MSNBC producer caught on camera trying to catch the jury in the aftermath of the verdict. Will the judge declare a mistrial or a hung jury? And what will the judge do in the wake of this travesty of justice? Producer Ben Stewart joins the show to talk about all of this and much more.
00:00:00.000Today, MSNBC was caught jerry tampering.
00:00:23.000Now, fortunately, it was attempted jury tampering, but apparently an MSNBC producer was trailing the jury bus, blowing through a streetlight to try and keep up with them.
00:00:33.000And, of course, they come out and they say, this is a normal process.
00:00:37.000They were just trying to get in touch with the jurors so they could interview them after the verdict.
00:00:43.000The judge banned MSNBC from the building.
00:00:47.000Now, this producer that was named is an NBC producer, so there's, you know, of course, overlap, but this may be one of the most serious... I don't know how you just...
00:01:33.000I believe I have a case to present to you.
00:01:36.000That ADA Krause tampered with evidence to cheat because they knew they would lose.
00:01:43.000I believe I can spell it out for you very clearly now.
00:01:46.000That being said, I'm not going to claim it's definitive, but I can show you the evidence.
00:01:50.000He has software in his computer for cropping and for formatting.
00:01:53.000I believe he got the footage himself from Tucker Carlson's show, cropped out the Fox News graphic, compressed it to give the defense a version they could not form an argument around, and then he got caught.
00:02:07.000Now, maybe it's speculative, but wait till we show you the transcript and you see what he said.
00:02:12.000I believe he outed himself and he got caught.
00:02:15.000Will the judge declare a mistrial with prejudice?
00:03:20.000We did that first episode on the fourth turning and going through the book and everything, so we might get into that stuff again as well, because that's a very crazy topic, especially with how crazy everything's getting.
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00:06:47.000Let's get into that first story, and this, my friends, is a doozy.
00:06:52.000From the New York Post, MSNBC banned from Kyle Rittenhouse trial after producer accused of following jurors.
00:07:14.000They say, the man who identified himself as James Morrison was pulled over Wednesday after he allegedly blew a red light while pursuing a bus to transport jurors.
00:07:22.000He stated he had been instructed by a superior in New York to follow the jury bus.
00:07:27.000Now we have the name, I'm not going to say the name of this producer because we have no evidence the producer was actually doing anything and a lot of people are accusing this producer of malintent.
00:09:19.000Mike Cernovich wrote about this today and he said MSNBC crossed state lines to jury tamper.
00:09:27.000And I think there's a case to be made here especially with ... how biased MSNBC has been about this entire case I mean ... Joy Reid was just on her nationally syndicated television ... show talking about how Kyle crying is just white man tears ... which she doesn't care about she called Kyle Karen she ... compared him to to Kavanaugh.
00:09:46.000And and these are people with obviously a bent they ... want a particular outcome in this story so to to think that ... they're innocent here I think is a misnomer we're still ... waiting to find out all the details we don't know exactly ... what was going on here but we do we do.
00:10:02.000I mean, as far as like the bigger details, the exact intentions, whether this is going to be criminally charged or not, we don't know that.
00:10:09.000But I posted a meme about this today on my Twitter account, and it shows Michael Myers in Halloween with the tagline, MSNBC creeping on jurors.
00:10:18.000So, you know, we got to laugh at this thing because it's ridiculous.
00:10:21.000And I think, you know, from my own personal view, this was more malicious than it was investigative journalism.
00:10:27.000Investigating a jury who's being protected from public exposure?
00:10:31.000Well, that's the other side of the story that they're saying.
00:10:33.000I think it was last week, we did a segment on this show where I played an MSNBC video where they said, Gage Grosskreutz testified he had his hands up when he was shot.
00:10:44.000And then they play a video from the trial of something totally different, of him talking about how he was scared for his life and wanted to be an EMT.
00:10:49.000And I'm like, that's not the testimony.
00:10:51.000And then we played the video where the defense said, it wasn't until you advanced on Kyle and pointed your gun at him that he shot you.
00:10:59.000So what the, what was MSNBC talking about?
00:11:02.000Then we get people saying, I haven't watched MSNBC to this capacity, but they're like, they show the prosecutor's closing argument and they don't show the defense.
00:11:11.000Now, MSNBC was attempting to expose the identities of the jurors.
00:11:16.000The police said- Let me show you this.
00:11:18.000Kenosha Police Department said, police suspect this person was trying to photograph jurors.
00:11:24.000Is this, I'll tell you this, I think it is, but is this a major corporate player, ideologues, cultists, trying to affect the outcome of a trial?
00:12:18.000We have no solid proof or evidence of this.
00:12:21.000But it's not far to speculate with just atrocious actions that MSNBC has been taken on the intelligence of the American people with their blasphemy and bullcrap that they've been trying to shove down everyone's throat.
00:12:33.000It's ridiculous what they've been saying.
00:12:35.000They've been off the rails and they've been more concerned about an agenda, a narrative, rather than of course any kind of even semblance of news reporting because they haven't been doing any of that.
00:12:45.000And I think that's a fair argument to make here with everything that's going on here.
00:12:49.000And it's just it's just ridiculous some people are ... saying that this is clear obstruction of justice some ... people are saying that they wanted to the jury to know ... that they're watching them some people say that they ... wanted the jury know that they have their identities who ... knows but but either way this stinks to high heaven we're ... going to find out later down the line what's going to ... happen here I'm just speculating.
00:13:08.000I could see them wanting to prep a story like, meet the jurors from the Kyle Rittenhouse, and they have all of them already planned, and they already know who each of them are, and they find out what about.
00:13:18.000And then they're just willing to throw this reporter under the bus.
00:14:02.000Now, I didn't know if that was true, because I was like, guys.
00:14:04.000You know, I tweeted, for all we know, this is Antifa pretending to be a reporter, and knowing someone's name, and throwing them under the bus, trying to escape the cops.
00:14:46.000The reason those protesters are outside screaming as the bus is coming in to drop off jurors is because of the likes of MSNBC and others like them.
00:14:56.000So they definitely want to affect the outcome.
00:14:58.000In my opinion, this dude may have been a useful idiot, but I think they were like, get the jurors information.
00:15:24.000So you think the jurors, after the fact, are gonna be like, oh, that was you who was following us in this landmark trial we're terrified of the outcome of, and making us fear for our lives?
00:15:34.000Of course I'll do an interview with you!
00:15:37.000Yeah, I can't, I can't follow, like, you ever hear, like, a dog chasing a car, like, dog doesn't know what he would do if he got the car.
00:15:45.000I'm really curious, like, what would they have done if they would have gotten a moment?
00:15:48.000I've seen a dog get the car, and what happened was it hit the wheels when the car was going 50 miles an hour and went flying up in the air and was...
00:15:57.000Good metaphor for what happened to this person in MSNBC.
00:16:03.000What good could have come out of it for this guy or for MSNBC?
00:16:32.000I mean, like, biggest of our lifetime.
00:16:33.000Menendez Brothers, it didn't fit everything that was going on in the world.
00:16:37.000This fits everything that's going on in the world.
00:16:40.000And I really feel, I was talking to Lydia beforehand, like, you take a look at this, like, yes, it's, they're making it into something like black versus white, but really, it's somebody, it's the only armed citizenry in the world protecting small businesses during a time where there's an all-out assault on small businesses And really, this is like an iconic, symbolic show of force against anyone who wants to defend small businesses by any means.
00:17:43.000I mean, like, I'm trying to think of another time in history, let's just say in the past hundred years, where there have been such violent riots around the country that people in mass had to start calling in local favors and saying, like, could you come and protect our business?
00:18:00.000Because Carte Blanche is just being destroyed across the board.
00:18:05.000Well, in the 90s there was riots in Los Angeles, there was racial riots in New York as well, and then of course in the 60s and 70s there was a lot of riots as well.
00:18:15.000So this is not something that's uncommon.
00:18:17.000Where people brought their own guns to protect small businesses?
00:18:23.000The rooftop Koreans are of course talked about a lot, especially in the chat room.
00:18:32.000What went down in the LA riots and why the Koreatown residents took to their rooftops?
00:18:58.000You know, there's that famous viral moment where the guy was pulled out- I say viral, but this is historical- where he was pulled out of the truck in the LA riots and brutally beaten and stomped on the ground and left, you know, seriously injured.
00:19:08.000And then during the George Floyd riots, the BLM riots- the great BLM riots of 2020, Twenty-five people are confirmed to have been dead due to those riots.
00:19:17.000Now, if you go by the periphery, like, uh, related incidents around the riots, I believe it goes up to, like, thirty-four?
00:19:27.000And they also found, uh, after a building was burned down and completely destroyed, they didn't realize this, but after they cleared the rubble, they found a body.
00:20:14.000I mean, I think it's fair to say we know who's being protected on this one.
00:20:17.000Not just going after parents, but using counter-terrorism division members and using threat tags to go after specific parents because they went to a PTA meeting?
00:20:30.000That's absolutely absurd and just highlights the insanity of the political persecution that's going after people for their beliefs rather than for their actions.
00:20:43.000Briefly mentioned it before the show, but for everybody watching, I believe that ADA Krause, in the Rittenhouse trial, manufactured evidence, I should say this, manipulated evidence, provided a weakened version of that evidence to the defense in an effort to disadvantage them, prejudice the jury, and gain a Hail Mary pass, which in fact, has now given them a potential hung jury.
00:21:08.000To simplify, Drone footage, they're calling it unicorn evidence, emerges, you know, right in the middle of the trial that the state has.
00:23:04.000He says, based on the work of John M. Curtis, DeathNotDarth, and ForFearg, it appears the Rittenhouse drone video was a cropped version of the video shown on Tucker Carlson.
00:23:14.000So the image I'm presenting now on the screen, for those that are watching, you can see the Tucker Carlson video, and you can see the prosecution's video, and it looks like Someone cropped out Fox News' graphic, creating a strange video.
00:25:00.000And I said, now we all know it's a fact, the defense was given a lower res video.
00:25:04.000This is not disputed, but it seems ADA Kraus got caught, as per the transcript.
00:25:08.000This is a transcript of the moment when the defense realized they were not given the real evidence, in fact, they were given a low res version.
00:26:05.000If it truly was a mistake, that somehow, this is what they argued, when they sent the video over email, because they sent it over email, it somehow changed the name of the file and compressed it.
00:27:45.000Compression software, which again, is on Krauss' computer, known as Handbrake, which many people have pointed out, below Format Factory.
00:27:52.000Handbrake is transcoding software can render videos easily to other sizes and formats.
00:27:57.000Source, from handbrake.fr, they say, it's a tool for converting video from nearly any format to a selection of modern, widely supported codecs.
00:28:05.000The original format 1920x1080 somehow got cropped to 1920x844.
00:28:07.000It gets further cropped, renamed, and compressed.
00:28:15.000I don't have... That's as far as I go with, you know, presenting my case.
00:28:20.000As far as I can... What I'll basically say is, I believe this is probable cause.
00:28:26.000I believe I have shown probable cause to believe that ADA Krause tampered with evidence to try and cheat and win and disadvantage the defense and prejudice the jury against the defendant.
00:29:32.000You did a very good job of compiling and I'm glad you got the images to show there. My
00:29:36.000only question is, this is a big case, right?
00:29:41.000How was none of this checked beforehand?
00:29:43.000I mean, as a video guy, I'm curious because I was saying earlier, on an image, to see whether it's been doctored or not, you can check to see how many dates of creation it has on it.
00:29:55.000If it only has one date of creation, that means that was the date it was taken and it hasn't been touched since.
00:30:01.000How did they not look into that, and why did they go to Tucker Carlson and whatever, like, you know, screen record or something?
00:30:07.000I don't know if they got it from Tucker Carlson.
00:30:10.000Some people have pointed out the video appears to be the same footage that came from Tucker Carlson, but it's cropped.
00:30:15.000So what I'm simply saying is, this to me seems plausible, but that's why I said probable cause.
00:30:21.000Probable cause is not proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
00:30:24.000I'm just saying all this stuff lines up, and he's got these two specific programs for this.
00:30:29.000I'd like to get him under oath and investigate this.
00:30:31.000You did a great job, and the fact that you're here talking about this, like, this is a huge case.
00:30:36.000Beforehand, wouldn't they ask questions like, where did you get this evidence?
00:30:41.000I want to investigate to make sure that what you're saying lines up with where this imagery comes from.
00:31:38.000A good example is when they were trying to explain algorithmic enlargement, and the defense said they use a 3D AI logarithm to produce and generate, and I was like, It's image interpolation.
00:31:53.000You can simply say, I understand what he was trying to say, but it uses a computer program to predict what the image may look like.
00:32:02.000It is not an image from the night in question.
00:33:23.000I already feel like I'm in idiocracy, where it's like you don't have to do that good of a job to get by with your job these days.
00:33:31.000So this is one of the things I noticed as I was growing up was that all of our institutions are like held together by spider webs like no one is checking things like and I I when I do my work I try to go back and check everything I've done because I worked in a hospital and if you don't check things and make sure that your documentation is correct You can be in huge trouble.
00:33:50.000You can use your license, the nurse in charge of you can use your license.
00:33:52.000But apparently this is in this case, in this huge freaking trial, and I just wanted to say that I feel like we don't owe this prosecution any form of confidence that they are operating in good faith because they're not even competent.
00:34:03.000So if this Super Chat is correct, I think it backs up exactly what I said.
00:34:07.000So a super chat said, Weikau has the metadata. The video the defense received was
00:34:12.000created 20 minutes after the original.
00:34:13.000If genuine, they'd show the same. If it was created 20 minutes after the original,
00:34:17.000that would imply that Krause was the one who made both.
00:34:23.000He made the original file to admit it as evidence, and then he made the lower-res version to give the defense to weaken their ability to argue against it.
00:34:32.000Because if it was a third party who made both, how would he have two different files and then give the wrong one?
00:35:12.000I'm going to say it one more time, this is a high-profile case.
00:35:14.000Let's talk about the ramifications of this fake evidence.
00:35:20.000The prosecution won a major victory when they were able to get the judge to instruct the jury on provocation.
00:35:27.000If you believe that Kyle Rittenhouse provoked the attack, then he must have exhausted all means of retreat, otherwise it is not self-defense.
00:35:34.000I think it's something to that effect.
00:35:36.000And if they didn't have this video footage with that argument about him pointing the weapon, there would have been no provocation instruction.
00:35:45.000The jury would have been told, he was attacked, if you believe he acted in self-defense, acquit.
00:35:49.000Here's what we got from Newsmax, and I don't know if this is true, but this is Newsmax reporting.
00:35:54.000A Newsmax source reports they overheard Kyle Rittenhouse's attorney saying that he believed the jury is at a 6-6 split.
00:36:02.000Mike Carter reports from the courthouse in Kenosha.
00:36:45.000If everything I said about Kraus and the manipulation of this evidence is true, it'll get thrown out, and the state will have no opportunity to present that.
00:36:53.000Furthermore, if Kraus did do something untoward, he could get in serious trouble, and the case may actually... Something beyond a retrial may happen if it turns out that they did something malicious.
00:37:07.000It could actually... It might not be with prejudice, but it may actually create a political pressure where they can't retry Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:37:13.000So, If we're looking at a hung jury and the defense is like, OK, we're going to we're going to get a do over.
00:37:20.000Let's add a verbal motion for mistrial.
00:37:23.000What people need to know is the judge has both motions to consider.
00:37:27.000It's just more options for the defense.
00:37:31.000I keep thinking about how the jurors are coming in on a bus where they can't see anything but they hear people screaming at them.
00:37:38.000The people outside know who... It's like if you're let into a courthouse blindfolded and people all around you are screaming at you as you're walking in.
00:37:46.000How horrifying and mind-twisting that would be.
00:37:49.000And then to have to decide the fate of basically the people outside as well.
00:38:00.000Well, someone's decision is going to weigh on, if I rule this way, will there be consequences and other people hurt because of the way I rule?
00:38:08.000So that's also another aspect that we have to consider here when we have these kind of egregious cases of people trying to take photos of them, people following them, the people screaming outside of them.
00:38:18.000So there's a lot to play into this, but what did the judge rule?
00:38:23.000Because I know the defense said mistrial with prejudice, then they reached for mistrial without prejudice.
00:38:32.000What was his kind of understanding of this?
00:38:34.000Did he decide on it, or did he say, I'm going to wait until the jury comes out?
00:38:38.000The first time the defense made a verbal motion for mistrial with prejudice, The judge said, I'll take it under advisement, and then he basically was like, if there's one more violation, you guys watch yourself.
00:38:49.000They made a formal filing for a motion, a mistrial with prejudice.
00:38:54.000We didn't hear anything about that from the judge.
00:38:56.000The verbal motion for mistrial, the judge basically said, I'm gonna wait till the jury comes back with a verdict, and we'll see.
00:39:22.000Well, you got the mainstream media putting fuel on the fire.
00:39:25.000You got the mainstream media screaming, going crazy, trying to make this a race issue when it's not.
00:39:29.000You got the mainstream media, I'm sorry, corporate media, as Malice would call them, literally fanning the flames here in every instant, just like they did last summer.
00:39:53.000The summer is usually the hot period where there is a lot of civil unrest, but there are memes going around showing Ron Paul at the Federal Reserve disguising it with a Nike store saying that, this is a meme, this is not a real image, but it's a meme saying that he hopes that during rioting season people will target the Federal Reserve and think it's the next.
00:40:11.000but but so so that there's a reason wasn't there a babylon be article about
00:40:14.000that or something like i believe so yeah i i i don't know what have the writers
00:40:19.000done i've seen the meme and i have to share the meme
00:40:21.000uh... because it hit home to uh... to what's really going on here
00:40:25.000uh... but but who knows what's going to happen here The conditions are there.
00:40:30.000We can only hope and do our best to try to provide a reasonable side of the story.
00:40:36.000To try to provide some kind of explanation that will decrease the risk of violence and escalation.
00:41:12.000Now, there's also the potential warning that if a guilty verdict, you know, issue, if a guilty verdict does come in, the judge could be like, mistrial with prejudice?
00:41:21.000Well yeah, there's a story, there's definitely a story, no matter which way this swings, there's a story to escalate it, I feel.
00:41:29.000I think it was Catherine Austin Fitz, she did some research on the 2020 riots alone, and she said, I may get the numbers wrong, but 35 out of 37 of the main parts of the damage done to infrastructure was done right around maybe within a quarter or a half mile of a central bank.
00:41:48.000And her whole theory, like, I mean, again, this is just her theory saying that, like, you know, this is exactly where they're going to build up the smart grid.
00:41:56.000You know, so I don't know. I'm not going to press on that one. But I love when I hear people outside the box
00:42:02.000investigation being like, I'm just going to look at what else there is around all these spots that seem to be
00:42:10.000Well, a smart... So you know the Internet of Things.
00:42:14.000It's part of their 2030 plan for all major urban cities to be digitized and to be run through a kind of, sorry I cut you off that, but to be run through a kind of centralized grid.
00:42:25.000It's totally centralized and it's the device.
00:42:27.000You know, over in China, I think Robert Spalding was talking about this in his, I forget what book, Stealth Wars or something like that, but he was saying like over in China, There's not even the need for the device anymore because there's so many cameras and microphones that the very next step is you walk out your door and you say Uber.
00:42:45.000It acknowledges who you are by your voice or where you're standing and the camera and it comes by and picks you up and you're in the device.
00:42:53.000So the smart grid is definitely what Luke was saying about it's creating the Internet of Things everywhere.
00:43:00.000And mind you, SmartDust was being talked about in 2000.
00:43:04.000Going into pavement and it's already there in Denver.
00:44:02.000I forget what their prediction was, but when it gets to minority report level, where it can start
00:44:08.000predicting people's actions, what groups you'll end up in, what stores you'll end up at, when,
00:44:13.000why, where, those types of things. Yeah, this is the digitization of everything. This is Mark
00:44:19.000Zuckerberg's metaverse, but in real life. And this is how they're going to do it.
00:44:24.000You're going to be in the pod, eating the bugs, living in the society where they will track, trace, and database every aspect of your existence to the nanoparticle of smart, intelligent dust and microchip particles that will be in charge of controlling every aspect of your human existence.
00:44:43.000Colonization all the way down to our biology.
00:44:45.000Just look up International Barcode of Life and see who some of the main donors to that.
00:45:07.000But I have a question, I mean, are you saying that you think that the riots and all the destruction we've seen is somehow tied to... I'll just put it simply, I mean, I think it's fair to say, an attempt to gain more control politically over people's lives?
00:45:19.000and i think if you walk back from the smart dust stuff you know something it's
00:45:23.000kind of freaky for people understand he said something like you know why is the police stand
00:45:27.000down a lot of rights why is it that the media promotes the white economy has
00:45:30.000fundraised for them the violence scares people and triggers a response where
00:45:35.000they say give us more money to keep you safe
00:45:38.000yeah you know like i'm just theorizing here uh... i I've been looking into this.
00:45:42.000I think last time we talked about Agenda 2020, Agenda 2030 and everything like that.
00:45:48.000I personally feel like you've talked about Davos, you've talked about World Economic Forum.
00:45:52.000The whole idea is moving from stakeholder capitalism to shareholder, or maybe it's the
00:45:58.000other way around, shareholder capitalism to stakeholder capitalism.
00:46:01.000You need an excuse to radically not just homogenize world economies and bring them all together
00:46:07.000under one, but you need an excuse, a public-facing excuse.
00:46:12.000So to me, and this is yet again another thing that Katherine Austen-Fitts says, is like
00:47:01.000And so to me, I absolutely feel that this needs to be spun in this direction.
00:47:06.000And I'll just take it back to what I said about the Kyle Rittenhouse case and why it's so iconic is because it's a 17-year-old with a rifle At, in front of small businesses, which are being, I mean, I think I saw a woman today saying, I run a shop in Kenosha.
00:48:36.000Then all of a sudden YouTube's like, actually, we're gonna allow you to start talking about it.
00:48:41.000And then, truth be told, when the more and more videos start popping up about it, the fear spreads and it allows a lot more corrupt politicians and powerful CEOs, big pharma corporations to be like, now's our chance to use fear to gain power.
00:48:56.000I mean, there's different realms of thinking here, but there's a lot of setup here, especially by individuals like Bill Gates that wasn't just funneling money into the mainstream media, because he gave hundreds of billions of dollars to the mainstream media.
00:49:59.000I look at his history and how he started Microsoft and how he moved through Silicon Valley.
00:50:04.000Much like Steve Jobs, also not a good guy.
00:50:06.000But the problem I have with this, like, here's a guy who did a thing, it's like, yo, what's happening in the world right now involves thousands of people.
00:50:13.000We can talk about Donald Trump's role in 15 Days to Slow the Spread, but I don't think Trump was a big player in exactly what was going on.
00:50:20.000We could talk about Joe Biden's attempt at a vaccine mandate we could struck down, and then everyone's like, but, but, but, you know, Bill Gates.
00:51:03.000It's frustrating for me because people talk about Bill Gates in some superficial manner, like, did you know that he gave money to the media?
00:51:33.000You can name George Soros and the DAs he's been funding.
00:51:36.000This is what frustrates me about... Exactly, and why shouldn't you?
00:51:39.000What frustrates me here is you get a story from June 2021 where BARDA, which is a bioresearch lab in the US, I believe through HHS, gets a weaponized smallpox drug approved.
00:51:52.000I believe it was approved, but I could be wrong about this.
00:51:54.000Bill Gates comes out and says, I'm worried about weaponized smallpox.
00:51:58.000And all of a sudden, the conspiracy realm lights up saying, Bill Gates is doing whatever.
00:52:02.000And it's like, dude, he read the news!
00:52:10.000And so the issue I take is like, I've just had so many conversations about the obsession over Bill Gates.
00:52:15.000Yeah, I think it's a red herring to go after the individuals because, like, if you have a corrupt king that's terrorizing his subjects, you want to remove that king, you're going to get another king.
00:52:47.000Right now, we have a culture, and culture is more powerful than politics and law.
00:52:52.000As I've mentioned numerous times, the easiest way to explain it is, there's wacky laws in Massachusetts, you know, they have a law from the 1600s, you can't put a pie in your windowsill on Sunday afternoon because it attracts bears, and now no cop will enforce that.
00:53:05.000So when you get a hundred million people and you're standing before them and they say, tell us what's happening.
00:53:12.000You say, this Bill Gates guy spent money in the press.
00:53:15.000They go, what am I supposed to do with that?
00:53:32.000You have all of these YouTubers who make videos about people, people, people, people, people, people, and then regular people who are standing at ready saying, I want the world to be a better place for my kids.
00:53:42.000I want to make sure I have my freedoms and my liberties.
00:53:46.000And they go, okay, I won't fight in any meaningful way for principles, I won't focus on what's happening in my community, I won't vote locally, I'll complain about Bill Gates.
00:53:55.000Then those people go out to rallies, and they hold up big signs saying Bill Gates.
00:53:59.000And then when regular people show up, they go, look at the crazy people.
00:54:10.000When we can just say we are advocates for freedom.
00:54:13.000We are American citizens who know the history of this country and the founding fathers who said we demand freedom and respect and tell the people instead of trying to pretend to be a scientist who's going to argue about medical efficacy.
00:54:24.000We can just say, I reject your attempts to mandate a medical procedure on me.
00:54:37.000I also talk about personal responsibility.
00:54:39.000I also talk about the need for you to wake up from this trauma-based mind control and psychosis that people are going through by watching the mainstream media, by watching what Bill Gates funds, by watching what all these other individuals finance in order to trick you in life.
00:54:51.000Nobody knows or cares about Bill Gates.
00:54:56.000Because if people actually do find out the reality of the true existence of this world, which many of them are right now, many people are waking up.
00:55:02.000When people see the true reality of it, they start understanding the players behind the scenes here, then they could start implementing policies where they're not victimized by these players and their games that they play on the rest of the population.
00:55:15.000We don't get towards a convention of states, assuming that's what we want.
00:55:18.000We don't get towards a populist uprising because a bunch of people went outside complaining about Bill Gates.
00:55:22.000I'm not saying complain about Bill Gates.
00:55:23.000I'm saying understand the problem and be able to diagnose it correctly without playing their games of, here's a puppet.
00:55:31.000This puppet's going to make things better.
00:56:23.000I think it's important, along with going after the solutions, along with understanding the full problem that we're seeing in front of us, to be able to fully...
00:56:34.000And the challenge we have is that none of this is relevant because what matters is culture.
00:56:46.000And a bunch of people who have said, I've identified a source of the problem and I believe it's Bill Gates, are going to convince no one and change nothing.
00:56:53.000The truth, but you know what? But you know what? People want a symbol for their oppression.
00:56:58.000So they isolate an individual for a long time. It was George Soros and still is.
00:57:03.000Now Bill Gates is filling that role. Every single story, every quote, every comment has brought up.
00:57:08.000And I'm just wondering, like, are we having a debate about this one guy we don't like?
00:57:11.000Are we going to talk about how we're going to influence the culture so that these laws,
00:57:13.000these laws can't exist? The culture is downstream from the technology that's basically functioning
00:57:17.000as a gatekeeping system, allowing what culture is seen where. And then you got to say who built
00:57:24.000And Bill did build some of it, but a lot of people have built a lot of central—and are in the process of building centralized technology systems.
00:57:32.000I think Allison McDowell is really a fascinating human being.
00:57:36.000I would love to know some of these solutions.
00:57:41.000Especially when we point at certain people, I want to know what is the actionable step.
00:57:47.000So when you're talking about solutions, I would love to hear some of what you think would actually be solutions for people in mass families or whatever, like at-home, in-the-home solutions, and do any of them have to do with DMT?
00:58:02.000DMT is a personal decision that individuals should do their own research, their own homework on.
00:58:09.000We all go through it when we dream every single night.
00:58:12.000That's something that should be up to the individual to look up to.
00:58:16.000But but again I think understanding exactly what's ... going on is the first step towards dealing with the ... problem obviously we have a very sick Society obviously we ... have a very corrupted Society understanding how it's ... corrupted who it's corrupted by and how we can not be ... corrupted by it I think is the first step whether it's.
00:58:33.000You know school the school the indoctrination centers ... whether it's the medical centers that keep charging ... people $30 for an aspirin that rob people of their wealth and ... health whether it's the banking system whether it's all the ... systems that are thrown and shoved down our throats every ... single day that are scams Ponzi schemes against the ... American people we when we are victims to it when we are ... blind to it we give all of our power to these individuals.
00:58:59.000And I'm saying these individuals are doing all this I ... think that's an essential part to break it all down and ... to say hey you know what maybe I won't vote with my ... dollar at this particular business maybe I won't put my ... child in an indoctrination Center maybe I will look into ... homeschooling maybe I won't depend on all my food from.
00:59:15.000maybe I'll start looking into farming maybe I'll start ...
00:59:19.000building a community of people that it could actually have a ...
00:59:22.000support system around me and I think just acknowledging like ...
00:59:26.000hey there's some big bad people out there some of them ...
00:59:28.000are sociopaths understanding that reality and not blaming ...
00:59:32.000everything on on generalized topics like like culture ...
00:59:35.000culture is absolutely important but you build that ...
00:59:38.000culture from a sense of reality not from a sense of I just ...
00:59:41.000want this let me go get this this is why.
01:00:18.000Bill Gates has bought influence in the media, he's manipulative, he has these weird ideas, and he's not a doctor, and they say, that's weird, what does he do?
01:00:29.000In order to give someone enough information to understand why Bill Gates is a bad person, and why George Soros is a bad person, and why these other
01:00:36.000billionaires, because there are many and many, many of them, is a bad person, you'd have to put them in a
01:00:42.000school for years to really break down all this stuff. And so what you end up having is you have a
01:00:46.000bunch of people who've been in this world for a really, really long time. They know and they
01:00:50.000can easily recall the history of the, you know, how Microsoft came to be, how they got their
01:00:55.000first deals, they went and they bought it, the arguments between Steve Jobs and Bill Gates, Steve Jobs,
01:01:00.000the things he did, they were very, very just dirty individuals. And I mean, like, like, just
01:01:05.000willing to exploit and rip off and corrupt.
01:01:39.000You say the things that directly affect you, that are causing you problems, can be solved if you wake up and start paying attention.
01:01:46.000But what we get a lot of is George Soros, the left has their Koch brothers, the left has their Mercers, and I've been in these activist groups and I've seen just how ineffective it is to say a word that means nothing to somebody, a name that means nothing to somebody, but think you're giving some great revelation.
01:02:03.000Joe Rogan just pointed out to Alex Jones when he was on the show on Tuesday that Alex has the problem of knowing.
01:02:09.000And so when he tries explaining to people and he says really like things that are so out there they don't understand, it actually makes them push away from you.
01:02:17.000You cannot walk up to a person who's never experienced and who doesn't understand the nitty-gritty of what's going on, immediately jump, crank up the dial to 11, and think they'll listen to you.
01:02:27.000We're not doing that we're not jumping up to random people ... we're having a talk show where we delve deep into ... complicated topics the reason people listen to us is because ... it's an honest real conversation that isn't afraid ... just to be on the surface level we go deep down and I ... think this is why this podcast is so special because we could.
01:02:45.000Do that and I disagree with your characterization we're ... not talking to random people on the street here we're ... talking to an informed public that is paying attention and I ... don't think everything that happens in this world is a ... coincidence I do think there's bad people out there I do ... believe there is going to you to be really bad things that ... are going to continue to continue to happen unless ... people realize that these people are actually doing it ... and I think that's also a part of the solution as well as to ...
01:03:10.000responsibility for yourself as a human being and ... that's something I preach from the very beginning be ... informed of what's going on don't be a victim of these ... people move away from them and support systems and ... structures and businesses that align with your ... principles with your morality and what you believe ... deep down in yourself.
01:03:30.000When I think of, like, this whole system and, like, how we fix... I think of it kind of like game theory and military theory.
01:03:35.000I think of, like, Band of Brothers taking a bunker.
01:03:37.000When you have a target or when you're focusing on, like, who did that?
01:03:41.000Like, let's say you're talking about Bill Gates or whatever.
01:03:43.000You don't want to, like, yell out, hey, Bill, and, like, go directly at him.
01:03:47.000Because that's... then you become an easy target.
01:03:49.000You kind of want to flank the target and, like, confuse the target and, like, I really and ultimately persuade that.
01:03:57.000I mean, ultimately, we're not at war with each other.
01:03:59.000We're on the same team trying to help society.
01:04:03.000So you want to kind of convince the target.
01:04:04.000And I think what Luke is doing is looking through a telescope backwards, because when you start with the people and not with the ideas, people don't understand what you're trying to say when you tell them, when you come up, when you tell people about this idea and you say something like, and I really think that Bill Gates is a symptom of this.
01:04:23.000They may understand it better because that idea affects them directly.
01:04:27.000Centralization affects people who drive trucks.
01:04:30.000It affects people who work at small businesses.
01:04:32.000And this is something that they will understand much better than saying, George Soros is our enemy.
01:04:37.000It doesn't matter what George Soros is doing.
01:04:39.000I'm just trying to drive a truck and keep my family in one piece.
01:04:41.000People want a symbol of something that they... They want a symbol to represent what they believe oppresses them or causes them problems and harm.
01:04:49.000And for a lot of people, it's very easy to just name a person.
01:04:53.000The thing about Bill Gates, he's a bad guy.
01:05:37.000But it can change if people are told very simply, like simple ways to improve their
01:05:42.000lives, to give them information about basic things that are going on.
01:05:47.000And you open the door and allow them to walk through it.
01:05:49.000You don't run up to them, jump drop kick them and smash them through the window and try and push them outside because they'll freak out.
01:05:55.000So when it comes to, you know, promoting a cause and trying to convince people to say sign up for a non-profit, become a member, or it's something they've never heard of.
01:06:05.000The one thing I would always do when it came to, you know, how do I convince someone to want to save the forest?
01:06:09.000You have to make it relatable and start with something they understand because, in my opinion, it's disrespectful to demand someone know something they've never heard of.
01:06:19.000So if you approach it with, here's the guy, here's the bad guy, he's the villain, and then people, like I said, go out with signs saying, the villain.
01:06:27.000Everyone else looks at that and says, that is meaningless to me.
01:06:30.000I disagree with your characterizations, with Linda and yours as well, because I think saying, hey, don't talk about this, don't talk about this, isn't going to help anything in the long run.
01:06:40.000And if you've looked at what I've been talking about for a very long time, if you want to look for the person that's responsible for all your woes, for all your problems, you have to look in the mirror.
01:06:50.000And once you look in the mirror you start ... understanding the personal responsibility that you have ... within yourself to understand what's going on and not fall ... for the traps I think it's important to understand the ... traps as much as it is the people who lay the traps and I ... think we if we understand how people lay the traps why they ... laid traps what traps are out there I think that's ... something that we should not be afraid to talk about I think ... that's something that intrigues people I think that's ... what people want to know people want to see about this ...
01:07:15.000Want to see all this different information about ... this and and it's not a telescope where we're looking ... opposite way I would say you're in a dark room just ... bumping your head walking around not knowing what's ... going on you're going to continue bumping your head ... until you try to shine some kind of light on it and on the ...
01:07:31.000Hitting your head so it stops hitting your head so ... that's my perspective that's my point of view personal ... responsibility something I have always preached that's ... why I created we are change is about being the change ... that you want to see in the world not just blaming ... somebody else calling the bogeyman I agree with some ... elements and I even address this before in previous ... videos where I said hey.
01:07:51.000We shouldn't maybe even be calling these guys the elites ... because we're giving them all of our power we shouldn't be ... giving them all of our power because we have the power and ... only our ignorance fuels them and gives them all of our ... power so I think waking up to the really bad people it's not ... just you know all the other billionaires they're not ... creating GMO mosquitoes they're not creating ... technology that's going to be embedded microchipped in ... people that's going to control their fertility.
01:08:40.000A company or a lab had to do that work, which means there has to be employees, there has to be people, there has to be research, there has to be funding.
01:08:46.000Funding probably came, you know, I assume you're saying it came from Bill Gates.
01:08:50.000Can you name the other people involved in that project?
01:08:52.000I could probably, I don't want to talk out of my butt.
01:08:54.000I'll have to research it and get you the particular facts on it.
01:08:57.000But when it comes to the scientific community, there's a thing called the Bill Chill.
01:09:01.000That freezes a lot of people in the scientific community from even criticizing Bill Gates on a lot of his projects because of the large amounts of investment that he has in this entire industry through the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
01:09:12.000How do you stop someone from working for a company that would do something like make genetically modified mosquitoes to be released?
01:09:18.000You put him in a dark room for seven days.
01:09:28.000I think, I think in the past, you know, um, certain, uh, you know, Jordan Peterson talked about enforced monogamy and it triggered a bunch of people who thought he meant like the police would come and make women get married to like incels or something.
01:09:40.000But what he meant was, uh, I could be getting this wrong, but my understanding is that society just as a whole culturally was like, this is what is normal.
01:09:48.000And there are a lot of things that are enforced, not through law, but through culture and society, that people would say, like, I can't do that.
01:09:56.000We've lost it to a great deal because... I guess you could argue multiculturalism, in the definition used by the right, that you have a bunch of different groups that don't view each other as part of the community, and so they don't actually feel like they're committing a wrong against someone that matters.
01:10:13.000We see this with activists, we see it with police, you know, the Antifa people would always say, snitches get stitches.
01:10:18.000And so if somebody within, like, Occupy Wall Street, for instance, would commit a serious crime, they'd be like, don't report it to the police.
01:10:25.000Basically saying, we feel no remorse and no harm.
01:10:30.000We regret nothing if we allow this person who wronged us to go free or to wrong someone to go free.
01:10:35.000There was a few people who were, I'll just say, raped in Occupy Wall Street.
01:10:41.000And the occupiers warned everybody, we'll beat you up if you tell the cops this happened.
01:10:45.000See, when you have a cohesive community and people have scruples, they would feel within their heart, like, I can't do that because it's just wrong to do it to somebody else.
01:10:55.000But when you have people willing to work for these companies where they say things like, I don't care that other people are being harmed by this, you get, like we were talking about a bit, like the banality of evil, some commonplace thing where people are just willing to do it.
01:11:07.000So my view of a lot of this is, If, um, if you tried bribing a cop, what's the likelihood he would take the bribe in the United States, right?
01:12:04.000You see, when you have a culture that believes in each other, believes in morality, has a moral framework, things like what you're describing can't happen.
01:12:12.000How do we build that moral framework back up?
01:12:18.000We explain to them very simple values and principles.
01:12:22.000We explain to them, here's what's happening right now.
01:12:24.000You're being negatively impacted by high gas prices.
01:12:26.000Okay, well this is the result of a large political system and it has a lot to do with how you participate in politics.
01:12:33.000It's very hard to vote your way out of it, to be completely honest.
01:12:36.000But you know, I grew up and I saw a lot of these videos and I saw a lot of these, you know, I've known about Alex Jones for a really, really long time and I always felt like none of this stuff has been particularly effective in getting people to actually build that culture where they'll say, I am unwilling to commit this act.
01:12:54.000Instead, where we have now is how Michael Malice described it.
01:12:56.000Most people are willing to prefer safety over freedom.
01:13:00.000So when they come out and they say, we are hereby stripping you of all of your rights, they say, okay.
01:13:19.000And then I say, Michael Bloomberg is the reason.
01:13:22.000And they'll be like, I don't know what that has to do with...
01:13:25.000Or I say, hey, have you considered, you know, purchasing a firearm to protect yourself?
01:13:29.000And then they say, you know, I've never been a big fan.
01:13:32.000I've been worried and I've heard these things.
01:13:33.000Let me give you some basic information on gun culture and understanding so that you can have something to protect yourself, so that you won't be victimized again.
01:13:57.000But telling people these names doesn't change the culture, doesn't inspire them to buy weapons, to exercise their rights, and to protect their families.
01:14:11.000Because the main critical point that you have of me right now is that as I bring up a lot of these other people, right?
01:14:17.000So I bring up like the Bloombergs in this scenario.
01:14:19.000I think you should build the culture and talk about Bloomberg.
01:14:23.000I think you could do both and they don't have to be exclusive to each other.
01:14:26.000I don't think you need blinders and not talk about the root cause of the problem while, of course, pushing the culture, which I think is also absolutely important.
01:14:40.000But, um, and like what you said earlier, Tim, you don't want to put make villains on a poster.
01:14:44.000Everyone's like, down with person X. Because what'll happen is all the other villains eventually, when it builds up to a point, will throw that guy under the bus.
01:14:52.000And then you'll get this sociological cathartic faux release.
01:15:09.000Yeah, and I gotta say, for the most part, what I've seen is actionable when it comes to conspiracies and naming big names and stuff like that.
01:15:17.000What's actionable for most people isn't something that's going to do much for their lives.
01:15:22.000I think, Luke, you are an exception because you're okay looking into the abyss and looking for solutions as well.
01:15:30.000A lot of people, when they hear that stuff, they don't feel inspired to look big and to have some kind of grandiose 30,000 foot view of what's happening.
01:15:40.000They really just want to protect their family.
01:15:42.000If you think about it now, like evolutionarily, we would look out into nature to see if there was something hunting us.
01:15:49.000Now people do that with news and they're looking through, you know, and I'm generalizing here, but for the most part, like you have the protectors watching news trying to figure out, am I safe?
01:16:01.000We're not looking through the trees trying to figure out if predators are there anymore.
01:16:04.000So it's ancient architecture we're talking about.
01:16:09.000So most people with conspiracy, it downgrades their prefrontal cortex and they start going back into the hindbrain.
01:16:15.000They start getting You know, scared, unnecessarily, it doesn't do anything for them.
01:16:20.000I think that's the majority of people.
01:16:23.000Some people, looking at the big, looking at the specific actors like you, I think it actually, like in the film Divergent, I think it actually turns you on so you start realizing, no, I gotta look at the deepest and darkest so we can start building back from there.
01:16:41.000When it comes to conspiracy, I think over 90% of it is fluff, much of it intentional fluff, and then only a little bit of it, and I know you had Alex on and you were pulling up articles and stuff like that and seeing that, yeah, some of this stuff really does pan out.
01:16:57.000For most people, conspiracy does nothing good for them.
01:17:01.000So me, I'm more of like an archetypal conspiracy theorist.
01:17:04.000I know there's some shady shit going on.
01:17:07.000But when it comes to really pointing at who's involved, I'm not going to say that's a tool you shouldn't pull out of the tool belt, but it's probably like a handgun.
01:17:18.000It's for select moments, I really believe.
01:17:21.000Because most people, they can't handle what that means when you say, did you know X, Y, and Z, they're trying to do this to you and your family?
01:17:30.000They don't know what to do with that, so they shut down, I think.
01:17:33.000Well, I think it's confusing to a lot of people to introduce foreign concepts to us.
01:17:39.000You know, I have to talk about how when we do, when I do news segments, I try to be careful to a certain degree because you don't want to be esoteric.
01:17:46.000There are a lot of people we have on the show and I talk to them and they're like, hey, you know, how do we get the podcast bigger?
01:17:50.000And I was just like, just keep in mind that a lot of people who tune in might know something and be concerned about something that's like in the culture, in the now, in the know.
01:17:58.000And you can talk about the nitty gritty details they don't understand.
01:18:01.000So I actually, I just recorded something with Joe Rogan. I don't know when the episode goes up,
01:18:04.000but there were a few points where I was like, if I want to make this story quick,
01:18:08.000it's going to be too esoteric for the average person. And we'll have to actually break down
01:18:12.000the terms, the individuals involved. So we were talking a lot about the Rittenhouse trial
01:18:17.000and naming the individuals who were involved in all, as all the witnesses. And it's like, who's that?
01:18:30.000Because Joe knows the average person is not going to understand if I talk about this as an expert.
01:18:36.000I shouldn't say expert, but as like someone in the weeds.
01:18:38.000So, the challenge is finding that balance.
01:18:41.000There are a group of people that want to know, that don't like the powerful individuals who are playing these games, who are manipulating and influential.
01:18:50.000The issue I take for the most part is, I feel like, as I mentioned, you don't actually solve the problem, but there will always be powerful individuals.
01:18:59.000And I can't remember exactly what happened, but he got called out, and I think it was during AMC or whatever, it was during GameStop, and he said, you know the crazy thing is, when I got into this, I was the little guy fighting the establishment, and today I realize I'm the establishment, and I just didn't realize that happened.
01:19:14.000So there will come a point in time where, say like for this show for instance, and the money we spend, people are going to be livid, furious, outraged at what I'm funding.
01:19:28.000We're trying to create software to make it so that no one can ever be censored again.
01:19:31.000But this means really, really bad people with really awful ideas won't be able to be censored.
01:19:35.000You're gonna get a bunch of people being like, Tim Pool has been funding these programs to give evil people platforms so they can never be shut out of society, and they're wrong, and they're violent, and they're angry, and they're evil, and then they'll start focusing on me because there'll come a point where I gain too much influence or power in some capacity.
01:20:07.000We need to inspire people to hold true to principles and ideas that they understand very easily.
01:20:14.000Because when I would do segments, I'd often say, it's not fair of me to assume you guys have the time to watch the news every day like I do.
01:20:22.000So if I watch the Rittenhouse livestream all day just glued to it for the court trial, the average person can't do that because they have jobs and they have work.
01:20:29.000So they say, I want to turn on someone I trust who's going to give me what I believe to be the correct information and will do their best.
01:20:37.000And so I often try to say, I will do my best to give you the information because I know you don't have the time to do it.
01:20:41.000That is not to say I think anyone is stupid.
01:20:45.000That people are looking for a service to be provided, and I have to respect the fact that they don't have the time to know everything.
01:20:53.000Dude, I was thinking of your metaphor of looking through the forest.
01:20:56.000But there's a counter argument to make this, to make here, because I don't think we should be kind of talking down or talking to people like children.
01:21:02.000I think there are some advanced level people that do want to hear advanced level stuff, and sometimes entertaining that I think is good, but I understand you kind of lose people by going too far down the rabbit hole.
01:21:13.000But I think some some of the people do need to go down there just to say, hey, it's pretty interesting down here.
01:21:39.000That guy with the armor is not the king.
01:21:41.000Princess Amidala was actually- So don't send all your forces to fight and go after this king because it's a fake king and it's a fake illusion.
01:21:48.000You're gonna waste all your time and energy while the real bad guy gets away and then sets up more horrible traps and more armies against you.
01:22:20.000I'm not saying ignore Bill Gates or anything they're doing.
01:22:22.000What I mean to say is if the confidence is broken by regular people and they just do their thing and believe in their values and principles and focus on that, It's a grassroots effort, then all of a sudden the chain breaks, and these powerful individuals have no ability to influence.
01:22:39.000The point I was making is with like the lab in Florida, wherever they made these mosquitoes, because they did this... I don't know when they did this, but there's this big mosquito release thing.
01:22:45.000Just a couple months ago in Key West, Florida, they released it.
01:23:19.000The people who are raised in this world have come to a point where they say,
01:23:24.000I have no qualms with inflicting maximum pain on primates to see what happens.
01:23:29.000At a certain point we need to be like, how did you get to that point?
01:23:33.000Because it's not Bill Gates who made him do that.
01:23:35.000Now certainly money is an influencer, but how do we make sure the moral framework, and I'm gonna be maybe offensive to all the atheists and secularists, I believe that as we begin losing the Christian moral framework, You end up with people who don't believe in any kind of moral framework, and that's what you get from wokeness.
01:23:53.000You get people who believe that there is no truth but power.
01:23:57.000These are the kind of people that, you know, you eventually see in World War II-era Japan, and you end up with the Nazi Party, the people who are willing to commit atrocities against others because they don't feel that they have... there's no remorse.
01:24:10.000If the values are instilled in an individual to respect others, to hold a certain moral framework, and I believe We were all raised in a Christian moral framework.
01:24:17.000I'm not saying the religion, I'm not religious, but that moral framework has in it the Fifth Amendment, the Sixth Amendment, all of these things.
01:24:24.000You end up with people who would sit there and they'll say, we'll pay you a million dollars to torture these monkeys, and they'll be like, I will never do that.
01:24:30.000And then you don't have to worry about these horrifying things.
01:24:32.000Someone would say, hey, we want you to genetically engineer mosquitoes that are going to go around.
01:24:35.000Whoa, whoa, whoa, that's too much for me.
01:24:39.000When you're talking about values, I think you're nailing it on the head.
01:24:42.000And narrative, like, you know, One thing that holds a country or a tribe or whatever together is a collective myth.
01:24:50.000It holds certain values in it, and we have that in our own way.
01:24:55.000And that's one thing that's kind of breaking down now, is our collective myth.
01:24:59.000And what I feel really causes for that breakdown is Dividing, not just the family structure, but dividing us from one another and putting an intercessor, some kind of technological intercessor.
01:25:13.000And I think the solution... We talked about this when Joe Rogan was just on recently.
01:25:18.000He said, you know, like, what compelled Kyle Rittenhouse to go there?
01:25:22.000And he said, anarchy and chaos in the streets.
01:25:25.000And I know that the word anarchy actually has a little bit deeper meaning to that, which I won't go super into, but it's more about localism as well, like locally controlling certain things and connecting with one another.
01:25:42.000But when you have more of a community, a real community, you live your values with one another.
01:25:48.000You don't have a piece of technology in between you and like, oh no, I couldn't hear those last five words that you just said because the algorithm blocked it.
01:25:56.000You know, community, real connectedness.
01:25:59.000I think that's something that is going to uphold our values because I do think that it's the erosion of our values that we're seeing a lot right now.
01:26:07.000To be a little obnoxious, here we have Bill Gates and here we have his mini-me, Dr. Fauci, who's been working and collaborating with him almost every step of the way since COVID started.
01:26:23.000Because if you don't have a strong group, if you don't have a family, if you don't have core values, you of course will be picked apart, you of course will be manipulated, you of course will be thrown into a situation where you become your very own worst enemy, and you will be susceptible to these traps, these games that I've been talking about before.
01:26:41.000And I think a lot of people have been, I think a lot of people are suffering, a lot of people are not in a good state, and I think that's only going to continue Not when we just change the culture, but when we address the root cause of everything that's happening here.
01:26:53.000And we addressed the importance of personal responsibility, self-education, and making yourself aware of not only the things outside of you, the important people controlling, pushing things, but also the things inside of you and the things that you can make a big difference in when it comes to your own personal choices and decisions you make in your life.
01:27:12.000Sometimes it's as simple as meditating for 10 minutes, sitting in a room, and examining your life and deciding where you want to go as a human being.
01:27:56.000And I think it's important that people know why he's a bad dude and the bad things he does.
01:27:59.000I especially think it's important to point out that Joe Rogan can give his opinion and the media just attacks him.
01:28:05.000And then Bill Gates does and they cheer for him when neither are doctors.
01:28:10.000I would say he gets away with this because he has the cover because he has no one paying attention to him.
01:28:14.000He cares what the public thinks about him.
01:28:17.000That's why he buys the best PR staff to hide all of his Jeffrey Epstein connections, which were far more extensive.
01:28:24.000If people found out about exactly what he was going on, he wouldn't be able to get away with More than half of the stuff that he's already getting away with.
01:28:31.000So he hides under the cover of darkness.
01:28:33.000And I think that's why shining a light on him would show you a big room with him slapping you upside the head.
01:28:39.000And once you see someone slapping you upside the head, you know exactly what's going on and you could actually deal with that particular problem.
01:28:45.000So that's my perspective, my point of view from this entire kind of saga.
01:29:37.000These people are funneling money and doing a ton of really bad stuff.
01:29:39.000But my view of it is kind of like, imagine your house is on fire and there's big raging flames.
01:29:45.000And so you're like, the first thing we have to do is go to the electrical socket in the basement where the fire started and tell everyone that's where the fire started.
01:29:54.000My attitude is kind of like, why don't we get everybody to put the greater fire out, and then we go to the source of the fire and disable it, like turn the power off, or something like that.
01:30:03.000Or, you know, you could try and find a way to shut the power off first, but, you know, where the fire is starting from... It's a fair point to say that I think there's arguments for both our sides on this one.
01:30:16.000One could be that if there is a leak in a ship, And the water is flooding up the ship, and you say, we must bail the water, you're not stopping the fact the water is still filling up.
01:30:26.000Right, so to Luke's point, it's like, everyone find the hole first, and then we bail the water.
01:30:32.000Luke's point is, hey, there's a crazy guy putting more holes in the boat.
01:30:36.000Right now there's a crazy guy adding more fuel to the fire right now and it's going to get really out of hand unless we stop this one guy who started the fire and making the fire that much worse right now as we're speaking.
01:30:46.000And I'd like to point out that there is another kingdom that is paying people to come put holes in our boats so let's see if we can fix that.
01:30:52.000It's super interesting though because even Lydia's back there and she's got her own like ways of viewing it.
01:30:57.000For me this is the community this is just a microcosm of the community It takes all kinds.
01:31:04.000Somebody was just on Aubrey Marcus's podcast, it was a rabbi, Mordecai, I think, and he was saying like, you know, I have no problem with conspiracy theorists because I don't invest myself in what they believe.
01:31:18.000I think back, who were they in the tribe?
01:31:20.000Who do you want the paranoid, always vigilant person in the tribe to be?
01:31:29.000And part of what we're talking about with values is we don't have to pretend like people in our community don't get on our nerves and don't trigger us in some ways.
01:31:39.000But the bottom line is if we can't see any value in what's happening in front of us, then we're missing some kind of lesson or gift in it.
01:31:48.000Which is why it's hard with what's going on in the country right now, but I'm really taking a look at it.
01:31:53.000When I look at the conspiratorial lens of what's happening in the world right now, I'm more curious.
01:32:06.000I won't even go into explaining it, but what I'm saying by that is I really think that reality is weirder than most any of us can put into words, so the best thing we can do is find some kind of harmony together.
01:32:20.000Whatever that actually looks like, some kind of harmony together, and that does not happen without community coming together under some premise, under some story.
01:33:56.000If you hide it and try to pretend like it's not there, it festers and builds up and explodes in another area of your life.
01:34:01.000So it's important to express yourself and assert yourself as a human being and not play these bullcrap social rules that are just made up and are nonsensical.
01:34:10.000I mean, there's being respectful and stuff like that.
01:34:13.000And sometimes people get angry, but I really, there are a lot of shows, there are a lot of commentators that can't, you know, there's a lot of people on the right.
01:34:29.000When the judge said this NBC reporter and this other person, producer, tons of people
01:34:34.000immediately said this producer did it.
01:34:37.000And my response was, for all we know, it was Antifa driving, trying to track the jury down,
01:34:42.000and then just lied and said they were up to the press because we've seen that happen before.
01:34:46.000I think it's, you know, we've got to be very careful not to immediately just jump on bandwagons or just do it for tribal reasons, but there are some people with big channels, with powerful followings, that would absolutely just say whatever they think.
01:34:58.000People want to hear if it gets them more and more viewers.
01:35:00.000But I'll tell you this, when I came out and argued with Luke, a bunch of people left.
01:35:05.000Look, you're free to leave if you don't like it, but I'm not gonna sit here and just pretend my feelings are something else in hopes that people stay.
01:35:10.000You probably evoked something inside them that they weren't ready to handle, and that's important to have on a show.
01:35:17.000You know, because a lot of people are waiting... I could be wrong.
01:35:19.000Well, you know, the thing is, is like, either one of you might be more right than the other, but I think the underlying important factor is that you had the conversation so the greater community could hear two very valid points, and that helps refine their blade of discernment.
01:35:35.000I think this is far more important than just covering news.
01:35:38.000I think it's far more important than just covering, this happened in the news today.
01:35:41.000No, we need to get passionate, we need to get involved, and we need to express our ideas in a non-scripted way that truly tell the audience who we really are.
01:35:50.000Because there's nothing narrated here, there's nothing It's us having a normal reaction and a normal conversation without any of these kind of paradigms that all these other mainstream media family-friendly show.
01:36:05.000I can't say what I want to say, but all these other mainstream media hypocrites live by.
01:37:31.000But we're gonna get into that too because we got some crazy data coming out of the UK that we're gonna talk about in the members only segment.
01:37:53.000All right, Amanda Dilt says, Hernandez's video leading up Rosenbaum shows Rosenbaum chasing Rittenhouse, drops extinguisher, and runs through lot, not once pointing gun at anybody.
01:38:04.000Not only that, something came out where the jury said, can we get the video of Rittenhouse putting down the fire extinguisher?
01:39:13.000I think we have a right to express ourselves, especially in front of government institutions.
01:39:18.000But that does mean that bad people will do bad things and it's going to freak the jury out and then you end up with, you know, these bad cases.
01:39:24.000The greater issue is the culture as it is.
01:39:26.000The right is unwilling to engage in violence the way the left is.
01:39:30.000So the jurors know the fear is not acquittal.
01:39:34.000I'm sorry, the fear is not conviction.
01:39:36.000If the jurors convict, they know the right will grumble.
01:39:39.000If they acquit, they know they'll be threatened with their lives because the left is extreme violent and protected by the media and the institutions and the establishment.
01:39:47.000It's so mind-bending how people can coordinate now, in the last 20 years since social media has basically been invented, and how culture can be so rapidly formed and dissolved and altered by, like, a meme.
01:40:00.000Like, and then that controls the politics of the world.
01:40:06.000Like, a million people, like, how people can protest, be like, hey, tomorrow be at this place at this time, and 100 million people, or a million people, or 10,000 people, it's like, what the?
01:40:15.000How do we protect jurors in this world?
01:40:20.000Mass mobilization is a crazy thing the Founding Fathers did not have to deal with.
01:40:36.000Hanlon's Razor, of course, is never a tribute to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence.
01:40:42.000However, in this instance, I cited, I think, three examples of MSNBC manipulating the news.
01:40:48.000So then when you find out an MSNBC employee was tracking the jury van, And we know the judge already said this can't happen and won't happen again.
01:40:57.000There's no attribute to incompetence there.
01:40:59.000Then you're just, you know, being a fool.
01:41:03.000And then, as it pertains to the prosecution, they committed several grave constitutional violations.
01:41:09.000So at that point, we stop giving them the benefit of the doubt and assuming they're just bad at their job.
01:41:59.000I should have sent in evidence because it probably would have appeared in the trial.
01:42:03.000I mean, that's how much oversight I'm seeing here.
01:42:07.000Brandon Taylor says the defense's tech lady said the lower resolution version was created 21 minutes and 19 seconds after the larger file they received was created.
01:42:15.000So I just don't see a reality in which the defense is like, we're given two files anonymously, I'll send only one.
01:42:22.000Because that would imply that they were supposed to send both.
01:42:48.000Tony Nalagan says Handbrick is an activity log file in GHB directory that recorded the file names of the source, output file and timestamps, under oath, subpoena, seize the laptop, but you know what?
01:43:56.000Andy F says Krause claimed the detective sent him two versions and the second version was messed up.
01:44:00.000He gave some reason the detective did it, but I can't remember what it was.
01:44:04.000So, if the file was created 21 minutes after the video they got, then the detective created both?
01:44:10.000There's no scenario in which it makes sense that an anonymous source Sent two files to the detective, created within 21 minutes of each other, and then the detective sent both, one was messed up, and then the prosecution just failed to deliver the high-res version.
01:46:08.000New York City, Los Angeles, Washington D.C., Chicago.
01:46:12.000So I'll tell you this, we got the mobile RV here, the studio.
01:46:16.000Is the crew gonna be able to drive it back if riots erupt over the weekend?
01:46:20.000Hopefully probably it's Texas to the east coast and I'm really driving through any big crazy cities or anything like that But mistrial with prejudice, I think if the judge says mistrial mistrial with prejudice.
01:46:30.000I think we may actually get George Floyd level riots I'm just saying I think it's possible.
01:46:35.000I'm not saying it's definitive and the reason is just It would send a message to the left That the judge is everything they feared, and he knows Rittenhouse is guilty, but he's gonna let them go, and that's gonna be their narrative, and they're gonna be like, it's worse.
01:47:37.000Little Tales Farm says, Hey Tim, Jack Posobiec just said on Telegram that Kyle's defense lawyer says he believes it's a 6-6 deadlock with a jury just now.
01:48:15.000There is an argument they want a mistrial, but without prejudice.
01:48:18.000Or, if Binger really is the cult member ideologue, some people have accused him of being, he purposely wants to sabotage, trigger a mistrial with prejudice, to make... Now they should make a movie about that.
01:49:05.000So, uh, Slenzer says mistrial without prejudice is bad for defense.
01:49:10.000It's like taking off your shoes at TSA doesn't protect you from the next bad, uh, from the next thing bad actors do, but this will dramatically alter their use of the video evidence and the drone stuff.
01:49:21.000It'll call everything Kraus did into question.
01:49:24.000If there's a mistrial without prejudice and then they still investigate what Kraus did, it could result in just charges not being refiled for political reasons and practical reasons.
01:49:34.000We have this other one, this is from Chet Chisolm, he says, Barnes mentioned that if it's a mistrial, then that means they may be trying to run Kyle's funds down to zero so he can't defend adequately.
01:49:45.000Because the prosecution knows that Kyle Rittenhouse is not just funded by himself.
01:49:49.000This is the biggest, it's a high-profile trial, and if they did that, and the defense team for Rittenhouse came out and made a video and said, we need your support, they would raise two million bucks in ten minutes.
01:50:02.000Um, and maybe, it may be, but Rittenhouse, his team, they will have the support of the people because even the progressives have started acknowledging that it looked like self-defense.
01:50:13.000They're like, maybe we're wrong about this and we were wrong about that.
01:50:16.000You're going to get too many people being like, I will give you 50 bucks and then he's going to have all the funds for it.
01:50:21.000And in fact, this may result in a bigger defense team.
01:50:42.000Yeah, he writes for Legal Insurrection.
01:50:43.000You guys definitely want to check him out when it comes to cases like this.
01:50:46.000He just... When I read a bunch of news articles and I get a bunch of words and I'm like, that's interesting.
01:50:50.000When I read his, he like breaks down like the elements of self-defense and goes through the details and I'm like, That's just a better analysis, you know what I mean?
01:50:58.000But I also like Rakeda Law's streams with all the lawyers, too, because, you know, then you're hearing from a lot of different people, and there's a bit of a, you know, here's this, here's that.
01:51:05.000I wonder if, like, the defense can just get, like, a panel from Rakeda to, like, advise in the background, because then they'd win.
01:51:34.000So now we're getting to the Super Chats where everyone was spamming, Luke is right, Tim shut up, Luke is 100% correct, listen Tim, Luke is right, let Luke speak the truth.
01:53:45.000That's the thinking that the elites want you to have.
01:53:47.000The common man wants the best for him and his family or her and her family.
01:53:52.000And I think if we could just understand that most people are good deep down.
01:53:58.000They're not psychopathic people who hang out with Jeffrey Epstein and do unspeakable things to children in the name of some kind of weird multi-dimensional religion.
01:54:06.000Luke and I were in Korea and we did political compass tests and I was center left and he was like a mirror image like we were like inversions like right in the middle libertarian center left center right.
01:54:18.000I think that's a good example of what it is like I think we're actually both right but kind of not seeing exactly what it is and I got frustrated.
01:54:25.000You get intense reverberations, and then the Casimir effect.
01:54:28.000I think that's what causes gravity, I'm not sure.
01:54:30.000There's also the danger of, like, typecasting all people and saying, that's not the way to do it, that's not the way to do it.
01:54:38.000That's the reason why, you know, like, Stewart Copeland and Sting, they hated one another, and Sting wanted a different kind of drum sound, and Stewart said no, and you got police coming out of it.
01:55:37.000I think him, Schwab, the Davos group, like you guys really got to take a look at what goes on in Davos for the World Economic Forum.
01:55:44.000It's not just the World Economic Forum.
01:55:46.000There's this big peripheral institution around it.
01:55:50.000All these people show up, setting up pop-ups, boutiques, all promoting much of the exact same ideas.
01:55:56.000So you have, this is crazy, like, I went to Davos during the World Economic Forum, I couldn't get into the actual thing, I was in the pop-ups.
01:56:03.000But you actually have, like, on a mountain, basically, at the top, all of the global elites being like, here are the issues of the world, and we're talking, it's the World Economic Forum.
01:56:12.000And then outside, you have, like, the nobles.
01:56:16.000Who are all like, the kings are all correct, and let's bask, and they're walking around, and you've got high-ranking, you know, politicians, and the family members, and all that stuff, all laughing, and, you know, cheersing, and drinking, you know, beer outside of the palace.
01:56:30.000And then, in far, far away, where the actual peasants are tilling the fields, they have no idea what's going on.
01:56:37.000I guess my point there is just that it's not just the royalty, it's the nobility that, you know, shuffles around underneath and then opens their mouths as a refuse pours from the palace.
01:56:47.000The court, the king's court that lives within the castle and the castle grounds.
01:56:52.000Also, everything they talk about makes some sense in the futuristic technological world that we're living in.
01:57:01.000The last thing that I saw from them is they're talking about reshaping food systems from farm to lab as well, but basically using science and data to revolutionize whole food systems and to homogenize it.
01:57:13.000So instead of having like individual, you know, groups being able to feed individual areas, every one across the board, if this goes through, will be run by a singular system.
01:57:25.000Now that just seems like common sense in a world that does want some kind of global top-down rule.
01:57:35.000With food, that's dangerous to uniform food because if like a virus or a bacteria emerges that destroys a certain type of food or a fungus or something and then we've all we've created our entire system based on like a specific kind of potato that could be very dangerous.
01:57:50.000They're talking about land use mainly they're talking about how do we use land you know will they get to the point where they're like let's take imminent domain to a global level and talk about how are we gonna feed by 2050 10 billion people which is their projections so they're they're already in the long game thinking of 2050.
01:58:07.000I'll give- Luke mentioned this but we have a super chat too.
01:58:10.000Uncle Sam says my view on who to blame.
01:58:40.000And it's probably because I come from, you know, a more, like, lefty libertarian perspective where it's like, get as many of the working class and little people to share your idea, and then it affects the greater system above.
01:58:52.000But I think, you know, I think we both made our points and we're both, like, probably in agreement with each other, just kind of, like, slightly on the other side.
01:58:59.000Let's see, Monkey Wang says Alex Jones explains the Bill Gates situation better than Luke, and that's scary.
01:59:08.000Well, going on, you know, I was on Infowars with Jones, and he would say things that sounded outlandish to me, and I'd be like, I don't know about that, and he'd be like, it's proven, it's confirmed, it's declassified, and I'd be like, okay.
01:59:19.000And then he'd be like, anyway, moving on.
01:59:20.000It's like, I don't know, I can't really say anything to something I don't know.
02:00:37.000When did he go on and what did they argue about?
02:00:39.000Well, I mean, to be honest, like I didn't get through more than 20 minutes because of my day wouldn't allow it.
02:00:45.000But I mean, he started off Michael Malice was just like, I'm going to run through a bunch of first, I'm going to tell you conspiracy theory isn't just one thing.
02:00:52.000A lot of people love making things like super simplistic.
02:00:56.000But then he was like, you know, okay, Loch Ness Monster.
02:01:43.000I've been so intrigued watching Alex Jones' ideas, because so many people discard him out of hand, and I'm like, I don't think you can safely do that.
02:01:52.000I think that he should be an inspiration to kind of look into some of this stuff for yourself, because he says things that are true in a way that's very hyperbolic, and I think it turns some people off from it, but it's like, yo, you should check it out.
02:02:05.000Well, everyone should be held accountable for their actions, and there's a lot to say about individuals and what they said before.
02:02:22.000VT says, I agree with you, Tim, on the importance of building culture.
02:02:25.000Disagreements happen in society, and demonstrating how to have a conversation with opposing views on your show can help build a stronger culture.
02:02:45.000As long as you don't manipulate people in order to try to convince them that your side is better.
02:02:50.000I think that's the big difference because, and that needs to be addressed here, because if you're thinking humanity is dumb and stupid and you need to manipulate them to think like you are, you're becoming what you're fighting and that's what I want to not do and that's why I think I had such a strong reaction towards this myself.
02:03:04.000So we got one more, and the only one we didn't get is the Ben is right, but this is... Tim's wrong, Luke's wrong, Ian's wrong, Lydia's right.
02:05:02.000I got Charles Eisenstein right now helping with like the future of where technology could go.
02:05:09.000And so yeah, I got some really good people working on that, but because I was working on the Aubrey Marcus film, I haven't made much headway past development.
02:05:31.000I just mean, like, I want to know everything there is to know about the research and the culture and what they've been doing, what they've discovered with it.
02:05:38.000DMT, I think, may be one of the most fascinating things to me.
02:05:46.000There's also a lot of fraud shamans out there, so be careful with that.
02:05:49.000But there's also prisons in Brazil using DMT.
02:05:52.000to help prisoners get over uh you know being murderers and other there's crazy stories surrounding it but to to what you were saying maybe this is why space is is is so dark uh but that's another thing but i remember watching your movies all the way back in in the 2000s what was it climatica and then was what was the other one Esoteric agenda.
02:06:25.000But if you want yours, you can get it on thebestpoliticalshorts.com.
02:06:28.000And of course, I have a YouTube channel where I was translating German once again on my YouTube channel, which you definitely want to watch.
02:06:36.000I had a lot of fun doing that on youtube.com forward slash we are change.
02:07:04.000If you want to check out my website, it's iancrossland.net, and I will catch you guys later.
02:07:07.000Yeah, and I just want to leave you guys with a thought that Carl Jung had, which is that people don't have ideas, ideas have people.
02:07:13.000People like Bill Gates and George Soros are living out an idea that we're better off understanding before we try to attack the symptoms of the idea.