On this week's episode of the Shimcast, we're joined by the one and only Libby Emmons (Postmillennial Events) and Hannah Clare (HannahClaire Brimlow) to talk about the joys of being on a farm with other beanied journalists. Plus, the Democratic Party denounces RFK, a pro-pedophile group slams the sound of freedom, and many other stories.
00:00:50.000So we sent him off to a farm where he's gonna run around with all of the other beanied journalists all day long and he's gonna have a great time.
00:00:59.000Well, you know, Tim's been getting a little older and he's not able to skateboard as much as he liked to.
00:01:48.000Ladies and gentlemen, tonight's stories, the Democrats are denouncing RFK after the New York Post has accused him of anti-Semitism.
00:01:58.000Gays Against Groomers did a sting operation on Planned Parenthood and the Community Healthcare Network.
00:02:02.000It's a very interesting story we're going to get into.
00:02:04.000In a bit, Obama slams concerned parents who want to ban pornographic material from schools, regurgitating the same banal, this-is-book-banning rhetoric we've been hearing from everyone.
00:02:15.000On the left, a pro-pedophile group slams the sound of freedom, unsurprisingly, that and many other stories coming up tonight.
00:02:24.000But first, I'd like to ask every single one of you, to smash that like button.
00:02:28.000I want you to smash that like button so hard that our buddy Tim feels it from the farm he's on right now.
00:03:46.000So I was in Colorado doing this music video.
00:03:50.000Well, I don't want to spoil it, but basically I'm doing a body transformation for the music video, and I was hitting the gym hard, and I'm doing protein.
00:03:58.000I've got to eat 2,800 calories a day now.
00:04:07.000I'm just sitting in slim silence, you know, so this is new for me.
00:04:10.000I've been chugging protein shakes and eating chicken for most of the day, but man, it feels good once you get past that 20 minutes after that burn of your bicep.
00:04:19.000It's just like, you know, you get back to basics and then you let the calories do the rest, I suppose.
00:04:24.000I'm glad to hear it gets shredded, man.
00:04:37.000All right, so tonight's first story, RFK has been slammed as anti-Semitic for a claim he made that there's a conversation that needs to be had surrounding some allegations that COVID is more likely to, in fact, or is more likely to result in mortality among certain ethnic groups.
00:04:56.000So we can watch this video right now, and then we'll talk about what some of the people in the press are saying about him.
00:05:04.000Ooh, actually, do you think YouTube might get mad at us if we play this whole thing?
00:05:19.000So, basically, RFK said, as I mentioned, and he wasn't even saying that he necessarily believed that this was the case, but he's saying that there needs to be a conversation surrounding the fact That according to him, certain studies are showing that COVID does seem to disproportionately affect certain people.
00:05:34.000And he was claiming that the effect that it's having on people is based on genetic factors that are linked to ethnic or racial background.
00:05:42.000Now, I find it very interesting that the left is losing their minds about this because they were actually saying very similar things about COVID during the pandemic.
00:06:23.000I mean, they were constantly claiming that the African-American community, particularly the black community, is being disproportionately affected by COVID.
00:06:29.000And because of this, we needed to be sure that they got the vaccines first.
00:06:32.000And so RFK, he's saying something a bit different because he is outwardly making the claim that this is based on genetic predisposition, not necessarily cultural factors, but I don't even know if he's making that claim, or if he's just saying that is a claim we have to investigate.
00:06:43.000Exactly, but what happens when we listen to this, and if you listen to him talking, he starts it off with saying, there's an argument that, and then he starts talking that, this does this, and this does this, and if you take it out of context, it sounds like he's saying, this does this, and this does this, but he preempts it with, there's an argument that there are like genetic bioweapons, basically.
00:07:51.000Well, our reporter took this quote and well, what's interesting too is if you look at the headline and you look at the story, they don't really match.
00:08:00.000So it seems like I know John Levine wrote the story.
00:08:03.000I wonder if John Levine wrote the headline or if someone else wrote that headline.
00:08:07.000I know you guys are in a newsroom, right?
00:08:09.000We have people doing graphics, we have people doing headlines, we have people writing stories, and the graphic, the headline, and the story could all come from completely different people on the same team.
00:08:20.000You're saying like, oh, this is what it's about.
00:08:22.000I think it's interesting to me, my first instinct when I see these kinds of conflicts is to say like, wow, RFK really has them on the ropes.
00:08:30.000They do not like this guy's perspective.
00:08:33.000I mean, this is them really starting to launch into the Trump treatment of RFK.
00:08:37.000So for a while they were saying, he's a quack, he's spreading misinformation, he's a huckster, he's trying to sell snake oil and fool people about the medical science for his own personal gain.
00:08:46.000The typical kind of stuff you hear about anyone who gets labeled a conspiracy theorist by the establishment.
00:08:50.000But now they're actually moving into this guy's racist territory, right?
00:08:53.000They're openly referring to him as an anti-Semite simply because he said he wanted to have a discussion.
00:08:58.000about the degree to which COVID seems to have affected different populations.
00:09:02.000Now, of course, the left was very comfortable having the conversation about the effects COVID had on different populations, again, in 2020, in 2021, when they claimed it was disproportionately affecting the African American community, the black community.
00:09:13.000Well, if there's anyone who can recognize anti-Semitism, it should be the people on the Democrat side, because they are really anti-Semitic in a lot of cases.
00:09:22.000Pramila Jayapal came out the other day and was saying that Israel is a racist state, You have Ilhan Omar, who is decidedly anti-Semitic.
00:09:32.000It seems to be, in a lot of cases, what the Democrats accuse other people of doing is the thing that they are doing themselves.
00:09:47.000They're saying, He's a conspiracy theorist.
00:09:49.000He's saying COVID is a bioweapon and this is a term that people will generally associate with conspiracy theory and because it's so bombastic, it sounds frightening.
00:09:57.000But according to Sir Francis Boyle, the American author of the American implementing legislation of the International Bioweapons Convention, Anything created through gain-of-function research is a bioweapon.
00:10:10.000So if it's created through gain-of-function research, which many of these institutions are now acknowledging, given that they're saying lab leak hypothesis is more than likely, then it is a bioweapon.
00:10:28.000Even though he's literally the person who is responsible for implementing that legislation and writing around it, and they're saying, he's a lawyer, not an epidemiologist, how can he be saying it's a biological weapon?
00:10:38.000Well, because whether something's a biological weapon is not a question of epidemiology, it's a question of law, and he literally wrote the thing.
00:10:45.000This is something that's bothering me right now.
00:10:47.000So I'm looking at the New York Times article titled Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
00:10:50.000airs bigoted new COVID conspiracy theory about Jews and Chinese.
00:11:04.000And to be fair, you could see it all over Twitter too.
00:11:06.000Everyone starts coming out saying that RFK is racist and anti-semitic and hateful and all of these kinds of things.
00:11:13.000It really was this classic snowball effect where you have, you know, one headline drove everything.
00:11:21.000A lot of the people who are talking about this story, I wonder if they even read the article or watched the interview or just ran with the headline.
00:11:47.000And regardless of the fact that you don't necessarily have to take medical advice from a politician, I understand that.
00:11:53.000It is interesting that this was the brand they were going to use to hurt his campaign from the beginning, and now they're just sort of going back and trying to find more evidence of this.
00:12:04.000And that's why I think it's an important conversation to have.
00:12:06.000Was this quote accurately represented in the article?
00:12:53.000Before she was ever elected to office, she made a very long Facebook post where she was saying things which, by the way, I'm not defending, I don't agree with, but she was basically saying that she thought that forest fires were started She basically floated the question they may have been started by a satellite which was funded by organizations that people claim it is anti-semitic to criticize.
00:13:15.000It's basically the equivalent of saying, oh, if you say something negative about George Soros, you're an anti-semitic conspiracy theorist.
00:13:20.000Marjorie Taylor Greene never, ever, ever said the Jewish space lasers thing.
00:14:29.000Well, and if you're an enemy of the Democrats, you're probably a friend of the people too.
00:14:33.000I've got the feeling that like these organizations, somebody, maybe somewhere actually saw it out of context and was like, he said these things and then they printed it.
00:14:41.000And then whether or not they believe they were going to get them out of context and make stuff, maybe they're making stuff up maliciously.
00:14:46.000Maybe they actually thought it, but I think that then the White House and the people in the O'Biden camp.
00:14:51.000I think we should call it the O'Biden camp.
00:16:02.000But that is actually the biggest problem for Democrats right now, because their own base is not really sure what to make of them, right?
00:16:09.000A third party candidate in our system is actually dangerous, not because they could win the White House, but because they could take away from the base of one of these two parties.
00:16:16.000Exactly, and so I would actually argue in many ways the left-wing press is more afraid of RFK than they are of Trump, just in the sense that we know they kind of wanted to prop Trump up.
00:16:24.000At least some of them did for their quote-unquote Pied Piper strategy.
00:16:27.000We learned this from the email leaks we got from the Clinton campaign.
00:16:31.000The truth is that They think that they can beat Trump.
00:16:36.000I'm not saying that's true, but they believe they can.
00:16:39.000They have no idea what to do with RFK.
00:16:43.000And they're also afraid of him changing the status quo of the Democratic Party.
00:16:45.000One of Trump's accomplishments, one of the things you absolutely cannot take away from him, is he pushed all the neocons and the warhawks out of the Republican Party, or at least the majority of them.
00:16:53.000A lot of them are in their Congress saying that we need to have more funding for Ukraine.
00:16:57.000Yes, some of them are, but like he pushed Liz Cheney out, he definitely changed the status quo, he made it clear that there was a massive base of Republican voters who were not going to go for that crap.
00:17:05.000The entire Republican establishment or the vast majority of Republican politicians who are popular are speaking out against intervening in Ukraine.
00:17:14.000So a lot has changed in the Republican Party with respect to the messaging on warfare because of Trump.
00:17:18.000Isn't it really just the Freedom Caucus people?
00:17:20.000Well, I think they're afraid that RFK is basically going to do something similar to the Democratic Party, where he's going to make it a more hostile environment for people who support those kinds of policies.
00:17:31.000I don't know if I'd go that far, but I think there is something to be said for him being a little bit more in that direction than anyone else in the Democratic Party.
00:18:45.000In the JFK, you know, conspiracy theory is actually probably the most popular one that we have any polling data on.
00:18:52.000At one point, 90% of the American public believed some kind of conspiracy was at play.
00:18:56.000In fact, the United States House Select Committee on Assassinations, which was formed in The 1970s, 1976 I believe, ended up saying that there was some kind of conspiracy.
00:19:06.000They didn't say it was the CIA or the Russians or anything like that, but it's interesting because in contrast to the Warren Report, which is the government document that says there was no conspiracy, we actually have another document produced by the United States government which says there was some kind of conspiracy.
00:19:19.000Even though they don't name names, even though they don't say this is who we think did it, they do say there was probably something at play that people aren't being informed of.
00:19:24.000It's so funny to officially say there was no conspiracy, because like, how do you know?
00:19:49.000And I think that more Democrats who are positioning themselves against the establishment, or maybe to put it this way, who the establishment is positioning itself against, need to take that attitude.
00:20:01.000Obviously I'm on the right, obviously I'm gonna vote Republican, but whenever an anti-establishment candidate rises up in a party and ends up pushing them away from the kind of big government, welfare, warfare, state status quo, I'm happy about that.
00:20:33.000They're not able to attack his platform.
00:20:35.000They just have to go for these, like, very racially charged, you know, But that's their whole playbook, right?
00:20:45.000They set somebody up, they say that they're a problem with their racial views or what have you, and that's what they do, and that's how they take people down.
00:20:52.000You can even see that with their attacks on Ron DeSantis, right?
00:20:56.000You have Joy Reid coming out and all of these others saying that Ron DeSantis is more dangerous than Trump, that he's more racist, more LGBT anti or whatever than Trump, all of this kind of stuff.
00:21:09.000So whoever it is that is a threat to the establishment power is going to be attacked with the exact same insults and the exact same smears.
00:21:19.000And what I think is really fascinating, I keep looking, so I grew up relatively liberal, right, in Massachusetts.
00:21:26.000Catholic, so I was pro-life, but used to be able to be pro-life and liberal and pro-labor and pro-life and liberal.
00:21:32.000That was like There is still a collection of pro-life Democrats.
00:21:37.000They just are like, why did you leave us behind?
00:21:59.000These are the views that are You know, taking charge that are shaping the country and they still act like they are oppressed.
00:22:07.000You have Joe Biden going out there like saying basically that the LGBT community is oppressed, but their flag was at the White House, bigger than the American flags.
00:22:17.000You know, he goes out and speaks more about transitioning kids than he does about what people actually need in this country.
00:22:26.000And speaking of transitioning kids, Gays Against Groomers recently did a sting operation where they had somebody pretending to be a 14-year-old girl, claiming to be trans, call Planned Parenthood, who then referred her to a community healthcare network for help, and they proceeded to tell her that they would give her information on obtaining certain Treatments, despite her being underage, she said, I don't want my parents to find out about this.
00:22:56.000We will play some... Do you guys remember being 14?
00:23:12.000We have this moment here from, again, the footage that Gays Against Groomers has posted to Twitter, where the person impersonating a 14-year-old tells the people at the organization that Planned Parenthood referred her to that she is a minor, that she doesn't want her parents to find out, and this is what they say.
00:24:24.000But the only thing is right now I'm already at the end of August looking and I'm not getting any appointments.
00:24:30.000Alright so you guys get the picture here basically this person's underage they're saying they don't want their parents to know about the treatment that they're seeking out and this person is saying don't worry we won't tell them it's a code Cindy.
00:24:41.000Now I want to point something out because I'm sure a lot of apologists for Planned Parenthood are going to make the claim That this wasn't Planned Parenthood saying that she should do this, they were just referring her.
00:24:52.000Which is kind of an interesting point, because Planned Parenthood has claimed for decades that they perform mammograms and give women mammograms, when they actually don't have a single mammogram on site at any of their clinics, they just refer women to clinics where they can get them.
00:25:08.000But of course we know they're going to embrace that double standard and say, No, we weren't actually providing any of this care.
00:25:14.000We were just telling this person where we could get or where they could get it.
00:25:18.000That said, maybe they bite the bullet and they say this is affirming care.
00:25:22.000It's abusive and horrible not to give it to them.
00:25:25.000I also wonder if this organization that she was referred to is going to say, oh, well, when we said we wanted to give her medical care, We're just talking about, like, medical care that's necessary for her life, which is a dodge that they usually use in order to not acknowledge that they're giving these children hormones that stunt their development to groom them on a path towards mutilation.
00:25:45.000Yeah, I mean, the Planned Parenthood, at the beginning of the recording, refers this person, who's obviously an adult, posing as a 14-year-old, to the Community Healthcare Network.
00:25:54.000The Community Healthcare Network, when This person asks, like, I need help.
00:25:58.000He's like, what do you want specifically?
00:26:03.000And he's the operator specifically brings up hormone therapy.
00:26:08.000So they are all aware of what a minor who identifies as transgender may possibly be seeking out or they're aware of what specifically to offer.
00:26:17.000They do mention mental health care as one of the services they provide.
00:26:20.000They also mention medical intervention in the form of hormones.
00:26:24.000And I find it interesting that we would have anyone trying to deny this, right?
00:26:31.000Like, why, when you have this kind of recording, wouldn't you just double down on, like, well, we're supposed to be doing this?
00:26:37.000Like, this is where this kind of logic falls apart to me.
00:26:43.000Then they say, we are doing it, and it's good.
00:26:46.000A similar thing happened when Libs of TikTok called, I forget what the name of the hospital was, but it was a children's hospital.
00:26:53.000This was last summer in Washington DC.
00:26:56.000Boston was the first thing and that whole thing was very interesting because we did some, Post Millennial did some reporting about what was going on at Boston Children's Hospital.
00:27:04.000We had the intake forms, we had the forms that said vaginoplasty would be performed on young men at the age of 17.
00:27:13.000We had these on The actual documentation from Boston Children's Hospital, the one for young women to have phalloplasties, right, was at 18.
00:27:27.000However, you could get it at 18, which means that there was prep prior to that, probably.
00:27:35.000And so what was interesting about that was LibSivTikTok posted that Boston Children's Hospital was doing hysterectomies on minors.
00:27:41.000And that's what everyone got slammed for, was that she was saying that.
00:27:46.000We don't have evidence that they weren't necessarily doing that.
00:27:48.000We only have their word, but they also scrubbed their site.
00:27:51.000Anyway, so after that, Lips of TikTok, Chaya, she called the Washington Children's Hospital.
00:27:58.000She posed Very, very obviously and transparently, actually, if I remember correctly, as a mom seeking to get, you know, sex change for her underage child.
00:28:53.000The mom was, as being posing as this 15-year-old girl, the mom was referred to all of these services to get more gender medical services.
00:29:05.000And when she tried to, at another instance, when she tried to get information on detransitioning, The Trevor Project was decidedly unhelpful and said things like, are you sure that you want to detransition?
00:29:19.000This sounds like internalized transphobia.
00:29:53.000Well, my favorite was like, can you spell your email?
00:29:55.000And this person goes like, Emma's in Mary, da-da-da-da-da.
00:29:58.000Like, if you're 14, you're not doing that because you've never had to deal with that many calls.
00:30:02.000You just keep saying M waiting for somebody to understand what you're saying.
00:30:05.000I think what I noticed about that call is that the guy on the other end of the line was like, as long as it's not harmful to the person.
00:30:10.000And there's this, I guess the divergence of the entire global conversation on this is, are the chemicals harmful for 14 year olds or younger or whatever, or are they not?
00:30:20.000And I think that's part of the problem is that the information is not clearly presented.
00:31:16.000But that doctor has had a number of complications from patients because of the type, the way that she does it where there's, what is it, no drainage.
00:31:26.000And so people end up, young women have ended up with rotting flesh on their bodies and had to go to hospitals.
00:31:33.000And hospitals are like, you're going to die.
00:31:41.000I understand that there is an argument for you have to be conscious of someone's emotional state and we're trying to be compassionate and open-minded and whatever else, and I understand that that's where certain positions on these issues come from, but I think ultimately, if you just go back and say, well, what are the consequences of taking high doses of estrogen, of testosterone, of removing tissue that's naturally occurring in your body, of disrupting the parts of your body that regulate your hormones?
00:32:07.000There is no way that there are not costs and consequences.
00:32:10.000And I think we can all agree in this room that under the age of 18, you are not in a position to make a fully informed decision.
00:32:15.000And I think part of the problem is that over 18, the information is still not presented.
00:33:10.000If you put a child on these hormones, There are!
00:33:13.000even if you're waiting until they're 18 to actually perform the surgical interventions,
00:33:17.000you've already warped their mind in the direction of embracing that intervention to the point where
00:33:21.000you couldn't say they've actually consented. Even if you did consent to something like that,
00:33:24.000it would be wrong because healthy body parts are not meant to be removed,
00:33:28.000emulated, but even so, you can't make the argument that it's not grooming just because they waited
00:33:32.000until the person was over the age of 18 to intervene surgically because groomers wait
00:33:36.000until the person they're preying upon is over 18.
00:33:38.000I disagree with you when it comes to relationships and things like that.
00:33:42.000I mean, if a man is 40 and he has a relationship with an 18-year-old girl, But if he knew her when he was 15 and he's planting seeds at like when she was 15 I'm saying yeah we recognize universally that that's grooming.
00:33:57.000Yeah I mean I think that we see stuff like that throughout history um you know but I don't I don't think that you can make those kind of You kind of have to meet people where they stand, right?
00:34:09.000People have weird relationships all the time.
00:34:11.000Yeah, but a grown man knowing someone when she's underage and then dating her when she's 18 is totally grueling.
00:34:15.000Sure, like, I mean, my, you know, in my family I've seen relationships where the man is 31 and the woman is 20 and they get together.
00:34:22.000That's different, that's an age gap, but that's not, they knew each other when she was like a minor and young and vulnerable, and then as soon as she turns 18 they're together.
00:34:30.000What you're picking up on is if someone saw a 14-year-old and thought, on some level,
00:34:34.000I'm conscious this person is not of legal consenting age, so I'm going to continue to
00:34:38.000build what could ultimately translate into an intimate relationship and the conversations
00:34:42.000that happened beforehand, like, while there may not be any physical contact, it's not
00:34:45.000something that you would necessarily want a 14-year-old to do.
00:34:47.000It's not something that you would necessarily want, but I don't think we can illegalize
00:34:52.000gender transition or sex changes for people who are of age, and I don't think that we
00:34:56.000can similarly illegalize or make illegal, is the correct terminology, relationships
00:35:10.000And I think what you're talking about, too, is a separate issue, which is the decline
00:35:14.000of values, the decline of morality, and the decline of a valuing of childhood innocence,
00:35:20.000But the difference between morality and values and what is legally acceptable.
00:35:26.000And I think we do have to make that distinction.
00:35:28.000There have been people who have detransitioned that I've spoken to who underwent gender transition sex changes as adults who fully regret having been castrated.
00:35:39.000They underwent that surgery in their 20s.
00:35:41.000There was nothing to stop them legally from doing that.
00:35:45.000They are advocating for there to be more information about this for adults as well, and I think that that's fully valid and there should be a lot more information about that.
00:35:54.000Because I think that can't make it illegal.
00:35:58.000I think that's the biggest issue is that we use all of our scientific data, and I think conservatives can be guilty of this too, in a way that benefits us rather than being like, here are the pros and cons, here are the risks.
00:36:11.000If you as a kid were around someone who was very open to you potentially transitioning when you're 18, I would hope that you were just as informed of the lifelong consequences of your decisions and the surgical or medical intervention all along.
00:36:25.000Like, if you are never given a full picture of what you're about to commit yourself to, then it's very hard to know whether that's And I think that's a huge problem.
00:36:34.000People don't get accurate information and the accurate information is just not available in a lot of cases.
00:36:39.000And I think in this case it's done on purpose to then encourage people to make these choices.
00:36:45.000They're saying that ultimately these things will make you happy when we know that that doesn't bear out and we know that there are consequences all along.
00:36:53.000Well, kind of from a wider view, just beyond, like, transitioning and sexual stuff, like, grooming in general isn't necessarily... it's neutral.
00:36:59.000Like, you groom someone to become something.
00:37:01.000And whether you could groom them to become some healthy adult, a parent grooms their child to become a successful parent, like, that's a form... in the military, you're groomed to become a soldier.
00:37:09.000Like, these are... you're preparing them to become something.
00:37:11.000So if you're grooming them for sex of a minor, that's where it is.
00:37:27.000Yeah, I mean, there's a difference between like, this person is being groomed for the promotion versus like, we're grooming a child.
00:37:32.000A 40-year-old grooms a 16-year-old girl, and then when she's 18, they may be talking, and then when she's 18, they get married, and they have a happy, loving family.
00:38:05.000So I think it's that thing where, like, people have trouble finding out where the line is, especially when it comes to intimate communication with a minor.
00:38:11.000And I don't know that we would solve it here in one night.
00:38:14.000For me, the biggest issue is, like, if you don't give- like, if a 16-year-old girl doesn't know, like, Hey, if this is making you uncomfortable, you can say no, even if this person is a family friend, even if you feel like you're obligated.
00:38:26.000Like, if there is not awareness of how to set boundaries, then you have all kinds of problems.
00:38:30.000Which is an issue of the breakdown of families, you know, the lack of real parenting.
00:38:36.000I got yelled at on Twitter the other day because I called a teacher a groomer who was telling a 10-year-old to delete an email discussing Um, gender identity stuff.
00:38:46.000And the teacher was like, delete this email so your parents don't see it.
00:38:50.000And I was like, this is what a groomer looks like.
00:38:52.000And everyone was like, that's not a groomer.
00:38:54.000No, groomers ask you to keep secrets from your parents.
00:39:05.000And I also, I don't like the idea that, you know, it's okay for someone to have this surgery You know, the day they turn 18, but the day before they turn 18 when they're 17, this surgery's awful.
00:39:49.000So we had a reporter looking into it last year, and she found that Jazz's father was saying, no, you can't get a tattoo because it's too permanent.
00:40:00.000And then in the next scene, they were talking about cutting Jazz's dick off.
00:40:18.000Is it from video games and people being stuck on the internet and thinking they're just not in touch with their body because they're on the machine?
00:40:24.000I think it's the culture of social media that tells you you're supposed to be seeking affirmation all the time from the outside world, right?
00:40:31.000I mean, if you think about what are pronouns, if not saying what you think of me matters more than what I think of myself or what reality is, there's this constant effort to get other people to view you in a certain way to give you justification and satisfaction.
00:40:47.000And I remember growing up with the idea That it really didn't matter what other people thought.
00:40:52.000And so, you know, expressing yourself sort of in a punk rock way or whatever had more to do with saying, I don't care if you think I am ugly now.
00:41:01.000And now it's very much like if you express yourself the way you want to and then people don't celebrate it then.
00:41:07.000Because now you're supposed to say, I made myself look ugly, but you have to tell me I'm beautiful.
00:41:14.000It feels like the crowd is grooming the social media influencer.
00:41:18.000The influencer makes the post and then all the comments, if they're reading those comments, those comments are grooming them to become what the commenters want.
00:41:34.000And I think we still see stuff like that, whether it's on platforms that I certainly am not I'm not savvy in, like, Snapchat and TikTok, Discord, whatever the other ones are.
00:41:44.000I've got this feeling that Shane's about to blast us over to a new story, are you?
00:41:48.000No, yeah, well, I mean, it's relevant, but basically, in light of all of these things you guys are bringing up about the fact that this is externally imposed, the culture tries to send messages to people, we have former President Barack Obama.
00:42:25.000But they're okay with the idea that you wouldn't let an 18-year-old heterosexual boy go to a strip club, or a 17-year-old, you know, underage boy who's straight go to a strip club.
00:42:33.000Like, under some circumstances, we allow these things, but not under others.
00:42:37.000There's not an idea that, like, we're all in this to protect children.
00:43:08.000It's totally bizarre to me because you're telling me that You know, children who are LGBTQ identifying are more vulnerable for, you know, depression, for anxiety, for all kinds of things.
00:43:19.000Studies bear out that most of the time they are sexually active at a younger age, but yet... There's also a lot of abuse, I think.
00:43:26.000They're vulnerable in all sorts of ways, but yet, when you can take steps to protect them, you're saying, actually, no, they need to be exposed to these things.
00:43:33.000Like, how can you not see that that is bizarre, especially since you wouldn't treat straight children that way?
00:43:43.000But in an open letter to librarians, former President Barack Obama spoke out against the, quote, profoundly misguided book bans in school libraries.
00:43:53.000So the former president wrote an open letter to American librarians, and he appears in a TikTok video decrying right-wing censorship push.
00:44:02.000Now, I've mentioned this before, all of the rhetoric you're hearing about right-wing censorship in book bans is basically the left complaining about the fact that conservative parents have said that pornographic material cannot and should not be shown to children in public schools.
00:44:16.000And by the way, even the articles that claim to be sympathetic to this position, that these are book bans, acknowledge that this is a movement which is being led by parents.
00:44:25.000Parents are the ones saying, do not show this content to my children.
00:44:29.000It is not right-wing special interest groups saying, if you show this book to children it will expand their minds and it will reduce our control over the hegemonic narrative.
00:44:39.000It is literally parents saying, don't show porn to our children in the books that they are defending.
00:44:46.000are pornographic and have pornographic content in them.
00:44:49.000So, uh, in the letter, Barack Obama called it, uh, profoundly misguided.
00:44:53.000He said that books, including controversial books, shaped his life.
00:44:57.000Barack, I hope these kinds of books are not the ones that shaped your life.
00:45:02.000He said it's no coincidence that these banned books are often written by or feature people of color, indigenous people, and members of the LGBTQ community.
00:45:28.000It is kind of a weird coincidence that all of the books that are being banned because they have pornographic content in them are being supported by the LGBT community and your party.
00:45:41.000What do you guys think? I think one thing that's interesting is a lot of these books and I've spoken to Moms
00:45:46.000for Liberty about this And about the different books and different moms who are
00:45:49.000like, you know, we don't want genderqueer. We don't want flamer We don't want a lot of these books
00:45:53.000a lot of them are actually graphic novels and I wonder if it would be
00:45:57.000If anyone would even notice if they were not graphic novels because that's where you see this you see, you know
00:46:03.000lesbians fellating a strap on in genderqueer, and that's certainly not
00:46:10.000something that you would want in schools.
00:46:12.000And I think a lot of what is being missed is that it's not that people are asking for
00:46:17.000books to be banned, they're asking for age-appropriate material to be made available to students.
00:46:23.000You know, genderqueer has no business being taught.
00:46:25.000When I bought this book myself, we have it here on the table, I bought this book myself
00:46:29.000to check it out and to see what it was really about.
00:46:33.000And even worse than some of the images, what I thought was the most shocking was that the
00:46:37.000main character, who had been raised in a very weird, situation grows up to decide to be non-binary, and the book ends right as she is deciding to come out to a middle school class.
00:46:52.000And I'm thinking that's even more insidious.
00:46:54.000Why do people feel the need to... Why do teachers feel the need to express their personal sexual preferences, orientations, and, you know, gender expression to their students?
00:47:08.000You know, I remember some of my teachers were married, but I don't remember anything about them.
00:47:14.000I had one fourth grade teacher who brought us all over to her house, Mrs. Fife, and I remember even thinking at the time, like, this is weird.
00:47:30.000And it's not because they're not human and have their own lives and can do whatever.
00:47:33.000It's just because that's the setting in which children know them.
00:47:37.000Like, I want them to feel like there is a certain relationship in school, and I don't like the idea that you would blur the lines for your own emotional gratification, right?
00:47:45.000The other thing, too, is... Oh, I'm sorry.
00:47:47.000Oh, I was just gonna say, like, The Pope had this interesting comment on people having dogs, and I'm going to misquote it, and I know there are Catholics in the room.
00:47:56.000One of the reasons you like people have dogs is because there's less emotional work in this relationship than having children.
00:48:02.000And I think there is something similar that's happening here, where it's like, I specifically want children to be like, wow, we love you anyway, whoever you are.
00:48:10.000Because children are innocent, and when you feel like you have gotten gratification from them, you know, there is some sort of secure, trapped audience effect there.
00:48:18.000And I think that should be something we don't encourage.
00:48:20.000Also, these are teachers who never properly grew up.
00:48:24.000They're seeking to maintain their own childlike state.
00:48:28.000When I was a kid, which wasn't that long ago, but when I was a kid, you didn't even know your teacher's first name.
00:48:32.000The idea that your teacher is telling you about all the perverse sexual things they're doing behind the scenes is totally insane, but we know why it's happening, right?
00:48:40.000They want children to be exposed to their perverse lifestyle choices because grooming is essentially a kind of perverse exposure therapy.
00:48:47.000People intuitively recoil at perversion and degeneracy.
00:48:52.000So if you keep putting it in front of the child, the idea is you will slowly chip away at their intuitive sense that this is wrong.
00:48:58.000That's a huge deal too, like when you take a kid to drag story hour, right?
00:49:03.000Like if you do that, there are kids you can see in videos of this who recoil and the moms are like, and it's always moms, The moms are like, no honey, go ahead, that's totally fine, that's totally fine.
00:49:14.000Or the Washington Post article by a mom who was saying that she was taking her kid to the pride parade and wanted the kid to see kink and to normalize kink.
00:49:24.000Or the sex ed classes that emphasize pleasure in second grade and start teaching kids about masturbation.
00:49:30.000There's no reason for a sex ed class in second grade, period.
00:49:33.000But there's something more to this, too, which I also find a little disturbing, which is, and I'm just sort of expressing this for the first time, so if I screw it up, you know... You'll refine it later.
00:50:01.000Like I had this professor in college, Danny Kaiser, and we were studying James Joyce and Marcel Proust in his class and the first day of class he said, I don't know why you guys want me to teach you Joyce.
00:50:27.000But I think to a certain extent, like, when I wanted to read weird books when I was in high school, which, you know, like, I was a weird, curious kid.
00:50:47.000And so you have these people who are not just infiltrating the educational system and infiltrating that, but they're infiltrating the private thoughts of these kids who should be, if they're going to be thinking about these things, that should be their own private thoughts to a certain extent.
00:51:41.000This kind of pornographic content is being placed into public schools and public school libraries at a much higher rate than it was in the past.
00:51:47.000So it makes sense that you'd be seeing more More people trying to remove them.
00:51:51.000I think parents are also finally starting to wake up to this stuff being in the libraries at their kids schools or being taught in their classrooms.
00:51:57.000So it makes sense that they'd stand up and say something.
00:51:59.000But again, the article here acknowledges that this is led by parent groups who are saying stop Showing this stuff to our children and also this idea that there's such a thing as being too selective about what you're allowing your child to be exposed to when they're off at a school where you have no oversight over them through the course of the day other than the standards that you've gotten the school to agree to is total insanity.
00:52:28.000It is a good ...thing that parents are becoming more concerned with what their kids are looking at in schools.
00:52:33.000The fact that you try to frame that is something that- I see these numbers and I go, good, more parents are involved, more parents care about what their kids are reading.
00:52:40.000In their ideal world, the parents sit back and say, show whatever you want to my kids!
00:52:45.000Now, I happen to disagree with that, which is why I think the fact that 2,500 different titles are being pulled out of public schools and they're being told, you can't show these to our children, is good, because if parents don't want their kids seeing that stuff, then the kids shouldn't be looking at it.
00:55:09.000There shouldn't be secrets between parents and children.
00:55:11.000Obviously, over time, children develop independence and things like that, but the school shouldn't be able to be like, no, you're not allowed.
00:55:16.000It's just for me and your kids to look at.
00:57:10.000It doesn't claim to be representative of every single instance of abuse that occurs.
00:57:15.000Now, part of what's very interesting about this particular story is he's a former spokesman for an organization which tries to legitimize Pedophilia basically by insisting that pedophiles be referred to as MAPs or Minor Attracted Persons.
00:57:32.000This is a phrase that he has argued that people should be using.
00:57:37.000So I will open it up to all of you and get your opinion.
00:57:39.000Yeah, there's even a support group by Prostasia for people over the age of 13 to discuss their pedophiliac tendencies.
00:59:06.000So this organization, what it does is it talks about how this is an innate sort of thing, that you could be born with this condition, this predilection.
00:59:16.000We overcome all kinds of things that we are born with, right?
00:59:19.000Yeah, but I also, I mean, I totally reject the framing.
00:59:20.000There's a lot of people who go along with, who become monogamous, regardless of, you know, we always hear like, oh, you know, monogamy is not natural.
00:59:38.000This is something that, you know, gay rights activist groups were trying to say for decades in order to normalize and legitimize homosexual behavior.
00:59:45.000But this is what we have to recognize is that this narrative that they're born this way is only ever used to create sympathy for that group of people so that you're unwilling to speak out against the actions.
01:00:00.000We don't have to accept this as an inevitability.
01:00:03.000Anyone who harms a child needs to be penalized in the harshest possible legal way, and other people who are considering offending need to see that happen to them in order to deter them.
01:00:15.000I was having a conversation with Sean, the actual Justice Warrior, Sean Fitzgerald, very very bright guy. One thing he explains is that there are
01:00:22.000basically three tiers to how you get a person to comply with the law or not break it.
01:00:27.000And the first and most important one is that the person actually internalizes and believes
01:00:31.000that that rule is good. That is the most effective way to stop someone from breaking a
01:00:34.000rule. And you ideally want everyone to feel that way. But then a step below it, if a
01:00:38.000person doesn't really feel like there's anything wrong with it, is for them to know
01:00:42.000that their community, the people around them are extremely opposed to it, and that if they
01:00:46.000do it and people find out they do it or ever found out they do it, they would be loathed
01:00:50.000and detested and there'd be a great amount of shame. And then finally.
01:00:58.000This is when those first two fail-safes break.
01:01:00.000So the most important thing to do is to help everyone internalize to the strongest possible degree that this is totally unacceptable.
01:01:07.000And then beneath that, you want to ensure that those social conventions are held up and promoted to a degree such that nobody who is ever spouting this They're born that way, rhetoric.
01:01:19.000Any rhetoric that makes them sympathetic to them is not listened to, and then beneath that, if these people do offend anyway, you have to inflict the maximal, harshest possible legal penalty.
01:01:28.000So we've eliminated shame in our society.
01:01:33.000We're not supposed to be ashamed of anything anymore.
01:01:35.000We're supposed to go out into the street, parade ourselves around naked and kink-filled and whatever else, and have everybody acknowledge that as beautiful and spectacular.
01:01:44.000It's a very weird situation where we've gotten rid of shame.
01:01:47.000I've been saying for years now, like, bring back the taboo.
01:01:52.000I don't think we have entirely, though.
01:01:53.000I think there is an argument that you should be able to do whatever, but I think there are people who then go out there and put it on naked and whatever else, and they're like, and if you don't cheer and celebrate me, I will think that you're shaming me in some way and that will hurt me.
01:02:14.000This is something I want everyone in the audience, everyone here to just pay very close attention to over the next couple years because there's something I've noticed that the left does basically every time they want to normalize something and we're seeing that occur with respect to pedophilia.
01:02:26.000The argument that's always made is this behavior, which society widely rejects, is inevitable.
01:02:32.000Some minority of people are going to do it anyway, so we have to ensure that we have a more empathetic approach to ensure that it's done safely or only done in small doses, or there's some way to accommodate these people so that we don't see all of the disastrous effects that occur.
01:02:46.000You have to stop people from doing it.
01:02:47.000You can't mitigate the disastrous effects of something so disgusting through some means of employing an empathetic understanding of why the person did it, right?
01:02:55.000You just have to put your foot down and say, no, we're not accepting this.
01:02:59.000That said, that said, what the left always does and what they have done is once they
01:03:03.000get people to say, okay, it's an inevitability, there's nothing we can do about it, what of
01:03:08.000course happens is it becomes more socially accepted.
01:03:10.000And once it's more socially accepted, you get more of it.
01:03:13.000So the left-wing argument is constantly, we won't get any more of this thing if we normalize
01:04:35.000I'm not totally against researching and talking to pedophiles from prison and saying, like, how did we get to where we are, right?
01:04:42.000But I don't think that mitigates the fact that there have to be harsh punishments, right?
01:04:46.000If your house caught on fire, you would want to know the cause.
01:04:49.000If it was an electrical thing, you would want to know why so we could prevent it in the future.
01:04:53.000And I understand that there's a desire to come to a place of compassion, but like, if you were abused and your abuser then cries in jail and says, I was abused, Are you then obligated to feel empathy for them when they did something bad to you?
01:05:09.000Because some people are... Some people who did it are sad, yeah.
01:05:13.000Or some people who did that had a tough time.
01:05:16.000Hold on, there's a point I really have to make here.
01:05:20.000Which is that because I tried to say this before Hannah Clare was speaking, but I think the emphasis nowadays is put on us understanding why the criminal did this.
01:05:31.000The emphasis should be on getting the criminal to understand why what they did was disgusting and should never be tolerated.
01:05:36.000But I'm concerned with the child that was abused growing up to become an abuser, and how do we help the child?
01:05:41.000Once you become an abuser, our only concern was how do we lock you away from everybody else and get you to stop?
01:05:46.000And the thing is, we don't know how we can get people to stop doing it, so what we just have to do is lock them up away from everyone else so that they're not capable of doing it.
01:05:53.000Finding some way to neutralize the threat.
01:05:55.000I know you agree we should lock them up.
01:06:13.000A lot of times they're abused when they're little.
01:06:15.000That's true, but I think, you know, people will say that to get empathy for them, but if someone did that to you as a child, and you pass that pain along to someone else, that makes it even worse.
01:06:26.000Because what happens is, I think what happens is, it happens to you, so you're like, that was so horrible, no, no, no, I'm okay, I'm fine, whatever happened to me in my life is okay, I'm okay, and then you start to realize, like, all the things that happened to you are okay, so then you remember the abuse, and that's part of the okay thing, and then it's like, no, no, I'm okay, it's okay.
01:06:41.000But it doesn't have to be that way, and there's a, you know, I mean, I think that part...
01:06:46.000I think a lot of it has to do with the breakdown of morality as well, and this lack of understanding that there are appropriate ways to live.
01:06:56.000It should not be a relativist society, and that's a relativist perspective.
01:07:00.000Like, this thing happened to me, so I'm going to inflict this pain on someone else.
01:07:04.000We see that with hazing, right, in colleges, and you see, like, I don't know.
01:08:14.000If that pedophile is still in jail, and they're still a pedophile, I guess in that sense you haven't stopped pedophilia, but you've stopped children from being abused, and that's what's most important.
01:08:27.000Oh, I was just saying, I think it goes back to Libby's point, I think as a society we need to decide that there are some absolute hard lines that we will not cross.
01:08:34.000And for me, pedophilia is obviously one of them.
01:08:37.000And there shouldn't, you know, as a human being, obviously you want to cultivate a lifestyle that has compassion, but you can't let your compassion be so overrun that you are willing to permit other people to be put in harm's way.
01:09:05.000I know we've been talking about a lot of dark topics tonight.
01:09:07.000This is a dark topic, but it's so ridiculous that it seems like something that might have come out of an Onion article, which is part of why I wanted to share it with all of you, since this is ShimCast.
01:09:16.000And, you know, maybe we should lean into the comedy a little bit more.
01:09:19.000This has not been a very comedic episode.
01:09:52.000So when you email someone at gmail dot com, right, it's dot com, commercial.
01:09:57.000When it comes to the military, it's dot M-I-L, military.
01:10:01.000If it's to someone in Mali, it's dot M-L.
01:10:04.000So a lot of people at the Pentagon were not typing the I. And so they were sending secret information, sensitive information at the very least, to this African nation now.
01:10:17.000Now to be clear, for everyone who panics, this is still a serious problem, but Johanna Sevier, who manages Mali's domain, collected 117,000 emails since January of this year, and many more in years prior, and they contain a lot of information about the United States government and This is a risk which is very real.
01:11:15.000They probably didn't think that the people who worked at the Pentagon were so horrifyingly inept and stupid.
01:11:22.000Maybe the real problem with the deep state isn't that they have too much power.
01:11:26.000Maybe it's that they are stupid and should not have any jobs at all.
01:11:29.000Yeah, I have so much power for the I mean normal amount of intelligence of a human being interesting because the the
01:11:35.000spokesman who came Out to address this was like look we are actually aware
01:11:38.000This has been happening and the thing is we have no way to fix it because basically they can't change the dot MIL
01:11:44.000So they just need to like send out a Pentagon wide email being like, please please please be very careful because
01:11:51.000there's no He was saying there's no there's no technical roadblock
01:11:55.000here. I don't know if that's actually true I'm not an information technologist by any means but it is
01:12:00.000interesting that ultimately our National security comes down to bureaucratic error
01:12:06.000Well, don't so many things come down to bureaucratic error?
01:12:09.000If you look at, you know, the Biden administration, they're sending out these executive orders to do all kinds of things, get the agencies to do all of this kind of stuff.
01:12:18.000It's bureaucrats trying to figure out the best way to implement these things like Look at HHS, right?
01:12:24.000They're like, oh, okay, we're going to implement trans policy by forcing insurance companies to cover all of these different kinds of surgeries.
01:12:31.000The agriculture department is like, we're going to stop paying for free lunches for school kids if schools don't allow boys to use girls' bathrooms.
01:12:40.000So it's a massive amount of ineptitude and failure from these people who all went to Nice state schools and now have jobs that they don't want to lose and it turns out that they're idiots and fools!
01:12:52.000That's the issue that I see with so many conspiracy theories as well.
01:12:56.000It would require, like a lot of these conspiracy theories would require intelligent people to be implementing these things and we are run by fools!
01:13:11.000Fire everyone at the federal government.
01:13:13.000Just get them out of office, save us a bunch of money, and start over.
01:13:18.000At the very least, I'll say I'm sympathetic to that position.
01:13:20.000One thing I'll mention, you brought up these schools that are having funds withheld from them for students to get lunches.
01:13:28.000That was the Department of Agriculture, good old Tom Vilsack, who also decided that grants for farmers from the federal government should be based on race first.
01:13:37.000And I remember when I covered that story, and everyone was like, no, nobody really cares about this, and I'm like, we're covering this story, dammit, we are covering this story.
01:13:45.000Well, there's this weird thing where, like, every couple decades, left-wingers become more comfortable outwardly saying that we need to give farming subsidies and farms to people, not based on whether they know how to farm, but whether they're politically favored.
01:13:56.000Like they never heard of Mao, you know what I mean?
01:13:58.000You guys have tried the whole let's base who gets to be a farmer and who's advantage as a farmer on if we like you
01:14:05.000politically and not like whether you can farm and treating all people
01:14:08.000who can farm well equally instead of having like racial or political preferences.
01:14:12.000Now, I also want to mention too, part of the irony here, which is the school lunches thing is probably the left's
01:14:30.000And it doesn't happen all that often, but whenever it does, it gets a tremendous amount of press from the left smearing the right.
01:14:34.000Because of course, it's awful and it's terrible optics, but they'll say, look, these heartless conservatives don't want kids to get school lunches.
01:14:40.000But then, When bureaucratic incompetence results in kids not getting
01:14:45.000school lunches, we can't lay that at the feet of the people who are
01:14:48.000comfortable with completely incompetent bureaucracies. It makes me think of like someone who takes
01:14:55.000hostages being like, can you believe that the police department wants these hostages
01:14:59.000to suffer because they won't give me a plane?
01:16:28.000I don't know what you'd call that, but you could block that.
01:16:30.000Maybe they didn't even know the problem was happening though, so they didn't block it.
01:16:33.000I mean, of course, it sounds like he had been saying things, but yeah, maybe.
01:16:38.000I mean, maybe this is one of those things that people just never flagged or considered to be important enough to run up to the top, but it seems like a pretty massive vulnerability that there's a country that's triggering all this shit.
01:16:48.000I'm wondering how this is- And then we have one Dutch guy who just wants to get off at five and go home.
01:17:01.000I think it's also like there's probably like I want to say there's like one person who is like miss save some email and it's just like not aware they are the problem and it's continuously sending it out to the wrong thing.
01:17:13.000I mean I find this whole situation so ridiculous and at the same time like hysterically funny.
01:17:19.000I agree with you it's like something out of the office.
01:17:21.000Is it intent like is it like I don't know, I don't want to say God, it's a little too vague, but like, is there like a force that's mind-controlling these people to send it to the Russian ally?
01:17:58.000I don't think that's really happening, but it's interesting when huge masses of people make the same mistake for a long period of time.
01:18:04.000It's also interesting how much more invested people are in being careful when they have a stake in something.
01:18:09.000So for example, as someone who runs a business, as someone who's responsible for You know, gaining their own income through the success of the operation that they've created and are building.
01:18:17.000Like, I'm pretty careful when I send an email to a new domain.
01:18:20.000I want to make sure I got it exactly right, especially if I'm sending information that I think could be, you know, sensitive, like a pitch guide or like an FLA file or something that I would want people outside of our organization to have.
01:18:30.000But these people, I think a lot of them, they just don't feel like they have that much of a stake, so they're not paying as close of attention to what they're doing.
01:18:36.000And you should feel like you have a massive stake because you're working for the Pentagon.
01:18:39.000I think that's true with a lot of people who have jobs these days.
01:19:57.000I want people to feel satisfied like and maybe that I feel bad because I always sort of joke with my friends who work for corporate America.
01:20:05.000It's like, oh, you're just your corporate gals.
01:20:07.000You have some jargon and you do some meetings.
01:20:11.000And of course there are reasons to work for large companies.
01:20:14.000I don't want to be completely Against it, but it is there is something like I'm saying like when I was talking to black dog coffee roasters I just really love hearing how passionate about what they what they do and I don't know I I I wish more people got to work in environments like that because when you work for sort of bigger Souls corporations when you feel detached from your work it eats away at who you are you feel dissatisfied Yeah, I would agree.
01:20:37.000Also you're doing a disservice to the company that you're working for.
01:20:47.000Well, I think a lot of people not only don't feel any kind of ownership over the work they're doing, but apparently they don't feel a whole lot of ownership over the decisions that they've made.
01:20:54.000This is something we see frequently with the student debt crisis, the student loan issues, and the fact that Democrats are trying to push to forgive all student loan debt if they can.
01:21:04.000Not the Democratic Party officially, but many people in the party want all student loan debt to be forgiven.
01:21:10.000Obviously, the Supreme Court wasn't having it, but we see here in some data that was published by Axios here that young Americans are likely to blame the Supreme Court and Republicans for a lack of debt forgiveness.
01:21:25.000Maybe if you took out loans, the person you should blame for the fact that you are in debt is not the Supreme Court, And not the Republican Party, but yourself.
01:21:32.000That said, I'm sympathetic to some of the arguments that advocates for student loan debt forgiveness make, just in the sense that if someone's already paid off more than they actually owed, but because they've been paying it off for so long and have such a high interest rate, that they're still in the hole, I do think there's something about that which is upsetting, especially considering these loans are federally guaranteed, so there isn't the same level of risk for the lenders who are collecting this massive interest rate.
01:21:58.000That said, it's hard to be sympathetic when people who statistically are making significantly more than people without college degrees are demanding that those people pay their debts off for them, and people who also are earning at the same level as people who did pay off their degrees but had to take less money in the moment in order to pay that off and they want them to have their wages redistributed
01:22:19.000or their salary redistributed to pay that debt off. So just to give you guys an idea of the
01:22:23.000numbers here, if you graduate with a doctorate degree, your median earnings are $97,000 per
01:22:29.000year. Your unemployment rate is about 1%. If you have a master's degree, your median salary is
01:22:34.000like 77,000, about 78,000, and your unemployment rate's about 2%. When you get down to somebody
01:22:39.000with a high school diploma, your median Salary is $38,000 a year and you have an unemployment rate
01:22:44.000of 3.6% So people who have doctorates, people who have degrees, they make significantly more than people who don't have these degrees.
01:22:50.000They also are significantly less likely to be unemployed.
01:22:54.000So the idea that you could spend four to six years in an academic institution, even longer than that, depending on the track you were on, and accumulate debt throughout that time period, and then step out into the workforce after having all, you know, Many, if not all, in some circumstances of your living expenses taken care of through that four to six years, and then enter into the workforce not having had a job before, but being able to make more money than people who had a job through that four to six year period, four to eight year period, depending on your track, whatever, however long you took, is totally insane and totally selfish in my opinion.
01:23:24.000Part of it, I think, is that people expect that if they study something, they're going to be able
01:23:29.000to get a job in that field, and that getting a job in that field should be able to pay off their
01:23:34.000student loans. And I think that that's short-sighted as well. I mean, if you go to college and you
01:23:38.000study gender, and then you get a degree in philosophy or whatever, why would you think
01:23:44.000that you're immediately going to be able to get a professorship and pay off your degree with that?
01:23:49.000The idea is that you go to school. Sure, you can study what you want, but you have to then get a
01:23:54.000job that's going to pay your bills with the salary that you make. So I think that the biggest problem
01:24:03.000is the unrealistic expectations of the students who take out these loans.
01:24:07.000I feel like the loan system, and I am not an economics person, but
01:24:11.000It seems to me like it's just completely broken.
01:24:13.000I know there is an argument for like you took out the loan so you know the consequences.
01:24:18.000It does seem crazy to me that the federal government gets to say you can't default on this loan and also we will ultimately decide if we'll forgive it or not.
01:24:29.000If you could default on student loans would you Issue them, right?
01:24:33.000Like, a bank would take into account if you're getting a loan for a house, they take into account the kind of money you make, your financial history, and then they make a decision.
01:24:40.000Does the federal government take into account what we need in terms of jobs?
01:24:44.000So like, if you're a nursing student, do you get a better interest rate if you take out a student loan?
01:24:49.000Like, are we giving loans to people where there is also jobs waiting for them at the end?
01:24:53.000That system seems like it makes more sense than we currently have, which is like, You're 18 and can take out massive amounts of debt to study whatever you think may or may not, based on nothing, make money and be able to pay off this loan.
01:25:05.000There doesn't seem to be the same system that we have for every other type of loan out there.
01:25:10.000I think that if financial institutions weren't having these loans subsidized, they would be more careful about who they were going to give loans out to.
01:25:16.000I think other things might be taken into consideration if the whole system wasn't rigged by these federally subsidized student loans.
01:25:22.000You might even have financial institutions considering not only the major person has and the likelihood of getting a job and what they might earn at that job if they graduate, but also the likelihood of them graduating.
01:25:33.000What kind of student were they in high school?
01:25:35.000And ultimately, I think the loans would be significantly less expensive overall.
01:25:39.000The National Bureau of Economic Research published a paper several years ago where they essentially confirmed that Universities and colleges respond to the widened access and easily available money by doing, guess what?
01:26:05.000And so I know many people who've made the arguments that there are many colleges that they're basically hedge funds with a kind of educational front built atop.
01:26:13.000They take this money, they invest it, they end up growing their wealth, kids are paying their to get an education.
01:26:19.000They don't necessarily improve the quality of that education as students move through and the tuition goes up and they're laughing all the way to the bank.
01:26:25.000And people end up in this kind of I don't want to call it debt slavery because that seems a bit hyperbolic, but they end up owing significant portions of their income for the foreseeable future.
01:26:37.000And again, the one reason I am not sympathetic to the people who push for student loan forgiveness, even though I am sympathetic to people with student loans, is because I don't think that people who made the decision not to go to college and who are making less than you should have to bite the bullet.
01:26:51.000Or also, I mean, I'm sure we all know people who took out, you know, hundreds of thousands
01:26:55.000of dollars in student loans, and we also know people who made the decision to go to colleges
01:27:00.000that were less expensive so that they didn't have to be burdened with that loan debt or
01:27:03.000made other decisions about how they were going to be educated.
01:27:08.000And I think that's really valid as well.
01:27:10.000I know one of my cousins, very intelligent, wanted to go to a top school, decided to go to a state school, had enough money to pay for that, did that, and is now not saddled with student loan debt, has a good job, has a mortgage, has a couple of kids, doesn't have to pay for school still.
01:27:26.000I think part of it is the false promise that, you know, college is this door to some great, uh, you know, ladder to the elite, or just more, uh, financial comfort or stability, when that's not the case anymore.
01:27:37.000I think you can falsely sell to people if you go to the most elite university you can go to.
01:27:41.000Even if it puts you in hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of debt, you are guaranteed success in the future.
01:27:46.000And that's just not the case, even though... Right, that's not true either, yeah.
01:28:05.000You would then have to budget yourself accordingly.
01:28:07.000You'd have to take a job that you can pay it off.
01:28:09.000You'd have to choose a lifestyle that accommodates this debt.
01:28:12.000And if you don't want to have to do that, you make choices differently.
01:28:15.000And ultimately, you're able to potentially generate wealth more quickly because you don't have to immediately overcome this obstacle you've given yourself, which is massive student loan debt.
01:28:24.000Yeah, well, there's a couple different ways of looking at this, but here's one way I look at it.
01:28:28.000Firstly, if you got a degree that was very useful and you're earning a lot of money and you're the kind of person whose student loan debt we would want to pay off because you're massively contributing, you're making enough money to pay off your student loan debts, right?
01:28:39.000If you're somebody who majored in something useless and so you're not making any money, well, why would we subsidize useless degrees?
01:28:45.000You think that if you forgive student loan debt... Well, that's stupid, too.
01:28:47.000You think if we forgive people student loan debt, that's not going to have an effect on the market?
01:28:51.000That's not going to have an effect on the number of people taking out student loans?
01:28:53.000That's not going to have an effect on tuition costs?
01:31:01.000On the other hand, nursing is a super flexible career.
01:31:04.000If you're at all interested in the sciences, you could make any kind of career with that, even if initially you go into one specific field.
01:31:10.000What are we supposed to do with all these kids who just want to be social media influencers and they don't even want to do real jobs?
01:31:15.000Travel nurses have a huge Instagram love following.
01:31:24.000One of the, of course, massive flaws with it, not just as a concept, but particularly in this culture, is we don't live in a society where doing things that are necessarily the most useful for the group are the most highly valued.
01:31:35.000So you're going to have a bunch of people trying to pursue lifestyles and career choices with their UBI that actually don't really help other people.
01:31:41.000Yeah, talking about people that are talking about things.
01:31:53.000And if you're good at it, it's extremely contributing to society.
01:31:56.000But like, not everybody, we don't need everybody to be a storyteller.
01:32:00.000You only need a small percentage of the world to be fantastic storyteller.
01:32:03.000I mean, you really don't need, you know, you need people to do things.
01:32:06.000And then the storytellers will tell the story of what you did.
01:32:09.000Well, I don't think the fact that the careers that we're in aren't necessarily as high demand as other things out there.
01:32:14.000And this actually goes back to trades, honestly.
01:32:17.000There are a lot of trades that need people to pursue them because we're running short.
01:32:20.000The fact that my particular skill set doesn't mean that I'm in a high demand career doesn't bother me.
01:32:26.000I just think that if you're 18 and being given information, hey, If you don't want to have debt or if you're going to take on debt, this is a career field you might want to consider because it will allow you to more easily pay it off.
01:32:37.000Maybe don't study interpretive dance or take a couple classes on the side.
01:32:41.000My degree is in, what is my degree in?
01:34:11.000I actually didn't, I said I begged him, I begged him, I said, please, I said I can't do this, please Tim, and he said you have to, he said I need this from you before I go off to the farms.
01:34:36.000What do you all have to say about that?
01:34:38.000I thought that was amazing when she said that we should reduce the population for climate change, and I'm pretty sure she means it.
01:34:42.000And I believe that that's true because she is pro-abortion, she is pro-sterilizing kids through sex changes, and she's pro-war.
01:34:50.000So she's anti-life, She's pro-destruction, reducing population, and she thinks we should do it for climate change.
01:34:57.000Yeah, I mean, by definition, right, if you're... This is so interesting because it depends on how you frame things.
01:35:02.000When someone says, there are too many people and we need to, like, you know, promote methods for poverty relief in the third world, such as contraceptive methods.
01:35:10.000It's like, that's literally calling for, like, population control.
01:35:13.000You know what's really good for poverty relief?
01:37:40.000When I was in eighth grade, so I went through confirmation, and at my church they showed the entire confirmation class a video of an abortion on a big screen.
01:37:50.000Just some fun festive stuff for a couple of days.
01:37:52.000I mean, it's good that they showed you the people.
01:37:55.000You know, I have not been able to be pro-abortion ever since.
01:37:58.000I mean, I really think there is something to giving the information.
01:38:28.000You look at war propaganda from back in the day and it was like, we're going to go over there and beat those Germans and we're not coming back until it's over over there.
01:38:35.000They weren't showing you the gritty realities of what happened.
01:38:37.000Young men, this is the thing, young men signed up to fight in the First World War in droves because they were afraid that the war would end before they had the opportunity to be deployed.
01:38:46.000They thought it was going to be a fun adventure.
01:38:48.000A lot of people signed up to be in the U.S.
01:38:57.000It's interesting because after that point, you're right, we did have films that I think, of course, couldn't capture the reality of war, but didn't sugarcoat it the way that a lot of propaganda pieces from the past did.
01:39:07.000But what they still did is they gave young men, and I think Americans in general, a sense of pride and honor in what our military had done in the past.
01:39:14.000So even though you saw the struggle, it was something that you wanted to be able to own.
01:39:17.000It was a struggle that you kind of wanted to be yours, and I think that's why so many young men were willing to enlist, even after seeing the horrific reality or at least the pale image of the horrific reality
01:42:40.000It's kind of funny because does this person like send the article up being like, I just wrote this piece, like, hope you guys check it out.
01:44:09.000Um, we have from Captain Titus, uh, on the Pentagon issue, you can 100% block addresses to a firewall, so all internal emails can go to that particular extension.
01:44:19.000Okay, so is everyone who watches TimCast smarter than everyone at the Pentagon?
01:44:28.000I just pulled the quote from the Pentagon.
01:44:30.000It says, while it's not impossible to implement technical controls preventing the use of personal email accounts for government business, the department continues to provide direction and training to DOD personnel.
01:44:39.000The office of the DOD CIO oversees this matter.
01:44:45.000So they're saying like, we have an issue.
01:44:47.000We can't totally figure out how to stop it.
01:44:50.000We think that there could be a technical solution, but we're still trying to train people on what not to do.
01:44:55.000But did they insinuate they're letting people use their private or personal emails to work at the Pentagon?
01:45:49.000Thank you for using the proper name, and I think that my proper name should be used, because here's the deal.
01:45:53.000This Spoonanon label that has been thrown at me by those in the establishment who are threatened by the fact that I'm speaking truth And only know how to dismiss things by calling them conspiracy theories is really a worse look for them than it is for me.
01:46:06.000You can't delegitimize every single counterfactual that I put out there against Tim's narrative which upholds my innocence by calling me spooning on forever.
01:46:30.000I believe that Tim had no spoons, and then you brought them back.
01:46:35.000Or you brought them in, I should say, from elsewhere.
01:46:39.000And that's all the data we have at this point.
01:46:41.000I'm not commenting on the particulars of the situation at this point other than to say that I am innocent.
01:46:47.000We have from, excuse me, I'm gonna try to pronounce this, uh, A-E-M-T, I don't know if they want me to say, like, Amt, or, you know, A-E-M-T 2020, you're right!
01:48:35.000I actually asked him about that same question that the Berlatsky Prostasia guy was talking about, like the difference between human trafficking and all of that stuff.
01:48:45.000And I was asking him about how the left is trying to say that Stranger Danger is not a big deal and that all of this happens at home.
01:48:54.000And he was like, yeah, I mean, of course, exploitation can come from anywhere.
01:48:58.000This is what I was working on, you know?
01:49:01.000But he's, of course, aware of all that stuff.
01:49:04.000Yeah, he's... I mean, one thing that the... One thing they mentioned while they were here was just what a bold choice it was to release the film on the 4th of July because all the biggest films in the country tend to be released around that date.
01:50:49.000I think part of it is because conservatives have their own set of vices that they don't want anyone to criticize, so they'll say something like, Homosexuality is bad, or transgenderism is bad, but they like totally reject the telos of sex themselves because they won't stand out and speak up against contraceptives.
01:51:03.000And so, they have their own skeletons in their closet, and that makes them feel like, who am I to judge?
01:51:08.000Who am I to say that anything is wrong in this arena?
01:51:10.000Because I'm also doing something sexually immoral.
01:51:15.000One thing the left has been brilliant at, and I mentioned this earlier, Firstly, they try to claim any negative behavior is totally impossible to avoid.
01:51:25.000Some people are always going to do it.
01:51:27.000And the other thing they do is they turn everything into a race analog.
01:51:32.000So whenever someone's doing something that we broadly accept is not good, they try to claim that the people doing said thing were born with a proclivity for that thing, so that any criticism of them is actually a criticism of their immutable characteristics, which they had at birth, which is essentially something that they do so that they can find a way to recapture the civil rights era nostalgia and play with the framing of, these are just people who were born this way and you hate them for characteristics they can't control.
01:52:00.000It's a big part of why I criticize behavior and not the person themselves, which is why I criticize pedophilia and not the pedophile.
01:52:05.000I mean, I will criticize the pedophile, but I focus on the behavior because if you go at the person, they're just going to tell you, hey, don't blame me for who I am.
01:52:14.000Well, but I think focusing on the behavior is why we should say that behavior is awful, we gotta lock them up, rather than, like, we have to understand this person and, like, why they're doing this.
01:53:13.000And that said, of course, if you've committed a heinous crime, you still have to turn yourself in, you still have to do your time, you still have to stay away from children, these people should still be locked up forever, even if they can be forgiven by God, right?
01:53:24.000But my greater point with this is, when someone does something repeatedly, they're engaging in it, it's habitual, we still don't feel comfortable saying that this is something that it's appropriate for society to label this person as.
01:53:34.000Like, I don't know, I think if you're stealing something, I think if you're stealing things all the time, it's okay to call you a thief.
01:53:39.000Like, I think it is okay to let people know that they're actually come to define it. There's also a thing too though where
01:53:45.000just because you do bad things doesn't mean you can't point out that other people
01:53:48.000do bad things. That's also very true. You know, I mean, that is a, you know,
01:53:51.000Jesus does talk about this, what is it, this, the plank in your own eye before you remove it. The
01:53:56.000wood beam, yeah, in your own eye. The splinter from the others. But I do think that we can say like, and the way
01:54:01.000that you can say that, the way that you can say you're doing a bad thing is you can say these are the appropriate
01:54:07.000values, This is the appropriate way to behave.
01:54:09.000We all make mistakes still behave this way, even though we're all going to screw up, you know, so it's not about like pointing fingers, but it is about establishing and maintaining a morality in society and we used to have that.
01:54:22.000Yeah, and we have completely dispensed with a collective understanding of right and wrong.
01:54:28.000It's like all the global moralities have meshed into this weird thing.
01:54:30.000Do you think part of it is that phrase, live and let live?
01:54:32.000I think that has a conservative thing, too, because the idea is you're not going to just go around criticizing everyone.
01:54:38.000Everyone's just going to do their own thing.
01:54:41.000I understand the fear of, like, forcing your way of life out of someone because you want to maintain freedom, but I do think that without a collective understanding of values, it's impossible to maintain a society.
01:54:50.000We also have, like, a civil religion where we would all behave in the appropriate way and we wouldn't cross those lines.
01:54:56.000You wouldn't go over to your neighbor's house and take their child.
01:55:54.000I guess there's, like, the, uh, morality is essentially subjective to the culture of which it's built, but, or, or Brent, but you've got the, the Ten Commandments.
01:56:02.000Like, there's some moralities, like, don't kill people, because if you did that, everyone would be gone.
01:56:05.000You'd lose everybody, so you can't, and that's not even a moral thing, it's just, like, a structurally functional thing.
01:56:34.000What a violation to find out someone that you, like, are not, like, you don't know this girl in your dorm has been using your toothbrush.
01:56:40.000And I find this to be, like, such a good example of why it's important to have common values and understanding of what's appropriate and what's not.
01:56:50.000I would suspect there are probably other boundaries that have not been properly placed in that family if they're all using the same toothbrush.
01:56:54.000That's just my speculation that I think maybe these are people who don't have a healthy sense.
01:56:58.000I was thinking the underwear thing, too.
01:58:18.000It's a collective toothbrush right there.
01:58:19.000Yeah, supporting pedophiles and supporting pedophilia are different.
01:58:23.000I understand that, you know, I can understand how you can see that there is a difference there.
01:58:30.000And, you know, basically I am now so, what is it, probably conditioned by online fact checkers that I try and be as precise as possible.
01:58:41.000But I do think that if you're supporting pedophiles, you're supporting their actions and you're supporting pedophilia.
01:58:45.000Well, because the left absolutely detests the logic that you love the sinner and hate the sin.
01:58:53.000So whenever they start saying, oh, we like these people who have this proclivity, given the left-wing framework, that always means you affirm their actions, right?
01:59:03.000The left-wing narrative is that it is not possible to truly love somebody and disagree with their actions or disagree with the things they're inclined to do.
01:59:11.000So when they say, oh no no no, we just want to help pedophiles, we just like pedophiles, not pedophilia, wrong, because every single time you say you like a group, what you're saying is we like their behavior and how dare you criticize it.
01:59:22.000Unless it's a conservative in your family, in which case you're supposed to shun them at Thanksgiving and throw your wine in their face.
01:59:27.000But that's my point, there's no distinction on the left.
02:00:07.000If I were to say, like, I support murderers, I don't- that wouldn't mean that I- You don't say that!
02:00:11.000Yeah, I wouldn't say it personally, but if I was trying to truly support someone that had murdered, it would be to be an emotional support structure for them to find love so that they never murder again.
02:02:10.000So, you guys, a few weeks ago, we were very afraid for Bucko because there was this, we didn't know at the time, we didn't put it together, but there was this giant cloud of, like, burning, uh, uh, benzene and, like, smoke coming from Canadian wildfires, and God knows, maybe East Palestine, but it was, he looked like he was gonna die.
02:02:28.000And so we freaked out, we took him to the vet, and the next day he was fine.
02:02:32.000Like, the gas cloud passed and he livened back up.
02:02:35.000So now, you know, we took him to the pharma, they're like, hey, well, we see he's got some issues, let's put him on all these, and we're like, I'm struggling with, do we use pharma?