A man who was posting threats against the President was shot and killed by the FBI in Provo, Utah, and many are asking if this was an act of escalation. We talk about this and much more on today's episode of Uncensored.
00:00:00.000We got breaking news out of Provo, Utah.
00:00:26.000A man who was posting threats against the president had his home raided by the FBI, where he was shot and killed.
00:00:32.000And this story is currently spreading hundreds of thousands of tweets as everyone's talking about it, and there's a couple different views.
00:00:41.000You either have the story of a deranged man on the internet threatening to harm the president, Or, you have the story of an overzealous FBI targeting a morbidly obese elderly man who was a threat to no one.
00:00:53.000Either way you break it, both sides are looking at this as some kind of escalation.
00:00:57.000And there's a lot more than just that.
00:00:58.000We're now learning that Twitter was fined $350,000 for snubbing the FBI subpoena.
00:01:05.000They were trying to dig into Trump's social media, and apparently Twitter, in some way, obstructed them.
00:01:11.000Elon Musk has previously stated that the government had full access to everyone's private messages, their DMs, and it seems, in all likelihood, Elon was actually blocking this.
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00:02:40.000Now I know a lot of people are asking about what happened to last night's episode.
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00:03:50.000Yeah, I have the Naturalist Capitalist podcast, which I actually haven't done lately just because I've been working so much, but I'm from New Hampshire.
00:03:59.000The shirt I'm wearing, if I want to get one thing out, is Defend the Guard.
00:04:03.000This is legislation that we're trying to pass around the country.
00:04:06.000We haven't officially declared war since World War II and every police action that's taken place since then.
00:04:12.000The National Guard has been sent overseas, which is unconstitutional.
00:04:15.000If each state passes this, The president can no longer send troops overseas without declaring war, so that's something we definitely need to pass.
00:04:45.000Utah man Craig Deliu-Robertson was shot dead by the FBI in raid after posting on Facebook a credible Joe Biden death threat ahead of the president's visit to Salt Lake City.
00:04:57.000They say Craig Robertson, 75, was gunned down on his doorstep by agents in Provo, an hour from Salt Lake City, after they were alerted to his posts about the president.
00:05:05.000Messages posted on what is believed to be his Facebook page on Tuesday included bloodthirsty content about how he would... I'm gonna be light on this one, but... Posts and death threats.
00:05:21.000The commentary that we're seeing from many on the right is that this guy is 300 pounds, he's elderly, he can barely walk even with a cane, and wasn't a threat to anyone.
00:05:31.000So I'm going to give you my immediate speculation in a second, but I want to say this first.
00:05:35.000You've got the left basically saying, this is the danger of the far right, far right extremists threatening the president, oh heavens help me.
00:05:42.000You have people on the right being like, dude it's some old fat guy posting on the internet, it's ridiculous.
00:05:46.000But the best response that I've seen is, Every single time someone threatened Donald Trump, nothing happened.
00:05:55.000All of these prominent leftists, high profile individuals made death threats against Donald Trump, nothing happened.
00:05:59.000Kathy Griffin held up a mock severed head of the president, nothing happened.
00:06:06.000This guy posts really awful things, nobody should be posting that stuff.
00:06:10.000The FBI immediately shows up to his house, he gets gunned down.
00:06:16.000You know, they see these posts, so they're gonna go and they're gonna knock on his door and they're gonna figure out who he is, what he's doing.
00:06:22.000Many people have faced similar things.
00:06:24.000I'm willing to bet this guy showed up armed and that was it.
00:06:29.000Yeah, look, I mean, first of all, like, there's no part of me that's gonna defend this dude because, like, you can't threaten to kill the president.
00:06:59.000He's a big dude, but, like, when the cops come to your house, you don't need to- like, it's odd to get into a gunfight with the cops.
00:07:06.000Like, that should be thought of as- as a- that should be infrequent, you know?
00:07:10.000I- I think this is indicative of escalation, because what I think happens is, sure, this guy may not be able to actually carry out any of the things he's threatening, because he's morbidly obese and elderly, but he certainly had some kind of intent.
00:07:24.000Maybe the cops showed up, knocked on his door, and he was sitting in his couch, you know, covered in Cheeto dust, and said, hey, look, man, I was just posting nonsense, and they were like, too bad, and then shot him, which I really doubt.
00:09:49.000People need to understand what life is like when conflict erupts.
00:09:55.000And I think one of the reasons why, in history, there are stories of countries that undergo revolution, and that's it.
00:10:01.000And there are stories of countries that undergo civil war.
00:10:04.000And I think the issue is that, for people in these countries that face revolution, things get so bad, most people just say, whatever, because I'm gonna try and survive.
00:10:15.000When civil wars break out, it's highly political, and people are like, there's a better way to do things, they fight each other over the way things need to be.
00:10:23.000My concern here is, it feels like either we enter some kind of dystopian nightmare, or it turns into some kind of full-on conflict.
00:10:32.000Yeah, I think with this particular incident, it's like Phil said, it depends on what happened when they showed up.
00:10:38.000I mean, if we find out more, if he started shooting back at them right as they showed up, I mean, that's just kind of what you expect to happen if you start shooting at the FBI.
00:10:46.000Especially if you're not able to move.
00:10:51.000But I mean, I do think the escalation thing is a problem.
00:10:55.000On your point about, you know, the Republicans sweeping all this corruption out, Do you foresee that happening in any capacity?
00:11:03.000Because Christopher Wray, the FBI director, he was appointed by Trump.
00:11:07.000And predicating what Trump will do based on what he did is a mistake.
00:11:40.000My bet is that they betrayed Trump and Trump wants revenge.
00:11:44.000I think Trump wanting revenge is something you can count on.
00:11:48.000Yeah, see, I'm actually—this has surprised a lot of people, but I plan to vote for Trump currently, even though I've been one of his largest critics for how he handled lots of things.
00:11:58.000But I don't necessarily see him actually fixing anything or beheading, you know, figuratively beheading a lot of his past appointees.
00:12:07.000I just think he's going to drive people crazy, and that's enough for me.
00:12:10.000Like, just to drive the liberals insane and make everybody mad.
00:12:12.000He's definitely going to drive people crazy.
00:12:14.000I don't think the deep state will let him win.
00:12:32.000It was Republican legislatures in certain states who are passing these universal mail-in voting laws.
00:12:38.000In Pennsylvania, they're the ones who helped Democrats bypass their own constitution.
00:12:43.000So I'm not worried about the deep state.
00:12:45.000I'm worried about the Republican Party.
00:12:47.000But I think if Donald Trump and his supporters recognize the threats when it comes to these shady or illicit voting strategies, which were done legally by the way, they're just, I call them shady, if they recognize that, and Trump seems to be, Trump's going to win.
00:13:04.000And look, I think it's plainly obvious.
00:13:53.000He was going to go in and kick everybody out who was ruining the country.
00:13:56.000In 2020 it was kind of hard to make that claim after he'd been in there four years and everything was falling apart and we're passing all these giant spending bills.
00:14:04.000So I think it's really on him, if he wants to win, is to really, you know, listen to his base and try to understand what they're empathizing with him on.
00:14:13.000Because over the last couple years he's been A little bit off, you know, like he's cheering on stuff that they didn't support and he's even getting booed at rallies occasionally.
00:14:22.000And when he did his CNN town hall, I saw the old Trump kind of come back when he was pushing back, I forget her name, to the CNN interviewer there.
00:14:31.000And he was making all the jokes that he had made in 2016.
00:14:34.000He was talking about how we need to end the war in Ukraine.
00:14:36.000I was like, okay, this is the 2016 Trump that can win an election.
00:14:40.000So I think it's really up to him if he wants to win.
00:15:02.000They thought he was going to lose to Hillary.
00:15:03.000They got rid of Bernie because they wanted Hillary and they got an easy opponent in Trump and then they saw their mistake and they're like, we can never make that mistake again.
00:15:10.000I think anybody who's telling you that Trump can't win is actively trying to sabotage our path.
00:15:17.000Well, anyone saying he can win and fire everybody and save the world is also leading you down a dark path.
00:15:38.000You need to be able to talk to your community and rally and organize and support each other.
00:15:42.000I would agree on a cultural level, especially with Elon Musk buying Twitter and then blocking government access to a lot of the information that they've been illegally, I would say unconstitutionally, stealing.
00:15:53.000But we have got deeply corrupt individuals who are weaponizing government now.
00:15:57.000The stories that I introduced today, not even all of them, that the FBI was systematically going after Catholics.
00:16:03.000They're criminally charging people who are walking on a lawn in DC.
00:16:08.000Antifa is free to go in every respect.
00:16:11.000You've got story after story of death threats, violence, the left.
00:16:17.000I certainly believe culture, and yes, to be fair, Private sector is going to play an outsized role in this.
00:16:23.000But when it comes to what is happening in government, I am specifically referring to how do we solve direct, short-term political conflict.
00:16:31.000And when you have people threatening death, what we need is someone who's going to go in, Fix the justice system in any way, even if it means firing people.
00:16:40.000And people who keep saying, no, he can't win!
00:16:43.000I'm like, dude, you might as well just go to El Salvador right now.
00:16:47.000Because if you think everything they're doing with weaponizing the DOJ is unsolvable, because it's happening before our eyes, and they're going after, they're going after now Giuliani and Sidney Powell, Jeffrey Clark, John Eastman.
00:16:59.000If you are going to sit back and say it is inevitable, it is hopeless, then you should not be in this country, you should run.
00:18:25.000His position on the Second Amendment, his position on climate change and what to do about it, and if it's, you know, the amount of human input on climate change and all that kind of stuff, all those things are terrible.
00:18:38.000So I'm super not into the RFK guy at all.
00:18:43.000I know there's a lot of libertarians that have bought into that and I'm just...
00:19:34.000Massive credit to Elon and X for basically telling the government to go shove off.
00:19:40.000We were talking about this a little bit earlier and Reed did mention back when Apple told the FBI to go piss up a rope when the FBI was trying to get them to unlock a terrorist's iPhone.
00:19:56.000They were just like, we're not gonna do it.
00:19:57.000But then they eventually just figured out a way to break in.
00:19:59.000Yeah, but at least Apple didn't help them do it.
00:20:29.000We have this truth from real Donald Trump.
00:20:33.000Reposted by Election Wizard, he says, just found out that crooked Joe Biden's DOJ secretly attacked my Twitter account, making it a point not to let me know about this major hit on my civil rights.
00:20:43.000My political opponent is going crazy trying to infinge on my campaign for president.
00:20:47.000Nothing like this has ever happened before.
00:21:14.000Joe Biden running for president just tried to steal the private communications unconstitutionally from Donald Trump, from his private account.
00:21:24.000And only because of Elon Musk, they're obstructed.
00:21:53.000On some sites maybe it does, if it's in their terms.
00:21:56.000A lot of sites want to own your stuff.
00:21:58.000I gotta tell you, I don't care what ridiculous, psychotic, totalitarian, Nazi BS the government tries to argue about why they have a right to take my private communications.
00:22:21.000That's a BS argument from psychopaths who are trying to bypass our constitutional protections.
00:22:25.000It would be like if you went into somebody's house and had a conversation with somebody else in that house, and they were recording you in their house, and then you left.
00:22:32.000Like, technically, that person that owned the house would own that communication now.
00:22:37.000No, it's more like you rent a mailbox at a big... So, out in the middle of nowhere, people don't have mailboxes in front of their houses.
00:22:48.000Depending on where you live, they'll actually have a mailbox building, where everyone goes and collects their mail, despite having private houses, they go to one spot.
00:22:56.000So, you know, where we are up in the mountains, these mail trucks can't get on some of these roads.
00:23:01.000So it would be more like they said, that mailbox isn't actually yours, it's property of the post office, therefore anything inside of it is our fair game to open and read.
00:23:11.000I think the post office can open and read your mail.
00:23:14.000They need probable cause, the Fourth Amendment protects us.
00:23:17.000So I will make the fair point that they're saying a judge ordered this, but that means very little to me when it is the president trying to steal the private communications of his chief political rival.
00:23:33.000I mean, just because there's a political campaign going on or just because Donald Trump is persona non grata doesn't mean that the federal government can just look into his private communications.
00:23:43.000And there is an expectation of privacy that people have when they use platforms like this.
00:23:50.000That's why they call them private messages.
00:24:34.000So it would be more like the government has goggles that can see through your curtains and said, well, it's your fault for only having regular curtains.
00:26:09.000They're not going to go online and research fluoride for 27 years to figure out what's going on with the water, or atrazine, or sucralose, or other stuff like that.
00:26:17.000So they come to shows like this, and we do our best to inform them to the best of our abilities.
00:26:23.000They think their messages are private because it's only between them and another person.
00:26:28.000If there was a big red stop sign on the thing that said, anyone can see this, they would take it much more seriously.
00:26:34.000But they're not being told that, they're being misled.
00:26:36.000Outside of all of that, the most important thing to consider, it doesn't matter whether or not Donald Trump can be spotted by China or Australia or any other country, it doesn't matter if private messages are not secure, what matters is, Even if I paint a big picture and I put it in my bedroom, the federal government does not have a right to come and take it without a warrant.
00:27:01.000In this instance, the chief political rival is being targeted by the sitting president for political purposes.
00:27:07.000You're not going to make an argument about warrants in that case.
00:27:09.000The Constitution has been ripped to shreds and Joe Biden is cheating to try and steal 2024.
00:27:17.000I think it's interesting that the federal government often uses foreign governments as a scare tactic to let them just, you know, have open season on your private messages too.
00:27:28.000Like the Restrict Act, that's what the TikTok ban is what it was being sold as because China's harvesting our data or whatever, but then the Restrict Act was just basically a Patriot Act for all social media companies.
00:27:43.000The United States, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, the UK, each of them go to each other and say, it is illegal for us to spy on our citizens.
00:27:53.000You spy on them, then share the data with us, and now it's allowed.
00:27:56.000That's how they bypass our human rights.
00:27:59.000And you know that they, they've, there's stories that I've heard that there are people that abuse it.
00:28:04.000Like dudes are asking people, hey, can you watch my ex-girlfriend and that kind of stuff?
00:28:13.000Because they, because they, if you're, you know, if you're working in the Intel community and stuff, you're going to end up getting friendly with other, you know, with other, uh, other countries with other people in, in the Intel community for other countries.
00:28:26.000I've worked on the social media from the inside, and it feels like walking down dark alleys at night in big cities, like, don't do it.
00:28:33.000Don't post your data publicly in direct messages on Twitter if it's not encrypted.
00:28:37.000Do not do it, because you're putting yourself in a vulnerable position if you do that.
00:28:40.000And if you're taken advantage of, yeah, you can blame the victim, but like, Like, oh, she had it coming because of what she was wearing.
00:29:08.000The problem with end-to-end encryption is that if the person on the other end of your message shares that message with somebody, your stuff's not private.
00:29:16.000If you go to someone and say, hey, don't tell anybody, but, you know, X, Y, and Z, and then they go, hey, everybody, X, Y, and Z. Seeker was meaningless.
00:30:16.000I mean, they just gunned a guy down and killed him in his house.
00:30:19.000I'm not making a comment on anything other than that, that a guy died.
00:30:24.000With the level of intensity that now I feel like it's a kind of calm before the storm kind of thing because it has been really chill like news-wise when it comes to the actual election and stuff.
00:30:41.000There hasn't been any kind of big developments to talk about.
00:30:45.000I mean we keep talking about You know, DeSantis kind of just petering out.
00:30:50.000That's been the big story for days and days and days.
00:30:52.000Or, you know, maybe Vevek is getting some traction and stuff.
00:30:56.000But still, it's mostly very chill, you know, not big announcements or anything like that.
00:31:02.000So I feel like, you know, it is the calm before the storm.
00:31:07.000I feel like it's going to be really, really weird with AI and the way that's going to affect... Oh, the defakes aren't even coming.
00:31:16.000Yeah, and I think that, like I said, now is the calm before the storm, but I think that once the election starts, or once the campaigning starts going in earnest, it's going to be really weird with... people aren't going to know what to believe, and it's going to be really weird.
00:31:32.000I don't know that anyone's ever going to feel confident about who won an election ever again just because they're going to feel like they... I don't know that people are going to feel like they confidently can say that they made an informed decision that was actually informed by the truth as opposed to, you know, really propagandized.
00:31:52.000So I think it's going to be a mess whether Biden or Trump becomes the next president.
00:31:58.000And I don't think we're on the verge of some, like, civil war.
00:32:00.000I think people are too lazy for it still, honestly.
00:32:03.000Like, you might have a few people who are real amped up.
00:32:06.000But I mean, the FBI has been murdering people for a long time.
00:32:09.000That's, you know, I understand that this is politically charged, but everything, every murder the FBI has ever committed in the past has been politically charged.
00:32:17.000So I don't think this is necessarily a new thing and you know if you're not online all the time you talk to people like they're a little worried about stuff but not nearly at the levels that everyone is on Twitter and social media so I don't think that we're at the verge of any sort of conflict.
00:32:32.000When people, one of the things that I think when people say that is I think of the idea that There's only a certain small percentage of people that are involved in any kind of like political, whether it be activists or whether it be, you know, just going out and demonstrating or protesting or whether it be people that actually do, you know, get violent and stuff.
00:32:56.000It's always a small minority of people that get into that stuff.
00:33:01.000Tim's talked multiple times about how when he was in Egypt, the Arab Spring was literally kicking off in Egypt, but at the same time there were people that were at cafes just going about their normal day.
00:33:15.000And I feel like the people that are on Twitter and stuff are most likely the people that would be the ones that would be at least...
00:33:24.000The most likely to be politically informed, so it seems to me to make sense that those people would be the most likely to be politically active, up to including, you know, violence.
00:33:39.000I don't think there's, for the most part, a conflict in history where the overwhelming majority of a population was actively participating in a conflict.
00:33:49.000Even in World War II, we're looking at, you know, what is like a million-some-odd conscriptions in a country of, at the time, what was it?
00:34:21.000That were actively engaged in the conflict, and the reality is the people who were conscripted weren't actual participants in the conflict in the political sense.
00:34:27.000It was, like, I gotta tell you, I bet most people didn't care!
00:34:31.000And if you went around, I bet there are people going like, yeah, but if you ask your neighbor, they don't care about Germany or what's going on.
00:34:37.000Yet somehow we found ourselves in that conflict.
00:34:39.000So what I see happening, you get this guy who's posting on social media saying this horrifying stuff, you get Antifa, you get violent extremists who go out and the majority of people will cower, but conflict happens.
00:34:49.000Eventually what happens is the question of who is in charge.
00:34:52.000There's that moment Matt Taibbi wrote about where two cars speed towards the police station, two men in suits jump out, run full speed up to the door, run inside and run to the police chief and say, arrest that man and point to each other.
00:35:05.000And now the police chief says, which one do I arrest?
00:35:49.000And the secular people in the country, there were more secular people than Muslim Brotherhood supporters, but the Muslim Brotherhood was the largest faction of voters, so they won.
00:35:59.000It was a legitimate first-past-the-post election.
00:36:05.000I go to a cafe, I'm having coffee, nobody's talking about it.
00:36:08.000Now, you actually go out and you'll hear people talk about it.
00:36:12.000So it's worrying to me in that I don't expect the average person to care.
00:36:17.000I'm concerned about the people who are politically active and motivated, and I'm concerned with, look, if the reality is, you're right, nobody cares and no one's gonna do anything, then we're dealing with a federal government that has just amplified their corruption 100-fold to the point where they're, like, Watergate was a scandal.
00:36:35.000This, apparently Joe Biden's still the good guy.
00:36:37.000That is a degree of corruption and malfeasance we have never seen in this country before.
00:36:46.000If nothing happens, if we don't have the best case scenario for everybody, Trump or Vivek or even Ron DeSantis, any one of these guys who pledges to fire people, the best case scenario is they do get elected, they do fire people, they do start weeding out corruption, and we turn this ship upright and we start saving it.
00:37:06.000Otherwise, the two scenarios are overt conflict between angry political factions or Revolution.
00:37:13.000Yeah, what bothers me- Psychotic despots go around and mercilessly beat, arrest, and lock up innocent people.
00:37:18.000What gets me about these faction conflicts is that I think if there's an enemy of the United States, they would want that to happen.
00:37:24.000It's very easy to destroy or take over or surpass an enemy if they're in fighting, if they're in the middle of a- half the country's fighting itself.
00:37:31.000So they want people to walk outside and be like, hold on there.
00:37:42.000So if people are brainwashed or afraid or dumbed, then they might do that.
00:37:46.000But if so, not only do we need to weed out corruption within the government itself, we need to control the media in a way, or at least influence the media so that people are not afraid of each other.
00:37:58.000I think when you have people like these leftists who have come on this show, or The Culture War, who directly advocate for giving children sexual explicit content, I don't know what you're arguing for.
00:38:09.000You tell those people, I'm sorry, I am not going to allow you to present this book of adult pictures to children, you should be in prison.
00:38:17.000And they argue, I've got 80 million people at my back that tell you to STFU.
00:38:50.000I was just going to say, I think the federal government's a lost cause and trying to kumbaya everybody into peace again is not going to happen.
00:38:58.000So I think that separation and people going to places where people think the same way they are is the ultimate solution.
00:39:06.000I mean, at this point, You know, when I see conservatives crying about the streets of San Francisco and, like, how horrible it's become, I'm just, like, I don't take them seriously anymore.
00:39:16.000It's like, why do you care about San Francisco anymore?
00:39:31.000So when you have California bringing in non-citizens and using that to inflate their census numbers so they get more votes in Congress and in the Electoral College, we've got a very, very serious problem with what San Francisco is doing.
00:39:41.000Yeah, well that's the problem right there, that they have control over us and the solution is trying to decrease the control that these other states have over us.
00:39:49.000The federal government needs to decentralize.
00:39:52.000Instead of trying to fix it and just get better people into these positions, we need to go back to a more decentralized approach like the Tenth Amendment actually provided for.
00:40:03.000But I don't completely agree with that.
00:40:05.000I maybe would have agreed with it a while ago, but now we see the issue of these West Coast states Passing laws where people can kidnap children and then sterilize them and the state will protect the kidnapper.
00:40:19.000So there's a problem then when we say, everybody just pick your state and then shut up.
00:40:24.000Okay, what happens when you're in Oklahoma?
00:40:40.000Yeah, that's the point I was going to make.
00:40:42.000What happens when you're in Oklahoma, I think it's actually either of them, and a woman, you know, you're with a woman, she gets pregnant, and then she decides six months on she doesn't want to be with you, so she flees to Colorado.
00:41:00.000Yeah, I mean, I understand why people are uncomfortable with that thought, but at this point, that's the only thing that I think is going to save pockets of society.
00:42:41.000I think Washington State was the one that explicitly said, anybody who helps a child receive gender-affirming care will not face prosecution in their state.
00:42:50.000So, when we live in a post-rational society, which we do, there's no universal reason anymore, and we live in a quasi-democracy where The people of the country get to decide what is right and wrong, basically.
00:43:04.000I mean, where is the win in the end there?
00:44:06.000They're gonna say the people need this more than you.
00:44:08.000They already do it in California with the water.
00:44:10.000They tell the farmers, who are the lifeblood of the whole state and a good portion of this country, that they don't have surface water rights.
00:44:16.000Because the surface water has to go to the liberal cities where people have voting power.
00:44:20.000Then the poor people who live in these farming districts lose access to well water when the farmers drill into the earth to get groundwater to grow crops.
00:44:29.000You can already see how that starts to break down.
00:44:31.000My experience in California during the drought made me understand the importance of the Electoral College.
00:44:43.000In California, you have poor migrant workers and their wells for water run 30 feet deep.
00:44:51.000There's canal water running through Tulare County, and I asked the farmers, why don't you use that water there?
00:44:58.000And they said, we're not allowed to, it's illegal.
00:44:59.000Because the cities voted to take the water, and the politicians say, well, the people need water first.
00:45:05.000So what the farms do then, is they drill tens of thousands of feet, thousands of feet into the earth for groundwater, which drains the groundwater, and now all the poor people have no water anymore.
00:45:15.000They're 30 foot wells, can't reach water, and the water stops.
00:45:18.000The Electoral College changes the way the voting system would work.
00:45:22.000Now, you can't just go to this small, I should say, a Republican system, and I mean that in the philosophical sense, not in the colloquial sense.
00:45:32.000You have to go to them and say, we need you all to vote.
00:45:39.000When you look at why we break things down by states, why they have senators, so that you can't just say, we outvote you, therefore we get your water.
00:46:14.000I think it is a better move to make now.
00:46:17.000But when you have 10 million people in the New York metro, and it's falling apart and collapsing, a decent amount of them leave, and a decent amount of them will band together and say, we deserve it.
00:46:28.000You're gonna have people in cities, like the Colorado River is a really interesting problem.
00:46:33.000The Great Lakes are a really interesting problem.
00:46:35.000You've got states, I think it was Arizona trying to sue, to claim the rights over Great Lakes water, arguing the Great Lakes are part of the United States, and the water should be dispersed, and then you have the Great Lakes Coalition, fortunately, because I believe Ontario is a part of it, it's now international, and other states can't just drain the Great Lakes.
00:46:52.000But the Great Lakes need to be replenished.
00:46:54.000They go down if there's too much consumption.
00:46:57.000I see what I see happening with places like San Francisco and why I'm concerned about them is that as they fall into chaos, those people who live there, they need food and they need water.
00:47:09.000They need shelter and they want security.
00:47:11.000And if that falls apart, even by their own fault, they will come and take it from you.
00:47:15.000And that means maybe they just move to where you live, and then start voting for things that destroy your systems, or maybe they stay there, it continues to decay, and then eventually, they just start going and stealing from farms, passing laws where they lock farms down, and claim property, and you get communism.
00:47:30.000I mean, how is that not happening under our federalist system we have now, though?
00:48:02.000And the funny thing is, the success of this nation gave rise to weak-minded, entitled individuals who seek to steal from others without doing any of the work.
00:48:13.000So they vote, they vote to take, and they keep doing it.
00:48:15.000And then what ends up happening is one of two things.
00:48:18.000As the system starts to break down, you either get revolution, or, well, there's a few ways.
00:48:22.000Reform is really possible, but it's really hard.
00:48:24.000You're either going to get revolution or civil war if it really does escalate to that point.
00:48:29.000And I kind of feel like when we learned the DOJ is going after Trump's lawyers, That, that, like, look man, it was already unprecedented the DOJ went after Joe Biden's political rival, Donald Trump.
00:48:43.000Now they're saying they're going to go after Trump's lawyers, the people giving him legal counsel.
00:48:47.000The government basically saying, if you provide constitutionally protected services, legal representation to someone who we oppose, we're going to lock you up.
00:49:15.000They've already made the claim that it's not free speech to incite criminal activity, right?
00:49:19.000So now when they say that Donald Trump's actions in 2020 were criminal, the next step beyond his lawyers is anyone who publicly spoke advocacy for Donald Trump's illegal actions was inciting people to commit crimes, and they're next.
00:49:34.000So, I think the South should have been allowed to secede during the Civil War, and the rewritten history about it is that it was all about slavery that had nothing to do with anything else, and that has built an American dream that it's wrong to let people leave this country, and wrong to let people do their own thing, and that it's morally correct to bind us all together as one country.
00:49:58.000If the South had actually left, I don't think, you know, the North was kind of doing what you're describing that leftists do, is always trying to reach out and get more power.
00:50:07.000They were taxing the South a lot more than they should have been.
00:50:11.000And so that type of thing is happening now, you know, the reconstruction mindset.
00:50:18.000Has really just like kept going and given us the progressive era and destroyed this country and unless we finally just break off and say, you know what?
00:50:27.000We don't know what we don't all belong under the same system.
00:50:29.000We need to have you know, different governments that you know, respect people the way they want to live and you know, I just I just think it's the only way we can go forward and then what what happens after that?
00:50:40.000I think that The leftists are always going to want more control, like you said, but the only way to not give it to them is starve them of it.
00:50:50.000What likely happens after a separation, if the United States were to break into two, and the left called it like, Jesus Land and the United States of Canada, that's the meme they put out, The next likely thing to happen is a unipolar Chinese communist planet, where trade is going to be regulated under their currency and their rules and their whims, and you're going to end up with not NATO control, but BRICS control.
00:51:12.000That could go on for several decades, maybe a hundred years, who knows?
00:51:15.000What that means for Americans is, well, for one, it could mean less war, it could mean that we can live peacefully and farm in our own states and mind our own business, but it means your standard of living drops by some odd 90%.
00:51:27.000And that's, you know, I'm not saying that's necessarily a bad thing.
00:51:32.000It props up our economy and makes Americans wealthy based on nothing.
00:51:35.000When this country splits in two, the petrodollar ceases to exist.
00:51:39.000BRICS nations basically take over the global economy and oil trade, and that means Americans have to once again start producing, and we don't.
00:51:46.000So, for those that advocate for this, the end result is going to be you will work more than you've ever worked in your life, and your standard of living will be 90% lower.
00:51:54.000Me, personally, I don't mind tending to chickens and animals and working on a farm and reading books and just working every day.
00:52:01.000These liberals, these leftists, they're going to cry.
00:52:04.000They're going to cry more than they've ever cried in their lives, and they're going to beg to bring back the petrodollar.
00:52:08.000Don't you think that's kind of an inevitability at this point, though?
00:52:13.000Yeah, I mean... Well, I mean, look, in the event that... I really do mean it.
00:52:18.000If you get a Donald Trump, a Vivek, or even a Ron DeSantis, if they win and they actually do follow through on the things they've said, it's not inevitable.
00:52:26.000There is a possibility that we come out on top of this successfully.
00:52:31.000And that's still sort of bad news for anti-war individuals because the US machine just keeps on keeping on.
00:52:36.000But to fire corrupt prosecutors, to criminally charge corrupt politicians, and to reform and restore the actual Like, I don't want to say moral framework of the past in its entirety, but the core moral frameworks of classical liberalism the Founding Fathers believed in, then things start to repair and strengthen.
00:53:01.000You've got to carve out the rot first and then rebuild.
00:53:03.000There's part of me that does think that if you can wake up the average shitlib, right, the average liberal that Gets conned into illiberal things because some authoritarian convinces them that they'll be safer or they'll be looked at, you know, as the nice guy or it's, you know, it's racist to not do this or whatever the...
00:53:28.000The con from the progressives is if you can convince your average bad liberal that they're being a bad liberal and they need to come back to things like the rule of law, the freedom of speech, that things like the rule of law has a big effect on You know, the criminal element in your cities and that has a big effect on the economy.
00:53:51.000And if you can remind liberals that these things actually do matter and that the way they've been voting and the behaviors of the politicians they're electing are actually illiberal, then I think that you could have A positive result without some kind of massive revolution, but without the people realizing that the things that they're asking the government to do are bad, illiberal, and producing the results that they actually don't like.
00:54:22.000As long as people don't realize that, as long as they think that voting for what sounds nice is the Proper course of action.
00:54:30.000There's not going to be any significant change I just wanted to also add that you know Not just on a warfare front but on an economic front ever since we've been on the petrodollar the dollar has lost You know all its value if you look 1971 we came off the gold standard and then I think in 1974 we went on the petrodollar and ever since then the dollar has just tanked so I don't think it was a I don't think it was a reliable system even with you know competent leadership I don't think it was sustainable
00:55:22.000Donald Trump shaking hands with Sonic the Hedgehog.
00:55:25.000But this one is actually the one I want you to see.
00:55:28.000Because if you were to actually remove Sonic the Hedgehog from this image, it actually looks like a real photo of Donald Trump running down the street.
00:55:36.000The average person is not going to be able to understand that this was generated by AI.
00:55:41.000Granted, we put Sonic the Hedgehog in it, so we know this is not real.
00:55:44.000But this is what I'm talking about with the political battle that's coming up.
00:55:49.000This next year, the deep fakes that we are going to see of audio of video.
00:55:54.000It's it's no one's going to know it's real.
00:55:58.000I mean, look, if Joe Biden is willing to steal the private communications of Trump and try and lock him up, you think Democrats aren't going to make fake audio of him, fake videos of him?
00:57:17.000The former president made fun of, yes, of the former New Jersey governor and 2024 Republican nomination rival in a speech in New Hampshire.
00:57:24.000It's really funny because he said, Christie, he's eating right now.
00:59:04.000I'm just saying, because, just given, like, I expect him to piss a lot of people off, but I expect him to sign tons of spending bills, and, I mean, just, just looking at how he, I mean, I know I'm a libertarian, but even if you're a conservative, judging how Trump governed, like, gun control, spending, expansion of government, like, he was just, He's the only one that looks at the security establishment, or the intelligence establishment, or whatever, as the enemy.
00:59:33.000I think that he would make significant cuts in the FBI.
00:59:37.000I think he would make changes, like a personnel change.
00:59:41.000I don't see him actually taking a hatchet to it.
00:59:43.000Do you know the extent of what he did with the drone program?
00:59:46.000I know he made it secretive and gave control to the generals, his subordinates.
00:59:50.000Yeah, I mean, they stopped recording how many drone strikes were happening under his presidency, so they don't actually know what the number is.
00:59:59.000You know, people rightly point out how many bombs Obama dropped because it was abysmal, but Trump...
01:00:06.000Uh, I think he, he didn't drop more than Obama, but he dropped, uh, more in his first four years than Obama did in either four year period.
01:00:16.000So it was, I mean, he dropped a lot of bombs.
01:00:18.000And then he, then there was a bunch off the record.
01:00:20.000We just don't know how many were dropped or where they were dropped or anything like that.
01:00:23.000Do you think that, what's your view of how we handle, say like Afghanistan or Syria, just complete instant removal of all assets and personnel?
01:00:32.000So I think, I mean, it's a mess no matter how you leave.
01:00:35.000The problem with Afghanistan, I think I talked about this last time I was on here, was the order of operations, you know, like Phil said, that you get the people out first and the military out last, but also Donald Trump had made deals with the Taliban about like, hey, we're out of here in May.
01:00:51.000And then Joe Biden came in and was dragging his feet and was like, nope, I'm going to make my own Taliban deal and we're going to leave in September.
01:00:58.000And then the Taliban was like, well, what the heck?
01:01:09.000He wanted to start withdrawing and they screwed him up.
01:01:12.000Um, that was one of the best things about his presidency was the deal with the Taliban and trying to pull him out.
01:01:17.000So the issue with the drone strikes is if you immediately remove all the troops, you get what Joe Biden did.
01:01:24.000Granted, I think Joe Biden sabotaged Afghanistan intentionally.
01:01:29.000The abandoning of Bagram Air Force Base was a psychotic move.
01:01:32.000What I see with Trump, and this is not to defend drone strikes, the US should never have been engaged in these wars, I think Trump's strategy was increase drone strikes and pull our troops out.
01:01:44.000Man, once our troops are out, decrease drone strikes, we're gone.
01:01:48.000Well, Trump increased troops in Afghanistan in the beginning of his presidency.
01:01:52.000He did start trying to pull them out eventually, but at the beginning of his presidency, on war, he was awful.
01:01:58.000Yeah, he fired 59 Tomahawks into Syria.
01:02:00.000Yeah, he was just ramping everything up.
01:02:02.000And then toward the end, he was kind of like, alright, alright, alright, you know, maybe I actually should pull some troops out.
01:02:07.000So I think one of the only ways you effectively withdraw from Afghanistan in the way that What would be to you basically use drone strikes as a placeholder as you remove personnel and then you rescind the drone strikes.
01:02:21.000You need you need a wall to stop what happened.
01:02:23.000And I think I think Joe Biden as awful as what he did gave us a window into into into how not to respond in terms of the mistakes.
01:02:32.000He did use a drone strike though after.
01:02:46.000If you are trying to actively withdraw all your troops from, say, Afghanistan, you can't just recall them all instantly.
01:02:52.000There's got to be a tapered pullback of certain areas.
01:02:54.000You obviously don't abandon Bagram Air Force Base.
01:02:57.000My point is that I think Trump's strategy, probably not even his, but probably some advisor was, Increase the drone strikes to create pressure.
01:03:17.000And then Joe Biden says, we're going to pull our troops out abruptly in the middle of the night without informing any of our partners in the region, without informing the Afghan security forces.
01:04:22.000soldiers guarding poppy fields as they were harvesting it.
01:04:24.000And that may be a component, but I think it was probably strategic access, a pincer move on Iran, access to lithium, seizing the region before China or Russia could take it, and nation building.
01:04:37.000And they use Osama bin Laden as an excuse to launch that invasion, and they use WMD as an excuse to invade Iraq.
01:05:10.0009-11, War on Terror crap, the Patriot Act, all the war that we've seen in the Middle East was started by those people.
01:05:15.000All the power that the Democrats are using against conservatives now with the Department of Homeland Security and everything, you can thank George W. Bush.
01:05:23.000I think to be fair though, we can say that Cheney was the worst president because I don't think George... I almost said that!
01:05:29.000Dick Cheney, I believe, maybe you can confirm this, Reid, that George Bush had actually given authority of the Air Force to Dick Cheney?
01:05:37.000On 9-11 it was Cheney's call whether or not to fly the planes to defend the towers.
01:05:41.000Yeah, it was Cheney's call to not shoot down the plane that hit the Pentagon.
01:05:45.000And that should have been the president's call.
01:05:47.000Yeah, but he was reading to children or something and then was on Air Force One.
01:05:52.000What a pathetic, nepotistic, daddy's boy getting into power mess of a presidency, and then they put his dad's buddy in as the VP to let him run the show.
01:06:01.000If you don't mind me going on a short side trail here, just because Vivek Ramaswamy put out a great tweet about 9-11.
01:06:11.000It was about the hijackers who flew Flight 77 into the Pentagon, Khalid al-Midar and Nawaf al-Hazmi, and how they had Saudi royalty indirectly wiring them money.
01:06:22.000Prince Bandar, who was the Saudi ambassador to the United States, wired money to Maher al-Bayoumi in the United States, and then he gave it to uh Khalid Almodar and Nawaf Al-Hazmi who later flew the plane into the pentagon and this is something that a lot of 9-11 conspiracy theorists completely miss because it's flashy and sexy and everything to deny a plane hitting the pentagon or deny a plane going down at shanksville but if you just deny these things instead of looking into it you actually find out that the true anomalies
01:06:55.000of people doing shady things are mostly involved with Flight 93 and Flight 77.
01:07:22.000Like, there was no connection, and then all of a sudden in the last two years, more documents came out that show the connection to the Saudi Prince.
01:07:30.000So, he says, Mike Pence says today that he was deeply offended that I don't trust that the government told us the truth in the 9-11 commission report.
01:07:37.000He says, well, I find it offensive that our government repeatedly lies to us.
01:07:41.000The FBI quietly declassified documents in 2021 that definitively reveal the government lied to the public about basic facts of Saudi Arabia's involvement in 9-11, until documents were declassified and they changed their story 20 years later.
01:07:53.000Omar al-Bayoumi, a 42-year-old graduate student, welcomed, housed, set up bank accounts, and gave rent money to the first two al-Qaeda hijackers.
01:08:02.000After they landed in Los Angeles in January of 2000, Al Baioumi claimed to have met the two terrorists entirely by chance.
01:08:08.000The 9-11 Commission report verified that Baioumi's altruism was in the name of hospitality, as he claimed.
01:08:14.000The FBI 20 years later changed its story.
01:08:16.000In documents declassified last year, the Bureau affirmed that Biaomi was in fact an agent of the Saudi intelligence service who worked with Saudi religious officials and reported to the kingdom's powerful ambassador in Washington.
01:08:27.000government officials continue to lie about other matters of public importance, the origin of COVID, knowledge about UAPs, Hunter Biden's laptop, and how our money is actually being spent in Ukraine.
01:08:38.000The Nashville Shooter's Manifesto, with a complicit media that just accepts the prevailing narrative without question.
01:08:46.000There is no credible evidence that 9-11 was an inside job, but ironically, when the government systematically lies about Saudi involvement, and the media runs interference, that lends plausibility to an otherwise unlikely claim.
01:08:59.000With all due respect to the former VP, the reason that people don't trust the government is because the government doesn't trust the people.
01:09:12.000I think, to be honest, I don't think he's going to win.
01:09:14.000He'd need to be selected somehow, like Obama was.
01:09:18.000Well, Deep State needs to get involved.
01:09:20.000I'm surprised he's not polling higher already, considering he's broken into second place a couple times, and in the prediction markets he has.
01:09:32.000Well he basically, he echoed or just talked about exactly what we were just talking about, that 20 years after the 9-11 Commission report had lied to the American people about the terrorists' involvement with the Saudi Prince, they didn't even bring up the Saudi Prince maybe at the time, I don't know, 20 years later they admit we were lying, that the Saudi Prince was involved in funding these guys.
01:09:49.000When Donald Trump said that Chris Christie was probably eating, he said Vivek is catching up on DeSantis and he's good.
01:10:39.000You know, he talked about finding out what really happened on 9-11 when he ran in 2016, and then when he's president, he's over there with the Saruman ball with them, you know, and, you know, dancing with the sword and, you know, just forgetting about Khashoggi and all that.
01:11:31.000Like, what he's talking about here is the real deal.
01:11:33.000I mean, so many people get distracted by, I'm gonna just call them dumb conspiracies, like no planes or, you know, like stuff that doesn't matter.
01:12:17.000You know, you see this, and we had the story that we kicked off with about that guy in Provo who the FBI killed, and it seems like, I mean, look, it seems like violence is on the horizon.
01:12:28.000And then you think about the fact that, or the story about Andy's, Andy Ngo's situation yesterday, how the entire court seemed to be against him.
01:12:59.000And my opinion and assumption on what they probably did was, hey, you guys actually did it, so don't show up.
01:13:07.000They'll hold you in default, you'll lose, but we don't want it on the record that you actually did it.
01:13:14.000Then those who weren't involved will go, say I wasn't involved, I didn't attack them, and then you'll get a trial where it's Andy no loses.
01:13:22.000So he won against a couple of defendants already.
01:13:32.000They're in default, so they made no argument.
01:13:36.000Yeah, to what extent, I'm not entirely sure.
01:13:38.000Against the guys who likely attacked him, they probably... And apparently one of the guys showed up after the fact, if he was already found in default.
01:13:44.000He tried showing up in the stands or whatever.
01:13:46.000But the story about Trump and the judge, and the judge getting more security, apparently people are saying that the judge is... that basically what's happening is they're insinuating there are very serious threats from the right against the judge because of things Trump's been saying, and they're trying to make it look like Trump is a persistent and consistent threat.
01:14:05.000I support them getting security for any judge at this point, but I do agree that I think this maybe is a play to make it look like the guy that's got a preside over them.
01:14:28.000And if you look at the past couple of years, you know, you've got Justice Steve Scalise was shot by a Bernie Sanders supporter.
01:14:37.000You got people showing up at Supreme Court justices' houses saying that they're, oh, we're going to, you know, I came here because I was going to kill the guy.
01:14:45.000Yeah, but Phil, a guy dressed up in a buffalo costume and went into the Capitol once.
01:14:49.000He was on Michael Malice's show, by the way.
01:15:39.000Coincidentally, he's also influential when it comes to queer theory.
01:15:43.000He wrote this book called Eros and Civilization.
01:15:45.000He wrote a book called One Dimensional Man.
01:15:47.000But all these things that we're seeing in reality here in society now, these things are all At least outlined in leftist theory books decades and decades ago.
01:16:01.000They're just manifesting in reality now.
01:16:02.000All this stuff is completely predictable and you can see, you can just go and find the arguments and read the arguments for this behavior if you want to.
01:16:12.000It's not like the right is making it up.
01:16:14.000Is it fair to say that Marcus was writing like a playbook of how to win a cultural revolution in the United States?
01:16:21.000I don't know that he was writing a playbook.
01:16:23.000I think that he was more A philosopher overall than an actual tactician, but possibly.
01:16:43.000I thought that was like Salilinsky's stuff.
01:16:46.000That guy rules radicals and he was really like a tactics dude.
01:16:54.000Maybe someone like Mark Hughes was a strategy guy, and then Olinsky was more of a tactics guy.
01:16:59.000You know, like an on-the-street, or on the ground, how you actually affect these ideas, or make these ideas manifest in reality.
01:17:07.000I want to pull up this tweet from Julie Kelly.
01:17:10.000She tweets, Jack Smith errantly claimed that Trump was a flight risk to convince Judge Beryl Howell to prevent Trump from knowing about the Twitter search warrant.
01:17:20.000Beryl Howell agreed that Trump would flee from prosecution, writing, the district court also found reason to believe the former president would flee from prosecution.
01:17:28.000The government later acknowledged, however, that it errantly included flight from prosecution as a predicate in its application.
01:17:35.000They have already laid the groundwork to remand Trump to custody under the idea that he will flee if they try to convict him.
01:17:44.000And so this is what I was saying before.
01:17:47.000If the charges against Donald Trump are legitimate, if they genuinely believe it, Trump would be locked up right now.
01:19:40.000But there are many people Throughout history, who have been jailed by their government or political rivals, and then later get out and then win.
01:19:49.000Hitler is the first one that comes to mind.
01:20:25.000And in order to get him to win with the support of the people, you need to make him into the martyr into the victim that people are willing to get behind.
01:20:47.000Mmm, they would they would have been on the opposite side.
01:20:49.000They would have said oh, no, you know Yeah, they would have been like resisting the tyranny of Joe Biden where with Donald Trump saying hey guys We got to do this, you know all the red states kind of like, okay, whatever.
01:20:59.000So some day, that's a word Yeah, but the the argument would be How do you get a libertarian to vote for a Republican president?
01:21:30.000Because we've heard that conspiracy over and over again.
01:21:32.000They're gonna make a one-world government currency.
01:21:34.000You know, Alex Jones has been talking about it for decades.
01:21:36.000I'm like, well, you gotta get the crackpot conspiracy theorists to be the ones pushing and advocating for it.
01:21:42.000Because you come out against them, then you get that whole network of people paying attention to politics, they're against you and they don't want to do it.
01:21:48.000So then I see Bitcoin, and all of a sudden I see the likes of these anarchists, anti-establishment, conspiracy theorist types, all saying it's the future and you have to use it.
01:21:57.000And I'm like, so this, this, you're calling it, I don't know if they call it a currency these days or whatever, but this like global financial transaction system that can be tracked by anyone at any point.
01:22:41.000That sounds a little... The guys in Tower Gang are going to punish me for that comment.
01:22:48.000I like that you can create your own crypto and use it locally for things, even though the government would want to take taxes from you, you can still do it.
01:22:55.000And things like, someone just texted Monero.
01:23:33.000If he went and he said that he was in Florida, I imagine he wouldn't get remanded to... It's gonna be a federal judge who says, like, we're gonna release you, but you have to stay in a certain area because we want to make sure that you don't flee, blah blah blah.
01:24:06.000So what I find interesting is they can't, you know, prosecute him for war crimes because they'd be complicit in the same things they tried to go after, you know.
01:25:39.000I mean, I would like to think that could happen, because it's a very low bar.
01:25:42.000Like, all we gotta do is stop sending billions of dollars and the war ends.
01:25:46.000Which, the media's even starting to admit that now, that Ukraine can't win the war.
01:25:49.000Boris Johnson went there and disrupted peace agreements.
01:25:52.000So, yeah, NATO countries want, they want war.
01:25:55.000I mean, look, I think many in the West, United States particularly, are saying, this is our chance to, it's a casus belli for war with Russia.
01:26:03.000We needed a way to justify war with Russia, and now we have it, but Russia needs to push harder, Russia needs to attack a NATO country so that NATO can invade Russia.
01:26:15.000And they'll keep doing it until Russia has no choice.
01:26:17.000I wouldn't be surprised if you get NATO military forces firing from inside NATO territory at Russians.
01:26:23.000You've already got a story about a Russian strike that it was 600 feet from Romania or something like that, so we're getting dangerously close.
01:26:29.000Donald Trump is going to go in and be like, nope, no more fighting.
01:26:32.000He's going to go to Ukraine and be like, you're not getting any more money from us.
01:26:35.000And they're going to go, okay, we want peace.
01:26:54.000They'll try over and over and over and over and over.
01:26:56.000One big problem with your theory I have is Lindsey Graham, how close that guy still is with Trump.
01:27:03.000I mean, he is like the epitome of everything we're talking about.
01:27:07.000I think Donald Trump wants revenge too much.
01:27:13.000When he goes in, he is going to be just screaming at the top of his lungs.
01:27:18.000I'm not saying it's absolute, I'm just saying what they've done to him now, assuming it's all on the level, raiding his house, going after his family, whatever, he's gonna go and he's gonna scream at these people.
01:27:29.000He's gonna be like, you're weak, you stabbed me in the back, Lindsey Graham?
01:27:32.000Sure, maybe, but Lindsey Graham, what's he doing to help Trump right now?
01:28:15.000I don't want to assume too much, but it seems like Trump's not in a very good state of mind relative to 2016 when he was like, we're going to make America great.
01:28:20.000He was talking about making things great.
01:28:22.000Now he's talking about like, I'm going to go get them.
01:28:27.000I mean, in 2016, he talked about the Federal Reserve and the bubble economy we've created and how lowering interest rates artificially is going to cause problems.
01:29:15.000I want someone that's going to go in there and disassemble portions of the government.
01:29:21.000I want someone that's going to go in there and get them.
01:29:25.000I want someone that looks at them as a problem that needs to be remedied.
01:29:30.000The bureaucracy in Washington needs to be disassembled.
01:29:36.000That's the biggest problem the United States has right now is the massive amounts of bureaucracy.
01:29:42.000Probably the security apparatus that was built after 9-11 has to be totally disassembled.
01:29:48.000It has to be because it's been turned on the American people now.
01:29:51.000So whoever's going to do the most disassembling, and I mean it, whoever's going to do the most damage to the bureaucracy, and by damage I mean disassembling, like taking it apart, firing people, Like getting rid of people that are working for the government.
01:30:11.000I'm talking about serious, serious cuts to the government.
01:30:15.000We get a lot of people coming in here and talking about like, oh I want to do this and I want to do that and stuff.
01:30:21.000I want the guys that are like, I'm going to take the government apart because it's too big.
01:30:26.000It's the biggest government in human history and it's It has so much redundancy, so much unnecessary power, and it violates the rights of people in the United States in every imaginable way.
01:30:43.000Every single bill, every single amendment in the Bill of Rights is violated in some way nowadays by the federal government, and we should take the government apart and stop them.
01:30:55.000I'm concerned about the methodology, because the two guys that I've been talking about are Trump and Ramaswamy.
01:31:00.000And Vivek's pretty articulate and architectural about the way he wants to end certain programs, replace them with some, or in some instances not replace them with anything.
01:31:10.000As opposed to what I'm hearing from Trump, and I haven't really talked to him about it, is, I want to go get them.
01:31:38.000He's gonna be on his computer, Google, how to disassemble federal government.
01:31:41.000And then he'll have to rely on advice and the people that play shell games with him will be like, yeah, actually you can't disassemble that one.
01:32:43.000I'm talking about the government broadly, the bureaucracy.
01:32:46.000So I don't care if you talk about how you describe it.
01:32:50.000I want the function of the bureaucracy currently to end and the people that work in the bureaucracy to work in other fields that are no longer in the government.
01:33:01.000And then I want the buildings that house the bureaucracy to be razed to the ground or sold.
01:33:10.000Actual elimination of government bureaucracy not restructure not give it or move it around Not a shell game.
01:33:18.000I'm talking about get rid of jobs in the government because I want the government Smaller than it is and there's and I think there's too many people that that will say that especially even or even Libertarians or small government people they'll say oh we want to limit this and limit that but then they would never ever say I want to Get rid of jobs.
01:33:38.000They'll never actually say they want to make real cuts.
01:34:26.000What I'm saying is get rid of whatever the function that this agency does, whatever their job is, make the government no longer have that job.
01:34:38.000So it's not getting rid of ideology, it's removing a function of the government.
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01:34:57.000And right now, I put up a poll on YouTube.
01:35:00.000Should we keep Rise with Roberto Jr., or create a memorial blend for Roberto Jr.?
01:35:06.000As of right now, 73% think we should immortalize Rise with Roberto Jr.
01:35:14.000That is the dominant preference among all of you.
01:35:17.000What I'm going to do is, we will alter the art on the existing Rise with Roberto Junior coffee blend to add his date of birth and his date of death and in memoriam on the back, but we will keep it in every other way the same.
01:35:33.000Which means, the existing bags that we have, we actually have a few thousand that are still available, We'll be the last time those are printed, but we will keep it overwhelmingly the same.
01:35:43.000I just feel like I don't want to do nothing.
01:35:45.000I don't want to just have the same thing like we did nothing, you know, Roberto Jr.
01:35:48.000Our favorite rooster, he dies, and we're just like, yeah, we'll just keep him.
01:35:51.000We'll make a new bag art, so that means that the existing art will be unique, and then there will be a very, very, very similar, but we'll say, in memoriam, with his, you know, life on the back.
01:39:19.000I don't know, not full control, but definitely strong influence.
01:39:23.000Ryan Spaulding says, the cover art of Megadeth's The System Has Failed album really resonates with current events, and that album was released in the early 2000s.
01:42:33.000None of your guests can even say his name right, and they are politically clued in.
01:42:37.000I think that I don't necessarily disagree with that.
01:42:41.000The fact that no one can say his name actually matters, because the dude has been speaking a lot.
01:42:46.000Now, granted, people are going to read things phonetically.
01:42:49.000They're going to say Vivek when his name is Vivek.
01:42:51.000But it seems like no matter how many times we've brought it up, no matter how many times it comes up, we've even corrected people on the show and they still won't say his name.
01:42:58.000Also, Morrowind, Elder Scrolls III, Vivec's one of the gods, V-I-V-E-C.
01:43:04.000It's spelled a little different, so Vivec is in the consciousness already, but it's Vivec.
01:43:07.000But we've had guests where we'll be like, it's Vivec, like cake.
01:43:51.000If you have a stack of papers in your office laying on a desk, the Fourth Amendment protects them from the government walking up and just grabbing them and reading them.
01:44:08.000And you've got paper sitting on your desk.
01:44:10.000So the government goes to the building's owner and says, we're gonna go in and take all these private messages because they're actually yours because they're in your building.
01:45:40.000Because he's got history and behavior that shows that he endorses those things.
01:45:47.000The most recent stuff could possibly be changing for what is politically expedient, whereas the things that he has said consistently in the past probably reflect his real opinions.
01:46:04.000So that's that's why. Silence do-betters has only three percent of the American population
01:46:10.000participated in the revolution. It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate,
01:46:15.000tireless minority keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men. Samuel Adams.
01:46:20.000Wow. I feel like it's easier to fight a war back then than it is now,
01:46:26.000like with the spread of information and with the amount of porn on the Internet.
01:46:58.000And now you have high-speed projectile weapons that can penetrate through a shield, hit your arm, hit you in the leg, break through your armor, even rip through plate.
01:47:05.000So once they advance between, you know, from chainmail to plate, now you've still got offensive capabilities.
01:47:11.000Now all of a sudden, armor made no sense.
01:47:13.000It's like, the musket ball's gonna rip through whatever you're wearing anyway.
01:47:16.000So, you're better off having a light soldier who can carry more and move faster, because we're using muskets.
01:47:22.000We do have bulletproof vests, we do have all these things, but the reality of warfare is, today, you have cyber capabilities.
01:47:28.000The ability to manipulate hundreds of millions of people overnight, instantly.
01:47:32.000Viruses to destroy their economy, and take out their electrical plants, their grid.
01:47:39.000In the snap of a finger, the entire grid in the world could be shut down.
01:47:42.000I'm sure that every government has a button they could press because they've already hacked and installed viruses on everyone else's machines.
01:47:48.000So we don't even need the minute, you know, time frame for the ICBM to launch into the air to shut a city down.
01:47:53.000Now they can just click a button and the grid's gone.
01:47:56.000Right, I think, like, war in general is easier to fight, but the likelihood of someone in this country grabbing a rifle and heading to go fight a war, I think that is less, just because of the amount of ease people live with now, the amount of technology that makes their life enjoyable.
01:48:13.000I mean, back in the day... But that's acting like, you know, people can afford their rent and people can afford food.
01:48:21.000There's an entire... Right, but I think those things have to go before... Like any revolution.
01:49:16.000But, but, uh, I will also add, saying that it's harder for people today to pick up, like, a rifle or something, uh, it, there's always organization to these conflicts.
01:49:24.000I think anybody who's, like, thinking they're gonna run out and grab a gun is stupid, and they shouldn't do anything like that.
01:49:28.000We want to win where the conflict actually occurs.
01:49:35.000And I would say it's like saying people are much less likely to pick up a sword today.
01:49:40.000It's like, well, that's not the effective means of conflict.
01:49:41.000The effective means of conflict today are manipulation of the mind, social media.
01:49:45.000I think people just still think of a generic civil war.
01:49:49.000When they hear that term, they think of like North and South or Republicans and Democrats like grabbing their guns and fighting each other.
01:51:43.000Dreadnought Trucking LLC says, if somehow either Trump's beat the charges on his own or the Supreme Court gets involved, I am predicting now with 200% confidence that Vivek will be Trump's VP and in 28 it will be Vivek as Prez and Rand Paul as VP.
01:52:38.000And so one of them's gonna have to be Roberto III.
01:52:41.000Yeah, they would do that in the Middle Ages, too, if someone would just take a new name as, like, the seventh or something, you know, the Scottish king would be coming.
01:53:05.000Paul Tascalo says, Tim, I'm a 38-year-old lawyer.
01:53:08.000I feel a call to use my skills for good.
01:53:10.000I'd love to contribute to the show, plus share my stories, experience with classified docs, FISA warrants, national security, presidential pardons, Obama, and nuclear weapons.
01:53:45.000Diego Rivera says, Reed, can you explain how Defend the Guard uses radical decentralization to rein in the war party?
01:53:51.000Yeah, so Defend the Guard is a state-by-state legislation that makes it impossible for the president to send troops overseas unless there has been a declaration of war.
01:54:03.000We have not declared war since World War II, but of course we've been to Vietnam, you know, Afghanistan, Iraq.
01:54:14.000So, actually during Hurricane Katrina, I think 60% of Louisiana's National Guard was in Iraq.
01:54:21.000Um, just to show you, like, how many National Guardsmen end up over there.
01:54:26.000So, this would be passed state by state, and every state that passes it would disallow the government from sending National Guard troops unless Congress passes a declaration of war, which is a 60% majority, which is pretty hard to do.
01:54:40.000And also, if a congressman is actually signing his name behind a war, you know, that takes a little bit of selling to the public and a little bit of responsibility, so it's a lot harder to happen than The president just deciding to send people somewhere for some military operation.
01:54:55.000It hasn't passed in any state yet, but it passed, I think, the Senate in Arizona.
01:55:00.000And, uh, I forget what other state it passed.
01:56:00.000You go to his Wikipedia, it says, he's an American environmental lawyer, politician, and writer known for advocating anti-vaccine misinformation.
01:56:20.000Like, if you're going to something that doesn't really get touched by politics, or that's somewhat insulated from politics, it's pretty good.
01:56:28.000If you go to things that can be touched by politics, it's getting really bad.
01:58:39.000Technology portfolio includes, blah blah blah, clinical trial data for pharmaceutical development, blah blah blah.
01:58:44.000I mean, I think if you have a concern, a legitimate concern, Jason Dobson, I respect and agree with it, you should start looking into the company and see what you find, and then we should talk about it.
01:58:55.000You know, he ran a company, what did his company do?
01:58:57.000There's criticisms over how Trump ran his company, sure, and then, I think for the most part, I'm not super concerned with the real estate, you know, company and what he was doing, and the left certainly is.
01:59:05.000But, uh, you know, what's inherently wrong with making drugs to cure diseases or whatever?
01:59:11.000If he was treating symptoms and perpetuating a lot of awful garbage, I think we ask him about it.
01:59:27.000Well, I guess, yeah, I guess people mostly agree we should keep Rise with Alberto Jr., but I think we'll just write on the back, you know, of all future bags.
01:59:46.000The coffee is then brewed in short, in small batches and made fresh.
01:59:53.000And then packaged and sent off, so it's relatively small batches.
01:59:57.000So I think we have like 5,000 bags, empty, ready to be loaded when we start selling more product.
02:00:04.000So after this run, which is, there's 5,000 so, you know, you'll probably have some time if you want to buy one, there will no longer be the original bag.
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