Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - June 29, 2022


Timcast IRL - Ocasio Cortez Asked About 2024 Run, Says INSANE Civil War Nonsense On TV w-Royce White


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 6 minutes

Words per Minute

195.69656

Word Count

24,723

Sentence Count

1,990

Misogynist Sentences

46

Hate Speech Sentences

105


Summary

J.O.Cortez gets caught lying AGAIN, and it's hilarious. Plus we talk about Roe v. Wade and why AOC should be our next president. If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and leave us a rating and review!


Transcript

00:00:00.000 you you
00:00:41.000 you so we were going to lead with the story about J6 that woman
00:01:06.000 who got caught lying again.
00:01:08.000 It's funny because you have conservative papers that hate Trump and you have Democrats and they're all like, this is the bombshell testimony.
00:01:13.000 And then a bunch of people come out and they're like, yeah, I will swear under earth she's lying, but they believe it anyway.
00:01:17.000 And then we thought, you know what?
00:01:19.000 It's just so boring.
00:01:21.000 Can we make fun of Ocasio-Cortez instead?
00:01:23.000 Cause Colbert asked her to run for president or ask if she was going to run for president.
00:01:26.000 And she didn't say no.
00:01:27.000 And she was like, yeah.
00:01:29.000 And then she also—it's really amazing because, you know, please, someone help this country.
00:01:36.000 AOC goes on primetime television to millions of people, and she strung a bunch of words about the Civil War together that made literally no sense, and everyone's clapping for it, and I'm just like—it's amazing.
00:01:49.000 She made comments about Abraham Lincoln, the Supreme Court, Why Joe Biden should take certain action, and it's like she just made it all up.
00:01:57.000 It's absolutely amazing.
00:01:58.000 Her timeline is wrong.
00:02:00.000 Her history is wrong.
00:02:01.000 The actions taken were wrong.
00:02:03.000 And I'm sitting there watching, and Colbert's like, you should be president!
00:02:05.000 And I'm like, oh, man.
00:02:07.000 That's actually pretty Chad.
00:02:08.000 You know, just go on television in front of a bunch of people who can fact check you and start making stuff up.
00:02:14.000 Like, yeah, no, he should do this, because that's what Abe Lincoln did.
00:02:16.000 And you're like, do you have a source?
00:02:18.000 Like, I made it up.
00:02:18.000 Yeah, no, I made it up.
00:02:19.000 That happened six years.
00:02:20.000 She's like, Abraham Lincoln, you know, Dred Scott was issued.
00:02:24.000 So Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation.
00:02:26.000 And it's like, AOC, that was six years before.
00:02:28.000 Six years!
00:02:29.000 What are you talking about?
00:02:30.000 She said the Confederates packed the Supreme Court, or she said the Confederates got their people into the Supreme Court.
00:02:36.000 It's like, what are you talking about?
00:02:38.000 You know what?
00:02:38.000 OK, so it's going to be fun roasting all that.
00:02:41.000 But there's some other funny news, too, in Iowa.
00:02:44.000 But after Roe v. Wade's repeal, Republicans gained in the polls.
00:02:49.000 So they can come out, and I'll tell you this too, the Democrats were funding Trump-supporting candidates, thinking it was going to help them.
00:02:55.000 And then in Colorado, the moderate won.
00:02:57.000 So they wasted all of that money and just propped up and expanded Trump's message.
00:03:02.000 These people are not smart people.
00:03:03.000 And AOC, she really, really does prove it every single day.
00:03:07.000 So we're going to talk about that.
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00:05:37.000 So don't forget to smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and joining us today to discuss all of this, we got Royce White.
00:05:44.000 Thanks for having me.
00:05:45.000 Who are you?
00:05:46.000 What do you do?
00:05:47.000 Well, I guess the most important thing I'm doing right now is running for United States Congress against Ilhan Omar in Minnesota's 5th Congressional District.
00:05:55.000 And we're in the dead heat of that campaign.
00:05:57.000 I got a primary August 9th against a rhino uniparty globalist who said that abortion was red meat politics for the base at our convention.
00:06:08.000 Wow.
00:06:08.000 And when Roe v. Wade passed, she celebrated it because, I mean, you don't have to keep account of the things you said yesterday.
00:06:14.000 When it got overturned, she acted like it was a big deal.
00:06:16.000 Yeah, she acted like she was on board.
00:06:17.000 So, yeah, running for Congress, also playing in the Big Three.
00:06:20.000 Our season started two weeks ago, and I got that going on as well, and still training mixed martial arts every day in preparation for whenever the election is over to try and fight again.
00:06:31.000 Right on, man.
00:06:32.000 Thanks for hanging out.
00:06:32.000 We also got Shim Sham.
00:06:34.000 Yeah, before I introduce myself, I just wanted to make a comment here.
00:06:37.000 You mentioned the Republicans becoming more popular after banning abortion.
00:06:42.000 There's this talking point we kept hearing about Roe v. Wade, and if it's overturned, people will turn against Republicans.
00:06:47.000 It'll hurt them in the polls.
00:06:48.000 Like, yeah, you know what's gonna make Republicans really unpopular?
00:06:51.000 If they accomplish something.
00:06:53.000 Yeah, once ever that would be so bad for them doing what the Republicans ask the politicians to do is bad for
00:07:01.000 50 years They finally did the thing finally accomplished that looks
00:07:06.000 it's a bad look. I know I am Seamus Coughlin I run a YouTube channel called freedom tunes and this
00:07:12.000 unfortunately is gonna be my last show for a while So they've made me a cake which I very much appreciate lids
00:07:18.000 decorated. This is what's the five four Because for just five bucks a month
00:07:23.000 Freedom tunes commie So I know that I'm going to be leaving the show for a while here, folks, but you can still get your dose of Seamus.
00:07:33.000 Go to FreedomTunes.com, become a member.
00:07:35.000 You'll get an extra cartoon each week.
00:07:37.000 You'll be helping us get independent from YouTube.
00:07:39.000 I love you all.
00:07:40.000 And I think this is going to be a great show.
00:07:42.000 It says we'll miss you on the cake.
00:07:43.000 It says we'll miss you.
00:07:44.000 I know you won't.
00:07:46.000 We're not about fake news on this show, so I gotta fact check that.
00:07:49.000 But hold on.
00:07:50.000 It says we'll miss you.
00:07:51.000 It's not necessarily... That's not indicative of a consensus, right?
00:07:56.000 At least two people here will miss me.
00:07:58.000 Oh, that's true.
00:07:59.000 At least two.
00:08:00.000 At least two.
00:08:00.000 At least two people.
00:08:01.000 Fair point.
00:08:02.000 Technically correct.
00:08:03.000 Happy birthday, Seamus.
00:08:04.000 But not morally accurate.
00:08:05.000 Thank you.
00:08:06.000 But not morally correct.
00:08:08.000 What's up, everybody?
00:08:09.000 Ian Crossland up in the house.
00:08:11.000 Nothing to shout out yet, so let's just get going.
00:08:13.000 Let's move it along.
00:08:14.000 I'm excited.
00:08:15.000 We always have a great time with Royce.
00:08:16.000 I am the one who did the lettering on that cake.
00:08:18.000 It is not my finest work, but I did it in about 10 minutes.
00:08:21.000 I think I should have said Irish you already.
00:08:23.000 That was Brett's idea.
00:08:25.000 I know.
00:08:25.000 I was like, why were you not here 10 minutes earlier?
00:08:27.000 But oh well, we will miss Seamus.
00:08:29.000 All right, everybody, let's jump into this first story.
00:08:31.000 We got it from the Huffington Post.
00:08:32.000 You know how much we love the Huffington Post.
00:08:34.000 That's right, they're getting married, everybody!
00:08:36.000 reply when asked if she'll run for president.
00:08:39.000 The popular progressive House member had just watched Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony at
00:08:43.000 the January 6th hearing when Colbert popped the question.
00:08:46.000 That's right, they're getting married, everybody!
00:08:47.000 Colbert and AOC.
00:08:48.000 I'm kidding.
00:08:49.000 So he asks her, he's like, this is really, really funny because he roasted Joe Biden
00:08:54.000 at the same time, so respect for that.
00:08:58.000 They don't actually...
00:08:59.000 They don't actually show what he said about Colbert, that's funny.
00:09:01.000 He said no matter how many times people ask Joe Biden if he's going to run for re-election, and he says yes, they ignore what he says and then ask other people to run.
00:09:10.000 So the New York Times actually ran this article.
00:09:12.000 Check this out.
00:09:13.000 Biden irked by Democrats who won't take yes for an answer on 2024.
00:09:17.000 Yo, it's not about taking yes for an answer.
00:09:20.000 It's about how even if you say yes, they're like, dude's brain doesn't work.
00:09:23.000 So they don't think he's going to run anyway.
00:09:25.000 So here's the best part.
00:09:28.000 Colbert's like, I know someone who's going to turn 35 right before the election.
00:09:33.000 Haha.
00:09:33.000 Could it be you?
00:09:34.000 And then she said, listen, we need to keep, we need to focus on keeping democracy for anybody to be president the next couple of years.
00:09:40.000 She replied, my central focus is helping the people of this country right now.
00:09:44.000 So it's possible.
00:09:45.000 I don't know about that.
00:09:46.000 Well, I don't think she's actually going to run.
00:09:49.000 But the fact that on primetime TV, Stephen Colbert is asking her if she will.
00:09:53.000 I think what we're seeing, you had CNN say, Hillary, it's her time now.
00:09:57.000 Did you see that article from Chris Eliza and then everyone made fun of her?
00:09:59.000 This is hilarious.
00:10:01.000 One of her, her former campaign strategists came out and said, her polling is actually, her numbers are, her ratings are worse than Trump's.
00:10:08.000 So he's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, Hillary.
00:10:10.000 No, she's not coming back.
00:10:12.000 I think the Democrats and the corporate press, they're desperate to try and find someone.
00:10:17.000 I think the goal of asking AOC is so that they drop the stone in the water to see where the ripples go.
00:10:23.000 They make the statement, and now they want to see how the press handles it and what the reaction from the public is.
00:10:27.000 They never said she's going to run, but what happens if all of a sudden people start saying, yeah, AOC should run, and there's big fervor and fire under it?
00:10:34.000 Then they'll be like, oh, yeah, okay.
00:10:36.000 So they're testing the waters, trying to see who they can get.
00:10:39.000 And I gotta be honest, when I heard that they asked, that Colbert asked if she'd run, I'm like, out of all the Democrats that are available, she'd beat them all.
00:10:48.000 Save Michelle Obama, maybe.
00:10:50.000 But Gavin Newsom, AOC would do better.
00:10:52.000 Well, I think there's an important point here.
00:10:55.000 So if the Democrats know anything that they're starting to realize that they don't have that much of a shot in 2024 if trends continue, there's not much hope for their party right now.
00:11:06.000 And so it could be possible that what they would plan on doing is putting up some throwaway candidate in 2024 who's anti-establishment and actually relatively popular with their base.
00:11:16.000 So that next time an election comes along when a Democrat actually does stand a chance of winning, they can go, we tried this anti-establishment person.
00:11:23.000 The people weren't interested.
00:11:24.000 They lost.
00:11:25.000 We're not going to run them.
00:11:26.000 Or they can use this as an opportunity to raise AOC's profile.
00:11:30.000 That too.
00:11:30.000 Right now, she's just a popular House member.
00:11:32.000 She's not a senator.
00:11:33.000 She's not that big.
00:11:35.000 A presidential campaign run, where they expect to lose, can push her up to a very prominent public space at the national level.
00:11:43.000 Am I in this conversation already?
00:11:44.000 Absolutely, yeah, jump in!
00:11:45.000 Okay, good.
00:11:47.000 We gotta debunk this right now.
00:11:48.000 I can't stand it.
00:11:50.000 This whole facade that AOC is anti-establishment... Fair enough, fair enough.
00:11:54.000 ...is a complete scam.
00:11:55.000 They want to run her as anti-establishment, but I want to say that the ploy that they're running is that when you say you're socialist, then you're anti-corporate, but when you plan to expand socialism to the global scale, it's the ultimate form of corporatism.
00:12:10.000 Yeah, I would agree.
00:12:11.000 And also, there's nothing AOC believes that our public education system has not been set up to brainwash children into believing.
00:12:17.000 So, I know, I totally agree with you.
00:12:18.000 I mean, she eats out of the palm of the establishment, but she's viewed as an outsider.
00:12:22.000 But if they don't, and I wanted to say, if they don't win in 2024, it's over.
00:12:27.000 Because the Young America First populist movement that's on the rise, is going to go in and crush the old narrative that allowed an AOC to pose as anti-corporate.
00:12:39.000 And it's all mostly predicated on, one, the story of blacks historically in the country.
00:12:45.000 That's kind of the linchpin of grievance politics and anti-establishment.
00:12:49.000 But also the young people who are indoctrinated at schools.
00:12:52.000 And if the conservatives win in the midterms in 2024, we got to go back and take those schools.
00:12:58.000 I think we're headed towards a, there's a strong possibility of hyper-racialization happening in the next several years.
00:13:05.000 There was a viral thread where this dude said, you know, there are young white men in school being told that they're the oppressors.
00:13:14.000 Then they see that most people in college are female.
00:13:17.000 Then they see that, like, you know, when they apply for a job, they're like, we're not hiring any white men.
00:13:22.000 And so this is a big thread where they explain that, you know, maybe it applies to older white men.
00:13:27.000 because when those older white men were younger, they were the majority and they controlled a lot
00:13:31.000 of the space. But now that it's inverted, younger white men are growing up being told that they're
00:13:35.000 the evil oppressors, but they're getting held back and they're getting restrained. So they're
00:13:38.000 getting angry and they're forming racial identitarian groups, or they're starting to
00:13:43.000 coalesce around race. So the left in pushing this stuff, I think is hyper racializing everything.
00:13:49.000 100%.
00:13:51.000 What they're banking on is that white people are always going to self-flagellate every single time a discussion on racial issues comes up, because that's sort of been the status quo.
00:13:58.000 But ultimately, at some point, white guilt runs out.
00:14:01.000 So it's generational.
00:14:02.000 It's generational memory.
00:14:05.000 What people don't understand when it comes to politics, they talk about the pay gap, right?
00:14:08.000 Yeah, but for which demographic?
00:14:10.000 The pay gap exists, for sure, among boomers.
00:14:13.000 The pay gap exists among millennials, but it's inverted.
00:14:16.000 Millennial women make more money than millennial men.
00:14:18.000 Millennial women are more likely to graduate college than millennial men.
00:14:21.000 Yet they keep pushing a narrative as if it's the younger generation suffering what the older generation went through, and that's going to cause a serious problem.
00:14:28.000 Because in these stories, whether it's about leftist racial identitarianism, Creating more white identitarianism or social issues that were relevant 50 years ago not being relevant today and then punishing young people today based on the grievances of the past, you're going to raise a generation with an inverted system which causes oppression, which causes anger and animosity.
00:14:53.000 The only difference is right now they're telling the young majority white males that they're
00:14:58.000 evil and oppressors and then restricting them.
00:15:01.000 But these young, young men don't know anything about the civil rights movement.
00:15:05.000 They didn't experience that.
00:15:06.000 They weren't part of it.
00:15:07.000 They don't know anything about slavery.
00:15:08.000 Jim Crow.
00:15:09.000 They weren't a part of it.
00:15:10.000 They don't think about the clan.
00:15:11.000 They don't, they, they, they're not alive during a time of the clan and they weren't
00:15:13.000 a part of it, but they're still the majority.
00:15:16.000 So what happens when you raise the majority and tell them that they're evil oppressors and you take from them, you make it harder for them?
00:15:25.000 Yo, they're going to come out in force.
00:15:26.000 They're going to vote in force.
00:15:28.000 And then it's really going to flip.
00:15:29.000 This pendulum is going to swing hard in the other direction.
00:15:33.000 A bunch of kids that believe they're evil oppressors grew up to become evil oppressors.
00:15:37.000 No, that's not what I'm saying.
00:15:39.000 I'm saying that it's possible, a lot of them do.
00:15:42.000 It's that this 17-year-old white kid is like, you said there's a pay gap?
00:15:47.000 Why do all the women make more money?
00:15:49.000 You said that men are privileged?
00:15:51.000 How come I can't get a job?
00:15:52.000 You said that men are privileged?
00:15:53.000 How come the women are the ones who are graduating from college?
00:15:56.000 How is it me?
00:15:57.000 Because they do not live in the generations past.
00:16:00.000 This thing where people are telling us one thing but it's not right, like that the economy is doing great when you have like the speaker.
00:16:07.000 It's driving people crazy.
00:16:08.000 It's driving me crazy.
00:16:09.000 It's got to be driving young people crazy because they don't have the context I have at least, the outlet I have for the most part.
00:16:14.000 Not that all of them don't, but I mean it's got to be driving people insane.
00:16:18.000 That's dangerous, man.
00:16:19.000 My concern about the entire race conversation that I've been thinking about more recently is the concept of white itself.
00:16:28.000 I don't like it.
00:16:29.000 Totally agree.
00:16:29.000 What do you mean by that?
00:16:32.000 I'm Irish, I'm not white.
00:16:33.000 What I mean is, there's a bit of a double cross and triple cross when it comes to saying who's white.
00:16:39.000 Barack Obama was white.
00:16:42.000 What I mean is, you know, in Europe, let's say for example, nobody calls themselves white.
00:16:50.000 You're from Spain, you're from Romania, you're from Italy, you're from the UK, you're Irish, whatever the case may be.
00:16:58.000 In America, we've kind of been the driving force of creating a unified white identity that's an amalgamation of a bunch of European clans that used to oppress and kill each other, and that framework of history gets completely lost on young people.
00:17:14.000 Still do, for sure.
00:17:16.000 Russia and Ukraine.
00:17:18.000 Exactly, yeah.
00:17:18.000 Well, the Russians aren't even considered white and modern.
00:17:21.000 They're Slavs.
00:17:23.000 Yeah, Slavics are people of color apparently.
00:17:25.000 They are people of color.
00:17:26.000 Like our friend Luke.
00:17:28.000 But it just shows you that the history is something that's lost on many people and its premise.
00:17:36.000 Real quick, as you mentioned your problem with the concept of white, I agree.
00:17:41.000 Luke Rydkowski has blonde hair and blue eyes, but he's Slavic so they say he's a person of color and I'm just like, alright, you lost me dude.
00:17:47.000 No, it's completely absurd.
00:17:49.000 I've said this before, the idea of just like one wholesale white identity erases the different ethnic groups that actually fall under that umbrella.
00:17:57.000 And it's interesting how that definition has changed over time.
00:18:00.000 Historically in this country, it was basically a label that was used to exclude Catholics.
00:18:04.000 It was all of the people who had white skin but were from Catholic cultures who were considered non-white.
00:18:09.000 So the Irish, the Polish, the Italians.
00:18:12.000 And now today, Irish people are considered white, but Irish people weren't considered white until being white meant you had to apologize for being white all the time.
00:18:18.000 Well, so this is actually the left's argument.
00:18:21.000 That's what it is.
00:18:22.000 Their argument is that white changes.
00:18:24.000 That Italian people weren't considered white.
00:18:26.000 Therefore, whiteness today doesn't really mean the color of your skin.
00:18:30.000 It means, like, dominant social structure.
00:18:33.000 Well, you know, the Washington Post said that I'm a far-right white nationalist.
00:18:36.000 Now they're gonna start calling black people...
00:18:38.000 Seriously, they're gonna start calling black people who are America first.
00:18:41.000 Larry Elder!
00:18:42.000 Candace Owens!
00:18:42.000 Clarence Thomas!
00:18:47.000 Dave Chappelle's skit has come to life.
00:18:49.000 Clayton, was it Clayton Bigsby?
00:18:51.000 Bigsby, yeah, yeah.
00:18:52.000 You know, Dave, you're a prophet.
00:18:54.000 How is this real life?
00:18:56.000 It's almost like he manifested it.
00:18:58.000 He made this skit thinking like this, I'll make something so crazy it'll never work.
00:19:01.000 You know the fascinating thing about that Clayton Bigsby segment was, it showed that it was about culture and ideas more than race.
00:19:07.000 That in his bit, the point being made was that the white supremacists were like, he's such a good speaker and his ideas are so beneficial to us.
00:19:15.000 That's right!
00:19:15.000 We gotta keep him around.
00:19:17.000 And then there was the scene where he hears the rap music and it's three white guys and
00:19:21.000 then he calls them a racial slur and they liked it because they were trying to be black.
00:19:26.000 That's right, they're like, cool!
00:19:28.000 The point was interesting, it was about culture, not about race.
00:19:32.000 I think that actually is still true today.
00:19:35.000 But I agree with you.
00:19:36.000 you. But they want to have it both ways, right? So the left wants to talk about this idea of a white
00:19:40.000 identity and they'll claim that whiteness changes over time and it's an arbitrary construct, but
00:19:45.000 then they'll turn around and go, you have white skin, you are objectively white, therefore I don't
00:19:49.000 have to listen to your opinion. Dave Chappelle was also brilliant in that when he said he made the
00:19:53.000 joke that people in the LGBTQ like to claim that they're minorities until it's time to be white.
00:19:59.000 Right.
00:20:00.000 Like when he made the skit about the cops being called and nobody who's black and trans says, well my name is Clifford because when the cops show up they don't care which one of you is Clifford.
00:20:12.000 Basically he was saying that black skin is an immutable quality and gender identity is not immutable.
00:20:18.000 Yeah, well, so this is something I used to bring this up because one argument that was always made around 10 years ago is that like, oh, you know, the question of homosexuality and homosexual unions and LGBTQ rights is like the racial struggle of our day.
00:20:32.000 It's the civil rights struggle.
00:20:33.000 And that's completely absurd.
00:20:34.000 I mean, first of all, like there's no in the closet if you're black.
00:20:37.000 Right?
00:20:38.000 Like you're just black everywhere.
00:20:39.000 It's completely different.
00:20:41.000 It's completely different, but because it's understood that it's a powerful rhetorical tool because Americans care a whole lot about race.
00:20:48.000 If you want people to be sympathetic to a group of people, you say, look, what's happening to them is just like what happened to black people historically.
00:20:54.000 They mentioned that this is like the civil rights fight of our day.
00:20:57.000 They say things like, you know, Seamus, you would have been on the side of Jim Crow and the slavers.
00:21:02.000 And it's like, no, Catholics were not.
00:21:04.000 Yeah, and it's not just that.
00:21:05.000 It's that, like, we're effectively dissidents to the establishment.
00:21:09.000 We are opposing the established order.
00:21:11.000 You guys are in favor of what Walmart wants.
00:21:13.000 Right.
00:21:14.000 But it's not the civil rights fight of our day because none of it makes sense.
00:21:17.000 Like, when Larry Elder comes out and he says, here's what I think we can do for black families, and they go, you're a white supremacist.
00:21:22.000 I'm like, bro, you're a white person calling a black man a white supremacist because you don't like his politics.
00:21:27.000 It's ridiculous.
00:21:28.000 You're not fighting for civil rights.
00:21:29.000 You're just an egotist who doesn't like the fact that Your cudgel, racism, doesn't work or make sense.
00:21:37.000 Same thing with Candace Owens.
00:21:39.000 Black white supremacists.
00:21:40.000 No.
00:21:41.000 Neither.
00:21:42.000 They're neither.
00:21:43.000 That's insane.
00:21:43.000 They're just people with ideas you don't like.
00:21:46.000 Well, the people who they think are white supremacists aren't even white supremacists, let alone the black people being white supremacists.
00:21:51.000 The other interesting historical piece of this that I think paints this cultural appropriation that the LGBTQ movement is doing goes all the way back to the Black Panthers and Fred Hampton.
00:22:03.000 Fred Hampton was the original creator and founder of the Rainbow Coalition.
00:22:07.000 And it wasn't until nine years after he died that the artist from California took the rainbow icon and used it for the LGBTQ.
00:22:15.000 And what most people don't talk about when they talk Panthers or Fred Hampton or the Rainbow Coalition is that the white organization that was a part of the three organizations that made up the Rainbow Coalition were the Young Patriots.
00:22:28.000 And guess what their icon was?
00:22:29.000 The Confederate flag.
00:22:32.000 They were Southern sovereignists.
00:22:33.000 Let me ask you something.
00:22:35.000 So they decided to change the... I remember they changed the pride flag and they added a black and brown stripe.
00:22:40.000 No clue what it means.
00:22:41.000 Don't ask me.
00:22:42.000 It's for black and brown people.
00:22:44.000 No, it's not.
00:22:45.000 Well, that's what they said.
00:22:46.000 But I'm just like, if this flag is for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and trans, did they add another B to it for black?
00:22:55.000 So it's LGBTQBB.
00:22:57.000 Why are black and brown people in the LGBT flag?
00:23:00.000 Like, what's the insinuation?
00:23:01.000 Why is T in the LGBT flag?
00:23:02.000 I don't understand this stuff right now.
00:23:04.000 Well, it's also, I've said this before on the show, but it's the design is so stupid because for like the different sexual identities, they want these different colors of the rainbow to represent something abstract.
00:23:12.000 And it's like, what is the brown for?
00:23:13.000 It's like brown people.
00:23:14.000 It was the black for black people.
00:23:17.000 Why didn't they get creative colors?
00:23:19.000 Why did everyone else get?
00:23:20.000 They added a white triangle to it.
00:23:22.000 Did they really?
00:23:22.000 Yeah.
00:23:23.000 Learning that the rainbow is from the rainbow coalition, which was a multicultural thing, makes a lot more sense.
00:23:29.000 Well, the Rainbow was... Well, the Rainbow Coalition was initially... Fred Hampton, although the Black Panthers had this Marxist Leninist philosophical background, Fred Hampton was kind of an anomaly in Chicago and he had his own You know, version of the Black Panthers, you could say, and that was the Rainbow Coalition in which he kind of reoriented the Black Panthers focus on the working class.
00:23:55.000 And he said that despite the racial issues that do exist in America, there is a greater predation happening on the working class economically.
00:24:03.000 That was the whole motif of the Rainbow Coalition was the working, the unity of working class whites, blacks, and Latinos.
00:24:10.000 So each color in the original pride flag, like, represented some idea.
00:24:14.000 And I think they actually had magic in there.
00:24:16.000 And then they were like, we should, yeah, we should get rid of the magic from this flag, if that makes sense.
00:24:19.000 And then, um, I don't understand.
00:24:21.000 The only thing I don't understand is how, like, is there a committee that decides when the flag should be changed?
00:24:25.000 Because one day people were just like, hey, we added black and brown.
00:24:28.000 And then everyone started making these, these flags with a black and brown stripe.
00:24:31.000 Then they were like, okay, actually we're going to put the trans triangle in the side.
00:24:35.000 We're gonna put the black and brown in the triangle instead.
00:24:37.000 And then someone was like, we should put a yellow triangle in there too and a purple circle.
00:24:41.000 Now all of a sudden those flags are flying everywhere, but like who decided that would be the flag?
00:24:46.000 You know what I mean? It's like, did you start making it?
00:24:48.000 What is it going to look like in two years?
00:24:50.000 Well, the joke is that the the the trans triangle is pushing the rainbow out
00:24:54.000 Because it's it's gradually taking up more and more space All right, I got to give a shout out.
00:25:00.000 We're going to keep the focus on, I guess, the racial politics of the day, because we have more from Colbert and AOC.
00:25:05.000 And I'm sorry, you know, there's a lot of important things we can talk about, but making fun of AOC is fun.
00:25:09.000 It's fun.
00:25:10.000 And look, I try not to be overtly just like, haha, let's mock her for the sake of mocking her.
00:25:16.000 Yo, she went on Stephen Colbert's show to millions of people, strung together a bunch of history words that made no sense with a straight face.
00:25:26.000 And I'm just, it's laughably absurd that she would be asked if she would be president after saying something so nonsensical.
00:25:32.000 But you know, Seamus pointed out, it's a Chad move to go on TV and just be like, yeah, you know, Abraham Lincoln?
00:25:39.000 He was a Capricorn.
00:25:41.000 And, you know, Winston Churchill?
00:25:43.000 They were cousins.
00:25:44.000 Oh wow, yeah, that's crazy.
00:25:45.000 Separate, and you're, it's like making, like, are you sure?
00:25:47.000 Stephen Colbert's like, will you be my president?
00:25:50.000 Wow, I didn't know that.
00:25:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:25:51.000 Joan of Arc?
00:25:52.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:25:53.000 That's Lincoln's mom.
00:25:54.000 Let me play you this clip.
00:25:56.000 No, Joan of Arc was Noah's wife.
00:25:57.000 Haven't you seen Noah's wife?
00:25:58.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:25:59.000 Let me play this clip for you because it's going to make you laugh.
00:26:02.000 So Colbert basically answers a ton of questions for AOC on her behalf, and then she says this.
00:26:07.000 What action would you like to see the Congress take?
00:26:09.000 Well, I think history really informs the law.
00:26:12.000 Do you turn this up?
00:26:13.000 Does it inform you?
00:26:14.000 Let me start over.
00:26:16.000 Can you up and big in the volume?
00:26:19.000 Well, I think history really informs a lot.
00:26:23.000 And it gives us lessons here.
00:26:25.000 Because this is not the first time that this has happened.
00:26:28.000 In the 1800s, the Supreme Court was taken over by the Confederate South and was starting to rule in ways that limited Abraham Lincoln, for example.
00:26:39.000 I thought she was gonna say he packed the court.
00:26:40.000 Yo, she just strung a bunch of words together!
00:26:43.000 I thought she was gonna say he packed the court.
00:26:55.000 Yo, she just strung a bunch of words together.
00:26:58.000 Alright, let me break it down for you everybody.
00:27:00.000 The Supreme Court was not taken over by the Confederacy because the Confederacy was not
00:27:03.000 a part of the Union.
00:27:05.000 They did not rule in ways that impeded Abraham Lincoln because Abraham Lincoln became president after secession.
00:27:10.000 Dred Scott was, this is one thing she got right, a ruling that said citizenship was not for descendants, for people of African descent, but Dred Scott happened four years before Abraham Lincoln became president, and Abraham Lincoln did not issue the Emancipation Proclamation in response to Dred Scott.
00:27:29.000 The Emancipation Proclamation was issued two years after he became president, six years after Dred Scott, and has nothing to do with citizenship at all.
00:27:39.000 It was the 14th Amendment that came about after the Civil War that answered the question of citizenship.
00:27:45.000 Yo, AOC went on Colbert and just said a bunch of Civil War-era words at the same time with confidence!
00:27:53.000 I gotta admit, Seamus, you're right.
00:27:54.000 It's Chad.
00:27:55.000 Mega Chad.
00:27:56.000 She's like, when Abraham Lincoln first signed Roe v. Wade into law, it was to free women from slavery.
00:28:04.000 Oh my gosh.
00:28:05.000 Because the Confederates had invaded the Supreme Court and Abraham Lincoln had no choice but to build an ark and take two of each animal.
00:28:12.000 What the heck is going on?
00:28:13.000 Yeah, what I think she meant was before the Civil War, the South had people that were becoming Supreme Court justices, and they were like leaning towards the Southern states and their beliefs.
00:28:27.000 And then when she said, but then and then they challenged Abraham Lincoln, what she meant was they challenged the ideas that Abraham Lincoln came to embody later.
00:28:36.000 Uh, but she just messed it all up.
00:28:37.000 I mean, if that's what she meant, which is the only thing I can imagine she meant.
00:28:41.000 She's just wrong.
00:28:42.000 You can imagine anything you want.
00:28:44.000 What she said was a string of 1860s related words that didn't actually fit together.
00:28:51.000 That was written by AI.
00:28:53.000 That was written by AI.
00:28:55.000 She wrote Roe v. Wade's Civil War, and then it strung that together.
00:28:59.000 But I'm so impressed with the way she delivered it with the utmost confidence.
00:29:02.000 Yeah, that's pretty sad.
00:29:04.000 And she started off with history in forms.
00:29:07.000 She's letting everyone know history in forms and then gives a bunch of like strange history.
00:29:12.000 I was watching this and I'm like, the Confederacy had invaded the Supreme Court and were impeding Lincoln?
00:29:19.000 I was like, how were they impeding Lincoln?
00:29:20.000 He wasn't even president.
00:29:22.000 Even if her point was that Southern sympathetic justices were on the court, They could not have in any way impeded Abraham Lincoln because he wasn't even president until after several states had already seceded and said that they were no longer part of the union.
00:29:39.000 And there was a question before he was even president as to whether there would be military intervention to stop secession.
00:29:43.000 Now granted, fair point, Abraham Lincoln won the election and then they were like, all right, that's it, we're out.
00:29:49.000 And then several months later, several states secede, and then Lincoln becomes president.
00:29:53.000 He's like, I don't recognize any of this.
00:29:55.000 And things started to escalate from there.
00:29:57.000 But it had nothing to do with the Supreme Court.
00:29:58.000 Granted, he did try to go after a justice.
00:30:01.000 It's just, when I heard this and she was like, Dred Scott said that, you know, black people weren't citizens.
00:30:07.000 So Abraham Lincoln, what did he do?
00:30:08.000 He issued the Emancipation Proclamation.
00:30:10.000 I'm like, those two things are unrelated to each other.
00:30:12.000 When Judge Dred Scott decides... Judge Dred...
00:30:18.000 These people offend me.
00:30:20.000 These are the black bourgeoisie elite that are more interested in diversity, equity, and inclusion, faux politics, than they are the American people.
00:30:30.000 And later in this clip, I think she said something along the lines when they ask her about running for president.
00:30:34.000 I'm interested in helping the American people.
00:30:38.000 No, she's not.
00:30:39.000 I mean, she's a complete puppet.
00:30:40.000 She's a prop.
00:30:41.000 She's an actress.
00:30:43.000 And she doesn't need to know history because the entire mainstream media apparatus is her backstop.
00:30:50.000 I'll tell you what she is.
00:30:51.000 You guys gotta watch the new Beavis and Butt-head.
00:30:53.000 Has anybody here seen the new Beavis and Butt-head?
00:30:55.000 Just a clip.
00:30:56.000 Everybody's sharing the white privilege clip, but I got a minor, minor spoiler for you guys.
00:31:01.000 It's not a story spoiler.
00:31:03.000 It's kind of, but I have to say it.
00:31:05.000 Many of you may have seen it, but there's a point at which Biebs and Butt-head for some reason can't see.
00:31:10.000 And so they're just like waving their arms around with their eyes pointing in the wrong directions, both of them.
00:31:14.000 That's AOC.
00:31:16.000 It's not a puppet.
00:31:17.000 It's that she like was sitting in a room one day and someone was like, dude, like Dred Scott was like really bad because the US government, like these Supreme Court people were like, you're not a citizen.
00:31:26.000 Yo, the Supreme Court's illegitimate.
00:31:28.000 They've been illegitimate.
00:31:29.000 And she's like, yeah.
00:31:30.000 And then someone's like, but bro, that Emancipation Proclamation, right?
00:31:33.000 And she goes, yeah.
00:31:34.000 And then she sits on a couch and she goes, well, Treadscott and the Emancipation... It's like some stoner dude just said a bunch of random stuff.
00:31:40.000 It's... No one... Look, if she was a puppet, she'd have been given a cue card that would have said something more coherent.
00:31:47.000 You sit here.
00:31:48.000 You take her seat.
00:31:49.000 You explain Dred Scott.
00:31:51.000 You explain Civil War.
00:31:53.000 I don't know.
00:31:54.000 I tend to slightly disagree.
00:31:55.000 I think the new impetus towards societal control, psychological control, is to see if they can get people like AOC, who are conscious and know full well what they're doing, to vote for them still.
00:32:12.000 That's my interpretation.
00:32:13.000 And I don't know about her.
00:32:15.000 I don't know about AOC.
00:32:17.000 But I know that some of these people, such as Pelosi, Elizabeth Warren, maybe some of the elders in the Democrat party or in the establishment, are fully aware of the lies that they're telling.
00:32:27.000 You're right.
00:32:28.000 You know what I was realizing?
00:32:30.000 You ever see those scammer emails from like a Nigerian prince?
00:32:34.000 People always make fun of them because the grammar's really bad.
00:32:37.000 That's on purpose.
00:32:38.000 No, for real.
00:32:39.000 So people assume if the scammers are doing a bad job because they're not speaking proper English.
00:32:46.000 The reason they do that is because they don't want to waste time on smart people.
00:32:50.000 AOC is saying dumb things here on purpose to make sure that smart people don't waste their time even talking about what she's doing or engaging her seriously, but all of the dumb people will fall for it.
00:33:02.000 So these old people will get an email and it'll be like, I'm a Nigerian prince, send me a check for $2,000.
00:33:07.000 There's typos in it.
00:33:09.000 It makes no sense.
00:33:10.000 A person of moderate intelligence says, this makes no sense.
00:33:13.000 Exit out.
00:33:13.000 But if they sent a really well thought out message, a smart person is going to be like, I'm not sending you any money.
00:33:19.000 It's the stupid people they got to go after.
00:33:21.000 So they want to filter out the smart people.
00:33:23.000 And slowly but surely make people dumber and dumber so that the pool is bigger.
00:33:27.000 Yeah, how many people do you think now are like following this?
00:33:30.000 Because Colbert gets about 2 million viewers, mostly not in the key demographic, but you know, many.
00:33:36.000 How many people do you think sat down today and they were like, well, you know, with Dred Scott, Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation.
00:33:43.000 So Biden should make a declaration too.
00:33:46.000 And then how many people do you think are just going to mindlessly repeat the gobbledygook nonsense she just said?
00:33:51.000 Way too many.
00:33:53.000 Way too many.
00:33:54.000 Well, I mean, if only we had some kind of disinformation board, you know?
00:33:57.000 If only we had fact-checkers who actually cared about what our politicians said.
00:34:01.000 I wonder if PolitiFact mentioned any of this stuff.
00:34:05.000 Every now and again, she will get fact-checked.
00:34:09.000 Keep talking, I'm looking.
00:34:12.000 I'm looking because I'm curious to see what they'll have to say, but... I mean, obviously this is not some minor blunder.
00:34:16.000 I don't think they even did it.
00:34:19.000 Look, I don't even think they actually even fact-checked her.
00:34:22.000 Look at this, the last thing they have is from May 9th.
00:34:24.000 Thanks, PolitiFact!
00:34:25.000 She just went on Colbert and said a whole bunch of nonsense that took me five minutes to debunk.
00:34:29.000 First of all, not even five minutes.
00:34:31.000 Two million people.
00:34:33.000 Oh, wow.
00:34:34.000 Two million people per night.
00:34:35.000 I stay corrected.
00:34:36.000 I guess he does get views.
00:34:37.000 So he gets a decent... It's mostly not in the key demo, but he does get a decent key demo viewership.
00:34:42.000 So, first of all, it is a little bit unfair because I've been reading a lot about the Civil War, so I immediately knew these things made no sense.
00:34:48.000 No, it's not unfair that you know facts that she's wrong about.
00:34:50.000 No, no, no.
00:34:51.000 I'm saying, like, I immediately caught it.
00:34:54.000 Maybe the average person would not, but journalists, if they actually cared... I'm not talking about journalists.
00:34:59.000 I'm talking about regular people.
00:35:01.000 It's unfair for me to be critical of a regular person who didn't know that and is repeating it to their friends because they trust her.
00:35:07.000 But journalists should be scrutinizing all of the politicians the same.
00:35:11.000 They don't.
00:35:12.000 Also, I haven't read about the Civil War since middle school, but the claim that the South, the Confederacy, had infiltrated the Supreme Court, that's literally not how the Civil War worked.
00:35:22.000 They seceded before it was added.
00:35:25.000 The Confederacy.
00:35:25.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:35:26.000 So it's not possible.
00:35:27.000 Well, it's fair to say that there were Southern sympathetic justices.
00:35:30.000 Yeah, but that's not the Confederacy stopping Abe Lincoln with the Supreme Court.
00:35:33.000 Right, she takes like this tiny morsel of what may be factual, the perception that the Supreme Court was siding in ways that was more favorable to the South in certain instances, like Dred Scott, but then she turns it into the Confederacy had taken over the Supreme Court and was impeding Abraham Lincoln with rulings like Dred Scott, so he had to issue the Emancipation Proclamation, is just psychotic garbage nonsense.
00:35:55.000 It doesn't make any sense, yeah.
00:35:57.000 And I want to say, I think, you know, it's funny to me to watch AOC talk because she actually is the example of the true systemic injustice done on the American people.
00:36:08.000 The real systemic injustice is to lower the bar of intelligence of your leaders and have you follow them because you just don't know any better.
00:36:19.000 It's like a popularity contest.
00:36:21.000 I mean, that's what voting is.
00:36:22.000 from a variety of ways, and then give you a puppet leader like AOC
00:36:27.000 that can in no way properly represent you in governance or anything else for that matter,
00:36:32.000 that's real systemic injustice.
00:36:34.000 And she gets to run around with the motif of systemic injustice as the hallmark of her platform.
00:36:39.000 That's a double cross and a triple cross for the ages.
00:36:41.000 It's like a popularity contest.
00:36:43.000 I mean, that's what voting is.
00:36:45.000 But do you think that we shouldn't have voting?
00:36:47.000 No, we definitely should have voting.
00:36:49.000 But I think what's been done to the school systems in this country, or education in this country,
00:36:53.000 or communities just in general, was not done, was not organic.
00:37:02.000 It was intentionally done.
00:37:03.000 It was systematically designed.
00:37:06.000 We like a dumb populist.
00:37:08.000 And that's why I call myself a populist, politically.
00:37:11.000 I'm an America-first Christian sovereignist, actually, you could say, but I'm a populist.
00:37:18.000 But, you know, we do have a populist right now that's grossly undereducated and misinformed.
00:37:24.000 So it makes it very hard for them to cast informed votes in our political system, which is an egregious level of moral hazard that comes from institutions becoming corrupted.
00:37:36.000 And in the West, we do place a premium on the individual.
00:37:39.000 But culture does have an impact on the individual.
00:37:43.000 And we have to understand both things happen simultaneously.
00:37:46.000 But when the establishment gets as corrupt as it's become now, you get 81 million people voting for a man who shouldn't be allowed to drive a car.
00:37:56.000 Yeah, I think corporations becoming legally people has severely corrupted our capitalist institution to the point where now they're making, corporations are making political statements and that you can't sue them, you can't destroy the people, sue them into oblivion, the owners, they just declare it bankrupt.
00:38:12.000 So nobody fact-checked what she said.
00:38:14.000 You're pissed about that?
00:38:17.000 Well, the point I'm making here is, Any conservative politician who even says anything slightly wrong, like Ron DeSantis, was fact-checked because... I can't remember exactly what he was talking about, but he said something slightly imprecise.
00:38:29.000 And they're like, FALSE!
00:38:30.000 FALSE!
00:38:30.000 FALSE!
00:38:30.000 We got him!
00:38:31.000 We got him!
00:38:31.000 We got him, everybody, and they're clapping.
00:38:33.000 AOC goes on primetime television with millions of people, strings together random words, and everyone's like, I'm okay with that.
00:38:39.000 Yeah, you made a good point about AOC and I think the word is almost controlled opposition in a sense, right?
00:38:45.000 She's supposed to be the outsider candidate, but she really does She does present everything that the establishment would like for people to believe I think a huge part of the problem and I've got on my soapbox about this a number of times on the show but we have a culture which basically places instant gratification above everything else and even in really intimate important ways and So we've completely saturated our society with pornography and people eat gross fatty foods all the time.
00:39:11.000 And basically the idea is you shouldn't do things in line with their purposes.
00:39:15.000 You should do things in line with what brings you the most pleasure.
00:39:18.000 And it trains people to constantly take the path of least resistance.
00:39:22.000 And when people take the path of least resistance, they're much easier to herd.
00:39:25.000 It's much easier to get people to obey you when they're going to go along with what's easiest, right?
00:39:30.000 Before I lose my temper.
00:39:31.000 Oh boy.
00:39:32.000 I need you to clarify what you meant by gross and fatty foods Okay, so basically and I don't mean to imply that there's such a thing as anything that's less healthy than something else, right?
00:39:41.000 Everyone's healthy all the time.
00:39:43.000 We're all equally healthy.
00:39:44.000 All foods are equally good.
00:39:45.000 That cake right there This cake is super healthy and super good for me.
00:39:49.000 So do you mean gross fatty as one thing, or do you mean gross, comma, fatty?
00:39:53.000 Gross, comma, fatty.
00:39:54.000 Well, it's both, right?
00:39:55.000 No, no, no.
00:39:56.000 Avocados are fatty and they're good for you.
00:39:57.000 Okay, no, no, okay.
00:39:58.000 I've been doing keto, you take it back!
00:40:00.000 Fat can be very good for you.
00:40:01.000 I'm talking like the kind of stuff you get at McDonald's.
00:40:03.000 That's my joke.
00:40:04.000 It's fried, it's sugary, it's salty.
00:40:06.000 And it's okay to have sugary foods every now and again, but if every meal you eat is this gross stuff that's gonna weigh you down and destroy your brain, It, it, again, it trains you towards doing something not in line with what makes sense either for the occasion or for what you're supposed to be eating.
00:40:24.000 Um, it, it trains you just to pursue pleasure.
00:40:27.000 And so when other people, and one of the things that is pleasing to us is to fit in with the crowd.
00:40:34.000 So when other people stand up and start promoting bad ideas, you're not going to listen to them.
00:40:40.000 This is an argument I've heard from the left.
00:40:42.000 They talk about how poor people are overweight because they have worse foods and because garbage food is cheaper.
00:40:48.000 And that's not necessarily true, but it's somewhat true.
00:40:52.000 And so I was talking to a lefty friend, and here's how they explained it, and I think it's actually a decent point, but it needs to be fact-checked.
00:40:57.000 Norman Borlaug was this famous scientist who figured a way to increase crop yield so that your typical plant produced way more, like so wheat would produce like four times the yield.
00:41:08.000 All of a sudden, there's way more starch and sugars available for people, but the nutritional density stayed the same.
00:41:14.000 That meant that poor people were buying the same kind of food at the same price, but there was like half the amount of folate or thiamine or whatever in it, so they'd have to buy even more.
00:41:25.000 So what happens is, in order to get the same level of nutritional density, they have to eat a ton of this starchy food and sugary and fatty food and they gain a bunch of weight from it.
00:41:34.000 I actually, uh, that makes sense to me.
00:41:36.000 I'm like, why is it that poor people are overweight?
00:41:38.000 And they're like, well, the food they eat is bad.
00:41:39.000 And I'm like, bro, you can buy tomatoes, lettuce, and avocado for the same price as a Big Mac meal or whatever.
00:41:43.000 And then you really, you think about it and it's like, when they're buying grains and breads and stuff, the nutritional density being lower means they're, they're struggling.
00:41:50.000 They're eating a lot more of the same stuff.
00:41:52.000 So it's, it's like a, it's like a half true because I do think people could make better choices, but it still is not easy for people who don't know why what they're eating has become bad for them.
00:42:00.000 Well, there's also this weird thing where we're obsessed with finding new things to turn corn into.
00:42:05.000 Yeah, right?
00:42:05.000 We're like, what is this food?
00:42:06.000 Like, maybe we could make it out of corn instead.
00:42:09.000 Yeah.
00:42:09.000 It's like we have plastic and it's polluting the world.
00:42:11.000 What if we made corn into plastic?
00:42:15.000 Actually a good idea.
00:42:16.000 Corn subsidies.
00:42:17.000 Yeah.
00:42:17.000 It's like, are there other ways to do it?
00:42:18.000 We have a society that's going back to earth worshipping and child sacrifices.
00:42:24.000 Well, actually, I disagree.
00:42:25.000 Which brings me to the next story we have from Interactive Polls on Twitter.
00:42:31.000 Generic congressional ballot trends before versus after Roe v. Wade decision.
00:42:37.000 Take a look at this.
00:42:38.000 Republicans and Democrats.
00:42:39.000 In June 21, it was Republican plus four.
00:42:43.000 On June 27, it was Republican plus five.
00:42:46.000 Republicans gained one point after SCOTUS overturned Roe v. Wade.
00:42:50.000 That's technically not true.
00:42:52.000 Democrats lost a point after the Roe v. Wade decision.
00:42:56.000 So that is interesting.
00:42:57.000 Why is it that Republicans were like, I'm cool with that.
00:43:00.000 And Democrats were like, we're mad at Democrats over this.
00:43:03.000 That's the progressive left pulling the centrist moderate Democrats over in the left field.
00:43:10.000 I saw that a lot.
00:43:11.000 I didn't realize until I started watching, well I didn't start watching per se, but I watched the Young Turks about a month ago when the whole Roe v. Wade thing was first breaking out, when the document got leaked.
00:43:22.000 And Anna Kasparian, what's her name?
00:43:24.000 Kasparian, yeah.
00:43:25.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:43:25.000 Me and her got into a huge Twitter back and forth.
00:43:28.000 And when I watched it, I realized that the left pundits were talking less about Republicans or Trumpers, and they were talking more about the discontentment they had with Joe Biden and the establishment Democrats.
00:43:43.000 And that's just a way for them to pull them over into left field.
00:43:46.000 And I think when I watch Joe Biden talk now, I can see that he's not so much speaking against the right as he's trying to appease the far left.
00:43:54.000 Yeah.
00:43:55.000 Yeah.
00:43:55.000 Well, Joe Biden is weird, right?
00:43:57.000 Because for so long he's adopted these far left positions and he's said things about how we need to like affirm children, which is just another way of saying that you should be able to push them through gender transitions, that kind of thing.
00:44:07.000 He's also extremely radically pro-abortion.
00:44:10.000 He wants to repeal the Hyde Amendment, which prevents federal funding from going towards abortions.
00:44:16.000 And then when the polling data starts to make it clear that these positions are unpopular, he comes out at the State of the Union and says, defund the police.
00:44:23.000 No, man, I got to defend the police.
00:44:25.000 And talking about how we need to secure the border and basically taking Trump's platform.
00:44:29.000 So the man, he doesn't stand for anything, right?
00:44:32.000 And that's why he falls for everything.
00:44:35.000 Like falling off the stairs more than once.
00:44:37.000 And off of a bike that wasn't moving.
00:44:40.000 Well, his foot got caught in the clip.
00:44:43.000 He trips.
00:44:43.000 So, I'll give him that one.
00:44:45.000 You trip easier when you're at that age.
00:44:47.000 So, what happened with the bike is that he has pedal clips, and when he stopped, he took his left foot out, and then he leaned right as he was trying to pull his right foot out, but he didn't get it out, and so he fell over.
00:45:00.000 It happens to people, it's more likely to happen to you if you're old, but it wasn't like he was just standing there and then just fell down.
00:45:05.000 You know what I mean?
00:45:07.000 Yeah, I just think I'd like to see a little more proficiency in bicycle riding from the man leading the free world.
00:45:13.000 And walking upstairs.
00:45:13.000 You're supposed to never forget how to ride a bike, but I guess dementia's another story.
00:45:18.000 That's brutal.
00:45:20.000 I think it's fair to say the dude fell down, but I want to point out his foot got stuck in a bike pedal.
00:45:25.000 Give him his credit.
00:45:25.000 He surrendered to the American military and the Taliban.
00:45:28.000 That was worse.
00:45:30.000 It's not like he was riding his bike and then just went, and fell over.
00:45:34.000 No, no, he was standing, but that's also why people are joking about it, because he was like standing still when he fell over.
00:45:39.000 Yeah, he should have leaned on his left foot and pulled his right foot out.
00:45:41.000 Or had some sort of cognizance to not lean into it as he started to fall.
00:45:45.000 But he didn't have his card that said you pull your left foot out.
00:45:49.000 No one told him to take his foot out of the pedal!
00:45:51.000 I think you made a good point, Royce, that the Democratic Party is kind of turning on itself.
00:45:55.000 And you see that in the Colbert interview.
00:45:57.000 Like, they've just completely dismissed Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
00:45:59.000 There's not even mention of those people.
00:46:01.000 They've agreed they're useless.
00:46:03.000 They're not going to run in 2024.
00:46:04.000 It's hilarious.
00:46:06.000 Go ahead.
00:46:07.000 Biden, they're all sitting around a table and they're like, so who's running in 2024?
00:46:11.000 And Biden goes, oh, I'm going to run for re-election.
00:46:13.000 And they go, yeah, yeah.
00:46:14.000 So who's running in 2024?
00:46:16.000 He's just sitting there like he's not in the room.
00:46:18.000 You know what I mean?
00:46:19.000 I think these two were always the cutouts.
00:46:22.000 Biden and Kamala?
00:46:23.000 Yeah.
00:46:24.000 I think they were always transitory cutouts from the beginning.
00:46:27.000 Sacrificial candidates.
00:46:28.000 Absolutely.
00:46:29.000 I mean, if you just look at their records, look at how easy it would be to dislike them over the course of their administration.
00:46:38.000 The Democratic Party is casting upon Joe Biden all of their sins so that he's sacrificed as a candidate and they can bring someone else in to fix the problem.
00:46:47.000 Why would that be far-fetched for people?
00:46:48.000 Like, this is what troubles me, and we talked about this a little bit last time.
00:46:52.000 Do we think that George Soros or Klaus Schwab or these international governing bodies and these eclectic metropolitan omnisexuals Don't think four years and eight years ahead.
00:47:07.000 Like is that really tough for us to grasp?
00:47:09.000 It is because most people live in this sort of radical materialist everyday lifestyle where they do eat these fatty foods and they do play on their video games and they do, you know, get the immediate instant gratification from their social media likes or whatever.
00:47:23.000 So it's hard for them to imagine a group of people who are effective and thinking that far ahead because they don't do it.
00:47:29.000 But these people have proved that they are willing to do it and they're very effective at doing it.
00:47:33.000 I think that Joe Biden was always a cutout from the very beginning.
00:47:38.000 I think that's why they undermined Bernie in the Democratic election when Joe Biden ran.
00:47:46.000 I think when he resigned in 1988 when he was running against George Bush Sr.
00:47:51.000 and resigned because he was found out to be a plagiarist, the entire industry gave up on him and basically turned him into a cardboard cutout.
00:47:58.000 They realized he's nothing more than a cutout at this point.
00:48:00.000 Maybe we'll use him at some point.
00:48:02.000 He came out in 2008 to run against Obama.
00:48:04.000 They put him up there as the token old white businessman.
00:48:07.000 Yeah, he was the establishment guy, right, because Obama was too new and radical, at least in his rhetoric.
00:48:11.000 At least that's what people thought.
00:48:12.000 Yeah, Uncle Joe.
00:48:12.000 Like AOC.
00:48:13.000 Yeah, just like AOC.
00:48:14.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:48:15.000 But Obama, right, he was like the fringe, radical, anti-establishment guy, and people were worried, and so he goes with the most pro-establishment cardboard cutout that he could find.
00:48:22.000 You're right.
00:48:23.000 I do want to point out, I pulled up the RealClearPolitics average of polls, because that one poll was, I think that was just Iowa, right?
00:48:30.000 I don't remember.
00:48:30.000 So in the RealClearPolitics average, after the ruling, Republicans went up about a half point.
00:48:35.000 Democrats actually made a fairly decent gain.
00:48:37.000 In aggregate, they went from 41.3 to 4.
00:48:39.000 So they went up one point.
00:48:41.000 Republicans went up a half point.
00:48:42.000 Republicans made a gain on this one.
00:48:44.000 Democrats made a gain on this one.
00:48:45.000 So Democrats closed the gap a little bit.
00:48:48.000 Republicans still have a 2.5 point advantage in the generic ballot, which is just apocalyptic.
00:48:55.000 When Democrats are leading by five points, they lose seats.
00:48:58.000 So anything short of a five point advantage from Democrats, that's breakeven.
00:49:03.000 Right now, it's just everyday looking apocalyptic for Democrats.
00:49:06.000 It's hard to tell.
00:49:06.000 Things have changed so much about who's a Democrat and who's a Republican now that it's the people that like care enough to virtue signal that they will fill out one of these polls.
00:49:15.000 They tend to be Democrats in the past, but now... But it's an aggregate poll.
00:49:18.000 So this is combining all the different polls.
00:49:21.000 So that's what's interesting about this.
00:49:22.000 I don't take just a single poll where like Fox News has to ask somebody.
00:49:26.000 No, this is YouGov, Politico, NPR, PBS, Trafalgar, Rasmussen, USA Today, Fox News, and Quinnipiac.
00:49:31.000 All of those different polls with different methodologies and they average it out, that's your best indicator.
00:49:36.000 But did they include Real Patriot polls from realpatriot.blogspot.lolling.com?
00:49:42.000 Realpatriot.infowarrior.website.
00:49:47.000 It's like 97% say Donald Trump is the best, 3% say Donald Trump is pretty good.
00:49:53.000 I got an email from Trump, and I bet most of you have gotten this too, and it was like, please fill out this poll.
00:50:00.000 How well do you think Donald Trump is doing?
00:50:02.000 Really?
00:50:02.000 Like it said he's doing fantastic.
00:50:04.000 He's doing great.
00:50:05.000 He's doing pretty good.
00:50:06.000 He's doing all right.
00:50:07.000 And I'm like, it's only positive.
00:50:09.000 The only options were like, he's doing good in some way.
00:50:12.000 Gotta love it.
00:50:13.000 Yeah, I know, that's Trump, man.
00:50:14.000 That's what Trump is.
00:50:15.000 My fear right now in politics is that, again, to reiterate the ability for people to look ahead, the establishment to look ahead, that a lot of these Republicans are not really Republicans.
00:50:26.000 Or they're not really conservatives.
00:50:28.000 I think that a lot of the Republicans, I think it's understood that the political, the politics in America are going to go in ebbs and flows, and that right now the Republicans are on the rise, and they're going to do everything they can within the Republican establishment to put people forward who may even say that they're America first, but really aren't.
00:50:51.000 And I'm seeing that in my own primary, but I see it as I look even across some of the people that Donald Trump endorsed, like Oz.
00:50:58.000 Right.
00:50:58.000 These people, these people don't really fundamentally understand the ideas of America or the foundational values of America.
00:51:05.000 Um, and, and if they come to power, even if it's a Republican held, uh, you know, house Senate presidency, uh, America could still be on a losing track with Republicans in office because the Republicans have been in on it.
00:51:20.000 Oh, yeah.
00:51:20.000 Well, we sort of joked about this a while ago when we were first going through this polling data, which suggests that there will likely be Russian interference.
00:51:28.000 But when we were looking through this polling data, I was just kind of joking about the fact that, yeah, no, and the Republicans might win in a landslide, so they can not do anything.
00:51:37.000 They can just keep not doing anything.
00:51:38.000 Sit on their hands and just say, slow down there, Democrats.
00:51:41.000 You're going too fast.
00:51:43.000 To be fair, though, you know, I do rag on Mitch McConnell.
00:51:45.000 He did basically get this Roe v. Wade thing.
00:51:48.000 It's true.
00:51:48.000 We were talking about that with Will.
00:51:50.000 My issue, though, is like partly the reason I was thinking about this, like, you know, I'm still ragging on Mitch.
00:51:55.000 For Republicans, he actually got this for them.
00:51:58.000 For me, that wasn't a big issue for me.
00:51:59.000 The issue was like, you know, I'm more libertarian.
00:52:02.000 I'm not conservative.
00:52:03.000 So for me, Roe v. Wade, I'm rather dispassionate on.
00:52:06.000 It goes back to the states.
00:52:07.000 I'm kind of like, okay, that's federal government rescinding authority.
00:52:10.000 There's probably a lot of good things in that.
00:52:12.000 My answer to Democrats on the left is they should be filing lawsuits at the state level on the same grounds at the federal level and then win in the states.
00:52:19.000 What I want to see is Republicans win on policy grounds that they just don't engage on.
00:52:22.000 They haven't engaged at all on the social media censorship.
00:52:25.000 They just spin around in circles.
00:52:27.000 They're caving on gun rights.
00:52:29.000 For me, I just don't see anything.
00:52:30.000 Auditing the Federal Reserve.
00:52:31.000 I'll take it.
00:52:32.000 You let the economy flounder like this?
00:52:34.000 That's the ultimate failure of a politician right now is to let the economy flounder.
00:52:38.000 So you're saying that you think...
00:52:40.000 Because the Roe v. Wade issue is, well, the Roe v. Wade issue was illegitimate in its inception.
00:52:47.000 That's number one.
00:52:47.000 So for Mitch McConnell to back this isn't necessarily as extreme as it seems due to the public, you know, the public's view of it now.
00:52:58.000 But constitutionally, it's not really an extreme position as, say, him being more America first on trade or other policies.
00:53:06.000 Mitch McConnell played the judge game, and Republicans played the judge game and ignored the cultural issues.
00:53:13.000 The cultural issues have a big impact on me, so I'm biased.
00:53:16.000 For conservatives, who are pro-life, they were ragging on Mitch McConnell and Republican leadership over the culture war issues, but then when they get this victory on Roe v. Wade, they're like, oh, okay, what they did worked for us.
00:53:26.000 For me, Roe v. Wade wasn't one of my issues.
00:53:29.000 So, I'm like, gun rights, free speech, you know, schools and all that stuff, what are you doing on these issues that I'm worried about?
00:53:36.000 So I acknowledge, that's my bias.
00:53:37.000 Mitch McConnell was very effective in getting the Roe v. Wade decision for conservatives.
00:53:41.000 That's a fact.
00:53:42.000 Or the recent gun decision too, right?
00:53:43.000 The recent gun decision, absolutely.
00:53:45.000 It's a fair point, yeah.
00:53:46.000 It makes it through the courts.
00:53:47.000 It doesn't go as far as I'd like it to.
00:53:50.000 But I'm like, okay, those are decent victories.
00:53:52.000 I do think, and so credit where credit is due, as much as I'm still not a big fan of the Republicans, because policy-wise they do very little, the judges did get some victories.
00:54:00.000 But if the Republicans aren't adequately engaged in cultural issues, and if the Republican leadership won't go after Joe Biden, they won't go after the corruption, That's where I'm very concerned.
00:54:12.000 Congratulations, you won in the courts.
00:54:14.000 Pro-lifers got their thing.
00:54:15.000 Pro-gun people got their thing.
00:54:17.000 What about Joe Biden being corrupt?
00:54:19.000 What about the corruption from the establishment that went after Donald Trump?
00:54:21.000 Why didn't the Republicans do more to stop what was happening in this system?
00:54:27.000 I focus on that.
00:54:28.000 They're in on it.
00:54:28.000 They're in on it.
00:54:29.000 Oh, yeah.
00:54:30.000 They're in on it.
00:54:31.000 That's why.
00:54:31.000 Oh, I mean, you look at Pennsylvania, the Republican establishment.
00:54:34.000 You look at Robbie Starbuck.
00:54:35.000 The Republican establishment does not like Trump, MAGA, and the populist Republicans.
00:54:40.000 They're okay with it.
00:54:43.000 The two sides of the coin is that the left has traded, and this is a problem for most American people, but you can see it very well in the political dichotomy.
00:54:53.000 The left has traded their freedom for materialism, and the right, or the Republicans, have traded their freedom for security.
00:55:01.000 Both versions are an expansion of government.
00:55:04.000 Most people have become okay with the idea that their American citizenship depends on the expansion of government.
00:55:10.000 And Mitch McConnell is all for the expansion of government.
00:55:12.000 This is the funny thing when AOC and Pelosi say that the Supreme Court's extremist or illegitimate.
00:55:18.000 And I see these memes where they're like, the Supreme Court has stripped the rights away.
00:55:22.000 And I'm like, actually, they didn't.
00:55:23.000 The Supreme Court said the federal government doesn't have this authority.
00:55:27.000 It's actually anti-fascism.
00:55:29.000 Like, if you claim you're Antifa, And you don't like authoritarianism and all that stuff?
00:55:33.000 The federal government being like, we hereby rescind this power.
00:55:36.000 Should be a good thing.
00:55:37.000 But oh no, that meant states now have control over these situations, and they don't like what actual decentralization means.
00:55:45.000 So when these anti-Fudan people and leftists come out, and they're saying things like, we shouldn't have these authoritarian systems, they're actually saying we should.
00:55:55.000 Because if you were to get rid of the federal government and decentralize everything, then all of a sudden smaller jurisdictions take authority in how they want to run things.
00:56:03.000 And all of a sudden you'll find...
00:56:06.000 When you get rid of the centralized authority, you're going to see white-only towns.
00:56:10.000 You're going to see anti-LGBTQ towns.
00:56:12.000 You're going to see no more Roe v. Wade in red states.
00:56:15.000 What they really are saying is they want the federal government to enforce their ideology on everyone.
00:56:19.000 Their own politics, that's right.
00:56:21.000 That's exactly right.
00:56:22.000 And when you look at the Democratic Party platform and what they're pushing for with respect to abortion, I don't think it's unfair to say that the actual party platform more or less suggests that for any child, Any unborn child in any part of the country to have any kind of legal protection is a travesty.
00:56:40.000 For there to be any unborn child anywhere in the country that can't be killed is a miscarriage of justice from their perspective.
00:56:46.000 It's evil.
00:56:47.000 It's just evil.
00:56:48.000 It's just... I'm sorry, man.
00:56:50.000 It's just so weird.
00:56:51.000 And it's rooted... I can only say it's rooted in ignorance.
00:56:55.000 People in blue states are unaffected by the Roe v. Wade decision.
00:56:58.000 In fact, the decision likely will cause Democratic politicians to expand abortion access in blue states.
00:57:04.000 So what they're basically saying is, people in places where I don't live should be allowed to get access to a procedure most of those people don't want.
00:57:11.000 Exactly.
00:57:12.000 Because, again, for whatever reason, any innocent, faultless, unborn child having any legal protection is abhorrent to them.
00:57:21.000 They can't stand it.
00:57:22.000 They can't tolerate it.
00:57:23.000 So here's the problem with the Republicans.
00:57:26.000 We talked about Mitch McConnell.
00:57:27.000 He got some major policy victories, and the Republican leadership did.
00:57:32.000 And I'll tell you, one of the issues is... I totally lost my train of thought.
00:57:36.000 What were we just talking about?
00:57:37.000 Roe v. Wade.
00:57:39.000 Yeah, I lost what I was going to say, I forgot.
00:57:41.000 That's because I keep thinking about... No, I was going to say that this Roe v. Wade one is not even a judgment call in my book.
00:57:48.000 Agreed.
00:57:49.000 The morality of it is very clear.
00:57:51.000 Okay, I remember what I was going to say.
00:57:52.000 Go.
00:57:52.000 I got it back, I got it back.
00:57:53.000 Go, because I'm going to remember mine.
00:57:54.000 Because I'm reading these polls that I'm talking about.
00:57:56.000 Okay, I forgot again, go ahead.
00:57:57.000 Oh, no!
00:57:58.000 No, no, no, no, I'm kidding.
00:57:59.000 You're on the spot, bro.
00:58:00.000 I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
00:58:01.000 We were talking about the success of the Republicans.
00:58:04.000 Republicans are running on moderate policy.
00:58:07.000 Mitch McConnell may have got a victory, but I think this should... I should make this statement.
00:58:11.000 The fact that you, Seamus, think it was a victory that half the country is allowed to murder babies shows the problem.
00:58:17.000 I don't think that that's a vic... I think it's a... I do think it's a victory to step in the right direction, but it is absolutely not going far enough.
00:58:23.000 It's not murder, though.
00:58:24.000 It's not murder.
00:58:25.000 It is, yeah.
00:58:26.000 Okay, hold on.
00:58:27.000 Ian, stop.
00:58:28.000 This is not my point.
00:58:29.000 My point is, if conservatives do believe that, regardless of your opinion, Ian, they've accepted
00:58:33.000 that half the country will be allowed to do it, and they're like, yay, we won this one.
00:58:38.000 Instead, a real victory would have been the Supreme Court coming out and being like, all
00:58:42.000 human life has constitutional protections, whether they're in the womb or out.
00:58:45.000 Therefore, taking the life is a violation of the Constitution.
00:58:49.000 That would have been a much better victory.
00:58:50.000 Agreed.
00:58:51.000 If a human has a right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, then the actual conservative position would be for the Supreme Court to come out and say, A human unborn baby is still a human, and it would be a violation of the law and the Constitution to end its life or to grant the right to do so.
00:59:08.000 Ergo, the Supreme Court would have said nationwide, this actually makes more sense.
00:59:14.000 The Constitution granting protection to women to get abortions makes less sense than the Constitution granting rights to a human being not to be killed.
00:59:22.000 However, The conservative court didn't even rule that.
00:59:25.000 They said, leave us out of it.
00:59:26.000 And the left is saying, the Republicans are extremists.
00:59:29.000 No, the left are the extremists.
00:59:31.000 The Republicans are happy to accept a moderate victory.
00:59:35.000 Meaning, we'll take what we can get in our red states and you do your thing.
00:59:38.000 Whereas the left says, we want total domination nationwide.
00:59:42.000 And that's what I was saying to begin with, that Roe v. Wade and its inception was illegitimate.
00:59:47.000 And that they're making it seem like it's being overturned as a far-right policy position, when really it's the lukewarm, moderate position.
00:59:56.000 Agreed.
00:59:57.000 And so therefore, Mitch McConnell actually shouldn't get the same credit that That he may get in our view, but the point that I think needs to be driven home about abortion is that when a society loses the sanctity of life, you can't have a precept of human rights and civil rights legitimately.
01:00:19.000 Totally agree.
01:00:19.000 Our whole society was based on slaughter of the native population.
01:00:23.000 They're all humans.
01:00:24.000 They were all humans, but they didn't act like they were.
01:00:26.000 True.
01:00:26.000 And that was Protestant Christians taking the Lord's name in vain.
01:00:33.000 It's not an indictment of God and it's not an indictment of America.
01:00:36.000 It's an indictment of those few men who chose to use the Lord's name in that way at that time.
01:00:42.000 But it still doesn't change the universal truth about life.
01:00:45.000 Whether it be Native, whether it be American unborn today, or whether it be blacks during slavery, the precept of human rights and civil rights has to be dependent on a sanctity of life.
01:00:55.000 If you don't have the sanctity of life, it doesn't only allow you to justify killing a human fetus, which is an infowar of biblical proportions, but it also allows you to kill faceless people by double-tap drone strikes in Afghanistan.
01:01:10.000 Yeah, so yeah, so I want to I want to Jump on that first. I want to respond to what Tim said
01:01:15.000 because I think you make a great point I got a response man. Yeah, I'm gonna respond. Well, hold
01:01:19.000 on. Okay, so so I Don't I don't think that's entirely fair
01:01:23.000 I agree with your assessment completely that the conservative pro-life position is and should be that abortion must be illegal nationwide.
01:01:29.000 I still think it's perfectly reasonable to say, thank goodness that it can be restricted in some places now.
01:01:35.000 We haven't gone all the way with it, this is not the end goal.
01:01:37.000 I understand that.
01:01:39.000 My point is just, Republicans consistently fight for the moderate form, the compromise.
01:01:45.000 Yeah, and I would agree with that.
01:01:46.000 I think that leaving it up to the states is ultimately the moderate position, and I don't think it makes a whole lot of sense.
01:01:53.000 I have a question for you and for conservatives.
01:01:57.000 When do you think... At what point does a person gain constitutional rights?
01:02:03.000 I would say the moment of fertilization.
01:02:06.000 Yeah, you're a human being at that point.
01:02:07.000 What do you think?
01:02:09.000 Yeah, I would say the moment of conception.
01:02:11.000 What do you think, Ian?
01:02:12.000 When they get a birth certificate?
01:02:14.000 Why?
01:02:14.000 Because that's American citizens of American human rights.
01:02:17.000 Slaves didn't have birth certificates.
01:02:20.000 Yeah, they didn't have those same human rights.
01:02:21.000 They were granted it under the 14th Amendment.
01:02:23.000 Well, eventually they got them.
01:02:24.000 After the 14th Amendment?
01:02:26.000 Like, there's no amendment that says that an unborn fetus has human rights.
01:02:29.000 But, I don't know if that's relevant.
01:02:32.000 So you're asking me what, I think, morally it should be, not legally?
01:02:34.000 Yeah, he's asking for your, like, uh... Well, no, no, no, it's fine, it's fine.
01:02:38.000 I accept your answer.
01:02:39.000 When they get a birth certificate.
01:02:40.000 When they're born, basically.
01:02:41.000 So my question is just, like, why when they're born?
01:02:43.000 You know, like, why is that the case?
01:02:45.000 Because, um... Yeah, why when they're born?
01:02:48.000 That's when they start contributing to society.
01:02:50.000 I don't think so.
01:02:52.000 Yeah, that's a riot season.
01:02:54.000 The problem with it, with that viewpoint, is it's a radical materialist mentality.
01:03:02.000 And what you're basically saying is that your only value as a human being is your contribution to society.
01:03:10.000 And that is a predicate for the fourth industrial revolution, whether people want to consider it or not.
01:03:17.000 This whole abortion argument is really a predicate for the fourth industrial revolution to be able to other human beings based on their level of productivity and justify killing them by food, whether it be big pharma, maybe a pandemic, whatever the case, nuclear war, health, freedom, climate, whatever it is.
01:03:37.000 The ability to judge and rule somebody based on what they contribute to society solely as the anchor of their human rights or the fundamental claim of human rights is just about as anti-human as you can get.
01:03:49.000 I don't know, because what if they start tapping people's brains with neural net, reading minds, doing pre-thought crime, and they do it to babies in the womb, and they're like, that baby had an illegal thought when it was two months old, it's now arrested.
01:04:00.000 There'll be no neural net if I'm in Congress.
01:04:02.000 That's a heresy to begin with.
01:04:04.000 Let me pull up this story we have from TimCast.com.
01:04:08.000 Anna Navarro doubles down on comments about aborting special needs babies.
01:04:12.000 She went on to say that she says, quote, I have a brother who's 57 and has the mental and motor skills of a one-year-old, and I know what that means financially, emotionally, physically for a family.
01:04:22.000 I have a step-granddaughter who was born with Down syndrome, and you know what?
01:04:25.000 It's very difficult in Florida to get services.
01:04:27.000 It is not as easy as it sounds on paper, and I've got another.
01:04:29.000 I've got a step-grandson who is very autistic.
01:04:31.000 This was her example for why there needs to be abortion.
01:04:34.000 What?
01:04:34.000 Effectively saying that all of these people should be dead.
01:04:37.000 All people who have disabilities.
01:04:39.000 That's a psychotic thing to say.
01:04:40.000 So, Ian, just a moment ago you mentioned that, you know, when a person is born is when they gain constitutional rights.
01:04:47.000 My question is, does the 57-year-old man with the motor skills of a one-year-old have constitutional rights?
01:04:53.000 Yeah.
01:04:54.000 You think he does?
01:04:55.000 Yeah.
01:04:55.000 What about a baby born with no brain?
01:04:57.000 Yeah.
01:04:58.000 Does it have constitutional rights?
01:04:59.000 It still has a name and a birth certificate.
01:05:01.000 But a baby With a full functioning brain that functions more so than a born baby that has no brain The unborn like so let's say that says two women and they and they're both sitting there both equally as pregnant as each other and One baby is born
01:05:18.000 And the other was not, but they were fertilized the exact same time.
01:05:22.000 The one still in the womb has a fully functioning brain, and the one outside of the womb has no brain, just a cerebellum, so it's basic motor functions.
01:05:29.000 You think the one without a brain does have constitutional rights, and the one in the womb does not.
01:05:33.000 Yes.
01:05:33.000 So, then killing the one in the womb is fine.
01:05:36.000 It's more ethical than killing the living human, yeah.
01:05:40.000 I accept your answer, but I don't understand it.
01:05:42.000 No, I do.
01:05:44.000 And I don't say this to be disparaging at all, because you're my boy.
01:05:47.000 I like you.
01:05:49.000 Here it comes.
01:05:50.000 No, I do.
01:05:50.000 I like you.
01:05:52.000 But this is that whole Sapiens, Noah, Yuval, Harari school of thought, is that reality can only be measured by suffering.
01:06:03.000 Right.
01:06:04.000 And like, that's the ultimate form of measurement of reality.
01:06:09.000 And so the suffering argument is whatever we can do to eliminate suffering, to have to confront suffering, to have to confront anxiety and despair, whatever we can do to eliminate having to go through that process that is painful, we'll do that.
01:06:26.000 And then we can justify doing it to kids because most likely if they're born into some patriarchal white supremacy society, then they'll suffer.
01:06:34.000 And my point is that, who do we think actually ends up dead in those scenarios from these white, yuppie, snowflake, milquetoast, uniparty, globalist, establishment politicians?
01:06:47.000 Black people.
01:06:48.000 Brown people.
01:06:49.000 The numbers suggest that.
01:06:50.000 I have a thought experiment for you, Ian.
01:06:54.000 So, alright, let's see right here.
01:06:56.000 You've got two women.
01:06:57.000 They both had a baby conceived in them at the exact same moments.
01:07:02.000 One baby has no brain and is born, and the other baby has a brain, totally functioning, completely average, unborn.
01:07:09.000 And you said that you think the one that was born but doesn't have a brain has more constitutional rights, or does have constitutional rights, and the one unborn doesn't.
01:07:16.000 Right?
01:07:16.000 Yeah, I think... I don't know what the law is about, like, a brain-dead person being born if the parent has the right to kill it, like, pull it off the machine.
01:07:22.000 I'm not asking that.
01:07:23.000 I'm just saying you believe that the baby that was born even with no brain has constitutional rights and the unborn has no rights.
01:07:28.000 It's like one's born prematurely with no brain?
01:07:30.000 No, they're both nine months gestation, but one was born and the other wasn't born yet.
01:07:34.000 Cause there's, there's variation.
01:07:35.000 So you're saying give the rights to the born.
01:07:37.000 Okay.
01:07:37.000 So thought experiment, a mad scientist comes in the room and goes, and he fires a growth ray at the other one.
01:07:43.000 Now she's 70 feet tall, but the baby stayed the same size.
01:07:46.000 Her womb is now a giant open room and they bring in a TV and a table and the baby's still there.
01:07:51.000 And then someone raises the baby, but it's still in the womb.
01:07:54.000 The baby learns to read and write.
01:07:55.000 Does it still, does it have constitutional rights yet?
01:07:58.000 No, not by modern day law.
01:07:59.000 But by your, by your opinion.
01:08:01.000 Should it?
01:08:01.000 With growth rays?
01:08:02.000 Um, no, we're going to have to rewrite the law.
01:08:05.000 My point is, I'm trying to understand why you don't think that baby has any rights.
01:08:11.000 If the womb became as big as a skyscraper due to a mad scientist, an alien blast them.
01:08:15.000 It's like, ah, she turns into a building and the baby is still technically in the womb, but it's massive now.
01:08:20.000 And people walk inside and they're teaching it math and reading and it's, and it's aging and eating food.
01:08:25.000 You, it has no rights.
01:08:28.000 Still in the womb.
01:08:29.000 I mean, this is interesting.
01:08:30.000 But the womb is bigger.
01:08:30.000 Because if you can neural net a baby and track its thoughts in the womb, we're going to have a, it'll be a revolution of what a baby is.
01:08:37.000 Is it a human?
01:08:37.000 Is it alive?
01:08:38.000 Does it have rights?
01:08:38.000 Yeah, it will at that point, because we're able to communicate with it.
01:08:41.000 But if you can't communicate with it, it doesn't have, for all intents and purposes, rights yet.
01:08:45.000 I don't know, man.
01:08:45.000 Sometimes we have difficulty communicating, but I think we're both people.
01:08:49.000 I guess the point I'm trying to make just is, I do not understand the logic behind why a baby at nine months With a thin layer of flesh between its face and everyone else does not have any rights.
01:09:03.000 Because it's attached to the mom.
01:09:04.000 But the baby that was born is still attached to the mom, too.
01:09:07.000 Well, yeah, I guess, but it's about to be removed.
01:09:09.000 No, I didn't say it was.
01:09:10.000 We've decided once it's born it's cutting the cord.
01:09:12.000 No, they don't cut the cord.
01:09:13.000 It stays.
01:09:13.000 It has no rights?
01:09:15.000 Well, eventually you gotta cut the cord.
01:09:16.000 Sure, sure, sure, but in that moment it has no rights?
01:09:18.000 Yeah, I don't know what the process is.
01:09:19.000 Could you abort a baby that was born as long as you don't cut the umbilical cord?
01:09:22.000 God, in some places, but I don't think that would be legal.
01:09:24.000 I just don't understand why a baby at nine months with a fully functioning brain, that can understand music, that can kick and moves around, and is literally no different physically than a baby at the exact same time of gestation, but is outside the womb.
01:09:35.000 They're identical in every way!
01:09:37.000 I don't understand where the separation of rights happens.
01:09:39.000 Let's forget the rights for a second, because I don't like the rights argument.
01:09:42.000 Because the left doesn't believe in the Constitution.
01:09:45.000 Good point.
01:09:46.000 First of all, they believe the Constitution is always in flux, and our Constitution is amendable in some ways, but they believe in a completely relativistic view of the Constitution and even claim that the Constitution itself is illegitimate in its inception due to slavery, the natives, and white supremacy.
01:10:03.000 So I don't like the rights discussion.
01:10:04.000 Let's just make it more basic.
01:10:07.000 Who are the most vulnerable people in the world?
01:10:11.000 Children.
01:10:11.000 Young children.
01:10:12.000 Unborn children.
01:10:12.000 Babies.
01:10:13.000 What scenario in a movie makes us the most angry?
01:10:21.000 When a dog gets hit by a car.
01:10:26.000 For the liberal yuppie vegan cokeheads, for sure.
01:10:31.000 But for me, when I'm watching a movie, the characters that we despise the most, traditionally, are characters that kill a woman who is pregnant or has her children with her in some gruesome fashion.
01:10:46.000 And there's a reason for that.
01:10:47.000 And people don't want to give it its proper credit, but Abrahamic faith changed the trajectory of our society away from a barbaric, child-sacrificing culture.
01:10:57.000 That's the story of Abraham.
01:10:59.000 He goes up into the mountain, and before Abraham, child sacrifice was a common practice in barbaric pagan societies.
01:11:06.000 But how else are you going to get the grain to grow?
01:11:10.000 But that's exactly what they're doing.
01:11:11.000 They're sacrificing babies for economic growth.
01:11:13.000 That's their whole argument.
01:11:14.000 There's not enough resources for them.
01:11:15.000 Oh, it's like The Harvest.
01:11:16.000 The Harvest?
01:11:17.000 What was that?
01:11:17.000 What was that?
01:11:18.000 It was a book.
01:11:19.000 I think I know what you're talking about.
01:11:20.000 Yeah, they would like the springtime and then they would like sacrifice the young woman or whatever.
01:11:24.000 But my point is that this whole abortion thing is not about rights and it's not about Republicans and Democrats.
01:11:31.000 This is an information war waged on women.
01:11:34.000 This is a spiritual war waged on women and to attack men and the significance of legacy and lineage and procreation, which is one of the most miraculous gifts that any species has, human or not.
01:11:49.000 But ours is certainly special, given how special humans have proven themselves to be, scientifically speaking, even take away the faith and the divinity.
01:11:57.000 But this is not about any of the politics really.
01:12:01.000 This is an attack on women to try and convince women that their sole political power is anchored on their ability to kill their children.
01:12:12.000 And there is nothing more anti-human, anti-American, and satanic than to tell women all of your political standing should be dependent on this one right to kill the most important thing in function you can do as a woman.
01:12:30.000 And their argument is That the primary function of being a woman shouldn't be bearing a child.
01:12:35.000 That there can be no women's rights without abortion rights.
01:12:41.000 And it's strange to me that people don't see how anti-human that really is.
01:12:49.000 Having a child is one of the most amazing things that ever happened to me.
01:12:54.000 I have four, but most women say that about childbearing.
01:12:58.000 And for us to have reverse psychology convinced an entire generation of women that their rights, their political power is anchored on the right to kill an unborn child is completely absurd.
01:13:10.000 It's a bit unfair.
01:13:12.000 You know, the real issue is that everyone knows humans die if they don't have sex, like eating.
01:13:16.000 So the women have no choice.
01:13:17.000 They have no choice but to have sex.
01:13:19.000 Without protection, and then get pregnant.
01:13:20.000 Is that it?
01:13:21.000 Yeah.
01:13:21.000 Well, right, they talk about like... So if they're going to succeed in the workplace, they need to be able to terminate their pregnancies.
01:13:25.000 That's right.
01:13:26.000 Or they can, you know, in all seriousness, just use a condom, an IUD, birth control.
01:13:30.000 Or what about?
01:13:31.000 Abstain.
01:13:31.000 Or abstain?
01:13:32.000 Well, yeah.
01:13:32.000 There's many choices.
01:13:34.000 Why is the application of science so relative, right?
01:13:37.000 Because you never hear in these arguments about abortion or, you know, sex or, you know, family planning.
01:13:44.000 Don't we have reasonable methods to measure ovulation?
01:13:48.000 We do, yep, we do.
01:13:49.000 I mean, not down to a science, and there are exceptions, but the ovulation scheduling is pretty thorough and pretty sure-fire in most cases, and that's never even mentioned that we should use science in that way.
01:14:03.000 They go immediately to, let's kill unborn children, not let's use the advancement of science to regulate or track ovulation.
01:14:11.000 I've got a potential hypothesis here.
01:14:13.000 Why is it that the left that is more likely to abort their kids, less likely to even get pregnant, more likely to get vasectomies, more likely to get their tubes tied, why are they so adamant about there being abortion access in red states?
01:14:29.000 Why are they so adamant about teaching LGBTQ issues to children?
01:14:33.000 I think these people recognize a very important thing.
01:14:36.000 They don't have kids.
01:14:38.000 They need Republicans to abort their babies.
01:14:41.000 Otherwise, in 20 years, the future is conservative.
01:14:44.000 If the left is more likely to be LGBTQIA2 plus BB or whatever it is, those people are less likely to have children.
01:14:53.000 If they are already more likely to get abortions, if they do get pregnant, or more likely to use prophylactics and get vasectomies, they're going to have substantially less kids.
01:15:01.000 Over time, conservatives having kids means this country will be conservative.
01:15:07.000 That's why they need to advocate for red states to allow abortion, so they can try and stop Republicans from having kids.
01:15:13.000 And they can advocate for young conservative women to, don't ruin your life.
01:15:17.000 You've got your whole future ahead of you.
01:15:19.000 Have a child later.
01:15:19.000 Get the abortion now.
01:15:21.000 That was an info award that the Catholic Church is somewhat responsible for too.
01:15:25.000 Christianity.
01:15:26.000 This whole child out of wedlock thing.
01:15:28.000 I don't like it.
01:15:29.000 I'm a Christian.
01:15:30.000 I'm a Catholic.
01:15:31.000 I think that the entire cultural motif of shunning or bastardizing child, children that were born out of wedlock was a predicate for abortion.
01:15:43.000 Well, so I definitely think that we should not be shaming pregnancy, we should be shaming adultery.
01:15:48.000 For sure.
01:15:49.000 The adultery was the part that was wrong.
01:15:50.000 The getting pregnant part is not wrong, right?
01:15:52.000 But culturally... No, I hear you.
01:15:54.000 I hear what you're saying.
01:15:55.000 Humans may, you know... That's how you knew if someone was doing adultery.
01:15:58.000 Yes.
01:15:58.000 They looked at the child born out of wedlock as another.
01:16:02.000 Exactly.
01:16:02.000 They didn't separate the sin of the parents from the divinity of the childbirth.
01:16:07.000 Very sad.
01:16:08.000 And that's how you have an avalanche of cultural decay and misinformation that ends up being, well, you know, and even conservatives, Christians, Catholics, you know, well, you had that child out of wedlock anyway, go ahead and abort the kid.
01:16:23.000 That's very sad.
01:16:25.000 I think in the next 30 years this country is going to be Christian conservative.
01:16:29.000 So it's an example I've given before but for the context I'll say it again.
01:16:33.000 In the early 2000s a survey was done and found that liberals were having I think 1.54 kids or something like that on average and conservatives were having 2.01.
01:16:42.000 That meant that conservatives were at replacement levels and liberals weren't.
01:16:46.000 20 years later, we get this poll that shows, or about 20 years later, 18 years, that Gen Z is slightly more conservative than millennials.
01:16:55.000 But only slightly, they're very, very similar.
01:16:57.000 And a lot of people assumed that meant that Gen Z was based, that they were waking up, that the culture war message was getting to them, but that's not reality.
01:17:04.000 The reality is conservatives just had more kids, ergo, more conservative Gen Z. That's it, simple math.
01:17:10.000 So what we see from the left is an attempt to indoctrinate kids because leftists don't have children, they have yours.
01:17:15.000 Now we're seeing them attempt to get red states to enact an abortion, abortion rights, because they want Republicans to abort their kids.
01:17:24.000 Otherwise, what you get?
01:17:25.000 Right now, today, the left is substantially more likely to not have kids.
01:17:29.000 Like, I was looking at a graph and it's like, it's plummeted.
01:17:32.000 But conservatives are actually fairly stable, though it has gone down.
01:17:36.000 Just give it 18 more years.
01:17:37.000 18 years from today, it's gonna be 2040.
01:17:40.000 We're all gonna still be, we're gonna be middle-aged.
01:17:45.000 And we're going to be seeing a substantially more conservative country.
01:17:49.000 Yeah, but I don't think it's going to be Christian conservative.
01:17:51.000 Yeah, it will.
01:17:52.000 I doubt it, dude.
01:17:53.000 Ancient religions are on their way out.
01:17:55.000 Hand that rocks the cradle rules the world, bud.
01:17:56.000 That's right.
01:17:57.000 Yeah, bro.
01:17:58.000 Yeah, but since nonsense also fades away.
01:18:00.000 Okay, maybe Muslim.
01:18:01.000 It doesn't have to be.
01:18:02.000 Well, it's been here for 2,000 years.
01:18:04.000 I know, it's time for something new, man.
01:18:05.000 How long have your ideas been here?
01:18:06.000 Well, nonsense fades away.
01:18:07.000 43 years.
01:18:08.000 Nonsense fades away.
01:18:09.000 It's been 2,000 years.
01:18:10.000 What's going on?
01:18:11.000 It got rewritten like five times.
01:18:13.000 When?
01:18:13.000 By who?
01:18:13.000 And what did they change?
01:18:14.000 The Cathars, the Lollards, the King Henry.
01:18:15.000 The Byzantines, dude.
01:18:15.000 When by who and what did they change?
01:18:18.000 The Cathars, the Lollards, the King Henry.
01:18:20.000 I don't know what they changed.
01:18:22.000 They said, the Byzantines, dude.
01:18:24.000 Ian is proving Seamus' point.
01:18:26.000 You've just literally proven him correct.
01:18:31.000 About what statement?
01:18:32.000 He didn't even say a statement.
01:18:33.000 He says it persists and nonsense fades away.
01:18:35.000 But it also became the Orthodox Church.
01:18:37.000 It's obvious that the Romans are the patriarchy, like the Roman Catholic Church was created to suppress and control people.
01:18:43.000 Like you were saying about marriage, it demonizes children born out of wedlock.
01:18:47.000 You've proved Seamus' point.
01:18:49.000 He wasn't making a point, we were just having a conversation.
01:18:51.000 What?
01:18:52.000 He made a point.
01:18:53.000 I said, because Christians are having children more than the left, the future will be Christian conservative.
01:18:58.000 Yeah, but that's a 1 plus 1 equals 2 argument.
01:19:01.000 That's not how humans work.
01:19:02.000 It's not a math equation.
01:19:03.000 Seamus said the hand that cradle rocks the world, and you disagreed and said it's fading away.
01:19:08.000 Then you went on to say that despite all of the things that happened throughout history, The religion persisted and evolved and was changed and all of that, whether it's true or not, you're arguing that instead of fading out and dying, it was reinvigorated and re-embraced and expanded to the point where it's bigger than it's ever been throughout history.
01:19:25.000 Because there was universal truth beneath the sins.
01:19:28.000 There was a truth that persisted throughout the ages beneath the sins, and in the same way, the sins of the Roman Empire are not an indictment of God, the sins of our founding fathers are not an indictment of America.
01:19:42.000 There is a difference between ideas and the application of those ideas.
01:19:46.000 And then this is something that even conservatives have had trouble trying to articulate to people who don't necessarily believe in God.
01:19:53.000 Many people who don't believe in God don't necessarily believe in a traditional view of America or American citizenship.
01:19:58.000 And it is a great info war.
01:20:00.000 Slavery is not an indictment of America's foundational values.
01:20:04.000 In fact, the Constitution was used to justify freeing the slaves.
01:20:08.000 So it actually vindicates that our Constitution and our American founding values were brilliant and were inclusive in some ways and were humane.
01:20:18.000 But the application of them in the early stages was certainly not.
01:20:21.000 But those things are an indictment of the ideas themselves and certainly not an indictment of God.
01:20:29.000 Well, I know a lot of people that call themselves Christian, that go to church, and then they get wasted.
01:20:34.000 And like, you fucking, your body's a temple, really?
01:20:37.000 Like, is that, that's the point?
01:20:39.000 You want to say that your body- It's completely true.
01:20:40.000 And that they'll just go, like, Christians don't need to worship Christ.
01:20:44.000 You don't need to worship Jesus to be a Christian.
01:20:46.000 Does it say not to drink beer in the Bible?
01:20:48.000 No, so yeah, you, you cannot drink to the point of excess.
01:20:52.000 You can't get drunk, which is to say, yeah, which is to say you can't drink to the point where you are no longer able to make good decisions.
01:20:58.000 Right.
01:20:58.000 And how insane, like, come on.
01:21:00.000 That's like the biggest hypocrite criticism of, of like modern culture.
01:21:05.000 People call themselves Christian, then they destroy themselves.
01:21:07.000 Like, come on.
01:21:07.000 Well, yeah, I mean, look, there have been hypocrites in the Christian faith throughout all of history.
01:21:12.000 Judas is one of the first bishops, right?
01:21:14.000 And he betrayed Christ.
01:21:16.000 I don't know.
01:21:16.000 That's all ancient text stuff, man.
01:21:18.000 I don't know if it's real or not.
01:21:20.000 230 to 250 million Americans are Christian.
01:21:23.000 And so, I think one important point is that while the percentage may be lower than it was before, there are still substantially more Christians in the country.
01:21:33.000 Look, I'm a Christian, and I've taught God as much as anybody who comes on here probably somewhat, but I agree with you, Ian.
01:21:42.000 My point's not even to bring up religion in the first place.
01:21:44.000 My point was that, as Seamus said, the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world.
01:21:48.000 People who identify as Christian conservatives are going to be the majority to identify.
01:21:53.000 But I agree with you when you say that a lot of people who say they're Christian don't necessarily follow the laws of the faith.
01:22:02.000 So yeah, just like there's a referendum on what it means to be American if we even want to have a country, and that is the referendum right now.
01:22:08.000 Do we want to have a country?
01:22:10.000 There's a referendum on Christianity and what it means to be Christian, what it means to be Catholic.
01:22:14.000 They're having that argument in the Vatican right now.
01:22:16.000 There is going to be an ongoing argument about I think that the ideals of Christianity are impossible to embody.
01:22:22.000 The argument about religion itself is not relevant to the point I'm trying to make.
01:22:26.000 of the beliefs themselves. It's an indictment of man's application of belief.
01:22:33.000 I think that the ideals of Christianity are impossible to embody.
01:22:37.000 I'm... the argument about religion itself is not relevant to the point I'm trying to make.
01:22:44.000 The point I'm trying to make is that Christians are having children.
01:22:48.000 Whether they truly believe in the Bible is totally immaterial.
01:22:51.000 What matters is the left ideology will die because they don't have kids.
01:22:55.000 Therefore, they argue for red states where there are more Christians to have abortion access, because that will result in more Christians having abortions, whether or not they believe in... There's gonna be some young Christian girl who's like, I don't have a baby, I'm gonna go do it.
01:23:09.000 If it's illegal, she's going to go to her parents and say, what do I do?
01:23:12.000 And they're going to say, we're going to support you.
01:23:13.000 You're going to have the baby.
01:23:14.000 This is, I think, a big reason whether they're conscious of it or not.
01:23:19.000 There are probably people on the left who realize since the 2000s, we have slowly been eroding.
01:23:25.000 The leftist movement has been eroded.
01:23:27.000 I mean, if you look at a lot of the left movements, it's always been about eradicating religion.
01:23:33.000 But they're losing because they don't have kids.
01:23:36.000 So this is why the school choice fight is so important for the Democrats.
01:23:40.000 They can't allow people to take their kids out of schools and choose where they want to go.
01:23:44.000 This is why they're freaking out over the Supreme Court decision in Maine that allows people to get public funding and choose whatever school they want, religious or otherwise.
01:23:53.000 This is why they're freaking out about a coach who prayed for himself and students decided they wanted to pray with him.
01:23:58.000 They said, no, he's leading them in prayer.
01:24:00.000 No, he was praying.
01:24:02.000 They also decided to pray.
01:24:03.000 People are allowed to speak.
01:24:04.000 You can't stop them or fire them from doing it.
01:24:06.000 They're losing.
01:24:08.000 They're not having kids.
01:24:09.000 And with the internet, Christians, Christian conservatives, or even hypocritical Christian conservatives, if they call themselves that, still are expanding, growing, and defending their values, defending their kids.
01:24:22.000 This is also why they're so freaked out about the don't say gay lie.
01:24:26.000 Because they're like, we need to indoctrinate their kids because we don't have any.
01:24:30.000 And this is why they're screaming, don't say pray.
01:24:33.000 Universal laws and in the real scary part is in my opinion.
01:24:37.000 It's a stopgap Because if the LGBTQ ism indoctrination doesn't work They're gonna be the ones who abandon the idea of democracy the fastest believe that the push for artificial intelligence and this whole automation driven transhumanism idea is the plan B, you could say.
01:25:00.000 No pun intended, it's the plan B for if the indoctrination doesn't work.
01:25:07.000 And in the automation AI world, there will be no more democracy.
01:25:10.000 And that's what they plan on doing.
01:25:11.000 And that's what you see many, many factions of our government doing right now
01:25:16.000 and going after conservatives like Steve Bannon.
01:25:18.000 It's just, we're gonna create a banana republic where the ideas of justice, democracy, freedom
01:25:23.000 are completely relative.
01:25:24.000 and we'll make them up as we go.
01:25:26.000 Yeah, it feels like we are headed towards a more conservative future if we do this right.
01:25:31.000 Things have gotten way too wacky and ready for change at a drop of a hat.
01:25:36.000 We need to conserve our values.
01:25:38.000 The reason I brought up that I don't think it'll be a Christian conservative is because I think people are bastardizing the word Christian, calling themselves Christian on paper, going and sitting in a church, repeating words, but they don't live like it.
01:25:50.000 I think you're biased.
01:25:52.000 I think you have a negative view from media depictions of what a Christian is.
01:25:57.000 You might be right about that.
01:25:58.000 Because, like, of the Christians we've had here, has any one of them have been in any way as you've described it?
01:26:04.000 Oh, everyone's, like, no one's perfect.
01:26:05.000 Yeah.
01:26:06.000 Seamus drinks, you know.
01:26:07.000 Yeah, but, like, I don't get drunk.
01:26:08.000 Sure, sure.
01:26:09.000 Being Christian isn't predicated.
01:26:10.000 And drinking is not a sin as long as you're not drinking to access or getting drunk.
01:26:13.000 Seamus, you tell me if I'm wrong, but my concept of being Christian fundamentally is Do you believe in sin or don't you?
01:26:22.000 I mean, that's one of the anchors.
01:26:23.000 And so when you say that there are Christians, people who identify as Christian, who are hypocrites, the distinction there is that they believe in sin.
01:26:32.000 And they may be sinning, but they do believe that it is a sin and that there's a metaphysical accounting that they can then be redeemed from by having faith or by asking for repentance.
01:26:42.000 And people who don't believe They don't believe in metaphysical accounting, and most of them believe in karma, which is the same thing, essentially, but some people don't believe in universal accounting at all, and that's dangerous.
01:26:56.000 I think they're obviously fake Christians.
01:26:59.000 There are people who claim to support a lot of ideas they don't support.
01:27:01.000 There's a lot of people who are like, who are woke, who say they hate racism, but then they're super racist.
01:27:06.000 There are a lot of people who claim to be Christian and you see these videos of them, you know, screaming and spitting on people.
01:27:10.000 I also think that there is a media depiction of a Christian that is just outright not true.
01:27:16.000 Of all of the religious people we've had come here, not a single one of them was as you described.
01:27:20.000 Oh, I mean, we sit with people for an hour and a half.
01:27:22.000 I don't know those people.
01:27:23.000 Sure, what do they think about when they're alone in their room at night?
01:27:26.000 Like, I don't know.
01:27:27.000 But they've not screamed at you.
01:27:30.000 You've not witnessed any of them be as you've described a Christian.
01:27:34.000 Christianity is held, it's a really weird thing.
01:27:36.000 You're supposed to be like this benevolent, angelic thing that has no sin.
01:27:40.000 That's not true.
01:27:41.000 That's not what we believe.
01:27:42.000 Or you're just guilty about betraying the Catholic Church.
01:27:46.000 You sit in front of Seamus all the time, and you say things like, this is what it's supposed to be, but you've never bothered to actually sit down with Seamus and ask him what he believes.
01:27:55.000 Well, I mean, Seamus believes that when he drinks wine and eats bread, it's literally the body of Jesus Christ.
01:28:01.000 Yeah, well, I'm not eating wine and drinking bed in that instance.
01:28:04.000 But yeah, no, I do believe in transubstantiation.
01:28:06.000 I believe in the Holy Eucharist.
01:28:08.000 I do.
01:28:10.000 But you know one thing, that's not relevant to the point I'm making.
01:28:14.000 A piece of bread is not literally a human being.
01:28:18.000 The point I'm making is that Seamus does believe that, and he is not lying about what he believes.
01:28:24.000 And you consistently depict Christians as, like, rabid... Well, you're saying that if a dad tells his kid, hey kid, this bread is literally a human body, the kid's gonna be like, I don't believe that, dad.
01:28:35.000 That's not what we're talking about.
01:28:36.000 You're saying parents are gonna have Christian kids.
01:28:38.000 That's not how it works.
01:28:39.000 When you lie to your kid and tell him something is what it's not, the kid sees through it.
01:28:43.000 That's not true.
01:28:44.000 So, Ian, there's a couple things here.
01:28:46.000 Kids are impressed upon by their parents and adopt their parents' values.
01:28:51.000 And there's a few things I want to mention, because there's something I really want to touch on here.
01:28:54.000 To be Christian, there's two tiers here, right?
01:28:57.000 You're sort of discussing hypocrisy, and hypocrisy is a real phenomenon.
01:29:00.000 But there's a difference between being someone who makes a mistake and sins, which everyone does, and Christians acknowledge that, and we call ourselves sinner.
01:29:07.000 And someone who says, I actually don't believe this is a sin.
01:29:09.000 I'm gonna do it anyway while calling myself Christians.
01:29:12.000 Now you insinuated earlier that I'm a hypocrite because I drink, even though nothing in my faith prohibits drinking, as long as you're not getting drunk.
01:29:18.000 Because you don't know anything about my religion.
01:29:20.000 You don't know what I believe because you haven't take the time to ask me, but you were willing to make an accusation about me in front of literally tens of thousands of people.
01:29:27.000 I was told by a Catholic that I'm going to hell because I don't believe Jesus is the Son of God.
01:29:31.000 Does that justify, but does that justify any of what I just said?
01:29:34.000 Well, I mean, I'm asking you about your faith.
01:29:36.000 You just told me I don't know anything about your faith.
01:29:39.000 I'm countering that.
01:29:41.000 I don't know what your drinking is like.
01:29:43.000 I've seen you get somewhat drunk.
01:29:44.000 It's not that big of a deal.
01:29:45.000 But I I think you you drink to the point where you're you're feeling a little bit like happier bubbly
01:29:50.000 But you cannot drink to the point where you're making bad decisions. I don't even cancel the point is yeah. Yeah.
01:29:55.000 Yeah I care about people that are hypocrites.
01:29:57.000 You brought it up, but you brought it up exactly to insinuate that I'm a hypocrite, but you never stop to ask me about any of this or what the faith teaches.
01:30:03.000 And so I think that's really unfair because we've known each other for a long time, and especially if there is something you think I'm hypocritical on, then you have a conversation with a person instead of waiting till you're on air to try to make an accusation.
01:30:14.000 I don't want to be personal with everyone.
01:30:17.000 Fair enough, but I think what matters most is You've known Christians who have said and done things to you that have hurt you.
01:30:24.000 And I, yeah, I think that stinks because look, Christians are human beings and we also make mistakes.
01:30:29.000 I've seen Christians insult people.
01:30:31.000 For sure, for sure.
01:30:33.000 But my point is, We don't become Christian because we believe other Christians are perfect.
01:30:39.000 We become Christian because we believe in Jesus Christ.
01:30:43.000 We believe that he's perfect.
01:30:46.000 That doesn't require believing that other people are perfect.
01:30:49.000 That doesn't require being a perfect person.
01:30:50.000 But the whole like believing that Jesus is not what makes you I gotta stop you because this conversation is not going anywhere.
01:31:02.000 The point I made was, Ian, you've asserted something about Christians that has not appeared before you out of the entire time we've done this show and had numerous Christians come on talking about their faith.
01:31:14.000 My question is, how could you believe in a general negative depiction of all Christians, or a large sum of them, or a majority of them, or a plurality, when you've not encountered any of those stereotypes in any of the Christians that we've had come here, and not just the people who've been on the show, but even people who work here?
01:31:31.000 That's what I don't understand.
01:31:32.000 I've seen, like, Christians behave cruelly.
01:31:35.000 Sure, sure.
01:31:35.000 Cruelty.
01:31:36.000 People, Christians that are lustful.
01:31:38.000 I've seen Christians that are, get angry, which is wrath, which is a sin.
01:31:43.000 So, wait, in what context, can I ask, in what context is getting angry a sin?
01:31:49.000 Wrath.
01:31:49.000 Wrath, yeah.
01:31:51.000 So, wrath does not exclude, wrath does not condemn righteous indignation.
01:31:57.000 There are things we should be angry about.
01:31:59.000 So, you basically are saying that being angry at all is sinful and makes a Christian a hypocrite, but again, you don't know what Christians believe about anger or wrath.
01:32:09.000 The point is just this.
01:32:11.000 You've made several points on several different shows about Christians generally being this hypocritical or negative thing, even though At the very least, you could argue you've actually met more Christians who are nice and do adhere to their faith than who don't.
01:32:28.000 But you still maintain the negative over the positive.
01:32:30.000 I usually have good interactions with people in general because that's what I give people when I interact with them.
01:32:34.000 I just feel like if 250 million people in this country identify as Christians, I don't think most of those people are hypocritical.
01:32:43.000 I don't really care how you identify with them.
01:32:46.000 It doesn't make you a good person.
01:32:48.000 You can say on paper, I'm a Christian.
01:32:50.000 It doesn't make you a Christian.
01:32:52.000 It doesn't make you a good person.
01:32:54.000 Not everyone who calls Lord, Lord will be saved.
01:32:56.000 But Seamus, you would agree with this.
01:32:57.000 And I think there are many Catholic theologians and devout Christians who are much, much more in alignment with their faith and their everyday life than I surely am.
01:33:08.000 That would tell you, Ian, that the decay of America or the decay of society is the failure of the church.
01:33:17.000 Yeah.
01:33:18.000 And the hypocrisy of the church and that them not being the moral shepherd that they were supposed to be in a variety of ways is partially or mostly to blame for how wayward society has gotten.
01:33:33.000 So nobody who is Again, I think what Tim is trying to say is that nobody who's really Christian, who has a well-formulated worldview on Christianity, is trying to abnegate the culpability of Christians in the wayward ways of the world at all.
01:33:52.000 I think most Christians, in fact, who are real Christians, and not just virtue signaling like the left does, will tell you, no, Christians are actually to blame for how things have gotten.
01:34:01.000 I'll put it this way.
01:34:02.000 Kind of what I'm saying is, I grew up Catholic, I went to church.
01:34:05.000 What I saw of Christians depicted on TV didn't make sense to me.
01:34:09.000 Because I did not know anybody at my church who acted that way as the media would portray them.
01:34:15.000 Ian, you've also not been to church, have you?
01:34:17.000 A few times, yeah.
01:34:18.000 When I was younger, I went to an outdoor Catholic church once.
01:34:23.000 I went to a Methodist church once.
01:34:25.000 I went to a youth group often every Sunday.
01:34:27.000 I would go for three hours.
01:34:28.000 And the people there were generally They were just mean kids and they would play basketball.
01:34:32.000 So I think that's the example of it.
01:34:34.000 I see how the left depicts Christians.
01:34:36.000 I see how Jordan Klepper in Comedy Central goes to events and finds people to caricaturize
01:34:41.000 and mock and portray negatively.
01:34:44.000 And then I think about the people I met growing up.
01:34:46.000 Then I think about how I had this moment in my life where our church actually kind of
01:34:50.000 slighted my family and my family stepped away from them, made me a bit angry and it felt
01:34:55.000 like these people were lying.
01:34:57.000 And then I met someone who wasn't Christian who talked to me about Jesus and I was like, They were just bad people!
01:35:03.000 And then I realized something as I started to travel around.
01:35:06.000 I remember being at Occupy Wall Street and seeing a conservative pro-life protest and they were all like, oh man, we're going to go there.
01:35:12.000 Be careful.
01:35:12.000 We're infiltrated.
01:35:13.000 That's what the left said.
01:35:14.000 We show up as a bunch of old ladies waving American flags and they were waving and smiling and I was like, none of these people are mean.
01:35:18.000 And then I hear people Give general negative depictions of religious people.
01:35:24.000 I'm like, I wonder if that's just a negative media portrayal stereotype.
01:35:28.000 Because if 250 million people in this country identify as Christians, certainly not 250 million people are walking around angry or hypocritical.
01:35:35.000 In fact, not even the majority or plurality of them are typically angry.
01:35:39.000 At least when you see them in person on Twitter, yeah, they've probably got that angst and anger.
01:35:43.000 But for the most part, when you go outside and touch grass, the people you're talking to, probably Christian.
01:35:47.000 Absolutely right.
01:35:48.000 Not all that mean actually kind of nice if you collapse in the middle of the street in the middle of anywhere in this
01:35:52.000 Country someone's gonna run up and try and help you for the most part in some places. They don't but what I mean to say
01:35:57.000 is regardless of the religion
01:35:59.000 I just think it's absurd to characterize and stereotype people as generally negative and hold that view of them
01:36:05.000 hypocrites because people will tell me They'll be like dude. It doesn't matter what I do
01:36:10.000 I can do whatever I want.
01:36:11.000 Cause if I believe in Jesus, he forgives me when I die.
01:36:13.000 I've never met kids growing up that were taught by their parents from the church.
01:36:17.000 Like, Oh, all, all, all my sins will be forgiven.
01:36:19.000 If I believe in Jesus, children, other like friends, high school kids and whatever.
01:36:23.000 That's part of the reason why it's a sin and that's part of the reason why it's a sin and egregious to kill a baby in the womb because because children don't have a what Aquinas did what he did for Christianity what Christianity solved was a merger between Judaism you could say And first principles of Greek and Aristotelian thought.
01:36:52.000 And the Catholic belief, the modern Catholic belief, is that the Holy Spirit doesn't exist in and of itself necessarily, that it is embodied and perfected with the human rational mind.
01:37:05.000 And that to live and to think, to have thought, to know God is actually the height and strive of Christian and Catholic belief.
01:37:13.000 And when you rob a fetus of their growth and maturity in faith, that is the ultimate sin.
01:37:20.000 You've taken the innocence of a child.
01:37:22.000 Also, the Holy Spirit does exist external, too.
01:37:25.000 Like, the Holy Spirit does exist independent of us, but yes, works through us.
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01:37:49.000 Let's read some superchats.
01:37:50.000 Grofty says, buck buck buck!
01:37:51.000 Yes!
01:37:52.000 I have good news for fans of Chicken City!
01:37:54.000 Well, it's sort of good news.
01:37:56.000 We've created an outdoor area so the chickens can get access to the mulberries.
01:38:00.000 It's a fenced off area.
01:38:01.000 It won't keep them safe at night, but during the day it keeps them corralled so they can have fresh grass and there are mulberries everywhere.
01:38:10.000 And I had to chase these dumb little things around today because they wouldn't go back inside.
01:38:15.000 So yeah, good fun.
01:38:17.000 But that's good news for the chickens.
01:38:19.000 Of which there are many.
01:38:20.000 And we're also starting Cocktown.
01:38:23.000 Yeah, we're gonna try and figure out Cocktown.
01:38:25.000 It's the roosters.
01:38:27.000 Yeah, the roosters.
01:38:28.000 What are you guys talking about?
01:38:30.000 Come on, guys.
01:38:32.000 We're talking about roosters.
01:38:35.000 You guys have dirty minds.
01:38:38.000 The roosters can't live with the girls because they'll fight.
01:38:41.000 So all of the boys, roosters, also known as cocks, need to be brought, or cockerels, to Cocktown.
01:38:48.000 Nice.
01:38:49.000 And that's Cock-C-O-C-H.
01:38:51.000 What?
01:38:52.000 Cock.
01:38:53.000 Is that how you spell cockerel?
01:38:55.000 I think it's C-O-C-K-E-R-E-L.
01:38:57.000 Yeah, cockerels.
01:38:58.000 The inner ear is the cockerel.
01:39:00.000 C-O-C-H.
01:39:01.000 Isn't that right?
01:39:02.000 I don't know.
01:39:03.000 Cochlear.
01:39:04.000 All right.
01:39:04.000 Let's see what we got.
01:39:05.000 Coke.
01:39:06.000 Mr. Slytrip says, why is abortion legal the day before birth in Colorado, but under H.R.
01:39:12.000 724, it's a federal crime to intentionally stomp a toad?
01:39:15.000 It's true, yes.
01:39:16.000 It actually is.
01:39:18.000 It's just so insane to me.
01:39:20.000 Don't stomp a toad, man.
01:39:23.000 Oh, man.
01:39:24.000 Okay, okay, okay.
01:39:27.000 Robert Knight says, as an independent voter in Colorado, I got both ballots.
01:39:30.000 The Democrat ballot had one option per position, whereas the Republican ballot had multiple.
01:39:35.000 Interesting.
01:39:38.000 All right.
01:39:38.000 Khalil Rose says, if AOC becomes president, I'm moving to Canada.
01:39:41.000 Oh wait, it sucks there too.
01:39:42.000 It's even worse there.
01:39:45.000 I don't know, man.
01:39:46.000 Luke's always talking about Tehran in Mexico.
01:39:49.000 It's the anarchic state.
01:39:50.000 It's like they got no government.
01:39:51.000 You just go there and live.
01:39:53.000 There you go.
01:39:54.000 It's one way to do it.
01:39:55.000 El Salvador, yo, they got a place called Bitcoin Beach, where a bunch of like tech entrepreneurs and Bitcoin maximalists and crypto heads are buying property in El Salvador because their economy is booming, their crime is decreasing.
01:40:09.000 This is crazy.
01:40:10.000 When they introduced Bitcoin into El Salvador, apparently they banked the whole country overnight.
01:40:15.000 Like, all of a sudden, the entire population had access to a digital financial account.
01:40:20.000 And I was told this fact check, because I don't know if it's true, that they gave everyone $30 in crypto to kickstart the Bitcoin economy.
01:40:27.000 So all of a sudden, everybody started spending money like crazy, and the economy just went boom!
01:40:31.000 Hey, cryptocurrency, man, I love it.
01:40:34.000 And that's one way to get past the Federal Reserve, huh?
01:40:38.000 All right, Storm Huffman says, Shamus, sad to see you go.
01:40:42.000 You have been critical in making me look at Catholicism in a better light.
01:40:45.000 What is your biggest criticism of the Church?
01:40:47.000 Well, thank you very much, and I really appreciate that.
01:40:50.000 That's a good question.
01:40:51.000 So, you know, I wholeheartedly believe in Catholicism and the Catholic Church.
01:40:55.000 If there's a criticism I have, it's basically just going to be with the way the people in the Church behave, the way all of us behave.
01:41:04.000 Ultimately, that's something that's known to us based on the scriptures, right?
01:41:09.000 We know that the earliest Christians, they made mistakes.
01:41:13.000 We talk about Judas, and I mentioned him as the first bishop.
01:41:16.000 Well, look at the first Pope, Peter.
01:41:17.000 I mean, he denied Christ three times before repenting, right?
01:41:21.000 And so we have to... My biggest criticism of the church is me.
01:41:28.000 If I was holier, if I was better, if I followed in Christ's footsteps more effectively, I would be meriting more graces for the world.
01:41:37.000 And I think ultimately, if you are Catholic, your biggest criticism of the church should be yourself.
01:41:41.000 WeAreChange says, is Potato Man leaving?
01:41:45.000 Potato Man indeed leaving.
01:41:46.000 I saw that and he said he can't take the heat.
01:41:48.000 Well, let me tell you something, Luke.
01:41:50.000 Alright, you and I will do a little stream of our own where we can hash some of this out without the referee, without Tim stopping us from going to town.
01:41:59.000 But yes, I am going to be leaving for a little while.
01:42:01.000 And I know you're going to miss me, Luke, which is why I think you should go to freedomtunes.com and become a member for five bucks a month.
01:42:05.000 Oh, stop.
01:42:06.000 Very important.
01:42:06.000 Yes.
01:42:06.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.
01:42:07.000 on a mission to preach the good word of freedom tunes.
01:42:10.000 Not actually the religion, he wants people to watch freedom tunes.
01:42:13.000 Alright, let's read some more.
01:42:15.000 PP Storm says a pile of rocks is smarter than AOC.
01:42:18.000 Sure, a picture of a pile of rocks is smarter than AOC.
01:42:25.000 KL Tanker says, please look into Randy Cox and the New Haven Police.
01:42:29.000 Another reason we need constitutional carry nationwide.
01:42:31.000 Man ended up paralyzed for a possession of a handgun without a permit.
01:42:35.000 Maybe more to story.
01:42:37.000 I think I saw that.
01:42:38.000 Was that the guy who was given the nickel ride?
01:42:41.000 I don't know if there's a story where a guy was sitting in the backseat of a wagon and the police slammed the brakes on so he flew forward and broke his neck and it was for illegal possession of a handgun.
01:42:52.000 And I read that story and I'm like, what's illegal about possessing a handgun?
01:42:55.000 Did he lose his right to possess it through due process?
01:42:58.000 Or did they find a guy who didn't have a permit, so they paralyzed him?
01:43:01.000 And the crazy thing is, I don't know if it's the same story, but this dude, they dragged him out.
01:43:05.000 He's like, I can't move.
01:43:06.000 And they're like, you're fine.
01:43:07.000 And they drag him out.
01:43:08.000 Yo, when you have a spinal injury, they can't move.
01:43:10.000 They're supposed to move you.
01:43:11.000 The paramedics have to come in very carefully because they can make it worse.
01:43:14.000 The cops just drag him out.
01:43:16.000 Dude, we got problems with police.
01:43:18.000 All right?
01:43:19.000 I'll shout out, in these circumstances, this stuff should not be happening.
01:43:23.000 But what do you do, I guess?
01:43:24.000 The cops are just, they don't tolerate it because people will lie and claim and like piss themselves and stuff like that.
01:43:29.000 But maybe what we need is one EMT with every arrest?
01:43:34.000 Is that what we have to do?
01:43:36.000 This guy, he's paralyzed from the chest down now.
01:43:39.000 And when I saw the story, I got really mad because Ben Crump is involved and I'm like, you've lost all credibility.
01:43:45.000 But regardless, that shouldn't happen.
01:43:47.000 Yeah, nothing.
01:43:49.000 And I said this last time, I think policing has become a byproduct of a system that that is okay with whatever level of moral decay and chaos ensues.
01:44:00.000 And then they throw it on the police.
01:44:01.000 And not only do they throw it on them, but they actually undertrain them and underfund them so that they can be the scapegoat.
01:44:08.000 So yeah, policing has become one of the most corrupt things that go on in the country.
01:44:15.000 Michael Alio says, when Republicans win this year, they should codify into law the other rights that Dems are worried will be taken away—miscegenation, contraception, etc.
01:44:23.000 Dare Dems to oppose it as we remove their fundraising talking points?
01:44:27.000 Yes.
01:44:28.000 Republicans should, first of all, codify miscegenation, which is mixed-race cohabitation and marriage, and they should be like, Democrats, you're right.
01:44:36.000 We hereby propose the bill for you.
01:44:39.000 And then Democrats will be forced to oppose it, won't they?
01:44:41.000 Or they'll sign on and have no talking point because then these things won't be taken away.
01:44:46.000 And contraception as well.
01:44:46.000 Republicans can be like, yeah, yeah, these things are fine.
01:44:50.000 What do you think?
01:44:50.000 Should the Republicans should codify right to contraception?
01:44:53.000 No, no.
01:44:54.000 You don't think so?
01:44:55.000 No, I don't think that's fundamentally a conservative thing to do.
01:44:58.000 What about miscegenation?
01:44:59.000 Because the thing is, there are a number of contraceptive methods that are abortifacients too, right?
01:45:03.000 That's true.
01:45:03.000 But miscegenation, you'd agree with?
01:45:07.000 Codifying to law the right to mix race marriages.
01:45:09.000 Oh, of course, of course.
01:45:09.000 And cohabitation.
01:45:10.000 Yeah, of course.
01:45:12.000 Take away their talking points.
01:45:13.000 Yeah, well, also the idea that, like, Republicans wanna, would want to, like, ban interracial marriage.
01:45:19.000 It's because to them, everything is racist all the time, right?
01:45:26.000 They're making memes where they're claiming Clarence Thomas is just trying to get an annulment from his wife.
01:45:31.000 That's hilarious.
01:45:31.000 That's really funny.
01:45:31.000 They're like, he's trying to annul miscegenation ruling so that his wife... It's like, just get a divorce, dude!
01:45:38.000 You know what?
01:45:38.000 I don't think abortifacients are birth control.
01:45:41.000 That doesn't... So, there are... They're not fertilization control, I should say.
01:45:46.000 Birth control is a different thing.
01:45:47.000 You want to make sure the baby isn't born, but that's kind of sickening almost.
01:45:51.000 Or fertilized or conceived, right?
01:45:52.000 But I think that there are a number of birth control methods that do have the capacity to be abortifacient.
01:46:00.000 So there's some where it's like it's not entirely clear if it's preventing conception or if it's just aborting immediately after the conception or preventing implantation, something like that.
01:46:08.000 All right, Jordan Z says, saw Catalina Loft won her primary up here in Northern Illinois.
01:46:13.000 I saw her a couple weeks ago at my town's parade.
01:46:14.000 I told her I saw her on your show.
01:46:16.000 She said you were cool lol keep up the good work.
01:46:19.000 That's cool that you won her primary.
01:46:20.000 It is a D plus 11 district.
01:46:23.000 But considering the polling, it very well may flip.
01:46:27.000 So make it happen.
01:46:29.000 Catalina, you got to go out there.
01:46:29.000 You got to knock on doors.
01:46:30.000 You got to tell everybody to vote for you.
01:46:32.000 There we go.
01:46:34.000 Matthew Valesquez says John Cena parodied Trump on SNL.
01:46:38.000 Zelensky parodied the presidency in Ukraine.
01:46:41.000 Cena Cortez 2024.
01:46:43.000 Why are they still having Trump on SNL?
01:46:47.000 It's just so weird to me.
01:46:49.000 They're hoping he'll say something that the press will report is true so that they'll have something to talk about.
01:46:55.000 Trump's SNL character says this.
01:46:57.000 I want to call out Seamus real quick.
01:46:58.000 Yeah, what are you calling me out for?
01:47:00.000 Jason says, the rainbow is the biblical symbol to Noah as a covenant.
01:47:04.000 Yeah.
01:47:04.000 I'd like to see the rainbow more often.
01:47:06.000 Seamus, put the rainbow behind you.
01:47:08.000 Why not?
01:47:09.000 If it's like an actual rainbow and not in the form of a gate.
01:47:12.000 I mean, look, we need to take it back, folks.
01:47:13.000 We need to take it back.
01:47:14.000 Take it back.
01:47:14.000 It was never lost.
01:47:15.000 Exactly.
01:47:16.000 Well, culturally, we have.
01:47:17.000 Unfortunately, but yeah, we got my issue is I agree.
01:47:20.000 You should never allow them to act to have made there should be no nothing that I do that says to you, you can't use your own symbols.
01:47:27.000 I would agree with you.
01:47:28.000 I would agree.
01:47:29.000 I hate that they want to left hijack.
01:47:31.000 Diversity is another one.
01:47:32.000 Yes, they've hijacked diversity.
01:47:35.000 And it's obviously not a diversity of thought.
01:47:37.000 It's a diversity of physical representation or, you know, chosen identity.
01:47:42.000 But But yeah, that's another one that they've they've hijacked.
01:47:46.000 How about we reach out to one of our awesome fans who've done this woodworking for us and we get a rainbow that says God's Covenant to Noah?
01:47:56.000 Yeah, beautiful!
01:47:57.000 Let's do it.
01:47:57.000 I would 100%.
01:47:57.000 I would 100%.
01:48:01.000 It was a symbol of Christianity or Abrahamic religion before it was a symbol of anything else.
01:48:08.000 Cultural appropriation.
01:48:09.000 Exactly.
01:48:10.000 And what is the left able to do?
01:48:12.000 All the left is able to do is steal and twist, right?
01:48:16.000 They don't deal with anything original.
01:48:17.000 They take other concepts, they bastardize them, they destroy them.
01:48:20.000 How about you make flags that have a rainbow on it from like edge to edge.
01:48:23.000 And an arc in front of it.
01:48:25.000 And it says God's covenant to Noah.
01:48:27.000 Or not even the arc, I mean the cross or something.
01:48:30.000 I think if you put a cross, people would be like, oh, he's a pro-LGBTQ Christian.
01:48:35.000 But I think if it's the arc, then it's clear that you're referring to the rainbow as a promise.
01:48:43.000 And then if all Christians started flying that flag.
01:48:45.000 It's crystal fashion.
01:48:47.000 Is that their new buzz phrase?
01:48:48.000 It's never not been a symbol of God's covenant to know.
01:48:50.000 No, they stole it.
01:48:51.000 Well, then you should never have stopped using it.
01:48:54.000 Well, look, I was not the one who made that decision.
01:48:56.000 And I think a lot of churches still do.
01:48:57.000 I do want to give an update.
01:48:59.000 I am working on getting that LGBT pride video.
01:49:05.000 Oh my goodness, yeah.
01:49:06.000 So the issue is copyright.
01:49:08.000 So just trying to figure out where we can find a video that is clear of copyright.
01:49:13.000 And I'm really interested to hear what these ad agencies will have to say.
01:49:17.000 They're going to say that's inappropriate.
01:49:18.000 I'll be like, but there are children there.
01:49:20.000 Certainly you don't think Pride is inappropriate for children, do you?
01:49:24.000 There are children at the event.
01:49:25.000 Say it.
01:49:26.000 Say it publicly.
01:49:27.000 Let me post that email where the ad agency says we think Pride parades are inappropriate for children.
01:49:31.000 I'd love show everyone what you think. So it's a question of like,
01:49:36.000 if an ad agency denies showing this ad, then people aren't going to understand because they're not
01:49:42.000 going to see the ad. All they're going to know is that a company tried putting up a video of
01:49:46.000 a pride parade with children that was family friendly, and the ad agencies refused to do it. Or
01:49:51.000 the ad agency can come out and say, here's why, and explain what the video was, and then people
01:49:55.000 will understand why it wasn't put up.
01:49:57.000 Or they can choose to put the ad up of the old fat man twerking in front of a little girl,
01:50:02.000 and then waving to her. And they can say, see for yourself why we didn't want to run it,
01:50:07.000 but then they'll have run it. So I think it's an untenable situation.
01:50:10.000 However, we got to do it right.
01:50:12.000 So I'm talking to some people.
01:50:13.000 We're looking for videos that clearly depict what was going on.
01:50:19.000 And we have clearance on copyright issues for running it as an advertisement.
01:50:23.000 They'll try and make some arguments like, you know, they're clearly going to say it's not appropriate.
01:50:27.000 And like, that's great.
01:50:28.000 Just make the public statement that Pride parades, Pride events are not appropriate.
01:50:32.000 For little kids, yeah.
01:50:33.000 For anybody.
01:50:34.000 For ad space.
01:50:36.000 Because I mean, adults are going to see it.
01:50:37.000 Is that not okay?
01:50:38.000 Well, of course they won't allow it.
01:50:40.000 That's the thing.
01:50:41.000 When you have these videos coming out of these Pride events where people are fully nude and doing these things, it is people turning their faces away and saying, I'm not going anywhere near that.
01:50:50.000 But what happens when someone says, I want to put it in a magazine?
01:50:53.000 I want that photo in a magazine.
01:50:54.000 I want a full page out in the New York Times.
01:50:57.000 Then they'll all start saying, no, we don't accept it.
01:50:59.000 It's like when the parents went to the hearings over schools and said, I'm going to read from you a passage from a book you approve for my classroom.
01:51:07.000 And then they shut their mics off like, no, no, you can't read that stuff in here.
01:51:10.000 Hypocrisy.
01:51:11.000 I think it was the libs of TikTok that showed the video of the drag stripper show in Duluth, Minnesota, my home state, where they had the little five and six-year-olds right in the front row, and they were giving them dollars to give to the drag queen strippers.
01:51:27.000 And then there's some videos where they put it in their thongs and G-strings.
01:51:29.000 Yeah.
01:51:30.000 All right, Norman upset Bryson Gray is suing Spotify for censoring Pride Month.
01:51:34.000 You can still find it on YouTube.
01:51:35.000 Hilarious video.
01:51:36.000 Interesting.
01:51:38.000 I'll check it out.
01:51:40.000 All right.
01:51:41.000 Julianne Boone says, I'm concerned about Ian's posture.
01:51:44.000 He should sit up straight with his shoulders back.
01:51:47.000 Thanks.
01:51:49.000 You are right about that.
01:51:50.000 That's my, that's my pin tweet.
01:51:51.000 I'll be fixing my posture this year.
01:51:52.000 Thanks for reminding me.
01:51:53.000 Monkey D Joe says, you have the best content on YouTube.
01:51:58.000 Oh, we know.
01:51:59.000 That's right.
01:52:00.000 And that, that also means that Seamus doesn't.
01:52:02.000 Wait, hold on a second.
01:52:06.000 I mean, technically you're right, logically, but they're just wrong.
01:52:08.000 They're wrong.
01:52:09.000 Fatman says the modern pride flag is a hidden swastika divided into four parts.
01:52:13.000 I don't know if it was deliberately done by Nazis slowly influencing the takeover of the flag's design, similar to the eBay yellow or white situation, or if it's just a happy coincidence.
01:52:22.000 Yeah, it's funny.
01:52:23.000 Someone, um, they got suspended from Twitter for doing that.
01:52:25.000 Yep.
01:52:26.000 If you take the pride flag- You make four of them.
01:52:29.000 And you have one pointing left, one pointing up, one pointing right, and one pointing down, it makes a swastika.
01:52:33.000 That's right.
01:52:34.000 That's funny.
01:52:36.000 Scary.
01:52:36.000 It's like, Metaphysical coalescing.
01:52:39.000 Spirits.
01:52:40.000 Yeah.
01:52:40.000 Strange.
01:52:41.000 Well, there you go.
01:52:42.000 Remember when that Tariq Nasheed guy made a logo for his company and it was a negative space swastika?
01:52:47.000 So it was like, if you take a swastika and then color in the white portions and then white out the black portions, that's what he made.
01:52:53.000 So it's like, everyone's like, bro, that's a swastika.
01:52:55.000 He's like, no, it isn't.
01:52:55.000 They're like, dude, it's a swastika.
01:52:58.000 Yeah.
01:52:58.000 So weird that people do this, man.
01:53:01.000 All right.
01:53:04.000 Excited for now says, just seen that Breyer is retiring tomorrow instead of later this year.
01:53:08.000 Not surprised.
01:53:09.000 Wonder what they threatened him with.
01:53:10.000 No, it's over.
01:53:13.000 Aren't they issuing their last ruling tomorrow?
01:53:15.000 They did like an extra day so they can issue the last ruling and then the session is over.
01:53:20.000 So Katanji Brown-Jackson will come in and then the session will start up again next year, I think.
01:53:25.000 I don't know.
01:53:26.000 But whatever, a liberal is being replaced by a far leftist, so I don't think that'll change a whole lot.
01:53:32.000 And then when Trump gets re-elected, he's going to replace many more justices, and it's going to be like a 7-2 conservative court, or an 8-1.
01:53:43.000 Adam Brenneman says, Maj Touré directly cited, along with Dred Scott, in SCOTUS ruling, all gun laws are racist.
01:53:51.000 Yes, I agree.
01:53:52.000 Correct.
01:53:54.000 It's rooted in racism.
01:53:55.000 And the left, they should be coming out and saying it's racist.
01:53:59.000 A lot of drug laws are rooted in racism too.
01:54:01.000 Nixon used those marijuana laws to go after the Black Panthers and the hippie movement and stuff.
01:54:05.000 I posted a meme and it's like, this is Randy and it's a black dude.
01:54:08.000 And it's like, Randy posts an innocent video with him and his son at the range.
01:54:11.000 This is Karen.
01:54:12.000 She freaks out and reports it to the authorities.
01:54:14.000 And then it's like a biased police go to a court and get a warrant for the removal of his firearms, and then it shows three cops in armor, and it's like at 3 a.m., armed officers kick in Randy's door, his son and wife are screaming in terror, and he's killed instinctively trying to defend his family.
01:54:29.000 And I'm just like, if you thought stopping Frisk was bad, Red flag laws are ten times worse.
01:54:35.000 But for me, it's not an issue of race.
01:54:36.000 For the left, it is.
01:54:37.000 And so the left should be hearing that and being like, oh, you're right.
01:54:40.000 Instead, they're just like, nah, we don't care.
01:54:42.000 Because they're hypocrites.
01:54:43.000 I wanted to say something on behalf of Majd.
01:54:44.000 Shoutout to Majd Turai.
01:54:45.000 I like him.
01:54:47.000 It is racism as well, but it's really just anti-freedom.
01:54:54.000 And I think a lot of people's concept of America is flawed in this way, in that we, many of us today, believe that the American government should secure our freedom.
01:55:03.000 It was never intended for the American government to secure your freedom.
01:55:06.000 You have the rights to secure your own freedom, and in your community, come together and coalesce to defend your freedom.
01:55:13.000 And when you pair the Second Amendment with the independent business owner, a nation of shopkeepers, you get a safeguard against economic imperialism and tyranny.
01:55:23.000 And that's what America was supposed to be.
01:55:25.000 And many black people need to understand that going forward so they can vote the right way.
01:55:29.000 All right.
01:55:30.000 Jedi Mind Trick says Ian says abortion does not meet the definition of murder.
01:55:33.000 Murder is defined as the unlawful premeditated killing of a human by another.
01:55:38.000 Fetuses are not alien.
01:55:39.000 They aren't cats.
01:55:40.000 They are human.
01:55:44.000 I mean, it depends on the jurisdiction, I suppose, whether or not it's a murder.
01:55:48.000 I don't think so.
01:55:50.000 Based on what he's, I don't think that's the point he's making.
01:55:52.000 He's making the point that if murder is defined as the unlawful premeditated killing of a human and fetuses are human.
01:55:59.000 And if it's lawful to kill, if it's lawful to kill the fetus, then it's not a murder.
01:56:02.000 That's the point.
01:56:03.000 No, the law is homicide.
01:56:05.000 Murder is a noun.
01:56:07.000 He just said murder is the illegal killing of a human.
01:56:10.000 Murder is defined as the unlawful premeditated killing of one human by another.
01:56:14.000 Unlawful.
01:56:15.000 So if it's not unlawful, then it's not murder.
01:56:18.000 So if it's not unlawful to kill a human being, then it's allowed.
01:56:21.000 Then it's not murder.
01:56:21.000 It's still homicide.
01:56:23.000 Right.
01:56:24.000 Well, homicide then.
01:56:25.000 Use that word.
01:56:25.000 Okay.
01:56:27.000 All right.
01:56:28.000 Armored Jester says, Ian, it took 20 days to get my son's birth certificate.
01:56:32.000 You need to chill on the weed and look into these things before you speak in ignorance.
01:56:35.000 Yeah, whatever.
01:56:36.000 First breath when they're born.
01:56:37.000 That's the first thing I said.
01:56:39.000 So what if we like, in order to protect the baby at like six months or like four months, we stick a snorkel up in there.
01:56:45.000 Almost there, Tim.
01:56:46.000 We're very close.
01:56:47.000 They're going to have neural nets soon.
01:56:48.000 The babies will be leading the way.
01:56:50.000 The babies are breathing when they're in the womb.
01:56:53.000 I think they're in liquid.
01:56:54.000 I don't know.
01:56:55.000 No, they actually inhale amniotic fluid to strengthen their lungs.
01:56:58.000 They inhale and exhale it.
01:57:00.000 Cool.
01:57:00.000 You can't have a heartbeat if you're not breathing.
01:57:02.000 I guess if you're sucking.
01:57:03.000 Well, they're taking it, but they're actually getting oxygen through the umbilical cord.
01:57:06.000 Right.
01:57:07.000 But they do exercise their lungs in the womb.
01:57:11.000 MD says if you think the pride flag is ridiculous, pull up the Brooklyn Nets pride flag.
01:57:15.000 I honestly thought it was a troll.
01:57:17.000 We all saw that when we brought it up.
01:57:19.000 I don't know what it is.
01:57:20.000 It's just like every possible flag of any kind of sexuality mashed into one weird thing and it's like... What is this called?
01:57:27.000 The Brooklyn Nets pride flag.
01:57:30.000 Pride month is a complete psyop.
01:57:32.000 Oh, well, MAGA Month is coming up.
01:57:34.000 It's time, yes.
01:57:34.000 Yeah, you know MAGA Month?
01:57:35.000 Wow, that, yeah, I did see this the other day.
01:57:37.000 I got my profile picture ready.
01:57:39.000 You got it.
01:57:39.000 So, on MAGA Month, everyone changes their profile pictures to American flags.
01:57:43.000 Because it's 4th of July month, it's Independence, it's Make America Great Again month.
01:57:46.000 Yeah.
01:57:47.000 It's not about politics, it's about just loving your country and your neighbors and grilling hot dogs and burgers and blowing stuff up in the air with fireworks.
01:57:54.000 Can I give an honest criticism of Donald Trump real quick?
01:57:56.000 Of course.
01:57:57.000 Absolutely not.
01:57:58.000 There's no such thing as an honest criticism of Donald Trump.
01:58:02.000 Yeah, he's perfect in every single way.
01:58:04.000 I think one of the shortcomings of Donald Trump's messaging around MAGA, and I'm not saying this to be disparaging on him in any real harsh way, but When I talk to people in my community in CD5 in Minneapolis, they really believe Make America Great Again is a desire to take America back to a time when race relations were worse.
01:58:30.000 And it's a huge info war because in the 1970s there was a moment where we had racial harmony coming out of the civil rights movement.
01:58:38.000 And the security state intentionally tried to subvert that racial harmony that existed for a moment.
01:58:44.000 But Make America Great Again is also based largely on foreign policy and trade.
01:58:50.000 And there was a time in this country where we had a surplus, and we were the center of manufacturing.
01:58:56.000 And the main message behind Make America Great Again, I think people need to understand going forward, whether you traditionally identify as Republican or Democrat, is that the sovereignty of this country is being exported
01:59:08.000 to another country that doesn't believe in human freedom at all, whether you believe in God or not,
01:59:14.000 and that is China and the CCP.
01:59:16.000 They don't believe in human freedom, they don't believe in human rights, and they don't believe in
01:59:19.000 health care. Old people in China don't have health care. So, I mean, that's kind of an info
01:59:26.000 word that I wanted to speak on. All right. Leon Cintron says the Constitution grants citizenship
01:59:31.000 by birth, not by fertilization.
01:59:33.000 The U.S.
01:59:34.000 government doesn't enforce the Constitution on non-citizens until you are born in American territory or naturalized.
01:59:39.000 The U.S.
01:59:39.000 Constitution isn't applicable.
01:59:40.000 Wrong!
01:59:42.000 You are 100% wrong.
01:59:44.000 The Supreme Court has already ruled the Constitution applies to non-citizens so long as they are here.
01:59:48.000 That means tourists have free speech, tourists have 2A, tourists have a right to be free from search and seizure, and all of these unwarranted.
01:59:58.000 The Constitution absolutely applies to non-citizens.
02:00:00.000 That's been ruled on time and time again.
02:00:02.000 Illegal aliens.
02:00:02.000 Yup, they get constitutional rights.
02:00:04.000 That's right.
02:00:05.000 They have free speech, they have 2A, they have all of these things.
02:00:07.000 Now, with 2A, there's probably laws in many states about permitting, about non-resident, but not non-citizen.
02:00:18.000 John Galt says, Ian, if a U.S.
02:00:20.000 woman is a homesteader and has a baby at home, doesn't get a birth certificate, is homeschooled at the age of 18, on the way to town to get his birth certificate and driver's license, he's arrested.
02:00:31.000 Arrested?
02:00:32.000 Is he protected by U.S.
02:00:33.000 rights?
02:00:34.000 Yeah, I think we already covered it.
02:00:35.000 It's birth that gives you the U.S.
02:00:37.000 citizen, or the U.S.
02:00:38.000 rights.
02:00:38.000 But that's why I asked you, like, what if they're born in a test tube?
02:00:42.000 Like, what if they're in an amniotic bag?
02:00:44.000 Artificial bag?
02:00:46.000 When do their rights die?
02:00:46.000 On American soil?
02:00:47.000 Yeah.
02:00:48.000 The moment they're born into the bag.
02:00:53.000 It's like an out-of-sight, out-of-mind thing, I think, for a lot of people.
02:01:00.000 Because if the baby's gestating in a glass case and you can watch it from day one of fertilization all the way through, you're going to think a lot earlier that it should deserve those rights, I bet.
02:01:12.000 Theodore Hotchstettler says, here's what it means to be Christian, quote, that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
02:01:24.000 Romans 10 9.
02:01:24.000 Well, there you go.
02:01:27.000 Saved from what?
02:01:31.000 Eternal damnation.
02:01:33.000 Let's grab a couple more.
02:01:35.000 We'll just do a couple more.
02:01:36.000 We'll try and get as many as we can in.
02:01:38.000 Wayne Martin says, to add to Royce's point, have we heard any acknowledgments of the Roe v. Wade ruling from any of the churches or huge religious leaders?
02:01:47.000 That's a good question.
02:01:48.000 I know that I've heard people saying that their church, you know, their priest gave a good homily after Roe was overturned.
02:01:55.000 I've also heard some people claiming that their priest or pastor was condemning the ruling.
02:02:00.000 It's a mixed bag, unfortunately.
02:02:04.000 Denon S says, given our government's history on the issue of personhood, I find it disturbing that Ian wants to predicate human value on the government's definitions.
02:02:12.000 Who else is gonna- what else are we gonna predicate it on?
02:02:14.000 Your feelings?
02:02:16.000 You know, these are very difficult moral questions, I suppose.
02:02:19.000 But the challenge ultimately is... When does the government have the right to kill human?
02:02:27.000 Whenever they want.
02:02:28.000 Whenever Congress says it's the time.
02:02:30.000 I mean, that's the reality.
02:02:33.000 When the government says it, they do it.
02:02:35.000 Obama's not in prison.
02:02:36.000 It's supposed to be Congress that decides it, but the Patriot Act's insane.
02:02:39.000 Obama straight up killed American citizens without charge or trial.
02:02:42.000 Yeah.
02:02:42.000 No accountability.
02:02:43.000 Federal government is a Frankenstein.
02:02:45.000 Yeah.
02:02:46.000 All right.
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02:03:56.000 Right on, right on.
02:03:57.000 Amazing.
02:03:57.000 Seamus Coghlan.
02:03:59.000 Oh man, I'm gonna miss you guys.
02:04:00.000 Gonna miss all of you.
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02:04:18.000 But it's okay.
02:04:19.000 We've got another Catholic here to replace James.
02:04:21.000 Dirty evil Catholic.
02:04:22.000 That's right.
02:04:22.000 That's right.
02:04:23.000 Yep.
02:04:24.000 Have a nice evening, everyone.
02:04:25.000 Ian Crossland.
02:04:26.000 Always great to see you, man.
02:04:27.000 And you.
02:04:28.000 I guess the referee was judicious, but we need to go.
02:04:32.000 Gloves off.
02:04:33.000 You guys are supposed to do that two-hour conversation.
02:04:36.000 I mean, I've said I I've said before I don't like I talk about tomorrow when there's elements of it that I know But I'm not someone who's when are you leaving qualified to debate this publicly in my opinion?
02:04:48.000 Like I'll get into some arguments about it If a point comes up where I know someone's wrong, but when it comes like a really in-depth dive I really want to do more reading first just to make sure I'm not saying like anything Irresponsible or that misses the mark.
02:05:00.000 Yes speaking of Which I've mentioned before.
02:05:02.000 You're very like moralistic, as I know, like a really moralistic guy.
02:05:05.000 And when Tim asked me a direct question to criticize you, I said drinking.
02:05:08.000 Like that was like kind of lazy of me.
02:05:11.000 So I would love to go deeper.
02:05:12.000 I appreciate that.
02:05:15.000 I mean, yeah, yeah.
02:05:16.000 Not to get on the point too much, but yeah, I mean like Jesus drank, the apostles drank.
02:05:20.000 It's not a sin to have alcohol.
02:05:22.000 Also, they may have taken ergot.
02:05:24.000 Ooh, I don't agree with that.
02:05:26.000 They also play disco music.
02:05:27.000 What?
02:05:28.000 That's historically true.
02:05:29.000 We're just making things up.
02:05:32.000 I, with a straight face, have said historical inaccuracies on a primetime show because we've already determined that's a Chad move.
02:05:38.000 That's the way to go.
02:05:39.000 That's correct.
02:05:40.000 Yeah, so if you guys still like makeup... No, I'm just kidding.
02:05:42.000 There's nowhere you can go to make up stuff like that.
02:05:44.000 AOC and Tim are a special class of person.
02:05:46.000 Thank you very much for coming by this evening, Royce, for your big game tomorrow.
02:05:50.000 Thank you, Seamus, for visiting and sharing your knowledge with us.
02:05:52.000 I know you're not a theologian, but I feel like if you have a firmly held belief that you have a right and a privilege to share it with people and to see if you can persuade them to think the way you think.
02:06:00.000 Thank you.
02:06:01.000 I do my best.
02:06:02.000 I really do do my best.
02:06:03.000 I just, I try to be careful if that's like the specific topic.
02:06:06.000 I would want to know like a specific thing you wanted to get into so that like I could make sure I was really well read on that specific part before we dove into it.
02:06:14.000 All right, man.
02:06:14.000 We'll figure that stuff out.
02:06:16.000 It'll be really cool.
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