Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - December 15, 2022


Timcast IRL - Elon Musk Haters Come CRAWLING Back To Twitter In EPIC Fail Care w-Gene Hamilton


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 5 minutes

Words per Minute

201.16473

Word Count

25,216

Sentence Count

1,780

Misogynist Sentences

21

Hate Speech Sentences

31


Summary

On this week's episode of the show, we discuss Elon Musk's new ban on tracking his private jet, the Washington Post's massive layoff, and the latest in the culture war between the left and right.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 You know, because Elon Musk is the main character now, I guess.
00:00:23.000 Every news story's about him.
00:00:25.000 But it's probably because he took over the narrative machine, and they have nothing to do.
00:00:29.000 They're trapped.
00:00:31.000 These journalists are trapped in Elon's box, where he determines what they can or can't say, and for the most part, he's allowing free speech.
00:00:39.000 It's a coffee maker, Luke.
00:00:41.000 Someone's like, what's going on?
00:00:42.000 Coffee maker!
00:00:44.000 So, this is really funny because we got a couple different reports about how these Twitterati journalists are desperately trying to get off Twitter, but can't, and they keep coming back.
00:00:53.000 And the big news with Twitter, Elon has banned ElonJet, an account that was tracking his private jet, and he said that anybody who's posting real-time information about someone's location is doxing them.
00:01:05.000 I actually agree.
00:01:05.000 I think Elon in the past probably didn't think it was that big of a deal until his life was very much at risk, and then he was like, okay, now this is becoming a problem.
00:01:15.000 Here's the thing.
00:01:16.000 The kid who posts these tweets about where Elon's jet is, he's still doing it on other places, a website, Instagram, Facebook, so Elon can't really do anything about it, but I get the point he's trying to make.
00:01:26.000 So we'll talk about that, plus Donald Trump says he has a major announcement to make tomorrow.
00:01:31.000 I suppose we'll see what that is.
00:01:33.000 And then there's a whole bunch of silly culture war stuff.
00:01:35.000 We got a viral video from the Washington Post where masked employees, the Washington Post, probably no one's surprised by that, are complaining that they're about to get laid off.
00:01:48.000 Because the Washington Post is shrinking, they're losing subscribers, Jeff Bezos' woke media machine is failing.
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00:03:40.000 And I wanna give a special shout-out to TimCast's good friend, Mr. Bocas, who is seen here in the center square of our little talent roster.
00:03:46.000 Of course, we've got Roberto Jr.
00:03:47.000 chillin' as well.
00:03:48.000 But we very much love our animal friends.
00:03:51.000 And Mr. Bocas, as many of you may be aware, is very, very sick.
00:03:54.000 He's terminally ill.
00:03:55.000 We don't know how much time he has left, but I really do appreciate all of the well-wishers.
00:03:59.000 Joining us tonight, after you smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends, is from America First Legal, Gene Hamilton.
00:04:07.000 Thanks, Tim.
00:04:08.000 Thanks for having me on.
00:04:09.000 Yeah, who are you?
00:04:09.000 What do you do?
00:04:10.000 So, Tim, I'm entitled as Vice President and General Counsel of America First Legal.
00:04:15.000 But look, we are a freedom-fighting organization.
00:04:19.000 We are here to stop the woke insanity of the Biden administration, of the woke left.
00:04:25.000 And to fight for the rights of all Americans.
00:04:27.000 So that's really kind of who we are, what we do.
00:04:31.000 We've been involved in a lot of stuff lately in terms of this big tech censorship in collaboration with the government, stopping race-based programs that discriminate against Americans based on the color of their skin.
00:04:43.000 You name the issue and we're getting involved in it these days.
00:04:46.000 Right on.
00:04:46.000 You guys recently had, there was a big revelation.
00:04:49.000 The lawsuits you're involved in have exposed government collusion with big tech platforms.
00:04:53.000 Right.
00:04:53.000 I mean, look, it's one of several kind of channels that are going on at the same time, right?
00:04:58.000 Whether that's the Hunter Biden or the Twitter files with the laptop stuff that Elon's been exposing, whether it's this Missouri lawsuit that Eric Schmidt's been leading, or whether it's our own investigative work that we've been doing for a number of months now, producing stuff to show, hey, look, there were actually back-channel communications the government actors were making with Twitter, with Facebook, where they had channels that
00:05:23.000 they were able to report what they deemed as misinformation or disinformation and
00:05:28.000 get it taken down by the platforms, which should be shocking to everybody. But that's just an example
00:05:33.000 of one of the things that we've been doing. Considering, as I mentioned, Elon Musk is basically
00:05:37.000 the main character, We're going to get into all this stuff, so thanks for joining us.
00:05:41.000 We got Luke Rutkowski hanging out.
00:05:42.000 Yep, Gene said he's going to be bailing us out of the gulags, so thank you in advance.
00:05:47.000 I really appreciate that.
00:05:49.000 My name is Luke Rutkowski of wearechanged.org.
00:05:50.000 Today I'm wearing a t-shirt that we just designed last week that says things I'll never see in my life, and of course it has a flying pig on it, it has a unicorn on it, it has a dinosaur on it, and of course it has the Epstein-Maxwell client list that you will never see because the government is very corrupt.
00:06:06.000 If you like this shirt and the larger messaging behind it, you can get it on TheBestPoliticalShirts.com.
00:06:12.000 Because you do, that's why I'm here.
00:06:13.000 Thank you so much for having me.
00:06:14.000 Hi, everyone.
00:06:15.000 Ian Crossland here, iancrossland.net.
00:06:17.000 If you follow me on any social media networks, you want to.
00:06:20.000 It's good to see you, Gene.
00:06:21.000 And I'm looking forward to going deep on this, as we've been talking about this a lot the last couple of weeks.
00:06:25.000 And I'm glad to see that you've been so heavily involved.
00:06:27.000 Sounds great.
00:06:28.000 And we also have Serge.
00:06:30.000 Yes, I'm back.
00:06:31.000 I'm back, guys.
00:06:33.000 Ready for the show.
00:06:33.000 It'll be a good one today.
00:06:35.000 All right, we're gonna get started with the more serious news that Elon Musk actually just dropped.
00:06:40.000 And there's some news related to this.
00:06:42.000 Elon said, any account doxing real-time location info of anyone will be suspended, as it is a physical safety violation.
00:06:50.000 This includes posting links to sites with real-time location info.
00:06:54.000 Posting locations someone traveled to on a slightly delayed basis isn't a safety problem, so it's okay.
00:06:59.000 So the big story today that's trending like crazy is ElonJet.
00:07:03.000 And all of these leftists are like, I can't believe Elon banned Elon Jet.
00:07:07.000 He said he believed in free speech.
00:07:08.000 Free speech means you can share public information.
00:07:11.000 Elon just posted this only about 20 minutes ago.
00:07:15.000 Last night, a car carrying Lil X in LA was followed by a crazy stalker thinking it was me, who later blocked the car from moving and climbed onto the hood.
00:07:25.000 Legal action is being taken against Sweeney and organizations who supported harm to my family.
00:07:31.000 So this is crazy.
00:07:32.000 Here's the story from CNN.
00:07:35.000 Twitter suspends account that tracked Musk's private jet despite billionaire's free speech pledge.
00:07:40.000 Oh, free speech pledge.
00:07:41.000 They say Twitter on Wednesday suspended an account that tracked the location of his jet despite his commitment of free speech blah blah blah.
00:07:48.000 Twitter later restored the Elon jet account Wednesday evening after the company posted a new set of edicts that appeared to be designed specifically to justify the removal of the jet tracking account.
00:07:57.000 The move comes after Musk has reinstated previous Twitter rule breakers.
00:08:02.000 The ElonJet account run by Jack Sweeney, a 20-year-old Florida college student, used publicly available flight tracking information to build a Twitter bot that tweeted every time Musk's Gulfstream took off and landed at an airport.
00:08:14.000 The last post from the account prior to the suspension showed Musk's jet taking off from Oakland, California on Monday and landing in Los Angeles 48 minutes later.
00:08:22.000 Sweeney woke up Wednesday morning with a message from Twitter saying he'd been banned.
00:08:26.000 Here's what I'm wondering.
00:08:28.000 Was this it?
00:08:29.000 Was it actually Lil X flying on the plane, and then a lunatic, seeing the information, shows up, starts harassing Lil X, and then... I mean, this is not a flight that Elon's on.
00:08:41.000 So this goes beyond just doxing Elon's jet.
00:08:45.000 This wasn't about Elon.
00:08:46.000 This is a private jet, which can be used by many people, can be rented out, can be commissioned, and because of that, very serious harm nearly came to an individual.
00:08:56.000 I also want to mention that one story where, who was it, that rapper?
00:09:00.000 You mentioned this before the show, Serge, that rapper who was like chilling with his girlfriend and she posted a picture of his burger.
00:09:04.000 Oh yeah, PnB Rock, that's right.
00:09:06.000 Chicken and waffles.
00:09:07.000 Chicken and waffles.
00:09:07.000 Correct, in South Central LA.
00:09:10.000 And then someone walked up and just shot and killed him.
00:09:12.000 Yeah, he took it for his, he's famous for his chains, wearing a lot of chains around him and someone just felt like it was their time to take him.
00:09:17.000 Yeah.
00:09:18.000 So what do you guys think?
00:09:18.000 I kind of agree with this policy.
00:09:20.000 I think you should not be doxing.
00:09:22.000 Doxing is real-time exposing, you know, someone's personal information or private information, I guess you would call it, not like what hair color, even things like that, like what their name is, what their address is, what their phone number is, what they look like, those kind of data in real-time to people you don't know is a form of doxing.
00:09:37.000 But the thing is, Elon's got to specify what real-time means, because is it five minutes ago?
00:09:42.000 Is that still considered real-time?
00:09:43.000 Is it nine minutes ago?
00:09:44.000 Like when is it now no longer real-time?
00:09:47.000 We were talking about this.
00:09:48.000 Ian brought this up before the show.
00:09:50.000 When we went to New York to check out the ads we put up in Times Square, Ian took some pictures and was going to post them, and I was like, just wait a few minutes.
00:09:56.000 Yeah, I waited like 20 minutes.
00:09:57.000 We changed locations before I put the picture up, because we were standing right where I took the picture.
00:10:01.000 And that was a smart move.
00:10:02.000 You never know.
00:10:03.000 Real time, you know?
00:10:04.000 Well, considering that wrappers stir the chicken and waffles.
00:10:07.000 Yeah, seriously.
00:10:07.000 Makes a lot of sense.
00:10:08.000 Just don't dangle your gems in front of the hungry and poor.
00:10:14.000 Don't show unnecessary data.
00:10:15.000 Don't leave things in plain sight in your car when you go into the store.
00:10:19.000 Hide your valuables.
00:10:21.000 It's a good point, but the analogy was very esoteric.
00:10:24.000 Most people don't have gems to dangle, but Ian's got a big pile in front of him.
00:10:29.000 Don't leave your phone in plain sight in your car when you get out and go into the store.
00:10:32.000 Stuff like that.
00:10:33.000 Don't tempt fate.
00:10:34.000 Yeah.
00:10:35.000 Don't bring all your fancy dye to a game shop unless you want people to lust for them.
00:10:39.000 And I think doxxing is a form of tempting fate.
00:10:40.000 You're like saying, you know, I'm not saying to do anything, but here's the info in case you want to kind of thing.
00:10:46.000 Yeah.
00:10:46.000 Look, I'm in total agreement with you guys.
00:10:48.000 It's the right policy.
00:10:49.000 It's the right call.
00:10:50.000 I mean, when folks' physical safety is at issue, It's a totally different ballgame.
00:10:55.000 And mind you, the same critics who are complaining about this saying, oh, Mr. Free Speech, whatever, are a lot of the same folks who are probably saying misinformation or disinformation during the pandemic were forms of violence or that they were threatening and they needed to be taken down.
00:11:10.000 They've lost their baseline of reality and what's actually a threat to people and what's not.
00:11:16.000 And your physical location, the safety of your family and yourself, is paramount.
00:11:22.000 And so that's absolutely something that needs to be monitored.
00:11:25.000 But, you know, misinformation, disinformation, it's ridiculous.
00:11:29.000 Yet, they were more than happy to cheer that on.
00:11:31.000 Yeah, the word violence has been taken way out of context and blown out of proportion.
00:11:34.000 Like, calling someone a name, even if it's a nasty name, is not violent.
00:11:38.000 Right.
00:11:39.000 It's not, you know.
00:11:42.000 And we need to really, really be honest about what real violence is, I think, in order to use that term effectively.
00:11:49.000 Well, there's a lot of other things happening here that are worth considering.
00:11:52.000 There's also some people reporting that the ElonJet Instagram account is also being banned on Twitter and is being prevented from people giving the ability of sharing that URL.
00:12:03.000 Just a couple days ago, Elon Musk said that he's not going to be doing any open-air car parades anytime soon, as of course a lot of people are saying that he might be getting Epsteined, as it's fair to say that Orange Man Bad has been replaced with Spaceship Man Bad.
00:12:17.000 And right now the media, top-level lawyers, a lot of powerful politicians, a lot of intelligence agencies aren't really happy with him and are putting a lot of pressure on him to the point where there's even lawyers right now going through his application for citizenship in the United States, seeing if he made a mistake, seeing if he lied, so they could try to renounce his U.S.
00:12:37.000 citizenship, which is crazy!
00:12:39.000 That's not true, is it?
00:12:40.000 I believe so.
00:12:41.000 Some random woman tweeted that and everyone was just like, who is this person?
00:12:43.000 Why wouldn't it be true, especially with how much they're grasping for their straws when it comes to attacking him?
00:12:48.000 I wouldn't be surprised if this was true.
00:12:51.000 I wouldn't either, but some random leftist propaganda account claiming that they're trying to revoke Elon's citizenship is very different from A news report, at the very least.
00:13:00.000 Like, you know, we got a video of the Washington Post, people getting laid off and freaking out, and I tweeted, you know, what's that word for when you derive pleasure from the suffering of your enemies?
00:13:08.000 And, uh, so we get it, we get it.
00:13:10.000 Shoutout to Florida.
00:13:10.000 But, um, I still would be like, some random blue check saying it, versus an organization putting their weight behind it.
00:13:17.000 Not like I trust them a whole lot, they'll probably twist and lie about it, but there's gotta be some evidence.
00:13:22.000 Well, I think you're right.
00:13:26.000 But at the same time, when we look at all the high-level pressure tactics that are going against Elon, it wouldn't surprise me if people are doing this, not putting their face behind it yet, because it's more about sending a threat.
00:13:37.000 It's more about trying to harass someone.
00:13:39.000 It's more about trying to intimidate someone.
00:13:41.000 And I think that's why this news was shared so widely today and talked about as significantly as it was, because I truly do see uh them grasping at the straws here and trying to figure out any reason to try to get him and try to stop him from doing what he's doing because as we mentioned here many times on this show he he's changing the game here he's creating a situation where people are finally able to speak freely this changes everything powerful people the only thing that they have is the consensus is the only thing that they have is people's ignorance especially when they commit all these crimes against populations
00:14:15.000 So when you have a man promising to get rid of all of that, that's a huge threat against them, and this is why I think he's taking his safety more seriously than ever before.
00:14:23.000 I hope, Elon, if you're listening, you gotta, if you're gonna subvert the empire, you gotta do it subtly.
00:14:29.000 If you tell them your plans before you do it, that's what JFK kept doing.
00:14:32.000 He kept telling them that he's gonna disband the CIA and the CIA and then they, you know, come out, they can stop you if they know what you're gonna do.
00:14:40.000 So subtlety and decentralization.
00:14:42.000 I don't think he's revealed his plan.
00:14:45.000 I kind of feel like there's a couple memes going around about how Elon is very much in line with the World Economic Forum on many, many issues.
00:14:54.000 UBI being one of them, that he's got Tesla factories in China, and that he's praised the Chinese Communist Party in the past.
00:15:00.000 You know, look, the dude may agree with us on some key issues like free speech, but I don't think he agrees with us on a lot of issues.
00:15:08.000 You know, I got a... I saw on YouTube, Hasan Piker, the leftist, made a video called Tim Pool confronts Elon Musk, where he actually says it's an unironic like of a tweet from Tim Pool.
00:15:23.000 Because I tweeted out that gag where I said, you know, I used to think Neuralink was scary and dangerous, but then Elon bought Twitter and agreed with me ideologically.
00:15:30.000 Now I think Neuralink is great and want to have my brain plugged into the machine.
00:15:34.000 And so he was like, yeah, great.
00:15:35.000 But then he got mad at me because I said, look, I'm screwing around.
00:15:39.000 Neuralink is great, you know, but the putting in your brain interface stuff is something else.
00:15:43.000 He didn't like that.
00:15:44.000 But I think there is something to it when Leftists like that would agree, like, hey, hey, the Neuralink brain stuff is probably over the line, you know, we don't want to go there.
00:15:55.000 So I'm like, well, if that's the unifying thing, and he actually liked a tweet from me, bro, I agree.
00:16:00.000 You know, I can understand if someone's paralyzed, they want Neuralink, they'll ask for it.
00:16:04.000 I don't like the idea that Elon's outright said the goal of it is human one-to-one AI interfacing, which, in my view, Erases humanity.
00:16:14.000 But I think that AI is going to erase humanity anyway.
00:16:17.000 And that we're probably, yeah, we're evolving into some technocratic, you know, machine first society, it seems like where it's inevitably we might branch off and have still like, you know, ludite humans that don't want they want to live in the jungle and be away from electricity.
00:16:32.000 But like, We're not going to be in this Homo sapien form forever as the dominant species on Earth, so I think that we are becoming... I mean, we're already kind of cyborg, and I love the idea of being able to type with my thoughts and being able to communicate with my thoughts, because I think way faster than my hands can type.
00:16:47.000 It's true, but see, that's what you think is going to happen, and what's really going to happen is you're going to... You know, Phil made a really, really great point about this, Phil Labonte, last night.
00:16:56.000 He said, you get the Neuralink, They don't tell you to do anything.
00:17:00.000 What happens is, you'll go out and you'll do something.
00:17:03.000 You'll buy a McDonald's cheeseburger, and the Neuralink instantly will give you the tiniest little dopamine hit.
00:17:09.000 You won't know why, but you'll just enjoy yourself.
00:17:12.000 And over time, those micro-hits of dopamine will start pushing you in a specific direction and shaping you into the person you never chose to be, and you won't even realize you were manipulated into being a puppet.
00:17:23.000 Yeah, the code and the algorithms are not free of the neural net.
00:17:27.000 Everything has to be transparent.
00:17:28.000 You need to know why it's feeding you, what dopamine rushes when, what levels, and ideally you're setting those levels yourself.
00:17:35.000 It will be complete annihilation for the species if it is not open source and free software.
00:17:40.000 You need complete transparency with a technology like this.
00:17:43.000 I mean, in a way, I was going to say it's like running water, but we really don't know what's coming out of our tap water either.
00:17:48.000 If you think hacking a computer network is valuable, wait until you can hack a person.
00:17:54.000 Like, there already is social engineering, a field of, you know, hacker culture where people manipulate people.
00:17:59.000 But imagine being able to pull up a keyboard, knowing the code because it's open source, then governments develop exploits.
00:18:06.000 There would be open source patching of these security issues, too.
00:18:09.000 Don't get me wrong.
00:18:10.000 But you're going to see zero-day attacks.
00:18:12.000 You're going to be sitting in your room, and you're going to be like, all right, let's do the anti-government subversive show.
00:18:16.000 Oh, my brain's exploding.
00:18:18.000 And then just, oh no, he got hacked.
00:18:20.000 We, that was routed through a bunch of IPs.
00:18:22.000 We can't figure out who did it.
00:18:23.000 You could do it.
00:18:24.000 So like it automatically shuts down if there's outside interference.
00:18:26.000 How would it, everything, everything is exploitable.
00:18:30.000 So as long as there's any kind of read, write capabilities someone will find a way to go into your brain
00:18:37.000 and just mess you up.
00:18:39.000 You thought computer viruses were bad.
00:18:41.000 Imagine that in your head when your computer is your brain.
00:18:45.000 So there's a lot of potential for a lot of things going wrong here and I think skepticism is our best friend moving forward.
00:18:52.000 So we have all of these, you know, Twitter leftists freaking out, they're screaming, you know, Elon Musk is doxing people, I thought he believed in free speech!
00:19:00.000 And my response is kind of just like, I don't care what you think, because you never agreed with free speech in the first place, so get off your high horse, no one believes you.
00:19:07.000 But, you know, Elon pointed out that someone basically attacked Lil X, who was like, I guess using his plane, I'm not sure if that's what it was.
00:19:13.000 But we have this story, which I think is absolutely fascinating and on point.
00:19:17.000 Nancy Mace taunts left-wing activists she exposed for extremist tweets with snowflake emoji.
00:19:23.000 Oh my.
00:19:24.000 Oh my.
00:19:25.000 So, here's what happens.
00:19:27.000 A bunch of these woke leftists, fake news liars, they make fake posts all day and night, they lie about everything because they're psychotic cultists, they're evil people.
00:19:39.000 They're being, uh, they're testifying before Congress.
00:19:42.000 And Nancy Mace asks, do you think rhetoric online is bad?
00:19:45.000 And they all say, yes.
00:19:45.000 Do you think it leads to violence?
00:19:46.000 Yes.
00:19:47.000 Then she pulls up this tweet from Alejandra Caraballo, who called for the public accosting of Supreme Court justices.
00:19:56.000 She then mentions, you know, someone went and tried to kill Brett Kavanaugh.
00:20:00.000 And it's an epic roast.
00:20:02.000 This person, Carbile, is like, I need to clarify.
00:20:05.000 That's not actually what I said.
00:20:06.000 And she's like, it's right here.
00:20:08.000 You said it.
00:20:08.000 And boom, major smackdown.
00:20:11.000 When these people come out and they get angry at Elon, and they're like, I thought you were gonna protect free speech, and Elon's like, dude, don't share the location of my jet.
00:20:18.000 These are people who are trying to use our good faith against us, that we would believe in free speech, they want to justify the sharing of Elon's real-time location data.
00:20:27.000 Okay, that's scary, and it says to me, they want him dead.
00:20:31.000 I know it's a meme, where like these leftists will be like, they want you dead. That's it.
00:20:35.000 That's the Republican Party. But like, if they're actively calling for violence,
00:20:40.000 if they've gone and thrown Molotovs into police vehicles and smash windows and quite literally
00:20:44.000 killed dozens of people in the May George Floyd riots, and then Elon Musk is like, you know,
00:20:50.000 for safety reasons, I won't be doing public events. And we're going to shut down real time
00:20:54.000 location sharing. And then they go, Oh, no, oh, geez, our free speech. Oh, what are you doing?
00:20:59.000 Yeah, no, they just want him hurt.
00:21:01.000 That's where we're at.
00:21:02.000 I don't think doxing people on the internet is free speech anyway.
00:21:04.000 Right.
00:21:05.000 It is!
00:21:06.000 It is.
00:21:06.000 I mean, it's free speech under the U.S.
00:21:08.000 Constitution in the colloquial sense of telephones and, like, you could put a piece of paper on a telephone pole that showed a guy's face with his address.
00:21:16.000 That was legal.
00:21:17.000 But now that we have the internet, it's another realm of function.
00:21:21.000 And this kind of thing is not—it's not, like, benefiting society to dox people.
00:21:26.000 So I don't see why we support it as a form of free speech.
00:21:29.000 I mean, I guess it's a challenge.
00:21:30.000 It is free speech.
00:21:31.000 You're allowed to say, so-and-so lives here.
00:21:33.000 We had a phone book, you know, before.
00:21:35.000 Growing up, there's the white pages.
00:21:36.000 You can Google search someone's address.
00:21:37.000 It's very, very easy.
00:21:39.000 So it's tough to justify when on social media they say, don't post someone's address, when you can just Google it and see it if you want to.
00:21:46.000 However, I still do agree.
00:21:48.000 There's no idea expressed.
00:21:51.000 In sharing someone's physical location.
00:21:53.000 There's probably some exemptions to this.
00:21:55.000 Like, if someone was at, like, the Bohemian Grove or something, in real time, and you were like, they're here now, look!
00:22:02.000 So, I have to wonder if there's a potential negative downside to this.
00:22:07.000 If, let's say for instance, Bill Gates is in real time at Epstein Island, and someone shares that, can they get banned?
00:22:14.000 Or is Elon going to be like, no, no, it's okay.
00:22:18.000 You're exposing him.
00:22:19.000 No, I think he's going to be like, real time location sharing is wrong.
00:22:22.000 Erase that.
00:22:24.000 What do you think?
00:22:26.000 Look, I just keep coming back to the fundamental point that your personal physical safety and the safety, especially of your kids, of your family, is one of the most important things that we've lost sight of amongst all of this.
00:22:40.000 And so anything that's going to, again, this is a private platform, to make it so that at least it makes it a little bit harder for someone to actually find out where you are when there's real threats against someone who's high profile like that makes a ton of sense.
00:22:57.000 You know, again, you just go back and you juxtapose it against the stuff that they actually were trying to take down, the things that they were trying to flag as misinformation, disinformation, false information, in their eyes, was totally fine and acceptable.
00:23:12.000 But something that's actually going to physically threaten somebody or their family, to say that that's somehow wrong just lacks common sense, setting everything else aside.
00:23:23.000 I think we also have to be careful to also respect journalism here, because I could see this being used to hurt journalism, especially when it comes to Individuals like Bill Clinton meeting the people that were investigating him on the tarmac with the head of the DNC.
00:23:39.000 Like someone going to the Bilderberg meeting.
00:23:42.000 Some prominent individuals going and colluding with corporate individuals.
00:23:47.000 Or like the Prime Minister of New Zealand going to BlackRock.
00:23:50.000 I think those are all newsworthy events.
00:23:52.000 How do we cover them without also compromising people's safety?
00:23:56.000 How do we cover them without being censored online?
00:23:58.000 I think those are bigger questions that I'm kind of left here after all this.
00:24:02.000 I think you just don't want to dox them in real time.
00:24:06.000 But if I'm doing a live stream outside of the Bilderberg meeting, and then Klaus Schwab or let's just say Eric Schmidt walks down the street, which has happened to me, I go up to him.
00:24:18.000 I'm like, hey, Eric Schmidt, what are you doing here?
00:24:20.000 Is that considered something that will get me punished or banned?
00:24:24.000 I hope not.
00:24:26.000 It raises some questions here that I think should be answered.
00:24:30.000 Yeah, because it's legal to record someone in public.
00:24:33.000 Yeah, because it is in the public interest.
00:24:36.000 Your politician meeting with the corporate heads, your politician meeting with secret groups of shadowy elites behind closed doors, making decisions for the general public, is something that is important.
00:24:47.000 But there are also a lot of crazy people out there that do want to hurt people, and that's out of your control.
00:24:53.000 How do you mitigate the dangers with actual reporting?
00:24:56.000 I don't know.
00:24:57.000 I don't have that answer.
00:24:58.000 But, you know, I think the law says one thing right now, right?
00:25:02.000 What's the legal basis for all of this?
00:25:05.000 Well, I mean, look, on Twitter, again, it's a private platform, and so Elon Musk can make whatever rules he wants for his private platform.
00:25:14.000 But I think there's a difference.
00:25:16.000 There's a difference between CNN or Fox or whomever interviewing some senator standing in front of the Capitol building.
00:25:22.000 That's something that's not going to attract a crazy.
00:25:25.000 That's something that's not going to make it that much easier for some rando to follow that person to plot things out.
00:25:31.000 It's a totally different deal if you've got like a flight tracker that's got your real time location.
00:25:35.000 I mean, would we be okay with a GPS device that someone put on your car?
00:25:40.000 Right?
00:25:41.000 And then they mapped it and then anyone in the world could know exactly where your car was at any point in time and someone created a Twitter bot that was reporting on your location?
00:25:49.000 I mean, I don't think so.
00:25:50.000 No, I don't think that would be good.
00:25:52.000 I'm finding it all funny because the left screams about stochastic terrorism.
00:25:57.000 Where it's the old concept, oh, won't someone rid me of this priest?
00:26:00.000 They're like, you know, Chaya Wrightchick, libs of TikTok, is a stochastic terrorist who, you know, incites indirectly all of this hatred so that people know to go do these things.
00:26:11.000 It's like, okay, shut up.
00:26:12.000 Like, you're literally calling for violence and then demanding we get to know exactly where Elon Musk is.
00:26:17.000 Right.
00:26:17.000 Come on.
00:26:18.000 As they also say that words are violent.
00:26:20.000 As they're telling everyone that having a scientific debate on a procedure that's been rushed through without any long-term studies, even just questioning that is dangerous and it's going to lead to murder.
00:26:30.000 I mean, these are very nonsensical, very emotionally driven individuals that clearly are there serving an agenda rather than trying to have an honest conversations about what is right, about our rights, and about what we should have as sacred, and that is our ability to say what we want as long as we're not hurting anyone.
00:26:47.000 Who decides how people get hurt?
00:26:49.000 Again, that's up in the air here, and I'm left with that question.
00:26:53.000 I don't have an answer to it myself.
00:26:55.000 Maybe if you're doxing someone that's in a secure location, like you said someone went into a building, then maybe that's less dangerous than if you're doxing someone that's out on the street, out in the open.
00:27:05.000 Maybe there's something there.
00:27:07.000 What does Elon think is going to happen once we're all neuralinked?
00:27:11.000 And assume it's decentralized.
00:27:13.000 Assume it's centralized!
00:27:15.000 There's no way.
00:27:17.000 If you increase the speed of information tenfold, one hundredfold, hooking people's brains right to the machine, everyone will know where everyone is all the time.
00:27:25.000 And there's no blocking that information.
00:27:27.000 You can't do it.
00:27:28.000 Right.
00:27:28.000 And then I would think there would be huge amounts of rapidly escalating violence that would then settle, and then you would have a sense of calm.
00:27:35.000 But then you would know who was going to be violent before they were violent, so you could stop them.
00:27:40.000 Then you're in pre-crime, which is like Minority Report, where they're arresting people that haven't even done anything yet.
00:27:45.000 So I don't like that.
00:27:46.000 Maybe.
00:27:47.000 I mean, depending on where we go with Neuralink, what might happen is the AI will start track, it'll track everyone's brain patterns, and then it will be like, there's a, 97.3% of the time, when there's a mass shooting, the brain patterns look like this, in this part of the brain, within an hour of the attack.
00:28:05.000 And then all of a sudden, some dude's walking down the street, and You know, the pre-crime unit comes and grabs them and cuffs them and says, you're about to commit a crime, we can tell by tracking your brain.
00:28:15.000 They'll do that and then they'll go to the guy's trunk and they'll find all these guns and they'll be like, see, it's proof that we can do it!
00:28:20.000 And then I could see them starting like an entire, you know, sector of the government as pre-crime and then all of a sudden it's not working sometimes.
00:28:27.000 They're getting people wrong sometimes.
00:28:28.000 But it's all for your safety.
00:28:29.000 It's all for your health.
00:28:31.000 It's all for the greater good, Ian.
00:28:33.000 For the common man.
00:28:34.000 Yes.
00:28:35.000 For the collective.
00:28:37.000 Live in the pod, eat the bugs, and plug into the Neuralink.
00:28:39.000 You think we're better off and that we'll benefit society and space and reality better as a Borg unit?
00:28:44.000 Or as a bunch of... Defined benefit.
00:28:47.000 Like, you know, increase prosperity, growth, you know, diminish entropy.
00:28:56.000 If you followed Star Trek stuff, you know there was a Borg queen.
00:29:00.000 Who was... A centralized unit?
00:29:02.000 Yeah, and the Borg Queen was, like, an independent mind that controlled the whole network to its benefit.
00:29:08.000 So, maybe a decentralized Borg.
00:29:09.000 I've never seen a fantasy decentralized Borg unit.
00:29:12.000 That might work better.
00:29:13.000 I think it's bad either way.
00:29:15.000 Benefit is an opinion, I guess, but some people probably think that all humans network together is a good thing and they want to borg.
00:29:25.000 That just seems like you're dead.
00:29:27.000 It seems like every individual human dies at that moment.
00:29:30.000 And then what you end up with is this collective hive of noise of no merit.
00:29:37.000 It's just a buzz.
00:29:38.000 It's just a machine.
00:29:40.000 I think individuality is beautiful, I think.
00:29:43.000 Each little unique snowflake, you know, is something of value.
00:29:47.000 So that's what's worrying to me about this idea of Neuralink in the long run.
00:29:51.000 But I don't know.
00:29:51.000 Whatever.
00:29:52.000 We'll see where we go, huh?
00:29:53.000 How about that?
00:29:54.000 That's weird.
00:29:55.000 It's like the ghost in the shell, basically.
00:29:57.000 A lot of the stuff is what I reminisce of immediately.
00:29:59.000 But at least in Ghost in the Shell, for those that aren't familiar, anime and manga, like, you're an individual.
00:30:04.000 Yeah.
00:30:05.000 They cyberize your brain with nanobots and then you can interface with computers and stuff.
00:30:08.000 Correct.
00:30:09.000 But the reality of what would happen, as we're already seeing with Twitter, is that we'd become a hive.
00:30:13.000 Like, we're already turning into that just because we have cell phones as it is, which is creepy.
00:30:18.000 Or do you think you'll get the neural net at any point, Gene?
00:30:22.000 You know, look, I, who knows?
00:30:24.000 Probably not.
00:30:25.000 I'm much more of an individualist myself.
00:30:28.000 I don't like the idea of any kind of machine planted in me, but that's me.
00:30:33.000 So, you know, look, but I think the point Timmy just made, which is you see the way right now The spheres of influence and the power centers who have been using social media and who have been using these avenues of communication in the media have already formed a lot of this groupthink in our society.
00:30:53.000 And we see the dangers that are associated with that when we have things like certain people are determining what's true and what's false.
00:31:01.000 And anything else is censored and shut down and you're not allowed to say anything.
00:31:06.000 And you already see some of that today in a way that you didn't see 10, 20, 30 years ago at all.
00:31:15.000 And that's just based on our modern communication in technology and social media.
00:31:24.000 We go from like, haha, we're gonna make fun of these, you know, woke people on social media, and now we're like, well, we're gonna plug ourselves into the brain, turn into a machine, and the world ends.
00:31:32.000 Let's jump to this clip.
00:31:34.000 We have this tweet from Clay Travis.
00:31:37.000 The Washington Post, which has lost 500,000 subscribers in the past year, has announced layoffs are coming to the paper.
00:31:44.000 The meeting didn't go well.
00:31:45.000 Oh, let's play the meeting for you.
00:31:46.000 into a grievance session.
00:31:50.000 Look at the way they're wearing masks.
00:31:57.000 What are you going to do to protect people's jobs?
00:31:59.000 Are they going to be treated like the magazine staffers?
00:32:01.000 We'll have more information as we move forward.
00:32:05.000 Thank you very much.
00:32:05.000 So as these people wear masks and wine about what are you going
00:32:11.000 to do to protect people's jobs?
00:32:11.000 I we're talking about neural link and I'm like these people will
00:32:15.000 sign up day one.
00:32:17.000 And I think, I wonder if Elon knows that.
00:32:20.000 He looks at these people and he was like, these people would put masks on their asses if they were told to do it by the government.
00:32:25.000 They're gonna get the Nora link when we tell them to do it.
00:32:27.000 They got the apps, the mobile apps, they got the ID cards, they all did it.
00:32:31.000 Who didn't?
00:32:32.000 Well, it's the conservatives, the libertarians, it's the anarchists, it's the right, whatever they want to call it.
00:32:37.000 These are the people who are like, nah.
00:32:38.000 How do you convince them to do it?
00:32:40.000 You gotta win them over.
00:32:41.000 That was the point of the tweet I was making, basically.
00:32:43.000 Like, as if this is gonna happen.
00:32:45.000 People... These people... Government's gonna come out and say, Oh, you know, there's a pandemic, and there's terror, so you gotta get the chip.
00:32:51.000 And once you get the chip, then you can go to your Starbucks.
00:32:54.000 But people like us, we're gonna be like, Nah, I don't need Starbucks.
00:32:57.000 I think they would also really love those Chinese COVID tests that they're applying to people up there, you know what.
00:33:05.000 But I do believe that there is going to be a larger financial reckoning.
00:33:10.000 I think Elon is trying to do as many things fiscally responsible at Twitter right now, because I think he sees a storm is coming, especially financially.
00:33:20.000 That is going to be correlated with centralized forces pushing a UBI, pushing central bank digital currencies, pushing for a solution that, of course, is going to greatly benefit them and give them more power over everyone else.
00:33:33.000 So I think these layoffs are just more layoffs to come already.
00:33:36.000 There was so much layoffs in the tech industry when it came to Amazon, when it came to Facebook, when it came to Twitter.
00:33:42.000 These are not accidental layoffs.
00:33:43.000 These are layoffs in anticipation of the larger financial market being turned upside down because the last three years we prioritized safety, shutting down small mom-and-pop businesses over of course Walmart, Costco, and all these other billionaires that got Richer more than they ever did before in their entire human history.
00:34:02.000 When we look at this larger transfer of wealth, it was a lot of money.
00:34:06.000 When we look at how much money the U.S.
00:34:07.000 Federal Reserve prints, it's a lot of money.
00:34:10.000 There's going to be ramifications for that.
00:34:11.000 I think this is the beginning sign of a lot of other businesses that are going to be laying people off in droves to come the next few weeks and months.
00:34:19.000 What do you think financially, Gene?
00:34:21.000 What's happening here?
00:34:23.000 I think almost everything you've said is, I would agree with 100%.
00:34:27.000 And we are facing a financial reckoning, because it's not just issues like this, but it's the government with the printing money, with spending money on just anything, just dealing it out like it's candy at Halloween, is not a good way to run your society.
00:34:43.000 So there is a reckoning that's coming.
00:34:46.000 I don't know what the influence with the Washington Post, though, with this particular video.
00:34:53.000 It sounds like they've lost subscribers, from what I understand.
00:34:56.000 Yeah, half a million, I think.
00:34:57.000 Half a million.
00:34:57.000 That's a ton of folks.
00:34:58.000 That's a ton of people.
00:35:00.000 But look, you can't run a business if you lose half a million subscribers.
00:35:06.000 Hopefully it's a lesson that, hey, maybe they could actually try to report on some things in a little bit more of a balanced direction, but they're not going to take that lesson.
00:35:14.000 These workers are going to vote communist in two seconds.
00:35:16.000 Right.
00:35:17.000 Washington Post is going to shut down, or they're going to get fired, and they're going to say, but our jobs are essential!
00:35:23.000 I know!
00:35:23.000 What do we do?
00:35:24.000 Let's vote for the government to nationalize the Washington Post!
00:35:27.000 That's a good idea!
00:35:28.000 Then our jobs will be secured!
00:35:30.000 What they leave out of those ideas is that it's basically, our jobs are secured by forcing other people to make food for us at gunpoint.
00:35:36.000 Doesn't the CIA have enough black budget money to finance the Washington Post?
00:35:40.000 Aren't they already doing it?
00:35:41.000 I mean, come on, let's be real here.
00:35:43.000 When their reporting is just based on anonymous intel sources all the time, you would think the CIA would throw them a few bucks.
00:35:51.000 Come on CIA, you could do a little bit better.
00:35:53.000 Amazon also, Jeff Bezos has a lot of connections with the CIA, so just something to think about here.
00:35:58.000 But this is a big problem here because Vice News is also reporting that there's going to be layoffs, there's going to be restrictions at the company.
00:36:05.000 Look at just what happened to CNN.
00:36:07.000 It doesn't pay to be a shill.
00:36:08.000 So, that's a big learning lesson from all the corporate media that's dealing with a big reckoning.
00:36:13.000 As independent media, I mean, you're doing good, I'm doing good.
00:36:16.000 We're growing.
00:36:17.000 Yeah, we're expanding.
00:36:17.000 I mean, look, if we had anywhere near half a million subscribers, that would be just absolutely bonkers.
00:36:22.000 Game changer.
00:36:23.000 Like, absolutely.
00:36:25.000 I mean, five, just do the math.
00:36:26.000 Five hundred thousand members, and it's ten bucks a month to be a member at TimCast.com.
00:36:32.000 Yeah, you're talking $60 million a year.
00:36:36.000 At that point, that's a crazy amount of cash to be dealing with.
00:36:40.000 You could hire thousands of people.
00:36:43.000 You could just basically gut all of your competition and hire up their employees if you had that much money.
00:36:49.000 These are spoiled brats that are getting the diamond pacifier slapped out of their mouths.
00:36:55.000 That's what's happening here.
00:36:56.000 Nothing else matters.
00:36:57.000 I got a question.
00:36:58.000 So, you know, Elon, he rolled out the new color verification.
00:37:02.000 And if you pull this up, we got the Washington Post, they get a yellow badge.
00:37:07.000 And they say that, you know, yellow means business.
00:37:09.000 And I'm like, I could not but notice that all of the news outlets are yellow.
00:37:14.000 Is that on purpose?
00:37:16.000 Is Elon Musk behind the scenes laughing and mocking them?
00:37:19.000 Yellow journalism?
00:37:20.000 It's a reference to just garbage, you know, garbage-in.
00:37:23.000 Yellow bellies.
00:37:24.000 Stuxnhammer had a very interesting tweet highlighting the yellow... Which one?
00:37:27.000 He said, ha ha ha ha ha ha?
00:37:29.000 No, no, no.
00:37:29.000 He said that this is the universal symbol for propaganda and sensationalism.
00:37:34.000 And he's not wrong.
00:37:35.000 But the post-millennial, I think, is yellow.
00:37:38.000 And it's just, you know, I don't think it... they just made news organizations yellow.
00:37:43.000 I just think that's funny.
00:37:45.000 It's like wink wink nudge nudge.
00:37:47.000 I like it.
00:37:47.000 When I'm looking at the Washington Post struggling right now, I think what's happening is these old things that used to rely on text because that was all they had in the 1960s and 70s and 80s and stuff like that.
00:37:58.000 You didn't have internet video and it was very expensive to have a TV network.
00:38:01.000 They're still relying on this lame-ass text.
00:38:04.000 Like, text is fine for what it is, which is to get a piece of data across.
00:38:07.000 There's no emotional value.
00:38:09.000 So when you're trying to explain emotions, use internet video.
00:38:12.000 You need to be hiring people to be making internet videos.
00:38:14.000 Cut down on your overhead.
00:38:16.000 Wait, they can be working I'm working from home, man!
00:38:17.000 Stop giving them tips and advice.
00:38:19.000 Stop it!
00:38:20.000 They don't need the help.
00:38:21.000 It's the employees I care about.
00:38:23.000 They're shills for the CIA.
00:38:25.000 Don't give them advice, Ian.
00:38:26.000 Please.
00:38:26.000 I want you to understand what's going on with the old guard versus a new guard.
00:38:31.000 And I'll use a very simple analogy.
00:38:32.000 I want you to imagine a large waffle.
00:38:34.000 You've got a big waffle on your plate with all the little nooks and crannies.
00:38:37.000 Is that what they're called?
00:38:37.000 The holes in the waffles?
00:38:38.000 Because I remember the Echo commercial.
00:38:40.000 And so, you know, what this podcast is, is delicious, organic, fresh maple syrup, maybe
00:38:47.000 from Vermont.
00:38:49.000 And as it is poured over that waffle, it gets into all those little nooks and crannies along
00:38:52.000 with the butter and it's perfect every bite.
00:38:55.000 What the old guard media is, is like taking a sheet of paper and placing it on top of
00:38:59.000 the waffle.
00:39:00.000 It doesn't get into the cracks.
00:39:02.000 My point is, the reason why these kinds of shows and this kind of news is taking off,
00:39:07.000 taking off, is because we don't just say headline as Roe v.
00:39:11.000 Wade repeal looms, video game industry stays silent.
00:39:15.000 What we do is we expand upon that, we get in depth with it, we all talk about it, we bounce ideas around, then we ask the audience to talk about it.
00:39:21.000 So what I mean by filling all the nooks and crannies is we're trying to hit every crevice, every point that we can, whereas what the Washington Post does They don't even give you a blanket view.
00:39:31.000 They don't even cover the waffle.
00:39:33.000 They give you this twisted line of butter that goes in a random direction, and you're like, what is this?
00:39:40.000 It's not even the real story.
00:39:41.000 They're selectively filling certain points to make you think wrong things.
00:39:46.000 I would say that independent media is raw milk butter.
00:39:49.000 Washington Post is canola oil.
00:39:51.000 That's the way for me to help people understand this personally myself.
00:39:55.000 Margarine.
00:39:56.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:39:57.000 But, you know, Gene, what do you see happening?
00:40:00.000 Because, you know, more and more independent media is getting a bigger voice.
00:40:04.000 We're becoming more prominent.
00:40:06.000 How do you see this kind of media landscape moving forward?
00:40:08.000 Because it does seem like the old guard, the dinosaur media, the prostitutes, the horsetree media, they're just going down in droves.
00:40:16.000 I hate to celebrate something negative, but it's good to see a changing of the guard myself.
00:40:22.000 Look, it's really good to see it changing the guard.
00:40:24.000 The stuff that you guys are doing, the stuff that other folks are doing, is fantastic.
00:40:28.000 Because you're covering issues that people care about.
00:40:30.000 You're talking about things in depth, in a way that people care about.
00:40:34.000 Not in a way that some person based in Washington D.C.
00:40:36.000 is deciding how to tell you about the information.
00:40:39.000 You are engaging on it.
00:40:40.000 You're having an in-depth discussion.
00:40:42.000 I mean, it's free.
00:40:43.000 It's open.
00:40:43.000 People like to listen to it.
00:40:45.000 They're a part of the conversation.
00:40:46.000 But another piece of this, though, with the old legacy media that I don't hear a ton of folks talking about is so much of the legacy media has been centralized and nationalized, right?
00:40:56.000 And so every story is coming out of Washington.
00:40:59.000 Every story is coming out of D.C.
00:41:02.000 or New York, whatever.
00:41:04.000 Local news Truly local news.
00:41:07.000 We once had local newspapers all across this country that reported on things that affected things in communities.
00:41:13.000 Things that actually affected folks everyday lives.
00:41:16.000 And those have all gone by the wayside.
00:41:18.000 And I think personally that's a huge tragedy.
00:41:21.000 Because folks don't even know what's going on in their own neighborhoods, their own towns, their own local cities.
00:41:28.000 But yeah, they can probably tell you what Nancy Pelosi said, or what Donald Trump said, or what anyone said, because everything's become so nationalized.
00:41:36.000 And if we can support local outlets again, or find a way to get the local news covered, and then with the independent outlets, cover the actual issues, I think we'd be in a much better place as a society.
00:41:48.000 I think also another solution for Elon Musk there, instead of just having yellow verified badges, you should have glowing verified badges for all the intel agency connected news organizations that aren't really news organizations, they're just doing PR for some of the richest people in this world and the special interests who are really in charge pulling the strings behind Joe Biden.
00:42:07.000 So that's just my two cents.
00:42:09.000 And you know what he should do?
00:42:10.000 These verification badges should not be optional.
00:42:13.000 So, like, he's basically saying if you wanna get verified, you gotta get Twitter Blue, and if you're an official advertiser, you get the business verification.
00:42:20.000 There should just be bots that are operated as sock puppets by US intelligence agencies, he knows, and he gives them all, like, a glowing, you know, verification badge.
00:42:30.000 And when you highlight it, it says, this account is verified because it's run by a governmental intelligence operation.
00:42:36.000 That would be fantastic.
00:42:37.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:42:38.000 Make him glow.
00:42:39.000 Let me tell you why.
00:42:41.000 So, we just talked about how the Washington Post is laying people off.
00:42:45.000 And I described the feeling as pleasure derived from the suffering of my enemies.
00:42:50.000 Shad and Frodo.
00:42:51.000 Let me explain to you why.
00:42:53.000 From fortune.com.
00:42:55.000 People who skipped their COVID vaccine are at higher risk of traffic accidents, according to a new study.
00:43:02.000 Really?
00:43:02.000 Okay, I'm ready to see every media outlet just gutted at this point.
00:43:09.000 Just fire them all.
00:43:11.000 We need to get some billionaires.
00:43:13.000 Elon, you bought Twitter?
00:43:15.000 You can buy these outlets for much cheaper.
00:43:17.000 Just fire everybody.
00:43:19.000 No more.
00:43:20.000 I can't anymore with this.
00:43:23.000 What does getting vaccinated have to do with getting into a car accident?
00:43:28.000 Well, my guess is that they did a study, or a group of studies, and they found that people that hadn't been vaccinated had gotten into more car accidents in the past, and then now they're extrapolating in some unfounded conclusion that it means in the future they're also going to be at risk of it.
00:43:43.000 Which is insane.
00:43:44.000 It's inaccurate.
00:43:45.000 That's my guess.
00:43:46.000 I haven't read the article yet, but let's find out.
00:43:47.000 I forgot who said this, but someone responded to this story saying that's because all the vaccinated people are suffering heart attacks in their homes and not driving their cars.
00:43:56.000 That's one possibility.
00:43:58.000 Who knows?
00:43:58.000 I'm not a medical doctor.
00:44:01.000 But again, this is desperate propaganda, just trying to gaslight people to push a big pharma product that extensively is being used as a form of compliance for the general public.
00:44:13.000 I gotta say, you know, as I always do, talk to your doctor about what's right for you, right?
00:44:19.000 Don't get advice from podcasts.
00:44:20.000 I just gotta say, however, if you go to your doctor and say, Doc, now, I haven't gotten the vaccine, am I at risk for getting into a car accident?
00:44:28.000 He's gonna be like, what?
00:44:30.000 Or, I got another idea.
00:44:33.000 This is a threat to all the unvaccinated people saying, hey, You're not vaccinated.
00:44:37.000 You're going to get in a car accident here and we're going to make sure you're going to take this or else.
00:44:42.000 How else?
00:44:42.000 How else could they get so desperate?
00:44:44.000 How else?
00:44:44.000 This is ridiculous.
00:44:46.000 Last Christmas, I think Biden told people you're in for a season of death, of severe death and illness.
00:44:52.000 And I remember being on this show being like, that's not happening.
00:44:54.000 It's propaganda.
00:44:55.000 It's going to be Biden in a car and he's going to, he's going to be like sitting like across the street with his engine off and he sees you leave your house and then he starts following you.
00:45:03.000 And then he speeds around, cuts you off, and then T-bones you.
00:45:07.000 Dr. Fauci in a little Fisher Price car.
00:45:09.000 Get him!
00:45:11.000 Biden gets out and goes...
00:45:13.000 Come on, man!
00:45:14.000 Get vaccinated!
00:45:16.000 I don't think it would happen, but it's possible that a society would track everyone that got vaccinated, like the CCP's been doing, tracking people, and then start intentionally harming people that haven't been vaccinated, and then blaming it on them not getting vaccinated.
00:45:29.000 I don't think there's any evidence that that's happened, but that could be a moot point.
00:45:31.000 Okay, well, to be fair, let's read what they're saying.
00:45:34.000 They say if you passed on getting the COVID vaccine, you might be a lot more likely to get into a car crash.
00:45:40.000 Or at least those are the findings of a new study published this month in the American Journal of Medicine.
00:45:45.000 During the summer of 2021, Canadian researchers examined the encrypted government-held records of more than 11 million adults, 16% of whom hadn't received the vaccine.
00:45:54.000 They found that the unvaccinated people were 72% more likely to be involved in a severe traffic crash, in which at least one person was transported to the hospital.
00:46:04.000 than those who were vaccinated. That's similar to the increased risk of car crashes for people
00:46:08.000 with sleep apnea, though only about half of the people who abuse alcohol are researchers fine.
00:46:12.000 The excess risk of a car crash posed by unvaccinated drivers exceeds the safety gains
00:46:19.000 from modern automobile engineering advances and also imposes risks on other road users,
00:46:24.000 the authors wrote. All right, I wouldn't be surprised if where we're going with this is
00:46:32.000 we're hereby announcing that your driver's license cannot be renewed
00:46:35.000 unless you're up to date on your vaccines.
00:46:38.000 I think they were already doing that in some some places like you need to prove a vaccination or whatever but where that then brings us is no one's allowed to drive anymore.
00:46:46.000 Self-driving cars only.
00:46:47.000 I think this article is a self-owned.
00:46:49.000 They did say that it might.
00:46:51.000 The headline says that it is, and then the first sentence is that it might, so they're contradicting themselves.
00:46:56.000 This says they are at a higher risk, and then the first sentence says they might be, so that's a lie.
00:47:00.000 They're lying in some way.
00:47:02.000 And then it's exactly what I said earlier.
00:47:03.000 It was something in the past indicated that more people that hadn't been vaccinated got into 72% more car accidents in a study.
00:47:10.000 That does not indicate that in the future that will also happen.
00:47:13.000 That is not an indication of that.
00:47:14.000 Ian, stop questioning the science.
00:47:16.000 I don't even think this is science.
00:47:17.000 Well, hold on, hold on.
00:47:18.000 I can actually break down for you why this is true.
00:47:21.000 It has to do with risk, I'm assuming?
00:47:22.000 Are people more willing to take more risk?
00:47:25.000 It's real simple.
00:47:26.000 People who got vaccinated were more likely to stay home, terrified of getting sick.
00:47:30.000 And people who didn't were more likely to go out and keep working.
00:47:33.000 True.
00:47:33.000 So what did they find?
00:47:35.000 Well, gee!
00:47:36.000 Look at all these!
00:47:36.000 Yes, because people who go outside face danger.
00:47:39.000 Yeah.
00:47:41.000 And now there's going to, I'm telling you, Christmas is coming up, and there's going to be someone in your family who's like, well, you should have went and gotten the vaccine, because now you're going to get in a car accident, and you're going to be like, Ma, what are you talking about?
00:47:41.000 I love it.
00:47:52.000 That makes no sense.
00:47:53.000 Well, I was watching the MSNBC, and they said, oh, jeez.
00:47:57.000 You're going to be like, oh, yeah, Fortune magazine.
00:48:01.000 Yeah, that's a verified, you know, trusted media source.
00:48:04.000 It is!
00:48:04.000 What are you talking about?
00:48:05.000 News Guard certified 100 out of 100.
00:48:07.000 All right, well that's got to come down now.
00:48:09.000 Yeah, I mean, obviously.
00:48:11.000 You know.
00:48:12.000 I was thinking about that Yuri Bezmenov quote, where he said someone who's totally demoralized, you could tell them, show them proof that black is black and white is white and they won't, they cannot be, you know, taken out of this.
00:48:25.000 And I'm thinking just, that explains it.
00:48:28.000 And that interview is from what, 40 years ago?
00:48:29.000 Yeah.
00:48:30.000 Where he's talking about demoralization?
00:48:32.000 It explains how you can actually go to someone and say, here is a picture of the thing, and they'll be like, nah.
00:48:38.000 Okay, well then what do you do, man?
00:48:41.000 If there are people who just like, eat this stuff up and believe it, and they lack the ability to understand nuance, What is the end result?
00:48:50.000 Half the planet implodes, the other half just rebuilds?
00:48:52.000 If you do nothing, but you can give people morale boosts, great commanders do that, great artists can do that, and that will wake people up in their own mind, you know, and then they'll start to notice their surroundings.
00:49:03.000 You know, this is what I was talking about with the Washington Post thing, how when you watch a show like this, we try and break down the story, we try to make sense of it, and if you read the news, they just say this is garbage.
00:49:15.000 The headline should literally say, Ridiculous Study Claims People Who Skipped the Code Vaccine Are at a Higher Risk for Traffic Accidents Ignores It ignores common sense.
00:49:25.000 And then it could have said right away, people who were getting the vaccine were probably more likely to stay home, and people who didn't were probably more likely to go out.
00:49:32.000 And if you go outside, you're more likely to get in a car accident.
00:49:34.000 Story's over.
00:49:35.000 Have a nice day.
00:49:35.000 Or they could have just said, hey, we're desperate.
00:49:37.000 We're getting being, we're being paid by Big Pharma to shill for this.
00:49:41.000 Just please take it.
00:49:43.000 Gene, would this news story make you take the vaccine?
00:49:48.000 Well, as someone who's been in a few car accidents, you know, no.
00:49:52.000 Look, this is exactly, all of you guys are correct.
00:49:55.000 You're making a really good point, which is there are special influences who are funding a lot of these studies and these polls and the things that you see that are driving news, and there's a failure from the legacy media and from outlets that are News guard certified to actually report things in a way that makes sense to people.
00:50:14.000 That was the most nonsensical thing you could ever imagine.
00:50:16.000 Every American knows correlation is not causation.
00:50:20.000 But here we are, and you see something like that, and if that headline doesn't strike you as absolute insanity and divorced from reality, Then, like, you ought to go get your head examined.
00:50:34.000 You ought to go talk to somebody because there's something wrong.
00:50:38.000 You aren't able to understand things clearly.
00:50:40.000 Get your gut examined.
00:50:41.000 It's probably a lot of gut trauma.
00:50:42.000 Yeah, it is.
00:50:43.000 Maybe.
00:50:43.000 But what they're going to do is they're going to try and find someone to affirm them.
00:50:48.000 Right.
00:50:49.000 And then they'll just be like, please tell me I'm right.
00:50:51.000 And they'll say, you're right.
00:50:51.000 And they'll go, oh, it feels good.
00:50:52.000 But I don't think those people are happy.
00:50:53.000 I know that state of mind when people are like, please just put me back in the pod.
00:50:57.000 But really, it's not like a blissful happiness state.
00:51:01.000 Those people, they want more.
00:51:02.000 And when they realize there's more, when you control your own reality, I think it's much more enjoyable for people.
00:51:08.000 And they do seek that out when they know it's available.
00:51:11.000 You know, considering, I'd be willing to state, I bet you'll see other correlations in this way.
00:51:17.000 Because, and this is just my speculation, the people who were scared enough, like the people who were not worried and didn't get vaccinated probably went outside.
00:51:28.000 So I bet you could find a correlation between people who are vaccinated and the amount of vitamin D in someone's system.
00:51:36.000 Well, people who are vaccinated probably stayed inside.
00:51:38.000 And it's not just because of fear, it's because people in New York are more likely to be vaccinated than people in West Virginia.
00:51:44.000 West Virginia, you're in the middle of nowhere, and your neighbor is, you know, a football field away, so you're just like, I ain't gonna touch anything or anybody, what am I worried about?
00:51:52.000 You live in New York, you're in a cubicle, smashed up next to people, And you can't go eat unless you get proof of vaccination.
00:51:59.000 You're more likely to be locked inside.
00:52:00.000 You're more likely to get the vaccine.
00:52:02.000 I bet you'll even find higher instances of organic food consumption among people who aren't vaccinated.
00:52:07.000 Because there are going to be conservative people out in rural areas who are eating like farm meat that's like grass-fed beef and stuff like that.
00:52:14.000 Yeah, there's a lot of different data out there and I think there's also data that's not being looked at and ignored and not calculated that also should be.
00:52:20.000 I see Florida making a big step in the right direction now officially saying that they're going to be launching investigations, they're going to be looking into the correlations, they're going to be looking into some of the possible big problems here.
00:52:32.000 And again, data could be twisted and manipulated in many different ways, but there's a lot of glaring data that does complicate the picture of what we're seeing here, especially when it comes to Sweden, especially when it comes to Haiti, especially when it comes to the countries in Africa.
00:52:46.000 There's a lot of questions that should be asked here.
00:52:48.000 There should be more data.
00:52:49.000 There should be more investigations.
00:52:51.000 And the only people doing them is a state.
00:52:54.000 of the United States.
00:52:55.000 It's only Florida doing these investigations?
00:52:57.000 Come on, we could do better.
00:52:59.000 The truth matters here at the end of the day.
00:53:00.000 We should be investigating.
00:53:01.000 We should be getting the data.
00:53:03.000 We're not, which is an absolute shame.
00:53:05.000 Have you been involved in any of these investigations?
00:53:07.000 Look, I mean, we have some investigations about the communications between the government and some of these private entities that we've been undertaking that we started When Jen Psaki sat at the White House podium last summer and said, hey, we've been collaborating with these tech companies and we're flagging misinformation, disinformation.
00:53:24.000 But in terms of the side effects of some of these things and in some of the, you know, being at increased risk of myocarditis and all of these other issues are things that, like, it's great that the state of Florida is doing that.
00:53:37.000 That is the kind of thing that any objective, good government would do, is you search out the truth.
00:53:44.000 You're not afraid of the truth.
00:53:45.000 You asked the questions and you followed the line to its logical conclusion.
00:53:50.000 Well, so tell us what's going on with, we've got all these stories about big tech colluding for political reasons.
00:53:57.000 You know, DNC, Democratic officials reaching out to Twitter, things like that.
00:54:01.000 But there was also information pertaining to restricting COVID.
00:54:05.000 We recently saw a tweet, I think the Hodge twins tweeted at Elon and said, like, let me guess, you saw a tweet between the government and Twitter discussing censoring COVID information and then he posted a trophy.
00:54:16.000 So what's going on with that?
00:54:17.000 You guys had something recently, right?
00:54:19.000 Yeah, so we've put out a number of things, a number of, you know...
00:54:23.000 Press releases that turn into kind of long articles folks can read through and see themselves, where we pull the documents, we get screenshots, screen grabs of the text, and let folks, you know, hey, here it is, here's so-and-so government official talking to so-and-so at this platform.
00:54:37.000 We've put a few different things out, and we're putting these things out, and we're going to continue to do it on a rolling basis, because it's the result of a lawsuit that we had to file against the government to get this data out.
00:54:46.000 And so every time we get a batch of data, we're trying to pull out there, get the highlights, you know, bring it to the folks and let the American people
00:54:53.000 see what was going on behind the scenes. So the latest thing that we have here, which is
00:54:58.000 similar to something else we had, was this back channel reporting, reporting channel at
00:55:03.000 Twitter, where government officials were able to log in and flag information that they deemed as
00:55:09.000 misinformation for Twitter employees to purge from their system. The same thing existed at Facebook from
00:55:15.000 the records that we've been able to see. We have an example of a woman who worked for the
00:55:20.000 CDC who used her personal Twitter account.
00:55:22.000 Twitter gave her, through her personal Twitter account, the ability to log in
00:55:27.000 and flag misinformation and disinformation. And they actually encouraged her to do it
00:55:31.000 because they said it was the best way to get something like that reviewed.
00:55:34.000 Which the VAT in that case being the posts and the information they determined were misinformation.
00:55:41.000 So look, that's just the top of the layer of the onion though. There's so many layers beneath it
00:55:48.000 between intergovernmental organizations, non-governmental organizations, non-profit setup.
00:55:54.000 There's a whole kind of regime that was built up around this misinformation, disinformation thing.
00:56:01.000 And they're using the government, they're using the powers of government, and they were using the powers of one of the biggest social media platforms out there to objectively define for the American people what was true and what was false.
00:56:13.000 When people from the government would flag something as misinformation, are there instances where the people at Twitter would say, no, it's not, and just ignore them?
00:56:23.000 So we haven't seen yet, and that's part of the problem, is that because these portals exist, Some of these things are never going to be disclosed from government records.
00:56:32.000 So it's great for the government actors to be able to do this because it obscures reality.
00:56:39.000 There's no record to go back and check on.
00:56:41.000 If you send an email or do something from a government computer There's going to be a record that you're going to be able to go back and check, but because they were using a private platform's software, there's not going to be a way for us to be able to determine how much they actually flagged for these companies and what the companies actually did with it.
00:56:58.000 What we do have examples of are examples of the private companies pulling down content.
00:57:04.000 So we don't have examples yet that I'm aware of that we've seen where they've ever said, oh, hey, no, sorry, you know.
00:57:11.000 We disagree with you on this, but we have seen examples of where the private platforms have said, yes, thank you.
00:57:17.000 We're happy to do that.
00:57:18.000 Can we do more for you?
00:57:20.000 What else can we do for you, government?
00:57:22.000 Just in a really shocking way that I think most Americans would find truly offensive.
00:57:27.000 Yeah, I think that there's probably a tendency for governments across the history of time to hire external organizations to do dirty work, like mercenaries, things like that.
00:57:37.000 I just don't like seeing it turned on the people themselves by having government officials use their private accounts to have undocumented communications with my social media network that I've been using.
00:57:49.000 Right.
00:57:50.000 No, I mean, it's exactly right.
00:57:51.000 It's like one of the oldest plays in the book.
00:57:53.000 And the thing about it is that, of course, the government can't do that legally.
00:57:57.000 They can't violate the First Amendment through contracting their work out to a private company to do for them.
00:58:03.000 That's against the law.
00:58:04.000 You can't do that.
00:58:05.000 So there's going to have to be some real accountability here.
00:58:08.000 Luckily, there are some things moving that hopefully will bring that, one of which being a lawsuit that was filed by the states of Missouri and Louisiana Where they're deposing folks right now.
00:58:17.000 I'm sure some of your viewers and listeners have been tracking that.
00:58:23.000 Elvis Chan was part of this lawsuit.
00:58:26.000 He was just recently deposed.
00:58:27.000 I think Jen Psaki's slated to be deposed at some point.
00:58:31.000 Actually getting people in chairs, asking them the questions about what happened, what was going on here, is going to be critical.
00:58:37.000 We'll see what happens as a result of the lawsuit.
00:58:39.000 It should shock the conscience of everyone, regardless of your perspective.
00:58:43.000 It should shock your conscience that the government would be able to do this.
00:58:47.000 Especially when you look at what they were saying was false, in a lot of cases, later became actually, hey, that wasn't false.
00:58:55.000 And so this meaning of truth, this divorced reality of what's true and what's false, is an evolving thing for the government and for the left collectively.
00:59:07.000 And it leads to a place where you can be censored as long as you're just not agreeing with what the current woke thought is.
00:59:12.000 And with COVID stuff, it was all over the place.
00:59:16.000 We all lived it.
00:59:17.000 We lived it for about two years.
00:59:18.000 Think about how crazy the legal system is in terms of perjury.
00:59:22.000 Like, what we've learned, the true extent of it.
00:59:26.000 I think perjury is a non-existent thing at this point.
00:59:29.000 Because what we have here is, you know, Mr. Dorsey, do you shadowban?
00:59:34.000 We don't.
00:59:35.000 You don't?
00:59:35.000 No.
00:59:36.000 You don't remove people without their knowledge?
00:59:38.000 We visibility filter.
00:59:40.000 So, what?
00:59:40.000 What did you say the other day?
00:59:43.000 I don't know if it was you.
00:59:44.000 It was like, did you stab this man?
00:59:46.000 No.
00:59:46.000 I placed a knife inside his body.
00:59:48.000 That was Luke.
00:59:50.000 He put his chest all around my blade.
00:59:54.000 Do you have a door to your building?
00:59:55.000 No.
00:59:56.000 We have a portal.
00:59:58.000 And there is a vertical slat of wood.
01:00:03.000 with a grip on it.
01:00:06.000 So semantic, dodging semantics is a form of perjury.
01:00:09.000 I think we can be clear about that.
01:00:10.000 Anthony Fauci said they didn't do gain-of-function.
01:00:12.000 James Clapper said he had no witting knowledge of spying on the American people, even though PRISM showed that they did.
01:00:18.000 Yep.
01:00:19.000 Right.
01:00:19.000 Yeah, we didn't do gain-of-function research.
01:00:22.000 What we did was manipulate viruses to make them more deadly and dangerous.
01:00:27.000 And transmissible to human beings.
01:00:31.000 The same exact one that just naturally got out there because someone ate a bat in China.
01:00:35.000 Rand Paul holds up the paper and he's like, it says right here that you were doing gain-of-function and he goes, no.
01:00:42.000 It says on the paper, no.
01:00:45.000 And where's Fauci?
01:00:47.000 He's on MSNBC and they're like, I can't believe Elon would say prosecute Fauci.
01:00:51.000 I can!
01:00:51.000 He lied to Congress!
01:00:53.000 Man, when it comes to this stuff, they all just lie.
01:00:57.000 We watch them lie.
01:00:58.000 We know they're lying.
01:00:59.000 They know we know they're lying.
01:01:02.000 We know they know we know they're lying.
01:01:04.000 And we're all just staring at each other like nothing will change.
01:01:08.000 People get charged for lying under oath.
01:01:10.000 People get charged for lying to Congress.
01:01:11.000 Look what happened to Oliver Stone.
01:01:13.000 He went down.
01:01:14.000 He went to jail because he lied to Congress.
01:01:17.000 Fauci could do it.
01:01:18.000 Brennan could do it.
01:01:18.000 Come on.
01:01:19.000 Let's play fair here.
01:01:21.000 Let's actually hold people accountable to what they said, to how they lied to the American people and how they screwed them over.
01:01:26.000 Oh, you're talking about Roger Stone, not Oliver Stone.
01:01:28.000 Sorry, I apologize.
01:01:29.000 Roger Stone.
01:01:31.000 Oliver Stone, great.
01:01:32.000 We should have him on the show.
01:01:33.000 Yeah, yeah, I interviewed him before, too.
01:01:35.000 I don't always agree with him.
01:01:36.000 Fascinating guy.
01:01:37.000 He interviewed Putin.
01:01:38.000 Has a lot of context specifically about Russia and Venezuela that I definitely see differently than him.
01:01:44.000 But it would be great to have him on the show and have that conversation.
01:01:47.000 But apologies for my mistake.
01:01:48.000 Yeah, Oliver, the reason we have a government for the people, by the people, is because if the people that we put in charge start lying to us, we're supposed to remove them from office and then maintain balance and honesty and integrity in our system.
01:02:01.000 Maybe the whole system has always been predicated on lies.
01:02:05.000 Maybe.
01:02:05.000 Yes.
01:02:06.000 And we just want to close our eyes and believe that they're doing the right thing when we put them in power to lie for us?
01:02:12.000 I probably, I imagine it like this.
01:02:14.000 Pre-radio, you had people who hung out in their own communities, talked to each other and trusted each other, and they did not trust, for the most part, centralized media, you know, distribution.
01:02:25.000 The printing press, relatively new, newish, before the American Revolution.
01:02:33.000 Then they started using this to put out propaganda, being like, we should be independent.
01:02:37.000 It affects people, they hear it.
01:02:39.000 But for the most part, your life is still very much, oh, I'm going to do it.
01:02:42.000 The Patriot with Mel Gibson, what a good movie.
01:02:45.000 They're in their house, and then a postal writer comes, and they're like, there's a
01:02:49.000 Whoa!
01:02:50.000 Words come from town!
01:02:52.000 And then they're like, everyone gathers around to read this one letter!
01:02:55.000 Now it's like I get 50 billion on Twitter!
01:02:57.000 But so, back then, you believed what you believed or you didn't, you saw what you saw or you didn't, and there was no centralized communication grid.
01:03:05.000 Then you got radio and TV, and all of a sudden, well, actually, even before that, you had the massive national distribution of newspapers, which started getting really, really big in the late 1800s, and then the turn of the century, everyone's now believing the papers.
01:03:17.000 Then everyone's believing the radio, then everyone's believing TV, and it's all centralized.
01:03:22.000 And it was probably all lies.
01:03:25.000 But we believed it, because that's what we were told.
01:03:28.000 Now the internet comes out, and we, once again, are decentralizing our flow of information, And we're getting into this revolutionary period, I guess.
01:03:38.000 The radio changed it all.
01:03:41.000 It did.
01:03:41.000 I remember Orson Welles did that War of the Worlds radio show, and people actually believed it was real, that aliens were attacking.
01:03:47.000 It was so believable.
01:03:49.000 On the radio, there's this new technology that went outside.
01:03:51.000 I heard that people killed themselves because they thought we were under attack by aliens.
01:03:54.000 I don't know if that's confirmed.
01:03:55.000 But then video comes along, or film.
01:03:58.000 And film allows the centralization of power for Hitler.
01:04:02.000 Like Hitler is the result of that centralization of power with that mass media mind control technique.
01:04:07.000 Now we have the internet and it's like we have both centralization and decentralization kind of at odds or coming at each other and trying to figure out the best way to have like localized, decentralized, centralized systems.
01:04:19.000 Well, this is why you end up with... Who is that woman who did the musical number about disinformation?
01:04:24.000 You know what I'm talking about?
01:04:28.000 Jenkiewicz.
01:04:28.000 Jenkiewicz?
01:04:28.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:04:29.000 This is why you get these people.
01:04:31.000 Because they know they're lying.
01:04:33.000 It's why you get people like Taylor Lorenz and Ben Collins.
01:04:35.000 They know they're lying.
01:04:36.000 Of course they do.
01:04:38.000 They know they're making up things, but they're doing it in service of the authoritarian narrative machine.
01:04:44.000 These are people who long for a world where, like Mika Brzezinski said, where she said, it's our job to tell people what to think.
01:04:54.000 She was like, Trump thinks he can tell people what to think, that's our job.
01:04:57.000 And then Snopes immediately comes out to debunk the claims that she said it when she literally said it, but that's not what she means.
01:05:02.000 What they want is, they want to go on TV and say, the sky is red.
01:05:07.000 And then have everyone be like, whatever you say, boss.
01:05:10.000 And the problem is now with the internet, we all start posting online.
01:05:14.000 Well, the sky can be red sometimes, depending on the sunset, but for the most part it's blue, so they're actually just manipulating you.
01:05:20.000 And then someone says, you're so dumb, the sky is red, it's 7 p.m.
01:05:23.000 at sunset.
01:05:23.000 It's like, dude, I know.
01:05:25.000 And then you argue.
01:05:26.000 But that argument is part of the nuance in the conversation.
01:05:28.000 They don't want.
01:05:29.000 They want to say, no, it's red, stop talking about it.
01:05:33.000 Anybody who thinks the sky is blue, report to your education center.
01:05:36.000 You've got to know that people are not, we are not built to fall in line. I mean
01:05:40.000 there's part of us that work, we're definitely community-based organisms but
01:05:44.000 we're not, like you can't force people into slavery. It doesn't make sense. It
01:05:49.000 never has worked in the history of humanity. We've always come away from it.
01:05:52.000 Well, you know, if you look at human history there's a lot of slavery.
01:05:56.000 There's a lot of war.
01:05:57.000 There's a lot of destruction.
01:05:58.000 There's people like Genghis Khan.
01:05:59.000 There's individuals that try to conquer the world and control all of it and try to have all of it for themselves.
01:06:06.000 So that's common.
01:06:07.000 That always has happened.
01:06:08.000 And for us to think that this has somehow left the human experience, I think it's foolish.
01:06:15.000 and i think there's a lot of other smarter people out there they're still
01:06:18.000 going for the same goals we just don't know about that we don't hear about them
01:06:22.000 and they're going for these larger uh... personal achievement achievements for themselves in
01:06:28.000 secret it's like that
01:06:30.000 the spirit of moses is to free the slaves and like the spirit united states
01:06:33.000 a statue of liberty is a free slave and they've But the businessmen that got the Statue of Liberty put up there didn't want to show the chains on her wrists.
01:06:40.000 They were like, no, we can't remind people that we're freed slaves.
01:06:42.000 We want them to forget.
01:06:43.000 They're on her feet, right?
01:06:44.000 Yeah, so they put the chains down at her feet where you can't see it because you're looking up at it.
01:06:48.000 But if you look at it from above, you see broken chains.
01:06:50.000 She's a freed slave.
01:06:51.000 The French understand liberty as the Americans do, but the businessmen don't.
01:06:55.000 They don't like that.
01:06:56.000 They want us to lull back into just worshiping some erudite.
01:07:00.000 They want us to think, oh, she's studied, so she's great.
01:07:03.000 No, she's great because she was a freed slave.
01:07:05.000 She will never go back.
01:07:06.000 Isn't it like everybody's related to Genghis Khan or something?
01:07:10.000 Or like some huge number?
01:07:11.000 One-seventh of the world, I think?
01:07:13.000 Because he was banging a lot of chicks, you know what I mean?
01:07:16.000 He was going around taking villages and taking the women.
01:07:18.000 I think it's like one-third in Asia.
01:07:20.000 Everybody.
01:07:21.000 I think it's like history.
01:07:22.000 We go into slavery, and then we come out of it, and then we go back into it, and we come out of it, and we're trying to remind ourselves not to go back into it.
01:07:30.000 That's the story of America, of the United States.
01:07:32.000 Do not fall back into monarchy.
01:07:34.000 Do not fall back under the subservience of one man and a corporation.
01:07:36.000 Don't do it.
01:07:37.000 It's not, you know, I don't know if monarchy is the right word, but we fall into something new we haven't yet defined, right?
01:07:42.000 So we have these words to describe things that we probably didn't describe when they were initially conceived of.
01:07:48.000 When feudalism first came into existence, there wasn't some guy who looked around and went, this is feudalism!
01:07:53.000 You know, it was it was like the way things were, and then eventually we start to define these things.
01:07:57.000 So whatever we're in now, it is not democracy.
01:08:00.000 It is not constitutional republicanism.
01:08:02.000 Something totally different.
01:08:04.000 I mean, it could just be A quasi-revolutionary state where you've got, as we've talked about on the show, a multicultural democracy trying to exist within a constitutional republic, and they're both at odds with each other, and so they're conflicted.
01:08:20.000 But it's certainly not one or the other, and you can't describe it that way.
01:08:24.000 We'll corporate technigopoly.
01:08:27.000 We'll come up with some new word for it.
01:08:30.000 Communism was a word that was coined.
01:08:32.000 Fascism was a word that was coined.
01:08:33.000 Can we make up a new word for whatever it is we're going through?
01:08:35.000 Technocracy.
01:08:38.000 Craptocracy.
01:08:39.000 Cleptocracy.
01:08:40.000 Cleptocracy is another one.
01:08:42.000 But throughout my understanding of history, I think America is a rare experiment in freedom.
01:08:48.000 And it's still one of the few countries in the world where you have the First and Second Amendment.
01:08:52.000 You don't have that in a lot of places around the world, and there are a lot of people that hate that.
01:08:57.000 Because if people could say what they want and be able to defend themselves by being able to say what they want, that is rare, from my understanding, unless someone else could prove me wrong.
01:09:06.000 And I think these are important God-given rights that need to be protected at all costs.
01:09:12.000 But let's be fair and honest with ourselves.
01:09:14.000 This latest technocratic advancement and takeover of our society is challenging that.
01:09:19.000 Especially with Joe Biden coming out saying that he's going to be making more actions against the Second Amendment, especially with tech platforms, TikTok, Facebook, Google, Alphabet, all these companies essentially doing a form of mind control.
01:09:33.000 There's a lot of, you know, freedoms that are threatened more than ever.
01:09:37.000 That's my perspective.
01:09:37.000 I don't know.
01:09:38.000 What do you think, Gene?
01:09:39.000 Look, I think y'all are onto something here.
01:09:42.000 And I think that there's also a generational aspect to consider for this.
01:09:46.000 So, you know, I don't know how old you guys are, or young you are, or whatever, but I can recall, at least when I was growing up, a sense, especially among young men, of rebellion.
01:09:57.000 It's in the heart of every young man for generations, to kind of, like, say to authority, to the authority figures, no, I'm not going to do what you tell me.
01:10:05.000 I mean, I think there was even a Lion in a Rage Against the Machine song that had something to say about that.
01:10:10.000 Yeah, but now it's, shut up, you better do what they tell you.
01:10:13.000 That's exactly what it is, and we have a generation that is complacent now, and I don't know if it's the result of the influence of the social media, at least as it existed until now, with all of these other things, but we've gotten to a place where young people are afraid to question authority. They're afraid to
01:10:13.000 Exactly!
01:10:31.000 question people as to, hey, why am I being told that I have to think this way? Why
01:10:36.000 am I being told that I have to get this, you know, why do I have to behave this way where I'm ostracized?
01:10:41.000 No one ever asks those open questions now, and I think that's, it's a real problem. I
01:10:46.000 was reading this blog about comics and superheroes a while ago, and it talked about how in the
01:10:52.000 ancient stories were of defying the authority, like stealing fire from Mount Olympus or
01:10:58.000 whatever, or Hercules fighting the, I don't know what the exact story is.
01:11:01.000 It's been a while since I read it, but it was talking about how the heroes used to challenge those in control, the gods and things like that.
01:11:07.000 And superheroes today are very much completely in line with the authority.
01:11:12.000 So, Superman, for instance.
01:11:14.000 He doesn't break the law, he's got to fight for the government.
01:11:17.000 Now, there's been nuance introduced into the comics over time, but there was this period where very much everything was, whatever the government says, goes.
01:11:26.000 And so, we went to...
01:11:28.000 Fredericksburg this past weekend.
01:11:30.000 We were hanging out with Matt Strickland over at Gourmelt's.
01:11:32.000 Shout out, Matt.
01:11:33.000 Amazing food, by the way.
01:11:34.000 And this is the business where... This all comes together in a perfect story, I gotta be honest.
01:11:38.000 This is where the government tried shutting down his business because of COVID.
01:11:42.000 He said, screw off, we're not shutting down.
01:11:44.000 Two years later, they take his liquor license from him.
01:11:47.000 And he's like, what's going on?
01:11:49.000 We got Yonkin in.
01:11:50.000 But this is a guy who is defying the machine, standing up for what he believes, and standing up for his community.
01:11:54.000 While we're down there, We, you know, we eat food, we hang out with them, we're like, this is a whole lot of fun.
01:11:59.000 And then we'd say, we're gonna go check out the city.
01:12:01.000 We go to this antique store, and I see an old comic from World War II.
01:12:06.000 It was, I think it was DC's The Unknown Soldier.
01:12:09.000 And the cover shows a bunch of children standing in front of Nazis, and the Unknown Soldiers on top of a tank pointing at them, saying, it doesn't matter that they're hiding behind children, men, we have to do it, or something like that.
01:12:22.000 And then I was like, I called Luke, I was like, dude, you gotta look at this.
01:12:25.000 World War II comic books of the good guy saying, it doesn't matter that there are children in front of these soldiers.
01:12:34.000 And if the tank is pointed at them, the artillery, and I'm like, I get it.
01:12:38.000 Like, the US was right.
01:12:41.000 Under no circumstances do you stop fighting, even if it means running kids over or shooting at them or whatever.
01:12:47.000 And that's to the extent that our heroes began to support the machine, even when they were doing things that were atrocious.
01:12:52.000 Or it's just one example that I saw.
01:12:55.000 Granted, these days, there's been a bit more nuance in superhero comics.
01:12:58.000 You now have, like, the Marvel Civil War series.
01:13:01.000 Now, I don't mean the movie.
01:13:03.000 The Superhero Registration Act comic arc was great, where, you know, you had, like, Tony Stark as a corporatist, and he's like, well, the government wants us to register, so we should.
01:13:10.000 And then Captain America, all of a sudden, defying the government, being like, I'm not for this!
01:13:14.000 That's not the American way.
01:13:15.000 That nuance was really, really great.
01:13:17.000 But I do find it interesting that when you ultimately get these people like, what is his name, Phoenix Jones.
01:13:24.000 He was that guy who was a vigilante in, what was it, Seattle?
01:13:26.000 Yeah.
01:13:27.000 You guys know?
01:13:27.000 I think so.
01:13:28.000 He ends up during the, like, the Santifa riots, helping the cops.
01:13:32.000 And they were like, you're a bad guy, you're helping the cops.
01:13:34.000 And he's like, what do you mean?
01:13:34.000 That's what superheroes do.
01:13:36.000 So it's interesting to see that we're at this point, you know, I suppose.
01:13:41.000 It's supposed to.
01:13:41.000 I mean, law and order is supposed to be good.
01:13:45.000 I tend towards neutrality when it comes to law and chaos.
01:13:49.000 I find myself like if it's good chaos, that's better than evil law.
01:13:53.000 But I tend towards law over chaos because I find that law allows the system to balance out a little bit better than chaos does.
01:13:59.000 But can chaos be good or bad?
01:14:01.000 Yeah, chaos can be good.
01:14:02.000 You can have, like, Robin Hood, for instance, would steal from, like, wealthy landowners and then give to the poor people.
01:14:07.000 They said that was a good act, but it's very chaotic to steal.
01:14:11.000 Yeah, I see what you're saying.
01:14:12.000 Robin Hood was not acting any predictable manner, and so the machine was disrupted by his actions.
01:14:18.000 But he was doing things to stop the villains to help the poor.
01:14:20.000 Exactly, and the villains were the law, which was King John, the drunken brother of King Richard, I think that's a story.
01:14:27.000 In reality, they weren't living in the same time period.
01:14:30.000 And King John, he was a lion, wasn't he?
01:14:32.000 No, his brother was the Lionheart, King Richard, but John was just an idiot.
01:14:36.000 And Robin was a fox.
01:14:38.000 Oh yeah, you're right.
01:14:39.000 Disney is history.
01:14:42.000 I personally think The Boys on Amazon Prime definitely has a better representation of what's happening behind the scenes, especially with PR and large government.
01:14:52.000 And even though it's filled with a lot of woke propaganda, I do see that more of a reality than anything else from my perspective.
01:14:59.000 I don't know.
01:14:59.000 What's your favorite dystopian nightmare that's coming true to life?
01:15:03.000 The one we're in?
01:15:04.000 I mean, it's hard.
01:15:07.000 It's hard to describe – I mean, imagine describing reality today to yourself 10 years ago.
01:15:13.000 I love it.
01:15:14.000 Right?
01:15:14.000 We do it all the time.
01:15:15.000 I mean, it's one of these things. You sit there and you think,
01:15:18.000 okay, so take yourself, go back to wherever you were 10 years ago and tell yourself,
01:15:22.000 hey, in 10 years from now, if you do so much as say, hey, in 10 years, people are going to be
01:15:30.000 having drag queens dancing in front of children, and you're going to be called a bigot if you ask
01:15:35.000 a question about it.
01:15:37.000 I think most folks around here, um, would say, well, you're, you're totally crazy.
01:15:42.000 You've lost your mind.
01:15:43.000 And so in a lot of ways, what we have seen rapidly over the last decade has descended us into kind of our own dystopian world where it's not recognizable by prior
01:15:54.000 generations of Americans who have this unifying kind of common experience, common identity,
01:16:00.000 common values that unify them as Americans. People from all over the world, people from all
01:16:05.000 over the world united behind this idea that we have this constitutional republic, we have these
01:16:09.000 societal values that we're going to uphold.
01:16:10.000 And yet, you go to where we are today, and it's because of the increase of the influence of this
01:16:16.000 woke mob that you get things where people are denying just fundamental truth, things that
01:16:22.000 everyone understood to be real for millennia.
01:16:26.000 But you are called a bigot if you dare to speak out whatever the current thinking is.
01:16:32.000 And of course, The ancillary part of that is that that is an ever-shifting and evolving target for the woke mob.
01:16:40.000 It's never enough.
01:16:41.000 You know, once they get to something that they want, they have to increase their power.
01:16:46.000 And so their targets continue to move.
01:16:48.000 And you're never going to be woke enough for them.
01:16:50.000 It's just a matter of who gets cancelled in time and who is able to keep being woke and going along with the crowd until they're called out.
01:16:58.000 Yeah, like no true Scotsman fallacy right there.
01:17:01.000 Is there any court case you're working on right now?
01:17:03.000 What would you say is the most important legal case you guys are working on right now?
01:17:07.000 So, there's a number of them that are, I think, particularly important and particularly impactful for the average American, which is something that I try to think about as we look at the cases that we bring, the things that we're going to do.
01:17:19.000 Hey, what's going to have the most positive benefit for the American people?
01:17:23.000 And so, you know, we have an active case representing a federal employee who was challenging the COVID vaccine mandate.
01:17:30.000 And again, one of these attempts to force employees to get the jab, even if they didn't want to, or even if they had COVID before.
01:17:39.000 We're active in that case.
01:17:40.000 We were part of the coalition of organizations that brought down the OSHA mandate.
01:17:46.000 We've been successful in stopping a number of Programs that discriminate against American citizens on the basis of their race, right?
01:17:55.000 And so it's it's again for us It's we look at this and we say all racism is wrong.
01:17:59.000 It's always been wrong.
01:18:00.000 It still is wrong.
01:18:01.000 It always will be wrong No one should be treated differently because of the color of their skin But you have government programs out there that are coming out like this farm loan forgiveness program that came out this restaurant revitalization program that came out Or, you know, even faculty hiring at different major universities that say, hey, you're only eligible for this if you come from this background, if you have this color of skin.
01:18:27.000 That's totally unacceptable.
01:18:29.000 Skin color should never be the basis for any kind of governmental action or any kind of private corporation action.
01:18:34.000 It should never, it shouldn't matter.
01:18:36.000 If you want to look at other things like socioeconomic conditions, you know, maybe it's a, you know, you want to provide help to the poor people in Appalachia the same way you would help someone in the inner city.
01:18:45.000 Great, fantastic, but you can't do it on the basis of race.
01:18:48.000 So we've successfully stopped a number of these programs that the administration and the Congress have rolled out, and we're proud to have done so, because again, you know, all racism's wrong.
01:18:57.000 It always will be wrong.
01:18:58.000 I remember not so long ago talking to my members on my member area.
01:19:03.000 This is about, you know, almost now two years from now, telling people, hey, if your boss comes to you and tries to force you to take a medical procedure or threaten to fire you, whatever you do, don't quit.
01:19:14.000 Let them fire you, document everything.
01:19:15.000 I got a lot of people contacting me saying, thank you for telling me this, because now they have legal cases that are going to court, and they're getting a lot of settlements.
01:19:23.000 Because, you know, discriminating against someone, extorting someone, manipulating someone to do something when there's no liability from the producers of this something, clearly brings up a lot of very important issues that a lot of people have forgotten.
01:19:37.000 And when we had these conversations about people getting discriminated against and being fired, No one brought up like, hey, we have a legal set of rules and laws here that should be followed.
01:19:46.000 Now they are.
01:19:46.000 So what was your experience, you know, in that particular realm?
01:19:50.000 And how do you see it moving forward from here?
01:19:52.000 Because there's still a lot of discrimination.
01:19:53.000 There's still a lot of craziness.
01:19:54.000 Can you fight it all?
01:19:55.000 Can we get justice for all this?
01:19:57.000 Yeah, look, I mean, it's going to depend on the nature of the employer.
01:20:00.000 Of course, the government employers are the easiest ones to target, right?
01:20:03.000 Because the government has a set of rules and restrictions that set it to a standard that's much, you know, different than what a private employer could do.
01:20:10.000 Because a private employer should have the right to be able to do, you know, more or less, with certain exceptions, what they want to do with their own workforce, you know, subject to applicable laws.
01:20:19.000 That said, I think that I am optimistic about what the future holds.
01:20:26.000 I think that for the federal civilian workforce, I think there's going to be a real good win here soon, hopefully out of the Fifth Circuit.
01:20:36.000 I don't know about our own case how that's going to do with the D.C.
01:20:39.000 Circuit, But hopefully there's something there that frees literally, I mean, look, I mean, some people might say, well, it's a bunch of government bureaucrats.
01:20:44.000 These are real people, millions of federal workers who were subjected to either, hey, you take the jab, or, you know, you'd lose your job.
01:20:52.000 And that's not a place that you want to be in.
01:20:53.000 Some of the private employers, I know there's been some good wins from some different folks across the country.
01:20:58.000 I think there's a group of folks who worked in a hospital system up north, as I recall, who recently prevailed and they got some back pay and compensatory damages, which is great.
01:21:09.000 But it's, look, it's challenging because, you know, whether it's in the nature of the COVID, you know, vaccine or whether it's in the nature of discrimination claims or anything else, there's a lot of just cross currents that discourage people from being Free to exercise their God-given liberties and rights as Americans.
01:21:30.000 Another example of the woke mob going after something is this case we recently won in Texas, where we represented a class of doctors in America who were about to be subject to a Biden administration edict that said, if you discriminate against someone on the basis of their gender identity, Then you're discriminating against them on the basis of their sex and therefore you're going to be subject to claims of discrimination.
01:21:56.000 So if you're a doctor who has a patient who comes to you and says, who is a biological male?
01:22:02.000 believes they're a woman and says, hey, I need to be treated for whatever you name the condition.
01:22:09.000 And the doctor says, no, well, you're a biological male.
01:22:11.000 I can't do that for you.
01:22:13.000 They would be subject to government investigations for discrimination.
01:22:17.000 And if found to have discriminated against someone on that basis, they lose access to federal funding, which is disastrous for any kind of doctor who's providing any kind of care.
01:22:28.000 And so we want a case on behalf of a class of all doctors in America where we've said, hey, that interpretation is unlawful.
01:22:35.000 And so these doctors are now free to go about exercising their independent medical judgment and provide the care that they think is right.
01:22:44.000 But there's all kinds of cross-currents here that are going on in American society, where the woke left is just ever-advancing, and we need more folks on the right—or in the center, for that matter—pushing back and fighting back and saying, no, this is not going to happen.
01:22:58.000 We will not stand for this.
01:23:00.000 And also, why it's not going to happen.
01:23:02.000 Because if you treat someone as a biological male, but you treat them as if they're a biological female because of their gender, they might die.
01:23:10.000 So we cannot go that route.
01:23:12.000 Right.
01:23:14.000 That's the crazy thing to me about a lot of these stories is, you know, there was a viral clip going around where this woman, she runs a non-profit, she says parents have no right to know what their kids are experiencing or going through or whatever.
01:23:28.000 And she said, because, you know, we prevent suicide, we save lives.
01:23:30.000 It's exactly what Jack Dorsey said to me about their misgendering policy.
01:23:34.000 And I was like, on the face, that made no sense.
01:23:38.000 I was like, so what about body dysmorphic disorder or whatever?
01:23:41.000 They're like, what is that?
01:23:42.000 Like somebody who feels their hand shouldn't be on their body and they want to cut it off.
01:23:45.000 Are you going to, if someone goes on Twitter and says, I'm going to go get my hand removed and we say, please don't, stop, that's wrong.
01:23:51.000 Are we going to get banned for that?
01:23:53.000 And they're like, uh, I don't know.
01:23:56.000 So I'm wondering where that comes from because it, like the point is brought up all the time, anorexia.
01:24:02.000 When someone comes out and says, I'm fat and you go, no, you're not.
01:24:05.000 That's what you're supposed to say, but if someone comes out and says, I'm in the wrong body, we're supposed to say, okay.
01:24:10.000 But only for that one issue.
01:24:12.000 Like if someone says they're an owlkin, you know, like otherkin stuff, and they say like, deep down, I am a wolf, you know, like South Park did an episode about it where it was Kyle's dad becomes a dolphin.
01:24:23.000 Like at what point do you say you've got to be who you are, you know?
01:24:27.000 Yeah yeah look I mean I again for millennia millennia people understood man woman okay great fine you know but it's only been recently and again it's really within the last 10 years or so that we have this increase of hey not only uh not only are there 67 or 72 genders or whatever the case may be these days.
01:24:50.000 Infinity. It's whatever, whatever limit you can't have.
01:24:53.000 It's also you're a bigot. You're a bigot if you reject, uh, their their
01:24:58.000 invented identity It's it's it's imposing on other people in a way that we've
01:25:03.000 never seen in our, you know, society I think but before uh, yeah, I mean insane, you know, like I I never really
01:25:09.000 cared about if somebody uses atypical pronouns in the sense that like
01:25:14.000 you know, always using Blair White as the example, but Blair, I just say she.
01:25:18.000 I mean, whatever.
01:25:19.000 I don't know.
01:25:20.000 Easy makes sense.
01:25:21.000 Ben Shapiro explained it as, if I'm going out and I'm like, hey, go sit by my friend.
01:25:26.000 I'm going to grab some food.
01:25:27.000 Where?
01:25:28.000 Over there.
01:25:28.000 That's her.
01:25:29.000 You know, he's not going to say that's him because it'd be confusing and people would be like, huh?
01:25:32.000 Because they see someone who clearly looks like a female.
01:25:36.000 But then you get into the neo-pronoun stuff.
01:25:38.000 And now you've got these people saying, like, you should call someone Zorp.
01:25:41.000 And I'm like, okay, look, man.
01:25:43.000 I can't remember that.
01:25:45.000 I'm not trying to be a dick, but I'm not saying it.
01:25:47.000 Okay, because I don't know what you're talking about.
01:25:49.000 And I can't be like, Zeep, Zorp, Zoop, Zop, Zappa, you know, for all these people.
01:25:52.000 I just can't do it.
01:25:53.000 He and she and they, I get.
01:25:55.000 And then they're like, but what about if you accidentally call a woman a man?
01:25:58.000 It's like, then I apologize, and then use the correct pronouns.
01:26:01.000 Like, if there's a burly woman, And I say, excuse me, sir, and they go, I'm a woman.
01:26:06.000 I'm like, oh, I'm sorry about that, ma'am.
01:26:08.000 It's that simple.
01:26:08.000 Like, we're not trying to be... But you can't then say, but if someone wants to go by Zares, you know, or there's like Hydrogender.
01:26:17.000 So, you know, you call them like Flube or something.
01:26:20.000 It's like, dude, I don't know that.
01:26:21.000 I'm not going to remember it.
01:26:22.000 You're the only person in the world who goes by that.
01:26:25.000 Like, the argument they make is, but if someone's name is John, would you not call them John?
01:26:29.000 And I'm like, I'd call them by their name.
01:26:31.000 But I can't remember a name and a pronoun for every single person, so it's just not gonna happen.
01:26:36.000 I think as like pronouns, or just, it's not a one-to-one comparison, but like gender, as opposed to sex, gender could be treated like a cosmetic skin in a video game.
01:26:46.000 Like, it's like, It doesn't affect the gameplay.
01:26:49.000 It's just what the character resembles.
01:26:54.000 But the thing is, gender is a psychological thing too, so it does alter the way you perceive reality.
01:26:59.000 I think it's part of why your gender is the way you perceive it.
01:27:03.000 So it's not quite cosmetic, but legally it should be treated cosmetically, I feel.
01:27:06.000 So this is the problem with also some people saying, well, I get to change my gender whenever I want, how I want.
01:27:12.000 When the government steps in, like in the United Kingdom, and says, oh, if you misgender someone, you're going to jail.
01:27:18.000 That happened in Norway, didn't it?
01:27:20.000 It happened in the United Kingdom.
01:27:21.000 I interviewed someone randomly as I was walking around in the United Kingdom.
01:27:26.000 I was doing interviews about the First Amendment in the United Kingdom, and I ran into a guy who was arrested and had to go to court because he called someone a bloke.
01:27:35.000 Let me pull this story up and we'll keep talking about it.
01:27:37.000 Not on purpose, by accident.
01:27:38.000 Let me grab this one.
01:27:39.000 From Fox News, Norwegian filmmaker faces up to three years in prison for saying men cannot be lesbians.
01:27:46.000 I can't pronounce this, but Chanyi, how would you... Chanyi.
01:27:50.000 She's not Chinese.
01:27:50.000 How do you pronounce this?
01:27:51.000 Gevjion is a lesbian filmmaker who intentionally made the comment to criticize Norway's hate speech laws.
01:27:58.000 So, three years in prison.
01:28:00.000 Luke, you want to just rehash that, retell that story for people who might just be joining?
01:28:04.000 You interviewed somebody who is...
01:28:07.000 It was a very random thing.
01:28:08.000 I was just walking around doing interviews on the street, met up a random guy, and I was like, hey, what do you think about the First Amendment?
01:28:14.000 And the guy was like, I wish I had it here.
01:28:16.000 I had to go to jail.
01:28:16.000 I had to go to court.
01:28:18.000 I was ostracized from my community.
01:28:20.000 I was facing some serious pressure from the government because I accidentally called someone a bloke in passing.
01:28:26.000 And then they called the cops on him.
01:28:27.000 The cops showed up and arrested a person for doing this.
01:28:31.000 He was very severely negatively affected in his career.
01:28:36.000 And faced a huge backlash for an accident, because he literally thought that person was a bloke.
01:28:41.000 It wasn't a bloke.
01:28:42.000 It was, it was, it was... I don't even know how to describe it.
01:28:45.000 Two famous stories.
01:28:46.000 Zuby getting suspended on Twitter for saying, okay, dude.
01:28:49.000 And Count Dankula getting arrested for posting a meme with his dog by, you know, making his girlfriend's dog do the Nazi salute.
01:28:57.000 I call people dude and man.
01:28:59.000 Like wo-man.
01:29:00.000 Man and woman.
01:29:00.000 They both have man in the word.
01:29:02.000 I'm like, hey, Hey guys, what's up everybody?
01:29:03.000 What's up dude?
01:29:04.000 Homie?
01:29:04.000 Hello?
01:29:05.000 And it's not because of their sex.
01:29:07.000 I don't care.
01:29:08.000 That's not why I'm casual with people.
01:29:10.000 Survivor did a very cringe moment.
01:29:12.000 I think it was either last season or the season before that.
01:29:15.000 He was like, I want to have a conversation with you guys.
01:29:17.000 Is it okay if I say guys?
01:29:20.000 I know for so many years I said, guys, but now I don't think it's okay.
01:29:23.000 Are you guys okay with me saying guys?
01:29:25.000 And then the whole people were like, yeah.
01:29:28.000 He said, are you guys okay with me saying guys?
01:29:30.000 I don't think he said it exactly.
01:29:31.000 Are you people okay if I say guys?
01:29:32.000 What do you mean by you people?
01:29:34.000 He was very careful with how he said it.
01:29:35.000 Exactly.
01:29:36.000 And then like three days passed and then one of the contestants like, you know what?
01:29:42.000 Mike, I think you should stop saying guys.
01:29:45.000 He's like, OK, you got it.
01:29:47.000 I respect you all.
01:29:49.000 I'm like, I was like, why is this on television?
01:29:52.000 Like they just ruined Survivor.
01:29:54.000 I used to love Survivor.
01:29:54.000 It's a cult, man.
01:29:55.000 But they just ruined it.
01:29:56.000 You know what we should do?
01:29:58.000 We got to do two things with Chaos Castle.
01:29:59.000 We got to do a skit where Ian goes back in time to warn his younger self about what's happening in the future.
01:30:04.000 But Ian's younger self, who is like a crazy, drugged out hippie, is like, dude, you must be on drugs.
01:30:09.000 Yeah, I'll be like, graphene, and you've got to talk about graphene.
01:30:11.000 I'll be like, this guy's insane.
01:30:12.000 He talks about graphene all the time.
01:30:14.000 I want nothing to do with him.
01:30:15.000 And then the other one is, take a bunch of woke people and just, you know, as a sketch, drop them in the middle of the woods and then ask them if the bears care about their pronouns.
01:30:26.000 I mean, like, my point with that is, all of these weird things they're demanding are completely meaningless.
01:30:33.000 Like, if we go to war with China, do you think, like, these soldiers, that bunch of U-boats or whatever, like, they start coming up on the shores of California, or they go into Alaska, more likely, if there's going to be an invasion, start stealing stuff, and there's going to be an American, do you think they're going to stop and be like, before we capture you, what's your pronoun?
01:30:50.000 They're going to be like, get in the box.
01:30:53.000 And your words are meaningless.
01:30:54.000 They don't care about your pronouns.
01:30:55.000 Especially if, like, we start looking for water.
01:30:57.000 Someone tweeted that out.
01:30:58.000 What if all this drama that we're going through, like, what if we run out of water for a day?
01:31:03.000 What are we going to be talking about then?
01:31:04.000 What if it's two days that we don't have water?
01:31:07.000 What's going to be the conversation on Twitter if we don't have fresh water as a species after two days?
01:31:11.000 No one's, all that's gonna be is where's the water.
01:31:13.000 Well, that's cities though, right?
01:31:15.000 Rural folk got water.
01:31:16.000 Hopefully.
01:31:17.000 Like, for one, there's a river right here.
01:31:19.000 Lots of water.
01:31:20.000 And then we have wells and natural aquifers and things like that.
01:31:23.000 So we're not running out of water.
01:31:24.000 Yeah, God forbid any kind of, you know, celestial demonization.
01:31:28.000 You know, there's always meteoroids.
01:31:30.000 Technically a meteor is something that's already entered the atmosphere.
01:31:33.000 The meteoroid is the one that's still out there.
01:31:35.000 So if you're in New York, and the flow of water stops, Yeah, no one cares what gender you are if you're thirsty.
01:31:42.000 No one cares.
01:31:42.000 It's all about survival.
01:31:45.000 Or hungry, you know?
01:31:46.000 Hunger too.
01:31:47.000 When there's no food left.
01:31:49.000 So how long does food last on average?
01:31:52.000 Like three months or something like that before all the food's basically gone?
01:31:56.000 Unrefrigerated.
01:31:56.000 Like a city?
01:31:57.000 Just like in general, there's stuff that lasts longer, but it gets eaten, and there's stuff that doesn't last as long, gets eaten.
01:32:02.000 And so I think within like a few months, probably faster than that, if the supply line to New York cut off, How long do they have in terms of the food supply in the city?
01:32:15.000 Like I'm talking about at pantries, at grocery stores.
01:32:17.000 Are they going to be eating themselves?
01:32:19.000 Well, what I'm saying is, I think it might even be a week.
01:32:23.000 All the perishable stuff is spoiled.
01:32:25.000 All the fruits and vegetables are spoiled within a week or two.
01:32:27.000 Canned goods are eaten up right after that.
01:32:29.000 So in a couple weeks, there's no food left.
01:32:31.000 There's no water.
01:32:32.000 The people who are stuck there, what are they going to do?
01:32:35.000 Yo, it's going to be like roving bands of cannibals.
01:32:37.000 I'm not even kidding.
01:32:39.000 People are going to say, I would rather not die.
01:32:41.000 And then you're going to go outside, and there's going to be a group, and they're going to rush to you, and they're going to bash you over the head, and they're going to drag your body, and that's their dinner.
01:32:47.000 Yep, long pig.
01:32:48.000 And they're not going to ask you, before we devour you, what's your pronouns?
01:32:52.000 There could be, in a chaotic situation, people will use gender to try and divide people for control and power, I would imagine.
01:32:59.000 But if it's super desperate, where like we're dying of dehydration, I don't think that anyone's going to be thinking about that stuff.
01:33:05.000 Yeah, I mean, that's literally what it is.
01:33:06.000 Like, when you mention power, it's just power.
01:33:09.000 It's being able to tell somebody else to do something for you.
01:33:11.000 It's what Jordan Peterson has been saying since, like, he came out.
01:33:14.000 This is a whole thing.
01:33:14.000 It's always been about power.
01:33:16.000 It's never been about anything else but power.
01:33:18.000 Communist tactics, man.
01:33:19.000 You find a victim class or you create one, and then you instill communism thoughts.
01:33:24.000 The state will save you.
01:33:25.000 The group can help you, can take care of you.
01:33:27.000 Just do what we say.
01:33:29.000 Just fall in line with our orders and edicts.
01:33:32.000 That's the bad guy.
01:33:33.000 Yeah.
01:33:34.000 And that's the reason you're suffering right now.
01:33:36.000 Oh, man.
01:33:37.000 Well, and the other thing about this, the other dynamic, we've been talking adults, right?
01:33:42.000 But the number of areas across the country that in my organization, America First Legal, we're seeing is where the children are being subjected to all kinds of just crazy thoughts and radical gender ideology, and it's being hidden from the parents.
01:33:59.000 Now look, I mean, there's one thing if you're an adult and you want to believe what you want to believe, but for a child, for an elementary school kid, a middle school kid, even a high schooler, like ultimately until you're an emancipated adult, Your parents have the right, the fundamental right, to bring up that child in the way that they see fit.
01:34:20.000 And we have school districts all across the country helping transition their kid because they've gotten in some social club or whatever, and not telling the parents about it.
01:34:30.000 I mean, this woke mob is really not stopping anywhere, and they're violating the most fundamental relationships you could ever imagine between a parent and a child.
01:34:40.000 Doing it under the guise of protecting the child.
01:34:44.000 Well, the parents might not be accepting of their new identity, so we have to hide it from them.
01:34:48.000 It's a culture revolution.
01:34:49.000 It's insane.
01:34:50.000 It's crazy.
01:34:52.000 So, you know, we've mentioned this before, Prager's cut flower politics, I think it's called, that you can cut the flower from its, you know, roots or whatever, and it's beautiful, and you can show it to everybody, but then it dies.
01:35:02.000 Right.
01:35:03.000 That started happening unintentionally, I think, but now what we're seeing is the weaponization of this.
01:35:09.000 The opposite of honor thy father and thy mother.
01:35:12.000 They're going to schools, they're saying, don't tell your parents, and now you've even got the White House defending this behavior, saying parents have no rights.
01:35:21.000 What's the story with the White House getting involved with this?
01:35:23.000 Well, this is just, you know, we'll get into that more in depth for the members only, I guess, but this is basically Biden saying, That what's going on with these schools is a good thing.
01:35:32.000 It's the Democratic Party saying, don't say gay.
01:35:35.000 Like, Florida comes out and says, parents have a right to know what's going on with their kids.
01:35:38.000 And they go, you hate gay people!
01:35:40.000 You know, Media Matters put out this hit piece where they're like, anti-LGBTQ slur groomer.
01:35:46.000 And I'm like, all of my posts have been about how groomers are not LGBTQ.
01:35:50.000 Why are you constantly claiming That all LGBT people, in their view, are pedophiles.
01:35:56.000 It's the weirdest thing.
01:35:58.000 It's media matters and leftist organizations trying to conflate these things.
01:36:01.000 It's, at the same time, them trying to make sure that kids are separated away from the roots.
01:36:07.000 They want to create revolutionaries.
01:36:10.000 This is why I just can't understand why I hear these conservatives be like, my kid's going to college.
01:36:15.000 I'm like, you know what, dude?
01:36:16.000 I'm not even bothering with that one.
01:36:19.000 You know what happens to your kids in college.
01:36:21.000 And they say things like, well, there's good colleges, though.
01:36:23.000 There's good colleges.
01:36:24.000 I was like, oh, yeah, sure.
01:36:25.000 Like in West Virginia, where the grade schools have genderqueer.
01:36:30.000 Where in West Virginia, the school board is woke.
01:36:33.000 And I'm not even kidding.
01:36:35.000 I'm hearing these stories out of West Virginia, and I'm like, you wouldn't think that would be happening here.
01:36:39.000 It's happening everywhere.
01:36:40.000 So these people are like, well, you know, I'm going to a good college.
01:36:42.000 It's religious, it's conservative.
01:36:43.000 Yeah, DePaul wouldn't let Ben Shapiro on the property.
01:36:46.000 So like, you know what, man?
01:36:48.000 Homeschool your kids.
01:36:49.000 Have your kids learn real skills.
01:36:52.000 They can self-teach a lot on the online.
01:36:55.000 I get it.
01:36:56.000 You want to be a doctor or a lawyer?
01:36:58.000 You need the official legal certification.
01:37:00.000 Yeah, but that should change too, in my opinion.
01:37:02.000 I don't think you need to go to school for 12 years and $300,000 in debt to learn how to do something that you could learn how to do at your own pace.
01:37:09.000 Why do they need to watch you and make sure that you paid and became part of the system?
01:37:13.000 If you can save someone's life and understand and can take the tests of medicine and can do the surgeries, why do you have to go?
01:37:21.000 I'm talking about reality.
01:37:22.000 We need doctors.
01:37:25.000 Let's evolve that system.
01:37:26.000 I feel like it's all just falling apart anyway.
01:37:29.000 But I don't think it's bad news.
01:37:31.000 A lot of people think that bringing up these things like collapse is pessimism.
01:37:35.000 It's realism, but it's also an opportunity.
01:37:37.000 It means that there's an opportunity as the woke lunatics burn down their cities and destroy everything.
01:37:43.000 You have an opportunity in your rural area to succeed, to grow your business and be self-sufficient.
01:37:48.000 Stop relying on the cities for revenue.
01:37:52.000 Make a new company.
01:37:53.000 Start a new business.
01:37:54.000 And a lot of people, it's not easy to do.
01:37:56.000 Figure it out.
01:37:57.000 I mean, literally, if you got a tree on your property, chop it down, start taking the wood and making stuff with it.
01:38:02.000 Then start selling it.
01:38:03.000 Just figure it out.
01:38:04.000 You gotta start somewhere, you know?
01:38:05.000 It's like the phoenix.
01:38:06.000 The phoenix must burn before it can be a new bird again, right?
01:38:09.000 That's right!
01:38:10.000 All right, everybody, we're gonna go to Super Chats.
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01:38:23.000 Those go live around 11 p.m.
01:38:25.000 And let's read a bunch of the Super Chats.
01:38:27.000 I know many people have been chiming in about Mr. Bocas, and I really, really do appreciate it.
01:38:34.000 So here's what happened, for those that are wondering.
01:38:38.000 I finished my 1 p.m.
01:38:40.000 segment, and then as I was putting together a story about, you know, Elon Jett and liberals fleeing the platform and everything, Mr. Bocas got up, started walking, nearly collapsed.
01:38:52.000 Allison, my girlfriend, ran over and grabbed him, and he had like drool coming from his mouth.
01:38:57.000 She brought him to his litter box, where he tried to go in, failed, and then crapped on the floor, came out, and then stumbled over, and he was in really, really bad shape.
01:39:05.000 So I was just like, there's no way I'm gonna be able to work.
01:39:08.000 Like, I'm not gonna leave him and go sit at the computer.
01:39:11.000 And so I figured what we'll do is, you know, I'll make one last, I'll make one video for him talking about what's going on and Mr. Bocas, he's the cat of the cast castle, he's appeared behind us, he's jumped on the desk, everybody loves him, he's everybody's friend.
01:39:26.000 And long story short of it is I made that video because I didn't want to not give an update and just disappear and not produce anything.
01:39:33.000 But I also felt like in 10, 20 years, I can come back to my YouTube channel, I can see that video I made, and always remember him.
01:39:42.000 And, uh, I thought that was important.
01:39:44.000 I also think, for everybody who has a pet, or any loved one, there will never be a point in my life where I look back on the final days of Mr. Bocas' life and I say, man, I'm so glad I ignored him and went and made a video complaining about Twitter.
01:39:57.000 It's just not that important in the long run.
01:39:59.000 And I'll leave you with one last story that I think is very important.
01:40:02.000 I read this on Reddit where a guy said he was sitting with his brother and his grandmother and they were looking at her photo album and she was showing him a photo of the Grand Canyon and then she paused and she was telling him like, I was here with your father and your uncle and then she froze and said, Why did I take a picture of the Grand Canyon?
01:40:20.000 I don't care about that.
01:40:21.000 I care about your father and your uncle.
01:40:23.000 And he says, from that point on, every time he would go somewhere, the photos would always be of him and his friends at the place and not of the place or the thing.
01:40:31.000 I thought that was very, very important.
01:40:33.000 But let's read some superchats.
01:40:36.000 All right.
01:40:37.000 Soundscape Underground says, you can only accept my $5 if your cat gets a Viking funeral.
01:40:41.000 To Valhalla!
01:40:42.000 Yeah, Phil.
01:40:43.000 I like that idea.
01:40:44.000 I think we should go forward with it, and let's prepare the crossbows.
01:40:48.000 I don't know about a crossbow.
01:40:48.000 I think we should get, like, a trained archer, and then we should go to the ocean, where it's safe, and, you know, give Mr. Bogus a Viking funeral.
01:40:55.000 Phil was like, yeah, and I'm like, I don't know if setting, like, a dead cat on fire is legal.
01:41:00.000 You know, like, kicking it out into a waterway or something.
01:41:02.000 But I think if we go to a private marina or something on the water, or we just go out to a totally unincorporated area, and then, you know, put a little boat under the water, I'm still, I haven't given up on bucko yet.
01:41:14.000 I think we can get him some stem cells, man.
01:41:17.000 I think we can.
01:41:20.000 I know we can.
01:41:23.000 I think regenerative medicine has come a long way.
01:41:30.000 I'm willing to do what I gotta do.
01:41:33.000 See if it works.
01:41:35.000 And if he's in a lot of pain, I'm sorry to interrupt you, ma'am.
01:41:37.000 No, no, no.
01:41:38.000 I was right there with you before I, you know, before and after I started.
01:41:41.000 I've been trying to hold it together the whole time.
01:41:43.000 We looked into stem cells.
01:41:45.000 The hospital he was at that's nearby doesn't do it.
01:41:47.000 I looked up a few videos.
01:41:49.000 The issue is there's a whole bunch of places.
01:41:51.000 There's a bunch of places, but there's not that many around the country.
01:41:55.000 There's a guy near San Diego, this doctor.
01:41:57.000 I'm going to shout him out because he does a lot of good work.
01:41:59.000 His name is Robert Harmon.
01:42:01.000 He's one of the leading veterinary stem cell doctors in the world.
01:42:05.000 Robert, if you're out there, We need you.
01:42:07.000 I don't know if Bucko's even right for it, bud.
01:42:09.000 I'm gonna contact you.
01:42:11.000 And we'll go from there.
01:42:12.000 We'll read some more of these thoughtful posts.
01:42:14.000 Really do appreciate everybody.
01:42:16.000 Sideways says, Hey bud, I'm really sorry about Bocas, but I'm glad he was able to live a more full life than he could have otherwise.
01:42:22.000 Just hope you're doing okay, Tim.
01:42:24.000 I'm doing okay.
01:42:25.000 It's just, you know, I was just, as we're building the new headquarters, we're talking like, where's, where's, where's, where's Bucko gonna go?
01:42:30.000 Where's Bocas gonna be?
01:42:32.000 And I'm like, well, we're gonna have to figure out something for him.
01:42:34.000 You know, he's here in the studio most of the time, so everybody always sees him, and he's always, you know, acting silly.
01:42:41.000 And he was supposed to be alive for another 15 years.
01:42:44.000 I mean, he's well-fed, he's well taken care of, we bring him to the vet periodically, but cats, they hide their illnesses.
01:42:50.000 And so, even when we brought him to the vet a month or so ago, they just said, well, you know, get him different food, he seems to be okay.
01:42:57.000 They didn't do the blood work.
01:42:58.000 It wasn't until he started passing out that they were like, holy crap, he's on the verge of death.
01:43:03.000 And then even then they said, we think he's got a few weeks, maybe a few months.
01:43:07.000 And then today, I mean, this is he's been eating, he's been better. He like
01:43:12.000 collapsed and could barely get up. So he's been sleeping all day.
01:43:15.000 But we'll read some more.
01:43:16.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
01:43:20.000 says, Behold, unbeknownst to the beautiful bird sunbathing on a low branch, behind it, it bounces brandishing bared claws, besieges into action.
01:43:28.000 It is the beloved baby bunny butcher Bucko, aka Mr. Bocus.
01:43:32.000 I was asking Allison, I was like, should we capture a small bird and injure it so that Bucko can kill one more time?
01:43:41.000 You know, it's kind of messed up because, like, we really care about him.
01:43:45.000 But he's just mercilessly torturing these birds.
01:43:49.000 He stabbed one.
01:43:51.000 It was bleeding.
01:43:52.000 And then he sat and watched it as it fluttered and tried to escape.
01:43:55.000 And then if it ever jumped, he would jump and whack it and knock it back to the ground.
01:43:58.000 And I'm like, this is the brutal nature of what he's doing.
01:44:01.000 And here we are mourning for him.
01:44:02.000 He's still alive, but he's basically lethargic and just sleeping all day.
01:44:06.000 So we'll see, man.
01:44:08.000 We'll see.
01:44:10.000 All right.
01:44:12.000 Jay says, have you guys heard about the idea in the UK about separating cities into 15 minute driving segments?
01:44:18.000 Sky News Australia was talking about a few days ago.
01:44:20.000 What does that mean?
01:44:21.000 Separating cities into 15 minute driving segments?
01:44:24.000 Like 15 minutes apart, I think is what they're trying to say.
01:44:27.000 Oh, I see.
01:44:28.000 So it's in one direction.
01:44:30.000 Yeah.
01:44:30.000 Yeah.
01:44:31.000 That's kind of what the UK is like already, isn't it?
01:44:33.000 Yeah.
01:44:35.000 I guess.
01:44:36.000 I mean, London is a massive spattering of people.
01:44:39.000 Right, right.
01:44:39.000 But as soon as you get outside of it and you're in the countryside, it's like, it's what it seems like, at least.
01:44:43.000 At least in my experience there, it's also.
01:44:46.000 Triton54 says, Miss Allison, if you're listening, thank you so much for your support of Tim during this difficult time.
01:44:51.000 Tim needs you just as we need him.
01:44:53.000 Godspeed, Mr. Bocas.
01:44:54.000 Matt from Joliet.
01:44:57.000 Doc Holiday says, keep your TDS in check tonight, Luke.
01:45:01.000 What?
01:45:01.000 Don't you dare!
01:45:03.000 Don't tell me what to do, one.
01:45:04.000 Number two, again, when it comes to Trump, when he did something good, I respected it, called it out.
01:45:12.000 When he did something bad, he did some bad things, he got called out for it as well.
01:45:15.000 So would anyone, you'd never put anyone above yourself, always be critical of everyone.
01:45:21.000 John Adams says, Tim, I just finished watching your tribute to Mr. Bocas.
01:45:24.000 God bless you and Bocas as he makes his way to the other side.
01:45:28.000 Really do appreciate it.
01:45:29.000 Above All asks, do I watch JoJo's Bizarre Adventure?
01:45:32.000 I don't.
01:45:33.000 You should.
01:45:34.000 Is it good?
01:45:35.000 I think it's great.
01:45:36.000 Oh, what is it about?
01:45:36.000 Um, I mean, I don't want to spoil it for you, but basically it is JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.
01:45:42.000 That's literally what it is.
01:45:42.000 Oh.
01:45:44.000 You should watch it though.
01:45:44.000 It's bizarre.
01:45:45.000 I've seen memes of it.
01:45:46.000 It's an anime.
01:45:46.000 Yeah, yeah, that's right.
01:45:47.000 It's a manga anime.
01:45:49.000 The anime is where it's at, for sure.
01:45:51.000 Fans know.
01:45:52.000 Justin DeBoer just put, uh, Super Chat 3 said, Tim, please put Mr. Bocas on one of your Times Square billboards.
01:45:57.000 That'd be cool.
01:45:58.000 I want to, um, but we'll have to see.
01:46:02.000 You know, he could make it a little while longer.
01:46:06.000 And if he does, I'm not gonna put up a, you know, memorial for him when he's still alive.
01:46:11.000 We're gonna do what we can for him.
01:46:12.000 It's brutal, man.
01:46:14.000 He's got genetic defects.
01:46:15.000 That's just it.
01:46:17.000 He's a great cat.
01:46:18.000 He's really nice to everybody.
01:46:20.000 He comes up and yells at you, but people can pick him up.
01:46:24.000 They can pet him.
01:46:25.000 You'll pick him up and he'll just flop out and let you do your thing.
01:46:27.000 And, you know, he's a good cat.
01:46:29.000 And so it's sad that he only made it to about four years old.
01:46:32.000 C'est la vie, you know?
01:46:33.000 It's life.
01:46:34.000 I'll say one more thing, too.
01:46:37.000 Obviously, it sucks.
01:46:38.000 Everybody who's lost a pet knows it's pain.
01:46:41.000 I'm not gonna equate a cat to a human life or anything like that.
01:46:45.000 There are some people who are like, dude, you gotta grow up and get over it.
01:46:48.000 And I'm like, you know, look, if I wanted to, I thought about this.
01:46:53.000 I could just zen it out, meditate on it, and then just smile and nod as Bocas's flame goes out and his energy dissipates into the universe.
01:47:03.000 But I choose to feel it.
01:47:05.000 You know, like, we're all men of action here, and I know that everybody at this table could choose to bottle it up and do what must be done, and plow ahead, because there are important jobs to be done, important work to be done.
01:47:18.000 But I think, you know, for me at least, I'm here to live the human experience, so...
01:47:23.000 You know, I'll roll with it.
01:47:25.000 Ian, you know, giving a little tears out tonight.
01:47:27.000 I'm sure you could just shut it off and be stoic and cold-faced, but I think it's good to sometimes just let that emotion out, you know what I mean?
01:47:35.000 Yeah, it's part of the healing process.
01:47:37.000 We talk about, like, how can we make people whole again?
01:47:40.000 You know, this is one way to do it.
01:47:41.000 Feel it in public, man!
01:47:44.000 All right.
01:47:46.000 Chrome Leader says, Doxxing is a Fourth Amendment issue.
01:47:50.000 Changed my mind.
01:47:51.000 Hmm.
01:47:51.000 Is it?
01:47:53.000 I mean, people's records are public.
01:47:55.000 That's the challenge.
01:47:56.000 Yeah.
01:47:57.000 The government doing it, I would agree with.
01:47:59.000 Yeah.
01:48:00.000 The Maladroit, Maladroit Mama.
01:48:03.000 Maladroit.
01:48:04.000 Maladroit.
01:48:05.000 Yeah, if you want to be correct.
01:48:06.000 Oh, yeah, I do.
01:48:07.000 I can't pronounce these words.
01:48:08.000 I'm a local experienced barista.
01:48:10.000 In WV Panhandle, who can I contact to apply an interview for the upcoming coffee shop?
01:48:15.000 Oh man, I mean, we definitely do need an experienced barista.
01:48:19.000 Probably a bunch, actually, for the new location, which should be actually set up not too long from now.
01:48:28.000 Because of the holidays, it may be January, February, but I think we could theoretically get something up and running really, really quick.
01:48:34.000 I mean, to be completely honest, we could open the front door right now with a big banner that says the name and be like, we don't got anything here yet, but you can come and sit in the chair.
01:48:42.000 I mean, I'm sure people would hang out anyway.
01:48:44.000 It's something to do.
01:48:45.000 And then we'll slowly build it up over time.
01:48:48.000 I don't know how you can kind of go to TimCast.com, and go to the About or Contact section, and then you can send an email to somebody and let them know that you super chatted on the show and mentioned you're in the area and want to be a barista, and we'll see what we can do.
01:48:48.000 I don't know.
01:49:04.000 WV, I like that.
01:49:06.000 All right.
01:49:07.000 Rhiannon Tunnel says, please tell Mr. Bocas that all the viewers of this show love him and will miss hearing about his terrorism.
01:49:13.000 Also should put him in Times Square on New Year's Eve as a tribute.
01:49:17.000 I believe we can do that.
01:49:19.000 I believe we can.
01:49:22.000 Let's get some more Super Chats.
01:49:24.000 They're all basically for Mr. Bocas.
01:49:25.000 I understand.
01:49:26.000 I had to put out a video.
01:49:31.000 Eric Miller says there's a Capcom game called Remember Me where they had port on the back of their neck and they would use it to rewrite memories to manipulate people.
01:49:41.000 Yeah, that's a crazy thought.
01:49:42.000 We get to the point where we cyberize our brains, and then you can be like, I had a really traumatic experience when I went to that event.
01:49:49.000 Whoop!
01:49:49.000 I don't remember going to that event at all!
01:49:50.000 Right.
01:49:51.000 That's why I brought up Ghost in the Shell.
01:49:52.000 It's a Ghost in the Shell, yeah, when the guy thinks he has all his memories about, like, his daughter and all this stuff.
01:49:57.000 Yeah.
01:49:58.000 You should watch it if you haven't seen it.
01:49:59.000 Yep.
01:50:01.000 Let's grab some more.
01:50:03.000 Sergeant Buck says, Alejandra Caraballo is the same activist that claimed to be responsible for getting James Lindsay banned on Twitter.
01:50:10.000 And now James Lindsay's back.
01:50:12.000 So, too bad.
01:50:14.000 But those people are all just making things up and lying.
01:50:17.000 Michelle J says, Tim, get Mr. Bocas outside some.
01:50:20.000 Even so sick.
01:50:22.000 Yeah, we're planning that.
01:50:24.000 Also, the other plan is we've been looking at a local shelter.
01:50:27.000 We want to bring in Mr. Bocus to select an heir, who will inherit the title of Bocus, and then will learn from him how to be a cat.
01:50:37.000 And then, at the very least, he is unable to reproduce because they chopped his balls off, but his ideas can be instilled in the younger cat.
01:50:46.000 And then I was explaining to Allison the importance of legacy.
01:50:49.000 Because she's just, you know, she's like, Bocas can't have kids.
01:50:52.000 That's it.
01:50:53.000 Why are you and your brother so concerned about legacy?
01:50:56.000 And I'm like, think of it this way.
01:50:58.000 There is an old WWII veteran who goes and lives in the woods, sits there with his dog, and then dies.
01:51:04.000 Then there's the old WWII veteran sitting on his porch, and a young kid comes up to him, and the old man tells him the stories of storming the beaches, of saving lives, of rescuing these women, and then that kid, inspired by those thoughts, grows up and becomes a marine captain or something, and joins the military, and then serves his country.
01:51:20.000 And that's the importance.
01:51:22.000 That Mr. Bocas will teach that little kitten some things, and those behaviors will live on forever.
01:51:29.000 It's sad to me that billions of years of evolution and cellular development, and it all ends with that one life.
01:51:37.000 Because we spay and neuter them.
01:51:38.000 But I get why we do it, I do.
01:51:40.000 That's another reason why I'm so concerned about how they're sterilizing kids, because it's like, billions of years of evolution ends with you.
01:51:48.000 Every single one of your ancestors succeeded in reproducing.
01:51:54.000 I'm not saying have 50 kids.
01:51:55.000 I mean, you can have one, you know.
01:51:58.000 I'm saying have 50.
01:51:59.000 Have 50.
01:52:00.000 Have as many as you can.
01:52:01.000 There's going to be a population crash that's going to go bad.
01:52:03.000 It's going to be bad, I'm saying.
01:52:04.000 I mean, you'll see.
01:52:06.000 You'll see decades and decades from now.
01:52:08.000 Skyler Hillman says, did Mr. Bocas support free speech, Tim?
01:52:11.000 He absolutely did.
01:52:13.000 He would yell outside the door, cheering us on, he'd come in and jump up on the table.
01:52:17.000 It is kind of crazy to think that it was like a week ago he was at the door yelling at us.
01:52:21.000 And the decline was just rapid because cats hide their illnesses.
01:52:24.000 And it was only until he was in total, like he's in stage three renal failure, he's passing out.
01:52:29.000 Where we're like, wow, and now he's just rapidly declining.
01:52:33.000 So we're giving him IV fluids, we've got medicine for him.
01:52:36.000 But I want to be careful, too, because they prescribed antibiotics, but I know antibiotics can be hard on kidneys, and his kidneys are already weak, so we don't know if he actually even needs the antibiotics.
01:52:44.000 Yeah, man, I'm so concerned when, especially in cancer patients, when they give him chemo and then the chemo kills him, and then they say it was the cancer.
01:52:50.000 Like, you've got to be so careful with delicate bodies, and just the quality of life is everything right now for Bucko.
01:52:57.000 I don't want him to be in pain, you know?
01:52:58.000 I will do anything to find a new medicine if that it's real, but at the same time, if he's in a lot of pain, you gotta let him go.
01:53:06.000 That's the thing, you know, they want us to do this IV fluid treatment.
01:53:09.000 I really did help him.
01:53:10.000 We gave him some fluids and he immediately sprang up, and so that's good.
01:53:14.000 But I'm also sitting there thinking, like, you know, if he's dying, Are we just prolonging his life for our own benefit and making him suffer longer?
01:53:22.000 Do we let him sleep and be as comfortable as he can without bothering him, without waking him up, without jamming pills down his throat?
01:53:29.000 Because I really do, you know, feel like at a certain point, the pill popper in his throat to make him eat the medicine, the needle in his back to give him the fluids, we're just making his last days worse so that we don't feel as bad, but we still feel bad as it's happening.
01:53:44.000 I bet the fluids were great for him.
01:53:45.000 Yeah, he sprang right up out all excited and he started acting normal again.
01:53:49.000 And I was thinking about it too.
01:53:51.000 It's been a couple months since he used to run up and down the hallways, like only six months ago.
01:53:56.000 And so his deterioration has been happening.
01:53:58.000 We could tell something was wrong, but it didn't seem that bad.
01:54:00.000 Yeah.
01:54:01.000 And I wish, you know, I wish we could have caught it sooner.
01:54:06.000 All right.
01:54:07.000 Gear Revision, because we're interlacing news with Bocas.
01:54:11.000 Elon wants to make Twitter a video site, but now you can't livestream newsworthy events, such as State of the Union, according to the new doxing rule.
01:54:18.000 Well, Luke makes that point.
01:54:20.000 If you're going and covering a news event and a celebrity's there, are they gonna be like, oh, you showed the real-time location of these people?
01:54:27.000 But I don't know, man.
01:54:29.000 I think there can be judgment in how it's done.
01:54:32.000 Obviously, if you're doing a broadcast, what is it?
01:54:36.000 Obviously, if you're doing a broadcast, you're not doxing someone.
01:54:38.000 Obviously, if you're posting someone's private jet information, you are.
01:54:42.000 So there's a difference.
01:54:45.000 And then bad things can happen.
01:54:47.000 Webber J says, Hey Tim, tried to watch the 4pm segment.
01:54:49.000 Lasted about 4 minutes and had to stop.
01:54:51.000 Tears started flowing.
01:54:52.000 Felt for you.
01:54:53.000 You're a good dude.
01:54:54.000 Amen.
01:54:54.000 I really appreciate it.
01:54:55.000 It was very hard to make.
01:54:57.000 But it was a combination of me being like, I hate not talking about something and putting something out.
01:55:04.000 And I always say that I just want to talk about what I feel like talking about.
01:55:07.000 And today it was Mr. Bocas.
01:55:09.000 And in 15-20 years, I'm going to be an old man, and I'm going to show my kids, I'm going to be like, take a look at this video, you know?
01:55:16.000 When they have a sad day with our pet when we're old.
01:55:20.000 You know, they're young teenagers and the dog's dying or whatever.
01:55:23.000 I'll be like, watch this video of me when I was younger.
01:55:25.000 And I think that's really great.
01:55:27.000 And he was lying on the table and we were petting him the whole time.
01:55:31.000 All right, Steamed Hams says, I love your work, Tim.
01:55:33.000 I also love how you get people from different political spheres and careers.
01:55:37.000 Is there any chance of trying to get Destiny on the show?
01:55:39.000 He, yes, is a great online debater.
01:55:41.000 We've had him on the show.
01:55:42.000 I would love to have him back on the show.
01:55:43.000 I think Destiny's great, actually.
01:55:46.000 We disagree.
01:55:46.000 It was funny when he came, I was like, Destiny, I think you and I are going to agree on basically everything.
01:55:50.000 And he was like, what?
01:55:52.000 And then we disagreed on some things like wokeness.
01:55:54.000 We disagreed on some things like crisis management, but a lot of it is, you know, disagreeing on the, on how to get to places, but agreeing on the, on the, on the end goals.
01:56:04.000 Plus, I mean, Destiny's, you know, he's, he's, I think he's like a fairly liberal guy, but he's also the guy who got suspended on Twitch for saying Kyle Rittenhouse's, the video was the clearest cut case of self-defense he's ever seen.
01:56:14.000 And they got really mad at him for that.
01:56:17.000 So he's, he's a cool dude.
01:56:18.000 We'd love to have him back on.
01:56:18.000 It'd be fun.
01:56:20.000 All right.
01:56:23.000 Corin says, thank you for your kind words when my dog passed.
01:56:26.000 May I offer the same kind words to you?
01:56:28.000 The tears shed for Bocas are a testament to his impact.
01:56:32.000 Yeah, it's not the same.
01:56:33.000 You know, we love Mr. Bocas.
01:56:35.000 I'm a dog person.
01:56:36.000 Well, shout out to Bo.
01:56:38.000 Whoever that was that tweeted you a picture of Bo a couple days ago, you responded with a heart icon.
01:56:43.000 Oh, yeah.
01:56:44.000 Bo the dog.
01:56:45.000 I'm thinking a lot about you, Bo, if you're out there.
01:56:47.000 You are out there.
01:56:48.000 Man, it's crazy, I was reading this meme and it said, to dogs, and to cats, but it was like to dogs, we are these tall beings of tremendous magical powers.
01:57:02.000 We can make images appear, we can cure diseases, we can create, we make wonderful meals and food, we can travel at ultra high speeds, and we live 10 lifetimes of a dog.
01:57:15.000 We're basically like elves.
01:57:16.000 Yeah.
01:57:17.000 Yeah.
01:57:18.000 Magic powers.
01:57:19.000 Shoot water out of tubes.
01:57:22.000 Imagine what it would be like to be, like, living in a place where these beings, they live for a thousand years, they fly around, they can do whatever, and we're just like, man, that's what it's like for dogs and cats, you know?
01:57:32.000 Let's grab this one.
01:57:33.000 What do we got?
01:57:36.000 Chris Page says banks lost trillions and must find the money before January 1st.
01:57:40.000 Then four major crypto founders have been found dead.
01:57:43.000 FTX founder is jailed.
01:57:45.000 Connection?
01:57:47.000 Maybe.
01:57:47.000 Those stories are creepy.
01:57:50.000 I feel like Sam Bankman Freed was jailed for a lot of reasons other than just the banks losing money.
01:57:56.000 He was jailed right before he was supposed to testify.
01:57:58.000 That's something strange.
01:58:00.000 That's something weird.
01:58:00.000 That's something that obviously I think stinks to high heaven.
01:58:04.000 I didn't know about that.
01:58:05.000 Yeah, he was gonna go before Congress, and then all of a sudden they're like, nope, nope, nope, arrest him!
01:58:10.000 You would want more information.
01:58:11.000 You would want, if you're a prosecutor, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, you would want him to spill the beans, be in front of a congressional committee, get as much information as you can, and then charge him.
01:58:20.000 Why would you stop his testimony?
01:58:22.000 Were they just getting testimony to see if he was guilty?
01:58:24.000 That was ammunition to, of course, you know, have a more successful case against him.
01:58:30.000 I bet they felt like they had enough.
01:58:32.000 Because the DOJ charged him.
01:58:36.000 There were three different organizations that charged him in the government.
01:58:38.000 And it was like for nine counts of fraud, all these just... I mean it was... Anyway.
01:58:45.000 Tentacled Vesicle says cats are natural anarchists.
01:58:49.000 They actually are.
01:58:50.000 Yeah.
01:58:51.000 Yep.
01:58:52.000 That's right.
01:58:53.000 Dogs are more like soldiers, you know?
01:58:58.000 Loyal, they trust you, they trust the chain of command.
01:59:00.000 Well, not all dogs, some dogs are wild, you know, and untamed, but a good dog, they trust the chain of command, you know?
01:59:07.000 And then they're there for you and you're there for them.
01:59:10.000 That's the point.
01:59:12.000 All right.
01:59:12.000 I Love Max says, I just had to put my cat Max to sleep a few days ago.
01:59:16.000 He couldn't walk and he was a hunter.
01:59:18.000 I hope Mr. Bocas can recover.
01:59:19.000 I feel your pain.
01:59:21.000 Mr. Bocas saw four doctors and they all said he can't recover and they're actually surprised he lasted this long.
01:59:28.000 And he's a strong little dude.
01:59:34.000 The cardiologist, I guess, the cardiovascular doctor, said he's got a problem with his heart that he's had clearly for a while.
01:59:40.000 It's genetic, developmental.
01:59:42.000 The emergency doctor said his kidneys are underdeveloped, so it's probably why it happened at such a young age.
01:59:49.000 The treatment for his heart problem is counter-indicated for his kidney problem, so trying to treat both It just, they harm each other.
01:59:57.000 And so they were like, basically we want to give him palliative care, hospice care to improve his quality of life in his last few days.
02:00:05.000 And she said, I'm really sorry, but I really do hope he makes it to Christmas.
02:00:10.000 So I guess the big challenge for us is we're flying on Saturday to Turning Point, USA for their AmFest to do the show on stage.
02:00:18.000 It's going to be really, really epic.
02:00:20.000 And there really are some challenges that I thought about.
02:00:22.000 So I'll wrap up with this final thought.
02:00:25.000 You know, some people have said, no, no, Tim, you know, this is the line, stay home, stay with Mr. Bocas, and I'm like, if it was a family member, perhaps.
02:00:35.000 As much as I love Mr. Bocas, I also recognize my responsibility to humanity, and not to my own selfish desires to spend time with an animal that I love.
02:00:44.000 So I do want to spend as much time as possible with him, make my tribute video for him, get him the treatment he needs, but at a certain point I have to live my life and I have to keep it my responsibilities to all of you.
02:00:55.000 And that is if we have an opportunity to spread good ideas and help people and make the world a better place and we can do it to a great degree with Turning Point in Phoenix at this massive event with 10,000 plus people, that really matters.
02:01:07.000 And I, you know, will spend as much time as I can with Mr. Bocas, and then we'll come back and hopefully, I believe we will have him for Christmas.
02:01:16.000 And it won't be the end.
02:01:17.000 I mean, they said maybe two months, so we're gonna assume two months.
02:01:21.000 But if his time comes, his time comes.
02:01:23.000 And as much as he's a cat that we love and we do, we'd be willing to spend whatever it took to save him.
02:01:29.000 We have responsibilities to humanity as well.
02:01:32.000 So, you know, I don't want to... I was thinking about if there was a sergeant or commanding officer and he's with his unit and they're in the middle of a conflict and then he finds out that someone, you know, felon got hurt and they're dying and he says, I'm gonna leave the group.
02:01:52.000 I've got to go see them.
02:01:53.000 This is more important.
02:01:54.000 Like, no, that's devastating for everybody else.
02:01:55.000 So, you can't abandon your post even, you know, So I think going to the event is important.
02:02:02.000 And also, there are a lot of people here who love him, who want to be with him as well, and will take care of him, so... It's just the hard reality.
02:02:09.000 I could shut down the next few weeks of my life because Mr. Bocas unexpectedly took a turn for the worse, or we can do our best for him, I can spend as much time with him, and then, you know, we both live our lives, so...
02:02:19.000 Yeah, I agree with you.
02:02:21.000 I thought that my own grief was selfish, and it is in a little way, but like, why is, why is me dealing with like, there's so much more out there, you listening, your grief, like, I don't want to waste your time with mine.
02:02:36.000 It's important that we grieve together.
02:02:38.000 But there's a bigger, a bigger story.
02:02:41.000 All right, everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends.
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02:03:01.000 We'll talk about that.
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02:03:08.000 Gene, you want to shout anything out?
02:03:11.000 I really appreciate the opportunity to be here, and I think you have a stellar audience.
02:03:15.000 I think you guys are really on to something, and I think there's some real opportunities for freedom-loving Americans as we progress into the future.
02:03:23.000 Right on.
02:03:24.000 Where can people find you?
02:03:25.000 What's your Twitter account?
02:03:26.000 So, you can find me at America First Legal, but it's America 1ST Legal, and also at www.aflegal.org.
02:03:35.000 So, that is where we are, that is where I am.
02:03:39.000 We post everything that we do, all of our work there, and I encourage everyone to go check it out.
02:03:45.000 It's a good time.
02:03:46.000 Gene, thank you so much for coming on.
02:03:47.000 That was a great conversation.
02:03:48.000 My website is lukeuncensored.com where I made a video about a very similar topic about how you should cherish your pets and your family.
02:03:57.000 I did a video that was titled this is how you actually help your family first and it kind of goes off the conversation that we had yesterday when it came to of course very tumultuous political conversations at the dinner table.
02:04:08.000 There's ways of achieving these conversations and getting your family on board, helping them out, and working together to be the best, strongest versions of yourselves.
02:04:16.000 Family is more important than ever.
02:04:18.000 LukeUncensored.com.
02:04:19.000 See you there for that conversation, as well as the conversation in the forum where we are giving out prizes as well.
02:04:25.000 Ian Crossan, you can follow me at iancrossan.net, but really go check out Luke's video on putting family first.
02:04:30.000 That's important.
02:04:30.000 And if you didn't see Tim talking about Bucko with Bucko and Allison, it's a, it's a, the video's worth watching.
02:04:36.000 It's a great cat.
02:04:37.000 I'm talking about you, homie.
02:04:39.000 Bucko's a good cat too.
02:04:41.000 Bye guys.
02:04:43.000 And I'd like to shout out Kellen, speaking of people that you appreciate.
02:04:47.000 Kellen PDL at Kellen PDL.
02:04:48.000 He'll be taking over for the next couple days here while I fly out to Phoenix and get everything ready for the show in Phoenix for AmFest.
02:04:55.000 It'll be fun.
02:04:56.000 It's gonna be really interesting because we're doing the show live on stage.
02:05:00.000 At TPUSA with some high-profile people who probably will say very spicy things, so I'm like, I'm ready for it.
02:05:06.000 You know, look, this is a massive event.
02:05:08.000 It is what it is.
02:05:09.000 All right, everybody, head over to TimCast.com.
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02:05:17.000 When you do, you'll also see a picture of Mr. Bocas.
02:05:19.000 He is front and center in our little talent roster.