On this episode of The Other Half, we discuss the latest in the war on abortion, inflation, and more. We're joined by Julio Rosas, Seamus, and Seamus to talk about it all.
00:00:30.000But there's a really interesting question about that.
00:00:32.000If it says after viability, so you're basically saying the baby is healthy and capable of surviving on its own viable, but you can kill it if the mother is sick.
00:00:41.000So this was a very rigid expansion, a very serious expansion.
00:00:46.000Now, you've also got some Republicans offering up some kind of pro-choice bill, I guess you can call it pro-abortion bill.
00:00:52.000But the argument is that Susan Collins says they need their own version because this version they tried to pass didn't provide exemptions for Catholic or Christian hospitals to not perform the abortions.
00:01:30.000It was 8.3, and many of these news outlets were like, that shows signs of cooling off.
00:01:35.000Except that's an opinion, which shouldn't be in a news piece.
00:01:38.000And with diesel prices at record highs, and diesel shortages on the way now being reported, expect next month's reporting on inflation to be terrifying.
00:01:50.000But I'm sure most of you are already feeling it because you can't get baby formula.
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00:07:26.000Senate Republicans and Manchin block Women's Health Protection Act.
00:07:32.000Quote, make no mistake, it is not Roe v. Wade codification.
00:07:48.000And I will just go straight to it with Section 4 of the bill, which is 3755, which states, there can be no limitations or requirements on A prohibition on abortion after fetal viability, when in the good faith medical judgment of the treating healthcare provider, continuation of the pregnancy would pose a risk to the pregnant patient's life or health.
00:08:11.000I just want to pause real quick and assess that provision right there and just say, It says after viability, meaning the baby can survive.
00:08:19.000You're saying you can terminate the baby, even if it could survive, because the mother's health may be at risk.
00:08:27.000I understand if their argument is, and the pregnancy, if it said, and the pregnancy, but preserve the life of the baby.
00:08:34.000Quite literally, they're like, we can kill a baby if the woman would be medically harmed by the pregnancy.
00:08:40.000Why not just take the baby out and let it live?
00:08:43.000Maybe they're assuming that if the removal of the baby would kill the woman, then... But either way, they're gonna have to take the body out, whether it's alive or not.
00:08:49.000Also, this idea of an exemption for health, this is a term which is used very vaguely, so they're actually able to say something along the lines of, well, we have determined that this woman might be negatively affected with respect to something like depression if she has a child, therefore the abortion is a medical necessity.
00:09:10.000I think it's just they need to meet their blood quotas to sacrifice to Moloch.
00:10:15.000I mean, it's the purpose, though, when you think about it.
00:10:17.000Because most people, they're not going out and having an abortion because they feel as if something is living off their body that they don't want to live off their body.
00:10:25.000It's because they don't want to be a parent.
00:10:27.000So, viability or non-viability isn't really a relevant argument to them.
00:10:30.000I mean, but it also just speaks to why they haven't actually gone forward.
00:10:34.000I mean, they could have codified it for the past 50 years, but they're not going to because it puts Democrats in this weird position on where exactly they draw this line.
00:10:42.000And clearly they drew the line just like so far out of field that We get someone like Joe Manchin.
00:10:50.000Manchin is like, he is the savior of the Democratic Party.
00:10:53.000They, the reason they don't codify Roe v. Wade is that they need it as a wedge issue.
00:10:57.000So all of a sudden Joe Manchin comes along and he's like, oh, I can't do it.
00:11:00.000And all the Democrats are like, we're trying, but Joe Manchin won't let us.
00:11:13.000So do you think it's convenient for them that Joe Manchin is standing in the way or do you believe that he is actually actively trying to impede it for that reason?
00:11:40.000So he might just be like, eh, I'll play my role.
00:11:44.000Give the Democrats a chance to keep complaining about these things and never do anything about it.
00:11:48.000I pulled up an article from Washington Post that says fetal viability is generally considered to be around 23 or 24 weeks, which is like, what is that, five to six months.
00:12:03.000I don't know where they got this data, but this is Washington Post.
00:12:05.000So I can understand if there's a baby that's considered viable at a certain age and the mom's like dying for some reason and they're like, we're going to, we're going to abort the pregnancy and then the baby dies.
00:12:15.000I'm like, okay, well, you know, these things happen.
00:12:39.000The word viability is very weird because if the power goes out, then what does that word even mean anymore?
00:12:44.000So if a baby is born at eight months, but they need to be hooked up to a respirator or a breathing machine and the power goes out, could you make the same argument?
00:12:51.000You'd have to say like, well, we don't have a breathing machine.
00:12:54.000Can this thing survive on its own with modern technology, which in this theoretical situation would be no electricity.
00:13:47.000So, I mean, ultimately that would, I mean, because that's the whole reason why we're kind of in this mess in the first place in terms of this freakish outrage and them going to the Supreme Court Justice's house because there's this misconception that Roe v. Wade ends and then all of a sudden there's no more abortions just anywhere.
00:14:04.000And so I think, at least on the state level, obviously a place like California is not going to do that because it's just so heavily down, but you would think that the states would, that are Republican controlled.
00:14:16.000So then maybe then Republicans on the federal level wouldn't feel that pressure necessarily.
00:14:20.000I think this attempt right here, I mean, Democrats just lost any, any, any, I guess the idea is we tried to do it, but because of Manchin, you better go vote, which I just don't see being reality.
00:14:31.000They're making it about the filibuster.
00:15:35.000It's like it's not only abortion, right?
00:15:39.000So I've said before, I mean, it's all murder.
00:15:42.000But if you're going to look at the perspective of your average American person, there are even many people who would consider themselves to be in favor of it or, or not in favor of banning it, who would say nine months.
00:15:52.000That's pretty insane, but that's the hill that they're choosing to die on right now.
00:15:56.000We're more or less restrictive than Europe.
00:15:59.000I mean, we had that whole funny clip of Bill Maher this week saying, I didn't know this, did you know this?
00:16:03.000And his panel said, no, we didn't know this.
00:17:25.000According to our country, our country's laws are not recognizing it as such, but our laws are wrong.
00:17:29.000That's the whole problem in the first place, is why it doesn't recognize it as such.
00:17:33.000I think it's really stupid to define murder as unlawful, but I understand why they would, because the death penalty they argue is legal, but I still think you could call all of these things murder, like the intentional killing of another person.
00:17:46.000War is where it's like, they're not murderers in war, they're killers, but they're not murderers.
00:18:00.000But I think the point is, Ian, so if you, like, were in the USSR putting people up against the wall, technically that was legal, but I wouldn't say, oh, they're not a murderer because that was legal.
00:18:33.000I mean, but I would still definitely say an innocent unborn child, you kill them, you fall into the category of someone who's committed murder.
00:18:37.000You made an excellent point that a government could make it legal and then do it and say, hey, it's not murder because we made it legal.
00:18:43.000But like, just because it's legal doesn't mean it's right or good.
00:18:47.000Well, if you look at like Communist China, I dare say that the mountains of skulls there and in like Pol Pot's Cambodia would say a different story because those were technically just victims of the government.
00:19:20.000You can talk all day and night about the rights you do have, and I think a person has inalienable rights, but someone with force can try to infringe upon those rights, and you'll have to fight for them.
00:19:30.000That's why I thought it was funny when I was in the Marine Corps and going through the training, because we were taught the Geneva Conventions and the rights that we had under that, and I'm just thinking, who would actually recognize that?
00:21:30.000I'm not sure what the exact surrounding legislation is going to be.
00:21:33.000I know, according to some figures I've seen, there was as much as a 60% decline in the rate of abortions in Texas.
00:21:40.000So we know that restrictions will prevent them from occurring in some number of instances, and they are pretty effective, but of course there are going to be some people who find a way around the law.
00:21:50.000Yeah, and of those, what did we say, 60% reduction?
00:22:43.000I do think that if a mother has the right, so-called, from the emanations and penumbras of the Constitution to execute their poor unborn child, that a father should definitely have some say in whether he has to support a baby.
00:22:56.000I don't know. The idea is if it's like my body my choice and it's like okay if you then choose to
00:23:03.000have a baby and you could choose not to which means killing the baby then it is much less
00:23:08.000morally ambiguous for a father to say I choose not to have a baby because he's not killing at that
00:23:12.000point. Well I think what's absolutely true about this is when something like abortion is legalized
00:23:17.000and normalized you do see a breakdown of the family.
00:23:20.000So if a woman does not have the obligation to care for her own unborn child, what obligation does a man have to care for his child?
00:23:26.000And I think that there's a sort of consistency there, but then I would also say that it's a consistency towards the direction of evil, and two wrongs don't make a right, ultimately.
00:23:35.000If fathers were able to abandon their children after they impregnated a woman without there being any potential ramification or any way for her to sue for child support, we would probably see even more abortions.
00:23:45.000How many progressive or liberal women do you think would advocate for men having the right to say, I have nothing to do with this baby?
00:23:57.000Well, and that's why it's so funny when liberals this past week have been saying, well then, if you're going to force them to have kids, then the father has to be just as involved.
00:24:06.000And all the conservatives are saying, yes, absolutely.
00:24:10.000Again, it just shows just how kind of we're... Obviously, it's not just limited to abortion.
00:24:15.000It happens with every single topic, but people just talk past each other and they don't really know what the other side actually wants.
00:24:21.000It is the rule It is a tendency of the right to not know the left's argument, but the rule is they typically, I should say they typically do, and it is the rule on the left they don't know the right's argument.
00:24:33.000That's why the left, there's this meme going around where it's like, it's a four panel comic where someone says, my religion says I can't do this.
00:24:42.000Then the person says, my religion says you can't do this, and they say F off.
00:24:45.000And I'm like, you realize that means no gay marriage in churches, and no abortions at religious hospitals.
00:24:50.000Because if you're saying okay to someone who says, my religion says I can't do this, no cakes for you, no gay message cakes, no trans cakes, no abortions at religious hospitals, and no marriages at churches that say no, they clearly don't agree with that.
00:25:06.000They don't even know their own arguments.
00:25:10.000Well, also, the thing that I love about this is all of these hot takes about how men should have to take care of their children if they get a woman pregnant.
00:25:17.000They'll tweet something like, well, if abortion isn't legal, then a man who gets a woman pregnant has a responsibility to stay with her and care for the child.
00:25:25.000Like, it sounds like something me disguised as a liberal would say.
00:25:28.000Like, hey guys, you know what I think?
00:25:29.000I think these men should have an obligation to take care of the child that they make, and they're like, yeah!
00:25:34.000That's just marriage with extra steps.
00:25:37.000I think if the man gets her pregnant, then he should swear an oath till death do them part.
00:25:59.000They're arguing on your behalf for the next step of your argument.
00:26:03.000That's why it's like, guys, the pro-choice side, which is, I mean like the literal traditional liberal types who are sitting there confused like shrugging, they're left out of this.
00:26:13.000And the overt pro-abortion side, which is like late term, terminate the baby, whatever, They don't even know what they're arguing against.
00:26:21.000They're so far left, they can't see where the right is.
00:26:23.000So they've looped back and said, traditional marriage must be enforced if you take away our rights.
00:26:28.000So there's this idea called horseshoe theory.
00:26:31.000I've coined a term that I call this merry-go-round theory.
00:26:33.000I mean, eventually they just go so far to the left that they get to the right, but then they keep going back around to the left.
00:26:38.000It's not like they stay at a reasonable position.
00:26:39.000Someone in the chat actually said, Seamus, three rights make a left.
00:26:47.000It's kind of remarkable how the left has gone so far left they've become racial identitarians where they're actually just like now advocating for segregation and they've begun advocating for traditional marriage as a point against conservatives who want it's like They're going around again, merry-go-round theory.
00:27:04.000The center stays there, just watching it happen.
00:27:09.000The biggest part of the question is, do you want the babies to be able to be killed or not?
00:27:12.000But I think it's, do you want the government involved in these decisions?
00:27:17.000I've always thought child support made sense.
00:27:19.000If a guy goes out and gets five women pregnant, and then he just goes off to Santa Barbara to live on the beach and smoke pot, he has to follow through with what he's done.
00:27:29.000If women have the right to terminate the pregnancy and the man says, I'm out, then they have a choice to say, okay, me too.
00:27:38.000If women have the absolute right to end a pregnancy because it's their body, then there is no legal argument for the man having any responsibility at all.
00:27:55.000I think the left would actually be okay with that.
00:27:58.000I think in the long run, yeah, they would adopt that position because ultimately they'll support anything that denigrates the family or familial responsibility.
00:28:04.000But there was a meme that said the reason they won't accept that position is because it takes power away from the woman.
00:28:09.000If the woman gets pregnant, she gets to choose whether or not the man is going to provide her or not.
00:28:34.000If they were pro-choice, it would involve the man's right to choose whether or not he wants to be a part of her family.
00:28:39.000Well, I just see it as, because when I was covering the pro-abortion protests outside Alito's home earlier this week, I was calling them that.
00:28:46.000There were pro-abortion protesters at this house, and some people were just saying, oh, you're being so disingenuous by calling them pro-abortion, they're pro-choice, and so the choice to do what?
00:28:57.000It's like when the people are like, the Civil War wasn't about slavery, it was about states' rights.
00:29:05.000I mean, that's the whole, they're not Can I make one point real quick?
00:29:13.000This whole point you just made here where they would claim it was disingenuous for you to call them pro-abortion instead of pro-choice, that logic can be extended to literally any political position.
00:29:21.000I'm not pro-gun, I'm just pro a person choosing to have a gun.
00:29:25.000You have to call gun rights advocates pro-choice now.
00:29:27.000You can't call us pro-gun, you have to call us pro-choice.
00:30:31.000Yeah, well, it's funny because they will usually try to use terms like anti-abortion as a smear, as if it's something to be ashamed of, that I'm against abortion.
00:30:39.000They'll also use terms like pro-birth, like, you're not pro-life, you're just pro-birth.
00:30:47.000Because they don't know what your argument is.
00:30:49.000And so they say, like, I just, when I see all these memes on Facebook, I'm like, it's so frustrating because they've never talked to a conservative about this.
00:30:57.000And then, so I can see this and I can, I'll say something like, They'll say something ridiculous like, it's about power and old white men.
00:31:04.000And then I'll say something like, actually, the majority of pro-life people tend to be female.
00:31:09.000And it's actually really simple because there's slightly more women in this country.
00:32:14.000And there are many areas of life you are not saying all life is sacred.
00:32:17.000I would say like, if I'm pro-choice, but I don't think the government should get involved, but I'd be happier if no one ever got an abortion.
00:32:28.000Well, I don't want the government to be like, you can't decide what to do with your body.
00:32:32.000So, if you were someone who is in favor of the Second Amendment and strong gun rights, but you didn't personally own the gun, would we not still call you pro-gun?
00:32:41.000We wouldn't just say, well, he's pro-choice, he's pro-allowing to choose, you know, allow someone to choose whether they're gonna own a gun.
00:32:47.000Yeah, we don't do this with any other political conversation.
00:33:03.000And also a lot of people don't want to get abortions that feel like the government shouldn't be involved in the decision.
00:33:07.000Pro-life sounds better than anti-abortion.
00:33:10.000Granted, pro-choice in my opinion sounds worse, like pro-abortion sounds worse than anti-abortion sounds, but these are political terms meant to garner support.
00:33:22.000What does it mean to be pro-life in a general sense?
00:33:24.000I do not believe it encompasses all life.
00:33:26.000I certainly think there's an argument from conservatives about some people through due process forfeiting their right to life, the death penalty.
00:33:43.000Yeah, and I'm fine with anti-abortion as a label, but I still think pro-life is consistent, because my desire to be anti-abortion comes from an understanding that all human life is precious and sacred.
00:33:56.000So my issue is, the conversation around the death penalty is not a part of the pro- or anti-abortion argument.
00:34:03.000So if there are protesters outside saying abortion should be banned, I'm not going to be like, interesting, the signs they're holding up send a strong message about the death penalty.
00:34:34.000If you were to go talk about the death penalty... To be fair, if that language was not already being used in the abortion debate, they probably would.
00:34:43.000Well, in the context that I've seen is that, because I've been covering the southern border crisis a lot, especially since the last time I was on here, No one who advocates for what the Biden administration is doing, which is essentially opening up the southern border to illegal immigration, they're not going to say they're pro-open borders.
00:34:59.000They're going to say they're pro-immigrant.
00:35:00.000They're pro-asylum seekers, even though, you know, when you break that down into, well, who's crossing and how are they crossing?
00:35:07.000What are they doing after they illegally cross an international border?
00:35:18.000What percentage of pro-life individuals, conservatives, do you think would take issue with being told they were anti-abortion and having that label on them?
00:36:16.000I'm just saying everyone should be allowed to have them.
00:36:17.000But part of what was particularly hilarious about that thread with Pacman was it wasn't just Hassan responding to it.
00:36:27.000There were many, many people in the replies getting a lot of likes saying things like, well, of course I'm pro-abortion, just like I'm pro any other medical procedure.
00:38:14.000And so, there's been, on the progressive side of things, there's been a lot of people who have been upset at Pelosi saying, why are you supporting Henry Cuellar when you're trying to talk about Preventing Roe v. Wade from being overturned.
00:38:25.000So I didn't see this until just now, but I'm going to assume that's part of the reason why.
00:38:29.000I think it might actually just be that there is no logical argument.
00:38:34.000If it's good for the revolution, it's good.
00:38:36.000If it's bad for the revolution, it's bad.
00:38:37.000And Nancy Pelosi is in a seat of power, and they would prefer one of their, you know, political tribesmen or whatever to be in that seat of power.
00:38:45.000I mean, I was just covering a pro-abortion protest in Los Angeles, and this was very far left people, not just mainstream Democrats.
00:39:12.000And I'm gonna plug the book here really quick.
00:39:14.000I talk about that in the book when it comes to Antifa and some of the Chaz occupiers during that time, but to bring it back, I think that's why, again, I don't know who was there and who organized that, but that could be just another thing too, where they just viewed Pelosi being part of the political establishment and the political establishment is all one and the same.
00:39:31.000I think there's going to be a reckoning of all reckonings in this country.
00:39:35.000We have this story from Post Millennial that goes along with this.
00:39:39.000Glenn Youngkin slammed for lackluster response to protest outside SCOTUS Justice's home.
00:39:44.000Yeah, Glenn Youngkin said, we're going to do a security perimeter and everyone's like, yo, 18 USC, blah, blah, blah, whatever, says you can't demonstrate to try and influence a court or a judge or whatever.
00:39:55.000And they're doing it and they get away with it.
00:39:58.000And the media comes out and acts like, EGAD!
00:40:00.000The far right has called for the arrest of people who've broken the law!
00:40:05.000They got Will Chamberlain, Jack Posobiec, me, and a few other people in this Daily Beast fake news article.
00:40:10.000Where I'm just like... Oh, was it Patrizio?
00:40:44.000You used to think we agreed because we did, and then you left and said, why don't you agree with me anymore?
00:40:48.000I think these people should be arrested.
00:40:50.000I think the police should walk up, take their hands very slowly, put them in cuffs, bring them into the police van or whatever, take them to the station.
00:40:58.000They get charged with their little misdemeanor, you know, protest charge.
00:41:02.000The judge says, don't let me catch you there again.
00:41:04.000They get a court supervision ruling, which means basically nothing.
00:42:12.000The United States is awesome because of 50 states, 50 different legal systems, kind of.
00:42:15.000So you if it's legal in one state and illegal in the neighboring state, you do it in the legal state and you communicate with people where it's illegal in the illegal state and you change their minds while you're doing it where it's legal.
00:42:26.000And then you have the opportunity to kind of change the law that way without actually having to go disobey directly.
00:42:30.000This is why I think overturning Roe v. Wade is actually very important.
00:42:35.000It allows for this decentralized testing pool of law.
00:43:08.000Eventually, we can actually look at the data and be like, which place is better?
00:43:11.000Granted, there's different terrain, there's different resources.
00:43:14.000But allowing this, allowing people to decide for themselves in their own areas, I think actually would help preserve the union, would help make people live together better.
00:43:22.000Because, you know, if you're like, I don't want to live in Texas, these laws, I'm going to move somewhere else.
00:44:04.000But here's my favorite point in all of this.
00:44:07.000At these protests, there is no equality under the law.
00:44:10.000I see this as a clear violation of the 14th Amendment, in that these people are not being arrested.
00:44:16.000Equality under the law means that if you break the law, you are held equal, same as everybody else, right?
00:44:22.000These people are arguing that the 14th Amendment, equality under the law, guarantees a woman's right to abortion due to her right to privacy and medical choices.
00:44:30.000At the same time, they're actively defending that they don't get criminally charged under existing statute, which is not equality under the law.
00:44:38.000So don't come to me and say, the 14th Amendment guarantees- Shut up!
00:44:41.000Until you say, arrest me because I did break the law, I don't believe you're serious and you're only trying to seize power and you're a liar!
00:44:59.000And not to get too headed, but I mean, the reason why there's so much concern about More riots or some level of unrest if Roe v. Wade is actually overturned is because when you look at how much people were able to get away with on such a large scale in 2020 in terms of looting, in terms of attacking police officers, in terms of just general lawlessness.
00:45:20.000I mean they were able to get away with a lot and even the ones that were arrested.
00:45:23.000I mean Portland's like the prime example but it happened in other places like New York City and in Chicago and so on and so forth.
00:45:30.000And so that's why, you know, why wouldn't they run the same playbook?
00:45:33.000Because not only are they going to get favorable media coverage, like they already have, and not only are they going to get the blessing of Democrats, like right now, there's a very good chance of not facing any consequences if they do anything very severe.
00:45:47.000So, I mean, part of the reason for the book is to explain how we got here as a country, and we've lost the plot on just so many things, and we are in such a worse position to be able to confront not even just like issues of racism or abortion, but it's just because people saw violence worked to a degree, it's okay, why not just continue that when we don't get what we want?
00:46:26.000I mean, and when we look at, I mean, 2020 was also just such a unique year, right?
00:46:30.000Cause we had the emergency COVID, we don't know too much about it and all this panic around it.
00:46:34.000And then we also had a very heated presidential election and then there was a spark with George Floyd.
00:46:40.000So, when you get these conditions just right, and that's why since the Derek Chauvin trial, there hasn't been really anything crazy happening, because there have been instances where I thought, oh, a police action, that's controversial, maybe I should go to that city, and then nothing happens.
00:46:55.000But because there needs to be more build-up, kind of, you know, the country has gone through these cycles of build-up and then rage with, you know, the summer riots in 68, 67.
00:47:07.000Then we look at Ferguson, and then now with Minneapolis in 2020 and 2021.
00:47:12.000So even if, you know, there's no mass violence post-overturning Roe v. Wade, I would say that it's kind of more like a Jenga block that's put into the build-up to that, to where then maybe 2024 and that presidential election, and what will the country look like then?
00:47:27.000Are we going to be in severe economic You know, depression and downturn.
00:47:31.000And then, you know, when you put people in these extreme positions through no fault of their own, especially, they're going to do crazy things.
00:47:40.000And, you know, doing these lockdowns, I think definitely contributed to 2020 because what was happening around, just the timing of everything.
00:47:50.000It was late May, especially in a place like Minneapolis.
00:47:53.000People were tired of Staying home people lost their jobs because of the lockdowns and so they it was just It was just a perfect tinderbox essentially that all it needed was something like a George Floyd to happen.
00:48:06.000I mean with Minneapolis Being there on the ground shortly after after that it was it was crazy Just how the kind of the basic tenets of what we know to be a civilized society just wasn't there In terms of, you know, for example, I was so used to protests not affecting a couple blocks around where the event was happening, but I quickly realized that there was no stores open.
00:48:28.000The stores that were nearby, they were all being looted, and so I ran out of water, because I was out there all day, and so I had to grab water from the target that was looted, because they were putting All the stuff that hadn't been looted into this giant pile so that people could just grab whatever they wanted.
00:48:45.000So I just took what I needed and then moved on.
00:48:52.000I mean, it was just it was such a weird time.
00:48:54.000And so that really was what was worrying going into 2021 thinking, well, is this kind of like the new normal now in terms of just how the immediate reaction to something that is viewed as unjustified is then just massive violence and lawlessness?
00:49:09.000What frustrates me with most stuff is like, I just want to know what the rules are.
00:49:14.000And if the rules were applied evenly, then I'd be like, play ball!
00:49:24.000Actually, a better example is, have you ever played Pokemon the card game?
00:49:27.000I know many people in our audience probably did when they were kids.
00:49:31.000And you probably had somebody where it's like, Yo, my Gyarados does 50 damage to your dude and I win and they start getting angry because they're losing so they just flip the table.
00:49:41.000Yo, I once saw a kid pick up his Razor Scooter and smack the other kid during a competition or contest or whatever.
00:50:00.000We're having a political contest, and have you ever seen an argument where someone's very calm, and they're like, I think X, Y, and Z, and the other person's getting angrier and angrier?
00:50:09.000That's what it is, and there's no moderator.
00:50:12.000Normally, the moderator should step in and be like, yo, yo, yo, yo, tone it down, tone it down.
00:50:16.000You're yelling, you know, let's keep it civil.
00:50:19.000In this political debate that has reached the streets, one side is getting angrier and angrier, and they're smashing windows and starting fires and beating people because they're losing the argument.
00:50:38.000And part of the problem, because when you look at Los Angeles 92, right after Rodney King and the trial that resulted, it did take a long time for the National Guard and even active duty forces and the Marine Corps was also deployed during that time.
00:50:53.000It took a while for them to get there, and that's part of the reason why the riots were so destructive as they were.
00:50:57.000And it just seems like we're in this constant cycle where riot response is updated, and then because it's sometimes decades until the next one, those policies and the people in charge, they leave and they change and so things are outdated.
00:51:11.000And probably another good example of that was Kenosha.
00:51:14.000Because everyone was asking, why did it take so long for the National Guard to get there?
00:51:19.000And the Sheriff, I remember, he said during a press conference, they didn't follow the proper procedure to officially request the National Guard.
00:51:29.000He said that we got our wires crossed.
00:51:31.000And the same thing happened in Minneapolis.
00:51:32.000The mayor, Jacob Frye, they thought they put in the official request, the proper way to do it, and they didn't just because no one does this.
00:51:44.000How many people got arrested for rioting in Kenosha?
00:52:05.000The one arrest I do know about was Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:52:09.000The guy who was trying to protect the neighborhood, who ran away, who rendered aid to even the protesters and rioters themselves, who fled for his life, defended himself, And then tried turning himself in, turned himself in, and went through the ringer on all this.
00:52:23.000And I'm like, what about the dude who bashed the old man in the head with a rock?
00:52:38.000The National Guard is the bad parent where one child is sitting there playing with his video game and the other kid comes over and punches him and takes it.
00:52:46.000And the parents run over and go, whoa, whoa, stop fighting, stop fighting.
00:52:49.000Or the bad teacher who sees a kid get tripped in the hall and then says, zero tolerance, you're both getting detention.
00:52:54.000It's like, dude, one side is committing violent acts and destruction, and the other side is like, please stop this, and the National Guard comes in or the police come in and say, everybody calm down.
00:53:06.000The people who came down there with Kyle Rittenhouse were like, we're gonna protect these buildings and render aid to the rioters themselves, hope everyone's safe.
00:53:50.000That were like crying tears of joy and relief that this kid was not going to be sent away for life for protecting his home and where he lived.
00:54:24.000That was the issue with the official response in Kenosha was, because I mean, the governor, Tony Evers, he only called up 150 National Guardsmen.
00:54:34.000That was the initial response and that was not nearly enough to actually secure A town, granted Kenosha is not that big compared to like Minneapolis, but when the city leaders, the state leaders, they did abdicate their responsibility because again, they didn't want to, in my opinion, they didn't want to seem like they were cracking down on racial justice protesters.
00:54:52.000And then that leads a power vacuum to where then people like Kyle Rittenhouse, with good intentions, they're like, hey, we're not going to let people just Destroy this town anymore and we're gonna we're gonna prevent you and we're gonna stop you so you just continue moving on do what you do and then Yeah, something like the Kyle Rittenhouse situation is created and and yeah, it was I mean I was there for the second half and I was there covering the trial and It was it was just it was just it was just so Weird seeing how when being at the trial and seeing the facts laid out because you know I didn't know every single aspect of it I didn't you know solid like I said, we saw the second half of it and
00:55:29.000But the only good thing about the trial is that it did lay everything out.
00:55:34.000You know, unfortunately, he did suffer a lot to get to that point, but there's nobody who's going in there with an open mind can then come away and say, okay, yeah, he definitely is a white supremacist terrorist murderer that just wanted to mass shoot everybody.
00:55:46.000I mean, if that was the case, he would have shot me.
00:55:48.000The Daily Beast is now rated as fake news by NewsGuard because they have refused to correct all of the fake news they wrote about Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:55:57.000That's the principle reason why they've been knocked down.
00:55:59.000I love it, because whenever these Daily Beast writers who just do hit pieces on conservatives or libertarians, I just screen grab the NewsGuard thing and I'm like, let me send that to them, you know?
00:56:10.000And it's not even just them, but, I mean, with the whole, I mean, not to harp on Kenosha too much, but one of the egregious examples of the mainstream media just misportraying what was actually happening, I mean, CNN multiple times stated that Jacob Blake, as a fact, was unarmed.
00:56:31.000I mean, they didn't say appeared to, didn't say looked like it, I mean, it was hard to tell with the initial video.
00:56:38.000So the two kids that were in the back seat of the car, and I mean this is what led to the whole thing, was that the woman that he took the kids from, that was who he sexually assaulted.
00:56:45.000And so that's why she had a protective order against him, and that's why the police were called.
00:56:50.000And so when the police were on their way, they said, oh yeah, by the way, this is his history.
00:56:55.000He's re-victimizing this woman and trying to take her kids.
00:56:57.000And then he's armed with a knife and the taser apparently didn't work.
00:57:02.000And so, I mean, the video alone, like when I first saw the video, I thought, okay, yeah, this looks bad, but this doesn't just happen.
00:57:09.000A cop is not going to just plug away at this guy in the back.
00:57:13.000But the whole reason why he did is because he was armed with a knife and he was about to go into this car with two kids in the back and take them away.
00:57:19.000And so then the officer had to think, well, then if they're going to chase after them, it puts the two kids' lives at risk.
00:58:20.000From Wikipedia, says Blake had a warrant for his arrest from July based on charges of third-degree felony sexual assault, trespassing, and disorderly conduct for domestic abuse.
00:58:33.000But, just imagining a scenario where you're like, I can respect innocent until proven guilty, but the cops did not go there thinking, we're gonna attack this unarmed guy.
00:58:46.000They were like, this is a guy who's wanted for the arrest on felony sexual assault charges, we need to bring him in.
00:58:52.000And yes, you do need to bring that person in.
00:58:55.000You can be innocent until proven guilty, and the state has a right to stop you and those charges to be levied against you.
00:59:03.000A guy holding a knife, who was wanted for sexual assault, and they're like, I'm gonna put his name on my helmet.
00:59:08.000Well, and that was to go back to my initial point with the media initially saying, as a fact, not even being speculative, saying he was unarmed.
00:59:16.000I mean, do you not think that didn't incite people to come from Madison, to come from Chicago?
00:59:22.000There was guys that came from Minneapolis.
00:59:23.000to take advantage of what was going on.
00:59:27.000I mean, that's why it's so frustrating having been there.
00:59:31.000I mean, that was what the title of my book, right?
00:59:33.000I mean, because CNN, it's like, because I've met Omar Jimenez, who was a reporter.
00:59:55.000We used to call this group the tourists, where when I would cover protests or unrest, these same people were at every protest, no matter what the cause was.
01:00:07.000Some of them actually bragged about going to Turkey and to China to advance the protests in those countries.
01:00:12.000And at that point, I'm just like, you work for the CIA or something?
01:00:15.000Because like, the fact that you're in China organizing protesters and Turkey, I just have to wonder.
01:00:20.000But no, I don't I don't genuinely think or accuse them of being intelligence or anything.
01:00:26.000And I think they just want to destroy.
01:00:29.000So you'd be in New York and someone would be like, Trayvon Martin.
01:00:33.000And sure enough, they're this group is my favorite moment.
01:00:36.000was the Trayvon Martin protest, when some of the tourists arrived, knew how to manipulate a protest march, got in front of it, and then tricked the march into going to Wall Street to protest at the bull, and the actual organizers were like throwing their arms in the air, like, why are we here?
01:00:51.000Like, we're supposed to go to the police station, but instead, like, there's people jumping on the bull and stuff, and I'm like, yeah, the tourists took over.
01:00:57.000They, these are, they're, like, they're extremist revolutionaries.
01:01:22.000So they can, and then they can destroy things, smash things, burn things, et cetera.
01:01:25.000And it's impossible for the state to figure out who did it.
01:01:28.000Well, and one of the things that is also frustrating about having covered all these riots is that there are some people on the left who like to point to right-wing infiltrators.
01:01:38.000I mean, in Minneapolis, there's Umbrella Man that they accuse of being an infiltrator.
01:01:43.000They say that this Boogaloo boy was the one that set the 3rd Precinct on fire.
01:01:47.000And so let's just say, for the sake of argument, to borrow from Ben Shapiro, Okay, for the sake of argument, King.
01:01:53.000Let's just say, yeah, it was all right-wing infiltrators that set the Third Precinct on fire.
01:01:57.000And as someone who was there, I can tell you that none of the actual Black Lives Matter protesters slash rioters had any issue of who set the building on fire.
01:02:05.000I mean, that was the whole reason why they were there, because they wanted to actually set it on fire with the officers still inside.
01:02:12.000They were all happy that this was on fire.
01:02:14.000So even If that, you know, this was the work of extreme right-wing trying to make the movement look bad.
01:02:20.000I can tell I can tell you being outside there that everyone was so happy and they wanted to continue to the other precinct which was the closest one was the fifth precinct and they thankfully weren't successful in destroying that but It's just, but they can't accept the rhetoric that they say.
01:02:36.000I mean, all the time, you hear revolution, you hear, we gotta do direct action, but as soon as there is direct action on a pretty big scale, they want to back up and say, whoa, whoa, whoa, actually it wasn't us, it was people trying to make us look bad.
01:02:46.000It's like, no, you're practicing what you're preaching.
01:02:49.000And also just the fact that other people were charged with setting the Third Precinct on fire.
01:02:53.000Remember that guy who stole the body armor and like the gun or something?
01:02:57.000Like from the burning building he stole body armor?
01:03:01.000Yeah, one guy, I do remember one guy who went into the, before it got set on fire, came out with like a riot helmet and he held it up in the air and everyone was cheering.
01:03:09.000I think about like... Some people are dumb.
01:03:11.000Sent it in the National Guard and like, I think that Trump was afraid, because he was the president, I think this was his Kenosha, was afraid that we'd have another May 4th Kent State shooting on our hand where the National Guard fired into a crowd of college students, killed four people.
01:03:25.000But firstly, it wasn't like a peaceful protest like at Kent State.
01:03:28.000That was relatively peaceful from what I know.
01:03:48.000I'm willing to bet there were... I don't know if they said this to Trump, but I'm willing to bet that there were Republican strategists who were like, the more riots there are, the better our chances come the end of the year.
01:04:42.000No matter how thin of an excuse that they had, they were going to riot because that was, and this is what I was saying before, the automatic response.
01:04:50.000What really hit me was when I was covering a riot in Wauwatosa, Wisconsin, which is probably about an hour and a half northwest of Kenosha, where it was a black officer who shot a black teenager who was armed with a gun.
01:05:03.000He was pointing the gun at the responding officers.
01:05:06.000And, uh, but this was all pre-George Floyd and pre-COVID, and so that's why no one knew about this.
01:05:11.000And so since the Milwaukee District Attorney was making a decision whether or not to criminally charge the officer in a post-George Floyd world, that's why there was riots in the first place.
01:05:23.000Being in that town, I mean, it really looked like my hometown of Wheaton.
01:05:26.000I mean, it was a Black Lives Matter caravan from Madison that made their way to Wauwatosa, and as soon as they hit the city limits, they started destroying everything in sight, including homes.
01:05:35.000Take a look at this Civics polling on Black Lives Matter from April 25th, 2017 to May 10th, 2022.
01:05:41.000We can see net support, just after George Floyd was killed, hit 23%.
01:07:04.000And so again, I mean, yeah, I mean, now that was a bad case where an officer was trying to use a taser and accidentally shoots a guy.
01:07:11.000But, again, what happened in that riot was people who had nothing to do with Ken Potter or Dante Wright had to suffer the negative consequences because people were crazy and going looting again.
01:07:22.000I mean, it goes back to the two wrongs don't make a right, and that's why I'm just against rioting.
01:07:27.000I want to pull up this story from Como News.
01:07:30.000BLM co-founder admits she held parties at Mansion with donor funds.
01:08:04.000When more stories like this come out, when you find out nobody knows who's in charge, nobody knows where the money was going, they bought a big mansion, had a bunch of parties with your money, you know, to everybody who watches this show, to everybody who watches shows like Steven Crowder's, or people who are calling out the lies from Black Lives Matter, Their money's safe.
01:08:24.000They didn't make donations, but these regular people who don't pay attention, who are like, I'm gonna make a donation, and then did.
01:08:30.000And all they did was fund a bunch of parties and a bunch of nonsense and a bunch of violence.
01:08:37.000I mean, again, she wasn't the candidate then, but a senator, Kamala Harris, shared this bail fund because that was the current thing to do, and a lot of celebrities also advocated for it and donated to it.
01:08:51.000And what's even worse, in my opinion, with that case is that it's not even necessarily that... I mean, the money was used to bail out actual rioters, but in the months since then, in the years since then, they've bailed out some pretty egregious people who should probably stay locked up, and yet they get released because they have all this influx of cash all of a sudden, thanks to people like Kamala Harris.
01:09:09.000And then probably one case was that they bailed out this guy.
01:09:15.000I forgot what the original charge was for, but he then went out and killed somebody in a road rage incident shortly thereafter.
01:09:23.000And the Minnesota Freedom Fund, they put out a statement saying, they confirmed that yes, our money was used to bail him out, and then they deleted it.
01:09:30.000Because I think they were getting too much backlash.
01:09:34.000This is the problem with with supporting the current thing and the emotions running high is that you're right people don't think through what's actually happening because if you actually knew how like peaceful protesters work and when they're actually arrested by police a lot of times they just get written a ticket.
01:09:48.000They don't need they don't need to get bailed out but because someone wanted to do something and it all looks good and we're gonna virtue signal and now people are dead.
01:09:57.000I think it's these leftist organizations know what they're doing.
01:10:00.000I remember during Occupy Wall Street, there was the National Lawyers Guild, and they were helping people that I'd witnessed be wrongfully arrested, and the cops lied.
01:10:15.000Then I saw them one day at a protest where there was like a bunch of right-wing people wanted to have a protest, or they wanted to have a rally.
01:10:23.000So the left showed up to oppose that rally with violence.
01:10:26.000The National Lawyers Guild was on one side defending Antifa.
01:10:30.000And I saw them and I was like, how come you guys are only observing one side?
01:11:00.000I mean, I see those guys out there all the time and they definitely are.
01:11:04.000And look, I'm not for, you know, police cracking down on people unjustly.
01:11:07.000It's just that in all the riots that I personally covered, it was always rioters making the first move and police responding in kind.
01:11:14.000It's amazing watching the right try to protest and having no experience and no organizational power.
01:11:19.000And they think they can go up to these cops and say things.
01:11:23.000I just, it's funny watching these videos, and you'll see these conservatives being like, yo, yo, why are you arresting him?
01:11:28.000He didn't do anything, I don't understand, like, what's going on?
01:11:30.000And it's like, wow, that's exactly what the leftists say.
01:11:34.000Like, these people thought they could show up, and that the cops were gonna treat them like, oh, these guys support us, so we're gonna arrest them.
01:12:08.000If you think about the allegory, like the French Revolution, I'm reading a little bit about it.
01:12:11.000Like if they were like, and there were there were like sympathizers to the revolutionaries in the courts, and that some of the French revolutionaries were arrested and then released, you'd be reading about him.
01:12:51.000And then the media and everyone just aligned against Trump over it.
01:12:55.000This is how much institutional power the left has and has had.
01:12:58.000They were able to intimidate a sitting president of the United States into going into the bunker of the White House, and it was not criticized by the media?
01:13:10.000They were considered to be peaceful protesters?
01:13:18.000And then they, you know, they accused the right of being insurrectionist.
01:13:21.000And in that riot, there were 60 Secret Service officers who were badly injured.
01:13:26.000uh... all around our around sixty park police officers were also injured and
01:13:31.000yet that's not viewed as an insurrection and that's why with
01:13:34.000you know the whole january six is a discussion i mean for me i view it as a
01:13:37.000riot and and and i was against that because right or not good
01:13:41.000but it's just it's i i i don't care what anybody has to say about january six if
01:13:45.000they then look at what happened at the white house and there is in because i mean that was also an attack
01:13:50.000against one of the pages of government
01:13:52.000I mean, it's just so, it's just, I know we get into the whole double standard and hypocrisy, but it's important to point that out because when we're talking about the, again, the history of our country, that you have to, we have to remember where people stood when things were on other sides of the debate.
01:14:09.000Yeah, well, I remember all throughout the summer of 2020 when the left was rioting, I was seeing hot takes from lefties who were saying things along the lines of, oh, all the two-way conservatives who said they wanted to stand up to a tyrannical government are awfully silent right now, arguing, basically, if anyone remembers, that conservatives should be laying down their lives for a left-wing insurrection.
01:14:31.000Then, all of a sudden, the left decides to start pretending that they're against insurrection, labeling January 6th an insurrection, which is a bizarre thing, considering basically no one had weapons.
01:14:44.000We also know there was a—we're pretty sure, based on the evidence, there was a lot of What?
01:14:48.000from feds there and the narrative was not what the media reported it as or has
01:14:53.000been claiming it was but regardless now they are once again in favor of
01:14:58.000insurrections saying things like Lori Lightfoot for example stating this is a
01:15:03.000call to arms we have left-wing political leaders saying we gotta fight we got a
01:15:06.000fight what we need revolution etc she called she called for arms and fight
01:15:12.000She said, this is a call to arms, we need to fight, fight to victory.
01:15:38.000I think what they were talking about was more a revolt than a revolution.
01:15:43.000So a revolution is when you try to, like, completely overturn the social order to build something new, whereas a revolt is when you're trying to fight back against something being arguably imposed upon you.
01:15:56.000So you think this is more of a revolt?
01:17:00.000They'd been debating for years and years together.
01:17:02.000And when it didn't work with the Articles of Confederation, they replaced it with something else, and what we have today.
01:17:07.000I mean, it's really... I mean, especially with the Antifa people and those guys, yes, they are a threat, especially if they're motivated in specific areas like the Pacific Northwest, but...
01:17:21.000They also just hype themselves up too much.
01:17:23.000They spray paint ACAB on the side of a wall and they jerk themselves off on social media by saying, look how awesome this is.
01:17:48.000And again, it's the temper tantrum that left us have.
01:17:51.000If we don't get what we want, we want it to go away, or we'll influence it through violence.
01:17:56.000I wish they thought of it more as a boat we're all on, that they don't like how fast it's going, so they want to burn the boat as we're all on it, and like, I'll sink it.
01:18:04.000Like, no, no, no, we gotta fix the boat.
01:18:06.000I wish that Republicans felt that way, too.
01:18:18.000This hot take that we should abolish the Senate, this is so typical.
01:18:22.000Often what happens is the right will either make a strawman argument to poke fun at the left to explain the most extreme possible position, and then the left will literally meet them there and end up unironically believing that thing.
01:18:35.000So, I heard people saying after the 2016 election when the left was complaining about the Electoral College, well at that point, why not abolish the Senate as well?
01:18:44.000Because if you think that everything should be left up to a purely popular vote, then the whole idea of representative government doesn't make sense.
01:18:53.000And at first, left-wingers were saying, they were denying that that's ridiculous, that's not what we want, and then of course, not that far down the line, oh, that is what they want.
01:19:06.000I don't mind a more direct republic, but I do like the stop gaps that we have so that mob can't make a crazy decision tomorrow because a video went viral.
01:20:09.000Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking.
01:20:10.000I think you can drink up to like eight.
01:20:11.000Just bask in like the sun lamp and just like chill out.
01:20:14.000I always watch lizards do that and I'm like that must be like the best feeling.
01:20:17.000Yeah, if you're really still it doesn't feel, it's only when you start moving that it gets real.
01:20:20.000Really hot, but if you're really still cats like in the Sun to you ever see it's funny like so we have a window in my office and Bocas will go in there and lay in the Sun and then as the Sun moves he like you'll look and then he'll be laying there and sleeping and I'll get up and like inch forward and we'll go back I went to pet him with wet hands and he like recoil and I thought I a desert cat wants to dry hands Sunlight!
01:20:45.000There's a good argument to be made about that, right?
01:20:46.000So when someone says something like, well, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, well, I would argue that the needs of the many include the need for strong social structures that don't allow you to just take things from people because they happen to be in the minority.
01:20:58.000If you have a group of 11 people and one of them makes all the water, the other 10 are super lazy and they're beating their kids and they're terrible, the needs of the many, you gotta, you look at the big picture.
01:21:32.000The beautiful thing about Spock was that he was half human, half Vulcan, so it was an opportunity to have the logical rhetoric and then Captain Kirk would give him like the emotional human understanding, like basically the reasoning or the emotion.
01:21:45.000The needs of the many also can include your mom.
01:21:49.000Yeah, when you say the needs of the many... Also, I want to mention that, like, this authoritarian idea, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
01:21:54.000Like, who gets to determine what the needs of the many are?
01:22:21.000So 10 years ago, they were interns, and they were writing their stupid garbage pieces about Gamergate or whatever.
01:22:27.00010 years later, they're now the star reporters.
01:22:29.000In 10 years, they're going to be like, you know, I've been at the Times now for 25 years, and as the executive editor, the stories we're going to run, they're going to be running these institutions.
01:22:41.000There's that viral meme where the law clerk was like, It is more dangerous that the courts took away women's rights than the leak happened and defied the sanctity of the court.
01:22:52.000When they get into the judicial system and they are running these courts, they will have the same disdain for legal precedent.
01:23:01.000And they're going to be like, I have the power and I can do what I want, so shut your mouth.
01:23:05.000Well, I mean, because that's true, because I remember growing up in 2014, 2016, that whenever there was a freakout on a college campus from a social justice war or what have you, there was always that natural response to say, well, wait till they get to the real world.
01:23:22.000It's going to be a harsh reality and grow up.
01:24:34.000There's this thing called the, I keep seeing this.
01:24:36.000It's like the, uh, Oh, what's it called?
01:24:39.000The Council on Foreign Relations and all their the web of how they have people that are part of that that are also like the heads of media organizations.
01:24:46.000And there's like this awesome graphic.
01:24:48.000I actually tweeted it out a couple months ago.
01:24:50.000Alex Jones had it on the wall like a big poster when I went to his office.
01:24:55.000And it just shows how all these people are connected through this Council on Foreign Relations.
01:25:00.000And then this, I don't remember the third, Trilateral Commission.
01:25:02.000And the three of those businesses have so much influence on NBC, ABC, CBS, Disney.
01:25:09.000And then they're putting out this coherent message that doesn't seem like it's about fact-checking anymore.
01:25:15.000I think if you look at the media and how they've lost the plot, it shows you that millennials can't make the machines work.
01:25:21.000So how is it that these people keep falling for the same fake news stories?
01:25:25.000How is it that the press is less favorable than Congress or whatever?
01:25:30.000It's because the millennials who are inheriting it Don't know what people want to listen to.
01:25:34.000I'll mention that Politico story I was reading earlier where actually do I have I don't know if I have that tweet pulled up I don't where they were like a Democrat spoke to their colleagues about how inflation is the is the big issue for everyone and Democrats were shocked saying but I've not heard this at all and it's like if if if you did not know that people can't afford rent And you were shocked by that?
01:26:11.000I don't, I have someone go to the store for me and then they just crumple the receipt up and throw in the garbage.
01:26:16.000When they say our democracy, what they mean is you being ruled by people who have absolutely no understanding of what your actual concerns are.
01:26:26.000These people who don't know that inflation's a problem right now are the ones in charge, and if you don't want that to be the case, you don't support our democracy.
01:26:33.000When they say this is a danger to our democracy, they are not including you.
01:26:40.000Imagine there are two countries in the United States There's the freedom faction and the authoritarian faction.
01:26:46.000The authoritarians are talking to themselves.
01:26:49.000They say they are threatening our democracy.
01:27:05.000They live in a multicultural democracy.
01:27:07.000That's what's happening and both are trying to seize power.
01:27:09.000Well, I should say one is trying to seize power from the other side because it's always been a constitutional republic here in the United States.
01:27:16.000Yeah, no, it's an interesting question, right?
01:27:18.000Because when you say one side's trying to seize power, it's not exactly clear which side that is.
01:27:22.000We know the left has been pushing forward their revolution, but when you consider the fact that they have faced no legal consequences for the rioting in the street and other such illegal activities, you wonder if they're not the ones who are in control and it's the right which is attempting to seize power back.
01:27:38.000Well, and that's why, again, that's why it's so scary of where, of where this country is going in terms of, I mean, with, again, Roe, this whole Roe vs. Wade issue, because, yeah, there, I mean, there was protests tonight.
01:27:48.000I don't know how big they were, because, outside of the conservative Supreme Court justices' homes, again.
01:27:59.000Exactly, because the media has been excusing it, the White House was excusing it, and so if they think, okay, we can continue pushing these boundaries more and more, once it is actually overturned, it's not unreasonable to be concerned about, okay, well then they're going to take things to the next level.
01:28:16.000No one's been caught yet, but that's why.
01:28:19.000pregnancy centers that have been have been targeted and it's just they they're it's being ratcheted up and they're justifying it because of what happened in the 80s and 90s or whatever and to me to me it's it's it to me it feels like we're we're in this we're in this car that's just careening towards this this treat this massive tree trunk and no one wants to hit the brakes have you guys ever read I am legend Yes.
01:28:52.000Which is that in the book, they're actually explicitly labeled as vampires.
01:28:56.000It's not as much of a zombie movie as the film, but basically there's nobody left on earth except for this one man.
01:29:01.000And he pours vinegar on the steps of his house and it's surrounded by vampires every night who try to lure him out and get them to join them.
01:29:52.000So my point is, eventually there will come a time when either the Constitutional Republic is consumed by the vampiric multicultural democracy, or the other way around.
01:30:03.000If the Constitutional Republic loses, there will come a point where you are in your house surrounded by multicultural democracy, It will be unrecognizable. You have no constitutional
01:30:13.000rights and you will be the last remaining constitutionalist holding on to your flimsy tattered up
01:30:18.000piece of paper that you bought at auction for 10 bucks because nobody wanted the
01:30:21.000constitution anymore. And then you'll be like, that's it. These ideas have died out. Unless of course you
01:30:27.000preserve those ideas by having a family, having kids, building culture, challenging the
01:30:32.000establishment, speaking out and saying no to the vampires. Yeah, that's what you have to do. You
01:30:39.000think you can work with the vampires? No.
01:31:04.000There were shootings, and there was a dog, and then the dog died, and that was sad.
01:31:09.000Julio, we're gonna go to Super Chats pretty soon, but I was wondering about your book, because we talked about the riots a bit during the show.
01:31:14.000Was there anything in there that you wanted to talk about that was on your mind?
01:31:23.000I understand if you don't want to go to Amazon, but it's also on Barnes & Noble, Target, Books A Million, Thrift Books, and that's as far as I know.
01:31:33.000In all seriousness, it's just... This is supposed to be... It's obviously not the end-all, be-all source of riots, because I couldn't be everywhere at once.
01:31:45.000But to my knowledge, and I don't want to sound like I'm hyping myself up or blowing myself up too much, it's one of the first really attempts to jot everything down and accurately retell everything that happened in a written form.
01:32:00.000It is the greatest piece of American literature.
01:32:06.000Patriot's fact-checked that and they said yes.
01:32:08.000Yeah, I saw on PatriotWarrior1776.info it said it was the greatest book ever.
01:32:17.000And the reason why it's just so important is just because, again, that there was just so much media malpractice as it was happening, and especially in the aftermath of January 6th.
01:32:26.000I mean, the people who are supposed to be telling us our history and telling things as they are, they're saying no.
01:32:32.000January 6th is the only one that matters, and obviously I'm not minimizing it by any stretch of the imagination, but there were also all these other riots, and one of the greatest examples of that is a New York Times piece shortly after January 6th, and it was literally about, the premise was, Republicans are pointing to the BLM riots, and the line was something to the effect of, Republicans are using isolated instances of property damage, to what about January 6th?
01:32:58.000six and we're talking a minimum two billion dollars worth of damage
01:33:02.000multiple dozens of people were killed over this time period and in in you're
01:33:06.000gonna you're you're gonna minimize what their you're you the the
01:33:10.000author of the piece was doing the exact same thing that he was accusing
01:33:12.000republicans are doing and to me that's just that's just egregious
01:33:15.000And when we're talking about the gaslighting and the playbook that the media does is that, and they do this with every issue when it comes to making, if it makes liberals look bad or if they can make Republicans look bad, with like the example of the Florida parental rights bill, right?
01:33:29.000I mean, they were calling it Don't Say Gay and just completely mischaracterizing it.
01:33:33.000But that became canon in the eyes and minds of a lot of people because they didn't actually read the darn thing.
01:33:40.000They ran that same playbook because they always do it.
01:33:43.000But when it came to the riots, they still did that because of their hubris and their arrogance.
01:33:46.000They thought, well, we're just going to do what we've always done.
01:33:47.000But it's a lot harder to gaslight people and mislead people when there's whole neighborhoods on fire and there's mass lawlessness.
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01:34:10.000I think we're gonna be talking about the apocalypse, because there's a whole bunch of apocalyptic stuff happening in terms of droughts, and the economic collapse, and food shortages, but there's some new developments, and we'll talk all about that.
01:34:20.000And it's not very family-friendly, but I think you'll laugh, because we've had some pretty crazy conversations there.
01:34:40.000DepriveDolphin says, abortion industry is a money laundering scheme that just allows tax dollars to make their way to Democrat campaigns without anyone questioning why.
01:34:47.000Roe v. Wade will result in Democrat collapse.
01:35:17.000It's called an opinion from Ron Coleman and an opinion from me.
01:35:20.000And it's not about being right, it's about me saying I think they should be arrested, not that they will be, can be, or that it would be upheld.
01:35:29.000But yeah, I mean, look, I have my own opinions.
01:35:32.000All of the segments that go up on TimCast.com from this show and my show say opinion on them.
01:35:36.000It means, it's what I think should be, or could be, but not necessarily.
01:35:41.000The thing about opinions, people need to understand that something can sound like a fact, but it's an opinion, right?
01:35:47.000If someone were to say something like, Google is spying on conservatives, it sounds like a fact statement, like they're doing a thing, but it's actually legally an opinion.
01:35:56.000Because you're saying, like, I believe based on what I've seen.
01:36:00.000The challenge with fact statements is that it can be an opinion if it's something that's fairly nebulous or vague or hard to definitively prove.
01:36:40.000But what you're saying is you can have non-opinions without qualifiers.
01:36:44.000So there have been instances where someone has said something like, you know, TV personality does X. And you're like, wow, they're saying they did a thing.
01:36:54.000And then they argue, no, no, it's my opinion that they do this thing.
01:36:57.000And the courts are like, right, it's an opinion.
01:36:59.000So, can you prove Google actually spies on conservatives?
01:37:02.000Definitively, with evidence, you could.
01:37:55.000Legally, it's hard to have fact statements, but it sounds like you're making a fact statement, and technically you are, but if people don't agree on what words mean, then you get all sorts of crazy.
01:38:08.000Zach Kemp says, why can't we talk about allowing abortions, but requiring the doctors to do everything they can to save the life of the baby and charge the parents for medical procedures?
01:38:32.000The whole goal is we need to kill this child because we view them as a problem.
01:38:35.000Cost, if it's like, we're gonna remove the baby, there's a chance it'll live, it's gonna cost you $400,000, or you can abort it and it'll cost you $600.
01:40:15.000I was eating some breaded food the other night, and I was like, ah, I'm starting to get full, and I just sat there, I was kind of meditating, and I just heard, like, celiac.
01:40:22.000I thought, yeah, that's what happens, man.
01:40:24.000People dose on wheat flour, and then they get celiac.
01:40:27.000There's, like, trendy diet stuff, and I've never cared, so when I cut out the sugars, And then I was like, I'll have a little bit, because I'm not going crazy with it.
01:40:36.000I would have some bread and then feel sick.
01:40:40.000But I think I've collected enough data over the past, you know, since November, so about six months or so, of looking at what I've been eating and not eating and tracking the WHOOP data since I got it.
01:40:48.000And I'm like, dude, the days where I have wheat grains, my recovery drops.
01:41:15.000I don't know if you knew off the top of your head.
01:41:18.000Sometimes it's the stuff they spray the wheat with, like Monsanto uses a stuff called glyphosate, which is a chemical that they use.
01:41:25.000It's like an anti-fungal, anti-insecticide or insecticide.
01:41:29.000But what they also do is they use it as a desiccant, meaning they dry out the wheat by spraying it with this Roundup, this glyphosate, and then they harvest it.
01:41:37.000So if you're not getting organic wheat, you're very likely getting glyphosate induced right at harvest.
01:42:11.000But if I'm like, I'm not working out or whatever, and we're all out having a good time, I'll have a beer.
01:42:16.000And then, once I saw what happened on my recovery, after having beer and having wine, I was just like, I am never touching that stuff again.
01:42:23.000Like, when you can see the actual results the next day, and you're like, whoa!
01:44:06.000Well, people are always like, whenever someone says this, or someone says that, and I'm like, maybe they said it like three times in a short period, but they don't say it every show all the time.
01:44:14.000All right, Dragon Lady says, Tim, I ordered emergency food while watching your first segment today.
01:45:04.000Ruben, Ruben, Ruben says, Seamus, please make an animation of Biden chanting Ultra Maga in a cult-like setting as a shadowy society of, a shadowy specter of Trump grows over a pentagram.
01:45:16.000Then in the end, Biden will be relieved because finally has an actual enemy.
01:48:18.000I would say, if you're asking me, I can't speak specifically to the British experience and what might translate to life in America, but if I were going to start over in any state, I think I would pick Florida.
01:49:01.000I looked at Florida and I'm like, it's massively developed.
01:49:05.000They call Miami the capital of Latin America.
01:49:07.000And I'm like, it's great, they're doing great things for sure.
01:49:10.000Yeah, what's wrong with Latin America?
01:49:11.000No, I think it's fantastic what Florida's doing.
01:49:14.000I want to bring new jobs and new opportunity to West Virginia and start building culture and bringing economic power to people who share values with me, like liberty, personal responsibility, etc.
01:49:28.000I also love Georgia, where I spent several years of my life, but I'm sort of more thinking along the lines of, if I were to start over and go somewhere else, where would it be?
01:49:54.000So, there is no sin which is greater than Christ's sacrifice on the cross.
01:50:00.000If you are truly repentant of your sin, And also if you forgive the sins of others that have been committed against you, you can absolutely repent of that sin and confess.
01:50:12.000I would encourage meeting with and discussing with a Catholic priest if I understand there have been some in the past stipulations about whether you could be forgiven directly by a priest or whether there would need to be forgiveness by a bishop if I'm not mistaken.
01:50:43.000Well, I think it's any crime against humans.
01:50:44.000I think it's any crime that ends up killing a person.
01:50:46.000But I want to actually Google this so I can be sure.
01:50:50.000about these details and give her something more concrete.
01:50:53.000I'm just saying, like, the idea that there needs to be a hierarchical nature of the church to determine whether you can be forgiven for something you're repentant for seems a little odd to me.
01:51:00.000Well, I don't think it's the, um, I don't think it's a question of determining whether you can be forgiven.
01:51:07.000I think it's just a question of, like, who has the authority to forgive in that circumstance, because if you've incurred an excommunication, I think there's a different process for the forgiveness.
01:51:14.000But like I said, I really want to double check on this.
01:51:16.000This is the first I heard of the Year of Mercy, the Extraordinary Jubilee of Mercy.
01:51:32.000An incident where there was a centennial at a church where if you walked through the arches, all sins had been forgiven.
01:51:38.000And it was a serious risk to the creation of the universe because if Loki and Bartleby crossed through, they would be forgiven of their sins and allowed back into heaven, which would then prove God fallible and result in the undoing of the universe.
01:52:03.000Yeah, in Dogma, that's basically what happens.
01:52:06.000The church is like, we're gonna forgive all sins.
01:52:08.000Loki and Bartleby were, you know, banished from heaven, and if they get forgiven, they can go to heaven, and that would prove God fallible, which would undo the universe.
01:52:17.000And then they were just like, there's a point where, I think in the beginning, it's Ben Affleck and Matt Damon, and he's like, why would some priest claiming this be true actually allow us in?
01:52:28.000And then he's like, what you hold true on Earth, we hold true in heaven, or something like that.
01:53:03.000It is just really shocking to me when they're like, that impoverished child shouldn't live.
01:53:09.000And what they do is, there's a meme I saw where it's pro-lifer saying, we believe in life, you can't abort that baby.
01:53:17.000And then it's like nine months later and she's holding the baby and they're like, we're not going to provide you with anything, you're on your own, you loser or whatever.
01:53:23.000And I'm like, You know, it's a silly argument, because the same argument applies, that you're basically saying, like, that baby should be dead.
01:53:30.000You know, it's like, by all means, show the conservatives screaming, you'll get no handouts, you lazy person, and then, at the same time, show the liberals screaming, and that baby should be dead!
01:53:41.000Yeah, well, I've said this before, like, when witnessing a child poverty, the pro-lifer thinks the problem is the poverty, the pro-choicer thinks the problem is the child.
01:53:50.000Yeah, it's really just a crazy argument when they're like if you're poor the baby should die and I'm like, oh man, I Don't know about that.
01:53:59.000Well, it's like it's it's not like they're saying the baby was born now kill it They're saying the baby should never have been allowed to be alive because you're poor not even given it's like a chance It's a pretty they're like conservatives will will punish you for having the baby and won't support your baby's life abort it I'm like, I don't know, that sounds kind of weird, dude.
01:54:17.000No, some of my greatest role models grew up really, really poor.
01:54:20.000Some of them in the deep Jim Crow South.
01:54:22.000And I just wanted to say, I think that, oh, I saw a super chat earlier that was like, you know, if a mother, if a father can get rid of his parental responsibility and abortion is outlawed, can a mother do the same thing?
01:54:48.000Feminists would not want him to be able to do that.
01:54:50.000That's the thing, like the woman can literally give the baby away without telling the guy, but the guy cannot absolve himself of responsibility unless the woman says so.
01:56:27.000The Hylian Juggalo says Neil Shusterman's book series from 2007 called Unwind predicted a second civil war and where we are going in regards to abortion.
01:56:35.000Given we're talking about aborting born babies, get set for teen body harvesting.
01:57:11.000Well, and that's again, we're still very much dealing with the effects of those rides because people just saw how far they could take it.
01:57:18.000And so now it's like happening on a low intensity level with, because we're seeing the smashing grabs, like this spontaneous looting that happens with like five people and then they all run out because there's no consequence for that.
01:57:32.000But Dylan Atlatin says, I work retail, and a customer came in and lectured me
01:57:36.000on how the Z on Samsung's marketing boards are offensive.
01:57:41.000The customer equated it to a swastika with the letter Z.
01:57:44.000The hyper-politization of society is rampant.
01:57:47.000Yeah, well, you know, that's Russia, so.
01:57:49.000Nona, to give, says, after Daryl Davis tried to get Tim Keller, he's been a minister
01:57:56.000in New York City for 30 plus years, so should have good cultural insights.
01:58:01.000As a topic of discussion, how to forgive when a deservate apology is not forthcoming.
01:58:08.000Arduick says for Ian, does the media gaslight and get things wrong most of the time?
01:58:12.000Two, why do you believe the media about Kent State?
01:58:15.000ROTC building burned, police attacked day before.
01:58:19.000Day of, students threw rocks and fireworks at National Guard.
01:58:22.000Oh yeah, yeah, the kids were throwing stuff at the, I mean the adults I guess at that point were throwing stuff at the cops before, at the law before they fired.
01:58:28.000I don't know if the media's gaslighting, I mean I imagine that they are from the evidence I've seen.
01:58:31.000Throwing rocks at National Guard doesn't warrant a lethal response that killed bystanders.
01:58:51.000He's like the first Republican I've ever heard of who's like, I am going to do things and not just react to things.
01:58:55.000But I don't want to soften the word war.
01:58:56.000I think you, Seamus brought this up a couple weeks ago, not to soften these terms, because if we were really in a civil war, There'll be a lot more dead bodies.
01:59:52.000By the way, I found some information that I want to give to that Super Chatter from earlier, so I wanted to make sure to get this from a couple of sources.
01:59:58.000From what I'm reading, at the end of 2016, or at the end of the Year of Mercy, Pope Francis actually extended this ability, so as far as I understand, you can go to confession and confess something like that to a priest.
02:00:13.000So, I would absolutely encourage her to do so.
02:00:16.000Like I said, there's no sin that you have committed that is so horrible that God will not forgive you and he's given you the sacraments to be able to receive that absolution.
02:00:26.000So, God bless you and I will keep you in my prayers.
02:00:29.000All right, we'll get a couple more in here.
02:00:30.000HB Brian says, James O'Keefe just dropped FBI whistleblower.
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02:01:45.000Julio, you want to shout anything out?
02:01:47.000Yeah, no, I mean, thanks for having me again, and yeah, I really hope that, you know, for people who read it, I mean, it took a lot of work into it.
02:01:54.000I mean, it was certainly a labor of love, and it's kind of crazy that I'm a published author now.
02:02:00.000I never thought I would do that, so I just hope people read it and enjoy it.
02:02:03.000Soon-to-be New York Times best-selling author.
02:02:05.000I mean, I don't care about... I mean... Soon-to-be.
02:02:37.000Well, this is very... I like that the thing is sort of torn off, the clip is torn off, because I'm, you know... Well, it represents the realism.
02:02:47.000Because I am causing some threat to the system.
02:02:51.000People don't realize this, that Seamus actually draws by hand all of the cells and then he uses a camera from the 1930s mounted over a table to animate the show.
02:03:02.000So basically, yeah, so what happens is I draw all of the pictures with permanent markers so I don't get a second chance and then I color them all in and then we photograph pictures of them and then the animators who I've hired promptly just delete all of that and make something that looks way better every time.
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02:03:47.000It's looking really cool So it will give you the opportunity to upload videos to rumble YouTube your own personal server and then you've got it It's just like a YouTube dashboard style thing, but other people have theirs and then they can see your stuff You can see theirs you can you can it's like we're creating web 3 front-end technology and probably back-end technology, too I'm really excited to be part of it.
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