Ines Stettmann joins us to talk about the latest in the latest news involving vaccines and the NYPD. Plus, Sarah and Chris are joined by special guest Sarah Patchlett to talk all things education policy. Guests: Ines Stettenmann, education policy analyst at the Independent Women's Forum; Sarah Patchlet, senior policy analyst for the IDF; Chris Carr, executive editor at TheBestPoliticalShirts.
00:00:15.000TimCast.com did some digging, and it appears this wasn't a protest.
00:00:19.000This appears to be just people who live in the area, probably from Jersey, who don't know about what's going on and are being denied service, and the police are the ones enforcing it.
00:00:27.000In another viral video, there is a man who's been going around protesting, and now you have five people being arrested at a Burger King for demanding service and refusing to leave when they're questioned over their vaccine passports.
00:00:40.000The police in the video are saying, look, you've been warned, you've got to leave, and if you don't leave, you will be arrested.
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00:05:42.000The rule expanded Monday to require anyone over the age of 12 to show proof of a complete two-dose vaccination.
00:05:48.000A video circulating on social media Tuesday morning appears to depict an NYPD strategic response group attempting to eject a family from an Applebee's in Queen Center.
00:05:56.000The family, which included young children, did not provide proof of vaccination.
00:06:01.000Anyone five and up must show a vaccine card in order to eat here, Jose Perez, manager of the Applebee's in the Queen Center, told Timcast.
00:06:08.000We have been attacked by protesters and our staff is on edge and the police have been helpful.
00:06:13.000While Perez said he cannot comment on that incident seen in the video, he said that no kids have protested.
00:06:19.000He added, I am tired of having to answer these questions.
00:06:22.000People have been calling nonstop and we have work to do here.
00:06:34.000Christina Myers, a host at Margaritaville Resort in Times Square, said she turned away more than 20 would-be diners by midday.
00:06:43.000They can eat outside, but who is going to eat outside with 5 and 6 year old kids in this weather?
00:06:47.000Foreigners don't understand why we had to turn them away.
00:06:51.000Even people from Union City in New Jersey were confused.
00:06:54.000That's the point that I think is most important here.
00:06:57.000When I saw that video of that little kid being, you know, questioned by the police, I lived in Union City, just on the other side of the river.
00:07:04.000No mandates as far as I know right now.
00:07:05.000So people are coming across into Manhattan confused as to why they're being ejected from these businesses.
00:07:31.000Ten cops while the city is being plagued with crime and violence.
00:07:35.000Going after a five-year-old because he didn't get ... government permission to eat at Applebee's I mean are ... you freaking kidding me this is a new level of deprived ... politicization of the police force of the authorities that ... are abusing their powers in order to appease these ...
00:07:53.000Issuing these decrees that are absolutely totally backwards ... and nonsensical and the details here matter because at ... first when I saw the video I was like oh man why are why are ... protesters bringing their kids to this and having them ... interact with police officers being traumatized in this way ... but but the fact that these people weren't protesters the ... fact that they were just there trying to enjoy their meal ...
00:08:12.000Interrupted by police officer saying give me your ... paperwork or else is disgusting and I'm sick and ... tired to see this happen to a place that I grew up in ... destroyed by bureaucrats and plutocrats who don't give a ... damn about the people.
00:08:25.000Sorry I just had to go on a ... rant because that makes me mad.
00:08:27.000So I have, I guess, the contrarian take here, which is that I think that it's a positive thing the police are enforcing this as opposed to businesses.
00:08:35.000I don't think this changes until people have a very clear line of accountability as to who is actually responsible for these mandates.
00:08:43.000And what I actually think the way that the de Blasio administration has done this is really, really clever.
00:08:48.000Because they have made the businesses, the bad guy, businesses that have been closed, forcibly closed for a year, they're trying to make back an edge in their businesses and they have been forcibly roped in to enforce this mandate.
00:09:02.000So when I see police enforcing this mandate, I think that's the only way this is going to change because people see those videos, the one we're talking about right now, and they say this is not acceptable.
00:09:11.000But when it's just a guy at the Applebee's turning you away, well that's not great video.
00:09:15.000And by the way, when those businesses are protested, like BLM protested a restaurant that turned away some customers in the summer, those businesses are trying to stay in business as well.
00:09:27.000They're unwilling participants in a mandate that is coming from the government, and therefore should be enforced by the government.
00:09:34.000And that is how democratic change happens, is when people actually know who to hold accountable.
00:09:42.000You know, when people see videos and it's like, you're trespassing, and it's like the manager, everyone's like, well, it's a private business.
00:09:48.000Seeing the police do it, well, now you've got the potentiality of the right and the left being like, we are all now mad at the police for doing this.
00:09:56.000However, I kind of think the left is going to invert their police position now, and they're going to support the cops for doing this.
00:10:03.000So it's not really going to have an impact.
00:10:06.000Ultimately, if the left and the right both were like, OK, we're now angry the police are doing this, I'd be like, OK, well, you know, there you go.
00:10:13.000Maybe now the police will back off and say we're not going to enforce this.
00:10:49.000And they said, we're doing a study here, we want you to fill out this application.
00:10:53.000The application actually was the study.
00:10:54.000They put him in a room, they had him fill out the form, and they blow smoke under the door.
00:10:58.000When it was just one person in the room, they see the smoke, they run to the door, they feel it, they start yelling, there's smoke, there's smoke, fire, fire.
00:11:05.000The next group they did, they put three people in the room.
00:11:09.000They saw the smoke, looked at the other two people, and then just ignored the smoke.
00:11:14.000So if you've got people looking around and seeing no one taking action, it solidifies the problem.
00:11:20.000Individuals simply need to step up and say, we won't do it, and you'll see people follow suit.
00:11:25.000I don't think the left is going to defend this because the images are stark here and they're very important.
00:11:29.000I mean we're seeing a child being intimidated by dozens of police officers.
00:11:34.000This is not just one police officer enforcing this the NYPD is bringing out dozens of police officers men with guns that are going up to five-year-olds and saying hey give me your paperwork or you're in trouble.
00:11:45.000That's disgusting and this isn't just happening in New York City.
00:11:52.000There's a picture going around that is depicting French police officers interrupting the Matrix movie inside of a theater going around asking people for their vaccine mandates, for their vaccine passports, for their government permission, domestic passport slip paper to be in a movie theater to watch a movie.
00:12:09.000I mean imagine sitting at a movie theater trying to enjoy a meal And a police officer's giving me your paperwork, coming over your shoulder, breathing over you with weapons, violent men being like, give me what I want, give me compliance or else.
00:12:24.000That's the nature of political power, and I think it's important that the nature of that political power is clear and open and on a video that people can see.
00:12:33.000I think, frankly, not just with regard to this, but with regard to many, many issues, the major problem in our institutions and in our political culture today is a lack of small d democratic accountability.
00:12:44.000And I think there's a reason they enlisted businesses to do that.
00:12:47.000It scrambles the lines of accountability.
00:12:49.000To your point about people being willing not to comply, a lot more people are going to be pissed off and willing not to comply when they see five-year-olds being arrested than when somebody is screaming at the 22-year-old hostess at Applebee's.
00:13:05.000I totally disagree with both of you because would the blue-pilled normies see video like that?
00:13:10.000They don't see it the way that we see it.
00:13:11.000They're gonna look at that video and they're saying that poor child has an irresponsible parent that did not get three shots like I was conned into getting and now that parent should be held accountable for not taking care of their child and being a responsible parent and this is just fine.
00:13:47.000A lot of people have some very serious questions that the medical professionals are not answering in this country, and they can't answer those questions.
00:13:53.000And that's leading to a lot of people being like, hey, Why are we giving up our human rights, our rights to even sit alone at a restaurant, our rights to be alone and watch a movie in peace, to these bureaucrats that aren't keeping us safe in exchange for this bargain that we're making with them?
00:14:09.000They promised, we're going to give you safety, we're going to give you security, just give us your human rights, just give us your dignity.
00:14:14.000Risky freedom over totalitarian security, any day.
00:14:18.000But what's the end result of this then?
00:14:37.000I think even in New York City that there are a lot of people who are, let's say, not like the folks around this table, but are still they see that video and they see like this is going too far.
00:15:18.000He didn't actually say that, but the gist of the speech he gave was exactly that, and he was referencing Fugitive slave laws, right, which he was radically against.
00:15:28.000And he said, actually, if these laws are on the books, we should enforce them because that is how people will realize this is a bad idea.
00:15:36.000If we selectively enforce it or we muddy the lines of accountability, we have no way of actually changing people's minds and getting rid of stuff like this.
00:15:43.000So I'm glad to see the police enforce this instead of the waitress at Applebee's.
00:15:47.000It reminds me of that scene from V for Vendetta, when the inspector is like, eventually someone will do something stupid, and it shows the little girl skipping, and she's wearing the Guy Fawkes mask, so the cop shoots her, and then all the locals just walk up with, like, pipes and crowbars.
00:16:01.000When people start seeing five-year-old children being surrounded by cops in question, having their papers, Amanda, I agree with what you were saying.
00:16:07.000You know, it's gonna set off a lot of people, probably a lot of moms, I'd imagine.
00:16:35.000Yeah, you see, I think little kids being surrounded by cops, you're going to have a lot of women who are going to be upset about that.
00:16:40.000Not only that, people are being sent off to camps in Australia.
00:16:43.000There's police officers walking up to individuals being like, we need to check your cup.
00:16:46.000We need to make sure that there's coffee in there, because if there's not, you're in trouble.
00:16:51.000What kind of world did you want to be living in where violent thugs with guns come up to you and demand for you to show them your coffee because you're walking down the street?
00:17:18.000I think it's important that we make sure that there are still venues for people to express that they've had enough because a lot of not only the COVID sort of regulations, but a lot of our policy is decided in this country by unelected bureaucrats, and they don't have any reason to listen to ticked-off parents, right?
00:17:38.000And so I think, I don't know, I tend to think of a lot of political problems in this way.
00:17:41.000I really think that what we need at this moment, and I'm not always, I'm a conservative, I'm not always sort of enthusiastic about small d democracy.
00:17:49.000I don't think it's always the best sort of answer.
00:17:53.000There is a danger of the tyranny of the majority.
00:17:57.000But I think in our particular moment, we're not in danger of the tyranny of the majority.
00:18:01.000We're in danger of the tyranny of the unelected minority, essentially.
00:18:04.000We were talking about this a couple years ago, Tim.
00:18:07.000A specific study that was done showing how democracy was a joke and how the major policies that people wanted were never passed.
00:18:14.000The policies of special interest groups were passed, showing how essentially the works of Congress is being done by the people who have the power, who have the money, the special interests, essentially all of them.
00:18:25.000I forgot the name of that specific study.
00:18:27.000There was a chart that showed that public opinion had a 0% impact on public policy, and that the opinions of wealthy elites had a massive impact on public policy.
00:18:39.000But that is what you get when you slow off political decision-making into bureaucracies.
00:18:46.000Washington, D.C., and to a lesser extent the states, but primarily in Washington, D.C., the vast majority of political decisions are not made by Congress.
00:18:55.000This is what was so absurd about AOC, for example, being mad that West Virginia has a powerful senator.
00:19:02.000The reality is the views of Brooklyn are reflected much more in an elite class, like a managerial class of bureaucrats, and those people are not responsible to the majority.
00:19:13.000Most of our political decisions are made either by bureaucrats or by courts, which are properly placed beyond democratic control.
00:19:21.000But they've gone beyond what they're supposed to be ruling on.
00:19:24.000Between those two things, there's a smaller and smaller space for the people to express any kind of opinion or displeasure with the direction of policy.
00:19:31.000I want to pull up this story we have here from The Hill.
00:19:33.000Biden says if medical team advises it, he'll issue domestic travel vaccine requirement.
00:19:42.000But you were just talking about how there's unelected bureaucrats.
00:19:46.000I think another issue here is that there's rule by edict.
00:19:50.000So with these vaccine mandates in New York, it's an executive who just says, I'm going to do it without approval of the courts, without the legislative body.
00:20:00.000This is what we're getting now across the board.
00:20:18.000Aside from, you know, like the Senate parliamentarian and other issues, we are just continually getting governors, mayors, and the president doing whatever they want.
00:20:28.000And there seems to be no recourse or opportunity for a redress of grievances.
00:20:33.000Fauci just came out and said it the other night.
00:20:35.000He was just like, look, if it basically gets more people vaccinated, then it's a good thing, at the end of the day.
00:20:41.000Yeah, he admitted the mandates are just kind of a way to manipulate people to get vaccinated.
00:21:02.000The Nuremberg Code that people are referring to states that you have to consent to participate in a trial study.
00:21:08.000And so the argument is that because they're still doing long-term trials on the vaccine, no one's consent— you're literally consenting to it.
00:21:16.000I understand the vaccine mandates basically are coercing people into doing it, so that's the gray area.
00:21:24.000When you have an emergency use authorization for a vaccine, it's not in the same territory as putting a human being in a laboratory setting and then, you know what I mean?
00:21:36.000Well, the argument that I heard is that coercion is a strike against that, because if you're coercing people to participate in that kind of environment, then it's also against the Nuremberg Code, because that is coercion.
00:21:46.000If you can't travel and you have to get this forced shot, then that's coercion to participate in a medical experiment.
00:21:52.000You know what, I'm gonna go ahead and say, I stand corrected on that one, you know why?
00:21:56.000First, I'm not a lawyer, so I can't tell you if it actually does violate the Nuremberg Code, but I'm gonna walk that back and just say, actually, you know what?
00:22:23.000Those are the trials that have been completed with 100,000 people or more.
00:22:27.000The FDA insert for the Pfizer vaccine says long-term studies are still being done.
00:22:32.000So, you're going to get people on the left saying, it's EUA authorized, it's already gone through the safety trials, so it doesn't qualify in that capacity.
00:22:42.000People on the right are saying, well, as long as they are doing studies on it.
00:22:46.000I actually, I don't know, man, I kind of lean towards, I don't think, I think it's a bit hyperbolic to say it violates the Nuremberg Code.
00:23:06.000The left will say, it's EUA authorized, the studies have said it's safe, therefore, and the right's gonna be like, they haven't finished long-term studies, therefore.
00:23:14.000Well, the New York Times came out with a bombshell article today talking about how some scientists are warning that too many shots could lead to people's bodies not being able to fight off COVID.
00:23:24.000That's not me saying it, that's the New York Times that literally wrote a piece about this, which again is breaking the narrative.
00:23:32.000of what we were previously told and believed to by the medical advisors.
00:23:36.000Let me just pull that one up just to show you.
00:23:41.000And the byline is specifically the most important part here that people really need to read and to think about, especially in the context of everything that we were told.
00:23:57.000It says, other experts argue that not enough was known about the effects of a fourth shot and some scientists have raised concerns that too many shots might cause a sort of immune system fatigue, compromising the body's ability to fight the virus, particularly among older people.
00:24:11.000This is the New York Times reporting it.
00:24:13.000So I want to wrap it back up to what you were saying about Nuremberg.
00:24:15.000If we don't know They're already a point already the point where several
00:24:19.000countries have said a fourth shot for immuno compromised I mean now I think you're getting into your circuit. You're
00:24:25.000starting to get a dangerous territory over what what over what you're gonna mandate people
00:24:28.000Get so the okay So from my understanding from what I've just learned about
00:24:33.000the Nuremberg argument part of the argument is based on the definition of coercion
00:24:36.000Is that not correct from my that's what I've heard. Yeah, so if you're gonna say that you can't oh, you can't travel
00:24:41.000You can't shop you can't go to you know, the gym you can't go to movies
00:24:44.000That sounds like coercion to me, but you I guess you would have to look up the definition and make sure that you're
00:24:48.000arguing on I think you could literally, if that was the definition, you would be able to apply that to virtually any approved drug.
00:25:00.000Exactly this kind of article right in the New York Times This is assuming that people are adults and that they're that this is a novel virus that there are risks involved with it That like this is treating people as adults And the problem is that a lot of our public health institutions have not given people straight information.
00:25:19.000They have given people a narrative of To try to manipulate them into behaving the way that they want at any given time, and that way changes, right?
00:25:27.000We saw like the changes over time with regard to masks, right?
00:25:31.000With regard to a thousand other issues.
00:25:33.000I think that the problem is that we have not treated people as adults.
00:25:37.000And sure, some people are irresponsible, but that's kind of the price of freedom in this country, is that there are, you know, people get to behave irresponsibly sometimes.
00:25:46.000But I think the problem is we have not treated, again, we have not treated American citizens as adults.
00:25:52.000We've been treated as pawns to try to, like, influence people.
00:25:56.000Instead of just saying straight out, here's the information we have.
00:25:59.000It may change because this is a new virus.
00:26:02.000This is, you know, here's the recommendations that we're giving because, you know, we are studying this as experts and scientists.
00:26:08.000But the problem is the entire premise of trust.
00:26:11.000For the expertise and that entire class of quote-unquote experts and managerial class is shot.
00:26:27.000This is the informed consent that you guys are taking here.
00:26:30.000And it's surprising to see the New York Times release this article because it is important.
00:26:37.000There are a lot of implications with those statements.
00:26:39.000And there's also a New York Times editor that died recently of a heart attack that a lot of people have questions surrounding.
00:26:45.000So this could be potentially the New York Times deciding to ask more questions after dealing with stuff internally.
00:26:54.000We use mainstream news sources in a lot of our reporting.
00:26:58.000And all the information that we have, save like Project Veritas, is despised by the media, but I trust Project Veritas.
00:27:06.000But almost, I would say every single article we use, save like one or two, is NewsGuard certified, you know, established press.
00:27:13.000And the information we get that talks about this stuff, it always comes from these sources.
00:27:17.000When we get an article about people being arrested in Burger King by NYPD, it's the New York Post.
00:27:23.000When we get stories about Hunter Biden, it's coming from the New York Post.
00:27:26.000We got a story about a Ukrainian court saying that Ukrainians were meddling in the election, and that was the New York Times that wrote that.
00:27:33.000You've got to weed through the garbage from these sources, but my point is, like, you can find the news and we use it.
00:27:41.000So I'm just trying to say, like, I'm not surprised the New York Times wrote about this.
00:27:47.000It just depends on who's writing about it, I guess.
00:28:28.000If you see somebody and you're like, you've got a swollen joint and you need some kind of steroid to, you know, anti-inflammatory for this, and they say no, I say, okay.
00:28:39.000Yep, that treats inflammation, severe allergies, flares of chronic illnesses, and many other medical problems.
00:28:45.000So if I go up to somebody who's got like a busted knee and I say, you know, you should, the doctor prescribed it, not me, take this methylprednisolone and they say, I choose not to.
00:28:55.000But if you go, nah, your knee's busted, no food for you, no movies, no restaurants, no flying, okay.
00:29:01.000That's where it's like, let's not get into the weeds on the weird murky political stuff about Nuremberg or whatever, because we can just outright say it.
00:29:09.000Don't coerce people into taking medications.
00:29:11.000Or if you're obese, like imagine if you're obese or have an STD.
00:29:14.000Imagine implementing the same restrictions on individuals for those lifestyle choices.
00:29:18.000I mean, I know individuals in a society like that.
00:29:21.000So to me, I think the distinction then has to be, and I don't think you can avoid the whole discussion that way, because the distinction has to be things that Injure yourself versus others, right?
00:29:31.000And now, especially in the last several months, it's become very, very clear that vaccinated people can pass this virus.
00:29:40.000And to me, that makes the argument for the other side much, much weaker.
00:29:44.000Because at the end of the day, I'm very pro-vaccine.
00:29:49.000But I think that at the end of the day, if it's not reducing transmission by any substantial degree anymore, then it becomes about It's like, you know, you're only hurting yourself.
00:30:01.000You're only taking your chances yourself.
00:30:03.000It's no longer an aspect of actually affecting anyone else because it seems very, very clear at this point that you are not preventing other people from getting COVID by being vaccinated.
00:30:12.000What you're doing is making a decision about your own risk, which is ultimately an individual decision.
00:30:17.000They would have to say testing mandates because if you get vaccinated and you can still get it and people are like you were saying before the show that people in New York all have Omicron like it's record-breaking there's like 50,000 cases or whatever and it's bad I mean you saying people are like flat on their back like I'm sick yeah I mean it's like a bad flu I mean I just got over it I caught it at a dinner party happy birthday to me it was my dinner But, you know, all seven people there were vaccinated.
00:31:08.000I think there has to be some balance between if you're affecting other people.
00:31:11.000This is sort of the negotiation of a liberal democracy, how much the negotiation between the individual and the common good happens.
00:31:19.000But there is no negotiation anymore, to my mind.
00:31:22.000If you are not reducing the infection rate in the general population by being vaccinated, there is no argument.
00:31:29.000We've been hearing a bit in the media that it's milder.
00:31:32.000And there was one viral story saying it's like runny noses, but you were saying it's actually worse than that.
00:31:37.000Like Luke brought it up earlier, he said it's like mild, and then you said... Well, I had friends who had it who just described it as a kind of runny nose, just like a cold.
00:31:45.000But that's my experiences, your experiences are of course different.
00:31:48.000Yeah, that's not what I've seen in New York City, but obviously that's anecdotal.
00:32:04.000I don't, you know, I can't, I can't, like... I just thought that was interesting, too, because before the show, you know, Luke had mentioned it.
00:32:10.000Every anecdotal story I've heard on, like, Twitter is, like, these people are saying, I'm triple vaxxed and I was floored by this.
00:32:18.000And then I see people posting, you know, images from news stories where it's like, it's not that bad, it's mild or whatever.
00:32:39.000I was taking different stuff, but that's a different story.
00:32:42.000Do you know if your friends were specifically tested for a variant, or do they know which variant they had?
00:32:48.000No, but, I mean, at the time, it's pretty clear what's circulating in New York City.
00:32:53.000And also the fact that there was still some transmission protection with Delta, and the fact that every person that has either two or three shots is catching this makes it seem much more likely that it's Omicron.
00:33:08.000Well, New York City is one of the most vaccinated places in the world, and on December 26th they had almost 25% of all cases in the United States presented here.
00:33:17.000And in South Africa there's also a lot of preliminary data suggesting that this new Omicron variant is getting rid of the Delta variant and is creating a lot of people to have natural immunity and then a lot of people are reporting that South Africa is on the up and up right now and that they have reduced a lot of hospitalizations, a lot of admissions, a lot of deaths have fallen off completely in that country.
00:33:36.000I think we're gonna see a spike in the next few weeks in hospitalizations even if it's much milder which I actually do believe You know, I think some of the data, the data from South Africa is not particularly helpful for the United States, because we are older, fatter, and we have a totally different percentage of vaccinated people, and so... Yeah, South Africa has very little, very little vaccination.
00:33:56.000So, the data that's coming in from the UK, I think, is probably more relevant to us, and there seems to be good reason to think this is substantially milder, and it's resulting in a smaller percentage of people going to the hospital or dying, but a smaller percentage of a very, very large number If you are having 20,000 cases recorded a day, which means that the actual caseload is much higher than that, right?
00:34:18.000You're still going to see probably an increase in hospitalizations.
00:34:22.000But I think I think you're right, though.
00:34:24.000I think after this, a lot of people will have natural immunity, which is something that is for some reason only America doesn't talk about natural immunity.
00:34:34.000European countries consider like it's part of the policy calculation.
00:34:38.000Israel keeps it as part of the policy calculation.
00:34:41.000There's no reason other than bias and ideology, as far as I can tell, that natural immunity is not part of the conversation in the United States.
00:34:46.000And no talking about early treatment as well, which is ridiculous.
00:34:50.000We all heard Joe Biden the other day say there was no federal solution to this.
00:34:54.000And I mentioned that that was a massive statement.
00:34:57.000I saw people tweeting saying, oh, Joe Biden's giving up.
00:34:59.000And I'm like, no, no, no, it's bigger than that.
00:35:01.000Because he's basically saying everything they're pushing at the federal level is not going to be a solution to the problem.
00:35:10.000Ron DeSantis's office joins Kristi Noem and a host of Republicans demanding Biden get rid of useless sweeping nationwide rules after he admitted there was no federal solution for COVID.
00:35:21.000You know, when you look at Florida, and they have some of the lowest case rates in the country, cases of COVID, it's been going up.
00:35:29.000And then you look at, say, New York or California or Illinois.
00:35:31.000When you take a look at the mass exodus from states, it's clear.
00:35:34.000The economy is being destroyed in these states that are locking down like crazy.
00:35:38.000And it's not, it doesn't appear to be affecting the rate of transmission.
00:35:41.000In fact, The lockdowns may have actually made things worse.
00:36:10.000So in terms of previous pandemics, serious pandemics, now we've been lucky that since the Spanish flu, there's only been, in 1957, a not-as-bad pandemic.
00:36:22.000But we've been lucky, essentially, that we haven't had a major global pandemic, which is, I realize, redundant.
00:36:30.000So if you go back and look at, for example, yellow fever pandemics, outbreaks in the early United States, there are some very heavy-handed responses to that, but they were all state and local.
00:36:40.000For example, there was a barrier set up between New York City and Philadelphia because yellow fever was spreading so aggressively.
00:36:49.000People got turned out of their homes and their property was burned because that's how they thought the yellow fever was spreading.
00:36:55.000So our system gives a lot of latitude to the states.
00:36:59.000I think that's a good thing, that it gives a lot of latitude to the states, but there is no basis for A federal response.
00:37:05.000And furthermore, it's not just sort of old letter of the law constitution.
00:37:09.000The rules for New York City, especially early in a pandemic when we knew very little, have to be different where you run into, you know, 200 people just walking down the street.
00:37:18.000It makes absolutely no sense to apply those same rules in Montana.
00:37:21.000The United States is a huge and diverse country.
00:37:24.000And that's why our system of federalism, I think, is a good thing exactly in dealing with the pandemic.
00:37:32.000Well, we have this from the Daily Wire.
00:37:34.000White House rushes to walk back Biden's admission of no federal solution to COVID-19.
00:37:39.000Damn, I thought I was gonna agree with Joe Biden.
00:37:42.000On Monday, despite his earlier promises to shut down the virus, Joe Biden informed governors there was no federal solution.
00:37:47.000After his reversal of one of his key campaign promises sparked a huge backlash, the White House quickly moved to walk back his acknowledgement on that policy on Twitter.
00:37:55.000The White House attempted to laud the support provided to state governments by the Biden administration.
00:38:01.000Quote, the Biden-Harris administration is making sure states have what they need to tackle COVID, including 1,000 additional doctors and nurses, stockpiling millions of gowns, gloves, masks, and ventilators, adding vaccine and booster capacity, the White House tweeted, and more.
00:38:16.000Well, I think you can interpret it that way.
00:38:19.000They're trying to walk it back a little bit.
00:38:21.000Because I think when Joe Biden said there's no federal solution, a lot of people took it to say it was the white flag, like they were giving up.
00:38:27.000And now they're like, no, no, no, no, we're still doing something.
00:38:46.000If you really want to do something, you know, there's a lot of things you could be doing, especially when it comes to building up people's terrains, helping people, you know, have proper immune systems, talking about diet, talking about exercise, proper sleep, getting rid of stress, stopping the fear mongering.
00:39:00.000There's a lot of things that they could be doing, but obviously That their only bottom line is we have a product you got to take this product and and that to me is ridiculous and to see them kind of backtrack with this in this kind of lame attempt just shows you have how fragile this administration is how susceptible it is to criticism and and how absolutely weak it is it should absolutely be a state's issue and we saw the different states approach this differently Florida did a lot of things differently than New York did
00:39:29.000And a lot of people argue, socioeconomically and also medically, Florida made absolutely the right moves.
00:39:35.000And I think the more we decentralize power and authority, the better off we're going to be.
00:39:40.000The people will have more choices, and the people are going to be represented a lot better than the federal top-down bureaucracy, which obviously prioritizes a product over everything else.
00:40:32.000For merely stating the fact that we live in a federalist system and most of the decisions with regard to police power, which includes the power of uh... to to deal with pandemics are done on the state level
00:40:44.000in america they absolutely pillory him for that will first prompted
00:41:02.000this pissed me off is that we had multiple governors kill a bunch of
00:41:06.000elderly in their nursing homes. There's talk of settlements now, lawsuits over
00:41:09.000the elderly people, Cuomo being the greatest example but it wasn't just him.
00:41:13.000Michigan, New Jersey. That's right. Didn't California do it too? Pennsylvania?
00:41:17.000New Jersey. New Jersey. Cuomo knew. He was warned if you put these recovering people
00:41:22.000who have COVID and they're still infectious in the He did it anyway.
00:41:27.000That's what happens when you leave it up to the states and the federal government does nothing.
00:41:31.000At the very least, I can understand Trump being like, I can't force the states to do something, but he certainly could have sent in the DOJ or someone when they killed a bunch of old people.
00:41:50.000This is slightly conspiratorial, but probably not for this crowd.
00:41:54.000I think that the reason that Cuomo was forced out of office over mostly minor Me Too charges is because if he was forced out of office over this scandal, it implicates a bunch of other Democratic governors who all made that same decision.
00:42:08.000So I think it was just very inconvenient for the Democratic Party to have that investigation continue, so they threw him under the bus.
00:42:14.000And I'm no, like, sort of Cuomo, whatever, booster.
00:42:18.000But I think that this, a lot of the charges are either minor or I think, you know, that frankly I'm not sure that they happened, right?
00:42:28.000So I just think that's probably why he was forced out because otherwise they would have to actually talk about the fact that these policies weren't just in New York.
00:42:37.000I do love how Cuomo put out that video montage of him grabbing a bunch of people, being like, these people who are really mad that I grabbed them, I grab everybody!
00:42:48.000It's a combination of things that are minor, right?
00:42:50.000I would consider them minor, like they're rude.
00:42:53.000A man might deserve to get slapped in the face or a drink in the face for some of the things that he did, but they aren't assault.
00:42:59.000And then there are only one or two of the charges that rise to any level of seriousness, and those are the ones I have the most doubts about.
00:43:04.000That man was a monster, but there is definitely something bigger when it comes to the overblown accusations and charges that the corporate media went after him for.
00:43:12.000But didn't those accusations come out, like, right around the time people were calling out the killing of the old people?
00:43:17.000Like, the story just has shifted into the Me Too stuff.
00:43:23.000I was really convinced by a friend of mine's theory that the Republicans should, when they were impeaching, when Cuomo was not going to resign and they were drawing up articles of impeachment, the Republicans, there were enough of them in the assembly in New York To say they will not vote for impeachment, even though they're obviously the opposing party and wanted Cuomo out, unless the nursing harm, there was an article in the impeachment about the nursing home scandal.
00:43:49.000But of course they did not do that and Cuomo ended up, they wouldn't have had the balls to do it anyway, but Cuomo ended up resigning so that that opportunity was gone.
00:43:55.000But I think that would have been something really positive the Republican Party, even the minority, could have done in New York to make sure that it's formally in the document that this is part of why we're impeaching Andrew Cuomo.
00:44:10.000How often do we get these stories where Joe Biden says something and the White House panics and then retracts or pulls back and tries to walk it back?
00:44:18.000Joe Biden must be like sitting in his basement watching reruns of Who's the Boss or something, just totally oblivious to what's going on in the real world.
00:44:25.000And they bring him out, they give him the teleprompter, and that's why they don't want him answering questions.
00:44:48.000Someone saw that he had a list of journalists or something?
00:44:51.000He had cheat cards with their photos and their names and their media organizations and the pre-scripted questions that they were going to ask him.
00:45:09.000I often say that this conflict we're facing, the culture war, has to do with the people who are paying attention and know what's going on and the people who don't.
00:45:15.000The people who only watch mainstream media or CNN have no idea what's going on.
00:45:20.000I can sit here and have very different opinions from you, Ines, but we agree on reality to a greater extent, and that's why we're probably having a conversation.
00:45:58.000The family of raccoons that live inside Lauren Boebert's head have completely chewed through the wires.
00:46:04.000And he's quoting a tweet from Lauren Boebert where she says, it's almost the end of 2021 and I've yet to see Biden mobilize true international depression like he promised.
00:46:18.000I tweeted there accidentally mocking Biden but don't know enough to realize it.
00:46:22.000This Jeff Tiedrich guy is saying that the raccoons have chewed through the wires in Lauren Boebert's head because Lauren Boebert quoted Joe Biden.
00:47:14.000All of these tweets calling her insane, crazy, an idiot, a moron, etc.
00:47:19.000You only need to replace Lauren Boebert's name with Joe Biden because that's who she was mocking for, saying, "'Truan and Nana shabba da pressure.'"
00:48:03.000If they genuinely think Biden is sharpened with it and able to do this job when the dude speaks gibberish.
00:48:10.000And if you point it out, they think it's you speaking gibberish.
00:48:12.000This is why I have no anticipation that these people will be shamed or woken up, literally woken up, by watching a child be harassed by police.
00:48:23.000They're gonna pivot and pivot and pivot until they're dizzy and they literally don't know which side's up and which side's down or what's up and what.
00:48:45.000And promoted by, of course, the algorithms that make people see this and spread this kind of larger idiocracy to the general public.
00:48:52.000So again, this is not, I would say, a perfect reflection of reality, but this is the crazy car crash examples of reality that people stop and look at.
00:49:02.000But at the end of the day, this is still a car crash, and to me, not a representation of a lot of people.
00:49:07.000So there are a lot of, you know, people totally ignorant, not knowing what's going on.
00:50:51.000We say, hey guys, share shows like this, share these tweets, explain to people, make a meme of this, and then show the clip of Joe Biden saying, tune in on a shot of the pressure.
00:51:01.000Those videos where, here's, it's in my head, I can see it.
00:51:06.000It's a video of Joe Biden going, tune in on a shot of the pressure, tune in on a shot of the pressure.
00:51:10.000Then, it shows Jeff Tiedrich's tweet and plays the theme from Curb Your Enthusiasm or whatever.
00:51:24.000I think they just voted against Donald Trump.
00:51:26.000I think the corporate media kind of brought him to the presidency while he was hiding out in his basement, wasn't even campaigning, wasn't even there shaking hands with all the individuals.
00:51:36.000He was literally doing really crappy vlog videos from his basement.
00:51:41.000So, truly, this shows you the power of the corporate media.
00:51:45.000But I think a lot of people are being disenfranchised by it.
00:51:47.000And their relationship with big tech social media, I think, is the thing that is making a lot of people blind.
00:51:53.000But I think memes are a way of combating it.
00:52:00.000There's a lot of disinformation memes out there, but predominantly I think if it wasn't for memes, I think we would be dumbed down even a lot more than if it wasn't for memes.
00:52:08.000These are good things, like making the videos that debunk this stuff.
00:52:12.000But if you're only getting your information from a meme group... Or from Reddit, specifically, where again, everything's carefully curated and they push a vision that they want you to have.
00:52:23.000And again, I was going to talk about the intelligence agencies and the ties to them, but I don't want to go off that rant again.
00:52:28.000But I think it's fair to say, you know, this level of idiocracy, I think, is promoted in such a way where it looks like it's the norm.
00:52:39.000But people believing that it is the norm makes people more ignorant, makes people copy and mimic that behavior because they want to fit into what they're seeing online as what is popular.
00:52:49.000And that's the trick that's being played on people.
00:52:51.000I think it's a paradox for these media outlets, though, because the stronger and more obviously they spin the narrative, the more their institutional credibility collapses.
00:53:02.000And that is backed up by like survey after survey after survey.
00:53:05.000So I mean, that's why shows like this probably get more viewers than most CNN shows, right?
00:54:51.000Okay, so all of those people forced to watch the show, getting 250 million views per night, and all the government has to do is point the long arm of the law at them and threaten imprisonment, and then we get all the free money?
00:55:04.000Look, you'd be a great CEO to force your product on people, right?
00:55:40.000No, when I was younger, people were talking about the clicker ticket stuff and what I
00:55:44.000was told was that insurance companies lobbied so that when accidents, because accidents
00:55:50.000are going to happen no matter what, insurance companies got to pay out the medical.
00:55:53.000But if you if you lobby for seatbelt laws, it does reduce the amount of overall costs on the health care system.
00:55:58.000New Hampshire is one of the few places in the United States where there's no mandatory seatbelt laws, and they have some of the cheapest car insurance out there in the nation.
00:56:08.000But again, there's there's, of course, exceptions to the rule.
00:56:11.000There's also some, I don't know about sort of who lobbied for what, but there are a couple sort of out there studies that I can't necessarily endorse because I just don't know enough about the subject, but I have read a couple of studies that show that mandating seatbelts have made people more reckless drivers.
00:56:28.000People feel safer, they drive more recklessly.
00:57:08.000But they write, by covertly recruiting popular YouTube influencer Abigail Thorne to counter growing opposition to UK government COVID restrictions, PsyOps pros are bringing home the tactics they honed in the Syrian dirty war.
00:57:21.000Leaked documents have revealed a state-sponsored influence operation designed to undermine critics of the British government's coronavirus policies by astroturfing a prominent founder of the breadtube clique of anti-fascist YouTube influencers.
00:57:36.000The project aims to conduct psychological profiling on British citizens dissenting against policies such as mandatory vaccination and lockdowns, then leverage the data to establish a YouTube channel that portrays these critics as dangerous super-spreaders of disinformation.
00:57:53.000I was accused of spreading election disinformation and conspiracies because one time I retweeted somebody on Twitter and they happened to have been wrong.
00:58:03.000I don't know about the veracity of these claims, but this is us looking through, assuming it's all true, a keyhole into what is probably very, very prominent.
00:58:12.000Government agencies, intelligence operations, psyops, it's all real.
00:59:24.000Of course, Wikipedia is always true no matter what.
00:59:27.000He maintained, this is according to Wikipedia, as he maintained that journalists including himself and leading newspapers published material that had been fed to them or bought by the CIA and other Western intelligence and propaganda agencies.
00:59:38.000He was an assistant editor at the German newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, pronouncing that wrong, For several years until 2003, between 97 and his death, he authored a dozen books, including a number with populist themes.
01:00:22.000Why wouldn't the CIA be doing the exact same thing?
01:00:24.000Why wouldn't any other intelligence agency be doing the exact same thing?
01:00:27.000In the 1970s, there was congressional hearings with members of the CIA admitting that they have agents within all the major top news organizations.
01:00:36.000A lot of people attribute this incorrectly to Operation Mockingbird.
01:00:45.000You could watch the videos of CIA officials saying that they have infiltrated the top echelons of the corporate media and they are using, of course, that power of the corporate media in order to spread their stories or aka disinformation.
01:01:00.000But that's also how, like, a bunch of agencies operate anyway, i.e.
01:01:07.000And to specific media outlets, the relationships between, you know, bureaucrats and agencies.
01:01:12.000I mean, that's always a problem, particularly for Republican administrators, Republican administrations, because the bureaucracy is so overwhelmingly Democrat.
01:01:20.000But theoretically, if somebody like Bernie Sanders, for example, were to get in, As president, you would have the same problems because the bureaucracy is sort of like a technocratic, neoliberal left.
01:01:35.000We're talking about CIA agents implanted in the corporate media.
01:01:38.000I'm saying that the stories that you read are also seeded by people in agencies, often in service of like interagency, you know, dispute, right?
01:01:48.000What they allow out about the administration, then, you know, Helps them take down somebody in a sister organization, a sister agency that they don't like.
01:01:56.000I mean, there's a huge problem in this incestuous relationship between media and bureaucracy.
01:02:03.000You think it was bad back then that intelligence agencies could get someone from their division to work in a news organization, infiltrate?
01:02:12.000YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, TikTok are going to make it so incredibly easy for intelligence agencies to control the narrative and control the world.
01:02:33.000So when you have a million channels, and you have one guy who's, I don't know, Alex Jones, talking about all of these crazy things, some of which strangely turned out to be true.
01:02:43.000They simply say, get rid of him, and then he's gone.
01:02:47.000They're like, this does advance or at the very least doesn't interfere with.
01:02:51.000If you are advancing what they want and pushing the narrative they want, all of a sudden your videos are appearing on the front page of YouTube.
01:03:01.000See, back in the day when media organizations were few and far between relative to today.
01:03:05.000They needed to figure out how to seed stories, so it could be leaks, it could be overt, it could be liminal, it could be super liminal, or it could be subliminal.
01:03:12.000Nowadays, they have a million channels to choose from, and all they have to do is be like, buy ads on this channel.
01:03:19.000This person will make a bunch of money, they'll produce more content, and then we'll tell YouTube to put them on the front page.
01:04:35.000So, like, it is a way of getting completely around the actual democratic process of passing laws and enforcing them.
01:04:42.000This is why social media censorship is such a big deal, because it's very obvious what they've been doing over the past decade, with the banning and removal of certain commentators.
01:04:51.000And, you know, I guess I got to be a little optimistic on Rumble and their growth, but I'm still worried that's a short-term solution.
01:04:59.000The idea of getting rid of debates, concepts, and thinking is absolutely absurd.
01:05:05.000To say that this line of thinking or this line of questioning is not allowed is godlike authority that is obviously going to be abused, whether it's in the hands of Susan Wojcicki or the CIA, it doesn't matter.
01:05:16.000That's way too much power with infrastructure and information highways that were funded by tax dollars with also intelligence agencies connections.
01:05:25.000When you look at a lot of the startups A lot of these organizations, these big tech organizations, they had connections to intelligence agencies.
01:05:34.000I think a lot of these intelligence agencies saw this coming and that's why they embedded within them.
01:05:39.000They're working hand in hand with them.
01:05:40.000And I think they're using this to promote this, as you mentioned Tim, in many covert ways where we don't even realize that they're doing it.
01:05:48.000And it might not even be that as obvious as it used to be where they had an agent within CBS News, they don't have to do that anymore.
01:05:55.000They just have to control the algorithm, which I think they have a lot of sway in.
01:05:59.000At the very least, you can take a look at how YouTube operates, and we often have some of our segments, it's very obvious, some just are shadowbanned, some aren't.
01:06:08.000We, uh, for a while, they had all these channels in an isolation bubble where they stopped recommending them to any outside channel.
01:06:16.000So it's like if you were all, it was a clever way to destroy anti-establishment opinions.
01:06:21.000If you were in this group of people, they segmented you away from all the mainstream YouTube content.
01:07:33.000Also another huge change that was happening very subtly, not overtly, but I think slowly
01:07:41.000and surely, it just became an absolute crap show.
01:07:44.000And they did it by slowly boiling the water on Reddit and making it more and more progressive, making it more and more just absolutely insane as time went on.
01:07:52.000Just like with eBay and the color yellow, which Tim explains a lot, where people didn't like the color yellow, but they slowly changed it.
01:08:11.000And I think that's also happening with our kind of consciousness and the information that we're getting from a lot of these big tech platforms that are only getting crazier and crazier and crazier by the day.
01:08:21.000And I think that's exemplified with people getting crazy and also us dealing with a mental health crisis that we never, ever had before when it came through the onset of social media.
01:08:30.000Yeah, the great Jordan Peterson broke that down in an interview at some point in time where he was just like, if I shove you, you're going to fight back.
01:08:36.000But what I have to do is just kind of take an inch towards you and then another inch, another inch.
01:08:42.000And then before you know it, I've pushed you wherever I've wanted you to go to begin with, without having to take the measure of shoving you.
01:08:48.000I think the most important thing when you're thinking about, you know, how tech companies and how social media manipulate what's seen and what isn't is that we need to build new networks from scratch and whatever reliance anyone has on any of these networks, it's any of these companies, you have to operate on the assumption that eventually you'll get banned.
01:09:11.000And you have to build in advance, and think about it in advance, and build these networks anew.
01:09:15.000And look, there are major consequences to having a red and blue everything, right?
01:09:20.000Ideally, we would not have a red and blue coffee shop, a red and blue server provider, red and blue internet, right?
01:09:29.000But I don't see any alternative because there isn't going to be and the line is moving extremely fast in terms of like initially of course some of the most disturbing things that I saw are when it jumps away from social media and into real life because some people just with some legitimacy say like okay well you don't have a right to a Twitter account you don't have a right to a YouTube account That's true, but when every network bans you, every company bans you, there's a certain inability to get your message out.
01:09:57.000But even moving beyond that, they have jumped it into IRL, where you can't get a bank account.
01:10:03.000Maybe you can't use private transit like Uber and Lyft.
01:10:08.000problem and actually I mean this I get a lot of flack for making this comparison but not on the substance of it but on the like shape of the problem it starts to look very much like what the 1964 Civil Rights Act was put in place to solve right because the problem wasn't that one restaurant was not serving black Americans the problem is that every restaurant in an entire geographic area and every hotel and every service was not willing to serve a class of customer Because they had a predetermined cultural agreement that wasn't quote-unquote traditional antitrust, right?
01:10:43.000Because they're not talking to each other saying, we're freezing people out.
01:10:46.000There was a cultural, a modern culture, a cultural agreement not to serve certain customers.
01:10:52.000The shape of what's happening now I think is quite similar.
01:12:15.000It's a tough move, to be completely honest.
01:12:16.000Especially, you know, you've got a family, you've got to find a new job.
01:12:20.000But I'll tell ya, what worries me about all this, maybe worry isn't the right word, maybe, maybe I should say, what I noticed, is that we are now seeing that ideological polarization become geographical polarization.
01:12:32.000People are going to say no to Newsom and to, what, how do you say your name, Hochul?
01:12:48.000And I'm worried about what happens next when you then have a city that is 99% Democrat and another city that is 99% Republican, and they're just going to be like, y'all aren't welcome here, right?
01:13:00.000You're going to have that social contract you were mentioning just a moment ago, where one group says, we don't serve that other group of people, but now it's at the state level.
01:13:06.000But it's even happening between blue states.
01:13:08.000Like you were saying earlier, like Union City, New Jersey can't go into the city like they've been doing their whole lives.
01:13:14.000Because New York City is essentially saying, you're not welcome here.
01:13:16.000And your five-year-old's not welcome here, unless you do what we say.
01:13:19.000And you soon might not be able to travel to those particular states, as interstate travel could be vax-mandated soon, which is absolutely crazy.
01:13:27.000Oh yeah, they've been talking about putting up state borders.
01:13:29.000I mean, this sort of happened last year when police had checkpoints between Connecticut and New York because they were worried about New Yorkers fleeing into Connecticut.
01:13:38.000But I think we actually might see it happen.
01:13:40.000I mean, Europe, to a certain degree, has had some border checkpoints, but that's because they're like, we're countries, not states.
01:13:53.000The right to travel is pulled, I think it's under the 14th amendment.
01:13:56.000But yeah, it's, I think the essence of it is one of the liberties, right?
01:14:00.000That states cannot I wouldn't want to be in a state like, I don't know, California or Illinois.
01:14:05.000It's a court-invented doctrine, the right to travel.
01:14:07.000But the thing with California, it's not necessarily just the totalitarianism, although that does play a role in the thing I'm about to mention.
01:14:13.000It's just not being able to afford to live.
01:14:15.000You literally just can't afford to live in California right now.
01:14:18.000In California, it's, I think, a much longer trend than in some of these other places.
01:14:22.000In California, there's a vicious cycle where the middle class is being pushed out.
01:14:26.000It's impossible to live in California increasingly as a middle class family.
01:14:31.000As a combination of economic benefits and detriments, California is becoming extremely polarized
01:14:39.000between very wealthy people who can afford the costs and then a dependent class of poor people
01:14:44.000who are dependent on the state and the programs.
01:14:46.000That's a much longer term trend in California, although I'm sure it's accelerated now.
01:14:51.000But I'm not sure how much, like for example, it's not population normed.
01:14:57.000Like, California's just a much bigger state, so a smaller percentage of people, you know, could result in a very big bar graph.
01:15:04.000But my impression is that California has faced this problem for quite a few number of years, even before COVID, and it particularized on the middle class, which Makes the political situation worse because the middle class is the Republican base in California.
01:15:20.000So like the politics are becoming more unidirectional extreme as the middle class is getting pushed out.
01:15:24.000And it's probably why their borders are wide open as well so they could fill in the void.
01:15:28.000California actually discussed a huge tax.
01:15:33.000They discussed what should be wildly unconstitutional, but they discussed essentially a seizure of half of your assets when you exit the state to try to keep people from leaving.
01:15:41.000Well, it was like up to 10 years after you leave, they could tax you.
01:15:44.000It was like, good luck sending your tax agents to my state.
01:15:48.000It's important though, Florida has 21 million people and California has 39 million.
01:15:52.000So California, if you were to normalize, you know, for population, California is losing a lot of people relative to what Florida is gaining.
01:16:01.000You can also take a look at some of these other states that are smaller, like Mississippi or Maryland.
01:16:05.000When Maryland loses 19,871 people, Maryland doesn't have that many people relative to California.
01:16:11.000So you gotta understand population density as well.
01:16:13.000People are fleeing these blue lockdown states for, non-lockdown states, for the most part.
01:16:18.000Not completely, but for the most part.
01:16:21.000So, DC is very small in comparison even to all the states, so I would guess that if you normed this by population, you would see DC be on par if not beating out New York and California for fleeing, especially since the barrier to leaving in DC is so much lower because you can just move across the state line and still keep your job, keep your commute, keep your everything.
01:17:25.000From a swamp to a rat-infested sewer... Yeah, I mean, I'm a city person.
01:17:29.000I love New York City, despite some of the crazy politics.
01:17:33.000I've never lived, really, in a place where I agreed with the majority of my neighbors.
01:17:38.000But I think in terms of this moving and the decisions that people are making about, you know, geographically becoming more stratified, I think the real key would be using, like what you guys are doing, right?
01:17:52.000Using that move to build something new, to build those networks, because a lot of these forces are national, right?
01:17:59.000If everybody moves to West Virginia, even if they don't bring their liberal politics with them, even if it's only conservatives, for example, or people who oppose lockdowns or whatever it is, moving to West Virginia, a lot of these forces are national.
01:18:09.000West Virginia is just 20 years behind in terms of being, you know, sort of shaped, to your point about, Your point about shades of moving from yellow to white as a background color?
01:18:19.000You know, if these moves are not— But progressives are losing.
01:18:23.000I think that they still control—when you still have corporate media control, you have control of your bureaucracy, national bureaucracy.
01:18:32.000You have control of most of the culturally producing institutions, not the least of which are the academy and the K-12 schools.
01:18:39.000So for example, even in red states, public schools and the district officials are at least a standard deviation or two to the left of the population.
01:18:48.000These things move entire states, even red states, left over time.
01:18:52.000This is why the left is so freaked out about the rights assault on critical race theory.
01:18:55.000Because progressives don't have children, they have yours.
01:18:58.000I don't remember who told us that, but it's a good point.
01:19:01.000Conservatives have way more kids than liberals, and liberals are more likely to abort their children, meaning if you just went by family, you would have substantially more conservatives in 20 years, and the states would be turning red.
01:19:12.000However, the left, probably understanding this, has sought to indoctrinate the children of more conservative-leaning people.
01:19:19.000With conservatives now figuring out what's going on with critical race theory, this completely threatens everything about the left.
01:19:45.000Pew research showing that Generation Z is a teeny bit more conservative for the first time in a hundred years.
01:19:51.000A generation is a teeny bit more conservative because it's always been shifting more progressive.
01:19:56.000It's not because kids are, you know, getting woke or are getting red-pilled or getting woke or whatever.
01:20:02.000It's because there's more conservative families who had more conservative kids.
01:20:07.000But if the leftists get their way with critical race praxis in schools, then the kids of conservatives will become leftist and they will continue to expand their ideology.
01:20:15.000I wonder if that shift has to do with the fact that an increasing percentage of conservatives are not sending their kids into public school.
01:20:23.000But I mean, I have to lay this one at the feet of the right.
01:20:27.000I said I'm a conservative, so on my own sort of tribe or whatever.
01:20:34.000I mean, William F. Buckley wrote God, Man, and Yale 70 years ago, and exactly none of the Republican Party's political capital has ever been advanced to do a damn thing about education.
01:20:45.000And this is the result of decades of saying, oh, ha ha, you know, the blue-haired, woke kids, when they graduate and impact with the real world, they'll figure out how to make a dollar and they'll realize all this crazy stuff that they're doing on campus.
01:20:57.000is just wacky. Well of course all those kids now work in HR departments in Nike and they work in
01:21:04.000you know agencies in the federal government and they work in you know whatever all the
01:21:09.000other institutions media Hollywood right.
01:21:12.000This is an idiotic concept that you can turn over the entire education system to one side of the culture war and focus on whether the taxes are lower or higher.
01:21:22.000I'm in favor of low taxes, but that's not going to matter if your entire generation, we have now a generation and a half of kids who have learned Even way before critical race theory, the previous iteration of 1619, even the standard textbooks when I was in high school in the mid-2000s, those textbooks are already skewed left.
01:21:48.000We've put absolutely zero political capital into solving it, and we're now reaping the consequences of that.
01:21:54.000But even when there is an effort to create a school, like a charter school, let's say, that is going to, you know, not allow that kind of stuff, they ultimately do get infiltrated by the woke teachers who do bring on their woke stuff.
01:22:05.000Like, I remember talking to a handful of teachers at a charter school in San Diego.
01:22:11.000And it was only a matter of time before the teachers came in and they started teaching things that weren't in the curriculum.
01:22:16.000Teachers were called on it then the teachers started to unionize and then it became a disaster the grades dropped
01:22:21.000and now the schools Become kind of a gang zone
01:22:23.000Look, okay. So charter schools or public schools first of all, but this is happening even in private schools because
01:22:29.000again, you can't allow 90% of kids to go through what is essentially a political
01:22:34.000indoctrination and Imagine that that the rest of society is going to stay
01:22:39.000neutral on that So what's happening is because we allowed this problem to percolate for decades and now I mean look I'm really glad that this is now on the Republican agenda in a serious way largely thanks to pissed off parents who for the first time when they had Zoom school actually listened to what's being taught
01:22:59.000In their kids social studies classes, right?
01:23:02.000I cannot describe to you how many parents I've met who are like, I had no idea it was this bad until I actually listened to what was being taught.
01:23:14.000So in that sense, I think there's a silver lining.
01:23:16.000If there's a silver lining of the school closures that have caused so much devastation, it's that so many parents have gotten a front seat to how bad the indoctrination actually is.
01:23:24.000In a way that it's really hard to convince parents.
01:23:27.000You know, if they read, like, a news story or they see a video, they say, oh, like, that happens in that town, but that's not happening in my town.
01:24:27.000And what actually happened is all of those 60s and 70s radicals went and became professors in the universities.
01:24:32.000They went and became teachers in K-12.
01:24:34.000To your point about charter schools and the sort of influx, it's that There's the same bunch of consultants.
01:24:39.000There's the same bunch of teacher training, certified teacher trainings, the certification itself.
01:24:45.000The schools of education are the most left-wing parts of left-wing universities, right?
01:24:51.000There are national, this is kind of my point, there are national institutions involved here and every one of those national institutions is co-opted.
01:25:21.000But I think if you're not, if you're sort of moving and becoming complacent and saying, oh, I live in a red state now, I don't have to worry about these crazy You know indoctrinators or whatever you are wrong.
01:25:30.000You're talking about the importance of building culture too though.
01:25:32.000Can you build culture in those places?
01:25:34.000I was specific in my words for a reason.
01:25:37.000I think culture is essentially the product of that, right?
01:25:40.000All of those institutions and those networks, you always have individualists, you always have people who disagree, right?
01:25:46.000I went through public school my whole life.
01:25:49.000But I just think that to imagine that the education system has no impact on the political environment when those kids grow up and go get jobs and vote and participate in society is ludicrous.
01:26:03.000That's why the left cares so much about it.
01:26:05.000Well, this is what we're trying to do in West Virginia.
01:26:07.000You know, if you look at the little chart here, West Virginia isn't one of these states that has seen the most growth, and I think that is perfect.
01:26:15.000Look, I like Florida, and I like Texas.
01:26:27.000I think Florida and New Hampshire do a bit better in that regard.
01:26:30.000But it's got a lower population density, an excellent opportunity to build culture, create an economic space, bring more life to this particular area, and these values of the people who are here, Second Amendment, constitutional carry, freedom, liberty, individualism, responsibility, all that stuff, I'm for it.
01:26:46.000So we'll build culture around that, and that will create an economic center, maybe not the biggest in the world, maybe not the biggest ever, but big enough that will help people with these positions, with these policy positions, grow and succeed and have families.
01:26:58.000to the you also have to harness the actual so it's not I'm in total agreement with everything that you said but you can't completely forget public policy in fact West Virginia after you know this state was one of the last holdouts in terms of school choice private school choice in the country because there's a very powerful like the they're not really unions but The teachers unions here functionally have enormous power and were able to block those bills year after year after year in the Republican legislature even, right?
01:27:30.000Even after the changeover when all the Democrats essentially became Republicans here.
01:27:35.000But now, You have an education savings account program here.
01:27:38.000You have the largest education savings account program in the country in a state where just a year and a half ago you couldn't pass a tiny school choice program for kids with special needs because the dynamics have changed so overwhelmingly in these debates.
01:27:53.000I think that that's a really positive sign.
01:27:55.000So it's individual building networks, building new institutions.
01:27:59.000But it's also not forgetting that public policy is an important tool, and we shouldn't cut ourselves off from availing ourselves of that tool.
01:28:07.000Personally, I'm a Florida man at heart.
01:28:09.000I think there's a big fight that's going to happen in that purple state where there's a lot that kind of weighs for the future of this country.
01:28:16.000But also, I think another big victory that we should kind of talk about is more people homeschooling than ever.
01:28:23.000Homeschooling networks also becoming more prominent.
01:28:25.000People coming together and saying, hey, these institutions have failed us.
01:28:31.000And sharing resources, sharing professionals in the field, and then being able to sit at home and actually Raise their children as they want without any state indoctrination because essentially if you look at education centers I mean one they're outdated they were created by the Rockefeller system that was trying to create literally factory workers it's nonsensical and a lot of the stuff that they teach them it's not only just brainwashing but a lot of it is also impractical they could be learning real life skills in the real world if people take
01:29:05.000Time to homeschool their children And I think that's one of the best things you could do in this life by by helping raise the future of this country So formally legally there's always a separation on the usually on the request of homeschoolers between education savings account programs and And homeschooling because they don't want any a lot of people just don't want any money coming in from the government But you can build something very similar and it allows a lot more people to build something of that way So for example in Florida where they do have an ESA program that's pretty well established you have families building what they're calling micro schools where you just have a
01:29:40.00010 families who pool their money from this education savings account program that sends a portion of the state funds that they would have spent in the public school to the family directly.
01:29:50.000And you see parents actually, you know, doing something really amazing.
01:29:54.000They're finding other people who are sort of like-minded about what education they want to give their kid.
01:29:59.000And they're pooling that money and essentially creating a small school.
01:30:04.000And that's really what modern homeschooling oftentimes looks like.
01:30:15.000People say, oh, I want my kid to be socialized.
01:30:18.000Modern homeschooling has a lot of co-ops.
01:30:20.000It has a lot of groups and activities where kids from different homeschooling families get together.
01:30:26.000So in terms of practical as opposed to legal, there's a very sharp legal distinction.
01:30:31.000But practically, I think that ESA has opened up something that looks a lot more like modern homeschooling for a ton more families.
01:30:38.000And there's been a lot of attacks against homeschooling and this larger idea that it's insular, that you're going to be home, they're not going to be socializing.
01:30:45.000That idea is absolutely lost and absolutely stupid.
01:30:48.000New Hampshire has a huge network of homeschoolers, and New Hampshire, I believe, has one of the highest IQs per state per capita than almost anywhere else in the United States.
01:30:58.000So I think that speaks true to the effect that people are having when they're coming together in areas like New Hampshire, like in Florida, and they're saying, hey, when it comes to raising a child, this is something that's important, that we can't just leave up to random strangers.
01:31:13.000When you do that, Bad things happen and I think this is why we have such a big problem in this country because too many people relied on these institutions that are corrupted.
01:31:21.000Well even if you rely on somebody else to teach your child the responsibility is always with the parents and we've seen we saw that play out in the Virginia election right where McCullough is literally was straight up saying parents have no right to Decide on what their children learn in public schools, which is ludicrous, right?
01:31:39.000But that's that is the ludicrous position that you end up with over time When that cultural memory of parents being the primary educators of their children Even if they then hire someone to do the job for them that primary responsibility still lies with the parents And I'm really I'm hopeful on this.
01:31:57.000I think I think that parents are recovering that power of sitting in the driver's seat of their
01:32:02.000children's education and not thinking that because there's a bunch of experts bleeding that you
01:32:08.000need a PhD in child development in order to teach your kid math.
01:32:12.000I think parents are really waking up to the fact that those institutions have seized a
01:32:16.000lot of power from parents and that they're determined to get it back.
01:33:46.000Well, the best thing you guys can do is if you like the show, to share it and tell your friends about it.
01:33:50.000That's how podcasts grow, is that people play it in front of other people or tell people to listen to it.
01:33:56.000Friends will come over and they'll be like, you know, they'll be chilling with the show in the background or something like that or in the car.
01:34:23.000Rakeda is always welcome to come back on the show.
01:34:25.000We're big fans, and he does an excellent show, and whatever beef there is between other people, nothing to do with us.
01:34:32.000But by all means, not cool if that's the case.
01:34:35.000I haven't seen it, but if I see it, then I will absolutely expand upon it.
01:34:39.000AmateurAnth says, SimCast IRL, we need to fight for our rights to party and our right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, which the government has taken away since women have had the right to vote.
01:35:17.000I think one of the, to move away from the extreme case, but like, I do think that there are some political differences between men and women, not just the obvious.
01:35:26.000There are more male Republicans, there are more female Democrats.
01:35:29.000But I think women often are sort of the gatekeepers of whatever the sort of institutional culture or the small C conservative sort of cultural memory of a place.
01:35:41.000And so if the institutions go one direction, I think women kind of preserve that,
01:35:49.000whereas men tend to be more willing to buck an institution or like for example, social arrangement than women.
01:35:55.000Obviously these are generalizations and there's plenty of women who buck those arrangements
01:36:00.000and men who don't, but I think that that's part of the reason we're seeing women vote so much more Democrat.
01:36:07.000I think it's like alignment of sort of the the regime and I mean that in the like Aristotelian sense not like in the Putin's regime kind of way, but I think women tend to align more with the regime of a place so I More agreeable.
01:36:23.000All right, the Sinister Sibling says, things are getting worse here in Australia.
01:36:27.000They refusing food and produce from unjabbed farms, enhancing a food shortage.
01:36:32.000There are now attempts by our state governments to ban the non-compliant from being able to vote.
01:36:58.000The state says provide service to the state, in this case, get your vaccine and then you can vote and everyone else can't?
01:37:05.000So but the smaller version of this happened in New York City during the city elections.
01:37:10.000And yes, apparently, they cannot under federal law prevent, for example, somebody from voting because they're not wearing a mask.
01:37:16.000So there were some attempts and some like, just disagreement or but yeah, so that we have, fortunately, we have some legal institutions in place in the United States that will prevent that from happening, at least for some time.
01:37:55.000Saying, we're not gonna do business with you because of your vaccine policies, taking away benefits for employees, and it cost him, what he said, seven figures.
01:38:03.000He was willing to forego millions of dollars to his business to do what was right.
01:38:07.000That is exactly what we've been talking about, saying you gotta stand up.
01:38:11.000And I'm not telling people to, you know, sacrifice that much money from their business.
01:38:15.000And I'm even saying, I understand a lot of people might have difficulties, but that is the example of standing up, man.
01:39:35.000David Traces says, anyone who is willing to demand papers from a child will put that child on the rail car if ordered to.
01:39:41.000I completely agree, and that's why I tweeted the quote from Michael Malice when he said, There is no law so obscene that a police officer would not be willing to enforce it up to and including executing innocent children.
01:41:58.000They're really good at social enforcement.
01:42:00.000Ryan Long's new sketch is hilarious where it's a left-wing and right-wing podcaster presenting their sponsors.
01:42:06.000And the left-wing podcast says, I don't like that Bunker Ties advertises on Patriot Podcast.
01:42:10.000And then it shows the Patriot Podcast going, Bunker Ties will no longer be advertising with us.
01:42:14.000It's like even right-wing companies, that whole hubbub over Black Rifle Coffee, should never have happened.
01:42:23.000Conservative companies and politicians, Republicans, care more about the opinion of the New York Times than their own constituents and fans.
01:42:32.000Wraith Customs Firearms says, Hey crew, former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid just died, reported 30 minutes ago via all major mainstream outlets.
01:42:40.000Can we get your thoughts on him and him Luke?
01:42:47.000He was very big into getting information out about aliens.
01:42:51.000I don't know too much about him other than that.
01:42:54.000I don't wish to kind of say anything else further, to be honest.
01:42:57.000Yeah, you know, I don't know a whole lot about Harry Reid, to be completely honest, because he was before my time.
01:43:02.000I know that he was into aliens and stuff like that, but for the sake of someone just died, I try to let, you know, things simmer down a little bit.
01:43:14.000If no independent or conservative outlets talked about COVID for two weeks or a month, what do you think would happen in the current state?
01:43:36.000That's how you end up with just a small letter for Covington kids.
01:43:38.000The response typically will fact check or call it out.
01:43:41.000But it's possible that if they don't talk about it, the leftist narrative becomes dominant, and then they enact a whole bunch of crazy policies because there's no pushback.
01:43:57.000Not for the mechanism that you're talking about, but just because I think there's a certain percentage of hysterical people on the left who literally continue to do things just to prove they're not Republicans.
01:44:08.000I mean, we saw people saying that about math.
01:44:10.000Oh, I wear a mask because people will think I'm a Republican.
01:45:02.000Yeah, I've always thought we should take it seriously, but the issue is not to the extent that the Democrats have been doing, acting like the world's ending.
01:46:33.000Potentially in a month to three months a lot of scientists are saying that this is the best case scenario because it will build up to natural immunity and then people will of course end this official sickness.
01:46:42.000So I think there's a possibility I think 80% chance from my own personal perspective that that could happen unless there's another mutation that is again highly debated how it comes up and how it's made but who knows how it will go but I think from everything I'm seeing it's going to be over in a month to three months.
01:47:02.000I think for slightly annoying reasons, which is that once all of the reporters in Brooklyn get this behind them, the country will be able to get it behind the entire country.
01:47:12.000And I think you're already seeing the narrative shift at lightning speed, and I think that's what's going to happen unless, as you say, if there is some major new strain That really changes the equation in some way, but through a combination of vaccinated and natural immunity now, plus the all-important social factor of the hipsters in Brooklyn getting it, I think that last factor is probably more important than any scientific reason.
01:47:37.000Naturally, a new variant coming that's going to be more lethal and more dangerous is very, very, very rare, and that's why I'm saying that's the situation that's going to happen.
01:48:23.000I mean, well, yeah, because I mean, we the director already came out as you know, like, this is all about him dealing with his own anxiety about climate change.
01:48:30.000You can also watch it through the lens of the flip side of it.
01:48:33.000It's just like, it's not comet hysteria.
01:49:20.000That's what killed me about the mainstream, the corporate press coverage, is that, like, the story was this guy came in and he said that and that's just so disrespectful and awful.
01:51:05.000You're, you're, you're not being honest that you would not move there if it was worse.
01:51:10.000That's, that's what I'm worried about too.
01:51:11.000When we see that exodus, how many of these people that are leaving these blue states are actually more conservative leaning or how many are just more progressive and Democrats are going to bring those policies to Florida and Texas?
01:51:23.000So when you have companies that move their seats, for example, from San Francisco to Austin, you're going to change the makeup of the state.
01:51:31.000Because then it won't just be the people who voluntarily leave, some of whom are still sort of liberal Democrats and leaving for other reasons.
01:51:39.000But at least the majority of people have some skepticism because they're leaving.
01:51:44.000Once you have companies move their seats to some of these places, they'll just ask their employees to move out and it'll be an indiscriminate selection of mostly rich people in, for example, San Francisco.
01:51:56.000And then it'll get really, really bad, the political sort of thing.
01:51:59.000This is what I was saying about Joe Rogan moving from California to Texas.
01:52:03.000You know, there was that comic we bring up, I think it was Ben Garrison, where he's walking from California carrying a bag.
01:52:09.000The bag says liberal policies and there's a Texan being like, hey, leave that where you came from.
01:52:15.000When Elon Musk moves his headquarters from California, all of those California employees who are leftist or left-leaning are now in Texas, and they're now gonna vote.
01:52:24.000So it's not a good thing when these companies move.
01:52:26.000Everyone's like, yeah, you show California who's boss, and then they bring all those employees to Texas and they change the makeup, especially when it's at risk of flipping.
01:52:47.000Yeah, and you know water seeks its level eight inches per mile squared and stuff never go full Ian. What is it?
01:52:55.000Yeah I was thinking about this when I saw the super chat.
01:53:00.000I was like, if you had like a big plane that was like a hundred square miles and you put like a hundred tons of water in the middle, how deep would it be in the middle?
01:53:09.000Like, I don't actually know and I'm sure there's actually an easy way to find out, but would it be leveled all the way across or would it be deeper in the middle because of surface tension?
01:53:17.000It would be level, I would think, to any measurable degree.
01:53:19.000That's why he's saying 8 inches per mouse squared.
01:54:42.000The previous versions of the Civil Rights Act did not include the public accommodations clause.
01:54:46.000So the debate over putting in the public accommodations clause was because Even when some of those segregation laws were rolled back on the state level, you still had a massive cultural agreement among businesses that functionally continued segregation.
01:55:01.000Which is why the debate over that, I should have clarified, not said the whole act, but the public accommodations piece of the Civil Rights Act, which was the major difference between the 64 Act and its previous iterations.
01:55:16.000Luke, you made a move like you were going to say a word?
01:55:37.000So see if you can connect and I think you know be cool to do like a sit-down interview or something and discuss views from a former police officer and why you retired and does it have anything to do with what's going on?
01:58:03.000No, I mean, that was kind of why I think it's good that the police is doing it.
01:58:06.000Because when it's the business, there is not really anybody to directly hold accountable that has power over the policy itself.
01:58:14.000So I agree that the police need to be held accountable, but ultimately the people who need to be held accountable are the people making the political decisions that are ordering the police to do it.
01:58:33.000You should go to TimCast.com and check out Pop Culture Crisis.
01:58:36.000It is a podcast talking about TV shows, movies, etc., pop culture issues.
01:58:43.000Sometimes talks about cultural stuff, but mostly pop culture, and then sometimes talk about pop culture stuff, but mostly culture and politics.
01:58:49.000So that's why we were like, we should do a separate show, because we've got a ton of opinions on the new movies that are coming out.
01:58:53.000We of course love all these movies and music, so let's make a show for it.
02:00:13.000That's all I can really say about it for the most part other than I hope everybody can figure out how to find peace and get along and we can, you know, strive to do better with fighting towards liberty and freedom.
02:01:50.000In the United States, you can vote for whatever you want, but there is a dominant social culture, man, so... Alright, let's just read one more.
02:01:58.000I don't know a whole lot about what's going on in the UK, but we definitely need the data and there was a big controversy because Pfizer doesn't want to release it until what, like 2050 or something?
02:02:05.000BBC UK media, the data cannot be trusted and a review has to happen.
02:02:09.000I don't know a whole lot about what's going on in the UK, but we definitely need the data
02:02:13.000and there was a big controversy because Pfizer doesn't want to release it until what, like
02:03:19.000It does look like Kamala Harris said that democracy is the biggest national security threat in a CBS interview, which is really interesting.