In this week's episode, the boys discuss a new report from Project Veritas, Elon Musk's new deal with the SEC, and the controversial Jordan Peterson article. They also discuss the gas prices that are hitting 4% in the U.S.
00:00:41.000you Elon Musk has responded to the report from Project Veritas
00:01:06.000showing a Twitter senior engineer saying that the the platform is biased they
00:01:11.000do censor conservatives they don't censor the left the company is
00:01:15.000commie as F and the best part is the engineer says he works like four hours per
00:01:21.000week and just shows up when he feels like it or just takes days off
00:01:25.000I'm sure your new boss, potentially, Coming in would love to know about how you guys don't do any work.
00:01:34.000I'm willing to bet Elon's gonna go to his investors and these other, you know, stockholders and people giving loan and whatever and be like, I'm pretty sure I can save you a lot of money because these guys are getting paid to do nothing.
00:01:43.000We also have another release from Project Veritas.
00:02:02.000Of course, the other stuff with Elon Musk.
00:02:05.000Basically freezing the deal because he wants evidence of the bot's proof that's less than 5% and he's even calling the SEC informally to investigate.
00:02:15.000I gotta ask, was this guy who was saying he only works four hours a week, was he on a date?
00:02:28.000My bit on this was, you know, when I was seeing the leak.
00:02:33.000Veritas does this all the time, where they have women go on Tinder dates.
00:02:36.000There's gotta be a short film, or we gotta do a skit, where it's an engineer, you know, and she's like, tell me more.
00:02:43.000And then, you know, like someone texts him and it's like, you're being, it's a sting by Veritas, and he confronts her and he's like, Is this all I was to you?
00:02:50.000She's like, no, when it started it was, but now it's something more.
00:03:10.000Alright, we're gonna talk about news, I guess.
00:03:13.000We got Jordan Peterson getting roasted because he called, there's a fat chick on the cover of Sports Illustrated, and he said she was not beautiful and it was authoritarian.
00:03:21.000And look, I think, what did you say, you got wisdom in choosing your battles or something?
00:03:28.000Oh, yeah, I was just gonna say, I mean, yeah, pick your battles kind of thing.
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00:05:56.000So the interesting thing is one of the big stories we have is that Elon Musk announced he's voting Republican.
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00:07:26.000Elon Musk finally responds to Project Veritas sting in which Twitter engineer says all the workers there are commie as F and that they hate the billionaire Tesla boss.
00:09:30.000And I gotta tell you, Project Veritas Journalist, there's a meme where it says, if you are an engineer at Twitter and a beautiful young woman wants to know about your job, it's James O'Keefe.
00:09:46.000I think that's the easiest way to put it.
00:09:48.000It's so funny that there's no Edward Snowden-esque leaker and literally all you need to do is go put a hot chick in front of a tech nerd and it's over.
00:11:03.000Man, when it comes to this stuff, especially this culture where no one is encouraged to cultivate any self-control when it comes to sexuality, I think a lot of young men are like, OK, this could be a sting.
00:11:14.000There's a probability, but I'm just going to try anyway.
00:11:17.000Yeah, that's why no one nowadays wears condoms anymore.
00:11:20.000It's just the whistleblower equivalent of that.
00:11:23.000I wonder if we are being arrogant, and maybe this dude, what's his name?
00:12:02.000He's just always trying to shake them down for microphones.
00:12:06.000So so he's like, let's go to the beach for our date.
00:12:08.000Yeah, well, you know, we'll go swimming.
00:12:09.000Yeah Saroosh T. I gotta admit I do feel bad for a lot of these people that get get that get caught by O'Keefe because I don't think Not every single person that gets exposed as a bad guy, right?
00:12:22.000This guy is just he's a senior engineer.
00:12:24.000He's in this environment He probably doesn't know or care about what's going on culturally.
00:12:28.000He does a little bit and he's like, yeah, this is what's happening and so now He's forced to be a whistleblower, basically.
00:12:36.000But I still respect and think what James is doing is completely legitimate.
00:12:40.000I mean, it's real reporting, and if we can't hear what these people are saying and doing and we don't know what's going on in these companies, bad things happen.
00:12:45.000So this guy basically admitting everything.
00:12:49.000And he's different from a lot of what we've seen.
00:12:50.000When we've seen, like, that Google woman and she's talking about stuff, it's like, you've got people at big tech companies talking about how they set policy, how they do policy.
00:12:57.000This is a guy on a date who's like, yo, this is what my company is like.
00:14:16.000It goes on, it says, please review my previous note on how you can protect yourself and your fellow tweets from similar attempts in the future.
00:14:22.000If you think you are being targeted or have been targeted, contact blank at twitter.com redacted.
00:14:26.000For safety and privacy of those involved, we ask you do not tweet about the situation or any related issues.
00:14:32.000Please remember that we all have an obligation to protect confidential proprietary information and not discuss internal conversations, policies, or products outside of work.
00:15:14.000I'm imagining the same scenario with, like, a hot young girl talking to Mark Zuckerberg, and how he would be... He has no idea how to respond.
00:15:21.000Yeah, he would just be, like, staring at her blankly, and she's like, tell me about your work.
00:15:39.000I do always think it's stupid that people try and do these arguments where it's like, if for some reason they don't like you, they attack your manhood.
00:15:47.000Like, why is it that people on the left, who are the ones who are like traditional masculinities and a thing, and they're like, you're an incel!
00:15:54.000Well, because one thing the left... Because everyone's hypocrites.
00:15:58.000The left doesn't believe the things that they espouse.
00:16:01.000They know that conservatives are generally more sensitive to the idea of whether or not they're being considered masculine, or at least they assume that.
00:16:08.000They're constantly trying to break down gender barriers, but they think, oh, if I challenge his manhood, then I'll be able to manipulate him into doing what I want.
00:17:12.000If you have any merit to yours, go after ideas.
00:17:15.000Like anytime I was, it's like when you're fighting with your girlfriend or boyfriend and the second you realize you're wrong, you just like change the subject and panic.
00:17:22.000No, you said you were going to the last week.
00:17:35.000It's funny because you bring up relationships.
00:17:36.000There are so many different communication habits that you see predominantly on the left that would be deeply unhealthy in any kind of relationship.
00:17:43.000So for example, they assume that they know that you have some kind of like racist attitude inside of you or sexist attitude.
00:17:51.000And then they're just like trying to picket your words in some way that will justify their narrative.
00:17:55.000They like start with the conclusion that you're a bad person acting in bad faith so they can malign you.
00:18:01.000That's not how you have conversations with people.
00:18:03.000that's not how you have conversations with people, it's deeply unhealthy.
00:18:23.000So if they try and pull any stunts to rage-bait their audience and go, woo, look at us, we're culture warriors, I'm like, eh, we're not gonna fight that guy.
00:18:46.000Twitter lead client partner says woke ideology responsible for inability to profit, hmm, affirms Twitter not here to give people free speech, refuses taking Elon Musk seriously due to Asperger's making him special.
00:19:35.000So this guy... My favorite, by the way, was during that kind of slurred rant, seeing the person he was out with slowly pick up the wine glass as he's just rambling.
00:20:10.000It's an advertiser as my business is what I do every day and why I go out is like we want it to be as fair and transparent and accurate as possible and if that means there's a level of censorship to make it Correct, quote-unquote, again.
00:22:29.000By the way, this is the fault of those dating coaches who are telling people to repeat every incriminating thing about themselves on their first date with a stranger.
00:22:40.000No, because I've definitely done that on First Dates, where I was just like, sit down and let me tell you a tale of a website called Jezebel.
00:28:26.000Like, we get like a small, young woman sitting in front of the guy, and he goes, wait a minute, and when he grabs her hair and pulls it down, it's just a full, like, six foot tall James O'Keefe in a suit.
00:28:35.000This is like the Twitter version of To Catch a Predator, where every time they're like, I'm gonna get away, you're not from that crazy MSNBC show, and then Chris Hansen, what, we do that with James O'Keefe, like, why don't you have a seat?
00:29:46.000Do you think that Veritas has like a dossier on the Twitter employees and so they send out like a young dude to this bar and they're like, your target is this man when he pulls up the photograph and he's like, I'm gonna go on a date.
00:29:58.000This is his type, like looked up like exes on Facebook and stuff.
00:31:50.000Newsweek says they're not sure if it's the midterms of the 2024 presidential election, which is a weird thing to add considering he said the next election, which is literally the midterms, but sure, whatever.
00:31:58.000Elon Musk has continually been posting memes about either the left losing the middle, the left going too far left, or of him being like, yo, I'm a moderate and this doesn't speak to me and things like that.
00:32:07.000It's interesting now, I tweeted, maybe the left should stop and reflect on why they're losing so many people.
00:32:44.000Four years ago, Republican, when he was already, when he's still a billionaire.
00:32:47.000I've seen everyone from my broke jiu-jitsu friends to people who have health podcasts over COVID, over Trump because of the Twitter wokeness, slowly go more and more to the right.
00:33:01.000You know, people wanted me to go sort of like full right-wing actual grifter after my cancellation happened.
00:33:12.000And so when I talk about this stuff, I'm actually talking about it from the left.
00:33:15.000I, as someone who is still fairly liberal, sees the left being pushed farther and farther away because it wasn't Republicans who were shutting down their businesses or gyms over COVID.
00:33:27.000It wasn't, you know, I have friends who, they're professional athletes.
00:33:31.000And suddenly it was Donald Trump saying to go outside and exercise and Democrats saying, if you go for a walk, you're going to, you know, kill your aunt or whatever.
00:33:38.000All the wokeness, all my comedy friends who love Dave Chappelle, and even if they don't agree with everything Dave Chappelle says, suddenly it's the left trying to censor their favorite comedians.
00:33:50.000God, when I was watching Chappelle in New York, he was going after Bush, going after the war in Iraq, talking about the war on drugs.
00:34:00.000I'm watching these people go from disenfranchised, I'm sick of the left, I guess I'm not really a democrat, maybe I'm independent, to a lot of them just going, you know what?
00:34:11.000I did a show in Houston and there were these three little goth kids in the front row and they were tattooed and they were like 21 or something and I asked them, I thought they were super liberal, I'm like, what's it like being liberal in Houston?
00:35:05.000I gotta tell you, uh, so, so, uh, it was six months ago that I was a hardcore socialist, uh, authoritarian, uh, uh, you know, just absolutely.
00:35:15.000And, um, I wore, I wore, uh, uniforms every day.
00:35:18.000And then Charlie Kirk smiled at me and I was just like a bolt of lightning.
00:36:03.000I'm probably pronouncing your name wrong Hugo He did a thing called rap news and rap news six is about cable gate with Julian Assange in this in this video and Hell yeah.
00:36:13.000defending the release of effectively defending the release of the cables from WikiLeaks
00:36:18.000criticizing Hillary Clinton as the secret Terry keeping secrets in the public and threatening
00:36:23.000to prosecute Assange because Australia is in the American empire and they control the stuff
00:36:28.000Alex Jones is in it screaming that the globalist not a commie Nazi fascists are coming. Hell yeah.
00:36:34.000So so that depiction of of Jones is is the 10 years ago when he was like the government is evil
00:36:39.000and they're trying to take over now they're claiming he is a Nazi he says in the end they're
00:36:43.000trying to turn back the clock on freedom of speech and And so I'm like, if you praise Julian Assange, say that they're trying to turn back the clock on freedom of speech, say Hillary Clinton is bad or wrong, and depict Alex Jones as someone fighting Nazis, you are right-wing.
00:36:57.000But that video was progressive left in 2010.
00:37:00.000Now, of course, you could say, well, that's just what happens.
00:37:03.000Conservatives, you know, people who are progressive, eventually the whole society, culture shifts left.
00:37:08.000And I'm like, no, no, no, no, hold on there a minute.
00:38:10.000I feel like, wow, I guess I'm gonna vote for this guy.
00:38:13.000But even Vox.com said Trump was moderate.
00:38:15.000And I still, that was back in 2016, and I still was like, eh, I'm not gonna play this game.
00:38:19.000But now, let's throw it back to what we had last night when Matt Bender was here.
00:38:25.000I'm traditionally, like my political position is that of like a 2012 liberal Democrat, you know, probably not, I wouldn't even call it moderate or centrist.
00:38:34.000And the argument the left says is, if you have stayed the same place from where you were 10 years ago, then of course today you're conservative because the younger generation is more progressive and that's what happens.
00:40:16.000You know, and not to be too earnest, but the bummer of that is when I'm talking to someone, I mean, Lydia and I were talking about abortion, because that's how I small talk, before we went on air, like downstairs.
00:40:31.000That's my first Tinder date as I'm speaking into someone's microphone, is when you have someone who is even moderately on your side, That is the time, instead of looking to pick them apart for Twitter or whatever, that's the time to actually talk about compromise.
00:40:51.000So like, Lydia and I were talking about, and me and her are pretty far apart on this issue, but we were talking about things we agreed with, like things that kids should be taught, like access to contraception or sex ed or, you know, whatever.
00:41:08.000If one side just goes, you want to kill women, and the other side just goes, you want to kill babies, it's like, well, there's not a ton of middle ground there.
00:41:15.000But if you find someone who goes, you know, I'm pro-life, but yeah, in the case of rape and incest, like I'm torn, that's your opportunity to have a conversation with them.
00:41:24.000If you have someone who goes, I'm pro-choice, but having an abortion like, man, like six months in, like, That seems kind of rough, right?
00:41:30.000That's your chance for a pro-life person to have a conversation, and then you guys are talking, and then you can actually come up with some sort of, well, how do we stop unwanted pregnancies?
00:41:42.000Or, well, I think there's a couple things, not necessarily just like stopping unwanted pregnancies.
00:41:47.000Like, how do we find a home for children whose mothers didn't plan the pregnancy?
00:41:52.000And then also, because one thing I would disagree with is, so I don't believe in any exceptions, but Tim and I have conversations about it pretty frequently.
00:41:59.000I do think the conversation can be open, but there has to be a belief that you can reason with the person.
00:42:35.000And then, because just the other day we pulled up the CDC definition, which literally says, an abortion is a termination of a pregnancy that does not result in a live birth.
00:42:43.000Meaning, if you would legalize abortion, post-viability, due to the pregnancy causing a risk to the pregnant patient's health, as the law read, you would be saying, terminate the pregnancy and not result in a live birth.
00:42:59.000Why do that when you can just... I know, I don't want to get into the issue.
00:43:03.000I want to just make the point that that was sort of like a realization for me.
00:43:07.000So anyway, I want to stick it back to the politics because otherwise we'll just talk about abortion forever.
00:43:13.000It was fascinating that, you know, Matt Bender is a modern leftist or, you know, progressive, whatever you want to call it.
00:43:44.000I read the bill from Colorado, which outright says there—get this—the Colorado bill not only says there can be no restrictions, it says a fetus, embryo, or fertilized egg has no rights under state law.
00:43:57.000It gets crazier and it goes back further than people realize.
00:44:00.000In the early 2000s, Obama as a senator voted against the Born Alive Act.
00:44:08.000Would you say that that is the extreme version, just like these things being floated right now about making miscarriages a crime or birth control a crime?
00:44:20.000Would that be the extreme on the other end, or would you not equate the two?
00:44:25.000Well, I don't know anyone who's saying a miscarriage should be a crime. I haven't heard anyone argue that.
00:46:19.000And I think again, if, if people were willing to go, I don't know, or if someone, if
00:46:25.000If pro-life people, instead of just, we're so used to, we have to defend our stuff, we're on Twitter, we're on the news, we have to stick to our talking point.
00:46:34.000If you can take a second to go, man, like even you said you're not for abortion in any cases, but to take that second to go, dude, I don't know what it would be like to be a woman who was raped and to have to give that baby the term.
00:46:55.000And then we can disagree and then we can talk, but probably if we're both showing empathy, we can go, okay, this person's actually a decent human who you're doing what you think is right, right?
00:47:03.000If you think you're saving babies, then I must look like a monster, right?
00:47:06.000If I think I'm saving women, vice versa.
00:50:07.000I could have made money and needed money and I didn't want to be a, you know, center-right version of the pretentious liberal that I was because that's what got me in trouble.
00:50:17.000It was being a self-righteous, loud liberal, then I have an affair and they go, ha ha ha, you're not perfect.
00:50:23.000Any comic on stage who did what I did, who talked about it, especially talked about it with like regret, like, yeah, I wish I didn't do it.
00:51:00.000I mean, there was a line in the Jezebel article written about me where it said a girl, a girl that I slept with, sorry, a woman, um, that I slept with.
00:51:50.000Every relationship I've had... Try explaining to elderly, conservative parents of your girlfriend what the MeToo movement is.
00:51:57.000Or what an open relationship... Like, there's just weird stuff that will haunt you Always.
00:52:03.000But I do feel like if you're meeting your girlfriend's conservative parents for the first time, and you want to explain to them cancellation, you can be like, a bunch of libs were lying about trying to cancel me.
00:53:34.000Because I was moderate on gun control.
00:53:36.000Now I'm basically a two-way absolutist, and I've even argued the Constitution guarantees the right of an individual to have nuclear weapons.
00:54:20.000And so there were a lot of changes that happened.
00:54:24.000Trump being OK with gay marriage was You know how a lot of people were like, OK, like this is this is Obama and Clinton weren't OK with it.
00:55:17.000Well, I can't remember who made this point, but it was one of our guests.
00:55:20.000And they said, do you think anyone who was in a coma for 10 years and then woke up today would go, Oh my gosh, things have gotten so far to the right.
00:55:28.000Like, do you think they'd read the newspaper and see current events and go, Oh my goodness, this country is so conservative now.
00:55:32.000I, I have, uh, I'll try and keep as much information private as possible, but there are certain individuals of moderate prominence who were, let's just say, indisposed for a few years during the Trump administration.
00:55:46.000And when they came out, they were politically homeless and confused because the left was not the left anymore.
00:55:52.000So I used to hang out with a ton of people in the hacker community back pre-Occupy Wall Street.
00:55:58.000Can they help my Google search if they're listening to this?
00:56:03.000These are like reputation management firms these days and all this stuff.
00:56:07.000So my hacker friends were pro-free speech, pro-edgy comedy.
00:56:11.000They were very, very into super offensive internet posts, trolling, goatee stuff, shock content, lemon party, all those really awful things.
00:56:25.000Tell the kids about it and tell them don't look so there there are certain people like they'll pay the price Certain hackers who end up going to prison.
00:56:33.000Yeah with a limited access to news and the internet culture Yeah, they come out and then all of a sudden they're like, all right Where's the left and they're like we don't like free speech anymore and they're like what?
00:56:46.000And like all the things you used to say and do that we were friends with you for if you do now We will punish you I mean, Louis J. Gomez, the Legion of Skanks guys were called Proud Boys.
00:57:12.000But now, yeah, your friends get out of jail.
00:57:14.000And Ben Shapiro is the only one defending Dave Chappelle, where the right has suddenly taken on Dave Chappelle.
00:57:20.000and the left is it's just again isolating and alienating comedy fans now i will say on the other side and i think this doesn't have to do with left or right it's just tribalism in general i remember something that really disappointed me Was I went on a bunch of right wing shows and I stayed liberal.
00:58:04.000So I get like hundreds of new followers and a bunch of people saying the equivalent of, I don't agree with you, but I like that you're trying to bring people together, blah, blah, blah.
00:58:14.000Then George Floyd gets killed and I start posting A bunch of don't kill black people.
00:59:37.000Yeah, do you think a lot of it's just Twitter in general?
00:59:40.000Because when I meet liberal people at the gym, or on a date, or conservative people, I think actually more people than we think feel the exact same way we're talking.
00:59:51.000You just get the lunatics on both sides on Twitter.
00:59:53.000No, they're just trying to get info out of you because they work for Veritas.
01:00:18.000You see two little boys with an adult woman and she's got two little boys with her.
01:00:21.000One's just drenched in dirt and chocolate and ice cream and he's all messy looking.
01:00:26.000The other kid is perfect and clean with a smile on his face.
01:00:30.000And from the outset you say, okay, that kid is a disaster.
01:00:34.000He's messy and that other kid is clean and responsible.
01:00:37.000But the reality is, the mother just doesn't let the clean kid have ice cream.
01:00:42.000So the kid who's allowed to have ice cream makes a mess, and the kid who's not allowed to have it doesn't have the opportunity to make a mess.
01:00:48.000When Twitter started suspending bad voices, or voices they thought were bad on the right, they were making it so that the most prominent conservative people on Twitter were Ben Shapiro.
01:00:58.000You know, a practical, logical, moderate conservative guy.
01:01:02.000Or I should say, traditional conservative.
01:01:05.000And then the left is antifa saying burn it down and threatening death.
01:01:09.000So a regular person goes on and says, Oh, that's a little too much.
01:01:12.000This, this, this allows Twitter, allowing the left to say and do crazy things, radicalizes people.
01:01:18.000It generates, it charges up the engine, but people on the right are like, I don't want to get banned.
01:01:27.000And the left is running amok, smashing windows and looking stupid.
01:01:30.000Which is so funny because whenever my argument for when people would equate the extremes on both sides is I was like, oh, what, the left wants you to have like too much health care or wants to end all the war.
01:01:41.000But yeah, when you start advocating violence, it's like, well, no, that's that's who we're talking about.
01:02:05.000I mean, policy wise, I think I would not compare universal health care to bombing Iraq and But then again, you have Democrats who are also droning wet
01:02:15.000every Democrat voted to fund one of the largest war packages in history
01:02:19.000If you crank the rest, oh, it's like what six times what anyone else in Europe has paid we put in 54 billion dollars
01:02:25.000Every Democrat even the squad. Yeah, so, you know man that that is
01:02:30.000It's funny when we have a debate or argument with you know Matt on abortion and I'm like this has never been a really
01:02:36.000big issue for me because for one I'm not a woman I I'm not a legal, moral, theological scholar.
01:02:43.000I had a conversation with Glenn Beck and ultimately I ended with like, man, I really just don't know.
01:02:49.000I just feel like there's a barrier for me and I can't really... I don't have the answers.
01:02:57.000This one's always been very clear-cut for me, and I know a decent amount about what we do, why we do it, why we want to enforce the petrodollar.
01:03:05.000I bring up all the time the Qatar Turkey pipeline, Gazprom, all this stuff, and I'm like, it is bad that we are doing these things.
01:03:12.000If you can go from being, you're like, I'm on the left, and I'm like, okay, and you're the anti-war party.
01:03:35.000Democrats are pro war and half the Republicans are pro war.
01:03:37.000I mean I discovered this I got in a lot of trouble the one time and only time I went on the Conan O'Brien show because I talked all about drone strikes but I did not talk all about drone strikes under Bush.
01:03:49.000Bush is when I started talking about war but Obama was still using drones so it was under Obama.
01:03:56.000And it was me and Kobe Bryant were the only other guests.
01:03:59.000So not exactly like my audience tuning in.
01:04:02.000And if you watch the clip, the clip's probably still on YouTube.
01:04:26.000But the fact that there's such cognitive dissonance and not only will suddenly they be pro-war, But then they're just getting defensive and they're acting like you're a monster for criticizing Biden or that Susan Sarandon's the reason Roe v. Wade's being overturned.
01:06:03.000I gotta I gotta look I gotta I gotta throw back to this one because while we're doing the show he responded to Benny Johnson who tweeted about the guy saying wokeness hurt cost that money and he made the like What is it like a depressed sad face?
01:06:35.000These videos coming out right now, I believe, I'm not a lawyer, but it sounds like it could give Elon Musk an actual legal argument as to negotiating a lower price, or even having the contract be broken, no fee.
01:06:52.000So if Elon breaks the Twitter buyout contract, he's gotta pay a billion dollars.
01:06:57.000If Twitter breaks the contract, they gotta pay him a billion dollars.
01:07:00.000With these videos coming out, Elon's clearly seen them both, He can probably go to a court and say, they did not disclose to me these things.
01:07:10.000Elon's kind of made Twitter fun again.
01:07:24.000But if you are really going to look me in the eye and say when the Democratic debate was going on and Trump just tweeted, Boring, and all that.
01:07:32.000That wasn't the funniest thing in the world.
01:09:35.000All right, well, time to do some research on old James O'Keefe when I get home.
01:09:39.000Literally, the skit would be literally everything he does is a sting.
01:09:42.000So he's at like a supermarket and he's like looking shifty-eyed as he like grabs a box of Lucky Charms and like puts in his... Why Lucky Charms, huh?
01:10:07.000Elon Musk is criticizing Joe Biden and I don't, I don't, I don't know what else to say other than he's, uh, I, I won.
01:10:14.000Well, I was going to say something, um, back to what you were asking me with the cancellation and, I also do wonder if Elon with the I'm gonna vote Republican is either trolling, because you don't know who you're voting for, there are horrible Republicans, or there's also part where
01:10:33.000I remember when I did start to go on the right wing shows and, you know, five people on Twitter were like, Oh, here we go.
01:10:51.000And then I did watch a Ben Shapiro video and I was like, ah, damn it.
01:10:57.000But he did destroy you yeah, you're like I got destroyed is that for me Do I have what you were GOP curious?
01:11:06.000I was Europe you like turn the lights real low you got under the covers you put on bench up here like that's literally I mean the first time I heard Jordan Peterson I thought he was just gonna be screaming to kill trans people and I was like, okay Okay, my heart was racing.
01:11:21.000I was I'm gonna watch the Rogan and he was like make your bed And I was like, I should make my bed.
01:11:24.000He's like, I don't like large women But I I also remember having this moment and maybe this sounds pathetic but whatever when I walked into some of those offices and having And this was, you know, I had girlfriends, but I hadn't really jumped back into a social circle.
01:12:33.000They care about the homeless because they have to move them to gentrify the black parts of town to get more Starbucks and maca cafes or whatever.
01:15:13.000Occupy Wall Street segregated people based on race.
01:15:16.000You're in the caucus voting system where they would be like, okay, everyone got a working group or a caucus.
01:15:22.000Your working group was the work you did.
01:15:23.000The caucus was your race or gender or identity or whatever.
01:15:27.000They had the Black Caucus, the Asian Caucus, Latino Caucus.
01:15:30.000So you literally were voting on resources based on your racial group.
01:15:33.000Well, and I remember even With Ferguson and some of the Black Lives Matter protests, there were also black people stopping other, I mean, a lot of times white BLM marchers from vandalizing or from, and it should show you that if you are on the right and think everyone who has marched for Black Lives Matter is evil, no, there are really good people who would do the exact same thing.
01:15:58.000If you think that there are proud boys who are all violent, no, there are people who will do, The right thing.
01:16:03.000And again, if those voices were the ones that would be highlighted more instead of the fringes, we would actually probably agree on more than we think we would.
01:16:13.000We'll do a ridiculous segue and we'll talk about Dr. Peterson.
01:17:49.000There was a big row in the UK because there was an ad that was put up that said the number, I think it was like the number one cause or like number two cause of cancer or something.
01:18:19.000But also it's like the fact that the argument went from don't sexually objectify women to like, make sure you're more inclusive with your sexual objectification.
01:18:30.000That's literally where the left went like no the larger women should be objectified as well my favorite
01:18:34.000My favorite part of the day was after you tweeted that imagining all my old liberal friends being like oh no
01:18:42.000Do I be mad at Tim pool or Jordan Peterson?
01:18:44.000Pick a side just heads exploding everywhere. You know you know it's funny. It's how it works on Twitter as if
01:18:51.000They they don't see the things I tweet unless someone screen grabs it and the only reason they'll screen grab it
01:18:57.000is if they can Mock it sure so when there are tweets where I'm just like
01:19:00.000yeah I let let you know some people like fat chicks like so
01:19:03.000funny. Let them have their day You know I mean, I was just like I'm not look
01:19:07.000Say encouraging it saying it's healthy partly They're partly encouraging it.
01:19:13.000They're putting on the cover of magazines.
01:19:15.000But I'm also just like, I'm not too concerned about them showing a morbidly obese woman on the cover of Sports Illustrated, but I do have questions.
01:19:24.000And so, the one thing I would say is, if Jordan Peterson criticized it, Yeah.
01:19:31.000be total agreement and we were talking about it. What he said was authoritarian tolerance,
01:19:35.000not beautiful. It was like taking a sledgehammer to a wood nail or something.
01:19:41.000And then it was so easy because then everyone just started posting sad pictures of Jordan
01:19:45.000Peterson. I was saying, I mean, he could have just maybe texted a slightly cuter member
01:19:51.000of the intellectual dark web, just shot Sam Harris and be like, hey, can you post this?
01:19:55.000Sam's got dreamy eyes. I don't know. I mean, I agree with you on the health thing. I don't
01:20:01.000know. When I taught you jiu jitsu, I've I've had a lot of people come to me because they
01:20:07.000were overweight and they were really sad about it and they were embarrassed about it. And
01:20:11.000I haven't talked about this publicly recently.
01:20:15.000I wrote about it like a decade ago, but I've struggled with binge eating.
01:20:18.000I mean, you would call it an eating disorder.
01:20:19.000If it was a woman, you would say, I have an eating disorder.
01:20:22.000Food issues are hard, man, and at the times I've been overweight, I've hated myself, and I still have body dysmorphia even though I train every day.
01:20:31.000And, but what you're saying about health is so important.
01:20:35.000Number one, if you just, quote unquote, if you actually fat shame people, not what the left say is fat shaming.
01:20:41.000If you actually fat shame people, that's not going to help them.
01:20:43.000If I see someone down the street, I'm like, Hey fatty or whatever.
01:25:45.000If you're in a business, and you're like, we want to sell soap to women, and we also want to sell ice cream, but all these super thin models are making people not want to buy ice cream, put the fat women in the soap commercial, and the women will be like, that's like me, and they'll eat ice cream.
01:25:58.000And then Sports Illustrated will have ice cream eating contests in their magazine.
01:26:01.000What I mean is, if the average woman is obese, then Sports Illustrated is going to start putting more and more obese women on the cover.
01:26:09.000So with the body positivity thing, I want to sort of piggyback on something Lydia said.
01:26:14.000I actually, I don't agree with the idea that beauty is subjective.
01:26:44.000Is not limited to their physical appearance and someone shouldn't be treated poorly because they don't look good And so instead they decided to say actually Everyone looks good wait when what did that do that solidified this idea that actually?
01:26:57.000Appearance is what gives you your value because we if we tell you you don't look good Then we are telling you you're worthless because that's what we believe so we just have to instead of Challenging our understanding of what beauty means we have to say no no everyone's beautiful that way we can say everyone means something instead Instead of acknowledging that, beauty is not the only measure of a person's value.
01:27:39.000And also the times, even when I've been struggling, whether it's with depression, suicidal ideation, binge eating, whatever it is, the times where someone actually made me feel good about myself is when I would lock in and want to double down.
01:28:25.000I failed gym class, literally failed gym class in high school.
01:28:28.000I'll tell you how you get stoned every day and pretend you don't have your shorts.
01:28:32.000And then I found Jiu Jitsu at 17 and I was like, I always wanted to learn how to fight because I grew up watching cheesy martial arts movies and I fell in love with Jiu Jitsu and accidentally became an athlete because I found something I loved.
01:29:53.000But I don't feel well and I get depressed and I sleep later, which means I don't go to the gym.
01:29:59.000And the times where I'm training and the times where I'm eating healthy, I feel good and you want people to feel good and again it's you don't have to say not beautiful but man you can also encourage people to be healthy because you want them to feel good you don't want them to be depressed the times I'm eating like crap the times I'm overweight it absolutely ties into my depression it's horrible
01:30:25.000Yeah, well, and no one really openly says this, right?
01:30:29.000They'll just apply this principle to different categories all the time and hope you don't notice, but there's this weird pervasive idea that like everyone is equal in every single way, so no one's smarter than anyone else, no one's more beautiful than anyone else, no one's stronger than anyone else, and it's just not true.
01:30:45.000Now, again, what we should be promoting, and this is certainly what I believe, is that, you know, humans are made in the image and likeness of God.
01:30:50.000Every single person has unfathomable value.
01:30:54.000But instead, because we have limited people's value to what they bring to us instead of what they are solely, I'm not caught up in the news.
01:31:04.000as full persons in order to compensate for that we have to say okay well yeah people
01:31:08.000really are just their physical makeup and they don't have any intrinsic value besides
01:31:14.000these specific things we decide to assign value to but they're all equal in those categories
01:31:31.000Yeah, I was saying like I'm eating an exorbitant amount.
01:31:34.000How are you not dead eating eight pizzas?
01:31:36.000But no if but I will tell you it's like not every day but days before and sometimes after it would be excess of 3,000 calories and like Yo, if I train twice a day, I'm murdering.
01:31:50.000So breakfast with like, um, meat, potatoes, uh, eggs, toast.
01:31:56.000You're looking at like, you know, 800 with a glass of orange juice or a thousand.
01:32:00.000Then you, then you've got lunch, which was a couple of sandwiches and look at another six, 700 for dinner.
01:32:06.000You get Panda Express, double orange chicken with a big thing of rice.
01:32:09.000It's like three to 5,000, depending on what you're eating.
01:32:11.000Some days we'd get like, we get Panda Express three times.
01:32:15.000Seriously, skating for eight hours a day, drenched in sweat?
01:32:20.000No, a lot of my pro-athlete friends can eat garbage.
01:32:23.000Like, there's a jiu-jitsu fighter who is famous for trying to get a Panda Express sponsorship.
01:32:28.000There's another one who only eats In-N-Out and Five Guys and stuff, and they look great and ripped and shredded, but I'm sure the inside of their body is dying.
01:32:36.000Which, by the way, It's, you could put that dude on the cover of Sports Illustrated and he'd look great.
01:32:41.000There's like the whole skinny fat thing.
01:33:36.000Let me make you feel comfortable, blah, blah, blah.
01:33:38.000And I just told him, I told him I wasn't athletic and jiu-jitsu's what made, all the stuff I said to you guys.
01:33:43.000And it's like, I'm so hyped to help this dude.
01:33:46.000And you know, a lot of people who are overweight, they just kind of silently suffer and they hate themselves and they feel and again, I've been there on a million different levels.
01:33:56.000And I don't think this stuff is helping them.
01:33:59.000Again, I think the Sports Illustrated thing is harmless, but I think all that stuff that said like healthy is just like liable.
01:34:29.000Jordan, he tweeted that he's, like, had his staff change his password, he's getting away from temptation, getting off Twitter because it's toxic, and the barrage of insults.
01:34:36.000And I'm just, I just, I'm confused by that.
01:36:38.000He said... I forgot what he said, but he said, I have... I'm gonna paraphrase, but something like, I have stared into the eyes of the beast and nothing scares me more than this monster.
01:36:47.000And it was a screen grab of Vosh trending.
01:37:36.000You also always had, because I realize one of the reasons that I'm so confident right now is because of the, I have a solid community for the first time in my life.
01:37:44.000In Texas, in Jiu Jitsu, in comedy, where I have, my favorite comics are my friends.
01:37:54.000Um, my jujitsu community, if people say untrue things about me in jujitsu, unlike my old friends who were like, well, I can't tweet about Jamie.
01:38:01.000I don't want to lose my free internship at the nation.
01:38:04.000It's like these jujitsu guys, they don't care at all.
01:38:06.000They're like, yo, we will go to war for you.
01:38:11.000I will give you my lawyer, like literally doing things like that.
01:38:14.000And so that's what I was going to say is I wonder if even when you didn't have huge fans, you had your crew and whereas I didn't have anybody.
01:38:24.000I mean, like, I show up at Occupy by myself, and for the most part, you know, half the people got beef with me, half don't, and I'm just like, I'm doing my thing.
01:38:57.000But then there's also like, Someone with a hundred followers will say something that's not true, and I'm like, okay I could respond to them and try and convince one person or I can do my show and convince a million.
01:39:44.000Tim and crew, how long do you predict until the U.S.
01:39:46.000completely fractures and things get truly violent keep being you?
01:39:51.000Some people were chatting that Vosch was saying the leftists need to get armed or something, but I don't know if that's true, because I didn't see it.
01:40:50.000That was the first reason I wanted to train and I hit up Tim.
01:40:52.000One, I wanted to be, hey I was a really anti-gun guy.
01:40:56.000And I think it would be cool to learn from you and also talk to those guys about what they think reasonable gun control is or what you should do for mass shootings or whatever.
01:41:04.000And I had some of the most open-minded conversations I've ever had which have definitely switched my views on guns.
01:41:11.000But I remember Tim came to me after the seminar and he was like, hey, I want to get more women, people of color, I don't want to just be like white militia Tim Kennedy fanboys and I was literally like you are doing more for people than any of my old liberal friends.
01:41:31.000I posted a picture of a gun on a trans flag, and then I said... You can't tell me that with a straight face.
01:41:40.000Yeah, I said, trans gun rights are human rights.
01:41:43.000And I said, I think black trans women should have 50 BMGs mounted on their rooftops, if they so desire, and they should be able to carry AR-15s to protect themselves from white supremacist bigots who would do them harm.
01:41:55.000And the trans people filed takedowns against me and got it removed from Twitter.
01:48:42.000And I'm like, okay, well, I don't know how you have the argument that a woman who can't afford the baby can't abort it, but the man who can't afford the baby has no choice and has to go to jail for being a deadbeat.
01:49:55.000He's proving the point that a liberal from birth would retain... So he's like, we've kidnapped the child of a liberal family.
01:50:01.000Now we're raising it in an isolated space to see what behaviors it has to prove whether or not liberals are inherently, you know, liberal.
01:50:08.000All right, Iggy the Incubus says, Ayo Tim, as many times as your streams have gone down, all of a sudden, are you sure it's not actual malice from the overlords at YouTube at this point?
01:55:04.000And then a guy there does blood brothers with you and does rituals with your blood.
01:55:08.000You actually just like swab your cheek or something.
01:55:11.000But I always thought it was funny that in movies they'll take when it's like the ritual calls for blood and they're like let me slice my entire palm open instead of like poking my arm.
01:55:19.000Yeah, it's like how much blood did you need?
01:55:23.000And then their hand is like fine or they'll just wrap it and it's like bro you're not gonna be able to like it's gonna hurt.
01:55:27.000They're like we need blood let me cut my arm off.
01:56:23.000For the people who didn't listen to this episode, if I was watching a sketch, and you know it's a James O'Keefe sketch, and then the reveal is it's actually James O'Keefe, I would pop huge for that.
01:56:32.000It's like a 5'3", skinny blonde chick.
01:56:35.000She's like, tell me more about your job.
01:57:12.000Also, which possible skit cuz we got like 50 of these I know so good and the James the Jordan beat Jordan Peterson weight loss program Oh, that's right.
01:58:51.000What if a woman's eight months pregnant and the baby, you know, she has a miscarriage?
01:58:55.000So if you have something, if there's, like, a dumpster baby, like a, you know, a dead child found in a dumpster or something like that, yeah, you'd have to investigate because that's insane.
01:59:27.000It's the removal of the... It's a delivery.
01:59:28.000Well, the CDC says the termination of a pregnancy with a not live birth.
01:59:35.000If that's the idea they're trying to convey, I'm trying to steelman their approach.
01:59:39.000My response is, then put that in the law.
01:59:42.000Then make it clarify that the life of the baby must be preserved at all costs.
01:59:46.000But the issue is, despite Matt the other day arguing repeatedly that it's for the health of the mother, he also said when pressed, well, the woman can get an abortion electively.
01:59:59.000Also, there is no single piece of proposed pro-life legislation and there is no pro-life advocacy group or any group that has ever said, we need to make it illegal to remove a miscarried baby if necessary.
02:01:02.000If the pregnancy has already been terminated due to a miscarriage or stillbirth, then abortion is the termination of the pregnancy that doesn't result in a live birth, according to the CDC.
02:01:11.000Not to start more heated abortion stuff.
02:01:20.000Genuinely, this is not a gotcha thing.
02:01:23.000When on the argument where it's abortions are still going to happen, but not safe and legally.
02:01:29.000So, you know, a kid who is raped and his parents are going to disown them or, you know, like some of these I have friends who were, I mean, I've been in relationships with women who were raped and they were afraid to tell their parents because that was just the dynamic where they would have been shamed or whatever.
02:01:47.000So people who have to then sneak off to get less safe abortions.
02:01:51.000So the argument essentially saying that, yo, they're still going to happen, but it's just not going to be as safe if you don't have access.
02:01:58.000Is there sort of like a, well, we can do this solution from the pro-life stance on that?
02:02:08.000So there's the point about, you know, people are going to break this law.
02:02:11.000So what do you have to say about that?
02:02:12.000And then there's this question of whether there are going to be unsafe procedures if abortion isn't illegal.
02:02:17.000I think for the first question, I would say anytime we implement any kind of legislation to try to help people or save lives, some people are going to break the law.
02:02:25.000I don't think that's a good reason not to pass the law.
02:02:27.000So I know in Texas, it's difficult to have perfect metrics on this, but we've seen something like a 66% decline in the number of abortions that have happened there.
02:02:37.000And when it comes to the back alley abortion narrative, this is a mostly mythical idea that's been sold to the American public that prior to Roe v. Wade, because abortion was illegal, you just had thousands of women dying in these risky procedures.
02:02:52.000Bernard Nathanson was an abortion doctor who was, I believe, the founder of an organization called NARAL.
02:02:58.000And he admitted, after he defected from the pro-choice movement, that all of the numbers they produced for the number of women who died in back alley abortion procedures were completely fabricated.
02:03:26.000And 38% of them happened in states where abortion was legal.
02:03:29.000The reason is that as penicillin has become more widely available, Fewer women die from abortions and miscarriages.
02:03:37.000Yeah, antibiotics have become more widely available.
02:03:40.000So it's not as if... Penicillin's like the Ben and Jerry of the abortion complex.
02:03:44.000Well, penicillin's mostly not even in use, I'm pretty sure.
02:03:47.000Fair, but antibiotics, generally speaking, yeah.
02:03:49.000So it was an issue of people not having access to antibiotics.
02:03:52.000And again, before abortion was illegal, 38% of the deaths from abortion were taking place in states where abortion was legal.
02:03:58.000How do you deal with any other illegal medical procedure?
02:04:01.000Yeah, I mean they they happen it's not like we you know, we don't see people going out and being like people are
02:04:06.000illegally selling body parts Yeah, I think even Bergen was talking about that about how
02:04:10.000there might be more Do they call it medical tourism?
02:04:14.000Where people kind of cross state lines if it's going to go state by state to find it.
02:04:18.000What was really interesting to me learning the numbers about abortion was this, what a huge percentage of it is completely just because ladies like, I don't feel like being pregnant.
02:04:26.000In fact, Abby Johnson was just talking about a lady who aborted her 16 week old fetus because she wanted a summer body.
02:05:29.000So if you look by Midway Airport, and those are the pizza places that all of my friends and I, we grew up eating, and that's like the real Chicago pizza.
02:05:39.000You go to Giordano's and Limonati's, you get the tourist pizza.
02:05:41.000If you want to get the real square cut, semi-thick crust with thick cheese on it, you go down, you go to those places.
02:05:48.000That's how I feel about the Philly cheesesteak thing, where they're like, you know, like the two main ones are not good.
02:05:54.000And it's just everything in the surrounding area is very good.
02:05:56.000All right, let's grab... We'll try and grab a couple more, because we went a little over.
02:06:03.000Christopher Macy says, Tim, you said people can't grow their own food to feed themselves in cities.
02:06:07.000Please check out my page on TikTok at rebuildinglifegardens1.
02:06:12.000There are urban gardens that I know about.
02:06:15.000Places like Detroit, they've created urban gardens.
02:06:16.000And there's also balcony and rooftop gardens.
02:06:20.000So, I'm sure, um, I could be wrong, but I wonder if you'd have the acreage to sustain a population of a city.
02:06:27.000I don't, that's just not possible, you know?
02:06:30.000So, I think if you look at the amount of available arable land in a city versus how many people live there, you'd have to drop it down by 99%.
02:06:35.000I mean, you can grow some food, right?
02:06:38.000But I don't think you could, it's impossible to sustain yourself.
02:06:41.000You know, we've got, I think now, with the babies, maybe like 40 chickens.
02:08:09.000I think, you know, there's got to be responsibility involved.
02:08:12.000And there's a serious question about the father's rights, but it's not the father carrying the baby, which is it is the legal question of the rights in question.
02:08:20.000So when it came to the Supreme Court decisions, they're like, well, there's the woman, but then there's the baby and they're both in the same space.
02:08:40.000Because I was trying to think about it, because I'm really going to meditate on a lot of the things you guys said, because it's stuff I legitimately never thought about.
02:08:50.000When you told the story about the baby who was coming out, Gasp because I never heard those stories before and so I was trying to think about it But especially I mean if you make it equal, I mean it is the woman's body is the government It's a woman's body.
02:09:07.000And if you're in an abusive relationship if you know, there's so many Dicey situations where if it was equal like it's not equal it is in one of our bodies.
02:09:16.000It's not ever gonna be equal Yeah, it's impossible.
02:09:18.000Yeah, because women carry babies and men don't yeah period and but now there's a there's a there's a viral you know maybe
02:09:23.000we should talk about there are these viral posts going around of of men breastfeeding i yeah i
02:09:27.000think we should we Let's talk about it, because we're talking about these rights, so here's what we'll do.
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02:09:34.000We're going to address the questions of equality on this issue, but there's viral posts going around, I think Libs of TikTok had it, where men are taking hormone pills to induce lactation so they can share the burden with their wives.
02:09:45.000Yeah, I'm definitely gonna have more whiskey.
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