On this week's episode of TimCast, John Dolan and co-host Lauren Southern are joined by special guest John Dutrois to talk about the latest in the Jordan Neely case, the Trump rape deposition, and more.
00:00:45.000The big story right now that everyone's talking about this week is the Jordan Neely story.
00:00:49.000This is the homeless guy who was attacking people.
00:00:51.000There's new evidence has come out of his past behaviors.
00:00:55.000And once again, the left is doubling down on the grand jury should indict the man who was defending himself and others from this violent individual.
00:01:07.000And there was a funnier story that I thought maybe we should lead with.
00:01:10.000Donald Trump's rape trial deposition has been released and to a certain extent and there's a clip where he roasts the opposition lawyer saying like what he says something like you you wouldn't be good enough for me quite frankly and it's just it's really funny that he's being deposed and he tells the female lawyer that she's not good enough to for him to like want to sleep with i just think that's kind of funny so it's friday we're chilling we're going to talk about what's going on with this uh the politics stuff I think there is going to be some conversation about the whole thing last night, because we've been talking about it all day and basically everybody else is.
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00:02:44.000Because joining us today to talk about this and so much more is Lauren Southern.
00:02:55.000Great timing with Biden repeatedly tweeting about how we need to ban assault rifles, because we've been going all across the states from Baltimore to Texas to, unfortunately, Berkeley, interviewing people, night crawling and figuring out what's been going on with the gun control stuff here.
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00:04:43.000It's not like former guests have been thrown back.
00:04:45.000Tim, I went over there and there were these insanely expensive bottles and Tim said, you just only take the really cheap stuff, Seamus, because, you know, we don't value you here.
00:04:53.000Seamus tried drinking the cheap stuff, and I was like, Seamus, we got a 25-year scotch ready.
00:06:26.000Where the moon is falling to Earth and it turns out the whole moon is a space station that created Earth and ancient aliens, humans actually built it.
00:06:33.000I think it's the result of a planet colliding with Earth a long time ago and coming out the other end as a ball of magma that just cooled down over time.
00:06:40.000That's why it's held magnetically just between us and the sun, creating a perfect eclipse.
00:06:44.000Gravitational, but that is the perfect introduction for Ian, so this is... Gravity's magnetism.
00:06:48.000Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.
00:06:51.000It's funny when people are like, Tim's show is weird because he has, like, Seamus and Ian on.
00:07:06.000So the big news that's been happening all week that the left seems to be latching onto, and is a really good example of anarcho-tyranny, is this dude Jordan Neely, who died after he was choked and he was subdued and then choked on a train.
00:07:18.000And we got this new story from the New York Post.
00:07:20.000911 flooded with calls, including reports of a gun.
00:07:23.000Well, Jordan Neely was fatally choked on train.
00:07:26.000They say a total of five emergency calls were made over a four-minute span just before 2.30 p.m.
00:07:30.000Monday, when now-identified 24-year-old Daniel Penny held Neely in a chokehold on the floor of the northbound F train.
00:07:37.000The first call came in at 2.26, was reporting a physical fight on the subway, followed by another one minute later, someone reporting on the train threatening riders.
00:07:46.000So it sounds like this guy, Neely, had already attacked people, then was threatening people, because You can't have one call come in and then a call come in after, right?
00:07:58.000So people are saying the original story was that Nealey was threatening people and then he got subdued.
00:08:02.000Sounds like he attacked people, then stopped, went on to threaten people, and then later a third caller said he was armed with a knife or a gun.
00:08:13.000It was unclear whom the call was referring to though, Neely or Penny, so we don't know for sure, but I really don't think they're talking about the three men who subdued this guy.
00:08:23.000Now, what's ended up happening is, I think I have a tweet from AOC.
00:08:27.000She tweets, I have yet to hear a real explanation from any official hesitating to condemn the killing of Jordan Neely about what makes condemning this violence so complicated.
00:08:36.000It's not complicated, there's nothing... I'll tell you this, AOC, let me make it easy for you.
00:10:13.000And none of that's ever condemned, right?
00:10:15.000The fact that we live in a culture that doesn't see this as out of the ordinary but loses its mind when somebody tries to defend themselves is never condemned by any of these political leaders who claim to care so much about human life.
00:10:55.000That's quite literally what Lex Luthor represented.
00:10:58.000He was the perfect villain for Superman because he didn't have superpowers.
00:11:00.000He controlled society through corporations and wealth and means.
00:11:05.000AOC is certainly not extremely wealthy, but she uses her influence to defend the criminals and condemn the victims.
00:11:13.000She lied about January 6th, and she's trying to condemn innocent people now.
00:11:16.000Politicians need to be forced to take the subway every day if they have an opinion like that, if they think that he was the victim in this situation.
00:11:23.000Obviously, I think no one should have been put in this situation.
00:11:25.000Everyone was the victim of an extremely broken system.
00:11:28.000Yeah, but in the moment, the man who is threatening people is the perpetrator.
00:11:34.000I don't care if you're like, but he's mentally ill.
00:11:45.000There needs to be institutions for these people.
00:11:46.000We need to have real, frank conversations about what has to be done about the decline of mental health in the United States that aren't just, let's say, nice platitudes and throw money at a system that isn't going to actually do anything.
00:11:56.000And especially when you have political leaders like AOC who want for there to be national mass public transit from one side of the nation to the other with these massive railways, and they're not even doing anything to ensure that the mass transit in their own cities are safe for people, or is safe for people.
00:12:13.000It's like, okay, now you want this to be the only option people have on a national scale?
00:12:17.000You wanna start to slowly do away with highways and ensure that the only way people can get across the country is by riding these railways?
00:12:23.000When the railways in your city are EXTREMELY dangerous and you're not doing anything to make them safe?
00:12:28.000I think one thing that could be done is that we could do some sort of prison reform where we start putting webcams in prisons for inmates that are supervised and allow them to communicate with therapists and family.
00:12:41.000So we really do turn it into a sort of, I don't know, a place where people can actually become better, as opposed to just retribution and vengeance.
00:12:50.000We don't want people to suffer in prison, we want them to become better humans.
00:13:13.000Yeah, they were talking about neural net, I think early on when they were talking about, Elon was talking about neural net, that you could dampen emotional receptors with it, I think.
00:13:22.000I think that they were actually talking about that, the scientist working on it.
00:13:25.000We just put like the neural link thing on them, and then if they ever are about to commit a crime, it just slows down their motor functions until they stop.
00:13:32.000And then the opportunity stops, and then they can only resume if they, in their mind, But then the thing is, so you'll have some dude who wants to go out and commit crimes and he'll start to slow down and people go, well help that man!
00:14:28.000But it turns out he was on bail, like, that week.
00:14:31.000He had just gotten out of jail for serial assault, had grabbed four other women in the shops that morning.
00:14:37.000None of them wanted to come to court, but I was willing to.
00:14:39.000I was like, yeah, I'll put forward a statement and take the CCTV footage and everything.
00:14:43.000But it's like wild to me that he knows Mere days after getting out of jail, on bail, he's like, let's go get back on the streets grabbing ladies!
00:14:55.000And especially because, look, this is another thing that often goes unacknowledged, but sex criminals have one of the highest rates of recidivism, if not the highest rate.
00:15:04.000So you can't just let them out on bail.
00:15:06.000Yeah, we gotta put the Neuralink thing in them.
00:15:30.000And I don't blame them because people are- Dude, there was this one where the guy, did you see the one where the guy got shot on camera?
00:15:38.000Don't you guys remember the Simpsons when Mr. Burns got shot by Maggie?
00:15:42.000He explains that like after he got shot he found only lollygaggers and it's like Jimbo going like whoa just like pointing at him as he's like dying That's right.
00:16:06.000First of all, there were a lot of women there, so they don't want to go up against a man unless they have guns, and no one has guns outside of America.
00:16:15.000And then there's also the fact that, yeah, if you're a man and you actually win that fight and you do the heroic thing you're taught to do as a child, you save the woman in distress, whatever, goodbye life.
00:16:29.000They're not going to let you out of prison.
00:16:30.000They're going to throw the book at you.
00:16:32.000So, and even if you didn't actually do anything, that rises to the level of a crime.
00:16:36.000So here's a great story that many people in the audience may unfortunately not have heard of.
00:16:41.000Mark Hauk, over a year ago, was protesting outside of an abortion clinic.
00:16:45.000And he was just there praying with his son.
00:16:47.000And every time he went there and prayed, there was an older man who would shout obscenities and disgusting things at his son.
00:16:52.000And so finally, one day, this old man comes over to him and starts approaching his son To assault him, and Mark Hauk pushes the old man away.
00:17:00.000The Soros-funded prosecutor in that area said, there's nothing to charge this man with.
00:17:06.000There's literally nothing to charge this man with, there's no case here.
00:17:09.000But a year later, the FBI and DOJ, the DOJ decides to charge him, the FBI raids his house, and they try to get him convicted with a penalty that would result in him going to prison for 11 years.
00:17:25.000Yeah, they were saying it was a violation of the FACE Act.
00:17:27.000And again, the Soros-funded prosecutor in his area a year earlier said there was no case, there was nothing to follow, but because he has the wrong political values, because he was protesting abortion, we should lock him up and throw away the key.
00:17:39.000We have mercy for people who are violent criminals and let them back out onto the street to harm everybody else.
00:17:46.000Grand jury could get subway chokehold death of Jordan Neely case next week.
00:17:50.000So they're actually, a law enforcement source from the investigation tells ABC News the probe into the subway chokehold death is continuing.
00:17:57.000The case is likely to go to a grand jury next week.
00:18:00.000I will say this too, I believe the man's name is Daniel Penny.
00:18:04.000You are going to go to prison for a very, very long time.
00:18:12.000The entire conversation that we've been having is that Kyle Rittenhouse, for instance, would be in prison for the rest of his life if it was true that the people he shot in self-defense were black.
00:18:26.000What we're likely going to see, like with the Ahmaud Arbery case, This man, I think his name is Daniel Penny, is likely going
00:19:08.000Here's an interesting thing we discovered, actually, while filming Infringed, is a lot of people, especially on the progressive side of things, will look at these lower-level crimes, like the mental illness assaults on the subway.
00:19:18.000They'll be like, oh, it was just like a small thing, this and that.
00:19:20.000Or in Baltimore, when we were filming, oh, they have possession of an illegal weapon.
00:19:25.000Well, they didn't kill anyone, they didn't rob anything, so we're just not gonna... the progressive DAs would just be like, whatever, we're not even gonna Deal with these cases.
00:20:12.000Because it's not only the case, as you acknowledge, that people who commit these lower-level crimes are in some sense testing the water and seeing what they can get away with even just subconsciously, but it's also the case that if you know people are getting the book thrown at them for misdemeanors, you're going to think twice about a felony.
00:20:26.000You're going to think twice about committing a felony.
00:20:29.000I have mixed feelings about just going hard at people for Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr.
00:20:47.000Yeah, I think it's wasting time, it's wasting money, there's so much real crime going on in this country that could be using up the courts.
00:20:56.000But real quick, what we're seeing is that they're legalizing drug use, they're legalizing the right to set up homeless camps in public spaces, and then they're criminalizing self-defense.
00:21:11.000When it comes to a federal war on drugs, I oppose it.
00:21:13.000I don't think there's anything wrong with a particular state saying we want to ban this drug or that drug.
00:21:17.000However, I don't think it's wise as a nation to have this bizarre two-faced halfway point where we say this drug is illegal or X, Y, and Z is illegal, but it's not that serious a crime.
00:21:30.000You're not really going to get into that much trouble.
00:21:32.000If something is a crime, it should really be a crime.
00:21:34.000And that does mean we need to think twice about what laws we have, what we're willing to ban or make illegal.
00:21:39.000But once something's not legal, you really should get in serious trouble for breaking the law.
00:22:50.000This is a video from DC Drainer where he says it's a video of Jordan Neely going viral showing him violently assaulting a man using homophobic slurs, the f-word.
00:22:59.000I've not confirmed this so I don't know that it's true, but it does look like it's him.
00:23:03.000Like in the video, there's a video of a guy, looks just like Neely, he's doing Michael Jackson stuff, it looks like all the other videos.
00:23:08.000So I believe it's probably correct that it is him, but I want to make sure I have that caveat because You know, take it with a grain of salt.
00:24:00.000So, if a person behaves violently in an insane way, in a reckless way, or just in a flat-out immoral way, their entire philosophy and the entire philosophy of the left is the only reason that person behaved that way is because of certain systemic structures that push them in that direction.
00:24:15.000And so, they're not the criminal, you are, for not supporting left-wing policy.
00:24:21.000Now that I understand, because that is an argument I've seen being made by people in that camp, if that's what's happening, is that society failed this guy.
00:24:30.000Flat out, he should have been either put in an institution of some sort or put in jail after his 44th crime, after maybe it's stealing the seven-year-old.
00:24:38.000It seemed like he wanted to go back to jail, right?
00:24:41.000You know, he probably wants to get fed three times a day, and if you're in jail, that's what you get, right?
00:24:47.000So, because I saw something that, I saw a tweet, you know, I don't know who said it, but, you know, he was saying something like, you know, I'll go back to jail or I want to go back to jail.
00:24:56.000And it's like, well, if there was an asylum for somebody like this, you know, he'd be taken care of, he'd be off the streets.
00:25:38.000This was also a product of the Foucaultian deinstitutionalization movement, this idea on the left that mental illness is for the most part a social construct and we need to be more understanding.
00:25:47.000And it's true that in many mental health facilities people were mistreated and there was a serious conversation that needed to be had there.
00:25:52.000However, in the 1950s there were 500,000 people committed to mental institutions across the U.S.
00:25:57.000and then by the mid-80s that falls to 100,000.
00:25:59.000Is that after Reagan let people out or before?
00:26:02.000I think I'm not sure at which point the vast majority of the decrease in those numbers occurred, but I do know that between the 1950s and the 1980s, you just have a massive, I would say, decrease in the number of people in mental health facilities across the country.
00:26:18.000And part of that is a result of the reclassification of what it requires to get somebody committed.
00:26:22.000So it used to be you have to be proven to be unable to take care of yourself, and then they changed that standard to you have to have been proven to be a threat to yourself or others.
00:26:33.000Now, often when someone proves that they're a threat to themselves or others, it's too late.
00:26:38.000So I don't know if the standard should be they can't take care of themselves as it used to be, but I think the standard we have now clearly isn't working.
00:26:45.000Yeah, there's so many Reagan facts I learned while doing the Infringe stuff.
00:26:49.000He like right when he got an offer. Is that true?
00:26:51.000The same thing in California, I think as well. He signed a bill. I think the Lantris-Peterson-Short Act or something.
00:28:32.000And then, like, what, the Deep State went to him and was like, you're gonna have him as your... The assassination attempt, and then after that... He made him his VP?
00:28:38.000Yeah, I mean, I don't know if that's true, but I've heard that story as well.
00:28:40.000Yeah, so this Reagan guy, I mean, was he one of those guys who's like going in with all the righteousness, and then as soon as he gets in there, like, here's your talking, here's your playbook, by the way, and he's like, uh, I don't think so, then bang bang, and then he's like, okay, I'll play ball?
00:28:52.000Well, this is what's crazy, is even when he wasn't, because, you know, I was getting in a debate with my dad about this, love you dad, and we were talking about Reagan and gun control, and he's like, oh, you know, he was more Democrat early on, he probably changed his mind, and I'm like, yeah, you know, he did a lot of good things in government, but actually, even when he was out of office, he wrote into wrote to lawmakers supporting the assault weapons ban that Biden passed saying, I support this, put this through.
00:29:21.000Firstly, Reagan said something, it's quite a famous quote, and this is something that many people who are considered centrists or, you know, 2010 era liberals say today.
00:29:31.000What Reagan said was, I am considered conservative just for holding to the liberal principles that I had 20 years ago.
00:33:00.000If they went the route I explained in my vision, they would be worth still billions of dollars.
00:33:06.000I told them to go the route that we are going here.
00:33:09.000Yeah, maybe they would be worth like 900 million or 1.3 billion, like a quarter of what they ended up at what they were at one point, but they'd still be around.
00:33:18.000I don't believe any of what you guys are saying.
00:33:50.000The same thing happened with Fusion and it was hilarious.
00:33:53.000When I went to Fusion, which is ABC News Univision, they said we want to be nice Vice.
00:33:58.000We want to be young and edgy, but we don't want to do the weird stuff where they like crap in jugs and like throw it in the air or something like that.
00:34:03.000Because Vice did like weird stuff like that.
00:35:09.000But to have been a billionaire, like their media reporting, you're worth 2 billion or whatever, and now it's just like, you know...
00:35:15.000I don't think they're complete idiots for marketing to the woke crowd.
00:35:19.000Like, I do think there is a large... I'm not on some copium where I think the majority of the population are conservatives.
00:35:24.000I'm from Canada, so I'm like, okay, there are actually a lot of woke people out there, but it's just very hard to sell wokeness through a corporation.
00:35:34.000Through these, like... They can see the... Even the very silly kind of brainwashed people, they're like, okay, This is clickbait.
00:35:43.000This is a corporation that makes millions of dollars telling me about how we need to support trans impoverished individuals doing ketamine.
00:35:55.000There is a craving in general for more genuine, I think that's why live streaming has become a bigger thing in general, even the left-wing live streamers on Twitch and stuff.
00:36:05.000People are just getting real tired of the highly curated actual Full-on propaganda.
00:36:13.000It's just like, the internet is just full-on MKUltra.
00:36:59.000If you got a corporation and there are people breaking the law within it, and it's widespread, and the whole company does it, shut it down.
00:37:48.000It's like Blackwater, they just reappear as something new every other year.
00:37:51.000I'm just saying, like, the idea that you could go to, say, a major pharmaceutical, like, let's say there's a major pharmaceutical that was accused of fraud and then found to be liable for that fraud and were fined billions.
00:38:04.000I can't think of any pharmaceutical companies like that.
00:39:00.000You have to list all of your failed... It's sort of like if you buy a pack of cigarettes, it has like a limp dick on it or something, right?
00:39:13.000You know what I think would actually be even better than that?
00:39:16.000For political campaigns, at the end of a political ad, in the same way that pharmaceutical ads have to list side effects, they have to list every scandal that politician is involved in, and like every policy failure that they're guilty of.
00:40:14.000If you really think she's Lex Luthor or has that kind of power to become Lex Luthor, we should engage in conversation now and get ahead of this, rather than just wait for some horrible populist uprising where we use the mob to dictate law and order.
00:40:28.000I think we need to psychologically manipulate her by whenever she does anything really good, the whole right wing need to just send her super loving messages constantly and just be like, keep going queen, keep going.
00:40:39.000And then she'll slowly, like, psychologically be like, whoa, I'm getting a lot of support for this and just move further and further right until I've fixed her.
00:40:46.000And then everyone's going to keep criticizing her from the right when she does something bad and then it's just going to be psychological abuse where it's going to be, like, very brutal, but both ways it's going to be, like, insanely high praise and then really brutal criticism.
00:42:14.000Kevin Nealon, oh man, Kevin Nealon's new, when he did the news, it was so dead.
00:42:20.000Norm Macdonald was in there slaying it.
00:42:22.000Oh yeah, no, look, look, like I said, I will not deny that there were talented people there, and I'm not even necessarily saying they weren't ever great, I'm just saying I wonder how great they were because I wasn't watching it back then and the only footage I see from it is likely the best stuff.
00:44:12.000Yeah, I'm like, nah, that's not my thing.
00:44:15.000The alcohol, I know it's bad, but the aspartame freaks me out.
00:44:17.000So I don't know if you guys know about this but so I've got a friend who's from India and he tells me that with AOC there's like a power behind the throne kind of a figure who's from India as well and I forget his name now but you know apparently this guy you know he found her in like a bar you know because she was a bartender and You know, because he was looking for somebody to be like the figurehead of, you know, this, you know, new popular politician, you know, for the left, and basically developed her into what she is today and all this stuff.
00:44:53.000So I don't know if this is, you know, I've just never heard it before.
00:44:57.000He sent me an article about it, but I can't find it now.
00:44:59.000I just thought if maybe one of you guys knew about this.
00:45:02.000I'm sure it's less nefarious than it sounds.
00:45:04.000I think she's just a bad person, you know.
00:45:06.000Yeah, but it's like she's not Lex Luthor intelligent.
00:45:32.000He kills a protester, and then all of the MAGA people cheer for it, and I'm kind of like, nah.
00:45:38.000The only problem is it does have a left-wing bias, but I think it could, it just applies to politics in general as well as the left, but it's obviously got this, like, hyperbole.
00:45:48.000Dude, I'm pretty sure Stormfront was intended to be Laura Loomer.
00:45:54.000Stormfront is a woman who is like an actual Nazi who's immortal or something like that, and then she's pretending to not be a Nazi but is secretly a Nazi, and I'm like, I think they're trying to directly, like, it's a left-wing bias fantasy world where they're drawing correlations between reality but from a weird left-wing view.
00:46:17.000Like, Homelander is Superman, but he's also Donald Trump.
00:46:58.000He was a real, he probably still exists, or maybe not considering what's going on in Seattle, but he was the real life vigilante superhero who would dress up in an outfit.
00:47:07.000He had a group with him too, like a superhero group.
00:47:09.000And then when the Antifa riots started, he was with the cops, so they were like, you're a fascist because you're helping police.
00:48:18.000It's sci-fi and not, you know, superhero, but okay.
00:48:21.000Well, I'll give him a pass on that one.
00:48:23.000He's doing something, you know what I mean?
00:48:25.000In the realm of psychology, because, like, we don't actually have people that go out and punch dudes and drag them around, but, like, psychological Batman?
00:48:40.000When Norm Macdonald did that Bill Clinton, remember he was on The View, and he was saying that Clinton's killed somebody, and they were like, stop saying that, and he was like, wow, I thought this was common knowledge.
00:48:51.000Question, Seamus, who's your favorite superhero?
00:50:25.000That's kind of wild that like you'd think when a superhero becomes bad, they do some super villain thing.
00:50:29.000That's the thing that people... Can you imagine if Batman broke bad, but instead of like trying to take over Gotham, he's like, Alright, I got some meth for ya.
00:51:23.000Yeah, but he doesn't have the power to do it.
00:51:24.000Flash can do it because he has speed force and all that, and speed force is its own thing that makes no sense, but, like, it's speed force.
00:51:30.000Flash can also kidnap indigenous women really quickly.
00:53:58.000It doesn't really follow, it doesn't follow logic, basically, because it's like, well, you know, I should read it now.
00:54:11.000But the other line, or the other view, is called the angel view, which is that the sons of God, which is in Hebrew, the B'nai Ha'Elohim, sons of God, That term is used in the Old Testament to basically describe a direct creation by God.
00:54:52.000So, when it says in Genesis 6, the sons of God, it's most likely it talks about angels.
00:55:01.000So they came down, and in the book of Enoch, which is not in the Bible, it basically says that much more clearly, which is also like a really old book, right?
00:57:05.000I found a very, this could be helpful, I found a very interesting little bit here on Catholic Answers from Tom Nash and he just wrote a pretty lengthy thing on this but one part I want to zone in on because he's referencing the church fathers is that he writes, the early church fathers generally understood the sons of God to be the offspring of Seth, the righteous son of Adam, whereas daughters of men are understood to be the offspring of Cain, the immoral son of Adam, thus fallen ones could be understood as the fruit of succumbing to the corrupt Canaanite culture.
00:57:32.000Which is an interesting interpretation.
00:57:34.000I haven't looked at it myself, but I've heard that a lot of early church fathers actually believed the angel view, so I don't know when the Seth thing came into play, but... Well yeah, and like I said, the Nephilim thing has always been...
00:57:48.000It's always been interesting every time it's come up.
00:57:49.000I haven't done a deep dive into it, and part of it is there is no official Catholic stance on it.
00:57:58.000Part of why it's so tantalizing is because so little is written about it, right?
00:58:01.000It just comes up there for a moment in the Bible and then it's not talked about again later, so people are naturally going to read things into that and try to extrapolate.
00:58:07.000I think it's an important issue because Why was the flood sent, right?
00:58:13.000It says explicitly because of man's violence on the earth and that sort of thing, right?
00:58:46.000And then he basically tells, he tells a serpent, That I'm going to put war between you and the woman seed, the seed of the woman, which is a very odd phrase because a woman doesn't have seed, right?
00:58:59.000That's a prophecy of Jesus Christ, the seed of the woman, virgin birth, right?
00:59:04.000I'm going to put a war between you two.
00:59:07.000So right away, there's already like, if you're Satan, you know, okay, his plan is to have,
00:59:15.000is to basically bring about a human redeemer, right?
00:59:24.000So this is the incarnation of Jesus Christ in the flesh to be the offering for, you know, on the sin of man.
01:00:50.000Angels are not human beings though, right?
01:00:51.000So I'm saying there aren't specific kinds of human beings of whom we could say they don't have the right genetic combination in order to be saved.
01:01:00.000But also, there are other elements here that are important.
01:01:04.000Well, no, angels don't have DNA because they're not physical beings.
01:01:08.000And also, there are ancient Jewish commentaries that offer up reasons for why the flood happened, one of which being that it's because men were entering into contracts with other men.
01:01:17.000I don't think it's the main reason, but I think it's part of it.
01:01:41.000Okay, but they're men, but they're also angels.
01:01:43.000Well, but that doesn't mean they literally have physical form, it means they're appearing in such a way so that they can communicate with the human beings in that area.
01:01:50.000Probably hyper-dimensionality, you know, they can probably materialize.
01:01:54.000Might have light, like flying machines with light on them.
01:01:57.000Maybe one way to explain it would be like, imagine if, on this table, there's like little tiny houses and stuff, and we are looking down at these little tiny people, and then you put your hand down and walk with your hand like it's a person.
01:02:24.000There are interesting descriptions, and I don't disagree with you, but that doesn't help.
01:02:27.000Now let's do the hand puppet thing, where it's like, we're looking down on these little creatures, and we stick our hand in there and like, picture them.
01:02:34.000Oh yeah, like shining a spotlight on the ground and moving it around?
01:02:36.000If you're in a hot air balloon with a spotlight?
01:04:24.000So, Loki and Bartleby are fallen angels, and then there's a centennial at a church, and they say that all those who walk through the gates during the centennial will have their sins forgiven.
01:04:34.000And then Bartleby's like, this is how we get into heaven, and Loki's like, what?
01:04:40.000Church doesn't mean we can, and he was like, what you hold true on earth, I will hold true in heaven.
01:04:45.000We will be forgiven and we can go home.
01:05:00.000But God is, obviously, outside of spaces, outside of time.
01:05:04.000Through the Incarnation, God did become man.
01:05:07.000But my understanding and part of the Catholic understanding of what's different between human and angels and part of why that redemption doesn't apply is firstly, of course, God behaves in mysterious ways.
01:05:15.000We can't always explain or understand why he would choose for his redemption to be efficacious.
01:05:20.000Not for the angels, but one explanation I've heard that I think is pretty compelling is because angels have the capability of acting with will in a way that's not as pronounced in human beings because we're less
01:05:33.000intelligent than they are so because of their superior intellect
01:05:36.000they're more capable and because they don't have physical bodies and aren't in
01:05:40.000time the exact same way we are their choice is
01:05:45.000permanent whenever they make one so it's not just that they can't be forgiven
01:05:48.000it's that they can't repent. So God does not expect much of us. Well they can't repent.
01:05:51.000Well, God, I think there's an argument to be made that he respects less of us than he, or expects less of us in a certain sense because of our corporeal form and limitations than he would expect of angels.
01:06:00.000Because we are different beings and angels have a far superior intellect.
01:06:03.000We were made in the image of God and angels were not.
01:06:47.000So, you know, based on what you're saying there, too, so with Adam, he knew exactly what he was doing when, you know, he basically—so, he loved his wife so much that when she ate of the fruit and fell into sin, that he did not want to lose her.
01:07:10.000He did not want to lose her and so he also willingly partook of the fruit and willingly disobeyed to be with his wife because he loved her so much.
01:07:19.000That's a reflection of Jesus Christ and the church.
01:07:24.000Because he willingly died as well so he could be with his church.
01:07:32.000Because I agree with part of that and disagree with the other part of it.
01:07:34.000It's definitely been a part of ancient commentary, and there's a theological basis for saying one of the reasons Adam did choose to eat of the fruit was because he did not want to be separated from his wife.
01:07:45.000However, I know that the Church and myself don't understand that to mean that that was a good thing.
01:07:51.000And that that was an act of love because by committing that, whereas Christ's death for us was an act of love and was a good thing.
01:08:57.000But again, you know, it's like, You know, the lamb was slain before the foundation of the world, so God knew this would happen at the same time.
01:09:05.000So it's like, it's one of those things where I'm like, yeah, I'm not sure.
01:09:36.000You were literally like, this is going to become a Bible study.
01:09:40.000The metaphor I can think of is like if my wife was smoking weed and I'm like, man, when you get high, I can't get through to you like this.
01:09:48.000Like that's like Adam eating the fruit to be with his woman.
01:09:51.000Maybe it was just a big old simp, you know?
01:09:53.000Well, this is one of the things, and different theologians have described this differently, but basically, Adam and Eve, they committed different sins.
01:10:02.000Father Ripper talks about this, and I believe the way he broke it down was, I think, Adam committing seven sins and Eve committing five, and I can't remember exactly how he explained them, but one of the sins of Adam was basically what we would colloquially refer to as being a simp.
01:10:14.000He chose the woman over God, and in doing so, he wasn't actually choosing what was good It's good for her, right?
01:10:20.000Because you can't choose the best thing for another person unless you're choosing what God wants you to choose.
01:10:26.000I think there's something sinful in itself of going back in time and being like, all women are responsible or all men are responsible for this.
01:10:32.000Everyone's trying to abdicate their own responsibility for original sin and sin in general.
01:10:37.000You had a great tweet the other day that was like, stop purity testing others and start purity testing yourself.
01:11:00.000You could ask what's more important, adhering to God's will or being with your wife?
01:11:06.000But actually, God is like, I gave you all, like, imagine, you know, you hook up a guy and his wife with a place to live and food, and they're in need, and you're like, I got you this place, you can crash at my place, there's beers in the fridge, there's pizzas, just don't eat my apples, dude, like, I really, I just don't want them.
01:11:39.000Yeah, well, also, I mean, God told them not to do this.
01:11:41.000One thing that's fascinating, I know that, uh, and I'm blanking on his name, but there's an old, um, Orthodox theologian who said that God may have allowed them to eat from that tree later, but didn't think that they were ready.
01:11:54.000I don't know if that's the official position of the church, I just find that to be an interesting commentary from an Orthodox theologian.
01:11:59.000I'm just like, simply put, if someone is letting you stay at their place and it's like everything's taken care of.
01:12:04.000Well, God told them not to, so of course they shouldn't do that.
01:12:20.000So many people treat it like a cruelty, like he was trying to prevent them from some sort of knowledge, but I almost see it the way we treat children.
01:12:27.000Like, I don't want you to have to struggle with the same things I struggle with.
01:12:31.000I want you to remain in your magic for as long as possible as a child.
01:12:35.000I want to protect that world that you're in."
01:12:37.000And God telling them, like, don't eat of this.
01:12:39.000It's almost like, I know those apples.
01:12:41.000I have a poison in them that's going to begin to corrupt your mind, and I don't want that for you.
01:12:50.000And she's like, you know what, I'm going to eat that.
01:12:51.000Because I think the fruit is the psilocybin mushroom or the amanita muscaria.
01:12:56.000They talk about the tree of life and the tree of knowledge of good and evil, I think is what... The two different trees were the mushrooms that grew that had the chemicals that basically gave these animals consciousness.
01:13:49.000One of the reasons I would disagree with that kind of interpretation is because it suggests that man was lower than he is now before he committed the original sin.
01:13:58.000And now he's risen to a higher level of consciousness.
01:14:46.000Oh, it could have literally just been like a little fruit that didn't matter at all.
01:14:49.000And what's funny, though, is once they took of that fruit and disobeyed and committed sin, you know, God then banished them out of Eden and then put an angel with a flaming sword To basically block them from getting to the tree of life, right?
01:15:12.000Which is interesting because it's like, why did he not do that with the first tree, right?
01:15:21.000And once they disobeyed and fell into sin, if they then took of that life tree, That may have like, you know, like sealed their fate forever.
01:16:05.000Well, because they could have proven that they were good and virtuous simply by not eating it because they would have obeyed God, but there is precedent in the Catholic tradition.
01:16:12.000There's precedent in the Catholic tradition for referring to the happy fault, right?
01:16:16.000So obviously, I mean, this original sin, every horrible thing that has ever happened in the world happened because of this sin.
01:16:24.000Every genocide, every act of rape or child sexual exploitation, everything, every horrible thing that ever happened happened because of this original sin.
01:16:39.000It's the fault of all of us, or it's the fault of Adam and Eve, but there's an additional element here which is that all being true, Christ was able to show us this beautiful love and God was able to show us this beautiful love As a result of that original sin being committed, he's coming to save us.
01:16:58.000And that's why it is sometimes referred to as a happy fault.
01:17:16.000There are many other things that There are shows where it's just like you watch an episode then it's like three months later and something happens and there's stuff that happens in between.
01:17:24.000What was like the daily life of Jesus?
01:17:26.000Yeah, I think he went to India and learned Reiki and studied Hinduism and stuff.
01:17:30.000I don't know, I'm saying like for you Seamus, who you are a faithful and a believer, what is written, what is known about like a regular day?
01:17:39.000I think that there's so In terms of Christ's daily life, in part, you can just sort of look to historic context, how people lived in that part of the world.
01:17:48.000I think there's good indication that he woke up early.
01:17:52.000There's moments in scripture where he's... Oh man, I'm trying to remember the exact passage, and I can pull it up in a little bit.
01:17:59.000Well yeah, I mean, so the apostles were fishermen, and we actually get the idea that they weren't very good at it either, because they're not really catching fish, and then Christ helps them to.
01:18:10.000So, you just look at daily life in that region and probably something like that.
01:18:16.000I mean, he was telling people that he was the son of God and the response was, well, is this not Joseph the carpenter's son?
01:18:23.000And so it's clear that it was a more ordinary life in some sense.
01:18:26.000I think the most incredible things that we do in our life are done in the most quote-unquote insignificant moments to what we would perceive as significant or interesting.
01:18:37.000It's the day-to-day little conversations you have, it's the boring in-betweens, and yes, they highlighted the interesting stuff in the Bible, but I think it's like when life slows down and you have meaningful conversations with people that have nothing to do with media, tweets, none of that, those are the real meaningful moments.
01:19:03.000Getting up earlier, and this is something I've always struggled with, especially someone running a business and then having this crazy upload schedule and having a bunch of random stuff thrown at me that I don't expect.
01:19:11.000It has been hard to get a good consistent sleep schedule, but whenever I'm able to get up in the morning, I always have just a far better day.
01:19:18.000I saw a meme video of this girl, she's like, I know I'm gonna sound horrible, I really hate to tell you this all, but waking up at 5am, going to the gym, eating a healthy smoothie, it actually does make you happier.
01:19:30.000I know I sound awful, I know I'm disgusting, but it is better!
01:19:33.000I did it for about one month and it was life-changing, and then I just fell back into sleep.
01:19:39.000I know exactly what you mean, but then you remember and you go, that was so good for me.
01:20:23.000Yes, people like that smoking until 3am, listening to sad music that's emotional.
01:20:29.000People actually get addicted to that feeling.
01:20:31.000And the problem is, when you can feel it in a vacuum, as like a moment in time that's Processing an important emotion, it's a good thing, but when there's people that get addicted to that constantly and all they listen to is the depressing music, all they do is enter that world.
01:20:45.000I've noticed this with algorithms on the computer.
01:20:48.000If I have an algorithm that is constantly Politics talking about the end of the world or, you know, gender.
01:20:55.000I've deliberately gone out and I've followed a bunch of feminist accounts to balance out all of the woman hatred on my timeline.
01:21:01.000I want man hatred so that I can look at it all and see the absurdity of both sides together and be like, wow, this is like, I see this happening on both sides.
01:21:11.000You guys are delusional, blaming each other.
01:21:13.000Your environment, your friends, the people you talk to, They 100% impact you and people who think they can keep a sane, sober mind in an environment that is completely dripping with a bias, they're delusional.
01:21:25.000You are probably in that cult right now and you don't know it.
01:21:30.000I got notified of some drama just now from a couple hours ago.
01:21:36.000There's a viral edit of Jez Jennings' life, and talking about the things that have happened, and I responded to it with, where is Ron DeSantis?
01:21:45.000This is all happening in Florida, question.
01:21:48.000And we know that a lot of it, what's going on with Jez Jennings as a trans child, did not happen in Florida, but they do live in South Florida now, and have even expressed, I believe, they've talked about their fears about what's going on in Florida.
01:22:00.000And I got a response from Christina Pasha and from Jeremy Uh, Redfern.
01:22:06.000And these are both, this is, Jeremy is the Deputy Press Secretary for DeSantis, and Christina is the, um, uh, personal, uh, she's still the Press Secretary, I believe.
01:22:16.000And so, uh, she said, uh, what did she say?
01:22:19.000I regret to inform you that Jazz is 22 and the Governor doesn't have a time machine.
01:22:23.000I'm not sure which state this picture just happened in, but if it was in Florida, Jazz was a minor before DeSantis was Governor.
01:22:29.000And I just kind of feel like they're either completely ignorant over what we've talked about in the show and what's being addressed, Jeremy said, but how is it supposed to get outrage clicks?
01:22:36.000Pretty sure that there are videos showing that Jazz is not willing to take a medical device and place it into a wound to separate it, and has been severely depressed, and the mother's saying it's your fault, and the mother's threatening to wring the neck of Jazz Jennings.
01:22:52.000So, if they're currently living in South Florida, and when I say, like, what's going on?
01:23:12.000But that doesn't change the fact that if somebody is being... If the mother goes on TV and says, if Jazz lets the wound close, I will wring her neck.
01:24:19.000You don't have to do anything other than be like, you're not extraditing him, he can choose to go, but I'm not going to let you do it.
01:24:26.000And I was like, okay, but it's fine, because I think Ron's still a really great governor, and he still does speak out, he's doing a really, really good job.
01:24:32.000But like, I think this, the reason they're really mad, I think the reason is press people are like, he doesn't have a time machine, is because they're impotent in the issue.
01:24:41.000They will not go up against a TLC channel celebrity trans kid, despite the fact the mother is on TV saying, if you don't do this, I will do it.
01:24:51.000Like, that's a threat of assault, to insert a medical device into someone who is an adult, who is saying no to it.
01:24:58.000And their response is, Doesn't have a time machine?
01:25:00.000You know what, man, that is just so fucking pathetic.
01:25:03.000Like, the moment the show comes out, there should be a- the DeSantis administration should be like, we're putting our AG or our criminal investigative division, because they're gonna have footage from that show, and it looks like that's probable cause of a threat of force against an individual, you know, who's clearly- like, I'll put it this way, Jazz Jennings not doing the dilation indicates Jazz does not want to, right?
01:25:52.000It's kind of like, I will make you stay alive.
01:25:54.000So it's not really a threat of violence, although it is a kind of a... It is.
01:25:58.000What was already done is obscenely violent.
01:26:02.000But just like, you destroyed this person's body.
01:26:05.000If an adult is taking a choice in and of themselves, and an individual then says, like, if an adult comes to another adult and says, if you do not do this thing, I will do it.
01:26:56.000She said, if Jazz goes to college and that thing seals up, I will wring her neck.
01:26:59.000But was that like a... I can understand that being interpreted both ways, like... It is the combination of the two soundbites that I believe warrants at the very least... Well, I'm not defending the parents, don't get me wrong, but I'm just wondering how the police... But when she said it's a protected speech to say something like that, if you say on Tuesday at 4pm I'm going to wring the person's neck, that becomes an imminent threat of violence.
01:27:19.000But I'm talking about the combination of these two statements.
01:27:22.000The one, I wake Jazz up in the middle of the night and say, if you don't do this, I will.
01:27:26.000You argue, well, it's a medical thing that has to be done.
01:27:29.000But then you add to it her saying, I will wring your neck.
01:27:32.000Yes, we understand threatening to wring someone's neck may be a figure of speech, like, I will be very angry with you.
01:27:38.000But she already said she wakes Jazz up and says, if you don't do this thing, I will do it to you.
01:27:44.000Combine those two things, and now I think a reasonable... Here's what I think.
01:27:49.000I think the Descendants administration is terrified to actually take a strong cultural stance on what appears to be severe, severe abuse stemming over a very long period of time.
01:27:59.000But now this family lives in their jurisdiction and is currently engaged in questionable behaviors that I believe are abuse.
01:28:16.000DeSantis will have no way to deal with the press.
01:28:20.000I think, this shows me, and what my concern is with the DeSantis presidency, is that he will compromise, negotiate, and bend to the press.
01:28:29.000He won't come out and just be like, that's horrible.
01:28:32.000Donald Trump's the kind of guy that if he saw that clip on Tucker, he would immediately go out onto a stage and be like, what is this thing with this woman?
01:29:38.000Like, this stuff's still going on, the show is on the air.
01:29:40.000This person is depressed, morbidly obese, didn't go to college, talks about severe mental health issues, and you have videos of the mother saying very, very awful things.
01:29:48.000I think, like, if there's one thing government would do, it's like...
01:29:53.000If there's a reason for law enforcement to exist, it is to prevent that from happening to a child.
01:30:00.000I know, but no, I understand that they aren't anymore, but I'm saying the fact that that was able to happen in the first place is a tragedy.
01:30:06.000But the age of majority in instances of familial abuse, you don't stop being protected by the law because you're an adult now.
01:30:13.000A coercive relationship where you're being, like, if it was an adult woman, an adult man, and the man said to the woman something about sticking something inside her, and then later said he'd wring her neck, he'd be arrested in two seconds!
01:30:23.000But she would have to be the one that came to the police and presented that.
01:30:58.000And then later says, if she doesn't, I'm going to wring her neck.
01:31:00.000If she doesn't take her insulin, I'm going to... That would result in the cops knocking on the door and saying, ma'am, we'd like to have a word with you.
01:31:07.000Dude, I have seen guys get arrested for so much less.
01:31:11.000There's a video of a woman hitting herself with a hammer and then her husband gets arrested.
01:31:15.000Like, it is remarkably easy for a woman to call the cops and say, my husband threatened me, they show up in two seconds.
01:31:22.000But she's the one who made the report.
01:31:24.000Neighbors can call and say, I'm hearing a fight next door and the man's screaming and they will take the guy out of the house and say, go somewhere else for the night.
01:31:32.000We have a video, we have decades of footage, we have all of these public statements from Jazz that are questionable, and then the mother saying these things on TV, and the DeSantis administration is like, well, we don't have a time machine, so... The best thing I think we can do is have compassion for Jazz, be here for Jazz, and let Jazz make the decision.
01:31:49.000Anyone who has transitioned as a child, I have infinite sympathy for, infinite, because there's no way, like someone in that psychological state, you can, and you can never expect them to come out and say what was done to me was wrong because the amount of weight and like the pillars of salt and sand they're gonna have to undo for their entire vision of the world and their future, you know, that's accepting my future is over, who I am is over, my chance of having the family that I wanted, all of these things is over, That is such an overwhelming ask of someone.
01:32:19.000All you can do is give them sympathy at this point in their life and maybe they can work through that eventually.
01:32:23.000But holy, they have been so set up for failure, it's not even funny.
01:32:28.000It's such an unbelievably difficult and strenuous uphill battle for that person to ever be capable of seeing the truth about what was done to them, the nature of Of who they are, the fact that their identity was taken from them rather than affirmed, the fact that they will never be able to have things that the rest of us just take for granted that we can have.
01:33:01.000I think it's important, like, when we discuss these things, we want to speak very clearly about how absolutely horrible this is, to deter people from doing this, to speak truth, to make clear what's happened, while also allowing people who have had this horror inflicted upon them to know that they need not despair.
01:33:23.000They can still have a good, a very beautiful and wonderful and important part of life has been taken from you, but that does not mean your life doesn't have meaning, and that does not mean you can't have a good life.
01:33:36.000Something beautiful was stolen from you, but that does not mean that you need to despair and that there will not be good things in your life.
01:33:41.000Yeah, there could be hundreds of millions of kids that feel out of their body right now, Jazz, that you're speaking to, that you could guide through life and help them you know, reduce pain. I mean, that's just ease the pain
01:33:55.000and suffering of young people and adults even that are going through it. You're in a position of
01:34:00.000power and really importance right now.
01:34:01.000The response I'm getting from the DeSantis people is just like false arguments, sophistry,
01:34:06.000and deflection. Jazz is an adult and DeSantis has banned gender surgeries so that people won't
01:34:11.000grow up with the same pain and regret.
01:34:20.000Apparently, the answer is right now, if you're in Florida and you have an adult child and you say, if you don't stick this in you, I'll do it, and then later saying publicly, I will wring their neck if they don't, that's totally fine, not questionable in any way.
01:34:50.000So, in fact, there's many circumstances where a person, let's say you're like walking down the street and a guy comes up to you and shoves you and a cop watches it.
01:34:58.000You can say, Officer, I don't want to press charges.
01:35:25.000Cops don't have to read you your rights if they know you committed the crime.
01:35:29.000Can you go and retroactively enforce a law that was passed after the actual... No, and you shouldn't be able to, but I'm not talking about that.
01:35:36.000See, what they're doing right now is they're conflating that Jazz went through these surgeries, therefore I'm insisting they use a law retroactively.
01:35:44.000I'm literally talking about a video that came out of them in Florida and the mother saying, if you don't do this, I will, and if you don't, I'll wring your neck.
01:35:51.000I can tell you, dude, if there's a video of Jazz being like, No, stop!
01:35:55.000And the mom coming at her and putting something inside her body, then she'll have to knock on the door from the authorities.
01:36:01.000So my point is, if I hear fighting next door, and I call the police and say, I hear a man and woman fighting, they will show up and at least knock on the door and say, can we speak to you alone?
01:36:11.000And the cops will separate the man and the woman and say, what's going on?
01:36:14.000Here we have a video of the mother saying, if you don't do... I have woken Jess up in the middle of the night and I have said, I've taken the dilator and lubricated it and said, if you don't stick this in your vagina, And then she goes on.
01:36:23.000I'm not going to repeat what she said.
01:36:24.000And I'm like, that right there should warrant a knock on the door.
01:36:28.000And their response is, well, we don't have a time machine.
01:37:17.000I want to understand the way— Good point.
01:37:21.000And also no one—so, well, there's a couple different important points to make about this.
01:37:27.000So again, while I do not believe that circumcision is at all equivalent to what they're doing to children now with these quote-unquote transitions, I still am very against it.
01:37:40.000The kinds of medical circumcisions that are done today, from what I understand, are very different from the ones that were done in the Bible, too.
01:37:45.000Now, again, the circumcisions that the New Testament makes clear are not required.
01:37:49.000We're supposed to have a circumcision of the heart, but even so, people will start talking about, like, Jewish communities.
01:37:55.000Even then, that's not the kind of circumcision where you remove all of it, from what I understand.
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01:38:58.000Yes, it's a metal card with a drawing on it, and if you cut it out, it makes a component that can be used in a weapon, and they've criminally charged these guys.
01:39:35.000It was cool to talk about, you know, Vastly different.
01:39:38.000There's always a debate because what happens every time a lefty comes on the show is before the show starts they say something that's just absolutely untrue and then there's like nothing that can be done.
01:39:48.000I can't just sit here and be like oh okay that's fine.
01:39:51.000The funny thing is we're talking like dude if we were talking about the banking industry we would have just been agreeing all night.
01:39:55.000So the issue is like, hey, there's a video showing people in Canada being dragged out of their homes during COVID lockdowns.
01:40:03.000It's like, I can't just say like, you're right, it never happened, even though I've seen the videos.
01:40:06.000Like, they just say things that aren't true.
01:40:08.000And then I'm like, okay, well, there are videos, I'll pull them up.
01:40:11.000And then the other issue is like, When it comes to studies, it's all selective.
01:40:16.000So one of the big contentious moments was there are two peer-reviewed studies about desistance being 61 to 98 percent, and he says, I reject those because a meta-analysis of 51 studies says otherwise, but like a meta-analysis is not a peer-reviewed study.
01:40:32.000It is the opinion of researchers who read other opinions.
01:40:35.000There were 55 studies analyzed, 52 or 3 of them had some result.
01:40:40.000No one can lie like someone who can talk about numbers.
01:40:42.000You look at all the studies that came out that were highlighted in the New York Times, Atlantic, everything, talking about how illegal immigrants commit less crime, and then sure enough, you have an analysis done of those studies, and they don't usually register illegal immigrants as such until they're in prison, and then they get their status.
01:40:58.000So when you're using the data based off just arrest, it's like, duh, you're not going to be getting anything.
01:41:11.000Oh yeah, how many people were studied?
01:41:14.000One of the most effective ways to use studies when you work in politics is to know your opponent's studies so you can know exactly why they're nonsense.
01:41:24.000Well, if someone wants to do all that research, all power to them.
01:41:29.000All right, Coldilocks Production says, just correcting you from two days ago, Iron Dome has been tested against both Scud, Mach 5 and 6 ballistic missiles, and low-alt subsonic cruise missiles, and has been successful.
01:41:41.000The rockets fired by Hamas are smaller than drones.
01:41:55.000That's the phrase in comic books when a person has seemingly absurd powers that they say aren't powers.
01:42:04.000So, for instance, Batman can teleport when he's in a bank vault with one exit, and then the guy turns around, and then he turns around, Batman's gone!
01:42:13.000And it's like, he has no... Okay, come on.
01:43:53.000And it's like, they go to an abandoned house, and they like, throw a rock at the window, and this crazy guy looks out, and the cops are like, excuse me, sir, did you sell these boys a gazebo?
01:45:13.000I don't understand what you're saying.
01:45:16.000You think she's allowed to terminate the life of the baby with a doctor, but she can't do anything that would intentionally interminate the life of the baby?
01:45:35.000I thought his response was going to be something like, oh come on, like meth isn't a medically necessary procedure about making the decision of whether or not you're going to have a child.
01:45:44.000It is an abusive drug that causes damage to your body and won't even necessarily kill the child.
01:45:48.000It could just cause serious injury and harm to both you and the child.
01:46:01.000See, this is why you should just have a show where you like quickly run across the table and dress up in a different costume and debate yourself as a leftist.
01:46:07.000It's like playing chess against yourself.
01:46:09.000I can argue their position is better than them.
01:46:12.000Colt Worathe says, Tim, I have been looking into the Nephilim for years.
01:46:15.000Please have on Deer and Sharon Gilbert to cover this topic for you.
01:46:24.000They are not Sethites, and there are threads that run all through the Bible.
01:46:28.000So, one recommendation I can make, too, and I've shouted him out on this show before, but I think Jimmy Akin would be a very interesting guest for any religious discussion, especially about these matters.
01:46:40.000He has a podcast called Jimmy Akin's Mysterious World, where he goes into a bunch of weird conspiracy theories and stuff, but from a Catholic perspective.
01:48:06.000What if it's because we as humans are more than pure machinations, and even if you get something that's identical to us in terms of appearance, we know there's no soul?
01:48:30.000Andrew G says, solving last night proportional response debate, in every jurisdiction in USA a threat of deadly force is treated the same as actual deadly force.
01:49:06.000Erotic love, there's familial love, love of friendship, you know.
01:49:10.000JN says, the reason for the tree of knowledge of good and evil is since Adam and Eve were created in a perfect world and in order to exercise free choice, you need at least one option that is opposite from everything else, which was good.
01:49:20.000Also, that same tree was a form of the law.
01:49:25.000I think that's an interesting interpretation.
01:49:26.000Well, that's similar to what I think you guys were saying.
01:49:29.000I think that everything's perfect, but you're given the option to do the opposite.
01:49:35.000Otherwise, you're not really good if there's no chance to not be good.
01:49:38.000You're basically a robot at that point.
01:49:39.000In the Garden of Evil, they said God was there.
01:49:41.000If it was actually a dude that was speaking as God, and then over time, as the people die and other people are born, they become the God of the time, and they're like, now I am God.
01:49:51.000And as the story's written, it's always about God, but it happens to be whoever that human was at that time.
01:49:55.000Kind of like the Matrix in number six.
01:49:58.000This is one thing that disturbs me about the garden story.
01:50:02.000Lewis' The Weight of Glory lately, and at the beginning he talks about the idea that a lot of sin and a lot of, you know, the depths of humanity that people get to, they usually are pursuing them because they're trying to fill something in themselves.
01:50:13.000They've got this intimation of deprival and they're just exercising it in the wrong ways.
01:50:18.000They really want to find that wholeness.
01:51:26.000If you're on camera saying that you have to wake up someone to threaten to stick a medical device into a neo-vagina, and that if they don't do it, you'll wring their neck, in Florida, that is okay.
01:51:38.000And if there's nothing they can do about it, I accept that's Florida's current standard and that there's no action that will be taken.
01:51:45.000If there's one thing I really hate... End of story.
01:51:46.000If there's one thing I really hate about this whole, like, it's Trump versus DeSantis thing, it's like, you know, you have this issue and, you know, there's a real soul that, you know, that is now suffering in this story, but they don't care.
01:52:00.000It's about, how does this, you know...
01:52:32.000If in the state of Florida there is no action that they can take, if a person's on camera saying they wake a person up in the middle of the night and say, if you don't stick this in you, I will do it, and that if they don't do it, you'll wring their neck, if that is not a standard by which law enforcement can take any action, Well, that's unfortunate, I guess.
01:52:47.000We should reach out to Christina Pasha.
01:53:01.000Well, if you really think it's an unrealistic standard, give them a platform to say why.
01:53:06.000Yeah, I would love for them to come and explain why it is that DeSantis cannot take any action in that regard when this person is saying this.
01:53:12.000Because I'm not talking about the surgery that happened, you know, five years ago out of state.
01:53:18.000I'm talking about the video right now showing that this stuff currently happens in South Florida.
01:53:23.000I think you've got evidence that Jazz is severely depressed.
01:53:26.000You've got reason to believe that this is the cause of it.
01:53:29.000The mother on camera saying, you are your own worst enemy.
01:53:47.000There's a viral video where they have a guy and a woman walk down the street and the man screams at the woman and is pushing her and everyone runs up and shoves him and says, you back off.
01:53:56.000Then they inverted it and have the woman literally striking the man and everyone laughs at him.
01:54:52.000Nathan C says, the irony is Tim is mad at DeSantis over jazz, but DeSantis is the only governor in office fighting back against transgenderism with real policy.
01:54:59.000So, I didn't come out and say Ron DeSantis is a bad guy for not doing it.
01:55:03.000I didn't come out and say, I hate Ron DeSantis.
01:55:10.000And instead of being like, hey Tim, glad you're concerned, here's all the things that Ron DeSantis is doing, we'll take these into consideration and we'll talk about it, they came out like, well it's too bad we don't have a time machine!
01:55:21.000And then I started having all of these pro-DeSantis people started like crapping all over him like, dude, I don't think you guys have standards.
01:57:16.000So the reason why sometimes cops will not take no for an answer, they'll say, we have received an emergency call giving us probable cause to enter the home.
01:57:30.000Sometimes they'll say to the guy, we're concerned something's going on.
01:57:33.000Why don't you leave and come back later?
01:57:35.000Sometimes it's really bad and they just arrest the guy because the neighbor made the accusation and they're like, better to have him spend the night in jail.
01:57:42.000I guess I'm from Canada where it's like all the person's on their ninth probation and they just like assaulted someone again and the cops won't come.
01:58:00.000Is it unreasonable of me to say that following those clips, a state police officer would knock on the door and say, can I speak with you in private?
01:58:08.000The issue is, I don't think it is, but the issue is, if that were to happen, the entire national media would go after Ron DeSantis as it appears he's preparing for a presidential run and he doesn't want the heat.
01:58:19.000I think if jazz wanted it, it would be completely reasonable for other people to want it for them.
02:01:02.000This is right out of Rules for Radicals, though.
02:01:04.000Accuse your opponent of what you're doing.
02:01:07.000So they've implemented an entire systemic legislative and medical structure that allows for you to mutilate children's genitalia, and then when people say, oh my gosh, they're mutilating children's genitalia, they go, Why are you talking about that?
02:01:19.000That's so weird that you'd focus on that.
02:01:21.000Well, it's almost like you've used the full force of all of corporate America and the United States government and many state governments to push for the mutilation of children, and so now people need to talk about it.
02:01:33.000And to represent Lance a little bit, he did say he didn't like sexual stuff with kids.
02:01:37.000He was specifying drag with kids, which isn't always sexual.
02:01:50.000I think you could do non-sexual drag, personally.
02:01:52.000Ian, there are burlesque shows where a portion of it is not overtly sexual.
02:01:56.000A woman will come out in a dress and dance on stage.
02:01:58.000Then at some point in the show she may take off her outer layers- And then it becomes burlesque.
02:02:02.000And so what his point was, which is incorrect, is that because a portion of drag shows don't involve overt, you know, exposure, that therefore sometimes it's not.
02:02:12.000It's like, well, not all burlesque is either.
02:02:14.000But furthermore, Drag is often over-sexualized features.
02:02:18.000A male will come out, he'll have fake breasts and fake hips to sexualize the performance.
02:02:23.000Otherwise, he would not need to have those prosthetics to simulate secondary sexual characteristics.
02:02:28.000But I'm positive that Lance is not into sexualizing kids.
02:02:35.000So the issue is, the moral standard from where all of us are, regardless of whether you're conservative, traditional, liberal, is Drag is a sexualized thing.
02:03:02.000It is themed, or it is centered around sexuality.
02:03:05.000LGBTQ stuff is literally a community that has an identity based on sexual characteristics.
02:03:12.000Introducing that to children is grooming because the purpose of grooming is to introduce the lightest form of something to a child so that you can open the door and then coax them in.
02:03:21.000So the purpose of the Drag Story Hour drag pedagogy article that James Lindsay often references says, get the glitter in the carpet that can never be removed.
02:03:30.000What they're trying to do is say, take the base element of the sex show, which is the drag performer themselves, and have them do something seemingly innocuous so that parents won't understand what we're doing.
02:03:42.000They then write exactly what they're doing to get glitter on the carpet that can never be removed, and that way the child then says, oh, drag performances are good.
02:03:51.000And then they go to one, and then what do they see?
02:03:56.000Yeah, you could make the argument that it could become a slippery slope, but I would think that if I went in and read stories to kids in my bathing suit, that would be more sexual than if I was in a dress.
02:04:05.000Well, no, because the thing about drag is that's their fetish costume, and they're wearing their fetish costume in front of kids.
02:05:18.000We recognize that wearing masks is legal for the most part.
02:05:21.000A ski mask in winter, a ski mask exists because you're cold, and you want to be able to talk and look.
02:05:26.000And you're allowed to have guns in a constitutional carry state, and we can't assume you're a criminal simply for having these things, but I'll tell you what.
02:05:32.000If you walk into a bank wearing a ski mask with a gun, don't be surprised if the security guard comes up and says, Sir, I'm gonna need you to step outside, take the mask off, leave the gun in your car.
02:05:41.000People are concerned about what your intention may be.
02:05:44.000And then he goes, oh, you're accusing me of being a burglar!
02:05:47.000That's the most insane thing I've ever heard!
02:05:49.000There's nothing inherently criminal or bank robbery about wearing a ski mask and bringing a gun into a bank.
02:05:54.000You're gonna be like, dude, don't try me.
02:05:57.000So when a drag queen, with drag being a burlesque performance, goes up to children, and you say, hey, we're kind of concerned about what you're introducing these kids to, and they say, oh, now you're... If it's burlesque, you can do non-burlesque drag.
02:07:44.000Lipstick emerged, we believe, because when women are ovulating, their lips and cheeks are bright red, so women begin to simulate these things, right?
02:07:52.000So when you have a man put on lipstick, wear a dress, shake his hips, and wear fake breasts, that is... Oh, the fake breasts, I agree.
02:08:05.000I think we're defining it differently, too, here, because I would still take issue with that, but drag queen story hour, it's never just a dude throwing a dress on.
02:08:14.000I would still be against that, but there's a lot more to it.
02:08:17.000Like Tim's mentioning, there's the fake breasts, there's an additional level of makeup.
02:08:21.000Or the person who wore the prosthetic breasts and genitals.
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02:09:28.000We're praying that for the working class in this country in this tumultuous economic time, for the unborn, and also for our enemies, people who we very much disagree with and think are doing bad things, that they may See the light.
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