Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - October 10, 2022


Timcast IRL - Russia MISSILE STRIKES German Embassy, Trump Warns WW3 Is Coming, AGAIN w-Drew Miller


Episode Stats

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2 hours and 3 minutes

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202.44423

Word Count

24,958

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1,888

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

44


Summary

On today's show, Alex Blumberg talks about the latest in the ongoing crisis between Ukraine and Russia, PayPal backtracking on a hate speech policy, and the possibility of World War 3. Plus, Alex talks to a Harvard professor who has a PhD in nuclear warfare.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The big news over the weekend.
00:00:19.000 The bridge to Crimea from Russia was bombed.
00:00:22.000 Now the mainstream media, they're saying, we don't know who did it.
00:00:25.000 Some reports are that obviously it was Ukrainian military of some sort.
00:00:29.000 Why wouldn't it be?
00:00:30.000 Why would it be anybody else?
00:00:31.000 Unless you want to argue there's a third party trying to instigate war, it makes perfect sense that Ukraine is going to try and cut off Russia from Crimea and try and take Crimea back.
00:00:37.000 In response to this, Vladimir Putin launched 84 missiles peppering the entire country.
00:00:43.000 About forty of them, at least the reporting I saw, were intercepted.
00:00:47.000 Several of them landed.
00:00:48.000 The most worrisome, of course, was the German embassy being hit by the Russian strike.
00:00:53.000 So, obviously now there's concerns over escalation.
00:00:57.000 Germany is going to be sending in some kind of missile defense.
00:00:59.000 Joe Biden has promised some kind of missile defense.
00:01:02.000 So...
00:01:03.000 I don't know, World War 3?
00:01:04.000 Donald Trump is warning about it again, saying that we need to stop this now.
00:01:09.000 We need to negotiate, he's offered help in the past, that we may be entering World War 3 and we have no time to waste.
00:01:16.000 Now back on the domestic front, we have big news that I have to address, and that's PayPal.
00:01:21.000 Because you may have seen the news that PayPal launched this policy where if you engage in hate speech or misinformation, they can fine you, charge your account $2,500.
00:01:30.000 They quickly backtracked after Elon Musk and some other PayPal, a former president of PayPal, called them out and said everyone should just shut their accounts down.
00:01:42.000 I think PayPal got hurt by this.
00:01:44.000 Because we can see on our end, the people who still use PayPal, even though we've gotten off the website, we've lost a decent amount of users.
00:01:51.000 And we're getting emails from people saying, that's it, the final straw, they're switching over.
00:01:54.000 We're gonna talk about this story.
00:01:55.000 PayPal is backtracking.
00:01:57.000 It was an error.
00:01:58.000 There are some documents, archives, suggesting it wasn't and that they're just panicking.
00:02:02.000 It's backfiring.
00:02:03.000 But I will say this.
00:02:04.000 Before we get started, head over to TimCast.com.
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00:02:15.000 Parallel Economy was co-founded by Dan Bongino.
00:02:17.000 We got PayPal off the website a long time ago.
00:02:20.000 We did this because we knew they were censoring people and they were going to escalate their ESG social credit score BS.
00:02:27.000 I'm glad we did.
00:02:28.000 And I'm glad as many of you as possible moved over.
00:02:30.000 Now what we didn't do is we didn't discontinue PayPal.
00:02:33.000 For those that are legacy members of the website going back almost a year now and are on members with PayPal, Your memberships are fine.
00:02:41.000 But many of you, I noticed, have been canceling.
00:02:43.000 We hope that you come back and sign up using Parallel Economy.
00:02:46.000 And for those that still use PayPal, you can switch over.
00:02:50.000 It's not super easy.
00:02:51.000 You may have to actually just cancel your account and re-sign up.
00:02:54.000 And that's if you used a guest account with PayPal.
00:02:57.000 I'm not entirely sure.
00:02:58.000 And in all honesty, my apologies in that it's a fairly rudimentary website with limited tech because we don't have, you know, 200 million subscribers like Netflix or anything like that.
00:03:09.000 But, if you haven't already, head over to TimCast.com and become a member.
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00:03:20.000 This is Dan Bongino, co-founder of this company.
00:03:23.000 If we can get more and more users onto Parallel Economy, help them expand, grow, and become a bigger portion of the market share, then we can actually push back against these ESG garbage corporations.
00:03:34.000 So that's one way to do it.
00:03:36.000 Now, Let's talk about what's going on.
00:03:38.000 Joining us today to discuss World War III, Russia, nuclear weapons, is actually somebody who has a Ph.D.
00:03:45.000 in battlefield nuclear warfare.
00:03:48.000 Is that it?
00:03:50.000 Dr. Drew Miller?
00:03:51.000 Yes, Tim.
00:03:52.000 My Ph.D.
00:03:53.000 from Harvard was on underground nuclear defense shelters and field fortifications for NATO troops, so it's the topic today, but I wrote it decades ago, and even then it was politically incorrect To talk about the limited use of nuclear weapons, and we saw this again on Thursday when President Biden said that, you know, you can quote him here, And that's what the Democratic Party has been saying for decades, but it's just not true.
00:04:22.000 If Russia were to use a nuclear weapon on the battlefield against Ukrainian troops, we would be crazy as the United States to escalate that to a strategic nuclear exchange with Russia.
00:04:34.000 I was reading the same thing.
00:04:35.000 There was that quote that I mentioned where the guy said you'd have to be a madman to sacrifice Boston for Poznan.
00:04:40.000 So we'll talk about that, especially with the news pertaining to Russia, but you're also the CEO of Fortitude Ranch.
00:04:46.000 Full disclosure, I have a stake in Fortitude Ranch.
00:04:49.000 But this is, what would you call it?
00:04:52.000 Is it preparedness?
00:04:53.000 Fort Hood Ranch is a recreational and survival community.
00:04:56.000 So in good times our members can come out and use our shooting range and hike and enjoy the rural locations we're in.
00:05:03.000 We're in five states now.
00:05:05.000 But in bad times we turn into survival community.
00:05:07.000 Our members come out to stay alive and get out of cities and suburbs where if the grid is go down, I mean if Russia does an EMP attack on us, our grid is toast.
00:05:16.000 It'll be gone for over a year.
00:05:18.000 And there's no municipal water systems.
00:05:21.000 You will die in cities and suburbs.
00:05:23.000 So our members will come to our rural locations where we're equipped to, you know, survive long-term with food and water, but also all our members have weapons as well as our staff so we can defend ourselves against marauders and survive anything.
00:05:38.000 This is going to be really interesting.
00:05:39.000 I'm excited for this conversation about marauders and survival.
00:05:42.000 So, thanks for coming.
00:05:43.000 We also got Luke Rudkowski hanging out.
00:05:45.000 Someone said shooting range.
00:05:47.000 I'm very happy for this conversation.
00:05:47.000 I'm all in.
00:05:49.000 This is going to be a very important one.
00:05:51.000 My name is Luke Rudkowski of WeAreChange.org and today I'm wearing a t-shirt which represents how war is a racket, showing of course the king and queens having dinner while of course the pawns kill each other off.
00:06:02.000 And that, to me, is the true reality of war.
00:06:04.000 No one wins them except the special interest.
00:06:06.000 If you like the shirt, you can get it on thebestpoliticalshirts.com.
00:06:09.000 Because you do, I am here.
00:06:11.000 Thank you again so much for having me.
00:06:12.000 And hey guys, Ian Crosland here.
00:06:14.000 I had a couple of corrections from last week.
00:06:16.000 At one point I said that Alexander the Great and his band invaded and conquered Ursa Minor.
00:06:21.000 In outer space.
00:06:22.000 It was actually not the Little Dipper.
00:06:24.000 No, no, they conquered Asia Minor, which is Turkey, Anatolia, things like that.
00:06:27.000 And also, I mentioned last week, Luke and I were talking a little bit about tactical nuclear weapons.
00:06:31.000 I said that depleted uranium rounds are a type of tactical nuclear weapon because they have minor amounts of radiation.
00:06:37.000 But, Drew, you were saying they're not classified as nuclear weapons.
00:06:41.000 No, they're strictly conventional weapons.
00:06:42.000 Thanks.
00:06:42.000 Got it.
00:06:43.000 I just want to say, Ian, if we made a sci-fi cartoon about the future, about a guy named Alexander who gets a spaceship and goes and conquers Earth's Minor, that'd be pretty epic space Epic.
00:06:54.000 Yeah, there you go.
00:06:55.000 And then technically you weren't wrong.
00:06:57.000 That's right.
00:06:57.000 Okay, let's retcon this.
00:06:59.000 That's right.
00:07:00.000 And many of you may already know if you tuned in on Friday that Lydia is no longer with the program.
00:07:06.000 She has moved on.
00:07:07.000 She's going to be doing her own thing and we'll shout her out when she's ready for that.
00:07:12.000 But pushing all the buttons today is Serge.
00:07:15.000 Hey guys, nice to meet you.
00:07:16.000 My name is Serge, a.k.a.
00:07:17.000 the new Lydia.
00:07:19.000 Pleasure to be here.
00:07:20.000 Except that guy.
00:07:21.000 Yeah, except I am a guy.
00:07:22.000 Linda Jr.
00:07:24.000 Nice hair, too.
00:07:24.000 Yes.
00:07:25.000 Linda Jr.
00:07:27.000 Thanks, I appreciate it, guys.
00:07:28.000 Glad to be here.
00:07:28.000 Alright, let's jump into this first story we've got from the Jerusalem Post.
00:07:32.000 Russian Strikes Hits German Diplomatic Office in Kiev.
00:07:36.000 Report.
00:07:37.000 The German embassy in Kiev was hit by Russian airstrikes on Monday, German media outlet Bild reported.
00:07:42.000 However, the building has not been in use since the war broke out, the foreign ministry said.
00:07:46.000 Russian-born journalist and political scientist Sergei Sumlemy, now based in Berlin, tweeted about the attack, asking for Chancellor Olaf Scholz and other German officials to issue a response to the airstrike.
00:08:00.000 So, okay, they've not been using it.
00:08:02.000 But this is still, if this is the German embassy, this is German territory, right?
00:08:06.000 So what does this mean?
00:08:07.000 Does this mean that Germany is now going to use this as some kind of casus belli, declare war, or is it meaningless?
00:08:15.000 Well, specifically, it was their visa office, and it looked like a lot of these strikes weren't for their intended targets.
00:08:21.000 There was one inside of a playground when Russia, of course, was making a speech saying that this was specific strategic attacks against the infrastructure of Ukraine.
00:08:30.000 The German embassy isn't really infrastructure of Ukraine, but there's a lot of other things happening behind the scenes.
00:08:36.000 I don't think Germany is going to be doing anything with this.
00:08:39.000 I think Germany right now also is having a major bullet shortage.
00:08:43.000 I think that also is something we should be keeping a close eye on, but there's a lot of other things happening with Belarus right now, with Poland telling their citizens to leave Belarus right now.
00:08:53.000 Poland is also checking their bunkers right now to make sure that they're up and running and that they're running properly.
00:08:59.000 So a lot of other things are happening and this is just episode one according to the former Ukrainian president Medvedev of many episodes to come when it comes to these larger strikes that Russia is going to be launching on Ukraine.
00:09:12.000 I will mention this.
00:09:13.000 From the reporting, they're trying to make it seem like, you know, so Germany condemns, you know, Russia's actions in Ukraine.
00:09:19.000 Then all of a sudden, there's an airstrike.
00:09:22.000 One of the strikes happened at a German embassy.
00:09:25.000 And now Germany is set to deliver air defense system to Ukraine within days, according to the defense ministry.
00:09:33.000 So, Reuters reporting Germany will deliver the first of four Iris TSLM air defense systems to Ukraine within days.
00:09:40.000 That's it.
00:09:40.000 Well, there you go.
00:09:41.000 I think what we've seen from NATO for the most part has just been acting like they're not involved, but basically supplying the overwhelming majority of weapons, strategy, intelligence, everything.
00:09:52.000 And then you even have volunteers.
00:09:54.000 Now we do know, last week there was a report by The Intercept that U.S.
00:09:57.000 special operations are underway in Ukraine.
00:09:59.000 So at what point is this just World War III?
00:10:03.000 Well, there's a big concern that the escalation will continue, and it's kind of odd, but the worse it gets for Putin, the worse it really gets for U.S.
00:10:12.000 security, because he's losing the war, clearly, doing poorly.
00:10:17.000 Prospects aren't good for him, so he's a desperate dictator, and he doesn't want to get killed off, knocked out of power, so he's got to change the situation.
00:10:26.000 And to do that, he's got to do one of a couple things.
00:10:28.000 He could use nuclear weapons in the Ukraine.
00:10:31.000 I don't think it would escalate.
00:10:32.000 I think it would destroy a lot of Ukrainian forces.
00:10:35.000 But there is a risk that, you know, it could go to not just using them on the battlefield, but using them near the border where the supplies are coming in from Poland and Germany and U.S.
00:10:45.000 equipment coming in.
00:10:46.000 That gets close to NATO territory and risks that we might get involved.
00:10:51.000 But more likely, and I think more threatening for the United States, is Putin.
00:10:55.000 If he gets into any nuclear exchange with the U.S., he loses from that.
00:11:00.000 We would severely hurt him.
00:11:01.000 We'd, of course, be massively damaged, but it would hurt Russia tremendously.
00:11:06.000 So I think he's more likely to do something like release a virus clandestinely in the United States and West Europe.
00:11:14.000 Something that's not like COVID, but something like human-to-human transmissible avian flu, 60% lethal, highly transmissible, and at that point... 60%?
00:11:22.000 That's a lot.
00:11:23.000 Avian flu, if a human gets avian flu, it's not directly transmissible now, but your tax dollars were used in gain-of-function research to develop human-to-human transmissible, mammal-to-mammal transmissible versions of avian flu, which is 60% lethal to humans.
00:11:41.000 And if he releases that virus, and the way to do that was published in open source literature a decade ago, and so if Russia releases a human-to-human transmissible form of avian flu, it'll spread like mad, and at that point, who cares about Ukraine?
00:11:57.000 We're trying to stay alive over here.
00:11:58.000 It would be an absolute collapse situation in the United States.
00:12:02.000 Already, who cares about Ukraine?
00:12:04.000 We're trying to survive over here.
00:12:05.000 I mean, the economy's in shambles.
00:12:07.000 We've got Biden.
00:12:08.000 They're sending tons of money off to Ukraine.
00:12:10.000 Most Americans can't even point to it on a map, and we're wondering why it is we are actively involved in a border dispute with Russia and Ukraine.
00:12:17.000 I kind of have a little different perspective than you drew just a little bit because I think we're in the stage where not all options have been kind of used here I think this conflict is going to be going back and forth now with the winter coming to Ukraine a lot of the forces are going to be stalled.
00:12:32.000 And I think it's going to be like that for a very long time.
00:12:35.000 I think that the concept of Kissinger limited perpetual war is something that we truly face the reality of, and I see Putin having a lot more options at the table before going nuclear, before even going bioweapon, before even going, you know, full crazy madman as people describe him in the media.
00:12:54.000 Before doing that, I think there's other conventional weapons of war that he could release.
00:12:58.000 There's other attacks he could do on the Ukrainian infrastructure.
00:13:02.000 And I think he's going to be using those methods first, even though the threat of nuclear war is serious, but I think it's less probable than a more aggravated, bigger escalation on the ground, from my perspective.
00:13:14.000 I don't think Putin's yet begun to fight.
00:13:17.000 I think what we've seen, it's like ground forces in the east, now with these missile strikes over Ukraine, I think if Putin wanted to, he could unleash substantially more destruction on the country if he really felt he had to.
00:13:29.000 Yeah, like what we did in Afghanistan and Iraq was nowhere near even an inkling of the capability we had of destruction.
00:13:36.000 Because we didn't want to destroy it, we wanted to conquer it.
00:13:38.000 And he doesn't want to destroy Ukraine, he wants to conquer it.
00:13:40.000 Or at least Eastern Ukraine.
00:13:42.000 Yeah, well, General Petraeus was on recently saying that, you know, he thinks that Russia's in an absolute no-win situation there, and it's getting worse for them.
00:13:49.000 And I tend to agree with that assessment, that Russia has clearly lost this war in a conventional fight.
00:13:55.000 Them mobilizing isn't going to do anything near term.
00:13:59.000 And their troops just are not motivated for understandable reasons.
00:14:02.000 They're not defending Russian homeland, they're invading another country.
00:14:06.000 And so the situation is bad for Putin.
00:14:08.000 It's also horrible for him on the home front.
00:14:11.000 Bad things are going on there.
00:14:12.000 So I think he could now already be in a desperate situation.
00:14:17.000 But he's not going to be desperate.
00:14:18.000 He's a smart, ruthless, evil man.
00:14:20.000 So he's not going to do something desperate like launch a nuclear strike on the United States.
00:14:25.000 That would be incredibly stupid.
00:14:26.000 He is not stupid.
00:14:27.000 He's brilliantly ruthless evil.
00:14:30.000 So what I think he's far more likely to do is release a clandestine bio-attack on the United States.
00:14:36.000 That's the smart thing to do.
00:14:38.000 What's the over-under for small tactical nuclear weapon?
00:14:42.000 What's the betting odds, in your opinion, for this bio-weapon?
00:14:46.000 What do you think is most likely by percentage?
00:14:48.000 I think Putin, if he, the smartest, most effective thing he could do would be to get a distraction that takes Ukraine off the map and gets our support, both the U.S.
00:14:57.000 and the Western European support, eliminated quickly.
00:15:00.000 And, you know, what he did over the weekend?
00:15:02.000 Well, he's got more, now more Western arms coming into the Ukraine.
00:15:06.000 That doesn't really help him.
00:15:07.000 Doesn't change the bad military situation for him.
00:15:10.000 He needs to knock us out of providing support to Ukraine.
00:15:13.000 And our politicians aren't going to back down.
00:15:15.000 That would look bad.
00:15:15.000 It's too much comparisons to Chamberlain in World War II.
00:15:19.000 So he's got to do something different and drastic.
00:15:22.000 And the way to do it is a clandestine, again, not an overt, but a clandestine release of a bioweapon.
00:15:29.000 And they've absolutely got all kinds of viruses.
00:15:31.000 Smallpox, you name it, they've got it.
00:15:34.000 But so they released it over here.
00:15:36.000 And you know, we are not going to be sending arms to Ukraine, certainly I do more military forces into NATO.
00:15:42.000 If we're dealing with a pandemic that's killing off our population and worse, it's unleashing loss of law and order as people are trying to survive.
00:15:51.000 And you've got massive marauding going on across the United States and millions dying from that.
00:15:57.000 How do you if Putin were to release a virus?
00:16:00.000 What's to stop Russia from getting hit by it?
00:16:02.000 Eventually it would spread, but spread a lot more slowly if they release it over here.
00:16:07.000 Not a whole lot of air flight going into Russia right now from the United States or Western Europe.
00:16:11.000 They're already effectively isolated.
00:16:14.000 And the other person who could do this is the North Korean dictator.
00:16:17.000 He's another person, you know, he's at the bottom rank of effective, good places, you know, powerful nations.
00:16:25.000 If there's a pandemic worldwide, great place to be would be North Korea.
00:16:30.000 You don't have international travel.
00:16:33.000 Everyone else now gets destroyed.
00:16:35.000 We could lose most of our population.
00:16:37.000 Western Europe, most of that.
00:16:39.000 Everyone else comes down in power and prestige.
00:16:42.000 And North Korea now isn't so much at the bottom.
00:16:45.000 They're a country that survived the mess.
00:16:46.000 I'd rather be in North Korea than South Korea when there's an international pandemic of avian flu spreading.
00:16:52.000 But what people sometimes don't take into account is clean water, the ability to wash yourself with soap and clean water and how that can help you overcome a disease.
00:17:00.000 So like people in North Korea that are literally sometimes eating other people because they're starving might end up being much sicker from a disease even if there's less of a load in the environment because they don't have access to the same kind of treatments that we do.
00:17:14.000 Correct, but if that virus kills off most of South Korea and North Korea can evade it, they can now take South Korea after the virus has died out when the people are dead in South Korea.
00:17:26.000 Just really quick, is there anything you're seeing from an intelligence report that suggests that there's a probability that this is going to happen?
00:17:32.000 And again, what's the probability from 0 to 100 that you think this is going to happen?
00:17:36.000 Well, I'm a former intelligence officer, so nothing I say tonight will be release of classified information.
00:17:42.000 In terms of probability, I mean, Nassim Taleb wrote the most important valuable book I've ever read in my life, The Black Swan, The Influence of the Highly Improbable, and he trained you not to talk in probabilities.
00:17:53.000 How can I talk about the probability of something that's never happened before?
00:17:56.000 There's no statistical evidence for me to use.
00:17:59.000 So it's, you know, it's expert guesstimation is the honest term for it.
00:18:04.000 But you know, you can reason from people and from past situations.
00:18:08.000 And Putin, former KGB agent, an absolutely ruthless man, you know, he knows about the power of bioweapons.
00:18:14.000 They've had him in the Soviet Union, their biological weapons program in the Soviet Union had like 60 to 80,000 people working in it.
00:18:21.000 They develop all kinds of agents, and we in the United States continue to do, as I said, gain-of-function research, where we demonstrate it and then publish the results on how to create a mammal-to-mammal contagious, we were using ferrets, version of avian flu, 60% lethality, and we published it.
00:18:41.000 So everyone all over the world, if they want to know how to do it, They've learned it.
00:18:46.000 So he's got the ability to do this and it's a smart thing for him to do and then if he does it clandestinely, he doesn't get punished.
00:18:52.000 But we also got reports that Putin was allegedly terrified of COVID and that he kind of insulated himself away from other people.
00:18:59.000 The way Russia kind of handled COVID I think would also have an impact on that because they didn't really do that good of a job.
00:19:05.000 They did have very strict lockdowns and mandates.
00:19:08.000 They didn't really work just like anywhere else.
00:19:10.000 Do you see that kind of playing into this larger decision?
00:19:14.000 And we don't have to get into, you know, obvious intelligence reports and classified information, but do you think it's more likely than a small tactical nuclear weapon?
00:19:22.000 I think a limited use of battlefield nuclear weapons is a highly likely thing and I think release of viruses highly likely both in there be there's no way for me to estimate the probability.
00:19:32.000 I'm not even sure Putin would know at this point unless he's already made the decision and issued the order.
00:19:36.000 What would battlefield nuclear weapons look like?
00:19:38.000 Like what's an example of one and how would it play out?
00:19:41.000 Sure.
00:19:41.000 Well, a battlefield nuclear weapon, I distinguish between battlefield use, theater use, which is more like a longer range strike into, for example, the eastern parts of the Ukraine near the border of Poland, for example.
00:19:54.000 But battlefield use is limited to attacking other combat troops.
00:19:57.000 It's probably going to be an airburst, not a ground detonation.
00:20:00.000 They don't want the fallout coming into the Russian territory.
00:20:03.000 But you can do a low yield.
00:20:05.000 It could be less than a kiloton.
00:20:07.000 For example, Hiroshima is about 15 kilotons.
00:20:10.000 It could be a 1 kiloton.
00:20:11.000 It could be less than a kiloton.
00:20:14.000 We unilaterally dismantled and destroyed our tactical battlefield nuclear weapons back in 1991, the first George Bush president.
00:20:14.000 We gave up.
00:20:23.000 It got nothing in return.
00:20:25.000 Why isn't he?
00:20:25.000 Russia kept theirs, China's kept and expanded and modernized theirs.
00:20:29.000 They still have them.
00:20:30.000 So they could absolutely annihilate Ukrainian ground forces.
00:20:37.000 Why isn't he?
00:20:38.000 Why is Putin not yet using low yield nukes to just clear the field and take the land?
00:20:43.000 Because he hasn't been in a desperate enough situation thus far.
00:20:46.000 Once you do that, you know, it is an escalation.
00:20:50.000 There is a risk that, you know, potentially... I'll give you one example.
00:20:55.000 Once this happens and he gets away with it, I think he would get away with it.
00:20:59.000 The U.S.
00:20:59.000 is not going to respond with a nuclear attack on Russia if they do a nuclear detonation in Ukraine.
00:21:05.000 That would be insane for President Biden to do.
00:21:08.000 He would not do that.
00:21:10.000 So, if they do that, and he gets away with it, now what's going to happen to nuclear non-proliferation?
00:21:14.000 Because we've told all our NATO members, and Japan, and so many countries, we will protect you with our nuclear umbrella, and it's not believable.
00:21:22.000 It's never been credible, and this will prove that it's not credible.
00:21:26.000 That we will not use nuclear weapons, most likely, even to defend our allies in Ukraine, you know, thus far is not a NATO member, not an ally we have to defend.
00:21:35.000 I've been saying basically this for a while and I've had a lot of people argue with me that I said mutually assured destruction is just, that's not true.
00:21:42.000 This idea that, I suppose the idea is if Russia decides to nuke D.C.
00:21:48.000 then the U.S.
00:21:49.000 will fire back at Moscow or something like that.
00:21:51.000 But what I was saying is that this idea that the use of nuclear weapons in general results in everyone just firing nukes and blowing everybody up.
00:21:58.000 In fact, there's one really obvious reason why NATO will not nuke back in the war.
00:22:03.000 The war's in Ukraine.
00:22:04.000 Russia's invaded the eastern region.
00:22:07.000 Putin can fire nukes into Ukraine anywhere he wants and cause as much damage as he wants because he's trying to take it.
00:22:12.000 NATO does not want to destroy Ukraine.
00:22:16.000 They're trying to push Russia out.
00:22:18.000 So theoretically, if Russia moves too far into Ukraine, say in the eastern region, then maybe they'll use nukes there, but they'd be effectively losing by doing it, cutting off their nose to spite their face.
00:22:28.000 Well, a couple things I worry about here is that we're in a desperate situation.
00:22:33.000 I think the Russians, in some instances, are desperate.
00:22:35.000 I think the Ukrainians are also desperate here, and they know that they're facing a lot of very tough odds here.
00:22:41.000 They have a lot of support, but at the end of the day, Russia still has a lot more manpower.
00:22:44.000 Russia still has a lot more bullets.
00:22:46.000 Even though there's a lot of countries sending them bullets.
00:22:49.000 Germany has a bullet shortage.
00:22:50.000 I think this is more significant than we're... that of course is not being talked about here.
00:22:56.000 I think in this desperation we shouldn't rule out the possibility of someone staging an attack or staging an incident that would escalate this situation and possibly get other countries involved here.
00:23:06.000 Right now we have Belarus do a joint military task force with Russia.
00:23:10.000 They're mobilizing on the Ukrainian border.
00:23:12.000 They've been mobilizing for a couple months now.
00:23:14.000 But I think we're in a situation where the history of previous world wars is rhyming and what happened then was other countries got involved and I think there's a big possibility that Ukraine in their desperation or Russia in their desperation could stage an event that could be the galvanizing event that could launch a bigger conflict here that would move beyond this proxy war between Russia and the United States.
00:23:36.000 Do you think that's a possibility?
00:23:38.000 Yeah, it's absolutely true that that could happen.
00:23:41.000 People like to make comparisons back in history, as you mentioned, back to World War II.
00:23:45.000 Hitler didn't have nuclear weapons, nor did he have biological weapons or the ability to release them in the United States.
00:23:52.000 Putin does.
00:23:53.000 So you've got a corner dog, a guy who's desperate, wants to retain power, and we should not be provoking him.
00:24:01.000 I'm glad to support Ukraine if we can, but we should not be pushing Russia and Putin, a desperate man, into a situation where he feels like the only way I'm going to stay alive and stay in power is to knock the U.S.
00:24:13.000 and Western European support out of Ukraine.
00:24:16.000 And I do that either with escalating with nuclear weapons, which is really risky for me because they could eventually retaliate with nuclear weapons against me, or I could be smart about it and just release a biological agent that starts a horrible pandemic in the US and West Europe.
00:24:30.000 I think you do the latter.
00:24:31.000 Now, I just want to talk about this biological agent because, you know, you bring it up a couple times.
00:24:37.000 In the 1957 to 1958 avian flu pandemic that killed two million people, and they say it's not as effective as a bioweapon because the host usually dies and transmission is less likely when we have such a very strong virus.
00:24:49.000 Do you have any counter evidence or is there a new type of thing that you know about from your work in intelligence That says that this is going to be different than the 1957-1958 avian flu pandemic.
00:25:00.000 Sure, that's a very low lethality virus.
00:25:02.000 I mean, it's worse than avian flu, but you're talking about like 1% lethality.
00:25:06.000 For example, the so-called misnamed Spanish flu back at the end of World War I, 1919-1920 time frame.
00:25:13.000 That was like a 1.5% lethality rate.
00:25:17.000 Avian flu is way less.
00:25:19.000 Not, I'm sorry, avian flu is way better.
00:25:20.000 I'm sorry, COVID-19 is like way, you know, it's 0.001 lethality.
00:25:25.000 Very, very low.
00:25:26.000 But avian flu, as I said, is 60% lethal.
00:25:28.000 Now, when you modify it, you may get a different lethality rate.
00:25:32.000 It may be a lot lower.
00:25:33.000 It may be higher.
00:25:33.000 I don't know.
00:25:34.000 You're changing the virus.
00:25:35.000 Yeah, but the question I have is if people are getting it and dying right away, the virus won't spread as fast.
00:25:40.000 Correct.
00:25:40.000 Viruses, generally, it's better for them not to be too highly lethal.
00:25:43.000 You kill off all your hosts.
00:25:45.000 Well, it's really simple.
00:25:47.000 I mean, gain-of-function research, you get a virus, you get something as lethal as an avian flu, but you engineer it to have a two-week delay in symptom onset.
00:25:56.000 That's the worst.
00:25:57.000 That's the third thing.
00:25:58.000 I mean, I've been talking about transmissibility and lethality, but Tim, you just brought up the third really bad thing.
00:26:03.000 If it's got a latency period where I'm contagious, I'm spreading the virus, but I don't have any symptoms yet, Then you're really, really screwed over.
00:26:13.000 We were talking about this last week that, you know, look, nuclear weapons, the advent of which was over 80 years ago.
00:26:20.000 You get this report published in 1938.
00:26:22.000 I can't remember who shouted that out.
00:26:24.000 Was that Will who mentioned that?
00:26:27.000 1938 on the scientific paper on fission.
00:26:29.000 And then all of a sudden, everybody gets the idea, like, you could make a bomb with that.
00:26:33.000 And then finally we did, and what was the, it was a Fat Man, was it like a 15 kiloton bomb or something like that?
00:26:39.000 It was the name of one of them, it was Fat Man.
00:26:40.000 They're both about 15, 20 kilotons.
00:26:42.000 That's nothing!
00:26:44.000 15, 20 kilotons, nothing compared to the nukes that they currently have today, especially with MIRVs, when they have multiple warheads.
00:26:52.000 But bringing that up, I mean this is old technology.
00:26:54.000 You'd have to imagine they've developed different and new capabilities in modern warfare that we don't know about and we won't know about until they do.
00:27:02.000 I think, fair point, biological weapons seems to be the route to take.
00:27:06.000 Yeah, who knows what Peter Daszak and the CIA are doing with Echo Health Alliance with Dr. Fauci's funding still as they got funded again.
00:27:13.000 But I think there's also another important aspect You know, viruses usually don't spread well without any kind of symptoms.
00:27:19.000 Sneezing, coughing is how viruses usually spread.
00:27:22.000 If they develop something new, I don't know, but this would be end of the world.
00:27:26.000 You launch a bioweapon, it's going to affect everyone.
00:27:28.000 Spread it through the food supply.
00:27:30.000 COVID was found in ice cream.
00:27:31.000 It can live in animal fat.
00:27:32.000 You got to watch out for food.
00:27:33.000 Just from my assessment, my research, I do think smaller escalations, more attacks on the infrastructure in Ukraine, and I think Yeah, yeah, but hold on.
00:27:49.000 We're not, like, I don't know if this is what you're saying, but my view is not that Putin right now is just like, eh, flu.
00:27:55.000 No, he goes with artillery, he goes nuclear artillery, he goes tactical nukes.
00:28:00.000 In the event of total desperation, when with US involvement getting too heavy, and his conventional methods not working, and his escalation not working, I think I would agree that someone, maybe it's Putin, maybe it's not, someone's going to try and knock out the US economy, either by, you know, well, I would assume a clever way to hit the United States clandestinely, as you mentioned, is a bioweapon.
00:28:21.000 Yes.
00:28:22.000 And remember back in March, the Russians were putting out propaganda saying, hey, the US has these biological weapons programs in the Ukraine.
00:28:31.000 And why in the world were they doing it?
00:28:32.000 It made no sense.
00:28:34.000 But they were talking about gain-of-function research and alleged that we were doing bioweapons work with the Ukrainians.
00:28:39.000 This was going on in March of this year.
00:28:42.000 With Ukrainians?
00:28:42.000 Correct.
00:28:43.000 So he was trying to lay the pretext.
00:28:46.000 Why would he do that?
00:28:47.000 The only logical reason for the Russians to do that is because they're trying to set the stage for saying, hey, these biological weapons are coming out.
00:28:54.000 It ain't us.
00:28:55.000 It's the U.S.
00:28:57.000 and the Ukrainians releasing it.
00:28:59.000 And so we were concerned about that a lot.
00:29:01.000 It was written on that and we pushed back saying, hey, this is nonsense.
00:29:04.000 But why wouldn't the U.S.
00:29:05.000 be doing it?
00:29:07.000 Why wouldn't we do we want?
00:29:08.000 We're building bio labs to make weapons.
00:29:11.000 Well we signed the treaty saying we would not use biological weapons in warfare and I think and I think we're following that but you know I think it's very probable that people could do that and he could be doing it tomorrow.
00:29:22.000 Well, if you remember, in Ukraine, the U.S.
00:29:24.000 corporate media and political establishment first said, there's no bioweapons, there's no biolab facilities in Ukraine.
00:29:29.000 And then the Secretary of State, Under Assistant Secretary, came out and said, there's medical facilities in Ukraine we got to get to immediately before the Russians get to.
00:29:37.000 And everyone's like, yeah, we're doing research there.
00:29:39.000 What kind of research?
00:29:40.000 Gain-of-function research.
00:29:41.000 trying to take a virus and make it the most lethal, the most dangerous virus that we can in the name of science, even though many scientists argue that there hasn't been any gain-of-function done for any kind of scientific discovery, but predominantly done to have bioweapons out there.
00:29:56.000 So when you look at the United States, Barack Obama banned gain-of-function research.
00:30:01.000 Donald Trump, for some reason, allowed it to happen, and that's when Dr. Fauci, Peter Daszak, EcoHealth Alliance went to Wuhan, China, and then started to do the COVID bat coronavirus research
00:30:12.000 there. Now they're doing it again under Joe Biden, but now they're doing in Myanmar, Laos, and
00:30:17.000 Vietnam. Again, Peter Daszak doing gain-of-function research on COVID coronavirus. I don't
00:30:22.000 know if you heard of these, but this is something eye-opening. And of course, there was also
00:30:26.000 similar gain-of-function research being done in Ukraine as well. Well, let me for a second defend the
00:30:31.000 gain-of-function research as I've already, you know, attacked it.
00:30:34.000 But the reason we do it is also avian flu is naturally mutating all the time.
00:30:39.000 Every virus does.
00:30:40.000 And biologists have been warning us for a long time now, congressional testimony even, saying avian flu will probably mutate to be human-human transmissible, even if humans aren't screwing around with it, trying to deliberately do that.
00:30:55.000 So that's why we're doing the gain-of-function research on avian flu.
00:30:58.000 It is eventually going to develop.
00:31:00.000 I mean, swine flu comes to pigs, develops, mutates.
00:31:04.000 But we're not talking about that.
00:31:04.000 So it's going to happen.
00:31:05.000 So they're doing the gain of function research because we want to have a human-human transmissible form of avian flu now so we can develop vaccines for it.
00:31:14.000 That's why they're doing it.
00:31:15.000 That's a legitimate reason.
00:31:16.000 I could understand the argument for it, but that's not what they're doing.
00:31:18.000 They're doing coronavirus research that has no probability of ever realizing in real life because of natural circumstances.
00:31:29.000 Yes, so I have this tweet from Tulsi Gabbard calling out Victoria Nuland saying, quote, Ukraine has biological research facilities which in fact we are quite concerned that Russian troops may be seeking to gain control of.
00:31:40.000 We are working with Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach.
00:31:47.000 So the issue now becomes trust.
00:31:49.000 We have a quote from Victoria Nuland that there are biological research facilities in Ukraine, that there was emails released from the Hunter Biden laptop, which were confirmed by the Daily Mail and the New York Post, that he was working on getting some funding, which went to, I think it went to a third party and then to these labs.
00:32:06.000 I don't think he was directly working with the labs, but now we're talking semantics.
00:32:10.000 The question is, Am I supposed to just trust the U.S.
00:32:13.000 is the one not doing this, and Putin, of course, is the unrepentant evil who is doing it?
00:32:19.000 Or am I supposed to look at this and just be like, it's war.
00:32:22.000 The U.S.
00:32:23.000 would be insane not to be engaged in researching advanced weaponry, defense systems, vaccines, or whatever.
00:32:29.000 And why wouldn't Russia as well?
00:32:31.000 And at the very least, why would I assume that they have these biological research facilities
00:32:35.000 with dangerous pathogens and they're not understanding that whether the intention of the research is make a weapon,
00:32:43.000 that weapons can arise from this.
00:32:44.000 I mean, to go back to nuclear weapons, the 1938 paper on nuclear fission,
00:32:49.000 wasn't a paper on how to make nuclear bombs, but they saw and went, we can make a bomb with that.
00:32:53.000 So the research they're doing here in Ukraine with these bio facilities, they could be like,
00:32:57.000 hey, if we release that, it's a weapon, right?
00:33:00.000 I do not believe the United States is developing biological weapons.
00:33:04.000 You know, there's a lot of people who like to spread conspiracy theories in government.
00:33:09.000 Hold on, hold on.
00:33:10.000 What's a weapon?
00:33:11.000 A weapon is something designed to be used to kill your enemy.
00:33:15.000 So I think we're doing gain-of-function research for legitimate reasons.
00:33:18.000 So we've got the bad virus so we can develop vaccines for it, antidotes, treatment methods, and understand it.
00:33:26.000 So why do it with the COVID virus?
00:33:27.000 I get that, but is dynamite a weapon?
00:33:30.000 It can be used that way, correct.
00:33:31.000 Can any gain-of-function pathogen be used as a weapon?
00:33:33.000 Yes, it can be.
00:33:34.000 Then you're saying they are making bioweapons.
00:33:36.000 In terms of developing it as a weapon program, no.
00:33:38.000 The United States is not doing that.
00:33:40.000 But see, you're arguing intent, and we can't read anybody's mind.
00:33:42.000 So the question is, when Alfred Nobel, he's the guy who made dynamite, right?
00:33:46.000 And then they called him the Merchant of Death.
00:33:47.000 It was intended, I believe, for mining.
00:33:50.000 You can put it, and then you can mine.
00:33:52.000 Instead, it started being used as a weapon, which was not his intention.
00:33:55.000 Nuclear fission, same thing.
00:33:56.000 It was not intended to make a bomb.
00:33:57.000 He made a bomb out of it.
00:33:58.000 If the U.S.
00:33:59.000 has labs that are making dangerous pathogens, it's not a question of whether or not we can argue the semantics over it's weaponized or a weapon or the intent was to make it a weapon.
00:34:10.000 The fact of the matter is the U.S.
00:34:12.000 has labs in Ukraine that are dealing with and advancing dangerous pathogens.
00:34:16.000 Well, I don't know what they were working on there, if it was a dangerous pathogen or not, but every country around the world has biological research.
00:34:23.000 The CRISPR technology, the bioengineering technology, it's all over the world.
00:34:27.000 There's no turning back the clock.
00:34:29.000 By the way, I don't want to get into the details, but the way to make avian flu is not a high-tech CRISPR technology, it's low-tech.
00:34:38.000 Any Unabomber terrorist, Any small terrorist group could do this.
00:34:43.000 You don't need high-tech biology stuff to make avian flu.
00:34:46.000 Mammal to mammal, human to human.
00:34:48.000 Real quick, real quick, real quick.
00:34:50.000 If a guy was making dynamite in his garage, would we say he's not making weapons?
00:34:55.000 No, he could be using it for good or bad purposes.
00:34:57.000 We don't know what he's doing it for, what his intention is, but he builds a lab to make dynamite, he's going to get arrested and charged.
00:35:03.000 It's inevitable that we are going to have pandemics.
00:35:05.000 I had an article published in the American Interest back in 2016 called The Age of Bioengineered Pandemics and Collapse, because we cannot stop this.
00:35:14.000 It is going to happen.
00:35:16.000 There's natural mutations, but there's so many people with this technology.
00:35:20.000 It's so widespread, so relatively easy to do, that it is going to happen.
00:35:25.000 And experts have testified before Congress.
00:35:28.000 Warning is going to happen, but has Congress done anything?
00:35:30.000 Nothing.
00:35:31.000 Just as they've done nothing about our electric system.
00:35:34.000 There was a congressionally funded EMP study decades ago saying that our electric system is our Achilles heel.
00:35:40.000 It's very vulnerable.
00:35:42.000 Even North Korea with one inaccurate low-yield nuclear weapon could take down the U.S.
00:35:48.000 electric system for over a year.
00:35:49.000 There's a documentary out right now called Grid Down, Power Up that gives you all the explanation of how our electric system is a disaster waiting to happen.
00:35:59.000 Any enemy could exploit to take us down, and the estimate from that congressional study was that when the electric grid goes down, and they're talking about an EMP event that takes out the transformers that take a long time, very difficult to replace, the estimate was you could lose 90% of the US population dead.
00:36:20.000 Not just because of, you know, there's no electricity, there's no food production, there's no water systems.
00:36:25.000 Also because people aren't just gonna, you know, stay at home and, you know, quietly, politely die.
00:36:30.000 They're gonna go out to steal food and water to survive.
00:36:33.000 You'll have massive loss of law and order, massive marauding.
00:36:37.000 And people are going to get killed.
00:36:38.000 Their estimate was you could lose 90% of the population.
00:36:41.000 So Congress knows about that.
00:36:43.000 They know about bioweapons threat.
00:36:45.000 The Johns Hopkins biological experts have testified over and over before Congress, warning about avian flu, warning about bioengineering, but there's no votes in prevention and preparedness.
00:36:56.000 They don't do anything about it.
00:36:58.000 And so we're left in the position where there was another documentary by, I think it was Vice, called While the Rest of Us Die.
00:37:05.000 So they've got Mount Weather, they've got Raven Rock, all these places they can survive, but the rest of us, there's nothing being done for us.
00:37:13.000 It's not far away, Mount Weather.
00:37:15.000 I have a million things I want to bring up right now that I have jotted down, so hopefully I'll get to all of them.
00:37:19.000 I think the United States military-industrial complex would be foolish not to develop weapons that other countries are developing as well.
00:37:25.000 I think from a strategic point of view, it wouldn't make sense for the United States not to engage in this.
00:37:30.000 You said a lot of the research is being done to help people to prevent and create vaccines, but the United States had an official biological weapons program where they weaponized anthrax, Q fever, and many others previously before.
00:37:42.000 Why would they stop now?
00:37:43.000 What evidence do you have that they stopped?
00:37:45.000 And as you previously mentioned, you said that the United States is doing this to help people, this gain of function is to help people, but We just talked about the COVID coronavirus.
00:37:55.000 Why were they doing that research when there was no natural ability for that virus to be realized in human life?
00:38:01.000 Why were they officially doing that project when there was no particular need for it?
00:38:05.000 Well, let me do the first part.
00:38:07.000 We have stopped developing biological weapons.
00:38:09.000 We once signed a treaty saying we wouldn't, and our government is largely full of good people who do, you know, the right thing.
00:38:15.000 We don't have a biological weapon.
00:38:18.000 I'm sorry, I have to push back on that.
00:38:20.000 Let me do number two before you... So the number two thing is, we have nuclear weapons.
00:38:25.000 So if Putin does release a biological weapon against us, and we know it's Putin, can prove it's Putin, our responses will nuke the hell out of you.
00:38:34.000 You can't prove it.
00:38:35.000 Well, we might be able to.
00:38:36.000 But that's our policy.
00:38:39.000 That's the other reason we give up biological weapons, is we have nuclear weapons.
00:38:42.000 But we signed that treaty with Russia.
00:38:43.000 If you use biological weapons against us, the logical user responses, we'll nuke the hell out of you.
00:38:49.000 Is the EU in any way working on biological weapons?
00:38:53.000 Probably not.
00:38:54.000 What if the US, you're right, they are abiding by this treaty, and so in fact the bioweapons research was happening in a country like Ukraine, which is not a NATO or EU member state.
00:39:03.000 Soon to be.
00:39:04.000 Our government said they weren't and I do trust our government when they said the Ukraine was not doing a biological weapons program.
00:39:10.000 What about chemical weapons?
00:39:11.000 The Secretary of State, Undersecretary, officially launched that there's biological research facilities in Ukraine.
00:39:17.000 Why would the United States not do that program domestically?
00:39:20.000 Why would they choose a poor country that's known for corruption, To do scientific experiments that are known to be dangerous.
00:39:26.000 That sounds the alarms to a lot of people who are saying this is circumstantial evidence that they're doing this biological dangerous research in their country not to have any fallout or responsibility here in the United States.
00:39:38.000 This is the undersecretary.
00:39:40.000 This is the undersecretary of state.
00:39:42.000 And it leaks.
00:39:43.000 It doesn't leak in the U.S.
00:39:44.000 Let's make sure we hit the nail on the head with the semantics here.
00:39:47.000 Dangerous pathogens are there.
00:39:49.000 That's what Victoria Nuland said.
00:39:50.000 Biological research facilities are there.
00:39:52.000 Russian troops are trying to gain control of it.
00:39:54.000 There's dangerous pathogens there at these labs.
00:39:56.000 All of that is, according to the U.S.
00:39:58.000 government, true and correct.
00:40:00.000 Now, whether or not you want to argue it's a weapon or not is the intent of the person behind it, and if you can't read their mind, what's the point?
00:40:06.000 Yeah, this is the thing about white phosphorus they used, the American military used in Fallujah in 2004.
00:40:11.000 They called it an incendiary.
00:40:13.000 They said the purpose of this weapon is to light up the battlefield so we can see people.
00:40:17.000 But what they don't say is that the white phosphorus was also melting the skin of the civilians that it was lighting up.
00:40:22.000 So they said, hey, our intention wasn't to hurt people, so it's not a weapon.
00:40:25.000 It's just a lighting up mechanism.
00:40:27.000 Yeah, but it was also an incendiary weapon, so just because you call it research for prevention doesn't mean that it's not also potentially going to wipe out the population.
00:40:36.000 I don't even care about the term research.
00:40:38.000 If they are doing gain-of-function research, they are producing dangerous pathogens, period.
00:40:43.000 Now whether or not... Look, like I mentioned, Alfred Nobel was shocked to discover he was the merchant of death when his obituary was accidentally published.
00:40:50.000 Was he an inventor of a powerful weapon?
00:40:53.000 I don't think that was his intention.
00:40:55.000 And that's why he came out was like, I got to do this Peace Prize thing.
00:40:57.000 But again, if somebody if a guy if the US government said we're gonna be doing we're gonna be built putting up a bunch of plants that build explosives.
00:41:05.000 We would call that weapons research.
00:41:06.000 Yeah, the word weapon is a pejorative.
00:41:08.000 Right, or just call them explosives, call them biological pathogens, call them chemical agents, you know, but whether or not they're weapons is irrelevant.
00:41:16.000 It's all attention-based.
00:41:17.000 My point is, there could be someone in the U.S.
00:41:19.000 government who says, hey, you know what?
00:41:21.000 The U.S.
00:41:21.000 government needs explosives for construction, mining, clearing debris, so we're going to create a bunch of factories that make a variety of explosives.
00:41:30.000 That guy does that.
00:41:31.000 The next guy comes in and says, hey, you got a bunch of weapons here I can use.
00:41:35.000 So we can argue about the definition of weapon, but the fact is the U.S.
00:41:39.000 is making dangerous gain-of-function pathogens.
00:41:42.000 If someone at any point decides to weaponize them, that'll be on them, but they exist and they can be weaponized.
00:41:47.000 Right.
00:41:47.000 I think it's kind of similar to the situation in Lebanon when you had all the buildup of that fertilizer.
00:41:52.000 The fact of the matter was it's a time bomb waiting to happen, waiting for a spark, you know?
00:41:56.000 I think no matter what, there still is fertilizer building up, there still is a situation that's arising, and it's only a matter of time before something kicks off that causes a, you know, a calamity.
00:42:06.000 The worst you can expect.
00:42:07.000 I just mean to say, it doesn't really matter if there's a person, you know, twirling their mustache being like, we're making bioweapons!
00:42:12.000 Because they are like, yeah, we're advancing dangerous pathogens.
00:42:15.000 But don't worry, it's not for weaponizing.
00:42:17.000 It's like, well, a bad person can get them.
00:42:19.000 A bad person can get elected.
00:42:20.000 A bad person can get promoted.
00:42:21.000 A bad person can force their way in.
00:42:23.000 And then, there's no, I think, you know, I'm not trying to drag research.
00:42:30.000 I understand, like, you make a good point.
00:42:31.000 The gain of function has a real purpose.
00:42:34.000 The problem is that technology is neutral and bad people will do bad things.
00:42:37.000 So I don't like to jump out and be like, they're making weapons, as much as I'd like to say they're not making weapons.
00:42:42.000 No, they're making dangerous things.
00:42:44.000 It can be weaponized.
00:42:44.000 I remember when they were like, Assad is gassing his own people.
00:42:48.000 We need to invade!
00:42:50.000 You know, come on, guys, keep your eyes open for Putin is dropping biological agents on his own people, but he's doing it in Ukraine first.
00:42:59.000 Come on, guys.
00:43:00.000 I want to jump to this, I guess you can call it a story, this tweet from Interactive Polls.
00:43:06.000 Breaking!
00:43:07.000 NASDAQ falls to two-year low on Monday, minus 1.84%.
00:43:12.000 S&P lost 1.2%.
00:43:13.000 Look at this picture.
00:43:14.000 I mean, there's some green in there.
00:43:15.000 Okay.
00:43:16.000 It's not as bad as that image of when Joe Biden was raising his fists and then people put the collapsing market behind them all in red as that meme.
00:43:24.000 That was a good meme.
00:43:25.000 But we're at a two-year low now, and the stock market has dropped below the levels it was at before Biden became president.
00:43:31.000 So I don't want to make this one political.
00:43:33.000 I want to make this one, this segment, talking about the collapse of the economy more personal for individuals.
00:43:38.000 And ask, you know, ask you, Drew, as we are watching an economic downturn, we're seeing inflation, we're seeing gas prices now go up.
00:43:46.000 My question is, if this trajectory continues, for whatever reason, be it the war or whatever, what happens to the average person's life?
00:43:53.000 You know, so, you know, you as somebody who runs Fortitude Ranch, this recreation and survivalist community, you had to have done all the research in your middle-of-the-class nuclear family, economy hits, what does their life look like and how bad can it get?
00:44:08.000 Well, you know, a lot of people are calling for the recession, so there could be losses of jobs coming, although thus far that hasn't really happened, higher prices.
00:44:16.000 But the thing that's really going to hurt people next year is food prices, not just because of normal inflation everywhere, but because of the lack of fertilizer, since they come largely from the Ukraine and Russia, and we're not getting those.
00:44:28.000 And there's predictions of not just higher food prices, but in some parts of the world you're going to have famine next year, because food production is going to be way, way down.
00:44:37.000 Food prices are going to go way up.
00:44:39.000 And there have been other contributing factors, stupid government policies trying to stop fertilized use in some ways for environmental reasons.
00:44:48.000 But the world is facing a bad famine situation next year, assuming something worse doesn't happen, like releasing a virus this year.
00:44:55.000 Or nuclear war or whatever.
00:44:57.000 So, uh, the average family, somebody who I assume the average person, they don't really pay attention.
00:45:03.000 You know, I was thinking we were talking about the war stuff.
00:45:05.000 I was like, why don't people care about, care about this more?
00:45:08.000 Why are there so many people that we try and talk about?
00:45:10.000 I don't care about war.
00:45:11.000 You know, what's going on in Putin?
00:45:12.000 I don't even know who that is.
00:45:13.000 Ukraine, where is it?
00:45:14.000 And then I'm sitting here, you know, listening to Luke talk about the variety of things the
00:45:18.000 US is engaged in, what Russia's doing, and I'm thinking to myself, this is the kind of
00:45:21.000 stuff that if you don't know about, one day it smacks you in the face.
00:45:25.000 The war erupts, the food shortages, the food prices.
00:45:28.000 For the people that have been paying attention and have done some degree of preparation,
00:45:32.000 they're in a much better position.
00:45:34.000 So with that in mind, let's say this escalates to hyperinflation.
00:45:39.000 Let's say something bad happens.
00:45:41.000 Let's say it's either a nuclear strike, let's say it's a virus or something happens.
00:45:45.000 The average person in the United States, what do you think their day is like when the grid gets hit or when the gases are gone or what happens in the worst case scenario?
00:45:54.000 Well, it's bad news for them.
00:45:56.000 I mean, government's top priority is protecting government.
00:45:58.000 And that's official policy.
00:46:00.000 It's called continuity of government.
00:46:02.000 And any kind of disaster or collapse, your police protection will go down.
00:46:08.000 Because, number one, the priority is to protect the elected officials, the mayors, the governors, everyone else.
00:46:14.000 So, police normally doing patrols in your neighborhood, some of them will be called back to increase protection and care for government officials.
00:46:23.000 You're near Mount Weather here, I won't give out your exact location, but you're not far from Mount Weather.
00:46:27.000 I drove by there about a month ago.
00:46:29.000 I can't believe all the construction going on.
00:46:31.000 Really?
00:46:32.000 Mount Weather, huge construction.
00:46:34.000 And I googled and I can't find why, but they've already got massive facilities and they're expanding them for government officials, but there's nothing done for civil defense is gone in the United States.
00:46:46.000 And there's nothing being done.
00:46:47.000 And the thing that makes me the maddest is there's not even the warnings.
00:46:50.000 Government should be issuing warnings to people about situations like the coming food price jump that we're going to experience, the likelihood of famine because of the, again, the Russia-Ukraine situation.
00:47:03.000 And it just doesn't happen.
00:47:04.000 There's not care for us.
00:47:06.000 It's all about current issues and winning votes and debates that, relative to life and death, are trivial.
00:47:13.000 All right, my favorite city in all this, New York City.
00:47:15.000 What happens when the grid gets hit, when the food stops flowing?
00:47:18.000 It'll be, it'll be, there used to be a saying in the preparedness industry, you know, 48 hours to animal, you know, and 48 hours, it'd take 48 hours for people to realize how bad it's getting and then they turn into their animal instincts and they would kill to survive.
00:47:33.000 I think it's more today, probably more like 48 seconds or 48 minutes to Hannibal because people are aware now that when the grid goes down for example again you ought to watch grid down power up documentary when the grid goes down immediately there is no water system flowing so people are going to start filling their bathtubs everyone does that so within five minutes waters municipal water is gone there's no five minutes yeah if everyone starts filling your bathtub and there's no pumping going on
00:48:02.000 The system shut down.
00:48:03.000 So there's three days' supply in an average supermarket.
00:48:06.000 That'll be gone in the first hour or two.
00:48:08.000 People are going to run to the grocery store.
00:48:10.000 They're either going to pay or, more likely, they'll just start looting.
00:48:13.000 And I think violence will start in the first hours.
00:48:17.000 People stealing and potentially killing to survive.
00:48:20.000 Because they're going to figure out, hey, there's no way you can survive in New York City without an electric system or there's a bad pandemic.
00:48:27.000 I disagree.
00:48:28.000 We were there.
00:48:28.000 Luke, you were there during Sandy, right?
00:48:30.000 Yeah.
00:48:31.000 Yeah, the power was gone for like two weeks in like, lower east side, I think.
00:48:36.000 I think it was a couple days out in the upper west side where all the rich people were.
00:48:39.000 Is that what it was, Luke?
00:48:40.000 It was like 72 hours or something?
00:48:41.000 Yeah.
00:48:42.000 Staten Island got hit really hard.
00:48:44.000 And parts of lower Manhattan got flooded, as well as some parts of Brooklyn.
00:48:47.000 And it wasn't, you know, it wasn't calamity.
00:48:49.000 It wasn't too crazy.
00:48:50.000 I did a clean up in Staten Island.
00:48:52.000 A dude's boat was on the street.
00:48:54.000 It was nuts.
00:48:55.000 The issue was that they could still bring food in.
00:48:58.000 There was still gas, there were still cars.
00:48:59.000 That's localized.
00:49:00.000 I'm talking about national loss of the electric system and national pandemic that's all over the place.
00:49:06.000 So this is what I mean to say is when people have faith, the government exists, aid is coming, they're chill.
00:49:13.000 But if something happens where people, their confidence has to be rocked.
00:49:17.000 So my view is, I don't know about the first hour, I think a lot of people, the smart people, Maybe not even necessarily smart, but the more cutthroat.
00:49:23.000 They're gonna go out and they're gonna get whatever they can as fast as they can.
00:49:26.000 I think most people in New York are gonna be looking around confused and just shrug.
00:49:30.000 I gotta tell you, man, I love telling that story of when I worked for Fusion and the fire alarm went off and everybody just sat around staring at it.
00:49:36.000 As soon as the alarm went off, I got up and left the building.
00:49:38.000 And then people only left the building when the fire department actually ran in with their gear.
00:49:43.000 That's the average person.
00:49:45.000 The grid's gonna go down, they're gonna go, oh, the power's out.
00:49:48.000 I gotta tell you this, a second story.
00:49:49.000 I was working for Fusion, and I'm in New York, and the power goes out, and the alarms go on saying everyone remain calm and remain in the building, and I was like, no thanks, and I left.
00:49:58.000 I'm like, apparently there was a flood, there was a leak that hit something electrical and created a huge risk of fire, but they were like, no, no, no, everyone stay calm, just keep doing your thing.
00:50:07.000 I'm not sticking around for that.
00:50:10.000 I think what's gonna happen in cities like New York, Something bad's really going to happen.
00:50:14.000 And the average person doesn't read the news, doesn't watch the news, doesn't pay attention.
00:50:17.000 And if they do, it's through really bad sources who are lying to them.
00:50:22.000 And so they're going to sit there and they're going to be told, hey everybody, the economy is going to be fine.
00:50:26.000 Just stay home for the day.
00:50:28.000 A day goes by, the food's gone, the water's gone, the economy's gone, their money's worthless.
00:50:31.000 These people are gonna lose it. They're either- I mean, most of these people are probably gonna get-
00:50:35.000 the marauders are gonna come for them. These people don't seem like the kind of people who
00:50:38.000 are gonna be able to survive, but some of these guys are gonna just go around and become marauders.
00:50:43.000 Poor NPCs.
00:50:45.000 I don't know.
00:50:45.000 There's a lot of obese people in the United States.
00:50:47.000 I think they have a lot of extra fat that they're going to, of course, depend on.
00:50:51.000 And I'll think they're probably going to TiVo American Gladiators or some sports balls and then let their fat whittle away and start some fasting.
00:51:01.000 That's not by their choice, but obviously it all depends on, there's a number of scenarios happening.
00:51:07.000 I wanted to ask you, Drew, from all your work, especially with intelligence, what do you think is the most likely scenario and situation, especially after coming out of COVID, that could lead to the worst case scenario?
00:51:18.000 What do you think is the most impactful, the most likely situation?
00:51:22.000 Well, at Fort Hood Ranch, we actually track 50, we call them, trigger events that could lead to a collapse.
00:51:27.000 And the ones that we rate as, you know, ignoring Ukraine right now in the current situation.
00:51:31.000 But overall, we rank a pandemic, a really bad pandemic, as the most likely event that's going to happen.
00:51:39.000 And, you know, we've had biologists warning us that we're actually overdue for a really bad pandemic.
00:51:44.000 The influenza ones tend to come in cycles.
00:51:47.000 We're kind of overdue for that.
00:51:49.000 And it's so easy to do man-made, and it's so likely that a country like North Korea, or Iran, you know, we're the great Satan to Iran, and again, you know, will the virus spread back to the country that releases it?
00:52:02.000 Yes, but before I release the virus, I can develop vaccines clandestinely, so it won't hurt me when it comes back, or it won't hurt the people I care about in my country if I'm Iran or North Korea.
00:52:13.000 Hold on, hold on, I disagree.
00:52:15.000 And I'll tell you why.
00:52:16.000 Here's what I think would happen.
00:52:17.000 Be it Iran, Russia, North Korea, China, or anybody, they will release the virus in their own country first, but a weaker strain of it.
00:52:25.000 It will have a low mortality, which will result in some death, but most of the people will just get sick and then get over it.
00:52:31.000 Stop giving them ideas, Tim!
00:52:32.000 No, no, this is not giving them ideas.
00:52:34.000 This is what happened with Spanish flu.
00:52:36.000 China, many people, I was reading about the history, like, why didn't China get hit by this?
00:52:41.000 In fact, they did before everyone else did.
00:52:44.000 A weaker strain, but a similar strain, swept across China.
00:52:49.000 Many of them got very, very sick.
00:52:51.000 When the Spanish flu then emerges, I think it was in the United States, but then it was seen in Europe with all the fighting, so that's how it got its name.
00:53:00.000 When this starts spreading, it does make its way back to China, but they already had immunity to it from the weaker virus that had hit them.
00:53:07.000 So I think what would actually happen is a smart country produces two versions, a very weak version and a very strong version.
00:53:13.000 They give themselves the weak version first, then the strong version is released.
00:53:17.000 So when it does come and hit them, mortality is minimal.
00:53:19.000 But the point is, this technology, this ability has never existed before in human history.
00:53:24.000 It's out there now.
00:53:25.000 There's all kinds of forms it could happen with.
00:53:27.000 And, you know, the experts use the word inevitable.
00:53:30.000 We are going to have these kinds of pandemics.
00:53:32.000 But back to your question, Luke, it's not just pandemics.
00:53:35.000 The other really big one, likely one, is our fragile electric system because it's vulnerable in so many ways.
00:53:41.000 We've been talking about, you know, a nuclear EMP attack and North Korea's nuclear weapons.
00:53:46.000 This is open source.
00:53:47.000 This is classified information.
00:53:49.000 The Russians helped them, actually Soviets before Russia, helped them design nuclear weapons that are designed for maximum EMP effect.
00:53:58.000 They don't have to be accurate.
00:53:59.000 They go off in our atmosphere one or two and the U.S.
00:54:02.000 electric grid is toast at that point.
00:54:05.000 There's cyber attack that could take down the grid.
00:54:07.000 There's physical attacks, and they've been done.
00:54:09.000 There was an attack out at a station in California, a very well carried out attack that destroyed the transformers there.
00:54:16.000 Was it a cyber attack?
00:54:18.000 No, a physical attack.
00:54:19.000 There's a lot of solar flares, natural effects can take down our electric grid.
00:54:23.000 That's why, again, you've got to watch this documentary, Grid Down, Power Up.
00:54:26.000 There's so many ways our fragile electric system could go.
00:54:29.000 And when I say go, it's gone for over a year or more.
00:54:34.000 And most Americans will not be alive if it comes back up.
00:54:38.000 We'll be dead.
00:54:38.000 I think we've been hit by cyber attacks recently and you just don't hear about it.
00:54:44.000 There was one story, it was highly speculative, I know, I know, I'm just saying, just a thought.
00:54:49.000 It was around the time that Donald Trump was, an airstrike was on its way to Iran.
00:54:54.000 Trump calls it off and says no.
00:54:56.000 Publicly he says, I did not think that, you know, 500 people who would have died, the loss of life was worth what we would be retaliating for or something to that effect.
00:55:05.000 However, around the same time that the U.S.
00:55:08.000 launches this fleet to go conduct an airstrike, a refinery in Philadelphia explodes.
00:55:14.000 I asked some of my hacker buddies, what is the likelihood that in response to the U.S.
00:55:22.000 engaging in a military operation, Iran conducted a cyber attack against a refinery, blowing it up, and we know they did it, so we backed off.
00:55:30.000 They told me it was very, very low, not very likely, however possible.
00:55:35.000 But just not at all likely.
00:55:37.000 They all basically said, no, no, no, no way, no way, no way.
00:55:39.000 Lottery tickets, chance.
00:55:41.000 But possible, sure, I guess.
00:55:43.000 So my thing is, that was just one example of a scenario where I see this and I'm like, could it have been that they, the cyber attack blew up the petroleum refinery?
00:55:51.000 So then Trump seeing that vulnerability cancels the attack knowing it's going to lead to a greater escalation in cyber warfare?
00:55:56.000 Maybe.
00:55:57.000 Maybe not.
00:55:58.000 Again, I'll stress, my expert buddy said they don't think that was the case based on how it went down.
00:56:02.000 But thinking about that, there have been many circumstances where we've seen various industrial facilities get, you know, have fires start abruptly.
00:56:11.000 And the answer is, Sometimes fire start.
00:56:13.000 Are we hyper focused on this and now we're assuming it's going to be a cyber attack or are we in a normalcy bias that we cannot see that we are actually under attack when we are?
00:56:23.000 How would we even know?
00:56:26.000 And then there's a lot more threats, too.
00:56:29.000 The threat of nanotechnology, some new technologies we keep coming out with.
00:56:33.000 You know, you were talking earlier about unintended consequences.
00:56:36.000 A lot of people working with nanotechnology are concerned about that.
00:56:39.000 Elon Musk is always talking about artificial intelligence.
00:56:43.000 And I think the artificial intelligence threat is very much there, but not in the normal way you see in a movie where the computer becomes, you know, thinking and evil.
00:56:52.000 The bigger threat from artificial intelligence is some terrorist group or a nation, you know, North Korea has tremendous cyber capability, actually programming and releasing a virus, you know, instructing computers Maximize human death through the means you've got.
00:57:08.000 That kind of a system of doing it.
00:57:11.000 But there's many other sources that could lead to disaster beyond pandemics or a vulnerable electric system.
00:57:17.000 Zombies?
00:57:17.000 Other new technologies.
00:57:18.000 Don't have those on the list of 50.
00:57:20.000 What's the overall under on zombies and civil war?
00:57:23.000 Civil War is a big one.
00:57:24.000 And so I was just going to mention one other thing.
00:57:26.000 Ray Dalio is either Nassim Taleb or Ray Dalio are probably the two smartest people alive I know of today.
00:57:33.000 He's the founder of Bridgewater, the most successful hedge fund in history.
00:57:37.000 Yeah, we got to get Ray Dalio on the show.
00:57:39.000 He'll be amazing on the show.
00:57:40.000 So he has estimated recently there's a 30% likelihood of war with China in the near future.
00:57:46.000 That's his estimate.
00:57:47.000 He's a China expert.
00:57:48.000 And he's also said he sees a 30% chance of civil war after the next presidential election.
00:57:53.000 He says, you know, these are not calculated numbers, back to your earlier question.
00:57:58.000 These are guesstimates.
00:57:59.000 But he's a very wise man.
00:58:01.000 His hedge fund, you know, makes its success based on trying to understand how the world is, how things are developing.
00:58:08.000 So, again, on trigger events, 30% chance of a war with China.
00:58:12.000 That could be a nuclear war with nuclear strikes on the homeland.
00:58:16.000 That leads to a collapse because our society is so fragile, so government dependent, and there's just a lot of bad people.
00:58:22.000 And one other thing, you know, I've never seen this anywhere in print or in the media, but a huge threat and vulnerability we face in the United States is the 1.5 million Americans in jail.
00:58:34.000 One and a half million Americans in jail.
00:58:37.000 So when there's a pandemic, a 60% lethal pandemic, do you think guards are going to go to work and risk?
00:58:44.000 They're not going to go to work.
00:58:45.000 If the electric grid goes down, how do prisons work?
00:58:48.000 I used to be a county commissioner.
00:58:50.000 I've been in jails.
00:58:51.000 Jails cannot function without electricity.
00:58:54.000 That's how you control all the doors.
00:58:56.000 It's all electric.
00:58:57.000 Will they open or will they stay locked?
00:58:59.000 They are probably going to come open.
00:59:00.000 I mean, there's generator backup.
00:59:02.000 Hospitals will claim, oh, we've got generator backup.
00:59:04.000 They've got backup for maybe three days at the most.
00:59:07.000 That's a good thing.
00:59:07.000 So you can have one and a half million Americans, most of them aren't bad criminals, but a lot of them are who are in jail and they have absolutely no preparedness.
00:59:16.000 They've got no house.
00:59:16.000 They've got no food.
00:59:17.000 So when they get out of their jails, either released or they just get out on their own, what are they going to do?
00:59:22.000 They're gonna maraud. It's the only way they're gonna stay alive. They don't have a house. They don't have home and
00:59:27.000 food and water.
00:59:28.000 They've got to go out and steal from other people, probably kill them in the process to survive.
00:59:33.000 No one ever talks about that. Our government is not getting us prepared for events that experts say are inevitable.
00:59:41.000 I disagree on the prison thing though. Prisons would be one of the safest and most secure places to remain.
00:59:47.000 So if you're there, you've got a bunch of guys, you've already got gangs, so if there's no more guards, there might be a lot of infighting.
00:59:57.000 If that is the case, the end result is going to be someone who owns a fortress now.
01:00:00.000 They may go and maraud, but they're going to use the prison as like a fortress base of operations and control it.
01:00:07.000 And there's weapons in there.
01:00:08.000 So they are instantly going to be armed, Armored and determined and have facilities and it's it's gonna be night.
01:00:16.000 It's it's look I'll say it's worse than you're you're predicting prisoners will get out and go maraud They're gonna have a fortress base of operations with weapons and then you know They're gonna go out and go on their patrols and you probably I mean, maybe you'll notice they're wearing prison clothes But it's not gonna matter guys with guns are gonna come up and say you work for us now we control this massive fortification so you can't even get to us if you wanted to and That's a worse scenario than I had imagined.
01:00:42.000 Let me ask you about this, though.
01:00:43.000 You mentioned driving past Mount Weather.
01:00:45.000 And so I looked up this story from the U.S.
01:00:48.000 on ready for nuke Armageddon inside doomsday bunkers designed by U.S.
01:00:53.000 government to withstand nuclear apocalypse and restart America in case of wipeout.
01:00:59.000 They say the U.S.
01:01:00.000 government built several doomsday nuclear- Look at these pictures.
01:01:03.000 Why would they even show anybody?
01:01:04.000 This is Cheyenne Mountain.
01:01:06.000 Can withstand a 30 megaton nuclear bomb.
01:01:08.000 Oh, okay.
01:01:09.000 So you mean it can't withstand the Satan 2 missile?
01:01:12.000 What's the point?
01:01:12.000 Thanks for telling us.
01:01:13.000 I gotta tell you, I see these videos- I'm sorry, I see these photos, these stories about Mount Weather.
01:01:18.000 Am I really supposed to believe that Raven Rock, Mount Weather, these facilities are the legitimate facilities for our government when we all know they exist?
01:01:26.000 And 30 megatons, is that it?
01:01:28.000 Come on.
01:01:29.000 So our bomber was 100 at full capacity.
01:01:31.000 Not that they're going to get a bomber over it.
01:01:33.000 Yeah, but taking out an underground fortified facility is not easy.
01:01:37.000 You have to have tremendously good accuracy.
01:01:39.000 I grew up in Lincoln, Nebraska, 60 miles from off at Air Force Base Strategic Air Command headquarters, you know, one of the top nuclear targets.
01:01:47.000 I remember reading one day that the accuracy of Russian-Soviet missiles is about 50 miles.
01:01:54.000 Although that's great, they're going to aim it off and they're going to hit me and Lincoln.
01:01:58.000 They're not that accurate.
01:01:59.000 Now that's improved a lot.
01:02:00.000 Our weapons have improved a lot.
01:02:02.000 But when was the last time we even detonated a nuclear weapon?
01:02:04.000 It's been about 30 years we got rid of underground nuclear testing.
01:02:09.000 No, I'm saying they've got to have other bunkers.
01:02:11.000 take out something like Mount Weather, it'd have to be very, very accurate.
01:02:15.000 Weapon would have to have, you know, its full yield.
01:02:17.000 But why, and they're probably not going to have that accuracy.
01:02:20.000 So I think they will survive in Mount Weather.
01:02:21.000 No, I'm saying they've got to have other bunkers.
01:02:23.000 We don't know.
01:02:24.000 Well, they have a lot of them.
01:02:25.000 Their site are, there's quite a few in Pennsylvania.
01:02:27.000 Again, you guys are in kind of in a bad place for nuclear weapons here.
01:02:30.000 I disagree, actually.
01:02:31.000 You got David, you got the Pentagon, you got DC, you got Malweather, you got Site R. They're not that accurate.
01:02:38.000 So if they're aiming at them, they could end up landing on you.
01:02:41.000 I think, well first, before we get into the nuclear stuff, I wanted to ask you about driving past Mount Weather.
01:02:44.000 They're doing construction there.
01:02:46.000 Oh, a lot of it.
01:02:46.000 And that's above ground, and most of it's underground, so I can't imagine what's going on underground.
01:02:51.000 So it's already been a huge FEMA facility.
01:02:53.000 We gotta get some reporting on this.
01:02:55.000 We gotta send somebody to go interview somebody.
01:02:56.000 To get disappeared, you mean?
01:02:58.000 To lightly request an interview.
01:03:01.000 The government is very secretive, especially about their other facilities that they don't talk about, that there's no pictures of, that there's no talking about.
01:03:09.000 There's a lot of underground facilities that the United States has been investing in.
01:03:13.000 There's a reason the Pentagon has secret clandestine black budgets.
01:03:17.000 There's a reason why so much money is missing from the federal coffers, because a lot of times they're spending it on a lot of top-secret projects that are underground facilities that they have already implemented that no one even knows about.
01:03:29.000 What's the gist of this?
01:03:31.000 and black gold although all the black sites are in egypt and poland so so
01:03:34.000 places around the world and i'm a torture people but that's a different
01:03:36.000 scenario i'm i'm interested in mount weather is very close to where we are
01:03:39.000 and so what what's what's the gist of this in tell us the basic like what is
01:03:42.000 it shorts and underground shelter off
01:03:44.000 FEMA defends it on the surface and the military troops will be there as well, but it's a place where congressmen will go.
01:03:50.000 It's fairly close to D.C.
01:03:51.000 so they can whisk them off there and they've got fantastic facilities.
01:03:55.000 They even have media rooms so the congressmen can continue to transmit to their constituents and not lose votes if there's another election, I guess.
01:04:04.000 But they have fantastic facilities where they'll stay alive and nothing is done for the rest of us.
01:04:09.000 You know, we're don't even give us warning.
01:04:11.000 Hey, you might want to do your own preparations.
01:04:13.000 Things are kind of bad.
01:04:14.000 Oh, no, no.
01:04:14.000 That's just for them.
01:04:16.000 The modern left mocks those who would be prepared for even a rainy day.
01:04:20.000 It's it's it's amazing.
01:04:21.000 We've got these these hurricanes, these floods.
01:04:23.000 But is it is a joke.
01:04:25.000 It's it's.
01:04:26.000 It is common urban culture to mock preppers.
01:04:30.000 To assume that anybody who's prepared in any way is some lunatic mountain man.
01:04:33.000 When, you know, I was in Arizona a couple years ago, and it was during the toilet paper conflict.
01:04:40.000 Everyone's fighting over toilet paper.
01:04:41.000 I go to a gas station and some lady, you know, I said, like, how has it been out here?
01:04:45.000 And she's like, this is the middle of nowhere, Arizona.
01:04:47.000 It's like a weird little rest stop.
01:04:48.000 And she's like, oh, we're good.
01:04:49.000 We're preppers.
01:04:50.000 So we've got like three months worth of toilet paper already, so we haven't noticed anything.
01:04:53.000 And I started laughing, and I was like, you know what?
01:04:55.000 While they're all fighting in Walmart over toilet paper, they're making fun of you for having it.
01:04:59.000 It's the craziest thing.
01:05:00.000 Yeah, well, the image of preppers and preparedness has improved a lot over the past couple years.
01:05:05.000 It's partly COVID-19, but it's really less COVID-19 than things like Portland and all the unrest that was going on.
01:05:11.000 People saw how If people start protesting, start looting, police cannot stop it.
01:05:16.000 I'm not criticizing police.
01:05:18.000 There just aren't many of them compared to people.
01:05:21.000 If a lot of people start breaking the law, start looting, start doing whatever they want to do, you cannot stop them.
01:05:28.000 So people have realized that, you know, you really do need preparedness.
01:05:31.000 People can get out of control, can do violence, and you cannot put it down.
01:05:35.000 There's not enough police or even military folks to do that.
01:05:39.000 One of the funniest things ever was when the pandemic started and a bunch of liberals were lining up outside of gun stores to buy guns for the first time and the best thing to emerge from it was the gun store, I think it was in California, where they were like, the guy makes a video saying, stop complaining to me about why you can't buy a gun.
01:05:56.000 You voted for this.
01:05:57.000 You all voted for it.
01:05:58.000 People come to the gun store thinking they can buy a gun and then walk out of the store with it and they can't.
01:06:03.000 They gotta come back three days later and they're freaking out like, what, why?
01:06:06.000 Like, there's a pandemic, there's no food, I need to protect myself.
01:06:09.000 Well, too bad you voted for it.
01:06:11.000 That's why I like states like West Virginia.
01:06:13.000 Constitutional carry.
01:06:15.000 You walk in, you gotta fill out your federal background check, but uh, you know, the first time you do it, I think, everyone I've seen, the first time they've tried, they've been held up a little bit for a day or a couple days.
01:06:25.000 But then after that, it's like, you walk in, you can get it, you can carry it right out, conceal it, whatever, and take care of yourself.
01:06:30.000 And you can defend yourself.
01:06:32.000 So, I feel like New York City is gonna be... Man, I don't even know.
01:06:36.000 I don't think any movie or any fiction has done apocalypse justice as to what I think would actually happen in a city like New York.
01:06:46.000 In Central Brooklyn.
01:06:47.000 Where, in the first day, when a collapse happens, nobody has any idea what's going on.
01:06:51.000 They have food in their fridge, it starts running out, they go and look around, people are confused.
01:06:55.000 By the second day, all the food's probably gone, taken.
01:06:57.000 Within a few days, anything that was perishable has perished, there's some canned goods left, and now people are really hungry and really thirsty, and looking around, wondering what's going on.
01:07:07.000 So what?
01:07:08.000 By then, the smart people have all left, and the people who aren't smart and have been confused this whole time, what, eat each other?
01:07:14.000 Well, there is a much, much bigger and better awareness of preparedness in the US over the past years.
01:07:20.000 I mean, that's absolutely clear.
01:07:22.000 We cannot keep up with the demand.
01:07:23.000 We get people every day emailing us asking for information, wanting to join, and we just fall further and further behind.
01:07:30.000 We can't meet the demand.
01:07:31.000 Fortude Ranch has started franchising now.
01:07:33.000 We can't build enough to keep up, so we're franchising now.
01:07:37.000 That's kind of crazy!
01:07:38.000 So if you've got a survival community, or if you've got an RV park, you've got a ranch, and you think, hey, I could have a nice survival facility here, you can now build one, and we will help you do it through our franchise approach, because we can't keep up.
01:07:50.000 We also can't keep up with hiring.
01:07:52.000 So, we're looking for more folks.
01:07:54.000 If anyone's interested in working on our staff, or the staff of a franchisee, you know, if you want to contact fortituderanch.com on our website.
01:08:02.000 We're looking for more people, but we can't keep up with demand.
01:08:05.000 There's one other point I wanted to make is the other reason why preparedness has had a bad image is that stupid show Doomsday Preppers, which made preppers look like idiots.
01:08:14.000 Well, the reason they did that is the first rule of prepping is don't tell anyone you're a prepper.
01:08:19.000 You keep it a secret.
01:08:21.000 You don't want people to know, hey, I got a lot of guns and food and ammo at my house if there's a pandemic or the grid's down.
01:08:27.000 They're going to come to your house.
01:08:28.000 Or chickens.
01:08:29.000 Yeah, you keep that confidential.
01:08:31.000 So no one is going to go on a TV show and say, hey, I'm a prepper.
01:08:35.000 Here's all my preparations.
01:08:36.000 Here's what I've got.
01:08:37.000 They only had idiots on that show.
01:08:40.000 That show really hurt preparedness.
01:08:43.000 Smart people are preppers.
01:08:45.000 It's insurance.
01:08:46.000 It's a life insurance policy, not to pay you if you die, but to keep you alive.
01:08:50.000 So our members are very smart people.
01:08:52.000 They're largely professionals.
01:08:53.000 Yeah, we got a lot of former military.
01:08:55.000 We have some intelligence officials, but largely it's, you know, business people and people who are smart and educated, and they don't talk about it.
01:09:03.000 They keep it confidential, but the demand is growing, growing, growing, and we can't keep up, so we're looking for more staff and more franchises.
01:09:10.000 How many government officials do you have contacting you for your services?
01:09:14.000 And Guilty Pleasure, I really like that show that you mentioned, because it was really fun to watch.
01:09:19.000 Not strategic, but it was fun to see.
01:09:23.000 Well, government officials don't need us.
01:09:24.000 Again, they've got that.
01:09:25.000 I mean, even at the state level, you know, the state patrol provides protection for the government in the normal course of duty, and they'll do a lot more when there's a collapse.
01:09:34.000 What about government employees?
01:09:35.000 We have government employees.
01:09:36.000 We have people from Homeland Security, from the Pentagon at our West Virginia location.
01:09:40.000 Does it seem like there's more of them, more people who work for the government than other sectors?
01:09:46.000 No, most of our members are some business professionals is probably our most common category.
01:09:50.000 We have a lot of doctors now.
01:09:51.000 That's the other thing COVID-19 changed for us is the medical community really got a hold of preparedness.
01:09:56.000 Wow.
01:09:57.000 We used to be, it used to be, you know, sometimes we would have a hard time getting doctors and we had four doctors at Fourth Ranch Colorado.
01:10:02.000 I don't need four doctors there, but a lot of them have joined since the pandemic.
01:10:07.000 When you guys are franchising, how does that work?
01:10:09.000 How do you get involved with someone that has space that wants to become a franchisee?
01:10:13.000 I think on our website there's information on it, but basically we're going to provide you the training, the operations manual, help you design your facility, and make it possible for you to be part of the 14 Ranch system.
01:10:24.000 And you will be part of our system, because our system is again, we're a survival community, but we're also a recreational facility.
01:10:30.000 So you can be a member in West Virginia, but you can go to our lake property in Wisconsin, you come to a high mountain desert in Nevada, come to Texas, and you know go to San Antonio, and the attractions down there.
01:10:42.000 It's a vacation place too.
01:10:43.000 So you have a home fort where your stuff is and where you try to get in a collapse.
01:10:47.000 But again, if you're, if you're a West Virginia member, but you know, you're doing the Tim show out in California and the shit hits the fan and you can't get back to West Virginia, you can go to Nevada and we'll take care of you there.
01:10:58.000 And a franchise would be the same way.
01:10:59.000 You're part of the system.
01:11:01.000 So your members have the right to, you know, they'd be home forting at your place, but they could use any of the Fort Hood Ranch facilities.
01:11:08.000 But if things get bad, you got to go work in the field.
01:11:11.000 Our members understand that, you know, it's a vacation place.
01:11:11.000 Oh, absolutely.
01:11:14.000 You know, come out, shoot weapons, have fun in good times.
01:11:16.000 In bad times, we will work you very hard.
01:11:19.000 Everyone will do guard duty, and we got a lot of work to do.
01:11:22.000 We'll be cutting down trees, building our walls, improving our defenses, slaughtering animals.
01:11:28.000 We'll be poaching massively.
01:11:29.000 I mean, if you're a deer near us, When the shit hits the fan, we will be shooting you and making jerky out of you, so it's a lot of work.
01:11:36.000 And then, what about expanding the territory and seizing the land from the surrounding villages?
01:11:40.000 Oh, we don't do that.
01:11:41.000 We're strictly a defensive militia.
01:11:44.000 We're not, I mean, Steve Rene, our CO, has been on your show several times, and I know he's pointed out, we are not an offensive militia.
01:11:49.000 We're not a militia group.
01:11:50.000 There are good militia groups, don't get me wrong, but we are not one.
01:11:53.000 We don't do anything offensive.
01:11:54.000 We defend our private property in a collapse.
01:11:57.000 But let's say we're now, you know, five years into a collapse.
01:12:01.000 The surrounding homes have all been abandoned.
01:12:03.000 You gotta have scout patrols go out and start looking for, seeing what's going on, and, you know, I imagine you guys would not be offensive, but what if there's abandoned land, you need it for grazing or expansion, because now you got more people are coming, or you've signed on more village members, I suppose, or let's say it's even 15, 20 years, you're gonna have more people, more kids, you're gonna need to expand.
01:12:23.000 Well, we actually haven't thought that through to be honest with you, but you know, we're hoping that the recovery would start within a year or two if it's a really bad pandemic and eventually we're hoping that some law and order will return.
01:12:35.000 But if not, you know, we'd have to deal with whatever it is.
01:12:37.000 That's why all of our ranch management, we're former military officers and enlisted folks who have good background and good judgment.
01:12:43.000 And then our membership is a really well-educated, good people.
01:12:48.000 So we've got a core of people, you know, 100 plus people at every location.
01:12:52.000 We could do whatever we need to do in a responsible manner to survive and then to recover after things improve.
01:12:59.000 Two more questions about the franchising.
01:13:00.000 One, it's for-profit, the company's for-profit?
01:13:03.000 Yes.
01:13:03.000 And then if someone opens up a franchisee location, are they doing all the hiring and taking all the profits themselves or are you guys supplying the funds for them to do hiring and then you take They do.
01:13:13.000 They're a private business.
01:13:15.000 The only difference is, you know, unlike a typical franchise where, you know, your customers are kind of your customers, if you join Fortied Ranch, you're part of the whole system.
01:13:22.000 That's kind of a key advantage we offer is, again, you may not be able to get back to your own fort.
01:13:27.000 You may want a vacation in another location.
01:13:30.000 Members are all in one system, but it is your property, your 14th Ranch location, your business, you hire, you fire, you supervise.
01:13:37.000 And then do you pay like a franchise licensing fee or something?
01:13:40.000 Yes, there's a franchise fee to join and then a percent of royalties like any other franchise.
01:13:45.000 Cool.
01:13:46.000 But then, when the apocalypse happens, you have a network.
01:13:49.000 And so, I'd imagine if, you know, one location is starting to suffer, the other locations can provide assistance.
01:13:49.000 Correct.
01:13:55.000 We'd be up on ham radio, so we've got our frequencies and times of day that, you know, at this time and this night, we're on this frequency, so we can connect.
01:14:02.000 So, for example, back to the doctors we've got.
01:14:04.000 I mean, we've got, like, you know, cancer experts at some place.
01:14:07.000 We've got OBGYN, you know, Birthing doctors at another, but at night, mainly use HF radio at night with better bouncing off the signal.
01:14:16.000 So at night, you know, the doctors can confer.
01:14:18.000 So we can do that kind of system.
01:14:20.000 In terms of physical assistance during a collapse, no, probably not.
01:14:23.000 A 4T drench is pretty much going to be on their own.
01:14:26.000 You got to hunker down and there's probably going to be no outside contact.
01:14:30.000 I want to jump to this story.
01:14:31.000 Did you have another question you wanted to ask?
01:14:33.000 No, no, no.
01:14:33.000 That was it.
01:14:34.000 Let's jump to the story from Insider and get into the meat and potatoes here of this PayPal story.
01:14:39.000 Insider reports PayPal falls after weekend blowback over misinformation policy that would fine users $2,500.
01:14:47.000 The stock fell 6% on Monday, following the company's botched acceptable use policy update.
01:14:54.000 The company faced backlash after its updated policy included a fine of $2,500 for a variety of things, but it included hate speech against marginalized groups and spreading misinformation, and it said, at PayPal's sole discretion to determine.
01:15:07.000 Meaning, they could just be like, you said the sky was blue?
01:15:11.000 I disagree.
01:15:12.000 Yoink!
01:15:12.000 Give me your money.
01:15:13.000 So this resulted in PayPal coming out and being like, no, no, no, it was an error, it was an error, it was a mistake.
01:15:18.000 So the first thing I want to say, because this affects us, several months ago we took PayPal off TimCast.com and we knew something like this was coming.
01:15:26.000 We've seen too much ESG in banking institutions, too much censorship.
01:15:31.000 We knew it was a huge vulnerability.
01:15:33.000 So we signed up with Parallel Economy.
01:15:37.000 When you go to TimCast.com and become a member, The default option is Parallel Economy.
01:15:42.000 Secondary option is Stripe.
01:15:43.000 Stripe's okay.
01:15:44.000 They're not perfect.
01:15:45.000 Parallel Economy is very, very good.
01:15:47.000 They're not perfect.
01:15:47.000 But Dan Bongino co-founded this to be more censorship resistant.
01:15:51.000 So, many people chose to remain as members using PayPal.
01:15:55.000 I recommend you guys switch over if you can.
01:15:57.000 I'm not sure there's a seamless way to do it.
01:16:01.000 When you signed up, many people signed up as guests with a guest PayPal account.
01:16:05.000 That means you just terminate your account at timcast.com and then re-sign up.
01:16:09.000 But of course, that means you'll get charged 10 bucks again.
01:16:12.000 So if you're in like the middle of the month, it's kind of, it kind of sucks.
01:16:16.000 I guess I would say for those in a situation, wait until your month is over
01:16:21.000 and then before you're charged next, cancel and then switch over or something like that.
01:16:25.000 That would be good.
01:16:27.000 Or if you really don't mind a couple of bucks, it does support us because we do use it to, you know,
01:16:31.000 obviously conduct operations here at Timcast.
01:16:34.000 But this was bad.
01:16:35.000 And I gotta say right now, why?
01:16:37.000 One, Trial Balloon.
01:16:38.000 I certainly think so.
01:16:40.000 They probably would have ran with this if there wasn't a major backlash to it.
01:16:44.000 And I think the other thing is just, well, I shouldn't say there's two things.
01:16:48.000 Regardless of the first instance, the Trial Balloon, this will eventually become normal mainstream.
01:16:54.000 They are going to implement this.
01:16:57.000 They just did it with a heavy hand, so it's coming.
01:16:59.000 Yeah, I mean, absolutely.
01:17:00.000 And PayPal has been doing this for a very long time.
01:17:03.000 They have been weaponized for the benefit of the political state for a very long time, including originally, from what I remember, going after Julian Assange, freezing his ability to be able to collect money online.
01:17:14.000 They went after crypto individuals.
01:17:16.000 They went after a free speech union.
01:17:18.000 They partnered with the SPLC, a discredited horrible organization that of course was sued successfully many times for defamation and slander of individuals that they attacked politically.
01:17:29.000 So PayPal does not have the best interest.
01:17:32.000 I'm switching mine.
01:17:32.000 I already switched mine to an alternative.
01:17:35.000 I'm switching to more alternatives because the free market It is where it's at and PayPal has had a dominance in the space.
01:17:42.000 Some people have said that they are a monopoly.
01:17:44.000 I kind of agree with them because a lot of people have been politically shut off from PayPal and are unable to do a lot of banking online because of that larger target put on their backs artificially by PayPal.
01:17:58.000 If anyone wants to know, Vanguard, BlackRock, and State Street own about 18% of PayPal.
01:18:03.000 Makes sense.
01:18:03.000 As they do with so many corporations that are public.
01:18:06.000 What about internationally?
01:18:08.000 Do they have a lot of international interests?
01:18:10.000 That's what I wonder.
01:18:10.000 PayPal?
01:18:12.000 No, Vanguard, BlackRock, and State Street.
01:18:15.000 Cause I was talking to a real estate agent.
01:18:17.000 We were, you know, obviously we're expanding.
01:18:19.000 We want to do our brick and mortar shop.
01:18:21.000 And the guy mentioned something about financing for big properties with like BlackRock.
01:18:25.000 I started laughing and I was like, I don't want to go anywhere near those companies.
01:18:28.000 You know, these, these, these things they, they, they do.
01:18:30.000 I don't, maybe it wasn't BlackRock.
01:18:31.000 Maybe it was a different, maybe it was Blackstone.
01:18:32.000 Stone's doing the housing developments.
01:18:34.000 Right.
01:18:34.000 Right.
01:18:34.000 But then they're like, uh, but there were, there were similar companies, right?
01:18:37.000 They're related in some way.
01:18:38.000 Yeah.
01:18:38.000 The one was a spinoff of the other.
01:18:39.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:18:41.000 What I see with this is, you know, we've been talking about nuclear war and everything.
01:18:44.000 What I see here is, I don't know if civil war is the right word, but some kind of, look, it's policies like this, that if they were to effectively implement, would result in some kind of, I don't know, insurgency.
01:19:00.000 If we keep censoring people, if we keep shutting down businesses, if the DOJ is continually going after only one political faction, eventually you get some kind of disruption and fighting and destabilization in the United States.
01:19:13.000 So I guess my question to you is, do you think that there is a potential with the expansion of these kind of policies into civil war or revolutionary kind of insurgency and fighting within the country?
01:19:25.000 Again, we talked about Ray Dalio earlier, you know, earlier this year, mentioning that he thinks there's a 30% chance of civil war after the next presidential election.
01:19:33.000 If it's close, especially, the losing side may say, you know, I don't buy it.
01:19:39.000 And especially if they continue to be so split in policies and philosophies.
01:19:44.000 I mean, the U.S.
01:19:45.000 is very much a split country.
01:19:49.000 I'm in Texas now, and the Texas Leave the United States Succeed movement is very, very big.
01:19:57.000 It has a lot of support.
01:19:59.000 Some polls show most Texans support getting out of the country.
01:20:02.000 Wow.
01:20:03.000 So you could see the country falling apart.
01:20:06.000 It could happen.
01:20:06.000 Now, would it be a shooting war?
01:20:08.000 I have a hard time.
01:20:09.000 Civil unrest I can see.
01:20:10.000 I don't see, you know, a civil war like our civil war.
01:20:14.000 I just don't think the military would get involved in that.
01:20:17.000 I don't think they would fight and something like that.
01:20:19.000 So I don't see that kind of a civil war, but I can certainly see states like Texas and, you know, I personally believe that the Constitution In my reading of it is that you don't have to, you know, you're not forced to stay in forever.
01:20:33.000 And that's just been a Supreme Court has tried to make some decisions since then.
01:20:37.000 But the Supreme Court made a made a decision in mid 30s that basically said, you know what?
01:20:41.000 Screw the Constitution.
01:20:43.000 Forget about the 10th Amendment.
01:20:45.000 Congress, you can pass whatever you want and spend whatever you want.
01:20:48.000 The Supreme Court basically nullified the Constitution, at least the 10th Amendment in the mid-30s, and then they proceeded to do other things.
01:20:55.000 So there's nothing in the Constitution that says the state has to stay in the Union forever.
01:21:00.000 And Texas knows it.
01:21:01.000 There's movements elsewhere.
01:21:03.000 So they could really take off after a bad contested election.
01:21:08.000 And if they go, there's no forcing them back.
01:21:10.000 And the really odd thing is I could foresee a country like Texas Wow.
01:21:14.000 succeeding and then telling the United States, you know what, we're out of your stupid domestic
01:21:18.000 socialism policies, but we'll stay alive with you.
01:21:21.000 We'll continue to send Texans into the US military and we'll be alive with you.
01:21:25.000 And if the Democrats said no to that, the next best thing they could do is Texas could go, you know what?
01:21:30.000 Let's join the British Commonwealth.
01:21:32.000 Seriously. I doubt they would do that.
01:21:36.000 Support the British military and And we'll go back into the Commonwealth.
01:21:38.000 The Commonwealth may be less of a bad fit than being with the socialist, democratic controlled United States.
01:21:45.000 The UK is not doing too well on that front.
01:21:47.000 They're about 10 times worse than the democratic socialist problems in the United States.
01:21:51.000 Correct.
01:21:51.000 But in the Commonwealth, they don't have to take their domestic policies.
01:21:54.000 I'm just in their military.
01:21:55.000 I'm talking about for military and foreign policy, not for domestic policies.
01:21:59.000 Wouldn't that be ironic, though, to have some U.S.
01:22:03.000 states succeed and go back and join the Commonwealth?
01:22:06.000 I don't, that one seems like a long shot, but I do see a possibility of what people refer to as national divorce or peaceful divorce.
01:22:13.000 But here's the thing about the PayPal stuff.
01:22:15.000 It's a big example of how we're getting into this dangerous authoritarian period.
01:22:19.000 The fact that a financial institution would say, we can take money from your business, from your account, regardless, if you say things we don't like.
01:22:26.000 That's nightmarish.
01:22:27.000 At the same time, Stripe emerged, and now they're competing heavily with PayPal.
01:22:31.000 Locals, which is now Rumble, uses Stripe.
01:22:35.000 Parallel economy emerges.
01:22:37.000 It is bad what PayPal is doing.
01:22:39.000 They are powerful.
01:22:39.000 They are dominant.
01:22:41.000 But maybe these these alternatives are inevitable.
01:22:46.000 You know, when Facebook was engaging in all this censorship at the height of 2020 or 2018 and 2019 into 2020, a lot of people were saying, don't worry, an alternative will emerge eventually.
01:22:57.000 And many have.
01:22:58.000 But I also kind of think just Facebook is kind of just dwindling as it is with younger people and TikTok is getting picked up, which is even worse.
01:23:06.000 So I don't think there's always a solution in that the market will provide.
01:23:10.000 But we are seeing, at least when it comes to PayPal, the market here hit them by 6%.
01:23:14.000 Users are jumping ship.
01:23:16.000 Maybe that's the white pill moment.
01:23:17.000 That's the optimistic thing that as much as things are getting bad, this PayPal's backlash, I'll say this looks like a de-escalation in terms of all this stuff.
01:23:25.000 Well, they reversed the policy, which speaks volumes.
01:23:29.000 I mean, for them to come out with a bold policy saying that they're going to steal Grandma's purse in the middle of the night as she's walking down the street is a pretty egregious move for the crime of wrong-thinking.
01:23:40.000 It's absolutely wild that they could try to justify stealing and theft like a government would from its citizens.
01:23:47.000 As a form of punishing people for thinking incorrectly.
01:23:50.000 And I think, yes, it's optimistic that they reversed it, but it's also pretty crazy that they thought that they could get away with this.
01:23:58.000 That's another part of this that we need to understand here.
01:24:01.000 They thought that this was viable.
01:24:02.000 They thought that this was okay, which is absolutely insane.
01:24:06.000 And this shows you how far they go when it comes to mind control and when it comes to policing the thoughts of American citizens to the point where they're like, we're just going to take it all.
01:24:16.000 Oh yeah, get it in my head for a minute.
01:24:17.000 I'm an Austrian banker.
01:24:18.000 I run the Bank for International Settlements in Switzerland.
01:24:21.000 I'm letting the U.S.
01:24:22.000 survive with my money.
01:24:23.000 If I want to cut them off from my money supply, I can.
01:24:25.000 The most annoying thing in the world right now is American Republicanism, because they think that they're so great.
01:24:31.000 They think they're the best.
01:24:32.000 They're screwing up.
01:24:33.000 They're screwing up the country.
01:24:33.000 They're obese.
01:24:34.000 I would love nothing more than to see the United States split apart in a civil war, because that's the biggest threat to my global takeover.
01:24:41.000 I want to spread my seed.
01:24:43.000 I want everyone using my money.
01:24:45.000 I want the Bank for International Settlements to be running the world.
01:24:47.000 And the Americans are annoying, man.
01:24:50.000 So that's that perspective of this global banking cartel.
01:24:55.000 That's what Stripe is doing.
01:24:56.000 Ethereum is the alternate.
01:24:58.000 It's not about dollars and cents.
01:25:00.000 Great that Parallel Economy is using American dollars, fiat currency, Federal Reserve notes for now.
01:25:06.000 Great that Stripe's doing it.
01:25:07.000 Stripe's still private.
01:25:07.000 I think they're looking at going public, which means BlackRock's going to own them pretty soon.
01:25:11.000 I don't know when that's happening, or they've been talking about it since 2021.
01:25:14.000 People are going to take that clip of you saying you want to spread your seed everywhere.
01:25:17.000 Yes, I want to spread, I want to inseminate the world with my fiat crap.
01:25:22.000 But it looks like Ethereum, which is also kind of on a path to fiat, unfortunately, with their transition to proof of stake now instead of proof of work.
01:25:30.000 It doesn't matter who's making the currency, it matters who has it.
01:25:32.000 They're going to be making more.
01:25:34.000 I don't think it's fiat currency.
01:25:35.000 I mean, I'm an Ethereum fan, and there are other great blockchains and cryptocurrency.
01:25:40.000 Bitcoin was, you know, applauded for being the first, but it's not a very good one.
01:25:44.000 And it wasn't expected to be, it was just to prove the concept.
01:25:46.000 But there are a lot of great cryptocurrencies, which could, I mean, Zelle is an alternative to PayPal, just doing it with your Zelle and your bank.
01:25:54.000 But the long-term evolution could well be cryptocurrency that is controlled by no one other than people using it.
01:26:01.000 So the Ethereum, their new process to confirm a block of data and to lock it in.
01:26:07.000 You know, you're just, it's people like me, I'm one of them now.
01:26:10.000 I have some of my Ethereum, I've pledged to go to their system.
01:26:14.000 So it's not like I'm pledging US dollars or fiat currency, I'm pledging Ether.
01:26:20.000 I heard some rumors that some people on the Ethereum network were working with the World Economic Forum and their vision of a centralized currency.
01:26:27.000 They are?
01:26:28.000 Well, this is what I read, is that Ethereum is going to be the one world government coin.
01:26:31.000 Well, it's also important to note here- Really?
01:26:33.000 So buy Ethereum, is that what you're saying?
01:26:35.000 No!
01:26:35.000 Stop financing the monsters and machines here!
01:26:35.000 No!
01:26:37.000 The reason I say it's fiat is because- You're triggering me here!
01:26:39.000 Bitcoin has 19 million bitcoins, 21 million that'll ever be printed.
01:26:43.000 They can be broken down into what are called satoshis, which is the lowest decimal amount.
01:26:46.000 So we have a finite amount of them.
01:26:47.000 They're not fiat in that sense.
01:26:50.000 There's a finite amount.
01:26:51.000 But Ethereum can be printed indefinitely as it's currently standing, which means that, you know, if enough- Inflation happens fast enough, you're just going to see an escalation and a fiat explosion of Ethereum 2.
01:27:02.000 They could always evolve it, create a fork, create Ethereum 3 that's actually deflationary by nature, which I think is the future of crypto.
01:27:09.000 It's a crypto that, as long as it sits there, it's constantly degrading in value.
01:27:13.000 You have one today, you're losing 0.001% of that every day, so you're encouraged to spend it.
01:27:17.000 You want circulation of currency.
01:27:20.000 You want currency circulating through any given system.
01:27:22.000 That's what a currency is.
01:27:23.000 It's a current.
01:27:24.000 And just to add to your point, the BlackRock CEO came out not so long ago, and he said this Ukrainian war could be used to, quote, accelerate the use of central bank digital currencies.
01:27:24.000 It's a current.
01:27:34.000 So these Fed coins, these coins orchestrated by the Federal Reserves and central banks, are already being implemented in places like Canada and Australia.
01:27:44.000 Federal Reserve is talking about implementing one here in the United States.
01:27:44.000 The U.S.
01:27:48.000 So a lot of people foresee A deliberate brought-on economic calamity that's engineered here in the United States in order to bring on these centralized digital currencies which of course will track trace and database and also create a social credit score like system that will track how much carbon you produce that will of course also punish you for your wrong political thoughts.
01:28:09.000 This is what PayPal is probably working on on the back end.
01:28:12.000 This is what the Federal Reserve is already working on and implementing in many other countries which should scare the utter crap out of everyone paying attention right now.
01:28:20.000 I think it's inevitable that the writing's been on the wall since maybe the 1980s.
01:28:24.000 Really, since the Federal Reserve formed and realized, yo, we're just going to inflate this thing until we can't anymore.
01:28:29.000 They have to have some future vision of what it's going to become, and it doesn't surprise me that it's a global, trackable currency that's digital and can be shut off with the flip of a switch.
01:28:38.000 Where did you see that they said Ethereum would be like that global currency?
01:28:41.000 Let's see if I can find an article about it.
01:28:43.000 It was some article I was reading.
01:28:43.000 Who said that?
01:28:45.000 I don't disagree.
01:28:47.000 I was even thinking that it would be Bitcoin.
01:28:49.000 The issue is Bitcoin.
01:28:52.000 You mentioned it was the first in, best dressed.
01:28:55.000 So it's not necessarily the best one, but it came in looking good and it worked.
01:28:58.000 But the best thing about it is that it's truly decentralized and many of these other cryptos are centralized in some capacity.
01:29:05.000 There was some controversy with a particular coin I'm not going to mention because it's proprietary, but people were shocked to discover that they increased the volume when they said they couldn't, and they did!
01:29:13.000 Because when you have centralized digital currency, they can control it.
01:29:16.000 Did you find it?
01:29:18.000 It didn't pop up.
01:29:19.000 I'll see if I can pull it up tonight, though.
01:29:20.000 Ethereum makes sense.
01:29:21.000 I mean, doesn't doesn't Ethereum?
01:29:23.000 No, I don't want to say things I don't know for sure.
01:29:25.000 But Ethereum makes sense because it's it's seemingly the more institutional of the cryptocurrencies, getting a lot of support.
01:29:31.000 Bitcoin, of course, does.
01:29:33.000 But too many anarchists, libertarians and radicals support Bitcoin for me to think that they're gonna actually try and use that.
01:29:39.000 They want control.
01:29:40.000 They also want infinite supply.
01:29:42.000 Ethereum provides the possibility for an infinite supply.
01:29:44.000 What'll happen is you'll be, like you were saying, you're staking the Ethereum, which means that you put some into a node, and then that node generates interest.
01:29:51.000 I think it's actually, this I don't know exactly if it's written into the code of the Ethereum 2 itself, that it auto-generates interest, and so it's set to expand at a certain rate.
01:30:00.000 But what'll happen is we'll each have our own nodes, people will probably start selling you little boxes you plug into your wall, and you Tap into you with your phone and your Ethereum is going to be on your wall, which is dangerous because someone can steal that.
01:30:10.000 So then we'll create these like bank nodes that are like 10 miles away in a very secure location.
01:30:15.000 There's a node that you can port into with your phone where all your Ethereum is stored, collecting you interest.
01:30:20.000 And then there'll be, maybe there'll be a master node in Bank of International Settlements in Switzerland.
01:30:24.000 Who knows where they're going to put the master node, but eventually they'll start noting up and then re-centralize the thing.
01:30:29.000 No, I don't think so.
01:30:30.000 I think it's a real, Ethereum is a real blockchain.
01:30:32.000 It is decentralized.
01:30:34.000 It'll always stay that way.
01:30:35.000 It's not decentralized.
01:30:35.000 It's proprietary.
01:30:38.000 No, it literally is.
01:30:39.000 I mean, the problem with Bitcoin is it takes 10 minutes or maybe more to process a block.
01:30:44.000 So potentially I could buy something with you, pay in Bitcoin.
01:30:46.000 If the block doesn't process, you know, you don't get paid.
01:30:49.000 You may want to wait.
01:30:50.000 And I don't want to wait 10 minutes for the block to process.
01:30:52.000 Bitcoin is just not feasible for use.
01:30:54.000 But Ethereum, And as it advances more, can do really fast processing and can be used for something like a cryptocurrency that you use every day of life that is not controlled by a bank.
01:31:05.000 It's controlled by the Ethereum blockchain.
01:31:07.000 But if a bank owns 51% of the chain, or if a cabal of people owns 51%, it's not likely, but it is a possibility.
01:31:17.000 And I think we should resolve every contingency when we're planning a future of global currency.
01:31:23.000 If it can be done, it may very well be done.
01:31:25.000 So we should watch out for people taking control of the nodes.
01:31:29.000 You can track everybody, you know, with Bitcoin.
01:31:32.000 I believe the Ethereum chain, it's all publicly available as well, right?
01:31:35.000 All the transactions?
01:31:36.000 Yeah, on Etherscan.
01:31:38.000 I went to... I bring this up often when we talk about crypto.
01:31:41.000 I went to Davos several years ago, and crypto was the theme.
01:31:45.000 I wasn't in the actual World Economic Forum.
01:31:48.000 In the city of Davos, everybody shows up and then tries to suck all the teat of the World Economic Forum outside of it.
01:31:53.000 To be like, look at me, look at me, I want to be part of your thing.
01:31:56.000 But there's pop-ups everywhere.
01:31:58.000 Bars, clubs, partying, and people do their mini-events in the periphery, and crypto was it.
01:32:03.000 Everyone was like, this is the future, this is what we're doing.
01:32:05.000 Since then, I've been telling people like, yo, the World Economic Forum types, they love crypto.
01:32:09.000 They want that.
01:32:11.000 I mean, think about what Bitcoin is.
01:32:12.000 It's arguably a global currency.
01:32:15.000 It comes out, they get all the right-wing nutjobs to start using it and cheering for it.
01:32:19.000 They all become rich overnight.
01:32:21.000 This sings the praises of it, and all of a sudden they're like, this is our way out of the machine.
01:32:25.000 And the machine is just like, ooh, we love that everyone's adopting this universal digital currency that can track every move you make.
01:32:31.000 Another reason why the World Economic Forum and the global monetary system doesn't like Bitcoin but they prefer Ethereum is because Bitcoin's energy intensive, the mining process requires that you have a GPU plugged into a wall, it's burning a lot of coal or whatever, your power, whereas the proof-of-stake stuff, it's just...
01:32:47.000 The digital code on some node somewhere is just repopulating and adding new gain.
01:32:54.000 It doesn't require any mining electricity.
01:32:56.000 It's just in this program in the net.
01:32:59.000 The problem is if the power goes out, then none of it's worth anything.
01:33:01.000 Right.
01:33:02.000 I was going to ask, if the power goes out, what are we going to do?
01:33:04.000 When I ask that question to a group of developers, it stuns silence.
01:33:08.000 You put the blockchain on, you know, the smoke signal, and that's how you transfer it.
01:33:13.000 I promise that's how much I had.
01:33:15.000 You send the private key, and then you send the public key, and then bada bing, bada boom.
01:33:20.000 When everyone can see your private key.
01:33:22.000 There it is!
01:33:24.000 I think cash, you gotta maintain cash.
01:33:26.000 Well, we have dealt with that problem at Fortitude Ranch because we do have a cryptocurrency.
01:33:30.000 It's called the Fortitude.
01:33:31.000 This is a fake one, not the real one.
01:33:33.000 It's an ERC-20 token, runs on the Ethereum blockchain.
01:33:36.000 You can use our tokens to buy membership.
01:33:40.000 But what happens if, you know, the grid goes down?
01:33:42.000 There's no Ethereum blockchain.
01:33:44.000 So if you want, You can say, you know, I'm the one who bought these Fortitude tokens.
01:33:44.000 You can't use them.
01:33:51.000 I'll put it on my spreadsheet on my computer.
01:33:53.000 I keep offline.
01:33:54.000 And if the grid's down but you can still contact me, I know that, you know, you own 15 Fortitudes and you are entitled to join Fortitude Ranch.
01:34:04.000 Because when the shit hits the fan for Fortitude Ranch, And everyone wants to join.
01:34:09.000 We've got a page ready to come up on our website that says we're no longer accepting cash memberships.
01:34:14.000 You can only join with Fortitude tokens because people have bought them in the past.
01:34:19.000 Part of the allure is if you own Fortitudes, you're not a member of Fortitude Ranch, but we will give you priority to join over cash buyers.
01:34:27.000 So we've been selling them for that.
01:34:28.000 Is there any kind of like thing on there where I can scan it and it'll bring up my Fortitude?
01:34:33.000 This is completely a trinket, you know, for show.
01:34:33.000 Not on this.
01:34:36.000 But yeah, it's a normal ERC-20 token.
01:34:38.000 So you can see it on the blockchain.
01:34:40.000 If you search for Fortitudes, FRT is our symbol.
01:34:44.000 We're trading... FRT.
01:34:44.000 We're hard to find.
01:34:45.000 Yeah.
01:34:46.000 That's unfortunate.
01:34:47.000 Yeah, sorry.
01:34:49.000 I'm going to go to coinmarketcap.com and look up the FRT.
01:34:53.000 But we're not widely traded at all.
01:34:56.000 It was a small issue.
01:34:57.000 Fertilizer.
01:34:57.000 The company owns most of the tokens.
01:34:59.000 We have people who bought them, one to join, and then some who bought them as investments.
01:35:03.000 You couldn't get FRC?
01:35:05.000 Fortitude Ranch Currency?
01:35:06.000 No, Fortitude is the name we use.
01:35:08.000 All right, everybody.
01:35:09.000 I'll give this one here to you.
01:35:11.000 In Fort's blockchain and individual freedom we trust.
01:35:15.000 Slide it over.
01:35:15.000 Oh, cool.
01:35:17.000 That's very cool.
01:35:18.000 Alright everybody, if you haven't already, smash that like button!
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01:35:33.000 We got Hunter.
01:35:34.000 He says, be corporations part of the stakeholder economy.
01:35:37.000 Help make sure that your money is going to the local economy and fight shareholder primacy.
01:35:42.000 It also ties the mission statement to the corporation, even with other owners' investment.
01:35:48.000 Yeah, you could like, that's what I was talking about, like nodes, like 10 miles away where like 10,000 people are hosting their money, then you could withdraw taxes from the node to finance surrounding projects and stuff, localized taxing and things like that.
01:36:00.000 Interesting.
01:36:03.000 Helicon Drummer says, switched Timcast account from PayPal today.
01:36:07.000 My understanding is their fines could also be used against anyone purchasing firearms or related items.
01:36:14.000 I don't know.
01:36:14.000 Did you see?
01:36:15.000 I think I saw something like that.
01:36:15.000 Did you see that?
01:36:16.000 Yeah, you can't use PayPal to buy anything related to firearms already.
01:36:20.000 So they already have an anti-firearm policy.
01:36:23.000 Yeah, and PayPal.
01:36:24.000 Yeah.
01:36:24.000 But this is why, it was like a year ago, we were like, we need to find a way to get rid of PayPal.
01:36:29.000 PayPal doesn't want you defending yourself as they steal money from you.
01:36:33.000 Sorry, I just, maybe that's why they ban firearm purchases.
01:36:36.000 Sorry, I had to say that.
01:36:39.000 Kentara Bella says wild switching to parallel rumble use your voice dollars.
01:36:43.000 That's right So we put everything up on rumble, and I'm really you know look.
01:36:48.000 It's really cool.
01:36:49.000 We've got I think Timcast IRL has like 300,000 subscribers on rumble and My Timcast channel has like 300,000 I think as well my Tim pool channel doesn't so we just we're moving that segment over the Timcast one more than most of the subscribers are but it's cool to see that There's actually some rivaling happening to YouTube.
01:37:08.000 The fact that I've got hundreds of thousands of subs on this platform makes it a viable platform to keep using.
01:37:12.000 If YouTube wants to play dirty games, the market shall provide.
01:37:15.000 And so it seems.
01:37:16.000 Not a guarantee it's not the best, but, you know.
01:37:19.000 But that being said, that's why we use Parallel Economy.
01:37:22.000 Shout out Dan Bongino, who I think is doing more than most when it comes to actually building a parallel economy and pushing back on the censorship, because Rumble and Parallel Economy are huge I think, here's what we need.
01:37:35.000 We got a brick and mortar location coming soon for something.
01:37:38.000 It's gonna be a hangout, venue, club, games.
01:37:41.000 I'm hoping that Parallel Economy can actually set up pay terminals so that we can use them for our general payment processing as well, because we need stores to start doing that stuff.
01:37:48.000 Then you can't get silence censored or shut down for what your business is.
01:37:53.000 And if you use the Public Square app, which will show you a list of businesses that support American values, all of those businesses should also be using Parallel Economy.
01:38:03.000 Oh, I just got this in.
01:38:04.000 PayPal, this is from Bloomberg, PayPal has no intention to fine customers over misinformation.
01:38:10.000 Yeah, they walked back to the policy.
01:38:11.000 Oh yeah, now they're just saying they never intended it to begin with.
01:38:14.000 It's official, yes.
01:38:14.000 It was an error.
01:38:16.000 Well, so I gotta say this then.
01:38:17.000 The loss of money I've incurred from people canceling their accounts, is PayPal gonna pay damages for that?
01:38:24.000 They admitted it was an error.
01:38:26.000 This wasn't a policy change they can claim they're allowed to make.
01:38:28.000 This was them publishing false information, which caused pain and suffering, damages to all of these businesses.
01:38:35.000 Yeah, got them.
01:38:36.000 So, maybe, I don't know, got to talk to a lawyer.
01:38:39.000 I mean, what did they lose?
01:38:40.000 5%, 6% of their value in one day?
01:38:43.000 We lost a lot of members.
01:38:45.000 So, here's what happens.
01:38:46.000 There are people who have signed up to simcast.com using PayPal.
01:38:49.000 These are people who are probably not super fans of the show, but they're fans enough to be like, yeah, you know, I'll sign up, I'll support the guy.
01:38:54.000 Yeah, here you go.
01:38:56.000 But they don't watch every episode.
01:38:57.000 They don't really pay attention that much.
01:38:58.000 When they cancel their account, they don't come back to the website and re-sign up.
01:39:02.000 Those are customers that we have to try and email and ask, be like, hey, did you still want to be a member?
01:39:06.000 So when we lose that money, because PayPal published a false statement, I think they're responsible and they should have to pay the damages to every single business because of that error.
01:39:16.000 You don't get to like, you know, if you're a repairman and you're coming to fix my window and then you break it, you gotta pay for it.
01:39:22.000 I'm not paying for that.
01:39:23.000 PayPal busted up the system and now it's costing customers.
01:39:26.000 That's their fault.
01:39:27.000 It's like a venue.
01:39:28.000 If you're putting on a show and one day the venue's like, and we're not letting anyone in that isn't 6'7 or has green hair or didn't get their vaccine, then you as like a performer that has tickets bought and then you lose all this money on your tickets, all these refunds, you can probably go after the venue for that.
01:39:42.000 That's a way better analogy.
01:39:44.000 You book a show at a venue, people are buying tickets, and the venue comes out and announces they're taking everyone's tickets away at their own discretion, so people rip their tickets up and leave and demand refunds.
01:39:54.000 And now I'm left with no money because the venue comes out and says, no, no, no, no, that wasn't a real statement, that was fake.
01:39:59.000 And I'm like, okay, well, now that my show's ruined and my business has been destroyed because of what you just did, you gotta pay.
01:40:04.000 Yeah, at least, what, class action?
01:40:06.000 Is that the way you would go?
01:40:07.000 All the people harmed by?
01:40:08.000 Class action, I think, is always a bad idea.
01:40:10.000 The only person who wins a class action is the lawyer.
01:40:12.000 Yep.
01:40:14.000 All right, President Irina Vladimirovna says, one of the things related to the World Economic Forum You Will Own Nothing shtick that I don't see many people talking about is the insane amount of subscription-based services like Spotify.
01:40:27.000 I recently bought a custom Zune so all of my music is kept offline and safe.
01:40:32.000 Good idea, because people are buying their way into communism.
01:40:36.000 Everything is becoming subscription.
01:40:38.000 I go on Amazon, and I'm like, I need coconut water, and it's like, default, subscribe.
01:40:46.000 The default is not to buy a case, it's to subscribe to coconut water?
01:40:50.000 I'm not subscribing to that.
01:40:51.000 When we run out, I'll buy more.
01:40:53.000 I guess we should subscribe, I don't know.
01:40:54.000 We have a subscription to toilet paper.
01:40:56.000 We do.
01:40:57.000 It's bamboo toilet paper, though.
01:40:58.000 And so once a month we get a thing, like we have 30 employees, we have this 12,000 square foot facility, So we gotta, you know, we gotta keep the bathroom stocked up.
01:41:06.000 So we bought a subscription.
01:41:07.000 Everything's gonna be that.
01:41:08.000 There's automated subscription processing, and then in 20 years, when Amazon owns every single business, you will have a subscription to Amazon for your services, and you won't realize it, but you will have bought your way into Congress.
01:41:19.000 The tactic is like, we'll give you 10% off if you subscribe for a monthly purchase.
01:41:23.000 And then when you forget that you're subscribed that one extra month, it pays off the 10% gain that you had.
01:41:28.000 And they're just hoping people forget.
01:41:30.000 And that's the danger for businesses is it's good to have an accountant going through all the order lists every time, every month, so that you're not accidentally ordering things you don't need.
01:41:39.000 All right.
01:41:40.000 Keba Rojo says, Tim & Co, you inspired us to go all in on fighting the culture war through music.
01:41:46.000 Just released The Reckoning by Single Grain of Sand.
01:41:48.000 Definitely see the value.
01:41:50.000 Is speaking truth via music.
01:41:52.000 Only on Rumble, half of the GP goes to 1.6, uh, 1.6 prisoners.
01:41:58.000 Cool.
01:41:59.000 Glad to hear it.
01:42:00.000 Troy Dunham had a huge debate this weekend with family over Biden's invention of the term Next Nelrescent.
01:42:06.000 I couldn't find video evidence anywhere.
01:42:07.000 Please confirm and provide any sources or context.
01:42:10.000 They were also dubious of Batacefcare, but I did find that one.
01:42:14.000 There was a video I saw, it may have been Nuancebro, I'm not sure, where, uh, I can't remember who it was.
01:42:19.000 They went over Joe Biden's new language and they showed all the clips.
01:42:23.000 Next Nelrescent, Batacefcare.
01:42:25.000 But I mean, just show him truning on a shabbat of pressure.
01:42:27.000 Come on.
01:42:28.000 Show them.
01:42:29.000 I'll start with two words.
01:42:31.000 Made in America.
01:42:32.000 And then be like, come on, it's three words.
01:42:35.000 Lauren Boebert tweeted out, I have two words.
01:42:37.000 Let's go, Brandon.
01:42:38.000 And everyone's like, she's such an idiot.
01:42:40.000 She said two words and she said three.
01:42:42.000 But they didn't know that Biden did that, I guess.
01:42:42.000 What an idiot.
01:42:44.000 And that's the point.
01:42:45.000 Yeah, she was trolling.
01:42:46.000 No, but what she did, whether on purpose or not, perfectly exposed the cult.
01:42:51.000 These people don't even listen to the president they voted for speaking.
01:42:55.000 We, as people, I don't know who you voted for, but we're people who are no fans of Joe Biden.
01:43:00.000 I'm assuming you, Serge, too.
01:43:02.000 But we watch his speeches.
01:43:04.000 And so when he says it, we all watch it happen.
01:43:07.000 When he says Trinidad and Jobba to pressure, we're all talking about it, like, did you see what just happened?
01:43:11.000 All of these people, like George Takei, David Hogg, these other guys, they don't even watch him.
01:43:15.000 And they voted for him.
01:43:16.000 And then when we come out and we're like, look how crazy he is, they go, ha ha, you're so dumb.
01:43:20.000 It's like, what?
01:43:22.000 How are you supposed to negotiate with a group of people that are like that?
01:43:24.000 When they're just like, I don't know, I don't care, I won't watch him, and you're dumb.
01:43:29.000 What do you do, like, you were in the military, I don't know if you worked with conflict resolution much, but like, if you're up against, like, the Taliban, how do you end up negotiating?
01:43:36.000 You just take one of their leaders and you give them a lucrative bribe to negotiate with the entire group?
01:43:41.000 The military doesn't really get into the negotiation.
01:43:43.000 It's supposed to be the State Department handling that, so...
01:43:46.000 Yeah, the U.S.
01:43:47.000 military doesn't de-escalate.
01:43:49.000 All right, let's read more.
01:43:50.000 We got Mitform02 says, Happy Columbus Day!
01:43:54.000 Happy Columbus Day indeed!
01:43:56.000 Today's the day we celebrate when a bunch of Europeans figured out there was another part of the planet.
01:44:01.000 Dude, uh, this...
01:44:03.000 Spike Cohen tweeted out the history of Columbus Day.
01:44:05.000 It was like in the late 1800s, there was this abusive lynching of a bunch of Irish Americans.
01:44:10.000 So then William Henry Harrison was like, you know what?
01:44:12.000 No, no, no.
01:44:12.000 We'll make a day after the Italian adventurer, Christopher Columbus.
01:44:16.000 Yay, now it's not so bad what they did to you Italians.
01:44:19.000 And then it was in like the 1930s that there was all this anti-Italian American sentiment because of the war and Mussolini's Italy.
01:44:27.000 So they were just persecuted again, and then it was FDR was like, we're officially making Columbus Day a holiday to appease you.
01:44:34.000 All right, let's read this one.
01:44:36.000 1-2 says, what information do you have Putin is losing?
01:44:40.000 My info says otherwise.
01:44:41.000 Plus, he took 20% of the country.
01:44:43.000 Why would Saudi Arabia get on the side with Russia if they were losing?
01:44:48.000 Money.
01:44:49.000 Well, for Saudi Arabia, there's less Russia than Iran.
01:44:53.000 The U.S.
01:44:54.000 has not been holding Iran back from their nuclear weapons program, and there's a lot of concern that Saudis are worried about that, but they want oil prices to go up, and Russia's helping them on that, so they're playing their economic interests, and Iran is an ally of Russia, and they're doing what they've got to do to protect their own self-interest.
01:45:14.000 All right.
01:45:15.000 Well, I'll just add to that.
01:45:17.000 You got to choose who you trust.
01:45:19.000 I mean, I think it's fair to say that Putin is losing simply because he's fighting NATO.
01:45:23.000 He's fighting all of NATO.
01:45:26.000 We're supplying weapons, intelligence.
01:45:28.000 We've got volunteer ground forces.
01:45:30.000 But now we have confirmed special operations on the ground.
01:45:33.000 Germany's providing air defense.
01:45:34.000 Biden's going to be sending air defense.
01:45:36.000 So when the news reports come out and they're like, Putin's forces are routed and retreating, I'm like, you know, he's fighting like a military alliance.
01:45:43.000 So it's reasonable to me to assume.
01:45:45.000 Granted, I do think it's all propaganda.
01:45:47.000 And I think Russia's probably doing better in certain areas than you'd ever find out because they're not going to come out and be like, yes, all of our troops are losing.
01:45:54.000 Now let's go and fight more.
01:45:56.000 They need to justify why the money needs to be sent there.
01:45:59.000 And so Putin has to be doing well enough that they need the money, but not so well, it's a lost cause.
01:46:04.000 Do you have any other kind of intelligence or assessments to why Russia is losing?
01:46:08.000 Well, their troops aren't fighting well.
01:46:09.000 They're just not motivated compared to the Ukrainians.
01:46:12.000 I mean, why did the Russians fight so well in World War II?
01:46:15.000 Germany was invading their territory and killing them off.
01:46:18.000 They're now invading Ukraine and they're not doing well.
01:46:23.000 And they've not been doing well.
01:46:24.000 They've been suffering high casualties.
01:46:26.000 They are definitely losing the war, losing territory.
01:46:29.000 And the mobilization going on is not being well received in the country.
01:46:34.000 They're not mobilizing.
01:46:36.000 I was a reservist and an air guard person.
01:46:38.000 When you mobilize us, we're ready to go.
01:46:40.000 The troops they're trying to mobilize are conscripts.
01:46:43.000 They've got to train them.
01:46:44.000 They've got to equip them.
01:46:45.000 It's going to be a long time for them to build that force up, and it's not a ready-to-go force.
01:46:49.000 And they're going to continue to go badly, which is why the risk of them escalating the nuclear weapons use Or some other retaliation against us like a bio-attack is very real now.
01:47:00.000 Alright, insert name here says YouTube is giving zero TP notifications now.
01:47:05.000 I have to deliberately search for you.
01:47:07.000 Also, shameless plug for my friend who released a poetry book, Our Little Black Book by Ren Ivy for some distraction.
01:47:13.000 And almostLastJedi says YouTube have reached a new low.
01:47:17.000 As well as not getting notifications, I got unsubscribed today.
01:47:20.000 Wonder why I couldn't find the livestream.
01:47:23.000 And, uh, today was one of those days where Ian reminded me at the last minute, the thumbnail doesn't go up.
01:47:28.000 When we launch the livestream, the thumbnail is a grey block.
01:47:32.000 And I have to immediately then re-upload the thumbnail.
01:47:34.000 Otherwise, people scrolling through don't see it, and they wonder why it is they're not seeing it.
01:47:39.000 It's because YouTube is playing dirty games.
01:47:41.000 So, be the notification you want to see in the world.
01:47:44.000 Every Monday through Friday, 8pm we are live at youtube.com slash timcast IRL slash live.
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01:47:58.000 You can also listen on iTunes and Spotify and all the other podcast platforms too because we do post it there at night as well.
01:48:05.000 Let's read some more super chats.
01:48:08.000 Let's see what you got guys.
01:48:10.000 Alright, let's see.
01:48:11.000 We'll grab a good one.
01:48:13.000 I'm trying to find a good question.
01:48:15.000 AJ Cook says, your guest is a nice guy, I'm sure, but his opinions on Russia are cringe CIA MI6 propaganda.
01:48:22.000 Ask Russians with attitude to recommend a guest who can comment intelligently on their side of the story, like armchair warlord.
01:48:28.000 Oh yeah.
01:48:31.000 I would just say, uh, it's who you trust.
01:48:34.000 It sounds like you trust the government.
01:48:35.000 You trust the United States and the media reporting here.
01:48:38.000 No, I trust them in terms of biological weapons programs.
01:48:41.000 I don't think we're developing biological weapons.
01:48:43.000 Let me put it in a way that people who don't trust government might understand better.
01:48:47.000 Like, for example, the preparedness committee, a lot of people say, oh, FEMA's going to do concentration camps against Americans.
01:48:53.000 And that's been out there a lot, and it's absolute nonsense.
01:48:56.000 The people who work for FEMA are largely good people.
01:48:59.000 And if there was some massive conspiracy of FEMA concentration camps, if there was some program where the U.S.
01:49:05.000 is secretly developing biological weapons, a lot of people would have to be involved in doing that, and the secret would eventually get out.
01:49:14.000 If we had a biological weapons program, you would know about it.
01:49:18.000 It would be leaked.
01:49:20.000 You don't have a lot of faith in the confidence of people in government, then why would you think that they can carry out some vast conspiracy, some brilliant conspiracy, and keep it secret?
01:49:29.000 They're not that capable.
01:49:31.000 They can't do it.
01:49:32.000 So whether you trust them or not, the truth is, you know, there is no FEMA concentration camp conspiracy, like some people think.
01:49:40.000 There is no biological weapons program that the United States has.
01:49:44.000 If there was, it would leak.
01:49:45.000 But when it comes to the war in Ukraine, why assume that the reporting coming out is good?
01:49:52.000 If we think the U.S.
01:49:54.000 government isn't capable of these kind of organizational feats, then why would I assume that there's any effective intelligence or armaments happening or honest reporting as it pertains to Ukraine?
01:50:05.000 I mean, I'll put it this way.
01:50:06.000 There's no way Ukraine wins this war if NATO wasn't backing them.
01:50:09.000 They would have been steamrolled in two seconds.
01:50:11.000 The U.S.
01:50:11.000 is clearly involved.
01:50:13.000 So why should I believe...
01:50:14.000 Well, we are involved in the war.
01:50:15.000 We are supporting Ukraine.
01:50:16.000 There's no doubt.
01:50:17.000 No, yeah, right.
01:50:18.000 So why should I assume that the U.S. doesn't have the capabilities of this level of organization
01:50:21.000 when arguably if they're winning in Ukraine, they're actively doing it?
01:50:25.000 I'm sorry, I don't follow that.
01:50:28.000 If the argument is that the U.S.
01:50:30.000 can't operate, the government doesn't have the capability to operate, say, camps that they would use to bring people to in the event of some kind of crisis or catastrophe, then, I mean, you're assuming the government is incapable of doing something.
01:50:41.000 I'm saying there is no FEMA plan in a kind of collapsed situation to round up Americans and put them in concentration camps.
01:50:47.000 There is no plan that, you know, we're going to invite in United Nations troops to take over the country.
01:50:52.000 No, no, no, sure, sure, sure.
01:50:53.000 You hear nonsense like this all the time.
01:50:56.000 And, you know, even if it's legitimate, even if you believe it might be true, you probably don't trust government officials, so you shouldn't trust that there is a capability for them to, one, organize something like this, and then, two, to carry it out and to keep it secret.
01:51:09.000 So don't worry about ridiculous sounding government conspiracy theories.
01:51:13.000 They're not true.
01:51:15.000 They're probably not true.
01:51:16.000 I just had a conniption.
01:51:20.000 I respectfully, absolutely, 100% disagree.
01:51:24.000 They lied about the Vietnam War, the Gulf War I, Gulf War II, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan.
01:51:28.000 They lied about so much, why would they not be lying now?
01:51:32.000 And I think it's best to be skeptical of government and to quote, and to just quote Ronald Reagan here, I think the most terrifying words on the planet are, I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
01:51:42.000 I've been criticizing government throughout your program, you know, the avian flu research that was, not so much that it was done, the fact that they published it.
01:51:50.000 That's what bothered me the most about it, was publishing the how do you make avian flu mammal-to-mammal ferrets and their research, but human-to-human transmission.
01:52:00.000 I'm not a huge fan of government, but the conspiracy theories of, hey, we've got FEMA concentration camps are in the war, our United Nation troops are going to be invited in to take over the country, or that we're developing biological weapons, it's not... Was it a conspiracy?
01:52:15.000 Was it a conspiracy when the United States interned Japanese people in camps?
01:52:19.000 No, they absolutely did.
01:52:19.000 But that happened before.
01:52:20.000 So why would you say it's impossible to happen when it happened before?
01:52:24.000 I'm saying there is no FEMA program to set up concentration camps against Americans or to bring in United Nations troops.
01:52:30.000 I run into people who believe that and it's just nonsense.
01:52:33.000 What you ought to believe in is real threats like Russia using nuclear weapons, like a biological agent, like human-to-human Transmissibility.
01:52:42.000 Like governments lying us into a war.
01:52:45.000 Without inventing false government conspiracies.
01:52:50.000 But you're doing two things I disagree with.
01:52:51.000 The first is bringing the UN into it is sort of like a straw man.
01:52:58.000 Obviously that's ridiculous.
01:52:59.000 I hear that fairly often.
01:53:00.000 For sure, for sure.
01:53:01.000 I mean there's posters you can find in Nebraska and Texas about, you know, UN coming in.
01:53:05.000 But let's steel man it.
01:53:07.000 Luke is right.
01:53:07.000 The U.S.
01:53:08.000 has interned people before.
01:53:09.000 They have the capability to do so.
01:53:10.000 They have the facilities to do so.
01:53:11.000 Well, they have 1.5 million Americans locked up right now, as I mentioned.
01:53:15.000 So the issue is... They created bioweapons.
01:53:17.000 So you've done two... You're doing... The two things I disagree with, one is incorporating the U.N.
01:53:21.000 into it, but the other is... Now I'm losing my train of thought on this one.
01:53:25.000 I've lost it.
01:53:25.000 Luke, what's going on?
01:53:27.000 You can't just believe the government blindly because the government has been... Oh, I don't believe them blindly.
01:53:32.000 I got it.
01:53:32.000 I got it.
01:53:32.000 I got it back.
01:53:34.000 The idea that they have a plan for it is another mistake.
01:53:38.000 They have the capability to do it.
01:53:39.000 They have the facilities to do it.
01:53:41.000 If something bad happened, George W. Bush already signed National Security Presidential Directive 51, meaning they have the intention to do it, if they so wanted.
01:53:52.000 So it's all there.
01:53:53.000 I mean, you can say the UN thing is a conspiracy, and I'll just say, yeah, I don't know anything about that.
01:53:57.000 That seems ridiculous.
01:53:57.000 Why would the UN troops come in here?
01:53:59.000 They don't need it.
01:54:00.000 But to say that the US doesn't have a plan for it, perhaps, but they've expressed intent, if need be, the facilities and the individuals, if they need be.
01:54:07.000 The conspiracy is always the intent.
01:54:09.000 I don't know that intent exists.
01:54:11.000 I know the capability does.
01:54:12.000 So the president's changed quite a few times since George Bush.
01:54:15.000 So you're saying that somehow during all these presidential No, no, no, hold on.
01:54:25.000 National Security Presidential Directive 51 is an executive order that does exist and was updated by Barack Obama.
01:54:32.000 In the event of a catastrophic loss of life or damage to the US as the result of an incident that occurs anywhere on the planet, The president has the authority to essentially introduce a new government to supersede the current one, a new constitutional government, and create a national continuity coordinator who would oversee the new mono-government that exists.
01:54:56.000 Well, they do have that.
01:54:57.000 They do have continuity.
01:54:58.000 Right, right, right.
01:54:59.000 Now, the point is, this executive order exists.
01:55:04.000 The president, this was in 2007, I believe, asserted the authority to basically overwrite existing law due to a major emergency and the need for continuity of government.
01:55:15.000 It's been challenged because people say, well, it's never been challenged.
01:55:18.000 The challenge to it is that it's never actually faced Supreme Court scrutiny, so they don't think it would fly.
01:55:23.000 However, in the event of a catastrophic event affecting the government, who's going to bring it to the Supreme Court?
01:55:29.000 The point is, Barack Obama updated it.
01:55:32.000 It is a component of the federal government and the executive branch, although many people do challenge its authority.
01:55:39.000 There are internment facilities.
01:55:43.000 I mean, you've got prisons, you've got them all over the place.
01:55:47.000 And you've got other large open, you know, I don't know what these are for, but like storage facilities, warehouses, etc.
01:55:54.000 And the U.S.
01:55:54.000 government has interned people before.
01:55:56.000 I'm not saying there's a conspiracy to do it.
01:55:58.000 I'm not saying there's a plan to do it.
01:55:59.000 My issue is there doesn't need to be.
01:56:01.000 There is the intention for the government to wipe out people's laws, you know, wipe out the laws, enforce a new law at their own discretion to remove undesirables.
01:56:10.000 There is the capability to do it, and there are the facilities to do it.
01:56:14.000 So if people are concerned it may happen, look, If somebody, you know, is stacking up dynamite in front of a building and they say, don't worry, we have no intention of blowing it up and they're lining the building with it and they're like, I've got a real concern, you might do that.
01:56:26.000 They can be like, nobody here wants to do that.
01:56:28.000 There's no plan to do that.
01:56:30.000 We have done it before, but we're not doing it now.
01:56:33.000 Don't be surprised when people freak out and think you're going to do it.
01:56:35.000 Yeah.
01:56:35.000 I mean, have you ever heard of the Testige experiments?
01:56:38.000 When the U.S.
01:56:38.000 government, you know, knowingly hurt people?
01:56:41.000 They were doing scientific biological experiments on unsuspecting human beings.
01:56:45.000 The CIA did that with MKUltra.
01:56:47.000 They hurt and punished and poisoned people.
01:56:49.000 The U.S.
01:56:49.000 government even spread radioactive waste inside of the United States.
01:56:55.000 There's historical documented cases of the government doing large biological testing, especially even with radiation, on unsuspecting American public.
01:57:04.000 So why would you ever believe that that is not ever possible ever again?
01:57:09.000 That's not what I said.
01:57:09.000 I didn't say it's not ever possible again.
01:57:11.000 I said in answer to your question, no.
01:57:13.000 The U.S.
01:57:13.000 does not have biological weapons programs now, and I don't believe we do have biological weapons programs now.
01:57:19.000 If we did, it would be illegal, and it would probably be leaked, because you wouldn't be able to keep it secret.
01:57:25.000 So I'm not worried about a legal... The government never does anything illegal?
01:57:30.000 So let me ask.
01:57:32.000 So the biological research facilities in Ukraine that the U.S.
01:57:36.000 is desperate to defend, They're doing gain-of-function research there.
01:57:40.000 They were.
01:57:40.000 They admitted that, yes.
01:57:42.000 So they're making viruses more dangerous.
01:57:45.000 Maybe.
01:57:45.000 I don't know the specifics of what they were doing there.
01:57:47.000 That's what gain-of-function means.
01:57:48.000 You can make them more dangerous because you've got to develop defenses to them.
01:57:54.000 Can the pathogens they were experimenting on be used as weapons?
01:57:56.000 Yes, they could.
01:57:57.000 So it's semantics to argue there's no biological weapons program.
01:58:01.000 And optimistic thinking.
01:58:02.000 That's like saying the United States could use nuclear weapons to destroy their own states and cities.
01:58:06.000 Yeah, theoretically you could.
01:58:07.000 It's not realistic.
01:58:08.000 No, no, no, that's not.
01:58:09.000 I'm saying it would be like the U.S.
01:58:11.000 is building nuclear bombs and saying, but they're not weapons, they're for mining.
01:58:14.000 And it's like, OK, well, like, can the bomb be dropped on a city?
01:58:17.000 Sure.
01:58:18.000 But it's not a weapon.
01:58:19.000 It's like, look, you can make a padlock into a weapon.
01:58:22.000 So it's a semantic argument.
01:58:23.000 I'll absolutely concede, officially on paper, there's no biological weapons being made.
01:58:28.000 But if they're making viruses more dangerous, those can easily be weaponized.
01:58:32.000 And it's just a semantic argument.
01:58:34.000 And have you ever heard of Agent Orange?
01:58:36.000 Very much so.
01:58:36.000 I wrote the official Air Force history of the disposal of Agent Orange.
01:58:39.000 Well, that should tell you that the government is capable of poisoning and using bioweapons on large populations of people!
01:58:46.000 Let's read a couple more Super Chats.
01:58:48.000 We got LoneWolf36S.
01:58:50.000 He says, Ethereum 2.0 just came out.
01:58:52.000 It's already controlled.
01:58:53.000 It's now impossible to mine it.
01:58:55.000 Oh, wow.
01:58:56.000 Well, it's not controlled.
01:58:58.000 It's a new proof-of-stake method.
01:59:00.000 They're not doing the mining where they just changed it.
01:59:02.000 Yeah, you can still mine Ethereum 1.
01:59:06.000 Pioneer Smokehouse's channel says AWS controls the nodes now.
01:59:10.000 They moved electric use from miners to AWS, and they can stop at any time.
01:59:14.000 It's very concerning.
01:59:15.000 I read that, and I didn't know if it was true or not.
01:59:17.000 I don't know who to confirm it with.
01:59:19.000 It's so new, I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's true.
01:59:23.000 Bro, it's gonna be Amazon, man.
01:59:24.000 The centralization of the ownership of the direction of your money, man.
01:59:27.000 If you love Bezos, he's gonna sell you everything you need.
01:59:30.000 They're already doing Amazon.
01:59:32.000 Doesn't Amazon own Whole Foods?
01:59:33.000 If your Ethereum's already in the Amazon account, you'll get a discount on Amazon products.
01:59:38.000 Host on our node!
01:59:40.000 Amazon literally has stores.
01:59:41.000 They had a new store open up in North Hollywood.
01:59:43.000 Really?
01:59:43.000 Is that the one where you can walk in without a clerk or whatever, a cashier?
01:59:49.000 I don't know for sure.
01:59:50.000 I didn't really go in there.
01:59:51.000 I'm not the target audience, you know?
01:59:53.000 But I assume so.
01:59:54.000 I assume if it's Amazon and they were talking about it, yeah.
01:59:56.000 I went to that one in Seattle and we did a little stunt where we proved it's really easy to just take whatever you want without paying for it.
02:00:04.000 And it was really simple.
02:00:07.000 I don't know if I can actually say exactly what we did.
02:00:09.000 I may have already said it, but I said because I didn't want people to go do it.
02:00:12.000 It's really, really simple to do.
02:00:14.000 But I was able to walk out and only pay for one thing out of like 10.
02:00:18.000 And I should say, in my account, we did pay for everything.
02:00:21.000 We didn't steal anything.
02:00:23.000 We just figured out a loophole and then made sure everything was paid up.
02:00:26.000 But we proved that you could easily do this.
02:00:29.000 I called the company, and when I explained what I did, they went, oh, we don't care.
02:00:33.000 And the gist of it was that the amount of money they save by not having employees covers any potential loss from glitches in the system.
02:00:43.000 That'll be your future.
02:00:44.000 There will be just buildings.
02:00:45.000 You walk in and grab stuff, and then it just deducts the crypto from your account.
02:00:49.000 And if it's an error, nobody cares.
02:00:51.000 Congratulations.
02:00:51.000 You know, you jaywalk.
02:00:53.000 You get fined.
02:00:53.000 Money gets automatically taken out of your account.
02:00:56.000 That's right.
02:00:56.000 Commit wrong-think.
02:00:57.000 Your child can't go to school anymore.
02:00:58.000 You say a naughty word.
02:01:00.000 PayPal takes a bunch of money from your financial account.
02:01:02.000 You can't get a plane ticket or train ticket anymore.
02:01:04.000 Your internet service is cut down.
02:01:06.000 Right.
02:01:06.000 Already happening in China.
02:01:07.000 Right, exactly.
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02:01:34.000 Drew, do you want to shout anything out?
02:01:36.000 No, just if you're interested in Fortuit Ranch working for us, franchising or joining, it's www.fortuitranch.com.
02:01:42.000 Right on.
02:01:43.000 Thanks for having me on the show.
02:01:44.000 Absolutely.
02:01:45.000 Thanks for coming, man.
02:01:45.000 I still have a jillion things I want to talk about, and I usually talk about them on lukeuncensored.com.
02:01:50.000 We're also, of course, implementing alternatives to PayPal.
02:01:53.000 We got another second alternative that we're going to be implementing very soon.
02:01:57.000 Today, I made a video where I was screaming on the top of my lungs I couldn't control myself.
02:02:01.000 I couldn't hold it back.
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02:02:05.000 Thank you so much for having me.
02:02:07.000 Great discussion.
02:02:07.000 Thank you for the opinions.
02:02:10.000 Yeah, big time, man.
02:02:10.000 Thanks.
02:02:11.000 Thanks for clarifying that depleted uranium isn't considered tactical nuclear weaponry.
02:02:16.000 Also, keep in mind, deflationary currency is the future of a sustainable currency where the longer it sits there, the more it dissipates.
02:02:23.000 So you want to keep it moving.
02:02:25.000 Then we can make more of it when new people are born.
02:02:28.000 So it encourages growth of humans.
02:02:31.000 Of course, it's not just about the number of humans.
02:02:33.000 It's about the value of the humans.
02:02:34.000 Are you calculating human body heat to see how much crypto is produced?
02:02:37.000 Let's find out and let's do it together.
02:02:39.000 I love you.
02:02:39.000 See you later.
02:02:41.000 All right, and you guys can follow me on Instagram at Surge.com spelled out.
02:02:45.000 I don't have anything on Twitter or anything.
02:02:46.000 I might if Elon goes through with the buy.
02:02:48.000 We'll see.
02:02:49.000 But as of now, that's everything.
02:02:51.000 Thank you.
02:02:51.000 Let's make a crypto where as soon as you're born, you get like a hundred tokens.
02:02:56.000 And then like everybody gets a hundred tokens.
02:02:58.000 And then when you're born, you get one and then you can trade and stuff with it.
02:03:01.000 But like, there you go.
02:03:02.000 You're alive.
02:03:02.000 Here's some money.
02:03:04.000 Yeah, it might be something like that.
02:03:05.000 Like, for every, like, joule of heat your body produces, you get a crypto token added to your account or something.
02:03:11.000 But you gotta be in the pod and eating the bugs.
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02:03:16.000 Thanks for hanging out.