On this week's show, we discuss the latest in censorship, censorship, and the culture war. We also hear from Gene Hamilton, VP of General Counsel of America First Legal and Counsel to the First Lady of America, Kathleen Kennedy.
00:01:42.000Uh, a producer from Tucker Carlson is coming out, slamming the network because they just nuked the remaining producers from Tucker Carlson.
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00:03:32.000Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Gene Hamilton.
00:03:38.000I am Vice President, General Counsel of America First Legal.
00:03:42.000And we, we're here to fight for the common person for the American for true traditional American values.
00:03:49.000So we represent clients in court, we do all kinds of things to oversight, public attention to things, government overreach, excesses, private corporations, the like.
00:04:03.000All of the stuff that we're seeing all over the place, we want to be right in, and we're doing our best right now to get all of it.
00:04:08.000And there is big news coming this week, you were mentioning, with the Supreme Court and affirmative action, so that'll be really interesting to see.
00:04:14.000Maybe we'll get into that later in the show.
00:05:18.000No, the big news is from the Daily Caller.
00:05:20.000Top Anheuser-Busch marketing executives behind Boycott are no longer employed.
00:05:25.000The top two Anheuser-Busch marketing executives who were placed on leave amid the company shakeup no longer work for the brand.
00:05:30.000A source inside Anheuser-Busch confirmed in texts obtained by the Daily Caller on Tuesday.
00:05:36.000Group vice president for marketing Daniel Blake To my understanding, if we publicly announce the word fire, it opens up the potential for them to sue us.
00:05:43.000to obtain tax messages with the current regional head of marketing.
00:05:46.000The caller is granting anonymity to the source to discuss lengthy, fraught internal company
00:06:29.000What we thought was going to happen, there's a hubbub, some bubble up in the press, after a couple days or a week sales return to normal, the boycott falters, they announce they're coming back from their leap of evidence, or just don't announce anything, and they just slide back into their positions, and everything resumes, and they keep on keeping on.
00:06:48.000What happened so far is that three months on, Bud Light sales continue to get worse, and now they've officially terminated these individuals.
00:06:57.000Starbucks just had a strike last week because they're telling people to take down pride decorations.
00:07:01.000Target's stock value is collapsing, and a bunch of other brands are reeling because, ladies and gentlemen, Get Woke, Go Broke is becoming more and more powerful.
00:08:36.000So they're like, do whatever you want, live and let live.
00:08:38.000Then these books come out, come in these schools.
00:08:40.000Now they see it and they associate all of it with each other.
00:08:44.000That's why now when Bud Light, it's not just this even, Bud Light sponsoring Toronto Pride, where you've got naked men, you know, gyrating in front of children, so people see that and they're just like, all of it, gone, don't want it, no, sorry, bye bye.
00:08:56.000I agree with you that the grooming and all of the perversity that's come into the limelight in a way that it wasn't before is also factoring into people's decision to boycott, but I would say that People have traditionally and historically still been off-put by seeing a man in a dress.
00:09:12.000I would say that that was the case all the way up until now.
00:09:58.000I guess my main point is just that, through that period where people were tolerating it, it wasn't because they didn't find it off-putting, they were just willing to allow it to happen somewhere else.
00:10:37.000I just don't know, because that's how far out they are.
00:10:43.000And for most mainstream corporations, families especially, touching on exactly the issue that you just mentioned, which is people don't want this stuff shoved in their face.
00:11:26.000So when Bud Light became political, In this particular way, people were just like, nope, not buying it, and I think it's because it's now affecting them.
00:11:36.000Ben & Jerry's does a lot of political stuff, but let's be real, a guy walking into a gas station for some cookie dough ice cream doesn't care if it's Haagen-Dazs or Ben & Jerry's.
00:11:43.000Maybe he likes Ben & Jerry's because it's got bigger cookie dough chunks.
00:11:54.000This just crossed my mind, but I think a big mistake that Bud Light made, Anheuser-Busch, is Dylan's not really... I mean, I'm not going to claim if he's trans or not, but he's an actor, and he's doing camp.
00:12:05.000He's spoken outward that he's making fun of the whole process.
00:13:18.000And you know, we had that leftist guest on Friday, Phil Labonte, the other night was saying her whole thing was literally just whatever Tim says, we're gonna say the opposite.
00:13:38.000Yeah, I mean, we're... I don't make the same distinction that you guys do.
00:13:41.000I view all of this the same way, but I'm curious about how the transgender community or people who identify as transgender have responded to Dylan prior to the public backlash.
00:13:51.000Well, look, there are prominent personalities who are trans who speak out against these people.
00:13:58.000And there is, among transgender people, there's a left and a right as well.
00:14:02.000So, I don't think you can hit it all with one broad brushstroke, you know what I mean?
00:14:08.000Bill Mulvaney clearly is a unique character that is putting on a performance and has even said this.
00:14:15.000Dylan Mulvaney did not come out and say they weren't trans, but did say they wanted to move beyond being identified as a trans person.
00:14:22.000No, I don't disagree with you guys at all that Dylan is a particularly obnoxious example, and I don't disagree that people who identify as trans have a wide variety of political views.
00:14:33.000Where I'm saying I don't draw the distinction is I think all of it's insulting to women.
00:14:36.000I think all of it is a caricature of womanhood.
00:14:38.000Oh yeah, no, I'm saying that Dylan's insulting trans people on top of it.
00:14:42.000You know, you can take a look at many... Look, I'll shout out Blaire White and I'll shout out ContraPoints.
00:14:50.000I guess Blaire is considered conservative, I don't know where Blaire stands, and ContraPoints is considered liberal.
00:14:55.000They're both serious people, you can disagree with them, you can have arguments around their ideologies or the way they live their lives, but they're both serious people who present arguments.
00:15:05.000Dylan Mulvaney puts high heels on in the woods, runs around, and then sings about having a bulge, which just demeans and insults trans people.
00:15:15.000for it. So that makes me think that maybe Gene, you were onto
00:15:19.000something that if companies were to go with, you know, utilizing
00:15:22.000transgenderism as a marketing tactic, but not going for the campy clownish people as their as their spokespeople, and
00:15:30.000they actually find like genuinely, you know, trans people that
00:15:34.000are like, maybe they've been suffering or whatever. And they
00:15:36.000want to elevate that community somehow I could see that actually not be destroying a company maybe actually helping.
00:15:41.000I mean, I just go back to the RuPaul RuPaul has a show on what
00:15:46.000year, whatever and had a show for decades.
00:15:48.000Rupaul's Drag Race Show and all these other things.
00:15:51.000And so you have these examples of this stuff happening.
00:15:55.000Where you have a base that is conditioned and acculturated to this lifestyle and to this stuff, which, with none of it, I agree with, to be clear.
00:16:26.000Okay, so somebody did do, I think someone might have done a rainbow truck, but also, to be clear, there's something about the rainbow that puts a layer of abstraction over it.
00:16:37.000I don't think there was an actual picture of somebody like Dylan Mulvaney associated with it.
00:17:56.000Yeah, no, I think that's very accurate.
00:17:59.000And this entire past Pride Month seems to have been a complete disaster for the left, which I very much enjoyed.
00:18:08.000Part of why I think this was such a massive and strategic error for Bud Light is because not only were they not selling a particularly impressive product, people aren't buying Bud Light out of a sense of brand loyalty, people aren't buying Bud Light because it's the best of the best, people are buying Bud Light because it's inexpensive and it's what they have access to.
00:18:25.000But they also have access to many other beer brands.
00:18:28.000Nobody who's drinking Bud Light is picky about the beer they're drinking, right?
00:18:31.000They could have a product that's not from Anheuser-Busch and enjoy it just as much, if not more.
00:18:36.000So what they did is they tried to force something incredibly controversial onto people with a brand that those people didn't need and had very easily accessible alternatives to.
00:19:34.000Anheuser-Busch and Envev in the past six months is down 5.72%.
00:19:37.000In the past month, they've actually recovered 3.8%.
00:19:41.000Yo, the market, often illogical, a beer company that doesn't sell beer, it gives it away for free.
00:19:48.000That's something people apparently have decided they should invest in.
00:19:51.000And so this is something, maybe some people are just trying to buy the dip, they think it's going to get better, I can't imagine anything else explaining that, but I think that there's something very Massive and catastrophic about this, and I mean catastrophic for them.
00:20:07.000Everyone's been saying this is the best example of a conservative boycott I've ever seen.
00:20:12.000This is one of the best examples of a boycott in general I've ever seen.
00:20:16.000When was the last time you saw a brand that was so heavily boycotted they started giving their product away for free?
00:20:27.000Of a business that was losing customers at such a rate that they started giving their product away for free and people still weren't taking it?
00:22:41.000Shelby Talcott tweets, Maga Mimosa, the featured drink at the NH Federation of Republican Women Lilac Luncheon, where Trump is scheduled to speak shortly.
00:23:08.000We went to an event in West Virginia, it was like a Republican speech being given, and they had a drink, you know, minibar set up, no Bud Light.
00:23:18.000And I walked up, and the guy opened the fridge, and I could see Bud Light in the fridge.
00:23:21.000And I was like, oh, I see you got Bud Light down there.
00:23:22.000He's like, yeah, we don't have it out, though, because it's like they have the stock.
00:23:25.000If someone asks for it, we'll sell to them, but nobody's gonna buy it.
00:23:28.000And I'm like, yeah, okay, so all the Anheuser-Busch products were pulled.
00:23:31.000When we did our event in Texas, we actually told the bar no Anheuser-Busch products.
00:23:37.000They can't even do that at this Republican event?
00:25:43.000If there was some definitive proof, the oracle of time, the CIA's time device, you could look into it and it was like, if all Trump supporters started drinking Bud Light right now- It's the CIA!
00:25:56.000They're only trying to get us to drink Bud Light to boost their sales!
00:25:58.000That's why they're pulling this whole prank!
00:26:00.000Trump supporters discover an alien device that can show them the future, And they see a possible future where if they all start drinking Bud Light again, Trump wins, they would.
00:26:08.000Dude, Bud Light's gonna sigh up us into thinking that this is the truth.
00:26:11.000We're like, let's kill the wake, get him re-elected.
00:26:21.000Actually, to be honest though, I think it would be the opposite.
00:26:23.000I think if conservatives actually gave in and did not boycott these brands, without a doubt Trump would lose.
00:26:30.000The fact that we're seeing so many regular people and conservatives actually sustain a boycott suggests to me there will be the ground, the possible ground force for a Trump victory.
00:26:41.000Yeah, well I think it's also just indicative of the fact that your average person isn't interested in having this nonsense forced on them.
00:26:48.000As we were discussing earlier, for a while people were okay letting these things happen far away from them where they wouldn't have to see it, but once you start putting in their face they go, you know what?
00:26:56.000If it's either you stop doing this or it gets forced on me, I choose that you stop doing it because I'm starting to feel like the whole live and let live thing was always a lie.
00:27:08.000Well, let's talk about what's causing this, because Ian actually purchased this book that's been the subject of great controversy, and I have this tweet.
00:27:16.000I looked up on Amazon, this book is gay, it's called, and Ian has purchased it right here.
00:27:21.000On the back it says, this book is for, underlined, everyone, regardless of gender or sexual preference, this book is for anyone who's ever dared to wonder.
00:27:47.000You have, for whatever reason, people on the left, either because they're overt pedophiles or because overt tribalists will We'll defend anything that the right opposes.
00:28:00.000You end up with a book like this in grade schools.
00:28:03.000There's a teacher who provided this book to her middle schoolers and they called the police on her and she was removed.
00:28:12.000A teacher provided this book to middle schoolers.
00:28:15.000The book shows pictures of sex acts, explains extremely disgusting activities that would cause serious illness.
00:28:24.000Like, okay, what people need to understand is there are activities that people engage in when it comes to adult stuff that will injure you and give you infections and diseases, and I'm talking about E. coli.
00:28:36.000And I don't want to be gross, but let's just I'm gonna have to describe it for y'all.
00:28:41.000We try to keep it family-friendly, so earmuffs for your kids.
00:28:44.000But the book describes consuming feces.
00:28:46.000Okay, you can die from things like this.
00:28:59.000I want to double check, but I'm pretty sure it talks about Yeah.
00:29:03.000Look, maybe, and also maybe I shouldn't be so surprised, right, because there's a lot of perversity associated with this particular set of life choices.
00:29:12.000I understand where, why someone might think this is a good idea, because like, okay, they're thinking kids don't have enough sexual education, we need to prep these young kids that don't have good family lives ahead of time.
00:29:59.000But then you ask her if Penthouse should be in schools and then the conversation just Changed after that like she didn't say yes, and she didn't really say no.
00:30:06.000I don't think I don't remember exactly But it's a good point.
00:30:10.000Do you want like nudie magazines and for 13 and 14 year olds to look at there's pictures of nude?
00:30:15.000There's a drawing of a naked woman right in there on like page what I don't know 188 or something like that like Explicit with arrows pointing to the different private parts and like that's a kids need to understand private parts.
00:30:25.000Those are private Those are for you if someone ever messes with your privacy and your private you tell an adult you tell your parents like that is This kind of... But I'm coming from a different generation, man.
00:30:36.000I didn't have the internet until I was like 14.
00:31:04.000And then you guys were like, well, there's a description of gay hookup apps, and someone was showing this to 10-year-olds, and she's like, why do you get these anecdotes?
00:31:13.000If a child reads this, and comes in the back, and comes to the back, that explains consuming feces, you could die.
00:31:21.000Why would Amazon think a 14 to 17 year old should be reading something like this?
00:31:26.000And they make the argument that, oh, kids have access to the internet these days.
00:31:30.000These websites are supposed to have blocks on them.
00:31:32.000You're not supposed to allow kids to be looking at this stuff.
00:31:34.000The idea that, well, no, kids can see other disgusting things in other disgusting places, so let's show them disgusting things in their school where they ideally should be safe from this kind of perversity.
00:32:48.000Also the idea that you can get away with something like that in a book that's being marketed to children by simply saying, oh you have to be 18 or up.
00:32:57.000Amazon's selling it to children as young as 14 years old.
00:32:59.000There was a teacher who was showing it to 10-year-olds.
00:33:01.000And the idea that you would give somebody a guide on how to use these hookup apps, as if it's rocket science and you need a guide to know how to log in.
00:33:08.000You're clearly directing these kids to do this.
00:33:10.000Like, you're clearly directing them to do this.
00:33:15.000And so, the main point was, Amazon says, 14 to 17-year-olds, What do you think would happen if you went to a playground with a bunch of 14-year-olds and started teaching them how to use Grindr?
00:33:31.000But when it comes to what they're doing in schools, it's all protected.
00:33:34.000And then when we ask a simple question to a leftist who comes on this show, who comes on the Culture War podcast, how hard is it for them to just be like, now I get it, those books shouldn't be in school?
00:33:47.000Instead they say, I don't believe in censorship, so allow it.
00:33:58.000It's clear that they're not interested in either free speech or combating censorship
00:34:02.000because none of them were saying that schools not being able to teach creationism meant
00:34:08.000that Christians didn't have free speech.
00:34:10.000All the arguments they're making for this perverse nonsense are arguments that they obviously didn't make in favor of people teaching their children their values about the Christian faith.
00:34:18.000They weren't saying, Kids get old enough, they're gonna learn about Christianity anyway, so we should tell them about it now.
00:34:24.000Like, that's kept as far away from public schools as possible, but guidebooks that teach children how to eat feces and use gay hookup apps are not kept away from schools for some reason, and when someone tries to keep it away from schools, we call them a tyrant.
00:34:36.000That's where our culture's at right now.
00:34:37.000Look, parents call the police on a teacher who showed this to their kids.
00:35:14.000Now you're like, how dare you show my children these things?
00:35:17.000And parents started seeing it, and now there's a backlash.
00:35:20.000I think this could be one of the Democrats' biggest weaknesses.
00:35:24.000Trump was recently at a rally, and he was like, you know, I could talk, I'm paraphrasing, but he said something like, I talk about lowering taxes, nobody cares, I talk about culture war stuff, everybody starts cheering.
00:36:03.000Who can charges be pressed against for these kinds of things?
00:36:05.000Look, I mean, there's a lot of parents who are stepping up across the country who are saying no more and doing things like, I mean, look, if you're a parent and you have a teacher showing your kids explosive material, You should, I think, and under the right circumstances, report it to law enforcement.
00:36:21.000But you also have all kinds of other ways that you can do things.
00:36:53.000And so a lot of folks are using the courts, using courts of public opinion to advance the ball and try to defend I wouldn't say even conservative values.
00:37:03.000I mean, they are conservative values, but just traditional American values, human values, things that have been understood for millennia and that now are just being tolerated.
00:39:15.000Maybe I'm wrong, and if it's happening, it shouldn't be, but What I understand about sex ed is it's like, here are the reproductive organs.
00:39:55.000That is what's making parents say, enough.
00:39:58.000Well, and also, I think this is something people fail to realize.
00:40:01.000There's a conversation I very distinctly remember having in high school.
00:40:04.000Another student said to me, while we were in our sex ed class, and they were being completely unironic, they said, how do you think people figured this stuff out before they had sex ed?
00:40:15.000And I said, People don't need to go take a class to know how to have sex.
00:40:23.000The purpose of sex ed is to tell you what not to do, right?
00:40:27.000You're going to get older, you're going to become an adult, you're going to start engaging in these activities.
00:40:32.000What's important is that when you were young, when you were developing, your parents ideally had a conversation with you about what the boundaries are and the things that you shouldn't be doing.
00:40:40.000Because you're going to figure out what you can do.
00:40:42.000I don't think it goes that... I think that's over the top.
00:40:47.000Sex Ed when I was a kid was like, here is a diagram of the male reproductive organs.
00:40:52.000Well, but when I say what not to do, by the way, I'm not saying I'm not saying like giving people details on these kinds of things and saying don't do that kids.
00:41:00.000I mean just telling them this is this is sex.
00:41:03.000It makes people and it's it's something you should do with your spouse and not with someone before you meet Your spouse.
00:41:09.000That's what I mean by what you should not do.
00:41:11.000It was there to place a restriction, to let people know, these are the things that are going to make your life more difficult if you do them.
00:41:17.000Ideally, you're going to wait until you're married, you're going to get married, you're going to have a family.
00:41:20.000Don't go fooling around outside of marriage.
00:42:50.000I'm fine with them thinking they can't.
00:42:52.000There's definitely an aspect of taking things for granted in the modern age that I don't think a lot of people understand.
00:42:58.000That if they trashed this country, what kind of lockdown could actually, like, what could be lost?
00:43:03.000By the way- The ability to walk around freely and stuff like that.
00:43:06.000Do you think that if Gavin Newsom or some governor of a left-wing state went, no fascists are welcome here, that people would be going, whoa, he's excluding people based on their politics.
00:43:54.000But yeah, I mean, I don't take it seriously, to be completely honest.
00:43:59.000But I do think that when you look at the election in Florida, when you look at, here's what Michael Malice said, our nation's growing ideological self-segregation is proceeding nicely.
00:44:26.000A decentralized federation of state authority.
00:44:29.000I mean, I think that's kind of what we're supposed to lead.
00:44:31.000That's where we were, that's where we came from.
00:44:32.000And then what happens when you have... It's one thing when California's a sanctuary state, and they let illegal immigrants, criminal immigrants, enter their state.
00:44:43.000But then, these people who enter can now easily access any other part of the country.
00:44:47.000So what happens when you're Arizona, dealing with a border crisis, and then California keeps their border open, lets people come in illegally, and then, very easily, they cross into Arizona?
00:44:58.000Okay, if this hyperpolarization keeps happening, Arizona sets up a border.
00:45:05.000And they say, we have way too many people coming in from California that we don't know if are citizens, so we're gonna do a border checkpoint, and now you gotta show your ID if you wanna get through.
00:46:09.000Some kid on TikTok sees all these videos, Finds a book like this, calls the number, meets a stranger on the internet who says, I'll drive you to Washington and get you your treatment.
00:46:20.000Effectively kidnapping the kid, bring him to Washington, and Washington says it's legal.
00:46:25.000Now what happens if you're in Montana or Wyoming?
00:46:27.000Wyoming is the number one Trump-supporting state in the country.
00:46:31.000What happens if you're from Wyoming and someone takes your kid and brings him to Washington?
00:46:36.000Now you've got a very, very serious border dispute because Washington said, oh, that guy who kidnapped your kid?
00:46:52.000You are going to get Wyoming being like, we're going to set up checkpoints to make sure people aren't kidnapping children to bring them to Washington for lewd and lascivious reasons.
00:47:57.000When we're looking at Rick Scott jokingly say socialists and commies don't come here and then the left actually gets mad because they actually are socialists and commies.
00:48:11.000Public ownership of the means of production?
00:48:13.000Yeah, so, yeah, communism is like worker ownership over the means of production and then how socialism is different from communism changes based on who you're talking to.
00:48:21.000Some say that, like, social... I think, as a general rule, when you look at how they've operated in the world, communism usually happens because of, like, some revolution or state takeover and socialism is usually voted in, but that's not actually definitive.
00:48:33.000Well, they... Some say socialism is economic and communism is political.
00:48:37.000Yeah, well, people say communism encompasses everything, right?
00:48:40.000So even your culture becomes modified by it, where socialism just refers to econ.
00:48:44.000But there are a bunch of different ways people define it, and I've heard it defined even by official sources multiple different ways.
00:48:50.000So, like, every communist state is socialist, but every socialist state is not necessarily communist?
00:48:58.000What would that be, like, state ownership is communist, but if it's just state... Communism is typically characterized by a single party controlling everything in like an authoritarian or authorocratic mean.
00:49:41.000If 70% of your income is kept by you and 30% goes to the public, that's the threshold for being a capitalist country.
00:49:47.000Anything from 70 up to 100 of the money you keep is capitalist, and then anything in between is mixed, and then 70% taxation and higher is socialist?
00:50:27.000Yeah, I think also, like, just in terms of how the word is usually understood, communism has much more baggage associated with it on the cultural question, which I think is part of why people associate it with a complete cultural takeover, and because it's also what you saw in communist states like the USSR or communist China.
00:50:47.000And so people will almost view socialism as just sort of a moderate form of communism, but that's not really an accurate way of looking at it either.
00:50:53.000We have a lot of people pointing out there already are border checkpoints.
00:50:56.000Some saying when you generally stop at state borders to pay tolls already.
00:51:01.000So those could easily be modified to stop and check your ID.
00:51:04.000Other people mentioned that there are way stations and agricultural checkpoints already between states.
00:51:08.000I'm saying it becomes like Country to country, effectively.
00:51:13.000Arizona's dealing with a mass influx of illegal immigrants.
00:51:19.000At a certain point, they might just be like, we have to control our borders.
00:51:22.000But that would be like, if someone, because there'll be vans and trucks, you need to stop the van, come around out back, open the van, look through their stuff.
00:52:48.000Well, I could just see if you have a regime that's as far to the left as the one that's in power now is, and that wants to push for this mutilation of children, I can imagine them saying, no, you can't tell someone they're not able to pass through your state in order to get their quote-unquote gender-affirming care.
00:53:01.000To be fair, there's one federal highway, one big, it's I-90.
00:53:32.000So, if you got to the point where Washington- there actually was an issue of kids being trafficked into Washington for child sex changes, And states like Idaho were like, no way.
00:53:43.000I mean, actually, let's use Idaho as an example.
00:54:27.000There's probably many smaller ones, but there are ten main roads, one main interstate highway, and then I think a couple state highways, and I counted on the map, zooming in, even to the small ones, it looks like it's about ten.
00:54:37.000So, I'm not saying, I know for a fact it will happen, I'm saying if this is the path, we head down.
00:57:46.000Simpsons bear patrol, you guys remember that?
00:57:48.000A bear one day wanders through Springfield, so they all panic and demand a bear patrol and get it.
00:57:53.000It doesn't matter what you think they need to do, need is immaterial.
00:57:57.000If enough people say, You know, I had a girlfriend, she got pregnant, and then she crossed the border to get an abortion, and now my son is dead, was killed, or my daughter was killed, they will just vote, and the state will do it, and sure, you could argue it's ineffective, that's not the point.
00:58:13.000The point is, people will say it, and it will have to happen.
00:58:16.000You cannot have two states, side by side, where one has totally banned abortion, and one has totally unrestricted abortion.
00:59:13.000A state prosecutor will find something on the books, show me the man, show me the crime.
00:59:17.000My point is, if Oklahoma says it is illegal, and a woman traffics an unborn baby for the purpose of terminating its life, they will say, they will treat it as if it's murder, period.
00:59:28.000Yeah, but the purpose is unknown, that's the point that I'm making.
00:59:34.000This is the purpose of an indictment and a criminal trial.
00:59:37.000So, you can't make the argument that you drove the car at a high speed, crashed into a person, and they died, and say, well, I mean, you could certainly make the argument.
00:59:46.000They'll be like, we don't know exactly why they did it.
01:00:40.000But I think most people would argue it's not worse than doing nothing.
01:00:43.000Because you'll get a lot of people in Oklahoma who are like, we need to go get an abortion, and the cops are going to be at the border and they're going to be like, I can't do this.
01:01:02.000Now, I don't think Oklahoma criminalizes the woman, though.
01:01:06.000They criminalize the practice, so I think the doctor's the one who gets in trouble.
01:01:11.000What you need to understand is, I am not talking about... The world is not a machine.
01:01:17.000Human civilization is not a machine that functions on logic.
01:01:21.000I love this idea when it comes to business contracts.
01:01:24.000I hear all the time from people who don't know how to run businesses, and they seem to think, I can't remember what movie I was watching.
01:01:31.000It was like someone had a contract with a company and then their whole company got seized or something happened and they were like, this is absurd.
01:01:40.000How could our company be taken over this way?
01:01:42.000And then they went to the court and the judge was like, I'm sorry, it's right here in the contract.
01:05:40.000So when Trump says, I could have declassified them or should have declassified them, is that an admission that he didn't declassify them properly and is that going to be held against him?
01:05:49.000Well, look, I think that one of the things that we're all missing is the context of these papers that you can hear in the background.
01:05:53.000What is it that he's actually looking at?
01:05:55.000And what is he actually flipping through, right?
01:05:58.000I mean, is he flipping through some kind of a description?
01:06:02.000Is he flipping through some kind of a picture?
01:06:06.000I mean, we don't know what was actually in front of them.
01:06:09.000But I think one of the things that matters here is what Tim just pointed out, which is Donald Trump was the President of the United States.
01:06:15.000Hillary Clinton was only the Secretary of State.
01:06:18.000You know Joe Biden the records that he's talking about are records. He got as vice president or
01:06:23.000Previously as a senator right and so classified documents are controlled by the president of the United States
01:06:30.000documents are only classified secret top-secret confidential because of an executive
01:06:36.000order from the president of the United States all classification authority derives from the president with
01:06:42.000one limited exception set by Congress about atomic Atomic energy related documents and in so you have this
01:06:49.000whole kind of that That's one angle and a lot of people have been talking
01:06:52.000about that But one of the things that I think is an interesting
01:06:55.000thought that I hope folks start to think through Is you have all this discussion right now about oh
01:07:01.000My goodness President Trump violated the Presidential Records Act and those weren't his documents and he couldn't
01:07:08.000have those documents Those are the people's documents.
01:07:12.000For me, from coming from a first principles standpoint, under the Constitution, The Congress of the United States has no authority to tell the President of the United States which papers are his and which papers aren't.
01:07:28.000That is ultimately, under the Constitution, the President of the United States has to have that power to decide which documents are his.
01:07:37.000And so if he has that power, then how can he, and then he takes those documents with him, which is the standard practice of Presidents, for almost 200 years.
01:07:45.000George Washington took his papers with him after he left office, and it was actually the subject of a court case later on down the line.
01:07:55.000So how is it now that we fast forward and Congress passes this Presidential Records Act in 1978, Jimmy Carter signs into law and says, oh, well, these are all The people's records and the president no longer has, you know, kind of an ultimate say so.
01:08:08.000The president possesses the documents from the first instance and has that absolute authority to do so.
01:08:15.000Then how can he be prosecuted under the Espionage Act for unlawful possession of these documents?
01:08:24.000First, we're gonna find out in a week or so that there's something more to this video where, like, right after this clip, Trump goes, I mean, these aren't actually any of the real documents.
01:09:07.000The papers were in a different place the whole time.
01:09:09.000You can't see anything, you can't hear anything.
01:09:11.000Someone saying something about, look at these papers, they're secret, doesn't prove he actually had secret papers and showed them to anybody.
01:11:03.000Do we have witnesses who can recall and take the stand and they'll testify?
01:11:08.000Oh yeah, it was this precise document that was marked top secret, no foreign, your eyes only document, and he was showing us all of these precise battle plans.
01:11:18.000Now, I mean I highly doubt that, and Tim's exactly right, every time we see one of these things play out, which is I think what most Americans recognize now, is that every time we see one of these allegations, whether it's three days or three years down the line, there's more to the story.
01:11:36.000And that the left just keeps coming at him and coming at him and coming at him with everything that they have.
01:11:42.000And it's always, this is the last straw, this is the death knell for Donald Trump.
01:11:51.000I think that the left is destroying its own credibility, the more that they do this, because average Americans sitting at home, Kansas, Georgia, Nevada, wherever, they see this and they say, why do they keep going after this guy?
01:12:33.000When we were talking about the borders and Oklahoma banning abortion and Colorado allowing it, it doesn't matter what you think the law is.
01:12:39.000We talked about this the other day, cohabitation in West Virginia is illegal.
01:12:43.000Are they gonna bring charges against you?
01:12:45.000Only if they want to search your residence.
01:12:48.000Show me the man, I'll show you the crime.
01:12:50.000So, let's say you're in West Virginia, and you're an activist, and the state's like, this person's causing us problems, can we find a crime that'll give us a justification for searching their residence?
01:12:59.000They're cohabitating, that's illegal, boom, we got him.
01:14:13.000Okay, so to be specific, it's not about just cohabitation, it's about fornication.
01:14:18.000It says, in prosecutions for adultery and fornication, lewd and lasciviously cohabiting together, the persons named in the indictment shall be presumed to be unmarried persons, unless proof to the contrary.
01:14:31.000I'm assuming that the laws... Oh, fornication means unmarried sexual intercourse.
01:14:36.000That's the first time I've ever put that together.
01:14:37.000I think with this thing, I could be wrong, but I was talking to someone about it recently and they were like, yeah, what are they called?
01:14:55.000If any person's not married to each other, lewdly and lascivously associate or cohabitate together, they shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction be fined not less than $50.
01:15:03.000Yeah, like, to clarify, if you are not married and you be hooking up, it's illegal.
01:15:08.000And it's like, I think that's particularly if you're hooking up in public.
01:15:28.000So, what I read was specifically saying, if you are not married, and you are lewdly associating and cohabitating, Then you will be guilty of a misdemeanor.
01:15:37.000If you are married or not, be guilty of open or gross lewdness and lasciviousness.
01:15:48.000Yeah, they don't prosecute that stuff anymore.
01:15:49.000But I guess, I'm actually, if they tried to today, though, if they were going after somebody they didn't like, and then this was the justification, it would almost certainly be struck down.
01:16:24.000Now what we'll need is a judge's interpretation of what then would you call taking a pregnant woman, carrying a child that the state deems to be a child across state lines without permission of the other parent.
01:16:40.000What I'm saying is, if this continues in this way, you will get to the point where the interpretation of the state in Oklahoma is that a child carried to another state to be put to death is irrelevant whether it's in the womb or out of the womb.
01:16:58.000If a woman carried a physical child across state lines to bring it to a place to have it killed, they would view it identically to a woman with the baby in the womb doing the same thing.
01:17:07.000Yeah, I'm actually curious about the law.
01:17:09.000I want to look into it, but I'm not sure if the laws that are banning it are also defining it as homicide.
01:17:13.000I wonder if some states ban it without characterizing it as homicide.
01:17:16.000That's why I'm saying a judge will have to interpret it.
01:17:21.000Not that a judge will say it's homicide, but that the interpretation will have to be handed down by a judge.
01:17:27.000You will get a circumstance in Oklahoma, and it's probably already happened, where a woman gets pregnant, goes to Colorado, gets an abortion.
01:17:34.000There will be a lawsuit or some challenge, if slash when she returns, and you will have the father or some family member being like, that was illegal, and then filing some kind of claim and demanding criminal charges for it.
01:17:48.000It's an illegal act, terminate the pregnancy, she went and did it in another state, what will the judges say about that?
01:17:54.000It'll have to be interpreted by somebody.
01:18:30.000One, yes, there will be circumstances where women will be unjustly halted from living their lives.
01:18:35.000The second, there will be women who will lie about traveling to visit their parents in order to terminate the life of the child.
01:18:42.000Yeah, I mean, also, if you're pregnant, if you just have a child in general, I think it would be very strange for you to go somewhere without your spouse wanting you to go there.
01:18:52.000I'm sure you have, like, some abusive relationships where the husband is a maniac and the woman has a reason to leave, but that's totally different.
01:19:02.000I think we're headed towards, uh, as the states fracture.
01:19:05.000Wait, don't say, is this the word I have to say?
01:19:12.000I was gonna say something dark because it starts with...
01:19:15.000The political polarization of people into certain states, then the championing of federalization, like states being sovereign, but then you have to contend with the fact that if Colorado and Oklahoma are distinct entities with extremely different laws, you will need border checkpoints.
01:19:35.000This is the fracturing of the United States.
01:19:38.000The point where Oklahoma will have to have a border checkpoint with Colorado.
01:19:43.000Yeah, it's also very interesting because I wonder in 20 years where all of these states are going to be.
01:19:49.000We've seen states change from red to blue over time.
01:19:55.000Look, the entire country in many ways, especially on social issues, has moved significantly further to the left.
01:20:01.000In terms of legislation, I would say in some states abortion and, in general, gun control are kind of the two issues where we've moved to the right as a country.
01:20:11.000But for the most part, the trajectory has always been to the left.
01:20:15.000I'm curious to see if there's going to be a backlash and some of these places that are blue might start to turn red.
01:20:22.000That's also, again, not me saying that's going to happen.
01:20:25.000I think that could be wishful thinking, but... On the point of immigration, to add to what you're saying, Ian, they already do have random stops.
01:21:13.000The reason he asked that is he wanted a fast question that you'd have to be able to answer really, really quickly, because if you were an illegal immigrant, you wouldn't have a canned response to it.
01:21:24.000If Arizona is worried about the southern border crisis, I saw a video from Jorge Ventura on the border and there was like immigrants are coming up but they couldn't get across.
01:21:41.000They're stuck at some wall or something.
01:21:43.000They've been there for three days just camping on the border waiting to get across.
01:21:46.000Dude, what is the solution to this border?
01:21:50.000I don't even want to say it online, man.
01:21:53.000I just have such horrible, horrible visions of what could happen if we don't stem the tide.
01:23:16.000But instead what they're doing is they're sending them to the ports of entry and they're saying,
01:23:20.000Go to the port of entry and make your case there.
01:23:23.000And, uh, what the government is doing is by the tens of thousands every month, actually letting people come to the port of entry, make an appointment, tell them who they are, and they just let them into the United States.
01:23:33.000Well, you can go to your court date someday, five years in the future.
01:23:48.000You have to either do that, you have to detain people long enough for them to have some kind of a court hearing to adjudicate if they have some kind of a claim, or you have to avail them of other alternatives, like, say, third country agreements that we'd signed with Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras, where it'd say, hey, look, You're seeking asylum in the United States, and you're from Guatemala?
01:24:29.000They come through the southern border and they're Honduran.
01:24:32.000We can't then go, hey Mexico, we're putting this person into your country.
01:24:34.000They might say like, no, you can't do that.
01:24:35.000We don't know where that person came from.
01:24:37.000And sometimes for a lot of these people, we don't even know if they came through Mexico.
01:24:40.000They may have come through other ways.
01:24:41.000They may have flown here, overstayed their visas.
01:24:43.000So what if we had an island where it's like, if you enter here illegally, we will detain you, transport you to this island where you will be detained temporarily till we can figure out What country you originate from, figure out proper means of deportation, or if it's a genuine case of asylum.
01:25:03.000Now, I think that makes sense because you can't just push them back.
01:25:07.000And the challenge will be, of course, finding the appropriate location.
01:25:10.000But I think there is an island up in the northeast somewhere that we could potentially use that's very nice.
01:26:09.000I want to point out, I actually pulled up the actual West Virginia Code 52102, lewd or lascivious cohabitation.
01:26:15.000No persons not married to each other shall lewdly and lasciviously associate and cohabitate together, or whether married or not, be guilty of open or gross lewdness or lasciviousness.
01:26:24.000Quite literally, you cannot live with another person and engage in adult activities with them unless you're married.
01:26:30.000I wonder if people have OnlyFans accounts or do porn from West Virginia if they could get arrested under that law.
01:26:40.000So we were looking at these laws because they were doing drag shows with kids, and I'm like, pretty sure it's already illegal.
01:26:47.000Jefferson County explicitly banned it.
01:26:49.000Saying like, this is explicitly defined as, you know, against the law.
01:26:53.000Berkeley County, which is a little further west, it's not explicit, but West Virginia state law clearly covers having a drag performance and allowing kids on stage.
01:27:01.000The question is, will the AG actually do anything about it?
01:27:23.000The people of West Virginia will never let you remove that law.
01:27:25.000If you have an indecent relationship with your live-in girlfriend, they're gonna give you a- That's crazy that they could charge you with a misdemeanor.
01:27:32.000But I think it's only like a $50 fine, right?
01:28:17.000I mean, it outright says fornication, too.
01:28:20.000I would love to see the stats from historical stats to see just how many actual of those prosecutions were brought against cohabitating couples versus how many times it was used to prosecute things like prostitution houses or other things that, you know, that was their way of getting at it back in the day.
01:28:37.000I mean, that would be my supposition, but I don't know.
01:28:42.000Is if you go back like a hundred years, when this law's on the books, you've got some conservatives sitting around a pub table being like, these liberals, they're advocating for fornication in the privacy of their own homes!
01:29:20.000Social erosion, social cohesion is always found in societies where you share a set of values.
01:29:27.000And whatever those values are, those are the values that are shared by the community, right?
01:29:30.000And we can judge them by today's standards, but we shouldn't.
01:29:35.000There was at least a shared, unified idea that there was some kind of fundamental truths and some baseline morals that everybody agreed to and that carried forth.
01:29:46.000enables people to have trust in relationships and with each other and build communities and
01:29:51.000When you erode those things and when you do things like when we have these drag shows with with kids coming in
01:29:57.000Coming to them and parents bringing their kids to these things that erodes all of that
01:30:02.000Rapidly and the we can see we can see the immediate effects But I think the downstream effects the ripple effects are
01:30:08.000the things that we haven't yet seen that are the terror You made this point, you said, I don't think we should judge the people of that time by our moral norms.
01:30:16.000result of this that we're not even experiencing yet in today's reality.
01:30:20.000Absolutely agreed. You made this point, you said, I don't think we should judge
01:30:24.000the people of that time by our moral norms. Quite frankly, I think it would be
01:30:28.000much more painful to be judged in our time by their moral norms.
01:30:32.000Like social cohesion or like shared morality, should we have that on a global scale?
01:30:38.000I don't know that you can have it on a global scale.
01:30:41.000Like where does it segment righteously?
01:30:43.000It used to be every state, then it was like now we have the United States so it has a moral, but like does it ever, did it ever really have a true, a real shared moral value in the United States or was it always like pockets of disparate morality?
01:30:54.000I mean I think it was, you know, the Judeo-Christian kind of Protestant ethos that formed kind of the core of the common values in the United States, they carried
01:31:05.000forth things for a couple hundred years.
01:31:07.000Now, of course, as the more of those died down and religion was, people will worship something.
01:31:13.000Yep. And it's a matter of what are they worshiping, right?
01:31:16.000And so it used to be they would worship, they would go to church, they would have a different religion, maybe they would be Baptist, maybe they would be Methodist, whatever.
01:31:22.000But religion, in that traditional sense, for many people, especially on the left side of the spectrum, has been replaced with worship of things like transgender ideology.
01:31:40.000So if you're not following, if you're not worshipping your God, you're worshipping something else.
01:31:47.000And a lot of times it comes down to money, and for a lot of people, and unfortunately a lot of kids these days, as we see the statistics bear out, with the number who are self-identifying Is LGBTQIA+++, or whatever the acronym is these days, well I just saw a thing today.
01:32:01.000It said 20% of Gen Z kids identify as being a member of that group.
01:32:08.000That's not coming from a place of a shared morality, shared set of values where things are acceptable and things are not acceptable.
01:32:17.000That's coming from a sense of worshipping self, worshipping the latest thing, the ever-shifting norms of the left.
01:32:26.000They're always going to be moving to the left.
01:32:28.000There's no core anchor that holds them together, kind of like conservatives.
01:32:32.000There's at least some common values that we hold and that we will always—it'll be our mooring that we won't stray far from.
01:32:39.000Theirs is always shifting, always moving.
01:32:41.000Yeah, no, I think that's right, and what I would say is when you look at a very broad social scale, you know, people did believe different things in different areas, but anywhere where things have functioned with a very large group, the people at least shared the natural law, the Ten Commandments, but then they had their own kind of regional customs, I think there are laws that are universally applicable that all humans should follow, but then there are certain kind of regional laws, you know, built atop those universal laws in different regional stories and in myths and pastimes.
01:33:19.000That can't scale out to groups that are too large.
01:33:23.000There are certain things that historically, traditionally, and culturally make more sense for Tennessee than California or vice versa.
01:33:31.000So, you can't have a universal social cohesion in the sense that everyone's on board with all of the same Stories and customs, but I think you can you can ideally have a moral code Which is adhered to by everyone in the world I just think it's unlikely like I think it's very unlikely that everyone's gonna follow the Ten Commandments We want them to every culture should expect that but even that it probably won't happen So that's why when it comes to smaller things that are more regional.
01:34:01.000I mean, I don't think there's any hope of exporting that stuff We did that one episode where we went through the Ten Commandments, and we were talking about, from a secular perspective, whether they would apply to making a better life.
01:34:10.000And I think, like, the only one that doesn't apply to a secular life is keeping the Lord's name and not using the Lord's name in vain.
01:34:17.000But, like, not killing, not stealing, not adultery, honoring your parents.
01:34:21.000Whether you're religious or not, following those rules, you'll have a better life.
01:34:24.000Well, and the thing about the Ten Commandments is they're not just specific rules, they're also categories.
01:34:30.000So taking the Lord's name in vain, in the most real sense, condemns taking the Lord's name in vain, but there's other things we extrapolate from that, just like using language properly or improperly, using foul language is like a lesser violation of that commandment, but still a violation, so I think even that would apply.
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01:35:09.000Alright, I'm not your buddy guy says, not to be too hyperbolic, but is this America's last election?
01:35:14.000I mean, can you imagine sharing a nation with two vastly different ideologies?
01:35:18.000It's as if only a Julius Caesar character can save the West.
01:35:21.000I don't know about last election, but I do believe we are entering a very tumultuous period with this election.
01:35:27.000Think about it in a couple of different ways.
01:36:01.000It seems like, I don't disagree, a Julius Caesar character, like we're entering, it feels like we're at that crossing the Rubicon moment, from the Republic to the Empire officially.
01:36:09.000We're always vulnerable to it, but it strikes me more like we're in another sexual revolution that's less violent than the one that happened in the 60s, but there's more media coverage, so the little bits of violence that do happen get blown out of proportion.
01:36:31.000I agree, except I would say I don't think it's another sexual revolution so much as it is the inevitable fallout from the first, and I actually think it's more violent.
01:36:40.000The violence is just being done to children.
01:37:45.000We need someone to run the grant program, however we're doing it, I have no idea.
01:37:51.000I say these things like, here's the thing I want to do, and then it doesn't happen, because someone has to run the program, but we want to do a thing where once a month we give 10 grand to someone for their cultural endeavor.
01:38:00.000And a lot of people are like, I want to do a podcast, and it's like, eh, there's eight million podcasts.
01:38:05.000If you're going to paint something, or do a series of paintings or something, or a comic, or music, or I don't know.
01:38:11.000One thing we definitely want to do is more bands for Trash House Records.
01:38:15.000So we have another song in the works, but we are working on signing a very large musical enterprise.
01:38:21.000And then we're looking at a few others too, so we're really excited for that.
01:39:42.000Yeah, I mean, uh, you know, if... Candy bars are not good.
01:39:47.000But if we can replace the garbage plastic candy bars with basic ingredients candy bars, because of people like Mr. Beast, we're moving in a positive direction.
01:39:54.000A little bit of them is okay, but the addictive quality of sugar is what's really the challenge.
01:39:59.000Once you eat one piece, you've got to kind of set it down and not let it overcome.
01:42:59.000And the reason is, When, you know, what ended up happening was something came up where we ended up talking about the majority report.
01:43:08.000And then Emma Vigeland hit us up saying she wanted to come on the show because they know that we're basically like, we invited Sam on before, he played us and used it for drama and clickbait, so I said no more, not doing it.
01:43:18.000She came on the show and we offered her a tour of the property, we offered her sushi, she stood in the center of our skate park and met some of our staff, and then afterwards she lied and claimed she didn't see the skate park, we didn't show her around, and it was the weirdest thing ever.
01:43:31.000It's because they're just lying to get clicks.
01:43:33.000They're apparently upset now because we ran a segment that says leftist defends, you know, adult book and dating apps for kids, and they're angry, but she literally didn't defend it.
01:43:44.000She literally said it was a good book.
01:43:45.000I was actually shocked, right, because I've seen a bit of her content on the Majority Report.
01:43:52.000I responded to one of the videos they did, but for her to come say something was a good book without knowing what was in it was shocking to me.
01:44:19.000He'll come in here and he'll, like, jump from the rafters and body slam the table and do other... But we could talk about socialized medicine and why, like, people taking risk kind of violates the ethos of social medicine.
01:44:30.000He'll pretend to misunderstand something to make you say something, to make a clip out of it.
01:44:36.000And then he'll lie about what happened when he came here, like Emma did.
01:44:38.000I think I have a bulletproof defense on socialized medicine.
01:44:41.000Anyone that thinks we need that is crazy, in my opinion.
01:44:44.000At first, when Emma said she didn't see the skate park, I'm like, did she not realize she was standing next to it?
01:44:49.000Maybe she walked past and didn't realize there's ramps everywhere and rails and a seven foot tall vert wall.
01:44:55.000And then I was told by the staff that she actually stood in the center of it after they parked their car and she walked through it.
01:45:00.000And it's like, okay, so she's just lying.
01:45:03.000If we invite Sam on the show, if you invite Sam on your show, that's what he does.
01:45:07.000When I invited him on Twitter, he lied and said, yes, I'll come on the show, and then DMed me privately saying, I'm not going on your show.
01:45:17.000You know what, by all means, Sam, do your thing.
01:45:19.000If you're just making reality TV, make reality TV under the guise of politics.
01:45:23.000I'm down for whatever, I just can't stand talking about them.
01:45:27.000I would love to either never mention the majority report, Sam Seder, Emma Vigeland, never mention them again, and keep doing what we're doing, or have them on, get over it, and then never mention them again.
01:45:35.000We're talking about them because we just had them on last week, and now they're lying about what happened for clicks.
01:45:40.000So it's become something we'll talk about.
01:46:04.000We should, I'll reach out to our guests to talk about, like, promotion for the shows, because we'll make, like, graphics for it and everything.
01:46:37.000Well, I think the rebate's up to the purchase price.
01:46:40.000So actually, the hustle would be to buy Bud Light, get the rebate, and then, you know, walk around with a cooler at baseball games or something.
01:46:47.000Which you should not do, because you can't sell alcohol.
01:46:49.000But I'm saying that would be a hustle.
01:48:50.000But if you go on Twitter and do that, they'll flag you, they'll censor the video and say it's inappropriate.
01:48:57.000I think this may have changed under Musk, but if you just misgendered somebody on Twitter, if you don't use someone's fake, made-up pronouns, that could get you kicked off Twitter.
01:49:52.000There's a classic bit from the first episode of The Simpsons where Bart sits down, he goes to get a tattoo, and the guy goes, wait a minute, are you 21?
01:50:07.000If you're sending an email to someone, there's no public activity going on.
01:50:10.000If it's a website that everyone can access, technically, we consider it kind of public, but if someone doesn't have a computer, they have no ability to access it.
01:50:17.000So it's not really publicly available unless you have money to buy a machine to utilize it.
01:50:22.000That's like saying if someone stands in Times Square with a picture, it's not publicly accessible because you can't travel to Times Square.
01:51:16.000In Utah, they implemented a law requiring strengthened protections so that children can stumble on porn, and what Pornhub did was they boycotted Utah as a result.
01:51:27.000Nope, we don't want to show stuff to people in Utah.
01:51:30.000Well, that's a win on both fronts, but also you are making it abundantly clear that it's extremely important for your business model to be able to show pornographic content to minors.
01:52:24.000Jon Stewart says, when I had sex ed in high school in the 90s, it was about contraception use and STD prevention, and we had to have signed parental consent.
01:52:32.000You mean they didn't give you BDSM education and talk about eating poop?
01:52:36.000I guess those were the dark ages, Tim.
01:52:38.000Even in 5th grade, they told me, it was like 1988 or 9 or something, they said, like, it is pleasurable, and abstinence, they have accepted abstinence doesn't work, is the thing.
01:52:47.000Like, they weren't saying, don't do it.
01:52:48.000They were saying, if you do it, be very careful, use a condom, and they were like, because STDs and pregnancy.
01:52:56.000The idea that abstinence doesn't work comes from Kinsey, and all that data was fudged, Well, that was a funny thing, too, about when we had Emma on, because she asked me two things that didn't apply to this show or me.
01:53:07.000She asked me if, like, well, what if, should they allow the Bible in schools?
01:53:11.000Like, isn't the Bible, I was like, no, I think there's things in the Bible that parents should probably be talking to their kids about.
01:54:21.000And so there are a lot of people in this country who are black or descendants of slave owners for very messed up reasons.
01:54:26.000Often when I explain to people why my whole life I was told I was Korean and then found out that I was part Japanese, it's not for good reasons that my Korean ancestors have some Japanese in them.
01:54:39.000Because I would imagine if that was in your ancestry because of a slave being, you know, abused by an owner that you wouldn't, like, consider yourself a descendant of them.
01:55:11.000They were trying to make it seem like because she was against racism and, like, fighting all this stuff, it was somehow discredited because she was actually a descendant of slave owners, and I'm like, no.
01:56:40.000He's not the descendant of American slaves.
01:56:44.000So if he does have slaveholders in his past, that it would have been like, it wouldn't
01:56:50.000have been because the slave was abused.
01:56:51.000I still don't think that matters, to be completely honest.
01:56:54.000Look, I don't want to punish people for the sins of their ancestors, but at the same time, you know, you could imagine that being used against any Republican.
01:57:33.000And, you know, so I think the founding documents and the founding fathers, for all their faults, planted some good seeds that have made this country fantastic.
01:57:42.000I would agree, and people will argue, well, the founders wanted the United States to be this new free country, but then they didn't put anything in the Constitution that forbids slavery.
01:57:52.000Okay, we're not going to get the 13 colonies to ratify the Constitution and the Bill of Rights if you had something in there that banned slavery.
01:57:59.000It doesn't mean that all of the founders were in favor of slavery.
01:58:02.000It just means that as a political reality, they were not going to be able to have their system of government pass unless the colonies ratified, and if they couldn't get it to pass, then they would just go back to England, which was not based on principles of freedom, and so there would be less reason to believe slavery would ever end.
01:58:15.000And the power that Thomas Jefferson had was a lot of it was because of the slaves that he owned doing his labor for him.
01:58:22.000And without that power, he wouldn't have been as influential and able to go to Congress and be a congressman and all those things.
01:58:27.000So it was, you know, it's double-edged sword.
01:58:30.000The Cranky Gen Xer says... Wait, I don't know what that means.
02:01:14.000Dude, you cannot have a functioning society and you cannot build wealth if one person is sleeping with every woman in the community.
02:01:20.000People are committing adultery, people are stealing, people are killing.
02:01:23.000What's happened in various societies historically As they become wealthy and as they become insulated, certain people who are very high status ended up being able to routinely violate those moral principles without suffering consequences.
02:01:36.000And there wasn't the same Christian framework to tell them that even as powerful people there would be eternal consequences for their actions.
02:01:43.000But people at the bottom of the hierarchy and people who are living in a state of nature basically always came to the same moral conclusions, and if they didn't come to those moral conclusions, their tribe never rose out of its more natural state to build a large-scale civilization.
02:02:01.000I guess the Aztecs is all I'm thinking about.
02:02:02.000They weren't really large-scale, I guess.
02:02:04.000Yeah, well, no, no, no, so, but even the Aztecs, right?
02:02:07.000The Aztecs had a horrific culture, and I acknowledge that there have been many horrible and satanic cultures throughout history, but the masses were not encouraged to do things like steal, kill, and rape, and if they were, then those civilizations crumbled.
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