The Wall Street Journal confirms that Bill Gates was blackmailed by Epstein to try and get money out of him. Is Epstein the mastermind or the messenger? Plus, a pre-show with special guest Dan Bongino.
00:00:33.000okay this morning you know I wake up of course we had the news and I decide I'm
00:00:38.000going to do a segment about the Epstein conspiracy being confirmed
00:00:42.000Yeah, because the Wall Street Journal reported that Bill Gates was being blackmailed by Epstein to try and get money out of him, which is but a keyhole into the whole Epstein conspiracy, but basically confirms what we all believed is likely true.
00:00:58.000Epstein was blackmailing powerful individuals and trying to control them through Threatening to leak information on their, let's just call it, adult private affairs.
00:01:07.000Now, the Wall Street Journal says it appears to be this way, but they then outright say their sources say the intention of this communication was to blackmail Bill Gates.
00:01:16.000It may be just a single grain of sand that in the evidentiary file of Epstein was doing this, but now we know, at least in this one instance, he was.
00:01:27.000I think it's fair to say, in all likelihood, this is how he was doing everything he was doing.
00:01:30.000The question then becomes, is he the mastermind or is he the messenger?
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00:04:02.000I am Phil Labonte, the lead singer from the heavy metal band All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary, and I'm here with my friend, again... Ian Crossland!
00:06:02.000It was the only, like I don't drink White Claw, but it was the only alcoholic beverage where there was no lime, and they wouldn't let you go in with like five or six at a time, so I had to keep going out.
00:06:13.000So I was drinking these like tall boy White Claws, man.
00:06:49.000We got Epstein and Bill Gates right there.
00:06:51.000Jeffrey Epstein appeared to threaten Bill Gates over Microsoft co-founder's affair with Russian bridge player.
00:06:58.000It is the lightest, smallest grain of sand, effectively confirming, I believe confirming the conspiracy theory that Epstein was blackmailing powerful individuals, but they outright say it in here.
00:07:10.000They say in 2017, Epstein emailed Gates and asked him to be reimbursed for the cost of a coding course for this young woman, according to people familiar with the matter.
00:07:19.000Now, the issue here is, Why would Epstein contact Bill Gates about a young woman he had an affair with in secret, except to say, I know you had the affair, I want the money, I know you had the affair.
00:07:32.000They even go on to say the intention was to blackmail Bill Gates in this.
00:07:39.000Jeffrey Epstein discovered that Bill Gates had an affair with a Russian bridge player and later appeared to use his knowledge to threaten one of the world's richest men, according to people familiar with the matter.
00:07:49.000The Microsoft co-founder met them in around 2010, when she was in her 20s.
00:07:54.000Epstein met her in 2013 and later paid for her to attend software coding school.
00:07:58.000The email came after the convicted sex offender had struggled and failed to persuade Gates to participate in a multi-billion dollar charitable fund that Epstein tried to establish with JPMorgan Chase.
00:08:08.000And that whole story right there sounds like more blackmail.
00:08:11.000He went to JPMorgan and said, I want to get a bunch of the richest people in the world to invest a hundred million dollars into this fund and then I get paid millions out of it.
00:08:18.000They say the implication behind the message, according to people who viewed it, was that Epstein could reveal the affair if Gates didn't keep up an association between the two men.
00:08:27.000Now, is this why Bill Gates divorced his wife?
00:08:32.000I think that when you're dealing with people that are that wealthy, and in the positions that the people We're in the one people that went to Epstein's Island the positions that they held these people are not motivated by money You know a couple million here a couple million there Bill Gates isn't gonna notice but if you threaten to tell his wife that he's been you know porking some kid
00:08:57.000That'll go ahead and get some compliance and obedience out of him and that's what it's I think that that's the reason why Epstein's dead and I think that's the reason why the list never came out the people that have been to Epstein Island because they're all probably scummy people that have a lot that had a lot of dirt or that I've seen had a lot of
00:09:17.000dirt on them and that's what kept them, you know, in line. I think that there are there are very
00:09:22.000powerful people that have a lot of dirt on people with a lot of money. I couldn't help but notice
00:09:27.000in that I think it was a PBS interview with Bill Gates. You see that one where it's like, well, he's
00:09:32.000dead. So, you know, I always say, but here's the thing when he goes, he says, she says, did
00:12:37.000They sent that guy home and he never, he's never tempted at detail again.
00:12:42.000Now remember all those blackberries on that detail.
00:12:46.000Here's where the story gets super weird.
00:12:49.000The guy tells me What is it, months or a couple weeks later, when you lose property in the Secret Service, an email goes out, it'll say like, hey, I lost this phone, and it goes, it gets logged into NCIC or whatever it is, and everybody knows.
00:13:03.000So basically, if you find this guy's gun got verbatim in his phone, it's now effectively stolen property, right?
00:13:09.000All of a sudden, all the blackberries on that detail For the agents start showing up like, oh, this guy lost his BlackBerry.
00:13:34.000About a year and a half after that, I'm in a green room at Fox, and I'm not going to say who because they didn't give me permission to share it, but the short story, but I know who they are.
00:13:43.000Says, you know, Epstein's a an intelligence asset for people in the Middle East, right?
00:13:49.000I'm like, you sure that the person let's say is like, I'm absolutely sure that that he's either a winning or unwitting asset intelligence asset meaning.
00:14:01.000His plane and that island, the cameras, there's a big assumption out there that these videotapes were exclusively in the custody of Epstein.
00:14:18.000He wasn't the only one who had them, according to this source.
00:14:21.000These assets, that's why this blackmail story makes so much sense.
00:14:25.000Which Middle Eastern countries they are, I don't know, but this person who's a very, very good reporter, I mean, aces, right?
00:14:32.000Swore Epstein was either a winning or unwitting intelligence asset, and they may have had his plane wired up, and they're the ones who have all this stuff.
00:14:39.000So the point is, to sum it up, How do you know some of these countries aren't going to some of these power players who aren't making decisions?
00:14:47.000Because, hey, he wouldn't want this video out there, right?
00:14:52.000I mean... Let's get personal with Mr. Gates, though.
00:14:55.000If this is a story of an adult man having adult relations with an adult female outside of his marriage, Is it the biggest deal in the world that needs to be made public?
00:15:50.000Well, I was gonna say, I think The stuff that they're being blackmailed to cover up probably is not as bad as what they're doing in secret.
00:16:28.000You blackmail someone like Bill Gates into giving up millions of dollars to Epstein, who then uses that money for his trafficking purposes, and that is the bigger problem.
00:16:38.000These guys, who are like, oh no, my affair could be exposed, better fund Epstein, that's the crazy thing here.
00:16:45.000Don't you find it weird, too, that nobody seems to know what Epstein really did?
00:16:50.000It's like, oh, they said he was a hedge fund guy.
00:17:32.000There's interesting questions around that.
00:17:34.000But I would lean towards, I bet he was a puppet and somebody else got away with it.
00:17:38.000Oh yeah, especially if this Middle Eastern asset conversation holds water that they're basically laundering their money through Epstein and getting him an island and a place to live and funding his operation and then he's getting Bill Clinton on an airplane and getting him recorded having sex with some girl that's not his wife.
00:17:57.000He met this woman, apparently, and then found out about the affair and tried using that as leverage against Gates.
00:18:03.000From this story, it would seem, the picture they're trying to paint is, Bill Gates never did the more extreme things people are concerned about.
00:18:11.000That's why I'm like, is this them placating us?
00:18:15.000Hey, leak them a little bit, so that it seems like Bill Gates' worst thing is that he cheated on his wife?
00:18:20.000It's called a limited hangout, as opposed to letting it all hang out.
00:18:23.000A limited hangout is where they only give you a- when, like, there's bad things going on, they tell you the truth about a little thing, or smaller things, so that way you can say, oh, we've told you all this stuff, blah blah blah, but in reality, they're doing it to distract you from the actual big thing.
00:18:38.000A limited hangout versus letting it all hang out.
00:18:40.000And then when someone says Bill Gates was on Epstein's plane, they go, oh, we know about that, you know?
00:18:44.000And then Epstein blackmailed over that woman, but she was an adult.
00:18:48.000I mean, people aren't talking about, or people often forget the connections that Epstein has with politicians, the Clintons, you know, and that's, I think that probably has a significant amount of substance as well.
00:19:01.000Even if, like, Bill Clinton wasn't banging little girls on Epstein's Island.
00:19:05.000It's the connection that he has and the influence.
00:19:08.000Look at how many people were just dumping money into the Clinton Foundation when Hillary Clinton was running, and then it just like disappeared and evaporated after she lost.
00:19:17.000No one really questions what was going on with that money and with the Clinton Foundation.
00:19:22.000I mean, it probably still exists, but the connections between, you know, politicians and Epstein and, you know, I think that that's something worth looking into, and it blows my mind that we're not going to get it, you know?
00:20:16.000I mean, you look at the guy, like, in this area we're in now, where you get, you know, middle-class people with dirt under their fingernails who, you know, leave their work boots outside, right?
00:20:25.000These people are a thousand times the man that these losers, who are worth fortunes and have all this power, who basically facilitated this guy's BS.
00:20:35.000I mean, you'd call that out in a minute, you'd be like, wait, wait, wait, calm down with this, like, what's going on here?
00:20:59.000So the reason I think that'd be better at least to some degree is if it's a limited congressional run where you get duty and you go and there's like they would do the same thing to a jury and ask you questions and stuff and then some people like people could approve or reject is that after you vote for something you got to go back home.
00:21:16.000You don't get a lifelong appointments, you don't get access, you don't get a lobbying job, and you're sitting there being like, you know, if I vote for this bank bailout, my neighbors are going to scream in my face.
00:21:27.000I'm only... So that's what I, you know, when you mentioned the first hundred names in the phone book, the reason why I think we've got so many problems is that The people we have in government are the people who want power, not the people who want a good country.
00:22:09.000None of these people are willing to stick out their necks for their neighbors or their community.
00:22:13.000And I think that's one of the biggest problems plaguing our country right now.
00:22:17.000So you end up with politicians like AOC.
00:22:19.000Who will just lie, cheat, and steal all day, and has a whole bunch of people who aren't smart enough to know that they're being manipulated or cheated, or like it, supporting people like her, and then the people who actually are good people, like, imagine if we had, like, you know, like, uh, Senator Dan Bongino, for instance.
00:22:34.000Someone who clearly cared and actually believed in something, but here's the thing.
00:22:45.000But why would a corrupt system want you in that system?
00:22:49.000They'd be like, this guy, we gotta fight tooth and nail to keep this guy out.
00:22:52.000And so the good people who really do want positive changes either don't think it's worth the fight because it's painful and have the talents to succeed in other places and be effective in other ways, and the only people who are willing to go in government are the people who are not good at anything except their They're willing to lie, cheat, and steal for power.
00:23:10.000If you're really good, people will support you, and you will lead with genuine earned authority through, you know, honor.
00:23:18.000But if you need to seize the title to be someone's leader, I don't think that really implies that you're going to do a very good job.
00:23:24.000I ran three times, and you learn a lot.
00:23:27.000I think it's what pissed me off so much, and how I fell into kind of radio and podcasting, because I got so aggravated about the system.
00:23:54.000It was, like, the weirdest thing against 10 people, and, you know, by a sliver.
00:23:58.000But the second time it was kind of serious, like people thought, gosh, this guy can work because we wound up raising like a good chunk of money.
00:24:03.000But I'm in the Capitol Hill Club and I'm with this, I don't know, some group or something like that.
00:24:09.000They sent out a questionnaire before you meet with them.
00:24:11.000And long and short of it, it's about a patent thing.
00:24:13.000First to file versus first to invent, like something so esoteric, like only really like a limited number of people care about it.
00:24:20.000And I had a very specific stance on it because it mattered to me, like I researched and did the homework on all the issues.
00:24:25.000And I'll never forget them, like, almost kind of implying like, hey, you know, if you say the opposite, you know.
00:24:32.000And I thought you know how many people probably just told him yes for a cheap campaign donation because they don't care like no one's even gonna notice and I remember walking out I'm not I'm trying to like virtue signal anyone I mean I'm a sinner like but I I like anyone else but I wasn't doing that like because I knew once you once you kind of Once you sold a little bit of your skin, the pound of flesh was next.
00:25:00.000And then when I ran, you know, we were in the general, you know, against this guy in this congressional district, Delaney, who's since left, he ran for president and left.
00:25:17.000No Republican's gonna win as a conservative.
00:25:20.000If you just don't mention abortion or anything like that.
00:25:24.000And I gotta tell you, man, this is why I think focus groups in politics are full of bullshitters now, because everything they told me was fake.
00:25:36.000So I don't believe any of that, you know.
00:25:39.000I was sitting in a group after Mitt Romney lost to Obama down in D.C.
00:25:43.000This group I was a part of, this groundswell group, which was good people, and there was this focus group guy in there and he's like, don't ever mention immigration again, we're never gonna win.
00:27:02.000So what I end up seeing is you get a Trump and why do people like Trump so much is because he's finally somebody who he's talked a long time about running and saying he wouldn't do it.
00:27:12.000Remember that interview back in the day with I think it was Oprah and he's like, you know, I wouldn't run but if I did hear the things that I would focus on and he finally decides he is going to run.
00:27:21.000And it feels like, I think to a lot of people, it's the first time someone who should run is actually running, despite his crass personality.
00:27:30.000You know, he's a guy who is not supposed to be the politician.
00:27:34.000The politicians all wear the same suits, they all talk the same way, they all pander in the same ways.
00:27:39.000Hillary Clinton shows up in, you know, whatever state with a fake southern accent.
00:27:42.000AEOC shows up to a rally and does a fake Puerto Rican, Latina thing.
00:27:50.000And then you get a Trump, and sure he might be rude, but people kind of feel like... We keep asking for people to run for office who are real people who actually care, and they don't want to do it.
00:28:04.000fighting that machine. In this environment, the system isn't built right at the moment.
00:28:08.000With all this technology, we still have to mail pieces of paper across the world and hope that
00:28:13.000it lands on a box and gets counted and that they're just going to tell us the answer and
00:28:17.000we have to believe what they tell us. That's 1870 technology. And why would I want to be
00:28:22.000part of a system that is 100% disagree with you?
00:28:25.000You're totally wrong, Ian, I gotta tell you.
00:28:28.000Back in the day, there were much less people, and there were physical ballots that could be checked with tons of people standing around staring.
00:28:34.000Now it's all code behind the scenes you can't see.
00:28:37.000We should be able to see the candidate.
00:29:41.000Let me ask you directly, how does it happen that you wanted to get in office, you wanted to make that change, instead you're doing something different in terms of making that change?
00:30:53.000I'm investigating cases, which I love.
00:30:55.000I was a criminal investigator at first, but I just love that stuff.
00:31:01.000You know, I just, I saw Obama win and obviously I'm, you know, I'm getting ready to transfer to his detail because I'm on Bush's detail.
00:31:10.000And you know, it's weird for us, the Secret Service, because one night, I mean literally one night Bush walks out of the bedroom and the next night it's Obama.
00:33:37.000But then we ran for re-election here, and that race was serious, man.
00:33:42.000A lot of people were like, dude, this guy's not screwing around, man.
00:33:46.000Like, we would show up at the Brunswick Parade.
00:33:48.000The Brunswick Parade, we had these yellow shirts.
00:33:50.000The pictures are still on my Instagram.
00:33:52.000We'd show up with 150 people for a congressional race, walking down the street in yellow t-shirts, and everyone was like, who the hell is this guy, man?
00:34:02.000And for people who don't know, Brunswick is not very big.
00:34:24.000It was a pretty significant job offer because I was filling in on radio while I was running, which is a major no-no because it's equal time stuff.
00:34:31.000How these candidates didn't catch on is crazy.
00:35:59.000But I saw the guy, I'll never forget where I was.
00:36:02.000I'm in the Shelbourne Hotel in Manhattan because I'm getting ready as a counter-surveillance agent for the Republican National Convention, which was in New York, which was after that.
00:36:11.000So I'm watching him give this speech on TV.
00:36:14.000And I'm thinking of every corrupt, destructive Marxist-based politician in human history.
00:36:21.000What have they had the gift of more than anything?
00:36:23.000It's the gift of the ability to expel carbon dioxide, man, and talk and convince people that this old bullshit idea they were packaging is new again.
00:36:35.000I heard old-school Marxist claptrap garbage packaged in a way that even I'm listening going, damn, that's good.
00:36:44.000Let's talk about this story here from the Daily Signal.
00:36:46.000Exclusive leaked policy exposes Fox News' stance on woke ideology.
00:36:52.000So of course the big story Tucker Carlson gets ousted.
00:36:54.000Several reports have said he got the boot because it was part of the Dominion settlement.
00:36:59.000But Dan you had a show there, a huge show.
00:37:01.000So I don't know if you have any insights into this but I'll just say outright this is like a big exclusive where apparently now people are coming up from Fox News saying inside the company it is woke, it is very lefty.
00:37:11.000I think the obvious thing is you're in New York City.
00:37:19.000And I'm gonna get into the heaviness of these laws, but I'm curious, your experience at Fox News, you know, you go from politics, then you're into, you know, radio, now your personality, now you've got a show on Fox News.
00:37:29.000Did you see any of this woke stuff there?
00:40:10.000I hate when people read stuff I didn't see.
00:40:12.000But this was, someone gave this up to Breitbart, and this kind of explains it all.
00:40:16.000They said, because this is kind of accurate.
00:40:18.000They're talking about why me and Tucker weren't re-signed.
00:40:22.000And some source told him, this is from a Map Oil piece, that Bongino and Carlson, one source said, were considered the two most likely to say fuck you to management.
00:40:33.000The reason right here, a network insider said, adding that Bongino gave zero fucks and Tucker gave even less fucks.
00:41:54.000No one ever said to me something that didn't happen, so I can't sit here and say, again, it's easy for me to pile on, and I have no reason, I don't work there, I'm probably never gonna work there again, I may never do a hit again on Fox, but I'm not gonna tell anybody fairy tales that aren't true, because that's like short-run clickbait stuff, but in the long run, it dings your credibility.
00:42:12.000Now the Tucker story, it's got some angles to it.
00:42:16.000So I don't know if something happened last minute, That post-Dominion, where they were like, let's just clean house and get rid of these two?
00:42:23.000I don't know that, but, you know, things did change the last two weeks.
00:42:26.000So here's the interesting thing about this leaked policy exposing Fox News' stance on woke ideology.
00:42:33.000They say things that I think are kind of obvious, considering Fox is based in New York City, that your gender identity is protected, whether or not it conforms.
00:42:44.000This is New York City and state law, I'm pretty sure.
00:42:47.000And I've long talked about how the laws in New York City open the door for a major, major problem if anyone actually chooses to put it to the test.
00:42:58.000So in the Daily Signal article, they actually link to the New York City Commission on Human Rights definitions.
00:43:03.000They say gender expression is the representation of gender as expressed through one's name, pronouns, clothing, hairstyle, behavior, voice, or similar characteristics.
00:43:11.000Gender expression may or may not conform to gender stereotypes, norms, and expectations in a given culture or historical period.
00:43:20.000It actually says that, meaning if you put on a safari costume from the 1800s and call yourself the colonel with a fake beard, that is quite literally what they're referring to.
00:44:18.000Here's what I want to say about the law in New York City, though.
00:44:22.000Because I think we need some strong people at Fox News.
00:44:25.000If there's anywhere that would be willing to test the limits of these laws, it's someone who works at Fox News, who understands this is going too far.
00:44:33.000If you work at Fox News, you can put on a full wolf fursuit, Tell your boss your name is Vulsiferon, Herald of the Winter Mists, and your pronouns are Lord Vulsiferon and Lord Vulsiferons.
00:44:44.000And if they don't use it, they're in violation of the law.
00:44:47.000Now, as I've mentioned before, I've talked to lawyers about this in New York who said you'll be laughed out of the courtroom.
00:44:53.000Why would the law say historical period?
00:44:56.000Show up to Fox as an on-air contributor dressed like a pirate with an eyepatch and go, Yar!
00:45:01.000Thanks for having me on the air, matey!
00:45:03.000And if they have a problem with it and tell you, you can't go on to say, if you don't let me go on, I will file a complaint with the Commission on Human Rights in New York City for violation of their human rights law.
00:45:13.000Let's see how quickly Fox News bends over backwards.
00:45:35.000If they bar you from going on the air, they're in violation of the law.
00:45:38.000Now, go before a judge and say, Your Honor, this is how I express my gender as someone who's non-binary, and it says in the law, historical period is explicitly protected.
00:45:48.000No judge is gonna be able to laugh you out.
00:45:49.000There's no other interpretation of that.
00:45:52.000Sure, but if the law itself says historical period... Now look, when I first read this law back in 2019, I said, what would happen... I called a bunch of human rights lawyers in New York and said, what would happen if I went in dressed like a wolf or something and said I was vociferon?
00:46:06.000They said, They'd still fire you, kick you out, and when you go to a judge they'll say, we know what the intent of the law is and this is not it, and they will laugh you out of the courtroom.
00:46:15.000And I said, if a judge has the right to laugh at me for the way I dress, why not a man dressed like a woman?
00:46:21.000And they're like, well, I mean, the purpose of the law and the intent is... And I was like, okay, so there could be a judge who just says no?
00:46:28.000This law explicitly says historical period.
00:46:32.000That means if you go before a judge dressed like a pirate and say it says historical period, this makes me feel the most comfortable and confident in my gender.
00:46:40.000Why can't I dress up like a busty female pirate from the 1700s with an eyepatch?
00:46:59.000But I'm curious, because I'll tell you this, if it were me and I worked at Fox News, and this story came out, I would show up the next day dressed like a pirate.
00:47:07.000And I would get like legit Hollywood production quality pirate costume, and I'd be like, I am going on the air, dressed like a pirate, talking like this, yarrr!
00:47:19.000And if they had a problem with it, it's a violation of the law.
00:47:23.000Is Fox News at that point going, they're gonna be presented with one of two scenarios.
00:47:28.000Destroy your audience, sacrifice your audience for the local New York City laws, or relocate.
00:47:35.000You mentioned the New York City laws, and I think there's merit to that, but I do think that the ESG considerations from the investors and stuff, I think that has a significant amount of pressure put on them as well.
00:47:49.000So I think that the combination of the two is probably the most likely reason.
00:47:52.000But that part of the story puzzled me the most, that apparently they are pitching their high HRC score as like a net positive.
00:48:00.000As a conservative network, that's a stain on your network from that.
00:48:05.000But there's big investors that are like BlackRock and stuff like that, these investment firms and stuff like that, that have a significant effect on the direction of the corporation.
00:48:16.000It opens opportunities if you play by their rules.
00:48:19.000So it may affect your bottom line and Fox may lose viewers because of the woke stuff coming out, but BlackRock and stuff like that will promise opportunities in the future.
00:48:32.000See, Fox's business model, though, is not what everybody thinks it is.
00:48:35.000Most of their money actually comes from carriage fees.
00:48:38.000Now, advertising is obviously a good chunk of it, too, and they don't want to lose it.
00:48:41.000But the hard reality is, even though they were losing some money on Tucker's show due to boycotts and other stuff, Fox News was still generating a good chunk of change.
00:48:49.000I mean, they were not in any danger of going bankrupt or anything like that.
00:48:54.000Carriage fees are fees paid to a cable channel to be carried on like say Verizon, these cable packages.
00:49:01.000So because nobody will get cable without Fox, very few people, they get paid a certain amount of money for each user.
00:49:07.000So the problem Fox is going to have that's bigger than boycotts, ad boycotts, are cord cutters.
00:49:13.000Because if you're getting a carriage fee of whatever, say a dollar a person and there's a hundred million people with cable, you got a hundred million in the can before you sold a freaking ad.
00:49:23.000The problem is the cord cutting is speeding up.
00:49:25.000That's why when I decided I was going to do interviews after leaving Fox, I've only done two and they've both been new media.
00:49:32.000You guys and Megyn Kelly, because I am an avid supporter of new media.
00:49:36.000This cord cutting picks up shows like this.
00:49:39.000You have to understand, like, this is gonna be a dumb box in the future, okay?
00:50:00.000We just bought a house, and the guy comes over to, we needed a cable, traditional cable, because I still watch cable, Newsmax and Fox and stuff.
00:50:25.000There is pressure from places like BlackRock that can buy up a lot and can buy up your stock.
00:50:30.000But if your brand and your value-added, right, is, hey, we're going to be the conservative channel, then I'm sorry, but you've got to do conservative stuff.
00:50:39.000I mean, their opinion part is conservative.
00:50:53.000Someone superchatted and said, what if the historical period was pre-Civil War, Southern Belle?
00:50:58.000So if you work at Fox News, show up and say you identify as your gender is non-binary antebellum, and wear old pre-Civil War... You'd be thrown out of there so fast!
00:51:12.000Look, if they want to create these laws, all it takes is someone with the willingness to be like, let's see if, like, let's play a game of chicken.
00:51:20.000Is Fox News... Look, Fox News is perfect for this because the people who work at MSNBC like what MSNBC does.
00:51:28.000The people who work at Fox clearly oppose, not all of them, but a lot of them, the ideology.
00:51:32.000Is Fox going to say, we will lose our audience and go out of business?
00:51:39.000If you work there, you can make the difference.
00:51:41.000But I wonder, have they made a commitment ever since Tucker and I, you know, departed from the network?
00:51:48.000Have they made a commitment to kind of become like a right-of-center network rather than what they were, thinking that that's where the money is?
00:51:56.000Because you've got to remember, everyone who's tried that has failed.
00:51:59.000I could go through a list of probably four or five online outlets.
00:52:02.000It started as Explicitly Right, Conservative Right-Leaning.
00:52:57.000Jimmy Dore will argue socialist economic points, and you'll be like, well, Jimmy, I think you're clearly wrong about that, and then you'll come to the issue of Epstein, or Clinton, or the banks, and you'll completely agree, because he's honest.
00:53:08.000Jimmy doesn't buy into the religion either.
00:53:10.000Like, the whole religion part, the ideology that goes along with it, it's like Jimmy's straight up about, like, the actual material conditions, which is more close to, like, original Marxism, with What is it?
00:53:31.000He doesn't get into the... what basically boils down to the...
00:53:37.000Almost the theology of the left, the whole trans stuff and the LGBT stuff and basically making it like a religious... You know what I think the Fox problem is going to be too?
00:53:49.000The problem they're going to have is conservatives, right?
00:53:52.000I mean, I've been embedded in this movement a long time, over a decade of my life.
00:53:56.000Conservatives don't like to get toyed with.
00:57:03.000military to go after drug cartels and street crime.
00:57:06.000He wants to eliminate an Obama-era rule requiring cities and local governments to address residential segregation.
00:57:11.000He wants Quantum Leap to revolutionize the American standard of living.
00:57:14.000His Quantum Leap to revolutionize the American standard of living includes baby bonuses to create a new baby boom and the design of 10 new freedom cities in the U.S.
00:57:23.000He wants national concealed carry reciprocity?
00:57:28.000I'm like, Axios is really getting me on board with Trump 2024.
00:57:44.000The idea that he would use the military to go after street crime is a little concerning and insane, because that's not what the military is for.
00:57:54.000I think what we've heard from Trump is that the Insurrection Act should be used against riots.
00:57:59.000And what Axios is doing is they're reframing it to make it seem like he's talking about a dude robbing a liquor store, which would be, I believe, a violation of posse comitatus.
00:58:06.000Trump was resistant to using the military to even stop the riots.
00:58:11.000I think what he's saying now is, hey, if this happens again, we'll invoke the insurrection act.
00:58:14.000And I won't be too critical since this is a news report about what he said rather than just what he said.
00:58:19.000But the other thing that struck me was that he wants to give the executive authority the right to hire and fire federal employees, which could be like some psycho could get into office and fire everybody and put all his sycophants in.
00:58:32.000If you schedule Fs everyone, I love that.
00:58:36.000But also, I clicked the link, and it brings you right to his Stop Crime and Restore Safety, and let me just read for you.
00:58:42.000It says, Our once great cities are now controlled by gangs, cartels, plagued, mentally ill, and drug-addicted homeless.
00:58:49.000Trump will revitalize police departments and reclaim safety, dignity, and peace for law-abiding Americans, who deliver record funding to hire and retain police officers, strengthen qualified immunity and other protections for police officers, Increase penalties for assaults on law enforcement, put violent offenders and career criminals behind bars, and surge federal prosecutors and the National Guard into high-crime communities.
00:59:08.000The only thing that remotely comes close to using the military for street crime is National Guard and high-crime communities.
00:59:16.000The National Guard is deployed in extreme circumstances.
00:59:19.000If the bulk of what he's saying is revitalizing police departments, for Axios to frame it as he wants to address street crime with military is a lie.
00:59:28.000Hopefully he's not talking about putting, like, the National Guard on the south side of Chicago, standing on the street corners with AK-47s.
00:59:33.000I think he's talking about when they deployed the National Guard to Ferguson when there was widespread rioting, and that was Obama who did that.
01:00:03.000I was one of the few... I'm still getting shit about this.
01:00:06.000When Bukele and then they did these big prison camps for all these gang members, I was one of the few guys, the conservatives are still ripping me for this, but that's fine because I'm not going to change my position.
01:00:18.000I was one of these guys saying, are you really sure about that?
01:00:21.000We want to round up five, six hundred thousand people or whatever and throw them in a prison camp and we're all celebrating.
01:00:29.000There's no more pro-cop, pro-let's crack down, use broken windows policing guy than me.
01:00:35.000But we have to be careful as conservatives who support liberty to not be like liberals, like the current thingers.
01:00:42.000The current day, oh, look, there's a guy down there in South America who's cleaning up the streets.
01:01:29.000The problem is who gets to declare that then, right?
01:01:34.000Because you're asking a good question, but my question is another question.
01:01:39.000What happens if you get an Obama then, who says, you know what, we're at a state of war and these conservatives, they're talking about a stolen election, that's all treason and you're all going to go to jail.
01:01:48.000So I would rather err on the side of extreme caution and have limits on the natural vicissitudes of men's emotions than to have this kind of open-season attitude.
01:02:01.000And I find what people do is they get desperate, and desperation You know, here's the thing.
01:02:07.000I use this analogy on my show a lot, right?
01:02:08.000You ever see The Walking Dead before it went woke?
01:02:28.000Oh, look, the zombies on the outside are worse than us taking away our own freedom in a prison.
01:02:32.000That's what worries me about conservatives specifically.
01:02:36.000I'm not saying championing what they did in El Salvador is horrible.
01:02:41.000If it works out, great, fine, and civil liberties eventually are respected, but you've got to understand, This is the kind of stuff that tyrants love.
01:02:47.000They love to scare you enough, because their fear is the coin of the realm, right?
01:03:02.000So the issue that I see is, if principled people are constantly going up against unprincipled people, the unprincipled people will win.
01:03:11.000People who are willing to, like I was talking about Monopoly, right?
01:03:13.000If you're playing against someone who's actively cheating and won't stop, but you keep playing anyway, my question is, I like what El Salvador is doing.
01:03:20.000I don't know the, I'm not going to say I know every single detail and every single thing they've done, but they went, I think, like three months without any murders since they started rounding up the criminal cartels.
01:03:28.000You've got a bunch of people who are actively in these, so I'll, let's reframe this into the United States.
01:03:34.000The left wants to release people from jail.
01:03:36.000They're saying, you know, this guy was a shoplifter, let's release him.
01:03:39.000He goes right out, right away, and shoplifts again.
01:03:42.000Gets caught, starts laughing, saying, y'all caught me the first time and let me go.
01:03:45.000It's very difficult to know how we deal with problems like this at scale.
01:03:51.000When a country's a lot smaller, there's a lot less people, we're very, very, very libertarian.
01:03:55.000But the bigger issue at play was a shared sense of community, where most people shared religious values, and there was a lot less people.
01:04:04.000When militia meant the local men who would take up arms to defend their community, now you have a place like New York City where people don't even know who lives next door to them.
01:04:11.000And so what happens is you get a guy on a train threatening people and everybody just puts their head down and ignores it.
01:04:21.000The solution to this problem In the most extreme circumstances, maybe the Insurrection Act sending out the National Guard or the Army to stop mass unrest in the United States.
01:04:32.000The real solution is shared moral frameworks, which we don't have.
01:04:37.000And rebuilding that takes generations.
01:04:39.000And so it's been destroyed and dismantled over the past couple generations.
01:04:43.000It may come to a point where you've got a left that is saying abortion up to nine months, no questions.
01:04:50.000And we've had these people on this show say that, outright, yes.
01:04:56.000And here I am, traditionally in the Democrat camp of pro-choice, meaning in the first trimester or the first six to 10 weeks or 12 weeks or 15 weeks, we'll find that number.
01:05:08.000Conservatives saying, no, no, no, we're pro-life, no abortion, no matter what.
01:05:11.000Yet, I am more aligned with conservatives in that we all recognize taking the life of a baby that is completely capable of surviving on its own makes no sense.
01:05:20.000So what happens when you have a state like Colorado where they're actively aborting, I'm doing air quotes here, babies at the point of birth because it's legally allowed?
01:05:29.000Should the federal government go in and start arresting these doctors and prosecuting them?
01:05:34.000At what point do you then have the left saying, you are the authoritarian fascist arresting medical professionals, and they frame it the way they want?
01:05:51.000Why do we give a shit about what the left is saying?
01:05:53.000So you're telling me that the side recommending genital mutilation, saying we should put kids in shit schools in inner cities for generations that have no chance of prosperity, the side that won't pay a freaking dime in extra taxes themselves, That demands they sit on their fat asses and do nothing all day while you support them through your meritocratic work, that we should take them seriously?
01:06:15.000When, oh, look, you guys are the fascists because there's an infant child that's done nothing wrong.
01:06:21.000We're not going to suck its brains out and you want to do something to stop?
01:06:24.000I don't really give a shit what the left says, so I'm not suggesting you do.
01:06:29.000I'm just saying, like, if you want cutesy time and stuff, I'm definitely not your guy because I give zero fucks about that.
01:06:40.000That's a different argument because there is an option there.
01:06:44.000Like if we're talking about you can't transfer the abortion argument over to that because we're talking about like sucking out a kid's brains in a post-birth abortion or we're talking about crime and law enforcement.
01:07:55.000They all have to be arrested because they're all facilitating abortion up to the point of birth.
01:08:00.000If you are killing an infant child in violation of the law, then I'm really sorry, but you made that decision.
01:08:08.000So in El Salvador, when you've got 10-15,000 guys in one area who are all obviously displaying tattoos, working as guards, Actively participating in seditious actions, then they send in the government and they arrest them all.
01:08:24.000And the problem is, when we get these photos of all these gang members being arrested, and you get people of good principle saying, like, I'm kind of worried about a government going and rounding all these people up, Now people in El Salvador... I met a guy in DC from El Salvador and he was talking to another guy.
01:08:42.000I heard him mention something about it.
01:09:13.000But, you know, Luke brings up how he was trying to tell Republicans, like, hey man, watch out for this.
01:09:17.000This DHS stuff is going to come and bite you in the ass.
01:09:20.000It's hard to know Whether what you're doing will work out perfectly.
01:09:25.000But I think it's a losing position to be like, hey, I don't want to go and arrest a thousand people because of the precedent set if another bad person gets in office.
01:09:38.000It's like, you gotta arrest bad people doing bad things, even if it means it looks bad.
01:09:43.000So you end up with people in law enforcement saying, I'll give you a story actually.
01:09:49.000I was just skating in Hagerstown Skate Park, and the local guys over there, Hagerstown, Maryland, you know where Hagerstown is.
01:10:12.000And if anyone else does, they're getting arrested because they're concerned about what the locals will, the public will think about cops coming in and grabbing a bunch of kids and roughing them up and arresting them in the scene that it causes.
01:10:22.000So they're like, we're going to back away from it.
01:10:24.000And this leads to excessive lawlessness.
01:10:27.000The solution would then be having a team of cops come out in gear, grabbing 12 kids, pinning them down and arresting them all, and then you get a ton of videos of cops in specialized armor fighting a mob of kids, a gang.
01:10:51.000But they're not going in El Salvador and just being like, no charges at trial, you're being renditioned.
01:10:54.000No, listen, I'm not suggesting that every single person in that jail or even a small minority, most of them probably... You know, I was... Let me tell you this story.
01:11:47.000I'm like, he turns around, he goes, that's not me.
01:11:50.000We're like, it wasn't my case, it was part, it was, I'm like, holy shit, that's not this guy.
01:11:55.000Now, the crazy thing is the guy admitted to like 20 or 30 different crimes, proper section, which is so, and we're like, what the hell do we do now?
01:12:05.000This guy, because it's a proper, it's a king for a day.
01:12:08.000My point is that like, we have rules and procedures, And those rules and procedures have to matter.
01:12:13.000For as much as I would have loved to have pulled that guy out of handcuffs, God, fuck the rules.
01:12:30.000But I don't think that's what, so this conversation starts with El Salvador specifically.
01:12:35.000I don't, I don't think that's what El Salvador is doing.
01:12:37.000I think now what you're actually seeing is a president who said, we're going to uphold the law as the law is meant to be upheld, instead of governments that were working with the criminals.
01:12:44.000Yeah, but you got to worry about the guy that comes after BK.
01:12:48.000I just don't, I just don't see this making sense.
01:12:50.000A president comes in El Salvador and says, hey, all these things they're doing is illegal, and these cartels were working with corrupt government officials.
01:12:56.000Now that I'm here, I'm going to start arresting them for crimes.
01:12:58.000I am not worried about what happens next, because the next president should uphold the law in the exact same way that the previous did.
01:13:04.000But the thing is, he's arresting them for crimes.
01:14:01.000I mean, the FBI has got a surveillance squad that can monitor in a city probably less than, I don't know, five, six hundred people, far less than at any given day.
01:14:09.000You're telling me like all of these people got some kind of judicial process?
01:14:35.000on January 20th, 2017, or 21st, I think it was, several hundred far-left extremists were firebombing vehicles, setting fires in the streets, smashing windows.
01:14:48.000They told everybody, hey, show up on this day, we're gonna protest Trump, wear all black.
01:14:55.000When the cops surrounded everybody and arrested several hundred of them, the court said, We can't prosecute you because we are required to prove as an individual you committed the crime.
01:15:08.000So the government tried charging them with conspiracy because they all chose to wear black to hide the crimes of the individuals in the crowd.
01:15:16.000And the court said, you can't do that.
01:15:19.000Prove to me that man right there threw the firebomb or he is free to go.
01:15:24.000So, the only people who got criminally charged were those who pleaded guilty, and that was early on, until the NGOs came in and said, don't worry, to all the leftists, if you committed felonies, we will make sure you never see a minute in jail.
01:15:39.000Not only were these people freed after destroying DC in an insurrection, they sued the city and won large sums of money.
01:15:48.000A society that operates that way can't function when you have the inverse happening to the other side.
01:15:55.000So you have the far-left extremists firebombing buildings, smashing windows, and the courts say, sorry.
01:16:01.000Then you have January 6th and they say, we will hunt you down to the ends of the earth and lock you up indefinitely without charge or trial.
01:16:20.000I'm just like, at a certain point, the question is for El Salvador, the gangs are working with the government and they all know who the gangs are.
01:16:27.000They know who the bosses are and it's corrupt as corrupt can be.
01:16:41.000I'm not saying it's perfect, I'm not saying I know everything that happened.
01:16:43.000I'm just saying, right now what we're dealing with in the U.S.
01:16:45.000is, I watch the far left burn down cities, and the courts then say, well, we agree with Dan Bongino on this.
01:16:52.000Then when the right goes and protests in Portland, the cops say, nope, we're gonna lock them up because, you know, they're part of a group.
01:16:57.000Yeah, but the irony is that you're in all black.
01:17:00.000You could have been caught up in that, sent to jail illegally, right?
01:17:04.000And I was arrested, but the people wearing all black- But what if you had no recourse?
01:17:08.000They were all wearing- they were wearing hoodies and masks.
01:17:11.000And so you had a group of two, three hundred people all dressed identically for the explicit purpose of- No, I get it, but you see my point?
01:17:18.000Like, what if you were just an innocent- you're wearing black right now, what if you got- I- wouldn't you feel like- I was wearing all black and I was arrested.
01:17:25.000And I had a press card in my pocket, and the cops pulled me out and said, you can go home now.
01:17:34.000If you show up to an Antifa rally dressed like Antifa, and you stand in a crowd of Antifa throwing firebombs at people... Well, that's different!
01:17:48.000The whole point that we don't have an actual justice system right now.
01:17:52.000We do have a justice system that's blind.
01:17:53.000It's blind to the Democrats, a political party.
01:17:56.000There's no air between us there like I absolutely agree.
01:18:00.000My simple suggestion here is that there's a way to fix that and the way to fix that and the only way to fix it it's not violence because once you cross the red line it's over like there's no going back going oh I'm sorry I killed that guy like once you go down that path there's just no and I think a lot of people who talk a lot of shit about violence have never been there Like, if you guys actually sat there at a crime scene with, like, a dude's head blown off on the potatoes in a freaking bodega when you're the new guy, you know what that looks like?
01:18:59.000I think fire those who deserve to be fired, but if you smell even the lightest scent of anything criminal, Yes, but we totally agree.
01:19:09.000I, to the camera, I concur with Tim Pool.
01:19:13.000We, I don't know why we're, how are we arguing about it?
01:19:15.000I mean, you guys are just outlining an inherent problem with liberalism, which is you take, liberalism takes the opposing view seriously and it's charitable.
01:19:25.000Like, in essence, the whole point of, that's where we get our, our innocent until proven guilty Let me put it this way.
01:19:33.000When I see a leftist get censored on Twitter, I will not defend them.
01:19:36.000they're good, we assume that they're going to be innocent, we assume they're
01:19:39.000virtuous, and that's the way we approach... Let me put it this way.
01:19:43.000When the left gets... when I see a leftist get censored on Twitter, I will not
01:19:50.000defend them. You said you don't believe in free speech.
01:19:54.000Okay, I'll give you, I'll grant you your wish.
01:19:57.000To the people who don't believe in constitutional rights, don't stand for them and actively oppose it, I will not defend them.
01:20:04.000There's this meme of the left shares from Karl Popper about tolerating intolerance.
01:20:08.000And they say, we can't tolerate hate speech because the intolerant eventually take over and kick out the tolerant.
01:20:15.000If you want to come to me and tell me my constitution and things I believe in should be destroyed, then when it comes to how our community, which is a sphere of influence that says, here are the rights that are granted to you.
01:20:27.000If you actively oppose those rights, I will make sure that when it comes, when you are guilty of a crime, you don't get them.
01:20:39.000So if someone is falsely accused, and we don't have evidence, we defend them.
01:20:43.000But if someone is a known Antifa guy who is caught red-handed and on camera saying, F the Constitution, F this country, F you colonial whatevers, and starts throwing fireballs, or those lawyers in New York, I say, I don't care to defend them if they don't Like, look, my point is this.
01:21:02.000At a certain point, you're in a culture war, and there are people actively trying to destroy your culture and your values.
01:21:08.000If we keep protecting them, and they're exploiting our system to destroy us, we will lose.
01:21:13.000I was fighting about this with people.
01:21:58.000So that means it's okay for me to lie.
01:22:00.000That when he came here and he was on with Charlie Cook, he was pleasant, etc.
01:22:05.000And then he goes back to his show and he's just the most vile scumbag.
01:22:10.000He did it, he does it to leftists and stuff.
01:22:12.000And the point is, you can't believe people just because they say, you know, just because of what they say.
01:22:19.000You have to understand where their philosophy comes from.
01:22:22.000And if you're an authoritarian, if you're not a liberal, there's no reason to believe that the person that's coming to you respects liberal principles and there's no reason to believe that they're going to be honest.
01:24:03.000The challenge is, when do we determine that we are in active conflict with people who seek to destroy us?
01:24:08.000If foreign nationals invaded the US and started committing acts of terror, We would give them certain rights, like international war rights and things like that, but for the most part, you're at war.
01:24:36.000If there's a regime that commits every war crime in the book and then wins, the book will never mention a war crime being committed and the idea of war crimes won't exist.
01:24:44.000Because the person who wins the war wins.
01:24:54.000But if we're facing an existential threat, where a group of people are seeking to burn the Constitution to the ground, do we say, let's protect those who are, like, you've got people outside a federal building in Portland trying to burn it down, and we kept going, well, you know, but they have rights.
01:25:10.000So, 90 days of firebombs being lobbed at a federal building and nothing being done about it.
01:25:22.000But we already kind of have—we have an established judicial principle about when we're allowed to violate rights, especially when it applies to things like religion.
01:25:30.000A compelling government interest, two-pronged test, right?
01:25:35.000That's a pretty good guidepost for a violation of any rights, because you're going to have to violate people's rights, right?
01:25:39.000You have the right to assembly, right?
01:25:41.000But if the assembly tomorrow was a call for the open overthrow via violent means of the United States and the assassination of the president, that's going to be broken up because there's crimes being committed.
01:25:53.000Like, if you have a religion, for example, and the religion says, whatever, it's Joey Begadonatzism, and it says we're going to bloodlet on children until we take six pints of blood.
01:26:02.000The chat is loving Joey Begadonatzism.
01:26:05.000It's the most New York thing that you've been dropping.
01:26:08.000I'm enjoying the hell out of it, too, personally.
01:26:11.000But if it said, we're going to bloodlet children for six weeks straight, take a pint of blood every day.
01:26:16.000You have freedom of movement, but you can't because there's a compelling government interest.
01:26:21.000And the least restrictive means would be to come in and say, not lock people up and say, hey, is there a different way for you to celebrate that?
01:26:28.000Like, I don't know, maybe an animal sacrifice or something, right?
01:26:32.000So we already have established guideposts, but I take your point that One of the things I think we specifically in the United States, especially liberals, which drives me crazy, tend to do, and you know them well, like you know more liberals than I do, is they tend to transplant our values overseas with this like spreading democracy crap.
01:26:53.000That's why I'm not saying any of that.
01:26:56.000I'm simply suggesting with this entire thing, we have to understand that people around the world are, we are a very advanced culture.
01:27:03.000And no, American exceptionalism is not the same as Greek exceptionalism like Obama said.
01:27:11.000But that means everyone else is different than us.
01:27:13.000We are at the top of this totem pole and transplanting that to other countries and going, oh if they just did it better here, broken windows in El Salvador, I get it, that's naive.
01:27:22.000I'm just saying, we are a very advanced culture and we're ridiculously rich.
01:27:28.000We have an established set of principles we should follow, and because liberals don't, I agree with your proposition there.
01:27:34.000We should never defend idiots personally.
01:27:37.000If you say, hey, I agree with you 100%, hey, free speech sucks, ban conservatives, I'm not gonna defend you personally, but I will absolutely defend a liberal's right in general, big R, God-given right to speak.
01:27:48.000I used to be much more just like, Libertarian, Constitution, and I still am for the most part.
01:27:54.000I used to say, free speech for everybody.
01:27:55.000When a leftist got banned, I'd be like, nope, they have to have their free speech protected.
01:28:33.000Do you think parents have the absolute say in the medical treatments that their children receive?
01:28:39.000No, I don't believe in any... No, what if this says... What if a parent says, I want to cut off the nuts of my five-year-old because they accidentally touched the Barbie doll?
01:28:49.000So you're saying... Wait, so you think the government should be allowed in certain circumstances to intervene to stop parents who are giving or neglecting the actual health of their children?
01:29:16.000And second, what's the least restrictive means?
01:29:19.000The least restrictive means is just to leave it alone, not to enact some kind of new The argument is for mumps, for instance, mumps has started re-emerging because parents are refusing to get their kids vaccinated.
01:29:28.000So that's why they create the mumps vaccine mandate.
01:29:31.000Yeah, but you have an option against that.
01:29:32.000Like you could go get a mumps vaccine and you're not at risk.
01:29:35.000That was my beef with the COVID vaccine.
01:29:37.000The whole point is they painted it out like it was a compelling government interest because it would stop community spread.
01:29:43.000And then we found out it didn't do that.
01:29:45.000And then we found out second that it didn't even stop you from getting COVID either.
01:29:49.000So, you know, I don't like questions in absolutes, because there are no absolutes.
01:29:53.000It's like saying heat or no heat in winter.
01:29:59.000When the vaccinated stuff happened, you had the left arguing the government has a right to intervene if parents aren't doing right by their children in terms of medical care.
01:30:10.000There's a lot of questions about, like, parents make their kids vegan.
01:30:12.000And then when it came to the issue of trans kids, the right said parents have no right to put their kid through this and the government should stop them.
01:30:23.000And many people have even said the parents should be arrested if they try and get their kid, you know, child sex changes, things like that.
01:30:46.000The left argues the government should not be able to intervene to stop a child's sex change, but the government should intervene to give a kid a vaccine.
01:30:53.000The right says, no, the government should not be able to force vaccines, and parents should not be allowed to give their kids sex changes.
01:30:59.000So the real issue is just the shared moral framework.
01:31:02.000There are, like, you find that even leftists, like Jimmy Dore, would probably agree with the right position on not giving kids sex changes.
01:31:11.000And there's a big distinction then between what the left and the right is simply on moral frameworks, not on principles.
01:31:15.000Yeah, but those aren't morally equivalent.
01:31:19.000You're talking about a vaccine in one case that, granted, may have some serious side effects, okay?
01:31:25.000But as far as we know, has not killed every single person who got it, right?
01:31:29.000But then you're talking, on the other hand, about permanently altering a young child with no capacity for advanced decision-making by cutting their nuts off.
01:31:50.000The thing about the left is, the way people attack the left, which is completely wrong, and I say on my show all the time, never do this, is they attack them on the hypocrisy front.
01:31:59.000I do it as a humor, Olinsky thing, just to embarrass them.
01:32:02.000You're shaking your head because they don't care.
01:32:05.000The left doesn't care about hypocrisy.
01:32:11.000We have a set of guiding big R God-given rights principles that we... I always say to people, like, we have an emergency brake on our behavior that leftists don't have.
01:32:20.000I cannot physically attack you as a principled conservative and beat the crap out of you because I don't like you like Antifa does to us because our rights come from God.
01:32:31.000But so do yours, even if your politics are freaking stupid.
01:32:39.000If you identify those who share your moral values, if everybody in this country shared the same moral framework, you'd need very little police officers, you'd need very little in way of law enforcement.
01:33:05.000And the culture war right has Christian moral framework.
01:33:09.000Whether or not people like Bill Maher want to understand it or accept it, the reality is the Constitution is rooted very, very much so in a Christian moral framework.
01:33:17.000That is not me saying everybody of good moral standing is Christian or needs to be.
01:33:20.000I'm saying a lot of these ideas, I've talked about it quite a bit, like Blackstone's formulation, He says it's better that ten guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer.
01:33:29.000My point is simply that there is no simple blanket principle.
01:33:34.000There is only the extent to which we share morals.
01:33:36.000And we find it morally reprehensible, for the reasons you described, to give a child a sex change.
01:33:41.000At the same time, we find it morally reprehensible for a government to mandate a medical procedure.
01:34:09.000You cross it, I tell you to screw off.
01:34:11.000That means, it's not about parents, it's not about principles, it's not about rights.
01:34:14.000Free speech, in my opinion, extends to those who believe in free speech.
01:34:17.000I will protect it for everybody who says I have a right to say it.
01:34:20.000The moment some leftist comes out and says, no one has free speech rights but me, I say I look forward to you getting arrested when you lose your free speech rights and I won't defend you.
01:34:59.000Not you anymore, dude, because you're a cheater.
01:35:01.000The thing that sucks is, is the reaction to, like, the left Wants the reaction like they always complain about reactionaries, but they start the dialectic they initiate What is going to make the right react then when they get the reaction?
01:35:17.000From the right they can go ahead and say look we need to change this or change that because look at the reactionaries and blah blah blah The way that, historically, a lot of countries, and this is not something that I'm endorsing the U.S.
01:35:28.000doing, the way that, historically, a lot of countries have dealt with communists or leftists being what they are, dishonest and having a different set of principles, is it ends up being like fascism.
01:35:45.000And that's not good, but it's better than communists.
01:35:47.000Well, that's what I think about this Colorado- We gotta go to Super Chats.
01:35:50.000To tap this out, man, this Colorado nine-month abortion thing, like, if it's federally legal, like, the feds are not involved and it's a state rights thing, I don't think you would want to send the feds over there to bust it up.
01:36:11.000I know it's overly simplistic to say, because that's not what the Civil War was.
01:36:14.000The Civil War was a wide range of issues.
01:36:16.000Part of why the Emancipation Proclamation was only after the Civil War already started.
01:36:20.000My point is, if there are people in a state that— It's like, if Colorado legalizes—
01:36:26.000I mean, we'll just talk about nine-month abortion.
01:36:30.000Like, we are talking about something so morally shocking and reprehensible, the overwhelming majority of Americans oppose it, and the only way the left gets these things through is by lying to people and tricking them.
01:36:40.000It's why you'll often have these conversations with leftists, and I'll give you a really, really simple one, it really confuses me.
01:36:47.000Why is it that leftists are so afraid to say that they are homosexual?
01:36:51.000It may seem like a silly example, but I genuinely mean it.
01:36:56.000Lance from the serfs comes on this show and says that it is heterosexual straight for a male to engage in adult activities with another male so long as that male is effeminate.
01:37:07.000I still think he's messing with us, dude.
01:37:16.000He said that if you- Trans lesbians exist, and you are completely wrong on this, Ian.
01:37:21.000So my point is, why are they so afraid to admit that they're gay?
01:37:26.000Because I got no problem with people who are gay at all.
01:37:28.000But this guy, Lance, comes on the show and says he thinks it is straight for a male to engage in activities with a male, so long as the male is effeminate.
01:37:36.000He even said to you, Ian, that if a male was to engage in relations with a manly, ugly woman, that would be gay.
01:37:50.000I remember this 10 years ago, they were talking about if you are a female who won't date, if you are a lesbian who won't date a trans woman, you are transphobic.
01:38:18.000They won't admit what they actually think, and they will lie to you to get what they want.
01:38:21.000I think the reason they're afraid to say it is because they know that if they go to a regular, average person and say, you're gay, then they're gonna be like, hey, screw you, no, I'm not.
01:38:29.000So they lie and say, no, no, you're totally straight if you suck on that dude, you know what I mean?
01:39:18.000So my point is, if they're doing that at the governmental level, I believe that violates the 14th Amendment.
01:39:24.000I believe that if a baby can survive on its own, it's protected by the Constitution, and the federal government should go in and arrest every single doctor.
01:40:06.000I'm not saying that the baby shouldn't have constitutional rights.
01:40:08.000Okay, then a baby has a 14th Amendment right not to be killed.
01:40:11.000Um, if it's the mother that's having an abortion with a, that's not a human, uh, at that legally, then we're, I'm just talking about the law and that you got to leave it up to this.
01:40:19.000I think you got to leave it up to local law enforcement, like this broken policing, broken windows, policing policy.
01:40:23.000Wasn't the feds going in there and breaking up New York.
01:40:36.000A baby that can survive- I don't like abortion, and I'm pro-choice simply because there are very, very difficult libertarian questions on when the government is allowed to intervene, what knowledge the government is allowed to have, and within a certain time period, the mother and the doctor are having to make difficult decisions, and I also agree that abortion is exploited as contraception, which I think is disgusting.
01:40:56.000However, at a certain point, if the baby can survive on its own, then I think killing it violates inalienable rights, constitutional rights.
01:41:02.000And my stance then would be, if the baby has to come out of the mother anyway, why kill it if it can survive on its own?
01:42:30.000I would be more comfortable with you if you would just be honest and say, if life, human life is inconvenient for me, the mom or the dad, I feel I should be able to exterminate it.
01:42:40.000I'll debate you on it, but at least you're honest.
01:43:04.000We used to have this thing in my high school, I went to a Catholic high school, double quotes, two quotes that were related, you have to think of something clever.
01:43:31.000I'm just saying, like, I'm not taking that chance, man.
01:43:34.000You really want to go up there one day in front of the pearly gates and be like, yeah, I wiped out six kids, had six abortions, and I'm an abortion doctor, and I wiped out 2,000 lives?
01:43:44.000I'm not sure you're getting into that movie.
01:43:46.000I'm pretty sure you're kind of fucked.
01:44:45.000There's a lot of serious challenges there.
01:44:47.000So the problem is, if a woman is forcefully impregnated and says, I never wanted this, I don't want it, and you can't force me to share my body with another life form, I don't think the government can intervene and be like, nope, we are forcing you to provide your blood and body to this person that you never chose and you were responsible in every respect.
01:45:05.000The challenge then is, what do they do?
01:45:07.000They exploit the law for contraception, which is disgusting.
01:45:54.000That doesn't absolve us of the responsibility of answering really difficult questions like, yes, this woman is carrying a pregnancy she does not want, that was imposed upon her in a brutal act.
01:46:04.000But that does not, that does not absolve us of the fact that we are then killing a child.
01:46:10.000And someone asked me this once, this changed my mind on this completely.
01:46:14.000I was at this convention there, and someone came up to me, he was a big pro-life advocate, but a very nice guy, very super nice guy.
01:46:22.000And he said, well, why not just kill the toddler?
01:46:33.000So this is the question that I asked these leftists.
01:46:35.000I said, two women conceive at the exact same time, identically.
01:46:40.000They're twin sisters who had twin brothers who both conception at the exact same moment.
01:46:46.000At eight and a half months, one woman is going into early labor because, uh, you know, rough car ride, something shocked, and then, you know, she, some trauma, and boom, baby's coming.
01:46:55.000Other sister, totally fine, sitting in the hospital, bad baby's not coming.
01:46:58.000I said, at eight and a half months, the baby comes out and is delivered perfectly healthy.
01:47:02.000The identical baby, in every single way, still in the womb.
01:47:58.000Uh, Paul Tascalo says, Epstein's former Gulfstream G5550 private jet is currently available for charter, sold at auction, changed registration and tail number, let me tell you more about it, look me up, PJ Paul with Vault Aviation.
01:48:12.000Gulfstream, I'm gonna avoid those from now on.
01:48:15.000Like, I've ever broke one and they're like, we have a plane for you, it's a Gulfstream G5550 private jet, I'm gonna be like, No.
01:48:21.000You're being recorded on that subject.
01:49:25.000Well, I want people to feel like when they support us, we're doing everything we can with our resources to win the culture war and not being frivolous with it.
01:49:32.000But the reality is, if we fly down to do your show, the only way that's possible is if we get a private jet.
01:49:45.000But it's like, uh, you know, I wake up at a.m.
01:49:47.000I do the show then I work throughout the day We're at the show at 11 p.m.
01:49:50.000And then we have a plane waiting for us We have to speed to to get on so that I can get get to bed to wake up This is what we had to do for the value attainment show.
01:49:58.000I'm like, yeah, I want to come down I want to come on the show.
01:50:00.000I want to talk about these things to an audience.
01:50:02.000I mean that Patrick Yeah, he's amazing.
01:50:05.000He was on my Fox show a couple of times.
01:50:07.000He was awesome He's a really good guest man In order to do it, we wrap the show on Friday, hop in the car and go as fast as we can to the local airport, hop on a private jet, fly to Miami.
01:50:17.000I get five hours of sleep before I have to wake up, get cleaned up, hop on a show and talk for another four hours, and then no day off because I'm working again.
01:50:23.000Well, I told you during the break, for us it doesn't make sense to do it otherwise, because let's say we're doing a certain amount of revenue per show.
01:50:31.000For me to fly and get caught in an airport and then miss two or three shows, it winds up becoming I'm like the most ridiculous money loser ever, so.
01:50:38.000And you know, if you shop around, you get decent prices.
01:50:41.000It's not as bad as everybody thinks it is, you know?
01:51:19.000Jake says, I'm fairly certain that right around the time Epstein was picked up, Acosta said on camera that he was approached and told Epstein was above his pay grade and belonged to intelligence.
01:53:27.000When it comes to political podcasting, on our side, the libertarian right side, right?
01:53:32.000If me, you, and let's say a few of those others combine forces, I mean, we could start a behemoth mammoth of a company that would scare the living shit out of just about everyone in the political business.
01:53:44.000I was just thinking we should do a live event, do some collaborative.
01:53:48.000We got big news on the Miami event coming up, which I'm pretty sure I can just say As of right now, it is my understanding, I am told, Matt Gaetz, Don Jr., and Patrick Bedavid are confirmed for our live show in Miami.
01:55:43.000I don't know what the Militia Act is, but anything... I mean, if your sheriff is elected, it's a good idea to be pro-your-sheriff, and make sure that the guy that gets elected is good.
01:55:53.000So if there's a guy that's running that's good, like, help him out, you know?
01:55:56.000Dude, when the Abolish the Police thing was going viral, I tweeted, Abolish the Police, and then the next... I responded with, and bring back militias.
01:56:05.000But the point of this tweet was to exemplify what the left was asking for with quote-unquote community policing.
01:57:24.000Seamus Coghlan said on the show that, I don't want to ruin his quote because it was brutal, but he said something like, if God doesn't smite the United States, he owes Sodom and Gomorrah an apology.
01:59:08.000It may not be about today, but like, those lyrics resonate still.
01:59:11.000When it's like, they bowed and prayed to the neon god they made, I'm like, it's Twitter.
01:59:15.000It's like, you could stick, you could say that song is about Twitter.
01:59:18.000You know, people speaking without listening, people, you know, or whatever.
01:59:22.000I'm like, It really does feel like whatever it is they were looking at, because I think they were talking about the free speech movement or something like that, but I'm like... But that's when liberals were actual liberals.
02:00:11.000All weekend I've been sharing, I have pictures of this graffiti that says liberals get the bullet too, or there's scratch a liberal, scratch a liberal, a fascist bleeds.
02:00:21.000The far left believes that liberals are fascists.
02:00:26.000They see no light between liberals and fascists.
02:01:01.000But as I often say when it comes to your dog being sick and passing on, or any pet, I just view that emotion you get, that welling up, as your payment for all of the good that your pet gave you, you are now expressing and giving back, like it all built up and was released.
02:01:20.000And everybody knows this is true, that you would never trade the time you spent with your dog, your best friend, if it meant relieving that pain you're feeling when they pass.
02:01:31.000The pain you feel when they pass is worth every moment to know all of the joy and happiness they brought you.