Jack and the crew are back in action after a long break. They discuss the latest in the war in Afghanistan, including the news that the president of the United States ordered troops to withdraw troops from Bagram Air Force Base, and the reaction of the media to the decision.
00:00:45.000So, you know, we're all contemplating and, you know, the catastrophe in Afghanistan, the loss of American lives, the Americans that are trapped there.
00:00:53.000And, you know, Biden said, like, nobody saw this coming.
00:00:55.000We didn't think it was going to happen.
00:00:56.000then a phone call gets leaked where he knew it was happening and didn't provide air support
00:01:01.000after the president of Afghanistan asked him to, where he had previously just a few weeks
00:01:05.000earlier, quietly pulled American troops out of Bagram Air Force Base in the dead of night,
00:01:09.000shutting off the electricity and not telling anybody, let alone the Afghan allies.
00:01:13.000So when you see this and you know that we, I mean, it should have been obvious that they
00:01:17.000were asking for help, but the president of Afghanistan before Kabul fell to the Taliban
00:01:22.000said we need air support and Biden was like, just tell everybody it's all fine.
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00:03:51.000So we're just hiring more and more journalists.
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00:04:11.000Dude, you hired a bunch of people, because I haven't been here in about six weeks.
00:04:45.000From Timcast.com, Biden urged Afghan President to change the perception of Taliban's imminent victory, Reuters reports.
00:04:52.000New details are emerging from the final phone call between US President Biden and the Afghan President Ashraf Ghani, with reports claiming Biden urged the foreign leader to change perceptions that the Taliban was winning the war.
00:06:03.000Maybe I'm wrong because I'm not a military guy.
00:06:05.000The Biden administration could have said, all right, it's currently May.
00:06:08.000By July 1st, we will leave, which gives us a month to get in some Afghan security forces, Afghan National Army, to start replacing the people who run the Air Force Base so that you can properly take it over, have the logistics, and then start dealing with the Taliban should they come in after we leave.
00:06:24.000Instead, in the middle of the night on July 1st, they turned the lights off, cut the power, and fled without telling anybody.
00:06:33.000And then when the Afghan army found out, they went in and secured it and arrested people.
00:06:37.000But you gotta imagine, by July 23rd, about three weeks before the fall of Kabul, when the president of Afghanistan is like, yo, Biden, we need some air support.
00:06:46.000They already abandoned the Air Force base without telling him.
00:06:48.000And Biden's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll provide you with air support.
00:07:12.000And those lies just multiply and add up and build up and add up and build up to where Joe Biden is like, hey, we really have 300,000 troops there.
00:07:18.000They're really going to be helpful for you.
00:07:26.000The guy needs to be put into a nice, comfortable rocking chair with a blanket over his lap and a nice book in his lap if he can read and a cup of tea and the whole thing.
00:07:35.000Somebody pat him on the head every once in a while, tuck him in, wipe his nose.
00:07:41.000Well, I'm not volunteering or sticking that on anybody, but like it's, it's, it's compounding lie after lie, after lie, after lie, after lie, after lie, after lie, after lie.
00:07:51.000And, you know, really the president is a guy that's up there playing risk.
00:07:54.000You know, he's got the board, he's got the pieces.
00:07:56.000He can only depend on the information that he's been giving.
00:07:59.000And it's, from my perspective, it seems like the entire military industrial complex is just filled with liars, scoundrels, and thieves who are not doing their job.
00:08:17.000I think that that when you've got Biden and his team and the wokefied
00:08:21.000apparatus that's now taking over everything, their focus is always on the wrong
00:08:25.000thing. They're always focused and they're putting their attention on the wrong
00:08:29.000So whenever they take action, it's the wrong action because their focus is on wokeness.
00:08:34.000It's on, you know, making sure that the, uh, one of my words, I can't say over here, making sure that the, uh, army is diverse enough, making sure that they're dealing with white rage and these things.
00:08:44.000And, and they're not making sure that the facts and the information that they're getting are accurate.
00:08:48.000And so they're just taking these things at face value.
00:08:50.000Basically, you can't take anything at face value anymore.
00:08:57.000Imagine the military is a bunch of, you know, you ever see that meme where it's like two people standing on a cliff and it's like a beautiful city and they're hugging and then holding the cliff up as a bunch of soldiers that are like bleeding and one guy's pointing a gun and they're holding it up.
00:09:11.000It's making a point about how this comfort and this luxury is based on it.
00:09:14.000So imagine that support structure of all of these dudes holding up society.
00:09:19.000Not that I'm a fan of the Afghan war by any stretch of the imagination.
00:09:22.000But you start corrupting and rotting those support beams, and they start just writhing and falling and collapsing, and then eventually the structure loses support, the whole thing falls down.
00:09:31.000So is it really lies, or is it... Here's the way I see it, and I'll do a side note here.
00:09:36.000We got a video, we got a strike on TikTok.
00:09:39.000Because I said in a video, it's clear Biden is in charge, that there are no adults in the room, and that when Biden's talking in his meetings and says stuff, people just go along with whatever he says and don't challenge him.
00:09:53.000He's got sycophants and bureaucrats who don't want to stick their neck out, and Biden's clearly not with it.
00:11:28.000In that sense, I would say... When I say I don't know if we are winning, it's like it's 20 years in attrition, and soldiers are dying every year, and there were some serious attacks the past few years, and I'm like, I don't know if it's winning if we're in a country we don't need to be in to colonize our nation-build from people who don't want us to be there.
00:11:43.000I don't know what we're trying to win other than invading this country, but from what you're saying, in that sense, yes.
00:11:49.000We... Not only did we have control of the country, But we did have the Afghan National Army.
00:11:54.000And I think this story is the perfect example of how it all broke.
00:12:09.000The administration made sure to find the one support beam they could strip out to make sure it all went smack down and collapse on the way out.
00:12:16.000They, they pulled logistics and air support.
00:12:18.000They abandoned the Air Force Base around Kabul or Bagram near Kabul.
00:12:55.000Cause the whole point, I guess, well not the whole point, but one of the points of being there was to build up this army that was going to be able to defend Afghanistan from all these other bad guys.
00:13:03.000And in the very first possible moment where they were there to do the job that they were trained for, they didn't just do the job poorly.
00:13:15.000They just said, just kidding, we're not even doing it.
00:13:21.000I think they certainly did a poor job, but there's a video of Afghan commandos fighting back, defending territory from the Taliban, and they run out of ammo.
00:13:31.000And the Taliban comes in, so they drop their guns, and the Taliban executes them.
00:14:09.000They did fight, and not every single one, but we had Afghan National Army defending the Kabul airport.
00:14:15.000And I think, you know, initially, this was my mistake too, when Biden came out and said, you have Afghan security forces unwilling, or he said, why should we send the next generation of Americans to fight a war the Afghans are not willing to fight themselves?
00:14:43.000So I'm sure some of them were definitely, you know, died in the war, true believers, Afghan army fighters wanting to defend themselves and their country from the Taliban.
00:14:52.000But if you take it a couple of other data points, one, the Pew study that says 99% of Afghanistani citizens want to have Sharia law enacted.
00:14:59.000And you contrast that with our efforts to take Afghanistan into modernity by teaching them gender studies, by trying to actually, you know, encourage homosexuality and all these things and women's rights and yada, yada, yada.
00:15:13.000The culture, the culture, culture clash.
00:15:16.000I'm thinking of that Cullen Brothers movie, Culture Crash.
00:15:19.000The culture clash there was irreconcilable, and the civilizational clash was irreconcilable.
00:15:25.000And just one last point on this, the whole American military machine is supported by this enormous logistics infrastructure, right?
00:15:34.000Air support, weapons research and development, supply chains, manufacturing, all these things.
00:15:41.000And they trained, apparently, and I'm not an expert, but I do talk to many, they trained the Afghan army to operate the same way that the United States military does, which requires this gigantic infrastructure behind it.
00:15:53.000And so the minute you pull that infrastructure out, well, then, of course, it's stupid.
00:15:57.000It's like giving the whole Afghan army a bunch of Teslas to drive and then taking away the electricity.
00:16:04.000That's actually a really good metaphor.
00:16:06.000There's a photo, I don't know if it's real, but it's a Taliban guy pointing a gun at a bunch of civilians who are like shocked and scared and they're standing up against a wall of like the UN security goals or whatever.
00:16:17.000I don't know if that's true because it's awfully convenient but I'm like it was a convincing photo nonetheless and it was like here's our sustainability goals you know or whatever the plan they've got the website.
00:16:26.000Taliban's all about the memes these days I hear.
00:16:46.000And then we also have the Biden administration is now considering giving the Taliban cash aid if they uphold their international obligations.
00:16:54.000So it seems like Biden's strategy was like, well, We can pay to have people there on the ground, securing the country indefinitely, or we can pay the Taliban to just do whatever, as long as they do the things we like.
00:17:09.000You give the Taliban cash, you encourage all the bad things they're doing, because then they're like, we'll keep doing bad things unless you give us more money.
00:17:15.000Then you give them money, the bad things go down for a few months, and they start coming back, and they say, well maybe you gotta give us more money.
00:17:21.000It's like that trope where the private detective walks in and he's like, I need information.
00:17:26.000And then he's like, you know, maybe I need a little cash.
00:17:29.000And then he hands him money and the guy goes, maybe I need a little bit more.
00:17:31.000And he keeps milking it as much as he can.
00:18:34.000That was a radical transformation of American foreign policy that was doomed from the start.
00:18:39.000It's representative of progressive ideology.
00:18:41.000And it has now played out over 20 years, where along the way, we tried to gender studies them up and the whole thing to make them peaceful and modern, just like us.
00:18:50.000And it failed, it failed, it failed, it failed.
00:18:52.000It's dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb all down the way.
00:18:54.000What did we do back in... Let me make sure I have the year right.
00:18:59.000What was the Cold War era in Afghanistan, the 1970s?
00:19:02.000Who was it that was being trained and armed in the 1970s in Afghanistan by the United States?
00:19:08.000Some bad guys that came later to blow us up.
00:20:40.000arms and funds the Mujahideen, they become the al-Qaeda and the Taliban, justification for our wars in the Middle East, once again, and are we on that same track?
00:20:57.000Now, but you brought up a lot of points.
00:20:59.000Just give me just a little bit of space to get to them.
00:21:02.000I have talked to a number of experts, military experts, US special forces, captains and pilots that have flown this type of equipment that is there on the ground, who operated in theater, logisticians, whose job it was to support the aircraft and the helicopters that are on the ground in Afghanistan.
00:21:16.000And to a man, each single one of them told me the same thing.
00:21:19.000One, any of the technology that we gave the Afghanistan army was old, old stuff.
00:21:24.000It was not the latest and greatest, none of it.
00:21:26.000We didn't give them the highest, latest and greatest weapon, weaponry systems.
00:21:29.000And they weren't even the latest and greatest Blackhawk versions.
00:21:32.000Two, that China and Iran have both had access to this technology since the 80s.
00:21:38.000Three, that it will be impossible to sustain and maintain this hardware in that desert without the massive logistical support that comes with the United States military.
00:21:48.000So, uh, and again, I get tons of pushback on this on Twitter.
00:22:46.000So all these arguments that I'm hearing about Iran's going to help Afghanistan and we're giving them all this equipment and whatever, upon further investigation, not all of that holds up.
00:22:55.000I mean, well, I wouldn't say that doesn't hold up.
00:22:58.000And obviously, look, we're a bunch of guys on the internet talking about this great war, and I'm sure there's some like, you know, E4 or whatever, who's like, he knows so much more than we do.
00:23:07.000But I've talked to the guys that actually know who are in the field that fly the things, that fly the things in Afghanistan, that have been there and done it and supported it.
00:23:16.000In order to do a hardware overhaul on a Blackhawk, it takes a year to disassemble it.
00:23:23.000Before it takes two years to put it back together.
00:24:54.000And I was just watching the Patriot the other night and it's a historical significance aside, a powerful movie, but there's a great line in there where Mel Gibson's like, you know, I taught you every back trail and cave and hideout in this region.
00:25:07.000And that's what I've always been taught about the American revolution is that we ultimately won mostly because we knew the train and we could act in a guerrilla fashion, et cetera.
00:25:16.000But look, I think that's a myth actually.
00:25:19.000It wasn't because we stood up in front of the British and just shot more musket balls.
00:25:22.000No, it was because the French intervened and Britain was strained.
00:25:26.000And then, I mean, the revolution went on for 20 years.
00:25:29.000You know, the formal declaration happens sometime after there was already revolution and rebellion.
00:25:34.000And there was shooting and the British Empire was finally like, we can't do this anymore.
00:25:38.000But I do think the Grill Tax obviously did play a role for sure, but I think it's overstated.
00:25:43.000I was reading something about it and they were like, I think it's understated how much of the French intervening was like, I think the French wiped out the British Navy at some point.
00:25:51.000And they showed up there at the end and it was really helpful.
00:25:53.000But, uh, to, just to finish this one thought, um, look, if you're going to colonize a country, you can't just send a governor and some army guys and hope that you're going to change the nature of the country.
00:26:12.000You have to send people to build cities and create culture and art and commerce and all these things.
00:26:18.000Which is why, actually, we in the United States gained our independence is because they had to send actual humans and families and people to settle the United States.
00:26:27.000It wasn't just a colony in the Caribbean or in Africa where we could just send a governor
00:26:32.000and some troops and just extract the resources that we wanted from those countries.
00:26:36.000We had to actually send human beings to come live here and have their lives here, which
00:26:40.000is why in a way it was so successful that it was such a civilization that we were like,
00:27:01.000So, you know, when I'm a kid and I'm growing up, I see that photo of Iwo Jima and they're raising the flag and, you know, never forgetting all of these things, these things meant to inspire and tell kids, that's what you want to be like.
00:27:40.000If you're going to colonize a desert mountain, then you need to import food and that's going to cost you trillions and trillions of dollars.
00:27:54.000For three centuries, if you want that to happen.
00:27:57.000The fundamental error here is that we in our progressive era politics and foreign policy and modernity and all these things that we think we can change everyone around the world if they could just listen to us and learn our ways they will improve and change and whatever and our arrogance Let us to believe that not only were we going to just go to like a country that was like a step below us and just kind of bring them up to where we were.
00:28:22.000No, we were going to go to the most bass-ackwards place in the entire world with a civilization more antithetical to ours than any other in existence and try to bring them up to 2021 wokeness.
00:29:09.000And so when you look at what John Bolton's been saying, that we will be celebrating victory in Tehran by this time next year instead of a couple years ago, it sounds to me like the purpose of Afghanistan is not to create a nation necessarily, but to create a stronghold where we can supply troops and have military infrastructure because they wanted to invade Iran.
00:29:30.000That was all part of the neocon dominoes falling theory that they put forth after after we decided to invade.
00:29:39.000OK, that's the part that people forget, I believe, is that we decided to invade Afghanistan and then Iraq before Wolfowitz and the neocons had fully formulated their spreading democracy concept.
00:29:52.000I believe that the spreading democracy concept came after the urge to invade Afghanistan and Iraq.
00:29:57.000But this is me going back 20 years and trying to remember the news reports at the time.
00:30:02.000I was in grad school, so we were talking about this quite a bit.
00:30:05.000And I just remember Wolfowitz and the neocons formulating the spreading of democracy and the dominoes falling theory after it was already determined by Bush's rhetoric.
00:30:15.000He would do this word smash where he would go, Terror!
00:30:18.000Iraq, Al Qaeda, 9-11, Afghanistan, Saddam Hussein, Iraq, weapons of mass destruction,
00:30:25.000Afghanistan, Iraq, Saddam Hussein, terror, terror, and he would just mash all those words up together
00:30:31.000without any logical coherence, but he would just say them together in a rhythm in such a way that
00:30:36.000everyone began to associate all those concepts together.
00:30:40.000Al-Qaeda, Afghanistan, Saddam Hussein, weapons of mass destruction, Iraq.
00:30:48.000That was the banging of the war drums at that time.
00:30:52.000And I believe that the academic infrastructure for all this, the Wolfowitz-led neocon theory, abdominal falling and such, My memory could be wrong, and I was younger then, for sure, was that that came after, afterwards, and became the justification for this prolonged experience that we had there.
00:31:09.000That, of course, the military-industrial complex gets behind, and they're like, yeah, we can sell more bombs.
00:31:13.000You know what I'm really, really impressed by?
00:31:15.000You gotta give it to the United States, the power and the prowess of their armed forces in being able to stage an invasion of a country less than a month after the terror attack that happened, which was the reason for that attack.
00:31:27.000Wait, we invaded Afghanistan in October of 2001?
00:32:18.000So I remember their arguments back then, because I'm a little bit older than you guys, and I remember them saying like, oh, all this is about George Bush avenging his daddy.
00:32:26.000And so maybe in his mind, and I don't know, I'm totally speculating.
00:32:29.000I know people who know this, so maybe I should just ask them.
00:32:32.000But maybe when he got into office, he was like, we got to fix this thing in Iraq.
00:32:36.000And then 9-11 happened, and it was like, oh, we'll do this, then we'll do that.
00:32:39.000I'm saying they wanted to invade already.
00:33:33.000Hey, how about before we invade a country, we have council hearings, you know, we, we make demands, we sanction, like, it's really interesting that the Taliban said, give us proof.
00:33:51.000They wanted the war and they were like, we're going for it.
00:33:54.000You know, what's funny, if you think about the timeline, actually, uh, from 1991 until September 11th, That's the period in time that I call the Pax Americana.
00:34:06.000That is when we were cashing the peace dividend of the end of the Cold War.
00:34:10.000There wasn't any obvious international hegemon that was challenging us anywhere.
00:34:18.000We had gotten so comfortable, actually, that we had turned our foreign policy attention to The Western Hemisphere, we were like engaging with Latin America.
00:34:26.000We're going to build a free trade area of the Americas, all this stuff.
00:34:29.000There wasn't any real war or military conflict or clearly defined enemy at all whatsoever from 91 until 2001.
00:34:38.000So it is a reasonable presumption to make that in that intervening 10 years, all the military industrial complex guys were like, Oh, we got to get something here.
00:35:18.000So by the time he makes that second inaugural and the goal of America is to end tyranny around the world, we'd already been way, way involved.
00:35:33.000But I mean, they had this guy, the Shah, and it was like this this 2000 year old monarchy.
00:35:37.000And they basically I think the CIA caused this revolution, this to this theocratic was the Ayatollah Khomeini, this this like now they're this theocratic Muslim, well, theocracy country.
00:36:08.000Well, I mean, that was 1979, the Iranian Revolution.
00:36:11.000But after the Soviet Union falls, I don't know about cleaning up the mess, but it's like expand the footprint, grow the empire, more bombs, more wars, more money, expand.
00:36:21.000Remember, this is all tied at the same time to neo neoliberal economics, which is like blow out all the markets, free trade.
00:36:32.000Let's create the free trade area of the Americas, which was all just about globalized, globalized, globalized.
00:36:38.000So it all adds up and stacks up into the globalization theory.
00:36:43.000This whole thing that we're basically, me and my friends, and maybe you guys are on board now, I don't know, are anti-globalization.
00:36:51.000And all these things that we're talking about are globalization, about the globalization of American empire, globalization of American trade, American values, American freedoms, American all the things.
00:36:59.000What's the issue you have with globalization?
00:37:01.000Like, what are some bad things to say about it?
00:37:03.000Well, I mean, look, the great example is what we're just talking about here with Afghanistan is that we believe that we have a set of values and customs and morals and a virtuous framework that we can go and just apply universally to civilizations across the world.
00:37:40.000The second element of globalization that's no good for everybody is the race to the bottom on wages and environmental standards, which is what the... I'm throwing environmental standards in as sort of a joke, but that was the argument against the 1999 WTO ascension of China into the World Trade Organization, of which Black Bloc, the precursor to American Antifa, was protesting.
00:38:59.000And that's what a lot of these dictators and conquerors all believed.
00:39:04.000Every single one of these authoritarian dictatorships who are expanding and taking over thought, this set of values we have is universal and can be applied.
00:39:13.000The thing about the communists that's different from us to a certain degree is that they were like, we'll just kill anybody who opposes us.
00:39:20.000The US does that to a certain degree, but they genuinely try to buy people.
00:39:34.000Well, what's interesting, too, about communism is that it's like subnation state.
00:39:38.000It's like below the level of nation state.
00:39:40.000It's a way to unite various factions and people in different nations against the nation state that they're living in, which was what the end of the Westphalian era and the Westphalian Treaty was supposed to be about, which is supposed to be about like Nations here not meddling with their ethnic group and they're in that nation and like setting up these boundaries so that the conflicts were actually between nations but then communism came along and made it so that people across different nations and boundaries could unite around a common cause and become a common faction because a common problem.
00:40:10.000Now, that's not, you know, totally notwithstanding all the issues around communism, but that is one of the interesting conflicts it presents with the nation-state system as we have it.
00:40:19.000Now, I think one of the things that we have to appreciate as Americans is that our American way of life, our values, our virtues, our constitutional republic, our representational government, all these things, they're not universally applicable.
00:42:09.000It's like lamb, and then it's like they put this sauce on it, and then they steam it, and then they wrap it so it gets soggy, and it's like a buck, and you're all drunk in the middle of the night, and you walk in, and they just take it out of the heater and give it to you, and everyone's just eating it.
00:43:24.000My problem with globalization is, we had a guest on that actually made this point, I think, or you did about someone else that said it, is that it's inevitable.
00:44:45.000That's, that's been, that's been everywhere.
00:44:47.000McDonald's has been in Beijing since, you know, who knows how long ago, but the most important salient factor in what we're talking about here is the values.
00:44:55.000The political values, the personal values, the morals, the virtues, the family structure, all these things that we hold dear, the virtues that the country was built upon.
00:45:04.000I just spent some time studying with the Claremont boys out there in Las Vegas at the fellowship.
00:45:08.000One of the things that we really was struck by when I'm reading original texts.
00:45:12.000Original text from the founders, John Jay, Alexander Hamilton, all these guys, not only just the around the Federalist and the Constitution, but around state constitutions and the discussions around state constitutions, right?
00:45:38.000Two, that the American people were a unique set of people bound by language, culture, history, stories, experiences, blood, race, religion, and so forth.
00:45:47.000And so therefore that the American government was built as a coat to suit these unique people.
00:46:21.000This was the entirety of the people founding our country understood that our people were unique, our history was unique, our language and religion and culture were unique, and the government that we built was unique for those people.
00:46:32.000So this idea that we can take what we have here for us, a special kind of people, and like just universally apply it across the world is asinine.
00:46:57.000I think there needs to be strong international ties, but there needs to be sovereign respect.
00:47:01.000So what I mean to say is, is there something we can do to make sure that a country's borders, laws, and customs are respected, and we prevent war.
00:47:14.000We prevent major serious international conflict and destruction and Havana syndrome or nuclear weapons.
00:47:21.000You know, what's funny is that the wars that we have been involved in are because we want to exert our way of life on other people.
00:47:45.000And, you know, the United States is a bunch of hyper individualistic Um, you know, right-wing nutjobs in the middle of the woods with a bunch of guns.
00:47:54.000And I mean that in the best way possible.
00:47:55.000I mean, like, we got a whole bunch of people who are sitting on a mound of beans with guns and be like, I'm not gonna bother you, you don't bother me, and I'm like, right on, brother!
00:48:06.000There are a lot of countries where they're like, you know, my god is the one true god, therefore, and they're gonna fight and they're gonna attack.
00:48:13.000And then you have communists who have found subversion to be the powerful method.
00:48:17.000And so now you might have that hyper-individualistic dude who's, you know, living in the mountains, who's minding his own business respectfully, peacefully, and he's well-prepared, but all around him the cities are falling to subversive ideologies to submit We have a relatively decentralized system here compared to many other places.
00:48:41.000And that's what communists and Marxists and others have been doing.
00:48:44.000So ultimately what I see is those who are willing to oppress, lie, cheat, and steal have a major advantage and they've been winning in that front.
00:48:52.000And that's because the difference between what we have here and what they have there, and at least at the time of the founding and for most of American existence, was that the American citizenry was devout Christian.
00:49:06.000And so this is the fundamental issue is that our declaration of independence is based on natural law and natural rights, which come from the creator.
00:49:17.000And in a Christian belief, the Creator is a monotheistic God.
00:49:23.000And if you've got other gods, you're wrong.
00:49:26.000So we have one God, natural law, natural rights, American Constitutional Republic.
00:49:31.000That's the direct lineage in the Declaration of Independence, and that's what everybody at the time thought when they signed the thing.
00:49:37.000And so if you believe at the same time that there's only one God, and that everybody else's God is wrong, well then there's almost a compulsion to spread that ideology to other people.
00:49:47.000But I think what we need to do is just respect the fact that other people have different ideas.
00:49:51.000And I interviewed Alexander Dugin, the Russian philosopher who pushes his ethnic multipolarity ideas, because he believes that people are different based on their geography and their location and their history and who they are inside, etc.
00:50:05.000And that they evolve into needing different political regimes.
00:50:09.000People have evolved to need different political regimes.
00:50:12.000The Chinese, for example, have evolved in their own civilization, in their own context, with their own everything.
00:50:19.000So they've evolved their own political regime, just like we have here in the West.
00:50:24.000But population growth will lead to borders pressing on borders.
00:50:28.000There's no free land anymore for the most part.
00:50:30.000There's like some rock, like volcanic rock I was looking at down by Antarctica that's like unclaimed.
00:50:38.000Sure, sure, but the point is that we've reached- it used to be like, okay, it's no big deal because there were a lot of places that were just open and- Send them to the colonies!
00:51:26.000They become sickly, they become malnourished, and they fight, become aggressive because there's just enough resources to sustain their current level of population.
00:51:34.000So then what do you think's gonna happen to people when in a country like China with 1.4 billion, they're like, we gotta get food somehow, we're importing it from Australia.
00:51:42.000What happens when these other countries start saying, we're not gonna give it to you?
00:51:45.000Well, we're not gonna sit here and die.
00:51:47.000And now that there's no unclaimed land, someone's gonna have to give up what they did claim.
00:51:51.000Well, you bring up an interesting point, which is that every other country around the world shares the perspective that I am putting forth right now, which is that there is no universal morality, no universal virtue, no universal political regime, no universal constitution that should be applied, no universal rights, none of it.
00:52:08.000No one else believes that except for us.
00:52:10.000Well, there is a universal thing is economics.
00:52:25.000Can we just finish this one thought before we get on to that, which is to say that the Chinese people aren't looking at their Chinese government being like, Everybody here needs to be Chinese all around the world.
00:52:35.000We're going to export Chinese ideology everywhere.
00:53:07.000We're gonna go get it, which is a totally different perspective than what we have, which is like we have to end tyranny all around the world.
00:53:12.000Yeah, but that idea of humanitarian is propaganda.
00:53:15.000It was a way to sell war to people because we want to extract resources.
00:53:24.000They conquered in the name of defense.
00:53:26.000I will, I will say at least in America, it goes back to Woodrow Wilson and the initiation of the progressive policy and modernity and scientific method and the improvement of everything can be reduced.
00:54:43.000sees this uprising and they're like, and depending on who you ask, by the way, because the leftists will say it was a CIA conspiracy from the get-go, but they see this opportunity with this uprising and they're like, we should arm some of these people.
00:54:54.000Because we don't like Bashar al-Assad!
00:54:56.000So they intervene to provide resources to the competing faction, hoping that once it topples, we'll be able to build that pipeline.
00:55:07.000I think what you're pointing out are competing factions within the United States foreign policy apparatus.
00:55:11.000You're pointing out factions where people have like monetary, monetary, excuse me, monetary interests at heart.
00:55:17.000But at the same time, there is this progressive ideology in our foreign policy, in our domestic policy, that's reflected in the gender policy and the Marxist policy and the feminist policy and the critical race theory policy, which is all about like perfecting things and making Perfect through science and the scientific method and like eradicating evil and spreading freedom and all the great things that we have all around the country.
00:55:38.000Did you see the report from Project Veritas?
00:55:41.000The teacher in California who's got Mao on his wall.
00:55:45.000I have 180 days to turn these kids into revolutionaries.
00:55:49.000Yeah, I think this is one of Veritas' most important stories, to be honest, and it's like some random dopey dude, but this is important because, you know, a lot of us are familiar with the goings-on of Google because everyone's got their complaints.
00:56:00.000The left says, oh, it's a monopoly that won't ban hate speech, and everyone's kind of focused on them and complaining, and the censorship stuff's overt.
00:56:07.000But we keep hearing these stories about children being indoctrinated, and they say, oh, that's not happening, it's not happening.
00:56:11.000Veritas then finds just one guy, one little old teacher, who comes out and says, here's my Antifa flag, here's my Mao poster, and I tell kids they're bad people if they disagree with me, and then they move further left every single year, and you're like, these people are real, and what you don't realize is the one guy they caught is like a cockroach.
00:56:30.000You see one on the wall, you think, that means there's a thousand more behind it.
00:56:33.000So for Veritas to expose the one guy is just the beginning.
00:56:36.000There needs to be more exposure to this.
00:56:38.000But man, I tweeted this out somewhat jokingly.
00:57:01.000She's a very successful active junior, straight A's, varsity athlete, can go any college she wants to in the country.
00:57:08.000And she wants to go to some pretty powerful universities.
00:57:10.000She wants to be a doctor, which is like one of the things that you can't do without doing the thing.
00:57:16.000Unfortunately, I think you should be able to test into that.
00:57:18.000You should be, but you can't right now.
00:57:20.000Like if you want to be a stock trader, a tech guy, a programmer, a coder, a businessman, a philosopher, historian, whatever, you don't have to go to college to do that.
00:57:28.000But to, but to be a doctor, you got to do that.
00:57:30.000So, so I have, and I would do this ordinarily, but I am just prophylactically like just blasting her with as much information as I can.
00:57:39.000So that by the time she does get there, that she will at least have a baseline for, to deal with this indoctrination.
00:58:16.000It's not me being hateful or anything.
00:58:18.000There is very clear evidence where people say, well, you know what?
00:58:22.000It doesn't matter that the kids lost learning time and can read more poorly today compared to last year because we taught them what a riot was.
00:58:30.000We taught them what an insurrection was.
00:58:32.000We taught them what, you know, white systems of oppression are.
00:58:35.000So all of these people, again, this goes back to exactly what the problem is in Afghanistan, aside from the competing military or monetary interests, is that the attention of our education apparatus is focused on the wrong thing.
00:58:47.000The attention of our education apparatus is focused on making these kids into little revolutionaries that pledge allegiance to the queer flag, that don't care about reading and math, but they only care about learning about rioting and insurrections.
01:00:34.000So I tweeted like, you know, we ended up learning from the local emergency response in West Virginia where this happened, that the DOD took over and the locals were not allowed to give statements to the press.
01:00:46.000Now, the truth is, the Department of Defense works with the HHS, and they have jurisdiction over vaccine shipments, so when it happened, they're like, hey, we're gonna be handling this.
01:00:55.000So it's not like there was a grand conspiracy or anything, and I never said that.
01:01:00.000Truck crashes, carrying Moderna vaccine, airspace gets shut down, hazmat comes out, and now the DOD is taking over.
01:01:06.000And I guess a lot of people immediately assume conspiracies, and what ends up happening is an article gets written claiming that I'm a conspiracy theorist, that I didn't accurately inform any of my followers about what really happened, even though I posted a link to the story.
01:01:20.000Now, it's something I want to get off my chest and just mention because it was like an example of something affecting me, but I also think it's a good example of institutional rot.
01:01:28.000That there is someone who knows my story was 100% true, 100% factual, and I never implied there was a grand conspiracy.
01:01:34.000I genuinely was like, whoa, a vaccine truck flipped over.
01:01:51.000And they had to twist it and frame it in such a ridiculous and absurd way.
01:01:55.000That people who will read that will have their minds warped.
01:01:59.000That is just one example I experienced recently, but I'm sure everybody knows the examples of how the media lies, cheats, and manipulates, like Shinzo Abe and Trump, when he throws the fish food in, they fake it, or the very fine people hoax.
01:02:09.000And so what's happening now, and the reason why I think you see these schools focusing on the wrong thing, is it's the whole system of our institutions has been twisted and corrupted by an every, you know, by the most absurd and extreme hyper-individualism.
01:02:33.000He went, how can I twist this in the worst way possible to get some clicks?
01:02:37.000Because I don't care about what happens to this country.
01:02:39.000I don't care what happens to my community.
01:02:41.000I don't care what happens to the people.
01:02:42.000These schools bring these people in and these principals and these superintendents, the ones who haven't been truly indoctrinated, are like, I'm not going to stick my neck out when this teacher does this stuff because why should I put myself on the line for the sake of the future of this country, our children?
01:02:57.000And what ends up happening then is over a decade of this happening, eventually the people running the institutions are in the cult and their minds are warped and twisted and then they seek out more of it.
01:03:07.000The way I view this problem, the easiest way to understand it is to look up the YouTube video of Hitler with a woman's body doing Tai Chi with the Incredible Hulk where nursery rhymes are being sang.
01:03:18.000Because this video exemplifies the broken, fractured, algorithmic dystopia that we're living in.
01:03:42.000For the rest of us, spending 10 years going through the broken media ecosystem, the lies, the fake news, and the algorithmic manipulation, we can't tell Adults who live in it are the same as the babies being born into it.
01:03:56.000We can see the one thing, because it's so crazy, we can't see the crazy in front of us.
01:04:00.000Now, obviously, I think people watching the show, people like us, are initiated.
01:04:05.000And what I mean by that is, we're discerning.
01:04:07.000We see something and say, I want to challenge that.
01:04:09.000And I want to see how that stands up to scrutiny.
01:04:12.000Then you look at all these people who all of a sudden are, I tell you this man, you know,
01:04:17.000breaks my heart is the hacker community going woke. Full on authoritarian dogma. And I'm like,
01:04:22.000hackers were anti establishment, anti authoritarian, totally like agnostic. And now the whole it's just
01:04:29.000becoming more and more woke. And I'm seeing people say, like, here's what you have to say,
01:04:32.000here's what you can't say. And I'm like, we're changing the words of code. And it's just they
01:04:36.000don't understand they're living in this fractured, rotted and broken collapsing system. They can't
01:04:56.000And I just started to get into it a second ago about education.
01:04:59.000When the founders created this country, they realized that liberty did not mean the freedom to do whatever you wanted.
01:05:06.000It meant the freedom to do what you should do, what you ought to do to do the right thing.
01:05:12.000And so they thought, okay, we're going to give people freedom.
01:05:16.000So at the same time, we also need to teach them what they ought to do.
01:05:19.000John Adams very clearly said that this constitutional republic that we have is only suited for highly virtuous moral and religious people.
01:05:27.000They also said at the same time across every colony and every state constitution and in the federal papers and in the letters of all the founders they said we need to establish public schools in order to teach patriotism, virtue, morality, in order to create a people suitable for the government that we have created.
01:05:46.000Fast forward to where we are today the education system say when you try to think that it should teach Patriotism or love of country you would get laughed out of the freaking room right or the idea that the people can just come in and teach communism and Marxism and anti-american hate and CRT and 1619 stuff in our public schools or the idea that we're gonna be a nation made up of a majority of atheists and I am not a Christian. I haven't been baptized. I'm very
01:06:14.000sympathetic and I'm very interested and I'm reading the Bible and I understand its value. But at the
01:06:18.000time of the founding, they didn't even conceive of the possibility of a widespread atheism. So the
01:06:24.000country has been created in a way that required this, that, and the other guardrail,
01:06:31.000institution, education, morality, religion, and they have all been wiped out.
01:06:36.000And so what we're left with now is a constitution that promotes not just liberty to do what you ought, but freedom for licentiousness.
01:06:45.000The easiest way I think for people to understand this is just to reference the replicators in Stargate SG-1.
01:06:51.000When SG-1 created the Disruptor device, the replicators of course, the humanoid replicators, were made up of nanobots.
01:06:58.000And the Disruptor device severed the communication between each nanobot within the greater replicator, causing it to disintegrate into a pile of metal shards.
01:07:32.000And then a shared story started to emerge.
01:07:34.000And all of the different states eventually fought each other, because they were about to break apart.
01:07:40.000Then there was the famous line from National Treasure, truly a great philosophical piece with Nicolas Cage where he said, before the Civil War, people would say, the United States are.
01:07:52.000And after the Civil War, they would say, the United States is.
01:07:55.000I don't know if that's true or not, but it's a good, it's a good way to understand that after this point, or at some point, people started to view each and every state as together and fighting for the common good and the same goals.
01:08:06.000And someone from New York would be like, ah, those, you know, those country folk, but we're rallied together around a lot of common ideas.
01:08:13.000Now we are very much like those nanobots being stripped apart.
01:08:17.000The individuals no longer are forming a greater community.
01:08:27.000And up until the 1960s and seventies, it was very easy to maintain national cohesion because you had just a handful of people giving you the stories that you were supposed to listen to and believe.
01:08:37.000You had Walter Cronkite sitting up there basically at a pulpit preaching to the entire country, telling people what to think, what to believe, what the feel, what stories to venerate, what heroes to have, what myths to entertain.
01:08:50.000And then now with technology, and we're, we're as guilty of participant of anybody is that instead of one guy telling everybody what to think and creating social cohesion that way, we've got a million people talking to a million people with a million different stories.
01:09:06.000And now we have no social cohesion because of it.
01:09:56.000And I was on the ground with Vice and we were reporting on a protest when I think it was Channel 4 in the UK put out a story where this woman was narrating what was going on and she was incorrect.
01:10:07.000And so I tweeted, hey, you guys are incorrect.
01:10:09.000We're here on the ground reporting for Vice.
01:10:36.000But we also have a lot of people who are just like, it's a job, I don't know,
01:10:39.000they wanted me to read the script, I don't care what it says.
01:10:42.000It just keeps making me think that better, of this term, better men.
01:10:44.000A lot of times when you come around, Jack, because the Founding Fathers talked about how better men would run the country, basically.
01:10:50.000And I feel like we're born plebes, and if our parents are better men, we have the opportunity to be fast-tracked to become a better man.
01:10:56.000But otherwise, we just grow up as plebes.
01:10:59.000The internet, obviously, you can study and research, but is it real that there's a tiny, tiny group of cogent, critical-thinking, better men, and that everyone else is just dumb animals?
01:13:15.000It was that you would vote for local representatives who would then appoint a senator to go and represent your state to the federal government.
01:13:24.000Because it wasn't that they were the House of Lords, like in the UK, you're just a lord and you know, you're, you're, you know, then they have religious people who are appointed as well.
01:13:31.000It was that I, you know, I'm sitting here in my little town and Jack Murphy says, vote for me for state representative.
01:13:39.000And I'll make sure we get a good senator to go to the federal government.
01:14:01.000And now you get the insane phenomenon of people running for Congress going, if you vote for me for Congress, I'm going to clean up this town.
01:14:30.000Well, I would be much happier actually if the congressional representatives from state districts went to Congress and worried about federal issues.
01:14:40.000The problem is that they go to Congress and they bring federal money back to their local district.
01:14:46.000It's supposed to be that you operate on the local level and it slowly moves up.
01:14:54.000When you vote for someone for Congress, someone running for Congress should be like, if you vote for me, I'll vote to end wars.
01:14:59.000I'll vote for lower taxes or things like that, or stronger borders for this country.
01:15:04.000Instead, they're like, I'll make sure that the homeless problem in our state or in our town- I'll bring that Northrop Grumman factory here to our state, and I'll get that federal program and that federal thing.
01:15:16.000But let's go back- And their bills never get out of committee, and then Nancy Pelosi comes in and says, you're just impeaching Trump, and they go, okay, Pelosi.
01:15:22.000But let's go back to the first question, which is, where are you most likely to find a virtuous man or woman?
01:15:29.000And I can hear Curtis Yarvin in my, in my ear telling me that we just need a monarchy or a Caesar.
01:15:40.000This is a, this is, if you want to Google that, go for it.
01:15:42.000But men above time are people that are separated and distant from the current daily goings ons and who can live a life of, of, of, uh, contemplation and philosophy and politics.
01:15:54.000And, you know, there is some value to that.
01:15:58.000And when you're distracted with the day-to-day material urges of the world, it's hard to be able to philosophize in such a way that's best for everyone without your own personal stuff getting in the way.
01:16:09.000Honestly, I don't think any man can be virtuous by nature.
01:16:13.000I think we're all corrupt and prone to corruption.
01:16:53.000So there's a lot of people who grow up in the countryside who, when they're little kids, their dad hands them a gun and says, you know, point it down, keep your finger off the trigger, and we're going to go hunt some turkeys.
01:17:06.000I remember watching this old science video where it shows talking about evolution and it was talking about like plankton and plant cellular life and then it was like and then one cell attacked another and it absorbed it and I was like and that was the beginning of predatation and stuff like that and I'm just like Yo, I mean, it's kind of crazy that there are plants, right, chilling, minding their own business, just doing their thing.
01:17:27.000They're like, I'm gonna grow right here, because this is where I am.
01:17:30.000And then they grow, and they're like, I get my energy from the carbon from the air, and the light from the sun, and I'm just minding my own business, building my own chemical structure, and then along comes some chicken.
01:17:42.000And the chicken walks up and just goes round, rips it off.
01:18:22.000Right, it's a really great idea to say that at the smallest levels, leftism is perfect, and then as you scale up, it just makes no sense as it gets bigger and bigger.
01:18:32.000It's idealistic, it's utopian, and it'd be fantastic, but once you have different, you know, cities that have different interests and different needs, there's gonna be conflict because people don't want to die.
01:19:07.000Where our country says, we have low food stores, we have low energy, we have low of this material that we need for our people, we're getting desperate.
01:19:48.000And that might be a very, very rudimentary ideology, but I don't think comes close to what ideology actually is meant to represent.
01:19:55.000Humans are literally going to be standing there and someone's going to be like, I think Marx was right.
01:20:00.000And then someone else is going to be like, you're nuts.
01:20:02.000And then he's going to pull out, you know, his, his, you know, stone.
01:20:05.000But even before we get to competing ideologies within our own ideological system, there is inherent competition based on the varying faculties of men.
01:20:14.000And by that, I mean, each individual man has different capabilities, different interests, different ways that they can get things accomplished in the world.
01:20:22.000And so therefore they're going to have rooted interests in their faculties.
01:20:26.000And because we have different IQs and different capabilities and people are taller and shorter and stronger, more inclined to economics or real estate or agriculture or whatever.
01:20:36.000As those people gain power, then their interests become factions and those factions become competitive within the United States.
01:20:43.000And that's one of the reasons why Madison wanted us to have such a wide ranging expanse of a republic so that there wouldn't be a dominant faction within the United States.
01:20:53.000But then Woodrow Wilson basically legalized the faction of Rockefeller and J.P.
01:20:59.000Morgan, Federal Reserve, Military Industrial Complex.
01:21:19.000But from what I've learned, and I've never gone too deep.
01:21:21.000And that's not what you, you, I, I, you, Tim, we're friends, so I can say this, but you say that so smugly to irritate me because you're making a point.
01:21:46.000The reason I bring this up is that, you know, I've been mentioning a lot that principle isn't necessarily the issue, it's often the subject or the specific ideology, and that's why you might see a lot of people who are immediately called hypocrites.
01:21:59.000If you say, the indoctrination in schools is bad, Correct.
01:22:36.000His like, when the bell rings, you get up, you have to go to class, or you'll be penalized, like show up, take the test, on top of the whole moral thing.
01:22:46.000This is a good distinction, because I make this argument on Twitter often, and people are like, no, it was industrial people, and they wanted to train you to work in factories, and whatever, whatever.
01:22:55.000Fine, that may have happened later, but public schools are designed to build patriots that function well in our patriotic system.
01:23:55.000He specifically was talking about just law in general and love of country.
01:23:58.000He was a lawyer and he did have to do that.
01:24:00.000He had to become an autocrat to keep the union together.
01:24:03.000Yeah, but the point is is that we here right now are having this conversation because people that came before us sacrificed their lives, their sons, their treasure, their wives, their family, their homes, all of it.
01:24:16.000And to disrespect the law that they created, the country that they created after that is to disrespect them.
01:24:22.000And that is what his foundation of political religion was, which was the idea that he had that he wanted to animate the country with political religion, a love of country, a love of the Constitution, a respect for the people that died for it.
01:25:16.000And, uh, it was, it was, it was an idea, an idea he tweeted out.
01:25:20.000And then I just elaborate, elaborated upon that by, by, by mere virtue of your existence proves that victory is not only possible, but that it's already happened before.
01:25:39.000There's been so much evil in this world.
01:25:41.000The rise of communism, the dictators, the murderers, the Nazis, the fascists, and here we sit today, doing a show about American values, freedom, and liberty, which proves not only have we won in the past, but here we are able to continue this, which means victory is not only possible, but it already happens.
01:25:58.000Dude, we constantly do things that are challenging and hard.
01:26:01.000Like, I tweeted out, I think yesterday, if you only ever did what was easy for you, you would've just laid there.
01:26:06.000You never would have gotten, you would have laid there until you died.
01:26:08.000Like, we're always struggling to learn how to do something new and to change our environment.
01:26:14.000That's ultimately what we're tools for.
01:26:40.000But definitely possible, that's the point.
01:26:43.000I'm not saying impossible, I'm saying hard.
01:26:44.000These things that seem insurmountable, I think it's because we're looking at big picture a lot of times, like CRT, and everyone's like, I don't know, where do you even begin?
01:26:50.000But when you break it down to like the local level, and then you see like teachers union, or a group of teachers are revolting, or this guy's getting removed, this teacher's getting removed for Good thing to see that that guy wearing the sickle who's got the Antifa and the Black Lives Matter and all that communist stuff who says he's got 180 days to turn the kids into revolutionaries, he's getting fired.
01:27:11.000The woman that said pledge allegiance to the queers, she's getting fired.
01:27:37.000Now the rebellious thing to do is to stand up and say, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation divided.
01:27:53.000The under God and on the Constitution your rights are from God.
01:27:56.000I'm like, that's just... Why are you weirded out by it?
01:27:58.000It's literally in the Declaration of Independence upon which this government was founded.
01:28:03.000Because I think, well, we talked about this before, I wish you were here when we had the first time, that our rights are just, we just earned them through warfare.
01:28:11.000That's what they, some magic thing they wrote in there to be like, and if anyone ever messes with you, just say you can never, and it's like, no, this didn't exist before you created it.
01:28:20.000What do you mean it didn't exist before?
01:29:16.000But would they look at you and be like, you have the right to defend yourself?
01:29:19.000No, I don't think that word would even enter that lexicon into a mind of barbarians.
01:29:23.000So Ian, if you're standing in the middle of the woods and some guy runs up screaming with a pointy stick, would you just go, oh well, guess I'll die?
01:29:30.000I'm not saying because these things might... I'm not saying that they're not good things.
01:29:39.000If you're standing in the middle of the woods and a guy's running at you screaming with a stick, would you go, I have no right to defend myself?
01:29:43.000No, I would jujitsu his ass and put my knee on the back of his neck.
01:30:41.000Rights are fundamental normative rules about what is allowed of people or owed to people according to some legal system, social convention, or ethical theory.
01:30:48.000Rights are of essential importance in such disciplines as law and ethics, especially theories of justice and deontology.
01:30:57.000Every ethical form has a different set of rights.
01:31:00.000So we're back to our original discussion, which is that monotheistic gods gave us natural law and natural rights, which gave us the United States of America.
01:31:08.000That's why it's not universally applicable, because there's other countries around the world and other places and other people that don't have the same perception of God and don't have the same perception of life.
01:32:52.000There's certain rules that transcend all civilizations.
01:32:55.000Yeah, but the golden rule only works in certain types of civilizations.
01:32:59.000It doesn't work if everyone's cheating.
01:33:01.000So there are bad people, there are good people, there are an infringement of rights, and rights exist regardless of whether someone tries to suppress them.
01:33:09.000I think that rights only exist because we tell ourselves they exist.
01:33:13.000So, Ian, I think you actually have a point, but I wanted to read to you a little bit about natural law.
01:33:18.000Because natural law is an idea in, sorry, it's a theory in ethics and philosophy that says that human beings possess intrinsic values that govern our reasoning and behavior.
01:33:27.000And this is something that is understood to exist in almost every single human civilization.
01:34:01.000I think Jack put it well about what you need to be able to do in order to survive and function, which is a natural right.
01:34:07.000They've essentially codified that into a structure.
01:34:09.000That was kind of the Ten Commandments, is what he was doing.
01:34:11.000Like, if you follow these, you'll probably survive for a long time, and so will our species.
01:34:15.000And so then the Americans were like, okay, let's make a government out of that and tell everyone these are, like, uncorruptible parts of you.
01:34:22.000And if we believe that, then they become it.
01:34:26.000But only because the government by gun forces is commanding that is that able to exist.
01:34:30.000If you're in the middle of the woods and you're buck naked, you can speak freely.
01:36:35.000But a human being, in any circumstance when threatened, has the right to defend itself, as does every other creature on the planet when threatened.
01:36:42.000Just because a bear can hold down the fox and the fox is struggling, doesn't mean the fox doesn't have the right to defend itself.
01:37:08.000There are fundamental base truths That we understand very simply.
01:37:13.000And what I mean is, obviously we can get into the nuance and complexities of how glass shatters.
01:37:18.000But typically, when you throw a rock at a window, it breaks.
01:37:20.000There's nuance there, I understand that.
01:37:21.000Typically, a bear, when hungry, will eat something to feed itself.
01:37:25.000There are basic things we understand to be true.
01:37:28.000There are rules as to how they define what life is, and there are basic functions as to how that life propagates.
01:37:35.000In fact, there are some plants that defend themselves.
01:37:38.000Because if you have no right to self-defense, meaning a fundamental Entitlement to your ability to stay alive, then you would cease to exist because your lineage, your DNA would just collapse.
01:37:51.000Meaning everything that exists today exists because it had a right to survival.
01:37:56.000No, that's not what we didn't have rights before.
01:38:09.000The ones that ate the food survived and the ones that didn't dead.
01:38:13.000So the point is arising from the fact that everything that survived fought for its survival, we recognize a fundamental naturally occurring entitlement existing within life forms to try to stay alive.
01:38:48.000We gotta agree on the definition first.
01:38:49.000Because you're making it up, and I just read it to you.
01:38:51.000Well, you gave me like a long, three-part definition, firstly.
01:38:54.000Because you don't... Ian, if you're not smart enough to know words, and I can't even read you the definition, how do we have a conversation?
01:39:00.000Look, everybody... Firstly, everybody can make mistakes.
01:39:03.000You made a mistake earlier when you said a word that wasn't the right word.
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01:40:29.000The Loopworm Gamer says, on one of your earlier segments, you said women shouldn't be forced by anyone to carry another human being because of their freedom, not morality.
01:40:37.000But doesn't any parent have the obligation to stop their child from dying in their care?
01:40:42.000Yes, the issue of pro-life versus pro-choice is very, very difficult, and there is no middle ground.
01:40:58.000The point I was making is, I'm worried about setting precedent for the government to decide when they're allowed to intervene in someone's medical decisions and when that person is required to provide their own body to someone else.
01:41:09.000It's very, very difficult to parse this because there's a baby that's alive that I believe life begins at conception.
01:41:15.000But I will just say something very simple.
01:41:17.000It's okay, because if you're pro-life, we can actually have a discussion on how we compromise on this, and I being pro-choice.
01:41:24.000As CBS News described it, the left is pro-abortion.
01:41:28.000CBS News said the pro-abortion groups, they're not talking about choice.
01:41:32.000They're talking about people who quite literally say you have no right to choose your medication when it comes to vaccine mandates, but the government should absolutely have an open door on all abortions up until the point of birth in some places.
01:41:45.000In Virginia, for instance, that's where they were pushing that.
01:41:47.000So if we're gonna sit here and discuss like, okay, we think abortion is wrong, but there's a fundamental question of government intervention.
01:41:52.000Okay, that I think we can really disagree on.
01:41:55.000But then you have this other group that's so far left, I need binoculars to see them, saying outright, you have no right to medical autonomy.
01:42:03.000If the government mandates you get medicated, you go and do it and shut up.
01:42:06.000And by all means, terminate your pregnancy.
01:43:32.000And I grew up with Democrat families saying, you know, abortion's really a truly despicable and awful thing.
01:43:37.000The problem is, there are certain circumstances that are humiliating, embarrassing, life-altering, and a doctor and the mother might have to make that very difficult choice.
01:43:46.000But of course, my dad would say, abortion just because for no reason, just, no, that's absolutely wrong, it shouldn't be done that way.
01:43:52.000And so that's where Chicago Democrat was, you know?
01:43:56.000Now I find myself much more closer to what's considered pro-life only because, you can call it close, relatively, to the pro-abortion crowd who come out on their TV shows yelling, everybody get abortions!
01:44:34.000And so I'm like—so here's what I say.
01:44:38.000As I just described how I grew up reviewing it, I think there's a confusion as to what it means to be pro-life versus pro-choice because there's no real pro-choice movement anymore.
01:44:46.000You have pro-abortion people and you have pro-life people, and the pro-choice people, safe, legal, and rare.
01:44:51.000My issue is, there are circumstances in which the baby could die, is dead, is seriously, you know, is at serious risk, that could put the mother at risk.
01:45:00.000There are many, many medical complications, and they may be rare.
01:45:03.000In which case, I'm like, man, I don't want the government, like, to file paperwork on this stuff and give my private medical history.
01:45:09.000And man, having the government involved in that.
01:45:11.000The problem, though, is that I recognize 99 point whatever of abortions are listed as no reason at all.
01:45:16.000Meaning they're typically just contraception, which is abhorrent.
01:46:03.000Second, get pregnancy tests and test yourself regularly.
01:46:06.000Third, track your period, whatever, whatever.
01:46:10.000And in her clear explanation of all the things that you should do, it became obvious to me that her ilk and her people and the people she was talking to were clearly using abortion as contraception.
01:46:26.000Because she hadn't been saying all along, get on a contraception, get an IUD, use the birth control pill and use a condom and pregnancy test yourself all the time as a way.
01:46:37.000And not only like, hey, let's maybe not have sex with everybody.
01:46:41.000But the idea was she had to replace the contraceptive tool of abortion, you know, with contraception.
01:46:59.000I mean, look, I don't want to promote promiscuity amongst our young people, but there is some valid validity to the argument that every kid should be given an IUD and an HPV vax at age 14.
01:48:20.000I mentioned earlier, like maybe Republicans just want to sit back and let Biden keep slipping on banana peels because it's going to make the 2020 2022 midterms.
01:48:27.000It's true, but it does make them look feckless.
01:49:37.000And you know, what's interesting though, is I will listen to him in the eighties and the nineties, and I'll be like, he's a bad guy, but he kind of witty.
01:52:13.000Matrix says, Tim, Titan, Hunter, or Warlock?
01:52:15.000I'm partial to my Hunter, but the Titans in Destiny have the best butts.
01:52:19.000The first character I made was a Warlock, because I thought the Warlocks were Hunters, and then I leveled up a Warlock, and I was like, I guess I'm playing the Warlock.
01:52:25.000And then I was like, I gotta make a Hunter, because Hunters are better, because Hunters can be invisible.
01:55:34.000OMG Puppy says the Shah of Iran was a constitutional monarch and he legally disbanded the parliament when they elected a communist prime minister.
01:55:42.000There is a counter narrative to CIA plot and both are probably true.
01:58:18.000Adam Horridge says conservatives understand individualism and group demonstrations.
01:58:21.000They don't recognize both need to be used to change institutions, and we need to start with universities.
01:58:27.000Somebody tweeted at me that I won't criticize conservatives or whatever, and I'm like, I mean, I guess it depends on what you mean, because Trump supporters aren't the same as, like, the neocons, which I rag on all the time.
01:58:37.000I'm like, Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham are awful, but, you know, everybody on the right makes fun of them.
01:58:40.000But it's also like, dude, When a pro-lifer conservative comes to me and says, I'm pro-life and here's why, I go, oh, I understand those arguments.
02:00:04.000I love when you could throw the solar grenade and then make him walk off the edge, because the game was busted and they fixed it and took away all the fun.
02:00:09.000But, uh, you know, I- I played the latest one a little bit, and I've done a few missions so far.
02:01:50.000The beauty of philosophy is that the questions have been the same since the beginning of time.
02:01:58.000And if you can get yourself up to speed on what all the other thinkers have thought, you can engage in the same conversation that's been going on for 3000 years.
02:02:07.000I notice you've been delving into the Bible.
02:02:09.000It seems like you've... The Bible, the ancients, Aristotle, Plato... I've been reading all of it.
02:02:34.000They offer your service, and I disagree.
02:02:37.000I don't think we have edgy teenage anti-war talking points.
02:02:40.000I think they're fundamentally ethical questions that we ask ourselves about why we go into these countries at all.
02:02:46.000And I'll tell you this, we've absolutely entertained all of the nuance here.
02:02:49.000We've had people on the show who talk about how we need to maintain some force to prevent the country from falling into a complete disaster.
02:02:54.000It's a mess that we created that we're responsible for.
02:02:57.000And I look at what's happening in Afghanistan and I'm like, it really is said that there could have been stability, there could have been stores and happiness and some values that we do like, but we are not Afghanistan.
02:03:10.000It's not about edgy teenage talking points, it's about being an adult and saying, you're supposed to be responsible for yourself.
02:03:16.000You're not supposed to aggress on other people and you're supposed to mind your own business.
02:03:20.000And there's also the fundamental understanding of China's expansion, other countries expanding, why we want to occupy the strategic location in the first place, what it would lead to if we leave.
02:03:30.000But there's one big issue, I think, here.
02:03:33.000I've often talked about, you know, in 2016, for instance, I said, if you like the status quo, vote for Hillary Clinton.
02:03:37.000You'll get all the exact same stuff, the war, the conflict, the crisis, the market manipulations, all that.
02:03:42.000If you want change, then you gotta, I guess, vote for Trump, because he's something totally crazy, and for me, I didn't vote.
02:03:49.000But the issue is, I guess it's utilitarianism versus deontological thinking or there's probably some other moral issues here.
02:03:56.000The people who are like, I'm willing to violate the rights of others for some justifiable ends.
02:04:04.000We aren't going to reach the end goal of like defeating China and say, OK, the mission's over and we can all sit back and just rest easy now that we've won because there's never going to be a conflict.
02:04:13.000No, there's always going to be conflict.
02:04:15.000You know, which I can give you a really easy example of how to understand this.
02:04:20.000Name any TV show where there's, like, a protagonist, an antagonist, and then when they finally overcome and defeat the antagonist, a new villain emerges!
02:04:28.000You know, like in Stargate, for instance.
02:04:29.000They defeat the Goa'uld, and then all of a sudden the Ori show up.
02:04:32.000You can use any show, for instance, where new villains arise.
02:04:35.000So, there's always a power vacuum, there's always conflict.
02:04:38.000Do we decide that we are going to have the ends justify the means, and then do a really, really awful thing, oppressing people and causing war, conflict, death, hundreds of thousands of civilian casualties, because of some nebulous and vague utopian ideal of what we're supposed to accomplish?
02:04:51.000No, I think no we can't, because the journey is where we are.
02:04:54.000So, we have to make the journey where we want to be.
02:05:01.000Yeah, Bush is Hitler, and war is dumb, and it's like, my thing is like, imagine what we could have done with that two trillion dollars if we put into an Alaska.
02:05:11.000You know, we had Jack and Daniel on, and we were like, imagine if we occupied, like, the nation building in Alaska.
02:05:37.000Could you imagine if they spent all that money building a massive city in Alaska that made Alaska actually have industry and stuff like that?
02:06:14.000We're going around to 10 cities across the country for food, folks, and fun, fellowship, to break bread and drink wine with people that see the world the way that you do, to give you social connections, to have fun so you don't feel isolated and alone or like you're crazy.