Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - November 13, 2021


Timcast IRL - National Guard DEPLOYING Over Rittenhouse Verdict w-FenixAmmo & RecoilMag


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 7 minutes

Words per Minute

199.27673

Word Count

25,348

Sentence Count

1,873

Misogynist Sentences

22

Hate Speech Sentences

23


Summary

Kyle Rittenhouse is facing a possible life sentence after being acquitted on all gun charges in the Kenosha, Wisconsin shooting that left 5 dead. In this episode of the podcast, we talk about the decision by the judge to throw out the gun charge, and why we think this is a huge victory for the prosecution. We also hear from the defense about the possibility of a mistrial, and we have an exclusive story from the Daily Mail on the 500 National Guardsmen on standby in case of riots in the area.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 When you guys send super chats before the live stream starts, they do appear, but then
00:00:14.000 they get erased right away as soon as we go live.
00:00:16.000 So I just want to make sure you guys knew because we actually had a really good super
00:00:19.000 chat just now that I thought was the best possible intro for tonight's show.
00:00:24.000 It was a super chat, and I think it was from someone named Jordan.
00:00:27.000 It got erased from the super chat already, but he said, the defense in the Rittenhouse case got to the one-yard line and then fumbled.
00:00:33.000 If the jurors agree on provocation, all self-defense is out.
00:00:38.000 And theoretically, they could then get Rittenhouse life in prison.
00:00:42.000 They could get him on intentional homicide.
00:00:44.000 You see, it all stems from the fact that the prosecution first was able to admit false evidence, computer-generated imagery, Not from the night in question, because the defense didn't understand how to explain it was not real evidence.
00:00:59.000 And then they said, if this is in, this splotchy image that was made on a computer makes it look like Kyle Rittenhouse pointed his gun.
00:01:07.000 And the judge said, okay, the jury will be instructed on the potential provocation, which means if they say to the jury, by raising his weapon, and they're going to say it, They're gonna state it as fact.
00:01:19.000 He raised his weapon, therefore you can't claim self-defense.
00:01:23.000 With or without evidence, they can now just say it.
00:01:26.000 That's a big win for the prosecution.
00:01:27.000 500 National Guard are on standby being deployed to the perimeter of Kenosha because riots are expected.
00:01:35.000 And we have an exclusive story in the Daily Mail.
00:01:37.000 We got the emails that were sent to the judge.
00:01:39.000 Death threats, insults.
00:01:41.000 I think the judge cracked.
00:01:43.000 I do.
00:01:43.000 I think he's a good guy, but he gave so much to the prosecution at the last minute, it was shocking.
00:01:48.000 That being said, it seems like for the most part, he got to the edge of throwing out the gun charge against Rittenhouse, and then walked it back and said, but we'll give the jury instructions.
00:01:59.000 And based on the jury instructions, they're gonna acquit on the gun charge.
00:02:03.000 Unless, I guess, provocation comes in and they just say guilty on all counts.
00:02:07.000 We'll see.
00:02:08.000 We got a couple good dudes here who are hanging out with us.
00:02:10.000 You guys just introduce yourselves because you're gun dudes and we'll talk about guns.
00:02:14.000 I call dibs first.
00:02:15.000 So my name is Forrest Cooper.
00:02:16.000 I'm the digital newsroom editor for Recoil magazine.
00:02:19.000 And so I get to contribute to both our off-grid and our recoil publications for online.
00:02:26.000 And they're all four of our magazines for print.
00:02:28.000 We cover gun culture, new stuff coming out.
00:02:30.000 We cover, I mean, everything from censorship.
00:02:33.000 For example, Grand Thumb got kicked off of Instagram a couple days ago.
00:02:37.000 I think it was yesterday, actually.
00:02:39.000 Possibly related to Rittenhouse, we don't know.
00:02:41.000 And that's part of the design.
00:02:44.000 But yeah, that's who I am.
00:02:45.000 Forest Cooper, Digital Newsroom Editor.
00:02:46.000 Something that you guys get tonight if you listen to Tim Poole.
00:02:49.000 We've got recoilweb.com slash Tim Poole.
00:02:53.000 Again, recoilweb.com slash Tim Poole for 25% off an annual subscription to Recoil or 25% and or and or 25% off our Book of the Year 15.
00:03:01.000 Sweet.
00:03:06.000 Well, I had to beat that hat, so... I did nods on the show first, so... Okay, well, I guess I'm number two then.
00:03:14.000 My name is Justin.
00:03:15.000 I'm the CEO of Phoenix Ammunition Company.
00:03:19.000 We are basically known as mostly Twitter trolls.
00:03:23.000 Occasionally we make ammunition.
00:03:26.000 We service the competition markets and Tactical training communities primarily, so... What are you wearing?
00:03:34.000 These are DT NVG night vision.
00:03:39.000 Like the best of the best?
00:03:41.000 Yeah, they're... Pretty high up there.
00:03:43.000 Pretty much the best that you can get it before you get to quad tube setups where you've got a larger field of view.
00:03:49.000 That night vision is such a flex.
00:03:52.000 I'm very jealous and if I... You got a flex on the pores.
00:03:56.000 I mean, if I sell enough t-shirts, I might be able to afford a similar rig.
00:04:01.000 And the t-shirts, of course, sold on TheBestPoliticalShirts.com, like the one I'm wearing right now, detailing how we're pretty much in Fahrenheit 451, Brave New World, and 1984, all simultaneously, I think, perfectly describes our dystopian technocratic future that we're all living in.
00:04:17.000 The V for Vendetta 1.
00:04:19.000 And I have this shirt with three dystopian futures coming together explaining what's going on, and then I have one with, I believe, 10 or 12 dystopian movies, novels, and books, also detailing with the more extensive.
00:04:34.000 But thebestpoliticalshirts.com, and I think I could say I called it.
00:04:39.000 Hey everybody, the other night we learned that following the raid on James O'Keefe and Project Veritas, in all likelihood the FBI is leaking privileged legal communications to the New York Times that Project Veritas is suing.
00:04:54.000 We are in Stasi, Gulag, SS, whatever authoritarian nightmare world you want to live in, we're here!
00:05:00.000 Law enforcement for the federal government is going after journalists for their legally protected private communications.
00:05:07.000 Yeah, great shirt, Luke.
00:05:08.000 Yeah, I mean, we're in it.
00:05:10.000 At least we got that going for us.
00:05:12.000 I want to see you dress as a 360 degree model of that, of the Venn diagrams, like just a big sphere of diagrams.
00:05:19.000 You gotta put Hunger Games in there, to be honest.
00:05:20.000 And Clockwork Corn.
00:05:21.000 Oh, do you?
00:05:22.000 I have Clockwork.
00:05:22.000 Or maybe like a helmet.
00:05:23.000 I have Hunger Games.
00:05:24.000 I have Rubik's Cube, right?
00:05:26.000 I got a whole bunch of other stuff.
00:05:27.000 Watching Nancy Pelosi officiate that billionaire's wedding with no mask on, I was just like, Hunger Games.
00:05:32.000 That's what these people are.
00:05:34.000 That's Spain without the S.
00:05:37.000 I'm glad you guys are here and hopefully we will go deep on weapons or guns, I guess you would say.
00:05:42.000 Oh yeah, definitely.
00:05:43.000 Rittenhouse basically won on that gun charge.
00:05:44.000 So we'll talk about that for sure.
00:05:46.000 Yeah, I'm really excited.
00:05:47.000 This is such great timing with you two weapons experts to talk about the Rittenhouse case.
00:05:50.000 So let's get into it.
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00:06:23.000 Yo, here we go.
00:06:24.000 500 National Guard troops will be on standby in Wisconsin for Rittenhouse verdict as police forces across America brace for acquittal.
00:06:36.000 Yeah, it does seem extremely likely there will be an acquittal, but my friends, we have an update on today's news.
00:06:42.000 It definitely seems like the prosecution has thrown a Hail Mary pass.
00:06:47.000 Might actually get, they could potentially get all counts.
00:06:51.000 You see, the prosecutors were able to introduce fake evidence.
00:06:54.000 Because the judge didn't get it, because the defense didn't get it, and now the jury will be told that computer-generated images is actually video from the night in question.
00:07:06.000 And I'm just sitting here like, how did this happen?
00:07:09.000 How did the defense screw this one up?
00:07:12.000 We got Andrew Bronk over at Legal Insurrection says, Written House Trial Day 9, prosecution big win on provocation.
00:07:19.000 Lacking any factual rebuttal to self-defense, the state will argue that Kyle Rittenhouse was a provoker with intent, eliminating self-defense privilege under Wisconsin law that cannot be regained by withdrawal from the fight.
00:07:30.000 Now here's what's important.
00:07:32.000 What you see on the screen, for those that are watching, Yeah, tell me what that is.
00:07:36.000 No, no, for real.
00:07:37.000 If you're watching right now, if you're watching live, if you're watching on a YouTube clip, that image on the screen, I'd like you to comment and say what it is.
00:07:46.000 It's a Hunter Biden painting.
00:07:47.000 The guy's holding a big mallet.
00:07:50.000 What is it?
00:07:50.000 What do you guys think it is?
00:07:51.000 The guy's holding a sign.
00:07:52.000 I think my favorite comment was it was a sign going through a state of being raptured.
00:07:56.000 Yeah.
00:07:56.000 Oh, because it's expanding?
00:07:58.000 Yeah.
00:07:59.000 All right, let me explain.
00:08:00.000 On the right side is a small image, and you can see a sign, and you can see some blurry-looking
00:08:05.000 people.
00:08:07.000 On the left is the AI enhanced image that you can clearly see is not enhanced at all.
00:08:14.000 Take a look at the sign.
00:08:15.000 It's got a ghost sign behind it, or emerging from it.
00:08:18.000 I don't know what that is.
00:08:19.000 Why?
00:08:20.000 Because a computer attempted to decipher what a larger version or a clearer version would be, and this image is actually nonsense.
00:08:28.000 They introduced this image on the left, which, by their own admission, was enhanced by an algorithm.
00:08:36.000 Which means a computer generated the image, not a sensor capturing light from the day in question.
00:08:42.000 That is to say, the prosecution was able to admit evidence that they say shows Kyle Rittenhouse pointing a weapon at someone, but it's not real.
00:08:49.000 It is not actually a photo from the night in question.
00:08:52.000 And the judge said, oh, I guess we'll just let the jury decide.
00:08:55.000 Now what's going to happen in closing arguments, the prosecutors will say definitively, as a statement of fact, we showed you a video clip and image of Kyle Rittenhouse pointing his gun at these
00:09:07.000 people. So it's no wonder why Rosenbaum attacked him. In fact, Rosenbaum was acting in self-defense,
00:09:13.000 not Kyle Rittenhouse. As a statement of fact, they can now make that claim. And the jury might
00:09:17.000 be like, oh, well, if that's true, the only thing the defense can say is, come on, you couldn't
00:09:22.000 actually see what was in that video.
00:09:24.000 And they'll be like, well, but the prosecutor is not lying, is he?
00:09:28.000 He's not lying, is he?
00:09:29.000 So I would like to present to all of you my algorithmically enhanced image from that night.
00:09:34.000 This is, as you can see, right here.
00:09:37.000 That is Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:09:38.000 You can tell because he's got an angry face and his mouth is a squiggly line.
00:09:43.000 And this thing in his hand, it's not a boomerang.
00:09:45.000 In fact, it's a handgun because he had a handgun.
00:09:47.000 And then these two are the people and you can clearly see he's pointing his weapon.
00:09:51.000 Now, I would like to state definitively I showed you a picture of Kyle Rittenhouse pointing a gun at people.
00:09:58.000 Technically correct.
00:09:59.000 It was a drawing.
00:10:00.000 Nope, nope, nope.
00:10:01.000 A picture is a drawing.
00:10:02.000 It's as real as the drawing of a picture.
00:10:04.000 A drawing is a picture.
00:10:06.000 I can say as a statement of fact, I have a photo, I have a picture of Kyle Rittenhouse pointing a gun at people.
00:10:12.000 I mean, it's stick figures.
00:10:13.000 I drew it just now in 10 seconds.
00:10:14.000 That's what the prosecution's doing.
00:10:16.000 And they're getting away with it.
00:10:17.000 Yeah, they showed a drawing of a picture.
00:10:19.000 That's what that is.
00:10:20.000 That's what it is.
00:10:20.000 A computer drawing of a... I gotta tell you what's really amazing is they kept doing this.
00:10:27.000 When the judge was like, okay, I gotta decide on instructions.
00:10:30.000 Play the video for me.
00:10:31.000 The prosecutor goes, put it on the 4k screen.
00:10:35.000 And the defense goes, you can't because that will add pixels.
00:10:39.000 And the prosecutor goes, you don't know that.
00:10:41.000 And he goes, it's common sense.
00:10:42.000 And the judge said nothing and sits down and watches.
00:10:45.000 Okay, it's simple.
00:10:48.000 A 4K screen, which I'm pretty sure the screen we have here is 4K, has, you know, what is it?
00:10:53.000 It's 4K because it's effectively 4,000 pixels.
00:10:55.000 It's a little bit more than that.
00:10:56.000 That means when I zoom in, Pixels on the screen, in front of us, have to be filled in with pixels that don't exist.
00:11:06.000 So this is what they, this is what computer programs do for digital zoom.
00:11:09.000 It guesses what they might be.
00:11:11.000 Which is why when you look at the image on the left, the sign has a ghost.
00:11:15.000 Look, look, no for real, like, you can see there's a sign and there's a ghost sign behind it, like you said, being raptured.
00:11:19.000 Because the computer has no idea.
00:11:21.000 It's guessing.
00:11:22.000 And the judge falls right for it.
00:11:23.000 He just walks right into it, and the defense did nothing, and...
00:11:26.000 Fortunately, you don't base a court proceeding off of a blurry picture.
00:11:34.000 If there was more evidence of him pointing guns, video, and pictures, then I think this might have some substance.
00:11:40.000 And what the defense has argued, and might work, is they wouldn't just say it's a blurry image.
00:11:46.000 What they've said is, if that image does show Kyle Rittenhouse pointing a weapon, it's with his left hand.
00:11:52.000 Which means he has to take the weapon off, flip the strap to his other shoulder, and then change his hands, and then point it.
00:11:59.000 Which...
00:12:00.000 Yeah, it would never happen.
00:12:01.000 I mean, I would look at that picture and I would have said as the defense, how can you tell me definitively where his face is in that photo?
00:12:09.000 How do you know what direction he's even pointing?
00:12:12.000 And then I would have the guy circle what he tells me is the weapon and I would have said, What you're claiming is the rifle in this photo accounts for maybe six or eight pixels of the entire thing.
00:12:24.000 There's no possible way that you can discern what is a rifle and what is the sling.
00:12:28.000 And you can't even tell me whether he's facing toward the camera or away from the camera in this photo.
00:12:34.000 So, it blows my mind.
00:12:38.000 Not only that, but that line of questioning is for the original, not the enhanced.
00:12:42.000 For the enhanced, I would just say, Is the enhanced image a photograph from the night in question?
00:12:47.000 Right, and the answer is no.
00:12:49.000 No.
00:12:49.000 And then you say, okay, well then why are we admitting it?
00:12:52.000 It's a computer... I would actually say, the photo on the left, when was that file created?
00:12:57.000 And he'd say, last week.
00:12:58.000 And I'd say, where?
00:12:59.000 In my crime lab.
00:13:00.000 And I'd say, so it's not an image created on the night in question?
00:13:03.000 No.
00:13:04.000 Your Honor, I move to have this evidence removed from the court as it's not an image from the night in question.
00:13:09.000 Yeah, not to mention, weren't they saying that he was pointing the rifle at Zeminsky in that photo?
00:13:14.000 Yeah, but that still is provocation.
00:13:17.000 Well, that's fine, but then I would say why don't we have Zeminsky here as a complaining witness because he endangered him just in the same way as anyone else.
00:13:24.000 He's being criminally charged.
00:13:26.000 Exactly.
00:13:26.000 So if you're claiming that he pointed a rifle at this person and that's what provoked the entire attack and this person is not there and is not being charged, how can we move forward?
00:13:36.000 I'm gonna do this.
00:13:36.000 It makes no sense.
00:13:37.000 I'm gonna do this.
00:13:38.000 Ladies and gentlemen, what I have before you right here, you can see in this picture, this is ADA binger.
00:13:43.000 This is the prosecutor Binger pointing a gun at Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:13:49.000 I have a picture of the prosecutor in the case pointing a gun at Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:13:55.000 That's right.
00:13:56.000 I move to dismiss as it is a drawing of a picture.
00:14:01.000 It is a drawing, but drawings are pictures.
00:14:04.000 And I'm holding it.
00:14:07.000 The funny thing is people who listen to this can't see this.
00:14:10.000 So that's kind of the point.
00:14:11.000 When I say I have a picture of the prosecutor pointing a gun at Kyle Rittenhouse, it's literally a stick figure and there's a squiggly line in a circle, like crude on purpose to make my point.
00:14:20.000 So there you go.
00:14:21.000 It is now a statement of fact that Tim Poole has a picture of ADA binger pointing a gun, recklessly I might add, at the defendant, at Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:14:29.000 With malice.
00:14:30.000 With malice!
00:14:31.000 Yeah, I'll say this.
00:14:32.000 The picture shows murderous intent.
00:14:34.000 Indeed.
00:14:36.000 You do not have squiggly eyebrows, but you definitely have a yelling face.
00:14:38.000 Yes.
00:14:39.000 Yeah, that's why it's a circle.
00:14:41.000 Let me modify it and I'll put angry eyes.
00:14:43.000 Angry eyebrows.
00:14:44.000 Angry eyebrows and a big angry mouth.
00:14:46.000 There, look, now he's got angry eyebrows.
00:14:48.000 I don't know if you can actually see it.
00:14:49.000 That's malice.
00:14:50.000 Schoolchildren.
00:14:51.000 School children around this country had cops called for them for similar egregious actions like you just committed to him.
00:14:57.000 Just a heads up.
00:14:57.000 Yeah, remember the kid who chewed his Pop-Tart into the shape of a gun?
00:15:01.000 And the cops came?
00:15:03.000 Like, are you freaking kidding me?
00:15:05.000 But so like here's a really good example of what you're dealing with though, right?
00:15:08.000 So we have false evidence that has been admitted because you have a judge who is trying to retain the regalia of the court.
00:15:16.000 He wants, I think he's coming in good faith.
00:15:19.000 And I think one of the things that we saw this last week was that the constant interaction between the judge and binger was that the judge was consistently disappointed with his actions.
00:15:30.000 Like he was hoping that binger was going to come and act as a prosecuting attorney should within the decorum of the court.
00:15:39.000 And so as you saw binger continuously bring things forward that were either a overtly malicious In the way that he was very manipulative in his conversation.
00:15:49.000 I get it.
00:15:50.000 When you're in a court of law and you're arguing your case, you have to become very articulate with what you're saying.
00:15:56.000 But there's a difference between trying to make sure that the witness defines something and trying to change what the witness said.
00:16:04.000 To say a certain thing.
00:16:05.000 And so now our judge, our Judge Schroeder, is in a situation where he is mitigating between two people, two groups, parties, whatever, two parties, and one of them is at least acting within the court, the rules of the court, and one of them is deliberately not.
00:16:21.000 And he, I think he's in a situation combined with, this is probably the most important case that judge has ever ruled over in his entire life.
00:16:30.000 He already wants to end it.
00:16:31.000 Undoubtedly.
00:16:32.000 He's saying like, I want to start a new trial on Monday, let's get it over with.
00:16:34.000 Yeah, this will be the most historical event of his life, whether he knows it or not.
00:16:38.000 Most likely.
00:16:39.000 The reason, I'm sorry, I got to, Bronca's analysis is brilliant, brilliant guy.
00:16:45.000 Um, because I'm reading this and I can see the strategy now of the state.
00:16:47.000 We've been sitting here laughing at the state about how stupid they are, but they've been waiting to the very last moment.
00:16:53.000 And check this out.
00:16:54.000 Bronco says the state will argue this pointing of the rifle did trigger a violent response from Rosenbaum.
00:17:00.000 Rittenhouse then led the provoked Rosenbaum across the parking lot where Kyle ultimately acted on his intent to use Rosenbaum's provoked attack as an excuse to use deadly force.
00:17:08.000 Basically, they're going to argue In that video we showed you, he pointed his gun at him, and then acting in self-defense, in defense of others, Rosenbaum chased after him.
00:17:18.000 It was Kyle's intent to lead him to an open space to get him away from a crowd where he could kill him.
00:17:24.000 That's intentional homicide.
00:17:26.000 It's unbelievable.
00:17:27.000 And there was no mention of that for the first week and a half of the trial.
00:17:32.000 So the defense is going to have to rely on, you saw him render aid, you heard from one witness, a journalist on the scene, who said he was de-escalating violence.
00:17:40.000 Does that narrative really fit?
00:17:42.000 Now, I'm pretty sure the prosecution gives their closing argument last, though, don't they?
00:17:47.000 I'm not the one to know.
00:17:48.000 I think you're right.
00:17:48.000 final word. I could be wrong. I think you're right. I'm pretty sure they get the final word. In which case, they're
00:17:54.000 going to be able to craft their narrative around what, I think there's a rebuttal, a half an hour rebuttal. Yeah. So
00:18:00.000 they'll give their argument. The defense will then come up and give it and get a half an hour. I think that's what the
00:18:04.000 judge actually ruled. But ultimately, I still think most people who have seen this aren't buying into that. And I've
00:18:11.000 seen a bunch of progressives now tweeting out like he's going to be acquitted.
00:18:14.000 Chris Hayes is, I think, a big one.
00:18:16.000 Wow, really?
00:18:17.000 Yeah, Chris Hayes had a monologue, and he was like, he just paused and goes, based on what I've seen, I think an acquittal is going to happen, in all honesty.
00:18:26.000 And I was like, come on, you know, if you've got MSNBC saying he's gonna be acquitted, I think he's gonna be acquitted!
00:18:34.000 I mean, I'll be honest with you, I've been pretty disappointed with the trial in its entirety just because seeing as how important this case is going to be as a landmark for future use of force, self-defense, you know, people who conceal carry in general.
00:18:49.000 I'm very surprised at how ill-prepared I think the defense was to answer a lot of the questions that they brought up, especially as it pertained to like the ammunition choice, the particulars of the weapons, you know, they were talking, you know, using terms like re-rack the slide on an AR-15.
00:19:07.000 They got this female cop up there who's, you know, just not even using the right terminology.
00:19:12.000 First they said he should have had hollow points and then at some point they were trying to insinuate that his FMJ
00:19:19.000 ammo Was designed to go through police armor vests, right?
00:19:23.000 Right, you have all these cops up there and look, you know, I can I can talk about my
00:19:27.000 All day long but like these guys are not firearms experts, okay
00:19:32.000 Cops are not firearms experts.
00:19:35.000 Alec Baldwin was talking about how the solution for Hollywood is to have a police officer on set to clear firearms.
00:19:41.000 I'll tell you this, in all the professional, I've done almost 400 hours of professional firearms training, the only two times I've had a loaded gun pointed at my head were by police officers.
00:19:53.000 And that's not to, you know, insinuate they're all bad, but...
00:19:57.000 I don't know if the prosecutor says something stupid, can the defense object, your honor,
00:20:03.000 that's stupid.
00:20:04.000 You know what I mean?
00:20:06.000 To be fair though, if the prosecutor says something nonsensical, I'm pretty sure that
00:20:10.000 the defense can say objection, false statement or something like that.
00:20:15.000 I don't know.
00:20:16.000 Because my favorite moment in the entire trial, and you guys as gun guys are going to love it, when he said, hollow points are designed to enter the target and explode inside.
00:20:26.000 And Kyle just like, furls his brow like, I don't think that's right.
00:20:29.000 And the judge goes, do you mean expand?
00:20:33.000 They don't explode.
00:20:34.000 Like the prosecutor was saying nonsense.
00:20:37.000 Right.
00:20:37.000 Sure.
00:20:37.000 actually true. The prosecution made the argument that because Kyle Rittenhouse was using full
00:20:40.000 metal jacket, he was trying to shoot through people. Sure.
00:20:45.000 Because full metal jackets designed to go through and I'm like, where was the defense to cross
00:20:50.000 and say, like, that's not true. Right. But the problem was Kyle's not an expert on
00:20:55.000 the they didn't have a firearms expert bullet exploding. I think what happens.
00:20:59.000 It goes in and then the pressure causes it to expand?
00:21:02.000 Hollow point bullets usually have a hollow cavity in the front of the nose, why it's called a hollow point, and what happens when it hits a soft target, they peel back and they become larger.
00:21:12.000 Especially with handguns, you have to understand we use these terms switches and timers, okay?
00:21:17.000 So if I shoot you with a handgun, I could shoot you say in like center mass in the face or in the chest and that's what we would call like a switch, right?
00:21:29.000 Instant, like Anthony Huber, okay?
00:21:31.000 He got shot and two seconds afterward he dropped to the ground.
00:21:33.000 Why?
00:21:34.000 Because he got hit right in the aorta.
00:21:36.000 Instant loss of blood pressure and you're dead before you hit the floor.
00:21:39.000 Same thing if you get hit in the brain, something like that, right?
00:21:42.000 We call the brain box.
00:21:44.000 Timers are, you know, if I shoot you three times in your lower abdomen, well, you may bleed out, but that might take five or ten minutes.
00:21:52.000 And in that five or ten minutes, you can still kill me during that time period.
00:21:56.000 With pistol ammunition in particular, because it has a lot less velocity than rifle ammunition, you want the hole to be as large as possible so that they bleed out as quickly as possible.
00:22:07.000 Rifle ammunition has some other wounding characteristics, which doesn't require it to be as large per se.
00:22:14.000 But the funny thing is, 55 grain full metal jacket ammo, which is what he was using, that's what the military originally specified in the original M16 rifle.
00:22:26.000 And they chose that specifically because at velocities over approximately 2,600 feet per second, which it would have been at coming out of the barrel of his rifle, they are designed to tumble and fragment very reliably.
00:22:40.000 So, could they have passed through Rosenbaum?
00:22:43.000 Potentially.
00:22:44.000 But they didn't pass through Huber because there was no exit wound on him.
00:22:48.000 They worked exactly as designed.
00:22:51.000 So, this idea that full metal jacket is always designed to pass through somebody is a total misnomer.
00:22:57.000 That to me was insane.
00:22:58.000 I can't believe that they didn't have a ballistics expert up there to explain these things.
00:23:01.000 The defense screwed that up.
00:23:02.000 The prosecution, I believe he said, did he say it was designed to go through?
00:23:07.000 Pass through.
00:23:09.000 And the judge called it a steel jacketed round.
00:23:11.000 Steel jacket, right.
00:23:12.000 It's not.
00:23:13.000 It's a copper jacket.
00:23:14.000 Right.
00:23:14.000 And I was just like, you're right.
00:23:16.000 The defense didn't have a firearms expert?
00:23:19.000 That's insane to me because Kyle Rittenhouse could have said in that line of questioning where they could have brought up an expert and he could have said, the use of hollow point rounds suggest intent to cause more bodily harm.
00:23:29.000 Sure.
00:23:29.000 In fact, by Kyle Rittenhouse using a full metal jacket, which is much more of a standard, basic round for this rifle, it stands to reason, if the round passed through, it would cause less damage and be less likely to kill.
00:23:40.000 They could have had someone testify that.
00:23:41.000 You could argue that six ways from Sunday, though.
00:23:43.000 Because if I, let's just, now you have the issue, I use a full metal jacket round that is not as effective when impacting soft tissue.
00:23:52.000 At creating a larger wound cavity, so a full metal jacket round is more likely to pass through, therefore I was not interested in killing them, only seriously maiming them.
00:24:02.000 That's the murder charge.
00:24:03.000 It is still a murder charge, but attempted murder.
00:24:08.000 There's risk there, right?
00:24:09.000 What he was trying to say is that if you were preparing for overpenetration, you were being reckless.
00:24:14.000 Right, yes.
00:24:14.000 The argument could have been, you know, the prosecution suggesting someone else should
00:24:19.000 use hollow points.
00:24:20.000 Hollow points more likely to cause, you know, tissue damage, more likely to kill.
00:24:23.000 I mean, if Binger's a prosecuting attorney, he should be disbarred for this level of incompetence.
00:24:28.000 The point is, he was being, Rittenhouse was charged with intentional homicide.
00:24:32.000 If he said, you know, I, I, it's a, it's a standard round.
00:24:35.000 It's very basic.
00:24:36.000 It doesn't have any kind of added characteristics.
00:24:38.000 We're going through an ammo shortage.
00:24:40.000 Right.
00:24:41.000 The jacket is simply so that it doesn't put lead deposits in the rifle.
00:24:45.000 In the barrel.
00:24:46.000 It's basically just to keep it clean.
00:24:46.000 In the barrel.
00:24:48.000 And, you know, I thought to myself, if I use hollow point or any kind of polymer tip or specialized round, that might actually hurt people more.
00:24:55.000 And I don't want anyone to get seriously hurt.
00:24:56.000 I just want to stop the threat against me.
00:24:57.000 Sure.
00:24:58.000 That would call into question the homicide charge.
00:25:00.000 He could try and say, well, you're being reckless then.
00:25:03.000 And I'd say, well, actually, like you mentioned, the 223s will tumble around inside but not
00:25:07.000 expand.
00:25:08.000 So I was actually hoping that, you know, if, or I wouldn't say the word hoping, but I was
00:25:12.000 scared in the event if I used a more serious round, I would take someone's life.
00:25:16.000 And I figured to myself, I don't want to do that.
00:25:18.000 So I wouldn't.
00:25:19.000 Yeah.
00:25:20.000 And people think that this is just gun people like being pedantic with terminology.
00:25:23.000 You know, we hear that a lot from anti-gun people in particular.
00:25:26.000 Oh, you guys are so caught up in terminology, rifle, pistol, short barrel, et cetera.
00:25:31.000 And my answer that is always a couple things.
00:25:34.000 First of all, this is like a common issue that we have to talk about with ammunition.
00:25:37.000 In particular, there are people who that that's like a myth you see on the internet.
00:25:41.000 Oh, if you If you're a home reloader and you make your own ammo and it's higher power than what you would buy off the shelf, you know, if you use that in a self-defense situation, they're going to use that against you and try to paint you as some kind of killer.
00:25:53.000 So you should only use, I hear this from a lot of firearms instructors, that you should call your local police department, find out what your local police officers carry, which are almost always going to be a hollow point of some variety, And that's what you should use, because then if you get up in court, you can say, hey, I shot the guy with the same thing that the Novi police or the, you know, whatever police department uses.
00:26:16.000 So I'm in the clear.
00:26:17.000 Did you guys see Gage Grosskreutz say that .223 is a large caliber rifle round?
00:26:22.000 Yeah.
00:26:23.000 They needed a firearms expert to be like, that's not true.
00:26:23.000 It's just nonsense.
00:26:28.000 It's actually on the smaller end, right?
00:26:32.000 And lower chamber pressure.
00:26:34.000 Yeah, chamber pressure is, you know, on par, but in terms of the diameter of the bullet, you know, and the muzzle energy compared to say, like 308 Winchester, or 30-06, which, you know, we were fielding in World War Two, I mean, you're talking about almost double the muzzle energy.
00:26:50.000 Could you imagine Kyle walking around with like a Barrett M82?
00:26:52.000 Well, yeah, I mean he'd be ripped.
00:26:56.000 When we went to the range, Forrest actually held it up.
00:27:00.000 It's not an easy gun to wield.
00:27:02.000 What is it, like 70 pounds?
00:27:03.000 It's not 70, it's 40.
00:27:04.000 It's a heavy gun.
00:27:05.000 Without any optics, it's about 30.
00:27:06.000 I think it was at 27.
00:27:12.000 How close towards you is the center of mass on that thing?
00:27:15.000 Not close.
00:27:16.000 It's a heavy bullet.
00:27:18.000 The barrel, you know, especially on large rifles, the barrel is very thick.
00:27:23.000 So that's where the majority of the weight in a firearm is, because the barrel has to be able to withstand, especially like long barrel with a 50 BMG, if you look at those under a really high speed camera, 100,000 frames per second, you'll see the barrel wave.
00:27:37.000 Uh, so they have to be very, very thick, and the steel's very heavy, so they're almost always front heavy.
00:27:43.000 We should have actually grabbed some rounds to show.
00:27:46.000 I wish we did.
00:27:46.000 We don't- Yeah.
00:27:47.000 Like, I literally- Well, we have the- I got some in my car.
00:27:50.000 We have the 50 BMG- Yeah, so- No, but- Well, see, and this is the misnomer, so, you know, you'll see- Oh, by the way, these are available on our website.
00:27:59.000 They're serialized.
00:28:01.000 Let's Go Brandon, Phoenix Ammunition.
00:28:03.000 So, you know, this is a Fiat, this is a 50 BMG cartridge case.
00:28:06.000 But, you know, the actual projectile itself and again, with the terminology like being that this is what I do for a living, I say projectile because, you know, people will commonly refer to as the entire cartridge as a bullet.
00:28:18.000 But really the bullet is only the thing that comes out and so like I've seen ads from moms demand action where you'll
00:28:25.000 see them Showing the whole cartridge like coming out at the end of
00:28:28.000 the rail. That's how stupid these people are a lot of movies
00:28:30.000 So I want to talk about something else too. Can we first cover up the five five six two two three question?
00:28:36.000 Yeah, yeah, I mean because I think this is actually much more important the
00:28:40.000 Going back to the Kyle Rittenhouse case, there are multiple things that are going on in this trial that the person who's on trial is actually the American family.
00:28:48.000 Like, you and I and every individual person.
00:28:50.000 And the first example of the 556 question, the 223, right?
00:28:54.000 I'm not going to go down to the arguments on what's the difference between 5.56 and .223.
00:28:57.000 For the remainder of this conversation, they're effectively the same thing.
00:29:00.000 You're talking about years of change, and it's a long story.
00:29:04.000 The .223 round was designed to be shot out of a 16 or 18, 16, 20 inch barrel, a longer barrel, so it can build up muzzle velocity.
00:29:12.000 So the things that impact the effectiveness of that round are the load that is used, the projectile that is used, the rifling of the barrel, the length of the barrel, All of these factors go into play where you see where in, or was it maybe 10 years ago, short barreled rifles concepts became super popular.
00:29:29.000 One of the reasons why the Mark 18 has a 10.8, 10.3 inch barrel is because that's about as close as you can get before that bullet, that projectile once fired does not move fast enough to produce what are they called hydrostatic Yeah, hydrostatic shock, terminal wounding.
00:29:46.000 You're looking at like very, very detailed stories.
00:29:49.000 So when somebody says that the AR-15 is a deadly, dangerous weapon of war, they are simultaneously being met by veterans overseas who complained... It wasn't deadly enough.
00:30:02.000 Using a 5.56 rifle with green tip rounds, armor piercing, language out the door, we're having issues because the guy was on drugs and would shrug it off.
00:30:12.000 Back to timers and switches.
00:30:13.000 That's why they made the .458 SOCOM, right?
00:30:17.000 That's one of the reasons.
00:30:18.000 I mean, they've redesigned the... So one of the problems they had in Afghanistan in particular was they chopped... So again, you know, the original M16 was designed around a 20-inch barrel.
00:30:27.000 So you're getting 3,200 feet per second muzzle velocity.
00:30:31.000 They chopped that down to 16 inches, and then when you're in Afghanistan, Iraq, you're clearing these very small buildings, they needed to be able to maneuver around corners, so they chopped the barrels down even further.
00:30:43.000 So now, muzzle velocity, you're only getting about 2,600 feet per second, and that's right on the line where that bullet is going to not tumble, but just pass straight through a target.
00:30:52.000 And so they started to redesign.
00:30:55.000 They went up to a 77 grain round, made the bullet heavier so that it would tumble a little bit faster.
00:31:01.000 They increased the twist rate on the barrel.
00:31:03.000 They started to play around with, now they have a new version, the M855A1.
00:31:07.000 It's got a steel tip at the end.
00:31:11.000 So it helps it to pass through particular barriers and all these things were tested on what we saw in Afghanistan in the global war on terror as they cut the barrels down and they saw yeah, you know 22556 got a bad reputation for a little while because They were having a lot of pass-throughs.
00:31:29.000 They had designed things to work against people with body armor.
00:31:31.000 They weren't wearing body armor They weren't tumbling So they had, you know, the military, unfortunately, is not very good at, like, redesigning the whole thing as a package.
00:31:41.000 They cut the barrel down, they forget about the ammunition.
00:31:43.000 They redesign the ammunition, they forget about the rifle.
00:31:46.000 And it takes a long time to get all the way through.
00:31:48.000 I think one thing we're learning a lot about, which most of us probably already knew, if you're somebody who knows guns, and you guys infinitely more than the average person, You know all the different reasons for different bullets, all the different reasons for different barrel lengths and styles, handgun versus rifle, heavy barrel versus, you know, etc.
00:32:08.000 And what I've come to start, you know, realizing is in the past few years when I've been buying guns and learning about them, when you look at this trial, it really exemplifies how the average Urban Democrat type person thinks all that exists are AR-15s and bullets.
00:32:26.000 They don't realize that, like, you're talking about .223 and .556.
00:32:30.000 They can both be fired out of a .556, but a .556 can't be in a .223.
00:32:32.000 That's correct, right?
00:32:34.000 Yeah.
00:32:34.000 Well, through a bolt-action rifle, yes.
00:32:38.000 You should not.
00:32:40.000 The reason why that happens is because bolt-action rifles that were chambered in .223 40 years ago And that is true of 7.62 and 3.08.
00:32:46.000 Same, similar.
00:32:47.000 chamber pressure of the 5.56.
00:32:49.000 And that is true of 7.62 and 3.08.
00:32:52.000 There's a similar issue.
00:32:53.000 Same, similar.
00:32:54.000 It has a lot more, I mean, there are more nuances, but a major nuance of that is because
00:33:00.000 of the years that those bolt action rifles were popular.
00:33:03.000 So in 2021.
00:33:05.000 I go to a gun shop, I was buying an M1A, and the guy was, there was an argument over whether
00:33:11.000 or not you should load 3.08 in an M1A because it was designed for 7.62, and they're functional,
00:33:17.000 identical rounds, but the higher chamber pressure could be bad.
00:33:19.000 And some guy's telling me a story about how one gun he saw exploded, and everyone's like,
00:33:22.000 that never happened.
00:33:23.000 You're lying, they're arguing about it.
00:33:25.000 The point I'm getting at is, I got into an argument on Facebook with some guy who was like, why do you need an assault rifle?
00:33:32.000 Or whatever.
00:33:33.000 And then I'm like, you know what?
00:33:34.000 I'm not an expert, but I do know about the weapons I have and why I have them.
00:33:39.000 And so I just explained why the different kind of rounds, why the different kind of shotgun shells or whatever, why the different kind of shotgun.
00:33:47.000 And it's like, some are better at close range, some are better at medium range, some bullets do one thing or another.
00:33:52.000 And the issue is that, The world isn't rifle, handgun, and bullet.
00:33:56.000 Right.
00:33:57.000 Which is what most of these establishment gun control type people and the prosecutor in the Rittenhouse case seem to think.
00:34:03.000 So I want to get into the perfect example of this.
00:34:06.000 And we were talking about it before the show.
00:34:08.000 One of the questions asked to the prosecutor was, in the moment when Gage Grosskreutz was pointing the gun at Kyle, the prosecutor said, why did you think he was a threat?
00:34:20.000 Rittenhouse says, because he was pointing a gun at me.
00:34:24.000 And the prosecutor says, he's got a gun in his hand, right?
00:34:28.000 Yes, he could have shot you from 40, 50 feet away, but he didn't choose to.
00:34:32.000 Why did you think that was a threat?
00:34:34.000 And right now it's just like, he was coming at me with a gun.
00:34:37.000 And this is where I was like, they needed that firearms expert to say,
00:34:41.000 in the heat of a moment, with someone like Gage Grosskreutz,
00:34:45.000 who is not a firearms expert who's trained, the likelihood of him actually hitting a target
00:34:50.000 from 50 feet away while running is slim to none.
00:34:53.000 In the dark.
00:34:54.000 In the dark.
00:34:55.000 Which would mean someone who, he had a permit before, it was now invalid, he knows he won't hit the target, so he's closing the distance to guarantee he hit the targets.
00:35:04.000 In fact, that proves He was even more dangerous.
00:35:07.000 Right.
00:35:08.000 If he was trying to shoot from further away, because someone does fire at Kyle Rittenhouse after the fact.
00:35:12.000 You hear the gunshots.
00:35:13.000 Kyle just walks slowly away.
00:35:15.000 Kyle was not threatened by the fact that other people had continued shooting after the fact.
00:35:20.000 Probably because he's like, they're nowhere near me.
00:35:22.000 But the prosecutor got that question in, and there was no one to rebut it.
00:35:26.000 Well, I mean, it's also tragic because now that Gage is missing a part of his bicep, we're not going to be able to take him to a range and see his effectiveness at 40 meters.
00:35:36.000 You know, Gage Grosskreutz, I tweeted this out.
00:35:39.000 I said, people keep cheering for this Kenosha guy who travels, you know, super far to go to a riot, bringing a gun he's not legally allowed to possess.
00:35:49.000 I don't care if he's claiming he wants to provide medical assistance or be an EMT or whatever.
00:35:54.000 He should not have been there.
00:35:55.000 I'm talking about Gage Grosskreutz, of course, not Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:35:58.000 Which is, it's interesting that they keep saying he crossed state lines with an illegal gun, and I'm like, Gage Grosskreutz traveled 40 miles with an illegal gun.
00:36:06.000 Not that I think guns should be illegal, but in this instance, like, statutes of the law.
00:36:09.000 Well, and in Gage's, I mean, first of all, he's carrying a .40, so, obviously, he doesn't know what he's doing.
00:36:16.000 He's on his way to an IDPA match.
00:36:17.000 .40 like, yeah.
00:36:18.000 .40 caliber.
00:36:19.000 .40 Smith & Wesson.
00:36:21.000 That's a, that's an inside gun joke.
00:36:22.000 Anyway, Why nobody uses .40?
00:36:26.000 It's just kind of an overrated caliber.
00:36:27.000 It had its time and everybody kind of jumped on this bandwagon.
00:36:32.000 It's a watered-down 10mm because the FBI basically invented 10mm because there was a couple of bad shootouts they were involved in so they wanted something really really powerful which 10mm is.
00:36:44.000 But then they found that their agents couldn't handle the recoil, so then they watered it down and created .40 Smith & Wesson, which is the same bullet, a little bit shorter case, less powder.
00:36:54.000 And so for a while, it was more powerful than 9mm, enough to warrant it.
00:36:59.000 But these days, with modern powder and bullet technology, the difference in recoil isn't worth the added penetration, the lower magazine capacity, the inability to put two, three rounds in the same hole, all those kinds of things.
00:37:14.000 But what I was getting at with Gage is, everybody in this country who concealed carries a gun on a daily basis knew that that guy, I mean, he was a liar, obviously, but the minute that that prosecutor said, so, you know, you carry this gun every day, and he said, Oh, yeah, wallet, keys, gun every day, I leave the house the same way.
00:37:31.000 And the prosecutor said, Do you know if you had one in the chamber that night?
00:37:35.000 And he said, I don't know.
00:37:36.000 Okay, everybody knows, right?
00:37:38.000 We can get into the debate about should you carry with one in the chamber or not?
00:37:42.000 The answer is yes.
00:37:44.000 There is no debate.
00:37:44.000 The answer is yes.
00:37:45.000 I don't care about your Israeli training or whatever.
00:37:47.000 The answer is yes.
00:37:48.000 But the point is, even if you subscribe to the idea that you shouldn't carry one in the chamber, at least you know.
00:37:55.000 Everybody knows who is all serious about the fact that they conceal carry and having a gun.
00:38:02.000 They know whether they have one in the chamber or not.
00:38:04.000 Period.
00:38:05.000 When you pick the weapon up, you check.
00:38:07.000 When you hand the weapon to somebody else, you check.
00:38:09.000 Then they check.
00:38:10.000 Everybody checks.
00:38:11.000 Everybody knows.
00:38:12.000 And, um, the other thing, too, is I remember watching this commercial for, like, workplace firearms mounting or whatever.
00:38:19.000 And it was like, I got an ad on Facebook for it.
00:38:21.000 And basically, all of it shows that when they're putting the gun in there, it's actually designed so that you push the gun with your hands to chamber around under your desk.
00:38:30.000 Like, what's the point of having a weapon unready to be used?
00:38:32.000 Someone kicks your door in and threatens your life and you're like, give me a minute to, you know, there we go.
00:38:37.000 All right, we're good.
00:38:38.000 And it is funny, too, in the movies, they always rack the slide.
00:38:42.000 And speaking of movies and checking your guns, we have Alec Baldwin.
00:38:47.000 And I mean, really, at this point in time, they should have called Alec Baldwin on the stage to be one of the...
00:38:54.000 Because he would have said, he knows what he's talking about.
00:38:57.000 He's a famous Hollywood actor.
00:38:59.000 Alec Baldwin was handed a firearm, pointed at somebody, and pulled the trigger believing that he was so holy of a person, he didn't even have to check the- I'm sorry, you're incorrect.
00:39:13.000 You're incorrect.
00:39:14.000 What year was the movie set to take place in?
00:39:16.000 Do you know?
00:39:17.000 It's gonna be 1984.
00:39:18.000 It was like 1886.
00:39:18.000 1890s, I believe.
00:39:18.000 1880s.
00:39:18.000 Revolvers back then.
00:39:19.000 1886? 1890s I believe, 1880s.
00:39:23.000 Revolvers back then, could you just pull the trigger?
00:39:27.000 Well, if they're single action only, no.
00:39:29.000 No, they were single action.
00:39:32.000 My understanding is that it was a single action .45.
00:39:34.000 Okay, the model that he used was a single action, that answers the question.
00:39:37.000 But think about what that means.
00:39:39.000 Not only did he pull the gun and point it, he had to pull the hammer back before pulling the trigger.
00:39:43.000 Yeah.
00:39:44.000 So this is like a, look, people might think it's nitpicking, but this is literally him making a very deliberate action to be like, not only am I going to, because some might argue that he was just going like, ah, ah, you know, like thinking he had an empty, you know, cleared cold gun or whatever.
00:39:59.000 No, no, he pulled the hammer back.
00:40:00.000 He was intending for it to go off.
00:40:01.000 Yeah.
00:40:02.000 How that happens.
00:40:04.000 Well, that's why this is this stuff is really important as I was saying earlier about firearm terminology in particular People people on the other side think that we get too caught up in the details, but the details matter I mean when you if you're a gun owner, you almost have to be a paralegal in a sense because you saw that in some of the jury instructions they were talking about with Rittenhouse with the gun charge getting basically thrown out and You know, the whole thing came down to, was he in possession of a short-barreled rifle or not?
00:40:34.000 Well, if you ask your average person, what is a short-barreled rifle, they probably wouldn't be able to tell you, but the difference is, you know, a sixteenth of an inch.
00:40:42.000 If it's 15.9 inches, you end up like Randy Weaver.
00:40:46.000 If it's 16 inches, you don't.
00:40:48.000 So, like, these things matter.
00:40:51.000 You know, we...
00:40:53.000 This idea that like firearm laws are fast and loose is just nonsense.
00:40:58.000 They've painted it to be that way.
00:41:00.000 But you have to know, you know, is the forward grip to, you know, just a little bit too long?
00:41:05.000 Well, now you've got an AOW.
00:41:08.000 There's so much detail involved.
00:41:11.000 So this is really important.
00:41:12.000 I want to talk about Kyle Rittenhouse basically winning on this gun charge, but the judge was not, I guess, strong enough to just say, get it out.
00:41:19.000 Because I think as a question of law, the judge literally said, there is an exemption for Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:41:25.000 It exists and I can see it.
00:41:27.000 And then he goes, I'll just give the jury the instructions on that one.
00:41:30.000 And it's like, you're the judge!
00:41:32.000 So here's the way I put it.
00:41:33.000 Imagine the law says if you are standing on the street and you cross the street in the middle of the road without using the crosswalk, you are guilty of jaywalking.
00:41:42.000 And then you're sleeping on a bench and a cop walks over and says you're under arrest for jaywalking.
00:41:46.000 As a matter of law, you did not jaywalk.
00:41:49.000 There's no giving that to a jury.
00:41:51.000 So in this instance, they're going with the affirmative defense of self-defense.
00:41:55.000 And when it comes to the gun charge, there is no affirmative defense of self-defense.
00:41:59.000 But there is a, you can't charge someone with a crime when they're not subject to that law, when they're specifically carved out.
00:42:06.000 So that being said, There's a provision.
00:42:09.000 First, the law, was it like 948.60 or whatever, states, it's titled, a person under the age of 18 carrying a deadly weapon.
00:42:19.000 It says, section 2A, no person under the age of 18 shall carry a deadly weapon.
00:42:23.000 Of course, an AR-15 is a deadly weapon.
00:42:25.000 And then it says in section 3C, basically, they must also not be in compliance with these two laws.
00:42:32.000 These two, you know, it's like 29504 or something like that.
00:42:35.000 Long story short, It's very easy to understand.
00:42:39.000 They drafted a law that said if you're under the age of 18, you can't have a deadly weapon.
00:42:42.000 Unless... Here are the exceptions.
00:42:46.000 If you are in violation of two different provisions, one of the provisions is you're hunting, and the other is you're under 16.
00:42:53.000 You have to violate both.
00:42:55.000 Why?
00:42:55.000 It's actually really simple.
00:42:58.000 If you are 12 years old, and with your dad, and he gives you a rifle to go hunting, and you are hunting with him, you are not violating the law.
00:43:07.000 If you are 16 and you take your rifle by yourself and carrying it, you are not in violation of the law.
00:43:14.000 If you are under the age of 16, you're now in violation of one of the statutes and you're not hunting.
00:43:19.000 You're now in violation of both statutes.
00:43:21.000 Now the law applies to you.
00:43:23.000 That's specifically what it says.
00:43:25.000 And the judge said, I agree with you, the defense.
00:43:29.000 I'm just going to instruct the jury to that regard.
00:43:31.000 And it's just like, Then if you agree, it specifically says this law does not apply to you if you are 16 or 17, then why would the jury even have to answer the question?
00:43:43.000 Which goes back to my earlier point on the judge trusts in the system.
00:43:48.000 He wants to see the system work out.
00:43:50.000 He's coming with good faith, he's believing that the jurors are going to come not under duress, that they're going to understand what he's saying, they're going to be able to understand what he's speaking about the law, and then they will be able to follow through with it.
00:44:04.000 This is the meta-narrative of the problem that you have here with the entire Kyle Rittenhouse case, is you have a judge who is coming in good faith, being played against by both a media apparatus and an overtly Oh yeah.
00:44:22.000 Did you see, uh, there was a point where, I can't remember which charge it was, I think it was like second degree reckless homicide.
00:44:28.000 Like, what do you do about that?
00:44:29.000 Did you see, there was a point where, I can't remember which charge it was,
00:44:32.000 I think it was like second degree reckless homicide.
00:44:35.000 The judge looked at this prosecutor and said, if the jury comes back with a verdict on that charge
00:44:43.000 and the defense objects, it'll get overturned.
00:44:46.000 It'll get reversed.
00:44:47.000 And the prosecutor was like, what?
00:44:48.000 And the judge was like, I'm telling you, that will get reversed.
00:44:52.000 Like, you will lose if the jury rules on that.
00:44:54.000 It was crazy to hear because the judge was basically saying The jury might actually convict Kyle wrongly, which could
00:45:00.000 happen.
00:45:01.000 And then it made me realize, he'd have been way better off with a bench trial.
00:45:05.000 But I guess they didn't know, you never know if you're going to get a good judge or an ideologue.
00:45:09.000 Sure.
00:45:09.000 In this instance, they actually got a good judge.
00:45:12.000 He's just, like you were saying, like the decorum, the regalia, he really wants to prove America works, which he can't do.
00:45:19.000 I think we can actually go down another layer in philosophy here.
00:45:22.000 So I'm going to go put on my be a philosopher hat and talk about how we think about cultures.
00:45:27.000 And so, what the judge is thinking is that both the prosecution and the defense have the same goal in mind, that justice be sought out.
00:45:37.000 Right?
00:45:38.000 That both parties, both the defense and the prosecution, are coming to the court, both of them are looking at something that they believe is called justice, and they want to see justice enacted.
00:45:47.000 The problem is, that's not the case.
00:45:49.000 They don't both have the same objective.
00:45:52.000 The defense and the judge want to see justice completed.
00:45:56.000 The defense believes that, or justice enacted, the defense believes that it would be just for Kyle to be acquitted on a self-defense charge, which is a very important thing if you think that you're a human being.
00:46:08.000 Because what the prosecution wants and what the what the media attached to it, you know Whatever what the prosecution wants is that if you use force even in self-defense against our ideologues We have the right to prosecute you that it is not a combination of this is not a court case This is a movie script when Stephen Crowder said that this is a landmark moment when Kyle Rittenhouse was breaking down on the screen which I yeah that was an emotional scenario for a lot of people and Do I like emotional arguments?
00:46:38.000 No.
00:46:39.000 I'm supposed to be the philosopher, the cold calculated whatever.
00:46:42.000 But the issue that comes down to this conversation is that when Kyle Rittenhouse is now on trial, being prosecuted by a prosecutor who is overtly lying, deceiving, cheating, playing dirty at the game, we now see that no, the prosecutor and the people who are against Kyle Rittenhouse do not want to see justice, they want to see power.
00:47:03.000 a victory. They won't want a victory. That will be a symbolic victory for them which says,
00:47:09.000 ha, at any given point where we decide that anything that you do is arbitrarily racist,
00:47:14.000 we can light your city on fire, we can terrorize your civilians, we can go after your people,
00:47:19.000 we can colonize your city with our neo-fascist ideology, and then if you fight back, we see
00:47:26.000 ourselves as morally justified at stringing you out in as much pain as possible.
00:47:31.000 I was talking to a leftist friend of mine today who said he was hoping that the state would align on this one and, you know, basically stop the reactionaries.
00:47:41.000 And I was like, what do you mean reactionary?
00:47:44.000 And he's like, you know, the people that are trying to rewind civil rights.
00:47:47.000 And then I was like, oh, you're talking about Antifa and Black Lives Matter.
00:47:50.000 And he was like, no, I'm talking about Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:47:52.000 And I was like, but Kyle Rittenhouse was there helping the protesters.
00:47:57.000 And he was like, that's not true.
00:47:58.000 And I was like, there's videos of him giving medical assistance to protesters.
00:48:03.000 So he is literally helping them achieve their goal when they're out there protesting.
00:48:07.000 That's a fact.
00:48:07.000 Rittenhouse was helping the rioters.
00:48:10.000 That's true.
00:48:12.000 And I don't think it has a bearing on a self-defense case, or him as a case.
00:48:15.000 I think he was a good kid trying to do good.
00:48:18.000 Because it's like when you look at the, you know, I'll throw it to Vosch, who makes the Marvel movie comparison about like, the good guy puts their gun down.
00:48:24.000 Well, the good guy helps even the bad guys.
00:48:27.000 And Kyle Reynolds was there just to help people.
00:48:29.000 Be it stop fires, protect businesses, and make sure people who got hurt, regardless of who they were, were being cared for.
00:48:35.000 Alright, so I'm going to go put some people in a cattle car.
00:48:35.000 Sure.
00:48:38.000 Do you want to help make sure none of them get away?
00:48:40.000 Or, you know, if I sprain my ankle, you help me out too?
00:48:43.000 You know?
00:48:45.000 Look, look, look.
00:48:46.000 The point I'm trying to make is that Kyle Rittenhouse didn't go there as a reactionary.
00:48:49.000 He didn't go there as someone who says, I have to stop Black Lives Matter.
00:48:51.000 He went there as, I want to make sure people are safe.
00:48:54.000 So that could be seen as being revolutionary if he's helping revolutionaries, right?
00:48:59.000 The idea that the leftists perceive this, the way they perceive Kyle is, it's insane.
00:49:03.000 They didn't watch the trial, they didn't watch any of the videos, they just think that he's far right and hates social justice or whatever.
00:49:09.000 Well, there's also an element of the quote boogaloo boys or, you know, people who are part Of armed groups who are supporters of black lives matter who came out and said that they're here with the protesters that they don't like the police they don't like the government and they want to stand with the protesters but guard some private businesses so there is an element of this that that was there before that was something that is worth considering and not denying.
00:49:09.000 Yeah.
00:49:37.000 Yeah, so I'm from Minneapolis, right?
00:49:39.000 And I live in Minneapolis while Minneapolis is going through the great riots of 2020.
00:49:42.000 So it was a wonderful experience.
00:49:45.000 And what did we see happen?
00:49:47.000 Yes, everyone took to the streets during the day.
00:49:49.000 Was there massive protests?
00:49:50.000 Were they...
00:49:50.000 Yes.
00:49:52.000 Uh, very large, orchestrated pomp and circumstance events.
00:49:56.000 Perhaps.
00:49:56.000 You can make your criticism whatever.
00:49:58.000 But when it got dark at night, people did look out.
00:50:02.000 They did.
00:50:02.000 They wanted to look out for each other, to at least some extent.
00:50:05.000 And suddenly, this very broad blending of people, where some people were out in the streets, literally to cause chaos and mayhem.
00:50:13.000 Their whole purpose was just to find, damage, burn, destroy, loot.
00:50:18.000 And you know, that is still going on, in case people keep forgetting.
00:50:21.000 But the issue that happened then is you had an entire other support element of people that basically said, here's our solidarity because we think your motive is correct.
00:50:31.000 Stay off my lawn.
00:50:33.000 You don't burn down my house.
00:50:34.000 Don't attack my business.
00:50:36.000 And it got very muddy very quickly.
00:50:38.000 However, there were differences in people who were there to help and there to hurt.
00:50:44.000 I actually had an idea earlier.
00:50:48.000 Somewhat in a similar vein, San Francisco and the crime, and they're not prosecuting if you steal under a certain amount.
00:50:53.000 And I was like, I'm going to open a bodega, like a little corner store.
00:50:56.000 Every item costs $2,000.
00:50:57.000 But you get $1,995 off when purchasing with a credit or debit card.
00:51:01.000 That's a good idea.
00:51:06.000 So now when they come in and start shoveling everything in their bag, it's like, that's $50,000 worth of beans, bro.
00:51:12.000 And he's going to be like, it's, it's just like, you know, a couple of cans of beans.
00:51:16.000 Yeah.
00:51:17.000 10, well, that would be like 25 cans of beans.
00:51:19.000 That's going to happen anyway.
00:51:21.000 That'll happen anyway.
00:51:22.000 And then they'll arrest you for a price gouging.
00:51:25.000 Right.
00:51:26.000 They do that in Venezuela.
00:51:28.000 I have to be honest.
00:51:30.000 He grabs one can of beans and runs out.
00:51:31.000 I'm like, that's $2,000.
00:51:32.000 It says on it, two grand.
00:51:35.000 There was something... I'm gonna go on a bit of a anti-police... I'm gonna put my Michael Malice hat on for a minute, even though he's still blocked me on Twitter.
00:51:45.000 Oh, he did?
00:51:45.000 Yeah, that's a long story.
00:51:47.000 Anyway, I'm gonna put my anti-police hat on for a minute.
00:51:51.000 And I have to say, I've become much more disenfranchised over the last two years than probably ever before.
00:51:57.000 So there was something kind of sick about seeing those cops testifying for the prosecution sitting on the prosecution side, knowing full well that those guys sat on their hands and didn't do a thing while Kenosha was on fire.
00:52:13.000 And whether you think he should have been there or not, I would argue a 17 year old kid shouldn't have put himself in that situation.
00:52:23.000 He put himself there because he saw that the supposed adults in the room weren't doing anything.
00:52:29.000 And, you know, as time has gone on, we've seen through the COVID lockdowns that this, you know, people have always argued, well, the cops will be on our side when You know, whatever the big igloo happens and society collapses, they're all going to rally around us.
00:52:48.000 And I used to think that, I mean, I was maybe like 80% in that camp and I think I'm basically 0% in that camp at this point in time.
00:52:57.000 I mean, they will put you in jail, they will arrest you for carrying a concealed weapon, even though, you know, like, There is no such thing as a police officer making, you know, you get pulled over for being 10 miles over the speed limit and they can let you off with a warning.
00:53:13.000 If they pull you over in New Jersey for having a loaded handgun, you're not getting let go under any circumstances.
00:53:19.000 It's just never gonna happen.
00:53:20.000 And so, like, at some point we have to look at this and say, You guys are willing to overlook the guy who had a joint in his ashtray, but you're not willing to overlook something that is a constitutionally protected right.
00:53:35.000 Who do we need to start holding responsible for this?
00:53:39.000 I'm sorry, I'm not going to donate to your benevolent police fund.
00:53:42.000 I'm not going to answer the call from the Fraternal Order of Police anymore.
00:53:46.000 Sorry, but guess what, you know, we supply to sit to the citizenry to the American people.
00:53:54.000 And just because you're a police officer doesn't mean that I should go out of my way to make sure that I cater to your whims, because you guys certainly aren't doing us any favors.
00:54:03.000 I'll tell you why I've been much more on the abolish the police train.
00:54:08.000 In a grander scale, I understand the federal law enforcement is very different from local law enforcement, but wow, watching what happened to James O'Keefe should be... That is a red flag that you can see from space.
00:54:21.000 It's so big!
00:54:22.000 But let's get real and talk about local police.
00:54:25.000 We have Kenosha.
00:54:26.000 What did they say?
00:54:27.000 They screamed at Kyle Rittenhouse when he tried turning himself in.
00:54:30.000 Pepper sprayed him.
00:54:30.000 Pepper sprayed him.
00:54:31.000 They pepper sprayed him.
00:54:32.000 Did they stop the riding?
00:54:33.000 Could they have?
00:54:33.000 No.
00:54:34.000 Yes.
00:54:34.000 They didn't do it.
00:54:35.000 In Chicago, in New York, in all these places, they don't actually stop these criminals for the most part.
00:54:41.000 But hold on.
00:54:42.000 So what do we end up seeing?
00:54:44.000 The story out of New Jersey that I'd love to tell.
00:54:46.000 A woman who lived in Philadelphia, where she's legally allowed to carry a weapon, was driving to go gambling in Atlantic City, and she made the mistake of not realizing New Jersey is probably the strictest gun control state.
00:54:58.000 She crosses the bridge.
00:54:59.000 There's a straight highway that goes straight from the bridge from Philadelphia to Atlantic City.
00:55:04.000 It's like a 45-minute drive.
00:55:05.000 It's very close.
00:55:07.000 And she gets pulled over and politely and respectfully says, Officer, I do have my weapon and my permit with me.
00:55:13.000 And he goes, okay, you're under arrest, felony charge.
00:55:16.000 This cop was like, yes, I got a middle-aged woman and she's going to prison!
00:55:21.000 Even though she was complying, she was informing me, she was being nice.
00:55:24.000 He could have just said, ma'am, in New Jersey, you're not allowed to have this weapon.
00:55:27.000 I'm going to escort you back to the bridge and send you home.
00:55:30.000 No, this cop was gleefully willing to Bash her face in and send her to prison!
00:55:35.000 And she only ended up getting cleared on this one.
00:55:37.000 I don't know the full story, but I was told this at a gun shop.
00:55:40.000 The NRA intervened and went ballistic with lawsuit threats in the city and the state was just like, get her out of here.
00:55:46.000 It actually happens all the time.
00:55:48.000 I've heard of situations where people got their flights rerouted and they had to land in New York, for example.
00:55:55.000 And it's like, well, uh, I have to stay here overnight.
00:55:58.000 I've got firearms in my checked luggage.
00:56:01.000 Uh, I'm not going to leave it here at the airport.
00:56:03.000 I mean, I had Delta leave a bag of mine with four firearms in it unattended for about four hours in San Antonio last weekend.
00:56:12.000 So, but if I leave, if I leave the airport in New York with these firearms and I go check in my hotel, now I'm a felon.
00:56:19.000 Or am I?
00:56:20.000 Me too!
00:56:21.000 I was flying from Minnesota to Arizona and they lost my box.
00:56:27.000 Did you hear what the prosecutor said to Rittenhouse?
00:56:28.000 Not their problem.
00:56:29.000 He said, why didn't you leave your gun?
00:56:32.000 Why didn't you take it off?
00:56:33.000 He wanted him to leave it at the gas station.
00:56:34.000 Just put it on the ground and let someone come in!
00:56:36.000 Are you nuts?
00:56:37.000 Yeah, just a complete idiot.
00:56:39.000 I knew a guy who was from California and he was moving to New York and he had two long guns and like two handguns in his trunk and he drove through Illinois and you've got a federal protection when you're driving, when you're moving.
00:56:52.000 Firearm Owners Protection Act.
00:56:53.000 Didn't matter.
00:56:55.000 He became a permanent resident of Illinois because he got pulled over He said, you know, I'm moving.
00:57:02.000 I've got my weapons in the trunk.
00:57:03.000 And they said, I don't care what you're doing.
00:57:05.000 I don't believe you.
00:57:05.000 What you say is irrelevant to the fact that I've caught you with illegal firearms in Illinois.
00:57:10.000 And then they arrested him.
00:57:11.000 He went straight to prison.
00:57:12.000 No bail.
00:57:13.000 He went straight to jail.
00:57:14.000 No bail.
00:57:15.000 And this is not a guy of means.
00:57:17.000 He was not a guy who had the money to file the claims and get the right lawyers.
00:57:21.000 And he basically got four years He ended up doing like one year in prison with like three years of probation, which meant you are now a permanent resident of Illinois.
00:57:29.000 His whole life was destroyed.
00:57:30.000 Yeah.
00:57:31.000 I had, I had lawyers tell me if you are carrying firearms in your car, store it correctly.
00:57:37.000 And if you get pulled over and if, even if you're in a state where you have to tell them you have a firearm, if you have it stored correctly, I had lawyers tell me you don't have to say anything.
00:57:45.000 You don't have to tell them anything.
00:57:46.000 I had other lawyers tell me if I'm flying, I get redirected to New York, which has happened to some people.
00:57:52.000 Just leave the gun there.
00:57:53.000 Don't pick it up because there's police officers literally waiting there, looking, waiting for you to touch the bag.
00:57:59.000 And as soon as you do, that's you getting possession of the firearm.
00:58:02.000 And that's some serious charges in New York.
00:58:05.000 So just real quick.
00:58:06.000 How am I, and shout out to Michael Malice for making this argument initially and then having me just more and more go off on this one seed he planted, this anarchist seed in my mind, in New York City where they ban you from legally having, you know, your constitutional rights have been subverted in this state, in New Jersey, in Maryland, where they do it over and over again.
00:58:27.000 And I can tolerate to a certain degree legal arguments where we're going through this.
00:58:31.000 What I can't tolerate is that they have evidence that Gage Grosskreutz was committing crimes.
00:58:36.000 And I'm not just talking about the gun, I'm just saying that they know this guy's a violent rioter, they know what he's doing, and he won't get charged.
00:58:44.000 So let me just hold on a minute.
00:58:45.000 I don't want him to get arrested and charged for concealing and carrying a weapon.
00:58:48.000 I believe Wisconsin should have constitutional care, I believe constitutional care should be nationwide.
00:58:52.000 But you can see who's exempt from the law.
00:58:54.000 Yeah, it's selective prosecution.
00:58:55.000 You can see that a middle-aged... There was another story out of Illinois.
00:58:58.000 A woman from Tennessee, she was in her 60s, she had a snub-nosed revolver of some type, probably, I don't know, a .38 or something.
00:59:04.000 .38, right.
00:59:06.000 She goes to Chicago for vacation, and she has it in her purse, concealed, because she has a concealed carry.
00:59:12.000 And she went to what is now known as Willis Tower, but we call it the Sears Tower.
00:59:16.000 And when she was going up to the observation deck, she said, I do have my weapon with me.
00:59:21.000 Should I leave it here?
00:59:22.000 And they said, oh, no problem, man.
00:59:24.000 Turn around, chance behind your back.
00:59:26.000 And she ended up getting, going to prison.
00:59:28.000 She ended up getting, this was a, I guess it was like a decently high profile gun case in Illinois.
00:59:33.000 She got like four years, I think.
00:59:35.000 So when you see Gage Grosskreutz violating gun laws, and they say, we're not going to execute a search warrant against you, and you're good on this one.
00:59:43.000 We're not even going to check his phone when we have a warrant to check your phone.
00:59:48.000 But no, don't even look.
00:59:50.000 But the old lady?
00:59:51.000 The old lady?
00:59:51.000 You're getting locked up!
00:59:52.000 He was just on Good Morning America.
00:59:54.000 His first interview was literally on one of the America's morning news channels, and of course he didn't get questioned.
01:00:01.000 Of course there wasn't any kind of legitimate cross-examining or even just conversations about another side.
01:00:06.000 Wait, wait, wait.
01:00:08.000 Strahan actually said, you can say whatever you want to say here.
01:00:12.000 And then he just was like, okay, I'll lie.
01:00:14.000 If Kyle is acquitted, he's gonna become very wealthy very fast.
01:00:17.000 I sure hope so.
01:00:18.000 I mean, the selective prosecution, you know, I made a speech about this a couple months ago at a two-way rally up in Michigan.
01:00:26.000 I said, you know, unfortunately, it was in front of a crowd of, you know, a lot of the sort of boomer types, and I said, You know, you guys probably aren't in the same line of thinking as the people who want to legalize marijuana across the country federally, and you may make fun of them as a bunch of stoners and losers and what have you.
01:00:50.000 Those guys have done more in the last 20 years for the legalization of marijuana than any of you guys have done for the proliferation of gun rights.
01:01:00.000 And do you know why they did it?
01:01:01.000 Because they were willing to go to jail.
01:01:03.000 You know, these guys back in the 80s and 90s that were, you know, growing their own pot and doing it brazenly, a lot of them went to jail.
01:01:11.000 Zero?
01:01:11.000 And as a result, now it's legal in how many?
01:01:14.000 25 something states.
01:01:16.000 How many states is it legal to own your own suppressor without having to get a tax stamp from the NFA?
01:01:23.000 Taxes temporarily, right?
01:01:25.000 At what point are we going to go through the same nullification process that?
01:01:31.000 Right now.
01:01:31.000 Marijuana-owned.
01:01:32.000 Kyle Rittenhouse's defense should already be filing a civil rights suit saying his right to keep and bear arms has been infringed.
01:01:39.000 Correct.
01:01:40.000 He's 17.
01:01:41.000 Where's the NRA on this?
01:01:43.000 Where's the FPC?
01:01:44.000 I love the FPC.
01:01:45.000 Where's the NRA on a lot of things?
01:01:47.000 Right, obviously.
01:01:48.000 I say that jokingly because I know that better than probably anybody.
01:01:54.000 The NRA is nowhere to be found.
01:01:56.000 You know, gun owners of America, none of them took a prominent stand in this.
01:02:00.000 Nobody did.
01:02:02.000 I think the jury is going to acquit on the gun charge because the judge said he's going to give the defense's instructions as they wanted them to the jury, which means they will read the portion where it says this law does not apply to you.
01:02:16.000 And the judge actually even said the state has not met its burden of proving that Kyle Rittenhouse was under the age of 16.
01:02:22.000 So I'll give that to the jury.
01:02:23.000 He's passing the buck a little bit.
01:02:25.000 I can respect it because he wants the jury to prove it.
01:02:29.000 However, if he does get convicted on it, they immediately need to file a civil rights suit and say, convicting him on his keeping and bearing arms violates Second Amendment.
01:02:39.000 Second Amendment does not have an age limit on it.
01:02:41.000 I agree.
01:02:42.000 And that'll be really interesting because imagine what happens if that goes to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court says, you know, the Second Amendment doesn't say how old you have to be and then all of a sudden seven-year-olds can possess firearms.
01:02:51.000 Isn't the Supreme Court hearing a case right now regarding New York State versus regarding New York State Pistol and Rifle Association?
01:03:00.000 It's the May issue.
01:03:03.000 May issue.
01:03:04.000 They're dealing with that one.
01:03:06.000 What that means to people who might not understand?
01:03:06.000 Can you explain that?
01:03:08.000 May issues versus shall issues?
01:03:10.000 What the lawsuit is.
01:03:10.000 Basically, the lawsuit is about, in some states, so I'm a resident of Michigan, so in Michigan, if you apply for a concealed pistol license, so long as you do the required training, which is an 8-hour class, which costs about $100, you pay the $100 application fee, unless you are a convicted felon, they have to give you that concealed pistol license.
01:03:35.000 You don't have to give them a reason to have one.
01:03:37.000 In New York, And in California and a couple of Maryland, New Jersey, you have to give them a specific reason why you want to carry a firearm.
01:03:46.000 And in all of those states, it says specifically on the application that self-defense is not a reason to have a concealed pistol license.
01:03:55.000 So you either have to be somebody who's dealing with like cash in transit, you own a jewelry store, or Most of the time, you're just a famous politician, you know who to pay, and that's how people end up getting concealed pistol licenses in those areas.
01:04:12.000 And so, you know, why have it at all at that point in time?
01:04:16.000 It's pointless.
01:04:17.000 New Jersey is laughably known as, if you go to Wikipedia and look at concealed carry states, You'll see the the shall issue and the may issue and then
01:04:26.000 New Jersey is red It says may issue parentheses in practice effectively. No,
01:04:31.000 it's no issue. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I mean, it's it's a very important distinction because at
01:04:36.000 the beginning in a shall issue state unless you have something that has been by due process
01:04:41.000 Concerned considered you not allowed to own a firearm not allowed to carry a firearm then you can carry it
01:04:48.000 In other words, as long as you have nothing, as long as you do not have specific items, mental health issues, which are, they have to be pretty far down to be that clear.
01:04:59.000 But then, unless you have something that removes your ability, negates your ability to own a firearm, the state is required to give it to you.
01:05:08.000 The other opportunity is effectively you have to go to your overlords and say, I'm a good little boy.
01:05:14.000 I want you guys to look up at the screen.
01:05:16.000 I want everyone to see this because this is awesome.
01:05:19.000 What this map shows is that there, as of 2021, the green states are called constitutional carry.
01:05:25.000 What does that mean?
01:05:26.000 What does constitutional carry?
01:05:27.000 Don't need anything.
01:05:28.000 You don't need anything.
01:05:28.000 No permit.
01:05:30.000 The Constitution is your permit.
01:05:31.000 The Second Amendment is my permit.
01:05:32.000 And that has been growing within the last few years.
01:05:34.000 It has been.
01:05:35.000 This wasn't the case.
01:05:36.000 That's why I want everyone to look at this map of 2021.
01:05:39.000 And now I want you to look at this map from 1986.
01:05:42.000 In 1986, you can see it's unrestricted only.
01:05:47.000 Is that Vermont or New Hampshire?
01:05:49.000 That's Vermont in green.
01:05:51.000 Look at this.
01:05:52.000 May issue states are disappearing.
01:05:54.000 No issue states were everywhere.
01:05:56.000 As time goes on, gun rights have been winning.
01:06:00.000 So again, look at, you know, you can look at how it changes over time.
01:06:05.000 How in 1986, I don't know where this map is going to end, in 19, look at it, unrestricted is popping up.
01:06:10.000 This is constitutional carry.
01:06:11.000 Look at all of these, all of these states saying, as per the constitution, you can keep and bear arms, no questions asked.
01:06:17.000 What was that state that did it and then changed?
01:06:19.000 Look at that.
01:06:20.000 Boom.
01:06:25.000 Look at all this no issue.
01:06:27.000 They would not give you a weapon.
01:06:28.000 And now, right here.
01:06:30.000 Look at that.
01:06:32.000 It's a lot of states, still major urban centers.
01:06:35.000 This is what you gotta see.
01:06:35.000 I love this.
01:06:36.000 Yeah, where all the crime is. Look at Hawaii. It says may issue parentheses no issue in practice
01:06:42.000 And there's New Jersey and New York City in New York City parts of California and parts of New York state
01:06:47.000 It is no issue in practice. That is Unconstitutional 100. Yeah
01:06:54.000 The criminals have guns and of course people are left defenseless, as you know, women who have crazy spouses who go through spousal abuse can't defend themselves.
01:07:03.000 Victims are just, you know, told to not defend themselves and call the police and wait maybe five minutes, maybe 10, maybe 15, maybe even 30, who knows how long.
01:07:13.000 Look at Texas.
01:07:14.000 Yeah.
01:07:14.000 That's new.
01:07:15.000 And, you know, if we compared this to a map that showed legalization of marijuana, of course, all of them would be read at the federal level.
01:07:22.000 But, you know, so then in parentheses, we would we would say legalization allowed in practice because no police officer in his right mind is going to enforce federal law in a state where it's allowed.
01:07:34.000 So, I go right back to gun control is losing, but for it to continue to lose, we, at some point, police are going to have to be complicit in that.
01:07:48.000 They're going to have to turn a blind eye.
01:07:48.000 Absolutely.
01:07:51.000 And we have to start expecting them to do that and not begging them to do that.
01:07:56.000 So here's the issue.
01:07:58.000 There are many two-way sanctuaries that have popped up all over the place, particularly where we are right now.
01:08:03.000 So we do the show out of Maryland, which has strict and crazy gun laws.
01:08:07.000 Get a cop, you know, like a state trooper or a local deputy and sheriff and ask them about it, and they're gonna be like, not in my town.
01:08:13.000 And it's kind of, I don't try, look, with all due respect, I actually think we've got some pretty decent cops in these areas, because, you know, Western Maryland is, it's MAGA country, whatever you want to call it.
01:08:23.000 And the cops are all pretty good.
01:08:23.000 Sure.
01:08:25.000 I'm not going to trust a state with political issues to actually uphold their Second Amendment sanctuary, but they have affirmed that.
01:08:33.000 That being said, our workspace is here in Maryland, but I actually live in West Virginia, and so I keep everything out of this state for the most part.
01:08:40.000 And the feds play by a different set of rules, but to kind of add to your point, Throughout human history, soldiers, police, 99.9% of the time follow orders.
01:08:50.000 The problem is a lot of the people giving out orders right now are corrupt.
01:08:53.000 They're rotten to the core.
01:08:55.000 And if you look at just a few months ago, the police were told, break down grandma's door of her small business, shut her down.
01:09:01.000 They did it.
01:09:01.000 Police officers were told, stand down when people are rioting, destroying grandma's business.
01:09:06.000 They did it.
01:09:07.000 The police were told, hey, go after this journalist because he's reporting on stuff that we don't like.
01:09:12.000 They just did that with James O'Keefe.
01:09:15.000 So we are seeing things get out of hand.
01:09:18.000 I know there's, you know, this concept of a rotten apple, but again, when we look at the larger kind of policing around the United States, it has failed the American people.
01:09:29.000 Yeah, I wouldn't even say it's a rotten apple.
01:09:31.000 It's just more, it's honestly, people Cowards.
01:09:35.000 It's people who are just going to comply.
01:09:38.000 From a position of virtue, is the Second Amendment something so cheap that you would expect somebody else to uphold it for you?
01:09:46.000 That's the problem.
01:09:46.000 Never.
01:09:47.000 I don't leave it in the hands of the cops.
01:09:50.000 I trust that the police will honor my Second Amendment, but at the end of the day, I do not leave them with that ultimate decision.
01:09:59.000 Take a look at this story.
01:10:00.000 It's from 2018.
01:10:00.000 I pulled this up.
01:10:01.000 It's a very famous story.
01:10:02.000 Maryland's red flag law turns deadly.
01:10:04.000 Officer kills man who refused to turn in gun.
01:10:08.000 A 61-year-old man is dead after he was shot by an officer trying to enforce Maryland's new red flag law in Ferndale Monday morning.
01:10:15.000 Anne Arundel County Police confirmed the police-involved shooting happened on the 100 block of Linwood Avenue at 517 a.m.
01:10:21.000 According to police, two officers serving a new extreme risk protective order, a Maryland protective order to remove guns from a household, shot and killed the man listed on the order.
01:10:31.000 The man was identified as Gary J. Willis.
01:10:33.000 Officials said Willis answered the door while holding a handgun, which is legally allowed to do.
01:10:37.000 Willis then placed the gun next to the door.
01:10:39.000 When officers began to serve him the order, Willis became irate and grabbed his gun.
01:10:43.000 One of the officers tried to take the gun from Willis, but instead, Willis fired the gun.
01:10:47.000 The second officer fired the gun, striking Willis.
01:10:49.000 He died at the scene.
01:10:50.000 So why were they trying to, by what due process standard were they seizing his weapons?
01:10:56.000 Was he given notice?
01:10:57.000 No.
01:10:58.000 Was he allowed to then challenge in court the seizure of his weapons?
01:11:01.000 That is not due process.
01:11:03.000 They showed up to a guy's house claiming, we get your guns.
01:11:06.000 And he's like, what?
01:11:07.000 And this is what you get.
01:11:09.000 I don't know how a person should act and what, but I'll tell you this.
01:11:12.000 This is what happens when people coming to your house say they're seizing your weapons and you don't know what's going on because you are not served in advance.
01:11:20.000 This also happened with Duncan Lemp in Maryland as well.
01:11:24.000 I don't know.
01:11:25.000 You guys probably know more about that story than a lot of other people.
01:11:28.000 My understanding is that, I don't know if it was this story, it may have been this one, that like a sister-in-law falsely accused him of mental defect, so that the police would come and seize his weapons.
01:11:39.000 This is one of them where I've heard a lot about the story, but unfortunately from a position of where I'm at, I can't verify any of it.
01:11:46.000 It's all for me at this point here, Shay.
01:11:48.000 From from for where I'm at not I don't from what I'm looking at I can say I can tell you ethically what the problems Are you would not make a good CNN reporter?
01:11:58.000 No Based on those actions.
01:12:00.000 I mean my application I guess is still on their desk, but If you want to be like CNN just make it up I'm sorry, if you want to be like CNN, you've got to crank it on a Zoom meeting with a bunch of your co-workers.
01:12:11.000 Because they kept that guy on staff.
01:12:13.000 Him saying that Kyle Rittenhouse is an idiot.
01:12:17.000 CNN also just reported that the judge made inappropriate Asian food jokes.
01:12:23.000 So the judge in the Rittenhouse case said, I hope our Asian food isn't done in Long Beach Port.
01:12:28.000 He was making a joke about food coming from Asia, not about something being wrong with Asian food.
01:12:34.000 But a Columbia professor just came out and said that it was racist stereotypes.
01:12:38.000 Of course.
01:12:38.000 Right?
01:12:39.000 Because he was joking about the supply chains?
01:12:42.000 That professor, what are they a professor of?
01:12:45.000 If it's anything important, she should be fired.
01:12:46.000 Sociology, probably.
01:12:47.000 Probably should be fired.
01:12:49.000 I mean... Feminist dance?
01:12:50.000 Yeah, feminist dance theory.
01:12:53.000 Art of dance, yeah.
01:12:56.000 What is it?
01:12:57.000 Anti-cis, heteronormative, patriarchal dance theory.
01:13:00.000 Asian American Studies.
01:13:02.000 Of course.
01:13:03.000 I use big words.
01:13:04.000 I don't use big words like that.
01:13:07.000 Is the professor Asian?
01:13:08.000 I'm trying to find out her name.
01:13:10.000 It's cultural appropriation, if not.
01:13:12.000 I'm gonna mispronounce it, and then people are gonna attack me.
01:13:14.000 I don't want that.
01:13:16.000 Well, here's how it works.
01:13:17.000 If the professor is more Asian than I am, I can't comment.
01:13:20.000 But if it turns out I'm more Asian than her, because I'm only a part of the party.
01:13:23.000 Then you're allowed.
01:13:24.000 Then I'm allowed to drop.
01:13:25.000 I don't know.
01:13:25.000 You guys could be related.
01:13:27.000 No, she's more Asian.
01:13:29.000 Tim, are we doing it by blood quantum, or are we doing it by heritage?
01:13:34.000 That's right.
01:13:35.000 We need a 23 and me immediately.
01:13:36.000 I'm pretty sure.
01:13:37.000 I think it's college humor.
01:13:38.000 They did a really funny bit where there's a panel of a full Asian, a half Asian and a quarter Asian.
01:13:44.000 And then people of varying Asian like mixed race are asking if they're allowed to engage in certain behaviors.
01:13:51.000 Oh my god.
01:13:52.000 It was actually really, really funny.
01:13:54.000 It was a really good bit.
01:13:55.000 And I think we need more stuff like this because we're allowed to make jokes about race.
01:14:00.000 It's not racist for CollegeHumor to have Asian people talking about what is offensive or not and joking about it.
01:14:06.000 And a guy walks in and he's like, I'm 1 16th Asian and I'm a big fan of anime.
01:14:10.000 And they're like, no!
01:14:12.000 Get out!
01:14:13.000 But then it ends with a panel of black people The same way, full black, half black, quarter black.
01:14:19.000 And a guy walks in and he goes, I'm pretty sure my great-great-grandfather was black and black.
01:14:23.000 You're good.
01:14:24.000 All good.
01:14:25.000 All good.
01:14:26.000 But I think it's cool that, you know, they did a bit where they're making a point about the weird behaviors when it comes to offense culture and like race and all that stuff.
01:14:33.000 Like, that's why I'm making this joke.
01:14:35.000 Like, it literally works that way for the woke people.
01:14:38.000 Sure.
01:14:39.000 If a white person makes a comment about Asian people, I can say, well, listen here, I'm Asian, therefore.
01:14:43.000 But if someone who's more Asian than me says it, they're like, well, you're You're too white, so... You know, if they put all that effort into going into mathematics to even determine the, like, what is the possible measurement, maybe we could have a colony on the moon.
01:14:53.000 Specifically for them.
01:14:55.000 On the dark side, where it gets really cold and nothing else.
01:14:58.000 That's one of the things I really like about the gun community in particular is that it, you know, whatever the left portrays about it, it's one of the more diverse places that I've actually been in in the last, you know, 10 or 15 years.
01:15:12.000 And usually the stories I hear from people who aren't from the US are the most powerful.
01:15:18.000 So like three quick examples, a good friend of mine, Ming, his family, his family's from China.
01:15:24.000 Uh, he, uh, they came over here.
01:15:26.000 He works in the firearms industry.
01:15:28.000 One of the best competitive shooters that I personally know.
01:15:32.000 And he talks all the time about how, yeah, you know, like I literally couldn't do what I do here in China.
01:15:39.000 Like we, this right does not exist.
01:15:42.000 A couple of people I met down in Miami, they've got a podcast called Locked and Loaded Latinos.
01:15:49.000 Rolo and his wife, I want to say either he is from Cuba or she is from Cuba.
01:15:54.000 Their parents were.
01:15:56.000 Same thing.
01:15:57.000 We came here, we're so happy to have this right.
01:16:00.000 We truly understand it and we're willing to fight for it to the death.
01:16:04.000 I trained with a UK Special Forces operator the last couple of weekends, and he left his family, he left his career in the UK Special Forces to move to this country.
01:16:16.000 And he said, you know, in the UK, you can't even walk around with a pocketknife.
01:16:21.000 Like, you can be arrested for spitting on the sidewalk.
01:16:23.000 You can be arrested for carrying a screwdriver.
01:16:26.000 Like, this is crazy.
01:16:27.000 And we ripped on him the whole weekend.
01:16:29.000 It's like, yeah, bro, we beat your ass back in 1776.
01:16:33.000 We're happy to have you back.
01:16:34.000 And he's like, I'm happy to be back.
01:16:36.000 It was great.
01:16:37.000 Yeah.
01:16:37.000 It's crazy.
01:16:37.000 there was a i think he was a cop construction worker and get tools and one of the tools and knife
01:16:43.000 criminally charged a and he was like
01:16:45.000 he like i explain it also like i'm i'm working it's it's my tool bag and
01:16:48.000 they're like doesn't matter doesn't matter losses you got a license for that knife and he was like
01:16:53.000 license construction worker on that's one of the main arrests for people in times square
01:16:58.000 because a lot of people go there as tourists
01:17:00.000 A lot of people have pocket knives, don't even know it, from middle America.
01:17:02.000 They use it for tools.
01:17:03.000 They use it for construction.
01:17:05.000 Times Square, that's the number one arrest that happens in that region is, you know, people with class whatever weapons on them.
01:17:12.000 And it's random people not knowing that they're violating their law.
01:17:15.000 I mean, I carry a pocket knife.
01:17:16.000 I don't have one today because I was on an airplane, but I mean, I have one in my pocket literally everywhere I go.
01:17:22.000 And the funny thing is every time I fly with firearms, Delta puts a zip tie around my locked firearms case for whatever reason and that's the most annoying thing is I get to the hotel and it's like I got to cut the zip tie off here but my knife is in the pelican case because I can't carry it on the plane.
01:17:37.000 I'm like the last guy that you ever need to worry about but it's so stupid.
01:17:42.000 You can't carry nail clippers into the airport.
01:17:44.000 Nail clippers, but you can carry a Set of knitting needles that are this instant that you could like literally stab through somebody's chest if you wanted You can carry a green, you know metal straw you can carry a metal straw for your yeah, I Save the world.
01:18:04.000 There was a guy who did a mini-doc over at Vice.
01:18:12.000 He did a project, I forgot what he called it, but he went into the airport to see what was inside the airport that could be weaponized.
01:18:19.000 Oh yeah.
01:18:19.000 Oh yeah.
01:18:20.000 I did a class with Ed Calderon.
01:18:21.000 He's done the exact same thing with TSA.
01:18:22.000 it but he was able to basically go above and beyond in terms of...
01:18:27.000 I did a class with Ed Calderon he did the he's done the exact same thing with
01:18:31.000 TSA what you can purchase past the TSA check. Let me just tell you they sell
01:18:35.000 lithium inside of airports. Sure.
01:18:39.000 Lithium is an alkaline metal, I believe, right?
01:18:42.000 It's alkaline.
01:18:43.000 When water touches it, there's an exothermic reaction, which is... I'm not going to go into great detail about what he did.
01:18:49.000 You can actually watch the videos on YouTube, but when you have lithium in water, which is easily available in airports, dangerous things can happen.
01:18:57.000 Basically, he did this project to explain that a lot of what they're saying you can't have in airports, you can buy worse things inside of them.
01:19:06.000 And that's what people need to be aware about if they want to take the security stuff seriously.
01:19:09.000 Well, it's not serious.
01:19:10.000 I mean, it's just, it's theater.
01:19:12.000 What they let through and what they don't.
01:19:14.000 I think they banned liquid so they can sell more soda.
01:19:16.000 Sure.
01:19:16.000 Probably.
01:19:17.000 I'm being somewhat facetious, but like, that's the end result.
01:19:20.000 You get there and you go, I got to throw my water away.
01:19:22.000 You walk 10 feet and you buy a new water.
01:19:24.000 For $5.
01:19:24.000 Yeah, right.
01:19:25.000 Lithium is an alkali metal, not to be confused with alkaline earth metals.
01:19:30.000 I stand corrected.
01:19:31.000 I knew I was getting that wrong.
01:19:32.000 Interesting stuff.
01:19:33.000 Close enough.
01:19:33.000 Yeah, but it's like sodium.
01:19:34.000 You splash water on it, and then I think what it does is it instantly bonds with hydrogen, at which heat and all that stuff.
01:19:41.000 Sodium potassium.
01:19:42.000 Didn't like every high school kid do that in their, I mean, that's what our chemistry teacher did.
01:19:46.000 That was first day, you know, put a piece of sodium in the fish tank and blow it up.
01:19:49.000 Yep, yep, yep.
01:19:51.000 It's fun science fair stuff.
01:19:53.000 But, you know, all the security stuff, it's theater.
01:19:56.000 And I take a look at a lot of these, you know, like the red flag stuff in a lot of these cities and everything, and it's all theater as well.
01:20:02.000 Democrats come out and say guns are scary.
01:20:04.000 That's why they specifically say an assault weapon and then they show you like a Ruger 1022 with like a pistol grip and they make it make everyone think it's different from like You know rifle grip or whatever and that's an exact gun I mean That's a very important point too because you're coming from I when the first time you brought me on the show I gave the story of the kids in college where the the summary of their knowledge and experience on firearms firearms ownership buying a gun anything like that was a 7-minute box video that was factually false and also in front inferred false things it was They watched seven minutes of lies and then suddenly thought that they had they deserved to have an opinion on guns, right?
01:20:38.000 Right.
01:20:38.000 Okay, so that's where we have a cultural problem because we were talking just a minute ago about how the Second Amendment is actually winning the culture war some ways through objective means like more states are becoming constitutional carry or Firearm sale is going up.
01:20:54.000 These are good things but then there are other things that are quite that some people would say questionable like well more Ideologically led people, the far left, are into guns now because they want to have their communist revolution.
01:21:10.000 Maybe you could say something like insurgency.
01:21:13.000 It's dangerous.
01:21:14.000 But at the end of the day, too, what we have to do is we have to start coming back down to relying on what winning looks like.
01:21:21.000 This is the problem.
01:21:23.000 By the way, you know, look for an article on this in the upcoming edition of Concealment.
01:21:27.000 But we're starting to... I think a good sign in our world right now, in the United States, is that we're reconsidering with Kyle Rittenhouse what winning looks like.
01:21:37.000 Because if you had asked 10 years ago, an intellectual would have said, you defended your life and you didn't go to prison and you didn't get broke.
01:21:45.000 That's not good enough for me.
01:21:47.000 That's not good enough.
01:21:48.000 In other words, what I think is right is that when you get attacked, defend yourself, you're recognized as doing the right thing.
01:21:59.000 Well, I mean, I was reading, there was an article that said 99 out of 100 prosecutors wouldn't bring charges against Rittenhouse.
01:22:06.000 Yeah, so the correct outcome is that if Kyle Rittenhouse gets acquitted, Binger gets debarred.
01:22:12.000 He gets disbarred and banned from practicing law.
01:22:15.000 Because what he has shown is that not only does he not either a doesn't know the law that he's supposed to be practicing or b He's got malicious intent.
01:22:24.000 Doesn't care. Yeah, and so when you can wanna because in that's and this goes back to the argument of bad actors
01:22:29.000 because the gun Control the gun rights people keep taught we keep talking
01:22:33.000 about. Oh, how little do they know?
01:22:34.000 How little did Alec Baldwin know how little do these people know?
01:22:37.000 I understand that there is a vast majority of people out there who have no idea what they're talking about in
01:22:42.000 firearms I know it it doesn't make it
01:22:46.000 What it doesn't do is it doesn't turn it into this, like, well, I'm the technocracy.
01:22:50.000 I get to tell you what to do with guns now.
01:22:52.000 However, it should be considered culturally unacceptable to receive that kind of information from an activist who knows nothing that they're talking about.
01:23:01.000 Right.
01:23:01.000 I want to stress this point, too.
01:23:03.000 We need to have some optimism.
01:23:04.000 And I think we're explaining it right here.
01:23:06.000 When you look at that map of constitutional carry across the country, expanding, not just constitutional carry, the shall issue states, because in the 80s, it's mostly may issue.
01:23:16.000 And over the past couple of decades, gun rights has been winning.
01:23:20.000 Why?
01:23:21.000 State level elections.
01:23:23.000 People, you gotta get your state-level reps, your state senators, all that stuff.
01:23:28.000 Because then, in your state, look at how many, like, the constitutional carry just happens in Texas.
01:23:33.000 And the joke was always Texas was gun country, but they actually, it's fairly Australian.
01:23:36.000 They're actually kind of behind a lot of other states.
01:23:39.000 Texas, you need to take a training course to get a handgun, you gotta get a license and everything.
01:23:43.000 And people, the joke on Family Guy was that when you buy whiskey, you get a free gun, and he hands it to Brian.
01:23:47.000 Like, no, no, no, that actually is just not, Texas is actually a bit more strict, until now, at the state level, where they passed constitutional carry.
01:23:55.000 Do you wanna know who was a group that actually tried to oppose constitutional carry?
01:24:01.000 And this is where, like, I'm a big advocate of You know the gun community like what is a community and we can talk about that but a group that came out against constitutional carry were firearms instructors in Texas.
01:24:17.000 Why?
01:24:17.000 Because they knew that if people weren't going to be forced to pay money to take their classes anymore they weren't going to be able to sell their classes and I say well that says more about your terrible instruction That nobody would take it unless forced, then it does that you think it should be required.
01:24:35.000 And so there is some policing that we have to do within our own community, our own again community like what is that a community is a people with a shared sense of purpose or ideals.
01:24:44.000 And so we have to look at that and say, you know, you guys are not on the same page as we are.
01:24:50.000 And if you really aren't supporting gun rights, then you're not part of the community just because you own a gun and because you're an NRA trained firearms instructor doesn't mean that you get the bigger picture.
01:25:02.000 And we have to be willing to call them out.
01:25:04.000 And they did.
01:25:05.000 I mean, those guys were lambasted on Twitter.
01:25:08.000 I posted a whole list of all the names of all these guys that came out against it.
01:25:12.000 And I hope that they never teach another class again.
01:25:14.000 I did two different firearms training courses for fun.
01:25:18.000 I didn't get a certificate or anything.
01:25:20.000 I wasn't doing it for concealed carry.
01:25:22.000 I did it because I had a guy say, hey, we're doing a police firearms training.
01:25:26.000 We're going to step through all these different calibers of handguns.
01:25:28.000 You want to come?
01:25:28.000 And I was like, that sounds awesome.
01:25:29.000 Yeah.
01:25:30.000 And then they basically, it's like, here's the guns.
01:25:32.000 Here's this caliber, this caliber.
01:25:33.000 I think it was like a, like a 22 and like a nine millimeter went up to like, I think like a 45 or something.
01:25:38.000 And they explained what to expect, what the gun is called.
01:25:41.000 And then you get to shoot and hit the targets.
01:25:44.000 You've got instructors around you.
01:25:45.000 I watched a guy pull out.
01:25:47.000 I think he was, he had an AR-15, 5.56 or whatever.
01:25:49.000 And he's shooting.
01:25:50.000 It's really loud.
01:25:51.000 And we're like, we're, we're up very close to the targets.
01:25:54.000 Cause we're in like a training facility.
01:25:56.000 And then he pulls out a shotgun and it was just fun.
01:25:59.000 It was fun to do.
01:26:00.000 You want to get better at your craft.
01:26:01.000 I mean, you know, I shoot a lot.
01:26:04.000 I shoot pretty much every weekend.
01:26:05.000 I probably shoot 50 to 60,000 rounds a year.
01:26:09.000 I take all, I've been training with Haley Strategic for the last three, four weeks, almost every other weekend.
01:26:16.000 I do a lot of competitive shooting and a lot of tactical training as well.
01:26:20.000 Because, you know, I take it seriously.
01:26:25.000 God forbid I ever have to use that thing.
01:26:28.000 I want to make sure that I am in the best possible.
01:26:30.000 I want to be competent enough to know that I can make the decision when I want to.
01:26:34.000 And you won't hurt anyone else.
01:26:35.000 Right.
01:26:35.000 in the process. And I want to stress something too. That's the most important aspect of it. I want to stress a very
01:26:39.000 important point as to why so many people who have never owned a firearm, you want to go get training.
01:26:45.000 Because I went to a range with a friend, and you want to know what they did right when they grabbed the gun for the
01:26:49.000 first time? Pointed it right at you. No, no, no, no, they went like that.
01:26:52.000 Oh.
01:26:52.000 For those that are listening, you've got right hand holding the gun, they put their left
01:26:58.000 hand over their right.
01:27:00.000 What's going to happen?
01:27:01.000 The slide's going to go back and it's going to slice through your hand or worse break
01:27:05.000 bones.
01:27:06.000 At least just jam the firearm at best.
01:27:09.000 I've seen nasty videos.
01:27:11.000 So what happens is we're at a range and fortunately me and a few other people knew enough, but we're not experts.
01:27:19.000 So when this person made the mistake of putting their left hand over the slide, we went, no, no, no, no, no, stop, stop, stop, stop.
01:27:25.000 And they're like, why?
01:27:25.000 And they were like, you have to hold it this way.
01:27:28.000 And then, you know, I'm not going to be an expert, but they were fine.
01:27:31.000 It's a self-correcting problem.
01:27:32.000 It's unfortunate.
01:27:33.000 Yeah, unfortunately.
01:27:34.000 I'm not saying it's a gentle one.
01:27:36.000 That's the dark humor that we run into.
01:27:39.000 If you've never driven a car before, you don't just go and sit in a car and go drive it.
01:27:43.000 Granted, the difference between a car and a gun is that a gun is a right and a car is a privilege.
01:27:47.000 That being said, a reasonable person says... It's a dangerous object.
01:27:50.000 It's the way it is.
01:27:52.000 If you're responsible, what comes out of that weapon... We were talking about this earlier, about having a range in West Virginia, and the laws are fairly lax.
01:28:00.000 And I was like, I'm pretty sure the law is basically like, you're allowed to shoot on your property
01:28:04.000 and if you hit someone, you go to jail.
01:28:05.000 You know, so like understand the responsibilities that you have.
01:28:09.000 So up on the, there's a mountain nearby, a small community, people shoot all the time.
01:28:13.000 No one cares.
01:28:15.000 I explain to people like this, Have any of you lived in New York or you live in a big city?
01:28:22.000 I've been there.
01:28:23.000 You've been in big cities before and people drive cars, cars are dangerous, cars can kill.
01:28:28.000 But you've never expected anybody to just like ram their car into you.
01:28:32.000 Same thing as like when I'm in West Virginia and I see a guy walking around with a rifle or a handgun, I'm like, why am I worried about this guy at all?
01:28:39.000 We hear gunshots all the time out here and like a lot.
01:28:43.000 And I just sip my coffee and I'm like, The only way for this to continue to move forward is to continue to normalize gun ownership.
01:28:51.000 You know, again, 10, 15 years ago, if you were walking down the sidewalk, and you were like, man, somebody smoking weed, like, well, you know, you're like waiting for somebody to, you know, some crackhead to like pop out of the corner or something.
01:29:04.000 Now it's just like, Oh, man, you know, somebody smoking weed, like it's no big deal.
01:29:08.000 And same thing, if you walk into the store, and all of a sudden, like, man, everybody's carrying a gun.
01:29:14.000 It's just, you know, if we got 20 years ago, if you saw somebody walking down the street with a cell phone in their hand, staring down at it as they walked, you'd think like, God, that guy's a little weird.
01:29:24.000 Nowadays, it doesn't even register in your brain, because it's been normalized as a part of our human social interaction.
01:29:30.000 Real quick, I got a story that's basically that.
01:29:33.000 Up on the mountain, there's a public range where it's basically for hunting training, they call.
01:29:38.000 That's what they say for, you know, whatever reason.
01:29:40.000 I think they have to.
01:29:41.000 But there's like, it's just a space on the mountain where you can shoot.
01:29:44.000 And I'm walking through the woods.
01:29:46.000 I hear the gunshots.
01:29:48.000 And I'm like, huh, I walk towards them and then eventually I see the range and I see two guys and he's zeroing in, uh, you know, mini 14 or something and I walk over.
01:29:56.000 I'm like, Hey, what's going on?
01:29:57.000 I was like, I heard, I heard the shots and I came over to see what was happening.
01:30:00.000 And then they explained what he was doing.
01:30:01.000 So it's like, you hear, you hear it happening in your area and you walk over and you're like, Oh, cool.
01:30:06.000 I wasn't like, oh, oh, I better hit the deck!
01:30:09.000 Pre-conditioned.
01:30:10.000 Right.
01:30:10.000 Look, if, if, uh, but you got to understand the area you're in.
01:30:14.000 During hunting season, they're like, yeah, don't walk towards the sound.
01:30:18.000 Don't, don't go through the forest.
01:30:20.000 Right.
01:30:20.000 But it wasn't hunting season, which means I knew people were at the range and I'm like, oh, I'm going to go walk towards the range and see what's up.
01:30:26.000 There's a couple of really good lessons we can take from even how this conversation has paid off.
01:30:30.000 And one of them is that when we're looking at the firearms, like firearms training as a whole, one thing that a lot of us millennials grew up with is we grew up with firearms in the home.
01:30:40.000 Our parents taught us, or it was a long-term process.
01:30:43.000 And so the first thing that we know is that learning how to be effective, well, learning how to be safe with a firearm doesn't take a lot of time.
01:30:50.000 Knowing even the modicum, more than your average leftist, does not take a modicum amount of time to be sarcastic.
01:30:58.000 But what we're recognizing, even with these training classes, right?
01:31:01.000 We're recognizing that it takes time.
01:31:04.000 It is a time investment that's difficult.
01:31:06.000 It's a learned skill.
01:31:07.000 You do not pick it up and become decent in a week.
01:31:10.000 It takes time.
01:31:12.000 Practice.
01:31:14.000 I spent time in the Army Rangers.
01:31:16.000 After that, I learned a lot there.
01:31:19.000 After that, I learned more.
01:31:21.000 And after that, it keeps going, right?
01:31:22.000 And we know the whole perpetual student thing.
01:31:24.000 It sounds nice.
01:31:25.000 I agree with it.
01:31:26.000 It's good.
01:31:26.000 But I don't need to make a point on that one.
01:31:28.000 What we have a lesson to learn is that one of the things that the past generation brought into the gun industry, which they should not have, is infinite, endless suspicion.
01:31:41.000 If I go to a range, I've got some tattoos.
01:31:45.000 I'm not as tattooed as other people are.
01:31:47.000 I think I'm getting that solved soon.
01:31:49.000 Just kidding.
01:31:50.000 But there are ranges in my home state that you can show up to.
01:31:55.000 Outdoor ranges where there's nobody there.
01:31:57.000 If you show up with a plate carrier, an AR-15, and targets that you set up and you start moving and shooting, an old man will come out and yell at you for one of those, I don't see why you need one of those for hunting people.
01:32:08.000 And the problem with the response is nine times out of, well, I'm sorry, every single time in probably since I've been alive, I can out shoot this person.
01:32:17.000 Yep.
01:32:18.000 He's carrying it.
01:32:18.000 He's probably, you know, like, and so we can argue against this cultural difference.
01:32:22.000 And there's this thing, the joke, the FUDs, it's a gun culture.
01:32:24.000 Elmer FUD.
01:32:25.000 Elmer FUD.
01:32:26.000 In gun culture, the term FUD means an outdated kind of past time guy.
01:32:32.000 You know, I'm a two world wars.
01:32:34.000 Uh, sometimes, sometimes we, you know, there's a, there's a certain friend of mine that refers to them as a non threat.
01:32:41.000 You've got a great attitude, but you're not dangerous, dude.
01:32:45.000 You're the kind of guy who you like.
01:32:47.000 And our objective is not to be predators in the sense, even though we'll use that language, our objective is not so much to be predators, but in the words of a wiser man than me, Jordan Peterson, a good man is not a harmless man, but a man who is dangerous and has it under control.
01:33:01.000 And I think that that sounds really good, and that needs to be explored a lot.
01:33:06.000 Because a free people are not a harmless people.
01:33:09.000 Because you don't own a gun, because you don't know how to shoot somebody, does not mean you're not capable of genocide.
01:33:15.000 The fact of the matter that we live in our country with people like Binger, is that there is something, whether it's the grace of God, this is the first time I've been on and we didn't get into a theological conversation, We'll see if the super chat fixes that but this is but it is by the grace of God and or something else that the petty tyrants that have Constituted this country have been held at bay and it's the actions of people like binger It is the attempt to go after somebody for at pot if if he's acquitted The attempt of people to go after Kyle for acting in self-defense the only thing that people are accusing Kyle of being is effective
01:33:52.000 That's right.
01:33:53.000 Because like in all those other instances where people were brutalized by rioters, their stories were completely ignored.
01:33:59.000 There's a meme about this where, Trump supporters post it, where it's like, didn't fight back, didn't fight back, fought back.
01:34:06.000 And it's people brutally, there was the guy in Portland who got the full punt.
01:34:10.000 He was running and then they tripped him and then ran up and then full force kicked him in the head.
01:34:15.000 There was the guy who, I think he had a sword, and they just stomped him out and he's all twisted and lying on the ground.
01:34:20.000 And those stories weren't relevant Nothing, right.
01:34:23.000 But we gotta go to Super Chats!
01:34:24.000 We gotta go to Super Chats, and I will say one thing just to start.
01:34:27.000 I tweeted this out.
01:34:29.000 All of the leftists who are now saying they realized they were wrong about Kyle Rittenhouse, and I mean this with all sincerity, should chip in to his legal defense.
01:34:35.000 Absolutely.
01:34:35.000 Yes.
01:34:37.000 Mike Lindell was the one guy that stepped up and did it, and you can say a lot of things about Mike Lindell.
01:34:44.000 I prefer a different brand pillow, that's fine.
01:34:48.000 I mean, it's not a bad—I just, you know, I have different preferences—but he stepped up right away and, you know, he was a man of his word.
01:34:55.000 Let's read some Super Chats.
01:34:56.000 We got Jeremiah Dobler.
01:34:58.000 He says, It's one blurry frame of 30 shot in that second.
01:35:02.000 If I was a juror, I would consider that this the prosecution throwing a Hail Mary to confuse the jury.
01:35:07.000 You never know how juries are going to go though.
01:35:10.000 So hopefully they realize what that is.
01:35:12.000 And I'm wondering if the defense let it slide because they were like, this will offend the jury.
01:35:17.000 Because you might have jurors being like, how dare you try and call me stupid?
01:35:22.000 Jarez might just be like, mm-mm.
01:35:24.000 But we will see, man.
01:35:25.000 We will see.
01:35:25.000 All right, let's see what we have here in the old Super Chats.
01:35:31.000 AxelThunderPaw says, Cavanaugh's trial was an attack on due process.
01:35:34.000 Rittenhouse's trial is an attack on the right of self-defense.
01:35:37.000 And they keep doing it.
01:35:37.000 Correct.
01:35:39.000 They keep doing it.
01:35:40.000 They want to take away your right of self-defense, so long as it's against their ideology.
01:35:46.000 You have, this is why, this is why we have the mistake.
01:35:48.000 We make the mistake all the time.
01:35:50.000 Are they, is it ignorance or is it malice?
01:35:53.000 Well, in the case of Alec Baldwin, it doesn't matter.
01:35:55.000 He killed somebody.
01:35:56.000 But in the case of what we're dealing with here, you can also look at it.
01:35:56.000 Right.
01:36:00.000 Their malice is what informs their ignorance.
01:36:03.000 Right.
01:36:03.000 When people want to disarm your guns, they see you as their property.
01:36:08.000 It's, it's just so, you know, one of the really annoying things to me is how, you know, even out here, people just, are ignorant and terrified of guns. Like, they look at it
01:36:19.000 like kryptonite or radioactive, you know, oh, it's like, listen, everything here is kept
01:36:24.000 safely stored properly. Don't touch it if you don't want to touch it. But the problem is
01:36:29.000 there are people who get scared and then think they have to do something with a firearm that's
01:36:33.000 stored properly because they don't like the fact that it exists in a space. It's like,
01:36:37.000 yo, that's a gun safe. You don't need to cover it or move it or hide it. You can't open it. It's
01:36:42.000 bolted there. Calm down. Yep.
01:36:45.000 That's really annoying. It also becomes a cyclical problem.
01:36:47.000 So you institute gun control in your city and what happens? Crime goes down. Oh, look, it works. More
01:36:53.000 gun control.
01:36:53.000 You institute gun control in your city. Crime goes up.
01:36:57.000 Well, obviously we didn't do enough.
01:37:00.000 And that's why it is.
01:37:01.000 It is.
01:37:01.000 It is like putting a microphone up to the speaker and cranking it up.
01:37:04.000 It's just a positive feedback loop.
01:37:06.000 I'm not going to say that it is.
01:37:08.000 I'm not going to say it is the most egregious thing, but it needs to be addressed as supporting gun control in this sort of cyclical fashion is mental.
01:37:16.000 Yeah, you gotta teach kids how to handle the weapons so that they have control of the gun.
01:37:21.000 Well, they used to do that.
01:37:22.000 That is gun control.
01:37:23.000 In the 50s and 60s, there are public schools in Detroit that had shooting ranges in the basements.
01:37:28.000 You think you can't hold someone accountable if they don't know?
01:37:31.000 That's the most foolish idea that you can have.
01:37:34.000 If they're stupid, then they can't be held accountable.
01:37:38.000 This is a lie that people will ingrain.
01:37:40.000 They will say, I will make myself weak so I don't have to deal with the responsibility of strength.
01:37:45.000 And what do they do?
01:37:47.000 Oh, I don't know genocide.
01:37:49.000 I want to I want to read a super chat But I'm going to read a YouTube rule first just so that we're all clear.
01:37:54.000 This is important YouTube says that if you're posting content Don't post content that sells firearms or certain firearm accessories through direct sales or post links to sites that sell these items which include accessories that enable a firearm to simulate automatic fire and Accessories that convert a firearm to automatic fire, high-capacity magazines or belts carrying more than 30 rounds, and don't provide instructions on manufacturing firearms, ammo, high-capacity magazines, homemade silencers, accessories that enable a firearm to simulate automated fire, accessories that convert a firearm to automatic fire, don't provide instructions on how to convert them, don't provide instructions on how to install the above-mentioned accessory modifications.
01:38:32.000 That's gonna be a great question.
01:38:33.000 No, no, no, it's because of you.
01:38:36.000 I want to make sure that we state the rule very clearly because I believe it states we're allowed to mention Phoenix ammunition.
01:38:43.000 Jeff says, I have shot a few thousand rounds of Phoenix ammo.
01:38:45.000 Not a single misfire yet.
01:38:47.000 Good job.
01:38:48.000 Free Kyle.
01:38:49.000 James O'Keefe isn't here.
01:38:50.000 Let's go Brandon.
01:38:50.000 The reason I read the rules, I want to make sure it's very, very clear.
01:38:53.000 I think we all read it and it says nothing about websites that sell ammunition.
01:38:56.000 Sure.
01:38:57.000 said someone complimented your ammunition so I just wanted to make sure that was clear.
01:38:57.000 Thank you, sir.
01:39:01.000 So that, I don't know, someone at YouTube might be like, don't care!
01:39:05.000 Hit the X button or whatever.
01:39:06.000 But you know.
01:39:07.000 I actually, I'm pretty sure those rules just said don't break the law because they made
01:39:11.000 bump stocks illegal anyway, right?
01:39:14.000 There are other such devices available.
01:39:17.000 And we won't explain those.
01:39:18.000 I would love to.
01:39:20.000 That's going to be a great, theoretically could be a great lawsuit coming up.
01:39:28.000 They actually, interestingly, they have a special livestream rule where you can't do any kind of video at all live with firearms.
01:39:36.000 Yeah.
01:39:37.000 I think that has more to do with the potential for an accident in which YouTube panics.
01:39:40.000 I think they don't want somebody dying live on TV.
01:39:42.000 Right, right, exactly, exactly.
01:39:43.000 So they're just like, we'll just not allow any of it.
01:39:46.000 But their rule is that you can brandish and bear arms in the appropriate location.
01:39:51.000 So if you're in a gun store, you can actually pick up a weapon, film it.
01:39:54.000 If you're in a range, you can do it.
01:39:55.000 But like, what they don't want is people playing with weapons in their bedrooms.
01:39:58.000 I actually... Sounds like we need to repurpose the studio here into a gun range.
01:40:05.000 Um, I don't think that's a bad rule for YouTube.
01:40:07.000 You don't want kids acting stupid and, you know, you've seen those videos where people will, like, point the weapon at the camera and do really dumb stuff, so not allowing kids to do things like that, I'm... I shouldn't say kids, anyone.
01:40:17.000 You mean all the rap videos on YouTube?
01:40:19.000 Yeah.
01:40:20.000 Well, to be fair, hold on.
01:40:22.000 This is America, with Donald Glover.
01:40:25.000 He legit picks up a weapon and fires at people.
01:40:27.000 And they're like, that's okay.
01:40:29.000 You know what, man?
01:40:30.000 See, I was going to go to the music video question right away.
01:40:33.000 Because I mean, it's accepted in music videos.
01:40:35.000 The problem is that they're not going to be able to stray between art and reality.
01:40:41.000 I mean, imagine being a camera guy for that thing.
01:40:43.000 I mean, I would poop my pants like, stop pointing the guns at me!
01:40:47.000 Well, I mean, they have robotics.
01:40:49.000 I highly doubt they're using robotic cameras.
01:40:51.000 Well, maybe not those people.
01:40:52.000 I've seen the production quality.
01:40:54.000 They do not have robotic cameras.
01:40:56.000 I gotta read this.
01:40:56.000 Well, actually, here's another one.
01:40:58.000 Dragon Lady says, that artwork of Tim's is better than what Hunter Biden is selling for half a mil.
01:40:58.000 I gotta read this.
01:41:03.000 Ladies and gentlemen, what you have right here.
01:41:06.000 Listen, listen.
01:41:06.000 Kyle Rittenhouse.
01:41:07.000 This is a single piece of paper.
01:41:09.000 It is a picture that depicts Kyle Rittenhouse, right there, pointing.
01:41:12.000 That is not a boomerang.
01:41:13.000 That is a handgun.
01:41:14.000 at two individuals and it is a picture you can see and on the other side there is a time stamp note from one of our episodes where we produce a segment but you can see here this is an angry ADA binger pointing a gun at Kyle Reynolds now this this double-sided picture Will be available both as an NFT and an auction starting at $500,000.
01:41:37.000 Now, when you tell someone that Tim Pool has a picture of Kyle Rittenhouse pointing a weapon at somebody, maybe they'll spend $500,000 on this crudely drawn stick figure that I've made on a piece of notebook paper.
01:41:49.000 And I will confirm that your drawing is a type of picture.
01:41:54.000 I really, really want to clarify for the sake of people who aren't seeing the video.
01:41:58.000 It is a torn piece of notebook paper with stick figures on it.
01:42:01.000 It is not a photograph or anything like that.
01:42:03.000 Literally nothing.
01:42:04.000 I'll put it up on the website for an auction.
01:42:07.000 It is from a legal pad.
01:42:08.000 It is from a legal pad.
01:42:09.000 It's the original.
01:42:12.000 Alright, this one's good.
01:42:13.000 And Alex Elkin says Baldwin, married man, accidentally kills woman who he is just friends
01:42:18.000 with and goes to dinner with occasionally.
01:42:20.000 I've seen enough true crime episodes.
01:42:22.000 I gotta be honest.
01:42:23.000 Sounds like a Kennedy.
01:42:25.000 What I've been saying since the past week or so, the Alec Baldwin story, the first news we got was that it was a blank, it misfired, shrapnel hit the woman, and now we know the actual story is Alec Baldwin drew a single action revolver, pulled the hammer, pointed it at the camera where the woman was working, pulled the trigger, hitting her in the chest and killing her.
01:42:47.000 So, when you start from that point, you have to start asking questions about potential motive.
01:42:52.000 You don't just go, it's an accident, case dismissed.
01:42:55.000 No.
01:42:56.000 I mean, we all know it won't go anywhere.
01:43:00.000 He is an actor.
01:43:01.000 Maybe he's acting the part of being an accident.
01:43:05.000 I think so.
01:43:05.000 That's what I came up with.
01:43:07.000 I think that right now, with all the data in front of us, there was another witness who came out and said the scene did not call for him to fire the gun.
01:43:15.000 That means to pull the hammer back and pull the trigger in a scene that didn't call for it according to a witness, we have to start not with an assumption of an accident.
01:43:23.000 That makes no sense.
01:43:24.000 Right.
01:43:25.000 None whatsoever.
01:43:25.000 Gross negligence.
01:43:26.000 Gross negligence makes no sense either.
01:43:28.000 If we're approaching this objectively with the information presented before us, we have a homicide.
01:43:33.000 And we approach it from the position of, Alec Baldwin pulled a gun and shot a woman.
01:43:37.000 Did he have motive?
01:43:38.000 How did the, where did he get the gun?
01:43:39.000 What happened?
01:43:40.000 And then, if we go through the information and it's determined the gun was accidentally loaded and not checked, then we can get to that conclusion.
01:43:47.000 But for the time being, you gotta make a lot of assumptions to believe it was an accident.
01:43:51.000 The armorer screwed up, the assistant director screwed up, and Alec Baldwin, with four decades of firearms training, just overlooked all of his training in a scene that didn't call for shooting someone and shot someone.
01:44:00.000 I know I keep, we say it too much, we bring it up, like, we brought it up like five times in the past, you know, few episodes.
01:44:05.000 So let's read more Super Chats.
01:44:08.000 Cleggy says, actually, no, no, no, we'll read that one next.
01:44:11.000 Alan says, as a cop, this trial scares me more than anything.
01:44:15.000 I think when you see cops go on the stand and side against the kid that they were cheering for, when Kyle Raneis showed up, the police thanked him.
01:44:23.000 Yeah.
01:44:23.000 Now those same police are trying to put him in prison forever.
01:44:25.000 So, yeah.
01:44:27.000 Cleggy says Starbucks recently sent a memo to their employees stating they fully intend to comply with Biden's OSHA mandate effective on January 4th.
01:44:35.000 And on a related note, you guys taking applications?
01:44:38.000 Jobs at TimCast.com.
01:44:39.000 But I'll be honest, there's like 20,000 emails in there.
01:44:42.000 Yeah, I mean, I posted the day that they said that they were going to try to enforce that on small businesses.
01:44:48.000 I said, if you guys want this place to look like Ruby Ridge, go right ahead.
01:44:52.000 But there's no way I mean, I know that maybe three of my guys have been vaccinated.
01:44:57.000 I am not.
01:44:58.000 And I don't, I don't care one way or the other, but there's just no way that you can force a small business.
01:45:04.000 And I'll just say this.
01:45:05.000 It's unconstitutional.
01:45:07.000 It will be found unconstitutional.
01:45:08.000 And the reason it keeps getting pushed back is because they know they can't actually enforce it.
01:45:12.000 So I don't, I think for the most part, they're just trying to trick people.
01:45:16.000 They're trying to trick you into being businesses to be like, I guess you have to do it, but eventually this won't end up happening.
01:45:21.000 We'll see though.
01:45:21.000 We'll see though.
01:45:22.000 I don't trust the government.
01:45:23.000 So.
01:45:23.000 Let's read some more.
01:45:26.000 Nick Neal says, the only argument offered by the prosecution is to tell the judge not to believe his eyes and disregard the evidence.
01:45:32.000 Agenda over law.
01:45:34.000 Yep.
01:45:35.000 William Knoll says, the Zeminskys are not even in the altered picture, so even if Kyle was aiming his rifle, who knows who or what he would be aiming at?
01:45:41.000 And the prosecution said this!
01:45:43.000 He was like, who's he pointing the gun at?
01:45:44.000 And he goes, Zeminsky.
01:45:45.000 And where is he?
01:45:46.000 Well, he's not in the picture.
01:45:47.000 They literally said that.
01:45:49.000 Maybe the defense is like, the jury will be offended by that attempt.
01:45:53.000 And they might, because they're offended, just be like, get out of here!
01:45:57.000 See through it so blindly.
01:46:00.000 Alright.
01:46:02.000 Itachi revived.
01:46:02.000 What is it?
01:46:04.000 Oh, interesting.
01:46:04.000 It says, prosecution goes first.
01:46:07.000 Two and a half hours each argument.
01:46:07.000 Burden of proof.
01:46:09.000 Don't make me waste five bucks again, Tim.
01:46:11.000 Thank you for your five dollars.
01:46:12.000 It's Canadian five dollars though, so let's be real.
01:46:14.000 Yeah, it's like $3.50 maybe?
01:46:18.000 All right.
01:46:19.000 LockedAndLoadedLatino says, Justin's great at Maj Touré's Solutionary Summit.
01:46:23.000 My wife and I interviewed him, Eric July, Kim Klesik, Olivia Rondau, and Larry Sharp for our channel.
01:46:28.000 Felt like a TimCast IRL alumni series.
01:46:31.000 You, Lids, Ian, and Luke are always welcome.
01:46:32.000 On.
01:46:33.000 Yeah.
01:46:34.000 Right on.
01:46:35.000 They're a great couple.
01:46:36.000 There was just an unbelievable amount of people.
01:46:39.000 It was kind of funny talking to Eric July.
01:46:41.000 I was like, man, I listen to your stuff all the time.
01:46:43.000 I know literally nothing about comic books, so I skip all of those and I just go right to the political ones.
01:46:48.000 This is an important one.
01:46:49.000 Andrew Goodman says, Are you guys aware of the Steve Bannon indictment?
01:46:52.000 Yes!
01:46:54.000 Here's the thing with the Bannon indictment.
01:46:56.000 You know, we actually considered talking about it.
01:46:58.000 We have the story.
01:46:59.000 We have Mark Meadows as well.
01:47:01.000 But it's actually not that big of a political scandal for the most part.
01:47:04.000 It definitely is.
01:47:04.000 It is.
01:47:05.000 And it's an abuse of power.
01:47:06.000 But the story is very simple.
01:47:08.000 Steve Bannon said, I'm not going to comply with the subpoena, and so they're indicting him over it.
01:47:12.000 And for now, that's it.
01:47:14.000 We'll see what actually happens with it.
01:47:16.000 We'll see what he does.
01:47:17.000 We'll see what happens with Mark Meadows.
01:47:18.000 For the time being, we expected this.
01:47:22.000 It happened.
01:47:23.000 That's the big takeaway from it.
01:47:25.000 It's an abuse of power.
01:47:27.000 We'll probably end up talking about it in the next week or so as we get more details on what's happening.
01:47:33.000 Charles Baliozian.
01:47:35.000 It's a shame Rittenhouse will be railroaded by the jury.
01:47:38.000 Seeing the panel of lawyers beg the defense to object to anything makes me feel like Kyle's representation lacks ability to stand in spotlight.
01:47:45.000 Don't blame Barnes for leaving team.
01:47:49.000 I think the defense did a fairly good job, but fairly good is not great.
01:47:53.000 Yeah, and you can only do so much... For the grabby of the case, I think.
01:47:58.000 It's not to cut him off hook, but you're still playing an unfair game.
01:48:03.000 If Binger is allowed to do what he's doing, if the culture is allowed to do what they're doing, if people are allowed to... If Binger is allowed to act the way he is with impunity, no one's... I give it politically people are lambasting him.
01:48:18.000 But the fact is that he's, you said it earlier this week, which was the worst black pill morning of my week, was, uh, Binger's gonna be a judge in 10 years.
01:48:26.000 Yeah.
01:48:27.000 Right?
01:48:28.000 So like, and if you want to go back to the question of what winning looks like, it's, okay, let's, let us actually start a fund to have him fired.
01:48:34.000 Completely.
01:48:35.000 Sue him, challenge, all that stuff.
01:48:38.000 But it'll never happen.
01:48:39.000 Even if he committed a constitutional violation, they'd slap on the wrist.
01:48:43.000 I don't agree.
01:48:44.000 I don't think it can never happen.
01:48:45.000 I do not think nihilism is a good worldview.
01:48:49.000 The firearms community has given in to nihilism for so long, saying there's nothing we can do about them.
01:48:56.000 And certain measures we've seen things encroaching like the bump stock rate, the bump stocks and the braces and all this other kind of stuff.
01:49:03.000 Like, look, in our generation, our generation, we could see not we probably would not be able to see the ATF completely abolished.
01:49:11.000 But we could see in our generation, we could very well see large elements of the NFA completely removed.
01:49:17.000 I'll hear that.
01:49:18.000 I'd like to think so.
01:49:19.000 I'm not saying that it's going to happen, but it is a reality.
01:49:22.000 It's theoretical.
01:49:23.000 I'll echo your sentiment on nihilism, man.
01:49:25.000 And if you can make your enemy become nihilistic, you can smear them out.
01:49:28.000 They're done.
01:49:30.000 So do not become nihilistic.
01:49:32.000 Let me read this one.
01:49:32.000 This is good.
01:49:33.000 From kbryan4190 says, My employer, Ohio Health, just issued an email stating if we are not fully vaccinated by January 12th, we will be considered resigned from our position, not fired.
01:49:43.000 Here's what I would say.
01:49:44.000 There was a viral TikTok video where this guy said, If you are required to do something for work, they have to cover the cost of whatever that requirement may be, or compensate you.
01:49:53.000 For instance, if you're required for overtime, they have to give you time and a half, for instance, in most instances.
01:49:59.000 Or they're required to at least pay you.
01:50:02.000 A vaccine is a permanent change to your life.
01:50:05.000 So, if they issue a workplace requirement that is vaccination, that means you are required to be vaccinated 24-7.
01:50:12.000 It means outside of work, which means they gotta pay you 24-7.
01:50:15.000 I think there's actually, it's a funny argument.
01:50:19.000 They'll argue against it.
01:50:20.000 It's a permanent risk.
01:50:21.000 It's a bit of an ontological argument, yeah.
01:50:22.000 So I would actually argue this.
01:50:24.000 If your workplace instructs you that you have to be vaccinated, it's very simple.
01:50:28.000 Get a very simple contract drafted and say, thank you so much for doing the vaccine mandates.
01:50:34.000 And then say, just please sign this medical form which states, if any injury or negative or adverse event arises due to the vaccine at any point in my life due to the permanent medical procedure, company assumes all risk. In the event company dissolves,
01:50:48.000 is sold, the name changes or otherwise, the new owners or the prior members of the corporation
01:50:55.000 assume all liability for a medical procedure. And then when they refuse to sign it, you can
01:50:59.000 say, hey, hey, hey, I said I'll get vaccinated, but they are refusing. I'm not kidding about
01:51:03.000 doing that. There was a- I had a bad idea.
01:51:06.000 There was a- Originally, I believe the CDC, or OSHA actually said, employers who require medical treatments as a workplace condition assume all liability for that condition.
01:51:19.000 Make sure your employer signs off on that form.
01:51:21.000 And if they say no, say, do you think vaccines are unsafe?
01:51:25.000 And then if they refuse to sign it, call them an anti-vaxxer.
01:51:28.000 You think I'm joking?
01:51:30.000 No, it's great.
01:51:32.000 Put it right back on them.
01:51:33.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:51:34.000 Well, they have to assume the liability for forcing a medical procedure on you.
01:51:37.000 And then why wouldn't they sign it?
01:51:39.000 Then, man, if it were me... By you not signing it, you tell me that you don't believe in the science.
01:51:45.000 We don't believe Dr. Fauci.
01:51:47.000 And then, at that point, if they refuse to sign it, I would file a lawsuit and say, if they believe it's unsafe, and they're mandating employees to do it, like, that is them creating a workplace risk they must be held liable for.
01:52:00.000 OSHA should be coming after them.
01:52:02.000 Well, there's a lot of lawsuits like that currently underway, and there's a lot of people not complying with these VAX mandates, and they get to keep their jobs.
01:52:08.000 So, you know, it depends on the situation, depends on the person, but there's a lot of different interesting cases happening right now.
01:52:16.000 All right, let's read some more.
01:52:17.000 Ardwick says, the root of the problem is the judge said, this is not a political trial.
01:52:21.000 He is wrong.
01:52:22.000 To the mainstream, everything is political and they act accordingly.
01:52:25.000 We need to stop thinking like this.
01:52:27.000 And the problem is the judge with his God bless the USA.
01:52:30.000 I say this the other day, his ringtone.
01:52:33.000 That shows he will be biased in favor of the left.
01:52:37.000 The judge in this case, based on loving America, is biased in favor of the left.
01:52:42.000 That's a fact.
01:52:43.000 Because he will give them grace for their malpractice.
01:52:47.000 He literally stated, I don't believe you are acting in good faith, the prosecutor, and then said, but I'm going to allow you to admit evidence I don't understand.
01:52:56.000 I'm going to allow you to continue a trial after you've committed grave constitutional violations.
01:53:00.000 Why?
01:53:01.000 Because he believes in the regalia and decorum of the court.
01:53:06.000 Instead of saying, you have violated the Constitution, you have violated the good graces of this court, you have violated my rulings, I hereby rule a mistrial with prejudice.
01:53:16.000 Yeah.
01:53:17.000 That's what he would say if he really believed in America.
01:53:19.000 You do not come into my court and subvert our legal and judicial system which has been crafted and precedence has been set and laws have been written and you sought to destroy this?
01:53:30.000 No.
01:53:31.000 If you cannot have a fair trial for Kyle Rittenhouse, there will not be one.
01:53:34.000 He is free to go.
01:53:35.000 Yep, because this is not an issue of Neoplatonism, where if they knew the right things, they would do the right things.
01:53:40.000 This is Old Testament Amos.
01:53:43.000 What you call good, they call evil.
01:53:45.000 I was listening to the show a little bit last night, and it was kind of that conversation on the idea.
01:53:50.000 Unfortunately, some people's first discovery of evil is when it's causing grave bodily harm to them.
01:53:57.000 The idea that I understand that we want to give grace, this cultural concept that we have in America, that we want to give grace to other people saying, oh he just doesn't know something.
01:54:07.000 I understand that.
01:54:08.000 There is genuine evil in the world.
01:54:10.000 And at some point negligence, when you seize its position of power and you accept that responsibility and then you prove negligent, you need to be held responsible regardless of intention.
01:54:20.000 Take the example of the generals who led over Afghanistan.
01:54:24.000 Right?
01:54:25.000 It takes a certain amount of gall to go before the American people and say, see that cratering death that's going on over there?
01:54:34.000 Worked out great.
01:54:36.000 It's a success.
01:54:37.000 I understand there's a thing called finding a silver lining, but there's a difference between finding a silver lining in something and then calling something that is catastrophic as good.
01:54:48.000 Right?
01:54:49.000 If I make an error in publishing, you know what?
01:54:51.000 I need to be censured, addressed for it.
01:54:54.000 Right?
01:54:54.000 If I publish false information.
01:54:56.000 I know that we give some grace to that subject, right?
01:54:59.000 But if I literally go online, if I go publish in our publication and say, this firearm is a safe firearm when I know the fact that it will cause grave bodily harm for the person intending to use it.
01:55:14.000 I know it's a defective problem.
01:55:16.000 We don't say that that's just okay.
01:55:18.000 So when Binger, when you have somebody, we have to go back to understanding that there's a difference.
01:55:25.000 Some people just are ignorant, right?
01:55:28.000 They think that Django Unchained is an accurate description of firearms.
01:55:32.000 That scene where he points at the woman and pulls the trigger and then she flies sideways?
01:55:37.000 You know Quentin Tarantino did that on purpose.
01:55:39.000 It was hilarious.
01:55:40.000 It's hilarious.
01:55:41.000 It's silly.
01:55:42.000 It's so good.
01:55:43.000 I got a really good super chat here.
01:55:44.000 This is really important.
01:55:45.000 Brighton Gros says the judge may be coloring the water with the gun charge.
01:55:49.000 Rittenhouse being convicted for the gun charge showed the jury's tainted, then he'd interject.
01:55:53.000 I think that's pie in the sky thinking.
01:55:56.000 That's like 40 chest to me.
01:55:58.000 I just don't think that he's going to be playing around with something this important that day.
01:56:01.000 But for those that aren't familiar with coloring the water, I love this concept.
01:56:05.000 Imagine there are four glasses of water on a table and there is a pool of water beneath them, meaning there is a leak coming from one of these glasses or more and you don't know which one.
01:56:15.000 So you put red, green, blue, and orange in each glass, and then whatever color the water on the table turns to, you know where the leak is coming from.
01:56:24.000 Sure.
01:56:25.000 So basically what they're arguing is, the judge puts a poison pill into the jury, the gun charge, which is clearly, as a matter of law, not applicable to Kyle Rittenhouse.
01:56:34.000 If the jury is politically biased, or biased, or just doesn't want to take the time to actually go through the law, and they come back, This reminds me of that band, and I always forget the one, where they demanded brown M&Ms in their dressing room.
01:56:46.000 Van Halen, wasn't it?
01:56:47.000 Red M&Ms?
01:56:48.000 Yeah, they had a horrible accent.
01:56:49.000 And it was just a matter of making sure that they read the entire contract.
01:56:52.000 Exactly.
01:56:53.000 Everyone thought it was divas being like, I only need red M&Ms.
01:56:55.000 But actually, they said, we'll put something seemingly innocuous right in the middle.
01:57:00.000 And if we don't get it, we know they didn't read the contract.
01:57:02.000 Yes, because they'd had a huge accident at one of their events where they had talked to the stage manager and they let the stage collapse or something and people ended up being seriously hurt or dying.
01:57:11.000 So this was incredibly important to them.
01:57:13.000 Travis Scott?
01:57:16.000 No, no, no.
01:57:17.000 They said the stage needs to hold a certain amount of weight.
01:57:20.000 And then it didn't.
01:57:21.000 So they were like, let's make sure they do the stupidest, most innocuous thing imaginable.
01:57:26.000 I don't think the judge is doing that.
01:57:28.000 But I do think the judge is holding in his back pocket a directed verdict and a mistrial with prejudice because he said I will take it under advisement.
01:57:34.000 He really wants the jury to rule on this one.
01:57:37.000 I also think, he's in his seventies, he might be like, no, as a matter of law, I'm issuing a directed verdict and throwing that out.
01:57:45.000 I, yeah, I lose their minds.
01:57:45.000 Oh boy.
01:57:49.000 But I mean, this is, this is a good strategy to this.
01:57:51.000 So like, if we're looking at it this way, if, if the, if the judge, if the, if the verdict comes out one way or another, that the, um, That Kyle Rittenhouse has acquitted.
01:58:03.000 We need to make sure that we play a smart game here.
01:58:06.000 You need to let the bad actors act.
01:58:08.000 Yeah.
01:58:08.000 Right?
01:58:09.000 You need to let the bad actors act.
01:58:10.000 It's kind of like the whole Antifa strategy.
01:58:13.000 We create a little bit of a... I provoke a reaction from you and I get him to film it.
01:58:17.000 And they only see your reaction.
01:58:19.000 Right?
01:58:20.000 So I'm not saying that we need to play the devil by his own game.
01:58:25.000 We need to make sure that their game is visible.
01:58:28.000 Sure.
01:58:28.000 Right?
01:58:30.000 Yeah, be smart.
01:58:33.000 I'm not letting anybody come and burn down my house, but I'm not gonna go throw on my kit and protect the shopping mall down the street at this time.
01:58:45.000 My business, yes.
01:58:49.000 There might be something to be said.
01:58:50.000 Let's just say the malicious actors who have studied it online, and you can find them if you want to, have already stated that they are trying to dox the jurors.
01:59:01.000 It's a crime.
01:59:02.000 Some of them should be charged and pursued as domestic terrorists.
01:59:08.000 Understandably.
01:59:09.000 However, one of the things that we can see now is, all right, if the state is not going to protect the jurors, the people better.
01:59:16.000 Sure.
01:59:17.000 Because the people better.
01:59:18.000 They're threatening the jury.
01:59:19.000 And they're threatening the judge.
01:59:19.000 Yeah.
01:59:21.000 Hopefully their neighbors are willing to step up.
01:59:22.000 I mean, there are good men in this world that you can talk to.
01:59:25.000 There are good men out there who are, you're a juror and you're being threatened.
01:59:30.000 This is a very important moment to consider.
01:59:33.000 If come Monday, they do the closing arguments, if we get a speedy verdict and they say guilty on all counts, you know it's broken and then we're in trouble.
01:59:42.000 That's the worst possible outcome.
01:59:43.000 You'll just have cultural nihilism.
01:59:46.000 I think that would precipitate the collapse of this country.
01:59:50.000 That's when you need to start raiding industrial society and its future and taking it seriously.
01:59:54.000 I think the states would rip apart.
01:59:57.000 I think Texas and Florida's like, you know, stand your ground.
02:00:00.000 We will not allow that culture to persist here.
02:00:02.000 I think the people that looked at this case saying, I hope there's at least a semblance of law and order or justice in this world, will become masked vigilantes enacting violence.
02:00:12.000 And you look at the crime in San Francisco, you look in Connecticut.
02:00:15.000 Oh boy.
02:00:15.000 I want to get this next super chat from Frankie Sherritt.
02:00:18.000 Tim, I love the show and Castcastle is the show hosted at the Castcastle.
02:00:22.000 Also, I'm always curious when watching how many people live at the Castcastle.
02:00:24.000 I'm so intrigued by it all.
02:00:26.000 In fact, only like three people actually live here.
02:00:28.000 Four, actually.
02:00:31.000 Most people just drive to work.
02:00:33.000 It's a big office building.
02:00:36.000 The room behind us is all covered in plastic for construction.
02:00:39.000 There's like office chairs and computers for editing.
02:00:42.000 There's a reception area.
02:00:44.000 It's a business.
02:00:44.000 Careful in there.
02:00:45.000 There might be splinters on the floor.
02:00:46.000 I stepped on one.
02:00:47.000 Oof.
02:00:47.000 Yeah, well, we've got a lot of construction because we're putting in more office space and stuff like that.
02:00:52.000 And yes, this is the cast castle.
02:00:54.000 This is where we do the show.
02:00:55.000 But we are setting up Freedomistan, which has got much bigger acreage.
02:00:58.000 We're going to build a new building.
02:01:00.000 And we might actually, I'm not completely sure, but I believe we'll relocate everything.
02:01:05.000 The core functions of the business as we expand and do new shows is going to be based at Freedomistan.
02:01:10.000 So with like Tales from the Inverted World and we're doing a new pop culture show that hasn't been announced yet, but it's actually all put together and functioning and we have like test runs going.
02:01:20.000 Those will probably be recorded at a different location and we're gonna start expanding at Freedomistan You know recording areas and sports and you know video games and all that stuff because there's more acreage So this this place is great.
02:01:32.000 It's big, but we don't have so much land.
02:01:34.000 So we got more land.
02:01:35.000 So that's coming soon Let's just grab a couple more super chats here because it's getting late.
02:01:40.000 We got I got to get up at 5 a.m We're flying to Austin.
02:01:42.000 Mm-hmm.
02:01:43.000 All right.
02:01:43.000 Let's see Ghost Crusader says Tim there are four lights You guys get that one.
02:01:49.000 Jack Posoba tweeted that out too.
02:01:51.000 Classic line from Star Trek.
02:01:53.000 And, uh, let's see.
02:01:54.000 Uh, we'll grab one more.
02:01:57.000 Let's do a good one.
02:01:58.000 Plants Rock says, I am terrified that the jury will feel pressured to convict Kyle, even if the prosecution's case is weak AF.
02:02:04.000 I'm hesitant to fully trust them.
02:02:06.000 And I agree.
02:02:08.000 With reports of emails coming in and threats coming in, someone was filming the jury.
02:02:13.000 And the judge just was like, oh, we'll make sure it doesn't happen again.
02:02:16.000 And it's like, oh, they deleted the footage.
02:02:18.000 No, they didn't.
02:02:18.000 You can't delete footage.
02:02:20.000 If I delete a photo off my phone, I can download an app and get it right back in two seconds.
02:02:25.000 So, I hope people are, I hope you're prepared.
02:02:29.000 You might not expect they could come back and say guilty on all counts.
02:02:32.000 And we will all be surprised, even these progressives who are like, I was wrong.
02:02:35.000 Considering their change of heart, we'll see.
02:02:37.000 With that being said, my friends, make sure you smash the like button, because you should.
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02:02:46.000 We're flying to Austin next week and it's going to be so much fun.
02:02:49.000 Because there are many people in and around Austin that we're going to be hanging out with.
02:02:53.000 And we're doing our show for the first time for the week in the mobile production studio.
02:02:58.000 Literally just an RV.
02:02:59.000 It's a fifth wheel RV that we set up cameras and got everything going.
02:03:02.000 Actually, it looks pretty nice.
02:03:03.000 I'm actually impressed.
02:03:04.000 We should put some, like, you know, art up on it.
02:03:06.000 But it looks pretty good.
02:03:07.000 And this is a trial run because we're planning on doing trips once a month for about a week.
02:03:11.000 So, I think we're going to Florida in March.
02:03:13.000 We're going to New Hampshire in June.
02:03:15.000 We're going to Nashville in January.
02:03:17.000 We've got to figure out what's going on for February.
02:03:19.000 But then for a week out of every month, we're going to do a show on location in various cities with specific guests from those locations for events like the Bitcoin Conference or Porkfest.
02:03:26.000 It's gonna be a lot of fun.
02:03:27.000 So follow the show everywhere.
02:03:28.000 Follow TimCastIRL on Instagram because we put up clips.
02:03:31.000 You can follow me personally at TimCast basically everywhere.
02:03:34.000 Do you guys want to shout out anything?
02:03:36.000 Yeah, sure.
02:03:37.000 So I'm, again, Forrest Cooper with Recoil Magazine.
02:03:39.000 Like I said at the beginning, if you go to recoilweb.com slash timpool, you get 25% off an annual subscription for our magazine.
02:03:47.000 You can see a lot of these cool things that we get to put our time in.
02:03:50.000 And that is a news information magazine, not a Not a what?
02:03:55.000 Not a magazine for a firearm.
02:03:57.000 No, no, no, no, no.
02:03:59.000 It is a it is a cult firearms culture magazine.
02:04:02.000 Actually, we are cultured.
02:04:04.000 You can follow me at Instagram.
02:04:05.000 My Instagram handle is at Foxrow underscore actual.
02:04:09.000 No, actually, I changed it or did it I'm not change it.
02:04:12.000 It's Foxrow underscore official.
02:04:14.000 Yeah.
02:04:15.000 How do you spell that Fox?
02:04:16.000 F-O-X-R-O-E underscore official.
02:04:19.000 That is my Instagram.
02:04:22.000 And then that's kind of it for now.
02:04:24.000 Fallout Recoil magazine is on Instagram as well.
02:04:29.000 Yeah, again, I'm Justin with Phoenix Ammunition, our website phoenixammo.com.
02:04:34.000 You can follow me on Twitter at Phoenix Ammunition.
02:04:37.000 F-E-N-I-X.
02:04:39.000 F-E-N-I-X, that's right.
02:04:42.000 You had that famous moment where you said, did you vote for Joe Biden?
02:04:45.000 Yeah, now it says, is Kyle Rittenhouse innocent?
02:04:50.000 And what happens if you say he's not?
02:04:53.000 It sends you to Joe Biden's gun control website.
02:04:57.000 Remember to get training, guys.
02:04:59.000 As Travis Haley said a couple weeks ago to me, however you practice, dying is exactly how you'll die.
02:05:08.000 We were just practicing earlier, and I thought what you guys had to say was important, so I shut up more than I usually did.
02:05:13.000 So thanks so much for coming.
02:05:16.000 I think I'm going to start a night vision fund on wearechange.org, so I'm very jealous of everything.
02:05:22.000 But seriously, one of the best things you could do for me is go on enoughofcensorship.com and sign up on my free email list It doesn't cost you anything, but it's one way to get rid of the middleman, the big tech technocrats.
02:05:34.000 No one stands in the way of us being able to email together.
02:05:37.000 Enoughofcensorship.com is the website.
02:05:40.000 Just put it in there and it means the world to me.
02:05:42.000 Oh gosh, happy to be here too, Ian Crossland.
02:05:43.000 You can follow me at iancrossland.net.
02:05:45.000 Hit me up, subscribe to my channel on YouTube.
02:05:47.000 You can hit me up on Twitter, Facebook and Mines, Instagram, all that.
02:05:50.000 Great to have you guys here.
02:05:52.000 I hope that you guys all learned something interesting about guns tonight.
02:05:55.000 And I was wrong about the M&Ms.
02:05:56.000 It is brown M&Ms, not red M&Ms.
02:05:58.000 I said brown.
02:05:59.000 I know.
02:05:59.000 I am corrected.
02:06:00.000 Fact check.
02:06:01.000 Tim was correct.
02:06:01.000 I fact checked myself because I wasn't sure, but it was Van Halen.
02:06:04.000 And they didn't have that accident.
02:06:05.000 So you guys can follow me on Twitter at sarahpatchelids.
02:06:08.000 Make sure you check out youtube.com slash castcastle because I'm fairly certain they're filming their road trip.
02:06:14.000 So what's happening is we have an advanced crew bringing the mobile production center to Austin because we have to work and it's like a 24 hour drive.
02:06:24.000 Now that they're just arriving, we can then fly in and be right there and ready.
02:06:28.000 Otherwise, we wouldn't have been able to make a trip like that.
02:06:32.000 The crew for the show has to fly so we can get there quickly enough, but I think they vlogged the trip, which is probably just driving straight through.
02:06:39.000 I don't know.
02:06:39.000 Check it out anyway.
02:06:40.000 The vlog will be fun.
02:06:41.000 And then we're going to have the vlog from Austin.
02:06:43.000 And I think you guys know who lives in Austin.
02:06:46.000 There's a handful of people.
02:06:48.000 Some conspiracy theorists, perhaps, who believe that Thomas Jefferson was a part of the Illuminati.
02:06:54.000 You know what I mean?
02:06:54.000 There's Elon Musk also there.
02:06:58.000 You can hit us up.
02:06:59.000 Elon, what's going on, man?
02:07:00.000 We've got some serious questions we've got to ask you.
02:07:03.000 So that being said, thanks for hanging out this Friday night with all of us, and we're going to be back officially Monday in our mobile production studio in Austin.
02:07:10.000 We'll see you there.
02:07:11.000 Thanks for hanging out.