General Mark Milley's treasonous phone call to China, Nicki Minaj's suspension from the social media platform, and why culture is more important than politics in the modern world. Plus, a possible coup attempt against President Trump.
00:00:32.000we got a lot of crazy news my friends Mark Milley confirms the quote-unquote treason phone call with China, which I would say, uh, colloquially, in the personal sense, uh, yeah, treason.
00:01:19.000After everything China has done, Mark Milley on October called them and said, which basically gave them carte blanche.
00:01:27.000And then they continued to put pressure over the past year in the South China Sea, sink in Vietnamese fishing boats as they've been doing.
00:01:34.000Now they're being seen up in Alaska because Mark Milley's like, don't worry, and even if we do attack you, we'll give you advanced warning.
00:01:41.000Milley then had, according to this report, a secret meeting to subvert the chain of command.
00:01:47.000The Hill reported this, saying he had a meeting with senior official officers, telling them to report to him to try and circumvent Donald Trump's orders as president, which Alexander Vindman, of all people, said is usurping civilian authority.
00:02:01.000And we heard from the DoD in the New York Times story, would be a military coup.
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00:11:38.000Like, literally, as we were sitting down, I was like, Mark Milley, traitor to the United States, when I'm slamming the table down, and then we're like, Now, I don't think it's necessarily more important than Mark Milley, a general, calling China and giving them warning about U.S.
00:11:58.000plans, but I do think this is significant.
00:13:51.000So she tweeted this thing out, and the media then started claiming Here's what they said.
00:13:56.000In this CNN clip, they said she cited that reason as to why she's not getting vaccinated, which is not true.
00:14:04.000Now, I gotta say, I actually had a minor argument with our friends over at TimCast.com talking about the article that was written up, because the original headline was like, Nicki Minaj says she won't get vaccinated to attend the Met Gala or something.
00:14:18.000And then people were like, that's not a fair headline.
00:14:20.000And I don't agree with the framing either.
00:14:38.000Yeah, but I don't like that because Nicki Minaj said that the reason she's not traveling is
00:14:44.000because she had a baby. And then she mentioned she's not getting, she's not going, the Met
00:14:49.000Gala wanted the vaccines. And if she was going to get the vaccine, it wouldn't be for them.
00:14:53.000This title I feel like makes it seem like she didn't go to the Met Gala because she didn't want to get vaccinated.
00:15:00.000And so we discussed it and it's like, look, the headline is true.
00:15:02.000She said she wouldn't get vaccinated for the Met Gala.
00:15:05.000Like, I don't know how else we should frame it, like make a really long headline, and I'm like, alright, whatever, I defer to your judgment.
00:15:11.000But some people in the comments posted something, and I'm like, good, you know, I'll let that be known.
00:15:23.000There was a way to do it, but I hear what you're saying.
00:15:25.000I guess the issue is, you need the proper context.
00:15:27.000The reason she didn't go, she stated, before any of this controversy, somebody was like, why haven't you done an appearance in a year?
00:15:35.000She goes, I just had a baby, I'm not traveling.
00:15:37.000Then when they were like, the Met Gala, she said, they require Vaxmanid, I wouldn't get it for them anyway.
00:15:42.000But if you look at the full context of what she's been saying, she didn't go, not because of the vaccine, she even said she would get one to go on tour.
00:15:48.000She didn't go because she's got a kid and she doesn't want to travel.
00:15:51.000So now they're claiming one of the reasons she won't get vaccinated is because of swollen testicles.
00:15:57.000This is the crazy thing that people need to understand.
00:15:59.000When Sarah Palin was running with McCain, Tina Fey, who I think Tina Fey is brilliant, did this bit where she's like, I can see Russia from my house!
00:16:10.000Sarah Palin never said anything like that.
00:16:14.000What Sarah Palin did say was something like, you know, in terms of foreign policy, you can actually see Russia from the westernmost point of Alaska.
00:16:23.000And we actually have to negotiate with them on the Strait on trade.
00:16:25.000So I think, you know, this is a major benefit for the office of the presidency.
00:16:28.000And I'm like, it's actually a really great point.
00:16:30.000As governor of Alaska, you have that trade route that goes between the Bering Strait or whatever.
00:16:35.000And that means she has to work with Russia.
00:17:16.000And so Nicki Minaj responded to him and other people saying like, dude, I can point out when someone's telling the truth that doesn't make me political or whatever.
00:18:01.000Whatever tip that is, they're on their own one.
00:18:04.000And I thought it was admirable, actually, what she said, which is that, like, I'm not traveling because I have a baby.
00:18:09.000And I may or may not get the vaccine, but I sure as heck aren't getting the vaccine just to go to some stupid party with some lady wearing tax the rich on her butt.
00:18:23.000I probably don't appreciate her value so much.
00:18:25.000But at the same time, I can see how her associations and her willingness to question the narratives and her willingness to just speak her mind.
00:18:34.000Wasn't she the one that, like, saw, like, her tax bill or whatever, and she's just, like, going off on the taxes?
00:18:40.000I mean, that all makes perfect sense to me.
00:18:42.000These are just things normal people say.
00:18:59.000But it is a swamp with some kind of swamp piranha.
00:19:04.000And if you, you know, look, Nicki Minaj comes out and she said, you know, they don't they don't care about anything, she says, until she said, prey on it and make the choice for yourself, as we often say.
00:19:16.000And that is the no, no, no, no phrase.
00:19:21.000If I go down a road, I'm not allowed to go down.
00:19:23.000But the bottom line for me is that I've come to understand that this is a personal choice.
00:19:27.000And frankly, You know, I don't know where this is going to go because, you know, I'm sensitive to all these things because I don't want to say the wrong thing.
00:20:35.000When someone is like, after 28 years of research, and we have this vaccine or whatever, or decades, and then we've come to a legislative decision after many votes and many hearings on it.
00:20:43.000That's the key phrase, legislative decision.
00:20:47.000Well, when I elect somebody, and they say, we're gonna have a hearing in the Senate Committee on X, and it's having to do with vaccines, I'm like, these are all normal processes that I can watch on TV, can hear the arguments, and then there's a vote on it, and it's put through a legislative process.
00:21:12.000I want to let you finish your thought.
00:21:16.000There's no medical exemptions, there's no religious exemptions, and now you can see the government is giving exemptions only when they're scared.
00:21:27.000But the nurses in New York, they were running short on nurses because nurses were refusing to get vaccinated.
00:21:32.000And then the courts reversed it saying, okay, if you're a medical worker, you're good now because they were like, people are quitting and that's critical infrastructure.
00:21:40.000When someone's like, we have a hundred, we have hundreds of years of data on like polio and kids have like a 20% chance of like disability.
00:21:48.000And like, by the time you're 50, you know, you're negatively impacted.
00:21:51.000And we have this vaccine fine after a long period of time that I get.
00:21:54.000When an executive just comes out and says it, and we have no long-term health effects or risk for pregnancy because the FDA insert doesn't include, it's like, we don't have data on that.
00:22:03.000I can respect someone saying, I'm gonna wait.
00:22:06.000You can't come to me and try and get in between me and my doctor.
00:22:59.000So when I, when I tweeted, don't just pull into a parking lot, go talk to your doctor, get them on the phone, ask them the questions you got to ask them.
00:23:07.000People were like, why would you do that?
00:23:36.000And a law should be negotiated, discussed, debated in public and voted upon by your representatives that you send to Congress because it's going to affect basically everybody.
00:23:46.00080 million people, I think, is what the target was with that 100 and up incorporation.
00:23:51.000I think they said it'll affect 100 million.
00:23:53.000So what this is is a prime example of the way that the administrative state and the judiciary have stripped the legislature of all their power and basically ended our democracy, okay?
00:24:04.000You have administrative state executive branch agencies that create a rule then they, it basically becomes law, then somebody files
00:24:12.000lawsuit and the judge rules on whether or not that law is right.
00:24:16.000That is how, or whether or not that rule is right. That is how laws are being made in America today, independent of
00:24:27.000When the executive branch, administrative offices can make a rule, someone can protest it in the courts, and the courts rule on its validity, and then it becomes law.
00:24:35.000That way, that means our republic is dead.
00:24:57.000By people who believe they're experts in their field, that they can scientific method their way to perfection, that they can resolve all human conflict and issues if we just try harder, legislate harder, administer harder.
00:25:35.000We elect a representative for our area, they go and have a meeting where they draft a bill, say we want this to be law, that goes from their committees into the greater chamber where they vote on it, and then the executive signs off on it or vetoes it.
00:25:48.000If there's a veto, and this is how most states work and how the federal government works, if they veto it, then you need a greater majority in the legislation to overrule him.
00:25:57.000The executor, the executive, the sovereign, drafts a rule to the people saying, you must comply!
00:26:05.000And the people are allowed, only if negatively impacted, to question that law.
00:26:12.000And then the courts, as you mentioned, will weigh as to whether or not the negative impact would justify striking down the executive decree.
00:26:23.000That's very, very different from my representative drafts a bill, it goes to committee, there's a debate on it, there's hearings.
00:26:29.000We're at the point right now where Joe Biden has done this on more than one occasion, completely shutting out the legislative and judicial branches.
00:27:50.000When the legislature was founded in America, They would, the details on the laws would be like 600 tons of this, 42 tons of that, 1,000 feet of this, 10 miles of that.
00:29:25.000Do you think law enforcement will come out to serve property seizures and arrest warrants for tax evasion when the IRS... They don't have to.
00:30:04.000But I'm just saying, if a warrant was issued due to failure to pay taxes or some criminal liability defined within the tax code, do you think that cop is going to be like, for the vaccine mandate?
00:30:45.000I remember in the in the late 90s, my first job was working for a consulting company that was still doing savings and loan bailout work from the 80s.
00:30:53.000So an entire industry was built around what happened with the savings and loans in the 80s.
00:30:58.000An entire industry has just been born, just been birthed around the vaccine mandate, around vaccine compliance, around vaccine audits, around testing audits, and negotiating and litigating.
00:31:15.000This is a massive industry that was just created overnight and there's a thousand million consultants out there jumping at the bit to start their own business.
00:31:46.000And all of it says is that they pretextually need want to accomplish something.
00:31:51.000And then they go about finding the way to get that done rather than using their constitutionally granted powers to exert the things that they've been elected to do.
00:32:44.000Your second amendment here is being able to hire lawyers, being able to hire accountants to defend you from these liens and seizures that are going to come.
00:35:00.000He's in favor of the government seizing your property.
00:35:03.000Of the government the authority taking property from the working class away from them
00:35:07.000He's in favor of executive decree mandating people be medicated same thing is true for Vosh. They're not libertarians
00:35:14.000They can you know respect for Vosh coming on the show and having these debates, but he says he's a libertarian
00:35:18.000socialist No, he isn't he celebrates the government mandating forced
00:35:21.000medication on the people okay now I get it if it's a legislative decision. There's a
00:35:27.000democratic process of Liberty where it's like we've come together to have a
00:35:32.000discussion about what is right for the community Some people won't like it, but hey, in a republic, you don't always win.
00:35:37.000And that means some people will still have to abide by an authority, but not authoritarianism, which would mean...
00:35:44.000My view is, oh, vaccine mandates, if there's a long process, if there's long-term studies, if it's been argued out in the public, and we're not in a state of panic when we do it.
00:35:56.000Authoritarian position is, the executor and sovereign shall decree the plebs do as they're told.
00:36:03.000Man, you keep using this word sovereign.
00:36:28.000And that and that concept is born of the fact that when John Adams had to go to the Constitutional Convention or whatever, he had to ride a horse.
00:36:36.000It took him, you know, freaking four weeks to get there.
00:36:39.000But today, yo, OK, Thomas Massey will explain.
00:36:44.000That the legislators could be in DC in a matter of hours.
00:36:51.000It's been 18 months and they have not convened a session, to my knowledge, on the floor of Congress to be like, hey all, what should we do about this Corona thing?
00:37:39.000You ever see this video where the guy's in a mall or he's in a supermarket and he's got a mask and there's a woman filming and he's stalking her around yelling at her for not wearing a mask and he goes, is anybody else mad that we have to wear masks and she doesn't?
00:38:38.000It seems like nobody in the airport really cares until you actually get on the plane.
00:38:43.000And on the last flight I was on, the captain came out and instead of the flight attendant making the little spiel, the captain comes out and he's like, look, I'm supposed to say this real long thing, but I'm just going to tell you the way I see it.
00:40:01.000The guy who came out and literally said, I'm enforcing this right now.
00:40:04.000But Jack was just saying he didn't, he seemed like he didn't want to be there.
00:40:07.000It seemed to me he was defending his flight attendant.
00:40:10.000Which is the problem that I have with all this, is that all these mandates have deputized normal, ordinary people into becoming the police.
00:40:58.000That's what, that's what I felt like his motivation was.
00:41:00.000So I can appreciate, I can appreciate that.
00:41:03.000I can appreciate not, just like I don't want to be bullied into taking the vaccine, I don't want to be bullied into bullying my own staff to do things.
00:41:12.000What would happen if he didn't do anything?
00:42:16.000You're highlighting the major issue here, which is that the government is putting us all over the fire.
00:42:23.000They're saying basically, if you want to drill all the way down what you're saying there, what you're saying is that guy wants to feed his kids.
00:42:29.000And the risk is he's like, look, I can feed my kids or I can come out on the mic and be like, please put your masks on.
00:42:37.000I think that if and that's a terrible, horrible, crappy thing
00:42:40.000to do to a guy, a private citizen, a guy just working. I hate the fact that he's been deputized to enforce this
00:42:47.000nonsense by threat of not of starvation of his children.
00:42:51.000But but see that, what are you going to do if someone said, I'm sorry, someone said to you basically do this or your
00:44:05.000And in fact, my luxury is running out because the mandate now is going to be that all varsity athletes in high school have to get a vaccine in Montgomery County, Maryland, where my kids go to school.
00:44:19.000My son is a high school baseball player.
00:44:24.000And if they want to continue on in the sport that they love, playing for the school that they like and that they go to, they're gonna have to get the vaccine.
00:46:06.000I didn't say you can never have anything valuable.
00:46:09.000I'm saying when your family's being coerced, you stand up and say no.
00:46:13.000And what you're saying is, well, they're going to make my kids do it and the system in place that they control and the things they've given me are more important than my sovereignty.
00:47:14.000You would tell your kid that you have been coaching in baseball your whole life, that you have taught how to throw, how to pitch, how to bat, and you've talked your whole life about them being on a varsity sport and going into college to play Division I baseball, and you would look them in the eye and be like, just throw that away because daddy's got a political position?
00:47:31.000You think your kid's being forced to undergo a medical treatment is a political position?
00:47:36.000The statistics show very clearly that if you take the vaccine, you're pretty much going to be fine.
00:47:42.000The statistics also show if you don't take the vaccine, you're pretty much going to be fine.
00:47:46.000So I know that this is nothing but bullying.
00:47:51.000And they have found that open wound, that open nerve, that one thing that I can't fight, which is the happiness and success and fulfillment that my children feel.
00:48:19.000It's fair to say I don't have kids, so perhaps I don't understand the emotion you're feeling, but let there be troubles in my day so that my children will know peace.
00:48:27.000It's not a political position to defend freedom and stand up against tyranny.
00:48:31.000That is a responsibility, especially for an American.
00:48:34.000But, being Division 1 baseball and being a successful baseball player is more important than choose that and just say it.
00:48:44.000Sometimes men and boys, boys and men need a vocation in order to become a mature adult.
00:48:51.000And right now, for my son in particular, being a baseball player is how he's learning responsibility, how he's learning discipline, how he's building his body, how he's learning about nutrition, how he's learning about risk-taking, how he's learning about courage, strength, loyalty, being a good teammate, competitiveness.
00:49:33.000Well, I have stood my ground so far and I do anticipate standing my ground as long as I can for as possibly long as I can until the absolute last drop dead point where I have to like rip the dreams out of my kids brains and hearts and crush them and make them cry in front of me.
00:50:34.000We're talking about government-compelled vaccines and medical procedures.
00:50:38.000But you have a choice to fight or capitulate to.
00:50:40.000And I do and I will fight it as far as I possibly can.
00:50:42.000But what I'm doing is I'm acknowledging that I will do nothing but fight and it will all be in vain because I know the entire system is built against me.
00:51:01.000I'm gonna fight all the way to the end.
00:51:02.000The point I'm making is that I do not accept people coming to me using words to state how they feel about something and then immediately doing the opposite, proving everything they said was bullshit.
00:51:19.000When someone says, I just wish I had chocolate cake.
00:51:23.000And I'm like, there's all the ingredients in front of you.
00:53:01.000But my point is, Sometimes the cost-benefit analysis, when it comes down to it, when it's your kids' hopes and dreams, and for me, I have alternative avenues, right?
00:53:16.000I have a way to impact the world that doesn't revolve around me sacrificing my kids.
00:53:23.000Well, how are you sacrificing your kids?
00:53:26.000If I refused them, ultimately, at the end of the day, if the only choice they had was vaccine or athletics, and I said no athletics to them, that would be sacrificing them.
00:53:37.000But there's other ways to engage in athletics.
00:53:41.000One can, yes, if you move to Florida, if you move to West Virginia, if you move to Texas.
00:55:21.000And then it's an hour to West Virginia where they don't have these things.
00:55:24.000And you could go to a gym or whatever.
00:55:27.000The point is, man, what I'm saying is Yeah, it sucks, but if someone tells me, like, these things are wrong, however baseball's more important, I'm like, just say it.
00:55:41.000All of those things through baseball that your son learns are more important than like standing up to tyranny.
00:55:48.000You talking about building for the future.
00:55:51.000Building a child that is virtuous, is courageous, is honorable, is loyal, is perhaps more important for the long term than making a political stand in a losing battle today.
00:56:45.000I told a lot because it really made me think.
00:56:47.000I read this article about a family was on a beach and they were by themselves when a black wolf started walking down and the father saw it and panicked.
00:56:57.000And then all the kids, it was like three kids, the mom and the dad, and they swam out to a rock that was like 20 to 50 feet off of the shore.
00:57:05.000And they were huddled together on this rock, shivering as the wolf paced back and forth, terrified, begging for help and praying that someone would save them.
00:57:12.000And I'm like, man, I wonder what would have happened if this was 300 years ago.
00:57:17.000Look, for real, I mean, would the father have even brought his wife and daughters with him in the first place if he did?
00:57:22.000Because they were going to the beach, because humans like to go to the beach.
00:57:36.000Or would he have, you know, cowered as well?
00:57:39.000I don't know, maybe it's romanticized in the past to assume that the father would have been like, take the kids and run, and then drew his sword and stared down the wolf and said, you know, and if the wolf charged him, he would have fought to the death to save his family.
00:57:51.000In the modern age, you know, I was thinking about this, how like, We walk around with literal thin like less than a millimeter thin cloth You know back in the day people Many often would carry weapons and wear hide or furs or leathers things substantially thicker to protect themselves from the elements We're so safe and coddled.
00:58:13.000We wear shorts flip-flops Totally soft-bellied and unprepared and more and more people in these cities are giving up their rights to self-defense and the right to keep in bare arms.
00:58:24.000And I'm not saying, I'm not passing a moral judgment.
00:58:26.000I'm just saying, I wonder how different things would have been.
00:58:30.000I wonder what our ancestors would say about us today when they would hear these stories.
00:58:34.000You know, and it's like, I gotta make a decision between having my apartment or having my, my, accomplishing my goals.
00:58:42.000Or I have to make a decision between owning this refrigerator that's got a tablet in it or the dishwasher that's gonna do the extra scrub cycle.
00:58:50.000And I'm like, are these the problems that, you know, it's, it's, you know, I've been, I've been feeling more and more that we're, we're in behavioral sync.
00:58:58.000When the problems of our day is that the government has gone from a republic of elected officials gathering together to legislate on our behalf, for the most part, and our hearings and our discussions and journalism challenging these things, it's gone from that to an executive ruling by decree and people now are saying, But dude, I love those chicken wings.
00:59:24.000You know, so if they mandate it, I'm just gonna say fine.
00:59:27.000You know, I know I'm opposed to the mandates, but I really want to perform at this club, and it's gonna make money for me, so I'll just do it.
00:59:36.000There are a lot of people right now, and I'm not gonna shout anybody out, because there are some people I have tremendous respect who have been hitting me up, saying that when the mandates started passing in the cities, they started canceling their shows.
01:00:21.000You ever hear the story of, it was one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence.
01:00:25.000His wife was captured and used as a prisoner of war in an exchange.
01:00:28.000There's this viral meme that goes around about everything that was lost by the signers and it's exaggerated.
01:00:34.000I actually went through the list and I sought to fact check a lot of this stuff because I wanted to make sure I was accurate when I was talking about the sacrifices made by those who signed the Declaration of Independence.
01:01:04.000Swearing on our you know our sacred blood and honor, you know to stand by this and they thought they would lose Everything and yet the thing is the founding fathers didn't just put up their names and their treasure and their homes They put their children on the line and their wives on the line But this is this is something that I have thought about extensively which is the conditions for winning are not Present.
01:01:29.000I am NOT going to be the one a Gallipoli That jumps out of the trench and runs into a machine gun nest Just because the generals haven't figured out a way to create the conditions for victory in 1770s the conditions for victory were there
01:03:13.000And I'd walk out, you know, pat my son on the head and say, all right, you know, this is the way thing goes.
01:03:18.000We'll keep pushing through because sometimes you don't win every battle, but you don't lose your head over it.
01:03:23.000So I would say, you don't gotta, like, if it were me, I wouldn't be angry.
01:03:27.000I wouldn't be, I mean, I'd be like, Angry, but not in the sense where it's like you're energized by it to the point where you're yelling and stuff.
01:03:35.000Like if it were me, I'd be like, we got to be tactical.
01:04:28.000So you've correctly addressed the calculus here, which is, this is not, I'm not going to ultimately give in to tyrannical power at the expense of my children's health.
01:05:14.000I'm throwing this out there to be open and honest so that other people out there who are having these similar feelings can relate and know that they're not alone and that we can talk and share about the barrel that the government is putting us over and the way that they're torturing us with this, which is why I'm talking about all this.
01:05:31.000I remember when I was on, uh, in the 2018 Rogan I did with Dorsey or whatever, at the end of the episode, you know, towards the end, I said, if you keep doing what you're doing, we'll get to the point where people are going to be shooting each other in the streets.
01:05:44.000I don't know, I don't remember the exact quote I had, but I was like, it's going to get crazy.
01:05:47.000And, uh, well, this stuff started to happen.
01:05:49.000But the point I made was I'm building a van.
01:06:15.000You like, you would have to physically remove me, put me, lock me up, do whatever.
01:06:20.000If it came down to actual like civil, civil war and like real conflict, they'd have to like drag me into, you know, kicking and screaming into a pen or something.
01:06:58.000But I'll tell you, this issue of AOC has the left completely fractured.
01:07:03.000And you can really see who the true leftists are when they call out AOC.
01:07:09.000There is a hardcore communist cartoon avatar Twitter account that won't shut up and hates everybody because everybody Nazis, won't stop ragging on AOC for being a limousine liberal, for being a villain in the Hunger Games, and I'm like, I think these people genuinely are communists when they say that stuff and they call out AOC for being a capitalist corporate shill who's going to a Met Gala $35,000 event.
01:07:32.000And then you get high-profile leftists who are like, I think it's good she did it.
01:07:48.000Saying that we should improve- I love that comic, because whenever someone posts it, you know that they're not smart.
01:07:53.000Because saying something like, I think it's bad that, you know, people at Foxconn labs are, you know, killing themselves, or had been, and then that was the gist of, like, the argument that, you know, people on the right were like, oh, these leftists are protesting this stuff, but they're using iPhones.
01:10:38.000I don't think people aren't allowed to be rich.
01:10:41.000And I think that for the positions of many of these people, they're not overt communist tankies like seize everyone's wealth for the state.
01:10:49.000So they still believe in getting rich, but there is still this level of hypocrisy where they frequently come out in favor of authoritarians.
01:10:57.000I don't know what Nico Lulz is all about.
01:10:58.000I don't think she's even political for the most part.
01:11:00.000But like Hassan, for instance, frequently comes out on the side of authoritarianism.
01:11:05.000And then buys himself a massive property and I'm like, I'm not going to believe you're actually a leftist if you just say things and then do things that are like contradictory to your beliefs.
01:11:17.000AOC accepting a $35,000 gift and then what does she say?
01:11:20.000I wanted to show a working class woman of color, you know, bring in the protest to them.
01:11:27.000And I'm like, dude, you're there smiling and laughing and like hanging out with these billionaires and celebrities.
01:11:31.000The protest would have been, I'm not going.
01:11:41.000If she really wanted to protest, she should have been standing on the red carpet and as everyone walked by, she'd throw red paint on them and be like, Tax the rich!
01:12:45.000I think that was the Milley thing, it's a different topic.
01:12:47.000The point I'm bringing up with this is that we're at a point where AOC can accept basically a $35,000 bribe, okay?
01:12:56.000And Mark Milley can call the Chinese military and say, you know how we're in a conflict that's been escalating and you've been engaging in militaristic actions that we've been telling you to stop doing?
01:13:06.000We won't attack you, don't worry about it.
01:13:12.000They start loading up these missiles so we diversify our air force around the Pacific Islands.
01:13:18.000And then Millie's like, just don't worry, we're not gonna attack you.
01:13:22.000That seems like something you shouldn't tell your enemy when they're doing things in violation of international law.
01:13:28.000He particularly thinks they're not the enemy.
01:13:30.000I saw a thing from a couple years ago where he was saying they're very powerful, they're getting stronger, but that doesn't mean they're our enemy.
01:13:34.000So, the point is, we can watch Fauci lie to Congress, and Rand Paul can have the evidence in a document that says the NIH funded gain-of-function research Nothing will happen.
01:14:44.000I got no problem with a right-wing politician walking up to a left-wing politician and giving a fist bump.
01:14:50.000I got a problem with them grandstanding on TV pretending like they're morally opposed and then behind closed doors being like, I have a problem with people claiming to be fighting for something, and they don't actually fight for it.
01:15:01.000You know what one of the problems is right now?
01:15:03.000Mark Milley should be court-martialed.
01:15:07.000Vindman, of all people, I think he tweeted this out.
01:15:11.000I don't know where he posted it, but I think it was a tweet where he said that if this is true, Mark Milley usurps civilian authority by breaking the chain of command.
01:15:20.000The New York Times reported on this on January 8th, with an update on the 13th, that Nancy Pelosi, Well, look, there's a few pieces of data missing.
01:15:29.000Maybe Trump told Milley we're not going to attack China.
01:15:35.000But the issue is, the reporting is that it was a secret call outside of the chain of command and that Mark Milley convened a secret meeting at the Pentagon instructing senior officers to essentially defy legal orders from Donald Trump.
01:17:55.000Is an enlisted guy supposed to take an order directly from the president?
01:17:58.000Or does an enlisted guy have to take an order from his commanding officer?
01:18:01.000You gotta stop because I was about to address this before you jumped in.
01:18:05.000The New York Times reported that when Pelosi contacted Mark Milley, saying she was concerned about Donald Trump launching a military strike, that it seems Mark Milley offered no consideration to this request.
01:18:19.000And the Department of Defense, several Department of Defense officials were angered by this, saying that if they actually did plan on circumventing the chain of command, it would be a military coup.
01:18:33.000Vindman said, if this report is correct, that Milley usurped civilian authority, breaking the chain of command.
01:18:40.000I am not saying it is my opinion this happened.
01:18:42.000I'm saying New York Times reported, DOD officials said, if they sought to break the chain of command, it would be a military coup.
01:18:54.000But Vindman said that the president can give an enlisted guy an order that all of the commanding officers disagree with and the enlisted guy has to do it?
01:19:02.000I don't... Jack, I think your questions are completely irrelevant.
01:19:05.000I think that you're supposed to only answer to your immediate officer, your immediate superior.
01:19:10.000And then if another greater superior comes over and tells you something, you're like, sorry, man, this is my superior.
01:19:27.000And so I report that as Pelosi attempts military coup against Trump.
01:19:32.000And I said, I'm not going to mince words.
01:19:34.000If the New York Times reporting Department of Defense officials said what Nancy Pelosi attempted to get them to do would have been a military coup.
01:19:40.000That's what I'm going to say happened.
01:19:42.000And a lot of people on the left were angry by it.
01:20:29.000The point is, we didn't declare war against them, so it's just an off-the-books conflict, I guess you can call it, but they've been attacking our critical infrastructure for a long, long time.
01:20:39.000So anyway, the point is, Millie, according to the reports, had a secret phone call with Chinese military, telling them outright, all of our posturing, all of our ships going through China, we're not going to attack you.
01:20:55.000That actually makes me think that we have way better ties with the Chinese government than it seems.
01:21:00.000That we're really safe and there's not going to be any physical conflict.
01:21:05.000China recently had a strike group go into the Alaskan economic zone.
01:21:10.000And look, when China says, we will... Right up next to the economic zone.
01:23:30.000might attack us, You think that's a deterrent?
01:23:33.000So he undermined that completely, going outside of the chain of command to do so, secretly, secretly contacting the Chinese military to inform them.
01:23:42.000And he said, as you mentioned, Ian, in the past, when he said that China's not our enemy, China's been conducting cyber warfare against us for There's way I don't forever.
01:23:50.000They're very clearly waging war on us.
01:24:21.000But if it came out last year and it was about Trump and it was about Bob Woodward, everyone on our side or my side, at least, would be like that Bob Woodward is an idiot and a liar.
01:24:35.000It was he said it was acceptable and routine.
01:24:38.000And we regularly maybe maybe it is acceptable and routine.
01:24:42.000So the issue I suppose then is, when you've done something that's so shocking, once again you see everyone on the right saying, this is shocking if true, that even people on the left are coming out.
01:24:51.000Like that's why I cited Vindman specifically.
01:24:53.000I'm not trying to claim that he's an expert and authority on this.
01:24:56.000I'm saying he's the guy who tried to get Trump impeached, or who did get Trump impeached, now coming out and being like, this broke the chain of command.
01:25:02.000But aren't there also other incidences where like, we've attacked people, and I think this is pretty common.
01:25:07.000We're like, we're going to launch a missile on this base.
01:25:34.000New York Times, January 8th, with an update on January 13th, they mentioned Speaker Pelosi of California took the unprecedented step of asking the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff about available precautions to prevent Trump from initiating military action abroad or using his sole authority to launch nuclear weapons in the last days of his term.
01:25:52.000So apparently he has sole authority to launch nuclear weapons, I guess.
01:25:55.000General Milley has appears to have made no commitments.
01:26:01.000In fact, had a secret meeting at the Pentagon where he, according to the book, and again, you don't got to believe Woodward, he asked these officers to effectively swear an oath to him that if Trump gave him an order, they'd go to him with it first.
01:26:22.000Mrs. Pelosi's request, which she announced in the Democratic caucus as an effort to prevent an unhinged president from using the nuclear codes, was wrapped in the politics of seeking a second impeachment of Trump.
01:26:30.000Colonel David Butler, spokesman for General Milley, confirmed the phone call with the Speaker had taken place, but described it as informational.
01:26:37.000He answered her questions regarding the process of nuclear command authority.
01:26:40.000But some Defense Department officials clearly resented being asked to act outside of the legal authority of the 25th Amendment, and saw it as more evidence of a broken political system.
01:26:51.000They said that some political leaders were trying to get the Pentagon to do the work of Congress and Cabinet Secretaries, who have legal options to remove a President.
01:26:59.000Mr. Trump, they noted, is still the commander-in-chief.
01:27:02.000Unless he is removed, the military is bound to follow his lawful orders.
01:27:06.000While military officials can refuse to carry out orders they view as illegal, or slow the process by sending those orders for careful legal review, they cannot remove the president from the chain of command.
01:27:17.000That would amount to a military coup, the officials said.
01:27:20.000Okay, that being said, if Vindman is correct in saying that this broke chain of command, if there was another retired colonel on Fox News who said outright this was an illegal action by Milley if true, he should be brought into Congress, put under oath, and testifies to what happened.
01:27:35.000We have people, left, right, military, coming out and saying this was a subversive action against the United States.
01:28:10.000The claim from the left and the mainstream media is that he was just trying to stop an unhinged president who he had seen, who he believed was in mental decline following an insurrection attempt.
01:28:18.000Except he made the first call in October, according to the reporting, well before an election took place.
01:28:24.000So imagine Donald Trump, who's been very, very bullish on going up against China, Imagine he won the election.
01:28:31.000He had already been undermined by the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, who went behind his back to contact China.
01:29:23.000You know, well, so let's put it this way.
01:29:24.000We spent so much time parsing text when it came to Trump and watching the left take things that Trump said that were specifically accurate, but then expanding it into being generally inaccurate.
01:29:38.000Like, I just want us to be specific and right and justified in our critiques.
01:29:42.000So the ultimate question is, can Donald Trump get on the phone to—they don't use NORAD anymore, I guess—but can he get on the phone to a commander at a military base with nuclear capabilities and say, launch the nukes?
01:30:03.000It seems to me that in something that could end the world, that we would want it to go down the chain of command from one officer to the commanding.
01:30:10.000I think the Democrats tried to make that happen.
01:30:12.000Actually, they tried to take Biden's sole authority for the nuclear launch codes away and give it to somebody, give it to more than just him.
01:30:20.000I understand the question is down the chain of command.
01:30:23.000I... I would be surprised if Trump could not call, you know, Strategic Defense, you know, a commander, a captain, a major, a general, or whatever, who has the ability to turn the key and say, this is President Donald Trump calling on the red phone.
01:30:38.000He could, you know, I'm sure he'd have to call a general, I suppose, but he doesn't have to call Milley.
01:30:50.000So it's semantic, but my understanding based on the reporting is that as the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, he acts as the senior military advisor to the president and doesn't make the decisions himself, which means Trump would not go to him to execute the decisions.
01:31:03.000He would go to the senior officers, the generals, and say, do it.
01:31:07.000For him to come out and be like, no, you come to me instead.
01:31:24.000Maybe there'll be a general in the Super Chats who can explain.
01:31:26.000Oh yeah, and so we got a ton of superchats because we all said so many things that we weren't clear on and people are going to provide for us those clarifications.
01:31:34.000So here Google says, the United States has a two-man rule in place at nuclear launch facilities and while only the president can order the release of nuclear weapons, the order must be verified.
01:32:37.000The President would then review the attack options with the Secretary of Defense and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and decide on a plan which could range from a single cruise missile to multiple ICBM launches.
01:32:47.000If the President, who is the Commander-in-Chief, decides to order the use of nuclear weapons, they would be taken aside by the carrier and the briefcase would be opened.
01:32:55.000A command signal or watch alert would then be issued to the Joint Chiefs.
01:33:22.000Do you believe his spokesman, when his spokesman says, don't worry, it was just informational and it was just to confirm the process, the legal process for launching a military action?
01:33:57.000Well, as soon as I heard the story, it struck me as being reasonable that the Joint Chiefs of Staff would have to be involved in a nuclear strike decision.
01:34:04.000And so... I think the nuclear thing's the red herring.
01:34:08.000Because if Milley's not supposed to be involved in a conventional war command from Trump, and he's telling them to give him that information, then that's outside the box.
01:34:17.000How do you convince people on the left that, they say, Trump's mentally declining, insurrection, and we can't let him use nukes?
01:34:25.000When the actual core of all the articles is that stopping Trump from military action.
01:35:46.000It doesn't say that he's not involved.
01:35:47.000It's saying he's not in the chain of command.
01:35:49.000So the issue then is we need an under oath inquiry.
01:35:51.000He needs to testify before Congress and we need to bring in... Jack Posobiec reported that some of the people involved are willing to testify against him.
01:36:23.000And the women were, like, on the bed, booty dancing or whatever, and conservatives were like... Yeah, if she was in tight gold, I remember that.
01:36:27.000Let's just say Nikki's not one for, you know, chastity.
01:36:36.000So when folks on the right are, like, cheering the fact that Millie has gone to the left and Minaj has gone to the right, I'm not exactly sure that that's the case.
01:37:17.000We adopted one chicken who was older than the others.
01:37:20.000Now, they've had a bunch of babies, and we've got five, they're called Black Stars, and we've got three others that are just, you know, Rhode Island Red and an Easter Egger and Leghorn Rhode Island Red, because we only have one rooster.
01:37:33.000And there's something real special about growing your own food, eating your own cherry tomatoes and peppers in the morning, and I tell you, people get addicted to easy city living.
01:37:42.000You're sitting there in your apartment, you're hungry, you press a few buttons, boom, pizza shows up.
01:39:50.000Young Money, that's what I'm saying, man.
01:39:51.000She's affiliated with some red-pilled guys, people that like Trump, people that are going to advocate for some issues that are going to rub the liberals the wrong way.
01:40:30.000Yeah, I think, uh, I think vaccines are for mostly everybody, you know, for the most part.
01:40:37.000I think the real issue is regardless of my or anyone's opinion, go talk to somebody you know and trust and don't let people get in between.
01:40:44.000And the problem I have with YouTube censorship is that the left is allowed to get in between people and their doctors, but the right isn't.
01:41:07.000No, they're just joking because they don't understand that like when we fight and argue about stuff, it's because we're just, we're like, we're just, we're doing it.
01:41:14.000Are they implying I'm going to throw you out or something?
01:42:54.000I've had actually some of my best interactions with people are after I criticized them heavily about something that they knew.
01:42:59.000You know, that's the thing is that when when the thing we say about Tim Dillon, he knows what what you're saying has some validity.
01:43:06.000It's not like you're totally missing the mark.
01:43:08.000Honestly, Tim, at risk of not getting that good scotch in two weeks, I got to say that I think he had a valid point, which is I'm touring all over the place.
01:43:18.000The people in this jurisdiction voted for the people that enacted the mandates and they support it.
01:43:24.000If you don't want to go to that show, don't go to that show.
01:43:26.000It's sort of a very libertarian approach in a sense.
01:43:42.000Do they have a venue big enough for his giant head?
01:43:45.000The point I made the other day is perhaps he's already entered into contracts and the mandates are out.
01:43:53.000Well look, I had the opportunity to do an event in New York City and subject my people to the VAX mandates and I decided to do it in Jersey City.
01:44:08.000And you know, I just didn't want to deal with it.
01:44:10.000And I didn't want to give the tax money to New York City.
01:44:13.000I don't need to have a venue with a thousand people in it.
01:44:16.000I don't need to perform in front of a large group of people.
01:44:20.000And I would be willing to sacrifice my comfort for my principles.
01:44:25.000But what if there was a thousand vaccinated people that wanted to see you and they would all be willing to pay for you to come to this place where they required vaccines?
01:44:47.000I think the important thing to point out is like a really good argument was talking about like VAX mandates, like gender based discrimination versus race discrimination and how we tolerate one but don't tolerate the other, even though the arguments presented in law are the same.
01:45:06.000So you can look at a structure and be like, I think segregation is wrong, and then they say the 1964 Civil Rights Act says you can't discriminate on the basis of race or gender, and thus you can't have racial segregation, but we can have gender segregation?
01:45:22.000So there's an interesting question there, and then people say, well, there's a biological difference between men and women, and then race realists say, oh, but there's a biological difference between different races, and then you get into the scientific argument where people say, oh, races are a social construct, and then all of a sudden you're all over the place.
01:45:38.000And so that's why I'm kind of like, is it really principles or is it, you know, being obstinate?
01:46:15.000I suppose I'll tone that one down a bit and say they may come out and be like, you're trying to obfuscate.
01:46:22.000The point I'm making is if they really want to enforce them against you, they will find a means through the law to do it.
01:46:28.000Unpaid taxes or avoiding taxes when you try to obfuscate the stuff is where you get into the criminal territory and they could argue Oh, you're trying to hide the fact that you're doing X Y or Z But um more importantly the enforcement doesn't need to come from the IRS in terms of them showing up and arresting you Shutting down your business and seizing your your your your your funds is one way they could do it But you know, maybe maybe not Unvaccinated soldier says serious question.
01:46:54.000Jack, how do you wear a mask with that epic beard?
01:48:17.000I'm thinking of it from their perspective.
01:48:20.000I know we probably already went over this, but I feel like 16, 14, you're an adult.
01:48:24.000I know legally you're not, but psychologically, I knew what I wanted when I was 14.
01:48:28.000If my dad took away my opportunity to become an actor because of his politics, I would have hated him, never forgave him, and probably become a raging alcoholic and killed myself or something.
01:48:38.000Joe Spinella says, Tim, say no to YouTube and their censorship by ending your show on their platform.
01:48:45.000You support their system by cooperating in it.
01:48:47.000Well, there's a big difference between the government mandating something by decree in violation of our laws and our courts and our branches of government and a large multinational unaccountable corporation Shutting people down and violating fundamental rights.
01:49:05.000The difference is, there is an argument to be made about what we have a right to do.
01:49:09.000I don't think YouTube should be censoring anybody.
01:49:11.000But YouTube also provides free services to people, so there's an argument between what YouTube should be allowed to do and what they shouldn't be allowed to do.
01:49:18.000In this instance, I think it's a call for regulation.
01:49:21.000Our politicians should come in and intervene to stop YouTube from doing these things, and we need legislative action to prevent this.
01:49:27.000No one has come to me by executive decree mandating, like, I violate my bodily autonomy in this regard.
01:49:59.000I don't think wearing masks is that big of a deal when a private business says it.
01:50:02.000I don't like government mandates, but if I go to a local store and I have to go there and the private business owner is like, no shirt, no shoes, no mask, no service, I put a mask on.
01:50:35.000And if I have a choice to go somewhere else, I'll walk next door and go somewhere else.
01:50:38.000If I have a choice between going Maryland, Virginia, or West Virginia, because I do, I go to West Virginia, where you can do whatever you want, there's no mandates.
01:50:44.000Go play pool, don't need a mask, don't need to get vaccinated, you can do whatever you want.
01:50:47.000We went to Virginia, and a lot of places mandate masks, and some places strongly recommend them.
01:50:55.000And so I'm just kind of like, it's a minor inconvenience.
01:51:11.000So if Google and all these companies are mandating vaccines, I think it's a bad thing we should speak out against.
01:51:16.000It's not the same as Joe Biden violating the branches of government and, you know, how our country functions.
01:51:22.000Except for the fact that the federal government has an office in the White House where they coerce the social media companies into censoring content that they find objectionable.
01:51:30.000So the corporations are doing the bidding of the government.
01:51:33.000Therefore, when you adhere to the corporation's, you know, mandates, you're actually adhering to the government mandates and you're subjecting yourself to fascism.
01:51:41.000So in our instance, we have created TimCast.com and the members only segments as sort of our speakeasy so that we can stand in this place and be like, Hey, everybody, if you want to hear the things YouTube would ban us for, we've set them up in a place where we're moving our business.
01:51:56.000TimCast.com is a bigger portion of the business now than YouTube ever was.
01:52:44.000You're always going to have centralized services that censor.
01:52:47.000That is the nature of humanity and that is necessary for us to survive, is to have local private places and things where you can dictate the rules of what can and can't happen.
01:52:56.000So we're building the Fediverse out so that we have a decentralized system that can function alongside all these centralized systems.
01:53:17.000Rosie Riveter says Tim can't ask Jack to pull his kids from baseball until he's willing to violate YouTube's censorship policies to take a principal stand against tyranny.
01:53:25.000I'm not entirely sure what Opinion I'm not allowed to have on YouTube that I'm being
01:53:32.000censored of like there are certain words We can't say that are slurs that we don't even swear on
01:53:37.000this show anyway, although we did swear this time But we like hey guys don't swear we try to we try to keep
01:53:40.000things Lit whatever happened tonight was awesome. I was so fun to
01:53:45.000be here. So there's like The one issue though is I want to have a conversation with
01:53:50.000Steve Bannon about his opinions on the election You can't do that on YouTube.
01:54:12.000There are some, but for him, this seems to be the best option.
01:54:16.000The issue is, as much as we are trying to get ourselves off of YouTube, and we have slowly been doing so, the issue is YouTube has used their monopolistic power to dominate the space, and there is no other option.
01:54:29.000We do use Rumble, Minds, BitChute, and put our content up on there, and it's not as effective as driving people to TimCast.com.
01:54:37.000But, ultimately, we're producing more and more content for TimCast.com with the ultimate goal of creating a website that doesn't need to be on YouTube, because screw the censorship.
01:54:46.000So, uh, I think, I'll put it this way.
01:54:49.000It would be unreasonable to end this overnight when I'm not... when I'm still on the battlefield.
01:54:57.000There's a big difference between it coming to a point where there's gonna be a hard stop where they look at your kid and say, take the shot, or you're out.
01:55:04.000That's literally staying at the edge of the cliff making a decision.
01:55:07.000For this, it's kind of like, hey, this is a big problem we're facing.
01:55:10.000Let's do our best to move away from this as fast as we can.
01:56:54.000Emily Mower says, if everyone pulled their kids out of sports, then things would change.
01:56:58.000Now again, I'm just reading some of these because there's a lot that go back and forth.
01:57:01.000The next one says, Tim, you would lose your livelihood and not be able to feed your kids on principle, but you will willingly censor yourself on YouTube.
01:57:10.000I appreciate what you do, but you bend like everyone else.
01:57:13.000So, I want to make sure I'll read those criticisms as much as, you know, the people who agree with me, the people who disagree with me.
01:57:19.000I do think they're different in the sense that if you get off YouTube right now, if every single person, Crowder and me, SticksXNamr, said, okay, we're done, we're off YouTube, then the entire battlefield is just ceded to the left, because this is where the ideological conflict is happening.
01:57:36.000If someone came to me and said, if Google emailed me and said, send in proof of vaccination or you're banned from YouTube, I would be banned from YouTube.
01:57:44.000And I would get in my van and go down by the river.
01:57:47.000Or I would just start producing all of my content on TimCast.com and then take a more traditional route.
01:59:24.000That's my take of you and your personality.
01:59:26.000But if the domain hosts, if the providers, if all of our, you know, Data centers and they all said show us proof or you're out.
01:59:35.000I'd be out Yeah, and I'd be like, I'm gonna plant some vegetables and you know eat eggs I'll be like it's not happening and you know, there's the big challenge, right?
01:59:44.000That's an effective way to excise people from the ideological conflict But ten years ago Tim would have a totally different perspective.
02:00:35.000My frame of mind has always been... Really, at that time, on the bench, you thought you were a homeless loser destined to be living in the streets the rest of your life?
02:00:41.000I never said to myself, I'm a homeless loser destined to live on the streets.
02:01:28.000So if you can't... If you don't have good kids to survive, then... Yeah, but just on that point, every step of my life, I was always just like, gotta do what I gotta do.
02:01:49.000It was about like, I'm going to do stuff.
02:01:51.000And so every day I wake up and I'm thinking about what am I going to do today?
02:01:57.000So the story I tell about the journalists not wanting to give up their apartment, when I worked for Vice and I was doing these big documentaries, we did the Kim.com one, got like 5 million views overnight.
02:02:07.000And people were like, oh man, he's so lucky.
02:02:09.000It's like, I was sleeping on my friend's couch.
02:02:11.000I was sleeping on a couch in Williamsburg for 300 bucks a night.
02:02:35.000And that's an excellent cost-benefit analysis and investment in yourself and these choices that we make when we're young when you've got nothing to lose and that's the time to take risks, time to double down, time to be poor or passing broke moment without a poor mindset because you know there's something bigger coming.
02:02:55.000You know, just earlier when we were talking before the show, not to call you out, dude, but you did say 10 years ago, you're like, I knew all this was coming.
02:03:03.000So let me, yeah, so I'll explain that.
02:03:05.000When I was 16, I went to some hippie commune where they had a big 1600 square foot, like 20 foot ceilings.
02:03:13.000So it was like this one room and they were like, everybody pitches in a hundred bucks a month and we have this big space with a mini ramp in it.
02:03:43.000You know, there was a period where when I was in my early 20s, I went to Seattle, I went to Denver, I eventually went to Los Angeles, and I just did whatever, you know?
02:05:21.000Well, what we're saying is if you say it out loud, everyone's gonna move there and change it.
02:05:27.000West Virginia is like, it's like, it's this valley, you know, you make it through the ancient tomb into this lost valley and there's like pterodactyls.
02:05:45.000But you're saying West Virginia is like legit and amazing, kind of untapped state.
02:05:51.000West Virginia is the place where you can buy a decent parcel of land in the middle of nowhere, with no access to utilities, where you'll never talk to your friends again, and you can have chickens, goats, and grow vegetables, and work hard every day, and fight off bears.
02:06:18.000And you can do it in whatever state for the most part.
02:06:20.000I like West Virginia because land is cheap and you can go into central West Virginia and find a couple acres for like a hundred, with a house on it for a hundred grand.
02:06:31.000And then you've got your chickens, you got your goats.
02:06:33.000I hear Wyoming also is pretty amazing right now, especially for crypto law.
02:09:04.000We'll, we'll, uh, we'll, we'll do a shout out for rumble because, um, yeah, man, I'm on rumble.
02:09:08.000I can certainly respect the criticisms over being on a platform that censors people and me not just shutting the show down, but, uh, I have cut half of my show down and we are moving as much as we can to Timcast.com as quickly as we can.
02:09:21.000Uh, like I said, Timcast.com, you know, one of the stupidest things I did was try and turn YouTube into a business.
02:10:35.000Like, like YouTube is the equivalent of a blog.
02:10:39.000That's just content marketing that you use to just sort of create a secondary thing.
02:10:44.000And I think it's hard in retrospect to look back and be like, I should have done this, should have done that when, you know, it's all worked out pretty well.
02:10:50.000It is, but in terms of principle, I could have made a faster move to get away from YouTube.
02:10:55.000And for advice for anyone starting out now or working now, start your own thing and start taking direct from the user to you subscriptions.
02:11:02.000So you cut out the middleman and the Fediverse is coming to help you do that.
02:11:05.000This is why another nonprofit that we're setting up is going to create free and open source networking, subscription, website software, so you don't have to be beholden to anybody and no one can ban you.
02:11:15.000Okay, look, this is very valuable information.
02:11:17.000But like, guys, if you're out there actually starting to try to create, if you have no one listening to you, you're not gonna have anybody to sign up to your premium stuff.
02:11:26.000You've got to use YouTube, you've got to use all these markets, all of them, Facebook ads, if you got to do that, Twitter, start your Minds account, get your rumble going and start your own website where you take subscriptions.
02:11:36.000I do think it's fair to leverage the platforms of your political rivals to gain access.
02:11:56.000It comes down to the development side on our website, because again, we want to do that.
02:12:02.000We don't want to sacrifice the battlefield that is YouTube and the culture war, because it is the biggest platform, and that would be foolish, but we also don't want to be providing resources to YouTube.
02:12:14.000Disproportionately benefiting them while they're actively participating in the culture war so that being said go to Tim cast calm be a member Because not only are you supporting the journalists?
02:12:23.000We're hiring and I think we're up to like seven or eight now But you're also supporting the nonprofit work that we're starting to we're gonna be launching and then once the nonprofits launch formally because I've just basically been paying for it out of my personal pocket and Once they launch, then we can contribute.
02:13:44.000When I sit next to Tim and it's like empire kingdom.
02:13:46.000But let's say I'm content and the, and the, and the positive impact that we're having on the world, the, the individuals that we're touching, that's what it's all about.
02:14:07.000You guys should follow me on Twitter, but before I tell you where to follow me, I will say that sometimes I get this, uh, why are you guys on YouTube, you're playing their game, whatever.
02:14:16.000I love the idea of using YouTube to direct people over to our website.