In this episode, we talk with Ed Calderon, a counter-narcotics expert who has spent a lot of time working on the southern border of the United States. We talk about what it's like to be a Mexican-American living on the border and how dangerous it can be.
00:00:47.00017,000 are apparently being allowed to stay.
00:00:50.000And I guess what happens, you get enough of these people at the border, the government panics because of the bad press and says, just let them all in.
00:01:09.000I worked for the Mexican government for about 12 years doing counter-narcotics work, working against people traffickers, working against cartels, and specifically kind of spending a lot of time and experiencing the border on the southern side of it, you know, looking at some of these problems firsthand.
00:01:27.000Um, currently we're working, train people across the country from Border Patrol to FBI, Secret Service, uh, people that just want to be safe.
00:01:35.000And a lot of the things that I, uh, showcase and kind of show people are directly related to that experience that I had down there.
00:01:42.000And there's apparently like, I don't, I don't, I don't know if this is too off the beat path, but you're mentioning like weird occult stuff too, like stuff that goes on down there with like unsolved murders.
00:02:04.000Basically showing them the current versions and symbology and trends as far as Santa Muerte, the veneration of Malverde, which is like a Mexican Robin Hood.
00:02:14.000to how some of these groups utilize some of these things in a ritualistic fashion to create fear in their enemies or to initiate people within their ranks by having them do crazy things like eating somebody's heart.
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00:06:54.000I mean, so things are economically, they're pretty bad in a lot of places in South America.
00:06:58.000Um, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of Haitians actually stayed in Mexico, for example, and a lot of them were given, given the refugee status in Mexico.
00:07:05.000Um, after Trump lost the elections and after Biden came into power, there, there, there was a massive kind of like a Spike and chatter and conversations in some of these Facebook groups attached to the migrant caravan groups that are out there.
00:07:30.000You were saying before the show, there's like massive networks of Facebook groups that are all like organized just to get people across the border.
00:07:37.000And it's interesting, I mean, they're kind of automated, like, as soon as something changes or shifts, like, they're, oh, don't go to Tijuana this time, go to, go through Texas.
00:07:46.000Don't go to, don't go through California, go to Texas now.
00:08:30.000Oh, if you can't make the trip but you have young children, have your children make the trip for you so they can later on claim you and chain migration can happen.
00:08:52.000Let's say you know somebody who lives in the Philippines.
00:08:56.000You could sponsor them and assume, I think it's 10 years of financial liability for the individual, and it makes it substantially easier for them to come.
00:09:04.000Not perfectly easy, but substantially easier for them.
00:09:24.000And a lot of these kids that you see on the border that are being smuggled over, I mean, they're not, they're not, they're not voluntarily taking the trip.
00:09:30.000You know, um, there's a few videos out there.
00:09:33.000I've actually posted some of those videos on my, on my Instagram account, which shows them.
00:09:37.000They're clearly being, I mean, uh, we had some medical professionals comment on there.
00:10:18.000Organizers were being paid in dollars.
00:10:21.000The camps were being set up in certain places and were being completely supplied and funded by people from California driving down and giving them supplies.
00:10:30.000With this current version of it, you see people waiting on the other side of the border for some of these people as soon as they cross and getting basically distributed across the country.
00:10:43.000You see people on the southern border of Mexico, as soon as they cross, basically catch them with buses and organizing their transport on the way up.
00:10:52.000So there's a logistic, there's a whole, it's a whole logistical process that's being organized by somebody.
00:10:57.000Are they bringing them from South America or are they there waiting to catch them when they enter Mexico?
00:11:01.000I mean, they are basically, the whole advice that they're given on some of these social media groups is to amass or organizing groups.
00:11:11.000Different than it was with the last Honduran kind of mostly Honduran migrant caravan.
00:11:16.000One of the reasons they avoided going to through the central part of Mexico into Texas was because most of the members of this caravan were actually 18th Street gang members.
00:11:26.000Which traditionally have a rivalry with the 13 Mara Salvatrucha people.
00:11:31.000So that's why they went all the way through California to avoid that.
00:11:36.000But these guys are Haitians so they don't have that problem.
00:12:47.000I mean, from my experience looking at some of these things progressing, you see this new cartel down there, the Cartel de Jalisco de Nueva Generación, the New Generation Cartel.
00:13:03.000A lot of videos of them on social media where they have all this military equipment and they're raising their rifles and stuff like that.
00:13:10.000They are expanding at a dramatic rate across the country and people can't figure out how it is possible for these groups to be expanding.
00:13:20.000And they're like, well, I mean, they're a violent group and they have connections in Mexico and Mexico.
00:13:24.000They're obviously a proxy group for somebody externally.
00:13:28.000And then you realize that on the state side, these criminal groups are using Chinese banking apps to hide their money to send back to Mexico.
00:14:37.000As soon as you saw the legalization of weed in California, some of the crops changed into poppy.
00:14:42.000And this is around the time of the prescription opiate epidemic and how it was kind of waning down.
00:14:47.000And they were ready for something else.
00:14:49.000And that something else was fentanyl-laced heroin.
00:14:52.000And now the new thing is bogus pain medication laced with fentanyl.
00:14:57.000So now you're finding weird pill presses in Mexico and they're manufacturing something that looks like a... But this is killing their own customers.
00:15:27.000They played a long game, and I mean, the Opium Wars technically ended 170 years ago, but I don't think they ever ended.
00:15:32.000They don't want to get back, you know?
00:15:33.000Yeah, I heard that with Afghanistan, that the Taliban shut down the poppy fields, but then as soon as we came back in, we started them back up.
00:15:58.000Now, you mentioned that when legalized marijuana came to the States, a lot of these fields turned to poppy.
00:16:06.000I was down in Mexico, this is almost two years ago now, and I heard from a lot of people that when marijuana became legal and they couldn't make money off it, they started just hijacking avocado companies.
00:16:55.000So what you saw with some of these avocado orchards and some of the auto defenses or the self-defense groups that grew out of some of these conflicts out there.
00:17:55.000If the cartel shows up and says, you're gonna pay us to protect you, and you say, okay, here's the money, they'll actually protect you from criminals and... Yeah, it's true.
00:18:03.000I mean, I had the surreal experience of driving on a road in Sinaloa that was cartel-made better than the public roads, right?
00:18:12.000So during the COVID epidemic, on the news, not even on the news, just the social media, you would see the cartels handing out supplies to people, you know?
00:19:45.000Can you explain what those are a little bit?
00:19:47.000It's a phenomenon that happened in Juarez back in the early 2000s where, you know, basically women were found murdered, raped, and ritualistically killed in a lot of parts in the desert on Juarez.
00:19:57.000Mostly women that worked in some of the maquiladoras, basically the large industrial plants that work out there.
00:20:04.000A lot of weird rumors around that, you know, um, there was a lot of, a lot of the media and the government in Mexico was saying it was cartel related because that's the easiest thing to say.
00:20:30.000I mean, a cartel specifically, if you're a large enough group where you have influences and or fear on behalf of the police towards you, you're a criminal enterprise.
00:20:41.000If you tax people to start their businesses where you control, if you are in control of a drug route up into the United States, or if you traffic drugs yourself, I think you're kind of there.
00:20:52.000I guess the definition of a cartel has to do with merchandising, manufacturing, and distribution.
00:20:59.000So I guess if you're going back to like the old trope of the mafia, that was just the local group being like, you're gonna pay us, so we're gonna smash your face up, we'll protect you, you know, protection racket, that's more like mob stuff.
00:21:10.000But with the cartels, it's specifically around the products and the manufacturing and the distribution.
00:21:42.000So I think the only reason why you won't label the cartels a terrorist organization is because
00:21:48.000now people fleeing from Mexico have a legal claim to asylum.
00:21:52.000Because now they're leaving a terrorist group that the U.S.
00:21:55.000in some way, shape, or form... But the reality is, if they are acting like a terrorist group, then those people really are fleeing.
00:22:02.000Well, I mean, there's ghost towns in Mexico, people that fled cartel terrorism, basically.
00:22:09.000This is crazy to me, like, it's self-destructive.
00:22:12.000I mean, why would the cartels do something that would negatively impact the economy that they want to benefit from?
00:22:19.000Yeah, again, these groups get formed, grow, leadership gets killed, one cartel turns into two, a 40-year-old cartel head is now a 25-year-old guy after the other guy got killed, and it's a chaotic thing.
00:22:41.000I don't want to get into specifics of COVID, but basically like a virus.
00:22:44.000We've talked about how Ebola is a bad virus in that it's so extreme that people become debilitated or get quarantined or noticeably sick, and that limits the ability for it to spread.
00:22:56.000And the viruses that are quote-unquote good or successful are the ones that your body doesn't react to.
00:23:02.000So the virus infects every single human possible and flourishes and lives on because it's not causing too much damage.
00:23:07.000I think about these cartels and I'm like, if you've got a town and people are doing stuff, you can extract, you can steal from those people, but there's a fine line, right?
00:23:16.000It's the goose that, it's killing the goose that lays the golden egg.
00:23:19.000And so you eventually find out, you know, this story reminds me of, or like is similar, I guess, to like the virus.
00:23:25.000They become so extreme They burn out the area cause everyone to flee and there's
00:23:28.000nothing left to get and then they have to leave There's nothing there for any for them anymore. Yeah, I
00:23:32.000mean Sinaloa the state of sinaloa and culiacan specifically is a
00:23:36.000pretty good example of the of you know How some of these cartels classically operate?
00:23:40.000The mexican president went to sinaloa and shook hands with el chapo's mom and talked to his lawyer
00:23:49.000And then later, a few years later, two years later, he went and did a meeting with the local poppy and weed growers, like this televised with the, with the head of the, the, of the, of the security of the army next to him and said, people are bringing fentanyl from China and, All these chemicals, like, what about the poppy field growers?
00:24:58.000It's a weird thing to kind of focus on when the country's burning, you know?
00:25:01.000So let me ask you about the border, man.
00:25:04.000When you heard this large man with orange skin and swirly blonde hair say, build a wall, what was your initial reaction with your experience being on the border?
00:25:15.000The fence, because it was a fence, not a wall.
00:25:19.000The fence had already been built up and was already kind of highly secure in places like the border between Tijuana and San Diego.
00:25:29.000And drug prices, specifically cocaine, have been stable for 30 years.
00:25:32.000So it means that that doesn't realistic.
00:25:34.000As far as a safety feature for the United States, it's a counter narcotic feature or safety to keep the bad people out.
00:25:43.000Isn't there like a point where the fence just goes to the water and you can just go around it?
00:25:48.000And there's always a, there's a bunch of border patrol there and you know, they'll, they'll tackle you if you, if you try it.
00:25:53.000They throw you back on the other side or what?
00:25:54.000No, they'll tackle you, they'll put you in a processing center, and then put you on a bus, and then you'll be walked across San Ysidro probably in a few... Like, right now, the way things are?
00:26:02.000Like, it's the next day, I think, you know?
00:26:05.000That, like, you're on one side of the fence, and you walk over, and they grab you, and then do all of this crazy administrative work instead of just pushing you back and back together?
00:26:12.000Yeah, no, I just want to grab you and process you and then send you back, which is an amazing drain of resources.
00:26:18.000Another thing, like right now during the whole Haitian push into the U.S., a lot of the checkpoints around the area that were usually manned for counter-narcotic interdiction stuff, completely abandoned.
00:26:34.000And you hear chatter on the southern side of the border with some of the guys that are, you know, crossing the border not to migrate, but with loads on their backs.
00:26:45.000Border Patrol is not manning these... U.S.
00:26:47.000Border Patrol abandoned most of their posts, specifically some of their, you know, some of their roadblocks that they have, and also some of the counter-narcotic interdiction stuff that they usually do in some places.
00:27:00.000A lot of these places where ghost towns are abandoned because they were all concentrated on that specific border area.
00:27:08.000And also just hearing some of the conversations here and some of the people that I used to work with on the south side of the border, they're all saying it's Navidad, it's Christmas, you know?
00:27:35.000The borders open and also these massive immigration influx into the United States put most of your already outstretched resources into a single spot, which means it's Christmas for trafficking Everywhere else.
00:28:04.000And again, this border crisis is making millions and millions of dollars for people that are just waiting for the cat to go, you know, to be busy somewhere else.
00:28:37.000You wouldn't use something as valuable as a fully submersible submarine for people because then the people have a tendency to talk, you know?
00:28:46.000uh but yeah fully submersibles uh drones uh like squadron of drones um catapults small catapult oh i heard these stories they launch them over the trebuchets that's the first time i when i saw one i saw one in mexicali and i saw and i was like That's a trebuchet.
00:29:13.000The RC cars, electric controlled remote cars, RC cars just speed out there.
00:29:18.000Drones, tunnels, people that have border crossing cards, like there's a sentry program in places like Baja, where people that cross the border regularly get extra verified by the US.
00:29:32.000and cartels are aware of this so they see oh you're a sentry pass guy let me put some load on the bottom of your car because you're already trusted traveler and that's an easy way to get drugs into the country.
00:29:42.000It's like that thing that kids do when you're like shopping at a 7-eleven and then your friend puts a candy bar in your hood so you don't know it's happening and you walk just like normally out of the store and you're not acting suspicious and the kid walks up and it's like yeah!
00:29:54.000Yeah, that only with a, you know, key of coke.
00:29:58.000You know, that happens a lot on the border.
00:30:23.000I mean, securing the border... Specifically, so what you're saying is Trump is correct and we should build a big, beautiful 30-foot concrete wall from sea to shining sea?
00:30:31.000I mean, I think a wall's not feasible.
00:31:32.000I was working generalized regional security, basically.
00:31:34.000But a lot of our work was basically working against people that were trying to get stuff through the border or trying to get things from the U.S.
00:31:41.000How does that work with the cartels, then, right?
00:31:43.000Because the government's certainly not in complete control.
00:31:47.000I mean, realistically, there's no border security in Mexico.
00:31:52.000There's a place where people cross by and there's border agents, but they're looking for taxable goods.
00:31:58.000They're not looking for... Every now and then they'll get contraband.
00:32:02.000People trying to smuggle guns or bullets in.
00:32:04.000But they're realistically not looking to secure the border on the Mexican side.
00:32:09.000And the government itself has a case of amnesia every six years when the new president comes in, everything gets, you know, all this was successful, this was failure, everything's bad, get rid of all of it.
00:33:33.000There are places in Canada where you can see these videos on Reddit where it's like there'll be like a teenager standing in between the US-Canadian border and it's just like a chain going across like two orange posts and there's no one anywhere near it.
00:33:48.000There's one part where, I think it's in Minnesota, Where it's the honor system, you drive in, pull up to a booth, go up to the booth, like it's like a little shack, you go inside, pick up the phone and say, hi, you give me your name and say I'm entering the country and say, OK, thank you.
00:34:00.000And then you hang up and then you drive.
00:34:02.000Yeah, that will never happen, I think, on the southern border.
00:34:15.000There's trail videos and rancher videos in Texas of What if, like, what if somebody has property up against the border and then they see some dude with, like, an AK coming from the border crossing onto their property?
00:34:24.000basically armed cartel groups in Texas just you know moving around and just
00:34:29.000coming back and what if what if like what if somebody has property up against
00:34:34.000the border and then they see some dude with like an AK coming from the border
00:34:38.000crossing onto their property I mean do they have a right to defend their
00:34:40.000property and stop this guy's like I mean I think they do have a right to defend
00:34:43.000their property and they have the means if they're in Texas The problem is that these people can get to you.
00:35:56.000It's right there and also it's right here.
00:35:59.000If that happens, it's going to be an interesting conflict because I don't think it's going to be like any conflict this country has ever fought.
00:36:08.000Specifically, it's going to be really close.
00:36:43.000Well, there was a Canadian company owned by China that wanted to buy some of those mining rights, and that ended pretty quickly.
00:36:49.000And then right around the area where some of this stuff is, is where the Mormon massacre happened down there, which is an interesting coincidence.
00:37:06.000That like Mormons from Earth go find another planet and then like an alien race kills them and there's an incident where they go and investigate this Mormon massacre.
00:37:27.000Riker and I would get some of the data arms, you know, just crush people.
00:37:33.000Okay, I'm confirming what you're talking about the lithium mine in Sonora largest deposit with proven probable reserves reserves of 243.8 million tons of probable reserves about four and a half million tons of lithium as of 2019.
00:37:45.000If the US actually goes in there and into Mexico, I think it's not going to be about regime change or cartels or terrorism is going to be about making batteries.
00:38:18.000So when you were doing security, you're out on the border, are you spending a lot of time out in the middle of nowhere in the desert and stuff?
00:39:19.000I've heard stories that, there was one story I was reading about, I don't know if you've read this one, like a journalist went to El Chapo's house or whatever.
00:42:40.000And so then they experimented with, like, half bollard fencing, half concrete, and they were like, you still can't see a lot of it, and then it doesn't make sense.
00:42:47.000And so they were like, just do a big, multi-layered fence with patrols, and that seems to work.
00:42:52.000And target key areas, and that seems to work.
00:42:55.000There's a lot of areas that's, like, really hard to pass anyway, right?
00:42:59.000Yeah, and also, I mean, what you want if you're a smuggler is to jump over a fence and have a population where you can blend into immediately.
00:43:57.000So there's actually a position in which they're like, you need to explain to these agents occult ideology or like symbolism or...
00:44:05.000There's law enforcement every now and then reaches out.
00:44:09.000I mean, agencies, local, state, and federal sometimes reach out with questions and do a lot of consultation related to them finding a safe house somewhere.
00:44:23.000Somewhere on the east coast they found this house with a bunch of cartel stuff in it.
00:44:29.000Guns, plate armor, with a certain type of setup, and a giant Santa Muerte statue.
00:44:36.000Santa Muerte is basically In Mexico they venerate death as a deity.
00:44:44.000So a giant reaper statue in a place and it had certain colors, the candles were a certain way, there was a plate with certain offerings and you know five federal agents that are Caucasian from you know that have no idea what they're looking at are now asking me like what does this mean?
00:45:06.000And I was exposed to a lot of this stuff growing up in Mexico and also, you know being part of some of that growth and going through my training and then Arresting people that are part of the cult and also just going doing my research out there So they ask questions like what are these candles mean?
00:45:22.000Or what does it mean if it's this color or the the statue was a black statue?
00:45:27.000It wasn't sometimes you find them in rainbow colors or red or yellow rainbow death rainbow death Basically, if you want to cover all your bases... Is that an LGBT death?
00:45:40.000If you have money problems, love problems, if you want to kill somebody and you don't want to get killed back, and you want to have luck in a future endeavor, you go for a rainbow statue because it covers all your bases.
00:45:52.000But if you want to, you know, if you're in the profession of death dealing, in which some of these people are basically consider themselves agents of death, You have a black statue because she gives you the authority to kill other people and you're under her protection.
00:46:07.000So small insights like that is what I provide to some law enforcement professionals out there that are finding some of these things and don't know what they mean.
00:46:35.000It's one of the most Catholic countries in the world, and some of these things just thrive in places like that.
00:46:40.000They have Santa Muerte, which is a death deity.
00:46:44.000They have Malverde, which is like a Mexican womanhood.
00:46:47.000It's a dude that used to rob the rich and would give the money to the poor.
00:46:52.000He was hanged, and they didn't allow him to bury his body.
00:46:55.000But where his body eventually rotted away and landed they put a bunch of rocks there and they started venerating him as a saint and you know there's a there's a there's a shrine to him in Sinaloa.
00:47:06.000You go there and you see pictures of people with their you know new raptors and the states you know like thank you for letting me cross and I just came back to repay you you what you did for me or Somebody with a gold AK somewhere, you know, like this.
00:47:22.000So a lot of this is actually being brought with people stateside.
00:47:26.000So there's like a Santa Marta church in LA.
00:47:29.000There's a roadside, every now and then you find like, I find like roadside graffiti and or shrines of Tumal Verde or like some of these things are like, it's here now.
00:48:15.000It is the last surviving lineage of any sort of Mexica or Aztec death worship in Mexico.
00:48:24.000So you're bringing in the sainthood of Catholicism and you're combining it with... So Catholicism is basically the cloak that it has concealed itself into all day.
00:48:33.000So back in the day it wasn't a public thing.
00:48:36.000So you would see a Virgin Mary statue and behind her there was a skeleton painted.
00:48:41.000So that's how they would hide their veneration, right?
00:48:44.000And even to this day, the Virgen de Guadalupe, the Virgin, the brown Virgin that they venerate in Mexico, there's an eagle feathered cherub underneath her.
00:49:09.000And the Aztec war god was given birth to by Cuauhtlicue, which later on turned into a holy death.
00:49:18.000So in a lot of ways, it's always been kind of concealed in plain view for people.
00:49:22.000But now it's adopted itself into being venerated by marginalized communities, criminal groups, police officers, the military, you know, that is who venerates it.
00:49:32.000And its elements have crossed the border and every now and then the law enforcement finds them up here and they're like, what the hell are we looking at, you know?
00:49:40.000And, you know, some of the ritualized killings they do for video purposes that they spread on social media and stuff like that.
00:49:46.000See, that's a bit different from, like, Christians, you know?
00:49:51.000You get some weird stuff, for sure, but... Alex Jones was on before and talking about, like, these kind of blood rituals that they would do, the Aztecs and stuff, and I looked into it, and it's called bloodletting.
00:50:00.000It's an ancient, very well-known practice.
00:50:01.000Bloodletting is just like, you have a headache, so you drain blood or something.
00:50:05.000Similar, yeah, and it's like, he was like, you put glass through your genital, and it's like... Yeah, that's all bloodletting.
00:51:47.000You ever, you ever experienced anything in like pursuit of or investigation of,
00:51:55.000you know, some occult stuff that gave you pause or made you question, I mean, stuff real.
00:51:59.000I think, uh, things have a power that we give them, right?
00:52:03.000Things have a power, the power that we give them.
00:52:05.000Uh, so specifically, I think, uh, There was this lady who was, she was pretty famous, I can't say her name, but she was pretty famous for being like the head witch of cartel people.
00:52:26.000She could curse you by your sight and stuff like that.
00:52:30.000When I wanted to learn more about this type of stuff for my own research and just to know about it, to kind of gather some of this information to then kind of transfer it to people that might need it later on in life.
00:52:41.000I helped out two of her sons that were in a stolen vehicle thing, right?
00:52:51.000I went to her place where she would do her, you know, her work.
00:52:55.000She's arrived in a Mercedes in the back, you know, changed out of her, you know, good clothes and put on a weird, you know, you know, witch costume, I guess.
00:55:53.000And talking about some hair raising experiences.
00:55:56.000This was pretty subtle, but it made me realize a few things about Mexico.
00:56:04.000We got to this place and they had two and what was remaining of another one hanging from a bridge.
00:56:14.000Uh, we got there and I got, I remember going there and I got like, hey, bring the breaching kit, which is a pair of bolt cutters and a thing to knock down the doors.
00:56:22.000And I was like, yeah, we're going to hit a house.
00:56:23.000And then all of a sudden we're going to go somewhere else.
00:56:26.000And I got handed the bolt cutters and I didn't know what I was going to do.
00:56:28.000I got there and I was like, oh, we're gonna, you know, you're the one in charge of cutting
00:57:39.000And one of my guys ran through a field once and got his foot inside of one of the pits where he would dump things and he had to go to the hospital for chemical stuff and also the hole exposed the smell.
00:57:55.000Which is, to this day, I can't go to Korean barbecue places because it freaks me out.
00:58:01.000People in the United States do not realize how good they have it.
00:58:06.000They don't not only realize how good they have it up here, they don't realize how some of this is also starting to pop up up here.
00:58:14.000And also how some of the stuff that happens down there affects up here directly.
00:58:20.000You were saying before the show, when we were talking, that like 90% of murders are unsolved in Mexico.
00:58:48.000And then as they're goofing off and walking, her being that far apart was enough.
00:58:52.000Car pulls up, they jump out and grab her and try pulling her into the car.
00:58:56.000She screams, her boyfriend and the friends hear and they run over and they grab her and they're trying to keep her out of the car and the car starts driving and they pull her out and the car speeds off.
00:59:04.000And apparently that's like these kidnappings in Texas and places like that on the border.
00:59:09.000You think you're in this American city, everything's going to be great, and then a car just pulls up and the next thing you know you're a slave.
00:59:15.000I'll give you the story and you tell me where it happened.
00:59:18.000A bunch of armed cartel members dressed like federal agents go to a house, do a mock raid on the house, abduct somebody, and then they found him later on dead.
00:59:50.000A lot of abductions happen in migrant communities that never get reported.
00:59:54.000A lot of executions and murders happen in migrant communities that never get reported.
00:59:56.000That makes me wonder, when you said 90 or more percent of murders are unsolved, is that accounting for people that just disappear?
01:00:03.000No, that's not accounting for people that just disappear, which I don't have the numbers in my head right now, but they're pretty astronomical as far as how many people are just missing in Mexico.
01:00:15.000Well, that's an interesting other aspect of it.
01:00:18.000During the COVID epidemic, protozoa were stocked.
01:00:25.000Which means in certain parts of the country, child labor is allowed in the states only when it comes to agriculture.
01:00:35.000There's kids working in some of these fields.
01:00:37.000Governor Newsom in California has a winery that didn't close during COVID and there was a bunch of kids working on those fields that are, you know, Mexican immigrants.
01:00:48.000They are working to pay off their crossing, a lot of these people.
01:00:54.000So in a lot of ways, there's modern-day slavery going on right now.
01:00:59.000Getting across the border, not like the Haitian push that came in, but if you're a Mexican and you cross the border illegally, you have to pay.
01:01:08.000And if you can't pay, you get a little tab on your wrist, so when you get picked up on the U.S.
01:01:14.000side, they know you're still low, so you get processed in a bit different way.
01:01:19.000Some of these people end up in fields and in manufacturing places across the country and some of them go into, if they're female, some of them go into the trade as well.
01:01:30.000And they're basically working off their debt.
01:01:33.000And if they can't pay it, their families that are already set up stateside are paying it.
01:02:00.000And these people get stuck into this circle.
01:02:02.000And also, if they don't pay and they get something bad happen to them, do you think they're going to report that to the police here in the United States?
01:02:11.000It's a whole silent community that just doesn't say anything.
01:03:14.000Or you can go to Michoacan and see it for real.
01:03:18.000Man, I remember warning some government officials when I was doing consulting on drone stuff.
01:03:23.000When consumer level drones were first becoming prominent.
01:03:27.000I actually, uh, there was this organization that sent a person to, like, these news organizations and they asked me, because I had a bunch of expertise in doing work with drones, and then I was talking to them and they were like, what are the concerns about safety?
01:03:41.000And I was like, oh, the most obvious one?
01:03:43.000Someone straps a bomb to a consumer-grade drone for a couple hundred bucks and there's nothing you can do about it?
01:08:52.000And I had a lot of weird training from the US side and the Mexican side.
01:08:56.000All the people that I used to work with, which were also trained like me that speak the same level of English that I have that have the same training, same education, same experience.
01:09:04.000Those people don't didn't have the opportunities that I had.
01:09:13.000And they're working for one of the largest cartel groups on the planet right now.
01:09:17.000So they were like, basically every year they were testing and checking, checking to see if you'd been co-opted.
01:09:22.000And then who decided, like what president or what organization decided to stop?
01:09:26.000The last president was, uh, the last president went through a process of kind of changing some of those things.
01:09:32.000Again, Mexico has six years of a presidency and that just goes into a process of amnesia or everything that the last president did, even if it was good, it's bad.
01:09:41.000And we went from the far right down there, which was Felipe Calderon, which started the drug war, to a president now that invited the Venezuelan military to march on Mexican Independence Day and shout, Viva Maduro, Viva la Revolución.
01:09:56.000So that's what we're going through right now.
01:09:58.000And most of the people that I used to work with, I mean, they clearly were like, this is BS, let's just go to work for the bad guys or the good guys, depending on where you're down, right, where you are down there.
01:10:09.000You can see what this leftist Maduro stuff manifests into.
01:10:12.000I mean, this guy went to the poppy fields and said, what about our drugs?
01:10:32.000When I say normalizing things, I mean, when he leaves office, things are normal.
01:10:36.000The president going to Sinaloa and talking about supporting poppy field.
01:10:43.000plantations and and shaking hands with a known like Joel Chapa Guzman's mom and the lawyer and naming the former governor of Sinaloa the ambassador to Spain which is the the door of drugs into into Europe.
01:11:11.000Just the behavior and the people that are being invited in and the open relationship to Cuba now and Cuban intelligence being all over the country now.
01:11:24.000Biden said, quote, people will pay for horseback charge on migrants at border.
01:11:31.000So yeah, I'm sure you heard the fake news that the Border Patrol guys were riding the horses, and the photos came out, and the Democrats were like, they're whips!
01:11:39.000So then what happened is the Biden administration is like, OK, you can't use horses anymore.
01:11:42.000And now Biden's saying they're going to pay.
01:11:44.000The reason I bring this up is you were just talking about how, you know, once once the left came in, all of a sudden they were much more in favor or at least, you know, it's like implicit.
01:11:54.000So the current president down there said, abrazos no balazos, hugs not bullets.
01:12:01.000That was his whole security policy for the cartels.
01:12:03.000So whether, you know, for the U.S., whether it's intentional or not, you have Joe Biden now, based on fake news, condemning the Border Patrol guys.
01:12:12.000It's just continually weakening our security.
01:12:38.000They are completely under manned, under supported and they're trying to do a job which is stopping people from crossing the border illegally and also they're I mean, I saw somebody go out down there trying to make it about race.
01:12:53.000And just seeing, so the U.S., and again, this from my experience training law enforcement here stateside, just went through the whole Black Lives Matter corrosion, which is a corrosion.
01:13:05.000Speaking of somebody that comes from a country where police are not viewed well, this bleeds down a very dark path.
01:13:15.000People don't want to be police officers in the United States anymore.
01:13:19.000Police academies have whole generations that are just empty.
01:13:22.000There's places where they don't have police, you know, they can't pay them enough and or you can't get paid enough to work in some of these places.
01:13:28.000That leads to a void, an authority and policing void in some places.
01:13:37.000You know, Mexico comes next, you know?
01:13:40.000The corrosion of the small rules getting set to the side.
01:13:46.000Small rules get set to the side, you know, you can walk into a Target in California and just fill a bag full of stuff and just walk out, no problem, as long as it doesn't pass.
01:14:05.000and I want to wash my hands afterwards, right?
01:14:09.000It's amazing to see how it's slowly shifting.
01:14:13.000The corrosion that's come in this country as far as being against law enforcement.
01:14:18.000Again, not all law enforcement is okay.
01:14:19.000There's bad people in law enforcement.
01:14:21.000There's bad, horrible people in law enforcement in Mexico.
01:14:25.000There's people that did horrible things here in the states.
01:14:27.000There's people that are corrupt that are working for law enforcement.
01:14:29.000There's people that shouldn't be working for law enforcement here stateside that have a completely bad mindset as far as what they're doing.
01:14:37.000But what comes if you don't have a police force?
01:15:31.000If something like Portland happened, in a place where there were no police, the locals would walk out with their guns, and it would not be pretty.
01:15:39.000See, the issue is, in places like Portland, where you do have the right to keep and bear arms, more so than many other states, regular people know, if Antifa shows up with Molotov cocktails, and I defend myself, I go to prison.
01:16:07.000And I'm like, no, I think if the cop walked up to the guy and arrested him and said, you deal with it later, at the very least, you know, that would slowly start putting a stop to these things.
01:16:15.000If they started actively, you know, going where these rioters were going when they go into residential neighborhoods and stopping them from going to people's homes and threatening the residents.
01:16:25.000I was there for a night, and I'm not the smartest man alive or anything like that, but I was there for a night and I could figure out that all these people there were not from Portland, that they were all bussed in and or drove in and all carpooled in.
01:16:40.000I could tell you exactly where they parked.
01:16:42.000I could tell you where their plates were from.
01:16:43.000I could tell you where they were car surfing.
01:16:45.000I could tell you just by walking around there and hearing their conversations.
01:16:48.000I could tell you what social media they were utilizing to organize their Look at the McCloskeys, right?
01:16:58.000You can criticize them for waving the guns around or whatever, but the point is, a group of Black Lives Matter people broke into private property.
01:17:07.000And when they simply brandished their weapons on their own property, as people were on their property and said, get out, they got arrested and charged for it.
01:17:25.000People, it would not be, it would not look good.
01:17:27.000And I would not want to see what happens.
01:17:28.000But I tell you, if the cops won't actually enforce this, if the justice department, if the justice system will not hold these people to account, Eventually, the police start losing support.
01:17:39.000We start seeing things like we did, where Trump supporters and conservatives were throwing the Blue Lives Matter flag on the ground and stomping on it.
01:17:44.000And then eventually they're like, I don't care.
01:17:48.000If you're not going to protect me, you're going to ignore what they do and then come at me when I try to protect myself, like we've seen in the press numerous times.
01:18:29.000So, you go into, you know, hypotheticals and, you know, again, if somebody, like some evil entity out there wanted to do something on the border, Christmas.
01:19:19.000How often are we going to see our culture, our country, capitulate to the lies from these psychopaths who just scream random garbage when they panic?
01:19:28.000Yeah, I mean, the racism thing with one of the most Latin groups of federal police out there is pretty insane.
01:20:14.000I have a friend in Eastern Europe and it's actually a brutal conversation to be like, I would like my friend to simply visit, simply visit, you know, two weeks, come see America for once, damn near impossible.
01:20:28.000And then she's like, should I just go to Mexico?
01:20:32.000And I was like, well, I can't, you know, obviously you're joking, right?
01:20:36.000But that's the reality of like, even people in other countries are like, that's why you see people in Africa fly to Brazil and then come to Mexico because they know the border doesn't exist.
01:20:44.000It's an open joke internationally that, you know, it's a hard thing to get a visa, but it's easy to just travel to Mexico.
01:20:54.000And it's not, you don't, so that you don't even need a visa to go to Mexico.
01:20:57.000You can just violently cross the Southern border into Mexico, beat, beat federal police in Mexico, beat them up, cross the border violently.
01:21:05.000Just make it all the way through, go to the border and be welcomed on the other side.
01:21:51.000And also, we just absorbed a whole segment of the population of the Haitian migrants coming into Tijuana, which I mean, as far as our experience with them, they were pretty good.
01:22:42.000And it's amazing that, you know, the first camp they had was next to a school.
01:22:46.000They had to cull the school down because they kept getting harassed by the people there.
01:22:53.000But the Americans would come in and hand out backpacks, tents, food, clothing, and these guys were like, thank you, muchas gracias, thank you, thank you, and then you would see that at the open-air market being sold and flipped, right?
01:23:17.000Put them here on the, on the outskirts so they can get, that's what they need.
01:23:19.000That way AOC can show up and start crying at the fence, tricking a bunch of dumb people into voting away their rights and their, and their sovereignty.
01:23:25.000The last, the last caravan that showed up in Tijuana set up right on the border and right in the middle of it.
01:23:31.000And I'll post this picture up tonight.
01:23:52.000You said that in the 80s is when the little things started to become overlooked and then it led, slowly led towards.
01:23:59.000I mean, Mexico's have always been, their corruption's always been systemic there, but Yeah, I mean the true corrosion that you know that you know criminal enterprises and feeding the massive drug market in the states and the corruption that kind of produced in Mexico kind of started growing and how the corruption seeped into uncorruptible organizations like the military.
01:24:20.000Mexico had like the military was like the uncorruptible like these are these are the last defense and then you had the Zetas.
01:24:39.000We're going to use the Mexican Marines now.
01:24:41.000That's what we saw during the El Chapo raid.
01:24:43.000But now some of those guys have been arrested guarding cartel guys, you know, bodyguarding cartel guys.
01:24:49.000Mysterious stuff happening in certain parts where they control the ports.
01:24:54.000I mean, if they are incorruptible and they are the leading defense in Mexico against the cartels, why are voice fentanyl flooding the country?
01:25:02.000These guys are in control of the ports.
01:25:11.000I think a big part of it is lack of opportunity.
01:25:14.000I mean, for somebody like me, growing up in Tijuana, either it was going into work for a call center, going to work for a cartel, or going to work for the government.
01:25:25.000And after coming out of working for the government, I can't tell you the difference between working for a cartel or a government down there as far as how it was at the end.
01:25:41.000I was studying medicine when 9-11 happened and the economy just went in the toilet down there after that because nobody wanted to cross the border and have fun in Tijuana anymore.
01:25:50.000So the only opportunities were me and a few of my friends.
01:25:55.000When I grew up in Tijuana, I was like a skater kid.
01:25:58.000The first time I did any lock picking and stuff like that, now I teach that and stuff like that.
01:26:02.000The first time I did any lock picking and stuff like that, I had to break into some cartel house that had been abandoned and we wanted to skate the pool and stuff like that, right?
01:27:50.000I walk out of there, my phone's going crazy because they saw me, you know?
01:27:54.000And as soon as I got back to the group that I was with, the military showed up and they shoot out for, I don't know, like a solid 30 minutes.
01:28:31.000It's not going off to Afghanistan and doing things.
01:28:34.000It's not going off to the Middle East.
01:28:36.000It's within our homes with people that we speak the same language with.
01:28:41.000Sometimes we would kill one of them and they would kill one of us and the funerary service were at the same place.
01:28:48.000It's a different war and as far as what it produces as far as individuals and people and bad people and just The methodology that is being showcased as far as the first people that we've seen in the Western Hemisphere weaponize drones are the cartels.
01:29:07.000And that's a light that is now like ideological and methodological idea now that is out there.
01:29:17.000The first people that weaponize torture videos and stuff like that on social media were the cartels, not ISIS.
01:31:28.000Yeah, America's, like, one of the least racist places I've ever been to.
01:31:32.000You know, maybe it's hard to quantify exactly how racist a country might be.
01:31:36.000Especially, like, you go to some of the Scandinavian countries and they're, like, arguably way more racist, but some people might be, like, kinda not.
01:31:43.000But I'll tell you this, I think Sweden is super, super, super racist.
01:31:47.000Yeah, they're the kind of racist where they really don't like non-Swedish people, but they openly pretend like they're not racist, so they do a bunch of things to make it... They want to make it seem like they're not racist and are super welcoming, but then behind closed doors they're like...
01:33:50.000So when I was down in Brazil, I've been down there several times, I actually have a visa, and what I was being told by our fixer, our local guy, our friend, he's like a pothead on the headshot, he was like, There are people who are both black, and he was like, and they'll argue with each other over who's blacker.
01:34:08.000Because, like, it's bad, and they're all extremely racist, even against themselves.
01:34:13.000And he was like, it's crazy to see that people who are darker skinned will, like, they'll become a grandmother.
01:34:18.000And then there'll be a picture of her with her husband and their kids, and it's like having more and more white kids, and then their great granddaughter is, like, white, and she's like, how proud am I?
01:34:26.000That's really weird to me, how racist these people are.
01:34:45.000Not only that, but I'm like, whenever I hear one of these people say that America's racist, I'm like, have you ever spent 10 minutes in a skate park?
01:35:04.000I get... My mind gets blown when I see second generation, third generation Mexican, you know, kids here and they use the N-word more than anything.
01:35:13.000It was like, why are you using that word?
01:35:15.000That's not a... You know, again, I'm new here, so I don't know.
01:37:45.000Before we move on, I have to ask you, do you think that the reason that some of these military members and police officers use this symbol of Santa Muerte is because it takes some of the guilt of killing other people off of them?
01:37:59.000it is definitely yes they have dispensation um you and so in a place where the government is doesn't really have your back and there is no realistic um so like in the u.s you go off and fight for your country and you get back and sometimes you get flag waves on you you get you know if you wear a uniform you fly You can fly for a discount or for free and you get preferential treatment if you're a veteran and stuff like that.
01:38:58.000That's the level of just abandonment that people have down there.
01:39:02.000Uh, so I think part of that is that, you know, just seeking some sort of comfort or some sort of backing in something that is as dark and or as light as a death deity.
01:39:13.000You know, that's what I think that's a big reason why some of that is so popular and prevalent down there.
01:39:40.000Because everybody's fleeing to Florida.
01:39:42.000So if you want to go back, it actually works out really well for them because you're basically doing them a service, bringing the truck back.
01:39:47.000Otherwise, they got to go pick the truck up and then bring them back.
01:42:14.000A lot of people want me to talk about the Arizona audit and, uh, you know, obviously there's a bunch of superchats throughout the show being like, talk about it, talk about it, talk about it.
01:42:25.000It's like, I have to go through it and, like, fact check it.
01:42:29.000With a lot of stories like, um, Afghanistan.
01:42:33.000Initially, my assessment is based on the preliminary reports, and then it turns out, like, I didn't realize in the start of the Afghanistan withdrawal that we abandoned Bagram the way we did.
01:42:41.000So my assessment was, like, changed, and I was like, wait a minute.
01:42:43.000I read this Wall Street Journal article.
01:42:45.000Here's the challenge with the AZ audit.
01:42:47.000As you probably already know, the mainstream media is not going to do a fair assessment of what the details are, which means this is one of the stories, along with many other, that we actually have to have our crew dig into, and we're gonna do it.
01:43:02.000That being said, My opinion is you want to know the easiest way to make sure a Republican never wins again is convince them all you can't win.
01:43:30.000So, when you're in New York and you've got universal mail-in voting, and two little democratic activists can say, we're gonna spend, you know, an hour on one city block, they can talk to a thousand people.
01:43:42.000If a Republican wants to go to a suburban area, one city block is gonna get him, what, 25?
01:43:47.000So with universal mail-in voting, denser population areas are substantially easier for voter turnout drives.
01:43:54.000They knock on the door, did you vote yet?
01:44:02.000So I think you gotta focus on your ground game, your organizational powers, and I'll tell you this, Whatever may be going on here, I think it's demoralizing people.
01:45:23.000It's a low profile way to carry around medical equipment with you.
01:45:26.000You know, I mean, it's, it's a scary time and I'm not, you know, fear mongering, but it's a pretty good idea to have at least some basic knowledge and base and materials to stop somebody from bleeding out.
01:46:30.000Do you ever get these really arrogant people who are just like, they think they know more than you, they think they're hot stuff, and they're going to survive the apocalypse?
01:46:42.000I get some people that are preppers that prep, but they can't run a mile.
01:46:48.000I get the people that are really worried about COVID and they want to wear a gas mask when they go outside, but they would just take some vitamins and eat healthy and just run a bit.
01:47:06.000But I've actually, you know, I'd actually been on the ground in a bunch of civil unrest, civil conflict, and, like, I was in Ukraine before it erupted into, like, the separatist fighting.
01:47:15.000I was in Venezuela, which was, like, probably the scariest, where I had to flee the country.
01:47:19.000And so they made me do this training, and there was, like, a weather guy there who was, like, trying to give advice to people, and I'm just like...
01:47:27.000Like, Weatherman, you can't tell this woman what she's gonna do when she gets abducted and there's landmines.
01:47:31.000I'm sorry, you have no idea what you're talking about.
01:47:33.000One of the things that I kind of struggle with, a lot of the stuff that I do is like, I didn't go through SEER training, or I wasn't part of the American military.
01:47:42.000A lot of my teachers were, like, the first person I saw get out of handcuffs and teach me how to get out of handcuffs was a 15-year-old kid that was a meth dealer.
01:48:00.000No, just working and meeting weird people.
01:48:03.000One of the things that I find the most off-putting is people not realizing the teachers are all around us and they're not all going to wear a green beret and have been a military guy or something like that.
01:48:13.000Most of the people that know and study the craft of getting around things Those are the best conversations I have.
01:48:21.000And if I do a class and I start talking about bribing a public official, and Americans start getting like, you can do that?
01:48:48.000Just like... When I try talking to... I'll tell you this.
01:48:53.000Here's a challenge in the United States.
01:48:54.000When I was doing the heat training, hostile environment stuff, someone asked the guy running the course if women should be worried about sexual assault.
01:49:05.000And his reaction was to stutter and go, Men can get raped? Yes, men. It's like, dude, see this is
01:49:12.000the problem. In America, they can't say certain things because they get sued for
01:49:16.000harassment or treating people, you know, not like, you know, not like for violating people's rights,
01:49:25.000Yeah. When you say like, there's a reality of that women, you know, a guy will get killed and a woman will get raped.
01:49:30.000Like, when you're dealing with a lot of these places around the world.
01:49:32.000And then when I have to deal with stuff like being in Egypt, what the security company is going to allow a woman to do versus what they're going to allow a man to do, you'd probably have every feminist in this country screaming, it's not fair.
01:49:42.000There was a story about, I could be getting this wrong, so just keep that in mind.
01:49:46.000A reporter with Vice was out, I think in Algeria.
01:49:50.000And she was told not to go to the soccer stadium because women aren't allowed and she said, I'm going to do it anyway.
01:49:55.000And she got assaulted and then sued vice over it.
01:49:57.000Even though the security people are like, you can't do that.
01:50:08.000They don't realize that in Egypt, it's like you walk in the wrong neighborhood and like, you're not covered up and you're not here with your man.
01:50:21.000Also, it's like seeing Americans in Mexico doing like, oh yeah, just this guy tried to push me in a van and I just stabbed him in the face.
01:50:27.000I'm just going to wait for the police here.
01:51:00.000That's my way of treating them differently.
01:51:03.000Now, to be fair, though, we did in our training do a scenario where we got surrounded at gunpoint and all the women were brought into a barn.
01:51:11.000And then the trainers told them and start screaming, you know, bloody murder.
01:51:14.000And and then the guys outside are laughing, saying, I think you know what we're doing and stuff like that, because he was trying to make that point.
01:51:33.000I mean, human rights are a thing in Mexico, but usually they only involve people that are, you know, have enough money to kind of put them on their side.
01:51:43.000We support a small media group that we work with called Demoler.
01:51:47.000It's on Instagram if you want to check it out.
01:51:48.000Basically just cartel related news out of Mexico and it's all verified by myself and other people that work around it.
01:51:55.000There's a guy that stole a few candy bars from the store and got placed into a process, a legal process, for three candy bars.
01:52:06.000And in the same vein, there's a police commander that was involved in the massacre of 135 people or something like that, that is currently, you know, he just had the lawyer up and there's no problem, right?
01:53:45.000One day you're at home and you get a knock on the door and it's a bunch of cops being like, we're here to seize your firearms, your weapons.
01:54:30.000They show up to a guy's house, knock on the door, then the guy answers the door with his gun, which he legally owns, and they say, we're taking your guns, and he says, yeah, for my cold dead hands or whatever.
01:54:40.000They fought and the cops killed the guy.
01:54:50.000You get Republicans whose position is, I'll compromise Democrats, and Democrats say, give me everything or else.
01:54:56.000So instead of Republicans being like, we want to repeal the NFA and all gun restrictions, they say, we're okay with some gun control, and then you end up moving further and further into the gun control territory.
01:55:07.000As somebody that I'm from here, I'm from Mexico, of course, and there's a part in the Constitution that allows for the possession and self-defense with guns in Mexico.
01:55:21.000But there's a single federal firearms law that just that's that what deals with everything everything firearms in Mexico.
01:55:29.000You're not legally allowed to buy a gun outside of the normal processes, but it You know, New Year happens and everybody's shooting guns up in the air.
01:56:37.000I mean it's a small, it's a very small community and a lot of the weapons that they have are not the best weapons.
01:56:43.000A lot of them were stolen from the local police armory and a lot of them are just hunting rifles or things that have been trafficked there like decades ago.
01:56:51.000The reason they're not, they're being left alone, it's just too much of a hassle and also they're too much in the public eye right now.
01:58:46.000I go to somewhere like France or the UK and it's like, okay, there's racism.
01:58:50.000No, you go to Sweden, and it's like extremely ethnically homogenous.
01:58:55.000They pretend to not be racist, but boy, are they racist.
01:58:59.000I'm telling you, man, I'm like in a car with a guy driving into a black neighborhood, and he's shaking and freaking out, being like, don't make me do this, man, and we're like...
01:59:49.000And I said, you know, I, I took it with humor because it's humorous to me, you know?
01:59:56.000But realistically, a lot of the specific hate that I've gotten in this country or life specific, like, Discrimination has been by some of the members of my own community, Mexicans.
02:00:07.000Second generation, third generation people that call themselves Latinx for some reason, you know?
02:02:54.000So, some people believe stupid things, and it drives them to do something.
02:02:58.000But it's not like their behavior isn't predictable.
02:03:01.000What I mean is, if you're going to an area where you know ISIS is dominant, and you know what their ideology is, and you know what they're looking for, okay, well then, you're probably gonna be watching for that, and you gotta be careful.
02:03:10.000But I was like, especially with going to like Venezuela and Brazil, South America stuff, I'm like, I know what a general idea of these people's motives, especially when it comes to like gangs, cartels, making money, running a business.
02:03:22.000You don't interfere, you don't bother them, you mind your own business, you're probably fine.
02:03:25.000My favorite though is when we were in Venezuela and they told me like a very common thing, one of the most common things is express kidnappings.
02:03:33.000They'll pull up, they'll throw you in, they'll drive you to an ATM, say, take out your money, and then, you know, they'll ditch you or whatever.
02:03:39.000But one guy told me a story where he got express kidnapped, and the guys are armed, they're putting a gun at him, and they're like, they, you know, drive him to an ATM, they're like, take out all the money, and he's like, I only have a couple, you know, hundred, whatever, and then they're like, take it out, they take it out, and then they're like, get in the car, and he's like, okay, and they're like, do you want a ride, man?
02:03:56.000Is there somewhere we can drop you off?
02:03:57.000He's like, yeah, I gotta go to work, and they're like, yeah, no problem, let's know where, he's like, yeah, it's around here, thanks, man, and they're like, alright, have a good one, dude.
02:04:03.000Like, it's the craziest story, you know?
02:04:05.000You think that, like, but after they get their money, they're just like, we'll drop you off now.
02:05:37.000If you know like what they're doing and why they're doing it, then it's like they're not going to randomly do things for the most part, right?
02:05:43.000They don't want to put risk themselves.
02:05:45.000They want to get something out of you.
02:05:47.000So understand the motives of the person to the best of your ability and then try and navigate the situations.
02:05:52.000And that means, like, I had someone try to pickpocket me in Spain.
02:05:57.000But I'm not about to pick a fight with a guy who's probably got friends around the corner operating as their backup.
02:06:02.000He comes up, tries to grab my phone, fails, and then I just back away and avoid the situation.
02:06:07.000Because what they do is, they'll have someone waiting around the corner or someone sitting down who's their spotter.
02:06:11.000In case a fight breaks out, then they jump you.
02:06:13.000So it's like, he failed, it's better that he's like, my risk is too high right now, I'm gonna walk.
02:06:17.000And I'm like, and I'm not gonna get into a fight with him.
02:06:19.000Yeah, part of that normal is a fluid concept lesson that I give people is, you know, I can walk around here with my iPhone, but somewhere else that's going to be a meal for a few weeks for somebody.
02:06:51.000Every now and then I do security contracting jobs and the first thing I do is I go to the parking attendant, go to the major D, or go to the guy that knows everything.
02:07:00.000And I give him a phone, a smartphone that's worth probably like $150 or $200 on eBay.
02:07:07.000And I get the best intel on the planet there.
02:08:39.000But, hey man, it's been a blast, and for everybody else, thanks so much for hanging out, and we will see you all at the Cast Castle vlog over at youtube.com slash castcastle, or timcast.com.