Ivana Trump has died, and we're here to talk about it. Plus, AOC says she's investigating the cops who held the door open for her on January 6th, and Elon Musk says the Republican Party has been radicalized. And we're joined by Vanessa Santos, CEO of Red Renegade PR, to talk all about it!
00:00:45.000you ladies and gentlemen welcome to Tim cast IRL
00:01:07.000I want to start this show with my heartfelt condolences to the Trump family.
00:01:11.000We got news not that long ago that Ivana Trump had passed away, cardiac arrest, and obviously she's the mother of many of the Trump children.
00:01:21.000There's some pretty brutal videos, seeing that the Trump kids are very devastated by this.
00:01:26.000I just want to say everyone here wishes them well and we give our condolences and we might just get into the story later on because it is it's very important but you know sad stuff as we start the show but we do have big news in the Trump family outside of the the sadder news Donald Trump gave an interview to, I think it was New York Mag, where he essentially announced he is running.
00:01:48.000In every conceivable way that he could, he said he was running.
00:01:51.000Without literally saying he was running.
00:02:33.000She said she wants an investigation, a deep dive into these cops who seem to have been involved, and I'm like, yes please.
00:02:39.000Unfortunately, the news about AOC is completely being distracted from because Alex Stein yelled that she had a big booty.
00:02:45.000So that's the news in the cycle, and it's so annoying, but of course they're gonna try and distract from something very important AOC said.
00:03:01.000We also got our good friend Malcolm Nance saying that the Republican Party's been radicalized and we may have to fight our neighbors.
00:03:10.000The rhetoric's getting really crazy, so we're gonna get into all that.
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00:04:04.000I started my firm to be an aggressive, doesn't-take-no-for-an-answer PR firm that fights wokeism wherever we find it.
00:04:13.000I make sure our clients have a voice and can be heard.
00:04:17.000Too often over the years I've seen so many people get censored or canceled because they don't follow the accepted view and I have worked hard to fight against that.
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00:04:42.000So here you are now today on the show.
00:04:44.000I was telling Lydia earlier, I decided after I had my two boys since COVID hit, that I wanted to be a little more vocal myself with the culture war, because I'm not sure I'm too pleased with the direction the country is going.
00:05:23.000Uh, and I, it sounds like you were giving the Trump school of announcing earlier with your, with your comment about saying that you have a big announcement coming.
00:05:30.000See, everyone's announcing that they've got an announcement coming.
00:05:44.000Josh19zmapped on Twitter asked me to work graphene into the convo tonight, but Josh, I am announcing that I will not be working graphene hexagonally lattice carbon into the conversation, unfortunately.
00:06:17.000Last night I was thinking, we talked about God last night a lot, and I was thinking like, you know, I don't, I can't speak for God, obviously no one has that authority really, but it feels like it doesn't want us to just make money.
00:07:32.000And I mean, it is relatively early for a president to make a bold statement like this.
00:07:36.000I know he didn't formally declare, but even with Hillary, the meme was she's running over and over again because she really waited as long as possible to even suggest she would run.
00:07:46.000What are the legal ramifications for announcing for him?
00:07:49.000You can't take money from certain people, or you can only take a certain amount of money from certain groups and people.
00:07:55.000It's so honorable the way Hillary Clinton did it, right?
00:08:00.000Because she made sure to get those big fat Goldman Sachs paychecks before she announced he was running.
00:08:12.000I feel like these laws really incentivize people to kind of hedge and hedge until, like Hillary Clinton did, she got a bunch of money and then she announced she was running.
00:08:20.000It seems very shady and it seems like we're making it easier for them to do that and I don't think we should make it easier for politicians to be dishonest.
00:08:51.000His informal announcement that he's decided he's going to run.
00:08:55.000And that he wants to announce soon, and people may drop out, and he goes to Olivia Nuzzi of, I think it's New York Magazine, and the first thing they do, let me see if we can, we'll pull up the story, the whole first paragraph is just disparaging Trump and smearing him with every possible negative story imaginable.
00:09:41.000Here's the first paragraph of Donald Trump's interview with New York Magazine.
00:09:44.000Donald Trump was impeached twice. Lost the 2020 election by 7,052,770 votes.
00:09:49.000Is entangled in investigations by federal prosecutors over the Capitol insurrection
00:09:51.000and over mishandling of classified witness documents and over election interference in
00:09:54.000the District of Columbia Attorney General over financial fraud of the Presidential Inaugural
00:09:56.000Committee and the Manhattan District of Attorney over financial fraud of the Trump Organization
00:09:59.000and the New York State Attorney General over financial fraud of the Trump Organization and
00:10:02.000the Westchester County District Attorney over financial fraud of the Trump Organization and
00:10:05.000the Fulton County, Georgia District Attorney over criminal election interference in Georgia
00:10:08.000and the Securities and Exchange Commission over rules violation and plans to take his social
00:10:11.000media company public through a SPAC and the House Select Committee on January 6th whose hearings are
00:10:15.000the runaway TV ratings into the summer. Yet on Monday, July 11th, he was in a fantastic mood.
00:10:19.000Why would you give an interview to someone who's going to introduce you and your ideas in that way?
00:10:25.000You know, I actually think that giving it to Olivia proves his priorities, which is that, you know, he doesn't really care to run for America.
00:10:36.000He cares to pick up where he left off, fighting with reporters and getting attention.
00:10:40.000I think it's a huge distraction from what we really need from a presidential candidate right now.
00:10:47.000It's unfortunate to see him doing this right out the gate.
00:11:25.000It has to be somebody who's just going to give you the news, you know?
00:11:29.000Is there any way to grab analytics on this article that was written about his announcement that he's considering announcing for president?
00:11:38.000Because if he did it on a show like this, he'd have 1.6 million views overnight, and it would be his face and his voice, which is what gets you elected, not text.
00:12:00.000Olivia Nuzzi interacts... 92% of the news she interacts with is left-leaning.
00:12:07.000Look at that tiny little morsel of right wing in there, which is probably like 4% or something.
00:12:13.000And Donald Trump decided that he's going to go to the people who smear him, who defame him, who attacked him, who propped up the lies, who lied about Kyle Rittenhouse, who lied in defense of Jussie Smollett, who lie about him, and then first chance they get when he sits down with this woman is she opens the entire paragraph smearing him in every imaginable way.
00:12:32.000Because I want to make sure this point is clear.
00:12:34.000Just because People who hate Trump are trying to dig up dirt on him, opposition research, or investigate him, doesn't mean Trump did something wrong.
00:12:43.000We are innocent until proven guilty in this country, and people who are trying to smear Trump, we get it, they're going after him.
00:12:49.000But she makes it the entire introduction.
00:12:51.000I wish that he just went to, I mean, name any, any independent journalist.
00:14:23.000We've been we've been having like this inside joke about how people complain about when they do Rogan they have to go to the bathroom so bad when they're done that like Rogan has like he loves it like he loves the fact these people just like can't go to the bathroom when they're recording.
00:14:35.000But you but you can go to the bathroom on Joe's show.
00:14:38.000But they were just picturing like him being like oh we're not done yet we're not done yet he's just playing like waterfalls in the background.
00:15:34.000I thought that's where you were going, but I wasn't sure.
00:15:37.000Could you imagine watching Rogan with Biden?
00:15:40.000And then it like, Joe says something like, but come on, man, like, you know, Joe Rogan says, Come on, you're talking about the mass printing of money.
00:15:48.000It's got to have some kind of inflationary effect.
00:15:50.000And then it cuts to Joe and Joe's like, Oh, no.
00:16:35.000We just mentioned the other day, Trump needs to announce ASAP because it puts Biden in the worst possible position.
00:16:43.000If Biden drops out due to his health or whatever after Trump runs, you know, or Trump announces, then he's like, oh, Joe Biden ran away scared.
00:16:52.000The Democrats know they're not going to win.
00:17:04.000Or what if Joe bows out due to, or the Democrats pull him out?
00:17:09.000Like either way, if Trump announces and then Biden is out for some reason, the Democrats are going to lose significant support, if they have any at all.
00:17:18.000Do you think that's still an issue here with this polarized climate as we have right now, that people are still voting for who they think is going to win?
00:17:29.000There was an article in Axios talking about the realignment, about how the Republican Party has become more diverse, racially diverse, and more working class, and the Democrats have become whiter and wealthier.
00:17:47.000He gained votes in the black community, the Latino community, along the Rio Grande Valley.
00:17:51.000And so the Democrats are becoming the elite white—they're the elite white liberals.
00:17:56.000So their concerns are not what regular people are concerned with.
00:18:00.000No, I mean, just looking at the big issues that they're trying to talk about, they're so obsessed with abortion and, you know, and pronouns and calling Well, people's right pronoun.
00:18:14.000And then meanwhile, real Americans are trying to get to work.
00:19:14.000But it's the weirdest thing where he like, he reaches his hand out and then he just like looks at it like, what is this thing attached to my body?
00:19:22.000If it was Hunter, it'd be because he'd been up for three days at a time and he wasn't seeing things.
00:19:26.000But it really does, and speech repeat the line, it gets harder and harder to ignore for regular people.
00:19:33.000And I do think that the average ordinary citizen, maybe the reason Trump has not kept his going the way that things are is because he feels like any deviation from things will mix up the momentum of letting them screw up what they're doing.
00:20:05.000The last time this happened, PolitiFact said, President Joe Biden was confused, turned around and shook hands with thin air after a speech.
00:20:54.000Last night I was praying for this man's mental health, just his health in general.
00:20:58.000As much as I understand the, he's bad at his job, I want him to fail, so let's just harp on him until he's gone, but a sick-minded president can ruin the world.
00:21:07.000So we need, maybe not, we need to support him in some way, acknowledging that he doesn't, shouldn't be the president.
00:21:14.000Ian, a sick-minded president could ruin the world?
00:23:02.000Well, so look, Trump informally announces he's running, but this poll comes out, the New York Times, Times-Siena poll saying that 44 to 41 Biden wins.
00:23:12.000There's obviously other polls saying it's complete bunk.
00:23:14.000There's another poll I was reading today that said Trump wins 43 to 41.
00:23:16.000I just can't imagine And this could be hubris that Joe Biden could beat Trump in a rematch.
00:23:27.000It's one thing when Biden shows up, says, I'm going to run against Trump, and then all the media does is say that COVID is Trump's fault, and then says nothing about Joe Biden.
00:24:47.000You're going to be like, okay, we're doomed, right?
00:24:49.000Like, how are we, how are we going to effectively fix this thing?
00:24:52.000If that guy is the one who's supposed to be like, we have to argue with each other over how to save this ship.
00:24:58.000Yeah, so on the question of the economy, I actually saw, and this was very unsettling to me because I've been harping about these shootings that have been happening in red states and then in blue states with and without gun control.
00:25:08.000And I said, I think that this is going to mean the Democrats pull alongside the Republicans over the economy.
00:25:14.000I think guns are going to become more important than the economy.
00:25:17.000And sure enough, it's showing that this is bringing them up alongside the Republicans as November is coming up, just like I thought it would happen.
00:25:25.000So I don't know what's going to happen, obviously, but the fact that they have so well publicized these two different attacks, whether you have gun control or not, whether you have the armed good guy or not, whether you have red flag laws or not, you still have the same effect.
00:25:39.000I think that this has been an incredibly effective strategy for them to push the concept of guns to the forefront of the American public's mind.
00:25:47.000Let me pull up this real quick just to drive it home.
00:25:49.000President Trump job approval from RealClearPolitics.
00:26:53.000After Joe Biden surrendered, failed, and I mean, this is one of the reasons I believe that Joe Biden is not the puppet people think he is.
00:27:04.000He's more like, I'm not saying he's in charge.
00:27:08.000I'm saying he sort of is, and everyone's kind of confused, but he's still being given instruction by his aides who are trying to help him right like you can have, you can hire someone to help you who tells you what to do, but you're still in charge right.
00:27:20.000Afghanistan was such a complete and total failure that made no sense.
00:28:28.000I don't know what, if he could have done it better, probably could have done it better.
00:28:31.000Listening to Kurt Schlichter last night explain, like, what a president could do to take control of his military command, it sounds not that complicated if you know what to do.
00:28:38.000But these guys didn't know what to do.
00:30:10.000So it's funny you brought up The Apprentice.
00:30:12.000I was, when I got pregnant, I got super obsessed with The Housewives and all The Housewives have appeared on The Apprentice and a ton of them have.
00:30:20.000And I wanted to go back and watch these Apprentice.
00:30:57.000It was like George Carlin, in a sense, where he's talking about mainstream political news and issues, and he was just joking about everything, and people are laughing and clapping, and I'm like, this man knows how to entertain.
00:31:35.000Somebody said that what he should have done is built his own like Oval Office White House set and then like had a YouTube channel after he lost the election where he just second guesses and pretends and does all the stuff that they should do instead and just do that on YouTube.
00:32:01.000Like, I think the, like, uh, on one hand it's the, the lack of humility is what makes him a capable, not capable leader, but like you have to be strong to lead in that sense.
00:32:10.000But a lot of people don't like the fact that you're very, uh, that you don't have the ability to laugh at yourself or you don't have the ability to take a joke at your own expense.
00:32:18.000But Trump does, and it doesn't matter.
00:32:20.000If people are in a cult, they're in a cult.
00:32:22.000It's like, Brandon Strzok, his story is really, really powerful.
00:32:27.000How he thought Trump was all of these things, and then he watched a video that proved everything he thought wrong, and it was physically painful for him, but he was able to break out of it.
00:32:36.000And now he's like one of the biggest Trump supporters.
00:32:38.000I don't know as of right now, but he became one of them.
00:32:41.000But we were talking about January 6th.
00:32:43.000I want to jump to the story, and I want to give a shout out right away to Tim Kast's good friend, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
00:32:52.000She said, Remember how there was tons of footage and evidence of officers and others inside on January 6th supporting insurrectionists, but then everyone decided it was too politically risky to investigate thoroughly, so they brushed under the rug and now we still have no idea who or what is safe?
00:34:05.000I am thoroughly annoyed by the guy who just keeps yelling Antifa over and over again.
00:34:09.000As someone who's been more critical of Antifa than many people who've spoken out and criticized them from the get-go, Starting with Occupy Wall Street when we were on the ground me and my friends and the black bloc extremists were attacking us And then eventually they adopted the name Antifa.
00:34:23.000They were just the black bloc extremists the same people that we know their names many of them and AOC is Enthusiastically saying there were cops who opened the doors to From the inside.
00:34:38.000She never says the cops opened the door.
00:34:40.000She says there were cops inside, people on the inside opened the doors.
00:34:43.000She doesn't make the direct statement that it was cops opening the door.
00:34:47.000The insinuation is that there was law enforcement inside.
00:34:52.000She's saying she doesn't feel safe because she doesn't know what happened to those people who were inside, whoever they were.
00:35:23.000Yeah, there one guy got let out of solitary, I don't know if he was in solitary, let out of jail because the judge said, well, a police officer waved you in, you're not liable for trespassing or whatever, they let him go.
00:35:33.000And she was talking about the safety of those in Congress, right?
00:35:37.000What did she have to say about the Supreme Court justices and expanded security?
00:35:41.000She said, poor him or something like that.
00:36:22.000I don't think it's as big a deal as you think it is.
00:36:24.000One of the things we said back on January 6th was we mocked the people who tried breaking their way in, saying, why do you think that standing in a building grants you political power?
00:36:36.000So even if they're in one building, it's not going to disrupt, to a great degree at least, the US government.
00:36:45.000I'm more intrigued by the fact that she was like, what, are we just gonna throw more money at this problem and hope that solves it?
00:36:49.000I'm like, you vote for big spending all the time, what are you talking about?
00:36:52.000You think this works for everything else, but not this, I guess.
00:36:55.000I'm looking at a priorities list, right?
00:36:56.000You got AOC has been hypocritical in terms of what happened with the violent riots there, what happened with the riots in the rest of the country.
00:38:24.000I play a lot of video games, Crusader Kings.
00:38:27.000If you can get your enemy committing a petty crime, you can throw him in prison and strip him of all his land and all his titles and erase him from history.
00:39:23.000No, I was just, I think it might have been you guys last night on the show with Libby and Kurt, but somebody raised the question, you know, why is there only select footage being released?
00:40:10.000I think she's the kind of mind that's like, if we get evidence that the cops let people in and incited this, then we've got innocent people in prison.
00:42:27.000With Joe Biden hitting record low approval ratings, down to like 37.7, I've said it before, the opportunity there, two-thirds of this country doesn't like the guy?
00:43:22.000Like, I want to see him honest about his feelings for Kamala Harris.
00:43:26.000Well, I want to know what happened to Kamala, because it seems like when she was running against him, she was... Chad Felix Green, I follow him on Twitter, I love his tweets, he's very smart, but he tweeted the other day this point, basically, which was, you know, we saw a woman who was so well-spoken, she was, you know, She would cut your throat, you know, and now her sentences don't even make sense.
00:44:38.000So when you live a lie, people become crazy, nervous wrecks.
00:44:42.000I mean, that's, to me, seems like the only explanation.
00:44:45.000I mean, but, you know, if they don't run Biden, I mean, what is she doing for her political future at this point if she can't even make a sentence?
00:46:52.000We must together, work together, to see where we are, where we are headed, where we are going, and our vision for where we should be, but also see it as a moment to, yes, together, address the challenges and to work on the opportunities that are presented by this moment.
00:47:54.000We all watched the television coverage just yesterday.
00:47:57.000That's on top of everything else that we know and don't know yet based on what we've just been able to see, and because we've seen it or not doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
00:50:24.000I'm just imagining like Malcolm Nance like walks out of his house and there's like a guy in like cargo, khaki cargo shorts with like a tucked in polo shirt.
00:50:40.000So let me, I want to read this quote, but I really don't want to.
00:50:43.000He said, you can call what is happening an insurgency.
00:50:46.000We have heard that term in foreign wars recently in Iraq.
00:50:49.000Today we, he says to talk about why you apply the term insurgency to what you see here as a persistent ongoing threat of domestic extremists.
00:50:56.000Oh, that was, that was Zerlina asking him.
00:51:01.000I was reading their own intelligence about what they intended to do.
00:51:03.000It was pretty clear at that point that they were going to try to either overthrow the government or they were going to settle in for a long-term series of destabilizing actions using a political party, the Republican Party, as their political base and then using violence, threat of violent extremism, as a way to manifest change in the street.
00:51:31.000The end result of a non-adversarial, just smear campaign, show trial, it is similar to the things we've seen in other countries when people are trying to destabilize and destroy a government.
00:51:43.000It makes me think of the burning of the Reichstag and what Hitler did.
00:51:46.000Well, we don't know that Hitler burned it down.
00:52:39.000He's saying he needs to fight his neighbors.
00:52:42.000Yo, if I were to have told you six years ago that MSNBC personality would go on TV and say, we may have to fight our neighbors, would you have believed me?
00:52:54.000Then if I said, the year is 2015, let's go seven years, you know, nobody believes Trump's gonna win.
00:53:01.000And you go back in time and you go to any random person and say, seven years from now, several presidential administration officials, former officials will have been arrested by the incoming administration.
00:53:11.000Prominent MSNBC personalities will be talking about civil war and one of them will say we may have to be fighting our neighbors.
00:53:18.000A man walking down the street in Portland will be shot twice in the chest by a man with a communist tattoo on his neck.
00:53:39.000It's like most of my friends, if they're not politically partisan, the ones that I don't agree with, but we can at least agree to disagree, the average person just doesn't know that stuff is going on.
00:53:47.000If it's not being, you talked about Donald Trump report, you know, going to these sites that hate him to get his message out there.
00:54:34.000Yeah, we had this, uh, Tim tweeted this Plato quote about, uh, if you don't get involved in politics, the politics will get involved with you.
00:54:41.000Well, he says the penalty for not being involved is to be ruled by evil.
00:54:44.000And then you juxtapose that with Dan Tone, uh, who said, I'd rather have been a poor fisherman than to have meddled in the politics of man.
00:54:50.000What I started thinking is Dan Tone was cynical.
00:54:52.000He was angry and violent the entire time.
00:55:33.000I think that's a personal reflection on the part of Dan Tone.
00:55:36.000I think it was a sense of deep regret and frustration that he did what he did.
00:55:40.000I don't know if he ever realized or said that it was something that needed to be done, but at the end of the day, even if you regret doing something, sometimes it is far better to have done that thing than to have not done it.
00:55:51.000Man, no better example of living by the sword and dying by the sword, or dying by the sword, than Robespierre.
00:57:20.000So I understand Nance's frustration and fear.
00:57:23.000I get that he is afraid, but right now you need to be communicating with your neighbors and creating community with your neighbors.
00:57:28.000If you run out of food, you need to make sure that your neighborhood is secure together and that you all have enough food to eat.
00:57:33.000You need to import the food, make sure the roads are clear, have community watch.
00:57:39.000I think Malcolm Nance saying this is a sure sign that he hasn't talked to another actual person outside his bubble in a very long time.
00:57:47.000There are a lot of normal people still out there who just want to take their kids to school without masks, you know, argue about that with other people.
00:57:54.000They're not terrorists, they're working, they're trying to provide their family with a living.
00:57:57.000They don't have time to engage with local school board who has time, right?
00:58:21.000And it's just a matter of seeing who comes up as the original Irish Republicans in this story and starts carrying out acts of violence to effect change.
00:58:32.000So we are well on our way to a multi-year campaign that we are already two years into, into this campaign, where we may have to fight them.
00:58:39.000The they in my title and the they in my title is those who want to kill Americans are your neighbors.
00:59:16.000That's not what we're going through right now.
00:59:18.000We're suffering a bank default, basically.
00:59:22.000The people on the left think that it's a white supremacist 1619 government and they, look, he who controls the past controls the future, is that the saying?
01:00:39.000I used to be one of the people that gave people the benefit of the doubt and thought, you know, maybe they just don't know what they're talking about.
01:00:47.000Yeah, so if that's the case, then it's intentional.
01:00:50.000He's intentionally trying to manipulate the facts, the data, history to cause people to be violent.
01:00:56.000This is the point I was making with my op-ed in Newsweek.
01:00:59.000Jamie Raskin, who represents a district like two miles away from us, who represents some of the employees here at Timcast, was spreading disinformation to radicalize people because they want violence.
01:01:13.000Yeah, so his article reads more like a wish than a warning.
01:01:16.000It sounds like this is exactly what he wants.
01:01:37.000A big part of it is because if you get a totalitarian government, could be your neighbors or whatever, you need to be able to defend yourself.
01:01:44.000I understand the sentiment, but there's like a...
01:01:48.000A point where preparing and living in fear no longer is defensive, but becomes offensive.
01:01:55.000And we got to make sure that people that spew rhetoric like this do not incite people to attack their neighbors preemptively.
01:02:04.000So, Vanessa, I'm really curious what your thoughts on this are as a suburban mother of young children.
01:02:08.000What do you think of this idea that someone's actively trying to sow discord between you and the people who literally live next door to you?
01:02:15.000Yeah, I mean, I already feel outnumbered by my community because I lean conservative, obviously, and I'm smack in the middle of DC, a suburban DC.
01:02:48.000I don't I really don't want my neighbors to know my politics.
01:02:52.000I don't I don't want to have the conversation.
01:02:54.000I've got a nice big Jeep that I don't want messed with.
01:02:58.000This is why the cult forms, because these people, they think.
01:03:04.000It makes me not want to engage, and that's what's scary.
01:03:07.000What I'm saying is, if they don't ever see it, they assume it's fringe or doesn't exist.
01:03:13.000And there's probably a bunch of people in your neighborhood who do agree with you, but the people who are in the cult
01:03:19.000think everyone thinks the same way they do because you don't want to put signs up in your yard.
01:03:24.000If I did not have two very small children...
01:03:28.000I would be a little more fearless about it, but I don't, I mean, I don't want, I don't want my stuff smashed because somebody sees, you know, maybe if I was supporting Trump, I don't want them seeing a Trump sticker.
01:03:42.000I suppose the issue then is if you think you can keep your head down and they won't come and smash your stuff, you're wrong.
01:03:48.000And by your, your unwillingness to actually stand up for yourself is only making the problem worse.
01:03:52.000No, I mean, that's, that's a, I mean, you know, and I work with, I work with some different groups who are recruiting parents to run for school board.
01:04:02.000And that's, you know, this is the big conversation that they're having, too, which is, you know, how, like, are you going to be too scared to get up in your community to really, like, help kind of take back the education system?
01:04:18.000As a suburban mom, it is scary because you have to worry about your kids and how your kids are going to fit in and how people are going to treat your children.
01:04:28.000And that's why I also think that my demographic is the hardest to figure out where we're at politically because most women, I think, feel my way.
01:04:39.000It's like, we're going to vote how we vote, but we don't want to talk about it.
01:04:43.000Why would you want your kids hanging out with Their kids.
01:04:46.000They're going to be grooming your kids.
01:04:47.000This is a conversation that I've had with my husband, too, about leaving the area and going to a red state.
01:04:53.000Even Eastern West Virginia, I think it's funny to say Eastern West Virginia, the schools have been infiltrated by the woke.
01:05:02.000Because when they run for school board, they don't put any affiliation and they know they have to lie.
01:05:08.000When the Republicans were questioning those witnesses the other day and they refused to condemn infanticide, It's because they know if they admitted their position, people would recoil in horror.
01:05:20.000So what happens is in these West Virginian schools, you have wokeness, critical race theory, gender ideology, and they tell the kids, hide it from your parents.
01:05:29.000You've got to go deeper into West Virginia to get away from it.
01:05:31.000And there's been a big backlash where locals finally started figuring out what was going on with their kids, and now people are pulling their kids out.
01:05:40.000So I come from a single mom home and, you know, we used to kind of joke, I mean, she was able to make it to all my soccer games, she made it to all my sporting events, but she worked her butt off all the time to make sure that my sister and I were supported.
01:05:55.000And, you know, there was one time I was busting her balls, and it's probably not even fair for me to have done this looking back now, but, you know, she couldn't name my math teacher one year.
01:06:05.000And how many I mean, no, these parents who work, these parents who don't have the capacity to engage with school boards, all this stuff, I mean, this, you know, critical race theory and the gender ideology teachings, it's happening and parents have no idea.
01:06:20.000And I actually think it's worse with these more rural schools without so many eyes on them because they have staff that aren't really being checked.
01:06:33.000Like, you know, a teacher can probably get away with more because you know, the parents aren't as tuned in, the school board's
01:07:20.000People that want a virtue signal with signs in their yard, you're welcome to, but no one is expected to do that.
01:07:26.000Well, that's why the joke in my neighborhood is that the people who are the ones, you know, flying American flags, which I do, that's our way of saying.
01:07:36.000It's more subtle, but I mean, I don't think it's really even that subtle.
01:07:40.000I think everyone in the neighborhood thinks that.
01:07:42.000I told Seamus Coghlan to put a rainbow behind him, a rainbow flag behind him on the show, and he said, I think that would send the wrong message.
01:07:50.000Because the rainbow is God's covenant to Noah that he would not flood the earth again.
01:07:54.000And so I said, why would you not fly your own sign out of fear that people would get the wrong idea instead of just telling people what the right idea is and standing behind symbols that were historically used by Christians?
01:08:07.000And he said, well, okay, maybe if it's like an actual rainbow and it says something on it, we made that.
01:08:13.000So right now, you have people who are saying, I will not express my support for what I believe in, other than to subtly and secretly do it in a way like flying the American flag.
01:08:22.000Okay, well, I will say that for a lot of conservatives, politics is not our religion.
01:08:30.000And the way the left views politics, it is their religion.
01:08:34.000And so You know, I want to be judged by my Christian faith.
01:08:37.000I want to be judged by, you know, just not who I vote for.
01:08:42.000And for me to brand my home, my car, whatever, with these campaign signs, with these campaign stickers, it's basically asking for this engagement with somebody who doesn't see the fight the same way I do.
01:09:06.000I have never, like in the last few elections, there has not been a candidate who I do fully support, who I do want to fly a flag for, hang up a sign for, because I'm not wholly behind that person.
01:09:20.000And so I guess that's another answer to your question.
01:09:24.000When the left views politics as religion and I don't, it takes away my will to fight because it's like I'm fighting with a crazy person who does not have even the same value system as I do.
01:09:37.000But engaging these people is extremely important.
01:10:14.000Because I think, you know, try and survive.
01:10:18.000But now, seeing what's going on in this country and in this world with the woke, psychotic, you know, nonsense, and watching Star Trek The Next Generation, how many lights are there?
01:11:04.000So if I were to put a mirror image of the swastika behind me, Uh, that's not gonna put forth a good message, even though I know it's a symbol of peace.
01:11:14.000I was in Austin, and there's an antique shop, it's a famous antique shop, and they got swastikas all over the joint.
01:11:19.000They're the real ones, not the Nazi one, they're the inverted Hindu ones.
01:11:23.000And I asked the guy about it, and he said, he's like, oh yeah, I got it on my keychain, we've got mugs here, and he's like, in the early 1900s, these were all over everyone's houses, they were good luck symbols.
01:11:34.000And then I was like, you're not worried about people seeing that?
01:11:40.000Like, I think that's, that's bold to be willing to be like, I assert what this means and, you know, do something about it.
01:11:49.000I think there's a time and a place to utilize symbology for your cause, because if the temperature was right politically or mentally... Symbolism.
01:12:59.000Before we move on, I did want to say, I know it's different when you ask a mom what she wants to do about it than when you ask a dad what he's going to do about it.
01:13:05.000Because moms take a very different approach than dads can and should.
01:13:09.000And I also wanted to say that I think this is a deeply cultural problem because, like Ian was saying, It does require two incomes to survive, like very much where we are, especially.
01:13:19.000I know the cost of living isn't cheap.
01:13:21.000Both parents have to be working to some extent, and I understand it's hard.
01:13:25.000But at the same time, you could flip it on its head and be that person who's so nice, so friendly, and so involved in the community that when they find out that you support someone like, I don't know, Youngkin, Well, that's kind of always my goal.
01:13:37.000You know, I always kind of find that I have a very, very close-knit group of friends.
01:13:52.000And it's almost like I have this personal moment where I come out to them and I get to kind of break it to them, like, look, I know you respect me as a person, as a mom, as a friend.
01:14:03.000And it's sad, but it feels like in this area, because everybody is so hyperpolitical, you know, you have to kind of earn that trust first as somebody who leans conservative before you break it to them.
01:14:18.000I got an idea. What you do is you hold a local community gathering and you say it's going to be
01:14:24.000a big event for pride or something. When people show up with my puppy dog flag, what they're
01:14:29.000going to see is you get a venue with a bunch of TVs and on all the TVs are like, you know,
01:14:34.000rainbow flags. And then once everyone's inside, you say, everyone gather around for a group photo.
01:14:40.000And then you press a button, all the TVs turn to Trump 2024.
01:14:42.000And then a bunch of Trump flags unfurl and you start taking pictures.
01:15:00.000All these woke people show up and they're all standing there smiling for a photo that says Trump 2024 just across the walls, banners, and then you post it online, they're gonna be like, I swear that's not what I was there for!
01:15:09.000They're gonna be like, you're lying, you're a Trump supporter.
01:15:12.000It would just cause so much discord because the left likes eating each other, destroying themselves, that it would eviscerate.
01:15:19.000There was a guy who was going to all the protests in 2020 and putting Trump stickers on the back of all their cars.
01:15:26.000Someone got attacked for that, I think.
01:15:28.000There was a video of a woman that threw a brick through her window because someone put a Trump sticker on her car at the protest or something like that.
01:16:30.000You put the signs up in your yard, and then you get a couple of your friends, maybe your husband and his friends, and they just, you know, lie out and wait.
01:16:38.000And then when someone comes by with the brick, they just walk up very, very politely and just grab the brick and say, no.
01:18:00.000He's like, everybody should wear a ghillie suit.
01:18:02.000I do want to point out that, like, you mentioned the part about the American flags.
01:18:05.000I remember during the election, Rogan O'Hanley, the DC Drano, he pointed out, he said, is it weird that lately, just seeing an American flag, I automatically assume that they're Republican.
01:18:15.000I said, eh, because I'm not a Republican, and I know I have friends who are.
01:18:20.000My last boss at my last job was a, you know, blue dog Democrat, believed in owning firearms, but was so anti-Trump, it was hard to believe.
01:18:27.000I said, I don't think that's necessarily true.
01:18:29.000that somebody's just because they support the American flag or that that means that they're
01:18:33.000Republican. But I definitely think that it does mean a lot to say that they probably aren't far,
01:18:38.000far left because they're the ones who every time you have to post something for Fourth of July,
01:18:42.000there's that one dude who has to come into your page and be like, why would you post that hate
01:18:45.000symbol of a flag in your thing? They're just there to ruin everything. Well, I think that's kind of
01:18:49.000what the the issue is, is that everything is such a slippery slope now into the culture wars.
01:18:56.000And it's like, okay, well, I want to support, you know, Black Lives Matter.
01:19:01.000And then that turns into now I can't, you know, stand for the anthem.
01:20:29.000And then I'm like, this bill legalizes if the mother is in any way at risk, you can terminate the life of a baby that can survive on its own.
01:20:47.000Well, it's like 100% agenda-setting theory.
01:20:49.000I mean, this is, it's totally, the mainstream media, the media knows that that is not what people should hear to support them, so they just don't cover it and then people don't know.
01:21:03.000This is one of those things where I didn't get as much pushback on my social media of people talking about rovery weight as much as I thought I would but there was a couple of people who I was actually surprised Talking about it in a sense.
01:21:14.000I was gonna bring up, you know third tries like Northam tried to introduce this and Ages ago.
01:21:19.000And then you get into what you're talking about.
01:21:21.000Then you have to have this long conversation with someone.
01:21:40.000You can't just say what your position is.
01:21:43.000You have to first explain to them why they're completely misled and confused.
01:21:47.000And frankly, it's a lot of work and it's a really good way to lose friends.
01:21:50.000And I think that's a big part of the problem is people just don't have the time of day.
01:21:54.000And doing that communication digitally doesn't help because I know you've talked about a lot.
01:21:59.000You know, the concept of conversing with someone in person is a lot different than the concept of trying to talk to someone online where there's no context, where there's no tone of voice.
01:22:07.000Yeah, well no, even people you like, you generally like or get along with, your tone of voice can't be discerned, your body language can't be discerned, and having such a serious discussion about a topic that important, when you've got 20 minutes free on your lunch break, isn't viable.
01:22:23.000For instance, me and Elijah Schaefer, he's like one of my best, I think he's one of my best, I love the guy, but when we're in text, man do we oil and water.
01:22:31.000It is not, we do not have the same style, and I'm like, I'm just not gonna like, Because I know he's joking, but it doesn't seem like that in text.
01:22:37.000So I don't, I'm just not messing with that crap.
01:22:42.000I knew he'd hog, you know, in real life.
01:22:45.000No, but that feeling is the worst when you, when you, when you get a text and, and, and, you know, you can feel like the hair stand up on the back of your neck, you know, it's just ugly territory that it's going.
01:22:57.000And yeah, I mean, but, but who, who has the time to meet with these people and have like, let's, Let's go out to coffee and talk politics.
01:23:03.000That sounds like something my dad wants to do that I don't want to do.
01:23:05.000I think if within a week of your life you're able to help one person open up their mind, that's enough.
01:23:12.000If everyone can do that, that's enough.
01:23:15.000Well, and that's the that's why it's local elections and school board elections and stuff are so important.
01:23:19.000And, you know, it's so important to make time and get involved in everything.
01:23:23.000But, you know, with with Republicans turning into morphing into the ones who are the working party, they just don't have time.
01:23:34.000It's hard to represent your politics when you are working your butt off and trying to support your family.
01:23:40.000Yeah, when the people that you've entrusted with the power bankrupt you or your surroundings, and then are like, sorry, we're just going to take your kid for you and make sure that it has, like, we'll make sure that you get money from us now, you're on our dime.
01:23:58.000That's very destructive for a government to do that to its citizens.
01:24:02.000I can't blame particularly the governors and the representatives and things like that because a lot of it's ignorance but, oh man.
01:24:13.000You know, schools are supposed to be for kids and now the schools are places for, you know, adults to live out their fantasies of what they want people to believe and it's just, it's gotten really twisted.
01:24:26.000Well, these teachers have never grown up themselves.
01:26:22.000You need to teach boys to make stuff and mess stuff up and fight constructively with each other, like fencing or wrestling.
01:26:28.000There'd be a lot less Adderall prescribed too if they made school more efficiently for boys.
01:26:32.000Well, look, man, if you're a company that produces some kind of drug for kids, you're going to be marketing as much as possible that kids need drugs.
01:26:52.000They create drugs and treatments that do well.
01:26:54.000And then you actually had, there's a story that, I can't remember what it was, but it was like a pharmaceutical exec who argued, or I think it was a bank, Yeah.
01:27:01.000They argued, perhaps curing things is not a viable option for our long-term revenue goals.
01:27:07.000Because then people don't buy your product anymore. So you need people to stay on the drug to keep
01:27:14.000giving you money. You end up with commercials. I love these commercials where it's like,
01:27:19.000is Florbana right for you? Ask your doctor. And I'm like, I don't even know what the drug does.
01:27:32.000So there's people running through like trees and wilderness and it's like what does that have to do with the drugs?
01:27:37.000It is free market suicide when big companies that make, say, a pharmaceutical like Adderall or something to that effect say, we need to sell more of it.
01:27:46.000Let's lobby for a change in the diagnostic criteria for what children are experiencing to get more kids on our product and then get more prescriptions and more insurance companies to pay for it.
01:27:56.000Now I got a whole bunch of kids on a whole bunch of crazy cocktails of SSRIs and uppers and downers and lefters and writers and whatever else.
01:28:04.000Yeah, especially after all the school closures and the mask mandates and all the kids missing out on major life events.
01:30:47.000I always loved it when Gordon Ramsay would, like, find some awful restaurant, but they had really good food.
01:30:53.000And it was always awesome to see him be excited for the food being good, and then lament the bad management.
01:30:59.000It's like, he's a chef who's coming in to make your food better, but he's like, why are you taking orders this way?
01:31:06.000How come no one's answering the phone?
01:31:07.000And I'm like, sounds like a business manager consultant.
01:31:10.000But I mean, he runs successful restaurants too.
01:31:12.000It was always great, too, when you'd find a small hole in the wall that was perfect in every way, and you'd be like, wow, I wish more people knew about this place.
01:35:42.000Waffle Sensei says, if everyone accepted the risk of standing up and speaking out, then there would be no risk for standing up and speaking out.
01:38:04.000So, you just kind of, you know, This sounds really mean, but I think the same logic really applies to plus-size models being integrated in all of the online stores and stuff now.
01:38:21.000Because women are getting fatter and fatter, and so they're trying to say, like, hey, look at this lady wearing clothes that you could fit in.
01:38:28.000Yes, but I think the issue with that is a woman doesn't want to see an outfit on her.
01:38:35.000They want to see it on a pretty person so they can imagine it looks like that on them.
01:39:22.000I wrote an article about this for The Federalist a few years ago, and you know, it's funny.
01:39:28.000I actually talked about my first experience going into Victoria's Secret when I was like, you know, 16 or whatever with my girlfriends from high school, and it felt like going to like the cool girls like Closet.
01:39:44.000You know, it just it felt like I was entering a new just place I've never been and, and, you know, the thing about Those Victoria's Secret angels, which got canceled because they made people feel bad for being so gorgeous, Adriana Lima.
01:40:01.000You know, when you wear Victoria's Secret clothes, you want to put it on.
01:40:04.000You want to imagine yourself as an angel.
01:40:16.000And I'm sorry, but not even a woman who's trying to be... who knows maybe she's not Adriana Lima wants to put on lingerie and look like Megan Rapinoe.
01:40:44.000So it's a show that we're putting together where we just, we get a store and then we have, we just change what the store is as gag stores all the time just to like, to see the reactions of people who are coming in like confused.
01:41:10.000I feel like you can't really satirize reality because I went to the perfume store the other day and I saw this huge, fat model and this bright, sunny looking perfume and I was like, I don't want to smell like that model smells.
01:41:21.000That sounds so mean because I understand that we are, you know, supposed to be body positive, but there's just a fine line between being body positive and then like having Lizzo on the cover of like, what was it, Shape?
01:41:36.000I called someone moribundly obese, and then someone tried correcting me.
01:41:41.000They're like, oh, you mean morbidly obese?
01:41:51.000When you're that large, like your risk of heart disease is much higher than other people's and it's just a health fact and we should stop pretending.
01:42:01.000And it was funny because somebody was like, Tim, we know you were fat because after we watch your clips, we have an outro song promoting the show.
01:42:09.000And it's like from a few months ago, so I'm like bigger.
01:42:11.000So my thing is like, you can cut out the sugar, you can get better, you can be healthy, you can go for a walk.
01:43:38.000So I, when I, when I record my segments, sometimes there'll be like some important thing I have to do.
01:43:42.000And I'm like, I got to get this done quick, but I don't realize that a segment is 30 minutes long, regardless of how fast I'm talking.
01:43:48.000So I'll end up cramming in like an hour's worth of content because I'll just be like reading the news and just going really fast.
01:43:55.000And then I look at the timer and I'm like, uh, Talking fast isn't making this any different.
01:44:00.000I should chill out and make this listenable.
01:44:03.000That's been a very big part for me is trying to learn how to slow down because I'm a naturally fast talker as well.
01:44:09.000Like when we're doing the segments and I'm moving the conversation along, I get that natural urge to kind of pick up and move along because I don't like the idea of dead air.
01:44:46.000And there was an early funny thing that says, Busta Rhymes is the fastest rapper in the world, and then it cuts in and says, the guy from the pharmaceutical commercials has entered the chat.
01:45:14.000DIDN'T THAT ALREADY PASS A LONG TIME AGO?
01:45:16.000That was one of the videos that you did early on that I when I realized how much my friends hated politics that weren't their own was pointing that out to somebody and I got gaslit super hard and I'm like, I pointed out that bill and he goes, Well, I don't doubt that you read something like that.
01:46:01.000But if you're any kind of company that in any way has to do anything in other states, so because we're digital media, we can take articles and contract people who might be in California.
01:46:35.000You can, you can have a talk with, like, the labor board, and I've worked in California, and I've, I've been on the other, other side of that.
01:46:40.000They'll, they'll tell you whatever you, like, if you're the employee and you're like, I have a problem, they'll go, we don't care.
01:46:44.000We're gonna give you whatever you want, and we're gonna strip it from the business.
01:48:05.000So we have to get Trump for the show somehow.
01:48:07.000We've talked to a bunch of people in those circles and maybe we'll go to New Jersey, but if we do, I will ask Trump to review like three memes.
01:48:40.000Yeah, but we need, like, Trump to be sitting watching TV, and then we get to watch his reaction to Fox News.
01:48:46.000Think about how amazing that show would be.
01:48:48.000If he held, like, watch parties on Amazon Prime, where he just watches, like, the West Wing.
01:48:53.000No, no, like, him watching Tucker Carlson, and Tucker says something, and then he starts commenting on it, and just going off would be the coolest thing ever.
01:48:59.000If Trump did what I did, like grab news articles and then turn the cameras are talking about it.
01:49:05.000He'd have 50 million viewers in a week.
01:49:08.000He would be getting five, 10 million views per clip.
01:49:11.000It would be, it would be just amazing.
01:49:15.000Alright, DaPyromaniac says Trump and DeSantis need to team up.
01:49:19.000Have Trump charge in like a bull like in 2016, let DeSantis wrangle with Congress, and train him up on the appropriate foreign policy decisions, and prime him for a run in 2028 with a Trump endorsement.
01:51:36.000No, actually, that was the first thing I thought.
01:51:39.000It sounds like they're trying to write an endearing speech that's really easy to digest, and they're just bad at it, but her delivery is too off to actually buy that.
01:53:03.000I wave to them when I take my kid to daycare, when I come home.
01:53:07.000Sometimes we waved each other over the fences, but you know, I just moved in my neighborhood kind of recently and COVID has made it hard to connect with people.
01:53:15.000Do you think you'll have to fight them?
01:54:00.000I don't remember if anything came out about that.
01:54:02.000I know that there was a bunch of drugs in the hotel room, but they said that he never used before shows, so it didn't fall in line.
01:54:09.000The problem with heroin use, a lot of really heavy drugs, is that if someone does it in the same environment over and over their body, when you walk into that room, the body gets ready for it.
01:54:18.000It puts the things ready to counter the heroin.
01:54:20.000So then when you go to a new environment, you use that same amount, your body's not ready for it, and it can shock the system.
01:54:26.000Yeah, I mean beyond the fact that it could just have been tainted or there could be any number of things that is wrong with it that caused those problems.
01:54:47.000We're walking around and there was a part of U Street that was, you know, under construction so it was like one of those, what are they called?
01:54:56.000And it's just us walking one way and then a group of men in black and stuff are coming at us and I kind of look at them but I'm trying not to be a weird starer.
01:55:07.000And I realize, oh my god, that's the freaking Foo Fighters!
01:55:11.000And I say, oh my god, that was the Foo Fighters!
01:55:13.000And Dave Grohl, because at this point we had passed each other, mocks me.
01:55:18.000He goes, oh my god, that's the Foo Fighters!
01:55:21.000And I was like, Dave Grohl just mocked me!
01:55:24.000We got to the bar where we were headed.
01:55:26.000I was like, you guys, Dave Grohl just mocked me.
01:56:49.000Waffle Sensei says, if you are not fighting for hearts and minds and souls, and you're only fighting to win, then all you want is power, and you deserve none of it.
01:57:47.000And then afterwards, we use that recording for all the clips, because the live streamed version has artifacting or down res or something like that.
01:57:53.000But there have been instances where I've screwed up or we ran a hard drive space where things crashed.
01:57:58.000And we should probably check that, actually.
01:57:59.000And then we're like, we'll just download it from YouTube, but we can't.
01:58:03.000So we have to screen capture our own show.
01:58:06.000We have to, like, load it, let it run for two hours, and just record so that we can make clips again, because you can't download it.
01:58:13.000And the way livestreams work, these third-party downloading things don't work either.
01:58:16.000They may have fixed it, maybe it's changed, but we've had those.
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