Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - May 18, 2022


Timcast IRL - Biden Ministry Of Truth IS DONE, Director QUITS w-Libby Emmons & Elad Eliahu


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 5 minutes

Words per Minute

202.76683

Word Count

25,454

Sentence Count

2,053

Misogynist Sentences

83

Hate Speech Sentences

56


Summary

Libby Emmons and Shamus Coghlan join host Emily Edwards ( ) to discuss all the latest in the world of politics, sports, and pop culture. Plus, a story about a woman who almost broke her arm in a skateboarding accident.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 you you
00:00:49.000 you Joe Biden's disinformation board is done
00:01:08.000 It has been suspended, and Nina Jankowikz, the director of this program, has resigned in shame.
00:01:15.000 Yeah, it's entirely our fault.
00:01:16.000 the news breaks through Taylor Lorenz who writes an opinion piece about it blaming who was a Jack
00:01:21.000 Posobiec and the post-millennial. Yeah, maybe your fault.
00:01:24.000 Yeah, it's entirely our fault. We take the credit. Yeah. All right. We got a bunch of other stories,
00:01:30.000 though. Half of Joe Biden's followers are fake, according to an audit. Elon Musk is confirming
00:01:35.000 yes, in fact, he will be voting Republican. Twitter says they're going to force him to buy
00:01:40.000 Twitter. And they say they, Axios says they turn they turn the table on him. And I'm like, they
00:01:46.000 didn't want to sell him in the first place.
00:01:48.000 And now they're demanding it.
00:01:49.000 I think Elon has won this one.
00:01:52.000 We've got a couple other interesting stories.
00:01:54.000 There was a news that broke of a female skateboarder who lost.
00:01:59.000 She won second place, but she was knocked down because of a male athlete, a trans woman.
00:02:05.000 Who competed and she made a post about an Instagram that's going viral at the state.
00:02:10.000 So we'll discuss that too.
00:02:11.000 Skateboarding, of course, is near and dear to my heart.
00:02:13.000 I know a lot about this and a lot about the physics involved, which matters when it comes to the difference between differences between males and females.
00:02:20.000 But then we also have the U.S.
00:02:21.000 soccer.
00:02:22.000 The men and women are going to share the World Cup prizes.
00:02:25.000 Yeah, that doesn't seem reasonable at all.
00:02:26.000 That seems weird.
00:02:27.000 Yeah, but we'll talk about it.
00:02:28.000 And obviously Libby's here.
00:02:30.000 Here I am.
00:02:30.000 Who are you?
00:02:31.000 I'm Libby Emmons.
00:02:32.000 I'm the editor in chief with the Post Millennial.
00:02:34.000 Glad to be here.
00:02:36.000 Right on.
00:02:36.000 We got Shim Sham.
00:02:37.000 Shamus.
00:02:38.000 I'm Shamus Coghlan.
00:02:39.000 I create cartoons at Freedom Tunes.
00:02:41.000 If you guys want to check that out, go over there.
00:02:43.000 We're going to be releasing a new cartoon tomorrow.
00:02:45.000 Also, if you want to go to freedomtunes.com, put your email address in the little box.
00:02:49.000 We will email you when we launch on May 30th.
00:02:52.000 We're also going to have a subscription service where you'll get extra cartoons for five bucks a month.
00:02:58.000 We got Elad.
00:02:58.000 He's back.
00:02:59.000 Awesome.
00:02:59.000 What's up, everybody?
00:03:00.000 I am Elad.
00:03:01.000 I'm an on-the-ground reporter for Timcast.
00:03:03.000 Thanks for having me.
00:03:04.000 And honorary Ian today.
00:03:06.000 Honorary Ian.
00:03:06.000 Excited to be the chair.
00:03:07.000 Honorary.
00:03:08.000 Not really Ian, but you know.
00:03:09.000 Close enough.
00:03:10.000 He's our knockoff Ian for the evening.
00:03:12.000 I am also here pushing buttons in the corner, as I do every evening.
00:03:15.000 Great value, Ian.
00:03:17.000 Yes.
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00:05:22.000 Let's jump into the first big news!
00:05:25.000 So, just right off the bat, it was a terrible idea.
00:05:27.000 I don't think he's doing this because of free speech.
00:05:28.000 I think it's polling poorly among Democrats.
00:05:30.000 governance board. The board's executive director Anita Jankowik announced her
00:05:33.000 departure from the Department of Homeland Security. So just right off the
00:05:38.000 bat, it was a terrible idea. I don't think he's doing this because of free
00:05:42.000 speech. I think it's polling poorly among Democrats. Bill Maher came out on
00:05:47.000 his show and said, these are not bright people in government. So when you get
00:05:51.000 Bill Maher on his show to a million liberals saying this is bad, don't be
00:05:55.000 surprised then when they're like, oh, we got a midterm coming up and we're
00:05:58.000 Well, wait, I mean, how do we know this is true or not if Biden suspended the disinformation board?
00:06:03.000 We do know it.
00:06:04.000 In fact, there was a question about it today in the White House press conference with the new press secretary, Corinne Jean-Pierre.
00:06:11.000 Peter Doocy asked if perhaps the disinformation governance board was suspended due to disinformation.
00:06:18.000 There we go.
00:06:21.000 John Pierre basically confirmed that yes, there was misinformation surrounding the Disinformation Governance Board that a lot of people had slammed it.
00:06:32.000 It's the perfect crime.
00:06:33.000 It's the perfect crime, yeah, that a lot of people had slammed it.
00:06:36.000 It was actually pretty amazing to see this come down today.
00:06:40.000 That's misinformation.
00:06:41.000 I don't believe it.
00:06:42.000 No, I mean that seriously.
00:06:43.000 That they were like, oh, you know, people were spreading lies about it, so we had to shut it down.
00:06:47.000 No, no, no, no, no.
00:06:48.000 No, it was obviously not lies.
00:06:50.000 It was obvious that people were spreading truth about it.
00:06:52.000 In fact, the head of the Ministry of Truth, the Minister of Truth, Nina Jankowicz, had spread substantial amounts of misinformation all by
00:07:00.000 herself on her own feeds.
00:07:02.000 And it was spectacular because as soon as she was announced, as soon as she came out on Twitter
00:07:06.000 and announced that this is what she'd been working on for the last seven months,
00:07:09.000 Jack Posobiec went out there and just started pulling all of her old tweets and all of her
00:07:14.000 old things where she was talking about Russia collusion and all of these things, COVID things,
00:07:20.000 and she was like just spreading misinformation and disinformation all over the place.
00:07:24.000 You know what, I really hope her and James Lindsay end up in a musical together.
00:07:27.000 Yes.
00:07:28.000 Did you guys see her singing?
00:07:29.000 The whole thing.
00:07:30.000 People were like making fun of her.
00:07:31.000 I was like, dude, make fun of her for the misinformation.
00:07:32.000 Don't make fun of her for singing.
00:07:34.000 Well, the political singing was real cringe.
00:07:37.000 When she did the Mary Poppins political thing, I was like, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on.
00:07:42.000 What are we doing here?
00:07:42.000 I don't know, convince me.
00:07:43.000 But the actual, you know, she got ragged on by the Colorado Defender when she was doing that, what do I gotta do to be famous bit.
00:07:49.000 I'm like, yeah, it's good Ian.
00:07:51.000 I said I thought her singing was good because it's not political She was just doing a bit and she was like, I want to be famous and then Ian was like no She's got her shoulders up and tight.
00:07:59.000 She's not singing from the chest She doesn't know what she's doing and I'm like which is hilarious cuz like usually Ian goes easier on people Even when they say things politically that we very much disagree with but she's singing wrong He's like no, this is absolutely not like we can understand he took theater.
00:08:11.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:08:11.000 He was like I am offended by I studied theater for pretty much my entire life, and I actually thought that it was kind of cute that she was into doing performance art, even though she had this weird government career.
00:08:23.000 I didn't have an issue with that singing.
00:08:26.000 I did have an issue with her COVID misinformation Mary Poppins song.
00:08:31.000 I thought that was total trash.
00:08:32.000 It's weird how when we were young, the adults who were writing books about this stuff, when we weren't even alive, the books that were coming out were like, the future dystopia.
00:08:43.000 Men have steel jaws from the war and metal limbs and cyborgs rule all and the government comes and bangs a giant sword in the ground.
00:08:51.000 Do as you're told.
00:08:52.000 And what we really got was this permanent child who is singing Mary Poppins going, we're good.
00:09:00.000 It's like it's it's substantially creepier, you know Millennials aren't growing up No, but they don't want to.
00:09:07.000 And in part, millennials aren't growing up because adults have told them that adulthood is bad.
00:09:11.000 We come up with words like adulting as though there's some problem with responsibility.
00:09:15.000 And it's like, just grow up.
00:09:16.000 Be responsible.
00:09:17.000 Why?
00:09:18.000 It's not bad.
00:09:18.000 The thing, too, is it's like when you were a kid, remember when you were a kid and everyone wanted to grow up?
00:09:22.000 I don't know if you guys had that.
00:09:23.000 And people were like, oh, I could buy all the toys I want.
00:09:26.000 I'll get to eat all the candy that I want.
00:09:28.000 And it's like now we tell.
00:09:30.000 Yeah, you do.
00:09:30.000 It turns out you do.
00:09:32.000 I buy ice cream and I put it in my fridge, in my freezer, and then we eat it.
00:09:38.000 When I was like 20, I just one day was like, you know, what's one thing I always thought I would do and never did?
00:09:45.000 I'm going to go to the store and buy a whole thing of cookie dough and just walk around eating it.
00:09:48.000 Nice.
00:09:48.000 So I went to the grocery store, I grabbed a thing of cookie dough, I bought it, started eating it, and some little kid saw me and he went, As he walked, as I walked past me, it gets better.
00:09:58.000 And I'm like, I looked at him and I was like, I'm like, that's right.
00:10:01.000 I bite it.
00:10:02.000 And then five minutes later, I went, oh, I didn't see the aftermath.
00:10:06.000 Like, this is why my parents said you don't do these things.
00:10:09.000 By the way, I meant James O'Keefe, not James Lindsay.
00:10:11.000 When I was confused.
00:10:11.000 Oh, I'm so sorry.
00:10:12.000 Yeah, no, no, no, not James.
00:10:13.000 That doesn't make any sense.
00:10:14.000 Yeah.
00:10:14.000 Unless you're talking about like his sword movement.
00:10:16.000 Yeah, no, James Lindsay would never be in a musical.
00:10:18.000 No.
00:10:18.000 Maybe.
00:10:19.000 No, they wouldn't allow it.
00:10:20.000 That's funny, because I pictured James O'Keefe when you said James Lindsay, because I knew that he had done the thing.
00:10:24.000 He's all about musical theater.
00:10:25.000 That would be funny, too, because, like, the left thinks James O'Keefe is just, like, the king of disinformation and manipulation, and the right calls Nina Jankowicz the minister of truth.
00:10:36.000 So, like, Romeo and Juliet with James O'Keefe and Nina Jankowicz.
00:10:40.000 What we have is a Broadway show.
00:10:41.000 Like, what we need is investors.
00:10:43.000 That's all we need.
00:10:43.000 This would sell out.
00:10:44.000 How much do we need?
00:10:46.000 I'll fund it.
00:10:46.000 Right?
00:10:47.000 Like, what do we need for a Broadway show?
00:10:48.000 Like, start with half a million?
00:10:50.000 Done.
00:10:51.000 Let's do it.
00:10:52.000 Sign it.
00:10:52.000 So here's my serious question, though, is when you look at the DHS Disinformation Board and you look at Nina Jankowik's, they literally put a child in charge of the Department of Homeland Security.
00:11:02.000 And the issue is the adults People who are more mature and more understanding aren't in these jobs.
00:11:08.000 Well, what they did was they put a fool in charge of the Department of Homeland Security.
00:11:12.000 They put Mayorkas in charge.
00:11:14.000 And he came out shortly after Biden was inaugurated and said to immigrants all across the world, we're not saying don't come.
00:11:22.000 We're saying don't come now.
00:11:23.000 And then he proceeded to deny that repeat repeatedly that he had said it.
00:11:27.000 And he did say it and he did mean it.
00:11:28.000 And that's that's why we have so many people storming the border.
00:11:33.000 Yeah, I got a good idea for a cartoon you can do Seamus.
00:11:35.000 Yeah, I actually is this about Biden saying comment?
00:11:37.000 Okay.
00:11:38.000 It is the disinformation board announcing they're shutting down.
00:11:42.000 And then all the journalists are like writing it down.
00:11:45.000 And they're like breaking news.
00:11:46.000 And as they're doing it, Nina Jankiewicz presses a button.
00:11:48.000 And then the whole stage like goes down into a sub base where it's like, they walk into the generals like we've increased your funding by $3 billion.
00:11:54.000 And the whole thing was just disinformation.
00:11:57.000 No, they're going, the misinformation board's going out of business!
00:11:59.000 All our misinformation has to go!
00:12:01.000 Misinformation of the dollar, 20% off all misinformation!
00:12:05.000 That's clever, I like that.
00:12:06.000 And then you highlight Nina Jankowik's tweets and the things she said.
00:12:11.000 That's funny because when she said that thing about the laptop, she was like, Joe Biden says 50 different people said this.
00:12:17.000 It was clearly disinformation, or misinformation, whichever one you want to pick.
00:12:21.000 And she was like, I was just quoting the president.
00:12:23.000 It's like, okay, so by your standard, you are spreading disinformation.
00:12:26.000 Thank you.
00:12:27.000 Did you correct it?
00:12:27.000 No.
00:12:28.000 I mean, was that an excuse if Trump said something that was adjudicated to have been false by the fact checkers?
00:12:32.000 Could you say, I was just repeating what the president said, not misinformation.
00:12:36.000 Actually, as you know, whenever Trump would make a claim and the media called him a liar, he would just say, well, that's what I was told.
00:12:42.000 And then the media would go, oh, we get it.
00:12:45.000 We'll retract that.
00:12:47.000 Trump was in fact told that.
00:12:50.000 Actually, it's a funny thing.
00:12:51.000 What if a journalist, you know, Donald Trump said, you know, this will cost X amount of dollars, and they're like, how does that make sense?
00:12:58.000 That's not true.
00:12:59.000 Well, that's what I was told.
00:13:00.000 So a journalist actually investigates and they find the person who told Trump that, and they're like, fact check true.
00:13:06.000 Donald Trump was told this.
00:13:07.000 It was corn pop.
00:13:08.000 They formed an alliance.
00:13:10.000 I'm trying to understand who this was originally angled to try to appeal to in the Biden administration.
00:13:15.000 Was it the MSNBC liberals?
00:13:17.000 I don't understand.
00:13:18.000 Do you think it was to appeal to anyone, or do you think it was just to try to shut people up?
00:13:21.000 Well, what they were actually trying to do, if you look at what their documentation says in the first place, their goal was to dispel disinformation outside of the U.S.
00:13:32.000 Oh, Russian disinfo, right?
00:13:33.000 No, no, like about immigration and stuff.
00:13:36.000 So months and months ago, the White House press secretary, Jen Psaki, had talked about how one of the Biden administration's plans to get people to stop trying to come to the U.S.
00:13:46.000 illegally was to give proper information in those locales to tell them like actually don't come so I think this was part of that effort that was sort of the idea but there's so little goodwill for the Biden administration at this point They spread all kinds of ridiculous misinformation and disinformation that coming out with something like this, they had no chance.
00:14:13.000 If they had come out and said, this is part of our plan to get immigrants to not come to the U.S., we're going to tell them not to come, and gave it some sort of name like that, it would have been much better received, I think, because a lot of people would like there to be more security at the border.
00:14:30.000 Yeah, well, I mean, their entire regime depends upon spreading misinformation, right?
00:14:33.000 When they came out and were saying things like, the reason we have higher prices is because store owners are greedy.
00:14:39.000 Right.
00:14:40.000 And it's Putin's fault that we have high gas prices.
00:14:43.000 I mean- Joe Biden said that to tackle inflation, we're going to make the corporations, or what do you say, make the rich- Make the rich pay more taxes.
00:14:51.000 And then Peter Doocy was like, how does making rich people pay more taxes lower inflation?
00:14:55.000 Well, that counters all of their arguments about how rich people don't... They also say rich people don't stimulate spending, they just hoard all the money.
00:15:01.000 So, by that logic, taxing them could never curb inflation.
00:15:04.000 My favorite is that Joe Biden launched his campaign off of misinformation.
00:15:07.000 And also, they want to... The Charlottesville stuff.
00:15:09.000 Yeah, he sure did.
00:15:10.000 And Rittenhouse and everything, he lied about that.
00:15:12.000 Not to mention that he's run before Charlottesville ever happened.
00:15:16.000 He ran it five times, so... He's lied all the time and he's plagiarized everything.
00:15:22.000 Yep.
00:15:23.000 And he's going to come out and be like, I'm going to tackle this information.
00:15:25.000 I came up with that.
00:15:27.000 And then you're like, there's a guy standing next to him was like writing it down.
00:15:30.000 And he's like, I guess.
00:15:31.000 Yeah, it's pretty sad, but it's pathetic.
00:15:33.000 It's just that this is a regime which repeatedly says things that are verifiably untrue.
00:15:39.000 I mean, we're not just talking about a situation where someone might be using facts which are true to construct a narrative that we disagree with.
00:15:45.000 Like, saying that businesses are raising their prices just because of corporate greed is an unbelievably insane and easily falsifiable thing to say.
00:15:55.000 Did businesses just get greedy after we flooded the economy with extra money?
00:16:00.000 Yes.
00:16:01.000 Oh, okay.
00:16:01.000 Well, never mind.
00:16:02.000 I've been fact-checked.
00:16:03.000 They're all greedy.
00:16:04.000 Yeah, they're super greedy.
00:16:06.000 That's why they're trying so hard to hire people and offering all of these signing bonuses to do so.
00:16:12.000 And what's fascinating to me is they just became greedy after a bunch of money was injected into the economy.
00:16:17.000 That's when they decided to become greedy and raise prices.
00:16:19.000 Interesting.
00:16:21.000 Also, it's interesting that the Biden administration is currently looking to reduce sanctions on Venezuela in order to gain oil exports from that country, as though Venezuela is some perfectly fine place.
00:16:34.000 Like, why did we have sanctions?
00:16:36.000 They haven't made any changes.
00:16:37.000 It's sad that we couldn't force them to come.
00:16:39.000 It's just that we want their stuff.
00:16:40.000 Yeah.
00:16:40.000 And same with Saudi Arabia.
00:16:41.000 If it was Donald Trump, I think we would have been able to get something out of the Saudis, but it might be a whole other conversation.
00:16:46.000 Yeah.
00:16:47.000 Let's talk about Taylor LeRoy.
00:16:50.000 So we got this story from the Washington Post, how the Biden administration let right-wing attacks derail its disinformation efforts.
00:16:58.000 I don't understand why the Washington Post doesn't label this stuff opinion, and I don't understand why NewsGuard gives them a 100 of 100 when they don't label opinion.
00:17:07.000 In it, she says right here that disinformation has emerged as an urgent and important issue.
00:17:11.000 Important to whom?
00:17:13.000 That's your opinion!
00:17:14.000 Hey, why don't you put an opinion on this?
00:17:16.000 People see this stuff and they think it's facts.
00:17:19.000 It is not.
00:17:20.000 It is Taylor Loren's opinion on what happened.
00:17:23.000 So anyway, in the article, she falsely claims it was right-wing disinformation that derailed it when Bill Maher on his show came out and said, this is ridiculous, these are not bright people, what are they doing?
00:17:35.000 Bill Maher, one of the most prominent liberal voices, said this is bad, but it was all the right wing.
00:17:41.000 Now, you know what I'm offended by?
00:17:44.000 She doesn't give Bill Maher any of the credit and she gives it all to you.
00:17:47.000 Yeah, she gives it to the Postmillennial.
00:17:49.000 That's not fair.
00:17:50.000 She claims that the Postmillennial was part of this campaign to take down the Disinformation Governance Board.
00:17:57.000 And you know, perhaps we were.
00:17:59.000 Perhaps we should take some credit for that.
00:18:01.000 Was she knocking on your door?
00:18:03.000 No, she wasn't actually.
00:18:05.000 She's never reached out to us.
00:18:07.000 She blocked me on Twitter.
00:18:08.000 I found that out one time when I Are you blocked?
00:18:11.000 her for a comment about how she had doxed libs of TikTok for no apparent reason.
00:18:16.000 And she blocked me on Twitter.
00:18:17.000 It was completely unreasonable.
00:18:19.000 All I did was put up a billboard in Times Square saying that she doxed libs of TikTok
00:18:22.000 and then she blocked me.
00:18:23.000 Seamus, are you blocked by Taylor Swift?
00:18:25.000 Let's see.
00:18:26.000 I guess this is a real test of whether I'm like a real concern.
00:18:30.000 Are you blocked?
00:18:31.000 I don't know.
00:18:31.000 Really?
00:18:31.000 You are?
00:18:32.000 Yeah.
00:18:32.000 Is that the threshold?
00:18:32.000 Why does she block you?
00:18:34.000 Hold on.
00:18:34.000 I think she might have blocked people by, like, if you follow.
00:18:36.000 Like a blocked list.
00:18:38.000 Yeah.
00:18:38.000 Something like that.
00:18:39.000 Yeah.
00:18:39.000 Well, I'm on a lot of those.
00:18:40.000 What's interesting, though, is that she's claiming that we dug up Nina Jankowicz's past social media posts and published articles to generate controversy.
00:18:51.000 It was not to generate controversy.
00:18:52.000 It was to expose exactly who was the minister of truth who was running this bogus organization, who was running this operation.
00:18:59.000 To expose who it was that the Biden administration thought it was worthwhile to put in charge of something this serious.
00:19:05.000 Someone who had spread disinformation themselves.
00:19:07.000 Someone who had, you know, essentially called for censorship.
00:19:12.000 And someone who clearly should not be trusted to give accurate or truthful information.
00:19:17.000 It is extremely ironic because Jack Posobiec just found Jenkiewicz's early tweets and released them.
00:19:23.000 He took a look at it, yeah.
00:19:25.000 That's the first thing Taylor Lorenz does when she tries to make a hit piece on somebody.
00:19:28.000 They just look up their old tweets.
00:19:29.000 This is what Glenn Greenwald pointed out.
00:19:31.000 He said, according to Taylor Lorenz, you are not allowed to dig into the private information of high-ranking Homeland Security officials, but it's okay to go after an anonymous person who has bad ideas.
00:19:43.000 Exactly.
00:19:43.000 When did the role of journalist become being tattletales on your average person?
00:19:48.000 Someone on Twitter said something that I don't like.
00:19:50.000 I need to expose them.
00:19:50.000 Well, I'll tell you exactly when that happened.
00:19:51.000 Almost always, hasn't it?
00:19:53.000 But like the average person?
00:19:54.000 I don't know.
00:19:55.000 It happened with me, too.
00:19:57.000 It happened with me, too.
00:19:58.000 Because that was the first time when it was acceptable to just start telling tales out of school about somebody's bad date.
00:20:04.000 I think I think I view journalists like mini-me like Dr. Evil is the government and mini-me is just like, you know, well, I mean you made this point That's always what they've done.
00:20:14.000 I agree with you that it's it's always been very much corrupt I mean the mainstream media in this country has been as it been a disaster for a lot longer than people realize but it's the going after like everyday average random people thing which is is very strange and and Yeah, there are creepy weirdo authoritarians running most of our institutions.
00:20:36.000 When you look at the Supreme Court leaks, these crackpots, these people, are in everything.
00:20:45.000 They have no regard for tradition or culture.
00:20:50.000 And I'm not saying all tradition, all culture.
00:20:52.000 I'm saying they have no regard for community.
00:20:54.000 They have no regard for any kind of norms, respect.
00:20:58.000 I imagine they have their moral compass, their moral foundation, sorry.
00:21:07.000 Zero, nothing.
00:21:08.000 They don't even have care and fairness.
00:21:09.000 It's just literally nothing.
00:21:10.000 They're just confused, angry people.
00:21:12.000 Well, they think that they're doing the right thing.
00:21:14.000 I don't believe that.
00:21:14.000 You don't think that they think they're doing the right thing?
00:21:16.000 I think they think that they're doing the appropriate thing by leaking this information.
00:21:20.000 I think they're NPCs.
00:21:23.000 You think Taylor Lorenz is an NPC?
00:21:25.000 I think Taylor Lorenz is the perfect example of a modern shock jock.
00:21:31.000 I think, based on conversations I've had with people in the industry, it seems to me, it's my opinion, that she was hired specifically to generate outrage and controversy by writing shock content that is bordering on defamation.
00:21:45.000 The goal being, why are we talking about the Washington Post now?
00:21:50.000 Because she writes something that's a clear opinion, not labeled as opinion, knowing it'll anger a lot of people.
00:21:55.000 She accuses only the right, ignores Bill Maher, which will clearly, the right will be like, hey, you can't say, that's not true and you're wrong.
00:22:02.000 And then shows will produce segments where we'll talk about her, it will generate earned press, and that's what they want.
00:22:09.000 So, I've had some conversations.
00:22:12.000 I'm trying to get better confirmation.
00:22:14.000 But my understanding is that the people at the Post are well aware of it.
00:22:18.000 That there are veteran journalists who throw up in their mouths a little bit every day because they're sickened by what the paper has become.
00:22:25.000 Because they know she was brought on specifically as a shock jock.
00:22:28.000 As a culture warrior shock jock to generate scandal.
00:22:31.000 And that's her thing.
00:22:32.000 Well, and she does, and then she goes on TV and cries about it when people don't like what she writes.
00:22:35.000 For better or worse, I think reporting's always had this issue where people have been activists, but the more I get involved and the more I pay attention to the news, the more I realize that it's almost everybody that's an activist reporter nowadays.
00:22:46.000 It's hard to find anybody who isn't really just trying to back up their priors.
00:22:49.000 This is extremely true with Taylor Renz, but she's not the only one.
00:22:54.000 No, definitely not.
00:22:55.000 Definitely not.
00:22:55.000 I mean, I've probably brought him up a million times on this show, but we talk a bit about Walter Durante every now and again.
00:23:02.000 I mean, this is very early stuff.
00:23:04.000 We're going back to, what, the 30s here?
00:23:06.000 And the fact that he was covering up the Soviet genocide because he was himself a communist and won a Pulitzer for it.
00:23:12.000 And they're winning Pulitzers for fake news to this day.
00:23:14.000 I don't think they rescinded that Pulitzer.
00:23:15.000 They did not rescind the Pulitzer.
00:23:16.000 That's what it was too.
00:23:17.000 They didn't rescind it either, which is insane.
00:23:20.000 We've talked about doing our own journalistic award ceremony to counter the Pulitzers.
00:23:24.000 The Timmy's?
00:23:26.000 I would not call it that.
00:23:26.000 That's a terrible name.
00:23:29.000 But we would call it something.
00:23:31.000 Maybe like the Truth Award.
00:23:34.000 That's great branding.
00:23:35.000 Like, if you call your social network Truth Social.
00:23:38.000 Yeah, that's what Trump would call it.
00:23:40.000 I don't think you should call it that.
00:23:41.000 No, I think it's a terrible idea.
00:23:43.000 He's actually trademarked the word truth.
00:23:45.000 It is a terrible name.
00:23:46.000 Someone pointed out, I saw a tweet, they're like, why didn't he call it Covfefe?
00:23:50.000 Like, everybody would have been like, download the Kefifi app, and everybody would want it.
00:23:55.000 Trump's Kefifi app, and you need a weird name, but it's like, truth!
00:23:59.000 And then you, like, post truths.
00:24:01.000 I hate that.
00:24:01.000 I hate posting truths.
00:24:02.000 There's a disinformation board, like, you post anything that's not true, you're kicked off the website.
00:24:06.000 Like, that's it.
00:24:06.000 Right.
00:24:07.000 I'm gonna re-truth.
00:24:08.000 Ah, geez.
00:24:08.000 Re-truth.
00:24:09.000 Yikes.
00:24:10.000 Terrible branding.
00:24:10.000 That actually sounds, uh, that sounds like something the disinformation governance board would do.
00:24:14.000 They would re-truth.
00:24:15.000 I think the institutions are in decay.
00:24:18.000 I think that the culture war is split between those in the know and those who are not in the know.
00:24:23.000 It has nothing to do with your political positions because I think everyone here has varying political positions we all disagree with each other on because we've had these conversations before to a great degree including foreign war or abortion but we all agree on Basically, what's the fact?
00:24:38.000 And so, if that's what unites this table and the people watching, we're like, okay, what's true and what's not true?
00:24:46.000 What can be verified?
00:24:47.000 What's not verified?
00:24:49.000 And then the other side of the culture war are people who have no idea the Democrats tried to create, make a legal path towards third trimester or, you know, late term abortions.
00:24:59.000 Well, they did.
00:25:00.000 It's right there in the woman's house.
00:25:01.000 But they didn't read the book.
00:25:02.000 I mean, I'm sorry, they didn't read the bill.
00:25:03.000 Oh, it's right there.
00:25:04.000 I read the bill.
00:25:06.000 But that's exactly it.
00:25:07.000 So if I read the bill and I'm like, that's what it says, why does it say that?
00:25:13.000 And then we have a liberal progressive on the show who are like, no, no, no.
00:25:17.000 It's like, did you read the bill?
00:25:18.000 No.
00:25:18.000 You have to read the bill.
00:25:19.000 That was like the parental rights and education bill.
00:25:21.000 No one read that bill either.
00:25:23.000 And so you had a bunch of people coming out, including Mark Hamill, just being like, gay, gay, gay.
00:25:28.000 And it's like, no one is prohibited from saying that.
00:25:32.000 Children!
00:25:32.000 It's saying don't teach them about weird sex acts in school.
00:25:36.000 It literally, when they were all screaming gay over and over again, I'm like, imagine being in a daycare and all the kids are yelling neener, neener.
00:25:45.000 And you're like, kids, be quiet.
00:25:46.000 Kids, stop yelling that.
00:25:48.000 And they're all going, neater, neater, and they won't stop.
00:25:51.000 That's what it is.
00:25:52.000 They're all yelling something, and you're like, why are you yelling this?
00:25:55.000 Some kid goes, hey, if you yell neater, neater, they're going to get us ice cream.
00:25:58.000 So they all start screaming, and you're like, I'm not going to do that.
00:26:00.000 That's not children.
00:26:02.000 They don't know what they're talking about.
00:26:04.000 They're too arrogant to actually read it.
00:26:07.000 They believe these psychotic ramblings of people like Taylor Lorenz.
00:26:11.000 And then we have to deal with the problems when they go and vote for nonsensical garbage.
00:26:16.000 Yes.
00:26:17.000 Like children suddenly believing that they are actually the opposite sex just because they came up with it randomly.
00:26:23.000 It's crazy because the truth here in these larger narratives almost doesn't matter.
00:26:27.000 It doesn't matter what the bill says as long as you're allowed to run on it and are able to run on it as like the don't say gay bill.
00:26:32.000 That's the only thing that people are going to really understand.
00:26:34.000 And that was disinformation.
00:26:35.000 That was disinformation and it was repeated by the White House over and over again.
00:26:39.000 It was repeated in the briefing room.
00:26:41.000 You know, it's disinformation that Joe Biden says that the best course forward is gender affirmation, telling parents to affirm their children and it will save their lives.
00:26:51.000 That's disinformation.
00:26:53.000 This White House consistently spreads falsehoods and claims that it's true.
00:26:58.000 Well, how about we talk about those falsehoods?
00:26:59.000 We got this report from Newsweek.
00:27:01.000 Half of Joe Biden's Twitter followers are fake!
00:27:06.000 What's disinformation?
00:27:08.000 People are going, you're telling me he got 80 million followers?
00:27:11.000 No.
00:27:13.000 I believe this was true also.
00:27:14.000 We were looking at this today at Post Millennial.
00:27:16.000 I think this was also true of Justin Trudeau's Twitter followers.
00:27:20.000 Most of them are.
00:27:20.000 What is this based off of?
00:27:22.000 Well, there's an audit company.
00:27:24.000 It's called Sparktor.
00:27:25.000 It's based on Dinesh's documentary.
00:27:28.000 Because I'm really cynical about this stuff only because I know when you sign up to Twitter, you're going to get like three people.
00:27:33.000 It's going to be like Joe Biden, Elon Musk, and like Jack or something.
00:27:38.000 So I'd understand why, so I'd like to look at, I don't know, I'd like to understand the methodology a little bit, what's going on.
00:27:44.000 I don't know if they reveal their methodology, and I think they said fake or spam accounts.
00:27:50.000 And it's, I'm sorry, that was Musk, that was Musk.
00:27:52.000 Well I guess they said there was like this tweet harvesting going on for Joe Biden.
00:27:55.000 It's not clear how Musk arrived at the 20% figure, he figured out a goal and changed a series of tweets, anyway.
00:28:00.000 So, there's a couple ways to do it.
00:28:02.000 I think Elon may have made a mistake.
00:28:04.000 When Agrawal said it was less than 5%, he said of daily active users.
00:28:09.000 Of their active users, the fake accounts comprise of less than 5%.
00:28:12.000 Elon Musk, based on this, said all users must be around 20%.
00:28:17.000 So there's a difference.
00:28:18.000 There are a lot of users that don't do anything.
00:28:20.000 They're counting monthly or daily active users or whatever.
00:28:23.000 But, I believe this is likely true.
00:28:28.000 Because the at POTUS account, whenever a bot or a spam bot will sign up, it's going to follow prominent accounts to try and look real.
00:28:34.000 And of course it's going to follow the president.
00:28:36.000 So that it's like following a bunch of verified accounts.
00:28:38.000 And here's a big one.
00:28:39.000 Well, isn't it funny how like it's a bunch of accounts with people who we know are not the actual person following an account that we know is not being tweeted by the actual person either.
00:28:47.000 It's like Joe Biden's not running the Twitter account.
00:28:50.000 The whole thing is fake.
00:28:51.000 Joe Biden's not running the Twitter account.
00:28:53.000 He's not running the country.
00:28:54.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:28:56.000 Well, Elon Musk said it's whoever's controlling the teleprompter.
00:28:58.000 But yeah, Donald Trump actually was tweeting.
00:29:00.000 There is no denying it.
00:29:01.000 Donald Trump was actually tweeting from the bathroom.
00:29:03.000 He could not hire a writer to write those things.
00:29:05.000 He was tweeting from the bathroom, Donald Trump, as president.
00:29:08.000 Isn't that how everybody tweets?
00:29:10.000 Can you imagine someone being like, I was Donald Trump's tweet writer?
00:29:13.000 Like putting that on your resume?
00:29:15.000 No, it was Trump.
00:29:16.000 There's no way anyone else said any of that.
00:29:17.000 Would you imagine the staffers outside the bathroom reading a tweet?
00:29:22.000 He would watch Fox News and then he would tweet it right away and it'd be like, Tucker said this, or did you hear about this?
00:29:29.000 Then he would go to rallies and he'd repeat it.
00:29:31.000 It was really obvious that he would just watch Fox and be like, boom, something happened.
00:29:35.000 I kind of, I liked it.
00:29:36.000 I mean, you know, and, and, you know, being a journalist and seeing Trump just tweet random things was really a lot of fun.
00:29:46.000 You could get like a whole bunch of stories to talk about what Trump was saying on Twitter.
00:29:50.000 I was told by corporate journalists that it was violence.
00:29:55.000 That every day, there were journalists at news organizations who were told, your job is to keep refreshing Trump's Twitter feed, and then when he says something, write it up.
00:30:07.000 Oh my goodness.
00:30:08.000 And they were saying it was violence, his tweets?
00:30:10.000 They were saying that it was, like, stressful, and that they needed, like, you know, health days, that once he lost the election, they were like, finally, it's over.
00:30:18.000 Or, I'm sorry, once he got banned.
00:30:19.000 They were like, like, I'm crying tears of joy, like, I can go back to normal working now, no more stress.
00:30:26.000 They were saying how they would get text messages at 2 in the morning from their boss, being like, Trump just tweeted, write it up, and they'd be like, ahhh!
00:30:32.000 It's ironic.
00:30:34.000 It's really not that bad.
00:30:36.000 I work from home.
00:30:37.000 I live in New York City.
00:30:38.000 I have a job as a journalist.
00:30:40.000 Sometimes I have to write things at 2 a.m.
00:30:41.000 and it's totally fine.
00:30:44.000 I have no problem doing that.
00:30:46.000 As we saw with the Twitter leaks from Veritas, this guy said he worked, what, four hours in the last quarter?
00:30:53.000 That's right. He did their children. They don't want to work. The craziest thing is I saw someone post something
00:30:58.000 where they were like uh
00:31:00.000 They said something about all of my friends who are going on vacation their summer plans
00:31:05.000 and you know i'm stuck here with the kids and i'm and i'm just like
00:31:08.000 I don't understand if he's I don't know if he's complaining or if he's like
00:31:13.000 I don't understand what he's trying to say.
00:31:15.000 But the conversation was basically, like, the, uh, the dinks, the dual-income, no-kids people were, like, going to travel and party and live in the good life.
00:31:22.000 And it's, like... I don't... You know what I don't get?
00:31:24.000 I'll segue, sort of.
00:31:27.000 Why everybody wants to be younger.
00:31:28.000 I don't get that either.
00:31:30.000 I mean, I don't want to be older either, but I don't want to be younger.
00:31:34.000 Well, I don't care either way.
00:31:35.000 It's like you live, you grow, you age, and then you pass.
00:31:38.000 I think aging is going to be painful.
00:31:39.000 I'm not really quite looking forward to that.
00:31:41.000 It's better than the alternative.
00:31:45.000 Yes, it's better than the alternative.
00:31:46.000 A lot of really great people who came before us got old.
00:31:49.000 Yeah.
00:31:50.000 And they died.
00:31:51.000 And I'm just like, why would I not want the human experience?
00:31:54.000 Yeah, that is part of it.
00:31:54.000 Wait, that sounds like a cope.
00:31:56.000 I'd want to live longer if I could.
00:31:57.000 If I could almost live forever.
00:31:59.000 Yeah, because it almost sounds like you say you don't want to live forever because we don't have the opportunity to and I'm saying that to make myself feel better about it.
00:32:06.000 You know, what's funny is I have this same debate with my son, who is 12, and we talk about whether or not you'd want to live forever.
00:32:11.000 And I'm always like, yeah, you'd want to live forever.
00:32:13.000 That's amazing.
00:32:14.000 You know, you could see everything.
00:32:16.000 You could see how the human story comes to a final conclusion, like what really happens.
00:32:20.000 And he's like, yeah, but you'd have to watch all the people that you love and care about die.
00:32:24.000 Why would you want to do that, mom?
00:32:25.000 Yeah, but that's not the issue.
00:32:26.000 The issue is after, you know, a good 30 years, you're like, I understand humans.
00:32:33.000 I don't think there's anything you know, I mean maybe maybe you'll watch I don't want to live forever Maybe you'll watch technology develop and then you'll get to the point where you can plug your brain to the matrix or something But I'm just like I would I would rather in the human experience is the human experience I don't understand what's a bad thing that people want a bad thing.
00:32:48.000 I mean, it's just well I don't understand why it's gonna be avoided.
00:32:51.000 I don't think I actually avoided either personally.
00:32:53.000 I look forward to being old But if there were the opportunity to live further, that would be cool.
00:32:58.000 I'd like to live to be like 150, something like that.
00:33:02.000 Remember when Johnny Knoxville dressed up like an old man and just caused trouble?
00:33:06.000 It's because people are like, he's an old guy.
00:33:07.000 What are you going to do about it?
00:33:09.000 Are you saying that's going to be you as an old man?
00:33:11.000 Like Grandpa Simpson?
00:33:12.000 Yeah.
00:33:13.000 Not Grandpa Simpson like Johnny Knoxville was doing.
00:33:15.000 Like he would walk and he would just like grab a bunch of groceries and just like walk away.
00:33:18.000 But they're like, he's just an old guy.
00:33:19.000 He's confused.
00:33:20.000 That is what Grandpa Simpson does.
00:33:21.000 He says that they let you shoplift.
00:33:23.000 Oh, okay.
00:33:23.000 Okay.
00:33:23.000 Well, there you go.
00:33:24.000 Well, I wouldn't shoplift.
00:33:25.000 But you know, when you're old, it's just like, you just go and do it's like, it's like, you've got nothing left to lose.
00:33:32.000 The world's your oyster.
00:33:33.000 You know, go skydiving.
00:33:34.000 And you're like, when you're like 90.
00:33:36.000 Yes!
00:33:37.000 You could run for president while I go skydiving.
00:33:39.000 You could still be president.
00:33:40.000 I think Bernie Sanders is about to run again, too.
00:33:42.000 Do you think he's going to run?
00:33:44.000 Yeah, I do.
00:33:45.000 I think Donald Trump was probably thinking that.
00:33:47.000 Talking about kids and stuff, I look forward to the summer because I have to travel a lot for work and I'm looking forward to the summer because I'm going to take my son with me to all of the places that I have to go.
00:33:57.000 And I'm stoked!
00:33:58.000 It's going to be awesome.
00:33:59.000 That sounds beautiful.
00:34:00.000 Right?
00:34:01.000 We're gonna like, I'm really hoping I can find good hotels with nice pools.
00:34:05.000 This is what I'm, this is what I'm hoping for for my summer.
00:34:08.000 How did we get into immortality from bots on Twitter?
00:34:10.000 Well, because robots never die.
00:34:13.000 Yeah, those bots are gonna carry Joe Biden's wisdom into the future, Tim.
00:34:17.000 The person running Joe Biden's account is actually a bot.
00:34:20.000 Elon doesn't audit.
00:34:21.000 Okay, that would not be surprising.
00:34:23.000 The person standing at the podium is actually a bot.
00:34:25.000 If you look at the ridiculous things that his account tweets out, it's just so stupid.
00:34:29.000 It would be really funny if just like one day when Joe was like stuttering, a guy walked up with like a screwdriver and like bopped him on the arm and then like jiggled him and then he was like, the economy has been in dire straits for some time.
00:34:40.000 It's like, percussive maintenance, I think they call it.
00:34:44.000 No, like he's malfunctioning.
00:34:46.000 Sparks are coming out.
00:34:47.000 Yeah, somehow Biden thinks Putin is running the country, and that's why everything's going to hell.
00:34:51.000 Well, I saw a conspiracy pyramid a while ago, Tim, and I believe it had Biden is a robot as one of the conspiracy theories.
00:34:58.000 Did it really?
00:34:58.000 Yeah, actually, let me double check.
00:34:59.000 Let me double check.
00:35:00.000 No, no, no.
00:35:01.000 If Biden was a robot, that's like... Conspiracy theories are usually negative, right?
00:35:05.000 It's like a bad thing is happening.
00:35:06.000 If Biden was a robot, I'd be like, oh, that's pretty good, you know?
00:35:08.000 Because, like, right now, I'm actually worried.
00:35:09.000 It wouldn't be such a bad robot.
00:35:11.000 He's not a bad robot.
00:35:12.000 I'm worried about Biden's capabilities to do the job, and if it turned out he's actually a robot, I'd be like, oh, okay, you know?
00:35:18.000 You know, Biden's in poor health, but the robot's all right.
00:35:21.000 I think we should be concerned about Biden's ability to run the country.
00:35:24.000 Oh, one million percent.
00:35:25.000 I mean, we should have been concerned during the primaries.
00:35:27.000 We were.
00:35:28.000 We were.
00:35:28.000 It's really terrifying to see someone who is as dotty and confused as this old man is actually try to lead the entire world, essentially, which is the job.
00:35:40.000 I mean, the fact that the Democratic Party even picked him, like they had other options.
00:35:45.000 They had other options.
00:35:46.000 They had.
00:35:46.000 They picked a man.
00:35:47.000 I don't know why they don't.
00:35:48.000 Like, if the idea was that anyone could beat Trump, why not run Buttigieg?
00:35:53.000 Right.
00:35:54.000 They're just like, nah.
00:35:54.000 Well, we have him now anyway.
00:35:56.000 He's out there fixing potholes.
00:35:57.000 What do you think about Elon?
00:35:58.000 He tweeted that he's officially running as a Republican.
00:36:01.000 I'm sorry.
00:36:01.000 He's a Voting, yeah, calm down!
00:36:03.000 We need a disinformation board right now.
00:36:05.000 Hold on, by the way, I have to say, so I pulled the conspiracy theory pyramid up again.
00:36:10.000 Yes, Biden as a robot is a conspiracy theory out there.
00:36:12.000 Not only that, but it is a theory that makes you a danger to yourself and others to believe.
00:36:21.000 So Elon Musk tweeted, And he also then tweets, What do you guys think?
00:36:24.000 Does it matter?
00:36:24.000 Mostly the kindness party, but they have become the party of division and hate.
00:36:28.000 So I can no longer support them and will vote Republican.
00:36:30.000 Now watch their dirty tricks campaign against me unfold."
00:36:34.000 And he also then tweets, political attacks on me will escalate dramatically in coming
00:36:39.000 months.
00:36:40.000 What do you guys think?
00:36:41.000 Does it matter?
00:36:43.000 Is it something we all have experienced ourselves and know already?
00:36:46.000 I think one thing that it shows is how far to the left the Republican Party has actually
00:36:51.000 Yeah.
00:36:51.000 It's substantially to the left of what it used to be.
00:36:54.000 And you can tell because people like Elon Musk are going to vote Republican after a lifetime of voting Democrat.
00:37:00.000 I'm essentially a conservative because the Democrats have gone so far to the left and I stayed right here and the Republicans came over and I was like, oh hey fellas.
00:37:08.000 Exactly.
00:37:09.000 No, it's true, and I hear so many people say that.
00:37:12.000 The only time I've ever heard someone say something along the lines of, I'm on the left just because the Republican Party's gone so far right, is when they're on corporate media, and they're some rhino.
00:37:22.000 Right.
00:37:22.000 It's like, oh, no one in real life says that, ever.
00:37:26.000 It's not true.
00:37:27.000 It's like some 60-year-old millionaire warmonger who's like, I don't know.
00:37:31.000 I don't recognize my party anymore.
00:37:33.000 Yes.
00:37:33.000 The Democrats want to blow up kids in the Middle East, so I'm going to vote for them.
00:37:37.000 It's like, OK, that's why I won't.
00:37:39.000 That's why I won't.
00:37:40.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:37:41.000 It's the same.
00:37:41.000 I'm super conflicted on Elon Musk continuing to, like, evolve and put his hands more into politics because he's going to be another billionaire, potentially funding candidates in the future.
00:37:52.000 He might be another Peter Thiel type figure in the future.
00:37:55.000 So it'll be interesting to see how he changes and develops.
00:37:58.000 But I am highly I wonder why he would fund any politicians.
00:38:02.000 Do we really think he has to?
00:38:03.000 Well, because he's trying to get involved in politics one way or another.
00:38:06.000 But he can't be president, right?
00:38:09.000 No, he can't.
00:38:09.000 Because he was born in South Africa.
00:38:10.000 But it wouldn't be worth it for him to run.
00:38:12.000 He could just have his paws on different elections by funding people.
00:38:16.000 But what I was trying to get to in a full circle kind of way is that he still has deep connections to China.
00:38:21.000 He still has Tesla factories in China.
00:38:23.000 And he will still be at the whim of this government, the Chinese government.
00:38:27.000 The Communist Chinese government, that is.
00:38:28.000 If he does want to do any business there in the future, he needs to make sure he doesn't step on any toes.
00:38:32.000 I know we kind of overlooked that because Musk has become this sort of anti-left figure.
00:38:36.000 No, we don't know that.
00:38:37.000 We talk about it all the time.
00:38:38.000 That what?
00:38:39.000 That Elon Musk has praised China on more than one occasion.
00:38:41.000 That he's got factories in China.
00:38:43.000 Sure, but he's kind of become a hero in some online anti-left circles because he is a big voice willing to come out against these people.
00:38:50.000 And it seems as though all you have to do nowadays to get a lot of fans on Twitter is say the obvious that men can't become women or something like that.
00:38:57.000 So it's just, I think people ought to be cautious who they end up supporting being reactionaries against others.
00:39:03.000 But if you think about saying men can't become women on Twitter a month ago, that would have gotten you banned from the platform.
00:39:09.000 Maybe, maybe.
00:39:10.000 Twitter's bans are, it's a caste system.
00:39:13.000 The more followers you have, the more you can say.
00:39:16.000 So I said, I tweeted, what did I tweet?
00:39:18.000 Don't cut off teenage girls' tits.
00:39:20.000 And someone reported me, and I got an email from Twitter, and it was like, you've been reported under German law or whatever, and we found no violation.
00:39:27.000 Whenever I tweet stuff like this, people are like, oh, Tim's gonna get banned now, and I'm like, are you kidding, dude?
00:39:31.000 I got a million followers, they're not gonna ban me.
00:39:33.000 Well, the Babylon Bee got banned for saying that Rachel Levine, who's obviously a man, is a man.
00:39:38.000 That's because Twitter's policy is if you target an individual.
00:39:42.000 Oh, I see.
00:39:43.000 Yeah, so if you say a generality, then they give you more leeway.
00:39:47.000 If you have a small account, like 100 followers, and you say, you know, men and women are different or something, they'll ban you.
00:39:52.000 If you have a big account, like the Babylon Beans said, men are different, they'd leave you alone, but they said Rachel Levine specifically.
00:39:57.000 Is it too cliche to say that double mastectomies are modern day lobotomies, almost, in a way?
00:40:03.000 Well, they don't, they don't remove your brain.
00:40:05.000 They don't remove the same thing, but just as we look at back on lobotomies now, sort of medical malpractice is how in the future we would look back on these sort of surgeries.
00:40:13.000 It's certainly an anti-mother operation.
00:40:17.000 I think it's like a butchering.
00:40:18.000 It's like the next stage of plastic surgery and kind of a butchering of a body.
00:40:23.000 Yeah.
00:40:23.000 I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to deviate too far from what we were talking about because we are going to talk about this in just a second.
00:40:28.000 Sure.
00:40:29.000 So, you know, talking about Elon and Twitter.
00:40:30.000 Sure Wolf, around the top of Elon, I just want to respond to what you said.
00:40:33.000 I totally agree.
00:40:34.000 I've said this in the past.
00:40:35.000 I'm cautiously optimistic about Elon.
00:40:37.000 I'm not totally sold, and it's absolutely true.
00:40:40.000 All someone has to say is, I'm not completely all the way on the far left with respect to one single issue, or I think the left has gone too far here, and all of a sudden the right wing is all over that person.
00:40:50.000 Yeah, and there's also a lot of parallels between Elon Musk and somebody who's commonly demonized, Bill Gates.
00:40:55.000 I mean, these are both people who had their come-ups in the tech industry.
00:40:59.000 And some of the stuff Elon Musk says is crazier than what Bill Gates says.
00:41:02.000 Elon Musk is the chip planter.
00:41:04.000 Elon Musk and Bill Gates, Romeo and Juliet.
00:41:08.000 And they're both billionaires.
00:41:09.000 They're both, you know, the richest people that existed during their time period, during the top.
00:41:13.000 But Bill Gates gets demonized like no other, and Elon Musk becomes a hero of the same people.
00:41:17.000 The same people who will complain about Bill Gates being some demonic, you know, cabal man will praise Elon Musk for the simplest things on Twitter.
00:41:25.000 Sure, but I want to mention one thing about that.
00:41:26.000 That's the Broadway show, though, if I may.
00:41:28.000 That's the Broadway show.
00:41:29.000 Nina Jankowicz plays Elon Musk as Juliet, and James O'Keefe plays Bill Gates as Romeo.
00:41:38.000 So that's the show.
00:41:39.000 To your point, I hear in, but so the reason I consider myself cautiously optimistic about Elon Musk, but I don't like Bill Gates comes down to really one really important issue.
00:41:49.000 It's that Bill Gates has repeatedly said things like there are too many people in this world.
00:41:52.000 He's discussed population control, whereas Elon Musk is basically the only ultra wealthy person saying we need more people.
00:41:59.000 And that's why the overpopulation narrative is a myth.
00:42:02.000 No, I'm not a fan of the brain chips.
00:42:04.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:42:05.000 I'm not a fan of the brain chips.
00:42:06.000 But I think it's gotten to the point where there are so few elites saying anything even remotely sane that when one of them does, it's a victory.
00:42:14.000 And doesn't he have a bunch of kids?
00:42:16.000 Yes.
00:42:16.000 I know Bill Gates also has a history with his father supporting Margaret Thatcher or Sanger in the past.
00:42:22.000 That wouldn't shock me.
00:42:23.000 With connections with Planned Parenthood.
00:42:24.000 But I still think, you know, if you want to extrapolate what Elon Musk says with the brain chips, it's just as bad as anything I think Bill Gates has said.
00:42:31.000 In particular, so it's just I think it's an interesting thing how I Think he said about neural link.
00:42:40.000 Yeah.
00:42:40.000 Yeah, so neural link is I mean, it's a pretty fascinating tool and if it's used properly I think it would really help people who are disabled Okay, fascinating.
00:42:49.000 Right, right.
00:42:50.000 So one of the things it can help do is people who have spinal injuries, it can help connect their brain to other parts of the body.
00:42:55.000 And Bill Gates is trying to cure different diseases in Africa with vaccines.
00:42:59.000 Sure, sure, sure.
00:42:59.000 So that's why this is a moot point.
00:43:01.000 My question is, what is Elon Musk, is he going to force the chip into people's brains?
00:43:04.000 Well, offering up a service that you don't like and don't think is creepy is bad.
00:43:08.000 We can criticize it, people who do bad things.
00:43:10.000 But the question here is around freedom.
00:43:14.000 Bill Gates has called for rescinding freedoms.
00:43:16.000 Saying, how is Elon going to stop misinformation?
00:43:19.000 You can't do this!
00:43:20.000 He said, we need less people.
00:43:22.000 Bill Gates said that.
00:43:23.000 And Elon Musk has said, we actually need more people to sustain the planet.
00:43:26.000 And people should have freedom of speech.
00:43:28.000 Now, the things they work on, we can criticize.
00:43:31.000 But when we're specifically talking about Elon and things we like, it's for the things we like.
00:43:35.000 And when we criticize him, it's for the things we don't like.
00:43:37.000 And the end result, I believe, is Supporting freedom of speech and defending the rights of humans, or saying people are good and we need more of them, will probably create a better outcome in the long run, no matter what he works on in terms of Neuralink.
00:43:50.000 Bill Gates saying the opposite is darkness, that will lead us on a very dark path of death and suffering.
00:43:57.000 Yeah, I actually totally agree with that.
00:43:59.000 And I do, I do like this idea that we need more people because we need people to support the people that already exist and we need to create more resources.
00:44:10.000 And human beings are the best resource the planet has.
00:44:13.000 I don't completely agree that, you know, we've talked about overpopulation and there are a lot of people who say, actually, let me try and find Google Earth.
00:44:23.000 There are a lot of people who say that we're not overpopulated.
00:44:29.000 That's an opinion I think you guys have, right?
00:44:31.000 Have you ever looked at a map of the United States?
00:44:33.000 Yes.
00:44:34.000 Have you ever actually looked down at the level of development in North America?
00:44:39.000 It's only really popping on the coasts.
00:44:42.000 No, no, no, the entirety, everything.
00:44:45.000 When you look at, pull up, we've got Google Earth here.
00:44:47.000 When you say development, I mean like when you see pictures of at night, you see where the lights are.
00:44:51.000 Humans altering terrain, doesn't matter where the lights are.
00:44:53.000 Grab Illinois for instance, and when you zoom in, basically the entirety of the state has been developed.
00:44:58.000 There's some pockets of trees in some state parks, but you can just go straight through the state in any direction, and every little square is human development.
00:45:08.000 Why is that bad?
00:45:09.000 So I'm not saying that's bad, but I'm certainly saying when the entirety of Illinois or other states are completely developed, overpopulation is something that I think we should discuss or entertain.
00:45:21.000 Well, shouldn't we then people maybe should move to other places?
00:45:24.000 It's not about moving.
00:45:26.000 They don't live there.
00:45:27.000 We've taken the land and we've cut it and developed it to produce a certain thing.
00:45:32.000 So perhaps we can say maybe we're not overpopulated, but we're overproducing.
00:45:38.000 We are utilizing massive swaths of millions of acres or whatever to produce all this food and all these resources that we're consuming like crazy.
00:45:50.000 Maybe if humans consumed less, we might not have to worry about overdevelopment.
00:45:54.000 We're shipping in fertilizer from Europe.
00:45:57.000 Norman Borlaug has increased crop yield, but nutrient density has diminished substantially.
00:46:02.000 So I think, as much as I respect Elon Musk saying things like more people is better than less people, because when you say less people, really bad things happen.
00:46:11.000 I think we should try and make sure we're having a legitimate conversation.
00:46:13.000 Maybe I'm wrong, but I can point to a few things that I think at least would need to be questioned, like the bug population collapses, the dead zones in the ocean, fishery collapse, and mass pollution.
00:46:26.000 Maybe it's not overpopulation.
00:46:28.000 You know, we talked with Michael Malz about this.
00:46:29.000 It may be overpollution or overdevelopment or something.
00:46:33.000 Exactly.
00:46:33.000 So I think you hit the nail on the head with that last statement.
00:46:36.000 My issue with the idea of this being an overpopulation issue, framing the narrative that way, is that you are, with that framing, indicating what the solution has to be in your mind, so it's circular.
00:46:46.000 If you say we have an overpopulation problem, then what you're effectively saying is the solution is for there to be less people.
00:46:53.000 Right.
00:46:54.000 But if you point out the way you did, that there are issues such as, you know, insect populations declining, if that's the case, or pollution, then we ask the question, how can we deal with these problems?
00:47:06.000 And there's no reason to believe the solution is to get rid of people or have less people.
00:47:09.000 I agree with that 100%.
00:47:10.000 I think the solution is actually better agricultural technology and development.
00:47:16.000 I believe it is culture.
00:47:18.000 I think the United States has cultural problems.
00:47:20.000 I think we all agree with that.
00:47:21.000 I think we have a culture of gluttony instead of responsibility.
00:47:25.000 Amen.
00:47:25.000 That is a problem.
00:47:26.000 Absolutely.
00:47:27.000 So you have people who are morbidly obese, and instead of being like, maybe I should consume less, they're like, this is fine, actually.
00:47:33.000 Let's get on the cover of a magazine and tell everyone else to live this way, too.
00:47:37.000 I think we have a parenting problem as well because I think that parents don't teach their children to be responsible either for themselves or for others and I think that that is a key thing to do.
00:47:46.000 Like children, you know, stop worrying about what college your kids are going to go to or what career they're going to have and instead teach your kids to grow up to be kind, responsible people who can take care of themselves and the people that they love.
00:48:01.000 And who also want to.
00:48:02.000 I think that's what's so insidious.
00:48:04.000 And find joy in it.
00:48:05.000 Find joy in it.
00:48:06.000 Yeah.
00:48:07.000 Yeah, I mean, I saw a post not long ago, and you see a lot of this from people saying things like, you know, so much of our life is dedicated to work.
00:48:15.000 And I do believe that at some point people can be overworked 100%, and that's a problem.
00:48:22.000 They were saying things along the lines of, you know, the only thing meaningful about my life is when I'm off work.
00:48:27.000 And I think a lot of that is, firstly, an issue with the kinds of jobs people have now.
00:48:31.000 There's a good argument to be made for that.
00:48:33.000 But also that no one finds any value in the service of others, and people don't take any pride in doing things that make other people's lives easier.
00:48:43.000 But the other thing too is that we have completely diminished the value of just doing work.
00:48:47.000 Yeah.
00:48:47.000 Right?
00:48:48.000 I mean, if there's a job worth doing, and this is cliche, but there's a reason it's cliche, if there's a job worth doing, it's worth doing as well as you possibly can.
00:48:56.000 You know, there was recently, I forget what it was, but sometimes there'll be like an article at work and I'm going to be writing it.
00:49:02.000 at Postmillennial and sometimes I think like you know I don't really feel like writing this and then I think okay if you don't feel like writing it clearly you're missing something clearly you're missing some aspect of this story go figure it out do some research investigate it find out the interesting part of it and then write it and whenever that happens oddly those end up being my best pieces the ones where I'm not sure at first and I'm just kind of like and then I dig into it and I'm like oh that's actually fascinating and now I have a great piece We were talking about transitions a moment ago, so I wanted to hold off because we have a story here, actually.
00:49:35.000 This is a tweet from Colin Wright, good friend of the show, and it's actually just a repost of an Instagram post from a female amateur skateboarder.
00:49:43.000 He says, Female skateboarder Taylor Silverman is speaking out after placing second to a male competitor who identifies as a woman at the Red Bull Cornerstone contest.
00:49:52.000 Silverman and other female skateboarders were robbed of their achievements and prize money that was meant for women.
00:49:58.000 In the post made on Instagram, Taylor Silverman said, My name is Taylor Silverman.
00:50:02.000 I am a female athlete.
00:50:03.000 I have been skateboarding for 11 years and competing for several years.
00:50:07.000 I have been in three different contests with trans women, two of which I placed second and the last contest series I did for Red Bull, I placed second.
00:50:15.000 The trans competitor who won took $1,000 in the qualifiers, $3,000 in finals, and $1,000 in best trick.
00:50:18.000 This totaled $5,000.
00:50:19.000 $3,000 in finals and $1,000 in best trick. This totaled $5,000.
00:50:24.000 Of the prize money meant for female athletes.
00:50:27.000 I took $1,000 in qualifiers in 1750 for second place, so $2,750 in total. The girl who took third received $750. The
00:50:36.000 girl who deserved a thousand for best trick took nothing along with whoever would have placed third. I deserved to
00:50:43.000 place first, be acknowledged for my win, and get paid.
00:50:46.000 I reached out to Red Bull and was ignored. I am sick of being bullied into silence.
00:50:51.000 In the next post, Taylor Silverman posted the email sent to Red Bull, saying, If not, hopefully you can put me in contact with the correct person.
00:51:00.000 to express my concerns about what occurred at the Red Bull Cornerstone contest
00:51:03.000 with the transgender competitor in the women's division.
00:51:06.000 Perhaps that is you.
00:51:07.000 If not, hopefully you can put me in contact with the correct person.
00:51:10.000 A biological man with a clear advantage won the women's division,
00:51:13.000 best trick, and also multiple qualifiers.
00:51:16.000 This took away the opportunity that was meant for women to place and earn money.
00:51:20.000 What happened was unfair, and at the time, I was too uncomfortable to speak up.
00:51:25.000 I understand that in today's society even some women think this is acceptable, but I believe in doing the right thing, even if it's not the popular thing.
00:51:31.000 I now realize it's really important for me to speak up, and I'd like to schedule a time to talk.
00:51:37.000 So I have announced that, uh, I got my math wrong, but, um, I have announced, I said Tim Cass will gladly cover the difference and grant Taylor Silverman the $2,250 difference lost to placing behind a male athlete.
00:51:50.000 We will also be willing to cover the total lost revenue for the female athletes who would have placed higher were it not for the male athlete.
00:51:56.000 Now, she didn't lose $2,250.
00:51:59.000 She lost $1,250 because she didn't win best trick.
00:52:01.000 Someone else, I guess you said, would have.
00:52:03.000 And so some people have asked me, they said, you know, Tim, you said that the NCAA women, you know, it's too bad for them or whatever.
00:52:12.000 I was like, no, no, no, hold on.
00:52:13.000 What I said was... You mean the swimming?
00:52:15.000 The swimming.
00:52:16.000 I said, they are not complaining about it.
00:52:18.000 How can I speak up for them if they're not speaking out for themselves?
00:52:22.000 Taylor Silverman spoke up for herself, said, I don't believe this is fair, and I believe that's deserving of support.
00:52:30.000 And also, totally biased.
00:52:32.000 I've been skateboarding my whole life.
00:52:34.000 I had worked with the organization briefly, mind you, that actually got equal pay for women at the X Games.
00:52:39.000 We've talked about it quite a bit.
00:52:41.000 When I saw this, knowing what I know from skateboarding for 23 years, knowing about the physical elements, knowing about the physics, Taylor Silverman is absolutely correct, and let me make this point before we get into the bigger picture.
00:52:57.000 Some people have said, in response to me, we had our good friend the Amazing Atheist said women should compete in the women's division.
00:53:03.000 I responded to Colin Wright saying that men, males, have a higher center of gravity.
00:53:08.000 What this means is that from a standing position, a man can ollie higher, a male can ollie higher than a female.
00:53:15.000 Females carry the center of gravity lower, which is better for balance in a lot of ways, but means their ollie height, their jump height, will be lower.
00:53:21.000 There are very clear differences and advantages that males will have regardless of hormone replacement therapy.
00:53:28.000 Skateboarding is not a muscle-based sport where it's like the stronger you are, the better you can be.
00:53:32.000 There's aggression, there's grit, like your willingness to take risks, and it's very much control.
00:53:40.000 If you have a higher center of gravity, you're going to be able to clear higher obstacles.
00:53:45.000 Women also have what's called a more pronounced Q angle.
00:53:48.000 That's the quadricep angle.
00:53:49.000 Meaning, because of the wide hips, the femur and the quadriceps come at a harsher angle than a male would, regardless of hormone replacement therapy.
00:53:57.000 This means that biological females competing at any stage are gonna be more prone to leg injuries, knee injuries, ankle injuries.
00:54:04.000 A clear advantage for male athletes, regardless of if they're transitioning or not.
00:54:08.000 So this one, to me, I think needs, you know, I'm biased, obviously.
00:54:12.000 But also, the story's gone viral.
00:54:15.000 Everybody's talking about it.
00:54:17.000 I think it's important to talk about, and I think it's important that people like Taylor Silverman are speaking out and saying, you know, I think this is not fair.
00:54:23.000 Now, the crazy element is her post on Instagram has something like, last I checked, 11,000 comments.
00:54:29.000 Yeah, it's huge.
00:54:30.000 The anti-Semitism, because Taylor Silverman's Jewish.
00:54:34.000 Crazy, crazy.
00:54:36.000 And she has a Star of David in her.
00:54:38.000 Right, and these are the leftists who hate Israel, who believe in these weird conspiracy theories, like the Farrakhan stuff, and are now going after her and attacking her for being Jewish, simply because she said this is money that was meant for female athletes.
00:54:52.000 Yeah, I mean, look, the left doesn't care about these things that they claim to when they talk about, like, racism, sexism, homophobia.
00:54:58.000 In fact, despite their vitriol, they don't even really care about the transgender issue.
00:55:02.000 They just try to use these labels to accuse anyone they think it would be useful to get out of the public discussion.
00:55:10.000 And when it comes to their attacks on other people, they're almost always willing to resort to these labels, but it's never talked about, right?
00:55:17.000 So it's an instance of...
00:55:19.000 I think they also wanted to figure out how to make sure that white men could be qualified as diversity hires.
00:55:22.000 about ethnicity like slurs and then saying we are only going to prosecute
00:55:28.000 one group of people for doing this so people left can get away with it like
00:55:32.000 crazy. I think they also wanted to figure out how to make sure that white men
00:55:36.000 could be qualified as diversity hires. I think stories like these are the
00:55:42.000 biggest threat to so-called trans rights because at this point when you get
00:55:46.000 into the sports and physically comparing the two it's unavoidable so I know for a
00:55:50.000 A lot of people, they think, live and let live.
00:55:52.000 If somebody's above 18, let them go through the process.
00:55:55.000 If they want to get these plastic surgeries to make them look like the opposite sex, fine.
00:55:59.000 It's not hurting anybody.
00:56:00.000 But then once you get down to something like a competition where the differences are obvious, we're going to be seeing more and more cases like this.
00:56:08.000 Like Leah Thomas, for example.
00:56:09.000 Yeah, and women's rights activists know about this.
00:56:12.000 Women's rights activists can clearly see Um, that showing the unfairness of men competing against women in women's sports could be the turning point needed.
00:56:22.000 I want to give a shout out real quick to Taylor Silverman.
00:56:25.000 You can follow her on Instagram, TaylorMaySilverman.
00:56:28.000 And on Twitter, I believe her Twitter is TMSilverman.
00:56:33.000 But specifically because she posted on Instagram this.
00:56:36.000 Truth sounds like hate to those who hate the truth.
00:56:40.000 Many people in her position didn't stand, like for the Lee Thomas, there was no woman who actually stood up so he could commend her.
00:56:47.000 Only the one who lost.
00:56:48.000 Yeah, after she, yeah.
00:56:49.000 So this is another interesting thing.
00:56:51.000 Taylor spoke up, I believe it's been a few months since the event.
00:56:55.000 And I actually talked to her, we're maybe working something out, some kind of, you know, we'll do an interview or maybe.
00:57:01.000 But it's been a few months actually since the contest and I looked at her record.
00:57:05.000 She's somebody who actually won.
00:57:06.000 Actually got cash.
00:57:08.000 She got second place.
00:57:09.000 You know, she qualifies.
00:57:10.000 She's winning.
00:57:11.000 When it came to the NCAA swim meet, the only person who spoke up was the one who got bumped.
00:57:15.000 Like in 8th place or whatever it was?
00:57:17.000 Yeah, it was like, what was it?
00:57:18.000 17th or something?
00:57:19.000 16th place or something?
00:57:19.000 By the way, I made a decision.
00:57:21.000 And it wasn't even her.
00:57:21.000 It was actually her teammate who spoke up on her behalf.
00:57:24.000 Oh, wow.
00:57:25.000 I am going to start calling all of the people who want men dressed as women to compete in women's sports, men's rights activists.
00:57:31.000 They are men's rights activists.
00:57:33.000 If you say that a trans woman should be able to compete in women's sports, you are an MRA.
00:57:38.000 And you will be adopting the language of radical feminists when you do it.
00:57:42.000 And bravo, bravo, bravo, Seamus.
00:57:44.000 Look, when women talk, I listen.
00:57:47.000 Didn't we talk to Vosh about that?
00:57:48.000 I don't know.
00:57:49.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure we talked about men's rights activism.
00:57:52.000 I said, I said, I said, I don't, I don't care for using the word men or women.
00:57:54.000 I'll just say male.
00:57:55.000 So when I, when I tweeted this, we had, uh, uh, was T.J.
00:57:58.000 Kirk is his name, right?
00:57:59.000 The Amazing Atheist?
00:58:00.000 Yeah, T.J.
00:58:01.000 Kirk.
00:58:01.000 He said, uh, women should compete in the women's division.
00:58:04.000 And then I, it's, it's, it's absurd to me that you're having a semantic argument.
00:58:09.000 For what reason did we create women's division sports?
00:58:12.000 Was it because sometimes people wear dresses?
00:58:15.000 No, it's because there are biological differences to a great degree, 90% of the time, to a great degree, between males and females.
00:58:23.000 And the colloquial understanding in human society was that man and woman meant male and female.
00:58:28.000 In fact, to most people today, it still does.
00:58:31.000 So when someone says, a trans woman is a woman, therefore should compete in the women's division, it's like, We didn't create the women's division based on the clothing you wear.
00:58:40.000 No.
00:58:41.000 We didn't create the women's division based on how you felt that day.
00:58:44.000 Like, oh, today I've decided I'm- I mean, what if someone's genderfluid?
00:58:47.000 And I'm serious.
00:58:48.000 That's not just like a dunk on the lips.
00:58:49.000 What if someone is genderfluid?
00:58:50.000 On the day they feel like a woman, do they compete in the women's division?
00:58:54.000 The answer would be yes.
00:58:55.000 There is actually a CEO in the UK who... Makes 70 cents less per dollar when they identify as a woman that day?
00:59:03.000 No, no.
00:59:03.000 In fact, I believe it's a CEO who is gender fluid and some days wears pencil skirts and some days wears trousers and was honored as like, you know, best woman CEO or something like that.
00:59:19.000 So playing both sides for the day when he was in the pencil skirt one of the
00:59:24.000 difficulties for anyone to speak up is that they're speaking out against people they know and that's a big
00:59:30.000 component that I think a lot of People should understand so I know many pro skateboarders
00:59:34.000 For years. I have been told by many pro skateboarders. They're upset with what's happening
00:59:39.000 They're upset with politics.
00:59:41.000 Many secretly support Trump.
00:59:42.000 And they all say, but I cannot risk my livelihood to speak out.
00:59:47.000 And so, exactly.
00:59:50.000 Don't come to me.
00:59:50.000 But I will say, I wanted to add something to this.
00:59:53.000 Uh, there is an issue at play here, and it is a pro skateboarder that I have met and skated with on a couple occasions, who's friends with people I know, named Leo Baker.
01:00:02.000 Uh, Leo Baker is a non-binary, I believe.
01:00:06.000 Formerly, I believe, trans man, and before that was a top female athlete named Lacey Baker.
01:00:13.000 And I mean no disrespect, but I have questions.
01:00:17.000 And that question is, when Leo was competing as a female in the women's division as Lacey Baker and winning, Lacey transitions into Leo, says that they're trans, but continues to compete against women.
01:00:34.000 So my problem is, who is coming out and saying that Taylor Silverman is wrong, When she says this, why is it that a biological male can say that they now identify as a woman and compete against women, but a biological female can say I am now trans but still compete against women?
01:00:52.000 It's because everyone knows that it's fake.
01:00:54.000 Everyone is aware of the lie and we're supposed to just Deal with the fact that we know it's a lie and say something that is untrue, which is exactly what happens, which is literally what happens in the book.
01:01:05.000 1984 is that you're supposed to know that, you know, you, you believe you believe the truth and you speak the lie.
01:01:12.000 And that is the most dangerous aspect of this.
01:01:15.000 What I want to add to, sorry, just because, um, when I saw this story, I saw Colin Wright's tweet that Taylor spoke out.
01:01:26.000 Look, Taylor is not somebody who is a prominent pro skateboarder with millions of followers who can risk speaking out and be rich.
01:01:35.000 These pro skateboarders who tell me they can't speak out, I'm like, you own how many houses?
01:01:40.000 You have how many followers?
01:01:41.000 You'd lose half of them, you'd still be rich.
01:01:43.000 Or at the very least, you'd be middle class.
01:01:46.000 Well, J.K.
01:01:47.000 Rowling speaks out.
01:01:48.000 She's spoken.
01:01:49.000 She's said that she has lost opportunities.
01:01:51.000 She keeps speaking out.
01:01:52.000 She keeps, you know, being active for women's rights and I have the utmost respect for that.
01:01:57.000 I have the utmost respect for Ms.
01:01:59.000 Silverman here and I hope that, you know, I hope that you guys work out a great situation and that she's able to be, you know, continue being successful in her chosen path.
01:02:08.000 We all know that it's unreasonable.
01:02:10.000 When we saw Leah Thomas swimming in the pool against women, we could all see that it was completely a total lie that this person should be competing against these much shorter, much smaller, much less strong women.
01:02:24.000 And we were just supposed to go along with it anyway.
01:02:25.000 And people did.
01:02:26.000 And it's shocking to see that.
01:02:29.000 And I think that the more this happens and the more we see women athletes start to speak out, The more, hopefully, the tide will shift on this.
01:02:37.000 And, you know, Beth Stelzer, who does Save Women Sports, who's a really fascinating person, who saw this happen in weightlifting, you know, she's been fierce in fighting on this.
01:02:46.000 I think the key thing you said there is women, and it needs to come from women.
01:02:50.000 And that's why I think Taylor May is so commendable here.
01:02:52.000 It's great.
01:02:52.000 Because if it doesn't come from women, I mean, men could bark about this all they want, but it's women who are the victims and are missing the opportunities because of this.
01:02:59.000 So they, unfortunately, in our society, need to be the most vocal about it, because people don't like Latino men.
01:03:04.000 So I'll address one.
01:03:05.000 We had a super chat, and they're saying that I complained that the swimmers didn't speak up until after they had lost.
01:03:10.000 So let's break this down.
01:03:11.000 First, is Tim biased?
01:03:13.000 Yes, obviously.
01:03:14.000 I'm a skateboarder.
01:03:15.000 I've been skateboarding for 23 years.
01:03:17.000 So, of course, I see this story, and I'm like, oh, harumph!
01:03:19.000 You know, how dare they?
01:03:20.000 But there is a difference.
01:03:21.000 With the NCAA, they had been consistently competing.
01:03:23.000 They knew it was happening.
01:03:24.000 They knew it was going to happen.
01:03:25.000 They had swam more than one time.
01:03:27.000 There were multiple races.
01:03:28.000 My understanding of this story, having dug into it and spoken with some people involved, when you go to a skateboarding contest, you don't know who you're competing against.
01:03:37.000 They say, hey, there's going to be a contest in this place at this time.
01:03:40.000 You go to a local qualifier, then you show up and all of a sudden you see who you're competing against.
01:03:45.000 My understanding is that this is not an instance that's exactly the same, where this person knew, I'm going to fly to this place and compete in this contest against a trans person.
01:03:57.000 It was, they showed up and said, Oh, really?
01:04:01.000 Now, fair criticism.
01:04:03.000 It did take Taylor a few months to speak out.
01:04:06.000 And I think, you know, you need to speak out sooner than that.
01:04:10.000 But that's fine.
01:04:10.000 I mean, look, man, I can be angry and critical.
01:04:14.000 And I think the fact that she was second place, won cash, could have walked away with the cash, not as much cash as she wanted, but instead she's like, no, no, no, no, I've got to say something about this.
01:04:23.000 Because the woman who got bumped out of the bracket isn't speaking up.
01:04:27.000 Like with the NCAA, the woman who got bumped from the bracket was the one who spoke out.
01:04:30.000 And I said, you're only speaking out because you lost the money?
01:04:34.000 Well, in this instance, the person who got bumped didn't speak out, and the person who did get the money is the one speaking out.
01:04:37.000 And I'm like, okay.
01:04:39.000 But either way, either way.
01:04:41.000 Um, I gotta say, I love that they, uh, I love that they came for your sport and you were just like, no, that's it.
01:04:47.000 I love it.
01:04:49.000 I love it for swimming.
01:04:50.000 And I said nothing because I do not swim.
01:04:53.000 I think there's a fair element there.
01:04:55.000 Absolutely.
01:04:55.000 I think.
01:04:56.000 I think that's great.
01:04:57.000 I think that's great.
01:04:58.000 You know, when you see it happen in your own stuff, I think it really makes a big difference.
01:05:02.000 I saw this happen in theater when suddenly grants that were, because you know there were grants like women's plays, only women should submit plays for this and you know proposals and whatever.
01:05:13.000 And then the granting opportunities and the opportunities that had been specifically for women were suddenly for women or self-identified women.
01:05:22.000 And I was like, what's this about?
01:05:23.000 This is not reasonable.
01:05:25.000 You know, this is not for playwrights who are men in dresses.
01:05:30.000 This is supposed to be for women playwrights.
01:05:32.000 And everything changed.
01:05:35.000 Everything changed very quickly.
01:05:36.000 And that's why, you know, that's in part why I started speaking out about this, because I found that so infuriating and stupid.
01:05:42.000 It is infuriating, and it's not as if anyone could change the definition of woman.
01:05:48.000 Men and women are different.
01:05:50.000 But I do find it comical that women were never asked.
01:05:53.000 No, because only men get tested.
01:05:54.000 They were literally never asked.
01:05:56.000 Dude started wearing dresses and said, yeah, we're women!
01:06:00.000 Do you have opinions about that?
01:06:02.000 Yes.
01:06:02.000 No, you're not allowed to.
01:06:03.000 You're not allowed.
01:06:04.000 Imagine a situation.
01:06:06.000 There was no vote.
01:06:07.000 There was no policy.
01:06:07.000 There was no committee.
01:06:08.000 Imagine a situation where a six-foot-tall man in a dress with heels looks down at you and says, I'm a woman.
01:06:16.000 I'm a woman.
01:06:17.000 Are you going to say otherwise?
01:06:18.000 You're like, yeah, no, you're a woman.
01:06:20.000 Oh, sure.
01:06:20.000 Okay.
01:06:21.000 Don't hurt me, Mr. Crazy Man.
01:06:23.000 We try to be respectful to people who are, you know, we try to be respectful.
01:06:28.000 As I mentioned often, even Ben Shapiro said he would use preferred pronouns in a public setting because it's just easier, though he doesn't agree with it, and wouldn't use it in an academic or journalistic setting.
01:06:38.000 We are the tolerant.
01:06:42.000 We say, I may not like it, but, you know, I'm in my own business, you know, you do your thing.
01:06:46.000 And that's how gay marriage comes to pass.
01:06:47.000 We're like, okay, look, you're gonna get your tax benefits, you can go into your home, you can do your thing.
01:06:52.000 And then, it's funny because there's that meme from 2000 and, was it 2008, 12 or something?
01:06:58.000 Yeah, it was like, what happens if gay marriage becomes legalized?
01:07:01.000 And it's like, World War III will happen, people will start teaching kids about gay sex, and it's like, And here we are.
01:07:07.000 Those things are happening.
01:07:08.000 That's what's going down.
01:07:10.000 Let's jump to the story though from the AP.
01:07:13.000 U.S.
01:07:13.000 soccer equalizes pay in milestone with women and men.
01:07:17.000 They say the U.S.
01:07:18.000 Soccer Federation reached a milestone agreement to pay its men and women teams equally, making the American national governing body the first in the sport to promise both sexes matching money.
01:07:26.000 Oh boy.
01:07:27.000 So this is why I think this is crazy.
01:07:29.000 Lydia.
01:07:29.000 They have different pay structures.
01:07:31.000 They're different leagues.
01:07:32.000 It would be like, imagine if Burger King announced that they were going to be paying McDonald's employees the same rates.
01:07:37.000 So my question is... Are they bringing the men up or the women down?
01:07:40.000 Or the reverse?
01:07:41.000 They cut the men's salaries.
01:07:42.000 Yeah, it's just like, yeah, all right, we're cutting funds.
01:07:44.000 But so, are they taking funds that were generated by the men's division and giving them to the women's division?
01:07:51.000 Because the women's division can't make enough to pay them what they pay the men.
01:07:55.000 Yes, I think that's what it is.
01:07:56.000 So it says, U.S.
01:07:57.000 women and men's team agree historic deal to share World Cup prize money.
01:08:04.000 That is very insulting to the people who are generating that revenue.
01:08:08.000 So I think the AP was wrong.
01:08:10.000 What the story is, at least from the Guardian, is that they're going to share each other's prize money with each other.
01:08:15.000 So are they saying that the women should be dependent upon men's money?
01:08:17.000 I find that interesting.
01:08:19.000 So the men are going to be giving up... Are men providers?
01:08:22.000 I guess so.
01:08:23.000 The men are going to give up large, you know, millions upon millions and the female athletes are going to give up hundreds of thousands.
01:08:29.000 So why would men play for the U.S.
01:08:32.000 team?
01:08:32.000 Why wouldn't they just go play in Europe and make a lot of money and not play on the national team at all?
01:08:37.000 The interesting part about this is that the men's team is actually trash relative to other men's soccer teams, and our female soccer team is one of the best in the world, but our men's is bad.
01:08:47.000 But still, men's soccer generates more money.
01:08:50.000 But it's number one, so if we're America first right now, then we should be rooting for our women's team.
01:08:54.000 Yeah, root for them, but they're still generating less money, so why should they get more?
01:08:58.000 Yeah, we should support them too.
01:09:00.000 I did go to the parade when they won though in New York City.
01:09:02.000 and i don't know if you're happy and i think a lot like where is it
01:09:06.000 why don't you die in your hair purple just said that i can wrap it up to the
01:09:10.000 actor is going on in new york city well there's a great yet when they won
01:09:14.000 the few years ago the people who want to support a pretty the people who want to
01:09:17.000 support the way it's really they can watch People can get invested in this without having to take from the men's team.
01:09:23.000 And it's funny because you mentioned the men's team is not that good.
01:09:26.000 I don't follow sports, but I've heard that.
01:09:28.000 But it's not as if anyone's saying, well, you know, we should be giving the trophies that the women win to the men's team because we just like men more.
01:09:36.000 What we're saying is if a group of people earn a certain amount of money, they should get that amount of money.
01:09:41.000 And if a group of people earns less than that, you don't redistribute it to make them feel better.
01:09:45.000 Well, it's a socialist soccer team.
01:09:46.000 Especially when they're making money playing sports.
01:09:48.000 They have a dream job.
01:09:49.000 They're an athlete.
01:09:49.000 You do when you're a communist.
01:09:51.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:09:51.000 Right.
01:09:51.000 It's a socialist soccer team.
01:09:53.000 Yeah.
01:09:53.000 Yeah.
01:09:54.000 You know, it's funny, it's like... Which makes sense because it is a European sport, right?
01:09:57.000 No one's... South American.
01:09:58.000 I love when the blue checkies journalists were like, the women actually win and the men don't, but the men are getting paid more money and it's like the men negotiate a different pay structure.
01:10:09.000 That was literally it.
01:10:10.000 Well, there's also different audiences.
01:10:11.000 There were bonuses or guarantees and the women wanted guarantees and the men wanted bonuses or something.
01:10:16.000 So it's like the men got bonus money and made money and the women didn't or something.
01:10:20.000 But also, yeah, it's just like... Imagine someone working at McDonald's.
01:10:24.000 And they're like, this McDonald's makes a million dollars per month.
01:10:27.000 And then across the street is a Burger King that's only making like $500,000 per month.
01:10:30.000 So the Burger King employees get angry and go on strike and say it's not fair that McDonald's employees get paid more than us.
01:10:34.000 It's like, you're different businesses.
01:10:36.000 I get you both sell cheeseburgers, but you're different businesses.
01:10:40.000 So then they agree to share their salaries.
01:10:42.000 Like, okay, sure, I guess.
01:10:44.000 So yeah, that doesn't make any sense at all either.
01:10:46.000 So do like, if the men win, they have to give money to the women or something?
01:10:51.000 I think they're going to be less incentivized to win.
01:10:52.000 You're not making as much money.
01:10:54.000 The men's team is going to do even worse.
01:10:55.000 Less incentivized to play on this team.
01:10:57.000 So wait, hold on.
01:10:58.000 Well, you said the men's team is really bad.
01:11:00.000 So does that mean the men aren't going to win and aren't going to make money?
01:11:02.000 And so the women's team isn't going to end up making this money from the men anyway?
01:11:05.000 I think it's more people who just care.
01:11:08.000 The people supporting the women here, they're men's rights activists.
01:11:10.000 They think men should be getting alimony.
01:11:12.000 What if we got trans women to fill the women's league instead?
01:11:18.000 But they would have to... I guess we could, right?
01:11:21.000 I'm sorry, are they trying to exclude trans women from their space?
01:11:24.000 So the issue that I had with the... Well, the question is, are there any trans women on the women's soccer team?
01:11:30.000 We don't even know that.
01:11:31.000 And if there aren't, it's clearly bigotry.
01:11:33.000 Obviously.
01:11:34.000 Yeah.
01:11:35.000 Well, I mean, you know, the argument from the left on this is, again, you know, The Amazing Atheist tweeted at me that, you know, tall people are better at basketball.
01:11:42.000 We don't ban tall people.
01:11:44.000 And it's like, okay, so then for what reason don't we just like seek out only trans women
01:11:49.000 to play in the WNBA who are going to be taller or in women's soccer who are on average going
01:11:53.000 to be substantially taller and have more bone density and muscle mass.
01:11:59.000 The point I was bringing up with the skateboarding thing is that people like to mention strength.
01:12:04.000 You know, it's like in swimming, your strength matters.
01:12:07.000 Your strength and endurance matters.
01:12:09.000 And but it's a point.
01:12:10.000 It doesn't.
01:12:11.000 In skateboarding, it is control.
01:12:13.000 It is timing.
01:12:14.000 And the advantage of having a higher center of gravity, of having narrower hips, no matter
01:12:19.000 what you do or change, that's not going to have an impact.
01:12:23.000 I'm wondering if in these skate contests, I don't think they have any hormone requirement, like some sport leagues do, where it's like your testosterone has to be a certain level, because that wouldn't matter anyway.
01:12:34.000 In which case, my point is, Are we going to come to the point where if the argument is based on gender as a social construct and not sex, then someone who's literally a 6 foot 6, 250 pound muscular male could just be like, I'm a woman.
01:12:50.000 Like Zuby, right?
01:12:51.000 When Zuby did the deadlift and said he was a woman, why not?
01:12:55.000 That should be completely permissible.
01:12:57.000 Under their ideology. Yes. Yes. In which case the women's I gotta say why how about for women's soccer?
01:13:03.000 We should get a bunch of males and I'm not saying this disparagingly or or or as a gotcha
01:13:07.000 I think I think you're just being inclusive tim Well, no, no, but in all seriousness if the goal of the
01:13:12.000 team is to win money the goal of the team is to win contests The we want the brand to succeed and the coaches want the
01:13:18.000 best team possible Then they should have open tryouts
01:13:21.000 And just bring on the best possible people that there are And if the team ends up being 90% trans women,
01:13:28.000 We'll just, we'll win more.
01:13:29.000 Good.
01:13:30.000 Right?
01:13:30.000 I'm curious as to when we're going to see an actual big backlash from women on this actual issue as it becomes more common.
01:13:37.000 Because there aren't that many trans women in these sports yet.
01:13:42.000 But as we continue to age, you know, the youth, I think it's something like 20 to 30% of the youth nowadays considers themselves some form of LGBTQ.
01:13:50.000 Yeah.
01:13:50.000 Here's an issue though.
01:13:51.000 There's a, there's a lot of problems with early medicalization for trans identified youth.
01:13:59.000 And this was sort of interesting.
01:14:01.000 Recently, a mom reached out to me and hipped me to a talk that was given by Dr. Marcy Bowers at Duke University, who is trans and has performed some 2,000 trans surgeries.
01:14:18.000 A trans doctor performing the trans surgeries?
01:14:20.000 Right.
01:14:21.000 and has performed these surgeries on young people, has also prescribed the puberty blocking drugs, the Lupron, as well as the cross-sex hormones.
01:14:32.000 If a child goes on puberty blockers and then goes directly on to cross-sex hormones and does not go through natural puberty, they will never orgasm.
01:14:46.000 They will never have full sexual function.
01:14:49.000 Or the emotional.
01:14:50.000 Or the emotional aspect.
01:14:52.000 Additionally, if you're a little boy and you go on a puberty blocker and then you start taking estrogen, you will never have enough genital material to be converted into the wound that is then referred to as the neovagina.
01:15:07.000 That will also not work.
01:15:09.000 Additionally, if you are a young person and you start taking cross-sex hormones, you're going to have substantial problems with bone density.
01:15:18.000 Blood coagulation.
01:15:20.000 Yeah, blood coagulation, all of these things.
01:15:22.000 So the odds that you're going to be able to play sports are remarkably small because you're just not going to have the physical capability to do that.
01:15:31.000 So if a young man doesn't go through natural puberty, he's not going to be able to play against Megan Rapinoe.
01:15:39.000 Anyone who does that to a child belongs in jail.
01:15:41.000 I think that's happening in how many states now?
01:15:45.000 It's what is it, Florida?
01:15:47.000 I think Iowa, maybe Florida.
01:15:49.000 There was Iowa, Oklahoma, Texas.
01:15:53.000 I know there's a couple of states where it's illegal to do it.
01:15:58.000 They'll take the kids from the parents.
01:15:59.000 Right.
01:16:00.000 And then they actually ended up investigating.
01:16:02.000 It was Ken Paxton's office and it was actually inspired by Libs of TikTok, which Libs of TikTok, I talked to her about it and she was like, that was amazing.
01:16:11.000 Like I actually helped, you know.
01:16:14.000 But what was interesting is the attorney general's office then found themselves investigating a parent who worked at Texas Social Services for medically transitioning their child.
01:16:29.000 I think one of the great lies, one of the big lies among trans activists, obviously beyond that men can actually become women and women can actually become men, is that these puberty blockers have no consequences and that we have fully studied their unintended consequences.
01:16:44.000 We're right now giving puberty blockers that were supposed to be used to treat, I forgot what exact hormonal diseases, but we don't fully understand what these puberty blockers do when used in the case of gender dysphoria in children.
01:16:57.000 It's not completely reversible.
01:16:58.000 There haven't been studies.
01:16:59.000 There haven't been studies.
01:17:00.000 And it's not completely reversible at all.
01:17:03.000 It's not.
01:17:04.000 I mean to say there are consequences.
01:17:05.000 There's not any reason to believe that it's reversible.
01:17:07.000 There's like.
01:17:08.000 Yeah.
01:17:09.000 But this is the argument made to allow.
01:17:10.000 Yeah.
01:17:11.000 Because also.
01:17:13.000 Yeah, because also, once a child goes on those puberty blockers, Lupron, right, which is supposed to address precocious puberty, and then you take the child off.
01:17:21.000 But in cases of healthy children, you go on it, they put you on it, and then you immediately transition to cross-sex hormones.
01:17:28.000 So you don't, and most kids who go on the puberty blockers do go on to take the cross-sex hormones because they're already believing it.
01:17:36.000 So, it's not a pause button.
01:17:38.000 It's an initiation.
01:17:39.000 Yeah.
01:17:41.000 Yeah.
01:17:42.000 The thing is, you can't exactly tell when somebody is going on hormone blockers, so it's hard to visibly see how many people are doing it.
01:17:49.000 But what I do see, as somebody who's from New York City, Brooklyn specifically, one of the most trans parts of the city, is that double mastectomies are relatively common.
01:17:58.000 This isn't something that, like, you don't see or hear about from friends or friends or see people... You see it a bit.
01:18:04.000 Yeah, it's relatively common, and I think that too.
01:18:07.000 Convincing women that the right move or whatever you're dealing with, interpersonal women deal with a lot of issues mentally, going through puberty, etc.
01:18:16.000 But to convince them to get double mastectomies, to remove their breasts, again, I think is a form, is comparable to modern-day lobotomies.
01:18:24.000 And not just women, girls.
01:18:25.000 I mean, it happens to people who are underage.
01:18:28.000 It happens to girls.
01:18:31.000 If I may, just one thing.
01:18:32.000 They talk about how, you know, they tell kids if you're not comfortable in your own body then perhaps you're trans.
01:18:39.000 And I think it's important for people to realize that it's not really that normal to be comfortable in your own body.
01:18:45.000 Like, bodies are super uncomfortable.
01:18:48.000 Especially during puberty.
01:18:49.000 Especially during puberty.
01:18:51.000 Puberty sucks for everybody like it feels weird and yucky to have your body change.
01:18:55.000 I know personally like I was 18 before I realized that I should wear a bra and it was my it was my college roommate who was like you really need to do this and I was like ew gross I don't really want to be involved in this.
01:19:07.000 Oh you guys are all embarrassed that's really cute.
01:19:11.000 I mean, I never realized to wear a bra.
01:19:12.000 They never told me to.
01:19:15.000 I was horrified by being a grown woman.
01:19:18.000 I was like, this is really uncomfortable.
01:19:20.000 For a minute, it's called the bro.
01:19:22.000 You gotta wear it when you're like 50.
01:19:24.000 Right.
01:19:24.000 Isn't that, didn't Kramer do that on Seinfeld?
01:19:26.000 No, it was George's dad.
01:19:27.000 That's right.
01:19:28.000 No, he wanted the man-zeer.
01:19:30.000 The man-zeer.
01:19:31.000 But he had teamed up with Kramer.
01:19:32.000 Kramer wanted the bro.
01:19:33.000 That's right.
01:19:34.000 He's like, no!
01:19:35.000 And they were arguing about it.
01:19:37.000 The bro.
01:19:39.000 So, let's throw it back to eugenics in the early 1900s.
01:19:42.000 When we had Matt Bender on the show... I like that segue.
01:19:46.000 Well, it's because it's the idea that progressives aren't always right.
01:19:49.000 They think they are, they think they always win, but that's not true.
01:19:51.000 Seamus made a good point.
01:19:52.000 He said, every instance in US history where someone has tried to deny personhood to another group of people, they've always lost.
01:20:01.000 Something like that, right?
01:20:02.000 Yeah, and no group of people who has ever made the distinction between human and person and said it's technically a human but not a person has ever been on the right side of history when we examine the situation later.
01:20:11.000 So you look back at eugenics and we've done away with that.
01:20:15.000 It's like a bad idea.
01:20:15.000 Nobody likes that.
01:20:17.000 Yet the tenets of it still exist.
01:20:20.000 When we had Matt Bender on the show, he kept saying over and over again, if a baby was born with deformity of abnormality, you wouldn't be in favor of ending its life.
01:20:29.000 And I'm like, no.
01:20:30.000 And he was shocked by that.
01:20:31.000 And I'm like, I'm not into eugenics!
01:20:34.000 If a human being is born different, we want it to try and live.
01:20:39.000 What an ableist view that is, that you should abort disabled children.
01:20:43.000 Here's the issue.
01:20:44.000 Genetic diversity is important to the health of any species.
01:20:46.000 This is basic science.
01:20:48.000 It's observable.
01:20:50.000 If we start saying, these traits are undesirable, where does it end?
01:20:54.000 And I'm not gonna, oh, slippery slope.
01:20:55.000 No, no, quite literally, you have parents being like, oh, he's got a heart issue, perhaps, and they're gonna look at the DNA and they're gonna say, When he's in his 30s, he may experience this, so why don't you try again?
01:21:05.000 Okay.
01:21:06.000 And then you're gonna move the needle more and more.
01:21:09.000 Until at what point are you arguing that it's just designer babies?
01:21:14.000 And at what point do you end up with a disease that primarily affects people with a specific gene, you know, or specific cell receptor?
01:21:22.000 And then all of a sudden it's like, we didn't realize that homogenizing the gene pool was gonna result in population collapse, but here we are.
01:21:29.000 So I'm just like, You don't do that.
01:21:32.000 Well, Tim, the left has actually disproven the slippery slope.
01:21:36.000 They showed us it's actually just a cliff.
01:21:38.000 I mean, you go right over instantly.
01:21:40.000 We mentioned aborting for whatever disabilities.
01:21:44.000 I'm trying to look up the exact source because I remember this in the past, but what I'm reading right now from The Atlantic is that in Denmark, they actually do tests to see if the child does have Down syndrome.
01:21:55.000 According to what I'm reading, it says nearly all expecting mothers choose to take the test.
01:21:59.000 Of those who get a Down syndrome diagnosis, more than 95% choose to abort.
01:22:03.000 So this isn't just some fantasy tale scenario that we're talking about.
01:22:08.000 This is actually happening.
01:22:09.000 The thing too is you get to decide, right?
01:22:13.000 They have all of these, because I was older when I had my son.
01:22:16.000 I was like 35 when I was pregnant.
01:22:18.000 And there's all these tests that they can give you that give you like, if he's gonna have whatever,
01:22:25.000 there's something about Xs, I don't really know.
01:22:27.000 But there were a ton of them.
01:22:28.000 And they were like, oh, you need to take this and this and this.
01:22:31.000 And I was like, why?
01:22:32.000 And they were like, you know, because it'll tell you if your child has a deformity.
01:22:34.000 And I was like, I'm good.
01:22:37.000 Don't care.
01:22:38.000 I don't need any of that.
01:22:39.000 I think there is an argument to be made about, I'm not saying abort children who have Down syndrome, but there is some version of a quality of life argument.
01:22:47.000 But I do think the argument starts to become, is where do you draw the line to where you abort a child?
01:22:53.000 I'm not saying it's okay or not okay for Down syndrome, but you know, if we keep moving the needle or the line, it's like, well, if your kid has diabetes, you know, do we potentially want to abort him because of that?
01:23:02.000 What if they're short?
01:23:04.000 What if they're short?
01:23:04.000 What if they're going to have male pattern baldness?
01:23:08.000 I hear two out of five men do.
01:23:11.000 Or like a Roman ad.
01:23:13.000 It would be the end of so many great and very important people.
01:23:18.000 When all the parents would have to do is bestow a beanie upon them.
01:23:21.000 I gotta say, I like a beanie.
01:23:24.000 Lydia pulled up the story where it talks about, what is this, Prader-Willi syndrome.
01:23:29.000 And it says, studies have found its positive results are incorrect more than 90% of the time.
01:23:32.000 Insanely high numbers.
01:23:34.000 Yes, I read about this.
01:23:35.000 I think we wrote about this a while back.
01:23:37.000 And it is absolutely insane because the genetic testing is not always correct.
01:23:42.000 You want to talk about the death penalty being wrong, what, 25% of the time?
01:23:46.000 I want to talk about this test and why people abort their babies.
01:23:48.000 I'm against all of it.
01:23:49.000 I'm against abortion.
01:23:50.000 I'm against the death penalty.
01:23:51.000 I'm against euthanasia.
01:23:52.000 I'm against all of it.
01:23:54.000 This is an important point.
01:23:55.000 When we're talking about the death penalty, there's an argument to be made, all right,
01:23:58.000 well, 75% of the time or whatever, that person's guilty, whether you agree with the death penalty
01:24:02.000 or not, if the number's 25%.
01:24:05.000 But whether a child has Down syndrome or not, they're innocent.
01:24:08.000 It's wrong to kill them.
01:24:09.000 So when people are horrified because they go, oh my gosh, all these children died who didn't even have the disease that I think it's okay to kill people with, they're getting it backwards.
01:24:17.000 You just should not kill unborn children.
01:24:19.000 Yes.
01:24:19.000 When we were talking with Matt, he, it was just, man, it was kind of crazy.
01:24:26.000 When he was like, you said you would stand with those who wanted to ban abortion.
01:24:29.000 And I was like, I said, if my option was you who wants to legalize elective abortion at nine months or standing with the people who would ban it, I will stand with the people who will ban it.
01:24:41.000 Because that reduces the amount of death.
01:24:44.000 Yes.
01:24:44.000 But he didn't understand.
01:24:45.000 And he was like, you just want to ban abortion.
01:24:47.000 It's like...
01:24:49.000 No, I want less people to die.
01:24:50.000 That's what they tell themselves they have to say.
01:24:52.000 Tim, it has to be, for a lot of the way some people view you, it has to be that black and white.
01:24:57.000 That's why you have to be right wing in that dude's eyes.
01:25:00.000 But it was funny because it was like a progressive and a liberal arguing over abortion.
01:25:05.000 And the people who are watching who are conservative are like, these people are far left.
01:25:08.000 Everybody's insane.
01:25:09.000 I know, right?
01:25:10.000 I'm like, I'm pro-choice.
01:25:11.000 And he was like, I asked him and he said that he thought the woman can choose to abort the baby at nine months.
01:25:16.000 And I'm like, that's not...
01:25:18.000 You just deliver it!
01:25:19.000 The people in the middle always also get called the opposite of whatever side.
01:25:23.000 So, for example, like, if you're a 14-weeker, pro-lifers are calling you pro-choice, but pro-choicers are calling a 14-weeker relatively pro-life.
01:25:31.000 Do they say that?
01:25:32.000 Yeah, definitely.
01:25:32.000 Right wing.
01:25:33.000 A hundred percent, yeah.
01:25:34.000 If you're not up until nine months, then you're essentially pro-life.
01:25:37.000 Look at the conversation we had with Matt.
01:25:39.000 Yeah, but I think pro-life and pro-choice is a dichotomy, right?
01:25:43.000 You're either in favor of legal abortion or you're against it.
01:25:45.000 I realize that there are some people who are in favor of it at different stages or against it at different stages, but ultimately it's a binary.
01:25:51.000 You're either okay with abortion or you're not.
01:25:53.000 That's why at TimCast.com we say pro-abortion or anti-abortion.
01:25:56.000 Because pro-choice and pro-life are just stupid buzzwords.
01:26:00.000 It's rhetoric.
01:26:01.000 Matt says he's pro-choice, but not for men.
01:26:03.000 So it's like... What do you mean he's not pro-choice for men?
01:26:06.000 Women have the right to make a financial decision to kill a baby, but a man doesn't have a right to choose to abandon the baby.
01:26:12.000 So if a woman is pregnant and she says, I can't afford this, she can terminate the pregnancy.
01:26:17.000 It's her body.
01:26:18.000 It's her choice.
01:26:19.000 The man could also be broke, but he can't say, I would like to be removed from financial responsibility and choose not to have a child.
01:26:27.000 So basically he's infantilizing women.
01:26:29.000 Oh, yeah, of course.
01:26:30.000 I mean, that's typically what the left does.
01:26:31.000 They say that women aren't responsible for their choices.
01:26:34.000 You're not responsible for having sex with somebody if you had too much to drink.
01:26:38.000 That's on the man, even if the man had just as much to drink.
01:26:41.000 Do you remember that poster?
01:26:42.000 Which one?
01:26:43.000 There was a poster that went up at school that went viral several years ago where it was like, Have you both had too much to drink?
01:26:48.000 Well, you're raping her.
01:26:50.000 You're both drunk.
01:26:52.000 You're both trashed, bro.
01:26:55.000 Especially, I think in Illinois.
01:26:56.000 But I think that's infantilizing.
01:26:58.000 In Illinois, the statute is that rape is specifically male on female and women can't rape.
01:27:03.000 Like, I don't think there's no law for it.
01:27:06.000 I mean, I guess women can rape.
01:27:08.000 It's hard to imagine.
01:27:09.000 No, it happens.
01:27:11.000 It happens.
01:27:11.000 I mean, there was the story of that guy in the store where the woman force-fed him Viagra or something.
01:27:14.000 Oh my goodness.
01:27:16.000 Yeah.
01:27:16.000 I will say generally it is harder for a woman to rape a man, but it definitely does happen.
01:27:20.000 It's sexually assault from women.
01:27:23.000 Guys, guys, guys, you are just, you're oversimplifying this.
01:27:27.000 A guy can be sexually attracted to a woman and have a girlfriend and be like, I can't do this.
01:27:30.000 And then she can still coerce him or force him.
01:27:32.000 She can lean in his ear and say, I'll accuse you of doing something.
01:27:35.000 I'll claim you hit me.
01:27:36.000 She can spike his drink.
01:27:38.000 There's a whole bunch of stuff.
01:27:38.000 There's also been, there's also been, I think, substantial number of cases where a female teacher has raped a male student.
01:27:46.000 Right.
01:27:46.000 You know, like if a male student is 15, you don't have a ton of control over your whole situation, and your teacher is, you know, 28 or 30 or whatever.
01:27:54.000 I think the revelation here is that... That has certainly happened.
01:27:57.000 I was just reading an article about that today.
01:27:59.000 I think the real epiphany for all of us here is that women are obviously the real perpetrators the whole time!
01:28:05.000 Wow.
01:28:07.000 Or perhaps equality means that everyone is responsible for their own decisions and the outcomes and consequences of those decisions.
01:28:17.000 Maybe I read too much Camille Paglia.
01:28:19.000 I don't know.
01:28:19.000 When you talk to a progressive about abortion, they say, well, the man made his choice.
01:28:23.000 He could have chosen not to have sex.
01:28:24.000 And it's like, but not the woman, huh?
01:28:25.000 I've heard someone say that before.
01:28:27.000 I once heard someone say that you can choose not to have sex in order to not get pregnant.
01:28:35.000 I've said this before.
01:28:36.000 At some point, left-wingers just end up making right-wing arguments, but in really inconsistent ways.
01:28:42.000 That's what was confusing to me.
01:28:43.000 I was like, I don't understand what your position is.
01:28:45.000 Like, what are you opposed to?
01:28:46.000 What do you support?
01:28:48.000 And it's just, you get these, these empty buzzwords.
01:28:51.000 You know, it's her decision.
01:28:52.000 It's her choice.
01:28:53.000 No matter how many times me and Seamus were basically talking about the baby's body.
01:28:57.000 What if the baby's a girl?
01:28:59.000 Is it her choice?
01:29:00.000 Matt's answer was, it's the woman's choice.
01:29:02.000 And it's like, the baby is alive and being born.
01:29:06.000 It's the woman's choice.
01:29:07.000 Like, but he's like, it's her body.
01:29:09.000 It's like, but what about the baby's body?
01:29:10.000 It's like, it just right over the head.
01:29:12.000 Yeah.
01:29:15.000 There's no argument.
01:29:16.000 You can't argue with someone who doesn't understand what you're talking about.
01:29:18.000 Makes it hard, yeah.
01:29:24.000 Well, I thought, I think we did have a very productive conversation with Jamie yesterday, and one point he made.
01:29:29.000 And again, like, I mean, I very much enjoyed it.
01:29:31.000 And by the way, I'll say this, and we talked, we did it, we appreciated, you know, Matt coming on and being willing to have a conversation with us.
01:29:38.000 And, you know, I mentioned it was mostly with Tim.
01:29:41.000 There was a couple moments I felt a need to interject.
01:29:42.000 I didn't want it to be two on one.
01:29:44.000 There were a few times where I was like, all right, I have to jump in here because this is like blatantly incorrect and I need to say something.
01:29:49.000 But what I really appreciated about Jamie is he clearly Disagreed with me on the pro-life issue, but I felt as if his questions were very much in good faith And he was sort of curious about the perspective and he said something which was We're not really gonna get anywhere with the dialogue if people like don't have faith that they can reason with the person They're talking to and they don't have some basic and empathy and understanding for the other position
01:30:12.000 How can you have a coherent political discussion with people who believe Jussie Smollett?
01:30:14.000 it doesn't mean it's a good position and I agree with it. I think it's completely abhorrent to
01:30:19.000 believe in abortion, but also at the same time, I think a lot of people believe in it because they
01:30:23.000 just don't understand the issue that well. How can you have a coherent political discussion
01:30:30.000 with people who believe Jussie Smollett? You can't. Yeah, that makes it tough.
01:30:36.000 Like Taylor Lorenz can write every article in the world and people just like they stare at it with drool coming out of their mouths and it's like maybe this person can't understand arguments.
01:30:44.000 It's so funny that you just mentioned Jesse Smollett, because I just pulled up a post-millennial article saying, flashback, Dr. Oz pushed Jesse Smollett, hate crime.
01:30:52.000 Is that true?
01:30:53.000 Yeah, that's exactly right.
01:30:54.000 Well, I mean, to be fair, we all pushed it.
01:30:56.000 We all came out the next day and released our public statements, didn't we?
01:30:58.000 We'll see if Dr. Oz ends up coming on top of it.
01:31:01.000 Dr. Oz also was pro-trans, transing kids, and was pro-abortion prior to like 10 minutes ago.
01:31:09.000 We couldn't get Sean Parnell?
01:31:13.000 I don't think they called it yet, but I wanted to mention something about Dr. Oz.
01:31:23.000 I covered the Pennsylvania rally.
01:31:25.000 I was asking people is Dr. Oz America first?
01:31:27.000 Most people said no.
01:31:29.000 One person that I spoke to said Dr. Oz is the kind of guy who's supported by like Oprah Winfrey and like that's why he doesn't like him.
01:31:35.000 Wasn't Hannity like the Trump whisperer for Oz?
01:31:36.000 to him you know like Trump also supports him and Oprah originally supported Trump too like
01:31:40.000 I'm old enough to remember when Oprah Winfrey supported Trump's originally when Trump started
01:31:45.000 running.
01:31:46.000 Wasn't Hannity like the Trump whisperer for Oz?
01:31:50.000 It was so like it was so weird to so many people why Oz got that endorsement.
01:31:54.000 It's interesting we're seeing like this celebratification.
01:31:57.000 I don't know if we're seeing it more.
01:31:58.000 I'm just paying more attention.
01:31:59.000 But it's there was Trump originally.
01:32:01.000 There's Dr. Oz.
01:32:03.000 There's also I forgot the superstar football player, college football player in Georgia who's running for Senate.
01:32:08.000 I don't remember.
01:32:10.000 He has the gay son who's a conservative activist, too.
01:32:15.000 Walker, Walker!
01:32:16.000 Herschel Walker, yeah.
01:32:18.000 He's running for Senate, I believe, too, in Georgia.
01:32:21.000 So it's interesting that we're seeing this celebrification.
01:32:23.000 More celebrities throwing their hands in the races.
01:32:26.000 Although we saw that with Ronald Reagan.
01:32:29.000 He was a famous Hollywood actor.
01:32:31.000 All right.
01:32:32.000 And you can't get more famous than JFK.
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01:32:50.000 Gertius Maximus says, Project Veritas presents to catch a Redditor.
01:32:54.000 That's actually hilarious.
01:32:57.000 Why don't you take a lean over there?
01:33:00.000 El Guapo says, good to see Libby back on Timcast.
01:33:03.000 She is such a breath of fresh air.
01:33:04.000 She is so intelligent, well-spoken, and absolutely beautiful.
01:33:07.000 Oh my goodness.
01:33:08.000 Thank you.
01:33:10.000 We agree.
01:33:10.000 I agree with that guy.
01:33:11.000 Aw, you guys.
01:33:12.000 Rilo says, ending disinfo board is evidence they put the cart before the horse.
01:33:16.000 Government can only restrict government speech, so how the F could they run midterm Spygate scandals with a board tasked with stopping disinfo?
01:33:23.000 That is funny.
01:33:24.000 They had to shut it down because they realized their only ability was to caught their own lies.
01:33:28.000 They're like, wait a minute, it's going to stop us from lying.
01:33:31.000 They were like way too busy fact-checking Joe Biden.
01:33:34.000 They fact-checked Joe Biden and then they're like, wait a minute, the only thing we're allowed to say is that Joe Biden lied?
01:33:38.000 Wait a second.
01:33:41.000 Andrew Irvin says Post Millennial is reporting that 76 brand gas stations are preparing for $10 a gallon gas and that gas stations in the tri-cities are running out of gas.
01:33:50.000 Yeah, that's a Katie Davis Courts reporting.
01:33:53.000 Yeah, I think we saw that the other day.
01:33:54.000 Yeah, we pulled it up and didn't get to it last night.
01:33:56.000 Maybe we'll talk about it in the after show.
01:33:59.000 Lunderwear says, do a Project Veritas skit like Mission Impossible.
01:34:03.000 Dossiers on Twitter that self-destruct in 3D printed masks for O'Keefe.
01:34:07.000 Oh, yeah.
01:34:09.000 Truehello says, so you think suspended is code word for slipping with a black budget program outside of the purview of public congressional hearings?
01:34:16.000 That was the joke.
01:34:17.000 That when they're like, we're suspending the program, and then all the journalists write it down and say, all right, and they leave.
01:34:21.000 They turn around and the general's like, your budget's being increased.
01:34:24.000 Well, the other thing too is there was supposed to be a hearing, a Senate hearing, and it was cancelled.
01:34:30.000 Oh, wow.
01:34:30.000 Yeah, the Disinformation Governance Board hearing was cancelled because of all of the disinformation surrounding the Disinformation Governance Board.
01:34:38.000 Interesting.
01:34:39.000 Yeah.
01:34:41.000 Amber Byrd says, I can't ignore the timeline of the disinformation board shutting down as Bezos says Biden needs to be fact-checked by the disinformation board.
01:34:49.000 Yup.
01:34:49.000 Yeah, that was funny too.
01:34:51.000 I think they realize what that meant.
01:34:53.000 I think that people, you've got a government agency, there's going to be lawsuits, and then they're going to be forced to be like, yeah, Joe Biden lied about this, lied about this, lied about this.
01:35:02.000 And so did Nina Jankowicz and so did Jen Psaki.
01:35:04.000 They all lied.
01:35:05.000 I think it's funny that the department... About the same things over and over again.
01:35:09.000 We joke that the Department of Defense is actually the Department of Offense.
01:35:12.000 Nice.
01:35:14.000 But then with the disinformation board, it's like, why would we assume they're stopping disinformation?
01:35:19.000 You know, if you go to an ice cream shop, are you assuming the guy who's there is trying to stop people from getting ice cream or he's trying to give the ice cream out?
01:35:26.000 So what are they going to do?
01:35:27.000 Yeah, good point.
01:35:30.000 Andrew Petra says, if you haven't watched the Army's new recruiting video for its psychological operations career field, you need to.
01:35:36.000 Really weird and creepy stuff.
01:35:37.000 Ooh, someone pulled that up.
01:35:38.000 Did it say you have to have two moms?
01:35:40.000 Yeah, that was the Navy, right?
01:35:41.000 No, that was the Army.
01:35:42.000 Oh, that was the Army.
01:35:44.000 Yeah.
01:35:45.000 And you had to be neurodivergent.
01:35:47.000 So the Army had the ad about two moms.
01:35:50.000 And, you know, we all talk about it.
01:35:52.000 And Russia started shaking in their boots and so did China when they saw it.
01:35:54.000 Some people told me that the army is very administrative, so that's what they were targeting, you know, people to work and file paperwork.
01:36:00.000 The ad for the Marines was a guy who was in a swamp with a rifle, like, you know, going through the trees or whatever.
01:36:09.000 All right, let's grab some more.
01:36:11.000 Seriously, JK says, last night's James O'Keefe undercover running gag was quite possibly the funniest string of jokes and ideas I've seen in a long time.
01:36:18.000 Thanks, guys.
01:36:19.000 And we're going to do it.
01:36:20.000 We came up with a really funny one afterwards that was Jamie being scared of getting canceled.
01:36:26.000 We can't spoil the whole thing.
01:36:27.000 Shouldn't spoil it?
01:36:27.000 No, no, no.
01:36:28.000 If we're going to make it, they got to see it.
01:36:30.000 Yeah, the ending was brilliant.
01:36:32.000 It was a really good one.
01:36:33.000 Yeah, all right.
01:36:34.000 I won't spoil it.
01:36:34.000 I won't spoil it.
01:36:35.000 Good stuff.
01:36:36.000 All right.
01:36:37.000 Thomas just says yeah to men crew.
01:36:39.000 All right.
01:36:39.000 Very cool.
01:36:41.000 Cole Kirkman says, I'm sorry, Kirk, Kirkham.
01:36:44.000 Tim, I just traveled from Houston to Altoona.
01:36:47.000 I'm a traveling tower climber.
01:36:49.000 I'm up here for work.
01:36:50.000 I'd love to meet up with someone about possibilities on joining the team.
01:36:53.000 I don't know what we have right now, especially for a tower climber.
01:36:56.000 Good sir.
01:36:57.000 Uh, we're, we're looking for, uh, for journalists.
01:37:00.000 That's so hard to find.
01:37:03.000 Writers specifically.
01:37:04.000 People who write.
01:37:06.000 Difficult.
01:37:07.000 Everybody's getting poached up and whatever.
01:37:09.000 Yeah, it's hard to find writers.
01:37:10.000 All right, there are a lot of super chats directed at Libby.
01:37:15.000 They're saying that Libby is a good mother.
01:37:18.000 Oh my god.
01:37:20.000 I knew I shouldn't have worn this dress.
01:37:22.000 We'll just leave it there.
01:37:24.000 I even asked Lydia before we went on, I was like, I don't know about this dress, yo.
01:37:28.000 They're all just saying you're a great mother.
01:37:30.000 Uh-huh.
01:37:31.000 That's very, very kind.
01:37:32.000 J.H.
01:37:33.000 says, I'm late to the party on this one, but everyone needs to watch the creepy Lon and Prime video.
01:37:38.000 Very interesting documentary from 2018 on election manipulation via big tech.
01:37:42.000 Was it the Democrat one?
01:37:43.000 I don't know.
01:37:45.000 Remember the Democrats put together something?
01:37:46.000 They were like really concerned about voter manipulation through voting machines back in 2018.
01:37:51.000 Oh, that sounds right.
01:37:52.000 Yeah.
01:37:52.000 Yeah, something like that.
01:37:53.000 That does sound right.
01:37:55.000 Okay.
01:37:57.000 Smedley Butler the third says inflation is an increase of the currency supply devaluing the currency's purchasing power Which raises prices the one and only culprit behind this is a printing machine and its family owners.
01:38:12.000 Oh Man the chat is going off.
01:38:14.000 What is everyone saying?
01:38:15.000 saying they're just saying good mother Libby. There's a lot of super chats.
01:38:23.000 Some of these Super Chats are inappropriate.
01:38:28.000 Some of them aren't.
01:38:32.000 Come on, chat.
01:38:33.000 Get it together.
01:38:35.000 You guys made Libby put on a shirt.
01:38:39.000 So we got some big superchats.
01:38:40.000 I'm not going to read that.
01:38:42.000 It's my own fault for buying a new dress and thinking I should wear it in public.
01:38:46.000 Michael Tuff says, Seamus, please shame everyone in the chat.
01:38:50.000 Seamus, get on it.
01:38:51.000 For shame.
01:38:52.000 For shame.
01:38:52.000 Here's one.
01:38:53.000 Stronger says, Libby is looking very pretty tonight.
01:38:55.000 Seamus is okay.
01:38:56.000 Thank you.
01:38:58.000 I'm glad someone thought I looked nice.
01:39:00.000 I like the purple shirt.
01:39:01.000 Thank you very much.
01:39:02.000 I need to do laundry.
01:39:05.000 Matthew Reckham says, Kamala is an android that runs on a predictive text AI.
01:39:09.000 Change my mind.
01:39:11.000 I know, it's really funny.
01:39:12.000 Did you ever do one of those tweets where you just press the middle predictive text and then just put it out there?
01:39:17.000 You read that and you're like, that does sound like a Kamala speech.
01:39:21.000 Did you see her thing?
01:39:22.000 Her thing about working together?
01:39:24.000 No, it wasn't.
01:39:26.000 Okay, I'm going to find it.
01:39:27.000 You can keep going.
01:39:28.000 By the way, I want to mention about Democrats.
01:39:32.000 There was a poll from The Economist.
01:39:35.000 It was a YouGov poll in The Economist.
01:39:39.000 that said, and this was in 2016, that around 50% of Democrats agreed that Russia tamper with vote
01:39:48.000 tallies in order to get Donald Trump elected president.
01:39:50.000 When you mentioned voting, yeah, when you mentioned hacked voting machines, I wanted to
01:39:55.000 bring that up.
01:39:56.000 There was a one more time. 50.
01:39:58.000 So it's a YouGov poll that said about 50% of Democrats believed in 2016 that voting machines were actually hacked or that Russia tampered with tallies in order to get Trump elected.
01:40:11.000 There was a story, I think it was Newsweek, that half of the population of the country believes the country is being run by a secret organization they don't know, like they don't know who it is.
01:40:23.000 Wow.
01:40:24.000 Not surprising.
01:40:25.000 But I think the scarier thing is that half the people don't think that's true.
01:40:29.000 They should.
01:40:30.000 No, because I think when you read that, your assumption is, they believe in the Illuminati, when in reality they're
01:40:35.000 like, oh, there's probably big pharmaceutical, big lobbyists who
01:40:38.000 are doing things we don't know about.
01:40:40.000 And that's actually the reasonable position.
01:40:42.000 But it's also what literally everyone argues, right?
01:40:44.000 Because the right will argue things about, like, there being a deep state or corporate America having too much control.
01:40:49.000 The left will argue similar things about corporate America, used to argue similar things about the deep state.
01:40:54.000 And they'll also say things like, well, this X, Y, and Z is a threat to our democracy.
01:40:58.000 The people aren't actually in control here.
01:41:00.000 So I don't know why that's considered like an insane conspiracy theory.
01:41:03.000 It's pretty mainstream to not think the government's, yeah, truly being run fairly.
01:41:07.000 We got a good one here.
01:41:08.000 John Harrell says Blackrock Neurotech is making their own brain implant.
01:41:13.000 Maybe Musk is making his as an alternative to theirs.
01:41:15.000 Look up the Brain Initiative.
01:41:18.000 So when you have two billionaires, or a massive multinational corporation and a billionaire, both looking and saying, implant my thing into your brain!
01:41:25.000 I'm the good guy!
01:41:26.000 What you're supposed to do is ask the other one, ask the other one what the other would say, and then do the opposite.
01:41:36.000 Do you guys know the riddle about there's two brothers and one always lies away?
01:41:39.000 It's like the doors, right?
01:41:40.000 Right, you ask the other one, and then do what the other one tells you to do.
01:41:45.000 But I have the Kamala thing, if you want to see it.
01:41:48.000 Oh yeah, what is it?
01:41:49.000 How do I show it to them?
01:41:50.000 Well, just read it.
01:41:55.000 She said we will work together and continue to work together to address these issues, to tackle these challenges, and to work together as we continue to work, operating from the new norms, rules, and agreements that we will convene to work together on.
01:42:08.000 Oh my gosh.
01:42:09.000 What?
01:42:09.000 She said that.
01:42:11.000 That's a predictive text AI.
01:42:13.000 That's what she said.
01:42:16.000 It's like when it gets stuck in a loop and it keeps giving you the same word over and over again.
01:42:20.000 That's happened to me before.
01:42:22.000 But she said it out loud.
01:42:24.000 I mean, is someone pressing predictive text in Kamala's brain?
01:42:29.000 No, you don't understand.
01:42:30.000 She's reading a teleprompter.
01:42:31.000 The person writing the teleprompter has a predictive text.
01:42:33.000 They're using T9.
01:42:34.000 I don't know what's going on with that.
01:42:36.000 There's like she actually she actually said that everything she says makes no sense at all and the fact like the only thing that is keeping people from trying to get Biden out of office is knowing that we would get her instead.
01:42:48.000 You'll get like a productive predictive text loop where you'll write I went to the movies and what'll come up it'll say and and you'll hit it and then I went to the movies and then I went to the movies and then that's a Kamala Harris speech that's how she writes her speeches.
01:43:04.000 She's like Hi everybody!
01:43:05.000 So I went to my family's house, and then I went to the movies, and then I went to the movies, and then I went to the movies.
01:43:13.000 And at the movies, I watched the movies.
01:43:16.000 I watched a movie at the film screen.
01:43:18.000 There was a screen, there was a big screen, and there was a small chair.
01:43:22.000 And we sat in the small chair and watched the big screen.
01:43:24.000 That's right!
01:43:25.000 We didn't sit in the same chair.
01:43:27.000 We sat in separate chairs.
01:43:28.000 Have you seen the family guy where Lois Griffin is doing the political debate?
01:43:31.000 Oh my gosh, no.
01:43:32.000 And they're like, how would you deal with the growing financial crisis?
01:43:35.000 And she goes, 9-11.
01:43:36.000 And they go, woo!
01:43:38.000 And then, you know, they ask her another question.
01:43:40.000 She goes, 9-11.
01:43:40.000 And they're all screaming.
01:43:45.000 So good.
01:43:46.000 Maybe she knows something we don't know.
01:43:49.000 Maybe.
01:43:49.000 Or what if?
01:43:50.000 Maybe she knows 9-11.
01:43:52.000 What if it's like half the country has been taken over by robots, and the robots are speaking clearly to each other, and we are laughing at them, thinking we're so smart.
01:44:01.000 And they're taking over.
01:44:01.000 We're just not smart enough.
01:44:02.000 What was that movie?
01:44:03.000 Put on the glasses.
01:44:04.000 Put on the glasses, man.
01:44:05.000 They live.
01:44:06.000 Yeah.
01:44:06.000 They're all James O'Keefe.
01:44:08.000 We have glasses.
01:44:09.000 Everyone is actually James O'Keefe.
01:44:11.000 Didn't someone chat that in last night?
01:44:13.000 Yeah.
01:44:14.000 Doing a spoof where it's a guy, he puts his glasses on, then he can see all the James O'Keefe's everywhere.
01:44:18.000 They're everywhere.
01:44:20.000 I just, I don't know if it's a good or bad thing that people are gonna, like, if every person at every tech company now thinks they could be getting hit by James O'Keefe, imagine the relationship problems they're gonna have.
01:44:32.000 There's gonna be an engineer at YouTube who meets, like, this amazing woman, and they're gonna have all the same interests, and he's gonna be like, It's James O'Keefe!
01:44:41.000 I can't do it!
01:44:42.000 And she's gonna be like, I'm not!
01:44:43.000 I'm not!
01:44:44.000 And he's gonna be like, I don't believe you!
01:44:45.000 No, everyone should have background checks on every, for every, for every date that they have.
01:44:50.000 But seriously, though, imagine that.
01:44:51.000 Like, imagine in real life a guy, you know, meets this beautiful woman organically and he just gets terrified and then he stops answering the phone.
01:44:59.000 And then she calls one day and she's like, you stopped answering the phone.
01:45:01.000 He's like, you're James O'Keefe!
01:45:04.000 And like, hangs up.
01:45:05.000 And she's like, that was weird.
01:45:06.000 Well, or maybe these people, when they go out on dates, should not be trying to impress their prospective mates with spilling their guts.
01:45:14.000 I know it's our first date, but let me tell you about Corporate Malfeasance.
01:45:18.000 I mean, stop breaking your NDA just because you're trying to get laid.
01:45:21.000 Like, come on.
01:45:22.000 It's insane.
01:45:22.000 Also, but, like, the things they are spilling aren't even things that would impress a date.
01:45:27.000 Like, I only work four hours a quarter.
01:45:29.000 What?
01:45:30.000 You're telling her you're lazy?
01:45:31.000 Why would you say that on a first date?
01:45:34.000 Some of the questions are a little bit obvious, too.
01:45:37.000 Like, when they keep probing, like, I think there was one person who she was like, yeah, what do you think of Project Veritas, by the way?
01:45:42.000 And this guy was just completely clueless.
01:45:44.000 She's like, can I get that in writing?
01:45:45.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:45:46.000 I like the funniest part.
01:45:48.000 When the guy said Veritas.
01:45:49.000 Yes, exactly.
01:45:49.000 The Project Veritas employee goes, he gives them info about, the person being set up gives them info about Project Veritas that's on their phone.
01:45:58.000 They're reading a corporate email.
01:45:59.000 And the Project Veritas reporter goes, Project Veritas?
01:46:04.000 I was like, how obvious?
01:46:06.000 How obvious are you gonna make it?
01:46:07.000 Like, this is a cartoon.
01:46:08.000 It's like, remember when Homer tried getting Mr. Burns' mail?
01:46:11.000 And he's like, hello, my name is Mr. Burns.
01:46:14.000 Okay, Mr. Burns is your first name?
01:46:17.000 I don't know.
01:46:19.000 That's what it was like.
01:46:20.000 I will say this about the Veritas videos, though.
01:46:22.000 They do leave me wanting a little... I know they heavily edit a lot of their dates, but I want to see the full dates with these guys.
01:46:29.000 Oh, the whole thing?
01:46:29.000 I want to see when they look into their eyes and say, I love you.
01:46:32.000 I want to see the very pretty Project Veritas girl that they definitely hired with the creepy looking... Oh, but you can't show her.
01:46:37.000 Well, I'm assuming they can only do one gig.
01:46:39.000 No, because they have to do more than one gig.
01:46:41.000 No, that'd be dangerous.
01:46:43.000 They just don't release the footage.
01:46:45.000 But then doesn't the guy know about the girl?
01:46:49.000 The guy's looking at her face.
01:46:51.000 Yeah, but he's going to try to reverse out her.
01:46:53.000 I bet the guy's not looking at her face.
01:46:55.000 The girls will do multiple stings and then they release the footage.
01:47:00.000 Yeah.
01:47:01.000 Let's read some more.
01:47:02.000 We got Bogdanoff says, Tim, what happened to your members only comment section on your website?
01:47:06.000 Why can't we comment anymore on your videos?
01:47:09.000 We will reveal more information in due time.
01:47:11.000 We have to do some infrastructure work for comments, so we've got an announcement coming.
01:47:16.000 I can't say too much, but when we switched over to Rumble, a lot of things had to change.
01:47:21.000 We've got to build stuff.
01:47:22.000 That's the easiest way to put it, but we're going to be implementing a bunch of infrastructure changes to avoid censorship, to become more resilient against censorship.
01:47:30.000 Wouldn't it be funny if you're like, I was just sick of what you guys had to say.
01:47:33.000 Yeah, I mean... Yeah, I was tired of arguing!
01:47:36.000 No, no, we want comments.
01:47:38.000 We're thinking of a bunch of ways we can do it, and we'll get it sorted.
01:47:43.000 Okay, Joseph says, I just put in an offer for a home on two acres in Minnesota for $200k.
01:47:48.000 The home was built in 1973, the deal is expensive and hard to find near jobs.
01:47:52.000 But, uh, you know, good going.
01:47:54.000 Congratulations.
01:47:55.000 That sounds really cool, yeah.
01:47:56.000 Get some chickens.
01:47:57.000 Nice.
01:47:57.000 Goats, yeah.
01:47:58.000 Chickens and goats.
01:47:59.000 And they'll hang out together.
01:48:01.000 And sometimes it's funny, the chicken will ride the goat.
01:48:02.000 No way, really?
01:48:03.000 That happens?
01:48:04.000 Do you have goats?
01:48:05.000 We don't, no.
01:48:08.000 Wait a minute.
01:48:09.000 What's the channel?
01:48:09.000 What are you gonna... What's gonna be the project with the goats riding chickens?
01:48:14.000 Are we gonna get to see that?
01:48:15.000 Well, it'll probably just be Chicken City.
01:48:17.000 Chicken City with goats.
01:48:18.000 Oh, that's cool.
01:48:19.000 That's nice.
01:48:20.000 Goat Township.
01:48:21.000 Well, so long as the chickens outnumbers the goats, it's gonna stay Chicken City.
01:48:24.000 Until they get enough goats, and then they're gonna demograph.
01:48:27.000 But also, you already have the brand name.
01:48:28.000 I don't know if this is a replacement theory.
01:48:29.000 Chicken City edition of a replacement theory.
01:48:34.000 The chickens start getting freaking out.
01:48:35.000 The chickens are like, why are our eggs going to the goats?
01:48:38.000 I don't understand why they're sending the eggs away.
01:48:40.000 All the leghorns get really worried about it.
01:48:42.000 And then you're gonna have some great cheese, too.
01:48:44.000 Who are you gonna have come in to make some cheese?
01:48:45.000 The leghorn joke worked really well for people who know chickens, but for those that don't, they're all white chickens.
01:48:50.000 Oh, I see.
01:48:51.000 Yeah, that makes sense.
01:48:52.000 And then we have the red on the reds are brown and white.
01:48:55.000 Let's read some more Super Chats.
01:48:58.000 Alexander Harold says, first SC ever, kill someone in self-defense, you have to prove self-defense.
01:49:03.000 So burden of proof for abortion, health and rape would require investigation similar to self-defense.
01:49:08.000 Thoughts?
01:49:08.000 Four-year fan.
01:49:11.000 That's actually interesting.
01:49:12.000 If you were going to create an exemption for abortion in the case of rape, there would have to be an investigation.
01:49:18.000 And they would have to be able to, like, prove it, I guess.
01:49:21.000 But the left would never stand for that.
01:49:23.000 I mean, firstly, they would never want to limit the number of abortions ever, but then I think their argument would be like, no, you never investigate into it because that would allow them a loophole for basically anyone to still be able to get an abortion so long as they said they would.
01:49:33.000 I think some of the most successful movements in the country are always trying to, you know, they try to morph and live up to the ideals of the Constitution.
01:49:41.000 So I think, you know, the civil rights movement did this, where they were arguing that all men, the Declaration of Independence said that all men are created equal, bestowed with unalienable rights by their creator.
01:49:51.000 So like, you know, I think pro-lifers, it would behoove them to make a similar type of argument.
01:49:56.000 What do you mean?
01:49:57.000 That like, babies have certain unalienable rights, and we need to live up to the values that are set in our constitution.
01:50:03.000 And then if we want to change that, well, we need amendments to do that, so.
01:50:07.000 Well, if you kill a pregnant woman and you kill her baby, do you get charged extra?
01:50:10.000 I don't think you do, right?
01:50:11.000 I think sometimes you do.
01:50:12.000 Yeah, it's considered a homicide.
01:50:14.000 Scott Peterson, right?
01:50:15.000 Yeah, Lacey Peterson.
01:50:18.000 Well, he killed his wife and baby, right?
01:50:21.000 She was pregnant, if I'm not mistaken.
01:50:22.000 But it depends on the state.
01:50:24.000 Does it depend on how far too?
01:50:25.000 Probably a little bit.
01:50:26.000 Yeah.
01:50:27.000 All right.
01:50:28.000 Burt USA.
01:50:29.000 Hold on.
01:50:29.000 Scott Peterson was convicted of killing his pregnant wife and their unborn baby.
01:50:32.000 How far in?
01:50:33.000 What state, though?
01:50:34.000 What state?
01:50:35.000 Wasn't that Massachusetts?
01:50:37.000 I don't know.
01:50:37.000 Tell me it was a blue state.
01:50:38.000 If it was a blue state that'll be interesting.
01:50:40.000 It was either Massachusetts or California.
01:50:43.000 Tell me it was before the heartbeat.
01:50:46.000 She was pretty pregnant.
01:50:48.000 There was a case like that in Massachusetts too where the guy said that it was a black guy who came and like carjacked them and killed his wife so it was on top of everything else it was like super racist.
01:50:59.000 All right.
01:50:59.000 Well, while Seamus figures that out, we got BurtUSAFlorbo says, new case of monkeypox spotted in Massachusetts.
01:51:05.000 The dude got it when in Canada.
01:51:07.000 A little too close to the abominable snowman, if you ask me.
01:51:10.000 Conspiracy?
01:51:10.000 I think not.
01:51:12.000 Monkeypox!
01:51:13.000 What if there's a monkeypox pandemic?
01:51:17.000 It's a disease.
01:51:17.000 You get it.
01:51:18.000 Sam says, innovation competence is like other traits.
01:51:21.000 It operates on a bell curve.
01:51:23.000 While percentage stays the same, real numbers change and the far ends push out as numbers increase.
01:51:28.000 So the highest potential ability increases with larger population.
01:51:32.000 For example, the top 1% in a hundred versus a hundred K. That's a really, really good point.
01:51:39.000 When you have hundreds of millions of people, the bell curve will get wider because you have a higher chance of anomaly.
01:51:46.000 So, actually, it's an interesting way to think about it.
01:51:48.000 If there's a one-in-a-million athlete, but you only have a hundred people, you're not going to see that amazing athlete.
01:51:54.000 If a million people, you'll have one at the far end, so the bell curve actually will become wider.
01:51:59.000 Ty Johnson says, people want to be younger today because they were trapped inside, afraid of the outside as children due to tech and the parents wanting safety over childhood.
01:52:08.000 Is that what it was?
01:52:09.000 Don't know.
01:52:11.000 The Peterson case was in California.
01:52:13.000 Was it?
01:52:15.000 Wow!
01:52:16.000 Isn't California like very pro-abortion?
01:52:18.000 Super pro-abortion.
01:52:19.000 They're so pro-abortion that they don't even track how many abortions are performed in the state.
01:52:23.000 It's Schrodinger's child where it only counts if you want it to and when it's not advantageous it just doesn't count.
01:52:32.000 I was looking at this recently, and there are a number of states that don't report or record or keep data on how many, on the racial breakdown of abortions.
01:52:41.000 So I'm pro-choice, but one of the most eye-opening statistics that I heard that was for many years in New York City, that were more black children aborted than were birthed, and it just sounds so outrageous.
01:52:52.000 It sounds that outrageous, where you're just like, wait a minute, what?
01:52:57.000 I don't know if it was every year, but it was for some of the years and to even have gotten close is kind of a crazy thing to conceptually, yeah.
01:53:06.000 Wow.
01:53:07.000 Margaret Sanger's dream come true?
01:53:08.000 That's crazy.
01:53:09.000 Yeah, it was actually a lot.
01:53:11.000 It was a lot of abortions performed in New York.
01:53:13.000 It was like New York and Florida were at the top of abortions.
01:53:17.000 Yeah.
01:53:17.000 All right.
01:53:18.000 We got, uh, Josh says, hope you guys are planning on doing another drinking game next time Biden has a State of the Union.
01:53:23.000 That show was one of the, one of the best TimCast fam.
01:53:26.000 You know what we need to do?
01:53:28.000 We need to do, uh, it doesn't need to be the State of the Union.
01:53:31.000 We should definitely do for any, you know, big event or something.
01:53:35.000 We got to bring Jamie back, Kirstein, and Lauren Southern.
01:53:39.000 And then Lauren can have more of the pappy in her paper cup.
01:53:41.000 But that was hilarious.
01:53:43.000 The show with Jamie was absolutely hilarious.
01:53:45.000 And so we'll just... It'll be two hours of just laughing non-stop.
01:53:49.000 And then everyone will have to go to the hospital from ruptured guts.
01:53:51.000 Yeah, he brought a really good energy.
01:53:53.000 Yeah, it was fun.
01:53:54.000 Really fun.
01:53:55.000 And Lauren did, you know, when she poured the $1,000 whiskey in her paper cup and drank it a lot.
01:54:00.000 It was very funny.
01:54:01.000 Very funny.
01:54:01.000 We enjoyed it very much.
01:54:04.000 Tim, you promised me you'd never invite her back.
01:54:06.000 Oh, she'll be back soon.
01:54:07.000 I agree with this.
01:54:08.000 There are a lot of people who skate who are conservative.
01:54:11.000 They just want to admit it.
01:54:12.000 That's the problem.
01:54:14.000 Conservatives.
01:54:14.000 In skate parks in the streets most parks have all the all walks of life skating will set you free. I agree with this
01:54:20.000 there are a lot of people who skate who are Conservative they just want to admit it. That's the problem
01:54:27.000 conservatives Why so cowardly? Yeah, if everyone just spoke up and spoke
01:54:32.000 their mind there wouldn't be any of this cancellation backlash nonsense
01:54:35.000 Yeah I think the coalition is more of an anti-left than conservative.
01:54:41.000 And when I say anti-left, I'm going to talk about two specific issues.
01:54:45.000 It's that men can become women and women can become men.
01:54:48.000 It's kind of this gender ideology issue.
01:54:50.000 And then it's also the defund the police stuff.
01:54:52.000 Those are sort of one of their two big I haven't heard a lot about that lately.
01:54:58.000 I haven't heard a lot about the defund the police.
01:55:00.000 Do you think it's going to come back?
01:55:02.000 It's because BLM is not as popular.
01:55:03.000 It's because BLM isn't as popular and defund the police polled horribly and the Joe Biden administration as well as Democrats know that now after trialing it so they have to run away from it more but there's still the ideologues in the party who do believe that.
01:55:16.000 Well, and BLM turned out to be a whole bunch of grifters.
01:55:22.000 I'm going to give a wag of the finger to Fox News because they are really misrepresenting the latest scandal.
01:55:29.000 So they keep saying that Patrice Cullors paid her baby's father and her brother $970,000 and $840,000.
01:55:37.000 Let me clarify that because I feel that's very misleading.
01:55:40.000 There's an LLC that does An LLC run by her baby's father does live production and her brother runs a security company now by all means I think Hiring your friends and family to do the jobs is a conflict of interest when you have those money but the idea that that money was compensation versus cost and That's what happens when Fox News says she paid her brother.
01:56:03.000 It's like, no, no, no, look.
01:56:04.000 If her brother was doing security at this company, how many security guards did she hire and how much money did he really get?
01:56:09.000 So maybe what really happened is she paid her brother a hundred grand, which is still like, you know, should a nonprofit be hiring all of their friends and family?
01:56:18.000 The live production thing, the one question I had was they spent $150,000 on a live stream.
01:56:22.000 And I'm like, okay, now we're asking some questions.
01:56:25.000 But Fox is making it seem like she's just giving the money straight to her brother to, like, do whatever he wants with.
01:56:31.000 So he's getting a lot.
01:56:31.000 The other thing, too, is if she was receiving more than $100,000, they would have to disclose that on the 990s.
01:56:37.000 They did not, because she probably wasn't.
01:56:39.000 It doesn't mean she's not getting paid in other ways, though, so... She also said that those 990s were triggering to have to fill them out.
01:56:44.000 Right.
01:56:44.000 That was funny.
01:56:45.000 Oh no, people are gonna find out we're... Oh no!
01:56:47.000 Yeah, right.
01:56:47.000 I have to do accounting.
01:56:49.000 All right, Rajesh says, my humble... Oh, she also said that she was flush with white guilt money.
01:56:54.000 Right, yeah.
01:56:56.000 But, I mean, that's... She's right.
01:56:59.000 Of course she was.
01:57:02.000 I don't think that's a problem to say that.
01:57:03.000 She is completely accurate.
01:57:05.000 All right.
01:57:05.000 Rajesh says, My humble submission to the panel to reprioritize issues.
01:57:09.000 First, dying microbes in soil leading to starvation in future.
01:57:13.000 Hashtag save soil.
01:57:14.000 Second, climate change.
01:57:15.000 Real or not, we need best practices to preserve life on this planet.
01:57:19.000 Millionth priority.
01:57:20.000 Feminine men trying to get attention.
01:57:24.000 I agree with the more responsible practices when it comes to maintaining the environment
01:57:32.000 and all that stuff.
01:57:33.000 My attitude is kind of like, I can't stand the Green New Deal because AOC was just like
01:57:38.000 equity and social justice.
01:57:40.000 And when I brought that up to Matt, he's like, that's where it starts.
01:57:43.000 That's the important thing to deal with, the Green New Deal is minorities.
01:57:46.000 And I was like, what does that have to do with wind turbines, dude?
01:57:49.000 I want energy sources that don't generate carbon, like nuclear power.
01:57:54.000 An amazing return on energy investment.
01:57:56.000 Energy return on energy invested.
01:57:58.000 And no carbon emissions.
01:57:59.000 We're all happy, right?
01:58:00.000 No, they don't want that either.
01:58:01.000 Yeah, also, I'll say this.
01:58:03.000 We absolutely need to have a coherent understanding of sex in order for society to function, because the family is the building block of society, and sex is what creates families.
01:58:13.000 And if we don't have a functioning society, we can't hope to solve any of the problems he's pointing out.
01:58:17.000 So these issues are genuinely important.
01:58:20.000 Google has announced that they're very close to creating an AI with human intelligence, so perhaps we can just build people.
01:58:27.000 Quickly on the climate change issue.
01:58:28.000 That's going to go great.
01:58:29.000 I believe in amphiphomorphic climate change.
01:58:32.000 That is to say that the humans are having some influence on the climate.
01:58:35.000 But I also believe that we are scientific creatures and our continued understanding and new discoveries that we will run into is what's going to help us steer our way out of this.
01:58:44.000 My issue with the Green New Deal is that it doesn't try to solve reduced carbon emissions.
01:58:49.000 I don't think it tries to do any of that.
01:58:50.000 It just tries to overthrow quote unquote capitalism and our current system.
01:58:54.000 That is the goal of the Green New Deal.
01:58:56.000 It's not to reduce emissions, it's to try to force our way to use renewables that won't
01:59:01.000 work well in our system.
01:59:02.000 And then also like fun questionable things because again we paid like billions of dollars
01:59:07.000 for these solar panels in China that never panned out now that we're just overlooking
01:59:10.000 these costs.
01:59:11.000 So the issue with the Green New Deal is that it's more about communism really and so
01:59:15.000 and socialism, because that's what happens at these events, than actually trying to make a difference
01:59:19.000 for the environment.
01:59:20.000 Right now there's like an island of plastic the size of Texas or even larger right now.
01:59:26.000 The North Pacific Garbage Gyre.
01:59:28.000 So if any, like, that is something that I'm genuinely concerned about.
01:59:31.000 I studied biology, I care a lot about the environment.
01:59:34.000 I've never heard anybody talk about how we're trying to deal with that,
01:59:37.000 and that's something more tangible than just climate change.
01:59:39.000 I will say that I was with a theater company for a while, and we worked for a very long time on an art project that was about ocean pollution, ocean acidification, and the North Pacific Garbage Dyer.
01:59:50.000 That's why I know all about it.
01:59:52.000 I do have a solution, though.
01:59:53.000 I've thought a lot about this.
01:59:54.000 So hear me out.
01:59:55.000 What if we gave free healthcare to marginalized people?
02:00:00.000 Why?
02:00:00.000 For the environment?
02:00:02.000 It'll make the environment better!
02:00:04.000 It actually would make the environment worse because you'll produce more refuse.
02:00:07.000 Like more medical waste.
02:00:09.000 But what we really need to do is we need to pursue more nuclear energy.
02:00:13.000 The reason Medicare for All won't ever happen is because the Democrats will insist to make abortions included in healthcare and also insist that all illegal immigrants also get healthcare.
02:00:23.000 That's why this issue I don't think will ever move forward.
02:00:25.000 I know that's a huge conversation.
02:00:26.000 I think it won't move forward because they want to keep using it as an issue that will never move forward.
02:00:31.000 Here's what we'll do.
02:00:33.000 Geostationary orbital nuclear power stations that transmit energy wirelessly Down to the surface.
02:00:43.000 How can you look like lightning?
02:00:48.000 An electromagnetic or laser or something.
02:00:51.000 Yeah, there you go.
02:00:52.000 Boom.
02:00:52.000 Problem solved.
02:00:53.000 I'm with it.
02:00:54.000 Then when it melts down, it just blows up in outer space.
02:00:56.000 And they keep taking nuclear power plants offline.
02:00:59.000 I got it.
02:01:00.000 Guys, a Dyson sphere.
02:01:02.000 Around the sun.
02:01:03.000 Problem solved.
02:01:03.000 You know, I speak to a lot of Green New Deal people, and they'll tell me they're anti-nuclear openly.
02:01:08.000 No, of course they're anti-nuclear, because the boomers have convinced everyone that nuclear's gonna kill everyone, and it's not.
02:01:13.000 Well, they're not really there to solve the problem, I think is the larger issue.
02:01:15.000 Right, I think that's exactly correct.
02:01:17.000 I've got one, instead of a Dyson sphere, we'll put a Tyson sphere around the sun.
02:01:21.000 It's just a lot of chicken.
02:01:22.000 Is it like, no, a Tyson sphere, like Neil deGrasse Tyson, it just like pedantically corrects you about things.
02:01:27.000 I thought you meant like Tyson chicken, and then we just get like a lot of chicken.
02:01:30.000 It's like the sun powers it.
02:01:32.000 It'll cook chicken really fast.
02:01:34.000 We'll just read a couple more here.
02:01:37.000 Ants Honey says, you can't fool me, James O'Keefe.
02:01:39.000 What have you done with Libby?
02:01:41.000 I admit it, it's me.
02:01:43.000 I'm about to break out in song.
02:01:44.000 We need to have James on at one point to just have that happen with like, Lauren will be here.
02:01:49.000 And then while we're talking like, wait a minute, that's not Lauren Southern.
02:01:51.000 And then we'll have James jump in and say, James in a wig, like jumps in poorly disguised as Lauren.
02:01:57.000 It was James the whole time.
02:01:59.000 There's a funny meme that Seamus.
02:02:02.000 You tweeted and I saw it.
02:02:04.000 Someone, Wolfsbane1104 made it.
02:02:06.000 And it's the crazy hot axis.
02:02:08.000 Have you ever seen that?
02:02:09.000 Oh yeah.
02:02:10.000 Yeah, where it's like, you know, a woman who's like really crazy and kind of hot you stay away from, but like a woman who's like hot and not that crazy you marry.
02:02:17.000 And then normally it says not crazy and totally hot.
02:02:20.000 Unicorns don't exist.
02:02:21.000 He changed it.
02:02:22.000 It says James O'Keefe.
02:02:23.000 James O'Keefe.
02:02:25.000 That's correct.
02:02:27.000 All right.
02:02:29.000 Let's see.
02:02:30.000 Zach Snow says, I love this show, but I'm hating the chat tonight.
02:02:33.000 Libby, love seeing you on the show, but you're killing the chat section tonight.
02:02:36.000 It's not me, you guys.
02:02:37.000 Why are you blaming me?
02:02:39.000 I haven't even been in the chat.
02:02:41.000 I've been over here in this chair.
02:02:44.000 She's been very focused.
02:02:45.000 With King Kong.
02:02:48.000 All right.
02:02:49.000 We'll grab one more.
02:02:53.000 Dorktanian says, I will run the nightly Timcast IRL drinking show, judging which tropes are shots, drinks, and flubs.
02:02:59.000 It was flib, right?
02:03:01.000 It was flib?
02:03:01.000 Flib?
02:03:02.000 Florbs?
02:03:02.000 I don't know.
02:03:03.000 I made up a word for woman.
02:03:05.000 You should say florbs again.
02:03:06.000 That was really funny.
02:03:08.000 Who was it?
02:03:08.000 They were like, what word should we use for a woman then?
02:03:11.000 And I was like, flib.
02:03:13.000 Yeah.
02:03:14.000 Flibs.
02:03:15.000 I like florbs.
02:03:17.000 Well, florbo is neutral.
02:03:19.000 Oh, I see.
02:03:20.000 That's gender neutral.
02:03:21.000 Neutral is...
02:03:22.000 Yeah, so my point was that if someone tells me I have to use their pronouns, I'll say, I won't use the pronouns that, if you're like, hey, don't use he or him, use this or that, I'll say, I won't use the pronouns you want, but I'll use totally different ones you don't expect.
02:03:35.000 Florbo.
02:03:35.000 Okay.
02:03:36.000 Florbo.
02:03:36.000 Yeah, Florbo told me, you know, and then it's like, but it's nice.
02:03:40.000 It's like Florbo.
02:03:41.000 It sounds like a marshmallow.
02:03:42.000 It's actually, it's kind of fun to say.
02:03:43.000 Right.
02:03:44.000 Which I think should count with four words.
02:03:45.000 It was meant to be like the beanbag of words, so it's soft, and you're okay.
02:03:50.000 But they don't get to tell me what I say.
02:03:51.000 It reminds me of, like, you remember Flobby?
02:03:53.000 Remember that?
02:03:54.000 Flobby?
02:03:55.000 No.
02:03:55.000 Do you remember this?
02:03:55.000 Is that what it was called?
02:03:57.000 Flobby?
02:03:57.000 And it was like a vacuum haircutting tool?
02:03:59.000 Yeah, it sounds like.
02:04:00.000 Oh.
02:04:01.000 Yeah.
02:04:01.000 Well, it reminds me of, if you have not already, would you kindly smash the like button?
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