On today's show, Luke sits down with Owen Cook to talk about the Epstein scandal, conspiracy theories about the NFL, and what's really going on with the Epstein case. Plus, Luke and Chris are joined by Ian McKellen, who is a writer, speaker, podcaster, and podcaster.
00:01:03.000Well, it's another day and yet another major cover-up of an international trafficking and extortion operation by the intelligence agencies.
00:01:28.000But the phrase that Aaron Rodgers said is something ... that of course I personally believe in that's why a couple ... months ago I made this shirt saying that if you could ... question it if it's science if it's not if you can't it's ... propaganda you could get yours exclusively on the best ... political shirts.com and because you do I'm ... here thank you so much for having me this should be a ... really interesting conversation to say the least.
00:01:50.000You know, Luke, his rant's just like that.
00:01:53.000That gives me flashbacks to, like, when you first started red-pilling me with your rants on Timcast.
00:02:10.000Chris Carr, executive editor at TimCast.com.
00:02:13.000Although I am technically Chris Carr, I'm very much feeling the energy of Ian as I sit in his chair and take in all of his crystals.
00:02:22.000There's no way for them to see that there's literally like two dozen crystals in front of Ian at all times.
00:02:26.000You really just kind of have to see the display for yourselves, but it's very powerful.
00:02:29.000polished spherical pyrite I believe and gems and I'll take a photo of it right now and put it on Twitter just so people see the amount of rocks that are laid in front of you and magic hippie stuff.
00:03:06.000I am also here in the corner pushing buttons, having fun.
00:03:09.000I was saying earlier that the crystals and the machetes right here in front of me are like yin and yang, so we're trying to keep the peace, but we have the means to do it.
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00:05:53.000They were caught allegedly looking up the news.
00:05:55.000They were caught looking for motorcycles and furniture and other expensive items where they were doing.
00:06:01.000Well, they falsified the records here and there were the ones that were supposed to be doing the rounds, checking on Epstein, making sure that, of course, he did not hurt himself in any way, shape, or form.
00:06:11.000And, of course, they absolutely failed on that job.
00:06:16.000The video footage of his first alleged attempt to hurt himself was literally Destroyed and not found under the hands of the authorities that of course later came out with a statement by James Comey's daughter and said, oh, no, we just we just lost the tapes.
00:06:33.000There was of course a second attempt attempt, whatever may happen.
00:06:37.000We don't know because again, these guards were allegedly too busy looking to buy motorcycles to find out.
00:06:43.000So again, the evidence here is being once again destroyed and the fact that these guards Had their charges dropped by the federal government ... shows you just how complicit how disgusting how ... rotten the system is and how they want you to forget this ... very important story the story of the decade when the ... mainstream media was promoting Jeffrey Epstein.
00:07:03.000As some kind of great philanthropist they were ... promoting him as some kind of big money guy a Wall Street ... guy a hedge fund guy.
00:07:12.000McCain, knew that he was up to extremely awful, horrible things, and everyone within the government knew what he was doing.
00:07:18.000The FBI knew since the 90s, and they were sitting on their hands as thousands of children were being hurt and literally sacrificed at the altar for the ruling elites to do whatever they wanted to in horrible, disgusting ways.
00:07:29.000And I've got a lot more to say about this than Prince Andrew's connected to this, but you've got to say something, Tim.
00:07:33.000I've got to say something very important for everybody who's listening to this segment.
00:07:37.000The reason this story is dropping just before New Year's Eve.
00:07:41.000Viewership is going to be down across the board.
00:08:36.000But people, you need to make sure that people hear this story.
00:08:39.000Because as big as it was when we heard Epstein was no longer alive in his prison cell, the story that the guards are having their charges dropped needs to be just as big.
00:08:48.000And we're fighting a massive 30-foot wall from sea to shining sea keeping this information out, and that is releasing it on a holiday.
00:08:56.000This is absolutely a criminal cover-up and nothing else.
00:09:00.000Why did the government say, hey, these people that are responsible for thousands of children never getting justice, these guards that are responsible for these men that hurt children in unspeakable ways never facing justice, these guards are the ones responsible for it.
00:09:15.000They have so much weighing on their decisions that night ... and they're not going to be held responsible for one of ... the biggest injustices in our legal justice system I mean ... Epstein was in the hands of the authorities they had ... everything he would have spoken he would have leaked ... names he had.
00:09:32.000The profiles he had the DVDs he had the CDs he had the ... hard drives on so many prominent individuals that of ... course he surveilled he had so much blackmail so much power ... so much truth and the federal government is squashing it ... making sure you will never see it and that is utterly ... disgusting because your tax dollars.
00:09:49.000Your ignorance literally allowed some of the worst human atrocities to happen on the face of this earth that were sanctioned, stamped on by the approval of the federal authorities, by the police officers, the prosecutors, the judges, the politicians, the regulators, all of them were involved here.
00:10:03.000And this system is rotten to its core.
00:10:05.000And to see this major story break now on a Thursday, right before New Year's, this is deliberate.
00:10:20.000Well, the thing that I think about in issues like this is why has society become so apathetic?
00:10:24.000What is it, I mean, oh, this is a little bit, you know, tangential, but like, what is it in our food system that makes us so apathetic towards this?
00:10:32.000What is it about our day-to-day boring drive to work that makes us so apathetic?
00:10:39.000What is it about the, you know, the, the over stimulation that we see in society that makes us not care about this?
00:10:46.000So, and then from that standpoint, if you can kind of pull out a little bit, what could the average person even do?
00:10:51.000Let's say that this had broken during a peak news cycle.
00:10:54.000What could the average person even do about it to where they're not so demoralized that they just sit there and go, I don't know, what do you want me to do?
00:11:00.000And then they just get back to the, to the bread and circus.
00:11:02.000You know, I was just thinking, we should do a skit, like the movie Don't Look Up.
00:11:07.000So in the movie, you know, I guess spoiler alert, it's not that big of a spoiler, because if you know, if you've read what the movie's about, it's just people saying like, there's a there's a meteor, a comet gonna hit the earth, and they go on, they go on TV, and the people on TV are like, uh huh.
00:11:18.000I think it would be fascinating to have a similar sketch where it's like Luke goes on a talk show and he's like, powerful global elites are flying on these planes including the former president, two former presidents, you've got one of the wealthiest men in the world, there are children being trafficked, and they're like, That's so crazy!
00:11:42.000Even for a funny skit video, instead of the asteroid coming to destroy Earth, it's a whole bunch of hopped up billionaires that are ready to do horrible things to small children, and there's an epidemic of them going wild, literally having their way and doing unspeakable things and hurting children.
00:11:56.000Like 50 Bill Gates marching through the streets.
00:12:00.000Bill Gates gets a mutation device where he replicates and there's thousands of them and they're all going on and like like a pandemic of the zombies but instead of zombies they do other unspeakable things especially to little children and then there's no future and then we can make this like a no future because there's no more children because the Bill Gates's and the other horrible people have their ways with them but there's also a lot of other important details here that we got to talk about with Prince Andrew.
00:12:21.000I'll say one more thing and I'll throw it to you on Prince Andrew.
00:12:22.000I just want to let people know that when Luke wakes up in the morning, well, I shouldn't say in the morning, when Luke wakes up just around the crack of noon, and he's very groggy and tired, and I'm like, I gotta get sky whipped into shape, there's actually one magic word I can say to make it so that Luke instantly is in 110%.
00:12:38.000He's like walking around, he's in his pajamas, and he's like, I'm tired, man, you got any coffee?
00:12:43.000And then he just goes off and he's 100% I'm like he's ready for the day how in the world can you not
00:12:48.000About that. This is pretty important. You just said there so if you when you study spiritual growth just books like
00:12:53.000Power okay power versus force that you can look up and they talk about how
00:12:58.000One of the lowest levels in human consciousness is apathy, right?
00:13:02.000And the next level above that is anger.
00:13:04.000And so in many ways I think the mainstream media plays into that where if somebody's in an apathetic mode and then you put a story about love or peace or joy or fun, that doesn't resonate.
00:13:13.000What energizes us in my little thing that I do, I call it a derp state.
00:13:17.000basically this apathetic derpy state that most of us are in, and they will have to fight our way out of.
00:13:22.000What happens is that the media knows that, makes people angry, and so we're kind of stuck
00:13:26.000in this thing where it's hard to get people to that next level, right?
00:13:30.000So in spiritual growth, if you've ever read Eckhart Tolle, he calls, his second book is called A New Earth,
00:13:35.000you know, and a lot of people talk about that.
00:13:37.000Like what would a better world actually look like?
00:13:40.000And when most of us are eating the wrong foods, and we're spaced out, and we're in apathy,
00:13:44.000and then you hear about Jeffrey Epstein, I mean, let's be, like I loved your point, you said, Tim,
00:13:48.000and I took a huge amount of knowledge from that, but then I honestly do wonder,
00:13:51.000even if that had been posted on a major news day, would anything have even happened?
00:13:56.000I mean, it is so much in your face, I'm probably more widowed.
00:14:15.000The point is, A lot of people were just like, whoa.
00:14:19.000And so that may not have a direct effect on will they go outside and protest, but it'll probably have a big impact on what they read in the news and could shift culture very, very much so.
00:14:28.000I like to say taken out because there's many interpretations where you could kind of allude to what happened here.
00:14:33.000But this is a key linchpin story that has a lot of people's confidence in the entire system hanging in the balance because people understand If your system if your tax dollars if your police ... officers your judges your prosecutors are literally out ... there participating aiding and abetting or looking the ... other way as children are being hurt in unspeakable ways ... that's a system that does not have any trust within it and ... this is why the when this story broke there was a huge ... response to this not by the corporate media not even by ... the big tech social media people have to force the ... hashtag Jeffrey Epstein didn't.
00:15:07.000Blank himself that hashtag went almost everywhere corporate media was forced to cover it and the kind of veil surrounding this entire system started to unfold because people started to see how people how things really work in Washington DC.
00:15:23.000You know that bill that's very popular?
00:15:24.000Populist policies that never get passed?
00:15:41.000We got the tip of the iceberg with Jeffrey Epstein, and the rabbit hole goes a lot deeper.
00:15:45.000So what can the average person do about this?
00:15:48.000Their attention, their energy, just even understanding this is extremely powerful, because the system can't function if not enough people believe in them.
00:15:57.000I was just going to say that, like, that's something that's really bothering me, too.
00:16:07.000Yes, being red-pilled on this whole story is pretty important, but maybe at some level it would help people feel like they could sort of If they see this on the national level, and they see how deep it is, and how corrosive the whole system can be with an issue like this, then maybe it would make them think, well, I can't let this happen at the local level, you know?
00:16:25.000I mean, because, like, they can't do anything about Manhattan if they're in the Midwest somewhere, but they could be aware of, wow, if it could happen there, then it can happen here, and they're gonna do whatever they can to get engaged in local politics and local school boards and figure out ways to make sure that there's accountability when bad stuff happens.
00:16:40.000It's not just about voting, it's not just about getting involved or anything like that.
00:16:44.000If one day, let's just put it this way, let's say tomorrow we woke up and literally every single person in this country was actively against critical race praxis in schools, it would be gone.
00:16:55.000Because all of a sudden even Democrats would be like, we are going to lose because people are so strongly against this.
00:17:01.000Everybody who heard that story about these prison guards and immediately regular people who are not in politics were like, yo, what the just happened?
00:17:10.000That's a moment where people might just say very simply, I'm not going to put money towards certain things.
00:17:16.000I'm going to read different news sources.
00:17:17.000It can cause such a major cultural shift that I think an important point that Luke brought up is confidence in a system is the only way the system can function.
00:17:25.000So if one day everybody woke up and felt that the US dollar had no value, it would literally have no value.
00:17:32.000So when people get this news, it changes their perception.
00:17:36.000It can strip confidence away from the system.
00:17:38.000That's why they put it out just before New Year's Eve when nobody's paying attention.
00:17:42.000And if the government cared about you or your children or just innocent children at all, they wouldn't went to those guards and they would have said, okay, what happened here?
00:18:12.000We don't know, because again, a lot of this, as Tim is saying, was specifically scheduled in a way so not enough people know about this.
00:18:18.000They're afraid of more people finding out about this, and this is why, if the feds really cared about you, they would have went to Maxwell, and they would have been like, okay, you were the procurer, who did you procure who to?
00:18:31.000Tell us, and we'll give you a lesser sentence.
00:18:33.000One of those individuals, admittedly, is the man who doesn't sweat at all, doesn't have any sweat glands, according to him, is of course Mr. Prince, Andrew, the Queen's son, the Queen and the royal family have a lot of connections to really awful people who do very similar things that Epstein did, by the way.
00:18:49.000Epstein is not the first person connected to the royal family that does these awful, horrible things.
00:18:53.000There's a picture of Epstein and Maxwell at the Queen's cottage.
00:18:58.000There's a picture of Kevin Spacey and Ghislaine Maxwell sitting on the throne.
00:19:05.000How many of these people are interconnected?
00:19:09.000The way that I think about it, when you run a business, basically the way most businesses function is you keep gradually increasing the price and then what you do is you tend to shrink what it is that you're giving and then you wait until customers stop buying, right?
00:19:22.000So there was freedoms that were won for us by people largely in the past and what happened is is that the establishment can begin to infringe on those freedoms or even flaunt this nonsense in our face And as long as there's no boundary, that will keep going, right?
00:19:37.000Because if you're in a business, and then you just keep raising the price, raising the price, at a certain, you're like, they're just gonna let us keep raising the price.
00:19:42.000Say you sell orange juice, you keep giving less and less orange juice, the point is like one drop, right?
00:19:47.000And then you're like, they're gonna buy a drop for $100?
00:19:51.000And so what's happening is that back in the day, when the kind of people lived in our society who would have had some kind of a boundary, They can't just push the envelope like they have in 2020, like they have with Epstein, all this different kind of stuff.
00:20:02.000But I look at myself, so, you know, me and Luke are friends, and I've been listening to what he's saying for years, Tim, I've watched what you're saying for years, and I'm like, it's like, okay, I'm sold.
00:20:14.000And I do, and I make videos about it, and I have a new video series about it, and all that kind of stuff.
00:20:18.000But I just... Like, when I'm teaching a seminar, for example, in personal growth, what we try to do is get people to buy into this idea that they should improve, and then we give them a direction on what to do.
00:20:28.000For somebody who... So, for me watching this, it's like me watching a seminar with this incredible theory But what do you do?
00:21:11.000If every single person in this country was focused on this story right now, and believed something wrong was happening, the politicians would be sweating bullets.
00:21:18.000They could only get away with it if people are not paying attention to what they're doing.
00:21:23.000With that attention, it is leading to some circumstances.
00:21:26.000Ghislaine Maxwell, awful person, according to all her accusers, is going away.
00:21:33.000If we were totally blind to this entire situation, that operation would have been going on.
00:21:38.000VH1 was making documentary pieces about how great Epstein was, how much money he had, and people were falling for that trap, and there was people coming to him with their children and be like, Cool.
00:21:49.000We want to hang out not knowing that this is a big monster that will hurt you that the more we know about these monsters.
00:21:55.000There's a reason Bill Gates spends hundreds of millions of dollars buying off the corporate media.
00:22:25.000Before we end, I want to talk about Prince Andrew because this also is the breaking of the dam of this entire establishment system that is so disgusting and has so much blackmail in it because Andrew's lawyers are now holding emergency talks.
00:22:38.000There's the victim's defense lawyer who said that Andrew should be shaking in his boots.
00:22:43.000He just filed a motion to make sure that all of the witness testimony including his deposition is kept secret from the general public.
00:22:51.000This has never been heard from before.
00:22:53.000He's facing a civil suit in the United States.
00:22:59.000We're still waiting for him to be deposed and when he's deposed he's going to be sitting there in front of the lawyers representing the victims the children here that were hurt here and he's going to have to answer some serious questions and there's a lot of them including how the Royal Protection officers literally destroyed evidence to his alibi.
00:23:19.000There is a lot of dirty, disgusting things happening here.
00:23:22.000And it's only our ability to talk about it, get it out there, that is able to stop a lot of this in its tracks.
00:23:36.000That's why I've brought it up so much.
00:23:37.000So please, guys, if you're hearing this, keep this fresh in your mind.
00:23:40.000Keep a tab open in your browser with the story and get ready to share it in the next week or so to let people know you got to pay attention to this stuff.
00:23:49.000Because these are evil people doing evil things.
00:24:01.000What happened here in this specific instant is an absolute horrible case of government out of control that is absolutely unaccountable.
00:24:09.000This is a potential item that could bring us all together against the powers that be that truly do run things and truly make things miserable for for us and it shatters that divide and conquer agenda.
00:24:20.000That's why I talk about this so much and I get so passionate about it because it's so important.
00:24:23.000Let me give a shout out to Hassan Piker.
00:24:33.000He said, my thoughts are with the Clinton family in this trying time as their close and personal best friend, pictured front and center at Chelsea Clinton's wedding, is going to federal prison for sex trafficking minors.
00:24:45.000And according to one report I saw, I haven't fact checked this one, apparently the wedding was like, invite only, no strangers allowed, so, yeah.
00:24:52.000Yeah, this does bring the left and the right together, very much so.
00:24:56.000And there's a viral tweet, a tweet that went viral, it was posted all over Reddit, And someone said, if Joe Biden was involved with Epstein, then he should go to prison.
00:25:05.000If Donald Trump was involved with Epstein, he should go to prison.
00:25:51.000It happened deliberately in a way, so we do not pay attention to it.
00:25:55.000And when they're doing all this, it's showing that their propaganda is extremely important for everything that they're doing and it could be stopped with the truth.
00:26:02.000Alright, well, let's move on to the next story.
00:26:04.000It's really hard to get away from that stuff.
00:26:12.000And Bannon said that Alex Jones was on the forefront of the transhumanism stuff before everybody.
00:26:17.000And then he shows a clip of Alex from several years ago, just screaming that interdimensional demons have possessed people and are sending the message.
00:26:33.000And, oh, that's, I just brought that up for no reason, just to mention that it was funny.
00:26:36.000But we have this story about Alex Jones.
00:26:38.000Alex Jones threatens to dish dirt on pathetic Donald Trump for pushing vaccines and tells his InfoWars listeners to move on from the Republican 2024 frontrunner.
00:26:49.000Alex Jones said Wednesday that he will dish all the dirt on Donald Trump now that the former president has come out more definitively in favor of vaccinations.
00:28:37.000Fauci is also saying Donald Trump is doing the right thing here and singing Trump's praises.
00:28:42.000So when you're on the same side as Biden and Fauci and promoting a big pharma out of control Unaccountable, huge institution that doesn't have any liability.
00:28:52.000There should be a lot of questions here.
00:28:54.000And what Donald Trump said wasn't backed by science.
00:29:58.000And Donald Trump cares more about the opinion of the New York Times than his own constituents.
00:30:02.000I think that was true with the hiring of John Bolton, with the refusal to fire Fauci, and even now.
00:30:09.000When there was an interview and they're like, why didn't you fire Fauci?
00:30:11.000I can't remember where it was on, it might've been Candace Owens, but he was just like, oh, you know how the left gets, and people were like, are you kidding?
00:30:17.000I don't know what's going to happen in 2024, but I'll tell you this.
00:30:21.000Donald Trump was the avatar of the rage of populist moderates in this country, and if there's nowhere to place that rage, it's going to go wild.
00:30:29.000Donald Trump specifically said eight days ago that those who don't get the shots, those dying in the hospitals, didn't get the shot.
00:30:40.000There's a lot of information coming out, whether it's the New York Times, Daily Mail, or even this latest Robert Koch Institute report that kind of cite the opposite of that.
00:30:49.000And there's a lot of debate surrounding that.
00:31:11.000So it's within a paradigm that you don't have, if you have no, if you're in a paradigm that
00:31:15.000you have no control over your health or your wellbeing, right?
00:31:18.000If you're unhealthy and you believe that there's just this standard American diet that you
00:31:22.000can eat and that's it, that's just life, then that is a solution within that paradigm.
00:31:28.000Other people, you know, in the natural health world, this is viewed as laughable.
00:31:32.000Like if you start following natural healthy people that, you know, are incredibly vibrant, right, and you start following them, just follow them on Instagram.
00:31:40.000Look up the top 10 natural health people that have Credible health, incredibly vibrant.
00:31:44.000I mean, have you ever heard of Wim Hof, maybe?
00:31:46.000It'd be amazing if you could get him on the show, you know?
00:31:49.000But what's funny is, I bet that you couldn't even bring anybody to talk about anything natural on this show, because you couldn't even broadcast it.
00:31:57.000So, I mean, there's so much... Yeah, YouTube will take you down.
00:31:58.000Yeah, like, I haven't been sick in 10 years so much as a common cold, but I'm not going to get into that.
00:32:03.000So you've got to understand that this is a paradigm that they're in, and this is the problem with not having free speech, is that somebody could be correct within a paradigm, but then there could be this whole other paradigm in which there's another way of seeing it.
00:32:19.000And the people who delete videos on social media are typically not versed in politics and can't tell the difference between certain issues.
00:32:28.000A good example is, there was a post on Instagram, it was a famous Pro-LGBTQ poem that used slurs, but it was like attacking the slur and then attacking those who would use it.
00:32:41.000This person who posted it got banned and they were like, this is like a very famous poem from the 70s.
00:32:46.000And Instagram was like, we don't know, we don't care.
00:32:49.000Then you get, there was this really funny thing that happened when a bunch of white feminists started posting kill all men on Facebook and Facebook started banning them all.
00:32:56.000And they were like, wait, why are you doing this?
00:33:03.000The dude in India, who is working on this click farm, reading through this stuff, doesn't know anything about American culture, just sees words he was told to delete, and he deletes them.
00:33:15.000And many times, even including corporate media reports, that power is abused.
00:33:20.000People have been putting their own kind of perspective their own kind of religious ideologies when it comes to censoring information on the internet and that has been used because a lot of these big tech companies outsource it to different countries and when different countries have different cultural issues they implement those cultural issues sometimes when it comes to the censorship but what happened to Dr. Robert Malone is absolutely But he went on, did he go on Rogan today?
00:33:42.000According to many sources, yes, he did go on Rogan and there's going to be a video published of that.
00:33:47.000There's a previous video with, of course, not Robert Malone, but there's another doctor that just Joe Rogan interviewed,
00:33:54.000that's called McCullough. Those videos were also censored on YouTube when McCullough uploaded it on his own YouTube
00:34:16.000Peter Dinklage, who said the reason people didn't like the show is because they wanted the white people to get married or something like that.
00:34:37.000But before we get into that, before we talk about that, Again, the censorship is totally out of control, and Glenn Greenwald really had a great comment about this.
00:34:47.000He says, I have a sigh of relief knowing I'm ad-libbing here, that I'm protected by college-wearing flip-flop people drinking Starbucks away from scientific debate, keeping us safe from any kind of rational intellectual discourse here.
00:35:03.000He didn't say it that way, but he said something like that to that tone.
00:35:08.000And the people he would have on his show, people who are not prominent, and people who had despicable ideas, and he would put them on this major show, show all the people of the world watching, I was at CNN when he was doing the show, and they would be like, these people are nuts.
00:36:00.000Either it is they care so much more about making money, so they will delete anything remotely controversial, creating this hyperpolarization or a form of it, or they like creating the hyperpolarization and there's something nefarious behind it.
00:36:16.000Yeah, in the natural health world, the big frustration is that this could have been a moment to get people to look at health and vitality.
00:36:24.000So the natural health world, you have people that are not only, again, I'm kind of dancing around some things here, but it's like massively just infused with vitality.
00:36:33.000I mean, if you've seen the Wim Hof videos of him hiking up Mount Everest in his underwear, right?
00:36:38.000Incredible things that you could be doing so this could have been this this big moment
00:36:41.000And it didn't have to be mutually exclusive it didn't have to be big pharma or natural
00:36:45.000But we could have just included that in the conversation you could have the whole country becoming healthier than
00:36:50.000ever and mandating I don't know don't mandate it, but I'm just saying there's
00:36:53.000that meme where it's like You know doctors
00:36:57.000You you can't talk about recommending exercise proper diet sunlight vitamin D
00:37:02.000Even though Fauci himself has brought some of this up for the most part. It's not a part of the equation in the
00:37:07.000mainstream There's only one solution, and that solution is vaccination.
00:37:10.000My response is, I mean, even Fauci's talked about vitamin D and the importance of it, but then these politicians, and Fauci included, want lockdowns, which put people in boxes with no sunlight, they get no vitamin D.
00:38:03.000We're not here to tell you what to do, but, but, you know, these conversations we should be having in an open platform and we can't even really do that.
00:38:10.000So, this is why it's important to be, this is why the censorship is bad, and I think everyone gets this, but I'll just iterate it, or reiterate it.
00:38:17.000When I call the doctor, I get COVID, and the doctor says, it's a virus, go to bed.
00:38:24.000I ended up talking to Joe Rogan, because I knew he got some kind of treatment, and then he said, look man, find a better doctor, call somebody.
00:38:32.000And then I called another private practice out here, and I talked to a doctor, and they said, I want you to take these specific medications.
00:39:00.000The doctor says, I want you to do this.
00:39:02.000And that person says, no doc, I won't because Don Lemon told me not to.
00:39:05.000Is there going to be like a wrongful death suit when CNN makes fun of Joe Rogan for taking horse dewormer and it makes people not want to get medicated?
00:39:14.000My concern is that people in Africa who need ivermectin for river blindness will now think it's some kind of sterilizing agent because a bunch of journalists reported that it was.
00:39:45.000Aaron Rodgers, who famously took ivermectin and a concoction of other drugs to fight COVID, says he's 100% sure NFL teams are recommending his same medical regimen to players to get over the virus.
00:39:56.000The Packers superstar made the claim Tuesday on the Pat McAfee Show, insisting that he knows for a fact teams believe his method of staving off coronavirus can work.
00:40:09.000There are many teams who are using, who are recommending a lot of the same treatments that I got for their players.
00:40:15.000As we reported, Roger said after he contracted coronavirus in November that he used a combination of drugs similar to Joe Rogan to recover from the virus quickly.
00:40:21.000I'm going to tell you this, and we always say it.
00:40:24.000I don't care for Aaron Rodgers' medical advice.
00:40:28.000I do find his opinions on how he was treated interesting.
00:40:32.000Now, if I'm going to take action, it's not going to be because Joe Rogan told me to ingest something.
00:40:37.000In fact, when Joe Rogan said, take it seriously and try calling, you know, find another doctor, I said, I'll take it seriously because I don't want to end up in a hospital or something like that.
00:40:46.000And I found a doctor who said monoclonal antibodies.
00:40:49.000I said, I know that is an EUA authorized treatment.
00:40:57.000They also said they wanted to take us a bunch of other drugs, including ivermectin, to which I said, I don't think I need it, because the monoclonal antibodies, in my view, worked within 12 hours.
00:41:21.000The problem is, When people in the NFL are getting that same prescription from doctors, but regular people are being told not to follow their own doctor's orders because of YouTube, because of CNN, because of Don Lemon, we're going to have very serious problems in this country.
00:41:39.000Because I will say, your doctor should be the person prescribing this to you.
00:41:43.000And then you look at what they're talking about.
00:41:45.000Didn't Joe Rogan also say that Congress got similar treatment?
00:41:48.000Something is wrong when we can't have a conversation about what this is, when doctors are prescribing it, when high-profile institutions are reportedly prescribing it, but you're banned for bringing it up.
00:42:00.000And they're getting better, and everyone else is told to go home.
00:42:03.000We haven't even prioritized early treatment, and secretly, the NFL, so no one finds out, according to Aaron Rodgers, is doing the treatments that the mainstream media, the establishment, the politicians are telling you not to take.
00:43:21.000You don't get to the point where you're in cash flow deficits.
00:43:24.000You don't get to the point where you're behind on paying your staff.
00:43:28.000You want to have this big cash reserve where you're ahead of the game and you have such a big cash reserve that if you lose a little bit of cash it doesn't hurt your business.
00:43:35.000So the eastern philosophy of health is that you get so far ahead in your health that if you take a little knock It's not going to impact you the same way that if you're behind.
00:43:55.000And you think people like LeBron James and Tom Brady who know this, you think that they're not aware of it and they have to make a decision.
00:44:10.000Yeah, Tom's just like, oh yeah, I did it.
00:44:12.000I mean, so the point being is like, imagine a system where somebody as famous and powerful as LeBron James or Tom Brady might even feel uncomfortable to give their actual opinion about these things.
00:44:24.000Somebody like Aaron Rodgers, he just kind of old school.
00:44:26.000He's like, well, you know, like he doesn't even know what's going on.
00:44:30.000He doesn't even know the change in culture that's happened.
00:44:33.000Um, and people like Aaron Rodgers that are more and more old school, there's going to be less and less of them as time goes on and less things change.
00:44:38.000Yeah, the establishment treatment for this is the vaccine.
00:44:41.000We also have to understand that... No, no, not treatment, a preventative.
00:44:45.000Yeah, the establishment's answer to all of this is the vaccine, right?
00:44:50.000There's vaccine mandates within the NFL, within the NBA, which also should be sparking a lot of questions like, okay, they're all vaccinated.
00:44:57.000What's really going on here when they're still getting sick here and they're professional athletes in the top of their health?
00:45:02.000That should be a question that we should at least be able to kind of even talk about or conceive.
00:45:09.000I'm not going to pretend that just because he said something is definitive, we would need to do some fact-checking and get some confirmation.
00:45:37.000But I do have some questions about what's happening with the majority of New Yorkers who are vaccinated but still getting sick.
00:45:45.000That can't be a breakthrough case anymore, can it?
00:45:47.000Could it just be that the vaccine isn't stopping the variants at all?
00:45:50.000Well, again, we don't know a lot of this because a lot of the data is being hidden away from us.
00:45:55.000The CDC director just announced after major corporations asked her to to to stop the quarantine from 10 days to five days.
00:46:02.000She just came out on CNN today and said, quote, it really had a lot to do with what we thought people would be able to tolerate, explaining her decision to why she shortened the quarantine time after major corporations asked her to do so.
00:46:53.000So I'm just waiting for that Van Hammer any moment because they're just like, someone at YouTube, I'll tell you what's going to happen because we've seen to other people.
00:47:14.000Look, maybe just the system is imploding.
00:47:16.000Maybe at some point, when we had all these different channels, when we had like five different channels, and all the news came from these very specific sources, it was easy to control a narrative.
00:47:27.000It's just Smaller tribes throwing mud at each other and YouTube is like they've got a lot of power And so like we're banning all of this.
00:47:34.000Meanwhile, the NFL is doing this It's like I don't even know I don't even know how you define what's mainstream anymore is a celebrity famous.
00:48:12.000So you know what it feels like to have somebody completely cut you out of context, make you take jokes that you said that you didn't even mean, turn you into a cartoon character.
00:48:21.000I mean, look what's happened to Alex Jones.
00:48:22.000You mentioned Alex Jones before, who I learned about from your show.
00:48:25.000And it's like, look at what's been done to him.
00:48:33.000What I do is I try to do the courtesy of somebody who I disagree with.
00:48:36.000I try to do the steel man argument for what they're doing.
00:48:39.000So if you look at something like censorship, I ask myself, okay, what is the steel man argument for that much of a violation of the First Amendment?
00:50:02.000So then imagine a world where big tech didn't censor and then all of a sudden some super charismatic person is like, you know, take the pear!
00:50:12.000And then everyone's like, So it's kind of coming from a mindset that the average person is too naive and dumb not to fall in with somebody who's very charismatic.
00:50:25.000And so what that tells me, if you value the First Amendment, is you've got to start saying to yourself, well, why is it that people are being framed as stupid?
00:50:36.000And what would it take to get our population to a point where they are capable of seeing multiple different arguments and not going pear, pear, pear, pear?
00:50:43.000Like, what does it take to get to that point?
00:50:44.000What do we have to change in our education system to get to that point?
00:50:48.000Because the ultimate answer could never be getting rid of the First Amendment.
00:51:25.000I'm willing to accept certain risks to have my freedom and I would never tell you not to go out to eat because I'm scared.
00:51:33.000The other side of this are the people who live in big cities who are like, I'm scared so you shouldn't be able to go out and get food.
00:51:40.000The two different factions are basically, are you demanding someone else take action for you, or are you willing to take action for yourself and to protect others?
00:51:52.000I live in Hollywood, in Los Angeles, and I'll be on the street, and if I don't have a mask on, You'll hear people shrieking out the window, like, put on your mask!
00:51:59.000And you can almost tell it's somebody who's never had status before, and they finally have the ability, like, they've always wished, like, that day is coming when I'm gonna get to yell at people and put them in their place, right?
00:52:09.000You can almost feel it in their nervous system that they're not used to being able to do that, and they finally get to run up on you and say, put that on right now!
00:52:17.000They don't have, their opinion is not based on any real critical thinking, but they've just got that big moment You know, just to make a problem and so on and so forth.
00:52:27.000And the thing that it did to me, living in LA, was that it alienated me from Los Angeles in a great way because being around so many people that don't have critical thinking and that just kind of go along with that, I found it to be terrifying.
00:52:41.000And it got to the point that even with my children, I started just traveling the country and bringing my kids outside into Montana, you know, where there's grizzly bears, and teach them how to manage themselves around wildlife, and teach them critical thinking, because I'm terrified that there's been a breach in the social contract.
00:52:56.000I just believe that, you know, the people who we could normally look up to and just say, okay, they've got our best interest, there's been a breach in that, and so now I've got to train my children, like, A, think for yourself.
00:53:11.000And I also think that when you start using collective action for things that are maybe a little heavy-handed and overreach, what it does is it takes future situations that we might need collective action, like in that movie, Don't Look Up.
00:53:24.000We may need collective action, but if you're gonna be the boy who cries wolf about any little thing, then someday when we need collective action, we're not gonna trust them.
00:53:33.000And so that's creating just this total cluster of problems.
00:53:35.000That point is actually made in the film.
00:53:38.000What I really liked about Don't Look Up is, as much as I felt it was very lefty perspective, is that they didn't... I'll put it this way.
00:53:47.000Some of the arguments they made were Steel Man arguments.
00:53:55.000But there's a point in the film Where the president basically says, great, like, hole in the ozone, you know, climate change, plagues, nuclear war, terror, we've heard it all before, prove it!
00:54:08.000And I was like, we're supposed to be rooting for these scientists?
00:54:11.000Who are just like, trust this picture we have?
00:54:14.000And I'm like, that's actually not a bad point.
00:54:16.000The idea that the entire world would react and take collective action based on a handful of people who are trying to assert their right when we are a decentralized power structure, it's not so simple.
00:54:39.000And then you have literally obese people that have never taken responsibility for themselves.
00:54:44.000Have never taken care of their body who are telling me that I need to do a certain thing for them when they're not the ones that are taking care of themselves.
00:54:53.000He had other more kind of French words for it, but but he makes a very good point because a lot of these people who are screaming at you.
00:55:00.000That are telling you what to do are some of the people who haven't taken the responsibility who haven't taken that important role in their life and said okay this is something that I need to critically think about this is not something that is going to go away if everyone does what I say or if everyone wears a mask it's not it's going to go away once you start taking care of yourself we start worrying about the terrain we start talking about the treatments And again, well, what happened here with Aaron Rodgers, we got to support him.
00:55:25.000That's why I put his jersey behind me.
00:55:27.000He's getting attacked by a lot of corporate media institutions.
00:57:03.000It feels like there are scared older people who are the most susceptible, and I can respect that they're scared, but to... Let me stop right now.
00:57:19.000We actually went and filmed various stories and mini-docs about this.
00:57:23.000The elderly decided they would go into the reactor to try and stop it and clean it up, knowing it would kill them, because they said, we've lived our lives and we must do this for the young.
00:57:33.000And I'm just like, man, think about that.
00:57:36.000These are people who are like, I've lived my life, now I'm going to die to save the next generation.
00:57:42.000What we have here in Europe and the United States is the inversion of that.
00:57:46.000It's older people who are like, I don't want to get sick!
00:57:48.000Tell them to stay in their cubicles and take away their jobs and their income and their resources and give the money to Walmart.
00:57:55.000That is cultural decay to a point where I don't see us surviving.
00:58:00.000It's, um, to me the way that I've perceived this personally is like, say the right wing is pro-gun, and then you had a locust infestation, and there's locusts everywhere, and then the right wing is like, yes!
00:58:12.000And then everyone has to have a gun now!
00:58:14.000You have to have a gun, and you have to have a gun, and you have to have a gun, and you- everyone needs a gun!
00:58:44.000The extension of this logic would be like if people that are more self-responsible came along and they said, I've worked to become someone who doesn't get triggered and I'm not sensitive.
00:58:58.000You can really, really work to be Unoffendable, right?
00:59:02.000Yeah, you could just, like, I will teach, this will sound crazy, but I'll teach courses where, like, I'll have all my students put me in a circle and just start yelling insults at me, and I just have to sit there, and I have to deal with it, and then I'll get them to go in a circle, and then you realize later, like, why do I care about words?
00:59:18.000If you're not so much in your ego, if you view it as a joke, you don't take it so personally, you can actively work on that, right?
00:59:23.000So what if people who had worked on that were to say, you know, it's illegal for you to be offended, Or let's say somebody who worked on their health said, it's illegal for you not to be healthy, which is kind of what they did with the drug war, and I don't believe in that.
00:59:34.000Or what if somebody who's worked to become wealthy said, if you let yourself go broke, that's illegal because it's gonna cause a problem for me.
00:59:41.000Or what if somebody who's worked on critical thinking and how to look at multiple different arguments or misinformation and learns how to not be affected by that or influenced by that, and then I said, if you're naive, there's a mandate against being naive, right?
00:59:52.000So what they've done is they've used that kind of logic To create a situation that, frankly, I mean, you're going to have most freedom-oriented people moving to Texas, moving to Florida, moving to Wyoming.
01:00:03.000But if you've ever read the second book in the Bible, Exodus, it's beginning to look like Exodus, where people are like, I don't want to be a part of the satanic system.
01:00:35.000He's got one of the biggest podcasts in the world, but he's an investor in and utilizes specific technology companies and financial companies that won't ban him.
01:00:49.000The Media Matters guy was like, it used to just be that if there was a right winger, you could just call up your friends in the company and they'd ban them.
01:00:55.000It's not literally what he said, but you know, you get my point.
01:01:32.000Patreon banned two people without warning, taking away all of their income.
01:01:37.000This was several years ago, and it led to an exodus.
01:01:40.000And there are still people I talk to, and I'm like, like, there are people I know, people who've been on the show, and they're like, I'm on Patreon.
01:01:53.000We've criticized locals, but locals is still better than Patreon.
01:01:57.000Yeah, and this is what they do also in China.
01:01:59.000If you violate the law, if you jaywalk, they automatically with facial recognition take a photo of you and deduct money out of your bank account.
01:02:05.000In Australia, they're also going after people's bank accounts As in October, they collected $5.2 million in fines for covid violations.
01:03:27.000But we understand, and I've understood this for a long time, YouTube is actually a very low value incentive for podcasts and for businesses.
01:03:36.000This is why so many people don't care.
01:03:39.000This is why Joe Rogan only puts clips up on YouTube.
01:04:37.000Be more financially responsible, please.
01:04:39.000So here's a couple of challenges that I've seen with what you're talking about here.
01:04:42.000So one of the challenges that I've seen is that As soon as somebody would create an alternate platform, the type of people that most people wouldn't want to be associated with will initially flock there.
01:04:52.000So that creates an initial branding, right?
01:04:55.000So there's this kind of messed up argument that people don't get, in my view, which is this.
01:05:00.000Say that I say to you right now, are you pro-crime?
01:05:04.000You're going to answer, no, I'm not pro-crime.
01:05:20.000So let's say that, hypothetically, you're saying, no, I'm not pro-crime.
01:05:23.000So say that I say to you, OK, well, if you're not pro-crime, then what I'm going to do is on every single street corner, I'm going to put somebody there who's going to frisk you.
01:05:31.000Every single street corner that you go to, there's gonna be somebody there, and you know, they're gonna start, you know, they're gonna go in who knows what place to frisk you, right?
01:06:23.000So if you're trying to be pro-full-body cavity search on every single corner, all that you need to do is find five or ten really, really horrific crimes and say, look what happened to little Jimmy!
01:06:33.000And little Jimmy's like, I just want the cavity search!
01:06:35.000It's like you care about little Jimmy right and they can keep doing that again and again
01:06:39.000But it doesn't mean that you're pro crime. We got it means that the the cure is worse
01:06:43.000We got it. We got it. We got man We need to get I was talking to Seamus from freedom tunes
01:06:47.000about like comedy writing and doing some some bits and that would be a
01:06:50.000really great bit where it's like an infomercial like last year little Jimmy was attacked on the street because
01:06:56.000There were no body cavity searchers on street corners It's like really extreme security state stuff and then you
01:07:02.000get like a crying kid and it plays like Sarah McLachlan or whatever
01:07:05.000So so if you're a business and this is one when I think one of the challenges with you know
01:07:10.000The typical American individualism right where in America we say, you know, you kind of handle your own
01:07:15.000I mean what we're you know back in the day We would have said you handle your thing. I'll handle my
01:07:19.000thing So what you have is that you have on one side you have
01:07:22.000collectivism on the other side you have individualism, right?
01:07:24.000So if you're running a business and then you see another if you you see that another business was impacted by this
01:07:30.000whole little Jimmy Phenomenon you could say hey, that's BS. I
01:08:11.000The Republicans are like, one of our members of Congress said a naughty word, so we've stripped them of all committee and booted them from the party.
01:08:17.000And then Ilhan Omar is like, I'm just gonna keep talking to the Democrats who are like, we literally will do nothing.
01:08:23.000And then the funny thing is, because these people don't read the news, the Democrats just claim it's actually the Republicans doing it, and they believe it.
01:08:30.000Antifa can go around smashing windows, beating minorities, screaming racial slurs in Portland, which I've personally witnessed and has been reported numerous times, and the left will defend them tooth and nail.
01:08:44.000They literally have people getting on their knees for them in support.
01:08:46.000There's a lot of other psychologists that you were talking about.
01:09:08.000I will use my voice in the most uplifting way possible.
01:09:15.000Let me explain for those that are not watching and can only hear.
01:09:18.000It is thousands of people sitting down with their hands in the air as the preacher of social justice makes a statement and everyone just like drones, I will use my voice.
01:09:34.000Now, if you want to complain about Trump supporters all worshiping, you know, Trump and the ground he walks on, yes, but that's the exception, not the rule.
01:09:42.000There are people who are like that, but that's not the majority of people who are libertarian, moderate, or even voted for Trump.
01:09:49.000A lot of people who voted for Trump don't like the guy, but they hate the establishment and they don't want to be in your cult.
01:09:55.000So what happens when you don't feel safe within yourself is that your mind will not allow you to think beyond which opinions allow you to feel more safe.
01:10:05.000So, you know, for example, like one of the reasons why things like Christianity or religion are actually very powerful is that if you believe that you have a life beyond the body, that allows you to open your mind to a range of different thoughts because you're not because You're not as afraid of getting killed.
01:10:18.000You feel like there's something beyond this, right?
01:10:19.000But even just basic level confidence allows you to think beyond what you're just supposed to pipe back.
01:10:25.000So this concept of, say, some people call it virtue signaling, is this idea that, you know, for some people, if they don't feel safe, their mind is not scanning, saying, is this accurate?
01:11:22.000So I think that I had a moment like this in Berkeley during the riots in like 2018, where I had a GoPro and a gimbal, so I'm walking around with this little thing, I'm filming what's going on, there's police, and I'm talking to someone, when all of a sudden this woman starts talking to me.
01:11:37.000So it's arguing, not like a fierce argument, but she hears what I'm saying, she hears what I'm talking about, and then immediately starts to interject.
01:11:43.000So I turn to this woman on a public street, and she's talking, so I ask her questions.
01:11:49.000There was a woman who was attacked by Antifa and left bloody.
01:12:13.000Then, after about a minute, she runs back over to me and she goes, no, no, no, don't use any of that, don't use any of that.
01:12:17.000And I was like, you walked up to me and started talking.
01:12:20.000And she's like, you're not allowed to use that footage.
01:12:23.000I feel the reason she did that was because she had real opinions.
01:12:26.000Real opinions that a lot of people have.
01:12:28.000Like, yo, if you stuff your wallet, if you go to an ATM and pull out a thousand bucks and then walk in a dark alley whistling about how you got money and you get robbed, people are going to be like, why were you doing that?
01:12:37.000It's a bummer you got robbed, the burglars, the robbers are the criminals, but that was kind of dumb.
01:12:45.000But the modern left is like, don't blame the victim when it happens.
01:12:48.000Well, this woman genuinely felt there is some responsibility to be safe and to understand what you're getting yourself into.
01:12:54.000But when she realized it went against the mob and the cult, then she was like, delete it, don't use it.
01:12:59.000I blurred her face because I don't think she matters as a public figure.
01:13:03.000I put the video up, I blurred her face because I thought what the person was saying and the ideology of the person was more important, and I don't want to cause any conflict for the individual.
01:13:12.000But people needed to hear all of that, including her attempts to recant and say, no, no, no, I don't like that.
01:13:20.000They're scared of their own political ideology.
01:13:23.000This concept, Owen, that you said of the hive mind is also a very important one that I think we should expand on so people understand what's going on because I kind of see this hive mind being controlled by the algorithms, by big tech monopolies, by intelligence agencies and a lot of powerful people that are able to influence what we see online and therefore change our perceptions of what the world is and what is acceptable and not acceptable.
01:13:43.000How would you define the hive mind and how do you think it plays into all of this?
01:13:46.000Okay, so, well, I want to lead into that by saying that when I see this clip up here, part of me, like, part of it I think is beautiful.
01:13:53.000These are people that are trying to make the world better.
01:13:57.000There's a million things they could be doing, and they're there believing they're making the world better, and I think there is aspects of what they're doing that makes the world better.
01:14:04.000I'm sure if we were to meet any of these individuals or brought them here, we'd want to be their friend.
01:14:09.000We'd probably have a lot of love for them, right?
01:14:11.000They're trying to do something better.
01:14:12.000I think what turns people off that are critical thinkers Is that there's a sort of an energy to it of, I'm not thinking.
01:14:23.000So there's something, there's a great book that you can read that would probably offer a lot of clarification to anybody learning about this called The Winter Effect.
01:14:29.000And this idea of, oh, you can also look up Robert Sapolsky.
01:14:32.000He talks about, you know, serotonin and immune system and dopamine in baboons based on hierarchy.
01:14:38.000And so what happens in a baboon tribe, Robert Sapolsky, he studied this, he's an incredible scientist, and in the book The Winner Effect he talks about it too, is that when you feel like you're winning, your dopamine goes up, your serotonin goes up.
01:14:49.000According to Robert Sapolsky, again, I'm not a scientist, but how I had understood him, he said even your immune system goes up.
01:14:55.000And so, and they show this whole documentary about it.
01:14:59.000So, maybe you've had a moment in your life where you're around, you know, friends, and you're at a party where everybody likes you, and you feel safe, and you feel well-received.
01:15:06.000Maybe you got a new shirt on, you feel good, and your whole body feels good, and your mind's working a little better, and you can talk and talk.
01:15:11.000It's a beautiful feeling to have, right?
01:15:13.000Well, for most of us, the way that we earn that in a more individualistic society is we try to add more value to society to do better and to raise in the hierarchy by offering more and doing better, right?
01:15:24.000But if somebody feels alienated from that reality and that they can't make it, they've lost their buy-in that they can make it in that reality, then you can begin to see a different pocket.
01:15:34.000Now, particularly with the internet, which the internet is amazing both for critical thinking, if you can get off platform and look at other sources, but it's also very, very good for collectivism, right?
01:15:43.000It's the perfect tool for collectivism.
01:15:45.000And so what starts to happen is that if you get this collective group that says you can gain status by having more grievance, you can gain status by feeling more victimized, you can gain status by repeating back the mantras of the group, they're getting dopamine from that.
01:16:02.000And more likes and more engagement and better play in the algorithm if you do play along these certain rules, which is also critically important because that dopamine hit is linked exactly to how many reactions they get and what type of reactions they get.
01:16:16.000It's also funny to think that, you know, if you're driving down the street in LA and you're like, put on your mask, you know, you do that, they're getting a hit of dopamine from that.
01:16:38.000They say like, there's never like a half empty bag of that.
01:16:40.000Like they'll keep pumping it till the bag is gone.
01:16:43.000And so, if you're somebody who's never had dopamine, you've never had that winter effect, maybe you feel like your brain is shut down, and then all of a sudden they tell you, you could be a hero by screaming out your car, and by repeating back the mantras, and by saying all the bad things that happen, and you're like, I've never felt this way!
01:17:10.000Belittle them this this woman on the plane who spit in the old guy's mouth because he wasn't wearing a mask dude was
01:17:15.000eating He was eating and drinking. She put on your mask and she
01:17:17.000took her mask down Everybody laughing at that lady and making fun of her. That's
01:17:22.000look There's a limit but the news about her. I'm sure will
01:17:27.000discourage people from being that Karen as they've described her
01:17:31.000Okay, so having a disincentive is powerful, but again, like, what I have found with people is that if you really give them... Disincentive, super powerful.
01:17:38.000But if you give people a chance, and you get to know them, and you learn their story, you'll no longer see them as, like, you know, a Karen.
01:17:45.000You'll see them as a human being who's maybe suffering, okay?
01:17:48.000And so, my thing is, like, due to the culture war, And Tim, you were one of the first people who put it in my mind that, like, we could be heading towards a civil war.
01:17:59.000I think, at this point, we've got to start looking back to people like Stephen Covey, who says things like, seek first to understand, then to be understood.
01:18:07.000So the story that he tells is that he's on a subway.
01:18:10.000Yeah, and he says, there's these kids that are screaming on the subway.
01:18:13.000And he's like, look, could you tell your kids to quiet down?
01:18:16.000And she looks at him and says, you know, their dad died a month ago.
01:18:20.000And, uh, this was the first time I've seen them happy.
01:18:22.000So I agree with you that they should have been quieter, but I just didn't want to stop them.
01:18:26.000And the thing is, is that I grew up actually, um, kind of like what you call having Asperger's, lightly autistic.
01:18:31.000And I grew up probably as the kind of person, to be honest, if it wasn't for the intervention of self-development, I would have been sitting there in that group, like, I promise.
01:18:39.000And I would have been getting dopamine, like, yeah!
01:18:41.000I will use my white voice to aid my black allies.
01:18:47.000I want to help all people in general anyway, but the point is, the issue there is not that they want to help.
01:18:53.000It's that you can feel intuitively, just as a general vibe, you can feel that they're in a hive mind.
01:19:00.000It would feel different if you could see that people were saying it really because they believe it, not just trying to get a dopamine hit.
01:19:06.000The people could be saying the exact same thing.
01:19:08.000But if it was from their own critical judgment, it would feel different.
01:19:11.000We need to make a film, maybe a little short film, and I always say stuff like this like as if we're gonna do it, but you know, where it's people choosing to become zombies.
01:19:19.000You know, in most zombie movies, they're like, oh no, I'm becoming, I don't wanna be a zombie, run!
01:19:23.000It's gotta be a lot of people being like, why are you going out there on purpose?
01:19:31.000No, no, it's like this, there's a horde of zombies in the street, just like mauling and eating people, and then someone's like, whoa, what's going on out there?
01:19:38.000And there's smart people being like, dude, those are zombies, they're killing and eating people.
01:19:41.000There's a bunch of people, they're like, cheering and stuff, I wanna be a part of that!
01:19:54.000Actually, what's really interesting is about the movie Don't Look Up, is that whenever we get these films about like, you know, like Deep Impact or Armageddon, or what was the one where they go into the core, the core, that's what it's called.
01:20:05.000It's always like, or 2012, or the day after tomorrow, they're like, I've got a serious, you know, problem, the Earth is in trouble, and then all the military leaders are like, what can we do about this?
01:20:14.000And they're like, we must bring together a mission!
01:20:17.000And then in Don't Look Up, they're like, we have a serious problem.
01:20:19.000And then the president's just like, and this is, you know, spoilers.
01:20:37.000We are watching right now people in a cult, holding their hands up, chanting their mantras, and they think They think they would be the people rejecting Hitler?
01:20:48.000They think they'd be the people resisting slavery?
01:20:50.000Yo, you are marching in lockstep without thinking for two seconds.
01:20:54.000You would be right along with all of the despots and all of the mindless hordes that have committed all the atrocities throughout history.
01:21:00.000But Tim, Tim, it's easier just to follow orders, you know?
01:21:17.000What can we do to help alleviate, from your perspective, from how you break people out of the trance, what lessons could we learn from you in the digital kind of world?
01:21:27.000Okay, so, well, I'm gonna talk about that, but I also wanna talk about why I think systemically this has become such a problem, okay?
01:21:32.000So when you have collectivism, there's an incentive to look out for the collective.
01:21:35.000Now, in individualism, Imagine that right now you say, okay, so the people that are likely to wind up in a cult are people who maybe don't know how to manage their health, perhaps don't know how to manage their money, perhaps get offended very easily, perhaps struggle with critical thinking, perhaps struggle with dopamine.
01:21:53.000So you want to have a reality where people are all coming up.
01:21:55.000So the way that I deal with this is that I try to teach people how to have their come up.
01:22:00.000And to be honest, a big part of what I do is like, I kind of give people a hard time about areas that they're struggling, and then I try to help them to elevate past that and help them to find a new safe zone where they're doing better, okay?
01:22:12.000Now, what I've even seen is that if there's a video that I put out where I'm really breaking somebody down and giving them critical feedback, people will actually pull this up and be like, why are you saying that to them?
01:22:22.000I'm like, Do you want to see the results six months later when they're financially successful, have a better social, have an incredible significant other, they're completely happy?
01:22:29.000Like, do you want to look at that, or do you just want to look at me actually trying to give somebody a bit of tough love?
01:22:33.000And things that would have been, like, what I'm doing would have been a joke by 50 year, you know, standards 50 years ago.
01:22:40.000So, the challenge that I see in individualism is that we all compete against each other, right?
01:22:44.000We're not trying to have communism, we're trying to have competition.
01:22:47.000So, me and you are not in competition, but let's just say that we were, and then I said, Because I'm worried that you might not step up, Luke, I'm going to teach you how to compete with me better.
01:22:56.000That's the inherent flaw in the individualistic system.
01:23:00.000So in my mind, if people don't want to lose freedom, what I think, and this is just me tabling, it doesn't mean I'm right, just an opinion I have, I think what's going to have to happen is that if people don't want to live in communism, they're going to, you know, the different business owners and people that are accountable are going to say, you know what?
01:23:14.000We tried giving all our tax money, or not all, that's an exaggeration, but you know, a lot feels that way.
01:23:20.000But you know, we gave our tax money for public education.
01:23:33.000Maybe what has to happen is every business owner...
01:23:36.000And again, I wouldn't like force it or anything, but maybe step up and give another couple percent of their money and say, we're going to make an organization that teaches people for free how not to be susceptible to something like this.
01:23:48.000Because as long as people are walking around suffering and scared, there will continue. You've seen the Yuri Bezmenov content.
01:23:56.000It's like they will be an easy mark for people who want to control them. And then what you get into
01:24:01.000is this Dom sub relationship between the elites and the masses where the elites come in and say,
01:24:05.000hey, you know, I'll be like big Bubba in the jail and you just let me handle everything. And they're
01:24:11.000like, yes, just make us safe. Just put us in the metaverse, put us on universal basic income,
01:24:16.000tell us to stay at home, give us unemployment. They want to be in prison. That's the
01:24:39.000But now that they're talking about lockdowns, now that they're saying we want universal healthcare, we want guaranteed income, For the basic necessities.
01:24:47.000A place to live, guaranteed housing, no guns, and to lock you down for your safety?
01:24:52.000I'm like, yo, you guys are just literally wanting to go to jail, aren't you?
01:24:56.000I just heard from a friend today that lives in New York, and they said, I really want another lockdown to happen.
01:25:43.000So this is where, if you were to bring that person on here and talk to them and have a conversation, and again, seek first to understand, then to be understood, and creating conversations where people come together, because the thing is, is while we're sitting here— They won't do it.
01:27:27.000Where I think it was President Xi, he said to Joe Biden, we're going to own you in 15 years.
01:27:33.000And they're not sitting there having as much tribal argument, although I'm sure there's some.
01:27:38.000But if we're sitting here arguing with each other and we care about freedom as a way of life, what's going to happen if we just sit here arguing and arguing with each other?
01:27:44.000We've got to get back on the same page and say, rather than wasting our time on this, how do we all win together?
01:28:01.000Look, I understand the Maxwell case, the Epstein case, might unify American populists, but when you have people who we've invited on the show, who have been on the show, and I don't want to rehash, call people's names, but the people who watch the show know what I'm talking about, and I say, I agree with you, I think these things are also problems, and instead of saying, I'm glad we agree, let's work to solve it, they say, you're an idiot, you're a liar, and they laugh in my face.
01:28:26.000Yeah, so I don't know how you actually solve a problem when you have an eclectic group of people from moderate to conservative who are all like, we're going to work together.
01:28:34.000And then you get these left personalities who are like, you're in the cult or you're getting out of my face.
01:28:40.000My theory behind why people that are in collectivism tend to do this is that it's the idea that if we all dim our light a little bit, Then everybody can kind of win, but at a lower level.
01:28:50.000Well then if anybody starts doing better socially or financially or whatever, it's ruining the pie.
01:28:53.000So that system can only work if everyone dims their light together.
01:29:03.000And there's just enough food that if we each take the exact same amount, and if we each row really hard, we'll eventually make it back to shore and we can live.
01:29:10.000Well, if somebody then says, hey, I'm just going to start pigging out on the food and not row, the other seven of us might say, we got to purge you.
01:29:20.000But in a more, in a communist system, that's just kind of like the way that I interpret it.
01:29:24.000Perhaps I'm wrong on this, but the way that I interpret it is that people are saying, no, you can't rise too high because everybody needs to be at this level.
01:29:33.000And it's funny because in communism, we tend to think of that as, um it's not good for uh business owners right but what they don't realize no it's not good for middle class and it's not good for kind of upper class but the elites do amazing in communism is my understanding of it and then the people at the lowest level maybe can work perhaps a bit less although ironically those same millennials that watch tiktok that want communism will be put in a sewing factory for 18 hours a day but they think they're gonna get to watch tiktok
01:29:57.000Maybe some future version, but you just get, it's one of those things where it seems like purging just seems to be a common theme in a lot of communism or, you know, people in that kind of mindset because for the whole like, yes, yes, that kind of thing to work, you need everybody to be on the same page.
01:30:41.000He's just like, why do I feel so angry?
01:30:43.000I think with Jones, He's so unstifled and unapologetic.
01:30:48.000My theory is they're not even listening to what he's saying.
01:30:50.000It just makes them angry that he's not filtering.
01:30:52.000Just the mere act that he's not walking on eggshells and expressing himself without a filter is just enraging because they have the filter and they're like, he doesn't have the filter!
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01:31:26.000Now, I need to address a bit of the controversy.
01:31:46.000She was a great guest, and she was very authentic.
01:31:49.000But there were a lot of Super Chats that were concerned about the, um, perhaps the amount of alcohol she had imbibed, and I think Amanda's great.
01:31:59.000I thought she was, I thought it was a fun show.
01:32:25.000Well, there were a few people that suggested that I overpoured her drinks because I'm the bartender on the premises and I've been in the blog.
01:33:23.000And you know, with the way CNN's been hiring lately, there's room to believe that.
01:33:28.000article was so good that when I did my normal news bit, like I did a segment on my TimCast news channel, and I was like, a second producer has been arrested, I actually had to include a satirical article because the joke about Maxwell working at CN was just, it was a standing ovation.
01:34:00.000Yeah, I have a number of friends who are sick, who are trying to get them, that are saying that they just can't.
01:34:06.000Especially, I have a friend in New York, I have another friend in New Jersey, and they're having doctors tell them, yeah, this is all because of the governor's fault, the president's fault.
01:34:14.000And, you know, it's absolutely crazy what's happening here.
01:34:18.000To have something that has helped us personally be denied to people or not there, it's just almost every step of the way here, we have to be questioning what the government is doing here because their results of their actions are horrible.
01:34:31.000It gives a lot of credence to some of the most cynical opinions about what's happening.
01:34:35.000Like, these really, really cynical opinions, when you see things like that happening, you're like, Is that true?
01:34:40.000And it's sad that it's got to that point.
01:34:42.000Well you saw the Attorney General in Florida just came out and said that they're actively... because he said that he's effectively treated 100,000 people in Florida with monoclonal antibodies and he said the Biden administration is actively preventing us from giving it to people that need it.
01:34:56.000I've heard from some doctors that they're just across the board they're being pulled out and the claim, I was actually told this by a doctor, is that it doesn't work.
01:37:34.000At this point, I think it's fair to argue that a lot of the stuff the government is doing that is hurting people and screwing people over is intentional.
01:37:40.000I mean, how else can you describe it, especially with how things have gone?
01:37:43.000I just want to point out, in my research for one of my segments I was doing the other day about the difference between men and women in politics, women began to disapprove of the Democratic Party right around the fall of Kabul.
01:37:55.000And I was just like, is that a strong issue for women in the United States?
01:38:01.000with holding Kabul in a proper withdrawal and not a, I guess so.
01:39:53.000I recommend you watch the White House YouTube videos of Biden addressing COVID, where they have what he's supposed to say, but it's not what he's actually saying.
01:40:28.000John Bell says, was Luke speaking literally about the Epstein crew killing children when he said sacrificing them?
01:40:35.000Well, you know, the term sacrifice could be interpreted in many different ways, but there's a reason why Epstein was flying a 727, the CIA airplane that allows people to throw people out of it mid-flight.
01:40:45.000There's a lot of accusations that a lot of children did go missing.
01:40:49.000As far as smoking gun evidence, there's not a lot of that, but there are a lot of circumstances.
01:40:54.000So when we're talking about sacrificing, when you commit those horrible actions against children, you're sacrificing their innocence, you're sacrificing their childhood.
01:41:02.000But I also do believe that there was a lot of children involved here.
01:42:29.000Muddy says, so many people in the world think that all the Jeffrey Epstein stuff is a wacky conspiracy theory.
01:42:34.000That is the goal here, to get the info out there and show those idiots that it's very real.
01:42:39.000But you've got to approach it very matter-of-factly.
01:42:42.000And you can, I love doing things like this in passing, just asserting things as true that are true, but you don't try to convince someone of.
01:42:49.000So instead of saying, Did you know that Epstein did this?
01:42:56.000You say something like, you're having a political conversation, but like, look, well, I mean, like with the Epstein stuff, which was proven true, when you have somebody at that level of power, you just say it in passing and let it just be part of the conversation, a normal part of the conversation.
01:43:08.000Don't even let it be something that they're going to argue with you about.
01:43:10.000You know, just like at the Bohemian Grove when they do mock child sacrifices to Moloch, you know, this is a time of the year that a lot of people appreciate and usually use for summer excursions and nature walks.
01:43:23.000I often like to challenge things when people say stuff that's outrageous as that, but I would like to, I would like to throw back to when Luke mentioned Bill Gates having birth control microchips.
01:43:32.000And I was like, get out of here, Luke!
01:43:34.000And then I Google it and Bloomberg.com's like Bill Gates funding contraceptive microchips, birth control.
01:43:39.000And I was like, Oh look, you didn't make that one up.
01:43:55.000When the median income increases, so do their salaries.
01:43:58.000This would force them to implement policies that help the middle class, Or to help policies that will give them kickbacks after they leave office.
01:44:54.000The other thing is, The right, moderates, post-liberal, whatever faction, needs to get a hold of the news cycle.
01:45:03.000There was this Vox article, it was hilarious, where they were like, Fox News is controlling the narrative because the left only ever responds, and I'm like, well, that's ridiculous.
01:45:11.000The news cycle is almost exclusively set by the mainstream establishment left.
01:45:16.000And don't take my word for it, Axios put out a story about all of the major news cycle stories of the year, they do it every year, and it is not set by conservatives.
01:45:25.000It's debated by conservatives, but too often conservatives, moderates, libertarians are responding to the establishment left instead of setting the tone.
01:45:34.000Imagine if every single person on the right was like, we're going to talk about this today.
01:45:37.000The left would be either excluded from the conversation or forced to engage.
01:45:43.000And a good example of how this could manifest is If at the peak of his presidency, Trump joined Gab or Mines and started posting there, it would have forced the mainstream media to join these platforms and it would have taken power away.
01:45:57.000But Trump, oh, his advisor said, don't do it.
01:46:00.000So that was an opportunity that was lost.
01:46:03.000It's the idea of punching versus counterpunching or being proactive versus reactive.
01:46:08.000All right, Mike Sullivan says, great after show last night.
01:46:32.000You can have all, like, if most of his political ideology results in letting people live their lives, then Well, then we're good, right?
01:46:38.000I agree with that completely, but the fact is, politically, I think that he's leaking supporters.
01:46:44.000Well, not only that, he's talking about non-science issues, saying that only the people in the hospital are dying or the ones that haven't been vaccinated.
01:47:00.000This is according to the Robert Koch Institute.
01:47:03.000We could pull up the report and look at it, but again, a lot of things are being debated here.
01:47:09.000We don't know exactly what's going on, but this is just some of the preliminary information we got.
01:47:12.000There was a Reuters article that said the majority of people with Omicron in New York were fully vaccinated, and that's true, but it was 43 people.
01:47:36.000And you want to know as much as possible, because what'll happen is, you'll come out and say this, and you'll be in a debate with a family member, and then they'll go, 43 people?
01:47:43.000That was a pathetic argument, and it's gonna be, you know, you gotta know.
01:47:46.000You can say, it's a really small sample size, but let's be real, this story exists, and then they can't counter it.
01:47:51.000They're like, well, okay, you addressed it.
01:47:54.000Jimmy Freckle says the people that love Trump and the people that hate Trump are almost exactly the same person.
01:48:00.000Fervent supporters that are just on further spectrums away from each other and they're kind of radicalized instead of seeing him as good and bad.
01:48:08.000Again, Donald Trump, it's a person I criticize because he was in a position of power, but again, I didn't go crazy like all the other people that were acting like total lunatics going after him for eating two scoops of ice cream.
01:48:22.000It was ridiculous what was happening out there.
01:48:24.000Everyone in power deserves to be criticized, not just worshipped or adored or just hysterically cried after.
01:48:57.000I watched Zodiac, and I'm watching this, and the movie's so thrilling.
01:49:02.000And then I looked up the actual story of Zodiac, and I was like, this is boring.
01:49:07.000The Zodiac killer may have been responsible for, like, several dozen murders, but there's only, I think, like, five confirmed ones, and it was over the course of, like, one year.
01:49:16.000And then they made a movie about it, it became a big deal, and I'm like, it is, it's bad, for sure.
01:49:21.000But there's an actual serial killer on Long Island over three decades.
01:49:34.000Shane did some really awesome investigative reporting and he uncovered the fact that it's perhaps not just a serial killer, it could be serial killers that work together on this.
01:50:06.000Shout out for standing on principles and standing for what's right and not bowing down and doing something that was going to hurt you or be bad for you.
01:50:59.000Yeah, when the CDC revised their isolation to five days, main establishment left activists and the media were all of a sudden mocking the CDC, and I'm like, how do you do that?
01:51:08.000How do you go from saying, we support the science, and then when the CDC is like, we've changed our mind, you're lying!
01:51:39.000That was kind of like Candace Owens' defense for him when she ran cover after the interview.
01:51:43.000She has very strong beliefs about this issue and she didn't back him up during the interview and she's kind of making excuses for Trump's words and saying, oh, he's just old and he only watches the corporate media.
01:51:54.000And if that's the case, you're not making a good argument for him to be president of the United States.
01:52:19.000I agree they did rush it, but I was very satisfied that I didn't get a Disney World cookie cutter ending like all the other movies that end the same way like they usually do.
01:52:29.000I didn't want to do something that was expected.
01:52:32.000I wanted something out of the ordinary, something weird, something different, and I appreciated their efforts towards saying, you know what, we're not going to do what everyone else does.
01:52:40.000We might piss a bunch of people off, but we're going to change things up a little bit here.
01:52:44.000And we're gonna make you think about some other issues and explore your imagination here.
01:52:49.000So you have, in this show, the characters are in, you know, the North or whatever with the White Walkers, and they're surrounded, and they're like, oh no!
01:52:57.000And then they, what, do they send a raven or something?
01:53:01.000And the message gets all the way to the south of the continent, and then the Khaleesi sees it, and then flies all the way to the north of the continent within, what, a few hours?
01:53:16.000We're living in Magic World in Fairytale Land.
01:53:19.000It was interesting, and I thought what that series did, especially in the beginning, was awesome.
01:53:23.000You know what always baffles me about movies?
01:53:25.000You could add a line of dialogue to solve a lot of these things, where she could be like, there's no way we'll make it to the North in time.
01:53:31.000I just so happen to have one teleportation scroll available.
01:54:03.000That's why it's W question mark, whatever.
01:54:05.000Oh, in your video about 10 years ago about Batman and crawling up from your lowest point probably saved my life from the heartbreak I was experiencing.
01:54:13.000Wanted to know the work you do really helps someone.
01:55:16.000The idea that we can save mental energy by letting other people do our thinking for us, which can be a good thing in many ways, but also has to be extracted if we don't want to have chaos.
01:55:30.000So when we were at the casino a few weeks ago I was playing a slot machine and they were like, you know Deborah Jones Please meet your family in the eatery or whatever and we hear it over the speaker and I didn't care and then within five minutes we hear Mike.
01:57:09.000So we basically turned on screen grab and then just walked out of the room for the two hours that the show played on YouTube so we could record it, so we could then make clips from it.
01:58:03.000And not only his best, he's doing incredible work highlighting doctors that are being censored, giving them a voice and having an actual scientific debate.
01:58:43.000The other day, for those that didn't see it in the members only segment, Luke mentioned how sometimes there'll be like a pause and then he looks at me and I'm just looking at him.
01:58:52.000But I was saying, well, it's like, if I'm talking too much and it happens all the time, the guest finishes, I'll like look to Luke to see if he wants to add.
01:58:58.000And then Luke's like too wrapped up in the chat or something.
01:59:01.000And then he's like, Oh, I'm being called upon.
01:59:03.000But I always, I always deliver though.
02:00:16.000I mean, he's put his life in danger, and I'm pretty sure you have too.
02:00:20.000Uh, it was, uh, me, it was Cassandra, Cassandra McDonald now, uh, but pre-formerly Fairbanks, and Luke, and we were at a protest in New York, and we were filming, and then afterwards we're leaving, and it's the three of us, and, uh, we all have, like, decent followings, and then all of a sudden Luke sees, uh, was it Donald Rumsfeld?
02:00:35.000And then just like standing there on the street and then there's like, I'm gonna ask him questions.
02:00:39.000And so there's this video now of like me and Cassandra standing next to Rumsfeld as Luke asks him questions.
02:01:29.000Walked me in there because he was lost and I was helping him get around as I'm helping Paul Volcker get around I'm having a conversation about him going to Bilderberg right and there's these Security guards and they have a VIP section where all the speakers are going and as I'm talking to him about attending Bilderberg I just walk right into it right with him talking to him security didn't even stop us and there's Ben Bernanke I'm like, sorry Paul.
02:01:51.000I'm gonna have to stop here for a second.
02:01:53.000I'll be right back went up to Frickin Ben Bernanke, and I was like, how does it feel pulling off the largest transfer of wealth robbing the people of this world for trillions of dollars with your secret banker bailouts?
02:02:04.000He literally grabbed the microphone tried to rip it away from me so he could steal it So no one would hear the questions.
02:03:13.000We went to, we went to the liquor store, it's probably up on the vlog or whatever, because we're like, we're gonna get libations for the event, and we asked if they had Trump Champagne, the guy's like, it's very hard to get Champagne in general right now, so we got some.
02:03:24.000And we're gonna enjoy ourselves, so we won't be around tomorrow, but to everybody who watches the show, everybody who's a member, we really do appreciate your support.
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02:04:59.000I always love it when we get a little more cultural because I appreciate the philosophy and asking some of the underlying questions about what's actually going on.
02:05:05.000Anyway, I hope you guys all have a great New Year's Eve.
02:05:08.000I'm going to go see some Christmas lights, I hope, and you guys can follow me on Twitter at sarahpatchlids.
02:05:14.000Thanks so much for hanging out and being here all year, my friends.
02:05:18.000The midterm cycle is starting to ramp up.
02:05:21.000So you need to understand that the censorship, the smears, the trolling, it is going to get intense!
02:05:27.000Anybody who is challenging the establishment will be run across the coals, they'll be going after you, they'll be going after us, they will try to shut down anybody who is telling you, you know, vote in the primaries, vote local.
02:05:39.000So we gotta be ready for the censorship.