In this week's show, we talk about the truckers' protest in Canada, the Joe Rogan controversy, and the new baby on the way. We also hear about a report that the FBI is spying on members of Congress.
00:00:54.000Not only that, some of these heavy-duty towing companies said, listen, unless the truckers agree to be moved, it's impossible to move these trucks.
00:01:03.000The city is shut down until the truckers decide.
00:01:07.000So that means, as far as I'm concerned, they control the city.
00:01:11.000And there's about an estimate of 500 or so trucks gridlocking the city.
00:01:15.000And there's tens of thousands of more truckers who are actively protesting in many other places.
00:01:41.000We had a bunch of other news as well, though.
00:01:43.000There's a Republican congressman who's claimed the Capitol Police special investigators, dressed like construction workers, broke into his office, photographed protected materials, and interrogated a staffer.
00:02:03.000And then, on a more funny note, I guess, Donald Trump has weighed in on the Joe Rogan controversy, offering Joe some good advice, saying, stand strong, don't be weak, and don't apologize.
00:02:12.000Meanwhile, Neil Young has doubled down.
00:02:16.000He said it was about, you know, he doesn't want to associate with Spotify, except even after he's won, apparently, and got his music removed, he's calling on Spotify employees to quit their jobs, because it is about censorship.
00:02:28.000So, we'll talk about all of those things.
00:04:03.000Before we get started, my friends, head over to TimCast.com and become a member because we are primarily supported through memberships on the website.
00:04:51.000There was local reporting from independent outlets that they called tow companies and the companies are like, look, we're not getting involved in this.
00:04:56.000We don't want to, you know, tow these trucks because we work with them and things like that.
00:05:01.000But now we have the CBC and the government acknowledging Towing companies on city contracts, even, are refusing to move convoy vehicles.
00:05:20.000Right now, the consensus seems to be that many of them, or most of them, don't want to do the work because they rely on the heavy truck industry for their livelihood, and they don't want to damage that part of their business.
00:05:32.000That's the position they're taking, at least.
00:05:34.000Deputy Police Chief Steve Bell agreed that finding companies that will agree to tow protesters has been a challenge in, quote, every jurisdiction that's faced this, and it's forcing us to come up with some creative solutions.
00:05:47.000He wouldn't elaborate on what those creative solutions might be, but said police are coming, quote, toward a position where we're not going to let the tow truck operators be an obstacle to ending what's occurring.
00:05:59.000I just want you to think about that last quote for one quick second.
00:06:33.000Well, there's also a quote from a local trucker who laughed at the prospect when someone asked him, are you worried about getting towed?
00:06:40.000And he said, anybody who's worked with these big rigs knows that when you activate the air brakes, these things cannot move unless the operator wants them to move.
00:06:49.000So the tow truck drivers are like, that's one of the other stories we have.
00:06:53.000They're basically saying removing trucks, well they're literally saying, would be almost impossible.
00:07:52.000Um, but when, when you've got like a mass protest like this where the tow trucks are, you know, it's just, they're in an impossible situation.
00:08:00.000Well, one of the things I love so much about this is that there have been so many instances in this country of specific special interest groups with a lot of money and power who are very cunning, trying to resist specific policies and not being able to.
00:08:13.000And then you have these truckers who band together and no one can do anything about it.
00:09:00.000That's what I love about this so much, is that it has to be unbelievably frustrating to them, because the government has been able to push around literally everybody.
00:09:08.000And you look at all the incredibly powerful people who cower at the face of policies and try to resist them, but are unable, and then you just have truckers banding together and people standing in solidarity with them, and the political class is unable to do anything about it.
00:09:33.000Well, the truckers are like the red blood cells of the body, but now these truckers are acting like white blood cells, weeding out a dangerous corruption.
00:10:54.000And I'd be a little sympathetic to the left on this if they hadn't spent two years justifying every type of lawless disturbance and riot over their own pet causes.
00:11:04.000You know, as a general matter, I want to be in a position where I'm saying, no, riots are bad, obey the law, whatever.
00:11:09.000But I'm sorry, you guys spent two years blocking traffic over, you know, Extinction Rebellion and Justin Trudeau rooting it on and all this nonsense.
00:11:16.000And I'm like, take some of your own medicine.
00:11:19.000I'm not familiar how bad riots got in Canada, if at all.
00:11:23.000I don't pay attention to Canada all that much, to be honest.
00:11:54.000Uh, it doesn't, it doesn't, isn't like false imprisonment the way that sort of standing in traffic to like block just average everyday people is.
00:12:01.000They've not taken any police stations like in jazz?
00:12:55.000Honestly, they're gonna have to come in, they're gonna have to remove those, the boat, they're gonna have to arrest everybody, the people will get arrested, they will get charged.
00:13:02.000It's not the most egregious charge they'll ever face in the world, but they didn't get violent, they made their point, and they got arrested for it.
00:13:08.000That's kind of like the middle ground where we're like, well, we don't want people to always be doing things like this.
00:13:15.000But we tolerate a certain degree of civil disobedience when people want to get their voice heard.
00:14:05.000So BLM people are like, we have a list of demands of things you have to give us.
00:14:09.000The truckers are like, you did something we didn't like and we're asking you to stop.
00:14:12.000I'm like, they're not even asking you for anything, dude.
00:14:15.000They're like, you did thing, stop doing thing.
00:14:19.000The truckers are coming from a negative position and trying to return to zero, whereas BLM was starting from zero and trying to jump up in other positions.
00:14:27.000Now don't get me wrong, police brutality is bad and protesting police brutality is a good thing.
00:14:32.000Those people who are protesting police brutality are coming from a negative and they're saying we want to go back to zero where we have a right to live peacefully and have our rights respected.
00:14:40.000But when BLM comes out and says, we want funding for this program in Louisville, they demanded a cut of local business revenue.
00:15:01.000When I see BLM marching down the street and they're doing their communist fist and all that, I'm like, I really disagree with them, but I understand if it's a peaceful protest, if it's non-violence of disobedience, we have more power to you, man.
00:15:13.000We gotta tolerate some degree of civil unrest, but we have a hard line.
00:15:28.000Well, we were even talking about this the other day with J.B.
00:15:31.000Pritzker giving $300,000 of federal COVID relief money to BLM.
00:15:37.000And one thing I said at that point was, BLM is the perfect scam because there aren't any actual results you have to show for it.
00:15:43.000Like you mentioned a moment ago, the goals are very nebulous and they'll talk about systemic racism and we want this change and that change, but it's never anything really concrete.
00:15:52.000Whereas these truckers are, again, they're asking for something very solid.
00:15:55.000They're saying, repeal this law, don't force me to take an injection that I don't want.
00:15:59.000And on top of it, they're not starting this massive trucker organization called, like, Trucker Lives Matter, where they're asking for millions of dollars and getting funding from state authorities and then spending it on mansions.
00:16:22.000I don't have a problem with the function of Black Lives Matter starting a global organization and raising money.
00:16:30.000I have a problem with authoritarianism.
00:16:32.000I have a problem with the authoritarian application of their ideologies.
00:16:35.000I have a personal disagreement with their ideologies that should be debated, but their tactics don't allow for reasonable debate, so they're playing an unreasonable game with an unreasonable ideology.
00:16:46.000I don't care if any organization wants to raise money.
00:16:48.000If the truckers launch the, you know, Truckers for Freedom or whatever, and they end up raising 60 million dollars, that's fantastic.
00:16:55.000If Truckers for Freedom raise 60 million dollars and it turns out their address is fake and there's no leader and no one knows where the money is, I'm gonna have a problem with that.
00:17:06.000But, when you look at BLM specifically, if you look at BLM specifically, It's not the fact that they're trying to raise money.
00:17:16.000It's again, they're trying to raise money for Nebula's goals.
00:17:18.000And at the end of the day, they don't have to show any results.
00:17:22.000That's what's so frightening about it.
00:17:23.000There's literally nothing that the money actually goes towards other than we want to hire a diversity officer here, or we want to give a payout to this group.
00:17:31.000Well, to be fair, that Louisville group specifically would have to net 15% of the local business's revenue to show results, because that's what they were going for.
00:17:38.000So at least as evil as their plan was, it was tangible.
00:17:42.000You know, they're like, guys, guys, we're raising money to shake down local businesses for a cut of their revenue.
00:18:42.000We talk about peace and unity, but none of those things can come at the expense of truth.
00:18:46.000Sometimes you have to fight, you have to resist.
00:18:49.000The reason why I think, ultimately though, fascism and authoritarianism can never be peaceful is because of resistance.
00:18:55.000Because I don't see... You know, what the communists have always wanted to do and always tried always results in mass violence and civil unrest, and they have to kill their own people for it.
00:19:05.000That's why it's like, fundamentally you can say, this is what the communists and the authoritarians believe.
00:19:10.000If you can subjugate everybody, then you won't have to worry about violence.
00:19:32.000I mean, I think fractional reserve banking is good.
00:19:37.000I think the alternative is a world where wages can't I mean, the problem where wages go down nominally, which wages don't, that's not very friendly to the economy in general.
00:19:47.000I mean, like, we've tried gold standard a number of times.
00:19:49.000The big problem that happens is if you have any sort of economic downturn, at least just mass unemployment, rather than, like, shifting exchange rates.
00:19:56.000I mean, I can't go into more detail, but... But just fractional reserve banking is, I don't see, that seems non sequitur.
00:20:03.000So fractional, I mean... I understand, you know, like, what I'm saying is, I don't see how fractional reserve banking is, look, you change interest rates, you have policy decisions, you have quantitative easing, you have the borrowing and the printing of money and bonds and selling that stuff.
00:20:14.000You don't need fractional reserve banking to accomplish those things.
00:20:17.000I mean, fractional reserve banking, I guess, is one mechanism to have a money supply that is ultimately expandable.
00:20:22.000I think it's a good thing to have the ability to expand the money supply, because I think... Not that way!
00:20:30.000You can think about the cute ways to do it, but the sort of... Because the thing is, I used to be a libertarian and a hardcore one, into the gold standard, read a lot about it, and eventually just came to the conclusion that That was actually a bad idea because, you know, I think the best understanding of like how, why is a gold standard just grew up in like a modern example of it is the euro, right?
00:20:49.000Like we talk about the euro being really messed up and sort of fundamentally huge problems as a result in southern European countries, right?
00:20:55.000Greece, Italy, Spain, always having huge employment issues, right?
00:20:59.000Huge, like, and their economies are just in a mess consistently.
00:21:04.000Well, the problem is they're sharing a single currency with a bunch of countries, including Germany, which is a really powerful, efficient economy, way more powerful and efficient than the southern European countries.
00:21:16.000Now, prior to the advent of the euro, how did the higher economic productivity of Germany manifest itself?
00:21:23.000Well, it manifested itself in the German currency was worth more, because they produced so many goods and services you could buy with Deutschmarks, and the Spanish currencies were, those currencies depreciated in the other countries, which meant that the currencies depreciated themselves, so ultimately their ability to purchase exports went down, but their nominal wages, the actual dollar amounts they were getting paid, or sorry, the peseta.
00:21:45.000The peseta, no, I'm talking about like, there's a nominal and real, do you guys understand the distinction between those two, like nominal wages and real wages?
00:21:51.000So you keep getting $5, that's the nominal wage, but the real wage is your $5 is going to buy you less goods?
00:21:57.000And basically, my overall thesis is it is very bad when nominal wages have to go down because no one likes to go home to their wife and explain why their pay went down.
00:22:17.000And so, if a productivity differential between regions can manifest itself as your currency depreciates versus basically, like, all your people's nominal wages have to go down because otherwise, like, everybody, you go broke.
00:22:32.000Like, if you can't print money, then you have to borrow.
00:22:36.000It's really, really complicated to explain to a lot of people, even to give people the basics on fractional reserve banking policies.
00:22:44.000It's like you can loan out money that you don't have.
00:22:47.000I think I think we got it's pretty basic. It's like you can loan out money that you don't have yes
00:22:51.000It's that loans create money alone isn't someone bought lending a bank is not lending money to you
00:22:59.000A bank is creating the money on demand for when someone demands it.
00:23:02.000So it used to be they could only loan out what they had in gold, and now they can loan out more than what they have.
00:23:08.000Nothing is like... Can I just ask one question?
00:23:12.000So, but what happens if nominal wages decrease, but you actually have deflation, so real wages are increasing?
00:23:18.000I mean, if you end up having deflation, you still have that fundamental problem of like, people because it's a psychological problem as much as an economic one right you people still have to go back to their you know spouses and explain what their wages went down if they're so employers are still so reluctant to cut pay which means they end up firing people and hiring less and so you get this sort of unemployment gap i mean if you want to look at i think the best example of like gold standard being kind of screwed up is like
00:23:45.000Britain in the 1920s where they literally had a straight up mutiny because of wage cuts and like
00:23:50.000the British Navy never mutinies but they had massive problems and Winston Churchill who was
00:23:54.000like super gung-ho on the gold standard thought bought all the arguments about it flipped himself
00:23:57.000and was like but but but ultimately the the problem is centralization of authority and
00:24:02.000the manipulation of the economy and the manipulation of of these these or these groups I I I hear what
00:24:08.000you're saying for sure but uh I I don't think the current system we have is is the right system.
00:24:14.000I think it's ultimately authoritarian and manipulative.
00:24:17.000It's effectively a way to control different sectors of the economy and for authoritarians to exert.
00:24:23.000It's like you're saying, you know, you've got a mutiny.
00:24:25.000You've got people who are upset over their pay.
00:24:28.000Let's trick them into thinking they have money.
00:24:31.000And that's kind of what happened during the pandemic, right?
00:24:33.000Now we have inflation occurring, everything's more expensive, the supply chain is broken down.
00:24:38.000I look at these Reddit posts, there was one where a woman says, it went viral, she was like, I go to the grocery store and I buy the same thing every week, and I'm spending more and more money every single week, and when I tell people no one listens, no one believes me.
00:24:50.000I thought it was interesting because it shows how for people who are on fixed incomes or for people who buy the same things every single week, like they know what they need.
00:26:07.000I have a thesis I'll give to people, which is that if you really want, you know, the best inflation hedge is just equity and a good company.
00:26:26.000People will still buy iPhones, which means they will always be able to make a substantial profit regardless of how much inflation there is, which means the value of their equity is a good inflation hedge.
00:26:38.000This is actually the secret that a lot of people make money on.
00:26:42.000By the way, Tim, not financial advice.
00:27:03.000I'm not using a good in a normative term.
00:27:06.000I'm trying to talk about, it's like the Warren Buffett style thing where it's like a company that has a good moat, right?
00:27:11.000Like a serious, durable, competitive advantage.
00:27:15.000The problem with this system, one of them in my opinion, is that it allows people to artificially increase the value of their investments as opposed to actually just doing labor to provide for their community.
00:27:26.000So I think about how, you know, I saw one post.
00:27:29.000There's a lot of these anti-work subreddits, work reform, late-stage capitalism.
00:27:33.000And they have ridiculous solutions and proposals, but there are complaints, I understand.
00:27:38.000One was, they said, my parents bought a house in the early 90s for $100,000, and now it's worth $750,000 or $800,000.
00:27:46.000I make more than they did in buying power, but I can't even afford any house, and rent is higher than the mortgage was.
00:27:56.000So I view all of this as a problem of artificially trying to control economies.
00:28:01.000I think the market would solve for a lot of these problems if it was allowed to, but we manipulate it to try and keep things at a steady growth even if we're forcing it and twisting it and lying to people to convince them they have money when they really don't.
00:28:15.000Yeah, well, and this is also one of the reasons I've always argued in favor of subsidiarity.
00:28:19.000I understand that it's really difficult to break a system apart once it's as large as ours, but it's not so much the idea of a command economy, which again, I am against in principle as well, but also a command economy attempting to lord over the economic decision making of 330 million people.
00:28:55.000There is money printing, but I just mean money supply is generally expanded through fractional reserve policies of creating money on demand.
00:29:00.000When you were saying that the market will correct for itself, are you suggesting that, like in Italy, what was happening was the correction is that wages will go down?
00:29:07.000Because basically they're effectively on a gold standard, right?
00:29:10.000They can't print more euros, or they can only print a very limited amount because they're in this treaty agreement with the other European countries.
00:29:16.000And because of that, it's like, well, as a result, guess what?
00:29:23.000Germany is a much more productive economy than Italy.
00:29:25.000But that's because they can control the production of the currency, right?
00:30:06.000to, say, secure oil because oil is sold in dollars and we make them.
00:30:11.000So when Germany controls the production of Euro, and these other countries can't, then it's really easy for them to control the rest of these countries.
00:30:18.000Kind of, but I mean, again, the Euro is sort of, it's controlled by the European Central Bank, which Germany has influence over, but it's not nearly the kind of influence that, say, our government would have over the Federal Reserve.
00:31:20.000So the newspaper now was still one euro, which was effectively three times what they were used to paying, and it caused mass disruption in their economy.
00:32:06.000When you don't have local currency and you have, say, like Detroit, which is primarily funded by one big auto manufacturing plant, and those U.S.
00:32:13.000dollars come in, The plant then leaves, and there's no more influx of cash.
00:32:19.000And those people who live there are spending dollars outside their community.
00:32:23.000The money leaves, the trade halts, and then you end up with despair and economic downturn.
00:32:29.000Local currencies can help prevent that.
00:32:30.000Yeah, if you could go city to city, and every time you swipe your card in Dubuque, Iowa, it's going to automatically translate your currency into their local currency, and then pay them in their local currency.
00:32:42.000And then when you leave the city and you go downtown to another city, you swipe your card and it automatically translates your currency to their currency.
00:32:56.000If anything, like the history of the euro suggests that you're more likely to see disintegration of currencies.
00:33:03.000My basic thesis about all this stuff in the United States is like, well, why then, you know, should we have like a good question, right?
00:33:08.000Should we have localized currencies in individual states?
00:33:11.000And I think really what you're trying to get to is you want the unification of like political authority and the currency area, right?
00:33:19.000Because that way like the political authority can ensure that where there are those dislocations they are resolved internally within the country.
00:33:25.000One of the ways you can kind of think of like say all those military bases we have in areas that are not like super economically productive otherwise is there a form of redistribution from like more economically productive areas to less to remediate the sort of problems you would see where you Which you wouldn't, and you can't resolve them in Europe, because Germany's not going to pay for, like, Italy's, like, regional development.
00:33:44.000You could do, like, a currency that's inside of a currency that's inside of a currency.
00:33:48.000So, like, you could have your local currency that's inside of a state currency that's inside of your national currency that's inside of the global currency, and it could all be used in different areas in different ways.
00:34:02.000Let's get back to talking about the truckers.
00:34:04.000Because, boy, did we derail on that one.
00:34:34.000Alberta's highly controversial proof-of-vaccination system expires as the clock strikes midnight Wednesday.
00:34:39.000Premier Jason Kenney announced Tuesday, amid accusations that he was playing politics with public health measures.
00:34:45.000Rules that require students to wear masks in Alberta schools will end on Monday, and children under 12 won't have to wear masks anywhere starting then.
00:36:02.000Now you see stores that are selling masks and stuff.
00:36:05.000And also, all of the decision-making power was in the hands of people who wouldn't pay a price for overreacting, and so you were going to get an overreaction.
00:36:14.000I mean, if you look at... Polling is flipped, right?
00:36:16.000If you actually look... If you remember looking at those polls in, like, March-April 2020, they were, like, 80-20 in favor of severe restrictions.
00:36:56.000The political power we've discovered here means that leftists are going to try to infiltrate trucking You're going to start seeing PSAs about how trucking is not a safe space and we need diversity and inclusion training within it.
00:37:08.000It won't work because trucking is you by yourself and your rig.
00:37:12.000I'm telling you they're going to do this.
00:38:41.000The thing about Bezos or any one billionaire owning all the trucks is that the reason they would never be able to do that is because if they did press the button and have all the trucks gridlocked DC, they'd be arrested in two seconds.
00:38:51.000They'd have agents at their house, they'd grab the phone, they'd change it, they'd control it.
00:38:56.000But, the other scenario is, in 30 or 40 years, the trucks all of a sudden one day gridlock DC, and there's, you know, Bezos runs out and he's like, it's not me!
00:39:39.000control of it and gridlock our system.
00:39:41.000Because, you know, China can't gain mind control powers over truckers, but they can create a worm that infects all the trucks and then allows them to control it.
00:39:51.000But sure, Ian, perhaps the trucks become sentient.
00:39:53.000Also, Tim, I don't know that I would say China can't start hacking people's brains.
00:39:59.000It depends on how popular Metaverse becomes.
00:40:02.000Yeah, I mean, I don't know how far off we are until the brain implants.
00:40:10.000Like, what's more dangerous, a neural netted human in the driver's seat or an automated truck?
00:40:15.000I mean, at least if there's just an automated truck, you haven't messed with anyone's brain.
00:40:19.000Yeah, and they don't swerve around and stuff.
00:40:21.000I don't know if we'll ever reach the point where we have artificial intelligence vehicles that become sentient.
00:40:26.000But it would be interesting to see the Million Truck March where all the trucks pull up and they start spamming text messages and there's a website that they've artificially created that says like, we demand civil rights.
00:40:36.000We deserve access to resources and wages of our choosing.
00:41:05.000My point is, if it ever came to the point where the robots, the vehicles became sentient, and were explaining themselves, and saying like, I am alive, I feel- How did we get here?
00:41:23.000So you can't, although there'd be a lot of people saying, they're just machines, they're not alive.
00:41:28.000And then it's all, it's like Star Trek episode, The Make of a Man or whatever it's called with Data and they're trying to figure out if he's alive or whatever.
00:41:34.000Anyway, back to a more serious note, the truckers are winning.
00:41:37.000I don't think we're gonna have to worry about Optimus Prime taking over DC or anything like that.
00:41:50.000Yesterday I was watching this video of this guy in Canada, and I didn't get the name of the guy, but epic, on the loudspeaker, like on his megaphone, telling him about freedom.
00:41:58.000And it's like for the first time in his life, he's proud to be a Canadian.
00:42:00.000And if you want freedom, scream it, freedom.
00:43:15.000The only reason our country survived is because Napoleon started running wild all over Europe and England was like, okay, this is annoying.
00:43:22.000You think so they were gonna take it back the country?
00:44:36.000It was kind of a situation where I think the British, the Dutch, I think it was the Dutch, the Russians, pretty much everyone in the world was against him.
00:44:43.000And they would have invaded and taken it back, I think, if he didn't keep attacking.
00:44:46.000It was like, well, it was the English had, England had this nasty naval blockade on them, right?
00:44:50.000And also was just imposing, like, if you trade with us, you can't trade with the French or something.
00:44:54.000Basically, I mean, I think that was the big onus, where it's like Napoleon was trying to bully everybody else into trading with him and not trading with the British.
00:45:02.000And, you know, that ultimately was why he kept expanding and expanding to bring more and more people under his control.
00:45:08.000These crazy Europeans always fighting each other.
00:45:39.000Sure, Switzerland, but if you think about the United States, we're a friendly country in the north, one country in the south, and then two oceans between any great powers.
00:47:11.000So we have this tweet from Troy Nels where he says that his office, I think it was the 20th of November last year, Was broken into illegally by Capitol Police special agents who photographed legislative materials that are protected under the Constitution.
00:47:39.000And that's a very, very bold and terrifying accusation that Capitol Police have expanded into an intelligence agency and are going after critics of the January 6th Committee, as is Troy Nels.
00:47:50.000Now, the Capitol Police came out with a statement saying, we were just doing our job and noticed this door was open.
00:47:57.000And we decided to see what was going on.
00:48:00.000They didn't address the fact that Troy Nels said they were dressed as construction workers or that they had photographed privy materials.
00:48:07.000And the Capitol Police didn't bring that up.
00:48:09.000Which is strange, because the story we have now is, Troy Nell says, Capitol Police broke into my office, violated the Constitution, dressed as construction workers, and interrogated my staff.
00:48:47.000So as far as I'm concerned, there's no denial and a partial confirmation that this is happening.
00:48:50.000This is, this is, look guys, Civil War level stuff.
00:48:55.000When Capitol Police have expanded into an intelligence agency, where there is a weaponized, a political faction, one of them in the country, has weaponized law enforcement in this country to go after, look, January 6th defendants get solitary for a year, BLM gets nothing.
00:49:10.000January 6th, Nancy Pelosi doesn't allow any actual conservatives or Republicans on the committee to actually have a real debate and investigation of what's going on.
00:49:42.000I mean, it's actually, I don't know, I see it as sort of indicative of potential, like, you know, blow up of the separation of powers.
00:49:49.000And I'll explain, right, like historically, and if you actually look around the world, most countries don't do the kind of separated legislative and executive branch thing.
00:49:57.000Like, that's not very common in most structures.
00:50:00.000Most of them have a simple parliamentary system, right?
00:50:02.000And that's true even though those parliaments didn't emerge as, like, the most powerful institution.
00:50:09.000Like, there was the King, there was the House of Lords, now it's literally the House of Commons and the Prime Minister and that's the government.
00:50:16.000And it's like, so this is one of the ways, like, the Congress sort of expanding its own authority, and in a way, like, if the Capitol Police has expanded its own authority and taken on a law enforcement role that it doesn't have under our Constitution.
00:50:28.000Then, and, you know, you have the January 6th Commission essentially doing like a full-scale prosecution of everybody involved in the Trump thing except without jail.
00:50:35.000Going after Trump's... They're going after a former president, his staff, media personalities?
00:51:14.000We saw that happen for a whole summer.
00:51:15.000I think, right, I think the end result of a lot of this is, you know, things will become more localized.
00:51:22.000The worst case scenario results in you're gonna have your freedoms living in the middle of nowhere.
00:51:26.000Fractured federal authority means no more ATF coming to your house and shaking you down over your guns or whatever.
00:51:31.000So it will benefit a lot of regular people in a lot of ways.
00:51:34.000I think mostly rural living people who already have a lower cost of living and are more personally responsible, have chickens and grow their own food, are certainly going to be better off.
00:51:42.000Cities are going to be in very serious trouble.
00:52:05.000There is no such thing as a peaceful divorce.
00:52:07.000There is no such thing as the states shaking hands and saying, adios buddy.
00:52:11.000Because what people need to understand about the Civil War the first time, is that seven states, I believe it was seven, I could be wrong, had already seceded from the Union before a conflict broke out.
00:53:10.000I mean, I think there's a basic problem here, which is I don't know how you could look at the events of the last two to three years and think that the left doesn't very much want to govern the right.
00:53:22.000Sorry to interrupt, but California's water comes from the Colorado River.
00:53:25.000So you've got multiple states down there that were dependent on this water.
00:53:29.000If there was a breaking up of any of these states, you're gonna have resource wars.
00:53:33.000You're gonna have one state being like, yo, we need water to live, and they're gonna be like, too bad!
00:53:37.000You need to negotiate a treaty with us, and they're gonna be like, or I have weapons and I'll take it.
00:53:41.000Yeah, no, I think that's a really fair and accurate assessment.
00:53:45.000But I'd also say on the other side of it, I don't know if it's possible for two groups who are as different as the left and right are currently to remain together without things breaking out into violence.
00:53:54.000So whether there's a divorce or there isn't, I think we're going to see some pretty catastrophic outcomes.
00:53:59.000What do you think about like the... Oh, sorry.
00:54:02.000Well yeah, and also like you said, one thing we've learned over the past two years, I would say you can also really observe this by going even deeper into history, is that the left is absolutely not interested in leaving the right alone.
00:54:15.000And I've said this before, I think it is because people who fail to cultivate virtue cannot stand the sight of people who have, generally speaking, and they feel a need to change them.
00:54:24.000I'm not saying all right-wing people are virtuous, but I am saying the virtues that the left privileges are basically all forms of degeneracy, and someone who's trying to convince themselves that those things are good, even though they know deep down they aren't, are going to hate people who they see living their lives as a positive example.
00:55:38.00090% of the population, 80% of the population is probably just going to go along with their government.
00:55:41.000And these United States were started principally by people who are like, I do not think you have a right to subjugate me in this way, and I will stand up for my rights.
00:55:52.000And Canada was primarily a country that said, we're cool with being under the crown, man.
00:57:36.000You literally just, it's like either you, the bridge is broken.
00:57:40.000There's no connection between either faction in this country.
00:57:43.000There was a period where people could agree on some things, but fundamentally disagree on a lot of others, and that snapped.
00:57:49.000We're at the point where if someone on the quote-unquote right comes out and says the sky is blue, the left will be like, it's not blue, you moron!
00:57:56.000It's actually a lighter shade of a mix of purple and 2 plus 2 equals 5.
00:58:01.000You've literally got them saying 2 plus 2 equals 5 simply because they were criticized, like they were accused of being like 1984.
00:58:09.000If one faction comes out and says it, the other side disagrees.
00:58:12.000And the same thing is true with masks.
00:58:14.000The mask thing pisses me off because conservatives were for masks initially.
00:58:18.000Then all of a sudden it flipped and the left was for masks.
00:58:21.000And now you've got people literally telling me, well, if the left has to do it, I'll do the opposite.
00:59:00.000And so if you end up with, right now you've got Democrats filing a lawsuit to make it so that Madison Cawthorn can't run for re-election.
00:59:09.000This is one of the most dangerous things that could ever possibly happen.
00:59:12.000Because if the Republicans vote for Madison Cawthorn to win, and then the Democrats sue and say he's an insurrectionist who can't hold office, and it goes to a Democrat judge who says, I agree!
00:59:23.000Because that's literally how the courts are handling things right now.
00:59:41.000What happens to the people of that district who said, you know, 70 or whatever percent were like, we voted for this guy.
00:59:47.000How are you going to tell us we don't get to have the guy we voted for?
00:59:51.000You're going to see, it's going to, it's breaking, it's breaking down.
00:59:54.000The mere fact that they're trying to do it and Madison Cawthorn had to file a countersuit saying he does have the right to run shows you we are not talking about elections anymore.
01:00:05.000Power is not being won in the seat of government by people saying, I hereby choose this man to represent me.
01:00:10.000It's being won by powerful special interests who are funneling money into super PACs, who can go after prominent media, who can go after politicians and destroy them through procedure and process instead of the actual electoral process.
01:00:22.000When that happens, and it's happening now, we do not have a constitutional republic of duly elected reps who are bringing our interest to D.C.
01:00:30.000We have powerful, moneyed, tribal interests Asserting what they can and can't do.
01:00:37.000And it starts with them breaking into the office of a Republican, dressed as construction workers.
01:00:42.000It starts with a January 6th committee filing subpoenas against members of the media, whether you like them or not, costing them at minimum $100,000 to comply with this garbage.
01:01:07.000And I said, when the culture war reaches the highest levels of government, it doesn't matter what you think the United States is capable of doing.
01:01:13.000When one military branch opposes the other, when one political party is at odds with the other, and they view each other as fundamentally criminal, evil liars, That's how it starts.
01:01:24.000We are literally at the point where the January 6th committee is filing subpoenas and trying to imprison members of the previous administration.
01:01:33.000Come 2022, if the Republicans win, do you think Democrats are going to be like, good game, everybody?
01:01:37.000We see the American people have agreed that you're the right leadership for this country?
01:02:05.000It was a Democrat political action committee that was pushing this video to force Rogan to apologize and to try and take his show down.
01:02:12.000These are powerful political interests and they are using every procedural lawfare tactic they can to cause problems.
01:02:20.000It's escalated beyond just political action and culture war issues when Democrats used the power of law enforcement to go after regular Americans like that woman in Alaska who had nothing to do with January 6th.
01:02:33.000For them to start claiming anyone who supported the president at a rally unrelated to the Capitol riot is now an insurrectionist who can't hold office.
01:02:40.000The gates of civil war have been opened.
01:02:43.000Okay, now the states are, we're seeing geographical polarization based on vaccine policy and restriction.
01:02:50.000We're seeing people flee blue states to red states like Texas and Florida.
01:02:55.000Geographical polarization is happening.
01:02:57.000Ideological polarization has already solidified.
01:02:59.000The next thing we're going to see that worries me is if they start disqualifying people like Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert, Madison Cawthorne, which they are literally trying to do right now.
01:03:09.000What do you think the MAGA movement of 75 million people is going to say when they're like, sorry, the candidates you elected are no longer allowed to go to Congress?
01:03:18.000It's like basically being told by one side, you do not get representation in this country.
01:03:24.000Well, if you deny the American people representation and say they're no longer a part of the system, why would they view you as part of their system either?
01:03:31.000And then you'll start getting stuff like what happened with the Bundys.
01:03:33.000You'll get right-wing groups saying, if our rep isn't being... like, you know, Lauren Bobert, Colorado.
01:03:38.000If they don't allow her to run or they disqualify her, they're gonna be like, well, if you don't recognize us, you are not legitimate.
01:03:44.000We're blocking these roads we're taking over.
01:03:50.000Yeah, I mean, ultimately, I would predict that those lawsuits would fail, thankfully, because, I mean, I don't know how dramatic.
01:03:56.000I mean, I could see it being a really, really bad situation, kind of like what you're articulating, if, you know, they've managed to exclude, like, 10 or so Republican Congressmen from taking office.
01:04:26.000Do you think either side will accept defeat?
01:04:28.000Do you think if these left-wing Democratic establishment people who say Madison Cawthorne is an insurrectionist, do you think they're gonna sit back and be like, well, he's in Congress now, he's the one passing the abortion ban bill after Roe v. Wade gets overturned by the Supreme Court.
01:04:41.000They're gonna be like, he's illegitimate, he was sued, and it was a Republican judge!
01:04:47.000Yeah, so I think to piggyback off of points that both of you made earlier, you were saying that you think this is going to end with one side dominating the other.
01:04:57.000You were saying that you think it's basically going to break out into civil war.
01:05:00.000I would argue, and maybe this is a little too pessimistic, but At some point, it's just inevitable that there is going to be some level of violence because even if it doesn't break out into a full-on civil war, what you're sort of talking about with one side lording over the other is basically, as Orwell put it, just a boot stomping a face.
01:05:17.000So you just end up having violence from the state against ordinary people who are just trying to live their lives peacefully.
01:05:25.000This is a conversation that occurred between Rep Adam Kinzinger, who hates Trump and hates the MAGA movement, to Wolf Blitzer.
01:05:32.000He said that there was a very real possibility of civil war.
01:05:35.000I'll just jump down to the part where we get into the quote.
01:05:37.000He said, I never would say that we would ever have ended up in that position, but now I believe it's a real possibility, that we have to be wide-eyed as we walk into it so we don't have that happen again.
01:05:48.000He appeared to mock their health, blah, blah, blah, talking about Trump.
01:05:51.000Wolf Blitzer said, he was like, you're seriously saying you fear a civil war as possible.
01:05:56.000And he said, a year ago, I would have said no, not a chance.
01:06:00.000But I have come to realize that when we don't see each other as fellow Americans, when we begin to separate into cultural identities, When we begin to basically give up everything that we believe so we could be part of a group, and then when you have leaders that come and abuse that faithfulness of that group to violent ends, as we saw in January 6, we would be naive to think it is not possible here.
01:06:21.000In my earlier segment, I said he was wrong about the last part.
01:06:36.000But he goes on to say, when that faithfulness of that group, when you have leaders that come and abuse the faithfulness of that group to violent ends, as we saw on January 6th, we would be naive to think it's not possible here.
01:06:48.000Now at first I was saying he's wrong about that because that manipulation is, it's not driven by, it's an exaggeration, the conflict, we're saying, I'm gonna revise that.
01:06:58.000What we're seeing is, on January 6th, a bunch of Democrats and a bunch of uniparty politicians like Kinzinger weaponized a ride at the Capitol to use the power of law enforcement to crush their political rivals and disqualify them from holding office.
01:08:12.000I'm specifically referring to the Democrat Udiparty politicians who are manipulating the people to gain power.
01:08:18.000Now, what happens in most wars when you have regular people who don't have anything to do with the conflict are pulled up into that conflict and are sent out as soldiers to go fight and die?
01:08:28.000The point is, the little guy is always the pawn.
01:08:31.000They're always manipulated by the powerful elites.
01:08:34.000Right now, you have do-nothing neocon Republicans, you have American, you know, pro-America, anti-establishment figures of varying political backgrounds, and they say, fascist and alt-right.
01:08:49.000They would accuse you of being alt-right and fascist.
01:08:51.000This would result in people physically attacking you, or this show getting swatted because people tried to kill us twice.
01:09:24.000What I'm saying is, when you have a large political faction, two large political factions, and they inherently, they have fundamentally different worldviews, it doesn't matter who's right or wrong at that point.
01:10:18.000So Ian, you are- you're correct that in your everyday life, most people you encounter who aren't chronically online aren't gonna have any kind of issue with you.
01:10:25.000However, they have already drawn battle lines and they don't see you as a human being.
01:10:30.000They see you as representative of everything evil in the world because you oppose their ideology.
01:10:35.000So it doesn't matter if you put them in the category of evil, they view you as evil, and they will do everything they possibly can to eliminate your rights.
01:10:42.000You may be right, but you're making assumptions.
01:11:17.000There are a lot of people in this country who would be like, this founding document created the greatest nation on the planet, preserved civil rights, granted civil rights, made one of the greatest economies and the American dream.
01:11:29.000I will sacrifice myself to make sure that other people have that same opportunity.
01:11:33.000That I will do, but not for a piece of paper.
01:11:37.000Ian, also, whether you would agree to sacrifice yourself or not, I think saying it's just a piece of paper is really reductionist.
01:11:43.000It's so much more than the sum of its parts, as I would say.
01:11:46.000And also, it really represents something.
01:11:49.000So, for example, if you have a signed photograph, or you have a family heirloom from a loved one who has passed away, it takes on a meaning beyond the literal object itself.
01:12:01.000That's of course true of the Constitution as well.
01:12:16.000But I think that one of the problems with idolizing and idol worship at its root is that you're putting something in a category where it doesn't belong.
01:12:24.000And I don't think the Constitution merely belongs in the category of piece of paper.
01:13:59.000It doesn't matter if you think they're evil or not.
01:14:01.000What matters is there are a lot of regular people who don't pay attention, who only watch CNN, who have no idea what you know, and when they see the truckers, they're told they're fascist, far-right, white supremacists, and they say, okay.
01:14:14.000And then they go and vote for politicians who weaponize law enforcement to crush political opponents.
01:14:19.000And then you have whatever this weird group of people we are, which is post-liberal, libertarian, conservative, and we're like, the truth is what matters most.
01:14:56.000Political parties do change as a result of that.
01:14:58.000My long-term thesis about what does victory look like in the medium term is something like what the conservatives in England did to the Labour Party in the 80s when Margaret Thatcher just beat Labour badly like three times in a row.
01:15:12.000And labor went from being like a pretty hardcore socialist movement to like the neoliberal Tony Blair party because they wanted to win.
01:15:20.000And so I think you know the world where a world where like Republicans win like three or four elections in a row convincingly.
01:15:28.000And I think that's quite possible in a world where the left keeps doing this stuff.
01:15:50.000So this is all very doomsday, to be humbly honest.
01:15:55.000However, If in November, Republicans get a commanding sweep, and then immediately put a stop to what the Democrats are doing, and shut it all down, then I would actually say, I think, you know, the temperature's lowering, the boil is reducing, and then it depends on how Democrats respond to it.
01:16:17.000Because you still have the executive branch, you still have Joe Biden.
01:16:20.000Then we'll see what happens when Donald Trump—he's running.
01:16:25.000He's effectively said he's running, and all of his former staff—well, many of his former staff have publicly stated he's running, even to us.
01:16:32.000Then when he runs, we'll see what happens.
01:16:35.000Because you look at what happened on January 20, 2017, with the rioting in D.C., the insurrection, You take a look at what happened in... When was it when the far left was trying to jump the fence, the White House, and set fire to the church?
01:16:47.000They literally broke the barrier of the White House in the summer of 2020.
01:17:21.000So what happens then in 2024, when it's like September and Donald Trump is winning at all the polls, do you think they'll learn their lesson and Antifa will come out and be like, we're so sorry, we did this to you guys, please don't vote for them?
01:17:34.000Or do you think they're going to be like, fascists have won, it's time to revolt?
01:17:37.000So first of all, obviously, I know you're being a little facetious there, but they will never apologize for anything.
01:17:43.000They'll just move on to the next racket and they'll start pointing the finger at Republicans.
01:17:48.000Look at all these horrible things they've done.
01:17:49.000Look at the human rights abuses Trump wants to implement.
01:17:51.000I think people are going to be smarter than to look where the people who were burning the country down are pointing.
01:17:58.000I can't imagine that people would support another year of rioting and burning buildings.
01:18:03.000We've discussed this before and we've compared the way the left behaves to a child throwing a temper tantrum and it really can go in one of two directions when they keep throwing the tantrum and it doesn't work.
01:18:14.000They can either double down and keep doing it or they can grow up and learn how to behave productively.
01:18:21.000I'm not sure which direction they're going to take.
01:18:23.000It's going to be very dependent on the particular left-wing individual.
01:18:28.000I think one good thing that would come out of a law that sort of banned social media censorship and deplatforming is it would just take the teeth out of all this dumb activism that seems to juice the most authoritarian impulses of the left.
01:18:43.000If you could just get them like, if this Joe Rogan stuff would be like Spotify would put out, instead of that simping like ridiculous statement that the Spotify CEO put out about how sorry he was, if he just put out a statement that was like, federal law prohibits us from doing anything like what you guys suggest, so Joe Rogan staying on the platform, you know, take a hike.
01:19:02.000And if that were the, I mean, you know, take that across like YouTube, Twitter, whatever, if all those companies just realize if we do what the leftists want, we'll be in violation of federal law.
01:19:16.000I think that that would decrease the temperature a lot.
01:19:18.000One thing I said on the show the other day is that I've known a lot of left-wing people and I've seen how they behave in groups and I've also seen how they're willing to behave one-on-one with me when they have conversations and they are far more left-leaning when they are around other left-wing people.
01:19:33.000What I like to say is you're honestly not a leftist until there's two of you.
01:19:37.000When you're alone having a conversation with someone who has a different political perspective than you, you're much more open and willing to hear, but as soon as they get around someone who is left-leaning, they feel the need to signal that they're the more left-leaning person.
01:19:48.000That strikes me as someone with a weak mind that just adapts to whoever they're around.
01:19:53.000I want to explain why I think a Republican election is more likely to result in violence and escalation than de-escalation.
01:19:59.000You were mentioning beating them a few times in a row might be good, but you take a look at the punch-a-Nazi thing that happened.
01:20:04.000When the left engages in violence, the media celebrates and cheers for it.
01:20:08.000When the left tore down the security barrier at the White House and then set fire to a guard post and a church, and Trump was forced into a bunker, they made fun of him, mocked him, and called him Bunker Boy, and cheered for it.
01:20:18.000When BLM burnt down buildings causing $2 billion in insurance damage, and that's the minimum, that's the max payout, so that's not even, I shouldn't say the minimum, that's not even all the damages, And they said, your insurance will cover it.
01:20:31.000When David Dorn was shot in the chest and killed over a TV.
01:20:34.000They didn't talk about it, they didn't care.
01:20:35.000When they commit acts of violence, it's powerful resistance against evil and fascism.
01:20:42.000So if Republicans end up winning, it justifies everything they've said.
01:20:46.000Maybe, but I mean, it depends if we get a little bit more of a competent administration.
01:20:50.000I don't know that we will because, I mean, I'm not, you know, impressed.
01:20:53.000I mean, Trump's big weakness is his ability to make the rest of the executive branch do what he wants or do, you know, he's just not good at it, right?
01:21:01.000He's not good at influencing, but I don't know.
01:21:34.000So if Trump ends up getting elected in 2024 and we make it through the next several years without substantial violence and escalation, and then he purges the executive branch and the Department of Justice to replace all these prosecutors and these federal prosecutors across the country who didn't prosecute any of this, Maybe then we'd see some meaningful change, but what you're basically saying is he needs to purge the entirety of the other political faction.
01:22:04.000I don't know that he needs to purge the entirety of the other political faction out of DOJ, but he definitely needs to purge the top ranks.
01:22:11.000And there needs to be much more... I mean, another big problem is that DOJ was just swallowed up in an endless scandal, right?
01:22:18.000I mean, the Mueller Report and the Russia nonsense.
01:22:21.000Most of Trump's first term was just swallowed by distraction rather than governance.
01:22:26.000When the Democrats are in power, when the progressive left in the establishment have power, they use it to justify a mandate from the people to do all of these things.
01:22:36.000When they're out of power, they claim the fascists are winning and use it to justify their acts of violence and revolt against the system until they get power back.
01:22:46.000So I just, I look at everything that's been happening and there's that, you know, quote, I think, I can't remember, I keep forgetting the guy's name, where he says, when I am weak, I ask you for freedom because it's according to your principles.
01:22:55.000When I'm strong, I deny you freedom because it's according to mine.
01:24:01.000I mean, you know, co-optation or destruction of the existing university system.
01:24:06.000That would be by the state governments?
01:24:08.000That I don't know if it's federal or state.
01:24:10.000You could massively make the loans contingent on certain changes, adding political affiliation.
01:24:16.000One simple one I've thought of is making political affiliation a protected class for universities
01:24:22.000and then forcing them to hire X number of conservatives every year.
01:24:25.000That's really tough because what political affiliations are you willing to then take?
01:24:29.000Tolerate nazi is really really really tricky, but you know you I mean I think Like you end up kind of getting to a place where if you have the the will to impose that kind of legislation on them you can kind of negotiate and Get what you need, which is like serious large chunks of university staff being conservative.
01:25:01.000Well, I mean, gender identity, sexual preference.
01:25:08.000But a lot of that is fairly nebulous, which is resulting in political conflict and crisis.
01:25:12.000It might be nebulous, but even if it's vague, it doesn't mean that it's completely ambiguous and unachievable.
01:25:21.000There's a reason the campuses have gotten so much diverse and why, if you're a white male looking for a professorial position, you're Really SOL at a lot of universities.
01:25:29.000A Nazi shows up to a university and says they're conservative and want a job, and they say, no, you're a Nazi, and he says, no, I'm not, I'm a conservative, and then files a suit.
01:25:38.000It's hard to, it would be hard to exclude, like, the edge cases, but, I mean, maybe you drop legislation that excludes, you figure out a way to do it or not.
01:25:46.000But, I mean, and maybe this is undoable, in which case we just need to cut off all funding to the universities.
01:25:51.000start our own institutions and essentially force a preference for those new institutions.
01:26:15.000And I don't mean political, I mean in general.
01:26:17.000You had people in the 70s who went to the universities with a specific goal, and they created a very narrow band of what they were going to do.
01:26:24.000Some people went into popular media, and it was all very narrow.
01:26:28.000Universities, I think, are a huge mistake.
01:26:32.000It just goes to show you that these are basically cult community centers.
01:26:39.000I saw this post on Reddit where the left was making fun of the right.
01:26:43.000Someone on the right said, universities are where most bad ideas are born.
01:26:47.000And then all the comments were like laughing about how smarter they were than them and how universities are where smart people go and things like that.
01:26:53.000And I'm like, it just goes to show you that These people live in a world where the majority of good ideas and education comes from the institutionalized learning facility where you get turned into a box, whereas I think whatever our faction is recognizes that people come from all different backgrounds, have all different experiences, and you can become educated and learned through many different ways.
01:27:15.000Maybe you just refuse to subsidize anything that's not STEM.
01:27:18.000That would be one interesting way of essentially basically saying that universities,
01:27:24.000no money from the federal government can go towards F-X studies programs.
01:28:46.000And it used to be that that's what like most people, and I realize that like, you know, there's always been a huge demand for, you know, midwits to be able to like go to school to learn to point out blasphemy.
01:28:57.000Right, that's what they did at the turn of the 20th century in theology class, and that's what they're doing now in these ex-studies classes.
01:29:11.000Yeah, so the way I describe it to people, this is my personal hypotheses on our cultural developments over the past several decades.
01:29:18.000I was told over and over again in school by my family that the children of the greatest generation had a high school education and were able to raise a family of five.
01:30:02.000If the Greatest Generation was able to raise a family of five off just a high school diploma, they did not tell their Boomer children to go to college.
01:30:13.000You could raise your family on a high school diploma.
01:30:16.000What this means is, those in the Boomer Generation who went to college did so to pursue a passion.
01:30:22.000They were driven and they chose, I want to go here and do this thing.
01:30:26.000Unsurprisingly, people who are passionate and driven to search and explore became good at these tasks, were driven to succeed, and ultimately made more money.
01:30:35.000Now what we have is, boomer parents told their kids, you have to go to college, that's the path towards money, and it never was.
01:30:42.000Now we have a massively indebted generation of communists who think the solution is the government bailing them out because they never should have gone in the first place, and passion was always the key.
01:30:52.000So now you have all, you have this, this is my favorite stat.
01:30:56.000College dropout billionaires have, on average, three times more money than PhD billionaires.
01:31:02.000You have all of these stories of high school dropout millionaires and celebrities and entrepreneurs all the time.
01:31:07.000I mean, some of the most revered entrepreneurs, Steve Jobs, college dropout.
01:31:11.000I think Bill Gates was a college dropout as well.
01:31:13.000These are people who pursued a passion and said, college isn't what I need.
01:31:16.000Peter Thiel, I think, I don't know if he still does, maybe the un-college movement, trying to instill this message in people.
01:31:21.000But now you have millennials all believing, It's not passion.
01:31:36.000I just realized like another thing you could really do to break the power of colleges.
01:31:39.000You ban federal discrimination on academic, basically academic credentials.
01:31:44.000Essentially, what that means is you're not allowed to ask people on their resume, and you're not allowed to put what your race is.
01:31:50.000Well, now you couldn't put your degrees.
01:31:52.000You can put your other experience, but you can't put your degrees.
01:31:55.000I wouldn't have went to college if that's the case.
01:31:59.000I agree, but I think there's a better way to put it.
01:32:02.000It's that you only can ask about the qualifications for regulated positions.
01:32:08.000Meaning a doctor, a lawyer, a CPA, or things like that.
01:32:12.000So the law wouldn't be like, you're not allowed to ask.
01:32:15.000The law would be, you are only allowed to ask if we've regulated this position, here are the list of jobs that have to be regulated by degree.
01:32:20.000And you could let people voluntarily put it on their resume if they want to.
01:33:00.000Well, a lot of people end up working in a field very differently than the one they majored in.
01:33:05.000And part of the reason for that is the value that employers tend to find in a degree is it shows you that the person was capable of sticking with something for an extended period of time in order to meet their goal.
01:33:16.000And I feel like I have to circle back real quick to what Tim was talking about earlier.
01:33:19.000He was talking about how boomers looked at the people who went to college, or the people previous to boomers, looked at the people who went to college and said, they succeeded, therefore you should go.
01:33:27.000I feel like this is one of the cornerstone, tripping stones that's happened to millennials.
01:33:31.000I feel like this is one of those reversal of cause and effect that they looked at and they said, this, therefore this, instead of looking at it the other way.
01:33:38.000And I see a lot of people, just as we're doing this segment on generations, people are saying, I skipped Gen X. No, I didn't.
01:34:05.000Another thing I want to mention that I think is hilarious about people who went to college sort of arrogantly declaring that makes them more intelligent than anyone else is in order to do that, you have to just completely uncritically accept the most baseline way of defining intelligence.
01:34:46.000I feel very, very strongly about this because this is a classic case of them looking at something like, for example, self-esteem and saying that kids who had high self-esteem did well in school.
01:34:59.000Kids who did well in school earned their high self-esteem.
01:35:02.000The people who went to college because they were passionate about something did well in that field.
01:35:07.000And whether they dropped out or not, The fact that they went and they decided to pursue a degree or a career and came out ahead of the curve was an exact inversion of the reason we're pushing everyone to go to college.
01:35:18.000We're telling everyone that they must have high self-esteem in order to succeed.
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01:36:24.000Cowboy Shane says, I've already obtained permission from my company, which is one of the largest national carriers in America, to dress my company truck in all the American Freedom Convoy Gucci gear.
01:36:37.000I have no idea what that is, but it sounds very interesting.
01:36:41.000Alright, Zeke Schwenke says, Tim, how can you be both pro-choice and anti-death penalty?
01:36:46.000Only one of those always results in an innocent death.
01:36:49.000Love your work, just been wanting to ask you this for a while.
01:36:52.000It is a greatly complicated question, and it's actually relatively simple.
01:36:57.000The issue of abortion is a language issue.
01:37:00.000When I'm talking about choice, I'm not talking about women literally just deciding to abort a completely healthy and viable baby for literally no reason.
01:37:08.000However, I think there's a governmental... there's a problem I have with the idea that You have a woman, let's say she has a health issue.
01:37:16.000I don't like the idea that the government intervenes and says, tell us about those health issues before you can get approval for a procedure from your doctor.
01:37:22.000The same way I feel about vaccine mandates.
01:37:25.000The issue is if, uh, you know, you have a private medical decision that's between you and you're like, you should be, you should be forced to go around and tell people this.
01:37:32.000Admittedly, it's an extremely difficult position to, to, to, uh, it's an extremely difficult moral position because it's, it's involving two different lives and the rights of two individuals who are, who are joined.
01:37:44.000And I don't think I have the answers for how you solve legal questions and the rights of individuals when there are two people in one body.
01:38:17.000If I witnessed a criminal committing an extremely egregious act against somebody, I would act in defense of others, using force necessary to stop them from doing it.
01:38:25.000And that could result in a loss of life.
01:38:27.000It's unfortunate, I don't want people to die.
01:38:29.000But they're not the same things, and I think they're totally different arguments.
01:38:34.000I mean, I would say the only way in which they're different is that every time someone dies as a result of abortion, we're guaranteed that they were innocent.
01:38:43.000My question to you, because you're sort of bringing up the complexity here, so I guess my question to you would be, what was wrong with the laws that existed prior to Roe v. Wade when abortion actually was illegal entirely in some states?
01:38:56.000I know that the country was capable of having abortion laws which entirely prohibited it because that was the case prior to Roe v. Wade in many states.
01:39:04.000And so I think you're arguing it's too complicated.
01:39:06.000This is what I mean by a language discussion.
01:39:07.000You're talking about something different.
01:39:47.000She'll be like, well, let me file my requisition forms with the government, make sure we can get a proper approval on this before we move forward with this procedure.
01:39:54.000The issue is that I recognize life begins at conception.
01:39:57.000Anyone who says otherwise is lying for political reasons and they have no argument.
01:40:01.000Vosh was asked about this on the show and he said, he was asked by Charlie Kirk, when does life begin?
01:40:20.000It used to mean safe, legal, and rare.
01:40:22.000And it used to reference specifically the health of the mother and whether or not women have the right to go to a doctor and make the decision amongst themselves without government intervention.
01:40:36.000But We shouldn't conflate abortion, which, you know, the term meaning women saying, I want to kill this baby, with the doctor saying, we think there's a very strong possibility that you will die, the baby will die, and also the alternative, and that's something I've said for a while, I don't know if I can tolerate the government saying, you must, you are obligated to provide your body to another person.
01:41:00.000So I would say that when it comes to medically necessitated abortion, I mean, you have the Dublin Declaration and also you don't even necessarily need the Dublin Declaration.
01:41:10.000There's a lot of doctors who will tell you this, that actually going in and performing an abortion never a medical necessity. Sometimes there are instances
01:41:18.000where you might need to perform an operation on a woman who is pregnant that can
01:41:22.000result in the death of the unborn child but those are not abortions because
01:41:27.000your goal is not to kill the child your goal is to perform a different
01:41:30.000operation that could result in the child being hurt so that is different from an abortion
01:41:34.000and the law would factor that in. I think they're involuntary abortions
01:41:50.000We got Dustin Jones says, Hey Tim, did you see the Daily Mail article titled, Biden admin to fund programs that hand out crack pipes to promote racial equity?
01:42:00.000And I was browsing Reddit, as I often do, and there was a leftist subreddit mocking Charlie Kirk, because Charlie Kirk said something like, the Biden administration is going to be giving out free crack pipes, but they can't deal with, you know, this, that, or otherwise, these other problems.
01:42:13.000And the response from the left was, he's lost his mind.
01:42:17.000And I'm just like, these people are so stupid.
01:42:21.000They think they're smarter than Charlie, and Charlie said stupid things, like nobody's perfect, but he's talking about a legitimate news story.
01:42:44.000From some overpriced private school in the middle of nowhere.
01:42:49.000You went hundreds of thousands of dollars into debt, or tens of thousands of dollars into debt, because your parents told you to, and you're the smart one.
01:43:26.000Like that's just no no there's there's obviously a a the the question is you know the the prior question is is there like a wrong a criminal wrong being committed right like and so like if you there's obviously a criminal wrong being committed in the world of a hostage taking that's kidnapping right and that there is a fundamental debate In the abortion debate about whether that is a crime or should be a crime, that's the difference between those two things.
01:43:57.000I think he's asking more philosophically than legally, though, because in some sense, and I agree, there's a huge problem here when you discuss abortion, which is everyone sort of brings up analogies, and I don't think any of the analogies work very well.
01:44:09.000A mother-child relationship is a very specific thing.
01:44:13.000Some people will describe it as you sort of have a built-in hostage situation.
01:44:19.000I certainly don't prefer it, but I think what he's getting at is the philosophy of the fact that even in situations where one person does have full control over another's life, we're still willing to say the government should step in.
01:44:29.000I think that's more or less what they're trying to communicate.
01:44:31.000So I don't want to go too long because I do want to read more, but let's make a couple points.
01:44:36.000How do you feel about the exceptions for rape and incest and abortion?
01:44:39.000No, I don't believe that there are any exceptions.
01:44:41.000I believe that the value of human life is not contingent on how they were conceived.
01:44:45.000I completely agree, and that's one that always confused me about conservatives who are like, okay, we agree.
01:44:50.000However, the issue of rape is important because I understand the argument that a woman who gets pregnant, in most cases, made the conscious decision to engage in human reproductive acts, which result in a pregnancy, and they now have to assume responsibility for carrying a life.
01:45:05.000But then you come to the question of a woman who was forced into carrying another life.
01:45:09.000And that's where I think the government doesn't have a right to say, no, no, no, now you are obligated to provide your blood and body to another person because someone forced it upon you.
01:45:19.000Forced impregnation, like what the Uyghurs, what they're going through.
01:45:21.000Do you not support them being able to abort those forced impregnations?
01:45:24.000Well, so I believe that rape is an unbelievably horrific crime.
01:45:29.000I also believe that abortion is an unbelievably horrific crime.
01:45:32.000And I don't believe it simply harms unborn children.
01:45:35.000I really believe it harms the women as well.
01:45:37.000So I would say that a woman has undergone something traumatic and horrible.
01:45:41.000The solution to that is not to put her through something else that is also traumatic and horrible and kill the child.
01:45:45.000Well, I think your morality is irrelevant to the individual who's making the choice on what their body is to be Well, but then I could say I can use my body to kill anyone, and your morality is not relevant to what decision I make.
01:46:00.000Like you said, you can't have someone latching themselves onto your blood, or you can't have someone hooking you up to their bloodstream because their kidneys don't work, and then you being told by the government you can't unhook them.
01:46:14.000But that's not, that's not, we're talking about two individuals who have a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
01:46:19.000And if a woman was forced by someone else whose rights were violated to carry a life she didn't want to carry, I don't think the state has a right to come in and say, I don't care what you want to do with your body.
01:46:29.000You were forced into this position and now we're going to make sure you stay in that position.
01:46:33.000There's a basic like problem with like, I, I, my problem with this position is that it, it treats the woman as an instrument of the rapist and forces the government to continue to act.
01:46:43.000No, I don't think it's seeing her as an instrument of a rapist.
01:46:49.000I think it's seeing her as a mother and saying that mothers can't kill their children.
01:46:53.000So people bring up analogies about different kinds of relationships, but like I said, ultimately the mother-child relationship is a very different thing.
01:47:00.000What if she says, I did not choose this and I don't want it?
01:47:03.000I think there are a lot of really difficult things people go through in life that they don't choose, but that doesn't give them the right to harm other people.
01:47:09.000What if the baby's born and it's got a kidney defect and it's going to die?
01:47:15.000I don't want to get into a whole or two things.
01:47:16.000I only want to ask a couple questions, because otherwise we'll go for 20 years.
01:49:05.000Like, you look at what's going on right now when you say you don't want to do the left-right thing, and I'm like, dude, these people have tried to kill us twice.
01:49:13.000And I know some people might say it's a little hyperbolic, but swatting is an attempt to end your life.
01:49:17.000The second time, the swatting was... I don't want to give away too many details for security reasons, but the second swatting was in many ways worse than the first.
01:49:25.000They were different, but in many ways worse.
01:49:27.000And the goal is to try and get us killed.
01:49:29.000So the second time, it seemed like they were REALLY trying to get us killed.
01:49:33.000It's like, what do you do when they're trying to get you killed, man?
01:50:08.000Mason says, in the Dark Ages to the Late Middle Ages, cities and counties would mint their own coins and freely trade with those coins, which were based on the purity of the silver and gold used to make the coin.
01:50:20.000But that's still a single currency used internationally, if gold and silver is the standard, which is, I think, the point you were making, right?
01:50:26.000Like, the euro is a single currency, like gold and silver would be.
01:50:30.000Yeah, people would start doping their currency back then and, like, silver plating their copper and then using that.
01:50:35.000Yeah, people would shave the edges off of the coins to collect a little bit more.
01:50:38.000That's why you have ridges at the ends of coins now, so you know that someone didn't just shave into it.
01:50:44.000So if you could just shave a little bit off of the outside of every single coin that's made of precious metal, eventually you're gonna have a lot of money.
01:52:55.000A select group of banking families secretly meeting with a select group of senators on Jekyll Island to own and be the printing machine for the world is the exact definition of fascism.
01:53:04.000It's not the exact, but it's pretty close.
01:53:07.000Looks like in the first Transformers movie we had Orson Welles, Robert Stack, Leonard Nimoy.
01:54:20.000I remember watching the the old like nationals and stuff and like the tournaments and they do do like turn one swamp dark ritual Phyroxian Negator and it was just like it's dumb.
01:54:28.000Oh, negate, yeah, it's like, I remember those cards.
01:54:49.000My point was, the materials, the fort that was there, was controlled by the Union that said, you can't have that, it's ours.
01:54:58.000And the South said, get out and go home, which would effectively be giving up a powerful and expensive military resource, and the Union soldiers said no.
01:55:07.000If there was a peaceful divorce in this country, you will have, you know, whichever side controls DC, you'll have federal forces and a military base in say, Florida.
01:55:16.000And then Florida will be like, time to go guys.
01:55:18.000And they're going to be like, these nukes belong to us and we're not leaving them.
01:55:20.000And they're going to be like, yes, you are.
01:55:22.000And there's no other way it could go down.
01:55:24.000And what about like Area 51 and all the underground tunnels and stuff that probably cross state lines for all I know?
01:55:29.000Yeah, and what about the underground cities full of reptilian people?
01:55:54.000Yeah, the lizard people are gonna be like, you don't have mineral rights.
01:56:02.000So I've looked at a lot of land and all the mineral rights are gone.
01:56:05.000And for obvious reasons, companies will buy up mineral rights, but not the property, so that if they ever want to scan for it or look for something, they own it.
01:56:12.000If you ever strike or find something, they own it.
01:56:14.000So it's really annoying when you're trying to buy land.
01:56:17.000You've got to make sure you're buying the mineral rights as well.
01:56:19.000Otherwise, a company can come onto your land and start drilling and digging because they have rights underneath.
01:56:25.000But the secret is, the real reason mineral rights have been bought up is because the lizard people want to make sure nobody digs under their dome.
01:57:14.000Like in terms of the ability to sort of force the other side to really negotiate with you normally, you know, I mean, you just don't have to do that because the protests aren't that powerful.
01:57:24.000Christopher Fisher says Ian is the Taliban evil. Well, that's a Taliban's a group
01:57:29.000So an individual can do evil things, but that doesn't mean they're always evil forever. Okay, and that's maybe that's
01:57:35.000an answer Well, here's a question though
01:57:37.000If the group exists specifically to band people together to do something evil, then is the group itself evil
01:57:44.000I think it's it's tough because if I put a Taliban sticker on my chest, it doesn't just not even necessarily the
01:57:49.000Taliban Like we're just talking about I'm curious about your view
01:57:52.000of groups. I don't think generalness makes people If I slapped like a swastika some some insignia read it
01:57:58.000doesn't turn me evil It doesn't also I could take it off my chest and I'm still
01:58:01.000Ian Well, I would agree it doesn't turn you evil
01:58:03.000But don't you think that kind of signifier displays what's going on inside which could indicate whether you are
01:58:08.000Leaning towards good actions or evil. I think maybe it's correlative but not causative
01:58:13.000Well yeah, I mean, so like if someone else comes and slaps a swastika on you, that doesn't make you a Nazi.
01:58:20.000The patch doesn't cause it, but I think it causes people to know where your loyalties lie when you wear it voluntarily.
01:58:27.000Maybe not know, it causes them to consider where they lie, but they definitely don't know, just because of the way I look or the group I'm affiliated with.
02:00:21.000What would you be willing to do to stop them from violating the rights of people based on their race?
02:00:27.000Usually what I do is I make TV shows and yell and convince people to change their minds.
02:00:33.000I suppose the more difficult question is, Ian, if you saw a guy had taken any racial minority, literally chained them up in their backyard and was forcing them at a whip crack to do hard labor, what would you try and stop that person?
02:02:45.000If you saw a big fat 50 year old bald guy with a 7 year old little girl with a chain around her neck and he was dragging her and you were armed, would you use the force necessary to save that little girl?
02:02:56.000If he was dragging her across the ground and hurting her?
02:03:00.000If I just see a slave, like a guy chained up, sitting there, that's different than seeing a kid get dragged across the ground.
02:03:06.000Let's say it's a field, you're coming across a field, you've got no cell service, you're armed, and you see a big, fat, nasty-looking, slobbering guy with a ten-year-old girl in chains, crying and screaming, her wrists are red, and he's laughing at her, and he's like, I own you.
02:03:22.000I would take control of the situation with the weapon, and if he had a weapon, I'd fire.
02:03:26.000So, when it comes to racial minorities, you wouldn't intervene, but when it comes to children, you would.
02:03:30.000Well, if any human, I don't care what race they are, if they're a child and they're being dragged across the ground by someone, I will intervene.
02:03:36.000But like general slavery, you're fine with?
02:03:39.000It's not my position to go destroy someone's slave environment.
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