The defense files a motion for a mistrial in the Kyle Rittenhouse case, and the judge rules that the prosecution has committed misconduct or error to such a degree that there can t be a fair trial. We also hear from Anna Kasparian of the Young Turks, who admits she was wrong.
00:00:28.000When the state brought in Gage Grosskreutz, who testified that he was only fired upon when he pointed a weapon at Kyle Rittenhouse, I thought it was just, this is too nuts!
00:00:38.000Today, the defense filed a motion for a mistrial with prejudice, meaning that the prosecution has committed misconduct or error to such a degree, there can't be a fair trial, and because of this, they should not be allowed to retry Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:00:53.000The judge actually said, I will take the motion under advisement, yelled at the prosecutor on more than one occasion, legit, literally yelled at him, and said, if one more thing happens, So here's what we might see.
00:01:06.000We probably won't, but there's people speculating about a directed verdict in which the judge could just say, as a matter of law, Kyle Rittenhouse is not guilty.
00:01:13.000I'm not convinced that'll happen, but hey, I'm not a lawyer, I have no idea.
00:01:16.000The other thing that could happen is that the defense could come in in the morning with a full motion filed for a mistrial with prejudice, and this was over specifically the prosecutors bringing up evidence the judge had ruled would not be allowed And the prosecution questioned Kyle Rittenhouse because of his right to remain silent.
00:01:33.000It was such an egregious violation, the judge called it a grave constitutional violation, and actually yelled at the prosecutor saying it's a matter- I mean, he's yelling.
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00:03:37.000Dude, an hour ago, I was taking a shower thinking about Sausalito, thinking if you're ever going to go to San Francisco, just go to Sausalito and get a view of San Francisco across the bay.
00:04:01.000Yes, I am excited at the prospect of this brunch.
00:04:04.000I do like Luke's shirt, that's very thought-provoking, and I wanted to say that I hope that you guys are all keeping the witnesses for this trial in your thoughts, as we know people who are going on the stand, and it is very stressful, so keep them in your thoughts and prayers.
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00:04:25.000I think it is really remarkable that guys that we know, people we talk to, people we hang out with, our colleagues and friends are in the middle of this amazing trial, which is having such an impact and could have even more of an impact, not only on Kyle's life, but on the nation at large.
00:04:38.000I was listening to Crowder earlier today and he's 100% right when he talks about how this trial could be any one of us.
00:04:44.000It could be any conservative, anybody who decided that they needed to try to defend themselves, which is terrifying.
00:04:52.000I'm genuinely concerned about what happens with this case, so I'm excited to get into it.
00:04:56.000You know, I do wonder, like, how nationally prevalent is the case?
00:04:59.000Like I asked my kids about it, and they're like, yeah, we're not even talking about it in school or anything.
00:05:03.000But you would think it's a guy who felt like he needed to protect and defend his city, or like one of his like hometown cities.
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00:07:53.000In the trial, I'll give you the gist real quick.
00:07:55.000The prosecution said, evidence that occurred, you call it evidence, I don't know, an event that occurred four months after the night in question is not admissible because it has nothing to do with him defending himself.
00:08:10.000The prosecutors started bringing it up anyway, and the judge got mad angry, he got pissed.
00:08:15.000But the craziest moment was when the prosecution asked Kyle Rittenhouse, why haven't you told this story before until tonight?
00:08:22.000And then he says, you waited until everyone testified so you could tailor your testimony, and then it was boom, objection, the judge goes off.
00:08:32.000He's like, what do you think you're doing?
00:08:40.000He's like, you're an experienced trial prosecutor.
00:08:44.000When the second violation came up, he snapped.
00:08:47.000He's like, I can't believe, I was astonished that you would dare bring up something like that.
00:08:51.000It's a matter of basic law for 40, 50 years.
00:08:54.000And then the prosecutor's like, you know, when it came to the question of the evidence he was bringing in, the prosecutor's like, you open the door, your honor.
00:09:07.000And here's where it gets really crazy.
00:09:08.000I didn't think it was going to happen.
00:09:10.000The defense said that if this persisted, they would file a motion for a mistrial with prejudice, meaning that the prosecutors erred or attempted to break the rules to prejudice the jury against Rittenhouse to such a degree he would never have a fair trial and that the judge would have to dismiss with prejudice, meaning they could never file these same charges again.
00:09:31.000Surprisingly, When they put Kyle in the stand, he starts crying, he's breaking down.
00:09:38.000When they come back, the craziest thing, the defense actually files the motion asking a judge for a mistrial with prejudice.
00:09:45.000This is when the judge starts getting into it with the prosecutor.
00:09:47.000He says, I will take the motion under advisement, and then essentially says if there's one more violation to the prosecutor.
00:09:55.000So people are speculating now saying what might happen is that the judge, and the judge has actually said this, something to this effect, he doesn't want there to be a circumstance in which he intervenes and shuts down the court proceedings.
00:10:08.000He wants the jury to be able to come to their findings.
00:10:11.000But there's speculation, and I don't know how valuable the speculation is, that there could be a directed verdict, meaning that as a matter of law, the charges against Kyle Rittenhouse Are impossible to get.
00:10:22.000When you had Kyle Rittenhouse, according to the state's witnesses, himself, and everyone else, he was yelling, friendly, and fleeing the scene.
00:10:30.000You can't get intentional homicide on that.
00:10:32.000But the judge didn't rule it, and people are saying maybe he wants to see if the jury will rule correctly.
00:10:47.000You know, one of the things I keep thinking about and I've seen some other people ask about it is this court case is being televised and it's clear that the judge is at least neutral.
00:11:01.000He's not clearly got a left-wing bias.
00:11:03.000How many times across the nation, over and over and over again, are prosecutors doing these things that are unconstitutional and getting away with it?
00:11:12.000And even just having the judge basically on their side as a way to put people away that they think are political, you know, sort of on the other side of the political spectrum.
00:11:21.000I'm sure from what I've heard from Julie Kelly and other people covering the January 6th stuff, that if the judge, this judge here, the Rittenhouse judge was there in D.C.
00:11:31.000or wherever they're trying these January 6th stuff, That it would be going a lot differently.
00:11:36.000It brings up, you know, the idea of like maybe every single court case should be televised so that we can see every single thing that's going on so that these people can be watched.
00:11:44.000It's kind of scary to me to think that people, that guy, an experienced prosecutor who clearly knows about the Constitution.
00:11:49.000I've read from other lawyers that this is a subject that comes up a couple of times in law school, plus it's on the bar exam.
00:11:55.000You can't, you can't bring up the fact or use it against them that the guy didn't speak after his arrest.
00:12:00.000And yet there he did, as the judge said, brazenly violating this guy's constitutional rights in the letter and in the spirit of the whole thing.
00:12:07.000How often is this happening all across the country?
00:12:10.000This is a prosecutor who knows he has the mob, the rioters, and the press on his side.
00:12:16.000And even after all of these grave constitutional violations, that's what the judge said, the media doesn't cover it.
00:12:23.000The media just says, like, Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:12:26.000They frame everything to the worst degree for Kyle.
00:12:28.000Kyle cries on the stand because he probably killed the guys.
00:12:54.000I'll say they falsely frame look I wasn't there obviously I wasn't there
00:12:57.000But that was one night that I watched as many streams as I possibly could I watched BG. I watched Richie
00:13:02.000I watched one guy even aggregate like three or four streams into one
00:13:06.000So like I was there when that guy became the n-word guy remember like not there
00:13:11.000But like I was watching at the gas Oh, yeah, Rosenbaum
00:13:13.000Yeah when Rosenbaum became we were just calling him the n-word
00:13:15.000guy because we didn't know who he was because he was running around screaming the
00:13:18.000N-word he was obviously agitated. He was looking for conflict. I'm gonna get you
00:13:21.000I'm gonna do this blah blah blah blah blah and like the people in the press and popular interpretation
00:13:28.000Just did not experience that the way that the guys on the ground obviously did, that Rittenhouse obviously did, and then those of us who were watching it intently actually experienced it that night.
00:13:36.000Yeah, framing is everything because you could take certain facts and you could omit some of them, you could highlight some of them, and you know there's different stories being told, but the fact that this case is being live-streamed I think is absolutely amazing.
00:13:48.000I think we should live-stream all of criminal court cases just so we could actually get An unbiased point of view to what's actually happening here but it was kind of wild seeing the state prosecutor literally argue more with the judge interrupt the judge more than he did the defense.
00:14:02.000I was like what's what's going on here there was a number of times the judge snapped on the state prosecutor who looked like he was a deer in headlights for many of the.
00:14:25.000There's, you know, talk about some of these people who were shot, their criminal past, their criminal history.
00:14:30.000People are just selecting and picking whatever fits their narrative, but truly seeing this live raw unedited I think is extremely important and I think we should normalize this as much as we can Yeah, I mean aside from being on the ground.
00:14:43.000I watched it live for multiple streams.
00:14:44.000I've interviewed Richie and BG on the scene I was just listening to the podcast that we did with them back in the summertime.
00:14:51.000I it's one of these things where like I have such almost first-hand experience in New York. I wasn't there,
00:14:58.000but like to see the discrepancy between what happened that night, talking to eyewitnesses,
00:15:02.000watching the trial, and then seeing what's happening in the headlines. Like how,
00:15:06.000where did they even get the white supremacist and this and that? I mean, they didn't even
00:15:22.000And they're not getting fact-checked at all.
00:15:23.000There was a New York lawyer account with like a quarter million followers who tweeted, I have not been following this in my new detail, but I think the fact remains Kyle Rittenhouse crossed state lines with an assault rifle to go to a protest.
00:15:35.000And I'm like, The prosecutor has charges against Dominic Black for supplying a weapon in Wisconsin to Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:15:42.000That's a substantial portion of the criminal proceedings out of Kenosha.
00:15:47.000These people don't even understand what the prosecutor is going for in this.
00:15:51.000They just made something up, they all tweet about it, they don't fact check, they don't watch the trial, and then they claim they did.
00:15:56.000I've been sitting here every morning with it on livestream, on TV.
00:16:00.000And then just like reading all the legal analysis from like Raketa Law and from Andrew Branca, and a plethora of other, you know, legal analyses, watching all these live streams.
00:16:09.000And I'm not gonna pretend to be a lawyer and know, right?
00:16:11.000All of the nitty-gritty details in the law, the defense is citing various laws that were violated by the prosecutor.
00:16:16.000I can just tell you the judge screamed at the prosecutor for a grave constitutional violation.
00:16:22.000He said, he was like, you're on the borderline, you may be over it.
00:16:32.000I was listening to Rekheda's stream and it was fantastic Rekheda had 70,000 viewers on his stream. It's really really nice
00:16:39.000Almost like Tim Kast. Oh yeah, close. I mean, but that's way bigger than we've been in this past year
00:16:43.000I mean and so their commentary is fantastic and I don't know who it was, but they made the comment that
00:16:47.000The judge doesn't it doesn't he wants to prove that these trials can happen that the process can work
00:16:55.000And as soon as I heard that, I realized if the judge does not declare a mistrial with prejudice, he proves that prosecution can violate your constitutional rights, prejudice the jury by admitting evidence that was deemed inadmissible, and the judge will allow it to happen.
00:17:10.000But if he has this dueling incentive of a wanting the jury to rule on the facts and perhaps come back with a not guilty verdict at the same time as wanting to protect his constitutional rights and the process and such, and maybe then go to this direct verdict, that's a tough one for the judge to actually manage, isn't it?
00:17:46.000The reaction is going to be absolutely insane.
00:17:48.000That would probably be the worst case scenario.
00:17:49.000And then, I mean, the Chicago Police Department already put out a notice saying for officers that their leave is not Going to be approved because they want all officers on the force because they're expecting civil unrest to happen in major cities.
00:18:04.000So already there's a lot of threats, there's a lot of hyperbolic language on social media that's not getting fact-checked, that's not getting corrected, that's being escalated, that's being promoted.
00:18:12.000So this is building up to another recipe of disaster, especially with the mainstream media putting fuel on the fire in this entire situation, blatantly lying about it.
00:19:04.000I mean, if you grow up and your biggest goal in life is to become the prosecutor in Kenosha, Wisconsin, does that mean that you're the A-team prosecutor?
00:19:12.000No offense to Kenosha or small towns around the country or anything, but maybe this is just standard, you know, incompetence that we see.
00:20:18.000This is also an interesting point, though.
00:20:20.000Many people thought it was crazy they put Kyle Rittenhouse on the stand.
00:20:24.000There were a few points he made that could not have been admitted as evidence unless he testified, and that's why people think maybe that's why they put him on the stand.
00:20:31.000One was that Rosenbaum had threatened his life on two occasions.
00:20:35.000And that he knew that the Zeminsky guy was armed and he testified he heard the gunshot as he was running and turned.
00:20:43.000What the prosecutor is trying to do is falsely frame as much as possible.
00:20:48.000Now I noticed a lot of people asking why the defense wasn't objecting to the insane questions of the prosecutor.
00:20:56.000Some have suggested the prosecutor's line of questioning were so absurd, it's prejudicing the jury against him.
00:21:03.000He kept asking the same question over, he asked the same question like five times.
00:21:06.000And every time Kyle would answer him, he'd say, I'll ask you again.
00:21:10.000When you were going, he was doing things like, you wanted to kill those people.
00:21:15.000And Kyle goes, I didn't want to kill anybody.
00:21:28.000He was trying to insinuate that video games are akin to killing people No, he said don't you play Call of Duty with your friend Dominic black and he's like I mean maybe sometimes and he goes and isn't the point of that game to take these rifles and kill people and then he was like Video games aren't real life And then he started talking about AR-15s being prominent in the video game, and Kyle was like, well, there's a lot of other firearms.
00:21:52.000There's pistols and shotguns in there as well.
00:21:54.000But he was like, but AR-15s are the most prominent ones.
00:21:58.000And a lot of people were saying that it was almost as if the term and concept of an AR-15 was on trial, since how much it was brought up, how much it was talked about.
00:22:14.000They say, Kyle Rittenhouse testified Wednesday that he acted in self-defense when he fatally shot a man who had thrown a plastic bag at him and chased him last year in Kenosha, Wisconsin, in what is likely to be the pivotal testimony of his homicide trial.
00:22:29.000But in cross-examination, Rittenhouse said that he knew the man, Joseph Rosenbaum, was unarmed when he ran at the teenager.
00:22:35.000Rittenhouse said he pointed his rifle at Rosenbaum in an attempt to deter him, adding that he knew pointing a rifle at someone is dangerous.
00:22:59.000What CNN is doing is they're taking statements from the prosecution that Kyle either passively agreed with or said, I guess, and they're acting like he himself said it.
00:23:08.000Quote, he was chasing me. I was alone. He threatened to kill me earlier that night.
00:23:12.000I didn't want to have to shoot him. I pointed it at him because he kept running at me and I didn't
00:23:16.000want him to chase me. You see, they choose, they select all of the worst possible quotes from
00:23:22.000He said that he feared Rosenbaum, who did not touch his body at all that night, would take his gun and kill people, omitting the fact that the, it was, I believe it was the medical forensics, medical examiner who said Rosenbaum's hand was on the gun.
00:23:34.000And Kyle Rittenhouse said, he grabbed my gun.
00:23:37.000The prosecution then said, but he didn't touch your body.
00:23:42.000And now CNN takes that to falsely frame exactly what happened.
00:23:46.000Let me pull up this New York Times real quick.
00:23:47.000They say, key moments from Kyle Rittenhouse's testimony.
00:23:49.000One of the things they say, Thomas Binger, the lead prosecutor, pressed Mr. Rittenhouse about why he aimed a rifle at Joseph Rosenbaum, who had run toward him but was unarmed.
00:23:59.000You wanted him to get the message from you that if you come any closer, I'm going to kill you.
00:24:03.000That's why you pointed the gun at him.
00:24:05.000Mr. Rittenhouse said he did not want to kill Mr. Rosenbaum, though he believed Rosenbaum was trying to disarm him.
00:24:10.000Quote, if I would have let Mr. Rosenbaum take my firearm from me.
00:24:14.000He would have used it, and killed me with it, and probably killed more people.
00:24:20.000So respect to the New York Times for putting that quote in right at the top.
00:26:09.000But we'll be nice about when they do bad jobs.
00:26:12.000Well, they should not remain in those positions if they're that bad, but the next degree is like CNN.
00:26:17.000Falsely framing, cherry-picking quotes, and manipulating the narrative, or NPR claiming that Grosskreutz testified his hands were in the air when he was shot, when he testified to the defense that it was only after he pointed a gun at Rittenhouse.
00:26:47.000Jeffrey Toobin, if you don't know who he is, he's the guy who spanked it to his coworkers on Zoom.
00:26:51.000And he was on CNN and he literally said, quote, Kyle is an idiot, which I think is just I mean, I mean, that's the type of level of commentary you expect from CNN.
00:27:02.000But still, even when it when it when it happens, it's still surprising to see it as that blatantly out there right in front of your face, because Truly what they're doing is a huge disservice and people who are paying attention watching the trial are getting a totally different perspective than people who of course are just editorializing and commenting about it like Tubin was.
00:27:22.000I think Kyle had a hard time on the stand.
00:27:24.000He answered a lot of questions very very well so the prosecution When the defense was doing the direct with Kyle Rittenhouse, Kyle, of course, you know, he's probably working this out with the defense, answered the questions, he did a really good job, he explained, you know, why he was there, what his goals were.
00:27:42.000When it came to cross-examination with the prosecutor, the prosecutor was just badgering him and badgering him, and caught him up in a few instances, and now the New York Times says, Mr. Rittenhouse struggled to give clear answers to questions about why he brought his gun as he ran towards the car lot with a fire extinguisher.
00:27:58.000The event that immediately preceded the shooting of Mr. Rosenbaum.
00:28:01.000I'm watching the testimony, and one of the questions he asked was, after the protesters cleared away from this area, why did you walk directly in this direction instead of going around them?
00:28:12.000And I'm like, that's a question that can only be asked in hindsight.
00:28:16.000And Kyle didn't have a good answer because he never thought about it and he's on the spot.
00:28:20.000And that's why it was a huge risk to put him on the stand because that question is garbage, nonsensical.
00:28:25.000He was like, why did you have your gun?
00:28:37.000And it's just like, Kyle didn't have good answers for this.
00:28:40.000But I think he's 18, he's not experienced, and this is why it's a risk to put him on the stand.
00:28:46.000If he was sharper, if he was quicker, you know, he could have said something like, Cause there was rioters and arsonists and people doing violence all over the place?
00:28:55.000Because when you go out on the streets for any reason, you're safer with another person regardless of whether or not there's a riot or a protest.
00:29:01.000So many of these questions strike me as being in the same vein of why did you wear that miniskirt out at night, young lady?
00:29:09.000So one of the issues was when he was asking Kyle, like, why did you bring a gun?
00:29:13.000It's like, because someone might attack me.
00:29:38.000And Kyle very quickly and very, very on point, sharp said, I thought I needed to bring protection, but I didn't think I would need to use it.
00:30:11.000I have literally never heard that in my life.
00:30:14.000It's a debate tactic where you throw as much garbage at someone so that they look like they can't answer the question properly.
00:30:20.000So instead of asking a question in a debate like, is 2 plus 2 4?
00:30:24.000You go, look, 2 plus 2 equals 5, and 2 plus 2 equals 6, and 3 minus 7 is 22, and you know it's 22, and now we have 7 minus 3 is 4, and your opponent goes, oh, wait, wait, what did you say?
00:31:10.000And, you know, if you're a state prosecutor, they're going to do everything in their power.
00:31:13.000They're going to take as much time as they want to, of course, try to beat up the witness, beat up the person being questioned, and try to literally break him.
00:31:25.000That's a tactic used by many people in cross-examinations.
00:31:28.000Keep berating him, keep beating him, keep asking him the questions to see maybe it's an interrogation tactic too to keep asking the same question but in different formats.
00:31:36.000Sure, and you start off by asking him something that you know is an affirmative.
00:31:43.000And you get them in the habit of saying yes.
00:31:44.000I have given testimony under oath a number of times, depositions in court and whatnot, And with some lawyers, you know, in my mind, I know where they're going and I can answer honestly and still sort of, you know, screw with them and win the game.
00:32:04.000That has got to be an extraordinarily stressful circumstance.
00:32:07.000There's actually, there was an amazing point where they freeze frame a moment when he had, when Gage Grosskreutz was attacking him.
00:32:17.000They freeze frame it, and in the still, Rittenhouse's gun is pointed forward towards the legs of Gage Grosskreutz, whose hands are up, and then he's like, he's not pointing a weapon at you, but you're pointing a weapon at him.
00:32:30.000And then Kyle Rittenhouse says, it's a freeze frame, I believe if you play the video you'll see I'm actually lowering the weapon.
00:33:02.000But the point is, that's what abusers do.
00:33:05.000They know that they can ask you the question 20 times until you finally get confused and say what they need, and then they can put that on the record and then go to the jury and say, remember when he testified X?
00:33:15.000It's like, yeah, if you ask the same question 50 times and confused him, that's a tactic.
00:33:22.000The crazy thing, I'll say it again, was when the defense actually stated to the judge that the prosecutors either have forgotten the rulings of the judge or are purposefully trying to trigger a mistrial because they know they have no case and they don't want this to go before the jury.
00:33:36.000The defense actually said that to the judge.
00:33:40.000Now what does it mean when they've, can the judge, and we're not lawyers, but can the judge receive a motion and not rule on it?
00:33:47.000So, one of the things the judge said, uh, they wrapped up, uh, about, I think, like, um, Eastern Time, 5.40 or so.
00:33:54.000The judge was actually contemplating bringing another witness, but he said, it's a little late, you know, why don't we, uh, you know, come back tomorrow, first thing in the morning, we'll dismiss the jury.
00:34:04.000And he said to the defense, I'll get you my preliminary.
00:34:20.000You're better off, you know, listening to lawyer commentary.
00:34:23.000That's just what the judge said about a preliminary ruling on it.
00:34:26.000I'm crossing my fingers and I hope we have this much attention on the Ghislaine Maxwell case, which is going to be starting in a little bit.
00:34:32.000So I'm like, please, please, let's keep up this kind of judicial attention on such important issues.
00:34:39.000I was thinking that she was actually hooking up with a bunch of those people that would come to the Epstein's place.
00:34:45.000Well, there's a lot of very serious allegations around her, but I don't want to deviate too much from this particular case.
00:34:51.000We're sitting here, we're criticizing the media, and there's someone in the media who deserves some respect, and people are not going to want to accept it, but we're people of principle.
00:35:14.000I think the Young Turks have been very unfair to me.
00:35:17.000I think they've lied about me on more than one occasion.
00:35:19.000Cenk Uygur screamed at me at Politicon for no reason.
00:35:23.000I've known the guy for years, and I politely asked him, like, hey, you guys put up a smear piece on Dave Rubin, but, like, my name's, like, in the thumbnail in the middle.
00:35:32.000All of that aside, if you recognize that you're wrong and you correct it, I will give you the respect you deserve.
00:35:38.000Because if we still, you know, if someone comes out and says, you know, I bought into this false narrative on cow retinas, which is what Ana Kasparian did, and then we refuse to accept their acknowledgment, you only encourage them to keep doing bad.
00:35:50.000Mm. We tell them thank you for, for saying the right thing with, with respect. And hopefully
00:35:55.000they continue to do the right thing. Do the research, looking at these tweets from people,
00:35:59.000they keep saying crossing state lines with a gun, crossing state lines with a gun. They keep saying
00:36:05.000assault rifle, assault rifle wrong. These people have not done any, any research into this at all.
00:36:15.000And if they do, I'll give them the respect they deserve.
00:36:17.000Well, that's big that she came out and corrected her statement.
00:36:20.000Because if we remember, I mean, the mainstream media, especially MSNBC, they were calling Kyle a domestic terrorist, a mass murderer.
00:36:26.000They were using extremely hyperbolic language in order to kind of inflame this situation.
00:36:32.000There's people trying to make this about race.
00:36:34.000And again, this has nothing to do with any of that.
00:36:37.000But when it comes to this kind of salacious action, someone actually saying, hey, I was actually wrong here is very big because the mainstream media doubled down, tripled down, and they're still trying to ignore a lot of important facts in this case.
00:36:50.000They didn't know what happened, but they still were able to declare definitely domestic terrorists, definitely a mass murderer.
00:36:55.000Again, we're still finding out all the details of the case here, and the picture portrayed here is totally different.
00:37:14.000He tweeted, I'm paraphrasing, how come all of these centrists are so much smarter than me?
00:37:19.000And I thought it was really funny because he's being sarcastic, he's saying they're not.
00:37:24.000But I realized that's the attitude that many of these establishment Democrat types and leftists have, where they don't actually read the news, they don't know what they're talking about, but they're arrogant enough to get online and say these things, and there are tribalist individuals who are willing to retweet it because it makes them feel good inside.
00:37:43.000But when you come out and say, assault rifle, when literally not a single person in Kenosha had an assault rifle, not a single person, I'm not gonna play stupid semantic games.
00:37:54.000They meant long gun, not assault rifle.
00:37:58.000But saying that is factually and legally wrong, and they don't bother to do a Google search.
00:38:18.000Well, you know, I was thinking that a lot of these people's perceptions on this are prejudiced from the actions that Facebook and GoFundMe took very early on, right?
00:38:26.000So if Facebook, if Facebook, where grandma shares pictures of her cats, Tells me that Rittenhouse is clearly guilty and you get suspended.
00:38:36.000They remember the details, but they did ban and censor some elements about this and GoFundMe definitely took down his fundraiser.
00:38:42.000Well, then it must be true because Facebook is a benign entity where my pictures of my grandkids are getting likes from all of our cousins.
00:38:50.000Social media took people down for talking about facts of this case.
00:38:56.000People were prevented from having a discussion what was going on here.
00:39:00.000We only got mainstream media dribble and assertions, and then everyone else left talking about this was scared of being targeted and taken down.
00:39:08.000There's people demonetized, there's people who lost their channels, there's people who were eviscerated and deleted, unpersoned, because they were discussing the facts here.
00:39:16.000There was a really good tweet from the Libertarian Party.
00:39:18.000I think it may have been of New Hampshire.
00:39:24.000One was from a leftist who said that Kyle Rittenhouse was a white supremacist who was hunting down civil rights protesters, which is a lie.
00:39:32.000And the other tweet said, based on the evidence in this trial, it's clear that Kyle was acting in self-defense.
00:39:56.000These people built careers off intentionally misleading, and this has been the MO of the establishment for the past, I mean, maybe for longer than we realize, but you get Russiagate.
00:40:10.000They accused Trump of doing what they literally did.
00:40:13.000The Clintons and the Democrats had more ties to Russia and this manipulation and lies than Trump ever did, and they put up fake news and the media helped them.
00:40:21.000Now you get Sean King and there was that time he falsely accused that cop of abusing that woman or whatever.
00:40:27.000There's a video he put out where he claimed Proud Boys had gone out and done something that Proud Boys weren't even involved in.
00:40:48.000I could be wrong about that, but it's my understanding, at the very least, that he was a paid political operative, and even leftists criticized him for it.
00:40:57.000You have a massive propaganda machine pumping out lies, making money.
00:41:05.000They know they have to accuse us to deflect.
00:41:08.000So they'll say, when we pull up video or we pull up news articles and challenge them and show you what's going on in the trial.
00:41:15.000The other day we played the actual video from MSNBC and in the trial to disprove their lies, they'll claim we're the ones who are manipulating people.
00:41:22.000When Brian Stelter tells people, don't watch the propaganda, come to us.
00:41:26.000When I think it was Cuomo when he said, you're not legally allowed to read WikiLeaks, only we can.
00:41:31.000Anyone who tells you not to seek out information is manipulating you.
00:41:50.000Man, this is one reason why you gotta be in good shape, guys, because you need stamina to withstand this constant barrage of lies, manipulation, disinformation.
00:42:01.000If you are weak, if you're physically weak, if you're mentally, emotionally, spiritually weak, You're just going to fall victim.
00:42:08.000You're just going to be led right off the cliff away from the truth and into ways that are going to end up harming you in the long run if you follow all of the mainstream narratives.
00:42:16.000Now, I agree with Tim on some points here, especially when it comes to seeing what the larger media landscape actually looks like.
00:42:22.000But remember, after watching the mainstream media, remember to squeegee clean your third eye and try to decompress.
00:42:31.000Because seriously, there's a lot of trauma-based mind control and a lot of psychological tricks and dirty tricks used by the mainstream media.
00:42:38.000It's absolutely just... When you watch it, it's like watching another reality.
00:42:45.000And truly, you have to be very careful with what they say because you have to fact-check everything.
00:42:49.000And usually when you do, even with basic things that you think are common, you're shocked and surprised by just simply trying to look at the evidence yourself, what they're saying, and what the actual truth of the reality is.
00:43:01.000The difference is so stark that it's difficult to accept sometimes.
00:43:04.000And you think to yourself, nah, that can't be possibly right.
00:43:11.000And then when you think about what we're just witnessing in real time right now, and then you just think about all of written history, and then it's just like, oh God.
00:43:20.000When we had, we had Steve Hilton on the other day, and when we were showing the video of that guy on MSNBC, I don't know his name, and he was like, Gage Grosskreutz testified that his hands were up when he was shot, and then I play the video where the defense is like, it wasn't until you pointed the gun at Kyle Rittenhouse that he fired on you, and he goes, correct.
00:43:39.000He was like, no, like, how could they just say that?
00:43:43.000And I'm like, the videos published after the testimony, the articles, even if, even if the article came out right before that testimony and they rushed it, they haven't corrected it.
00:43:54.000And he was just like, I can't believe they would outright and overtly lie like that.
00:44:08.000Aaron Danielson, and nicknamed Jay, right?
00:44:10.000And there was a guy who filmed it live, who was just allegedly Strolling along the street and happened to pick up the entire thing on video, right?
00:44:19.000So I got in touch with the guy and I interviewed him and I went through it frame by frame by frame and asked him all the questions and then I asked him why he was going to the protest and he says, oh, my daughter got me into going to these things.
00:45:04.000And a guy, I put it right in front of him on the website, everything.
00:45:08.000And he still could not believe that he was supporting an organization that was against his whole raison d'etre.
00:45:15.000It always being a dad and leading a family drives me nuts when people say I can't believe it when something happens
00:45:21.000Especially watch sports announcers. Oh, we caught the catch.
00:45:23.000I can't believe it like dude believe it it happens Stop telling yourself. You can't believe what's right in
00:45:28.000front of you I think one of the one of the big problems that we're
00:45:31.000seeing now Especially with the right is that they keep saying things
00:45:35.000like why would someone want there to be no justice?
00:45:38.000You know, they're like the the people who are cheering for Kyle Rittenhouse to go to prison are cheering the
00:45:43.000destruction of our justice system Why would you want that?
00:45:46.000And I'm just like, you'd think after this many years, you'd realize that communists who scream, long live the revolution, this guy Gage Grosskreutz testified, he did, hold up his fist.
00:46:09.000What people need to understand, and this is what I was trying to say to Steve the other day, when you assume that your political rival holds the same moral framework and worldview as you, you are wrong.
00:46:20.000When these people say, long live the revolution, and then you wonder why it is they're lying under oath, They do not respect our moral framework.
00:46:29.000They do not agree with our moral framework.
00:46:31.000They do not respect the authority of the court.
00:46:33.000And they believe they have a right, by any means necessary, to subvert and destroy this system.
00:46:38.000I was surprised when he actually admitted, bicep guy.
00:47:59.000So when he's like, you know, it wasn't until you pointed the gun, he's like, no.
00:48:03.000And then, well here's the video, oh yeah, I guess so.
00:48:05.000It's very different from them, and this dude lied a lot.
00:48:08.000It was funny when the prosecutor, playing the video, with Gage Grosskreutz, holding his gun, and he goes, so at this point, you've pulled your gun as you're approaching Kyle Rittenhouse, and he goes, no.
00:48:20.000And the prosecutor's like, here's the video we just played with a gun in your hand.
00:48:45.000Did you knowingly spy on the American people?
00:48:50.000That's right, and unfortunately when him and Schiff and all of these cronies went on TV and lied about Russiagate, they weren't under oath.
00:48:59.000When they were under oath in congressional testimony, they admitted, I have no evidence, it's not true, it's all bunk.
00:49:05.000That's one of my favorite things, talking to Cash, him pointing all that stuff out.
00:49:11.000Now listen, we just gave respect to Anna Kasparian because she corrected the record on a mistake she made.
00:49:17.000And now I'm going to highlight Cenk Uygur.
00:49:20.000I'm not someone who, you know, I typically don't like talking about the Young Turks or other commentators, but this is actually a really important cultural moment that we're getting not just from Cenk Uygur, but from one of his followers that I think we absolutely need to address.
00:49:35.000Cenk Uygur tweeted, So Joe Rogan's show has now become a boring right-wing show.
00:49:41.000No real diversity of opinion. It's just insane conspiracy theories and right-wing lies,
00:49:46.000like every other Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson-like show, and it's obvious he doesn't
00:49:50.000want to be challenged on his ideas anymore. The Democrats just lost miserably in a series
00:49:56.000of elections. In Virginia, notably due to critical race theory.
00:50:00.000Suburban housewives, white suburban women voted for the Republican critical race theory plays poorly with, you know, working class individuals and suburbanites.
00:50:11.000We saw a state senator who spent only $153 win without campaigning against the incumbent
00:50:19.000Democrat who refused to concede until today's like, okay, I accept that I lost because people
00:50:25.000If there's an R next to it, that's how much people are fed up with the Democrats, with
00:50:29.000wokeness, with all of this stuff we've been complaining about for a long time.
00:50:33.000If you look at basically every metric.
00:50:35.000You'll see that independent voters are leaning closer towards Republicans simply because Republicans are closer to them and Democrats are going further and further left.
00:50:45.000Pew Research put out a political tribes chart.
00:50:48.000There is a group called the stressed sideline, which is the least politically active group, according to their survey, center-right position.
00:50:58.000The individuals who consider themselves to be politically neutral are center-right.
00:51:03.000We would probably fall under what Pew Research refers to as the ambivalent right.
00:51:07.000It's a group of people who aren't conservative, but have voted Republican, who are actually fairly progressive on certain issues, or economic issues, but are against the Democrats and wokeness and all that stuff.
00:51:17.000Back to what Cenk Uygur is saying, and here's why I think this is so important to highlight.
00:51:21.000not just because of his comment, but because of one of his followers' responses, who said,
00:51:25.000I'm also feeling that way about e-cigar and crystal ball with their breaking points show.
00:51:31.000I loved it when they impartially went after both sides of MSM, but now it's just one-sided
00:51:35.000attacks and conspiracy theories, no balance anymore. My response was, as Democrats begin
00:51:41.000to lose and moderates are shown to be closer politically to the right because the left has
00:51:46.000has gone so far left, a breakdown among the left ensues.
00:51:50.000Cenk Uygur's only response is, because he's built up his audience around chasing this fringe, unpopular ideology is, It's not me who's wrong.
00:51:59.000It's everyone else who just voted against us.
00:52:14.000I mean, we've been talking on this show for a long time.
00:52:15.000I've been talking about it, that the CRT in schools is going to be the biggest red pill delivery service that we've seen, and it clearly played out that way.
00:52:23.000You know, we've been talking about that.
00:52:26.000I mean, when your daughter comes home from school and wonders if she's a racist because what they're talking about in class, You know, that's going to get Mama Bear activated.
00:52:33.000And I also just want to give some big shout outs to some friends of ours, Corey DeAngelis and Christopher Ruffo.
00:52:40.000Boy, James Lindsay, James Lindsay, of course.
00:52:42.000And, you know, all of us here have been hammering all this stuff for a long time.
00:52:46.000And dude, they had a huge hand in what happened in Virginia, you know, and it really shows.
00:52:51.000And thank goodness, because I love Virginia and I want it to be read.
00:52:54.000It really shows that what we need is a big network of people that aren't necessarily on the same campaigns and aren't necessarily getting paid by the same people and aren't necessarily totally aligned.
00:53:04.000But you need people, you need the academics to define it, you need the media people to set the stage, you need the campaign managers to follow the lead and follow the polls.
00:53:12.000And what happened in Virginia was amazing.
00:53:14.000I was in Orlando at the National Conservatism Conference the night that Youngkin won and Chris Rufo was sitting right next to me and when they announced it, oh man, it was so exciting because that dude has been busting his ass!
00:53:27.000But how crazy is it That here we are, you're Democrat to deplorable, being like, I want Virginia to be red, and I'm at the conservatism conference.
00:53:35.000I know, I know, and it feels perfectly natural, and those people feel perfectly... I mean, I definitely did not agree with everything that I heard at the National Conservative Concert.
00:53:43.000However, but they did feel more like, quote, my people.
00:53:47.000And who would just interpret a random event in a similar fashion than these crazies like Cenk.
00:53:52.000And dude, I'd gotten a media game later than you.
00:53:56.000So I have never seen this Cenk Uygur guy be reasonable or say anything smart or whatever.
00:54:41.000This is what happened to all of these establishment forces.
00:54:46.000The Young Turks, they were big, they were leftist.
00:54:49.000You have CNN, who was supposedly the corporate, they're corporate media for sure, but they were never hard left the way they became.
00:54:56.000What happened was, especially for the Young Turks, is that you go on Twitter, And you look at your mentions, and you get 30 replies, and you're scrolling down, and they're all saying, you were wrong about X. People are easily manipulated by this, assuming that 30 angry people represent their entire base.
00:55:14.000So what happens is, eventually the Young Turks, and other, you know, digital outlets, start saying, wow, my followers think this is right, or think this is wrong, I don't want to lose followers.
00:55:25.000So they start adhering to a fringe minority.
00:55:28.000We've seen the polling data, between 8 and 10% of the country, If you want to abandon 90% of the country for 8% because there's a market share for you, good luck.
00:55:37.000What's happened now is the Young Turks, CNN, MSNBC, have you seen this?
00:55:42.000Rachel Maddow's canceling her daily show, she's gonna do a weekly show, and Brian Williams announced he's leaving because their ratings are in the trash.
00:56:40.000The Young Turks have done the same thing.
00:56:42.000Now Cenk Uygur's only option is to say Joe Rogan, who is moderate left-leaning, and the most popular podcaster, and probably the second most popular comedian, is a right-wing boring show.
00:56:54.000Cenk, Joe Rogan is like your average dude talking about crazy things all the time.
00:57:22.000And so when I, you look at Joe Rogan, and he is very likely representing regular Americans, but the Democrats have pulled, you look at this, the Pew data that got released that went viral, when it shows the Democrat shift versus the Republican shift, do you remember this?
00:58:40.000And because if you just respond to your audience being mad at you, like, you know, I catch a lot of crap for being anti-Trump.
00:58:46.000I catch a lot of crap for a lot of things, but it's those moments where you need to have some fortitude because that's when you're staying true to just the pursuit of truth.
00:58:54.000And that's why guys like Mike Cernovich get so much crap from people because he's just trying, he's just pursuing the truth, his version of the truth, whatever.
00:59:01.000He's just asking questions and he's trying to come to his own understanding.
00:59:05.000It's when Matt Aldud, I said on November 7th, Donald Trump lost, get over it.
00:59:12.000And all the hardcore Trump supporters were like, screw Tim Poole, they were mad at me.
00:59:16.000But still, the left claims I pushed the narrative of election fraud, which I never did.
00:59:21.000In fact, Steve Bannon came on this show, and I argued with him about it, saying, I think you guys are focused on the wrong thing.
00:59:27.000You gotta focus on Democrats' ground game, and how they did voting in the park, and how they did universal mail-in voting, because that is the edge that got them the win.
01:00:37.000So my thought was kind of, we should only extend the values of our justice system to those who uphold it equally for us as well.
01:00:44.000If we believe in the Bill of Rights and the Fifth Amendment and the Second Amendment, why would we give people an opportunity to take those rights from us?
01:00:51.000What I mean to say is, if we believe in the right to remain silent in a fair trial, and someone walks in and says, I will not give you that same benefit, but I demand it of you, we should respond with, no.
01:01:01.000Either we all agree these are the rules, or we won't apply them to you if you don't want them.
01:01:06.000To simplify it even further, if you don't believe in free speech, why would I defend your right to free speech?
01:01:16.000The issue is... I mean, I hear what you're saying.
01:01:18.000I hear what you're saying, but like the right to... Yeah, that's tough.
01:01:23.000But those are the most egregious circumstances that free speech has to be supported.
01:01:27.000It's even for people that don't believe in it, right?
01:01:29.000Even for people that are acting insane.
01:01:31.000For people that are doing the dumbest, craziest things that you could possibly think of, then that's why guys like Mark Randazzo are amazing, because they go out there and defend those kind of people.
01:01:40.000So there have been a few pundits who have pointed out that one of the problems with conservatives and the more libertarian-minded people on free speech is that they're unwilling to accept any limitations on speech in pursuit of free speech, which is the wrong thing to do.
01:01:54.000Well, we need to recognize that there are certain limits culturally that we're not willing to accept and then call out the left for violating these same limits and not respecting the free speech that they demand.
01:02:06.000To put it simply, there's that paradox of intolerance where they say, if you tolerate intolerance, then the intolerant win.
01:02:14.000We all need to agree on the rules and then operate within those rules.
01:02:18.000If someone seeks to destroy our rights and attack our way of life, we should not give them equal opportunity.
01:02:27.000We should not open the door for them, to put it simply.
01:02:30.000To wrap this all up, my point is, The judge in the Rittenhouse case knows they're breaking the rules, has yelled at the prosecutors, but is still, as someone who believes in America and is proud, will uphold these systems which benefit those who lie, cheat, and steal, and are seeking to destroy the very system that is protecting them.
01:02:50.000It just means that we can't be absolute in our defense of egregious actors.
01:02:58.000We certainly will protect their free speech and act in good faith, but when it becomes apparent that they're trying to destroy the system, we say, okay, we can't tolerate your attempt to destroy free speech.
01:03:07.000So that logic, do the 9-11 suicide bombers, do they deserve a free, like a fair trial?
01:03:18.000I think what I mean to say is, and I think Ian helped my understanding of this.
01:03:23.000He had some good questions about the ethics of vaccine lockdown, of mandates and lockdowns when you brought up Ebola and what people's rights are.
01:03:30.000There's a point where if there was an airborne Ebola, everyone in this room would be like, lock it all down, right?
01:03:36.000Like an 80% mortality of people coughing and their insides are liquefying and you're watching it happen.
01:03:45.000So then, you know, I started to think that for the most part, it's really about how much risk you're, how much you're willing to tolerate in terms of sacrificing freedoms, because everybody's willing to give up something if it, if something is, you know, give us some of their freedoms if it's egregious enough.
01:03:56.000I think for the most part, we just happen to be, people who watch the show and us, substantially more libertarian than they are.
01:04:03.000So they're more likely to take away people's rights.
01:04:09.000But a really good point that was made that I think will help people understand this is that someone said to Tucker Carlson, you would not allow someone to come on your show and make racist comments.
01:04:24.000The legal limits should not be banning hate speech, but the culturally acceptable limits exist.
01:04:30.000In which case, we need to enforce culturally our ideals and tell people who would say, revolution nothing less, by any means necessary, that we will not accept that culture.
01:04:40.000Since we're opening this can of worms, let's talk about this for just for just one quick second.
01:04:45.000I knew I know a guy and his he separated from his wife and his kids are in Israel and his daughter's bat mitzvah was coming up.
01:04:54.000And it looks like that the judge is going to actually order the kids to stay in Israel.
01:04:59.000And so he and in Israel, you can't enter the country unless you have a vaccine.
01:05:19.000He was faced with get the vaccine and see his kids or don't get the vaccine and maybe never see his kids again.
01:05:28.000That is a extremely difficult situation to be put in if you believe very, if you're very adamantly opposed to the vaccines and the mandates.
01:05:37.000And I don't think any of us would argue here that this guy should never see his kids again.
01:05:42.000So what that clearly lays out for us is that there is, it is a personal decision about this and it's a spectrum.
01:06:33.000It's going to be the easiest way for the moment, but in the long term, it's going to be the most difficult way for everyone else, including that person who, you know, compromised his morals to comply with the
01:06:44.000So there's many different ways around a different issue.
01:06:46.000Compromise one element of his morals to honor the rest of his morals.
01:06:51.000I don't, again, I don't agree with that kind of argument.
01:06:56.000There's many different avenues that people could walk down that doesn't include compliance that could still allow him to see his children in many different ways and many different avenues.
01:07:06.000And I think you should explore all of those options until there's not an option possible.
01:07:11.000Flying to, what, like fake vaccine cards and things like this?
01:07:14.000Again, I'm not here to advocate any of that.
01:07:16.000I think advocating that is even a felony under the FBI.
01:07:20.000I mean, there's human rights legal proceedings.
01:07:22.000He could get a lawyer, he could file lawsuits, he could say, I will not, you know,
01:07:26.000the government can't mandate a medical procedure and take my kids from me.
01:07:29.000Meet in another country, have a mediator come in and say, hey, okay, let's go meet in Egypt,
01:07:35.000or let's go meet in Turkey, let's go meet somewhere nearby and establish
01:07:39.000that we're gonna be doing this in some sort of way that doesn't infringe on my values and morals.
01:07:43.000Dad assumes that he has a cooperative ex-wife.
01:07:46.000Okay, but you know, there's... Well, hold on.
01:08:48.000The NBA has told all players, coaches, and referees that you have to have a booster shot if you got the Johnson & Johnson after two months and the Pfizer & Moderna after six months.
01:10:59.000There was a really cool guy from the NBA at the National Conservativism Conference, as a matter of fact, Isaac Judah, Orlando Magic, sixth pick overall.
01:11:19.000Seeing people like Kyrie Irving, Aaron Rodgers, people who are willing to speak out and stand up for what they believe in, this is fantastic.
01:11:26.000Now, Aaron Rodgers apparently lied about his, you know, immunization or whatever.
01:11:29.000And I, he should have spoken up and just been true and honest from the get-go.
01:11:34.000But I think when we start seeing celebrities and athletes speak out in defense of individual liberties, individual rights, that's a good thing.
01:12:03.000I mean, that's, you know, that's the vibe, right?
01:12:05.000I've not been in a conference like that.
01:12:07.000That guy was super well-spoken, very intelligent, and made his case very articulately about his natural immunity, etc.
01:12:15.000Well, the media attacked him viciously because he wasn't going along.
01:12:19.000And he did a whole press conference where he addressed this entire matter and brought up points very eloquently and was talking about all the scientific issues that actually mattered.
01:12:31.000Everyone was like, I wish this guy was Dr. Fauci.
01:12:33.000Because he explained scientific terms in such an easy, simple way that made a lot of people understand his position.
01:12:40.000And they stopped attacking him because of the way that he approached this situation without getting angry, without attacking, without yelling, without freaking out, and just said, okay, here, let me just explain myself calmly, rationally.
01:12:51.000And because of that, they stopped attacking him.
01:14:23.000Well, if you were a rep in Virginia, communicating with New York about revolutionary ideas, Sure, it took a couple weeks to send a letter, sure.
01:14:30.000But so the actual conversation could be months unless you came down for a special meeting in Philadelphia or something.
01:14:36.000I would love to know if any of our founding fathers, Thomas Jefferson, Hamilton, if any of those guys paid the stamp tax at any point in their life.
01:14:45.000Because if they did, let's talk about it.
01:14:55.000I don't know why everybody's giving me a effing hard time about having a conversation for people in America that are struggling with this issue.
01:15:53.000What I'm saying is that there's a matrix to make decisions as to whether this action is going to have the desired outcome.
01:16:00.000Or if it's only going to be deleterious to yourself or harmful to yourself, there's a lot to consider.
01:16:07.000And not everybody, even the most venerated people in our history, the people you would call patriots, the people that founded this country, I bet you they didn't resist every single moment of tyranny before they finally had had enough.
01:16:19.000And actually like the things that they revolted over in some cases.
01:16:24.000Benjamin Franklin actually suggested the appointment of John Hughes as the agent for Pennsylvania to be a stamp distributor, not aware of the turmoil that the tax would create between American-British relations.
01:16:32.000It's just an interesting historical question.
01:18:35.000A lot of people are saying, why would an electrician have, you know, key details in that regard?
01:18:39.000The Independent reports, A Rust crew member who held the dying Helena Hutchins in his arms has sued Alec Baldwin, armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, and assistant director Dave Halls for severe emotional distress over the shooting.
01:18:51.000Head electrician Sergei Svetnoy alleges in the lawsuit that the scene in which Ms.
01:18:56.000Hutchins was killed did not call for Mr. Baldwin to fire the weapon, which she had been told was cold.
01:19:01.000Mr. Baldwin is sued in both his capacity as an actor and a producer of the Western movie, which has been shut down as investigations into the death continues.
01:19:09.000Mr. Savetnoy claims in the court papers that the bullet that killed Mrs. Hutchins also struck director Joel Soza, almost hit him as well, according to TMZ.
01:19:18.000He states that he is suing Mr. Baldwin because the star owed a duty to the plaintiff and other crew members and actors on the Rust set to handle the Colt revolver provided to him by defendant Halls with reasonable care and diligence for the safety of the Rust cast and crew.
01:19:32.000They go on to say, quote, This duty called for defendant Baldwin to double-check the Colt revolver with Halls upon being handled to ensure it did not contain live ammunition, court papers state.
01:19:43.000The lawsuit also claims the fatal scene did not require Baldwin to pull the gun's trigger, with the script instructing him to draw the weapon and point it in the general direction of the camera.
01:19:51.000But, quote, the scene did not call for the defendant Baldwin to shoot the Colt revolver.
01:19:56.000My understanding is that the Colt revolver, especially a piece from this era, would be single action, not double action.
01:20:04.000Which means, and actually I have a single action, you have to actually pull the hammer back before it can be fired.
01:20:10.000The question then emerges, If we're assuming this lawsuit is correct, the electrician's claims as a witness and someone involved in the crew is right, maybe he's disgruntled.
01:20:21.000Maybe he was a disgruntled crew member.
01:20:37.000I think, as I stated yesterday, we didn't do a full segment on this, which is why this story came out four hours ago and I thought it was important to bring up.
01:20:45.000We've been giving him the benefit of the doubt the whole time for no reason.
01:21:10.000Granted, this guy's suing, but it's still someone who was on the crew who's making a statement and saying this is what happened and what was supposed to happen.
01:21:18.000In which case, the facts we have to start.
01:21:23.000Pulled the hammer back, pointed it at the cinematographer, at the camera with the cinematographer standing there, fired the gun with a live bullet in it.
01:21:30.000In order to assume that was an accident, we'd have to make a ton of assumptions.
01:21:55.000But I'm just pointing out it is logically absurd to begin the story as if we believe it was a mistake.
01:22:02.000Well, what's very clear is that Alec Baldwin has a very skilled team of PR people that has been rolling this out bit by bit, manipulating the narrative, seeding things in our mind, much the way an interrogator will get you to say yes and lead you places, plant things out there.
01:22:20.000Very concerted effort, which, you know, even if it were an accident, they would do the same thing, right?
01:22:25.000If it was a total accident, he would definitely hire a crisis management team.
01:22:28.000They would definitely be doing everything that they're doing.
01:22:31.000But the way that things are coming out bit by bit by bit now, and when you really put it like that, you know, he pulls back, pulls back the action, points it at the guy, pulls, shoots.
01:22:41.000And doesn't he have a history of going off on people?
01:22:45.000Remember he just attacked a guy in New York over a parking space?
01:22:49.000The armor, I think she was claiming that people were afraid of Alec on set, basically.
01:22:55.000If they were like, hey, it's too dangerous, you can't do that, Alec would flip his lid and fire the person on the spot.
01:23:00.000Didn't he leave some nasty voicemail for his own daughter or something, calling her the worst names in the world and being an absolute monster?
01:24:11.000I was like, do you think for one single second that if this were to happen to someone, for example, like James Woods, that he would be compassionate and graceful?
01:24:19.000He would be on Twitter before the body was cold.
01:25:29.000So then why would he have pulled the trigger?
01:25:32.000Well, then we start getting into the crew disputes, the hot-headedness of the character.
01:25:36.000I don't understand why it's logical in any capacity to say he accidentally pulled a live firearm with a bullet, pulled the hammer back and shot a woman, and be like, but let's figure out how many, how we can justify it as an accident.
01:25:48.000No, you made a good point about crisis management.
01:26:13.000And then I stopped and thought to myself, So I have to assume a woman, an armorer, who's trained with firearms, accidentally loaded a live round, gave it to an assistant director who didn't check it, but claimed it was cold, gave it to Alec Baldwin, who wasn't supposed to pull the trigger, who then pulls the trigger, and all of that is true for me to continue the accident narrative.
01:26:32.000Okay, I dude, I don't like Alec Baldwin, even though he's just a tremendous actor, which just bothers me.
01:26:38.000Him and Glenn Cleary, Glenn Ross is like one of the most powerful scenes in film.
01:27:39.000Alec Baldwin pulled back the hammer, pointed the gun, and pulled the trigger at a woman.
01:27:42.000Motive is, this is a guy who's known to be a hothead, who screamed at his own daughter, who shoved a guy over a parking space.
01:27:51.000I'm not trying to argue that he's a rage-filled monster, but that he has a temper.
01:27:57.000So if we're going to look at how this woman died, Do I assume the armorer who's trained in firearms accidentally loaded a live bullet, then gave it to a second person who claimed to have checked it but didn't, who gave it to Alec Baldwin, who is trained for decades with firearms, who didn't check it, or do I say, there was a producer dispute with the crew over the conditions on the set, and then the guy who's running, one of the producers, shoots a woman!
01:28:23.000There's a lot of things that are very difficult to believe in each of these scenarios.
01:28:43.000She was like, I'm not comfortable in this job.
01:28:45.000She was doing two jobs at once on the set.
01:28:47.000But it's like, you can't say it to Alec because he'll fire you on the spot.
01:28:50.000I think it's crazy to assume that the one person who was not treating the gun properly was the one person whose job it is to treat the gun properly.
01:29:08.000So you think that she handed over a gun that had a blank in it and Alec Baldwin inserted a live round in between receiving the handgun and discharging it?
01:29:17.000If we're going to start with all of the facts laid in front of us, it is, in my opinion, slightly more probable that Alec Baldwin loaded the gun and shot.
01:29:46.000I'm just saying, why would I assume the armorer made a mistake, the assistant director failed to check it, and then Alec Baldwin, for no reason, pulled the trigger at a woman?
01:29:56.000And then add to it, very clearly a skilled PR team is seeding stories, manipulating the media, getting out there.
01:31:10.000I'm just saying, I feel like a crisis management team likely was involved in seeding stories that were clearly false to create the accident narrative first and then prejudice individuals who read on.
01:31:21.000But now you have a guy who has, in a sworn statement, a deposition lawsuit, in a lawsuit saying, the scene did not call for him to fire the gun.
01:31:53.000That's what I interpolated from the article I was reading.
01:31:55.000But remember too, remember we were talking about this before the show, it is known in the actor community that even a blank can kill somebody.
01:32:09.000My nose is always itching when I'm in here.
01:32:15.000It's known in the actor community, and Alec was an actor then, a young actor put a blank to his head and killed himself by accident thinking it was a blank and that it wasn't gonna kill him.
01:32:27.000So it's known in Hollywood that blanks can be lethal.
01:32:33.000And again, Alec Baldwin has decades of action movie experience.
01:32:37.000There was already a witness who testified that they worked with Alec Baldwin and he knows not only standard gun protocol safety but on-set gun safety and he violated.
01:32:46.000So Alec Baldwin For this accident to have occurred, slipped his mindstandard gun safety, slipped his mindstandard protocol, pulled the trigger on a gun in a scene that didn't call for it, was handed a gun by a guy who claims to have checked it but didn't, by a woman who accidentally put a live bullet in it and didn't check.
01:33:01.000That's insane to assume all of those things are true.
01:33:03.000They were apparently doing live target practice on downtime on set.
01:33:07.000And then they're like, no, no, people are denying that they were doing it at all.
01:33:09.000But they're like, dude, there's live ammo all over the set.
01:33:12.000They were going out and shooting at cans between takes.
01:33:21.000The shooter's gotta get charged, the production team has gotta get charged, the armorer and the assistant director all need to be charged in this.
01:33:27.000I was reading legal analysis over basic questions and it seems like, based on the facts we have that have been released, whatever the claims are, involuntary manslaughter is...
01:33:38.000The fact that it is standard safety protocol not to point a weapon at someone and pull the trigger, the fact that he didn't check when he had the opportunity to do so, means someone died at his hand.
01:33:48.000It was an accident, but he's responsible.
01:33:50.000I'm waiting for all the articles to come out to say Alec Baldwin is a white supremacist who's obviously leaning on his white privilege for having killed this person.
01:35:20.000Uh, we didn't really plan to do an event in Austin, but our plan is once a month we'll, we're going to have the mobile studio in different cities for different events.
01:35:28.000And then Friday night we'll do a live venue performance or show.
01:35:32.000So basically we'll set up a studio on a stage somewhere and then do Timcast IRL Friday night with a live audience.
01:35:43.000But as for the non-profit, one of the big challenges with forming a non-profit is that we did it at the end of the year, which means that we're still awaiting approval from the IRS for tax-exempt status.
01:35:55.000We have the Truth in Media Foundation, and we have the ON Foundation, which is technology.
01:36:03.000I've talked to some potential donors who want to help fund the nonprofits and their mission, but they're like, if I donate now, it's not tax deductible until next month.
01:36:12.000So we basically have to wait about a month and a half.
01:36:14.000January 1st, we can then take donations, start hiring, and things like that.
01:36:18.000So that's probably when things will kick off.
01:36:20.000As for the job, it is required that you know how to do research.
01:36:24.000And we're probably going to have, I think, three people start at the nonprofit.
01:36:27.000The goal is to issue ratings on news organizations and also issue general fact checks.
01:36:32.000So we'll have a consistent, like, here's fact checks.
01:36:35.000We're going to apply through Pointer for Facebook status and all that stuff like normal.
01:36:39.000And we're going to fact check anybody.
01:37:22.000For this, it's gonna be, like, three people, and if someone starts violating journalistic ethics, we'll just be like, you aren't violating journalistic ethics.
01:38:32.000Creators could disable that feature if they want to disable it.
01:38:36.000So this whole ruse that it's for people's protection is nonsense.
01:38:39.000Can you disable just one of the like, just the down like?
01:38:42.000I think it's the like and the dislike all together you could totally get rid of.
01:38:46.000Here's a, we have a really important super chat, but I can't read Cyrillic, so I'm going to pretend that the Cyrillic is English, and it says, E-B-R-E-M, E-B-R-E-N, backwards N, backwards N, A-N-I-C, C-A-H-A, P-O-B.
01:39:03.000They said, about pinch-to-zoom, even simple linear interpolation can create false details in an image, but Apple doesn't use simple interpolation.
01:39:12.000They've got machine learning support in hardware in 2017, see Apple Neural Engine, and it can do weird things, just Google Obama depixel.
01:39:21.000There are people posting images of how zooming in on like iPhones or whatever can make your image warp and look really weird.
01:39:28.000So the defense in the Rittenhouse case said, The prosecutor tried to bring in evidence by zooming in on an iPad and he says, no, no, no, no, they use, he said, AI 3D logarithms, which I should not have made fun of the boomer guy for not understanding what he was talking about.
01:39:47.000And then the judge, I think, agreed and said, bring in an expert to prove that's not happening and I'll allow it.
01:39:52.000And they were like, how are we supposed to do that?
01:39:53.000And the judge was like, you can't admit evidence unless you can prove it's like real evidence.
01:39:59.000The Raketa Law crew, when they were streaming, said the fact that they would try and zoom in in real time instead of zooming in first, then giving it to a forensic expert, and then admitting it as evidence is absurd.
01:41:12.000So when he's posting the video, too, we definitely get traffic.
01:41:17.000Trey Marx says Drew Hernandez is apparently one of the next people testifying, so there's another eyewitness account of the attacks on Kyle.
01:41:26.000And I will just say, I won't get into too many details, but Drew Hernandez is a strong-minded individual.
01:41:33.000He's gonna have a clear memory, he's gonna know the details, and he's gonna be confident in his assessment.
01:41:40.000So when the prosecution tries to play manipulative games, I don't think that'll work on someone like Drew Hernandez who's going to be of sound mind and mental fortitude to explain, here's what I saw, here's what happened.
01:41:50.000And then when they try and say, but don't you think?
01:41:51.000No, here's what I saw, here's what happened.
01:42:06.000Like I, it's not about whether, um, Kyle's right or wrong.
01:42:09.000It's about, you know, in this instance, I'm referring to journalists who know what they saw, know what they have to say and will not be manipulated by prosecutors or defense.
01:42:18.000You know, I was just listening to the interview I did with Richie and BG on the scene about all this.
01:42:24.000I did it with them earlier this summer and or gosh last year.
01:42:28.000I can't remember now and he he said very clearly that he couldn't he wasn't going to give any opinions as to motive when he was talking to me and that he was going to be a witness in the case and that all he was there to do was to give testimony as to what happened factually.
01:42:43.000And Richie has held true to that from then all the way through, all the way up until that moment right there on the stand.
01:42:49.000So kudos to you, Richie McGinnis, man.
01:45:53.000We're trying to just be honest in our assessment and not be...
01:45:58.000Not judge people who want to live the way they want to live.
01:46:00.000I mean, that's why I think it's crazy that they say that we're conservative and I think it's a political tactic because we're actually fairly progressive on social issues.
01:46:08.000We are just not as far left as they are.
01:46:10.000Not everybody, I know Lydia's conservative.
01:46:13.000But this is like a mixed bag of, I mean like, you know, one of the things you pointed out is that one of the things that allowed you to become, to vote Republican was that Republicans opened up to gay marriage.
01:48:01.000It's very refreshing to talk about the case here and to know that there's so many thousands of people listening, because actually this is good.
01:48:28.000I think what's happening with the moms who are being called racist, they're probably sitting around their dining room table also being like, I'm hoping, uh, man, you know, they're calling me racist.
01:48:39.000I want, I wonder if all those other people they've been calling racist aren't actually racist, too.
01:48:55.000But there's probably a lot of regular people who see the see, you know, there have been a few channels that have
01:49:00.000been playing it like ABC 7 Chicago is gonna live stream on YouTube. There's probably a lot of people who are
01:49:04.000interested, and they're watching the trial. I mean, it is it is interesting for a lot of people to understand what's
01:49:10.000going on. And then they read CNN and go, what? I don't know.
01:49:15.000I was talking to Steve Hilton last night on the way down here and I was like, you know, most of the people who change their mind about Trump did so because they watched one of his speeches.
01:49:22.000Not commentary about his speech, just one of his speeches.
01:49:25.000So watching this trial, I think is going to be like a red pill dispensary as well.
01:49:35.000I think there was a really great comment by Cassandra Fairbanks.
01:49:39.000She tweeted that at first she thought it was a really bad idea for them to put Kyle Rittenhouse on the stand.
01:49:44.000But then she saw him breaking down and she thought to herself, you know, something like, get this baby off the stand as a mother, like, watching him be attacked and he's this young guy.
01:49:54.000So maybe that's what their goal was, really.
01:49:57.000The reason, uh, people were criticizing the defense for not objecting to the badgering from the prosecution.
01:50:03.000But I think maybe the goal was we get him to testify and he does a good job, but he also breaks down and he shows his humility and his fear and remorse and panic.
01:50:12.000But the guys on the other side, they all took that as him being, uh, you know, just afraid that he's going to jail because he's admitting, you know, being on the stand and it's becoming clear that he committed murder.
01:50:22.000But I want to just point out one thing.
01:50:24.000Real quick, my point here is not that they're going to convince the left.
01:50:28.000It's that the jury, who supposedly has limited information on this, what are they going to see?
01:50:39.000However, the prosecution then badgers him.
01:50:41.000And so the jury sees an annoying prosecution that's wasting their time by asking the same question a million times, and they see a defense compassionately speaking with a defendant who's traumatized.
01:50:53.000Joe Kent, the congressional candidate from Washington state, he had a really nice tweet today where he said that as a guy who's been in combat, him and his wife who was killed in combat, he said that everyone reacts differently to remembering instances in which you were forced to kill somebody or experiencing this kind of trauma.
01:51:14.000And I was just really pleased to see Joe put out such an empathetic leadership to kind of tweet like that, saying that like emotions and trauma and people react to that in different ways.
01:51:26.000And we should respect the way that Kyle is reacting to that, because irrespective of his motive, killing somebody is got to be horrible.
01:51:34.000And we should also give that to Alec Baldwin.
01:52:02.000We bring the witnesses in, and we try to the best of our ability to know the facts.
01:52:05.000What I'm saying with Alec Baldwin is we must do the same thing.
01:52:09.000And if the initial reports of a blank, misfiring, and shrapnel hitting a person are not true, we need to erase from our minds our prejudice, assuming there was an accident, and start with the core facts, and then work our way back from how it happened.
01:54:17.000And that's why I think it's a bad idea.
01:54:20.000I say it's a bad idea on the global scale.
01:54:24.000I do think there's a problem when you have leftists who don't care about the truth and want suffering.
01:54:31.000They can say whatever they want all day and night about Q people being dumb, but when they're like, I want someone to go to prison for the sake of me feeling good as a winner, I'm like, yo, that's evil.
01:54:40.000It's this balance of like having a free society that gives freedom to people that would do the society harm.
01:54:46.000And so then they become more authoritarian to protect society from those people and then start protecting it from other people that maybe aren't dangerous.
01:54:54.000I think dividing it might be the way to cause least amount of harm.
01:54:57.000If you want harm reduction, you got to have some kind of civil divorce.
01:55:56.000People subscribed to the Young Turks, and then over time as the Young Turks drifted further and further left, many of these people said, I don't care to watch that video anymore.
01:57:26.000If she said it was like a Klan rally, something proper and specific, then you could be like, I never did that.
01:57:32.000So that Biden tweet where he shows Kyle, or is that doctored?
01:57:36.000I don't know about that, but let me clarify.
01:57:38.000When I was saying if they said he went to a white supremacist rally and he never went to a rally, then it's libelous because he didn't take an action.
01:57:47.000If you went to a Trump rally and she said white supremacist rally, it's not actionable because it's her opinion.
01:58:00.000Everyone calls everybody a Nazi or a fascist, so it's not actionable.
01:58:04.000So you could, but today, but like say five, six, eight years ago, it had much different impact.
01:58:10.000If they say, if someone said like person X is a card carrying member of the Nazi party, then you could be like, that's defamatory and not true.
01:58:18.000The problem then is you still need damages.
01:59:08.000And the judge says, but I want to preserve this legal system.
01:59:12.000And I'm like, then you allow the liars, cheaters, deceivers, the stealers to keep destroying the system.
01:59:18.000I think a justified mistrial would be something society would be very good for society in modern day.
01:59:27.000I don't normally read crypto posts, but this one I must.
01:59:31.000Jackson H says, while the rest of the crypto market is tanking, the FJB token just pumped over 300% today, and the founder donated another 10K to military charities.
02:00:14.000I don't care for useless tokens where they just try and sell them.
02:00:18.000But if someone said they were making a token with the express purpose of fundraising for a charity, meaning you buy the tokens and the proceeds from the organization that released them uses that to fund, you know, military charities like they did.
02:02:08.000Which is why, why did we trust any of those videos that were coming out from Wuhan in November and December of people falling over and stories of like billions of cell phones being taken offline?
02:02:57.000However, this means that the armorer made a mistake, handed it to another person who made a mistake, who handed it to another person who made a mistake, who then shot a woman.
02:03:05.000I mean, that's just a big, that's many leaps.
02:03:08.000So maybe, it's possible, sometimes people win the lottery.
02:03:12.000You get the numbers, they line up and it's astronomical odds.
02:03:15.000We went to the casino a couple of weeks ago.
02:03:16.000You put, you know, 20 bucks on 26 and then, you know, we ended up winning a bunch of money because sometimes 26 comes up.
02:03:22.000And if there's an ethos of people not taking precautions on the set, if that's the production company's method, then you're going to get five and six people not take precautions all at once.
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