On this week's episode of Drunk Austrian Economics, we discuss the Supreme Court's ruling against Joe Biden's Supreme Court mandate for the mandatory vaccination of children with tetanus and preventative care. We also hear about the Oath Keepers being charged with sedition and conspiracy, and we're joined by Free the People's President Matt Kibbe to talk about all that and much more.
00:00:16.000Now that's good news, but there still is a bit of a defeat in that some medical workers can still be mandated to get the vaccine, but you win some, you lose some.
00:00:24.000Now here's where it gets really funny.
00:00:25.000Joe Biden, he's calling on states to do the right thing and defy the Supreme Court and implement the vaccine mandates anyway.
00:00:35.000Oh, you gotta love Joe Biden, and it's just been really, really crazy with the constant authoritarianism.
00:00:40.000We've got another funny story too, and I'll just, I won't bury the lead on this one.
00:00:43.000Newsweek's reporting that Joe Rogan is going to be in D.C.
00:00:47.000for this big protest in about a week or so, where they're all protesting against the mandates, and sorry to spoil it for everybody.
00:00:56.000I have confirmation Joe Rogan will not be going, but we'll talk about that story and we will talk about that protest and the reporting.
00:01:03.000The RNC is going to require, supposedly, they're going to require their candidates, potential candidates, to sign a pledge saying they will not participate in presidential debates with the debate commission.
00:01:33.000I am the president of a nonprofit called Free the People, and our mission is to use stories to connect with young people the values of liberty with how we live our daily lives and try to convince them that people working together from the bottom up can do all sorts of beautiful things.
00:01:52.000I run a show at Blaze TV called Kibbe on Liberty, and I am a libertarian, hopefully recovering.
00:02:14.000Hey guys, so as I become older and that much wiser, I like to give unsolicited life advice and that's why I made this t-shirt that says people will forget your words, people will forget your accomplishments, But no one will forget that you voted for Joe Biden, and I think it's a very important message that you could also spread by going to TheBestPoliticalShirts.com.
00:02:35.000It always starts a lot of interesting conversation and gets people laughing.
00:02:39.000And if I could do that, I'll be happy.
00:03:01.000I think, yes, we have the wide shot here.
00:03:02.000Here we have all our whiskeys in front of Matt, who's going to be doing a full flight of our whiskey sampler over from the corner, which is going to be really fun to watch during the show.
00:03:11.000I'm also here pushing all the buttons in the corner.
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00:04:28.000I agree. I think they're correct. They wrote requiring the vaccination of 84 million Americans
00:04:34.000Selected simply because they work for employers with more than 100 employees certainly falls in the latter category
00:04:39.000Where they said although congress has indisputably given OSHA the power to regulate occupational dangers
00:04:45.000It has not given the agency the power to regulate public health more broadly
00:04:49.000The dissent, I find actually kind of humorous.
00:04:52.000In the dissent, the liberal justices wrote, because it really was split six to three, When we are wise, we know not to displace the judgments of experts acting within the sphere of Congress marked out and under presidential control to deal with emergency conditions.
00:05:08.000In the face of a still-raging pandemic, the court tells the agency charged with protecting worker safety that it may not do so in all of the workplaces needed.
00:05:17.000As disease and death continue to mount, this court tells the agency that it cannot respond in the most effective way possible.
00:05:36.000I think Brandon wants to be a dictator, so this is definitely a step back for him.
00:05:41.000But he's also urging businesses and states to still implement this on their own.
00:05:47.000I'm surprised he wasn't Begging the Supreme Court just to censor all the ... arguments here against his vaccine mandate this is a ... major blow against his agenda against the narrative and ... thank goodness we don't live in a country like Canada or ... Austria or Australia where people are literally being ... robbed of their wealth for not complying with the whims and ...
00:06:08.000Still, you know, by and large, it's still crazy.
00:06:10.000I bet you probably agree with this too, Matt, that we have to be in a place where, you know, some mystical figures in robes decided that we could decide what medicine to take for ourselves.
00:06:20.000That's, that's where we're at right now.
00:06:23.000And I was freaking out today because, um, earlier in the day, everyone expected this to come out and then they re released some other nothing burger decision about something that I don't even remember what it was.
00:06:33.000And I'm like, oh shit, are they gonna punt for a week?
00:06:36.000And happily they did the right thing, but the absurdity, and even listening to the more conservative justices arguing that it would be okay for a state or someone further down the food chain, a different government official, to then impose on you This mandate that you have to take this vaccine.
00:06:58.000I'm of the old school where individual freedom and freedom of conscience is actually a real thing.
00:07:03.000And I thought that's what America was.
00:07:08.000I ascribe to a theory that Thomas Massey introduced me the day that Joe Biden Announce this and you remember they dragged their heels on the rule and Massey's theory was they know it's unconstitutional They know they're that they're going to get shot down but in the meantime They're gonna bully as many businesses as possible into complying with this and I feel like Biden is proving that theory today
00:07:32.000And so what happens is a ton of businesses, when they heard Joe Biden issue his press conference, which was not even executive order, they just went, okay, everybody, you got to do it.
00:07:54.000So I think that was the plan from the get go.
00:07:55.000And I feel like, and maybe we'll get into this in a different context, but I feel like if you were forced to get vaccinated, maybe secretly you want to kind of force everyone else to do it too, because you're pissed, like you got you got sold a bill of goods.
00:08:51.000That sounds like extortion to me, just a little bit there.
00:08:54.000But there was also another ruling specifically with health care workers at facilities who are receiving Medicare and Medicaid funds, which was ruled against them, which means that people who are working in these facilities will have to take the vax or lose their jobs at a key time where already Seattle and Los Angeles hospitals there have announced that if they have nurses and doctors who have tested positive for COVID, that they need to come back into work.
00:09:22.000Seattle and Los Angeles also implemented vaccine passports for their employees in the medical staff.
00:09:29.000And now we're having COVID-positive patients, excuse me, COVID-positive nurses and doctors literally go back to work dealing with other people inside of hospitals all in the name of what?
00:10:11.000They're using government healthcare now and, and, and telling people they're going to take away their healthcare if they don't follow the government's orders.
00:10:17.000Well, the logic was if we're paying for it, we being the federal government, um, we get to tell you what to do with your body.
00:10:25.000So welcome to government run medicine.
00:10:42.000So I was actually recently told by a medical worker that they were told monoclonal antibodies no longer work and that they're not to recommend them.
00:10:55.000Look, we always tell everybody we're not here to give medical advice and that's like a big topic because of so much of what's going on in the pandemic.
00:11:01.000Go talk to a doctor and see what they say about it because I'm being told that they're starting to pull monoclonal antibodies.
00:11:06.000Well, I had a friend who was sick with COVID-19 and they were having a very serious case of it.
00:11:13.000Some of the early preliminary data is highlighting how some of the antibodies don't work, but there is one specific antibody that does work with Omicron.
00:11:21.000But for Delta, a lot of them do work by a broad basis.
00:11:24.000This is just again some of the preliminary early findings.
00:11:28.000I'm not here giving you any kind of medical advice, but it has been siphoned off and my friend who was trying to get antibodies for herself and her husband because they weren't doing too well was told because of Biden.
00:11:38.000Because of the governor in New York, you can't get them.
00:11:40.000And there was even an article in the Daily Mail that said whites need not apply for critical COVID care, for antibody care, because of their skin color, as of course they're also passing laws in many places, like in New York, where if you were born a specific skin color, you're denied access to medicines compared to other people because of their skin color.
00:12:09.000That was like fear-mongering techniques of Obamacare that there's going to be government-run healthcare and the government's going to decide who lives and dies.
00:12:24.000My wife, Terry, got COVID over Christmas and, okay, I'm going to get monoclonal antibodies.
00:12:32.000And it turns out that they pulled two of three types of monoclonals off the market, the Biden administration did, because the assumption was they work on Delta, but they don't work on Omicron.
00:12:43.000And so they pulled all of these things away from the hospital.
00:12:47.000So in our case, we couldn't get treatment for my wife.
00:12:50.000She's fine now, but she would have done better with them.
00:12:54.000And then it turns out that, you know, we thought it was all Omicron, but it's not really all Omicron.
00:13:42.000That's why we have an executive structure.
00:13:45.000Because when we've got to move fast in emergencies, it does make sense.
00:13:48.000But we're at this point now where too much is being absorbed by this executive authority.
00:13:53.000It can't be total control of our medical system in one place.
00:13:58.000The FDA is also intercepting packages with medicines that some people are using to help treat this.
00:14:04.000So when you have the government outright intervening in such egregious ways, and you see the result of it with more people being hurt, It really, really should leave a lot of people with the questions, what are they doing here other than making the situation that much worse for everyone else?
00:14:18.000As you said, the FDA was intercepting certain... Packages with specific medications that have been a big topic of debate.
00:14:24.000Obviously, these are the medications that Joe Rogan has talked about before.
00:14:28.000I don't even want to name them because of the...
00:14:30.000I came across a video on Twitter where apparently there's been a bunch of thefts of train packages in LA.
00:14:36.000I don't know if you guys saw this on the scanner.
00:14:38.000They heard about it and they went down there and it's like just ripped open packages of Amazon packages, boxes, COVID tests, fishing lures, EpiPens.
00:14:54.000I wanted to get back to that point about executive authority and the need for emergency response.
00:14:59.000My view of emergency response is there's an agency that says, okay, we're going to go to these local communities that are affected by a pandemic and ask them what they need.
00:15:07.000And we can do that very, very quickly because we have the authority to respond rapidly, but not to dictate what the communities have to do, not to go to local mayors and say, you're now mandated to do this.
00:15:17.000So when you look at, here's what I love about, about mask mandates, especially.
00:15:22.000We work on the border with Frederick County and I think Washington County in Maryland.
00:15:26.000And so you can like walk 10 feet and there's a building with a mask mandate and then walk 10 feet and there's one without.
00:15:34.000And then the crazier thing is the further out you get from the center of the county, the less likely you are to even experience the mask mandate, which it just does not work.
00:15:42.000But then they want to start punishing businesses and fining them.
00:15:45.000And it's just like, look, Being able to rapidly respond to a crisis by showing up with resources.
00:16:21.000He probably thought he was doing the right thing.
00:16:23.000He probably thought he knew better than them.
00:16:25.000And the problem with governments using local knowledge is that arrogance.
00:16:31.000They don't want to cede the fact that they don't know, because that's political danger for them.
00:16:35.000I disagree with Andrew Cuomo not thinking he was doing the right thing, though.
00:16:39.000Like, I understand your point, and I agree with that, but Cuomo had the Mercy medical vessel, and he had the Javits Center, and he was like, I'm not giving Trump a victory.
00:16:50.000If you do this, you will kill old people.
00:16:54.000And he said, instead of using the Javits Center, which is only at a third capacity, or the Mercy vessel, which isn't being used at all, I'm gonna kill the old people!
00:17:03.000Or the Central Park Hospital that was there that had received no one.
00:17:07.000I mean, you could even facetiously say that he was on the phone with his brother at CNN being like, hey, we need more of those deaths to boost up ratings.
00:17:14.000As of course, there's CNN officials literally bragging about how they were happy how more people were dying because it was gangbusters for ratings, which is absolutely absurd.
00:17:23.000So again, that's facetiously sensationalistic to say that but it's not out of the realm of possibility
00:17:28.000but how they've been behaving. Man, this is the kind of stuff that makes me
00:17:31.000want to do sketch comedy because you can't do it on YouTube but you'd
00:17:33.000be able to do it on Rumble. Yeah. Where you just have Chris Cuomo call up
00:17:36.000Andrew and he'll be like Chris my show's not doing too well we need more deaths what
00:17:57.000This is why there's such a big talk about conspiracy of him being outed because If he got hit with that, if he was responsible for that, so would a lot of other Democratic governors in Michigan, in New Jersey, who would have been held responsible for it.
00:18:12.000And that's why there's conspiracy talk of Andrew being kind of taken out, so there wasn't any kind of possibility of him facing any justice for that specific cause, because it would implicate all these other governors that were Democratic, that were following orders from the federal government that was telling them to do this.
00:18:30.000So in this report from the Daily Mail, they mentioned that the Supreme Court has voted 63 to block Biden's vaccine mandates.
00:18:35.000However, a disappointed Joe will tell businesses to adopt the rules anyway, and says it's up to states to do the right thing.
00:18:44.000Biden has urged businesses to bring in vaccine mandates on their own, and pushed states to do the right thing after the Supreme Court voted 63 to block his sweeping rules on private companies in a crushing blow to his pandemic response.
00:18:56.000The high court did, however, allow a vaccine mandate for employees at healthcare facilities receiving federal dollars to go into effect.
00:19:02.000Now, there's an important distinction here.
00:19:04.000Joe Biden is saying ignore the Supreme Court in a certain sense.
00:19:07.000But the Supreme Court did not rule that vaccine mandates are completely illegal.
00:19:12.000The Supreme Court ruled that Joe Biden doesn't have the authority through OSHA to mandate businesses require vaccinations.
00:19:19.000So, Joe Biden comes out and says, then it's up to you guys to implement these because I can't force you to do it.
00:19:25.000Now, you know what I think is going to happen?
00:19:27.000I think the blue states and I think all the big companies are going to do it anyway.
00:19:32.000Well, they're going to try to do it, but there's also a very interesting article also from the Daily Mail talking about how a lot of the cases are flatlining in a lot of these major democratic states.
00:19:43.000And if this goes along with the theory that I've been talking about and many other medical professionals have been talking about for a few weeks now, There should be a sharp decline in the numbers, just like we have seen in South Africa.
00:19:53.000I might be wrong on that assessment and that theory, but if that's the case, they're going to have a hard justification for more lockdowns, more mandates.
00:20:00.000And I think this is their kind of last push.
00:20:03.000And I think this is a major setback against their agenda.
00:20:06.000And I don't see it going further from here, from my perspective.
00:20:09.000It's kind of a dilemma for businesses, because on the one hand, they're dealing with employees, some of whom are Karens, right?
00:20:15.000They want that vaccine mandate and they want double masking and they're scared to death.
00:20:20.000But there's other employees that say, I'm not going to do it, and you're going to lose me.
00:20:24.000And those may well be some of their most important employees.
00:20:27.000But you have the chief executive officer of the United States saying, I got an offer for you that you can't refuse.
00:20:35.000And if you say no, I'm going to send some of these agencies to check out your stuff and make sure that you're in full compliance with OSHA, full compliance with this.
00:20:43.000There are so many rules and regulations that every company in America is surely violating right now because they couldn't possibly know what they are.
00:20:50.000Biden still has the ability to make their lives hell.
00:20:54.000And what I think a lot of the big corporations wanted was the cover of being forced to do it by the government.
00:21:03.000And they're going to discover that they're going to lose a lot of their talent if they push forward.
00:21:07.000I got to tell you, you know, I can certainly sympathize and empathize with a lot of these businesses because there are people who won't admit when they get sick because they're like, no, no, no, I'm not sick.
00:22:34.000Cause it seems like they're shifting the narrative from, oh my gosh, so many people are getting to COVID or getting COVID to being more like, well, it's still a problem.
00:22:42.000We still have to worry about it, but we also have a midterm to win or something.
00:22:45.000I'm not sure what the strategy is there.
00:22:48.000So what was the deal with their, their decision to say, you can't talk about these increases, sharp increases, you don't They're looking for an exit strategy.
00:22:56.000And they've been scaring the crap out of people for two years now.
00:23:40.000We've been talking about it for a few weeks now, and this could be why Jake Tapper said, you know, the hospital numbers are inflated.
00:23:45.000This is why the CDC came out and said 75% of deaths are because of four or more comorbidities.
00:23:51.000This is why the New York governor came out, said around 40% of the hospitalizations are literally People who were there not because of Corona but with Corona because of other incidences and there's more and more of these announcements Something is definitely going on here.
00:24:04.000And I think there's definitely a bigger agenda at play here.
00:24:08.000I figured out Luke's agenda By saying words like comorbidity.
00:24:12.000Yeah, the AI on YouTube can't track the words.
00:24:14.000He's saying You should have seen what I was saying a specific kind of medication a year ago I will remember it forever.
00:25:16.000Well, regardless of algorithms, big tech is a big problem in terms of limiting speech and shutting down dissent and shutting down conversations.
00:25:23.000But I feel at this point, with what Biden is saying, I don't know if the Democrats are going to get the message before the midterms, right?
00:25:32.000How does Joe Biden come back from the Supreme Court struck down his mandate, he then double triples down saying, do it anyway, And then we're supposed to, we're going to expect Democrats to change their minds in a few months and be like, everyone's free now, vote for us.
00:25:48.000Because if they keep running on lockdowns, they're going to lose.
00:25:52.000Well, he's got two fundamental problems.
00:25:54.000One is that the people that were forced to be vaccinated or the people that lost their jobs or the people that are looking at empty grocery shelves are going to show up.
00:26:06.000And midterms are low turnout elections.
00:26:08.000So the midterms are going to be dominated by people that have suffered under the Biden regime.
00:26:14.000And the other problem, and this goes back to what James Carvel so famously said, it's the economy, stupid.
00:26:20.000It's going to be very hard to fix what they've done in terms of supply chains, in terms of employment problems, in terms of all these things that people are feeling at the very local level.
00:26:32.000There's no way to turn that around in time.
00:26:35.000So I think they're faced with, With what they're doing is like, let's just keep doubling down and hope for a miracle.
00:26:41.000But it seems like political suicide to me.
00:27:10.000I guess she was like, I know what you're trying to do with the pundits and the talking points, you know, because they're saying, but we are focused on what's happening today.
00:27:39.000Um, I think it might even be even something like, uh, Michelle Obama or Oprah.
00:27:44.000Who knows what they're doing, but I do not see anyway, unless they make, uh, you know, clones of him, um, or some kind of GMO creature and put them in the front of us.
00:27:55.000I don't see how they're gonna- There is a conspiracy theory they cloned Biden.
00:29:54.000Actually, it does make sense to bolster the economy by printing more money because everyone will then have money to spend and eat food with and, you know, we should do it.
00:30:01.000And I actually like Andrew Yang, but I definitely think he would be like print money.
00:30:05.000But that would have been like $1.2 trillion, not $6 trillion.
00:31:02.000And I'm pretty sure he just committed a constitutional violation because the government can't incentivize or make requests of private companies to violate people's rights.
00:31:11.000That is still a government violation of someone's rights.
00:31:14.000So if I actually tweeted this, that the vaccine mandates are a violation of our right to peaceably assemble.
00:32:31.000They got rid of the like button on YouTube because of Dr. Fauci and the Biden administration's YouTube channel being just obliterated by dislikes every time he went on.
00:32:42.000When a politician begs you and they have no authority, it's really a good feeling.
00:32:46.000He has a lot of authority and the intelligence agencies have long extensive ties to big tech social media.
00:32:52.000So again, it is interesting to see him back.
00:32:54.000I mean, his poll numbers have also dropped.
00:32:56.000They dropped 11 points from last month, according to the Quincy Pack poll.
00:33:01.000So obviously he is not doing good at all.
00:33:08.000You're just trying to be smug right now.
00:33:10.000Somebody super chatted, is the AI sensor looking for the word with?
00:33:14.000Because Luke has never pronounced that word correctly.
00:33:16.000I'm going to speak English how I want to speak English.
00:33:21.000There's also this other headline that I read today that said, Biden dodges question on COVID and smirks at press conference soon after rambling speech where he bungled his testing czar's name and announced plan for one billion tests.
00:33:32.000And you know, how is that not popular?
00:33:34.000How are people not supporting him in his larger efforts?
00:33:56.000The video you're referencing too Luke is incredible I mean it's like him for like 45 seconds standing there like breathing slow looking down almost laughing at the ridiculousness of it Yeah, ignoring questions.
00:34:07.000It was it was awful this press conference He did where he said I can't even I can't even tell you what he said because it was jibber-jabber nonsense He was just like we got it one thing.
00:34:17.000We don't want to we don't want to do Work into track that wait no we don't want to work, and I'm just like what?
00:34:41.000He's now, you know, look, with all due respect to anyone who's older, there's a certain time in your life where you sit back, you smell the flowers, and you just, you've done it.
00:36:12.000Yeah, independents have swung for the Republicans at this point, or away from Democrats.
00:36:18.000I was looking at one study that tracked the party switching from 2016 to 2020, Independent has become the smallest faction because they're mostly polarizing.
00:36:29.000But about two to one, they go to Republicans.
00:36:33.000So maybe it's a little bit too generous, actually.
00:36:36.000It's a bit more independent voters are becoming Republican, but a large amount of Democrats are becoming Republican as well.
00:36:43.000Even their best in the party, like Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang.
00:36:47.000I believe Andrew Yang left the party, too, didn't he?
00:37:25.000Now, the funny thing is, I see Vaush, the socialist commentator, say, oh, what a completely shocking turn of events, and I'm just like, are you not upset that you're bleeding out your center?
00:37:42.000You are losing support every day, and your attitude is, ha ha ha!
00:37:47.000I really think that COVID authoritarianism and lockdowns and vaccine mandates, these are the only issue that matters.
00:37:54.000And all the blue checks and the media have ignored for so long this boiling up, bottom up culture of people that are just pissed off and they feel violated.
00:38:06.000Maybe they lost their jobs or maybe they just had personal medical reasons for not being forced to mandate this vaccine.
00:38:15.000I think that's who's going to show up, and I think it's the beginning of a new political realignment that I've hoped to see for a very long time.
00:38:23.000Authoritarians, you've said this a thousand times, authoritarians versus people that just want to be free to live their lives.
00:38:30.000Yeah, and that's why I think we do see some Republicans join the Democratic Party.
00:38:36.000The Lincoln Project types, they just want to be rich, they want to be in control, and they think you're stupid.
00:38:42.000Michael Bloomberg, is he really a Democrat?
00:38:44.000I mean, he's bounced back and forth, and he's the guy who thinks you shouldn't be allowed to buy soda because you're too fat.
00:38:49.000And I'll tell you this, sure, I think people who are overweight should probably lose weight, but I'm not going to tell you you can't have a soda.
00:38:55.000You know, I can't track your whole life.
00:38:59.000And so what ends up happening is I might, you know, on policy issues be a little bit more collectivist than your average conservative.
00:39:06.000But on issues of freedom and liberty, I'm like, well, if we can't vote for it, we can't agree.
00:39:10.000I'm not going to force anyone to do it.
00:39:12.000And the Democratic Party in the left, the establishment left, has overwhelmingly become shut up and do as you're told and adhere to the cult and the collective.
00:39:35.000A lot of people on the left, a lot of Democrats, don't get that.
00:39:38.000I'll be talking to people who are like, you know, Democrat-leaning, and they'll say something about the Republican Party from 20 years ago.
00:39:45.000They'll be like, yeah, well, the Republicans are the ones who did this with Afghanistan and Iraq, and I was like, yeah, I agree.
00:40:44.000When the dust settled, it turned out that they were all just neocons that had become Republicans in the first place.
00:40:50.000They were Democrats before, but they had become Republicans because they really liked war.
00:40:55.000And when Trump sided with Rand Paul and the fairly small Liberty Wing of the Republican Party, that was a shot across the bow because they lost control at the top.
00:41:06.000And I think a lot of this never-Trump hysteria can really be described by attempts to scale back some of the never-ending wars.
00:41:17.000I don't think Trump was perfect in that regard, but I didn't vote for him in 2016.
00:41:21.000When I was looking in 2020, and I saw the timeline for withdrawal for Afghanistan, I saw Trump complaining about Syria, I saw Trump openly bragging about selling weapons to these countries, I was like, we're getting a little bit of honesty in that regard, and he is trying to get out.
00:41:33.000It's the best I've seen in my life, so I'm for it.
00:41:36.000He didn't start any new wars, but that's one of the reasons they really, really hate him.
00:41:40.000Yeah, he was very far from perfect, and he never actually succeeded in getting us out of Afghanistan.
00:41:45.000And I think that was a strategic political mistake, also a policy mistake on his part.
00:41:53.000The future is let's focus on personal responsibility and individual liberty and maybe let's do less of this war stuff.
00:42:03.000Every war that the government declares, and it's not just the war on terrorism, The war on COVID has been the same damn thing in terms of enriching the corporate interests that collude with governments to do all this stuff against the rest of us.
00:42:20.000And you know, the military-industrial complex, there's a COVID-industrial complex.
00:42:25.000And man, $6 trillion buys a lot of interests.
00:42:29.000Yeah, just like the war on drugs, the war on COVID, the war on terrorism just breeds more drugs, COVID and terrorism as of course there's profit incentives built within the government and the larger institutions that corrupt them that of course profit highly off of those problems being made worse as they're being sold to you as they're going to be the solutions to them when they're not.
00:42:50.000I think that no matter who wins in the culture war, this is the end of the American empire.
00:42:55.000It's the end of this global American mission.
00:42:59.000Military bases overseas will probably start shrinking, and the reason I think that is The right side, whatever that really means, I don't know.
00:43:07.000Because it's not about conservative values necessarily, but it is more about anti-war, it's about freedom, it's about personal responsibility.
00:43:13.000I think if that succeeds, like Trump supporters, civil libertarianism, you've got no willpower towards foreign war.
00:43:22.000If the establishment ends up winning, if the left, I mean, you've still got the progressive flank coming in, and they're just chaotic and destructive.
00:43:29.000So if the personal responsibility individualist faction does succeed, America is going to come back to just working for America.
00:43:37.000And then the end result, the left should be cheering about.
00:43:40.000Well, real quick, the progressive activists should be celebrating that Trump supporters hate war.
00:43:46.000Instead, they're combating against them, which says to me, they're just chaotic and destructive.
00:43:50.000So if the Democrats are the establishment, Uniparty is not long for this political world.
00:43:55.000I was going to say that I think isolationism, we had that before World War I, I think, and part of why World War I broke out is because the U.S., looking back, maybe wasn't involved.
00:44:05.000It's not the reason why, but, you know, the military-industrial complex basically was in 1946, I think, the liberal economic order got created, basically, to put American military bases all over the world, British, American, French military bases, and then defend, make sure that another World War III never breaks out, another World War never breaks out.
00:44:24.000And I also agree that American imperialism is on a decline.
00:44:27.000I don't know if that means that there's not going to be any military bases, America is going to isolate, and then a world war is going to break out.
00:44:49.000They want to sell off all of our assets and resources to China and extract the value from this country, and then we're left holding an empty bag.
00:44:55.000And then you have the Trump side which says we want to defend our borders, bring industry and jobs back to the United States and then there's just no, there's not going to be any power or willpower or force of will towards international conflict from the United States at the very least.
00:45:08.000Do they consider Iraq part of our borders?
00:45:19.000One of the reasons they really hate Donald Trump is because their long-standing plan with Europe, natural gas, oil pipelines, and all that was disrupted to such an absurd degree.
00:45:32.000I've talked about this, but they wanted to build the pipeline, the Qatar-Turkey pipeline, through Syria, through Turkey, into Europe to offset the Gazprom, you know, gas monopoly.
00:45:40.000As soon as Trump got in, they knew that plan was done.
00:45:43.000Everything they had been working on was going to be shut down because Donald Trump didn't want to be involved in these foreign wars.
00:45:49.000He didn't want to be involved in Syria.
00:45:51.000He didn't want to be involved in Afghanistan.
00:45:53.000And that meant we would, the United States, would not be able to win this international conflict in the region.
00:45:58.000So they did everything in their power to shut him down.
00:46:16.000And he ignores them and he won't listen.
00:46:18.000And then stumbling, bumbling Donald Trump, and I know he's not really, but I mean, in this one capacity, he stumbles upon a video of Joe Biden demanding a quid pro quo with Ukraine.
00:47:14.000He had some populistic policies that do deserve to be commended and respected no matter what side of the political aisle you're on, but he did continue the war in Yemen, fighting alongside al-Qaeda, fighting alongside the Saudi coalition, creating one of the worst humanitarian crises in the world.
00:47:57.000So when they come to him and say this, he goes, Oh, okay, I'll do that.
00:48:01.000I'm not saying what he was doing was good.
00:48:02.000I'm saying he was dismantling their plan because he didn't understand or care about their, you know, circuitous plan towards gas, you know, interdependency.
00:48:11.000And when it came to bombing Syria, yeah, you're right.
00:49:29.000But I think a lot of people weren't expecting him to be in there, and I think he capitulated some, he fought some, but I think that's up for a lot of people's own personal interpretation of how they see him.
00:49:39.000Way too much capitulation, and I'm sure you guys have covered this in a different conversation, but my theory without any evidence is that he took a dive on Snowden because they made him.
00:50:19.000If Donald Trump takes the White House in 2024, he takes the election and then in 2025, you know, come January 20th or whatever, there is another Trump administration.
00:50:29.000He will emerge from that White House with glowing red eyes and energy emitting from his body as he raises his finger and he says, arrest them all.
00:50:38.000And he just goes after every single one of these people who wronged him or slighted him, who slighted him, who smeared, who lied, because he's going to be unrestrained.
00:50:47.000He's just going to be, I'm done playing this.
00:50:50.000I'm willing to bet he'd fire Fauci right away.
00:51:09.000Trump also just a couple of days ago said it's hard to criticize Biden now because Biden congratulated him on his promotion of the vaccine.
00:51:48.000I've learned from the mistakes I've made.
00:51:50.000And he's just going to say, I want the documents released, release them now.
00:51:55.000He's going to, so he's going to walk with these people.
00:51:58.000He's going to say, I'm going to follow you to the, to the archives, and I'm going to watch you publicly release these documents right now under my orders as president.
00:52:05.000Cause when he would do all this stuff last time, they'd be like, you got it.
00:52:46.000I mean, I've often said I'd meet all these people who would say I voted for Trump because I liked his policies, but man, I wish the guy would shut up.
00:52:52.000But I will also add, I think there's going to be a lot of people in 2023, a lot of people have suffered under Joe Biden and the Democrats in the past year.
00:53:34.000Because I was just going to bring up DeSantis again, because I think DeSantis is going to give Trump a run for his money.
00:53:40.000I think a lot of people like DeSantis a lot more than they like Trump.
00:53:43.000I think there's a lot of broken promises with Trump.
00:53:45.000I think there's also a lot of clear corruption, a lot of promotion of Big Pharma.
00:53:49.000When on the other hand you have the Santas that has essentially stopped the narrative in its tracks when it was Donald Trump that said it's only going to be 2 weeks to slow the spread it was Donald Trump that it instituted warp speed it was Donald Trump that you know said here's here Fauci control the country do whatever you want.
00:54:07.000When DeSantis did completely the utter opposite of that and I think when it comes to that revenge that aspect is going to be hindered by the fact that Donald Trump caused a lot of the pain that the American people are suffering with that the Democrats continued by continuing his policies while DeSantis was one of the only people standing in the way of it and saying no.
00:54:26.000I'm not going to implement your mandates.
00:54:27.000I'm not going to implement your lockdowns, your restrictions, your bullcrap on my people, because I believe in personal freedom and personal liberty.
00:54:34.000And because he made that stand, I do believe he's going to win out against Donald Trump in the larger public opinion.
00:54:41.000I love Florida, so I am biased here from my perspective, and DeSantis isn't perfect.
00:54:46.000There's also some things you could criticize him on, but by and large, you see Florida leading the way against the lockdowns, the mandates.
00:54:54.000Texas was following very closely what Florida was doing, but Florida was the first one that initiated A lot of these major moves that absolutely broke this COVID narrative, that actually broke a lot of this nonsense and stopped it in its tracks.
00:55:06.000And that's why I do believe DeSantis and Trump are fighting already.
00:56:52.000Even Joe Biden, I would imagine, if someone came to him and said, I am the great fairy, Joe Biden, and I will cure everyone of their ailments, but Trump will get the credit.
00:57:00.000I still think Biden would be like... Biden's trash too.
00:57:03.000Anyone that's going to be like, let their ego get in front of public safety is dangerous.
00:57:08.000The idea of the cartoon villain, I don't believe is real for the most part.
00:57:13.000You know, it's like, I'd rather everyone suffer.
00:58:39.000That there was going to be an attempt to disqualify members of Congress and maybe even the president himself.
00:58:46.000There's now an organization out of North Carolina filing a lawsuit saying that Madison Cawthorn is no longer, he's disqualified from running for re-election because he incited insurrection against the United States.
00:59:10.000I think they sat on these charges because they wanted to make sure sedition was fresh in the minds of the American public in an election year.
00:59:22.000Therefore, anyone who participated in the rally, anyone who helped organize or in any way was associated with it, you have committed incited insurrection and you can't hold office.
01:00:28.000And they can't figure out how to deal with that guy.
01:00:30.000For those unfamiliar, this is the guy.
01:00:32.000He's seen in a bunch of videos saying he's telling everyone to go into the Capitol.
01:00:35.000And people are wondering why he wasn't criminally charged.
01:00:37.000And now it's at the forefront, and they have no answer.
01:00:40.000There was people calling him feds the day before the event because he was calling for violence and destruction of government property before the event.
01:00:47.000During the event, he's on camera calling for property destruction and storming the Capitol.
01:01:07.000I find Glenn Greenwald's analysis of this pretty compelling, that it would be quite typical for the government to do this kind of thing.
01:01:18.000But I think in terms of the politics of it, I think it's pretty weak sauce going into the election.
01:01:23.000Going back to my earlier point, if you're looking at empty grocery shelves and you can't afford to feed your family, and maybe you've been forced out of your job because of a vaccine mandate, all the drama about January 6th, and I was super critical of anyone that participated in January 6th.
01:01:42.000And I wouldn't apologize for anybody that was either committing violence or being near it.
01:02:03.000And this looks fundamentally political.
01:02:06.000And they're going to play their cards and see what happens.
01:02:09.000If they succeed, or I gotta be honest, if they even try these lawsuits to disqualify members of Congress, and they already are, so I don't even know what I'm saying at this point, but I just think you're asking for serious trouble in this country.
01:02:22.000Because what happens when you get a judge who says, we agree, you get some lefty establishment judge, and they say, we hear your case, we agree, Madison Cawthorne, you can't run for re-election.
01:02:32.000What do you think the right's going to do?
01:02:33.000Do you think they're going to be like, oh, well, gee, I guess we can't have our representative anymore.
01:02:37.000Or do you think they're going to be like, screw you, no.
01:02:39.000And then what happens when you start getting congressional districts where there's no agreement on what the proper ballots are because certain names have been removed from only some of them.
01:02:47.000What happens when you get one precinct saying you can't disqualify him?
01:03:16.000The courts have ruled he can't run, they're cheating, they're breaking the law, and the right's gonna say your ridiculous lawsuit is meritless and the judge is wrong, and there's gonna be no agreement on what the law actually is supposed to be at that point.
01:03:29.000Yeah, I think that's a credible theory to definitely kind of look at and examine here, especially with the Justice Department announcing a new task force for domestic terrorism.
01:03:39.000The DHS also made some very alarming statements yesterday about domestic bomb production.
01:03:44.000So, you know, it might not be enough politically, but that doesn't mean that there's something later down the line that still might happen that they have planned to work in bigger political favor.
01:03:57.000So, you know, there's some people talking about the possibility of false flag domestic, you know, attacks here in the United States to blame the right.
01:04:03.000And the way things are moving, they're really moving in a very negative way, where we are only becoming more divided, people are having more hatred for their fellow American, and the ingredients that are causing that, the corporate media, the social media, I don't see those ingredients going away.
01:04:20.000I see them only being added more into this larger stirring pot of these globalist elites that want us all fighting and attacking each other.
01:04:27.000But you don't have to eat out of that stew pot.
01:04:29.000That's the key, is to get away from that propaganda.
01:04:32.000And away from the hatred, and away from the fear, and away from a lot of the bullcrap.
01:04:37.000But if there's going to be larger staged events that create, you know, victims and casualties, it's going to be very hard for a lot of people to ignore those kind of larger events.
01:04:48.000How do you help people keep an open eyeball for that kind of stuff?
01:05:21.000And what we've tried to do is leave all of that aside.
01:05:26.000And, you know, the original aspiration for us at Free the People was to be sort of transpartisan.
01:05:32.000Try to find common American values that could bring people together on various subjects and see if we couldn't just get along on something.
01:05:41.000And I think the first step of that is like, if you go into this saying, you know what, I'm team red, I'm red-pilled, those other guys are monsters.
01:05:52.000So I've tried to spend some time talking to my progressive opponents on some of these issues.
01:06:00.000I gotta say that lockdowns have kind of blown that up because now we all really hate each other and it's very difficult to find that common ground.
01:06:09.000But again, the future, the anti-authoritarian future, we're going to find people across the political spectrum that are fed up with all this crap and want to do something different.
01:06:19.000We talk about the left and the right, and then when I look at the political compass, there's actually an up and a down, where the authoritarians, you can have a leftist authoritarian or a rightist authoritarian, but then when you go down, you get to the individualism.
01:06:30.000And so you do see leftist individualists and rightist individualists.
01:06:34.000I think the left overwhelmingly is authoritarian.
01:06:38.000There are very few people among Democrats who are anti-authoritarian.
01:06:41.000I'm wondering if the line on this quad graph isn't Straight lines, but actually, as it goes to the left, it naturally tends up towards authoritarianism, and as it goes towards the right, it tends down towards individualism.
01:06:53.000There is a such thing as left libertarianism, but it's substantially less populated because it's a very weird political space.
01:07:01.000When it comes to the modern version of the left, what we have in the United States today with the Democratic Party and leftist activists is, because they're overwhelmingly collectivist, Even the Democratic activists or progressives or DSA types who don't like Biden would support him due to tribalism and collectivism.
01:07:21.000Then you have the run-of-the-mill lay Democratic voter who doesn't know anything but adheres to the authority out of ignorance and fear.
01:07:29.000So it's not that they're authoritarian, these people, in the sense that they're, you know, like, we want you to bend the knee and do as you're told.
01:07:37.000It's that they don't know anything, don't want to know anything and say, I'm going to do what I'm told by Brian Stelter and Jake Tapper.
01:07:42.000Authoritarian follower, as opposed to an authoritarian leader.
01:07:46.000Yeah, I mean, I figure there's an audience.
01:07:47.000I mean, there's people hard set in their ways, and maybe it has something to do with age where you just stop thinking about the world anymore.
01:07:54.000You are who you are, and you've accepted that.
01:07:57.000But I think there's an opportunity, particularly with young people.
01:08:00.000I'm trying to be an optimist here, so hang out with me for just a second.
01:08:04.000I think a lot of young people are searching for something else and I think there is a small L libertarian solution where we can sort of accommodate our different cultural differences and you can be conservative, you can be liberal, you can be all these different things.
01:08:19.000As long as we agree to solve problems on the local level and live our lives however we see fit as long as you don't hurt people or take their stuff.
01:08:27.000And that ultimately is the libertarian solution.
01:08:30.000I'm selling t-shirts too tonight, sorry.
01:08:32.000It says don't hurt people and don't take their stuff.
01:08:36.000It's a simple message that I wish more people would just understand and that's literally a lot of people's philosophies that if they instituted would create such a better world.
01:08:49.000I don't think that's a political solution.
01:08:51.000You're talking about changing hearts and minds and talking about a little bit of humility when we deal with other people who may be confused about using the power of state to force other people to be vaccinated.
01:09:04.000For people whose minds are still open, we should talk to them.
01:09:39.000It's interesting to me that many of the people we're trying to convince have this view that this show is conservative when we rarely have ever talked about abortion and taxes and traditional family values or anything like that.
01:09:52.000Yet somehow, That's what we're accused of being.
01:09:56.000That's what they say when our discussions are almost always libertarian.
01:09:58.000You could argue, I think, that opposing VAX mandates is conservative because it's like this weird liberal thing where they want to change the whole way the system's built.
01:10:06.000And we're like, yo, natural immunity is a thing.
01:10:16.000Traditional conservatism is, and feel free to chime in after I say this, my interpretation is upholding traditional values that help preserve a system that has led to success.
01:10:27.000That would be protect the system, defend the status quo.
01:10:32.000And then progressivism, or leftism, is to- the way it's- we've usually described it as, the left pulls towards progress, and the right holds them back a little bit, and they slowly move towards, you know, new ways of doing things, but not too much too fast.
01:10:45.000And what we've got now is the chain has snapped, the right is stumbling back a little bit, only a little bit, and the left has just taken off running like, you know, the dog getting loose on the leash.
01:10:55.000So I don't see anything that we're talking about being conservative because we're actually fairly reformist.
01:11:01.000We're complaining about the establishment.
01:11:02.000We're actually revolutionary when we call for the end of the Federal Reserve.
01:11:14.000And they would be like, it's a conservative show.
01:11:16.000I'm like, bro, you guys are defending massive multinational corporations.
01:11:19.000How we convince those people, I honestly, We can tell the truth, we can be honest, but short of using their tactics and manipulation, I don't see how you change people's minds.
01:11:33.000I don't think we follow the authoritarian's paradigm, because their whole role is to manipulate and scare people into falling in line, and our model is more like Joe Rogan.
01:11:55.000And I know it sounds a little hippy-dippy, but we're not gonna out-authoritarian the authoritarians.
01:12:00.000We gotta figure out a totally different way to engage people.
01:12:04.000And I think people that have gone through this two years of lockdown torture and all the psychological and personal damage we've done, particularly to children, I think people might be hungry for an alternative.
01:12:17.000And we're that revolution, but I think our tactics are different.
01:12:21.000We respect people enough not to tell them what to think.
01:12:23.000Well, so this is the funny thing, right?
01:12:49.000We want dramatic, revolutionary change in this country.
01:12:52.000And the quote-unquote left, people like Hassan or Vosh, are saying, the massive multinational corporations are correct and we should be forced to buy their products by the status quo establishment politicians.
01:13:01.000And I'm like, that makes them right-wing!
01:13:03.000It doesn't matter if your economic position is nationalization of a corporation.
01:13:09.000You are, on the historical scale, based on the original definition, the right wing defending aristocracy and we're here complaining about it.
01:13:18.000They tweeted today that in Greece the government is fining people $113 per month because they didn't take a product from a private criminal multinational organization.
01:13:29.000They're also bragging that in Austria the government is fining people stealing $4,000 for them because they didn't take a product from a big pharma agency.
01:13:37.000This is also going to be happening in Quebec and ... Occupy Democrats are asking retreat if you want this to ... happen in the United States which is absolutely ridiculous ... they're on the side of literally forcing you through ... the threat of stealing your money or having guys show up ... with guns and use violence against you if you don't buy a product.
01:14:38.000I was concerned about that tweet because they're going to take your advice.
01:14:42.000So, uh, I often tweet garbled nonsense, but I have no problem explaining why I do it.
01:14:50.000By tweeting the opposite in a slightly silly way, the average person of intelligence understands my point, and you can't take the tweet and assert context to it.
01:15:02.000So, Luke posted a meme, and I'm like, I'm looking at this meme, and it's like, you know, questioning, you know, vaccines and things like that.
01:15:10.000Or it's the science and the corporations around it.
01:15:12.000And I'm like if you post that they might say you're posting medical misinformation and ban you so I posted it
01:15:17.000Very in a very silly way criticizing it and pushing something that was absurd
01:15:22.000So what are they gonna do they gonna ban me for saying it was crazy?
01:15:25.000Yeah Even though most people understand my point my response to
01:15:29.000this tweet was Replying to it with a gif of Mussolini giving a speech
01:15:36.000That's also another way, just mocking these people because their ideas are absurd.
01:15:40.000And when we really break it down, what they're doing, they're calling for violent men with guns to come to people and steal their money for not taking a product.
01:15:50.000That's essentially what it boils down to.
01:15:51.000So let me just stress this point right now.
01:15:55.000And I'm going to say it again to make sure everyone hears it, because I really want the Breadtubers to hear this.
01:16:01.000If we are talking about the French Revolution, and the right was, as you described, we'd say the aristocracy, and the left was the revolutionary, we sit before you today as humble civil libertarians, and big L libertarians in a certain sense, saying the establishment politicians are corrupt and broken, the massive multinational corporations are criminal, and they are stripping the value and the rights of the working class in this country, We believe that there needs to be dramatic revolutionary change in this country, like ending the Federal Reserve.
01:16:32.000And not just ending the Fed, we would repeal it and then take control of the finances with our Congress.
01:16:36.000Restoring the rights of the working class, ending the corrupt aristocracy and elitism in this nation, and letting good working class people have the fruits of their labor from the labor they produce.
01:16:49.000And many of you, Many of you sit there and say it is good that Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden, corrupt neocon corporatists, neolib corporatists, are mandating the American people be forced to buy a product from a massive multinational corporation.
01:17:04.000You are the right, in your own argument, and we are the left.
01:17:07.000We are to the left of you, and we're not even leftists.
01:17:10.000Now, if you want to talk about economic scale, when left means economic policy collectivism, or right is laissez-faire, then we'll have an argument for sure.
01:17:17.000But if you want to play that game of left and right as tribes, y'all on BreadTube are actually right-wing for defending the government and the corporations as they do this.
01:17:31.000I think that's that's why you got to not get too hung up on the definitions of the words rightist and leftist, because really, yeah, these you can call yourself whatever you want.
01:17:39.000But if you're supporting multinational corporate takeover, that's authoritarian as hell.
01:17:45.000Criminal entities with no liability for their product that's forced and extorted on the general public.
01:17:50.000That's a whole new level of craziness that has a criminal past of buying off regulators, politicians, and doctors for pure profit motive that they had to pay billions of dollars in fines to.
01:18:03.000Pfizer is like in the top 10 largest criminal cases in the world.
01:18:09.000Pfizer's like number five or six or something.
01:18:11.000For buying off regulators, scientists, and politicians.
01:18:14.000You know, in practice, it's quite often difficult to see the difference between fascist regimes and communist regimes.
01:18:21.000And one, technically, is government ownership of the means of production.
01:18:24.000The other is government control of the means of production.
01:18:27.000But I've done a pretty deep dive on this.
01:18:29.000And if you look at Pol Pot, the mass murder in Cambodia, And you look at many of his policies, not just economics, but civil liberties and general disdain for life.
01:18:42.000It's fairly difficult to tell the difference between him and Adolf Hitler.
01:18:45.000And yet we're taught that these guys are in opposite ends of the political spectrum.
01:18:50.000No, they're both murderous authoritarians.
01:18:58.000I get the metaphor of putting us on the bottom, but as you move up my political scale, you get to all the things that are voluntary.
01:19:08.000Cooperation and choice and informed consent.
01:19:13.000And all these crazy radical ideas that neither political establishment will tolerate today.
01:19:18.000And to me, it goes back to your manifesto that you laid out there.
01:19:21.000That's where we can find reasonable people, and it almost feels like it's in the middle, even though it's outside of the current structure altogether.
01:19:29.000It's the people that spin around all through it and are willing to engage and understand all of it that seem like they're in the middle.
01:19:36.000It's happening so fast that it just looks like it's right there.
01:19:48.000No, I think the people who watch tend to be fairly moderate.
01:19:53.000You know, nobody's an extremist in any sense.
01:19:58.000Maybe a few people pop in here and there.
01:20:00.000We get some leftists who just hate us and they're very authoritarian, you know, tanky types.
01:20:04.000But for the most part, you know, the people I meet on the street, regular people, and they're just, you know, the response I usually get from people is they're like, I don't know, man.
01:20:11.000I just want to be able to live, to feed my family, to get by.
01:20:24.000But you got a lot of people who are like, we want to go crazy, we want to go to war, we want dramatic revolutionary change by any means necessary.
01:20:31.000And, you know, the one thing I find fascinating, because I've talked to a lot of Antifa people about this, I said, isn't the use of violence against someone inherently authoritarian?
01:20:41.000And they just, they never have a real answer for it.
01:20:44.000You might get these sophists who are like, actually, the use of violence isn't because, and I'm like, what about beating someone until they agree with you is not authoritarian?
01:20:53.000Because isn't authoritarianism strict adherence to the authority or governance or politics based upon adherence to the authority?
01:21:00.000And the use of violence is authoritarian to force them to do it, whereas libertarian would be like sitting down over a cup of coffee and having a discussion and an argument and trying to convince them.
01:21:11.000Well, defensive violence, I guess, could be a libertarian thing.
01:21:14.000In, you know, we have this thing called the non-aggression principle that if you can't mess with somebody else, but if they mess with you, they threaten your life or your property, you have a right to defend yourself.
01:21:25.000But back to your point, I think this is super important.
01:21:32.000They're quite proud of it, and they think that violent change is the only way to sort of transform society, break the system, and all of these communist dictators tried this stuff, and they didn't give one damn about human life.
01:21:47.000Our strategy has to be fundamentally different.
01:21:51.000Ours has to be non-violent, because violence is the ultimate violation of liberties and people's humanity.
01:21:59.000So I think there's power in nonviolence.
01:22:02.000And I'm a student of Martin Luther King and Gandhi, and I've studied these nonviolent movements, the Solidarity Movement.
01:22:11.000Who would have thought that a bunch of guys could gather and beat this all-powerful Soviet regime with nonviolence?
01:22:38.000It was a movement of union workers and people coming together throughout the factories that they were mandated to work at and saying, no, we're going to protest.
01:22:47.000We're not going to work for the Soviet Empire.
01:22:50.000And because of those strikes and that kind of collective bargaining power, it was one of the reasons out of many why the Soviet Empire kind of crumbled.
01:23:00.000Which my family was a part of in Gdansk, Poland.
01:23:04.000And a little bit of trivia for you guys.
01:23:06.000For those that are fans of the game Civilization, in the video game Civilization 2, which is a very early version of it, you're creating a country.
01:23:15.000When you have civil unrest, it actually shows an image from the Solidarity movement.
01:23:19.000They're holding the big sign and protesting, and that's the symbol used in the game of unrest in your city.
01:23:25.000A lot of history there, and it shows you that protests throughout history sometimes do work.
01:23:31.000Now there's a lot of pessimists that say protests never work, but I think it's worth a try, and I definitely agree with you.
01:23:37.000We should always strive to be nonviolent.
01:23:40.000We should also have the ability to defend ourselves if the need comes, but prioritize that nonviolence over anything else because the state has mastered the tool of anger, of hatred, and of violence in such a way that there's no using it in any way that it doesn't benefit them directly.
01:25:50.000I think it's an important discussion that needs to be had in this country.
01:25:54.000As far as this fake news, I don't really have anything else to say other than that.
01:25:58.000I'm sure both people that want people to show up and people that want to demonize this thing are going to be spreading a lot of information.
01:26:07.000I, for one, would love to see Americans stand up and rise up, and I've been disappointed That we haven't seen the same sort of massive marches.
01:26:18.000We're all on Twitter and we're watching these marches all across Europe, in Australia, everywhere.
01:26:23.000And there's been less of it in the United States.
01:26:26.000And I think we're due for a nice grassroots uprising.
01:26:31.000But I would again say, I'm gonna beat this dead horse.
01:29:41.000That's why it's important to live stream.
01:29:43.000I'm going to be probably live streaming if I could get good cell phone signal and videotaping everything, making sure that of course we get everything on the record.
01:29:50.000Cause the only thing really preventing and stopping something is being fully transparent, open, uh, and honest about everything.
01:29:56.000And the best way to do that is to live stream.
01:29:57.000So I'm going to be live streaming on youtube.com.
01:30:03.000At a protest and I saw someone at something like this trying to act a fool or get violent I would stop them I would and and we saw that there was a lot of this some of this went on these really cool videos There was a guy who was ripping bricks off out of the sidewalk Oh, yeah, and then activists left-wing activists grabbed him and dragged him to the police and they were like get him out of here We do not want this and then the cops even let one of the guys go like he got caught up in it And they were like, okay, you're cool and they arrested the guy who was vandalizing stuff that's what you need to see and Now I don't know what people should do for legal reasons.
01:30:32.000So talk to the organizers, but don't let people do any of that crazy stuff.
01:30:52.000So we dealt with this, and this is before smartphones were such a thing, but I was a tea party organizer and we organized that massive march in 2009 on the mall.
01:31:02.000And, you know, no arrests, no violence.
01:31:26.000And we don't know if the guy's a bad actor from our side or their side, but if the behavior's wrong, If they were doing something violent or something racist, we would just surround them and they would just leave.
01:32:04.000Some people are estimating 100,000, but I think those are overinflated numbers.
01:32:09.000You usually see numbers overinflated, but at the same time we haven't seen a protest here in the United States for a very long time.
01:32:16.000Compare that to what's been happening in France, in Austria, in Australia, in Germany, in the United Kingdom.
01:32:22.000There have been massive protests with tens of thousands of people.
01:32:25.000Instances even hundreds of thousands of people coming to the streets saying enough is enough and I think just being able to see that kind of larger representation does have some kind of larger political change and does put into people's minds that they're not alone and I think that's that's important and I think peaceful peaceful rallying and peaceful protests are extremely important and You know who knows what's gonna happen, but?
01:32:50.000I'm gonna be there to see it's winter.
01:32:52.000We got a snowstorm coming this weekend and I'm not.
01:32:55.000I don't want to be Debbie Downer, but I'm not confident.
01:33:25.000It says it's going to keep raining until 2pm.
01:33:29.000I don't think it's good to drive 2 hours and then just be like, well it was raining and we knew it was raining, and then waste the day driving 2 hours back.
01:33:37.000As it turns out, the rain stopped where Luke ended up going hiking, and he was fine.
01:33:43.000The only thing that really happened was I wasn't willing to take the risk, and Luke was, and it benefited Luke.
01:34:04.000While we were going to go hiking this weekend, There is a report that a major winter storm is coming, so what we said was, how about we go snowboarding or skiing instead?
01:34:14.000So we still go up to the mountain, we still get the views, and Luke said no.
01:34:21.000You want to go like next weekend and... Well yeah, because it's a couple hour drive through the snow.
01:34:27.000We have to stay the night, but Luke you work Sundays and then...
01:34:31.000You got me thinking though that if someone does decide to co-op the weather system and want to give us the fake news, that's a good way because people trust that implicitly.
01:34:45.000I've never heard anyone question the weather.
01:34:48.000Even when, uh, just this past weekend, they said it was going to rain, and then it didn't rain.
01:34:53.000I'm telling you, there's no reason to believe the news, Tim.
01:34:56.000There was actually a meteorologist who pointed this out.
01:34:58.000He said, when they were predicting this big winter storm, he was like, the weather system is in the Pacific Ocean.
01:35:06.000There's no way you can accurately predict what it's going to do in the next two weeks.
01:35:12.000So, I guess it is still, for the most part, coming true in a lot of ways.
01:35:17.000It's not the same as the projection from two weeks ago, obviously, but we're supposed to get hit with a big winter storm.
01:35:21.000We're supposed to get very, very heavy snowfall out here.
01:35:24.000So, that is bad news for us, because fortunately it's happening over the weekend, but it usually means that it's harder to get out here, so we'll have to figure that stuff out.
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01:36:59.000Uh, we're going to have a passport control.
01:37:01.000It's, it's just going to be our security booth, but like, you know, we're going to have the guy act like, you know, welcome to Free Damastan and you know.
01:37:08.000It's not really, but... I want to set up a bar, like a tap bar with a bunch of different beers, but instead of beer, it's a bunch of different soaps.
01:38:35.000Well, this is what we fear, because we don't want that.
01:38:38.000Don't let yourself get radicalized, man.
01:38:40.000But I mean, if the US does break apart, then China just takes over.
01:38:46.000So I like this, you know, Bringing back the factories for the working class and strengthening this country and maintaining peace and everything.
01:38:55.000But if we start fighting each other, China is going to be like, all right, time for global communism.
01:39:02.000So as the economist, I have a theory about what all of these very talented health care workers who are about to get fired can do.
01:39:09.000You're gonna create a very rationed system within any organization that takes Medicare or Medicaid, but there's this thing called concierge medicine.
01:39:19.000There's this alternative form of medicine, and I think entrepreneurs are gonna scoop these people up, and they're gonna make more money, and they're going to practice medicine with a modicum of freedom.
01:39:31.000So don't get depressed, don't get desperate.
01:40:03.000One of the things I've been looking at too is all these things that aren't actually insurance, like MediShare.
01:40:09.000And Tom Woods has one that he advertises that I always forget the name of.
01:40:13.000But these are not technically insurance companies, but they do offer coverage and they help you do things like they'll help you like crowdsource your bills, which I think is fantastic.
01:40:20.000So hopefully some of these people who are fired for refusing to be vaccinated can go over and work over there with them.
01:40:24.000Something that's coming too with 3D printing is medicine.
01:40:28.000A lot of it is like artificial intelligence building out medicines that are tailor fit for your body so that you'll get a unique form of medicine that is specific for you instead of these top-down mandates of everyone take the same drug.
01:42:07.000We absolutely should not allow them to sweep that story under the rug.
01:42:11.000I loved all the memes, though, where it showed the guy walking and his head was an SUV, and it would show, like, the news headline where it says, SUV crashes into people, as if it was just, like, the machine that did it.
01:42:20.000I liked the jokes, too, where it was like, Decepticon invades Earth, you know, SUV crash into people, like, it wasn't the person who did it.
01:42:41.000But I just, I do think with the, Canada backed down on their vax mandate for, I don't know if it was Canada, but the US, the Canada border had a vax mandate.
01:42:51.000They backed down on this because truckers were going to revolt.
01:42:53.000We still could end up seeing, you know, vax mandates at some point, but with the Supreme Court striking this down, I think things might actually improve a little bit.
01:43:06.000But if they, if the Supreme Court said, okay, VEX mandate, this country would collapse overnight.
01:43:11.000So I think the Supreme Court had no choice.
01:43:14.000You're a very wealthy country, and the good news about being us is that the system, the economy, and everybody that's actually bringing food to your table, it mostly still works.
01:43:25.000And that's not true in every country, but it's true in ours.
01:43:28.000So I don't expect to see food riots anytime soon, in large part because of what you just said.
01:43:36.000Alright, Brett Stubbs says, Just happy the homie Matt is on Timcast.
01:43:46.000Oh, so we created a Gary Johnson super PAC ad that featured a comedian that dressed up like dead Abe Lincoln, who was the first successful third party candidate.
01:43:58.000And we claim, and I think it's mostly true, that that was the most viral ad of 2016.
01:44:05.000Trump was super viral, Hillary spent a stupid amount of money trying to get people excited about her, and dead Abe Lincoln killed it.
01:46:17.000I know what's happening and what's coming.
01:46:18.000When you look at the way that they're inflating the economy and what they did before the Great Depression.
01:46:24.000In fact, check out a documentary on the Great Depression if you want to look at what it looked like leading up to that six weeks of fail or whatever it was.
01:46:32.000Tim, will you commit to talk to my wife about this, because I still live on Capitol Hill, and we desperately need to get out of there.
01:46:38.000Yeah, man, I mean, we're not that far away.
01:46:41.000Yeah, like, it's closer than I thought.
01:46:43.000Yeah, so we got 50 acres, and it's only an hour and a half from D.C.
01:46:47.000It's actually really close, and that could be a problem for us, but it's far enough away to where we've got freedom and space and private land, it's unrestricted, and we can still get access to the airport for guests to come in and out, so that's kind of the compromise.
01:47:56.000Glizzy Water says, from yesterday's show, I became an owner-operator trucker to not have to get the vax, and it was weird you talked about truckers as I got off the exit to Harper's Ferry today.
01:50:53.000I don't think I can manifest my dreams in my dream world.
01:51:01.000Sometimes they're in English, sometimes they're in Polish, which is weird, but predominantly it's Polish.
01:51:06.000When I'm talking to somebody or someone's talking to me at home, I speak with my family in Polish.
01:51:10.000I was born in Poland, I was raised in Poland, so obviously there's a lot of Polish It's still in my mind, especially when I'm trying to express ideas in such a quick, unscripted way.
01:51:22.000Sometimes my signals get jumbled, but it happens.
01:51:25.000One of the great things about English is you can build new words.
01:51:27.000It's built to do that, like justifaction.
01:53:12.000I'm gonna say Closer to the Heart because I'm trying to be an optimist, but at the end of 2112, which is referenced, the good guy kills himself because the state has destroyed his life.
01:53:52.000Yeah, and we've referenced him before.
01:53:54.000I certainly think we disagree on a lot of things, but I think he is absolutely anti-establishment.
01:53:57.000He does seem not crazy, which I appreciate.
01:54:01.000I know that we have been smeared together in the past by the Southern Poverty Law Center wrote a smear against me him and some other people and for me it was like they passively just smeared me he was the focus of the article but they'd like include my name or whatever that issue an apology it's like a badge of honor when the SPLC attacks you they got me a couple years ago too Yeah.
01:54:49.000Jay Farr says, I know they probably hate each other, and it may sound crazy, but the smart move is a Trump-DeSantis in 24 for Trump's final term, then DeSantis and someone else in 28 and 32 for a MAGA America first three-peat.
01:55:08.000Yeah, that would be the rational thing to do.
01:55:10.000We talked about this a few weeks ago, but we said because of the ego there, especially with Trump firing the first shots against DeSantis, I do not believe that will happen because DeSantis, I believe, would get too much attention and Donald Trump would be jealous of that, but Donald Trump also wants someone who's completely different.
01:55:28.000Jordan says, have you reached out to Jimmy Dore?
01:55:30.000someone like a Pence who's a big statist to counter to kind of counterbalance him.
01:55:35.000But I think the two are gonna be fighting it's going to get crazy and
01:55:39.000it's gonna it's going to get wild between these two.
01:55:42.000Jordan says have you reached out to Jimmy Dore would love to see him on the show.
01:55:55.000I will say this too, like the challenge of trying to get people who have their own shows on our show is that we're asking them not to do their show to do our show.
01:56:44.000I mean, the left in this country is overwhelmingly authoritarian, but so is the Communist Party, and if we fight, they're going to end up winning.
01:56:53.000Start prioritizing and voting with your dollar.
01:56:55.000I mean, what a lot of these multinational corporations do is essentially giving China exactly what they need to grow their empire, and it wouldn't be possible if it wasn't for our consumerism.
01:57:06.000So that's another aspect that is definitely worth considering here, in my opinion.
01:57:09.000But God, how do you get people to stop consuming?
01:57:13.000Well, you know, bringing back jobs and factories to the United States could be a start.
01:57:17.000Incentivizing, you know, programs that don't just focus on slave labor would be another one.
01:57:56.000And then like the camera goes up is a house and it goes up the window and there's a chicken just in the window like looking out and it was just really funny.
01:58:08.000And I can see the chicken city and it's really funny because, uh, like I was working the other day and then like I'm like reading some article when all of a sudden I hear like a bagok and I look over and one of the chickens apparently had grabbed a cricket or something and it was being chased in circles by all the other chickens.
01:58:24.000Because they want to steal the chicken, the cricket from its mouth and I was watching them all run in circles for like a minute and I'm just like, man these things are crazy.
01:59:36.000And then we could do it, and we could shoot it a little bit earlier, and... Well, we could do a segment, and then we could do the show, and then be like, here's the interview we did with Dr. Paul.
01:59:45.000We could probably shoot it in his house.
01:59:49.000We could start the show with it, and then it would be maybe like a half an hour, or however long he was able to go, because he's an older guy.
01:59:55.000And then it would just jump to the regular show, and we'd finish off Love.
01:59:59.000We went to him, and last time I talked to him, Ron won't get on a plane as long as he has to wear a mask.
02:00:45.000It's really crazy to me how they're able to vilify Rand Paul when he just, you know, he made the Breonna Taylor no-knock warrant bill and the left attacked him.
02:00:55.000Like, what is wrong with these people?
02:00:57.000Like, Rand Paul, people should just be like, I can imagine people being like, well, I don't completely agree with him, but he's a good dude.
02:02:59.000And this was a great conversation, even though it got pretty testy in the comment section, especially with some of the Trump criticism there.
02:03:06.000Hey, you know, I appreciate the criticism.
02:03:10.000And if you have any evidence or counterpoints, I'm always open to hearing your point of views.
02:03:16.000And I'll say this too, like, this is an eclectic show, man.
02:03:41.000I'm told that it's not available at this very moment, but at freezypeople.org we have a shop, and we have all sorts of cool things, and you can get our Fouchism gear as well, and it's very cool stuff.
02:03:54.000We have an artist on staff who's a very accomplished comic book artist, and he does all of our stuff.
02:04:16.000So if you guys want that shirt, just not necessarily with the yellow, which I know is a libertarian color, you can still get it on the site, freethepeople.org.