On this episode of the podcast, Alex Blumbergbergberg talks about the growing number of indictments of lawyers for Donald Trump, and what it means for the future of the Trump legal team. He also discusses the parallels between what happened on January 6th and the Bolshevik Revolution.
00:00:46.000Several hundred Trump supporters would breach the Capitol during the counting of Electoral College, which would result in federal agents raiding the homes of people across the country, even innocent people having their homes raided by feds.
00:00:59.000And ultimately, Donald Trump would not only be indicted in multiple jurisdictions, but the Democrat DOJ would be preparing indictments against his lawyers, and Democrats at the state level would have indicted his lawyers.
00:01:13.000If I were to tell you all that, you'd tell me I was crazy!
00:01:15.000I know for a fact because when I said in 2018 that what we are seeing on the ground will eventually find its way to the federal government, I was told that I was crazy.
00:01:24.000Mike Cernovich says that what we're seeing right now is akin to the massacre of Tsar Nicholas's family in the Bolshevik Revolution.
00:01:32.000But that happened, I believe that was a couple years after the actual revolution, or maybe a year or so.
00:01:36.000Not getting my timelines right on this one, but they brought them, locked them up, and then eventually said, you know what?
00:01:42.000We can't risk your family surviving, and then massacred his family.
00:01:47.000You know, we can say that it's a civil war, but I think maybe that's unfair considering that requires multiple factions actually in some kind of opposition to each other.
00:01:55.000What may actually be happening is more akin to the Bolshevik Revolution, but call it whatever you want.
00:02:00.000Democrats in various jurisdictions are using the weight of government to attack their political rivals to the extent that they have now in Georgia, this news came out, it dropped around 1 a.m.
00:02:11.000or so, They have indicted lawyers for Donald Trump.
00:02:15.000In fact, one of the lawyers for Trump is actually, at this point, not a big fan of Trump and fairly pro-DeSantis.
00:02:22.000There's a lot to talk about with this.
00:02:24.000There are many Trump personalities who started changing their tune a few months after January 6 and then a year or so after.
00:02:33.000They're all of a sudden on board DeSantis calling Trump a grifter and a conman.
00:02:37.000Take a look at the statements they made around or before January 6, when they were saying there was fraud, encouraging people to be active, encouraging people to go down on January 6.
00:02:47.000I believe that there are many personalities, lawyers, consultants, social media personalities, who knew that because they had advocated for what Trump was trying to do with his legal team, Because there are videos of them advocating for action on January 6th, they would find themselves indicted at some point.
00:03:10.000Likely going to be personalities who are in contact with Donald Trump's legal team, who then took to the airwaves, be it social media, digital, or television, terrestrial, and advocated for his plans, his policies, and for people to protest on January 6th.
00:03:24.000They'll say this was incitement and furtherance of the conspiracy.
00:03:27.000In Georgia, they're already saying that there are many, many more unindicted co-conspirators.
00:03:33.000In D.C., they're saying that there are a few unindicted co-conspirators, and we expect they will be indicted soon as well.
00:03:39.000I don't know where all this goes, but ladies and gentlemen, escalation seems to be the only place it can go.
00:03:45.000And maybe I'm wrong, and I'd love to be wrong, but every time something happens that's worse than it was a month ago, I say it seems like it'll get worse.
00:03:53.000I don't know what you call this period where Democrats in multiple jurisdictions are targeting the home of the former president, the former president, and his lawyers, anyone who represented him.
00:04:07.000We already know with the J6ers, many lawyers dropped them as clients or refused to take them on in the first place.
00:04:13.000So let's talk about all of that and a bit more.
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00:05:17.000Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Conservative Ant.
00:07:54.000I guess you can technically say that they were advisors because they gave him legal advice as lawyers, but that's constitutionally protected.
00:08:05.000They advised him, but they're lawyers.
00:08:07.000Former US President Donald Trump was hit with a sweeping fourth set of criminal charges on Monday when a Georgia grand jury issued an indictment accusing him of efforts to overturn his 2020 election laws to Democrat Joe Biden.
00:08:18.000It's a 98 indictment listing 19 defendants and 41 criminal counts.
00:08:22.000Now, last night we talked about how The Fulton County Court released the indictment against Donald Trump prematurely, took it down, called it a fictitious document, then denied it.
00:08:34.000Now what they're saying it was, it was a sample document and it accidentally got published.
00:08:40.000So, uh, they lied then or they're lying now, but take your pick.
00:08:44.000I think it's fairly obvious they were planning to indict Trump, uh, bring these charges against him well before a grand jury was convened.
00:08:51.000And more importantly, They could have done it years ago.
00:08:55.000It is being done today for political purposes.
00:08:58.000I want to show you the indictment and some of the more silly elements of it, but the seriousness of it can be explained right here on the front page.
00:09:31.000Interestingly, Jenna Ellis has been rather anti-Trump over the past several months and has been critical of him now, but also supporting DeSantis.
00:09:41.000Also, people are pulling up very old posts from her where she was very anti-Trump early on.
00:09:46.000Ray Smith, Robert Cheeley, Michael Roman, David Schaefer.
00:09:51.000David Schaffer, that one's actually fairly interesting, because he met with an alternate slate of electors, then told the press, all that matters is if the court cases proceed, they'll have an alternate slate of electors.
00:10:02.000For that, he's being criminally charged.
00:10:05.000Sean Still, Stephen Lee, Harrison Floyd.
00:10:08.000Trevian Cootey, this is funny because that's Kanye West's publicist.
00:10:15.000Apparently she had advocated on behalf of the Trump campaign to an election official that they should pursue an investigation into voting machines.
00:11:30.000Now, we can see exactly why Mike Pence refused to engage.
00:11:34.000I'm willing to bet they went to him and said, if you go along with this, You will be arrested, you will be charged, and we will destroy everything about your life.
00:11:42.000The interesting thing is, they kept making the argument the Vice President had no authority to do this, and then Mike Pence made the mistake of doing a TV interview recently where he said, I could have pushed the votes back and it would have gone to the state, to the House of Delegations, the House of Representatives.
00:12:00.000So he knew exactly what his authority and powers were.
00:12:03.000There were numerous articles written by left-wing personalities, journalists, where they explained, if Mike Pence rejected electoral votes, then House delegations would vote for the president.
00:12:16.000So Mike Pence, Democrats, the media, everybody began lying, saying he never had the authority to do so in the first place, which wasn't true.
00:12:22.000They then changed the laws later on to say, yeah, he can't do that.
00:12:27.000So what we were really looking at was nothing criminal, but legal theory.
00:12:31.000The next people, in my view, who will face criminal indictments.
00:12:37.000Television, media, political, high-level influential personalities who were in communication with Donald Trump or his lawyers, who then went on Twitter, YouTube, Fox News, whatever, and advocated for these election strategies, advocated for legal challenges and to find votes, advocated for the Dominion claims, and Additionally, those who encouraged protest on January 6th, and those who cheered on January 6th.
00:13:09.000There are a lot of people, I'm not going to name them, let this be their own business, that pre-January 6th were cheering, saying, yes, yes, people should go down, and saying that people should engage in certain behaviors.
00:13:27.000Some people actually cheered on what happened that day on social media, saying, why are people mad about this?
00:13:34.000Even at leftists, the Gravel Institute cheered for January 6th, not that they advocated for it.
00:13:41.000Months go by, a year goes by, and you may notice that some of these personalities became hardcore DeSantis supporters and absolutely anti-Trump.
00:13:50.000I think there's a very obvious reason why they were crying and shaking and begging in in hopes that if they turn on Trump, the DOJ, the state level prosecutors will overlook them and not criminally charge them.
00:14:06.000Now, I can't say who necessarily holds those.
00:14:10.000I think it's I think many of the people who turned on Trump probably felt that way.
00:14:16.000I'm not going to say I can tell you definitively any of these individuals.
00:14:19.000I will, however, point out Jenna Ellis, who turned on Trump recently, has been advocating heavily for Ron DeSantis and is now facing criminal charges and is trying to raise money.
00:14:29.000The sad thing here is that ardent Trump supporters are not the biggest fans of Jenna Ellis now, and so she has no support.
00:14:39.000She's raised a few thousand dollars for her legal defense.
00:14:55.000Like, if you supported that from the beginning, and then you, like, last minute ditch effort to, like, oh, I'm going to support DeSantis in hopes.
00:15:06.000I mean, obviously it doesn't matter, right?
00:15:09.000It's an ancient struggle session tactic to get someone to denounce their own views publicly before you serve their, before you take them to sentence.
00:15:17.000He spoke the truth until the moment he died.
00:15:21.000Some people, you know, it is an old, it is an old battle tactic, an authoritarian tactic to get the crowd, because then you can say, well, they admitted it, so.
00:16:06.000I want to read for you Act 22 of the indictment.
00:16:10.000They say on or about the third day of December 2020, Donald John Trump caused to be tweeted from the Twitter account at Real Donald Trump, quote, Georgia hearings now on OANN.
00:16:22.000This was an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy.
00:16:27.000Now, a lot of people have said there are a lot of provisions in here about tweeting and one was insulting Mike Pence, calling him a wimp or something like that, and that these were illegal activities.
00:17:10.000The fact that they're trying to prosecute I honestly think the fact that they're trying to prosecute people that were in any way in business with Trump or on Team Trump essentially boils down to, and this might seem a little hyperbolic, but essentially boils down to the same reason that they just smoked a dude in Utah.
00:17:31.000I think that the 75-year-old dude that was making threats about the president, they could have wrapped him up.
00:18:26.000Taking care of you, your issues, they can do that and still do all the same stuff that they have planned.
00:18:33.000So it's not some kind of problem for them to shut people up or to shut people down or to intimidate people into silence.
00:18:41.000Do you think there were any personalities who got visits from Democrats, law enforcement, and were told, you're going to come out against Donald Trump or we're going to come after you?
00:18:50.000And probably the bigger personalities, right?
00:18:53.000I don't think... Yeah, the big personalities.
00:18:56.000But then it trickles down a little bit too, because then you have the small time, right?
00:19:01.000Someone like me who's on Instagram or any of us that are on other social media platforms that, by the way, the Biden administration is using young Gen Z influencers to his advantage where we don't, where the conservatives don't.
00:19:23.000I honestly do think this is all about intimidation.
00:19:26.000I think that the reason that, like I said, that the dude in Utah got smoked, I think the reason they're going after all of the people that were associates of Trump and stuff like that, I think that it's something that the establishment wants.
00:19:39.000Look, they've said clearly after January 6th, there were members, former members of the intelligence apparatus.
00:19:49.000I think it was Brennan was the guy that was on.
00:19:51.000But he was talking, he's like, anyone that has anti-government opinions or feelings, everyone in America that is right of center to some degree is anti-government.
00:20:06.000They want smaller government, even people that are like establishment.
00:20:12.000They're ostensibly smaller government, but like anyone that's like a MAGA person or a libertarian or any kind of anarchist or independence that want to limit the military-industrial complex or people that want to limit the security state and the surveillance apparatus, all of those people are the enemy of the government now.
00:20:33.000But the problem is, I want a healthy government, and if that means it needs to slim down because the government has become obese, I'm okay with the government going on a workout program.
00:20:54.000Well, Vivek Ramaswamy suggests that we cut the FBI, I think it's the FBI, and then send a lot of the, you know, fire a lot of the administrative guys, you know, but then move a lot of the necessary pieces to other parts of government.
00:21:07.000Homeland Security, CIA, Department of Energy.
00:21:10.000He has it listed, in fact, and I retweeted it.
00:21:22.000We gotta call him the Cake Man because it's Vivek like cake.
00:21:26.000We gotta call him the Cake Man to get people to remember.
00:21:30.000Anybody that runs or anybody that has an opposing opinion from This is my opinion from this current administration or the left is Automatically just they're like no no no no because they've now thrown out all these racist homophobic Xenophobic like all these words if you're for some reason anti-government We're seeing it now that people are thinking that the American flag makes you racist and like
00:21:58.000It's just, it's a never-ending problem.
00:21:59.000No matter who you are, if you come out against the current administration, you're wrong.
00:22:45.000I don't like, I don't want, I mean, well, I mean, obviously I'm as a libertarian kind of leaning kind of guy, I want the small, the smaller government.
00:22:52.000So as much cutting as you can do, I'm going to be down with, so.
00:23:02.000There's a handful of acts in this in furtherance of the conspiracy.
00:23:07.000One of them is a good example, Act 156.
00:23:09.000Donald John Trump committed the felony offense of solicitation of violation of oath by public officer when he said to Brad Raffensperger, a public officer, Quote, decertify- I'm sorry, he said- I want to make sure they- I'll just read it.
00:23:25.000Public officer, he asked him to engage in conduct constituting the felony offense of violation of oath by public officer by unlawfully, quote, decertifying the election or whatever the correct legal remedy is and announce the true winner in willful and intentional violation of the terms of the oath of said person as prescribed by law.
00:23:42.000That's probably the perfect example of what this is.
00:23:45.000Donald Trump said to the Secretary of State, engage in the correct legal remedy for what is going on.
00:23:53.000And that is a violation of your oath of office or solicitation of a violation of oath of office to ask someone to enact correct legal remedies.
00:24:02.000In fact, he said, do a thing, which may or may not have been legal, or the correct legal remedy.
00:24:08.000Meaning, if the thing was illegal, you instead do the correct legal remedy.
00:24:12.000So how is asking someone to do a legal remedy illegal?
00:24:33.000I've seen people engaged in free speech be criminally charged with disorderly conduct.
00:24:38.000That's a charge they can slap on anyone for any reason at any time.
00:24:43.000And then they can arrest you, remove you, and then maybe you go to court and you say, Your Honor, I was just speaking and the judge says, okay, you're free to go, but you still got locked up.
00:24:52.000If you don't get bail, you could be in there for a month or longer.
00:24:55.000If you get locked up on the weekend, on a Friday, you're there over the weekend.
00:24:59.000That sounds, what you just read about that, of him asking a guy to do the legal remedy, and then they're saying that what he did was illegal by asking that guy to do a legal thing?
00:25:07.000I don't, I still don't understand that.
00:25:09.000Maybe that's because there's something in there that was... Here's another good one.
00:25:13.000Byron York says, It has to lead to an illegal act eventually, doesn't it?
00:25:52.000I'm looking forward to getting a monitor in here cuz I gotta I gotta read this So and they want this to go all the way up, you know They want to prolong this for as long as possible because ultimately they don't want Trump to the Republicans.
00:26:05.000Well, maybe both They want to preserve order.
00:26:08.000So the Democrats want definitely want Trump and I mean, I don't know I mean, I don't have a whole lot of faith in Trump's ability to win.
00:26:19.000If he's the nominee, I'll vote for him.
00:26:21.000I'm going to vote for whoever is not the Democrat, not Biden.
00:26:26.000But I don't see that he's going to make a whole lot of, especially with all of the indictments, I don't see that he's going to be bringing a lot of people over.
00:26:37.000You don't think that this motivates people more to want to vote for him?
00:27:49.000There are a lot of people who are terminally online and, uh, these activists online say things like touch grass and it's like, bro, you are a leftist on Twitter who does nothing but just, we, like, I'm, I'm going, we, we go out on the weekends to various different middle, middle of nowhere places often.
00:28:06.000And, you know, we talk to people who ask them questions and I found something really interesting between, with friends of friends, uh, extended family members and just people out in the general public.
00:28:17.000People that I know a couple years ago who are passively anti-Trump have become passively anti-Democrat.
00:28:24.000Doesn't necessarily mean they're going to vote for Trump.
00:28:26.000But a few years ago, you know, we're coming on the back end of the COVID lockdowns and the pandemic and all that, they were very much on board with the corporate narrative.
00:28:36.000Then you kind of destroy the economy, destroy their trust, force them to do things they don't want to do, lock them in a box.
00:28:41.000And now I'm talking to some of these people and they're saying things that are passively anti-establishment, anti-democrat.
00:28:47.000So I don't know where they end up voting, but if Donald Trump becomes the, once again, the avatar of the anger and frustration of these people, he gets their vote.
00:28:57.000Someone tweeted a good point that people aren't necessarily voting for Trump.
00:29:01.000They're voting for what the machine hates the most and fears.
00:29:09.000He talked about basically about Joe Biden and he could count on the Biden crime family talking about 20 million that they got from, geez, was it China or Ukraine?
00:29:17.000Where's, Bidens are getting their money from all over foreign states.
00:29:21.000And like that's what people are voting against.
00:29:23.000I think when you're talking about voting against the narrative, it's voting against a president who had a son.
00:29:28.000Our president's son was on the board of a, uh, in a random country on earth, some Ukraine, halfway across earth.
00:29:34.000The president's son was on a energy board in some crazy foreign country.
00:30:12.000Now she's getting roasted by Trump's most ardent supporters.
00:30:14.000We've got this tweet from Laura Loomer.
00:30:16.000Professional liar and Trump backstabber Jenna Ellis was indicted last night.
00:30:20.000For the last several months, she has been attacking Donald Trump online with Team DeSantis.
00:30:24.000She betrayed Donald Trump, I personally think she intentionally sabotaged him because I can't fathom how anyone can be as stupid as she is, and decided to support Ron DeSantis instead.
00:30:32.000She's been attacking Trump online for having his PAC pay his legal fees, even though his supporters are more than happy to donate to the cause.
00:30:38.000Jenna has called Trump supporters grifters, and she's been retweeting other DeSantis supporters who attacked Donald Trump.
00:30:44.000Now she is crying online begging Trump supporters to donate to her legal defense fund.
00:30:48.000Laura goes on and calls her vile and a liar.
00:30:51.000But I do think it's really interesting.
00:30:54.000I'm not going to say I can speak for Jenna Ellis personally, specifically.
00:30:59.000But there are many people Who, hey, go look at their YouTube videos, go look at things they said when they were guests on TV shows.
00:31:08.000Who advocated for action on January 6th, who advocated for Donald Trump's legal actions, who advocated for alternate slates of electors and all of these things.
00:31:18.000Directly demanding it be done, saying that people should occupy or people should do this, that or otherwise.
00:31:24.000How long do you think until Democrats in various jurisdictions start going after them saying that they were inciting and encouraging and those that were in communication with Donald Trump were acting in furtherance of the conspiracy?
00:32:12.000What is the thing that makes someone say, we don't escalate, we don't take it to the next obvious level?
00:32:19.000Federal law enforcement raided the home of some woman in Alaska because she looked like another woman who went into the Capitol.
00:32:25.000If they are willing There's a man locked up right now, it's been two and a half years, without charge or trial, because he won't disavow Donald Trump.
00:32:40.000If they're willing to do that to random people...
00:32:43.000Are you saying that they would just decide, like, well, this guy's got a million followers on, you know, Twitter or whatever, and he was telling people to go there and engage in this behavior.
00:32:51.000You think they're going to ignore Alex Jones?
00:32:53.000Well, if random... Alex Jones was leading one of the rallies outside the Capitol building.
00:33:26.000That they have gone to people's homes that weren't even at Jan 6 and that's to your point What if I did a podcast two years ago, and I said yeah, I really don't care what happened on January 6 like Sure, it was fine.
00:33:40.000They can just come to you and come knock on your door and say hey you Because you agreed with what happened on j6.
00:33:48.000We're taking you in well I think more likely they're gonna go to the individuals that pre January 6 Who were telling people to go there, and there are a lot of quotes that I won't say, but they were people who were advocating for direct action at the Capitol.
00:34:05.000Not that these people were never there, but they're going to say that they were inciting insurrection.
00:34:12.000More importantly, there are high-profile personalities who were in direct communication with Trump and his legal team and then went on TV or YouTube or whatever and said, either as guests or hosts, this is the plan, this is what they're doing, it's totally legal, and everyone should support them for it.
00:34:28.000They're going to say, that person was part of the conspiracy.
00:34:32.000Trump told them we need to build support, use your platform to encourage everyone to help us, and they're gonna say it was a conspiracy.
00:34:36.000There might be people that wanted a march on the Capitol, and a siege of the Capitol, and then a prevention of the legal process.
00:35:05.000If they're willing to go after some 60-year-old dude who walked around outside and didn't even go in the building.
00:35:11.000There are people who are criminally charged who never entered the building, but they were on the grounds, and that's good enough.
00:35:17.000If they're gonna go after them, to the extent where they went to a woman's house in Alaska, and she wasn't even in the building, and raided her home.
00:35:25.000She was actually in Washington, though.
00:35:26.000She was in Washington at the Trump speech or whatever, but she never went in the Capitol building.
00:35:32.000She looked like someone because she had a similar coat, so they raided her house.
00:35:35.000Well, there's people that were saying that there were hot dog vendors there, there were people that were playing music.
00:35:40.000They went for people that were on the outskirts of all of this that was going on.
00:35:46.000If you were in a picture, oh, we know that, we see that person, we're gonna go ahead and you're arrested, we're closing your bank account down, we're doing this, doing that, locking you up, whatever, whatever they did to him, I have no idea, I wasn't there.
00:36:00.000But I will say this, as an influencer online, Was I asked by followers?
00:36:09.000I didn't think it was gonna go that way I thought it was gonna go like a totally different way We're like we were gonna get hurt because people didn't like Trump supporters.
00:36:17.000So I was like, I'm good on this one I would recommend you guys don't go right because maybe we'll get hurt But they could go after all the little guys like myself at the time that might have been like go there Let's go there.
00:36:34.000I think it's gonna be bigger personalities because as we move into 2024, their goal is to silence anyone who would provide public support for Trump.
00:36:49.000Then they're going to target moderate to large personalities who are in the Trump periphery, who are advocating for and supporting Trump's presidency because they want to hurt that.
00:36:59.000They want people to fear supporting Trump.
00:37:02.000And there are a lot of people who used to be the most ardent Trump supporters who turned on a dime and are now saying Trump's a grifter and a conman and DeSantis is the light in the way.
00:37:12.000And I just think that's very, very funny because I think these people posted YouTube videos You know, where they were very, very on board with Trump, and now all of a sudden they're panicking.
00:37:26.000You know, I've heard, there's background talk, and I try to avoid saying stuff like this, but I'm sure most of you who are listening have heard something to this effect.
00:37:35.000That people believe Ron DeSantis is a deep state plant.
00:37:40.000Donald Trump supported Ron DeSantis, so whatever.
00:37:43.000But there are people who believe that DeSantis is supported by deep state elements, by these, you know, uniparty fundraisers, so that he can be the safe landing for Trump supporters, an off-ramp for them.
00:38:16.000But then when Trump comes back, Ron can't manage the campaign, and then he fumbles.
00:38:19.000But there are a lot of people who believe that.
00:38:22.000And again, I'm not saying that's true.
00:38:24.000I'm saying that when you backdoor private conversations with people involved in politics, their attitude is you see the people who begin funding Ron DeSantis, and it looks like they're hoping he can be more controllable than Trump, and Trump supporters will back him.
00:38:39.000Well, the only way you're going to get a Trump supporter to not support Trump is do all this other stuff that we're talking about to him, because then you won't have a choice if he's not on the ticket, right?
00:38:54.000Then by default, then you would go for someone like DeSantis.
00:38:57.000Trump isn't going to lose his current supporters.
00:39:14.000And the only way you're gonna get those, sorry, but the only way you're gonna get... I mean, I love him.
00:39:19.000Like, I love what he did for the country.
00:39:21.000So, for me, I never wavered from that.
00:39:24.000I'm Floridian so I think Ron DeSantis needs to fix what Hurricane Ian did to us last year before he starts running around the country doing all this presidential stuff.
00:39:33.000But you have to get rid of Trump somehow in order for his supporters to not have him to vote for.
00:39:40.000There are instances of people that are like, well, Vivek's younger, smarter, faster, and he wants to continue what some of the policies Trump was doing.
00:39:48.000I'm going with the younger, smarter candidate.
00:40:07.000The big part of where Trump's misgivings is that people don't like him.
00:40:11.000That he's alienated and insulted so many people that behind the scenes are like, yo, get rid of that guy, he's an asshole.
00:40:15.000Like, we don't want... That's the same thing that happened to Socrates.
00:40:18.000I'm not gonna brag about Socrates all night, but that's the same thing.
00:40:20.000Socrates, brilliant man, poor social skills.
00:40:23.000Pissed off too many people in high up positions.
00:40:25.000So, that's a problem with temperament.
00:40:26.000And you need to be a grand unifier presidential... I want to read this tweet from Mike Cernovich.
00:40:33.000We have an initial tweet from J. Michael Waller who said, not even the Soviet Communist Party did this type of legal weaponization during its last years in power.
00:41:09.000But I don't know if civil war is a fair way to assess it, because we may not be in active war, as some people describe it, but I think at the fundamental definition of multiple factions fighting over control of government, you are certainly in something akin to that.
00:41:25.000And many people say, well, maybe it's a cold civil war, and that's a fair point as well, or it could just be a Bolshevik communist or communist revolution.
00:41:32.000I've said a bunch of times I think that we're in the middle of a cultural revolution in the United States, similar to the one that happened in China.
00:41:42.000Communists are involved, that's for sure.
00:41:44.000Yeah, the thing is that it's not communist like, you know, back in the day, like the philosophies have evolved.
00:41:50.000So this is a, you want to call it neo-communist or something like that, neo-Marxist, that's fine because it's a new version, it's based...
00:41:58.000You know, there's, it's like there's multiple different kind of, it's almost like it's a religion, one overarching religion, and there's different sects of it, you know what I mean?
00:42:08.000So I'm not, like, I know I've seen on Twitter there are people that are upset that you said that and stuff, but it's like, I've kind of felt like we're in the middle of a, not an actual civil war, obviously, because there's not, you know, Considerable violence in the street between warring factions, but we are in an information war.
00:42:51.000We are not in a Civil Cold Civil War, because there's not gunfights over territory with factions fighting the United States government, fighting each other.
00:42:59.000There's an information war going on, I agree with that.
00:43:38.000They see that and they are like, that is all Banana Republic shit.
00:43:42.000And no matter how much Bill Kristol and the morons at the New York Times want to shove their head in the sand and swear up and down that America's different, the rest of the world sees right through their horseshit.
00:43:55.000Because only Unreliable and furthermore, again, the fact that this makes America look unreliable only hurts the dollar when it's never been weaker, when we've never had more debt, when we've never had a
00:44:11.000Well, it's been a long time since we've had the type of income inequality that we do have in the U.S.
00:44:18.000There are a lot of problems that all of this stuff only makes worse, you know?
00:44:23.000So I don't see... Stephen Marsh says that we're in civil strife, which is the period that occurs right before a civil war happens.
00:44:39.000Most people just don't track these things.
00:44:42.000But what people also don't realize, and I have to say this every single time, there was a revolution in Egypt.
00:44:47.000Two of them, actually, within like a span of a year of each other.
00:44:50.000If you went to the mall, you wouldn't know anything was going on.
00:44:53.000And because of this, people watch movies, And they think civil war means you look out your window and guys in uniforms are marching down the street.
00:45:03.000Go watch the videos of the Syrian civil war where you see people walking around with groceries and going grocery shopping.
00:45:09.000People don't stop surviving and living and doing basic things like eating food and going to the grocery store simply because somewhere there's fighting going on.
00:45:17.000When I worked for Vice, we wanted to do this documentary on Syria, this is like the peak of the civil war, because in Damascus they were advertising tourism.
00:45:26.000In the United States, we were getting ads for Damascus nightlife, and we thought that would be absolutely wild to go to Damascus and document how people were just living their lives while there's like sarin gas attacks happening 50 miles away, highways being taken over, people were blowing each other up with shells and there's snipers everywhere, but in the city, You wouldn't have known, for the most part.
00:45:50.000So because of, I think, condensed history and movies, people assume that there can't be any kind of warfare because the average person is going grocery shopping.
00:46:00.000And I'm like, yeah, that's what I witnessed in every place I've been to.
00:46:03.000So does the southern border or any of the crime in any major city, any of that other stuff contribute to the current civil war?
00:46:21.000The southern border, I think, is the biggest, the biggest component that people should consider when it comes to the escalation into Civil War.
00:46:28.000Let's say that by hard definitions, we are in civil strife, as Stephen Marsh described it in his book titled The Next Civil War.
00:46:36.000He's actually a, he described himself as a multicultural democracy kind of guy and more in favor of the liberal worldview, so be it, and he says we're not quite in civil war yet, civil strife.
00:47:20.000Eventually, you're going to have people say, the federal government has abandoned us.
00:47:25.000There's no law enforcement down here, and the drug and human traffickers are running rampant.
00:47:31.000We've already had, what do they call themselves, the minute men in the past in various militia groups.
00:47:36.000At what point do they actually then just assert territory and all of a sudden, this could already be happening right now, by the way, because these stories have been persistent for the past 10 years or so.
00:47:47.000Right now, there could be a faction of people on a certain point of the southern border, say Arizona, Arizona's probably a good state for it, that there's open border, barrier-less border, and they don't recognize federal authority because the federal government's abandoned them.
00:48:02.000Like, I'll put it this way, they're not actively planting flags and saying there's no government, they're saying, that doesn't pertain to us, I don't care.
00:48:09.000They then start acting on their own behalf.
00:48:12.000What happens when one of these groups sees someone smuggling children, traffickers, which happens a lot, all the time, and they stop these traffickers, a gunfight breaks out and they kill these guys, and then the federal government tries to arrest them?
00:48:26.000The thing about civil war is that it's not going to be... People have this view of civil war because of the American Civil War that it'll be two factions who will all sign treaties together and various states will be like, we're all working together and shake hands.
00:48:36.000When in reality, it's going to be various factions within states.
00:48:40.000And if you take a look at how Syria devolved into civil war, it was various factions fighting the government and they all had different perspectives and views and eventually started coming together and I think that was the Free Syrian Army.
00:48:51.000We could see something similar where you have pockets, you have groups that feel the federal government is derelict or is illegitimate.
00:49:01.000The indictments against Donald Trump at the federal level, if Trump is removed from the ballot, how soon until sentiment grows in various rural areas where they're like, we don't answer to you anymore, you are not the government.
00:49:12.000It takes only 10 guys or so to assert that ideology, that worldview, that if Donald Trump is removed from the ballot, then whoever is in office is not the actual government.
00:49:33.000That just leads to rapid destabilization.
00:49:35.000The Soviet Union only lasted 69 years.
00:49:37.000Perhaps we get a Bolshevik-style revolution in the United States, Democrats and their crackpot neo-Marxists gain power, and it lasts 30 years.
00:49:45.000Or maybe, when that does happen, you will get various roaming factions of individuals in rural areas that don't answer to the federal government anymore, and the federal government can't contain them and starts to ignore them.
00:49:56.000People need to understand, the amount of personnel in the federal government is not large enough to contain widespread unrest, not at the urban level, but at the rural level, where people are just simply saying, we don't answer to you.
00:50:10.000Or they put up checkpoints, or they just outright stop paying taxes or something like that.
00:50:14.000I mean, didn't, didn't they set up, like, what, was it CHAZ a thing?
00:50:17.000Remember when they set up that whole... Yeah.
00:51:09.000And I don't want to conflate it necessarily, that was a different circumstance, but imagine there's swaths of federal land that are completely, you know, unused, but it's federal land, and a group of guys are just like, we're going to start utilizing this, we don't recognize the authority of the government, what's the government going to do?
00:51:23.000Imagine they show up and drone strike, as Ian suggests.
00:51:27.000That reaction will result in more people having their confidence shattered in government.
00:51:31.000Ammon Bundy was arrested three days ago.
00:51:42.000Arrest warrant since mid-April after an Ada County, Idaho judge found him in contempt of court for refusing to show up to legal proceedings.
00:52:19.000If a guy showed up to your house, Let's say you got an acre in a suburban area or a rural area.
00:52:24.000And one day, a guy being carried in one- What are those things called where it's got the sticks and the guys carry it and the guy sits in the middle?
00:53:09.000Most people don't know what a comptroller is.
00:53:11.000So if someone shows up with a badge and says they're in charge, a lot of people right now are just like, okay.
00:53:17.000We still do have in the United States people being like, look, I don't know who you are, show me a warrant, but a lot of people just submit.
00:53:22.000The point comes when there will be a legitimate law enforcement officer from an agency no one's heard of or doesn't care about, or even from, let's say, like the FBI, and people just don't respect them because they feel.
00:53:35.000When the FBI goes after Donald Trump in this way, and they see on news that it appears to be completely political and illegitimate, they say, these people aren't actually enforcing the law anymore.
00:53:46.000The only reason why you'd agree to do anything they say is out of fear of death.
00:53:51.000Well, there's a lot of people that don't.
00:53:56.000So what happens when there's a morbidly obese 70-year-old guy who's posting online that he's going to take action against the government in very serious ways that people should not do?
00:55:22.000We're having a global revolution right now of artificial intelligence, of conscious, just the way people think since the Internet's been developed, the way people interface with each other, and we need a government to catch up to that.
00:55:34.000Mike Cernovich made a really important point.
00:55:36.000He said, did you know that the Republicans currently have a comparable majority to what Nancy Pelosi had when she was targeting Trump with all of these proceedings?
00:55:47.000The Republicans just have to have the nuts to do something.
00:55:59.000He is standing in front of your face with a shit-eating grin, smiling, saying, I'm here for you, while holding his hand behind his back with his fingers crossed.
00:56:08.000It takes balls to look into the eyes of an American citizen and say, I'm working for you, but knowing deep down inside you are lying, desperately trying to protect the uniparty establishment.
00:56:19.000Yeah, I look, I think also there's a shift to when you start to see what's going on in
00:56:26.000Hawaii right now and the negligence of Joe Biden and how they're responding to, you know,
00:56:36.000the effort to get them supplies and money and like the local government.
00:56:39.000Like I think that things that Joe Biden is also dropping the ball on is another push
00:56:46.000for people to be like, yeah, I, I'm just done with this guy.
00:56:49.000Like Trump comes out with, you know, a statement yesterday and does what like three minute
00:57:06.000But I feel like this is like a call up the Navy.
00:57:08.000Strategy where you like mobilize the Navy to protect and preserve that area of the United States because not only are people suffering 1,300 people still haven't been found 70 people have been declared dead or something like that The entire city of Lahaina has been burned to the ground for the most part.
00:57:22.000Not only that it's a national defense Vulnerability to have a broken area of your country that's not functioning.
00:57:46.000And there's also a push to... I know that people are pretty aware that the definitions of words have been shifting considerably the past, you know, 5-10 years.
00:58:31.000None of your rights are protected if you're on stolen property.
00:58:33.000That means you have no right to that property anymore.
00:58:36.000And so now, I'm not saying that that's exactly what's going on, that that's the intent behind it, but that could be a very happy side effect that people could use to go after people's property.
00:59:06.000Mexico and Canada would split a faction.
00:59:08.000It seems to be silly nonsense, but I bring it up because I don't think a revolution is possible in the United States because the country is much too big.
01:00:19.000Why would I assume the Trump supporters would say less?
01:00:25.000I can't just... No, the assumption is clear.
01:00:28.000There's no off-ramp, as you said earlier, Phil.
01:00:30.000The likelihood is that in 2024, you are going to have...
01:00:35.000Insane disputes over who are the official electors because Trump supporters feeling slighted from 2020 are going to be out in force with, and I'm talking about lawyers, documents filed pre, during, after.
01:00:48.000And then you're going to have legal challenges to a certified slate of electors.
01:00:51.000There's going to be 300 legal challenges in the courts that aren't going to be resolved in time.
01:00:55.000And they're going to go, how do we count something that's currently in legal dispute?
01:00:59.000The judges would have to just throw all of the lawsuits off the docket, which they can't just do.
01:01:08.000I don't see Democrats and Republicans just being like, well, you know, let me know what you think with the ballots and then we'll see who the president is.
01:01:17.000You're going to have various factions on left and right lodging lawsuit after lawsuit in various jurisdictions before, during, and after the election.
01:01:24.000And then what's going to happen is various different news sources that are at odds with each other will report various different things.
01:01:30.000And you'll have people in some areas being like, I'm hearing the Democrats won, but the Republicans have electors too.
01:01:36.000The state legislators certified the Republicans, but the media said the Democrats won.
01:01:45.000Well, you said earlier that you thought it would be impossible for a revolution to occur in the United States, and I guess I gotta define... No, no, no, hold on.
01:01:51.000What I'm saying is... Challenging because of the size?
01:01:59.000There's no point where the entire country just says, Revolution!
01:02:02.000Now we're under the rule of When I say revolution, I'm not always talking about a change in government from a democracy or from a republic to a communist state.
01:02:12.000I'm not talking about necessarily like that.
01:02:20.000We're going to change the minds of the people.
01:02:23.000But I do think that can be done for good as well.
01:02:26.000And it can happen quickly with the internet.
01:02:28.000I have such a problem with that kind of like changing minds because that's trying to manufacture consent or trying to get everybody on the same page.
01:02:39.000The ability that humans have to influence people is only either coercion or it's just through argumentation.
01:03:01.000You can entertain people Entertaining people and convincing people to believe in your philosophy is totally different.
01:03:12.000And the idea that you could get someone just on a stage to use charisma to convince people, that's a bad thing too.
01:03:21.000Because Hitler was super charismatic, but he was also a genocidal maniac.
01:03:26.000So you can't just say, oh, this person makes me feel good.
01:03:30.000Like I was saying earlier today, My philosophy is fundamentally an Enlightenment philosophy because I believe that we can interact with reality, we can see reality, and we can test things, and we can reason proper results.
01:03:45.000And if we just go by feeling and just by saying, oh, this guy really moves me, Then you get you end up with Barack Obama.
01:03:52.000Everybody that voted for Barack Obama for voted for hope and change.
01:04:28.000The votes for Barack Obama were very much votes for his charisma and stuff like that.
01:04:33.000And, you know, there were a lot of things that changed from when he was running to when he was in office and stuff.
01:04:39.000So, you know, I mean, that that is true.
01:04:41.000But you still like we need to have people that we need to be able to reason.
01:04:45.000Not just get wrapped up in, we feel this way, and we want to have this kind of emotional reaction, and try to connect with people, and convince them, and get everybody fired up.
01:04:55.000I mean, you do want people that are motivated, that agree with you, but you want people that have reasoned their way to their decisions, not responded emotionally, you know?
01:05:05.000I think, and I should say, that if someone could stand up on a stage, fully charismatic, get everyone's hearts aligned, and then provide them a blueprint of strategy, technically, of how to solve the system, and put it out of their hands, they've galvanized the populace to focus on an idea that's outside of the person.
01:09:03.000They're charging Trump and his lawyers for reaching out to state legislature.
01:09:08.000One of the acts is that they reached out- lawyers reached out to the legislature and said, you guys should vote on this and choose who you think should actually win based on the discrepancies.
01:09:18.000They said, that's solicitation of a violation of oath of office.
01:09:23.000They're saying because Donald Trump had lawyers go and make the legal argument that they should take the constitutional path of upholding their absolute legislative power to determine who gets the electors, they said that's a violation of both offices.
01:09:42.000So the Democrats had alternate electors and faithless electors.
01:09:45.000You're also just now you're just arguing to degrees not whether or not I'm arguing that you're allowed to question elections the United States.
01:09:51.000Again, we're the point is that's why Trump is not allowed to because Trump is being prosecuted and Stacey Abrams has done this and Hillary Clinton is already so are you it's the way it's the way Trump.
01:10:02.000There are ways that can get you thrown in jail of questioning the election, yes.
01:10:07.000Yes, and Jenna Ellis, one of the indicted co-conspirators, was only charged on counts one and two, which is, I think, violating the oath of public office, and RICO.
01:10:15.000They're literally saying because she worked for Trump, she's guilty of conspiracy.
01:11:22.000Well, like, you could literally just be the lawyer for Donald Trump and they'll charge you with conspiracy.
01:11:25.000Yeah, but I think my theory, or my hypothesis, if he hadn't told people to go to the Capitol on Jan 6th, none of this would be happening right now.
01:11:34.000But that's, it's literally, many other groups and organizations did that worse.
01:11:40.000Like, I'm not saying it was right, but I'm also saying there's other organizations and groups that did that also At the Capitol, like they burnt down a church.
01:12:21.000I think of it as if you don't care, if you really don't find some kind of spiritual fulfillment in finding your enemies forgiven, if you don't get that, then think of it as a hostage negotiation.
01:12:32.000And you want those Jan 6 prisoners out, so you pardon them, and then you want Hunter Biden pardoned as the hostage exchange.
01:12:46.000I kind of think of it more like there's a guy running around setting fires, and Ian is like, if you please promise not to do it again, we won't put you in jail.
01:14:56.000Because the people that are attacking it are doing exactly what he says they're doing.
01:15:03.000It's the, it's the champagne social, the idea of the champagne socialist, the rich urban people, and those are the people that, while they talk a good game about the working man, when a working man, you know, or an ostensibly not wealthy, not cosmopolitan person, is sitting there singing a song about the struggles that they're noticing in their lives.
01:15:28.000All they do is dump all over him, call him all kinds of names.
01:15:32.000And it really, he really, the lyrics really do tap into things that are on a lot of people's minds.
01:15:38.000But the people on the left, I mean, they feel like it's attacking them.
01:15:43.000And they're the ones that are making it about them because it doesn't specify.
01:15:50.000Yeah, obviously there's a whole lot of insecurity when it comes to the line about Epstein Island and stuff, but it's not particularly right-leaning in policy, but it is culturally right, and that's why Cultural leftists really hate it, and I enjoy reading the people that hate on it, because it's exactly what you'd expect.
01:16:17.000Well, because it's the people that you say something about, but you didn't mention them by name, but they're guilty, so they're like, are you talking about me?
01:16:41.000We need heart-shattering sound to shake people out of this morose.
01:16:48.000Yeah, I mean, like I said, it speaks to the mistrust of the establishment by the average person, you know?
01:17:00.000And I think that the fact that it resonated with so many people and went viral so fast, and so viral so fast, I think that that's something that really Has worried the establishment and you have Rolling Stone Crapping on a protest crap on everybody.
01:17:18.000Well, I mean they didn't always a protest song That's supposed to be something that Rolling Stone would get behind, you know It's protesting against the government and and like, you know in the 60s that would have been or the 70s That's what that would have been right up Rolling Stones alley.
01:17:31.000They'd have been right there in Cheering them on, but they weren't because they're the establishment.
01:17:38.000Let's jump to this unrelated story, but interesting nonetheless.
01:17:42.000Minnesota town's entire police force resigns, leaving chief with zero prospects.
01:17:48.000Goodhue, Minnesota, a small town in the southeastern part of the state, lost its entire police force after the chief and other members of the force handed in their resignations.
01:17:56.000I think we're a little bit blindsided by it, but we're resilient.
01:18:10.000If you want to keep the PD, and this is something we want to keep going with, something needs to change dramatically and drastically, and it's got to happen now.
01:18:16.000One Goodhue City Council member praised the police force for maintaining law and order in the town of Goodhue.
01:18:22.000I can probably speak for everyone when I say that they provided excellent safety and security to our community, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah.
01:18:29.000So when I talk about what comes next, confidence, people believing in federal government, yeah, at least in this small town, and it's not the only place we're seeing things like this, this is just the most extreme example, the entire police force resigning.
01:18:43.000We've seen similar things before of mass resignations from various police departments.
01:18:47.000What happens to a town when they have no cops?
01:18:50.000Well, we could already see what's happening to LA and New York when the law says you can't arrest these people, when people aren't allowed to defend themselves or their property.
01:18:57.000But what happens when there's no cops?
01:19:08.000Because if there's no cops to arrest a criminal at all, the criminals already aren't getting arrested.
01:19:13.000That means there's no one to arrest the person for defending themselves.
01:19:16.000Which means in small towns with zero police, people will start arming up, and then if someone comes in to rob their store, they get shot.
01:19:25.000Then this person says, there's no government, I don't abide by any of that, I don't know what they're talking about, they abandoned us a long time ago, and this leads to social breakdown and decay.
01:19:35.000But maybe, it ultimately leads to more community building, because if there's no cops, people have to go talk to their neighbors to figure out how they're protecting each other.
01:19:41.000Yeah, I think becoming a cop through necessity kind of is more noble than doing it for a paycheck.
01:19:48.000Doing it because we truly need protection and then calling the greatest among us to protect is like, that's a calling.
01:19:56.000It's important to note the population of this city, it is a city, is only 1,176.
01:20:16.000So how do you feel about the law that's being passed in Chicago or Illinois where illegal immigrants can actually become police officers now?
01:21:45.000I mean, I don't have any, you know, data on it, but, like, that's what it seems like.
01:21:51.000This is a House Bill 3751, in case people want to look into it.
01:21:55.000I wonder about like letting people earn ways for people to earn citizenship and if joining military a lot of like they do that you you can do that by joining the military and I think that the military is one thing but joy but just coming to the United States and joining a civilian police force I think is different yeah I've never heard up to this point that that would function but maybe it would be a good way to you can buy citizenship Yeah, one thing that people do is they'll, you don't need to be an American citizen to start a company in the United States.
01:22:22.000So they'll start a company, then they'll hire themselves and use that as justification for coming here.
01:22:29.000There's also economic visas where it's like if you have a certain amount of money invested, then you get to stay in the country.
01:22:35.000I have no problem with people coming to the U.S.
01:22:37.000that are looking to improve their situation and start a business or whatever.
01:22:43.000It's one of the wonderful things about the United States is we've always been open to people that want to come and want to be free.
01:22:55.000Take advantage of the fact that we are a mostly free country.
01:22:58.000You know, the problem is when it's like, oh, you know, we're just going to have people that we're going to allow people to come in.
01:23:03.000And then as soon as you get here, we're going to get you on to some kind of government subsidies or government program or something.
01:23:43.000If you're here illegally, you shouldn't get free services from the government beyond the immediate stuff that everyone else gets.
01:23:51.000If you show up at a hospital and you need emergency care, that shouldn't mean that you get sent to the police and get sent out of the country.
01:24:01.000If you need the police to help you, the police shouldn't automatically wrap you up like the regular beat cops.
01:24:08.000But, you know, there's a whole lot of DHS out there and they do a whole lot of messing with your average people when they could be looking for people that have, you know, skipped their hearings for whatever they call it when they come into the country or whatever.
01:24:25.000I wonder what percentage of illegal immigrants are actually like superheroes that Sure, we're better off having in this country.
01:24:53.000One of the bad things about people that come to the United States, people like that that come to the United States, if they're successful, people that are coming to the U.S.
01:25:00.000from under, you know, people from countries that have lower economic, you know, output and stuff like that, the people that are successful, they're needed in those countries.
01:25:12.000So if you're like a doctor in, you know, somewhere in Africa and you're a good doctor in the major city in, you know, whatever African country you're talking about, and you leave, To come to the U.S.
01:25:25.000But there's a lot of people in Africa that we're relying on you being the good doctor in town taking care of them.
01:25:33.000So there's it's a double edged sword when you're like, oh, we're going to do we're going to accept.
01:25:38.000We want to accept good people that can contribute to our society.
01:25:42.000If you're taking them from third world country, which they have every reason to want to get out of there, I get it.
01:25:46.000But if you're taking from third world countries, those people are the ones that are the most necessary to help build those countries that they're coming from.
01:25:54.000So it's, you know, it's just a struggle idea that you, that people need to think about when it comes to immigration.
01:26:01.000Brain drain, causing brain drain on other countries.
01:26:39.000So I'm not saying there's no good people in that bunch that are coming here illegally.
01:26:44.000But I'm also not saying a majority of them are probably the rock stars that you're talking about.
01:26:48.000I think that makes sense, because the super, super phenomenal humans will probably figure out how to get here legally.
01:26:54.000Of course, because they're not going to want to go across the Rio Grande when they have all these skills.
01:26:59.000They're going to want to be like, hey, how do I, how do I come here so I can, because I got all these skills.
01:27:03.000And we'll be like, absolutely, like, come on over.
01:27:07.000If you're trying to smuggle kids across the border, you're probably not the person that should be here.
01:27:12.000And if you're one of those kids, it basically doesn't even matter if you're like a 16 year old, but you're like a super genius and you're getting smuggled across the border.
01:30:34.000Do you think that being a police officer in a community that has ACAB written graffiti on all the walls around and you can't get the community to talk to you and help you Find any, you know, solve crimes or whatever.
01:30:50.000Do you think that any cops want to be a police officer?
01:30:53.000I love that story from Elliot Page about some guy screaming and chasing Page into a store in West Hollywood or whatever.
01:31:02.000Because now I'm pretty sure West Hollywood has the community safety person, advisors or whatever instead of cops.
01:31:08.000It's like, yeah, people in like vests instead of police officers or something like that.
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01:33:30.000says, Tim, I finally got the American flag beanie.
01:33:33.000Now I must turn it upside down to represent the current political distress status of our country.
01:33:37.000And in these three years, the political landscape has only deteriorated.
01:33:41.000How of us, who of us, how of us have recently woke up just to realize the country has been taken over by an evil that will not, that will stop at nothing to gain power?
01:35:57.000The DOJ is arresting people who walked peacefully into a building with the doors opened by police with no warnings, no barricades, no signs.
01:36:07.000Yes, I know, and I say it every time, there were people rioting on one side of the building.
01:36:13.000But they're raiding the homes of people because they walked onto the Capitol grounds having no idea what was going on, waving little American flags, and then they left.
01:36:24.000Plato fled after Socrates was executed.
01:36:27.000Plato and a bunch of Socrates' other followers were like, let's get the hell out of here because this is not good.
01:36:31.000I think people forget too that the same thing is going on in Canada or happened in Canada with their truckers, right?
01:37:40.000But, you know, you read these stories out of World War, out of Weimar, Germany, and you read these stories about people, you know, Jewish people who live in the United States, and they're like, oh, my grandparents left before the World War II, and it's like, well, how'd they know?
01:37:52.000And it's like, because they could see everything that was happening, and they knew what the Nazis were advocating for.
01:37:57.000So they got out, and a lot of people didn't, and stayed.
01:38:02.000And I read these stories of people who are denying they didn't believe it could get that bad.
01:38:53.000A lot of jaystickers could not get lawyers because the government is going after people.
01:38:56.000Yeah, if the government If the government prosecutes lawyers for defending people or for giving counsel, that's violating the right to counsel, the right to a fair trial.
01:39:10.000You can't have a fair trial if the government is intimidating lawyers from working with you.
01:39:17.000John Adams represented the British after the revolution.
01:39:21.000They believe everyone deserves due process.
01:39:26.000That's something like what I said earlier.
01:39:28.000The point is to strike fear into the population.
01:39:33.000Lawyers are going to be afraid to defend people that have the wrong political opinions.
01:39:41.000The behavior of the government is intended to frighten people and to spread the message that if you If you have the wrong opinions and you are vocal about them, the government is going to come down on you.
01:39:57.000And the only right opinion is what we're saying is the Biden opinion, right?
01:40:04.000That's the only one you're allowed to have?
01:40:06.000It's not so much the Biden opinion, but it's probably the left politically.
01:40:56.000All you have to do is say, here's the scenario in which Democrats calm down that ultimately leads to the point where Biden and Trump hug, high-five, and wave an American flag together.
01:41:07.000I'm being somewhat silly, but just explain to me a scenario in which, following these indictments, Trump supporters say, guys, let's stop fighting.
01:41:19.000Beau Bierneson says, next Casper commercial idea, we recreate the scene from Psycho where Ian is in the shower and gets pecked to death, violent screech and all.
01:41:28.000Wait, we were just talking about that.
01:41:30.000Well, no, but Ian has been converted by the coffee.
01:41:34.000So the next commercial needs to be someone else.
01:41:37.000And the question people are asking is what would happen if he didn't drink the coffee?
01:41:40.000So I think what we do is we have somebody Similarly, waking up to the scream, running, but they go into the kitchen, and they say, get the coffee ready, but there's no one there, and they go, crap!
01:41:52.000Then they run in and start trying to fumble with the coffee, and they can't get it, and then Roberto shows up, and they're like, I'm brewing it, I'm brewing it!
01:42:00.000And then it shows them backing into the corner, and then you see just the silhouette of the rooster pecking, and then you see, like, a silhouette of liquid spraying in the air.
01:42:06.000Yeah, and you can see the coffee mug in the shadow.
01:42:11.000And then you hear the weird demonic crowing, and it'll just be like, Drink.
01:42:19.000Then the next idea is Ian walks into the room with his eyes glowing and he says, hello friends, would you like a glass of delicious cast brew coffee?
01:42:28.000And everyone's like, oh yeah, sure, I guess.
01:42:31.000And then one by one they all drink it and then turn into zombies just like him and go, this is good coffee.
01:42:37.000Mine's a little cold, I'll zap it with my red eyes and it'll be steaming.
01:42:43.000And then you can have someone be like, wow, does Casper give you superpowers?
01:42:46.000And then he drinks it and then he goes, tastes good.
01:44:30.000Anthony Brownlee says, I live in Georgia and I am sick of these corrupt politicians thinking they know what's best for me and my family.
01:44:36.000I'm ready to make a stand, quit my job, and run for office, but I'm calling for help to get started, not money, just information where to start.
01:44:46.000Maybe you could meet with local officials, go to a local congressman's office and ask them and see what they can do for you, see what they can tell you.
01:44:53.000Trent Lamalino says, I had only plans to vote for Dave Smith, but with him not seemingly wanted, wanting to, and everything going on with Trump, I'll vote for 45 Savage.
01:45:05.000Yeah, I'd have liked to vote for Dave Smith, but I want Trump to win.
01:45:22.000Well, I don't, if I understand, I don't think there's been any kind of like confirmation that he's not, but the, you know, he hasn't announced and everyone kind of is like running around looking around for someone for the Libertarians.
01:45:34.000The rumors I've heard is that the Mises Caucus guys are trying to find someone and their choices are awful.
01:45:43.000One of them, one of the choices that I've heard is he's a friend of mine.
01:46:16.000It would be cool to go in there and decentralize the government, though.
01:46:19.000It's a funny thing about libertarianism versus communism.
01:46:21.000Communists believe that every communist country wasn't real communism, and libertarians think each other individual libertarian are not real libertarians.
01:46:29.000As soon as you want the state to do anything, you're not a libertarian.
01:46:45.000Promotional email says, don't know if this made the rounds yet.
01:46:48.000Marion County, Kansas, police conducted a raid and seizure of local news agency, reporters and their equipment, happened a couple days ago, and I believe the woman who owned it, while they were getting raided, she died of like a stress heart attack or something like that?
01:47:52.000Maybe someone listening wants to do this.
01:47:54.000There's that song by Jem from, I think, like the 2000s called They.
01:47:58.000And just listen to the song and it's hilarious by today's standards because of what it implies based on the, you know, like the ACLU and the SPLC and the ADL.
01:48:09.000Maybe not ACLU, but the ADL and the SPLC.
01:48:12.000And like, what are some of the lyrics?
01:48:15.000I can't remember the song, but look up the lyrics.
01:48:17.000And I was thinking it would be funny to make a video where you have the song, They.
01:48:22.000Any song that refers to They as a protest song.
01:48:26.000And then after every key line from the song, it's Kanye going, who is They though?
01:48:32.000You also have, I was into Muse, I forgot what the song's called, but in the song they're like, they will stop degrading us, they will, like, yeah, people know the song, and I'm like, we were skating, and the song comes on, they will stop ignoring us, or whatever, I don't know what the lyrics are, and I just went, who is they though?
01:48:49.000And I'm like, there's a lot of songs that refers to they as people in control and power.
01:48:54.000And I think we just need a compilation of every song that's talking about they, you know, or them.
01:49:22.000Crunkaju says J6 was in support of Pence to reject the counterfeit electors, except Pence was a coward and backed out, so we were left with Biden.
01:49:29.000It's not necessarily about even rejecting counterfeiters.
01:49:32.000The principal argument was that, in some instances, governors changed the election rules without the approval of the state legislature, or courts did.
01:49:41.000And the argument was, these electors should go before the state legislation.
01:49:46.000There should be a session where they vote to certify this, if they want.
01:49:50.000And if they don't, then they make a decision.
01:49:53.000And Mike Pence was terrified that the deep state would come for him, as they're coming for everyone else.
01:51:24.000I guess it could be, if it goes the Spanish Civil War route, you get a right-wing military coup, and if it goes, it could go the Nazi route, or it could go the Bolshevik route.
01:51:53.000I just saw the video of the 30-year-old girl that was, like, the foreman on that one trial, where she's like, they're talking like this, and I was eating a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles popsicle when we invited...
01:52:13.000Patriot American says, Tim, in my opinion, the next civil war is going to be a mix of IRA guerrilla warfare tactics from the 20th century with modern 21st century resistance tactics like hacking using technology to inflict damage physically.
01:52:26.000No, no, I think, I think there's going to be like poisonings.
01:52:29.000I think there's like, there, and, and look what happened in Russia with that, that influencer who got, who was given the statue that exploded.
01:52:37.000I think, I think in modern fifth generational civil war, you see things like that.
01:52:50.000But I think the escalation path for this in terms of street level violence, I don't know if we get to that point where the street level violence is inherently worse, is substantially worse than where it was a few years ago.
01:53:05.000Because those extremists are now in government, or the government has become extreme to where they're just arresting their enemies.
01:53:12.000So you have Antifa fighting with Proud Boys in the street, yeah that's phase one.
01:53:16.000The next level is now, the FBI is Antifa, and they're literally just going and arresting anyone who opposes them.
01:53:41.000I think it's the perfect way for the world to operate.
01:53:45.000People have their own sovereign states.
01:53:47.000They can live the way they want to live, and then there are courts and councils so that we can adjudicate problems.
01:53:55.000Like, I have no problem with international treaties and cooperation on solving International problems.
01:54:05.000I don't like the idea of a totalitarian communist one-world government.
01:54:09.000I like the idea that instead of going to war, we file a lawsuit with an agreed-upon third party, and then one country hears that, you know, we don't fight over it.
01:54:18.000In fact, I would prefer if there was a territorial dispute, we have a soccer match over it.
01:54:23.000Like, anything is better than blowing each other up, you know?
01:55:27.000You had them unload hundreds of rifle rounds into a white SUV killing two teenagers.
01:55:33.000And they're like, but interactions are cordial.
01:55:35.000Dude, I want you to imagine the Civil War.
01:55:38.000Do you think that the dude who like worked at the shoe shop walked outside and went, oh, I'm going to go punch my next door neighbor because he's got different political views than me?
01:55:48.000Granted, in Syria, it's eventually what does happen in full-scale societal collapse.
01:55:53.000I think what the Super Chatter was intending to mean is that when you have a diplomatic conversation with someone, you can get through them regardless of political affiliation.
01:56:02.000When it's one-on-one, not necessarily in crowds, not at rallies and stuff, that's a hard place to strike up a conversation.
01:56:08.000But like here for instance on a show or something you a lot of times can have really... That's why the United States has stood the test of time to this point is because we've been able to talk about wildly different political views.
01:56:27.000It could be revolutionary in the sense that the left has taken control of law enforcement institutions, and they're going to use them to stop the right from getting control back.
01:56:37.000But why are those people not terrorists?
01:56:50.000And so Donald Trump was unwilling to use law enforcement to stop these people, and they are willing to use law enforcement to stop Trump.
01:56:58.000There were official documents that declared Antifa a terrorist organization.
01:57:09.000I'm confident that that actually happened on a federal level.
01:57:14.000So, on a federal level, Antifa's considered?
01:57:17.000I'm pretty sure the FBI considers... Oh, because I'm pretty sure they're still going after right-wing people on... They'll go after them both.
01:57:26.000They don't mind anyone who challenges their authority.
01:57:28.000I mean, I'm personally, emotionally, I'm more of a right-leaning kind of guy.
01:57:33.000But like, you know, I don't like the government at all.
01:57:36.000And the government will go after left people that don't like the government.
01:57:59.000The FBI has sufficient latitude to go after anyone that they want to consider a terrorist.
01:58:09.000And the definitions are loose enough nowadays that they can pretty much just slap the The Xbox Gamer says, Tim, how about that TimCast clip featured at the end of a new Trump 24 ad?
01:58:22.000Saw it in a Benny Johnson video earlier today.
02:00:18.000Joshua Mosk says, with everything going on, we found out the government and the FBI suppressed the Hunter Biden story, and a whole lot more.
02:00:25.000Joe Biden admits they had a fraud campaign going.
02:00:27.000Do you still think the election was not rigged?
02:00:30.000When did Joe Biden admit they had a fraud campaign going?
02:00:34.000I think they were referring to the clip when Joe Biden mistakenly said that he had the biggest voter fraud operation going since, like, whatever.
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