Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - December 18, 2021


Timcast IRL - NBC Settles Lawsuit With Nick Sandmann w-Shane Cashman & Olivia Rondeau


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 8 minutes

Words per Minute

207.1218

Word Count

26,698

Sentence Count

2,197

Misogynist Sentences

19

Hate Speech Sentences

38


Summary

On today's show, we have special guest Olivia Rondo to talk about the aftermath of the R.I.P. incident at the Timestamps Club and the fallout from it. We also have a special guest Shane Cashman of Tales from the Inverted World to discuss his new book, "Close Contact with a Ghost" and much more.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Peace out yo!
00:00:11.000 Yesterday was pretty wild.
00:00:12.000 Everybody's yelling at me.
00:00:14.000 Got people tweeting up a storm.
00:00:15.000 For those that didn't hear, we got pretty heated in the members segment.
00:00:20.000 Man, so yesterday we had Ari the Rugged Man and we worked it out.
00:00:25.000 We hugged it out.
00:00:26.000 There was some yelling.
00:00:26.000 We got heated.
00:00:27.000 There was some standing up and slapping stuff.
00:00:30.000 And that was all in the member segment.
00:00:31.000 A lot of people just did not understand what happened.
00:00:33.000 They thought it was on YouTube and it got deleted.
00:00:35.000 It was never on YouTube.
00:00:36.000 It was on TimCast.com.
00:00:38.000 And that was the biggest member segment we've ever had.
00:00:41.000 And I mean like a hundred times bigger than anything we've had before, which is crazy.
00:00:46.000 It's bigger than Alex Jones.
00:00:47.000 And it overloaded our site.
00:00:49.000 But it was crazy.
00:00:50.000 We'll talk a little bit about that in the show today, but I don't like getting carried away into the drama stuff.
00:00:56.000 But I do think there's so much misinformation already about what happened, and we should talk about how we felt about how things were going, like what was going through our minds and stuff, as things got pretty heated.
00:01:08.000 But, I mean, I don't know.
00:01:11.000 I didn't even really think it was that big of a deal.
00:01:13.000 I was like, man, wow, you know, crazy.
00:01:14.000 But apparently a lot of people, like Daily Dot wrote this ridiculously fake article.
00:01:19.000 Great.
00:01:19.000 And there's something really interesting about what the Daily Dot wrote.
00:01:22.000 They wrote that I called R.A.
00:01:24.000 a racist prick, and then they go on to say that Tim Pool is white, and I thought about that, and I'm like, if I'm a quarter Korean, you know, two generations of mixed-race families, but I am definitively, factually white, and I'm like, that would be a really interesting precedent for their ideology as it pertains to all mixed-race people, you know what I mean?
00:01:42.000 But we'll talk more about this.
00:01:43.000 The bigger news is that Nick Sandman settled his defamation suit with NBC for a confidential sum, which sounds like it's probably a decent amount of money.
00:01:52.000 Might not be as big as many people think, but, you know, we'll take a look at that.
00:01:55.000 We got President Biden apparently calling Kamala Harris President... President Harris.
00:02:01.000 Again, we got MSNBC saying Ron DeSantis's anti-woke bill is, what is it, codifying white supremacy or some other stupid trash?
00:02:10.000 You know, man, it's Friday.
00:02:11.000 How about we just chill, have a good time?
00:02:13.000 We've got a bunch of people hanging out.
00:02:14.000 We're hanging out with Olivia Rondo.
00:02:15.000 How's it going, man?
00:02:16.000 I'm so happy to be back.
00:02:16.000 You've got to pull up your mic.
00:02:18.000 And talk up.
00:02:19.000 Speak up.
00:02:21.000 There we go.
00:02:21.000 Hi!
00:02:21.000 I'm so happy to be back.
00:02:22.000 Perfect.
00:02:23.000 So what do you do?
00:02:24.000 Who are you?
00:02:25.000 I'm Olivia Rondo.
00:02:26.000 I'm a journalist and I consider myself to... You gotta get the mic real quick.
00:02:30.000 Okay.
00:02:30.000 Right up.
00:02:31.000 I'm turning you up.
00:02:31.000 All right.
00:02:32.000 Journalist and Liberty activist.
00:02:34.000 You may have seen me.
00:02:37.000 I'll sound like you.
00:02:40.000 Okay.
00:02:42.000 Recently, I've been on Kennedy on Fox Business a lot.
00:02:45.000 You may have seen me on there or an HBO talk show called Pause with Sam Jay.
00:02:49.000 I was also on there this year.
00:02:51.000 Perfect.
00:02:51.000 Sweet.
00:02:53.000 Thanks for coming. Thank you. You were here before too though. We got Shane Cashman.
00:02:56.000 What's up? I'm the writer and host of Tales from the Inverted World. We just put out our first book,
00:03:02.000 volume one, close contact with ghost simulation theory.
00:03:07.000 Look at that, there's a book. I put down a lot of rabbit holes, look at a lot of weird stuff. It was
00:03:11.000 fun.
00:03:12.000 I'm happy to have it out.
00:03:13.000 So you can go to invertedworldbook.com and get your copy right now.
00:03:17.000 Pretty stoked to have it out.
00:03:18.000 This is, someone messaged me and they were like, wow, congratulations on starting a publishing house.
00:03:22.000 And I was like, I don't know.
00:03:23.000 Is that what it is?
00:03:24.000 We are now.
00:03:24.000 Surprise.
00:03:24.000 Right.
00:03:25.000 I was like, Hey Shane, can you make a book?
00:03:26.000 You're like, yeah.
00:03:27.000 I'm like, all right.
00:03:28.000 Boom.
00:03:29.000 Yeah.
00:03:30.000 Yeah.
00:03:30.000 And then there's Luke.
00:03:32.000 Surprise!
00:03:33.000 I'm still here.
00:03:34.000 Luke apologized to me a couple times.
00:03:37.000 I was like, because people don't understand, I knew Ari for a number of years now, and I'm like, this would be a great opportunity for everyone to come together and to talk, and I thought it was going to go a lot different than it would.
00:03:53.000 And yeah, it was a little crazy.
00:03:55.000 I know I did talk about, you know, starting a fight club at the house, but that kind of escalated really quickly.
00:04:00.000 It was a joke, actually.
00:04:01.000 It was a joke, but Luke was talking about bringing like a personal trainer for people.
00:04:05.000 No, no, I did.
00:04:05.000 Yeah.
00:04:07.000 I hired a jiu-jitsu trainer for the house.
00:04:09.000 It's in the latest vlog.
00:04:10.000 You could actually watch our latest kind of exercise everyone in the house was participating in.
00:04:15.000 We're going to be doing this weekly and now practicing and studying jiu-jitsu in the house.
00:04:20.000 Not because of what happened last night, but because this was an initiative that we talked about doing for a very long time.
00:04:25.000 Now we're doing it, so I'm very excited about that.
00:04:27.000 I'm already working on I'm Not That Guy merch.
00:04:30.000 Sarcastically, I'm not, you know, obviously.
00:04:30.000 Ah!
00:04:32.000 But anyway, today's merch that I'm wearing right now is, I would say, right on the nose.
00:04:37.000 If you get it, you get it.
00:04:38.000 Some people will not understand it, but if you will, it sends a very strong political message, and you can get yours on thebestpoliticalshirts.com.
00:04:46.000 And when you do, you support me.
00:04:48.000 Thanks so much for having me.
00:04:50.000 Uh, and, uh, yeah, that was wild last night.
00:04:52.000 It was like Thanksgiving dinner.
00:04:54.000 I thought it was, I thought it was a really, really good show.
00:04:57.000 I think what people don't realize is you got to have people who disagree with you.
00:05:00.000 You can't just, and not everybody's going to articulate the way you, it's, it's not going to be some like two smart people, you know, or intellect intelligentsia types just sitting there being like, well, I humbly disagree.
00:05:11.000 Like sometimes like people just saying you're wrong.
00:05:14.000 I disagree.
00:05:15.000 I think you're a liar.
00:05:15.000 I think you're dumb.
00:05:16.000 This was the way things go, man.
00:05:17.000 Do you think he'll walk away and question how he acted yesterday and think differently about his perception of the world?
00:05:23.000 I don't know.
00:05:24.000 I don't know.
00:05:24.000 I hope so.
00:05:25.000 I do.
00:05:25.000 I don't know either.
00:05:26.000 I, I, I, I, look man, I think he's racist.
00:05:29.000 You know, but we'll, we'll talk about this cause we got a segment that talks a little bit.
00:05:32.000 We got a couple of segments actually talking about this and I'll just, I'll just say one thing on this before we get started.
00:05:36.000 It was weird to me that my stance was when I was little, my family got, my family home was, was attacked by white supremacists and he, the guy who was supposed to be opposing racism was, was the one laughing about that and saying, so what?
00:05:49.000 I don't care.
00:05:50.000 So I'm like, you really don't care.
00:05:52.000 Like, how is it that I'm the guy saying white supremacists are bad and he was the one laughing saying, you know what I mean?
00:05:56.000 But we disagree, we disagree.
00:05:57.000 And that's fine.
00:05:59.000 You know, I disagree with him.
00:05:59.000 I don't got any beef.
00:06:01.000 Anyway, Leah's here pushing buttons.
00:06:02.000 Yeah, I'm also here.
00:06:03.000 It is true that you have to meet people where they are and they're not always going to articulate in the way that you would like them to.
00:06:08.000 I do love that we're able to bring people on and have these challenging conversations because I don't know that people believe that people really think this and people like him do.
00:06:14.000 So it's worth learning about and continuing to grapple with.
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00:07:52.000 If you want to see exactly what happened in the episode yesterday, which, you know, everybody was going nuts about.
00:07:57.000 I was trending on Twitter.
00:07:58.000 It was nuts.
00:07:59.000 That's the latest members-only segment with RA the Rugged Man.
00:08:02.000 And you can check it out and make, you know, think for yourself, decide for yourself how you feel about it.
00:08:06.000 But that was the biggest members-only segment we've ever had.
00:08:11.000 In less than 24 hours, over 1,000 comments on it.
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00:08:24.000 Let's talk about this first story.
00:08:25.000 Ah, the media.
00:08:27.000 The fake news.
00:08:28.000 Nick Sandman settles defamation suit with NBC for confidential sum.
00:08:32.000 Another slanted liberal news outlet has felt the sting of justice, according to Newsbusters.
00:08:37.000 In a Friday evening tweet from the defamed man himself, former Covington High School student Nicholas Sandman announced that he had settled his defamation suit with NBC News for an undisclosed amount of money.
00:08:47.000 With little fanfare, Sandman posted the tweet, reading, At this time, I would like to release that NBC and I have reached a settlement.
00:08:53.000 The terms are confidential.
00:08:55.000 Sandman sued NBC for over 250 million dollars.
00:08:59.000 I don't I do not think he got anywhere near that But I certainly think this kid is gonna be pretty comfortable now I bring this up and that and that's the gist of this story many of us know the history of Nick Sandman and the Covington kids, but I want to I want to wrap this back into kind of the the current situation around what happened on this show and everything and just say I You know, when I'm having a conversation with someone, and they're obstinate, but their worldview is based on media lies, you need to look at the Nick Salmon case, you need to look at the Jussie Smollett case, you need to look at Russiagate, and you can start to understand why these people are trapped in this broken worldview that makes no sense.
00:09:35.000 Or even the Iraq war or the banker bailout.
00:09:37.000 I mean, there's so many things that the corporate media, you know, spread lies about that were completely, absolutely not true at all.
00:09:45.000 So this is, this Sandman case is a very important case because this is his third win.
00:09:51.000 He has six lawsuits in total.
00:09:53.000 One of the first major wins was, of course, against CNN that now I think should have a reputation of hurting children.
00:10:00.000 I think there's an epidemic literally going on of CNN hurting children in so many unspeakable ways.
00:10:06.000 Veritas released the name, too.
00:10:07.000 Yes, yes, yes.
00:10:09.000 And then there's a number of producers.
00:10:11.000 There's also Jack Posobiec, who claims that CNN was hiring this first producer that did unspeakable things to children for over a year, knowing that the FBI had data on him that he was doing very illegal things to children.
00:10:26.000 Again, family-friendly show here, so we're not going to be talking about that.
00:10:28.000 But again, CNN, there's an epidemic going around and it's not good for children.
00:10:33.000 CNN has two producers, but they're two high-level producers.
00:10:38.000 It was a guy working with Cuomo and a guy working with Tapper.
00:10:41.000 That, to me, right away, I'm not gonna come... I wouldn't say that's enough for me to be like, clearly CNN is a gigantic, you know, crazy... But I would be like, I think it's time to actually do a deep investigation.
00:10:52.000 Maybe subpoena some devices.
00:10:55.000 Because if you've got two in this short amount of time that just popped out, and they're both at the top-level shows, I think CNN, I think the law enforcement, I want to start asking questions about who's working there, what they're doing.
00:11:05.000 Tim, two that we know about.
00:11:06.000 That's what I mean.
00:11:07.000 What don't we know about?
00:11:08.000 That's what I'm saying, get in there.
00:11:09.000 And then I was making a reference to of course Sandman because Sandman also sued CNN and won successfully after CNN also hurt him when he was a child.
00:11:17.000 So again, I was being a little hyperbolic, a little sensationalistic there.
00:11:21.000 I'm happy to see Sandman get the settlement, but I would kind of want to see an apology from the outlets.
00:11:27.000 I want them to come out and be like, we broke your worldview, we fractured reality, and we're taking account, but that'll never happen.
00:11:33.000 We lied.
00:11:34.000 We slandered a literal child.
00:11:35.000 We slandered a teenager for political propaganda purposes.
00:11:40.000 Yeah.
00:11:40.000 Here's some money on the side.
00:11:41.000 Yeah.
00:11:42.000 We're not going to get anything satisfactory.
00:11:42.000 And only to him.
00:11:44.000 The lie travels halfway around the world before the truth can strap on his boots.
00:11:48.000 Yeah, because there's people still roaming the world who believe in the false reality from the beginning, like the Rittenhouse thing.
00:11:48.000 Yeah.
00:11:53.000 I mean, that's, I believe, what was the catalyst for what happened last night.
00:11:58.000 For sure.
00:11:58.000 We had a dude here who was adamant in his belief about a false reality.
00:12:04.000 I mean, I think collectivism versus individualism plays a huge role in all of this stuff.
00:12:04.000 And it's crazy.
00:12:09.000 But I think, as I often say, it's not left versus right.
00:12:13.000 You know, it doesn't make sense.
00:12:14.000 Like Vosh, for instance, he had a segment with a decent take on what happened the other day.
00:12:18.000 But he called me a conservative, and by nature, then, if you're conservative, you're racist.
00:12:23.000 And then I literally say, abolish the police on the clip.
00:12:26.000 And he goes, thank you, Tim.
00:12:27.000 And I'm like, I don't understand how you could claim there's anything conservative about wanting to abolish the police.
00:12:32.000 Libertarian, anarchist, or whatever.
00:12:34.000 But that's why I often say that what's really going on, which is exemplified by the Sandman thing, there are the people who know, who are discerning, who are looking for facts and evidence, and there are the people who don't and just believe narratives.
00:12:49.000 And so when it comes to Kyle Rittenhouse, they are still wrong to this day.
00:12:53.000 When it came to Nick Sandman, Bill Maher came out a week after the retractions and said BS info.
00:13:01.000 And I was like, Bill!
00:13:03.000 You had a week!
00:13:05.000 He's getting sued too, isn't he?
00:13:06.000 Oh, I don't know.
00:13:07.000 I don't either.
00:13:08.000 Look, man, I like Bill Maher for, you know, because he pushes back on this stuff, but it's like Bill Maher is so close to getting his head out of the sand.
00:13:17.000 He's so close, but he's not quite there.
00:13:19.000 I love seeing his audience be hesitant to clap sometimes.
00:13:22.000 It's one of the best things.
00:13:22.000 Yeah.
00:13:23.000 They're scared, not hesitant.
00:13:24.000 They're scared and terrified because sometimes, like, he's not the best, but sometimes he drops a truth bomb that wakes everyone up being like, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
00:13:33.000 He's supposed to be telling us the narrative.
00:13:35.000 We're supposed to clap when the sign tells us to clap.
00:13:38.000 And they're like, Is this acceptable?
00:13:40.000 And we're kind of looking around here because he does land some punches, but a lot of the times he does a lot of bidding for the establishment.
00:13:47.000 If any one of these people just read, Bill Maher doesn't.
00:13:51.000 That's why when it came to like critical race theory stuff, Bill Maher was kind of like, well, if they're teaching kids this, that's bad.
00:13:58.000 If they're teaching that, then it's good.
00:13:59.000 And it's like, Bill, just read one article and you can say it's bad.
00:14:05.000 But what ends up happening is, you know, a big portion of what we end up fighting over, especially yesterday, was critical race theory being banned in schools is stopping the teaching of racism.
00:14:13.000 And it's like, that's not at all what any of us are upset about or worried about.
00:14:18.000 But that's what they hear on TV.
00:14:20.000 People like Bill Maher, who are supposed to be the opposition, regurgitate that talking point from bad actors.
00:14:25.000 And then they think we're the ones who are making it up.
00:14:28.000 You know, when it came to Kyle Rittenhouse, that's what really kicked off everything the other day.
00:14:32.000 I'm like, we've had seven different witnesses to what happened with Kyle Rittenhouse on this show.
00:14:37.000 I do not base my opinions off of, like, watching a random Twitter video from, you know, some leftist progressive.
00:14:42.000 I was like, I wanna see the people who were there tell me what happened.
00:14:45.000 And then we get that information, and I base my opinions off that.
00:14:48.000 But if you base your opinions off of how CNN framed it, then you're gonna be getting sued when you talk smack against people like Nick Sandman.
00:14:55.000 Absolutely, and the facts matter here, and your words matter, and that's why you should always be careful.
00:14:59.000 And if you make a mistake, you should issue a correction.
00:15:02.000 A lot of these newspapers, a lot of these news organizations don't have anything holding them accountable.
00:15:07.000 They publish a retraction, maybe on page 17, maybe in the little byline.
00:15:11.000 But the build-up, especially when it came to the war in Iraq, when it came to Russiagate, had huge impacts on our daily lives that impacted us negatively, that hurt people, that killed people, that literally created some of the worst scenarios that destroyed any elements of truth.
00:15:29.000 And honesty in our society.
00:15:31.000 And they were still never held responsible for a lot of those bigger lies.
00:15:35.000 So it's good to see, on a personal level, some accountability.
00:15:37.000 But we still have to remember, by and large, the corporate media has a long criminal past with some very disgusting behavior that they still should be held responsible for, but they haven't.
00:15:47.000 I think, you know, Ian says this a lot.
00:15:48.000 He's not here tonight.
00:15:49.000 He's on vacation for the holidays.
00:15:51.000 But he says all of this started breaking apart when 9-11 happened.
00:15:55.000 I think he's right.
00:15:56.000 I think, you know, after 9-11, you get the Patriot Act, you get the Iraq War, the war in Afghanistan.
00:16:02.000 You got this matrix narrative that started, it just started changing things.
00:16:09.000 And then you get, I mean, to be completely honest, it may have actually even been the 2000 election, how contentious it was.
00:16:15.000 But I think the authoritarianism that popped out of after 9-11 really changed how we live and work and view law enforcement authorities.
00:16:23.000 Then you get this cultural back and forth.
00:16:26.000 It escalates to the point where we end up with how social, I talk about how social media manipulation
00:16:31.000 became a big prominent thing.
00:16:32.000 But I believe that there was a major like fracture in the timeline around 9-11.
00:16:36.000 Yeah, 9-11 brought in that fear that translated to political power
00:16:42.000 for the intelligence agencies and the government secret agencies
00:16:46.000 that profited off of it in so many different ways.
00:16:49.000 Whether it was insider trading.
00:16:50.000 I don't want to get into the nitty-gritty.
00:16:52.000 I don't want to get into the details here, but I would argue that what happened after 9-11 was trauma-based mind control.
00:16:58.000 Literally people were shown thousands of people dying all at once and then blaming other people in other countries who had nothing to do with it saying they did it.
00:17:06.000 They killed your friends.
00:17:06.000 They did it.
00:17:07.000 They killed your family members.
00:17:08.000 They could kill you next.
00:17:10.000 And they used that fear, that psychological warfare against the general public to say, just give us a little bit of your rights.
00:17:16.000 Just give us a little bit of your free privacy.
00:17:19.000 And of course, it started with, you know, just reasonable asks, and then it became more unreasonable, more crazy, more sinister, to the point where now the NSA knows almost every little thing you do.
00:17:29.000 They track trace and database your activities.
00:17:31.000 There's a secret social credit score that no one even wants to talk about.
00:17:34.000 We're living in a database now where you need government permission to go to the supermarket in some places in the United States and that is absolutely insane draconian and crazy and it all started.
00:17:45.000 I would argue, some people would argue it started even way before that, but I think the larger kind of snowball effect started on 9-11 and it kept rolling in this kind of trajectory of just give up your rights for your greater good, for the benefit of humanity.
00:17:58.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:17:59.000 That's the biggest lie sold to people all throughout history and it always leads to tyranny and I think that's where we're at right now.
00:18:06.000 I talk about this a lot because imagine how it is for the Generation Z that have grown up after 9-11.
00:18:11.000 I'm going to date myself here.
00:18:13.000 I was 8 months old on 9-11.
00:18:15.000 So I grew up, I didn't know a time before the Patriot Act.
00:18:19.000 I didn't know a time before TSA.
00:18:20.000 I didn't know a time before Department of Homeland Security.
00:18:22.000 You know, I grew up, my dad worked for the Department of Homeland Security, so I grew up just very comfortable with authoritarianism, with tyranny.
00:18:30.000 I didn't understand, like, even, like, you know, back before 9-11, you can, like, walk up to the gate with your family to, you know, drop them off.
00:18:37.000 I thought that was a movie trope.
00:18:38.000 I didn't know that was an actual thing until I was, like, in at least middle school or high school, and I actually learned about TSA in 9-11.
00:18:45.000 And so I think we have to really target zoomers because I'm a zoomer.
00:18:48.000 I know how to talk to zoomers and actually like really drill this into their minds because they don't even realize how comfortable with the government overreaching their lot.
00:18:55.000 Like they just don't even understand it.
00:18:57.000 It took a long time for me to understand and I still can't even understand it because I don't, I don't know what it was like before, but I can read about it and I can learn about it.
00:19:02.000 I could try to educate myself about it, but that's something we really need to talk more about with the younger generation, I think.
00:19:07.000 This is what I've been saying about with the metaverse, that the younger generations, like the kids born today, are gonna grow up into the metaverse and be like, I don't know a world without it.
00:19:16.000 Like you're saying, you don't know the world before all this stuff.
00:19:19.000 That's what's gonna happen.
00:19:20.000 They're doing it increment at a time.
00:19:22.000 These cronies, they stay in office for 60 years or whatever, and then they implement that as generations move on.
00:19:30.000 50 years, people are gonna be microchipped, and they're gonna be like, I don't know a world without the Neuralink.
00:19:34.000 I've only ever known the metaverse.
00:19:36.000 The metaverse will be there for the next lockdown.
00:19:38.000 You don't need a high social credit score to go to the supermarket?
00:19:43.000 You don't need to pledge your allegiance to the corporate technocratic overlords before buying your Snapple?
00:19:48.000 When they first locked everybody down, when we were in New Jersey, they said, don't go outside unless you absolutely have to.
00:19:54.000 And so, they weren't gonna arrest you or ticket you, but they were like stay-at-home orders.
00:19:58.000 So I had, in our backyard, we had big open space.
00:20:01.000 I put on the Oculus, and I went to, they have a Google Maps app where you can go all over the place.
00:20:07.000 Yeah, it's fun.
00:20:08.000 And the craziest thing was, you know where I went?
00:20:10.000 You know where I went when I put on those Oculus in New Jersey?
00:20:13.000 Here.
00:20:13.000 Your neighborhood?
00:20:14.000 Oh, here.
00:20:15.000 I went to Harper's Ferry.
00:20:15.000 Yeah, I went here.
00:20:16.000 And I crossed the bridge, and I was going through the neighborhood, and then we started trying to figure out where to go, and I was like, let's go here.
00:20:23.000 So I was actually wearing the headset and you can like look around on Google Maps and like move forward you click and you move forward and it was crazy to me that everybody's I'm like everybody's locked in these cubicles and they're little garbage little studios.
00:20:37.000 I bet tons of people have this and they use it to like calm down.
00:20:41.000 One of the craziest things about it and I think we're going here.
00:20:41.000 Yeah.
00:20:45.000 I'm sure a lot of you guys have the Oculus.
00:20:47.000 There's a theater mode where you put them on and you turn on a movie and it's a giant theater screen in front of you and you can move your head and there's a movie theater right in front of you when you're watching movies and the sound coming in your ears perfectly.
00:20:59.000 That's where we're going.
00:21:00.000 That's gross.
00:21:01.000 And it's going to be, they're doing linked things now, like experiences.
00:21:06.000 You're gonna be sitting in your chair and your, you know, 200 square foot bachelor pad.
00:21:10.000 I need to correct you.
00:21:11.000 You're gonna be in your pod.
00:21:12.000 You're gonna be in your pod.
00:21:14.000 This is like, I will not be in the pod.
00:21:16.000 I will not eat the bugs.
00:21:17.000 I will not watch movies on the Oculus.
00:21:19.000 Are those the pods they're 3D printing in Switzerland?
00:21:21.000 Probably.
00:21:22.000 Ready to go.
00:21:22.000 There's also a lot of pods.
00:21:22.000 Maybe!
00:21:27.000 Yeah, but you'll like, hey guys, you want to go to the movies?
00:21:30.000 And you'll put on your Oculus, you'll go into the metaverse, and you'll be like watching Spider-Man with your friends sitting next to you, and you'll look to your left and you'll see their little like carrot avatar, and the guy in front of you is like a rabbit, and the guy behind him is a duck, and then someone's a caricature of, you know, Mickey Mouse or something.
00:21:47.000 I think, you know, a lot of people say The Matrix is a documentary for a very specific reason, because when you look at essentially what they're calling for, especially with the World Economic Forum, with a lot of very powerful globalists living in a pod, being connected to the virtual world, and then having bug paste and bug juice and this Artificially GMO created paste given to you as artificial meat.
00:22:13.000 That's literally, you know, what was happening in the matrix with people in their little pods being used as bubbles, being used as batteries, literally being plugged into the virtual world.
00:22:25.000 And I think someone, probably something like top tier globalists, either inspired the matrix or saw the matrix and was like, I want that.
00:22:32.000 We're going to make that happen.
00:22:33.000 What a dream.
00:22:34.000 Yeah.
00:22:35.000 You'll have nothing in the real world, but everything in the metaverse.
00:22:37.000 Exactly.
00:22:38.000 You owe nothing and you'll be happy.
00:22:40.000 You'll have no privacy.
00:22:41.000 And that's essentially what they were calling for.
00:22:43.000 They deleted that article, so people can't pull it up right now.
00:22:46.000 But when you look at the article, when you look at a lot of their papers that they released, they essentially write the blueprint for what could be described as the Matrix, as you living in a pod, being their source of energy, their battery for their own personal enjoyment and benefit.
00:23:00.000 Living in their world that they fully control.
00:23:03.000 And I feel like the first seed of that is media manipulation, right?
00:23:07.000 That's why we joke about how these people are in a cult.
00:23:10.000 They're in the Matrix.
00:23:11.000 Like, eventually they're gonna be in the Matrix, and they're gonna gleefully clap and cheer as they enter it.
00:23:16.000 Which people told us in the Super Chats, that's actually Matrix canon.
00:23:20.000 In, I guess, the Animatrix, humans chose to enter the Matrix in exchange for a paradise, but then the robots were like, it doesn't work, people don't want it, and then, like, switched it up on them.
00:23:28.000 Whoa.
00:23:29.000 Let's talk about MSNBC.
00:23:30.000 Let's keep it going with the fake news.
00:23:32.000 We got this from Newsbusters.
00:23:34.000 Insane!
00:23:34.000 Another story.
00:23:36.000 MSNBC host thinks DeSantis wants to codify white supremacy by banning critical race theory.
00:23:42.000 MSNBC is known for its insane and vile commentary, which occurs on an almost daily basis.
00:23:47.000 But this one might be the craziest comments this week.
00:23:49.000 During a segment on MSNBC's The Beat with Ari Melber, fill-in host Jason Johnson discussed Governor Ron DeSantis his support of a bill that would ban critical race theory in public schools.
00:23:59.000 Johnson claimed the proposed legislation, titled Stop Woke Act, is DeSantis' new effort to codify white supremacy for political gain.
00:24:09.000 What does white supremacy mean?
00:24:10.000 See, this was one of the big issues that occurred.
00:24:13.000 One of the points of contention for the episode we did with Ari, the rugged man, was that I don't think even he knows his own definition of white supremacy.
00:24:22.000 And a lot of people don't.
00:24:23.000 Typically, the cultural right believes white supremacy to mean someone who believes they are genetically superior based on their race or the ideology of that.
00:24:33.000 But the leftists, critical race theorists, believe white supremacy literally just means dominant culture.
00:24:39.000 So when the left says white supremacy, they're referring to the fact that most people in this country are white.
00:24:44.000 That's it.
00:24:45.000 So they'll say things like, when they say, you know, Hollywood is a white supremacist institution, what people on the right hear is that they're accusing people in Hollywood of believing they're genetically superior based on race.
00:24:58.000 What the left is saying is that it's an institution created by white people that mostly benefits the majority race in the country.
00:25:09.000 Because of this, you end up with stories like this.
00:25:11.000 They make no sense.
00:25:13.000 So I would argue this.
00:25:16.000 If you take away the word white supremacy and replace it for what they're actually saying, and say that Jason Johnson said the Stop Woke Act is DeSantis' new effort to codify traditional American culture for political gain, it's like, oh, yeah.
00:25:32.000 Maybe.
00:25:33.000 I mean, sure.
00:25:34.000 I don't know.
00:25:35.000 It doesn't sound nearly as insane.
00:25:37.000 Well, I think definitions matter here.
00:25:39.000 And that's why in yesterday's interview, I was like, wait, what do you mean by this?
00:25:43.000 What is your understanding of this?
00:25:44.000 Because I think there was a disconnect with what we thought the words mean.
00:25:48.000 And when it comes to the word white supremacy, it has been used and abused to such a silly level That I feel like in some instances it's losing its meaning.
00:25:57.000 It's losing its power because it rained and MSNBC was freaking out saying it's white supremacy that caused it to rain.
00:26:04.000 I'm being fascist here but they literally almost blame everything underneath the sun.
00:26:08.000 If you're going on nature hikes that's white supremacy.
00:26:11.000 Going out in nature is white supremacy and I'm like You're devaluing this word and this meaning.
00:26:17.000 So for MSNBC to say this, as hyperbolic as they are, it's like, okay, what are you really trying to say here?
00:26:23.000 Because you bastardized the language so much.
00:26:25.000 They're zombies.
00:26:26.000 They're zombies.
00:26:27.000 Zombies and zombie lords.
00:26:29.000 I loved that conversation we had when Ian was here.
00:26:31.000 I was like, because NPC, zombies, kind of interchangeable.
00:26:34.000 And then I mentioned, well, some of these people know they're lying.
00:26:37.000 But I think the people at MSNBC who are saying this stuff are just mindlessly repeating the words.
00:26:42.000 But there are people who know they're changing the definition of the words to manipulate people into joining their cult ideology.
00:26:51.000 And so I asked, are zombies evil?
00:26:53.000 And I think Ian first said, no.
00:26:55.000 He's like, no, no.
00:26:56.000 You know, they're neutral or whatever.
00:26:58.000 And then we looked up, or actually, no, I think he said zombies are evil.
00:27:02.000 In the official Dungeons & Dragons, zombies are evil.
00:27:05.000 So even if you're mindless, like this is the perfect example of the banality of evil.
00:27:10.000 Mindlessly going along with evil.
00:27:13.000 I'm sorry that makes you evil.
00:27:14.000 You know what I mean?
00:27:15.000 Yeah.
00:27:15.000 Luke, you're totally right.
00:27:17.000 The definition changing and then they repeat the words that are not, they're not, they don't mean anything anymore.
00:27:22.000 I'm calling this the death of language.
00:27:24.000 That's how you create multiple realities because there's a whole group of people operating and Certain definitions and there's another group of people Operating in different definitions like the when the guy drove the car through the people to Christmas parade We saw a lot of tweets and headlines.
00:27:38.000 That was a car that drove through PS UV.
00:27:40.000 That's you're killing language there, right?
00:27:42.000 It was an accident But if it was someone else who looked differently, they would sensationalize that to make it very specific to make it You know you afraid of that It's almost as if it's Orwellian.
00:27:52.000 It's almost as we're going through double speak, which I've heard of that.
00:27:57.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:27:58.000 And I think that we could relate to that since, of course, even scientific definitions of herd immunity, vaccines are being changed right in front of our eyes when it meant something else previously before.
00:28:08.000 And I think the same thing is happening with white supremacy.
00:28:11.000 The word racist changed.
00:28:12.000 That went from being just prejudice against somebody because of their race to being about powers and systems and oppression and prejudice and white people or black people can't be racist and white people are only they can only just have prejudice against them.
00:28:25.000 Larry Elder is the black face of white supremacy.
00:28:27.000 Yeah I mean it just it has no meaning it's watered down and then but it's like crazy that these audiences either love that they're changing the definition or don't realize it but either way it's the same end result and it's evil.
00:28:40.000 There's a couple of the issues, you know.
00:28:43.000 And I gotta say, like, we all really want to talk about what happened last night, but it really was a good example of the culture war.
00:28:49.000 And what happens afterwards.
00:28:51.000 So one of the things that happened afterwards is Vosh.
00:28:53.000 We've had him on the show a couple times.
00:28:56.000 He's made progress.
00:28:58.000 I have great respect.
00:28:58.000 When he first came on the show, he called me far-right.
00:29:01.000 Yesterday, or maybe earlier today, he called me a conservative.
00:29:05.000 So he's moving me closer to the middle.
00:29:07.000 That's almost a liberal.
00:29:08.000 Almost, I'm getting close to being a centrist.
00:29:11.000 But he actually defended me.
00:29:13.000 He actually, he made a really good point.
00:29:15.000 He said, he said something like, let's be real guys.
00:29:19.000 If this was any other mixed race person explaining they experienced racism and a white person was laughing in their face and insulting them, you would be on that person's side.
00:29:28.000 But because it's Tim Pool, you want to be mad at him.
00:29:31.000 And I was like, wow.
00:29:32.000 And then Vaush went on to say, Tim Poole is a conservative, and then of course that means he's racist.
00:29:36.000 And I was like, oh, come on.
00:29:37.000 Come on, so close.
00:29:38.000 You're so close.
00:29:39.000 And then I go, and then he presses play, and I go, I want to abolish the police!
00:29:43.000 And he goes, thank you, Tim.
00:29:44.000 And I'm like, bro, the problem is, everybody shared one small clip.
00:29:49.000 So the narrative becomes something untethered to reality.
00:29:53.000 If any one of these people would just actually take their heads out of the sand and consume media to better understand it, then a lot of this might stop happening.
00:30:02.000 But the other issue is, when it came to the actual conversation with R.A., many of these people don't agree that he is being racist because in their new moral framework, or lack thereof, White people are allowed to insult people who are not white, and that's not racism so long as their ideology is in line with the tribe or the cult.
00:30:27.000 So when they say racist, what they're really saying is deviant.
00:30:30.000 They're saying, you're a deviant, you're a deviant.
00:30:32.000 So when I call him a deviant, people go, no he's not!
00:30:35.000 He's perfectly in line with wokeness.
00:30:37.000 So to them, they're hearing me basic- Like, they don't hear the word racist the way we do.
00:30:42.000 When I say to him, you're a racist, I'm saying, you literally said that you would judge someone based on the content- You would judge someone on the color of their skin.
00:30:50.000 To me, you're being racist when you discriminate against someone on their race.
00:30:53.000 To them, racist just means you are a deviant from our ideology.
00:30:58.000 If you were a media darling, and Ari was in here with a MAGA hat, and he accused you of laughter, they would have said, Tim Poole, Asian podcaster, to make sure we all knew he's a victim.
00:31:10.000 Let me explain something.
00:31:11.000 One of the jokes that we make on the show every so often is that blonde-haired, blue-eyed Luke Rutkowski is a person of color, and literal second-generation mixed-race Tim Poole is white.
00:31:20.000 I'm like, I don't even know what is going on in their brains.
00:31:25.000 But I think it's fair to say what they're really saying is deviant when they say racists are white supremacists.
00:31:31.000 You brought up this point.
00:31:33.000 Would you happen to have the old definition and the new definition by any chance?
00:31:36.000 Because I think I saw something online.
00:31:38.000 I don't know where to look.
00:31:39.000 Of racism?
00:31:40.000 Of the term racism.
00:31:42.000 um not that i mean not the exact definition but off the top of my head i believe it was something more along the lines of what we generally believe that it's just hate or prejudice because of somebody's race or skin color now i think at least one dictionary and just in many schools of thought like in academia you'll see the definition be changed to it's uh it's like it's prejudice and prejudice plus power so black people can't be racist because They could be prejudiced but they don't have power in today's white supremacist racist system so black people therefore can't be racist and white people can't be victims of racism because they have the power and the prejudice so they're just nothing nothing just comes at them.
00:32:21.000 And then Luke isn't white because Slavic people experienced oppression Asian people in America are white because they have high
00:32:30.000 incomes on average so
00:32:32.000 They've turned white into an ideology. It's a boogeyman Well, if you look at history history is filled with
00:32:38.000 oppression whether you're you're Chinese or Japanese or Korean or Polish?
00:32:43.000 You look, you know people have been screwed over throughout historically
00:32:47.000 But you know, do you see people leveraging that for their own kind of purposes or excuses? It's it's
00:32:53.000 To me, it's like thinking low of somebody, and it's thinking low of yourself.
00:32:58.000 And I think some of it is done deliberately.
00:33:00.000 This is just my perspective.
00:33:02.000 I might be wrong.
00:33:02.000 Someone might be able to convince me that I'm wrong.
00:33:05.000 But for me, I think something that really does oppress people is saying continually, You're oppressed.
00:33:13.000 And when you keep putting that into someone's mind, they create an identity that is oppressed, that does believe that they have lack of opportunities, and that kind of mindset, that kind of idea, that kind of larger consciousness that you're putting out there to your regular life, that you're manifesting, that you're creating, is creating that of lack, of being the victim.
00:33:34.000 I want to chase this deviant idea, too, because there was something else that came up yesterday in the show that exemplifies this.
00:33:40.000 When I was trying to explain that this world is comprised of many people with different worldviews, R.A.' 's response was, I said, your worldview?
00:33:49.000 He said, yeah, reality.
00:33:51.000 And so here's what I think happens.
00:33:54.000 He believes he's in the moral majority.
00:33:58.000 He believes that his ideas are represented by most people or that he's on the side of good or whatever.
00:34:05.000 But a lot of these people don't seem to realize that when you have, you know, 80 million people voting one way and 80 million people voting the other, certainly there are two distinct, you know, perceptions, or I should say overarching perceptions.
00:34:17.000 So for me, when I started getting into this work and, I mean, just doing journalism in general, I remember, I went, during Occupy Wall Street, there was a pro-life rally at the federal building by Wall Street, by the stock exchange.
00:34:29.000 And we went and we saw these people and we saw them waving their flags and I listened to what they said.
00:34:33.000 And my attitude's always been like, if we're talking about helping the working class, that means recognizing that half the working class are conservative and half are, you know, left or whatever.
00:34:43.000 And that means we really need to understand where people are in general, not just one side of things.
00:34:48.000 But too many of these people think 99% of the country is them, and there's this weird, deviant group of people.
00:34:55.000 So when they say you're a racist, they're saying you are not in line with the moral majority, which is us.
00:35:01.000 Our ideology is correct.
00:35:04.000 And then when I try and point something out, like, there are 80 million people who roll the other direction from you and don't agree with you, They just, they say that's not true.
00:35:12.000 They don't believe it, they reject that, or they say, well those people are wrong and crazy or grifters or liars.
00:35:16.000 And it's like, that's why you'll often hear people say that the right thinks the left is misguided, but the left thinks the right is evil.
00:35:22.000 I think that's starting to change now with many on the right, many, and the funny thing too is the right is not just right-wing, it's also comprised of the center.
00:35:30.000 Like, if you actually look at Pew's research on this, which is hilarious, the stressed sideline, they call it, apolitical individuals lean right.
00:35:38.000 And it's because the left has gone off the rails.
00:35:40.000 When you look at that Axios poll we looked at last week that shows young Democrats are overwhelmingly antagonistic based on politics and not conservatives, we can see whatever is happening, it's happening as an effect of modern left culture or whatever.
00:35:55.000 And I think it's working brilliantly to the benefit of the special interests that really kind of pull the strings, that really kind of set the news stories, that set the agenda, that set the narrative.
00:36:04.000 Because let's call a spade a spade here.
00:36:07.000 There's a lot of things you and Ari agreed on.
00:36:10.000 There's so many things that the government does that you weren't happy about.
00:36:13.000 I know.
00:36:13.000 I know.
00:36:14.000 But hold on.
00:36:15.000 Let me just get to this point.
00:36:17.000 There's so many things you guys had in common, especially with your visions and your ideas and your beliefs and things that you went through that was outside of the established narrative.
00:36:26.000 But on this point, it brought you two guys towards a very tense, angry moment between each other.
00:36:31.000 That's how powerful and divisive a lot of this stuff is, where even if you could see eye to eye on a lot of stuff, you still fight each other.
00:36:38.000 That's crazy amount of power.
00:36:40.000 and division. Uh-uh. I gotta stop you there, bro. When R.A.
00:36:43.000 says to me, you think you've got it worse than black people in this country? And I go,
00:36:47.000 and I said, no, I agree with you.
00:36:50.000 I actually did work on this subject. And then he says it again, three times. I'm like, bro,
00:36:54.000 I don't know how many times I need to tell you. I agree with you on that. But for him
00:36:58.000 to just be like, no one is allowed to talk about racism because of the black struggle.
00:37:03.000 I'm like this dude, you cannot reason with.
00:37:06.000 I literally tell him, you are correct.
00:37:08.000 I agree with you.
00:37:09.000 Critical race theory should not be banned in schools.
00:37:11.000 It's just the practice of it.
00:37:12.000 He goes, okay, all right.
00:37:13.000 How many times does he need to say something?
00:37:15.000 He goes, y'all called Kyle Rittenhouse a hero.
00:37:17.000 And I said, we never did that.
00:37:18.000 And he went, okay, okay.
00:37:20.000 I'm like, how many times do I need to reach out and say, I agree with you, I agree with you, I agree with you, but he didn't, he, he, it's like, it's, it's not, it's, it's, it's, that's why I'm saying it's about being a deviant.
00:37:30.000 It's about not being in line with our orthodoxy.
00:37:32.000 So that's what they're calling you.
00:37:34.000 Yes.
00:37:35.000 By and large, what I was saying, you said it more eloquently and a lot better than I did, because again, There was terms of agreement, but it still led to confrontation, which to me is mind-boggling of how they were able to control the narrative in a way where it still leads to no understanding in a fighting, and that to me deserves to be pointed out.
00:37:53.000 But listen, I think we all understood him.
00:37:57.000 I think we were all analytical as to things, like, we analyzed the things he had been saying.
00:38:02.000 He talks about news in a way where he didn't understand things.
00:38:05.000 He was talking about how we didn't know what critical race theory was, and I gave him just a very generalized, here's one of the authors, here's what they've stated, here's what they believe, because I read this stuff.
00:38:15.000 And full disclosure, when we had Vosch on the first time, I was miserable in trying to break down what critical race theory was, and I think Vosch made a great point when he was like, you don't know what you're talking about.
00:38:26.000 And I said, well, my view of it is the cultural, like, wokeness and stuff.
00:38:30.000 But you know what?
00:38:31.000 I absolutely owned up to that and said, it's a good point.
00:38:33.000 I should not use a phrase that I have not read the literature on.
00:38:36.000 So I pulled up the book from Kimberly Crenshaw and I started reading.
00:38:39.000 Did not read the whole thing.
00:38:40.000 I read the first few bits of it to understand the origins of it.
00:38:44.000 I read quotes and comments from Derrick Bell.
00:38:46.000 I read some D'Angelo and some Ibram X. Kendi.
00:38:48.000 And I'm still not going to pretend to be an expert.
00:38:51.000 But for someone to come in here, Say these things, and for me to be like, which of these authors do you agree with?
00:38:56.000 And him to be like, I don't know, I have no idea, I don't know anything about it.
00:38:59.000 I'm like, okay, here's a problem.
00:39:01.000 If I'm gonna tell you that there's a lot of this stuff we agree on, but no matter how much we try to come to you, to your side, and say, we wanna rectify this, you still just say, you guys are racists, you guys are white supremacists, you are bootlickers.
00:39:17.000 There is no, there is no coming together, there's no compromise, there's no resolving this bridge.
00:39:23.000 I'll just stress this point again.
00:39:25.000 When I'm literally like, you are right, and I agree with you.
00:39:28.000 And the response from the other side is, I don't care, screw you, you're a lying piece of crap.
00:39:32.000 I'm just like, alright, that's it.
00:39:34.000 It's conflict.
00:39:35.000 The divide is real, and it's very strong.
00:39:37.000 I'm trying to stay positive.
00:39:39.000 But I was going to ask, is there anything that could bridge this divide?
00:39:42.000 Is there anything possible?
00:39:43.000 I think so.
00:39:44.000 I met a lady yesterday, total stranger in her 70s, a nice lady.
00:39:48.000 We agreed on books and music and we were there looking at some stuff and there was another gentleman there who I don't really know but she knew and she pulled me to the side and said he's an anti-vaxxer and I was like, oh wow.
00:39:59.000 Everyone can do whatever they want.
00:40:00.000 I'm okay.
00:40:01.000 I didn't mind.
00:40:02.000 And she kept trying to get politics out of me and she was trying to like find labels and how to like pigeonhole me next, right?
00:40:09.000 And then 30 minutes later, she says, I wish every Republican would drop dead.
00:40:15.000 Just like that.
00:40:16.000 And she was totally fine.
00:40:17.000 It was normal.
00:40:17.000 Like she could say it to a stranger.
00:40:19.000 And I'm like, well, that's a horrible thing to say.
00:40:20.000 And I was like, I think, I think you are putting labels on too many people.
00:40:25.000 And you're hearing certain words like that, you know, he didn't want the vaccines.
00:40:28.000 Now he's all these things.
00:40:30.000 Maybe he's racist in your mind, a MAGA support or whatever.
00:40:33.000 And I'm like, if you just take the labels away and talk to people about the real problems, you will probably agree on lots of things like what Tim and RA were talking about.
00:40:39.000 And then she was like, you know, I did have an hour long conversation with this man.
00:40:42.000 He was very nice.
00:40:43.000 But once you said the vaccine thing, all the alarms went off in her head that she would hear the buzzwords on CNN.
00:40:50.000 And I think if you start to strip away labels, like that's why that when I see words like woke, I hate words like that.
00:40:56.000 I'm so sick of words like that because it automatically makes anyone who agrees with woke stuff and who doesn't agree with it want to fight about it.
00:41:05.000 Just strip away those stupid words, I think.
00:41:07.000 I think we use too many bad words like cancel culture and woke.
00:41:09.000 There's a compulsive need to label people, though.
00:41:12.000 People try to do the same thing to me all the time.
00:41:14.000 And even when they find out what I believe in, there's still no label to put on it.
00:41:17.000 So then they get even more frustrated.
00:41:19.000 But I need to know.
00:41:20.000 I think it's getting worse, actually, the compulsive need to label people.
00:41:22.000 But I need to know, like, how do we combat that?
00:41:24.000 Like, how do we change the messaging to where to the point where people don't feel the need to be like, hey, like, what do you believe about that?
00:41:30.000 And then immediately assume your political party or assume everything else.
00:41:34.000 It's like gang members.
00:41:35.000 It's like, are you a bloke?
00:41:36.000 Are you a crip?
00:41:36.000 Are we going to stab you for real?
00:41:40.000 Luke and I, we went to the Peace Wall in Northern Ireland, and I really recommend people go to Belfast and look at the Peace Wall.
00:41:47.000 It will be a shock to your system.
00:41:49.000 And I mentioned this a lot when I went there, when we were there, and there's like, on one side it's pro-Israel, on the other side it's pro-Palestine, and I was just, I was confused, and I asked this guy who was there, I was like, I don't understand, like, what does the Irish conflict have to do with Israel and Palestine?
00:42:03.000 And the dude said, whatever idea one side adopts, the other side takes the opposite stance.
00:42:09.000 It's just tribalism.
00:42:11.000 And it's neighbors living next to each other with huge walls dividing them.
00:42:15.000 Literally neighbors rioting and fighting each other.
00:42:18.000 to the point where they're killing each other.
00:42:21.000 And they're neighbors, they live in the same kind of country, they kind of have the same identity, they have a different kind of religious point of view, but that divide is so strong and crazy where they literally burn effigies of other people's belief systems and representatives in celebration in defiance of the other side.
00:42:40.000 So that was a surreal experience to see that larger kind of, some people call it a festival, That literally leads to marches and fights and riots in Northern Ireland, which was absolutely crazy to see and experience myself.
00:42:54.000 That's just one small area relative to the rest of the world.
00:42:57.000 And this kind of thing is gripping the entire U.S.
00:43:00.000 Like you saying the lady said she wished Republicans would all just drop dead.
00:43:03.000 Look, I think there's a lot of really great things to focus on in terms of freedom.
00:43:09.000 Gun rights are being strengthened.
00:43:12.000 But there's also, you know, I'm not trying to be a downer.
00:43:16.000 I do think that freedom and individualism is actually gaining a lot of ground in a lot of different ways.
00:43:22.000 But I also think the hyperpolarization is becoming more and more enraged.
00:43:27.000 Like, like the way there's a story you, as you explained it, people are just getting angry.
00:43:31.000 Like, I don't care.
00:43:33.000 I just hate.
00:43:35.000 And that's scary.
00:43:35.000 That's the victim.
00:43:36.000 She's a victim of the corporate press.
00:43:38.000 They fed her fear.
00:43:39.000 But it's more than that too.
00:43:40.000 I mean, so one of the things that R.I.
00:43:43.000 said at the beginning of the show is that he said something to the effect of everything is extremely, all these media outlets are extremely divisive and we're doing the exact same thing here on this show.
00:43:52.000 And I said, you're right.
00:43:54.000 I agree.
00:43:55.000 We talk about that.
00:43:56.000 When we see MSNBC say that, you know, Ron DeSantis is codifying white supremacy or whatever garbage, and then we criticize them, and NewsBusters says they're known for insane, vile commentary and all that stuff, yeah, we're sitting here with a bunch of people listening and they're gonna be like, I don't like MSNBC and what they do.
00:44:12.000 And then we're gonna get people who are only gonna take small clips of this show and then do the counter of saying, look at what they're saying, they're vile, racist, or whatever, and all it does is create echo chambers where everyone hates each other more and more and more.
00:44:23.000 I suppose the one difference is one side is objectively correct.
00:44:27.000 And that side is whatever this side is.
00:44:29.000 And it's not the right.
00:44:30.000 It's not libertarian.
00:44:32.000 It's just literally there are people who are right and people who are wrong.
00:44:35.000 And if you look at the Jussie Smollett story, the Covington kids, Nick Sammon stuff.
00:44:39.000 You look at Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:44:40.000 You look at Russiagate.
00:44:41.000 You look at Ukrainegate.
00:44:41.000 Did I say Russiagate?
00:44:42.000 Two impeachments.
00:44:44.000 Wow!
00:44:44.000 One side is objectively wrong all the time.
00:44:47.000 What do I get criticism for?
00:44:49.000 Bad predictions.
00:44:50.000 Bad predictions are different from factual errors.
00:44:53.000 If I see the stock market doing really, really well and then say, I think Donald Trump's going to nail this election and that COVID happens and he doesn't, that's just me not realizing a pandemic was going to happen.
00:45:03.000 But when you say Donald Trump colluded with Russia and he literally did not, or you claim these kids were getting in the face of a Native American and they literally did not, you live in a twisted, malformed, decayed reality.
00:45:16.000 And then if you become hateful and vile and angry or violent because of it, yeah, one side is dangerous.
00:45:23.000 And when you have a horde of angry zombies, how do you deal with it?
00:45:27.000 That's a good question.
00:45:28.000 I'm running to the woods.
00:45:29.000 I'm going deep in the woods.
00:45:32.000 That's literally what I did.
00:45:33.000 I left New York City, went to the middle of the woods of New Hampshire, joined the Free State Project.
00:45:37.000 But but is there anything that could help and again, I made this argument.
00:45:41.000 I don't think we should call them zombies Because there are people who could go back from that state from that state of watching the corporate media to waking up zombies You can't bring back to life when it comes to corporate media heads who who watch the the fear-based mind control people could come back from that and People could come to an understanding and say, hey, I could see that.
00:46:01.000 So I don't think we should call them zombies because I think that kind of furthers the divide.
00:46:05.000 But let's just call them zombies for now.
00:46:07.000 Is there anything bringing them back to life?
00:46:09.000 And is there anything that could heal the divide?
00:46:10.000 Yes.
00:46:12.000 But I think when I say zombie, I'm referring to the people who are totally zombified.
00:46:16.000 I think there's some people that you just can't bring back no matter how you try to reason with them, no matter what type of facts you put in front of them, as was demonstrated.
00:46:23.000 I mean, you can agree with something, everything that they're saying, basically, and they're still gonna call you a white supremacist, racist, based off of these new made-up definitions and terms.
00:46:32.000 And they could be they could literally be a white person sitting here yelling at you that they could I've had white people call me I'm anti-black and that I'm racist and that I hate myself and I have internalized racism and misogyny and all those types of stuff and I can sit here and look at them and laugh at them and be like and just ask them to explain themselves and they can't it's just because like Tim said it's just I like the word deviant it's just because I'm deviant.
00:46:51.000 Yeah, but there is a political transformation.
00:46:53.000 There is a political change, and it happens in some people, even Tucker Carlson.
00:46:57.000 But it goes both ways.
00:46:58.000 Pro-establishment, of course.
00:47:00.000 Pro-establishment, pro-war, CNN, MSNBC, toting the line, repeating the speeches.
00:47:07.000 Now he criticizes the Republicans, criticizes the Democrats, criticizes the intelligence agencies, and does something that— Agrees with Glenn Greenwald?
00:47:14.000 Yeah!
00:47:16.000 Has Glenn Greenwald on his show, and Tulsi Gabbard on his show all the time, and rages against the kind of intelligence state.
00:47:25.000 It's a new political faction.
00:47:26.000 So, like, some people would consider him a zombie that has turned a zombie lord to someone who has come back to life and is now helping people awaken from this zombiness.
00:47:39.000 There's an article that Daily Dot wrote about what happened here.
00:47:42.000 And it was just, like, it's crazy how they just don't watch the show.
00:47:46.000 They don't care to get the facts straight.
00:47:48.000 But one of the things they point out is that in the clip, I highlighted a documentary I did on Ferguson.
00:47:52.000 And, you know, the black community was going through with going on tour and racism.
00:47:55.000 And they said, but Tim Poole failed to mention that he made that before his politics did a 180.
00:48:00.000 So let's assess that real quick.
00:48:03.000 If I literally pull up a documentary I made seven years ago and say, I completely agree with this message for the documentary that I put together seven years ago, how have my politics changed if I'm literally like, this exemplifies my view on systemic racism?
00:48:19.000 Quite literally, it's the same political opinion as when the documentary was made.
00:48:23.000 And I'll tell you this, too.
00:48:25.000 They wanted me to say a line in that documentary I did not say.
00:48:28.000 The final line of the documentary was that the police of St.
00:48:33.000 Louis were created by and the descendants of slave catcher patrols.
00:48:40.000 And I was like, that's a little too much, guys.
00:48:43.000 And it's not necessarily untrue in some contexts, but it's mostly not true.
00:48:48.000 There are some police departments where they started as slave catching.
00:48:53.000 And then most police departments, and I looked all this up, they were just ideas and institutions that were adopted from, I think, France and other European countries that we decided to implement here as we expanded Sheriff's Department and law enforcement.
00:49:06.000 So I'm like, that goes too far.
00:49:07.000 That's what they wanted in it.
00:49:09.000 So, my politics haven't changed on this.
00:49:12.000 But it's really interesting because what that means is, this group of people revolt, like, they moved around me.
00:49:20.000 So here I am in this position on the left, and the establishment media moves to the left where I stay in the same position, and now they're like, look, he spun a 180!
00:49:27.000 And I'm like, yo, it's you guys who wrapped all the way around the other direction.
00:49:31.000 How is it that I'm gonna defend this, and you're gonna claim I disagree with it?
00:49:35.000 They move so far left that you look far right.
00:49:38.000 And I haven't moved anywhere.
00:49:39.000 I'm always just like, hey, it's wrong to be racist.
00:49:43.000 I gotta say, this is why I'm really pessimistic.
00:49:48.000 At the end of the member segment, I said, I think racism will never go away.
00:49:51.000 And it was because of people like RA.
00:49:53.000 It was because he is a white guy who claims white people are privileged, Who thinks he's justified as a white man to tell minorities what to do and laugh at them when people talk about their problems or experiences of racism, he laughs in their face.
00:50:09.000 And I was like, why would that go away?
00:50:12.000 So this is a guy who, in every respect, a hundred years ago probably would have been a white supremacist.
00:50:18.000 A hundred years ago, this country was overwhelmingly white supremacist.
00:50:22.000 And now, today, many people have adopted the more civil rights view and have become more accepting and more understanding.
00:50:29.000 And he's still of the mindset, and it's not just him, I don't mean to single him out, it's the woke, that they, as the white savior, the privileged race, has the right to determine what minorities should be doing.
00:50:39.000 And I'm like, what changed?
00:50:41.000 What about white supremacy has changed?
00:50:42.000 And these people are still doing it.
00:50:43.000 Yeah.
00:50:44.000 I think that's why it's important to be considerate of your virtues and not just change on every issue based on your gang affiliation or the level of political power you're going to gain for standing on this side or acceptance from larger society.
00:50:58.000 I mean, I always, throughout my journalism career, always said, okay, what are my virtues?
00:51:03.000 What do I represent?
00:51:04.000 What ideas am I going to go out there to the general public?
00:51:07.000 And to me, it was always anti-war.
00:51:09.000 Freedom, privacy, the rights of individuals over the collective.
00:51:12.000 And I always stood on those virtues, but I've been called a right-wing racist tea bagger by Chris Matthews of MSNBC.
00:51:23.000 Bill O'Reilly said We Are Change is a jihad-loving leftist liberal organization.
00:51:30.000 And I got slandered for it, but my position has never changed.
00:51:34.000 When Obama was in power, I was called a conservative.
00:51:37.000 When Bush was in power, I was called a liberal.
00:51:40.000 And again, I don't believe in any of that gang affiliation.
00:51:43.000 Your virtues should matter more.
00:51:45.000 Luke has one political position.
00:51:47.000 Freedom.
00:51:47.000 The government sucks.
00:51:48.000 Yes, absolutely.
00:51:49.000 I'm with you.
00:51:50.000 I'm with you.
00:51:50.000 I'm all for that.
00:51:51.000 Abolish taxes.
00:51:52.000 All of them.
00:51:53.000 Immediately.
00:51:54.000 I'm in New York where we have new mandates now for the mask.
00:51:57.000 It's crazy.
00:51:58.000 And it's just like, if you have kids and you love your kids, you hate your government if they try to get between you and your kids.
00:52:04.000 Exactly.
00:52:04.000 And they're trying to wear it.
00:52:06.000 I mean, they had like five-year-olds running around outside this summer, 90-degree weather, with the masks on.
00:52:12.000 I'm like, you guys are waterboarding these kids, basically.
00:52:14.000 So what is the option for New Yorkers?
00:52:16.000 Like, what do you- Leave.
00:52:17.000 Leave?
00:52:18.000 I think most of them like it.
00:52:19.000 You can't fight?
00:52:19.000 I think most of them in the city area like it.
00:52:22.000 Let's pull up a story real quick to get some context here.
00:52:23.000 We have this from TimCast.com.
00:52:25.000 De Blasio says people will be forced to accept COVID vaccines if their, quote, paychecks depend on it.
00:52:31.000 This dude was giving an interview and he basically said, I will destroy your life to get you to do what we want you to do.
00:52:40.000 And I was just like, if you want to live in that city and you want to live under his boot and lick it, they like it.
00:52:46.000 Feel free to do it!
00:52:47.000 If you want to call anything white supremacy, that's it right there.
00:52:51.000 If you look at the Vax mandates, who it predominantly affects, the consequences of it, especially in New York City, especially with people of color.
00:53:00.000 Holy frickin' cow!
00:53:01.000 His name is Wilhelm.
00:53:02.000 I just call him Bozo the Clown.
00:53:06.000 Should we call him Kaiser?
00:53:08.000 I am absolutely flabbergasted that he still has any political power.
00:53:14.000 One of my favorite images of this year, videos really, is him alone in Times Square dancing with his wife.
00:53:21.000 When everyone was not allowed to be in there.
00:53:23.000 Everyone was told, get away, you're not allowed to come to Times Square.
00:53:27.000 Only the special elites, only the people who give out the orders will be Celebrating and dancing in the middle of it as the order followers will kick everyone out.
00:53:38.000 It was disgusting.
00:53:39.000 Look at this!
00:53:39.000 And the New York Times made that one of the photos of the year that they were celebrating and toting as something great.
00:53:44.000 They didn't show Bill de Blasio dancing there by himself with his wife with police officers protecting them.
00:53:50.000 Meanwhile, the governor's a mass murderer.
00:53:53.000 They kicked out everyone from Times Square and then they had their private dance.
00:53:57.000 So you can have a little prom night.
00:53:58.000 That's cute.
00:54:01.000 I think I think I like your point that people with kids, people with families should leave.
00:54:06.000 There's really nothing that they could do.
00:54:07.000 I will not fault anybody for leaving if there's really nothing else they can do.
00:54:12.000 But I did write a piece for Tim Cass.
00:54:14.000 It was in August, I think it was called Here's How New Yorkers Can Fight Back Against Medical Mandates, where I interviewed somebody from the New York Young Republican Club.
00:54:21.000 and they talked about basically how they're staging sit-ins and anti-mass protests and
00:54:28.000 rallies and I think non-compliance is a truly American virtue.
00:54:32.000 It's what basically birthed this country and birthed this nation and I would hate to just
00:54:37.000 have everyone retreat when I think there is a silent majority.
00:54:41.000 I think it's time for them to speak up.
00:54:43.000 And I know everyone's so tired of everyone saying, oh, silent majority, silent majority.
00:54:46.000 But I think it's a real thing.
00:54:48.000 And I think people are scared.
00:54:49.000 And if you can afford to not leave, and if you can afford to not comply, I think you should.
00:54:55.000 I totally agree.
00:54:56.000 Were they in the city?
00:54:58.000 Yep.
00:54:58.000 Yeah.
00:54:59.000 So the city is a whole different world from the rest of New York.
00:55:02.000 I said this last time.
00:55:03.000 New York City is a little pea at the bottom of the state that kind of dictates the policy for the rest of this giant state.
00:55:10.000 And they vote sometimes overwhelmingly red while the city votes blue.
00:55:13.000 I would hope for non-compliance if you can.
00:55:16.000 That's the way to go for sure.
00:55:17.000 Non-violent civil disobedience.
00:55:19.000 It's as simple as people just being like, no.
00:55:20.000 Just say no.
00:55:21.000 And then nothing.
00:55:22.000 We will not comply.
00:55:23.000 It's like a perfect American phrase and it's just like we forgot about it or we attributed it to like white supremacists or something.
00:55:28.000 Ben Shapiro did not forget.
00:55:30.000 Daily Wire guys did not forget.
00:55:31.000 Yeah, that's like they're all their, you know, logo, icons, avatars or whatever, do not comply, we will not comply.
00:55:37.000 It's crazy how... But they also retreated.
00:55:40.000 You know, like they left a state that was pretty dystopian, like New York.
00:55:43.000 But it's good to say not comply.
00:55:45.000 But I also think I don't blame them at all.
00:55:46.000 So cities, I don't blame them at all.
00:55:48.000 It's kind of an FU, and it sends a message to the state.
00:55:51.000 I think it's kind of good in some sense, because it does send a message.
00:55:55.000 And I think that people are going to look at that and be like, hey, we need to make a change,
00:55:58.000 or hey, something's up.
00:55:59.000 Some people argue that you're voting with your feet.
00:56:02.000 By staying in New York City, you're paying their taxes, you're part of their workforce, you're
00:56:07.000 incentivizing people to say, I will control every aspect of your life, and you will obey,
00:56:11.000 and you will live underneath my boot.
00:56:13.000 I'm going to go to Florida.
00:56:13.000 No, I won't.
00:56:14.000 I'm going to go to New Hampshire.
00:56:16.000 I'm going to go to West Virginia.
00:56:17.000 I'm going to go to Texas.
00:56:18.000 I'm going to go where my rights are respected, where my money actually goes towards the greater good and doesn't Go towards discriminating against people doesn't go towards giving people less opportunities because they didn't do a procedure that the government bureaucrat wanted them to do and it's it's sickening what's happening in New York City and there are some people standing up.
00:56:38.000 There was recently a large number of people arrested because they went to restaurants and they said hey.
00:56:43.000 We're not gonna comply with the whims of government.
00:56:45.000 We're not gonna ask the government permission and get their permission slip to eat here.
00:56:49.000 And they were asked to leave, they said no, and they did sit-ins.
00:56:52.000 Cops came in, they followed orders, and they arrested them.
00:56:55.000 Isn't this weird?
00:56:57.000 It's just so weird that the way politics is evolving in this country.
00:57:03.000 I've always been on the side of businesses should grant access to public accommodation for members of the public.
00:57:11.000 But now it's crazy to see many people on the right arguing that.
00:57:15.000 You know what I mean?
00:57:16.000 Like before, it's just... I don't know, man.
00:57:20.000 I saw a really crazy image of a vaccine warehouse being burned down.
00:57:25.000 And someone on the right being like, this is how you stick it to authoritarianism, whatever.
00:57:29.000 And I'm like, bro, that's an Antifa tweet!
00:57:32.000 I'm like, what is going on?
00:57:34.000 I think that the difference there is their anger is rooted in something that's really happening.
00:57:38.000 And sometimes Antifa are riding, they're riding over manipulated realities, you know, like inflated numbers of, you know, deaths, whatever.
00:57:46.000 You know, like I had a friend who would tell me like thousands of black men die, you know, a year by cops.
00:57:51.000 And I'm like, I don't know if that's a number.
00:57:53.000 It's like 23.
00:57:54.000 I would show her the number.
00:57:55.000 She would say, well, the numbers are systemically racist.
00:57:58.000 And I was like, and then I'm racist for showing her the systemically racist.
00:58:00.000 Oh my, oh my goodness.
00:58:01.000 I had, I had a friend and, uh, they were posting stuff about the migrant crisis.
00:58:07.000 That was wrong.
00:58:08.000 So I took the refugee document from the UN website, sent her the link, and said, hey, just FYI, what's going on here is X, Y, and Z. So there's three Mediterranean routes.
00:58:21.000 There's the Western, the Central, and the Eastern.
00:58:23.000 I don't think it's called Central, but there was three routes.
00:58:25.000 One goes through Spain, one goes from Libya through Italy, and then one goes through Greece through Lesvos.
00:58:30.000 And I was just like, the people who are coming in through Greece are the refugees from Afghanistan and Iraq, and the people who are coming from the central and western routes are economic migrants from Nigeria and other countries.
00:58:40.000 And then she just said, screw you, and blocked me.
00:58:44.000 And I was like, I don't know what just happened!
00:58:46.000 She slapped your microphone.
00:58:48.000 I didn't insult her, I didn't call her name.
00:58:50.000 I had one friend, this was crazy, someone I talked to all the time, we hung out a lot in New York, who told me that they now believed in conversion therapy because they, so this is crazy, right, check this out.
00:59:01.000 If you talk to someone on the left, they will cheer when you hear someone say, you know, like Canada has banned conversion therapy.
00:59:07.000 They'll go like, yay!
00:59:09.000 And I'm talking to this friend, she's a woman, And she was saying that it was transphobic for people to not want to date people of the same sex if they were transgender.
00:59:20.000 And so I was like, hold on, I'm trying to understand you.
00:59:24.000 So I was like, you're a woman and you're attracted to men.
00:59:26.000 And she was like, yes.
00:59:28.000 And I said, so you're saying that you personally are attracted to people who are biologically female, who have female genitalia, but have transitioned.
00:59:37.000 And she said, no.
00:59:39.000 And I said, so do you think that's transphobic?
00:59:40.000 And she said, well, I could learn to like it.
00:59:43.000 And I said, isn't that conversion therapy?
00:59:45.000 That sounds like grooming.
00:59:47.000 Like trying to convert someone's sexuality.
00:59:50.000 And then she got really mad and said, no, you're being transphobic.
00:59:52.000 And I was like, I thought you were being transphobic.
00:59:55.000 I was like, all I did was genuinely ask.
00:59:57.000 She blocked me.
00:59:57.000 Yeah.
00:59:58.000 But to be fair, she deleted all of our social media and said, I can't take this anymore.
01:00:02.000 And I think what really happened is, like when we talk with RA, these are people who are on Facebook.
01:00:08.000 These are people who are on Twitter.
01:00:10.000 And they get a worldview bubble, a bubble world from the group they follow.
01:00:14.000 This is what people need to understand.
01:00:15.000 Who you follow on Twitter, if you're active on Twitter, is shaping your reality, and it can be distorting it.
01:00:21.000 So they say, like, like, so I follow a lot of conservative personalities, a lot of leftist and liberal personalities.
01:00:27.000 I follow Hasan, I follow Vosh, I folly, uh, I folly, I follow a few other people.
01:00:31.000 I don't wanna get anyone else dragged.
01:00:32.000 They're, they're famous, so I'll leave it there.
01:00:33.000 But a few other, like, lesser well-known leftist journalists, as well as all the mainstream publications, Vice, And that way I'm seeing what they're saying, I'm seeing what other people are saying, and I get a view of both groups.
01:00:46.000 But a lot of these people, like this former friend of mine, was probably only on Facebook in a group of friends who were all regurgitating the same woke garbage.
01:00:56.000 And then when I simply asked questions, I think what really happened was she realized the world she lived in on Facebook was not real, and she couldn't take the pressure of it anymore and deleted it.
01:01:08.000 I would even go further. It's not who you follow. It's who the big tech algorithms decide you see because now it doesn't
01:01:15.000 even matter because they curate a lot of the timelines.
01:01:18.000 Twitter is still one of the few places where you actually see the people you actually follow, but most social media,
01:01:23.000 especially Facebook and Instagram, they have a carefully curated algorithm that they have even done psychological
01:01:29.000 studies on that could create certain emotional outcomes.
01:01:33.000 And I think there's a correlation between the mental and wellness of just people going down dramatically with the onset of social media.
01:01:43.000 But it's not just our personal well-being that's being affected here.
01:01:47.000 It's not just our mental health.
01:01:49.000 It's also our political discourse which is being bastardized.
01:01:52.000 And I think the echo chambers that are created That echo chambers that many people blindly follow because also, as you mentioned to him, you try to get different perspectives, but a lot of people don't.
01:02:01.000 A lot of people don't want to see different perspectives.
01:02:03.000 They want to see their perspective regurgitated to them from different kinds of points of view.
01:02:08.000 Re-establishing the same idea.
01:02:08.000 They also might not have time.
01:02:10.000 Reinforcing that idea.
01:02:11.000 I gotta pull something out that's really funny.
01:02:15.000 But, you know, keep talking.
01:02:16.000 I think I think this is my crazy wacky theory is Facebook years ago.
01:02:20.000 Remember that debate over if it's a blue dress or a gold dress?
01:02:23.000 Yeah.
01:02:23.000 That was us getting prepped for the fracturing of reality.
01:02:27.000 Who believes what?
01:02:28.000 And they're just back there.
01:02:29.000 They're judging.
01:02:30.000 Who does what?
01:02:31.000 You should do a report on that.
01:02:32.000 I can't do it with Facebook and Instagram now.
01:02:34.000 I think I'm shadowbanned on Instagram.
01:02:35.000 Even when people do see my post, half the time it has that warning over it like, fact checkers, I've deemed this false.
01:02:40.000 And it'll be like the most mundane thing.
01:02:41.000 It's a badge of honor.
01:02:43.000 It's not even like crazy.
01:02:44.000 I saw something on Twitter earlier with someone talking smack on vaccine mandates and right below it was a promoted Pfizer tweet.
01:02:50.000 Let me pull up this story for you guys.
01:02:53.000 Tim Pool confirmed leftist.
01:02:55.000 This is from ground.news, blindspotter, and it says 53% of the news TimCast interacts with on Twitter leans left.
01:03:03.000 Top three influencers are Vosh, Michael Malice, and Jack Posobiec.
01:03:08.000 Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
01:03:11.000 Now, to be fair, the reason why it says most of the news I interact with leans left is because it's the New York Times, it's CNN, it's Newsweek.
01:03:20.000 These are mainstream news publications.
01:03:23.000 They lean left.
01:03:24.000 The media has a leftist bias, or a liberal bias.
01:03:27.000 Michael Malice is slightly leaning left with a big, you know, right wing right there.
01:03:31.000 Vosh is overwhelmingly left and Jack is overwhelmingly right.
01:03:34.000 This right here is really fascinating.
01:03:36.000 First of all, I'm obviously not a leftist, but I think it's fair to say that on policy issues and certain issues, I am center-left libertarian, a little difference in opinion from Luke in some ways.
01:03:48.000 But when you look at Vaush, His worldview is comprised almost exclusively of leftist media.
01:03:53.000 Michael Malice's worldview is mixed between liberal and conservative media, and Jack Posobiec is a little bit of liberal media, but mostly conservative media.
01:04:03.000 This makes total sense based on the way they interact with media, the things they believe, the things they say.
01:04:08.000 Why does Vosch think that, you know, the first time he came here, he said, Tim Poole, he told me to my face, you're far right.
01:04:13.000 Because the only media he interacts with is left media, who make up, you know, garbled nonsense about me.
01:04:20.000 Now he says conservative.
01:04:21.000 Because he actually came here and interacted with me.
01:04:21.000 Why?
01:04:24.000 And now, like, he comes here, and we agreed on a bunch of stuff.
01:04:27.000 In fact, when we had the Charlie, Kirk, and Vosch debate, I was actually—a lot of the stuff he said, I was like, I agree with you.
01:04:32.000 You're correct.
01:04:33.000 That point is true, and these things are true.
01:04:35.000 And then a lot of people who followed him were like, oh, I didn't realize, you know, they're, like, based Tim and things like that.
01:04:39.000 If these people just mixed up their news sources a little bit, got a healthier balance, Everyone might actually calm down.
01:04:46.000 The problem is, New York Times, CNN, Newsweek, my top three sources, they lean left.
01:04:52.000 So if Vosch is just watching MSNBC, CNN, Reading the Nation, and all that stuff, and it's overwhelmingly left media, then I don't know how you break someone out of that broken reality.
01:05:03.000 Can you put anyone's Twitter handle in there?
01:05:05.000 Yeah, you want me to do you?
01:05:06.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:05:07.000 Luke, we are change.
01:05:08.000 Luke, we are change.
01:05:09.000 It's gonna be like he's a crackpot conspiracy guy.
01:05:13.000 44% left?
01:05:15.000 Bro, it's because the New York Times.
01:05:15.000 44% left.
01:05:17.000 Zero Hedge and Hive.
01:05:19.000 But it's because the New York Times is a left-wing publication.
01:05:23.000 Ground News does a good job of this.
01:05:26.000 Look at that.
01:05:27.000 Thomas Massey, Glenn Greenwald, and Cernovich are your sources.
01:05:29.000 Glenn Greenwald is very left when it comes to the media.
01:05:33.000 And then you've got Cernovich, who's very balanced.
01:05:36.000 Interestingly, look how small the centrist is in Cernovich.
01:05:39.000 Nassie's got a little bit bigger one.
01:05:41.000 Luke, you've got a 21% moderate.
01:05:44.000 Let's go back to Monica's.
01:05:44.000 What was the percentage of moderate for me?
01:05:46.000 Center.
01:05:46.000 23%.
01:05:48.000 But most of it leans left.
01:05:49.000 Why?
01:05:50.000 The mainstream press is a liberal media machine, and this proves it.
01:05:54.000 Let's jump over to Vaush.
01:05:55.000 Look at this.
01:05:56.000 He only interacts with 64% left-wing.
01:05:59.000 The New York Times, The Daily Beast, and AJC.
01:06:02.000 What percent?
01:06:03.000 I can't even see the percent of right.
01:06:05.000 Schuonhead, Ken Klippenstein, and Hasan the Sun.
01:06:08.000 All overwhelmingly left personalities.
01:06:10.000 So Vaush's worldview is inherently broken.
01:06:13.000 Because he's not consuming media from other people.
01:06:17.000 He's in an echo chamber where he hears what he wants to hear.
01:06:19.000 And I mean no disrespect.
01:06:21.000 I respect that he was actually being fair to a certain degree when he was talking about the RA thing.
01:06:27.000 Like he said, if it was any other mixed race person complaining about racism, you would be on their side.
01:06:33.000 But because it's Tim Poole, you don't like him.
01:06:34.000 He is correct about that.
01:06:35.000 You know what I think?
01:06:36.000 Sm- Vaush, I think, is a smart guy.
01:06:39.000 I think if he actually started adding in some non-left-wing news, even like some- well, he needs to mix in a little bit of conservative sources, he'd be like, well, how- well, hold on.
01:06:49.000 How- wait, this right-wing source says X, but the New York Times says Y.
01:06:53.000 Where's the break here?
01:06:55.000 And I'll give you a really good example.
01:06:56.000 The Washington Examiner reports that the January 6th committee admits to doctoring the message from Jim Jordan to Mark Meadows.
01:07:04.000 That is a fact.
01:07:07.000 What did the Independent report?
01:07:09.000 Jim Jordan confirms he sent message to Mark Meadows.
01:07:13.000 The objective truth is the message was from Jim Jordan, and it was altered.
01:07:19.000 Now, if you only read the left source, you probably don't know it was altered.
01:07:24.000 Really good example, when we had Hunter Avalon on the show, and he said Joe Biden didn't do anything wrong with the quid pro quo, and he didn't know anything about Viktor Shokin and Zlochevsky and anything that happened with Burisma, and I did.
01:07:40.000 Because not only did I read the conservative outlets, the mainstream outlets, I literally read Ukrainian news sources on what was going on.
01:07:47.000 So if you have people like Vosch who only consume echo chamber content, that's what you get.
01:07:53.000 Schuonhet, look at this, even Schuonhet is 70, she's worse than Vosch.
01:07:56.000 But she does have 13%, you know, conservative in there.
01:08:01.000 And she just interacts for the most part with people who are on the left.
01:08:05.000 This is really interesting.
01:08:05.000 Let's take a look at a conservative personality.
01:08:08.000 Jack Posobiec.
01:08:10.000 He's overwhelmingly right-wing, and he consumes media from people who are also overwhelmingly in the right-wing sphere.
01:08:17.000 I think it's fair to say you look at how people consume news, and you can predict their viewpoints and how they view the world.
01:08:22.000 I think everybody, even Jack, should be reading a lot more of mainstream news sources.
01:08:28.000 Well, I say Jack should read more mainstream news sources because he's clearly getting more right-wing sources and, you know, Voss should read more right-wing and independent sources because he's clearly getting nothing but mainstream sources.
01:08:38.000 You should treat it like crossing the street.
01:08:40.000 You don't only look right when you're crossing the street, especially in New York City with the crazy drivers that they have in there.
01:08:46.000 You look left and you look right before crossing the street and I think, you know, that's a perspective that's gone for a lot of people.
01:08:51.000 A lot of people Don't want to face a different reality than the one that they're codified in, that the one that they feel safe in.
01:08:57.000 And a lot of people do feel safe by having their kind of political voices reinforced, their beliefs reinforced.
01:09:03.000 And I'm a big fan of just waking them up, shocking them as much as you can, and having them wake up to the true reality of the world.
01:09:11.000 This is why I think Ben... Right here we have Ben Shapiro.
01:09:14.000 This is why I think Ben Shapiro is so smart.
01:09:16.000 Very smart.
01:09:17.000 And why he's like his opinions are crafted by facts and he doesn't get everything right. I don't agree
01:09:24.000 with all of his opinions, but you can see here from his ground is blind spotter. 38% of his news
01:09:29.000 is left wing. 18% is moderate and 44% is right wing. It makes sense. Ben's a conservative guy.
01:09:35.000 He follows people who are, are, you know, consume middle of the road across the board.
01:09:40.000 Look at this. Steve Miller, Red Stees, a healthy news diet in the middle. These are the people that
01:09:45.000 I think, you know, you are doing a good job when Ben has a debate with someone like Malcolm Nance
01:09:52.000 and he nails all of his facts and his opinions are crafted by those facts. Well read you well read
01:09:57.000 right from, from good sourcing and mixing it up and trying to understand both sides.
01:10:02.000 I grew up with like 10 channels and my dad's like a centrist, leans right, but he would always tell us like, you gotta watch everything.
01:10:09.000 And I would always notice when he got into like friendly debates at Thanksgiving or something, he would know the other person's argument if they happened to be on the other side better than they knew his argument.
01:10:17.000 So he's arguing their point and his point and they're hearing things from him that are completely like from another world to them.
01:10:26.000 It's even being able to be willing to have those conversations.
01:10:29.000 A lot of people are afraid of having those conversations.
01:10:31.000 They're prevented at having those conversations.
01:10:34.000 So even though yesterday was kind of a crap show, the conversation at least happened.
01:10:39.000 People were kind of forced to have it.
01:10:40.000 And I think there's a layer of it too that we could still salvage from the craziness, some kind of understanding from where other people are coming from.
01:10:48.000 And I think one of the biggest signs of intelligence is being able to have an open mind.
01:10:52.000 If you're able to hear ideas that are critical of yours without having an emotional reaction and you could logically, critically think about them and assess the facts of the case.
01:11:02.000 Very few people do that.
01:11:03.000 They just want to be emotionally click baited into something that makes them feel nice and reinforces their side.
01:11:10.000 Let me tell you why Brian Stelter will never, never be on par with Ben Shapiro.
01:11:16.000 And this is a good example.
01:11:18.000 90% of what he interacts with as a media correspondent for CNN is left-wing media.
01:11:24.000 Oliver Darcy, who is a media correspondent for CNN, 85% left-wing content.
01:11:31.000 These are the guys who are supposed to be covering the right.
01:11:33.000 They don't even read it.
01:11:35.000 Reliable sources.
01:11:36.000 The media show on CNN is 99% left-wing media.
01:11:42.000 They do not interact with anyone but themselves.
01:11:46.000 These guys are sitting at the bottom of a well, talking to each other about... Actually, you know what?
01:11:51.000 They're the people sitting in the cave, the allegory of the cave, looking at the shadows, thinking they know the world, and they're not interacting with it at all.
01:11:58.000 So this is something that I mentioned to Olivia when I was driving her over because I was like, I don't want to argue with someone who doesn't understand what we're talking about.
01:12:05.000 I want someone who's well-read, well-informed, someone who can change my perspective because they know facts that I don't, like talking about redlining and blockbusting.
01:12:13.000 That's stuff I want to know about because that changes my view on stuff like systemic racism.
01:12:17.000 But it's very hard to find someone on the left.
01:12:20.000 Maybe it's just because it's easier to only read Left-wing sources, like what Brian Stelter apparently is doing.
01:12:26.000 I cannot believe that these are the people that they choose to cover the media.
01:12:30.000 I forget who it was who was advertising for a right-wing media reporter.
01:12:34.000 I was like, well, as far as I know, as far as these people are telling me, the right-wing doesn't even exist.
01:12:38.000 There is none.
01:12:39.000 Yeah, I think there's also a debate to be had with a lot of people on the left wanting to give handouts, wanting to help others so they don't have to work towards something.
01:12:49.000 Because when you have an idea that contradicts your viewpoint, you have to work to combat it.
01:12:55.000 And I think there's an aspect of people having the ability to be able to work.
01:12:59.000 And I think maybe that's why a lot of right-wingers are for work.
01:13:02.000 For having this kind of Protestant work ethic compared to people who want to be the mother in our kind of larger society and give people help and be their supportive role.
01:13:12.000 And I think a healthy society has a mother figure and a father figure that has Both kind of influence on people's lives so they get a fair perspective on it because if you go too far in either direction you're going to be in an unhealthy direction.
01:13:28.000 You're going to be unbalanced and you're not going to be a person that's going to kind of fare well with the kind of rules and circumstances of our society.
01:13:36.000 So I want to pull up, this is called Mediaopoly from Ground News.
01:13:39.000 You can see 32% of the news Tim Pool interacts with on Twitter is media conglomerate owned.
01:13:45.000 Tim Pool is a slightly concentrated news diet.
01:13:48.000 So you can see 11% of the news I consume is independent, or I think it's interacts with.
01:13:54.000 Mostly mainstream media, then private equity, then wealthy private owners, telecom companies, and other.
01:14:00.000 I want to do this.
01:14:01.000 I'm going to pull up.
01:14:03.000 Look at all this.
01:14:04.000 Let me go back.
01:14:04.000 I'm going to pull up Luke We Are Change.
01:14:08.000 And I'm willing to bet Luke has a... Here's my bet.
01:14:10.000 Luke's going to have a big independent media bubble.
01:14:12.000 What do you think, Luke?
01:14:13.000 Probably.
01:14:14.000 You think so?
01:14:14.000 Yeah.
01:14:15.000 Not so much.
01:14:16.000 Actually smaller than mine by 1%.
01:14:18.000 You have wealthy private owners followed by media conglomerates and private equity.
01:14:23.000 But here's why I pulled this up.
01:14:26.000 What do you think is going to happen when I pull up Brian Stelter?
01:14:30.000 Let's find out.
01:14:31.000 Brian Stelter, media reporter for CNN.
01:14:34.000 He's overwhelmingly telecom companies.
01:14:37.000 Now that's probably because CNN.
01:14:39.000 Because he's within the CNN bubble.
01:14:42.000 Reliable sources, 96% telecom.
01:14:46.000 Oliver Darcy, Telecom.
01:14:49.000 These people live not only in a bubble of leftism, but they only really interact probably with the news coming out of their own network, which is full of garbage, and as we can see, heavily biased.
01:15:01.000 So they're effectively, the way I described it with Jack Dorsey, Is that his worldview was shaped by gargling the sewage of his own platform.
01:15:10.000 He created a platform.
01:15:11.000 It had a negative effect on society, producing extreme activism.
01:15:15.000 He then consumed it all and came to believe the garbage coming out of his own machine.
01:15:20.000 Stop it, man.
01:15:21.000 You're giving me visuals here.
01:15:26.000 I think Jack Dorsey has been unleashed.
01:15:28.000 I think he was constrained a bit by Twitter being the CEO.
01:15:32.000 Now that he's out, the one thing he tweeted was transitory in quotes.
01:15:36.000 He tweeted that Rothbard recently.
01:15:38.000 I'm willing to bet now that he's not there, he's gonna give it some time.
01:15:40.000 He might come out and actually start blowing people's minds.
01:15:43.000 No joke.
01:15:43.000 That'd be nice.
01:15:44.000 Would be great.
01:15:45.000 I hit him up, actually.
01:15:46.000 He... You'd be great to interview.
01:15:48.000 I asked him if he wanted to come on the show and talk about his views on blockchain, you know, and the future of social media.
01:15:53.000 And he said, at some point.
01:15:56.000 That'd be great.
01:15:57.000 Well, he's huge.
01:15:58.000 More than I can say for a lot of other people.
01:15:59.000 He's huge into decentralized currencies.
01:16:01.000 And him, you know, tweeting out Rothbard, it just is just a perfect example of people realizing the true power of decentralization and understanding that if you try to control everything in life and centralize power, you're creating real life harm that translates to, of course, the natural stopping of human progression.
01:16:19.000 But Luke, we gotta get real.
01:16:21.000 We gotta get serious.
01:16:23.000 There is serious harm that may be coming for all of us.
01:16:26.000 And it's this story right here.
01:16:27.000 Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for revenge in Indian town.
01:16:32.000 What if they come for us?
01:16:33.000 I'm just kidding.
01:16:35.000 Was there a movie about this?
01:16:37.000 It's Friday night, and we're gonna leave on a... This is not actually a good note.
01:16:42.000 This is Volume 2 of our book.
01:16:47.000 I read the story and I felt depressed.
01:16:48.000 Like, seriously, it's sad.
01:16:50.000 What's happening?
01:16:51.000 Is there video?
01:16:51.000 There's video of it.
01:16:54.000 Group of monkeys.
01:16:55.000 I need to know what happened.
01:16:56.000 No, there's a video of them rescuing a puppy from the monkey, so look at this.
01:16:59.000 A group of monkeys in a small town in India took revenge on the local dog population by throwing them off the top of buildings and trees.
01:17:06.000 It's reported the monkeys have killed about 250 pups in the process and are targeting villagers.
01:17:11.000 The monkeys, located in Malagaon, India, started the rampage after some of the dogs allegedly killed an infant monkey.
01:17:18.000 News18 reported that when the monkey sees a dog approach, they catch them and throw them from a significant height to the ground.
01:17:24.000 In the neighboring village of Lavool, the monkeys have eradicated all of the dogs.
01:17:28.000 After all the dogs were killed in the village, residents contacted Forest Department officials to catch the monkeys.
01:17:33.000 But when officials attempted to catch the monkeys, they were unable to capture a single monkey.
01:17:38.000 Villagers believe the monkeys are taking revenge on the dogs.
01:17:41.000 Now villagers in Lavool are being chased by the monkeys.
01:17:44.000 Some have even been attacked!
01:17:45.000 Quote, we've seen that when an individual is attacked in some way, the likelihood of them attacking someone related to their aggressor is higher.
01:17:52.000 Typically there's a preference for attacking a third party associated with the original aggressor as opposed to the actual aggressor.
01:17:58.000 For the most part, these acts of revenge take place shortly after the attack.
01:18:02.000 Alright, we got real serious throughout the previous segment of the show.
01:18:06.000 This one's actually kind of a messed up story, but at least we can wind down on a Friday night and get our minds out of that dark place and talk about monkeys!
01:18:13.000 The dogs are reading too much Brian Stelter.
01:18:16.000 The monkeys are.
01:18:17.000 Yeah, maybe the monkeys were.
01:18:19.000 I was gonna make a communist reference, but I shouldn't.
01:18:23.000 I'm gonna stop myself there.
01:18:24.000 The monkeys have been on Facebook reading about how dogs are evil and they just wanted all the dogs to drop dead and they went out there and started throwing dogs off roofs.
01:18:32.000 I spent some time in India.
01:18:34.000 The monkeys there call the shots.
01:18:35.000 I mean, seriously, if you're around the Taj Mahal area, in Mumbai, in New Delhi.
01:18:43.000 That's also in Thailand.
01:18:46.000 There's literally people making money off people going on beaches.
01:18:51.000 Monkeys rob them and then you pay the locals a few dollars and they'll get your stuff back.
01:18:55.000 But in India, especially outside of the Taj Mahal, there's monkeys running around all over the place and if they want something from you, they're gonna get it.
01:19:04.000 We need Cassandra's view on this story.
01:19:06.000 Yeah, I was thinking that.
01:19:08.000 She's become a bit of a monkey expert.
01:19:09.000 Oh yeah.
01:19:10.000 Do you guys see that crazy video where during the lockdown the baboons had no food so they were roving gangs of baboons attacking each other for food?
01:19:18.000 It was like they went Bloods and Crips, you know?
01:19:20.000 We're in a dystopia.
01:19:21.000 We're there.
01:19:23.000 This is like Rise of the Planet of the Apes.
01:19:26.000 I think I'd like to title our reality the Omega Variant.
01:19:31.000 You know, like, because that's the last variant, you know?
01:19:31.000 Yeah.
01:19:33.000 That's where we're headed, and it sounds cool.
01:19:35.000 The Omega Variant.
01:19:36.000 And because, you know, we're in a sci-fi dystopia with all of this stuff going on,
01:19:41.000 and I would just like to call it that.
01:19:43.000 Yeah, the only place that's safe is the metaverse.
01:19:45.000 I was about to say, we're gonna have the metaverse.
01:19:47.000 That's part of the Omega Variant.
01:19:48.000 Oh yeah, true.
01:19:48.000 Well, there's also monkey castles in India where monkeys get worshipped and there's monkey tribes fighting other monkey tribes for the top position of their group to be inside of this monkey castle where they get worshipped by the locals and fed by the locals.
01:20:04.000 So there's also stories of monkeys attacking people because of a lack of tourists in other South Asian countries and just hordes of monkeys just pretty much running entire cities in South Asia.
01:20:16.000 New think piece from Newsweek.
01:20:18.000 Can monkeys be racist?
01:20:19.000 That's my now.
01:20:21.000 Well, it depends.
01:20:22.000 What's the race of the dogs?
01:20:23.000 Are the dogs chocolate labs or yellow labs?
01:20:25.000 They're white adjacent.
01:20:27.000 Are they?
01:20:27.000 Yeah.
01:20:28.000 They're white passing.
01:20:28.000 Yeah.
01:20:29.000 White passing dogs.
01:20:30.000 Well, this dog is actually white on its front and brown on its back.
01:20:35.000 So I don't know.
01:20:37.000 It's white passing.
01:20:39.000 White passing.
01:20:40.000 There's any amount of white in there.
01:20:41.000 No good.
01:20:41.000 No good.
01:20:43.000 The monkeys are going to come for us.
01:20:44.000 It's a new Michael Bay movie.
01:20:46.000 There was a show I was watching.
01:20:48.000 It was called, like, After Humans or something.
01:20:50.000 I forgot what it was called.
01:20:51.000 And they said that if humans disappeared right now, if every single person on the planet was just gone, house cats would take over.
01:20:58.000 Of course!
01:20:58.000 Yeah, because they reproduce like crazy, and they're the only species besides humans that kill for fun.
01:21:07.000 Yeah, they hunt for fun.
01:21:08.000 They kill for fun.
01:21:09.000 And so they just needlessly destroy and expand and kill and man.
01:21:15.000 Cats, dude.
01:21:15.000 Not a fan of cats.
01:21:16.000 Oh, yeah.
01:21:17.000 They're torturers.
01:21:18.000 They literally torture animals for fun.
01:21:20.000 My cat brings me a decapitated mouse.
01:21:22.000 Yeah, quite often.
01:21:24.000 It's treasure.
01:21:25.000 We had Bocas, our cat.
01:21:28.000 We went outside and he was holding a bird, a little blue bird, and then his wing was busted.
01:21:33.000 So he would let it go and it would struggle and jump off and then he would pounce at it and whack it and whack it and whack it.
01:21:38.000 We had to put the bird down.
01:21:40.000 It was this little tiny bird because it had been eviscerated.
01:21:44.000 And so we were like, what do we do?
01:21:46.000 We just gotta, you know...
01:21:48.000 And then there was another time where I saw him sitting in the grass looking around and I went out there and there was a little mouse on its back just like wheezing and then it rolled over and started to crawl away and then he just got ready and then he let it go a little bit then he jumped up and started bashing it over and over again so I took a little stick and I put it under the hand of the mouse and the mouse grabbed onto it and I lifted it up and he was just hanging there dangling and and Bocas started going Like yelling at me, and then I put the mouse in a bush.
01:22:16.000 I think he survived.
01:22:17.000 Because Bocas was just beating him, but he didn't gut him or anything like that.
01:22:20.000 Cats are brutal.
01:22:21.000 Yeah.
01:22:22.000 No, no, no.
01:22:23.000 Mouse rescuer.
01:22:24.000 You want to know what was the most brutal thing I saw?
01:22:25.000 Okay, it's one thing when Bocas is like stalking the mouse and swatting it.
01:22:31.000 A mouse was walking past the chicken coop, and a chicken ran over and grabbed it, bashed the mouse with its beak against the ground, and then just swallowed it whole.
01:22:41.000 And I was like, oh my!
01:22:42.000 That's like some ancient DNA.
01:22:44.000 Pterodactyl stuff.
01:22:45.000 Little dinosaurs, man!
01:22:46.000 Dude, it just swallows you like... No, I didn't see that happen.
01:22:51.000 I was told by some of the people here that they saw it grab the mouse and just bash it and then... And I was like, whoa!
01:22:59.000 Yeah, dude, they eat chickens.
01:23:02.000 Do you know that chickens will eat each other?
01:23:04.000 Of course they will.
01:23:05.000 So we had one of our chickens... Yeah, Dorothy, one of our chickens, was getting injured.
01:23:11.000 I gotta be honest, Dorothy's kind of a bitch.
01:23:16.000 She's not here to defend herself.
01:23:18.000 She was attacking, she was bullying the other chickens.
01:23:21.000 And so the other chickens teamed up and Roberto, the rooster, started, he would jump on her and he wasn't, he wasn't, he wasn't doing the business.
01:23:28.000 Cause you know, like he would just jump on her and start pecking her head like crazy.
01:23:32.000 And then she would scream and run away and her back was all messed up.
01:23:36.000 And so I looked it up.
01:23:38.000 We had people comment on the show.
01:23:39.000 They said if she starts bleeding, the other chickens will peck her to death and then eat the body.
01:23:44.000 So we separated them for about two or three weeks.
01:23:47.000 Dorothy fully healed.
01:23:49.000 We reintroduced her.
01:23:50.000 They're all getting along just fine now.
01:23:51.000 It's fantastic.
01:23:52.000 We're getting the cameras out of our chickens.
01:23:53.000 So there's hope you're saying for people.
01:23:55.000 Yeah, so a couple weeks is the equivalent to a chicken of maybe like a year.
01:24:03.000 None of these chickens are... Dorothy's a year and a half old.
01:24:08.000 The other adult chickens were born in January, so they're almost a year.
01:24:12.000 So they were separated for about three weeks, right?
01:24:15.000 So that's like, you know, maybe like a year or two years of their lives and reintroduce them and they'll be like, Shane, I haven't seen you in so long.
01:24:22.000 I can't remember why we were mad at each other.
01:24:24.000 I want to eat you.
01:24:25.000 But I'm okay.
01:24:28.000 Are you injured?
01:24:29.000 Hey guys, he is injured.
01:24:31.000 That's food.
01:24:32.000 We should eat him.
01:24:33.000 As humans right now, we are so lucky and so protected from the realities of nature.
01:24:40.000 Because, again, if ish starts to get real, if there's going to be a lack of resources, a lack of food, it's going to be a very natural process of what's going to be taking place.
01:24:53.000 And a lot of us are not used to nature.
01:24:54.000 A lot of us are not used to the wild.
01:24:57.000 A lot of us don't even understand how the wild works.
01:25:00.000 And I think, you know, with all the crazy stuff happening, I think people are going to get a very rude awakening soon.
01:25:04.000 I think I'd be okay.
01:25:06.000 I was raised by like a crazy prepper, like a doomsday prepper.
01:25:09.000 So yeah, we had like, we literally had like a go trailer, like in the garage that we could like hook up and just go.
01:25:13.000 We never had to use it, but I was just raised that way.
01:25:16.000 I think I would survive.
01:25:17.000 An apocalypse vehicle?
01:25:18.000 Yes, we did.
01:25:20.000 Yeah.
01:25:20.000 Are there some like other prepper tips that you would share with people that you learned?
01:25:25.000 I learned a lot of weird stuff as a child like I mean I was in middle school like chopping down bamboo that just kind of randomly grew.
01:25:31.000 I live on the edge of like Seneca Creek which is off of the Potomac and it's my house kind of backs up to the woods and there's like a kind of random shoot of bamboo that shot up I think for privacy for my neighbor but there's a bunch of dead bamboo down there in middle school I would take it and wrap a fishing line around it and catch salamanders and catch catfish in Seneca Creek and I was like that was like my little like teenage girl thing I had no friends I was like oh my god why does everyone think I'm weird?
01:25:53.000 But just little stuff like that that was normal to me growing up.
01:25:56.000 I learned how to treat and clean cambion from pine trees to eat and make tea with.
01:26:03.000 I learned how to make flour from acorns, a lot of weird stuff like that.
01:26:07.000 You ever make dandelion tea?
01:26:10.000 Yeah, Ian talks about that a lot.
01:26:12.000 He was like, yo, we gotta make dandelion tea.
01:26:13.000 I've had dandelion tea, I really like it.
01:26:15.000 Is it good?
01:26:15.000 Yeah, I love it.
01:26:16.000 Pine tea made from cambium is also pretty good.
01:26:19.000 I've made acorn tea as well.
01:26:21.000 It's kind of more of a nutty coffee flavor if you do it with acorns, but yeah.
01:26:25.000 We got probably 300 pounds of black walnut outside.
01:26:28.000 You ever do anything with it?
01:26:30.000 It's apparently like an anti-parasitic or something, but you're not supposed to eat a lot of it.
01:26:33.000 I don't know.
01:26:34.000 We have pawpaw like crazy in October though.
01:26:37.000 I remember the day I met you, you made mulberry jam.
01:26:40.000 Yeah, mulberry jam.
01:26:42.000 You gave me a cookie with some mulberry jam.
01:26:43.000 It was amazing.
01:26:44.000 The best thing we made, so we have wild wine berries everywhere in West Virginia.
01:26:50.000 I saw a guy driving down the highway, pull over his car, jump out and start grabbing berries from the side of the road.
01:26:54.000 I'm not kidding.
01:26:55.000 They're delicious.
01:26:55.000 They're like a Chinese raspberry.
01:26:57.000 We took those and we took lemon juice.
01:27:00.000 Now you use a little bit of lemon juice to make a jam, but I did a lot of lemon juice to make a lemon wineberry jam.
01:27:05.000 It was amazing and then we made we put it on cheesecake.
01:27:08.000 Mmm, so good.
01:27:10.000 I got news though I got good news.
01:27:12.000 We were trying to get this building built.
01:27:13.000 We got a building getting built nice We're gonna have freedom a stand Tim cast HQ an official big steel construct building 7,500 square feet With a new studio being built out specifically inside of it.
01:27:24.000 We got this confirmed today I didn't think we're gonna be able to pull it off because of the shortages and the price increases But we finally found a company that said we can get this done and It's smaller than we originally wanted, but it's going to be mostly big empty open space for now, and then there's going to be a small area that's about 20 feet by 75 feet that will comprise the studio.
01:27:42.000 It's going to be a second floor construct, and then we're going to have a legit headquarters in West Virginia for everything.
01:27:49.000 We're still going to have this space for production and editorial and everything, but we're growing like crazy.
01:27:53.000 It's incredible.
01:27:54.000 Yeah, we're growing like mad crazy.
01:27:57.000 It's good news.
01:27:58.000 And it's thanks to everybody who's a member, who's a member at TimCast.com, supporting all of the work we do.
01:28:03.000 And it's a hefty ticket.
01:28:05.000 Like, it's expensive to do.
01:28:06.000 But, it's like I've been saying.
01:28:09.000 We want to do a lot.
01:28:10.000 We need space.
01:28:10.000 We want to do the Truth in Media Foundation.
01:28:13.000 We want to fact check the fake media.
01:28:15.000 We need office space for this.
01:28:16.000 We want to do the technology stuff.
01:28:17.000 We need office space for this.
01:28:18.000 So we're going to start building out the space we need.
01:28:20.000 It's actually cheaper to build on this land than it would be to go buy a building and deal with it.
01:28:24.000 Plus it's going to be built, made to order, so it's specifically for us and everything we need.
01:28:29.000 Man, it's crazy that we're getting this stuff done.
01:28:30.000 So hopefully...
01:28:32.000 You know, I'll put it this way.
01:28:33.000 The fact that this is all happening is the best evidence that we are winning.
01:28:38.000 That success is not only possible, but it's happened before, it's happening now, and it's going to continue happening.
01:28:43.000 So that's good news.
01:28:45.000 It's a very optimistic thing, I think.
01:28:47.000 And I also want to add, because someone superchatted this, that I am in fact a Pokémon.
01:28:52.000 He is, yes.
01:28:53.000 It's a Pokémon called Tympole.
01:28:55.000 Literally it's called Timple, and it's Pokemon wearing headphones.
01:28:59.000 It kind of looks like you.
01:29:00.000 It does, doesn't it?
01:29:01.000 And it's got the same colors.
01:29:02.000 Same eyebrows.
01:29:02.000 Isn't that weird?
01:29:03.000 Yeah.
01:29:03.000 Isn't that really weird?
01:29:05.000 Who came first?
01:29:05.000 I love him.
01:29:06.000 Timple was made well before I was using... It's really crazy.
01:29:11.000 The colors we use for Timcast...
01:29:13.000 The, the name Tim Pohl.
01:29:15.000 Simulation.
01:29:16.000 And yeah, simulation for sure.
01:29:18.000 But I, so like, we use the teal and the black as the colors on the website.
01:29:22.000 He swims.
01:29:23.000 Isn't that weird?
01:29:23.000 Yeah, it's weird.
01:29:24.000 Tim Pohl.
01:29:25.000 Maybe the true version of you in the alternate reality, a part of this larger kind of consciousness that we're a part of, we're just kind of trolling.
01:29:33.000 Someone's trolling.
01:29:37.000 I don't know, but somebody super chatted, they were like, why didn't you tell us that you were a Pokemon?
01:29:42.000 And I was like, other people have sent us this before.
01:29:45.000 Timpole.
01:29:46.000 That's weird.
01:29:48.000 So weird.
01:29:49.000 It's like a tadpole, I guess.
01:29:51.000 So cute!
01:29:53.000 You're even the right water sign.
01:29:55.000 How funny.
01:29:56.000 And I'm a Pisces.
01:29:57.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:29:58.000 That's what I'm saying.
01:29:59.000 You're a water sign.
01:30:00.000 That's funny.
01:30:01.000 So do we live in a simulation?
01:30:01.000 Love it.
01:30:03.000 Pick up your copy of the Inverted World book and read it.
01:30:05.000 That's right.
01:30:06.000 Perfect.
01:30:06.000 Look at that.
01:30:06.000 invertedworldbook.com.
01:30:09.000 One thing we can do though is we can jump over to the...
01:30:12.000 Super Chats!
01:30:13.000 If you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and Ian couldn't be with us tonight, so I need you to smash that like button for him.
01:30:23.000 Ian, wherever you may be, we're smashing that like button for you.
01:30:26.000 No, he went home to see his family, it's not a big deal.
01:30:29.000 He'll be back.
01:30:29.000 We should have said there was a fight and like...
01:30:32.000 It got bad, it got crazy.
01:30:33.000 Ian laughed, we don't know where he went.
01:30:37.000 But he said, we got a mysterious message that said, I'll only come back if you get 10,000 likes.
01:30:42.000 And we were like, how do we do this?
01:30:45.000 No, there was a letter and it was like, get 10,000 likes or you'll never see Ian again.
01:30:50.000 Alright, let's see what we got here.
01:30:54.000 All right, let's see. Drive-by commenter says, Hey Tim, a quick response you can say on CRT is,
01:30:59.000 I agree with teaching all history, but I reject the deliberate polarization and weaponization of
01:31:03.000 the youth in their formative years. Yeah, it's hard for people who don't know what's going on
01:31:09.000 to understand.
01:31:10.000 That's why, like, you know, we're talking with R.A., I said, I don't think critical race theory should be banned.
01:31:14.000 He goes, but you were cheering for it.
01:31:14.000 And I was like, we're cheering for the banning of the praxis.
01:31:18.000 Like, it's, I imagine this should be simple for most people.
01:31:22.000 Would you want a teacher to tell a child to, you know, oh, you failed your test, so I want you to, you know, sit down and do seven Hail Marys and three Our Fathers.
01:31:33.000 You'd be like, I don't think that should be in a public school because it's a religious practice.
01:31:38.000 I feel the exact same way about that.
01:31:40.000 If there was a bill being passed that said, or if I found out all these teachers across the country were, bring out books that said, sit down and close your eyes and reflect on how you've, you know, sinned and how you need to confess to the Lord and do all these religious things, I'd be like, nah, I'm not okay with that, right?
01:31:56.000 That's a public school and there's issues with that.
01:31:58.000 Same thing.
01:32:00.000 They can't have whatever they want, you know?
01:32:02.000 Rekra Morrison says, so when's the sequel song, Will of the Elites?
01:32:06.000 I have a new song I'm extremely excited for.
01:32:08.000 I don't, you know what?
01:32:09.000 I think I can tell the story of the song right now.
01:32:11.000 Cause right?
01:32:12.000 Normally, like when we did Will of the People, I waited for it to come out so people can get the full song because the song is a story.
01:32:20.000 But the song I'm working on now, I'll give you the really quick version.
01:32:22.000 So it'll, it'll spoil it for a lot of, no, I'm not going to do it.
01:32:25.000 Don't do it.
01:32:25.000 I don't want to spoil it.
01:32:26.000 Don't spoil it.
01:32:27.000 It's really good though.
01:32:27.000 But I'll tell you the gist of it.
01:32:29.000 It's not a dark and evil song like, you know, it's just a song about perseverance.
01:32:34.000 It's about a kid who wants to defy the establishment that's trying to mold him to be what they want him to be, but he really wants to just be like, you know, he wants to be a scientist, he wants to explore, he wants to find his own path in life.
01:32:48.000 So that's basically it.
01:32:49.000 But it's a really good story that I wrote, and I've got the video planned out for it.
01:32:54.000 The song is already mostly formulated.
01:32:57.000 So, and then we're also actually done, we're getting really close to being done with one song which is fairly dark called Bright Eyes, which you may have seen in the vlog.
01:33:05.000 You can check that out.
01:33:05.000 We got Pete Parato laying drum tracks for us.
01:33:07.000 I could not be more excited about that as a huge fan of The Offspring growing up and then having Pete, you know, help us with the drums is just absolutely incredible.
01:33:15.000 Pete, you rock.
01:33:15.000 Thank you so much.
01:33:17.000 All right, let's read what we got here.
01:33:18.000 The Physicality Channel says, I'm not that guy.
01:33:21.000 Which guy?
01:33:22.000 Which guy is he referring to?
01:33:23.000 I don't know.
01:33:24.000 I have no idea.
01:33:25.000 Daniel Caven says, Tim I am 25% Japanese and it was always my leftist friends that would say it doesn't count.
01:33:32.000 I am the same age as you and when I fly I get polled also.
01:33:35.000 It's the weirdest thing that like, I don't know man, that you have people who say there's no possible way you could experience racism and then they claim they're not the racists.
01:33:44.000 It's just weird.
01:33:45.000 Anyway.
01:33:47.000 Alan DeJayne says, if one wants to ask others to relate to their struggles, they must give credence to other struggles.
01:33:52.000 Understanding works best as a two-way lane.
01:33:54.000 And, uh, shout out to Vosh again, because he made a really great point.
01:33:57.000 He said, when someone tells you their experience, you do not call them a liar or deny it.
01:34:05.000 Because they are the experts on them.
01:34:08.000 You always say, okay, and, or okay, but, and you carry on accepting, you know, unless you can means test and prove they're making a story up.
01:34:18.000 If someone says this is what they went through, then you accept it.
01:34:21.000 What happened to speaking your truth?
01:34:22.000 Right.
01:34:23.000 Well, it's because that's why I say a lot of these people are just overtly racist.
01:34:27.000 But I will say too, in that capacity, I do think Vaush is an overt authoritarian masquerading as a libertarian.
01:34:35.000 And that is not meant to be a point of derision or disrespect.
01:34:38.000 It's just an opinion-based statement of how I view him.
01:34:41.000 And it was because he made a troll video where he was saying it was bait that he said Assange should rot in a CIA black site as long as it offends Glenn Greenwald or whatever.
01:34:50.000 And I just...
01:34:52.000 I understand he may be joking or screwing around or whatever, but I'm just like, I don't actually trust that he's joking in that capacity.
01:35:01.000 I don't think he's being as literal as he wants Julian Assange to die in a CIA black site, but I genuinely do not believe he supports Julian Assange.
01:35:11.000 And I gotta be honest, overwhelmingly, if you oppose what Assange did, it is typically because you're an authoritarian, and what Assange did was journalism.
01:35:21.000 That's just it.
01:35:21.000 So I don't trust him.
01:35:23.000 Authoritarians hate transparency.
01:35:25.000 Absolutely.
01:35:26.000 Because it disrupts the authority.
01:35:28.000 Nathaniel Curry says, I'm not that guy.
01:35:31.000 Smash the like button, y'all.
01:35:32.000 That's right.
01:35:32.000 That's right.
01:35:33.000 If you are not that guy, smash that like button.
01:35:35.000 I want to say something too.
01:35:35.000 book you know the thing and be strong walruses.
01:35:40.000 Nathaniel Curry says I'm not that guy.
01:35:42.000 Smash the like button y'all.
01:35:43.000 That's right.
01:35:44.000 That's right.
01:35:45.000 If you are not that guy smash that like button.
01:35:47.000 I want to say something too.
01:35:49.000 Look.
01:35:50.000 Afterwards, you know, there are people who are like Tim why would you apologize to that
01:35:53.000 And I'm like, because I don't want to fight people.
01:35:55.000 Because I'm trying not to have conflict.
01:35:57.000 And because I recognize we disagree.
01:36:00.000 And we both got mad.
01:36:01.000 And I said this earlier.
01:36:02.000 I take full responsibility for everything that happened last night.
01:36:04.000 Why?
01:36:05.000 I believe that I should not invite people into my house who are going to disagree with me and then have me get mad at them and yell at them for it.
01:36:12.000 I can get mad at them.
01:36:12.000 I can disagree with them.
01:36:13.000 I can get mad.
01:36:15.000 But if I ask someone to come here because I'm going to talk politics with them and they don't like my politics, I should not be raising my voice about that.
01:36:23.000 You know, I do think there's some criticism to go to R.A.
01:36:26.000 for calling me a bitch and laughing at me and raising his voice to me, and then he got mad when I did the same, but I think I have an obligation as the host who's asked them to do me the favor of traveling, coming on my show for free, helping me do a show, and then me getting mad at them?
01:36:42.000 Ah, I shouldn't have done that.
01:36:43.000 I shouldn't have done that.
01:36:44.000 So it's one of my personal pet peeves when other people try to tell you what you think.
01:36:49.000 This is something that happens a lot on the internet.
01:36:50.000 It happens to me in real life.
01:36:52.000 I once mentioned that I had a hard time dealing with people from a certain state.
01:36:56.000 Someone contradicted me!
01:36:57.000 And I was like, I'm telling you what's happened to me!
01:37:00.000 What's going on?
01:37:01.000 Why are you telling me that I'm wrong with what I'm telling you about what happened to me?
01:37:05.000 This is just what I've experienced.
01:37:06.000 One of the things that you can't say is true or false is what has happened to someone else or what their opinion is.
01:37:11.000 That is not something that is falsifiable in any manner.
01:37:14.000 You can't just contradict someone.
01:37:15.000 And people don't even know what they think themselves.
01:37:18.000 They're very bad at communicating what they themselves are feeling.
01:37:20.000 So to tell someone you know what they're thinking or feeling, get out of here.
01:37:23.000 And I want to make something clear too.
01:37:24.000 It's the weirdest thing.
01:37:25.000 There's two important points.
01:37:26.000 I did say this earlier, but I'll say it again.
01:37:28.000 That, uh, there's people on the left and the right saying, the left is saying, Tim was a coward, and look how fast he backed down when R.A., you know, stood up and put him in his place.
01:37:40.000 And there's people on the right saying, damn, Tim didn't even flinch.
01:37:43.000 He kept his cool.
01:37:44.000 And my response is, neither of those apply to the circumstances.
01:37:49.000 Because I don't think anyone here thought R.A.
01:37:52.000 was actually going to attack anybody.
01:37:53.000 No.
01:37:54.000 He just got mad and he smacked the mic.
01:37:56.000 Yeah.
01:37:56.000 So there's nothing for me to be scared of.
01:37:58.000 I didn't think, like, I feel like it's a weird insult to R.A.
01:38:01.000 to imply that he was gonna lose his cool and attack us.
01:38:04.000 I do not believe that for a second.
01:38:05.000 Right.
01:38:05.000 So I wasn't being brave.
01:38:07.000 I wasn't being scared.
01:38:09.000 I literally was just like, the dude stood up and hit the mic.
01:38:12.000 Didn't come after anybody.
01:38:14.000 And I do want to stress this point too, that's really weird.
01:38:17.000 There's people on the left saying that I didn't understand what he was saying when he said, I'm not that guy.
01:38:23.000 And I'm like, why do you think I apologized to him?
01:38:26.000 I told him you are that guy.
01:38:27.000 I know exactly what that meant.
01:38:29.000 It was an insult.
01:38:30.000 I was directly insulting him saying that he was going to sit back and take it.
01:38:34.000 And I called him a mother effer and I said bad words.
01:38:37.000 And I was like, bro, I should not have snapped like that.
01:38:40.000 So I fully recognize I was being disrespectful to a guy I invited to come on my show to do me a favor.
01:38:44.000 And that was wrong of me.
01:38:46.000 That's just right there.
01:38:47.000 So some people are like, Tim, don't back down.
01:38:49.000 No, dude.
01:38:51.000 I have to say this very plainly.
01:38:54.000 If the goal of this show is to ask people to come on for free, and then we run a business, we make money, and we hire people, and we expand, you know, these people are all doing me a favor.
01:39:05.000 So I can accept that if I invite someone here, they might not like me or agree with me.
01:39:09.000 I should not raise my voice at them.
01:39:11.000 And he ended with a hug.
01:39:13.000 Ended with a hug.
01:39:13.000 And he wrote a nice thing on Twitter.
01:39:15.000 That's right.
01:39:16.000 And he said, like, they're going to take that clip.
01:39:20.000 And then that's why the first thing I wake up and I see was trending.
01:39:23.000 I'm like, yeah, here we go.
01:39:24.000 I was like, no one's posting that we hugged, man.
01:39:26.000 We hugged for like a good 20 seconds.
01:39:28.000 And we were both like, I'm sorry.
01:39:30.000 That should be the shirt.
01:39:31.000 And people too.
01:39:32.000 There was a lot of disrespect for him, bro.
01:39:35.000 As a skateboarder, he's got that song, King of the Underground and Tony Hawk's Underground.
01:39:40.000 We know R.A.
01:39:40.000 the Rugged Man, dude.
01:39:41.000 That song is awesome.
01:39:42.000 Absolutely.
01:39:43.000 I just wish I was there.
01:39:45.000 I want to sit face-to-face with a white man telling me about the black experience and calling me a racist and calling me a white supremacist.
01:39:51.000 Let's make that happen.
01:39:53.000 I love when I get in these situations and it doesn't happen often because usually they'll understand before they talk to me.
01:39:59.000 Yeah, she's probably not the best person to, you know, white splain about the black experience, too.
01:40:03.000 But occasionally it will happen, usually on Twitter when you're not face to face with somebody.
01:40:08.000 But I would just love to sit down with somebody who is so deluded like that.
01:40:11.000 I think we need another Thrilla in Manila, too, with other people who are going to come on.
01:40:17.000 I think I think there deserves to be a redemption moment and a moment where we could converse about this and give it another try, where we could try to understand each other with other people involved.
01:40:28.000 That would be the best outcome.
01:40:29.000 Yeah, for sure.
01:40:30.000 Ian Shop says, Hey Tim and crew, ended up checking out Vosh's take on the
01:40:35.000 viral clip and given he didn't see the two prior hours, he had a good
01:40:38.000 take overall.
01:40:39.000 But his comment section was gross.
01:40:41.000 A non-trivial portion just criticized your personal appearance.
01:40:44.000 Well, that's because they're jealous.
01:40:46.000 Over the past several months, I've been doing keto and I've lost a good amount of weight.
01:40:49.000 That's right.
01:40:50.000 And I've been skating.
01:40:51.000 You know what?
01:40:52.000 It's really incredible.
01:40:53.000 It's not even about losing weight.
01:40:53.000 You get your diet right.
01:40:55.000 It was about me realizing that we talk bad about sugar all day, every day, and I was eating trash.
01:41:01.000 I was like, during the day, I'd be like, oh, you know, I'll get something good, like some rice and beef or something.
01:41:06.000 And then at night I'd be like, what's one pack of gummy bears?
01:41:09.000 What's one stroopwafel?
01:41:11.000 It's no big deal.
01:41:12.000 It's just one soda.
01:41:16.000 And now I'm just like, I'm not touching any of that stuff.
01:41:20.000 The worst thing I had today was a hot dog.
01:41:22.000 I actually ate the bun.
01:41:23.000 That's right.
01:41:24.000 But it was like, you know, I have substantially reduced just bad stuff in my diet.
01:41:32.000 I still eat some bad stuff.
01:41:33.000 We had pizzas.
01:41:34.000 I just took the cheese and I ate the cheese.
01:41:35.000 That's a good way to do it.
01:41:36.000 Because I'm like, I can't walk.
01:41:38.000 But we have keto pizzas.
01:41:39.000 We have Quest keto pizzas.
01:41:41.000 I put Giardiniera on it.
01:41:42.000 Man.
01:41:43.000 This is keto cookies, too It was actually we are we are not sponsored by question All right, let's see KM says Michael Graves instead of Danzig whack Uh, Michael Graves couldn't make it, unfortunately.
01:42:01.000 Eventually.
01:42:01.000 He'll be here.
01:42:01.000 Eventually.
01:42:02.000 He had to reschedule.
01:42:02.000 Yeah, we were really excited, but, you know, these last-minute things, that's why we're like, we never announce guests.
01:42:08.000 And I said it, I was like, we don't normally do this, but Michael Graves is coming, and then he's like, I can't make it, dude, and I'm like, ugh.
01:42:08.000 Right.
01:42:13.000 Your mom says, when are the Friday night music jams coming back?
01:42:18.000 Wait until we get the new space set up at Firdamistan.
01:42:23.000 It's gonna be awesome.
01:42:24.000 Oh yeah.
01:42:25.000 Friday night.
01:42:26.000 What I wanted to do was actually have semi-members only Friday nights.
01:42:31.000 So what we would do is, here's what I'm thinking for the next year.
01:42:35.000 By March we should have the building.
01:42:37.000 By maybe May, we should have the studio.
01:42:40.000 So we're talking about end of next spring and getting into next summer.
01:42:43.000 What we can do is, on Friday night shows, after the show ends, we keep it going live, and we have about 20 website members who can sign up for tickets or put on a wait list for them, and then you get invited out to come hang out.
01:42:56.000 Or do a concert outside with thousands of people coming in.
01:42:59.000 We'll do that, but we can't do that every Friday.
01:43:01.000 You know, so it would be like 20 to 30 people in this big space hanging out as like a mixer with drinks and snacks and some music.
01:43:07.000 And then we'll film the music, but maybe like once a month or every other month.
01:43:11.000 Once a month raver.
01:43:12.000 Big raver.
01:43:13.000 Outdoor stage.
01:43:15.000 We'll get like a big band, like, like legit, you know, we'll hire a legit big band and we'll have tons of people, but that requires a ton of logistics.
01:43:22.000 Comedians.
01:43:23.000 Y'all definitely dude.
01:43:24.000 Definitely.
01:43:25.000 We're super stoked on working with Ryan Long, because that dude is a genius.
01:43:28.000 Oh, he's funny.
01:43:29.000 I just got to see him when I was in California like a month ago.
01:43:32.000 He was hilarious.
01:43:33.000 He's great.
01:43:35.000 Absolutely fantastic.
01:43:35.000 All right, let's see.
01:43:36.000 James Gross says, I saw the RA show from yesterday this morning, and he was hammering the black experience as a topic.
01:43:42.000 Got me wondering if you'd consider asking Anthony Brian Logan on the show.
01:43:47.000 I'm not familiar with him.
01:43:47.000 Oh, he's awesome.
01:43:48.000 He's an interesting person.
01:43:50.000 He's great.
01:43:51.000 Yeah.
01:43:51.000 What's his bit?
01:43:52.000 What do you say, Shane?
01:43:53.000 He just covers the culture war, I think.
01:43:58.000 He wears great hats.
01:43:59.000 He does, yeah, that's also true.
01:44:01.000 He's fantastic.
01:44:01.000 He's really smart.
01:44:03.000 He's cool.
01:44:03.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:44:04.000 Bob Samarczyk says, as a Slavic person of color, I'm personally offended by the white privilege demonstrated by tonight's panel.
01:44:10.000 Oh, wow.
01:44:11.000 Damn right.
01:44:12.000 I should have been leading the show here.
01:44:14.000 You should be root cast.
01:44:16.000 Yeah, Luke.
01:44:17.000 But Luke, what percentage Polish are you?
01:44:19.000 Are you 100%?
01:44:19.000 100%.
01:44:19.000 You're 100%?
01:44:19.000 Wow.
01:44:19.000 I'm about 40% Polish, though.
01:44:23.000 So you're mixed race?
01:44:24.000 Yeah, I am.
01:44:25.000 Irish, too.
01:44:26.000 I'm here, you're like, down here in the totem pole.
01:44:30.000 Well, I don't know, actually.
01:44:32.000 That would make Shane mixed race.
01:44:33.000 So yeah, there's less mixed race people.
01:44:35.000 But I'm totally Slavic.
01:44:37.000 So if I'm half black and you're 100% black.
01:44:40.000 This is the beauty of intersectionality.
01:44:42.000 I just want to know who's more impressed.
01:44:45.000 I'm right here.
01:44:46.000 Who can break down?
01:44:48.000 Is there like a chart breaking down the quadrants?
01:44:50.000 Yeah, we need this.
01:44:53.000 Don't try to get in between me and my people's struggles.
01:44:56.000 My family left Poland too.
01:44:58.000 Yours fought them.
01:44:59.000 No, I left Poland.
01:45:01.000 That's right, you left Poland.
01:45:02.000 I left Poland.
01:45:03.000 That's real.
01:45:03.000 I left New York.
01:45:04.000 Oh, I mean... That's Poland of today.
01:45:08.000 Poland 2.0, yeah.
01:45:09.000 The Poland's actually doing really good now.
01:45:11.000 That's right, this is a good one.
01:45:12.000 Nova Carrillo says, Vosch's take on the RA video.
01:45:14.000 Quote, look, Tim Pool is a conservative and that means by necessity you're going to be a racist.
01:45:19.000 Exactly.
01:45:21.000 I think Vosch needs to just watch the show.
01:45:23.000 He would benefit, yes.
01:45:25.000 What does Vosch think of black conservatives if black people can't be racist?
01:45:28.000 I don't think he believes that.
01:45:30.000 I don't think he believes that.
01:45:30.000 Oh, okay.
01:45:31.000 Yeah, like, we've actually had really good conversations, and I think for the most part, on the core of issues, we agree, but on reality, he lives in a left bubble.
01:45:40.000 Like, I actually pulled up proof of that with Ground News showing, you know, like, what, 85% of his interaction is all left-wing media.
01:45:49.000 So I don't think he actually knows the perspective of us or people on the right.
01:45:53.000 So he can certainly understand the things that the left are doing that he disagrees with that are principally wrong, but he doesn't understand what our opinions are.
01:46:02.000 When he came here, he was like, you're far right.
01:46:04.000 And I was like, what?
01:46:05.000 Have you ever listened to what I've had to say?
01:46:07.000 I was like, I can understand someone calling me a moderate centrist or even center-right if they want to make an argument, but like far-right and even conservative?
01:46:14.000 Not only has he listened to you, but he's never listened to a far-right person then.
01:46:17.000 Right.
01:46:18.000 If he's actually saying that.
01:46:19.000 Yeah.
01:46:19.000 And what does far-right really mean?
01:46:20.000 I don't know.
01:46:21.000 Nothing anymore.
01:46:21.000 It doesn't mean anything.
01:46:22.000 They're like laissez-faire capitalists or are they Nazis?
01:46:24.000 Right.
01:46:24.000 Liberal doesn't mean anything either.
01:46:27.000 Classical liberal, but people might see that and think that's far-right depending on where you're standing on the spectrum.
01:46:31.000 Alright, I gotta address it.
01:46:32.000 ReallyNow says, not gonna lie, last night was the first time I disliked a Timcast and that guest was dumb.
01:46:37.000 Well, I'll put it this way.
01:46:39.000 You are free to dislike all of our videos if you believe that the video and the substance of the content we produce deserves to be disliked.
01:46:46.000 But I will push back and say, if you dislike the content we produce, like you click the button, because you disagree with the guest, well that hurts us.
01:46:55.000 Right.
01:46:55.000 That hurts us in the long run.
01:46:57.000 So my attitude is like, I think it was good that we had RA on the show and we had this discussion and heated debate.
01:47:04.000 Because I don't want to be in an echo chamber.
01:47:05.000 I want to bring on guests that argue with us and challenge us.
01:47:09.000 And I thought it was actually a fantastic example of everything I disagree with when it comes to wokeness.
01:47:14.000 And so I thought that was good.
01:47:15.000 I thought it was good.
01:47:16.000 And some people even pointed out, you got to hear me, Luke, and Lydia and Ian express our ideas on issues more in depth than we normally would because we usually don't have someone there presenting those arguments.
01:47:27.000 So I think it's good, and if you like the show, then you give us a like.
01:47:32.000 If you don't like a particular show, just because whatever, feel free to give us a dislike.
01:47:37.000 Eric Miller says, maybe wokeness isn't a cult, but an infection, and they're just mindless super spreaders.
01:47:42.000 I think R.A.
01:47:43.000 was just trapped in a CRT bubble to the point he just strawmanned all night.
01:47:47.000 But respect for showing up.
01:47:49.000 Yeah, and Lydia, you sent him video, so he knew exactly.
01:47:52.000 But I think the problem was that was his only exposure to the show.
01:47:56.000 So like, he didn't see the seven or eight videos I made saying that Chauvin was wrong.
01:48:01.000 He saw only the court trial videos where I was like, whoa, the prosecutor dropped screwing this case up like crazy, and it looks like on the merits of manslaughter case.
01:48:08.000 He didn't like that.
01:48:09.000 But he didn't see anything else I said, anything else I reported on.
01:48:12.000 It's funny when people are like, when have you ever spoken up about what happened with George Floyd?
01:48:15.000 And I'm like, here's five video links to my videos.
01:48:19.000 And people are like, oh, whoa, I didn't know that.
01:48:20.000 I'm like, just watch my show, dude.
01:48:23.000 Don't get your news from memes.
01:48:25.000 I'm more than a meme.
01:48:26.000 People get their news from memes, man.
01:48:28.000 Yeah, for sure.
01:48:28.000 You know?
01:48:30.000 Okay.
01:48:31.000 Daniel Irving says, part of the problem is that most people that scream racist have never seen an actual racist.
01:48:36.000 And I love it how, yesterday, I kept calling R.A.
01:48:39.000 racist, and the left was, like, upset about it.
01:48:43.000 They were like, how dare he?
01:48:44.000 And I'm like, I don't know, it's kind of weird, because, like... Technically correct.
01:48:48.000 Yeah, he's a white dude, right?
01:48:49.000 Isn't he inherently racist?
01:48:50.000 And he can do no... He can do no... Like, he has to... He has to accept his racism and bow down to CRT and all that stuff?
01:48:57.000 All right, let's see if we got some other, uh, what is this?
01:49:00.000 Joshua Allbritton says, can I please get a business shout out for Papa Allbritton's Florida cow whips?
01:49:06.000 Hope you received and liked the whip I made for you.
01:49:09.000 I'm trying to sell enough to earn 4k for tuition for trucking school.
01:49:11.000 Oh, very cool.
01:49:12.000 Oh my gosh.
01:49:13.000 Is this the guy that sent the whip?
01:49:14.000 Cause I freaking love whips.
01:49:16.000 My dad used to have one and I still know how to work one and I love it.
01:49:19.000 It's awesome.
01:49:19.000 This is a family-friendly show, Linda, please.
01:49:22.000 I just thought that was like a racist dog whistle.
01:49:25.000 I don't know about that one, Lydia.
01:49:28.000 No, it was really well-made.
01:49:30.000 It's really well-tightly braided.
01:49:31.000 Oh, I'm sure it was.
01:49:32.000 Alright, Olivia, calm down.
01:49:34.000 The show's taking a great turn.
01:49:36.000 I'm just saying.
01:49:37.000 I had to bring it there.
01:49:38.000 Thanks, Olivia.
01:49:39.000 Alright, Luke, calm down.
01:49:42.000 Okay.
01:49:42.000 Zorork Graft says, bro, RA is so far gone that last year he made a statement saying
01:49:48.000 he was a better rapper than Eminem.
01:49:50.000 The full amount of delusion is understandable now.
01:49:53.000 Well, I don't know about being better than Eminem, but I will say he's actually really
01:49:58.000 He's pretty good.
01:49:59.000 Did you see Eminem's rap against Trump?
01:50:02.000 I mean, there's an argument to make there.
01:50:06.000 Eminem made an anti-woke rap that was just not really that good.
01:50:09.000 Eminem's had good stuff in the past.
01:50:12.000 But, look, just because you guys don't like the argument we got into, and I'm critical of the guy, I legit think you gotta watch his stuff because he is really good at what he does.
01:50:22.000 But I think even he said it, that one of the things that held him back from bigger fame and notoriety was that he was a hothead.
01:50:29.000 And that, you know, there are stories about him, like, you know, being really disrespectful and angry with producers and companies.
01:50:36.000 And so that, you know, kept him away from bigger stuff, but he's still really big and really famous.
01:50:40.000 He's an amazing lyricist.
01:50:41.000 He worked with Biggie, he worked with Wu-Tang, he worked with Mobb Deep.
01:50:43.000 He's got a he's got a video criticizing the media. It's Amazing his Twitter feed is like free Assange. Yeah speech
01:50:50.000 stuff. I was like, it's nothing like what I was he's an amazing lyricist
01:50:54.000 Oh, yeah, he worked with Biggie. He worked with Wu Tang.
01:50:56.000 Yeah with Mob deep so I mean he's been around very long time, but
01:51:01.000 there's a video I think I mean, he's a good rapper, man.
01:51:07.000 He's good.
01:51:08.000 Now, if he wants to come out and say he's better than Eminem and stuff, I just feel like it's a little bit arrogant, I guess.
01:51:14.000 Maybe he was trolling?
01:51:15.000 Right.
01:51:15.000 Or it's just the hip hop, you know, stuff like he's going to, you know, create kind of beef or whatever.
01:51:20.000 Or whatever.
01:51:20.000 I don't know.
01:51:21.000 But don't judge a person's talents based on their political opinions.
01:51:25.000 Because I'll tell you this, Chris Evans has got a garbage bag full of trash opinions in my view, but I think he's a great actor.
01:51:32.000 I thought he did a really great job in Knives Out.
01:51:34.000 I thought the movie was great.
01:51:35.000 A little woke, but you know, still a pretty good movie.
01:51:38.000 And, you know, I don't know.
01:51:41.000 We can separate art from the artist, right?
01:51:45.000 Alright, let's grab some more of these super chats here.
01:51:48.000 Brendan Does says the Salty Cracker is being banned on Rumble right now.
01:51:52.000 If Dave Rubin is defending Rumble's recent business changes, ask him directly why such a freedom-centered and outspoken individual is being cancelled at this very moment.
01:52:00.000 Why is Salty Cracker being banned on Rumble?
01:52:03.000 I don't know that channel. Well, well, I guess I don't know a lot about the core substance of what their views are
01:52:10.000 I know that these get the salty crew they come in the chat all the time and they're shouting them out and everything
01:52:13.000 like that But I honestly I can't say that I care. I don't think rumble
01:52:17.000 should be censoring anybody anybody. Yep. I Don't know man
01:52:22.000 Let the law handle it, right?
01:52:24.000 Let the government, let the law... If it's legal... Exactly.
01:52:26.000 If it's legal, speech, allow it.
01:52:28.000 I think there are issues about not having to promote certain things.
01:52:33.000 Like, Rumble's got a front page where it's like podcasts and other shows that they editorially promote.
01:52:40.000 I don't think you're entitled to that.
01:52:41.000 I don't think I'm entitled to that.
01:52:43.000 If my content can be on Rumble and people can go find it through the URL and search for it and there's no shadow banning, they don't have to market me.
01:52:49.000 But actively removing stuff?
01:52:51.000 They should not be doing that.
01:52:54.000 But we'll see.
01:52:54.000 We're talking with the guys over at Rumble.
01:52:57.000 Maybe we'll have someone from the Rumble team come out here and do a show with us and talk about all this stuff.
01:53:02.000 I think that'd be very great.
01:53:03.000 And we have some ideas.
01:53:04.000 Look, Rumble is a net positive.
01:53:07.000 A huge net positive.
01:53:08.000 Everything that's going on with Rumble is great.
01:53:10.000 It's good.
01:53:11.000 I just feel like it's short-term, not long-term solution.
01:53:13.000 And so, I'm worried about it.
01:53:15.000 And I think, I will say this too, as far as it goes with Rumble.
01:53:18.000 The criticisms that I've had are mostly about what might end up happening to Rumble.
01:53:24.000 That is bad for us.
01:53:25.000 But I will say, everything happening now is a net positive.
01:53:28.000 You know, competition for Silicon Valley and all that stuff is a good thing.
01:53:33.000 All right.
01:53:34.000 Derek Watkins says Senate version of the NDAA changed Section 716 allowing natural immunity and Section 720 allowing general under honorable conditions, meaning military members can lose GI Bill education benefits.
01:53:46.000 Whoa.
01:53:48.000 See, this is what I thought.
01:53:48.000 This is what I thought.
01:53:49.000 Tony Gillard says, Luke is a JoJo fan.
01:53:51.000 I'm offended and amazed.
01:53:52.000 I definitely need that shirt.
01:53:54.000 I thought it was an anime reference.
01:53:56.000 No, no.
01:53:57.000 It's a very deep reference to the politically understanding.
01:54:01.000 If you watch this show, we made a reference to this, you know, JoJo saying.
01:54:07.000 And you really got to be deep in the weeds to understand this one.
01:54:10.000 So this is a carefully curated shirt for the people who are in the know.
01:54:15.000 Really, now, says it wasn't the argument.
01:54:19.000 He drove me nuts.
01:54:20.000 He provided no sources.
01:54:21.000 They didn't like the way he spoke, but I don't... He had a Brooklyn accent.
01:54:26.000 Whatever.
01:54:27.000 Yeah, well, I'll tell you this.
01:54:29.000 Well, no, I'm gonna leave it there.
01:54:30.000 I don't want to beat a dead horse, because I'm just gonna be saying the same thing I said already.
01:54:35.000 Ashley Parrish says Timcast IRL is becoming popular here in Houston suburbs.
01:54:39.000 Had two different cars pull up next to me tonight with it blasting from their speakers.
01:54:42.000 Wow, that's crazy.
01:54:44.000 It's so weird to be on Twitter and like I was trending nationwide and I'm just like, I don't like that.
01:54:53.000 Vosh had a really funny tweet.
01:54:55.000 It was a meme where it was like, I can't remember.
01:54:58.000 It was a meme where it was like, I fear nothing, but there's one thing that really scares me.
01:55:01.000 And then it like, he, you know, whatever that meme is.
01:55:03.000 And it pointed to, it said trending Vosh.
01:55:05.000 And I'm like, I know that feeling.
01:55:06.000 Like, I don't want to know why people, why I'm trending.
01:55:08.000 What are they talking about?
01:55:09.000 I didn't even see the Ari stuff until like a few hours ago.
01:55:12.000 And so when I like woke up and saw the message from Liz, I can come on and I see you trending and I see the clips.
01:55:16.000 I was like, it's a trap.
01:55:18.000 Yeah.
01:55:19.000 I was like, it's a trap.
01:55:22.000 No, we were going to have Michael Graves on, but he couldn't come.
01:55:24.000 So we were like, who can come at such short notice?
01:55:27.000 Who's nearby or whatever.
01:55:28.000 The afterthought, Olivia.
01:55:30.000 I was downstairs drinking.
01:55:32.000 Ian wasn't here either.
01:55:34.000 And I was like, who's available right now?
01:55:36.000 We've got no guests and Ian's gone too.
01:55:38.000 And then I was like, oh, Shane, you got a book?
01:55:40.000 Yeah.
01:55:40.000 Why don't you come up and hang out?
01:55:41.000 Shout out to Chris Carr for these drinks.
01:55:44.000 Yeah, we had a Christmas party.
01:55:45.000 There was a Secret Santa.
01:55:47.000 We went to a local pizza place and got wings and pizza.
01:55:49.000 It was awesome.
01:55:50.000 Chris Carr, who's the executive editor for TimCast.com, he made the Grinch, the Santa, and the Rudolph drinks.
01:55:56.000 And it's all very heavy alcohol.
01:55:58.000 I can't drink.
01:55:59.000 I tasted it and I was like... It's strong.
01:56:01.000 And he edited this book.
01:56:02.000 That's right.
01:56:03.000 Yep.
01:56:04.000 And art by Jessica.
01:56:05.000 Jessica Boone.
01:56:06.000 That's right.
01:56:06.000 I got a crazy gift by Jessica.
01:56:09.000 She gave me a portrait of me with a firearm, a flag, a cowboy hat and glasses, and this crazy cool Burning Man hat that's all weird and furry.
01:56:20.000 I thought that was a $20 limit.
01:56:21.000 Yeah, she said she went to the Salvation Army.
01:56:24.000 She said she stole it.
01:56:26.000 Not the Salvation Army, like Goodwill or whatever.
01:56:29.000 And then she found it there for cheap.
01:56:30.000 And then she drew the photo.
01:56:32.000 Oh, I see.
01:56:33.000 Which is pretty cool.
01:56:33.000 I was saying her labor is worth more than $20.
01:56:35.000 Oh yeah, absolutely.
01:56:37.000 She's great.
01:56:38.000 She does amazing work.
01:56:39.000 Did you post it yet, the photo?
01:56:40.000 No, not yet.
01:56:40.000 You gotta post it on Instagram.
01:56:43.000 Alright, let's grab some more of these here.
01:56:44.000 Superchats.
01:56:45.000 I'll post it tonight on LukeWeAreChange.
01:56:48.000 Some Norwegian guy says you should have Gadsad on sometime.
01:56:51.000 Isn't he in Canada?
01:56:52.000 He is.
01:56:52.000 He has an open invitation, but we didn't want to do long-distance like a Zoom call with him.
01:56:58.000 Yeah, I don't want to do Zoom.
01:57:00.000 It doesn't really work.
01:57:01.000 It's IRL.
01:57:02.000 Yeah, it is.
01:57:04.000 Originally it was IRL because it was gonna be a vlog and then it was IRL because we were doing like, I don't know, in-person interviews or whatever.
01:57:10.000 But we've never done remote stuff.
01:57:11.000 I don't want to do remote stuff.
01:57:12.000 It doesn't have the same feel.
01:57:13.000 It doesn't have the same energy and vibes.
01:57:15.000 Like imagine yesterday's conversation over like a Zoom call.
01:57:18.000 That would have not been good.
01:57:20.000 There's no magic.
01:57:22.000 I was on Ben Shapiro's show.
01:57:25.000 I think it was a Sunday special earlier in the year.
01:57:28.000 And we had to record it because we didn't have that good of internet at the time.
01:57:32.000 I recorded it and then I had to have the memory card driven.
01:57:36.000 Drive it somewhere, not to Ben Shapiro, but we drove it somewhere with internet that took like half an hour and then upload it.
01:57:42.000 And then they basically took the recordings and overlaid them.
01:57:45.000 But it wasn't the same.
01:57:46.000 It was like, there was a... I don't know.
01:57:49.000 It just doesn't work as well.
01:57:50.000 There's no energy.
01:57:51.000 This is energy.
01:57:52.000 There's no energy, you know?
01:57:54.000 I'm looking forward to when we get a chance.
01:57:56.000 We've actually been trying to figure out having Ben Shapiro come on.
01:57:59.000 Yeah.
01:57:59.000 Because we are big fans, and I think it would be a really amazing conversation.
01:58:03.000 But of course, the dude is one of the busiest guys on the planet, and you can't ask someone not to do their show to do your show.
01:58:08.000 It just is a weird thing.
01:58:09.000 But we are actually planning on spending a week at the Daily Wire HQ.
01:58:13.000 We were planning it actually in November, but we just couldn't make it work.
01:58:17.000 It was very difficult.
01:58:18.000 And then we ended up going to Austin because we had a week to build this mobile studio, and then by then the plans for Nashville didn't make sense.
01:58:28.000 But we're thinking maybe in January, depending on the weather, because we don't want to be driving a trailer through snow and mountain and stuff, we might go to Nashville, which is not too far from here.
01:58:34.000 I think it's like nine hours.
01:58:36.000 And then hang out just outside the Daily Wire headquarters and do a week-long show with the Daily Wire crew.
01:58:42.000 And then maybe even, if Ben's in town, have him pop in like Joe did, and then do another insane Tuesday episode where we have nine people all yelling at each other, all the guys from the Daily Wire.
01:58:52.000 That was great!
01:58:53.000 That was one of our biggest shows ever, and I'm so... It was just amazing.
01:58:57.000 It was just ridiculous and great.
01:59:00.000 All right, let's read some more.
01:59:02.000 Ethan Randall says, did y'all already cover the 6th Circuit Court ruling on vaccine mandate?
01:59:06.000 Which one was that?
01:59:07.000 So many rulings.
01:59:08.000 I don't know.
01:59:09.000 Yeah, I don't know which one that was.
01:59:10.000 There was one out of California I saw, but I'm not sure.
01:59:11.000 That might be the one that reinstated it, I think.
01:59:13.000 Yeah, I think they reinstated it.
01:59:15.000 Gemini Ryder says, would you consider having Tom McDonald on the show?
01:59:18.000 Of course!
01:59:19.000 Open invitation.
01:59:19.000 Yes.
01:59:20.000 Tom's awesome.
01:59:21.000 I've spoken to him a couple times.
01:59:22.000 He's a rad dude.
01:59:23.000 E-Z-A-F.
01:59:25.000 Yes, exactly.
01:59:26.000 Tom versus R.A.? ?
01:59:28.000 No, they're friends.
01:59:29.000 They're good friends.
01:59:29.000 Oh, okay.
01:59:30.000 Well, I mean, like, in a talk.
01:59:31.000 Oh, I mean, that'd be cool.
01:59:32.000 A nice debate between two friends.
01:59:33.000 I feel like that might help simmer things down and get a real conversation going, too, especially considering they are friends.
01:59:38.000 Yeah.
01:59:38.000 And, you know, we don't know where Tom is, though, on that kind of, you know, debate.
01:59:43.000 It doesn't matter.
01:59:44.000 It'd be a good conversation.
01:59:45.000 Yeah, it'd be great.
01:59:46.000 Yeah.
01:59:47.000 Tom's rad.
01:59:48.000 Amazing music.
01:59:49.000 But I think, I think you look at his music, you kind of know where he is.
01:59:52.000 I get hints, but he kind of rags on everybody.
01:59:54.000 But he definitely has a band.
01:59:55.000 He's good.
01:59:56.000 Yeah, as you should.
01:59:57.000 This is what I like.
01:59:58.000 When I went to Joe Rogan's show a couple years ago, he ragged on everybody and everybody laughed.
02:00:02.000 Jonathan Pye.
02:00:03.000 The Jonathan Pye show I saw with him and Andrew Doyle was legit the funniest comedy performance I've ever seen.
02:00:09.000 Hands down.
02:00:10.000 I was physically in pain from laughing.
02:00:13.000 I'm not kidding.
02:00:14.000 It was like... Andrew Doyle is the dude who does the Titania McGrath Twitter.
02:00:19.000 The fake woke.
02:00:21.000 It was so... I saw him perform in New York and the beats were just so on point that I was laughing harder and harder and harder and then I was like... I can't breathe.
02:00:31.000 Yeah, it'd be awesome to have Andrew.
02:00:33.000 We're going to.
02:00:33.000 Yeah, as soon as we figure out how to get him over from the UK.
02:00:36.000 Yeah, everyone's trapped in their countries, man.
02:00:38.000 Man, I really want to get Sargon, too.
02:00:40.000 Sargon and Count Dankula, man.
02:00:41.000 You guys gotta come down.
02:00:42.000 We both have kids.
02:00:43.000 Well, they're talking about doing another two-week lockdown in the United Kingdom now, which is crazy.
02:00:48.000 Guys, you gotta apply to be refugees.
02:00:48.000 We gotta get him.
02:00:50.000 Just escape.
02:00:51.000 Come to Florida, New Hampshire.
02:00:52.000 Let's start a new life.
02:00:53.000 Seriously.
02:00:54.000 Canada is part of the Commonwealth or whatever.
02:00:55.000 You can just go there, right?
02:00:56.000 No, don't go to Canada.
02:00:57.000 You don't want to go there.
02:00:58.000 Well, at least it gets... No, no, no.
02:01:00.000 Once they get there, then they can come here.
02:01:01.000 Yeah.
02:01:02.000 Flee.
02:01:02.000 New Hampshire borders Canada.
02:01:04.000 Look at this.
02:01:05.000 Logan Doherty says, I honestly thought last night was one of the best shows thus far.
02:01:09.000 Although I was getting super heated, it was amazing content and a great conversation.
02:01:12.000 A lot of people didn't like it, but it is our most engaged with member segment ever.
02:01:17.000 It resulted in this massive viral trend.
02:01:21.000 I do not pursue this kind of Jerry Springer type interactions.
02:01:26.000 A lot of people were like, I got messages like, if you pursue this route with these like, you know, rage debates, and they're like, you'll be so big.
02:01:32.000 And I'm like, no, no, we don't want any of that.
02:01:34.000 No, thank you, man.
02:01:36.000 I never thought this operation would grow to what it is right now.
02:01:40.000 I'm like in my living room with a GoPro 4 sitting on top of my monitor, and I'm talking about things for 10 minutes.
02:01:45.000 And that's all I've ever been doing.
02:01:46.000 And then it just kept growing and getting bigger and bigger.
02:01:49.000 And now we have like 30 employees.
02:01:50.000 There's a book on the shelf by Shane edited by Chris drawn by Jessica put
02:01:55.000 together by this crazy, amazing team in this new studio.
02:01:57.000 Now we've got a 7,500 square foot, 25 foot tall, uh, building being put
02:02:04.000 together with a new studio.
02:02:06.000 And I'm just like, how did all of this come together?
02:02:09.000 It's crazy.
02:02:09.000 Because you're busy.
02:02:11.000 But I'm just having fun, man.
02:02:12.000 Yeah, I know.
02:02:13.000 But everyone here is hard working.
02:02:13.000 It's true.
02:02:15.000 Bro, how long did it take you to get that book put together?
02:02:18.000 Outside of the writing?
02:02:19.000 Outside of the writing?
02:02:20.000 I talked to you about this two weeks ago.
02:02:22.000 But we talked about it when I first met you, but I did it in two weeks.
02:02:25.000 We were, like, two weeks ago, I was like, it'd be awesome if we could get a book done by Christmas.
02:02:30.000 And you were like, I can do it.
02:02:31.000 And that's sitting right here in the show.
02:02:31.000 Done.
02:02:34.000 It's amazing.
02:02:35.000 Yeah, everybody's just working like crazy, man.
02:02:38.000 So it's really great.
02:02:39.000 But it's fun.
02:02:39.000 It is fun.
02:02:40.000 It's super fun.
02:02:40.000 I'm loving it.
02:02:41.000 Alright, we'll grab one more.
02:02:44.000 Incarnation Art says, Tim, love you, man.
02:02:46.000 Keep your head up.
02:02:47.000 Would love to see Viva Frey and Raketa Law on again.
02:02:51.000 Did I pronounce those both wrong?
02:02:53.000 And I would love to make it on one day to talk about the perspective of being mixed race and always being expected to choose.
02:02:58.000 I hear you on that one, man.
02:03:00.000 Yeah, it'd be really cool to get Viva and Rakeda on at the same time.
02:03:03.000 That'd be fun, yeah.
02:03:05.000 I don't know, it's really hard for... Viva's in Canada, so it's hard.
02:03:09.000 Where's Rakeda?
02:03:10.000 He's in New York?
02:03:11.000 Yeah, he's nearby.
02:03:12.000 He's closer, I think.
02:03:13.000 Yeah, that'd be absolutely fantastic.
02:03:14.000 And Robert Barnes again, too.
02:03:16.000 Maybe with the Kim Potter trial or something like that?
02:03:18.000 We could have a legal roundtable or something.
02:03:20.000 So, you know, we'll check it out.
02:03:23.000 And to everybody else, thanks for the super chats.
02:03:25.000 It's Friday night, so we're getting really close to the holidays, so smash that like button if you want to support the show.
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02:03:37.000 But just really quickly, if you want to support a real person of color's business, you can give me your money because of your white guilt.
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02:03:54.000 Signing up on the email list is one of the best things you guys could do since, of course, it's not a part of the big tech.
02:03:59.000 So thank you guys so much for having me on.
02:04:01.000 It was a blast.
02:04:01.000 It's fun.
02:04:02.000 I always love being here for the conversations and it's always surprising and awesome.
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02:04:15.000 And of course, right now, open a new tab and type in invertedworldbook.com and Shane can tell you all about it.
02:04:25.000 First of all, thank you for giving me the opportunity to do this.
02:04:29.000 It's a dream.
02:04:29.000 I mean, I've had so much fun.
02:04:32.000 I started this book on June 20th this year.
02:04:35.000 The first sentence was written down the road, right after I met you.
02:04:37.000 That's so awesome.
02:04:38.000 And, uh...
02:04:39.000 275 pages.
02:04:40.000 275 pages later, I talk about simulation theory, uh, and ghosts that I've, may or may not have
02:04:46.000 encountered reaching through the simulation.
02:04:49.000 I've tracked a serial killer in Long Island, which our third and final part will air on Sunday morning on YouTube at 10 a.m.
02:04:57.000 It's also on Apple and Spotify.
02:04:59.000 And yeah, it's true crime, paranormal, aliens, people being abducted, children being taken out of their rooms.
02:05:05.000 So that's invertedworldbook.com, but you're already getting started on the next book, which I'm really excited for.
02:05:12.000 This one's a bit of just like a collection of tales, but the next one is Ghost of the Civil War, which is murder, conspiracies, lost gold, UFOs.
02:05:21.000 Yeah, this is like the age of COVID paranoia and the paranormal stuff going through it all.
02:05:29.000 It was just cool when you were telling me about the people down there and their anger towards Sherman.
02:05:34.000 I wore a West Point hat when I went down there.
02:05:34.000 Oh yeah.
02:05:36.000 That's where I grew up, on a military base.
02:05:37.000 And all the Civil War generals came from there.
02:05:41.000 So I thought it was a good middle ground.
02:05:42.000 But Sherman's a bad word.
02:05:44.000 Burned down everything.
02:05:44.000 to hear that and then to hear these people, the stories, like you guys gotta understand,
02:05:49.000 like the stuff, I don't want to spoil anything, but some of the creepy conspiracy stuff going
02:05:53.000 on down there related to this stuff is crazy.
02:05:56.000 I'm in tunnels under the city.
02:05:58.000 I've got ground penetrating radar looking for skeletons.
02:06:00.000 We've got to get that one.
02:06:00.000 I'm like, the first one's out.
02:06:02.000 We've got to get that one out.
02:06:03.000 It's going to be so cool.
02:06:04.000 Six months, probably.
02:06:05.000 Six months?
02:06:05.000 Next book.
02:06:06.000 Yeah, dude.
02:06:07.000 The art's going to be fantastic.
02:06:08.000 And then I'm excited for, loosely, we're talking about this, the Chicago Mafia, Ghost Stories, Al Capone, Bachelor's Grove.
02:06:14.000 It's going to be so amazing.
02:06:16.000 You got social media you want to shout out?
02:06:18.000 I'm Shane Cashman everywhere.
02:06:19.000 I also co-host a podcast called Ready Slow with Sean Strong, and I have a members-only podcast I do in the old IRL studio.
02:06:27.000 It's on TimCast.com.
02:06:28.000 That comes out every Sunday night.
02:06:31.000 And check out the book, InvertedWorldBook.com.
02:06:34.000 Yeah, so actually, on TimCast.com, there's members-only segments once a week about these stories that you've investigated.
02:06:40.000 So some of them are crazy DMT aliens.
02:06:43.000 But we are actually putting together an additional add-on to that, which I think... I don't know where you guys are on that.
02:06:49.000 I think we're going to record it tomorrow.
02:06:50.000 Like, uh, so it's you and Chris Carr just generally talking conspiracy.
02:06:53.000 Yeah.
02:06:54.000 Yeah.
02:06:56.000 So it's like a whole new show actually.
02:06:57.000 Yeah.
02:06:58.000 We're trying to figure out how to do it because we don't want it to like interfere with inverted world because they're similar, but this is the general conversation on just like general mystery.
02:07:07.000 I think we're going to come with articles and we'll all kind of discuss like a round table, a very specific thing.
02:07:11.000 Instead of me just kind of like spinning.
02:07:12.000 Like this is, this is you investigating stories and telling these stories.
02:07:15.000 And this one is discussion of conspiracies and mysteries and stuff.
02:07:18.000 For sure.
02:07:18.000 It's going to be awesome, man.
02:07:19.000 Awesome.
02:07:20.000 Uh, Olivia, you got stuff you want to shout out, right?
02:07:22.000 Yeah, well I've been a Tim Cass contributor for a few months.
02:07:25.000 I have a new article coming out shortly.
02:07:28.000 I'm waiting for Chris to get back to me, but it's basically examining the history of racism, anti-blackness in the Democratic Party, how it affects people today, and why white liberals feel comfortable taking away black conservatives or black independents' blackness for their own benefit.
02:07:46.000 So that should be out shortly.
02:07:47.000 I'm on all social media platforms, O-L-I-V-I-A-R-O-N-D-E-A-U, and I also have a baby YouTube channel if you guys want to subscribe to that, too.
02:07:54.000 It's under my name as well.
02:07:56.000 Sweet!
02:07:57.000 Thanks for coming!
02:07:57.000 Thank you so much!
02:07:58.000 Thank you guys very much for tuning in for the newer, calmer version of Timcast, where we reflect on our wild and crazy days yesterday.
02:08:04.000 It was very fun and exciting, and I feel like we learned a lot, and I feel like we had a good conversation.
02:08:09.000 So, thank you all for tuning in then, and for tuning in now, you guys may follow me on Twitter, Somebody said, did you hear Jack Murphy freak out on Sydney?
02:08:17.000 I'm seeing those comments too.
02:08:18.000 What happened?
02:08:18.000 I don't know.
02:08:20.000 No.
02:08:21.000 I don't believe it.
02:08:22.000 I don't believe it.
02:08:23.000 They both have some freak out.
02:08:24.000 It's probably him arguing and it's like, sure.
02:08:27.000 I hope.
02:08:27.000 I don't know.
02:08:28.000 We need sports and mandates.
02:08:30.000 No.
02:08:32.000 I don't know.
02:08:32.000 We'll see.
02:08:33.000 All right, everybody.
02:08:33.000 We're gonna get out of here.
02:08:34.000 Have a good weekend.
02:08:35.000 Love you, Jack.
02:08:36.000 Merry Christmas, everybody, if we don't see you.
02:08:38.000 We're only gonna be doing Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday next week because Ian's not here.
02:08:42.000 And Christmas.
02:08:43.000 Luke's... I don't even think Luke's gonna be on Wednesday.
02:08:45.000 I'm not gonna be here.
02:08:46.000 And then I'm leaving on Thursday.
02:08:47.000 Yeah, I'm out too.
02:08:49.000 Yeah.
02:08:49.000 All right.
02:08:50.000 There we go.
02:08:50.000 Merry Christmas if we don't see you, but we'll be back Monday.
02:08:53.000 Thanks for hanging out.
02:08:53.000 We'll see y'all then.