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00:02:50.000All the organizations, of course, that we would hope Fox would be against because they stand for all the things that Fox's audience wants destroyed in the United States, but here we are.
00:02:58.000Whistleblowers from Fox News have revealed that the company uses an app called FoxGiving to match employee donations to approved organizations, which again include the Satanic Temple, the Trevor Project, which by the way, for those of you who have been following the show, know has a chatroom portal that they advertise to minors that allows for you to speak to an adult about your sexual identity, and if you hit the escape button three times, it clears your entire browser history.
00:03:26.000Yeah, so if that's not bad enough, of course they're also matching donations to Planned Parenthood and the SPLC.
00:03:33.000They're willing to match donations up to $1,000.
00:03:35.000So the whistleblowers took the story to The Blaze, which reports that Fox is going to subsidize some of the very activist groups that despise and seek to ruin the network's viewers.
00:03:45.000Evidencing a complete disregard and hatred for its core audience.
00:03:49.000We've seen a lot of shenanigans from the people over at Fox lately.
00:03:52.000Them getting rid of Tucker Carlson was certainly, in my estimation, a blunder on their part.
00:03:57.000I also think it was bad for the American people.
00:03:59.000The way I've described this in the past is that CNN tells you what you're supposed to believe, And then Fox exists to tell you what you're allowed to believe.
00:04:06.000If you're not going to swallow what they're trying to give you over at CNN, Fox offers you this alternative that's still somewhat market safe, it's still somewhat PC, and they tell you this is the outer limit, this is the boundary.
00:04:15.000Once you've hit this, you can't go further to the right or else you're a nutjob and a conspiracy theorist.
00:04:19.000Part of the value of Tucker Carlson on that network was that he pushed that Overton window further to the right.
00:04:41.000I haven't seen any comments from them yet.
00:04:43.000And I will say there are a lot of corporations that offer this type of match-giving, right?
00:04:47.000So Google did this for a long time, and I know that there were cases of employees Opting to donate to conservative causes and Google said, no, we won't do it.
00:04:56.000And so for me, I can't, I don't personally know the whistleblower Fox, but I would love to see what organizations Fox is denying.
00:05:05.000If they're saying yes to the SPLC, if they're saying yes to It's just hard for me to believe that Fox would do that, particularly with an organization like SPLC.
00:05:18.000I mean, this is an organization that once called Dr. Ben Carson a hate monger.
00:05:22.000And so I just, I'm a little skeptical.
00:05:25.000I'd like to see what Fox has said in response because there are a lot of people that are mad at Fox and they come forward, they give a story and next thing you know, people run with it.
00:05:33.000So I just, I'm skeptical all the time and I'm skeptical about this too.
00:06:03.000And we started to put it off for one week.
00:06:05.000I'm happy we didn't because then we would have been on somebody else's show.
00:06:07.000We ended up being on the highest rated show in the primetime.
00:06:10.000So you believe that Fox is essentially, it's the outer limits of what you're allowed to believe publicly without being considered like far-right.
00:06:17.000Like, do not pass Go, do not become OAN.
00:07:03.000The thing is, I do feel as though I have to raise a question of First Amendment rights, right?
00:07:09.000So, and I'm not an expert in this, but if a company offers to match your giving, if it's wrong for Google to say we won't match your gift to a right-wing organization we disagree with, is it wrong for Fox to say we won't give money to a left-wing organization that you choose to pay?
00:07:52.000I'm sure Larry was more equipped to answer that one, but in terms of the moral question, I don't think there's anything wrong with Fox saying, no, we would be unwilling to match a donation to organizations that despise our viewers and everything we stand for.
00:08:05.000I mean... But legally, I'm curious what you'd have to say about that.
00:09:17.000I mean, that's what Project Veritas found out about CNN.
00:09:20.000A couple of people were on tape and they were upset about Jeffrey Zucker and about how every morning he would have a nine o'clock meeting or whatever hour it was, basically telling people what to say, and this guy was ticked off about it.
00:09:29.000He said he had a personal vendetta against Donald Trump, tell us just what to say, to the exclusion of other issues.
00:09:34.000So there are people within probably every organization that feels that way.
00:09:37.000Do you think that the trajectory Fox has been on, where they've lost some of the support, you know, since the election and what's going on now, obviously since Tucker has gone, does that fall in line kind of with Project Veritas since the exit of James O'Keefe, where I see people, like I still follow Project Veritas on social media, but I don't see the same kind of vigor for the cause that you saw there before?
00:10:00.000Like it feels like they've lost the momentum that they had before?
00:10:03.000Well, in my opinion, it's hard to say that people like Mark Levin or Sean Hannity are not aggressive and not passionate.
00:10:11.000But I do think Fox underestimated how popular Tucker Carlson was and how much he meant to the whole organization.
00:10:16.000It reminds me of when Johnny Carson was on Late Night and when he'd go on vacation, the Today Show or whatever show it was in the morning, the Today Show, would have lower ratings.
00:10:26.000Oh, I meant more like the audience vigor.
00:10:29.000I felt like the support behind those organizations from their audience feels like it's better.
00:10:37.000Yeah, I mean, I think that is a good point.
00:10:39.000For me, Fox is interesting for a lot of reasons.
00:10:43.000One of the things that I would question is if the audience are reacting to The content and the content is ultimately driven by executive decisions.
00:10:52.000And of course, we'd have to kind of examine what's going on with the Murdoch family to completely understand the direction that Fox is taking.
00:10:58.000And I'm not sure how to speculate on that.
00:11:00.000But I know that, you know, as as leadership changes hands, of course, there can be questions about the direction of the network, right?
00:11:09.000I also find that, you know, again, I think there's a place for conservative media, of course, and of course there should be conservative voice in mainstream media, but because we tend to work on alternative media, we work on, you know, the internet, emerging media, The thing that I love about conservative audiences is that they are always willing to seek new sources and I find that to be refreshing.
00:11:30.000In some ways Fox has to compete with more because we are growing stronger than CNN sort of mainstream media does because I just don't see the same parallel to what we are building here on the left.
00:11:41.000They take their CNN, they set it and forget it and just use that as their source for everything, as their source of information for everything, whereas people who tend to be right-leaning are excited to go out and explore new avenues of people to listen to.
00:11:55.000I think, Brett, the miscalculation was that Fox, historically, they've seen big names depart.
00:12:05.000You know, a lot of people have left and nothing happened.
00:12:08.000And I think they assumed that the organization was bigger than any one individual and they underestimated how big Tucker Carlson was.
00:12:14.000Yeah, I mean he was absolutely massive and people really loved him.
00:12:17.000Part of what I valued so much about him were the things I laid out earlier about the fact that he was willing to entertain and even promote ideas that other people in the mainstream weren't.
00:12:25.000What he was saying about January 6th and Ray Epps were things that I was very surprised to hear on television.
00:12:31.000And about Ukraine, I mean, and these are things that really lended credibility to this narrative, not just because he was saying it on television, that's huge in terms of optics, but also because he was supplying good evidence for this story.
00:12:43.000And so when he released the Jan 6 tapes on television, I thought that was a massive victory for truth and for the fight against the hegemonic narrative that the left-wing media forces the American people to stomach.
00:12:54.000And so when he left you had a lot of conservatives saying things like, ultimately this is really good for Tucker Carlson because he's better off without Fox and I don't think anyone was or is doubtful that he's going to be tremendously successful at whatever he does.
00:13:09.000But what was really sad for me was that even though I was well aware of the fact that he'd be successful, there is something about the credibility that television lends to a person that makes their ideas more palatable to the American people.
00:13:20.000Yeah, like people were talking about, because he did his interview on Tucker on Twitter with Andrew Tate, which cracked like, what, 80 to 100 million viewers.
00:13:29.000And they were trying to pass it off as like, this is the most watched interview of all time.
00:13:33.000The problem is, when you look at that list, it's all ABC, NBC.
00:13:36.000It's a lot of 60 Minutes, Diane Sawyer.
00:13:38.000So it automatically is kind of discounted by people because they're like, what is a view?
00:13:43.000On Twitter, a view is just somebody scrolling past it.
00:13:45.000So the legitimacy that being on a network slot at a specific time gives credibility in a way that's a lot easier if you're trying to share something with somebody who may not be informed on what you're talking about.
00:13:57.000It's a big, big pleasure that he no longer has.
00:14:28.000But when you're in that position, it's kind of an inevitability that you're going to get pushed off of the network, especially if they're trying to stand by their advertisers rather than ensuring that the The viewers get the truth on those matters.
00:14:39.000One of the things that I think is really a testament to Tucker Carlson and the work that he did was after, you know, when he was let go from Fox, I believe around the same week Don Lemon was let go from CNN.
00:14:49.000And when Don Lemon was let go, everyone was speculating, is this because of the extremely ignorant comments that he made to Vivek?
00:14:55.000Is this because of him saying that women aren't in their prime past their 40s in front of those women?
00:15:01.000When Tucker got let go, was it this story?
00:15:05.000I mean, people were talking about important journalistic work that the establishment might not like.
00:15:09.000When Don Lemon got let go, no one was thinking, oh, you know, that one story he told really shook up the establishment and ruffled a lot of feathers.
00:15:15.000It was petty drama that people were speculating he had to have been let go over.
00:15:18.000And it's not just true of Don Lemon, that's most journalists today.
00:15:22.000Well, when Don Lemon was let go, the issue to me was, what took him so long?
00:15:27.000He's one of the dumbest people on television, always playing the race card, hated Donald Trump, referred to him as a racist, I could go on and on and on, but he even took a shot at me one time.
00:15:58.000Yeah, I was going to say that's not like he's not demonstrating his own intelligence there.
00:16:02.000I think that's one of the things about personalities in media that I find so interesting, especially when we contrast Tucker.
00:16:08.000Obviously, I have never had Don Lemon specifically attack me, but someone who feels as though they are a benefit to the institution, that CNN is better because Don Lemon is there, that type of I'm going to use the word self-confidence, but I really, really mean his ego, is toxic.
00:16:27.000And I think that really inhibits someone's performance in work.
00:16:30.000Whereas Tucker Carlson, despite the fact that he got big, really did continue to push to have truth and to see this mission and connect to his viewers.
00:16:38.000And I just, you know, I don't see the same trajectory of Don Lemon's career.
00:16:43.000And so they become different value assets.
00:16:45.000To Fox, Tucker was a risk in a lot of ways, but Don Lemon was just a drain on resources.
00:16:49.000That's a very polite way of saying hand it clear that Don Lemon is dumb and Tucker Carlson is not.
00:16:55.000I was on Don Lemon's show once, I think the last time I was on, shockingly, and we're talking about racism.
00:17:03.000And I pointed out that Time and CNN some years ago had done a study of black teenagers.
00:17:08.000And they asked him whether or not race was a major problem in America, and the majority of them said yes.
00:17:12.000But then they asked the black teenagers whether racism was a big problem, a small problem, or no problem in their own daily life.
00:17:19.00089% of the black teens said, a small problem or no problem in my own daily life.
00:17:22.000In fact, more black teens than white teens said, failure to take advantage of available opportunities was a bigger problem than racism.
00:17:49.000This is one of the things I've said repeatedly.
00:17:51.000When people talk about BLM, for example, they act as if this is an organization that speaks for black people.
00:17:55.000I don't remember any focus group going into black neighborhoods and asking them what kind of political change they'd like to see and then forming an organization around it.
00:18:02.000It sounds to me like there were people who also had black skin who claimed that they speak for every other black person and started pushing far-left Marxist talking points.
00:18:09.000Do you know what incident started BLM?
00:18:18.000And as you know, George Zimmerman was found not guilty of shooting and killing Trayvon Martin.
00:18:22.000There were no blacks on the jury, but there was a black juror.
00:18:27.000And those jurors who spoke publicly afterwards said that race never came up.
00:18:33.000And the black juror said, alternate said, that he would have found him not guilty as well and race never came up.
00:18:38.000What's interesting to me about the George Floyd riots, the four months we had in 2020, is that the lead prosecutor in the case was a black man.
00:18:46.000And I was a trial lawyer when I practiced law.
00:18:50.000And the most important part of a trial is your opening statement.
00:18:52.000And he took pains to say that the police in general were not on trial.
00:18:57.000The Minneapolis PD in general was not on trial.
00:18:58.000This individual named Derek Chauvin was on trial for what he did or what he didn't do.
00:19:02.000He never even implied what he did had to do with race and Chauvin was never charged with a hate crime.
00:19:07.000Yet you had four months of people in the streets.
00:19:09.000Because the assumption was because of what Chauvin did had to do with George Floyd's race even though the prosecutor never even implied it.
00:19:16.000Yeah, that whole... What's that all about?
00:19:18.000Well, also, I want to mention this with the Trayvon... Because at the end they were saying, you know, this was obviously racially motivated, which... Yeah, which is nonsense, but in the... I remember with the Trayvon story, NBC actually came out and they had to apologize for this later, which was just shocking that any media outlet was willing to do that.
00:19:33.000Maybe it's because this was about 10 years ago and they wouldn't do it today.
00:19:37.000But they edited the recording of the call that Zimmerman made to the police.
00:19:42.000They asked him to describe Zimmerman, and he said he looked like he was up to no good.
00:19:46.000And then they asked him to describe what he was wearing, and he said something like, he's wearing a hoodie, it's black.
00:19:50.000And they sliced the phone call down, so they said, how does he look?
00:19:54.000And he responds in the edited tape, he looks like he's up to no good, he looks black.
00:20:03.000There's a website called Policemag.com, and they ask people who are self-described as very liberal, how many unarmed black men did the police kill in 2019?
00:20:13.000Half of them thought the police killed 1,000.
00:20:16.000And then people who are self-described as liberal, 39% of them thought the police killed 1,000 unarmed black men in 2019, and 5% thought they killed 10,000.
00:20:24.000The answer was 12 according to the Washington Post database.
00:20:27.000Yeah, that's how deluded people are between what's really going on what they think is going on
00:20:31.000In fact, the police kill more unarmed whites every year than they kill unarmed blacks
00:20:34.000I bet most people in this audience could probably not name an unarmed white person
00:20:37.000Hmm because media doesn't give a rip. Well, and not only that but when you actually look at that
00:20:41.000Post that was published on the number of black men who were killed by the police while not being armed and you go
00:20:46.000through the specific One of them was he was attacking the police officer.
00:20:50.000Okay, so and there were others like attacking an old lady just because you're unarmed doesn't mean you're not a threat to somebody else's life.
00:21:00.000And there's a guy in a famous case named Amadou Diablo in New York, I think I'm mispronouncing his name, an immigrant, and he fit the description of somebody, and they had him in some sort of alley, they told him to show his hands, show his hands, and he reaches for his wallet, and they shoot him.
00:21:15.000Hillary referred to the cops as murderers.
00:21:16.000They were found not guilty because the gesture was reasonably perceived as a threatening gesture.
00:21:25.000You are not supposed to reach for anything.
00:21:28.000When anyone has a gun pointed at you, when a police officer has a gun pointed at you or they're telling you you're under arrest, whatever it is, they don't even have to have the gun drawn, do not reach into your pockets.
00:21:37.000And all the time we hear people saying, oh, well, you know, as a black person with children, I constantly have to tell them, When the cops pull you over, don't reach into your wallet, don't reach into your glove box.
00:21:57.000And it's getting people killed because it's called the George Floyd effect or the Ferguson effect.
00:22:00.000And that's the phenomenon of cops pulling back from their normal proactive policing.
00:22:04.000So the last few years there are thousands of people who are dead or who have been injured who otherwise would not have suffered if the police had been doing their normal proactive policing.
00:22:11.000And the so-called excess casualties or deaths are the very black and brown people that people on the left purport to care about.
00:22:22.000It's sad, too, because I'm from Minnesota.
00:22:27.000The North Minneapolis Police, for a lot of years, not a great reputation.
00:22:32.000There is a strong argument to be made that changes needed to happen, that there were problems within that police force that are well documented that go back decades and decades and decades.
00:22:42.000But what it does is it takes the focus off the actual problem and puts it on to one individual example, which when misreported or reported the way that it was, Brings people and makes it extremely radicalizes people to the point where like you said we we experienced a lot of writing from I'll give you another example Brett We know about the the subway guy Daniel Penny who put the chokehold on right on Jordan Neely three weeks earlier Tell me if you knew this three weeks earlier Tulsa, Oklahoma homeless black man walks up behind a white guy takes out a gun shoots him in the back of the head kills him Goes to another area of Tulsa, Oklahoma finds another white guy shoots him in the back of the head and kills him admits He did it because they were white
00:23:34.000We know the name of the people who were victimized.
00:23:35.000Most people don't even know about this story.
00:23:37.000It took place three weeks earlier than the internet on the subway.
00:23:40.000And I had heard about the story and watched it not get picked up.
00:23:43.000What I also found was interesting with Jordan Neely was that the fact that he had a history of specifically committing assaults in subways.
00:23:50.000So we acted like he was just, you know, obviously he's troubled.
00:23:53.000There is a lot of reasonable conversation to have around the foster care system, which he was involved in, mental health, things like that.
00:23:59.000But we should not deny the fact that he had established criminal history specifically in the place where this interaction with Penny happened.
00:24:09.000And Hannah-Claire, real quickly, what's interesting about this is what is the evidence that Daniel Penney would have just sat there had Jordan Neely been white?
00:24:27.000He was screaming that he wasn't afraid to go back to jail, that he was going to hurt people.
00:24:30.000Hannah-Claire, you made this point about examining the person's past.
00:24:33.000This is one of the things that drives me crazy.
00:24:35.000Every single time someone commits a senseless act, Of violence.
00:24:38.000The left bends over backwards to engage in every single facet of socioeconomic analysis to find an excuse for this person.
00:24:44.000This is because we didn't fund the public school they went to.
00:24:46.000This is because we're not building enough libraries.
00:24:47.000This is because of some form of structural racism.
00:24:49.000But when a man sees an unhinged person screaming on the subway, threatening your average person, and he does something which is totally understandable and even heroic by intervening to help people, The only way we can understand that is as racism.
00:25:01.000Now, socioeconomic factors and the circumstances totally melt away, and this is a war between good and evil, and those are the only factors to consider.
00:25:25.000It just doesn't make sense at all, and again, I want to have compassion, I want to understand, but I can't do that at the expense of logic or inaccurate information.
00:25:35.000And you pointed out something important, you're talking about compassion.
00:27:24.000When you mentioned earlier, you were mentioning the statistics about what they said was like, is racism a very big problem here in America?
00:27:32.000And then do they experience it in their daily lives?
00:27:34.000And you said when they say they don't experience it as much in their daily lives.
00:27:40.000The reason I think that is, inherently, is that we live in our phones now and you're carrying around a device that's telling you that the world is evil and that the people around you are evil.
00:27:49.000So they're not reacting to the world around them as they experience it.
00:27:53.000They're reacting to the world around them as they experience it through their phone and through data that they're reading, through stories that they're reading, through infographics, through things they're seeing on TikTok.
00:28:01.000They're not actually responding to the way they experience the world.
00:28:43.000The privilege that I had in life is that I had two parents who loved me tremendously, who stayed together, who cared a lot about me and my siblings, and that did give me a leg up.
00:29:13.000And the number one issue in America is the epidemic of fatherlessness.
00:29:18.00070% of black kids today enter the world without a father in the home, married to the mother, up from 25% back in 1965.
00:29:24.000Now 25% of white kids enter the world without a father in the home, married to the mother.
00:29:28.000And 65 is important because that's when a guy named Daniel Patrick Moynihan, who was then the Assistant Secretary of Labor, wrote a booklet for his boss called The Negro Family, A Case for National Action.
00:29:38.000At the time, 25%, as I mentioned, of black kids were born outside of wedlock, which he thought was horrific, and we needed to do something about it.
00:29:45.000And what we've done with the welfare state is incentivize women to marry the government and incentivize men to abandon their financial and moral responsibility.
00:29:52.000Well, and there's an additional element here, too.
00:29:53.000I totally agree with you on the welfare state, but the Brookings Institute released a very interesting paper where they basically said that while conservatives tend to look at the welfare state, another massively overlooked part of this was Roe v. Wade and the fact that the social expectations completely changed.
00:30:07.000Now, if a woman was pregnant, it wasn't on the man to stay with her.
00:30:09.000It was on her to choose whether or not she was going to get an abortion.
00:30:12.000And so that reshaped the way we thought about fatherlessness.
00:30:15.000If you got a woman pregnant and didn't take care of that child in any community, you were entirely detested.
00:30:35.000You're five times more likely to be poor and commit crime, nine times more likely to drop out of school, 20 times more likely to end up in jail.
00:31:00.000Also, though, think about colleges that incentivize.
00:31:06.000Like somebody pointed out, they're like, hard luck story beats 4.0 GPA every time at colleges.
00:31:12.000So you're incentivized even when you come from that background, because that's part of affirmative action programs and scholarships.
00:31:20.000Those stories often will be, I was raised by a single mother, and that was hard for me, and I overcame it, whatever else.
00:31:24.000But actually, studies show that children raised in father-only homes, where their mother has abandoned them, outperform single mother families.
00:31:33.000It is the single biggest difference in the entire world, and yet, what are we, you were talking about this with the Barbie movie, we are embracing anti-patriarchy, which I think is bananas!
00:31:43.000And Black Lives Matter on their website, attack the nuclear intact family.
00:31:56.000So whenever people talk about patriarchy, what they're really talking about, what patriarchy is, is the headship of the father in the household.
00:32:02.000The idea that this is denigrated, the idea that this is slammed, the idea that this is smeared, it's obvious why, right?
00:32:15.000And the co-founders of BLM are self-described trained Marxists.
00:32:18.000Which they took off the website midway through 2020 because people kept quoting that to them and sharing the old video of them where they talked about that at a meeting, right?
00:32:28.000Well, people have lost faith in God, and so they have to end up, uh, pledging, uh, allegiance and giving their souls to things that are, of course, significantly less important than one's faith and one's values.
00:32:39.000We have a poll here from Gallup, which actually shows belief in five supernatural entities edges down to new lows.
00:32:46.000Well, firstly, I don't even like that framing supernatural entities.
00:32:48.000Uh, they're talking about God, angels, heaven, They bleep out, censor out the word hell, and also the devil.
00:32:54.000Yes, so belief in God has edged downward.
00:32:57.000You see this trend over the past 20 years or so.
00:33:01.000It was interesting because as I was reading this article, one thing that really was depressing to me was the fact that they were listing the discrepancy between Catholics and Protestants and the number of Catholics and Protestants who believe in God.
00:33:13.000Why would it not be 100% for both groups?
00:33:16.000I think it parallels the decline in people that feel patriotic and feel proud of America.
00:33:18.000this a little bit there is a cultural element to Christianity especially
00:33:21.000people who will say oh I was always Protestant but I actually do nothing
00:33:24.000about it I don't read the Bible I go to church when I'm made to go to church
00:33:27.000they don't live it but they will claim the identity I think that can be
00:33:29.000attributed to a little bit of this I think it parallels the decline in people
00:33:33.000that feel patriotic and feel feel proud of America. If you look at the trend lines
00:33:37.000that they parallel. And fatherlessness too because I you know there's a reason he
00:33:42.000is described as God the father There are many reasons for it, but a person's relationship with their father is going to inform their attitudes towards God very heavily.
00:33:51.000In fact, statistically, we know one of the number one predictors of a child choosing to stay with their religion of their family is whether their dad practices that faith.
00:33:58.000If the mom practices that faith, They're likely to some degree to stay in, but not nearly as likely as if their dad practices the faith.
00:34:23.000And I think so much of our anti-responsibility culture parallels this, right?
00:34:28.000Like, I don't want to think about God because I don't want to think about the afterlife because I don't want to have to think about the fact that my decisions have consequences.
00:34:35.000In 30 years of being on radio, I've invited Jesse Jackson on dozens of times.
00:35:18.000I was just wondering if I could ask, you're listing this ban of people who don't want to speak to you, presumably because you're conservative or Republican.
00:35:26.000Can you tell us a little about how you got to this place politically?
00:36:08.000But from that point on, I voted Republican.
00:36:09.000You punished the American people if you helped Carter get elected.
00:36:12.000I was an independent for years, and then I decided to run against Barbara Boxer.
00:36:17.000I forget the year, but a bunch of people prevailed upon me to do that.
00:36:20.000And so I switched my affiliation from independent to Republican.
00:36:23.000And then I flew to DC to interview with a bunch of Republican senators to see if I can get the nomination, get the endorsement during the primary season.
00:36:31.000If they had endorsed me, I was going to run.
00:36:32.000They endorsed Carly Fiorina instead of me, so I decided not to run.
00:36:35.000And by the way, when I found out that they endorsed her, I said, why?
00:36:57.000Barbara Box's first two opponents, a guy named Bruce Hershenson and then a guy named Matt Fong at the same juncture had a 5% name recognition.
00:37:04.000And Carly Fiorina lost by 10 points and put very little, by the way, of her own money into the campaign.
00:37:08.000Long answer to your question, that's when I became a registered Republican, but I've always been a small ill libertarian.
00:37:14.000Well, I was going to say, if you were identified as a potential candidate to run for office as a Republican, they must have been aware that you were toying with conservative ideas.
00:37:22.000Was that something that you got a lot of pushback for?
00:37:26.000Did you stay an independent to resist the label of Republican?
00:37:30.000I think so, because I always felt both parties still spend, and I still do.
00:37:35.000One of the things I'm proposing is an amendment to the Constitution to fix spending to a certain percentage of the GDP, with exceptions for war and for natural disaster.
00:38:09.000if you are forced to do it by law, then and only then will there be a reform.
00:38:13.000For young people like you, they're not going to be there.
00:38:16.000And so it seems to me the president, and I will do that when I become president, will use a bully pulpit to explain this to people, particularly young voters, that this is in your best interest and maybe something can happen.
00:38:24.000And so I just want to ask quickly, where would you fix that GDP to revenue ratio?
00:38:30.000Ten percent, which is half of what it is at right now.
00:38:37.000And I say ten percent because in 1900, at all three levels, state, local, and federal, believe it or not, Government took 9% from the American people.
00:38:45.000Now all three levels of government take 32%.
00:38:47.000And in my opinion, if you put a cost to the mandates, government takes almost 50%.
00:38:51.000This is way, way, way bigger than what the founding fathers intended.
00:38:54.000They did not intend for there to be an income tax.
00:38:56.000They intended for the limited duties and obligations of the federal government to be paid for by duties and tariffs.
00:39:07.000They'd be appalled at the things that the federal government is doing.
00:39:09.000Well, it's interesting you point out that the federal government takes so much of our money, and they have, and you're right.
00:39:14.000There's an interesting observation, this is referred to as Hauser's Law, I'm not sure if you're familiar with this, but the basic idea is that regardless of where tax rates are, regardless of how much the government tries to take, since World War II, federal revenues have always hovered around 19.5%, which just goes to show that if you impose these insanely high taxes on people, they either become less productive, and so there's less to tax, or they start hiding their money so the government can't get to it.
00:39:37.000Rich people are not rich because they're stupid.
00:39:40.000They hide their money or they put them in other kinds of things so that they're taxed less.
00:39:43.000Yeah, and so, you know, there are certain left-wing commentators who will scoff at the idea of the Laffer Curve, and a more sophisticated left-wing approach is to say, okay, the Laffer Curve exists, but I don't think the parabola peaks until we're at 70% in terms of our tax rate.
00:39:58.000All right, well, that's Ridiculous, but at least you're acknowledging the reality that if you tax people at 0%, you'll have zero revenue.
00:40:05.000If you tax them at 100%, you'll also have zero revenue because no one's going to work.
00:40:08.000And there's some point along the middle where you maximize revenue for the government.
00:40:12.000But it's also very valuable for us to have this empirical data that shows us you don't seem to be able to get past 20% on the federal level in terms of what you're taking in.
00:40:21.000So why aren't they adjusting the way they tax us so that we can keep more of our money since their revenue pretty much won't shift from there?
00:41:57.000When you put in the state income tax, sales tax, property taxes, it is not uncommon for
00:42:02.000somebody with regular income as opposed to capital gains income being taxed at 60%.
00:42:07.000Even Bill Maher complained about it one time.
00:42:09.000When you've lost Bill Maher, then you're probably overtaxing people.
00:42:12.000And as someone who runs a business myself, when you have to cut that money out of your own bank account rather than having your employer withhold it from you, you start seeing taxes in a little bit of a different way.
00:42:22.000This is one of these reforms that I know there are probably implications to this that I'm not really exploring by so haphazardly suggesting we do this, but I'm often tempted to say we should make every American person pay their taxes that way.
00:42:35.000No one should have their taxes upheld by their employer.
00:42:37.000You should have to pay it in a lump sum so that you see what they're taking from you.
00:42:40.000I heard Milton Friedman say it was a huge mistake that we have automatic withholding like that.
00:42:44.000If people really saw what they were being charged for taxes, we would have changes.
00:42:51.000I think that's one of the problems some of our systems insulate people or keep people from the realities of what they do.
00:42:58.000This is one of my favorite tangents of all time, but I really think that we need to breed a culture of responsibility and long-term thinking.
00:43:04.000I think there are reasons why this tax withholding is It seems nice and somebody else deals with it, but ultimately you vote very differently when you're well informed.
00:43:14.000This is a theme we keep coming back to tonight.
00:43:16.000When you're talking to this woman at a dinner party and she says, I don't want to know, it's because that way she doesn't have to change her opinion.
00:43:22.000She doesn't have to evolve her worldview based on accurate information.
00:43:25.000And being well-informed brings us to the disaster that we call public education in the inner city.
00:43:31.000Thirteen public high schools, zero percent of the kids can do math at grade level.
00:43:37.000Another half a dozen where one percent can.
00:43:40.000That's half of all the public high schools in Baltimore, all located in the inner city.
00:43:44.000The kids are one percent or zero percent math proficient.
00:43:47.000Chicago, 53 schools, zero percent are math proficient.
00:43:52.000You can't – and 85% of blacks in the 8th grade, these are 13-year-old kids, can neither do math nor read at grade level, and half of them can't do basic reading, which means you cannot critically think.
00:44:03.000And you can be manipulated by emotion.
00:44:08.000My father was a public school teacher on the south side of Chicago, and for his entire career he taught, and then towards the end of his career he became a vice principal and then eventually principal.
00:44:16.000And one thing he would talk about was the fact that when they, as the high school, would get these students from their middle schools, they were so unbelievably far behind that the best they could hope to get them to do was still significantly below where they should be.
00:44:31.000It's a very sad state of affairs when you look at how broken that system is.
00:44:45.000There was a study done some years ago where government school teachers, which is a term I prefer rather than public school teachers, government school teachers were asked where you send your own school-age kids.
00:44:54.000Nationwide, 10% of us send our kids to private school.
00:45:28.000And that's one of the massive problems with this country today.
00:45:31.000We think about what is best for our own families, which is of course what we should be doing, but we don't extend that and say, well, maybe I shouldn't be doing things that would actively harm somebody else's family.
00:45:38.000Maybe I should actually care about the people around me.
00:45:44.000I think that there is an importance on emphasizing nuclear family in your decisions, but the nuclear family is a building block in a larger sphere, right?
00:45:53.000So you have your family who's a part of a community and you make choices for your family, but hopefully they positively benefit your community and your community then benefits your state and goes on and on and on.
00:46:05.000I think it's a mistake to assume that people aren't seeing the consequences of that.
00:46:11.000You know, I knew someone who when she had her first baby, you know, you have to immediately make a pediatrician appointment.
00:46:17.000There's all kinds of things you have to do.
00:46:18.000And so she asked the nurse in the room who she had a positive experience with, where do you take your kids?
00:46:23.000I want to go wherever you're taking your kids because you were kind to me.
00:46:27.000And I know you love your kids, you seem like a devoted mom, and I need help.
00:46:30.000And I think that's what the culture needs to be.
00:46:32.000Mutual assistance by knowing that someone who makes good decisions for their own family can recommend and give you advice and guidance when you start your own family.
00:46:39.000And Clare, there was an article in The Atlantic, which is a left-wing publication a few months ago.
00:46:44.000I talked about all the different decisions that a young family makes when they're having a baby.
00:46:48.000And they said the most important decision is whether or not you're able to move into a neighborhood where there are a lot of two-parent households.
00:46:53.000Even if you move into one and you're a single-parent household, you're going to benefit by the culture.
00:46:57.000And the reverse, of course, is true, too.
00:46:58.000You move into a neighborhood where there are a whole bunch of single-parent households, it's going to corrupt the culture.
00:47:05.000Even just think about, like, I need somebody to babysit my child.
00:47:08.000I don't have anyone to babysit my child.
00:47:10.000If you're in a neighborhood with a lot of single parent households, that parent is at
00:48:04.000What has happened in media over the past 50 years is progressively we have portrayed fathers in worse light.
00:48:11.000So whereas in Leave it to Beaver, you had a father who was strong, he was masculine, he was intelligent, he was solving problems for his family.
00:48:18.000You now have the standard Homer Simpson character portraying fathers in television shows.
00:48:22.000Don't get me wrong, I love the Simpsons.
00:48:25.000Yeah, I think it's a hilarious show, but this is a really negative cultural shift, and I believe the reason for this is because when you want to attack an institution, you attack the leader, and the father's the head of the household.
00:48:36.000I got a question for you guys, since you bring this up.
00:48:38.000I was talking to a buddy of mine that I work with when I was doing my Epoch Times TV show, and I said, That on commercials that the doofus is always a white guy.
00:48:46.000Oh always and and he said I never noticed that I said I said look at the commercials the Smart-knowing guy is always a black guy, but the doofus is always a white guy Look at the commercials that Snoop Dogg is doing with what's it?
00:50:31.000There was also a study done some years ago that looked at the number of people in late night television who were doctors and lawyers, and the numbers of blacks were overrepresented, and the number of criminals were underrepresented.
00:50:40.000Yeah, well, they always want to sort of go against the grain with the stereotypes.
00:50:44.000And, you know, you made this point about white people being overrepresented in these television shows when they portray crime.
00:50:49.000On the one hand, you can imagine them saying, yes, I want to defy the stereotype.
00:50:52.000Yes, I want to show fewer black criminals.
00:50:54.000But then it comes at the expense of white people.
00:50:55.000Now you're making it seem as if white people are more criminal than the statistics show that they are.
00:51:00.000And in terms of this question of Commercials showing white men as idiots and then black men or black women as brilliant and knowing everything.
00:51:12.000It's something that you just get to a point where you don't even think about it because it's so common.
00:51:16.000What bothers me even more than that are the commercials, and that does bother me a lot, but what bothers me even more are the commercials where the father's an idiot and the mother's a genius.
00:51:24.000Because now you're actually subverting the family unit itself.
00:51:29.000You are denigrating the relationship between men and women.
00:51:32.000I think when you create racial struggles, that's a serious problem.
00:51:34.000I hate when people in power do that, but there is no greater modern attack than the attack on the family.
00:51:40.000I think the family structure is really integral to everything that we do.
00:51:44.000And in some ways, some things we're talking about remind me of this, and I wish I could remember who put it out right now, but that there is a slight trend towards becoming more religious among Gen Z.
00:51:57.000It's not that they are dominantly religious, but they are just starting to go back to church.
00:52:01.000They are starting to embrace religion away.
00:52:03.000And again, especially since we led off with this idea that fewer people believe in God, even people who claim to be Protestants or Catholics, it is interesting that as we watch the family structure for everybody get destroyed, there is a return to search for guidance, for fundamental meaning, for core values.
00:52:21.000I think that's one of the things that I'm Actually hopeful about in this country.
00:52:25.000I think there is a desire to find a common value and reestablish who we are even when we are different what we cherish and what we as neighbors know we can expect from our neighbors.
00:52:36.000Well, so speaking of some of the issues that we see with respect to the attack on the family this idea that men are idiots the idea that we're a horribly sexist country.
00:52:43.000I want to highlight a story from a part of the world where women actually are genuinely treated like garbage in the left almost never seems to do anything to try to stand up for them.
00:52:52.000Beauty salon ban in Afghanistan is a blow to women's financial freedom.
00:52:56.000So this is basically a story about how in Afghanistan, other than the Taliban are in charge, they have officially banned beauty salons for women.
00:53:04.000They're shutting down businesses that these women have spent their lives building.
00:53:08.000We have a story of a 34-year-old mother.
00:53:11.000of two who's not going to have her business anymore. It really is a sad story. I think as
00:53:17.000you know an evil pro-man, pro-patriarchy person who thinks that anything that's bad for women is
00:53:22.000bad for men and anything that's bad for men is bad for women, I gotta say you know I hold very
00:53:27.000strongly to traditional values. I don't think there's anything against traditional values or
00:53:32.000traditional sensibilities of wanting women to be able to go to beauty salons.
00:53:35.000Something like this is just so horrible and senseless.
00:53:37.000But of course, the only time the left really wants to talk about the condition of women living under theocratic Islamic regimes is when they want to compare themselves to someone because politics in America didn't go their way.
00:53:57.000And it's because there's no consistency in their logic, right?
00:53:59.000I mean, so we're just pointing out in this article that without these beauty salons, which are women only anyways, because of the culture and the theocratic role in Afghanistan, there are no places where women can publicly assemble without a male chaperone.
00:54:12.000Like, they can be in their homes and that's it.
00:54:15.000And women in America believe they are oppressed.
00:54:18.000I mean, I just find it deeply ironic and in some ways insensitive, right?
00:54:22.000The next time they're saying, you know, we're with her, I want to ask you, who is her?
00:54:41.000You can't comment on what's going on there because you inherently can't understand their
00:54:45.000culture and a lot of the people that believe that haven't traveled the world, they haven't
00:54:49.000been outside the U.S., they have no frame of reference outside of that.
00:54:52.000So you're just, instead of having the uncomfortable conversation that you might want to criticize something about somebody who might not look like you or might not be from the same place as you, the idea is to just push the can down the road and ignore it, pretend like it's not happening.
00:55:06.000And Hannah-Claire, this whole business about women in America being oppressed is laughable.
00:55:09.000Every year that Obama was in office, he would come out and talk about how women make X number of cents on the dollar compared to men.
00:55:19.000If that were true, you would fire all your men, hire women, and pocket the difference.
00:55:23.000There are more women now in college than men.
00:55:25.000The numbers of women entering medical school and law school equal the number of men who Graduation stats to graduation stats women live longer.
00:55:33.000I mean it 90% of the people behind bars are men.
00:55:35.000I mean, yeah, we're how where are they oppressed?
00:55:38.000This is the only instance in history that I'm familiar with of an oppressed class being more likely to win custody battles being more likely to receive more lenient sentencing More likely to vote.
00:55:49.000More likely to receive a higher education, more likely to be considered for elite programs, such as being admitted into a STEM field based on their application.
00:55:58.000It's really, man, a difficult kind of oppression.
00:56:10.000Even so, right, what we have to consider is because of the sexual revolution and modern feminism, and basically the way I've described feminism in the past is it's essentially, especially in the West, a PR campaign for the sexual revolution to try to get women to co-sign their own debasement and debasing.
00:56:30.000What we've done is we've reduced women to objects in a different way, where now all you exist to do is be sexually appealing to men, and once you've done that, and a human person is just a thing, and their value is merely a product of what they can give you, and a woman is just a sexual object, well, once a man, through surgical intervention, can emulate the secondary sex characteristics of womanhood that you find appealing, now he can be a woman too.
00:57:08.000We are the party wearing the white hat in social justice for women and for minorities, and these guys over here, these dastardly Republicans, they wear the black hat.
00:57:16.000The meme, it says like, it says Republicans are racist.
00:57:20.000Republicans, if they got to pick the Supreme Court, and it's just all Clarence Thomas, it's just a bunch of Clarence Thomases.
00:57:26.000It's also like for this topic, I think it's a lot to do with when you take the, when you divide the men and women that way, and you make them, when you make the woman an object, you are now inherently stopping the family from forming, right?
00:57:53.000I want to believe that we are meant to be complementary and to build each other up through our unique strengths.
00:57:59.000I don't think that that is the culture that Progressive left.
00:58:04.000Tells us and I think that's inherently destructive, right?
00:58:07.000So not only are we destroying the family by separating kids from the parents But we are separating men from women saying you're you guys are actually enemies, right?
00:58:13.000Especially if you're a man you are the problem and you should help you eat yourself Thus, Benny Thompson, who is the chair of the so-called January 6th Insurrection Committee, can publicly refer to Clarence Thomas as an Uncle Tom.
00:58:27.000You know, it's so disgusting, this rhetoric that you hear.
00:58:29.000When people try to pile on somebody because they have the wrong opinion, they belong to some kind of minority group, as happens to you and happens to basically anyone else who speaks out against the left from the vantage point of someone in a group that they quote-unquote represent, they end up being tarred and feathered.
00:58:43.000And what's so particularly heinous about it is You know, if somebody tells you, as a member of the out group, that they don't like you, so like if a white person says something bad to a black person, or a black person says something bad to a white person, that's bad, but at the very least, there hasn't been this narrative created that, like, your own in-group is rejecting you, your own family, your own friends, people in your community are rejecting you.
00:59:06.000To tell someone, like, you are actually, you actually don't fit in with the category that you're a part of, is a far worse way of slurring to someone.
00:59:12.000You've been banished from the village.
00:59:13.000We were talking about Thomas Sowell earlier.
00:59:16.000There's a magazine called Ebony Magazine.
00:59:35.000Thomas Sowell has written about 40 books.
00:59:37.000David Mamet, the playwright, referred to Thomas Sowell as America's greatest contemporary philosopher.
00:59:42.000Walter Williams is the first, to my knowledge, only chair of an economics department of a non-historically black college, written a number of books.
00:59:49.000Both Thomas Sowell and he have had hundreds of outlets in their syndicated column, and most black people don't know who the hell they are because they've been banished from the village.
00:59:55.000Can I ask, how did your Republican father respond to this?
01:00:32.000Even if you want somebody else to talk about the kinds of things we're talking about, the epidemic of fatherlessness, the lie that America is systemically racist, the need for an amendment to Fixed spending to a certain percentage of the GDP, school choice.
01:00:42.000I even have a proposed legislation to get rid of these soft-on-crime George Soros-backed DAs.
01:01:10.000I sent that article to somebody, because there's a lot of people, I still have a lot of friends that are very liberal.
01:01:15.000I still consider myself fairly liberal on a lot of issues, but I have a lot of friends who just don't know that a lot of this stuff is going.
01:01:20.000And it took an article about the black face of white supremacy to actually wake somebody up to the absolute ridiculousness of the narrative.
01:01:55.000So when we're talking about the power, I talk a lot about the power of the media and the most powerful thing they can do is not talk about something.
01:03:51.000He doesn't have trouble finding his thoughts.
01:03:53.000He just puts everything out there in a perfectly, like, concise and reasonable way.
01:03:56.000And everything he's written that I've read has been fantastic, but of course he's ignored because he's coming to conclusions which are very clearly true on a number of things.
01:04:04.000I don't agree with him on everything, but even when I disagree with him, he makes a remarkable case.
01:04:11.000Gloria Allred used to be on my same radio station, and Gloria and I are friends, even though I disagree with everything she says and vice versa.
01:04:27.000So Gloria's talking to her and then says, Maxine, my friend Larry Elder, my colleague here at KBC radios, wants to know why you won't come on his radio show.
01:05:05.000Here's what I realized, watching media, watching so many journalists today, what the vast majority of people who call themselves journalists do is they just read articles and give you your opinion on them.
01:05:14.000Which I do almost every day, when I'm podcasting.
01:05:54.000And then put it in his Twitter bio and then later told me he did an interview in which the person then was like reading his Twitter bio and being like... I think, no, I think she was in on the joke.
01:06:51.000How does somebody who's a partisan for Bill Clinton, wanted big health care, big taxes, all the stuff that the left wants, now all of a sudden he's evolved to be a chief news anchor of ABC News?
01:07:05.000So there was a really great quote, you know, Chomsky's not my favorite in the world, but he had this really great moment on television decades ago.
01:07:13.000Where he was talking to a reporter, they were interviewing him about his book, and they said to him, he was basically explaining that media outlets will only forward certain people who have a specific set of values that line up with the networks, and the journalist becomes a little bit indignant, and they said, are you accusing me of not being sincere in my values?
01:07:32.000And Chomsky says, no, I believe you are sincere.
01:07:35.000What I'm telling you is, you wouldn't have this job if you weren't.
01:07:39.000You wouldn't have this job if you didn't have those values, right?
01:07:41.000If you toe the right line, you're way more likely to rise to the top.
01:08:19.000This is what conservatives have to be more open doing.
01:08:22.000So you didn't agree with Imagine There's No Property?
01:08:25.000Believe it or not, when a rich guy said Imagine There's No Property... It bothers me so much that that song is replacing Auld Lang Syne as the New Year's Eve anthem.
01:09:20.000But if you look deeper into the meaning, you understand that these motives, these objectives, especially in Hollywood, in music and entertainment, go long past what we're experiencing now.
01:09:46.000Well, we've got another story here queued up.
01:09:49.000The DOJ is going to sue Texas over Governor Abbott's floating wall and razor wire along the Rio Grande.
01:09:57.000The Justice Department notified Texas that it plans to file a lawsuit over the latest tactic in Operation Lone Star, Governor Greg Abbott's controversial border security initiative, a legal challenge welcomed by Abbott.
01:10:09.000TPR confirmed on Friday that the Justice Department sent a letter to Abbott's office outlining that Abbott's floating border barrier in the Rio Grande violates federal law, raises humanitarian concerns, and is a threat to public safety and the environment.
01:11:15.000This is one of my favorite facts of American politics that has become far more clear over the past few years, but when you place left-wing people in the circumstances that conservatives have been in for decades, they magically have this epiphany and begin to develop conservative perspectives.
01:11:34.000Part of what was so strategically brilliant about these governors and border states shipping these migrants off to The problem with the blue states is they forced them to make our arguments.
01:12:00.000You know, there was a study done by the Civil Rights Commission some years ago, and the group most hurt by illegal aliens are black and brown people living in the inner city, those with high school or less education, because virtually all of the illegal aliens have very little education.
01:12:13.000There are about a million fewer blacks who are working because of the presence of illegal alien labor, and the presence of illegal alien labor puts downward pressure to the tune of almost $2,000 per year on the salaries of people living in the inner city.
01:12:24.000So once again, the people who are most likely to vote Democrat, the ones on the left, claim that they care about black and brown people are the ones most hurt.
01:12:33.000It's crazy to me that the DOJ is upset because Greg Abbott says, hey, we're going to put up a barrier here because you're not supposed to enter illegally.
01:12:41.000And by the way, swimming across the Rio Grande is incredibly dangerous, so we should not be incentivizing it as a way for people to enter this country illegally anyways.
01:12:51.000It's a humanitarian crisis that That Greg Abbott is standing in the way of floods of illegal migrations, which apparently Democratic parties benefit from.
01:13:00.000And I think you're totally right to bring up the fact that they continuously fail to advertise the cost and who is truly impacted by this.
01:13:08.000I have said over and over again that not only are illegal immigrants themselves, especially people who are trafficked across the border, Abuse and hurt in the process, but also every community every person affected by this pays a price that when we say But it's just mean you can't put a wall there.
01:13:23.000You can't put floating buoys in the water Democrats used to agree with you.
01:13:31.000I did some years ago of Bill Clinton Barack Obama Dianne Feinstein, Chuck Schumer, all talking about the damage done by unfettered illegal immigration.
01:13:43.000Harry Reid even used the word illegal alien.
01:13:48.000They all used to say this, and then they did a 180 when they realized that the votes were among Hispanics, and they figured that at some point, by letting a bunch of illegal aliens in, there'd be enough pressure to put on to make them residents and then citizens, and then they would vote Democrat.
01:14:03.000If legal aliens turn residents, turn voters, would vote Republican, we would not be having this conversation.
01:14:08.000Well, and not only that, but when they go to places that tend to vote blue, they artificially inflate representation there.
01:14:14.000The pollsters say there are more people there, so that they have to, you know, increase their seats.
01:14:18.000But I also want to mention this horrible, horrible term you used, illegal alien.
01:14:22.000Don't you know that the preferred term is friend we haven't made yet?
01:14:26.000What you said is true because they point that out about Cuban immigrants and people who come over from Cuba that who they know have a tendency not to vote in the same way because they came from a socialist country and so they don't play to that demographic the same way they do those at the Texas border.
01:14:42.000Wasn't there, I might be misremembering, but there was this wet foot, dry foot policy that actually made it more difficult for people who entered the nation on rafts, basically.
01:14:54.000You know, people who came from Cuba to enter.
01:14:59.000And what I find, like, Just totally disturbing as, I mean, first off, we have to acknowledge that Greg Abbott responds with, Texas has the sovereignty to enforce border security.
01:15:10.000And I have to, you know, you can criticize Greg Abbott for a lot of things, but I really like that he has made this a priority for his administration.
01:15:18.000I like that he is willing to make bold choices.
01:15:22.000Again, with the busing, everyone can accuse him of theatrics.
01:15:26.000I think everyone should be aware of what's going on.
01:15:28.000And, you know, one of the strangest things that's happened to me since I began working in conservative media is I think Instagram figured it out, even though my Instagram is very, you know, just personal and not political at all.
01:15:39.000It started sending me videos that some of the border chiefs take and post on their social media platforms and the just obvious traffic that goes through that area.
01:15:50.000The obvious destruction that comes through is something that I wish more people talked about.
01:16:00.000But it is interesting to me that you won't see that reality portrayed.
01:16:07.000I mean, the obvious case of this is with the group of Haitian migrants who are under the bridge and trying to cross.
01:16:14.000And Alexander Mayorkas reprimanded The border patrol officers who were on horseback saying they whipped them, they did this, they did that.
01:16:24.000And Mayorkas is still in office letting our border policy continue and also not standing by the agents who are doing their best given the limited resources that they have, considering the federal government consistently undermines states that are trying to be proactive like Texas.
01:16:38.000And the difference between Democrats, that I assembled in that montage, who were complaining about illegal immigration 20 years ago, and now, the average illegal immigrant coming from the southern border was a Mexican on foot coming across the border.
01:16:50.000Now, 100% of them pretty much are paying cartels.
01:16:53.000Yeah, well, and not only that, the majority of people who are being trafficked across the border are not Mexican.
01:17:00.000I was having a conversation with Jenny Terror about this, who's a reporter and journalist, an actual one, who's gone down to the border several times.
01:17:06.000What she told me is that, this is her, she said she has not spoken to a single Mexican the entire time she's been down there.
01:17:13.000Now I understand that that's anecdotal, that's the experience of one journalist, but statistically the majority of them are not from Mexico.
01:17:18.000No, I was going to point out our own show, I'm going to cite ourselves, citing the Los Angeles Times, when the fourth bus of migrants arrived in LA this week from Texas, the majority were from Venezuela.
01:17:29.000This is not a fair to anyone. Which is weird because socialism is great.
01:17:32.000I thought we love socialism. No one can explain it. Well they're here to evangelize about
01:17:36.000socialism. Did they listen to the Imagine song over there? They heard it. Yeah. No I mean I just
01:17:41.000think that immigration is one of these issues that I'm so glad that more people are talking about because
01:17:47.000again it's the the fact that the DOJ looks at Texas putting up a floating buoy wall the kind
01:17:52.000that you would see like if you were swimming at a lake and they're saying don't go too far.
01:17:57.000They're saying that they are trying to deter people from illegally entering the country, which, by the way, they are risking their lives.
01:18:02.000They're being put into horrible situations.
01:18:04.000The humanitarian crisis is Texas trying to stop this, and not the idea that That anyone is willing to take children and do this, take this journey, is crazy to me.
01:18:14.000When Biden got elected, ABC's Martha Raddatz interviewed this guy who had just come across the border.
01:18:20.000And she said to him, would you have tried this if President Trump had gotten reelected?
01:18:40.000One of the statistics that Republicans quote a lot, especially when Andy Briggs Biggs entered the motion to impeach Mayorkas a little bit earlier this year.
01:18:50.000One of the statistics that comes up is the number of people who are on the FBI's most wanted list who are apprehended at the border.
01:18:56.000And they're saying there are more people apprehended at the border on the FBI most wanted list under Biden.
01:19:01.000And that sounds a little weird, like they're doing a better job of catching them.
01:19:03.000No, it's because under Trump, they didn't come near the border.
01:19:17.000They just redefined what it meant to stop somebody at the border under the Obama administration.
01:19:21.000And they had, what was it, Title 42, where there were all sorts of issues related to COVID that we ended up terminating because the Biden administration took away and then had to put it back.
01:19:49.000I would apprehend and put in confinement the people who are crossing the border illegally because that's the only way you can deport them.
01:19:56.000Once you put them in the interior, they're going to stay forever.
01:20:00.000But yeah, we need temporary workers, if they're truly temporary, and there are some high-skilled workers that we need, but we should determine the number, the amount, and how long they stay.
01:20:10.000So can I ask you something, just related not necessarily to illegal immigration, but your own policies?
01:20:16.000What would be your administration's priority?
01:20:18.000What's the first thing that you would do if you were elected?
01:20:21.000First thing I would do is to stop this war on oil and gas, allow drilling on federal properties, and I would finish the wall and again reverse the anti-Trump policies that Biden has implemented.
01:20:34.000Those are the first couple things I would do.
01:20:36.000Yeah, you don't want to keep the shipping containers that they have in Arizona.
01:20:40.000Actually, they made Doug Ducey take them down, right?
01:20:42.000These gaps in the walls that he creatively built.
01:20:45.000How did the catch-and-release policies affect the migrants that were brought in and then bused to other states, bused to blue states?
01:21:47.000I think these are all interesting reforms.
01:21:49.000I wonder if you would want to expand a little more on potentially capping legal immigration.
01:21:53.000You were mentioning that skilled workers, but maybe... Right.
01:21:56.000I don't have a number in mind, but the point is there are workers who have skills that we don't have.
01:22:01.000Science, technology, engineering, math kinds of people.
01:22:04.000And I have no problem with having a certain number of H-1B visas provided they're temporary.
01:22:10.000In certain fields, agriculture, where there's work that people will do at prices that we're unwilling to pay, and it's seasonal, we should be able to do that and make sure that people go back.
01:22:22.000I find H1B visas such an interesting area because, you know, I've heard, I've talked to a lot of young Democrats, actually, who talk about brain drain in the States.
01:22:31.000And I feel like we have a responsibility to acknowledge that when we incentivize, you know, another country's best and brightest away and don't encourage them to return, we are actually doing that country a disservice.
01:22:41.000Well, our job is to do America a service, not to worry about other countries.
01:22:48.000But we would not need to import these kinds of people if we were doing a better job K-12.
01:22:52.000Yeah, I mean, and that's absolutely correct.
01:22:55.000People will talk often about the fact that we're effectively importing In underclass, we're bringing people in who have no skills to have them do jobs that Americans aren't unwilling to do but would do if they paid a more decent wage.
01:23:07.000And what people don't want to acknowledge is that it's also the case that when you're importing people with H-1Bs, I think sometimes that can be good, but what we should want is for our country to produce citizens who are capable of doing those jobs.
01:23:23.000And we shouldn't use H-1B visas as a means to get rid of people who are doing the jobs just to pay the workers coming in less money.
01:23:39.000I think I can probably make some guesses.
01:23:41.000I know you're more conservative, but when it comes to like the LGBTQ lobby or your stance on abortion or a federal abortion ban, where would you put yourself?
01:23:49.000Well, on abortion, I am pro-life, but it's an issue that should be determined by the states the way it was until 1973 when the Supreme Court took up Roe v. Wade.
01:23:59.000Every state will determine its own path.
01:24:03.000We don't put the other side on the spot and ask them, At what point do you believe a pregnancy has gone so far that to terminate it would become a murder?
01:24:10.000I tried to get Gavin Newsom to answer that question.
01:24:34.000The left has never put the task on giving us a definition at what point do they feel pregnancy has gone so far.
01:24:40.000I also think though, Seamus, that the pro-life people have not only talked the talk, they've walked the walk.
01:24:47.000There are thousands of pregnancy centers all over the country with resources for education, And for job training, and there are probably 35 couples for every one baby willing to adopt.
01:25:01.000Women have other choices, and we should make it clear to them that they do have another choice other than to have an abortion.
01:25:06.000You're absolutely correct that there are more couples on the waiting list to adopt than there are unplanned pregnancies in the US each year.
01:25:11.000When you look at the statistics on women who have abortion, they often say it's because they didn't think there was any other option or anyone willing to help them.
01:25:17.000Again, that's not an excuse, but it just goes to show That if we have these resources for them, if we let them know that life was an option, then they'd be willing to choose it.
01:25:24.000I will disagree with you on one thing.
01:25:25.000I do believe in a federal abortion ban.
01:25:27.000I think we have to protect life in all cases, in all states.
01:25:31.000To me, it's hypocritical for me to for years say that Roe v. Wade never should have been taken up, that the Supreme Court never should have found invalid every single abortion law of all the other states to make this a federal issue, and then to say, on the other hand, Roe v. Wade is overturned, now let's have a federal bill.
01:25:46.000Ronald Reagan was at least Principally consistent when he said that he was going to push for an amendment to ban abortion Yeah, that would be something that would would be consistent legally.
01:25:55.000He didn't do it, but he said he would do that Yeah, that's something I would like.
01:25:59.000So, my position is not that Roe v. Wade was necessarily bad because it overturned every state's laws.
01:26:03.000I do think that is a negative about it, but primarily because it allowed for unborn children to be killed in the United States.
01:26:22.000And I would still see that as an evil.
01:26:24.000I love that you brought up the pregnancy centers, if I can just interject here.
01:26:27.000A couple of weeks ago I read an article about how Yelp in particular, this is in the wake of Roe, was specifically flagging pregnancy centers.
01:26:35.000So centers that offer, like you're mentioning, health care services, they don't offer abortion, they might talk to you about adoption as an option, they might talk to you about job training, other kinds of support.
01:26:44.000Yelp was in particular trying to warn people that this is not what you're looking for.
01:26:50.000and they were trying to make sure that they could distinguish between them.
01:27:20.000And I think that's honorable and I think that's good.
01:27:22.000I think we also can agree that there are some people who just, through the circumstances of their lives, the positions they're in, are not capable of raising their children and that those children deserve to be with loving, stable parents who can give them as much as possible.
01:27:33.000So it's a really tricky conversation because I would never This is a conversation that I had with a lot of libertarians as I was combing through my philosophy because, you know, I don't want the state to tell me how to parent.
01:27:44.000On the other hand, I think we can all look at some circumstances and say, you should not have your children.
01:27:48.000I mean, there are enough terrible cases of fatal abuse of children that I don't need to give you an example, right?
01:28:49.000And I said, if you don't mind my asking, may I ask you why?
01:28:53.000And she said, he couldn't get me pregnant.
01:28:55.000He's sitting there, he goes, put it all on him!
01:28:59.000And I said, did you guys consider adoption?
01:29:01.000And they said, we considered it, we decided against it, but looking back at it, we wish we had.
01:29:06.000Yeah, it's such a sad thing, too, because now you have so many people doing in vitro, which requires for you to create new life that ends up being destroyed in the process, when there are so many children who need a home.
01:29:15.000I mean, there's so many children out there who could have a family, who could have a loving childhood if they were adopted, and you can make the argument that there are some people who might adopt that child and their life might be less than ideal.
01:29:59.000And I don't want to be reclassified as an egg donor.
01:30:01.000And so those frozen embryos are still on ice and they exist.
01:30:06.000They are, you know, it's a really I summarized in the article.
01:30:10.000You should all check it out on TimCast.com because it's great.
01:30:13.000No, but I mean part of it is the argument around when does life begin and also if you made an agreement.
01:30:19.000So one of the things I found interesting, maybe you can comment on this, is they had to sign a contract saying they would They were always going to use a surrogate and they were going to mutually consent to have these children born into the world.
01:30:33.000But there wasn't a contingency as apparently is required by California state law.
01:31:04.000You're seeing it with celebrities now.
01:31:06.000It's not even because of an inability to get pregnant.
01:31:09.000It's that they don't want to damage their body and they want to, the women don't want the stretch marks.
01:31:13.000They don't want to go through the process of birth.
01:31:15.000And then there's stories of celebrities who are then saying after the fact, Shockingly, I had a hard time connecting with my child after they were born because they didn't actually go through the process of giving birth to the baby.
01:31:28.000I mean, there are people who adopt children, and I know people who've adopted children, and what I will say is I can't tell you the statistics on how often they bond, but I would argue it probably happens often.
01:31:40.000I would imagine they bond pretty well because when you adopt a child, that's a choice that is made selflessly.
01:31:46.000Whereas there is, and look, I know there are a lot of people I've spoken to and known who have done in vitro and done surrogacies, and I want everyone who hears me saying this, who's done that, to understand, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with your child.
01:32:10.000I don't hate your child, but I really think it's wrong.
01:32:13.000And I think ultimately it is a selfish decision that results in human life being destroyed.
01:32:18.000And also it, in some sense, makes it less, it makes it more difficult for children who you could have adopted, who could have had a home, who could have had a loving family to end up seeing that home because one was made in a Petri dish instead.
01:32:31.000Yeah, well and I'll say from the research I've done with adoption and the interviews I've listened to with people who adopt, part of it is they know they're adopting.
01:32:38.000They know this child comes from different circumstances.
01:32:40.000Maybe the child is, you know, adopted to them right from the hospital.
01:32:44.000Maybe this child has, you know, been in the world for a little while and they intentionally cultivate relationships and they, you know, some people talk about like cocooning.
01:32:53.000They'll specifically spend a lot of time as a nuclear family letting this child adjust to it before they venture out into the world.
01:33:00.000And, you know, I can't say for sure but maybe with surrogacy some people expect because it is your tissue that you'll have that experience.
01:33:06.000And I think pregnancy is a very unique experience and I think also that's one of the beautiful things about adoption that people intentionally go into knowing that they are going to maybe have to put a little more work in but the bonding and love can be just as real.
01:33:44.000I don't even know what it was, but the fact that there's a going rate at all... I've seen it, no, I've seen some of the numbers, it's like, and it's, look, there is no amount of money, there's no amount of money that makes that worth it, but I've seen some statistics that say like $30,000 for a breakfast.
01:33:57.000Plus other things, right, so they'll cover your health care, they'll give you extra money for food.
01:34:01.000If you're Kim Kardashian's, you're probably also paying for her silence, that sounds a little odd, but like you're paying her not to go to the media and be like, I'm Kim Kardashian's surrogate.
01:34:09.000Well, since men can get pregnant, I guess it's a job that men can do too.
01:34:13.000It's so, I mean, the whole situation's so sad.
01:34:29.000Imagine the trauma that a person goes through giving birth for a child just to give it away for money, right?
01:34:36.000We're not talking about, I have this child and You know, I loved them, I didn't want to abort them, I did the right thing by them, but I couldn't take care of them, so I gave them to a family who could.
01:34:45.000We're talking, I got pregnant to make this money, and now, what do you think is going to happen?
01:34:49.000You think a woman who's pregnant and forming that bond with that child is going to go, well, they're paying me, so now I'm not going to form this spiritual and physical and neurochemical bond with the child.
01:34:58.000There have been many instances in which the surrogate mother has changed her mind.
01:35:01.000And the courts have decided with the surrogate mother.
01:35:23.000So we have from I'm Not Your Buddy Guy says, it does bother me that many leaders in the West, especially in the U.S., are acting as if they know they can never be removed from power again.
01:36:00.000This is kind of the reason why I don't like term limits because Politicians who are going to lie to you and steal from you are a dime a dozen.
01:36:10.000We're going to get plenty of those, and term limits aren't really going to get rid of those people.
01:36:13.000But the once-in-a-generation type leaders who actually come around and want to do the right thing, they then only get a few years to lead, when historically, you know, they could be elected and re-elected and re-elected and re-elected because they did such a good job.
01:36:25.000I should have the choice to choose somebody over and over and over again if I want to.
01:36:28.000That said, I think there is something to be said, especially when looking at our current political landscape about there being, you know, cognitive tests and much harsher adherence to standards that would ensure that those in power... You're not referring to Joseph Robinette Biden?
01:36:43.000No, we're referring to Dianne Feinstein.
01:36:46.000The thing is, there's like a few people over the past couple years I could have been referring to, but now, yes, Joe Biden.
01:36:50.000This is something I remember hearing my entire childhood, you know, when I was learning about politics in school, when I was learning about the history of the 80s.
01:36:57.000They would mock the Republicans for having a president, Ronald Reagan, who they claim ended up becoming demented or senile towards the end of his presidency.
01:38:47.000People are now speculating that Joe Biden won't be able to make it, won't be able to fog up a mirror, and Kamala Harris is even less popular.
01:38:55.000The nominee, if Joe Biden cannot fog up a mirror, will be Kamala Harris.
01:39:00.000When Bernie Sanders won the Nevada caucuses in 2020, and for a moment, for a brief shining moment, he became the party's front runner, a Democrat socialist, they panicked.
01:39:10.000James Clyburn, on the eve of the South Carolina primary, endorsed Joe Biden with a promise that his first Supreme Court nominee would be a black female.
01:39:19.000Joe Biden hired a black female to be his running mate.
01:39:22.000Gavin Newsom, when it appeared that Dianne Feinstein might not serve out her last term, promised to appoint a black female.
01:39:29.000To kick aside the first black female who's on base to become the first black female president by a white person like Mayor Pete or Gavin Newsom, Black voters will be livid.
01:39:51.000And they believe that Joe Biden's given her thankless tasks like finding the root causes of illegal immigration.
01:39:56.000So, if you do that and shove her aside for somebody else who's white, black voters won't vote Republican, they just won't vote, thereby guaranteeing that whoever the nominee is on the Republican side, he or she will win.
01:40:25.000I'm sure she's not as popular among black men as she is among black females.
01:40:29.000By the way, black men, 20% of them voted for Republicans in 2020.
01:40:33.000Well that's the thing, the share of black men voting Republican has increased since Trump has come on the scene.
01:40:39.000Trump got 8% of the black vote in 2016, he got 12% in 2020, 50% increase, but he got 20% of the black male vote.
01:40:45.000But I thought Joe Biden said, if you don't Joe Biden, you're not black.
01:40:48.000Well, Joe Biden was raised in the black church.
01:40:50.000And by the way, he said that on Charlamagne Than God show.
01:40:52.000And Charlamagne Than God wasn't even insulted.
01:40:55.000If you look at the tape, Biden said, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hey, if you don't know if you want to vote for me or vote for Trump, you ain't really black.
01:41:18.000He's lied for decades about his civil rights record and tells you, Charlemagne the God, a black man, who's down with the brothers, you ain't really black if you don't want to vote for me.
01:41:30.000I am the black face of white supremacy.
01:41:32.000Not only has Biden lied about his civil rights record, but he openly, publicly stated very early on in his career that he wasn't marching in Selma.
01:41:43.000He made all sorts of statements early on, distancing himself from the civil rights movement.
01:41:47.000And now today he says, the whole reason I got into politics was the civil rights movement.
01:41:55.000He said the reason he ran was because that guy, Donald Trump, you know, he said there were good guys and bad guys on the side of being fascist.
01:42:04.000And of course Donald Trump never said anything like that.
01:42:12.000Even Jake Tapper, two years after the incident, said, you know, I went back and looked at the tape and Donald Trump was talking about the debate on whether or not there should be a Confederate monument in the public square.
01:42:21.000And then two days after Jake Tapper said it, Biden is on CNN and says it again.
01:42:44.000Interesting, we're talking about Donald Trump a moment ago.
01:42:48.000How many times have the Democrats referred to him as a tyrant or a dictator or a fascist?
01:42:53.000I ask you gentlemen and lady, what is the purpose of the Second Amendment?
01:42:58.000So, if you believe Donald Trump is a tyrant, why in the world would you want further gun control restrictions when, after all, the amendment is designed to prevent somebody like Donald Trump, the tyrant, from taking power?
01:43:09.000You ought to be hoping that more law-abiding people have more guns.
01:43:12.000It seems like the tyrant would be the one saying, you know, give me your guns.
01:43:15.000Which means either they're lying and being a demagogue when they refer to him as a tyrant, or they have no clue what the Second Amendment's really for.
01:43:19.000They don't know what the Second Amendment's for.
01:43:22.000They don't know what the Second Amendment's for.
01:43:24.000They don't actually believe that that's... They don't understand anything about well-regulated militia, and it's open to their interpretation, which is just not the accurate interpretation of that.
01:43:51.000I mean, first off- What's he referring to?
01:43:53.000Well, this morning I hosted our Culture Wars show, which is a debate program, and I had Matt Brainerd on, and he wanted to talk to Mike Lindell about election security.
01:44:01.000And, you know, really it was about- it was supposed to be about early voter turnout.
01:44:06.000There was a lot of heated back and forth.
01:44:08.000And I will say, it's not that I thought Mike Lindell was sketchy, it's just that I think there was a lot of- I feel like I shouldn't review the debate.
01:44:16.000I feel like there was a lot of tension in the room.
01:44:18.000You know, they're both people who feel really strongly and passionately about what they do.
01:44:21.000And occasionally it felt like they were going back and forth about, well, you're questioning me.
01:44:27.000But I am ultimately so grateful to have the opportunity to have people who want to see, you know, their parties have victory and they want to see change in America.
01:44:39.000So Mike Lindell really wants to find ways to have more secure elections to make sure that your vote matters.
01:44:45.000And Matt Brainerd is, of course, advocating for early voting because he says, you know, these are the tools we have at hand and we need to push forward that.
01:44:51.000And I think it's an important conversation, but lively, very, very lively.
01:44:56.000Serge and I, I think both had to get our ears checked afterward.
01:44:59.000It's interesting that the Democrats have, quote, put democracy on the ballot when they refer to people like Donald Trump, who believes that the election was stolen, as undermining our republic.
01:45:10.000For the entirety of Trump's term, Hillary Clinton referred to him as illegitimate, said the election was stolen.
01:45:19.000And Jeh Johnson, Obama's DHS secretary, testified under oath that while the Russians tried, they failed to change a single vote tally in 2016.
01:46:56.000Dude, well, it's funny because this guy, there's a funny picture of a Native American dude wearing a shirt that says, like, the Caucasians.
01:47:06.000Liberals are like, oh, how would you feel about that?
01:47:07.000I was like every white person I know thinks that's funny.
01:47:13.000I've actually talked to a friend of mine who's Native American and one of the reasons they say that why it's less offensive for the fighting Irish is because there were people of Irish extraction that were on the board of the school.
01:47:27.000Whereas when these other organizations were formed, whether we're talking about, we're not talking about not the Redskins, but If we're talking about the Indians, right, like the ideas there, they were like, they had the first Native American players.
01:47:55.000I feel like this is the first I've ever heard this information.
01:47:57.000But the reason is what they're saying is that because there's nobody in the front office that actually has voting power for the team, that that makes it offensive.
01:48:22.000I have a theory about this, which is, okay, so when you have a good friendship with somebody You can make fun of them, you can poke fun at each other, and it's fine.
01:48:31.000If you're in a healthy relationship with someone, your girlfriend or your wife, you can tease each other, you can make fun of each other, but sometimes you see that couple who joke about each other and they're clearly being nasty and trying to disguise it as banter and it's extremely uncomfortable.
01:48:45.000I think where we are as a nation today, with racial politics, is we are that second couple, where you make a joke, and maybe even in the moment, the joke you're making is just lighthearted, but because the relationship's gotten so sour, people are angered by it.
01:49:03.000People think you're making a dig, whereas when the races are actually getting along, We're able to make fun of each other.
01:49:09.000It's actually a sign of health when different racial groups can make fun of each other for things that are unique to that group.
01:49:15.000And again, if it's your friend group, I think that's one of the differences, right?
01:49:19.000When we're talking about the internet, these are people you don't know in the real world.
01:49:22.000If it's your friend group, that's different.
01:49:24.000Unless your friends throw you overboard.
01:49:58.000Yeah, yeah, I mean, you're right that that's very possible, especially because if someone's gonna say that on television to a black person, the idea that they haven't, like, tested that with their own little market research behind the scenes is crazy.
01:50:09.000He said it to a white person, a senator.
01:50:41.000For Mr. Elder, would allowing churches or similar to establish boarding schools to enact cultural, excuse me, culture transplant under the school choice initiatives be able to ameliorate some moral, some modern moral degradation?
01:50:57.000Do I believe that churches should set up schools to teach people stuff?
01:53:18.000Every now and again, you'll have some award ceremony that people cry about giving a majority of their awards to white people, and it ends up being proportionate to the population.
01:53:26.000So it's like, you know, they gave 65% of their awards to white people.
01:53:30.000It's because it's like 65% of people in the country.
01:53:50.000When somebody says, like, yeah, statistically, in the United States, if trans-continued white people are going to be a minority, like, left-wing people will celebrate that.
01:53:57.000Could you imagine celebrating that about any other group of people?
01:54:36.000The Constitution had to be amended for the income tax.
01:54:39.000If you look at the Constitution, none of this stuff, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, none of that was envisioned by the founding fathers.
01:54:45.000If I could rule the world, which I can't, I'd put it back to that.
01:54:49.000Do you think it would be possible, you mentioned that you wanted spending to be at 10% of GDP, do you think it would be possible to have that much revenue with those policies?
01:54:58.000Yes, if you look at some of the things that we, meaning the government operates, whether it's Amtrak, whether it's the national parks, there are lots of things that could be leased.
01:55:08.000The Hoover Dam, I could go on and on and on about things the government's running that The private sector could run and we could generate fees and meet the small limited obligations that the federal government is supposed to have.
01:55:27.000From Roma Nation, do you think there's a possibility that the reason Biden was chosen by the quote deep state unquote was to fix the issues that he created with the Ukraine scandal so it doesn't expose other people in the government doing the same thing?
01:55:40.000I think Kim said something like that last week.
01:56:36.000We have here from Satosha Catergator, keeping families together and promoting the Catholic sense of subsidiarity would solve a myriad of socio-economic issues.
01:56:51.000Her and I clearly don't always agree on everything because she just said, also I want to publicly apologize for accusing Seamus of stealing anything.
02:00:15.000I believe that had we not passed the Civil Rights Bill, eventually Jim Crow would have fallen of its own merit because nobody would have gone to a restaurant, nobody would have gone to a state where we have Jim Crow laws.
02:00:28.000So it sped up something that I think would have happened ultimately anyway.
02:00:31.000Yeah, I think there's a good argument to be made that companies want to be able to serve a wider variety of people, and these laws being imposed on them actually made it harder for them to make a profit.
02:00:43.000So not even from the perspective of them wanting to care about helping people, you could just imagine companies wanting to lobby and push against these on the basis of it costing them money.
02:00:50.000You know, and these private companies, private bus companies, they wanted to be able to serve everybody.
02:01:16.000Well, and you can also imagine for buses or other forms of public transit at this time, especially in the South, with the economic disparity that existed between black people and white people, it would be less likely for a black person to own a car.
02:01:27.000So you actually had a larger customer base there that they were forced by the government to discriminate against.
02:01:31.000So there was every incentive on their part not to do this.
02:01:34.000We have from Carlo Mango TV, Mr. Elder, how can we save California or are we doomed like Sodom and Gomorrah?
02:01:44.000You gotta hit rock bottom, and at that point, you begin to rethink your assumptions.
02:01:48.000Apparently, California has not yet hit rock bottom.
02:01:50.000I still am convinced most voters are commonsensical, and if you can explain to them that it is in their best interest to do X, Y, and Z, they will.
02:01:57.000I believe that the captain of the Titanic would have taken evasive action had he known Iceberg is ahead.
02:02:02.000It's our job to tell him, hey voters, Iceberg ahead.
02:03:38.000This has been an absolute delight, both an extremely informed and very fun conversation.
02:03:42.000I, first and foremost, think we should all give a shout out to Seamus, who has really just helped us.
02:03:50.000So no, Seamus runs his own company, Freedom Tunes.
02:03:53.000He has his own life, as it turns out, and also he really just did incredible work this week, and I'm so grateful to have been able to be on the show with you every night.
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02:05:22.000Why is it we're talking about your name and how you yes.
02:05:24.000Yes, sir Why is it that private detectives are called Seamus's?
02:05:27.000You know why it's because of a hurtful racial stereotype that white people were more likely or that Irish people were more likely to become members of law enforcement Something like that.
02:05:36.000Yeah, I think I think that detectives are more likely to be Irish I know it hurts me.
02:05:42.000I think it's because people name Seamus are really good at figuring stuff out Yeah, this has been a fun week it has been stressful, but I feel like we did well Seamus good job Yeah, man, and you did an awesome job, by the way.
02:05:56.000Serge was, this whole week, giving me cues and just extremely helpful, so thank you.
02:06:00.000And Serge passed me the little post-it note while I was, when we first started.
02:06:04.000I don't have my glasses, I couldn't read this.