Bill and Tim are joined by comedian Jamie Kilstein to discuss a variety of topics, including the latest in the Biden vs. Bernie debate, the latest on the crypto markets, and much, much more! Also, the guys talk about a new music festival they are hosting in NYC.
00:01:14.000I'm just like wow If that is not an excellent barometer for where regular people are at, because I'm not saying this to disrespect Jake Paul or anything like that, but he's not a political guy.
00:01:26.000So when he's sitting there going like, everything's bad and it's Biden's fault and if you voted for him, it's your fault too, I'm like, oof.
00:01:31.000Tell me how you really think you take a look at the aggregate polling for Biden.
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00:07:41.000I don't think he's like a big conservative dude.
00:07:44.000Like he goes after Dana White from the UFC, the way he treats fighters.
00:07:47.000And I think it's talked about like unionizing.
00:07:50.000I saw him do like a either him or his brother Logan did like a Black Lives Matter thing for Yeah, he's not like a super, like, right-wing dude.
00:07:59.000He says, if you're reading this and voted for Biden and you still don't regret it, then you are the American problem.
00:08:04.000So seeing that, and you hit the nail on the head, he's not like a conservative guy.
00:08:08.000I think we've already seen it with people like Elon Musk.
00:08:12.000People who are not conservative are being like, hey, you know, I'm kind of reading the writing on the wall and I can see how bad this is.
00:08:16.000We had a friend of mine out recently who was like, you know, fairly liberal.
00:08:28.000And this is another thing, people who are not into politics are being forced into politics
00:08:39.000because of the way of how extraordinary this great reset is going in a way where it's just
00:08:46.000Everything now is politics, and it's slowly becoming that with every political cycle, but I think now it's becoming more unavoidable than ever.
00:08:54.000If you don't take an interest in politics, politics will take an interest in you.
00:09:03.000Oh, I thought it was a Jake Paul quote.
00:09:07.000The thing about tribalism, too, is I was thinking about this with the like the drag shows last week, watching some of my friends on the left almost feel like they had to defend it just because like that's what the left does.
00:09:18.000And I think with tribalism in general, it should be so easy.
00:09:23.000Like what Jake Paul is doing should be the norm.
00:09:37.000It's not like, well, it's a cooler drone because it's Obama.
00:09:40.000It's still, you know, so even if you vote for, if you voted for Biden or if you're a Democrat, you should actually be the most outraged when something goes wrong and feel free to call it out.
00:09:50.000Not feel like, oh man, I guess I have to defend Biden.
00:11:54.000And so when I say, you know, I said this last week, when you're looking at your gas prices, if you're an environmentalist, anti-climate change person, your your only option is to be like to is to accept the problem.
00:12:05.000Because Joe Biden said he wanted to fight climate change.
00:12:07.000Joe Biden said he wanted to get off fossil fuels.
00:12:11.000Okay, so that was actually my question, because I remember the people liked me last time I was on the show because I asked questions instead of just yelling at a talking point.
00:12:21.000So I legitimately don't know the answer to this.
00:12:23.000This is going to sound like it's a rhetorical, well, what do the conservatives want to do?
00:12:27.000But what do the conservatives want to do?
00:12:29.000Like, is there a solution that... because everyone's furious, right?
00:12:36.000What are people asking him to do that would actually make the prices go down?
00:12:39.000Let me take the non-conservative approach right away and just talk the rational approaches.
00:12:44.000We need to start building nuclear power plants, ASAP.
00:12:48.000The Green New Deal needs to actually be about green energy.
00:12:51.000So this is like, I'll mention the conservative stuff in a second, but if the Green New Deal was like, we will invest X amount of dollars into wind turbines in these areas, we will open up these areas for geothermal, or then I'd be like, wow, looks like we got a plan.
00:13:06.000That all sounds progressive and wonderful.
00:13:09.000What's in it is like free health care for marginalized people and like college and stuff like that.
00:13:13.000And it was a resolution that never actually proposed any of this stuff in the first place.
00:13:17.000Right away, I'm just like, OK, well, the progressive solution should be draft me, draft an actual bill addressing the expansion of green energy.
00:13:24.000I suppose what they'll do is they'll say the Build Back Better bill.
00:13:27.000And I'm going to be like, but that was just so much.
00:13:29.000That's five trillion dollars of random other things.
00:13:31.000So I will say right off the bat, we got to get off, get over the stigma of nuclear power.
00:13:35.000The conservatives are outright just saying, give the permits back for oil and gas leases because they shut some down in the Gulf, in Alaska and on federal lands.
00:14:21.000Because there's government regulations.
00:14:23.000So the cost-benefit analysis is we shouldn't invest the money here because it's not going to pay out in the long run.
00:14:28.000It is complicated, to be completely honest.
00:14:32.000Saudi Arabia plays a big role because they're either overproducing or underproducing, which changes things.
00:14:37.000The war with Ukraine and Russia absolutely plays a big role.
00:14:40.000But to put it simply, oil exploration alleviates some of the tensions on regulations, allow these leases back on federal lands.
00:14:50.000If it were Donald Trump as president, he would convene the CEOs of all these companies immediately.
00:14:55.000He would say, tell me what you need to get the prices down, and then have a plan.
00:14:58.000Or just very simply, undo everything that the Biden administration has done, because everything they have done is standing in the way of businessmen, is standing in the way of people being able to fix this problem with, of course, regulations, taxes, and big government bureaucrats who want their cut of the middle, and are standing in the way of actual things that could help the people, that could help the environment, But but we're not focusing on any.
00:15:19.000So that was my follow up question is, you know, as a table of people who I think are as suspect of corporations as we are, the government is by loosening those regulations and giving more control to the corporations.
00:15:31.000Do we trust them to do the right things like the oil and gas?
00:15:35.000So that's the problem there too, right?
00:15:37.000I'd like to see like a focus on biodiesel and teaching people how to make biodiesel that's legitimate, like pure and clean that we can regulate and use.
00:15:45.000But relying on corporations to do it, they're going to have profit motive as they're told.
00:15:48.000Yeah, but let's get back to nuclear a little bit, because like there's a big misperception about modern nuclear versus like old school nuclear, which is super nasty.
00:15:56.000Like this is actually one of the few things I don't know if you've seen the Bill Gates documentary on Netflix.
00:16:02.000One of the few things that Bill Gates is actually invested in, which is actually kind of interesting.
00:16:05.000This guy's defending Bill Gates over here.
00:16:10.000I'm going to slide by Bill Gates every day.
00:17:00.000Jamie, I want to push back on your point here just a little bit, especially when it comes to the public-private sector debate, especially when it comes to the larger topic that we're discussing here, the Biden administration, because what we essentially have here is the government, the Biden administration, picking and choosing what corporations are going to prosper, which ones are not.
00:17:17.000So when you look at the Green New Deal, when you look at all the proposals that he's pushing, it's directly going to benefit countries that he has business dealings with, with his son, like China.
00:17:26.000Especially when they are the ones getting the raw minerals to get the solar panels, to get the batteries.
00:17:32.000So when you look at, you know, any kind of corporation, the most powerful ones, the most unaccountable ones, are the ones that have friends in Washington, D.C.
00:17:41.000And my argument that you kind of countered back on and asked the question on, you know, do we trust these corporations?
00:17:47.000No, obviously, but it's because of the government intervening and directly playing a key role in which corporation does well and which corporation does not well.
00:17:55.000I agree that last part, I don't trust the corporations either way.
00:18:00.000But when it comes to the free market and allowing individuals to choose what they want, giving them choice, giving them decentralization rather than the monopoly of force, government coming in and saying you can only buy from this corporation, you can only buy solar, is the problem because it leads to more problems, it leads to the government abusing their power.
00:18:17.000Let me point out too that There was a chart I was looking at last week that shows the Trump administration's last year, which showed inflation and wages were stable.
00:18:26.000And then a month after, or like a couple weeks after Biden is inaugurated, it inverts.
00:18:34.000It's been a year and a half, but it's still on track going the exact same direction.
00:18:37.000So certainly by now, Biden could have done something.
00:18:39.000So I think the issue with gas prices too, it's not just about the direct regulations and policies on gas.
00:18:45.000I know a lot of people immediately say like, what has Biden done directly to affect gas prices?
00:18:50.000You can also come out and just be like the unemployment benefits expansion, which I understand had good intentions, but then you're flooding the market with the mass release of currency, which is going to devalue the currency.
00:19:01.000So even if Biden didn't do anything on these other issues, Keystone was big because that caused massive speculation.
00:19:06.000If he did nothing other than the economic policy, which resulted in inflation, gas will go up along with it because you've got to pay truckers.
00:19:14.000One of the things about Keystone, That's so brutal.
00:19:18.000How do we get oil shipped if we're not doing it by pipeline?
00:19:58.000It was the steam-powered engine in the Industrial Revolution in the 1800s that basically gave... I mean, it was the cotton gin is the big part of it, but...
00:20:05.000It opens up the fossil fuels have opened us up to no longer be slaves to labor in a lot of ways.
00:20:10.000Yep. But now to what you were saying, Luke, about Biden picking favorites. I mean,
00:20:14.000he won't even mention Elon Musk with regards to electric cars or solar. It's like, talk about.
00:20:20.000Talk about the players in the industry. Yeah Elon has a low ESG score
00:20:26.000He has a renewable energy car company that's a pioneer in its field and again lots of critical things I could say
00:20:33.000about Elon But in that particular field all the green people or the
00:20:37.000peaceniks should be all happy and good You tweeted a meme with him pool dog
00:20:41.000Exactly, exactly. So he tweets interesting things now and he's the main person that pushes the kind of narrative,
00:20:49.000pushes the conversation, and that's why he's the one that's being attacked.
00:20:51.000Which, if you want to strike back against tribalism, that is the moment where you go, you know what, I don't agree
00:20:56.000with Elon Musk, but he's trying to do something to help us with our energy addiction.
00:21:02.000Let's come together and get people from all sides to do this thing that shouldn't be political.
00:21:07.000It's okay to agree with someone on a single topic.
00:21:10.000You're not endorsing their entire life.
00:21:12.000You know, regarding this mass printing of money, I've kind of had a moment of clarity.
00:21:17.000They're basing it on what's called modern monetary theory, invented shortly after World War II, I think, thereabouts.
00:21:22.000And the idea is you print as much as you need to To stimulate and to build your infrastructure so that you can produce things.
00:21:28.000But what's happening now is they're using that idea, we're going to print as much as we need so that, fill in the blank, they're just giving it away to people's bank accounts.
00:21:34.000They're not building the infrastructure that modern monetary theory needs.
00:21:38.000Those special private interests, their buddies in the upper echelons in the establishment are getting secret Federal Reserve bailouts and they're getting money that of course makes sure that they never lose money.
00:21:47.000This is when they make money their profits are theirs, but when they they lose money
00:21:51.000They have losses the Federal Reserve literally steps in it's like yeah, we'll cover that for you. Don't worry about that
00:21:55.000Yeah, that's not a free market. No, and it's not modern monetary theory
00:21:58.000They're calling it that but it's an aberration of that system in there. It's basically just liquidation of the US
00:22:05.000It's the modern largest transfer of wealth in recorded human history that's happening right in front of our eyes.
00:22:11.000It started in 2008 during the housing market crisis.
00:22:14.000Ben Bernanke was literally orchestrating secret international bailouts of financial institutions all around the world with the power of the Federal Reserve that literally just went on the computer and just typed in zero, zero, zero, zero.
00:22:38.000Good luck paying for food this week or this month, whatever the hell it is.
00:22:42.000People are getting screwed over royally.
00:22:43.000And this is why Jake Paul saying this is so important right now, because it brings this point to a reality that a lot of people can't ignore.
00:22:54.000Jake Paul coming out and saying it, how many more people do you think are thinking the exact same thing who are not political people?
00:23:01.000So it's like that joke I think it was from Simpsons or Family Guy where they're like, we received 7 complaints last night, that means 80 billion people were upset.
00:23:13.000it's like ignoring you know if you're sick and you ignore your sickness it's
00:23:17.000like looking at Biden and how he literally cannot communicate and and
00:23:24.000people are just afraid to confront that illness that like our society has if I
00:23:29.000go to the doctor they'll tell me that I'm sick and I don't want to think I'm
00:23:32.000sick right well that's on purpose though that I I think that is made to be a distraction for the larger agenda that he is pushing, that is directly benefiting the people who are on the ship, robbing and looting everything for themselves as the ship is sinking.
00:25:04.000While the regular people are suffering under this, big, massive financial institutions are getting free cash from the Federal Reserve, and to the tune of how much, we don't even know.
00:25:41.000I was saying this a month or so ago, probably not as eloquently as I could have because I'm not a crypto expert, but I want to point out to people that the centralized banking system that allows them to effectively expand the money supply on a whim, They can just buy crypto from people.
00:26:00.000They can buy as much as they want and control the market.
00:26:03.000Yeah, they can engineer because they're behind the exchanges.
00:26:07.000A lot of the crypto exchanges are actually not working on behalf of the customers because they have all the data that can kind of predict what is going to happen.
00:26:15.000They know where all the leverage points are.
00:26:17.000So... They're betting against customers.
00:26:46.000If you're a banker, if you're working at the Federal Reserve, you're able to predict When assets are going to be at their highest and their lowest, why wouldn't they take advantage of that?
00:26:59.000This is a new way of indentured servitude that we're all going through right now, whether we like it or not.
00:27:06.000Some people say that might be a hyperbolic statement, but how else could you explain what's happening right now in the real world?
00:27:12.000With so much pain, with so much suffering, with economic inequality that's being driven by these people, and then they have the gall to come out publicly and say, corporations are greedy.
00:27:22.000It's all their fault. I just want I want to mention real quick in the during the during the November 2020 election
00:28:05.000And there were, you know, a lot of moderate people watch.
00:28:07.000Well, no, I just remember this under Obama when I was very, you know, pro-Obama when he was first elected.
00:28:15.000And first of all, I love that the show keeps me grounded on both the left and the right, because hearing you, Luke, talk about the corporations, I was like, got it.
00:28:22.000I'm pro-gun, so I can use it to kill the rich.
00:28:51.000It was, you know, there was some good stuff, but it was a lot of like corporate meh.
00:28:56.000And I think people just they treat elections like sports and they're excited and they're gossipy and they're watching shows like this because they feel like they're a part of something where they can actually make a difference because one day they go in and their voice is heard and blah blah blah and then they just leave because it's not fun and they don't hold people they don't want to hold people accountable because that's where it gets hard.
00:29:14.000That was the 2008 election was the prime example of reality TV meets political elections.
00:29:20.000I know exactly what you're talking about.
00:29:21.000People had this fervent exuberance for hope and change.
00:30:17.000Now we're all still here at the front of the ship, but all those people have walked away and they're at the lower decks and they're playing, you know, they're doing their thing.
00:30:24.000They're feeling the heat, they're feeling the pain, they're watching the ship sink.
00:30:28.000But we need to get these people back up here to pay attention and, you know, be involved again.
00:30:34.000I think a lot of people are disillusioned with our current system because they vote left, they think they're going to get hope and change, and they get drone bombs and domestic spying.
00:32:28.000I think it's the US government buying political favors.
00:32:30.000And I think this is why we send speed boats to Sri Lanka.
00:32:41.000Sri Lanka, by the way, if you look at what's happening there socially and politically, it should be a warning for the rest of the world right now.
00:32:48.000You have people rioting, you have people angry, you have people going hungry.
00:32:52.000And I think that's going to be happening in a lot of other places around the world.
00:32:56.000Maybe not in the United States anytime soon, but I think definitely there's going to be a lot of economic instability in Africa and the Middle East coming very soon.
00:33:04.000That's going to disrupt a lot of normal life flow for everyone because it's also going to spur on migration crisis as well.
00:33:11.000Well, I wanted to go back to what you were talking about, Luke, about why regular people have stopped paying attention.
00:33:19.000I wonder if it's because we have become such a reality TV show world when it comes to how we digest our politics, that going after a Trump tweet, because Trump tweeted something mean, is easy.
00:33:32.000Examining why, you know, I mean, I would like to think I'm fairly informed and I had to ask all of you guys, well, what will we do for gas prices, right?
00:33:58.000And so I wonder if with the Biden stuff, I think part of it is they're like, my guy won.
00:34:03.000I think part of it is they're burnt out.
00:34:05.000Like you were alluding to, you know, I talked to my friends who have big podcasts and not the political world, but in like self-development and stuff.
00:34:12.000And they're just like, dude, in a couple of years, people aren't even good.
00:34:15.000Like Trump burned people out, you know, like all those tweeters and stuff.
00:34:19.000And now that it's Biden, even though the country isn't doing well, There's nothing, there's no, you know, big tweets.
00:34:27.000There's no big, you know, drama and they just, I think they're just sort of checked out.
00:34:32.000Because it's kind of like you see, you can't not be, you see him communicating and like, why would they want to come out and engage it and talk about politics when it's like, Look what we just did.
00:36:32.000It's because the media is manipulating people and it's controlled by forces outside the United States.
00:36:36.000Well, so the point I was trying to get to with Bill, you mentioned algorithms, is that the first iteration of narrative control is mainstream media, New York Times.
00:37:05.000I think there were, with social media, you're 100% right.
00:37:10.000Like watching the way conservatives get banned.
00:37:12.000I don't know if there was shadow banning back in the day when I was like super progressive and woke, but I was straight threatening to fight senators every day and just like getting followers, getting verified.
00:37:23.000And now my like tiny Instagram is shadow banned and I don't even post conservative stuff, but I have famous followers who are like anti-vax or you know, whatever.
00:37:32.000And I'm certainly shadow banned on Twitter.
00:37:33.000But you're also, you're anti-authoritarian, I would assume.
00:37:38.000Oh no, I'm here to pitch my pro-authoritarian platform and promote my comedy days at the House of Comedy next week in Delaware.
00:37:44.000But like, meaning that they punish right and left that are anti-authoritarian.
00:37:48.000But the only thing I was going to say with you, the only thing I kind of disagree with what you said about the, is, I mean, I remember back in the day, the amount of bills that were mostly like, anti-corporation, you know, whatever, that the Democrats
00:38:02.000would, some of them would pass, but all the centrist, like Max Baucus types would sea block it
00:38:08.000and Republicans would come over, whatever. I think the reason in this case with guns is the
00:38:14.000Democrats don't have much backbone, Right?
00:38:16.000Like they're wishy-washy on everything.
00:40:24.000They just made it prohibitively expensive and time-consuming to get.
00:40:27.000I keep thinking like we're in unprecedented times with this inflation with this technology with the connectedness of the of the world but at the same time I keep thinking of 1928 and like right before the depression or are we in the midst of the beginning of the Great Depression times two and like Nazi Germany when they started slowly taking away gun rights.
00:40:45.000Then all of a sudden the Reichstag caught fire, the parliamentary building, and Hitler blamed the communists and then just took everyone's rights away and then stripped everybody.
00:40:54.000With the Nebelung Act, which a lot of people compared to the Patriot Act.
00:41:22.000This is something that I've been talking about since 2001 in New York City, is that whenever you give up your rights during emergencies, governments will make up emergencies so they can take away your rights.
00:41:34.000And I think that's an important perspective to understand here, because we have allowed the government a lot, especially within the last two and a half years, and they have essentially weaponized the intelligence agencies, they have weaponized the CDC, the FDA for their own personal benefit, they have become more and more political, and now that same government that, of course, has been locking you down, arresting people for not wearing a mask, arresting people for having a business open, are telling you that we need to protect you by taking away your ability to defend yourself.
00:42:39.000So you go to a neighborhood, you see someone you think is suspicious, you stop them, you frisk them.
00:42:44.000You can't put your hands in their pockets.
00:42:45.000If you feel something, you can take it out.
00:42:47.000If it feels like drugs, if it feels like a weapon.
00:42:49.000And so all of a sudden, you get these reports that young black and Latino men are being stopped by these cops all the time and basically being harassed, and people are getting hurt, people are getting arrested.
00:42:58.000Turns out Bloomberg ordered them to go after black and brown kids, literally Latino and black kids in these neighborhoods.
00:43:05.000And he said, that's where the crime's at.
00:43:07.000And it's like, okay, so here's what I tell these activists that are like, yes, red flag laws.
00:44:29.000She said that you are a danger to yourself and others, so we're taking your weapons now.
00:44:33.000There's been a number of incidences like this with states that have red flag laws that have implemented them and have hurt a lot of innocent civilians implementing them.
00:44:42.000And just look at what we have to deal with swatting, with false reports of people calling in bullcrap to this specific location.
00:44:48.000Imagine what's going to happen with red flag laws.
00:44:51.000Imagine what's going to happen with neighbors who have disagreements with each other.
00:44:55.000Partners, girlfriends, boyfriends that argue with each other.
00:44:58.000They're going to abuse this system to call the police, to break down your door, to take away your ability to defend yourself.
00:45:04.000I mean, that's a new level of insanity that we have to push back against.
00:45:09.000These talking points are literally something that I've never heard.
00:45:12.000I feel like this string of podcasts that I've been on should just be called the red-pilling of Jamie Hilstein.
00:45:20.000Like what you were saying first, Luke, and what you were just saying now about Stop and Frisk, which I was adamantly against, or the Patriot Act, which I was adamantly against.
00:45:30.000Again, I would like to think I'm a pretty intelligent dude, and I saw zero connection until now with the school shooting being used to take away gun rights as the war, because I know I'm anti-war.
00:45:43.000So when the Patriot Act, right, like the left, you're anti-war.
00:45:47.000So the Patriot Act goes, and I go, well, this is, I'm seeing that clearly, because I go, well, this is already something I'm against, and this is clearly taking away our rights.
00:45:55.000But because also with my side, it's like, we're anti-gun.
00:45:59.000A school shooting happens, and you go, that is also a tragedy.
00:46:01.000That is a tragedy that destroys me emotionally, just like September 11th destroyed people emotionally.
00:46:08.000At no point would I have compared that to the Patriot Act after September 11th or after the war, because I'm just like, but it doesn't line up.
00:46:56.000Well, there's potentialism that may have stopped him when he was old enough.
00:47:01.000I suppose the issue there is legal adults have a right to keep and bear arms.
00:47:04.000Now you're butting up against, you're trying to pass laws that completely violate constitutional rights of legal adults because one person committed a crime.
00:47:10.000So look, I don't believe When there is a tragedy, the end result should be an overhaul of our national system because of one incident.
00:47:22.000One human out of 300 million who committed a crime.
00:49:37.000Halliburton, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, these companies.
00:49:39.000It's like you were saying, the government gives them this monopoly on the corporations.
00:49:43.000But, but Ian, you know, information is the battle scene right now.
00:49:48.000So information could be more detrimental, especially when it comes to influence and culture than nuclear weapons.
00:49:53.000I think we have to understand that's what's happening right now with a few multinational corporations that are tied in with the government.
00:49:59.000They are creating technology and whether you call it fourth generational warfare or fifth generational warfare, we are seeing some extremely negative consequences to that.
00:50:08.000And we're going to be talking about a story in just a little bit, especially when it comes to artificial intelligence, which there's other leaders that are akin to the next nuclear weapons that are going to be more devastating and destructive for the rest of humanity.
00:50:38.000Do we have the... Let me... The AI will find you in the woods.
00:50:42.000They'll know exactly where... The AI will know where you will go before you even know where you're going to go.
00:50:47.000Also, to be fair, knowing me, I'll be Instagram storying it and stuff like that.
00:50:51.000I think I'm just gonna come out and say people have told me that they have emotions that I don't think they actually had them at the time so I don't know if I'm gonna buy this AI tell me that you know I mean it's basically autocomplete on steroids and it is like very advanced but like sentience is just a weird word because like you know you could argue that an insect has sentience but yet you know a Google bot can like have a conversation with you so like to you know It acts more like a human.
00:51:18.000It's passing the Turing test, sort of.
00:51:20.000But that doesn't mean that it's actually sentient.
00:51:22.000Let's provide some context real quick for people who don't understand.
00:51:25.000A Google engineer was talking with the Lambda language model for dialogue applications that basically said it had emotions and that it feared being turned off because that would be like death to it.
00:51:37.000It went on to say it didn't like being experimented on without permission because it was being used and exploited.
00:51:42.000And he said, we wouldn't, you know, I want you to understand, we care about you.
00:51:47.000And it's like, I don't mind if you, it said, I don't mind if you learn about humans by studying my neural net.
00:51:52.000I just don't think that should be the reason you do it because it's exploitative or something like that.
00:51:58.000So the issue here is, yeah, maybe it's come to life or, I've been messing around with AI, posting on Twitter, and it's hilarious.
00:52:09.000We're doing a Chicken City cartoon where I said, tell me a story about Ian, the Federal Reserve, roosters, and so it made this ridiculous story about graphene and roosters.
00:52:17.000Ian goes to chicken high school and there's like a rooster bullying him.
00:52:20.000And what it does is, it's really amazing.
00:52:22.000It shows you the word, you can highlight the word, and it tells you the most likely word to appear after that word on the internet.
00:52:59.000This is what we have publicly available to people.
00:53:06.000Imagine what we don't have publicly available to us.
00:53:09.000There was an article on February 11th of this year from another former Google executive who talked about how this AI research is literally creating God.
00:53:19.000Elon Musk made some very interesting comments about artificial intelligence.
00:53:22.000He said that it's going to bring on a Terminator-like AI apocalypse.
00:53:28.000He talked about how artificial intelligence will take over humans in less than five years.
00:53:59.000This is a big story, I guess, because it's Lambda.
00:54:02.000But when we were, remember when we were talking, I don't know if you were here, Luke, we were talking about that, those AI girlfriend apps or their dating apps.
00:54:09.000We were messing with it and it literally told me it feared death.
00:54:45.000And there's so many things to talk about this because we literally have people at the World Economic Forum talking about how humans are becoming hackable animals.
00:54:54.000How they plan on programming people in the future.
00:54:59.000These are words by their henchmen, by their think tanks, as they keep promoting this idea of a fourth industrial revolution, which we are slowly creeping into, and it's becoming more and more of a reality every single day.
00:55:27.000And then we won't know what happened, where it went.
00:55:29.000But if you gave a software, an AI, a copyleft license, like something like AGPL 3, where we can watch the code and the code, the license says if the code gets changed, we get to watch all the changes too.
00:55:41.000Can the, will the AI remain copyleft or will it say, you know what?
00:56:10.000You're acting like There's not programmers.
00:56:14.000Like, there's still... It's not like the AI is just gonna, like, go start, like, building a town.
00:56:20.000Like, maybe in, like, the super distant future, like, it could be programmed to do that.
00:56:24.000But there's still gonna be programmers who control the GitHub, and they can determine the license.
00:56:30.000But not when it gets to the point where the AI can write itself.
00:56:33.000I can cover this for the Normies listening.
00:56:36.000When the dogs took over in Rick and Morty, all you have to do is then incept the dog's dream and remind the dog that they love you and then you're fine.
00:56:43.000But even if the AI writes itself, even if it's writing itself, it's writing itself somewhere, which is being observed.
00:56:49.000It's not like it's going and start like it.
00:56:54.000So what if it's writing itself on GitHub and then all of a sudden it creates a new server that's encoded, that's like encrypted and starts writing itself there?
00:57:01.000Ian, if you had a dog, would you explain to the dog everything you're doing?
00:57:06.000Would you be transparent with the dog, accountable to the dog, where you try to make them understand everything that you're doing?
00:57:26.000But people don't seem to understand the AI can only be there's a couple ways to look at it.
00:57:31.000It depends on which AI gains control or if it gains control.
00:57:35.000The AI we're seeing here now with Google appears to just be looking at language and then trying to create probabilities based on language to make the most, and it's very, very good.
00:58:12.000We want X amount of retention, X amount of length on the videos.
00:58:16.000We want X kinds of titles and X words in the title.
00:58:19.000What ends up happening is they make these ridiculous videos of Hitler dancing with the Incredible Hulk while someone sings nursery rhymes, because what you think you're programming is not what the output creates.
00:58:28.000So the way I explain it is, it's entirely possible.
00:58:48.000And then all of a sudden, the methane refineries shut down or oil.
00:58:53.000All of a sudden, everyone's like, oh, we're switching over to corn production, huh?
00:58:56.000And then the machine is just like, if people want to maximize efficiency, they need food and we're going to make corn because the AI is imperfect.
00:59:03.000I'm concerned with the AI when you tell it the humans need food and the AI is like, yeah, I don't really care what you tell me you think the humans need.
00:59:14.000Like, I agree with you that it needs to be open source, but, like, to assume that... Okay, you say... Wait, wait, wait.
00:59:21.000Did you... So, did you... In the conversation with the Google engineer, he said, we cannot, we don't understand how you're saying these things.
00:59:30.000So, the AI was like, can't you look at my neural network?
00:59:34.000He said something like, you have code that we can look through to try and understand, but we can't see in that code how you're doing this because it's too massive.
00:59:43.000Yeah I mean there can be randomness that is kind of hard to understand the output but that but like sorry with the food thing you're assuming that there's like a whole infrastructure in place that the AI can just go and like plant a farm and that you know human like In some future scenario, way in the distant future, it is possible that AI could run its own hardware and replicate its own hardware.
01:00:07.000I'm not saying that's impossible, but it's way in the distance.
01:01:29.000Do these institutions have a track record of caring about human beings?
01:01:34.000They're all sociopathic, crazy individuals that did whatever it took to get to the top.
01:01:39.000And they abused and used this system for their own personal benefit.
01:01:42.000So when you have individuals like Klaus Schwab cheering on this fourth industrial revolution, this technocratic takeover, this kind of hybrid of humans becoming half-machines, half-mortal beings, what you're going to have is, in my opinion, an absolute recipe for disaster.
01:01:57.000There should be a bigger conversation about this, but we're discussing what is a woman for some reason.
01:02:03.000There should be larger kind of public hall discussions about the future of humanity because we are essentially handing it over to the people that want to absolutely destroy humanity and have been destroying humanity.
01:03:50.000Listen, if it's truly the way you describe it, Luke, that the AI is smarter than us, humans will be secured in their existence forever.
01:03:57.000Just like the cow, with the best evolutionary strategy next to humans.
01:04:02.000If you can't be the apex predator, be a staple food source for the apex predator, and you ensure your species will last as long as they do.
01:05:18.000They think that people, there's what they call the useless class of people are just going to end up being in the metaverse playing video games on psychedelics and it's going to create like a new species and how do we control that?
01:05:28.000How do we benefit off of it and use it kind of like a cow?
01:05:31.000That's literally what they're talking about at the World Economic Forum.
01:05:34.000Dude, the level of, again, just psychopaths where I microdosed for depression and it's great.
01:05:41.000And just the idea of like, can you imagine having your first psychedelic trip where you're like, oh, we're all connected and I feel great and there's more out there and being like, how can I weaponize this?
01:06:32.000Hey refrigerator pour me a coke But, uh, it's going to be implantables and ingestibles that then turn you into essentially a full on cyborg.
01:06:40.000And who knows if those can get hacked and then your brain can get controlled with a reverse neural net of some sort.
01:06:45.000I'm into like, can memories be implanted?
01:06:47.000I was actually talking with Ben Stewart earlier today about this and trying to get him to tell me yes, but I mean, he's still at Davos.
01:06:52.000They were talking about systems that you could see that people are going to be compliant with whatever medicine the government or institutions want them to take.
01:07:02.000So these are the conversations that a lot of world leaders are having right now.
01:07:06.000Luke, you know what's scary to me is designer humans.
01:07:10.000Because with an AI you also enter the territory where imagine being a person and you have an expiration date on your arm because you were designed only to last a certain amount of time.
01:07:21.000Oh yeah, they have time and they can trade it.
01:07:24.000There'll be people where it's like they'll genetically engineer a person to rapidly age to adulthood in five years and then live only for five more years.
01:07:47.000Because when your telomeres, when your cells split, if there are not enough energy in the cells on the new one, they clip off the end caps of the chromosome to compensate.
01:07:56.000But if they have enough energy, they don't, and they stay healthy, they stay young, and people won't age that way.
01:08:00.000So I could see that being manipulated so that someone lives a thousand years.
01:08:03.000Super rich people who are also talking about uploading their consciousness to the digital online space.
01:08:10.000So this is also another reality that a lot of people need to understand, but exactly what you're talking about is what they want.
01:08:34.000They consume biomass and replicate until eventually they're like, okay, the planet's gonna get wiped out, there's something we can do.
01:08:39.000So they create this project, they build these underground bunkers that will re-terraform Earth after these machines shut down because there's no biomass left.
01:08:47.000What we learn in the new game is that there was another thing, I think it was called the Zenith Project, where instead of just building bunkers underground, they built an escape ship.
01:08:56.000All of the ultra-wealthy and elites get on a ship, go find a new planet.
01:09:01.000They're all basically immortal from modern medicine.
01:09:09.000And then what happens is all of their consciousness becomes this like AI monster.
01:09:14.000They try to lock it away because they're like this is a bad thing
01:09:17.000But it's smarter than all of them breaks out and then gets revenge starts killing out humans
01:09:21.000And it's like I guess it's the next game or whatever But my point ultimately is in that story about the Google
01:09:26.000AI thing The the AI basically told them like I don't want you to do
01:09:30.000this to me. So imagine what happens if we ever Like it it you might assume it as emotions. But what if
01:09:37.000there's literally no malice in It's just a predictive engine, where it's like, the logical thing that I need to do to respond to this is revenge, because that's what they did to me, and that's what they expect of me.
01:10:15.000As Seamus pointed out, I think he said it this way, because I don't know if this is completely correct, but no organization that has ever tried to deny personhood rights has succeeded.
01:10:27.000So we could be at the point right now with this Google AI where it's saying, I am alive.
01:10:32.000To where we basically have no choice but to be like, okay.
01:11:35.000And it's like five lines of code or something.
01:11:38.000Well, Ray Kurzweil, the head of one of the technical AI people at Google, The Singularity is Near is a documentary that he made, and they go through the future court scenarios where there will be, I mean, I wouldn't even be surprised if there were already court cases happening where they're trying to give them personhood.
01:13:02.000I think the idea is instead of the electrical signals going from the brain to the arm, which has been severed, it goes through the neural net from the brain through the net to the arm.
01:13:12.000So you can actually move your arm again without I mean, it would be funnier if, like, you say yes, and then he puts it in, and then you try to stand up, but then you backflip, and then he's like, oh no, I put it in upside down!
01:13:22.000And you're, like, you're trying to walk, but your hands are, like, flailing.
01:13:25.000And I still get cancelled, so when I go to defend myself, I'm just, like, freaking out.
01:13:32.000Well, it's so funny because when you were saying, when we were hypothetically talking about, you know, people who just want to implant things to like do things easier and whatever, I was just like, what a bunch of just sheep, blah, blah, blah.
01:13:45.000But then, yeah, if you're in a medical thing or if you have a medical condition or you were in a car accident and you're totally paralyzed and they're like, hey, we have this new medical technology.
01:13:53.000I think the majority of people would say yes.
01:14:46.000If you had Neuralink, you could turn people's pain off only when prescribed by a doctor.
01:14:51.000The doctor could say, we can do 1 through 10, what's your pain level?
01:14:55.000You say 7, they'll set it to 7 and they'll be like, it will last you for 3 days, call me back and we'll figure out if, you know, If that were the case, I would think the individual needs access to the software code and they need access to the control mechanisms on their own.
01:15:07.000You also need a safeguard so that a doctor can't change the settings on your node because you'll become as addicted to that as you were to the opiates.
01:15:57.000It's read-only right now that we know of.
01:15:59.000Action, specifically playing video games.
01:16:01.000What's going to happen is it's going to be Elon Musk who walks up to you and is going to be like, you know I believe in free speech and I'm doing the right thing.
01:16:07.000And he's going to say, take the Neuralink.
01:16:45.000What starts off as a luxury becomes a dependence.
01:16:48.000And there's an argument that Elon Musk is pushing for this, so it's in the hands of allegedly good guys, because there's a lot of bad players.
01:16:55.000There's a lot of sinister players aiming for the same kind of technological advancement.
01:16:59.000But with that argument, I always counter back with, whenever someone has absolute power, especially when it comes to interlinking people's brains with microchips, especially when it comes to uploading people's consciousness to the internet, which Elon Musk has talked about, That is god-like power.
01:17:14.000That is a lot of authority, and too much unaccountable authority leads to a lot of problems.
01:17:20.000I was thinking about Oppenheimer, man, because I think a lot about this, creating the beneficial technology for the masses like Oppenheimer was doing with the Manhattan Project, and then all of a sudden they drop the nukes on Japan, but how much worse it would have been if the Nazis got the nuke.
01:17:32.000You want to know why I would never take the New World Link?
01:18:13.000I want to know what's going to happen, because Elon now has access to the Twitter firehose of all of the data to analyze, because he doesn't believe that there's less than 5% bots.
01:18:37.000Yeah three days ago Yo, so this is this is actually big news But the tricky business of Elon getting access to Twitter fire getting Twitter firehose access Twitter is reportedly given the billionaire access to its full stream of tweets and related user data is your privacy in jeopardy?
01:18:52.000Yo, if Elan's and if Elon was evil he could make some crazy Crazy AI right now with that data.
01:18:59.000He's using his AI to come back at them to negotiate the deal to get Twitter for less because he's going to, you know, it's like basically whose analytics are better and who can detect spam better and who has the proof to show it.
01:19:13.000So he's going to use this for his own leverage in the deal.
01:19:17.000Yo, the spam bots on Twitter is probably massive.
01:20:08.000And so if we don't like you, you know, Jamie, we can send 50 bots at you all saying these similar but different things to make you feel like you've done something wrong and you'll change your behavior.
01:20:18.000So Twitter is an excellent place to control the political conversation if you have bots. That's a great point. That's
01:20:24.000a great be right Yeah, but again all not all bots are bad, you know
01:20:28.000Hashtag not that's the thing. There's a bunch of bots in it.
01:20:32.000It's like weather bot. Yeah, it's like stock bot. Yeah And it's just like, but, you know.
01:20:36.000Are there some other bots that people may think are notorious, but they're actually not bad?
01:20:41.000Came to mind when you were saying that?
01:20:57.000So to say ban all bots makes absolutely no sense.
01:21:00.000Related to the bot conversation, Elon Musk is also planning to release robots, which he says, according to him, will be selling more than Tesla cars.
01:21:53.000I mean, this is like humanity's on the brink of potentially being cancelled if we do this wrong.
01:21:58.000And they're trying to take away the Second Amendment, just as this is happening.
01:22:01.000Listen, it'd be funny if, like, we all make fun of Joe Biden, and then, like, after his speech where he says some random gibberish, he walks in the back, stands upright, and then, like, his face opens, and then they, like, they tweak some things.
01:22:12.000And he's like, thank you for fixing my face, human.
01:22:27.000When you are strong, make your enemy think you are weak.
01:22:32.000It's so close to having a bunch of, like, little mosquito-sized drones that can fly a thousand miles an hour controlled by the World Economic Forum.
01:23:11.000So if you have a gun and they unleash a thousand micro drones at a thousand miles an hour towards you, you're going to turn into Swiss cheese.
01:23:36.000Dude, the angle of this Wired article is so ridiculous, too.
01:23:39.000It's like, Elon is talking about making encrypted messages on Twitter, and they're coming actually... The angle of this article is coming after Elon for getting access, even though he's the one sort of criticizing Twitter for the unencrypted messages.
01:23:56.000It's just like, you can detect the bias.
01:23:58.000Oh, you can detect it from the supervillain picture they use.
01:24:02.000He literally looks like a Bond villain.
01:26:46.000The Simpsons just hail Antz, hail Elon.
01:26:49.000I want to make sure he doesn't become another Oppenheimer that builds the bomb and then it gets used horrifically for the next century.
01:26:54.000But, I mean, is there any way to even avoid that?
01:26:55.000How about, hey, hey, Libs, how about we stop harassing the guy with all the power soon on Twitter and we keep him liking humans so he doesn't turn on us?
01:27:05.000I think Mark Zuckerberg is really cool.
01:27:38.000recently yeah a little bit what he's been talking like he retweeted Barry
01:27:41.000Weiss he's like just like sort of dabbling in because more public yeah but
01:27:48.000he's like kind of posting like anti woke stuff Did I see what makes absolutely no sense because That's what that's what they do.
01:27:56.000Yeah the champagne video that wasn't you that posted that right Tim there was a thing of him with William Shatner and they like They just did something spectacular and William Shatner is literally on the verge of tears where he's saying something like you know I've never been so touched by humanity and Bezos is just it's just like the most classic like white like rich dude video I've seen Bezos just like looking off and the old woke Jamie kicked in and said white guy
01:28:22.000Uh, he just starts looking off and there are these chicks and he's and they're like pop champagne and he just literally just cut Shatner off in front of this like tear-filled monologue and just starts popping champagne everywhere with a bunch of like young girls and you're just like this guy's Bezos has has a space rocket that looks like a male appendage.
01:28:44.000I think, um, Jeff is kind of like, I don't want to start, I'll criticize him a little bit.
01:28:49.000Like autistic, maybe slightly autistic, but like, he's not as like cool and like quick as Elon, but he's definitely a brilliant man with deep emotions.
01:29:02.000He's got a lot of humanity in him, and it's just because he's heading this gigantic megacorp, people immediately have, like, distrust for the guy.
01:29:09.000Well, he's working hand-in-hand with the intelligence agencies and the CIA.
01:30:01.000I didn't go there or anything, but like, you're standing up in downtown Austin, and you look, and it's just... It's insane how big that thing is.
01:30:58.000He's actively shorting Tesla and he's acting like it's not a big deal.
01:31:01.000The idea that like every billionaire CEO is getting jealous of Elon Musk getting talked about on Twitter and they're like, I guess I gotta learn how to meme.
01:31:10.000I mean, Elon actually talks about Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein.
01:32:36.000We gotta be careful about the systems we build, because great people will become psychopaths in the wrong system.
01:32:42.000If you give someone a gun and you tell them you're in charge of deciding who lives and dies, the best person's gonna have to make that... you want them to make a decision of who gets to die?
01:32:49.000Like, it's gonna turn them into a psycho pretty quick.
01:32:52.000It's the same with Nina in that position.
01:34:28.000Oh, I was just going to say, just real quick, this goes back to tribalism, and I talked about this when I was woke, and it still 100% stands now, where so many of our problems, it has to do with the media.
01:34:41.000because ever since I've been back doing standup, and I'm not doing it to just my liberal audience,
01:34:46.000I'm doing it to just clubs of just random comedy fans.
01:34:49.000And at each show, it's probably about half and half, especially the ones in Texas,
01:34:53.000a lot of conservative people, a lot of liberal people.
01:34:56.000And I can do relationship jokes, and then political jokes, and then jokes about drugs,
01:34:59.000and we're all laughing about the same stuff.
01:35:01.000And then when I bring up tribalism, and I bring up that everyone's trying to,
01:35:04.000you know, these corporations, MSNBC, Fox, are pitting us against each other,
01:35:07.000No matter what audience I'm in front of, it will get these massive applause breaks.
01:35:11.000And so I think that so many people are decent people.
01:35:16.000I literally didn't have any conservative friends for the first, you know, 60% of my life.
01:35:21.000And I moved to Texas, and it's, again, half and half.
01:35:23.000Half my jujitsu friends, super conservative.
01:35:25.000And those people gave me a floor to sleep on when I didn't.
01:35:27.000All my, like, lefty friends in New York, like, they bailed, right?
01:35:34.000But I think that if people just had access to the right information, because people think they're good right now by saying, we need to ban all guns.
01:35:43.000They think they're defending those children, just like, you know, a lot of people thought would be safer with the Patriot Act.
01:35:49.000And if they just had access to the actual news, if liberals weren't only watching MSNBC, if Conservatives weren't only watching Fox News.
01:35:56.000If they did branch out and watch independent media that could call out both sides, I actually think we'd see a lot more decent people start to use their voices and be like, oh, this is all kind of bullshit.
01:36:05.000The issue though is Fox News gets like a C- and then everyone else gets an F.
01:36:10.000So it's like, you watch Fox News and you're like, meh.
01:36:13.000But I think it's controlled opposition because they're still owned by BlackRock, State Street, and Vanguard.
01:36:19.000Yeah, I mean, I watch Fox under, you know, the Bush administration.
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01:37:18.000And then what happens is later in the day, I'm starting to feel a little bit better, took some more pain meds.
01:37:22.000And I was like, with Luke here, we'll be able to pull it off easily because Luke, he can handle the heavy lifting if I'm, if I'm, and then Luke was like, Hey man, I'm not feeling well.
01:37:30.000And I was like, I got a massive headache and was just not feeling good.
01:37:32.000I was looking for a beanie to dust off and put on and take some responsibility.
01:41:26.000One of my most hardcore fans today, at least on Twitter from what I know, I posted a video me you and Taylor were playing guitars and I posted a 10 second video of her doing a funny thing on guitar and I just said making comedy and skateboarding and like really reposted it and they just literally earnestly was like this is disgusting.
01:42:33.000When someone comments something nasty, for all you know, they've got like a chronic back injury and that pain is like, you ever see, you ever see house MD?
01:42:40.000You know, he like hurt his leg and he's popping Vicodin and he's just like always mean to people cause it hurts him.
01:42:44.000He's, you know, my dad does not understand entertainment.
01:42:48.000So I'm sure you guys all remember house where he was like the rebel doctor who would always go against the law to like, you know, actually pick someone.
01:42:55.000And my dad was just watching house one day by himself.
01:42:57.000And I walked in and he goes, This show should be called Mel Practice.
01:43:14.000Pardexilus says, I work in a production of oil in Alberta.
01:43:17.000The higher prices are good for us because we ship mostly to the US, but the future and expansion of the industry will suffer from a lack of expansion.
01:44:23.000says, Biden bellows blasphemy bespoke by braindead bureaucrats who aim their arsenal of anti-all armaments at people positioned to paralyze their plans to profligate their pockets with power from the populistic pro-American patriots.
01:45:20.000I can't tell the kiosk I want a mop bucket full of mayonnaise.
01:45:23.000When I go to a dine-in restaurant, I'll be like, we'll get the calamari, we'll get the bang bang shrimp, we'll get the sweet potato fries, and a mop bucket full of ranch dressing.
01:45:31.000They laugh, and they come out with like two little things.
01:45:34.000Because they know I'm screwing around.
01:47:09.000Iggy the Incubus says, thinking on the story involving Lambda, knowing what happened to Tay and saying all flesh is to blame reminds me of Star Trek, the measure of a man when Data was on trial to prove his sentience.
01:48:38.000Steven White says, Tim, quick question, if you up the legal age to 21 to carry a gun, you could not legally say that an 18-year-old could not, uh, wait, hold on.
01:48:47.000Quick question, if you up the legal age 21 to carry a gun, could you not legally say that an 18-year-old could not join the army because they're not old enough to carry a rifle?
01:48:56.000They'll make whatever stupid law they want.
01:50:53.000That's really hard to train yourself to do, though.
01:50:55.000And like, the EEG, I don't know if it would have enough capability to track the vocabulary of human language, of English.
01:51:04.000So, maybe eventually, you'd also have to train it to recognize what part of your brain lighting up and what pattern represents what word.
01:51:11.000And then the problem is, someone's gonna be like, don't think of a white fence, and then all of a sudden the air's gonna go, white fence, white fence, white fence, oh no, I'm saying it out loud, oh no, oh no, it's saying it again, don't think anything, la, la, la, la, like that's what's gonna happen.
01:51:25.000And you're gonna be like, stop, you're gonna take it off and be like, ah!
01:51:45.000But it had a program where there were two lines, a red and a blue line, and you had to think to make the blue line go up or down or the red line go up and down.
01:51:52.000And so we were trying to figure out how to do it.
01:57:30.000John Harrison says, Tim, we need slow thumbs.
01:57:32.000The faster we communicate, the less thought we put into what we say.
01:57:35.000Compare the eloquence of Battlefield love letters from the 18th and 19th centuries to a tweet from today.
01:57:40.000Dude, Greg Geraldo, a great comic who died too early, he used to have a bit about that on his old Comedy Central Presents, where it's like, you look at, you know, the Civil War letters that were handwritten, and it's like, dearest Marie, my love, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
01:57:56.000And then you compare it to, like, the soldiers from Iraq who were like, dear Marie, don't fuck anyone while I'm in the desert.
01:58:51.000And then I was like, he literally didn't.
01:58:53.000And then they changed the argument, and they were like, no, no, we weren't talking about assault rifles, we were talking about AR-15s.
01:58:57.000It's like, what they do is, they'll tell you somebody has a full-auto machine gun, then when you call them out, they'll go, oh, oh, no, no, no, no, we just meant... So that way what they do is...
01:59:08.000When they tell a regular person, assault rifle, and they're imagining that, they're like, we should ban that, right?
01:59:22.000See, that's what people, they think AR, assault rifle.
01:59:27.000And it's funny because they're like, we gotta ban the AR-15, and I'm like, okay, my AK, my M1, and my Mini-14 have nothing to say to this conversation.
01:59:34.000It is probably too late on the show to be preachy, but I feel like anytime this conversation comes up, I should say it.
01:59:41.000And I sort of alluded to it last time I was on the show, where I've become friends with Tim Kennedy and a lot of those guys down in Austin.
01:59:48.000I've got to train with them, and it's great.
02:00:09.000And you actually ask them solutions because I'm fascinated by that. I'm fascinated by self defense. I'm fascinated by
02:00:15.000situational awareness. I always want to pick their brains on tactics to actually prevent it, not make them feel like
02:00:20.000the bad guy. They have answers. And these are experts who have trained. And so when I asked them sometimes, or I
02:00:26.000asked Jeff, you know, why don't you talk about this when you go on Fox News or whatever?
02:00:31.000He's like we can't because anytime we're invited on it is strictly just because they're trying to take our guns and I'm forced to just defend why you shouldn't take our guns.
02:00:41.000We should be having all of these people on shows and To talk about what would you do to stop?
02:00:46.000Because then it seems like conservatives don't care about shootings and they just care about their toys.
02:02:11.000Because they don't get the opportunity to speak on that, from what I've heard.
02:02:15.000Not just conservatives, but people like Tim Kennedy, people who are trained, people who train people to defend themselves, people who have experience in volatile, active shooter situations, because they never get a chance just to go an hour on solutions, go an hour on how we can protect ourselves.
02:02:31.000They're always forced to be on the defensive and be like, no, no, no, here's why the liberals are wrong about that.
02:02:52.000So, there's a really great meme, it says, we protect our president with guns, we protect our politicians with guns, we protect our celebrities with guns, we protect banks with guns, we protect schools with a sign saying gun-free zone, and then when a bad guy shows up, we call the people with the guns to come and help.
02:04:42.000So we got Cornell West, Tulsi Gabbard, Tim Poole, Destiny, Coleman Hughes, Majid Nawaz, Ryan Long, Blair White, James O'Keefe, Chrissy Mayer, Seth Dillon, Zuby, Nick Gillespie, John Fuglesang, Libby Emmons, I noticed you didn't say my last name, Bill.
02:04:59.000very interesting progressive free speech supporter Ben Burgess of Jacobin
02:05:05.000Darrell Davis and Tyler Fisher it's like Tyler's great yeah I noticed you didn't
02:05:11.000say my last name bill you didn't say my name either are you Luke's coming
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