On today's show, we talk about the "Great Hooning" that's going on in the streets of America right now, and why it's actually not so bad. Plus, we have a special guest on the show today, Greg Price, founder and CEO of Xstrategies LLC.
00:00:49.000Now there's rumors circulating, at least I think it's Rolling Stone reporting this, that Republicans want truckers to shut down the Super Bowl.
00:01:24.000But I don't see why Joe would leave the platform.
00:01:28.000I just don't see why he would do it for the same amount of money.
00:01:31.000The concern is, I guess, Rumble's like, Joe, you know, come over here and you won't be censored.
00:01:35.000And Joe's like, they're telling me not to say the N-word, and I don't think Joe's gonna want to jump from Spotify to Rumble for the sake of that.
00:01:44.000But we'll talk about everything that's going on there.
00:01:46.000We got Peter Thiel stepping down from Facebook to focus on campaigning for Republicans, so this should be really, really interesting, plus some news about Facebook stock and the Olympics.
00:01:55.000So joining us today to talk about all of this is Greg Price.
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00:05:47.000But let's get into that first big story.
00:05:49.000FromTheWeek.com Court issues 10-day ban on honking in downtown Ottawa.
00:05:57.000A Canadian judge issued a 10-day injunction Monday banning protesting truckers from honking their horns in downtown Ottawa.
00:06:05.000Quote, Tooting a horn is not an expression of any great thought I'm aware of, Justice Hugh McLean of the Ottawa Superior Court said.
00:06:14.000He also said the ban on honking would not rob demonstrators of their right to protest.
00:06:18.000A convoy of truckers and other demonstrators protesting Canada's COVID-19 policies entered on January 29th, where they've been for some time.
00:06:24.000Let me just, let me just answer, you know, respond to this here Justice Hugh McLean.
00:06:29.000Honking absolutely is an expression of a great thought.
00:08:23.000Well, this is a Canadian government that, as we know, was seizing their gasoline, too.
00:08:28.000There's this uprising of workers, and it's pissing off the people in power in Canada, and it seems that they'll go to great lengths in order to shut them up.
00:09:18.000Protests, as AOC says, are supposed to make people uncomfortable.
00:09:21.000So honking your horn, hey man, more power to you.
00:09:24.000If they say, hey guy, you brought a train horn to downtown Ottawa, I'd be like, yeah, dude, that's like, come on, that's a little much, isn't it?
00:09:43.000I mean, if- I'm thinking- I want to- I want to help the cause, but I will still acknowledge that this noise can be used as a form of violence.
00:09:51.000And so I understand kind of both sides of this.
00:10:12.000I mean, they're honking their horns in a way that makes people uncomfortable.
00:10:15.000You also have to consider is that these truckers themselves are here day in and day out, and it's going to get annoying to them on some level.
00:10:23.000So I think they can self-regulate here.
00:10:25.000I think it's insane that the Canadian government would tell them they're not able to express themselves in this way.
00:10:29.000Like I could see if you're a citizen in Ottawa and living in downtown Ottawa and all day, every day, all you hear is honk, honk, honk.
00:10:34.000I could see how that would get annoying at the same time.
00:10:37.000It's not like they're burning your buildings down like in other protests that we've seen before.
00:10:42.000So I could see how that would be annoying.
00:10:44.000But did the government step in like this in the summer of 2020 in Canada or in the United States?
00:10:55.000Might not have been as bad as America, but... Was Black Canadian Lives Matter, like, smashing windows and burning buildings down or anything like that?
00:11:01.000Probably not as bad as America, but the movement was, you know... But, you know, again, it's the politics behind this.
00:11:07.000I don't think, you know... I just searched Ottawa on Twitter.
00:11:11.000I saw this video, I think yesterday, which is what brought this up in my mind, is a guy in Ottawa got his video and was like, hey guys, just so you know, this is what it's like all day.
00:11:21.000So I understand, I would go freaking crazy if all of a sudden, whatever, Vax run, I'd support a run, all of a sudden just maddening noise all around me.
00:12:16.000And Ian, I mean, you're absolutely right that it is extremely annoying, and if these people were outside of my window honking, I would be annoyed as well, but at the same time, if it's a question of whether we're gonna allow a group of people to be annoyed or allow a group of people to have their rights violated, I'm gonna choose to let those people be annoyed.
00:12:30.000Yeah, you said, that was pretty insightful, what you said just a second ago, Tim, about how, like, because I'm thinking about how the German citizens, when they supported, just allowed the Nazis to do their thing and just stood by and let it happen.
00:12:39.000When the Allied troops came in there, they didn't...
00:12:41.000You know, those people, they had to sit by and listen to the honking.
00:12:44.000They weren't allowed to be like, stop!
00:12:45.000You know, you sit by and watch tyranny take hold.
00:13:30.000These are people who live in the city.
00:13:32.000The people who are screaming and complaining about the honking are the people who did vote for Trudeau and don't support the truckers.
00:13:40.000I don't care if, look, if you come out and say that you voted for Joe Biden, I'm going to be like, okay, well, now you're going to be uncomfortable for having supported a man who's caused all of these problems for us.
00:13:54.000The death of the civilians in Afghanistan, the rising gas prices, the failing economy.
00:13:59.000There's some good things about the economy, but you can't come out and be like, we lost two million jobs and brought back 1.5, so we're doing great!
00:14:06.000And if you want to come out and be like, you supported him, then I'll be like, prepare to be uncomfortable as I protest the guy you voted in.
00:14:12.000Yeah, no, I mean, I think that when you're looking at this situation, And these mandates and the fact that these people were completely in favor of them and that's resulted in these protests and now they're really upset by the honking.
00:14:28.000You kind of have to put it in perspective.
00:14:30.000Ultimately, what's going to make their lives worse?
00:14:32.000The hyperinflation which is occurring because we decided to print trillions of dollars, the broken supply chains, the fact that it's more difficult to get food.
00:14:40.000It's true, but also our economies are really interconnected and if the dollar isn't doing as strongly and we're not trading with them as much or the supply chain is broken down in our country, that's going to affect their lives too.
00:14:49.000And a couple horns honking outside your window day in and day out for as long as this protest lasts is not going to have as much of a negative effect on their lives in the long term.
00:14:58.000The other thing you have to think about is like the people doing the honking and the protesting.
00:15:01.000These are the people who during the pandemic, while everyone was, all them were staying inside.
00:15:05.000These were the people who were, you know, bringing you your packages to your door, bringing the supplies everywhere.
00:15:10.000That was probably more annoying than just hearing some honks every day.
00:15:15.000These are, these are people who sit inside, vote for politicians who lock everything down and then demand the government just gives them money.
00:15:21.000Yeah, I saw a tweet from this girl, I don't remember who, but it was like a journalist, and she was like, who do we have to appeal to to save us from this?
00:15:28.000Was basically the tweet, and I'm like, there's a mindset in humanity of like, where is daddy to save me?
00:15:40.000These people love to be like, I'm going to vote for the authority to do whatever they want.
00:15:45.000Then go and sit back and say, solve my problems for me.
00:15:49.000That vote causes problems for everybody else who are now dancing in the street and honking horns, not even smashing windows or anything like that.
00:15:56.000And now these people are crying about it.
00:16:46.000You know, you know, you know, this is the reason why I have very little sympathy is probably because I lived, I lived on a busy street and I hear honking all day, every day, nonstop.
00:16:55.000But I've also experienced, you know, actual hardship.
00:16:58.000And so when I hear people screaming and crying about honking, I'm like, geez.
00:17:08.000Well, that's a very interesting point because Ottawa is one of the richest cities in Canada.
00:17:13.000And so, for months, at least in the United States, you had BLM burning down some of the most impoverished neighborhoods in the country and making life impossible for the people who live there.
00:17:22.000And our media thought that that was just fine.
00:17:24.000But now, when working-class people go into an upper-class neighborhood and honk their horns too loudly for too long, it's a nightmare.
00:17:31.000I will say, as much as it is a different country, our culture completely overlaps.
00:17:36.000So you've got American leftist journalists who are on the side of the government of Canada, and then you've got American libertarian, conservative, moderate, post-liberals who are on the side of the great hunkening.
00:17:50.000I genuinely believe You know, 90 plus percent of people support the hunkening.
00:17:55.000You know, you're never gonna convince me.
00:17:57.000Because I look at the comments on Reddit, even the astroturfing isn't working.
00:18:02.000I just won't believe that actual, grassroots, regular leftists, I don't mean online personalities, regular people, that if you go to them and say, how do you feel about the workers rising up?
00:18:13.000They'd be like, oh, that's pretty cool.
00:18:14.000How do you feel about the truckers rising up?
00:18:15.000Glad they're rising up against the establishment.
00:18:18.000Yeah, no, and that's sort of my point, even though yes, obviously this is occurring in a different country, our media is going to empathize with the upper class people who are being inconvenienced in Canada more so than they would lower class people in the United States having their actual business burnt down.
00:18:31.000Well, I mean, it goes to show that the media speaks for the interests of, you know, the ruling class and the powerful.
00:18:37.000And even in Canada, where the media is actually controlled by the government, like, the media are actual government entities.
00:18:42.000So, you know, in that case, they're actually on the side of the government.
00:18:46.000And, like, I was looking at some of the coverage in Canadian media and I was like, Yeah, you can really tell.
00:18:52.000One of the first articles we read on the show, it was like, the far-right group that has been known for vandalism and stealing food from the homeless.
00:20:48.000What was crazy to me was seeing the brand account for the Ottawa Police Department cheering on GoFundMe's decision to take this money away from the truckers.
00:20:57.000You have this unholy alliance of the government, law enforcement, big corporations, and then you have these who are just taking away the rights of working class people.
00:21:10.000And you know, we complain about a lot, a lot about that in America, but man, like it's, it's crazy.
00:21:29.000I think you're thinking about the F word.
00:21:31.000Yeah, so earlier you mentioned how Canadian media is basically controlled by the government.
00:21:35.000One thing I find very disturbing is that with the United States media, we do have media which is controlled by private corporations, but honestly, can you imagine it acting all that differently if it was controlled and regulated by the government?
00:21:49.000They continually cheer for bigger government.
00:21:51.000They insult people and they smear them for calling for more freedom and calling for the restrictions the government imposes upon the average person to end.
00:21:58.000And when you look at the situation in Canada, like I mentioned, it's clear that our private media is more sympathetic to their state media in Canada and the views that they hold than they are to the views of the actual people of our country or theirs!
00:23:01.000So like it's not even that just that they're biased to one side of the political aisle.
00:23:05.000They're beholden to corporate interests.
00:23:07.000A lot of these media outlets and a lot of the time corporate, you know, as we said before, there's this unholy alliance between government in America and big corporations.
00:23:22.000And, you know, obviously, obviously their coverage is going to not reflect the views of, you know, people in working class people in Ohio or working class truckers speaking out against these mandates.
00:23:34.000You know, they support all these things.
00:23:37.000I'm like thinking about the media and it reminds me of those movie tropes where it's like there's a wife and then her husband runs up and she has a gun and he's like, honey it's me put down the gun and then all of a sudden another like clone of her husband runs to the other side he's like no no no I'm your real husband and she's like I don't know which one is real I don't know where that trope came from like the original movie But it feels like there's like a normie regular American sitting on their couch and we run in and we're like, we're telling you the truth.
00:24:23.000We had a great relationship with the public.
00:24:25.000And then ol' DT came along and made him hate us with all of his rhetoric about how bad the media is.
00:24:31.000It was like, well, no, you guys were already pretty terrible, and mostly politicians were willing to bend the knee to you, and then one came around who wasn't, and it opened your eyes to how unpopular you are, because the reason most people, or at the very least many people, are cheering for Donald Trump was because you hated him and he hated you, and that meant that he was more on your side than theirs.
00:24:48.000uh... and i'd just love to see their their narrative crumble with each turn
00:24:52.000you're sure i'm talking about how canada is much more authoritarian than the u s
00:24:55.000but the fact that the people of that country have formed literally the
00:24:59.000largest convoy that we have ever been aware of in human history
00:25:03.000to protest their government's mandates is really incredible it's a giant white
00:25:07.000pill there was a big convoy of uh... diesel trucks by thousand years ago
00:25:12.000yes of course not And I understand it's a more recent phenomenon with the trucks, but also the largest convoy before this was like five miles.
00:26:00.000And I was telling it to YouTube and the people at the YouTube corporate headquarters was listening and they were like, yeah, let's do YouTube debates.
00:26:07.000So they created this thing, but then CNN getting in on it.
00:26:47.000Even the presidential debates, when they actually have their quote-unquote opposition across from them, it's just a press conference anyway.
00:26:53.000The person throws their slogans out there and then their opponent throws their slogans out there.
00:26:57.000Yeah, but did you hear Republicans are now going to boycott the Commission on Debates debates?
00:27:18.000Yeah, shows like this one have really, really changed the game.
00:27:22.000We were going to talk about Joe Rogan soon.
00:27:28.000Shows like yours, shows like Rogan's, shows like Tucker Carlson's that draw all of these eyeballs because they don't bend to institutional powers in corporate media are a threat to those, are a threat.
00:27:37.000And obviously you've been targeted with cancel culture and obviously the cancel culture knives have come out for Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson.
00:27:43.000The only reason for it is because instead of telling the truth, these institutional powers have now chosen that they're just going to pressure corporations to censor their opposition.
00:27:52.000Do you notice a lot of corporate interference when you're working with like just candidacy and like positioning your candidates on social media and stuff?
00:27:59.000Do you feel like pushback from corporations while you're doing it?
00:28:02.000Do you have to navigate through that kind of thing?
00:28:04.000Well, I mean, no, because we wouldn't really work with anybody who is so beholden to corporate powers.
00:28:09.000Like we don't obviously we were a company of seven people and we would never we would never do that.
00:28:13.000And, you know, what's what's what really what really sucks is that like there are a lot of members of Congress that I'm sure most Republicans probably like.
00:28:20.000and respect a lot who take a lot of money from big tech and take a lot of money from and and so they
00:28:26.000and part of the reason i think he's asking if with the candidates you work with are they being
00:28:30.000censored and shut down oh yeah yeah we have to face that all the time and it's it's on
00:28:34.000So one of the clients that we work with is American Principles Project.
00:28:39.000Shout out to Terry Schilling and John Schweppe.
00:28:41.000And before we worked with them, this happened during the last election cycle, but they had their Facebook demonetized because they ran an ad in Michigan that opposed biological men and women's sports.
00:28:52.000And the way Facebook works is, in order to get a fact check, a fact checker actually has to write Fact-check of your thing. So some and obviously the fact-checkers
00:28:59.000are complete liars like these politicizing But so a fact-checker wrote a fact-check on an ad that
00:29:05.000opposed biological men and women's force and they got their Facebook account to monetize
00:29:08.000For that and so it's stuff like that that happens all the time. It's it's it's remarkable that I mean
00:29:14.000It's it we're in an amalgam of all these different dystopian novels
00:29:19.000It's like all of these writers could see a piece, but not the whole.
00:29:22.000Because, you know, in this instance, it's very, uh, the fact checkers are keeping us from knowing things.
00:29:29.000The major corporations are, uh, you know, stifling free enterprise.
00:29:33.000It's like, it's like the inversion of everything.
00:29:34.000War is peace, you know, et cetera, et cetera.
00:29:38.000They want to be able to dictate the public narrative, and when there's threats out there that are drawing all of the eyeballs away from them, they get scared, and because they're weak and pathetic, they go straight for censorship.
00:29:52.000We do have a lot to talk about with the great honking and what's going to be happening in the U.S., but let's carry this conversation forward, talking about what's going on with Joe Rogan.
00:30:01.000Rumble publicly offers Joe Rogan $100 million for a four-year censorship-free contract.
00:30:08.000Rumble posted, Hey Joe Rogan, we are ready to fight alongside you, saying, How about you bring all of your shows to Rumble, both old and new, with no censorship, for $100 million over four years?
00:30:19.000This is our chance to save the world, and yes, this is totally legit.
00:30:23.000Based on the reporting about Rumble's special purpose acquisition company, $2.1 billion valuation, and potentially $400 million in liquid cash to spend, I think they could do this But I don't see why Joe Rogan would do this, because it would be basically him saying that he wants to say the N-word.
00:30:43.000So it's like, not a good time to offer Joe Rogan $100 million for a censorship-free contract, because the issue at hand is that Joe himself, according to Spotify CEO, is the one who took down all of the episodes last Friday.
00:30:56.000But that apology video, man, that Joe put out was a mistake.
00:30:59.000It's making everything worse, and perhaps the issue is... When people say Joe has F.U.
00:31:07.000And a lot of people who are libertarian, freedom-loving, uh, you know, who want honest integrity, assume Joe is on their side, when in reality, Joe is just Joe, and just... is an honest guy.
00:32:08.000Well, one thing lefties do, and I'm not exactly sure how, if this has been the case with the Joe Rogan experience, but I would be very surprised if it wasn't, because it's something you've dealt with.
00:32:16.000It's something that virtually every large political show that I'm aware of or has spoken about this, has dealt with.
00:32:21.000But left-wing people will refuse to do a podcast if it's hosted too many right-wing people.
00:32:28.000And so then you only have people who are moderate or on the right doing the podcast.
00:32:50.000I don't speak for Joe Rogan, but I'm sure that there's a lot of left-wing people who absolutely could do the Joe Rogan experience and let the audience know what their opinions are.
00:32:57.000But they see Joe Rogan as a non-person.
00:33:01.000So why even engage with him or his audience?
00:33:03.000Kyle Kalinske said that in his episode Joe never used a slur, but he was very critical of Saudi Arabia and Spotify has just opened up their market to Saudi Arabia.
00:33:14.000Some people said that Joe mentioned a song lyric with a slur in it.
00:33:18.000You know, Kyle Kalinske said there was no slur in it.
00:33:21.000We also have these tweets from Adam Kokesh where he said Joe basically told him Spotify is not allowing him on the show and that they took down his show because they had too much misinformation in it.
00:33:31.000That sounds to me like That does not sound true, to be completely honest.
00:33:35.000Like, I don't see Joe Rogan as the kind of guy to, like, call somebody up and be like, dude, I'm so sorry to take your episode down.
00:33:41.000Like, those are words that Joe doesn't or probably won't use.
00:33:44.000So maybe the real issue is that Joe did talk to Adam Kokesh and said something like, Look, man, Spotify doesn't want, you know, these kind of shows.
00:33:54.000And there were issues with, like, the facts, the things that were being said.
00:34:37.000I think he views this show, his show, as like a little side project and he wants it in a box just like wrapped up and not stressing his life out.
00:34:45.000I saw him on Instagram, he's like, this is how I'm dealing with all the BS and it's like they light a gorilla, piece of gorilla ice cream on fire and they're like, and I'm on mushrooms as part of it.
00:34:54.000I was like, yeah, dude, he just wants to live, man.
00:34:57.000If it gets too much of a hassle, then it's too much of a hassle.
00:35:01.000I think what we see from all of this is that people shouldn't assume Joe Rogan is a warrior, like you said, like fighting on your side in the culture war.
00:35:43.000I mean, anything, anything anyone has said that he has said or done behind closed doors, like that, we don't have any confirmation on with respect to that.
00:35:50.000If we catch situation, you have to like, sort of stay on the side of we don't know, and we can't jump to conclusions about it.
00:35:56.000I want to say, you know, I want to make sure this is in every time I bring up a video about Joe, that he's helped me out tremendously.
00:36:03.000Having me on his show helped my career tremendously.
00:36:06.000Having me on with CEO of Twitter, Jack Dorsey, was just insane for me at the time.
00:36:10.000So I'm like, dude, I'm just some dude on YouTube with like 100,000 subs.
00:36:13.000Like, why am I sitting in front of the CEO of this major, biggest, you know, one of the biggest companies in the world?
00:36:17.000And so Joe had me on and he said that, you know, he thought I was a smart guy and I held my own.
00:37:23.000Citing the name of certain comedy specials, referencing the word itself.
00:37:28.000But he recently came out and said, There are a lot of people that think there's no context in which a white person can say this word, and I agree with that now and I haven't said it for years.
00:37:38.000That's the change in Joe where he's like, okay, I'll take this stuff down.
00:37:42.000But that is a very, very important change to reference.
00:37:57.000And it becomes very difficult then when you want to reference the names of documentaries because there's different forms of what we would call the n-word.
00:38:07.000And this is already a very difficult conversation to have, because it's hard for me to actually tell you what the words are, because if we say it, YouTube will take the show down outright.
00:38:15.000This is why I think we're having a very serious problem in our public discourse.
00:38:20.000There is no reason why a smart, honest individual can't describe a word.
00:38:25.000In fact, there are words that sound like the N-word you can't say either.
00:38:28.000A guy got cancer, he was on Fox News, and he used a word I can't say that meant shrewd, and they attacked him for it.
00:38:35.000It is absolutely insane that you have an executive at Netflix was telling people, here's a list of offensive words that should not be aired on our programs.
00:38:45.000And he got fired for telling people the word not to say.
00:38:52.000When Joe says, you know, after a few years, I realized, yes, you're right.
00:38:57.000We should not be able to describe this word.
00:39:01.000I completely disagree, but it shows you the cultural defeat, because that literally makes no sense whatsoever.
00:39:07.000While I will absolutely acknowledge, we of course will never reference, there's I think five or six words we're talking about in a members-only podcast that start with the letter N but are not the same word that you can't say for a variety of reasons.
00:39:24.000One of them I'm willing to actually say it's Nazi.
00:39:27.000By saying that, YouTube has already probably struck the channel.
00:39:30.000We're probably downranked, demonetized, all of that stuff.
00:39:33.000Because YouTube doesn't think that content is appropriate for advertisers, so you get hurt by it.
00:39:39.000There's other words that are referenced in documentaries that are not the typical N-word, but still are considered offensive by today's standards.
00:39:46.000I can't describe that word to you or explain to you what it is.
00:39:48.000It makes it impossible to explain to people what's going on at all.
00:39:51.000For Joe to come out and be like, I agree, I agree, there's no context.
00:39:55.000I'm like, that's hardcore bending the knee to an extreme degree.
00:40:01.000There are certain contexts where you need to describe what words people shouldn't be using in derogatory context.
00:40:08.000We're not allowed to say those words because the machine by which we have this show on will ban us outright.
00:40:14.000But, in the Members Only segment, we've had this conversation before, and we still refrain from using certain words, but we still get smeared for it anyway, trying to explain to people we simply want them to understand context.
00:40:48.000Well, one thing I found really funny about this story is after they cancelled Joe Rogan, or tried to cancel him over this, video resurfaced to use that lovely euphemism.
00:40:58.000By the way, that means they dug it up.
00:41:00.000Somebody went looking for it and found it.
00:41:03.000Footage also resurfaced of Joe Biden saying the N-word, and we're being told that we have to look at that contextually, but not when Joe Rogan used it.
00:41:16.000I'm pretty sure most rational people don't live under this perspective that anyone who's ever said that word, no matter the context, should be canceled, deplatformed, etc.
00:41:25.000They want to deplatform Joe Rogan, and they're going to do anything to do it.
00:41:30.000They'll go through any great length to cancel his show because it's a threat to the institutional power of the establishment, of the regime.
00:41:38.000Many people pointed out sexism is next.
00:41:40.000They're going to pull up the things he said about women.
00:42:03.000I'm not saying I just, it's, I'm mad at him for not wanting to fight.
00:42:06.000I'm saying, like he said, man, he's, he's just wanted to hang out with his friends and talk about stuff and now here he's in this position.
00:42:12.000I shouldn't, maybe giving up is, is inappropriate because it implies he wanted this fight in the first place.
00:42:17.000I think Joe's stood up for himself on many occasions, like when he challenged Sanjay Gupta on CNN.
00:42:21.000This is clearly a fight he's not willing to stand up for himself on.
00:43:27.000There is something inherently absurd with the idea of apologizing to a group of people who are literally saying that context doesn't matter because that means the context of your apology doesn't matter.
00:43:38.000All they see is you bending the knee and then they want more.
00:43:41.000This is some- Oh, were you gonna say something?
00:43:42.000Working at Mines, I worked with Mines for a long time, co-founder of the company with Bill, Bill Altman, the CEO.
00:43:48.000He kept telling me, it was like 2013, 14, 15, 16, he was like, context matters.
00:43:52.000And I was like, yeah, I know Bill, but like, and he's like, talking about how to administrate the website.
00:43:58.000Context matters. A robot cannot take a piece of text out of context.
00:44:02.000It makes no sense, it can, but it makes no sense ethically or constructively, morally to do that.
00:44:07.000So context, but how do you teach a computer system about context?
00:44:32.000Like, you know, Glenn Youngkin, the governor of Virginia, did something like this over the weekend where he apologized for a tweet where he, his campaign account made fun of this high school kid who tweeted a viral lie about him.
00:44:42.000But like, obviously they didn't, obviously they didn't, they were like, oh, this isn't a real apology.
00:44:46.000Like, you can't bend the knee to these people at all because they, all they want is your career to be destroyed.
00:44:52.000And even if it is an authentic apology, even if they accept that it's an authentic apology, this is not a group of people that believes in forgiveness or redemption.
00:44:58.000You are always the person who did that and they will always smear you with it.
00:45:01.000And I do believe, this is a great conversation, we talked about this before the show, using a slur at someone and talking about a word are different.
00:45:10.000Different environments, different meanings, and so that sort of seems to have been lost.
00:45:18.000Uh, so I, I truly believe that talking about words that have been used as racist slurs in the past is very important for our species to evolve and move past it and, and make it part of us.
00:45:28.000And then like old words that used to be really offensive.
00:45:30.000We don't, they're not offensive anymore.
00:45:31.000A lot of those words, that's just the nature of human communication.
00:45:36.000I mean, so, so if, um, you know, a child uses a swear word, they drop the F bomb and then dad gets home from work and mom goes, Johnny said, what the F?
00:45:46.000There's a world of difference between that and her husband coming home from work and she looks at him and she says, F you.
00:45:51.000Like she's saying the F word in both contexts or in both situations, but the context is extremely different.
00:45:58.000In one situation she is actually using it to hurt someone and in the other situation she's using it to either illustrate a point or to describe what someone else has said.
00:46:28.000It's not a place where nuance is a thing.
00:46:29.000The news outlets are all saying, video of Joe using the N-word.
00:46:35.000And so even if you want to argue that there's a better euphemism to use for the word when describing it, it's clear that there is a very large difference between using it and referencing it.
00:46:47.000Yeah, if you had like a bunch of blocks of letters that said the word and then you took a sledgehammer and smashed them, you'd be using the word but in like an alliterative Artistic manner.
00:46:58.000We know the media falsely frames things.
00:47:01.000We know that they'll twist whatever you did in any way possible to push the narrative they want.
00:47:11.000I've seen people chatting and they're in the chat saying he's probably got an NDA, he's probably got morality clauses about what he can and can't do, about controversies, and Spotify probably told him to apologize or whatever and he can't talk about it.
00:48:00.000So, my contract with Fusion, which was the ABC News Univision joint venture, was valued at like $3 to $5 million, but direct compensation was only like $700.
00:48:11.000The rest of the stuff was like discretionary budget, staffing, hiring, but it was a big contract.
00:48:16.000So if you're trying to do a big pitch, you can be like Disney nabs up Tim Pool with a $5 million contract or something like that.
00:48:22.000It sounds like I'm getting all this money.
00:48:25.000In my opinion, I don't know exactly what the specifics of Joe's deal with Spotify was, but I'd imagine they probably came to him and said, X amount of cash, X amount of shares, and maybe like a bonus or something like that.
00:48:43.000So actually, Ian, you're having worked with mines.
00:48:47.000You've worked with a lot of companies.
00:48:49.000They offer equity as incentives to sign on people and stuff.
00:48:51.000Yeah, a lot of times what you do is you vest the equity, meaning that you sign a contract saying, I'm going to work here for this amount of time, five years, and every year I'll earn a portion of my percentage of equity that I will be earning in total.
00:49:02.000So for me, it was 1% of the mine stock.
00:49:04.000Every year I would get like 0.3% or 0.2.
00:49:06.000And as long as I stayed at the company, I would keep accruing it.
00:49:10.000And if I left at any time, I'd have what I had.
00:49:11.000So let's say that $100 million deal for Rogan was outright because, you know, he still sells commercials on his show, right?
00:49:55.000Yeah, it has nothing to do with cancel culture.
00:49:57.000It has nothing to do... It's just literally like, how can I, you know, make sure this isn't going bad for everybody who's, you know, investing in this company?
00:50:20.000But I think, you know, part of the motivation is, you know, gotta, gotta protect his business, gotta protect his assets.
00:50:27.000And I don't, I, I think everyone just assumes, I've seen a lot of people on the left pointing this out, people on the right just assume Joe Rogan is on their side in this great culture war battle and he just happens to agree with him on a lot of things.
00:50:38.000But Joe Rogan is just a comedian and entertainer who talks about stuff he cares about.
00:50:41.000Don't expect him to jump in the line of fire for you.
00:50:44.000But at the same time, like, defending free speech, defending, you know, the unfiltered conversations that he has, I think it's important for our discourse.
00:50:51.000And I think it's even more important is that he gives another side of the story that very, very powerful institutions want to censor.
00:51:00.000And so the reason, you know, I think the reason, like, most people admire Joe Rogan and defend Joe Rogan, people on the right, I would say, is for those reasons.
00:51:07.000Because, like, you know, we believe in free speech, we believe That it's important to talk about things and that censorship is for weak people.
00:51:17.000Just thinking in terms of defending this idea of free speech without censorship, I think that's why the people on the right defend him in the way that they've been doing.
00:51:29.000Spotify CEO apologizes to staff for Joe Rogan controversy as episodes get removed.
00:51:34.000The CEO said that it was Joe who pulled the episodes, and they've gone on to announce that they will be investing, where is this thing, $100 million.
00:51:41.000The CEO of Spotify said they will invest $100 million for the licensing, development, and marketing of music and audio content from historically marginalized groups.
00:51:49.000I don't know exactly what that means, but I can tell you this.
00:51:52.000If Spotify takes $200 million and gives $100 to Joe Rogan and $100 to historically marginalized groups, on the surface, I could care less.
00:52:02.000The problem is, we're not getting more speech.
00:52:05.000Joe Rogan is conceding and apologizing and bending the knee and changing his positions, and the woke left is getting a massive influx of cash.
00:52:13.000So this is not more speech, it's the same old establishment talking points, and the one show, there's a reason why it's so big, Joe Rogan's show, the one show with a big enough footprint that actually moved the needle, that discusses anti-establishment talking points, is bending the knee, even if it's only a little bit.
00:52:32.000A lot of people pointed out when Joe said, I'll try my hardest to have, you know, if I have one person who's controversial, I'll have another expert following him.
00:52:41.000So the establishment mainstream media, which controls billions of views per month that everyone's already seen, and the one guy, the one time he gets a chance to speak out like Dr. Robert Malone on this audience, you're gonna give the establishment the rebuttal when they already own the entire narrative.
00:53:23.000Well, that's what Joe literally said in the first video he made, that a lot of the stuff that Dr. Malone and McCullough talked about a year ago would get you banned for, so he's not going to stop.
00:53:36.000Then what happens is these activists resurface a really old video, a compilation of out-of-context clips, And Joe said he felt bad about it and he apologized for it.
00:53:45.000The issue is, there's two fundamentally different worldviews.
00:53:49.000Joe is clearly of the worldview that we occupy.
00:53:52.000That there are certain contexts where describing things is okay.
00:53:56.000The other worldview claims that Joe used the slur simply by uttering its word in a descriptive context.
00:54:02.000Joe does not occupy that worldview, although he's claiming now he understands it and agrees with them.
00:54:06.000Does he really agree with them or is he scared of them?
00:54:08.000Because I'll be completely honest, I completely will openly admit, I recognize, there are conversations you can't have.
00:54:24.000It was kind of a part of our friend group and we would call each other really abusive names and like race, be racist and all this gross stuff.
00:54:30.000And then I learned somewhere in college, I went to theater school and it was very liberal.
00:54:43.000For the most part, I haven't done the racist, the hateful, not that it's hateful comedy, but I haven't made people the butt of my jokes since I was 2001 or something.
00:54:54.000Edgy comedy was all the rave in the 90s and 2000s.
00:54:57.000Now it's just... comedy is forbidden, man.
00:55:00.000Well, I mean, it's interesting, too, because especially in the late 90s, early 2000s, all of the edgy comedy was being done by left-wing people who were trying to promote a left-wing message, and on some level, I think that's why they were so successful in the culture war at that time.
00:55:13.000I think there's a simple solution to all of this.
00:55:16.000For one, look, Joe's got a really big show, and that's why this news is getting so much attention.
00:55:54.000One of the challenges we face is that we use YouTube for one of our, you know, key pieces of infrastructure, the live portion of the show.
00:56:03.000A lot of people have pointed out that we should use Rumble.
00:56:06.000It's true, the issue is Rumble is a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the audience that YouTube has.
00:56:11.000And while a lot of people have said, so what, just do Rumble anyway, I don't think people realize that I would say maybe like 70% of the people who watch this show are not super politically active people.
00:56:53.000Also, you have to think about why YouTube and Google are implementing a lot of these different censorship strategies.
00:56:59.000And the reason is because left-wing activists complain to them and say things like, you're allowing this person on this platform.
00:57:06.000And often they'll say, you're allowing people to be radicalized by this specific person on this platform.
00:57:11.000Someone who's come to YouTube for reasons that are totally non-political will see a Tim Pool video or a Freedom Tunes video or a Crowder video and they will get sucked down this deep dark rabbit hole.
00:57:21.000Now what the person is really saying is that other ideas are being given a voice on this platform and I don't like that.
00:57:27.000For our response to be, you know what, then we're just going to get off their platform and give them exactly what they want is in some ways for us to admit defeat.
00:57:35.000Yeah, it's like there's a big battlefield and, you know, the ranks are being flattened.
00:58:19.000Rumble has, for new channels in my opinion, an opportunity for growing an audience faster than YouTube does, and an opportunity for a style of content that is greatly missing in the market.
00:58:29.000I started making YouTube videos as content censorship was getting worse and worse and worse.
00:58:34.000Here we are with a big platform and a lot of people who watch, so I think it's important to maintain.
00:58:39.000But we do post everything to Rumble as well, and for TimCast.com we use Rumble infrastructure.
00:58:43.000If you're starting a new channel, look at Dan Bongino.
00:58:45.000Dan Mangino had 2 million subscribers on Rumble and only like 700 or 800,000 on YouTube.
00:58:51.000So if you're starting a new channel, I would say start it on Rumble.
00:59:02.000Then ultimately what it comes down to is, it's not about Joe, it's not about any individual, it's about infrastructure.
00:59:08.000It's about the ability of individuals to freely speak without having to worry about being banned.
00:59:14.000So, in the event we ever did get banned, oh yeah, we'd immediately be on, you know, Rumble, most likely.
00:59:19.000But, uh, you know, they're not perfect either.
00:59:21.000We'd still operate much the same way, and, you know, we'd probably just carry on, but there'd be a lot of people who'd be genuinely confused as to what happened to the show.
00:59:28.000They, you know, YouTube will probably lose some viewership, but man, I gotta tell you, When we are sick, or we have a cancellation, and so the show doesn't happen, we can post about why does it happen everywhere, and we still get emails from people saying, like, where's the show?
00:59:42.000I even get Facebook messages from family, like, where's the show?
00:59:44.000And I'm like, man, we literally post it on Twitter, on Instagram, on YouTube, like, we post it all over the place, and people don't see it.
00:59:50.000They just turn on the TV at eight, turn it off at 10, basically.
00:59:52.000A lot of people tell me they turn on their TV, open the YouTube app, and then watch the show live on their TVs.
00:59:57.000And we've also seen a whole bunch of images that was really funny.
01:00:00.000I think Luke, it was Luke, he was browsing Amazon.
01:00:13.000So anyway, look, the point is, we're beholden to YouTube for a lot of ways.
01:00:18.000But I like to imagine that we have extended some kind of bridge from YouTube to Rumble, to BitChute, to Gab, to Minds, to any of these other platforms where people can still communicate and share.
01:00:30.000So my advice is, anyone starting new channels, Rumble is your opportunity, not YouTube.
01:00:33.000I'm very interested in integrating Minds and Rumble.
01:00:55.000Well, it's like one of the things we do is we like, you know, the candidates that we work with and a lot of the, you know, organizations we work with are, you know, the big tech censorship is a very important issue to them.
01:01:04.000And so, like, when we work with a candidate, we want to steer, like, we want to steer them towards, you know, when we get this new GOP majority, we actually have to do something, change laws in Congress that can prevent big tech from doing politically motivated censorship.
01:01:19.000And, you know, because of the lobbying budgets they have, that's why it's never been done.
01:01:23.000Because a lot of, you know, unfortunately, it's a lot of Republicans who take money from
01:01:26.000these companies and then laws are never changed and the censorship continues.
01:01:29.000Is there a way to get that money out of politics?
01:01:31.000I will not know because we have citizens because we have the Citizens United case
01:01:36.000where corporations are considered people and they have free speech.
01:01:40.000There are campaign finance laws, like the FEC has laws, but there are ways around it just as there are ways around rich people when they pay their taxes.
01:04:32.000But I don't know if there's actually going to be a convoy to the Super Bowl.
01:04:38.000Other than I've seen more than just Wendy Rogers bring it up, I've seen people on Twitter and other forums actually say it would be a good idea and they'd want to do it.
01:05:02.000Plus, it's like the Winter Olympics, so it'd be like driving up a mountain or something.
01:05:05.000It's still crazy to me that, like, after just a year where China unleashed a pandemic on the world that killed millions of people, they've cracked down on Hong Kong, they've committed a genocide, And the world responds by sending all of their athletes there to compete in the Olympics.
01:05:20.000That's why people are gloating at all of these athletes who are getting injured and screwing up.
01:05:24.000There's that one Chinese-American woman who, uh, uh, she, she... What's the word?
01:05:31.000She abandoned... Are you talking about Aileen Gu?
01:05:38.000No, I'm talking about that woman who fell ice skating and she had renounced her American citizenship to skate for China instead of America.
01:05:59.000Because when you said that, I was thinking of... Here we go, yeah.
01:06:02.000Zhu Yi falls again, breaks down in tears at the Olympics.
01:06:06.000People are making fun of her because she gave up American citizenship, and now she's fallen twice, and people in China are mocking her and insulting her and laughing at her.
01:07:52.000All of these athletes who are agreeing to this, I'm sitting back with my feet up while they're all complaining about the conditions they have to go through.
01:08:00.000Because apparently communist China is unpleasant.
01:08:30.000These people who are willing to go to China to compete, every single one of them, they care more about a piece of gold on their neck than they do about concentration camps, about potential war and conflict, about what's going on in Hong Kong.
01:09:16.000So that's why I don't like I don't really blame.
01:09:19.000Anyone for doing this I blame, you know America for not standing up and saying no, we're not sending our people to China Well, why is it incumbent upon the government to stop athletes as individuals?
01:09:29.000I'm not necessarily government I'm talking about like, you know, the governing body of USA Athletics right if the USA came out and boycotted the Olympics, they'd be forcing all the yeah Yeah, it's like what the athletes could just choose not to go.
01:10:09.000I think you don't go I think what he's saying is that they have to make a large personal sacrifice But what I'm saying is even if you have to make a large personal sacrifice to do the right thing you should still do it And I blame them for not yeah, it's like how many how many?
01:10:22.000Like how many people murdered in genocide is too much for you as an Olympic athlete.
01:10:26.000You know I mean exactly Because clearly, because clearly, what's happening to the Uyghur Muslims, what's happened to Hong Kong, what they're threatening over Taiwan, it's not enough for any of these people to be like, yeah, maybe I don't go into Beijing on this one.
01:10:38.000And wouldn't it be funny if even a small fraction of all of the Olympic athletes were like, hey, we're not going to, we're not going to compete as individuals.
01:11:00.000And he made a global statement and that was a big deal.
01:11:03.000So there's a chance for people to go to China and be like, yo down with communism.
01:11:07.000But Nancy Pelosi is like, please don't do that because they're crazy over there.
01:11:10.000I don't like the whole go and protest at the event thing.
01:11:15.000You know, I said it before, I'm just like, maybe sporting should just be sporting.
01:11:19.000And because they're banning, like they announced they banned Black Lives Matter at these events.
01:11:23.000And I'm like, yeah, well, you know, maybe if people want to just go and compete and it doesn't have to be political all the time, every single time.
01:11:29.000However, I think it's also fair to then be like, you don't gotta protest there, but you also don't have to go there.
01:11:34.000You know, the Olympics have always been very neutral, even way back to Athens in the original Olympics.
01:11:39.000It was a time for all these different Athenian, or all these different Greek nations to come together, even if they were at war with each other, they agreed that they would let the athletes pass through their territory, even of countries they were at war with, to go to the Olympics.
01:11:50.000Because it was so fun, it was just like, that's the human, you know, we play.
01:11:55.000So what do you guys think of the World Cup?
01:11:57.000So we have the World Cup coming up too in November, and it's in Qatar.
01:12:01.000How many corpses are in the stadium in that building?
01:12:04.000So they had to move it, so usually it's in the summer, but they moved it to November because of how hot it gets there in the summer, and apparently there are reports that they're using slave labor to build the stadium.
01:12:11.000Oh yeah, of course, of course, for a long time.
01:12:13.000There are reports, I could be wrong about this, so affectionately, it's been a long time since I read about this, but corpses in the rubble as they're building, it's just like, oh, somebody died, well, bury over them!
01:12:39.000They've spent their whole life working towards a goal.
01:12:43.000There is nothing that will stand in their way.
01:12:45.000For these 18, 19-year-old Olympic athletes who are skiing or snowboarding, they're like, yo, look, I know that China has these Uighur Muslims, these women being raped by Han Chinese men and forced impregnated.
01:12:59.000I know they're doing forced abortions and sterilization, but I want to I don't care how many people they kill in those camps, right?
01:13:10.000I think it's a very sad reality and it's been difficult to see that in many cases people only care about morality insofar as their reputation requires it.
01:13:19.000And so we're at a place where I imagine most people would spend more time criticizing atrocities of the past like Nazi Germany or transatlantic slavery.
01:13:32.000Uh, then they would criticizing actual atrocities in the world that people won't pat them on the back so much for addressing Yeah, there's no sacrifice complaining about the past exactly and so I mean Again, is there a statistical analysis done on this?
01:13:46.000No, but based on the conversations I've had particularly with left-leaning people I think there is currently a lot more criticism going on about Nazi Germany, which ended in the 1900s, right, late 40s, than there is criticism of Communist China, which is actually engaged in genocide right now.
01:14:06.000Did you guys see the story about Savannah Guthrie?
01:14:43.000I can't remember who we had on the show.
01:14:44.000They were talking about how Elon Musk will say all these great freedom things on Twitter, but then he's also on Chinese social media praising China.
01:15:07.000Like getting a video of one of their reporters.
01:15:10.000The stories that have come out of China over what's happening to the Uyghur Muslims, I hope you guys realize it's on par with some of the worst atrocities we've ever heard of in the history of mankind, like forced abortions.
01:16:05.000It's incomparable to the Soviet Union or any of these other countries.
01:16:11.000The influence China has over the biggest corporations in the world, the biggest corporations in America who are just drunk on their Chinese dollars.
01:17:14.000So I'm wondering, where did this meme come from?
01:17:17.000And I'm not insinuating anything by it in terms of who made it.
01:17:20.000I'm just wondering, you know, why wouldn't it be clapping?
01:17:24.000I wonder if we evolved our bows to nods.
01:17:27.000Well, what I mean is that it has long been widely believed that China, they have something called the 50 cent armies, they propagandize on the internet, they get paid to do it.
01:17:37.000They're, you know, they're widely censored, but I think it's a fair assumption that part of the Cold War with China is that they're flooding our social media with divisive memes to create conflict and so division in this country.
01:17:52.000Now, the advantage they have is that they've greatly censored the internet, preventing the US from doing similarly.
01:17:59.000So imagine over in China, they're saying things like, the American people think they're free, they're not.
01:18:05.000There's that hilarious propaganda video of North Korea where they're like, homeless people, they starve, they have no healthcare, and things like that.
01:18:31.000And here we are gearing up for some kind of conflict over Taiwan.
01:18:34.000Well, for a lot of like Chinese college students who come to America, like my sister knew a few at her college.
01:18:38.000They, they, they didn't know what Tiananmen Square was before they moved here.
01:18:42.000They didn't know, you know, they didn't know about any of the, they didn't know what the Great Leap Forward was, how many people it killed before they came here.
01:19:23.000Someone superchatted something about BLM in China.
01:19:25.000We'll read it when we get to superchats, but I just think it's going to be funny when invariably we get some celebrity or some athlete at the Olympics who raises the red salute and then yells something for Black Lives Matter in a country that's for sterilizing minorities.
01:19:40.0001989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre.
01:19:42.000It's not the first thing that comes up when you search for it, even on DuckDuckGo.
01:19:58.000They're going to become the dominant global superpower.
01:20:01.000All the countries will become deferential to China instead of the U.S.
01:20:04.000China will expand military bases, they already are, all over the planet.
01:20:07.000And then the United States will be kind of much more like Russia. So our cost of living will go up dramatically, you
01:20:14.000know, we'll probably bring more labor and products will be manufactured in the U.S.
01:20:19.000But life will generally get harder for most Americans. I don't think it's a bad thing. I think
01:20:26.000American gluttony is resulting in this like lost generation.
01:20:32.000The millennial generation are the softest of soft we've seen in a long time, and that's probably why we're, you know, the fourth turning stress our generational theory.
01:20:39.000It's probably why things are getting bad in the first place.
01:20:41.000These are people who don't work, don't want to work, complain about the little work they have to do, and demand the government pay them free, you know, just give them money for no reason.
01:20:47.000The money comes out of the pockets of those who actually do work.
01:20:49.000Sorry, but if you live in New York and you work for BuzzFeed, you're not actually producing anything of value to society.
01:20:54.000And for that matter, I'll be completely real and say, I know a lot of people like this show, but damn, sometimes I'm surprised that we sit around a table talking about our thoughts and feelings, and we make more money than a plumber does.
01:21:06.000Plumber actually makes sure your poop goes away.
01:21:08.000That's, in many ways, the collective work of trades groups, electricians, machinists, as people noted before, substantially more value than even what we do.
01:21:16.000To be fair to us, I understand that defending liberty, freedom, and supporting the working class who are actually making everything possible is still a good thing.
01:21:26.000It's important to have a culture that maintains these values and ideas.
01:21:31.000But man, we sure got a whole lot of millennials who do literally nothing and completely It's also Gen X, a lot of people.
01:21:37.000It's the gut biome, I think, has destroyed motivation.
01:21:42.000Too much of that gunk in your gut and you just get up and it's like, I'm tired.
01:21:57.000Well, I mean, I would, I think it's more of a willpower thing.
01:22:00.000People are so well fed that they don't really have to hunger and they don't really chase things or seek out goals the way people of the past didn't.
01:22:09.000Ian, I sort of hear what you're saying.
01:22:12.000I wouldn't say that boredom isn't supposed to happen.
01:22:15.000I would say that it's something we're supposed to allow to happen so that we can find interesting things to focus on rather than just looking at our smartphone or seeing what's on television or browsing the internet.
01:22:44.000If every time that boredom starts to kick in, you look at your phone and start scrolling, you're never going to be productive.
01:22:48.000I don't think you're talking about boredom.
01:22:49.000I think you're talking about listlessness or laziness or relaxation.
01:22:53.000Yeah, I would define boredom as when, I think almost by definition, it's when you aren't sure what to focus on or nothing is grabbing your attention.
01:23:02.000I would say boredom is when nothing is grabbing your attention.
01:23:04.000I think that's a fair way of defining it.
01:23:09.000I think sometimes it's good to allow yourself to be in a situation where you're not sure what to focus on because that means you're not looking at all the traditional things that are grasping for your attention at all times and you're trying to find something deeper.
01:23:21.000You could be in a position where you're not focusing on anything, but not be bored, is a point I would like to make.
01:23:27.000Boredom, in my opinion, is a result of... it's luxury-based stagnation.
01:23:34.000It's that we live in such luxury that people can sit there and be like, I have literally nothing to do.
01:23:41.000Well, if you have a mission, if you have drive and you have purpose, you literally will never experience that.
01:23:45.000But for so many people, they have no purpose, boredom arises.
01:24:05.000You know, so, here's what I did today.
01:24:08.000I woke up immediately, got to work, finished work around two, immediately skated for two hours, ate food, and then sat for about an hour or so to try and just, like, rest.
01:24:33.000Yeah, I guess maybe we're defining the term differently, or maybe we disagree, but I think a little bit of boredom every now and again is healthy.
01:24:38.000I bet we're slightly defining it differently.
01:25:04.000Instead of sitting there and going, why don't I imagine a story?
01:25:07.000Why don't I start picking at a guitar?
01:25:09.000Why don't I learn an instrument or a hobby or something along those lines?
01:25:13.000You see, that's... For someone like me, I've, I've had, you know, I've been bored before for, you know, to a certain degree, but for, for the most part, I probably experienced substantially left boredom.
01:25:26.000And I think that's something you get when you're a kid.
01:25:28.000I think it's something you, you know, if you grow up with no purpose and no meaning, you're probably going to find yourself bored very, very often, unsure of what to do with yourself.
01:25:37.000For me, it was too much to do all the time.
01:26:11.000My mom wouldn't let us have soda in the house.
01:26:13.000So at the time I hated it because I always wanted sugar, sugar, sugar.
01:26:15.000And I'd go to the drug mart and get sugar and like Lemonheads and, you know, Spree and all this.
01:26:20.000But not having it in my diet helped me in later life.
01:26:24.000I used to make video games back in the day.
01:26:27.000I would do some Flash programming, I would do some... There was a thing called Click and Play, then Games Factory, and then Multimedia Fusion, I used those.
01:26:34.000But then, so when I wasn't doing that, I was playing Magic the Gathering, I was playing Pokemon, I was skateboarding, so I was literally always doing something.
01:26:42.000Just like, there was never a period of where I wasn't doing anything.
01:26:59.000It was, there was always somewhere to be.
01:27:00.000And then if I wasn't doing any of those things, there was like, just people to hang out with, talk about, and so we were always off on adventures.
01:27:07.000I gotta say, I think skateboarding is one of the most powerful things you can do for a kid.
01:27:10.000Because when I first started skating, first of all, it gives you drive and direction.
01:27:21.000Then, what happens is, there's fears to overcome.
01:27:24.000Dropping in on a halfpipe is scary, but you have to do it, and you're gonna fall the first time.
01:27:28.000Not everybody, but 95% chance you're gonna fall and get hurt, and you have to if you want to overcome that hurdle.
01:27:33.000Then the other thing that skateboarding does is, we started exploring.
01:27:36.000Me and all my friends would travel around, going to different neighborhoods, trying to find new places to skate, meeting new people, expanding our reach throughout the city.
01:27:44.000Then eventually I went to other cities and suburbs in other states, and then travel around the country.
01:28:07.000I know that it's such a boomer thing to say, but the only reason it's a boomer thing to say is because every generation before them said it, and it's like one of the wise things they actually retained, but kids just don't spend enough time outside anymore.
01:28:23.000Yeah, it's sad because what you're talking about going out and exploring with your friends
01:28:26.000I did similar things and we were fortunate because our parents didn't really want us to have game systems
01:28:30.000We didn't get them till we were a bit older. We didn't have cable in our house
01:28:33.000So we pretty much had to go outside and find things to do I knew so many kids in my generation and especially in the
01:28:38.000generation a little bit after me where The kids kind of didn't really develop a personality
01:28:44.000because all they were doing was focusing on electronics And I'm not saying that you can't develop skills or some
01:28:50.000personality with electronics either You know, you like you said you can learn to code you can
01:28:54.000learn to build computers That's all really productive
01:28:56.000But it's just sad that this sense of exploration has been lost
01:29:00.000Because so many kids will just find it in their video game system or nowadays in their smartphone
01:29:06.000Well, something that was, I think, really good for me growing up is I was an athlete.
01:29:10.000I think sports are a really important thing that you can do for a kid.
01:29:40.000One more thing I want to point out here, which is different between the time, and I know we're not all the same age, but the times, respectively, that we were all raised in, and how kids are being raised now, is even though we did have all sorts of, you know, distracting electronic gadgets, at least when you were outside, you were outside.
01:29:57.000Now with these smartphones, they're constantly online, even when they're outdoors.
01:30:03.000Like, they don't get to take a break from that technological infrastructure The way we could when we were kids.
01:30:07.000You could just kind of go out into the woods or go into the forest or go to your local pond with your siblings and really be in nature.
01:30:14.000And that's not possible anymore because they always have everything at their fingertips.
01:30:17.000I wonder if the Wi-Fi is agitating people too.
01:30:21.000The countries in this upcoming civil war, the barriers, the borders, they're digital.
01:30:27.000That's why, you know, Bill Maher was like, you know, we can't have a civil war because the Mason-Dixon line would go through Nana's kitchen.
01:30:33.000So, well sure, people are now polarizing based on the ideology they hold based on digital boundaries.
01:30:43.000There's a left bubble and a right bubble, and you can actually map it out.
01:30:45.000There's been these really great visualizations showing how they, like, clash and then spread out, and you have, like, the right, which is mostly the far right, is all, like, destroyed and banned.
01:30:54.000So you have, like, this big clump of, like, center-right, and then you have this huge splash of far-left.
01:31:00.000Those are the borders of the upcoming, or the current Cold Civil War, whatever you want to call it.
01:31:06.000I find that fascinating because there is an old George Bernard Shaw quote.
01:31:10.000He said, the class warfare of the future will be fought between competing intellectual classes for the souls of our children.
01:31:23.000When you were talking about sports and how great they are, I had an experience where when I was a kid in fifth grade, I used to play sports, soccer and baseball.
01:31:28.000And then my mom put me in baseball in fifth grade, but which they didn't do.
01:31:31.000I was like, can I go practice batting cage?
01:31:48.000Well, that's the thing about skateboarding, is that skateparks are typically free, open to the public, and there's tons of people there to hang out with.
01:31:53.000Yeah, it's more of a free, easy-to-practice sport.
01:31:59.000Like, it's not... Obviously, if your kid doesn't like it, or, you know, he doesn't enjoy it, then it's not... I actually really enjoyed it.
01:32:32.000Alright, I can't read the name of the first Super Chatter because YouTube blocks it off for some reason, but they said, The blockade at our legislative building in Regina, Saskatchewan.
01:32:41.000I was not, uh, I was not there, but last night, a crazy amount of police cleared them out.
01:35:56.000And then, you know, now they have dash cams and all that stuff.
01:35:59.000But if they were like, he uses horn improperly, I'd be like, oh, there was a fox.
01:36:03.000Also, how can they be scared out of the way, but I want to hit it.
01:36:05.000It's like unless they have footage They can't even prove that you honked at all.
01:36:08.000Yeah, I guess if they're wearing body cameras Yeah, people are saying now that apparently they're gonna go around with empty gas cans all over the place So the cops are forced to stop everybody, but they don't have anything brilliant.
01:36:18.000They always find a way man It's like the plants growing up out of the concrete Yep.
01:36:23.000It's like, you remember, I forget what European country this happened in, but there was like some European, like, city that banned fireworks.
01:36:30.000And there was like this video that went really viral on Twitter of just like millions of fireworks going into the air in the city.
01:37:57.000What if someone just writes a song that has a bunch of honking in it, and the song is just really, really low, but the honking is really, really loud?
01:38:06.000In the U.S., you need a permit to use a megaphone or any kind of electrical audio equipment in New York.
01:38:27.000You know what man? I Won't I won't look at it like so black and white I
01:38:35.000I can only just say if you're watching this show and you think we do a good job, you can thank Joe Rogan for helping make this possible.
01:38:42.000And that's, that's the important thing.
01:38:43.000If Joe decides that he's tired and he's, you know, he doesn't want to be involved in this, he's done so much good for everybody outside of literally helping us heal from sickness, helping, you know, Having me on his show.
01:38:57.000I understand me going on a show was good for him, too You know we have guests come on the show.
01:39:01.000It's good for everybody, but I Think I think he's done so much good like I'll put it this way out of 100 good that Joe Rogan has done There's like in my view like too bad You know what I mean?
01:39:12.000So it's like, I'm not gonna be mad at the guy.
01:39:15.000He's earned so much goodwill and credit for me.
01:39:17.000It sort of strikes me like how sometimes they'll come up and you'll say, is it worth sacrificing 99% of the things you can say so you can say that one thing that's gonna get you banned?
01:39:35.000Well, so that's the way I describe it.
01:39:37.000I'm like, you know, I tell people here, I've said it on the show, if there's a hundred things I want to say, one of them will get us banned.
01:39:43.000We'll say the 99 things and then put the one thing on the website for everyone to see, or we'll put it up on the podcast platforms on Sundays or whatever to try and make sure we're doing something to get it out.
01:39:53.000We do have a paywall for member content because the website costs money.
01:39:55.000It costs money every time someone watches a video when we're trying to grow the operation and do all that stuff.
01:40:37.000I think it's bad for him across the board.
01:40:40.000It's not, you know, he can do whatever he wants, you know, I think it was a mistake.
01:40:43.000I think it's a mistake as an apology, I think it's a mistake culturally, I think it's a mistake for the benefit of his business.
01:40:49.000I just don't see any scenario in which apologizing will do anything for him.
01:40:53.000If he's upset that he has friends like Dave Chappelle, and, you know, they don't like the fact that he said this word or whatever, he can say it to them, but doing the public statement only makes more people hate him.
01:41:06.000So it's like he got a little bit of taint, and now he's going in the water, and if he puts it out there, it's gonna spread out to a bunch of other stuff.
01:41:15.000You are standing on a big stage, and there are 11 million people all watching you and staring at you on the microphone.
01:41:22.000And then someone right in front of the stage is holding up a video of you doing awful things.
01:41:27.000So you look at it, take the microphone and go, Hey, there's a video right here to everybody who can hear me of me doing really awful things.
01:45:20.000And a big fan of Barstool Sports, just because they opened that new Barstool Sports book and they have, like, good chicken wings over at the casino.
01:45:34.000It would be super rad to have Dave come out.
01:45:37.000But he's a super famous, busy guy with so much going on.
01:45:41.000It's so hilarious and wild to me that Insider told one of their reporters to spend eight months interviewing every single woman that Dave Portnoy has ever had sex with.
01:45:55.000You have to track down every woman that a guy's ever had sex with.
01:45:57.000You find four, three or four, however many it was, who didn't even enjoy it, but he didn't do anything wrong, and then put it under a byline that suggests he's a sexual predator.
01:47:05.000In 1908, they would have just been trashed.
01:47:08.000A company would have been ripped to shreds for doing something like that 150 years ago.
01:47:13.000Isn't there that famous story that, like, after the Napoleonic Wars or something, the guy, like, rode on a horseback to England with a message that Napoleon had lost, but then they claimed that Napoleon won, so the stock collapsed.
01:48:34.000Zerocifer says, Ian, these people chose to live in the capital where protests will happen.
01:48:39.000Would you feel bad for people that chose to make a home next to an active volcano then complain that there is lava that makes their life hard?
01:49:04.000It started the heat, the singeing smoke came down and started to coat and burn everyone.
01:49:09.000But one guy, I think it was Pliny the Elder, had left the city, but he came back by boat to rescue his family, and when he got back to the city, he got killed by the volcano.
01:49:17.000So they mostly didn't get swept up in lava, wasn't it?
01:50:44.000There are three factions and you're trying to propagandize and manipulate people into gaining power.
01:50:48.000And then when you finally gain power, the wheel rotates and then your faction takes over.
01:50:53.000And then you can do marches and like, you know, propagandize and stuff.
01:50:57.000So you're like trying to figure out how to get the highest score?
01:50:59.000I'm gonna tell you about this Napoleon thing, get it out of the way.
01:51:03.000It's called the Napoleon is Dead, the Great Stock Exchange Fraud of 1814.
01:51:07.000And this is from thehistorypress.co.uk.
01:51:11.000For as long as they've existed, stock markets have attracted fraudsters.
01:51:14.000Early stock exchange scam involving one of the great seamen of the age, Lord Cochran, is a powerful and fascinating tale of greed, deceit, and public humiliation.
01:51:20.000In February 1814, news arrived in Dover that the French had been defeated and Napoleon killed.
01:51:26.000By the time the London Stock Exchange opened, the city was full of rumors of a great Allied victory.
01:51:29.000The price of government bonds rose so rapidly, and a syndicate of speculators took the opportunity to offload its recent acquired holdings at highly favorable prices.
01:52:12.000There was a, I saw a really great tweet from a, his name's Oren McIntyre.
01:52:15.000I don't think, I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right, but he tweeted, after failing in Afghanistan, the graveyard of empires, the ruling class has turned their attention to fighting a war in Russia in the winter.
01:52:29.000Rilo says Rogan most definitely took a side against cancel culture.
01:52:33.000He laid it all out when he had Alex Jones on his show.
01:52:38.000I'm confused by what that means though.
01:52:40.000Like you're saying he opposes cancel culture.
01:52:42.000I've seen clips of Joe, and I've seen enough of his show to think that he understands apologizing doesn't work, and I think he's even talked about it before.
01:53:31.000I was making a good amount of money on my own just doing like, you know, three videos or four videos per day.
01:53:39.000I was like, reading the news in the morning, I would be done by about 3 p.m.
01:53:43.000I'd have the rest of the day to do my thing and, you know, we'd go out to get pizza and we'd hang out, skate in the back, and then play Magic the Gathering.
01:53:51.000And then I was like, let's do more work!
01:53:54.000And now all of a sudden I have, we have this show, which is way bigger than I ever thought it was going to be.
01:53:59.000This show is way bigger than my main channel, which went from, you know, it's 10 times bigger than it, than it, you know, than it was before.
01:54:09.000We have all of this crazy business expansion.
01:54:11.000We have employees and I'm just like, I wonder if Joe is just sitting there thinking like, dude, I just want to smoke weed with my friends and talk about aliens.
01:54:34.000He popped in when we were in Austin, but you know, he's a busy guy.
01:54:37.000So, you know, man, part of me thinks there's a lot of philosophy.
01:54:43.000A lot of people say more money, more problems.
01:54:46.000A lot of people, you know, say like money won't make you happy and stuff like that.
01:54:50.000There's a fine balance between being a psychotic workaholic You know, like me, and then kind of accepting when you have a good salary and just having time to, you know, play with like playing games, card games with your friends and work on side projects and just chill.
01:55:06.000And then I've just been like, literally, I feel like if I, if I, if I feel I can't, it's painful for me to stop.
01:56:33.000If you really understood how billionaire people got, before it was even taxed.
01:56:37.000My story is that I wanted to buy 7,500 Bitcoin in 2011, and my friend told me not to do it because it was like worthless, you couldn't do anything with it.
01:56:47.000And I was like, yeah, sure, fine, you know, you're probably right.
01:56:49.000And then when it hit $5, I was like, no!
01:57:19.000I was just sitting there and I was like, every single time I say to myself that Bitcoin's too expensive, I realize I was an idiot and it's going to keep getting more and more valuable.
01:57:27.000So then when Bitcoin was at like a thousand, I bought a bunch.
01:57:30.000But a bunch is like, like literally like a bunch, like a small bundle that you could hold in your hands, like not that much.
01:57:35.000And so I got a good amount of crypto for sure, you know, but I wish I bought in 2011.
01:57:41.000No, dude, I know, and I was like very—this is back in my libertarian era, and so many of my fans were all into Bitcoin, like, I am absolutely one of the people who should have known.
01:58:26.000When the network is too small, it can branch off and to create two different networks that don't agree with each other and ignore each other and clash.
01:58:36.000And so we were like, there's some issues there.
01:58:37.000There's issues with cracking cryptography and things like that.
01:58:39.000And then I know people who are like, the government is awful.
01:59:24.000A true free thinker says, those that carry empty gas cans in Ottawa are like those that were on Thomas Crown Affair wearing the bowler hats and carrying briefcases.
01:59:37.000It's where he's, like, stealing the painting, and then, like, there's a ton of people who all look exactly like him running around, and the cops don't know which one is which and who to get.
01:59:45.000Yeah, that's, uh, what's his name's in that?
02:00:21.000Gromans says, Hi, I went to the Honkening in Ottawa on Saturday wearing my Step on Snek shirt and found Viva Livestreaming sent an email to pitches.
02:00:29.000It was the Step on Snek and Find Out shirt.
02:02:41.000and... The police officer, but it's almost more fun to just let people figure out, because a lot of times, not everyone watches the credits.
02:04:40.000Yeah, so when we came up with amphibia, that's not a real thing.
02:04:43.000This is the problem with accepting that you're wrong and being unsure of yourself, because if I was just confident and arrogant, like, nope, I'm right, don't care, don't, no, don't, I'm confident.
02:04:51.000I never should have said anything, Tim.