Donald Trump fears he is going to be charged in connection with the January 6th riot at the Capitol. The Lotus Eaters' Conor Tomlinson joins us to talk about the possibility of an investigation into the events of that day. Plus, the Dutch government has been convicted of sending over 1,600 suicide kits to people across the country.
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00:01:43.000Thank you very much for inviting me, everyone.
00:01:44.000Yes, Conor Tomlinson, writer and host over at LotusEaters.com, spearheaded by the wonderful Carl Benjamin, also frequent face on GB News, the English equivalent to Fox, essentially.
00:01:54.000You might want to come up on the mic a little bit.
00:03:23.000Deranged Jack Smith, the prosecutor with President Joe Biden's DOJ, sent a letter, again it was Sunday night, stating that I am a target of the January 6th grand jury investigation and giving me a very short four days to respond to the grand jury, which almost always means an arrest and I don't have any drink to hand.
00:03:44.000The former host of this show, Sir Timothy Kast, often has a two-word phrase that he
00:03:52.000references, especially in reference to the President of the United States having legal
00:03:57.000pressure on him or a former president being arrested.
00:04:14.000And also, as a Brit, looking and seeing American culture and society in governmental operations, how does this look to you?
00:04:21.000Well, we as an American vassal state, a relationship which should have never been inverted, but there you go.
00:04:27.000Same controversial things to the chat already.
00:04:30.000It's obviously a political indictment.
00:04:32.000It's obvious that they're trying to just get him off of the ballot in whichever states which would bar him if he were indicted from being off because they're petrified of him winning a safe and secure election.
00:04:43.000One of the most egregious ones that we covered on our show was the E. Jean Carroll case, and we can't say she was making it up because that would be libelous, but considering she might have gotten her story from a Law & Order episode, this does not look very credulous.
00:05:00.000I mean, yeah, okay, he's probably stored them improperly judging by the photos that were given to the New York Post, but he does have declassification power.
00:05:11.000And so this is just another attempt in a long line of incredulous claims to try and scare him off.
00:05:16.000And frankly, as a Brit, I don't think our political establishment would like Donald Trump back in.
00:05:21.000I mean, the then Home Secretary Sajid Javid wrote a piece for The Times saying that he publicly endorsed Joe Biden while still in government.
00:05:31.000But Trump's energy policy, for example, fantastic for the UK before we decided to blow all our money on Ukraine and demolish our energy security.
00:05:40.000And this was one of my former jobs, I used to work in energy policy.
00:05:43.000And Trump, from 2017 to 2019, made America not only the first energy independent for the first time since Nixon signed the mandate with expanding fracking and getting natural gas, But you guys, despite Donald Trump being a climate denier, he made the US lead the world in reducing their emissions.
00:06:00.000And so you're achieving environmental goals whilst also making it so that you're insulated from geopolitical conflict.
00:06:06.000Of course, the uniparty types that wanted to sell all of your strategic reserves to Sinopec couldn't have that.
00:06:12.000And so if Trump were back, the UK would be absolutely benefiting, but they're doing their best not to.
00:06:17.000I think a lot of us would be benefiting from it.
00:06:19.000One thing I find fascinating, you mentioned climate change, the fact that Trump is a climate denier.
00:06:23.000This is one of the most ridiculous phrases that you hear thrown around politically.
00:06:26.000A person can be totally accepting of every single thing that's even supposedly in the scientific consensus surrounding climate change, but if they're not an alarmist who says the world is going to end in 12 years, and then says that again in 12 years when the prophecy doesn't come true, then they're a total climate denier and we have to disregard everything they say.
00:06:41.000There's a sleight of hand that frequently occurs where they'll say something like 97% of climate scientists agree that humans are having some effect on global temperatures or climate, and they will use that to suggest that 97% of climate scientists say that we have catastrophic climate change that is going to kill us in 10 years if we don't pass the Green New Deal.
00:07:01.000But it's also interesting to get back to the topic after I've pontificated on that, to just consider the way Trump is viewed in Europe, and I'm curious what the view of the average English person is.
00:07:12.000It doesn't surprise me that your establishment doesn't like him because he's very anti-establishment, but like, on the ground, when you're just dealing with everyday average people, what's the general feeling about him?
00:07:21.000And also, is this kind of thing talked about?
00:07:23.000The legal scandals here, January 6th, whether it was an insurrection, etc.
00:07:27.000They're talked about peripherally, it depends on if a person watches mainstream news or not.
00:07:31.000If they watch the BBC, just because, and I don't wish to disparage my own mother, she's lovely and she supports my career, but if you're turning on the TV and you go on autopilot, you might see the 60 second news bulletin that says President Trump has been indicted again, or or the January 6th committee has declared him guilty or
00:08:00.000To be fair, I've seen lots of Americans really enjoy our House of Commons debates because we do deliberately insult each other at this badge box.
00:08:07.000Though it's still bread and circuses because they both agree on the same policies at all times.
00:08:11.000If you examine the Conservative and Labour parties, it's the Michael Malice phrase, conservatism is progressivism driving the speed limit.
00:08:16.000Well, you know, both parties just flooring it right now, but not to wander off topic.
00:08:21.000Lots of the British public I think lots of them like Trump's character just because he's kind of funny and how he sticks it to the establishment in the same way that they liked Nigel Farage and Brexit.
00:08:32.000Nigel Farage got about 4 million votes the last time he ran and didn't get a seat because of our electoral system.
00:08:37.000But lots of the British public was so fed up with the capital P progressive unidirectional narrative that Tony Blair in the 1990s said was as inevitable as the changing of the seasons that they really just wanted to stick it to the establishment.
00:08:48.000And this is why they voted Boris eventually in 2019.
00:08:51.000Unfortunately that didn't pan out very well because he ended up being a progressive as well, but he won a stonking majority because people thought he was a bit like a British Trump, you know, a sort of foul-mouthed guy who was dragged backwards through Eton.
00:09:03.000And so the perception of Trump is basically, if you watch the mainstream news, you're not going to like him because you think he's rude and bombastic and he overthrew his democracy.
00:09:11.000If not, you're going to think of him similar to Brexit, of, these people aren't acting in my interest and I will take a stick of dynamite to tear it all asunder, than another sort of polite, nodding establishment figure like a Mitt Romney or something.
00:09:23.000I think so many Americans feel sort of similarly.
00:10:25.000And so here's one of the things about Donald Trump that I think is often overlooked and one of the probably most unfair characterizations you'll see of him.
00:10:31.000Of course, he's going to be compared to a fascist because they compare everyone they don't like to a fascist.
00:10:35.000But his speeches are the most anti-fascistic style speeches you're ever going to hear.
00:10:41.000A fascist leader gets up in front of the people.
00:10:47.000Trump just goes up there and he riffs and he's hilarious and everyone has a great time.
00:10:53.000And part of what was so beautiful about that CNN town hall was the fact that this woman was speaking to him and literally positioning herself as the anti-fun person.
00:11:06.000This audience was not selected because they love Donald Trump and even they were cracking up and having a great time because of his delivery and his performance.
00:11:13.000No, you can sit there and say, I don't want that in a leader, I don't want someone who cracks jokes, I don't want someone who has that kind of charisma.
00:11:20.000That's not what I'm trying to address here.
00:11:21.000But my point is, the media will play clips of him, and then criticize those, and even then they don't end up looking that great.
00:11:29.000Attempting to criticize him in person, on stage, When the people in the audience are on his side, is the worst possible optics.
00:11:36.000Because everyone's having a great time and laughing, and CNN is there going, no, stop, stop having fun, you need to stop having fun, stop having fun, right now.
00:11:43.000And they ended up cutting it early because of that.
00:11:45.000Caitlin Collins, is that who you're talking about?
00:11:48.000She's an interesting person, and I don't want to ad hominem on that girl too much, because, but I just noticed... I'm not ad hominem, I'm just saying it was very... I'm about to, so I'm just saying beforehand I don't want to, but I'm going to.
00:11:58.000I like her, but, I mean, I like what she's doing, I'm glad she's out there, but, like, her smile, she's got, like, I don't know if she got work done on her face, but the sides of her mouth are, like, up in a smile, but everything about her face shows misery.
00:12:26.000And that's why it makes sense that there are so many people in the media who have that kind of face.
00:12:29.000And that is Hillary Clinton's face, right?
00:12:31.000I mean, she's very much got that phony smile.
00:12:34.000And this is something about Donald Trump that a lot of people Appreciate, I think even people who don't agree with him policy-wise will usually acknowledge is a good thing.
00:12:45.000She's a person who follows every single one of the rules and conventions necessary to create good optics for oneself and be considered a conventional political leader who could be tenable to the American people and the establishment.
00:12:56.000But behind closed doors and behind the scenes, we all know she's unbearably corrupt.
00:13:01.000Donald Trump, on the other hand, follows none of the rules, none of the social conventions surrounding the way political leaders are supposed to speak and act in this country.
00:13:09.000And yet, relative to basically every establishment political leader in this country, and especially Hillary Clinton, he's squeaky clean.
00:13:16.000This is not something I would have said about him back in 2016, by the way.
00:13:19.000I wouldn't vouch for the guy at that time.
00:13:21.000When the Russia stuff first came up, I was unsure if it was true or not.
00:13:24.000But as they continued to investigate, and it continued to become apparent that it was a nothing burger, and they'd spent years trying to nail him on anything they could with all of these random investigations, and they found nothing, it became obvious that this guy was way cleaner than I ever thought he was to begin with!
00:13:37.000If I can just pick up on two things there.
00:13:39.000The first thing is how he presents himself optically.
00:13:43.000I don't want to say it's a tactic, but it's something I've learned is very useful for when you do mainstream television, because it's very different to the sort of relaxed, long-form stuff that you guys do here and we do over at Lotus Eaters.
00:13:52.000And that is, most of the time, people will just want to monologue in their little sectioned box, and they want to say their piece, and they're not actually addressing you if you're on a debate panel with someone.
00:14:00.000They're just trying to win the audience over.
00:14:02.000What Trump does is he breaks the fourth wall.
00:14:03.000He shows that the emperor has no clothes.
00:14:05.000He routinely says, okay, this is how they're framing something, this is how they're trying to make me look bad.
00:14:10.000When I've done that on air before, if someone isn't addressing my point, I'll just say to the audience, oh, just so you guys know, you're not going to answer my question.
00:14:16.000Just so everyone can see, you're just going to dodge it and you're going to come up with your pre-scripted talking points.
00:14:20.000And it shows the disingenuity of the establishment.
00:14:22.000And that connects to the fact of, and this is why they say certain things are beyond debate, or they say certain things are threats to democracy, or the uniparty agrees on both policies.
00:14:29.000There's a German legal theorist that I know James Lindsay is not a fan of, as he has had a go at me on Twitter this week, Carl Schmitt.
00:14:36.000Now, let me declare, I disavow his mid-century German allegiances later on, but before he joined the party that we will not name, he recognised that things like liberalism and technology are depoliticising forces, and he defined political as the friend-enemy distinction.
00:14:52.000There is a group of people that are against your end-stated goals, and there is a group of people that are for it, and even though you might have a common enemy at a time when the enemy is vanquished, are we rebuilding the same society?
00:15:02.000And the depoliticising force, it eliminates, it mires things in debate, and it says certain things are beyond debate, and so it stigmatises certain perspectives.
00:15:10.000And actually that smuggles in the existential threat.
00:15:12.000So that would be like the fall of the republic.
00:15:14.000So the wheels are still spinning, the oligarchs are still profiting, and in the background the forces of entropy are setting on your country and tearing it apart.
00:15:20.000And that's what I think people felt when they voted for Donald Trump.
00:15:22.000They felt that the establishment had ring-fenced off certain things, like the global offshoring of manufacturing to leave the country behind, the hollowing out of the social texture of the United States, where we're all just squabbling over equality and forgetting about the capital C creator in the Bill of Rights.
00:15:36.000And because those things were beyond reproach, it didn't not have human consequences.
00:15:40.000And they saw this man as a repoliticizing force.
00:15:42.000They're going to speak to us, his friends, against our enemies.
00:15:45.000He is pointing out the depoliticizing framing, and he's hammering them on it.
00:15:49.000Yeah, I think social media censorship was also a technological squishing of civil rights.
00:15:58.000Who has the right to tell me I can't say what I want on the internet?
00:16:02.000Just because it's owned by a private company?
00:16:08.000The technology is way beyond politics and it can take things like a snowball down a hill.
00:16:15.000For good or evil, I understand, or for good or bad, whether or not it's good that we had someone come in and start saying, he's a bad guy, he's a bad guy, I'm a good guy.
00:16:23.000It is polarizing, but maybe people just craved it subconsciously because we've been in this bubble of allowing these corporations to take control.
00:16:32.000Yeah, well no, I think there's some truth in that and also say I think the primary reason why people want this friend-enemy distinction is because in reality you do have friends and you do have enemies and there is such a thing as good and evil and for a very long time what evil has done is attempted to blur the lines between the two so that it could ultimately redefine them.
00:16:50.000It's all one thing, and then once people are confused enough, they start to tell you that the good things are bad and the bad things are good.
00:16:56.000And speaking of that, abortion is once again legal in Iowa.
00:17:02.000Just two days after an abortion ban at six weeks was signed into law, a judge has just struck down these restrictions, and I really should call them protections because they're protections of the unborn, And abortion is now legal up to 20 weeks in Iowa.
00:17:19.000Yeah, Iowa's a really interesting case because you're seeing this live battle play out.
00:17:24.000I mean, when Governor Kim Reynolds went to sign this new legislation, which successfully passed the Republican-held House after a special session, there was a judge saying, you know, I am actively in the middle of a challenge on this and I can't, it would be flippant of me to rule on this without giving it consideration.
00:17:43.000So that law went into effect on Friday and he came out early this week and said, you
00:17:47.000know, actually we can't go forward with this.
00:17:49.000We're going to revert back to our 20-week ban on abortion.
00:17:53.000The legislation in question is a six-week ban.
00:17:55.000There are certain exceptions for rape, incest, fetal viability if it's in question or if
00:18:03.000they couldn't survive outside the womb, and mother's health.
00:18:06.000What I find interesting is you're seeing Iowa itself split apart.
00:18:10.000And of course for us, Iowa's significant because it's an early primary state.
00:18:15.000What happens in Iowa, especially during election cycle, is often viewed as a magnifying glass on the rest of the country.
00:18:23.000Yeah, no, I agree, and I think we're going to see a lot more of this.
00:18:25.000There's going to be a massive clash there.
00:18:27.000I'm curious to hear your perspective on this.
00:18:29.000Once again, as somebody coming over here from England, what are the laws and social conventions like surrounding abortion?
00:18:35.000One thing you hear all the time from American progressives is that we are just this backwards, far-right Theocratic nation relative to the enlightened Europeans who just let anything that the progressives want happen.
00:18:47.000But especially prior to Roe, if you actually looked at abortion laws in Europe, you would find that many of them were actually more strict than the laws that you would have, especially in blue states in the U.S.
00:18:58.000I am sorry to rain on your parade a little bit.
00:19:01.000That's not the case in how it plays out in England.
00:19:04.000The English case is, legally it's 24 weeks, other than if you can have a health example that can justify it going further.
00:19:12.000Can I just interject to ask one question?
00:19:13.000When you say health example, so in the United States, like for example, there are certain blue states where like up until the point of birth, which is why I'm saying that it that's so much harsher than what you have in Europe.
00:19:21.000But what I want to ask you about with this legal exception for the case of the life of the mother, one thing that happens in the US is they will use things like depression or a poor mental health outcome to justify that.
00:19:55.000One of the disturbing things that's happened, and this has happened both because of the rising prominence in the polls of the Labour Party after their stinking defeat in 2019.
00:20:03.000They're now getting a bit more bold, because they know they're probably going to win the next election anyway.
00:20:07.000And after the UNAIDS principles, which I don't know if you guys know about?
00:20:12.000Okay, I'll explain that in a minute because it's a really dark rabbit hole.
00:20:15.000But we recently had a debate in Parliament among the MPs, this isn't tabled legislation yet, but about a right to an abortion in a British Bill of Rights that is being drafted after Brexit.
00:20:25.000And Stella Creasy, who is a Labour MP, she sits on the Women's Council, she had gone from, I think it was two years ago, bringing her infant into the House of Commons, even though they have daycare, which I'm against, but she could have put it in the creche in time.
00:20:39.000She made a deliberate point to bring the baby in, went from that to arguing to no restrictions on abortion and a right to abortion codified within the British Bill of Rights in law.
00:20:47.000And so they're getting pretty bold for that.
00:20:49.000And one of the reasons I think this is the case It's because the UN, on International Women's Day this March, put out their 21 AIDS principles to govern sexual health, drug law, things like that.
00:21:00.000And among these things were abortion up until the point of birth has absolutely no restrictions for all member states.
00:21:07.000Downstream from that, it was the decriminalization of all drugs, including... Who was the fellow from... Was it Lance from the Serfs?
00:21:47.000So we have the Met Police in London, who operate from a slightly different commissioner.
00:21:51.000I think each area has commissioners, but central to the government, they can set general policing law.
00:21:56.000The police in England are mad as well.
00:21:58.000I nearly got arrested last year outside a Conservative Party conference.
00:22:01.000There was a video that did the rounds.
00:22:04.000What ended up happening was I went outside to film a street preacher who was arguing with some young girls who were arguing in favour of abortion just outside the secure zone.
00:22:12.000And I was filming it and a local journalist came up to me and said, what do you think of this?
00:22:15.000And I went, I've just arrived on scene, what's even happening?
00:22:17.000And she said, this gentleman here is saying that the LGBTQ plus community are unnatural, according to scripture.
00:22:22.000And I said, right, well, I haven't heard any of this, but You know, I've just been speaking to the LGB Alliance guys, and they separate sexuality and gender, so that's part of the debate you have to parcel out.
00:22:30.000And the TQ Plus might be harbinging something more insidious.
00:22:34.000And I said, have you heard of Gail Rubin?
00:22:35.000And before I finished my thought, an inspector who had been bussed in from Kent to Birmingham, which is, you know, Kent's the south, Birmingham's the north, that's where the conference was, ran up to me, waved his finger in my face, he had to go on his tiptoes because he's rather short, And he said to me, right, if you continue this conversation I'm warning you, I will arrest you under the Public Order Offence Bill because you have insulted this woman's sexuality.
00:22:54.000Because he'd overheard the word insidious, not overheard the conversation properly.
00:22:57.000And he just said, do you understand what I'm saying?
00:22:58.000And when I tried to clarify and ask questions, he said, this is not about questioning, I'm telling you what's happening here.
00:23:04.000I got surrounded by ten other police officers, arms folded, riddled to tackle me, and one guy had a shoulder-mounted camera recording the entire thing.
00:23:10.000And what they do in the UK is, if you are reported for, like, an offence, but it's not a criminal offence, You'll be registered on the non-crime-hate-incident registry, which means there's a black mark against your name that you never know exists, and if employers do a background check on you, even if you've been criminally charged, that will come up, and you will be turned down for jobs without ever knowing it.
00:23:27.000So I had to rely on a lovely gentleman by the name of Harry Miller, he used to work for Faircop, now Bad Law Project, and he got confirmation that I wasn't on that registry, we filed a complaint to the police, but it went nowhere because they protect their own.
00:23:39.000And so, yeah, England's undoubtedly a very progressive-captured country.
00:23:44.000Can I ask you, do you feel like there's a cultural difference in the different regions, like Northern England has a different attitude towards these things than maybe the South?
00:23:52.000Because that's what I feel is at least the stereotype in America, that we're very regionally divided.
00:23:58.000You'll hear West Coast versus, you know, conservative Texas, perhaps.
00:24:01.000We have something called the Red Wall in England, and that was created because when Margaret Thatcher was in power, she decided to disband industries that she thought were defunct, mainly things like coal mining.
00:24:11.000And they had been long-standing sources of community wealth and generational prosperity for years, even though they weren't generating as much.
00:24:17.000And when she ripped that out, she did a lot of battle with the unions as well, and so that's made them more union-ish, and so they voted Labour as a part of their identity.
00:24:26.000She didn't really replace it with anything, and so up north, there's a bit of north-south antagonism.
00:24:31.000We call them Northern Monkeys, they call us Southern Poofters, and we get along with a bit of solidarity against any other country that wants to try their luck.
00:24:39.000But they have resentment of the South, because they see politics as too centralised in the South, and they see it as what left them behind.
00:24:45.000And this was the big difference of Boris Johnson in 2019 as well.
00:24:48.000Because the North overwhelmingly voted for Brexit, thinking that we're sending too much money over to the European Union, it could be reinvested here.
00:24:53.000And Boris Johnson said, right, if you guys lend me your vote, I'll do that.
00:24:55.000I'll do a programme called levelling up, which basically means you'll get new rail infrastructure, you'll get new job opportunities, we'll do regional investment.
00:25:00.000And the Northerners voted for him and then they voted obviously for Boris because they liked him on character, you know, he used to be the London Mayor, he got stuck on a zipline, he'd wave little flags, he was like Mr Bean, you know, people thought he was fun.
00:25:10.000Then Covid hit, lockdowns happened, we were imprisoned in our home for multiple years and Boris, who professed to be a libertarian, squandered all the money away on that and then started partying while we were all locked in our homes and that all got leaked and it was a big scandal.
00:25:21.000I've heard about this, the League of Political Leaders partying in England.
00:25:26.000Boris Johnson got scapegoated from it.
00:25:28.000Matt Hancock, who was the health secretary, who was having an affair with one of his aides at the time, that was called CCTV, he lost his job.
00:25:37.000Well, yeah, I mean, if anyone ever sees a photo of Matt Hancock, I feel deeply ashamed, because he was doing better with his love life under lockdown than I do, and he is not a good-looking bloke.
00:25:47.000But he hasn't lost his place in the party.
00:25:49.000Boris Johnson's basically just been kicked out of the Commons, his seat is up for re-election.
00:25:53.000One of the GB News hosts, Lawrence Fox, is currently running in that, so I wish him luck.
00:25:58.000I mean, they said everything was his fault, and I feel like, from my observational standpoint, the party sort of let him pay for their sins.
00:26:07.000Yeah, and all of the health executives that got all the calls wrong got knighthoods.
00:26:11.000Gavin Williamson, he was the education secretary who repeatedly locked down schools, but despite it being campaigned not to, he resigned from his post for a particular reason that doesn't come to mind right now, but he resigned in disgrace and then got a knighthood from it.
00:26:23.000It's like they're just buying people's silence.
00:27:44.000The Bank of England published the sort of stats on the gilt market on the Friday and the news didn't hit till the Monday and it coincided with the fact the Bank of England realized they'd run out of money.
00:27:52.000So they used Liz Truss's policy as a scapegoat and we know this because like Rishi Senak immediately started spending more money and this suddenly wasn't going to break the market.
00:28:19.000It'll be Keir Starmer, the Labour Party.
00:28:20.000But the interesting thing, and Matt Goodwin is a pretty good academic from my former university who's looked at this, six in ten of people that voted for Boris, that includes those Red Wall people who traditionally voted Labour, flipped to Conservative, they feel so disenfranchised they're just not voting.
00:28:32.000Because for the last 15 years, we've voted consistently for lowered immigration.
00:28:36.000Last year, under Boris Johnson, it hit net 1.1 million plus illegals, and the rate at which the illegal immigration is going up.
00:28:43.000By 2024, we're going to have more people crossing the Channel and filling up UK hotels than British men stormed the beaches of Normandy at D-Day.
00:28:53.000They've had all their promises broken, and so they've just decided, right, we're not flipping our votes, there's no alternatives, so we're just not voting.
00:28:59.000And so Labour are going to win by default, even though they've been utterly incompetent.
00:29:01.000Yeah, so one thing I'd also like to ask you about is, you know, I can't imagine the British media is too different from American media with respect to the way the border issue is addressed, or really not addressed, right?
00:29:13.000The question is always of, are we being nice enough to people who entered our country illegally and not, should we have borders?
00:29:20.000So I'm curious what some of the rhetoric surrounding that has been, differences, similarities, or if it's just kind of the same garbage that we get here.
00:29:51.000They voted in the socialist government, so economic downturn is there, but they were being trafficked by people smuggling gangs.
00:29:56.000And then they had an Albania Day celebration where they drove very flash cars around Parliament Square and draped Winston Churchill's statue in the Albanian flag.
00:30:06.000So it was almost like a Yeah, display of colonialism, exactly.
00:30:10.000So they've broken a deal recently, the Albanian government, so they've stopped coming, but we're still getting loads of people from the migrant camps in Calais from Afghanistan and North Africa and things like that.
00:30:18.000And lots of the conversation, this is mainly the Labour Party's policy, it's going to be how do we create safe and legal routes for these people.
00:30:24.000It's never, they shouldn't be here in the first place because they don't have a legitimate asylum claim.
00:30:27.000It's like, right, how do we take them out from the hotels, which we're paying £7 million a day to put them up in?
00:30:33.000And these are hotels that people would go to work to pay to stay in on holiday.
00:30:37.000How do we move from that to just dropping them in the economy?
00:30:42.000Well, speaking of illegal border crossings, a U.S.
00:30:46.000soldier crossed into North Korea willfully and without authorization.
00:30:51.000So a United States soldier was in custody, actually, in South Korea, in a prison.
00:30:58.000He'd been held on assault charges and was facing additional Military discipline and he was escorted to the airport, but instead of getting on his flight.
00:31:06.000He basically ran away He joined a tour group with a group of civilians who were going near the border.
00:31:12.000He escaped that tour group He ran into North Korea and of course this creates a massive diplomatic problem You know the United States and North Korea are not in contact with one another But of course the United States government is going to want to get this guy back What could he have done that was so bad that he thought he would be better off in North Korea?
00:32:08.000And I don't know if anyone knows, but there was an update from the Taliban today of Lord Miles is still being very politely, very securely, very friendly held by the Taliban.
00:32:17.000Yeah, so this might be a sort of danger tourism thing of where he's going.
00:32:20.000Well, this looks like a crazy place nobody's been to.
00:32:23.000I mean, to that to that end, we should point out that Otto Warmbier was the last high profile, at least he's not the most recent American to have gone over, but he was a college student.
00:32:34.000He had gone over because he wanted to see the world.
00:32:37.000And apparently he stole a poster and got held for years and years and ended up dying shortly after Trump negotiated his return.
00:32:44.000I think that he said he, someone in his church group claimed that if he brought something back that they would give him a car, something wild like that.
00:32:53.000Yeah, so the dude was sentenced to 10 years hard labor, if I'm not mistaken.
00:32:56.000That might not have been exactly, but he ended up dying before we could get him back.
00:32:59.000Yeah, they said it was botulism that killed him, but then there are reports, actually there was a North Korean defected, spy defect, that had defected away from North Korea that said he was killed on, he was poisoned.
00:33:09.000I mean, he spent a long time In a coma, according to North Korea, which they just never updated anyone on.
00:33:20.000I don't mean to make light of it, but this idea that we would have young men who think, oh, well, I'll just go to North Korea.
00:33:27.000I mean, I don't think that was necessarily Otto's motivation.
00:33:30.000I think there's probably something, you know, very masculine and very real about wanting to see dangerous places.
00:33:38.000With this American soldier, I really think we have to question what is going on where you think running across the border to North Korea is your answer, right?
00:33:47.000Part of the issue is America being on the world stage now, not having President Trump in office, not having the same strong but slightly strange relationship with little rocket man Kim Jong-un.
00:33:59.000There's no bargaining power to get this guy and any of the secrets that he might know.
00:34:04.000That's a pretty precarious situation to be in.
00:34:06.000Because initially when this story broke, I thought, you know, what is so bad that North Korea is the answer?
00:34:11.000But now, you know, you may be able to live a nice life where North Korea says thank you for all this information for as long as they're willing to tolerate you, right?
00:35:06.000Maybe he's just so young that he was like, I don't like the American military anymore and I really think socialism is it, so I'll just head on over.
00:35:13.000Well, I'm looking for places to be refugees too because I was talking to you guys about this off-air.
00:35:18.000The UK government at the moment is passing something called the online safety bill.
00:35:22.000They used to call it the online harms bill, so you know.
00:35:26.000And basically what it means is that it puts the UK government's arbitration body for television media that stipulates you have to be unbiased, unless you're left-wing, which you can get away with it, in charge of every internet broadcast show.
00:35:38.000So if you guys were broadcasting from the UK, not just streaming in the UK, then you would have to have, I don't know, like Vaush on all the time as a guest to balance it out.
00:35:47.000And it would just derail the conversation on whatever topics you were doing.
00:35:50.000And so, like, our show won't operate, especially because, as well, the possible new Prime Minister wants to criminalise misgendering.
00:35:55.000So it's like, am I going to be, I don't know, crashing on a couch in Tennessee in, like, a year's time?
00:36:00.000I mean, North Korea's looking real sunny this time of year.
00:36:03.000Yeah, I mean, obviously they're not going to be the kind of political freedom you're looking for, but I hear you.
00:36:06.000England is very scary right now, and this is something that a lot of progressives neglect to acknowledge very conveniently when they talk about the kind of draconian speech codes that they want to impose socially.
00:36:15.000So they'll say things like, well, these social media companies might be censoring people, but it's done privately.
00:36:21.000Political correctness or woke-ism aren't real problems because it's all about just being polite and being a different, excuse me, respectful and decent person.
00:36:30.000Of course, in Europe, people are actually prosecuted for saying things that challenge the regime, that are considered, you know, offensive, that are harmful and, you know, quote-unquote, damaging to the LGBTQ community.
00:36:41.000It's easy to forget this as an American, that in the Western world, there are people who are criminally charged for saying things that fly in the face of left-wing orthodoxy.
00:36:50.000There are people who are criminally charged for saying, effectively, men are men, and women are women, and I'm not going to call a man a woman or a woman a man.
00:36:59.000But there are people who cheer this on, right?
00:37:01.000You'll get people who will say, yes, you should absolutely pass that bill, because I don't want to hear these things, and I don't want other people to hear these things.
00:37:08.000I don't even know what you're saying, but I have heard are offensive.
00:37:10.000And that's what's the most disturbing to me, that we have a complete lack of regard for the fact that someone whose opinion is different than you might not be Hateful, right?
00:37:34.000Like, what is the- how do you know if they had hate in their heart when they were saying or doing- Sorry, but like, since when did you murder someone out of love?
00:37:43.000Even the crime of passion is hatred in the moment, so it's complete nonsensical.
00:37:46.000We've got two pieces of legislation in the UK that really screw us over.
00:37:49.000It's section 127 of the Communications Act of 2003.
00:37:52.000That means that if you say anything that can be deemed, quote, grossly offensive over a digital platform, as long as they find someone who's offended by it, or even in the case of Count Dankula, they couldn't, but the Scottish government prosecuted him anyway, you can be prosecuted for saying something that offends someone.
00:38:08.000And then we also have the Equalities Act, which creates a sort of hierarchy of protected characteristics, and the frustrating thing is, and this is why, and I don't wish to disparage some of the TERFs, even though I find the label radical feminist sends a shiver up my spine.
00:38:23.000But they're the only good feminists in a lot of ways.
00:38:27.000Well, my friend Mary Harrington and the reactionary feminists would seem to dissent on that point, but I don't want to get too derailed.
00:38:32.000The feminists are using the Equality Act legislation to fight the reason that they are being prosecuted under the Equality Act.
00:38:39.000So they just got like gender critical beliefs added to the Equality Act, but it's like you're just stacking more protected characteristics on top of each other.
00:39:09.000That's unbelievable that you could have a governing legal authority, a judge, say that context doesn't matter.
00:39:15.000He took it to pretty much every court that he could and they still wouldn't take it.
00:39:19.000Context matters, and an example of that is jaywalking.
00:39:23.000Of course it's illegal, but if there's a baby in the middle of the road and a car's coming, you run out in the street and grab the baby and take him to the sidewalk, you've violated the law and no one's going to prosecute you for that.
00:39:41.000The interesting thing though is that we have abolished forgiveness, and Seamus will agree with me on this, when we've become a post-Christian culture, we like to pretend we're a post-religious culture, but they're just a religion without a metaphysic.
00:39:51.000We now have a one-strike rule that brands you the Scarlet Letter forever, and the reason we do that as well is because we have met so many of our material needs that now we have moved on to the recognition economy.
00:40:02.000This is why there's so many information sector jobs, like social media or HR or marketing, and this is why there's an infinite number of fractionating pride flags.
00:40:12.000People want to codify their personality type and demand that you affirm them because their unsettled screaming consciences, their anxieties, them doing something behind closed doors that they know is kind of sordid, they need you to affirm them.
00:40:35.000Effectively, when they see you criticize them, and in fact, not even necessarily just when they see you criticizing them, when they just see you living and acting like a normal person, having a normal life and not engaged in the degenerate nonsense that they're engaged in, they are bothered by it because you, in that moment, are a proxy for their conscience.
00:40:56.000Your bedroom door has magical properties such that it totally erases the consequences of your actions from your psyche and when you go into the outside world your behavior is not modified and the way you interact with the rest of us isn't modified or effective by what you've done in there.
00:41:12.000Whatever sort of thing you're doing as being the new societal standard so that you aren't No, I think that's the important argument for religion.
00:41:18.000I know there are criticisms of organized religion, but having something larger than yourself means that you don't need to seek affirmation from a crowd of people or whoever's trendy right now.
00:41:25.000snowflake is not enough if you have crippling social anxiety.
00:41:28.000Yeah, I think that's the important argument for religion. I know there are criticisms
00:41:32.000of organized religion, but having something larger than yourself means that you don't
00:41:36.000need to seek affirmation from a crowd of people or whoever's trendy right now. Whoever says,
00:41:41.000well, I know how you can feel like you're doing the right thing and we'll praise you
00:41:44.000for doing this. Like it's such a damaging way to live your life that I am surprised
00:41:48.000that I'm not surprised because our culture thrives on insecurity.
00:41:52.000Uh, A- It's funny to me that they can't look themselves in the face and say, oh, I can see the cycle I'm trapped in.
00:41:59.000I'm never good enough for this ideology that actually hates me and would be fine if I got destroyed because it betters their own agenda.
00:42:05.000Yeah, well, and also, oh sorry, I'll let you jump in a second because I want to hear from you.
00:42:08.000Just the way you said that, thinking about people being used as pawns to forward a political agenda, like if someone that identifies as a trans female goes into a shooting rage and then is killed by the police, it's like, oh, trans rights, you know, and it's like, what do you mean?
00:42:44.000That's exactly what I was just thinking about, Audrey Hale.
00:42:47.000So in Tennessee, when those Christian children were murdered by a person who identified as transgender, because they identified as transgender left-wingers who had invaded a Capitol building, I believe it was the Capitol they invaded in the state of Tennessee as well, they were saying that there were seven victims there because they considered the shooter to have been a victim.
00:43:09.000And this is because, like, victimhood in their mind is merely a question of identity.
00:43:15.000If you are in a victim class, everything you do is a manifestation of your victimhood, and if you're in an oppressor class, everything you do is a manifestation of your oppressiveness.
00:43:25.000So, of course this person was a victim.
00:43:35.000For them, being a victim means that somebody is going to champion you and give you special privileges, and I have to be more understanding because I couldn't possibly understand what you're going through and the hardships and this, that and the other.
00:43:45.000Instead of a culture that encourages you to know yourself well, to live by strong values, they're saying just completely fall apart and then someone else will tell you when you're okay or not.
00:44:00.000Like, I'm all about equality over equity.
00:44:02.000Like, you ever see that meme of the three people, the short guy, the medium-sized guy, and the tall guy, trying to look over a fence, and only the tall guy can see, but there's three boxes, and each of them have one box.
00:44:11.000So the tall guy can see, the medium guy and the small guy can't see.
00:44:14.000Or it's the other way, the medium guy and the tall guy can see, the small guy can't see.
00:44:17.000So they say equity, and they give the boxes of the tall guy to the small guy.
00:44:20.000And now the small guy, now they can all see.
00:44:24.000So I understand a little bit of that, sometimes maybe, man, but not like an entire society built around kneecapping the best among us to propel those that can't.
00:44:33.000To your example, what they're saying is the tall guy should have to kneel down and not look past the fence at all.
00:44:40.000He's gotten to watch this baseball game for too long.
00:44:43.000He can still see without the box, so they take his box away and give it to someone else.
00:44:47.000And what I'm saying is, they're saying that's not enough.
00:44:50.000Hold on, but this is also really important because a lot of people fail to recognize this.
00:44:54.000Even if you want to buy into this worldview, you have to be given exactly what they need in order to be equal to other people.
00:45:01.000How on earth do you have any idea what it is about a person that makes them unequal to other people?
00:45:05.000How could you possibly say you have an answer to that question?
00:45:07.000People are unbelievably complex and intricate.
00:45:09.000The idea that you could just, like, rearrange material reality to the point where everyone's on an equal playing field is complete nonsense.
00:45:39.000And to tie up the materialism versus metaphysics, what you're proximate to, what higher ideal you both serve but can never be too excessive in trying to embody but not circumventing, the reason Audrey Hale was lionised as a martyr to the trans cause It's twofold, and this is why I think Marxism and liberalism are twin cheeks of the same materialistic backside.
00:46:01.000In all of the Marxist literature you will see that because the superstructure, the oppressive, engineered inequities by capitalism is inescapable, then if you set up a revolution, all
00:46:13.000revolution is just self-defense. You'll see this in Engels, Marx, and Rosa Luxemburg, revolutionary
00:47:10.000And to also reference Augustine, he said that man has as many masters as he does vices.
00:47:17.000And so this idea of freedom as we generally conceive of it, merely being a product of the ability to have multiple choices without reference to your internal discipline, is totally nonsensical.
00:47:28.000And speaking of that kind of worldview, And what it leads to, we have a story here of a pro-euthanasia activist who's been convicted in the Netherlands of sending suicide kits to 1600 people.
00:47:42.000This is the inevitable outgrowth of materialism, the belief that freedom is simply a product of making multiple choices and has nothing to do with what the right or wrong choice is, as well as a person's virtuous predispositions or lack thereof.
00:47:55.000or what man is meant to do and whether he's free to flourish in the role that he was built for rather than the one he has chosen for himself irrationally.
00:48:04.000The activist Alex S was selling kits to people who didn't qualify for the legal assisted suicide program and according to the court the activist convinced people that the drugs were painless but in reality they suffered quote Severe distress and panic which led to a gruesome death, but it actually gets even worse than that.
00:48:23.000In April, the Netherlands announced plans to expand the assisted suicide and euthanasia program to allow children ages 1 to 12 year olds to be eligible.
00:49:15.000But the trans identity is a form of Gnosticism where your body is a fleshy prison and you have to approximate it to feel who you truly are inside.
00:49:22.000So there's no sacredness about the body you were given.
00:49:24.000You just play mix and match with the appendages until you feel okay.
00:49:27.000Or there's the attitude that your body is kind of a vessel of gratification.
00:49:31.000It's just the means by which you feel around in a purely sensory world.
00:49:35.000And so when you stop being capable of that sensation, when you stop being able to be pleasure-seeking because you have a terminal illness or you're old or you're just depressed and you don't feel anything anymore, then they say, well, it's perfectly logically consistent to exit.
00:49:45.000And their only complaint is that you are suffering, not that you are achieving the ultimate suffering, which is just the extinguishing of your consciousness.
00:49:51.000Exactly, well, okay, that's a very important point, and I would frame it very similarly.
00:49:55.000Once you have made the meaning of life pleasure, once a person is no longer able to, or at the very least, less capable of experiencing subjectively pleasurable states, then their life no longer has meaning.
00:50:07.000If the purpose of life, if the meaning of life goes deeper than your own particular emotions about the situation that you're in, then no amount of suffering actually justifies ending the life of a human being directly and intentionally.
00:50:21.000Yeah, this is classic Solzhenitsyn existentialism.
00:50:24.000And if you ever want to sort of escape, and I've suffered with depression throughout my life, I'm not going to minimize it, but if you ever want to get perspective, read the accounts of the people that have suffered the most and that you will probably never suffer, and they have come through it with sincere metaphysical convictions and faith in humanity.
00:50:40.000Viktor Frankl wrote about this, that Solzhenitsyn's written about this, if they can survive
00:50:44.000a gulag or a concentration camp, you can survive not being able to access Pornhub on your
00:50:49.000**Matt Laughs** **Matt** No, and Utah blocked it because kids weren't able
00:50:53.000to look at it. What an important detail in that story. And before I pass to you, Ian, I just
00:50:58.000want to mention here, with what you just said, I agree with you that when you
00:51:03.000look at people who have experienced the most tremendous suffering, they tend to be deferential to a
00:51:09.000higher power. They believe in morality. They believe in meaning. And...
00:51:13.000And of course, that's because experience is an expensive classroom, and those who have paid the greatest price often have the greatest knowledge, but also because I believe those situations actually select for people who have a deeper view of what existence is that goes beyond pleasure.
00:51:25.000Because if you don't view that to begin with, or you don't come to believe that at some point through that experience, you're just gonna...
00:51:31.000It's a crucible for spiritual formation, yeah.
00:51:33.000Well, being in the gym, man, with a personal trainer being like, you're 12 more.
00:51:52.000That's why MSNBC came out the other day and said lifting weights is right wing.
00:51:56.000Because you're an independent thinker.
00:51:57.000Once you master your own body and are not contingent on other people's stimulants or pleasures to try and sedate that screaming conscience, then the universal homogenous state can't have you in their clutches.
00:52:07.000Shoot, man, yeah, I gotta get way more right-wing.
00:52:09.000I'll have to hit the gym with you, man.
00:52:12.000One point that you mention here is that it's like your own personal hell.
00:52:15.000There's something here, there's actually something that touches on an important part.
00:52:18.000No, no, no, I know, but this touches on an important part of, like, the Christian tradition, which is dying to yourself.
00:52:23.000It's like, to describe it as hell, in some senses, to describe it as, like, a small death.
00:52:26.000Like, you are willfully embracing a form of death, but what is the outcome of that?
00:52:33.000You actually strengthen yourself because you've willfully embraced that small death.
00:52:36.000Literally tearing your muscles, bleeding on the inside so that it can forge and regrow stronger and bigger.
00:52:42.000Yeah, that small death has, like, led to a small resurrection, in a sense.
00:52:45.000And I think we see that with all productive things that are painful, right?
00:52:51.000If you really buckle down and do your job, even though it's difficult, there's, like, a small death you feel, oh, it's so beautiful outside, I don't want to work right now.
00:52:57.000But then when all is said and done and you've created this, it's like this moment of resurrection.
00:53:00.000You've created something beautiful because you willingly embrace that.
00:53:03.000Yeah, I think there's a resistance to accepting that glory comes through struggle, right?
00:53:07.000Glory is through a lot of things and there's a fear of hardship, right?
00:53:12.000So when we talk about censoring people's language or saying, you know, you have to call me by these things.
00:53:16.000You need to make me feel good about myself.
00:53:20.000Encouraging a culture that is avoiding challenge and avoiding personal growth through challenge, and I think that is what's most devastating to To people today is that you can never feel true satisfaction without really feeling you've achieved something and sometimes achievement comes at a cost I won't I mean I agree with you I think you can't minimize You know how crippling depression anxiety some of the emotional states that people go through can be on the other hand Working through your struggle is ultimately how you become a better and stronger version of yourself, and it gives you a perspective that you are, I personally feel like, meant to have, right?
00:53:57.000You want to have insight into the world that makes you more in touch with the human condition.
00:54:03.000That's another struggle because it's easy to think.
00:54:05.000It's easy to get distracted and think about the colors you see or the noise you're hearing, but to have no thoughts, that's a challenge and it is hard.
00:54:12.000That's why prayer is a lot easier because all you do is externalize your thoughts and you give it up to the big man upstairs and he can walk you through it.
00:54:18.000Rather than try and force yourself to be completely blind, you just vent your conscience out and you actually have a dialogue with someone that can help you out.
00:54:23.000And there's also, I would say, there's also a discipline and difficulty to prayer, which is kind of touching on part of what you're saying, which is, even though I don't, like, recommend the form of meditation you're describing, I agree that there's something very difficult about not just allowing your internal monologue to drag you everywhere without taking a moment to reflect about what you're thinking about, what you're orienting yourself towards.
00:54:45.000uh i believe to develop a prayer life in part to escape that just constantly being led around by that that almost nagging that like very adhd jump from subject to subject to subject just based on whatever enters consciousness why i don't prayer what i don't pray by saying things in my thoughts i just have no thoughts is because i feel like it's polarizing to choose this is what it's going to be like with no thought there's no i'm not deciding it's got to be this now it i'm i get concerned about my polarizing my behavior in my mind That's interesting.
00:55:19.000When you're allowing yourself, and we all do this, right?
00:55:22.000And this is what we're trying to escape in some sense.
00:55:23.000When we allow ourselves to just be dragged around from thought to thought, in that instance we're actually not choosing what we're thinking about, right?
00:55:30.000And I think to jump to another state where you're trying to suppress all thought, I would say you're also just not choosing a particular thought.
00:55:37.000And so that's why I would say like prayer is actually uh... the opposite of just letting yourself being led
00:56:16.000We'll have to discuss it because, again, I've made my thoughts about that form of meditation clear, but it'd be a cool discussion for the after show, too, I think, to get into some of that stuff.
00:56:25.000With reference to what Hannah Clare was saying about making yourself better, I just want to mention this before we move on from the topic.
00:56:33.000You made this point, becoming a stronger, better version of yourself.
00:56:37.000If you believe that there is a telos, that there is a purpose, that there is a reason you are here, then achieving that purpose is what you're supposed to do.
00:56:44.000And a struggle is something that you may have to embrace in order to reach that fulfillment, in order to fulfill your purpose.
00:56:53.000Uh, and you can get pleasure from that.
00:56:55.000Like, of course, naturally, there's a natural pleasure that comes from doing things the right way.
00:56:58.000And when you develop virtue, there's like a pleasure that a person can get from doing something virtuous.
00:57:04.000That said, I think the modern conceptualization, which is just feel good about things, of course, can't contend with that.
00:57:13.000And what ends up happening is your, your mission is not necessarily become a better version of yourself.
00:57:17.000It's just that maximize positive experiences in minimize Displeasurable experiences and so what that results in is basically a philosophy that I don't think can argue against the best possible state to be in is a simulation where everything goes well for you and not living in the real world doing difficult but important things.
00:57:34.000where you get whatever you want because it's completely about self-indulgence
00:57:38.000and in that you are never able to experience true joy or happiness
00:57:42.000because it's all about momentary immediate pleasure, right?
00:57:45.000I mean, some of the challenges that we're talking about, like when you bring up working out,
00:57:48.000is that long-term you're gonna feel the benefits of it.
00:57:51.000It's not that every single day when you're lifting the weights is super fun, right?
00:57:56.000It's that ultimately these things are worth it and that you stay on the path
00:58:00.000because you know you're achieving something great through the sacrifice and struggle that it takes.
00:58:04.000I do like, yesterday I was playing Drops of Jupiter by Train and I start crying, man.
00:58:08.000I'm thinking about my mom, and he's singing about his mom in that song, and she died, I guess, and her soul's out there, and it comes, it's just like, but then I feel like, it's like, yeah, it hurts, and it's painful, it's sad, but then I'm normal, like, it's okay, it's okay, you don't have to put Xanax in your brain.
00:58:21.000You can bear suffering, as it turns out.
00:58:45.000Like you, you can't just make it about embracing something difficult because sometimes something which is more difficult is not necessarily the best path for you.
00:59:35.000If you want to sit here and make the argument that student loan forgiveness is a good program, I'll disagree with you for some reasons I've laid out last night, and which I'll summarize again in a moment here.
00:59:43.000Ultimately, the idea that it is an infringement of people's rights, that the Supreme Court is failing to stick to constitutional ideals by not allowing Joe Biden to redistribute wealth from people who didn't receive higher education or who paid off their loans to people who did receive higher education and or didn't pay off their loans, or I should say and didn't pay off their loans, not and or.
01:00:07.000So I rattled off some statistics last night.
01:00:10.000People who graduate with a PhD earn something like $99,000 a year as their median income and their unemployment rate is about 1.1%.
01:00:19.000People with a master's will earn a median income of about $78,000.
01:00:25.000Their unemployment rate is slightly higher, but nothing too terrible.
01:00:29.000Then when you go down to people who only have a high school education, Their median income is about $38,000 a year and they have a 4 point something percent unemployment rate.
01:00:37.000So the idea that people who haven't received higher education who are making significantly less money and have a higher unemployment rate should have their wealth redistributed in order to pay for people who did receive a higher education and who are now in the workforce with a higher earning potential despite taking anywhere between four and eight years out of the workforce in order to attain that degree.
01:00:58.000And in many cases, paid for some of their living expenses rather than just their education with those loans.
01:01:06.000It's totally unfair, aside from being unconstitutional, that that should be the state of affairs.
01:01:10.000I gotta ask, because I talked to my mother about this a couple days ago, and I was like, I'm not comfortable.
01:01:14.000She's like, oh yeah, they're starting to stop him from... but Ian, you need to... and I'm like, I'm not comfortable getting other people to It's tax money to pay off my debt.
01:01:21.000And she's like, no, it's only the billionaire's taxes that are getting used.
01:01:27.000I guess they're just kind of subtly not telling you the guys that make 16 bucks an hour at McDonald's are going to have to pay your taxes for me to get my student loans paid.
01:01:36.000I mean, fortunately, I'm not in that bracket now.
01:01:39.000Well, so what happened is I got an email from the department.
01:01:41.000He's not even doing it with his mouth.
01:01:45.000That said, we think the Supreme Court got it wrong, this is like four days ago or something, so we're going to do it anyway, but we're going to do it with people that are making up to $65,000 a year or something like that.
01:01:55.000If you don't want it, opt out, but otherwise we're just going to do it.
01:01:58.000Well, I think part of this for Biden is it's a make or break issue for him because he campaigned so hard on, I will get your student loans forgiven, right?
01:02:09.000We're getting close to election season and he needs to make progress on this issue.
01:02:13.000Otherwise, a lot of his young voter base is going to say, but you said you'd pay off my debt and you didn't.
01:02:18.000I mean, I have never understood how Joe Biden is a viable candidate for Democrats anyways, but it's important to note how big of an issue this was.
01:02:26.000This was a deciding factor for young voters.
01:02:29.000Understandably so, because I don't disagree with Chambliss.
01:02:31.000On the other hand, the reality is if you have tons of student loan debt because you were
01:02:34.000told, hey, go take out a loan, pay for education, and it'll all work out and you are feeling
01:02:40.000the consequences of that, I would also be looking for a way to get out of this, right?
01:03:28.000But I paid about £9,000 a year, plus a maintenance loan that's means-adjusted, so about £4,000.
01:03:34.000So I've left with about £40,000 in debt in total.
01:03:37.000And we pay that back over the course of about 30 years.
01:03:39.000We won't pay it back until we're about 50.
01:03:41.000And what they want to do is get you into the institution which engenders a certain kind of managerial mindset.
01:03:46.000It's a self-propagating managerial class, like James Burnham would have talked about.
01:03:50.000And then you're sort of imbibed intersectionality, and you become the perfect kind of compliant corporate drone who says whatever they can to get ahead.
01:03:58.000And what Biden wants here is to create a dependent class, both they want to vote him in so they
01:04:03.000can alleviate the debt, and if you have a lot of debt, then of course you want the big
01:04:06.000government to come and manage the economy to get rid of it, and also self-propagate
01:04:09.000more people going to university so they're not as scared about racking up all this debt
01:04:12.000so then they're more compliant with Zedix in the future.
01:04:14.000It's a genius self-propagation strategy.
01:04:18.000No wonder the Democrats want to push it.
01:04:19.000I think it is also interesting, this idea of getting people massively in debt to the
01:04:24.000point where they don't have the kind of economic leverage that they ordinarily would without
01:04:29.000also giving them some kind of property to show for it.
01:04:40.000Ultimately, I don't agree with it for the reasons I laid out earlier.
01:04:42.000you make way more money with the degree, people who are making less money
01:04:45.000shouldn't have to pay your degree off, you still generally end up making way more
01:04:48.000over the course of your life than the degree ends up costing
01:04:52.000but that said, I believe in property ownership, I believe that one of the best economic strategies
01:04:59.000is to create the conditions for the largest amount of people
01:05:03.000to have property as is possible so that everyone has a stake in the system,
01:05:07.000everyone does actually have a material stake in the future as well.
01:05:11.000I think when you're a nation of renters, it becomes a lot more difficult to get people to care
01:05:15.000about a neighborhood or a region and this is also part of why it's so insidious
01:05:20.000that organizations like BlackRock and a lot of these investor buyers have been swooping in
01:05:25.000and getting all of the real estate in this country and driving prices up for residential owners
01:05:30.000and so I'm sympathetic to the argument even though I don't agree with student loan forgiveness.
01:05:34.000That we have effectively created a class of people who have the worst of both worlds.
01:05:37.000They're heavily in debt, so they lack leverage, but they also don't, along with that debt, have the leverage that comes along with property ownership.
01:05:53.000Yep, we only build 200,000 homes a year.
01:05:55.000We have net intake of 1.1 million immigrants, plus the people that are battery farming in these hotels.
01:06:00.000Migration Watch UK has estimated that because, and this is the Office for National Statistics that have found that migration is the leading cause of population increase in the UK, because we've got a sub-replacement birth rate, as do most places.
01:06:13.000I spoke to Stephen Shaw, a documentary filmmaker, and he said that this is one of the main reasons why people are delaying having kids.
01:06:18.000It's because they're spending up until their mid-twenties, their peak fertility years, in universities.
01:06:21.000But Migration Watch found that by 2046, the rated population increase that the UK is experiencing will have to have 15 to 18 new cities the size of Birmingham to accommodate that.
01:06:32.000And the reason they're not building it, and this is the final point, is that 25% of the Conservative Party's donors are property developers.
01:06:39.000So they have the perverse incentive to both keep prices high enough that they're making a return on investment but then keep a steady stream of inflated demand so they keep building these terrible new houses that are unfit for living and are basically just knocked up new builds where the garden fences are like that.
01:06:54.000So it's the worst of both worlds in my country.
01:06:56.000Yeah, I'd also like to mention one more thing, which is that Biden's student loan repayment changes could cost around $475 billion.
01:07:05.000We've been talking a lot about the negative economic impact in an abstract, though valid, way.
01:07:10.000However, these are the material figures.
01:07:28.000And I think that's partially because, in my opinion, the Democrat Party relies on fixing things in the immediate short term to maintain power, and they just kick the problems down the line.
01:07:39.000In fact, they're more likely to blame someone else, right?
01:08:10.000And increasingly, they say, well, if you really want to make more money, you should get a master's degree.
01:08:14.000So that's an additional one to two years, right?
01:08:17.000And well, let's not forget about the medical professions and going to law school.
01:08:20.000So you're in school forever, creating intense debt and also being reliant on a system.
01:08:26.000I think that the American education system needs a complete overhaul that encourages independent thought because it should encourage self-dependence and self-reliance.
01:08:37.000I think that is ultimately what I don't like, and it's why it's important you have these conversations about, well, if you don't go to college, what are your options?
01:08:43.000And in America, we desperately need people to go into the trades, which you can have a successful living without taking on debt, and in some ways have a more free life, right?
01:08:51.000If you are shackled to student debt, you have to be conscious of that in how you financially plan for your life, even though you have this high-paying degree.
01:09:00.000Whereas if you are able to start making significant amounts of money at a young age, imagine all the things that you could do and the investments you can make and the changes that you could have.
01:09:08.000Yeah, if you want to work on the, if you want to be an electrician, you can also be a YouTuber.
01:09:12.000You can be an artist and a craftsman now in this world and you can make a lot of money and you don't need to go to school for it.
01:09:47.000What happened was I have a podcast on Rumble called Shamer.
01:09:51.000There was another YouTube channel that was pirating all of our content and uploading it without our permission.
01:09:56.000We've been trying to flag them to get them taken down because we have our own Shamer channel on YouTube that we are posting clips to and it's been overshadowed in the algorithm by this imposter.
01:10:05.000And so myself and many people were kind of flagging to try to get it, you know, to bring it to YouTube's attention.
01:10:14.000And so I just flagged some of their content and then YouTube did take some of it down.
01:10:21.000and because I was able to prove that this is content that was mine originally that came from my rumble channel and
01:10:26.000then we flagged some more of it and what happened was in by we are I mean me I just sat at my computer and flagged a
01:10:33.000couple more videos in and just show that they were uploaded without my permission where they came from
01:10:38.000originally they were the exact same videos exact same titles exact same links not mirrored or anything like that
01:10:45.000and YouTube said that the claims were fraudulent and that it was removing all of the channels associated with the
01:10:52.000channel that I made the claim from So I got an email for every YouTube channel that I run from that email address that had been taken down, and it didn't mention Freedom Tunes.
01:11:01.000And Freedom Tunes is still up, but all related channels are deleted, and I cannot log into Freedom Tunes.
01:11:05.000Every single time I try to, there's no interface for me to do anything.
01:11:09.000It just takes me back to my other Google accounts.
01:11:11.000So I've reached out to the people at Google to see if we can get this fixed.
01:11:15.000I've reached out to the people at YouTube.
01:11:17.000I tweeted about it a little bit earlier today.
01:11:19.000Let's hope and pray that we're able to get this sorted out.
01:11:22.000My favorite part of this was YouTube responded to you on Twitter saying, no, no, you don't understand, you just have to take down your fraudulent content.
01:11:29.000And I was like, yeah, I was like, it's my content!
01:11:31.000I was like, no, you don't understand, like, I was accused of making a false copyright claim when I didn't.
01:11:36.000The claim was like blatantly, blatantly true.
01:11:40.000Like, I posted my video on Rumble, which was identical to the video this person posted on YouTube a day later and had the same title and was the exact same content.
01:11:49.000All I can see... So yeah, we're locked out of Freedom Tunes right now because of all this.
01:11:52.000All I can see is if you flag the same video from three different accounts, they're like, hey, you can only flag it from one account.
01:11:58.000No, but yeah, but that's not what happened.
01:12:01.000So I was using, the channel was Eclipse Channel for my Shamer podcast, and I flagged it from there because that seemed to be the most appropriate channel to do it from since that's the one that was being overshadowed in the algorithm by this other Shamer channel.
01:12:14.000And yeah, they said all the other channels linked to it were being removed.
01:12:17.000Open it up, guys, because he's been stressed.
01:12:20.000Do you think they were just punishing you for having Rumble exclusive?
01:12:23.000I don't know about that because it also affected my Freedom Tunes channel and you're right that that could still be a punishment.
01:12:29.000I don't want to assume that this was like politically motivated or malicious.
01:12:41.000I don't know if they have an AI algorithm doing this.
01:12:43.000If they do, I still think it's really remarkable that it would consider this claim fraudulent, considering it is the exact same video, both places, uploaded a day before on my channel.
01:12:53.000And also, oh, by the way, this channel that was uploading my stuff, now they just uploaded a full Steven Crowder video.
01:12:58.000So I don't know how much more obvious it has to be that a channel is fake and pirating content.
01:13:02.000But it's still up there, and my channels are all taken down, and we can't get into Freedom Tunes.
01:13:22.000Yeah, so I thought that you wouldn't be here, and actually the show would get the raw end of the deal of the Irish Catholic Exchange Program.
01:13:27.000I'm glad we're both in the same room together.
01:13:30.000That's right, Tim would send his Irish Catholic away over to England and then you guys would get one back here.
01:13:35.000Now, we're both in the same room together because I sent Tim away.
01:13:38.000I want to just, before we move on to the next topic, I want to tap out on student loans because what I think the biggest problem is that One, it's not cool to go tax a bunch of people that aren't asking for it to pay off my loans.
01:13:52.000It's also not cool to print a bunch of money without anybody's authority because it diminishes all of our purchasing power, makes the dollar worth 98 cents or 96 cents or whatever.
01:14:29.000I think there are a lot of problems with interest, especially compounding interest.
01:14:33.000I understand that because we have a economy and a government that's always inflating its own currency, that interest does become necessary to issue loans.
01:14:40.000But I agree with you, like the compounding interest stuff, the idea of just making absorbent amounts of money off of these loans, especially when they're federally guaranteed, just seems entirely backwards to me.
01:14:49.000The government's guaranteeing these loans?
01:14:50.000I don't know how you can make the same justification.
01:14:52.000It would seem to me that in that situation, what you would have to do if the loan was federally guaranteed is ensure that the only kind of interest imposed would be
01:15:10.000but where they weren't able to profit immensely off of something where they
01:15:14.000really don't have any risk because the government has told them that they're
01:15:17.000going to get the money back regardless. If I can make one small point on
01:15:20.000perverse profit incentives over in the UK side we don't have the same level of interest on our loans as
01:15:26.000you guys do and they're not But what we do have is universities, knowing that their budget is government guaranteed, running up a massive debt.
01:15:33.000And so what they do is, because foreign students pay much more, they mass import students from China and India, mainly the very wealthy students over there that can pay up front, And then, they build loads of student accommodation, rather than the houses we were talking about, that charge exorbitant prices, so what ends up happening is, native British students, even though they're paying less, they're getting less quality education, they're competing for the same spots, and they're getting lower quality student accommodation, and even their student accommodation is more expensive, because it's scarce.
01:16:02.000So, I just think running the universities as a for-profit enterprise hasn't gone as well as some would hope.
01:16:09.000There's a similar problem that actually happens with state schools in the U.S.
01:16:13.000If you're born in a specific state, if you're a resident of that state, you live there your whole life, you are able to get a discount on a tuition.
01:16:19.000So, of course, they have an economic incentive to accept more students from out of state because they're going to end up paying the full tuition price without ever, you know, having to give that discount.
01:16:31.000And speaking of hunting for discounts, we know, oh, certain special somebody.
01:17:24.000But yeah, so the trip was caught on camera.
01:17:26.000I believe this is the third time, or at least he's been accused three times of taking suitcases from women and then wearing their clothing wrong.
01:17:37.000So it wasn't enough that he was on a taxpayer-funded trip, he also had to get free luggage.
01:17:42.000So I guess one question I have is, does this guy just not pack a bag before he goes on these trips?
01:17:46.000And maybe the reason that he's ended up just wearing different clothing isn't just self-expression, as he would put it, but this is what's in the luggage.
01:17:55.000You just get luggage from the airport, and then you put the clothes on, and the clothing that was in the luggage...
01:18:00.000How much is he stealing to continually find clothes that fit?
01:18:03.000Like, is he just playing a numbers game, or is he doing the Buffalo Bill thing of where he'll go, are you about size 14?
01:18:11.000I have no idea, but I don't think he's spending all that much time thinking about the luggage he gets, because there was a hilarious story a little while ago, Hannah Clare and I were talking about this before we went on air, but it was basically determined that the clothing that he was wearing was clothing which came from the suitcase of a woman who was a fashion designer.
01:18:30.000Yeah, so she had made a bunch of different beautiful dresses for a fashion expo.
01:18:36.000She went from Tanzania, or she's from Tanzania originally.
01:18:38.000Yeah, she's based in Houston, she's Tanzanian, and traveled to D.C., was supposed to show her clothes as sort of a business deal for her, and couldn't do it because her bag went missing at Reagan Airport.
01:18:51.000When she heard about Sam Brinton's arrest, she said, I'm gonna look this up and recognize the clothes that he has been wearing because they're not just run-of-the-mill, you can get them at the Gap.
01:19:03.000Meanwhile, she went on Twitter for this and I was just like, I was shortly thereafter contacted by the FBI who was like, please give us more information.
01:19:11.000And then after that, I don't know if they're actually connected, but Sam Burton was arrested as a fugitive from justice.
01:19:17.000He lives in Maryland because he works for DC, in connection to someone's luggage going missing from a DC airport.
01:19:25.000And I find this to be so funny, because what were the odds?
01:20:22.000He's like, you go to the airport, you wait for two hours standing in line, taking your shoes off, taking your bag out, and then when you get out of the airport, you get all done.
01:20:45.000I hear you, but please don't give them any motivation to make the airport more of a hassle.
01:20:50.000I think the baggage thing is us saying, this is a price we are willing to pay to just not have to deal with the TSA anymore, not have to deal with any more bureaucracy.
01:20:59.000But we didn't even need that level of bureaucracy when we were a higher trust society and when we started mainstreaming degeneracy and importing incompatible cultures where higher trust is not that same thing.
01:21:10.000And so you need increasing levels of bureaucracy to micromanage the behaviours of a dependent population.
01:21:14.000And I would agree with you, but it's not even just that.
01:21:16.000I mean, these bureaucracies aren't even effective at combating what they're there to protect us from.
01:21:22.000The TSA has failed, like, 98% of its audits to try to prevent... Well, because they're staffed by incompetent diversity hires like this, so fortunately they decide to out themselves, I mean...
01:21:32.000I'm sorry, he is one of our leading nuclear minds in this country?
01:21:35.000I don't know what you're talking about.
01:21:37.000He lost all his hair from the radiation poisoning.
01:21:39.000No, I mean, I think it's worth pointing out that you were saying before, is he just following people around and guessing that they're his size?
01:21:46.000He is specifically looking for female luggage.
01:21:50.000One of the examples was he stole a duffel bag, what I believe was Vera Bradley.
01:21:54.000If you know Vera Bradley, it's all very feminine prints.
01:21:57.000This person is specifically targeting women to steal from them.
01:23:06.000It probably is a family-friendly show, but I just find it interesting that the thing that is associated with the spread of monkeypox was like the one thing that we were not willing to prohibit because we believe so deeply in human freedom and political liberty when we were willing to tell people not to go to their jobs or to visit loved ones in the hospital or attend funerals for loved ones during the COVID pandemic.
01:23:26.000It just shows you where the priorities of the regime are.
01:23:30.000I mean, I think it's worth noting, we sort of talked about this before the show, but Sam Perton is Openly, I don't know, gender fluid, all sorts of interesting hobbies.
01:23:40.000He was featured in like a kink magazine.
01:23:42.000I find it not at all surprising that this person is clearly not bound by any social norms or values.
01:24:05.000This last, like, moment of trust that we all take our own bags off the carousel does not apply to him because he doesn't need to be a part of that.
01:24:12.000And it's hard for me not to read a level of entitlement into this.
01:24:24.000Every now and again, I get that there are barriers that need to be broken down, right?
01:24:27.000You know, I like the idea of Chesterton's fence.
01:24:29.000When you find a fence, figure out what it was for before you tear it down.
01:24:32.000And sometimes, you know, maybe that fence is for something bad and it's okay to tear it down.
01:24:35.000I'm not saying no one should ever defy expectation.
01:24:37.000But what I am saying is when someone is defying expectations, when they are tearing down fences that very clearly have a person, of course there's a sense of entitlement there.
01:24:43.000Do you guys know what happened to Sam Britton or what his status is right now?
01:24:48.000He got arrested at his home in Maryland most recently.
01:24:50.000So, with the bag stolen in Vegas, he was convicted, he had to pay a fine.
01:24:57.000In Minnesota, a similar thing, brought up on charges, there was a fine, but also he had to undergo mental health evaluations as part of sort of a deal to lessen the charges against him.
01:25:08.000I haven't gotten an update on what happened with the arrest in Maryland, which is connected to the DC airport, which presumably is this woman in Houston, unless there are more missing bags that we don't know about.
01:25:19.000He said he fled, he was a fugitive of justice at some point?
01:25:25.000That was what he was arrested under and I'm not sure how they're interpreting it.
01:25:28.000I'm surprised he had to undergo a mental health examination because I can just take one look at him and see he's clearly sane.
01:25:33.000I think that's why, they're like how could such a sane healthy individual like you get into stealing bags?
01:25:41.000So we actually in Britain have had two recent scandals of married men with children who have been on TV stations for a very long time.
01:25:49.000One was a news reader, the other one hosted a daytime TV show.
01:25:53.000They have claimed mental health scares once they've been caught trying to solicit photos or hook up with young men of teenage questionable age.
01:26:18.000And what they end up doing is they retreat into saying, one, it's homophobic, to criticize this, and two, I've been checked into the hospital for a mental health emergency.
01:26:26.000So we're going to leave this story alone for a while.
01:26:29.000This is another important part of it, right?
01:26:31.000I mean, look, no one is making the argument that every single person who struggles with any kind of perversion is trying to attack children, but the reality is, if you have they-them pronouns next to your name, any predatory behavior that you engage in is going to be defended by the media and by the left, and anyone who points out that you're doing something suspicious is going to be labeled a bigot.
01:26:51.000But at some point you have to action speak for themselves.
01:27:03.000Like, no, man, if you, if you, if, if something you didn't, this is goes for leadership as well.
01:27:07.000If something you did causes maybe a surrender in Afghanistan and the death of children and, and people trying to flee the country being beheaded, like you're on the hook for that.
01:27:16.000You can't just be like, Oh, I was 85 years old.
01:27:43.000I think there's an argument to be made that because of his steeply declined mental health that people in his family probably bear a Why would you even say that?
01:28:26.000Yeah, well, this is... I think that's literally confirmed that... Did they actually literally confirm that... They found some people haven't been taken off the votes rolls, yes.
01:28:35.000Well, I mean, I think ultimately with this story about Sam Burton, I'm gonna go back to it, is we know that we should have compassion for people who are struggling mentally or emotionally, right?
01:28:45.000But that doesn't mean that we have to excuse this behavior, right?
01:28:50.000Or, in this case, think that anything about what's happening is normal.
01:28:54.000And I think that's one of the reasons that really I see this story most reported by more conservative-leaning outlets because You know, it drives home all the points of, look at this bizarre person who clearly does not respect any sort of traditional or conservative values, who would probably denounce them all, and this is one of the consequences.
01:29:12.000In fact, this is a seemingly mild consequence because it doesn't really involve violence, right?
01:29:16.000It's theft, it's terrible, but on the other hand, you know, we have seen more devastating results from people who are unstable in recent history.
01:29:30.000This idea that we're seeing a violation of trust, the idea that you would get to take your own bag home from the airport, should serve as evidence that perhaps if we don't have a strong moral foundation that we all agree to and adhere by, that everything starts to fall apart.
01:29:46.000And I'm sure we all agree on that point.
01:29:48.000And when you look at someone like this particular character, a lot of the other people who have been pointed to positions in government lately or even elected, you kind of have to wonder how something like that could possibly have happened.
01:29:59.000Of course, that's a rhetorical question.
01:30:01.000We all know about the cultural changes that have occurred over the past several decades and the pressure that the media has put on average people.
01:30:06.000But we've rerouted our thinking towards saying, It is mean, it is hurtful, it is terrible, and it is unacceptable to ever place someone in an outgroup on the basis of the way that they act, the way that they choose to dress.
01:30:18.000Here's the thing, when you have a representative democracy, it's important that political leaders Represent you?
01:30:47.000And that's the perverse incentive to appoint people who are well outside the norm, because they have a stake in the regime protecting them at all times, and going along with a very permissive, progressive orthodoxy.
01:30:57.000Man, I'm very concerned with the levels of crime increases, with the economy, inflation and stuff.
01:31:03.000I'm not into authoritarian crackdown in any way, but at some point, Well, I shouldn't say in any way.
01:31:09.000There have been instances where countries have uprisings and they have to have some sort of authoritarian crackdown on the uprising to preserve the country, but I don't want that.
01:31:47.000And then it turns out once you crack down on the criminal element, your country improves.
01:31:51.000Yeah, absolutely, and I'll mention this, Ian, you've got to be careful with that, and I think maybe you're putting too much pressure on what you're supporting with the use of this term, authoritarian.
01:31:59.000You're saying, well, maybe we need authoritarian crackdowns.
01:32:01.000Well, who says a crackdown is always authoritarian?
01:32:03.000If people are rioting in the streets and burning down innocent people's businesses, then they're the authoritarians, and civil authorities are just stepping in to promote the rights of the people who are being harmed by the the rioters but we're gonna head over to super chats right now so everybody please smash that like button share this video become a member at timcast.com so you can join us in the after show at 10 10 where viewers will be calling in live to talk with us
01:32:28.000So we have from Waffle Sensei, Tim, if you're listening, blink twice if you're in danger.
01:32:35.000He may take your spoons, he may take your beanie, but he will never take your freedom.
01:32:39.000Firstly, why would you be asking him to blink twice when you can't even see him?
01:34:16.000He obviously thinks you're the most base person here, and he's wrong.
01:34:18.000So that's funny, because someone else today, a certain Roland Ratt on Twitter, pseudonym of an academic named Nima Parvini, he said my colleague Harry was the most base person.
01:34:28.000And I did get my back up about that, so myself and the Northern Monkey himself will be dueling it out, I'm sure.
01:34:33.000At your office, instead of having Employee of the Month, do you have, like, Base Person of the Month?
01:34:39.000So there is a Discord channel that used to exist called Josh's Based Takes, from which I will not read out because I will not incriminate my friend, but I think Josh might have had a monopoly on that for quite a while.
01:34:48.000Dude, how's Lotus Eaters going, by the way?
01:34:50.000Like, do you guys have any public plans coming up?
01:34:52.000So we've just moved to new studios, so that's really cool.
01:34:54.000We've just unveiled that because beforehand, A bit of behind the scenes.
01:34:58.000It was just one room, and we had a curtain separating our filming stuff, so as soon as we were recording, the lights would go off and every writer was in the room, had to be silent because it was all open plan office.
01:35:07.000Now we've got two new studios, one's a bit of a library, one's the five-person roundtable, it's really cool.
01:35:12.000We might do a third one, we'll see what we cobble together.
01:35:15.000And then future expansion plans, there might be some stuff in the works, but now we're just really glad that we get to record more concurrent content, more hosts, and I believe Stelios Karl and Bo did a discussion on the Epic of Gilgamesh which was four hours the other day.
01:35:28.000So that's the kind of stuff we're going to do going forward.
01:35:30.000Is this what you saw yourself doing when you went into debt for your university degree?
01:35:36.000I wasn't really sure because I didn't really get into politics until my second year.
01:35:40.000And what ended up happening was I was finding myself arguing with all of the other seminar participants that bothered to show up and the seminar leader when I thought I was stating observable truths.
01:35:48.000And we actually had, and I don't think I've told this story before, so this should be fun.
01:35:54.000Yeah, yeah, yeah, well I won't incriminate myself.
01:35:56.000We had invited, as part of the Student Society, we have like a Students for Liberty chapter, so very tepid, very free speech.
01:36:01.000We'd invited my current boss, Carl Benjamin, to speak and Antifa, Well, the Feminist Society showed up in coordination with the student union who were elected at the time, and this was published in the student newspaper, to quote, bait them into being abusive to start fights to shut the society down.
01:36:15.000My then-girlfriend had her work called to try and get her fired, they spray-painted and defaced the side of the sports stadium, they made threats when we had an Israeli and Palestinian ambassador show up at the first UK university to do that, and then they decided to get into our group chat and fabricate screenshots of edgy jokes to make us look really bad.
01:36:34.000And so we got sat in front of a university tribunal, free speech tribunal, where genuinely the diversity inclusion coordinator had brought up quotes from Der Stormer saying, oh, the Nazis use humor to recruit their members, so that's what you guys have been doing.
01:36:45.000And the person that was chairing that particular tribunal um was one of the student union members that had tried to start the fight on campus so conflict of interest completely overblown we got chewed out for it so then after that um my friend decided to set up a little think tank thing trying to tell the uk government they were spending too much money on environmental policy i joined that i wrote a little bit on the side and then i abandoned the government thing because they barely listened to me they listened once and then not the rest of it frustrating and then just sort of went into commentary and tv and whatnot accidentally uh so yeah long story short
01:37:19.000So, other than him coming to the university campus, I went to university with Callum.
01:37:25.000And so, Callum and I have known each other for a few years.
01:37:28.000But I went to a Load Caesars live event, and Karl had, like, a bit of an adverse first impression of me, but I started telling stories, and he was like, oh, you're alright, actually, you're not much of a knob as I thought.
01:37:38.000And then, so, I got invited as a guest, just to do a sort of guest podcast.
01:37:42.000It was meant to be with a former employee, but he wasn't showing up for the day, so.
01:37:45.000So I ended up doing one with Callum, and then Carl just went to me, oh, do you want to come and get a cup of tea, have a chat?
01:37:49.000And I was like, yeah, yeah, thanks for bringing me.
01:37:50.000And he just went, so when do you start?
01:37:52.000So that was, yeah, that was really cool.
01:37:53.000Yeah, they didn't even have to interview for it, and I'm very thankful.
01:39:04.000I think this is one of the things that we should be most irritated and most infuriated about about modern culture, which is you'll get articles from Teen Vogue that say, this is how you comfort your friend after she gets an abortion.
01:39:15.000It's obviously targeted to young women in their 20s probably, even younger, it's teen
01:39:19.000Vogue, and they act like there are no consequences to this decision. Ultimately, you're gonna be
01:39:24.000happy you did it because your life is messed up by the results of decisions you made. And I think that is
01:39:49.000And then they accuse us of being emotionally manipulative for wanting to show people ultrasounds, which literally just show you a picture of what the child whose life you're contemplating ending looks like.
01:41:11.000Yeah, so he's building an empire both at Lotus Caesars and at home.
01:41:14.000And yeah, so hopefully he will be able to come over either later in the year or early next year and you guys will get the preferred candidate.
01:41:25.000We have from nosoupfornolescamefortim... Who the EFF is this guy?
01:41:31.000So, for those of you who don't know, Nosoupfornoles is an unbelievably terrible woman who does the voices for the female characters in Freedom Tunes.
01:42:20.000Phil Labonte, you know, does Jiu Jitsu a little bit.
01:42:22.000I won't, not, you know, a little bit, but he's actually been having, I think he said he had a knee injury from it a month ago, a few months ago, which is a pain in the ass, so.
01:42:29.000You know, one step at a time, but I'd have to cut my hair, I think.
01:42:32.000I'm not comfortable going in there and grappling with long hair.
01:43:39.000I don't know if you'll be able to pull up a photo of it, Serge, but it's, like, a big, podgy man, poorly, crudely drawn, and he'll say very basic things that, like, anyone with sense would agree with.
01:43:49.000It's, like, you know the theologian and the... I think I've seen this meme, yeah.
01:46:14.000That's anecdotal, but that's concerning if that's true.
01:46:16.000That is how the NHS management staff are run.
01:46:19.000The diversity inclusion coordinators over there go for 70,000 to 80,000 pounds salaried a year.
01:46:26.000The NHS, by the way, just to dismantle any romanticism about universal healthcare and how it normally plays out to an American audience, we have an exponentially increasing budget that can never meet demand, and the amount that we spend on bureaucracy is hellish, and so there's this trickle-up effect.
01:46:45.000Like, thousands of pounds painting rainbow crosswalks outside of the hospitals every year.
01:46:53.000How do they know they're gonna be safe at that hospital?
01:46:56.000The rainbow sidewalks, I'm convinced they're only there so that the lefties can have their persecution complex validated every single time there's a skid mark on it.
01:47:03.000Like, why would you put your sacred symbolism on a street?
01:47:06.000Also, how can you be the minority group if we're painting your group symbol on something like this?
01:47:13.000It literally makes absolutely no sense.
01:47:15.000That's what I find so exhausting is trying to, like, grapple with the logic or their lack of logic from the other side, because I do feel obligated to sort of consider where someone would be coming from.
01:47:25.000But at a certain point you have to just say, like, you know you don't make sense, right?
01:47:28.000Not because I mean, it's just that you don't make any sense.
01:48:11.000But they consider the people they rule over less than a feudal lord would have consideration for his peasants.
01:48:17.000And we still have an aristocracy to an extent.
01:48:20.000I mean, the House of Lords is still appointed as peerages by the Prime Minister, and they're very rich people in that.
01:48:26.000They get final say on legislation and whatnot.
01:48:29.000It's just that a lot of the aristocracy are captured by progressive ideals, so they don't even have the old class dynamic anymore.
01:48:34.000Yeah, no, I think that's interesting and there's definitely something to that.
01:48:37.000One thing I love, which Hans Hermann Hoppe said, is that part of what democracy does is it eliminates class consciousness, right?
01:48:45.000So people who are lower on the authority hierarchy don't really see themselves as separate from their leaders because they've gotten to choose them.
01:48:52.000Like, make no mistake, you are in separate classes.
01:48:55.000You are absolutely in separate classes.
01:48:57.000And I agree with you that not every mechanism, like the idea that every mechanism within government being based on consent is what makes it functional is absolutely nonsensical.
01:49:06.000Obviously, there are certain people who are unappointed bureaucrats, and I have issue with that if you're in a nation which prides itself on being democratic.
01:49:12.000But ultimately, what's important is that we have laws that help a man reach his final end, which help a man to live virtuously, have a good life, be able to provide for his family, the things that actually matter to people.
01:49:25.000ThinkOnThis says, as a former university employee, I say raid the university endowments to pay off student loans.
01:49:32.000Who do you think benefited from lying to people about the positives of 1. higher education and 2. taking out loans?
01:49:38.000Okay, so here's where I'm going to disagree with you on this.
01:49:41.000For as much as I am sympathetic to making the colleges pay for this, if you raid that What you're essentially doing is taking the money that people who have already paid off their debt financed and then giving it to people who haven't paid off their debts.
01:49:54.000If you're going to redistribute the endowments, if you're going to redistribute the money that these universities got, it actually makes more sense to redistribute that money to college-educated people who already paid off their loans.
01:50:03.000Is there any university in America that, because a lot of endowments are generated through fundraising through alumni, are there any colleges in America that say to their alumni, hey, you could donate directly to someone's student loan debt?
01:50:16.000Instead of scholarships, why don't we just say, like, you could give me $10,000 and we will actually give it to the kid who's in $10,000 worth of student loan debt.
01:50:24.000Right, I don't understand why it's always, you know, I understand the point of scholarships, and I understand, although I don't always agree with why universities fundraise, but if we wanted to have a forgiveness program, wouldn't it be interesting to have, you know, the alumni of a school say, the student has taken out loans, they seem to be performing well academically, I want to pay off their loan.
01:50:42.000And the schools that get- Why are we having this third party- The ones that have more repayments through that kind of process would have more people applying to them.
01:50:51.000And there would be an expectation that when you became, if you were an alumni in a position where it was financially viable, you would then contribute in a similar way.
01:51:08.000Then that's the thing, even though, as I mentioned, a person ends up making more as a result of having a college education, I still think degrees are massively overpriced, and so the fact that you'd pay more for something than you should have, and then they would ask you for more money is totally wild.
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01:52:39.000But I think there's actually credibility to this theory that I'm being falsely punished for crimes that I did not commit because Tim Pool, this is, you know what, I'm gonna have to talk to the Daily Beast about this one.
01:52:51.000Last week I saw Seamus emerge from the basement.
01:52:54.000Actually, I didn't see you emerge, I just saw you emerge from where the basement is.
01:55:19.000I know we haven't touched on Ukraine at all and I'm no foreign policy expert, but my position on it is I'm a little Englander and I don't want to pay for either country.
01:55:26.000That's just a radical take, I suppose.
01:56:36.000But I can tell that if the revival is going to come from somewhere, it's definitely going to come from here first.
01:56:40.000And because you guys still have a deep sense of social texture, even in deep blue Massachusetts, there was a two-to-one ratio of national flags to pride flags.
01:56:48.000There is still latent Christianity here.
01:56:50.000I mean, I'll paraphrase Nietzsche, who I don't like.
01:56:52.000But he was right in that if God is considered dead culturally, then the great cathedrals of Europe will become the sepulchres and mausoleums to a dead idea.
01:57:00.000And that is largely what has unfortunately happened with both the hollowing out of the congregations in the UK, and also, like, the Archbishop of York coming out and saying the Lord's Prayer is patriarchal and oppressive.
01:57:49.000That is the only thing that I have experienced.
01:57:50.000I've had friends who have tried to encourage me to move out here, and this is Hitchin's position being Denethor, you know, flee, flee for your lives, England is lost.
01:58:00.000And it's not that I'm not sympathetic, and I have come to love this country quite a bit, but I just feel like I would be alien were I tried to call anywhere else home.
01:58:08.000So for a little while, I'll stay and fight until I'm pushed out.
01:58:10.000Are the roads in England, are they just old?
01:58:12.000Is that why they're smaller and they don't handle cars very well?
01:58:15.000Yes, we're not a super industrial town.
01:58:39.000maybe having a resurgence or being the country that brings this stuff back, I hope you're right, but it sounds like it's really bad in Europe.
01:58:45.000If you can be in a blue state and say, you know, things are pretty good here.
01:58:51.000So actually, so this is what most people don't understand.
01:58:53.000The Union Jack, there are very few of them, but each country has its own national flag, and the Scottish and Welsh and that, they're Celtic nationalists, so they'll fly theirs.
01:59:01.000England don't fly their national flag.
01:59:03.000And actually, I think she was Shadow Foreign Secretary.
01:59:05.000She might now be the Chief Lawyer of the Labour Party, which is going to be the incumbent government.
01:59:11.000She decided to tweet out a while ago a photo of a council flat with a white van and the English flag hanging outside the window because it was the World Cup or something.
01:59:18.000And I don't know if she explicitly captioned it, disgusting, but I remember that being the vibe.
01:59:22.000And it's the utter contempt the political establishment have for patriotism in our country.
01:59:30.000I think a huge part of that is if you're actually patriotic to your country and you don't blindly obey your political leaders, that's a problem for them.
01:59:37.000Actually having, you know, faith and concern and loyalty for and towards the values of your nation rather than whatever political leader happens to be in power or whatever movement is fashionable is absolutely a no-no.
01:59:51.000The dislike of nationalism sometimes because like we could have a global system of decentralized statehood, like we could just be a United States of Earth where everyone governs themselves locally.
02:00:01.000And then we're all connected through like, you know, laws and internet regulate, but like, decentralized, it could be more decentralized, like we don't have to stop here at nationalism.
02:00:10.000But tech is a homogenising force, that's the point.
02:00:12.000It always has the ratchet effect to greater global surveillance, cultural ubiquity, because it's easier to itemise, and that's why it stratifies people into satiating their individual desires rather than having local, parochial, geographically bound values.
02:00:26.000So, yeah, I'm very sceptical of the possibility of international cooperation to keep together any sort of cultural texture.
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