Dave Rubin joins us to talk about Dave Chappelle's Saturday Night Live monologue, the mail-in voting problem in Colorado, and why we should all vote for Donald Trump. Plus, the latest on the DeSantis vs. Lake campaign.
00:00:00.000So Dave Chappelle hosted Saturday Night Live and it was one heck of a monologue.
00:00:28.000Aside from the Kanye West commentary about Jewish people in Hollywood, which is being slammed, I guess, as anti-Semitic, whatever, Dave Chappelle, I couldn't believe it.
00:00:39.000He explained why people like Donald Trump and why they still do.
00:00:43.000And it was such a good point that I think he may have just helped Donald Trump right before we hear he may be announcing his presidential run.
00:00:54.000Chappelle was like, here's a guy who comes out and says all those things you think they're doing, we are doing it and they won't change it.
00:01:06.000I can't believe he said something like that.
00:01:08.000But of course, the media is pushing DeSantis versus Trump, which is probably way overblown.
00:01:11.000And then you've got the mail-in voting problem.
00:01:13.000So we'll take a look at what's going on.
00:01:15.000Maybe you noticed there's a story from Newsweek where they said they're going to, quote unquote, fix ballots in Colorado and then Lauren Boebert will likely lose.
00:01:23.000Because many ballots were rejected, so once they cure those ballots, well, then the Democrat will take over.
00:01:29.000So we'll talk about that, plus a bunch of other stuff.
00:01:31.000Carrie Lake is being advised, so we here—I don't trust the media—that she's not going to win this, because the vote's closing and her lead is still fairly decent.
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00:03:37.000You know, when I met you the first time, you were a little journalist, you were a guy with a camera, and you had a little attachment on your phone to make it prop up and I had never
00:03:46.000seen that before and you had a beanie I was like, what's this guy doing? Still do what's this guy
00:03:50.000doing? And now you're running like the biggest media empire this side of West Virginia, a
00:03:57.000fraction of the size of the daily wire, but you know, this side of West Virginia, you're
00:05:12.000Yeah, but you know, I think the side that we occupy is very broad, and even your haters watch.
00:05:19.000Whereas with the left, you know, they won't even bother to listen to the context or try and get the information.
00:05:24.000I've come to love my haters actually because they drive a lot of clicks at the end of the day, you know what I mean?
00:05:28.000And I always think it's funny that there's a certain set of people that are so obsessed with everything that I say or any pause that I make or if I slightly stammer over a word or a thought or they'll edit things to say, you know, to take the word not out or something like that.
00:05:43.000And I'm like, this is what you guys are doing all day for me?
00:05:47.000Like, for me, like, you know, it's hilarious in a way.
00:05:53.000I don't think you really do any of that too, right?
00:05:54.000Like, there's a devoted group of people that hate me and you because we're thought of as sort of, like, ex-lefties that are red-pilled, something like that.
00:06:18.000Because people... I was like, if we did a show about commenters, commentators, how is that relevant to the average American?
00:06:25.000How is it to the average person who's trying to...
00:06:28.000You know, it's funny, so I don't even talk about the Young Turks, which people always used to ask me about the Young Turks, because obviously that's where I started at the political level in L.A.
00:06:36.000or whatever, and I never comment about them, but they do all these videos about me all day long, okay, fine, but then finally on election night, Did you see that jank tweeted out that he that the power
00:07:43.000Yeah, I don't know about you guys, but everyone loves me.
00:07:48.000Especially in the comment section, I'm there with you guys, and today I'm wearing a shirt that says, y'all went from sheep to lab rats, which makes for a perfect conversation for Thanksgiving, family gatherings.
00:08:00.000You could say a lot without really speaking, and from the testimony from the European Parliament, from the news report by NBC News, from everything that we saw in the last two years, it's absolutely true.
00:08:11.000If you agree, get the shirt on thebestpoliticalshirts.com, because you do.
00:10:02.000They say Chappelle pivoted about halfway through his monologue to the topic of Trump, remarking that, quote, I'm watching the news now, and they're declaring the end of the Trump era.
00:10:11.000He then melded his acerbic comedy with a simple truth that everyone wishing Trump would disappear from the political landscape needs to hear, Trump's base hasn't come close to abandoning him.
00:10:21.000I live in Ohio amongst the poor whites.
00:10:24.000A lot of you don't understand why Trump was so popular and very loved.
00:10:27.000He goes on to mention, Trump says, I know the system is rigged because I use it.
00:10:32.000The comedian then joked about how Trump accused during the debate with Hillary Clinton of not paying taxes and shot back, that makes me smart.
00:10:39.000Chappelle shared that for many working class Americans struggling to make ends meet, Trump's honesty in revealing the rich and powerful have been taking full advantage of a system designed for their benefit only enhanced his stature.
00:10:50.000And then he said, Chappelle pointed out that Trump looked at her and said, and you won't change the laws because your friends benefit from it too.
00:10:58.000And when I heard Dave Chappelle say that, I'm like, that wasn't a joke.
00:11:02.000That wasn't anything other than powerful insight and a sales pitch.
00:11:07.000When I heard him say that, it reminded me of the 2016 election, what Trump was on about.
00:11:15.000And then I was just like, yeah, I kind of liked it.
00:11:17.000He really made me, he really created a positive image of Trump.
00:11:22.000They say Trump's going to announce his running tomorrow.
00:11:24.000And the weekend before, Chappelle comes out and says, this thing Trump did, which is really, which is really, really good, people respect.
00:11:33.000Chappelle's comments were very close to what Michael Moore said in 2016, specifically when it came to middle Americans and blue-collar workers going for Donald Trump because he represented the larger ideas of the American working class, which he was representatively standing up for.
00:11:48.000But then Dave Chappelle also made a joke about Donald Trump taking out his Illuminati card, sniffing some cocaine, and then Telling everyone how they're playing the game and then ... when inside the White House and then started playing the ... game which I thought was also another important point there ... but this could be one reason why he's being criticized as ... quote anti-semitic and and promoting anti-semitism right ... now by the ADL which I think is absolutely ridiculous.
00:12:11.000What he mentioned in his comedy skit, I think, was perfectly navigating a very sensitive topic.
00:12:16.000He made everyone laugh about a very tough issue.
00:12:19.000And I think his representation of what happened to Kyrie Irving and Kanye West was also something important.
00:12:25.000A couple days ago on my members area, I was talking about how Dave Chappelle was on Oprah, talking about how people were trying to drug him, so he had to escape the huge contract that he was under and literally went to Africa.
00:12:37.000This is also something very similar that happened to Kanye West.
00:12:39.000So, There's something to really think about here when it comes to people who are anti-establishment, people who are breaking from the matrix, people who are coloring outside of the box and are now being heavily criticized and attacked.
00:12:50.000Well look, you color outside the box on anything and they're going to come for you.
00:12:53.000Remember, when Rogan had Dr. Malone on, What happened the week after?
00:12:59.000The entire mainstream media is saying Rogan is a racist and they're releasing all these videos of him saying the n-word not because he was actually racist but because he was making fun of the user of the people that use the n-word but that's what the system does but I think actually what you said about the timing is most interesting because it's like wait a minute We all saw that in 2016.
00:13:20.000I did vote for him in 2020, and there's certainly a chance I'll vote for him again next time if that's where we're at.
00:13:25.000But it's interesting because Chappelle, he must have known that then, and yet in the same monologue Chappelle says, I think he said twice, I'm a Democrat.
00:13:36.000So it's like, well, A, what still makes you a Democrat?
00:13:40.000Or maybe that's his way of just throwing a little something so that he's not ousted immediately from the power structure or something like that.
00:13:46.000But also it's like, where were you for these last six years when Trump was doing all of those things that you're crediting him for?
00:13:54.000So it's one of those things where it's like, all right, you got to the party, so we'll take it.
00:14:00.000There's the IQ bell curve thing of Trump, I think.
00:14:03.000Actually, that's probably a bad way to put it, but when you start to really dig in deep into Trump's administration, you get a little soured by it, like John Bolton.
00:14:12.000And I think Bolton was because of Sheldon Adelson he was getting money from.
00:14:17.000When you actually look at the dark nitty gritty, you're like, meh.
00:14:20.000My view of it is the Trump administration, I said this before, Trump was the best president of our lives.
00:14:26.000That doesn't mean he was a good president, you know, whether you think he is or not is entirely up to you.
00:14:30.000My point was that, name another president in my lifetime, in our lifetimes, who did a better job.
00:14:34.000The economy was great, he was getting our troops out of the Middle East, the foreign policy was generally improving, the Abraham Accords, peace with North Korea.
00:14:41.000And I'm like, that was all good enough for me in 2020 to say I will vote for him, because I don't like voting against people.
00:14:46.000Look, we had all-time lowest Black unemployment, all-time lowest Latino unemployment.
00:14:51.000The moment for me that like really kind of started the shift, because it took a while, because everybody kind of has their own little journey to get there, for me was that State of the Union address when he's talking about lowest all-time Black and Latino unemployment, and then they flash to the Congressional Black Caucus, and they're sitting there with scowls on their faces, and it's like, wait a minute, I thought if you guys want one thing, it might be for Black people to have jobs.
00:15:19.000They hate you so much they will vote for John Fetterman.
00:15:24.000People walked into, I say walked into a booth, I guess nobody walks into a booth anymore, people go to the Dropbox or whatever they do, they mail in their 18 ballots to vote for Fetterman.
00:15:45.000And I know everybody watching this, save for a small minority who for some reason are watching, do not like this woman, despise this woman.
00:15:53.000Imagine who you would be willing to support to get rid of her.
00:16:21.000But I will also stress too, because I pointed this out, and I think you probably agree, Republicans are never going to win again so long as universal mail-in voting is the rule of the land.
00:16:31.000Because people who are disinterested from voting, who normally don't care, are having ballot harvesters knock on their door and say, did you fill that out?
00:16:41.000Then they put it in the mailbox, or the ballot harvester collects it, and a person who normally wouldn't vote and has no interest in voting is now voting, and it's creating this ignorant voter base that votes just by letter.
00:16:51.000Well, let's say most likely everyone watching this can agree that to some extent there's something shady going on there.
00:17:53.000That's banana republic shit, when literally five days later, or whatever, no, five days, what am I saying?
00:17:59.000It's now, we're seven days out, basically.
00:18:01.000Well, again, one of the reasons why Florida got it right is because back in 2000, when the election wasn't counted on election night, people lost their ish.
00:18:11.000Now it's slowly being normalized, which is absolutely crazy.
00:18:14.000But after that Gore-Bush debacle in Florida, the state of Florida invested a lot of money into voting.
00:18:21.000Ron DeSantis also specifically passed a law banning Zuckerbucks, what he called specifically money from Facebook, Into Florida and I think that also made a very big impact on the state because Mark Zuckerberg spent hundreds of millions of dollars making sure that there was mail-in ballots ballot harvesting and all that money all that financing wasn't available in Florida because Ron DeSantis stopped it and I think that is what helped him win here when almost everyone else lost.
00:18:48.000Tim, do you think that part of it is also that they want people to not have faith in the system?
00:18:52.000So they love all of this, not just because they're doing it better than Republicans, but it's also to break the average person to just be like, none of it works.
00:19:55.000We're trying to, I mean, you're a great example of it, because you moved a couple times to places to do the work that you wanted to do, because, right, you didn't want to do it in Jersey.
00:20:38.000He says, Every single county moved further right in New York this year.
00:20:42.000If it comes down to just a few seats, New York Democrats and backlash to Democratic policies, rule in New York will have cost them the House.
00:20:57.000And I told you right before we started that over the last, I think it's three years in New York, they've lost over 550,000 people.
00:21:04.000So if you just look at that math alone, Zeldin had people not moved, but you know, you have to put in a zillion factors because COVID made everybody crazy and everything else.
00:21:59.000I don't know about Georgia, people moved there, but you know, Kemp defeated Abrams handily.
00:22:03.000DeSantis gets this double-digit win, and everyone says things like he's a good leader, he had good messaging, he cleaned up the voting laws and rules.
00:22:12.000All true, but also consider all the political refugees who went there and wanted to vote for him.
00:22:19.000So there's some good and there's some bad, and the bad is...
00:22:22.000I was worried about this, that if people were going to be fleeing, it would make red areas redder, and then you leave New York, it becomes bluer.
00:22:32.000In some respects, though, that's how this whole thing was set up to be, right?
00:22:36.000I mean, the idea of federalism, that the states will be extremely different experiments of democracy, and you will go somewhere that is in line with your values, that's really how it was supposed to be, you know?
00:22:46.000Putting even New York aside, because they tried at least, Cali just, it's just never coming back.
00:22:52.000But if that's what they want, you know, I still have some friends that live there.
00:22:56.000But it's like, if that's what you want, I don't know what makes us united anymore.
00:22:59.000And unfortunately, the blue states will always encroach on the red states.
00:23:02.000Florida doesn't want anything from a blue state.
00:23:04.000The blue states will want the tax money and all the resources of the functional red states.
00:23:10.000That's what I think the next frontier is.
00:23:11.000But on the other hand, we have to understand, Florida was a purple, is, I think was a purple state, now is a red state.
00:23:17.000But Ron DeSantis barely won his first time around.
00:23:24.000And now this larger transition from New Yorkers to Florida, I think has solidified Florida as a red state.
00:23:30.000I think there's like a... But it's not what they want.
00:23:32.000Sorry. You said if that's what they want in California, but it's not. What's happening is with the
00:23:39.000way their election system works, the more they weaken it. Now they want to allow non-citizens
00:23:43.000to vote. A weakened election system means that for all of the selfish, disinterested voters,
00:23:50.000they negate the patriotic, hardworking American vote.
00:23:54.000So for every one of you out there who knows what's going on, wants energy policy fixed, wants economic policy fixed, doesn't want our borders open, your vote is negated by some guy who's playing Grand Theft Auto's house when he hears a knock on the door, and someone walks up and says, couldn't help but notice that you got your mail today!
00:24:22.000That one person who didn't care cancelled your vote.
00:24:25.000Even, kind of, but what's happening is they're voting for people to go do what you think they're gonna do and then they end up not doing it because they get bribed.
00:24:32.000Like, this idea that we're in the best system and this is the way it's supposed to be, I think, is really messing with people.
00:24:38.000People think that they're in the This is it.
00:24:40.000I don't think we need, like, we only built a Republican, like, representative house because we needed to, because people couldn't represent themselves.
00:24:56.000We need a republic that's direct to the people so that we don't have these middlemen that are getting bought out by Corporations.
00:25:01.000Well, in essence, you want localism and you want federalism.
00:25:05.000So I agree with you, actually, that it's not that look, first off, California has basically the most Republicans in the entire country just because of the size of the state.
00:25:13.000So it's not that all of these people want what they're getting there.
00:25:16.000I would word it a little bit differently.
00:25:18.000I would say at some point you got to just see what day it is, what time it is, and you got to get going.
00:25:24.000And to me, if you are a freedom loving person who wants to own a business and feel safe and And not have genderqueer jam down your kid's throat and everything else.
00:25:42.000They all shifted towards the Republican Party.
00:25:45.000If you didn't need to send your votes from, say, Utica, uh... to the the secretary of state or whatever determine
00:25:52.000which individual run the state but instead
00:25:55.000you in utica voted for what you wanted then uh... i guess the idea saying is that
00:26:01.000your your more look more likely have your voice heard as an individual every
00:26:03.000time it would be heard but it's not it's not direct democracy it's the district
00:26:07.000gets a vote So if there's a member of Congress representing a district, instead, the district does a vote per issue or something like that.
00:26:15.000Yeah, so everyone in the district would vote yes or no, and then the district would be decided by that vote, that would go to the Senate, basically.
00:26:20.000So Congress would be passing a bill, and then the vote would go out to everyone to see online, and then you'd vote in your district, and your district would get a vote based on region.
00:26:31.000There's some pros and there's cons in this concept.
00:26:34.000I mean, for one, it still ultimately comes down to ignorant people who don't care will end up voting.
00:26:40.000But, counterpoint, it would require the ballot harvesters to go out seven times a week to try and win these votes and they wouldn't be able to do that.
00:26:50.000Well, that's one of the reasons that the ballot harvesting works because they're going to blue cities, blue cities.
00:26:54.000These are Democrats who want more control.
00:26:56.000They want more government in their lives.
00:27:09.000We're staring at a freaking completely red map with one little tiny dot of blue that people probably can't even see if they're on their phone, and that is now governed by a Democrat.
00:27:25.000A Democrat who was one of the worst, I would say the worst three, her, Newsom, and Whitmer, one of the worst three when it came to lockdowns and everything else.
00:27:33.000And the week before in the debate, she freaking said she would do it all again.
00:27:50.000You leave New York, which makes it, you're basically clearing all obstacles for these
00:27:55.000people to solidify these rules and make them crazier and worse.
00:27:58.000You leave, they will never lose again.
00:28:01.000You go to Florida, you protect Florida.
00:28:03.000Florida and Texas seem to be doing okay, but all the other states are now suffering and moving further and further towards authoritarianism.
00:28:09.000No, you might have to cede some ground.
00:28:32.000Oh, they're gonna be homeschooled, or we'll figure out some pod thing.
00:28:34.000Although, that being said, Florida actually has pretty damn good schools because of Mr. DeSantis and his don't-say-gay, and they booted all that stuff out of the schools.
00:28:43.000So there actually are pretty good public schools in Florida.
00:28:46.000I don't know what we'll do exactly, but I would be less concerned about that in Florida, which was the joke, because Florida has no state income tax.
00:28:55.000And DeSantis also got involved in local school board elections and actually gave out recommendations for candidates that he wanted to win, which made a big impact, which is affecting the schools down there.
00:29:22.000She seems to think that black people can't get IDs.
00:29:25.000I know a lot of black people, every single one of them.
00:29:27.000But when she was like, he gamed the system, he arrested people who committed fraud, and then credit the police, it's like, what do you think you're saying to people right now?
00:29:35.000I really want to bump into her at a restaurant one day.
00:29:37.000She's on my short list of people that I would say something really crazy to.
00:29:45.000She vacations down to Miami all the time.
00:29:48.000She had her own people masked up in New York, and she went to that freaking drag bar in Miami Beach, and then they paraded her around like she was a queen.
00:30:08.000You know, I don't know if I agree with the get rid of the House of Reps, but I do agree that just because we created this system, which has been one of the best so far, or if not the best, It doesn't mean we stop here.
00:30:47.000And then the only issue then, if the federal government is not that powerful, is that the blue states don't somehow encroach on the red states.
00:32:37.000No, look, I recognize that the way the district system is, it's not going to be fixed for eight years when the new census comes in because of all the people who moved around and everything like that.
00:32:46.000There's a reason why a state is red or a district is red.
00:33:48.000Because people live there, and their resources need to be protected based on their interests.
00:33:51.000Yeah, I mean, you just drive north from L.A.
00:33:54.000Drive from New York to San Francisco and the amount of signs you see on all of the farmland, hey, what are you guys doing to our water, basically, the proof's right there.
00:34:16.000And a lot more people on the West Coast who are dealing with water crises.
00:34:19.000And they want that fresh water, and they don't care how they get it.
00:34:22.000So, let's put it up to a vote, Chicago, Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, and then see how long the Great Lakes last when Arizona says, don't know about your problem, don't care about your problem, we thirsty.
00:34:34.000Because there's already been issues going back 10, 20 years where Western states who are in drought say they have a right to the Great Lakes, which are an American resource, and one of the only things that's stopping them from actually getting it is Canada.
00:34:46.000Ontario, which is part of the Great Lakes Coalition.
00:34:49.000This is why I'm like, hey, there's a reason why Illinois has rights over their resources and you can't vote them away from them.
00:35:39.000It's people that have the resources to leave that are functioning, that are looking at the numbers and going, boy, it just doesn't make sense here.
00:35:46.000The fact that I'm saving money by living in Florida now is crazy to me.
00:36:24.000No, but the property tax, yes, they do have high property taxes, but it's not, it's certainly not making up for what they're losing in income tax at the end of the year where they just take 10% of your money or whatever it might be.
00:36:53.000But at the same time, we're a unification of states.
00:36:56.000There's no reason that Nebraska should not have access to the state water.
00:37:00.000So we're kind of in a... I mean the bigger problem actually is that we're just we're in a massive culture war as you guys know.
00:37:07.000These people live in another planet than us.
00:37:09.000There are people that want to be locked down.
00:37:11.000There are people who wanted to be injected and force other people to be injected and then at the same time say my body my choice.
00:37:17.000We are living in completely separate worlds and how you put those people together mentally You know, sort of spiritually and mentally to live in a country, but then physically do it too?
00:37:31.000Have you seen, have you seen, but this, you know, I don't comment on the Young Turks or other leftist commenters as any kind of drama or anything like that.
00:37:41.000I think there's a really interesting political point to be observed in Cenk Uygur's tweets and the production path he's taking.
00:37:47.000You notice that he interviewed Matt Gaetz.
00:38:51.000When you did that, you know, why I left the left thing, PragerU was massive.
00:38:57.000They started coming after you saying, oh, he's faking it, he's a grifter and all that stuff.
00:39:01.000And then we mentioned this early on in the show, here you are in Florida, in your studio, ever successful, and the Young Turks' power went out, and they had to complain about how the mayor has failed them.
00:39:12.000If they saw what you saw, or at the very least they did, but if they accepted that it was true, and were willing to say what is true, they would not be in a place where their power is going out.
00:39:21.000Now they're changing their opinions though.
00:39:23.000Yeah, so I mean I have no need to really talk about them, but I would say that I swear to you with every fiber of my being that all I did was do what I thought the right thing was along the way and then make the choices according.
00:39:35.000So I started talking to people that were different than me, right?
00:39:38.000Like every day they'd be saying Ben Shapiro and Larry Elder and Dennis Prager and Glenn Beck, they're racist and blah blah blah.
00:39:44.000And it was like, all right, well, let me talk to these guys and see what happens.
00:39:46.000And then I started talking to them and I go, boy, well, I guess I do disagree with them on some stuff.
00:39:50.000And I still have certain, absolutely, you have disagreements with them on a bunch of different things, but they're nice, they're generous of spirit, they're kind, they want to live in a country with people that are different than them.
00:39:59.000And then I just kept going down that road.
00:40:01.000And then, you know this too, because you did the same thing.
00:40:04.000You go down that road long enough, and then you're like, well, wait a minute, now I want my life.
00:40:26.000And that was the day I had wanted to leave for about a year, but I was really trying.
00:40:30.000You know, the riots had gone right by my house, so I actually moved, because I was like, if I move up the hill, maybe I'll be a little safer, but whatever.
00:40:36.000Then I got the hell out, and now it's working, because I followed the true path.
00:40:41.000I think there's similarities and a bit of differences between how we sort of approached it.
00:40:46.000For me, I'd put it like, I grew up in Chicago, and there's no Republican Party.
00:40:51.000So the only thing you know is Democrats, and you hate them.
00:40:56.000As a young person growing up, it was anarcho-punk, far-left, skateboarding, et cetera, and the Democrats were evil, and we didn't really know much about Republicans.
00:41:09.000And then you go out in the suburbs, and you're like, there was no, when I grew up, I had no negative thoughts about Republicans, because they were non-existent.
00:41:17.000It did not impact, for the most part, anything going on, because it's super-majority Democrat across the board.
00:41:22.000So when I get older, I end up meeting a bunch of people on the suburbs outside of the city who are Republican and I have no ill will or ill thoughts toward them because they did not play a factor in urban Chicago living.
00:41:32.000And then I start hearing their opinions and I'm like, at this point I'm eating chicken dinner with my friend's family who are conservative and I don't know anything.
00:41:40.000And so then I start shifting from this young urban, you know, skateboarding, far lefty activist into more of like a moderate liberal position where I'm like, okay, I totally understand what these people are saying.
00:41:52.000Never actually talked to him about it.
00:41:54.000And then, as I get older, what do you see?
00:42:01.000And then, what ends up happening is, it's not so much that people decide to become conservative, but that conservative became a much bigger tent.
00:42:10.000So I go to the Deplora Ball in 2017, and two people are there.
00:42:19.000We were big Bernie bros, but now that it's Trump, saw the same thing in Anaheim.
00:42:22.000That red pill's a beautiful thing, man.
00:42:24.000But it wasn't so much that these people were, I mean, they were liberal hippies, but Bernie Sanders was their choice, and with no Bernie, it's certainly not going to be Hillary Clinton.
00:42:34.000Trump was the other guy who was talking about fixing our borders and bringing jobs back and protecting unions, so he was the guy.
00:42:40.000So people end up voting for him not because they're far right, but because he was closer to their values as a populist.
00:42:47.000And then, of course, the weird, insane cult left accuses anybody who opposes them of being right-wing.
00:42:53.000So now, all of a sudden, you and I are conservative, I guess.
00:42:55.000I mean, you may have actually gotten more conservative.
00:42:58.000Yeah, well, first off, by no stretch am I a traditional conservative by the way anyone understands the word conservative.
00:43:05.000I mean, I wrote a book, my first book.
00:43:07.000was a complete defense of classical liberalism.
00:43:10.000And, you know, if you went through everything in my book, it's all the stuff that Bill Maher would agree with.
00:43:14.000I just don't think it can stand on its own anymore.
00:43:17.000So I do think we do need a new alliance and we're doing it right now of sort of ex-libs and conservatives and libertarians and caps and all of these people.
00:43:27.000It's basically we all have to save the country and then we'll deal with our problems after.
00:43:32.000I think that's basically where we're at.
00:43:33.000You know, regarding is Trump the guy, this is kind of what we talked about at the beginning of the segment.
00:43:37.000What happens is, you know when you try and start your car while it's already going?
00:43:40.000And it just... Like, Trump was the spark.
00:43:43.000Trying to spark the machine right now is not the move.
00:44:44.000All right, so it sounds like we don't fully understand what it is, but all right, let's... And that's a fair point.
00:44:48.000Okay, so let's... But I'm not even coming out as that as a principal negative for DeSantis, mostly because it's not something I know enough about to criticize him on.
00:44:57.000Admittedly, we definitely want to make sure we check into something like that, because...
00:45:00.000Sure, if he was infringing on any free person's speech, then I would have a problem with it.
00:45:05.000But the government is allowed to tell government employees what they're allowed to do, something like that.
00:45:09.000So I would need to know more about this.
00:45:10.000This was based in university and schools.
00:45:12.000Specifically, if a school would support or allow someone to criticize or boycott Israel, he would punish the school and take away their funding.
00:45:20.000But I think it had to do with... And Donald Trump also had similar points of views and viewpoints that he also supported as well.
00:45:25.000So it's a Trump-DeSantis issue that they stood behind.
00:45:29.000I think we are all too weakly versed on the issue specifically, but I do think it's important to bring up... But let's even say it was a pretty bad thing.
00:45:37.000To entertain the possibility that there are things we don't like about him that we're not well versed on, I think, is a fair point.
00:45:41.000However, my view of DeSantis is, to be honest, I can't think of a negative.
00:45:45.000However, when you compare DeSantis to Trump in the event that they go up against, you know, when they're on the stage, Trump is an imposing figure of grandeur who can... The way Milo put it is that when he gets his mojo back, he dominates the stage.
00:46:04.000He commands, he pushes everyone out, he shuts them down.
00:46:07.000Now that is not a policy or a practical advantage.
00:46:22.000Now knowing the degradation of Biden and how bad he is, and it was obvious he was bad at the time, but he didn't really crush him in those debates.
00:46:30.000So for some reason, Trump seems to be better when there's multiple people on stage and there's a fray, right?
00:46:35.000And he can then just sort of hit everybody.
00:46:38.000But the one-on-one thing was not his thing.
00:46:40.000But also, at the end of the day, the biggest weakness is that, yes, is Trump more of a, I'm going to get in the ring with you and say all of the horrible things and dig up all of the evil shit and all of that?
00:46:53.000To me, I don't know that most people see that as a positive anymore.
00:46:56.000I think people would actually look at it and be like, wait a minute, Trump.
00:46:59.000What you're trying to do here is take out the guy who has done absolutely everything right, using just all of the worst tactics.
00:47:06.000I just don't know that that would fly anymore.
00:47:08.000I like what you said earlier when we were downstairs in the green room.
00:47:41.000Trump also came out a few days ago and says that he has dirt on DeSantis, that his wife doesn't even know that he's going to be releasing to the general public.
00:48:19.000Trump proved you can sleep with hookers and you can grab them by the pussy and you can
00:48:22.000do all that stuff and we'll still vote for you.
00:48:24.000So if his move is, well, DeSantis has done kind of all the policy, right?
00:48:28.000So I can't get him on that, but I'm going to dig up something to derail him.
00:48:33.000I think it's gonna have more blowback than... And it has, and it has right now, especially with these numbers that Tim is showing, but also I would question the numbers because the numbers in the polls have been wrong.
00:48:42.000But the conversation, in my opinion, should be the anti-establishment versus McCarthy, McConnell, but it's not.
00:48:49.000It's the anti-establishment versus the anti-establishment wing of the party kind of having a civil war within each other, destroying each other, rather than, of course, building and growing and, of course, fighting the bigger fights out there.
00:48:59.000Fighting themselves and essentially eliminating and destroying any potential of a populist surge that could be there.
00:49:06.000Well, to that point, I mean, we don't even know if DeSantis is going to run.
00:49:28.000Maybe my life is to just fortify the place that I love and do great things there.
00:49:32.000Like, we don't know what his plans are.
00:49:34.000But when he was asked directly, he gave a perfect political answer.
00:49:39.000Not answering the question, avoiding it, during the debate as governor, which made it seem exactly like he's going to be running, like any politician would.
00:49:46.000So let me give you some insider context on that.
00:49:48.000I was actually at the debate, and right before the cameras started, they announced to the crowd that was in the room, they said, the candidates have agreed and signed a document saying that they will not ask each other questions.
00:50:00.000So when DeSantis just stood there, it was because he was honoring what they signed.
00:50:05.000Charlie Crist has no morals or anything else.
00:50:07.000So Charlie Crist knew exactly what he was doing.
00:50:09.000That's not to say DeSantis shouldn't have had a better response.
00:50:39.000Because if in the event in the future things change, he can say something like, I know I vowed to be here for the state of Florida, but I decided I can be.
00:50:48.000As the president of the United States, I can do more for Florida and for the rest of this country, and I will make sure that Florida stays true, you know, stays with my heart and I will always be there for you.
00:50:55.000I think that advice probably would have been better than to, he sort of did just freeze in the moment, but he was trying to honor the agreement that they had just signed.
00:51:02.000And you know, that's the problem when you, when you play with one guy that has rules.
00:51:20.000He would have done something like that.
00:51:22.000That would have worked in the debate context.
00:51:24.000So your point basically is that even if DeSantis has everything right, and let's just say minimal downside, it's like he might get just crushed in the theater of the thing.
00:52:18.000When we play the music videos, these political ads would pop up where They're just lying, and it's the craziest lies I've ever heard, and I'm just thinking to myself, how do they get away with saying things that are so... Look, I get it, you can have your opinion in politics, and it's hard, you know, you've got Times v. Sullivan defamation precedent stuff, but when you come out outright and be like, my opponent said X and he didn't, it's just kind of a crazy thought.
00:52:42.000I'm just like, you know what I want to see? Just look, Republicans, if you're going to win right
00:52:47.000now, you can do two things. You can play the game of lies or you can offer fifteen thousand dollars
00:52:52.000to everybody who votes for you like Joe Biden did, basically. But I'm imagining you go up on stage
00:53:18.000You can say, when did you stop stealing from the local grocery store?
00:53:22.000So in a way you're making an argument, you're making an anti-Trump argument I think because your argument basically is he could open, maybe he sort of did this and it needed to happen the first time, but he might open up the gates of hell here.
00:53:32.000Like, if it gets to the two of them, and it's like, DeSantis is winning on policy, and, you know, he feels fresher, and it's right, and there's a track record, but Trump is willing to do the craziest shit known to man, which I think we would all agree he would do.
00:53:46.000And again, I voted for the guy, and I think... Right.
00:53:49.000So that says something about humanity, I suppose.
00:53:57.000He says facts don't care about your feelings.
00:53:59.000Quite assuredly he does, and he gets a hundred plus thousand retweets on Twitter, he pins it, and all of the conservatives smugly pat each other on the back in their victory of how smart they are in reality.
00:54:10.000But they're not wrong, they're not wrong.
00:54:11.000But I say this rather derisively because feelings don't care about your facts.
00:54:16.000And you can come out and say, well, if Joe Biden were to shut down the Keystone pipeline, it would cause speculative drive, meaning the investors and the traders are going to realize supply won't meet demand in the coming years because the pipeline was shut down and thus prices will increase.
00:54:31.000So they invest now causing an early price increase.
00:55:12.000I think we just need more adults in the room I think too many of us have just let go of that Part of ourselves in a way did not want to confront all of the scary mean things out there and maybe we just need a little more of Jordan Peterson like like stand up straight with your shoulders back and and just not be part of the slow descent to hell I think that's true.
00:55:31.000I'm wondering if anyone could get into the presidency and not get assassinated acting like Kennedy.
00:55:35.000Be like, the CIA, I'm uncovering it all.
00:55:44.000I don't want any of these guys to get assassinated, even the ones I don't like.
00:55:47.000But, you know, I think that there is room for a sane, competent person.
00:55:52.000I think if we had a sane, competent person as president, and we do not have a sane, competent person right now in Joe Biden, If we had someone who people believed he believed what he was saying and was roughly honest and things kind of worked, I think people would let go of so much of the other shit happening in society right now.
00:56:09.000But right now we know it's what you just said.
00:56:11.000We know everything is a lie everywhere, constantly.
00:56:15.000Everything that they say is misinformation usually is truth.
00:56:28.000Katie Hobbs has won Arizona Reports' decision desk, that they have flipped the Republican state to Democrat as of 8.50 p.m., with 98% reporting Carrie Lake was still down and unable to win.
00:56:42.000There were not enough remaining votes, so they're calling it.
00:56:45.000What do you think Carrie's going to do?
00:56:46.000I don't think she's going to take this lying down.
00:57:04.000But in today's day and age, with the way this country is going, Carrie Lake absolutely should not.
00:57:10.000And in order to solve the problem of 2020, And now, of 2022, with ballot harvesting and universal mail-in voting, the long lines, the adjudication, the broken machines, you need standing.
00:57:23.000And that standing just happened right now.
00:57:25.000Carrie Lake, negatively impacted by fire lawsuits now.
00:58:04.000Republicans don't have that same ballot harvesting game.
00:58:07.000The bigger issue With Democrats doing that, and then Republicans going in on election day, and this is partly Trump's fault, the machines were busted.
00:58:38.000Otherwise, this problem will never be solved.
00:58:41.000If there's one thing Carrie Lake can do, even if she doesn't become governor, she can stop the broken process so the next time around this doesn't happen.
00:58:49.000I need to confirm, Katie Hobbs is in charge of the election in Arizona?
00:59:14.000And Stacey Abrams then spent four years saying that she was basically the governor.
00:59:19.000What's also interesting about Hobbes is that Hobbes refused to debate Carrie Lake.
00:59:24.000So when you talk about how Fetterman, you know, obviously has some level of brain damage or whatever the stroke did to him, on top of all the bad ideas and everything else.
00:59:31.000So Democrats can put up candidates that barely can speak, Fetterman and Biden, and they can also now put up candidates who literally will not debate the other person.
00:59:43.000It's a function problem, but it's a problem.
00:59:46.000It's like, Remember that, what was it, about a month ago when she said, well, you know, we're busy with fundraisers, so I don't think I'm gonna have time for a debate.
00:59:55.000Well, then that seems disqualifying to me.
00:59:58.000I think, you know, I was talking about this the day after the election.
01:00:02.000I wake up and I see all these Republicans like, how could this have happened?
01:02:57.000You hear him say that a lot and this matters.
01:02:59.000But what we, what we just witnessed, I don't see Republicans winning ever again.
01:03:04.000I talked about this specifically in my earlier video today.
01:03:08.000Now you could criticize Donald Trump since his main issue for this midterm was talking about the 2020 election.
01:03:14.000You could criticize him from doing fundraisers for masters and receiving $99 out of $100 and giving only $1 to masters.
01:03:19.000That was You know, that was outpaid for by his opponent, $80 million to $12 million.
01:03:29.000You could criticize him on that, but when you have the ballot harvesting, when you have the mail-in ballots, additionally, when you have big tech censorship, when you have yellow bellies and neoconservatives in the Republican Party, I don't see them winning ever again in the near future.
01:03:43.000They have no institutional power to change any of this.
01:03:46.000They won't change anything, and even if they did, I wouldn't even have any, you know, optimism that they would.
01:03:52.000So I think you're making my earlier argument, which is sort of you strengthen the red states and you bring in all the good people from the blue states.
01:04:00.000You, yeah, you let the blue states crumble under the weight of their own bullshit and you strengthen, you bring all of the productive people, you bring all of the productive companies, you hire based on skilled instead of equity, you do all of it right.
01:04:15.000And then you save certain places and then.
01:04:18.000You just kind of go, man, it was beautiful in the 80s and the 90s, but we couldn't hold on to it.
01:04:23.000That's a good argument, because even like 20 brilliant people can completely transform a state.
01:04:58.000And we've actually, we've moved employees to come out to the area.
01:05:02.000We're expanding the operation, we're starting a couple new businesses, and we're going to continue to expand our West Virginia operation.
01:05:07.000The cities here are very small, but it's surrounded by, it's really interesting.
01:05:13.000We're only a couple, we're three hours from Pittsburgh, we're three hours from Philadelphia, we're an hour from D.C., an hour from Baltimore, we're two and a half hours from Richmond, We have all these major urban centers all around us, but we're in a red state with a lot more freedom.
01:08:43.000So you have coconuts, you have the storms that you're happy about.
01:08:47.000You know, I'll tell you, the weather is not really that relevant compared to the good laws, especially, you know, I talked to everybody here, I said, if Rhonda Sanders really gets this law passed on social media protections, we relocate in an instant.
01:09:04.000They are doing everything we're asking.
01:09:07.000So for all of these people out there, as I tweeted this morning, if you think that Ron DeSantis is part of the machine, and he's just one of the generic ones, and he's just a Romney or something like that, it's like, man, he's done everything you've asked.
01:09:40.000Because people have been so beaten into submission that when the good thing happens, they think it must be transitory, something like that.
01:10:25.000And then Florida was one of the few states that survived the whole weight of all the lockdowns, of all the restrictions.
01:10:32.000They were the number one state that was attacked for allegedly killing people by allowing them to be free, and they stood up against it, and he stood up against Fauci more than anyone else.
01:10:40.000And AOC went to vacation in Florida with no mask.
01:10:49.000Do you think it's maybe that a certain set of people just use the phrase establishment to mean just sort of anything that's like somewhat normal?
01:11:10.000But my attitude is this, look, just because someone, when they went after, I think it was Rubio, they said, you're getting money from the NRA, they own you.
01:11:18.000And he said- Oh, right, right, right, that famous moment.
01:11:20.000Yeah, he's like, I don't get money from them because I do things for them, I get money from them because I'm doing things already and they want those things to happen.
01:11:38.000Look, it's very obvious that I was in, I did a show with DeSantis in Orlando.
01:11:42.000It was the last show on my book tour in Orlando.
01:11:44.000So we went to Disney country and everybody there.
01:11:49.000Everybody there was psyched to see the guy excited.
01:11:52.000We had people in the meet and greet coming up to me after that were Disney employees that could potentially lose their job if he cuts, you know, if he gets rid of these tax benefits and everything.
01:12:00.000And they were coming up to us telling him how appreciative they were.
01:13:45.000Mail-in voting, favoring ignorant people who don't care.
01:13:48.000They were projecting that this would go Republican to Neil Perrott.
01:13:51.000And then at the last minute, they started counting new ballots, new ballots, new ballots.
01:13:54.000Then slowly the Democrat flipped, and as soon as he did, they called it.
01:13:59.000Nothing is going to matter moving forward, because it's exemplified right there.
01:14:04.000So, you know, we can talk about dissent is doing everything right, but when it comes to the national level, if we have the Democrats in control of a machine, it doesn't matter if you know what's going on and vote.
01:14:15.000They're going to find people who don't know and don't care, and they will outnumber you.
01:14:19.000Again, that's why I'm not selling you on the federal government here, and I'm not selling you on the Grander Project.
01:14:24.000I'm saying certain states can do it right.
01:14:26.000And if you care about any of these things, then you have to think about your life very seriously.
01:14:30.000And every time I tweet that out, you know, you can move, you know, well, it's not easy to move.
01:14:35.000Whether you're single, whether you have a family, your grandparents, you got kids, whatever, you have no money, you're rich.
01:14:41.000Everyone has their own considerations, but it is your life and you have some capacity to do something in your life and you got to decide what you want to do.
01:14:48.000Could they set up state elections so that you could vote online and use like a blockchain to confirm the votes?
01:14:53.000Could they do that without the federal government saying, no, you're not allowed?
01:15:08.000Yeah, you should be able to confirm it.
01:15:09.000You gotta be able to confirm your own vote.
01:15:11.000But I feel like voting on paper, giving it to Dominion or another corporation to tally the votes in secret is like sticking your finger in a light socket over and it's like, oh, I still don't know if they cheated or they didn't cheat.
01:16:40.000So almost all this, I think basically everything we've invested in at TimCast from all of you becoming members at TimCast.com has been cultural.
01:16:49.000It doesn't mean we're gonna be Disney, but we're certainly gonna try and have cultural influence making music, we're working on a video game, we're working on a show, we're working on now movies.
01:16:58.000Because you need to instill your values in cultural things.
01:17:02.000There needs to be an industry where artists can thrive.
01:17:04.000There needs to be an opportunity for that guy who works for Disney to say, you know what?
01:17:24.000And a society will grow great when men plant trees whose shade they know they will never sit beneath.
01:17:31.000So maybe in 50 years, maybe in 100 years, I'll long be dead, and there'll be some weird Timcast company that's got libertarian freedom-loving liberal values or whatever, and it supplants or displaces the weird woke ESG stuff.
01:17:44.000I agree. We inspire young people to build it. They will come something like that. Like,
01:17:49.000you may as well try to do something on your own to defeat this thing rather than saying,
01:17:53.000Oh my God, if I only had that politician, there are going to be a couple transformational ones.
01:17:57.000Obviously, I feel that about the Santas, but let's just make it let's let's, uh,
01:18:02.000hire a bunch of young Tick Tock influencers to just talk about how, how uncool is to vote Democrat.
01:18:10.000They'll just say voting for Democrats is so lame, you're so lame, I can't believe you would do that.
01:18:15.000You see the thing the other day where Biden brought the TikTokers into the Oval Office, and then they staged this idiotic Q&A, and one of the questions is, should Elon Musk be looked at by the federal government?
01:18:26.000And then he fumbled, of course, through the answer, but it's like, that's what I mean about everything's fake, it's all BS, we can see it, we've looked behind the curtain, we've seen the wizard, we know he ain't the all-powerful Oz, but what do we do about it?
01:18:39.000Well, one thing we can do is, and I strongly encourage Rhonda Sanders to begin immediately, is to start building a dike system outside of Florida and then draining the water to expand the territory of Florida to accommodate more.
01:18:53.000And then, you know, I've- Breathing room, breathing room.
01:18:56.000Living in Miami, I mean, the water's only three feet deep, like 10 miles outside or like whatever.
01:19:01.000I think it's like 11 miles south of Miami.
01:19:04.000The water is like, you could stand there on the rocks.
01:19:18.000I don't think we need it yet, but we could start... I think his next thing, like, it is infrastructure projects.
01:19:22.000Let's build more housing so that the competition that you were talking about earlier about the house prices... You know, here's a question.
01:19:28.000If Ron DeSantis, and this is totally hypothetical, if he brought in, like, if he started actually bringing in earth mass and dumping it alongside the coast of Florida, expanding.
01:19:42.000Would the international waters go out with it, or how would that work?
01:19:51.000Yeah, it's like, well, you know, the water extends like 11 miles to like international waters, but, you know, we added a couple more miles of dirt.
01:21:00.000Elon Musk buying Twitter, and all of a sudden the game has changed.
01:21:04.000And a lot of this bodes very, very well for those who care about freedom.
01:21:10.000It seems like we're starting to make tremendous gains in the culture wars, but with the Daily Wire success, with Elon Musk buying Twitter, they can only hold on for so long with universal mail-in voting.
01:21:20.000Within this, there's Rumble, which we use Rumble infrastructure for timcast.com, like the whole website.
01:22:25.000I had two tiers of issues when you sold it, I think, is my problem.
01:22:28.000And the first one was a bit more personal.
01:22:30.000The other one's more, I guess, idealistic, is that you said, come to Locals, I'll make sure you never get banned, and then sold the company.
01:22:38.000I was like, well, now he can't make sure you never get banned because he sold out.
01:22:43.000I use the phrase sold out to Rumble, whatever, he sold the company.
01:22:47.000The other one is that I'm just concerned with corporate conglomeration and proprietary software, because if Chris gets killed, you know, Chris Pavlovsky, something happens to him, and then someone else just owns everything, all the code.
01:22:59.000So I think that we need to free the software code.
01:23:04.000But the one issue that we brought up that I thought was really important was they're doing the SPAC deal, which means they're going to go public.
01:23:39.000That's the extent of what I do with the company.
01:23:41.000But I am telling you, without question, there has never been a tech company built in any sense that we know anything of that free speech is baked into the ethos of this company.
01:23:54.000When I started Locals, our idea was, you know, we wanted to basically personalize a Patreon for people so that you'd have an app that would give you direct contact with your audience and you could build a business on your own.
01:24:03.000We sort of viewed it as like we're building you a house and what you do in your house is up to you.
01:24:48.000What do you think I should do with this thing?
01:24:50.000And he said, and I said, Peter, I know this number that I'm showing you is not a lot to you.
01:24:54.000He's got billions and billions of dollars.
01:24:55.000But I was like, but it is life changing for me and my brother-in-law who's running, who's the CEO, who's running the tech, changed my sister's life, changed my family's life right there.
01:25:04.000And Peter said, look, I'm looking at your numbers.
01:25:06.000You guys are doing some great things here.
01:25:08.000He said, all you need is distribution.
01:25:10.000If you can figure out what your distribution model is, you have something amazing.
01:25:14.000And then I think it was literally like two weeks later.
01:25:44.000I'm not going to tell you that they can't.
01:25:45.000Chris, I don't know what the numbers are, so don't quote me on this exactly.
01:25:48.000Chris controls something like 74% of the company right now.
01:25:52.000I think that's, it's something like that.
01:25:55.000And he is an absolute all-star on all of these issues.
01:25:58.000So if this type of deal I don't mean this to you specifically.
01:26:02.000If this type of deal is not good enough for someone, like here, you know me, right?
01:26:06.000Like I started in this thing fighting tech censorship, all of the nonsense that New York Times was calling us all right and all these things.
01:26:12.000I started this company for the right reasons.
01:26:14.000We found another company that's in it for the right reasons.
01:26:17.000At some point, it's like you got to do deals to grow and be bigger and mature these things and scale them and all of those things.
01:26:26.000Are we a perfectly decentralized system?
01:29:05.000I think these are potential pitfalls to going public, getting investor money.
01:29:09.000Eventually, the bill comes due, and Rumble's going to have an obligation to public shareholders as to how they generate revenue and what that means.
01:29:19.000I think another piece of that that I think makes it a little bit easier for somebody like you to understand, or not to understand, but to appreciate, would be that the advertising game really is changing right now.
01:29:32.000The cancel thing, it's not that it's gone.
01:29:34.000But I think the days of, oh, Ben Shapiro said something about abortion, now the soothe app is not going to, like, it just doesn't work anymore.
01:29:42.000We are getting to the other side of it.
01:29:44.000The Chappelle thing that we started with is evidence that we're getting to the other side of it.
01:29:48.000There also are all sorts of companies now, because of what the woke have done, that companies are now being built across all sorts of industries.
01:29:57.000to make hats and do all the culture stuff you're talking about, whatever it might be, whatever product.
01:30:01.000So there's a whole new industry being built that will support this sort of thing that did not exist five years ago.
01:30:21.000Because you said locals had the ethos and the belief system of freedom of speech.
01:30:25.000What made you believe that Rumble was going to continue that?
01:30:28.000Because you made a statement saying, believe me, these guys are standing behind it.
01:30:31.000What made you believe that these guys were going to follow those same ethos as you had with Locals?
01:30:38.000So first off, I assume like all of you guys, but especially you Tim, when you've done what we do for long enough, The idea that I would cross my audience is so... Not say something they don't like, but do something so fundamentally against what I have put out there and what I believe in.
01:30:55.000I physically would not be able to do it.
01:31:15.000Every time we would get into more nitty-gritty stuff, he would punt some of that to the tech guys because what he wanted to talk about was saving the internet.
01:31:22.000This is a guy who's from Toronto, Canada, dealing with all, I mean, if you think about everything
01:31:26.000that Canadians have dealt with in the last two years, COVID and how could we help the truckers?
01:31:31.000Like we were doing all sorts of stuff.
01:31:34.000You know, like we, every single person, the board now, I know the board, like these people are in it
01:33:45.000I think he should indirectly have a production house that produces movies and shows, comics, cartoons, and video games, because this is what inspires young people and drives culture.
01:33:57.000The stories that kids hear growing up.
01:34:00.000Influence is how they decide to live their lives and what they value.
01:34:03.000So I do know that he was all about the un-college thing.
01:34:06.000I remember when he did that with... To be in the Teal Fellowship, you have to not have gone to college.
01:34:20.000I know I can tell you that at the height of the IDW thing, when that thing was really blowing up with Jordan and Ben and me and Rogan and whoever, there were some discussions around it.
01:34:29.000It was getting very complex because of egos and different business models and all of those things.
01:35:31.000Tick-tock is a big component, so tech is there.
01:35:34.000Tick-tock is controlling what these kids can see and what they're being told is cool and what's not cool.
01:35:39.000But it's also music being played on the streaming platforms, music videos.
01:35:44.000Kids grow up and they want to be what is viewed as popular among their peer group.
01:35:49.000What's being funded is these tech billionaires who have money, for obvious reasons, view the world through a technology lens and not through a cultural lens.
01:35:57.000And Democrats have always tried to own celebrities and the arts.
01:36:01.000And that's what inspires young people.
01:36:19.000The biggest podcaster in the world is Joe Rogan.
01:36:21.000He's pretty red-pilled, like, said he would vote for DeSantis.
01:36:24.000So the things are happening in front of our eyes.
01:36:26.000The question is, what do you do with all of those pieces?
01:36:29.000A few thoughts, simple and overt, is one thing that we're trying to do, and I'm not trying to suggest anyone should do anything we're doing, you know, I view the world a certain way, I'll take action the way I do.
01:36:52.000I'll take the risks on my own, you know, with what we have.
01:36:56.000And then if we're wrong, I like the decentralization of it.
01:37:00.000Funding more cultural commentators who push back on the machine.
01:37:04.000The conservatives are so stodgy, you know what I mean?
01:37:06.000You look at TPUSA, and we're friends with a lot of those people, but they're suit-wearing, stodgy, and that doesn't resonate with your average city kid or anything like that.
01:37:15.000They're not going to grow up and be like, man, I wish I could wear a suit too and be stodgy.
01:37:19.000They want to fit in with their peer group who dress down and don't do those things.
01:37:23.000My idea would be, certainly if I had a billion dollars, I'd set aside a couple million to just fund TikTok, YouTube channels, comedians who are challenging the woke cancel culture, who are funny, fine talent, create a production house, create a talent agency, make shows, make movies, make content that floods the market.
01:37:45.000And then you look at an example of a movie, The Craft.
01:37:48.000Which the second version was super woke and insane.
01:38:09.000But if they wanted to win the culture war, it could be like, I can set aside money for a lower budget, high quality cultural content to challenge the system without as much risk as say the Daily Wire could.
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01:39:48.000He was also asking me a lot about sex, which I did not really want to talk about.
01:39:51.000And it felt kind of gross or whatever.
01:39:53.000But then about a half hour and we broke through and then The one thing that they said to me before the show is they can't that the show itself cannot be mostly politics That was the way that was the way HBO signed off on it that he has to be mostly doing something else But I knew every but I did want to talk him talk to him about politics Obviously and he wanted to talk to me about certain things.
01:40:14.000So we had to kind of get there But wait, what was your question?
01:40:21.000I think it was as good as it could have possibly been for the first foray into that, and I think I'm going to be on Real Time in January, and we'll hopefully keep doing that thing.
01:40:32.000I've been asked by people that are in the circle with him or have known him if I would be interested in having him here or be interested in going on Real Time.
01:40:55.000When Prager went on and said there are tampons in the men's washroom and they all laughed,
01:40:59.000it's like you want me to go into a room full of people who are less informed about the
01:41:03.000world than I am and then I have to desperately try to explain that to them in a matter of
01:41:06.000minutes is just a terrible investment.
01:41:08.000Well, that's why the moment when I said to Bill, that we talked about earlier, when I said to Bill, uh, you do know that Hillary Clinton called Trump an illegitimate president, and he immediately, no, no she didn't, no she didn't.
01:41:18.000But it was like, Bill, actually, there are tweets.
01:42:00.000He was an anti-SJW personality, did some interviews with some liberals, and then all of a sudden became a leftist.
01:42:05.000And he came on this show, and it was a moment where I mentioned that Joe Biden said, quid pro quo, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting the billion dollars.
01:42:50.000I think he realized that maybe there really were some blind spots and some controls around real time that maybe he was starting, because the guests suck now.
01:42:59.000If you look at that guest list every Friday, it's a collection of nobodies where it used to be all stars on there every week.
01:43:07.000That might've been the peak of the show in a weird sense.
01:44:17.000We got Daddy Bad Bad says, Tim Kast routinely compares the fall of Rome to what is happening in USA, but I think the disintegration of the Soviet Union would make a better predictor.
01:44:27.000I actually, the last thing I said about it was that it may actually be the rise of the Roman Empire.
01:44:32.000Not the fall, the crossing of the Rubicon and the creation of the empire, which resulted in 200 years of prosperity.
01:45:23.000Stephen Steele says Oz didn't win because he wasn't MAGA enough.
01:45:27.000Perhaps, uh, there was, uh, Kathy Barnett.
01:45:30.000Trump could have endorsed her and she was, she's wicked smart, but he went with Oz because I guess he thought TV celebrity could play, but would play better.
01:45:36.000I mean, the fact that Oz lost to Federman is, it's just, it doesn't matter.
01:46:27.000I think there's arguments for and against it.
01:46:31.000One argument against it is that Ranked Choice results in the status quo always winning.
01:46:36.000Because what people want to believe, if we do ranked choice voting, everyone's gonna put Bernie Sanders for number one, and then Hillary Clinton, and Bernie wins!
01:46:46.000And what really happens is, 10% of people put Bernie, 10% of people put Nader, 10% of people put Trump, 10% of people put John Smith, and then all of those fall back on my plan B, which is, again, just gonna be the garbage establishment candidate.
01:47:02.000The pro argument is that Many Libertarians would say, I'm voting Libertarian, but I guess I'll take the Republican if I have no choice, and then you'd see Walker win in Georgia.
01:47:16.000What happens in ranked choice if there's two candidates, candidate 1 and candidate 2?
01:47:20.00050% of the people say I vote for candidate 1 with 2 as my second choice.
01:47:23.00050% say I vote for candidate 2 with 1 as my choice.
01:47:29.000The same thing that happens with any tie.
01:47:30.000It usually goes to a runoff, a special election, or... I mean, I don't think we've actually ever seen a direct tie before because it's so statistically anomalous.
01:47:39.000It would probably be literally impossible.
01:47:41.000Yeah, which is why these 49.7 and 49.3 are so weird.
01:47:44.000It would have to be an even number of voters, and it would have to fall perfectly split 50-50, and then they'd probably have to do a special, I don't know, what do we do?
01:47:53.000That's where this all ends in 2024, isn't it?
01:48:20.000I mean, look, there were Bernie voters who voted for Trump.
01:48:22.000I would not be surprised if there were Trump voters who preferred Fetterman.
01:48:25.000These are people who are not staunch conservatives, not diehard Trump supporters.
01:48:29.000They were populist leftists who said, I guess Trump's better than Hillary when given an option to vote for Fetterman, even if he's struggling to speak.
01:49:07.000Because if there was this talk of this great red wave, and Trump supporters thought they had a path forward, and then this is what happened because of universal mail-in voting, I fear that, as John F. Kennedy said, those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.
01:49:23.000It doesn't mean it's always the majority or people who are right who feel that way, but if people on the right feel disenfranchised, because no matter how hard they push, they're not winning, people are going to lose their minds.
01:49:31.000And I hope that's not the case, because if the Republicans, assuming they do take the House, they're going to get everything they could have wanted out of this.
01:49:48.000And then you can blame the Democrats for everything come 2024.
01:49:51.000And if you are able to take this time to file the lawsuits to go after the universal mail-in voting and challenge all the stuff, you have a chance for 2024 to actually win.
01:49:59.000The Democrats are already to blame for a lot of things.
01:50:02.000Lockdowns, inflation, Ukraine, almost starting a world war with Russia.
01:50:08.000They have enough to be blamed for already.
01:50:10.000I don't think adding more to that is going to help.
01:51:34.000List policies claimed or voted for next to candidate names 3.
01:51:38.000Video recording of every vote required 4.
01:51:41.000Days to vote with designated PTO by name per day It's interesting, if we record people voting, but not who they voted for, to confirm they did vote would be interesting.
01:51:52.000Or at the very least, some record showing that they did.
01:51:56.000I agree with removing Democrat and Republican from ballots.
01:52:01.000Yeah, I think you can argue it either way.
01:52:03.000I tell you some extent it's like you got so many people go in there Even people that are fairly well-informed you still go in not knowing a couple things don't vote for someone you don't know I would say generally speaking you should vote for a Republican you don't know over a Democrat at least as it stands right now But here's what would happen in my opinion.
01:52:21.000It makes it very difficult for ballot harvesters They're gonna say vote Democrat which ones that right and they're gonna be like just all the way down the line.
01:52:27.000Yeah, I So, but what they'll do is they'll say, anyone with a D, check the box.
01:52:58.000You're going in and hitting that Ron DeSantis.
01:53:00.000You know you want Kerry Lake, you vote Kerry Lake.
01:53:03.000Ignorant voters will struggle, well-informed voters will succeed, and you're voting for the person, not some ideology.
01:53:09.000So I think remove DNR from ballots right away.
01:53:12.000Yeah, I still think there's probably some problem down ballot where even well-informed people just don't know a slew of things.
01:53:19.000But if you're going in and being like, I know DeSantis, I don't know what that guy is, I'm gonna vote for him anyway, you deserve the leadership you get.
01:53:27.000You should be like, I know DeSantis, I know Rubio, I don't know these other guys, I'm not gonna vote for them.
01:53:32.000But let's put it this way, if you look at what happened in Florida, I mean, he now has a super majority, it's in part because a whole bunch of people were like, I like DeSantis and I'm voting Republican all the way down.
01:53:41.000And it also caused Rubio to win by 15 points or something.
01:54:50.000And then we can just change the country, the entire name just becomes Florida.
01:54:53.000Oh, so you are going down those radical paths, huh?
01:54:55.000I would be for, how about some population trades, you know what I mean?
01:54:58.000Just like an NBA trade before the deadline, like let's just take some sane families out of New York, some sane You know, decent people out of New York, and let's trade them for whatever's going on in Orlando with the purple-haired weirdos.
01:55:24.000The vote's extended to 12-4, and it doesn't look good.
01:55:27.000If they strike, it will be bad for all.
01:55:29.000Not just the railroad strikes, but we're hearing that travel strikes may happen too, which can be very, very bad for Christmas and New Year's.
01:55:42.000Well, there was a conversation after a major pilots union meeting and pilots coming out saying there's a big probability that there might be boycotts this coming season.
01:57:30.000They're not, they're not the Nazis either.
01:57:32.000I think he was also, I think he was a little off his game in 2020 because COVID was so freaking crazy that, and he had just recovered from COVID in one of the debates.
01:58:01.000I gotta tell you, we get just the right amount of winter.
01:58:04.000You rent a little cabin a couple hours north in maybe the mountains somewhere in Pennsylvania, and you get a cabin with big glass windows right in front, and you sit back with the fire going and a hot cocoa and slippers on, and you're just watching the snow come down at night.
01:59:27.000You can literally fire up the internet machine and figure out the candidates you want while you are in line.
01:59:32.000If you're not willing to do that, you probably shouldn't be voting.
01:59:34.000Yeah, I don't feel particularly strong about it either way.
01:59:37.000I think your argument before was sound, and I think there's reasons to, when it's working, that you're just getting some extra votes for the right people.
01:59:44.000Democrats would be panicking if DNR were moving forward.
01:59:47.000Republicans, like, people are wondering, like, how is it that, you know, some people voted for this Republican, but not that Republican in Arizona?
01:59:55.000And it's like, because Republican voters vote based on their candidate by doing research, and so they might sometimes actually prefer to switch parties.
02:00:13.000We will see, but yeah, yeah, probably.
02:00:16.000Which was surprising, and I know the left is, uh, because they operate based on a lack of context.
02:00:21.000I did a couple segments saying the trend suggests Carrie Lake will win, and that's actually what the forecasters were predicting and what the trends were predicting.
02:00:29.000The trends were showing that the late ballots that were coming in were actually beginning to favor Carrie Lake increasingly.
02:00:34.000And AZ Central reported that Carrie Lake had more than enough votes left to actually win in the end, like we saw in 2020 with the late ballots coming in.