Norm Macdonald was a comedian, stand-up comic, and actor. He passed away this morning at the age of 76, and we're here to talk about it. We also talk about the mass shootings in Aurora, Colorado and Boston, and some of the crazy things going on around the world.
00:00:18.000He was battling cancer for about a decade privately.
00:00:21.000You know, he didn't want to make it public, I guess, because it's not who he was, and he wanted to just keep those struggles between him and his family and stuff.
00:00:30.000And I can respect it, but to me, this came as a big shock, hearing that he had passed.
00:00:36.000And right now, people are posting all of these really incredible bits that he did.
00:00:41.000We actually just referenced him in this past week a couple times because of this bit he did where he threw back the social justice narrative in the face of these woke personalities.
00:01:12.000Major bummer because we could definitely use more people like him right now but uh you know again uh my respects condolences everybody's pretty bummed on it but we got a bunch of very serious and important news to talk about the craziest was this report that we saw the other day massachusetts has deployed the national guard to drive children to school Because their labor infrastructure is falling apart to that extent.
00:01:35.000In New York, they're apparently going to be shutting down maternity wards because nurses are all quitting due to vaccine mandates.
00:01:41.000We got another story about a lieutenant colonel who's resigning over vaccine mandates.
00:02:06.000So now we're hearing the courts in New York are reversing the mandate on medical workers that barred exemptions, in which case seems like they're hoping they can bring back some employees because they're driving them all away, but we'll see.
00:02:21.000We're getting that stuff and, um, you know, I don't want to lead with this because I did it for my main segment, but probably one of the biggest stories of our generation is General Mark Milley engaged in, uh, I mean, to put it lightly, I'll put it colloquially, Treasonous behavior?
00:02:40.000He made secret phone calls to Chinese military to warn them about U.S.
00:02:45.000military actions, assuring them we wouldn't take action against them and that if Donald Trump intended to, he would inform them right away.
00:02:52.000He did this in October of 2020, before the election even took place.
00:02:56.000He had a meeting on January 8th where he called together a bunch of senior officers and had them swear an oath to him that if Donald Trump gave them orders, they would come to him first, which is a military coup.
00:03:29.000I've been in the States for about six weeks now.
00:03:31.000I think this is my eighth or ninth stop in terms of cities.
00:03:35.000So I got off to Hawaii tomorrow morning and many more stops after that.
00:03:41.000You know, I gotta say, I mentioned this before, but on one of our shows, because you had this Twitter thread that had gone viral, and I'm like, very often we'll see a public conversation around some ideas that originated from your tweets.
00:03:52.000Like, you'll have some insight into a circumstance or whatever, and then all of a sudden I see everybody, like, piecing it together.
00:03:59.000Like, you're the first one to the party, you know what I mean?
00:04:03.000I've even seen a lot of times where I'll talk about something on Twitter and then I'll listen to the Joe Rogan podcast like in the next couple days, and you know, he'll reference it directly or it'll be similar.
00:04:23.000I think when people think of reach, they typically think of platforms like YouTube or maybe podcasts or even Facebook or Instagram.
00:04:30.000But in my case, Twitter in particular for me has just been really powerful.
00:04:34.000Your music does well, but it's like you're a famous philosopher at this point, basically.
00:04:38.000No, but for real, like when it comes to like something will happen in the news, you know, you're typically the first person to put the pieces together that I notice.
00:04:48.000Well, I think a lot about the human condition and why things are the way they are.
00:04:54.000Why I, you, why, why do people behave the way that they behave?
00:04:58.000So I think a lot of people view me through quite a political lens and sometimes I delve into politics, but really I'm much more interested in society and culture and human psychology, morality, all of that stuff, which leans into politics and it leans into religion as well.
00:05:13.000But really I'm just trying to work things out, understand.
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00:07:30.000The second thing is, aside from the fact that it's sort of, you know, it's like a military move to support the crumbling infrastructure, Our economy's on fire.
00:07:39.000I don't know about you guys in the UK.
00:08:15.000We're living in the strangest time period.
00:08:17.000And what's crazy is that all of us who are able to foresee some of these second, third, and fourth order consequences were labeled all sorts of names, right?
00:08:28.000So from the beginning of this whole pandemic situation, going way back, I was far more concerned about the response and the downstream repercussions of that response economically, financially, people's health, people missing diagnoses of other diseases, people's mental well-being, depression, suicide, effect on children, all of this stuff, a whole bunch of things I haven't even mentioned.
00:08:53.000I mean, if you remember back to, say, about 14-15 months ago, people were acting like it was some toss-up between saving lives and saving the economy.
00:09:02.000When people were talking about the economy, they were saying, oh, you know, you want people to die, you don't care about grandma, you're putting money above people.
00:09:08.000That's what people were saying, because they don't understand that the economy is the people.
00:09:13.000If people aren't working, then There's repercussions of that.
00:09:17.000In my country, like the NHS, it was all, save the NHS, save the NHS.
00:09:20.000I'm always like, how do you think the NHS is funded?
00:09:23.000If people aren't working, then you're not saving the NHS.
00:09:26.000You're actually going to eventually bankrupt it.
00:09:29.000And it's already in a tight, it was already in a tight position before all this.
00:09:32.000But the thing is, when people are gripped by fear, they lose their ability to think logically and rationally.
00:09:38.000Elon Musk tweeted that meme where it was like an astronaut on the moon and a comet rips through the earth blowing it up and then he's like, oh no, the economy or something like that.
00:09:47.000There were a bunch of people who were posting dinosaurs looking up at the, you know, the meteor coming down and they were like, oh no, the economy.
00:09:53.000And I'm just like, I see this stuff and I'm like, man.
00:09:57.000It's like you said, the people who can see down the road, who can see the second, third, fourth, you know, fifth layer consequences to this, are telling them like, dude, you have no idea what's in store.
00:10:08.000And even right now, you know, we're hearing a story about the National Guard being deployed.
00:10:12.000Well, what does it mean when the government starts deploying military to handle infrastructure?
00:10:16.000You get dangerously close to such infrastructure damage, that martial law is a real possibility.
00:10:39.000Not through force, you know, just through, like, where it's wanted, where it's needed, where people need drinking water.
00:10:45.000I hear what you're saying, but I recognize if they were like, hey, we've got a National Guard and we're gonna do, like, fixing this road and You know, fixing the pipes in Flint, and maybe helping build new houses in Middle America.
00:10:58.000But this issue is, our infrastructure is crippled to the point where they're like, if we don't have people working, use military.
00:11:06.000Like, I'm not gonna pretend like this guarantees we're headed towards communist dictatorship or something.
00:11:13.000But when you get to the point where your military is being used for critical infrastructure, if that continues, and more jobs are lost, which is happening, and more nurses are quitting, more doctors are quitting, how long until they're like, oh, they've already deployed National Guard for hospitals, how long until they're like, okay, plumbing, how long until they're like, the critical infrastructure of this country is being run by the military?
00:11:34.000There's a big difference between using the military to do good and having no choice but to use the military, because that's a deep spiral that could Get out of control, I think.
00:11:41.000What's the proper role of the National Guard?
00:11:44.000I'm familiar with the term, but I don't know... What exactly is its role supposed to be?
00:12:02.000They're deployed in riots and things like that.
00:12:04.000Uh, they're not supposed to, it's my understanding, I could be wrong with this, because I was not in the National Guard or the military, so you guys might know better.
00:12:09.000They're not supposed to enforce laws necessarily, but provide support internally, whereas the Army, the Navy, the Marines, mostly external defense of this nation, they can't enforce laws internally, so...
00:12:21.000This says here, during peacetime, this is from military.com, each state National Guard answers to the leadership in the 50 states, three territories, and District of Columbia.
00:12:29.000During national emergencies, however, the President reserves the right to mobilize the National Guard, putting them in federal duty status.
00:12:35.000Yeah, so we see them deployed for riots pretty often.
00:12:39.000Floods, natural disasters, they come out and they provide that critical support in major disasters.
00:12:43.000So I think it's fair to say that we're looking at an economic disaster right now.
00:12:47.000My concern is this is not a disaster that ends.
00:12:50.000You know, hurricane comes in, hurricane leaves.
00:13:30.000We're not even talking February or March 2020.
00:13:34.000At this point, where you've got the majority of the population have already got immunity, not just in the USA, but in lots of other countries.
00:15:24.000Yeah, I'd call that incompetence, because if you are a leader, part of your job is to lead and to make decisions and to have principles and to stand on them.
00:15:36.000So if you're not willing to do that, then you're not competent in that position.
00:16:34.000So incompetence doesn't necessarily mean, I think some people think it means like stupidity or, but it's, it's really more lack of ability in a particular thing.
00:16:42.000You could also have malicious people that are incompetent.
00:16:50.000But if you look around the world and you see the way things are marching in lockstep, that can't be accidental, right?
00:16:57.000How is it that all these different countries, I mean, look at the Commonwealth countries, how is it all these different countries are doing things which Like literally prior to last year were totally unthinkable.
00:17:09.000The concept, whether you're even from, from a simple lockdown to something as simple as a mask, like this is unprecedented.
00:17:16.000When was there ever like lockdown was just prison terminology, right?
00:17:20.000We've had diseases, we've had vaccines, we've had all these things our entire lives, but all of a sudden it's this and it's that, and it's that, and all these different countries are doing the same thing.
00:17:29.000There's a couple of things I'll say to that.
00:17:30.000Are you familiar with the concept of a standalone complex?
00:17:33.000So a conspiracy, a group of people coordinate the effort, then take action, and then you'd see a bunch of banks get robbed, and you're like, what is this conspiracy?
00:17:41.000A standalone complex would be, say, you know, 50 banks get robbed in every state at the same time, and you're like, this must be planned and coordinated.
00:17:49.000But a standalone complex means that each individual took independent action that just coincided with other similar actions, creating the appearance of a conspiracy.
00:17:56.000Which can be exacerbated by copycat crimes and things.
00:17:59.000So if one, especially with social media, if one person makes a bad move in a government, all the other governments are going to be like, hey.
00:18:54.000So when all of these countries do the same thing, it's because they sit there and they watch one country do something, and they go, do what they did.
00:19:03.000So, you know, often when it comes to chickens, I'll throw in some food objects they've never seen before, and the seven outside will come and look at it, and then one will eat it, and then as soon as they do, everyone then's like, oh, okay, I can eat this.
00:19:15.000So probably a better example is business.
00:19:18.000As we're growing TimCast.com and hiring more people, we're running into these bureaucratic problems, and we're running into just general issues with running a business, and then it turns out the solutions are exactly what the infrastructure has provided.
00:19:31.000Like, why are there services that provide HR services?
00:19:34.000It's like, oh, because we encountered this issue, and that's why all the businesses do things this way.
00:19:40.000So I don't necessarily think it's a conspiracy or anything like that, or not to imply that you were saying it was.
00:19:44.000But to see all these countries doing the same thing, I think it's two things.
00:19:47.000One, they have no idea what they're doing, so they're simply like, I don't know, do what they did.
00:19:51.000And the other thing is, you know, well, I guess that's basically it, right?
00:19:55.000If they can't perceive of how to deal with this, then they just absolve themselves of responsibility, do what everyone has done elsewhere, because then they can act like they're doing something.
00:20:04.000Because you'll often hear from many on the left saying, well, we can't do nothing, when in reality, nothing is often the right thing to do.
00:20:35.000I don't know exactly how you'd be able to calculate the total harm and deaths caused by all this, but these things have long-term repercussions.
00:20:43.000I mean, if you remember back to the financial crisis in 2008, There's still repercussions from what happened 13 years ago.
00:21:05.000I think literally 10 years from now, you're still going to have issues which originated, again, not because of the virus itself, but because of the response to it, whether or not That is intentional or that is a matter of incompetence or some combination.
00:21:58.000And they're going to be born in different circumstances.
00:22:01.000This will have a profound impact on this country for 40, 70 years.
00:22:07.000So I take a look now, we were talking about this the other day, about these young democratic socialist types, these Gen Zers, who are in their 20s and they're socialists.
00:22:15.000And they don't care to interact in good faith on Twitter.
00:22:19.000They'll say something like pronouns in the bio, right?
00:22:24.000If there's pronouns in the bio, just ignore it.
00:22:27.000Well, so I've tried in good faith interacting with people, and they'll say something inflammatory.
00:22:32.000I'll respond with a simple point, not inflammatory, and then they'll respond with derision and insults.
00:22:37.000And you know what I think is that these are the kids of the 2008 financial crisis.
00:22:41.000They were kids growing up at a time when their parents were hurting, and then as they get older, and millennials also, a lot of them, you live in this nightmare dystopia of financial crises and warped values, celebrities ultra-rich for, you know, photoshopping their faces on Instagram.
00:23:05.000You know, everything they said about Trump and Trump supporters is them.
00:23:09.000Voting for Joe Biden was the right thing to do because Trump was bad.
00:23:12.000But they accused Trump supporters of voting for Trump because it was a troll or it was a game.
00:23:17.000What we have now is a generation of people who don't care about the outcomes, don't have strong moral values, Generally don't care other than, you know, I don't know.
00:23:31.000The cost of what you don't do because of what you did.
00:23:35.000Like if you choose to do this, all these other things that you didn't do have a cost because you could have made money or made things from all those things that you didn't do.
00:23:42.000The opportunity cost of the war in Iraq is now we have psychotic people walking around that think it's normal to be at war.
00:23:49.000Kids stressed out because their parents are stressed out.
00:23:51.000They creating to imagine that growing up imagine growing up with like a leave it to beaver family You know you walk in and there's a big stack of pancakes and bacon and they're like go to school and work hard son You're like, oh joy and your problems were mostly like interpersonal issues, but not my family lost their house We're struggling.
00:24:10.000There's homeless people everywhere now.
00:24:12.000Take a look at the kids being born today and Yikes, man.
00:24:32.000Yeah, I think a big problem as well, and I touch on this a lot, is I always say that in the modern West, there's something that a lot of people lack and those two things are perspective and gratitude.
00:24:44.000Because I was kind of having this conversation with Lydia earlier, which is that It's simultaneously true that things are going crazy and it's kind of scary and this is getting worse and that's getting worse and this is bad.
00:24:58.000But when you kind of zoom out on a historical level or on a global level, you're still like, man, we live in, we live on some, in some fantasy island.
00:25:07.000I mean, just what we're doing right here is magical.
00:25:10.000Any of our ancestors would just see this.
00:25:12.000They'll be like, wait, they'll be like, wait.
00:25:13.000How is my great-great-grandson earning a living and making money?
00:25:31.000We can see the sheer amount of opportunity that's out there as well.
00:25:36.000Phenomenal, like what I do for a living, what you do for a living, even just a couple decades ago, even 15 years ago, it wouldn't have been able to be possible in the way that it is now.
00:25:45.000So we live in this weird, there's this weird, I don't know the right word, juxtaposition Where simultaneously it's like, oh man, like this is really worrying.
00:26:03.000People are wanting to embrace radical ideas and cause this division and whatever.
00:26:07.000But then on the flip side, you're also like, man, compared to previous decades and previous centuries, Things are amazing and you look around the world and it's like, oh wow, actually, you know, where would you rather be?
00:26:19.000You get all these people mad, the USA, blah blah blah.
00:26:21.000It's like, okay, well, where do you want to move to?
00:26:23.000Who is that comedian who was cranking in front of all those women he got in trouble for?
00:26:51.000Simple is, uh, Simple Version is, uh, this dude created this space where he put, I think he put in like eight rats or whatever, gave them unlimited food and water, and just, that's it.
00:27:20.000And so this was the concept he called behavioral sync.
00:27:23.000Now the problem is, this is really fascinating, we had Shane, who's writing for our Mysteries show, and he does articles on the site, talked to Brett Weinstein about this.
00:27:31.000And Brett said that one of the problems with laboratory mice is they don't inherit information like wild mice and rats do.
00:27:39.000Every species inherits some kind of knowledge from their parent.
00:27:42.000Like I mentioned earlier, I got these baby chickens that are completely raised by humans and they don't know to eat bugs.
00:27:48.000But if the babies are raised by the parent chicken, the parent shows them to eat bugs.
00:27:52.000So they're not getting access to that information.
00:27:56.000I think we're experiencing some kind of behavioral sync where we've gotten to the point where everything is so good That we've just lost perspective.
00:28:23.000I mean, you have to, if you live in a country like the US, UK, Canada, and you know, and you're just decently well off, you literally have to go out of your way.
00:28:33.000If you want to be strong and resilient, both mentally and physically, you have to deliberately go out of your way to create hardship.
00:28:40.000Like I'm really into weightlifting, powerlifting, bodybuilding and stuff.
00:28:43.000It's like, and sometimes I laugh at the concept.
00:28:47.000Cause I'm like, I'm literally artificially doing stuff that previous generations or ancestors, like the concept of this would be silly to them.
00:28:57.000And you have to do that because if you don't, just your day-to-day life is so sedentary and so inactive that your body is going to go to crap if you don't actually create that intentional hardship.
00:29:14.000And I think like, I mean, if again, if you think of human beings, it's so recent, and it's only in a certain part of the world so far where you can even where you even have this luxury, right?
00:29:26.000All of our ancestors just just to survive, right?
00:29:44.000You got to, you got to farm, you got to pull out some vegetables, or you got to go hunt an animal, chase.
00:29:48.000I'm sure you've probably seen these documentaries where people are like chasing one animal for like 12 hours or something, and then they kill it.
00:29:54.000And I'm just like, that's more close actually to the human norm than the way that we live.
00:31:18.000And that's kind of part of, also part of the problem is people are going in to the mind and playing all these games to create trauma and like, exert effort and things.
00:31:26.000And I don't know, man, I think a lot of that might be tweaking people.
00:31:28.000I think that's also why, you know, this this is, I have no scientific background on this particular idea, but I have a kind of hypothesis, which is that there's a level of let's say anxiety.
00:31:44.000There's a level of anxiety that typically is deployed just in being able to survive being able to get food and fight against the elements and fight against disease, you know potential physical violence all of that which If you're living in a hard place or in a hard time, naturally gets expended bit by bit on a daily basis.
00:32:06.000And I think that part of the reason why you're seeing rises in even mental health issues and people saying, you know, I'm anxious, I'm depressed, all of this stuff.
00:32:15.000I think some of it stems from this energy or this anxiety building up and not being dissipated anywhere.
00:32:22.000I think it's also why minor threats get so exaggerated, right?
00:32:28.000Whether you're talking about the words or violence brigade, we need space spaces and
00:32:32.000trigger warnings and you know, and if you, what happens if you misgender somebody, what
00:33:15.000There's some people who think that, you know, there's a 50 percent chance, you know, you get you get the Rona and you're getting hospitalized no matter how old you are.
00:33:21.000You've got people running around saying, you know, I'm terrified.
00:33:24.000I don't think it's safe for kids to go back to school.
00:33:27.000And I'm like, man, statistically, the flu is two to four times more dangerous and deadly to children than this virus, and nobody is freaking out about the flu.
00:33:40.000Nobody did freak out about the flu, and it's literally more deadly.
00:33:43.000Well, to be fair, the issue with coronavirus, with COVID, was the novel, meaning that with the flu, there's different levels of immunity among different populations.
00:33:54.000So this is why the flu pandemic of 1918 didn't affect China as much, because they had previously been hit by a similar strain.
00:34:00.000So when it came back around more deadly, they had some degree of herd immunity.
00:34:04.000With COVID, the fear is it's going to rapidly mutate.
00:34:07.000It's going to infect everybody to varying degrees.
00:34:10.000Might not be as dangerous for kids, but it could infect other people because it's going to sweep across, you know, hit more people.
00:34:15.000So we do see, I guess it's a fair point that in kids, we don't see the level of risk.
00:34:21.000Ultimately, I think the problem is whether or not you go through the data and you look at, you know, I think the death rate for COVID is like double what the flu is.
00:34:34.000But the flu, it's still similar with older people.
00:34:36.000Older people are substantially more susceptible to the flu than younger people.
00:34:39.000The issue ultimately is that we learn to live with the flu.
00:34:43.000We look at the CDC study that says there's 80% immunity, I think, and we should accept that at this point and be like, okay, so we got something that's bad.
00:34:50.000It's worse than the flu, but we're not changing it, right?
00:34:53.000So how about we protect the vulnerable, like we've been saying for over a year, We got the vaccine available.
00:34:58.00080% of people have some level of immunity, CDC says, and mostly based on the vaccine.
00:35:02.000It sounds like we did what we could do.
00:35:04.000And that's why I was saying earlier, maybe at this point, nothing is actually what you need to do.
00:35:09.000At this point, we need to accept like... Just get back to normal life, man.
00:35:12.000You know, take people, have their, can do their own individual risk analysis.
00:35:26.000There's been this weird notion of absolute strangers suddenly pretending that they care more about you and they care more about your parents and they care more about your grandma and your family than you do, which is utterly absurd.
00:35:39.000They don't know who you are, let alone like your family.
00:35:41.000When these people on Twitter refer to the unvaccinated as plague rats, and when they say things like, you're stupid, you're a moron, and they cheer for people like Joe Rogan getting sick, you think I'm supposed to- I'm gonna believe they care about me or anybody else?
00:36:02.000You made a pretty profound point a minute ago when you were saying that it's like genetically we're used to this anxiety daily of surviving and now that there's no, it's like, wait, I'm supposed to be anxious about something.
00:36:21.000They're doing something to succeed by this.
00:36:23.000It's something, you know, but maybe it is to do nothing.
00:36:26.000I think you're right, Ian, and I think that one of the things that we're hugely lacking in the West, because we are so very lucky, like you were saying, is any kind of challenge.
00:36:34.000And Zuby and I, on the way down here, we're talking about the men who fought in World War I and World War II.
00:37:49.000And then of course, when you put those people out into the real world where they're no longer protected like that, It's like an immune system, right?
00:37:55.000They haven't built up that immune system.
00:37:57.000So when the slightest challenge comes out, they break down and they flip out and they scream and they call names.
00:38:04.000And it's almost like dealing with children.
00:38:07.000It's time for one of Tim's famous anecdotes to explain the situation.
00:38:11.000So when I went on Rogan's podcast last year when COVID, I think it was like March, drove across country.
00:38:17.000I had to get a COVID test because Joe tests everybody.
00:38:21.000And so what they do is they take some of your blood from your finger.
00:38:24.000The lady was trying to use those little clicker things.
00:38:26.000It's like a little red thing and they put it on your finger and they click it.
00:38:29.000She couldn't get it through my calluses because I play guitar.
00:38:32.000And so that's the example I'm using for a lot of these people in these colleges, a lot of these leftists.
00:38:37.000The reason they're freaking out and turning, like you mentioned, like microaggressions into you're erasing my existence.
00:38:43.000Is they are, they are so pink and, and, and soft that if they stepped out into the light, they would immediately, their skin would just start burning in the sun.
00:40:15.000There was this viral video a long time ago where it was like an Asian woman jogging and then she like stops to stretch and there's like a white guy and they start talking and then he's like, so where are you from?
00:40:29.000And he goes, I mean, like, where are you from?
00:40:32.000And she's like, My parents are from Korea.
00:40:35.000But the funny thing is, like, considering I'm not a dick, when someone asks me, I know they're not implying I can't be a real American with some, like... That's the implication.
00:40:45.000Like, you can't be an Englishman because you're black.
00:40:49.000They're just using an informal way to be like, what's your ethnic background?
00:40:52.000You know, where do your ancestors hail from?
00:40:54.000Yeah, and they could phrase it that way, but I'm clearly not an Anglo-Saxon, so if someone asked me that question, the notion that I'd be deeply offended and then go write some Twitter thread about what happened, as if I got assaulted or something.
00:41:18.000And again, this is what's been happening again over the past year and a half is people now have this inverted notion that everybody else is responsible for your health.
00:42:29.000There comes a point where it doesn't actually matter whether it's malice or stupidity.
00:42:32.000If you can't tell the difference based on the results, Then I would say there are certain situations where it actually, it doesn't matter because the result, the result is the, is the result, right?
00:42:41.000So if you cause that, whether it's, whether you tried to, or you're just so dumb that it led to this, like if you're talking forest, these forest fires, or you're talking like the mass homelessness problems or whatever it is, I'm like, you know what?
00:43:13.000Larry Elder is fairly libertarian, so I can agree with him on a lot of those libertarian principles, even though I'm substantially more left-leaning than him on a lot of issues.
00:43:20.000But the way I see it is, the system is so corrupt and dominated by a one-party rule across the board, getting anyone in there to challenge the existing broken power structure would be a godsend.
00:43:32.000Yeah, you need to hold people's feet to the fire, right?
00:43:35.000People often forget that what their relationship and dynamic between the people and governments, state representatives, federal representatives is supposed to be.
00:43:45.000It's not supposed to, we're not in a dictatorship or a monarchy, at least we're not supposed to be.
00:43:51.000It's not just supposed to be we've got you've got Supreme Leader Joe Biden or whoever a governor or mayor is or whatever and everyone just goes with whatever they say they're supposed they're supposed to be representatives and people often forget that we pay we pay their salaries right the politicians are employed By the people.
00:44:22.000And I think certainly they forget that.
00:44:24.000They get this notion that, oh, I'm actually just like a mini dictator, especially at a time like this, where they keep rolling these emergency powers.
00:44:31.000And I'm like, look, that's not what the relationship is supposed to be.
00:44:34.000You see the same issues that can happen sometimes with police as well.
00:44:37.000Where that relationship is not what it's actually supposed to be, right?
00:44:43.000The role of a police officer is to, of course, uphold and enforce the law, but it's to serve and protect the community.
00:44:51.000It's not to threaten them or to assault people or to like bully people around and abuse that power and, you know, okay, I've got my gun, whatever.
00:44:59.000It's like that's not that's not what that dynamic is supposed to be.
00:45:02.000So I think I don't know how but I think there should be like constant reminders of what How that relationship is supposed to play out.
00:45:11.000What's that experiment where they put all those people in and then they created like a hierarchy and they gave some people like they were the guards and then other people?
00:45:38.000I don't have all the data on what exactly went down, but I heard stuff went sideways.
00:45:42.000Yeah, people went tyrannical very quickly to the point where, because it was supposed to be a role play, but it got to the stage where, you know, they were actually legitimately abusing people.
00:45:53.000I love this idea, we hear it from the left very often, where they'll tweet at you and say something like, you would have been on the side of the Confederates, or you would have been on the side of the Nazis, and all that stuff, and I'm like, there's this teacher who tells this story where he asks his students, how many of you in this classroom would believe you would have opposed slavery in the United States, you know, pre-Civil War in America?
00:46:15.000And he said, okay, now name something right now that you will publicly announce that is deeply unpopular and get you ostracized by mainstream society.
00:46:27.000And the point he was making is that, you know, in hindsight we can look back and be like, oh, of course we're the good guys.
00:46:32.000But the fact is it's typically the dissidents, the critical thinkers, Who are challenging the system.
00:46:38.000And today, that's not the establishment left or the neocon, you know, never-Trumper types.
00:46:44.000It is typically some of the Bernie people.
00:46:47.000Many of them are just towing the line for the establishment left, though.
00:46:50.000But a lot of the MAGA, a lot of the conservatives, a lot of the disaffected liberals, the intellectual dark web types that are thinking critically.
00:47:48.000When I think of courage and bravery right if I'm looking at people people in the military going and fighting on the front lines literally putting their life at risk a fireman running into a burning building to go I'm like man that's like scary like that's actually risking your life I'm like man I say stuff on Twitter I make music I talk on podcasts I do public I'm like dude Like, okay, cool, thanks, thank you in a way, but at the same time I'm like, man, I wish this shouldn't be that rare.
00:48:22.000Comedian Jim Brewer cancels shows at theaters demanding proof of vaccination.
00:48:27.000The Saturday Night Live star Jim Brewer canceled his concerts, well, concerts, he's a comedian, at venues across the U.S.
00:48:32.000that require proof of vaccination before entry, becoming the latest celebrity to protest vaccine passports in cities like New York.
00:48:40.000Two quick updates on shows that you may think you may be getting tickets to or have already have tickets to, the Wellmont Theater in New Jersey, not doing it.
00:48:48.000Also, the Royal Oak Theater in Michigan, due to the segregation of them forcing people to show up with vaccinations, I am also not doing those shows, added a 54-year-old comic.
00:48:57.000I know I'm going to sacrifice a lot of money, but I'm not going to be enslaved to the system or money.
00:49:24.000In the event that you get cancelled, meaning like your bank shuts you down, like hardcore, like they've done to some of these people, are you going to be able to get a job at a regular place?
00:50:03.000If people were a bit more bold and brave and willing to stand up for themselves and stand by their co-workers, their colleagues, their employees, whatever, you know, you're a business owner.
00:50:15.000So if one of your employees, you know, start, if people started messaging you saying, Oh, this guy who works for, you know, I don't like his tweet or whatever.
00:50:25.000You'll be like, you probably won't respond, but at best you'll be like, whatever, you'll stand by your person.
00:51:31.000Oh, he was he was 14 when he tweeted it.
00:51:34.000And now we're gonna like come after him and people actually cave to that or someone does something which is not even Not even a transgression to any remotely normal and reasonable person.
00:51:45.000And then, you know, a handful of Twitter people go after them or whatever, and people start caving.
00:52:36.000Because of the things I've covered, because of the things I've said,
00:52:40.000I actually had a conversation with one of these high-profile guys a few years ago after I'd been running my YouTube channel for a little bit.
00:52:46.000And I saw him at the airport on the way to Davos, of all places.
00:52:49.000And he said to me, I'm not sure which side you're on.
00:53:06.000So if you're willing to stand up and say I'm gonna lose money because I care more about my convictions my principles and believing this stuff Yeah, there's a certain bravery to it.
00:53:13.000Yeah, but I will just say real also there's also For me at least I don't I can't say the same thing for you.
00:57:11.000I don't know the circumstances for Joe.
00:57:13.000Maybe he's got a very serious and massive contract, and there's a serious liability for him bailing and canceling on the show, so offering refunds is probably a good thing.
00:57:20.000But I'll still say, based on the information I have, I don't understand why Joe wouldn't cancel that.
00:57:24.000If he's gonna come out and say the vaccine mandates are bad, if he's gonna, you know, go to the doctor and get prescribed these, you know, alternative treatments or whatever and not be vaccinated, wouldn't you then say, I will not support the system that is forcing regular people to get the vaccine?
00:57:39.000Like, even if you... In New York City, the vaccine mandate, there's an exemption for performers.
00:57:45.000If you're a celebrity, you don't gotta get vaccinated.
00:57:48.000Okay, if you're a low-level guitar player playing at a bar, you also don't gotta get vaccinated.
00:57:52.000So, you know, I saw Tim Dillon tweeting about this, saying that, like, he called his fans brain-dead.
00:57:59.000He said, for my more brain-dead fans, I'm not the one mandating anything.
00:58:03.000It's the venues and the ticket salespeople and the governors blame them.
00:58:08.000And I'm just like, First of all, you're calling people brain-dead for saying... I mean, I get it, maybe that's his style or whatever, but I'm like, he's already made this thing kind of... He's already coming at people.
00:58:19.000Because they were tweeting at him saying like, yo, why are you playing these venues?
00:58:47.000I think his fans stepped in and then the ratio went back and forth.
00:58:50.000But you've got people saying, like, he's being called a sellout now.
00:58:53.000Whatever, call him whatever you want to call him.
00:58:55.000I just think that if I were to go on a show like this one and be like, vaccine mandates are bad, you would not catch me dead putting on an event with a vaccine mandate.
00:59:03.000Just like, even if I didn't believe it, you know, why would I ever subject myself?
01:01:09.000I just, here's what I don't get, and it could be very simply that Joe Rogan has a contract with Madison Square Garden that is probably massive.
01:01:16.000We're not talking about a little rinky-dink club here.
01:01:18.000He could be on the hook if he severs the contract for like millions of dollars or whatever.
01:01:22.000But I'm just wondering like when you do a hundred million dollar deal with Spotify and you were already making tens of millions of dollars, he's not gonna get more, I mean he can get more rich, but like what do you do with the money?
01:01:32.000And he's not gonna get more famous, so at a certain point, couldn't you just be like... I mean, actually, I'll tell you this.
01:01:37.000On Lex Friedman's podcast, Joe Rogan said he had F.U.
01:01:40.000And that he just buys sports cars because, well, if you've got the money and, you know, that's what you're supposed to do.
01:01:44.000You're supposed to be... Okay, well then, stand up for your principles, say no to the vaccine mandate, and tell Madison Square Garden you changed the terms of the contract by mandating this.
01:02:08.000I mean, I know what I would do in that situation.
01:02:11.000With the information that I know, as you alluded to, there could be something in there, in a contract, which is really putting him between a rock and a hard place.
01:02:22.000So I'm kind of hesitant to speculate on that.
01:02:26.000I do think though that in terms of the general wider principle, then I do actually think it's extraordinarily important for high-level musicians, comedians, performers, and so on to actually to boycott.
01:02:45.000I want to say the same thing for Tim Dillon, too.
01:04:12.000Most people are against the mandate, whether people have had the shot.
01:04:15.000I know there's people who are super pro-vax, who literally think almost everyone should get it, but they're like, but it shouldn't be mandated.
01:04:25.000It's just fundamentally, it's look, if the government can force you to inject something, even if you believe that that thing is, is good for you, right?
01:04:34.000The government shouldn't be able to, you know, vitamins are good for you.
01:04:36.000The government shouldn't be able to enforce you to inject vitamins.
01:05:30.000We'll just tax the cigarettes, make it harder for them to get them because they're bad for you.
01:05:34.000Government shouldn't have anything to do with that.
01:05:36.000I will say, there's a line, schools and certain public facilities, institutions do require vaccination like your standard, you know, MMR, polio.
01:05:46.000I think that's unique to the USA, by the way.
01:06:05.000Over years of research with long-term studies, we sat down and had a legislative body determine that we should have certain requirements for vaccines that are readily available and considered safe.
01:06:19.000That's very different from an emergency use authorization edict coming from a governor who didn't pass the law through no conversation No debate.
01:06:28.000There should be an opportunity for hearings.
01:06:30.000There should be an opportunity for representation.
01:06:33.000I'm not going to sit back as Joe Biden circumvents the two other branches.
01:06:36.000There's something really interesting that you perhaps inadvertently highlighted there, which is the concept of precedent.
01:06:43.000And that's the worst thing that's come out of the past 18 months, is the precedents that have been set, right?
01:06:50.000So I don't think that, so even if there are other, it sounds like here in the U.S.
01:06:55.000there are other vaccine mandates for people to go to certain schools, or I think to be in the military.
01:07:51.000All the servants are wearing masks and all the elites aren't.
01:07:55.000The funniest thing possible, so a lot of people are ragging on AOC because she had this this dress saying tax the rich at a $30,000 event, but I'll tell you what the funniest thing I saw was The video of her leaving the event where everyone's cheering and screaming and she's waving as a staff member is carrying her dress from behind for her while wearing a mask.
01:08:15.000And I'm like, nothing says cyber nightmare dystopia like the leftist wearing a fancy tax the rich dress at a $35,000 per ticket event as everyone celebrates and cheers for her and her masked servant carries her dress for her on the way out.
01:09:18.000Last year, I went to Romania for a couple months.
01:09:22.000And I was in Bucharest, where you have the second, a lot of people don't know, the second biggest building in the world, after the Pentagon, is the Presidential Palace.
01:09:32.000Built by Nikolai Ceausescu, their last communist dictator.
01:09:36.000So the building, I believe, was finished in 91.
01:09:39.000I think he was killed in 89, so he never lived to see the completion.
01:09:43.000This build, if you go inside this, the opulence, the decadence, keep in mind this is all built during the communist era and you've got all the communist buildings around.
01:09:53.000He displaced over 20, I believe over 20,000 citizens to build this building.
01:09:58.000So he demolished 20,000, the homes of 20,000 people to create this monstrosity.
01:10:04.000in the center of Bucharest which he never even lived to see but there's gold on the ceilings there's over a thousand rooms there's six floors under when you see the building keep in mind there's another six floors underground right the building is so heavy that it drops a couple centimeters what's it called every year the presidential palace in Bucharest look up this place it's gigantic i believe it's the second biggest building after the pentagon in terms i guess in terms of overall floor space This thing is... it's insane.
01:11:01.000And I mean, they were like, up until the moment, up against the wall, and the woman was still like, you're the problem, you're wrong, and they're wearing their nice clothes.
01:11:34.000I mean, I think as far as I'm aware, all the communist leaders were, right?
01:11:38.000I mean, they were living lives of luxury and telling everyone else that, you know, they all need to be equal and have their rations and live in squalor and live in famine.
01:11:48.000But they were convincing themselves that they needed the things that they were getting.
01:13:16.000There's tunnels that go from there to... Apparently the tunnels underneath are so big you can drive a tank through them.
01:13:23.000They say the building, the palace, is worth four billion euro, making it the most expensive administrative building in the world.
01:13:29.000The cost of heating, electricity, and lighting alone exceeds six million dollars per year, comparable to the total cost of powering a medium-sized city.
01:14:02.000And it's a picture of Kamala Harris' stepdaughter and some other actress or whatever.
01:14:07.000And I'm just like, bro, it's the capital city from the Hunger Games.
01:14:11.000And that's the one thing I hate the most, more than anything.
01:14:16.000Probably having grown up in the south side of Chicago, seeing all of the ultra well-off, hoity-toity people, and the people I knew from the suburbs who had good families and came from wealth, and I'm just like, I don't care if you're rich.
01:14:30.000I care if you treat other people with respect.
01:14:33.000Seeing people mistreat waiting staff, seeing them mistreat janitors, seeing the staff at this event all being forced to wear masks while they flaunt their wealth with their ridiculous costumes, I'm like, yo, These are the worst people.
01:14:46.000It is. It's the same reason why Woko Haram are so annoying, right?
01:14:54.000These woke people, they're so insufferable because they'll go on and rant about white supremacy.
01:15:04.000and being anti-racist and whatever and then a black person disagrees with them
01:15:08.000and they're the ones you know calling them racial slurs or they're the ones
01:15:11.000literally discriminate yeah I've experienced it right they're the ones
01:15:15.000literally discriminating against people based on race a few months ago what was
01:15:19.000a big conversation here in the USA what was it was that was racist voter ID yes
01:15:23.000okay which is the least vaccinated group in the USA in terms of demographics
01:15:46.000So you need the you need the proof of vaccination and you need an ID.
01:15:51.000And you know that very disproportionately that's gonna, you've effectively banned black people, most black people in New York City from restaurants, from gyms, from whatever.
01:16:02.000And this is the same people who less than a year ago are talking about voter ID being racist.
01:16:09.000You know, right now you've got the Republicans with the, they just passed the voter bill in Texas, which included a voter ID for mail-in voting.
01:16:41.000I mean, come on, going to a $30,000 ticketed event wearing a dress saying tax the rich.
01:16:47.000Like, I mean, this is the thing, but the hypocrisy almost to someone like that, it doesn't, it doesn't even matter because they've got their legions of psychophants who no matter what they do, and all this open hypocrisy, they're still like, Yeah, this is great, yes, slay, whatever.
01:17:06.000And it's just like, this is, that's why I just can't take these people seriously.
01:17:10.000You know, I look at what, when I first saw what AOC did, I didn't immediately jump on the like, oh, everyone's slamming her for going to the Met.
01:17:18.000I'm like, look, I got invited to the Clinton Gala.
01:19:34.000He's not living, like I said, but he's not an elitist who holds his nose and he sees these people in middle America and people in the working class and he's just like, you know, insulting them.
01:19:46.000I mean, Don Lemon is an elitist, right?
01:19:49.000He's not as elite as Trump, but he's an elitist, right?
01:19:51.000He will look down at and insult even on TV half of the American population, perhaps more, right?
01:19:59.000And that's why people like that are so insufferable because it's not the fact that, oh, you've got money or you're successful.
01:20:39.000And Trump played the media so well because they made fun of him for doing it.
01:20:43.000And meanwhile, regular middle Americans eating their garbage dollar steaks from the Savon are like, this is how I like my steak.
01:20:50.000Trump was trying to be a man of the people.
01:20:52.000He was trying to say to them, you know, look, I'll be like you.
01:20:54.000It's a common political tactic, mind you.
01:20:56.000But you look at what the Democrats, they've always tried to be the party of limousine liberals.
01:21:02.000Meanwhile, they claim Republicans, you know, they support cutting taxes for the billionaires because they think they'll be rich, but they're wrong.
01:21:10.000And it's like, bro, you do the exact same thing.
01:21:11.000You're sitting here with these celebrities going to the Met Gala where they have no COVID rules, and you do, and you're licking their boots.
01:21:19.000Maybe if you took the boot out of your mouth, you'd be able to smell and see what was going on, but you're smelling all their stanky feet.
01:21:36.000It's when they're sneering and looking down at and literally openly just mocking Huge swathes of people, oftentimes people who have actually put them in that position of success, right?
01:21:52.000I mean, it's not that, oh, the only people who watch movies are, you know, wealthy elites.
01:21:58.000It's like, no, like every everyone watches movies, everyone plays video games, different people read comic books, whatever.
01:22:03.000So when you have that audience and you're openly Hostile towards them it really rubs people the wrong way, and I don't again.
01:22:10.000I don't know if maybe they do some of that Unintentionally or if it's intentional, but I think that's part of what led to the backlash I think in 2016 both in the UK with the brexit situation and with Trump.
01:22:22.000I think a lot of that was cultural Backlash it wasn't purely politics politics was a part of it the economy was a part of it But it's also just people like look.
01:22:32.000I'm tired of I'm tired of you guys like just Talking to us like that and treating us like that.
01:23:04.000And so when I see a lot of the high profile people who are supposedly opposed to that, Who have massive wealth, and then use that wealth to buy themselves stuff, infinity pools and condos and fancy stuff I'm just like...
01:23:44.000I'm like, that's fair, because I give a lot, too.
01:23:46.000But I just look into a lot of these people, Hasan included, you know, left or right, I don't care.
01:23:51.000If you're making millions of dollars, why aren't you building stuff with it?
01:23:54.000So like, we have this, you know, we have the vlog and we have the million dollar skate mansion, we call it, but like we've reached capacity basically in this house with how many people we're staffing and hiring, bringing people in and just being like, do your thing and make good stuff and we're going to try and build something.
01:24:08.000And now we're looking at buying a venue because the goal is Not to have money to buy, load up a garage full of sports cars or to get myself an infinity pool in a luxury condo in DC or anything like that.
01:24:20.000I'm like, you know, I want to just hire people.
01:24:35.000I just wonder why it is that there's so many people who are active in politics, who are extremely well off, who don't do anything beyond their shtick.
01:24:45.000Because it comes down to their principles and values.
01:24:48.000You know, everyone has a different principles and a different value system.
01:24:51.000And I think that when it comes to money and power, I believe that those are primarily amplifiers, right?
01:24:58.000So if you are, you know, if you're naturally a fairly genuinely generous person who cares about like helping others and building and helping up, right?
01:25:08.000And you come into a lot of money or power, That will be amplified and you'll then have the means to help.
01:25:15.000Oh cool, I can help even more people now.
01:25:21.000But if you take someone, it's an amplifier, right?
01:25:23.000If you take someone who's a little bit of an alcoholic or a little bit of a drug addict and you give them like millions of dollars, what's going to happen?
01:25:30.000Right. They become a major alcoholic. They become a major drug addict. If you take someone who's
01:25:35.000a little bit got authoritarian tendencies and likes to tell them, tell people what to do and
01:25:40.000bully people and whatever, you know, if they're, if they have not a lot of money, power, and status,
01:25:45.000then they're kept in check because they're not, they don't have the capacity to do a lot of harm.
01:25:53.000So look at crazy dictators, whether you're looking at the Saddam Husseins or the Gaddafis or the Idi Amins, whatever, right?
01:26:00.000Those are people who then you give them essentially limitless power and funds and they can enact all of their crazy psychopathic Stuff, right?
01:26:11.000Hitler wasn't the only Hitler out there.
01:26:15.000It's just, he was the one who actually had the power and capacity to do that.
01:26:19.000And this is quite a dark thought, but there are millions of people who, if you gave them that same unchecked power.
01:26:27.000They would also commit genocide, which is scary, but those people exist.
01:26:34.000They exist, but they don't have the power and the capacity to go about and do that.
01:26:38.000And so it's a little bit of a sobering thought, but I just think that's reality.
01:27:12.000And so my point is there are a lot of very wealthy people who just choose to have whatever they want, and there's a tendency that we see on the left, hardcore political activism.
01:27:21.000Tom Steyer, Michael Bloomberg, George Soros, et cetera, Mackenzie Bezos, flooding the left with money, giving resources to all these people to support this stuff.
01:27:29.000And I don't think you have nearly as much on the right.
01:27:32.000And the same is true for the culture war.
01:27:34.000There are a lot of personalities who have moderately sized podcasts and YouTube channels that are making hundreds of thousands if not millions plus per year, and they just put it in their pocket, put it in the bank, buy stuff for themselves and their family, and they don't invest.
01:27:45.000Meanwhile, you have left-wing activist organizations that, you know, the way I describe it is You've got a game of tug-of-war where one side is pulling with all their might, the left, and the right is just trying to stay where they are.
01:27:57.000If you're not pulling back and you're just trying to stand, you're gonna get knocked down, you're gonna get pulled down.
01:28:01.000So I just, I've been thinking about this for a while.
01:28:03.000I'm like, if you're gonna go out on YouTube, on iTunes, on Spotify, on Twitter, and be like, these are the things I care about, I demand, blah, and you make a ton of money doing it, and then you're like, well, I'm not actually gonna do anything about it, I question your integrity.
01:28:28.000People, like, they don't want to be... I mean, how many conservative protests do you see?
01:28:35.000Like, if you think of the concept of activism itself, it's generally thought of as a left-wing phenomenon, right?
01:28:41.000People on the left tend to be more willing to fight.
01:28:44.000They tend to be more Bold in saying what they believe, even if some of it is absolutely insane.
01:28:50.000Um, and I'm always trying to urge people who are just more, I would just say more sane, not even necessarily conservative or libertarian, whatever, even just sane liberals, just people who are sane.
01:29:01.000It's like, look, you need to push back at least equally, or you need to advocate for what you believe in at least equally.
01:29:08.000And if people say, oh, well, you know, we'll, we'll, we'll go to the polls in 2024.
01:29:12.000And you know, as Andrew Breitbart said, you know, politics is downstream from culture.
01:29:16.000So, that's why with what I do, I'm like, man, people need to focus more on the society and the culture.
01:29:54.000Otherwise, it's just going to be, you know, an ever growing series of L's.
01:29:58.000I think Breitbart had a good point when he said politics is downstream from culture, but I think, you know, I'm starting to realize that politics is irrelevant, culture is everything.
01:31:41.000You know, someone superchatted, we read it once, saying that it should be the action, taking action of violence should be punishable and incitement should not be the crime because Congress shall make no law establishing freedom of speech or whatever.
01:31:53.000And that means you can say, I want you to go do X, but you didn't do anything other than say words.
01:31:57.000If we allow the government to put a law on any words, then what's to stop them from saying there's already precedent to where we can make some speech illegal.
01:32:07.000The Constitution says you literally can't, but we've already allowed them to do it.
01:32:24.000I've actually had this sort of internal debate with myself as well, with like, because I consider myself, you know, generally, I mean, there's the positions of literal 100% free speech, absolutism, you know, you can slander, you can incite violence, so on and so forth.
01:32:44.000I tend to be, I tend to think of myself as, like, one step in from that, as in, like, okay, those fair exceptions and then everything else, provided it's, you're talking about, and it's because of what you're saying.
01:32:59.000So I agree that, you know, someone, someone could tell me to go commit a crime or violent action or whatever.
01:33:19.000But at the same time, See, this is the tricky one, because as we know, like now more than ever, human beings are, you can brainwash people, you can radicalize people.
01:33:35.000And, you know, Hitler didn't kill anyone himself.
01:34:44.000I mean, I think when it comes to free speech, the U.S.A.
01:34:46.000certainly has it the most rights out of any other country.
01:34:51.000And the issue is, if the Constitution says they shall make no law establishing, you know, pertaining to speech and religion and all that stuff, and then we say, oh, but you can, well, then the exceptions are, that means there is an exception, and that means, depending on the culture, more exceptions will be made.
01:35:06.000And also, I mean, okay, let's move away from calls to violence and incitement.
01:35:16.000Yeah, but, you know, if someone is going around claiming that somebody is X or a Y or they've done this or they've done that, again, I can see, like, that is... It's not a crime.
01:36:14.000Cause I can see the sort of slippery slope argument.
01:36:19.000Um, but also I think, okay, if you have essentially free speech, absolutism, and then you have those two caveats, I don't necessarily, if, if people are pushing for far, far, far more infringements, then obviously that's an issue.
01:36:35.000But I think like, as it currently stands, I'm kind of like, Fair enough, right?
01:36:42.000I'm not so ideological on it that I'm unwilling to kind of be like, okay.
01:37:32.000I think the Second Amendment is the perfect example of cultural erosion.
01:37:36.000I mean, we used to have gun clubs in high school.
01:37:38.000Now, it's just like so many guns are banned, and for ridiculous, nonsensical reasons.
01:37:43.000Can I ask, what is it that switched your position on that?
01:37:46.000Because that's something you've changed on, right?
01:37:48.000I've never been a hardcore anti-gun person.
01:37:51.000I've always been a... I think there's reasonable things we can do to, you know, this was a few years ago, reasonable things we can do to, like, you know, maybe track purchases and maybe require insurance or something, because we're talking about a deadly weapon.
01:38:03.000And then someone commented on one of my videos saying, I completely agree.
01:38:07.000I would also like you to get speech insurance for your First Amendment right.
01:38:12.000And then I was like, that's a good point.
01:38:15.000If we're talking about your rights that can't be infringed upon, I might disagree with you owning the weapon in certain capacities, but I certainly don't have the authority to legislate that away unless we have a constitutional convention and change the amendment.
01:38:27.000And then I shifted to, okay, well then I think if the left wants to change the gun laws, they got to have a convention to change Second Amendment.
01:38:33.000And everyone's like, okay, that makes sense.
01:38:36.000And then it basically came down to when the riots were getting crazy, when COVID was getting crazy, and I started saying, okay, I'm gonna go buy a gun.
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01:39:32.000Let's read some of your Super Chats and see what y'all have to say.
01:39:35.000Just real quick because someone superchated right now and it's relevant.
01:39:38.000They said, First Amendment protects expression of opinions and beliefs.
01:39:42.000Calls to violence are not an expression of an opinion or belief.
01:40:04.000Yeah, watching X-Files is fun, you know?
01:40:06.000Like this, it's not even about Mulder chasing aliens, it's about, they actually show the FBI as some like noble profession of stopping murderers, and there's like serial killers, but I'm like, it's all, it's all a dream, man.
01:40:17.000Look, I've, I've, uh, I'd be willing to bet that wokeness is infected and infiltrated everything.
01:40:22.000So me personally, I'd say I wouldn't do it.
01:42:16.000No one's ever going to come out and be like, the National Guard will be taking your children from you.
01:42:19.000They're saying, I'm sorry there's no bus drivers, but the National Guard will come here to help.
01:42:24.000And then something will happen and they'll say, your kids were brought to a special facility because of the threat level from COVID, but they'll be back tomorrow.
01:42:32.000You know, it's not going to be overnight.
01:42:43.000Michael Smith says, Last Airbender taught us about neutral jing.
01:42:48.000Sometimes the best thing to do is nothing and wait to see how to respond properly.
01:42:51.000In fact, we were just talking with Dan Holloway the other day, and he was mentioning that a really good interrogation technique is after someone answers you, to not say anything, because people hate silence, so they'll just start talking again, and they'll give you more and more information.
01:43:36.000Tony Mathis says, Tim, you're analyzing the problem from a leftist viewpoint.
01:43:40.000Seeing your parents struggle makes kids want to help, if in no other way that's not causing more problems, if there is love in the family.
01:43:50.000I'm just saying there's a lot of leftists who are talking about how they grew up in this collapsed economy with constant struggle.
01:43:56.000They go to school, and they have massive debt, and there's no jobs for them, and now there's another collapse, and they're just totally nihilists.
01:44:02.000So you were saying there's this, I guess you called it, Cowardice culture.
01:44:07.000And then Tim, you were saying people are like kind of coming out without calluses and they're raw to the environment and it's hurting them.
01:44:13.000How do we... I would imagine the only way we can help them is over time.
01:45:35.000But a lot of people haven't learned that.
01:45:36.000And I think I see a correlation between this and.
01:45:40.000I've made this point before where I see a genuine correlation between like people playing sport or being physically active and their sort of socio-political outlook on a lot of these things, right?
01:45:56.000People who have built themselves up or they face some kind of like true challenge or adversity whether just by their environment or self-determined.
01:46:07.000Then they, they carry that over to other aspects.
01:46:10.000It's, it's, it's rare to find someone who is physically strong, who is like mentally weak, who is like how, like throughout this pandemic, is there anybody jacked who's afraid of COVID?
01:46:59.000So I had mentioned this because there's like six studies pointing out that people who are Republican politicians tend to be more attractive.
01:48:20.000And once you've got them on the defensive, then you've, you've kind of won.
01:48:23.000So I can see why people use this tactic, but I think people need to stop falling for it.
01:48:27.000I did it in my 20s, a lot, on YouTube.
01:48:30.000I would make videos at people and go for their physical weaknesses and make them feel insecure about it so that I could prove my point easier against them.
01:51:03.000If you had a GoFundMe, I'd go check it out.
01:51:05.00029 and needing a hip replacement, that sounds bad.
01:51:08.000I've given away a ton of money to GoFundMes for pets and for people's medical issues and people who've had their homes destroyed in the wildfires.
01:51:16.000So, I'm not necessarily a big fan of just giving money away, because I want to make sure we have resources to hire people, pay people well, and expand the company.
01:51:25.000But at a certain point, like, I see a story about someone whose house burned down, and I'm gonna be like, yo, I'm not gonna leave this person hanging.
01:51:32.000You know, there was someone who got attacked by Antifa and had their equipment destroyed, and I was like, here's money, go buy yourself some new stuff, man.
01:51:38.000I can't, like, you know, I'm not gonna...
01:51:41.000It's tough, but I think we're gonna do some great stuff.
01:51:47.000We've got the funds to hire more people.
01:51:50.000The more people who sign up to become members at TimCast.com, the more we're focusing on hiring people and expanding.
01:51:57.000The challenge is, you can't just go into the list of resumes and be like, hired, hired, hired, hired, hired.
01:52:02.000Because you end up with a bunch of people who can't do the job, and it's like an arduous process.
01:54:46.000Squall, for RIP though, you know, to be in it.
01:54:48.000Squall says, there's wisdom in Joe Rogan not using his platform to make a statement about what should be limited to the conversation between doctor and patient.
01:56:40.000Yeah, do you think she's like, she broke through the wall and now she's emanating like tax the rich from the inside?
01:56:46.000Because I think that's what she thinks she's doing.
01:56:48.000I think she's cosplaying as a revolutionary because when there were revolutionaries in France, they did not wear things that said, down with, you know, the rulers.
01:57:04.000Ben Walker says, Tim, there's criticism for your presence and self-censorship on YouTube, big tech censorship, and your criticism of Tim Dillon.
01:57:12.000Is it possible that his rationale may be the similar but the ends are different?
01:57:16.000If not, a distinction might be helpful.
01:57:31.000If they were operating a speakeasy behind the scenes, that'd be like, okay.
01:57:35.000If, if we have a show on YouTube where there's like some things we can't say, they're typically slurs we don't want to say anyway.
01:57:42.000Okay, and for the most part, our opinions on the show don't really fall outside of YouTube.
01:57:49.000The issue is, we want to have guests on who do have opinions outside of that of YouTube, so we created a private space on TimCast.com.
01:57:56.000We can do our show, express ourselves, there's nothing we're particularly worried about for the most part, but we created a space where we can be safe.
01:58:06.000I think it's fair to say, you know, there's some criticism and get off YouTube, but why would you sacrifice the largest video platform where you can say 99% of the things you want to say and then use that to push people to a space that insulates us from all censorship?
01:58:32.000I welcome a discussion on it and criticism, and as I pointed out, with respect, Tim Dillon may already have contracts in place, he can't just break those, and so he's probably like, eh, I don't know what to do.
01:58:42.000I just think, for me, I'm like, censorship is bad.
01:58:46.000We're going to create a space where we can speak out against censorship, and there's a line.
01:58:50.000If it ever came to the point where YouTube told me I wasn't allowed to say something very important like, you know, Joe Biden should be impeached because he's a crooked politician who was colluding with Ukrainians in Burisma so that he could get an investigation pulled on the company that his son worked for.
01:59:07.000If they came out and said, if you mention that again, we'll ban you.
01:59:12.000In fact, when it came to that one guy's name who you can't say, I actually had a huge fight with YouTube over like, if you push this, I'm gonna upload six videos per day just saying his name, nothing else.
01:59:23.000And then ultimately I was like, there's a limit.
01:59:26.000Is it really worth it for me to argue over saying one name?
02:01:25.000That's the extent of like, you know, for the most part.
02:01:27.000If you want to have a serious political conversation and you want to entertain conversations around politics and you don't know what you're talking about and you're scared, don't come up in my grill.
02:01:37.000Don't insult your own fans as brain-dead morons, and then rebut me by saying I'm bald, because if you can't hang with hardcore political conversations, you shouldn't be in the business.
02:01:46.000That being said, the dude probably will roast me.
02:01:48.000It'll probably be really, really hilarious, and the dude is very funny.
02:01:51.000I would never dream of getting involved in a roast contest with a guy who's as funny as Tim Dillon.
02:02:02.000publicly coming out on your latest episode saying vaccine mandates are bad, but I have no problem performing at venues that do them because they're not- I don't care that much.
02:02:11.000And then when your fans come out and say, yo, dude, this is selling out, and you say, well, you're a brain-dead moron, I'm like, dude, that's like lowbrow, okay?
02:04:15.000I worked for them for two years, they were woke and insane, and I tried to leave, but I had a contract, so I couldn't.
02:04:20.000So I was stuck with the company for an additional year, while they made all this stuff, and then finally, once my contract was over, I walked.
02:04:36.000Kyle Abrams says, Hey Tim, would you be interested in hiring a chef, groundskeeper, housekeeper local to your area or letting someone intern?