Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - June 23, 2022


Timcast IRL - FBI Raids Trump Official Over 2020 Support, DOJ Seizes GOP Phone Data w-Rep Troy Nehls


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 7 minutes

Words per Minute

207.07709

Word Count

26,461

Sentence Count

2,132

Misogynist Sentences

19

Hate Speech Sentences

19


Summary

In this episode, we discuss the latest in the ongoing saga of the DOJ targeting Trump supporters and their political opponents. We are joined by Rep. Troy Nails (R-Texas) and Seamus Goglin (D-GA) to discuss all of this and more.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 you you
00:01:29.000 of Donald Trump's claims in the 2020 election and And man, it just kind of gets crazier and scarier every day.
00:01:37.000 The FBI, the DOJ, they've been issuing more subpoenas.
00:01:39.000 They've been going after Republicans who supported Trump.
00:01:42.000 They've even seized cell phone data from I believe somebody out of the GOP chair out of Nevada.
00:01:48.000 Basically, if you were concerned about 2020 and you sided with Trump, looks like the weight of the DOJ is coming after you.
00:01:57.000 And to me, this seems entirely political.
00:02:00.000 So, I don't know, should I just say, it's a political civil war at the very least, watching law enforcement be used against political rivals.
00:02:09.000 In an op-ed for the Washington Post, one writer said, if the purpose of all of this is just to stop Donald Trump from running again, Why not just use the power of Congress to do so?
00:02:19.000 As if to imply it is believed among people in media that the only reason they're going after Trump supporters and Trump himself is because they're scared he'll win in 2024.
00:02:28.000 And I think that's basically what they're doing.
00:02:30.000 Trying to find any way possible to use the 14th amendment to stop Trump from winning another term.
00:02:36.000 And that just says to me, like, I mean, it's all right there in front of your face.
00:02:40.000 So regardless of what you think, either you're on the left and you think Trump staged a coup and lost, Or, and January 6th, so you must be thinking Civil War.
00:02:49.000 Or, you support Trump and you're watching the DOJ go after their political rivals.
00:02:53.000 So, trying times indeed.
00:02:56.000 We'll talk about all that and a bunch of other stories.
00:02:59.000 The Supreme Court, obviously this one's really, really big, just struck down a gun control law in New York, so it's a major victory for gun rights advocates.
00:03:07.000 We saw this one coming.
00:03:09.000 Kavanaugh, stopping short, he wrote in concurrence, yes, yes, you can keep it in bare arms, but you still need to get a permit.
00:03:18.000 And I think that's dumb, but whatever, we'll talk about it.
00:03:20.000 Joining us to discuss all of this is Congressman Troy Nails.
00:03:24.000 Tim, good to be with you.
00:03:26.000 Absolutely.
00:03:26.000 Thanks for coming.
00:03:27.000 Do you want to introduce yourself?
00:03:28.000 Sure.
00:03:29.000 I represent Texas 22nd Congressional District.
00:03:32.000 I'm a freshman, so I'm the new junior Woodchuck on the block, but it's an honor to serve.
00:03:36.000 I'm a very conservative member of Congress.
00:03:39.000 I joined the Freedom Caucus.
00:03:41.000 It's been trying times.
00:03:42.000 You know, we're in the minority up there and it's difficult when you know that for two years you're not getting anything meaningful across the aisle.
00:03:51.000 So, we have our battles each and every day, but I keep the faith and stay after it.
00:03:56.000 Keep fighting.
00:03:57.000 You also were a sheriff.
00:03:58.000 I was.
00:03:58.000 Law enforcement for 30 years.
00:04:00.000 I was a sheriff for the past eight years and it started with my father way back then when and he was a sheriff, military man, older brother, sheriff as well, military and then I have a twin brother and I that joined the military as well and we're both in law enforcement.
00:04:15.000 It's been an honor.
00:04:16.000 Right on.
00:04:16.000 Thanks for coming.
00:04:17.000 It should be a good conversation.
00:04:18.000 Thank you.
00:04:18.000 We got Seamus.
00:04:19.000 I'm Seamus Goglin of Freedom Tunes.
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00:06:39.000 The fire emojis are already in the chat.
00:06:42.000 Feds search home of Jeffrey Clark, former DOJ official who pushed Trump's false election fraud claims.
00:06:49.000 They say Clark is a former DOJ lawyer, who former President Donald Trump sought to install as Attorney General in the days before the January 6th Capitol riot, as top officials refused to go along with his vote fraud claims.
00:07:01.000 It wasn't clear what investigators were seeking at Clark's home, but the raid was part of the Justice Department's sweeping investigation into the effort to overturn the 2020 elections, according to sources familiar with the matter.
00:07:11.000 Now, what we're hearing from conservatives and Republicans Is that Jeffrey Clark was simply trying to understand and investigate the claims that were being made.
00:07:20.000 On the left, they're saying he's an insurrectionist who is going along with Trump's schemes.
00:07:25.000 I don't think either narrative matters.
00:07:28.000 What matters is the narratives exist.
00:07:30.000 If you're on the left and you're looking at this, you're like, yes, the federal government is going after Trump and his opponents.
00:07:36.000 Certainly, then you think Trump's tried staging a coup and we're in the midst of some very serious crisis.
00:07:41.000 Or you're a Trump supporter and you're like, this dude wasn't doing anything wrong.
00:07:44.000 And the weight of the DOJ is crushing down on their political rivals.
00:07:49.000 I happen to think that the DOJ, the January 6th committee is just trying to stop Trump from winning.
00:07:53.000 That's my opinion.
00:07:54.000 But either way, it looks like this country is being completely ripped apart.
00:07:58.000 Yep, you know, I've said it once and I will say it again.
00:08:01.000 In 2016, when there were accusations made that the presidential election was rigged, we investigated the accused.
00:08:09.000 In 2020, when the same accusation was made, we decided to investigate the accuser.
00:08:13.000 Make of that what you want.
00:08:14.000 I just don't like how the left is the anti-police state side quote-unquote the you know anti-prison industrial complex but if it's somebody who we don't know why yet if we know why and the dude did something wrong okay but we don't know why yet and just to see Democrats blindly be like yes Queen and like so excited that just Trump supporters are being arrested or searched or whatever I don't love.
00:08:42.000 I would assume that.
00:08:43.000 Clark probably knew this was coming.
00:08:45.000 He probably knew it was coming.
00:08:46.000 You look at what the DOJ has done at this sham committee.
00:08:49.000 They've gone after Steve Bannon, Mark Meadows, anybody even affiliated, associated with Trump, anybody that was texting with him, tweeting with him even days prior.
00:08:58.000 This is all about Trump.
00:08:59.000 This is that sham committee.
00:09:01.000 And it's an illegitimate committee, quite honestly.
00:09:03.000 And Jeffrey Clark, I'm pretty sure he was subpoenaed and he pleaded the fifth.
00:09:07.000 So I wonder if this is retaliation for him refusing to actually answer those questions.
00:09:12.000 Because you know what the January 6th Committee is doing?
00:09:14.000 I'll tell you, anybody who's testified for the January 6th Committee, you've been played.
00:09:19.000 You watch the videos they're putting out.
00:09:20.000 They're pulling quotes out of context.
00:09:22.000 That's what they wanted.
00:09:23.000 It's a non-adversarial committee.
00:09:25.000 There's no cross-examination.
00:09:26.000 So they're just getting people to say whatever they want.
00:09:29.000 They're taking interviews with the Trump sphere and getting them out of context.
00:09:32.000 It's a show trial.
00:09:33.000 It's a sham.
00:09:34.000 And now they're using the weight of the federal government to crush anybody who is supporting Trump.
00:09:39.000 And it's all one-sided because there's no Republicans on it.
00:09:42.000 Exactly, exactly.
00:09:44.000 McCarthy asked me to be one of the five, and I wanted to be, but for your listeners, you need to understand that this is the first time in the history of Congress has a speaker ever rejected a minority leader's picks to be on a select committee.
00:09:56.000 It's never happened before.
00:09:58.000 She didn't like Jim Jordan.
00:09:58.000 She didn't like Jim Banks and some of the others.
00:10:00.000 So we're not on it, but we're doing our own thing.
00:10:02.000 Because I think it's clearly meant to manipulate people who don't pay attention.
00:10:07.000 So they go, it's a bipartisan committee because we have- Because we've got Liz Cheney!
00:10:10.000 Yeah, right.
00:10:11.000 You know what I love?
00:10:13.000 I feel like if we're talking about actual political arguments, the real factions are libertarians and conservatives.
00:10:20.000 Cause liberals are just saying whatever random crazy nonsense.
00:10:23.000 I just don't even understand.
00:10:24.000 They're like, Liz Cheney's great.
00:10:25.000 I'm like, what?
00:10:25.000 Yeah.
00:10:26.000 You hated the Cheneys.
00:10:27.000 Where are you?
00:10:27.000 What?
00:10:28.000 No one in the Cheney family has ever gotten us like hyped up on fears of terrorism or anything like that to strip people of their civil liberties.
00:10:35.000 I don't think we have anything to worry about here.
00:10:38.000 The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, huh?
00:10:40.000 Yeah, if you've been watching the hearings and Liz, the first hearing, 20 minutes, pretty sleepy.
00:10:46.000 She must have a serious crush on Trump because she mentioned his name over and over and over again.
00:10:52.000 But truly, I think what it is, she despises him.
00:10:54.000 She thinks about him when she wakes up and when she goes to sleep.
00:10:58.000 She's thinking about him because she despises him.
00:11:00.000 Everybody on that committee, they hate him.
00:11:02.000 And I believe, Tim, you're absolutely right.
00:11:04.000 This is about Trump in 2024.
00:11:06.000 There's no other reason for this.
00:11:08.000 Yeah, I'd like DeSantis, though.
00:11:08.000 about inflation and gas. So it's all about January 6th. And I think it's having, sadly,
00:11:13.000 a little bit of an impact. And maybe that's why you're seeing DeSantis numbers improve a little
00:11:17.000 bit. Yeah. I like DeSantis, though. I'm not saying he's not a good guy. I'm just saying that I think
00:11:22.000 that as they continue to do this, it's all one sided and you keep it on, keep it on. I was
00:11:27.000 watching MSLSD the other day and CNN and that's all you saw.
00:11:31.000 Trump, Trump, Trump's name on it.
00:11:33.000 So they're trying to convince the American people.
00:11:35.000 It's like they think he's still president or something.
00:11:36.000 Yeah.
00:11:37.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:11:37.000 It's been two years, man.
00:11:38.000 Go home!
00:11:38.000 Bluenon, bro!
00:11:40.000 They think he's secretly still the president.
00:11:42.000 I gotta say, I agree with you.
00:11:44.000 And you would, you know, it's unfortunate because like you said, it is having something of an effect.
00:11:49.000 But if it wasn't, you'd almost just call it a weird group therapy session.
00:11:52.000 They're all just getting together to vent about how much they He didn't like Trump and he was bad.
00:11:55.000 It just seems like a very emotionally satisfying thing for them, rather than something serious people are engaging in for good reasons.
00:12:02.000 They're just all trauma bonding.
00:12:03.000 Yeah, really.
00:12:05.000 So Robert Barnes was on, he was saying he doesn't think they're gonna actually criminally charge Trump or even do a criminal referral, because if they do, then it's Ron DeSantis.
00:12:14.000 But what they want to do is demonize Trump enough to where they'll have something to campaign on.
00:12:19.000 So come 2024, Trump comes out and he's like, you know, I'm going to be running again.
00:12:23.000 And then they're going to be like, remember all of that crazy stuff we showed you in the FBI?
00:12:27.000 Oh, don't vote for that guy.
00:12:28.000 Oh, it's the end of days.
00:12:30.000 That's what they want.
00:12:31.000 It's Russiagate 2.0.
00:12:33.000 Right.
00:12:34.000 Exactly.
00:12:35.000 I wanted to ask you about that, which is, do you think your constituents, because when I go on Twitter and, you know, the people I follow are, a lot of them are famous Hollywood people or people on the left still.
00:12:47.000 And even my people on the right, like everyone's kind of talking about it.
00:12:50.000 Do real people care about this or do real people just want to talk about the economy?
00:12:54.000 Like, are there working poor constituents who are coming up to you talking about January 6th?
00:13:00.000 Like, is it an issue that affects real people right now?
00:13:03.000 I think when the people that talked about it, they said there's very few people watching this stuff.
00:13:08.000 Listen, they cannot talk about inflation, they can't talk about gas prices, but the mom and dad and everybody else that's paying five bucks for fuel, that's what's on their mind.
00:13:18.000 The food, all of it, the inflation, eight and a half percent.
00:13:20.000 So what else are the Democrats going to play?
00:13:22.000 I mean, really, quite honestly, they're pretty clever about this.
00:13:26.000 Let's just talk about January 6th, because we can just beat Trump every day.
00:13:30.000 Beat him, beat him, beat him, beat him, because they don't want him coming back in 2024.
00:13:32.000 No, I hope he comes back, because I think he'll be the 47th president if he comes back.
00:13:37.000 He will be lost.
00:13:38.000 Could you imagine?
00:13:39.000 I do.
00:13:40.000 I believe he's coming back.
00:13:41.000 Could you just imagine being at a gas station, and then all of a sudden you hear someone just yell out in anger, like, And you're like, oh man, you must have saw the gas prices.
00:13:49.000 And you walk over, gas prices?
00:13:51.000 No, no, I'm watching the January 6th hearing!
00:13:53.000 It's that Viking guy!
00:13:56.000 He's back!
00:13:56.000 The shaman.
00:13:58.000 We came so close to losing it all that day!
00:14:03.000 This is so hysterical, the entire narrative.
00:14:05.000 He's the sitting president of the United States at this point, has complete control over the military, right?
00:14:10.000 He's the commander-in-chief, and his attempt at an insurrection is to, like, vaguely dog-whistle that people enter a building without weapons?
00:14:18.000 Yeah, basically.
00:14:20.000 If anything, we learned he's really bad at insurrections.
00:14:23.000 So we should all feel safer for a third term.
00:14:26.000 Like, yo, homeboy tried it and he was not good at it.
00:14:29.000 Second term.
00:14:31.000 You know, they're pretty clever, too, because they show the worst few minutes of footage.
00:14:35.000 And they'll show law enforcement officers get hurt.
00:14:37.000 And there's not a law enforcement officer across the country that would support any law enforcement officer getting hurt.
00:14:42.000 And if you assaulted a law enforcement officer that day, go to prison, not jail.
00:14:46.000 Lock him up.
00:14:46.000 Go to prison, lock him up, and I think we would all agree with that.
00:14:49.000 Yes.
00:14:50.000 But I tell you something.
00:14:52.000 I give tours of that Capitol today, and I gave it last week, and when you go through that beautiful statutory hall, if the individuals inside that building wanted to destroy that building, they could have.
00:15:01.000 There's monuments everywhere.
00:15:02.000 There's paintings.
00:15:03.000 They could have destroyed it, but they chose not to because most of the people inside that building didn't do anything wrong.
00:15:09.000 They were there.
00:15:10.000 They shouldn't have been there, but quite honestly, Yeah, well, and it's true.
00:15:18.000 I mean, there's nuance, right?
00:15:19.000 You did have people on one side of the building who were rioting, who broke the doors down.
00:15:23.000 On the other side of the building, the police removed the barriers, opened the doors, waved people in.
00:15:26.000 Those people didn't do anything wrong.
00:15:29.000 The people who broke in and were causing problems did.
00:15:32.000 One guy tried claiming that he was let in, and there's a video of him climbing through a broken window, and they're like, nah.
00:15:38.000 He's like, why would they just leave the window open?
00:15:41.000 There was a pie on the window sill, I was not gonna go there.
00:15:44.000 They texted me, said, smell for the pie, then punch with cover your fist with a bandana.
00:15:48.000 Punch it.
00:15:50.000 I want to know if they're going to charge a dog.
00:15:51.000 I mean, Triumph the Dog now with... Oh, that's right.
00:15:55.000 No one charges Triumph the Dog.
00:15:56.000 My point is, even when you look at the people who did break the law, who should be prosecuted, it still wasn't an insurrection.
00:16:04.000 Well, and this was kind of, maybe this is a stretch, Tim, but this was, you know, Occupy is you had normal people marching peacefully, which is our right to do.
00:16:12.000 And then you had people destroying property.
00:16:15.000 And those are very, those are two very different groups of people.
00:16:19.000 Of course.
00:16:20.000 Well, with January 6, it is fair to point out, this is the Capitol building, and there was an effort to count the electoral votes.
00:16:28.000 So it's bad that gets disrupted.
00:16:29.000 That puts it on a special level, but it was a riot.
00:16:32.000 It was a riot, and it was a really, really bad one.
00:16:36.000 And there's questions about security and how we should be handling this.
00:16:40.000 But the funny thing is, on January 20th, 2017, hundreds of black-clad far-leftists romped through D.C., smashing windows and setting fires, attacking people, and they were all arrested, and almost all of them were acquitted, except for the people who actually pleaded guilty, because they made a mistake.
00:16:57.000 A bunch of people just said, no matter what, I'm not guilty.
00:17:00.000 And then the progressive lawyers and legal apparatus were able to get these people out.
00:17:04.000 Lawsuits were filed and the city ended up having to pay the people they arrested, some
00:17:08.000 of them.
00:17:09.000 And one of them I think was a journalist.
00:17:11.000 So it's funny when the far left rampages through DC during Trump's inauguration, the government
00:17:17.000 doesn't care.
00:17:18.000 But when you come to the government's house, all of a sudden they're going to put the boot
00:17:20.000 on you.
00:17:21.000 It shows you who they're really willing to protect.
00:17:22.000 It's not you, it's them.
00:17:23.000 But only sometimes when you go to the government's house, right?
00:17:25.000 Because we cannot forget the 529.
00:17:26.000 529!
00:17:26.000 Yeah, 529.
00:17:27.000 Where they surrounded the White House 1,500, what was it, 1,500 federal agents?
00:17:29.000 No, no, 150.
00:17:29.000 I'm sorry, 150.
00:17:30.000 Yeah, yeah, 150.
00:17:30.000 I exaggerated.
00:17:30.000 Look, I'm turning to CNN.
00:17:31.000 1500, uh, what was it? 1500, uh, federal agents. I'm sorry.
00:17:35.000 I exactly look, I'm turning 150 million. We had 150, uh, federal agents were injured.
00:17:44.000 They surrounded the White House.
00:17:45.000 The president literally had to retreat into a bunker.
00:17:47.000 And what was the response?
00:17:49.000 Laughter.
00:17:49.000 People were laughing at the president.
00:17:50.000 It was amazing.
00:17:51.000 Do the Republicans have a plan on holding a 529 commission?
00:17:54.000 Select committee?
00:17:56.000 I don't believe so.
00:17:57.000 Well, but you know about 529.
00:17:58.000 Oh, go ahead.
00:17:59.000 I don't.
00:18:00.000 Thousands of far leftists ripped down the barricades in front of the White House, tried tearing the fence down, set fire to a White House guard post, set fire to St.
00:18:10.000 John's Church.
00:18:10.000 The president was ushered into an emergency bunker out of fear for his safety, and journalists were injured.
00:18:17.000 150 officers got injured throughout the protests.
00:18:20.000 There is a photo, an aerial photo of D.C.
00:18:23.000 showing fires all over the city.
00:18:26.000 It was so much worse than January 6th.
00:18:29.000 But I gotta tell you, man, Troy, you see, I think the issue is the Democrats, they play offense.
00:18:34.000 They hold these committees, Republicans don't do it.
00:18:36.000 Why don't Republicans announce a select committee on 529 and start bringing in people, filing subpoenas?
00:18:42.000 I think what you're going to see is once we take over, and we will take over the House in January, there's no question about it.
00:18:47.000 And I think Leader McCarthy has stated that he's going to obviously form some select committees.
00:18:52.000 I think we'll be looking in the Hunter's laptop and COVID issues, Afghanistan, that dismal withdrawal, and obviously the southern border, fentanyl.
00:19:01.000 So I think there's going to be some committees established.
00:19:03.000 I think the Judiciary and Oversight and Government Reform are going to be very, very busy for the next two years just looking at some of these things.
00:19:11.000 As it relates to the 529, I'm not certain.
00:19:14.000 But, you know, it's sad.
00:19:16.000 I mean, January 6th was a difficult day.
00:19:18.000 I was one of the last guys there, you know, protecting that chamber, having actual conversations with the individuals on the other side.
00:19:24.000 So, it's just a sad day, and I think the American people look at that.
00:19:27.000 It was a black eye on America.
00:19:29.000 I mean, we've got to be clear.
00:19:30.000 It was a black eye, but it was not Donald Trump that brought those people inside that building.
00:19:34.000 I've got a tough question for you.
00:19:36.000 Yeah.
00:19:37.000 Will you support the impeachment of Joe Biden after the Republicans take over the House?
00:19:41.000 Without question.
00:19:42.000 Yeah, there you go.
00:19:43.000 Without question.
00:19:43.000 I thought it was going to be a hard one.
00:19:44.000 No, no, it wouldn't be.
00:19:46.000 And it wouldn't just be him.
00:19:47.000 That was, in fact, the easiest question.
00:19:49.000 No, Mayorkas needs to go.
00:19:51.000 You need to get rid of some of these others, Steve, because I've been down to the southern border.
00:19:54.000 I'm going to deflect down to the southern border, but I've been down there, Mayorkas, telling the American people the southern border is closed.
00:19:59.000 No, it's not.
00:20:00.000 I'm down here in the water with Griff Jenkins from Fox News, and there's people walking right across.
00:20:03.000 So don't tell me and then don't stop lying to the American people.
00:20:06.000 Sorry, I think he should be impeached over Ukraine. I think you guys need to launch an
00:20:11.000 investigation into those dealings. It's remarkable how Donald Trump got impeached over,
00:20:17.000 he was impeached over Ukraine, I believe, right?
00:20:21.000 That was one of the impeachments.
00:20:21.000 Yeah, the phone call with Zelensky.
00:20:23.000 For looking into what Biden was doing.
00:20:25.000 And it was clever.
00:20:28.000 The Democratic establishment, and obviously the neocon Republicans who work with him, were able to take what Joe Biden did, stick it to Trump, and use it to impeach him.
00:20:37.000 They said Donald Trump engaged in a quid pro quo with the president of Ukraine, when what actually happened was, in my opinion, When you see the transcript and you hear about what Trump was saying, it sounds like Trump didn't really know what was going on.
00:20:51.000 It sounds like Trump watched Fox News and then saw some video where Joe Biden's like, I said, you're not getting a loan guarantee, a billion dollars, unless you fire the prosecutor.
00:21:00.000 Well, SOB, guy gets fired.
00:21:01.000 And then Trump's like, what's going on?
00:21:03.000 And then he calls him and he's like, what was that video?
00:21:05.000 But before you look at the transcript, he's like, what was that video about?
00:21:07.000 And he's like, look into it.
00:21:08.000 And that was it.
00:21:09.000 And they were like, impeach him.
00:21:10.000 Why?
00:21:11.000 Joe Biden.
00:21:12.000 Went to Ukraine when the US government approved a billion dollars in loan guarantees.
00:21:18.000 He told Ukraine, and bragged about it by the way, if you don't fire the prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, I will block these loans.
00:21:26.000 And the president of Ukraine told Joe Biden, you can't do that, you don't have the authority.
00:21:29.000 And Biden said, call the president, see what he says.
00:21:32.000 The man admitted to having no authority, to a quid pro quo, gloated about it, laughed in a room full of people.
00:21:40.000 Turns out Viktor Shokin had a dozen plus investigations into Burisma, where Hunter Biden sat on the board getting $83,000 per month.
00:21:48.000 Now, I'm not accusing Joe Biden of having done that for the purpose of protecting his son.
00:21:53.000 I'm saying it just so happens the prosecutor was investigating a company his son worked at, made a lot of money from.
00:21:59.000 Here's the best part.
00:22:00.000 According to Hunter Biden's laptop, they shared bank accounts.
00:22:03.000 So that means the money that was coming into Hunter Biden, Joe Biden had access to.
00:22:07.000 They also shared phone numbers.
00:22:08.000 I look at that and I'm just like, how do we not have an investigation at the very least?
00:22:14.000 I'm not saying Joe Biden's guilty.
00:22:15.000 I'm saying that's beyond probable cause to be like, maybe we should investigate what happened here.
00:22:20.000 I'm just realizing me and my father are not as close as we should be.
00:22:24.000 That sounds awesome.
00:22:25.000 But this, I mean, and that's exactly why the media covered it up, right?
00:22:28.000 And that's exactly why it was suppressed by all the major social media companies.
00:22:31.000 We've had other Republican prospects, you know, I've asked about this, like, well, you know, when it comes to impeachment, we're going to need this, that.
00:22:38.000 You're just like, we're doing it.
00:22:40.000 I really appreciated that, actually.
00:22:42.000 No issues with that at all.
00:22:43.000 But quite honestly, we've got to wait till, I mean, I really want him to be the Democrat nominee in 2020.
00:22:48.000 I was just going to say, I was going to say, don't you want him to run?
00:22:50.000 We need Sleepy Joe to be there.
00:22:52.000 I saw you try to run and pick him up when he fell off his bike just like come on buddy you got this you got this can I I just want to backtrack to January 6 because I actually think it's really interesting and I've obviously I've never talked to anyone who was there where you're a Republican so you're on the side of a lot of the people who were there You're from law enforcement, so you have to gauge and assess threats and protect people.
00:23:17.000 I assume even when you are not wearing that badge, you still take that very seriously.
00:23:23.000 What in God's name was your mindset during that?
00:23:29.000 What were you thinking?
00:23:31.000 What was the mentality?
00:23:32.000 Did you really Did you feel threatened?
00:23:34.000 Were you in law enforcement mode?
00:23:37.000 Were you in like, what is this political, you know, did you take it lightly?
00:23:40.000 What was going on through your head?
00:23:42.000 Great question, JB.
00:23:43.000 It was COVID.
00:23:44.000 So it's not like they were all 435 of us on the floor.
00:23:47.000 There were many up in the gallery area as well.
00:23:50.000 And I was there back towards the center on the right side in the center.
00:23:53.000 And we were going through the objectors of Arizona.
00:23:56.000 And then all of a sudden, you know, there's no televisions on the house floor.
00:23:58.000 They've got some in the cloak rooms in the back.
00:24:00.000 And then all of a sudden I started getting some text messages and stuff from family and friends.
00:24:04.000 And then all of a sudden I saw a bunch of Capitol Police rush in.
00:24:07.000 Uniform, non-uniform.
00:24:09.000 And then one guy said, the Capitol's been breached.
00:24:11.000 The Capitol's been breached.
00:24:12.000 We're locked in.
00:24:13.000 We're not going anywhere.
00:24:14.000 So I'm back at the back there and they're trying to get members out.
00:24:17.000 And then all of a sudden they started banging on those center doors.
00:24:20.000 So if you see pictures of me in that blue shirt, I'm that guy in that blue shirt.
00:24:24.000 You're like, this is White House down, it's happening.
00:24:26.000 And then all of a sudden they broke the windows.
00:24:28.000 They broke the windows and then it got a little bit ugly.
00:24:30.000 Yeah.
00:24:31.000 Did you know who at this point?
00:24:33.000 Were you in just defensive mode?
00:24:35.000 Were you trying to figure it out?
00:24:37.000 No, I didn't know.
00:24:38.000 I mean, all I did do know is that some others put some furniture in front of those doors to make sure that it wouldn't get through.
00:24:45.000 They broke the windows and then I was eyeballing a kid on the other side, a young man.
00:24:48.000 And then I started having a little conversation with him because You see in all these pictures these Capitol Police officers having their guns drawn.
00:24:56.000 And so I thought, we cannot have this.
00:24:58.000 I mean, people are going to get shot if we're not careful.
00:25:00.000 So my job, my law enforcement background, trying to diffuse the situation.
00:25:04.000 And we did it.
00:25:05.000 And nobody entered.
00:25:06.000 The Capitol Police said, you've got to get off the house floor.
00:25:09.000 I said, I'm not leaving.
00:25:10.000 I'm not leaving my brothers and sisters in blue.
00:25:12.000 So I stayed there till the end.
00:25:14.000 Wow.
00:25:14.000 Good for you.
00:25:16.000 That's it?
00:25:16.000 Not worried about... I mean, were you worried at all about your safety?
00:25:21.000 No.
00:25:21.000 Your life?
00:25:22.000 No, my wife's a little upset, but there's the picture.
00:25:24.000 Remember that guy in the blue jersey?
00:25:26.000 You see that guy?
00:25:26.000 Yeah.
00:25:28.000 Yeah, I mean, to be fair, me and the congressman almost had a wrestling match downstairs before the show, and I was like, I trust this guy can handle himself.
00:25:34.000 We spotted each other's cauliflower ear.
00:25:36.000 You saw my ear, Jamie.
00:25:38.000 You backed off right away.
00:25:39.000 I spotted the threat before you spotted my ears, and then you were like, oh boy!
00:25:42.000 And then we became friends.
00:25:44.000 Yeah, this is it, right?
00:25:45.000 Oh yeah, hey, look at that!
00:25:46.000 That's me.
00:25:47.000 My wife said, God, baby, I didn't know you were that receding that much at Ball Hill.
00:25:52.000 But no, I tell you, I applaud the Capitol Police officers there with me, though.
00:25:55.000 I mean, they did a good job.
00:25:56.000 They maintained composure.
00:25:57.000 They did not fire when that glass was broken.
00:26:00.000 And initially, we thought it was gunfire, because I ducked down.
00:26:03.000 And then immediately, within seconds, there was another guy said, I don't think that was gunfire, because it had hit me.
00:26:08.000 I mean, I wouldn't be here today.
00:26:09.000 One officer did fire.
00:26:11.000 Well, and that was about probably 10-15 minutes after that photo.
00:26:15.000 And that was off my back right shoulder in the speaker's lobby, and that was Lieutenant Byrd.
00:26:20.000 And I've been a very vocal critic of that shooting.
00:26:23.000 I've had officers shot and killed, and I've had officers shoot and kill people.
00:26:27.000 So I know a little bit about, you know, self-defense and use of force, and he should have been charged with that.
00:26:34.000 He never went to a grand jury.
00:26:36.000 Ashley Babbitt was murdered on our nation's capital on January 6th.
00:26:39.000 Will there be an effort, do you believe, on the part of Republicans or yourself to investigate or to get an indictment or anything like that?
00:26:45.000 Well, I would like to.
00:26:46.000 I think we need to continue talking about it, but I don't think there's going to be a lot of energy to move down that path.
00:26:52.000 I've been one of maybe two or three or four in the House that has actually addressed this issue.
00:26:57.000 We tend to like the Freedom Caucus.
00:26:59.000 You know, you look at right now with most Republicans, and it's like they just want to get by.
00:27:05.000 They want to do the bare minimum, just get by, get through the next day.
00:27:09.000 They'll forget about it when they forget about it.
00:27:11.000 Right now, one of the big issues that's really gotten me fired up is, so I'm a resident of West Virginia.
00:27:16.000 That's where I officially live.
00:27:18.000 And Shelley Moore Capito, the Senator Republican, has signed on to this gun control legislation.
00:27:23.000 And she's a Republican in West Virginia, second most Trump-supporting state in the country.
00:27:26.000 So I'm a little bit upset about that.
00:27:29.000 And that's the problem.
00:27:29.000 We have 14 Republicans in the Senate supporting this ridiculous bill, coming to the aid of Democrats who want to strip us of our rights.
00:27:39.000 You know, what bothers me is we never see the inverse.
00:27:41.000 We never see Democrats being forced to negotiate with Republicans on Easing gun restrictions and bringing about gun access.
00:27:49.000 So that really, I don't know, that hurts me.
00:27:52.000 I mean, Republicans are expected to hold the line and compromise a little bit and then hold the line at its new position.
00:27:58.000 Whenever a Republican actually tries to bring things back to the way they used to be or conserve, as conservatives are supposed to, they're called an extremist or a radical.
00:28:07.000 Yeah.
00:28:08.000 Well, I don't know.
00:28:09.000 What are your thoughts on the gun stuff they're doing?
00:28:11.000 You're right.
00:28:11.000 There are 14 senators and one of our senators, we have two obviously from Texas, John Cornyn and Ted Cruz.
00:28:18.000 And I know that John Cornyn, I think McConnell asked him to kind of help lead that effort and try to find some unity or compromise with the other side.
00:28:26.000 One of the Democrats has a compromise.
00:28:28.000 Yeah, well, I'm just letting you know that our big state convention was last week and Senator Cornyn spoke at it and they booed him pretty much right out of the room.
00:28:36.000 I think he's having a difficult time right now.
00:28:39.000 They're liars.
00:28:41.000 Shelley Capito said that this is not about red flag laws, we won't allow that.
00:28:46.000 The bill's literally got a whole section on red flag laws and funding it.
00:28:49.000 They're just spitting in our faces and then telling us it's raining.
00:28:54.000 What do you think, and I'm asking all of these serious questions, maybe because I'm surrounded by Ian's crystals and I'm trying to bring unity to the country, but what are your thoughts on, I feel like Democrats and Republicans, they never come together to talk about, hey, how can we together Help with these shootings, these mass shootings.
00:29:15.000 Or what can we do to prevent them?
00:29:16.000 Or what are better law enforcement tactics?
00:29:18.000 Obviously we just saw a complete disaster happen in Texas.
00:29:22.000 And what ends up happening is it becomes, we want to take all your guns, don't take my guns.
00:29:26.000 And we stop talking about people's safety, right?
00:29:29.000 And so you again, coming from law enforcement, I feel like whenever Republicans on the news are asked about what we should do, we're not They don't really get asked about tactics, they just have to automatically be on their heels and defend, you know, the Second Amendment essentially.
00:29:46.000 So, do you see any sort of compromise or what would you do with your experience?
00:29:55.000 I think mental illness is a serious issue in our country, quite honestly.
00:29:59.000 Is there anything you think needs to change when it comes to gun control, gun legislation,
00:30:05.000 or do you think it's more a mental health thing, etc., etc.?
00:30:08.000 I think mental illness is a serious issue in our country.
00:30:11.000 Quite honestly, just look at everything you see on television today, it seems to be a
00:30:14.000 little bit weird.
00:30:15.000 But nobody wants to see what took place in Uvalde.
00:30:18.000 Nobody.
00:30:19.000 We all hurt.
00:30:20.000 If you have children, it's painful to watch it.
00:30:22.000 I don't even, quite honestly, like even talking about it.
00:30:25.000 But when you talk about these red flag laws, and if you look at, there's 19 states, I believe, that have red flag laws in our country.
00:30:31.000 And some of those states are Illinois and New York and here in District of Columbia, Washington, D.C.
00:30:37.000 And they have those red flag laws and they're very, they're some of the most strict gun laws you can have in the country.
00:30:42.000 It talks about waiting periods and And keeping guns out of the mentally ill and domestic abusers and even talking about private sales transactions 72-hour waiting periods.
00:30:52.000 So they're all there.
00:30:54.000 Limits on how you could buy ammo.
00:30:55.000 And they have some of the highest crime in the country.
00:30:58.000 So I'm saying if Chicago, listen Gore Lightfoot, whatever her name is, if you can find a way to solve the problems.
00:31:05.000 I mean people are killing each other but nobody's talking about the people being killed in Chicago.
00:31:09.000 I actually do have a very simple proposal that will maintain the Second Amendment rights and reduce these shootings.
00:31:17.000 Promote fathers-in-the-home.
00:31:18.000 I'm not kidding.
00:31:19.000 That's literally the answer.
00:31:20.000 The profile of most of these mass shooters, it's fatherlessness.
00:31:26.000 That's a huge issue.
00:31:28.000 Outside of the mass shooting incidents, you look at crime in Chicago, for instance, it's a lack of a father-in-the-home.
00:31:34.000 So we need to encourage at the very least two-parent homes.
00:31:37.000 We need dads.
00:31:38.000 We need moms.
00:31:39.000 I mean, what's so frustrating hearing both you guys is that, you know, when I lived in the very rugged neighborhood of Park Slope, Brooklyn, I, you know, all of my friends had never shot a gun.
00:31:52.000 We're all very vocal.
00:31:53.000 Anti-gun, anti-gun.
00:31:55.000 Anytime there was a shooting, we would essentially just assume any Republican would rather, oh, play with their toy guns than, like, save children's lives because we didn't know anyone.
00:32:03.000 We never shot a gun.
00:32:04.000 And then I moved to Texas and my friends were like, Hey man, you want to shoot a gun?
00:32:06.000 And I was like, this is awesome.
00:32:07.000 And, but I actually started asking questions to green berets, to Navy
00:32:11.000 seals, to firearms instructors.
00:32:12.000 And I'm 40 years old and it was the first time in my life.
00:32:16.000 And I had a political talk show.
00:32:18.000 It was my job.
00:32:20.000 And it was the first time in my life.
00:32:21.000 I even heard statistics like, Hey, it's not that we're against these laws.
00:32:26.000 If these laws worked, maybe we would talk about these laws.
00:32:29.000 But I'm literally just learning for the first time that like, nah man, they don't even work.
00:32:34.000 And in fact, some of the places that are the most heavily armed are the safest.
00:32:38.000 Let's jump to the story.
00:32:39.000 This is huge news.
00:32:40.000 From TimCast.com, SCOTUS strikes down New York State's proper cause gun control law.
00:32:47.000 Justice Thomas says 2nd and 14th, 2nd and 14th amendments protect an individual's right to carry a handgun for self-defense outside the home.
00:32:54.000 That's an amazing statement.
00:32:55.000 Yes!
00:32:56.000 And the reason I wanted to jump into the story too is we're getting into the gun control conversation.
00:33:02.000 One of the statements made by Alito was that the argument from the gun control side was that these laws are needed to prevent mass shootings.
00:33:13.000 And he said, one of those happened in New York where you have this law.
00:33:17.000 It did not do anything.
00:33:19.000 That's the most frustrating thing to me, is that you get a lot of these gun control people argue for things that already exist.
00:33:26.000 I had someone just sent to me an article and it was like, these laws could end gun violence.
00:33:31.000 And it was like, four things that are already in place.
00:33:33.000 Banning assault rifles is like...
00:33:36.000 Did you Google this before you wrote it or shared it?
00:33:39.000 Right, well, and that was the reason I even asked.
00:33:41.000 The congressman is because you're literally seeing people on the left just accuse, if you're not pro-gun control, that you just are cool with murder, instead of asking people with experience with firearms, hey, what do you, as someone who has more experience than me, who's never touched a gun, what do you actually think we should do?
00:34:02.000 Yeah, I tell you what, the laws are there.
00:34:04.000 The laws are on the books.
00:34:05.000 They just need to be enforced.
00:34:07.000 You know, in Texas now, we have a constitutional carry.
00:34:10.000 So you don't have to go out and get an LTC.
00:34:12.000 You don't have to go out and get a license.
00:34:13.000 It's a constitutional carry.
00:34:15.000 So people are carrying guns.
00:34:16.000 And I tell you what, the crime in Houston is out of control, and people are starting to carry more guns.
00:34:22.000 You're seeing, you know, sales increasing guns.
00:34:25.000 Because if people can't count on their government to keep them safe.
00:34:29.000 George Soros has gone out there and all these DAs are in these offices now across our country and they're leaving these criminals out.
00:34:36.000 So these people, I think the American people, are starting to carry more weapons because they say, I can't count on my government to keep me safe.
00:34:42.000 I have to keep myself safe and my family.
00:34:44.000 And I can't blame them because it's out of control.
00:34:46.000 Our cities are burning, gentlemen.
00:34:47.000 Now, is that working?
00:34:49.000 Are the places with more people carrying, do they become safer because of that sort of fear tactic?
00:34:56.000 I'll tell you this, when I finally moved to southern states, I certainly don't honk my horn as much when I'm cut off, because I'm like, I don't know what that guy's carrying.
00:35:03.000 I understand.
00:35:04.000 And that's not the point.
00:35:05.000 It's better to have it, not need it.
00:35:07.000 Need it, not have it.
00:35:08.000 But I'm just saying that criminals would have to kind of pause a little bit, take a second, think, hey, am I going to pull a gun on that guy?
00:35:13.000 Because he may have one.
00:35:14.000 So let's talk a bit about this ruling.
00:35:18.000 We can thank Brett Kavanaugh for blocking constitutional carry nationwide.
00:35:23.000 Shocking.
00:35:24.000 He said, basically, that this does not impact the existing permitting rules in 43 states.
00:35:30.000 That means if you're in a state that requires a permit for concealed carry, well, they did not touch that.
00:35:34.000 Come on, Kavanaugh!
00:35:35.000 You should have come out and been like the government.
00:35:38.000 The government requiring permission for you to bear arms is an infringement upon your right to bear arms.
00:35:44.000 However, he's of the opinion the government can not stop you from having it, but they can be forced to grant permission, which in my opinion makes no sense because if they can deny you a permit for any reason, then government permission as a requirement infringes upon your rights.
00:35:57.000 But this does mean that it's likely going to impact Maryland, New Jersey.
00:36:02.000 Obviously, it's New York, California, Hawaii, and the District of Columbia.
00:36:05.000 So this means, in all likelihood, these states will now have to actually give you a permit.
00:36:10.000 It's already prohibitively—it's restrictive in terms of what you need to do to apply for one.
00:36:16.000 So while this is a good ruling, the problem is Maryland is not—so here's how it works.
00:36:20.000 Maryland, New York, New Jersey, they say, OK, you filled the forms, you got the training, why do you need the weapon?
00:36:27.000 And this is what the Supreme Court struck down.
00:36:29.000 You can't ask that.
00:36:30.000 You can tell them, here's the requirements, and then you've got to give them the permit.
00:36:33.000 Because these states were just saying, you need a legitimate reason for this, and no matter what you said, they went, nope.
00:36:39.000 One of the plaintiffs said, he needed a weapon because of a string of violent robberies in his area, and he needed to protect himself.
00:36:46.000 And they said, no.
00:36:47.000 I'm like, what more could you ask for?
00:36:49.000 If you're famous, if you're rich, some of these states will give them to you, but New Jersey and New York still don't, even if you're rich and famous.
00:36:55.000 I got rejected and I just said revenge.
00:36:57.000 That's not a good reject.
00:36:59.000 Nope.
00:36:59.000 I once saw a guy in Walmart trying to buy a gun and he was openly talking about how he wanted to get revenge on someone.
00:37:05.000 No, really?
00:37:06.000 Yeah, and then he got escorted out by the police.
00:37:08.000 They wouldn't sell to him.
00:37:09.000 That's good.
00:37:10.000 So basically what's happening now is, the next move's in my opinion, it's a good victory, it's tremendous, but what's likely going to happen is that New Jersey and New York will just create very restrictive permitting practices.
00:37:21.000 That's what they were doing.
00:37:22.000 And then they're going to say, We can't ask you for why you need it, but we can ask you to undergo a three-month psychiatric evaluation.
00:37:31.000 So once again, they jam you up, then someone's gonna have to sue, and this took seven years to get through.
00:37:38.000 Seven years.
00:37:39.000 You know, I made it very clear that I will not be supporting this legislation coming through the Senate, and it's just, it's very difficult.
00:37:47.000 You think that all the laws that are out there, if you think creating more laws are going to keep the criminals from carrying weapons, they don't care.
00:37:56.000 They don't care about your Supreme Court.
00:37:58.000 They don't care about the Chief of Police or any laws.
00:38:00.000 They're going to continue to carry these weapons.
00:38:02.000 They're going to continue to hurt and harm the American people.
00:38:08.000 The people that are out there doing good things.
00:38:10.000 The criminals have the guns and they're not giving them up.
00:38:12.000 Now hold on.
00:38:13.000 You were a sheriff for 30 years?
00:38:14.000 I was a sheriff for 8 and law enforcement for 30.
00:38:17.000 Law enforcement with 30s.
00:38:17.000 So, this is in Texas, I'd imagine, right?
00:38:19.000 That's right.
00:38:19.000 So, you mean to tell me that, you know, so one, constitutional carry is relatively new, but you actually encountered people who defied the law and carried weapons?
00:38:28.000 Imagine that.
00:38:29.000 But that doesn't make sense!
00:38:30.000 Can you imagine that?
00:38:33.000 Wait, wait, wait.
00:38:34.000 This can't be true.
00:38:34.000 It was illegal.
00:38:35.000 It was like, little Johnny, little Johnny, do you know you're a convicted felon?
00:38:39.000 Yes, sir.
00:38:40.000 Do you know you can't carry a gun?
00:38:42.000 Yes, sir.
00:38:44.000 Did they read the sign?
00:38:45.000 They do not care.
00:38:46.000 Did they read the sign?
00:38:47.000 Did they read the sign that said no guns allowed?
00:38:48.000 I'm not following, but so like he knew he couldn't but still had it?
00:38:49.000 The little Johnny doesn't care.
00:38:50.000 Little Johnny doesn't care.
00:38:51.000 And you're wondering, we had shootings here in Washington, D.C. here last week.
00:38:56.000 It was a 15-year-old and he had a gun and then there was one a couple weeks prior to
00:39:00.000 that, he was 15-year-old, had a girlfriend, 15-years-old girlfriend, 8 months pregnant,
00:39:05.000 he had a gun and I'm thinking to myself, you want to talk about the breakdown of the family,
00:39:09.000 right?
00:39:10.000 There's no fathers in their lives and it's just causing problems.
00:39:15.000 That's what it is.
00:39:15.000 A major issue with shootings is that people don't have dads.
00:39:20.000 And the problem is when you try and bring that up to the left, they don't understand.
00:39:25.000 I shouldn't say the left.
00:39:25.000 I always do that.
00:39:26.000 Leftists, they actually like guns.
00:39:28.000 It's liberals.
00:39:30.000 It's these urban liberal types.
00:39:31.000 They can't think beyond single-layer issues.
00:39:35.000 They think, someone got shot, therefore get the gun away.
00:39:38.000 And it's like, but you need to understand, the person who had the gun had it illegally already.
00:39:42.000 Your new laws won't change.
00:39:43.000 So in Chicago, for instance, they're like, well, it's not Chicago's fault they're doing the shootings, they're getting the guns from Indiana.
00:39:49.000 And it's like, what more law could you put in Illinois if you've already got them?
00:39:54.000 Don't you get it?
00:39:56.000 We'll ban all the guns everywhere.
00:39:57.000 They say they don't want to ban guns, but then that's the only argument they have to make.
00:40:00.000 We'll destroy Indiana.
00:40:02.000 Did you see the store yesterday?
00:40:04.000 Another big beautiful wall.
00:40:04.000 Did you see the store yesterday?
00:40:06.000 A guy walks into one of the stores with a gun to rob the store.
00:40:10.000 Well, that's not legal.
00:40:11.000 That's not legal.
00:40:12.000 I saw that.
00:40:12.000 a gun and shot and killed him and the siblings of the robber they were
00:40:17.000 outraged on the news they're actually on the news the sister was saying this is
00:40:22.000 ridiculous I know he went in and robbed him but he shouldn't have been shot he
00:40:25.000 was pointing a gun at the clerk the clerk had a gun and shot and killed this
00:40:28.000 guy so this is the type of similar story years ago I just want to make one point really quickly about this.
00:40:36.000 This is one of the really interesting and obvious flaws with the left is they want to be really, really, really harsh on potential crime, which is to say going after people who haven't done anything wrong because there's a potential that they might.
00:40:52.000 And then when someone actually commits a crime, they want to be really lenient about it.
00:40:58.000 Do you see the story of the woman in the cell phone store?
00:41:00.000 And the guy walks in and she goes, hi, can I help you?
00:41:03.000 He goes, yeah, do you have a... BOOM!
00:41:05.000 And just starts mercilessly beating her for no reason.
00:41:09.000 And these are the people they will say, these are the people who they will say, you know, should be able to walk without bail.
00:41:14.000 And, you know, it's so cruel that the criminal justice system doesn't give them a second shot.
00:41:17.000 But then when it comes to law abiding citizens, they talk about restricting our freedom so that crime won't occur.
00:41:23.000 It's so backwards.
00:41:24.000 Remember, Kamala set up an account for the 2020 riots to bail out those individuals, and that was a true insurrectionist.
00:41:32.000 Listen, when you go up to Seattle and you occupy city blocks, what was it, the Chaz and the shop and all that?
00:41:37.000 That is an insurrection, fellas, without question.
00:41:40.000 They were burning down buildings, a police station, everything else, and look at many of them.
00:41:44.000 It was a mostly peaceful fire in Minnesota.
00:41:47.000 That's what they said.
00:41:48.000 It was a joke.
00:41:49.000 Fiery but mostly peaceful protest.
00:41:50.000 Fiery but mostly peaceful.
00:41:51.000 They were roasting marshmallows.
00:41:52.000 While it's burning behind you.
00:41:54.000 Exactly.
00:41:55.000 Exactly.
00:41:56.000 So I'm sorry.
00:41:58.000 This is why I think the political factions are the cult and regular people.
00:42:04.000 Because you have people who are like, the riots that burned down police stations were
00:42:08.000 peaceful.
00:42:10.000 They outright say it.
00:42:11.000 They write articles saying, in defense of looting.
00:42:14.000 After the Ferguson riots, they were like, actually, looting is revolutionary, and they're defying the system.
00:42:19.000 And I'm just like, you know, did you talk to any people who lived in Ferguson?
00:42:22.000 Because they were angry about the rioting, begging for it to stop.
00:42:26.000 And then these progressive urban liberal types, city urban liberal types, come out and write articles being like, actually, the rioting is good, because they're vapid, Self-interested egotists.
00:42:35.000 who don't understand what's actually going on. I'll tell you, in Ferguson, people who did not
00:42:41.000 live there exploited the chaos and started destroying things and looting them. And the
00:42:46.000 people who did live there were linking arms saying, please, this is our community.
00:42:51.000 These snooty, progressive, hipster types in New York, not wanting to do any amount of work to
00:42:57.000 understand the situation, looked at it and said, I'm going to defend those brown people because
00:43:01.000 there must be a good reason why they're rioting, and then wrote in defense of looting. And what
00:43:07.000 it really was was criminals victimizing a community, and they defended the criminals
00:43:10.000 because they're bad people.
00:43:12.000 I will never forget footage.
00:43:14.000 What happened to George Floyd was horrific.
00:43:16.000 I remember seeing footage of, during the rioting, two black women begging.
00:43:24.000 Begging a white person to stop destroying property.
00:43:28.000 And it's like, hey, these are the ones who, when you tourists, when you hipster tourists go back to your co-op and Park Slope and all that stuff, they're the ones who still have to live here.
00:43:35.000 It's their stores.
00:43:37.000 You're not, they're not the ones who killed George Floyd.
00:43:40.000 They're not the ones, you know.
00:43:41.000 But look, look, when you simply say something like, I think when they burned down that guy's bar, it was a bad thing.
00:43:47.000 And they go, well, you're racist.
00:43:48.000 It's like, okay, dude.
00:43:49.000 Yeah, well, there's no argument.
00:43:50.000 They don't know how to think outside that.
00:43:52.000 So, we also see this.
00:43:53.000 There is obviously a huge part that class plays here.
00:43:57.000 So, we were talking about this with the Canadian truckers honking their horns.
00:44:00.000 And literally, one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in the country, alright, honking your horn in such a neighborhood is terrorism.
00:44:07.000 You're trying to overthrow the country.
00:44:08.000 But you go into a poor black neighborhood and burn all the businesses down, that's just A-OK, right?
00:44:13.000 Ends justify means.
00:44:14.000 I mean, you'll scare all the moose if you honk in Canada.
00:44:16.000 Let me ask you, Congressman, do you think that should Republicans regain control of the House, assuming they do regain control of the House, probably the Senate, should there be an investigation into the 2020 riots maybe?
00:44:30.000 I know you mentioned there's probably not gonna be a lot of energy towards these things as they're old, but I feel like we need a resolution.
00:44:35.000 There should be, because I think a lot of the agitators in the 2020 riots, what we're finding out is many of these people are being paid.
00:44:42.000 They're not even from the neighborhood.
00:44:44.000 They're being bused in.
00:44:45.000 They're being called in.
00:44:46.000 They're being paid by these organizations on the far left to go out there and do damage and hurt our country.
00:44:52.000 If you saw what took place here a couple weeks ago when they had the leak with the Supreme Court ruling, the Roe vs. Wade, You saw some of the things in I think it was in California someplace maybe LA that seems to be the and and there were cop cars that had windows being smashed and I'm like the knucklehead break in that window on that car has no earthly idea what the hell Roe versus Wade is.
00:45:11.000 He doesn't.
00:45:12.000 He has no clue.
00:45:13.000 He has been paid.
00:45:15.000 They get these individuals and they rally the horses.
00:45:18.000 They pay them to go out there and spin things up and stir things up.
00:45:22.000 And that's the problem you have with the far left, is there's no civility there.
00:45:26.000 They want to go immediately to violence.
00:45:30.000 And it's dangerous in this country.
00:45:31.000 And so this deal coming up here with this potential, with the Supreme Court, with Roe versus Wade, I mean, it's going to get ugly.
00:45:39.000 I think National Guard needs to be deployed.
00:45:41.000 It's already gotten ugly.
00:45:42.000 They've been firebombing clinics that are set up to help pregnant women.
00:45:45.000 So they announced the Supreme Court will be adding another opinion day tomorrow.
00:45:53.000 And as soon as I heard that, I was like, you gotta be kidding me.
00:45:56.000 That's when they're gonna do it, aren't they?
00:45:57.000 And anybody who's ever covered riots, all the journalists out there, the riot squad, I've been on the ground.
00:46:04.000 You know, the worst possible day is Friday because everyone's off work and they got the weekend.
00:46:10.000 Students are out of school.
00:46:10.000 They got the weekend.
00:46:12.000 So if they do come out tomorrow morning and say, Rowan Casey, you're gone.
00:46:18.000 They may be thinking you do it on a Friday because then no one, no one in the media picks it up.
00:46:22.000 But the lunatics are waiting.
00:46:25.000 They're waiting with bated breath.
00:46:27.000 It's going to be 1045.
00:46:28.000 That's when they usually issue the last opinion around 1040.
00:46:31.000 And they're going to say, Rowan Casey, you're gone.
00:46:33.000 And then you are going to see tomorrow night, if they do this, bonkers.
00:46:38.000 Riots.
00:46:38.000 And then Saturday, insanity.
00:46:40.000 And guys, if you need somewhere safe to hide out on Saturday and you're in New York City, the Beacon Theater.
00:46:47.000 Festival.minds.com.
00:46:49.000 It's big, theater, sturdy walls.
00:46:52.000 That's where some of the worst writing is going to be in New York.
00:46:55.000 They're going to be like, where's Tim Pool?
00:46:57.000 Yeah, I'm just realizing this right now.
00:46:59.000 I mean, we didn't know.
00:47:00.000 This event's been planned for a long time.
00:47:02.000 We're going to be, it's not just us.
00:47:04.000 James O'Keefe, Tulsi Gabbard.
00:47:06.000 You're going to have a lot of people there.
00:47:08.000 Seth Dillon's going to be there.
00:47:09.000 This is the making of an action movie where it's like we are going to get locked in and either turn on each other or become the heroes New York City has been waiting for.
00:47:18.000 Someone's going to eat the last Snickers.
00:47:20.000 They're going to be like, it's him!
00:47:21.000 He's a liberal!
00:47:22.000 He's one of them!
00:47:23.000 I'll be like, Tulsi's a Russian asset!
00:47:24.000 We just keep going back and forth.
00:47:26.000 Yeah, I mean, they riot.
00:47:27.000 They're encouraged to riot.
00:47:29.000 As you mentioned, one of my favorite lines that we kept hearing repeatedly
00:47:32.000 was, rioting is the language of the unheard.
00:47:34.000 If only we were hearing them, they wouldn't be rioting.
00:47:36.000 And then they turn around and they go, we have to silence conservatives
00:47:39.000 or else they'll commit acts of violence.
00:47:41.000 It's like, well, hold on a second.
00:47:42.000 Hold on a sec.
00:47:43.000 You're like concerned about violence from conservatives, so you want to make them unheard?
00:47:47.000 Because you just told me, like, rioting is what people do when they aren't heard.
00:47:50.000 So what do you believe?
00:47:51.000 I just want to stress this one more time, like, they added an extra day to do opinions tomorrow, and it seems like it may be, like, why else would they do that?
00:48:01.000 They have the next week to do the final opinions.
00:48:03.000 They could do it on Monday.
00:48:04.000 And so I'm like, we're going to be in New York and it's going to be like, it's going to be like Dawn of the Dead.
00:48:09.000 We're going to be locked in and there's going to be like, they're outside.
00:48:12.000 They got the power lines.
00:48:13.000 And we have votes tomorrow morning, mid morning.
00:48:17.000 They should have probably waited till we're out of here.
00:48:19.000 Maybe they won't do it though.
00:48:20.000 Maybe what they're trying to do is, no, they're trying, I think there's like 16 more opinions.
00:48:25.000 Maybe they're trying to be like, we need to get all of this out on Monday.
00:48:29.000 So that means tomorrow we should do these ones.
00:48:32.000 Then Monday we can do Roe v. Wade.
00:48:33.000 The holiday weekend.
00:48:35.000 Wait for over the four.
00:48:35.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:48:36.000 I agree.
00:48:36.000 Maybe.
00:48:37.000 Oh, yeah.
00:48:37.000 People won't be paying attention.
00:48:38.000 Maybe.
00:48:39.000 Well, the crazy people are.
00:48:42.000 The crazy people will be.
00:48:44.000 But it's not a holiday weekend.
00:48:46.000 It's a holiday month.
00:48:47.000 It's MAGA month.
00:48:48.000 That's right.
00:48:48.000 MAGA month, the month of July.
00:48:49.000 We got to change all of our profile pictures to American flags and celebrate America.
00:48:54.000 And I'm OK with that.
00:48:55.000 I'm OK with that.
00:48:57.000 And we grill every day.
00:48:58.000 That's right.
00:48:58.000 Every day.
00:48:59.000 And then on the 4th of July, you have the fireworks.
00:49:01.000 But yeah, MAGA month.
00:49:03.000 I'm ready.
00:49:03.000 I'm not even kidding.
00:49:04.000 I'm legit, like, we are going... I'm just gonna stop you.
00:49:07.000 Buddy, I'm moving here.
00:49:09.000 I ordered... What did I order?
00:49:11.000 Fireworks, I hope.
00:49:12.000 How many hot dogs did I order?
00:49:13.000 100?
00:49:13.000 100?
00:49:14.000 What is this?
00:49:16.000 Yeah, I think I ordered 100 hot dogs.
00:49:17.000 Or is it 500?
00:49:18.000 No, it's not 500.
00:49:19.000 I think that's when I'm moving my stuff from Austin.
00:49:21.000 I'm gonna have to change my plans.
00:49:22.000 It's all month, bro.
00:49:24.000 Oh, it's all month?
00:49:24.000 We're gonna be firing up the grill all month.
00:49:27.000 This is awesome.
00:49:27.000 So I ordered this big thing from Portillo's.
00:49:30.000 Famous Chicago hot dogs.
00:49:32.000 And so we're gonna be grillin'.
00:49:34.000 Moving here is the best decision I've ever made.
00:49:37.000 This is awesome.
00:49:38.000 Everyone's gonna be chillin'.
00:49:39.000 That's work.
00:49:39.000 MAGA month, baby.
00:49:40.000 Yeah, we celebrate America.
00:49:42.000 Oh my goodness.
00:49:42.000 What were we talking about?
00:49:43.000 I wanted to get a little optimistic.
00:49:45.000 Gun, Supreme Court, protesting.
00:49:46.000 Man, I also, you know, it's just, we...
00:49:52.000 I feel like the rioting is sort of the on the street equivalent of what happens on Twitter where it's like, do you actually want something to get done?
00:50:01.000 Right?
00:50:01.000 If you actually want something to get done, you're going to want to talk to people.
00:50:05.000 You're good.
00:50:06.000 For example, so I got not many.
00:50:09.000 I've gotten, and I thank all of you listening.
00:50:11.000 I've gotten thousands of new followers on Twitter and to the podcast since I've started
00:50:15.000 coming on this show.
00:50:16.000 But I've lost a couple of vocal fans of mine who are on the left and they would just say
00:50:23.000 stuff about you that was hyperbolic but also that I would disagree with.
00:50:28.000 And they were like, how could you be on a show with that person?
00:50:31.000 And it's like, hey man, if you think we disagree on that, wouldn't you actually think it was
00:50:36.000 a great thing for me to be on the show, for me to bring a diverse viewpoint, for me to
00:50:42.000 become friends with someone who maybe I will even see my point of view.
00:50:47.000 Like sometimes I see his point of view and they don't care.
00:50:50.000 They will not listen.
00:50:51.000 And yeah, and that's, that's where I'm at.
00:50:53.000 So we've got this lefty guy who's going to be speaking on the same panel as us at the Beacon Theatre, and he had to put out a video explaining why he was doing it.
00:51:00.000 He called it a debate.
00:51:02.000 And so I got a message from this left-wing guy that I'm friends with, and he's like, you're debating this dude?
00:51:07.000 And I was like, I'm not debating anybody.
00:51:09.000 What are you talking about?
00:51:09.000 It's a panel on media manipulation.
00:51:11.000 Yeah, we're just hanging.
00:51:12.000 I mean, I'm gonna sit there and be like, I don't know.
00:51:15.000 I don't like debating people.
00:51:16.000 I'll argue with someone.
00:51:17.000 I'll try to correct them if I think they're wrong.
00:51:19.000 But I don't enter debates.
00:51:21.000 I don't, like, invite people here to debate me.
00:51:22.000 I don't do any of that stuff.
00:51:23.000 I just, let's have a conversation.
00:51:25.000 It's a hang.
00:51:25.000 It's a conversation.
00:51:26.000 But the fact that he even had to make a video addressing it, being like, here's why I'm doing it.
00:51:30.000 And then people responded with like, yeah, but dude, it's James O'Keefe.
00:51:33.000 Like, what's wrong with you?
00:51:34.000 It's okay, whatever, dude.
00:51:35.000 Look, I don't want to live that way.
00:51:39.000 I like being able to walk into a room with anybody and be like, tell me stuff.
00:51:42.000 Yes.
00:51:43.000 It appears to me that the American people can't seem to be able to sit across the table from each other like this and agree to disagree.
00:51:50.000 Yes.
00:51:51.000 And what we're teaching our kids, in my humble opinion, when you see what took place with the summer riots in 2020, it seems like if we disagree now, all of a sudden we curl up our fists and we hit each other in the nose.
00:52:02.000 And I think it's going in the wrong direction.
00:52:04.000 What are we teaching our kids?
00:52:05.000 What are we teaching these kids to think, hey, if you can't resolve it, just go in there and hit them in the nose.
00:52:11.000 And 2020 was bad, but we are one, Tim.
00:52:14.000 We are one police shooting away from having an enormous civil unrest.
00:52:20.000 If it's a white officer that shoots an African-American, and there's any questionable call there, Al Sharpton has his plane on the tarmac, it's ready to go, he's gonna fire that thing up, he's gonna fly to that area, and he's just gonna go there, and he's gonna be an agitator.
00:52:34.000 And it's sad!
00:52:35.000 That's not the way we should handle things.
00:52:37.000 It's not even about if it's questionable.
00:52:39.000 You take a look at the Ahmaud Arbery case, do you remember this one?
00:52:42.000 Yes.
00:52:43.000 Fox News, conservative Republicans came out in defense of Aubrey and I was just like, well look, I don't like the fact that anybody dies.
00:52:50.000 I don't like the fact that he died.
00:52:51.000 But the story is just, we had a couple lawyers on who broke it down for us and I'm like, oh okay, so this guy was a burglar.
00:52:56.000 Like, yes.
00:52:57.000 He's on camera committing a burglary.
00:52:58.000 Yes.
00:52:59.000 And so these guys were told by the police he was the burglar.
00:53:02.000 Yes.
00:53:02.000 So then when they saw him, they chased after him.
00:53:04.000 Yes.
00:53:05.000 And they were told that if they witnessed a felony, they could intervene to stop him.
00:53:09.000 Yes.
00:53:10.000 But the police told them to stand down while they came to arrive, and they didn't listen.
00:53:14.000 And I'm like, okay.
00:53:16.000 And then what happened?
00:53:17.000 The guy who filmed it got the remainder of his life in prison.
00:53:21.000 And I'm like, okay, something doesn't add up here.
00:53:23.000 This, this story doesn't make sense.
00:53:25.000 So it's not even a question of if, if it's like, I mean, the Ahmed Arbery case should be very clear cut in what happened, but they will weaponize it and they will lie about it and they will make it questionable.
00:53:36.000 Well, and I think that just like the left needs to keep a lot of their people in check when it comes to rioting, when it comes to destroying property and stuff like that, we also we do have a problem.
00:53:49.000 There have been plenty of kids who have lost their life unjustly.
00:53:51.000 And we need to talk about that as well.
00:53:53.000 Like the one I always think of is Tamir Rice, where it was like you have like a 13 year old kid playing with a toy gun.
00:54:00.000 And I think in law enforcement, I think Oh no, is there something I don't know?
00:54:04.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:54:05.000 Don't tell me Tamir Rice is really like a 45 year old man on the run from armed robbery.
00:54:09.000 No, I think he had removed the orange tip from the gun and he's 5 foot 10.
00:54:13.000 Well, so here's what I was going to ask the congressman from his law enforcement days is I feel like Even if it is not racism, right?
00:54:25.000 There is protocol.
00:54:27.000 Like, unless you feel like you are in immediate danger, you want to de-escalate.
00:54:33.000 If you can't de-escalate, you want to go hands-on.
00:54:35.000 If you can't go hands-on, you want to go with taser.
00:54:36.000 And then, in theory, pulling the gun should be last?
00:54:40.000 Or am I incorrect on that?
00:54:42.000 Well, this is what I do know.
00:54:44.000 Yes.
00:54:44.000 Is there's not a law enforcement officer in America that's going to wake up tomorrow morning and go to work evening shift or night shift that says, I want to go out and legally kill somebody.
00:54:54.000 I'm going to kill a kid.
00:54:55.000 I want to go out there and legally kill somebody.
00:54:57.000 It's absolutely ludicrous to think because that officer that has to take that life They're going to live with that for the rest of their life, even if it was a very dangerous situation.
00:55:05.000 Yes.
00:55:06.000 And the guy's pointing a gun at you.
00:55:08.000 And it's so difficult for law enforcement today because of the people that are mentally ill.
00:55:11.000 I mean, you have people that are mentally ill with all the drugs, the fentanyl coming across.
00:55:15.000 They're running around in streets naked and they're chasing officers, whether it's a small knife or even a piece of glass.
00:55:22.000 Yeah.
00:55:23.000 And they're running at the officer.
00:55:24.000 So the officers have a very difficult time today and they have to make very split, you know, second decisions.
00:55:29.000 Did you see the video, actually?
00:55:30.000 And Jamie, did you see this?
00:55:31.000 Where the news reporter goes to the police conflict training scenarios.
00:55:37.000 Did you see this one?
00:55:37.000 No.
00:55:38.000 And so the cop is like, here's what we're going to do.
00:55:40.000 We're going to give you this mock weapon that, you know, it fired like spitballs or something or paintballs.
00:55:45.000 And they were like, you need to figure out when is the appropriate, like how to deal with the situation.
00:55:48.000 Oh no.
00:55:49.000 He, so in the mock scenarios, he kills a guy several times and in one, he like sees a guy by a car and he's like, what are you doing?
00:55:57.000 And the guy walks around the car and he just pulls and shoots.
00:55:59.000 And then the, uh, the cop goes, why'd you do that?
00:56:01.000 And he's like, well, I, he was like, he was just walking around a car and he's like, but I, I didn't know what he was doing.
00:56:06.000 And I was worried.
00:56:06.000 It's like.
00:56:08.000 The reporter was like, in every circumstance he was given, the reporter actually killed the dude unjustly.
00:56:14.000 I think that just says something about reporters though, to be fair.
00:56:18.000 It's like journalists are an interesting breed.
00:56:19.000 There was one moment where the guy gets him in his face, he's like, what are you doing man?
00:56:22.000 Get out of here!
00:56:22.000 And then he puts two in his chest, mockingly, right?
00:56:25.000 And then the cop is like, what did you do?
00:56:27.000 You killed them all!
00:56:28.000 And then everyone starts filming and it's like... Okay, so you guys are going to hate me, and before the audience hates me, please follow me on Twitter at Jamie Kilstein.
00:56:35.000 Send him your hate there!
00:56:36.000 Subscribe to my podcast, Instagram at the Jamie Kilstein.
00:56:39.000 Isn't that more evidence for, one, more police training, and two, if you're going to own a gun?
00:56:45.000 So for me, I want to own a gun now, and I've been anti-gun, but I don't want to own a gun until I know Just like with Jiu Jitsu, just like that I can proficiently, that I can be taught and that I can train every week, especially under stress.
00:56:59.000 So isn't that also an example of why people should get training before they get a firearm?
00:57:06.000 And law enforcement actually maybe needs more training so that even though Tamir Rice, even though maybe the toy gun looked more realistic, that you're confident enough to assess the situation before you just open fire on who turns out to be a kid.
00:57:19.000 Everybody wants to go after law enforcement with these shootings.
00:57:21.000 How about train the crook, not the point the gun at the law enforcement?
00:57:24.000 Of course.
00:57:25.000 Look at the knucklehead the other day pulled up next to the traffic stop, right?
00:57:28.000 Did he have an axe or something?
00:57:29.000 Oh, an axe, yup.
00:57:29.000 And he went after the officer.
00:57:30.000 No, the officer was trying to back up, do the best he could to keep that separation, because it's 21 feet, fellas.
00:57:36.000 That's the number.
00:57:37.000 It's 21 feet.
00:57:37.000 But I think we can do both.
00:57:39.000 Like, this is the argument that happens.
00:57:41.000 I remember even when I was in super Wokey Wokey mode, when I would advocate for women to train jujitsu.
00:57:47.000 People would go, you're victim-blaming.
00:57:49.000 It's not their fault.
00:57:50.000 They shouldn't have to do anything.
00:57:51.000 You know, we need to teach men how not to rape.
00:57:53.000 And it's like, well, yes, we do.
00:57:55.000 But also, until people stop, training jujitsu will help you.
00:58:01.000 I'll finish with this on this.
00:58:01.000 Yeah, please.
00:58:02.000 I've said it and I'll say it again.
00:58:04.000 And that is, is that if you comply, if you comply, to all the criminals out there, the ones that carry guns, they shouldn't have guns, the felons, all these guys are going to go out.
00:58:13.000 My fans are tuning in.
00:58:14.000 If you comply, you will not die.
00:58:17.000 That's it.
00:58:18.000 It's very simple.
00:58:19.000 If you comply, you will not die.
00:58:21.000 And when you look at Michael Brown and all these others, I mean, Michael Brown's fingerprint was on the officer's weapon.
00:58:26.000 So if you're out there fighting and holding court on the side of the road, this and that, there's a high probability something could go wrong, and it could cost you your life.
00:58:34.000 So just comply.
00:58:35.000 If you comply, criminals, you will not die.
00:58:39.000 Yeah, a lot of these, uh, circumstances, you see people, uh, not, not, not just shootings.
00:58:45.000 They just are arguing with the cops and they don't understand that whether, whether you want it to be reality or not, it is.
00:58:52.000 If a cop is stopping you, you will gain nothing by fighting with him and talking with him.
00:58:58.000 That's the funniest thing.
00:58:59.000 It's like you're being arrested.
00:59:00.000 I love it when I hear these activists at Occupy, they were like, I have not been read my rights.
00:59:04.000 Like, And?
00:59:06.000 But they watch movies and they think a cop has to mirandize you because they watched you throw a brick at somebody?
00:59:11.000 These people don't know what they're talking about.
00:59:12.000 You keep your mouth shut.
00:59:14.000 Unfortunately, you know, there are instances where police have wrongly arrested people.
00:59:19.000 During Occupy Wall Street, I actually filmed the cops wrongly arrest somebody.
00:59:22.000 They lied in the police report, got a different officer to sign off on it, and I filmed it.
00:59:26.000 I want those officers charged criminally, but that doesn't happen.
00:59:30.000 That, to me, is the problem.
00:59:31.000 The issue isn't The issue is when an officer is breaking the law, violating their oath to the Constitution.
00:59:37.000 But if, this is what really frustrates me too, there's a video where there's like a black dude walking down the street and the cops are like, hey, come and talk to us for a minute, stop.
00:59:43.000 And he goes, no.
00:59:44.000 And they're like, you are being detained, stop.
00:59:46.000 And he goes, no.
00:59:47.000 And they fight with them and they're like, I can't believe the cops did that.
00:59:49.000 And it's like, dude.
00:59:51.000 Cops have a right to stop you to ask you questions.
00:59:54.000 They can detain you for a small amount of time.
00:59:57.000 It's the way the system goes.
00:59:59.000 You might not like it.
01:00:00.000 I get it.
01:00:01.000 But fighting with cops when they're like, what are you doing in this area?
01:00:05.000 It's not going to win anything for you.
01:00:06.000 You're not going to win on activism.
01:00:08.000 You're not going to win on the law.
01:00:09.000 All you're going to do is make everything worse.
01:00:14.000 Everyone agrees.
01:00:15.000 Yeah, well, it seems commonsensical though, right?
01:00:17.000 And people... So, I've been thinking about this and this is something I've... I don't think I've really discussed on this podcast.
01:00:24.000 Or, oh no, actually we did kind of talk about this the other day, but it makes sense in a very polarized environment where people have very different opinions that we're gonna end up...
01:00:33.000 Disagreeing on things at such a fundamental level that there are certain issues where we won't be able to reach a compromise, right?
01:00:39.000 And so, whether you're talking about abortion or homosexuality, or any of these other issues, when it comes to police, these are not matters of principle.
01:00:50.000 These are case-by-case situations that have to be investigated, right?
01:00:54.000 If you hear a police officer shot someone, it's not, I'm for that or I'm against that.
01:00:58.000 It's, all right, well, let's look into it and see what happened.
01:01:01.000 But for whatever reason, We are in a place in this country where people will hear that a police officer shot someone and they will immediately know that he is guilty.
01:01:10.000 And not only that he's guilty, but if the person was a minority, that he was guilty and he did it because that person was a minority.
01:01:17.000 That is insane.
01:01:19.000 There are stories that I think should be pointed out, but people need to be careful not to conflate the outliers and the accidents.
01:01:25.000 So there's that one famous moment where a guy gets pulled over, a black dude gets pulled over in a van.
01:01:29.000 He gets out of the vehicle.
01:01:30.000 He's like, the cop says, get out of the vehicle.
01:01:31.000 He gets out and the cop says, show me your ID.
01:01:33.000 And he goes, okay.
01:01:34.000 He turns back into the car and the cop just shoots him.
01:01:36.000 And the cop was like, he was going for something.
01:01:37.000 It's like, you told him to get the ID.
01:01:40.000 You have, uh, someone mentioned Philando Castile.
01:01:42.000 Are you familiar with this case?
01:01:44.000 He was, uh, legally able to carry a weapon.
01:01:46.000 The cop panicked and shot him.
01:01:48.000 There's another issue of like, he shouldn't have been shot, but he was also smoking, smoking pot while he was driving.
01:01:53.000 So that kind of muddied things up, but he shouldn't have been shot.
01:01:56.000 That's not a death penalty offense.
01:01:59.000 The issue is how do we deal with these accidents and outliers?
01:02:06.000 I think the challenge is we need to actually have a sit-down conversation.
01:02:08.000 We need to analyze what causes these and then figure out is there something we can do to make sure they don't happen while making sure cops are safe when they do their jobs.
01:02:16.000 There's not a cop that I've ever spoken to that agrees with what Derek Chabin did to George Floyd, that they would agree with that, and he should go to prison.
01:02:26.000 But, gentlemen, there are hundreds of thousands of stops made, up to millions, each and every month, each and every month on traffic stops.
01:02:35.000 And you're going to find law enforcement officers that make judgment calls, and they could be the wrong call.
01:02:40.000 You're going to get some that are going to get scared.
01:02:42.000 You talk about Uvalde.
01:02:44.000 Why did those guys not go into that building?
01:02:46.000 I don't know, but the point is it's a very, very difficult job, and everybody should go through what that media person went through.
01:02:52.000 You know, we have police academy training, Citizens Police Academy, it's a FATS training, and they go through and they realize it's just not as easy as it just seems.
01:03:00.000 So the point is that there's very, very few officer-involved shootings today.
01:03:05.000 I mean, come on, when you look at the number I think it's 375 million interactions per year, something like that.
01:03:10.000 police officers firing their weapons and when they do they're scrutinized before
01:03:15.000 the damn bullet even hits the you know it's just crazy. I think it's 375
01:03:20.000 million interactions per year something like that and out of that there were I
01:03:23.000 think what was it nine unarmed black men killed in 2019?
01:03:27.000 And even that is a little Because first of all, it's possible to shoot someone who's armed and for that to be unjustified.
01:03:33.000 But also, it's possible to shoot an unarmed person and for that to be justified.
01:03:37.000 So when you look into these unarmed cases, one of them from a couple years ago I was looking at was he was strangling an old lady and then went to attack the cop.
01:03:43.000 It's just insane.
01:03:44.000 Even if you hear the words, unarmed black man shot by police officer, you don't know anything about the story until you know something about the story.
01:03:50.000 You see that viral video where the guy's coming at the cop with a knife and he's backing away for like 30 seconds going, no, no!
01:03:57.000 But then the guy grabs his partner and he goes, no, no!
01:03:59.000 And then he starts shooting the guy and the guy gets shot and it gets back up.
01:04:03.000 He gets back up.
01:04:04.000 He gets shot because he's coming at the cop.
01:04:06.000 Then after being shot, he grabs his partner and then the cop shoots him in the head.
01:04:11.000 It's like people, you know what I think?
01:04:14.000 One of the issues is it's the algorithmic psychosis, I call it.
01:04:19.000 Let's say you're 10 years old, and the year is 2012, and you open up Facebook, and the only thing you're seeing is police brutality videos.
01:04:29.000 Remember that song where it's like, this is what you get when you call the cops, and it's like the guy rapping?
01:04:34.000 It's a really good song.
01:04:35.000 But it's like, Facebook recycles those videos because it gets clicks and people make money, so then other people recycle them.
01:04:42.000 Reddit was doing the same thing.
01:04:43.000 10 years goes by.
01:04:45.000 Where you're 10 years old watching these videos and for 10 years it's all you see.
01:04:49.000 You believe that is the world.
01:04:51.000 Oh bro, that's what I was telling you before.
01:04:52.000 That's why literally...
01:04:55.000 At 40 years old, it's like the first time I'm talking to conservatives or law enforcement.
01:05:02.000 And by the way, all the law enforcement friends I have said the exact same thing that you said about the George Floyd murder, where they were the most horrified.
01:05:13.000 And I think if we got rid of this us-versus-them mentality, then we could let Let the good cops speak up and be like, that shouldn't have happened.
01:05:24.000 And then they go continue to be good cops.
01:05:26.000 I think, I think there are issues, but I think with 375 million interactions, we're talking about like a microscopic fraction of, of error.
01:05:33.000 And so there's something else that I refer to as the scaling problem.
01:05:36.000 And I'll, I'll put it this way.
01:05:37.000 Most of you watch, if you watch consistently, you may have heard me say it.
01:05:40.000 Let's say iPhone gives out a hundred phones to these celebrities and 1% of those phones break.
01:05:46.000 Nobody cares.
01:05:47.000 One celebrity comes out and he's like, Hey, my phone broke.
01:05:49.000 And they're like, Oh, that sucks.
01:05:51.000 Let's say they give it a hundred million phones and 1% break.
01:05:53.000 Now online trending 1 million tweets, broken phone.
01:05:57.000 I'm like, Whoa, all these phones are broken.
01:05:58.000 The same, same failure rate.
01:06:00.000 So if you have, you know, 375 million police interactions, The acceptable margin of error decreases as time goes on.
01:06:11.000 If you had 100 cops in the United States, and 1% brutalized someone, that's one cop.
01:06:16.000 People would be like, it was just one cop, who cares?
01:06:18.000 I'm waiting for... You get 100 million cops, and now you got a million police brutality stories, people are gonna lose their mind, which means you've got to reduce the margin of error as you scale up the size.
01:06:26.000 That's impossible to do infinitely.
01:06:27.000 And Tim, it seems like the answer to this, this problem we have with police brutality, is that we're gonna defund them.
01:06:34.000 Matter of fact, not to fund them.
01:06:35.000 We're just going to completely abolish them.
01:06:37.000 But I think a majority, a solid majority of the American people support the men and women in blue.
01:06:44.000 It's that small group that's out there just raising cane and just causing problems.
01:06:49.000 Well, I was going to say, I can speak as someone who, you know, during the emotion of everything that happened with George Floyd, I was listening to a lot of the defund the police people until I moved to Texas and I started talking to more police.
01:07:05.000 And police were saying, hey dude, we don't like what happened either.
01:07:09.000 We actually, if you defund us, that's less training.
01:07:12.000 Right.
01:07:12.000 And we actually need more training.
01:07:14.000 And we need more resources.
01:07:16.000 And what you're gonna do if you deplete us, now we're working more, you know, I have a buddy on SWAT.
01:07:21.000 We're working more hours.
01:07:22.000 We're understaffed.
01:07:23.000 It's like, you think that's gonna help judgment?
01:07:25.000 Jamie, would you do your buddy's job for $70,000 a year?
01:07:28.000 Would I what?
01:07:29.000 Would you do his job, the law enforcement, the man on the SWAT team?
01:07:31.000 At this point, if I could train and if I could do it, yeah, but that's because I'm becoming a psychopath.
01:07:36.000 I was like, I would do it in a heartbeat.
01:07:39.000 But a lot of people on the left would not, if that's where you were going.
01:07:42.000 I just think people are leaving the industry.
01:07:44.000 People are leaving the profession because just the criticism and all the anti-police rhetoric out there.
01:07:50.000 And then you're going to lose good ones.
01:07:51.000 And I tell you, it's dangerous.
01:07:52.000 Well, you look at some of the cities now.
01:07:54.000 Look at the homicide rates, the crimes going up through the roof.
01:07:56.000 Why?
01:07:57.000 Well, just keep down with that, defund the police and all that, and you won't have police protecting your neighborhoods.
01:08:02.000 I tweeted this about Yuvaldi.
01:08:03.000 I said, this is what happens when you defund the police.
01:08:06.000 And then everyone was like, they were well-funded, you're wrong.
01:08:08.000 And it's just like, you need to understand the subtlety here.
01:08:11.000 When the police are demoralized, demonized, and attacked relentlessly, they're going to be like, I'm out.
01:08:17.000 No, don't care.
01:08:18.000 I do want to add, though, I'm a little salty on cops, considering what happened with COVID.
01:08:22.000 Because too many cops, for one, I'll say a few things.
01:08:25.000 Cops enforcing unconstitutional gun laws, I think, is a problem.
01:08:29.000 And during COVID, cops enforcing unconstitutional edict was a huge problem.
01:08:33.000 And the one thing that was a big wake-up call for conservatives, and why a lot of Trump supporters and conservatives soured on support for cops, was because we saw cafe owners, salon owners, while the Democrats— A ton of jam owners, yep.
01:08:44.000 Yeah, gym owners, Attila's gym.
01:08:46.000 When you had the Democrats releasing prisoners and inmates who commit violent crimes and then taking business owners and putting them back in, people got really pissed off about that.
01:08:57.000 I tell you, where did you see that though?
01:09:00.000 You saw that in these large municipalities where there are police departments that work for a chief of police who works for the mayor and the city council.
01:09:08.000 So you didn't see that with sheriffs.
01:09:10.000 You saw the sheriffs.
01:09:11.000 They're elected.
01:09:12.000 There could be some far-left sheriffs out there that would be doing that too, but a majority of the sheriff says, I'm not enforcing that.
01:09:19.000 I wasn't going to enforce mask mandates because I only answer to the people that elect me.
01:09:24.000 Chiefs of police have to answer to mayors.
01:09:26.000 And the mayor is going to tell the chief, you get your people to do it.
01:09:29.000 If you want to keep your job, you're going to do exactly what the heck I tell you to do.
01:09:32.000 That makes it a little bit more difficult as it relates to municipal police departments and sheriff's offices and who their boss is.
01:09:39.000 But that's a thing of big distinction.
01:09:40.000 There was one instance where a sheriff in Minnesota went and arrested a cafe owner for opening a cafe.
01:09:45.000 But again, I'm not going to point to one case and be like all the cops.
01:09:49.000 But a lot of people were just like, if this is what the cities are doing.
01:09:53.000 So my attitude is kind of like, if New York wants to abolish the cops, let them do it.
01:09:57.000 I don't live there.
01:09:58.000 Let the people see and you see how it's going.
01:10:00.000 But I do kind of think maybe an easy solution is cops should be elected.
01:10:05.000 You shouldn't have a chief of police who's appointed by a political individual who then has his job held over him.
01:10:09.000 We should vote for who the police chief is.
01:10:13.000 Well, they don't survive very long.
01:10:15.000 Chiefs of Police, their tenure as chief is because a new mayor comes in, he wants to bring in his own pet, you know, his own buddy.
01:10:20.000 Well, there's always a cop that they have to deal with who doesn't play by the rules and he's going to retire soon and then they get into it.
01:10:26.000 I was hoping someone picked up on that.
01:10:30.000 I was really proud of it, and as I was saying it, I was like, oh, it's dying!
01:10:33.000 But no, you said something earlier about how you think most people actually do support the police.
01:10:40.000 Part of why I would agree with that is because people as spineless as Joe Biden during his State of the Union address were willing to say, well, we need the police to be well-funded, which is what Joe Biden said during his State of the Union address.
01:10:52.000 No, don't defund them, defend them.
01:10:54.000 Like, oh, interesting.
01:10:56.000 Yes, yeah.
01:10:57.000 So this is becoming a safe position in the polls.
01:11:00.000 I'm sure it always has been, but it's something Democrats are even willing to say at this point.
01:11:03.000 Well, when people are watching violent crime skyrocket, some dude pushed a woman on the train tracks in New York.
01:11:09.000 People don't want to live there, man.
01:11:11.000 And it's not just in New York City, it's all the cities.
01:11:14.000 Crime is through the roof.
01:11:15.000 And they're moving to Texas.
01:11:17.000 You know, we gained two congressional seats.
01:11:19.000 New York lost one.
01:11:20.000 California lost one.
01:11:21.000 We're hoping they're not bringing that ideology into Texas.
01:11:24.000 I think we should interview them before we actually allow them to.
01:11:28.000 But they're moving into Texas and you look at, you know, we have constitutional carry.
01:11:31.000 I mean, we have just... Texas is one of the greatest states.
01:11:33.000 I'm proud to be from it.
01:11:36.000 I moved from LA to Austin and everybody I met was like, how are you going to vote?
01:11:40.000 How are you going to vote?
01:11:41.000 You're going to change.
01:11:42.000 You're going to come.
01:11:43.000 How are you going to vote?
01:11:44.000 But then the worst thing I saw was there's, you know, there's a bumper sticker that says, don't California my Texas.
01:11:51.000 And the first time I saw it, it was a dude with a Florida license plate.
01:11:53.000 And I'm like, come on.
01:11:54.000 Man.
01:11:55.000 You're in the most liberal city in the whole state.
01:11:57.000 Oh, I know.
01:11:58.000 Travis County.
01:11:58.000 I mean, it's horrible.
01:11:59.000 Austin is very, very, very different.
01:12:01.000 It's all just wellness podcasters.
01:12:04.000 It's terrible.
01:12:04.000 Yes, sir.
01:12:05.000 It is.
01:12:05.000 So here's the issue with Texas.
01:12:07.000 You know, everybody was telling me, like, you guys should move there.
01:12:09.000 You guys should move there.
01:12:09.000 And I was like, no way.
01:12:11.000 Because Elon Musk, he's cool, right?
01:12:13.000 But when he moves and builds a factory in Austin and relocates his California employees, those people are progressive.
01:12:19.000 They're liberals.
01:12:20.000 So it's not just about Joe Rogan and Elon Musk, it's about everyone they bring with them.
01:12:24.000 And then when, you know, Jamie, you end up moving there, you got Michael Malice, you get these prominent individuals, comedians and podcasters, then the periphery of those groups are going to come as well.
01:12:34.000 And then California moves to Texas.
01:12:37.000 People were like, no, it's good that these people are moving because they're helping Texas and they're making it red.
01:12:42.000 And I'm like, maybe.
01:12:44.000 But what's going to happen is a California conservative is a far left Texan.
01:12:49.000 And they come in and they'll vote Republican because they don't like California leftism, which is coming to Texas, and they'll make Texas moderate, not Republican.
01:13:00.000 Eventually, I mean, but look at 2020.
01:13:02.000 Trump won Texas by 600,000.
01:13:05.000 You saw the congressional race we heard, I think it was Texas 34.
01:13:08.000 First time ever in the history have we seen a female Mexican born in Mexico become a member of Congress.
01:13:17.000 So I think many of the, just the policies, the policies of the left with the border and everything else.
01:13:23.000 People are, I feel pretty, I think we're going to do very, very well in the state of Texas here in November.
01:13:28.000 It's going to be a bloodbath.
01:13:29.000 I am sick of Republicans playing identity politics.
01:13:32.000 I'm just kidding.
01:13:34.000 So what happens in 2022?
01:13:36.000 You think by November, it's going to be just like, you think the polls are wrong and it's going to be a crazy blowout we've never seen before?
01:13:43.000 A Republican supermajority or something?
01:13:44.000 Yeah, I think you'll see probably gaining 30, 35 seats.
01:13:47.000 We're now at about 212, 213.
01:13:50.000 We'll probably gain 30 to 35 seats.
01:13:53.000 And that's a big number.
01:13:55.000 I think it actually could end up being better than Republicans realize.
01:13:58.000 It could.
01:13:59.000 Because if the polls have been consistently skewed in favor of Democrats, and right now in the generic ballot Republicans are up about three points, they're probably up 10.
01:14:10.000 Yeah.
01:14:10.000 Then you look at, interestingly, five, I'm sorry, RealColorPolitics has the toss-up seats.
01:14:16.000 And I think 28 of 32 toss-ups are Democrat-held.
01:14:18.000 So it's just like, it might be way bigger than people realize.
01:14:22.000 I wouldn't be surprised if it was less than we realize as well. I don't know.
01:14:26.000 No idea.
01:14:26.000 There's still a few months to go here. So let's just wait and see what happens.
01:14:29.000 But let's talk beyond that, though. What do you think?
01:14:31.000 You think Joe Biden's going to run again?
01:14:33.000 Well, I hope he does.
01:14:34.000 I, I, she, she...
01:14:36.000 I really do.
01:14:37.000 And I'd send them $25.
01:14:38.000 If anybody knows his mailing address, I'll send them $25.
01:14:42.000 She's worse than he, but I think the Democrats are in trouble because I don't think they really have a candidate right now.
01:14:48.000 They got nobody.
01:14:49.000 That's why they're so desperate to try and bring Trump back to life.
01:14:52.000 Yeah, and I think right now our country, when you look at when Trump was president for the four years, I mean, we didn't have all these crises.
01:15:00.000 I mean, just name one or two.
01:15:02.000 I mean, COVID was difficult, but I thought he handled that quite well with the vaccine in record time.
01:15:06.000 But I think we need him back in 2024.
01:15:09.000 I think this guy, Donald Trump, in my humble opinion, loves this country more than just about anything.
01:15:14.000 But what about DeSantis?
01:15:15.000 Do you think Trump would be better?
01:15:17.000 I think DeSantis should keep his powder dry until 2028.
01:15:20.000 I mean, he's a relatively young man.
01:15:21.000 He's in his mid-40s or so, and he's a member of Congress.
01:15:24.000 I think he's been governor now for, what, four years?
01:15:26.000 And I just think in 2028 he'd be great.
01:15:29.000 And there's competition going back and forth with our governor in Texas as well.
01:15:33.000 Who's going to get that base?
01:15:34.000 Who's going to move a further right?
01:15:36.000 But I just think everybody should just bow out and just let Donald Trump come back.
01:15:40.000 He will be the Republican nominee, and he will beat anybody.
01:15:44.000 I want to hear two words from Donald Trump the moment he gets inaugurated.
01:15:48.000 You're fired.
01:15:50.000 Beautiful.
01:15:51.000 I want him to just fire all of these bureaucratic administrative state trash people in DC.
01:15:58.000 We have a lot of talent.
01:16:00.000 I mean, when you think of Ron DeSantis and the great things he's doing in Florida, people love him.
01:16:03.000 So I think we have a lot of good talent out there and we have people in the wings in the future.
01:16:08.000 The Democrats are just struggling.
01:16:10.000 Who?
01:16:10.000 Cory Booker?
01:16:11.000 I do like Bernie better than Newsom, to be fair.
01:16:13.000 What is it specifically about Trump that energizes you so much?
01:16:15.000 Bernie? Crazy Bernie? Give me a break.
01:16:16.000 I do like Bernie better than Newsom to be fair.
01:16:18.000 Well, Bernie, if there was any Democrat, I'd rather have Bernie, but I think Bernie's a
01:16:23.000 sellout so I think they're all good.
01:16:25.000 What is it specifically about Trump that energized you so much? Is it that he was an outsider
01:16:31.000 or is it, was it him before he ran for president or the way he governed for four years that
01:16:36.000 The way he ran, the way he ran, he had 14 people on that stage and he just picked them off one at a time.
01:16:43.000 He's just real.
01:16:44.000 He's, I thought he brought a lot of humor.
01:16:46.000 He was kind of funny.
01:16:47.000 I mean, yeah, nicknames and people don't like the way he calls names, but overall, and I tell you, when he come up with build that wall, build that wall, that really energized his campaign.
01:16:58.000 And so I just think that you can't buy him.
01:17:01.000 You can't buy Donald Trump.
01:17:02.000 He has all the money.
01:17:03.000 There's no special interest going to get him.
01:17:06.000 And just the way he ran the country, he deserves a third term.
01:17:11.000 Are you familiar with the tales from an economic hitman?
01:17:15.000 So you've heard of this?
01:17:17.000 Yeah.
01:17:17.000 If Luke were here, he'd be able to educate us properly.
01:17:19.000 But the general idea is this guy said that, you know, he worked for the intelligence agencies in the U.S.
01:17:23.000 And what they would do is they would go and try and bribe, you know, uh, a
01:17:28.000 country and say like, here's what the United States wants.
01:17:30.000 We'll give you all this stuff.
01:17:31.000 If you do it, the IMF will come up with loans.
01:17:32.000 And then if the president or the government said no, then they would try
01:17:36.000 and take out either politically or through assassinations.
01:17:39.000 And if that didn't work invasion, that's what he claimed.
01:17:41.000 I think about those stories and I'm like, whether or not they're true or not.
01:17:44.000 You look at Donald Trump, he gets elected.
01:17:47.000 They didn't think he would.
01:17:48.000 He has these meetings.
01:17:49.000 They probably were like, you know, Trump, play ball with us.
01:17:52.000 Here's what we're going to do.
01:17:53.000 And he went, no, we're doing it my way.
01:17:54.000 I don't want to do it.
01:17:56.000 And then they try to remove him via, you know, a legal process, Russiagate.
01:18:01.000 That doesn't work.
01:18:02.000 So what do they do now?
01:18:03.000 Executive action.
01:18:05.000 Now they're going with the January 6th, the law enforcement stuff, the accusations, the DOJ, the FBI raids.
01:18:10.000 So they've escalated to the point where they're like, we are going to use the force of violence against this man to stop him from running.
01:18:16.000 I gotta re-read that book now.
01:18:18.000 Yeah, it's crazy.
01:18:19.000 He was talking about, like, Panama and stuff.
01:18:20.000 And it wasn't, like, a small conspiracy book.
01:18:22.000 It was a New York Times bestseller.
01:18:24.000 It was, you know.
01:18:25.000 Right, right, right.
01:18:26.000 Listen, I got a lot of people, they don't like his tweets.
01:18:28.000 They don't like what he said.
01:18:30.000 They don't like maybe some of the stuff he said about John McCain and when he was a prisoner of war and all that other stuff.
01:18:34.000 And I try to, and I, well, just there's some other things, but I've always said, I said, you guys, you're not electing your neighbor, and we're not electing the Pope.
01:18:43.000 Right?
01:18:43.000 We're electing the President of the United States, and when you look at his policies and the results of those policies, Ukraine would be the prime example.
01:18:52.000 Obama went into, what, 2014?
01:18:53.000 Went into Crimea, right?
01:18:55.000 Nobody went into Ukraine under Donald Trump, did he?
01:18:58.000 Putin didn't go into Ukraine under Donald Trump.
01:19:00.000 And so you have our adversaries that are taking and exploiting our weakness, and we have weakness in our President today.
01:19:08.000 Donald Trump ran this, I mean, just look at how he kept Man, you know what would help?
01:19:13.000 kept trying to check. I mean, I just look at no invasion from Russia while Trump was president,
01:19:18.000 despite Crimea, that all of a sudden Trump gets in and Putin backs off.
01:19:22.000 I understand. So I just think, listen, I'm a Trump guy. I hope he comes back.
01:19:27.000 He doesn't drink, doesn't smoke. I think he's he's very healthy right now. I've had opportunities
01:19:32.000 to visit with him a couple of times. And and I think this country needs him more today than
01:19:37.000 ever. Man, you know, it would help you should tell him to come on the podcast.
01:19:41.000 I think we're actually setting that up.
01:19:42.000 There you go.
01:19:43.000 No, for real.
01:19:43.000 Here we go.
01:19:44.000 Yeah, we're off to go.
01:19:45.000 He'd like you guys.
01:19:46.000 Oh, yeah.
01:19:47.000 Oh, yeah.
01:19:47.000 We're fans.
01:19:48.000 We're good hang.
01:19:49.000 The thing about it is he wouldn't have to dress up.
01:19:50.000 Well, I don't know if Jamie's a fan.
01:19:52.000 I'm not wearing shoes.
01:19:52.000 I used to, but it wasn't appreciated.
01:19:54.000 Seamus, I'm just kidding, buddy.
01:19:57.000 By the way, if he agrees to be in the vlog, I'm a fan.
01:19:59.000 He gets my vote.
01:20:00.000 Oh, that would be great.
01:20:01.000 Get Trump to do like a simple bit.
01:20:03.000 I mean, he was in Home Alone, you know.
01:20:04.000 Yeah, that'd be cool if he was in New York.
01:20:08.000 So, I don't... A lot of people who are Trump zealots, you know, they're just like, Trump's the best, he can do nothing wrong.
01:20:15.000 I'm like, Trump's pretty good.
01:20:16.000 He's alright.
01:20:17.000 I didn't vote for him in 2016.
01:20:18.000 In 2022, I did.
01:20:19.000 I said, you can't deny the successes he's had.
01:20:21.000 Getting rid of the Trans-Pacific Partnership was the right move.
01:20:24.000 Every activist in the world... Okay, every activist in the United States were complaining about TPP.
01:20:30.000 Then Trump comes in and all of a sudden they're like, actually it's a good thing.
01:20:32.000 And I'm like, what?
01:20:34.000 Like during Occupy Wall Street, like all throughout everyone's like warning about this Trans-Pacific Partnership.
01:20:39.000 Trump gets in and gets rid of it.
01:20:40.000 Donald Trump, no new wars.
01:20:43.000 Starts bringing our troops back from the Middle East.
01:20:44.000 These are good things.
01:20:46.000 I was talking to someone and they told me, It was all nonsense.
01:20:49.000 He's trying to be buddy-buddy with dictators and blah blah blah.
01:20:52.000 And I was like, what does that mean?
01:20:53.000 And they're like him and Kim Jong-un.
01:20:55.000 And then I said, Donald Trump crossed the DMZ into North Korea with no security detail.
01:21:01.000 And they're like, yeah.
01:21:03.000 And I'm like, that is one of the most profound acts of leadership someone could take to try and end a war.
01:21:11.000 They could have captured the President of the United States, and they could have done whatever they wanted, and Trump walked in with Kim Jong-un and walked back, and I was just, I was shocked.
01:21:21.000 Wow.
01:21:21.000 It's like, if Dennis Rodman can do it, I'm gonna do it.
01:21:23.000 But I mean, in all seriousness, I mean, you're the President of the United States, walking into what should be perceived as hostile territory, I'm like, this is amazing!
01:21:30.000 That's, yeah.
01:21:30.000 Amazing!
01:21:31.000 I gotta vote for this guy.
01:21:32.000 And then, what happened was, his second-term agenda came out, and I was like, school choice, get rid of these, uh, cult, these critical race theory garbage stuff, and I'm just like, This dude's done well.
01:21:42.000 He deserves it.
01:21:43.000 I talk about this all the time.
01:21:44.000 I scream about it on my podcast and Twitter and all that stuff.
01:21:47.000 People need principles, not teams, right?
01:21:51.000 If you were mad when George Bush had drone strikes that killed civilians, you should be mad when Obama did it.
01:21:58.000 If you were mad- When Trump did it.
01:21:59.000 Yeah.
01:22:01.000 If you thought Trump was creepy with women, you should think that Bill Clinton was creepy with women, right?
01:22:07.000 And Joe Biden.
01:22:08.000 Yeah, it's with children.
01:22:09.000 Yeah.
01:22:10.000 I mean, there are so many instances where, and that doesn't mean suddenly you have to disavow them.
01:22:15.000 That doesn't mean you have to go from Democrat to Republican or Republican to Democrat.
01:22:18.000 It just means have the political courage to stand in your conviction and call out your side when your side is wrong in order to make your side better and hold it accountable.
01:22:29.000 And then we can actually have a more honest political discourse.
01:22:32.000 One million percent, and I really just want to hit on this point.
01:22:35.000 I made sort of a little joke alluding to it, but the president of the United States sniffs children.
01:22:41.000 And we're used to it, like we don't think of it as being that out of the ordinary.
01:22:45.000 It's just, you know, it's almost become a hackneyed punchline, but the president sniffs children.
01:22:52.000 He gropes them too.
01:22:54.000 It's disgusting.
01:22:55.000 Wasn't there a video where he pinched a little girl's nipple or something?
01:22:57.000 What?
01:22:58.000 It appears that most people, too, they look at him like a grandfather figure, and they almost kind of feel for him, like, this is Grandpa Joe, you know?
01:23:05.000 And it's almost like the excuses.
01:23:07.000 It's so weird.
01:23:08.000 Yeah.
01:23:09.000 I just think about our country.
01:23:12.000 Our country is begging for leadership.
01:23:13.000 Yeah.
01:23:14.000 And I think we had that with Trump.
01:23:16.000 We don't have that with this current administration.
01:23:19.000 He's let around by his nose.
01:23:20.000 And we're paying the price.
01:23:21.000 We're paying the price for it.
01:23:23.000 I think in a lot of ways DeSantis is better.
01:23:25.000 But I don't know if DeSantis would come in and do the you're fired thing.
01:23:29.000 That's the big issue, right?
01:23:30.000 Yeah.
01:23:30.000 So with Ron DeSantis, he's proven his leadership in Florida.
01:23:34.000 He's done a really great job.
01:23:35.000 And I think he'd be a fantastic president.
01:23:37.000 I'm not so sure on foreign policy that's yet to be seen.
01:23:40.000 But I'd imagine if he did get in, if he were to win in 2024, if he ran and won, he would not go, you're fired.
01:23:47.000 And he would not get rid of all these really awful people.
01:23:49.000 I think Trump He knows.
01:23:51.000 He's learned his lesson.
01:23:53.000 And he was like, I trusted some bad people.
01:23:55.000 If he gets in in 2024, it is going to be beautiful as the pink slips start getting handed out.
01:24:01.000 And then you see people walking out of the buildings in D.C.
01:24:04.000 and going into the unemployment line.
01:24:07.000 I think Trump's going to do it.
01:24:07.000 I don't think DeSantis would do it.
01:24:09.000 Who would have ever thought our country could be destroyed in 17 months?
01:24:15.000 17, 18 months.
01:24:15.000 He's destroyed this country.
01:24:17.000 It's going to take a full four years of Donald Trump to come back and try to fix these issues.
01:24:21.000 Oil and gas is so important in Texas.
01:24:23.000 Now you have $5 fuel, inflation 8.5%.
01:24:27.000 Oh, sorry. I was gonna say I just love the meme where the left says Joe Biden doesn't control gas
01:24:35.000 prices, idiot, but Joe Biden's going to enact policies to lower gas prices. It's like, what?
01:24:41.000 So can he enact policies to make them higher? No, but he can make them lower. Okay, dude, whatever.
01:24:46.000 And so I try to keep a sort of a larger perspective in.
01:24:51.000 And so, you know, under the Obama administration, I remember thinking like, I really, really don't like Obama.
01:24:56.000 But you know, we had FDR, we had Woodrow Wilson, maybe Obama isn't the worst president we've had.
01:25:01.000 Joe Biden may actually be the worst president in all of American history.
01:25:05.000 I mean, at least the really, really bad ones like Wilson and FDR knew what day of the week it was.
01:25:10.000 Jimmy Carter will appreciate that. Yeah, yeah, Jimmy Carter.
01:25:14.000 I mean, even Carter, I would say, I would say Biden's worse than Carter. Granted, I don't
01:25:18.000 know as much about Jimmy Carter, but he's really bad. I mean, there's something, usually
01:25:23.000 when we rank a president, we're just sort of looking at them as a set of policies.
01:25:28.000 That's what we seem to do nowadays, which is kind of bizarre because this is a person who's supposed to be a leader and character does mean something when you're a leader.
01:25:35.000 But with Joe Biden, it's not just that all of his policies have been horrible for the country.
01:25:39.000 It's that He is experiencing serious cognitive decline.
01:25:44.000 Like the man's brain doesn't work.
01:25:46.000 Let's do it.
01:25:46.000 We got this story from the New York Post.
01:25:48.000 Oh, you were so excited about this.
01:25:49.000 You take your seat.
01:25:51.000 Very specific cheat sheet reminds Biden how to act.
01:25:53.000 Look at this.
01:25:55.000 Why did he hold it up?
01:25:57.000 You have to know you're the president.
01:25:58.000 Joe Biden was speaking, he was holding up a card and it says, you enter the Roosevelt room and say hello to participants.
01:26:05.000 You take your seat.
01:26:07.000 Like you is in big, bold letters and yours is in big, bold letters.
01:26:11.000 Like, dude, there's something wrong with this guy's brain.
01:26:13.000 You tell Ukraine that the funds will be withheld.
01:26:17.000 Maybe someone played a joke on him at number five was you hold card up to camera.
01:26:21.000 And he's like, okay.
01:26:24.000 You know, you think about Joe and his cognitive, you know, and I tell you what, there's one person I'm really, really frustrated with.
01:26:32.000 And I think that it's Jill Biden.
01:26:35.000 Listen, she'd been married to this guy for years.
01:26:37.000 She knows him better than anybody.
01:26:39.000 Would you like to throw in the towel?
01:26:40.000 Well, I'm just saying that, you know what, I don't know if she wanted to be the first lady so bad and have that power, or if she wanted to make sure that her husband reached that pinnacle, but I'm really frustrated with her because she knows her husband better than anybody, and she knew he was going to be like this, but she didn't care.
01:26:58.000 And now the American people are paying for this thing.
01:27:00.000 Because of what?
01:27:01.000 Because she wanted to see her husband accomplish something, or maybe this was more about her becoming, you know, the first lady.
01:27:07.000 She's a doctor.
01:27:09.000 Shameful.
01:27:09.000 That's right.
01:27:10.000 Shameful.
01:27:10.000 I mean, the Democrats hated Trump so much.
01:27:13.000 I remember everybody I used to hang out with, we weren't fans of Biden.
01:27:18.000 Biden was part of the corporate left, and suddenly these same people were doing everything in their power to elect a guy who they knew.
01:27:25.000 We knew.
01:27:26.000 I didn't vote for him, but we knew would not be good.
01:27:30.000 Hillary Clinton.
01:27:30.000 I didn't know it would be this bad.
01:27:32.000 Yeah, well, Clinton, same deal.
01:27:36.000 Hating the Clintons forever!
01:27:37.000 And now you're acting like you're a sexist if you're not gonna vote for her.
01:27:40.000 Occupy Wall Street was anti-Obama.
01:27:43.000 The people down there were like, Obama's trash.
01:27:45.000 And then it's like 2016 comes around and they're like, we've forgotten all about that.
01:27:48.000 We like him now.
01:27:49.000 Hope and change, baby.
01:27:51.000 Yep, yep.
01:27:52.000 Yeah, no, that's a very good point about Joe Biden, though.
01:27:54.000 I mean, she should know, right?
01:27:55.000 This man has literally lost his mind.
01:27:57.000 It's just, why did they pick him?
01:28:00.000 It's insane.
01:28:00.000 Dr. Jill, I'm sorry.
01:28:03.000 They used to joke about Reagan, and they would say, you know, towards the end of Reagan's presidency, he experienced some cognitive decline, and that was sort of a little jab they'd make at Republicans.
01:28:12.000 Look, a person you elected back when they were mentally healthy ended up experiencing cognitive decline.
01:28:17.000 How irresponsible is your party that he wasn't immediately removed from power?
01:28:20.000 During the primaries, Joe Biden was clearly demented or suffering with Alzheimer's.
01:28:26.000 Yo, his teeth fell out.
01:28:27.000 His brain was not functioning at like any point.
01:28:30.000 And I say this like, look, if I was discussing any other senior citizen experiencing cognitive decline, I would probably take a more somber approach to this.
01:28:39.000 But this is the president, and they knew this.
01:28:41.000 They put the man in this position knowing his brain does not work.
01:28:46.000 Stop being ageist and ableist, Seamus.
01:28:49.000 No, we're trying to defend them.
01:28:51.000 Oh, that's true.
01:28:52.000 Yeah, whenever they show like Obama, and they're like, this is how he looked in the beginning of his presidency, and then they show him with gray hair, it's like, yo, Joe Biden started looking rough.
01:29:00.000 Where does that go?
01:29:01.000 Seamus, you're right.
01:29:01.000 I mean, this is the leader of the free world that we have as our President of the United States.
01:29:06.000 And the media covers for him, you know?
01:29:08.000 I mean, we have gas at five bucks.
01:29:10.000 I mean, I've said it how many times, and he's taking walks on the beach, but he's got to have his handlers.
01:29:15.000 If it's not the bunny rabbit during Easter, it's the grandchildren and the others saying, come on, honey, we got to go.
01:29:21.000 We got to pull you over here.
01:29:22.000 Real quick, I just want to give a shout out to The Onion for this article.
01:29:27.000 Stress of presidency already ages Biden ten years.
01:29:32.000 Oh my.
01:29:34.000 You gotta give him credit where credit is due.
01:29:36.000 I guess so.
01:29:37.000 You know, he should really be ashamed of this inflation and gas being five bucks a gallon.
01:29:41.000 I think it was like two cents a gallon when he was a kid, right?
01:29:44.000 They were still dinosaurs when he was a kid, to be fair.
01:29:46.000 They were still walking around.
01:29:47.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:29:49.000 Had been crushed into crude oil, but no, it's shameful.
01:29:52.000 Dinosaurs aren't oil shameless.
01:29:54.000 I know, it's the plant life, but people say dinosaurs are the funny little punchline.
01:29:58.000 We don't support the fake news on this show.
01:30:00.000 I know, you're right.
01:30:00.000 Thank you, thank you, Ministry of Truth.
01:30:02.000 You're going to sing me a musical about it?
01:30:05.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:30:07.000 My joke was that I didn't mean to spread misinformation about oil.
01:30:10.000 I'm saying that Joe Biden is old, all right?
01:30:13.000 He's old, everybody.
01:30:16.000 Yeah, Tim is getting on me for being factually inaccurate when I'm morally correct.
01:30:21.000 Well, I was reading Snopes earlier and I was just thinking, like, I shouldn't let Seamus get away with these jokes.
01:30:26.000 This misinformation.
01:30:27.000 This misinformation, yeah.
01:30:28.000 I know, it's troubling.
01:30:29.000 And I think, you know, there's something to be said for the fact that no, Joe Biden is not the sole culprit here, but he was part of the establishment that led to all of these problems.
01:30:38.000 It's not like he's just some fall guy who had nothing to do with this.
01:30:41.000 That card he's holding up, we are literally in Weekend at Biden's.
01:30:45.000 I know.
01:30:45.000 Yeah.
01:30:46.000 It's true.
01:30:47.000 No, that's what it is.
01:30:48.000 They're holding up his...
01:30:50.000 Someone was just like...
01:30:55.000 It wouldn't be funny if someone was always standing next to him.
01:30:58.000 Just like unreasonably close.
01:31:00.000 You're like, what's going on?
01:31:01.000 You can't see their arm.
01:31:03.000 What was his one word that described America?
01:31:05.000 Do you remember this?
01:31:08.000 Guys, maybe that's why he's getting so close to the kids, is the kids are whispering him his lines he forgot.
01:31:15.000 Oh, I see what it is.
01:31:16.000 So there you go.
01:31:17.000 I figured it out.
01:31:18.000 You're welcome, Joe Biden.
01:31:19.000 I like that.
01:31:20.000 Let's see the the press secretary tells that oh here we go it's nothing that they can yeah Hold on guys this is important Because you guys need to know you guys need to here we go you ready that nation that can be defined in a single word I was gonna put him What is... And then he ends up saying at the foothills of the Himalayas.
01:31:56.000 What?
01:31:57.000 Oh, this poor old guy, man.
01:31:59.000 Here's the thing, I would feel bad for him if, like, alright, first of all, if he wasn't a horrible person doing horrible things who should have stepped down.
01:32:07.000 And also, if we were being gaslit about this, he has a speech impediment, excuse me?
01:32:14.000 That's what a lisp does?
01:32:15.000 No.
01:32:15.000 Wrong.
01:32:16.000 Incorrect.
01:32:17.000 His brain is not functioning.
01:32:19.000 Also, he's a plagiarist.
01:32:20.000 Some British politician probably had this gaffe first.
01:32:23.000 That'd be funny if it happened.
01:32:25.000 Why are they even talking about a second term though?
01:32:28.000 I don't think he's denied it.
01:32:29.000 He's claiming he's going to run.
01:32:31.000 Yeah.
01:32:32.000 So think about that now.
01:32:33.000 The current condition he's in in another three years.
01:32:35.000 That is insane.
01:32:36.000 That is insane.
01:32:37.000 Yes.
01:32:38.000 Are they just hoping that this country is so tribalized that people will vote for him?
01:32:42.000 Well, that's what happened the first time.
01:32:44.000 Well, the first time people hated Trump.
01:32:46.000 Maybe they're hoping they can do a repeat, but I really doubt it.
01:32:48.000 I think the five bucks per gallon thing really irked some people.
01:32:52.000 Yeah.
01:32:53.000 I like the joke I was making earlier.
01:32:54.000 I really doubt you're gonna go to a gas station and someone's gonna be, like, screaming.
01:32:58.000 And it turns out they're screaming over January 6th.
01:32:59.000 January 6th, yeah.
01:33:02.000 No, it's...
01:33:05.000 No, there was actually breaking news.
01:33:07.000 Biden plagiarized his gaffe from a British politician.
01:33:10.000 The one thing we can say about England is...
01:33:15.000 Trinidad and Nassau but a pressure.
01:33:19.000 Do you remember that one, Troy?
01:33:21.000 No, I can't say I have, but I do know this, is that they actually feel that he has a chance when he comes back.
01:33:28.000 I really believe that.
01:33:30.000 That if he would seek another term, and if you look at what happened with the election in 2020 and the way that thing was handled and managed, and you start giving everybody ballots, You could see, I mean- I wasn't- I'll need an effective strategy to mobilize true international pressure!
01:33:48.000 Oh boy.
01:33:49.000 I'll need an effective strategy to mobilize true international pressure!
01:33:54.000 No, no, the best part is, they're clapping.
01:33:57.000 Like when he says it.
01:33:57.000 Yes!
01:33:58.000 We need true international pressure!
01:34:00.000 He said, Batacaf care.
01:34:02.000 He's loud there.
01:34:03.000 He's trying to demonstrate strength by being very vocal and like he's a hard charger.
01:34:07.000 They probably think you're nalescent.
01:34:08.000 I think Putin saw that and he's like, I can have you, Craig.
01:34:10.000 Next Nell Ressent, Bada Kefkar, Trudonoshabba da Pressure, and Asitifogosifoga.
01:34:16.000 They probably think it's new progressive terms and they don't want to get in trouble if they
01:34:20.000 It's like Latina X. They're like, okay, that's a new one.
01:34:24.000 Jake Paul said he created a new incomprehensible language.
01:34:28.000 Old man is just up there muttering to himself and people are clapping for it.
01:34:34.000 Yeah.
01:34:34.000 That's why I'm like, I don't know.
01:34:35.000 I'm kind of, I'm kind of a pessimistic on this one.
01:34:37.000 He's an innovator of language, baby.
01:34:39.000 The American people are going to vote for that.
01:34:42.000 That's scary.
01:34:43.000 Well, the polls have showed, what is he?
01:34:46.000 32, 33%.
01:34:46.000 And so the real question is the way 30, I got to talk to those.
01:34:52.000 I know, I know.
01:34:52.000 That's what I'm saying.
01:34:53.000 Who are these 30%?
01:34:54.000 Who are they?
01:34:55.000 Where are they?
01:34:55.000 And what are they thinking?
01:34:57.000 I cannot imagine 30% of the country going, you know, this guy's doing a great job.
01:35:01.000 They don't drive cars.
01:35:02.000 They're the ones who are all working at the mainstream media.
01:35:05.000 We should do a bit where, you know, Jamie's just like, I actually think should I not shop at Precious a good thing?
01:35:11.000 Yeah.
01:35:11.000 What is that?
01:35:12.000 And be like, it's a good thing?
01:35:13.000 It's a great thing.
01:35:14.000 It's a great thing.
01:35:14.000 And it's, uh, it's diversive.
01:35:16.000 And Batacav care.
01:35:17.000 We love Batacav care.
01:35:19.000 I've always supported Batacav care.
01:35:20.000 You know, I mean, when Noam Chomsky talked about out of business care, I supported it then, I'll support it now.
01:35:26.000 But I wonder if, just like, how do they answer this?
01:35:28.000 Do they act like it doesn't exist?
01:35:29.000 Yeah, well, no.
01:35:30.000 They say he has a speech impediment.
01:35:31.000 He has a lisp.
01:35:32.000 That's what they constantly claim.
01:35:34.000 When people make fun of him for the way he talks, they go... Remember when he kept saying Libya instead of Syria?
01:35:37.000 When... Yes.
01:35:38.000 Yeah, also... That's scary.
01:35:40.000 Again, Commander-in-Chief of the military probably shouldn't be mislabeling countries like that.
01:35:44.000 Little bit frightening.
01:35:45.000 Little bit concerning.
01:35:45.000 He's gonna be like, we got a bomb!
01:35:47.000 He's gonna be talking to the Joint Chiefs, but we got a bomb, Libya!
01:35:49.000 And they're like, are you sure?
01:35:50.000 Yeah!
01:35:51.000 And then they're like, okay.
01:35:52.000 And then later they're like, Why is the U.S.
01:35:55.000 engaged in a military conflict in Libya?
01:35:56.000 And Biden's gonna be like, oh no, I meant Syria.
01:36:00.000 The media corrects for him.
01:36:01.000 They translate for him.
01:36:02.000 They're like, we dropped the bomb on Libya.
01:36:05.000 He's like, go pick it up, man.
01:36:06.000 Drop it in Syria instead.
01:36:07.000 Biden, why'd you sniff that kid?
01:36:09.000 I have a lisp.
01:36:10.000 Yeah, come on, man.
01:36:11.000 He has a lisp, you heartless person.
01:36:13.000 Yeah, they will like scold you.
01:36:14.000 It is hilarious that people have been scolded for criticizing him.
01:36:18.000 I can't remember who this was.
01:36:19.000 It was on one of these news networks, you know, MSNBS or CNN or whatever.
01:36:22.000 And they're going, How how how do you think children with lisps are going to feel when they see the way you're making fun of the president or the Potential president for the way he speaks.
01:36:32.000 It's like what that's not No, a lisp does not make you say poor kids are just as bright and talented as white kids That's not how a lisp works.
01:36:38.000 Well, well now according to the DSM six Let's go to Super Chats!
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01:37:10.000 Matthew Reckamp says, new report on Yuvaldi.
01:37:13.000 I swear, the more I hear about what those officers did, or more specifically didn't do, the more I'm convinced they should be charged not as accessories, but as accomplices.
01:37:22.000 I was saying this before, I was saying either on accident or on purpose, they helped this guy.
01:37:26.000 It's great, because they were stopping people.
01:37:29.000 Daryl Lyon says, first and obligatory civil war.
01:37:36.000 Micro Sapple says, you never told us about the anti-Ben Shapiro doorknob.
01:37:41.000 So when we got, uh, we had to evacuate because we had a credible threat.
01:37:45.000 That's not right.
01:37:45.000 So we turn on the wide shot and people notice the doorknob is at the top of the door.
01:37:49.000 And it's actually for a really simple reason.
01:37:51.000 So that it's not in the camera frame on the show.
01:37:56.000 But people were calling it the anti-Ben Shapiro doorknob because it's very tall.
01:38:00.000 That's not right.
01:38:04.000 But these are people who are like fans of Ben Shapiro.
01:38:06.000 Okay.
01:38:07.000 Smart guy, smart guy.
01:38:08.000 But I will say this.
01:38:09.000 I'll tell you this.
01:38:12.000 When you see all these memes where they're saying, like, Ben is 5'4", 5'5", I actually believed it.
01:38:18.000 And then I met him and he's like just a little bit shorter than I am.
01:38:21.000 And I'm 5'10".
01:38:22.000 And so he's like 5'8 or something.
01:38:24.000 Well, Jamie, you look up to him.
01:38:25.000 He's taller than me.
01:38:26.000 Yeah.
01:38:26.000 I was furious when I found out that.
01:38:29.000 I can still beat him up, but I'm still not happy.
01:38:30.000 He doesn't have ears like you.
01:38:32.000 He doesn't have ears like me.
01:38:32.000 No, sir, he doesn't.
01:38:33.000 Thank you, sir.
01:38:34.000 Yes, sir.
01:38:34.000 We were, uh, I was talking with Jamie and then you said something about him being short.
01:38:37.000 I'm like, actually, he's kind of, he's like average size.
01:38:39.000 He's like, he's like 5'8 and a half or something.
01:38:41.000 And you were like, he's taller than me.
01:38:42.000 I was like, I guess I am below average size.
01:38:44.000 Cool.
01:38:45.000 Dude, I gotta say, your fans, I've been interacting more on Twitter than I usually do, or my mental health says I should.
01:38:53.000 Your fans are, even when they're poking fun at me, legitimately the funniest fans I've ever dealt with.
01:38:58.000 They're hysterical.
01:38:59.000 Good engagement.
01:39:00.000 Good engagement.
01:39:02.000 Alright, let's see.
01:39:04.000 What do we got?
01:39:05.000 I'm not your buddy guy says you've mentioned the shadow campaign numerous times when analyzing Did you ask yourself if signature verification is removed?
01:39:12.000 What would this cause?
01:39:13.000 Also, why trust Barr when he's the same man who said Epstein offed himself and oversaw DOJ when Epstein abused children?
01:39:20.000 Hold on.
01:39:21.000 What does all of that mean buddy?
01:39:22.000 It's a bit esoteric.
01:39:25.000 This is one of the biggest challenges with all of these big stories, especially with Epstein, is the average person doesn't know about it.
01:39:31.000 So I would say the shadow campaign was a Time magazine article where they claimed that a bunch of powerful interests got together to defeat Donald Trump in 2020.
01:39:39.000 If they remove signature verification, it would mean that there would be a higher rate of acceptance among mail-in votes.
01:39:47.000 And why trust Barr?
01:39:48.000 I don't.
01:39:49.000 Not a big fan.
01:39:51.000 But what more can I say?
01:39:53.000 I think we want to focus on encouraging people to vote, especially now in the midterms.
01:39:58.000 Demoralization and telling people, you know, that there's widespread fraud and stuff.
01:40:03.000 It's just going to make it, it's going to convince people not to be involved.
01:40:06.000 Tell people to just go out and vote because no matter what, voting helps your side.
01:40:11.000 It helps your, it's just, you got to do it.
01:40:13.000 You got to do it.
01:40:14.000 Um, my view of that, just without, you know, beating a dead horse, the shadow campaign talked about the legal efforts they took.
01:40:21.000 You might not like what they did.
01:40:23.000 I certainly don't, but it was clever lawfare over a year.
01:40:27.000 It wasn't weird stories about the CIA in Germany and like watermarked ballots or Chinese ballots or anything like that.
01:40:34.000 I think it was just, they pulled out all the stops and said, what legal hurdles do we need to overcome to make sure we get as many ballots in for our guy?
01:40:41.000 And they did it and it worked for them.
01:40:43.000 I genuinely believe people voted for Joe Biden because people did not like Donald Trump.
01:40:49.000 Alright, but let's just, you know, read some more Superchats.
01:40:52.000 Matthew Thomas says, I'm getting real tired of the Republicans holding the moral high ground.
01:40:56.000 If they don't return in kind when they get power, I'll only vote Libertarian from here out.
01:41:01.000 Dems contested every election lost.
01:41:04.000 Isn't that true?
01:41:04.000 Like, every single Republican election over the past, like, 60 years.
01:41:07.000 Well, they've objected to three, back to Bush.
01:41:11.000 They objected to three.
01:41:13.000 They certainly did.
01:41:14.000 Which is a threat to our democracy, by the way.
01:41:16.000 Goes without saying.
01:41:18.000 Well, their democracy is not.
01:41:20.000 That's why they say this.
01:41:22.000 Because when they do, it's not a threat to their democracy.
01:41:24.000 It empowers it.
01:41:25.000 Our constitutional republic.
01:41:27.000 This is a threat to our constitutional republic.
01:41:30.000 Yes.
01:41:31.000 Heather V says, hey Tim hired him back.
01:41:33.000 How did the interview with Vice go?
01:41:34.000 LOL.
01:41:35.000 Enjoying you on Cast Plus.
01:41:38.000 Look, if you watch the vlog, while I've said I've been having a good time here on the podcast, would I like to be hired back at some of these left-leaning places that aren't taking my calls?
01:41:50.000 You know, watch the vlog and find out.
01:41:52.000 Did I briefly think that Vice wanted an interview?
01:41:56.000 If you want to watch the first episode of the vlog, I believe it is called Woke journalist tries to cancel transphobic skater to work at Vice.
01:42:03.000 And did I think it worked?
01:42:04.000 Maybe.
01:42:05.000 Did I curse off the staff and leave the house saying I'm never coming back?
01:42:08.000 And was it a setup by Vice?
01:42:09.000 Perhaps.
01:42:10.000 Again, I would go to youtube.com slash cascastle and catch up on the vlog.
01:42:15.000 I'm happy to be here tonight, but that's mainly just because I'm drinking.
01:42:19.000 Here's a good one.
01:42:19.000 This is crazy.
01:42:20.000 GatorBait says, Is that considered a death threat?
01:42:22.000 Wow!
01:42:22.000 by Facebook and was memorialized due to someone reporting my account saying I was dead.
01:42:28.000 Is that considered a death threat?
01:42:30.000 Wow.
01:42:31.000 Wow, that's crazy.
01:42:34.000 They just memorialize your page and you're alive?
01:42:36.000 Can you imagine getting a notification being like, sorry, you're dead?
01:42:39.000 You're like, is this happening?
01:42:41.000 I don't think they'd give you one.
01:42:41.000 I think they would just shut it down and lock you out and be like, cause you're dead.
01:42:44.000 Sorry you died.
01:42:45.000 Wow.
01:42:46.000 You know what the creepiest thing is?
01:42:47.000 They're talking about using your Facebook profile to create an AI chat bot of you.
01:42:51.000 No.
01:42:52.000 Yeah, so like your grandpa dies, and then you can go on Facebook and talk to your grandpa, and it'll give you answers.
01:42:58.000 It'll learn from what you tell it, and it will speak back based on its memories and photos and comments and all that stuff.
01:43:03.000 And your grandfather will say, I think you should purchase Nabisco products because they're the highest quality.
01:43:09.000 The great advice I always get from pops.
01:43:10.000 Facebook is good.
01:43:12.000 Can your grandpa vote?
01:43:14.000 Oh yeah, that's the real question.
01:43:16.000 And then he says something like, you know, in my time here I've realized Mark Zuckerberg's a pretty cool guy.
01:43:22.000 You're like, gee grandpa, I've never heard you say that before.
01:43:24.000 Stop getting mad at him for building homes in Hawaii.
01:43:26.000 It's not actually a chatbot behind the other side, it's Mark Zuckerberg and he's typing.
01:43:29.000 Mark Zuckerberg rules.
01:43:31.000 He is great, he is a handsome boy.
01:43:33.000 All right.
01:43:35.000 Gage Gosnell says, Nebraska here would love to see a Timcast shooting range.
01:43:40.000 Might even be better if you name it after a rhino in the area.
01:43:45.000 Ben's ass shooting range?
01:43:46.000 What is that?
01:43:48.000 Oh, an example.
01:43:49.000 I see.
01:43:50.000 Well, I don't know.
01:43:51.000 We wanted to do a range, but it's actually pretty difficult.
01:43:55.000 You'd imagine.
01:43:55.000 Yeah.
01:43:56.000 Yeah, it's not just about having the land.
01:43:58.000 It's about... I don't want to be responsible for really dumb people.
01:44:03.000 So it's like, we'll probably have some form of a range, but it's not going to be like any kind of substantial one or anything like that.
01:44:10.000 West Virginia is awesome though, because, you know, I was talking to the cops and I was like, how does it work?
01:44:13.000 We're shooting.
01:44:14.000 And they're like, what do you mean?
01:44:15.000 And I was like, you know, like on your property, you want to go shoot?
01:44:16.000 And they're like, what do you mean?
01:44:18.000 And I was like, well, are there like rules?
01:44:19.000 And they were like, just don't hit somebody.
01:44:23.000 They're like, yeah, the only rule is you're required to shoot.
01:44:25.000 They were like, you mean you're not shooting on your property?
01:44:27.000 And I'll be like, no, I'm like, come with me, sir.
01:44:29.000 And they're like, what's happening?
01:44:30.000 No, but they were basically just like, have sufficient backstop.
01:44:34.000 Make sure you're not, you know, you don't injure anybody.
01:44:36.000 Cause that's going to be on you.
01:44:37.000 You're responsible for whatever happens, but there's nothing stopping you from shooting on your property.
01:44:41.000 I'm a huge, I've been a huge advocate of the staff here going on shooting field trips and also all learning jujitsu and just turning into animals.
01:44:50.000 Yes.
01:44:51.000 There's a public range up on the mountain, not too far.
01:44:55.000 Yeah.
01:44:56.000 So it's actually really cool because you'll go out there and you'll hear shots and you, it's like a, actually it's a really good spot.
01:45:01.000 It's a massive like 25, 30 foot backstop and there's like a straight path to it so you don't accidentally walk in and you can see people.
01:45:10.000 And then you'll go there and you'll, you'll see people.
01:45:12.000 It's really, really cool.
01:45:12.000 You'll hang out.
01:45:13.000 And we saw some, some, some guy with his son.
01:45:15.000 He had a mini 14 and we were like, Oh, cool.
01:45:17.000 And he's giving us good pointers.
01:45:18.000 They were zeroing the sites and everything was fun.
01:45:20.000 The one thing though, is the cost of ammo got so high that people weren't coming out as much, you know?
01:45:26.000 I think we should do that one day.
01:45:27.000 The four of us should go out and... Whoa.
01:45:28.000 Oh, absolutely.
01:45:29.000 And I'll out-shoot you.
01:45:29.000 Can you teach me?
01:45:30.000 I'll out-shoot you.
01:45:32.000 Hands down, you will out-shoot me.
01:45:34.000 I have... I can't speak.
01:45:36.000 This is the Congressman's real attitude.
01:45:39.000 I have, within the couple hours I've known him, seen him challenge someone to pool, almost wrestle me, and now challenge me to a shooting.
01:45:45.000 He is ready to go.
01:45:47.000 Until I saw your ears now, Jamie.
01:45:49.000 Yeah, he backed down with the wrestling.
01:45:50.000 Yeah.
01:45:51.000 All right, all right.
01:45:51.000 We got Chris Pavotto says, My seven-year-old son has Down syndrome.
01:45:56.000 Why are red states slow to fund special therapies and services with Medicaid for family members needing assistance, while blue states fund more?
01:46:04.000 Texas needs more family support.
01:46:06.000 I did research this because moving to Texas, please help.
01:46:10.000 Well, and I feel horrible about that, and I think we certainly should help America's families that have children with special needs.
01:46:17.000 So, the only thing I could say is please reach out to my office.
01:46:21.000 I don't know where you live, I don't know what district you're in, but you can please reach out to my office and we'll do what we can to address that issue.
01:46:28.000 I don't have an answer for you right now, but I think it's good that we could engage.
01:46:32.000 We should engage.
01:46:34.000 All right, IDG says Shelley Moore Crepito and other senators can be recalled by state legislatures the way the founders intended if we repeal the 17th amendment.
01:46:44.000 Keep that on billboards and you will shake up the uniparty.
01:46:47.000 Yeah, so, you know the 17th Amendment, right?
01:46:50.000 Yeah, go ahead.
01:46:51.000 We used to have it, it used to be that the state legislature would vote, they would appoint the senators who would go up to the federal government.
01:46:58.000 And then for a variety of reasons, namely what they said was fear of corruption, because legislators would then be like, I'll do a favor for you, I can do what I want.
01:47:07.000 They switched it to the popular vote.
01:47:08.000 I think that was a mistake.
01:47:10.000 I think it's only made things worse.
01:47:12.000 I think that if our senator was based on the state legislatures, people would be more paying attention to their state races, to their local elections, which is substantially more important for where you live than federal elections.
01:47:27.000 All right, let's read some more.
01:47:29.000 What do we have here?
01:47:31.000 S.R.
01:47:31.000 Dempsey says, can Republicans get an inventory of all who are inside of Congress on 1-6 and their affiliation?
01:47:37.000 It seems more than just Trump supporters were inside that building.
01:47:40.000 That's true.
01:47:41.000 At least one guy and a woman were leftists.
01:47:44.000 They claim they're just there documenting.
01:47:45.000 They didn't get charged or anything like that.
01:47:47.000 But I wonder who else.
01:47:49.000 Yeah.
01:47:49.000 I think you're going to find that there were other groups there.
01:47:52.000 They weren't all Trump supporters there.
01:47:54.000 You're going to find Antifa.
01:47:54.000 I mean, you could sit here, and I know you guys know the name Ray Epps and the scaffold commander, but Ray Epps, he still hasn't been arrested, so there's a lot of questions that need to be asked, but you're not getting it from this J6 committee.
01:48:06.000 You're going to get it from us, though.
01:48:07.000 You're going to get it from the five of us that are on this shadow committee, and I talk about it in my book.
01:48:13.000 Right on.
01:48:14.000 All right.
01:48:15.000 Peas and Butter says, how do we know you will use your red wave win wisely?
01:48:20.000 What is your 5 to 10 year plan?
01:48:21.000 What is your 2023 agenda?
01:48:24.000 Well, this is what I do know, is that there's 435 of us.
01:48:28.000 And every two years, we get out there and we stomp in our districts.
01:48:31.000 And we're going to tell that people, the conservatives like myself, that we're going to reduce taxes.
01:48:36.000 We need less government.
01:48:37.000 We need to get less regulation.
01:48:39.000 Get the government out of our business.
01:48:41.000 And then many of us get elected, and then many of us get up here, and we either do nothing or do just the opposite.
01:48:49.000 And I'm not one of those guys.
01:48:50.000 That's why I'm proud to be part of that Freedom Caucus, because I stay true to myself, I stay true to my voters, and believe it or not, what that does for me is I can sleep with a clear conscience, and I sleep like a baby as a result.
01:49:03.000 Yeah, we like the Freedom Caucus guys.
01:49:05.000 We do, yeah.
01:49:06.000 You know, I like when Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massey were talking about how they have somebody on rotation to make sure that whenever there's a vote, they call all the Congress people to come and actually vote on it.
01:49:18.000 So, a lot of people didn't know this until we had Marjorie Taylor Greene on, that a lot of the votes on bills are like, just proxy.
01:49:24.000 It's like there's a handful of Democrats and Republicans and they're just like, meh.
01:49:27.000 and then no one actually comes in and votes on these bills in Congress.
01:49:31.000 So when she mentioned that she calls for a floor vote to make everyone come down,
01:49:35.000 people were cheering, like, make them do their jobs.
01:49:38.000 Yeah, they call that the roll call vote. There's been a lot of proxy voting because of COVID.
01:49:42.000 I think when we take over the House, I think Lyndon McCarthy will do away with the proxy voting.
01:49:48.000 Cool. All right, where we got?
01:49:51.000 Tasty Waffle says, Tim, can you clarify what the 2A SCOTUS ruling will mean for people, especially in California?
01:49:56.000 Do we now get constitutional carry nationwide?
01:49:59.000 Haven't sat down to read it yet.
01:50:01.000 No.
01:50:02.000 Brett Kavanaugh said states that require permits for handguns can still do so.
01:50:06.000 This ruling will not affect them.
01:50:08.000 Sorry.
01:50:09.000 Thanks, Kavanaugh.
01:50:10.000 Clarence Thomas said requiring someone to state a reason as to why they need to defend themselves is a violation of the Second Amendment and the Fourteenth.
01:50:20.000 So this should impact California that they are required If they're going to have a concealed carry permit, I believe they basically have to know.
01:50:31.000 If you can check all the boxes off on their criteria, they have to give you the permit.
01:50:35.000 So that's fascinating.
01:50:37.000 And your right extends outside the home, so this is big as well.
01:50:40.000 So you can walk around with that concealed carry so long as you get your permit.
01:50:44.000 Or you can move to Texas or West Virginia and you don't need one.
01:50:47.000 Hey, Congressman, can I actually ask you a gun question, too, when it comes to lefty talking points that I'm sure there is a counter to that I've never heard in my life when it comes to background checks or issues like this that happen with the Supreme Court?
01:51:01.000 Are those also far more or far less effective than people on the left think, where we think maybe it'll solve everything if there is a longer waiting period, if there are stricter background checks, red flag laws and things like that?
01:51:13.000 Does that actually help or is it just Well, I don't know, Jamie.
01:51:17.000 I think that 72 hours is reasonable.
01:51:19.000 I do know that people that have gone to purchase a firearm that had a background check have been denied for one reason or another.
01:51:26.000 So, no, I think the background checks are effective.
01:51:29.000 I mean, I know firsthand, because I've talked to people that have been rejected for one reason or another.
01:51:34.000 Maybe it was a criminal offense, maybe even 20, 25 years ago, and then they have to work through that process.
01:51:39.000 So, I believe the background checks are a good thing, and I think the American people support them.
01:51:43.000 All right, Captain Tanker Joe says, I think the diesel shortage is going to be worse than expected.
01:51:50.000 I've seen fuel jump 10 to 15 cents overnight.
01:51:53.000 I've seen videos of people saying they've been stopped for days waiting for fuel already.
01:51:57.000 The shortage is starting already, I'm afraid.
01:51:59.000 I did see some tweets from people saying that some gas stations have run out of gas.
01:52:04.000 It could just be because sometimes gas stations run out of gas.
01:52:07.000 However, we are hearing a lot in the news that there's gonna be a diesel shortage, and that's gonna result in food prices going through the roof because farmers need diesel to actually tend to the crops to harvest.
01:52:18.000 So it's gonna have a massive ripple effect.
01:52:21.000 A lot of people tell me never to say this, but I just bought more emergency food.
01:52:25.000 Just, you know, full disclosure, I did.
01:52:27.000 Got these buckets, they last 25 years.
01:52:28.000 Because my worst case scenario is, well, the worst case scenario is I guess the apocalypse happens and you need to eat them.
01:52:34.000 The best case scenario is you got Fuji's to eat it anyway.
01:52:36.000 They're pretty good.
01:52:39.000 All right.
01:52:40.000 Wandering Mage says, During the House Judiciary meeting on the omnibus, gun control rep Nadler went ballistic at the idea of raising the draft age.
01:52:48.000 He yelled about national security, but it felt like he sees us as his toy soldiers, and the draft.
01:52:54.000 Yeah.
01:52:55.000 Oh, Jerry.
01:52:58.000 I didn't hear what he had to say.
01:53:00.000 I have no comment because I'd have to get more information on that.
01:53:03.000 Jerry Nadler is an interesting fella.
01:53:05.000 He is the Chairman of the Judiciary.
01:53:09.000 I've tried to work with him to get some legislation to his committee because, folks, if you don't understand, if you want to get anything on the House, if you want to get a vote on the House floor, you've got to go through the Committee of Jurisdiction.
01:53:20.000 I've tried to do some things in law enforcement-related matters, criminal justice reform, and Jerry Lander just doesn't want to hear any of it.
01:53:27.000 So, I don't have a whole lot of love for him because I think he's out of tune and out of touch.
01:53:32.000 Oh yeah, remember when he said Antifa was just an idea or whatever?
01:53:35.000 Alright, Rory F. says, Rep Nails, are you re-electing McCarthy as Majority Leader?
01:53:40.000 Why or why not?
01:53:42.000 I see a lot of lobbyist money that's also going to the DCCC and major Dem bills.
01:53:46.000 You know, that's a great question, and we were talking about that the other day, and I'm a realist, and I'm telling you right now that Leader McCarthy has raised an enormous amount of money, it's record amount of money, to help get the majority.
01:54:03.000 There is no other answer.
01:54:04.000 Leader McCarthy, I'm telling you right now, Kevin McCarthy is going to be the Speaker of the House.
01:54:09.000 And that's it.
01:54:10.000 So now we just have to do everything we can to try to hold him accountable.
01:54:13.000 We must hold him accountable.
01:54:15.000 But he doesn't want to impeach you either.
01:54:16.000 If the American people, I don't know if he does want to or not, but if the American people, and you are going to give us the gavel back, we have to take care of it because Republicans are sick and tired of this.
01:54:26.000 When we had both chambers of Congress, when we had Paul Ryan, we had both chambers, we had Donald Trump, what did we do for our southern border?
01:54:32.000 We didn't do a damn thing.
01:54:33.000 Donald Trump had to do it on his own through executive order.
01:54:36.000 So I just think that the Republican Party better be very, very careful that if we don't take care of that gavel and do right for the American people and start putting the American people first, we're going to end up giving it right back and we're going to lose the confidence of the American people.
01:54:50.000 I think McCarthy said he didn't want to impeach Biden.
01:54:53.000 I think that was his stance.
01:54:55.000 I'm not a big fan.
01:54:57.000 I'm not confident that if he becomes Speaker of the House, we're going to see a lot of change.
01:55:00.000 I think it'll be, once again, Republicans slow rolling, Democrats go on the speed limit.
01:55:05.000 I'd like to see Thomas Massey as Speaker of the House.
01:55:09.000 That'd be a whole lot of fun.
01:55:10.000 But at the same time, There's the challenge of, do you take what you can get, or what do you do?
01:55:18.000 I think there's a lot of people hearing that.
01:55:22.000 It would be McCarthy, would probably vote Libertarian instead.
01:55:24.000 Because there's just the confidence in the Republican leadership is just... The Freedom Caucus is great, but... But we'll see, man.
01:55:31.000 We'll see.
01:55:33.000 Alright, let's see.
01:55:34.000 Alex Bradley says, Criminals can 3D print pistols with an internet connection and 300 bucks.
01:55:38.000 Why is this even a discussion?
01:55:40.000 Just educate.
01:55:41.000 Yep!
01:55:42.000 You can 3D print guns.
01:55:44.000 Crazy.
01:55:44.000 Plastic and a nail or whatever.
01:55:47.000 I feel like every time I'm on the show, I learn something that I didn't know that's going to give me nightmares.
01:55:52.000 I haven't seen one.
01:55:52.000 Have you guys seen one?
01:55:53.000 No.
01:55:53.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:55:55.000 I haven't.
01:55:55.000 I have to be honest.
01:55:56.000 Control-Q.
01:55:57.000 They're 3D-printed gun advocates, and they post videos all the time.
01:56:01.000 You look at these videos of 3D-printed guns, and you're like, wow.
01:56:04.000 No joke.
01:56:05.000 They're well-designed.
01:56:06.000 It's crazy.
01:56:06.000 Some of them require more metal parts than others.
01:56:09.000 The first, I believe, was the Liberator, and it was basically a single-shot 9mm or something.
01:56:14.000 But they've advanced the technology of 3D-printed guns, where they've got, like... People have been telling me, almost entirely plastic-based, 3D-printed.
01:56:24.000 3D printers have come a long way.
01:56:25.000 Plus, there's also CNC machines, so it's really easy to make guns at home.
01:56:29.000 Not to mention, there are those videos that guys have on YouTube where they take, like, two pipes.
01:56:34.000 I'm not gonna say much beyond that, but, like, literally two pipes and there's a shotgun.
01:56:37.000 So, you know, I don't know.
01:56:39.000 I don't know, man.
01:56:40.000 Man, we grew up digging for the anarchist cookbook.
01:56:42.000 That was our big thing.
01:56:43.000 We didn't have 3D printers or guns.
01:56:45.000 Kids these days.
01:56:48.000 Yoder says, Tim, Ian and you guys need to look up the Battle of Athens, Tennessee, 1946.
01:56:52.000 Oh yeah, yeah, we're familiar.
01:56:55.000 Justification that we need 2A to defend ourselves against tyrannical government.
01:57:00.000 It would really be cool if you guys did a documentary on this.
01:57:03.000 That would be cool.
01:57:03.000 I don't think, I don't know if it would be a full doc, it'd be a short doc, mini doc maybe.
01:57:07.000 But the Battle of Athens, you guys know about it?
01:57:09.000 No.
01:57:09.000 Veterans came back from World War II and the town was corrupt and taken over, so they Basically reclaim the town.
01:57:15.000 Whoa, that should be a movie.
01:57:17.000 I was gonna say, you can't make a documentary about it.
01:57:19.000 Let's write the movie.
01:57:20.000 Who would play the leading role, Jamie?
01:57:22.000 I mean, obviously the very tall and handsome Jamie Kilstein.
01:57:28.000 Tina Colette says, why does no one ever point out that the two teens who got gunned down in the Chazz were running for safety from just having carjacked the Jeep they were driving?
01:57:38.000 Running from just having carjacked?
01:57:41.000 They stole the Jeep and then they got shot and killed.
01:57:44.000 I don't know, man.
01:57:45.000 You know, if Washington and Oregon were like, we want to secede from the Union, I'd be like, hey, don't let me stop you.
01:57:51.000 You know what I mean?
01:57:52.000 Like, you guys do your thing.
01:57:53.000 California, man.
01:57:54.000 They got a lot of food, but yikes.
01:57:57.000 What's going on in those states?
01:57:59.000 The prophet says Obama loves hot dogs.
01:58:02.000 It's because it's from Chicago.
01:58:03.000 People don't understand this.
01:58:04.000 In those emails that got leaked, Obama was like, I'm gonna order $30,000 worth of hot dogs and pizza, so I'm in for a party.
01:58:11.000 And then people were like, that must be code for something, because it makes no sense.
01:58:14.000 And I'm like, dude, he's talking about Portillo's and Giordano's.
01:58:18.000 Or, or Maxwell Street and Lou Malnati's.
01:58:21.000 But we, it's funny, I always say this.
01:58:24.000 I'm always like, yeah, we just ordered, I think we ordered $1,000 in pizza and hot dogs from Chicago to come here for a party.
01:58:30.000 Because you order Giordano's online, famous Chicago deep dish, and Portillo's hot dogs.
01:58:34.000 They're amazing.
01:58:35.000 There's celery, salt, pickles, pork peppers.
01:58:37.000 Maybe he's doing it for Mega Month with us.
01:58:40.000 Well, this was back like they had a party at the White House.
01:58:42.000 And everyone thought it was a grand conspiracy.
01:58:43.000 And I'm like, dude, if a guy from Chicago is having a party for all of his friends and he spends 30 grand to fly out this expensive food, he's rich.
01:58:51.000 He's flying out famous Chicago food.
01:58:53.000 Rich people like Chicago hot dogs.
01:58:54.000 That's cool.
01:58:56.000 Oh, bro, you don't understand.
01:58:58.000 Chicago has... No, I know, I know.
01:59:01.000 There was a couple of restaurants that were some of the most notable restaurants in the country for selling hot dogs.
01:59:04.000 It was crazy.
01:59:05.000 They had, like, ostrich and eel hot dogs, and they had, like, foie gras hot dogs.
01:59:10.000 It's crazy.
01:59:10.000 Chicago's got food.
01:59:11.000 Yeah, man.
01:59:12.000 And then you got the famous Maxwell Street.
01:59:13.000 You know Maxwell Street.
01:59:15.000 You get the Polish sausage with the mustard and the onions on it.
01:59:17.000 And then you've got Lou Malnati's, you got Giordano's, you got Uno's.
01:59:20.000 Oh, man, pizza, pizza.
01:59:21.000 Oh, no, I'm hungry now.
01:59:22.000 Yep, yep.
01:59:23.000 We've got a whole bunch of Giordano's downstairs throwing in.
01:59:25.000 What?
01:59:26.000 It's really good.
01:59:26.000 They don't send it with the sauce packets though anymore.
01:59:28.000 I know!
01:59:29.000 That's the economy today.
01:59:30.000 And it looks like they're putting a layer of crust on top of the cheese.
01:59:33.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:59:35.000 It's not as good.
01:59:36.000 They've had to make them cheaper or something.
01:59:38.000 I think that's what it was.
01:59:39.000 Yeah, so we were ordering them for a while and deep dish pizza is like a big layer of cheese with sauce on top and you get a sauce pack to make it saucier.
01:59:45.000 Now there's no sauce pack and it looks like there's a layer of dough on top.
01:59:49.000 What?
01:59:49.000 We gotta just like get our own sauce or something.
01:59:51.000 I don't know, man.
01:59:51.000 Can you guys fix that if you win?
01:59:56.000 You can't fix Chicago.
01:59:58.000 That was a slick answer.
02:00:00.000 No way.
02:00:01.000 That was a slick answer.
02:00:02.000 Low blow.
02:00:02.000 Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, having lived, grown up there, I'm not sure that you can.
02:00:07.000 It's like 80 years of Democrat leadership and people just don't learn.
02:00:10.000 That's what you get.
02:00:11.000 They're like, I voted for the Democrat last time and everything's worse.
02:00:14.000 I'm gonna vote for a Democrat again.
02:00:16.000 I love Chicago.
02:00:19.000 All right, let's just grab a couple more of these super chats.
02:00:23.000 All right, what do we got?
02:00:25.000 Daniel Brent says the police have no responsibility to protect us.
02:00:28.000 They will sit back while children are murdered, Yuvaldi and Parkland.
02:00:31.000 Compromised institutions filled with cowards just like the GOP.
02:00:37.000 Listen, I don't think that's very fair.
02:00:41.000 Most of us that have served in this business for 30 years, yes, we're questioning the judgment of those officers.
02:00:48.000 And they're going to have a lot to live with.
02:00:50.000 There's no question about it.
02:00:51.000 I don't know what they were thinking.
02:00:53.000 I know they were trying to listen to the chief of police or something, but it would have been hell or high water.
02:00:57.000 I would have gone in there no matter what.
02:00:59.000 And you're taught in alert training.
02:01:01.000 Everyone's taught in alert training that when you get to an active shooter scene, you go in even if you're by yourself.
02:01:06.000 I don't care if you have a vest or a shield or a shotgun or whatever.
02:01:10.000 You go in.
02:01:11.000 And they chose not to.
02:01:13.000 Wow.
02:01:13.000 And they're going to have to live with that.
02:01:14.000 And I think it's horrible.
02:01:17.000 I didn't agree with their actions.
02:01:20.000 But I don't think it's fair to paint us all in that type of a light.
02:01:23.000 The story that came out... Oh, sorry.
02:01:25.000 Well, the story that came out today, I think it came out today, about the husband or boyfriend who was armed and was stopped by the police who wanted to go in and save his wife or girlfriend who was killed was just gutting.
02:01:38.000 That guy was gonna be a hero.
02:01:39.000 He was gonna go be a hero and save his wife.
02:01:41.000 One last one, and it's a good one.
02:01:43.000 Gnarly Marley says, if you claim to be for gun rights, why are you not actively trying to abolish the NFA?
02:01:48.000 Well, I'll phrase that in a question for you, Congressman.
02:01:51.000 Are you in favor of abolishing the NFA?
02:01:55.000 The National Firearms Act?
02:01:57.000 No.
02:01:58.000 You're not?
02:02:00.000 I would have to do more research on it.
02:02:04.000 All I do know is I support the Second Amendment.
02:02:07.000 This legislation coming across from the Senate, it may be tomorrow, it may not be tomorrow, but I won't support it.
02:02:15.000 I don't believe You know, if we want to do everything we can to try to help prevent shootings and protect our children, as we should.
02:02:22.000 My wife's a principal of an elementary school.
02:02:24.000 We need to harden our schools.
02:02:25.000 We need to put law enforcement officers in our school.
02:02:27.000 Trained law enforcement officers in our school as well.
02:02:30.000 So I think that's a step in the right direction.
02:02:32.000 But I think it's sad that the left, every time you have a tragedy like this take place, they try to exploit those deaths and then they try to trample on people like me and my rights as an American citizen.
02:02:43.000 The NFA basically makes it prohibitively expensive for people to get short-barreled rifles, suppressors, and select-fire rifles.
02:02:52.000 Well, listen, I support the idea of having suppressors because I have such hearing loss now.
02:02:59.000 And so I think that, listen, I support the Second Amendment.
02:03:02.000 And I will continue to do so.
02:03:06.000 And I don't believe that our government should be toying with this and playing with this.
02:03:10.000 I tried buying suppressors and I haven't been able to get them because it's literally impossible because of the NFA.
02:03:17.000 So the requirements to actually get an NFA item for me would require me to stop working.
02:03:24.000 And so I get it, it's my choice to run a company, but because of the rules set forth and the amount of time it takes, I'm not able to get them.
02:03:33.000 I think I should be able to go into a gun store and say, I'll take one suppressor, please.
02:03:37.000 And they hand it to me and I put it in a box and that's it.
02:03:39.000 It's an accessory.
02:03:40.000 But because of the NFA, I'm never going to be able to get one.
02:03:43.000 I've been doing this 30 years and I've been to many, many crime scenes.
02:03:47.000 I've never been to a scene in 30 years where anybody has used a gun to go out and kill somebody that's had a suppressor on it.
02:03:53.000 Really?
02:03:54.000 Not one?
02:03:54.000 Because suppressors don't actually make it sound like a pew-pew like in the movies.
02:03:58.000 Right.
02:03:58.000 I understand.
02:03:59.000 It's all movie stuff.
02:04:01.000 No, it's true.
02:04:01.000 Like, they base their gun policy on what they see in movies.
02:04:03.000 There's not 007s running around our country with suppressors shooting people.
02:04:07.000 That sounds like 007 talk to me.
02:04:09.000 But anyway... No, it's actually funny when you put it that way.
02:04:11.000 It's like, that is not who we're trying to stop right now.
02:04:14.000 I'll keep arguing for repealing the NFA and the Hughes Amendment and restoring all those gun rights, but we'll wrap it up here.
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02:04:36.000 Congressman, would you like to shout anything out?
02:04:37.000 Yes, if I could.
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02:05:48.000 It's called A F-Up's Guide to the Universe, where we talk about mental health a lot, tribalism, just being a good person and also admitting to your flaws, giving advice, all that kind of stuff.
02:05:59.000 And then this Saturday at the Beacon Theater, you can see me and Tim, Tulsi Gabbard, Ian, Zuby, James O'Keefe, all sorts of people from the left and the right debate, do stand-up comedy.
02:06:11.000 It's a really important event.
02:06:12.000 And if we can pack this out, We can have more events, and I don't work for that company, for Minds, but they can have more events that promote free speech, that promote uncensored comedy.
02:06:21.000 Ryan Long's also doing stand-up, who's hysterical.
02:06:24.000 So that's Saturday at the Beacon Theatre.
02:06:26.000 You can get tickets or apply for free tickets at festival.minds.com.
02:06:30.000 Yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun.
02:06:31.000 There's also going to be Tyler Fisher and Chrissy Maher doing comedy between the panels, I believe.
02:06:36.000 It's going to be so awesome.
02:06:38.000 I'm really looking forward to it.
02:06:39.000 I've never been to New York City.
02:06:40.000 I'm about to change that.
02:06:40.000 Whoa, it's your first time?
02:06:42.000 Yeah.
02:06:43.000 That's amazing.
02:06:43.000 I know, I'm really excited.
02:06:45.000 It's going to be a really fun time.
02:06:46.000 I'm hoping it lives up to my expectations.
02:06:48.000 I'm sure it won't in this economy.
02:06:50.000 Anyway, you guys can follow me on Twitter and Minds.com at Sour Patchlets as well as SourPatchlets.me.
02:06:55.000 There's also gonna be a VIP meet and greet.
02:06:57.000 So I guess if you go to the festival.minds.com, that's the URL, right?
02:07:03.000 Festival.minds.com, yeah.
02:07:05.000 They mentioned, I think, there's a meet and greet happening for VIP tickets, so if you wanna get those.
02:07:09.000 But for people who can't afford it, there's an option to get free tickets.
02:07:13.000 Actually, Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
02:07:14.000 just mentioned in the Super Chat saying it worked.
02:07:16.000 The free tickets actually worked.
02:07:18.000 Oh, awesome.
02:07:18.000 Let's go.
02:07:18.000 So the idea is, it's very expensive to put on an event at the Beacon Theater.
02:07:22.000 You got to understand that.
02:07:23.000 One of the most historical theaters of all time.
02:07:24.000 Yeah, it's massive.
02:07:25.000 It's like 3,000 seats.
02:07:26.000 And so that's why the tickets cost what they do.
02:07:30.000 But because of COVID, you know, we're really trying to get as many people to come out as possible.
02:07:34.000 So one of the reasons that it is so expensive is because they have great security.
02:07:38.000 So I'm really not concerned.
02:07:39.000 So whatever happens on Friday happens on Friday, and then I'm sure we'll be fine at the event.
02:07:43.000 So come on down.
02:07:43.000 All right, everybody.
02:07:44.000 We will see you all over at TimCast.com.
02:07:46.000 Thanks for hanging out.