On this week's show, Alex Blumberg and Rachel Maddow discuss the results of the CNN primary debates and what they mean for the upcoming midterms. Plus, a special guest joins the show to talk about a story about Democrats voting for a dead guy.
00:00:43.000And in the end, the Republicans did fairly well.
00:00:46.000If you were tracking the projections a month or two before all this went down, then you're not surprised by the results.
00:00:53.000If you were tracking the projections only in the week or two before, you probably thought they were gonna do way, way, way better.
00:00:58.000And, you know, look, I'll say, everybody wants to yell and scream Red Wave because they want to boost Muriel and get everyone to go and vote.
00:01:04.000But this is why I was saying things like, don't... don't think you're gonna win.
00:01:09.000You need to go out and vote no matter what the polls say.
00:01:11.000But in the end, it's, uh, it's within the parameters of what even FiveThirtyEight's projections were up until, like, two weeks ago when these debates started happening.
00:01:17.000So, right now, I think we're looking at potentially 224 seats for the Republicans in the House.
00:01:22.000We're looking at potentially 51 seats, maybe, with the runoff.
00:02:57.000And don't forget to check out our new song over at LosingMyMind.com.
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00:03:21.000So there you can see the image of me scowling at Rachel Maddow.
00:03:36.000I've been interviewed by very aggressive, intelligent and hostile people and you're of course a sweetheart.
00:03:44.000But I was just introduced, I have a greater understanding of the restrictions under which you operate now and I was sort of mentally checking off as we talked about the things that I probably shouldn't say.
00:03:55.000I was just sort of mentally checking off, you know, like, oh, okay, that's, yeah.
00:03:59.000So I don't really have any ways to communicate that don't aggressively violate the rules of YouTube and whatever, but I've got post-its.
00:04:11.000I've made post-its of the most egregious offenses.
00:04:14.000And, you know, with every good intention in the world, I'm going to do the best I can to be socially acceptable for you.
00:04:19.000But I want everybody hearing to realize that we're going to do the Members Only Uncensored show, and then, you know, we'll show the post-its and people can... By the time that rolls around, I'm going to be so desperate to swear.
00:04:32.000Like, you know, the reason we don't like swearing is because people watch if their kids are in the room or they're listening in the car and they're driving their kids.
00:04:38.000If you swear, we just, you know, it is what it is.
00:04:40.000A ghastly childhood to be subjected to political commentary.
00:04:44.000It could only happen in the third world country.
00:04:48.000Civilized people are not so obsessed with politics.
00:04:50.000Milo, we have a lot to talk about, like with you and everything that you've done and been going through and what you're willing to talk about.
00:05:35.000It's because Democrat voters can relate to him.
00:05:39.000This is going to be a fun show, but this is why I decided to wear my normalized critical thinking t-shirt, which I think we need more of than ever.
00:05:47.000If you agree, you can get the t-shirt on thebestpoliticalshirts.com, and because you do, that's why I'm here.
00:06:11.000If you live in Florida for any period of time you begin to go native and you start to wear things like this and somebody got it for me as a joke and they're the most comfortable things I've ever had on my feet so I live exclusively in crushed velvet handmade slippers from German Street in England and fish flops.
00:06:33.000I have $2,000 Versace brocade slides and all the rest of it.
00:06:38.000I get no compliments remotely close to how much people love these shoes.
00:06:44.000I get asked I think 10 times a day, where did you get those shoes?
00:06:47.000So yeah, I'm basically living the life of an eccentric retiree.
00:06:53.000Which I'm happy with, because I do a lot of work behind the scenes for people now, so I get sort of all of the clout, influence, and income without any of the stress of being in public.
00:08:20.000It's really disturbing, and I want to change it.
00:08:21.000Well, you're a sweetheart, so it's probably not so difficult for you, but those of us who are compelled to break the rules with every breath we take, there used to be a place for us, you know?
00:08:34.000I think we can have a much greater conversation on this for The Uncensored Show, but I'll just add, I view it like running through a battlefield where you know mines have been placed, and we're trying to make it to the other side to win this conflict.
00:08:45.000Also, when you're trying to change a system's structure, it's good to go right next door to the system and behave the way you want that system to become, and then it will bleed over into the new system.
00:08:58.000We'll talk about that for the members on The Uncensored where we can go really off, but let's jump into this first story.
00:09:03.000Ladies and gentlemen, last night, Republicans won, and then I wake up in the morning and all the conservatives are angry.
00:09:10.000They're saying that this was an unlosable election and we did so poorly, and I'm seeing all these leftist personalities cheering and screaming like, oh, no red wave, and I'm just like, I don't understand, the Republicans won.
00:09:24.000They won, and there's likely more winning coming.
00:09:26.000I get it, Republicans wanted a bloodbath, but instead, they got a victory.
00:09:31.000So now, this is great, Biden says he won't change anything after a successful night for Dems, does intend to run in 2024, and it will be fun watching Don V. Ron taunt the press.
00:09:43.000Okay, he's not going to change anything.
00:09:45.000That's not the message that people wanted to hear.
00:09:47.000The message that people want to hear is, things are going to get better.
00:09:51.000And for a variety of reasons, people are willing to vote Democrat, and a variety of really weird reasons, like they voted in the dead guy.
00:09:58.000I don't think people want to... I think that people used to be engaged in politics because they wanted to get a glimpse of a better world, but that's the washing powder version of politics.
00:10:11.000I think people are well into bitterness.
00:10:14.000I think people want to see the bad guys bleed.
00:10:17.000I think that people want to see The bloodbath that you're talking about comes not from a desire to reimagine the world in a better way, because I think people are losing hope in that.
00:10:27.000I think people want to see their antagonists suffer.
00:10:32.000And the reason for the Republican frustration is that they were expecting a rare moment of catharsis, which is not granted often to people with right-of-center politics.
00:10:44.000A moment in which they could reassure themselves that sometimes justice is done.
00:10:48.000That the universe is capable of delivering true justice where it is warranted.
00:10:57.000So what was stolen from them was not some kind of washing powder commercial glimpse of a better future.
00:11:08.000What was stolen from them was revenge.
00:11:11.000Because these people don't feel like they've been out of power, and that's a shame.
00:11:15.000They articulate their feelings now in very religious terms, and they talk about their enemies in terms of demons, devils, and Satan, and the way in which they express themselves.
00:11:33.000I think the emotional, the sunk emotional cost That they had attached to the midterms as a moment when they could reassure themselves that maybe there was, you know, maybe there was still some glimmer of... But they won.
00:12:05.000When something happens that always happens, that happens whether you campaign or not, that happens whether you do anything or not, that's not a victory.
00:12:14.000People perceive that as a kind of, almost like a weather event, you know?
00:12:21.000It's just part of the natural cycle of things.
00:12:23.000There was no victory because there was nothing above and beyond what the ordinary course of a midterm election.
00:12:30.000That they needed something that proved, something symbolic and something of meaning.
00:12:35.000They just wanted the people who they feel are tearing the fabric of their civilization apart, doing all kinds of things that we'll talk about in the... To be rebuked.
00:14:00.000What happened in this election was not only were the leaders in the Republican Party removing spending from some of the most inspirational and popular candidates, which itself is a form of demoralization, and sabotaging Some of the candidates that had the most promise for upsets.
00:14:18.000Those little things that give you a burst of joy.
00:14:21.000A burst of joy in an otherwise... Yeah, I mean, you know, it would have been nice if he'd won, but...
00:14:32.000What they correctly intuited is that this was another example of the powers that be in the Republican Party leaving money on the table, actively sabotaging the candidates that the base likes most because they hate them.
00:14:49.000The powers that be in the Republican Party sabotaged some of the candidates that were the most popular with the base and changed the result of some of those elections through removing millions of dollars in spending.
00:15:02.000So the Republicans are acting out not because they're babies who are choosing to be losers, they're acting out because they were wronged and they know it.
00:15:10.000Sure, sure, but I don't think that explains Ben Shapiro, for instance.
00:16:33.000Like, I watched that debate and I wanted to vote for the guy.
00:16:37.000What people are seeing is results that are out of step with how they know people feel about this presidency.
00:16:43.000And the reason those results are out of step is the Republican leadership, who didn't just sit by and say, let's just let what happens happen.
00:16:54.000They actively sabotaged the chances of some of the most popular, populist, nationalist, Trump-adjacent characters.
00:17:01.000It is, and you know voters are a little bit better informed and a little bit more intelligent, I think, than the Washington people give them credit for.
00:17:09.000They have correctly intuited betrayal.
00:17:13.000They are not upset because the results were, you know, they didn't get enough seats.
00:17:17.000They are justly I think the country should split in half.
00:17:22.000I'm very much in favor of a national divorce.
00:17:24.000have been betrayed by the people they pay to have their backs.
00:17:28.000Do you think that the Republican Party should split in half or
00:17:58.000The party is not fit for purpose and if it doesn't reinvent itself in Trump's image, it doesn't deserve to live.
00:18:04.000Trump or Ron DeSantis, that's going to be the big debate here as well.
00:18:06.000I don't think anybody is seriously in favor of DeSantis unless they're paid to be.
00:18:13.000I strongly disagree with you on that, but that's going to be a topic we're going to be discussing here in a little bit.
00:18:17.000If you're on Meghan McCain's side, you're on the wrong side.
00:18:21.000I don't think I'm on Meghan McCain's side at all.
00:18:23.000But more importantly here, there is something to say about this performance in the face of economic inflation, lockdowns, crime waves, which seems like it wasn't really affecting the election results.
00:18:35.000There's also the fact that a lot of Trump-endorsed candidates didn't win.
00:18:39.000Trump's attacking some of them right now.
00:18:49.000I felt a bit icky seeing Trump whine about the consultants.
00:18:54.000It didn't seem like a kind of alpha dog daddy thing that we're used to from Trump.
00:18:58.000Seemed a little bit pathetic and my hope is that he will announce soon and get his mojo back because at the same time as he's taking these very light touch teasing pot shots at DeSantis who has zero chance of But you think even in Miami and Tampa?
00:19:15.000DeSantis is almost as popular as Trump in some bits of Florida, but don't ask them to
00:19:20.000choose because he is gone the second they have to choose between him and Trump.
00:19:50.000And looking at the rogues gallery of people who are being paid to support DeSantis, I think unless you can provide a compelling case, which to date I have not heard, You are being charmingly naive in falling in line with the worst people.
00:20:09.000I can give a very compelling case for it.
00:20:13.000The worst people in this country who want more than anything for the will of the people to be subverted.
00:20:18.000They want to suffocate Trump and all he stands for and he is of course merely a proxy.
00:20:24.000He's a shorthand for a variety of things that they hate about Americans.
00:20:29.000They hate the gauche-ness of the South.
00:20:47.000I mean, there's a reason that these places that vote for Trump have drug problems.
00:20:51.000It's because the coastal elites systematically killed these towns by taking all the manufacturing abroad to weaken the economic clout of Republican places.
00:21:05.000Okay, these places were deliberately and systematically sabotaged and the result of that is like
00:21:11.000human misery on a scale that nobody really truly comprehends.
00:21:15.000There's now no reason for many of these towns in the South to exist and they stagger on
00:21:20.000with no factories, with no jobs, with no hope.
00:21:23.000And people lose themselves in godlessness and in drugs and in all manner of self-destructive behaviors.
00:22:41.000As somebody who has a little slice of that kind of charisma myself, and has experienced a retinue of desperate clingers and imitators in my life, I can tell you it never pans out trying to, you know, Just snatch the bits that you can stomach from the guy everybody loves and otherwise keep serving your special interests.
00:23:05.000Trump is a, look, whether you believe in God or not, you could express this in terms of ordainment if you wanted to, you know, or you could just say that some people are born with a magical ...kind of personality that captivates people in a way that nobody else can imitate.
00:23:25.000In terms of what people are getting from... DeSantis, on the other hand, has no identifiable personality at all.
00:24:11.000It's precisely that magical intangible that you try to articulate and stumble and then when you go to a rally you're like, that's what I was talking about.
00:25:55.000Their world wouldn't be ripped apart by social engineering and by other things I can't mention right now until the third hour.
00:26:03.000There are things going on in this country that threaten the very basis of our civilization, that stem from original sins like women's suffrage, but go all the way through to more modern fads and manias to do with things we can't talk about.
00:26:23.000People are keenly aware that the physical reality of the world they live in, the facts they took for granted, are being ripped apart by the political descendants of Now I understand.
00:26:41.000So Trump in 2016, I was very blessed to have the opportunity to be such a big part of that, because that was the last time that an entire half of this country felt like things might end up okay.
00:26:54.000And he turned out to be disappointing in office, but how could he ever have ended up otherwise?
00:27:01.000Not appointed really horrible people around him, like John Bolton and Dr. Fauci, and put him in positions of power.
00:27:06.000But one thing I want to bring up... Trump has a weakness for his family.
00:27:10.000He finds it very difficult to say hello to his family, I think.
00:27:12.000But that's the answer to your question.
00:27:14.000The reason that people will flock to him, no matter what, even though they hate what he has to say about certain medical things, They hate it.
00:27:23.000They can't understand why he's so proud of it.
00:27:25.000They can't understand why he never shuts up about it.
00:27:28.000It's like, do you know who your base is, bro?
00:27:31.000But they'll forgive that and everything because he was the last guy that made them feel like justice and hope was within reach.
00:27:39.000I'll try and quantify it the way I... what I'm basically hearing is that There are dark forces that are destroying the fabric of this country.
00:27:47.000Donald Trump stood in front of that and put a fist up to stop it.
00:27:54.000So when Christianity comes into Europe in the Middle Ages, right, its real innovation is a sort of joy and happiness that's not fueled by self-indulgence and self-destruction.
00:28:06.000So, pagan societies, you know, people losing themselves in music and substances, there's always kind of a cost attached to that kind of ecstasy, right?
00:28:16.000You get yourself caught up in some kind of hypnotic pagan, you know, trance thing.
00:28:22.000The nearest cognate we have these days is drug-fueled EDM raids.
00:28:26.000And it always comes with a cost attached.
00:28:29.000When Christianity comes in the Middle Ages, you suddenly see intensely religious people singing and dancing.
00:28:34.000They found this way to be happy that doesn't involve killing yourself in some sort of slow-motion suicide.
00:28:41.000People who are full of the joy of the Incarnation.
00:28:43.000And you have gargoyles pulling faces on cathedrals.
00:28:47.000You have religious people with smiles on their faces.
00:28:53.000One of the emotional capstones of Western civilization is that joy.
00:29:00.000You know, another characteristic of our artistic tradition is yearning or longing, right?
00:29:05.000Most great works of art are about reaching for something, you know, about that sort of romantic frustration or whatever.
00:29:10.000But one of the sort of emotional building blocks of our civilization is joy, joy in Christ, happiness for its own sake.
00:29:21.000I don't think anybody could plausibly claim that society is getting happier and more joyful.
00:29:26.000What we've seen with runaway schoolmarmishness and restrictions and regulations, the kind of intolerable and oppressive conditions under which some people, you know, valiantly continue to labour.
00:30:06.000They won't articulate it in the way that I did, but they're aware of it and they know that the last time that something good happened was this crazy guy that they remembered from a TV show who Suddenly inspired them with confidence that maybe it wasn't too late to beat back the hordes of hell.
00:30:30.000It could be also the loss of religion and the overindulgent society that is being prioritized by big tech social media.
00:30:36.000But I want to specifically talk about Trump because I did agree with a lot of things you said, specifically that he does have a cult of personality.
00:30:42.000He did represent an idea that was going to help the American middle class.
00:30:51.000Cult of personality is never a compliment.
00:30:55.000Cult of personality means that somebody has managed to baffle and bamboozle their followers into doing destructive things.
00:31:01.000Cult of personality is... Like maybe taking a product that they shouldn't be taking, that hasn't been proven, that hasn't been rushed to prove with Operation Warp Speed.
00:31:09.000But I just want to specifically get to the point of what happened today because Trump's messaging doesn't look strong today.
00:31:14.000He came out And he talked about how he got more votes in Florida during his election.
00:31:19.000He talked about how one of his endorsements was wrong and he openly threatened Ron DeSantis on Fox News saying specifically that DeSantis is going to hurt himself badly if he runs and that he has some kind of dirt on him that his wife doesn't even know that he's going to release to the general public.
00:31:34.000This doesn't seem like a unifier or someone who's going to bring the party together and help the party overall.
00:31:40.000It seems like he's looking He's looking out for himself.
00:32:23.000I don't know if Trump thinks in those terms.
00:32:24.000I don't know if he's- I'm only half kidding.
00:32:27.000I don't know if he's read a book, but I don't know if he's read his own.
00:32:31.000But he doesn't need to because he has that gift that a couple of people per generation
00:32:37.000have, which is when they're in a good spot and they're firing all cylinders, they just
00:32:43.000have an atavistic, reflexive, natural understanding of their people.
00:32:51.000And he's an interesting anomaly because typically you see this in Europe where there are more explicitly established class systems, right?
00:33:02.000So class operates in America, but everybody pretends it doesn't exist, which is why you don't really understand half of what's happening.
00:33:10.000There's a weird affinity between the aristocracy and the working classes in European countries that retain some vestige of aristocratic systems.
00:33:20.000And it's something to do with the fact they live in the same places.
00:33:22.000They both live, you know, rurally in the countryside.
00:33:26.000They are involved in the same kinds of bits of the economy.
00:33:30.000But they also have a similar outlook on the world.
00:33:33.000They tend to be conservationists rather than environmentalists, if that makes sense.
00:33:38.000They have a kind of understanding that the anxious middle classes, the doctors, teachers and lawyers who live in big cities, can't understand.
00:33:48.000Trump managed to pull that off in a way that I don't know if any American really ever has before.
00:33:53.000Reagan maybe had a little dollop of it, but not to this extent.
00:33:58.000Trump, perhaps because of his ludicrousness, putting his name in gold on the side of his buildings on
00:34:06.000his plane. The sort of extravagant and yet at the same time kind of mid-brow mid-market
00:34:11.000version of opulence that he was showing people set him so far apart
00:34:17.000from ordinary people that he just managed to form this kind of like weird
00:34:21.000but real bond in a way I've only seen previously in these you know in these
00:34:29.000And it's something to do with the fact that when he's listening to his own instincts instead of a certain family members and Like Ivanka Trump that told them to bomb Syria.
00:35:03.000I just want to bring this up really quickly.
00:35:05.000She's not a diabolical architect of her father's destruction.
00:35:10.000She's a very easily influenced woman who's very in love with her husband and anxious to maintain some kind of social status independent of her father, which means distinguishing herself from the views of his that are unpopular with New Yorkers.
00:35:25.000And I absolutely agree with you, but aren't you fearful that the establishment base of the party has been kicked out, or prosecuted, or is being currently put in jail, while the establishment wing of the Trump administration is still... You mean anti-establishment?
00:35:38.000No, the anti-establishment is getting thrown in jail, has been kicked out, has been kicked out of his administration, and the pro-establishment side is still surrounding him.
00:35:47.000I don't think that whatever petty humiliations visited upon those brave enough to raise their head above the parapet, you know, I don't think those ultimately inconsequential humiliations have much of an effect at all.
00:36:06.000Yes, but look, there are those of us who are called, compelled, whatever, whatever, it doesn't feel like much of a choice to me, it just feels like what I was put here to do, to charge out in front and accept the cost of that and what comes with it, you know?
00:36:28.000And those sort of spectacles, those moments in culture, those moments in history, they linger for decades.
00:36:36.000They have an effect vastly more complex and far-reaching than people usually appreciate.
00:36:44.000And when people watched certain things happening to center-right popular funny guys, It will shape the thinking of Republican voters for decades.
00:36:59.000The fact that there is, for all of the wailing of the left about systemic injustice, which can never really be located or convincingly explained, there is a hideous injustice This has been visited on them and many of the people that they have admired and loved.
00:37:19.000That stuff shapes the way that people live and the way they think.
00:37:24.000It shapes their opinions of new players on the scene.
00:37:27.000There will always be sacrificial lambs.
00:37:31.000That doesn't in itself mean anything bad, usually the opposite.
00:37:38.000Yeah, but do you feel let down because you're one of the people that was really behind Donald Trump.
00:37:44.000So were a lot of other people that were censored, that were punished, that were banned on social media.
00:37:49.000And a lot of people think that Trump was in a position of power where he could have stood up for his supporters, stood up for all the individuals that were going down, taken down as he was in positions of power.
00:37:59.000Do you feel, like, slighted in any way where he could have done something to big tech social media, he could have reigned them in, and he could have also gone to parlor, he could have also stood up for free speech, but he didn't?
00:38:12.000I understand why a 70 year old man might not have comprehended the priority that that was.
00:38:21.000Look, I watched the cancelled summit at the White House and I noted, like everybody else, that nobody who had actually been cancelled was invited.
00:38:30.000It is a fact of historical record that every year when the new interns came into the White House, they were asked if anybody was a fan of Alex Jones or Marlionopoulos.
00:38:39.000And if they said yes, they were escorted off the premises.
00:38:44.000And you guys were the biggest... That happened every year that Trump was in office.
00:38:48.000Now, Trump bears ultimate responsibility for his hiring decisions, but the whole apparatus of the party was deeply committed to a business model that Trump threatened to wreck inside a generation.
00:39:09.000The gravy train might be over if he succeeded.
00:39:15.000The antibody response that you saw to Trump was the Aggressive, ruthless, sociopathic response of people who are wedded to earthly riches.
00:39:32.000Seeing their hoard threatened by somebody who could, you know, cast a spell and impoverish them.
00:39:43.000I wouldn't want 2016-17 to have played out any other way.
00:39:47.000What possible better story is there than of these people who were, it's like, you know, people were robbed of us, it sounds conceited to say, but, you know, this fascinating and exciting corner, well, it wasn't a corner, it was, you know, culture really, was sort of wiped out by bad people with bad intentions, and no one was ever held accountable for it, and everybody feels poorer as a result.
00:40:11.000You know, without cancel culture you wouldn't operate under the appalling conditions that you do.
00:40:20.000And that's why I don't wish for it to go any differently than it did.
00:40:28.000I think the lasting impression and the righteous indignation that that produced What do you think about Elon Musk buying Twitter and everything that's happened so far?
00:40:42.000Well, a sensible person would probably say they're cautiously optimistic.
00:40:46.000The thing I've been following most closely is his... Somebody sent me a telegram channel that just kind of catalogues all of his activity on Twitter.
00:40:58.000And I don't so much look at what he tweets, because that's obviously, you know, through the lens of, you know, public management, whatever.
00:41:05.000What's more telling and where I think everybody kind of gives themselves away is in those casual likes that happen at 2 in the afternoon or 2 in the morning, you know?
00:41:14.000And the way he brutally handled Kathy Griffin.
00:41:22.000What I look for when I'm trying to kind of work out what's really going on, I try to think, what's making this guy smile?
00:41:31.000What is bringing this guy happiness, satisfaction, joy?
00:41:36.000Because that I find to be a reliable indicator of future behavior.
00:41:40.000So I'm looking at some of the stuff that Musk likes, and I'm getting a bit more optimistic.
00:41:45.000And then, you know, when he said she was banned for impersonating a comedian, that's funnier than anything that Kathy Griffin has ever said.
00:41:59.000And this tells me that he takes great personal satisfaction in seeing justice served to those who have been living high on the hog for far too long.
00:42:10.000Abusing and insulting the rest of us while not allowing us to respond in kind.
00:42:18.000And that tells me that he is Powerfully motivated to see justice done publicly So you think that Kathy Griffin was a good move or a bad move?
00:42:29.000It's phenomenal because it it it was I mean Elon is the king of vaporware and and that's very frustrating but at the same time he he has a sense of theater and spectacle and and It was classically intelligent, Elon, because it was just the right demonstration that he meant what he was saying.
00:42:59.000And forced her to tweet from her dead mother's Twitter account, which she then tried to play off as knowingly ghoulish, but she just looked weird.
00:43:09.000I mean, she is a damaged figure anyway, but she is a greatly diminished figure as a result of this interaction.
00:43:17.000He didn't force her, she decided to do it herself, which is disgusting in itself.
00:43:21.000Well, the mom thing was just kind of like the clown world capstone.
00:43:27.000The way in which he brought her to heel.
00:43:31.000By being funnier than she has ever been, which is supposed to be her job.
00:43:34.000I mean, like, who would go up against a comedian on Twitter?
00:44:58.000It was putting his money where his mouth was, right?
00:45:00.000Not that he hadn't done it already, but, I mean, I think he borrowed most of the money for the purchase, and put a lot of debt on the books, but who wouldn't?
00:45:09.000It was him showing us that he meant it.
00:45:21.000You made a very important point about comedy healing society, and I think one reason why society is so ravaged is because comedy has been pretty much been made illegal.
00:45:43.000Would you be different or would you be the same?
00:45:47.000Everybody I know has had a very different trajectory after cancellation to me.
00:45:53.000I'm sorry, people are going to know who I'm talking about and some of them are friends and some of them used to be friends, but I've just seen people become just destroyed.
00:46:05.000I've seen people wreck themselves through this, like, hysterical kind of manufactured grief about a Twitter account.
00:47:05.000You know, in ancient Rome, when an emperor was especially bad.
00:47:11.000They would do something that was later called Damnatio Memoriae.
00:47:14.000So when the emperor died, they would chip his name off buildings and smash his busts with the goal of erasing him from history.
00:47:23.000The idea was that, you know, nobody would be able to tell in future because in Europe, in Western civilization, we used to think in terms of Of civilization, of legacy.
00:48:11.000But you know, you can go and you can make a new life.
00:48:13.000But to be forcibly installed on the sidelines watching as your name and your
00:48:22.000work and your reputation is destroyed and dismantled and urinated on.
00:48:31.000That's something that not even the most sadistic and insane Roman emperor suffered.
00:48:37.000And I can understand why a lot of people find it traumatic.
00:48:41.000Perhaps I had a bit more of a healthy attitude to all that in the first place, so I didn't kind of feel an existential loss of like, it's a Twitter account.
00:48:54.000It didn't make me wake up in a cold sweat thinking I've lost everything, as it did to some other people, because I think I maybe had a bit of a better appreciation of what it represented and what it didn't.
00:49:09.000But I understand why they're traumatized, you know?
00:49:19.000I feel like, I mean, I kind of like sort of define that era and me coming back is going to be like a, well, there's any, all roads lead to some kind of, some kind of disappointing tribute act to past glories, you know?
00:49:37.000And I don't really believe in, you know, kind of trying to resurrect past successes.
00:49:44.000I'm happy that they happened and all the rest of it, but I'm not somebody that can live that way.
00:49:51.000So if I do, it will probably be in a very different format and a very different style.
00:50:02.000It's a battlefield that I comprehensively conquered and I don't feel the need to revisit it because I beat it.
00:50:09.000I beat it so much that, you know, they had to institute, you know, the regime that followed.
00:50:15.000They had a hashtag... I can't say the word.
00:50:18.000They had to make rules because of you.
00:50:20.000I mean, it set the trajectory for the failure of the company, you know.
00:50:24.000And that's something I regard with, you know, nostalgia and satisfaction.
00:50:28.000And revisiting it would be to fall prey to a sort of debilitating temptation to live in the past.
00:50:41.000Milo, I want to ask you this question, because you talked about legacy in the Roman emperors.
00:50:44.000I'm wondering if you think the loss of that in modern civilization, that many people no longer care about their legacy and their history, is a defining factor in why things are the way they are, falling, becoming darker.
00:50:55.000Yes, it's a product of women's suffrage.
00:50:57.000The kinds of people who were plausible candidates for office changed when the voting base broadened.
00:51:08.000And I don't think it's controversial to say that the sexes are different and have different priorities and different preoccupations and different ways of approaching the question, who do I want, right?
00:51:23.000I am of the view that women's suffrage changed politics for the worse because I think it opened the floodgates to opportunistic, charming sociopaths who might previously have been weeded out or considered not the right kind of person.
00:51:41.000Sometimes you see glimpses of this in, I mean, if you watch Mary Poppins, right?
00:51:45.000And the dad who's kind of like vilified Mr. Banks is the only virtuous character in the whole thing.
00:51:50.000And he's talking about how discipline, order, and that essential English virtue, restraint.
00:51:57.000are the basis of a orderly civilization.
00:52:03.000And those are the virtues, the values, the habits that we should aspire to.
00:52:08.000And all around him, he's got this pampered, prideful mess of a wife who can't be bothered to be a mother and is churning through nannies instead because she's, you know, got her whatever.
00:52:20.000There's this witch who descends from the sky and, you know, It gives the kids psychedelic drugs, I guess.
00:52:30.000We've got to remake this movie, by the way.
00:52:36.000She kind of wears the thin veneer of rules and manners, but really she preaches chaos.
00:52:45.000There's stuff in that movie that is on purpose.
00:52:49.000In Feed the Birds, she has the audacity to claim knowledge of what the saints think about airborne rodents pooping on cathedrals, damaging the architecture.
00:53:04.000It's a very subversive movie about the triumph of witchcraft over virtue.
00:53:18.000We have to do like a thing where we watch it and you do like a director's commentary kind of thing where you explain all this stuff.
00:53:23.000There's a show in Britain I think called Gogglebox where the show is two people on a couch talking about the show they're watching and it sounds like unendurable but it's really good.
00:53:34.000I've never seen it, but everybody loves it.
00:53:38.000No, I mean, there's so much in that movie, you know, to unpack the way that she presents as an appropriate candidate for the role, but then immediately sets about wrecking the social order.
00:53:56.000And it's a particular kind of Christian restraint that Mr. Banks is explaining.
00:54:06.000He's saying that we can't just give in to every reckless and wild abandoned temptation.
00:54:12.000He's saying in order to prosper and to be happy and to be successful and for our ancestors to be proud of us and our descendants to be grateful to us, there are virtues we should cleave to that involve not indulging ourselves And what does Mary Poppins come and do?
00:54:32.000She comes and makes a mockery of the business of tidying the room by using witchcraft so there's no effort expended, violating the natural order of things and teaching the kids that they can do their chores without the effort required and therefore they don't learn lessons from it.
00:54:50.000She takes them on this psychedelic journey, teaching them nonsense words.
00:54:53.000She praises... I mean, you won't know this as Americans, but you don't feed pigeons in London.
00:55:09.000Is about encouraging a vermin that has destroyed the architecture of London, you know?
00:55:15.000Everything in that movie is about undermining or overturning the natural order of things.
00:55:21.000And this is what the headless, selfish, prideful mother, wrapped up in her own political escapades, neglecting her duties as a mother, Now, the reason that I abhor women's suffrage is not that it was something women just demanded, demanded, demanded that they don't deserve or that they're not capable of executing.
00:55:44.000Actually, it was a manifestation of cowardice from the men because it was a way of saying, you're on your own, handle yourself, I'm not responsible for your decision making and therefore I can't be held accountable for what happens afterwards.
00:55:57.000Women's suffrage was a result of a crisis of confidence in the men.
00:56:01.000And this was greatly enhanced and concentrated by the two world wars that Europe experienced where men, I think, basically lost the, they felt like they lost the right to rule.
00:56:16.000They felt like they'd wrecked the world.
00:56:18.000I mean, it's difficult for us from this distance to appreciate.
00:56:22.000The unfathomable, you know, psychopathic horrors of the Third Reich, you know, in whatever manifestation you choose to believe, you know, whichever configuration of historical fact, they're all terrible.
00:56:37.000How a well-ordered Christian society gets to the point of going along with that is something that ought to haunt all of us.
00:57:33.000He's quite a serious guy and says quite outrageous things, things you couldn't say on YouTube.
00:57:42.000He is actually quite a profoundly serious figure, despite the great joy he brings into the world by his selflessness, his sacrifice.
00:57:50.000But very interestingly, I just also want to bring up… What he lays down for us is what became the great classic English virtue of restraint.
00:57:59.000I'm going to say no, because I understand that there are consequences that come with short-term pleasure.
00:58:10.000And this really is the most useful lesson that anybody can teach their children.
00:58:14.000And Mary Poppins is just an extended undermining of the most valuable lesson that any parent can teach their child.
00:58:24.000Yeah, and when you look at modern entertainment, you do see a lot of those themes regurgitated and exaggerated, especially with some of the... Well, now things are just grotesque.
00:58:33.000Yeah, it's unwatchable because it's not entertainment, it's propaganda.
00:58:36.000A lot of it is sometimes, if we're lucky, it's subconscious and subliminal, but many times it's overt, in-your-face, the larger messaging of not just degeneracy, short-term pleasures, but just also destroying not only race relations, sex relations, but destroying kind of humanity from the inside with this psychological mass That's hypnosis as I call it.
00:58:55.000The individual subject matter are all, you know, arguable and we'll probably agree about
00:59:00.000all of that, but the real characteristic that it has, the way to understand it, because
00:59:06.000it's happened before in history, the nature, its character, its nature, is that we're entering
00:59:12.000a late decadent period of gloating that is common to all illegitimate tyrannies.
00:59:18.000And the one we have right now is something that Orwell didn't foresee, a weird blend
00:59:22.000of private enterprise and government run by the same people who operate both for their
00:59:30.000exclusive enrichment and which has impoverished all of us in spiritual ways, in financial
00:59:36.000ways, in all kinds of ways, culturally, you name it.
00:59:41.000I'm going to put a link in the description below.
00:59:42.000Our lives and our society are getting dramatically worse with each day that passes.
00:59:46.000And my decision personally has been to refuse to play along with that.
00:59:50.000And I won't operate within those rules because I think it's beneath the dignity of a human being to do so.
00:59:58.000I don't mean that as an insult to you guys because I admire the discipline that it takes and I understand the calculus that you've made, right?
01:00:06.000We're going to say less but to more people.
01:01:19.000I want to specifically go in that direction.
01:01:21.000You're saying that women don't care about legacy as much as men do, or what's the... How does that happen?
01:01:26.000A system working perfectly is a system where everything is in its right place, performing the function for which it was designed, okay?
01:01:34.000And if any component in that system is improperly utilized, or damaged, or in the wrong place, the whole thing can seize up, and sometimes it can be destroyed.
01:01:45.000A fine watch from a Swiss watchmaker will be irretrievably wrecked by a component being moved from here to here.
01:01:59.000Only the very expensive ones, but you get the point.
01:02:02.000We… I take the same view of creation.
01:02:05.000We ought not tamper with the order that has been laid out for us.
01:02:12.000And there are different, distinct… Equal but different, I suppose people want to say.
01:02:18.000There are distinct… I don't think they are equal.
01:02:20.000I think women are greatly venerated and always have been.
01:02:23.000And when women ask for equality with men, I'm of the view that they are silly in asking for demotion.
01:02:32.000What we shouldn't tamper with is the proper order of things.
01:02:37.000There's a proper order to the physical world, to the natural world that reflects the heavenly order, that represents the supernatural, that reflects the supernatural, right?
01:03:04.000And Camille Paglia, the feminist critic, says that the one characteristic, an infallible guide to imminent collapse in All great civilizations in the past is an obsession with, she calls it a kind of gender madness, right?
01:03:22.000Without getting into the subject in a way that would be dangerous, a preoccupation with innovative and sometimes confusing new definitions of things.
01:03:34.000Instead of confusing of this fundamental natural law, this is the moment at which civilizations lose their way and they don't last long after that.
01:03:42.000So, I think that it is a man's responsibility to protect and to provide.
01:03:47.000I think that men go out and create all these extraordinary things ultimately to impress women.
01:03:53.000When men want to impress other men, they take creatine and work out.
01:04:02.000Something sort of intrinsically homosexual about that.
01:04:04.000But when men go out and achieve these great feats, building civilizations, constructing cathedrals, it's because they want access, they want in.
01:04:19.000It's a romantic project and it's beneath the dignity of of wives and mothers who have a far more important purpose on earth to give them, you know, the petty workings of these political experiments that men have come up with to occupy themselves, to, you know, distract them with that stuff.
01:04:43.000And I don't think it's something that women especially love.
01:04:46.000I mean, women kind of hint this, sort of, they send us subtle indications that this might be the case.
01:04:52.000You see very often women kind of adopt the politics of their husbands.
01:04:55.000It's kind of a phenomenon that is actually more pronounced the more extreme that the husband's politics are.
01:05:01.000So you have these women who fall in love with like jihadis and they adopt, you know, radical Islam and then they go husband surfing because their husbands all, you know, kind of do suicide bombings.
01:05:30.000They want to feel loved, provided for, protected.
01:05:33.000And part of doing that is sparing women from the ugly, baffling, and frankly squalid world of politics full of opportunists and freaks and inappropriate people.
01:05:48.000You know, they're all the people who want power, right?
01:05:54.000But you think women shouldn't be in politics?
01:05:57.000I think that in America, because American men are so utterly pathetic, all talk and no action, that I find American women much more impressive than American men.
01:06:11.000And there are lots of examples of women having to step up where men have left vacuums.
01:06:15.000I think Marjorie Taylor Greene is an example of that.
01:06:18.000She will readily tell you that in a perfect world she wouldn't have to be doing this, but she felt that it was necessary and that she was the right person at the right time and the right place.
01:06:31.000So I see her as a kind of a sort of a Boudicca Joan of Arc kind of warrior queen archetype, you know?
01:06:37.000She's doing the thing that no man will step up and do.
01:06:40.000And, you know, every couple of hundred years men need a reminder like that, that they're reneging on their responsibilities.
01:06:48.000I don't think it's the proper arena of women to concern themselves with the intricacies of politics because they have a higher and holier and much more important purpose to which their skills are better suited.
01:07:01.000And I think that when, you know, when in the two world wars and women flooded the market, the workplace out of necessity, and then you have, you know, the invention of the washing machine which frees up this enormous amount of time.
01:07:13.000Once women had been, well, pleaded with to come and keep the factory line running, nobody felt they had the right coming back from war when they direct the world to say, all right, back in the kitchen, love.
01:07:26.000So they just sort of accepted the new reality.
01:07:30.000We can see what's happened as a result.
01:07:33.000There's been a feminizing of our institutions.
01:07:36.000Police forces have started to act more like school teachers, where they're kind of scolding people for using the wrong language rather than, you know, criminals.
01:07:45.000There's all kinds of hints that the priorities, that the mission statements, that the modus operandi of our state institutions, and now private enterprises too, have changed, and I don't think for the better, as a result of what was missold to women as emancipation and was actually their enslavement.
01:08:09.000Would you advocate for repealing the 19th amendment?
01:08:13.000For those that don't know, it's the women's right to vote.
01:08:15.000We owe women an enormous apology for the imposition that we placed on them by this grievous ongoing offense, subjecting them to the ugliness of politics when they should be concerned with raising the next generation and perpetuating the dynasty, which is of course the thing that the man is worrying about.
01:08:34.000And he finds a wife that he believes will be a partner with him in that task.
01:08:41.000And while he's having these grandiose thoughts and building these extraordinary structures, it's the women that are doing the hard work of raising the next generation.
01:09:03.000I mean, there was a big push by the industrialists, individuals like David Rockefeller, that wanted to, of course, make sure wages were lowered, make sure that there was a bigger tax base.
01:09:13.000There was a political push, a psychological push, but there's also a biological push.
01:09:18.000If you look at men, Their grip strength is going down.
01:09:57.000So, capitalism wants maximum freedom because maximum freedom means maximum profits.
01:10:03.000And that works on both the supply and... It works every point in the chain, right?
01:10:07.000So, the more workers you have, the better.
01:10:10.000The more people who can work, the better, because the more diverse the workforce is, the less likely they are to unionize.
01:10:14.000Which is why big business is in favor of diversity, because it makes their workforces easier to abuse and to manage.
01:10:21.000That's the reason big business likes diversity, because if you have a workforce made up of people who can barely speak each other's languages, they are never going to get together to beat the boss.
01:10:35.000You can get someone in trouble for anything.
01:10:37.000Anybody who is acting out of line, you can say, oh, well, you're violating this provision.
01:10:41.000This, I believe, is a manifestation of a frustrated maternal instinct from women who should have had children and didn't.
01:10:49.000And it's become this kind of out-of-control, turbocharged policing of others, this attempt to impose order on the world.
01:11:01.000And, you know, I lay the blame for this at the feet of men who, you know, it's the job of a husband to establish the parameters within which his family will operate.
01:11:13.000These are the things that I will accept and these are the things that I will not accept.
01:11:16.000And he counts on his partner to express those wishes in her daily decisions and how she raises the children.
01:11:24.000Well, men haven't been doing that for a really long time and the result has been anarchy.
01:11:31.000And not just like, not just chaos, but like true epistemological anarchy.
01:11:36.000They're like multiple fact universes in America now.
01:11:40.000There are people who believe completely different pictures of what they think is objective reality, right?
01:11:45.000Because instead of politics being, you know, the art of the possible grounded in reason, Now we have competing narratives and these narratives are completely factually divorced from one another and in most cases from from reality themselves as well.
01:12:02.000This is the result of this is a feminization of discourse because we become untethered from Mr. Banks's reason and discipline which always falls on the man to hold in line and instead we begin to indulge in I mean to put it in grammatical terms, right?
01:12:41.000Everybody knows it's not worth… What he doesn't understand is that the price point is part of the feature set for a woman.
01:12:47.000Because when she… exhibits this handbag to others, she's signaling that she has snagged a high status husband, that she's secure, that she's safe, and that she's part of an ongoing and secure dynasty that will outlive her, and that she has acquired a secure and enviable position in the social pecking order.
01:13:07.000And that social pecking order, you know, is a preoccupation of, you know, the parish, you know, scolds of popular legend.
01:13:16.000Men don't understand that buying the big diamond, that makes no sense, because the association with diamonds and eternity and love is an invention of the ad industry, right?
01:13:30.000But it's meaningful now, and it matters now, because it's an expression of something that What women want to see in their husbands is that they will do anything, the grand gestures, the romantic gestures, even where it imperils their own pleasure, well-being, et cetera, et cetera, to publicly demonstrate their love for this woman, right?
01:13:52.000And then they want to build a home with a man who they don't necessarily always agree with, but they always admire and respect.
01:14:01.000The deal is, I'll do what you say, even when I don't agree with you, because I respect, admire, and trust you enough to let you set the parameters for the household.
01:14:12.000When men fail in their duties to set those parameters, women expand endlessly with no limits.
01:14:31.000Um, and so, so the vice president would be like, I love you.
01:14:34.000I just can't get these women to sell you to advertisers because they're going to come up with a bunch of reasons why you're whatever.
01:14:40.000Um, the, the, the economy of value is so completely different and, and, and, you know, When people stray into areas that are not their proper domain, and that could be a husband interfering in something that happens domestically, or it could be a woman in a conventionally male sphere, it's a trap.
01:15:02.000It seems at first like freedom emancipation, but actually it is enslavement.
01:15:07.000I agree on a lot, but I disagreed on one thing.
01:15:10.000I don't think it's related to anarchy.
01:15:12.000I think it's related to centralization, especially when it comes to things like the ESG score that has been pushing a lot of these social norms onto people.
01:15:20.000I think, you know, the industrialists, the governments, especially with the policies they put forward, the initiatives that they put forward, and what they do, and what they incentivize, truly has been leading to a society that is creating more slaves and the state having more power.
01:15:34.000There's a centralizing tendency in matriarchies because they're trying to recreate the patriarchy that's let them down.
01:15:40.000They're trying to recreate the patriarchy that failed them by disappearing, right?
01:15:48.000So they're trying to recreate it except they don't know how because they don't have the tools, right?
01:15:53.000The reason Satan rebels and becomes Lucifer Is that he is driven mad by jealousy, because God gives women a gift that angels don't have.
01:16:07.000And it's the gift of co-procreation with God, right?
01:16:11.000When you, within the holy sacrament of marriage, are blessed with a child, you don't just create a child with your husband, but you are co-creating with God, because while you produce the biological matter, God imbues that child with an immortal soul.
01:16:24.000So, in that sacrament, husband and wife are engaging in the act of creation alongside their almighty father.
01:16:32.000Like, we could talk about it forever, but the angels didn't get that.
01:16:40.000And driven mad by jealousy and rage at what he saw as the sort of preferred younger sibling.
01:16:47.000This is the basis for the rebellion, right?
01:16:51.000That should frame our understanding when we talk about this.
01:16:55.000It's not that we think that women are stupid or incompetent.
01:16:58.000Clearly they can manage perfectly well in these spheres.
01:17:01.000Whether the effect is good or not is another matter, but clearly they can handle it.
01:17:08.000But it's allowing, encouraging them or enticing them to do so as big business does because it's good for the bottom line.
01:17:17.000It's only possible when you set to one side the reality of the magic and responsibility and incredible gift that women have that we don't.
01:17:29.000I thought that was really, I guess, inspiring what you said about society kind of becoming overly mothered because women aren't having enough children and so they're turning their motherly instinct outward.
01:17:58.000We talked about this because there was a story we read.
01:18:01.000And I mentioned that there are some women, not all, not most, but there are some women we see posting on things like Tinder, that they wish they just were able to have families and didn't have to have careers.
01:18:14.000And the Young Turks took that and turned it into Tim Pool thinks old women or some like Tim Pool's ridiculous argument about women.
01:18:21.000It's fascinating that you can't even acknowledge that some women feel that way.
01:18:26.000There's a counterintuitive but inescapably true fact, which is that the freer women have gotten, the more miserable they have become.
01:18:40.000In Sweden, where women have more equal access, the gender differences are actually more pronounced.
01:18:45.000Yes, because people are so desperate for them.
01:18:50.000You can neatly trace the history of women's emancipation and it tacks directly on to how women report their own increasing misery.
01:19:02.000And also the antidepressant use, and also Big Pharma tablets, SSRIs, and antidepressants, which have gone up with that unsatisfaction.
01:19:09.000One in ten Americans on antidepressants, half of all Democrat women, so they've been to the doctor for mental health problems, you know, that's not normal, and it doesn't happen elsewhere in the world.
01:19:25.000And yes, and this is, well, the pharmaceutical model of mental health Is only capable of treating symptoms it can't fix what's wrong with you because it doesn't account for the existence of a soul at all It treats the body as a purely mechanical Machine as a machine and if only we could find out which bit needs more oil or which bit is needs replacing We can fix your depression.
01:19:53.000Well, that's not the nature of depression.
01:19:54.000I That's not the nature of most mental illnesses.
01:19:58.000We just recently discovered, finally, that the psychiatric industry admitted that there is no basis for the accepted wisdom that depression is a chemical imbalance.
01:20:27.000But the current system is totally incapable of healing.
01:20:33.000It's only capable of… Dealing with the symptoms.
01:20:37.000…placating in a way that produces new and worse problems like addictions.
01:20:41.000I mean, the range of temptations that are available… So, we don't understand addiction very well because we don't understand the brain very well, but the one thing we do know is the main difference between people who relapse and people who don't is, is it available?
01:21:00.000So people who stay away from, you know, from the junky hangouts and all the rest of it, it's not in front of them so they're less likely to relapse.
01:21:09.000That's the one thing we do know about it, right?
01:21:12.000We are force-fed, I mean this country force-feeds people with...
01:21:18.000A bewildering array of potential addictions, whether it's to compound interest or competitive sort of consumer purchases, TVs, cars.
01:21:33.000I've never bought a car In any way other than outright and in cash.
01:21:39.000And in this country, people burn money jumping from car to car, like saying goodbye to 20 grand each time, and making endless repayments that will never be fully paid down.
01:21:50.000I mean, your whole life is enslaved to interest, to people who don't do anything for the money they make, which is usury, which is a sin.
01:22:00.000You know, people who are entirely parasitic.
01:22:02.000I mean the basis of value in the economy is human labor, right?
01:22:10.000These industries that are designed to profit without effort.
01:22:16.000There's a reason that the church, you know, Regardless, this is sinister and sinful because it is.
01:22:21.000And the manner in which we are presented, I mean, you know, I think that mostly what people said about video games in the 80s and 90s was stupid.
01:22:31.000And what people said about Marilyn Manson was like pretty stupid.
01:22:34.000But the religious right was pretty bang on about everything else.
01:22:37.000Now, however, when you consider as part of the overall kind of junk food, drink, prescription drugs.
01:22:46.000I can't, it's a wonder that, I mean, I think every American basically has two of the ten categories that they're wrestling with, you know?
01:23:02.000In just the same way that many of these cultural problems have come from women's suffrage, the failure of institutions to protect people is a result of American independence because When you throw away the monarch, you don't really just get rid of him.
01:23:21.000You make space for something else to move in.
01:23:24.000And you might not have control over that.
01:23:26.000So America is now in a position where they are ruled more brutally and more savagely and more abusively than any monarch in living memory anywhere in the world.
01:23:34.000But they don't know the names of the people who are doing it to them.
01:23:37.000It's the central banks, it's the Federal Reserve, that's for sure.
01:24:05.000I'll probably take a minority view on this.
01:24:07.000When we think about how the earthly order should reflect the heavenly order, that's the sort of basis of legitimacy of the papacy and the monarchy, right?
01:24:18.000The way that societies are ordered reflects the heavenly order and conforms to nature and our nature, the way that we were designed, the way that we work.
01:24:30.000And those are the best and happiest systems to live under.
01:24:36.000The removal of the monarch from the top and then these kind of weird self-sabotaging things like, we're just going to trust that everybody's going to be Christian.
01:24:47.000So we'll outsource morality to Christianity and we'll give people these extraordinary freedoms that don't exist anywhere else that wreck society unless the whole population is Christian, right?
01:24:56.000You cannot give people the First and Second Amendment unless they're Christian.
01:25:00.000Because only with that kind of incredible reverence for the sanctity of life can you trust people with weapons of war.
01:25:08.000And only with the responsibility that comes with knowing that you have to go to confession for lying can you be trusted with freedom to say anything without consequence.
01:25:16.000I agree with your statement on second.
01:25:18.000I think that the founding father's perspective on society dictated their view of why everyone should be armed.
01:25:26.000They all thought each other had some fear of doing wrong.
01:25:30.000I just don't think they anticipated that the society would become godless.
01:25:34.000I think, you know, we're talking about 1700s, right?
01:25:37.000I mean, you're living in the wake of the King James Bible, which changes everything.
01:25:46.000Because it's, you know, people sometimes try to like demean it by saying it's the greatest work of literature in history which is, you know, true but stop.
01:25:58.000The way that America's founding documents are phrased and the way that the founders spoke is heavily, heavily influenced to the point of dictated by the language and the style of the King James Bible which came out in the early 1600s, right?
01:26:12.000So, when this country is founded in the wake of this extraordinary moment, unique in the history of ideas, where one book changes everything and defines everything that follows it.
01:26:29.000I mean, when they enshrined freedom of religion, they were thinking about just, like, making sure that Protestant denominations weren't at each other's throats.
01:26:37.000They weren't intending for Ilhan Omar to come in and say some people did some thing, and for her to be sitting in Congress, allegedly from a family involved in very ugly things in her home country of Somalia.
01:26:50.000She couldn't possibly have sought election in this country for virtuous reasons.
01:26:56.000I can't imagine what they would have been.
01:27:25.000Because those understandings of the proper places and roles and functions of things aren't in the law anywhere.
01:27:32.000They exist in common law and in tradition and in custom in Europe, but this break, this rupture that happens with the sedition and getting rid of the king resets the clock in America and there's none of those things to draw on.
01:27:46.000And just trusting that people are going to stay Christian and therefore be nice to each other was stupid.
01:27:52.000One thing I don't necessarily agree with is that there's a statement, you know, we're made in the image of God, the universe is like, we're like fractals of reality, so like there's one God, hence one monarch, and that is natural.
01:28:03.000I don't know any Christians who talk about fractals of reality.
01:28:05.000Oh, it's just scientific, you know, observations.
01:28:24.000Well, what I'm thinking is... You see, everybody thinks that they have this extraordinary unique experience that turns them into a genius, but they all sound exactly the same.
01:28:32.000Okay, oh, so there's one God that I agree that there is in one sense one overarching magnetic field or whatever the hell God is but then there's also within that it can be broken down to do infinite gods all Infinite fields creating one mega field so in that sense we could have one king or we could have a decentralized system of many many local leaders and I think you've broken your brain.
01:28:54.000Well, it's two ways of looking at one thing.
01:28:59.000What LSD does in creating those new connections in the brain which produce the, you know, moments of inspiration is it disorders the established pathways.
01:29:10.000And while it's thrilling and exciting and can make people sound very interesting, it also gets in the way of critical thinking because your There's a sort of – people have done a lot of LSD.
01:29:26.000They have this infatuation with this way they see the world now.
01:29:28.000They think they've got this insight that nobody else has into the nature of reality when actually they're just confused by a bunch of things being stuck together.
01:29:47.000There are things that I'm happy to trust that I shouldn't try.
01:29:52.000That's another thing about women's suffrage.
01:29:56.000It's a kind of violation of the innocence of women that men are so attracted to.
01:30:00.000I mean the soil that nourishes that protective instinct is the purity and innocence of young women who are unsullied by the ugliness of the world.
01:30:11.000And men can go out and be reckless and wreck their brains and make terrible mistakes and all the rest of it, but when you inject women into a sphere that that they're not created to flourish in.
01:30:29.000It does something inexcusable to them.
01:30:31.000It is an imposition on them that I think that we owe them an enormous apology for, and we should try to set it right.
01:30:39.000What you said earlier I found very interesting, but I would even, in some instances, go even further, because you talked about godlessness.
01:30:46.000I would say there's even elements of just pure Satanism.
01:30:48.000In our society, in our establishment, especially when you look at people like Jeffrey Epstein, when you look at all the celebrities, when you look at all the occult stuff.
01:30:55.000The rappers are doing satanic rituals on stage.
01:31:02.000Lady Gaga leaves a bathtub of blood in her hotel room, but that's a whole other topic before even getting there.
01:31:08.000But also, I want to talk about what you said about institutions, because you said institutions aren't protecting people.
01:31:13.000I would even go as far as to say that the institutions are attacking people, especially when it comes to their way of life, especially what they incentivize.
01:31:20.000And I think it's the institutions that are a problem.
01:31:59.000And I want America to succeed and to win, and it would have done so better as a member of the Commonwealth in good standing.
01:32:10.000It might not have had some of the remarkable financial successes such as they are, but I can't really imagine in 500 years people are going to be discussing the real housewives of Atlanta.
01:32:27.000I don't know that the lasting legacy of America is going to be particularly valuable compared to other empires that have been as grand, as rich and as long-lasting.
01:32:39.000Somebody wrote an essay, I forget now because I'm old, but one of your viewers will know I'm sure.
01:32:45.000About polarity and the fact that for a long time we lived in a unipolar world, right?
01:32:51.000Where America was kind of the tentpole.
01:32:54.000I think the effect of that has been unquestionably damaging and destructive.
01:33:00.000And it might not be such a bad thing for us to return to a multipolar world with multiple perhaps competing superpowers.
01:33:09.000Well, there are other visions of what a good life looks like.
01:33:13.000I mean, Putin is obviously, personally, a deeply unpleasant and maybe even hideously evil person, depending on how much you believe of what he's supposed to have done.
01:33:23.000But there's something very exciting about the way he talks about cultural issues.
01:33:27.000And it's wounding when he is savage about the failures of the West because he's right about so much of it.
01:33:34.000And it's easy to do from there and, you know, there's all kinds of horrors in Russia.
01:33:38.000I mean, you can't even get your mail delivered without bribing the mailman.
01:33:40.000I mean, it's like practically that bad.
01:33:42.000I mean, Russia is not really a functioning society without, you know, it's like Greece really.
01:33:47.000I mean, anything done at all, you need a lot of cash.
01:33:50.000It's, you know, it's all kinds of problems.
01:33:55.000I think something that Russia has preserved that the West hasn't is the high standard of public discourse, the tone of which is like typically set by the Prime Minister, the President, the Monarch.
01:34:10.000When Vladimir Putin speaks to the Russian people, he does so in grand historical terms that nobody in the West has done for 50 years or more.
01:34:19.000When you compare it to the witless prattle of most American presidents in that time, the pathetic pandering of most European leaders, We have become captives of this feminized discourse that treats everybody.
01:34:42.000What is the reason for the nannying culture?
01:34:44.000This intrusive, invasive, and destructive thing?
01:34:51.000It's the feminization of culture that seeks to control what everybody says and everybody does not want to say.
01:34:56.000That's, you know, the primary problem in America is not race, it's between the sexes, because the sexes have completely failed to fulfill their promise and their obligations.
01:35:06.000Men and women now alike, admittedly, probably, original sin being the men's, you know, a failure of duty.
01:35:13.000But men and women are now completely failing to perform their rightful functions.
01:35:17.000And so in a globalized information economy where words are powerful, well, that's the arena of women, you know, words are a woman's weapon.
01:35:25.000So women wield this kind of like outsized influence and ability in social media and all the rest of it.
01:35:31.000So these become very, very heavily policed, very feminine places really fast.
01:35:37.000Because, I mean, you know, the way that men typically settle things, I can't talk about in the podcast, but it's a bit different.
01:35:43.000Or at least there's a kind of bubbling, underlying, ever-present threat of something else when men are talking, you know?
01:35:52.000But women use language very differently and that's what we see now, how everybody talks now.
01:35:56.000I'm so struck by The way that, you know, Matthew Arnold said that everybody, no matter where they come from, working class, living in a trailer, they deserve to be exposed to the very best that has been thought and written.
01:36:20.000If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and become a member at TimCast.com, because we're gonna have the Uncensored show coming up at about 11pm, and I imagine you're not going to want to miss it.
01:38:47.000Because if it's just part of the ordinary pattern and you know that you have been actively betrayed by people that you place in power to look after you, you have a justified grievance.
01:38:58.000Offense and outrage are not dirty words.
01:39:00.000They have been systematically misused by bad people for a long time.
01:39:03.000But when you have a valid grievance, it is right and proper to feel aggrieved.
01:39:09.000And I don't think people are crying about it.
01:39:21.000Even though the Eagles win by three, you still feel like you didn't win, even though the Eagles won.
01:39:25.000The difference is that in our model, all the games are fixed and the coach promised you they'd do 16.
01:39:31.000That's what we're living in, you know?
01:39:34.000In the Mafia version of the sport, the outcome is predetermined, and you've been promised an outcome, and you've placed a bet on the basis of that outcome.
01:39:41.000If that outcome doesn't happen, you have been betrayed, and you are right to feel angry, and you are right to seek vengeance.
01:39:46.000All right, we got Rusta who says, Love the show!
01:39:49.000Was wondering your thoughts on the theory of companies such as Ford, Chevy, and other car manufacturers pulling Twitter ads in order to hurt Tesla, as Elon used it as collateral in his purchase of Twitter.
01:39:59.000I think it's nice that Elon Musk is doing a real business instead of some, you know, sort of outreach of the state.
01:40:08.000I mean all of his previous businesses have been... It is still outreach of the state.
01:40:15.000The government runs numerous bot accounts for public manipulation, and he's now... You're right, it is.
01:40:21.000But specifically in the financial... He's always had enormous publicly funded cushions.
01:40:31.000Although, to be fair, Tesla doesn't have them, while other EV manufacturers do, because Tesla's... Carbon selling.
01:40:38.000Yeah, the situation is more complicated than I'm suggesting now, and he doesn't get a lot of benefits that other people do, but he would never have got any of those businesses off the ground without being, you know, effectively a colossal welfare queen.
01:40:53.000But I think it's audacious and brave and self-sacrificing, and I think that's what people admire about this, is that it has cost him something to do this.
01:41:04.000That's why people like Trump too, and it's another reason that DeSantis can't beat him.
01:41:08.000Because he's having hundreds of millions of dollars poured into his coffers by the worst people in the world.
01:41:14.000Meanwhile, Trump's life is irrevocably wrecked by the sacrifice that he made to become president.
01:41:46.000I don't know if I think I would be profoundly miserable trying to operate in this environment, so you will have to see me now and again in controlled contexts and dream about what it might have been like.
01:42:02.000Or check out the Uncensored show after the live portion.
01:42:05.000Oscar says, Milo, I started being political thanks to you, and hearing you speak again makes me understand why I loved watching you.
01:42:11.000You summed up how I felt 100% to the T with your commentary just now on this.
01:42:16.000They won't all be compliments, will they?
01:43:05.000Alright, Kyle Miller says, as someone who voted for Trump twice, I think it is time to move on.
01:43:09.000Mainstream media has tainted his image and now toxic to voters, DeSantis 2024.
01:43:14.000His favorability is the same as Hillary Clinton in some polls.
01:43:17.000It saddens me to see people with lack of faith like that.
01:43:24.000I think if you loved Trump, you should remind yourself of why and consider how much you really care about Trump's name being toxified by the media.
01:43:34.000Sounds like you have capitulated to the enemy narratives and accepted Criticisms of Trump actually don't matter at all.
01:43:43.000All that matters about Trump is if people love him and vote for him, he will be president.
01:43:48.000It doesn't matter what the New York Times thinks about him.
01:43:51.000I think legitimate criticisms matter because they can make him better and I think he should have his feet held to the fire for doing so many wrong things.
01:43:57.000Your closest friends should be your harshest critics.
01:44:07.000If you abandon the one person who imperfectly, and perhaps disappointingly, at least tried to break up the abusive stitch-up that is the prevailing American hegemony, sounds like you've got the country you deserve, mate.
01:44:29.000P. Scully says, I'm a one-issue voter, avoiding World War III.
01:44:33.000Trump is the only politician I am certain would tell NATO to F off.
01:44:36.000The establishment lining up around DeSantis wouldn't do so if he has a hard line with regards to Ukraine.
01:44:42.000DeSantis will declare war on someone on day one.
01:44:45.000He is enabled and funded and supported by all the same old people who have done this time and again.
01:44:55.000Trump is the only president in living memory who didn't start a new war.
01:44:59.000There are things that I'm really intensely disappointed with about Trump, but one that I can say in an uncomplicated way, I'm delighted with, Is that he did not initiate more widespread needless human suffering for the benefit not of some nebulous American democratic project, but really to enrich Walmart.
01:45:24.000You know, dropping bombs on Riyadh so that people can drop oxy back home.
01:45:30.000Not buying into the fiction and corruption of this theater that we're presented with, this illusion that we're sold, and refusing to start a new war is maybe the best thing and the most Christian thing and the most important thing he did.
01:45:43.000But what he did to Yemen, I think, was absolutely disgusting.
01:45:49.000He was a part of the Saudi coalition that was bombing Saudi Arabia, that was bombing, excuse me, Yemen in favor of the, against the Houthi rebels working with al-Qaeda.
01:46:00.000Stephen Bachmeier says, Milo is a good hype man, but not a good convincer of those of us unconvinced of Trump.
01:46:06.000I'm convinced Milo is paid to talk up Trump.
01:46:09.000The irony of what he's saying about DeSantis supporters.
01:46:13.000So it's been discovered that people who have a standard deviation difference in IQ are effectively not really able to communicate with one another.
01:47:15.000I was calling for him too, like weeks ago.
01:47:17.000Listen, I think America could do with taking itself just a little bit less seriously sometimes.
01:47:23.000And these kind of elaborate codes of behavior that remind me of, you know, Versailles under the Louis, of all these people orbiting power except there's nothing in the middle of it.
01:47:34.000You know, at least under monarchies, people were competing for the favor of the king.
01:47:49.000Well, who do you think would be the Democratic nominee?
01:47:50.000So what I was going to say is, you know, the Senate is a sinister and boring place full of sinister and boring people.
01:47:58.000It should, I think, reinvent itself more along the lines of the upper houses that it was founded to imitate and be full of quirky eccentrics who, together, In a messy way, you know, approximate the mood and the spirit of the nation, and together kind of safeguard against un-American laws, you know, from a variety of different quirky perspectives.
01:48:21.000I think Fetterman's going to be harmless, and I find him adorable.
01:48:25.000And frankly, I think the more people with mental shortcomings in the Senate, the better, because less harm they can do.
01:48:36.000So what you're saying is Pete Buttigieg 2024.
01:48:39.000No, he's a different kind of... Biden-Fetterman 2024.
01:48:45.000Buttigieg is a particular kind of problem because he's somebody, very average intelligence, who cannot be persuaded that he isn't a genius.
01:48:55.000And those people are very dangerous because they are beyond the reach of reality and reason.
01:49:02.000They're convinced of their own special place in history.
01:49:06.000And, you know, I hope that he will go down as a joke and a footnote and it looks like that's the case.
01:49:14.000But people who are maybe even, you know, not entirely there because they've gone through something awful or they've had some kind of, you know, catastrophic brain injury or whatever.
01:49:25.000I don't mind the idea of a quirky committee of national treasures who somehow kind of coalesce and protect the country against itself, because although they're all wacky and weird and peculiar, somehow the sum total of them safeguards what America is.
01:49:44.000That's what the House of Lords was always supposed to be in Britain.
01:50:07.000Ian King says, Tim, just bought your song.
01:50:09.000Would love to see you do something with independent artists like Adam Calhoun, Ryan Upchurch, or Tom MacDonald, as well as see them on the podcast.
01:51:15.000I like how you pointed out that you thought DeSantis has low charisma, because if he was a D&D character, I think he has like average charisma.
01:51:44.000I think we've moved past the period of debate and the mask of manners, and I think we're in shut-up-stupid-you-know-what territory in culture at the moment.
01:52:24.000And if you have allowed despair and the demoralization techniques
01:52:31.000that you are being pummeled with to...
01:52:35.000except a lesser substitute that cannot possibly hope to fix the deep spiritual crisis that this country is in, then I'm sorry for you, but you're part of the problem, so you should just get out of the way.
01:53:51.000When we go to the movie theater, and we drench ourselves in fat, salt, and sugar,
01:53:59.000and stare at an electric light on the wall, We are hypnotizing ourself and the closest thing that our society has to a sort of pagan ritual.
01:54:39.000And growing up in Europe, and I was surrounded by, you know, West Indian Africans, Jamaicans, and, you know, Nigerians.
01:54:45.000I've been to Africa, as most of the fans of that movie haven't.
01:54:48.000Um, and so I was able to, you know, appreciate a lot of, um, what they were seeking to accomplish in this, in this, you know, I noticed about that film, it didn't do the easy and obvious things, right?
01:55:01.000It was very distinctively African, which was a big risk because American blacks don't know anything about African culture and Africans are very,
01:55:10.000they have some real choice opinions about American people.
01:56:22.000I think that the shootings, I think your impression of the frequency of shootings, I mean everybody seems to notice they're sort of happening a bit more often.
01:56:30.000The press just reports selectively as per their priorities on any given day.
01:56:35.000I mean if I had to guess I would imagine that they're getting more frequent.
01:56:41.000There's definitely a pharmaceutical component to that.
01:56:45.000You know, there are some systemic root causes that all come back to the things we've been talking about.
01:58:06.000I bet that she was the happiest woman in the world.
01:58:08.000And you'd be amazed at how many grandmothers, and it's specifically grandmothers who have the benefit of wisdom and are seeing secondary generations, right?
01:58:19.000You'd be amazed how many grandmothers write to me and say you're absolutely right.
01:58:23.000Do you think there's going to be a reckoning where these childless millennial women are 70 years old without families, that they're going to... I'm trying to be upset.
01:58:32.000I'm going to try to persuade Marjorie to introduce a friend in need is a friend indeed act that removes the vote from people who are on antidepressant drugs.
01:58:42.000Just sit back and enjoy the fallout, you know, half a Democrat base.
01:58:46.000I don't want to incriminate her in that, there's no way she'll ever do that.
01:58:50.000But I would pass a law that says that to care for the most vulnerable in our society we don't want to expose them to traumatic, stressful and triggering events like the high pressure environment of voting in elections.
01:59:08.000Aren't you on anti-anxiety medication?
01:59:10.000So if you are one of those people and you've had a prescription for anxiety or depression medication in the last 12 months, we're going to ask you to sit this election out.
01:59:21.000Maury says, this episode is too based.
01:59:23.000The amount of red-pilled truths being spoken here is insane.
01:59:26.000There's a handful of people who are like, wow, Tim, Ian, and Luke aren't talking.
01:59:30.000And there's two things I'll say to that.
01:59:32.000One, what Milo was saying was interesting to hear your thoughts articulated as they were.
01:59:36.000But also, it's been a while since people have heard from you and to hear your stance on things.
01:59:44.000It's been a long time since you've spoken, and here you are speaking for quite a bit, explaining a lot of what you've seen over the past few years.
01:59:49.000It feels like you've got to get a lot off your chest, and you haven't talked in how long?
01:59:52.000Oh, I'm also just very rude, and I just bang on forever.
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02:01:59.000I just want to make sure... See what they've done to you?
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