On today's show, we have a special guest to talk about the latest in fake news and the ongoing saga of the January 6th congressional subpoena. Will Chamberlain of Human Events joins us to talk all about this and much more.
00:01:04.000We got other stories in fake news, my friends.
00:01:06.000We've got CNN and Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan grilling Sanjay Gupta, getting him to say, yes, you're right, CNN should not have said ivermectin was horse dewormer or that you were taking it.
00:01:16.000But then Sanjay Gupta goes on Aaron Burnett's show, who lied about it, and Don Lemon's show, who lied about it, and they double down, and Sanjay Gupta does not correct them, because they are fake news.
00:01:29.000But outside of that, I think it's all part of the bigger story in that the economy's collapsing, we're on the verge of some kind of civil war, we're actively seeing now people trying to arrest the political rivals, which has been the case, I guess, for several years.
00:01:42.000We've just resisted the actual action of doing so, but now it's looking like it's getting to that point.
00:01:47.000And we have a, this is crazy, a jail warden in DC being held in contempt over violating the civil rights of one of the January 6th defendants.
00:01:55.000So maybe that's some good news in the end, that some judges are actually going to be like, yo, people have civil rights.
00:02:00.000But I think in the long run, it's feeling like falling apart.
00:02:03.000Well, joining us to talk all about this is Will Chamberlain of Human Events.
00:02:07.000Yes, I'm a lawyer, co-publisher of Human Events, senior counsel to the Internet Accountability Project, which fights big tech abuse, and always happy to be here with you guys.
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00:02:45.000Yeah, I Unfollowed Luke to see what happened and followed him and it's like are you sure you want to follow this guy?
00:02:50.000He's fake news Yeah, our fact-checker said so.
00:02:52.000Yeah, it's it's mind-boggling Like I feel like I want to know this just in case I ever I mean you guys you guys just followed me So you guys are probably on the second list of the main list.
00:03:08.000I mean you guys are there, too So welcome to the club I've been following you since before you were fake news, so I wonder if they'll have me on some sort of list now.
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00:05:12.000Now, I chose the BBC on purpose, because it's not an American news outlet, so I was really interested in how they would frame it, especially considering it's kind of a left establishment.
00:05:19.000They write, Steve Bannon, Congress plots criminal charge for former Trump aide.
00:05:25.000Mr. Bannon has been summoned to testify before the congressional panel investigating the riot on Thursday.
00:05:30.000He did not appear, prompting the head of the committee to schedule a Tuesday vote to hold him in criminal contempt.
00:05:37.000If convicted, Mr. Bannon faces a fine up to one year in prison.
00:05:41.000Democrats say he is trying to delay the probe.
00:05:44.000Mr. Bannon, a former right-wing media executive who became Mr. Trump's chief strategist, was fired from the White House.
00:05:49.000He was asked to testify regarding his communication with Mr. Trump a week before the incident, as well as his involvement in discussing plans to overturn the election results that saw Joe Biden in the White House.
00:06:00.000I don't, I don't know if that's fair framing.
00:06:03.000He's out to overturn the election results.
00:06:05.000He certainly thinks there's widespread fraud, but what they're doing is there was this thing he said where he was like, you know, I was there and I was talking with Trump right before the rally and like helped organize it or something.
00:06:15.000And they're trying to take that and reframe it as though he said he organized the riot, which he didn't.
00:06:20.000Now, the bigger thing here to me, that's scary.
00:06:25.000Establishment Democrats, and for all intents and purposes, Republicans, but they're actually Democrats.
00:06:34.000They're going after private citizens to force them to testify in their crackpot probe.
00:06:39.000If they actually come and arrest Bannon over this, it's like we're dangerously close, in my opinion, to a spark of some kind of civil war.
00:06:49.000I wouldn't be quite so pessimistic in the short term, because I think, ultimately, the amount of time it will take them to even get to the point, right?
00:06:56.000Like, Congress doesn't have the ability to charge somebody with contempt or prosecute them, right?
00:07:00.000They're relying on referring it to the U.S.
00:07:02.000Attorney of D.C., and then that actually has to go through normal criminal process.
00:07:07.000Bannon's not just making a claim that, basically, he's making a claim, like I read the letter he sent to his lawyer, or his lawyer sent to Congress, And they're claiming, look, the president's claimed his executive privilege and I'm, as an aide to him or somebody who was talking with him, I'm bound by that.
00:07:27.000I'll be happy to produce the documents if you come to an agreement with the Trump people or if you get a court order saying so.
00:07:35.000Under those circumstances, I don't know if they're going to be able to prove criminal contempt.
00:07:38.000It'll take a long time to get proven, but I think the really big problem here is, you notice what they're talking about.
00:07:45.000What is the January 6th Commission about?
00:07:47.000Is it designed to help with any legislative purpose?
00:07:54.000I'm not saying that we're at the point where, you know, all of a sudden we're going to see another, you know, CNN showing up at 6 in the morning to Bannon's house or anything like that.
00:08:02.000But we're moving from, we had in the Trump era, lock her up, arrest Hillary Clinton, and a lot of people being like, yeah, she should be arrested.
00:08:10.000I mean, she should be locked up for the email scandal at the very least, let alone lots of other things that went down with the Clinton Foundation and serious things that should be investigated.
00:08:19.000And now we're moving towards people are actively cheering and screaming on both sides for the arrest of the other side.
00:08:26.000I can't imagine, regardless of who's right or wrong, that this is going to lead somewhere good.
00:08:31.000And the fact that we're even doing committees like this, like, again, Congress is, the reason they have subpoena power, they're not, they're not a court.
00:08:37.000They're not, and they also don't have law enforcement power, right?
00:09:17.000I mean, they've been doing it to lower-level people, and I think it's only escalating to where it's now, and I wouldn't be surprised if, even if it does take a long time, that they're still going to try to go after Bannon criminally, because they go after people politically all the time.
00:09:32.000You look at the activities of the FBI.
00:10:18.000He went full, like, I am being deposed.
00:10:21.000You know, Fauci, who's normally like, Open in his language and very it is not a door Yeah, it is a large wooden object with a latch that when you turn a metal object Releases it allowing that that that wouldn't plank to be moved Yeah, and it's very different just a coincidence that it's almost the same genetic sequence that we were asking for grant funding With the exact cleavage site with the exact sickness that's going around the world right now.
00:10:46.000It's just you know a coincidence Not here to question anything, you know YouTube overlords, please.
00:10:52.000We love Fauci You see that woman who was skydiving?
00:11:23.000You know, I think there's one of the phenomena, one of the circumstances in the culture war.
00:11:30.000Conservatives don't care interacting with the left, or I shouldn't even say conservatives, but like whatever the freedom side is, doesn't mind going to a store owned by a bunch of people with Biden flags.
00:11:41.000There's a Biden flags all over and they sell cupcakes.
00:11:45.000The other way around though, they'll throw a brick through your window.
00:11:47.000This woman's freaking out like, I can't even go skydiving.
00:11:49.000So look, Donald Trump didn't do nearly enough with the presidential powers.
00:11:55.000The Democrats, as soon as they get power, it's the equivalent of throwing a brick through the window of the right.
00:12:01.000Yeah, there's a lot of Republicans, I remember, remember the national emergency debate about whether the president should declare a national emergency to try and build the wall?
00:12:09.000And how much, like, establishment Republicans were like, well, this will set a really bad precedent that Democrats could exploit.
00:12:15.000And it's like, you say that, and then when Democrats take power, they all complain about, look at all the unprecedented things that Democrats are doing.
00:12:22.000It's like, if they do unprecedented things, maybe you shouldn't really care that much about what precedents you set, because they don't, the Democrats don't But, but Will, they're paid, you know, a lot of money just to be, you know, the second level Democrats.
00:13:41.000The amount of money that she made is absolutely insane.
00:13:45.000But what's happening to Bannon, I believe, is a part of a slippery slope because we saw what happened politically when people on the left, when they were protesting for left issues, were arrested.
00:13:59.000George Soros dumped a huge amount of money into local politics, and they were able to rig the game where their people don't go to jail, their people don't get prosecuted.
00:14:07.000But if you sneeze in the wrong direction, if you're a part of the opposite party, you're going to see a heavy hammer come down on you.
00:14:14.000And with, on average, Americans committing three felonies a day, when we have the politicization of our justice system, we're slowly evolving into the destruction of it.
00:14:26.000I think it started a long time ago, but I think this is the beginning of it.
00:14:29.000And I think it's only going to swell and be made worse moving forward.
00:14:33.000I see someone in the chat said, Tim, run for Senate.
00:14:36.000And you know, I was thinking about it just now, and I'm like, if I did and I won, I would get really, really rich, you know, because as a member of the Senate, you'll make on average, I think $2 to $3 million a year on your $174,000 salary.
00:14:56.000It's just, you know, just all of a sudden money just appears and no one knows where it comes from.
00:15:00.000Well, I mean, you know, it comes from Hunter Biden style deals.
00:15:03.000You just need to have children and then you can have them go earn money.
00:15:07.000You could probably get a cushy job at Pfizer afterwards, or Google, or you'll get some donations from a lot of these multinational corporations and industrial complexes.
00:15:25.000Someone will fact check us very soon here in the comment section, which I'm paying attention to.
00:15:29.000I don't know if that's true, you get paid a salary.
00:15:32.000Getting back to this, I want Republicans next time in their power, which they probably will be.
00:15:38.000We might have a DeSantis or somebody as a president.
00:15:40.000Yeah, but look, unless Republicans win primaries, and that means getting America First or populist candidates to actually win, You're gonna end up with Kevin McCarthy, McConnell, Graham, and they're gonna be like, I'm gonna fight extra hard!
00:15:54.000and then the camera turns off and they high five Joe Biden.
00:15:57.000The Congress, I don't know how to fix the Congress problem, but I think, you know, the
00:16:24.000And early on, he pressed some buttons really aggressively with the travel ban and a few other things like that and got zapped.
00:16:30.000And so then he just kind of was like, I'm just gonna put the thing on autopilot.
00:16:33.000When it comes to exercising his executive authority to try and screw the other side, he's just like, no, I'm not doing that.
00:16:40.000And it's like, he could have pardoned a lot of people.
00:16:42.000He could have done so much for this power.
00:16:43.000And it's like, that's why one of the reasons I'm like, I want a lawyer next time, because this isn't, you know, people are like, man, we need a deal maker.
00:17:12.000jail officials in contempt in a January 6th riot case.
00:17:15.000Basically, they say that Judge Royce Lamberth summoned the jail officials as part of the criminal case into Christopher Worrell, a member of the Proud Boys, who had been charged in the January 6th attack at the Capitol.
00:17:25.000He'd been accused of attacking police officers with pepper spray gel, and prosecutors have alleged he traveled to Washington in coordination with the Proud Boys.
00:17:32.000It's clear to me the civil rights of the defendant were violated by the D.C.
00:17:36.000Department of Corrections, Lamberth said.
00:17:38.000I don't know if it's because he's a January 6th defendant or not.
00:17:41.000The judge ordered Quincy Booth, the director of the city's Department of Corrections, and Wanda Patton, the warden of D.C.
00:17:46.000Jail, to be held in contempt of court.
00:17:49.000While he did not impose any sanctions or penalties, the judge said he was referring the matter to the Justice Department to investigate whether the civil rights of the inmates in the jail are being violated.
00:18:32.000jail is just this bad for everybody, which is not exactly, you know, heartwarming, right?
00:18:36.000Either way, you're either intentionally making these people's lives miserable, or... I know the D.C.
00:18:42.000defendants, or the January 6th defendants, are kind of in their own separate facility right now, is my understanding.
00:18:46.000They were kept segregated from the rest of the general population, and maybe that facility has its own huge problems.
00:18:53.000Well, if you remember last year when this story was developing I was even telling people Sorry this year Earlier this year at around February I was I was you know Bringing up this conversation where there was already reports of torture of people being put in solitary confinement of people being beat back then So to hear that some of these people are still in solitary confinement that they're being held in their own unit I mean this definitely seems overboard.
00:19:19.000I mean solitary confinement for walking into a building. I mean some of the people did
00:19:24.000commit some crimes, but even then when you compare it to you know some of the crimes happening in major urban areas
00:19:31.000now. I mean there's not much to compare here.
00:19:34.000Or just I mean even the treatment of the you know the rioters, the Antifa rioters,
00:19:40.000over the course of the past few years.
00:19:42.000I mean, there was actually one case, um, Judge Trevor McFadden, you know, he was giving a sentence and somebody who had plead, pled to misdemeanor.
00:19:48.000And I think the, you know, the, the, you know, the government was asking for three months in jail or something like that.
00:19:54.000And he gave them like three months probation or in like no jail time at all.
00:19:58.000And basically said, like, I don't think you guys are serious.
00:20:00.000You guys have not treated these the same way as the other defendants.
00:20:03.000Like, there is criminal activity here, so there's going to be a punishment.
00:20:36.000We were running through the streets and it's really funny what happened was we were running and there was this moment where Luke and I made two different choices.
00:21:17.000But eventually, a supervisor came out, showed him my press pass.
00:21:20.000He pulled me and some other journalists up.
00:21:22.000But all of those people were charged and they were charged with conspiracy.
00:21:26.000Because they couldn't prove any one person was the person who was setting things on fire, that torched the limousine or threw bricks through windows.
00:21:36.000And so they said, charge them all with conspiracy, which doesn't fly.
00:21:39.000The state has to prove you as a person did something wrong, and they can't prove simply by wearing a hoodie.
00:21:45.000This is the tactic, and it's why they do it.
00:22:41.000He never committed any acts of violence against the state that day, but the state charged him as an Oath Keeper leader saying that he led the charge, organized everything, and put him in solitary confinement for 49 days.
00:22:55.000He was just able to go out, Of solitary confinement he's speaking out against this story Thomas Caldwell he is raising money because the legal fees he says is is is exacerbating him and destroying his livelihood and he's he's saying that his farms going to be taken away soon.
00:23:14.000So, he's still facing some legal court proceedings, but hearing stories of this 66-year-old guy who, again, is an FBI veteran, is an old Navy military member, to hear this kind of happen to me definitely shows me a totally different picture than what happened during the Trump inauguration.
00:23:36.000And look at that woman who the feds raided her house in Alaska.
00:23:41.000Because someone on the airlines, she got an argument over a mask on one of the airlines and they snitched and they called the FBI and the FBI followed up on the story very vigilantly.
00:23:55.000We get to a point with these conversations where I'm just like, Can we just pull words out of a hat to make headlines?
00:24:07.000Like, if the subject is the right gets censored, the libertarian, the freedom, the anti-war types are the ones who get censored, and the establishment shills and the Democrats don't, and the law enforcement is heavily weighted against people who are in support of freedom and opposition to the establishment, and Antifa gets a free pass, and the Proud Boys rot in prison.
00:24:25.000It's almost like, do we even need NPR to tell us this is happening?
00:24:28.000We could just be like, hey, here's the news, guys.
00:24:31.000The January 6th defendants are being tortured.
00:25:00.000But also, clearly, there's just this enormous double standard in the way they're treated.
00:25:03.000I'm reminded of Agamben and the state of exception.
00:25:06.000Sovereign is he who decides in the exception.
00:25:08.000And it's like, we have this world where You know, this is like the idea that we're have equal justice between different political sides is a total fiction.
00:25:17.000That what we're seeing is just is a total joke.
00:25:19.000And even if Republicans take back the House, they're not going to do anything.
00:25:27.000I mean, he could have been impeached the moment he did that thing with the eviction moratorium where he said, I don't think this is constitutional, but I'm going to do it anyway.
00:25:35.000And the Supreme Court said, you can't do it.
00:26:54.000It's that's a big love and you ain't in it.
00:26:56.000I don't think you can use politics to defend against that.
00:27:00.000I mean, you know, that's ultimately there is a world where you can that the administrative state is subordinate to the White House and the White House, a White House that knew what they were doing and was really like aggressive with their use of power.
00:27:13.000do real damage to the administrative state. The Trump White House was not that White House.
00:27:52.000That's, that's their, that's their whole, the premise of their electing in the first place.
00:27:57.000We had a story several years ago that was published by Gizmodo that Facebook was censoring conservative news because they had this trending tab and the employees there were basically told, or had this bias, conservative news versus their fake news, so they'd remove them from trending.
00:29:33.000I mean, there's serious... They're looking at a bipartisan law that's more targeted at Amazon, not allowing you to preference your own products.
00:29:43.000They're still talking hard about breakup and making Facebook and Instagram and WhatsApp divest.
00:29:55.000They're all still leftist companies, I think.
00:29:57.000you know it's sort of interesting to to see it you know i mean whenever i talk about like let's make platform access a civil right i get the objection from the libertarians like oh you're using government violated corporations liberty it's like okay but that corporation is colluding with the government to do to violate your liberty and i don't i don't care for corporations are people my friend it's amazing how it's like the democrats became the party of mit romney Those are usually Koch brother libertarians, and a lot of them don't understand how big tech is working with the state in tandem, making it not a private company.
00:30:36.000Not even what they're doing now when it comes to the programs that they're running and the larger participation that they have in our political system.
00:30:44.000They're not innocent corporations that are a part of the free capitalistic world.
00:30:52.000If informal government coercion is okay in the libertarian world, it seems like.
00:30:57.000Think about the vaccine mandate debate.
00:30:59.000Right libertarians are like you're violating a business's liberty if you tell them they can't uh enforce a vaccine
00:31:05.000mandate It's like well like look at a company like southwest who is
00:31:08.000clearly talking with the byte administration regularly Byte administration's going like we think really strongly
00:31:14.000that you should impose a vaccine mandate then they do So basically it's like the formal exercise of state power
00:31:21.000by a state government saying no vaccine mandates Is like the only answer to the informal exercise of state
00:31:27.000power by the biden administration to persuade
00:31:32.000These corporations to impose the mandates in the first place
00:31:34.000I think this is why a lot of the Libertarian Party doesn't like the Mises Caucus, because they're getting serious about it.
00:31:39.000But the core of the Libertarian Party has always pretty much been, we are not smart enough to recognize the government is in control of these corporations, and therefore the corporations should be free to do what they do, even though it's detrimental to everybody.
00:31:52.000It's like, yo, libertarians should be against centralized authority regardless of where it comes from.
00:31:57.000A major corporation can oppress anybody the same as a government.
00:32:05.000I don't understand how you can be like, a naturally spontaneously formed over 200 years organization of very powerful individuals with massive amounts of wealth and resources controlled in the authoritarian structure is a good thing that should be left alone.
00:32:21.000However, The same exact thing with a label on it that says government.
00:32:24.000Now that's where the problem comes in.
00:32:28.000It's remarkable to me how many of these libertarians are okay with being coerced and forced to walking off the cliff as opposed to, I should say coerced or manipulated into doing it, versus hard-forced.
00:32:39.000Yeah, that's what I mean by, like, overly formalist, right?
00:32:48.000It's like they look at, like, is this a formal exercise of government power or not?
00:32:55.000Look, the bigger picture here, in my opinion, is that, I mean, are we really going to have a red wave?
00:32:59.000I understand, historically, Republicans should be in for a major victory in the House.
00:33:03.000I understand that, based on the data we're seeing, there's good signs a red wave could happen.
00:33:07.000But if Mark Zuckerberg is going to dump about half a billion dollars to make sure you don't win, what's he going to do at his own company to make sure you don't win when it costs him nothing?
00:34:38.000All these liberals claiming that's not true.
00:34:39.000Don't pay attention to the laws they tried passing when they came out and said they wanted to ban all semi-automatic weapons, which is basically every single modern gun.
00:36:05.000We're talking about two different things here because they just placate us and they act and pretend like they're going to be doing something for us or they're going to be making a solid stand here.
00:36:15.000But let's not pretend at the end of the day when the big money guys come, they're going to bow down, get on their knees and do unforgiving acts for the multinational corporations, no matter how awful it is for their constituents.
00:36:27.000So I you know the Santas is interesting because he is kind of throwing a wrench into a lot of the narratives and agenda he's the one that really did by himself stand up against the lockdowns stand up against a lot of the mandates a lot of the restrictions and I think if it wasn't for him.
00:36:45.000A lot of other people would have just followed in line and complied and obeyed.
00:36:50.000And I think Florida was the first state that said, no, enough is enough.
00:36:53.000And DeSantis just made a statement also just a few moments ago, talking about the vaccine mandates, where he said, quote, the coercion is just totally wrong.
00:37:02.000I think it's destroying trust in public health.
00:37:04.000You're going to end up driving people away.
00:37:07.000And he's making some good, solid, logical points that I think are deserving to be considered.
00:37:34.000But the other thing too is, what I've been told, and I can't remember who told us this, The reason he's so up to date on the current political crisis and culture war is because of his wife.
00:37:47.000Because she pays attention, because she follows the news, and she follows the cultural issues, and then they sort of work together, and then it keeps him more informed.
00:37:54.000I'd have to imagine that a governor is actively trying to maintain fundraising and do all this political paperwork, having a good partner like that, like his wife, helping him stay informed.
00:38:10.000But, I mean, I give, you know, credit.
00:38:11.000Like, whenever I've seen him talk about something, like, not only did he do the vaccine mandate stuff, he was one of the first people to get a big tech law passed and signed a, like, anti-big tech censorship law.
00:38:20.000I think he did—Texas recently did one, too.
00:39:00.000And as a result, like, you know, not I don't mean effective in terms of like moral virtue but merely effective in terms of achieving democrat policy.
00:39:06.000I don't want a president who will be like a candidate of owning the libs.
00:39:10.000I want to see some legitimate policies.
00:39:12.000But I imagine he's going to be for many of the policies I think would probably be good.
00:39:14.000I imagine he'd do school choice and things like that.
00:39:17.000I'd be interested to see his foreign policy though because I think that'll be big.
00:39:20.000And one of my concerns is that we get a rising star who's culture war freedom side.
00:39:25.000But then he turns out to still just to be pro-war establishment in the long run.
00:39:36.000You know, if I can't, you know, I feel like we have had a pretty big sea change in the Republican Party on foreign policy, thanks to Trump in a lot of ways.
00:39:42.000And I'm very grateful to the former president for that.
00:39:46.000But, you know, I really, you know, I think even if DeSantis isn't perfect on foreign policy, like, or sorry.
00:39:53.000Culture war is a game that no one can win.
00:39:56.000Either we stop playing or we're all gonna lose.
00:39:59.000Technically, you know, we lose in the way where it's a net negative across the board, but the issue is lose by how much?
00:40:05.000How do you get your opponents to come into this negotiating table, right?
00:40:10.000The problem is with like the Joe Rogan thing.
00:40:13.000Sanjay Gupta wrote this essay, which is ridiculous, and he's saying like, I was warned Joe Rogan's a bad faith actor.
00:40:19.000Like, listen, We're gonna I want to save the Sanjay Gupta stuff, but I'll just say this Sanjay Gupta says in his essay He's never had a conversation with someone that's oh That was three hours or longer and that to me was like getting smacked in the face with a baseball bat like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa Sanjay Gupta never had a conversation with someone over three hours.
00:41:31.000If you head over to Instagram and take a look at Mr. LukeWeAreChange, that's his Instagram handle is at LukeWeAreChange.
00:41:38.000If you try to follow him, and please do, you may be greeted with this message.
00:41:43.000It says, Are you sure you want to follow LukeWeAreChange?
00:41:47.000This account has repeatedly posted false information that was reviewed by independent fact checkers or went against our community guidelines.
00:41:55.000I unfollowed Luke and followed him back and I got that message.
00:42:00.000Yeah, prove it you SLBs, what fake news.
00:42:04.000I post highly sophisticated, intelligent, thought-provoking memes with like 3D, 4D level
00:43:53.000We had James O'Keefe on, and we were talking about Stanford.
00:43:56.000Put out a study claiming that James O'Keefe Me, Tim Poole, Sidney Powell and Lin Wood and some other people were like the biggest purveyors of voter misinformation or whatever.
00:44:10.000And I'm like, what did James tweet about anything?
00:44:14.000He posts Veritas stories, where they literally have undercover things on other people.
00:44:41.000I think we look at that story from Mark Zuckerberg.
00:44:43.000You take a look at the laws being changed.
00:44:45.000I think this is, you know, it's pulling people off off base because the Democrats have excellent ground game and they put out fake news for some reason.
00:44:54.000And then, of course, people are like, well, if Stanford said it, it must be true, and they put it on Wikipedia, and then it becomes facts.
00:45:00.000Or CNN telling everyone that it's, you know, horse dewormer.
00:45:04.000There's so many lies by the mainstream media.
00:45:06.000And, you know, Anderson Cooper, all these other, you know, professional fake news spreaders, all these professional propagandists, they get to do whatever they want on these big tech social media companies.
00:45:16.000But also, I was criticizing Instagram and Facebook really hard over the mental health issues a couple days ago.
00:45:22.000Specifically also on this show, and I was making my own videos about this on my own YouTube channel.
00:45:27.000I was going after them hard, detailing the psychological experiments that they've done on unsuspecting users.
00:45:34.000So this seems more vindictive than anything else, because you look at the posts I make.
00:45:55.000These memes... Can you fact check these?
00:45:57.000For those that are listening, it says, NPR accuses Dave Chappelle of using white privilege, and then below it is Dave Chappelle as Clayton Bigsby, the black white supremacist, and it says, good for nothing tricksters.
00:47:05.000Even though the analytics show 910th Drop in audience interaction suddenly without me changing anything or changing any way that I post or interact with audience members So they're even fact-checking saying that it's false that they're limiting me to my audience Which they clearly are through the analytics through the numbers And it's this is the world that we're living in right now where memes like this, you know memes memes that again
00:47:35.000I'm not telling people what to do here.
00:47:37.000I'm just trying to make people laugh and think a little bit and for them to target.
00:47:42.000This is ridiculous and absolutely a sham huge injustice and ridiculous to say the least just as ridiculous as the memes.
00:47:51.000I mean the George W Bush one that I posted we don't have to show it here, but but if they flag that one that means that they're committing wrong think.
00:47:59.000That's the level of sophistication of meme warfare that we have going on here that, again, is extremely important.
00:48:08.000I remember first coming on the show, I said memes are going to be the thing that are going to change the landscape of our political dichotomy.
00:48:15.000I really do truly believe in them and I think that's why they're going after satire now, which I said, you know, they're going to figure out how to go after satire.
00:48:22.000I think this is the first step in that direction.
00:48:40.000It's like a YouTube documentary somebody made, but it's really, really interesting how they go through the history of CAC, and the frog, and Pepe, and the weird stuff on 4chan, and they were like, meme magic, man!
00:48:51.000But whether or not you believe in magic, When you have people who have found a way to have fun and build community, and then all of a sudden everyone's laughing with each other and sharing jokes, that's going to help that person out.
00:49:31.000Just in case they take me down, go check out enoughofcensorship.com, which is a link to my email list, which makes me uncensorable no matter what happens.
00:49:40.000So that's my response, my official statement to Instagram or anybody asking about this story.
00:50:02.000And just sporadically, I just see my viewership go down within the last few weeks.
00:50:06.000And it's just weird and strange that we're living in this world where you could be convicted of wrong-think and then have your access to... Not even know.
00:50:14.000Yeah, not even know, but also have your access to people that are your friends and are part of your community taken away from you.
00:50:22.000Just because some fact checker whoever that random mysterious person is decided that he doesn't like your humor It's almost like this should be against the law.
00:50:30.000Okay, that would be really what I'm thinking of This is like them making an editorial claim on your content be standing behind it like a platform or like a publisher rather Which we I had a long conversation about section 230 last night and about editing section 230 basically fixing it so that Maybe companies that make editorial claims like, this account is responsible for X, then become considered publishing news.
00:53:48.000And if Wikipedia is taking the byline on this one, aren't they responsible for that speech presented on that platform?
00:53:54.000Another thing to really kind of entertain here is one of the things that made the internet so amazing, so wonderful, was the free access to whoever you wanted to follow.
00:54:02.000You followed someone, you saw their content.
00:54:07.000You follow someone, you may see their stuff, you may not see their stuff, There's a carefully curated algorithm that has a long-term psychological negative effects on the population that is rising suicide levels, that is rising self-hurt incidences, that is rising levels of depression, that is rising the levels of psychological disorders.
00:54:27.000And this is because now they're carefully curating what information you get to hear and not hear.
00:54:33.000I mean, and that decision should be up to a human being saying, I want to follow him.
00:54:52.000Instagram now says, like, these three posts are recent.
00:54:56.000After that, I'm scrolling and it's random.
00:54:58.000And I'm like, wait, I don't follow these people.
00:54:59.000And then you've got to click see older posts to actually get the people you follow now.
00:55:03.000So this is sinister on so many different levels because people actively want to follow me, want to find my content.
00:55:10.000They're denied that by using this platform.
00:55:13.000So that's another level of interacting, of intervening in something that was free, was awesome, gave people what they wanted because people were sick of being lectured to, people were sick of being lied to, people were sick of just being force-fed nonsense.
00:55:29.000Now we're back to the day and age where they're force-fed nonsense every single day, while restricting the small and independent voices that made them as popular as they are.
00:55:37.000Regarding the shopping mall metaphor, would the shopping mall then be allowed to put up a sign, like the petitioners over there, the shopping mall have a sign that says, petitioners that way, lying about it?
00:56:15.000I think that it poses a very interesting question about whether or not a state could itself impose kind of regulations on the algorithm.
00:56:23.000It's trickier because that's a little closer speech, like you're forcing them to organize the information that appears on the feed in a certain way.
00:56:29.000Or what would be nice is if you could force them to show at least how they're organizing it by displaying the algorithmic code.
00:56:36.000Is there an argument to make here about the manipulation of the newsfeed that is creating self-harm and psychological disorders?
00:56:42.000Because there are medical studies that are showing that, you know, if you show certain images, you do have a certain psychological effect on a human being.
00:56:50.000And I think there's a lot of correlation with social media use and, you know, depression, suicide, everything that I talked about before.
00:56:56.000Is there even some kind of room in court to maneuver to say this social media caused actual real life harm?
00:57:03.000Well, I mean you have that you you can't one there's you can't prohibit you can't force people to speak right that's part part of the first amendment is that you don't have the you don't have you can't force people that's compelled speech that's also a first amendment violation so that's part one um part two is that you know there are specific categories of the law that are where speech is unlawful defamation right yeah um so is this considered defamation What is what considered defamation?
00:58:14.000Whether or not someone understands it's a joke or not is not on us when we say some people won't get it.
00:58:20.000So here's the thing, the reason that statement that they preview you, they say you've posted fake news or false news as determined by independent fact checkers, and or you violated community guidelines, not specifying how it's fake, what it is, or what news, that's lawyered, right?
00:59:03.000The censorship, what they did to Crowder.
00:59:06.000I think, you know, what happened with Crowder getting suspended and getting a strike is particularly worrisome, and it's just another grain of sand in the heap.
00:59:12.000And we'll consider this to be a semi-terrible segue into the story about Joe Rogan and Sanjay Gupta.
00:59:18.000But Joe Rogan sits down with Sanjay Gupta of CNN and refuses to let Sanjay Gupta change the subject.
00:59:28.000about what the medication i was taking was they said it was horse dewormer and joe's like a doctor prescribed it to me and sanjay gupta is like you're right you're right okay they shouldn't have said it that's the power of independent media and joe rogan may be on spotify whatever but that's why they don't like it that's why they censor it Now, I really want to point something out, though.
00:59:49.000In this article from CNN.com, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, why Joe Rogan and I sat down and talked for more than three hours, there are two very important things that give you insight into the minds of the cult.
01:00:01.000And boy, when I read you these things, will you realize it's a cult.
01:00:04.000First and foremost, he says, I don't think I ever had a conversation that long with anyone.
01:00:13.000We sat in a windowless podcast booth with two sets of headphones and microphones, and a few feet between us, not a single interruption, no cell phones, no distractions, no bathroom breaks.
01:00:22.000Show of hands, or actually, let's go, Will, have you ever had a conversation with someone that was at least three hours?
01:00:27.000Yeah I mean if you know with breaks in between but yes like I'd say you know I mean it's the kind of thing where Converse you know you've been on this show before right?
01:00:35.000I have been on the show we've never gone three hours though.
01:01:52.000He says, okay, When I told Joe early in the podcast that I didn't agree with his apparent views on vaccines against COVID, I've remarked that in many things in between, part of me thought the MMA former taekwondo champion might hurtle himself across the table and throttle my neck.
01:02:09.000But instead, he smiled and off we went.
01:02:12.000Yeah, that's a weird bias that you have.
01:02:16.000He is the chief medical correspondent for CNN, the most trusted name in the news, who has never had a conversation with someone that lasted at least three hours and genuinely feared Joe Rogan would physically assault him in a podcast studio over his opinions.
01:02:40.000You know, it's something interesting, like, people, there's certain people, and there's only a few areas where, like, it's one thing to have a conversation with someone over a long period of time.
01:02:49.000It's another to, like, be able to be interrogated, right?
01:02:53.000And by that I mean, like, to be asked a continuous sequence of questions to examine what you think in your position on something.
01:03:00.000If you're the subject of a Socratic questioning from a professor.
01:03:04.000That'll happen in debate rounds, like there's cross-examination that takes a period, like there's other things.
01:03:10.000But there's a lot of people, even if they're very smart and they've gone through very high-level, you know, academia or like medical school or something, will have never actually been in a position where they were subject to like a sustained line of questioning about their beliefs.
01:03:25.000And I think that's Sanjay, if anything, I think that's probably what he's expressing this like, I was not ready.
01:03:30.000This is like the first time I've ever been interrogated.
01:03:33.000Like, I mean, I don't mean interrogate like with like law enforcement, but just like questioned about a position for this length of a period of time.
01:03:40.000And, and it's the sort of, you know, regret kicking in because he got owned, right?
01:03:45.000Like he got revealed that he had to get up and basically he had to concede to sound like a reasonable person that yes, in fact, CNN had done wrong here.
01:03:53.000Um, And then CNN is now so furious about it that they're putting him back on the show to, like, justify.
01:04:00.000I would greatly appreciate it, Joe, if you could just take some money, drop it in a retainer for some good law firm, and sue CNN.
01:04:11.000Don Lemon has come out, denied CNN lied about Joe Rogan's COVID treatment after claiming the podcaster took horse dewormer.
01:04:19.000No joke, they doubled down on the fact that multiple hosts lied.
01:04:25.000Joe Rogan sat there in front of Sanjay Gupta and said, a doctor prescribing medication.
01:04:30.000Sanjay said, yes, they shouldn't have said that.
01:04:32.000Then when Sanjay Gupta goes on with Don Lemon, he does not correct Don Lemon when Don says, no, no, no, listen, listen, it is horse dewormer.
01:04:53.000Because this was finally someone, a part of the establishment, being sat down and talked to like a regular human being, without any teleprompters, without any scripts, without any agenda.
01:05:03.000And he stuttered and he messed up and he tried to get away from the subject and Joe was right on him and he stumbled.
01:05:09.000Someone wrote a very funny comment under this entire story saying, it's a very strange world when an MMA commentator stumps a medical doctor on the topic of medicine.
01:05:20.000And let's be honest here, Joe Rogan was absolutely right to call out Sanjay Gupta, the chief medical advisor of CNN, why he didn't intervene, step up, Or at least correct the record when CNN was blatantly ... lying about him and spreading dangerous medical ... disinformation that would have real-life consequences that ... probably did have real-life consequences let's just be ... honest here about this particular topic.
01:05:46.000Didn't have an answer didn't he tried to change the topic.
01:06:27.000There's many scientific studies and preliminary findings that are showing that natural immunity could last a lifetime.
01:06:34.000Why still on top of that are you telling him to get vaccinated?
01:06:39.000It makes absolutely no point and there have been a number of complications and a number of medical professionals saying if you do have strong antibodies and natural immunity you might have complications from the vaccine.
01:06:50.000So again not a medical doctor not telling people what to do here but Sanjay Gupta admittedly came into this already trying to push bogus information that that wasn't helpful at all and and Joe Rogan He just blatantly called him out on all of his bullcrap, and he did not have an answer to it at all.
01:07:10.000I got a lot of respect for Sanjay for going on there, wanting to go on there, doing it, and just pushing it.
01:07:16.000He tweeted it out, he wasn't trying to hide from it.
01:07:18.000And they talked about, like Sanjay used to be very anti-marijuana, and then started to realize when he started to see the studies, he's a books guy, he's in the books all the time, when he sees the evidence, He changed his position.
01:07:28.000He realized that kids that were having like tremors and... I remember that a few years ago.
01:07:31.000This was a long time ago when marijuana was still a taboo thing where they weren't talking about the benefits of THC and CBD.
01:07:37.000He went to Amsterdam and interviewed small children and actually I was surprised by his work at that time.
01:07:43.000So it's very interesting that you're bringing this up and you do bring up a good point that at least he did go on and at least we saw the mask fall off slip for a little bit.
01:09:32.000If you played soccer in college and then you stopped playing, I'd still say it's fair to say you're a soccer player.
01:09:38.000Like, you're gonna know all about it, you're gonna have retained skills, and you'll be able to pick it up more than anyone else will be able to.
01:10:15.000Sanjay also made a very interesting point that a lot of people are talking about right now when he was on the Joe Rogan podcast, because he admitted That the aim on the show, when he was talking to Joe Rogan, that the aim of vaccinating children isn't to protect them, it's to, quote, slow the spread and protect adults around them.
01:10:31.000And if that's the official justification, if that's the official science of what doctors and CNN and the establishment medical professionals are standing on, they're pretty much putting young people at risk for the benefit of the old.
01:10:43.000And if that's happening in a society, that's a clear sign of a decaying society.
01:10:47.000Yes, Luke, but clearly Dr. Sanjay Gupta is not a smart person.
01:10:57.000If that is the official line from Sanjay Gupta, which is clearly contradicting the establishment narrative, then Sanjay Gupta must be a moron.
01:11:06.000He must just be a crackpot conspiracy theorist peddling medical disinformation.
01:11:11.000I mean, I think, like, we were talking about earlier, it's like I have the same respect for Sanjay Gupta that I would have for some novice debater who got smoked in, like, a round.
01:11:18.000You're like, well, at least you tried, you know?
01:11:21.000Like, you got beat really bad, though.
01:11:22.000But you shouldn't need to have a debate with Joe.
01:11:26.000The problem is that Like, it wasn't even a debate.
01:11:33.000Oh, and in Sanjay Gupta's article, he says he gifted Joe a Joe Rogan Experience face mask from Joe's own website, which Joe seemed surprised by.
01:11:44.000And he makes it seem like Joe Rogan who's anti-mask.
01:11:47.000I bought him a mask from himself and he was shocked.
01:11:50.000And I'm like, he was probably confused as to why you got him a mask from his own merch store.
01:11:55.000If someone showed up and was like, hey Tim, I got you something.
01:14:34.000This is a good point to bring up something, you know?
01:14:37.000Yeah, we want to make sure we're getting things right.
01:14:39.000We have a bunch of people in the chat who will say, like, here's a correction.
01:14:41.000Yesterday, we did a correction on our segment on Crowder.
01:14:43.000I misinterpreted what was going on with the suspension, but he was suspended.
01:14:47.000I want to show you this story from CNN Business, and I want to give a special shout out to one of the most evil people in media, Brian Stelter.
01:14:53.000CNN writes this article, these four words are helping spread vaccine misinformation.
01:14:58.000Four little words, do your own research, are hurting the U.S.
01:15:02.000pandemic response, CNN's chief media correspondent Brian Stelter said on Reliable Sources.
01:15:07.000Now this story is from last month, but I think it's very important because Brian Stelter also had a segment where he said, don't go and watch the propaganda, come to us.
01:15:18.000That's how you know you're being lied to.
01:16:31.000Something happened to the, like, the sort of wealthy white liberal mind, right?
01:16:36.000I don't know why that is, but like, Basically, I look at Australia and New Zealand and I'm like, this is what it would be like if the wealthy white liberals were completely in control of this country, right?
01:16:46.000If the Democratic Party didn't have a big part of its constituency as minorities.
01:16:51.000Like, if it were just white Democrats, we would be like Australia and New Zealand.
01:16:58.000So, uh, we can every day just, um, you know, give your respects to the right wing nut jobs living in the mountains for helping keep this country, uh, balanced, I guess.
01:17:57.000Well, they want little peasant slaves and they're doing the PR bidding of the ruling establishment that wants to control them more and have every aspect of their lives carefully coordinated in a way that directly benefits them.
01:19:17.000They're just spokespersons for the super-rich that are trying to placate you, pacify you, and make you comply with every crazy demand that they have for you.
01:19:26.000Maybe some value, if they had rephrased this and said, like, don't believe everything you read at face value.
01:19:42.000They're telling people to do the opposite.
01:19:44.000And either they're idiotically conflating the definition of thinking critically and don't believe everything you see at face value, or they're blatantly attempting to mislead people to become sheep led to the slaughter.
01:19:57.000Maybe Ian is a secret establishment shill because... Of course I am!
01:20:02.000Well, look, I'm going to say this, but I'm being fair.
01:20:05.000You are postmodernist and you often placate the things they're doing and try to find justifications as if they're doing something good.
01:20:12.0002006, I started making YouTube videos.
01:20:20.000Postmodernism is a way to critique all this stuff.
01:20:22.000Once you understand what they're doing, you start reading Foucault.
01:20:26.000Foucault is one of the classic lefty thinkers, but a big part of Foucault's work is about biopolitics, like the management of a human population's health.
01:20:53.000And sometimes I'll bring that up on the show and it's really kind of out of place on this show because we're talking more about like, literology.
01:20:59.000You know, people don't understand, too.
01:21:47.000Freedomistan is now in the ownership of the TimCast Media growing conglomerate, which means we're going to be doing more culture content, more gun content.
01:21:57.000We're going to be having range stuff, training, and maybe even some CQC training stuff.
01:22:02.000We're definitely growing, and we want to teach people responsibility.
01:22:05.000We want to inspire people to take care of themselves, to think critically.
01:22:09.000But, you know, we're still walking on thin ice.
01:22:13.000We're still traversing, you know, flaming field.
01:22:15.000At any moment, we could be, you know, cut back severely.
01:22:19.000It could make it very, very difficult to try and defend our ideals and our vision.
01:22:23.000I think of it as a metaphor of like, we're swimming upstream, and that's the political situation.
01:22:28.000We're all trying to swim upstream together.
01:22:29.000Then when we get to where we're going, there's all these other fish there, and this is the culture, and we're all kind of competing to get through.
01:22:52.000So the technology that's being built out with the Metaverse project, I think you've been calling it, is it's infrastructure.
01:22:59.000Creating pathways for people to maintain communications, to persist as the likes of CNN and the New York Times try to curtail your ability to think.
01:23:10.000Those are the people in the algorithms.
01:23:13.000Those are the people in your news feeds.
01:23:14.000Those are the people you get notifications from, even if you don't follow them.
01:23:17.000Other independent voices that question, that try to have a debate here, that try to counter the narrative, that try to enter the conversation from a point of view that's not from the script, well, they get hit with fake news accusations.
01:23:30.000So this is the world that we're living in more and more, and their message is becoming more and more radical.
01:23:35.000I mean, if you're at a point where you're a media institution and your main headline is, Don't Critically Think, that's when you know you're not a part of the good guys.
01:23:45.000That's when you know you're not doing journalism.
01:23:47.000That's when you know you're not a reporter.
01:23:50.000You're a repeater for the special billionaire globalist class that directly calls the shots, that pays the bills, that influences our politics more than we could even imagine.
01:24:00.000But let's also wrap this segment up on a high note.
01:24:05.000If the fact that we're here having this conversation and highlighting it is proof that victory is not only possible, but our mere existence and the success of this show and the work you do with Human Events and Luke, your channel, it's proof that victory has been happening.
01:24:21.000These are battles we win every day with all the work that we're doing.
01:24:24.000And for everybody watching as well, supporting the work.
01:24:26.000And I mean, you think about like vaccine mandates, right?
01:24:28.000Six months ago, they were saying, oh, of course, we're not going to mandate vaccines, right?
01:24:40.000Like you were not able to persuade people.
01:24:43.000And with your methods of persuasion, and so you resorted to government force.
01:24:47.000And like, in so many other ways, right, the mainstream media, corporate media has gone from, we're not worried about these competitors, we are better at our jobs, we are more accurate, people are ultimately, like, some small fringe number of people are gonna rely on crazies, but like, most people will rely on us.
01:25:07.000They're like, oh, actually, we've lost that battle too, so now we need to like, Yep, yep.
01:25:17.000And when we see them try and use extreme force against parents, I gotta say, a lot of this, we may, look, I'll say this, I may fear that, you know, who knows how long until they try and, you know, take out our channel or whatever, or delete it.
01:25:31.000When you're going after satire, when you're going after comedy, when you're going after memes, I mean, that's acts of desperation.
01:25:35.000I mean, this is what happened in Soviet-level communist countries.
01:25:37.000That's this major corporations. It's Republicans. It's Democrats. They are they are struggling
01:25:41.000To maintain some kind of control when you're going after satire when you're going after comedy when you're going
01:25:47.000after memes I mean that's acts of desperation. I mean, this is what
01:25:51.000happened in Soviet level communist countries This is what happened to you know, my family in Poland.
01:25:57.000They made sure that that musicians comedy performers
01:26:01.000Poets those are the first people that the Soviet Union went after because they influenced culture
01:26:07.000They influenced the general public in a way that motivated them through art.
01:26:12.000And if I'm ever proud of anything, I'm definitely proud of my t-shirt store.
01:26:17.000I'm proud of my email list that's very hard to take away because I have a physical copy of it.
01:26:21.000I'm very proud of my members area because this is something that I've been creating and now that they're going after our art, it's truly the last kind of sign of total You know, I don't want to be hyperbolic.
01:26:35.000But we're reaching the point of absurdity.
01:26:37.000We're reaching the point that I believe is sort of dangerous because they're literally trying to hit anything that even goes against their cult.
01:26:47.000That even goes against their larger ideology.
01:26:49.000That goes against any kind of prevailing ideas that they want to throw at you.
01:27:56.000I think the difference is, and we mentioned this the other day, is that LeBron was opining on politics that had nothing to do with his game.
01:28:02.000Whereas, Kyrie Irving is saying, like, they're not letting me play unless I submit to this, and I'm not gonna do it.
01:28:17.000No, like, look, you know, I kind of... I feel like the last, you know, five years, there have been moments where you're like, okay, that was kind of dumb.
01:28:24.000Like, and you look back at, sort of, 2010-era GOP behavior, and you're like, eh.
01:28:32.000That's kind of tacky, especially when they demean workers and laud CEOs and corporate people.
01:28:37.000When I was talking to Charlie Kirk about a lot of these issues, he said, you know, the conservatives weren't ready for these things, talking about populist ideas and the working class.
01:28:46.000Not the working class specifically, but there's a lot of things where he was like, we didn't realize this, like the corporations and stuff like that.
01:28:52.000And I'm just thinking, like, Jack Murphy mentioned that when the Republican Party said okay to gay marriage, that allowed him to be like, oh, okay, I can embrace this party right now.
01:29:02.000I actually feel like what's happening is the Republican Party has shifted to the left, thanks to Donald Trump.
01:29:07.000A lot of independent voters were like, he's the guy I'm gonna vote for because his politics align closer with mine, populism, fighting back against the establishment, less so with traditional conservatism or anything like that.
01:29:18.000So now I see, you know, in this battle, there's a more moderate right concerned about what's going on.
01:29:25.000I think that builds a bigger coalition and more optimism, I suppose.
01:29:29.000And I mean, there's some Democrats who are ringing the alarm bell.
01:29:32.000I mean, something I guess I should have brought up for discussion is there's this op-ed Or about this guy, David Shore, who was on Obama's polling team, and he's like a socialist, but he's one of these people who's like hardcore poll analyst reader, and he's like ringing the alarm bells of Democrats, because he's like, hey guys, Donald Trump is really good for the Republican Party as a general matter, because he reoriented their policy positions and their base to give them huge structural advantages in the Senate and the Electoral College.
01:29:59.000And like, basically he's like, we need to radically restructure, you know, we need to add states, we need to do all these crazy things in order to win.
01:30:06.000But like when Democrats are saying that, the point is like, yeah, Republicans are, you know, I'm, this is why I'm not blackmailed at all.
01:30:11.000Like, you know, if, if we can get past social media censorship and some of the other shenanigans, Republicans have a much more popular policy platform than they did 10 years ago.
01:30:58.000And I mean, also, without, you know, any sort of suicide pact type stuff, like, I mean, again, I'm going back to, like, Lin Wood being like, don't vote for the Georgia Senate candidates.
01:31:56.000Black Pill for some people, but I do think it's going to be art, it's going to be culture, it's going to be memes, it's going to be ideas, it's going to be individuals standing up for their personal, individual liberties and being personally responsible for themselves, moving away from such a draconian, totalitarian system and deciding that they're going to be taking care of themselves by being happy, healthy and productive as much as they can.
01:32:20.000The reason that the state thrives off of so many people who don't think, people who are unhealthy, it's motivated in a way where you not being fulfilled, you being weak, makes the state stronger.
01:32:35.000So I think if anything's going to happen, if there's ever going to be a change, it's citizenry deciding to take care of themselves, take personal responsibility, be happy, healthy, and prosperous.
01:32:45.000And that will eventually reverberate and reciprocate into people moving away from the state and moving towards their own kind of individual liberty.
01:32:54.000Yeah, you pointed out, if we can overcome the tech censorship, then.
01:33:02.000But I want to say one thing that I find funny.
01:33:06.000Back in the day, Luke and I were hanging out in 2011, 2012, and we had this joke that in 20 years or whatever, I'd be this suit-wearing CEO of a major conglomerate media company, and Luke would be this still independently-run operation, and he'd see me coming out of a meeting, and he'd be like, Tim, why did you?
01:33:23.000And then he'd question me, and then I'd be like, It's Luke!
01:33:28.000It's a funny joke, but I'm just thinking about how long it's been and how much work we've put in and where we are now.
01:33:34.000You know, Luke's been doing this for a lot longer than I have.
01:33:36.000We were hanging out back in 2011, and now here we are, you know, doing more work, challenging these systems, fighting for freedom, and I feel, honestly, if you look at this new studio, I mean, we've been winning in a lot of ways.
01:33:52.000But I do believe a lot of it is because panic and fear.
01:33:55.000The establishment has been losing control.
01:33:57.000Donald Trump was a huge sign they were losing control.
01:33:59.000They freaked out, and boy, did they slam an iron fist, and that's only going to destabilize the system for them more as we grow, as we expand, and we do more work, especially thanks to all of you who are super chatting, everybody commenting, everybody liking, everybody who reads Human Events, who watches We Are Change, who watches TimCast, you guys, all of us together.
01:34:18.000Let's read some superchats and get down to it.
01:34:20.000If you haven't already, smash that like button.
01:34:23.000Maud Dib says, Tim, have you listened to Data and Picard by Pogo?
01:35:22.000Carl Andrews says, Luke, I will follow you on Insta and anywhere, for that matter, from the poop-covered sidewalks of California to the 1,000-yard ranges of Fridamistan.
01:37:09.000Just so quiet I'm worried I'll get hit.
01:37:12.000Yeah, I mean, I don't mean to be like, if you're worried about, you should be worried about getting hit.
01:37:17.000So my mom was a lawyer and she did insurance defense, right?
01:37:20.000So that means like somebody, you know, it's usually like various types of injuries and then she represents the insurance company if it goes to litigation.
01:37:27.000And through her experience, and then she said to me, Will, there's two things I never want you to do.
01:37:31.000One of them is to go on a carnival ride, right?
01:37:33.000And the second is to ride a motorcycle.
01:37:36.000Like, and that's just, you know, that's her thing.
01:37:38.000Like, she was like, if you don't do those two things, you'll probably be okay.
01:37:40.000But the carnival rides, the temporary, you know, she's like, amusement parks, fine.
01:37:49.000I think, I think people, uh, you know, the way I approach the riding the motorcycle is just, I do very different things, right?
01:37:55.000So when I'm getting off the highway, I do a right turn three times instead of taking a left turn.
01:38:00.000And, you know, it might, might sound paranoid or whatever, but I, there was a story right now about this like, uh, amateur skateboarder, like not, not like somebody who's actually paid to do it.
01:38:19.000I treat it like, you know, there's a very, very high risk factor.
01:38:23.000So, you know, you've got to go with traffic, but when I'm exiting, we actually have a way we can come to the property where you don't turn left off of the highway when it winds down.
01:38:31.000You turn right and then loop around and then go down.
01:38:34.000So those right turns are faster, easier, safer.
01:38:36.000I'm not I'm not planning on taking this bike on you know using it for everything short short rides and stuff But I was reading I think it's like one in four people get an accident Yeah, my dad was a fireman for 25 years also named Tim and the worst injury He got was before he was a fireman on a motorcycle He hit something on the road and flew over the front of the bike and then the bike ran him over and broke his leg And he has a big iron rod metal rod in his leg Wow.
01:38:59.000still to this day? Yeah, no, I mean a good friend of ours, I don't know if you know Alec Baker,
01:39:02.000but he's like sort of in conservative world. He worked for I think Cassie Dillon for a while or
01:39:08.000something like that, but anyway he got a motorcycle three weeks later, had a massive injury, broke his
01:39:11.000leg in like three places. He was a year of rehab. So. Wow, what happened? I think he just got,
01:39:17.000I don't know if it was rear-ended, but he got hit by a jeep.
01:40:09.000I saw a post, I don't know if it's true, and they were like, a company announced vaccine mandates, and then they mentioned it was an airport.
01:40:16.000They were like, the sea terminal at some airport.
01:40:18.000The restaurant owner mandated everybody get vaccine mandates, and then the next day, half the staff didn't show up, so all the restaurants were closed, and he sent out an email saying the policies were rescinded, everyone come to work.
01:40:29.000Yeah, I mean, I have enormous respect for people who do not comply with the mandates and make serious sacrifices like that.
01:40:37.000I don't think everybody's in a position to do that, and I don't begrudge people who don't, right?
01:40:42.000Like, some people need the money, some people, for whatever reason, they need the money, they just can't be unemployed and treat those people as having been coerced, right?
01:40:51.000Like, they've been meaningfully coerced into doing it.
01:40:59.000Because he's not just giving up his current year's salary.
01:41:04.000He's giving up his chance at an extension with the team he currently works with.
01:41:08.000And the way the NBA pay structure works.
01:41:09.000I mean, I don't know if it'll be ultimately a full $200 million loss, but it'll be substantial because if you switch teams, the amount you can sign for is dramatically reduced and the years are reduced too.
01:41:18.000And sponsorship deals and advertisements, all of that.
01:41:21.000It's a very, very brave thing to be doing.
01:41:28.000You compare this to things like widespread BLM protests where they're basically just doing what the establishment wanted, everybody went along with it, no meaningful risk.
01:41:38.000If anything, the risk is not going along with it.
01:41:41.000Um, and you compare that to this where he's just completely out on an island with everyone from the corporations, the administration, the mainstream media, everyone just giving it to him.
01:42:21.000Nick says, and I'm gonna read it verbatim.
01:42:24.000Is Tim, you're either dumb or naive if the DOJ will do nothing in support of the January 6th rioters, but you won't read this because it's critical of why.
01:43:01.000Is it maybe like he's trying to say that the DOJ won't, will throw the book at the rioters and you're dumb and naive if you think they won't?
01:43:26.000When a police officer stops you and says you are under arrest, you are not being detained, you have been arrested.
01:43:33.000It's like a more extreme form of detention?
01:43:35.000Well, I mean, so detained is like, there's something called like a Terry stop, right?
01:43:41.000Like, so basically if an officer has a reasonable suspicion that criminal activity is afoot, They can stop you and frisk you, for example, and they can ask you questions.
01:43:50.000Under those circumstances, you are being detained.
01:43:51.000You are not free to leave, but there's a natural time limit on that.
01:43:56.000Most jurisdictions, I think it's 45 minutes.
01:44:07.000When you're arrested, there is no time limit and you're not free to leave.
01:44:10.000However, being arrested doesn't mean you're going to be charged or processed.
01:44:15.000People don't know this because they get their information from TV shows.
01:44:19.000So when I was stopped by the cops and told three times by the supervisor, you have been placed under arrest, you are not free to leave, sit down and wait, and then left.
01:44:27.000And also, you are not free to leave when you're being detained either, it's just that there's that time limit on it.
01:44:31.000And I think the standard is, like, it's a reasonable suspicion when you're being detained, right?
01:44:34.000Like, the cop just can't just stop and frisk you for no good reason at all, right?
01:44:37.000Like, you have to have, like, some suspicion.
01:44:40.000But to arrest you, right, which means that they can bring you to jail, book you, etc., they need to have probable cause that you committed a crime.
01:44:48.000So there was a group of people that were surrounded by cops.
01:44:51.000This was a large, black-block, antifa-type group that had been starting fires and smashing windows, and everybody in that group got Surrounded by all the police and they came out and said you have all been placed under arrest You are not free to go and we are now going to start loading people up into the vans one at a time People were held there for like eight hours or something However for me after the supervisor told me three times to my face outside of the formal announcement He said sir, you've been arrested just wait and I said, I'm just letting you know.
01:45:19.000He's like, okay and Eventually, a local news outlet boss called the department and said, why are you arresting our journalists?
01:45:34.000And I gave it to him and he goes, all right, you can leave.
01:45:36.000So when you're told several times you are not being detained, you are being arrested and you can't leave and you sit there for over an hour, that is not a detainment.
01:45:43.000Do they need to tell you what you're being arrested for, even if they don't book you?
01:46:00.000Because it's like law and order, right?
01:46:02.000They place the person under arrest, walk them off the handcuffs, and read them as Miranda rights.
01:46:05.000Generally speaking, people only read their Miranda rights when they're subject to a custodial interrogation, because the entire point of Miranda is so you can use the testimony in court.
01:46:14.000But if you're not interrogating someone, you don't need to Mirandize them.
01:46:17.000If the police watch you throw a brick or see a group of people with you in it throw a brick and they decide there's going to be criminal charges against this group, they don't need to investigate any further.
01:46:28.000Their testimony is, I watched him do it.
01:46:32.000My fellow officer is a witness who watched him do it.
01:46:34.000They're not going to read you your rights.
01:46:36.000Yeah, and also generally the way it works is before, you know, you've seen the, you know, this is the thing,
01:46:41.000you know, there's the custodial interrogation room where the police officer come in and ask questions of them.
01:46:45.000Before that starts, you are handed a piece of paper and that's how you are given your rights generally
01:46:50.000is that you, you know, on the piece of paper and you sign, you know, that you've been made aware
01:46:55.000of your Miranda rights and then they can come in and start questioning you.
01:48:18.000You can sign up to get a ticket for another person.
01:48:21.000If they're not members, they won't be let in unless they're with you.
01:48:24.000So you can get a ticket for a plus one.
01:48:25.000We went over a lot of ways to try and figure out the best way to go about doing this.
01:48:29.000So the idea is if you're a $25 member or more, then you would get advance notice.
01:48:33.000And so right now the post is only available to people who are members at $25 or more.
01:48:36.000The $10 members didn't have access to it because we wanted to be like, for those that are really diehard fans, we want to make sure you can come.
01:48:47.000So you could click RSVP, get a ticket, and then have your friend, significant other, wife, whatever, also get a ticket, and then they could come with you, but they could only get in if they were with someone, because we're going to check at the door, which meant basically about a hundred tickets.
01:49:01.000Because we were initially planning on only doing like 30, and we're like, we'll do a real venue.
01:49:05.000And it's just, I think the harsh realities of life is there's no way for us to do an event that would work in this way if we had 1,000 tickets or 2,000 tickets or 3,000.
01:49:16.000Because you get to that point, it's no longer a hangout meet and greet.
01:49:20.000It's just us on stage waving to you and then leaving.
01:49:23.000The Daily Wire did recently, there are videos on, check them out, where they have like a thousand person event.
01:49:29.000Those are cool too, but they're different than meetings.
01:49:31.000So what they did, what they did was that, with that was they had 300 people who got tickets to do like a meet and greet thing with them out of those 2,000.
01:49:38.000So they had a big event, but they had a very much smaller event where they actually were like shaking hands and like making people exhausted by having these small conversations.
01:49:46.000I will just make sure I stress this point right now.
01:49:49.000If someone shows up and doesn't have a ticket, they can't get in because we are just going to a small private venue and we don't have the capacity.
01:49:57.000So if you have a ticket, you can come.
01:50:00.000And my apologies, if we could have done a better job, we will learn from this and we'll do something better.
01:50:04.000But let me just stress as well with Fridamastan, we are planning to never have this problem again because we're going to just have a big open field and we're going to have an event Perhaps the Free Dome.
01:50:23.000Yeah, Freedom, Freedomistan's Freedom Party or something.
01:50:26.000And then we can actually accommodate like a couple hundred more people.
01:50:29.000And then still, you know, it is difficult to hang out and meet people and play pool and watch comedy when you have, like, this massive, massive show.
01:50:36.000I didn't want to do a, you know, a stadium thing.
01:50:38.000I didn't want to do, like, a big venue, you know, because then it's basically just doing a show and waving to people and they get to look at you, but then you don't get to actually hang out and meet people.
01:53:26.000Yeah, the joke is that they're smart enough not to drink their water after they crap in it, but they're not smart enough not to crap in their own water.
01:54:04.000Yeah, the original older chickens, the parents and everything, just like look at them and like get all confused and look at me and then just walk away.
01:54:09.000The most they do is they like, you know, jump at them and then just go back about their business to like shoo them away.
01:54:14.000But yeah, yeah, the chicken babies are getting pretty big.
01:54:17.000So I was trying to move them away from one another.
01:54:19.000It was really funny to look out the window and see Tim walking with chickens on his arms.
01:56:13.000The Republican Party is the party of McConnell and Lindsey Graham.
01:56:16.000Rand Paul's, like, the one guy who's actively, like... Josh Hawley.
01:56:19.000Yeah, and Hawley... Yeah, like, I don't know how you... I mean, if you think that Josh Hawley and Ron DeSantis and Ted Cruz and Cotton, like, Peter Thiel, my guys, are the Rhinos, then, like...
01:56:31.000I don't know what Republican party you're a part of, but it's not the one I understand that exists.
01:56:54.000James Garlic says, Tim, I watch all of your content every day.
01:56:57.000Unfortunately, I always have to go to your channel to watch your two daily Timcast as it's shadow band for me to keep up, uh, for me to keep up the good work.
01:57:05.000All of you, you know, that's, uh, that's, that's, that's what YouTube does.
01:57:09.000You can go to his channel and go through a bunch of videos, like open up like 30 or 40 of his videos and like them all.
01:57:14.000And like a bunch of videos from the channel.
01:58:04.000Ethan Klein is well entitled to do commentary on pop culture and stuff, but man, telling people to purposefully be irresponsible and not actually consult doctors was just one of the most ridiculous things.
01:58:20.000I thought the whole Crowder stunt was ridiculous.
01:58:22.000The one where he agreed to a debate and then he brought on somebody else to do the debate that he had agreed to.
02:01:13.000We are going to be launching a bunch of NFTs.
02:01:16.000So we're going to be doing, you know, you know, I think one of the best things that anyone can do for especially a show like this is sell and give away as much of our stuff as possible.
02:01:28.000We could, we could do a giveaway, you know, where we like, we'll do like half to charity and half to the company or whatever to support our journalists.
02:01:35.000Or we can be like for Open Network Foundation.
02:01:37.000So we could say something like, you know, uh, we have, uh, yeah, like Ian's Obsidian Rock could be put up and like, if you want to get this, it's Ian's rocks.
02:01:44.000He has everyone, he hands them to everybody.
02:01:46.000And then that money can go to fund the Open Network Fund.
02:01:49.000This is a wonderful, like almost fidget spinner type thing.
02:01:52.000And then we're going to do NFT is the same thing.
02:01:54.000So there can be like an NFT version, and then someone could buy it.
02:01:57.000And then we use that money to fund the nonprofits, the charities, the fact checking.
02:02:00.000Something I want to do with the nonprofit charity that we just started is not only will be paying the developers that are building out the metaverse, but I think we can use charity funds to host a node to actually host bandwidth.
02:02:11.000And that can be like part of the charity function.
02:02:13.000Yep, server space, actually, you know, making it work.
02:02:16.000So we're gonna do NFTs, we're gonna do event auctions, we're gonna do a whole bunch of stuff.
02:02:20.000And, you know, the most important thing, I think, for people is that, you know, having a part of the show, having a part of the art, having something that, like, allows you to be a part of it and have something unique no one else can have.
02:02:30.000Like, if we sold this, like, only you would have it.
02:02:34.000Only the one person who got it would actually have it.
02:02:37.000And that would be you, Unique, along with the NFTs.
02:02:39.000With that being said, my friends, make sure you smash that like button.
02:03:36.000There's no profit and it's our uniform.
02:03:38.000So thanks guys for supporting me and having me here.
02:03:42.000It's always fun to be able to say whatever I want when I want, and to be able to express myself here, so thanks so much.
02:03:48.000I would only ask, Lydia, that you cue up the wide shot.
02:03:51.000I want you guys at home to, wherever you are listening, to see if you can spot that gorilla with the obsidian between his legs when this shot comes up.
02:04:27.000I've never posted anything unkind, nothing rude, nothing bullying, and they're threatening to take my whole account down over stuff that I posted well over a year ago.
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