannon, they had no idea.
00:07:24.000 There was some meeting that, actually Tucker told me this story, I'm working on this, that Trump leaned over to Vladimir Putin and said, if you invade Ukraine when I'm president, I will nuke this shit out of Moscow.
00:07:33.000 And Putin believed him.
00:07:34.000 And nobody wanted to mess with Trump.
00:07:35.000 They thought he was a total loose cannon, which, of course, I don't think he was at all.
00:07:38.000 But that, I think, is a good impression.
00:07:40.000 It wasn't a bad image to have.
00:07:41.000 It was not a bad image to have.
00:07:42.000 You kind of want the rest of the world, especially your enemies, to think that about your leader for sure.
00:07:46.000 Yeah, for sure.
00:07:47.000 They don't want to be able to predict you.
00:07:48.000 I mean, the problem right now is that the Loss of life is always tragic.
00:07:53.000 Violence is obviously detestable.
00:07:55.000 But Joe Biden is not a trustworthy president.
00:07:57.000 And so it is hard to believe anything that would come out of his administration, even if it is something awful like this.
00:08:03.000 You don't want to believe they would lie about being able to confirm this.
00:08:05.000 On the other hand, you just can't trust them.
00:08:07.000 Look at everything they've lied about.
00:08:09.000 Yeah, and again, we've met also horrible than the year testimony from 1990 that got us into the first Gulf War I don't like the way he said the word confirmed in that speech.
00:08:17.000 He said these pictures I've seen Confirmed like it was like, um, he's dropping the word like they would there's a talking points Make sure you say the word confirmed when you talk about this I said yesterday, prepare for deepfake, that we're in another modern, this modern war.
00:08:30.000 It's gonna be technology you've never seen before utilized.
00:08:32.000 And when they tell you something happened, and then some days later you're gonna start to see blurry images or images, be wary, don't snap to emotions.
00:08:40.000 Well, there's a really funny one.
00:08:41.000 Don Jr.
00:08:42.000 posted a video.
00:08:43.000 It is extremely graphic.
00:08:44.000 It is brutal.
00:08:46.000 And it is of Israeli civilians being killed by Hamas.
00:08:49.000 Community notes We're placed on it saying old video and fake because a pro-Palestinian activist posted a screenshot of a thumbnail of the video over and over again with the date of 2016 or something like that.
00:09:06.000 But it is believed now that that was fake.
00:09:08.000 And the video is real.
00:09:10.000 And now WIRED has contacted the government and done a deeper analysis on, I guess, the metadata in the video and found Donald Trump Jr.
00:09:18.000 was correct.
00:09:19.000 The video was from Israel.
00:09:21.000 And it appears that activists are trying to make fake screenshots to trick people into thinking they're fake.
00:09:25.000 Yo, we are in a whole new world of information warfare.
00:09:28.000 It's entirely possible.
00:09:30.000 That wired got bunk information from the government to convince us the videos are real.
00:09:34.000 Who knows?
00:09:36.000 But I will defer to if you've got the Biden administration and Donald Trump Jr and like everyone's kind of like, yeah, this is probably true.
00:09:47.000 I think you're going to have to go with that.
00:09:48.000 If people who absolutely despise each other are like, this is real.
00:09:53.000 Yeah, if both warring parties are agreeing on it, then they might all believe it.
00:09:57.000 It doesn't seem far-fetched from what we know about this group of people.
00:10:00.000 Nobody thinks this isn't something they wouldn't do.
00:10:02.000 They're undeniable videos.
00:10:04.000 Right, so there are videos where it's like, I don't know what this is, right?
00:10:07.000 It's a guy, and he's like running through a field, and I'm like... The video that Don Jr.
00:10:10.000 posted was tough, it's like people in a room being shot, and I'm like, man, that's brutal.
00:10:13.000 But then there are videos that are very easily and discernibly of Southern Israel, at an event where you can corroborate the pictures of the music festival, and you're watching people be shot, and it's just like, this happened.
00:10:23.000 Like, we know these videos are real.
00:10:25.000 That's the easy thing where it's like the story of these babies being killed, beheaded.
00:10:30.000 You don't need it.
00:10:31.000 Hamas did it.
00:10:31.000 And not only that, a mad respect to Max Blumenthal coming on the show and talking about it.
00:10:35.000 He's more pro-Palestine.
00:10:36.000 But he outright said Hamas's strategy is to target as many civilians as possible to use as bargaining chips for against Israel.
00:10:43.000 They are kidnapping civilians.
00:10:45.000 That's their tactic.
00:10:46.000 He called it a target of opportunity.
00:10:47.000 And I'm like, make no mistake.
00:10:49.000 This is not in dispute.
00:10:51.000 We know what they're doing.
00:10:54.000 I was thinking, you know, it's horrible.
00:10:56.000 It is absolutely, I mean, it's one of those horrific things you do to kill somebody and to kill a small child is like the most horrific thing.
00:11:02.000 But like, what's more horrific?
00:11:03.000 If someone cuts off the head of a baby or if someone blows up six babies with a bomb?
00:11:08.000 Yeah.
00:11:10.000 Yeah, Tim's right.
00:11:10.000 Like, you don't need it.
00:11:11.000 They don't need this to sell the case.
00:11:13.000 So the rationale for faking it doesn't make any much sense.
00:11:17.000 Right.
00:11:17.000 And the other thing too, I think it was, you know, there were a lot of people that were critical of Max Blumenthal because he does have a more pro-Palestinian stance, but he knows a lot about this and he actually pushed back on some of... There's a conspiracy theory going around that Israel knew this was going to happen.
00:11:33.000 And a lot of people are pushing it.
00:11:34.000 Some prominent personalities saying that they knew it was going to happen.
00:11:37.000 They let it happen because now they can use it as an excuse to go into Gaza and do all this stuff and bomb them.
00:11:42.000 And Max was like, no way, absolutely not.
00:11:45.000 He said Israel was humiliated.
00:11:48.000 There's a lot of private technology and security firms in Israel that pride themselves on being the best.
00:11:53.000 And this is true because I've covered this stuff going back 10 years with Occupy.
00:11:57.000 There are many surveillance companies that are born out of Israel that are like, we're the best.
00:12:02.000 Israel proves it.
00:12:03.000 This is extremely bad for this sector, the security sector.
00:12:10.000 And he also wanted to mention things, I don't want to comment too much on it because I'm not the expert on it, but the military doctrine that Israel has in terms of captured IDF soldiers is so extreme, he said, Israel would never allow One of their soldiers to be captured.
00:12:25.000 I mean the idea that they let this happen is just there's no way.
00:12:28.000 Yeah.
00:12:29.000 He's more pro-Palestine.
00:12:30.000 I mean, I find it interesting.
00:12:31.000 I think the big problem is going to be the deluge of information, especially fighting war in the technology age, right?
00:12:37.000 We're going to have videos that surface from wherever.
00:12:38.000 We're already seeing that community notes are there.
00:12:40.000 They're finding ways to work around these potential safeguards that we have.
00:12:44.000 The thing that I saw a lot today was parents warning or parents groups warning parents to have their kids delete TikTok and all their social media platforms while this goes on because it's permeating through all the algorithms.
00:12:54.000 So you're having young teenagers seeing very violent images and of course that's easily serving.
00:12:58.000 On the other hand, if you're cutting all kinds of people off from information, not that teenagers should see violence, it starts to get very dystopian, right?
00:13:05.000 We don't know what's real and we don't know who should be seeing it.
00:13:07.000 We don't know where to stop it from coming from.
00:13:09.000 Man, the community notes thing, I think, was obvious.
00:13:13.000 It is good that you have these community notes, because some of these things are very easily and provably false, but I have seen, on more than one occasion, people manipulate community notes.
00:13:21.000 It's basically, if enough people say something is true, they'll just run with it.
00:13:26.000 And then you end up with community notes that are, like, unrelated to the tweets, or in this instance, someone made what appears, I guess the story would be, this guy's screenshot was fake, To trick people, and it's remarkable.
00:13:38.000 Don Jr.
00:13:39.000 posts a video, and then some guy posts some screenshot with no website address, it's just pictures of thumbnails with a date on it, and that was enough for people on Community Notes to say, Don Trump's posting fake news.
00:13:51.000 I mean, is Community Notes any better than Wikipedia, right?
00:13:51.000 Amazing.
00:13:54.000 Wikipedia can be edited, and Wikipedia self-censors, so we don't really know what information is provable.
00:13:58.000 There's a reason we tell high schoolers you can't cite Wikipedia or maybe Community Notes in your term papers.
00:14:04.000 You gotta follow the sources.
00:14:06.000 And the interesting thing was that the source on this community note was some guy's tweet.
00:14:09.000 And now people are responding to Don Jr.
00:14:12.000 being like, WIRED did a deep analysis on the video and found the source and said, nah, it's real.
00:14:18.000 Like, it was recorded here, here's all the confirmation, it's crazy.
00:14:21.000 Apparently there are like other angles or something, I don't know.
00:14:24.000 Especially in Don Jr.' 's case, I'm sure they want Don Jr.
00:14:26.000 to look like he is promoting something crazy because of his last name, you know?
00:14:30.000 It's sort of a trap from the beginning for him.
00:14:32.000 Yeah.
00:14:33.000 Or... But then Wired was forced to defend him.
00:14:37.000 Which they did not like at all.
00:14:38.000 No, thank you.
00:14:41.000 We were talking about this before the show that there's a lot of people who thought they were on the same side who are now realizing perhaps they are not when it comes to this issue.
00:14:49.000 And I think that's going to be...
00:14:52.000 Obviously, I don't want it to be born on the backs of death and violence, but on the other hand, reconciling that it's not just the two sides and no one has any line of compromise is sort of a hard thing to put American culture through.
00:15:02.000 It's just so hard to believe because we've always known.
00:15:05.000 I guess you're talking about BLM and Antifa.
00:15:08.000 Sure.
00:15:09.000 We've always known that about them.
00:15:10.000 We've always known that about the college left, that they were super, super pro-Palestine violence be damned.
00:15:15.000 But I don't think mainstream left realized it.
00:15:18.000 I mean I may be not the one to ask but I think I think because I had known people who would come out as you know I have Jewish friends who have come out as pro-Palestine years and years before and it would really shock their community and I found that to be interesting.
00:15:29.000 It's not something that I would necessarily have a personal ability to comment on but I think there is more division than they realize because they're especially progressive left is used to being a unified front all the time.
00:15:39.000 Yeah.
00:15:41.000 Let's talk about Black Lives Matter.
00:15:43.000 We have this from ABC News.
00:15:46.000 BLM Chicago backs Palestine after Hamas terror invasion of Israel and this is causing a major backlash and tons of Democrats are now disavowing Black Lives Matter.
00:15:57.000 This is going to be a huge break in the culture war because now you've got Democrats who are like, wait a minute, you mean the far left we've supported want Israelis to be killed?
00:16:08.000 Yeah, take a look at this tweet.
00:16:10.000 This is an archive, it was deleted from BLM Chicago.
00:16:13.000 It says, that is all, that is it.
00:16:16.000 And it says, I stand with Palestine, and it's a, it's a paraglider with a Palestinian flag.
00:16:21.000 The paragliders are the ones who went into the music festival and started killing civilians.
00:16:24.000 They didn't more than just kill, they... Right.
00:16:26.000 Kidnapped.
00:16:27.000 Raped.
00:16:28.000 Kidnapped, yeah.
00:16:29.000 Uh, children and... So this is, this is an image explicitly supporting the tactic of targeting civilians.
00:16:37.000 Look, man.
00:16:38.000 We sit here and we complain about war all day.
00:16:41.000 And when the U.S.
00:16:42.000 has collateral damage, we complain about it.
00:16:44.000 We support Julian Assange.
00:16:45.000 He released collateral murder.
00:16:46.000 We see these war crimes.
00:16:48.000 We criticize Obama.
00:16:49.000 We criticize Trump.
00:16:50.000 Killing civilians is wrong.
00:16:52.000 Israel kills civilians.
00:16:52.000 We say it's wrong.
00:16:54.000 The issue, however, is in the instance of Israel, oftentimes what they're saying is they've built a weapons depot and a military base under a hospital.
00:17:04.000 We've given them a warning and we're going to take it out.
00:17:05.000 I say, okay, do I take Israel's word for it?
00:17:07.000 Well, the one thing I can say is Israel at least is saying that much.
00:17:11.000 We are trying to avoid killing civilians.
00:17:13.000 Well, okay.
00:17:14.000 I don't trust governments, right?
00:17:16.000 Everyone's got an agenda, but I can accept that.
00:17:18.000 You then have Barack Obama's ridiculous nonsense excuse for killing an American citizen in Yemen, they've never answered for, and that's evil.
00:17:26.000 But this is overtly celebrating the tactic of targeting civilians intentionally.
00:17:32.000 That's Black Lives Matter.
00:17:33.000 Max Blumenthal, he was on last night and he said that these guys were paratrooping to hit a military target and landed next to the target in the music festival and it was an attack of opportunity as opposed to a target.
00:17:45.000 A target of opportunity.
00:17:47.000 I don't know how much it matters.
00:17:50.000 Wait, if he's being factual, he's being factual.
00:17:52.000 Yes, but in terms of celebrating it still.
00:17:54.000 I mean, that image now is still the image of attacking civilians at a music festival.
00:17:58.000 It's not a, you know, the wind blew the wrong way.
00:18:00.000 We actually meant... Yeah, when they made this image, they knew what they were doing.
00:18:03.000 Exactly.
00:18:04.000 And they kept it up for hours.
00:18:05.000 It wasn't like, oops, delete.
00:18:07.000 It was 20,000 comments or something before they decided, someone decided to take it down.
00:18:11.000 What I want to be careful of is, you know, people were being critical of Max yesterday.
00:18:14.000 They're like, oh, I can't believe he would downplay this.
00:18:16.000 No, no, no, hold on.
00:18:17.000 If it is a fact that Hamas was intending to target military bases, that would make sense.
00:18:23.000 They say, we want to hit military bases.
00:18:26.000 And then as they're coming through the sky, they say, hey, look, civilians, let's get them, because it is a known tactic to target civilians to use as bargaining chips against Israel.
00:18:34.000 Max said all that too.
00:18:35.000 If those are facts, accept them.
00:18:37.000 It proves definitively, or I should say, a journalist with a pro-Palestine bias explicitly told us their strategy is target civilians.
00:18:47.000 Why would they attack an Israeli military base on Paraguay?
00:18:51.000 I mean, the IDF is scary.
00:18:53.000 No heat signature.
00:18:55.000 Well, what he was saying is that it caught him off guard, and it was humiliating.
00:18:58.000 It was quiet, off radar, because they're so low to the ground and no heat, probably.
00:19:02.000 Yeah.
00:19:03.000 What I find fascinating in the whole thing is that there are many people Prominent individuals, many who are very critical of Israel, saying that Israel knew this was coming and let it happen, and then you have Max, of all people, who is, you know, much more opposed to Israel's actions, being like, no, there's no way Israel knew in advance.
00:19:19.000 They were humiliated by this.
00:19:21.000 Hamas was targeting the military bases, and the music festival was nearby, and so it became a target of opportunity for them, because it is a known tactic they use.
00:19:29.000 But that wasn't the only place that was attacked.
00:19:31.000 Right.
00:19:31.000 They went to a bunch of villages.
00:19:33.000 A bunch of villages, beaches, anywhere.
00:19:35.000 So it makes me think that their primary target was take out the military perimeter, and then with a secondary target of get as many civilians as you can.
00:19:42.000 It's evil.
00:19:43.000 And this is the problem, right?
00:19:44.000 I don't like war.
00:19:45.000 I don't like the conflict.
00:19:46.000 I don't like hearing about children dying in Gaza.
00:19:49.000 All these tweets coming out the far left saying, oh, look at all these innocent civilians.
00:19:51.000 I'm like, yeah, it's all bad.
00:19:52.000 It's all bad, dude.
00:19:53.000 But yo, I can ask this question of anyone, and you're going to get the same answer.
00:20:00.000 The pro-Palestine side knows what the answer to this question is, and they will try to avoid answering it.
00:20:06.000 What would happen to Israel if they removed all of the security fencing around Gaza and said, free movement for all within Gaza into Israel?
00:20:15.000 What would happen?
00:20:17.000 Oh, we know exactly what happened.
00:20:18.000 We watched it happen.
00:20:19.000 Yeah, we watched it happen.
00:20:20.000 We watched what happened when they tore the fences down.
00:20:21.000 Yeah.
00:20:22.000 There's no question about that.
00:20:24.000 And so, you know, you talk to someone who's pro-Palestine, and they're gonna say, well, I mean, you know, it's like, oh, we get it.
00:20:29.000 This is the problem.
00:20:31.000 You complain about what Israel's doing in Gaza, but what's the answer?
00:20:35.000 Well, these people are in open-air prison.
00:20:37.000 I'm like, yeah, and if they opened the doors, it would be bloodshed.
00:20:39.000 It would be murder.
00:20:40.000 It would be massacres.
00:20:41.000 It would be war.
00:20:42.000 It would be, you know, a lot of people talk about 1948.
00:20:46.000 And how it was wrong for, you know, Israelis to push Palestinians off their land.
00:20:49.000 And I'm just like, it's war.
00:20:51.000 I don't have a good answer for you, man.
00:20:52.000 War is bad.
00:20:53.000 But the answer today is not to just make the war worse.
00:20:53.000 It sucks.
00:20:57.000 That seems to be what Hamas wants to do.
00:20:59.000 But anyway, back to the point.
00:21:00.000 Like, otherwise we're going to go in circles.
00:21:02.000 Back to what Black Lives Matter represents.
00:21:05.000 We also have a Democratic Socialist member of Congress.
00:21:08.000 He has quit the DSA and denounced them.
00:21:11.000 For their support of all of this.
00:21:13.000 Who?
00:21:13.000 Who is it?
00:21:14.000 Uh, let me, let me, let me pull up his name.
00:21:15.000 Do you guys know his name?
00:21:16.000 I had his, uh... Jamal Bowman.
00:21:17.000 No.
00:21:18.000 Was he part of the DSA?
00:21:19.000 Shree, here we go, we got it.
00:21:21.000 Shree Thanadar, congressman, he renounces, he's a, uh, let's see, a proud Detroiter, yeah, from Michigan.
00:21:28.000 Michigan's 13th district, and he renounces his membership in the DSA, saying, Today I'm officially renouncing my membership in the DSA after the brutal terror attacks in Israel, which included the indiscriminate murder, rape, and kidnapping of innocent men, women, and children, I can no longer associate with an organization unwilling to call out terror in all its forms.
00:21:46.000 Sunday's hate-filled and anti-Semitic rally in New York City, promoted by the New York DSA, Makes it impossible for me to continue my affiliation.
00:21:55.000 I stand with Israel and its right to defend itself.
00:21:58.000 There is no place for moral equivocation in the face of unadulterated evil as we have seen from Hamas.
00:22:04.000 I will continue to work towards the goals that brought me to Congress in the first place, universal healthcare, workers' rights, strong labor unions, equity for communities of color, environmental justice, and compassionate immigration.
00:22:12.000 My ideals have not changed at all.
00:22:13.000 I strongly believe that ending my association with the DSA serves my constituents' interests, as they expect me to represent them by helping to build a better, more just world, not fanning the flames of hatred.
00:22:22.000 Shout out to Ryan Long, who put out a video called, Actor Doesn't Know Whether to Support Palestine or Israel.
00:22:28.000 Because the fascinating thing is, What we're seeing here with Sri, and there's another story about a bunch of Harvard students who are being blacklisted, and now they're putting out letters being like, no we don't support Palestine, we're so sorry, we're so sorry!
00:22:40.000 The default position for a lot of these people was, whatever the narrative is, I support.
00:22:45.000 Whatever popular thing is.
00:22:46.000 Black Lives Matter was a current thing, we support it.
00:22:49.000 Uh-oh, BLM, not just BLM in Chicago, but LA, came out in defense of what Hamas did.
00:22:55.000 And now, if you tweet in support of BLM, you will get cancelled.
00:22:59.000 These people don't have convictions, don't have morals, and were marching in lockstep with what they thought was the power structure.
00:23:06.000 That meant when atrocities occurred on video and we see innocent people being paraded around, murdered, kidnapped, etc.
00:23:15.000 They ignore that and say, it doesn't matter, BLM is a popular thing.
00:23:20.000 I want to reiterate that because that explains the culture war so well.
00:23:20.000 Think about that.
00:23:26.000 For all of us, We can sit here and be like, man, it's really bad when civilians die, no matter who does it.
00:23:31.000 What Hamas did is horrifying and it's atrocious.
00:23:31.000 Right?
00:23:34.000 We don't want war.
00:23:35.000 I'm skeptical of these videos and these stories.
00:23:37.000 Did babies really get beheaded?
00:23:38.000 Man, this is tough.
00:23:39.000 We try to be reasonable.
00:23:41.000 So many actors, members of Congress, Harvard students, Knowing these videos emerged, thought, but the left is in power.
00:23:50.000 So I will just agree with whatever they say.
00:23:52.000 And what happened?
00:23:54.000 Major backlash.
00:23:55.000 Regular people were like, bro, you just defended literal terror attacks on innocent civilians.
00:24:00.000 The problem with people that are obsessed with domestic politics and have no idea what's going on geopolitically.
00:24:04.000 You got to know both.
00:24:05.000 Well, and I think in this case, it's important to note that Black Lives Matter is essentially saying the tactics Hamas use are justified, right?
00:24:13.000 If you have a political movement within the or- Within the United States that says essentially using civilians as pawns, harming them to get your political ends, is worth doing.
00:24:22.000 That's a very significant statement to take, right?
00:24:24.000 We know the Black Lives Matter movements often end in riots and violence.
00:24:28.000 The fact that they're lining up behind this kind of action is something we should all be extremely wary of.
00:24:34.000 Yeah, they share violent means to an end philosophy, although... And they're confirming it on a geopolitical stage now.
00:24:39.000 Of course, yeah.
00:24:41.000 Just saying.
00:24:42.000 They got passed off as being this peaceful movement.
00:24:45.000 And I think Tim's totally right.
00:24:46.000 Ultimately, you know, people don't know enough about these issues to be able to say definitively how they feel about it.
00:24:52.000 But they know they're supposed to say something.
00:24:53.000 That's why Ryan Long's video is so funny.
00:24:56.000 He knows he's supposed to take a stance.
00:24:58.000 He just doesn't know what it is because he takes his cues from everyone around him.
00:25:00.000 The issue is they don't care.
00:25:02.000 That many of the people who are waving BLM flags and these progress pride flags don't know, don't care.
00:25:09.000 All they're really saying is, I support what we view to be the cultural and institutional power.
00:25:17.000 And so when the institutional powers do evil things, these people march in lockstep behind them.
00:25:22.000 And that's what we talk about.
00:25:23.000 I've mentioned that the progress pride flag is akin to the Nazi flag.
00:25:28.000 Not in that it represents the same ideology, but that it represents people blindly marching behind what they view to be power.
00:25:34.000 This shattered that, and now people are panicking.
00:25:36.000 I love this Harvard student organization being like, we never meant this!
00:25:41.000 No, we're so sorry!
00:25:42.000 We regret signing this letter in support of Palestine.
00:25:45.000 Money, because we'll get our six-figure jobs when we graduate.
00:25:48.000 That's right, because now they're realizing they're getting canceled.
00:25:51.000 The only thing they ever cared about was looking like they fit in.
00:25:55.000 No morals and no principles.
00:25:56.000 But there's also, and I agree with you, but there's also, I mean, there's this ethos in the white liberal, I'll say white liberal, but culturally white, you know, the Western liberal, I think you were touching on this too, and they're suddenly horrified.
00:26:06.000 It's this mentality, and it's so racist, I know that word's so overused, but it exposes how extremely racist they are, that they look at people like Islamic terrorists, and it's the same way they look at inner-city violence in black communities.
00:26:17.000 And they think, and they look at Israel, and they're like, Israel's a civilized country, so we hold them to a higher moral standard.
00:26:22.000 We hold them to our moral standards.
00:26:24.000 These third-world people, they're stupid.
00:26:27.000 Look at their skin colors, look how they live.
00:26:29.000 We can't expect them to behave how we behave, and they're so oppressed.
00:26:32.000 So we can't, you know, Israel is held to a different standard.
00:26:36.000 They cannot behave like this.
00:26:36.000 These people, they just don't know any better.
00:26:38.000 And we have to be their custodians.
00:26:39.000 We have to stand up for them.
00:26:41.000 It's deeply racist.
00:26:42.000 The liberal ethos so much.
00:26:44.000 But then you have the more violent wing like BLM and Antifa that actually are like, no, we want to see dead bodies and we hate these people and we want communism now.
00:26:50.000 No, it's crazy.
00:26:51.000 But the polite progressive class, that's exactly what it is, and now they're having this moral crisis of what side to choose.
00:26:57.000 Yeah, and I think that they're going to have a really hard time reconciling this.
00:26:59.000 I think when people want to do the right thing, but they don't actually think about the issues, they just think about what their friends are doing, they have no moral compass.
00:27:09.000 I mean, with these Harvard students, you know, if they really believed in what they said, they wouldn't have backed down.
00:27:13.000 Nothing should be worth compromising your values for, but It's not about values, it's about signaling that they have done the right things.
00:27:19.000 It reminds me of, you know, and it's a terrible comparison to draw, but it reminds me of all of the people who suddenly became excited about various causes, like after the Parkland shooting, all these students who were suddenly deeply involved in gun violence, and they would hold protests and whatever else, and then they would get into elite colleges because they were signaling that they were behind the right thing all the time.
00:27:39.000 I mean, that's how we got David Hogg, yes?
00:27:42.000 To what end?
00:27:43.000 What are we doing to better serve the values of the community?
00:27:45.000 Maybe they really stand by it, but ultimately it was the thing that they thought would help them get an advantage moving forward.
00:27:51.000 Yeah, of course.
00:27:52.000 Like corporations virtue signaling, same thing.
00:27:54.000 Well, this is the thing we have to do now.
00:27:57.000 I think one of the challenging things coming out of Israel is just going to be the fact that so much, I know I said this earlier, but there's going to be so much information and so much visual media that there are going to be people who knee-jerk take a strong stance who then are going to back down and change their mind.
00:28:11.000 And I, again, with this congressman, I think that's a very solid move to renounce an organization that you have been a part of and at one point would have served you to say, oh yeah, I'm a DSA member, look how trendy and progressive I am.
00:28:21.000 I want to pull up this story from Wired.
00:28:24.000 A graphic Hamas video Donald Trump Jr.
00:28:26.000 shared on X's actually real research confirms a video posted by Donald Trump Jr.
00:28:31.000 showing Hamas militants attacking Israelis was falsely flagged in a community note as being years old thus making X's disinformation problem worse and not better.
00:28:41.000 The first thing I say is, um, many of these liberal journalists are really upset that Elon Musk is doing so well, so any opportunity to attack X is an opportunity they will take.
00:28:51.000 But in this instance, it actually ends up working out.
00:28:54.000 Trump Jr.
00:28:55.000 is being defended.
00:28:56.000 They're in a weird position where it's like, well, you know, I guess, I guess defending Trump Jr.
00:29:01.000 who's criticizing terror is the lesser of two evils or whatever?
00:29:04.000 In their mind.
00:29:04.000 It's all fake news and all manipulation, right?
00:29:06.000 I'm not going to play the video.
00:29:07.000 It is beyond graphic.
00:29:08.000 Can you give a summary of what it was?
00:29:09.000 Yeah, it's a bunch of bodies on the ground being shot.
00:29:12.000 The gist of the story here, and what I want to get into with this is, it's all fake news and all manipulation,
00:29:12.000 It's graphic.
00:29:17.000 right?
00:29:18.000 Somebody- I'm not gonna play the video, it is beyond graphic, it is- you did not-
00:29:23.000 Can you give a summary of what it was?
00:29:25.000 Yeah, it's a bunch of bodies on the ground being shot, there's- it's graphic.
00:29:27.000 Just, understand. It is- just- I- I don't even want to describe it.
00:29:33.000 It's people dying.
00:29:34.000 And you're watching it happen.
00:29:35.000 It is brutal.
00:29:37.000 And someone flagged it because they posted a screenshot saying the video was fake and from some other time or some other place.
00:29:43.000 But it was a false flag.
00:29:44.000 It was a false.
00:29:45.000 Likely someone made a fake screenshot.
00:29:47.000 And it's really easy to do.
00:29:48.000 You can pull up the video.
00:29:51.000 On a search engine, and then you can inspect and edit the script to make whatever dates you want to say, and then screen grab.
00:29:59.000 Or you just go and paintbrush and just change it.
00:29:59.000 It's that easy.
00:30:01.000 So apparently Wired did the groundwork and found, like, no, Donald Trump Jr.
00:30:04.000 is not posting fake stuff.
00:30:06.000 He's posting real stuff.
00:30:07.000 And it's funny, like, when Wired is defending Trump Jr., I mean, wow.
00:30:12.000 There's unity here in this country, I guess.
00:30:14.000 But I want to bring up another tweet here.
00:30:17.000 This is something I tweeted, and let me see if I can get a bigger image of this.
00:30:21.000 The first image is a tweet from Andy Ngo, where it's a Palestinian- Palestine celebration rally in Dearborn, Michigan, where the speaker says, When you go to a Black Lives Matter rally, you see Palestinian flags.
00:30:33.000 When you go to a white supremacy rally, you see Israeli flags.
00:30:37.000 And then a tweet from the ADL.
00:30:39.000 White supremacist leaders are openly celebrating Hamas' attack on Israel, cheering- Okay, you get the point.
00:30:45.000 This is, like, so much is being exposed here.
00:30:48.000 The lies of the machine are falling apart.
00:30:51.000 The culture war is just imploding right now, and we are being proven right.
00:30:56.000 This right here is one of the best.
00:30:58.000 Pro-Palestine groups claim white supremacists love Israel, and the ADL claims white supremacists are mocking Israel for being attacked.
00:31:05.000 Are both true?
00:31:06.000 I mean, this is nuts.
00:31:07.000 According to the videos I saw, according to the ADL, white supremacy has a perfect ESG score.
00:31:14.000 They're just covering all their bases.
00:31:15.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:31:16.000 And now there are a lot of people who are outraged that the ADL and the SPLC have not condemned Black Lives Matter as hate groups for supporting terrorism in Israel.
00:31:23.000 And Jonathan Greenblatt, who is the head of the ADL, went on MSNBC criticizing them of their coverage of this, because they were calling it, you know, militants.
00:31:33.000 And he's like, these are terrorists.
00:31:34.000 Who's writing these scripts?
00:31:35.000 Like, bro, You defended these people relentlessly over the past several years, and we kept begging you, stop, man, they're lying!
00:31:42.000 And now you get an overt act of terror, undeniable, and look, look, I'm seeing libertarians who are like, no war, no intervention, being like, yo, that was messed up what they did, like, wow, like, this is brutal.
00:31:53.000 And now the ADL nowhere to be found when BLM... I'm sorry dude.
00:31:57.000 The ADL is being insulted and attacked by Black Lives Matter who are supporting Palestine Hamas terrorists.
00:32:03.000 And they can't even come out and call them a hate group or condemn it.
00:32:07.000 I think it just shows exactly what these groups represent.
00:32:10.000 The ADL spent the last year telling, well last many years, saying the worst example of anti-Semitism is any time you bring up George Soros.
00:32:17.000 There you have it.
00:32:18.000 And then now look at this.
00:32:19.000 We have all of it on video and just totally silent.
00:32:22.000 I would like to see the ADL and the SPLC publish their article saying Black Lives Matter is a hate, an anti-Semitic hate group.
00:32:28.000 You know what's funny is we've known this since the Women's March.
00:32:32.000 When Tablet Magazine published, like, they are pushing insane anti-Semitic conspiracy theories.
00:32:37.000 And there it is.
00:32:38.000 There it is, everybody.
00:32:39.000 You know, here's the problem.
00:32:42.000 This was, man, when was this?
00:32:44.000 This was like six years ago.
00:32:45.000 The ACLU defended Unite the Right in Charlottesville, saying, you have a right to free speech.
00:32:50.000 And then they started losing a bunch of donors.
00:32:52.000 And then all of a sudden, their message changed.
00:32:56.000 Money talks.
00:32:57.000 Like I mentioned, these Harvard kids who are like, no, we didn't mean to sign that letter in support of Hamas.
00:33:01.000 Whoops.
00:33:02.000 I mean the S.B.L.C.
00:33:03.000 in particular pedals in fear, right?
00:33:05.000 They're able to say, you know, you be nice to us or follow our talking points or we will put you on one of our lists and no one will want to hire you because we'll try to make it so whenever you show up you're basically a Google felon.
00:33:15.000 I mean this is how the S.B.L.C.
00:33:16.000 keeps its donors in check and it keeps its enemies at bay because it says we are the authority on morality and if we decide that we don't like you it's all over.
00:33:25.000 The thing is, they are corrupt.
00:33:27.000 They don't have any sort of moral standing to make that judgment.
00:33:29.000 They're just the institutional power that's there.
00:33:31.000 And when they are needed most, where are they?
00:33:33.000 Nowhere, right?
00:33:34.000 Theoretically, this is the time that they should be the most outspoken.
00:33:36.000 And instead, they're going to wait until one of their biggest donors says what they want them to say, and then they're going to follow suit.
00:33:42.000 Well, we need to lobby the ADL and the SPLC to put Black Lives Matter as an anti-Semitic hate group on all of their pages.
00:33:50.000 If they were really serious about anti-Semitism, you'd think they'd do it right away, but I don't... I'm questioning their... I mean, they kind of would have to, right?
00:33:58.000 I didn't even take the check.
00:34:00.000 No, no, they're not working right now.
00:34:02.000 They're not updating anything.
00:34:04.000 They're looking for what Nick Fuentes is saying right now.
00:34:07.000 We're trying to change the subject so quickly.
00:34:09.000 Or again, like I said, they are waiting for their biggest donor to tell them what they're comfortable with and then they'll abide by that messaging.
00:34:16.000 I obviously have some hard feelings about these organizations, but I think they're just not trustworthy and instead they present themselves in ways to ruin other people's lives and to take money from people who really think that potentially they are doing good.
00:34:26.000 Because that's the hardest thing about all liberal causes to me.
00:34:29.000 There are potentially people who are, you know, Compassionate, who really believe these organizations are saying what they pretend they are doing, and it's just not the case.
00:34:37.000 They're being swindled.
00:34:38.000 Exactly.
00:34:38.000 I don't know if you ever experienced this while you were doing your circuits on Fox.
00:34:42.000 I mean, you were on Tucker's show pretty regularly for a while.
00:34:45.000 Yeah, yeah, lots of Fox shows, not just Tucker's.
00:34:47.000 But experienced what?
00:34:48.000 Experienced the... That you can see there are people who believe something on the left really dearly, but ultimately they're being misled.
00:34:55.000 Oh, absolutely.
00:34:56.000 Yeah.
00:34:56.000 And you can't, I mean, you can't be angry at all of them.
00:34:59.000 You know, I've got like Democrats in my family that, you know, they sincerely believe it and you can't really, they don't have any, they're not bad people.
00:35:06.000 But yeah, these are, these organizations, it's not just, I mean, it's every organization you can think of.
00:35:09.000 It's like the Human Rights Campaign and GLAAD for the gay stuff.
00:35:11.000 It's, you know, that's all trans stuff.
00:35:14.000 But yeah, you're completely right.
00:35:15.000 I mean, SPLC and ADL are pure evil.
00:35:18.000 They're smear factories.
00:35:20.000 That's all they do.
00:35:21.000 Yeah, and collect money for it.
00:35:23.000 Semite, it really just means like a desert person, like someone from Asia and East Africa, and it includes Arabs.
00:35:32.000 Arabs are Semites, Acadians, Canites, Hebrews, Ethiopians.
00:35:35.000 So like, if you hate Arabs, you're also anti-Semitic.
00:35:39.000 Yeah, but that's not what the ADL has twisted it to mean.
00:35:43.000 No, come on, bro.
00:35:43.000 People use words to convey meaning, right?
00:35:46.000 And they also change definitions to control narrative.
00:35:48.000 And if we all understand what the word means, as of today, then we can understand what they're trying to say when they say it.
00:35:56.000 We've talked about this, when the left comes out and says racism, I have no problem saying, they don't mean racism the same way you do.
00:36:02.000 Right?
00:36:02.000 We will translate their version of class and race-based oppression So then, the definition of anti-Semitism that you're saying is commonly understood is that it's anti-Jewish, or is it anti-Israeli?
00:36:11.000 So then the definition of anti-semitism that you that you're saying that is commonly understood
00:36:17.000 Is that it's anti-jewish or is it anti-israeli? Is it which one of those?
00:36:21.000 Anti-semitism, the common understanding of the anti-jewish.
00:36:23.000 Right. Yeah, so secular or anti-hebrew?
00:36:26.000 No one's saying it to refer to Palestinians or Canadians or anything like that.
00:36:30.000 Because it's not about religion, it's about where they're from.
00:36:31.000 It's really about where you're from.
00:36:33.000 But by all means, you can take issue with the use of the word Semite in this way, but we know the idea being conveyed.
00:36:38.000 Right.
00:36:39.000 I do, I do.
00:36:40.000 But, you know, that's... So that's it.
00:36:42.000 I don't know why they hijacked the term.
00:36:44.000 I don't know that anyone hijacked it, that sometimes terms become, like, words happen.
00:36:51.000 Like, people use words... Xerox became a verb, right?
00:36:54.000 This is a common thing.
00:36:55.000 Kleenex.
00:36:55.000 Yeah, like nouns, proper names become verbs because of whatever reason.
00:37:00.000 And for whatever reason, for good or bad, whatever your criticism is, this is the idea of being conveyed.
00:37:04.000 I suppose I bring it up only because we are in an information war and it's better to arm yourself with the knowledge of past definition.
00:37:10.000 Is that really ever been a past definition?
00:37:12.000 Yeah, in 1770 it was created to describe all those people from that area of the world.
00:37:16.000 Yes, but anti-Semite.
00:37:18.000 Was that used colloquially to describe the people of that world, or is it typically just referred to Jewish people?
00:37:23.000 I don't know.
00:37:23.000 Let's find out.
00:37:24.000 Yeah, well, we'll keep talking about the news.
00:37:27.000 Spread the narrative.
00:37:28.000 Let us know what you find out.
00:37:29.000 You know, I can certainly understand and respect that there are people who definitely try to manipulate words to gain power, as we see with the left changing the definition of sexism and racism and all those things.
00:37:38.000 Right.
00:37:38.000 But if you're going to be talking to the average person, we simply try to just understand the ideas that are being conveyed and then, you know, push back.
00:37:44.000 You have to go with a colloquial meaning.
00:37:45.000 That makes sense.
00:37:46.000 Yeah, and you can criticize.
00:37:47.000 Like, I have no problem saying, like, you should use, you know, the word semi refers to many more people than just Jewish people.
00:37:53.000 So by all means, you know, you can be more specific and just say they hate Jews.
00:37:56.000 Like, that's actually probably more direct.
00:37:58.000 Yeah.
00:37:59.000 And you know, I think anti-Semite kind of softens the general idea.
00:38:02.000 Just say they hate Jews.
00:38:03.000 I was listening to one, I think it was a guy from Hamas talking, and they were saying that they wanted to eradicate, not the Jews, but Zionists, which is the idea of creating an Israeli, it's a political state.
00:38:13.000 It's not the, it had nothing to do with the religion itself.
00:38:16.000 And it was wicked Christians.
00:38:18.000 So like people that claim to be Christian, but don't believe in God or don't follow the tenets of the faith, like those aren't real Christians anyway.
00:38:23.000 Did you guys see what Lindsey Graham said?
00:38:25.000 We're in a religious war.
00:38:27.000 Do whatever you have to do.
00:38:28.000 Level it.
00:38:29.000 Level that place or whatever.
00:38:30.000 Thanks, Lindsey Graham.
00:38:32.000 I bring this up in response to what you're saying because, you know, everything I hear is, you know, it's the Palestinian people who have been removed from their homes and it's like, wasn't it like someone else's before that and someone else's before that and someone else's before that?
00:38:45.000 What did one of our members say?
00:38:47.000 Bring back Rome?
00:38:48.000 Yeah, this is the real... That's why you guys all think about the Roman Empire?
00:38:51.000 It was Ottoman for a long time, and then before that it was Byzantine, which was like the Eastern Roman Empire, before that it was the Roman Empire.
00:38:57.000 I think it was Greek for a long time before that.
00:38:59.000 Yeah, there's like 15 different... Alexander, cognitive from the Persians I believe, I'm not sure exactly.
00:39:05.000 Yeah, we're not in a holy war, Lindsey Graham.
00:39:08.000 We're not in any war, firstly.
00:39:11.000 Yeah, we aren't.
00:39:12.000 Yeah, put a slip on his part.
00:39:13.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:39:15.000 I mean, I get, like, okay, so I'm the first to admit and acknowledge, like, I'm totally an emotional child and being like, nuke them, you know?
00:39:22.000 But I realize that that's my emotions and I can't really be, like, tweeting and saying that.
00:39:25.000 This man actually, you know, controls Warbucks and a member of Congress.
00:39:28.000 And same with Nikki Haley, she's saying the same stuff he is, right?
00:39:31.000 What is it with South Carolina?
00:39:32.000 Like, just today, right now, I'm having a little bit of struggle talking about it, because it's like, if we were just hanging out at the kitchen table, and just, I would be like, dark, dark, dark thoughts, because it's war, and we're talking about the horror, but if we're on TV, any little idea I have right now is like, could spark conflict, and so I'm like, I almost, I'm like self-censoring, for better or worse, but...
00:39:55.000 I think we're all feeling that.
00:39:56.000 I mean, I think rational people are feeling that, not people who are senators on Fox News saying we're in a holy war.
00:40:01.000 Yeah, I think it's good to be cautious when you're talking generally.
00:40:04.000 I mean, I can understand working out ideas with friends or people that you trust, but in this case, having people like Nikki Haley or Lindsey Graham say, you know, we are in a holy war or, you know, advocating for more international theory, you have to remember that they are sending your family members to war.
00:40:20.000 I mean Nikki Haley does have a husband who's deployed to Africa right now I believe but for the most part they aren't talking about things that affect them they're talking about things that affect more working class mainstream Americans.
00:40:31.000 They're willing to make them make the sacrifice and I don't know if that's actually something we should do right?
00:40:37.000 I mean ultimately I know I make this point when I'm on all the time but the American government is supposed to serve the American people and so even if The two countries are having a religious conflict.
00:40:49.000 I don't know that it's our duty to intervene on their behalf, right?
00:40:53.000 Like, what is our obligation to our people first?
00:40:56.000 And I don't know that it's sending young men and women to a war that we are not necessarily invited to be a part of, even though some sides may want us to intervene.
00:41:04.000 Especially when you're a 70-year-old confirmed Southern bachelor like Lindsey Graham who doesn't have to worry about his children being affected by this.
00:41:11.000 I mean, he doesn't.
00:41:12.000 It's completely right.
00:41:13.000 I mean him of all people.
00:41:15.000 And again, it's hard to be online right now.
00:41:19.000 I don't know if you feel the same, but it makes me more and more cynical.
00:41:23.000 People who call for us to intervene or war, no one calls for something that they don't gain from.
00:41:28.000 So what does Lindsey Graham gain from this?
00:41:30.000 What does Nikki Haley gain from this?
00:41:31.000 What does Joe Biden gain from this?
00:41:33.000 Because the American people lose from us getting more involved in this conflict.
00:41:36.000 That's true.
00:41:38.000 Well, I hope you guys are ready for this.
00:41:40.000 From American Military News report, Hamas calls for global jihad, invasion of Israel, and attacks on Jews worldwide on October 13th.
00:41:48.000 American Military News is NewsGuard certified 100 out of 100 if that means anything to you.
00:41:54.000 And they say, a leading and founding member of Hamas, Khalid Mishal, reportedly called for a global jihad on Tuesday, asking Muslims around the world to target people of Israel on Friday, October 13th.
00:42:04.000 Video of Mishal's reported call to violence was posted on YouTube and remains up on the platform as of Wednesday at 10 a.m.
00:42:09.000 According to a translation, an analysis of the video by author Brother Rashid, Mishal referred to his proposed day of anger as the Friday of the Al-Aqsa flood, which will send a message of rage to the Zionists and to America.
00:42:22.000 Okay, so, you know, I'm kind of worried.
00:42:27.000 They showed their numbers this week.
00:42:28.000 How many are in this country?
00:42:29.000 Should we talk about our sweet, sweet border policy?
00:42:32.000 Do we know how many Hamas individuals are in the United States?
00:42:37.000 No, no, I was saying with the rallies with the people who- Oh, right, right, right.
00:42:40.000 You know, we saw, you know, that there are plenty of people out there that are happy to commit violence.
00:42:44.000 So I live in New York City, so that's obviously a prime target if people want to do this.
00:42:48.000 So under our last mayor, and I doubt that the current one, Mayor Nightlife, has changed this, and I talked to cops about this actually from my last book, the entire NYPD anti-terrorism unit was directed to only focus on white supremacy, lone wolf white supremacist terrorists under de Blasio, and I'm sure it's probably still the same.
00:43:06.000 And, uh, even cops I was talking to at the time were like, yeah, it doesn't exist.
00:43:10.000 Like, they're mythical creatures.
00:43:11.000 There's no white supremacist terrorists in New York City.
00:43:13.000 This one cop I spoke to was saying, you know, they send the NYPD terrorism unit to go train with the FBI.
00:43:18.000 And even the FBI guys were like, yeah, no, it's Islam.
00:43:21.000 This was a couple of years ago.
00:43:22.000 Like, don't listen to what they're teaching you.
00:43:24.000 But still, they took all resources away from Islam, even though since 9-11 there'd been something like a dozen either successful or thwarted terrorist attacks in New York City.
00:43:32.000 So is the NYPD prepared?
00:43:33.000 I mean, I haven't heard Mayor Nightlife say anything about the anti-terrorism unit and what they're doing.
00:43:39.000 I don't think it's just going to be New York.
00:43:42.000 I mean, New York's a big target, but this is the concern.
00:43:45.000 Look, Kevin McCarthy and Rhonda Sanders both pointed this out, you know, whether you like any of them or not, okay?
00:43:50.000 Our southern border is so extremely porous, and we know that several hundred every year, and now more, it's gone substantially higher, are on the terror watch list.
00:44:00.000 I don't know if you want to trust this stuff or trust our intel agencies or any of this.
00:44:02.000 I'm just saying, like, our border is open, okay?
00:44:05.000 And there are people coming through who are not from South America.
00:44:07.000 There are people from China coming through.
00:44:09.000 No joke.
00:44:10.000 There are people from Africa coming through.
00:44:12.000 And, of course, there are people from the Middle East coming through.
00:44:15.000 So if Hamas is trying to bring in sleeper cells, they've been able to do it for some time under the Biden administration.
00:44:21.000 When they then say, we're going to send a message to Israel and the United States, I have concerns about what that may be.
00:44:27.000 And it's the one time I hope the, you know, our law enforcement can do a good job of something instead of just framing, you know, rednecks for trying to kidnap people.
00:44:35.000 I always hope they can do a good job, but they just don't always do a good job.
00:44:38.000 I mean, the border crisis is something that has been an open issue.
00:44:42.000 And we know that other countries are not going to say, oh, well, America seems to be struggling to work this issue out.
00:44:47.000 So we'll just let them.
00:44:48.000 We won't send anybody.
00:44:49.000 We're not going to take advantage of it.
00:44:51.000 We have no idea what's what's in this what what the issues we have wrought for our country are because we have left our border so porous for so long.
00:44:59.000 And the Biden administration did nothing to stop this.
00:45:01.000 So should hopefully, you know, everything's fine on Friday.
00:45:05.000 Hopefully nothing happens.
00:45:05.000 But if anything happens, we should look directly to the Biden administration.
00:45:09.000 Did you see the Air Canada pilot?
00:45:12.000 Yeah, he got fired.
00:45:13.000 What happened?
00:45:14.000 He was just posting signs in support of Palestine.
00:45:18.000 Yeah, pro-Palestine.
00:45:20.000 People were saying, he was so radical in his speech, they were saying Jewish people should feel scared to fly with him and he was put on leave.
00:45:27.000 Wow.
00:45:27.000 That's the thing, because you can be pro-Palestine and pro-Israel.
00:45:32.000 I want coexistence.
00:45:34.000 I understand the violence has gotten to a point where the vengeance is on people's minds, but that doesn't mean you can't support both of their rights and define interventions to survive.
00:45:44.000 There are Arab Israelis that live in Israel.
00:45:50.000 So I mean the issue seems to be more so religious and and I get the vital none I was talking to Serge about this before the shows he made a claim that it was oh I've mentioned this that it was about Zionism He didn't really mention Judaism and wicked Christians not not Christians themselves ones that purport to be Christian and like people the Zionism is the idea of creating an Israeli state a political state in that area of the world has nothing to do with the religion and I mean, you could argue then that Israelis, all Jews are from Israel, you know, Judah's father was Jacob Israel, so they're all descended from Israel, but that doesn't mean that every Israeli is Jewish, because Israel had a lot of sons, so.
00:46:26.000 There's a lot of Orthodox Hasidic Jews, I don't know if they're actually Hasidic, they look Hasidic, and I've seen them protesting in New York before that are really anti-Israel, like they're super against the Israeli state.
00:46:37.000 Yeah.
00:46:38.000 For religious reasons, I don't believe that it's, I can't get into the exact theology, but Uh, yeah.
00:46:44.000 There's a lot of stances. You can be pro-Palestine, you can be pro-Israel, you can be pro-Jewish,
00:46:49.000 you can be anti-Jewish. So there's a lot of things that go into this. It's not just as
00:46:52.000 simple as like, that's what Ryan Long's joke's about. It's not just one side of the thing.
00:46:56.000 He says, I've had all the stances. It's not as simple as that.
00:47:00.000 I'm pro-Abraham, yo, and Abraham spoke to God, that dude was legit, and he had an awesome
00:47:05.000 His kids were badasses and they spawned great tribes of people, so if we can stay focused on that guy, we have something in common.
00:47:13.000 Everybody wants control over the Holy Land.
00:47:16.000 Yeah.
00:47:17.000 That's where it's been over 6,000 years.
00:47:18.000 I was reading that Forward.com wrote about the Red Heifer.
00:47:22.000 And so apparently at the beginning of September, I'll give you a really quick, simple version because I don't want to talk too much about it, but the general idea is that this is a symbol of the messianic era returning or something like that.
00:47:33.000 And so it's just Christians and Jews tend to be aligned in a lot of ways as to what they expect to happen and what they want to happen.
00:47:40.000 And so that's why there's coexistence, whereas Islam is more so at odds, which is a large portion of the conflict.
00:47:45.000 I was listening to the Quran last night.
00:47:47.000 I've been doing like 30 minutes of it at night or something like that and they were talking about Ishmael who is son of Abraham and he's descended from Ishmael come the tribe of Islam but he's like hanging out with his dad and they're just talking and I started to feel like I was there with him.
00:48:02.000 It was wild man.
00:48:03.000 Like you start to feel like you're part of that tribe when you listen to the stories and I imagine it's the same with his brother with Isaac.
00:48:10.000 I haven't listened to a lot of what Isaac did with his dad but like I understand the pride of being related to that and to know and to be able to track back your dynasty to the people because those dudes were like, for whatever reason, I don't know if it was like the strain of the environment that made them listen to God like under great tension.
00:48:28.000 You have no other choice.
00:48:29.000 You start to hear it or like if you're starving, you know, then there's better chance you're going to hear it because you're not clouded.
00:48:35.000 What should regular people do?
00:48:37.000 Right?
00:48:38.000 Don't panic.
00:48:40.000 But are people paying attention to this stuff?
00:48:41.000 I'm worried about what could or may happen.
00:48:44.000 I think Israel is gonna be on high alert, obviously, and this could be... This statement this guy put out is escalation.
00:48:52.000 And that's just bad.
00:48:53.000 Outright.
00:48:54.000 But if there's already ongoing attacks, there's already rocket attacks, if something happens in the United States, man...
00:49:00.000 I don't want to see the U.S.
00:49:01.000 get involved in another conflict, but it looks like that's where we're going.
00:49:06.000 With special operations being offered up to Israel.
00:49:09.000 And you've already got a bunch of politicians calling for direct support, more funding, more aid.
00:49:14.000 And war with Iran.
00:49:17.000 This is making me think of Putin.
00:49:18.000 He made a statement, and there's a video of it, Jackson Hinkle tweeted it out, and he's basically saying, if men decide to fight, let them fight.
00:49:25.000 Leave the women and children alone.
00:49:27.000 He's in a bad place right now.
00:49:28.000 And I'm not the greatest guy on earth.
00:49:30.000 Even Putin standing with Israel is like, you can't do this.
00:49:33.000 We wanted some land.
00:49:34.000 Let's go easy.
00:49:36.000 Not that he didn't make life good for the Ukrainians the last few years, but you could say that maybe other people were involved in that.
00:49:41.000 I think it's morale crushing.
00:49:42.000 I think no matter who you are as a leader, let's say there's the red faction and the blue faction and they're at war.
00:49:51.000 Everyone as human beings have similar desires and understandings and despises seeing women and children killed.
00:50:01.000 Not every person, but of civilized countries, like obviously we're at odds with Russia and China, but you will demoralize your fighters If you're actively saying, go out there and kill kids, they're going to be like, man, I don't want to fight anymore.
00:50:14.000 Like it's just, you're not fighting for anything.
00:50:17.000 You can see, we can recognize.
00:50:18.000 Yeah.
00:50:18.000 Yeah.
00:50:19.000 They got to, they got to trick themselves into thinking that the enemy is like a rat.
00:50:23.000 It's like not, not a human.
00:50:25.000 But even then targeting children is going to be extremely difficult.
00:50:29.000 It's kind of like a rat's nest.
00:50:30.000 Like you don't, you don't spare the baby rats.
00:50:33.000 You just.
00:50:34.000 Right, but my point is, in a civilized country, in like a modern developed nation, I should say, I don't necessarily mean civilized, I don't know, but in like Russia, for instance, if Putin goes to his troops and says, yes, what happened in Israel, haha, we're for it, he's going to demoralize his men.
00:50:50.000 I don't think Russia's the bad guy they've been made out to be.
00:50:52.000 It's like, the reason why we have these like war crimes and these laws is because we're kind of like, dude, we might fight, but, you know, leave the kids out of it.
00:50:59.000 And then we have that hope that the other faction may respect not killing the children.
00:51:05.000 But then, you know, one of the things we've learned consistently in the Middle East is kids are not spared.
00:51:10.000 I was talking to some dudes a while ago in the army who had been deployed, and they said the scary thing is, imagine you're in a convoy, you're in a truck, and you're delivering supplies, and then all of a sudden a little kid walks out into the middle of the road.
00:51:23.000 What do you do?
00:51:24.000 Gotta shoot him!
00:51:25.000 In the military?
00:51:26.000 And the kid has strapped a bomb to his chest?
00:51:27.000 Exactly.
00:51:28.000 And the kid could have a bomb.
00:51:29.000 You don't know.
00:51:30.000 What do you do?
00:51:30.000 Is it an enemy combatant?
00:51:32.000 You don't know.
00:51:32.000 You don't know.
00:51:32.000 I don't know.
00:51:33.000 Don't have the answers.
00:51:34.000 It's like, that's the difficult thing you're dealing with when you're over there, is they will use children.
00:51:39.000 They did in Vietnam too.
00:51:41.000 I mean, it's probably an act of desperation.
00:51:42.000 You know, the Vietnamese, they were living underground because the carpet bombs were so intense.
00:51:46.000 So they would send kids walking into camp with a basket.
00:51:50.000 I don't think it's desperation so much as determination to win at all costs.
00:51:55.000 I think they are willing to sacrifice for that.
00:51:57.000 I mean, that is something that they...
00:52:01.000 If you believe your causes is the most important thing you could ever achieve in your life,
00:52:06.000 then what is the bar?
00:52:08.000 Where is the line?
00:52:09.000 Why wouldn't you send children to do it?
00:52:10.000 Because then they are ultimately serving this great cause.
00:52:12.000 I just got a little... Cassandra just hit me up that the Biden White House has walked back the baby comet.
00:52:18.000 What?
00:52:18.000 Really?
00:52:18.000 This is tweeted out from... Yeah, we're going to have to look at this.
00:52:21.000 Where is it tweeted out?
00:52:22.000 Evan Hill, at Evan Hill.
00:52:25.000 Clarification from the White House regarding Biden's remarks.
00:52:27.000 I've been doing this a long time, Biden said at the White House.
00:52:30.000 I never thought I'd see... Maybe... I never thought I'd see... Oh, man.
00:52:35.000 I see.
00:52:35.000 This is why I say you gotta be skeptical.
00:52:37.000 Don't trust Joe Biden.
00:52:39.000 Washington Post has the story.
00:52:41.000 What?
00:52:42.000 Yeah, that's amazing.
00:52:43.000 Let me, uh... Where, where, what is this?
00:52:45.000 It just jumped.
00:52:47.000 Let's, uh... Let's say, uh...
00:52:52.000 Uh, no?
00:52:52.000 Like, he's got a screenshot here.
00:52:53.000 But he said he saw them.
00:52:54.000 And that he confirmed that they were real.
00:52:55.000 Yes, saw.
00:52:56.000 Confirmed.
00:52:56.000 And then when you click the link to the article, here's what he said.
00:52:58.000 The spokesperson later clarified that U.S. officials and the president have not seen pictures or confirmed reports
00:53:02.000 independently.
00:53:03.000 The president bases comments about the alleged atrocities on the claims from Netanyahu's spokesman and media reports
00:53:08.000 from Israel, according to the White House.
00:53:09.000 But he said he saw them.
00:53:10.000 And that he confirmed that they were real.
00:53:12.000 Yes, saw, confirmed.
00:53:14.000 And then when you click the link to the article, there's...
00:53:16.000 I never really thought that I would see and have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children.
00:53:26.000 I I never thought I'd... Hey, we all knew Joe Biden was a scumbag.
00:53:30.000 But wait, he didn't say he did.
00:53:32.000 He just said, I never thought I would.
00:53:33.000 I never thought I would.
00:53:34.000 ...see and have confirmed... ...pictures of terrorists... Maybe he's more clever than we thought.
00:53:40.000 ...beheadings... He read the script.
00:53:42.000 Yep, weasel words.
00:53:44.000 Assumptive language where, you're right, he didn't say he saw it.
00:53:47.000 He said he never thought he would.
00:53:50.000 He didn't, so he's good!
00:53:51.000 But the implication is, of course, that you did see it.
00:53:53.000 Especially with his big emotional pause, like he's so overcome by his emotion he can't finish his sentence.
00:53:59.000 When I go to the Washington Post link, I just get in a dead link.
00:54:01.000 It's not taking me to the story.
00:54:03.000 Did they delete the story?
00:54:03.000 No, I think they're updating.
00:54:05.000 It is updating, but I'm not seeing what this guy's screen grab is not appearing on Washington Post.
00:54:13.000 Washington Post has now removed it because the White House has had to walk back their walk back.
00:54:16.000 Jeez, what's real, man?
00:54:17.000 This could be a fake debunking.
00:54:20.000 Right.
00:54:21.000 But he never said that he saw it.
00:54:23.000 That clip does not appear in the article.
00:54:25.000 So this screenshot from Evan Hill, who is a Washington Post Visual and Forensic Investigations at WAPO, whatever this link is, is not what he posted.
00:54:37.000 So I don't know where this is coming from.
00:54:40.000 So I don't know.
00:54:42.000 No idea.
00:54:43.000 Yeah, well, let's stand on Biden's words.
00:54:45.000 He never thought he would see it, and that's all he said.
00:54:48.000 So as far as I know, he never saw it.
00:54:50.000 He never claimed to have seen it.
00:54:51.000 He never thought he would confirm that.
00:54:54.000 I have no information.
00:54:55.000 He never said that he did confirm it.
00:54:56.000 It's not good, though, that the leader of our country is being so ambiguous in his speech in a way that could potentially be seen as inflammatory and calling for more intervention on the U.S.
00:55:05.000 It's not OK that it's not clear.
00:55:06.000 This is a time when we need clarity.
00:55:08.000 He is supposed to offer this to the American people, and he's not.
00:55:11.000 Yeah, he just wants to be on the rights of the history, you know?
00:55:14.000 Like Ryan Long.
00:55:15.000 He doesn't really know what statement he's supposed to put up yet.
00:55:18.000 He's waiting to hear it.
00:55:19.000 All I can say is right now, this tweet from the Evan Hill to Washington Post, I'm not seeing corroborated anywhere else.
00:55:25.000 In fact, all of the most recent stories from the past few minutes just show Biden's quotes of him saying, implying that he had seen it.
00:55:32.000 So that Washington Post link is dead.
00:55:35.000 So I don't know what he's posting.
00:55:38.000 So I assume it is, this is what I was saying, I'm skeptical.
00:55:42.000 I'm not about to start trusting Joe Biden, right?
00:55:45.000 There you go.
00:55:46.000 Wow.
00:55:46.000 Did they run it as if he said that he saw, they ran the article that we read earlier.
00:55:51.000 Oh, dude, look at this.
00:55:52.000 NBC, was it NBC News?
00:55:53.000 Biden says he saw, he saw photos.
00:55:55.000 He said that he couldn't, he couldn't, he didn't think he ever would.
00:55:58.000 That's all he said.
00:55:59.000 I never really thought that I would see and have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children.
00:56:04.000 All right, look, if you want to get to Joe Biden, we would never say that you didn't want people to think that you did
00:56:08.000 see it.
00:56:09.000 I think I think to actually verify what he said, you need the two minutes leading up to the statement.
00:56:15.000 I never thought I would see a video of Joe Biden mercilessly beating a child.
00:56:19.000 I never thought I would confirm it either.
00:56:22.000 Yeah, I never thought I would see them confirm it.
00:56:24.000 Yeah.
00:56:25.000 You can't sue me, Joe!
00:56:26.000 I never said I saw a video of it.
00:56:28.000 You said you never thought you'd see one.
00:56:30.000 Exactly!
00:56:30.000 Yeah.
00:56:31.000 Oh, jeez.
00:56:33.000 Oh my god.
00:56:34.000 Wow, this is the beginning, man.
00:56:35.000 This is like, this is the future of warfare, is your mind.
00:56:38.000 Future, man.
00:56:38.000 If they can get you to turn on your neighbors, like, that's how, that's the best way to win is to get your enemy to turn on itself.
00:56:46.000 Alex Jones is ahead of the curve.
00:56:47.000 Info Wars.
00:56:47.000 We need the Info Wars.
00:56:48.000 Yeah, definitely.
00:56:50.000 That's weird.
00:56:51.000 These are wild times, man.
00:56:52.000 Totally crazy.
00:56:53.000 These are wild times, my friends.
00:56:55.000 Do you want to know how wild these times are?
00:56:58.000 It's this wild.
00:56:59.000 Cenk Uygur has formally announced he is running for president.
00:57:01.000 Good.
00:57:02.000 Oh, wonderful.
00:57:03.000 And so we went over this before.
00:57:05.000 Phil Labonte tweeted at him and said, I thought you were born in Turkey.
00:57:07.000 Apparently his parents were U.S.
00:57:08.000 citizens.
00:57:09.000 Wow.
00:57:09.000 Wow, no way.
00:57:10.000 So he was born in Turkey.
00:57:12.000 That's what people are saying.
00:57:13.000 He was born in Turkey.
00:57:13.000 You can Ted Cruz way into this.
00:57:15.000 His parents were Turkish, but were also American citizens.
00:57:18.000 That means that he was born of American citizen parents, and that would, like, write Ted Cruz.
00:57:23.000 He says, yes, I'm running against Joe Biden for the Democratic nomination.
00:57:27.000 Joe Biden is down 24 points on the economy.
00:57:29.000 He has no ability to make up that kind of ground on the most important issue.
00:57:32.000 We need a new candidate now.
00:57:35.000 Here's his website.
00:57:36.000 Is that a third party?
00:57:37.000 No, I just gotta say.
00:57:37.000 Is that gonna run in the DSA?
00:57:39.000 What is this?
00:57:40.000 No, no, no.
00:57:40.000 Bro, hold on.
00:57:42.000 I'm kind of upset about this.
00:57:44.000 This website is poorly done.
00:57:45.000 It is.
00:57:46.000 No, for real.
00:57:46.000 Like, come on, man.
00:57:47.000 This makes me think he's absolutely not serious at all about this.
00:57:51.000 And it's like, here's a chance to get a big platform.
00:57:54.000 This does not look like a legitimate web... I don't know.
00:57:57.000 Maybe I'm just being a dick.
00:57:58.000 I mean, it looks like it's from like 1978.
00:58:00.000 It looks like he whipped it together like three days ago.
00:58:02.000 Like he just started thinking...
00:58:03.000 But he talked about this several weeks ago.
00:58:05.000 He has like a month or two ago.
00:58:07.000 I'm sure you've been thinking about it for years.
00:58:10.000 The most important election of our lifetimes, we need a new candidate.
00:58:13.000 He says Biden is 13 points lower than when he barely beat Trump in the Electoral College, 44,000 votes.
00:58:19.000 Biden is 24 points behind Trump on the economy, the most important issue.
00:58:24.000 Biden is currently trailing Trump when he has to win the popular vote by five points to win the Electoral College.
00:58:29.000 Wow.
00:58:30.000 He says, time off for mothers, paid family leave, higher wages, $50 minimum wage, affordable health insurance, public option, fight corruption, end gerrymandering.
00:58:39.000 Uh, the end gerrymandering thing is like, extremely naive.
00:58:42.000 I think that's just like... Yeah, because like, we've talked about quite a bit.
00:58:46.000 These people will be like, have you ever looked at a congressional map, and you notice there's like a block here, and there's like a little thin line, and then a block there?
00:58:53.000 Yeah, the reason for that, sometimes, Or I should say, the general reason for it is you don't need a congressional district on dead farmland.
00:59:01.000 Like, that's one guy who lives there.
00:59:04.000 You don't need a congressional district on, like, a big plot of government property either.
00:59:10.000 The congressional districts are where people are.
00:59:12.000 And so that means congressional districts are going to be shaped very oddly.
00:59:14.000 That being said, fair point, it is typical among political parties to try and figure out how to win as many congressional seats through gerrymandering.
00:59:21.000 So that I understand.
00:59:22.000 But a lot of the arguments they make for it We don't want to end gerrymandering.
00:59:28.000 We don't want to end this.
00:59:29.000 We want maps to be drawn out, but we probably want a more fair method, a more appropriate method.
00:59:33.000 But I think the actual reality is there is no legitimate way to do it any differently, right?
00:59:38.000 That's just it.
00:59:40.000 There's no way to be like, it should just guarantee for Democrats or Republicans.
00:59:45.000 But anyway, outside of that.
00:59:46.000 You could do a random subsect of people within an area and be like, if you draw one, then you're going to be part of, This caucus this time, if you're draw two, then you're part of this caucus.
00:59:59.000 So your vote goes towards the related caucus.
01:00:02.000 So it doesn't matter where you live.
01:00:03.000 Your vote doesn't go to your locality.
01:00:05.000 It goes to a random, because we're kind of decentralizing where it's not about like, it's all not local anymore.
01:00:11.000 It's, you know, like a polling place, right?
01:00:14.000 Like, that would be very difficult for polling places to To pull off, I think, because I just feel like that's such a precarious bureaucratic system already.
01:00:22.000 Can we add Cenk to the polling aggregates now that he's an officially declared candidate?
01:00:26.000 For sure, he's a far superior candidate to Joe Biden.
01:00:28.000 Would you like to see a Cenk-Biden debate?
01:00:30.000 Because I feel like that could be really entertaining.
01:00:32.000 Cenk would run circles around Joe Biden.
01:00:35.000 I think a lot of people would run circles around Joe Biden.
01:00:38.000 To be fair.
01:00:39.000 I want to see an Ian Crosland-Joe Biden debate.
01:00:42.000 Joe Biden would be confused the whole time.
01:00:46.000 I'd love to.
01:00:47.000 I'd listen to him till his brain starts to work again, and he'd be like 20 years younger.
01:00:53.000 That's my goal with Joe Biden.
01:00:54.000 Get him to snap out of it and remember who he is.
01:00:56.000 I want to see a Joe Biden-Vivek debate so bad.
01:00:58.000 Can you imagine the racist things that Joe Biden would say?
01:01:02.000 Oh, it'd be so funny.
01:01:05.000 He's easy to humiliate, but I'm concerned that he's our commander, so I want him to be strong until he's no longer the commander.
01:01:09.000 Then I don't care what he does.
01:01:10.000 Tommy is 80 years old, dude.
01:01:11.000 He's not going to snap out of it.
01:01:13.000 He's going to degrade.
01:01:15.000 It's called neurogenesis.
01:01:16.000 It's certainly possible.
01:01:18.000 Here's what you do.
01:01:19.000 You pump him full of NAD and stem cells.
01:01:22.000 And psilocybin.
01:01:23.000 And sure, that too, I guess.
01:01:25.000 I don't know about pump full of, but yeah.
01:01:27.000 What about, Cenk, joining the Gavin Newsom-DeSantis debate on November 30th?
01:01:33.000 I'm for it.
01:01:34.000 I'm totally for it.
01:01:35.000 I want Cenk on the debate stage.
01:01:37.000 I think Cenk would do better in the debates than Newsom and DeSantis.
01:01:41.000 No question.
01:01:42.000 I mean, Cenk Uygur is a media personality.
01:01:46.000 He talks for a living.
01:01:48.000 I think it would be absolutely fantastic.
01:01:50.000 I'm willing to bet he would say a lot of things you'd actually agree with, too.
01:01:52.000 I think Cenk Uygur would be a better candidate than anything the Democrats have to offer right now.
01:01:56.000 But I would, I don't want Cenk to win.
01:01:59.000 But that's why I've said before, it's like I'd rather, I'd probably rather have him than any of the other Democrats.
01:02:03.000 At the very least, I think he could be pressured into a pardoning Assange.
01:02:07.000 You know, it's gonna be bad.
01:02:08.000 I think his policies are bad.
01:02:10.000 But I'm more inclined to believe we're gonna, we will get less war with Cenk than with any other Democrat.
01:02:17.000 Newsom is gonna be like, you know, just like B-tier Hillary Clinton.
01:02:21.000 There's more neoliberal establishment garbage.
01:02:24.000 This is great news that he's running.
01:02:26.000 I'm glad that he's running.
01:02:27.000 I want more anti-establishment.
01:02:29.000 I want more, you know, different political backgrounds to be challenging the machine.
01:02:35.000 Yeah.
01:02:36.000 We could get him in here.
01:02:37.000 Yeah.
01:02:38.000 ChunkYogurt24.
01:02:39.000 Should we bring him in here with somebody to debate?
01:02:41.000 We have invited this guy to come on the show like 87 times.
01:02:45.000 Now he's on the campaign trail, so he really wants to be here.
01:02:50.000 We've hosted multiple presidential candidates, I'm just gonna say it.
01:02:53.000 I would love to have him on the Culture War show with Phil or maybe someone else.
01:02:58.000 Yeah, I'll come on.
01:02:59.000 To have like a calm conversation about these issues.
01:03:02.000 I mean, yeah, maybe if it was like you, me, Phil and him, specifically just Culture War discussing policy and stuff.
01:03:07.000 Whereas, you know, like IRLs, like we have a bunch of news articles that we go through.
01:03:11.000 This is the big news!
01:03:12.000 Cenk just announced he's running, that's why we're talking about it.
01:03:14.000 Culture War is Friday mornings, and it's usually much more just like, we're gonna talk for two hours about whatever we feel like talking about, wherever the conversation goes.
01:03:22.000 I'm down, let's, let's, you know, I'll send a message, see if we can book him.
01:03:25.000 Cool, nice.
01:03:25.000 I, I, I, I'm glad that he's running.
01:03:27.000 I think he's better than all the Democrats, I do.
01:03:29.000 And I, and I, I, like, if I had a choice between him or Trump, I'm voting for Trump, no question.
01:03:33.000 But, I mean, to be completely honest, If I had a choice between Joe Biden or Mitt Romney, I'm out.
01:03:46.000 I don't know what Romney's up to, but Biden's so low right now.
01:03:50.000 Romney's retiring.
01:03:51.000 He said, I need to leave because I'm too old.
01:03:54.000 But how about this?
01:03:55.000 That's admirable.
01:03:56.000 Joe Biden or Nikki Haley?
01:03:58.000 Nikki Haley.
01:03:59.000 I can't take the old man, he's not there.
01:04:01.000 He's got Nikki Haley, I know.
01:04:02.000 No, no way.
01:04:03.000 Nuh-uh, not happening.
01:04:04.000 Nikki Haley is like... I don't want to go to war with Iran, I'm sorry.
01:04:07.000 Just vote for RFK at that point, you know?
01:04:09.000 Right, right.
01:04:09.000 We have the nice independent, he's there for a reason, guys.
01:04:11.000 But I don't even like RFK.
01:04:14.000 The reason I bring this up is, where is Cenk on the top ten list of who you would consider voting for?
01:04:19.000 I would say that's three.
01:04:21.000 He's up there for me.
01:04:22.000 Yeah.
01:04:22.000 He's certainly not on the, I never would, because he has a light anti-establishment bent, but he is still fairly establishment.
01:04:30.000 But I can respect that he argued with Hassan about letting criminals out of prisons.
01:04:35.000 And I think, I would look, if I'm looking at Nikki Haley and Joe Biden, and the only other candidate was like, I'll pardon Julian Assange, I'd vote for, I'd vote for Jared.
01:04:45.000 Like, that issue matters a lot to me.
01:04:47.000 I think that was an outright egregious evil committed by the United States.
01:04:50.000 I think Donald Trump wanted to bring Julian Assange back to the U.S.
01:04:55.000 because Julian had information that would benefit Donald Trump and strike at the heart of the deep state.
01:05:00.000 I can respect Trump wanting that information, but ordering that tradition of Julian Assange is just using a man's life for political purposes.
01:05:08.000 But, you know, that's about all I can say.
01:05:11.000 I think that's how it would break down for a lot of people.
01:05:13.000 They would then look at what are my top two issues and who is most closely aligned on those, even if everywhere else I don't agree with them.
01:05:20.000 I mean, if you have two candidates you really don't like, you pick the one that has at least a chance of giving something you want.
01:05:24.000 Well, maybe he'll run as an independent and then really spike the Democratic Party.
01:05:28.000 That'd be so funny.
01:05:29.000 We have multiple independents in the race.
01:05:31.000 But y'all need to understand this.
01:05:34.000 I support Cenk Uygur's efforts here 1 million percent for another reason as well.
01:05:39.000 He doesn't need to run as an independent to spike Democrats.
01:05:42.000 By running, he is pulling donations away from other Democratic candidates.
01:05:47.000 That's it.
01:05:48.000 And donations matter.
01:05:49.000 Contributions matter.
01:05:51.000 Spend matters.
01:05:52.000 And so if Joe Biden was running as the incumbent unopposed, which he should have been in any normal cycle, but because the dude's brain don't work, he's got competition.
01:06:00.000 All those donations are in his pocket.
01:06:02.000 It's one of the reasons incumbents tend to win.
01:06:04.000 That all the money flows to them.
01:06:06.000 They don't have to beat up a primary, for lack of a better term.
01:06:10.000 And right now what Cenk is doing is basically saying, donate to me, and progressives will.
01:06:16.000 They will.
01:06:16.000 And then not every single one, but a lot of them.
01:06:19.000 And that's money that Joe Biden could use that he won't be having.
01:06:22.000 It sort of feels like me and Cenk Uygur and Matt Gaetz were really good friends that used to hang out at Taco Bell and talk politics.
01:06:28.000 Like, that's how I see those guys.
01:06:30.000 Tempers flare, but I don't care.
01:06:32.000 It was more about the ideas.
01:06:34.000 I love it.
01:06:35.000 I love that they're so intense and in their own lane and they're doing their own and they're willing to run for president like... This was the most compelling thing that RFK Jr.
01:06:43.000 said during his announcement that he's going to be an independent, which is that it should be about serving the people and it should not be about I'm going to... He said there has to be a moment where you realize you're not going to get your way on everything.
01:06:56.000 And it's not that I think he is the perfect candidate, but I think this idea that we have to give up the addiction to fighting for the one side we've stuck ourselves on is worth hearing, right?
01:07:05.000 I mean, and we are seeing it bear itself out right now as the news plays out.
01:07:10.000 I cut you off.
01:07:10.000 I'm sorry.
01:07:11.000 No, no, no, no.
01:07:11.000 That was great.
01:07:13.000 I forgot what I was going to say.
01:07:15.000 Were you always conservative or where did you develop politically?
01:07:19.000 Oh, I was one of those 2016 babies that was like always voted left.
01:07:25.000 And what changed?
01:07:28.000 I was sent to, I started doing a bunch of stories that year that were very, because I wasn't really, I mean I was writing for like the New York Times, I was writing for all these liberal places, but I wasn't super political and that summer, Pulse happened, I was reporting on that, that affected me a lot, Islamic terrorist attack.
01:07:43.000 And then I profiled Milo Yiannopoulos for a magazine, which is the first time I'd met him.
01:07:47.000 And then, you know, you're saying all these things.
01:07:48.000 I was like, I've never heard anyone say that before.
01:07:50.000 That's exactly what I think.
01:07:52.000 But it was just sort of, I mean, it was a basic thing of just looking like for the, you know, suddenly looking into everything that I thought, you know, I was one of those, like, I, of course, I believe in equality.
01:08:00.000 I'm a Democrat, you know, I work in the arts.
01:08:03.000 But then I started looking into everything.
01:08:05.000 I'm like, whoa, they're lying about this.
01:08:06.000 And if they're lying about that, why are they lying?
01:08:08.000 Why do they have to lie if they're so right?
01:08:10.000 And then I never really, I think a lot of, and I think a lot of young people are like this too on the left is they don't really think of the end game of what they're advocating for.
01:08:18.000 I'd never just really given it much thought.
01:08:19.000 It was just the platitudes.
01:08:21.000 And in your social circle, it sounds like.
01:08:22.000 Oh yeah, absolutely.
01:08:23.000 And then of course I came out as, you know, not left.
01:08:26.000 I don't really say conservative anymore.
01:08:27.000 I think I said conservative for like a minute, but I don't really know what that means.
01:08:30.000 So yeah, you know what I mean?
01:08:32.000 Like, oh yeah, I was like fired from all my jobs and all that stuff.
01:08:35.000 But yeah, that was mine.
01:08:39.000 I want to pull up this tweet.
01:08:41.000 Ben Shapiro is getting into it with Tucker Carlson.
01:08:44.000 Shapiro responds to Carlson's moral equivalency struggle session here, and I'll play a little bit from Ben for you guys.
01:08:51.000 Tucker, by the way, then continued along these lines.
01:08:53.000 He did an interview with Vivek Ramaswamy, and he likened what just happened in Israel, the kidnapping of women and their rape.
01:09:00.000 I mean, he's showing video of this happening, like, as he's talking about this.
01:09:03.000 He compared that to drug overdose deaths in the United States.
01:09:07.000 Now, I believe we should fully care about the 100,000 drug overdose deaths that happen in the United States.
01:09:11.000 These are two completely different issues.
01:09:14.000 To go this far afield to link the issues, the only reason you're doing this is because you wish to downplay the atrocity that just happened in Israel.
01:09:21.000 You're not upplaying the atrocity of what's happening on America's streets.
01:09:23.000 Those are two different types of atrocities.
01:09:26.000 People who are addicted to fentanyl, sticking needles in their arms, and overdosing is a moral blight.
01:09:32.000 It is a moral atrocity and a moral evil for people to kidnap women, rape them, and drag them back to the Gaza border.
01:09:38.000 Those are not the same thing.
01:09:40.000 So uh, oh man this is interesting.
01:09:43.000 Saying that Tucker is trying to downplay the atrocities of what happened, that's a bold
01:09:48.000 statement from Tucker.
01:09:49.000 Let me play a little bit here from Ben.
01:09:50.000 I'm from Ben, sorry.
01:09:51.000 Let me play a little bit from Tucker here.
01:09:53.000 I gotta say, you mentioned moral outrage and I thought the videos from Southern Israel
01:09:59.000 were morally outrageous and I was offended by them and saddened by them.
01:10:03.000 Me too.
01:10:03.000 Anyone who saw them, I think, was.
01:10:06.000 But you don't have to look far in the United States for moral outrages also on video.
01:10:10.000 There's not a city in this country, not just the big cities, but cities of 10,000 people.
01:10:13.000 I was in one yesterday, that doesn't have some constellation of drug-addicted young people living outside.
01:10:19.000 They call them the homeless.
01:10:20.000 They're drug addicts.
01:10:21.000 And they're addicted to drugs that were imported across an open border, allowed by the Biden administration.
01:10:26.000 And they're dying, more than 100,000 a year.
01:10:29.000 Now, you can call it genocide, you can call it whatever you want, but it's the death of over 100,000 Americans a year and the living death of millions more who are living outside.
01:10:39.000 So, this is interesting because Tucker's talking about 100,000 young people dying from these failed policies.
01:10:45.000 Ben's making it seem like he's just comparing drug overdoses in general to what we just saw happen in Israel.
01:10:51.000 I'm curious what you guys think.
01:10:52.000 Whose team are you on?
01:10:53.000 Team Tucker or Team Shapiro?
01:10:55.000 Well, obviously...
01:10:57.000 Here's Ben Shapiro putting a muzzle in someone's back because he's not crying hard enough about, you know, Ben's number one issue, I assume.
01:11:03.000 It's like, what is... Tucker's being very consistent, he's extremely nationalistic, populist, and he's making a point of Yes, we're all horrified by his images, but, you know, I'm focused on my country.
01:11:16.000 I mean, it's very true to who he is.
01:11:18.000 I mean, he's not saying this is outrageous or anything.
01:11:20.000 Ben's upset that Tucker's not angry enough.
01:11:24.000 I think we're all pretty angry about it.
01:11:25.000 I mean, that's why he had 30 minutes of his show dedicated to it with Vivek.
01:11:29.000 And he wants to say, let's not forget what's happening in our own country.
01:11:31.000 Where's the outrage here?
01:11:33.000 I wish we were all as outraged about what's happening in our country as we are about what's happening in Israel right now.
01:11:37.000 Seems to be what he was getting at.
01:11:38.000 But that's not good enough for Ben Shapiro, apparently.
01:11:40.000 Or Ukraine, when we were all putting up the flags in Ukraine.
01:11:43.000 I wish that we cared as much about what was happening to the people in Appalachia when they were being given opioids in mass and then being made fun of in private emails.
01:11:51.000 I mean, I am not saying that these things are even comparable.
01:11:54.000 I think both parties are maybe making a weird comparison, but there is definitely tragedy in America and it is good to acknowledge that we don't whip ourselves into the frenzy that we have.
01:12:04.000 A hundred thousand dead?
01:12:06.000 Over this stuff?
01:12:07.000 A year.
01:12:08.000 Yeah, I mean, that's, that's, it's, it, you know, like I said, Ben is saying, one, a person, oh, ding, on heroin is a moral blight, but it's an atrocity to kidnap, rape women, and drag them to the Gaza border.
01:12:18.000 Okay, well, Tucker said 100,000 dead.
01:12:20.000 So, you know, we can talk about, like, I absolutely agree in the sense of what Ben is saying, that, yes, beating, raping women, and kidnapping them, and dragging them to the Gaza border is a moral atrocity, well beyond someone overdosing.
01:12:33.000 What Tucker's saying, 100,000 people overdosing, I think gets to the point of something very serious here.
01:12:39.000 Yeah, poisoning an entire society.
01:12:41.000 Poisoning an entire society, right.
01:12:42.000 Yeah, a different kind of attack.
01:12:44.000 But here's the other thing I'll add to this too, it's like...
01:12:48.000 There's a video, I don't know if it was a video, there's a story out of Philly where a woman was raped on a train in front of a bunch of people.
01:12:53.000 I think they filmed it.
01:12:54.000 Oh yeah, uh-huh.
01:12:55.000 Yeah, so women are being beaten, raped, and kidnapped all the time in the United States because of the crime and because of the policies of these soft-on-crime Democrats.
01:13:02.000 These policies are resulting in criminals being released.
01:13:04.000 And then we just had that woman in Baltimore who was presumably raped and murdered on her roof.
01:13:10.000 This tech CEO, now you've got the guy in New York, Ryan Carson I think his name was, who was stabbed and killed.
01:13:20.000 So, you know look, I can understand organized actions by Hamas into civilian areas is an atrocity.
01:13:28.000 But I think Tucker's making a relevant point.
01:13:31.000 He maybe could have articulated it a little bit better.
01:13:33.000 But yeah, he mentioned 100,000 deaths.
01:13:35.000 That's what you would call derailing what Tucker did.
01:13:38.000 He derailed the conversation into another direction that he wanted.
01:13:42.000 That's called a segue.
01:13:44.000 He took them into a tangent.
01:13:45.000 Yes, a tangential segue.
01:13:46.000 But does Ben not watch Tucker Carlson?
01:13:50.000 It would become so out of character if Tucker Carlson came on and started like, We need to go to war, and this is the worst thing that's ever happened in the history of mankind.
01:13:57.000 If it were about another country, you know?
01:13:59.000 This is the other thing.
01:14:00.000 This is Tucker Carlson doing a segue.
01:14:03.000 I support it, personally.
01:14:03.000 Where in a conversation, you'll say, yes, I do understand that you like the color blue.
01:14:08.000 Something else that's blue is the sky.
01:14:10.000 Have you noticed that in the sky, you do this?
01:14:12.000 We do it all the time on this show.
01:14:13.000 I do it particularly.
01:14:14.000 I do free association, where if you're talking about a color, I might mention something else that's the same color, and you're like, that's not what we're talking about.
01:14:19.000 We're talking about this thing.
01:14:20.000 No, that's derailing.
01:14:20.000 Segues are different.
01:14:21.000 You're derailing me right now.
01:14:22.000 Anyway, we're joking.
01:14:24.000 Segues are when we will talk for 15 or 20 minutes, and then we'll be talking about fake news, and I'll say, speaking of fake news, we have this article we segue on by saying.
01:14:33.000 Yeah, it's as if they caught the end of his segment on the attack and then the beginning of his segment on the drug overdose.
01:14:40.000 And he's trying to shift the conversation from Israel into American issues by saying, you know, these things are really, really bad.
01:14:46.000 We have some things that we're really concerned about here in the United States, too.
01:14:48.000 Normal segue.
01:14:49.000 Because he has a presidential candidate on.
01:14:51.000 Right.
01:14:51.000 And he spent the last 20 minutes talking to people.
01:14:53.000 Wasn't he there when it was happening?
01:14:56.000 I don't remember.
01:14:58.000 He's probably really scared. He probably has a lot of fear over there. I mean absolutely his family and friends. It's
01:15:03.000 terrifying He was there. I don't remember I could have misread a tweet
01:15:06.000 online. Oh, I don't know I'm saying I put up this thing being like Ben is safe.
01:15:10.000 He's just observing the holiday.
01:15:12.000 So he's okay.
01:15:13.000 Well, good.
01:15:14.000 I'm like, I could be totally off on this.
01:15:15.000 Nobody I completely respect Ben's email, like emotional state.
01:15:19.000 He's he's highly he's he's highly agitated.
01:15:21.000 I don't mean that to be me.
01:15:22.000 I mean, he's clearly this is affecting his family, probably his friends.
01:15:25.000 Definitely.
01:15:26.000 They're there.
01:15:27.000 I'm sure that, you know, He may know people who are victimized, injured, maybe even killed, but I just want to say, on top of all that, cooler heads prevail, and now's the time to be like, criticizing Tucker Carlson for doing a segue, and maybe, you know, if Ben had approached it more calmly, being like, Tucker, you could do a better job, please, let's, I think it would have landed better.
01:15:49.000 But again, I can understand why Ben's upset.
01:15:51.000 I'm not trying to be a dick.
01:15:52.000 Apparently he left just before it happened, just so you know.
01:15:56.000 And he wasn't on the internet either because they were observing the Sabbath.
01:15:59.000 Do you think it would be a good time to bring Israeli scholars, or I guess you could say Jewish scholars and Muslim scholars together for a conference?
01:16:09.000 They do that all the time.
01:16:10.000 Is it good to do right now, or is it- I mean, why wait?
01:16:12.000 We had Max talking about it.
01:16:14.000 And it's just like, it's never enough.
01:16:16.000 It's just- Maybe if we do it, we could publicize it to another- It's like a new crowd.
01:16:20.000 Cultural episode, we get an imam and a rabbi.
01:16:23.000 And a priest!
01:16:23.000 We could.
01:16:24.000 That would be epic.
01:16:25.000 It'd be super interesting.
01:16:26.000 The thing is though, like, those are good, and it's good when people who are, um, Expert in their field, they're studying their religion, whatever.
01:16:33.000 It's good for them to talk about things, but you have to remember the people on the ground are making decisions to participate in either side of this or not.
01:16:40.000 And so someone having sort of like an elite group of scholars having a conversation doesn't mean that it's going to affect the hearts and minds of the people that are actually living in the realities of both of these countries right now.
01:16:50.000 I'll be honest, I'm most concerned about the kids that are nine, they're going to be 22 in 11, 12, 13 years and remember this.
01:16:56.000 Like the kids in 2009 whose sisters were blown up, They're all in their mid early 20s and they're ready to fight.
01:17:02.000 I'm talking about like the Palestinians that were there during the Israeli attack in 2009 or whatever you want to call it.
01:17:08.000 So in those situations, maybe if we have conversations early now and these 11, 12 year olds that have lost their family members have something to listen to, then maybe that'll help them clear, you know, think properly over the next couple of decades.
01:17:22.000 Well, you know, that's like the best I can do is just talking on a microphone other than going to Gaza, which I want to do too.
01:17:30.000 Yeah, I think that it's not wrong to want to have conversation.
01:17:33.000 I just mean that it's easy for us who don't live in the middle of these countries to say, well, if we just talk about it more, then maybe we'll be able to reach an agreement.
01:17:45.000 I don't live with the cultural and religious complicated feelings that come with both of these places.
01:17:51.000 I live in America and I'm Christian, so some of the things that go on are things that would be very difficult for me to understand.
01:17:57.000 I don't know that we are in a position to offer a solution because, you know, like all conflict and war in history, it's so deeply complicated and it's not just like one thing happened and suddenly they're fighting.
01:18:10.000 This is a very layered, complicated, A contentious relationship that has hit a very serious breaking point and resulted in very serious violence.
01:18:21.000 It's like it's been a thousand years, you know, it's not it's not like it's just gonna go away tomorrow That's one thing that you can shave for sure It's not gonna just end because some people discuss some things and someone viewed them as being there because even within Islam they have different Opinions as to who leads like the spiritual successor of Muhammad on earth.
01:18:35.000 So it's it's not gonna be that easy I just I know what you're saying and I get it.
01:18:38.000 It's noble but outside of a cultural episode.
01:18:41.000 I don't know I want to do a new show maybe every Tuesday Oh, the religious show.
01:18:46.000 One to two to three hours where we fly in religious experts.
01:18:50.000 It could be anybody, but if you guys support that in the audience, give me a five in the
01:18:53.000 chat because I've been thinking about it a lot and I don't think wasting time makes any
01:18:58.000 sense anymore.
01:18:59.000 But I mean, the entire region only functions with strong men in power.
01:19:03.000 Look what happened when they took out Gaddafi.
01:19:05.000 I mean, there are such things as cultures that really only understand force and power.
01:19:09.000 Yeah, it's true.
01:19:09.000 I mean, Russia's a culture that only understands force and power.
01:19:11.000 They want a strongman.
01:19:13.000 I think that's really hard for us to understand.
01:19:14.000 And you say, like, yeah, it's hard for us to understand.
01:19:16.000 It's like, well, let's just talk about it.
01:19:17.000 We have local cops.
01:19:19.000 We've got this local protective bubble that we all live in.
01:19:22.000 So it doesn't really matter if your president's an idiot sometimes.
01:19:26.000 Right.
01:19:26.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:19:27.000 But it's not true, it does matter on the geopolitical stage, it just doesn't really matter as much domestically.
01:19:31.000 Whereas in Russia, if you're president, or in Chile, I don't know, do the Russians have local cops or is it federales all across the federation?
01:19:38.000 I don't remember exactly.
01:19:38.000 I'm pretty sure it's federation cops.
01:19:41.000 I want to ask you a question about Tucker really quickly.
01:19:46.000 Did you see a shift in his style?
01:19:48.000 Because you observed him pretty closely from when he left Fox and now that he's doing his own thing.
01:19:54.000 Well, you know, he's still an employee of Fox News, so he's under constraints about what he's able to do.
01:20:00.000 But just the style of his interviews.
01:20:01.000 Style of interviews?
01:20:02.000 I think that his... I think he's... I mean, it's a different show now because it's long form.
01:20:07.000 I guess it's more similar to that Tucker Carlson Today show.
01:20:09.000 I think that he's probably...
01:20:13.000 I think the lack of structure is probably affecting him a little bit.
01:20:15.000 Positively or negatively?
01:20:17.000 I think he's just probably getting used to it.
01:20:19.000 He's worked a jobby job for a hundred years in cable news.
01:20:24.000 I think the kind of freedom and lack of structure is maybe Is this something you kind of go into in his book, Tucker's time in media?
01:20:30.000 Yeah, I mean most of the book is, I mean it's, you know, his birth, well not even his childhood, his father's childhood, well before that, up until the book ends two weeks after he was taken off the air and he's sort of still dazed by it and going through it.
01:20:44.000 How'd you meet him?
01:20:45.000 I was a regular on his show.
01:20:47.000 I was first, actually when I came out conservative, which was in a piece in the New York Post.
01:20:51.000 Yeah, when I came out conservative.
01:20:53.000 That was the headline.
01:20:53.000 I'm a gay New Yorker and I'm coming out conservative.
01:20:55.000 And that coming out might have been harder.
01:20:57.000 I don't actually know.
01:20:58.000 Oh it was!
01:20:58.000 It was much harder.
01:20:59.000 Way harder than coming out 15 in the middle of the country as gay.
01:21:03.000 But that was February 2017 and he had me on the show because of that article which went viral, which I had no idea it would.
01:21:08.000 Had you been writing biographies before that?
01:21:11.000 I'd written magazine profiles, tons of those, but not this is my first biography as a book.
01:21:16.000 How long did it take to write it?
01:21:18.000 This book was a little over a year.
01:21:21.000 Were you in constant contact with Tucker as you were writing it?
01:21:25.000 Yeah, I tried not to bother him.
01:21:26.000 I bothered him as little as possible to try to respect his time, but I spent tons of time with him at his home and stayed at his home by his insistence.
01:21:34.000 So would you go interview him, take a bunch of notes, then leave, go write as much as you could, and then come back and hit him up again kind of thing?
01:21:40.000 I tried to get it done in like chunks, so I would come hang out for a few days at a time, have my recorder going the whole time, and just kind of be there, and then get home, transcribe it all, go through it.
01:21:50.000 Because I'd already done, you know, there's a lot more, you know, when you're writing about someone's career and all that, there's so much more you're already working on.
01:21:58.000 There's a lot of history there, there's a lot of words out there, there's tons of that, you know, yeah.
01:22:01.000 Did you find that it changed you, learning about someone else and writing someone else's biography?
01:22:07.000 It did, yeah.
01:22:08.000 I think with him particularly and his wife Susie, it made me, not to sound corny, but it made me chill out a bit.
01:22:17.000 It made me kind of remember what was important in life.
01:22:20.000 What do you mean?
01:22:22.000 Just because he's such a, he has a very, he is not an egomaniac.
01:22:27.000 He's not a jerk.
01:22:29.000 He's a really sort of warm and interesting person.
01:22:31.000 He has a very balanced life.
01:22:34.000 He makes sure he can see the stars every night, you know, things like that.
01:22:38.000 And I've been talking a lot about that.
01:22:39.000 He's very into nature.
01:22:41.000 And he has a really lovely wife and lovely family.
01:22:44.000 And so it was sort of one of those like, yeah, I need to remember what's important.
01:22:47.000 It's not what's happening in the news.
01:22:48.000 He's somebody who very much knows that what's happening in the news is not the most important thing in the world.
01:22:51.000 I think that's it.
01:22:52.000 And that's ironic him being, at the time, as he was number one on Fox, you know, when I was doing most of this research.
01:22:57.000 I find myself wondering about that with America, I mean all of Western Europe, the world, but definitely America's workaholic culture.
01:23:03.000 You see people, especially women, delay having children or getting married because they think, oh, my career needs to come first, I need to get to a certain level.
01:23:11.000 And we know ultimately, you know, you could always be more successful, you could always be working for something more.
01:23:16.000 I've quoted this a couple times.
01:23:18.000 It was The Guardian, I think, published this story interviewing men who hadn't had children and they just kept saying, oh, I thought it would happen.
01:23:24.000 So you have these two forces saying, I didn't put my eye on this thing that ultimately makes life sort of have a meaning that you can't just get from dollars and cents or promotions at work.
01:23:33.000 Yeah, that was something I discovered, is that he's so much more interested in the bigger questions of morality, family, faith, beauty, than he is in politics per se, which are far more interesting conversations.
01:23:46.000 And they're the reason we're supposed to have politics in the first place, to uphold our morality.
01:23:50.000 And I think a part of his success was he's the only person that could speak on those things in mainstream media.
01:23:54.000 Number one, because he actually believed them and he wrote all those monologues himself.
01:23:57.000 But you know, he could do a segment about architecture.
01:23:59.000 Like Sean Handy can't do a segment on architecture.
01:24:01.000 He doesn't care about architecture, you know?
01:24:03.000 And also as you brought up starting families, how young women get screwed by feminism and all these other lies that they've been told.
01:24:09.000 And young men as well, which we don't talk about a lot.
01:24:11.000 Which he certainly does.
01:24:13.000 Yeah.
01:24:14.000 I mean, he's got sons, right?
01:24:15.000 How can you not be conscious of these things if you're watching?
01:24:17.000 You went through them yourselves and you're raising another generation of people who are combating these narratives that direct them to be ultimately unhappy and servants to a corporate machine that chews them up and spits them out.
01:24:28.000 Absolutely, yeah.
01:24:29.000 I mean, and yeah, his anti-corporatist stance in the most corporative settings on Fox News was always quite amazing.
01:24:35.000 But it was also so, it's, I mean, so indicative of just these blurred lines of what is left and right anymore.
01:24:40.000 I mean, the fact that the left hates him so much, and yet he, and I think one of the main reasons is that he just so effectively holds a mirror up to What they once were and what they still sort of purport to be, which would be like free speech, anti-war, anti-corporatist.
01:24:53.000 And now they are all of those, the opposite of all those things.
01:24:57.000 And it's the sort of Tucker Carlson, Trumpy, populist right, I guess, that is very suspicious of those things and calls them out now.
01:25:06.000 And that drives the left insane, obviously, because they need to be like their avant-garde fighting the man.
01:25:11.000 But they are the man.
01:25:12.000 But they are the man!
01:25:13.000 They have been for a while.
01:25:14.000 And they have been for a while.
01:25:15.000 It's hard to argue that we're countercultural when they are the They are the culture, right?
01:25:20.000 And they still don't see it!
01:25:22.000 No, they have no idea.
01:25:24.000 Or they do see it and they can't admit it because it's too painful.
01:25:26.000 Or they just shatter.
01:25:28.000 I always bring up how the word bootlicker just disappeared.
01:25:30.000 As soon as they came into power, bootlicker, the worst term, disappeared.
01:25:32.000 There was a term disappeared.
01:25:33.000 I saw all my friends stop saying it because it doesn't fit the narrative for them.
01:25:36.000 You can't say that anymore.
01:25:37.000 But as soon as I guarantee if Trump or another, let's say, like Republican takes office or
01:25:43.000 independent if RFK takes office, that word will come back.
01:25:47.000 Mark my words.
01:25:48.000 Absolutely.
01:25:49.000 I just said there was a drop-down.
01:25:50.000 It was blocked.
01:25:51.000 But, uh, Washington Post does say, So, uh, who do you trust?
01:25:54.000 The Washington Post?
01:25:54.000 U.S. officials and the president have not seen pictures or confirmed reports independently.
01:25:59.000 The president based his comments about the alleged atrocities on the claims of Netanyahu's
01:26:02.000 spokesman and media reports from Israel.
01:26:05.000 So who do you trust, the Washington Post or the president?
01:26:09.000 Well, the president never said he saw them, so the Washington Post is just clarifying
01:26:14.000 So the president's spokespeople who are once again trying to backtrack something the president said.
01:26:18.000 No, no, no, no, no.
01:26:19.000 We didn't hear anything from the spokespeople.
01:26:20.000 We saw a statement from the Washington Post.
01:26:22.000 The Washington Post is claiming that someone said this.
01:26:26.000 Someone told them exclusively that this is, hmm, but they can't name anyone.
01:26:31.000 And it says, a White House spokesperson later clarified that U.S.
01:26:33.000 officials and the President had not seen it.
01:26:34.000 Clarified to whom?
01:26:35.000 When?
01:26:35.000 How?
01:26:36.000 And whose side is the Post on?
01:26:38.000 Are they in the long video?
01:26:39.000 This is the game.
01:26:40.000 I think they're on the wrong side.
01:26:41.000 If Joe Biden says, I never thought I would see it, you're right.
01:26:44.000 He didn't say he saw it.
01:26:45.000 If the Washington Post says a spokesperson clarified, they don't say where, who, to them, to someone else.
01:26:52.000 The Washington Post Could be referencing a tweet they saw from a White House spokesperson who claims to have sent a message to someone about something similar.
01:27:01.000 We have no idea.
01:27:01.000 It sounds like someone in the Israeli intelligence or somebody contacted the Biden administration and told them that they had pictures and they were confirmed, and then Biden, as a bootlick, let's say, Biden the lapdog has just repeated it.
01:27:11.000 He didn't even say, like, I was told... Netanyahu's spokesman said it.
01:27:15.000 Out loud?
01:27:16.000 Yes.
01:27:16.000 So then Biden... Netanyahu's spokesman and media reports from Israel... So Biden's echoing... Right.
01:27:22.000 He's just...
01:27:24.000 Welcome to the fog of war.
01:27:25.000 It's crazy and Biden is contributing to it because either way this is him not being clear in a statement and we can go with he's got an agenda we can go with he has Alzheimer's it's not a strong look for a president and it's definitely going to hurt him in the polls.
01:27:39.000 Tim mentioned this earlier but didn't elaborate but it was the Saudi the the Iraqi thing in the 90s.
01:27:45.000 I mean, that's what made us sort of think of this.
01:27:47.000 And what was the whole story?
01:27:48.000 Was it the Nayyirah?
01:27:51.000 Yeah.
01:27:52.000 Yeah.
01:27:53.000 Was it Nayyirah?
01:27:53.000 Nayyirah.
01:27:54.000 Yeah.
01:27:55.000 Yeah.
01:27:55.000 Claimed that Saddam's forces had pulled babies out of incubators and left him to die.
01:27:58.000 Right.
01:27:59.000 And it turned out to be fake.
01:27:59.000 And it was used to justify the first Gulf War.
01:28:03.000 Yeah.
01:28:03.000 And it was totally fake.
01:28:04.000 I support Israel, Judaism, all of this.
01:28:07.000 But sending them in to commit genocide against the Palestinians will make them the world's most hated country on earth.
01:28:14.000 Not by me.
01:28:15.000 But people need to understand, I know it's like the breaking point has come, it feels like that, but
01:28:20.000 I want to preserve the people. The peop- I mean yeah, it's a challenging position.
01:28:30.000 We don't really know what to say.
01:28:31.000 And I think, again, I really credit Ryan Long for his his well-timed video here, right?
01:28:37.000 Right.
01:28:38.000 So I think people want to ultimately live with morality and have compassion and want there to be a right answer.
01:28:43.000 On the other hand, it is very easy for Americans to say like, oh, well, I read three articles from The Washington Post, so I know what's right.
01:28:50.000 Right.
01:28:50.000 And ultimately we know That even our political leaders are misleading or being misled.
01:28:55.000 There is no clarity on this issue.
01:28:57.000 You can't rush to take a statement.
01:28:59.000 You should condemn violence.
01:29:00.000 You should, you know, pray for people who are suffering.
01:29:01.000 But you can't ultimately say, I know exactly how to fix this because we don't.
01:29:05.000 And what's wrong with saying I'm emotional right now and I don't have to have an answer?
01:29:10.000 I've got a solution, potentially.
01:29:12.000 What do you guys think about offering Palestine to become the 51st U.S.
01:29:15.000 state?
01:29:18.000 Why?
01:29:18.000 Why would we do that?
01:29:19.000 I got an idea, and equally as plausible as Ian's idea, a pizza party for everyone in Gaza and in Israel to come together and celebrate, and then we'll have the Rolling Stones play.
01:29:29.000 I'll tell you why.
01:29:33.000 You too!
01:29:33.000 It would give us a trade post in the Middle East, a permanent place to go, give us a vacation spot like Hawaii.
01:29:38.000 They're not our vacation home!
01:29:40.000 That doesn't make any sense!
01:29:42.000 Ian, what you're saying is a joke.
01:29:46.000 I'd rather buy the Bahamas than bail in Mexico.
01:29:47.000 I'd rather joke around and offer legitimate, funny, weird solutions than just watch people die.
01:29:53.000 Like, what's the other solution?
01:29:54.000 I haven't heard one solution other than that.
01:29:55.000 Alright, here's an equally as plausible solution to yours.
01:29:58.000 We'll have a whole bunch of clowns.
01:30:00.000 I know you're gonna shit on it.
01:30:01.000 That's why I asked them, man.
01:30:02.000 I know you don't like it.
01:30:03.000 You already told me that.
01:30:04.000 It's psychotic.
01:30:05.000 So is this war, dude.
01:30:06.000 You're proposing annexing another country.
01:30:09.000 We can't even get Puerto Rico to be a 51st state.
01:30:12.000 What you're saying is a nonsensical waste of time.
01:30:13.000 We can't even take over Greenland.
01:30:15.000 Yeah.
01:30:15.000 Whatever happened to that?
01:30:16.000 We've barely developed Alaska.
01:30:18.000 This is more of like saving their lives kind of thing.
01:30:20.000 Maybe not a state, maybe colonial.
01:30:22.000 I don't want to oppress them.
01:30:24.000 We already said we were backing Israel in this.
01:30:26.000 We already said they're our allies.
01:30:27.000 I love how Ian's interventionism is so extreme he wants to annex and colonize Palestine.
01:30:34.000 What I want to do is improve colonization.
01:30:36.000 Invite them into this racist country?
01:30:37.000 I want to improve living conditions in Palestine.
01:30:39.000 Because if you support Israel, you improve living conditions in Palestine, they'll stop attacking.
01:30:43.000 No, they won't.
01:30:44.000 No, that's not it.
01:30:45.000 Or there's a likelihood that the attacks will decrease if they're not starving to death.
01:30:49.000 Potentially.
01:30:49.000 No!
01:30:49.000 Potentially.
01:30:50.000 Maybe.
01:30:51.000 But no one can say.
01:30:52.000 You don't know.
01:30:52.000 And I don't think, judging on these actions, that it will.
01:30:55.000 I don't think from the river to the sea has anything to do with food.
01:30:57.000 No, it does not.
01:30:58.000 What do you mean, from the river to the sea?
01:31:00.000 Exactly, if you don't know what that means, maybe you should hold on.
01:31:01.000 Put it in context for people.
01:31:03.000 Okay, so most people who are listening and hearing you talk about making Palestine the 51st state, which you're probably referring to the Gaza Strip.
01:31:09.000 Well, we'd have to partition it with Israel, but yeah.
01:31:12.000 Right, okay, which makes sense.
01:31:14.000 That's already the problem.
01:31:16.000 I don't like it.
01:31:17.000 When they're chanting, from the river to the sea, they are saying they will seize all of the land that is now Israel.
01:31:24.000 They are not saying, we're hungry, help!
01:31:26.000 They're saying from the river to the sea.
01:31:28.000 I understand the militant war goal of Hamas, but that's not the people I'm talking about.
01:31:33.000 I'm talking about the civilians.
01:31:34.000 How would you remove Hamas from this?
01:31:36.000 We're going to annex a country that Hamas is in.
01:31:37.000 44% support.
01:31:39.000 And then we're going to have an occupied vacation home in the Middle East that we are now... The U.S.
01:31:45.000 military would occupy!
01:31:47.000 I don't like Taiwan.
01:31:48.000 Then we would have turned on Israel and have a hostile relationship.
01:31:51.000 Like, I don't understand what this would do for anyone.
01:31:52.000 No, no, Ian's saying the U.S.
01:31:53.000 military should occupy Palestine and force them to our laws.
01:31:57.000 I'm not saying to colonize or to conquer.
01:31:59.000 How else would that look?
01:31:59.000 I want to offer them the opportunity to petition to become a state if they want.
01:32:03.000 Why?
01:32:03.000 Because otherwise they're going to get annihilated and completely decimated and gone.
01:32:08.000 So why would you say that the Americans should intervene on this?
01:32:11.000 I just told you, because we could set up economic trade routes with Israel and Egypt.
01:32:16.000 And then 2.2 million Palestinians can move anywhere they want in the continental United States and God knows how many terrorists are in that population.
01:32:22.000 44% support for Hamas.
01:32:25.000 Yeah, Hamas would probably be their governor.
01:32:27.000 They'd probably elect an Islamic governor.
01:32:29.000 So we would give them all American passports.
01:32:30.000 Do they get senators?
01:32:31.000 So like the squad gets two more members?
01:32:34.000 Yeah, that would be part of the deal.
01:32:35.000 That would be a part of the deal.
01:32:36.000 I mean, they would get senators.
01:32:37.000 They would get representation.
01:32:38.000 Israel can be the 51st state.
01:32:41.000 Actually, my friend that told me this said he wanted to make them both American states.
01:32:44.000 If we're gonna get another state, I say we take the Baja Peninsula.
01:32:47.000 Next time we bail out the Mexican banks, you know, and then we can increase our land that way.
01:32:50.000 At least it'll be attached to us and it's way easier to defend.
01:32:53.000 Why would we take Wait, I think the idea of uniting states doesn't stop in North America.
01:32:58.000 We could have a global citizenry of united, delocalized state governments.
01:33:06.000 What if the sun never set on America?
01:33:08.000 Ian starts working out and now he wants total global intervention.
01:33:11.000 I don't care what they're doing in North Dakota, man.
01:33:13.000 I'm not the kind of guy that would send the feds in.
01:33:14.000 So you don't care what's happening in our own country, but you'd rather send our military forces to two different countries.
01:33:20.000 That doesn't make sense to me.
01:33:21.000 Well, you know, they defend themselves.
01:33:23.000 They have state militia.
01:33:24.000 They have state government.
01:33:25.000 It would take 40 years to set this thing up.
01:33:26.000 And Palestine doesn't have a way to defend itself.
01:33:28.000 They're clearly obviously able to launch violent attacks.
01:33:31.000 Israel is obviously able to retaliate.
01:33:33.000 Don't conflate Palestine and Hamas.
01:33:35.000 I'm not saying that.
01:33:35.000 Why not?
01:33:36.000 Because the Palestinians, a lot of those people are civilians.
01:33:38.000 They voted for it.
01:33:39.000 Some of them.
01:33:40.000 You said 44%.
01:33:40.000 Yeah, that's called a plurality.
01:33:42.000 That's some of them.
01:33:42.000 That's less than half of them, man.
01:33:44.000 And that's voting.
01:33:45.000 And that's only adults.
01:33:48.000 So?
01:33:49.000 So how many kids are in there?
01:33:50.000 And they're not Hamas?
01:33:53.000 Not right now.
01:33:54.000 How many?
01:33:54.000 100,000?
01:33:54.000 800,000?
01:33:54.000 The thing is they're still willing to put like a missile system underneath, on top of a school.
01:33:59.000 I know, they're like held hostage.
01:34:01.000 Children's hospital and stuff like that.
01:34:02.000 I know they're being held hostage, but like, you know, even under Geneva's rules, like if you're using a school or a hospital or whatever, and you're using a missile site there, that's now a military site.
01:34:10.000 It's no longer a hospital or a school.
01:34:11.000 That's why I'm proposing radical solutions because I understand this military doctrine dictates that you wipe them out.
01:34:17.000 I understand.
01:34:19.000 Well, it's a nonsensical solution.
01:34:21.000 It's politically, physically, militaristically, economically impossible to do.
01:34:25.000 Not impossible, but it would be ridiculously hard.
01:34:28.000 Understatement.
01:34:29.000 It is, for all intents and purposes, impossible to do.
01:34:31.000 You need their acquiescence.
01:34:32.000 It wouldn't be a forced thing.
01:34:34.000 First, you'd have to go to full-scale war with Iran, because the moment you bring any kind of U.S.
01:34:39.000 presence towards Palestine for the purpose of offering Annexation.
01:34:43.000 Iran's going to declare full-scale war.
01:34:46.000 Lebanon and Hezbollah are already threatening to bomb the carrier strike group that's there.
01:34:50.000 Like, it's just nonsense.
01:34:51.000 Come on.
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01:35:13.000 Christopher Lambert, super chatted, one day I will be first.
01:35:16.000 It's today, my friend.
01:35:17.000 You've won.
01:35:18.000 I love this race.
01:35:19.000 I think that's so funny.
01:35:20.000 You win.
01:35:20.000 Sweet.
01:35:21.000 Good job, dude.
01:35:22.000 Good job.
01:35:23.000 Noah Sanders says, I know you read my chat last night, but the uncensored episode from last Thursday still isn't working on the website.
01:35:30.000 Thanks for all the work you do.
01:35:32.000 Yeah.
01:35:32.000 Who do we have to- Me and Kellen are working on that right now.
01:35:34.000 We have to figure it out.
01:35:35.000 Is it just something on Rumble?
01:35:36.000 It might be.
01:35:37.000 I haven't actually checked with them.
01:35:38.000 We have to do it.
01:35:39.000 It's noted right here on the desk, though, guys.
01:35:41.000 Well, let's get that up.
01:35:42.000 Let's do it right now.
01:35:42.000 Can you message someone right now and tell them to do it?
01:35:44.000 Yeah, I'll be able to look after the show.
01:35:46.000 All right, well, I'll do it right now because we're not gonna wait till after the show.
01:35:48.000 So we'll just, I'll just get in this and... While Tim's doing that, I'll take the opportunity to shill my concept of making Palestine the 51st state because it's exciting.
01:35:56.000 I think we should make Switzerland the 51st state.
01:35:58.000 And then I think we should also make Japan the 52nd state.
01:36:00.000 Like, we can't just claim other countries.
01:36:02.000 It doesn't make any sense.
01:36:03.000 Of course we can.
01:36:04.000 Yeah, it's moronic. And then I shut the computer off and I was like sitting there.
01:36:07.000 I think we should make Switzerland the 51st state. And then I think we should also make
01:36:10.000 Japan the 52nd state. Like, we can't just claim other countries. It doesn't make any sense.
01:36:14.000 Of course we can. We've been doing it since the dawn of time.
01:36:16.000 Yeah, but people are really against it.
01:36:17.000 I know, I'm British.
01:36:18.000 Let's violate the Geneva Conventions, the Hague Conventions.
01:36:21.000 Let's go to war with Iran, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Jordan.
01:36:25.000 Let's just create... The military-industrial complex grows and grows and grows.
01:36:30.000 Ian's right.
01:36:31.000 Let's go to World War III right now.
01:36:32.000 No more waiting.
01:36:34.000 Send in the strike groups.
01:36:35.000 Instantly have war declared on the United States and all of its allies.
01:36:38.000 And nukes go flying over his proposed idea of annexing Palestine.
01:36:41.000 For the record, World War III began on September 11th, 2001.
01:36:45.000 And America's been winning it.
01:36:46.000 You know what?
01:36:47.000 I'm tired of waiting for the nukes to fly.
01:36:48.000 Let's take Ian's idea to get the nukes to launch immediately.
01:36:51.000 I'm still against them being a 51st state, but it would be much flashier this way.
01:36:55.000 Tim, would you rather be right?
01:36:57.000 Would you rather be wrong or be dead?
01:37:01.000 What?
01:37:01.000 If you had to pick one.
01:37:03.000 What does that mean?
01:37:03.000 Just in general.
01:37:04.000 But what does that mean?
01:37:05.000 Would you have to find out that everything you thought was real, right, was wrong?
01:37:08.000 Or would you rather be dead?
01:37:09.000 I'm wrong all the time.
01:37:11.000 Honest question.
01:37:12.000 Wrong all the time.
01:37:13.000 That's why we bring out a bunch of people from different backgrounds and different political opinions.
01:37:17.000 That's why when I used to say things like, you know, I think there was reasonable gun control, I no longer say these things.
01:37:22.000 That's why we had a legitimate conversation numerous times about abolishing the police and why I've gone on to say that Michael Maus is correct, that police absolutely would kill children.
01:37:31.000 We saw this in Maui.
01:37:32.000 He was right about that.
01:37:33.000 This is like kind of the premise of the show is that we're learning and experiencing and trying to understand the world.
01:37:37.000 But the reality of Annexing Palestine, which fundamentally makes no sense because are you talking about Gaza and the West Bank together?
01:37:46.000 We'd have to partition it.
01:37:47.000 So you're talking about first we have to militaristically force a two-state solution, which would then result in war with Iran and Lebanon.
01:37:53.000 Maybe, maybe.
01:37:54.000 Probably Saudi Arabia.
01:37:55.000 If we forced it, yeah.
01:37:56.000 Right, so we can't do that, so then that's it.
01:37:59.000 Full stop.
01:37:59.000 Right now, before you can offer up your proposal, you need a two-state solution in Israel.
01:38:03.000 Yeah.
01:38:04.000 Okay, then come back to us when that happens.
01:38:06.000 Alright, let's read some more.
01:38:09.000 Raymond G. Stanley, Jr.
01:38:10.000 says, Tim, shout out to BLM, woke college students and far leftists.
01:38:13.000 Thank you for revealing to the world what we've been, what we've always known about you, that you trash human beings.
01:38:19.000 May you continue to show your, yes.
01:38:23.000 I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, you know, a lot of Democrats are coming out and outright being like, there was that guy, David Weissman, I respect, respect what he tweeted.
01:38:29.000 He says the right was right about Black Lives Matter.
01:38:32.000 Yeah.
01:38:33.000 Thank you for, for, for recognizing that.
01:38:35.000 That's good.
01:38:36.000 Just having the right direction.
01:38:38.000 Ryan Hunter says I've been handed a life sentence on X for advocating for the use of lethal force in justifiable self-defense.
01:38:45.000 Y'all won't be seeing me there anymore and my blue check money will be going to the Cast Brew Coffee now, keep rockin'!
01:38:50.000 You know what we're gonna do?
01:38:51.000 We're gonna make Cast Brew social media!
01:38:53.000 We'll make the- on the Cast Brew app, you can post your thoughts- I'm kidding.
01:38:55.000 I thought you were gonna say you were gonna make a blue checkmark roast, but... A blue checkmark roast?
01:39:01.000 It just tastes like blueberries or whatever.
01:39:03.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
01:39:04.000 says, results are in of the Timcast IRL audience poll.
01:39:07.000 Should Palestine be the 51st state?
01:39:10.000 The winner with 42% is no.
01:39:11.000 The second place at 38% is... WTF are you on about?
01:39:18.000 Kholishnikov says, so much for breaking out of an open-air prison.
01:39:24.000 I don't want US to further any involvement, however.
01:39:27.000 I fully support Israel's scorched earth in Gaza.
01:39:30.000 I don't.
01:39:31.000 You see, that's a problem.
01:39:32.000 So, when Lindsey Graham goes on TV and says, we're in a religious war, level the place,
01:39:37.000 they're playing that message right now for everyone in Gaza, saying, see, this is what
01:39:42.000 You have to join us.
01:39:43.000 You have to do these things.
01:39:45.000 That's how you perpetuate war.
01:39:47.000 If Lindsey Graham had gone on TV and said, this is a terrible travesty.
01:39:51.000 What Hamas did was an atrocity.
01:39:54.000 They must be held accountable.
01:39:56.000 And we will do everything we can to protect those who are innocent civilians.
01:40:00.000 That would have played substantially better.
01:40:02.000 Instead, he's just making it all worse.
01:40:04.000 Because these people want war.
01:40:05.000 And they want war with Iran.
01:40:07.000 You ever look at a map and you see, you see Iraq and Afghanistan and what's right in the middle?
01:40:11.000 It's almost like we were surrounding their country.
01:40:13.000 Hm.
01:40:14.000 Wonderful.
01:40:17.000 Cam says, in the Bible, talks about nations will surround Israel in the end times.
01:40:22.000 Crazed that it might happen soon.
01:40:23.000 Love your content, guys.
01:40:24.000 Keep up the fight.
01:40:25.000 That's why someone super chatted us about the red heifer.
01:40:28.000 So I looked it up and I was reading about it.
01:40:29.000 Like, there have been people trying to breed red heifers and import them.
01:40:34.000 Just to, like, accelerate, basically.
01:40:36.000 Do you get into the religious part of it all?
01:40:38.000 Like, are you religious yourself?
01:40:40.000 Do you find the story of the apocalypse and Well I'm certainly interested in it, yeah for sure.
01:40:45.000 So what are you saying with the red heifer?
01:40:47.000 Trying to breed?
01:40:48.000 Well so, I'm not going to pretend to know anything about this other than I read one article, and you need like ten red heifers, a pure red heifer with not a single blemish must be sacrificed to purify the third temple, and they haven't seen one in thousands of years.
01:41:02.000 And so what happens is they're trying, they keep breeding red heifers, and That it'll be born, it'll go, this one's it, and then it'll grow up, and then there'll be like a few hairs that are the wrong color, and like, nope, not pure.
01:41:13.000 It has to be inspected by numerous scholars and rabbis to confirm not a single blemish, a perfect red heifer, and it's been thousands of years since they've seen one.
01:41:24.000 If a genetically engineered one.
01:41:25.000 They're trying with that.
01:41:27.000 They've been trying.
01:41:27.000 It's not working.
01:41:28.000 That's crazy.
01:41:29.000 Like there's always they're all like, there's going to be a few hairs that are the wrong color.
01:41:33.000 It's like blemish.
01:41:34.000 Yep.
01:41:35.000 Some blemish somewhere, a little spot somewhere.
01:41:37.000 Wow.
01:41:37.000 Nothing you can do about it.
01:41:38.000 Yeah.
01:41:38.000 But this person is referring to is like the battle of Armageddon and Megiddo and the Megiddo Valley and stuff like that.
01:41:43.000 If anyone wants to look into it, definitely do your due diligence because it's crazy.
01:41:48.000 Alright.
01:41:50.000 Eric Miller says, Tim, how about making a tribute blend for Cast Brew where all the proceeds go to a cause the Discord is supporting once a month and we get coffee?
01:41:58.000 Yes, perhaps.
01:42:00.000 It's not super easy to set up a blend, and I gotta be completely honest, they don't make that much money.
01:42:07.000 That's just a reality.
01:42:09.000 Like, we want to do...
01:42:13.000 Specific blends for various personalities, like you're talking about Alex Stein, Primetime Grind, 2x Caffeine, and Seamus Coghlan's, you know, Irish Coffee or whatever.
01:42:21.000 But, like, the amount of money that would be made off it is just, it's not even worth, it's almost not even worth promoting individually.
01:42:27.000 That's the problem.
01:42:29.000 It's like...
01:42:30.000 You know, we're gonna do it anyway, but I think based on what it costs us to make, what we make from it, and what the individual, the amount of money we make off each bag, it doesn't, it can't compare to a normal ad read.
01:42:46.000 So asking someone like Alex Stein, hey, do an ad read for this coffee and you'll get the profits or whatever, he would make more if he did a normal ad pitch through any other company.
01:42:55.000 Because we just don't make that much money off the coffee.
01:42:57.000 So, buy more coffee!
01:42:59.000 I suppose, though, if we sold all of it at once, it would be worth it.
01:43:02.000 But based on, like, the amount that we sell per bag, it's not that much.
01:43:07.000 If we launched, like, 5,000 bags and sold them all in one week, that would definitely be worth it for, you know, Alex or Seamus.
01:43:14.000 But I think they're both interested anyway, so we're going to try and do stuff like that.
01:43:17.000 Sounds like once we franchise that you'll start selling 5,000 bags a week.
01:43:21.000 Wholesale is going to be big.
01:43:22.000 If we can start moving like 20,000 to 50,000 bags through a network of smaller stores, that's when people like Alex are going to, or like a charity, is really going to get a good return on this.
01:43:36.000 That's what we're looking at right now.
01:43:37.000 We're working with Chef Andrew Grewal about the franchising agreement and everything we have to do legally.
01:43:41.000 And then we're also looking at wholesale.
01:43:43.000 And the big win, obviously, is once you get a contract at a chain of supermarkets, you're good.
01:43:48.000 Because now you're, like, instantly moving thousands of bags every week or something.
01:43:53.000 You know, a lot of people, they go to the grocery store, they're like, ah, coffee.
01:43:55.000 They'll grab whatever.
01:43:57.000 There's some that I like and some that I don't when I go to the grocery store, but for the most part, we only drink Casper now.
01:44:01.000 I gotta be honest, like, we formulated these blends.
01:44:06.000 Most of them, some, like, there's a Colombian, it's Colombian.
01:44:08.000 But, uh, for that reason, I think, obviously, the best coffee I've ever had.
01:44:12.000 Yeah, it's good.
01:44:13.000 Because, like, I put it together, I'm like, I'm mixing stuff, and I'm like, let's try 30%, 30%, and, like, here's what I like, here are the flavors that I like, and then I'm like, this is the best coffee ever.
01:44:20.000 Did you do, like, the French roast and stuff as well, or are those just, like, regular ones?
01:44:24.000 The French, Colombian, it's just like basic.
01:44:27.000 Basic blends.
01:44:28.000 Right, like we get the beans imported, we have a distributor, they put it all together.
01:44:33.000 But like Appalachian Nights, Roberto Jr., those are blends.
01:44:37.000 Stand Your Ground is a blend.
01:44:38.000 So the stuff that we're making is like a unique, proprietary, specific thing that we put together.
01:44:43.000 Well, French roasts are still good, guys.
01:44:45.000 I like the French Roast.
01:44:46.000 I like Pumpkin Spice.
01:44:48.000 The French Roast and the Pumpkin Spice are my least favorites out of all of them.
01:44:51.000 Yeah, yeah, definitely.
01:44:52.000 But Appalachian Nights is just, wow.
01:44:55.000 That's my favorite coffee.
01:44:56.000 Standing around all day.
01:44:58.000 But Rise with Roberto Jr.
01:44:59.000 sells the most.
01:45:00.000 It's because people want Roberto Jr.
01:45:02.000 It's a celebrity factor, you know?
01:45:03.000 That brand power.
01:45:05.000 Roberto Jr.
01:45:06.000 died.
01:45:06.000 He had a heart attack and died suddenly.
01:45:08.000 Our rooster.
01:45:09.000 He's our true influencer, you know?
01:45:11.000 Uh-huh, yeah.
01:45:11.000 It is crazy, though, that, like, even the rooster is helping sell the product.
01:45:16.000 Appalachian Nights has no mascot.
01:45:18.000 It just, like, it's just... Because we're here.
01:45:20.000 We're just Appalachia, you know?
01:45:22.000 Yeah.
01:45:22.000 And people are like, that's cool.
01:45:23.000 So it does sell well, and it's really good, but people want the rooster on the bag.
01:45:26.000 Yeah.
01:45:27.000 They want that rooster.
01:45:28.000 So I'm like, we'll just put more roosters on bags, I guess.
01:45:30.000 Well, because, and all of the birds, at least as far as I know, all of them have names.
01:45:35.000 At least one point, all of them did.
01:45:36.000 There are so many.
01:45:37.000 Well, now we have RB3.
01:45:38.000 RB3.
01:45:39.000 Yeah, Roberto Jr.' 's son, his heir.
01:45:41.000 Me.
01:45:41.000 And Dorothy, right?
01:45:44.000 No.
01:45:44.000 Dorothy's been around for a while.
01:45:45.000 Who is Roberto Jr.' 's mom?
01:45:48.000 Uh, that was, I believe that was Katarina.
01:45:51.000 She died.
01:45:51.000 Maybe she should get a badge.
01:45:53.000 In her memory.
01:45:54.000 Yeah, had cancer.
01:45:54.000 Cancer.
01:45:55.000 But she's the matriarch of this.
01:45:57.000 Yeah, so the thing is about the original batch of chickens we got, it was in January and we were warned by the farm that this is an early and weak batch, it's still cold out.
01:46:05.000 And we were like, nah, it's cool, and they've been sick.
01:46:08.000 In fact, two of them died right when we bought them.
01:46:11.000 They were weak and sick.
01:46:13.000 And then Roberto Jr.
01:46:14.000 was the first born of the original batch, and he was sick.
01:46:18.000 So it's like, but then we brought in some diverse genetics, and we've mixed them all, and now they're all fairly robust.
01:46:24.000 So, you know, good for the chickens, good for the chickens.
01:46:27.000 We got RB3 now.
01:46:29.000 Looks just like his dad, but he's got white on his wings and body.
01:46:33.000 Alright.
01:46:35.000 Wayafet says, Ben Shapiro pointed out that Hamas doesn't live by Western morals.
01:46:39.000 We think it is insane and wild that someone would behead babies because of our morals.
01:46:43.000 Hamas wants the eradication of the Jews, my people.
01:46:46.000 That's another thing that people don't understand is that if you look at the way Israel operates, it's operating under a very typical Western moral standard.
01:46:57.000 But the Palestinians do not have the same moral standard.
01:47:01.000 This is why the left supports Palestine and the right tends to support Israel.
01:47:06.000 Because you have, on the left, the oppressed versus oppressor.
01:47:09.000 When we had Max on the other day, he was mentioning that Israel has the power here, and therefore, it's like, oh, that's the leftist, moralist view, right?
01:47:16.000 If we don't have that, I don't think power inherently makes you wrong or evil.
01:47:20.000 If the fighting between Israel, if no one was funding them and it was just war, we'd be like, well, the war's going on again.
01:47:26.000 Because you've got war in Sudan and Somalia.
01:47:28.000 How often are we talking about that?
01:47:30.000 The US has a vested military interest in Israel, Israel has become more powerful, and now the left is saying, look, look, they're oppressors, and I'm like, well, y'all are at war, and one side is getting better weapons.
01:47:40.000 I would like it there to be no war.
01:47:41.000 But there's, there's, look man, when one side says, we want from the river to the sea, and the other side is like, please stop attacking us, you know, what do you do?
01:47:50.000 You can make land with volcanic magma by redirecting it into the ocean, and it'll cool down and create more landmass.
01:47:57.000 Yes, and will they clone Jerusalem?
01:48:01.000 At least they're like only nine miles away.
01:48:04.000 The actual solution would be like create a parallel mirror dimension of an equal and opposite Jerusalem.
01:48:11.000 Oh, like in the pod?
01:48:12.000 Negative Jerusalem pod.
01:48:13.000 Pizarro Jerusalem.
01:48:15.000 Yep, and then it's like, well, now which one's the real one?
01:48:17.000 I don't know, but you can have that one.
01:48:18.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:48:19.000 Yeah.
01:48:19.000 I'm not saying Israel's innocent.
01:48:21.000 Or we've got the moon.
01:48:22.000 I mean, there's all kinds of solutions.
01:48:23.000 We could just ship people into space.
01:48:25.000 We're working on Mars.
01:48:26.000 Underground?
01:48:26.000 We haven't really talked much about the underground lifestyle.
01:48:28.000 Nobody wants to live underground.
01:48:30.000 The problem is they're all fighting over the Holy Land.
01:48:32.000 The subway?
01:48:33.000 Were you going to say something, Tim, before that?
01:48:35.000 I'm not saying Israel's innocent, right?
01:48:37.000 Nobody's innocent.
01:48:38.000 Yeah, it's war, right?
01:48:39.000 That's it.
01:48:40.000 It's war.
01:48:40.000 I mean, everybody's innocent, but obviously everyone's complicit.
01:48:43.000 Everyone's involved.
01:48:44.000 If the colonists who came to this country were enslaved and caged by the Native Americans, and hundreds of years went by, and there was a minority population of white European settlers who still lived here, the left would be like, the poor white people, oh, they're oppressed and mercilessly beaten.
01:49:00.000 It's the Marxist worldview of oppressor versus oppressor.
01:49:06.000 Okay, let's grab some more Super Chats here.
01:49:09.000 Oh, we got a stink bug flying around.
01:49:10.000 Uh-oh.
01:49:12.000 Lurch685 says, you guys are full of it.
01:49:14.000 Crying when Israelis chip a nail, but you're silent when Palestinians are massacred en masse.
01:49:18.000 Complete hypocrisy.
01:49:20.000 Occupied people have the inalienable right to resist.
01:49:24.000 Thank you for the free $10.
01:49:27.000 When Hamas broke out of the fencing, And then started killing civilians?
01:49:33.000 I think it's revealing that you called that chipping a nail.
01:49:36.000 So your opinion is understood, and I welcome you to give more money to say it, but we see through what you're really saying.
01:49:45.000 Like, dude, it is reasonable to come out and be like, hey, I don't like what Israel's doing with Gaza.
01:49:50.000 It's an open-air prison.
01:49:51.000 Yes, Hamas should not be targeting civilians.
01:49:53.000 It's bad for them strategically, politically, and it's going to cost them dearly.
01:49:58.000 No, you can't even say that?
01:49:59.000 Okay, then spare me.
01:50:00.000 That's why when I see these leftists are holding signs saying, no more funding for Israel, I'm like, what they're really saying is, they want Israel defenseless so they can eradicate them.
01:50:07.000 Right, yeah.
01:50:09.000 That's why I can't stand that, because it's like, I'm like opposed to foreign aid for libertarian reasons, and like America reasons.
01:50:16.000 I don't, you know, like what's going on, it's not been justified.
01:50:19.000 But these people are like, yeah, I agree, no funding for Israel, because they actually want to go and start killing people.
01:50:25.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:50:28.000 We'll grab some more Super Chats.
01:50:30.000 Matthew Reckamp says, what Tim is talking about is called semantic shift.
01:50:33.000 My favorite example of it is how the original Old English meaning of silly was blessed.
01:50:38.000 Wow.
01:50:39.000 Really?
01:50:40.000 I didn't know that.
01:50:41.000 That's interesting.
01:50:42.000 And I believe the word sink was created by Shakespeare.
01:50:46.000 The kitchen sink.
01:50:47.000 Huh.
01:50:48.000 There's like a bunch, he like invented a bunch of words.
01:50:49.000 He did invent a lot.
01:50:51.000 So many words.
01:50:53.000 Neglectful Sausage says, when Biden said finish the job, he meant the Crusades.
01:50:58.000 Did the Christians start the Crusades?
01:51:00.000 I was trying to remember.
01:51:02.000 Yes, the Crusades were Christians going down to recapture the Holy Land in Jerusalem.
01:51:06.000 Okay, when the Ottomans had it?
01:51:09.000 Probably.
01:51:10.000 I don't think the Ottoman Empire was like, it was exactly the thing, but they're just taking from whoever had it at the time.
01:51:14.000 Yeah.
01:51:15.000 It's been a lot of them.
01:51:16.000 I think three or four crusades.
01:51:18.000 There are more.
01:51:19.000 Well, there are jihads.
01:51:20.000 There would be a crusade, then a jihad to take it back, then a crusade to take it back, then a jihad to take it back.
01:51:24.000 Yep.
01:51:25.000 That's why this is not going to be sorted out too easily.
01:51:27.000 It's going to take a while.
01:51:29.000 Heath Hansen says, I know it's been suggested before, but you guys should read The Storm Before the Storm about the fall of the Roman Republic.
01:51:35.000 The parallels to today are striking.
01:51:37.000 Love from the great state of Iowa.
01:51:40.000 I mean, honest question, why can't the Palestinian people, if they are in an open-air prison, go to, say, Jordan or Saudi Arabia?
01:51:47.000 Or Egypt.
01:51:48.000 Egypt or Lebanon.
01:51:49.000 Why don't these countries want to accept these poor refugees who are trapped in an open-air prison?
01:51:54.000 Because the point is for them to be trapped in an open-air prison.
01:51:57.000 Right.
01:51:57.000 It's to have that, because they want the leverage to make Israel look bad, to attack Israel and take over.
01:52:01.000 The point is taking over Israel.
01:52:03.000 Yeah, at the end of the day.
01:52:04.000 Yeah, at the end of the day.
01:52:05.000 So of course they're not going to want to move those people into their own countries and safe countries.
01:52:11.000 Exactly.
01:52:12.000 Oh, here's a good one.
01:52:12.000 M says, Madeline Albright said, it was worth it when talking about half a million children dying in Iraq based on lies.
01:52:18.000 So she's a terrorist, right?
01:52:20.000 Yes.
01:52:20.000 Yeah.
01:52:21.000 Absolutely.
01:52:21.000 Yes.
01:52:23.000 No question from us.
01:52:24.000 I don't know what you think here.
01:52:26.000 We agree.
01:52:28.000 Barack Obama should be criminally charged.
01:52:30.000 He should be retroactively impeached and then criminally charged for the killing of Anwar al-Awlaki and Abdulrahman al-Awlaki.
01:52:36.000 Make your arguments about Anwar being a jihadi and fighting against America, fine, but we're not going anywhere with Abdulrahman.
01:52:43.000 If you accidentally kill somebody, that's manslaughter.
01:52:45.000 Barack Obama ordered a drone strike that killed an American citizen.
01:52:48.000 Lock him up.
01:52:48.000 You want to complain about Donald Trump ordering a commando raid in Yemen which killed an eight-year-old American girl?
01:52:53.000 Absolutely.
01:52:53.000 Investigation.
01:52:54.000 Get the evidence.
01:52:55.000 You prove it bound to reasonable doubt.
01:52:56.000 Lock him up.
01:52:57.000 Impeach him.
01:52:58.000 All that jazz.
01:53:00.000 I will always issue the clarification.
01:53:02.000 The drone strike in Yemen, we know.
01:53:03.000 It's been confirmed and admitted to.
01:53:05.000 And the commando raid in Yemen, while confirmed, we don't have the same hard evidence of the killing of the eight-year-old girl.
01:53:11.000 Those are allegations as of right now.
01:53:13.000 I think they should be investigated. 100%.
01:53:16.000 No free passes.
01:53:17.000 No free passes for American war crimes.
01:53:20.000 So, uh, yeah, you want to complain about the Iraq war?
01:53:23.000 Bro, that's what we are all on about.
01:53:25.000 The Iraq war was disgusting.
01:53:26.000 We shouldn't have been there or Afghanistan.
01:53:28.000 The US really just wants to get that cheap gas, don't they?
01:53:31.000 And they won't build nuclear power.
01:53:33.000 How about that?
01:53:35.000 Anyway...
01:53:36.000 Why if that's a special force have been offered to help rescue hostages since some of the hostages are American citizens?
01:53:41.000 That's right.
01:53:42.000 And what they're saying is right now it's logistics and finance.
01:53:45.000 They're saying no actual boots on the ground, but I fear that it could get to that degree because it's what they do.
01:53:51.000 It's what they do when people get kidnapped.
01:53:54.000 That's a good point.
01:53:54.000 Alexander says, shouldn't pro-Palestine American protesters also care about the Americans killed
01:53:59.000 or taken hostage?
01:54:00.000 Also, shouldn't we evacuate Palestinian Americans from Gaza?
01:54:03.000 War is hell and we are funding both sides.
01:54:06.000 War is hell and we are funding both sides.
01:54:08.000 That's a good point.
01:54:10.000 Yep.
01:54:11.000 Especially if it's true that weapons from Ukraine and Afghanistan are leaking into Gaza.
01:54:16.000 You know where we are getting that money from is the central bank.
01:54:21.000 So really it's the central bank that's funding it.
01:54:23.000 And they're making money on it because they're getting interest back on their loans.
01:54:30.000 Lurch says, I effing told you guys.
01:54:32.000 Lurch is also the person who said that the terror attack on civilians and the murder of civilians was chipping a nail.
01:54:39.000 Yeah.
01:54:40.000 Same dude.
01:54:41.000 Oh.
01:54:41.000 Well, hold on.
01:54:42.000 Lurch.
01:54:43.000 If you think that a bunch of dudes storming into a music festival in a bunch of small towns and massacring people is chipping a nail, then you clearly have no issue with what Israel does in Gaza.
01:54:52.000 Because, you know.
01:54:53.000 Got him.
01:54:54.000 That's stubbing a toe.
01:54:55.000 Yeah, why do you care?
01:54:57.000 Oh, Palestine stubbed their toe.
01:54:58.000 Oh, come on, man.
01:55:00.000 I can't stand the people who are like... We recognize it's war, and war is bad.
01:55:07.000 We want there to be no war.
01:55:09.000 But you're not winning any favors from people who were born after the start of it by celebrating the killing of civilians.
01:55:16.000 Sorry.
01:55:16.000 That's what I was saying to Max the other day.
01:55:17.000 I'm like, okay, Hamas, they feel their only strategy and only tactic is military and the kidnapping of civilians.
01:55:23.000 Then they've lost internationally and they are resigned to their prison.
01:55:27.000 Because the way I see it is, if there's somebody locked in jail and they're screaming, I'm innocent, I'm innocent, let me go, I shouldn't be here.
01:55:34.000 And then you're like, man, I don't know.
01:55:36.000 Maybe you are.
01:55:37.000 That's horrifying if you are.
01:55:39.000 And then he breaks out one day, runs full speed towards some random 20-year-old woman and mercilessly beats her to death.
01:55:44.000 I'll be like, y'all should probably be in prison.
01:55:46.000 Yeah, but then if the prison guards start exterminating all the prisoners, then you're like, whoa, who's the bad guy now?
01:55:52.000 Well, it's more like... What did the prisoners do?
01:55:54.000 They were like causing ruckuses and like, which one of them are evil?
01:55:57.000 We don't know, but we're gonna let this one out.
01:55:59.000 And he turned out to be one of the bad ones.
01:56:00.000 So you're saying that a bunch of prisoners are No.
01:56:03.000 making weapons and shivs and guns.
01:56:05.000 Chaos in the prison.
01:56:07.000 And then they break out and start killing people.
01:56:09.000 So the prison guards start shooting at them.
01:56:11.000 I'm like, uh-huh.
01:56:11.000 They think it's so like what happened is the prisoner some of
01:56:14.000 the prisoners break out.
01:56:15.000 They kill a bunch of people.
01:56:16.000 So the prison guards kill those or they maybe not then what they
01:56:19.000 turn their eyes on all the prisoners that are still behind bars.
01:56:21.000 What do they do to them?
01:56:22.000 Because that's what that's those people in Gaza right now.
01:56:24.000 No, they're not.
01:56:24.000 You're implying that Israel looks at Gaza and says, let's just kill people.
01:56:26.000 That's what you said.
01:56:26.000 You're implying that Israel looks at Gaza and says, let's just kill people.
01:56:34.000 No.
01:56:35.000 That's what you said.
01:56:36.000 It's like they're in the way, kind of.
01:56:38.000 Is that Israel is targeting the military and weapons depots, the Hamas depots, where they're
01:56:44.000 storing weapons and their base of operations.
01:56:48.000 And you can argue that Israel takes a wide respect to what that means, and there's a lot of collateral damage, but the implication would be that after a bunch of dudes put a bunch of weapons together in the hospital as a staging ground, then broke out and started killing people, the guards started opening fire on the hospital area, and there were workers and stuff in there who got hit as well, and they were innocent.
01:57:10.000 This is called war, and it's called collateral damage, and it's why war is BS, and it's why we hate war.
01:57:15.000 Because collateral damage always happens.
01:57:17.000 I don't know what to say, man.
01:57:19.000 My point is, if they were really like, hey, we're in an open-air prison and they broke out, maybe they would run from the prison.
01:57:26.000 Maybe they would run to the area where they were safe and outside of the prison.
01:57:31.000 So the argument about them being in a prison, I think, is nonsense.
01:57:34.000 Because a prison is something you break out of and escape from.
01:57:37.000 No, the argument is the land that Israelis live on 75 years ago was theirs and they want it back.
01:57:43.000 Okay, well now you're at war.
01:57:45.000 That's not about being in prison.
01:57:46.000 That's about you wanting to go to war.
01:57:49.000 That's why when they break out, they go to war.
01:57:51.000 So the left lies about everything.
01:57:53.000 They're in an open-air prison trying to escape.
01:57:55.000 They're marching peacefully.
01:57:56.000 I'm like, bro, if they were trying to escape from prison, they'd run.
01:57:58.000 Max Blumenthal last night was saying that they would... I'd never heard this before.
01:58:02.000 They would put their weapons away and walk barehanded to the gates and be shot and killed on their way.
01:58:08.000 They get shot in the legs, get shot.
01:58:09.000 And they're like, well, if we can't petition with our hands open, then what?
01:58:14.000 That was hard to hear.
01:58:15.000 And I suppose the issue is that's the Palestinian argument.
01:58:19.000 The Israeli argument is probably they actually did have weapons.
01:58:22.000 They were hiding them.
01:58:22.000 Not every one of them did, but a leftist tactic that we see in the United States, they will call for a public peaceful protest.
01:58:29.000 What they're really trying to do is build body mass numbers so that the people with weapons can go and hide in the crowd.
01:58:34.000 Exactly.
01:58:35.000 Yeah.
01:58:35.000 So when they were like, we were marching peacefully, Israel's probably like, dude, like one in 10 had a gun and they were planning on sneaking through the crowd and shooting at people.
01:58:41.000 It's their only weapon is international public opinion to be like, no, look what they're doing to us.
01:58:46.000 Look, they killed all the children that we threw at them to kill.
01:58:48.000 Yep, exactly.
01:58:49.000 They were used as shields.
01:58:50.000 It's their only weapon!
01:58:51.000 I mean, obviously the weapon's not the murder people in terrorist attack, but their most powerful weapon is international opinion and bleeding heart Western liberal governments.
01:58:59.000 Joseph Metzler says, Jordan took in 500,000 of them and they caused many problems.
01:59:04.000 Jordan killed 30,000 in one summer and forced them all back to Israel.
01:59:09.000 Wow, I did not know that.
01:59:10.000 Well, I don't know.
01:59:11.000 Fact check!
01:59:12.000 What's the number of Palestinians who had Israeli work visas?
01:59:16.000 30,000, I think?
01:59:17.000 Don't know.
01:59:18.000 Every day?
01:59:18.000 Something like that?
01:59:19.000 They go back and forth?
01:59:20.000 They get to work in Israel?
01:59:21.000 They go back?
01:59:22.000 Yeah, I don't know.
01:59:23.000 I mean, it wasn't... Well, there are people of, like, they're Arab Israelis who live in Israel.
01:59:28.000 Yeah, of course.
01:59:29.000 Christian Israelis.
01:59:30.000 Certainly mosques and churches in Israel.
01:59:30.000 And Christian, right.
01:59:32.000 Yeah, there's like 400, you know?
01:59:34.000 It's a lot.
01:59:35.000 It's not a little amount.
01:59:36.000 And there's tons of asylum seekers in Israel from Palestine who are gay, who apply for asylum in Israel because they'll get killed in Gaza.
01:59:44.000 Queers for Palestine.
01:59:46.000 Yeah, if anyone hasn't seen Alex Stein's Gays for Palestine thing in Plano the other day, it was hilarious.
01:59:51.000 It's pretty good.
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