Hunter Biden walks as President Trump faces 100 years in jail, 100 years behind bars. As Hunter Biden is given a sweetheart plea deal, he's allowed to walk for everything that he's done, for the laptop, for everything else that we've seen over the past years. All of the headlines, all of the data, the little pieces of information that have come out, the text messages, the emails, the money laundering, the influence peddling, firing Ukrainian prosecutors, and it all comes down to Hunter Biden getting a plea deal for money laundering and given a slap on the wrist. We'll dig into all of it for this charge for lying to the ATF on a gun charge in Delaware while using drugs. Then we want to get into the story of the Titanic, and the people down there with hours left to live, but also the response to it because there seems to be people who are actually rooting in this case for the ocean and for people to die while trapped at the bottom of the ocean.
00:00:00.000Hunter Biden walks as president Trump faces 100 years in jail, 100 years behind bars for
00:00:17.000As Hunter Biden, given a sweetheart plea deal, he's allowed to walk for everything that he's done, for the laptop, for everything else that we've seen over all the past years.
00:00:27.000All of the headlines, all of the data, all of the little pieces of information that have come out, the text messages, the emails, everything we've seen, all the pieces of it, the money laundering, the influence peddling, firing Ukrainian prosecutors, and it all comes down to Hunter Biden giving a plea deal for money laundering and given a slap on the wrist, essentially gets probation.
00:01:10.000The people down there, but also the response to it because it seems like there's people who are actually rooting in this case For the ocean and for people to die while trapped at the bottom of the ocean, potentially within or under or in some case in between parts of the Titanic itself, the sunken wreck.
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00:05:35.000Joe Biden, Continuing his Bay Area fundraising trip on Tuesday, appearing at an event in San Francisco where he briefly addressed news of his son Hunter Biden's plea deal, joined by Gavin Newsom, which we definitely have to talk about because there's been this huge question about whether Gavin Newsom is the candidate in the wings.
00:05:54.000And I'm going to pass this over to our California expert here in a second to talk about this.
00:05:59.000He said, let's see more technological change.
00:06:02.000He said they finally asked him about the Justice Department court filings after a lengthy pause during which the president looked like he wasn't going to answer any reporters.
00:06:11.000We have the story from SF Gate, San Francisco Gate.
00:06:19.000The White House spokesperson who told various news outlets on Tuesday, the President and First Lady love their son and support him as he continues to rebuild his life.
00:06:30.000Look, guys, this is a story where, and look, I know there's been some happy talk out there across the news networks, across some of conservative media.
00:06:39.000I'm seeing it in right-wing sources where they say, all right, well, hold on, just hold on.
00:07:20.000When James Comey, we remember this, right?
00:07:22.000We remember when James Comey, that's what gets me, is that everybody's acting like this is normal.
00:07:27.000Everyone's acting like, oh yeah, well, the president's son gets a, you know, gets a plea deal and he's gonna cop to some of these, you know, tax charges.
00:07:55.000If we lied about, I don't know, our pistol braces, if we lied about our bump stocks, if we lied about shaving off our, uh, well, there's, there's certain modifications that can be made to a semi-automatic AR-15 that we're definitely We're definitely not going to talk about here, but we could talk about in the member show that if you're listening, we're definitely going to have a conversation about that and more.
00:08:13.000But if you lie to the ATF, we all know what's going to happen.
00:09:03.000And that third tier is for people like Donald Trump, but not just Trump, not just right-wingers, people like Julian Assange, people who are troublemakers to the regime, people for whom the legal system, the legal standards get twisted into whatever arcane reading that lawyers and judges will go along with to go after them.
00:09:24.000A paperwork dispute gets treated as if it is handing over the nuclear codes to Vladimir Putin.
00:10:30.000But these are not minor things either, right?
00:10:34.000So we see a lot of influence peddling, we see a lot of political leaders trying to profit off of their position, or the family members of political leaders trying to profit off of their positions, and I think Hunter Biden did that in a particularly egregious way, which is beyond the pale of what we usually see in American politics, for as bad as that gets.
00:10:51.000But on top of that, Hunter Biden didn't just commit crimes that are outside the purview of what the average American might Do or what they could be found guilty of or being put on trial for.
00:11:03.000So it's difficult to outline the fact that there's a two-tier system when it comes to influence peddling because your average person isn't really in a position where they're going to be able to do that.
00:11:15.000So it's difficult to compare the charge they would get to the charge that someone who's the member of a powerful political family would get.
00:11:20.000But when it comes to the gun charges, or when it comes to the dealings with money, let's say, to put it euphemistically, and the fact that he had, I believe, reported his income fully to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars.
00:11:35.000Tim can fact check me on that one there.
00:11:36.000I mean, these are things that even in those amounts, your average American couldn't be capable of.
00:11:41.000But they could commit some variety of those crimes, and they would get in way more trouble for it.
00:11:46.000Well, it's like President Joe Biden said, nobody Fs with a Biden, all right?
00:11:55.000The very same people, the very same people that spent, what did they spend all last week doing?
00:12:00.000When that prosecutor, Jack Smith, got up there at the Department of Justice and he said about Trump, he said, they repeated one refrain over and over, the same refrain you heard on MSNBC, the same refrain you heard on every single network.
00:12:16.000They were doing that because they were front loading it.
00:12:18.000They were priming you psychologically to prepare to respond exactly the way you just said about Hunter Biden because they want you thinking, okay, We did go after Hunter Biden and it gives you a false because.
00:12:34.000It gives you an out to say, well, that's not true.
00:15:05.000And I think that that's why conservatives continue to lose all the time.
00:15:08.000Because they're just, well, we don't wanna cross that line because,
00:15:12.000well, what if they came and did it to us?
00:15:14.000We just went through three years of tyranny, of medical tyranny.
00:15:17.000It's just insane that we're still thinking this way.
00:15:20.000I cannot believe that there are still conservatives online saying, well, we don't want to cross that line because, well, you know, what if they come back and do it to us whenever they gain power?
00:15:29.000Dude, they literally indicted the leader of the Republican Party.
00:15:33.000You think they care about The average Republican out in the street trying to, you know, blue-collar worker?
00:15:59.000That's not, you know, that's not some right wing, uh, paid for Donald Trump internal poll from his campaign or one of these super back polls that gets pushed around every time it's time to, you know, get more donations out.
00:16:30.000They may not be looking into all the little details of everything that Hunter did.
00:16:34.000They're not gonna look into all the little details of everything they're alleging on Trump, but they can see the doubled standard, or in this case, triple standard.
00:16:41.000They can see that there is a different standard for those in power who are favored and those who are in power who are disfavored.
00:16:47.000And Seamus, this is something that you and I were talking about beforehand, and We're definitely going to get into this more in the Members Only Hour because this is the type of situation
00:16:59.000And Ian, I'd love to hear your thoughts on it as well.
00:17:01.000This is the type of situation that leads to instability.
00:17:05.000This is the type of situation that leads to people checking out of the system because they don't believe in the system anymore.
00:17:10.000This is the type of situation that says to people, look, if they come to arrest our guy, if they're using the power of the state, if they're using the power of force to go after our president, at the our leader our opposition leader and if this was
00:17:24.000happening in any other country we'd call it exactly what it is yeah we call it exactly arresting our
00:17:27.000opposition leader right if this happened you know this is something that when people go
00:17:31.000after Putin they say oh Putin arrested his opposition leader exactly the main thing imagine if
00:17:35.000Trump had right imagine if he actually had put Hillary Clinton in jail right exactly I mean it
00:17:39.000would be about how we're a fascist third world country
00:17:43.000You pointed out that about 60% of Americans see this as ideologically motivated when it comes to the charges against Donald Trump.
00:17:50.000Part of what concerns me, as it's almost inevitably the case that some number of that 60% of people not only believe it was politically motivated, but think that it was also a good thing.
00:18:03.000So, some large number of people probably say it wasn't politically motivated, and that's why I believe justice is being served here, but there's likely a contingency that really does believe that this was politically motivated, and it's good that it was politically motivated, because they believe in arresting their political opposition, because they know that they're on the side of truth, virtue, etc., all of the self-aggrandizing things that they would say to promote their...
00:18:24.000When it comes to this question of political instability, I remember what we heard repeatedly through the 2020 riots in order to justify the violence that was happening in the streets was that rioting is the language of the unheard.
00:18:37.000If that's true, why are you trying so hard to silence the right in this country if you genuinely believe That people become violent when they don't have the proper political channels and an outlet to have their voices heard.
00:18:51.000What do you think is going to happen if you arrest the leader of the Republican Party, a former president, and the frontrunner for the upcoming election?
00:19:16.000I don't want anyone who says they do as a LARPer.
00:19:18.000I don't want my family to live through something like this.
00:19:21.000But at the same time, we also can play things out.
00:19:24.000And this is something that Tim prime has been talking about here on the show for years, for absolute years saying that we're seeing this type of instability.
00:19:50.000They're the ones who have already said that the insurrection 1.0 already began.
00:19:55.000And so you are pushing people further and further out of the system.
00:20:00.000At the same time, when you refuse to look into, and YouTube says we can talk about this now, if you refuse to look into election irregularities, if you refuse to look into the way that ballots are counted, the way that ballots are done, because we threw generations of traditions out the window in the name of COVID in 2020, then doubled down on it in 2022 in places like Maricopa County where Kerry Lakes voters were turned away In droves, saying that, oh, we can't vote, we can't count, the ballots are not printed right, put them in door three, oh, don't worry, door three is going to be fine, these Maricopa County machines, et cetera, et cetera, don't worry, it'll all be counted, it'll be taken care of.
00:20:41.000And when you don't, when you, last point is, when people don't believe in the integrity of the system, it leads them to seek alternate options.
00:20:50.000Yeah, but I would also argue, because again, I'm in Los Angeles, one of the things that I do differently than I would argue a lot of people is that I'm directly involved with the community.
00:21:00.000And I know what their needs are, I know what they're asking for, but the reality is that, and I'll be honest, I voted for Donald Trump 2020, but his biggest fault is to continue to push that narrative.
00:21:29.000Because Republicans, I'll be very honest with you, man, Republicans are Sometimes losers.
00:21:35.000I'd say about over 90% of Republicans, Conservatives, Christians, they have this defeatist attitude, this doomer attitude about everything.
00:21:43.000You know, there's a lot of people that flee California.
00:21:51.000Because I refuse to cede a single inch to godless people, to the communists, whatever it is.
00:21:57.000I kind of hate, and I'm kind of sick and tired of seeing conservatives often post, you know, and Tim 2.0, I apologize for this, but sometimes when we tell people, like, it's time to flee the cities, it's like, dude, when you're at war, You need to reinforce warriors on the front lines.
00:22:34.000I just believe that due to my Christian upbringing, I'm just naturally conservative.
00:22:38.000And, you know, my whole family votes Republican now.
00:22:41.000But it's alarming to me to see the party of 1776ers, the, you're not going to take my guns, the, you know, we need to fight back.
00:22:49.000Convincing people, convincing Christians, this is the most alarming to me, is you need to abandon all these parts of America and just flee for safety.
00:22:58.000And the problem with that is, it's not going to be the ballot harvesting, it's Wisconsin just overturned the Supreme Court, right?
00:23:57.000And the thing is, when you have Christians, this is, again, if you're, you know, atheist, if you are, you know, liberal or more libertarian, I can maybe understand it.
00:24:06.000But if you're a Christian conservative, your message to Christians should never, ever, ever be.
00:24:11.000I mean, dude, his disciples of Jesus Christ were sent to the most extremist places on earth, and he said you will be persecuted for it.
00:24:17.000So to me, It's kind of alarming to see so many and so it's it's not going to be the ballot harvesting it's just there's going to be no republicans left and and to talk about the institutions you know people want to be upset at Elon Musk because he hired you know this NBC person but what conservative is out there telling people hey guys don't flee the cities actually become a judge become a lawyer so that we actually have a fair fight at when it comes to crimes oh but the radical DA okay but who's running against that DA
00:24:52.000People flee to Texas and they're harboring all this power and money but then those states are also not becoming as red as people want to say.
00:25:31.000You just listened to your local conservative that said it's time to leave California.
00:25:35.000There's a Senator Scott Wilk who just said that.
00:25:37.000It was one bill that was just passed in California.
00:25:40.000I think there's a couple things to deconstruct here.
00:25:43.000Firstly, I don't entirely disagree with you.
00:25:45.000I think there is some wisdom in saying it could be good for conservatives to move to swing states as opposed to states that are already solidly red so they can help those states Turn red or flip red in local elections and particularly presidential elections, that would be massively helpful.
00:26:00.000However, I think a person ultimately does have to make the decision that's best for their own family.
00:26:05.000And if they're concerned about moving to a state where their child is going to be told by some groomer teacher that they're actually a member of the opposite sex and then put on puberty blockers and then the child can be taken from the parent, I would say that's a realistic concern to think about.
00:26:17.000And so it makes sense for people to say I'm going to go to a solidly red state, because while you're correct, the apostles did go to dangerous places.
00:26:23.000At some point, it is time for Lot and his family to leave Sodom and Gomorrah, because it's going to be destroyed.
00:26:29.000And I'll also say, if your plan is to go into Nineveh and convert those people, you'd better be a Jonah, right?
00:26:37.000You really have to be in a solid place, I think, to be capable of persuading people, especially in a very dark area, a very evil area, of embracing truth.
00:26:51.000So while on the one hand, I think some of what you're saying is admirable about wanting to stay and fight and not giving up your territory, I totally hear all of that.
00:26:58.000That said, it's perfectly reasonable for somebody with a family to say, you know what, I see what's coming down the pike here, I see the Christian persecution that's ahead of us, and I want to get my family somewhere more safe where they can flourish.
00:27:11.000Look, man, I have three children, 16, 14, and 7 years old.
00:27:57.000The reality is that it is your job as a parent to parent.
00:28:01.000You know, people say like, oh, I don't co-parent with the government.
00:28:04.000Dude, if you pay taxes, you're already co-parenting because you're funding a lot of stuff that are going to affect your children, are going to affect everything that you do in life.
00:28:11.000And the reality is, if I'm able to do it, and I agree with you, there are some people that really have to go, but I think it should be a last measure.
00:28:19.000You know, there was a post by Cat Turd.
00:28:21.000He posted, you know, here's five rules to save your family.
00:28:25.000Rule number one, get the hell out of your blue state.
00:28:27.000Second one is go buy land in the middle of nowhere in a red state.
00:28:35.000Five, pat yourself on the back because you just saved your children.
00:28:38.000Bro, there's a lot of homeschooled kids that are not right.
00:28:42.000Just because you homeschool, it's not a promise.
00:28:46.000of being raised right or you're not going to be raised in conflict.
00:28:50.000There's a lot of people that homeschool and unfortunately their children go off to college or university or whatever it is.
00:28:56.000But my argument is not against people that, hey, if it's right for you, but the reality is a lot of the people that I speak with that leave California, it's because of one thing and it's mostly economical.
00:29:09.000My house has become... I can't buy a house out here, whatever it is.
00:29:14.000And so I need to move to a different state to pay lower taxes, to pay less in gas prices, etc.
00:29:20.000But I just don't believe in that personally, man.
00:29:23.000I don't think I was put on this earth to pay low gas prices.
00:29:26.000I'll deal with the gas prices by working harder, making more money.
00:29:29.000And I get the children stuff, but let my testimony not be the standard or to be exalted, but to show to people, dude, even in deep blue Los Angeles on the front lines of communism where Antifa and Black Lives Matter basically run the city council, dude, here we are baptizing kids because there is a need for that.
00:29:49.000And let my children, you know, my son, when he started school last year, he's going to 11th grade now, He's like, hey, dad, just to let you know, there's two trans kids that are changing out in our locker room.
00:30:23.000But eventually they're going to have to face the real world.
00:30:25.000And to me, I've prepared my children to, to understand that there are different lifestyles, but you don't have to pick up your family and be like, Oh, I'm out of here.
00:30:33.000I don't want them to see, you know, the gay, you know, or anything like that.
00:30:36.000It's going to happen no matter whether it's YouTube ads.
00:30:40.000I mean, you look at the non-binary fetish porn in schools, but so Tim has Yeah, to your point about, you know, my normal refrain about get out of cities, you know, and I specifically think about that in terms of children, right?
00:30:58.000In terms of people with children, that when I say get out of cities, that is different necessarily from, or when Poso says it, that is different from the overall political power question.
00:31:09.000So what I'm saying that it is predominantly about crime and predominantly about the fact that we have wanton crime throughout every single major metro area in the United States.
00:31:21.000Homicides are still up over pre-pandemic levels.
00:31:25.000This is largely because of de-policing that has come on the heels of the racial reckoning in the wake of George Floyd.
00:31:33.000You can look at it from Homicide rates to traffic fatalities that go up in the immediate I mean within days of George Floyd's death to the point where you know You've got the mayor of Minneapolis is out there twerking this week twerking in the street We could just see if we find the clip at some point But this is what Jacob Frye is doing out there in the meantime his city has seen homicides explode to 1990s levels so when I say get out of cities I mean get out of cities so that your family can
00:32:02.000live so that your family can actually not be killed by strays or whatever it is.
00:32:06.000But at the same time, when you're looking at elections, which is a separate topic,
00:32:10.000and then you're also talking about potentially schools. So there's three different layers here.
00:32:15.000So one's the personal safety layer, right? You need to get out of a high crime area. It's as
00:32:20.000simple as that. If you can, you need to get out of a high crime area, certainly if it's controlled
00:32:24.000If it's controlled by Republicans and it's high crime, I'd really like to know where that is because we haven't actually been able to find any.
00:32:30.000So Gavin Newsom will play this game, by the way, and Sean Hannity, I guess, wasn't smart enough to respond to him in this way and say, well, red states have some, you know, high homicide rates as well.
00:32:38.000And he said, well, yeah, but it's certain cities within those red states that are throwing the overall rate up.
00:32:43.000So in a state like Louisiana, it's the city of New Orleans.
00:32:46.000In a place like Missouri, it's the city of St.
00:32:48.000Louis and et cetera, in Ferguson area.
00:33:33.000They know they've lost on all these issues.
00:33:34.000But what they'll do is they'll go into swing states, they'll go into places like Michigan, places like Wisconsin, places like others, and go in and run these ballot operations, early vote harvesting operations, ballot chase operations, Arizona, Georgia.
00:33:47.000Georgia, of course, passed a law changing this, fighting back so at least they have some ability to fight back.
00:33:52.000And just massive shout out to my boy Scott Pressler.
00:34:23.000Scott Pressler, Mike Lindell also there, my boy Mike Lindell, Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, myself, Charlie Kirk, everybody is going to be at this thing and Josh Hawley, JD Vance.
00:34:36.000Uh, Benny Johnson, you know, a million names I can't even think of that are going to be there, but it's specifically on this question.
00:34:42.000It's not just some, you know, oh, rah, rah, look at us, how, you know, we, we love America.
00:34:46.000We're going to hold, you know, kiss the flag, et cetera.
00:34:47.000No, Vivek Ramaswamy will also be there.
00:34:50.000That it's, it's specifically on this question of how we can use these targeted ballot operations to win.
00:34:59.000I see the right actually taking these strategic moves to get into the tactical level on the key states that you need.
00:35:07.000And Charlie Kirk has, and Richard Barris has said this as well, that there are essentially just three states you need.
00:35:12.000You need three states and then you can flip the presidency, flip the presidency, you get the culture back and you're seeing fights like we did in Los Angeles to actually not only win back the school boards, but also push back.
00:35:22.000And I'd love to get into the next story, which is the story that that you were a part of and well, Jack was a part of.
00:35:29.000And we have it from NBCnews.com, and I'd love to hear your recollections on the event, your coverage.
00:35:36.000Catholics and other religious protesters gather at Dodger Stadium on Pride Night.
00:35:41.000The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, whose members dress in drag as nuns, were honored for their work.
00:35:48.000And this is, of course, the NBC version.
00:35:50.000So we'll listen to NBC's story, and then we'll tell the story of what we actually saw.
00:35:54.000with stop anti-catholic hate and god will not be mocked signs protesters surrounded the main entrance to dodger stadium on friday hours before the sisters of perpetual indulgence were to receive an award on lgbt pride night all right i'm gonna have to stop right there because the very first sentence of this is not true it wasn't hours before the sisters of perpetual indulgence uh were to receive the award we swarmed The main entrance while they were receiving the award.
00:37:03.000So inside, while all this is going on, there's the march that takes place, takes up space, blocks the gate.
00:37:11.000The inside at that time is completely empty.
00:37:15.000During the ceremony you could go in and Savannah Hernandez did actually go in to get the footage showing an empty stadium while they received the award and of course the fact checkers are coming out saying well hold on a second people actually went to the game they were able to see the Dodgers play and they played a game against the Giants and lost the entire series by the way.
00:37:32.000To the San Francisco Giants from Northern California.
00:38:08.000I saw a couple of counter-protesters, they were across the street, and you know what's funny?
00:38:13.000Because I was telling you, a couple of rev-coms, but they never crossed the street, and I kept wondering, why aren't they crossing the street?
00:39:03.000So I think it was a beautiful sight because it was the first time that Protestants and
00:39:07.000Catholics were not at each other's neck about who's right about what.
00:39:10.000So it was kind of nice to just be alongside God-fearing people, people who believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ, just going around and finally standing up.
00:39:18.000to what I thought, you know, was a satanic agenda that was happening at the Dodger Stadium with these Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence who openly mock, you know, and blaspheme our Christ.
00:39:29.000But, you know, what's so interesting to me is Christians will—and this is why, again, sometimes like 90, 95% of Christians, conservatives, sit at home, all they do is type online, don't know what the heck they're talking about, never been involved in anything to any capacity, and they just like to just You know, oh, this is stupid, a protest?
00:40:01.000Thousands of, you know, Jack Pasoibic was there.
00:40:04.000He's not here tonight, but it was a great sight to see him.
00:40:07.000And I was just kind of wondering, there's a lot of like other influencers, That go hard in the paint for Christ and just weren't nowhere to be, but we were there, man, you know, and there was like revolutionary communists that were there, you know, talking about there is no Jesus, there's no this, but it was really good to see just this public display of Christians coming out, uniting,
00:41:48.000I mean, there's way more to it than that, but that's the very basic structure.
00:41:51.000So basically, the Archdiocese of Los Angeles came out.
00:41:54.000They were supposed to be leading this.
00:41:56.000I think that thousands more people would have come out had they actually endorsed it.
00:41:59.000But days before the prayer walk, they basically backtracked and said, hey, you know what?
00:42:05.000We're actually not going to endorse any protests.
00:42:07.000We've decided that we're just going to have open dialogue with the Dodgers and any parties involved, meaning the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence.
00:42:16.000But you know, it's weird because I have Christians telling me, well yeah, that was a good call because what's the point of a protest?
00:42:23.000We are meant to be persecuted as Christians.
00:42:25.000The thing I care about is that these same Christians, had it been that they were mocking Jewish rabbis.
00:42:32.000If it was Jewish rabbis that they were making fun of and the ADL put out a statement, we strongly condemn these Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence that dress up as rabbis and are, you know, mocking the Jewish faith.
00:42:43.000Christians would have stumbled over each other's, the Marco Rubios and other, you know, people that are always like standing up for Israel and its allies.
00:42:53.000They would have been like, oh, we stand with the Jewish people and this is not, this is, we Which, by the way, there was a rabbi actually at the event.
00:43:00.000There was Rabbi Michael Barclay from Los Angeles, the LA area, actually spoke at the event right before Jack Posobiec.
00:43:08.000And so, to me, it's mind-blowing to me when Christians justify that it's okay to persecute Christians in Christian America, a country founded on Christianity.
00:43:18.000And that, but if it was Islam, it'd be Islamophobia, and if it were a rabbi, it's anti-Semitism.
00:43:24.000But it's perfectly fine when it's done to Christians.
00:43:27.000And so, to me, I'm like, okay, well, you can't have it both ways.
00:43:30.000Either we can make fun of the Jewish people and the Jewish religion, and we can make fun of Islam people and Muslims, or It can't be that.
00:43:47.000But what I don't understand is why you have Christian legislators, including just recently Governor Ron DeSantis, went out to Israel and signed an anti-Semitic bill out there in Israel and promising Israel, like, hey, we're going to make sure that there's no anti-Semitism in Florida.
00:44:00.000They've extradited three people in three different states, I believe, to Florida under that new anti-Semitism bill.
00:44:06.000But it's like, but why can't we do that for Christians?
00:44:29.000And to your question about the legislation, there are obviously concerns about what constitutes protected speech under the First Amendment, as opposed to what is considered hate speech or hate crime laws, hate speech laws, which we're not going to get into right here, but that's obviously a major concern.
00:44:46.000But also, and Seamus, I want to ask you about this as well, because this call by the archdiocese for dialogue That's a communist tactic.
00:45:09.000Now, I'm not going to sit here and claim I know what the motivations of the Archdiocese were in making this decision, but what I can tell you is that I personally believe it was a very bad decision.
00:45:18.000I think that this is something they should have called for so that people in the area would know that this protest was something that the Church was sanctioning, and there's a lot of conversation in the Catholic Church Today among bishops and priests who consider themselves to be more moderate about trying to unite with and have dialogue with Protestants.
00:45:35.000So it's interesting that at this protest that so many Protestants were attending, it was decided that the church couldn't and even shouldn't endorse it.
00:45:43.000Of course, I think The reason is pretty clear.
00:45:46.000If I were to guess at the motivations, I would say it was simply a case of them being afraid and them not wanting to say anything that would upset the alphabet people, the LGBTQIAAP lobby, or anyone else who's pushing for sexual perversion in this country.
00:45:59.000Because as you know, The dominant prevailing state religion that's been emerging is one which celebrates sexual perversion and unfortunately, as is to be expected just given human history, the history of the church and the way human beings behave, there are people in the church who would like to be accepted by those who would persecute them because they don't want to face the ostracism that would come along with persecution.
00:46:26.000And so they're either willing to bend the knee, or even if they don't bend the knee, they're willing to tell other Christians to stand down, to tell the faithful to stand down, to tell Catholics to stand down, and not adequately combat the evil as it must be.
00:46:47.000Which means to me that there must have been at least double that, because the LA Times has to have been 2,000.
00:46:51.000I saw it on Daily Mail as well, because Daily Mail originally said that there were hundreds of protesters, hit refresh, and then it immediately said top of, and it stayed up all weekend, thousands of protesters.
00:47:02.000So, Seamus, what is this split inside the church then?
00:47:06.000Because is there a split between, you know, The phrase is the laity.
00:47:11.000The laity of the church or members of the laity into the hierarchy, the magisterium, at least in the U.S.
00:47:19.000Not to go too uber into the Catholic weeds here, but it just seems like there's a split between the trads and the moderates.
00:47:25.000Yeah, well, the trads, the modernists, the moderates, there's a lot of different ways of looking at this, and to be honest, I don't consider this to be in any way, shape, or form unprecedented.
00:47:35.000If you look at church history, once the Roman persecution ends, a great deal of Catholic history ends up being the story of good, holy, faithful, lay people being saddled with a corrupt hierarchy that has some good people in it, but who do not follow the Lord as they should and do not lead their flocks as they should.
00:47:58.000And we also see this in the Holy Scriptures.
00:48:01.000I believe as a Catholic that at the Last Supper when Christ established holy orders that Judas was ordained. So this is one of our first examples of a
00:48:09.000priest and a bishop and he betrayed Christ.
00:48:12.000So we should expect to see that there will be Judas's in the church today. And as we've seen
00:48:16.000throughout church history, it has been full of them historically. So when people are unwilling
00:48:22.000to stand up for Christ and when bishops and clerics are unwilling to, which many of them are,
00:48:28.000Lay people, fortunately, historically, have risen to the occasion, even though it has not been all of them.
00:48:34.000And it's what we should expect to see not only among the hierarchy, but among the laity, right?
00:48:40.000Because many seek to enter and few Do how many people truly take their faith seriously?
00:48:45.000How many people are truly trying to get closer to Christ and enter the kingdom of heaven?
00:48:50.000Surely it's a minority and I believe that the scriptures make that clear.
00:48:54.000I'll also add that it is not something disobedient or offensive or even subversive for a Catholic to say that there are many in the hierarchy who are bad.
00:49:04.000The venerable Archbishop Fulton Sheen said that he believed that the laity were going to save the church.
00:49:10.000And it's because, again, we've seen it repeatedly with the hierarchy abdicating.
00:49:14.000It is why it was once said that the road to hell is paved with the bones of priests and the skulls of bishops or the lampposts that light the way.
00:49:22.000You know, there's actually a book that actually talks about this, too, by Dr. Taylor Marshall.
00:49:26.000It's not a plug or nothing like that, but he talks about the infiltration of the church, how it's been going on for over a hundred years now.
00:49:32.000And it's really good because it basically talks, and there's actually a written testimony by Dr. Bella Dodd, who in the 1930s, 1920s, She was head of the Communist Party of New York and she instilled 1,100 communist agents into the highest ranking positions of the Catholic Church because she went on to say that communists knew that the only enemy that they feared, it wasn't the Jews and it wasn't Muslims, it was the Christian Church, the Catholic Church more specifically.
00:49:58.000And they knew that, hey, you know what we've done for thousands of years?
00:50:01.000We fought the Catholics Sword and shield, and we continue to fail, and we continue to get crusaded again.
00:50:08.000We're going to go ahead and infiltrate.
00:50:10.000And that's why I think, you know, no disrespect to the Catholic Archdiocese out of Los Angeles, what you are seeing now is the reaping of the benefits.
00:50:18.000And this is why I say people need to plant your banner and fight back, because you know who doesn't flee?
00:50:52.000I'm in safe, blue California where abortion is legal up to nine months, on demand basically.
00:50:58.000And I talked to some of the communists there and I said, comrade, you know, or not really, I went up to people and I said, why are you protesting here in Los Angeles where here it's completely legal?
00:51:08.000And they said, because we stand in solidarity with our brothers and sisters in other states Christians have never done... I can't think of a single... I can't think of a single moment in time in my lifetime where Christians in 45 states have mobilized for anything.
00:51:33.000You see it across Western churches where they believe there's this idea of... Spoiled, decadent, lazy, lukewarm.
00:51:39.000You know, and it's, it's, you are lukewarm and I spit you out because you are neither hot nor cold.
00:51:43.000And it's this idea that, you know, if you just sit down, if you buckle down, you read your Bible every day, you go to church, you go to church, you have your, your personal connection, but you don't do anything actually in the real world.
00:52:22.000This church, the centralization of authority is what concerns me when it comes to the Catholic, any kind of church, any kind of tech company.
00:52:29.000It's a vulnerability that the top of this chain can make a decision and say, we're going to say no, we're going to justify that instead of not justified.
00:52:39.000But the reality is your relationship with God bypasses any organization.
00:52:43.000And when people are moved by that, I think you see them go out and then they inspire other people to go out and move with it.
00:52:50.000Well, as a Protestant, I know very well about what you're talking about, about doubting the hierarchy within the church.
00:52:57.000So, I mean, I'd have a couple things to say about that, and though I disagree, I think there's a good instinct there, and it's actually part of why I'm Catholic.
00:53:06.000So, I think that there is a kind of vulnerability that comes along with centralization.
00:53:14.000And this is a Chestertonian argument, but it's one that I actually do find persuasive, cheeky as it might sound, and that is, I don't know how any organization as corrupt as the Catholic Church could last for 2,000 years unless God wanted it to.
00:53:27.000There have been so many horrible people in the Church who have done so many destructive things, and yet it's been around because as Christ promised us, the gates of hell will not prevail against His Church.
00:54:26.000What you're actually getting to, and I don't want to, we have a lot of other spoilers I want to get to, but what you're actually getting at is one of the reasons that the original, what you might call hierarchy, but was actually the original organization of the church came about was because you would have in the ancient world these various, and we see this today as well by the way, you would have these various people that say oh I spoke to God and God told me this and you guys might be reading uh this writing of the gospel you might be reading this writing but God told me this and so you have to add this part on and now actually follow me and my version of it which is totally different from their version and so you would have these competing versions of
00:55:04.000Christianity, some which were in line with the original teachings, some which went very far astray.
00:55:10.000You even had things like various heresies, the Gnostics, you had the Aryan heresy, you had so many different things going on at the time of people who claimed that they were in direct communication with God because of a personal relationship.
00:55:25.000And so this is what led to the original Various ecumenical councils led to the various creeds, etc, etc.
00:55:33.000This is just basic church history that of people getting together because of this very issue of saying, well, wait a minute, you know, I just, you, you say three things at church, but then I went to this guy and he's had five other things.
00:56:11.000Yeah, can I just speak to the point of pride really quickly?
00:56:13.000Not even just from a religious standpoint, but I think there's something interesting where we talk about pride, we talk about American pride, and what we're referring to is patriotism.
00:56:22.000And I don't think we need to use the word pride to describe it, because I agree with you, pride is sinful, it's bad.
00:56:28.000I think usually when someone says they're proud to be an American, they're just saying that they're patriotic.
00:56:35.000Lewis said, which I really appreciate and I really find to be brilliant, is that pride takes enjoyment not in having things, but in having more than others.
00:56:44.000So, if someone's proud of their wealth, their wealth doesn't give them joy because they have wealth.
00:56:48.000Their wealth gives them joy because they have more of it than someone else.
00:56:52.000And so, when you're proud, as soon as somebody has more than you or as much as you, they become your enemy.
00:56:58.000Because you hate them for having as much or more than you.
00:57:00.000They've taken the thing that matters to you, which is being above.
00:57:02.000And that's the question of pride that we're seeing now with Pride Month in the U.S., where is it we are proud of our group, or are we flaunting our superiority?
00:57:22.000But at the same time, if you're saying my group is better than your group within this, That's what creates problems, and that's what creates friction.
00:57:29.000And then the question is, would you be less happy with a country that does the things right that America does if there were other nations even better than it?
00:57:36.000That's where you sort of get into this question of pride.
00:57:38.000Like, do I like this because of how well-run things still are in certain areas?
00:58:09.000But that shows for you, and I think that shows for you, your pride and your national identity doesn't come from this diabolical place of, I have to be better than others, it comes from a place of, I appreciate these principles, because you're happy seeing others embody those principles, and you're not going, oh, I'm better than them, so I should be the only one doing it.
00:59:09.000I don't even know if the video is still up, but I just saw that Luke tweeted it out that he reposted a clip of RFK talking with Rogan, I imagine, from that show.
00:59:58.000Hundreds of thousands of dollars, I think it's up to 1.2 million the last time I checked, of money that would be donated to charity.
01:00:05.000By the way, if Peter Hotez, MD, PhD, were willing to go on to Joe Rogan and debate with him about, with RFK, about the, about vaccines, about the use of vaccines, vaccine mandates, mRNA vaccines, all of these different things, because they've both been on Joe Rogan, And now this isn't like he has to go on and win the debate.
01:00:26.000This is just, if you are willing to do this, all of this money will be donated to the charity of your choice.
01:00:33.000And then, of course, he's saying, I won't do this.
01:01:23.000Yeah, so what I would say is that dialogue or conversation with non-experts is not a way to reach a clear conclusion on any medical question, but that's not what's being discussed here.
01:01:38.000What is being asked is whether he can justify telling all of the American people that they have to, and in many instances should be required to, either by law or mandate from their employer, to get this particular medical treatment okay so there's a difference there's a difference between saying the medical process should be determined based on a single public conversation between a doctor and somebody who isn't a doctor and saying well if the medical science is as clear as they're claiming
01:02:15.000And all of our concerns about people who were scientists and who were doctors being pushed out of the establishment and silenced for their views can be nullified and aren't actual concerns, then should this man who advocates For the use of this particular medical treatment, be able to explain to the American people with an adversary in the room that this treatment is worthwhile.
01:02:42.000I would argue yes, and I would argue that while not everyone is skilled at debating, and therefore not going to be equally capable of promoting a message, even if it's truthful, if he's not talented in this area or rhetorically gifted enough or quick enough on his feet to engage in that kind of a conversation, what he should do is find somebody who is capable of defending the position, and then that person should go on Joe Rogan and make RFK look like a fool, and then have well over a million dollars donated to a charity of this man's choice, and also convince a large vaccine-skeptical segment of the population that they should get the jab.
01:03:40.000At the same time, if someone offered me over a million dollars to a charity of my choice to have a conversation about something I'm an expert on with someone who I claim is a crackpot conspiracy theorist, I cannot imagine a rationalization for turning that down.
01:03:57.000There are conversations that I think are genuinely damaging.
01:04:01.000So if someone is promoting a new idea that the culture is already completely against, and you could be giving legitimacy to that idea by debating them.
01:04:10.000So for example, if someone were saying that we should have a public dialogue about the acceptance of pedophilia, I would be unwilling to engage in that kind of conversation because the public is already against that, and having a conversation about it could give legitimacy to that idea.
01:04:30.000Well, I think I also think we're hitting moral bedrock there, where it's just fundamentally
01:04:34.000obvious why this thing is disgusting, and you shouldn't give voice to any opposition
01:04:39.000who would say that something like that is morally acceptable.
01:04:43.000These vaccines, in this particular kind of vaccine, is something that has been pushed onto the American people, which the American people have not wholeheartedly accepted at this point.
01:04:52.000So the burden of proof is actually on the person introducing the new idea to have conversation about it.
01:04:59.000And one last thing I'll say about this is All of the arguments that are being made about the concerns that the medical establishment has about making conspiracy theories seem legitimate by having conversations and debates defending their viewpoint are arguments that they would have made about defending
01:05:22.000The wet market hypothesis three years ago, and we know how that turned out.
01:05:28.000So these people don't have the scientific or moral authority that they have claimed that they have.
01:05:32.000This isn't a situation where we should all sit down and shut up because they've been right about everything.
01:05:37.000They've been proven wrong, and with a track record like their, it is completely and abundantly reasonable for the American people to ask for a little bit of transparency and have one of these people have a public conversation about what they're promoting the American people with one adversary in the room to be able to give them some pushback.
01:05:52.000I was just thinking about the companies that make vaccines and other medicines and how when you're a corporation you have a duty to your stockholders to make money so that there's already a thing of like, don't make us sell less because we'll lose money so we have to, like, why is there a profit motive in the medical industry?
01:07:18.000Which people were kind of writing off at first.
01:07:19.000They're like, oh yeah, this never happened.
01:07:21.000Because he took to the tweet and he's like, oh, by the way, I was just harassed at my house.
01:07:25.000And I think like a couple of conservatives like hopped on like, oh yeah, just like Jussie Smollett, you know, like, or Jussie Smollett, like, like he was attacked.
01:07:32.000And then there was like video evidence that it actually did happen.
01:07:35.000And then what- Yeah, wait before we jump on these stories, guys.
01:07:38.000Wait, wait before you call somebody a faker.
01:07:42.000One thing I love about the right is that the goalposts always shift for us.
01:07:46.000And by the way, I know I'm kind of crapping a lot on Conservatives today just because somebody said, oh, that Hispanic guy is probably a rhino, which is actually accurate.
01:07:55.000I'm a Republican in Ilm only because there is no political movement right now that actually truly represents and harnesses my outward anger toward the government.
01:08:57.000To me, it's like, bro, why censor any of this?
01:09:00.000This is why I love Turning Point and I love a lot of the conservative right, but it's like we self-censor people that we consider too radical.
01:09:07.000I understand a lot of it has to do with donors and public image and we don't want to be associated with some people, but it's like, dude, if you're right, then just go ahead and make the argument for it.
01:09:19.000You know, like again, and this is why it kind of like, uh, irks me when it's like, we claim to be like, Oh, we're all about free speech.
01:09:49.000I think that showing certain lifestyles or bad behavior can actually normalize it, though I think we're probably going to have to agree to disagree on that point if we're having a broader conversation about whether this debate should happen.
01:09:59.000My main point here is that even with the framework that you can argue, like, an expert shouldn't be having a conversation with a non-expert about this, or there are some ideas so heinous that it would be wrong to discuss them or debate them publicly, this certainly doesn't fall into that category.
01:10:14.000And I'll also add this, hold on, I will also say here that what is being posited here is a non-medical expert having a debate on a podcast with a doctor.
01:10:29.000Interestingly enough, I actually think that would debatably make it more of a layup for the other side.
01:11:53.000But people were arguably asking him, if we're fighting the culture war and we're against LGBTism because we're conservatives or we're Christians, then why are you going around with Rob Smith?
01:12:04.000What does that do to help fight the culture war?
01:12:24.000And I've never seen Rob Smith or Charlie Kirk ever do that.
01:12:27.000I never said that Charlie Kirk was going around with Rob Smith and promoting LGBT.
01:12:33.000You deliberately conflated both of that.
01:12:35.000No, what I am saying is, if we have the open debates, people can show up and make the counter-argument and be like, hey, this is wrong, we don't believe in this.
01:12:45.000Rob Smith is no longer as far as I'm concerned.
01:12:46.000But did you just say that Turning Point shouldn't deny people the right to come speak at events, and now you're saying that Charlie Kirk shouldn't be on stage with somebody?
01:12:53.000No, what I'm saying is- You literally just said that.
01:12:56.000If Charlie Kirk professes to be a Christian man and he is a conservative, what business does he have with an openly homosexual man going around campuses?
01:13:03.000Why can't he find another Christian conservative to go around and push the same point?
01:13:07.000Look, I'll be very honest with you, I don't follow Rob Smith.
01:13:20.000I was getting to the argument about having open debate.
01:13:22.000People went out to Charlie Kirk and said, hey, if we're fighting the culture war and we're pushing back against this, then why are you out here with Rob Smith, who is openly for it and goes to his social medias?
01:13:36.000I mean, it was kind of like the whole Dave Rubin thing, right?
01:13:38.000We're pushing against transgenderism and all that stuff, but like Blair White, right?
01:14:10.000They all have their own audience or whatever it is.
01:14:13.000And what I'm saying is, it took Catholic people to come up to Charlie Kirk and say, look, if we're supposed to be a Christian conservative group and we're trying to fight the culture war, especially with the rise in LGBTism at the corporate level, then why are we doing the same thing?
01:14:31.000I think it's because Socially, we're just moving leftward, both on the conservative side and on the liberal side.
01:14:37.000It's because most of the religious movement that's pushing back against the political movement of, I guess you'd say LGBTQIA+, political movement, not the people themselves, it never had any animosity towards the sexuality itself.
01:14:49.000There are very traditional religious sects that do, but the broader Christian movement is more concerned with the indoctrination of children, whether they're gay, straight, trans, Christians, whatever.
01:15:01.000And I think It's okay, it's okay for religions to ebb and flow and change over time, so... But the word of God is forever though, man.
01:15:09.000You know, like, I agree that there's a lot of Christians that say, well, you know, it's about the kids.
01:15:30.000And again, look, Roe v. Wade got overturned.
01:15:33.00045 states went out and said, hey, we need Roe v. Wade back.
01:15:37.000When same-sex marriage happened, there was not a single state that went out there as Christians or as a church and said, we need to unite all 45 states and fight against same-sex marriage.
01:15:56.000I'm thinking about shawarma because we're talking about the Armenian parents.
01:15:59.000But look, at the core, when people like, and I feel like we tiptoe a lot around this, like Christian conservatives were like, well, maybe if we just focus on the kid part, maybe we can just leave it all out.
01:16:08.000It's like, no, dude, Caitlyn Jenner, bad.
01:16:16.000And you guys, case in point, my son in a locker room with two trans kids, the first thing I told him, you don't go ill, you don't say I hate you, and you don't... they're human beings at the end of the day.
01:16:28.000Because that's what Christians are taught, right?
01:16:36.000But, you know, that was my argument about that because if you allow for the open debate and the open to have people there, then people will push back eventually.
01:16:58.000Let's give Seamus, you've thrown out a lot.
01:17:02.000Seamus, I'd love to hear your response to really this question, I guess, of association.
01:17:07.000Should the conservative movement associate, which is really what your point is there, the conservative movement, the populist movement, whatever you want to call this, associate with individuals like that because there may be certain Lifestyle choices that the Christians and conservatives disagree with does associating with these people Degrade the the Christian message and are there times?
01:17:36.000Obviously in any coalition there's going to be friction are there times when there's friction between the Christian message and the conservative best the conservative movement That's a great question.
01:17:44.000And there's a whole lot to get into with the answer.
01:17:46.000I'm going to give there I want to say firstly When you're examining whether it makes sense to have somebody as an advocate for your movement, one question that you need to ask is, what is this person publicly promoting in other forums?
01:17:59.000Also, how socially accepted is the thing that they're promoting, and is our working with them going to aid them in their activism for pushing for things which we know are bad?
01:18:11.000And then there's also the question of, What are we working towards with this person?
01:18:17.000Is there an expectation being created that I am now on the side of the perverse things they're promoting or am interested in working with them on those things?
01:18:29.000So when it comes to a lot of people on the right who are saying, you know, I'm openly homosexual or I'm transgender and I have no
01:18:37.000plans of stopping being either of those things, but I'm on the right and I agree with
01:18:43.000I think that if you have to work with someone to accomplish a certain goal and they're not
01:18:48.000promoting the bad things that they're doing, that's one question.
01:18:53.000But then you have to ask yourself another question, which is, am I only trying to find
01:18:57.000someone from a marginalized identity group to say these things for me because I am too
01:19:02.000cowardly to simply say as a straight male who does not struggle with any kind of sexual
01:19:09.000perversion that would push him away from being interested in women, that perversion is perversion,
01:19:14.000that evil is evil, that you can't harm children, that Democrats are trying to destroy this
01:19:18.000country and many Republicans are collaborating with them.
01:19:21.000And that's a massive question that I think a lot of conservatives need to start to confront themselves with.
01:19:25.000When you have these YouTubers who promote a perverse lifestyle to their audience members, but they also say conservative things, are you promoting that person's work because you genuinely think the angle they have on this is so unique and valuable to our movement that it Nullifies any concerns we might have about what they're promoting to a young audience?
01:19:46.000Or are you just too scared to state your opinions without feeling that you need to use a gender or sexual or even any other person who'd be considered marginalized or a gender or sexual minority to make your case for you because you're too scared?
01:20:04.000Right, so what you're talking about is tokenism, right?
01:20:22.000He's someone who's out there in the trenches, state after state, campaign after campaign, every single day for the last, I think, eight years since I've known him, campaigning for Republican candidates.
01:20:33.000I've never once heard him say a thing about his personal sexuality or combined the two into politics or, by the way, tried to use that as some sort of, you know, shield against criticism.
01:20:46.000That being said, the man is an absolutely effective operator and a passionate, hashtag, the persistence fighter for the movement on that cause.
01:20:55.000And so to write him off and say, no, you can't associate with this, I don't think that's the right move.
01:21:01.000Same with Rob Smith, same with a number of people.
01:21:04.000The question is, what are they promoting, right?
01:21:05.000What are they promoting outside of the thing that you agree on?
01:21:08.000I guess that's a huge part of my point.
01:21:12.000Oh, I was thinking about Blair White, who we've had on the show multiple times, and we reflected after the first episode, like, wow, we didn't even bring up trans at all.
01:21:19.000We were just hanging out with Blair, man.
01:21:25.000We just did a clean-up about a month ago, but because he stays focused on the political, and I'm not saying that you can't have people, you know, come on.
01:21:32.000For example, I think of anything the way I do a church.
01:21:36.000Would you ever appoint anyone that is LGBT as part of head of the church?
01:21:40.000What do you mean by head of the church?
01:21:41.000Like, at any position, like a deacon, or as a bishop, as a cardinal.
01:21:45.000Yeah, so in the Catholic Church, they're not supposed to ordain you a priest if you're homosexual.
01:21:58.000So, to me, I take that standard and I apply it to everything in life.
01:22:02.000If you wouldn't apply it to church, why are we doing it to Christian conservative organizations?
01:22:06.000Now, I'm not saying they cannot work, right?
01:22:08.000We just had the whole debate with The Chosen, where they had an LGBT flag on set and now people are canceling The Chosen.
01:22:15.000This is not... And I think Candace Owens, I think poorly, you know, again, massive respect for everything she does.
01:22:21.000I'm not here, you know, I'm not like on this rampage or crusade to go after anyone.
01:22:25.000I respect all these people because they're pioneers and they've built something way more than I could probably achieve.
01:22:31.000I don't know what God has planned for me yet.
01:22:32.000You know, I'm pretty young, I'd like to say, but I don't know what he has planned for me yet.
01:22:36.000But what I will say is that she kind of downplayed it as like, look, we have to hire these people.
01:22:42.000The first thing that I thought about was Project Veritas.
01:22:46.000Project Veritas, before the whole James O'Keefe fallout, they had a liberal principal or like some kind of superintendent that said, oh, there's ways for us to find out how to get rid of conservatives during the hiring process.
01:22:59.000And once again, we prove that liberals are willing to go above and beyond to make sure that they hire the right people.
01:23:08.000Conservatives, we're willing to use tokens.
01:23:11.000We're willing to say, like, well, you know what?
01:23:13.000I would never say this, but if we just hire this person, they can say it for us.
01:23:17.000And then we can just say, like, oh, well, you know what?
01:23:20.000We can't really discriminate against these people.
01:24:30.000We're up against people who have massive resources in terms of money, massive resources in terms of influence.
01:24:37.000And we have individuals doing this by themselves, people doing this independently.
01:24:41.000It would be so much easier to just go along with whatever the narrative of the day is.
01:24:45.000Just go along, go along with funding Ukraine, go along with vaccines, go along with like the entire agenda, go along with all of these things.
01:24:52.000And so when you are in A time-limited situation.
01:25:03.000I will come with you and I'll fight with you.
01:25:05.000We may not agree on 100% of the things.
01:25:06.000We may not agree with 100% of the issues.
01:25:08.000But I agree with you now and I will be with you in this fight.
01:25:12.000And that I will look to my left and look to my right and who's with me in the foxhole and I will see who's there.
01:25:16.000And if that person is with me, then I'm gonna fight with that person.
01:25:19.000Because I don't have the luxury of being able to litmus test On this, but we're going to talk about another case that's going on right now.
01:25:26.000It's a completely separate thing, but a separate, separate gear.
01:25:31.000Look, we've all been talking about it.
01:25:42.000They're possibly, we don't know if they're still alive.
01:25:44.000We have no idea if they're alive right now.
01:25:46.000Everyone that I know is talking about this situation right now.
01:25:50.000But you know what's interesting, and Seamus, you and I were talking before we got on air about this, there are people who are rooting for them to die.
01:25:57.000There are people who are rooting for the ocean in this situation.
01:26:01.000And look, I'm gonna be honest, I'll say this with, you know, I don't wear the beanie right now, but with my former- You have a friend named Jack who- I have a friend named Pozo who's a former Navy officer.
01:26:44.000As far as we know, there's no way any human can survive at that depth and certainly not at that pressure.
01:26:49.000You'd be killed instantly, basically, if there was a whole breach.
01:26:54.000That being said, even if there wasn't, to be able to find this thing, get submersibles down there, you just don't have enough time, you don't have enough air.
01:27:02.000But what is going on where there are people who say, well, these guys are rich, you know what, they get what they deserve.
01:27:08.000And I think we talked about it before, and Serge, you had the point as well.
01:27:11.000We're always told that, oh, we don't hate the rich, we just love the poor so much.
01:27:17.000They're exploiting the poor, we just love the poor.
01:27:20.000Because you can go and look up, I think it's called the Titan, you can look up the Titan, type it in Twitter right now, and you will see people arguing And cheering, celebrating the fact that they want these people to die.
01:27:32.000And getting thousands of likes and retweets.
01:28:06.000I saw a tweet from an account called Good Tweetman and what he said was, All of the people who are saying they hope these people died and rooting for them having a horrible death are the same people who say, um, I just want everyone to have healthcare.
01:29:14.000So, anyone who makes a claim like this, anyone who says that it's good that these people died, they've lost the moral high ground, but to be fair, most of them lost the moral high ground long ago, and their worldview is about hatred, anger, and I'll leave you with this.
01:29:31.000Most of the time, when people are calling for equality, what they're actually calling for is a celebration of themselves and their own aggrandizement.
01:29:40.000Because it's very rare that somebody who's calling for equality is actually doing the work to help people who are beneath them in terms of wealth or social status.
01:29:48.000They're almost always looking to the people who are higher than them and saying, it is criminal that I'm not on their level, that they occupy a higher position than me.
01:29:56.000Everything that we were saying about pride earlier, these are prideful people who are saying, any system that doesn't place me at the top is one which is fundamentally corrupt, and so I will celebrate when people who are above me die.
01:30:44.000It was going to take them two hours to get down, and at forty-five minutes—I thought it was an hour and a half, so as you said— Is it only two hours to get down?
01:31:13.000I don't know if they're hooked on the Titanic somewhere, if they're caught in algae, if they're on a net, if they got washed away and they're stuck under a rock somewhere seven miles away.
01:31:22.000You know, they could actually be inside the Titanic because there was a story that someone else, this is not the first voyage of this sub, and there was a guy who said that when they went down the last time, they actually essentially landed on the deck of the Titanic.
01:31:37.000Look, this thing's been down there for a hundred years.
01:31:39.000If you're trying to land on the deck of something under that pressure, you know, the Titanic wasn't designed to operate at that pressure.
01:31:50.000There's a, it's a kind of black humor, but saying it now, but there's a, there's a line in the, in the Navy that every ship can be a submarine once.
01:31:56.000It's kind of like how the Ukrainians found out that any, any vehicle can be a minesweeper once in the current counter offensive.
01:32:05.000But they could have been attempting another one of these landings to say, hey, we're on the deck of the Titanic, and then believe it or not, we could actually be seeing an increase in the death toll of the Titanic itself.
01:32:19.000But then the question is, if that's...
01:33:04.000You can't just fly something out and drop it in.
01:33:06.000Typically you need a ship tender for one of these things.
01:33:08.000So you need another ship that needs to be prepared.
01:33:10.000Then that ship has to go out at ship speed.
01:33:13.000So you're talking about 10 hours, 12 hours, just to get on station once you've got the remote operated vessel That's their railroad vehicle that's on station.
01:33:22.000So, I mean, you're fighting against the clock the entire time.
01:33:45.000Logitech stock took a hit, I was reading today.
01:33:48.000Well, as soon as I heard about this story, my conspiracy hat came back on, and I was like, dude, the Titanic is still taking down billionaires.
01:33:55.000Because I'm sure you guys have probably heard that people on the Titanic initially were like bankers that didn't want to do the Federal Reserve.
01:34:04.000And then that's where, you know, Jekyll Island and the bankers there, and then that's when they started the Federal Reserve and all that stuff.
01:34:11.000That's why my conspiracy... By the way, by the way, I just saw on Daily Mail, real quick, on Daily Mail that I saw one of the members of the current crew, the Titanic Five that's on there right now, are actually descendants of people who died on the original Titanic.
01:34:37.000They're going to explore the site of where a family member died, and now they very well may die, and, you know, people on the left think that's wonderful.
01:35:13.000I mean, would this just have been a problem with the submersible itself, or are there currents that could come sweep you away very quickly?
01:35:23.000It's honestly all of the above, because in this thing, which appears to be somewhat slapped together, if you've watched any of the videos, if you've got a rapid depressurization, if you've got a hole breach, if you've got any issues with that, I mean, it lights out very, very quickly.
01:35:39.000For the record, from USA Today, they lost contact about an hour and 45 minutes.
01:36:07.000So your whales, you're talking maybe, that's your deep sea fish environment.
01:36:13.000Obviously there's questions about giant squid, but typically you're not finding much And I think Judge Janine actually talked on it today on Fox.
01:36:25.000I think she was talking about it where I guess the reason why there's so many people like there's an uptick on people visiting the Titanic because I guess they're giving it like another 10 years before it completely just disappears, like due to corrosion or whatever it might be.
01:36:39.000So they're talking about how there's going to be like, I don't know, maybe it was, they're
01:36:44.000trying to pump out as much money doing this because what is it like 250,000 per ticket?
01:37:00.000But I wonder what this is going to do now.
01:37:02.000People are going to be like, dude, I don't want to get lost down there because my PlayStation controller disconnected.
01:37:07.000If anything positive ever were to come out of this, it could be the understanding of the risk involved with taking one of these submersibles down under that deep.
01:37:15.000Yeah, look, and I actually I had the opportunity to do a ride along in a Navy sub once out of out of Kings Bay, Georgia.
01:37:22.000And when you're down and this is this is something that I think people like you they watch movies like, you know, the Little Mermaid, you know, you know, why don't they send the Ariel?
01:37:36.000And, you know, it's not like that down there.
01:37:39.000You go down below the thermocline, you go down below… sunlight can only get so far, right?
01:37:47.000So you eventually get to a point where the thickness of the salt blocks light from coming down, the air changes, etc.
01:37:53.000And so, uh, you know, they say, are there portholes on the sub?
01:37:56.000Well, no, cause you can't see anything.
01:37:59.000And then even with a super bright, you know, Halcon lights, et cetera, that halogen lights, you're not going to see much further than like your hand in front of your face.
01:38:08.000That's outside of the sub because of the salt density, the light doesn't.
01:38:44.000Obviously, the construction of such a craft has to be done in an unbelievably cautious way with every single detail paid close attention to, and it's possible that this is a case of that not having been done.
01:38:57.000You know, Tim, you mentioned that it looked a little bit slapped together.
01:39:00.000On the other hand, I don't know, maybe this thing was perfectly well-constructed and something came out of the way and hit it.
01:39:05.000I'm curious if you have any more expertise on that.
01:39:07.000Like, how frequently does this kind of thing happen with a craft which is well-made?
01:39:12.000I mean, not necessarily hit it, but was swept away by a current or something else happened.
01:39:15.000I guess my question is, how often does it happen where a well-made, sturdy craft that was constructed safely disappears underwater like this?
01:39:28.000That being said, many subs are, in general, they're viewed as kind of death traps by a lot of people in the Navy.
01:39:34.000I don't know too many Navy guys that have submarine experience or even Navy divers that would do this on a regular basis without something that was very well taken care of.
01:39:43.000That being said, even Navy SEALs, others, they just don't They're not, they're not doing stuff like this for fun.
01:39:48.000They're using, and they're operating at much shallower depth than this.
01:39:52.000But we are getting to the last 20 minutes, so I don't want to deny the super chats that are in here.
01:39:59.000By the way, I do see one of the users, I'm not going to say it, but someone actually knows the Navy units that Poso was a member, or deployed in at one point, actually two points, in a sense, when he was in the, when he was in the Navy.
01:40:44.000Look, uh, you know, we, we talk about China and we say, Oh, China, 10 years ago, we'd say, can you believe China's banning people from the internet?
01:40:52.000Can you believe China's locking up people because of what they said on the internet?
01:41:33.000In times of war, it's rule or be ruled.
01:41:35.000Everyone believes in something, whether it's religion, God, government, whatever it is.
01:41:40.000Those that believe their ideas are better than yours are going to fight tooth and nail to impose those authorities over you, as we have clearly seen in the last three years.
01:41:49.000Authority can only be fought with authority man, you know, and and I was a libertarian 2019 2018. I'm like, yeah sure
01:43:20.000Pozo, the affordable and healthy way to not only get the best night's sleep in the whole wide world, but also increase your testosterone over time as you increase your sleep.
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01:45:55.000I said, Look, this is the kind of conversation that's going to get us into the YouTube red zone pretty quick.
01:46:00.000So you need to be a member in order to sign up, in order to listen.
01:46:03.000And oh, by the way, if you've been a member for six months, if you have that $25 tier and additionally, you can then call in and we're going to be taking calls as well.
01:46:13.000I also want to mention this with Biden's comments.
01:46:15.000He said that the Second Amendment does not protect your right to own a cannon, or did not protect the right to own a cannon.
01:46:24.000There was a merchant who wrote a letter to one of the founders asking if it was legal for him to have cannons on his private ship, and they said yes.
01:46:30.000Which was something that happened at that time.
01:46:32.000In fact, the original United States Navy was essentially just Privateers who had merchant ships that had cannons in order to defend themselves against the Navy, against piracy, etc, etc.
01:46:44.000They were sort of, they were basically drafted into service, but they were still privately owned vessels.
01:46:50.000And the idea being that after the war, they would go back to being privately owned vessels.
01:47:39.000I feel like He's putting me on the front lines.
01:47:41.000Eventually, what I want to do, and I was talking to you guys about this, I want to do something similar to this, but in Los Angeles, so that we can have that charming young man, Jack Pasoibic, from Human Events, come on over to Los Angeles, and after, like, a prayer walk, we can go ahead and talk to some folks, you know?
01:47:57.000We need this, not just in areas like this, or Texas, or red states, we need this in deep blue states, so that we can also have candidates on, and we can talk local politics, and we can tell people what you can do to get active.
01:48:08.000Maybe if Seamus isn't busy sleeping under my pillow, he'll actually show up this time.
01:48:12.000Listen, I had other commitments I made in, you know, as the Spanish would say, a woman who prays all day but burns the soup may be half an angel, but she's half a devil too.
01:48:57.000Why would I leave nice beaches for like a complete flatlands?
01:49:02.000What do you, what do you think about the, what do you think about the idea of potentially splitting California up?
01:49:08.000What would you, what would you say about that?
01:49:09.000Well, here's the thing, like if you look at a map of California, so first and foremost, I know I talk about deep blue, but only because I'm in Los Angeles area, there's no such thing as blue states.
01:49:18.000There are all red states and we have blue areas in those areas.
01:50:50.000I guess I have to look into that a bit more deeply.
01:50:53.000My understanding is that the president of the United States has the authority to declassify these kinds of documents.
01:50:59.000And we know that Biden had documents stored, which he obtained as vice president during his time in the Senate.
01:51:05.000So Even if you want to argue that Trump was doing something nefarious, the reality is what Biden did was clearly worse because he actually didn't have any executive authority to do so.
01:51:16.000So if Trump is up to something sketchy, it looks to me like it's something sketchy that he did legally, but it's also possible.
01:51:25.000I haven't looked into this deeply enough, so I'm happy to look at those transcripts and I will be happy to come back on air and let you know if I think I was I don't know if I was wrong about that, but you know, I'll turn it over to you, Tim.
01:51:34.000Well, so Brett Baird asked Trump about this in his response and Brit Hume said, and this was so funny because Brit Hume goes, oh, his response was incomprehensible and incoherent.
01:51:46.000And I said, okay, well, let me listen to it.
01:51:47.000And I go and look and he said, well, the reason that he said, number one, they were the documents that Trump said that the documents he was talking about in that were magazine clippings Newspaper clippings that he was holding and waving up because you can apparently on this transcript of the tape which they won't release right which is like already kind of you know quite like that's a little sketchy to begin with that you're you're indicting a guy based on a tape that we can't listen to that you claim to have heard and yet we aren't allowed to hear it but you tell us that you have a transcript
01:52:18.000Because how many times has it happened before with the DOJ the government will come out with some claim and then defense lawyers get to it and they hack away at it and they hack away at it and then eventually we get information that says oh wait a minute and and Trump is saying here he's already making the claim and you can argue whether or not that it's a good idea to do this but he's litigating this before it gets to a court of law he's going on national tv and he's made that decision which is right as an American obviously to defend yourself in public before you get to the courtroom Every lawyer will tell you not to do that, but at the same time, you know, those lawyers never became a billionaire in the president of the United States.
01:52:51.000And so for him to say, look, these were newspaper clippings, magazine clippings, why didn't I give the boxes back?
01:52:55.000Because I had personal records in there, personal records that they didn't have.
01:52:59.000The right to have back because they said he had closed in there other things again when you look at those boxes and we talked about this already those were boxes that were just him packing up his office right so everything that you have in an office there's some of your stuff there's personal stuff there's mementos gifts that people give you that doesn't necessarily mean that everything in those boxes fell under this and so the idea is that he should have just oh why didn't you turn them all over because well why should he those are his Yeah, well, I'd also like to revise what I said to some extent because I get the feeling after having said all of that that it's probably unsatisfactory to the caller because I invoked what Joe Biden did when he was simply asking me to acknowledge the wrongdoing with what Trump did.
01:53:38.000So what I'll say is, even striking all of that, If Trump did break the law here, then of course that was wrong.
01:53:46.000And your point is that something really bad could have happened here and we should acknowledge that it's bad.
01:53:51.000Well, it would have been really bad if he had colluded with the Russian government to subvert American democracy as well.
01:53:57.000But we now know that claim was totally bogus.
01:53:59.000So I don't know why I should trust the same point on the same day that the Durham report And the Durham hearing is going on telling us that the government lied, that the same department of the same government lied for all these years.
01:54:10.000We should just turn around and accept everything they say at face value.
01:54:14.000So I'm saying, I think they have an extremely high burden of proof.
01:54:17.000I would even say an extraordinarily high burden of proof because when they've gone after him in the past, they've turned out to be completely wrong despite making extremely confident claims about their certainty that he had broken the law and that they were going to arrest him.
01:54:31.000And so I would say that I am inclined to not believe any of what they're saying, and I'm going to need to see really extremely strong evidence, an absolute smoking gun.
01:54:42.000I'm going to need to see that he was caught red-handed doing something illegal or nefarious here in order to believe that that's actually what took place.
01:54:50.000We also have another $50 chat in Amos Moses.
01:55:28.000I do think that smoking crack disqualifies one from firearm ownership, and part of the reason I will say that is because what the founders said and what they understood is that in order for the Constitution to be an even remotely sustainable framework for governing a population, they have to be a virtuous population.
01:55:47.000So, the idea that we can trust everyone to own firearms does make sense when no one's smoking crack, okay?
01:55:56.000But when you have crackheads running around, you either have to say, oh, we don't have a population that's virtuous enough to own guns responsibly, or we should let people own guns, but not the people who are smoking crack.
01:56:09.000Well, you know what they did have back then was opium.
01:56:15.000I guess I would say if someone was running around smoking opium, the local authority was probably going to tell that person either not to keep their guns or they might keep an extra eye on them, right?
01:56:28.000So you didn't have the same oversight from the federal government.
01:56:30.000Which, by the way, was not legal in the States.
01:56:34.000So you didn't have the same federal oversight, but if you look at how things were being done in any of the colonies or states, yeah, there was local law enforcement, and if someone was smoking opium and also had a firearm or was using their firearm while smoking it, that would be dealt with by local authorities.
01:57:20.000his second half is which he paid twice to be able to get two chats in right on there are other options for searching with active sonar from a fast attack sub however at 13 000 feet only a few vessels can get that deep none of them are equipped for rescue and salvage That's exactly right, and I was having the same exact thought, but I think it's right.
01:57:42.000We have tech, but we don't have tech on the right platforms, the speed, the time, none of it fits.
01:57:47.000Look, folks, it's been an incredible first time out of the box here.
01:57:51.000Myself, Tim 2.0, will of course promote human events, humanevents.com.
01:57:56.000Make sure you go check that out, 2 p.m.
01:58:11.000None of the stuff that I brought up, it's just a different mentality out in California, I guess, being on the front lines and stuff like that.
01:58:18.000If you guys want to follow me, I go by InformWithAnthony.
01:58:21.000What I do is I do stuff in English and Spanish.
01:58:58.000What I would like to shout out today is something that a number of you probably have heard me say if you've been seeing me on podcasts lately or following me on Twitter, but there's a family at my church and they have a three-year-old little son named Seamus and he has skeletal dysplasia and he's having a very dangerous surgery in the near future.
01:59:16.000So, what I'm asking for people to do is pray for him and to pray for his family, and I posted the prayer that his family is going to be praying.
01:59:27.000I can post it again in the comments section of this video if you guys want to look at that and say the same prayer that all of us are saying, but please send your prayers out to him and his family.
02:00:28.000Got to see, by the way, I have to say this, I got to see the world premiere, DC premiere of Sound of Freedom last night, Jim Caviezel, Tim Ballard.
02:00:36.000I understand there's some talk about getting them on TimCast.
02:00:39.000Look, hardest show I've ever watched in my life.
02:01:19.000And because I have two little boys at home who, and the very first thing I did when I got home was walk up to them and just hold them and just give them a kiss on the forehead and say, Daddy loves you.
02:01:29.000Because they show a little boy and a little girl being kidnapped and what happens to them after they are kidnapped by sex traffickers.
02:01:41.000In South America, and it is pure evil, but God bless the people, Eduardo Verastegui for making this film, CPAC for holding the premiere at Museum of the Bible.
02:01:56.000I've talked before and Tim has talked about how, you know, I had this great community back home when I was growing up, a town, a real town.
02:02:05.000And I remember, you know, my dad used to, my dad worked at a local hospital on Fridays.
02:02:11.000We would go and drop it off at the local bank, at the branch.
02:02:14.000And then we'd stop into the paint shop, because the paint shop was right next door to the bank, and my dad's best friend would work at the paint shop, and if we needed to paint something at the house, we'd go see Mike, and Mike would mix us up some paint, and we'd get for him, and he'd show us the color, and we'd make sure it was the one my mom wanted, you know?
02:02:33.000And, um, and he passed away today, um, very suddenly.
02:02:37.000And so just, uh, just, we're praying for his family, but it's also, it made me think about how those communities, those tight knit communities that we used to have in this country are few and far between.
02:02:47.000And my children don't have communities like that anymore, where they're friends with the people that I grew up being friends with and that my father was being friends with.
02:02:56.000And so those, That is what was taken from me personally.
02:03:00.000That's what was taken from my children.
02:03:02.000This is what has been taken from us as a nation.
02:03:18.000As someone who lived in LA for some years before I came out here, it is the front lines.
02:03:22.000There's a lot going on there, and I think that people often give up hope when you're in a place like LA, because it's hard not to look around you, especially as I'm sure you know that Skid Row is all over the downtown area.
02:03:33.000It's not just 6th Street anymore, it's the entire Entire downtown of Los Angeles.
02:04:00.000We're going to take a break, but we are going to be talking about Joe Biden and his comments about F-16s or 15s or whichever ones that he wants and the use of them on the American people.