Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 09, 2022


Timcast IRL - FBI RAIDS 35 Trump Allies, Bannon Reveals, Lawyer Confirms w-Maj Toure & Dave Smith


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 2 minutes

Words per Minute

204.74908

Word Count

25,092

Sentence Count

1,741

Misogynist Sentences

25

Hate Speech Sentences

48


Summary

The FBI raids 35 Trump allies, AOC says interracial marriage isn t for her, and a woman is beheaded in front of a bunch of people in a public place. Also, a new song from rapper Tom McDonald.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 You You
00:00:29.000 Steve Bannon was talking to Charlie Kirk and he said 35 Trump allies had been raided by the FBI
00:00:36.000 And that's a shocking claim!
00:00:38.000 And then Harmeet Dhillon, a lawyer, well-respected, you know, came out and said, can confirm it happened to people I know as well, and so it seems very much confirmed.
00:00:48.000 I mean, I'll tell you this.
00:00:49.000 Steve Bannon was perp-walked after he turned himself into custody.
00:00:53.000 We didn't see that for the BLM leaders who are effectively accused of the exact same, you know, potential crimes.
00:01:00.000 But they're putting on a show for everybody.
00:01:02.000 And hearing that 35 Trump allies have been raided is, you know, it's getting pretty crazy out there.
00:01:09.000 And we got a bunch of stories, man.
00:01:11.000 Crime is playing a big role in the upcoming election.
00:01:13.000 Democrats in vulnerable districts are starting to realize this.
00:01:16.000 And we got a story out of California I want to talk to because I want to talk about crime.
00:01:19.000 A woman was beheaded in the street.
00:01:21.000 In front of a bunch of people.
00:01:23.000 And I don't want to just play into, like, anecdotes, because I know sometimes crime happens, but this is part of a larger trend of a massive uptick in crime that we need to talk about, especially when it comes to policing policies and how that stuff plays out, self-defense, and how there's this move by these woke politicians to decriminalize and allow violent offenders out while basically arresting small business owners.
00:01:43.000 So we'll talk about all that stuff, plus a AOC.
00:01:46.000 She's getting criticized because she said she didn't know if interracial marriage was right for her.
00:01:50.000 It's very interesting to hear a progressive person, because the progressives are the ones who are saying that if you had a racial dating preference, you were racist.
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00:03:22.000 And I'm gonna give a shout out right now to Tom McDonald.
00:03:25.000 Tom McDonald's got a new song out and I'm gonna be promoting this all next week because I genuinely mean it when we gotta push back in the culture war and we've gotta win in terms of producing culture.
00:03:37.000 Tom's got a new song out today called Riot.
00:03:40.000 This is when Billboard reporting starts.
00:03:42.000 It ends next Thursday.
00:03:43.000 Everybody needs to check out the song.
00:03:45.000 We put the link in the description below.
00:03:46.000 You can buy it.
00:03:47.000 We put the Amazon link.
00:03:48.000 It's easier.
00:03:49.000 But if you go to his song, he's number four on trending.
00:03:52.000 It's not an overtly political song.
00:03:53.000 It's just good stuff by somebody who's got a good message behind the work that he does.
00:03:57.000 I'm a big fan of Tom.
00:03:58.000 I want to see him hit Billboard number one on the Hot 100.
00:04:00.000 Maybe we can't pull it off, but we need to organize.
00:04:03.000 And so what I'm saying is when you have somebody like Tom who's successful, got a big following, and is getting Basically blocked whenever he has a successful song from charts and from the media.
00:04:13.000 If we organize, we can make it undeniable.
00:04:16.000 So everybody, buy his song.
00:04:18.000 Let's get him a number one on iTunes.
00:04:20.000 Let's get him a number one on Billboard.
00:04:21.000 I'll tell you this right now.
00:04:23.000 I am so, I am gonna, if Tom McDonald hits number one, which of the stakes be?
00:04:31.000 You'll yank the beanie off, man.
00:04:32.000 Number one on Billboard?
00:04:34.000 Number one on Billboard, I'll wear a suit.
00:04:39.000 Somebody chatted that.
00:04:40.000 You're gonna look good.
00:04:41.000 They said, so if Tom McDonald hits number one on Billboard Hot 100, number one is really tough to get.
00:04:49.000 So I'm kind of like, you know, I'm kind of... A suit and a tie?
00:04:53.000 A suit and a tie.
00:04:54.000 All right.
00:04:55.000 So if everybody who listens to the show buys Tom McDonald's Riot either on iTunes or Amazon, I think you would need like a hundred K sales.
00:05:03.000 Not only does that give Tom more money to do his work, but it would force the media to acknowledge counterculture and anti-establishment.
00:05:11.000 And then I'll put a suit on.
00:05:12.000 That would be a huge win.
00:05:13.000 I feel like you got to up the stakes.
00:05:15.000 A suit, a dress.
00:05:16.000 Tim will wear a dress.
00:05:18.000 If you make this number one, come on, let's get these people working.
00:05:21.000 A scantily clad dress.
00:05:24.000 We all wear suits.
00:05:25.000 I don't have a suit, but I will get you one.
00:05:27.000 I'll definitely wear one.
00:05:28.000 So what about you, Lydia?
00:05:31.000 And we'll get Luke a suit, too.
00:05:32.000 You gotta send, like, a camera crew to the fitting.
00:05:34.000 I wanna see Ian getting fitted for a suit.
00:05:37.000 Yeah, I wanna see the whole thing.
00:05:38.000 We'll all wear suits.
00:05:40.000 And we'll get really nice tailored suits.
00:05:43.000 That'd be a cool, like, social psychology experiment to see how much it changes the show.
00:05:47.000 Like, if you guys are just more, like, formal.
00:05:49.000 We're just angrier.
00:05:51.000 Gets you into character, for sure, being in a costume.
00:05:54.000 So anyway, look, I've been talking about, we released a song, the media told us to F off, said they wouldn't cover the fact that we hit number two on digital sales because they don't like me.
00:06:03.000 And so my whole thing is, let's force them to acknowledge the counterculture.
00:06:08.000 Give them no opportunity.
00:06:10.000 It's 99 cents.
00:06:11.000 It supports Tom.
00:06:12.000 We don't get any of that money.
00:06:13.000 It goes to him so he can keep doing the work he does.
00:06:14.000 I'm a big fan of his.
00:06:16.000 Seeing him hit the top of the charts And then forcing the media to write about a guy who wrote a song called Fake Woke and the system and rags on the cult.
00:06:25.000 I would just, oh man, it would be schadenfreude.
00:06:28.000 Knowing they would just be so angry and having a rant like, Tom McDonald's number one.
00:06:32.000 I'd love to see it!
00:06:33.000 And I'll wear a suit.
00:06:34.000 Well, I will.
00:06:34.000 So, shout out Tom right now.
00:06:36.000 He's currently number three on iTunes.
00:06:38.000 So I'm really excited for this.
00:06:41.000 And I'm also pointing this out, too, because his latest song isn't overtly political.
00:06:44.000 He does rag on mainstream music and the machine, but it's not overtly political, and that's the point.
00:06:49.000 We need to produce culture that inspires young people and invades these spaces and forces them to acknowledge it.
00:06:57.000 Check out his song, buy it, make it happen, get number one, we put suits on.
00:07:01.000 Also don't forget you can become a member at TimCast.com, support our work directly if you'd like to.
00:07:05.000 Check out the Cast Castle vlog, the latest episode with Ian as the main star running for union president.
00:07:11.000 And then at this point now, spoilers I think are okay, let's just say Ian's running for union president and when they're counting the votes to see who won, the early ballots came in at 3 a.m.
00:07:23.000 and you know how it goes, so you guys definitely want to check that one out.
00:07:26.000 Joining us, because you've already heard them speak already, we've got some awesome guests.
00:07:30.000 We've got Maj Ture.
00:07:31.000 Sup?
00:07:32.000 Who are you, dude?
00:07:33.000 Just a regular dude, man.
00:07:35.000 North Philadelphian.
00:07:36.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:07:37.000 Philadelphian.
00:07:38.000 Founder of Black Guns Matter, founder of the Solutionary Lifestyle.
00:07:41.000 You know, reformed scumbag.
00:07:44.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:07:44.000 Right on.
00:07:44.000 Right on.
00:07:46.000 Alright, we've got Dave Smith.
00:07:47.000 What's going on?
00:07:48.000 Very good to be back.
00:07:49.000 It's been a little while, and it's great to see all of you guys again.
00:07:52.000 And you guys know me.
00:07:54.000 Comedian, podcaster, takeover-er of libertarian parties.
00:07:58.000 And it's just, you know, just a coincidence that you're both here at the same time.
00:08:02.000 Just happened to be in the area, you know, we had you both on at the same time for no reason.
00:08:05.000 Coincidentally.
00:08:05.000 Randomly.
00:08:06.000 Before the show we talked about what everybody ate for breakfast, but we also talked about universal healthcare, colonialism, did we talk about colonialism?
00:08:12.000 Generational wealth, the Queen, World Economic Forum.
00:08:15.000 This is before 9-11.
00:08:17.000 Before the mics even went out.
00:08:19.000 Tim was like, well, hold on, how many eggs did you eat first?
00:08:22.000 Because he wants to save it for the show, so let's get hot and heavy.
00:08:24.000 Yeah, it was great.
00:08:25.000 Before the show, we kept trying to talk about what we had for breakfast, so we kept going back to, like, Monsanto and stuff.
00:08:29.000 It was not working very well.
00:08:30.000 It's the system.
00:08:31.000 We ate the system for breakfast.
00:08:32.000 Exactly.
00:08:35.000 It's hard to turn it off.
00:08:36.000 Yeah, it is.
00:08:37.000 It's like we're getting ready with the cameras, and then, you know, Dave would be saying something, I'd say, what'd you have for breakfast?
00:08:42.000 And then within like five minutes, Maja's like, Monsanto, man, you know, with these cookies.
00:08:46.000 Like, here we go.
00:08:47.000 Eggs, you thought you were eating eggs, bro.
00:08:49.000 That's right.
00:08:50.000 Alright, well let's jump into this first story.
00:08:52.000 Let's talk about some authoritarianism.
00:08:54.000 From TimCastBreaking, Steve Bannon says at least 35 Trump allies had their homes raided by the FBI on Thursday.
00:09:01.000 He was speaking with Charlie Kirk.
00:09:03.000 Harmeet Dhillon came out and said, can confirm this happened to many Trump allies I know as well.
00:09:08.000 So I'm wondering if it's actually more than 35.
00:09:11.000 The quote here is, there were 35 raids last night, Bannon said, and there's another grand jury coming together on January 6.
00:09:17.000 The Washington Post reported that 35 senior members of MAGA, Republicans, supporters of Donald Trump, that the FBI rolled in on.
00:09:25.000 So I'm wondering, you know, Biden comes out and he says MAGA Republicans are an extreme threat.
00:09:30.000 A lot of us were like, oh, that's their campaign strategy, right?
00:09:33.000 I'm wondering if it's more than that.
00:09:35.000 That they want to prime the American people, say it enough, get enough of their bots and garbage corporate press to agree.
00:09:42.000 That way, when they start arresting people, they'll say, oh, but you guys know how bad it is, right?
00:09:46.000 Well, it's hard to say for sure, right, exactly what that was.
00:09:50.000 And it certainly, you know, could be, okay, this is a campaign video and this is the play, right?
00:09:56.000 The play for the midterm elections, well he can't claim to be a unifier or any of this stuff anymore, he can't really run on any of his policies, so basically what's his only play left is to gin up his own base by saying, hey, the other side is so evil to get out the votes for Democrats.
00:10:12.000 Kind of a desperate attempt.
00:10:14.000 But I gotta say, and this is what I was talking about the other day when that speech was given on my podcast, Part of the Problem, that I was saying, look, this really reminded me of like a George W. Bush 2002 speech.
00:10:28.000 It had everything from like, I mean, the creepy red backdrop, the military members like right behind him.
00:10:35.000 This was like, it seemed like a war drum speech.
00:10:39.000 Like if you remember, you know, 9-11 happened in September 2001, we invade Iraq in 2003,
00:10:44.000 but the whole year of 2002 was this slow, you know, beating the war drums,
00:10:49.000 pushing the war propaganda about what Saddam Hussein is doing.
00:10:52.000 And it did have that feel to it.
00:10:54.000 I think that, look, let's just call it what it is.
00:10:59.000 Donald Trump, for four years, was framed for treason by his own deep state, by his own intelligence apparatus.
00:11:10.000 Now, that is kind of a real thing.
00:11:14.000 That's something pretty interesting, that you have the CIA and the FBI and the NSA working to oust a democratically elected president.
00:11:21.000 With help from the corporate press.
00:11:22.000 Oh yes, with help from the corporate press, from social media, from big tech, from both parties as well.
00:11:31.000 So now what you're really seeing is that it has definitely been deemed unacceptable to the establishment for Donald Trump to be re-elected.
00:11:40.000 I mean, not re-elected, elected again, whatever you want to call it.
00:11:43.000 Think about that, what a devastating blow that would be for their narrative.
00:11:47.000 And I think that after the FBI raid in Mar-a-Lago, They went big.
00:11:52.000 There's no, I don't think they can do that and not follow this up with something big.
00:11:57.000 They can't just raid a former president's house and then say, all right, we didn't find anything.
00:12:02.000 It's nothing.
00:12:03.000 They got to go for it now.
00:12:04.000 So this is, you know, again, if Bannon is telling the truth and this is what happened, this is another major escalation in that step.
00:12:11.000 Bannon's not the kind of guy to hoax like this.
00:12:14.000 And Harmeet Dhillon's a lawyer.
00:12:14.000 Nah.
00:12:16.000 She's not this hyper-partisan.
00:12:18.000 I mean, she's obviously, you know, partisan in a certain sense, but if she's a lawyer coming out saying can confirm this happened, I take it seriously.
00:12:26.000 The thing I think that the general public should actually look when they see this.
00:12:31.000 Okay, cool.
00:12:32.000 You don't like Trump.
00:12:33.000 Whatever thing you fall in that space.
00:12:33.000 You love Trump.
00:12:36.000 I think the thing that the general public should really be thinking about is these are a weaponization of entire intelligence communities to go after presidents and to slow somebody up for their, okay, I'm going to go in again in 04.
00:12:52.000 So if they're doing that to someone and that's their political opposition that has resources, that has access, that has all of these other different things, the general public should be thinking more so about, do you want to vote for a guy come in a few years?
00:12:52.000 Right?
00:13:07.000 Do you want to vote for a party?
00:13:09.000 Do you want to vote for a system or group that has consistently shown you?
00:13:12.000 Because it's not just on the left.
00:13:14.000 They're just the guys in charge, the Democrats now.
00:13:16.000 And they're unhinged with it.
00:13:18.000 Like, that whole Mar-a-Lago thing, Adrian Norman really, he posted on his Twitter page, it's like, here, right here, it's saying, this was sent by Biden.
00:13:30.000 Just to clarify, this one's interesting.
00:13:32.000 Biden and May requested what the documents they thought Trump had were.
00:13:37.000 Then they go and raid Trump's Mar-a-Lago with the feds a few months later.
00:13:42.000 And so it's, did Biden literally say, I want you to raid his house?
00:13:45.000 Or did he go, oh, won't someone please get me these documents?
00:13:49.000 And then wink, wink, nudge, nudge, the feds went and did it.
00:13:51.000 I think it's, again, like we were saying before camera, I'm past the point of believing that this is incompetence.
00:13:56.000 Agreed.
00:13:58.000 It's too strategic.
00:13:59.000 You know, the sun rises, and depending on your location, the sun's right there.
00:14:06.000 At this time, the sun's going to be here.
00:14:08.000 That is an organized phenomenon.
00:14:10.000 It's too many oopses, and because we're looking at Biden as this You know, the old dude that's struggling with dementia.
00:14:20.000 And we kind of like that might be the drunken monkey.
00:14:22.000 Like I'm not above this is a very intricate movie.
00:14:26.000 We made this joke before that Biden bumbles and fumbles off stage.
00:14:30.000 And then as soon as he's behind the curtain, he stands up the evil and he goes, all right, did they buy it?
00:14:34.000 Now let's go blow up some kids.
00:14:35.000 kids in the Middle East.
00:14:36.000 Right.
00:14:37.000 But I also think like whether it, how much of it went up to Joe Biden and how aware he
00:14:42.000 was it's almost irrelevant at a certain point.
00:14:44.000 I mean we know it went to Merrick Garland, right?
00:14:46.000 So it's, he already said in his own press conference that this was his decision.
00:14:50.000 So it went to very high places.
00:14:52.000 I don't know if that's, at that point who really cares whether it was the president
00:14:56.000 or just his attorney general, you know?
00:14:58.000 His teammate.
00:14:59.000 I think what's important, too, to recognize with this is that it's not even, like, really a left-versus-right thing.
00:15:05.000 This is a power-versus-non-power thing.
00:15:08.000 This is an establishment-anti-establishment thing.
00:15:10.000 I mean, think about the way the—someone I disagree with on a ton of things—but think about the way the establishment turned against Bernie Sanders, you know, in 2016.
00:15:20.000 But hold on.
00:15:20.000 rigging the entire election against him in the Democratic primary.
00:15:24.000 Think about the way in 2020 when he was looking very good against Joe Biden, they were on
00:15:28.000 MSNBC and CNN calling his supporters brownshirts and Nazis.
00:15:32.000 What do you think the system would do if Bernie Sanders had been elected president?
00:15:36.000 So to people...
00:15:37.000 But I want to clarify that.
00:15:39.000 They mounted a procedural effort against Bernie Sanders.
00:15:42.000 Like, questions were being given to Hillary Clinton in advance by CNN.
00:15:46.000 In 2020, they had the three moderates drop out and all endorse Joe Biden at the same time.
00:15:52.000 And Elizabeth Warren stay in.
00:15:54.000 They had her stay in, so the one who was splitting votes from him stays in.
00:15:58.000 All the ones who were splitting votes from Joe Biden get out and endorse Biden.
00:16:01.000 So it's this, like, They flex and bend the system so everything always skews in their favor in those ways.
00:16:09.000 And what happened, and they did that with Trump too, but it didn't work.
00:16:13.000 For once it didn't work and that guy got in.
00:16:16.000 And so it's just the thing that should be eye-opening to regular people is that you go, look, If ever you supported a candidate from the left-wing perspective who deviated from the establishment too much, they would crack down on him in the same way.
00:16:30.000 And the thing that the Trump supporters should be questioning about how much loyalty you have to Donald Trump going forward is just like, Donald Trump appointed Ray to the head of the FBI.
00:16:41.000 He is the guy, you know, his mission, his stated mission was to drain the swamp.
00:16:47.000 Well, man, he got drained by that swamp.
00:16:50.000 He hired Bolton, right?
00:16:51.000 Like everybody went.
00:16:53.000 Dude, Bolton, Pompeo, Barr, you know, Wray, all of these guys, his entire team.
00:17:00.000 He had no clue who to trust and who not to trust and he got rolled by all of them.
00:17:03.000 Fauci!
00:17:04.000 He kept Fauci on the job through all of 2020.
00:17:07.000 Is that... I cannot believe that that's incompetence.
00:17:11.000 I do not believe that that's incompetence.
00:17:13.000 And again, my job is to look at the general public and saying, hey, This looks fishy, and if you see it from the left or the right or whatever, if this looks fishy, is this where you want to put your energy locally, state, or federally?
00:17:27.000 Do you want to get behind those types of things again?
00:17:29.000 Because it's walking like a duck, bro.
00:17:31.000 It's been walking like a duck, looking like a duck for however long.
00:17:34.000 But this is what we're seeing right now.
00:17:37.000 35 raids on Trump allies.
00:17:39.000 We're watching a revolution happen.
00:17:41.000 We are watching a political faction with control of law enforcement using it to crush political opposition.
00:17:49.000 Historically, when you see things like this happen, it's typically how you end up with a uniparty system.
00:17:54.000 Now, I think for the most part, there are Democrats and Republicans for a long time have been the uniparty as it was with this fake, you know, this false adversary.
00:18:02.000 Right, right, right.
00:18:03.000 But Donald Trump storms the gates.
00:18:05.000 Trump supporters, Bernie Sanders supporters tried storming the gates too.
00:18:09.000 Bernie was too nice of a guy, I guess.
00:18:10.000 He was too weak.
00:18:12.000 He couldn't get in that ivory tower.
00:18:14.000 Bernie Sanders walks up to the ivory tower with a bunch of these lefties, shake their fist.
00:18:17.000 They say, let us in, let us in.
00:18:19.000 And they spit on him.
00:18:20.000 And then he apologizes.
00:18:22.000 Donald Trump, they came with a battering ram.
00:18:25.000 Then they bring in the big orange bull who just rampages about.
00:18:28.000 They want to regain control of the establishment.
00:18:30.000 This is how they're trying to do it, by purging and arresting all of their opposition.
00:18:35.000 Let me tell you real quick just how scary it gets.
00:18:37.000 They're going after Trump supporters.
00:18:39.000 They're going after Trump people.
00:18:40.000 They're not going after Republicans, because the Republicans are going to be the establishment.
00:18:44.000 But I'll tell you what happened when I was in Egypt, when they had the second revolution.
00:18:49.000 They realized that the political split between the more secular type Egyptians and the Muslim Brotherhood was too great, and there was only one solution.
00:18:58.000 And you know what they did?
00:18:59.000 Do you know what the military decided to do to stop the constant revolutions?
00:19:02.000 They had a revolution, they had a revolution again.
00:19:04.000 They just went and started killing the Muslim Brotherhood.
00:19:06.000 They just went out, started arresting, started firing guns at and just attacking their protests.
00:19:13.000 Now, it's not that bad.
00:19:14.000 They're not going out and just killing Trump supporters, but it's because we're in a different degree of warfare.
00:19:18.000 That's third generational.
00:19:20.000 Now we're in fifth.
00:19:21.000 They're using the power of law enforcement to make sure Trump's people can't assist him and that his ideas and his leadership are gone.
00:19:28.000 Yeah, well, it's interesting when you say we're in a revolution, and you could really think about in the history of the United States of America, like, we have kind of this idea that we've had one regime since 1776, but really there's been many revolutions along the way.
00:19:43.000 I mean, we had a revolution where we overthrew the Articles of Confederation and installed the Constitution.
00:19:48.000 We certainly had a revolution with Abraham Lincoln where we fought a civil war.
00:19:52.000 I think you could argue that FDR kind of was a revolution.
00:19:55.000 My point would be here, the revolution was 2020.
00:19:58.000 The revolution isn't 2022.
00:20:00.000 The revolution was having the lockdown regime, having what bordered on a color-coded revolution with these kind of like very, let's say, sponsored mass rioting and protesting in the streets.
00:20:13.000 I mean, this is right out of the playbook of what we do in other countries.
00:20:16.000 And so this is the follow-up to that.
00:20:18.000 The 529 insurrection.
00:20:21.000 When they went to the White House, ripped down the barricades, injured dozens of federal agents, set fire to a guard post, set fire to a church, and forced the president into a bunker.
00:20:30.000 Yeah.
00:20:31.000 And no one talks about that.
00:20:32.000 Right.
00:20:32.000 It's very interesting.
00:20:34.000 But this is the follow up to that.
00:20:35.000 Like, if this big push was made, you can look at that Time magazine piece about how they stole the election from Donald Trump.
00:20:41.000 If this big push was made to get Trump out and put Joe Biden in, well, this is now the follow up to that.
00:20:47.000 Now, how do you this is usually after a revolution.
00:20:49.000 You have this period where then you have to crack down on the dissidents to make sure that the power that you took is now.
00:20:58.000 It's all part of the revolutionary process.
00:21:00.000 You mentioned the Civil War.
00:21:02.000 A civil war happens when factions fight each other and neither side can just take it.
00:21:07.000 What we're watching now is, I don't know, I don't care if it's Democrats, it is the elite, and they're using, and it mostly is Democrats, and there are some, you know, former Republican neocon types, but they, what we're seeing is still the revolutionary period.
00:21:21.000 So if in November Republicans win, then the revolution is not complete.
00:21:26.000 If in 2024 Trump wins, then the revolution- Then the revolution failed.
00:21:31.000 Right.
00:21:31.000 To some degree.
00:21:32.000 But sitting here watching, I can't believe that we have a story that 35 Trump, senior Trump people were raided by Feds.
00:21:40.000 Like that is such a dramatic escalation.
00:21:41.000 I think they're doing, what's going to come out of this is, this is the Streisand effect.
00:21:45.000 They're doing something, they're thinking about, we got to keep Trump out.
00:21:48.000 They're not thinking about the general public watching going, you guys are shitty.
00:21:53.000 They're doing a lot of the heavy lifting for us.
00:21:56.000 And I don't mean that in a good way, like, oh, great, yeah, raid more, you know, MAGA extremists, so-called, and then the people will wake up.
00:22:03.000 But that's kind of like, in a weird way, what's happening.
00:22:05.000 The general public, how many times are y'all hearing, guys, that may have voted for Biden?
00:22:10.000 And they've fought you tooth and nail in 20 whatever, right?
00:22:13.000 19.
00:22:13.000 Yeah, this is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:22:16.000 Now after a year and a half, two years, they're like, bro, I don't know.
00:22:21.000 They may not be willing to say, yeah, I'm going this way completely, but they're also going like, nah, something's wrong here.
00:22:27.000 I don't even like how this feels.
00:22:28.000 Economically, they're doing something, this massive overcorrection that the general public is, I think for me, I don't think that anybody's just going, yeah, we're going Biden.
00:22:38.000 And I don't think that they're going, we're raiding these people and people aren't seeing.
00:22:42.000 I think it would work if it was more clandestine.
00:22:44.000 I want to jump to this story here.
00:22:46.000 And it's brutal.
00:22:47.000 Man arrested after beheading young mother in the middle of San Carlos Street, law enforcement sources.
00:22:53.000 Now, they may have had a domestic issue.
00:22:56.000 The guy attacks her and then uses a sword to remove her head in view of the public.
00:23:00.000 And there's two things I noticed from this.
00:23:02.000 You know, there was a story, uh, I think it was a few months ago, maybe a year ago, about a woman who was on a subway train when a man raped her.
00:23:08.000 That was in Philly.
00:23:09.000 And everybody watched.
00:23:10.000 And they filmed it and just let it happen.
00:23:12.000 And I thought to myself, like, how does that happen?
00:23:14.000 That people just stand there and watch that?
00:23:15.000 Like, watch someone do that.
00:23:17.000 Same thing here.
00:23:18.000 Now, I get it with this story.
00:23:19.000 Dude has a sword, right?
00:23:21.000 Okay, guy's got a sword.
00:23:23.000 What can you really do?
00:23:24.000 But, yes, of course.
00:23:24.000 Shoot him.
00:23:26.000 No, no, I agree.
00:23:27.000 That was the correct answer, Maj.
00:23:28.000 Not in California.
00:23:30.000 Not in California, where they criminalize self-defense.
00:23:32.000 Is that where that happened?
00:23:32.000 It was in Cali?
00:23:33.000 Yeah, so here's my point, right?
00:23:35.000 We're segwaying off of this, you know, what's happening with this revolution.
00:23:38.000 And you made a really good point before the show, Dave.
00:23:40.000 You said that they're decriminalizing, like they're letting people go with all this violent crime, and then they're criminalizing self-defense.
00:23:46.000 Right.
00:23:46.000 That is an untenable situation for any civilization, and the only result can be collapse.
00:23:51.000 Well, you know, something really interesting about, like, the kind of rise of the progressive prosecutors who, you know, from my perspective, a lot of times as they were running in some places where they need to get elected or as they were, like, campaigning for the job, they made points that I thought were somewhat reasonable.
00:24:07.000 When they were talking about, you know, things like bail reform, where, look, you certainly can make the argument that it's a pretty messed up system.
00:24:16.000 That if you have money, you get out of jail.
00:24:20.000 And if you don't have the money, you have to stay in jail until trial.
00:24:23.000 There's a really reasonable argument to have there.
00:24:26.000 There's certainly a reasonable argument that over the last 40 years in America, we have been way too harsh on crimes like drug possession, even drug distribution, on crimes like gun possession.
00:24:40.000 It's outrageous the amount of people's lives who we've ruined for these non-violent victimless crimes.
00:24:47.000 Yeah.
00:24:47.000 So the progressive prosecutors kind of use that popular energy to rise up.
00:24:52.000 And then they went, OK, but not only are we going to do that, we're also going to go really
00:24:56.000 easy on violent criminals.
00:24:59.000 We're also going to decriminalize not just shoplifting, but strong armed robbery, carjacking
00:25:03.000 and all of this, because we don't want to throw throw away the book for anyone, except
00:25:08.000 when someone's exercising self-defense.
00:25:11.000 Then they become Reaganite drug warrior prosecutors who want to throw the book at you, who want
00:25:17.000 to like throw it you know 30 years in jail for so it creates a demolition
00:25:21.000 Yes, it creates this thing that is obviously just going to destroy civilization.
00:25:27.000 You can't have a society where you legalize property crimes and violent crimes, de facto legalize them, and then punish people for defending themselves.
00:25:36.000 They are punishing the good, the let me live my life happily and leave me alone, and exonerating, allowing, commuting, protecting the bad.
00:25:46.000 Quite literally, it's like letting the demons loose, and it's an inversion of what the And my only point there is that basically that like the conservative prosecutors gave them this lane from 40 years of insane aggressive prosecutions of people for like drug possession charges so then they could run against that and then be like isn't that so horrible and then they give us this insanity.
00:26:11.000 What we need is libertarian prosecutors basically.
00:26:14.000 Is that yes, let's not throw people in jail for drug possession or gun possession, but also if you defend your life or your property, then we should always come down on the side of that person and against the criminal.
00:26:26.000 It should be like this.
00:26:27.000 I'm imagining there's like a DA and there's like a courtroom and some guy mugged some other guy.
00:26:34.000 And so here they both are.
00:26:35.000 One dude's on trial for the crime.
00:26:37.000 One dude's, you know, the victim.
00:26:39.000 And then the judge is just like, Okay, so, you know, we've heard all the evidence.
00:26:43.000 It really does sound like you mugged this guy.
00:26:45.000 Then he looks over at the victim and says, do you have a gun?
00:26:47.000 And he goes, uh, no, I don't.
00:26:48.000 He goes, okay, so restitution will be, we're going to give you a gun.
00:26:52.000 It's cheaper to give you a gun than put this guy in jail.
00:26:54.000 We're going to tell this guy, don't commit crimes because the next time dude's going to be armed and so will everyone else.
00:27:00.000 I'm kidding by the way, but the idea is like, if people were armed, Good law-abiding citizens who are armed out in West Virginia, I've never had a problem with them.
00:27:10.000 I saw a guy walking down the street with a crossbow once, and I'm like, how's it going?
00:27:13.000 Do you support prosecuting violent crime?
00:27:15.000 Oh yeah, of course.
00:27:16.000 What about people that command people to do violence?
00:27:21.000 So I'm sorry, so someone who gives the orders?
00:27:23.000 Will someone reward this priest?
00:27:24.000 Things like that, and then someone goes and does it.
00:27:26.000 No, that one's a different question.
00:27:27.000 Yeah, this is why people who command other people to do violence ought to be prosecuted too.
00:27:31.000 That's why George W. Bush and Barack Obama should all be in a cell somewhere for the wars that they wage.
00:27:36.000 Hey, did you guys know that Obama murdered- And Trump too, and Biden too.
00:27:38.000 Obama literally murdered a kid.
00:27:39.000 Because it's like, I want to pardon all- It's like- What you mean?
00:27:41.000 We put these people- Obama murdered a kid.
00:27:43.000 Oh yeah, several.
00:27:44.000 Yeah, several.
00:27:45.000 But no, I mean like an American citizen.
00:27:48.000 Anwar al-Awlaki's son.
00:27:49.000 Abdurahman.
00:27:50.000 Right, right.
00:27:50.000 But we don't even need to say that.
00:27:52.000 We can just say, did you know that Barack Obama murdered a kid?
00:27:54.000 Yeah.
00:27:54.000 Like murdered an American kid.
00:27:56.000 People are going to be like, what?
00:27:57.000 An American kid?
00:27:58.000 It wasn't murder because it was legal.
00:27:59.000 No, it wasn't.
00:28:00.000 It literally was not legal.
00:28:01.000 The Patriot Act lets him bomb anybody he wants, man.
00:28:03.000 No, not even that.
00:28:04.000 It was a civilian restaurant in a country we weren't at war with.
00:28:07.000 He blew up civilians, an American citizen, and we weren't at war with Yemen.
00:28:11.000 It was the definition of like, it wasn't even a war crime because we're not at war.
00:28:15.000 It was just literally Obama murdering somebody.
00:28:17.000 Yeah, but and by the way, that's when Obama was drone bombing Yemen up to 2009-2010 when we were on the side, we were drone bombing to supposedly kill Al Qaeda.
00:28:28.000 But then he switched and okay, we continued the bombing campaign to this day.
00:28:32.000 on the side of Al Qaeda, because now we're against the Houthis, because we had to kind
00:28:36.000 of win over favor with the Saudis again.
00:28:38.000 So we kept that war going this entire time and switched sides.
00:28:42.000 And we are still to this day currently fighting on the side of Al Qaeda.
00:28:46.000 So mix war crimes with treason with genocide.
00:28:50.000 And that's what you've got in Yemen right now.
00:28:52.000 Donald Trump was like, why do we have troops over there?
00:28:55.000 And Donald Trump was trying to get our troops out.
00:28:57.000 Donald Trump was lied to by... I can't remember who lied to him about Syria.
00:29:02.000 They bragged about it.
00:29:04.000 They bragged about how they forced to keep our troops in.
00:29:07.000 We had the Abraham Accords.
00:29:09.000 We had Trump negotiating with North Korea.
00:29:11.000 We had Trump basically being like, I don't know why we're involved in any of this stuff.
00:29:15.000 This is costing us money for no reason.
00:29:16.000 But no excuses for him, man.
00:29:19.000 No, I get it.
00:29:19.000 No, I get it.
00:29:20.000 He, first of all, he rode up like the, first off, he got tricked into surging in Afghanistan
00:29:25.000 before he finally agreed to end it.
00:29:27.000 And then he agrees to end it on a timeline that will be on the next guy's administration.
00:29:32.000 I guess he assumed he was getting reelected, but he took that risk.
00:29:36.000 Oh, hold on.
00:29:37.000 By the way, he had Colonel Douglas MacGregor come in to the Defense Department in the lame
00:29:40.000 duck session after he lost the election, but before he was out.
00:29:44.000 And he, he rode up the order to remove all troops from Syria and Afghanistan and Trump
00:29:50.000 signed it.
00:29:51.000 And then the next day Trump took it back.
00:29:54.000 Because someone got in the room with him and convinced him not to do it, and he did this over and over and over again.
00:29:59.000 So fine, it is true that they all misled him and lied to him, but like, no excuses for the Commander-in-Chief and President.
00:30:05.000 He had four years in there of being the Commander-in-Chief.
00:30:08.000 The genocide in Yemen continued every single day of his administration.
00:30:12.000 By the way, 1833stopwar.com.
00:30:16.000 Go there.
00:30:16.000 There's a War Powers Resolution coming up.
00:30:18.000 This is the big project of the Libertarian Party right now to try to get you to go call your congressman.
00:30:22.000 There's a bill in the Congress, in the House and the Senate to try to bring an end to this genocide.
00:30:28.000 I gotta push back a little bit just because I think in terms of war, Trump was the best president of my lifetime.
00:30:33.000 Why?
00:30:34.000 Because he was getting our troops out.
00:30:35.000 He didn't start any new ones.
00:30:37.000 Okay, he didn't start any new ones.
00:30:38.000 He definitely...
00:30:41.000 He gave it his best try when he murdered Soleimani and could have gotten us into the worst war in the last 20 years.
00:30:50.000 I didn't say that was good.
00:30:53.000 Who was better?
00:30:54.000 Every other president in my life started several wars.
00:30:57.000 And so, I understand.
00:30:58.000 Like, bro, drone strike, man.
00:31:00.000 Listen, I like that talking point.
00:31:02.000 I like that the talking point is he didn't start a new war rather than it being like he was so great because he was so
00:31:07.000 aggressive, you know, like he was such a war hawk like it would have been with previous Republicans.
00:31:11.000 But I mean, OK, he didn't start any new wars. That is technically true.
00:31:15.000 Again, he flirted around and flirted in Venezuela.
00:31:18.000 But, you know, the number of civilian casualties actually went up in his, you know, he didn't end any of the wars.
00:31:26.000 He continued all of them.
00:31:28.000 Well, he, okay, I give him all the credit in the world.
00:31:31.000 He authored the deal that ultimately ended the war in Afghanistan.
00:31:34.000 And by the way, even though he botched the execution, I give Biden credit too for ending that.
00:31:38.000 Fine.
00:31:39.000 But Donald Trump was the commander in chief for four years on the promise that he was going to end these wars.
00:31:45.000 No excuse making for that.
00:31:46.000 He kept them all going for all four I think the difference in our perspectives is, because I agree with you, but my thing is like, I have to be positive on people who are making progress so that we can continue to encourage the election of people who will follow further and further in that direction of... But then I'll say, if we want to make progress... But he didn't really make progress, is what I'm saying.
00:32:09.000 If more people are being killed... If more... What is that?
00:32:12.000 So that's a... What deal?
00:32:14.000 What piece did he strike with who?
00:32:16.000 So, when you have planes that are traveling over Israel, when you have countries like, what is it, Saudi Arabia, among other Arabic nations that are now allowing inter-country commerce, it's just a step in the right direction.
00:32:27.000 No, there was no war between Saudi Arabia and Israel.
00:32:31.000 There was no war between the UAE and Israel.
00:32:33.000 You couldn't go to the country if you had the passport stamped.
00:32:35.000 So basically what he did was, in these peace deals, is he basically bought off these other Muslim countries to be friends with Israel when they had vowed to not be friends with Israel over their treatment of the Palestinian people.
00:32:51.000 And so we bribed them with US taxpayer dollars to look the other way and let Israel do what they want to do to the Palestinian people in order to not be enemies with them.
00:33:00.000 So if that's a peace deal, fine.
00:33:02.000 But if I'm talking about the actual wars, The war in Yemen, the war in Somalia, the wars in all of these countries.
00:33:11.000 No, he didn't end them.
00:33:12.000 So that's the type of peace deal I'd be looking for.
00:33:14.000 So I agree with you.
00:33:15.000 I want to see progress.
00:33:16.000 But I think the way to get progress is to say, no, that's not good enough.
00:33:20.000 We're actually expecting, when you run on saying we're going to end the wars, that means end the freaking wars.
00:33:27.000 End them all.
00:33:28.000 This is insane.
00:33:30.000 We're draining, we're bankrupting our country to be the empire of the world.
00:33:34.000 And for what?
00:33:34.000 What do we even get out of it?
00:33:36.000 What do we get?
00:33:37.000 Okay, in the last 20 years, in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Somalia, Pakistan, Yemen, like all these campaigns, what have we gotten for it?
00:33:45.000 Petrodollar.
00:33:46.000 Yeah, opium and lithium.
00:33:47.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:33:49.000 It's the petrodollar.
00:33:50.000 Right.
00:33:50.000 It's that we don't have to do anything to buy oil.
00:33:55.000 Literally nothing.
00:33:56.000 The funny thing about that is that it's like, even that, how does that benefit the American people?
00:34:02.000 I mean, it benefits the Federal Reserve, right?
00:34:06.000 Like, they can print all the money they want and there's still something that's kind of backing up its currency.
00:34:10.000 But how is that actually benefiting regular people?
00:34:10.000 It does.
00:34:12.000 Well, I'll tell you.
00:34:13.000 It allows their government to rape them even more.
00:34:16.000 Well, but it does benefit the American people.
00:34:18.000 I'm not a fan of how the system works, but it does.
00:34:21.000 So the GDP of, say, Brazil has to be high so they can, with, what's the Brazilian currency?
00:34:28.000 Man, I can't, someone, what is it?
00:34:29.000 I'll hook it up.
00:34:30.000 I believe it's the Brasilio.
00:34:32.000 The Brasilio, that's exactly what it is.
00:34:34.000 So, what is it?
00:34:35.000 I should know the answer to this.
00:34:37.000 It's the Mexican peso?
00:34:38.000 No, it's not the Mexican peso in Brazil.
00:34:41.000 You sure?
00:34:42.000 Yes, I'm pretty sure.
00:34:43.000 The Brazilian real?
00:34:45.000 Yes, hey, I don't know why I'm Mexican pace. It's a hey I hey I so in order to buy oil
00:34:51.000 They got to trade that for petrodollars. They trade it for the dollar so you can buy on the market with us
00:34:55.000 What we do is US currency is created upon the the transaction of a loan
00:34:59.000 so when you buy a house the bank just Manifests half a million dollars for the house or whatever
00:35:04.000 it is You're buying and that money appears the bank of the bank
00:35:07.000 account of the person who sold the house It was not, nothing was done to make that happen.
00:35:12.000 In Brazil, you've gotta actually sell stuff, you've gotta actually make stuff, you've gotta trade stuff, and you've gotta do it internationally.
00:35:18.000 Your GDP has to be higher, your exports have to be higher than your imports.
00:35:22.000 So that means people have to be making things and selling them overseas, where in the United States, the American people can literally do nothing And the U.S.
00:35:29.000 government can acquire oil that we use for machinery, for production, for food subsidies.
00:35:33.000 It does benefit the American people.
00:35:35.000 No, so all of that's right, but it's like, which of the American people is it benefiting really?
00:35:40.000 And because what I'm seeing throughout this entire process is the entire working class of America being hollowed out.
00:35:47.000 Right?
00:35:48.000 And so, yes, it's benefiting the people.
00:35:50.000 What it allows is, like, it benefits the speculators trading in the Wall Street casino, and it benefits the people who work for weapons companies or the think tanks that are funded by those weapons companies who go and lobby for the next war.
00:36:01.000 But I'm telling you that I think overall it's a net negative for the average American.
00:36:06.000 What it is is the lifeblood of the empire.
00:36:09.000 But the empire is the enemy of the republic.
00:36:11.000 It's the enemy of the people.
00:36:13.000 I agree.
00:36:14.000 I prefer a system where people work, trade, and you have what you make.
00:36:20.000 You use your hands, you use your mind, you make, you create, you live a good life.
00:36:24.000 You share with your neighbors, your neighbors come together, you build something great.
00:36:27.000 And that should be from within our borders, and we can do international trade when other countries agree to trade with us.
00:36:32.000 I don't like the system of the reserve.
00:36:34.000 There's an argument that's made often about if we don't do it, you know, China will fill the power vacuum and There's questions about a unipolar Chinese world and things like that, or I should say Chinese communist world.
00:36:44.000 My thing is, I don't think any of the wars have ever been justified.
00:36:48.000 They've made ridiculous justifications for them.
00:36:50.000 But if you actually look at what the goal of these wars were, if you look at the goal of why they're giving money away, it's simple.
00:36:57.000 Why did Syria happen?
00:36:58.000 Let's just say, I agree with you, Maj, I'm done believing this stuff is an accident.
00:37:04.000 The United States said they, okay, so we go back to the, you're familiar with the Qatar-Turkey pipeline deal, all that stuff.
00:37:11.000 The U.S.
00:37:11.000 wanted to build a pipeline with their allies from Iraq, Syria, Turkey, into Europe, offset Russia's monopoly.
00:37:17.000 Syria said, no, we're allies with Russia.
00:37:19.000 Conveniently, somehow, a civil war erupted in Syria.
00:37:22.000 And then we were just on the side against the dude who blocked our natural gas pipeline.
00:37:26.000 So that would have upset Gazprom.
00:37:28.000 Lo and behold, the conflict in Ukraine.
00:37:31.000 It's all part of the same thing.
00:37:32.000 Russia now is strangling out with energy prices in Europe.
00:37:36.000 The whole purpose of what we've done internationally is effectively a hostage situation so that everyone has to use the dollar to buy oil with.
00:37:44.000 And the reason we give money out when you're like, why are we giving $12 million to gender studies in Pakistan during a pandemic when we're shut down and our economy's collapsing?
00:37:53.000 Because if you give them the money, they will use it.
00:37:55.000 And so long as they use it, confidence remains in the currency which we use so we can buy oil and not have to do work.
00:38:03.000 It is a hostage situation across the board.
00:38:05.000 I'm not a fan of it.
00:38:05.000 I don't think it's good.
00:38:07.000 I don't think any of it's justified.
00:38:08.000 But this is what they don't tell the regular people.
00:38:10.000 But at a certain point, long term, again, empires doing empire shit is one thing.
00:38:18.000 Constitutional republics respecting the citizens and not trying to just go murder people to justify it for that dollar.
00:38:24.000 I think you both have excellent points.
00:38:27.000 You're saying, this is why.
00:38:28.000 We completely agree.
00:38:29.000 Oh yeah, no, no, no.
00:38:30.000 We're basically on the same page.
00:38:32.000 I'm just saying that the entire, what this has led to, the entire consumer economy, rather than kind of like the economy of, because basically it went from gold standard to petro standard.
00:38:42.000 Like that was basic.
00:38:43.000 I mean, there's a few years in between, but it was all, it was early seventies to mid seventies when we went from the petro dollar, when we went from the gold standard to the petro dollar.
00:38:51.000 And what happens then is you enter into this, this age of like wild inflation, And by the way, inflation's been happening all the way throughout, just depending on how you measure it.
00:39:01.000 You know, it's like they use the CPI to measure inflation, but if you really sit back and think about it, what were the price of things in the 70s versus the price of things now?
00:39:10.000 Everything is drastically more expensive.
00:39:12.000 Go talk to like your parents about who, anyone who like bought a home, what they bought a home for $1,000 yeah right inflation has been with us this
00:39:20.000 whole time and it's it's shown in lots of different ways but this economy I
00:39:24.000 think has done much more damage that then it has benefited regular American people
00:39:31.000 what it's done is kind of put out of they've it's put the basic things
00:39:37.000 that most people want out of reach
00:39:40.000 The idea that, like, hey, we could have, let's say, one job in this family and that could support the entire family.
00:39:46.000 Oh, with that one job, we could own a house and send our kids to college and have health insurance and have all of the basic things that most regular people want.
00:39:56.000 Now, with the husband and wife working, it's still completely out of reach.
00:40:01.000 So I don't buy into this narrative that, like, we're benefiting.
00:40:05.000 Empire is more of a cost than it is a benefit.
00:40:08.000 But there's a lot of complicated nuances around the idea.
00:40:11.000 Get out of here, Fly.
00:40:12.000 Are you working for the Empire?
00:40:14.000 So a lot of people say stuff like, you know, 70 years ago, a high school education was enough to support a family of five.
00:40:25.000 And it's like, what did you need to own?
00:40:29.000 You didn't need to own things, right?
00:40:31.000 Today you have to have a computer, you have to have a phone.
00:40:33.000 And it's because, let's say you go work at any job.
00:40:36.000 Let's say you want to be a pizza delivery boy.
00:40:38.000 You better have a cell phone, right?
00:40:39.000 Okay, well phones have gotten a lot cheaper, but you require certain materials now that people didn't require before.
00:40:46.000 It's like you could go to get a job working somewhere and it's like phones were there as part of the company.
00:40:51.000 But the phone isn't really what's putting people, isn't what's making people bankrupt, right?
00:40:56.000 I mean, those kids can afford a phone.
00:40:58.000 I'm saying there's a lot of different factors that play into this.
00:41:01.000 One of them is the expansive requirements.
00:41:04.000 The services we require.
00:41:05.000 You need to pay your internet bill.
00:41:06.000 You need to buy a phone.
00:41:07.000 You need to have a vehicle.
00:41:08.000 All of these things compound.
00:41:10.000 So my parents growing up, they didn't need a TV.
00:41:13.000 They didn't need phones.
00:41:14.000 They didn't need anything.
00:41:15.000 They had empty studio apartments with a mattress on the floor.
00:41:17.000 And it was like not living well, but it was like you didn't have to worry about extensive bills.
00:41:21.000 So regardless of inflation, there's more material expenses that are compounding.
00:41:28.000 But I think there's also like the prices, I mean if you think about it like this, right, where if you go, if a lot of those kids who bought into that and all went to college because they were told this is what we have to do, and these are a lot of the same kids who are begging for debt forgiveness now, which I'm against, but just to say, they go, let's say you go and you're a hundred grand in debt now from college, and then you enter a job market post 2008 financial recession, it was not a good job market, so you're like working at Starbucks.
00:41:55.000 So you're working at Starbucks, and you have $100,000 in debt, and you're living at home, and the average cost of a house around you is like $500,000, and the cost of college is what college is, the cost of healthcare is what healthcare is.
00:42:12.000 That kid's looking there going, what is the plausible path for, say, that young man working at Starbucks to get married and support a family?
00:42:23.000 The cost of just schooling and housing and healthcare and all of the things that the government has bid up to these insane high prices, like that to me is almost like the essential problem with the soul of America, as Joe Biden likes to mention it, is that we have made the path to just having a life where you start a family and raise your kids and live a nice life damn near impossible for regular people.
00:42:49.000 Well, they've solved that problem.
00:42:51.000 Advocate against having a family and nobody will buy it.
00:42:53.000 There you go.
00:42:54.000 Problem solved.
00:42:55.000 Abortion solves this problem.
00:42:56.000 Here's the solution.
00:42:57.000 That's what we're facing now.
00:43:01.000 Here's the solution.
00:43:02.000 She has an abortion and it turns out you're a woman, not a man.
00:43:05.000 So there you go.
00:43:06.000 No more babies.
00:43:07.000 If we had been on the petrodollar from 1975, the standard of living in the United States
00:43:13.000 would have been way less, I would imagine.
00:43:14.000 We wouldn't have had access to a tenth of the wealth that we have now.
00:43:18.000 So I guess in essence, the question is tying into, are you guys saying that we should, because this is kind of going in the direction of, we should want less.
00:43:30.000 Is it going that way?
00:43:31.000 Like, is our definition changing because credit, credit, credit, inflation, inflation, inflation, inflation, greed, greed, greed?
00:43:38.000 So now you want more, but you're chasing more, but now you got more debt, and now it's impossible?
00:43:43.000 Well, see, I think it's fine to always want more, and in many ways we get more, like with technological advances, but to your question, Ian, like, if there is, um, if you say, if we had gone off the gold standard, but hadn't gone on to the petrodollar, well, there's still a lot of other questions.
00:43:58.000 Like, so then what would we have done?
00:44:00.000 I mean, if we had not wasted, let's say, a trillion dollars a year on maintaining the empire, and that trillion dollars had been not extracted from the American economy and just handed over to basically weapons companies and all of that, and that had been left within the American economy, then yes, I think we'd be way richer than we are for maintaining the American economy.
00:44:22.000 But an even stronger argument is, how about this?
00:44:24.000 What if we had not gotten off of the gold standard?
00:44:27.000 And what if we had not created the Department of Education and the Department of Homeland Security?
00:44:31.000 And what if we had not had this drastic expansion of government and we had continued to be a somewhat free society?
00:44:37.000 We would be wealthier right now than we can possibly fathom.
00:44:41.000 I'll put it into video game terms for you.
00:44:43.000 Civilization.
00:44:44.000 You guys ever play Civilization?
00:44:46.000 What's the latest one?
00:44:47.000 Six?
00:44:47.000 Six.
00:44:48.000 I love Civilization.
00:44:49.000 So you build a civil, you start as like a nomadic tribe.
00:44:51.000 You build a city, you develop, you can choose to do technology.
00:44:54.000 There's a bunch of different ways you can win.
00:44:56.000 The way I always play the game, is I build a bunch of cities, have my borders, have minimal military just to defend our borders, but no excursions, develop science, flying cars, and you know, coastal flood walls, and advanced technology.
00:45:14.000 And with advanced technology, anybody who tries to invade me, we stop, And we don't go chase them down.
00:45:20.000 That's how I play the game.
00:45:22.000 See, this is how I imagine America used to be, and could be, you know, and maybe Trump isn't the perfect avatar of bringing this about, but at the very least being like, we'll protect our borders and we'll stop wasting time over there.
00:45:35.000 We tried.
00:45:36.000 It was an obvious, like, if you don't get involved across the world, if you're not part of the community, somebody's going to be like, well, I also have access to the technology and I would like to conquer.
00:45:45.000 Yes, but what I'm saying is, the way I go about playing my civilization is, yes, I will have military capabilities, but I don't need to go and conquer all these other lands because I'm scared they might attack me.
00:45:56.000 I just, if they come at me, then I smack them back, and I focus on making my country great.
00:46:01.000 If you're playing on difficult, and the enemy really wants to destroy you, they'll have like 16 bombers ready, they'll have nukes, they'll have all sorts of weapons that you can't defend against.
00:46:09.000 No, you cannot, no matter how great.
00:46:11.000 Don't you tell me about civilization, because even- You gotta play on god mode, man.
00:46:14.000 Immortal only.
00:46:16.000 Listen, if you want to play a game where the enemy has an unfair advantage in their resource production, that's just a stupid analogy.
00:46:22.000 When I'm talking about playing on normal, and they have the same rules that I have, yes, I build nukes, I build weapons, and I mind my own effing business.
00:46:30.000 We'll stream it live and see what happens.
00:46:33.000 But in the real world, it's like this, right?
00:46:36.000 It's like what Adam said, and he was right on the money, and I forget, I don't have the exact quote, I'll butcher it, but he goes, if we go around searching for monsters to slay, we will become the dictress of the world, and we will lose our own soul.
00:46:50.000 And that's exactly what's happened to the United States of America, that we've become,
00:46:53.000 we've decided, and look, you can watch this. It was such a prophetic warning that even as like,
00:46:58.000 when the Republicans and the evangelical Christians really had so much control of the
00:47:03.000 country and the culture, right, in post-911, they used this to say, we're going to go to Iraq,
00:47:08.000 we're going to go to Afghanistan, we're going to fight this war on terrorism. And what's happened
00:47:11.000 to our own soul since then? It's completely collapsed. And I'll say this to right-wingers
00:47:17.000 who like really care about the culture war stuff, they should care about being anti-war more than
00:47:22.000 anything else. Because when does the like kind of left-wing degenerate culture really take hold?
00:47:28.000 When did you see the social revolution? It was during Vietnam.
00:47:31.000 There is...
00:47:32.000 When did you see the rise of the woke insanity?
00:47:35.000 It was following the war on terrorism with all of these failed wars.
00:47:40.000 Look, even the idea of Hitler rising, that was all a consequence of Woodrow Wilson getting us into World War I. We entered into a war we had no business being in.
00:47:50.000 We entered a world war that would have ended in a stalemate almost certainly.
00:47:54.000 and tipped the balance on one side, enforced the Treaty of Versailles on the Germans, we
00:47:59.000 drew the Russian forces out and the Bolsheviks took over Russia, so now you have the rise
00:48:03.000 of communism and Nazism.
00:48:05.000 It's all Woodrow Wilson's fault for getting us in that way.
00:48:09.000 We are supposed to be a city on a hill.
00:48:11.000 We're supposed to be a free country.
00:48:13.000 And if other countries want to emulate us, then great.
00:48:16.000 But you know what?
00:48:16.000 The idea that we're going to bring freedom all around the world when we can't even protect it here?
00:48:20.000 You're telling me the country that had lockdowns is going to bring freedom to, what, the Muslim world?
00:48:25.000 Give me a break!
00:48:26.000 And this is the important point for you, Ian, too.
00:48:29.000 Your argument would dictate that we gear up for a beaching of China.
00:48:33.000 No, no, no.
00:48:34.000 I mean, I know what you guys are saying.
00:48:36.000 They've got concentration camps right now where they're raping women, they're forcing abortions on them, and they're in concentration camps.
00:48:44.000 They're expanding rapidly around the world.
00:48:47.000 They wanted to build the Nicaraguan Canal, which would have wiped out a natural water aquifer,
00:48:53.000 just because, and it's ridiculous how long it would have been,
00:48:55.000 had to have been, because we have the Panama Canal.
00:48:58.000 They're doing exploration and land purchases.
00:49:00.000 In the United States, in South America and Africa, they have the Belt and Road Initiative.
00:49:05.000 They are doing so much that is expanding their power.
00:49:09.000 If Hitler had exterminated the Jews without an invasion, no one would have stopped him.
00:49:13.000 the concentration camps and the skirmishes on the border.
00:49:16.000 Where are they? India?
00:49:17.000 So if that is your criteria, we should have already invaded them a long time ago.
00:49:21.000 They haven't been invading anybody though. If Hitler had exterminated the Jews without an invasion, no one would
00:49:26.000 have stopped him.
00:49:26.000 I mean, what right do you have to go into a sovereign nation and tell them how to run their show? It's just...
00:49:32.000 So that's the point of saying, we're a city on a hill.
00:49:35.000 Because to your point, that's what we've been doing, clandestine or overt, for decades at this point.
00:49:41.000 And by the way, no one did stop Hitler from genociding the Jews.
00:49:44.000 I mean, I guess the Soviets liberated like the last few A few hundred of them or something like that, but he got away with his genocide and it only happened after the war.
00:49:54.000 You know what I mean?
00:49:54.000 So if anything, the idea that the war prevented the genocide of the Jews, I know a little something about this as a Jew whose family is from Germany.
00:50:04.000 Nope, genocide was prevented, you know what I mean?
00:50:06.000 So really, the truth is that all we can do, and this is unfortunate, but the reality is that Large swaths of the world are authoritarian nightmares.
00:50:19.000 And all that happens when we raise up this military-industrial complex in the name of battling that is we become an authoritarian nightmare as well.
00:50:26.000 Unfortunately, it's like the analogy I like to use is it's like if you were sitting there in your house and you're worrying about your neighbor's marriage while your marriage is falling apart.
00:50:37.000 You know?
00:50:37.000 Like, you're literally, your marriage is falling apart, but you're really concerned about how the guy down the street is treating you.
00:50:43.000 But if you see the guy down the street kicking doors in... Who was married to Abner and Bewitched, that lady?
00:50:48.000 Oh, the actress?
00:50:50.000 Abner!
00:50:50.000 Abner!
00:50:50.000 You know?
00:50:51.000 She's always watching from across the way.
00:50:54.000 Yes, yes.
00:50:54.000 I got that one.
00:50:55.000 Yes.
00:50:56.000 It's true, but if your neighbor down the street's breaking down the doors of other neighbors, then you're like, uh, are we just gonna sit here?
00:51:02.000 Like, at what point do we get involved in...
00:51:05.000 Okay, but then at the same time, man, if you're going to use this analogy, then when do people start checking America?
00:51:11.000 I love that we always just imagine ourselves as the ones who are stopping other people from breaking down the doors.
00:51:17.000 Like, who's broken down more doors?
00:51:20.000 Listen, man, between the war in Iraq, and the war in Afghanistan, and the war in Yemen, and the war in Syria, and the war in Somalia, and the drone campaign in Pakistan, and the war in Yemen, what do you think the total death count is?
00:51:35.000 It's in the millions, dude.
00:51:38.000 Millions.
00:51:39.000 We are the ones.
00:51:41.000 We're the world's terrorists right now.
00:51:43.000 So if anyone should kick down any doors, it should... And by the way, I'm not like a lefty, blame America first.
00:51:47.000 I love America.
00:51:49.000 I love this country.
00:51:50.000 I hate our government.
00:51:51.000 I'm talking about our government right now.
00:51:53.000 I'm not some left-winger like, there's problematic, toxic masculinity or something.
00:51:57.000 I'm telling you, these are the blood-soaked monsters in our government.
00:52:01.000 They are the ones who should be checked.
00:52:02.000 And let's point out the purpose of NATO, which was?
00:52:06.000 Well, supposedly it was to stop the Soviet Union from encroaching into Western Europe.
00:52:10.000 Hey, we did that!
00:52:11.000 And now what's NATO doing?
00:52:12.000 Oh, they're encroaching into Eastern Europe!
00:52:14.000 Same thing, same thing.
00:52:14.000 No, they became that.
00:52:15.000 We promised, when the Soviet Union collapsed, we promised both verbally and in writing that NATO would not move one inch to the east.
00:52:24.000 That was the deal we made the Soviet Union.
00:52:26.000 We said, look, let all your satellites break up, okay, let them have their sovereignty, and we promise you we won't move NATO one inch to the east.
00:52:35.000 And now Finland is getting on board.
00:52:36.000 then has expanded, has included more Eastern European countries.
00:52:41.000 And now Finland is getting on board.
00:52:43.000 That's right.
00:52:44.000 So I think Finland.
00:52:45.000 Including Trump, by the way, who brought two more into NATO.
00:52:48.000 Who did he bring in?
00:52:49.000 On the board?
00:52:50.000 Yeah, who's, you have to look that up, or the Trump.
00:52:53.000 Was it Estonia under Trump?
00:52:55.000 Was it Estonia?
00:52:55.000 No, no, no.
00:52:56.000 I might be wrong about that.
00:52:57.000 I feel like the liberal economic order was spun up to prevent World War III, which it kind of has, except we're in a fifth generational world war right now.
00:53:04.000 This is a techno war.
00:53:06.000 See, I think the excuse was to prevent World War III, but I think the truth is that this is just kind of the natural, this is like, it's the Adams quote, we lost our soul.
00:53:14.000 So once we won the first world war, it was like, all right, well.
00:53:20.000 Do we just go back to being a city on a hill now?
00:53:23.000 I don't know.
00:53:23.000 We're the toughest guys in the world.
00:53:25.000 And then once we did it again and won the second world war, it was like, oh okay, well now we have half of Europe, Stalin has half of Europe, and now it's a competition to who can rule the whole, it's like you got, they get drawn into the game of world domination.
00:53:39.000 Empire's doing empire shit.
00:53:42.000 And the basics of it all is, it's time, it's been time to fucking pull back.
00:53:47.000 The difference is, the part that I think a lot of times we don't see now is, the actual death.
00:53:54.000 The actual fucking murder.
00:53:55.000 The actual babies.
00:53:57.000 The actual people being fucking killed.
00:53:59.000 Cause otherwise, media can spin up this argument that the things that Dave is like breaking down, media can make it look like, oh those are the actual bad guys and we're just here to protect us from those guys.
00:54:12.000 Nevermind, okay yeah we're gonna have this conversation about Election meddling and all of these other different things, but let's ignore the fact that our government, so-called deep state, whatever, has been doing it forever.
00:54:23.000 I think that part is the general public is going to have to ask, do you want to be the Republican to free vote and fall back and hold those parties or those public servants in that position to do that?
00:54:35.000 Or are you okay with just being the empire?
00:54:37.000 But empires generally fall.
00:54:39.000 Yeah, and that's right.
00:54:40.000 Can I just say, real quickly, there's that.
00:54:42.000 Even if you don't care about, like, the innocent women and children being slaughtered in all of these countries, like, hypothetically, if you're just like, that's not your thing.
00:54:50.000 Okay, look what it's given us.
00:54:52.000 Right.
00:54:52.000 Like, this whole, like, domestic war on terrorism now that Joe Biden is pointing in at Donald Trump supporters, what's he using?
00:55:01.000 He's going to use the Patriot Act and the Department of Homeland Security and everything that those guys supported, that they voted for, in the name of fighting the Muslims, right?
00:55:10.000 That's what's going to be turned on their own people.
00:55:12.000 And what did every single one of us say as activists in the late 2000s and early 2010s?
00:55:19.000 What Obama was doing was, this is exactly what is going to happen.
00:55:22.000 You know, I appreciated Greg Gutfeld, who I love, who's got a show on Fox News, as a lot of you know, I'm sure.
00:55:28.000 But he said, he was like, you know, I was one of those guys, and he named me as one of the people.
00:55:32.000 Like, he was like, you know, all these people would tell me, like Glenn Greenwald and Dave Smith, and like, and I think he said Matt Taibbi.
00:55:38.000 And he'd go, they all go, you know, if the government can do this to Muslims, they can do it to you.
00:55:41.000 And I was like, no, they'd never do that.
00:55:42.000 And I really appreciate it, and he admitted it.
00:55:44.000 He goes, hey, I might have been right about that.
00:55:47.000 I gotta say, there was a point.
00:55:48.000 Hey, man, even Tucker, right?
00:55:50.000 A lot of people who were very much pro-machine are now going, hey, I think we were wrong about that.
00:55:55.000 Yeah.
00:55:55.000 I'm like, respect, man.
00:55:56.000 I give Tucker a lot of credit for that, because he was like a real supporter of the war in Iraq, I believe, in 2003, 2004.
00:56:01.000 And he turned around pretty early.
00:56:04.000 I think it was like 2005.
00:56:05.000 I think he went there, and he was like, oh, yeah, this is, I was way wrong about this.
00:56:10.000 And now he's become It's so weird in this world that the 8 p.m.
00:56:13.000 Fox News hour is the biggest anti-war voice in the corporate press.
00:56:18.000 Here's what we said, because we had a boomer on the show, and we told her that feminists are the pro-war faction now, and she didn't believe it because she was a feminist.
00:56:27.000 And then it was Richie McGinnis and his mom, and Richie goes, no, yeah, that's right.
00:56:31.000 I said, think about it.
00:56:32.000 You have a group of people, one wearing red hats, one wearing pussy hats.
00:56:35.000 Which side is pro-war?
00:56:37.000 The Trump supporters are more likely to be angry, being like, stop.
00:56:40.000 And the pussyhats are going to be like, how much money can we give to Ukraine for this war effort?
00:56:43.000 Yeah.
00:56:44.000 And I'll tell you, I wish the, like, I'm happy with the movement to being more anti-war on the right.
00:56:50.000 I think it's like the best development in the last 15 years.
00:56:54.000 But I just want, I want, I want them to be better.
00:56:57.000 You know what I mean?
00:56:57.000 I think they're still not quite good enough.
00:57:00.000 But yeah, it is crazy how much the left was co-opted.
00:57:04.000 Although, I will say that what's kind of interesting is that a lot of the people who were really good on the left are now just labeled as right-wingers.
00:57:13.000 Right.
00:57:13.000 And I think you kind of fall into that category.
00:57:15.000 Of course.
00:57:16.000 Jimmy Dore is right-wing now.
00:57:17.000 He's a socialist.
00:57:17.000 Well, that's right.
00:57:18.000 Glenn Greenwald and Jimmy Dore.
00:57:20.000 That's how you be.
00:57:21.000 Right.
00:57:22.000 I think you fall into that category, too.
00:57:24.000 You were kind of one of the people who would have considered yourself on the left, who, as that switch happened, were like, well, no, I'm not going to go into being the pro-CIA, pro-war camp.
00:57:32.000 Julian Assange.
00:57:33.000 That's not what we are.
00:57:34.000 When they started coming after Julian Assange, I was like, why is the left all of a sudden mad at the guy who's good?
00:57:40.000 I don't understand what's going on here.
00:57:42.000 And then they were like, because he helped Trump.
00:57:43.000 And I'm like, and?
00:57:44.000 Like, what I'm saying to y'all is, see, you guys are explaining things from a very highly level, a big understanding of this political thing that's going on, right?
00:57:56.000 Again, simplifying it for the general public.
00:57:58.000 The massive overcorrections, sorry, air quotes, that's happening on both sides, there's general public.
00:58:04.000 To your point about you that are going like, hey, this is the standard that I stand for.
00:58:08.000 I'm objective here.
00:58:09.000 It doesn't matter who, I'm not going to switch because it's, oh, he said he was giving Trump, he was helping Trump.
00:58:14.000 No, he was, he was saying the thing that was right, right?
00:58:17.000 What we have to do is make sure that we're translating this to the general public that understands like, hey, they're feeling that same way.
00:58:24.000 Nah, I was with this, but that, I thought I was with that, but that's bullshit.
00:58:27.000 It's so hard when you look like... Jennifer Lawrence gave an interview where she said, we could have had Hillary Clinton, but people just wouldn't vote for her because she had a vagina.
00:58:35.000 And I'm like, well, for me, it was because she wanted to start a war with Russia.
00:58:39.000 And because she said, we came, we saw he died, and was overseeing, she was Secretary of State, while we were blowing up kids and giving lucrative contracts to our buddies, like the government.
00:58:47.000 It's so, by the way, not only is it...
00:58:50.000 like that not only is it untrue and that there's plenty of reasons to hate Hillary Clinton
00:58:54.000 it is the complete inverse of what is true right what is true is that Hillary Clinton
00:58:59.000 was only there because she was a woman she was married to the president and then gifted
00:59:06.000 a senate seat in a state she didn't even live in off of that and then ran for president
00:59:12.000 off that and lost to Barack Obama but because she was the second best given the secretary
00:59:16.000 of state role the fact is that she walked into the role because she was a woman but
00:59:20.000 yeah there's lots of reasons to hate her.
00:59:23.000 This is where they are.
00:59:25.000 So I have a friend who's a Hollywood actress, and this is a couple years ago, and she said something like passively, like the only reason they voted for him was to hate brown people.
00:59:33.000 And then I was like, what does that mean?
00:59:36.000 What do you mean by that?
00:59:36.000 And she's like, the Trump supporters, they don't actually care about policy, they just hate brown people.
00:59:41.000 And I was like, is that what you think about these people?
00:59:44.000 I'll give you an example.
00:59:45.000 I was in Anaheim, and there were three Trump supporters.
00:59:47.000 Two young guys, one older guy.
00:59:49.000 And I asked them why they supported Trump, and they said, actually, they were Bernie supporters.
00:59:52.000 But when given the choice between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, Donald Trump was as close as they could get to a Bernie Sanders.
01:00:00.000 Not that they were particularly close, but on a lot of issues, they were.
01:00:03.000 And so they said, I'll take it because those matter to me.
01:00:06.000 Had nothing to do with race at all.
01:00:09.000 Oh, there were hundreds of districts that went for Obama that flipped to Trump in 2016.
01:00:14.000 9 million people.
01:00:15.000 The idea that race was the driving factor in that is silly.
01:00:19.000 My point here is, you're right, we gotta find their level, but when people genuinely are misled and live in bubble world echo chamber cult land because of the media, it is not that easy.
01:00:30.000 No, no, it's not going to be fucking easy.
01:00:32.000 What I'm saying is we just have a severe opportunity here.
01:00:35.000 And I say severe because, and I choose that word carefully, severe meaning this opportunity you might not even like get it again.
01:00:42.000 Like, there is absolutely no way that you have these type of conversations, right?
01:00:48.000 And people are seeing that pendulum keep going both, boom, left, right, boom, red, blue, red, blue.
01:00:54.000 We have a severe opportunity to go, well, here's some other options.
01:00:57.000 Here's libertarian.
01:00:58.000 Here's independent.
01:01:01.000 These people are tired.
01:01:02.000 You just have to explain it to them.
01:01:06.000 You may not be able to do it on Facebook because in about two weeks they're going to start shutting anything that's leaning anywhere right of center.
01:01:13.000 Shit is getting suppressed.
01:01:14.000 Well, it's true and you know, I like to say I might have said this on the show before once too, but I got sometimes you're like You could be looking through like, you know going on a YouTube journey and you'd go to like, you know You scroll them like these social justice warrior, you know Like videos and then you'll scroll on like some alt-right videos and like all this and you go.
01:01:30.000 Oh my god we're like on the verge of a race war in this country, but then you go to the supermarket and And some black guy walks in front of you and he goes, oh, pardon me.
01:01:40.000 And you go, oh, no, you're good, go ahead.
01:01:41.000 And then you open the door and you're like, no, you know, I think we're fine.
01:01:43.000 And I'm like, I don't think any of this is real.
01:01:47.000 And I'm saying that, well, I don't think I am.
01:01:49.000 I think that the vast majority of people in this country really are sick of the culture war stuff.
01:01:56.000 They care about the fact that prices are getting out of control.
01:01:59.000 They care about the fact that the economy is not working for them.
01:02:02.000 And the truth is that we need, this is what the whole- Yes, yes, yes.
01:02:05.000 That's true.
01:02:06.000 Yeah.
01:02:06.000 It's the economy, stupid.
01:02:08.000 But, see, people say things like, you know, Bill Burr said this recently on Trigonometry.
01:02:12.000 He's like, you go on the internet, people, the Civil War or whatever, but then you go on the real world, people are just minding their own business, doing their thing.
01:02:18.000 It's like, yes, it's no surprise to me that when you are in a liberal area, liberals are fine with each other.
01:02:23.000 It's no surprise to me that when you go to a conservative area, conservatives are fine with each other.
01:02:27.000 But go to an area where the streams, the rivers are mixing, and you're seeing people get shot in the chest, like Aaron Danielson.
01:02:33.000 When those clashes start happening, it's like, oh, Yes, New York is overwhelmingly liberal so they're not fighting each other.
01:02:40.000 They're still riots.
01:02:42.000 I went down to a conservative area where the cafes, the fast food restaurants all had like Bible study on the walls and I'm like, man, Chick-fil-A gets protests in the city.
01:02:51.000 That's where the streams mix and they don't get along and there's violent riots.
01:02:56.000 I'm not denying any of that, but I'm saying that there's way more people, way more than
01:03:01.000 those incidents are people who are just really worried about like their daughter, who's like
01:03:07.000 failing out of eighth grade math and their son who's like, got to go to college next
01:03:11.000 year and what America needs.
01:03:13.000 This is what we're trying to push is that what we really need is like solutions to the
01:03:17.000 problems that actually matter.
01:03:19.000 This is why, this is why I really highly encourage people to give the Libertarian Party a look.
01:03:23.000 LP.org slash join.
01:03:25.000 Come check us out.
01:03:26.000 Here's our message.
01:03:27.000 Okay.
01:03:28.000 And let me just get this.
01:03:29.000 Let me get this out.
01:03:30.000 This is my big plug.
01:03:31.000 Okay.
01:03:32.000 We took over the Libertarian Party.
01:03:33.000 These are my people and Maja's people who are in there now.
01:03:34.000 Here's what we stand for a whole different, a whole different option than the Republicans
01:03:39.000 How about end all of the wars, end all of the remnants of the COVID regime and the COVID restrictions, end all of the corporate bailouts, all of this federal militarization of the police, as well as local militarization of the police, end the crazy...
01:03:55.000 Well, I'm saying like the entire domestic war on terrorism and the foreign war on terrorism and all of it.
01:04:00.000 War on drugs.
01:04:01.000 End the war on drugs, repeal the Patriot Act, abolish the FBI and the ATF and all of these awful organizations that are a disgrace to a professed free society.
01:04:12.000 End all gun control.
01:04:13.000 Like, let's stop locking people in cages.
01:04:16.000 Let's end all of these things that are pitting Americans against each other and give being a free country a shot.
01:04:22.000 That's what we need right now.
01:04:24.000 We need a revolution of freedom in this country.
01:04:27.000 Those are the people that, even when you explain it that way, I live in a lefty city.
01:04:33.000 People are clearly, they know that we do firearms training.
01:04:36.000 They know that, oh he's pictures with Donald Trump Jr.
01:04:39.000 They know all of this.
01:04:40.000 There's no way, shape or form, in explaining that to that group of people, they're like, No, I thought you guys were like crazy, but now that we've had this actual genuine outreach, now that changes the dynamic.
01:04:53.000 My point in saying that is, I think that's the part where, because both so-called sides are tired, that that gives us that severe opportunity, and that's where that conversation needs to continue.
01:05:04.000 This is why, on the surface, I'm in favor of ranked choice voting.
01:05:08.000 Because my first choice would be the Libertarian Party, particularly because the Mises Caucus took over.
01:05:13.000 But I have the fear right now that if I vote for the Libertarian Party, Democrats could win.
01:05:19.000 So this is the inherent problem of the first-past-the-post system, is that my best bet is just vote Republican, even if it's Donald Trump, because I don't want to see the Democrats maintain control.
01:05:29.000 What about locally?
01:05:31.000 Locally, too?
01:05:34.000 It's the same thing.
01:05:35.000 Okay, so there is definitely, given the current circumstances, there's a certain way that a third party needs to be used, right?
01:05:41.000 So I think that what the Libertarian Party should be doing, essentially, my vision for it, now that we have it, is that if there are really good Republicans who are really good on, say, opposing war and Opposing the militarization of the police and all of these things that we care about, then okay.
01:06:00.000 Then yes, we should basically, if we're running and making the difference in that race where we could give it to a Democrat, essentially what we should do is make demands to that Republican.
01:06:08.000 Say, we want you to get even a little bit better on these issues.
01:06:11.000 We want promises.
01:06:12.000 If you're the incumbent, we want actual things.
01:06:14.000 And then endorse them?
01:06:15.000 And then kind of support them.
01:06:16.000 And if you're like a neocon, rhino, awful Republican, then we will cost you your job.
01:06:21.000 So don't ever run these people again because we will give you the other job.
01:06:25.000 But I will also say that, you know, with someone like Donald Trump, I don't know that there's even that strong of an argument.
01:06:34.000 Although I enjoy him owning the libs and triggering everybody.
01:06:37.000 You're talking about like when you got him in there.
01:06:40.000 We had 2020.
01:06:42.000 We had Fauci on the job for all of 2020 while Donald Trump was in there.
01:06:47.000 So that to me, I'd be like, I wouldn't even consider the idea that, oh, well, we better vote for Donald Trump instead of Joe Biden.
01:06:56.000 And I'm saying this from your own perspective.
01:07:00.000 These are the same arguments, though.
01:07:02.000 Every fucking four years, this is going to be the same argument.
01:07:04.000 I agree, I agree.
01:07:05.000 At what point you say, I'm not eating sugar.
01:07:10.000 The shit is delicious, right?
01:07:12.000 You stop.
01:07:13.000 Those cookies, man, where they at?
01:07:14.000 But you stop.
01:07:15.000 It's rough for a bit, but you stop.
01:07:18.000 As opposed to going, well, I'm going down the street and been going down the street for however long.
01:07:22.000 Even if it's locally, even if... I mean, at what point do we say, this isn't good enough, we gotta do better.
01:07:28.000 I agree with that, except the analogy would be more like, you've got the choice between sugar and beer.
01:07:36.000 And I'm like, I'm not touching the alcohol.
01:07:38.000 I would eat sugar before I drink alcohol.
01:07:41.000 Alcohol really messes me up.
01:07:42.000 It messes everybody up.
01:07:44.000 Look, I got this whoop thing and people are like, you're wearing that government tracker, what are you doing it?
01:07:48.000 Blame Luke.
01:07:48.000 Luke told me to get it and he's supposedly the anti-government.
01:07:51.000 But anyway.
01:07:52.000 I drank one beer.
01:07:54.000 I wake up and it's like, my whoop tells me I'm dying.
01:07:56.000 It's like your respiratory system was in decline, your temperature was spiking, you're fatigued, because beer is poison.
01:08:03.000 But if the choices between... The lesser of two evils?
01:08:07.000 Have the sugar, which...
01:08:08.000 Okay, you know, I choose not to do shit because I think it's bad, but if I have to have one of them, and then, you know, you see what the point is?
01:08:16.000 Yeah, I get your point.
01:08:18.000 Look, I don't agree with you on the, you know, Trump and Biden, what's the difference essentially, right?
01:08:23.000 Well, there certainly are differences.
01:08:24.000 So just to be clear, I'm not even saying, even if you're going to argue that you're like, look, it's better, like I'm not saying everything's perfect, but one's way worse than the other, okay?
01:08:32.000 even if I grant that, I'm saying that, look, putting Trump in there led to what?
01:08:40.000 It led to Biden.
01:08:41.000 We, like, at a certain point, we have to say, look, this is what, look, basically the Republicans
01:08:47.000 and the Democrats have both committed in effect treason against the American people.
01:08:52.000 And like, this is the United States of America, damn it.
01:08:55.000 At a certain point, we got to stand up and say, like, no, we're, I'm not saying I would
01:08:59.000 never vote for the lesser of two evils.
01:09:01.000 I would vote for the lesser of two evils in some situation.
01:09:03.000 This is too damn evil on both sides.
01:09:07.000 There has to be some line in the sand where I go, no, I'm sorry, the guy who kept Fauci as the head of the COVID response and put him on TV every day through 2020, when the biggest moment, the biggest crisis of Donald Trump's life came, he failed.
01:09:23.000 He got an F on that score.
01:09:25.000 You criticized Joe Biden.
01:09:26.000 That means you're a Trump supporter.
01:09:27.000 Yeah, that is true.
01:09:28.000 I suppose that's true.
01:09:29.000 No, and obviously Joe Biden's awful, and all of the people he's put around him are just horrible, and they've done, like, basically everything wrong.
01:09:37.000 And it's a disaster.
01:09:38.000 But I'm just saying, how long?
01:09:39.000 We don't have another, we don't really have an option right now to say, let's put this off for another four years with a slightly less version.
01:09:46.000 This country will be over.
01:09:47.000 Look, I think what it really comes down to is, like, I agree with you on all of the ideal positions, and then you're a revolutionary and I'm a reformer.
01:09:56.000 So I look at Donald Trump like, I like the school choice move, I think it's very important.
01:10:01.000 Banning critical race theory trainings at the government level, that's critical.
01:10:06.000 Listen, I agree.
01:10:06.000 I think you're right that I'm a revolutionary and you're a reformer.
01:10:09.000 I'd settle for being a reformer.
01:10:11.000 is those are good things pushing back against that.
01:10:14.000 I listen, I agree with that. I think you're right that I'm a revolutionary and you're a reformer.
01:10:21.000 I'd settle for being a reformer. He's not even that. That's the problem.
01:10:26.000 I'd settle for, it's not as if, people treat me, I know they say, like I had a debate with Styx.
01:10:32.000 Do you know him?
01:10:34.000 He's great.
01:10:35.000 I like him a lot.
01:10:36.000 But we had a debate and some of his, we debated over Trump and his people were saying to me, they're like, Dave, you're just making the perfect the enemy of the good.
01:10:43.000 And my point is like, no.
01:10:45.000 I'm making the bad the enemy of the good.
01:10:48.000 Listen, what I care about is liberty, because liberty is what leads to a prosperous and stable society.
01:10:54.000 It's not like Donald Trump.
01:10:56.000 They're acting like Donald Trump, let's say, cut the government by 50%, and I'm going, that's not good enough!
01:11:03.000 I want a hundred percent.
01:11:05.000 But that's not it.
01:11:05.000 You know what I mean?
01:11:06.000 He grew the government.
01:11:08.000 It's not like he did something in the right direction, and I'm saying it wasn't enough.
01:11:14.000 I'm saying when he was elected president, he didn't really have control of the executive branch, but he was the president and the Republicans had the House and the Senate, and spending from Barack Obama went up.
01:11:29.000 Like I'm sorry, he's not even moving us in the right direction.
01:11:32.000 If the car is headed off the cliff, he's going faster than we were under Barack Obama.
01:11:37.000 Now hold on, you said that voting for Trump got us Biden, and that's not a good thing.
01:11:42.000 But I'm kind of like, my argument to a lot of the Antifa people is that Donald Trump was their vote, not Joe Biden.
01:11:48.000 It was really weird to see Antifa people be like, well, I don't like Joe Biden, but Trump is a fascist.
01:11:53.000 And I'm like, if you think Trump is going to destroy this country, you think he's burning it down and breaking it into a million pieces, then you'd want to vote for him.
01:12:01.000 Because if the end result is just Joe Biden and the system is collapsing, well, then perhaps that's what restores the Republic.
01:12:08.000 Or leads to something far worse than that.
01:12:10.000 I think both positions have to be taken at the same time.
01:12:16.000 We're too late in the game to just pick one or the other at this point.
01:12:20.000 There has to be people that are willing to say, hey, I'm a reformer.
01:12:23.000 These are the areas where I'm going to reform.
01:12:25.000 You're a revolutionary.
01:12:27.000 These are the areas.
01:12:28.000 Tell me more about this revolutionary shit.
01:12:29.000 The people in the middle that don't even know that both of these other options exist are the people that we both have to collectively and individually gauge.
01:12:37.000 and get that's the part that's the because there's people on the sidelines
01:12:40.000 going that are gonna listen to this and they're gonna first thing I'm gonna be
01:12:43.000 like well Maj wouldn't even saying shit I don't fucking have to you guys are
01:12:46.000 gonna say stuff and I'm gonna go this is what they mean by this breakdown there
01:12:50.000 are people in the middle that are like I reform on some of these areas I'm
01:12:55.000 revolutionary in these Maybe locally, maybe in a small town, maybe in New Hampshire.
01:13:01.000 Maybe we go, okay, we're going to just revamp this.
01:13:04.000 Maybe what DeSantis is doing in Florida, he's definitely going to win, but he's like, okay, now I'm going local.
01:13:10.000 Now I'm going to talk to all of these other people too.
01:13:12.000 That's a model that we can emulate.
01:13:14.000 Okay, to your point, okay, no, Trump is absolutely not as horrible as Biden, but to your point, you're saying, yeah, but dude's still fucking spending us into fucking oblivion, right?
01:13:27.000 At the same time, okay, you're the realist.
01:13:30.000 These are how some of these things go currently.
01:13:32.000 You're like, well, they shouldn't fucking go this way currently and they never should have and here's how they're wrong.
01:13:38.000 You have to be able to explain that to the general public that are in the middle.
01:13:43.000 We're not arguing against, and you guys aren't obviously, we're not arguing against each other, we're listening, we're talking really to the people that are watching that we don't even know are watching to inform them about here's how this person was horrible, here's how this person was great, here's how locally you can avoid that, and here's how you can completely abolish that.
01:14:02.000 But just to your point that we're not arguing here, I mean look, we're basically on the same page with all this stuff, right?
01:14:07.000 And so it almost becomes a question of like strategy, like what do we do at this point?
01:14:12.000 Because we're really in a crumbling we're in a crumbling society and this is a very dangerous situation
01:14:16.000 No, I agree with you, but I do think that the way forward I agree seizing the federal government is not the way phone
01:14:23.000 I mean that by winning an election becoming president not the way to wait forward is to try to
01:14:28.000 Have as much of an awakening of as big a group of people as you can
01:14:33.000 To recognize what the core of the problem is here Yeah
01:14:36.000 like everyone kind of senses that there's a major problem in this society and what we need to do is kind of wake
01:14:40.000 people up To realize that and and I will I would argue very passionately
01:14:44.000 that really the problem is that we've completely Drifted away from everything this country was supposed to
01:14:49.000 write. Yeah, which is the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights and the idea of individual liberty.
01:14:54.000 Sure, sure.
01:14:55.000 So, I'm curious your thoughts on rank choice voting.
01:14:57.000 Can I finish your- Oh yeah, of course.
01:14:59.000 What do you guys think on rank choice voting?
01:14:59.000 Grab another bottle.
01:15:01.000 I think it would be an improvement over the current situation, sure. I mean, I don't know
01:15:05.000 that that necessarily solves everything, but I think that the – I mean, look, like you said
01:15:11.000 before, we kind of have this uniparty, what a lot of libertarians like to call the duopoly, you know,
01:15:16.000 of like two parties who are basically a monopoly. The system's completely rigged against third
01:15:23.000 parties. Look what they're doing to Larry Sharp in New York, where they just raised the requirement
01:15:27.000 to get – I believe he was in court today. I don't know what ended up happening with that.
01:15:31.000 But – We've had him on several times. Cool.
01:15:33.000 Yeah. Yeah. We love Larry Sharp. But so, yeah, I think that would be an improvement. But I think
01:15:39.000 from my perspective, almost like on a more of a meta level, it's like people have to like kind
01:15:45.000 of wake up to accepting that this is only going to work when –
01:15:50.000 When enough people go, we're not falling into this game anymore.
01:15:54.000 Where you go, okay, if from your perspective you believe that this evil party is 5% less evil than this evil party, then we'll fall in line with them.
01:16:03.000 Because this is what they do.
01:16:04.000 This is how the game's been played, right?
01:16:05.000 It's like, Bush is such a disaster that you know what, those swing voters will swing over to Obama.
01:16:10.000 And then Obama's such a disaster that those swing voters will swing over to Trump.
01:16:14.000 And then Trump is just such a headache and everyone's just so over him and the response to him and all of this that like, Oh, I guess dead people will just vote for Joe Biden.
01:16:26.000 He really won the dead vote.
01:16:29.000 But you know what I'm saying?
01:16:29.000 Like this game, and there's got to be a way to kind of break out of this.
01:16:33.000 But I think, but yes, yeah, we have the technology for the 50 governors to get on a Skype chat, to get on Slack, to get on some video chat.
01:16:41.000 Every day.
01:16:42.000 It's the legislators.
01:16:43.000 Let's get them on a show.
01:16:44.000 The problem is that we have the technology, but people have been looking at it as if we don't.
01:16:48.000 Like they're stuck in this past state of mind where we got to send letters and wait two weeks to hear back and like, dude, the solutions are in front of us literally right now.
01:16:56.000 All four of us.
01:16:57.000 Hear me out, guys.
01:16:58.000 Here we go.
01:16:58.000 So here's what I was thinking, like, you know, the problem is, you're right, you go back and forth, we're swinging, it's getting crazy, one guy gets in, there's a bunch of bad stuff, so then everyone's like, I'll go vote for this guy, then here's a bunch of bad stuff, and I'm like, what if there was a simpler way to do it?
01:17:10.000 You know, what if we just had, like, one person who just, you know, we put in charge to run the system, and then we didn't have to worry about voting or anything like that, like, you know, when they got too old, their kid would just take over for them, and then, you know, their kids, and then, you know.
01:17:23.000 Have you been reading Hoppa?
01:17:24.000 This is a...
01:17:26.000 I got a question about war.
01:17:29.000 You were talking about cutting back on the military, basically, in general, which I'm pretty much anti-war, but I'm also, these days, I've been thinking to myself, maybe I'm a realist, that we've been running the war machine, the United States was tasked with the liberal economic order, the British Empire, the Americans, the Australians, whatever.
01:17:44.000 If we just stopped, would not Boeing just start selling planes and weapons to the Chinese CCP, and then they would take over and become a military dominating force, putting troops China taking over the world is just not happening.
01:17:55.000 Look, we are so much richer than China is.
01:17:56.000 But that's not the idea this idea is like so ridiculous dude. It's like so okay
01:18:01.000 So then I guess we just got a prop up Boeing because someone else could prop up Boeing if we don't prop up
01:18:06.000 But I'm looking at China listen man. I know that this is like China taking over the world is just not happening look
01:18:13.000 We are so much richer than China is if you the amount of poverty that they have in their country compared to us
01:18:19.000 What about like we can't afford to do this we're 30 trillion dollars in debt
01:18:24.000 We're going bankrupt doing this.
01:18:25.000 China is doing the exact opposite of what we're doing.
01:18:28.000 They're going around and investing in other parts of the world while we spend ourselves into debt.
01:18:32.000 China, by the way, is in a bubble economy that is 10,000 times bigger than the bubble that we have right here.
01:18:39.000 This thing is going to pop.
01:18:40.000 China couldn't even get through dominating their own region, let alone dominating the entire world.
01:18:46.000 Don't get me wrong, China is a really messed up government.
01:18:49.000 They're a communist government that basically figured out that they should allow prices
01:18:54.000 and businesses.
01:18:55.000 So they're not quite communist in the way that Mao Zedong was communist, but they're
01:18:58.000 still kind of communist and it's kind of fascist, I guess.
01:19:01.000 And they're evil and they do a lot of bad things.
01:19:04.000 But this idea that like, oh, if we didn't prop up the military-industrial complex, that
01:19:08.000 then China would prop up our military-industrial complex.
01:19:11.000 Look, man, here's what matters.
01:19:13.000 We got two oceans on either side of us.
01:19:15.000 We got the biggest nuclear arsenal in the world, or at least one of the biggest nuclear arsenals in the world.
01:19:20.000 We got the, you know, we have 400 million guns or something in that neighborhood.
01:19:27.000 No one's a threat to us.
01:19:29.000 Period.
01:19:30.000 The idea that China's gonna come halfway around the world- No, no, they come from the ocean.
01:19:33.000 It comes from the orbit.
01:19:35.000 It's just you see it before it gets here.
01:19:37.000 I don't know if that's true There's a listen man if China want so so in that case that could they could do it right now Nothing to do with the history of earth is basically there is a military Dominator it almost at all times.
01:19:49.000 There's somebody that's the most powerful military force and they are controlling things There were empires way before America became an empire, but from the beginning of America, we were still a free country.
01:19:59.000 That's not our job to worry about, man.
01:20:01.000 And I'm sorry, I know that rubs people the wrong way, because they have this idea that we have to be the good guys of the world, even though we're objectively the bad guys in the world.
01:20:10.000 But the truth is that, like I said before, we can't even protect freedom in our country.
01:20:14.000 We're not spreading it around the world.
01:20:16.000 Let's say the best thing America ever did for the world was exporting the best parts
01:20:22.000 of our culture.
01:20:23.000 Was it was that people wanted to listen to our music and wear our blue jeans and be cool
01:20:30.000 like us?
01:20:31.000 That's the best influence we could have on the world.
01:20:32.000 You being a free country here.
01:20:34.000 Do you think on the dawn of colonization of Mars that it's OK not to be strive to be the
01:20:40.000 military dominating force on earth as a country?
01:20:42.000 Or should we give that power to a corporation or to another country?
01:20:47.000 I would say that to keep us a free country, I am okay with sacrificing colonizing Mars.
01:20:55.000 When you say free country, do you mean that you're not like anyone can do anything?
01:21:02.000 Because in a totally open system, it can be co-opted very easily by outside forces.
01:21:05.000 No, when I say freedom, I mean liberty.
01:21:07.000 I mean negative rights.
01:21:08.000 I mean the right to life, liberty, property.
01:21:12.000 So like no spying on people, that kind of stuff, you'd get rid of that.
01:21:14.000 But then what happens then when the CCP is spying and infiltrating our media and making us think things like communism good?
01:21:21.000 I've always thought communism was good.
01:21:23.000 I mean, you know, who's really done more to infiltrate our country?
01:21:27.000 I mean, how do they even infiltrate it?
01:21:30.000 They infiltrate what?
01:21:31.000 What do they pay off?
01:21:32.000 Commercials or bots?
01:21:33.000 What do they pay off our president's son?
01:21:34.000 Bot farms on social media followers.
01:21:36.000 Yeah, but that's always what they tell you.
01:21:37.000 Universities.
01:21:38.000 Right, universities.
01:21:39.000 The government program that is universities that's completely backed up by loans coming from the government.
01:21:44.000 Oh yeah, social media companies that the government is... Comments.
01:21:47.000 No comments.
01:21:48.000 This is all nonsense, dude.
01:21:49.000 The idea that social media comments have had this huge influence, you know, the truth is that all that's happened is that's been used as an excuse for the government to crack down on social media companies and insist that... What do you mean?
01:22:00.000 Huh?
01:22:02.000 We see it all the time.
01:22:02.000 Companies caving to 30 people over nonsense.
01:22:06.000 So, we were doing an event... Yeah, but those are real people you're talking about.
01:22:10.000 They're like social justice warriors.
01:22:12.000 There's no way to tell.
01:22:13.000 There's no way to tell.
01:22:14.000 And some of it very well could be China.
01:22:16.000 They call it the 50 Cent Army.
01:22:17.000 You know what this is?
01:22:18.000 Yeah, I've heard of it.
01:22:19.000 They go out there, they post pro-CCP stuff.
01:22:21.000 We've also heard from other people who are familiar with China's actions that they're encouraging wokeness in the United States.
01:22:28.000 TikTok, for instance, allows it here, but doesn't allow it there.
01:22:31.000 So I've personally experienced this where you get one person pretending to be 50 to try and force a business and it works.
01:22:39.000 Okay, so I'm not arguing that that has never had an effect on say like a business.
01:22:43.000 I'm talking about more like I'm like subverting the entire country.
01:22:46.000 But if you look at the main ways what people try to infiltrate is they try to infiltrate the institutions of the government or I suppose you could say universities, which is again basically a giant government program it's all
01:22:57.000 completely propped up by government-backed loans or the whole industry wouldn't exist. I think that
01:23:03.000 yeah look you'd need to have a culture to guard against that type of stuff. Like liberty. Right
01:23:08.000 and that's what you need is a culture if you want to guard against communism you really like to have
01:23:13.000 a culture that believes in liberty and also strong families and and strong values and all the
01:23:18.000 government does is undermine all of this.
01:23:21.000 Chinese bots and all of those different things to infiltrate that?
01:23:25.000 the kind of like undermining churches and communities and all of this.
01:23:29.000 This is what big government has gotten us.
01:23:30.000 So in essence, I guess your question would be in essence, how do we prop up against things like that? China, Chinese,
01:23:36.000 uh, bots and all of those different things to infiltrate that
01:23:40.000 to the point it's our government doing it more than anybody else.
01:23:44.000 And if we're going along with it and we're weakening it because the government is telling us to, right?
01:23:51.000 Again, 2020, instead of us genuinely saying, fuck no, I'm not wearing a mask.
01:23:55.000 I'm not wearing a fucking vaccine.
01:23:56.000 My business didn't close the entire time.
01:23:59.000 We didn't stop at Black Guns Matter.
01:24:00.000 We kept going.
01:24:01.000 That is a culture of we're free.
01:24:04.000 Now, if something is really there, we're going to be safe and responsible.
01:24:07.000 We're going to mitigate our freedoms or our safety based on that freedom.
01:24:12.000 That culture compared to, hey, CCP where we build stuff and people jump out of the fucking building and there's nets to catch them from killing themselves, when you compare that to a young person, you show them that difference, as opposed to them being told, yeah, socialism is great and there's nothing to really counter that, no real information, then of course it's going to be more difficult.
01:24:12.000 Right?
01:24:32.000 But that's not overwhelmingly coming from China.
01:24:36.000 Yeah.
01:24:37.000 Would you use, like, American propaganda to push that message on people?
01:24:41.000 What do you mean by propaganda?
01:24:43.000 Well, like, little kids are the most susceptible.
01:24:44.000 They made cigarette commercials illegal and, like, this, whatever.
01:24:47.000 Well, they made little kids fucking do the Pledge of Allegiance.
01:24:51.000 Yeah, as a form of national propaganda to get people on board with American ideals.
01:24:55.000 I think that...
01:24:56.000 That word propaganda is kind of loaded, right?
01:24:59.000 Because me saying I believe that everyone should have a firearm to be able to defend themselves and telling them about their human right to self-defense, me articulating that well is a form of propaganda, right?
01:25:10.000 And it's in alignment with my agenda, which is freedom and liberty.
01:25:13.000 Right?
01:25:14.000 So when you say propaganda, what do you mean?
01:25:16.000 Do you mean like Bernays just fucking lied to you?
01:25:19.000 Yeah, like how deep would you take it?
01:25:19.000 Propaganda?
01:25:21.000 Because I think right now they're using Google to subvert what they think is American, whatever ideals, to combat the CCP that's putting in like, hey kids, be a communist.
01:25:29.000 Hold on, let me just ask, because you're saying when they're using Google, who do you mean is using Google to combat the CCP?
01:25:34.000 Well, we know the FBI is in tight with social media networks telling them what to post, what not to post, if and when.
01:25:41.000 Yeah, right. Yeah, it's very murky as to who exactly.
01:25:44.000 And they certainly, at least according to Mark Zuckerberg, when he was asked why they suppressed the Hunter Biden
01:25:49.000 story, the first thing he said was, well, the FBI came to us and
01:25:52.000 told us there was going to be this big Russian dump.
01:25:53.000 And then when there was this dump, they said this was all the dump.
01:25:56.000 They all said this was the Russian propaganda.
01:25:58.000 So again, I'm just saying like...
01:26:00.000 They told their staff not to investigate it.
01:26:02.000 So they knew what they were doing.
01:26:04.000 So, you know, if your concern is that, like, China is gonna propagandize us, I just, like, I go, okay, but, like, this is to justify the regime in Washington, D.C., but then, like, look at who's actually propagandizing our kids.
01:26:16.000 I mean, like, look at who's actually propagandizing them right now.
01:26:19.000 It's the public school corporations as well.
01:26:21.000 I got an idea.
01:26:22.000 Some extent.
01:26:23.000 So I think we've talked a lot about the things we don't like, a lot of the problems.
01:26:27.000 Give me your guys' vision of what America should be.
01:26:31.000 Well, look, I mean, what America should be is, it should be the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence.
01:26:38.000 I mean that as a starting point.
01:26:39.000 That's what we should have in this country.
01:26:42.000 It didn't have to be this way, okay?
01:26:45.000 There was nothing that was written in the stars that everything had to go this way.
01:26:50.000 And I'm not saying it has to be my utopia, that I want it to be this perfect libertarian anarchist system.
01:26:56.000 Sure, that would be best.
01:26:57.000 But I'm just saying we didn't have to respond to 9-11 by starting seven stupid wars and
01:27:03.000 killing all of these people and passing the Patriot Act and all of this.
01:27:07.000 We could have just, let's say, we just say, even went into Afghanistan and killed Osama
01:27:14.000 bin Laden and Toribora when we had him cornered and came home.
01:27:18.000 The war on terrorism was over by Christmas of 2001.
01:27:23.000 We could have just not had artificially low interest rates in the early 2000s and blew up this housing bubble and had the financial crisis in 2008.
01:27:31.000 We could have just not responded to COVID in an insane way.
01:27:35.000 We could have just had a government who came out and went, you know, there's this upper respiratory virus.
01:27:39.000 We think if you're at risk, you should probably stay home.
01:27:41.000 That's our advice to you.
01:27:42.000 Everyone else, you know, be careful.
01:27:44.000 If you feel sick, stay home.
01:27:44.000 Maybe wash your hands.
01:27:46.000 We could have not tanked the entire economy and printed six trillion dollars in a year and destroyed everything.
01:27:51.000 So all I'm saying is, like, less of the evil stuff.
01:27:55.000 We could do a lot less of this.
01:27:57.000 It doesn't have to be, it's not a choice between what we have now and perfection.
01:28:00.000 It's that we should always have liberty as like the guiding principle and being very skeptical of what the government does.
01:28:07.000 That's what we need.
01:28:09.000 And all that comes down to is just scaling back.
01:28:12.000 I don't need more legislation to do that.
01:28:14.000 Again, if we're starting from that Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence, and letting that be, okay, this is a litmus test.
01:28:20.000 Is this, hey, if we're giving more and more government, more and more dollars, more and more power, more and more control, 80,000 more IRS agents, how does this get us back to more liberty?
01:28:31.000 It's a very basic question.
01:28:33.000 It's a very basic answer.
01:28:34.000 Nah, I'm not doing it.
01:28:36.000 Tell me where it says in this that we should be giving this over there.
01:28:39.000 If that's not the answer, then no, we're not doing it.
01:28:43.000 And I completely agree, and I would just add to that, that like the mission here to me really is that, look, I mean think about like how the massive propaganda campaign to push the COVID lockdowns.
01:28:55.000 The massive propaganda campaign to push the vaccines, where it's like, you have to hear about this constantly, completely oversold of like, you know, if you get this, you can't possibly get COVID and you can't spread it.
01:29:06.000 If you question this, you're an anti-vaxxer and all of this.
01:29:08.000 They use these massive propaganda campaigns because they know how important it is to have the population believing that they have legitimate authority over them and believing that they're doing the right thing.
01:29:20.000 So I think the mission here is to counter the propaganda.
01:29:24.000 And to wake people up.
01:29:25.000 Like you said, the mission isn't to take over the federal government and then, you know, wield power over all of the people and do it in the right way.
01:29:34.000 The mission here is to wake people up, to realize that what we ought to be striving for is to be very skeptical of all of these authoritarians who promise us that they're doing it for our own good.
01:29:46.000 If we had a society like that, we'd be in much better shape.
01:29:50.000 Did he convince you?
01:29:52.000 Oh, yeah.
01:29:53.000 I mean, I've been convinced since the day I met you, bro.
01:29:55.000 But I've got a lot of concern about the future of the Constitution, because I think going back to what we had 200 years ago might be a mistake that we should make a new global Constitution with American values.
01:30:07.000 A global Constitution?
01:30:09.000 Yeah.
01:30:10.000 The Manila principles is interesting for the internet.
01:30:12.000 It's like freedom of code as opposed to freedom of speech or in addition to because if you don't know what your software is doing behind the scenes when you're using it, you're being betrayed by your master.
01:30:20.000 You shouldn't have a master.
01:30:21.000 You should be the master of your code.
01:30:23.000 The code stuff is a really good point.
01:30:24.000 Like with Facebook, we don't know how we're being manipulated and we know Facebook experimented on people by showing them depressing Yeah, yeah.
01:30:32.000 I've read about that a little bit.
01:30:33.000 That is interesting.
01:30:34.000 So I think Ian's 100% right that we need to figure out, I mean, but this could be an amendment to our constitution.
01:30:39.000 We could write an amendment saying people have a right to know if algorithmic, you know, code is, what the code of
01:30:46.000 the systems do or are doing.
01:30:48.000 Why would they have to be global though?
01:30:50.000 I imagine that we're globalizing inevitably regardless.
01:30:54.000 We're creating the new world order right now.
01:30:56.000 The World Economic Forum really wants to be a part of it.
01:30:59.000 And if we fight internally and ignore it, they're going to do it without us, and we'll be there.
01:31:03.000 But if we are involved in the process, we'll craft it in our image.
01:31:06.000 That's part of the plan, I think.
01:31:07.000 Yeah, but see, now it smells like you want to take over the global government and use it for good.
01:31:13.000 Watch out for that.
01:31:14.000 I don't think they're going to let you at the table.
01:31:16.000 Look in the ring, bro.
01:31:18.000 The ring changes you.
01:31:19.000 Exactly.
01:31:20.000 I don't want a top-down, I want a decentralized organization of states across the world, dude.
01:31:25.000 And Mars.
01:31:26.000 New vlog idea.
01:31:27.000 Ian eventually does become president and it corrupts him.
01:31:32.000 But then, like, it ends with you falling into the lava.
01:31:35.000 You're fighting over your style.
01:31:39.000 No, no.
01:31:40.000 Lord of the Rings.
01:31:41.000 One small, two bald.
01:31:42.000 I think that in essence, and I'm saying this as a black dude, that my ancestors during
01:31:50.000 the time when these things were written, that objective stance of going, okay, Declaration
01:31:54.000 of Independence, fucking Thomas Jefferson's pen was fucking amazing, but he owned humans
01:32:00.000 at the same time that he wrote it.
01:32:02.000 So as me going like, yo, there's contradictions here, but what was written was dope.
01:32:06.000 I think that America, the founders wrote something that was really, really dope.
01:32:10.000 And I think that if we're going to be exporting shit, you know, all over the place, like, hey, this is what we believe in outside of us just being cool.
01:32:18.000 Let's export this concept of liberty and holding your so-called public servants.
01:32:23.000 And even in your country, if you want to emulate this, a few years ago in China, there was certain parts, dudes was waving fucking American flags like, yo, we want the second amendment here type shit.
01:32:33.000 I think that should be some of our chief export type shit.
01:32:36.000 And that doesn't mean it has to be globalized.
01:32:39.000 It just means like, yo, this is what we're doing over here.
01:32:42.000 We got guns over on this side because we want to keep our government a little bit more honest, you know what I'm saying, and exporting that.
01:32:48.000 And I don't know if every country is going to emulate that, but I think that will be one of our dope exports to the rest of the world.
01:32:54.000 And even if you look at Martin Luther King and even Malcolm X, I mean, how did they make such strides?
01:33:01.000 Is that they beat America over the head with their own constitution?
01:33:05.000 They said, well, look, you said it right here in your own document that you're not allowed to do this to me.
01:33:11.000 So like it was a powerful example, even if like the founders were hypocrites, particularly on that issue on the issue of slavery and race relations in general.
01:33:20.000 But just think about it like this.
01:33:21.000 I mean, imagine if we were just a free country.
01:33:24.000 And we were much more prosperous and happy and stable than we are now because we have this giant monstrosity of a state.
01:33:31.000 Imagine the power we could have simply just lecturing and even ridiculing the rest of the world.
01:33:36.000 And saying to them, imagine the power we could have on the Chinese people by going, look at you guys.
01:33:41.000 You're impoverished and we're rich because we believe in liberty.
01:33:45.000 Your communist party is not providing anything to you.
01:33:48.000 You should switch those guys up.
01:33:49.000 Way more effective than if we were the murderers of the world saying we see you as a threat.
01:33:55.000 Yeah.
01:33:55.000 We're gonna go to Super Chats.
01:33:56.000 If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, become a member at TimCast.com, and today we're shouting out Tom McDonald.
01:34:05.000 He actually texted me.
01:34:06.000 He said, tell the world what up.
01:34:07.000 He's agreeing he will also wear a suit if he hits the hot one.
01:34:10.000 I believe, Lydia, I believe we said dress, no?
01:34:12.000 Was it suit?
01:34:13.000 I can't remember the beginning.
01:34:14.000 I can't remember the beginning.
01:34:15.000 You're sure?
01:34:16.000 Suit and tie.
01:34:17.000 Maybe I'm misremembering.
01:34:18.000 Agreed.
01:34:19.000 But, uh, yes, so shout out guys.
01:34:24.000 Check out his new song, Riot.
01:34:25.000 It's currently number two trending on YouTube.
01:34:27.000 It was four when we started, number two now.
01:34:29.000 I want you to play this after the show.
01:34:30.000 I want you to play the song for me.
01:34:31.000 It's not a super political song, you know?
01:34:33.000 No, I just want to hear the song.
01:34:34.000 Like, I like music.
01:34:35.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:34:36.000 Right on.
01:34:37.000 We have this tweet from Dylan Bellew.
01:34:39.000 What is this?
01:34:40.000 It said, Smith Ture 2024.
01:34:41.000 Oh, yeah.
01:34:43.000 What do they mean?
01:34:43.000 What would we be doing in 2024?
01:34:44.000 Maybe you guys are going to start a small business together?
01:34:47.000 Do you want to do something in 2024 together?
01:34:49.000 Do we do LLC or do we do S-Corp?
01:34:55.000 I've got to talk to my tax guy because it depends on how the revenue comes in, I think.
01:35:01.000 I think for a small business, you guys go LLC and maybe you build model ships.
01:35:06.000 Well, I'll tell you this, how about this, for people who want to see, if let's say you wanted to see, hypothetically, if you wanted to see me and Maj maybe run like let's say a campaign of some sort in 2024, this is what I need.
01:35:20.000 I need to see everybody join the Libertarian Party.
01:35:23.000 LP.org slash join.
01:35:25.000 Sign up right now.
01:35:26.000 If you guys get in there, if we raise, this is what I say, 20,000 members, if I get 20,000 members into the LP, new members, Then I will start a business with Maj in 2024.
01:35:41.000 It'll be a liberty-oriented business.
01:35:42.000 So I want to give a shout out to Eric Miller.
01:35:44.000 He said, Tim, if Tom hits number one, you have to wear a suit on stream.
01:35:46.000 And that's where the idea basically came from.
01:35:48.000 So shout out, Eric.
01:35:49.000 That was your idea.
01:35:50.000 I really do appreciate it.
01:35:51.000 And I thought it was a really good idea.
01:35:52.000 And I'm like, we'll actually film going to get tailored.
01:35:55.000 Me and Ian will go.
01:35:56.000 I think that's going to be hilarious.
01:35:59.000 By the way, I'd also say for people who even like, I understand the argument that you're making and even people who are like, listen, if it comes down to Trump, Biden, I got to support Trump.
01:36:08.000 If you just think that what we're saying here should be like in the conversation.
01:36:14.000 That you think like, okay, even if that's the case, you need someone kind of pushing the Republicans to be a little bit better on some of these issues.
01:36:14.000 Right.
01:36:14.000 You know what I mean?
01:36:22.000 Come join the Libertarian Party and support what we're doing.
01:36:25.000 And at what point are you just not going to just be saying, well, it'll never be another third, like the Republican Party was a third party, like at a certain point.
01:36:33.000 Like at what point are you just going to be like, oh, it'll never happen.
01:36:33.000 That is true.
01:36:37.000 As you said, we live in revolutionary times.
01:36:39.000 The MAGA Party is.
01:36:39.000 Right.
01:36:41.000 It essentially is a third party, right?
01:36:43.000 Like, Donald Trump was a third party candidate within one of the two parties, right?
01:36:46.000 And then he did it.
01:36:47.000 And Bernie, too, was a third party and just didn't do it.
01:36:50.000 All right.
01:36:50.000 Christina says, my favorite podcaster.
01:36:52.000 Shouting out my favorite rapper is so cool.
01:36:54.000 Can't wait to see when Tom finally comes on the show.
01:36:56.000 Love y'all and happy Friday.
01:36:58.000 So this all happened because, you know, we put out a song.
01:37:01.000 We were, I was shouting it out saying we want to invade the cultural spaces.
01:37:04.000 And then I was just like, I don't know Tom very well.
01:37:07.000 I, you know, maybe I've talked to him one time before this, but I was just like, he's a guy who puts out music.
01:37:11.000 You guys have probably heard his stuff.
01:37:12.000 I'd imagine, right?
01:37:13.000 Have you?
01:37:14.000 I'm not sure.
01:37:14.000 I might have.
01:37:16.000 It's rap.
01:37:16.000 A lot of it's like, I don't know how to describe it.
01:37:19.000 Scrap rap.
01:37:20.000 But the lyrics are just so good.
01:37:22.000 It addresses political and cultural issues.
01:37:24.000 His voice is like a knife.
01:37:25.000 It's cool.
01:37:26.000 But the lyrics are really good.
01:37:28.000 And so I was just like, if you don't want to buy my song because you don't like it, buy his music.
01:37:31.000 Get him to number one.
01:37:32.000 We just need to invade these cultural spaces.
01:37:35.000 And so then when I heard he was putting out a song, I was like, I want to see Tom hit the Billboard charts.
01:37:39.000 I'm going to shout it out.
01:37:40.000 No, I think that's awesome.
01:37:42.000 By the way, shout out to Eric July.
01:37:43.000 I think he's doing that with like in the comic world and the Ripperverse thing.
01:37:46.000 And his music and stuff too.
01:37:48.000 I think all that stuff is really like so important.
01:37:51.000 And talented, actually like really talented guys who are doing it.
01:37:54.000 Like actually good, not just like I'm in alignment with your politics.
01:37:59.000 Get it?
01:38:00.000 It's basically just if you want to win a culture war, you gotta make culture.
01:38:04.000 To the point, the liberty movement isn't just, because I know we spoke a lot about parties, but when you start changing the mind of people, no one that's listening to this conversation tonight is going to be like, nah, I totally disagree with the vast majority of what they're talking about.
01:38:19.000 They're gonna be like, nah, you all have conversations, you're like, there's so many fucking rhinos.
01:38:24.000 Rhinos are everywhere, rhinos, rhinos, rhinos.
01:38:26.000 Okay, cool, either you're gonna push them to go in this direction, or you're gonna go, let me try this libertarian thing.
01:38:31.000 Even if it's not the party, I do think that you should join, but at the same time, the overall philosophy and the ideology is gonna lean us in the direction of the Bill of Rights and this overall liberty thing.
01:38:43.000 Yeah, even if you're a Republican, or God forbid, a Democrat, I still push them to be a little bit better.
01:38:49.000 Like that's what we all gotta do.
01:38:49.000 Right.
01:38:51.000 Right.
01:38:53.000 All right.
01:38:53.000 Kerry Green says, love that shirt.
01:38:55.000 Make criminals afraid again.
01:38:57.000 I need one.
01:38:57.000 Shut up and take my money.
01:38:59.000 Can people buy that?
01:39:00.000 Yeah, they can go to blackgunsmattershop.com.
01:39:02.000 It's on a website.
01:39:03.000 Right on.
01:39:04.000 Which Black Guns Matter, if you're not familiar, go check them out.
01:39:04.000 I'll go grab it.
01:39:07.000 They are real.
01:39:07.000 They do incredible stuff.
01:39:09.000 It's such a great thing.
01:39:12.000 Well, you know why it's great?
01:39:12.000 Yeah.
01:39:13.000 Because it just attacks the left from the left.
01:39:17.000 Like it makes them feel insecure about their own thing.
01:39:17.000 Right.
01:39:20.000 And then they go like, well, we're the ones who are supposed to care about that.
01:39:25.000 But we have a monopoly on being the ones who care about black people.
01:39:27.000 Yeah, it's brilliant.
01:39:28.000 It's the funniest thing ever.
01:39:29.000 It's like telling somebody like, yo, you know, as the black dude, you have the means and
01:39:34.000 the right to defend your life from bad people.
01:39:37.000 And it's like, well, even if you think that's all police, okay, if you believe that, all
01:39:43.000 There was a... I'm sorry, I don't want to... No, no.
01:39:45.000 Even if you think it's all police.
01:39:46.000 You think it's all police and then you're like, yeah, they're killing us.
01:39:49.000 It's like, well, you can defend your life.
01:39:51.000 It's like, well, no, guns are bad.
01:39:54.000 Nah, no, they're not, bro.
01:39:55.000 You have the human right and the Bill of Rights.
01:39:58.000 to defend your life.
01:39:59.000 There was a story about some dude who got shot by the cops or whatever.
01:40:03.000 And then, I can't remember who it was, but he was like white or something.
01:40:05.000 And then I posted something about how it was ridiculous what this cop did, I can't remember.
01:40:09.000 And then some lefty responded with, Tim is such a racist, he only cares when white people get
01:40:15.000 shot, yet he wouldn't want gun rights for black people.
01:40:17.000 And then I'm just like, what in the...
01:40:20.000 People are insane, dude.
01:40:21.000 I responded, I was like, bro, I want every single Black Panther armed to the teeth with multiple weapons marching down the street right now.
01:40:28.000 And then he responded, based.
01:40:30.000 Well, dude, here we go.
01:40:31.000 It's so funny.
01:40:32.000 People are so binary.
01:40:33.000 Like they think if you have one take, then you have to have like the other.
01:40:37.000 Well, so I remember because I was really harsh on all through 2020 on Black Lives Matter and the riots and all of that and being like, this is insane.
01:40:46.000 First off, just because it's awful that you're like destroying businesses and, you know, killing people and assaulting people and all of this.
01:40:51.000 And also because you're destroying the credibility for the movement of like holding cops accountable.
01:40:56.000 Right.
01:40:56.000 And then when what's his name?
01:40:59.000 Chauvin got convicted.
01:41:00.000 I tweeted something and I was like, yeah, good.
01:41:03.000 He absolutely deserved to get convicted.
01:41:04.000 and they're like, oh Dave, you're totally backing down on all of your views.
01:41:08.000 And you're like, wait a minute.
01:41:09.000 So you think just because I was against rioting and destruction of property,
01:41:13.000 that I think the guy who kneeled on the dude's neck in huffs on the ground shouldn't go to jail?
01:41:18.000 Like, no, dude, that guy would lock up some guy for a gun possession charge
01:41:23.000 and throw him in a cage for 20 years and never lose sleep.
01:41:26.000 You can go rot in prison.
01:41:28.000 Like I could care less.
01:41:29.000 My favorite was when you tweeted something about the left is not gonna handle losing very well.
01:41:34.000 And then someone responded with, here's how your side handles losing.
01:41:37.000 You know who it was?
01:41:38.000 Who was it?
01:41:39.000 It was Bette Midler.
01:41:40.000 She said, no.
01:41:41.000 Bette Midler.
01:41:42.000 It's like, like, she knows who she's talking to.
01:41:44.000 I got Bette Midler talking trash to me on Twitter.
01:41:49.000 It's such a weird world we live in.
01:41:53.000 My accountant texted me and he goes, is Bette Midler talking shit about you on Twitter?
01:42:01.000 Yes, yes he is.
01:42:02.000 Now, do we have those tax returns in?
01:42:05.000 You should do.
01:42:06.000 You should have responded with, OMG, Bette Midler, I'm such a big fan, Hocus Pocus, classic childhood memories.
01:42:14.000 I swear to God, my actual response is not far off from that.
01:42:16.000 I went, I just made my wife and my daughter and son listen to Wind Beneath Our Wings.
01:42:22.000 We all danced, which I actually did.
01:42:24.000 We played it in the house and we all danced.
01:42:26.000 All right.
01:42:26.000 Solid tune.
01:42:27.000 Looks like we got some big fans.
01:42:27.000 Yeah, it is.
01:42:28.000 Andrew Brasoul says, It's not just that Dave doesn't lie to your face, like the talking heads in the media.
01:42:35.000 What makes Dave so great is that he doesn't lie to himself.
01:42:37.000 I respect it.
01:42:38.000 Oh, well, thank you.
01:42:39.000 That's nice to say.
01:42:40.000 I do occasionally, you know.
01:42:42.000 I'm telling myself, well I'm trying to pump myself up.
01:42:44.000 It's just manifestation.
01:42:45.000 BB says, I posted a meme today making fun of DC for declaring a state of emergency over the migrant buses.
01:42:50.000 It was the James Franco first time meme.
01:42:53.000 FB claimed it was promoting self-harm, removed it, and restricted access.
01:42:58.000 See?
01:42:58.000 That is pretty hilarious.
01:43:00.000 That was, that was a pretty great like real life troll sending the immigrants into DC.
01:43:05.000 I gotta say, I enjoy it.
01:43:07.000 Harold Wiley says, just purchased Tom McDonald's song.
01:43:09.000 If Brett has to bleach his hair, Tim can wear a suit.
01:43:12.000 So, Pop Culture Crisis, which is one of the shows we have here at Timcast, hosted by Brett and Mary.
01:43:18.000 They had a bit that, I don't know how it came up, but that if they hit 15 crisis parties, Brett would bleach his hair.
01:43:24.000 And a crisis party is every hundred dollars in Super Chats, these lights go off.
01:43:28.000 So every time there's a Super Chat, money guns shoot money at everybody.
01:43:32.000 And then once $100 is reached, there's a party where the lights go off, and it plays a noise, and then the money guns go crazy.
01:43:39.000 And so they said if they get 15 of those in one show, Breast of Bleach is here, they got 26.
01:43:42.000 That means that's $2,600 in Super Chat.
01:43:46.000 So now my brother went out to pick up pizzas, and then he came back and like, here's the sauce, and in the bag is bleach, is air dye.
01:43:53.000 So I agreed.
01:43:55.000 If Tom McDonald, hey look, Hot 100 number one is not an easy feat.
01:44:00.000 No, not at all.
01:44:00.000 No.
01:44:01.000 I think you need to sell like a hundred or more thousand singles.
01:44:05.000 He's independent?
01:44:06.000 Yep.
01:44:07.000 So not only that, but the problem is it's kind of rigged because they're probably going to pull some BS where they're like, well, you know, that one doesn't count.
01:44:14.000 They want to see you in a suit though.
01:44:16.000 You're good.
01:44:16.000 No, he means like billboard.
01:44:18.000 You mean like Billboard?
01:44:20.000 Yeah, so one of the things that happened to Tom is he sold more albums than anybody else, and they told him his numbers didn't count and didn't put him on the list or something.
01:44:20.000 Yeah, absolutely.
01:44:27.000 Because of what?
01:44:29.000 How did they play that?
01:44:31.000 So, you have to watch, he did two videos talking about how it went down, and so I don't know the exact nuance of it, but they were saying things like, what's your UPC code?
01:44:39.000 We don't believe these numbers, so we're not going to accept them, but it's complicated.
01:44:42.000 Basically, people traditionally would report like, hey, here are the total sales we had.
01:44:47.000 Yeah, SoundScan.
01:44:48.000 yeah yeah and then apparently they didn't buy it and so there's weird issues because like based on how many views he gets he's number two trending on youtube right now this song should be billboard hot 100 right but for some reason like let's see so it's the song came out today Uh, not next week, but the following Tuesday is when they'll release the chart for this reporting period.
01:45:10.000 Yeah.
01:45:10.000 And we'll, you know, everybody's got to buy his song, but I'm going to be shouting out Tom all week because I just want to, I want to force these people that want to, you're going to love this.
01:45:21.000 So we have a communications company.
01:45:22.000 They do PR stuff for us and we have, we have a song, we put it out.
01:45:27.000 One of the responses to it was like, Hey, Tim Pool has released a song like it's available here.
01:45:32.000 It's the first release in the new program, Tim Kess Records.
01:45:35.000 The response was the COVID-19 vaccine is safe and effective and is an effective treatment for reducing the severity of COVID.
01:45:41.000 And that's all they said.
01:45:42.000 And that was it.
01:45:43.000 And it was just like.
01:45:45.000 Are they saying they're not gonna?
01:45:46.000 Why are they emailing us that?
01:45:46.000 I don't know.
01:45:49.000 But that's how crazy it is.
01:45:51.000 It's a weird cult.
01:45:52.000 And then, you know, Tom was like, is your song about the vaccine?
01:45:55.000 And I was like, bro, it's a love and pain song.
01:45:58.000 It's just like generic rock music.
01:46:00.000 And that's the point.
01:46:02.000 Now, that's the overcorrection that the general public in the middle sees and goes, nah, that's bullshit.
01:46:07.000 Even if they disagree with you, the vast majority of people will go, nah, but that's kind of fucked up.
01:46:12.000 Well, do you look, you look at the numbers of, um, I forget the exact numbers, but it's, um, of who, of the, the adult percentage of Americans who were, uh, double vaccinated with the first round, I think it was 70 something percent.
01:46:25.000 And then who got their boosters was half that.
01:46:28.000 So you see, there's a whole lot of people, even of the people who like went along with it at the beginning, who are starting to kind of see, they're like, Nah, I'm not gonna keep doing this.
01:46:39.000 Yo, you can see it at the airport!
01:46:40.000 At the airport, when it was everybody had to, and I kept getting kicked out of airports and airplanes, right?
01:46:46.000 That's why we bought the RV, because that was like... They wouldn't let you fly without the mask.
01:46:50.000 We went to the airport and they're like, yeah, you can't get on our airline.
01:46:53.000 But this is the crazy thing.
01:46:55.000 But now you see those people, now that there's no mandate... It's like 80%, 90% not wearing the mask.
01:47:00.000 Nobody's wearing it.
01:47:01.000 But look, this is the crazy thing.
01:47:03.000 They email me that.
01:47:06.000 So I was talking to Tom earlier, not that long ago actually, a few hours ago, and I was like, not only is the song not about any of this, but my position the entire time on vaccines was, it's good that Trump got it out, it's good that Biden sped up the timeline for it, and it's up to you to talk to your doctor to figure out what makes sense for you and your health conditions.
01:47:25.000 That's been my position the entire time.
01:47:27.000 Just go talk to your doctor.
01:47:28.000 Oh yeah, they don't care.
01:47:29.000 It doesn't matter.
01:47:30.000 But telling people to talk to their doctor about what's right for them is considered anti-vax.
01:47:34.000 No, you did two things.
01:47:35.000 You fucked up two out of three.
01:47:38.000 One, you said, talk to your doctor.
01:47:40.000 Get an actual medical professional's perspective.
01:47:43.000 You didn't just run with, fuck you if you don't take this.
01:47:46.000 That was strike one.
01:47:47.000 Doesn't matter.
01:47:48.000 And your second strike was, you said, and I disagree with it, when you said, Trump got it out fast.
01:47:53.000 You were giving Trump some credit for some shit that I don't even, I'm like, yo, he could've just been like, yo, whatever.
01:47:59.000 Point being is, two out of three, fuck you, and you're emailing us about your song, COVID vaccines are fucking safe and effective, and don't you dare question the fucking narrative.
01:48:10.000 Do you think you're fucking Tim Pool or some shit?
01:48:11.000 You have to be 100% standing behind them or on your knees for them.
01:48:18.000 Any kind of like, I see what you're saying, you know, no, no, no, you don't see what I'm saying.
01:48:21.000 Tell me I'm right or else.
01:48:23.000 That was so much of what their problem with Trump was.
01:48:26.000 Is that even when he continued the wars and continued the empire, he didn't tell everyone that he believed in it.
01:48:33.000 Like he'd always kind of be like, but I don't really believe in it.
01:48:37.000 Like I don't really think we should be doing this.
01:48:39.000 We got Carnal says, shout out to the TimCast crew, Dave Smith and Big Daddy Touré.
01:48:39.000 Let's read some more.
01:48:44.000 Maj, happy to hear that you got your RV back.
01:48:46.000 Big ups to you, the work you do, and your solutionaries.
01:48:49.000 Good people are looking out for you.
01:48:51.000 Let's hit that GoFundMe goal.
01:48:52.000 Did y'all hear about that?
01:48:53.000 So my RV got stole yesterday.
01:48:53.000 No.
01:48:56.000 Oh no.
01:48:57.000 Wait, really?
01:48:57.000 Yeah.
01:48:58.000 Holy crap.
01:48:58.000 They picked the wrong person to steal an RV from.
01:49:00.000 What kind of RV is it?
01:49:02.000 Which class?
01:49:03.000 Class A. Nice.
01:49:05.000 Thor Challenger.
01:49:07.000 Beautiful.
01:49:08.000 Flash, because this is when I kept getting kicked off of planes.
01:49:11.000 We got the RV.
01:49:12.000 We're going to do the classes all over the country.
01:49:14.000 We're not shutting down.
01:49:15.000 We're going everywhere, da, da, da, da.
01:49:17.000 Still doing it.
01:49:18.000 So it's gearing up for the wintertime.
01:49:19.000 So we're like, all right, since we're getting back on planes, because people aren't afraid anymore, we're going to use the RV when we're not doing classes regionally.
01:49:28.000 If you're homeless, if you need a place, if you're arguing, you and your girl going through it, you need a hot meal.
01:49:34.000 It went cold in Philly.
01:49:36.000 We're gearing up for that.
01:49:38.000 Go check on the RV.
01:49:41.000 It's gone.
01:49:43.000 Like, gone.
01:49:43.000 And I'm like, what the fuck?
01:49:45.000 And I'm thinking, okay, the city told it.
01:49:47.000 And so I start chasing this process of, you know, the city's like, yo, we don't have it, but they could have it and not have put your tags in or whatever.
01:49:55.000 So I'm like, yo, I think somebody stole it.
01:49:58.000 So I go to the precinct and they're like, yo, if someone said it was abandoned, which I don't know why they would, it's a $200,000 RV.
01:50:07.000 We didn't pay $200,000 for it, but we bought it used.
01:50:10.000 But if someone says it's abandoned, the police will tow it, not the parking authority for tickets.
01:50:19.000 So he says, well, if it's not in their system, come back tomorrow.
01:50:23.000 We'll find out.
01:50:24.000 Because if you report it stolen now, if we don't know if it's community people took it, it's going to be harder to get it out.
01:50:31.000 Do that.
01:50:31.000 I do a live saying, man, these fucking leeches, I hate y'all, y'all steal my, you know, I'll go on live at seven o'clock and I'll talk about it.
01:50:39.000 I'm on the live talking about this RV and a dude's trying to tap into the live and he's like, dude, I think I'm looking at your RV right now.
01:50:47.000 Really?
01:50:48.000 No bullshit.
01:50:49.000 And I'm like, I'm thinking, all right, he might be a troll.
01:50:52.000 And a couple of other people's like, yo, man, man is in your live right now is saying he's DMing you his number.
01:50:58.000 He thinks he he's found your fucking RV.
01:51:01.000 So I go into live with him.
01:51:03.000 And sure enough, he's like, yo, it's around the corner from my shop.
01:51:06.000 He's walking up there.
01:51:07.000 They busted the back windows.
01:51:09.000 The slides were out.
01:51:11.000 There was a spare key in there, they drove it to a whole nother part of town, they fucked up the entire side of it, smashed the window, rifled through the hole inside, but they never closed the side, the slides.
01:51:26.000 They were driving with the sides out?
01:51:27.000 They were driving with the sides out and just dumped it.
01:51:29.000 And so this dude, he DM'd me his number and his address and I drove up there.
01:51:36.000 So literally, one of the solutionaries on the live found my RV.
01:51:41.000 Solutionaries are better than cops.
01:51:43.000 There you go.
01:51:44.000 Yo, legit.
01:51:45.000 And so, um, it's going to be like, I mean, we got insurance, but it's going to be like.
01:51:50.000 Insurance, like, everybody's like, you've got insurance, so it's cool.
01:51:54.000 I'm like, nah, but it's not as cool.
01:51:55.000 A lot of people go like, oh, you have insurance, no problem.
01:51:57.000 You have house insurance?
01:51:58.000 Just light your house on fire right now, right?
01:51:59.000 And see if they're going to come back with the three million.
01:52:01.000 That wouldn't inconvenience you at all, right?
01:52:03.000 Right.
01:52:04.000 We'll grab this one.
01:52:04.000 We got Boris Kovfefevich says, the problem with the Libertarian Party is the Ross Perot problem.
01:52:10.000 They will be used and sponsored by the left to destroy the right via division.
01:52:14.000 Been there, seen that, never again.
01:52:16.000 Yeah, sorry dude, but it's like now we got a whole new group of people who are a lot more savvy than that and that's what I was telling you about before, where we're going to be like, what we're going to be doing is pulling the right to be better on the issues they're supposed to be good on and destroying the neocon rhino, whatever you want to call them.
01:52:34.000 Did you see the tweet from the guy who said, Liz Cheney should run as a libertarian to take votes from Trump?
01:52:41.000 Liz Cheney, if you're listening, please, please, I'm not even kidding, I'm on my knees begging you, enter my party and try, try to take this from me, Liz Cheney.
01:52:53.000 Please, get up on stage in front of my people and see what happens to you.
01:52:58.000 See what happens when you have to debate me, Liz Cheney.
01:53:01.000 Somebody tweeted that in response to some tweet about Liz Cheney losing, and then they were like, she should run as a libertarian, take those votes from Trump.
01:53:07.000 And I was like, she's the antithesis of the libertarian party.
01:53:11.000 Listen, you have no idea what's up.
01:53:13.000 And by the way, look, Ross Perot did cost the Republican the election, I guess you could argue.
01:53:19.000 But who did he cost?
01:53:21.000 George Herbert Walker Bush?
01:53:23.000 That's who you're trying to preserve?
01:53:25.000 Right.
01:53:25.000 Like that would have been any better and our country would be in any better shape?
01:53:29.000 No, look, you know who the Libertarians won't be able to steal the election from?
01:53:33.000 A Republican who's good on liberty.
01:53:35.000 Right.
01:53:35.000 So, get better on liberty.
01:53:37.000 That's true.
01:53:38.000 And then you'll be insulated against us.
01:53:39.000 Whoa.
01:53:40.000 This is a big one.
01:53:41.000 I need to stop watching YouTube says, 7-Eleven was a part-time job.
01:53:47.000 That's a great one.
01:53:49.000 Oh man, that's really good.
01:53:51.000 That's a good one.
01:53:52.000 Troy Dunham says, Dave, ever since you asked what would my presidential campaign slogan be on POTP, your comment section posts, quote, we need to roll back the state.
01:54:03.000 What do you think would look great on hats and t-shirts?
01:54:07.000 I'll consider it.
01:54:08.000 We need to roll back the state.
01:54:11.000 Seth Houser says ranked choice voting will always give Democrats the win.
01:54:15.000 How does that make sense?
01:54:16.000 Wait, I don't get how he says that.
01:54:18.000 Yeah, so here's what happens.
01:54:20.000 I'd have to hear that explained to me.
01:54:22.000 In Alaska, they have ranked choice.
01:54:23.000 Sarah Palin runs.
01:54:24.000 There's a Republican and a Democrat.
01:54:26.000 Ranked choice happens.
01:54:27.000 60% of the vote was Republican, but the Democrat won the special election.
01:54:31.000 Oh, okay.
01:54:32.000 But that just as easily could go the other way now.
01:54:36.000 Yes.
01:54:37.000 I think the issue, though, is the risk is that Republicans are less likely to understand a new system was put in place.
01:54:42.000 Democrats are great at organizing.
01:54:45.000 So they're going to make sure all of their voters know to vote.
01:54:47.000 You got to vote.
01:54:48.000 First choice, second choice, third choice.
01:54:50.000 A lot of Republicans probably just went one and done.
01:54:53.000 And then when their person didn't win, they got nuked and the Democrat ended up winning.
01:54:58.000 Okay, so that is an interesting argument.
01:55:00.000 I think there's no question that Democrats, by the nature of being Democrats, are always going to be more, you know, kind of aware of the democratic process.
01:55:10.000 So, there is an interesting argument to that.
01:55:12.000 I've never really considered that before.
01:55:13.000 So, fair.
01:55:13.000 I'll have to think about that.
01:55:15.000 Chaser90EK says, this week my family bar closed.
01:55:18.000 It opened in 1926 and we thought we'd celebrate 100 years, but sadly McGeehans in Northeast Philly couldn't survive the COVID policies and spike in crime.
01:55:26.000 Thanks Mayor Kenny and DA Krasner.
01:55:29.000 Ah man, that breaks my heart to hear.
01:55:31.000 Yeah, it's horrible.
01:55:32.000 And I'll tell you, I know, like, I'm from New York City, born and raised, and there are spots that I know, you know, like a lot of, a huge percentage of businesses closed and didn't make it through the lockdowns, and I know that these ones, there's like a few that just, like, there was this Chinese restaurant that was like a family-owned Chinese restaurant for, I think, they must have been at least 20 or 30 years old, and they were on the corner of 78th and Broadway, Which is across from Stand-Up New York Comedy Club, which is where I started doing stand-up comedy.
01:56:03.000 And they were like the spot that I used to go to, like all the comics used to go to after the comedy shows.
01:56:08.000 And then I lived around the corner from them for years.
01:56:11.000 And we used to go there all the time.
01:56:13.000 And they closed during that.
01:56:14.000 And there's just one that I'm bringing up, but it's just... Yeah, it's heartbreaking, man.
01:56:17.000 That whole family business just destroyed over these insane...
01:56:20.000 I think it's important for people to remember this though.
01:56:23.000 Like, because this is, okay, it may not be COVID, right?
01:56:27.000 The next go around.
01:56:28.000 It may be climate change, whatever it is, right?
01:56:32.000 I think it's important for people to remember that and go, no, fuck you.
01:56:35.000 Because we gave you the two weeks to fucking slow the spread and it turned into fucking our business, a hundred year damn near business, not being here anymore.
01:56:43.000 You know what I mean?
01:56:44.000 So I think that part's very important.
01:56:46.000 Infinite Will says, if the Libertarian Party runs on abolishing the IRS, I'll vote for you.
01:56:50.000 That would be the best way of scaling back the federal government anyway.
01:56:54.000 Um, I mean, we- Day one.
01:56:57.000 Yes, abolish the IRS.
01:56:58.000 It's an executive order, right?
01:57:00.000 What created the IRS?
01:57:01.000 Was it legislation?
01:57:03.000 Yeah, well, the income tax was through a constitutional amendment, but I'd have to think about the actual, the Internal Revenues Service.
01:57:13.000 The question is, what authority does the president have and what can they do?
01:57:16.000 Well, but look, I mean, I don't even think that's really the important question because it's not as if, like, look, if you're going down the hypothetical in your mind where the Libertarian candidate, whoever that may be, wins the presidency, then the only thing that's happened in that scenario is not that the Libertarian candidate won the presidency.
01:57:34.000 There's been a major shift in the way tens of millions of Americans are thinking about this.
01:57:39.000 And so your guess is that It's not just that one thing that happened, but so you'd need this mass movement being opposed to it.
01:57:46.000 But absolutely, I mean, the IRS is just a disgusting—like, you know, all the stuff you talk about with China, like your worst fear of China—let's say we lived in a free society, and your worst fear of China invading and taking over the country would be that they would install the Internal Revenue Service, right?
01:58:03.000 Like, that'd be your worst nightmare, that they'd come in and institute this organization which dictates that it's a crime to work.
01:58:12.000 It's a crime to produce.
01:58:14.000 And the punishment will be a fee, and you'll have no Fifth Amendment protection.
01:58:18.000 You have to incriminate yourself, and we'll throw you in jail if you don't pay your fee.
01:58:22.000 I got a better idea.
01:58:23.000 I got a better idea.
01:58:24.000 Abolish the IRS tomorrow!
01:58:25.000 The first thing is that you should do is that all of all of these IRS field agents they got to talk like this and they got to show up with leather jackets and crowbars and they have to they have to insist that they're asking for protection money.
01:58:38.000 That is not bad.
01:58:38.000 Maybe help people understand kind of what's going down right now.
01:58:42.000 The state is the mafia masquerading as a human rights organization.
01:58:47.000 It looks like it was Abe Lincoln in 1862.
01:58:49.000 He spun up the Commission for Internal Revenue.
01:58:53.000 Well, that was the first income tax.
01:58:55.000 But then it went away after the Civil War.
01:58:58.000 That's right.
01:58:59.000 So Lincoln instituted an income tax during the Civil War, and then it went away.
01:59:04.000 And then it was Woodrow Wilson in 1914, I want to say, when it came back.
01:59:11.000 Oh, it was 1894.
01:59:12.000 The Supreme Court declared the income tax of 1894 unconstitutional.
01:59:15.000 Wow.
01:59:16.000 And then, am I right?
01:59:18.000 1914, I believe, is when it came back.
01:59:19.000 Dick.
01:59:20.000 Horrible.
01:59:21.000 Would you agree?
01:59:22.000 Woodrow Wilson?
01:59:23.000 Dick?
01:59:24.000 Woodrow Wilson is the worst president in the history of the United States.
01:59:28.000 Wow.
01:59:29.000 Even worse than Joe Biden?
01:59:30.000 Yes.
01:59:31.000 Yes.
01:59:31.000 Far worse.
01:59:32.000 Far worse.
01:59:33.000 I mean, as of so far, I mean, Joe Biden's very bad, but Woodrow Wilson gave us the Federal Reserve, the IRS, and World War I, which, as I said before, led to the rise of the Nazis and the Commies.
01:59:43.000 He ruined everything.
01:59:44.000 Really, the Treaty of Versailles really did make the Nazi party... Oh, no question, yeah.
01:59:49.000 And also, the mix of the Treaty of Versailles and the Federal Reserve, which created the boom and then the bust, leading to the Great Depression, which is what called in all the German loans and destroyed the German economy.
01:59:58.000 I mean, it was all... Woodrow Wilson ruined the 20th century.
02:00:02.000 All right, we'll grab just one more here, or maybe one or two more.
02:00:05.000 Generally Irritable says, just hosted an event on public safety and saw a Black Guns Matter shirt.
02:00:10.000 Dave, help a fellow libertarian on the campaign trail.
02:00:16.000 Vermont candidate.
02:00:17.000 Reddickforcongress.com.
02:00:18.000 Tell James Lindsay I said hi.
02:00:20.000 James Lindsay.
02:00:22.000 I don't know James Lindsay.
02:00:23.000 We will.
02:00:24.000 I'll tell him you said hi.
02:00:25.000 I've messaged with him a few times on Twitter when he was on there.
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02:00:52.000 Of course, we're going to be putting out new music in the next couple weeks, like we did with the last song.
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02:01:05.000 You want to shout anything out, Maj?
02:01:08.000 Be kind to each other.
02:01:09.000 Go.
02:01:10.000 Look into the Libertarian Party.
02:01:12.000 You should really, really, really look into it.
02:01:14.000 Especially if you live in any urban city in America, you absolutely should be looking into it.
02:01:20.000 The work, man.
02:01:20.000 Support the classes.
02:01:22.000 You know, giftsandgo.com forward slash solutionary.
02:01:25.000 Help us, like, repair this damn RV, man.
02:01:27.000 And, like, put these classes together.
02:01:29.000 The center that we have in Philadelphia is really, in essence, basically it's a big classroom space.
02:01:35.000 We're doing classes on like trades, skill, I mean obviously we're not doing welding in the building, but you know, like trades and stuff like that.
02:01:42.000 Conflict resolution, firearms training, and stuff like that.
02:01:45.000 And all of the classes are completely free to all based on voluntary donations.
02:01:50.000 So, give10go.com forward slash solutionary.
02:01:53.000 Hell yeah.
02:01:53.000 Well, thank you guys so much for having me, and thanks for having both me and Maja on this one.
02:01:57.000 I was hyped to do this with both of us.
02:02:01.000 ComicDaveSmith.com is a website, at ComicDaveSmith on Twitter.
02:02:05.000 Yeah, that's all.
02:02:06.000 Michael Malice for Press Secretary.
02:02:07.000 We're there for that.
02:02:09.000 It's happening now.
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