Join us live from the congressional offices of Congresswoman Lauren Boebert (R-Colorado) as she sits down with us to talk about a variety of topics, including the State of the Union, the Elon Musk hearing, and much more.
00:05:25.000Well, you know, when, gosh, Joe Biden was going to completely skip over the 13 American heroes who died on his watch in Afghanistan, and I wasn't going to let that happen.
00:05:37.000And so I was sure to remind him that he sent them home in flag-draped coffins, 13 of them.
00:05:44.000And even his press secretary at the time, his spin doctor, Jen Psaki, she came on the next day to say that he didn't have time to talk about them.
00:05:52.000And he said, you know, that's really evident, actually, because he didn't have time for
00:05:55.000them when they were brought home to Dover, either.
00:06:30.000And we left $86 billion in military equipment, the finest military equipment in the world, right there in the hands of the Taliban.
00:06:37.000You know, I think rather than sending Ukraine $110 billion, we should be going and getting that military equipment instead of sending Ukraine tanks and the fighter jets that they're wanting.
00:07:00.000Okay, well, look, ladies and gentlemen, as I stated, we rushed down to DC, it's like an hour and ten or so minutes drive, and then Serge and Andrew quickly put this whole thing together.
00:07:10.000Everybody can hear Ian and Hannah Claire in the headsets, but for some reason it's not coming through to you guys.
00:07:14.000But we're going to have a—either way, it'll be fun, because not only do we have Congresswoman Lauren Boebert sitting right here, taking Ian's seat for the time being, but Jim Jordan's coming down.
00:07:27.000So we'll just talk about all this stuff.
00:07:29.000And it's going to be somewhat different from how we normally do things, because normally we do segments, we have clips, we have articles and stuff to pull up.
00:07:36.000But I think for now, considering the technical difficulties, we should just talk.
00:08:44.000You know, he didn't mention people are smuggling eggs over the Mexican border.
00:08:47.000But he said a lot of, don't worry, we will do things in the future.
00:08:51.000His party has been in power for the past two years, and they've done nothing but destroy our country and make it worse and increase inflation and open our borders.
00:09:03.000You know, we're battling this in committee right now on natural resources and oversight.
00:09:07.000Democrats are saying, you know, we want to work to do this.
00:09:10.000We want to work to secure the border and have immigration reform.
00:09:13.000Well, why didn't you do any of it in the last two years?
00:09:16.000You had every ability to pass whatever you wanted, and you didn't.
00:09:20.000And Tim, I kind of wish I would have had his script, because Matt Gaetz and I were sitting together on the House floor, and we were wishing that Joe Biden would just turn around the teleprompter so we could read it ourselves, because half the time we were saying, what did he just say?
00:09:35.000There was a crazy point where he said, you could see in the closed caption, he said, if Republicans try to raise the cost of prescription drugs, I will veto it.
00:09:43.000But what he actually said was, if Republicans try to raise the cost of prescription drugs, I'll veto it!
00:09:48.000And the Democrats all stood up and started clapping for it.
00:09:50.000And I was like, what are they clapping for?
00:09:56.000Well, see, what y'all couldn't see were the applause lights flashing.
00:10:03.000Yeah, but let me ask you about one of the most contentious moments.
00:10:08.000He said that Republicans want to do away with Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and then immediately the Republicans start booing and saying no.
00:10:15.000I can say from what I've seen from the speeches and from the news reports, that's not true, and I can only assume he's lying on purpose for political power.
00:10:23.000Right, because they saw how effective this was when Paul Ryan started talking about Social Security and Medicare.
00:10:29.000And, you know, he's pushing Granny off a hill.
00:11:33.000Well, it's because the roosters can be a little rough, you know, when they take what they want.
00:11:37.000But no, now we're dealing with an egg and chicken shortage, which has been coming in and out, actually.
00:11:42.000And what I'm hearing from a lot of the more liberal people is that, well, no, this is caused by the avian flu, which doesn't explain why people are smuggling eggs from Mexico into the United States, which is more indicative of a policy problem that's not being taken care of or fixed.
00:11:55.000So... Oh, is that... Are we getting somewhere?
00:11:59.000But in that regard, I guess my question for you is, what do you think should be done right now that would help lower the cost of food, maybe increase wages?
00:12:07.000What are some economic ideas that you think the Republicans could implement?
00:12:10.000I mean, obviously, we're working on the spending.
00:12:12.000There's been reckless spending here in Washington, D.C.
00:12:16.000And rightfully, both parties are to blame for that.
00:12:21.000But the past two years, it's just been absolute out of control spending.
00:12:25.000Whatever you want, you get a stimulus check.
00:12:27.000And we're increasing all of these spending bills by trillions of dollars.
00:12:33.000We're given less than 24 hours to actually read the bills before we vote on them.
00:14:17.000The entire Republican Party just erupted in laughter at him.
00:14:23.000So he did campaign on canceling fossil fuels, and he did it on day one.
00:14:29.000On day one, there was all of these executive orders that came out, moratoriums on leases on federal lands and ending fracking in Colorado's
00:15:27.000That if right now they're telling you in the next five years we will not be able to meet demand because transportation will be unavailable, that means supply will be constrained.
00:15:36.000This causes people to speculate the prices are going to go up, which causes the immediate effect of them buying as much as possible, which drives prices up.
00:15:43.000So it's all interconnected and I wish it was much simpler than this, but I can put it simply when you've got California, Oregon, Washington saying we're to ban gas cars.
00:15:51.000Yeah, their agenda is clearly aligned with shutting down fossil fuels because they're concerned about climate change.
00:15:57.000I mean, if they're concerned about this stuff, I get it.
00:15:59.000I think, you know, there's pollution, pollution bad, and all this stuff.
00:16:02.000But this idea that we get from the more extreme elements of this movement, notably Greta Thunberg, Which is, she outright said, we want to shut down fossil fuels now.
00:16:54.000But if carbon emissions, if that's your problem, well then let's manage our forests.
00:17:00.000Because one catastrophic wildfire emits more carbon emissions in a few short days than every vehicle in my state of Colorado running 24-7 for an entire year.
00:17:07.000You know, I don't know if it's coming through on YouTube, nothing?
00:17:23.000And it's going to become competition for the carbon in the air. The Chinese CCP is going to start attempting to strip
00:17:28.000it out faster than we can, so if we don't work together...
00:17:32.000Hi everyone! Hi, can you hear me? Tell me. Good. Please, you can hear me.
00:17:37.000No, I don't... It's just proof of life.
00:17:41.000Well, so, you know, look, I understand people are concerned about carbon emissions, and I think there's like a rudimentary—there's something basic that people can understand in The more people you have, the more energy you consume, the more waste products are produced, the more pollution you get.
00:18:01.000And I think the simplest, the best way it's been explained by a lot of conservatives is we must be good stewards of the earth.
00:19:54.000When you hear stories about dead zones in the Gulf of Mexico where life can't exist, when you hear about the mercury levels in our fish, I'm like, hey, these things sound really, really bad.
00:20:04.000I would like to have ecological balance.
00:20:43.000And I'm just kind of like, well, does he really care about this?
00:20:46.000Because if what he and all the rest of them are saying is true, does he not care that he's spending $10 million on property that'll be worthless soon?
00:20:56.000You know, I was wondering why AOC got so worked up over Ilhan Omar not being able to serve on a certain committee when the world's going to end in six years anyway.
00:21:05.000Yeah, they tend to keep saying this and then people just end up not wanting to believe it, which is... Did you guys figure it out?
00:21:10.000I don't know, I just turned it off and on.
00:21:55.000What's it like between, you know, the Freedom Caucus or just you personally and squad members?
00:22:01.000Well, I mean, I don't have a relationship with them.
00:22:03.000You know, there were some things that obviously, you know, we kind of sided with them on some of the issues when we were in the minority because they were trying to kick against their party.
00:22:17.000And, you know, it's really hard to To take anything these guys say seriously because everything out of their mouth starts with MAGA Republicans did this and January 6th and insurrectionists and you know all of this rhetoric instead of actually just talking policy and talking solutions.
00:22:33.000They were saying that today's Twitter file hearings regarding The Hunter Biden laptop that was suppressed by Twitter, by these Twitter executives, that was a waste of time and that we need to move on.
00:22:46.000How is defending free speech and holding people to account a waste of anyone's time?
00:22:52.000We are the Oversight and Accountability Committee.
00:22:54.000We are there to have congressional oversight.
00:22:56.000We believe that there was collusion between the federal government and with Twitter, with big tech.
00:23:04.000And so we were having congressional oversight into what actually happened.
00:23:08.000Was there collusion with the federal government and these companies?
00:23:12.000And then I expect accountability to come out of this as well.
00:23:16.000Yeah, I think it's because it benefits their party.
00:23:48.000Why does she why is she I guess, you know, my I'll put it this way.
00:23:53.000When we walked into the office, I saw you on the live TV talking about illegal immigrants voting
00:23:59.000in D.C. And I thought to myself, how did something like that become partisan?
00:24:04.000How is it that there are issues that are so obvious?
00:24:07.000A big corporation, a multinational corporation with billionaire foreign investors, at the time, Elon Musk now has taken over and we can make an argument about that, but at the time you had foreign investors and foreign interests involved in a multinational corporation that was suppressing the speech of not just conservatives, though mostly conservatives, but even some anti-war leftists got caught up in this.
00:24:27.000Yet, they are completely like, no, no, no, who cares, who cares, everybody, nothing to see here.
00:24:33.000And I'm just confused as to how that's a left or right issue.
00:25:33.000I definitely want to go back to the immigration thing too, but in terms of like the Twitter stuff, we've invited often many people on this show who are more left-leaning and only a very small number of them actually come on, but there's one thing that's consistent every time they do, they don't know what they're talking about.
00:25:50.000And I mean that with all due respect. I think the most well-read individual we've had on the show
00:25:55.000is Vosch. I'm not sure if you're familiar with him. He's a YouTuber. He's a socialist guy.
00:26:00.000And there was a lot he didn't know, but there was a lot he did know. And I can respect that.
00:26:03.000I just think he's wrong on his opinions, socialism, etc.
00:26:06.000But we had people on who I asked them about Ukraine. I asked them about issues at the
00:26:11.000border, and they literally don't know what's going on.
00:26:14.000You ask them, remember when Donald Trump said coyotes are coming across the border?
00:26:25.000How do you debate someone in Congress?
00:26:26.000How do you pass a bill when you say, hey, coyotes are bad, and they go, animals?
00:26:32.000Right, because most of this is a facade.
00:26:36.000You have 25-year-old staffers give you your talking points, you go down, you read them at the mic, and then you leave when you're done and you vote the way your party tells you how you're wrecked.
00:26:46.000A lot of members don't talk about the legislation that they're voting on before they vote on it.
00:26:51.000They go down there and say, Is this a yes or a no?
00:26:56.000You have the majority, you get it passed.
00:26:59.000Now, I do think that the way that we have changed the way Congress operates, that that did kind of help that a little bit.
00:27:07.000And members have to pay attention to what they're doing.
00:27:11.000And even the party has to pay attention to what we are wanting, because they've seen that any five members at any time can take down a bill, can take down a rule.
00:27:19.000And so they have to pay attention more and have more communication and dialogue.
00:27:27.000I feel like, you know, when I was younger and I started learning more about Congress and politics, Ron Paul was getting very, very popular, you know, end of the 2000s.
00:27:36.000And it's because he's a very libertarian guy.
00:27:38.000He talks about personal responsibility and things like that.
00:27:43.000The point I made at the time was, Look, you know, I may not agree with him on some of his more conservative viewpoints and religious viewpoints, but then he comes and says, yeah, but I'll leave you alone.
00:27:52.000And I'm like, oh, OK, you know, I can support that.
00:28:19.000He and I co-chair the Second Amendment Caucus together.
00:28:22.000But he wants to limit the federal government, limit spending, and make sure Americans are still free.
00:28:29.000So let's go back to the Twitter stuff.
00:28:31.000The reason I brought up Ron Paul was because at the beginning of this big social media push we saw that Ron Paul love revolution thing.
00:28:39.000And I kind of feel like many members of Congress today that we like, Freedom Caucus types or the people who stood up against the establishment who refused to vote for Kevin McCarthy, we had a good laugh about that.
00:28:50.000It seems like A lot of this may have been inspired by that time, by that,
00:28:57.000So it got me thinking about that with social media today and the manipulation of big tech
00:29:03.000and the censorship of ideas. When we have people on the show and they don't know what's going on,
00:29:07.000what we're talking about, like this is the problem. AOC goes up before these executives
00:29:14.000and outright says this was a 24, what did you call it, a 24-hour mistake or something on Twitter
00:29:20.000that doesn't matter and we're wasting public resources. She said that libs of tick tock
00:29:25.000spread lies about the Boston children's hospital providing hysterectomies.
00:29:29.000However, on their own website, there was a video, or I should say this, there is a video of a woman from the Boston Children's Hospital explaining what a hysterectomy is, and they say on their website that, or it's been reportedly, as people have been sharing, they provided hysterectomies to adolescents.
00:29:46.000Now AOC doesn't know that, or she's lying.
00:29:49.000I guess I'll ask you, do you think she's lying or do you think she just doesn't know?
00:29:52.000I think she's saying what she was told to say.
00:29:57.000Whether it's an outright lie or doesn't want to believe the truth, doesn't want to hear something else, this is what she has heard and that is what she is regurgitating.
00:30:11.000Or you can pull the chair up and we can swing the mic over.
00:30:14.000Yep, or you can pull a chair up and we can swing the mic over.
00:30:17.000We might, because we're going to have two people at a time, that's the plan, so maybe we can let you in.
00:30:21.000But, yeah, so there's no audio coming through when you talk.
00:30:24.000But I guess we'll just keep going unless you want to pull up a chair.
00:30:27.000So I can hear Ian talking, but I can see on the monitor they are not going into YouTube.
00:30:34.000The soundboard is not delivering their microphones to the computer.
00:30:37.000So one option is to... I know exactly what the problem is, but there's no way to fix it in real time.
00:30:45.000It's an issue we've dealt with with new computers before, where you have to change a stereo mono setting or something like this, because there's two channels, but the board is...
00:30:54.000The board is only delivering one of its channels to the computer, which is why we're not getting audio from the other microphones.
00:31:17.000One thing that we've talked about in the show is cultural decay, the dark direction this country is headed if we can't solve this.
00:31:25.000But the way I've described it is, if you have a person who has become hypoxic, low oxygen in the brain, they can't think straight.
00:31:37.000They will not be able to right themselves to save themselves.
00:31:39.000So that's why when you're on an airplane, they say, put on your own oxygen mask before the person next to you.
00:31:44.000If half of our country is effectively hypoxic due to bad information, lies, and fake news from the media, so they're not thinking clearly, but they're still voting, how is this country supposed to right itself when one lobe has been, you know, starved of oxygen?
00:32:02.000Yes, that's why it is so important for us to have these hearings and investigations.
00:32:06.000Look, we don't have the Senate, we don't have the White House, but we do have the House.
00:32:11.000We have oversight capabilities so we can begin to expose this truth, expose the mainstream media, expose big tech and what they have been doing and how they have been lying to the American people, what they've been covering up, the lull Um, that has been created by the narrative that they push, um, by, by the rhetoric, um, that, uh, they allow and then by, by the information that they suppress.
00:32:34.000So that's why we are doing this in oversight.
00:32:36.000So we can get that truth out to the American people because so many people do just listen to what they're told on TV, on, on, on Twitter, on social media and move on with their day.
00:32:47.000Uh, so it's so important for people to know the truth was hidden from you on purpose.
00:32:54.000It's such a challenge every day to try and convince someone they're being lied to when they don't want to believe they're being lied to.
00:33:02.000No one wants to believe they're being lied to.
00:33:04.000You want to think that you have control of your life, that people are trustworthy, that you can engage in these conversations and watch the news and be accurate and factual and go on with your day.
00:33:16.000But I mean, the truth is, if you watch the news, you're misinformed, and if you don't, you're uninformed.
00:33:22.000Yep, think about it ideologically when I mentioned, you know, when we were talking about the non-citizens and illegal immigrants voting.
00:33:28.000It's not just in DC, I mean New York has been, various parts of New York have been talking about it, various parts of California.
00:33:35.000That to me shows there is a I don't know, it feels like the ship we're on has hit the iceberg, the Titanic has hit the iceberg, and it's sinking.
00:33:43.000You cannot have a country if there's no borders, quite literally.
00:33:46.000So we've actually talked about the definition of a country versus a nation, and I think a country requires sovereign borders that determine its jurisdiction or something to that effect, and a nation is a reference to culture and people.
00:33:58.000But look, we've got people pouring across the border to the point where We can't track them.
00:34:05.000There was just in Arizona, on the southern border, a man shot an illegal immigrant.
00:34:09.000They charged him with first-degree murder.
00:34:11.000So we have people entering this country.
00:34:13.000We have children dying in the desert and in rivers because it's an extremely dangerous trip that's being encouraged effectively by the Biden administration and by various NGOs.
00:34:21.000And then you have various parts of the country saying, let them vote.
00:34:56.000They want the system to fail because they hate the system.
00:34:59.000They hate everything that our country was founded on, and they want to start over.
00:35:03.000So, I mean, this is no surprise that they're wanting everything to be different.
00:35:09.000It's going to take eight to ten years just to process the people who came into our country illegally last year.
00:35:14.000What about the ones who are coming into our country this year?
00:35:16.000So all of this is to create chaos, to dismantle the system, and, you know, I could call their policies a failure, but truly they're a success because this is their intent.
00:35:29.000Yeah, I think what's happening is the chaos that they're trying to sow is essentially the end of the liberal economic order after World War II.
00:35:36.000The British and the French and the Americans were like, 1949, we're going to build this empire to prevent World War III.
00:37:15.000So to wrap it all together, I'm a bit pessimistic in can we inform people and get the right vote when we have two things going on.
00:37:25.000One, these people, you look at what Adam Schiff did with the whole Russiagate stuff, with releasing private phone records, I mean some real dark and evil stuff.
00:37:35.000When Donald Trump, I believe, stumbled upon the Ukrainegate scandal with Joe Biden and the billion dollars and firing the prosecutor, they immediately blamed him for what Joe Biden did and then impeached him.
00:38:00.000I suppose Republicans could launch a massive ballot harvesting campaign.
00:38:03.000And if that's the case, then I'm not sure standing up and educating people matters as much as just knocking on their door and saying, fill it out.
00:38:34.000My district's always been very conservative and you know won by 546 votes so we have to start playing by their games but you know I agree with you.
00:39:22.000We want to find ways to make life better for everybody.
00:39:25.000But it seems like the policy positions that they put forward do the opposite.
00:39:29.000I talk often about why it is that in big cities, typically they're run by Democrats, typically crime is through the roof.
00:39:35.000And then we literally watch throughout the past several years, crime getting worse in these cities as they release more criminals.
00:39:41.000Now you've got, there was this viral video out of New York where, it wasn't a viral video, it was a viral story where a meteorologist was mercilessly beaten by teenagers.
00:39:49.000And the city said, we will not criminally charge these teenagers.
00:39:52.000And I'm just like, Are they trying to destroy or do they just not care and they're extracting as much as they can as the whole thing crumbles?
00:40:04.000They want to run things their way and they know they have to completely blow it up to be able to reconstruct whatever it is that they're seeing their utopia as.
00:40:23.000But what's happening is they're printing it in the guise of modern monetary theory, MMT, because they think if they print enough, you've got to reinvest it in infrastructure.
00:40:29.000The thing that they're doing is they didn't put it in infrastructure.
00:40:33.000They just put in people's bank accounts.
00:40:34.000So they're actually building like factories that will produce the product to make up for the lost money.
00:41:21.000We were over here in Texas, at the gun range in Texas, and so I was looking at the Wall of Fame, and I was like, dang, I don't take enough pictures with Boebert.
00:41:29.000And I was like, oh shoot, I made the Wall of Fame in the corner!
00:43:39.000The truth of the matter is, is that if long body citizens had the ability to possess firearms with minimal restrictions, minimal restrictions, no restrictions, what you would see is the criminal element would understand.
00:44:03.000But when the criminal element understands that the politicians restrict gun ownership to the degree where normal people feel it's taboo and it's the wrong thing to do, it actually empowers the criminal element.
00:44:15.000It's kind of sad because that's, I just feel like, common sense obvious.
00:44:19.000I've heard it a million times throughout my life.
00:44:22.000That an unarmed society is a polite society.
00:44:24.000If people in the cities were armed, then criminals would be scared of them because you have equal force to be used against you.
00:44:30.000But it doesn't seem to get through to these gun control advocates.
00:44:33.000And now we have Joe Biden coming out with the, what was his slogan?
00:44:55.000How do you affect change in a positive direction through a logical lens to make things better if your political opponents don't know what they're talking about?
00:45:04.000Well, the first part is, you know, I always go back to Gladiator.
00:45:07.000I'm going to date myself a little bit.
00:46:13.000So it ends up becoming people deciding to engage in politics and policy of their own volition, of their own passions.
00:46:21.000And the nut, I think that, you know, I guess the new, the new age myself, Bobert and others, Gates and others that we're trying to crack is, Is there the possibility to get your average American to look at our arguments and be like, you know what?
00:47:31.000So you're a little kid, and you're seeing nothing but this for 10 years.
00:47:36.00010 years later, you're 18, you're ready to vote.
00:47:38.000Your whole world is shaped around this idea that police are going around mercilessly murdering people and targeting black people, and it's just an extreme insane exaggeration built by social media manipulation.
00:47:50.000So as much as the internet's empowered the ability of conservatives who tended to have
00:47:54.000a bad message, bad messaging, or were locked out from the media, you end up with people who are
00:47:59.000living in a deranged state, like Trump derangement syndrome from this stuff. Like how do you reach
00:48:03.000these people? And I mean, how do you, it feels like the country's bifurcated the point where,
00:48:09.000to put it another way, you've got the West Coast wanted to ban gas vehicles. You've got some states
00:48:15.000banning child sex change operations, some states becoming sanctuaries for child sex
00:48:19.000I don't see how you pull that stuff together.
00:48:20.000How do you bring these cultures back together?
00:48:22.000I mean, look, it's very difficult, but that's where programs like yours come in, you know?
00:48:26.000I mean, Bobert was like, hey, Byron, you gotta come in and do this podcast tonight.
00:48:30.000I said, you know, whose podcast are we doing?
00:48:32.000She's like, I'm gonna tell you about them, it's great.
00:48:34.000I said, alright, cool, I'm in, I'm gonna do it.
00:49:14.000So I try to tell my colleagues, I'm like, guys, don't get me wrong, doing interviews is cool, but there's a whole nother ecosystem you have to penetrate.
00:49:33.000It's not just saying, oh, I went on, and this is no disrespect to Sean Hannity, love the dude, good dude, but it's not just doing a Hannity prime time hit.
00:49:41.000It's are you in a rapid fire response, pushing narratives, pushing messages, what's actually happening, being able to explain the thing in 90 seconds.
00:50:08.000How do you get through a deep conversation to break down the issues that are negatively impacting this country if they're like, your five minutes begins now, good luck?
00:50:18.000Well, that's why I try to change the rules.
00:50:20.000So what I've been talking to the chairman and to the speaker was, we got to get out of this mindset of every member is recognized for five minutes.
00:51:31.000Because Congress is fixated on doing your clip for a newsreel that might show up in one of the network news shows at night or maybe the New York Times might report on it or the Philadelphia Inquirer or whatever or the LA Times.
00:52:20.000Is that why in Congress, because people are getting, like, basically bribed by, you know, pharmaceutical companies, whoever, they're, what do they call them, lobbyists, that they actually feel like you're threatening their money if you're passing a bill that denies their lobbyists?
00:52:33.000No, no, no, no, that's not even it, because the truth is about lobbyists is they're going to write you a check regardless.
00:52:39.000What a lobbyist really wants is access.
00:52:41.000They want to be able to be like, look, if I pass you a $5,000 check, if I call your staff or if I, if I happen to have your cell phone, will you answer my call and give me an opportunity to explain myself?
00:52:53.000Lobbyists are counting votes, which also is what leadership in both chambers is doing.
00:53:57.000And because we talk football, we have an ability to engage each other if there's something popping up where a conversation needs to be had.
00:54:06.000With the squad members, For everybody who says, oh, Freedom Caucus members are always causing problems in Republican leadership, squad members cause problems in Democrat leadership.
00:54:16.000They do the same thing on the other side, but our politics are so different.
00:54:21.000That's why people think we're always at odds with them.
00:54:23.000They seem to be marching more in lockstep with the rest of the party these days, though, especially when it comes to war.
00:54:29.000I would argue that what they've done on their side is they've gotten their party to march in lockstep with them.
00:55:22.000Then you get the response from the conservatives saying she wasn't even in the Capitol building.
00:55:26.000Then you get the response from the media saying, yeah, but they're all connected.
00:55:29.000Then I looked at this and I was like, her story took place an hour before the Capitol was even breached.
00:55:34.000Why would she hide in the bathroom thinking someone was coming for her unless she knew in advance people were going to break into the building?
00:55:41.000Well, I mean, look, she, you know, she lives by the drama code of politics.
00:55:45.000You know, it's like the other thing where she was at the protest in front of the Supreme Court, and she tried to fake like she got arrested.
00:55:52.000Yeah, she put her hands behind her back.
00:55:54.000She put her hands behind her back and raised her hand.
00:55:55.000I'm like, come on, sis, you ain't getting no cuffs on you.
00:55:58.000Because if you did, you couldn't, you know, it's stuff like that.
00:56:00.000So she lives by the drama of politics.
00:56:56.000So what's happened in the Democrat caucus is the reason why it appears that the squad just kind of goes along, they've actually moved their caucus on a myriad of issues.
00:57:06.000Bro, they're out here talking about how it's cool to transgender kids.
00:57:12.000Joe Biden, that was not his position a decade ago, I promise you that.
00:57:16.000But the reason why he's gotta be cool with that now is because that is where the base of his party has gone, in part because of members like the Squad and activists in the Democrat base.
00:57:52.000But when I tell regular people this, and we live and work about a half an hour away from where that big Loudoun County fight was happening with these schools, they say, that's not true.
00:58:03.000I say, here is a physical copy of the book, open it up.
00:58:06.000They look at it and they say, this had to have been one school.
00:58:09.000And so what you end up with is people like the squad.
00:58:12.000People in their activist base, which I believe represents a very small percentage of this country, who are advocating for extremist policies, either open borders, abolishing private healthcare, child sex change operations, things like that.
00:58:25.000And when you talk to regular Americans, they don't believe it's actually happening.
00:58:42.000And so one of the things when Scott Brown got elected in Massachusetts, the reason why Nancy Pelosi just pushed for Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act as was, is because she understood That if they did the push for a public option, it would have completely blown up the bill and there would be no Obamacare.
00:59:02.000So her position was, let's just get the thing we got right now because we can't send it back to the Senate because we don't have 60 votes anymore.
00:59:32.000Bernie Sanders campaigned during the 2020 election primaries, not on creating a private and public multifaceted system, but outright abolishing all private healthcare, which has never—it's not even—like, all the countries they tout in Europe, they have both.
01:00:34.000And that's cool because you want to save a life, save a life.
01:00:36.000But when people eat themselves into sickness and then expect the taxpayer to cover their injections of random Pfizer drugs, I'm not into it.
01:00:44.000I don't want to pay for people to eat sickness.
01:00:46.000Like, sugar is horrible for your body if you overdose on that stuff.
01:03:17.000I can't remember the name of the individual who chatted us, but he said he's referring to jamming the knife in the back of the gasping corpse of the economy.
01:03:53.000But when you look at the policy outcomes of where they want to take us, that's only because the only way you can fundamentally make changes in our economy, which is the best by far the best in the history of the world, is you have to make it so hard.
01:04:08.000To earn money, you have to make it so difficult to keep wealth that there has to be some fix from Washington D.C.
01:04:19.000And the fix is only more control up here with people who, frankly, with all due respect to my colleagues, they don't have the intellect to manage your life.
01:04:39.000But what the trick is, is they're not investing the money in infrastructure programs, production and things.
01:04:44.000That's monetary theory, is that you put, you print 10 trillion dollars, you put it into factories so that you start producing goods that are worth more than the 10 trillion.
01:04:53.000They're not producing the things, they're just putting it in bank accounts.
01:04:56.000Look, let me keep it real simple about modern monetary.
01:04:59.000For every one of your listeners that's got a little brother or little sister, let them just spend whatever they want regardless of how much money's in the family's bank account.
01:06:12.000He is the guy that myself, Boebert, and so many of us have watched on TV and in committee hearings, grilling the Democrats day after day after day.
01:06:22.000This is one of the forerunners of the conservative movement in our country, my good friend, the Honorable, from Ohio, Jim Jordan.
01:07:18.000She's had to come out yelling to get the fox away because, you know, she had started with, what, nine and she's down to five, but we still get plenty of eggs each.
01:07:48.000I want to ask you this one question and then I'm going to turn it over because I'm not an interviewer.
01:07:53.000I answer too many questions these days.
01:07:56.000My question for you, And I've never asked you this question.
01:08:03.000What was the thing, what was the aha moment that made you realize that conservatism was the path forward for the country?
01:08:13.000I mean, I was raised in a conservative family, although my dad was a Democrat.
01:08:16.000He was a union worker for General Motors, and like a lot of Americans in 1980, decided enough of this Democrat stuff, he's going to vote for the Reagan guy.
01:08:25.000But raised in a conservative, kind of Christian home, but for me it's probably athletics, you know?
01:08:31.000The idea in America is, you know, you set a goal, you work hard, and you try to accomplish things, and that seemed to fit with conservatism.
01:08:37.000And my background is a sport of wrestling.
01:08:38.000I wanted to play football, but I'm five, seven and a half on a good day, so I had to wrestle.
01:08:43.000But yeah, it's probably wrestling, because it's all about competition.
01:08:46.000I think it's one of the problems in the country today is people, you don't have people competing.
01:08:52.000And frankly, I don't think you have enough people just involved in being tough.
01:08:55.000No one gets in a fight in school anymore.
01:08:56.000You don't have enough kids playing football or wrestling.
01:08:59.000So it probably came from my background in the sport of wrestling, because I started when I was in third grade and did it for the longest time.
01:09:08.000Did you want to be a professional wrestler, Jim?
01:09:10.000No, there's no real professional wrestling and amateur wrestling.
01:09:43.000I'm bigger than most of the dudes on the roster.
01:09:45.000I got pictures with Big E who was a WWE champion at the time before he broke his neck because somebody did a suplex and they messed him up.
01:09:52.000Hopefully, you know, shout to Big E. Hopefully he comes back.
01:09:56.000But I took a picture with the Money in the Bank briefcase.
01:09:59.000I got a picture with it, and I'm like three inches taller, and I'm like thicker than him, and I'm like, oh, I could do this.
01:10:04.000The only WWE people I know are the ones who are in real wrestling.
01:10:08.000Gable Stevenson was three-time NCAA champion and Olympic champ, and now he's winning WWE and doing fine.
01:11:56.000So I think that, you know, that instilled in me a lot of ideas of personal responsibility, individualism, et cetera.
01:12:02.000And I think, you know, getting into skateboarding as a sport when I was younger, and then having the ability to overcome and accomplish yourself, you know, your goals and yourself with no one in the way, I think, probably led me to be more independent and individualist.
01:12:18.000But I do think physical activity and competition is important.
01:12:22.000So, you were mentioning... I'm a lot older than you, but when I grew up, you played, you competed every day.
01:12:28.000And I went to a little local country public school.
01:12:59.000And it wasn't a grudge, you just got in a fight because, you know, out safe, out safe, and kickball, no, no, we're going to get in a fight and everything's fine.
01:13:05.000But I think we're losing some of that, and I don't know that that's good.
01:13:09.000Well, let's talk about censorship, manipulation.
01:13:12.000I was talking with Congresswoman Boebert, and I gotta say I'm a bit pessimistic because on this show, for instance, we've had on only a few guests who are more liberal-leaning.
01:13:22.000And we invite many on, but many just don't want to do it.
01:13:24.000The only ones who do either are up-and-coming and looking for an opportunity, which, you know, we're trying to...
01:13:31.000We do want to have some of these individuals.
01:13:33.000I don't want to limit someone's ability to speak because they're not famous or anything like that, but we're trying to engage in debates with people who are influencing the debate itself, but they don't want to.
01:13:41.000And often what we find is people like squad members either are intentionally lying or don't know what they're talking about.
01:13:48.000An example I'll give is when AOC Today said during the Twitter hearings that Boston's Children's Hospital was lied about by Libs of TikTok.
01:13:56.000claimed that they were giving hysterectomies to children, but they actually list on their website, reportedly,
01:14:00.000that they offered hysterectomies to adolescents, if we want to be specific.
01:14:05.000And there was even a video where they described gender-affirming hysterectomies at a children's hospital.
01:14:09.000So either she knows what she's saying is not true, or she genuinely believes incorrect things.
01:14:14.000If big tech is censoring conversations, and even us right now on this show
01:14:18.000are subject to those restrictions, how can we advance the country in a positive direction,
01:14:23.000come to real solutions, make people's lives better, if we can't even discuss the problem.
01:14:29.000I think you've hit on sort of the key thing here.
01:14:32.000The left today doesn't embrace the First Amendment.
01:14:35.000And that is literally something that has changed in my judgment in the last 10 to 15 years.
01:14:39.000It used to be the left would, you know, get your best hold, make your best argument, full embrace of the First Amendment, your right to speak, and let's have the debate and see who wins.
01:14:48.000And then we move on to the next issue.
01:14:50.000That's the way it used to be, but not today.
01:14:51.000Today the left says, if you don't agree with me, you're not allowed to talk.
01:14:56.000And if you try, we're going to call you racist, we're going to call you fascist, we're going to call you names, we're going to try to cancel you.
01:15:01.000And I've said this on the House floor when we were talking about the whole cancel culture phenomena.
01:15:06.000I said, don't think that they won't come for you.
01:15:09.000It's not just they're coming after conservatives or Republicans or libertarians.
01:15:13.000And that very week, if I remember right, that very week is the week they said the Dianne Feinstein Elementary School in San Francisco will no longer be named after Senator Feinstein.
01:15:55.000I think we're making some progress, finally.
01:15:57.000And of course, the biggest win was Elon Musk buying Twitter and showing us what was going on.
01:16:00.000As my good friend Thomas Massey said, he bought a crime scene.
01:16:03.000It cost him billions of dollars, but he bought a crime scene and laid out what happened there.
01:16:09.000That first they had their written policies that they enforced selectively.
01:16:13.000And then the closer they got to the election, the more they enforced them selectively.
01:16:17.000And then when their policies weren't good enough, they just had an ad hoc way of like, we're going to do whatever we want to do and censor whoever we want to censor.
01:16:22.000Do you think the Twitter executives lied today in these hearings?
01:16:25.000I think they didn't tell us everything because you know one of the things I just one question I'm just talking with Lauren when she asked about the hearing today too and I said the one question sort of stuck on me I asked because I looked at you know Baker's testimony Jim Baker who was deputy chief counsel and before that he was chief counsel at the FBI and on the top of the second page of his thing he says that he he didn't improperly suppress any information that would be good for the public dialogue.
01:16:49.000Well, if you didn't improperly suppress, then you believe you properly suppressed something.
01:16:54.000And he wouldn't, he wouldn't answer it.
01:16:56.000And he, he, he had behind a privilege.
01:16:58.000Um, but I, I want to know if that's right around the time that the Twitter files, when Musk bought Twitter and they're doing the Twitter files and they find out those are being filtered through Jim Baker, was he suppressing information then?
01:17:11.000So that was one of the takeaways I had.
01:17:13.000I wonder if there's potentially an FTC violation with Twitter in that before Elon Musk took over, and even now, there was this... Before Elon Musk, when you're on your Twitter feed, there's little stars in the top right corner.
01:17:25.000You click it, it says, switch between your home feed, which is algorithmic, and the latest tweets, which means that a user like me or any other person who signs up, if we select latest tweets, we expect to see the posts from individuals we follow in reverse chronological order.
01:17:42.000But Twitter was manipulating that feed while advertising falsely what they were delivering to people.
01:17:50.000So we asked, great point, we asked, okay, so when someone gets their account suspended or gets suspended from it, or their tweet's being taken down, there's a notice of that.
01:18:02.000But if they're doing what they call other visibility filtering, like blacklisting someone, stopping them from trending, they don't know that.
01:18:19.000And they didn't really seem to, at least I didn't figure out how they were answering that, but the fact that they were doing that and people didn't know, then I said, did that happen to any government officials or elected officials?
01:18:32.000And he said he didn't know, but he thought it did.
01:18:34.000So this is Yoel Roth, who we asked these questions to.
01:18:57.000But I guess, you know, what I'm thinking is, We often focus on the censorship aspect, which I think, culturally and morally, those of us who care about real debate and logic and policy are shocked by.
01:19:10.000But I'm also curious, how can Twitter, as a massive company with 300 million plus users, lie about the product they're delivering?
01:19:16.000How can a corporation in America say, imagine this, imagine if a company said, You come to me, here's a contract, you get a gallon of whole milk.
01:19:25.000That sounds like they're falsely advertising what they're delivering.
01:19:29.000If Twitter says the reverse chronological feed delivers you reverse chronological posts, but then they're using shadow ban algorithms, and we know they are, they're lying to their customers as to the product being delivered.
01:19:40.000Yeah, so one of the questions I asked, too, that he made me think of this, too, I asked this question, and I didn't fully understand it, but I asked if they were hard-coding into any specific accounts to censor them.
01:19:50.000So they're, like, targeting that specific user.
01:19:54.000And it was interesting how Yoel Roth kind of, and I want to go back and look at the transcript to see exactly how he said it, because he really didn't answer that square, that either.
01:20:02.000One of the things we want to do with legislation that we're planning on doing with Energy and Commerce Committee Is anything they do to your account, they have to tell you.
01:20:12.000There has to be real transparency, there has to be a timeframe, there has to be a due process so that you can correct it, figure out what it is, to have the debate and correct it within a specified amount of time, and then if they don't, then you should have some kind of cause of action because they're violating a contract that they have with you, their user, their customer.
01:20:28.000And the scary thing about what we've really learned, I think, from the Twitter files, too, is all the things they're doing, Twitter, but why in the world is the FBI coming in and telling Twitter, hey, these accounts have problems.
01:20:39.000They violate your terms of service, Twitter.
01:20:43.000What's the government telling Twitter these accounts violate Twitter's terms of service?
01:20:49.000And it wasn't because they were concerned about, you know, you being shadow banned or anything else.
01:20:52.000It was because they wanted those accounts taken down.
01:20:54.000That, to me, is the scariest part of all, which has come out in the Twitter files.
01:20:58.000Do you think that those revelations, that Twitter and Facebook had portals for government agencies to flag content, do you think that was partisan?
01:21:09.000I do, because, you know, The way I did it my first round of question day is I just asked, you know, was the Hunter Biden's laptop story, did the government tell you it was fake?
01:21:27.000I think they took it down because For months they've been meeting with Twitter.
01:21:36.000They had asked Twitter if they wanted security clearances in 30 days prior to the election.
01:21:41.000They'd sent them all kinds of emails heading on the email said Twitter folks as if they were best buddies and then they had the secret what I call the super secret James Bond teleporter app that they could send messages to that would that would you know go away and disappear within a matter of weeks.
01:21:56.000So they do all this, and they're telling them, be on the lookout for hack and leak operations.
01:22:00.000I think they played Twitter, and they understood, oh, this is, and they were a receptive audience, you know, like what it must say, 99% of them vote Democrat and give the Democrats.
01:22:11.000They didn't need the specific email that said, take down the Hunter Biden laptop story.
01:22:17.000They were all primed to do it based on what the FBI had done for months and months, meeting after meeting, text message, or excuse me, email after email.
01:22:25.000They were primed to do it and that's what they did.
01:22:34.000The real customer, in a true sense of a transactional customer, is the advertisers who are buying access to data and access to an audience.
01:22:43.000But I think in a legal sense, we, the users of Twitter, are still customers.
01:22:47.000There may not be a financial transaction, but there's a contract between us as to what we get in exchange for the... There are policies in terms of services.
01:22:57.000Yeah, so I guess, you know, the challenges I suppose we're seeing now is, you know, look, you guys may have gotten just a modicum of power by taking back a few extra seats in the House, giving you this majority, but is it enough to create a long-standing impact, to pass laws, to actually get something done?
01:23:15.000Are these hearings going to be enough to actually change things?
01:23:33.000She's a true believer in the First Amendment.
01:23:36.000We have a couple of great senators, Senator Grassley, Senator Johnson, who were investigated and some of the things they told us that the Democrats in these Folks did to them and FDI did to them.
01:23:46.000And then, of course, we have on the second panel, we have Professor Turley, whose op-ed out this week, I think, is really good because he used the term censorship by surrogate.
01:23:56.000You got the pressure from the government without explicitly telling them to do certain things.
01:24:00.000At least we haven't found that yet, but we may find that.
01:24:02.000But the pressure from the government and then the censorship from the tech platforms is real.
01:24:07.000And when you view it in this, in my mind, you view it in this bigger framework of what we've seen the last couple years, I always tell folks every single right we enjoy under the First Amendment has been assaulted in the last couple years.
01:24:20.000Your right to practice your faith, your right to petition the government, your right to assemble, freedom of press, freedom of speech, speech being the most important.
01:24:27.000All of them have been attacked by the government, many of them in relation to COVID and the COVID policies, but a host of other things too, and it's really frightening.
01:24:34.000You know what was the craziest thing about all that too, is even the third amendment got violated.
01:24:39.000The third amendment, the one that no one knows, because no one talks about, is that the government can't put soldiers in your house, right?
01:24:46.000Because this is back in the revolutionary period, and then when they did the eviction moratorium, effectively created a circumstance in which active duty
01:24:55.000soldiers who are renting property could not be evicted in violation of the
01:25:28.000The White House is considered the center of freedom on the planet.
01:25:31.000Here's the press secretary to the President of the United States in the press room, and she stands there at the podium and she says, And it was live.
01:25:39.000Americans now get their information from social media platforms.
01:25:41.000We, the Biden administration, are working with social media platforms to limit
01:25:58.000This is what I was saying to Congresswoman Boebert a moment about an hour ago.
01:26:04.000The way I view this is, with the manipulation of social media, the restriction of information to the American people, the Hunter Biden laptop story right before an election being a really prime example of this, They've created what I would describe as a hypoxic portion of the United States.
01:26:18.000That is, when your brain is deprived of oxygen, you don't know.
01:26:23.000I don't know if you've ever seen these videos, but they're actually quite revealing.
01:26:26.000They'll put a person in a sealed chamber with a certain level of oxygen, and they'll slowly lower it while asking them to answer basic math questions.
01:26:35.000To the person, they're saying, 1 plus 1 is 2, 2 plus 2 is 4, shmurblebobifidus 17, but in their mind, they're saying everything correctly.
01:26:49.000Yeah, your brain had no oxygen, so you were slowly shutting down.
01:26:52.000When they deprive half this country of information, and these people get their news and information from CNN or MSNBC, who have both just espoused so much garbage, we have a situation where I would describe it as the left hemisphere of our American consciousness is deprived of oxygen, unaware that it's, for the past seven or eight years, been manipulated and just deprived of facts, but it's still voting.
01:27:19.000So how do we vote to correct a problem when we are facing people who don't know they're facing a problem and they're voting?
01:27:27.000Continually to increase that problem, if you know what I mean.
01:27:51.000We could free the software code of large social networks right now, instead of trying to break up the companies, force them, once they get to a certain number of users, we treat it as a commons, and the software code is proliferated.
01:28:00.000I think that's where, I think Musk is thinking about doing that.
01:28:03.000I think that's where he may be headed.
01:28:04.000We could use government force and say, you know, it's like breaking up in a monopoly, but I...
01:30:06.000I don't know how you guys feel about answering this, but I've seen pictures of his hand which look, they look like he has IV marks, like they've been giving him intravenous solutions or drugs.
01:30:51.000We have Turtle Drum saying, could you get each guest's thoughts on auditing and or ending the Federal Reserve and also The Ian Carpenter stuff.
01:31:35.000So, I mean, the ATF, I think they need to come before Congress and prove why they should be an agency, why the things that they do that maybe matter.
01:31:44.000Maybe there's something that they do that matters.
01:31:46.000I haven't found it yet, but maybe that's sent over to the FBI after, you know, we clean them out.
01:32:01.000Congress makes law with the pistol braces and everything they're trying to do there to make at least 10 million Americans felons in a very, very short period.
01:32:13.000Now, the ATF, they were the ones who ran Fast and Furious.
01:32:18.000They were giving traced firearms to known cartel members.
01:33:02.000It has to go beyond that to make sure we can shut this down completely.
01:33:06.000Congressman Matt Gaetz, he has a bill to abolish the ATF.
01:33:10.000And, you know, if they can't come before Congress and answer and have and us have oversight over that agency and them answer to why they should exist, then heck yeah, abolish them.
01:33:21.000I don't believe the ATF has the right to... Well, the executive branch has no legislative authority.
01:33:47.000When the pistol brace came up in Congress, it was actually in the Judiciary Committee, Representative Cicilline had a big old poster board showing what a pistol brace was, and he was trying to demonstrate that it turns any handgun into a fully automatic.
01:35:36.000We need to Timcast IRL with reps from both, in parentheses, all sides of the aisle, and let them have a long, respectful table conversation about the issues.
01:35:43.000The representatives on tonight displayed great authenticity.
01:37:22.000You know, this is one of my freedom fighters from the Freedom Caucus, and she and I serve on the Natural Resources Committee together and in the Oversight and Accountability Committee.
01:37:30.000Yeah, I mean, it's an honor and privilege.
01:37:32.000As you can see, we've been doing a lot of work these last couple days.
01:37:35.000And today, especially, Lauren nuked the former Twitter executives on, especially the fact that they found out that, obviously, you were being suppressed.
01:37:42.000It was really interesting to see them kind of squirm.
01:37:44.000But again, I mean, we know that this has been taking place for a long time, but I think that the media was really gaslighting conservatives.
01:37:49.000And I think that they were censoring anyone who really went against their groupthink mentality.
01:39:17.000But there's millions of Americans who were completely silenced by the four people that we had in the committee room.
01:39:24.000And, you know, AOC, she Put her a little tweet that I was there praising God for Elon, and yeah, thank God for Elon Musk.
01:39:30.000Thank God for him firing those four people and purchasing this crime scene, as Thomas Massey said and Jim Jordan reiterated, so he could expose everything that's been going on.
01:39:41.000But An, I want to give you the hot seat here, so I'm going to switch with you.
01:39:47.000Yeah, just to kind of piggyback off of what Lauren was saying, so I actually had to pull up this graphic to make sure that I'm giving you guys correct information, but what we found out is that Twitter, the executives and SISA, which was under DHS, so really it was their cybersecurity infrastructure and security agency, was communicating on a private cloud server to actually have people deplatformed, their postings removed.
01:40:09.000And the interesting thing was is that when we were in questioning, Eel Roth and then the rest of the executives pretended like they didn't know about it, and we actually had screenshots from the conversations.
01:40:19.000Mind you, this was done without any oversight at all, so they were operating in darkness.
01:40:23.000They were basically suppressing this information from the American people.
01:40:26.000And what this is known as is a joint state actor.
01:40:29.000Social media companies, to include Twitter, were in this platform.
01:40:33.000But to be clear, Facebook was also in it, and so what we uncovered was a pretty big deal today.
01:40:38.000I know that it actually ties into what Laura Loomer has as an actual lawsuit that she's currently pursuing, but this is a pretty big deal and the fact that the government agencies were communicating with Twitter to interfere in free speech is a massive deal, not just for Republicans, but for everyone.
01:40:55.000As of right now, I haven't been able to fully see what's on the private server, but we do know for a fact that Facebook, to include anything owned by them, so I assume also Instagram and then also Twitter was in this private cloud server.
01:41:05.000And mind you, they are working with left-leaning organizations that were also part of the Election Integrity Partnership, and you can actually find this graphic on my at-rep APL Luna website.
01:41:22.000They could not recollect doing any of this, so I refreshed their memory with the graphic.
01:41:26.000But the point is that if we didn't have that graphic, mind you, the graphic was actually leaked on a Stanford University YouTube video.
01:41:33.000If we did not find that, we don't know that we would actually have been able to have proven this information, that JIRA existed, and that is a private software that they're communicating on.
01:41:43.000I think Congressman Matt Gaetz is going to interview you now.
01:41:48.000This is the difference between Lauren Boebert and Matt Gaetz.
01:41:51.000For me to get my chance to be on Timcast, I had to drive into the middle of the fucking woods!
01:41:58.000And you all come here for the Lauren Boebert experience!
01:42:03.000So I get the difference, but I mostly came by because when I had the chance to go out to TimCast land, you said I was your favorite congressman.
01:42:10.000And I firmly believe that that's because you had not yet met Ana Paulina Luna and so many of my colleagues who were here.
01:42:17.000But I was just glad to be on because so many people, after you go on TimCast, there's like this whole experience where you get to read the comments and all of the great things people say about Ian.
01:42:29.000And what I didn't appreciate when I went on your show is how many people who wear their name on their shirt every day watch.
01:42:38.000And when I went out to events in my district, the law enforcement that provided security said they watched him cast.
01:42:47.000The teachers in the schools who are out there fighting against the woke culture and the critical race theory say they watch you and they get inspiration.
01:42:56.000The folks who come out of the kitchen At the restaurants where I ate who were back there watching dishes and slinging hash said, you know, we watched him pool.
01:43:06.000And when he said that he thought you were a fighter, we knew we could believe it.
01:43:10.000And it's a it was a very powerful thing.
01:43:13.000It was it was great to spend time with you out in the wilderness, but quite something to see how the people all over this country who work hard and expect more out of their government really believe in you.
01:43:24.000And one of the things we're fighting for on this debt limit Work requirements.
01:43:29.000We gotta have a strategy that unites 222 Republicans.
01:43:35.000There are times when Ana and Lauren and Byron and Jim Jordan and I...
01:43:39.000have to go out on a limb and engage in fights that nobody else is willing to engage in.
01:43:44.000But to deal with the fact that our country has maxed out our credit card debt, and we have to reflect on our spending habits as a consequence, means we gotta have people from center-right, from the perspective I represent, get together.
01:43:59.000And what we've been working on is to sell people on the idea that if you can go to work, And you choose not to, maybe you shouldn't expect the other people who go to work to pay for all your shit.
01:44:11.000You know, your health care, your transportation, your child care, your cell phone bill.
01:44:15.000And so, I appreciate the forum to be able to do that.
01:44:27.000And the next one is about how we deal with this country's fiscal crisis.
01:44:31.000And I think there is no greater cause that can unify us than the idea that You should have to make a contribution.
01:44:41.000And in states like ours, you know, we're Floridians and we're very proud Floridians.
01:44:46.000But in Florida, when we tried to seek waivers from the federal government on things like food stamps to do work requirements, the federal government said no over and over again.
01:44:57.000And if we just unlock the potential for states to be able to pursue these policies, my belief is that under our great federalist system, The idea is that our best will rise to the top and we'll see them replicated and we got to create that space.
01:45:11.000So that's what we're working on here in this building and good to have you guys here.
01:45:16.000Yeah, no, to really Matt's credit and then also to with something that happened during the speaker debate is that we actually had gotten a commitment from leadership to ensure that there would be no just blank check spending for the debt ceiling.
01:45:30.000And I think that's important to note because when you don't have these discussions and you just simply go along to get along, These things won't get accomplished.
01:45:38.000So I feel like this Congress, granted, I haven't been serving that long, but I do feel like this Congress is a lot different than others because of that.
01:45:44.000And so it was an accountability mechanism that needed to happen.
01:46:05.000And when people speak on behalf of our national defense, we're talking about people like Ana, like her husband Andy, who wore the uniform, who fought for our country, who provided some of the most elite level talent you could ever muster for the sake of a nation.
01:46:20.000And when we talk about having a rational defense budget, we don't for a moment mean that we ought to surrender the high ground to China or limit the tools that our warfighters need.
01:46:31.000But maybe All this 100 billion we send to Ukraine ought to get a little more scrutiny than we have offered it.
01:46:38.000And that's what I think can at times unify the populist right and the populist left.
01:46:44.000And it's a constant theme on your show.
01:46:46.000And it's sad to me How rare that occurs because there are things like surveillance policy, foreign policy, that could bring together those elements and they've become so strident in their desire to just wear the blue shirt that they actually don't represent some of the populist views that they once ran on.
01:47:09.000When you came on last time, you mentioned potentially bringing on members of the squad or to have a conversation.
01:47:14.000And I'm always down for a conversation in that capacity, but I gotta be honest, I don't find them to be genuine.
01:47:56.000Maybe they used to have more optimism about their cross-sectional appeal.
01:48:02.000Maybe when people like the Squad, when they got elected, they thought, you know what, we can talk to more folks than just the Democrat primary voters who sent us here.
01:48:12.000And this town wears you down on that theory.
01:48:15.000Everything about Washington is to divide and to separate and make you believe that your only path forward is with the people who wear the color of your jersey.
01:48:24.000And there are times when we don't feel that way.
01:48:27.000You know, Ana had to win her election to get here, beating the establishment.
01:48:33.000The establishment went against her every time.
01:48:34.000She had to run against a lobbyist her first time.
01:48:41.000Probably confirm what I'm about to say, but almost every person in this town lined up against Ana because, oh, she didn't know Washington and she wasn't part of the system in the game.
01:48:54.000And what I saw was someone who actually, if she got here, was going to be able to fight for her constituents, untethered from those corrupt influences.
01:49:02.000And while it took her Two elections to get here.
01:49:06.000It's all the sweeter, actually, to get someone here who's willing to fight the establishment.
01:49:11.000And you get that from people like Lauren Boebert, who have to take out an incumbent in a primary.
01:49:17.000You get that from people like Ana, who have to take on an establishment lobbyist, literally, to get here.
01:49:23.000And part of what we fought for in that speaker fight Was the opportunity to bring more folks to Washington of those experiences and to not have such a concentrated influence of the Uniparty through the PACs and the special interests that no matter which political party, Republican or Democrat, wins, it's always their people.
01:49:44.000Now we're starting to get some our people here and glad you were able to host a number of them tonight.
01:49:48.000I really want to ask you, Matt, about the Kevin McCarthy stuff.
01:49:53.000He said something recently—correct me if I'm wrong, because I only saw a bit of the Twitter postings—that the officer who shot Ashley Babbitt was just doing her job.
01:50:01.000He had said previously insinuations about Donald Trump working for Russia, things like that.
01:50:06.000You stood up to the establishment, along with many other members of Congress, but you were loud, you were vocal.
01:50:12.000It's one of the reasons I said you're my favorite member.
01:50:15.000I just, I like seeing someone go to the machine.
01:50:16.000Look, I cheered for AOC when she beat Crowley back in 2018 because I want to see people tell the machine enough, you know, knock it off.
01:50:23.000I'm curious now on your thoughts on Speaker McCarthy.
01:50:27.000He removes Schiff and Swalwell from the Intelligence Committee, which I agree with.
01:50:33.000I actually agree with your initial argument on Ilhan Omar that removing her simply because she said things you don't like doesn't seem to make sense.
01:50:44.000I didn't feel good about it, to be honest with you.
01:50:47.000I believe that had Ilhan Omar not voted to remove Marjorie Taylor Greene and Paul Gosar from their committees, that she would have found a great deal more support.
01:50:59.000I think that was ultimately the decision maker, not just for me, but probably for a handful of members, that, you know, if you're going to adopt this terrible paradigm and then you're not willing to live by it, that's actually the swamp.
01:51:12.000That's actually what we see too often here.
01:51:14.000And that hypocrisy had to be dealt with in some way.
01:51:19.000If the normal rhythm of this place is that every time power changes hands, you got to go nuke some of the loud people on the other side who you don't agree with, it will actually be Lauren Boebert and Ana Paulina Luna and Matt Gaetz who will get nuked next.
01:51:35.000We have to understand that and so I hope this ends it.
01:51:38.000Ultimately what got me there, McCarthy and Hakeem Jeffries both agreed this has to end and I hope it ends at this standpoint.
01:51:47.000The Schiff and Swalwell thing is very different because they can be judged based on their acts.
01:51:52.000They took actions that hurt our country by lying about intelligence.
01:51:57.000I do not believe that Congresswoman Omar did that.
01:52:00.000I think she had made comments that upset the various groups of people and that achieved a critical mass at some point.
01:52:08.000But sometimes we've got to listen to the dissidents, right?
01:52:11.000Sometimes we have to be thoughtful and introspective and reflective about what people say who don't always align with the traditional dogma of this place.
01:52:20.000I also, too, though, think that Representative Perry brought a great perspective, which is ultimately why I voted the way that I did, which was, you know, you have to be careful on the speech aspect, right?
01:52:28.000Because next cycle, if we don't have the gavel, ultimately, they might say that something that we said was offensive and wrong and try to remove us from committees.
01:52:36.000So to be clear, she's still on committees, but she also did something that is really bad, especially when you're on foreign affairs.
01:52:41.000And that is that she, all kidding aside, basically had engaged in immigration fraud.
01:52:47.000And so I think that when people are being looked at for their committees, what they bring to the table, I think that that's an important note.
01:52:57.000Because there were some news articles, we automatically assume that that's the truth?
01:53:01.000I mean, there were a lot of news articles about me that were false.
01:53:04.000Right, and so I have a higher standard for due process than that.
01:53:08.000We have an ethics committee and we have an ethics rule that says that if you bring discredit on the House by your actions that then you can be expelled from this institution and that we are ultimately the arbiters of our own membership.
01:53:19.000And so I don't love the fact that we remove somebody without that due process.
01:53:22.000I do believe that a number of us got Speaker McCarthy to agree that in the future there has to be some ability for people to appeal and And have a potential removal examined more thoroughly.
01:53:36.000But, you know, there were a lot of Republicans who were waving their pom-poms about that vote.
01:53:46.000But if this becomes a situation where we cancel people in the Congress on committees based on their perspective on certain things that don't align with the traditional dogma, then I'm probably the next one on the chopping block.
01:54:09.000I am eager to get the 14,000 hours of January 6 footage out.
01:54:14.000And if you had been in some of the depositions I've been in these last few days with FBI officials, getting that information out is critically important.
01:54:21.000Our weaponization subcommittee has already begun the process of collecting documents and interviewing whistleblowers.
01:54:31.000I am deeply concerned about the extent to which that undercover federal officers and confidential informants that were working for the federal government could have animated some of the criminal acuity of that day.
01:54:45.000Also too, for those who are looking and watching this right now, I actually spoke to Speaker McCarthy's office and he said that if you do have a case and that you feel that footage might actually help your case to prove that you are innocent, that they will actually work to get that footage to you.
01:55:00.000So to contact your member of Congress and then they can work to do that.
01:55:03.000So I think that for people watching, obviously there are many different circumstances and so people deserve to have the right to defend themselves and they deserve the right to access to that footage and they have that now.
01:55:14.000Today we passed a Thomas Massey bill that carried with it a Lauren Boebert substantive amendment.
01:55:21.000This is the type of stuff that you would not have seen in a traditional Congress where the people who have access to the floor and the amendatory process are those who are blessed by the lobbyists.
01:55:31.000And Speaker McCarthy, to his great credit, was willing to give the power back to the members And a meritocracy develops as a consequence of that, that you don't get when it's just about who writes the checks.
01:55:46.000So does it feel like, at least for you guys, the people are starting to win back control?
01:55:52.000Yeah, listen, think about just that question from one of the last questions you asked me when I was on your program.
01:55:57.000You said, Gates, how worried are you about retribution?
01:56:01.000Your belief was that the force that we had brought on this place would result in us being punished.
01:56:08.000And instead, it's our amendments, our bills, our ideas that are driving the discussion.
01:56:16.000We're going to get beat sometimes on the floor on the ideas we present.
01:56:19.000Like when Marjorie Taylor Greene put an idea up to limit the president's ability to just issue an emergency over everything and everything.
01:56:27.000But we're actually willing to take votes on amendments that lose.
01:56:31.000And I think that that brings the American people into the discussion in a far more fruitful way.
01:56:37.000What about what's up with abolishing the IRS?
01:56:40.000Well, I believe we should have the fair tax.
01:56:42.000I believe the American people should be able to choose how much taxes they pay based on their consumption.
01:56:47.000And if you want to go buy a Lamborghini or some crazy expensive skateboard that some dude makes in his garage, then All the better, but then you can pay the taxes on that.
01:56:57.000And what frustrates us is that oftentimes we're just funding the bureaucracy.
01:57:01.000It's not even like we're extracting money from the American people to go to their needs.
01:57:05.000We're extracting it to fund a system that picks winners and losers, and the powerful and the elite and the connected get access to that system.
01:57:15.000So let's, I'll give you a hypothetical.
01:57:17.000If we could, probably very difficult to do, but let's say we were able to isolate specifically bloated bureaucracy spending.
01:57:26.000If we could take all of that money and apply it to healthcare, government spending that money instead on helping people with healthcare, would you be in favor of that?
01:57:35.000I absolutely would, but let's look at the VA, which is something that Ana and I have talked about at great length, not just in the policy space, but as it literally relates to our families and the people we love.
01:57:48.000If we abolished the VA and gave every veteran a card that allowed them to get fee for service at any health care provider that they
01:57:59.000And if you want to provide health care in this country, you better be willing to provide it to a veteran
01:58:03.000for the amount that we would pay for it at that rate.
01:58:06.000Then you could eliminate the bureaucracy and you could spend all the money
01:58:10.000that is appropriate to that bureaucracy actually on health care for veterans.
01:58:13.000Yeah, if that was an option today, I guarantee most vets would go that route.
01:58:17.000And one of the most frustrating things is that, especially during what happened with COVID because of the bureaucracy, a lot of veterans that did need help, especially that had PTSD that needed to talk to doctors, weren't getting the help that they needed.
01:58:29.000But if we're going to do universal health care, which is the essence of your question, in exchange for bureaucratic inertia and bureaucratic waste, there's no more fruitful space than the VA, and no more meritorious a space.
01:59:31.000What do you guys think about like setting up an application or an app or something where people could allocate a portion of their taxes like a sliding thing where you're like okay first of all it's like a well I'll say tinder like you swipe right if you like this this idea they want to build a fountain on Main Street and then you go into your little thing you can slide I want to put 3% of my discretionary tax money towards the fountain and this and that and then you've got like you have to do 10% minimum for the police 10% for the fire department 30% for black budget military because what the heck you know You get some control over your tax, where you put your taxes, and then maybe the system can sort itself out.
02:00:06.000Yeah, I think that that would convert our republic to a direct democracy, right?
02:00:24.000It's crowdsourcing the appropriations process.
02:00:26.000Look, we're just trying to crowdsource the appropriations process among the elected representatives, and we about had to burn this place to the fucking ground to do it.
02:00:34.000They're calling us extortionists, terrorists, I mean everything in between.
02:00:40.000Yeah, but I'd have to think about that.
02:00:42.000No, so I think we're about to go private here in just a minute.
02:00:43.000Maybe keep it on the blockchain or something so that it's, we can view it at any time,
02:01:34.000You know, a couple days ago, Bovert's team reached out and said, can we do a show here so we can get everybody in?
02:01:39.000And it was perfect timing with the State of the Union, with the Twitter stuff, so it'd be really awesome.
02:01:44.000Maybe next time, and there will be a next time, We'll build the system for a mobile setup well in advance, because I think we only have like three days to try and build a whole system to drive in a car and set it up, but I think it'll be even better next time.
02:01:56.000What we'll do now is we will go to the Members Only segment, so become a member at TimCast.com.
02:02:02.000Go to TimCast.com, click join us, and in about one hour we're going to have an uncensored Members Only show, and I just want to mention, you know, Matt Gaetz comes in and he's swearing already, so maybe it'll be a bit more exciting than it already was.
02:02:22.000You can follow the show at TimCast IRL.
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02:02:26.000Congresswoman Luna, do you want to shout anything out?
02:02:28.000Yeah, Matt Gaetz was one of the only representatives to actually even talk to me during my initial race, and then came down and helped me, and so I actually owe him a lot for being here.
02:02:38.000So Matt's probably why I dove into the speakers race the way that I did.
02:03:00.000It's in total disarray right now, but my family's been in the background of your shots the whole time.
02:03:06.000Tim, thanks so much for coming out here.
02:03:07.000You know, we are doing amazing things up here in our slim majority.
02:03:13.000We don't have the Senate, we don't have the White House, but we are paving the way for policies that will actually work when we do get these
02:03:20.000things back and we have that control again.
02:03:23.000So we can really get America back on track. That's why I'm here. I'm here so my four boys, three of them are running
02:03:28.000around, they were just wheeling chairs and having races out in the
02:03:31.000hallway. I'm here so my boys will not live in a socialist nation.
02:03:37.000And, you know, being a mom of four boys, you know, I'm not raising them to be children.
02:03:41.000I'm not raising them to be little boys.
02:03:42.000I'm raising them to be men and that is so dang important right now when liberals are trying to teach them to be women.
02:03:48.000So, yeah, there's a lot to fight for in this country but Jesus is Lord and I'm so happy to live in this free country and I do have hope.
02:03:56.000If I didn't, I would go home Well, thank you so much for allowing us to use your office so we could have so many awesome people come down and talk to not only everybody watching, but that we got the opportunity to talk to all of you as well.