On this episode of The Daily Wire, Ben Shapiro and Andrew Klavan discuss the latest in the Black Lives Matter scandal, the recent acquittals of some of the most dangerous members of the mob, and the new Disney movie featuring a gay character.
00:00:19.000And therefore, there's no trespassing.
00:00:21.000And nothing else makes sense after that.
00:00:24.000Oh, I'd just like to gloat on this one for a minute because the Young Turks told me, or they told everyone, I made the dumbest argument by saying, if people are fanned in by police with no warning to leave, you can't convict them for trespass.
00:00:38.000Now there was another trial where a man was convicted of trespassing, but this is because The same judge was like, you've, you climbed over some barrier and could clearly see it was closed off.
00:00:50.000But as for those who were waved in by the cops and had the doors open, we may be seeing a wave of acquittals for people who actually decide to go on trial.
00:02:40.000It's also very much like how with Katonji Brown Jackson, they were like the first black Supreme Court justice Yes, and then it's like I mean aside from the fact fact that Clarence Thomas is currently there Thurgood Marshall I think like a long time ago.
00:02:51.000It's constantly first It's the first time and people have joked about this before that there have been about 13 instances of Disney introducing the first gay character in one of their films and I sort of took that and Connected it to what's going on at it a little bit of a twist to it.
00:03:04.000I think you guys will enjoy Maybe you should have a little sympathy because they may be caught in a time loop.
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00:06:11.000New Mexico man acquitted of charges related to January 6th.
00:06:15.000The federal defense contractor is the first person to be found not guilty of all charges filed against him in connection to the capital security breach.
00:06:23.000Matthew Martin, a federal defense contractor, was acquitted on April 6th following a two-day bench trial.
00:06:29.000Martin had been charged with entering and remaining in a restricted building, disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building, violent entry and disorderly conduct in a Capitol building, and parading, demonstrating, or picketing in a Capitol building.
00:06:43.000District Judge Trevor N. McFadden said that the first charge of entering and remaining in a restricted building was a close call, but that there was a reasonable doubt whether Martin knew he was entering a restricted building.
00:06:55.000McFadden also said the government failed to show evidence of Martin crossing the police line, which mobs of protesters had broken before he had arrived at the Capitol.
00:07:04.000During his April 5th testimony, Martin said he went with the flow.
00:07:10.000For the people who tore down the barricades, tore the signs down, attacked cops, well of course they're gonna get convicted.
00:07:16.000There's video evidence of them attacking people.
00:07:18.000But we've long maintained that there is reasonable doubt for those, the MAGA memaws they call them, who fumbled and bumbled their way into the building as police fanned them in.
00:07:36.000You know, it's very rare that federal cases go to trial because people are so terrified by the federal government because the federal government doesn't mess around.
00:07:44.000When they put you away for 15 years, you stay away for 15 years.
00:07:47.000There's no time off for good behavior.
00:07:49.000So when they come to you and they say, well, we'll give you four years instead, People confess and they plead guilty.
00:07:55.000But you just don't have to do it, especially if there was, as in this case, there was video of the guy being let in.
00:08:02.000And this is the video that we referenced back in January, where you see the door open, and then there's actual audio where you can hear a cop say, I don't agree with it, but I respect it, or something like that.
00:09:38.000You mentioned earlier the fact that the federal government tends to convict.
00:09:40.000I think their prosecution rate is something above 95% because like you said people are usually willing to take plea deals and it's not as if they're sitting there messing around looking for reasons to let somebody off.
00:09:50.000They weren't able to convict this guy because there was reasonable doubt whether he intentionally trespassed and there have been at this point dozens if not hundreds of people who were there who have repeated this narrative that they were waived in by the police.
00:10:00.000They did not know they weren't supposed to be there.
00:10:02.000Obviously people who broke in, who legitimately trespassed, who broke down the barriers like you mentioned, Those are criminals, but there are many people who thought that they were allowed to be there based on the conduct of the police and so for the Young Turks to come smear you because you smear my good name smeared the good name besmirched the good name of Sir Timothy cast Over his prediction which turned out to be correct is frankly hilarious.
00:10:26.000They own themselves You know what gets me really is that the process is the punishment in this situation.
00:10:30.000Did this guy sit in solitary for a year like a lot of these other people?
00:10:33.000So he's in a state of mind where he's like, I'm going to take it to court because I've got nothing left to lose at this point if they're going to leave me in jail for a year without due process.
00:10:42.000I'm not trying to rain on this because this is great news.
00:10:44.000This is really good news and it's definitely an indication that a lot more acquittals are coming.
00:10:49.000So if we see more acquittals, I wonder which direction that is going to build political momentum.
00:10:54.000Because on the one hand, it could result in people saying that the entire narrative was nonsensical and revolting against Democrats as a result.
00:11:01.000Or maybe it could embolden Democrats to say, these people are getting away with an insurrection, even though that's complete nonsense.
00:11:06.000And the judge was appointed by Donald Trump.
00:11:08.000Yeah, there is that, but I still think that people have got this exactly right.
00:11:12.000They know it was bad, they shouldn't have done it, but they also know the Democrats have just played and played and played this card until it's absolutely maxed out.
00:11:34.000The January 6th committee will be gone, and then the Republican Party will twiddle its thumbs and fall asleep.
00:11:39.000The Republicans get kicked out of office for not doing what they say they'll do and Democrats get kicked out for doing what they say they'll do.
00:11:45.000I mean, because because Republicans, if they would actually follow, as Trump did, in fact, if they would actually deliver on their conservative promises, everything gets better.
00:11:53.000You know, what are some of the promises that you like that you thought should have got followed through on?
00:11:58.000just conservatives in general that you've noticed? Well I think for instance
00:12:01.000immigration reform you know maybe we could stop people from pouring in over
00:12:05.000the over the border forever you know I think every country on earth has a
00:12:08.000border why don't we that's that's always a good one I think cutting back on some
00:12:13.000of the entitlement that have driven us so far into debt that we're essentially
00:12:17.000a debtor nation with very little chance of getting climbing our way out
00:12:21.000I think that, you know, the kinds of things that are happening in Disneyland, the magical kingdom, which has become even more magical if you happen to be slightly odd.
00:12:31.000You know, I think those are the kinds of things that a president should address.
00:12:34.000One of the things I thought was great about Trump was that he fought the culture wars and I think that that's why he got elected and that's why he was where he was.
00:12:42.000I went to a bunch of the Trump rallies and the young men that I met said political correctness was a huge reason why they were voting for Trump.
00:12:49.000They felt that Trump's potty mouth was a pullback that would pull everything back to normalcy in terms of our ability to speak.
00:12:57.000I mean, it's just no question for 50 years, 60 years, they've been telling people in this country their country stinks, their religion is untrue, they're racist, they're sexist, you know, everything about them is terrible, and their history is terrible.
00:13:10.000All the pride that America had for a country that, after all, did defeat both Soviet Communism and Nazism, and was the only republic in the world when it started, was the, you know, it actually So you think it was the military-industrial complex, the liberal economic order, the formation in 1946 that just annihilated?
00:13:25.000that we had was just absolutely stomped on for 50, 60 years and then they
00:13:29.000wondered why did they elect Donald Trump? Well they elected Donald Trump because
00:13:32.000he told these people where to go. So you think it was the military-industrial
00:13:35.000complex, the the liberal economic order, the formation in 1946 that just just
00:13:39.000annihilated? That's what I think it is anyway. What do you mean? Well in 1946
00:13:43.000after World War II they decided we don't want World War again,
00:13:45.000We're going to set up this liberal economic order and put American military bases, apparently, or British military bases, a lot of them, and then the Americans took them, set up all these military bases.
00:13:53.000But it seems like they're using the Federal Reserve to overprint military, military, more bombs, more blow up, waste money, and they destroyed our economy and our will to live.
00:14:02.000It's not the military that destroys our economy.
00:14:04.000It is the entitlements that cannot be stopped.
00:14:07.000You know, you can't vote the entitlements out without destroying them, and once the government gives you something, nobody ever gives it back.
00:14:13.000So, I view this as putting a Band-Aid on a Band-Aid on a Band-Aid.
00:14:17.000So, we get a wound in this country of some sort, like a housing crisis, and then we're like, quick, what do we do to heal this wound?
00:14:27.000And it may be a simple solution to everybody, like, okay, we'll just, you know, we've got an economic crisis, let's give a stimulus to everybody to keep them afloat for now, slapping a Band-Aid on the wound.
00:14:37.000Then a few weeks later, when the wound starts festering, they say, you better slap another bandage over that.
00:14:41.000So instead of cleaning it off, taking the bandage off, cleaning the wound, putting a new bandage on, we've just stacked piles and piles of bandages on bandages.
00:14:49.000I'm a little bit, I see it in a little bit more of a sinister light.
00:15:20.000I think, and like you guys were saying, Trump's potty mouth, I think if the technocratic spy state wasn't in effect, the potty mouth may have actually, you know, brought people back to a state of sanity, or at least a state where they could, they could really...
00:15:31.000I have mixed feelings on the potty mouth.
00:16:24.000You know, Miles Dyson, the guy's like, well, if I'd known I was going to build the Terminator, I'll stop right now.
00:16:29.000I got to give this shout out and talk about our good friends over at the Young Turks, because we have this video they posted back on February 8th, and it says, Tim Poole makes the dumbest January 6th argument yet.
00:16:42.000Oh, this is just, it feels so good to... There's so much to bring up in terms of cultural politics and politics here that this exemplifies.
00:16:51.000I'm grateful to be a part of the story.
00:16:53.000For those that aren't familiar, just to go back to our previous segment, in January, I had made the point that at the Capitol, many people were let in the building by the police, that there were no barricades, they'd been torn down and people walked up, cops were fanning them in, doors were being opened for them.
00:17:07.000How could you charge someone with trespass if they were welcomed into a building?
00:17:12.000And so, taking that out of context, some Twitter guy takes a clip of it, the Young Turks, doing no research, run the clip of it while smack-talking me saying I'm wrong and saying really dumb, poor legal arguments like, if there's broken glass on the ground, it's trespassing.
00:17:27.000I think Jack may have said that where they're like, I'm just going to walk over this broken glass and that means I'm allowed in.
00:17:33.000And it's like, it doesn't mean you're not allowed in.
00:17:35.000Broken glass is not a trespassing sign.
00:17:37.000Like imagine going to a McDonald's and there's a broken window.
00:17:39.000It's like, I guess I can't come into McDonald's.
00:17:45.000So they run this segment, and I am proud to say now that we have been absolutely vindicated, proven right.
00:17:52.000Judge issues the first outright acquittal of a defendant charged over the January 6th riot.
00:17:56.000We did just mention this in a previous segment, but here's the best part.
00:17:59.000I tweeted how it started, how it's going, with that clip from the Young Turks, with the new article that comes out showing this guy's been acquitted, and I said, hey, Anna, I was right.
00:18:11.000And their response is... Anna responded on Twitter as if the news didn't come out.
00:18:17.000She just repeated the exact same false premise on my argument while ignoring the fact that even her false premise... So I said the rioters are going to go to jail, the violent people go to jail.
00:18:28.000She's claiming that I'm saying the rioters themselves will be acquitted because there's no signs, which is a gross exaggeration of my point.
00:19:34.000Well, we've got more data from the laptop reportedly coming out soon.
00:19:38.000When she says it was a boring story, she's lying.
00:19:41.000I know it's boring because it requires glucose to change your mind.
00:19:45.000Cognitive dissonance requires a lot of energy to override.
00:19:49.000I don't know if you know this, but even though we know now that the information on the laptop is true and legitimate, it wasn't true back then.
00:19:57.000I'm sorry you were misinformed about this, but it wasn't true at the time.
00:20:02.000Think about the historical record, right?
00:20:04.000So, if you pull up stories from, you know, October 2020, you will learn about Russian disinformation manipulating the United States.
00:20:14.000The story today now is that the laptop is true.
00:20:18.000There were opinion pieces, commentary, analysis, subsequent investigations, and this is the track record we get from these establishment crony shill press, be it Young Turks or otherwise.
00:22:07.000He had a rich dad and he's very unsuccessful.
00:22:09.000And I'm not saying the man never dealt with struggle or hardship, but why is it that Trump's kids get their heat held to the fire on everything and Biden's kid is a crackhead and you're not even allowed to discuss it?
00:24:19.000Cause and effect is so obvious and predictable.
00:24:25.000You know exactly what they're going to say, how they're going to say it, when they're going to say it.
00:24:28.000You could write their articles for them before they write it, and then publish them to prove a point, but you'd be talking to nobody.
00:24:34.000Like I was mentioning with Anne and the Young Turks, even though an article comes out Actually proving my point was correct, they act like it never happened.
00:24:42.000Just to clarify, you were saying that some of the people that went to the January 6th event were just let in and should be not necessarily charged with trespass, but then they interpreted that as you were talking about the people that were breaking windows and stuff as well.
00:25:02.000Well, I think it's fair to say perhaps that they're making it up because if they actually watched anything I said, they would have known that I've always said that the January 6th rioters should go to prison.
00:25:12.000Even in the Daily Beast smear piece against me, they quoted me saying the January 6th rioters should be in prison.
00:25:18.000So for the Young Turks to pretend like I've never, like I'm saying the opposite is ridiculous.
00:25:23.000When it comes to the grooming story, when it comes to the Hunter Biden laptop, we talk about double standards all the time.
00:25:28.000This is one of the reasons why I think it's kind of pointless to give them quotes or even interact with them, because you know exactly what they're going to do.
00:25:34.000They'll come out, they'll say, you are all fascists.
00:25:37.000Then you'll come out and be like, some of these people are groomers, and they'll go, They're making up fake definitions of words now to lie and smear us, and it's like... But it's not even a fake definition.
00:25:46.000That defines... I mean, if you say you should be able to have private conversations with someone else's kid about sexuality and tell them, don't tell your parents, you're grooming them.
00:26:20.000Or that anybody in the nation is still listening.
00:26:22.000The funny thing I'm seeing now from a lot of people on the left on Facebook is they're arguing the bill in Florida.
00:26:30.000Someone posted a meme where it's like, in response to this bill, I'm going to stop talking to kids about traditional marriage and heterosexuality, and I'm not going to use gendered pronouns.
00:26:38.000And I'm like, you are now arguing that the actual position of the conservatives is the position they don't have I'm confused.
00:26:46.000Like, you were the ones who created the narrative that it banned people talking about gay people when the conservatives never said that.
00:27:35.000Well, so I do want to jump to another story, but I'm just curious because when it comes to the media and the very obvious predictable nature of the lies and the manipulations, I'm curious your thoughts, Andrew.
00:27:45.000My attitude's very much been just ignored at this point because the moral universes are so disparate.
00:27:51.000Like, there's not a single sane, rational human being of cognitive faculties who is
00:27:57.000going to agree that adults should have sexual conversations with children in secret, but
00:28:02.000there's the entirety of the democratic establishment lying to maintain that.
00:28:07.000What do you think the solution is here?
00:28:10.000I think you do have to speak up for the simple reason that people get afraid.
00:28:13.000They think that more people agree with them than do.
00:28:17.000And so, you know, I worked in Hollywood for a long time and I would walk into a meeting and somebody would come over to me and say, I saw you on Hannity last night.
00:28:25.000They whisper, I saw you on Hannity last night.
00:28:27.000And I would say, why are you whispering?
00:29:27.000statement. Yeah, that's correct. He was he was uh they'll they'll lie and they'll they'll
00:29:32.000cheat and they'll steal and they'll manipulate but Papa John was on a phone call and he complained
00:29:36.000about racism. Right. He used the word to he was a racial slur to complain about the slur
00:29:41.000and how someone else had used it and no one cared. And we're in a situation now.
00:29:44.000And they've destroyed his life, his career over it.
00:29:46.000YouTube censorship laws is like, if you reference a book from the past that has a word in it that's now considered racist, you're essentially, the algorithm treats that as if you're the ones making the racist comment.
00:29:57.000And that's dangerous for society, for free speech.
00:30:01.000I don't, you know, same thing happened to John.
00:30:17.000It was instituted among men to protect our God-given rights.
00:30:21.000The First Amendment protects those rights from the government, but the government actually, its job is to protect our free speech rights.
00:30:27.000When you have things like Google, which is controlling 90% of the information flow, Amazon, which is selling 90% of the new books, They can be regulated.
00:30:34.000They can be essentially regulated to make sure that everybody gets to speak.
00:30:37.000Let's let's you on it. Oh, yeah, I just want to add this.
00:30:40.000It's kind of hilarious We see this a lot with conservatives basically just
00:30:43.000accepting the left-wing framing So what lefties will say is you believe in free market
00:31:36.000BLM took measures to keep the purchase a secret.
00:31:39.000On Wednesday, cullers responded to questions over the cash purchase of the Studio City mansion, describing them as racist and sexist.
00:31:46.000She said that the author had a proven and very public bias against me and other black leaders.
00:31:51.000The expansive estate was purchased by Diane Paschal, the financial manager for the LLC Janaya & Patrice Consulting.
00:31:59.000The New York Post reported the property was purchased from televangelists Sean and Sherry Boltz on October 21st, 2020 for $3.1 million.
00:32:09.000LA County property assessment records consulted by the post show the value of the two parcels combined.
00:32:14.000It's one one house with two buildings at 3.3 million on July 6 2020 three months before Pascal's purchase The value nearly doubled after the purchase of the property on January 24th, 2021.
00:32:27.000The assessment for the two parcels shot up to 5.8.
00:32:30.000Pascal told the Post he paid the asking price without elaborating further.
00:32:35.000Within a week of the purchase, ownership was transferred to an LLC in Delaware named after the property's address public records show.
00:32:42.000Now, I don't know exactly if this proves anything definitively, but here's what it sounds like at the very least.
00:32:50.000There were televangelists who had a $3.3 million property.
00:33:56.000The police are not prejudiced against black people.
00:33:59.000Black people commit an inordinate amount, let me put it another way, an inordinate amount of the crime, violent crime that is committed, is committed by people who are black.
00:34:21.000If 50% of the country... 7% of the country are black males.
00:34:26.000It's not that 7% of the country are committing 50% of the murders because it's a small number.
00:34:30.000The majority of black people, of course, are not murderers at all.
00:34:33.000It's a small number of bad guys who are black who are committing 50% of the crime.
00:34:37.000That puts police in a certain position.
00:34:39.000That means you are statistically more suspicious when you go into a neighborhood and you're black.
00:34:44.000And it's very insulting and upsetting for a stand-up guy who's black to get stopped by the police for nothing.
00:34:51.000But it's also upsetting for a stand-up cop Who's also in the majority to be accused of being?
00:34:58.000Racist because there was a bad cop so so all I'm saying is this is a con game from the beginning their Open plan in the on their website until they took it down was a Maoist plan to introduce violently introduce socialism and destroy the American family and destroy as they call it cisgender Sexuality and they did it through riots.
00:35:17.000It's a con game And specifically on their website, targeting the family, disrupting the nuclear family.
00:35:22.000But I would love to actually have a deeper moral discussion, because I think we often don't go through it.
00:35:30.000I mentioned poverty, and you mentioned race, but I don't think you're implying that based on race, they're committing more crime.
00:35:40.000I think that's why they want to get rid of bail, and they want to get rid of policing, because literally the left does not think black people Can you rise above?
00:37:02.000But people are sinful, they're broken, they're criminal, and that is going to come out everywhere.
00:37:07.000The culture, black culture, has been utterly destroyed and it was destroyed by Great Society programs by the left.
00:37:13.000Before the Great Society, before Lyndon Johnson's Great Society, black people were moving into the middle class faster than they were afterward.
00:37:22.000They were warned, the Democrats were warned by a Democrat, by their own guy, that these programs would foster single-parent homes and destroy the black family.
00:37:32.000It used to be that 25% of Black children were born out of wedlock.
00:38:08.000Most black people who are poor are also honest.
00:38:12.000You know, they're trying to build jobs, they're trying to build a life and all this.
00:38:15.000But when you have no father, when you have broken homes, when each guy has three different baby mamas and all this stuff, you are going to have more crime.
00:38:26.000You know, Jason Reilly, one of the much better writers about black problems in America, had a book and it was called Please Stop Helping Us.
00:38:34.000And that's what I think the problem is.
00:38:36.000It makes me wonder about the Democrats' position before civil rights and how their position after civil rights still perpetuates serious problems in the black community.
00:38:45.000Well, right, because, I mean, the Martin Luther King idea that you should be judged by the content of your character, not the color of your skin, has gone out the window.
00:39:13.000And I said, and do you believe that there are towns in California that are 90, 99% white?
00:39:17.000Well, yes, of course, of course there are.
00:39:20.000Do you think those towns, when this law passes, or when you repeal the civil rights provision, do you think they're now all of a sudden going to have an epiphany and recognize that they should treat everyone equally?
00:39:31.000Or do you think that those people, because by virtue of being white they're racist, will be racist towards black people with impunity because you've repealed the protections?
00:40:17.000You know, when it comes to... We have a lot of problems.
00:40:20.000I'll give you my perspective from Chicago.
00:40:22.000Racial segregation is the norm in Chicago.
00:40:25.000Mostly by choice, but still the remnants of blockbusting and redlining.
00:40:29.000So, redlining is when they said, you know, that the real estate companies or whatever, they would draw out areas where they're like, we'll only move certain people of certain races, you know, black people in these areas near the redline.
00:40:51.000And what happens is the remnants of those policies result in people wanting to move into areas where there's people of their own community.
00:40:59.000So it keeps segregation fairly entrenched.
00:41:01.000But then you also have laws that were passed that seemingly do the same thing.
00:41:04.000I've talked about how They had Latino elotes carts, the corn with the mayo and stuff, and they wouldn't let them come to our neighborhood.
00:41:11.000They passed a law or whatever banning them from crossing one street.
00:41:15.000Just so happens that one street, once you cross it, all the ads are in Spanish.
00:41:18.000So I think you've got, in Chicago, a very serious Democrat problem.
00:41:23.000I personally think that they thrive on racism.
00:41:42.000If I may just, people like to gather with their own.
00:41:47.000This country, we forget what a revolutionary experiment this country is.
00:41:51.000What Andrew Sullivan said to John Stewart was exactly right.
00:41:54.000I lived out of this country for seven years.
00:41:56.000This is the least racist country on earth.
00:41:58.000That doesn't mean it's not racist, that doesn't mean there aren't racists, that doesn't mean there aren't systems in place that can be reformed.
00:42:05.000But this is the only country in the world, since Rome, since the Roman Empire, where we say, if you come over, you are an American.
00:42:14.000Doesn't matter what you look like, doesn't matter where you come from.
00:42:16.000If you look at who is most successful in America, I think it's Indian Americans.
00:42:21.000Certainly Chinese Americans are successful.
00:42:23.000So it's not color, it's not skin color that's keeping people down.
00:42:27.000This country is amazing in its ethnic diversity, and when you leave places like LA and Chicago that are so largely segregated, like I'm living in a place now where there are plenty of middle-class black people, the couples are all mixed and all this stuff, and you think like, yeah, this is what America does.
00:43:03.000I think the solution is simple and a lot of these woke people don't want to accept it.
00:43:06.000If we've already passed laws, we've outlawed blockbusting and redlining and other racist, overtly racist policies, then the solution at this point becomes class-based.
00:43:16.000If the left believes that the black community is disproportionately affected by historical racism, and they're impoverished because of it, lack of generational wealth, then instead of making race in the law, you just say, we're going to provide tax benefits, tax credits to certain families at certain levels, which we do.
00:43:33.000And then you will disproportionately benefit black families.
00:43:36.000You've got to talk about the culture too.
00:43:39.000This is the thing that gets me about conservatives here.
00:43:43.000Everybody knows in America, and this is still true to this day, if you get married before you have children, if you go to high school, if you graduate high school and then get married and then have children, you probably won't be poor.
00:44:35.000I understand, but we're talking about... Little white kids listen to Master P. I understand that, but we're talking about... They weren't coming home to good moms.
00:44:40.000Like, my friend's mom was a heroin addict.
00:44:43.000But again, we're talking about generality and statistics, right?
00:44:46.000We're not talking about the people who do that.
00:44:48.000We're saying there is this problem of crime in black communities that it's not in white.
00:44:51.000I think you're talking about class, actually, because you're talking about South Side Chicago, and it's the same as what you're talking about in the black community.
00:44:57.000So maybe it's just a it's a community issue.
00:45:00.000I think the skin color is a false flag that the consciousness of these people that are like the great-grandchildren of slaves or great-grandchildren are still poor and so they're doing crime and then because you see their skin color you're like well it's the black skin color that's involved.
00:45:15.000But at the same time, you have these left-wing activists who make it all about the skin color, and as a result of that, they forward policies that actually do end up keeping the group down as a whole.
00:45:24.000I would hang out, like, I lived in Atlanta.
00:45:27.000I lived on Normal Avenue, you know, with a Mexican community, and I would think words to people instead of speak, because I didn't speak the language, and I could integrate really nicely.
00:45:34.000And I understand what you're saying, that there's a black community.
00:45:38.000Sometimes I push back on this because I want to believe that we're all one community as a species, but it's a lot of hugging.
00:45:44.000Cooking home home meal made meals a lot of calling your mom on the phone like that's not in the white It wasn't really part of my community growing up.
00:45:51.000I mean my mom wanted us to have dinner together, but it wasn't that like Hugging love that I sensed in that community.
00:45:58.000Um, so maybe I can see that a lot of these problems exist for instance in what they now call hillbilly communities and And so, because it's the same thing, it's the same broken culture, and it's the same poverty, except they're white.
00:46:11.000So, it's definitely not skin color, it's definitely not about skin color, but it is about cultures that do tend to accrue in groups of people, right?
00:46:18.000So, you know, if I took 100 people and put them in a space capsule, they would instantly become a new race.
00:46:25.000Because they'd sleep with each other, and their children would be related, and whatever happened to them would affect them.
00:46:30.000So it is culture, but because people tend to gather together with their kind, and sometimes, as you say, are forced to gather together with their kind, those cultures are going to look like a certain way.
00:47:50.000It's indicative of a certain artist themselves, you know what I mean?
00:47:53.000But if you have a... Like look at Madonna, you know, I'm on my knees praying or whatever.
00:47:57.000Yeah, but if you have a... All I'm saying is if you're listening to that song and you have a mom and dad who treat each other nicely, It doesn't mean that much.
00:48:08.000I'm never going to go out and kneecap somebody, you know?
00:48:10.000But if you are growing up in a dysfunctional house or dysfunctional culture or dysfunctional neighborhood and you're listening to that, it may well become your standard for how you treat women.
00:48:19.000I think, you know, from where I grew up, the neighborhood I was in was very multiracial and that was a lot of the music everyone listened to.
00:48:27.000So people weren't going home to a mom and dad who were like, you know, dancing on date night.
00:49:17.000And we're on a new environment, a new horizon.
00:49:21.000And it interacts with culture, because again, I can play a violent video game, it's not going to mean a thing to me, but if you're playing it for 12 hours a day and nobody's taking care of you, it actually does mean a thing.
00:49:30.000But just to clarify, when you're referring to rap, are you referring to the content of the songs?
00:49:35.000Well, I also think the music is simplistic, but I think rock music is simplistic too, so I'm not the right person to talk to.
00:49:43.000But I do think the degraded lyrics are a problem.
00:49:47.000So that's just an issue of particular artists.
00:49:49.000Like, I mean, there's rock music that's also simplistic trash, too, you know, with bad lyrics.
00:50:03.000You know, I have to tell you, this is absolutely... My father was a fairly famous New York DJ, and he played what was called then middle-of-the-road music, which is now called the American songbook.
00:50:11.000So as a little kid, I grew up listening to Frank Sinatra and Cole Porter, Gershwin, and all this stuff.
00:50:16.000One day, my father, who knew music really well, came home and said, this new thing has come out.
00:50:43.000I listen to music on the radio sometimes, like, well now with streaming services, autoplay, and I'm just like, this song has no meaning behind it at all.
00:50:52.000It's just, but you know, take a look at Nirvana, Smells Like Teen Spirit.
00:51:01.000I find a lot of rock, I found even a lot of, I mean, I actually kind of like the Beatles, but I found a lot of their songs incomprehensible.
00:52:34.000They're the holy people who everyone knows are grifters and hacks and every normal person rolls their eyes at, but for some reason have esteem and legitimacy because they claim to be fighting for a good cause.
00:52:44.000Let me, let me pull up the story because I think regular people are waking up.
00:53:16.000Now, this is a guy who gets, you know, he does the work.
00:53:20.000And partly due to his work, and truth be told, there's many other activists who are working towards voter registration as well, we're now starting to see the tides shift.
00:53:28.000I don't think the Republican Party will be the salvation of anybody unless people vote in the primaries, and they do kind of what we're seeing up in New Hampshire with the Free State Project.
00:54:27.000This November is going to be a wipeout, I think.
00:54:29.000Unless The only thing that could stop it and it's not going to happen is Joe Biden basically saying, uh, well, you know, I think the environment matters, but the new green deal is finished.
00:54:39.000You know, if he actually turns against the left, because remember, like Obama, Biden ran as a centrist.
00:54:43.000That was the whole point of Joe Biden.
00:54:46.000And you know, one thing people forget about Obama, he was a very popular guy, obviously a very charismatic and kind of likable guy and, and people liked him.
00:54:54.000Every Democrat except him was voted out of office during his term of office, right?
00:54:58.000There was like two Democrats still working.
00:55:00.000The rest of them were, you know, at a malt shop somewhere.
00:57:54.000No, I do see how you might hear that, but I listened to that over and over again on a repeat, trying to transcribe what he said to figure it out.
00:58:32.000Cause it feels like that's where the pressure's coming from is these, we got to do what the young people want, man.
00:58:36.000I don't know what, what he's why, but it seems like he's just folding.
00:58:40.000Somebody told him, or he told himself, that with a 50-50 split in Congress, in the Senate certainly, but really across the board, he was going to become FDR.
00:58:50.000And that's just not the way politics works.
00:58:52.000It's not the way American politics works.
00:58:53.000He does not have the votes to do the things that he wanted to do, and people didn't want them done.
00:58:58.000Joe Manchin, you know it's funny, Joe Manchin actually represents a more popular point of view than AOC does.
00:59:04.000I mean if you just counted people who agreed, checked off what Manchin believes in, they would follow him.
00:59:11.000But AOC's more popular because she's pretty?
00:59:44.000You see the story that AOC, the FEC says that they failed to report a million dollars in expenses, that it seems they were funneling money, dark money, between two different organizations run by Saiket Chakrabarty?
00:59:55.000That sounds like a racist, sexist thing to say.
00:59:58.000This is, to me, the fascinating thing.
01:00:00.000I don't hear anybody talking about this.
01:00:01.000All these socialists are supported by the rich.
01:00:04.000And I wonder, does AOC ever wake up in the middle of the night and think, why are the biggest corporations on earth agreeing with me?
01:00:29.000Do you guys ever see the episode of Simpsons where?
01:00:32.000someone asks Homer to listen and he says you have my Undivided attention and then it zooms into his brain and it's a it's a it's playing you with the symbols, right?
01:00:39.000No, no, it's an old cartoon with the cow playing.
01:00:41.000Yeah, and it's the turtles banging on his chest like, doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo.
01:00:45.000I kind of imagine that when I see her like doing interviews or talking,
01:00:48.000because she's said things that are so absurd, you'd think she doesn't have access to a dictionary or
01:01:05.000Did you Google that before you said it?
01:01:07.000Another one of her greatest hits is when she was complaining about the fact that people say that universal healthcare is going to cost a lot of money.
01:01:15.000She said well, why don't people talk about all the money we're gonna save when we don't have to pay for as many funerals
01:01:18.000Yeah, you think people stop dying if we have or no, they eat more sugar because you keep them alive on Amazon
01:01:24.000Or no, what she said she saved money Yeah, it was like district because Amazon didn't move there.
01:01:30.000Why are they giving money to Amazon? They're not they're giving them a discount on taxes
01:01:33.000They would pay like so the 30 billion dollars the city would get and the job 20
01:01:39.000So it's like Amazon would pay $27 billion instead of $30 billion because they're getting a $3 billion discount.
01:01:51.000But that's actually so... And I'm going to be honest, that's not just... Opportunity costs.
01:01:55.000That's not, for as many problems as there are with AOC's thinking, socialism being one of them, that's not a unique flaw with their thinking.
01:02:01.000That's just part of the socialist ethos.
01:02:03.000This business is only here exploiting and taking advantage of our workers.
01:02:07.000The only way we benefit from them being there is by taking their money involuntarily.
01:02:11.000So from their perspective, they really did lose money on that, as absurd as that sounds.
01:02:15.000But they were either way going to take money from Amazon.
01:03:17.000They're like, well, then you're an idiot.
01:03:21.000That's like that's like when they women demand equal pay for the same sport and you go like nobody's watching the sport nobody's watching women's sports you know it's just like they will now that men are playing them but it's still and you know you get paid the money that you bring in I actually knew the people who got at the X Games.
01:03:40.000They used to pay women 10% of what the men got paid.
01:03:44.000And so this is the story as it was told to me.
01:03:46.000I actually ended up going to the X Games as an advisor or liaison or whatever with one of these organizations.
01:03:51.000So a good friend of mine was one of the top female skateboarding pros for a while.
01:03:56.000And what I was told by these people At the X Games, they would give, I think it was like $30,000 to the first place male winner.
01:04:04.000And the first place female winner would get $3,000.
01:04:07.000And when this group of, you know, parents and organizers went to Disney, to ESPN or whatever, whoever runs it, said, you're paying women 10%.
01:04:47.000There's a really interesting backstory behind it.
01:04:49.000I don't know if it's public, so I'll refrain, but that was their mentality.
01:04:53.000I think there's a decent point there, to be honest.
01:04:55.000Well, if you're going to invest in a show and you're saying the going rate for the top athletes in a division is X, You're investing hoping that you can figure out how to monetize it.
01:05:10.000If you want top athletes and you can't figure out how to sell those top athletes, then I'd argue get rid of the division outright instead of just being like... Well, that certainly would have been one answer, but I don't understand.
01:05:23.000I mean, maybe there's just less demand.
01:05:26.000I mean, if it's a problem with marketing, why don't these female skateboarders get together, rent a stadium, hire a competent marketer, and make just as much money as the men?
01:05:33.000Well, that would require tens of millions of dollars in investment they didn't have.
01:05:37.000Potentially, but they could start smaller and they'd still be generating more income than this business that is just failing to market them properly.
01:05:42.000When you come to performance-based jobs, you gotta pay people based on their performance.
01:05:45.000And if the girls can't jump as high, sorry, you're not performing as well in that environment.
01:06:13.000I never liked the Williams sisters, not because of any personal animus, but they were so strong that they kind of overwhelmed people, because I always liked the slower women's game because it's just more strategic and more interesting.
01:06:31.000So the guy who actually led the charge for women's tennis in the 80s is the same guy who was leading the same charge for women's skateboarding.
01:06:38.000So I think there's still an agreement there.
01:06:42.000I think perhaps they need to create a different structure and stop trying to just replicate men's with women and maybe make something different.
01:08:02.000Yeah, I think that's the crazy thing about it, that right now, you know, we're telling young girls to be men, to adopt the masculine role, and we're sort of ignoring the fact that having kids is a magical thing.
01:08:16.000It's beautiful, it's wonderful, and people take it for granted, and I hate how it's viewed as some sort of consolation prize.
01:08:21.000Oh, you didn't have a career, but you get to have a kid, as if your career is going to be more meaningful than creating human life.
01:08:27.000There are so many people who are infertile, who would love to be able to have a child, and they can't.
01:08:33.000And we constantly refer to this as something that we can just take for granted.
01:08:37.000In fact, we view it as a demeaning thing.
01:08:38.000Oh, you think that I should just have children?
01:08:40.000Or you think this person or these people should just be having kids?
01:08:43.000It's like, what do you mean just be having kids?
01:08:45.000It's like the most incredible thing a person can do.
01:08:47.000Let's trigger the entirety of the, the overwhelming majority of millennial Democrat women.
01:09:31.000They ran everything, they ran the town.
01:09:33.000I was a tennis player, I was in locker rooms where guys will say obnoxious things.
01:09:38.000I never heard a man diss his wife, not once.
01:09:40.000I never heard them spoken of anything with kind of awe and respect, because they built not just a home life, but they built, it's not just having the children, it's creating souls with those children.
01:09:53.000It's a remarkable thing, and those women actually were at the center of the city.
01:09:58.000The education and formation of children.
01:10:00.000It's so unbelievably important and it's this power that stay-at-home mothers have that they've been told to reject and you're right that they also serve a very important function in the community and it's not as if when they leave to have corporate careers that is filled by someone else or a different group of people.
01:10:15.000It just either isn't done at the same level or not at all.
01:10:18.000Feminists took the brags of men seriously.
01:10:46.000It said, who prefer to stay home over work?
01:10:50.000If that's what, I hope that's the correct context.
01:10:52.000It's, but in 2019, it says Gallup says record high 56% of US women prefer working to homemaking.
01:10:59.000Now, but this is the reason why I said, really, because there's social stigma involved.
01:11:04.000And, um, you know, far be it for me to say that these women are lying to polls in secret, but we also know about the secret Trump voter.
01:11:11.000That many Trump voters lied to pollsters out of fear or just distrust.
01:11:16.000I'm curious if there's a similar effect with women who would prefer to be at home with kids or if they really would just rather be working.
01:11:21.000Well, the studies do show that women have gotten increasingly unhappy.
01:12:06.000All I know is when I was, before the pandemic, when I was giving a lot of speeches at colleges, I used to start my speech by saying, listen, I'm an old guy.
01:12:59.000I have to mention my book, The Truth and Beauty, because I want everybody to buy it, but this is one of the chapters in the book is about the novel Frankenstein, which I argue is about a man usurping the power of women.
01:13:12.000They frequently said in Mary Shelley, the author actually said it's about a man usurping the power of God.
01:13:16.000I thought, no he's not, because men and women can make life, you know, they make life out of given material, but what he does is he makes a person without a mother.
01:14:29.000She's just a girl who wants to do her hair, she wants to go out on dates, you know, she's just a girl who wants to have fun, but she's the most important person because she is going to create not just this life, not just this particular person, she's going to create the person that he becomes who's willing to fight the machines.
01:14:45.000I think in order for sci-fi to really work what it has to do is touch on those kinds of timeless themes and it's a genre which is really predisposed to do so because the entire juxtaposition is this modern technology that humanity has just finally been able to come into contact with or develop Against our natural instincts which have been within us for thousands and thousands of years But so much sci-fi that you see which is done poorly Completely discounts that and it tries to hold on to this idea of like the new socialist man And even though it'll claim there will be problems with the new technology.
01:15:17.000It's never anything that deep I think one of the challenges for a lot of the woke attempts at film is they're just it seems like they're trying to create a new hero's journey, but for women and So a good example of this is Captain Marvel.
01:15:46.000That's based on Joseph Campbell's story.
01:15:49.000All of a sudden, he is learning about how his dad was a great Jedi Knight with Force powers, and he has to learn to use it, he gets a sword, and he's on this adventure, and he's a regular kid, just like you!
01:15:58.000Watching Captain Marvel was fascinating because the story there was, she was always powerful, but a man was suppressing her power, and only when she believed in herself could the power be unleashed.
01:16:10.000And I'm like, maybe they haven't figured out, maybe it's not possible, I don't know, because the story is inherently a masculine role of a fighter, adventurer, a conqueror, and maybe that doesn't work.
01:17:52.000It all turned to terror and world war.
01:17:54.000The Napoleonic Wars were 12 years of essentially a world war.
01:17:58.000And only a few people, the intellectuals didn't, just like with the fall of the Soviet Union, the intellectuals didn't want to let go of this radical dream that you could transform the world into a better place.
01:18:07.000And in the aftermath of this utter destruction, the Romantic generation was taxed with the job of recreating human consciousness.
01:18:18.000And one of the things that had fallen away, I think the central thing that had fallen away was faith.
01:18:22.000This was the first big explosion of science.
01:18:25.000People were actually becoming atheists for the first time.
01:18:28.000The first time in Christian Europe that people were actually saying maybe there is no God or at least there's no Christianity or there were deists or there's something new.
01:18:38.000And so these poets had to recreate human consciousness.
01:18:41.000If you lose God, if you lose the idea that this is God, and this is who He is, and this is what He tells me, you lose two things.
01:18:48.000You lose yourself, because yourself is not connected to anything, so it's just this kind of thing floating in space.
01:18:54.000And you lose the idea of objective truth.
01:18:56.000You lose the idea that there is some kind of moral truth.
01:18:59.000What happens is exactly what's happening now.
01:19:33.000They teach people that their inner life means nothing.
01:19:36.000Their sense of morality means nothing.
01:19:39.000On the other hand, they teach you that their inner life is absolutely sovereign.
01:19:42.000So if in the middle of this conversation you say, oh, by the way, I'm a woman.
01:19:46.000I now have to call you a woman or else I'm a hateful person for not acknowledging the sovereignty of your inner life, right?
01:19:52.000What these poets came back to, the ones I study anyway, is that your inner life is actually a collaboration with creation.
01:20:00.000It is actually the part of creation that creates.
01:20:04.000Coleridge was the guy who came up with that formulation, but a lot of them sort of said the same thing.
01:20:09.000Wordsworth called you an agent of the one great mind.
01:20:13.000And in reestablishing this connection with what they called nature, but ultimately became the spiritual meaning of nature, they actually reestablished what Jesus was talking about.
01:20:24.000You know, Jesus said things like, you can't be creative unless you're a branch of my vine.
01:20:30.000If the branch falls off, it's not going to create any fruit.
01:20:32.000It's got to be created to the source of life.
01:20:35.000And so when you start to look at the world as a collaboration of you with reality, which is the only thing that makes sense.
01:20:51.000You have to say to yourself, you have to ask yourself in all honesty, not in philosophy class, not in a conversation at two in the morning where you're drinking with your friends, in all honesty, Do you believe that it is better to give a beggar bread than to kick a child?
01:21:06.000If you can say to me, well, if everybody thinks it's right to kick a child, then kicking a child is right.
01:21:15.000And second of all, if you will acknowledge that it is better to give a beggar bread than it is to kick a child, after that you're done with whether there's objective truth or not.
01:21:45.000But the reason the book is called The Truth and Beauty It's because one of the poets, John Keats, wrote this beautiful poem which ends with the line, beauty is truth and truth is beauty.
01:21:53.000That's all you know on earth and all you need to know.
01:21:55.000And what he was saying was, you're actually a machine built for recognizing truth as beauty.
01:22:02.000Not as prettiness, not like you like red flowers and I like white flowers, but that shock that you have when you confront truth.
01:22:10.000When you say, oh, holding a slave is wrong.
01:22:57.000One of the interesting things to me about the passion story, the story of the death of Christ, is that there's no real villain in it.
01:23:04.000You can kind of pick out Judas as a betrayer, but he's killed by the church, he's killed by the government, he's killed by the people, he's killed by everybody.
01:24:00.000I mean, you know, the famous trolley question, do you let the trolley run over five people by accident or do you turn it and, do you let it run over one person by accident or do you turn it and kill five people?
01:25:15.000We know you can be wrong, so that means you can be right, right?
01:25:18.000If you can be wrong, you can be right.
01:25:20.000The problem is, the truth is, that just because there is such a thing as truth doesn't mean that you can pound your palm with your fist and declare what it is.
01:25:30.000He told stories, and that's a very complicated way.
01:25:33.000Socrates just asked questions, you know.
01:25:35.000The people who actually understand that there is such a thing as truth, and they are the two people I think on which our civilization is based, and they're the two people who both lived in a time of relativism and declared there was such a thing as truth, but neither of them said, and the truth is this.
01:25:49.000I thought Einstein also was interesting in how he kind of said, there was a God.
01:25:52.000Well, Christ said he was the way and the truth.
01:25:54.000But that's a very complex thing to say, right?
01:26:22.000You know, and you think like, okay, but would the king of heaven and earth suffer death just to tell me not to cheat on my wife?
01:26:28.000You know, my wife tells me not to cheat on her.
01:26:30.000I don't actually need God to tell me that.
01:26:32.000You know, there must be something more that he was trying to tell us.
01:26:35.000And I think he was trying to tell us That there is a way for us to collaborate with reality that is incredibly beautiful and it happens to each of us all the time.
01:26:44.000I want to ask, why is it, do you think, that among many secular atheist types, they almost have a desire to believe in random nothingness?
01:27:05.000I mean, that's kind of, you know, to use the word, to say the word out loud, it's kind of satanic that there are certain things that offer you power.
01:28:03.000Although it is obvious that some people are better at this, that are born for it.
01:28:08.000And Jesus says, one of the most painful things he says is, to those who have, even more will be given.
01:28:14.000To those who have not, even what they have will be taken away.
01:28:16.000And I think that that's what he's talking about.
01:28:18.000That some people don't feel that connection and some people just do.
01:28:22.000What really, really trips me up more than anything in terms... Let me just put it this way.
01:28:28.000Having these conversations with Michael Malice about DMT, the breaking through the veil, meeting other people on the other side, and those conversations, I think, at the very least, open the door to someone should at least be agnostic.
01:28:42.000You've heard these conversations, I'd imagine.
01:28:45.000We were talking to Michael Malice, and he was telling us stories of meeting people on the other side, communicating, and then coming back and being like, wow, how did we share these thoughts?
01:28:53.000And I'm like, well, whatever it is, I don't know, but it certainly suggests there's something beyond us, right?
01:29:41.000I mean, the science, actually, you know, it made sense for there to be atheists after Newton, you know, because you could kind of extrapolate, oh, everything's a machine.
01:29:49.000But it all turned out to be much weirder than Newton said, and now, really, there's a wonderful book about this called The Return of the God Hypothesis, where really, it's not, you know, the title sounds like it's a hippy-dippy, like, religious thing, but it's a real scientific book about why scientists are now saying, you know, There actually are, there actually is evidence of an intelligence behind creation.
01:30:12.000To me, that's the only thing that makes sense.
01:30:14.000Well, I like to simplify it, or at least explain it in sort of a way that I think most people who are secular liberal types should understand is, if, you know, we build computers.
01:30:24.000Computers act based on the rules that exist in reality and they, you know, they imitate intelligence or at least we're producing artificial intelligence.
01:30:32.000Then for me, I don't believe that the computers we've built are the final point at which computers can ever come to.
01:30:41.000But a better way to look at it is the human mind.
01:30:43.000If you were just a wet robot, well then certainly the human brain isn't the end-all be-all of computational power within a living being.
01:30:50.000Certainly there is the probability, based on the expanse of the universe and our scientific understanding, that there will be a more powerful intellect that exists beyond human comprehension.
01:31:01.000It's interesting when you, you know, C.S.
01:31:03.000Lewis had this great line, he said, even a determinist will ask you if you will please pass the salt, meaning he acknowledges that you have free will.
01:31:12.000We all know we have free will and we get talked out of it.
01:31:15.000And that would mean our entire experience of life is deception.
01:31:19.000And one of the things these poets were trying to say is, you know, your interior experience can be deceptive, but the very fact that it can be deceptive tells you that it can also be right.
01:32:00.000I mean, a pretty girl only has to sit down next to you for you to experience some of it, you know, just go into this kind of haze of lust, basically.
01:32:09.000So we all know that we can come out of that and be more realistic.
01:32:13.000So we must be moving towards something more real, you know?
01:32:16.000I was wondering, you know, I wonder if people who view themselves as atheists, or what percentage of atheists have meditated or prayed.
01:32:26.000I would imagine it'd be relatively low in terms of praying, maybe a little bit higher in terms of meditation.
01:32:32.000But I'm wondering if a lot of people just don't try to have an internal experience or something.
01:32:38.000Just a thought, because I kind of feel like... No, I completely agree with this.
01:32:42.000Yeah, you know, I grew up Catholic briefly, and my family left the church, and I've met a whole bunch of different people from all walks of life, from, you know, anarcho-punk atheist types to anarcho-punk Catholics.
01:32:55.000And they've, you know, I've heard a lot of interesting thoughts, but the one thing that really stuck with me is There is, in terms of people who are spiritual, agnostic, or believed outright, is that there was a desire to discover more.
01:33:10.000And for a lot of the atheists, it's sort of, it's kind of a tendency towards, I don't want to, I'm not trying to paint every atheist this way, was sort of determinist, sort of absolute, sort of, we aren't going to know, so I don't know what I can say to that.
01:33:24.000As opposed to like, You know, the crazy people I know who go on spirit quests and go down to South America to do ayahuasca.
01:33:30.000The people who are seeking answers and trying to find things tend to be more spiritual or believe, in my experience.
01:33:34.000Well, you know, Antonin Scalia, the Supreme Court Justice, told a great story about right outside of Washington in a church there was a statue of the Virgin Mary that began to Bleed or cry, I can't remember what it was.
01:33:45.000And he said, no reporter went out to cover this story.
01:34:28.000That's a very, first of all, it's a very brave thing to do, but it is also, it's just incredibly true that if you let go of the lies, I mean, one of the things about Christianity is the first thing that happens, I converted at the age of 50, so I'm not, you know, I'm telling you something that really happens, is that you suddenly think like, oh, I get it, I'm a worm, you know?
01:35:46.000It's just, when we have people on this show, and I'll say something passively about, say, Joe Biden's illicit dealings in Ukraine, and they'll say, oh, that's not true.
01:36:09.000But we do gotta go to- Can I just mention one more thing?
01:36:11.000So, our conversation got interrupted or disjointed.
01:36:15.000I think there are some things on the- just the Ten Commandments and the nature of spirituality that we might disagree about and can flesh out more, hopefully on the after show, because I think that would be a fascinating discussion.
01:36:22.000I'm really enjoying hearing you talking about this in the way you- I will, of course, have to burn you at the stake.
01:36:29.000I get how it goes, but it's worth a good conversation.
01:36:32.000I think I'm related to those Salem witchcrafts.
01:38:19.000Yeah, I was talking to the guys with The Daily Wire, and I said, look, we do really stupid things here over at TimCast.
01:38:24.000I don't think any traditional media business would do this, but we're working on a commercial that I want to put on networks, and I genuinely plan to have it run on Tucker Carlson.
01:38:35.000I've already talked to the ad people over at Tucker in the past, and they said, yeah, absolutely.
01:38:40.000You know, it's just, you pay for it, we run the ad.
01:38:42.000As long as it's a legitimate business, we'll do it.
01:38:57.000But, uh, it's a, it's a business item.
01:38:59.000So we can, we can have, you know, Pop Culture Crisis is doing really, really well and getting tons of views, but it's all ad revenue based.
01:39:05.000Maybe you should give them some treats.
01:41:50.000Cyrus Nerschel says, Hey, Timcast was trying to find the Spin the UFO email but couldn't find it anywhere.
01:41:56.000I've been in IT for 13 years and the DoD is active duty, government, civilian and contractor, but I would like to send in my resume if possible.
01:43:53.000Like you put on a cap and then it broadcasts into your brain, but I, I, unless we, we start, I just, I don't see surgical anything working for people because people don't like surgery.
01:44:10.000I mean, maybe when they get to the point where Neuralink can actually put you in a universe and you can be a superhero, people might be willing to do it.
01:44:17.000I don't know why you would do that if it's not real.
01:44:19.000Like, I feel the same way about ayahuasca, by the way.
01:44:21.000If, like, you can take a drug that makes you see Mickey Mouse, that doesn't mean Mickey Mouse is real.
01:44:25.000If you take a drug that makes you see God, why would that be an experience?
01:44:29.000I think of it as, like, tuning the brain frequency to see what's already there.
01:44:38.000The reason I said free the software code was because if we can free the software code of Twitter and of the neural net tool, then you can watch what it's doing algorithmically, free software code being AGPL3 as the license.
01:45:21.000And he was like, we'd love to do some kind of show with you guys, because it would be such a powerful, you know, Thing and I'm like we got a bunch of ideas for shows.
01:45:29.000We're trying to make yeah, I'd be absolutely fantastic Andrew What was it like breaking out of Hollywood?
01:45:53.000I was not a big deal but I was selling scripts routinely and if you sell two scripts, three scripts a year, which I sometimes did, you're making a lot of dough.
01:46:06.000I mean, obviously it bothered me economically.
01:46:08.000I had to sell my house and things like that.
01:46:09.000But it didn't bother me emotionally because I thought, I'm not going to live my life not saying what I mean because some fat jackass in Hollywood.
01:46:49.000I mean, he is the smartest man in the country.
01:46:52.000But I'll clarify my point because I think there may be a semantic issue.
01:46:57.000When I say systemic racism, what I'm referring to is because of things like blockbusting and redlining, you now have deeply impoverished areas in Chicago.
01:47:08.000That makes it very difficult for the people who live there to transfer wealth to their kids because homeownership is one of the principal ways by which the middle class transfers wealth to their children.
01:47:16.000Yeah, but why is it that everybody who came here got nailed in some way?
01:47:22.000Well, this was going on until the 80s.
01:48:08.000If a black doctor moved into my neighborhood, I don't think anybody would notice.
01:48:13.000You know, I mean, I literally think that would be like, you know, come on over, you know, for lunch.
01:48:19.000If like, you know, a bad guy moved in or somebody who was not, did not fit in that neighborhood economically or in terms of class, then you'd have a problem.
01:48:27.000I mean, people, you know, Helen's argument is that there was no white flight.
01:48:55.000So when I refer to systemic racism, I just mean that in the past several decades, there were overtly racist policies that made it harder for the black community and other racial minorities to transfer wealth, and now they're disproportionately impoverished based on those things, even though it's a class issue today.
01:49:09.000But again, that happened to other races.
01:50:45.000The best example that I think people should really ponder on is in New York City, gender identity is defined as self-expression in the actual laws, which means your self-expression could be a furry.
01:50:58.000But I was told by civil rights lawyers, three different ones, when I investigated this, that if you tried claiming a furry as your identity and you wore the outfit and you used the name, you'd be laughed out of the courtroom.
01:51:12.000But I said, if the law says you can't be discriminated based on the clothes you wear, the name you give yourself, or your self-expression, why is it different for a furry and a transgender person?
01:51:22.000And they said, because most people understand what gender dysphoria is in a trans person, and furries would not be considered serious.
01:51:27.000And I said, that's a cultural issue, not a legal distinction.
01:51:30.000So it's really about cultural enforcement and what our culture is willing to tolerate.
01:51:34.000Well, that's one of the problems, like when the Supreme Court had that ruling that laws protecting people according to sex, against sex discrimination, covered transgenderism.
01:51:44.000Because if you walk into work in a dress, you're essentially being penalized for being a man.
01:52:19.000I mean, like, you know, I do think I do think that when you're a bad guy and you resist arrest and you get killed, it's true that even if the cop did it wrong, which I do think happened with Floyd.
01:52:35.000I don't have that much sympathy for you.
01:52:37.000You're still a guy who held a gun to a pregnant woman while your friends ransacked her house.
01:52:46.000I think the issue for me is these cities have a bunch of Democrats who vote for Democrats, who appoint Democrat police leadership, who are crooked and corrupt, and then the Democrats complain about the people that they voted for.
01:52:59.000You don't hear about these problems in mostly conservative rural areas.
01:53:03.000It is amazing that in San Francisco, where I lived many, many years ago, and it was one of the most beautiful cities I've ever been in, it's now a hellhole.
01:53:11.000It's amazing to me, A, that Republicans don't run, mount a campaign that would appeal to San Franciscans, and B, that San Franciscans don't say, you know what?
01:53:19.000We keep electing the same party and things get worse and worse and worse.
01:53:28.000Is it seeded propaganda, or did they used to be?
01:53:31.000No, I think the... After Reagan, there was a coalition of conservatives, some of whom were evangelical, and they were very strongly anti-gay.
01:53:40.000You know, they very strongly felt that this was a bad thing, biblically, and they couldn't defend it in law.
01:53:47.000They couldn't say to themselves, well, this may be a sin, but that's between them and God.
01:53:51.000Or, you know, they just couldn't get there.
01:53:53.000It was very, very much You know, in keeping with their religion and their way of life.
01:54:02.000I remember when I first became a conservative, which is now back around 2000, you know, and Andrew Breitbart said to me, I want you to become part of this movement.
01:54:10.000And I said, I'm going to become part of the movement, but I don't want to hear about the gay stuff because we're wrong.
01:54:16.000You've got to let people live their lives.
01:54:20.000I don't know how much I can say on the air here, what your standards and practices are, but Andrew's response was basically, I want there to be more pro-American gay pornography.
01:54:34.000I think that what basically happened is you had a lot of Christian conservatives, and not just Christian conservatives, but most of the country at the time, which was saying that marriage is defined as between a man and a woman and federally funded marriage contracts shouldn't change that definition because it's not within the purview of the government.
01:54:47.000And so what the left said As a result of that and in response to that was the only explanation for that attitude is hating gay people.
01:55:53.000Jacob Manning says, I'm not one to give away my hard earned money, but Tim, since you brought the other half of the first two people that woke up to reality, I'll make an exception.
01:56:01.000Thank you both for what you do and helping me laugh my way through the fall of the Republic.
01:57:12.000Simulated Dave says, Tim, if you're serious about DW Entertainment envy, I'd love to discuss my short film Crit from 2020 exploring the signatories of the Polanski petition, hoping to encourage conviction in withholding cash from Hollywood.
01:57:25.000You can always email spintheufo at gmail.com.
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01:59:59.000Andrew, in the song Handlebars by Flowbots, in the music video at the end, there's a guy challenging an authoritarian regime, and all of the jackboot cops banging their shields have Black Lives Matter on their shields.
02:00:10.000And the song's from, because it's the Communist Fist, it's the Red Salute, but the song is from, I think, like, what is it, 13 years ago or something?
02:00:17.000So, they make this song, and the bad guys have the Communist Fist, which is now the BLM Fist, and they're killing people, and that's basically what the song is saying, that these people are like, I can do whatever I want, no one can stop me.
02:00:29.000Since everybody's telling me what rap music is, I want to tell you what to listen to, alright?
02:00:33.000You should go out and get two albums, if that's what they call them.
02:00:39.000One is Ella and Louie, and the other is Ella and Louie again.
02:00:50.000So, there's some pop songs I might be like, oh yeah, sure, it's fun to play.
02:00:54.000But I really do like songs that have a message.
02:00:58.000I've always been critical my whole life of music that was meaningless.
02:01:02.000I grew up listening to a lot of punk stuff.
02:01:04.000It started with pop punk and then I listened to more actual punk stuff and then started listening to more independent music and things like that.
02:01:48.000Brayden says, y'all should have all guests roll the 100 die and rank them all on a leaderboard, almost like old Top Gear celebrity racetrack laps.
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