The 500th episode of the Freedom Tunes Podcast, hosted by John Rocha ( ) and Michael Malice ( ), features a special guest, author Michael Ballas ( ), who joins the show to talk about all things culture war and wokeness.
00:00:01.000Ron DeSantis is threatening to pull Disney's special governing status or whatever that means apparently since I think the 60s they've been able to govern their own property as if it's their own government and because they've been supporting wokeness and because they've been supporting I'll just call it child grooming.
00:00:19.000DeSantis has basically said, I don't see why we shouldn't pull this, why they should have the status, and several Republicans in the state are talking about pulling it, because, well, it seems like if there are at least some politicians who are doing anything in the culture war, it's just the people in Florida.
00:00:34.000It's probably fair to say there are several other states that are doing awesome stuff.
00:00:37.000I'm hearing, what is it, Georgia's doing constitutional carry?
00:00:40.000Texas just did it, a bunch of other states are doing it, Florida might be doing it, these are really, really cool
00:01:03.000We're gonna be chillin Jen Psaki is quitting apparently and I don't think anybody really cares all that much I just shrugged when I heard and I'm like sure whatever and Joining us today on this lovely Friday to talk about all of it is Michael Malice Aloha Am I supposed to say something?
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00:05:03.000It was like a report for like a non-profit where she smeared- Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:05:06.000It was a crazy conspiracy theory thing where she had a bunch of different YouTube channels that have nothing to do with each other connected with red lines.
00:05:16.000Like, Chris Raygun is like a culture commentary guy who plays video games, and Richard Spencer is Richard Spencer, and like, there's a line connecting them.
00:05:28.000There was someone named Mark Fabiani who worked for the Democratic Party for Hillary in some capacity, and he did this in the 90s.
00:05:34.000He created this big flow chart of everyone pointing to, you know, Cato Institute, and this one's in bed.
00:05:39.000So that's why when Hillary Clinton went on, I believe it was Good Morning America, and said, with this huge blowback, there's this vast right-wing conspiracy against my husband, and it's out in the open, she wasn't just talking out her ass, she was referencing this document that they had.
00:05:52.000So this has been going on for a long time.
00:05:53.000Well, here's the best part, and why bring it up.
00:05:55.000is that I complained very heavily about it because it put me right in the middle and like the Young Turks did a segment on it where it's like Tim Pool is the center they were talking about me but it like makes me the center of this vast you know alt-right conspiracy or something and I was just like it's fabricated I had friends who were working in these media companies who even rejected the story outright because I reached out to them like hey guys look at this and I pointed it out they're like whoa like people who worked at the Atlantic and Politico and so she does a follow-up So then she's like- Specifically on me!
00:07:26.000But is it not interesting that the person who actually sat down and consumed all of your content ended up walking away going Okay, he's not some like far-right Nazi.
00:07:33.000It turns out that's just a thing we say but I like how like after six months She's like I'm gonna find that Nazi is like nine months.
00:07:42.000It's gotta be the back In the member content.
00:07:45.000I'm imagining like she finally finished watching all the videos and her eyes are like just like deeply sunk and like black and her like skin is pale and she weighs like a hundred pounds like I've watched it all.
00:07:55.000No, but I can I'm imagining because when I was writing my book on North Korea and I was just telling all my friends about all these cool Kim Jong-il stories I heard and after a while they're like, okay, I don't care about North Korea.
00:08:04.000So she's like talking to her friends or her boyfriend or whatever like I don't care about this beanie guy.
00:08:54.000So basically, Disney has this special thing going back to 1967, a state law that established the Reedy Creek Improvement District, giving Disney the power to establish its own government in Central Florida.
00:09:05.000He basically said, you know what, why should we have companies that have this special privilege, right?
00:09:09.000Which is a smackdown because DeSantis said Disney went too far.
00:09:14.000I think Disney did go too far because after the backlash, well let me slow down, Disney refused to call out the parental rights and education bill, which the left calls don't say gay, which makes no sense because that doesn't even make sense.
00:10:40.000Yeah, I think, well, I'm a little bit torn because as an anarchist, I like the idea of a company being able to have its own government within its own jurisdiction.
00:10:48.000But I am ecstatic That if either of the political parties, and hopefully both, alienate from corporate America, which has historically been, I think to a large extent, you have these kind of chamber of commerce, Mitt Romney Republicans, have been a thing in the Republican Party, especially after, like, Republicanism was defeated by FDR.
00:11:06.000You kind of had these, you know, weak Republicans who were kind of like, you know, suburban shop owner, middle of the road kind of types.
00:11:13.000And they kind of made apologies for corporations just doing really unconscionable things.
00:11:17.000So the fact that Republicans at all are coming to understand, which Democrats, many Democrats, for a long time understood, that corporations are not your friend.
00:11:27.000That if a corporation were a human being, that person would be a sociopath.
00:11:30.000And the more distance there is between politics and corporate America, the healthier it is for everyone involved, including corporate America.
00:11:37.000I think corporations could also be likened to the Borg.
00:12:39.000And so when people were rioting down in Anaheim over, I think it was a BLM thing or something like that, And, like, the police came out in force more than I'd seen in most places.
00:12:51.000And it's because, well, now you're coming after a major corporation and their corporate profits.
00:12:55.000So once the rioters and, you know, protesters started getting close to this bridge that brought them close to Disneyland or whatever, the cops just went off.
00:13:54.000So a lot of these corporations don't have the spines.
00:13:56.000They look like any person will take as much space as you give them.
00:13:59.000But as soon as you put your foot down, they're more than happy to, you know, kind of roll over like a dog and you put on a really loud noise and then roll.
00:14:06.000I want to make a point for Mr. Mouse here.
00:14:08.000You have this famous quote about police.
00:14:19.000Oh, there is no law so obscene that the police would not be willing to enforce it up to and including the mass execution of innocent children?
00:14:29.000I think it's fair to say that there is no path to profit so obscene that a corporation would not pursue it up to and including supporting the pedophilia and grooming of your children.
00:14:41.000Well, I mean, we see it in like, like, like, like mining and, you know, in very poor countries and like, was it Tropic, was it Dole?
00:14:49.000Chiquita, yeah, Chiquita Banana with the Banana Republic.
00:14:52.000Yeah, I think, yeah, that's where the term comes from, I believe.
00:14:53.000So, you know, again, I think one of the things that corporate media does in dividing people to right and left, Democrat and Republican, is that if conservatives or Republicans hear a leftist argument, they dismiss it out of hand.
00:15:06.000but I think it would behoove them to listen a little bit more to some of the things that the
00:15:10.000wrong people are saying because oftentimes there's a kernel truth to them and one of them is that
00:15:14.000corporate behavior especially internationally is often completely unconscionable. Well I think
00:15:19.000I saw this with the rise of Trump when I was in Florida or at his rallies.
00:15:25.000Regular people told me they weren't Republicans.
00:15:36.000So, you know, I'm just here because Trump's saying things that I like.
00:15:39.000And I think that's what the Republicans didn't like, this insurgency of regular people.
00:15:44.000So Trump brought this populist wave in, and now it's no surprise there's popular support
00:15:47.000among the conservatives and the right to go after woke corporations, because regular people
00:15:51.000don't like their kids being screwed with.
00:15:53.000Whereas previously the establishment Republicans were very much like, hey man, the businesses,
00:15:58.000you know, are hooking us up, don't get in the way.
00:16:00.000Similarly with Democrats, but you know.
00:16:02.000When you think of someone from Kentucky, you think of the stereotypes, think of the bad stereotypes, think of the good stereotypes, whatever you think.
00:16:08.000I don't care if you're a corporation or a government, if you suck, you suck.
00:16:11.000Well look at it this way, just to add to your point, to agree with your point.
00:16:14.000When you think of someone from Kentucky, you think of the stereotypes, think of the bad
00:16:18.000stereotypes, think of the good stereotypes, whatever you think.
00:16:20.000You're not thinking of Mitch McConnell.
00:16:22.000It's impossible to think of Kentuckians and then think that Mitch McConnell is the guy
00:16:26.000in Washington who represents what Kentucky means.
00:17:08.000There was arguments, including in America in the early 20th century, that regarded in some cases Irish people as part of the black population.
00:17:16.000You want to hear something interesting?
00:17:31.000Like we're not gonna pretend that was not where the universal truth you're trying you're trying to see you see here's the thing No, not yet Maybe after the show it was in the in the in the turn of the century when poor Irish immigrants were struggling or homeless They would pretend to be drunk so that they would get taken to police stations where they would get a food to eat a place to sleep Yeah, and British people actually have a substantially higher rate of drinking problems than Irish people Well, no, British people have more of a problem with it, but they don't do it as much.
00:18:01.000Thaddeus Russell, in his book Writing a History of the United States, talks about this also, because you had all these super WASP-y factory owners, you had all the Irish people came over, they did their hard work, then they went home and they went drunk, and these WASPs who had the Protestant work ethic Where you thought working hard was inherently moral and relaxing was somehow inherently sinful and something to watch out for.
00:18:37.000You're saying the labor movement wasn't a bunch of, like, proud leftists raising their fists, it was a bunch of drunken Irishmen doing this?
00:18:44.000I'm not talking about even the labor movement, I'm saying this preceded the labor movement.
00:19:01.000I studied Guinness, the history of Guinness.
00:19:03.000Basically, the dock workers would make the beer, or whoever it was would make the beer, and then they'd give all the good beer away, but the Irish, they didn't have any money, so they'd scrape the bottom of the barrels to drink, make the beer out of that goop, and that turned into Guinness, which is my favorite beer personally.
00:20:21.000They're beat up at school because you're a kid of the enemy of the people and people who your family was friends with couldn't take you in because why are you taking in this daughter whose dad was a spy?
00:20:31.000And now you had a rash of all these kids killing themselves and they're like, what are we gonna do about these kids killing themselves?
00:20:36.000So this is the kind of like logic that happened in the Soviet Union and these atrocities that the fact that I'm like the only one talking about this is really disturbing to me.
00:20:47.000And when you have the New York Times saying, this isn't happening, this is all anti-Russia propaganda.
00:20:56.000I forget the guy's name, so forgive me, but he talks about why the left is freaking out over the parental rights and education bill so much.
00:21:03.000Now, there's a meme where someone says, it's not rocket science, guys.
00:21:06.000They're just evil and they want to do Aaron, Aaron McIntyre.
00:21:10.000And there's a great thread about this that James Lindsay had retweeted.
00:21:12.000I forgive forgive me to the podcast host who posted because I forget his name.
00:21:16.000I don't know if you guys want to try and look it up.
00:21:18.000But what he was saying is, This what's happening, and I think he's saying it's intentional, is revolutionaries need to sever the relationship between child and parent.
00:21:28.000And so what they do is they first, in secret, will start explaining to the children why they're evil and bad and why they should feel guilt and shame.
00:21:36.000Once they've sufficiently made these kids hate their own identity and their parents' identity, they offer up alternative identities.
00:21:43.000You can now be one of these oppressed minorities.
00:21:49.000Then when the parents finally find out and are shocked by what's happening, the kids are already so deeply entrenched in the ideology, That the teachers can then say, see, we told you they'd come at you.
00:22:01.000And at a certain age you want to be against your parents, because as a teenager you want to be your own identity, so it's very useful to leverage that kind of natural social age group.
00:22:11.000I don't know if I could go so far as to say there's an intentional cabal of people doing this, but I can say that whether it's a conspiracy or just it's happening, it is happening this way.
00:22:22.000And the way this gentleman describes it is, it's because there's a lot of teachers who are following a curriculum that seems to be empathetic to children who are experiencing some issues.
00:22:33.000But I think the important point, why is the left so hell-bent on lying about what this bill is, calling it Don't Say Gay?
00:22:39.000Well, the bill also prevents teachers from talking about heterosexual marriage and traditional relationships.
00:22:44.000Why do they need to frame it this way?
00:22:46.000The one thing they're truly threatened by.
00:22:48.000The bill does not prevent teachers from talking to children about being gay.
00:22:52.000It prevents them from doing it in secret.
00:22:55.000They can't tell the kids, don't talk to your parents.
00:22:58.000Many of these teachers are saying they're going to do it anyway.
00:23:00.000Alright, if you're an adult, and you want to have sexual conversations with 5 to 9 year olds, and you say don't tell your parents, I'm going to go ahead and assume you're grooming these kids.
00:23:12.000That's the most reasonable possible assumption.
00:23:14.000And you mentioned that they want to sever children from their parents, and it's very true.
00:23:19.000It's debatable whether there's a concerted effort, but you see this in media all the time.
00:23:23.000The family unit is consistently attacked, and basically every television program The father is always a complete moron who can't do anything right and that's because if you want to go after any structure you start by attacking the authority and so it's been seared into an entire generation of people if not two or three generations on some level that dad is stupid and not to be respected and made fun of and I think part of it
00:23:44.000Is just a result of the fact that a lot of artistic people who go into Hollywood don't have great relationships with their fathers, generally speaking.
00:23:50.000I think that's more typical, not always the case.
00:23:52.000I think it's a reaction of feminism, because feminists for a long time were claiming that you shouldn't show women as being stupid, but that only leaves the guys.
00:23:58.000Yeah, I think there's truth in that too.
00:24:01.000But even if you go back to the honeymooners, which I would say is before feminism had saturated the culture as much, the husband was still sort of weak and stupid and very lucky to have his wife.
00:24:27.000In Futurama, they go to the moon and it's a thousand years in the future.
00:24:30.000And they're watching The Honeymooners and it's like, one of these days, bang, zoom, straight to the moon.
00:24:37.000And then Lila's like, I didn't realize 20th century astronauts were so fat.
00:24:41.000And then Fry's like, he's not an astronaut.
00:24:43.000And he was just using beating his wife as a metaphor for, or he was using space travel as a metaphor for beating his wife.
00:24:49.000I'm wondering if in all this division of family in the Soviet Union when they did it, were there kids that basically had their beliefs shattered and then reformed and then at some point realized, maybe even too late, like what have we done as the government turns on them?
00:25:01.000Like, are these people that are like useful pawns, are they turned on eventually?
00:25:05.000Oh yeah, I mean, then Stalin turned on the secret police, and then he turned on the top of the military, which was a major problem in World War II, because all the military geniuses were killed.
00:25:13.000Another thing that they taught in the Soviet Union, very famously, was the story of Pavlik Morozov, who was this little boy whose dad was like a hoarding grain.
00:25:22.000And he turned his dad into the authorities and his dad killed him.
00:25:25.000This is a completely made-up story, but there were statues built to him and like songs about him because you're taught in school if your parents are doing something wrong, you have to inform on them, and if you're killed, you basically become a saint.
00:25:36.000This is the greatest thing you can do.
00:26:10.000The first season is... There's this... The last city, it's surrounded by three walls, and there are giant humanoid monsters called Titans that eat people.
00:26:25.000into the power to become titans and use it to conquer the world. Eventually the nation crumbles,
00:26:29.000I'm not going to spoil too much, and now in the future these people are effectively in a prison
00:26:33.000to pay the sins of their ancestors. In the mainland where some of these people are called
00:26:38.000Elian still live, the now dominant country says you're evil because of what your ancestors did
00:26:44.000and so you're they're forced to live on reservations.
00:26:46.000And then they're basically treated like second-class citizens.
00:26:49.000People say, like, whenever they come in a situation with someone, they're like, yeah, well, you have the evil blood within you.
00:26:57.000So there's a scene where a kid turns his parents in because they're trying to rebel against the government because you know they refused.
00:27:03.000They believe in the greatness of themselves and things like that.
00:27:06.000There's a whole bunch of themes that that talk about a lot of what we're going through with sins of the father, white privilege, Gulags and all of that stuff and that's what the show is really about and so at first I was like I gotta be honest when when someone told me it's about people who like use these ropes to fight Giants I'm like I really don't want to watch that yeah And then when the robot Jordan Peterson said you gotta watch attack on Titan or you can do private you have to watch it on right now watch attack on Titan embody the archetypal hero sit on your couch, so I watched it and then it's like
00:27:38.000It's crazy how there's like one scene where there's two little girls and one little girl's mother was killed, but she's the evil race.
00:27:46.000And so then the one girl, she's like, your people are evil and your mother deserved to die.
00:29:42.000It's not that April Fool's, it's thought came from about 1582 as France made a change from the Julian calendar to the Gregorian calendar.
00:29:48.000April 1st was the first day of the year in the Julian calendar.
00:29:51.000And then when they changed it to January, they started making fun of, you said, probably making fun of people that still lived under the Julian calendar as they're all now Gregorian.
00:29:58.000So, I- and I mentioned that before we started the show.
00:30:00.000I mentioned that before starting the show.
00:30:02.000My citation was an episode of The Simpsons.
00:31:21.000So if it's like 1am, you want to get a bite, you go on IHOP, which was a situation.
00:31:25.000But I am turning my house into like this get together space so that all the people coming through can, I throw these little events, everyone can meet each other and hang out.
00:31:34.000And I did only one so far and it's worked absolutely swimmingly.
00:31:54.000But the reason I asked is I was like, maybe the people who are sharing all of this live in New York and New York is so crowded that they would take reservations at diners.
00:32:08.000It was a French-Canadian restaurant that served diner-ish, but really high-end food.
00:32:11.000We definitely took reservations, but it wasn't a diner, you know?
00:32:14.000It wasn't like, you know, you get your diner food, your $7.95.
00:32:17.000There is a restaurant in New York, I don't know if it survived COVID, called Diner, but they did take reservations, but obviously that wasn't your menu.
00:32:25.000Yeah, I've never been to a diner that took reservations.
00:32:28.000It was the weirdest thing to me when the left was like, Tim Pool is so dumb, he doesn't know what a reservation is.
00:32:31.000And I was like, bro, we're at a diner.
00:32:34.000You walk in and there's one haggard old lady with a cigarette going, wait, do you want to sit?
00:32:39.000No, she goes, sit any way you want, honey.
00:32:41.000Well, no, they were like, there's a wait, there's a 20 minute wait.
00:32:49.000And then I tweeted about it kind of as like a half joke, because I just tweet to be silly, but also because I was making a point about being a disagreeable person on petty bullshit, and the point being that it helps you in business, being disagreeable, especially on petty things.
00:33:07.000You don't want to be a dick to people, but if you're unwilling to compromise for small things, then you'll tend to get better deals.
00:33:13.000And you have to establish your own boundaries, too.
00:33:34.000I booked the flight, I get back, I do a killer interview, they really liked it, great.
00:33:38.000And they're like, alright, before you get reimbursed, you need to fill out this W-2 or W-9.
00:33:43.000And I go, you have all the information you need, you have my PayPal address, and you have the receipt, you can choose to pay me back or not, that's your prerogative, I'm not doing one more thing.
00:33:53.000I'm like, you have, I've said my pieces on Yes Discuss, they paid me.
00:33:57.000But that's the kind of thing where that was me being very, very petty.
00:34:01.000But it's amazing how companies will make you jump through hoops, even when you're helping them.
00:34:06.000And I'm very big on really being obnoxious about it and drawing the line ahead of time, because otherwise, they'll just keep asking for more and more and more.
00:35:10.000If the filthy hippie is telling you to walk in the business meeting and say, give me, give me, give me, you know it's coming from a place of truth.
00:38:13.000I actually snapped at one of the biggest production companies and distributors in the world.
00:38:20.000I had this big business meeting, I'm in a room with like 10 people, and I don't want to give away too much information for the sake of their privacy because they work with some people, very very famous personalities.
00:38:28.000They sent me a contract with the most insane and ridiculous terms I'd ever seen.
00:38:32.000And I responded back with, is this a joke?
00:38:35.000Please, if you'd like to do a deal with me, come back with a real contract.
00:38:38.000And they said, this is normal in business.
00:38:40.000You would hire an attorney who would amend the contract.
00:38:43.000And I said, if you think I'm gonna spend five grand to correct your bullshit, it's not happening.
00:38:48.000And so I just said, feel free never to email me again, because I'm not gonna waste my time one second further.
00:38:53.000Yeah, that happened to me not that long also, where there's some congressman from Brooklyn, I forget his name.
00:39:16.000Yeah, but there's there's something about not being Joe Rogan, I guess, to use it for lack of a better analogy, where these people think you're willing to take this because we get we get hit up fairly often from people who are like, Can I ask you, do you think it's that not being Joe Rogan or the fact that they're so oblivious to how podcasting works and how the internet works that they really don't think in terms of CNN hits?
00:39:36.000Maybe, but I'm pretty sure if they reached out to Joe and Joe was like, I'd love to have him on the show, they would say, tell us how, you know, where to jump and how high.
00:39:46.000Because when I, when the new write came out in, I believe, 2019, I got booked to do Rogan and I got booked to do Ruben, who was very big at the time, both of them, obviously.
00:39:55.000And I asked my publisher if they had money for travel, which they don't always do, and that's fair.
00:40:01.000And they told me in writing, just the head of publicity, no, they can do Skype.
00:40:05.000So this was 2019, and the idea that I got on Rogan to promote this book, and I'm gonna call him up and be, hey Joe, we're doing Skype, is so removed from what is, you and I would regard as normal or sane, that a lot of times I have to wonder what planet these people are on.
00:40:21.000It's true, but we've gotten hit up by people who work in a similar space.
00:40:26.000And they'll be like, hey, this celebrity, this prominent personality can come on your show, but you'll have to pre-record or move your schedule.
00:40:33.000And I'm like, you guys work in the same industry.
00:40:36.000And you know what else they don't realize is a lot of these people that are maybe big names for people who read OK Magazine, if that's still a thing, you're not going to get the big numbers having them on the show because it's going to be vanilla.
00:40:45.000They're not going to say anything interesting.
00:40:47.000And it's going to be like people tune in, but you're not going to have the traction.
00:40:50.000They think because they get a bunch of views on their platform, which was provided for them by someone else who built it, that you're lucky to have them on your show to collaborate with them.
00:40:58.000It's like, well, but they're not interested.
00:40:59.000Let's hard segue back to the politics stuff we were talking about.
00:41:02.000I wanted to ask you, Michael, about... Let's talk about what's going on with Russia and Ukraine.
00:42:10.000Vladimir Putin going for the Spear of Destiny.
00:42:14.000I raised like five grand for Ukrainian refugees.
00:42:18.000My dad was recently, he had business in Ukraine.
00:42:21.000He was on a train getting out of there and he was seating next to some kid and the kid kept crying saying, they're going to kill my dad, they're going to kill my dad.
00:42:28.000I heard this through my sister and my dad, who I've never seen cry in my life, who was kind of, which is a big surprise looking at me.
00:42:35.000kind of an ass and not a very nice person just like myself.
00:42:40.000For him to lose it really says a lot, which is why I was comfortable raising all that money. What
00:42:44.000is not in dispute is that millions of people fled war, understandably. And my concerns are
00:42:49.000also with the Russian population, mind you. Like the fact that someone's living in Russia now
00:42:53.000they can't use their phone or they can't use some bank account just seems crazy to me
00:42:57.000unless we're talking about high up people.
00:42:58.000Yeah, but look at what Russia is back on track.
00:43:00.000Well, yeah, and the ruble has restored its value.
00:43:03.000They turned McDonald's, they turned the M like sideways to make it a B and now it's
00:43:07.000called like Uncle something. No, is it really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:43:10.000They've repurposed. What Joe Biden has done is he severed the ties between Russia and the West.
00:43:27.000He said, you've got to open Russian bank accounts.
00:43:29.000It's forcing Western nations to open Russian banks, propping up their financial industry or their financial sector.
00:43:36.000As you and I mentioned a little before the show started, what they're doing is an enormous attack on the value of the dollar, whether by design or otherwise.
00:43:47.000And if I'm a businessman and I see what happened with Canada with the trucker convoy, and I see what's happening with inflation here, and I see that my money is not going to be safe in US or Western banks, I'm going to put my money elsewhere to make sure that money retains or increases in value.
00:44:04.000And that is a very dangerous, slippery slope we are going down, whether by design or otherwise.
00:44:09.000Well, you heard the BlackRock guy saying, put your seatbelts on, it's going to get real bad.
00:44:14.000But I think we all knew, because one of the things that we all talked about in like early 2020, mid 2020 is you can't just shut down all industry and not have an economic like massive consequence.
00:44:26.000Like that's not a thing or else every so often we could just be like school teachers just not work for three months a year.
00:44:31.000So at some point those chickens are going to have to come home to roost.
00:46:32.000If I've got cash, I can pull out a $5 bill and hand it to Ian in exchange for a beanie or something.
00:46:37.000But if we're doing Bitcoin, my address can get blocked on the network if they control transactions.
00:46:42.000So the Bitcoin... Let me clarify this.
00:46:46.000If they can get control of apps, if they can get control of financial institutions, there are companies that facilitate Bitcoin transactions.
00:46:54.000You'll always be able to have your rudimentary decentralized service, and you can find an open source way to transfer Bitcoin.
00:47:16.000So, no one's going to- no one right now- No average person is gonna open up a Coinbase account and an open-source third-party wallet because it's gonna be too confusing for them or they're not gonna care.
00:47:27.000If they are into crypto, it's gonna be because it was simplified by, say, Coinbase or Gemini or something.
00:48:34.000Bitcoin is still, you know, the bee's niece, right?
00:48:38.000Regardless of what bad people want to do with it, don't let that stop you from recognizing how powerful it is and how it can greatly, you know, help people.
00:49:52.000So this is how asset forfeiture works and there's a lot of movement right now in politics, thank God, to rein this in.
00:49:58.000For the first time, I think, in the last year or the year before, more money was seized through asset forfeiture than through all burglaries combined.
00:50:04.000So basically, it goes to this medieval concept where if I kill you with a sword, the sword is guilty and the sword can be destroyed.
00:50:12.000So basically, what their point is, well, we're not going to allow, as part of the drug war, people to enrich themselves through drug dealing and so on and so forth.
00:50:21.000So I go to your house, I've decided that you're a drug dealer, so on and so forth.
00:50:25.000I seize all of your assets, your boat, your house, your... I seize your bank accounts, and they become basically the property of the cops.
00:50:33.000And then you have to sue, although you have not gone through due process and been found guilty, to get that stuff back.
00:50:40.000Now it's really hard to sue when all your money's spent and all your assets have been taken from you.
00:50:57.000And I gotta tell you, if someone is a drug dealer, as which something I do not support, to have like, every penny that they have just taken from them overnight, seems a bit much when that's not done to murderers or people who harm children.
00:52:56.000It's got stuff like coming through Puerto Rico.
00:52:57.000Well, the other thing in the bill that I saw is also it's retroactively letting people clear their records.
00:53:03.000That's why I want to, well, Donald Trump, as I stated, should have granted clemency and pardoned all nonviolent drug offenses that weren't plea deal, like that weren't plead down.
00:53:14.000So some people, you know, at first I was saying, like, he should let all these nonviolent drug offenders go.
00:53:19.000Some people are like, well, what if they sold to kids?
00:53:40.000If you're someone who is on a grand jury, and the point of a grand jury is the DA or assistant DA puts forth the evidence, and the grand jury says, is there enough evidence here to charge the person and put them on trial?
00:53:51.000Our legal system, it's not your charge.
00:53:53.000You have to get those charges approved by a grand jury.
00:53:56.000If you're on a grand jury, it is very easy to convince those grand jurors not to return charges on a drug charge, and there's nothing the district attorney can do about it.
00:54:05.000So this is your ability, if someone is a non-violent drug salesman or whatever, to get that person off and save a life, especially if they're young and poor.
00:54:14.000I don't think... Here's the challenge, and I think this will be a good conversation with you, Michael.
00:54:20.000Are there some drugs that should be illegal?
00:54:45.000Yeah, this would be resolved overnight.
00:54:47.000So then, well, this is why I ask, right?
00:54:50.000Because then you have the issue of what if some guy is arrested for selling, let's say he's got 10,000 doses of fentanyl, and let's say they're not misnumbered or whatever, and he dishes them out throughout a city, this person should not be in jail or, you know, what do you think?
00:55:15.000I think all drugs should be regulated by the market.
00:55:17.000The same way that, for example, if you're Jewish and you keep kosher, it's very important for you that you eat food that is in common with kosher law.
00:55:24.000Otherwise, it's like a major, major sin.
00:55:26.000And people don't realize this, but every food in the supermarket has a little letter K And the K is not even strict enough.
00:55:32.000So the people who trust the... there's a U. That's for Passover.
00:55:36.000If you're really strict, you have to have a U, not a K. What is the U?
00:55:40.000The U is like a different kind of licensing agency, a rabbinical licensing agency.
00:55:43.000So what you would have is, instead of having it be the FDA, who is, you know, large to corrupt and whatever, you would have, just like right now in Whole Foods, you'll have Fair Trade or the little stamp.
00:55:52.000I was on the plane just now, and the pretzels on the back said woman owned.
00:55:56.000So if that's something that matters to you, you can look for that label.
00:55:58.000I mean, The pretzels would not shut up and they were really annoying.
00:56:00.000But the funny thing about that is when it's like woman-owned, is that if you are a sexist you could choose to discriminate against these businesses, whereas like if it's- Well no, the pretzels- Well no, or you could be like, well I want more women cooking, women cooking the best.
00:56:12.000No, they cost 80%, they cost 80% as much as the male-owned pretzels.
00:56:34.000You said that the fentanyl was about the dosing, the dosing.
00:56:38.000So if people were just like, I don't, there's no regulation on it and the market dictates, and he's like, well, he's addicted to it so I can give him as much as I want because the market's dictating, the guy's pocketbook is dictating what he wants, but it's a drug addiction.
00:57:08.000Like, there's a drugstore that's got all of the drugs, all of them, and you could choose to do it, you know, but the store couldn't give you an overdose.
00:57:16.000Like, you'd walk in and say— You can only buy one dose at a time?
00:57:36.000You can only tan for X amount of minutes.
00:57:39.000So what they do is they just hit six tanning salons.
00:57:41.000And they also have right now, there's a workaround for addicts where they go prescription shopping.
00:57:45.000So I'll have four doctors give you prescriptions and then I'll get them all filled.
00:57:49.000So addicts, the thing that people need to appreciate is addicts are really, really good at resolving their addiction and getting workarounds.
00:57:56.000Because their entire identity and their entire worldview is about getting that drug.
00:58:01.000So to pretend that they're going to be playing by the rules, as opposed to, we have to realize what we're dealing with and kind of work to mitigate harm.
00:58:09.000So let's say the regulation is that the fentanyl, for instance, it's being sold by a private legal entity.
00:58:16.000The doses have to be measured perfectly and isolated as single doses.
00:58:26.000But if there's a formalized process that the government's like, hey, if you're selling these things, you have to use, like, a specific machine that guarantees the dosage so that you can't give someone the wrong dose.
00:58:36.000But that's also, right now in California, like, if you go to, like, dispensaries, they can only be, like, 20 milligrams tops.
00:58:42.000So it's got this weird kind of situation where... No, but I mean, like, You'll get a pill pack, right?
00:58:49.000Like you will for, you know, Tylenol or whatever.
00:58:52.000And it's just like, this is 25 milligrams of drug.
00:58:59.000But that's what the market would have.
00:59:01.000There's no other, there's no like, it's not like you go to buy vodka and one bottle of absolute is going to be 80 proof, the other one's 10 proof.
00:59:40.000But you're saying it sounds like you don't even need regulation in that capacity because I suppose the bigger threat is that they're going to be shorting you.
00:59:48.000They're going to tell you it's a dose, but it's a half dose to save money.
00:59:50.000They're going to be like, oh yeah, this is 20 milligrams.
00:59:54.000That's when you have branding because then it becomes, oh, that stuff's weak.
01:05:02.000We talked about this when I was on with Alex, which is the idea that in the same way that a drawing of you is you in 2D, and this is 3D Tim, and the elves live in 4D, right?
01:05:18.000The point being that In the same way that I could draw Batman and he exists in the drawing, but Batman doesn't exist in 3D here on this earth, a lot of people that we see around us in 3D don't exist in 4D.
01:05:29.000So they are, in fact, background characters who do not have a higher I being.
01:05:32.000Well, so the machine elves tell you secrets.
01:05:40.000So that's kind of my idea that it's that you're getting a connection to them, that they're explaining things to you and sharing ideas and information.
01:05:47.000And so those with more natural DMT in their system might have a stronger connection to hearing the whispers and the muse and the secrets.
01:05:55.000Well, the other point that apparently there's a big distinction between people who take DMT and just see kind of shapes and colors and those who actually communicate with these entities.
01:06:04.000And I don't know what causes this divide between the two groups.
01:06:36.000Maybe they literally don't have souls.
01:06:38.000I was just thinking, it might be that calcification of the pineal gland has something to do with it, that if you're calcified and you're blocking, you're still seeing the shapes and patterns, but you're not seeing it clear enough to notice that it's sentient, maybe even.
01:06:50.000I don't know if the sentient's the right word, but it's not alive.
01:06:53.000I wouldn't call it alive, but intelligent?
01:06:55.000Is that a fair word to describe this field, this force?
01:07:55.000You know, coffee is actually attributed with ending the, uh, or, or starting the enlightenment, kicking the enlightenment age of enlightenment off.
01:08:00.000They would sit around and stop those bars.
01:08:52.000And that, that if you're, if you're clouded and you're, you're calcified, that you're, you're not in control of the, of the field around you.
01:08:59.000Like your, your red blood cells have iron, which are magnetic and you can not, maybe not control the magnetic field around you, but it, I don't think people appreciate how much wisdom it is and what Ian says, and the more you watch the show and the more you listen to him, the more, like, suss it out.
01:09:11.000like you don't have a soul but I think people go in and out of either having a
01:09:15.000soul or not having one depending on if you're calcified or not and maybe it's
01:09:17.000not just calcified. I don't think people appreciate how much wisdom it is and
01:09:21.000what Ian says and the more you watch the show and the more you listen to him the
01:09:23.000more like suss it out this guy knows what he's talking about.
01:09:26.000But what I just thought that's not April Fool's.
01:09:37.000Here's the threshold of the dimensional barrier.
01:09:39.000We're down here milling about like little people all talking, shaking hands and watching and observing.
01:09:44.000Then you move up into the fourth dimensional plane and you can see there's like tethers coming out of the people into the fourth dimension.
01:09:49.000From that perspective, it looks like each individual person has some fourth dimensional presence.
01:09:53.000What if, when you moved up to an even higher state, you can see that all of those lines coming out are connected to the hands of one being, and get this, what the people actually are are like sensory antennas that are just dipped into the water to collect information and then come back part of one being.
01:10:08.000But the elves are kind of like paper dolls.
01:10:11.000So like paper dolls is basically it's you can one sense.
01:10:13.000It's one being it's another sense It's it, but you couldn't see one ends of the other so they kind of meld into each other Is it the kind of thing where if you touch your hands?
01:10:21.000Yeah, I'm agreeing with you if you touch your hands together You feel your left hand with your right hand you can feel it with your right hand You could feel your right hand with your left hand you have both feelings at the same time But in reality I can only feel what Ian feels and Tim can only feel what Tim feels but in the fourth dimension There's a being that feels both.
01:10:42.000And the thing is that it's very confusing, not confusing, but there's just a lot of questions about why this substance would have such extreme effects on people just from an evolutionary perspective.
01:10:53.000How does that idea... And why those effects be the same for everybody.
01:10:56.000How does that idea jive with your idea on religion and God?
01:12:40.000I feel like Michael from the Archangel from the Bible and his friends would take hallucinogens together and have shared hallucinations and that was God talking through them and Michael was the best one.
01:12:52.000I'm curious why... What is the history of the Archangels?
01:13:02.000Like angels doing DMT, I don't know where that comes from.
01:13:04.000I'm very literal and realistic, like I'm very into like common sense and realism, so I'm trying to make a realistic story about ancient history that seems kind of almost magical.
01:13:13.000But I think you're trying to look at too much through the lens of psychedelics because, A, I mean, you're discounting the possibility for there to be legitimate supernatural experiences and also you're discounting that if they aren't legitimately supernatural that maybe somebody made it up.
01:13:26.000But I think you project psychedelic experience onto basically everything that doesn't fit within the ordinary confines of what we see in everyday life.
01:13:34.000Since I started getting into Terrence McKenna and the stone-dape theory, the idea that hominids at some point started eating psilocybin and gaining consciousness and awareness, that has really turned me on to looking at the history through that lens now, a lot of times.
01:13:47.000And when they say they saw Jesus walking on water, like, yo, I took acid.
01:13:50.000I know what hallucinations are, and when you see people, like, whoa.
01:13:54.000But do people on acid all hallucinate the exact same person doing the exact same thing at the exact same time?
01:13:58.000This is what Michael brought up, is that people can break through and have the same experience.
01:14:22.000Charles Manson is a fantastic example.
01:14:24.000Also, don't you think if DMTs reuse it, and I'm not just talking about biblically, but in any scriptural text from any religion, don't you think they would mention psychedelics?
01:14:32.000Because we know that psychedelics are part of a lot of pagan religions and they discuss it, so if they were part of these other religions and that's how the texts were inspired, why wouldn't that be discussed?
01:14:40.000I think you have to read a lot into it to come away with that conclusion.
01:14:43.000On the other hand, we don't know what manna is.
01:15:28.000I think the big difference is if you're looking at psychedelics, I think someone who believed that they had a supernatural ability would say it's something found in the natural world that leads to the supernatural experience, whereas man is the exact opposite.
01:15:37.000It's something that appeared supernaturally but gave them the natural experience of eating.
01:15:41.000We had a really good idea for a bit on Castcastle, where in the background- Castcastle?
01:15:57.000One of the jokes was that, like, Ian will be talking to someone about something semi, you know, just inane, and then in the background you see a pizza delivery guy, like, handing the pizza to Seamus, and he pulls out a potato and hands it to the pizza guy, who then pulls out two smaller potatoes and hands change back.
01:16:11.000Would it be hysterical if like I talked about potatoes the way like Ian will bring up psychedelics I'm like no dude.
01:16:26.000Why exactly because you can I think that when the authorities were writing the Bible that they were like, if they take psychedelics, they're going to overthrow reality because that's what it makes you do.
01:16:40.000First of all, secular or religious, there are no scriptural scholars who believe that the Bible is written by a group of authorities.
01:16:47.000They understand that these texts were not just compiled by one group trying to tell a story, but also If you're saying the authorities were writing the Bible, that's a different article.
01:16:59.000So scriptural scholars, including the atheistic ones, don't hold the view that like a group of people got together and said, let's write the Bible and make this story.
01:17:13.000And so, Ian, I think my question is, or I guess my point to you saying, because your question or your point here seems to conflict with the other point you made, because you're saying, They got together, they wrote the Bible to have a specific message, and they didn't want us to use psychedelics.
01:17:27.000But your earlier claim was it actually happened, but these people were just using psychedelics and writing it from their perspective.
01:17:45.000Let's not talk about the psychedelic stuff.
01:17:47.000So the problem I have with that is the people who brought the various scriptures that they had in their possession to the Council of Nicaea were really persecuted in order to have them.
01:17:55.000So some of them had their eyes gouged out.
01:17:57.000Some people were killed for having these scriptures because they're being persecuted for their beliefs.
01:18:01.000And I don't think a text could mean that much to you, for you to get together with a group of people and say, you know what, let's just mess with this and have it say whatever we want and remove the important details.
01:18:43.000People are fairly familiar with your frame of mind, and you're like, I think it was tripping.
01:18:47.000But there's literally an infinite number of explanations for why someone could hallucinate something.
01:18:51.000You know that laughing disease that they had for a while that was ergot?
01:18:54.000A lot of the stuff comes from ergot, which is a fungus that grows on rye that makes people trip out, but it's also very harsh on your stomach, and they would drink it with wine.
01:19:00.000But I think, Ian, the problem with that is when you look at literally any historic document we have, you can make the same argument, even if it's describing something which seems perfectly natural.
01:19:09.000Well, this person could have just been hallucinating because they were on drugs.
01:19:11.000We don't know that they're describing this properly.
01:19:13.000Yeah, I don't want to come out and say it happened like that.
01:19:15.000I think you have to have a specific...
01:19:19.000I think you have to have a specific reason besides saying this text is difficult to believe to make the case that the people who wrote it were on drugs.
01:19:26.000I've heard that it was the acacia plant, which if you burn it and breathe it in, you start to have psychoactive hallucinations, and that Moses was sitting by a bush to start talking to him, and then he started hearing God, like, you know, I've heard God at burning, man.
01:19:37.000I took a bunch of mushrooms for a week, and you start to hear the vibration make sentient sound.
01:19:42.000It's, I don't know where it's coming from or what, but it is a real thing, and I was on psychoactives at the time.
01:19:51.000I think my point is whether you have a suit.
01:19:54.000Obviously, I have a supernatural worldview.
01:19:55.000I believe it was God, but I think even if you don't believe it was God, you can have explanations aside from this must have been it could be Moses is lying.
01:20:04.000Yeah, no, he's a crazy person. Exactly. I mean if it could be it really happened or it could be it didn't happen
01:20:09.000Or someone made it up about this to make it sound smart Exactly well because we know historically that people will
01:20:14.000make stories up And so if you don't believe these stories are true because
01:20:17.000you don't think what's described could possibly have happened
01:20:19.000There are so many other explanations besides they were on drugs. They were doing so let's
01:20:23.000Some stuff on mana. No, no, no, you You guys need to have your long religious debate.
01:20:28.000Let me read this about manna really quick.
01:22:02.000So in the Jewish perspective, to be like focusing on the afterlife, when God has given you this amazing gift of life and how wondrous it is and how he wants you to be happy and achieve and just thrive and to just be looking toward dessert is really like spitting in his face.
01:22:16.000I once had a very Christian friend of mine tell me that she couldn't wait until she died.
01:22:21.000When Ayn Rand was on Donahue and he asked her, he goes, what's wrong with saying, you know, I love life, everything's great, but man, I can't wait to die and find out what's going on.
01:23:28.000Well, I would say what I disagree with is that a belief in an afterlife necessitates a rejection of gratitude for this life.
01:23:35.000Yeah, we actually talked last night about some people that are just living for the now and take, take, take.
01:23:40.000They're not, it used to be that like, hey, do good in this life because when you die, if you didn't do good in this life, you're going to be punished.
01:23:46.000So people would, they wouldn't overthrow and burn things down.
01:23:49.000These people, these, I don't know if you call them godless, but if it's just all about now with nothing, I think we would agree on this, that you have to be grateful for and appreciate life, but you have to be willing to sacrifice it if there's a necessary cause.
01:24:02.000Like, you'd have to be willing to fight for, like, for your family.
01:24:05.000If someone's trying to kill your family, it wouldn't be right to run away.
01:24:11.000If you believe there is something beyond you, then you would recognize the other person's individual rights and liberties.
01:24:18.000So, for me, that's kind of my worldview.
01:24:20.000Like, why would I respect someone else's life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness?
01:24:23.000It's because I want them to respect mine.
01:24:26.000If you don't think anyone else exists or matters, you'll be solely egotistical and strive for power and personal gain at any cost.
01:24:32.000Are there other sects of Judaism that do believe in an afterlife in a more overt sense?
01:24:36.000They all believe in an afterlife to some extent, but they don't focus on it anywhere near as much.
01:24:41.000And one of the versions I've heard is that everyone goes to hell, and your sins are burnt off, and if you're really bad you're burnt to a crisp, then everyone goes to heaven and there's levels of heaven.
01:24:52.000Very little focus on the afterlife in Judaism.
01:24:54.000Like if the soul is an energy field that it's getting like coursed through the Earth's core, you're sensing that hellish fire and then it's courses through the galactic core and you burn with fiery rage and then you're let off into the universe.
01:25:08.000I would not say it's an exact equivalent, but that's interesting because that is sort of similar to the idea of purgatory, though we don't believe everyone goes there.
01:25:16.000It's like if you went into the forest and you got covered in those little brambles all over you, those spiky little things, and then they're like, you're like, I can't get them off, so someone just takes a flamethrower and just burns you until they all get roasted, and then you're like, thank you!
01:25:26.000Well, yeah, I mean, I guess the difference is... It's exactly like that.
01:25:31.000Literally, that's in the top, that's in the top list.
01:25:36.000I guess I can't speak for the Talmud, but I know the purgation that Catholics describe is something that purges you of your sin, but it doesn't leave you less than you were.
01:25:45.000Which I would imagine is what you guys are also arguing, that it makes you better because it's getting rid of the sinful aspects.
01:26:21.000And the fourth dimensional being was like, those cool, those Michael Bills.
01:26:23.000Right, but that's like, if you do a drawing of yourself and have a comic strip where Tim and Ian are going to the store, blah blah blah, and then you rip out the comic strip, Tim and Ian are still existing.
01:26:32.000Well yeah, but what I mean is like, you, Michael, being controlled by a fourth dimensional being... Not controlled, a projection.
01:26:39.000But what I'm saying is like, when I play a video game, sure, like the character on the screen is a projection of my will in the game, but when the character gets mutilated and erased, I just get up and I'm like, bye, and the character's gone.
01:26:50.000So for you, or me in this world, once we're done, there's going to be like some some fat fourth dimensional dude in
01:26:57.000his basement going like, goes, Oh, that was cool. I got to level 50.
01:27:01.000There are no fat people in the fourth dimension. That I can assure you.
01:27:06.000You know what I mean, I'm making a joke.
01:27:07.000I've never seen a fat person in the fourth dimension.
01:27:17.000I've never seen a thin person in the third dimension quite very clearly.
01:27:20.000Tim, would that be such a bad thing if this was basically just a big video game and then, you know, us as avatars vanish and then the fourth dimensional Tim is still around and he gets another shot at it?
01:27:29.000Yeah, but what I mean is, we are not the fourth dimensional character.
01:28:33.000And what I'm saying is, what if it's not like that?
01:28:35.000What if it's a fourth-dimensional being taking a controller and controlling you, and then when you die, he puts the controller down and leaves?
01:29:12.000I wonder, like, if we are apparitions of a fourth-dimensional energy force or something, like, why is it twisting together in the shape that it is?
01:29:19.000Why is matter bound in these boundary conditions?
01:29:37.000As kind of... It's hard to describe what you just said.
01:29:41.000You came to a decent conclusion that, you know, God... I made statements that I didn't back up, basically, and then said, so why?
01:29:48.000No, but I mean, like, a lot of these questions have answers, but not... It's, you know, if we talk about the fundamental forces of the universe that we think we know as humans through science... Yeah, subatomic forces like quarks and leptons.
01:30:01.000Then there's still questions on where those forces lead to after that.
01:30:41.000Well, so there are certain teachers, like there are things that...
01:30:46.000If the church has established something as an infallible teaching, they can't go back on it.
01:30:50.000He can add to things, or he can issue statements about administrative things or his opinion on something, but they can't reverse a teaching that was already there.
01:31:02.000I thought they said Limbo no longer exists.
01:31:06.000It's not the case that Catholics can't believe in limbo.
01:31:10.000And as far as I understand, again, there are people far more educated than me on this who will argue that it is something Catholics should believe.
01:31:17.000It's not mandated by the church, but it also wasn't the church taking something that was in the magisterium and saying, no, the opposite is now true.
01:31:26.000Or do they talk about psychedelics and say, don't do it?
01:31:28.000Yeah, well, there's a passage in the Catechism about drugs.
01:31:32.000We gotta go to Super Chat, so if you haven't already... The argument is psychedelics aren't drugs, but they're medicine.
01:32:32.000We've been really slammed, but I just got a list of things from Chris and Andy that we are going to try to get patched up so we can get this thing rolling.
01:32:41.000How can you do something called Freedom Tunes and not once animate the best anarchist ever?
01:33:49.000I'm like, no single person who's going to watch or listen to this show is also going to be like, you know, I heard an ad for CNN Plus and I decided it's a good thing.
01:34:12.000I'm into like... Well, so I was talking earlier when, when, uh, Starbucks announced that they were supporting the, uh, the protest against parental rights in education.
01:35:43.000I can't think of anyone off the top of my head because I think that if someone had tough questions, I would honestly say, let me get back to you.
01:36:45.000Disneyland lifer and disney parks fan here not a disney fan went back into the park in july there were new faces and unfriendly environment the cms and lifers have suspected since before the pandemic that corporate has been up to something you know what you know i've been mentioning recently i did a segment on this today that uh have you seen the people on tiktok acting like uh animated characters no there's something called like the 12 principles of animation scary and this trend emerged where young people started acting like they're in disney pixar films so you know the characters and those things yeah so they started doing it and now young people are actually literally adopting the behavior because they see tiktokers doing it good lord so they're they're developing like
01:37:29.000Yeah, almost like the 12 principles of animation are in large part to make your visuals look more lifelike But it's also the case that in animation you want your poses to read really well So you'll have them move in ways that a person wouldn't move in real life just to communicate the expression So, for example, ideally the expression should be recognizable via silhouette.
01:37:49.000If you didn't see that person's face, you should be able to tell from their body how they're feeling.
01:38:44.000I wonder if you could buy like a coffee farm in South America, buy one, buy a coffee farm in South America and just import your own coffee beans.
01:38:51.000You know, we'll do, we'll do, we'll set up the first store and it'll be the, the, the, the coffee beanie, a physical location that sells just coffee goods like Starbucks would, but we exclusively source Krigler coffee.
01:40:46.000Oh, so one of our videos that we'll release, or one of the series we do, is it's these two intellectuals who sit in their bunker.
01:40:53.000They're hiding from the general public because they don't want to catch the stupid, and in order to stay sharp, they watch YouTube videos and debunk them.
01:40:59.000And so we'll take videos that have a lot of nonsense in them that are popular and being shared around, and we'll have them watch it and pause the video and then comment on it.
01:41:08.000Explain what everybody with and they're there honestly, there's a lot of research that goes into those which is
01:41:13.000part of why it's it's difficult To put them together, but we have a couple of them in the
01:41:16.000works right now are those freedom tunes also Yeah, they're on the freedom tunes channel. So from an
01:41:19.000animation perspective, they're much easier. But from a writing and research perspective
01:41:22.000They're much more difficult All right, Liberty or death says malice looks like a post-apocalyptic
01:41:26.000Version of Tim pool from a Star Trek episode who came through a temporal distortion to warn us about the Marxist.
01:41:32.000Yeah I think it's the beard. Yeah, which looks great. By the way
01:42:59.000Yeah, but I'm more important than his children.
01:43:00.000You know Teddy Roosevelt, while he was in office, would just leave the White House for weeks at a time and go hunting and no one knew where he was.
01:43:40.000Massie unfollowed me because he got butthurt when I was making jokes about Ron Paul, but the jokes weren't about Ron Paul, they were about Joe Biden.
01:43:47.000Thomas Massey said, the MORE Act is supposed to make marijuana more legal, but it creates more crimes, more federal taxes, more government spending, and more central planning.
01:44:16.000Orangejuice410404 says, listening to yesterday's IRL episode, Google Podcasts, I found it ironic that an ad for CNN Plus played, and I quote, quote, get access to live news and shows from trusted journalists.
01:46:03.000Venice Beach Dub Club says Tim's theory about DMT amount DMT amount present in your system relating to your connection to God equals midichlorians and the force from Star Wars episode one.
01:46:16.000I hated that midi-chlorian thing, but I guess they're right.
01:46:19.000Could you imagine being as uncultured as Michael Malice?
01:46:21.000Dude, what if you could have so much DMT access that you were a Jedi?
01:46:26.000That's the most Ian thing I've ever heard you say.
01:46:30.000There's like a Russian military chemical called AMT, amethyltryptamine, which is apparently like the limitless drug where people will be like for 12 hour states, they'll have like everything will synchronize and crazy.
01:46:47.000Ayahuasca makes you produce long-form DMT.
01:46:51.000Alright, KKC says, Tim trying to describe DMT in the multiverse just feels like the Time Lords and the Untempered Schism but with more steps.
01:47:00.000By the way, I want to say something that's going to upset every single person listening to this and everyone in this room, which is we are about two years out, three years out from corporate psychedelics.
01:47:11.000Which is going to be the biggest nightmare that has ever existed.
01:47:14.000And they're going to be in the metaverse with psychedelics.
01:47:17.000I know, I think we're heading there, but I think there's... I don't think it's too much of a stretch at all, because there is... It's not a stretch.
01:47:24.000There's something very consumerist about the idea, too.
01:47:26.000About the idea of taking psychedelics in general.
01:47:29.000Like, I have a product I can give you that will give you spiritual enlightenment.
01:47:32.000Like, it is a product, you will take it, and then you will come out... They're already tourist to reality to begin with, so it's not much of a stretch at all.
01:47:40.000Brandon Lesko says, we're from the 4D government and we're here to help.
01:47:48.000Bobcat says, as a Timcast member, I would like to thank Tim, the science pool, for giving failed cartoonists like Seamus a job in these trying times.
01:47:55.000Oh my god, sponsored by Whole Foods Lucky Charms with DMT. Bobcat says as a Timcast member
01:48:02.000I would like to thank Tim the science pool for giving failed cartoonists like Seamus a job in these trying times
01:48:07.000First of all, Tim Cape to be begging Seamus, they're gonna turn the lights out.
01:48:52.000If that was true, they would still be on it because Judaism really has kept a straight line in many ways from those times, especially the people at the top, the very religious ones.
01:49:49.000I just don't need him to be like a jerk about it.
01:49:52.000So we had him here, and he talked about how COVID and the emergency is the perfect time to have government come in and make all these changes, because when else would you do it?
01:53:20.000It's where you just use your imagination as you're going to sleep and craft the dream as you enter the sleep state.
01:53:26.000So these are things that I'd be interested to see studies on DMT experience while you're already sleeping to have it like an injection in someone.
01:54:36.000Yeah, well, so I pulled, I just searched Book of Hebrews and Shadow and I found two verses so far, neither of which seem to say that the world is a shadow, so I'm still looking.
01:55:03.000Yes, someone made that joke about how is it that you live in a country where all the food is based on potatoes and you can't figure out vodka.
01:55:11.000I forgot who that was, it was someone.
01:56:09.000I was going to say, I found a verse in Hebrews 8, 4 and 5.
01:56:13.000It says, For if he were on earth, he would not be a priest at all, seeing there are priests who offer the gifts according to the Torah, who serve a copy and a shadow of the heavenly things, even as Moses was warned by God when he was about to make the tabernacle.
01:56:26.000For he said, See, you shall make everything according to the pattern that was shown you on the mountain.
01:56:30.000So I don't see that as being a direct one-to-one.
01:56:56.000I was very critical of him in the past because he came out hard against Trump at a time when I felt that Trump was being unfairly maligned in the press.
01:57:50.000I mean, she's for hardcore welfare state socialized, you know, you know, but she believes in the truth Yeah, that means she's right wing and she doesn't like war G says Ezekiel 1 1 4 8 could this be Ian's machine elves probably not but it will blow Ian's mind 1-1-4-8.
01:58:28.000There's a verse about the sons of God or something like that.
01:58:32.000It's not clear exactly what's being referenced.
01:58:37.000There's one word and so people that describe it and it's mysterious and so because it's mysterious people have just extrapolated so many explanations for it over the years.
01:59:10.000There were different accounts that were either determined to be unreliable for whatever reason, or not holy scripture.
01:59:17.000Or doesn't add up to the rest of the stuff.
01:59:18.000What's interesting is that I think there's verses in the Bible that refer to books that have been deemed apocryphal, so that was kind of an issue for them.
02:02:31.000Maybe I should take some DMT and watch Star Trek.
02:02:33.000If you think you're going to watch Star Trek and get a Star Wars-like experience with people force-pushing and laser-sorting, you're wrong.
02:02:39.000What Star Trek is, is a captain and a commander with naval traditions saying, terrorists have engaged this planet, how do we deal with it?
02:02:46.000Data the android is like, I don't understand why you're so resistant to terrorism, why it's considered wrong when it's been so effective throughout history, such as in these particular moments.
02:02:55.000And they're like, how do we deal with this problem?
02:03:45.000But Star Wars is like, I'm gonna defeat the evil Dooku, and Star Trek is like... It got bad.
02:03:50.000The first three, after that I gave up.
02:03:51.000Bro, in Deep Space Nine, there's like, a war's breaking out, they're trying to convince another faction to join them, so they stage a false flag attack on a senator from Romulan Empire to trick them into joining the war on their side.
02:04:10.000I feel like you could take a lot of the sci-fi backdrop out of it and you're just watching the exploration of ideas around political concepts.
02:04:16.000Then why they have a guy with a wrinkle on his head and call him an alien?
02:04:37.000But you see, you get lost in the sci-fi instead of exploring the political... I'm very skeptical that a syndicated show is going to treat these issues in a way that I would find interesting.
02:04:50.000When the Admiral tells Picard, you are jeopardizing your command and career because he's refusing to give someone's child to the state, and then he says, there comes a time when men of good conscience will defy orders given.
02:05:03.000To hand over, to force a man to hand his child over to the state, not while I'm captain.
02:07:48.000What they wrote was, the Klingons are an honor culture.
02:07:53.000They're very much, you have to have honor and be a warrior.
02:07:55.000So there's another race called the Romulans.
02:07:57.000It's based on like Roman style, and they're passion-driven.
02:08:02.000So, uh, one day, or stardate or whatever, the Romulans are attacking a Klingon civilian colonial outpost, and they send off a distress signal.
02:08:10.000The, uh, earlier version of the Enterprise responds to their enemy, the Klingons' distress signal, to try and save the women and the children, and end up dying in an effort to save people from this Romulan attack.
02:08:22.000And the Klingons see that as an honorable, you know, as honor, and they see the Romulans as a dishonorable, and that creates the alliance between the Klingon Empire.
02:08:29.000It's very noble of you to refer to Klingons as people.