In my absence, Jack Posobiec and Coghlan return to the Culture War podcast to talk about the latest news breaking in Russia, Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg's cage match, Joe Rogan's $100k challenge to the Justice Warrior, and much, much more.
00:00:28.000If you noticed, for those of you that listened to the Culture War podcast on Friday, there was a point where I was like coughing something up, like I just lost my voice.
00:00:35.000And then I was kind of like sick Sunday.
00:00:37.000And then I'm like, yeah, I'll be fine tomorrow.
00:00:38.000And then I woke up on Monday being like, I can't talk.
00:00:41.000And then Tuesday, I was like, I still can't talk.
00:00:42.000And then by Wednesday, I was like, okay, we gotta get somebody to host the show because, like, one or two days out, and I thought I'd be fine, but... So, a special thank you to Jack Posobiec and Seamus Coghlan for hosting the show.
00:01:03.000But the reports that are coming out is that there is a potential military coup or civil war starting in Russia.
00:01:09.000I'm going to stand back and be like, I am skeptical of this, but apparently the private military contract of the Wagner Group apparently is saying that they're going to stop the corruption in Russia, and then Russia is deploying troops to try and gain control of things.
00:01:23.000I don't know how much of this is true.
00:01:23.000We're going to talk about all of that.
00:01:27.000I think we've got to talk about this cage match with Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg, because, you know, I've been out all week.
00:01:32.000I do want to address the debate that Joe Rogan offered up and the money.
00:01:38.000I know this is a week-old story, but I haven't been here all week, so explaining my position on why I offered the $100,000 to add to this, and to refute a lot of the points that were made by some of these people that are clearly lying, and just absolutely address, look, They say don't have debates.
00:01:52.000We had a show with Emma Vigeland and Sean, actual Justice Warrior, who's here with us today, right now actually on the show, and I thought it was fantastic.
00:02:00.000I thought we absolutely do want to have more of these debates, conversations, whatever you want to call them.
00:02:04.000So the fact that there are people saying not to do it is a problem, and we'll address that, but we'll talk about a bunch of stuff.
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00:06:00.000Alright, so here's the first story from the Daily Mail.
00:06:03.000Coup Fears As Wagner Army Marches On Moscow To Target Evil Military Chiefs, Kremlin Accuses Leader Of Mercenaries Of Inciting Civil War, Puts Its Troops On Capitol Streets And Vows To Smash Armed Mutiny As State TV Runs Emergency Bulletin.
00:06:21.000This is crazy. They say there are fears of a coup in Russia as military vehicles were seen in the
00:06:26.000streets after the chief of the Vag... Is it Wagner group or is it Wagner group?
00:07:37.000This is the danger of hiring mercenaries to fight a war.
00:07:39.000I don't know if this is exactly what happened with the Romans, but they were bringing in mercenaries from all over the world to come and fight for the Romans, because the Roman citizens got to a point where they didn't want to fight anymore.
00:07:50.000And then that's the beginning of the end, because those people do not have any allegiance to your country.
00:08:19.000Yeah, I mean there is obviously value to having a more robust fighting force, including mercenaries, but if you're relying on mercenaries, you're in a very precarious position.
00:08:29.000This is what I never understood, you see a movie where it's like someone hires a hitman, I'm like, and they always say like, what are they paying you?
00:08:48.000There's a great book called The Modern Mercenary, and there's a phenomenon that they call neo-medievalism, because one of the problems during the Middle Ages was that people had an allegiance to their lord, their god, and their king.
00:08:59.000So whenever there was like a, you know, a conflict broke out that was between any of them, You had to pick your own, um, you had to pick which master you would serve.
00:09:08.000So, you know, mercenaries have different interests, different loyalties, and all that.
00:09:12.000So, obviously, we might be seeing, if this is true, that neo-medieval order, like, establishing itself once again in our modern society.
00:09:26.000He says, quote, there are 25,000 of us and we are going to figure out why chaos is happening in the country, promising to tackle any checkpoints.
00:09:33.000He said, I asked that no one offer resistance.
00:09:36.000Is 25,000 really enough to do anything?
00:09:40.000I mean, if they're centralized just in Moscow, yes.
00:09:45.000Like, they could take some building or something, but I just want to point out that we're no longer in the era of being able to take over a country by occupying a building.
00:09:53.000And it's kind of crazy to think that was the case at some point.
00:09:56.000Like, a bunch of dudes would run into a building and they were like, we're in charge now, and everyone would be like, well crap, they're in charge now.
00:10:01.000Yeah, worked in, uh, Pinochet did that, I think, with, uh, what was Allende, Salvador Allende, in Chile.
00:10:08.000There was, and that was in the 70s, I think?
00:10:10.000They just went in, but once you get the leader, that's what he wants, is he wants the defense minister.
00:10:14.000He doesn't care about the building, but if you can get the people, if you get Putin, then you get Putin at gunpoint to tell the people, I concede, I step down, you know, you get the leader to do what you want them to do, I think.
00:12:54.000This is not definitive though, this is like you've got warring propaganda.
00:12:58.000So the New York Times did a report on how Ukraine has sort of poison pills all throughout the country to blow up their own infrastructure and the Washington Post said that they did a test strike on the dam.
00:14:19.000If this truly is that the Russians accidentally shelled 2,000 of their own mercenaries, and now the mercenaries turn on them, that will be remembered for...
00:14:27.000Tens of thousands of years, if we have history for that, if we can maintain it, it'll be remembered as one of the largest military blunders ever in the history of humankind.
00:16:27.000James that is recently unoccupied and it has a special temple on it that's brand- nearly brand new, lightly used, special blue and white temple.
00:16:40.000It's got a real Eastern European flair to it.
00:16:43.000Yeah, this is the pro- I mean, yeah, I mean, I think you might- Obviously, I think you might be right here.
00:16:48.000I'm furiously searching for the map, the wartime map, because actually Russia's gained an enormous amount of territory of Ukraine's, and this Ukrainian offensive that they've been talking about has done nothing.
00:16:58.000It's actually been an absolute total failure.
00:17:01.000You don't hear about it because we're propagandized as much as anyone else in the world, but the Ukrainian Spring Offensive has been very, very bad.
00:17:10.000And you can see where all the money's gone.
00:17:12.000It's now in flaming tanks and personnel carriers all throughout the Eastern Front of Ukraine.
00:17:18.000And the most effective group, if you go through on the YouTube and some of the YouTube channels, and you're able to do the Google Translate thing, and you're able to listen to these Ukrainian generals talk, the people they're actually scared about is the Wagner group.
00:17:44.000Because Russia's putting a lot of young guys on the front lines.
00:17:47.000And so if you go through and you watch some of these YouTube, the Kiev post is the one that I watch, right?
00:17:52.000Because they have these insights and these interviews with these Ukrainian generals and they talk about how worried they are about the Wagner Group and how skilled of an operation that is.
00:18:02.000And so this is clearly something that if you were to take them off the board, off the chessboard, well, hot damn.
00:18:09.000I mean, this would be a big thing, obviously, for Ukraine.
00:18:11.000I always thought about mercenaries and what a hard life that is because the people that hire you to fight want you to die in the battle that they win.
00:18:20.000They want you to win the battle but die so they don't have to pay you.
00:18:23.000So it's like, they don't have- Russia doesn't care about these people.
00:18:27.000Like, the Russians, they want to win, and they would rather not pay them, to be honest.
00:18:31.000Obviously, they like loyalty over non-loyalty, but mercenaries know that.
00:18:35.000And if you kill their men, man, they are not gonna wait.
00:18:39.000We don't do very well with taking care of the people who fight our wars either, though.
00:18:43.000So it's not like that's... I mean, I see what you're saying, but in general, I don't really think that, in most cases, many of the people that come back from war are really taken care of in any way, shape, or form.
00:18:55.000Veterans make up 11% of all the homeless population in America.
00:19:03.000We do use mercenaries in part because the soldier death number is what always gets reported because the American people care about soldiers dying overseas.
00:19:11.000And when it's personnel, even though they're former soldiers that served our country that went into these mercenary groups, it's not as scary of a number.
00:19:19.000So there is some more concern in the United States for at least the death toll, especially overseas.
00:19:25.000And we started upping our use of private military after we started withdrawing troops at a certain point, right?
00:19:35.000So just to clarify, because people are pointing out scorched earth, two superchats saying that it's when a defending army destroys everything, another person responded, it's actually both.
00:19:46.000But most famously associated with offending armies destroying anything of use to the place they're occupying, but there are several circumstances in which people in their own countries destroyed everything as they were fleeing.
00:19:58.000But scorched earth The specific example is when you pull up Sherman's March to the Seas, like the most notable modern example.
00:20:06.000And that was when he was like, destroy the farms, destroy the railroads, anything they can use.
00:20:11.000The purpose was to destroy their will to fight.
00:20:16.000The Third Reich did this in Russia, like when they were on the edge of Moscow as far as the Third Reich got in Russia, and they were As close as any modern army's been to conquering Moscow, and man, they burned everything on their way back.
00:20:30.000But we gotta talk about a more important fight that may be on our hands, ladies and gentlemen, and it's not Ukraine and Russia, it is Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg.
00:20:39.000Vox.com reporting, why in the world are Elon and Zuck planning to punch each other?
00:20:44.000Their supposed cage match has petty online roots.
00:20:47.000I'm all for it since the boys are fighting.
00:20:51.000They are 51 and 39 years old, respectively.
00:20:54.000And we'd like to inform you that they're gearing up for a cage fight in an unconfirmed location, but possibly Las Vegas, on a to-be-decided date.
00:21:00.000Elon Musk signaled his interest in the match on Twitter a few days ago.
00:21:04.000Zuckerberg naturally confirmed that he was in through Instagram.
00:21:39.000I think people are saying Musk is going to win.
00:21:41.000And I think if you've seen the videos of Zuckerberg doing Brazilian jiu-jitsu. He looks like a robot when he's doing
00:21:49.000it. His face is completely blank. I think I think he ends up winning this one.
00:21:53.000So, I just want to say this. First, the first question is will
00:21:58.000this actually happen? And I lean towards it won't.
00:22:00.000I hope it does. Can you imagine the the insurance policy you'd have to have to run this fight?
00:22:05.000There's a 37 second video of Dana White.
00:22:09.000This is a good point why it won't happen.
00:22:11.000Because every investor in Facebook and every investor in Tesla will file an injunction immediately and be like, If one of you gets knocked out, we're going to lose billions of dollars.
00:22:25.000You know, that's a good point, because Dana White, the owner of the UFC, said that it would raise $100 million in pay-per-view and it would be the biggest, most popular fight of all time.
00:24:18.000Also, the other thing for Musk is like, I just don't know if like, can they find the time to do something like this?
00:24:27.000Is there really time to get something like this done when you're running five companies?
00:24:31.000I think so because they're both robots, you know, and they know that time is relative.
00:24:36.000So when you create a piece of art that goes on the internet that is seen a hundred million times, it creates, like when you think of time, you're creating a hundred billion minutes.
00:24:45.000As opposed to spending maybe 7,000 minutes to get it done, you've actually made more time.
00:24:50.000More importantly than if they can find the time to do this, is Elon going to make the time to train?
00:24:56.000Because Zuckerberg has a head start, and he's younger than him, and, you know, he is fighting right now, and he's training with the best.
00:25:02.000He's a billionaire, like, he can afford anybody.
00:25:18.000No, I think Andrew Tate, if he goes to Romania and trains with Andrew Tate, that would be hardcore.
00:25:22.000Because even that would be awesome to watch.
00:25:23.000We live in such a weird world where it's like, you just kind of accept that this dude who might or might not be a human trafficker is going to train the guy who runs five of the biggest companies in the world to fight another dude who's worth more than some small country's GDP.
00:25:38.000Like, back in the day, this would have happened on Celebrity Deathmatch.
00:25:43.000You just accept that like is this dude who's maybe guilty of unspeakable crimes Really possibly going to train this dude who's now got people mad at him because he won't let them say sis on Twitter It's it's a weird world we live in Do you think it's a good idea for them to fight?
00:26:05.000I mean, yeah, because I think I'm all for the hilarity of it all.
00:26:09.000But like, I mean, if I was an investor in any of these companies,
00:26:12.000I don't know if I want the guy, especially Musk, who's like the brainchild of those companies.
00:26:17.000Facebook is kind of its own thing now, right?
00:26:19.000I think Facebook does fine if Zuckerberg isn't around anymore.
00:26:24.000Musk is very much a forward-facing persona that is the face of those companies.
00:26:29.000You can't have that dude coming out here looking like Reagan in the second administration and looking like he doesn't know what he's talking about, right?
00:26:42.000One, do you—well, first of all, Elon Musk smoked with Joe Rogan, and Tesla stock plunged immediately, so this would have an impact if he got knocked out.
00:26:52.000And number two, do you guys—are you guys a little bit worried that Bezos is getting into shape, Zuckerberg's doing MMA, and that they know something we don't know?
00:27:01.000No, they know something most people don't know, and it's you gotta eat right, take care of yourself.
00:27:56.000When it comes to all of these guys, We see them, they're very visible, but the reality is the trend in getting healthier is just across the board.
00:28:19.000It's good to have your heroes and the people that you look up to in society be masculine men.
00:28:23.000If you're a man, it's good to have testosterone flowing through your veins.
00:28:27.000Mr. Beast tweeted recently that he's getting in shape, and he called himself obese, and that he's been training every single day, and eating right, and stopping drinking, and I think this is a wonderful example to set for young men, actually.
00:28:40.000You shouldn't want to be a slob filled with microplastics and unable to defend yourself or support your family.
00:28:47.000In my case, physically support my family because I need to pick my little kids up and down, you know, or walk up the stairs, right?
00:28:53.000To literally be a father, you have to be a masculine man.
00:28:59.000If not a cage match for the issue of The stock and potential lawsuits and injunctions, they need to do some kind of like manly sporting competition.
00:29:37.000It's like arm wrestling, it's the giant q-tip thing where they, you know, bop each other with them, and maybe a sock-em-bop-er on a bridge where it's like, you got the big airbags.
00:29:47.000So I do want to say this, as somebody who was raised in Iowa, that don't count out Zuck because he's shorter or smaller.
00:29:53.000We've been having this, like, size comparison.
00:30:12.000They will kick your I don't know if I'm supposed to tell this story, so I'll just keep it very vague, but someone we know who was a fighter said that he was at a bar once, and some guy was mouthing off, and he was like, just leave me alone, dude.
00:30:31.000And then his buddy was like, dude, dude, dude, stop, and pointed to his ears.
00:30:37.000Yeah, and it's just like, I'm pretty sure, like, you see that and you're like, it's not that they're a good fighter, it's that they are a fighter and you are not.
00:31:12.000Then the undercard can be all of the people that work for their companies, like their vice presidents fight and I love it, I love it.
00:31:19.000You know what would be even better though?
00:31:21.000If they're in the middle of their fight, all of a sudden there's like a sound or a horn trumpet and then they look up in the rafters and there's Jack Dorsey and then he like ropes down.
00:31:36.000And then you start hearing this glitchy house music, and Elon Musk calls in a Tesla bot and comes and takes his place, taps in, and he's like an AI, AI versus Zuck, and then Zuck rips his human exoskeleton off his face, and he's like, lizard people!
00:32:56.000Get him a nice pin, white stripe, black and white stripe shirt.
00:33:00.000I have so much love for Rogan, not only just because of what he's doing with the show, but the fact, the grand macro scheme of what he's, how he's been able to bring people together.
00:33:08.000I think I'd rather have Trump do announcing with Rogan.
00:33:47.000Maybe they should just have WWE do it because you could actually write storylines for these people and it would be really really funny to watch the the writers come up with something absolutely ridiculous.
00:34:19.000Jack Dorsey's wearing Twitter 1.0 and Elon's wearing a Twitter 2.0 shirt.
00:34:23.000Suddenly, like, the lights go out in the entire arena, and you hear, I don't know, some type of Latin music from the Amazon, and in comes an Amazon drone with an Amazon box, and in the box is Jeff Bezos.
00:35:08.000I want to see, like, them bust, like, Elon pick up Zuck and, like, smash him through the ground, and as he falls down, lands on, like, the next scene, which is they're fighting on a starship.
00:35:17.000The Babylon Bee had a meme today that said, like, Zuckerberg and Elon saw their differences by playing GoldenEye 64, only slapping each other in two-player mode.
00:35:26.000Yeah, but you gotta play on license-to-kill mode, where one hit kills if you're gonna do that.
00:36:53.000I mean, Ian and Benny were both like, it was bad.
00:36:56.000Dude, we should watch at least part of the four-minute video of the reporters, one after the other, picking up where the other one left off.
00:37:02.000Creamy, like, I'm not answering that question.
00:37:13.000But you were saying, Benny, that they're like, they're done with them, and they're getting pushed out because there's the Hunter Biden story, and then there was, more importantly, the Oceangate scandal, where apparently the government knew for a week that this sub had likely imploded, and they didn't tell anybody.
00:37:29.000This is our federal government's version of Order 66.
00:37:36.000Joe Biden's getting Order 66'd right now.
00:37:38.000If you see it, You'll never be able to unsee it.
00:37:42.000Follow some of the New York Times writers.
00:37:44.000Follow some of the Washington Post writers.
00:37:56.000You are now allowed to ask your question.
00:37:58.000Why does Chuck Todd, after three years, Chuck Todd finally finds this story interesting, and he leads NBC Nightly News with a seven-minute episode on this?
00:38:08.000CNN's reporter at the White House was the one who's the most savage in this video that we're going to watch, hopefully.
00:38:39.000If Hunter Biden wasn't the president's son, would he have invited someone who had just reached a plea agreement with federal prosecutors two days earlier?
00:39:26.000So, his lawyer responded to the text today.
00:39:28.000Confirming, Hunter Biden's lawyer responded to the text, confirming that it was a legitimate text, that the text is real, to the Communist Chinese, apparatchik.
00:40:51.000Anyone that cares or has been following the Hunter Biden scandal, the stuff with Burisma, anyone over the last three to four years, watch this video.
00:41:00.000You're going to want more when it ends.
00:41:02.000I don't know if they only got three and a half out of her, but I mean, this is a tactic that can be continued to be used by the news media until, forbid, they stop.
00:41:11.000It's like, they're supposed to ask about these stories, but this is the point I was bringing up in the debate show.
00:41:17.000I'm like, how about if you don't know whether or not Joe Biden did or did not engage in a quid pro quo, you just say, yeah, I don't know enough about that, but I don't like Biden, so I'm not going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
00:41:28.000How about you just say, I'm not going to comment.
00:41:29.000For some reason, there's this adamant need among these left personalities.
00:41:33.000Like, I'm not talking about liberals, either, like leftists will be like, I don't like Joe Biden, I won't defend him, but this story is not true.
00:41:38.000And I'm like, you don't know anything about the story, why are you defending him?
00:41:47.000The New York Times can come out, how about this, Politico magazine can come out, outright be like, the Biden family fortune has tracked perfectly alongside Biden's career in government.
00:41:59.000His brother getting contracts to do construction in Iraq, things like this.
00:42:04.000And then they come out and say, never happened.
00:42:05.000And I'm like, I just don't understand this need to be like, nothing to see here, nothing to see here, Biden's perfect.
00:42:11.000Now, all of a sudden, with the corporate narrative shifting, probably because they don't want Biden for 2024, now I'm wondering if we'll see these left personals be like, we never liked Biden, what are you talking about?
00:42:22.000That's exactly what's going to end up happening because they consider the mainstream narrative to be their kind of God in a lot of ways.
00:42:29.000They don't know how to see things through any other lens because they track anything else as propaganda and anything else as anti-establishment, which gets a label of being like it's against them inherently.
00:42:45.000They don't think you're asking your questions honestly.
00:42:47.000They think you're asking your questions to trap them in something because you have your own agenda rather than the agenda of just wanting to know what the hell is going on.
00:42:55.000It's because you're evil and you brought it up and right-wingers brought up that Burisma tape thing.
00:43:00.000So, like, therefore it has to be invalid.
00:43:02.000And, you know, you've asked two people about this on air and they haven't seen the video, which is fascinating.
00:43:07.000Every time we ask a liberal or left personality about the quid pro quo Joe Biden thing, fire the prosecutor, you're not getting a billion dollars, I've never heard of that.
00:43:39.000It's like people like you, they feel like you're about to lead them into a corner where they don't have enough information.
00:43:44.000And so their inherent reaction is to just lash out.
00:43:47.000Plus they've had a lot of things held from them for the last two years, three years.
00:43:51.000After all the social media networks made sure you didn't know what was going on with Hunter Biden, made sure you didn't know what was going on with Burisma.
00:43:58.000I know plenty of people who just don't even know what that is, who don't know anything that's going on there.
00:44:03.000But for a public figure or an online figure, agreeing with somebody on the right or the people who shared that Burisma video is worse than the hypocrisy, because who's going to call them out on the hypocrisy?
00:44:12.000Only people that they perceive to be more on the right than them.
00:44:35.000And for him, that might be fair because he does more cultural stuff and he admits that.
00:44:38.000But like for her, she does presidential politics on a daily basis.
00:44:42.000And she's like, I've never watched the clip.
00:44:44.000It's a question of why Hunter said that never happened instead of just being like, I'm not familiar with that, but I'm not going to defend Joe Biden.
00:45:39.000The thing is about that is that's just bad faith.
00:45:41.000They're doing that because they know that they have large audiences and there's no way they're going to agree to what you said because that tweet then lasts forever.
00:45:49.000So they're just lying because it's beneficial to them.
00:45:52.000But then he got community noted through like through the stratosphere with all these links, including a CNN fact check, which is the greatest CNN fact check to ever air ever on any the probably the best 60 seconds to ever air on any cable news ever, where CNN had to get fact checked on air that Hillary Clinton did, in fact, smash all of her devices with a hammer.
00:46:14.000That was one of their Supreme Court reporters, Boris Epstein.
00:46:18.000Have you seen the fact check from one of these websites on that specifically?
00:46:21.000It's that Hillary Clinton destroyed her devices, and they were destroyed with a hammer, but she had a staffer do it, therefore it's like mostly false.
00:46:33.000It's like the weasel words are almost unfathomable.
00:46:37.000It's like when you make a claim, you better be the most specific as humanly possible, otherwise you're a liar, but they can make any general claim and then it's like, well, It's obviously true about you, though, especially if they're accusing you of something.
00:46:51.000It is so important in this age of, if you think we're in a culture war, that you use the right words, that you are very specific.
00:46:58.000And then Hillary Clinton, no, I'm sorry, a Hillary Clinton staffer then took a hammer, it was this ounce hammer, and they smashed it on the ground.
00:47:05.000You have to literally say the exact thing, otherwise they're going to use that, because they know, they don't care if people read the fact check, they just want people to see that there's a fact check on it.
00:47:38.000You seem to have been hallucinating a lot lately.
00:47:40.000Of course, he's fact-checked then by CNN, Business Insider, and Snopes, proving Hillary Clinton did in fact have her phones destroyed by a hammer.
00:47:48.000I don't know if they're lying or that they're just... Is the problem.
00:47:54.000Stupid people on the internet are tribal and will attract followers and continue to say stupid things, and then we're just arguing with brick walls.
00:48:05.000I used to give them the benefit of the doubt.
00:48:06.000I don't give them the benefit of the doubt anymore.
00:48:08.000Very rarely do I give them the benefit of the doubt that I think that he just didn't know that.
00:48:12.000I think that a lot of them are just acting in bad faith.
00:48:51.000That is a fact statement that is true and provably true.
00:48:56.000Now, if I were to say Hillary Clinton grabbed a hammer in her bare hands and in a blinding rage shattered those phones, that would not be true.
00:49:05.000Hillary Clinton did use a hammer to destroy the devices.
00:49:07.000She had her staffers take a hammer and use the hammer to do it.
00:49:10.000So it's a question of, when it comes to statements of fact, whether it's defamation or not, what Nancy May said is a true statement.
00:49:19.000You might argue, well you should clarify, Hillary Clinton had staff members destroy phones with a hammer, and that's probably a better way to phrase it.
00:49:27.000I don't think she was thinking... I don't think Nancy Mace was like, how do I articulate this perfectly?
00:49:30.000I think she was like, Hillary Clinton used a hammer to do this because she did.
00:49:33.000Just, if it does imply that Hillary personally did it, I think clarification is fine.
00:49:38.000Keith Upperman is either lying or just...
00:51:25.000They'll then write 500 words about the story and the claims at the bottom and say, while it is true he did the backflip, it was on Saturday, not Sunday.
00:53:12.000The FBI said that, you know, in some way were used with her private email server.
00:53:17.000And they did in some cases just destroy them with hammers when they were done.
00:53:21.000Which doesn't do anything to stop, to get rid of the data on it.
00:53:25.000You can easily, you can, I think if, I'll be very careful with my words.
00:53:30.000Even after these things are burned in fires, you can still recover data from them.
00:53:34.000And it's, it's, the smashing with hammer, absolutely idiotic.
00:53:38.000So the question then is, why is Olbermann asserting something that is not true?
00:53:42.000Is it because he's stupid and arrogant, or is he intentionally trying to lie?
00:53:47.000I believe that the left has a Munchausen-by-proxy relationship with their audience, and that they intentionally lie because they know that they're a cult that will only believe what comes out of the glowing box, and they want that cult to be manipulatable, they need that cult to be actionable, and they need them to be the NPC meme, where you just take the chip out of the back of the head and you replace it with Black Lives Matter, or the transgender flag, or whatever.
00:54:52.000I was—yesterday, I was pretty down, thinking like, oh, actually, maybe evil triumphs over good, usually, and they just tell everyone that they were the good guys.
00:54:58.000Like, what is this whole—I felt so down and so, like, hopeless, and then I was like, Oh, how easy it would be to just say, yo, go Ukraine.
00:55:19.000Have you seen that movie, The School for Good and Evil?
00:55:23.000So I'm unable to work, so of course I'm just watching whatever's available, and I watched this movie, and it's basically, it's like a kid, teenage movie or whatever, where, I don't know what the point of the movie was, it was pretty dumb, but the idea is that in the fairytale world, there's a school that has an evil side and a good side, and they train all the Prince Charmings, and they train all the wicked witches, and, spoiler alert, I'm gonna ruin the story for all of you, to go on to, but you've been warned, spoiler.
00:55:49.000The actual outcome of the story is the good side was corrupted hundreds of years ago and they had become vain and vapid and snooty and narcissistic and they were gloating about how good they were but they're actually fairly corrupted and evil and so you know that was your point like I just watched this movie and that was the idea they they actually conveyed that what we think of as good has been corrupted a long time ago and now it's just vanity and It's like the Biden administration.
00:56:48.000Smart people would impeach Merrick Garland and let Joe Biden run.
00:56:50.000The reason that the reporters are going haywire now and just turning on Biden is because they feel ashamed about how they were misled about the submersible story.
00:57:01.000I think when you embarrass them and make them look bad personally, they're petty and they get mad at that.
00:57:07.000And as for the Keith Olbermann thing, remember, he's an anchor actor.
00:57:09.000He doesn't do what you do, where you do your research and then you... Somebody else puts the things in the prompter.
00:57:14.000So he might not be... I don't think he's technically stupid, but he might actually not be lying.
00:57:20.000Look, I think... I genuinely think that a large component of the culture war divide is intelligence.
00:57:29.000And we were having this joke about doing a culture war episode where we, I think Seamus made the joke, he said there's this new podcast where they get a bunch of, you know, young girls who have never, was that Seamus who said that?
00:57:40.000Young girls who have never been challenged on anything and then make them look stupid or whatever.
00:57:44.000And then we were all joking about how we should have like a 56-year-old PhD conservative guy debate and like three 18-year-old Doesn't the Whatever podcast already do that?
00:58:42.000When we sit down with someone, and this is why you don't see liberals come on shows like this, they rarely want to, there's a small handful that do, and they often grift, and then I'm like, this is the problem we run into when we do things like this.
00:58:55.000It's kind of like rehashing the show we did this morning, I know that, but at the same time, when I see Keith Olbermann tweeting this, it brings this up to me.
00:59:05.000You can't have a conversation with someone who is, you can't argue policy with someone who can't comprehend policy.
00:59:13.000If you say something like, you know, I think that we need to, I'll give you an example.
00:59:18.000We were talking about the issue of trans kids, and I said, we have a study that shows desistance is 68 to 95, 61 to 95% with no intervention.
00:59:29.000That would indicate that no intervention is the safest course of action for children.
00:59:33.000And Emma did not understand that and said, but the doctors say it's good, so we should do it.
00:59:38.000And if my point is, the study we have suggests X, and the response is, but the government, I shouldn't say government, but the authority says it's good, you can't convince someone who doesn't understand the math or the science or the argument.
00:59:58.000It's appeal to authority and that's why the school system's so good at it, right?
01:00:00.000Because they're trained to appeal to authority right from the very beginning.
01:00:03.000So they're just going to defer to whatever the person in charge says,
01:00:06.000even if there's data that proves that person in charge to be incorrect.
01:00:10.000So a really good example of the challenges we're facing in the culture war from this morning.
01:00:15.000For those that listen to this show, y'all know that we've actually had this debate quite a bit
01:00:19.000over what it means to support parental rights.
01:00:24.000Ron DeSantis passes this bill for the legislature, the parental rights in education, and then we have the conversation of what does it mean to be in favor of parents' rights?
01:00:32.000What if the parents want the right to have a doctor prescribe a sex change to their child?
01:00:36.000Well, every conservative media says, no, you don't have that right and the government should stop you.
01:00:40.000Then on the left, I actually asked Emma, what about the government mandating children get vaccines?
01:00:45.000She goes, well, yes, I believe in public health.
01:00:47.000And I'm like, okay, so you're not in favor of parental rights.
01:00:50.000The saying you're for or against parental rights is a completely meaningless statement, because everyone's moral line is going to be completely different.
01:01:00.000And it's very difficult to have a real conversation with someone who doesn't understand the, or, not even that, but can't actually comprehend basic moral philosophy.
01:01:11.000So it's, if we're sitting in a room and we're saying, let us break down why we have the policy, should we enact a different policy, and how can we make the lives better for everybody, and they say, Duh.
01:01:24.000I don't understand what you're saying.
01:01:47.000Those three giggling, dumb, vapid teenage girls have three votes to that conservative Ph.D.' 's one vote.
01:01:53.000And this is what we're dealing with in the culture war.
01:01:55.000And I bring this up because I'm seeing, like, the Keith Olbermann thing.
01:01:58.000When it comes to issues of Burisma, when it comes to issues of Hillary Clinton doing these things, these are not left or right wing things.
01:02:04.000These are things that are discernibly true that we have questions about.
01:02:07.000I can sit here and be like, Barack Obama killed Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki in a drone strike in a civilian restaurant in Yemen, and he should be criminally charged and prosecuted, and if found guilty, be held accountable for murder of an American citizen.
01:02:19.000Donald Trump ordered a commando raid in Yemen.
01:02:21.000Which reportedly, according to the family, resulted in the death of an eight-year-old girl, Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki's sister.
01:02:43.000But for some reason, when you have a conversation with someone like Keith Olbermann or many liberals, they will just be like, The Burisma video never happened.
01:02:51.000And I'm like, you know you're making that up, because we have the video to play.
01:02:57.000And they're saying, he was never being investigated.
01:02:59.000But we know for a fact, and there's a sworn affidavit from Shokin, there were a dozen investigations into Mykola Zlochevsky.
01:03:05.000Instead of actually engaging with you, they'll either be unable to actually comprehend the moral philosophy, or the math and science behind what you're arguing, and then they'll just lie.
01:03:16.000I think the tribalism nature of it short circuits their brain just a little bit.
01:03:20.000Like, you can't actually go forward when you have a dog in the fight of who wins.
01:03:24.000So it's like, if we're okay with the idea that Obama is prosecuted for war crimes, and you also have to be okay with the idea that Trump would be prosecuted for the same thing if he did indeed do that same thing.
01:03:36.000But if they have a dog in the fight, if they say, no, I cannot let Barack Obama or Joe Biden or whoever fall because I believe so strongly in the leftist cause,
01:03:46.000I guess it's not really liberal, it's neoliberal at best.
01:03:49.000Like you can't allow new data because you're just not going to believe
01:03:59.000Sort of, but I do think cognitive incapabilities is a strong, is a stronger component of this.
01:04:08.000A couple examples, when we had Matt Binder on, he kept saying, you think trans people don't exist, which is a nonsense statement that conveys no logical thought other than it's a thing the left says.
01:04:17.000And when I responded with, they certainly exist.
01:05:05.000And I do think there is an aspect of it because like, I'm a dummy.
01:05:09.000I'm a dummy, but I'm also not biased as to, I don't really care who's guilty or I care about who's guilty and who's innocent.
01:05:14.000I don't have a dog in the fight of whether it's Trump, whether it's Obama.
01:05:18.000I just want it to be I want the facts.
01:05:20.000But everyone in this room right now, and I would say the overwhelming majority of guests we have on this show, can understand a concept of A plus B equals C. So if I say, here's my position, they go, oh, okay, I understand, I disagree with you.
01:05:35.000Whereas these conversations with these lefties is just like blank stare confusion and then nonsense response.
01:05:40.000I really think a lot of it more just has to do with the tribal.
01:05:43.000I think the tribalism short circuits their brain, but also maybe they don't engage in enough healthy debate with people that they generally agree with.
01:05:50.000People here are going to agree and disagree on various things all the time, right?
01:05:54.000Like we could have a debate on any topic here tonight.
01:05:56.000We may fall in line on some things and see eye to eye on other things.
01:06:15.000And Ben Rhodes does this really instructive interview about how they were able to get so many lies manufactured and merchandised and laundered in the Obama administration about the Iran deal, about what they were doing in the Middle East, about the drone strikes.
01:06:29.000And he says, oh, Oh, guys, do you know who makes up reporters?
01:06:34.000You think it's a bunch of Walter Cronkites shuffling around with dandruff on their jackets being like, well, actually, in the Carter era, he's like, no.
01:07:05.000You get some 24-year-old, fresh out of college, $50,000 a year, starting journalist, and you go to them and say, you work in the government, you say, I'm going to be your source.
01:07:16.000You are going to have all of the inside scoops on all of these stories, and it's going to make you a household name.
01:07:22.000And then they go, oh boy, I have a source.
01:07:25.000And then they're gonna go to their boss and they're gonna be like, here's my source in the government.
01:07:57.000So my main point with all of this was, you know, and we're going to be doing these culture war shows every Friday, so it's going to be a whole lot more of this.
01:08:08.000I really think that the challenge we face is the culture war may be People of... The social media is granting access of people of low cognitive function to spaces of high-level discourse.
01:08:24.000And we respectfully allow them to have these conversations, but it's like a 55-year-old, you know, PhD political scientist having a debate with three 18-year-old teenage girls who Like, don't do anything other than go on TikTok and Instagram.
01:09:01.000Yeah, it's called cognitive dissonance, at least one way to term it.
01:09:04.000And I think it is a good thing to have those conversations, even when they feel fruitless sometimes, because it doesn't all happen at once.
01:09:11.000You don't change someone's mind in a moment.
01:09:13.000Every once in a while you do, but it's pretty rare.
01:09:30.000Emma Vigeland, Sean Fitzgerald, aka ActualJusticeWarrior, we were all having this conversation.
01:09:36.000I will say, again, I felt a little bad because it did seem like two versus one because I wasn't intending on that.
01:09:42.000But I think there's one really important point that people need to understand about why I want to do shows like this.
01:09:47.000I do not believe we will convince Emma or anyone at the majority report or any liberal or leftist of any of our positions, but I don't care.
01:09:55.000What I think is important is that we produced a show where Emma said that she wanted children to be able to watch porn at the age of 10 years old.
01:10:02.000And so I'm like, I don't need you to argue that point to me.
01:10:08.000What I need to do is when I'm talking to my friend from back home in Chicago who's telling me it never happened, I'm going to play that clip of me being like, we should not be showing a book to children that contains blowjobs and have this person on the left say, we should and it's fine and they're okay with it.
01:10:49.000Say it right there to the camera, for everyone to watch, so that finally, when I go to my friend and say, you know these people put porn in schools, they'll say, that's not true.
01:10:57.000I'll be like, let me play the video for you.
01:10:58.000Let me show you the clip where they, and then here's the book, and now they'll be like, oh I guess they do support those things.
01:11:03.000The Borg will end up ending your career.
01:11:05.000So to come here today, I flew into Virginia.
01:11:08.000And Virginia, by every right, should have a Democrat governor.
01:11:17.000Actually, it goes directly back to a single point in time.
01:11:20.000Their Previous Democrat governor on a radio show, live like we are now, said that children should be born and then the mother should stare at her child in the bassinet and decide whether it should die.
01:11:34.000He said they should comfort the babies, keep them comfortable, and then the mother should have a decision of a post-birth abortion.
01:11:44.000I tried to explain that to people because I'm from Minnesota.
01:12:11.000So it's like, you, you don't get to just laugh it off and stick your head in the sand and say, this isn't happening or I don't think it's that big of a
01:12:19.000There is an argument to be made, depending on how politically active the person you're having
01:12:24.000this discussion with, you have to watch your tone because if you get too...
01:12:27.000Because these things upset people, right? And you're like, no, this is real. And you
01:12:30.000shove it in their face. A lot of times people just shut down and they don't want to have that
01:12:35.000That's a lot to just throw on someone at a moment's notice, but I think it goes to what you're saying about keeping people calm because you have to keep them calm and informed because as these things continue to happen, as these things continue to grow in other legislations, you need the evidence that these people actually think this way because it does sound ridiculous.
01:12:53.000That's child sacrifice by every definition.
01:13:03.000It's a literal child sacrifice like Aztec level child sacrifice is what the governor of Virginia advocated for and so Democrats need to own that because that's their party and you need to absorb the fact that that's what you represent.
01:13:15.000They just run fact checks saying it didn't happen, it didn't happen, it didn't happen.
01:13:18.000And then what they'll do is, they'll run a headline that says, didn't Ralph Northam, on a video, advocate for and explain post-birth abortion?
01:13:26.000And then what they'll say is, the governor was referring to babies who were born with abnormalities who could not survive on their own and need a resuscitation.
01:15:24.000The ambiguity of Northam's remarks about late-term abortions, which has not since clarified, raised questions about what exactly he was proposing or advocating.
01:15:30.000He literally... Alright, do we have the clip?
01:16:05.000There was a very contentious committee hearing yesterday when Fairfax County Delegate Kathy Tran made her case for lifting restrictions on third trimester abortions, as well as other restrictions now in place.
01:16:15.000And she was pressed by a Republican delegate about whether her bill would permit an abortion, even as a woman is essentially dilating, ready to give birth.
01:16:24.000And she answered, that it would permit an abortion at that stage of labor.
01:16:30.000Do you support her measure and explain her answer?
01:16:34.000Yeah, you know, I wasn't there, Julie, and I certainly can't speak for Delegate Tran, but I would tell you, one, the first thing I would say, this is why decisions such as this should be made by providers.
01:16:55.000There are, you know, when we talk about third trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of obviously the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician, by the way.
01:17:09.000And it's done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that's non-viable.
01:17:15.000So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen.
01:17:26.000The infant would be resuscitated, if that's what the mother and the family desired.
01:17:31.000And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.
01:17:35.000So I think this was really blown out of proportion.
01:17:38.000But again, we want the government not to be involved in these types of decisions.
01:17:43.000We want the decision to be made by The mothers and their providers.
01:17:48.000And this is why, Julie, that legislators, most of whom are men, by the way, shouldn't be telling a woman what she should and shouldn't be doing with her body.
01:17:59.000Should have to weigh in as is currently required.
01:18:02.000She's trying to lift that requirement.
01:18:04.000Well, I think it's always good to get a second opinion and for at least... I wanted it to play out to show you that the context did not circle back and that there was no other further clarifying points and I want to stress he outright said the context of the conversation was no restriction abortions up to the point of birth and he said yes and the doctor and the mother should make that decision and then he goes on to explain a circumstance in which the baby is delivered and brought into another room.
01:18:51.000This is depraved evil from the pit of hell.
01:18:55.000Do have the capacity as a moral person you don't even have to be a christian muslim jew doesn't matter to me as a moral person you should be able to stand up for the life of a small helpless infant who was just born as i have held my little newborn babies in my hand and say you do not deserve to die and someone who is wishing to take your life is a literal demon thank god that man and his party lost in the great so i want to point out the snopes headline
01:19:41.000They say the ambiguity of his remarks about late-term abortions What?
01:19:47.000She asked, could a woman get an abortion at the point of labor, and he says, well, yeah, you know, it's up to the doctor and the mother to decide.
01:19:53.000If it's up to the doctor and the mother to decide, he's basically saying that they could choose yes if need be.
01:19:58.000So the simple point is, the left immediately goes to, he's talking about deformity and abnormality, and my response was like, you think deformed people should be killed?
01:20:35.000The reason why I want to do these shows, why we had, I believe, Matt Binder, as well as Lance, say there should be no restrictions at all on abortion, even up to the point of birth.
01:21:44.000And all of that leads up to him own-goaling himself and saying, well, the baby will be delivered, and, you know, we put a blanket around it, and then we'd have a conversation about killing it.
01:22:13.000We don't want people to have Down syndrome, but we don't kill people for having it.
01:22:20.000The left advocates for the termination of a life if it does have Down syndrome.
01:22:23.000I do not believe that having what they would describe as Down syndrome, I don't believe any view of that, negative or positive, it's mostly negative, warrants the death or cessation of life.
01:22:56.000The whole point of him bringing up the part about deformities is because what he's preying on is the idea that you would think that nobody would do it if there weren't deformities, right?
01:23:06.000Not realizing that most of the time when this stuff is happening, that's not necessarily going to be the situation that's going to come of it.
01:23:12.000So when they leave that conversation, they don't leave They don't leave that clip, watching that clip, thinking he just advocated for people to be able to abort a child after it's born.
01:23:23.000What they leave with is him saying, well, he's saying that if somebody's deformed, then why would you?
01:23:53.000The deformity for Margaret Sanger was a race she didn't like.
01:23:57.000And that is why Planned Parenthood was started with the express intent of getting rid of a racial population that Margaret Sanger didn't like.
01:24:03.000And that's why Planned Parenthood was started in the inner cities.
01:24:12.000What's amazing is that if you're in favor of curing Down syndrome, like some kind of medication that would raise their IQ so they no longer have Down syndrome, they would be against you.
01:24:35.000If you know, they went after that autism organization because they had Finding a Cure still on their website.
01:24:40.000Also, I mean, that's very common also in the deaf community because they consider it part of their identity.
01:24:44.000So a lot of... they don't want the cochlear implant.
01:24:46.000They don't want to change it because they've considered it part of who they are, right?
01:24:49.000So they're saying the same thing about learning disabilities, which is not inherently... But it's one thing for you to not want it, but it's very interesting that they find the idea of curing deafness to be offensive.
01:25:03.000I'm open to this conversation about designer babies, CRISPR technologies, like genetic technology of things in the womb, babies in the womb, things, but creatures in the womb of any kind.
01:25:13.000And I think if you could cure blindness or deafness in the womb early on, of course you would do that.
01:25:18.000I can't imagine why anyone would want not to do that if it was safe.
01:25:23.000So there's like a zoo in Tampa and there's a small animal that has, there's like a manatee that was born with like a little flipper.
01:25:36.000And these manatees are really cute, and it's in Florida, right?
01:25:39.000So there's this big manatee tank, and you go underwater, and it's cool lighting, and there's neat music, and you watch the manatees eat these giant balls of lettuce.
01:25:48.000And they just gobble up these lettuce.
01:25:49.000How does this huge animal only eat lettuce?
01:25:51.000Anyway, you see this famous little manatee, only he's got a little flipper.
01:25:57.000You're arguing for the killing of that manatee.
01:26:00.000Like, look, what you're doing as a leftist, is you're saying that you should have seen the manatee's flipper, and as soon as it was born, as a little teeny little ball of goo, a joyous little ball, or a panda, or whoever you happen to be, the pandas in DC, they're very famous, you're taking the panda, who's born, that's a miracle, because it's very hard to breed pandas in captivity, And you're taking that panda, and you're like, ooh, but the panda's black stripe isn't exactly down the middle of its face, so... See ya!
01:27:04.000I understand where it comes from, but we don't live in that society right now.
01:27:07.000But still, I still support a woman's right to choose early on in the pregnancy, personally, up to 16 weeks or something when it's still in early development.
01:29:08.000So my wife and I had our second child last year and the doctor comes in.
01:29:15.000This is something that is horrible for every parent.
01:29:18.000You get all these checkups and you get the ultrasound and they do these very sophisticated ultrasounds.
01:29:23.000The doctor comes in and goes, I'm really sorry, but you got a problem.
01:29:28.000You have a, let me see if I can remember this right, an aortic, some type of aortic affibulation where your daughter's heart is not developing correctly.
01:29:40.000And you'll, worst case scenario, she won't be able to survive when she's born.
01:29:47.000Best case scenario, we could maybe do, we could maybe do a Open heart surgery when she's born.
01:29:53.000And so we'll have the team there and we'll try and we'll make sure that like, you know, we'll have the open heart surgeons there.
01:30:02.000And that's what the medical experts at this very sophisticated, very good hospital, excellent hospital, private hospital, Catholic hospital told us.
01:30:12.000And I'm not trying to put them on blast.
01:30:14.000Because my daughter was born and she was perfect.
01:30:22.000And then we brought her in, she was breathing, her heart rate was perfect, even after every expert told us, we're gonna need to do open heart surgery on your daughter when she's born.
01:30:32.000We bring her in for her first week checkup to check this specific heartbeat issue where her heart valves weren't developing correctly.
01:31:14.000No, no, this is you living your truth.
01:31:16.000And actually, you are doing the kid a favor.
01:31:18.000And so my beautiful, bubbly one-year-old named Juliet would not exist today because medical science, which was wrong, which was 100% wrong, or I'm just the recipient of a miracle.
01:31:34.000The other way is that I'm a recipient of a miracle, and God healed my child.
01:31:40.000Either way, they were wrong, and I couldn't imagine my life without her.
01:31:46.000Conservatives need to understand that you're not going to legislate cultural morality.
01:31:51.000This idea that you can make something illegal is nonsense.
01:31:56.000Everybody in the country is smoking it like crazy.
01:31:58.000So this idea that you would approach the issue of abortion by saying we should just completely ban it outright, I can certainly understand the pro-life argument.
01:32:04.000Well, you would get rid of a lot of it, sure.
01:32:07.000You need to focus on mending the culture.
01:32:12.000I think it was Ron Paul, he said it shouldn't be illegal, it should be unthinkable.
01:32:16.000If you have a culture that gloats and laughs and mocks and does like, what's that comedian who went on Netflix and said, everyone gets abortions, you get an abortion.
01:32:22.000Michelle Wolf, I think that's her name.
01:32:24.000And I think Lena Dunham said that, although she'd never been pregnant, she'd wished she had gotten an abortion or something to that effect.
01:32:31.000That is like a culture that is sick and in need of help.
01:32:33.000So that we get to the point where we say, like, that shouldn't happen.
01:32:37.000Why is it happening that people are promoting these things that are bad?
01:32:40.000And then, you know, we say, let's not do those things.
01:32:44.000We have a movement to de-stigmatize everything, because stigma is considered a dirty word, but stigma is actually valuable, and we should use it more often in specific circumstances.
01:32:53.000Like, shaming is also a good public tool for bad behavior.
01:32:57.000Like, we need societal pressure to disincentivize poor behavior, and it goes well beyond this topic, in my opinion.
01:33:03.000Yeah, I feel like we could take another two hours and talk about the porn industry, and making that an illegal part of it, but it's 9.30, we're probably going to Super Chats pretty soon, I don't want to take us too deep in, but like, Give me your take.
01:33:15.000Well, like you porn, there's potentially underage people on there and it's not very well.
01:33:20.000And it's like you somewhat like even I think Emma on the show was saying that it should be a legal for nine or 10 year old step.
01:33:27.000I'm not putting words in your mouth, Emma, but that, uh, to have access to, to be able to see pornography, like you were, you were purchasing a book in the library.
01:33:27.000I wasn't there and I didn't see a show.
01:33:37.000And then she, I, she, she didn't give like a good direct answer because they, you can't But she said that I was in favor of censorship when I argued that children shouldn't have access to books that depict kink and porn, and I said, yes I am.
01:33:50.000And she goes, so you support censorship?
01:33:52.000I was like, first of all, if you watched this show, if you watched my show at any point, you'd know that we actually praise censorship All the time!
01:33:58.000And we talk about how some things... I was like, so do you want Playboy for kids in schools?
01:34:22.000Right, she said, this book is called This Book is Gay, and she said it was a good book.
01:34:25.000And I'm like, kids should not be learning how to go on Grindr to have sex with adults.
01:34:29.000We need a revolution in sexual education in our current society because of the way pornography has proliferated for nine-year-olds to gain access to on the internet if their parents aren't watching, or if they go to school and a kid has a cell phone.
01:34:42.000And I don't know if Making it illegal, like you're saying, if we can legislate it away.
01:34:47.000I mean, you can take YouPorn down and that will reduce the amount of it, but it doesn't mean that it's not gonna... People will still share things on their phones.
01:34:56.000Kids will still share pictures of even themselves, which is still illegal.
01:35:01.000But if they were to, when they went after Pornhub, it eliminated a good portion of their content because they did not verify the ages of a lot of the girls.
01:35:10.000I don't think that we should... Let me put it this way.
01:35:13.000When the internet first emerged, nobody cared because it was small.
01:35:16.000And they were like, eh, nobody uses it.
01:35:18.000There's those famous videos where the newscasters are like, this internet thing's not taking off.
01:35:23.000And then someone was explaining how you could buy a movie ticket, and he goes, what's the point?
01:35:27.000I can walk down there and hand them cash.
01:35:30.000And then, of course, the internet is everything now.
01:35:32.000We need to recognize that We're no longer talking about someone walking in a dark alley with a dirty magazine, and those things sometimes happen.
01:35:40.000We're talking about someone buying a billboard in Times Square of Goatsy or something like that.
01:35:44.000And any kid can just stumble upon it and go, ah!
01:35:47.000And we probably need to say, yeah, you can't do that.
01:35:50.000But I gotta say, we have become, in many ways, it's anarcho-tyrannic.
01:35:57.000We've become authoritarian in a bunch of ways and horrifying libertarian in very, very bad ways.
01:36:02.000So we need a cohesive culture that permits liberties in some areas and restricts things in other areas.
01:36:18.000But we're just like, well, it's free speech, it's legal, you can show all of it.
01:36:21.000And then it's like, okay, there's a moral question about the limits here.
01:36:25.000You might say, don't tread on me or whatever, and my argument is, you're literally allowing people to sell graphic images to kids, and we need a way to deal with that.
01:36:53.000That we're in this era where everyone just knows and accepts that a ten-year-old kid with their phone is gonna see... Do you want to talk about dark stuff?
01:37:04.000They can get access on their phone to videos of murders happening, of like snuff films.
01:37:09.000Yo, when I was a kid, back in my day, I'll tell you what...
01:37:31.000I only heard about my friends who one time saw it at this one place.
01:37:35.000You'd go to the video store, and they would have a room with a curtain where it's like, you gotta be 18 to go in that room.
01:37:40.000Kids could not go in that room, so you couldn't see these things.
01:37:43.000I was just, the other day, I was on, I was looking on Twitter, and it was the video of the rapper dying on stage, and I'm just like, uh, he, they're saying it's like, people are like, the conspiracy is that it was from vaccine injury, right?
01:37:54.000But like, rappers just on stage have, like, I don't know if it's a heart attack, just keels over and dies, and I'm just like... Was it a big show?
01:38:01.000It was like, I don't remember his name, but it was like a Houston rapper.
01:38:05.000And yeah, just, it's like a 45 second clip.
01:38:07.000You see him, like he's performing, he kind of stops, he hesitates, and then he just keels over and dies.
01:38:29.000Soup, he's not like morbidly obese, he's obese.
01:38:32.000But you watch the video and you see him, his body just kind of tenses up and he looks like he's like, he stops and then he just keels over.
01:39:10.000Make it so that not only do you have to be signed in to see it, you've got to press a filter button and enter your age, so it's triple layered.
01:39:16.000And then it keeps the newsworthiness available for people.
01:39:18.000You make it so ads will never appear next to it, and kids shouldn't be able to get access to it, assuming they're logged in and appropriate age.
01:40:30.000Luke Rutkowski has been on the show all the time, and he talks on his show about the exact same thing he talks about when he's on this show.
01:40:36.000Well, he might get a little spicier in some areas and talk more on foreign policy.
01:40:40.000And they claimed reused content, which is a false demonetization.
01:40:44.000Luke does very similar videos to me where he shows articles and comments on the news and they claimed it was reused content.
01:40:50.000Reused content is for when you take someone else's video and post it to your channel without doing anything with it.
01:41:02.000I know exactly what happened to you because it happened to my channel.
01:41:04.000When you're doing shorts, which YouTube is pushing and pushing a lot of eyeballs to shorts, you need to be in those shorts and you need to be commenting on them.
01:41:14.000So you're saying Luke was posting full minutes of other people's videos?
01:41:18.000Luke was posting clips and that hit my channel too.
01:41:41.000YouTube needs you to be in, the creator needs to be in the content.
01:41:45.000So for YouTube Shorts, Luke was doing that?
01:41:47.000For YouTube Shorts, this happened to my channel.
01:41:49.000So YouTube Shorts is a relatively new product, you just upload a clip, Joe Biden falls down the stairs, you just slap in the clip in there, you just send it out.
01:41:58.000I wanted to talk with Luke, I'm like, dude, this is what, this is what it is.
01:42:02.000You need to, you can't just upload any clip to Shorts.
01:42:20.000I'm just trying to be a dude and say, Luke, this is how you fix that issue of the demonetization and the unoriginal content, because I have it on my channel.
01:42:30.000All right, let's grab some more Super Chats.
01:42:33.000Akinsu Ocha says, glad to have you back.
01:42:35.000Just like all leftists, that woman was hard to listen to because she kept putting words in everyone's mouth and wouldn't let others talk, but it needs to be done to further the conversation and respect it.
01:42:43.000Well, look, I appreciate her coming on.
01:42:44.000I know the Majority Report people really do want to come on this show.
01:42:48.000Out of all the people we invite, they're the ones who are begging to come on the show.
01:42:52.000Emma hit us up and we were like, absolutely, we'll have you on.
01:42:54.000But I do want to point out my favorite moment in the show was when she asked me what I liked about DeSantis' policy, and then I started talking about COVID restrictions and leadership, and then she interrupted me and said, no policy.
01:43:06.000And then I said, okay, well, the culture war stuff obviously matter a lot.
01:43:09.000And then when I brought up specifically, she goes, no, what is he doing now?
01:43:13.000And I'm like, okay, well, removing these books.
01:43:15.000She goes, I don't want to hear about anecdotes.
01:43:17.000I want to talk about the bigger picture.
01:43:18.000And I'm like, you literally asked me for a specific example.
01:43:21.000I gave you one and you got mad at me for it.
01:43:23.000So it was like, what I think happened was, I believe that she was given talking points before the show,
01:43:30.000likely by Sam or someone else at the majority report.
01:44:09.000Tim, are you being triggered right now?
01:44:11.000I've lowered my voice after I've aggravated you.
01:44:13.000Oh, there's a term for that in psychology, where you get the other person upset, and then you're like, you're so upset, what's wrong with you?
01:44:19.000I call it NPR voicing, where they go to the NPR voice.
01:44:24.000It's funny, I was watching a clip with Joe Rogan, I was watching the Joe Rogan podcast, and then he goes, one guy asked him a question, I can't remember the question, he goes, what are you doing?
01:44:32.000Are you trying to make a viral clip right now?
01:44:39.000But this is literally why we don't have these people on the show, because they intentionally come on, will say something shocking, provocative, or nonsensical, so they can get a drama clip to make money.
01:44:50.000Let me just stress, The Majority Report has like 170 clips about Dave Rubin.
01:44:56.000Okay, Dave Rubin has his own channel and he talks, but he is like, look, We have a bunch of clips about Biden and Hunter and Trump.
01:45:05.000David Pakman has a bunch of clips about these people.
01:45:47.000Oh yeah I have an answer for that because I think people that might be
01:45:50.000radicalized into becoming a neo-nazi in their lifetime will see shows like this
01:45:54.000and become de-radicalized. But the point is the show doesn't.
01:45:59.000In fact, we get threats from neo-Nazis, and even staunch conservatives are very critical of us.
01:46:05.000The goal of it was to get a viral clip on the internet that didn't matter what I said to her, it didn't matter if I responded at all.
01:46:13.000All that matters is they get a clip of her saying it, splice it together with something else, and then make a fake segment for their show, because that's what their show is, drama grifting garbage.
01:46:20.000And how aggravated you got when she accused you, by the way, of inspiring a violent terror attack, which you should be angry about, like, when somebody tries to put that on you.
01:46:28.000My point is, it didn't matter if I got aggravated or said nothing at all.
01:46:32.000No matter what I did, they would take that clip and then splice it with something else.
01:46:37.000And so, we then bring up the point, there was one guy who was posting stuff who had watched the Majority Report.
01:46:44.000You've mentioned the guy Gavin Long, who said he was inspired by the Young Turks.
01:46:47.000And then she just was like, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
01:46:50.000And she didn't respond to it because the goal... Here's my assumption.
01:46:54.000Sam said, specifically ask this question.
01:46:57.000It doesn't matter what they say afterwards.
01:46:59.000We need this clip for our show because it'll trick a bunch of morons into watching."
01:47:05.000So afterwards, when Sean then brings up a legitimate point of, how could you say that when you have, say, The Young Turks, where you used to work, was the actual inspiration for a guy who claimed it was, and she goes, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, she didn't respond in any capacity because it wouldn't do anything for their clip.
01:47:22.000She said the thing, it's on camera, they can make the clip, anything after that is pointless.
01:47:28.000So now it's like, she's just literally like, I'm done with the conversation, I came here, I got what I came for.
01:48:02.000And then he makes videos about Dave Rubin and me and other YouTubers because it's just, you've got people on YouTube and you want to get clicks, so you target the community that they're a part of, which is YouTube.
01:48:34.000They're saying things that are plum not true because they're lying to their audience and their audience just believes it.
01:48:40.000It's just, it's low tier internet drama garbage.
01:48:44.000I like to extricate that from people's careers and kind of refine the process to have more elucidated educational conversation.
01:48:54.000T-Rex Pet Shop says, when Emma accused you and asked why Nazis watch your show, to clarify the context, it was a guy who posted four screenshots.
01:49:16.000So she didn't even know what she was talking about.
01:49:18.000It was actually two because they're like the same timecode, more or less like a second off.
01:49:22.000So it's like something I do when I'm looking, when I see something and I want to respond to it, screenshot the app and like you save that timecode so you can go back and revisit it.
01:49:29.000What if the Nazis could have won World War II by taking pictures of Americans and putting them on their walls at home?
01:49:36.000T-Rex says, when Emma accused you and asked why Nazis watch your show in the culture war, all her future arguments weren't taken seriously in my mind.
01:52:51.000Razors used to have that in skating as well.
01:52:53.000Yeah, it's a good thing that these companies do, but we should definitely remorse for what you did.
01:52:56.000But real quick, even if it were true that you had all the people living here, which I've looked around, I didn't find anybody hidden in the basement while you weren't looking, but Their content creator houses are so normal in other non-political realms.
01:53:09.000They never criticize those as far as I know.
01:53:57.000Because if they went out and said, Tim Pool rolled up and did a nollie 540 bigspin first try, and he did a switch hardflip lateflip, you know, most of you have no idea what I'm saying, but skateboarders would be like, damn, I didn't know Tim was that good at skateboarding, and then all of a sudden it's like, uh-oh, we can't let this guy have cultural influence.
01:54:15.000So I will shout out the Barracks, the most prominent skate brand in the world, posted a clip of me doing a one foot nollie 360.
01:54:24.000So my point is this, they're very, very terrified of our cultural endeavors to the point where they're desperately trying to make it seem bad.
01:54:32.000That's why the majority report played our song in such a way, I'll describe, that made it sound really, really bad and then said it sounded really bad.
01:54:40.000And then she comes on the show and she's like, we don't have the technology to do that.
01:54:45.000You played it through like some speaker so it sounded like garbage and then said the music was garbage and look how bad it sounds to trick your audience.
01:55:20.000Legometha Gayen says that, I'm going to paraphrase because I think there's a bit too much invective, but I do want to appreciate your super chat and read it.
01:55:28.000He said that seeing Emma Vigeland mouth off at Sean about crime was sad.
01:55:36.000He said it was like seeing a disoriented baby fur seal arrogantly charged into the swinging arc club wielded by a barely disgruntled drunken Canadian fur trapper.
01:55:45.000Who hasn't had the comfort of a woman or a hot meal in a year.
01:56:49.000And they can't believe that we're the ones now running Rolling Stone.
01:56:52.000But there's a belief that it's a competition, like if Tim Cass wins, Majority Report loses, or vice versa, but the reality is we lift each other up.
01:57:00.000These conversations, Emma coming on this show earlier, being here, we're all gaining from this.
01:57:06.000Like, we're actually not competitors, like, because we're both on YouTube.
01:57:09.000But, like, Twitch, you have to stream and all that.
01:57:11.000But, like, uh, we can grow in our own separate areas and have crossover because, you know, people can always come back and watch the content.
01:58:22.000And then they played it on their show, in such a way that it sounded really awful, through some kind of filter, and then told their audience, it sounds awful, look how awful it sounds, it sounds like Nickelback.
02:00:32.000That's the conversation I want to have.
02:00:34.000I would like to have Destiny be like, here's my position on surrogacy, and then sit down with a conservative who opposes it, and then we'll actually have a real discussion on the issues.
02:00:42.000We do that all the time with libertarians and conservatives, but it's so hard to find liberals.
02:00:54.000I interact with them a lot on Twitter, and... Getting banned fixed them.
02:00:59.000Like, it helped them understand, I should say.
02:01:01.000Saying fixed them is rude, I apologize for that.
02:01:05.000I think that they understood, finally, when they were wrongly banned, what was going on, and then came out of it like, maybe we should have paid attention a little bit because that was an unjust banning.
02:01:17.000And now, I disagree with them a lot in their positions, but it genuinely seems like they'll actually engage with you in an honest way.
02:01:23.000So I believe that the beginning of everyone's journey to actual real knowledge politically is being able to criticize your own side.
02:01:31.000That's how you can tell if you are talking with a cult member or somebody who's actually a rational human being who's on their way to namaste, right?
02:01:39.000If you're able to criticize your own side, you should listen to the Johnson household.
02:01:43.000Kate and I are doing nothing but talking S on Republicans.
02:01:47.000I hate Republicans so much more than Democrats, because Democrats at least have the goodness and kindness in their hearts to stab me in the face.
02:01:56.000They tell me exactly where they're going to stab me and how they're going to do it.
02:02:01.000And so I am so much angrier at Republicans than Democrats on a daily basis.
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