Elon Musk has a deal in place with a deal to buy the entire company, and Ron Basilian joins the show to talk about the ramifications and what it means for the future of the company. We also talk about Trump being fined $10,000 a day in a civil court for his comments on Alex Jones and the Russia investigation.
00:00:37.000Elon Musk has said that he wants free speech.
00:00:39.000We'll see where his line is in free speech because it's going to be an interesting discussion.
00:00:44.000I don't even know that Elon Musk will be able to tolerate some of the things that are free speech when it comes to what's going on with Twitter.
00:00:50.000So we will talk about that, mostly that.
00:01:06.000So all of this is mostly floating around what's happening with Elon Musk, and we've really got to talk about the ramifications here, the deal itself.
00:01:12.000Twitter employees are reacting, they are imploding, they are freaking out.
00:01:16.000Blue check marks are saying the same thing conservatives said three years ago, and without a shred of irony or humility, this should be a lot of fun.
00:01:25.000Joining us today to talk about all of this is Ron Basilian.
00:02:59.000It's so funny to me that 1776 now means some form of rebellion, although I guess initially it did against the British, so I guess that's a good thing.
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00:06:40.000That being said, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and ladies and gentlemen, Here we are, from TimCast.com, Elon Musk successfully buys Twitter.
00:06:51.000Twitter's board reached a deal in the billion dollar bid to sell to Tesla's CEO and take the company private.
00:06:59.000Do you know what happens on Thursday, guys?
00:08:13.000But I think Elon Musk, he cornered them masterfully.
00:08:17.000Their main source of their earnings, as far as I can tell, is ad revenue.
00:08:21.000It's a very risky proposition for a company to roll that die, because if the advertisers get disenfranchised or disgruntled, they'll pull their money, which means that Twitter's basically an advertising firm.
00:08:53.000Do you think they would try to make the argument that taking money from those groups would limit their ability to make a profit in the future because they could damage their reputation?
00:09:01.000I don't think that's going to work in court.
00:09:09.000They made the site boring because the board of directors represents other companies which feels like Twitter is worth more to them dead than alive.
00:09:17.000And so what you've got is a Twitter that's dead under their reign.
00:09:21.000Elon's like, this company is worth a lot to me alive.
00:09:25.000It's worth a lot to me if I can bring back the excitement of viral content that comes from Twitter when it was a free marketplace of ideas.
00:09:35.000And my only regret about all of this is that I don't get to take that ride with Elon Musk anymore because shareholders were all going to get bought out and he's taking it private.
00:09:47.000Yes, full disclosure, I have 22 shares through my brokerage app.
00:09:51.000When Elon Musk announced he bought it, I was like, all right, I'll put it in my account.
00:09:54.000I had a thousand bucks and I clicked buy and I think I'll end up making like a hundred bucks.
00:10:41.000And I was kind of like, do I need to sue over this?
00:10:43.000Cause I got to tell you, man, that one, like when they announced that they were banning political ads, I'm like, okay, there's a potential, there's a potential argument here.
00:10:51.000They could say in order to maintain the health of the platform.
00:10:54.000And I don't mean their kind of health.
00:10:55.000I mean like people using the platform.
00:10:57.000We don't want to be dominated by just big spatterings of political ads.
00:11:02.000The money would actually cause more damage.
00:11:45.000I feel like this, uh, there's still like a, it's a 12 year old business model.
00:11:49.000They're still running off of advertising, which is like very 2010.
00:11:51.000They're, they have an opportunity to spin up a utility token, um, to, to streamline effectivity on the website where you could spend one Twitter token to get a thousand views on Twitter.
00:12:25.000I'm not but who knows I think Elon Musk is gonna be very imaginative about offering premium features that I would actually want I think a big issue for conservatives or just people who are not, you know speaking the company line on Twitter is like I Why would I bother spending any money when it's obvious that this site does what they can to throttle what I say on here?
00:12:47.000And I think it's a common perception of Twitter.
00:12:50.000And you know, I think if nothing else, Elon Musk is going to at least make it transparent and have some consistent policies and say, you know, you're getting throttled because of this algorithm or you got banned because of this policy and be like, okay, that's fair.
00:13:06.000You know, and maybe even provide ways to remedy that so people can get reinstated.
00:13:10.000But, you know, it's like we've seen so many people who acted in good faith and had good arguments and were like really good viral accounts that got banned because some passive-aggressive nitwit behind the scenes just decided, I don't like this guy, I'm banning them.
00:14:17.000You know, then you have all the people that were posting like interesting vaccine facts, you know, and that just went against the company line.
00:14:24.000They did their research and everything.
00:14:26.000And it was like, you're banned because we believe the vaccine is safe for most people.
00:14:31.000Even the disclaimer was like, Safe for most people.
00:14:49.000We can't live in a world where big tech is like, here's the approved doctors and their opinions.
00:14:53.000Now, I can understand the idea of consensus in that there are a lot of people, and the majority of research looks in this direction, But it's just an insane way to live where we say we will actually ban dissenting opinion.
00:15:09.000So my point ultimately here, when it comes to Trump, when it comes to Alex Jones, when it comes to Milo Yiannopoulos, when it comes to Laura Loomer, these people did nothing illegal.
00:15:20.000They were banned because they did things that Twitter did not like.
00:15:24.000If Elon is to restore free speech, all of these people get reinstated.
00:15:30.000I don't think that having one authoritarian give the company to another authoritarian to make the decision necessarily means free speech.
00:15:35.000Because if we're relying on Elon's good faith to unban people, and then he still retains the right to ban anybody at any time, if he sells the company or something happens to him, someone else takes over.
00:16:05.000Yeah, I was talking about the torture of Joe Biggs in federal prison and you get people saying, he deserves to be tortured because he's an insurrectionist.
00:17:01.000government wants to find a thousand people that are going to toe the line and give them all five bucks a month to do it, those people aren't more valid than me who doesn't feel like paying the money.
00:17:10.000He says everybody human is going to have the chance to get verified.
00:17:13.000But it's the humans that are getting paid by like a nefarious actor to be there that I wonder like how is that going to make them seem more valued because they spent five bucks?
00:17:23.000You can have one human manning like a hundred different bot accounts and that's what's happening.
00:17:28.000My joke is like there's either a DNC or Pentagon office somewhere where somebody is running all this.
00:17:33.000But then you're talking about having them verify their actual personality with like a social security number or an address, which is extremely dangerous to centralize that data.
00:17:43.000If you centralize that data on some database, people from all around the world can seize it and sell it and find out where you live and what your credit card information is.
00:17:51.000But that argument, you're arguing that, I mean, every single website does that.
00:17:55.000I've been looking into what's called decentralized identity.
00:17:58.000There's ways for you to have an identity online that isn't necessarily part of the identities.
00:18:02.000But let's keep the context to Twitter, because what you're saying is just some idea of something that might happen.
00:18:06.000But Elon is doing nothing different from literally any other website.
00:18:09.000If you trade crypto, you've got to verify your identity to trade crypto.
00:18:14.000I worry about some of those websites, frankly.
00:18:16.000That's because there's a financial incentive.
00:18:18.000Like with Mines, too, you can spend money with, like, Mines Plus so that you're able to send the Mines tokens off the network onto your own personal wallet.
00:18:26.000So there's a financial value to spending money per month.
00:18:29.000But if it's just to show everyone that you're real... I don't think you have to go... I don't understand what your argument against Elon Musk is, though.
00:18:34.000It sounds like you're saying the internet itself has a problem.
00:19:51.000Some guy's running because he bought 10 phones to do it or a company or some like some, what was that?
00:19:56.000What was that Democrat company that did sock puppets?
00:19:59.000I'm not going to, we'll avoid naming them for, for legality reasons, but you've got political firms that will hire one guy to run 50 accounts and pretend to be 50 people to try and sway public opinion, to harass you, get rid of all of that.
00:20:14.000And you can tell who the bots are because they're all coming from the same IP address.
00:20:18.000This is what I said, like, let's look at what the IP address of some of these bots are.
00:20:22.000I mean, we don't have to make it fully transparent, but, you know, Elon and the engineers at Twitter can take a look at that.
00:20:30.000It shouldn't be that hard to notice who the bots are that way.
00:20:32.000There's two, like, I guess, ethos of Running social media, there's real identity, real ID where they can like track you down to the to the way you poop in the day.
00:20:42.000And then there's anonymous ID where they have no idea who you are.
00:20:59.000Yeah, I was going to say, isn't it possible to not be verified?
00:21:03.000If I'm not verified, you're going to set yours so that you can only get responses from people that are.
00:21:07.000There's going to be people that aren't verified that don't want to play that game or spend that money.
00:21:10.000And then there's going to be like nobodies that are getting the government agencies paying their $5 a month that are going to seem like valid.
00:21:18.000You find very quickly, if you want to have an opinion, you got to step up and stand up for yourself.
00:21:24.000If I'm out in public and I see a bunch of people wearing masks all yelling things, I will hold their opinion to less value than someone standing up with identity revealed.
00:21:35.000I understand the value of anonymity for that reason, depending on the things people are talking about.
00:21:54.000I've been talking about this since 2006, so I'm fully on board with getting behind your own words, but there are times and places where that's very dangerous, and I don't think those people should be shut out of the conversation.
00:22:04.000But also wait a couple years on the video front, man.
00:22:07.000That stuff's getting easier and easier to fake.
00:22:10.000I agree, Ian, but what you're saying is it's preference.
00:22:13.000Now, if somebody wants to distribute an anonymous pamphlet or something, you can still do it.
00:22:19.000The people who were sharing the Founding Fathers ideas were doing it as themselves, but the ideas behind it were under pen names or pseudonyms.
00:22:26.000So no one knew who was actually writing it, but people were sharing it.
00:22:29.000They weren't posting it as, like, anime characters?
00:22:31.000I mean, look, I interact with plenty of anonymous accounts, you know, but they act in good faith, they make good arguments, you know, and so I listen to them.
00:22:40.000And that's been the interesting thing about Twitter is there is a sort of natural prestige system where people who make interesting insights, honest statements, you know, that are valuable, their engagement goes up, their followers go up, and they become You value their opinion more than some random who comes in and calls you a poopy.
00:24:52.000No, I think Elon Musk will keep a lot the same.
00:24:56.000I think the first thing that's going to happen is he'll have to go in and learn how the machine works.
00:25:01.000Then he'll probably throw up into a couple paper bags, realizing what's going on behind the scenes, both because people post horrifying things and both because the censorship and manipulation is worse than anyone realized.
00:25:12.000And then he'll try to get a handle on it.
00:25:13.000I mean, this is part of what's so golden about this entire thing.
00:25:16.000You have all these Twitter employees absolutely losing their minds, just behaving like unhinged maniacs, as if we're supposed to see that and go, Oh man, I'm sorry that they don't have free reign anymore.
00:25:25.000Yeah, I don't really want scared and sad people running my Twitter accounts.
00:26:17.000That was a big part of this Twitter thread, too, that Tim had pulled up earlier, as they were saying most of Twitter employees work from home now.
00:26:22.000They're wondering if that's going to change.
00:26:24.000I think that he's going to slash the employees.
00:27:30.000It is free speech to show images of dead babies because you want people to know about the horrors of what's going on with abortion, say, right, Seamus?
00:27:51.000To be fair, I think what Eon Muskland means- I saw Lizzo's ass in a thong for like Like how many times before I finally realized I did not want to see that?
00:28:02.000Yeah, no, it's an interesting question.
00:28:04.000I think this is a really complicated problem that not a lot of people consider, which is that even with these conservative alternatives that they're trying to launch, if any of them ever happen to catch on, or even with this, what Musk is trying to do, implementing a more neutral model with respect to speech, at some point, you're right, it could affect profitability.
00:28:41.000Without looking at this through any ideological framework, Tim, you were sort of mentioning earlier that restricting certain advertisers from being able to pay Twitter to have their ads placed there could be failing to fulfill their fiduciary responsibility.
00:28:54.000Do you think there's an argument to be made that the shareholders allowing unfettered free speech could also be failing to uphold their fiduciary responsibility because it could make the company less profitable?
00:29:04.000I would argue... Well, I actually addressed that.
00:29:07.000I said, when it comes to politics, the board might actually argue that taking on certain advertisers would hurt us, which is why they justify it.
00:29:14.000But climate change, there's no justification for that.
00:30:25.000With a B. I'm sorry, Bezos said something along the lines of, does China now have a stake in the public square in response to Elon Musk purchasing Twitter?
00:30:36.000I want to go back to the free speech point I was making before.
00:31:39.000And then how much can they withstand a barrage from Silicon Valley?
00:31:44.000He may be the world's richest man, but the combined wealth and power of the entirety of Silicon Valley and venture capital surrounding it, I don't think he can beat that.
00:32:13.000Does Elon taking over Twitter embolden a Mark Zuckerberg to allow Facebook to become a bit more free and transparent?
00:32:22.000Because he's getting the same pressures that Elon Musk is and it's killing Facebook.
00:32:26.000What did their stock drop like one-third in one night?
00:32:29.000They can use this as an excuse and say, in order for us to compete now, we've got a private company worth $50 billion, and it's one of the biggest social media platforms in the world.
00:32:41.000Their allowing of free speech is making people want to leave our platform.
00:33:13.000You have political figures in this country who are openly advocating against the First Amendment and using their political muscle to make these private companies do their bidding.
00:33:24.000When we talk about free speech, we got to define it firstly.
00:33:26.000It's the American, the United States of America's version of it is enshrined in the Constitution, that kind of free speech, where you can't say certain things in that kind of free speech.
00:33:34.000So that isn't translating to the internet, doesn't translate to the internet.
00:33:38.000You can't They're all authoritarian networks that are owned by someone that can ban anything at any time.
00:33:55.000And doxxing, because we all agree, okay, doxxing crosses the line.
00:33:59.000And even Andrew Torba of Gab said that.
00:34:01.000Like you said, showing pictures of, like, gruesome stuff, that's free speech, but you don't, you know, there's times and places where... No, that should be allowed.
00:34:07.000Well, it's up to the authoritarian owner of the company whether or not it should be allowed.
00:34:31.000There's also, free speech is also property rights.
00:34:33.000So if someone comes into your business and they start telling you something you don't want to hear, you can kick them out of the building and the government can't say, no, you have to let them sit there.
00:35:57.000Wendy's is, because they want you to come into their building.
00:36:01.000But that means they have to, under, I believe it's the 1964 Civil Rights Act, they cannot deny.
00:36:06.000So they can put up signs all day and night saying, we reserve the right to refuse service to anybody.
00:36:12.000You get into muddy territory, because of course you can kick someone out for screaming.
00:36:16.000But if they're screaming things about a protected class, their argument in court will now go up against yours.
00:36:21.000Are you saying that if a homeless person goes into a Wendy's and just goes to sleep in one of the booths that they can't kick the person out?
00:36:26.000No, you can kick the person out, but if you kick a person out just because they're a protected class and they can prove that in court, then they got a case against you.
00:37:31.000It's because, I forgot, it was explained to me by a lawyer, it may have been Will Chamberlain, I'm not sure, but someone explained that the expression of opinion is not, you know, the same thing as denying someone service because of who they are.
00:37:47.000So like, if you say, I will not provide you service, you have to leave because of this thing about you.
00:37:52.000And I just said, that's ridiculous because they could just argue that's why they got banned.
00:37:56.000And basically the broad protections of Section 230 make it impossible to win on that front.
00:38:00.000Now, if you want to talk about, is this company a public accommodation?
00:38:14.000And they say, like, well, what this person said is very offensive.
00:38:17.000But then, like I said, in the past two years, you've had people make very reasoned, very cogent arguments that are not at all offensive, but because they go against, like, the financial interests of BlackRock, You know, they get banned.
00:39:21.000Twitter seems to think that they wanted to craft this utopian world where they would decide what things were toxic and what things weren't.
00:39:29.000We'll see if Elon Musk will tolerate that because either he says free speech or he decides from his own personal morals, some things are okay and some things aren't.
00:39:40.000I'm looking up this federal accommodations, public accommodations things.
00:39:43.000You can't discriminate on basis of race, color, religion, or national origin, or disabilities.
00:40:51.000You can give different networks the ability to choose to have free speech on them if they want, but you can't make someone give you free speech.
00:41:08.000So we talked about this with Occupy Wall Street.
00:41:11.000It's what's called a privately owned public space.
00:41:14.000And the courts ruled that even though it's privately owned, because it's a park open to the public, this is Zuccotti, they had to allow protest.
00:41:22.000So I argued Twitter should be the same way, a privately owned public space.
00:41:28.000You can put up whatever billboards you want, but if it is a speech business open to the public, you should not be able to bar people for protests.
00:41:37.000It's a complicated question, but there was actually a Supreme Court decision, Marsh v. Alabama, in the 1940s, and they basically determined that In a company town, they were not able to prohibit a woman from passing out religious literature because it was protected by the First Amendment, even though it was their private property.
00:41:54.000I think it has something to do with taking up a certain amount of the public square that you are now required to uphold the law of the land.
00:42:03.000And in the United States, it is the First Amendment.
00:42:05.000So she came into my house and started passing out religious stuff.
00:42:08.000I can't say, you can't do that, but I can say, get out of my house.
00:42:11.000Yeah, so, well, my understanding, and again, I'm not a legal expert, I'm not an expert on this case by any means, I've heard a bit about it, but my understanding is basically that if you own a large enough or you occupy a large enough percentage of a public square as a private business, there are certain First Amendment responsibilities that you have.
00:42:28.000We ignore those when I was doing fundraising.
00:42:30.000state of California where malls are technically supposed to allow people to
00:42:34.000leaflet and do political activity, but then they sort of go back and say, no,
00:42:39.000we have the right to regulate in the interest of keeping the mood of our mall.
00:42:43.000So like for example, you go to some malls are like, okay, you can go set up a table over there, but you have to like,
00:42:49.000you know, file an application and give a deposit and all that.
00:42:54.000We ignore those. When I, when I was doing fundraising, they would tell you,
00:42:57.000and this happened all the time, go to a shopping center.
00:43:00.000You're allowed to work for causes and fundraise and protest.
00:43:09.000And if the police show up, the police will defend you.
00:43:11.000And sure enough, every time the police came up, apologized to me and just said, ignore them.
00:43:16.000You're allowed to, like, you're outside.
00:43:18.000You're in a parking lot outside waving to people, as long as you're not being, you're not obstructing anybody, as long as you're not screaming at anybody, you're just waving and handing out flyers and asking people to talk, totally fine.
00:43:31.000I think part of why I'm concerned with what you were saying about treating Twitter as part of the commons and just letting it fly is how will you moderate that?
00:43:40.000Who's in charge then of moderating it?
00:43:42.000Like if it's a private company and you're like, you can't moderate it the way you want.
00:44:31.000I just want to read one sentence from this decision that I pulled up here.
00:44:34.000Justice Hugo L. Black noted that, and quote here, the more an owner, for his advantage, opens up his property for use by the public in general, the more do his rights become circumscribed by the statutory and constitutional rights of those who use it.
00:44:49.000So, making a private company Act as if it's the United States government is challenging.
00:44:58.000I agree that these things are in the commons.
00:45:48.000I hope Elon buys Twitter because he'll make improvements to it, and he's a good man, but I am going to be staying on Truth.
00:45:54.000We're taking in millions of people, and what we're finding is that the response on Truth is much better than being on Twitter.
00:46:00.000That's just fundamentally not true, and anyone of influence knows it.
00:46:05.000All of these conservatives are pointing out that the left won't leave the platform to Twitter is the place you gotta be because of platform monopoly.
00:46:15.000What I was going to say here is that I think it's very noble and I would argue in many ways a good thing when conservatives try to start their own platforms in this sphere, but the problem is Twitter's utility is the fact that basically everybody's on it and your perspective can be heard by people who didn't just come to hear a right-wing perspective, so you actually have the possibility of changing people's minds about things.
00:46:40.000And so if Elon Musk is able to make Twitter, or I should say Eon Muskland is able to make, Mush, is able to make Twitter a more fair and open platform for different political views, that would be much better for us as a movement than to all segregate ourselves to this conservative website that other people aren't seeing.
00:46:59.000I'd like to pull up this tweet from Robert Reich.
00:47:35.000You've lost any good faith response from me in this effort because you and your ilk have spent the entirety of the past six years burning everything to the ground, spitting in the face of people who had political disagreements with you, and now that you're poised to lose, you think you can come back and say, oh, this platform monopoly is a big problem.
00:47:54.000Well, that's what I was saying, what, seven years ago.
00:47:57.000And now that you've come crawling back, I say this.
00:48:00.000You don't get to wage war, and then once you start losing or fear losing, come and beg for a ceasefire.
00:48:08.000Elon Musk is going to be doing exactly what, well, we're hoping that Elon Musk will do what we've been hoping someone would do with Twitter, and that is bring free speech.
00:48:20.000You get to stay and say all of your dumb things to everybody and we are not calling for you to be banned.
00:48:26.000We just want the rules to be transparent.
00:48:28.000We want people who are suspended for BS fake reasons like carpe donctum to be reinstated and you can go cry about platform monopolies somewhere else because we've all been taking issue with that for some time.
00:48:42.000Your complaints are duly noted and duly ignored.
00:48:45.000Does that article show his tweet from like three years ago where he said it's a private company and could do it at once?
00:48:52.000Yeah, he said... Literally, how it started, where it's going... His tweet that everyone's highlighting, and they're pointing it out as hypocritical, he said that the people complaining about the First Amendment on Twitter failed to realize it's a private company and they can do what they want.
00:49:07.000The First Amendment is pertaining to government restriction.
00:49:10.000However, most people aren't saying the First Amendment.
00:49:14.000If he wants to highlight truly ignorant people who are incorrectly saying the First Amendment, by all means, he can go and do that.
00:49:19.000Most people who believe in free speech are talking about the principle of free speech, one in which the First Amendment protects but exists outside of the Constitution.
00:49:28.000The principle of free speech is that we respect that other people will say things we don't like in the public discourse.
00:49:48.000The lack of self-awareness is astounding.
00:49:51.000I mean, look, I never exactly pictured him as the kind of person who was really in touch with what people who disagreed with him were saying or thinking, but you have to have literally not heard a single thing a conservative has said for the past five years to make this point and think you're saying anything.
00:50:26.000All I'm saying is Robert Reich should be more like me and know enough about his opponent's position to make fun of them in short form cartoons.
00:50:54.000I think they have to push a certain company line and it doesn't matter how they lie or get stuff wrong to achieve it.
00:51:02.000There's just a company line you've got to put out and you've got to stick with it.
00:51:06.000And if you stray from that company line, you no longer have a job.
00:51:11.000Well, the question is, does he believe this?
00:51:14.000Or is he just, as you're saying, trying to toe the company line?
00:51:17.000Does he think it would be an effective strategy?
00:51:18.000Because my point is, whether he believes it or not, to think that it's an effective strategy to out yourself as a hypocrite so blatantly, to me is bizarre.
00:51:37.000There are people right now that are complaining because Al Franken basically was forced to resign in disgrace over that photo where he was, you know, grabbing that woman's chest.
00:51:46.000And they're complaining about this Madison Cawthorn photo where he's got women's lingerie on at a drinking on a cruise at a party.
00:51:52.000And I can't remember who tweeted it, but they were like, Al Franken was forced to resign over something much less salacious than this.
00:52:41.000And that's why we bought a billboard in Times Square with special thanks to Daily Wire for helping make it happen.
00:52:46.000That says Taylor Lorenz doxed libs of TikTok because you don't get to go on TV and just lie without getting some pushback.
00:52:51.000So that's us pushing back, even if it's a small gesture.
00:52:54.000Yeah, I like your war analogy, because it's kind of like being the aggressor and attacking someone else, and as soon as they fight back, you're like, all we are saying is give peace a chance.
00:53:33.000They believe there is no truth but power.
00:53:36.000Antifa uses violence against people because they believe in using violence to gain power.
00:53:41.000When that MMA guy tried saving that dude and defended himself, and they realized he had more power physically than they did, they retreated.
00:53:58.000No, so the left, they're basically a metronome, and they very quickly go back and forth between, I'm very tough, be scared of me, and oh, I'm a poor, sweet, innocent little victim, someone come protect me.
00:54:09.000Sounds like bipolar, someone that's bipolar.
00:54:12.000Sounds like someone who's lying to gain power.
00:54:13.000It sounds like, yeah, somebody, whatever gets them more power, they do it.
00:54:17.000This Reich guy, Robert Reich, I remember him being kind of vocal about Hillary's emails when that Podesta emails dropped, you know, 13,000 emails that they ended up trying to hide from the public, 30,000.
00:54:27.000And he was a big proponent of Bernie Sanders at the time and was really involved with like the progressive movement as it seemed like it might actually function, kind of what Trump picked up the reins of.
00:54:37.000And then he went full TDS Trump derangement syndrome and this hate of Donald Trump, which is like, it was just so party politics, like cult thought.
00:54:46.000So I thought Reich was really smart until that.
00:54:50.000He's not wrong that social media monopoly is dangerous.
00:54:53.000Reich wants big government and big business, whereas Trump felt like, look, just give people a chance at a decent wage and you don't need either.
00:55:03.000And that's where Rice, basically if you don't have big government and big business, Rice is out of a job.
00:55:11.000I think what you'll see often is, I'd be interested to see what happens when the right, if the right ever gets institutional power, will they become as hypocritical or will they just defend their side because now they have the power and the ability to wield it?
00:55:25.000I kind of lean towards no, because at least over the past eight or so years, the Republicans have just sat on their hands and said, slow down there, Democrats, and done nothing.
00:55:35.000I would say if we saw genuine conservatives, real pro-family leaders take power, there would be corruption because that's just always going to exist in any human institution.
00:55:44.000But I do believe it would be much more structured and effective and honest than anything we're seeing from a left-wing authority structure because, as I've said before, leftism is just a synonym for social decay and they don't have any real principles.
00:55:57.000So people on the right have genuine values that they try to hold to and that they're accountable to.
00:57:41.000How do you, you know, you've got, even the Daily Wire is doing a really, really great job fighting back.
00:57:47.000They're like, we're gonna make a children's show.
00:57:50.000And they are still very much approaching this in a traditional way with new technologies.
00:57:55.000And the stuff we're working on is trying to be very different, much more like a skunk work or something.
00:58:01.000Chicken City is a wild and weird idea with chicken parties, but it's very much working in terms of creating a new kind of family content.
00:58:08.000Well, part of why I would argue that it, I mean, I imagine Chicken City is more profitable than CNN Plus because you have, pun intended, recouped your costs.
00:58:17.000CNN Plus was, how much did you say they invested?
00:59:14.000It's something I learned about science.
00:59:16.000It's like the old generation never gets a clue.
00:59:19.000They just die away and the new generation So what's happening is we've seen that with like CBS, ABC, that's legacy, legacy, old golden age.
00:59:27.000Now we've got this modern legacy, which is like Facebook, YouTube, sorry guys, Twitter, decentralized services.
00:59:34.000That's going the way of the Dodo as well.
00:59:36.000It's moving towards federalization, federation, and decentralization.
00:59:39.000So networks that aren't already focused on that are also going to start falling away.
00:59:44.000No, but it's even with all the political pressure.
00:59:47.000For example, like Rikita Media, when they did the Kyle Rittenhouse case, they like eclipsed any of the big three networks in their coverage.
00:59:55.000Because not only was it timely, they got the feed, but they had intelligent analysis of it.
01:00:01.000Whereas the legacy networks, they were caught with their pants down.
01:00:04.000Not only that, but I believe for the Johnny Depp Amber Heard trial right now, big news.
01:00:09.000Rikita Law, I think, is the number one superchatted channel in the country this week.
01:00:14.000With their coverage of the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard trial.
01:00:34.000I try not to pay attention to celebrities, but I did see a couple clips of him responding to questions while the lawyer was harassing him, and it was genuinely pretty funny.
01:00:44.000It's like some of the best thing on TV right now.
01:01:23.000That's my main issue with Twitter is like the people who are interesting, you just don't see them and you have no idea why and they don't have any idea why.
01:01:30.000I wonder how many people are going to go to prison.
01:01:32.000Maybe it's a stretch to assume, but I imagine The testimony that we heard before Congress was false.
01:01:41.000And Elon Musk is going to have documents showing shadow banning and all that stuff they claim they didn't do.
01:01:46.000The issue, however, is going to be that Jack Dorsey is going to be like, well, at the time, I frankly, I didn't know that it was going on and I was acting under the the advisement of our legal counsel.
01:01:58.000You know what they say, the buck stops with the legal counsel.
01:03:18.000Hacker News speculating on how Twitter will integrate with SpaceX for interplanetary communication.
01:03:23.000Someone wrote, this is from Generalizations, I'm surprised no one has mentioned that Twitter is probably the best social media platform for interplanetary communication, where low bandwidth and delayed transmission are fundamental bottlenecks, and both limitations are considered part of the appeal.
01:03:38.000In that case, I wonder if the monetization will ultimately be based on latency and message size.
01:03:43.000Pay more for your message to be sent from Mars, the next transmission, and pay more to send a larger message.
01:03:48.000Locally, I wonder if Twitter will be tied to Starlink in some fashion.
01:03:53.000Elon Musk apparently launched some shell companies, and there might be a single parent company for SpaceX, Tesla, and Twitter.
01:04:01.000He might actually want to make sure Twitter works because it's the only social media platform that would work via interplanetary communications.
01:04:10.000Facebook could theoretically work, but you'd be limited.
01:04:13.000This makes a really, really good point.
01:04:15.000The appeal of Twitter is character limitations, in which case it's optimized for sending messages back and forth.
01:04:22.000Can you send a software update to the Voyager craft to tweet?
01:04:26.000Yeah, I was about to say, I mean, look, if this gets hooked up to SETI somehow, or aliens end up seeing Twitter, we're in gigantic trouble.
01:04:34.000Like, this could really spell disaster for the human race.
01:04:37.000We sent out Voyager with that golden disc or whatever, with like, basic math and pictures of humans, and then it's like, it's floating out there, but what beats it is the transmission of, at the speed of light, of Twitter.
01:04:51.000And so then one day, right before the Voyager craft reaches the alien vessel, the wave of Twitter hits the ship, and then they see everything.
01:04:59.000I've never seen a thin person drink Diet Coke.
01:05:16.000Yeah, I mean, it's really easy to receive transmissions and convert them to tweets.
01:05:20.000One of the things that a friend of mine did was he had, you could, I forgot, you could use dial-up internet to tweet.
01:05:30.000And they did this really interesting way where they converted the text into Morse code.
01:05:34.000Morse code, you know, that was then traveled over the phone line to a voiced text, which converted the Morse code back into text and then tweeted it out.
01:05:45.000When you had no means of like... Morse code was the original Twitter, come on.
01:05:51.000People try to limit their character count and... I gotta say though, Twitter really did disprove the aphorism that brevity is the soul of wit because it's all short and it's all the dumbest thing you've ever read.
01:06:01.000Let's talk about- let's just jump to this story.
01:06:03.000Actually, let's do this story right here.
01:06:38.000Well, I gotta say, I'm actually happy about this because it will let me know that there are more offensive ways to say what I'm currently saying.
01:06:43.000Like, if I didn't even realize a phrase was something people consider to be upsetting, Google will now alert me to that, which I appreciate.
01:06:49.000That's why I can use it more in the document.
01:06:50.000Like, oh, I didn't realize that makes sense.
01:06:56.000This is, I mean, Elon Musk is what, one inch of pushback against a tidal wave of just insanity?
01:07:02.000Well, this is where Ian talking about federated systems being the future is it?
01:07:07.000Like, I can't imagine, like, you know, we talk about getting physical copies of media because anything that's on cloud services gets censored to death or just wiped from their servers.
01:07:17.000Like, you know, think of the movies and how much they've been censored from like 30 years ago.
01:07:23.000I have a Synology drive at home where I just keep any movie I want to keep that's been censored.
01:07:30.000Here's what I find fascinating in the culture war.
01:07:45.000And so we decided as a society. Hey this thing we don't do anymore
01:07:49.000It's stupid. Yeah, people don't like it. We're gonna avoid it now as for the comedians who mock the idea
01:07:55.000We don't do that anymore either because people get canceled, but that's the interesting point
01:07:59.000We're at a point now where it seems like something happened I think it was social media, where you used to have the left pulling all of society slightly leftward as the right just was being dragged behind.
01:08:14.000Something happened where that chain between the left and the right snapped and the left just immediately lunged a hundred feet forward and the right stopped moving and just went, wait, what?
01:08:24.000Now we're seeing the left go absolutely insane.
01:08:26.000And they're determining that things that are still culturally irrelevant
01:10:03.000Yeah, I mean, they're falling apart, but then on the flip side, they're using all sorts of conservative lingo, like, triggered, and what is it, like, patriot-takes.
01:10:10.000They're using the word patriot to claim that they're the patriots.
01:10:14.000No, patriot-takes is mocking patriots.
01:10:24.000Well, but I think what you are correct about is that establishment Democrat types have sort of co-opted the language of patriotism over the past couple years.
01:10:33.000I mean, they talk about insurrection and that kind of patriotism and protecting our Constitution, and that's why we need to go after J6.
01:10:41.000Well, the purpose of calling it an insurrection was to try to disqualify people like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Trump.
01:10:47.000Because the 14th Amendment specifically says if they waged insurrection against the United States, so they needed the narrative first so that people would believe it.
01:10:55.000Then they could file the lawsuits and try and get it.
01:11:05.000And so the judge in this case, he looks quite, the Marjorie Taylor Greene thing where they're trying to disqualify her, the judge looks absolutely, you know, it's funny.
01:11:13.000If you get your news from the left, man, these people really warp reality.
01:11:16.000They're like, oh man, the judge is facepalming.
01:11:45.000And the lawyer's like, how is this relevant to whether or not on January 6th, in or around, she waged insurrection against the United States?
01:11:52.000And the judge is like, what's the point of that question?
01:12:01.000Yeah, I mean, the Articles of Confederacy was a pretty solid case for the southern states doing an insurrection.
01:12:10.000I think that's what the 14th Amendment was after, not because somebody tweeted that they didn't believe this election was legitimate or, you know.
01:13:44.000It's like it's about an alien invasion, dude.
01:13:47.000I mean, it is fascinating, though, that he was attacking Marjorie Taylor Greene under the pretext of the 4th of July, 1776, being bad for the United States.
01:14:06.000I get the feeling that it was the 2008, the financial crisis when Obama bailed out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
01:14:13.000It was basically when it sent everything into a death spiral in this country, fiscally, and now people are like, there's no truth but power because money's useless now.
01:14:20.000Well, also, I want to say, if you think America should deny its heritage as being a nation which was built upon resisting illegitimate power or violation of your rights, aren't you the revolutionary?
01:14:52.000You, the person who celebrates the people who literally founded the country.
01:14:58.000I think it's something the Tea Party really helped enlighten Americans is about how much Obama really politicized the state apparatus in this country and turned it into a Democrat institution.
01:15:15.000Truly one of the darkest presidents we've ever had, Barack Obama.
01:15:19.000And he's a guy who politicized institutions.
01:15:22.000We had federal agencies going after right-wing groups.
01:15:25.000You had the extrajudicial assassination of American citizens.
01:15:30.000You had the indefinite detention provisions of the NDAA.
01:15:34.000The lies on top of lies, all with a big smiling face.
01:15:52.000Yeah, the American population's response to the Obama presidency was the most disgusting letdown of my life.
01:15:59.000That's why I say, you know, he's one of the darkest, one of the darkest presidencies, one of the most disastrous, is because under this veil of Like hope and change.
01:16:13.000We got not only the same thing, but many things that were actually worse.
01:16:17.000So, yeah, George W. Bush was much darker.
01:16:21.000You know, the invasions was probably some of the darkest days that we've seen.
01:16:26.000And the horrifying things that came out of all that.
01:16:55.000had the decency to do after leaving the Oval Office was to go away.
01:16:59.000He went away, and he said, I'm gonna go paint my pictures and spend my life doing that.
01:17:04.000And we don't hear from him all that often, except for when the left, for whatever bizarre reason, wants to march him out and go, remember when we had good Republican leadership?
01:17:14.000Unlike these evil MAGA conservatives we have now, even though they hated him and he started new wars and was overall a terrible president.
01:17:21.000So but then there's the scene where like Obama was in a party with Biden and he looked like he's still the president and Biden is not even vice president.
01:17:28.000He's like the mascot or something like he's just walking around lost while Obama is shaking everybody's hand and well that that clip that that clip is he was looking for someone.
01:17:43.000You don't need to try to make Biden look nuts.
01:17:46.000So there's a clip of Joe Biden walking away from like Obama talking with people and he's looking around all confused because he was supposed to introduce someone to the group and he couldn't find him.
01:17:55.000And it was like 10 seconds of him being like, where'd this guy go?
01:17:57.000People grab it and they're like, oh, it's so sad.
01:18:01.000You just show him saying, Trina not a shot without pressure.
01:18:04.000You don't need to take a clip of him looking for someone, being confused as to where the person went, act like he's befuddled.
01:18:09.000I hear you on that, but on the other hand, given his behavior in the past, doesn't it make sense that upon seeing that clip, a person would assume this is cognitive of him looking for someone?
01:18:17.000The problem is when people on the right Pounce.
01:18:44.000Dude, can you imagine if you did that at the end of a Timcast episode?
01:18:47.000Just like turn and like shook no one's hand?
01:18:49.000People will be like, what did Tim Pool just do?
01:18:52.000Can we allow people who are experiencing that kind of decline to have the power of a podcaster against the President of the United States?
01:18:59.000The media will rush to the defense of Joe Biden when he does something ridiculous or stupid, and many on the right will rush to say Joe Biden did something ridiculous or stupid regardless of the context.
01:19:09.000Typically, though, you don't need to try very hard.
01:19:11.000That's why I'm like, dude, like Trump, you don't need to make me defend the guy.
01:19:14.000You can point out things you really want to critique him on and win arguments that way.
01:19:52.000It was because he was trying to then change the subject, I guess, to I was hiking the Himalayas.
01:19:58.000I was hiking the foothills of the Himalayas, that's right.
01:20:00.000Let's talk about what's going on over in Europe because of our poor leadership.
01:20:03.000Companies are overwhelmed with inquiries for nuclear bunkers in Switzerland and reporting shortage of materials following Ukraine invasion.
01:20:12.000Since the 1960s, every Swiss municipality had to build nuclear bunkers for residents.
01:20:16.000Residents are now contacting specialist companies to build or renovate shelters.
01:20:20.000The bunkers are being viewed in a new light since Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
01:20:25.000What Switzerland needs is 200-gallon propane tanks for the impending Russian oil embargo.
01:22:22.000When that occurred, and we learned that, there were respectable figures in American politics saying that that was an act of war by Russia against the United States of America.
01:22:33.000Well, the only answer is World War III.
01:22:48.000All these like accusations of war crimes and all of these other accusations, whatever, none of it's going to the UN because they know.
01:22:55.000I mean, they already know they tried to get a condemnation of Russia and the rest of the world is like, no, we know what you're up to.
01:23:03.000Like sticking a bunch of troops and artillery on the border of a country, of a sovereign country, and then acting shocked when they invade to destroy the border defenses?
01:23:12.000Yeah, I mean, that's what Putin said when he invaded, is he's like, look, you're creating an untenable security situation on my border.
01:23:19.000And technically, by international law, I believe that justifies going in.
01:23:24.000You can't have terrorists on somebody's border and expect them to take it.
01:23:29.000I mean, Israel and Saudi Arabia do it, and that makes for a very awkward situation.
01:23:35.000I think the main reason that the democratic establishment has been screaming Russia for so long is they know that Putin is like the one guy in Europe that won't fall in line.
01:23:44.000That they've got everybody bending the knee to the new plans for their economic bloc, except for Russia.
01:23:49.000Yeah, well, and when you can successfully convince a large portion of the American population that the presidency is under the control of the Russian government, any time the president doesn't try to step up aggressive acts with Russia, they can claim that it's just evidence that he's bought and sold by them.
01:24:08.000And remember when we opposed the Iraq war, we were called terrorist sympathizers.
01:25:04.000In which case, nuclear bunkers, World War III, everybody.
01:25:07.000That's the ballet, is what can the U.S.
01:25:10.000fund legally in Ukraine, and that's why it's like we can't get directly involved, but we can do lend-lease, and we can send military experts and advisors.
01:28:57.000And this is the one, like, really digging critique you can make of Trump, is he thought he could just renegotiate trade deals and not Disrupt the geopolitical order because trade deals are diplomatic deals and he saw it himself, right?
01:29:12.000All of a sudden China's broke and they can't pay for something So he had to give them some deal in order for them to have the money to pay off something else And now it's like their their economy's crumbling, you know, you had the default and everything.
01:29:26.000So what we're really seeing is the entire geopolitical order is starting to crumble and it needs to reset and Not the great reset, but it needs to reset.
01:29:37.000And it's something I called out earlier today.
01:29:39.000I think if we prevail, you're going to have a lot of billionaires bankrupt or in prison by 2030.
01:30:58.000If you make water acidic, It will bubble up the carbon dioxide and water as we know from soda water is a great dissolver of carbon dioxide.
01:31:10.000So what you do, and they're starting to do this, explore with naval ships so they can produce their own fuel,
01:31:18.000is they pump in seawater, they separate it into acid, they make part acidic, part alkaline seawater.
01:31:26.000The acidic seawater bubbles up the carbon dioxide, and then they can synthesize that carbon dioxide
01:32:10.000It's only a matter of scaling it to be cheap enough.
01:32:14.000They said you can do this on a naval aircraft carrier for about $3 a gallon.
01:32:20.000If you did it on the shore, you could probably get it cheaper because you don't have to make everything portable or whatever.
01:32:26.000But the idea is just in the naval situation, then you don't have to constantly go fuel up at port.
01:32:32.000You could be out your aircraft carrier indefinitely like a nuclear submarine or something.
01:32:37.000There's also a technology called microfragmentation that you can do with coral, where you take coral, you shatter it into a bunch of different pieces and you set them all near each other.
01:32:46.000And then they all start to grow together.
01:32:48.000To regrow coral reefs or to build new ones on other planets.
01:32:51.000The technology with iron fertilization to regrow the plankton in the oceans.
01:33:27.000So, uh, for those that are wondering what happened is we have, uh, we use, we use OBS and for some reason the main video feed just stopped working.
01:35:25.000OBS should not have bugged out like that, but sometimes these things happen, and it is what it is.
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01:36:15.000It may be It may be rejected, so we'll see, because there's rules about how you can do billboard buys.
01:36:23.000It can't be an advertisement if you're using other people's likenesses or something like that.
01:36:27.000But it basically just calls out the Washington Post for lying, and it's very simple.
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01:36:45.000Now, some people have asked, with the Robbie Starbuck thing, why don't we get substantially more involved?
01:36:51.000There are rules and laws around politics.
01:36:54.000I don't know how to engage with that, but the GOP booting Robbie Starbuck off the ballot, I think, is the most corrupt and dirty thing we've seen in a long time.
01:37:01.000There's been a lot of corruption in politics.
01:37:38.000He's one of those Californians who moved to Texas.
01:37:42.000America floats says Twitter might get based again, which would bring about dark MAGA Twitter.
01:37:47.000I want to see it So I saw some people saying no light MAGA Trump is the is bringing the light to save people and he's gonna illuminate or something like that Dark Maga's got its own problems.
01:37:58.000You know, I mean, it's like the issue of Marjorie Taylor Greene.
01:42:13.000What happened was she doxxed someone, published their private home address, lied about it on CNN, and the Washington Post offended her, and stupid people are turning the argument as, let's make fun of, they're turning the statement and the argument into making fun of someone about their age, which does nothing To convince regular people that the media has been pissing on us and telling us it's raining.
01:42:34.000You want to go have some stupid party where a bunch of frat guys bump their chest and make up lies about people?
01:43:37.000All right, let's read some more Super Chats.
01:43:39.000Eric Miller says, Tim, you talked about doing this before, but why don't you hire some protesters to protest the removing of Robbie Starbuck from the ballot in downtown Nashville?
01:43:48.000As much as that really pisses me off as well, there are legal issues with that.
01:43:52.000I suppose, as a person, I could just do it.
01:43:56.000But there are issues with hiring people.
01:43:58.000If you have a problem with what happened to Robbie Starbuck and you're in Tennessee, go join the local Republican group.
01:44:53.000Maybe they don't know too much, maybe it's esoteric, and then maybe one day they hear someone say something and they'll say, oh yeah, I saw that thing in Times Square that said they doxed this person.
01:45:06.000And also, I think it's really important for people to understand this.
01:45:08.000When they tell lies, oftentimes they don't even try to come up with an explanation for why their lie is true.
01:45:13.000They're not interested in convincing you.
01:45:15.000They just want to repeat it over and over again so that other people start thinking it's true and saying it.
01:45:19.000And so similarly, when we counter them with the truth, sometimes that's our best strategy.
01:45:23.000Explain it if they ask you, but you just have to let people know that you are bold enough to tell the truth so they feel comfortable repeating it as well.
01:45:29.000One thing that really frustrates me is when, you know, I'm talking to someone... Well, it's one thing when I'm talking to someone and they will make things up outright.
01:45:41.000It's really annoying, though, when I'm talking to, like, a leftist or something, and then they rebut with something stupid that has trended among libertarians or right-wing personalities or post-liberals that's not true.
01:45:53.000And I just wonder, like, why do they fall for this stuff?
01:46:18.000How about I just talk about how Trump had no new wars, had historic peace agreements in Europe and in the Middle East, and we had a booming economy, and I can leave the weird insulting of people out of this.
01:46:32.000Yep, it's lowbrow, and actually, I'd be willing to bet that political operatives who are aligned with the establishment, be it Republican or Democrat, know one of the most powerful ways to discredit a movement is to get them involved in drama.
01:46:47.000You get someone to start arguing about someone's age, or looks, or appearance, and they're no longer arguing about issues that actually matter to regular folks.
01:46:54.000I'm not arguing about her age, I'm telling people that she lied about her age on Twitter.
01:48:03.000So a lot of people don't seem to understand when I was talking about how a business can't kick certain people out.
01:48:10.000I'm not saying they should or shouldn't or anything like that.
01:48:12.000I'm saying quite literally what we see in the law is someone will file a lawsuit and claim they were kicked out for a certain reason or denied services for a certain reason and they often win.
01:48:22.000We talk about lawfare on this show, right?
01:48:24.000I mean, a lot of this is just lawfare tactics by activists, right?
01:48:28.000I mean, the two guys suing the baker, you know, for not baking the cake, they were funded by some powerful people.
01:48:38.000You know same thing with a homeless situation in LA is what I keep saying the people who are ostensibly homeless in LA they they're very well backed legally and financially by activist lawyers and they go and make sure the city does everything by the book or the city gets sued for like violating their rights.
01:49:00.000Which is that if you don't pass our, you know, upzoning laws, government housing laws, whatever, you're going to keep seeing people camped out in all your favorite parks and boulevards.
01:49:56.000A small spattering of activists on Twitter do not a customer make.
01:50:00.000So Twitter, I think, could potentially lose that one.
01:50:03.000But that goes back to this whole ESG thing where all these companies claim they need to follow ESG guidelines in order to stay in business.
01:50:11.000And the fact is, if they don't, they don't get funding from the banks.
01:50:31.000Like if a company like Twitter rejecting ads over climate change, I think is a clearly losing issue outright.
01:50:39.000Granted it's immaterial now that Elon bought it, but to be like, we're not going to take money from potential customers because we don't like their ads is telling the shareholders there's money.
01:50:49.000We could get it, but we personally have an issue.
01:50:57.000Now the question with pro-life climate change they banned, that would be interesting.
01:51:02.000The thing about pro-life stuff is they have an argument about offensive or shocking materials, and they can say, well, we would lose, people would get outraged if they saw offensive stuff in their feed.
01:51:12.000But there's still an argument of they could take this money and provide it in a certain way to only certain users that have opted in.
01:51:21.000They could, you know, anyway, to the point of climate change, climate change is not objectionable outside of politics.
01:51:28.000There's actually an interesting case study with tobacco companies cigarette packs where they wanted to show gruesome images of like lung cancer and stuff like that and the courts ruled that the tobacco companies were not required to put that kind of shocking imagery on their own products.
01:51:46.000Well, that was the state trying to pass a law saying they had to do it.
01:51:49.000They wanted to force their companies to show really gruesome things.
01:52:30.000Because it's not even like, you know, an issue of, you know, global warming is settled or whatever.
01:52:35.000But even just like you can't even debate the right way to go about it.
01:52:39.000Like you and I are sitting here discussing interesting new technologies and, you know, mocking Germany for putting solar panels in the subarctic latitude.
01:52:52.000Right, because if there's two doctors and they each have an advertisement but this one's a little bit better in your opinion, you choose that ad but not this ad, I don't think they should sue the people for it.
01:53:01.000Just because you like the other ad better.
01:53:04.000Companies have responsibility to their shareholders to make money.
01:53:07.000It makes sense if they say these ads would offend people and cost us users and hurt us in the long run.
01:54:48.000buying So we have this really great idea for a Chicken City commercial that we're doing for Tucker Carlson, and the general idea is we want to make it be like, what is it?
01:55:59.000It's like evil capitalist wants to take things everyone loves and knows is good to make money.
01:56:06.000And then, so we're gonna do a 30 second movie trailer, and part of it is gonna be like, if people give $5, they can feed the chickens, and once we get $100, we'll have a chicken party, and then we'll raise enough money to save Chicken City!
01:56:16.000Dude, I can't wait for them to make a derivative film from that concept about Elon Musk buying Twitter, like the evil capitalist, like he made this sweet, rare bird habitat!
01:59:39.000And if you fight them, if you disagree with them on any of their agenda, they'll come and smear you.
01:59:45.000People were like, because I said, if you fight this in the culture where you lose on it, that's how they get you to lose is to get you to fight them.
01:59:51.000But you create know what isn't creating a form of fighting.
01:59:55.000You might consider it a form of competition to create something better than what they have, but fighting them is different than creating something new.
02:00:02.000Right, no, you fight them by going around them.
02:00:40.000You brought that up before the show and in forms of moderation, relying on Elon to have to do that's going to make him frustrated and a lot of enemies.
02:00:45.000But if you create a jury system in the site where the site, the people using it can modify and moderate together as a cohesive decentralized unit, that's a good tactic.
02:01:04.000If you're accused of doing wrong, then a jury of your peers will review the evidence and determine whether or not they agree with the charges against you.
02:01:11.000Instead of having some nebulous organization behind the scenes deciding who or what is worthy of being banned, if someone breaks the rules, then people can be selected for jury duty.
02:01:22.000They can then opt in and it will be like, hey, you may see violent imagery, you may see things you may not like, this is a warning, you can say no.
02:01:30.000Some people might then choose, okay, show me what this person did.
02:01:33.000They'll say, here's what they said or posted.
02:02:21.000No, I think Twitter does make some kind of reasonable effort to moderate conversations for the better and have algorithms that rate whether people want to see your stuff or not.
02:02:31.000The problem is it just gets human override way too much based on, like, way too many passive-aggressive, you know, feelings about specific people.
02:02:41.000I think any algorithm or code to determine what people want or don't want is wrong and should be removed.
02:05:09.000I'll write a joint book with you called The Light and the Dark and it's just like toggle between our consciousnesses and like, it'll seem almost like psychotic.
02:05:16.000Are you familiar with, they call this in art school, it's an exercise called the exquisite corpse where you see like, so basically in art you see where the other person's lines were and try to draw based on that.
02:05:25.000But it's like you see the last sentence someone wrote in a long story and you try to pick it up from there and it never makes sense.