On today's show, we discuss the latest on the Trump 2020 campaign, the FBI labeling Trump supporters as "extremists," and the possibility of the Trump Organization being taken over by the state of New York. We also hear from Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-GA) about his upcoming trip to Florida. And we hear from Patrick Bet-David, James O'Keefe, and Matt himself.
00:00:45.000I think it would be interesting, and I think considering the political attacks against him, we have news now from Newsweek that a former attorney out of New York is saying that they could auction off, the worst case scenario already happened, the dissolution of the Trump Organization, and the state may actually seize and auction off the properties.
00:01:01.000And I don't know how much that's legit or just some dude being hyperbolic, but it's getting crazy out there.
00:01:12.000But we now have reporting from Newsweek that the FBI has created a new extremist category, and that is Donald Trump's army of MAGA followers.
00:02:25.000So, uh, it might be too late for many of you to actually fly out, uh, if you needed to, but it is an honor and a privilege to have Patrick Bet-David, James O'Keefe, and Matt Gaetz himself.
00:02:49.000Our understanding is Matt will be there.
00:02:50.000And I'm just trying to be as transparent as possible because in the event, Matt Gaetz, who successfully led the ouster of Kevin McCarthy as Speaker, In the event that he has to stay in DC to continue the good work that he is doing, then he's going to.
00:03:02.000And that means he won't be in Florida.
00:03:14.000It is going to be absolutely tremendous to hear from Matt himself discussing exactly how this all went down and his thoughts and his ideas as he has been.
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00:03:51.000Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Mike Benz.
00:04:58.000Hey guys, my name is Luke Herkowski of youtube.com forward slash we are change, and today I am wearing my Biden 2024 shirt with him in a power pose, which you could exclusively get on thebestpoliticalshirts.com and support my independent media organization.
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00:07:01.000Trump comments on whether he would accept House speakership.
00:07:04.000Several House Republicans have nominated the former president for Speaker of the House.
00:07:09.000Trump was nominated for a speakership by several House Republicans after California Rep Kevin McCarthy was ousted.
00:07:14.000And we have this, uh, here, this video from the post-millennial.
00:07:17.000Let's, uh, well, I'll just give you the quote because I don't, we don't need to play the full, you know, 1 minute and 47 second clip.
00:07:23.000All I can say is we'll do whatever's best for the country and for the Republican Party.
00:07:28.000Which is to say, Donald Trump doesn't want to say outright no.
00:07:33.000Which is to say, he would consider taking this position if that's what actually happens.
00:07:37.000I don't think he wants to come out and say, yes, of course, I'm gonna do it, it's gonna be great, because I'm not so sure he actually wants to do it.
00:07:44.000I think he's saying this because he's putting a placeholder in it.
00:07:46.000In the event he has a meeting with several prominent Republicans, and they come out and say, actually, maybe it should be a third party, it should be you, Donald.
00:07:53.000And the funny thing about this is that This was actually a scenario proposed by a lot of people, you know, a year, almost a year ago, or I should say, you know, six or however many months ago, when people were talking about Speaker of the House, people were saying Trump should get a nominated speaker, and this is 2022, it's like a year ago, and then after they impeach Biden and Kamala, he becomes president.
00:08:23.000If you came to me at the very beginning of 2020 and you accurately predicted what the next three years were going to look like, I would have told you that you're completely out of your mind.
00:08:38.000There's also lots of little leverage points from this that are kind of interesting, like you could do it on a temporary basis and then just stack the House Appropriations Committee to zero out the very Justice Department that's in charge of the criminal proceedings.
00:08:55.000Game theory this out, him in a speaker position with people in a caucus who are willing to back him, it could actually throw a monkey wrench in a lot of things that are being done to him.
00:09:10.000And the question is, if they raise the stakes this way, we're already seeing what the Justice Department and FBI are doing the other way.
00:09:19.000I don't know if we're even going to be able to have elections or if it's going to go full Ukraine style if a move like that is attempted by Trump.
00:09:39.000Matt Gaetz was saying that the Republicans were sending everybody home to go cry about it, that it's all about one guy because they've recessed until Tuesday.
00:09:48.000Which, hopefully is good for us for the event on Friday, but Matt's bent out of shape about it, saying they should be doing their jobs and voting on a new speaker, and he's right.
00:09:58.000I wonder what the point of a recess is, to be completely honest.
00:10:10.000They're professional thieves, they're liars, they're con artists, and they're people that should not be trusted with any kind of faith at all.
00:10:17.000So with this news, I think the more likely scenario, I mean, we could all kind of speculate here and talk about Trump being the Speaker of the House, But the most likely scenario here that's going to unfold is that there's probably going to be a lot more infighting.
00:10:30.000There probably won't be a Speaker of the House, and because of that, there's going to be stagnation in Washington, D.C., and that to me is a beautiful thing.
00:10:49.000I think the situation we have right now is the most perfect situation for the American people, and that is a Congress that doesn't have a Speaker and can't act.
00:10:57.000I usually don't agree with everything Luke says.
00:11:00.000I think oftentimes he gets things wrong.
00:11:01.000I think often, even when he says something correct, he says it in such an indecipherably difficult-to-understand way that you can't make heads or tails of it.
00:11:14.000I think you're absolutely right about that.
00:11:16.000I think you're absolutely right about that.
00:11:17.000The problem is the House is the one branch of government right now that Republicans control.
00:11:22.000You're basically defanging the one thing right now that's doing oversight hearings on everything from COVID origins, where it just got released that the CIA was bribing analysts to change their You know, to change their analysis on origins, that they were chauffeuring Fauci around into these secret meetings on it.
00:11:41.000And all this is, on the censorship side, there are so many things like the Jim Jordan subpoena to get all that.
00:11:47.000If you neuter the House, you sort of neuter the resistance to the federal agencies.
00:11:55.000I'm more on the put Trump in there than shut it down thing.
00:11:58.000I think the more likely scenario is that no one's going to be in there and to the point that you brought up, gee, I do wonder why the CIA was bribing analysts to cover up the origin of the sickness that we all had to deal with that Echo Health Alliance and their organization and other seedy parts of the government were involved in as well.
00:12:16.000I wonder why they were trying to cover up exactly what happened to the people of the world with that particular sickness that they had their fingerprints on.
00:12:22.000I just want to mention something, Mike.
00:12:23.000I think you turned me around on this one.
00:12:25.000I agreed with Luke a moment ago, but I think I'm on Team Mike here.
00:12:28.000I would more or less say that your position makes more sense.
00:12:36.000I hadn't considered it when you were speaking.
00:12:38.000My role here is I'm the arms supply in the Ukraine-Russia war here, so just whoever can get the arms on their side to win it, I'm happy to do that.
00:12:46.000But as what Luke, you just said, is really interesting about the relationship between EcoHealth Alliance, because you noted they were involved.
00:13:05.000And, you know, there's there's a lot more on that on that particular thing.
00:13:08.000So is a suggestion that Trump as Speaker of the House would be as ineffective on a lot of core issues?
00:13:16.000It's more like if there's no speaker, then there's really no ability to have committees functioning in an effective way, and some of the pushback right now on the censorship space coming out of the Oversight Committee, judiciary weaponization, household land security, all of that is House-driven, not Senate, not outside, only they can really get access through subpoenas to some of the sensitive documents.
00:13:40.000But people gotta weigh the kind of decisions of what's happening here because a lot of people are very critical of the House, saying specifically they gave Biden an unlimited budget.
00:14:16.000How is it that the Republicans win a majority And it doesn't change.
00:14:23.000It is the same thing as it was under Democrats.
00:14:26.000And that is why it was right for Matt Gaetz to remove Kevin McCarthy.
00:14:29.000At the very least, we get obstruction.
00:14:31.000And if you remember when the Republicans won the House, that's the same exact point we made on this particular show, saying about this particular situation, everyone was celebrating, everyone's like, we did it!
00:14:41.000We got the Republicans in, not by as much as we wanted and thought, but we did it!
00:14:46.000And I'm like, this is going to be irrelevant.
00:14:49.000This is going to be politics as usual.
00:14:51.000And that's exactly what happened until Matt Gaetz got involved and said, you know what?
00:14:56.000I'm actually going to try to represent some of the will of the American people that are discontent and pissed off with Congress screwing them over.
00:15:05.000We kept saying on this show, we want the Republicans to win, more so for the establishment and anti-establishment reasons.
00:15:12.000But even if they do, we realize nothing's going to change.
00:15:15.000And it is, to a certain degree, worse than that.
00:15:18.000What happens is, when Democrats get in, they smash and destroy.
00:15:21.000When Republicans get in, they run secret backroom deals with Democrats to smash and destroy.
00:15:26.000There is no opposition party in this country.
00:15:28.000What the Democrats do is the machine's agenda, and the Republicans are a pressure release valve for Americans who are sick of having the boot stamped all over their face.
00:15:38.000Now you get Matt Gaetz and seven other Republicans who are saying, now we can put some pressure on the system and make these changes, with tremendous, tremendous power, because they're willing to push back on Republicans, on the establishment, on the leadership, and they do, and boy are they all losing their minds.
00:15:56.000You know, look, I like Lauren Boeber, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Thomas Massey, but I've lost a decent amount of respect for them.
00:16:02.000I still like them, they still do good things, but their Illogical defense of Kevin McCarthy.
00:16:09.000They have no justification, and I will spare no one this.
00:16:13.000There is nothing, no logical argument, to the American people who despise Congress to the tune of 82% disapproval, for them to say, we're gonna keep on keepin' on and kick the can down the road.
00:16:25.000The only thing, if I was in Congress, there's no argument you could make.
00:16:29.000Yeah, but we're making small gains here and there, Kevin McCarthy's getting us this, that, I'd be like, nope.
00:16:36.000They're sick of everything, of how this machine is being run, and the Omnibus Spending Bill is basically every single September, Congress spits in the face of the American people and laughs about it.
00:16:48.000And then finally, when someone says, Matt Gaetz and his other seven Republicans, hey, you know what?
00:16:53.000We're going to give a middle finger, at the very least, to the Speaker of the House who wants to maintain this system, because the negotiations work, he wasn't going to do this.
00:17:07.000I don't think you can make an argument to me.
00:17:10.000Maybe you've got insider knowledge, but it doesn't matter to me.
00:17:13.000I'm not in Congress and I don't care other than there is garbage in these omnibus bills, massive funding for ridiculous garbage internationally, funding for war that's never been justified to the American people, And then you say we should be worried about the institution failing.
00:17:32.000We must rebirth that institution and maybe it should be.
00:17:36.000It should fail so that we can go and clean it up and rebuild it.
00:17:41.000Newt Gingrich also had a very interesting response to all of this.
00:17:44.000He's a Bohemian Grove member that came out today and said that what Matt Gaetz did is, quote, childish, and that he should be ousted from Congress.
00:17:51.000And if you look at the people who are outraged by this, you look at CNN, who, surprisingly, is also pissed off at this news.
00:17:58.000They have a very interesting article that's titled, McCarthy became the latest victim of Trump's extreme GOP revolution.
00:18:05.000That makes absolutely no sense at all.
00:18:07.000Donald Trump actually stood behind The speaker of the house, Kevin McCarthy, many times during the original fight for him to be speaker of the house, even just recently.
00:18:17.000And now, more importantly, if you look at all the people freaking out, a lot of them are usually connected to the military industrial complex.
00:18:41.000I don't like Republicans, but I voted for them in 2020 because of Donald Trump, because of his second-term agenda, and because wokeness and the far left and the Democrats have completely lost their minds to the point where it's actually kind of worrying.
00:18:55.000But when Kevin McCarthy works secret backroom deals with Democrats to give them their funding on Ukraine, whatever garbage they want, because they won't just commit to actually debating bills in Congress...
00:19:05.000Well then, you might as well just have Democrats in control once again.
00:19:10.000So I look at Matt Gaetz and the coalition he is leading.
00:19:14.000They represent a new faction of voters.
00:19:17.000Just because GOP or R is slapped on their title does not mean we agree or even like the Republican Party.
00:19:24.000So when Newt Gingrich comes out and says Matt Gaetz should be expelled, No, I say actually Kevin McCarthy should be expelled.
00:19:33.000The shutdown threats, him getting removed from the speakership, it is not the fault of Matt Gaetz.
00:19:40.000If Kevin McCarthy says he wants to be in charge, he wants to be the boss, and then in exchange for leadership, he gives guarantees and then violates those guarantees, he screwed up.
00:19:52.000Well, this is huge, and this is what the media does all the time.
00:19:55.000Whenever a person in a particular position of authority fails to live up to the obligations that they incurred by stepping into that position, the media and the establishment blame those who pointed out that that person failed and then tried to remove them from their position.
00:20:10.000For people losing respect in said position, when of course it's the exact opposite.
00:20:15.000People don't rally behind removing these people from these positions in the vast majority of cases because they themselves decided they wanted to delegitimize this institution or position.
00:20:25.000It's because they're not doing what they're supposed to do.
00:20:27.000So we saw this when Trump attacked the media repeatedly for very good reason, and the response was Donald Trump has undermined American trust in our institutions and not These institutions have undermined trust in themselves and Trump is now giving a voice to that.
00:20:40.000So similarly, Gates pointing out and doing what he could to oust McCarthy does not mean that Gates is responsible for the fact that the American people have lost faith in that institution or pushed him out.
00:20:52.000It's really more a product of McCarthy's own actions catching up to him.
00:20:56.000Did Gingrich give any more reasoning for that in terms of the need to keep McCarthy on?
00:21:06.000Because there is this divide between the stakeholders and the American empire.
00:21:11.000in the interest of the people who live here that is sort of the fault line as I see it
00:21:15.000in the GOP civil war. You have this generations old GOP power base which is tied to the military,
00:21:23.000it's tied to the energy sector, it's tied to the intelligence services and these are folks who,
00:21:28.000you know, from oil companies to military contractors make their money on the expansion
00:21:36.000and protection of assets in foreign lands.
00:21:40.000And sometime around the 90s, there became a very noticeable cleavage between the kind of trickle-down economic ideal of those corporations sort of spilling into the middle class to having this kind of divide between The American homeland and the empire, where the people in the homeland were suffering even as the empire grew and expanded.
00:22:03.000And what we see right now in the Republican wing is you can pretty much tell whether or not somebody voted for or against McCarthy by whether they represent the foreign policy establishment or whether they represent domestic interests.
00:22:16.000The Democrat Party is completely corralled on that front.
00:22:23.000My concern with this is Since I don't fully understand the logic of the McCarthy back, you know, why it is that folks like Gingrich are so insistent on it, I wonder if without compromise to that blob, people are afraid of, you know,
00:22:43.000They don't really have a mafia on their side.
00:22:45.000The Bush wing of the Republican Party, you know, I think protects, there's strong representation in the Justice Department and in the DOD and CIA and State Department.
00:22:54.000There's no representation of that in the populist wing.
00:22:58.000So there's like no protection against attempts to use dirty tricks to kill the careers of Republican, you know, Congress people.
00:23:05.000So I wonder how much of that is appeasement because there is no mob for the populist faction of the GOP.
00:23:14.000Well, Newt does represent more of a kind of rhino establishment-based politics that, of course, is also connected to many secret societies.
00:23:21.000And as he previously even said before, the main kind of problem that a lot of people are seeing with Trump is that he's not a part of some of those same secret societies.
00:23:29.000So, you bring up a very interesting point because There are a lot of populists, but there also is a lot of rhinos, a lot of establishment types, a lot of people who go to the Bohemian Grove, take off their clothes, worship Moloch, and of course have mock child sacrifices that are the good old boys, the good old Republicans, the Christian conservatives that of course value traditional
00:23:50.000Uh, you know, ways, which is, which is kind of ridiculous when you look at the face value of what they're responsible for, because when they had a seat at the table, when, when, uh, when 2001 happened, they had everything.
00:24:07.000And I think there's a huge section of Uh, the populace that realizes, holy cow, like, like these guys, these guys could be just as bad as the Democrats here.
00:24:27.000So I think this is the current predicament that a lot of people are left in, kind of questioning and wondering, where do we go from here?
00:24:33.000Either side we go on, we're kind of screwed here, and the politicians who are going to be put into place are going to be puppets of the establishment that are going to be doing the screwing.
00:24:42.000It's all about the interests of those with money.
00:24:45.000There's supposed to be the will of the people involved in our system, but it's not supposed to be direct democracy.
00:24:50.000But now, we've- we've- I shouldn't say now, but we've been in a system for quite some time, maybe even a hundred years, where it's literally just rule by elites.
00:24:57.000If you have the money, then you make the rules.
00:24:59.000If you're a regular person, your- your ideas don't matter.
00:25:02.000And some may argue that there's a meritocracy in this.
00:25:05.000Like, well, if you- if you work hard enough, and you're smart enough, and you make all that money, well then, you will get an outsized voice.
00:25:34.000Well, you know, he built all these companies, he made lots of money, and then he uses that, you know, what he built and the resources he's gathered to have that influence.
00:25:42.000But our system of government, the neocon neolib establishment, has basically just said we are fine with not allowing anyone of humble means to have a voice, period.
00:25:55.000Yeah, and the fact that they've overturned two and a half centuries of precedent to, you know, basically charge Trump with 750 years.
00:26:03.000And Trump is now winning in the general polls according to Washington Post ABC from, I think, Cenk Uygur had like a freakout over this that they need to be up like 15 points to be able to win in the battleground states.
00:26:17.000Just like an outright general ahead and the guy is facing 750 years in prison.
00:26:24.000This was something that we never even put a toe over that line before.
00:26:29.000And not just him, it's 19, I mean all of his lawyers, they rolled up 19 at once.
00:26:35.000I mean they basically indicted the entire inner circle around that period in January and You know, this is sort of happening around the globe in democracies, at least around NATO now, where it's becoming shockingly common practice to just ban your opposition party.
00:26:54.000And, you know, Imran Khan's arrested, Bolsonaro, they arrested Marine Le Pen, they arrested Salvini.
00:27:01.000Every populist leader There seems to be an immune system with the foreign policy establishment that when a populist leader rises to power for the interests of the people who live there rather than the interests of the international, you know, assets that they hold or resources or investments, then there is a sort of immune system within the Justice Department or within the national security state
00:27:41.000And they're investigating him on a whole bunch of BS ethics garbage.
00:27:45.000And the argument they're making is that Matt Gaetz is only going after Kevin McCarthy because McCarthy won't stop the ethics investigations into Matt Gaetz.
00:27:51.000And that doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense.
00:27:54.000That the reason there are investigations into Matt Gaetz is because he has been continually pushing back against the machine and refusing to play ball.
00:28:01.000Why is it that so many of the supposed anti-establishment Republicans all of a sudden lost their balls and started just dropping to their knees for Kevin McCarthy?
00:28:09.000I have to imagine when they watched the investigations launch into Matt Gaetz, they said, please, I'll do anything you say.
00:28:15.000Because the threat of total shameless weaponization is now very much on the table.
00:28:20.000I think that it was easier to be emboldened and to take on the establishment when you assumed a certain fair play, a sort of, you know, Mark of the Queensbury type thing.
00:28:29.000Like, okay, they're gonna rail me in the press or they're going to go after my donors.
00:28:34.000Not like they're going to physically lock me up and subject me to tens of millions of dollars of legal bills for, you know, jaywalking in my home district.
00:28:44.000Yeah, well I think a lot of this is a product of the fact that the media doesn't have the kind of power that it's traditionally had.
00:28:50.000So in the past, if they did write those hit pieces on you, if they did smear you, if they did tell the American people that you were a big, bad racist, then it was quite possible that your political career, if not being entirely over, was going to be in some substantial way negatively affected by those accusations.
00:29:06.000But as the American people have woken up and seen that the entire press apparatus is controlled by one singular set of interests, And they're going to do whatever they can to keep the people who they're profiting off of being in power, in power, and they're going to smear anyone who's anti-establishment who stands up to them.
00:29:21.000They've realized, okay, this press apparatus isn't actually working for us the way it used to because it no longer has legitimacy and the American people no longer trust it.
00:29:30.000You actually have to take legal action in order to silence dissidents or stop them from running or affecting any substantial political change because you're not able to assassinate them in the court of public opinion anymore.
00:29:42.000It's like as the press power has dipped, the immune system has sort of achieved a kind of static equilibrium by dipping into the prosecution power where the press used to do it.
00:30:04.000The problem with brute force is that it creates more stress on the system.
00:30:08.000You're already losing confidence when you lose your propaganda machine.
00:30:12.000Now when you start locking people up is when people stop believing in your system.
00:30:16.000I was flying, when I was flying to Ukraine actually several years ago, we stopped over in Moscow.
00:30:23.000We, uh, I was flying from the UK to Ukraine, and the only flight we could get was transfer in Moscow and then to, um, to Kiev.
00:30:31.000And the funny thing I noticed is that when you board a plane in, uh, anywhere in the United States, they say, now boarding group one, or actually, depending on the airline, they'll be like, concierge, key, and military, blah, blah, blah, and people with disabilities, then group one, then group two, and what happens?
00:30:46.000Everybody gets up with their group, Some people might try and push their way forward or pretend like they're in a different group.
00:30:51.000Someone in Group 3 might say they're Group 2, but that's typically normal.
00:30:54.000When I was in Russia, just transferring through Moscow, and they said, now boarding Group 1, every single person ran full speed and jammed their way to the front of the gate.
00:31:08.000And I don't know if that's true for all areas, you know, airports in this region or whatever.
00:31:15.000But I wondered if, when you have 70 years, which is several generations under communist rule, where people are mercilessly beaten, the rules don't matter, and if someone doesn't like you they'll lie about you and you'll go to the gulag, in order to survive you must play dirty.
00:31:31.000Those who play dirty to bend the rules were the ones who survived.
00:31:34.000So what, I don't know if this is the case, I just, I thought this, I thought maybe the reason when I'm in Kiev and I'm in Russia they stampede the gate and shove everyone out of the way as opposed to in the US taking their turns is because if you were in the Soviet Union starving to death or in the Holodomor or something like this
00:31:52.000The only way you survived was by grabbing someone else's bread and eating it.
00:31:56.000So they've created generations of people who think, the only way I get ahead is if I shove everyone out of the way.
00:32:01.000And then in the West, we've got a bit more soft and lazy, where it's just like, well, I'll just wait my turn.
00:32:07.000And not always, not everywhere, obviously, crime is skyrocketing.
00:32:12.000And so as we're seeing this happen now in the United States, a fracturing of confidence in the system due to the loss of narrative control and the abuses of the system with no accountability, the only thing they can do is apply more brute force.
00:32:27.000That will result in more people thinking the system illegitimate, which will require more brute force, and then it will break apart.
00:32:35.000So crazy about what you just said is, what you just said is the actual like strategic linchpin Crux of our US counterinsurgency doctrine at DOD, which is when we are occupying a foreign country and we are trying to transition it to a rule of law phase, but it's being destabilized or there's insurgent groups and we need to sort of do a military occupation, get rid of insurgents, there's this
00:33:02.000The strategic end goal is to have a sufficient proportion of the population to perceive the legitimacy of the rule of law system.
00:33:10.000That is when the transition can happen.
00:33:12.000And the problem is the more control you exert on the population, the less the perception of legitimacy if people don't perceive the system is legitimate,
00:33:24.000it raises the cost of occupying because people don't comply.
00:33:27.000They don't submit their taxes on time. They don't trust the courts. They
00:33:31.000hustle in the way that Tim was just saying. But what's really amazing is that
00:33:34.000there are all of these techniques to be able to nudge perceptions of
00:33:40.000This even happened in the 2020 election.
00:33:42.000The DHS fixated on the term de-legitimization for its censorship demands on the social media platforms.
00:33:51.000And when people were banned for talking about mail-in ballots, it was because they strong-armed and jaw-boned the companies to adopt a brand new terms of service violation policy called de-legitimization, which meant anything that undermined the perceived legitimacy of election Outcomes or processes anything about it whatsoever that you thought might be fishy Was considered to be a legitimization threat and they targeted at that level, but this is how the military targets and coerces both physically and psychologically like hostile foreign combatants in in Iraq and in Afghanistan the fact that it's been brought fully back back here is
00:34:32.000It's something that we've been saying was going to happen ever since 2011 inside of the United States when the Republicans said, we need the Patriot Act.
00:34:40.000We need to watch everything you are doing.
00:34:46.000We need to send them over to CIA black sites where they get tortured.
00:34:50.000We need to do this for your safety and well-being.
00:34:52.000And then, of course, myself and a lot of other independent journalists were screaming, hey, this power that they're grabbing right now for themselves, is going to be ultimately used against everyone, and the war on terror has turned into the war on the American people, and it's clear as day.
00:35:10.000It's here, and it is kind of terrifying because it doesn't take a genius to realize that you're not the good guys when you start to arrest your political opponents and lawyers.
00:35:20.000You're not the good guys when you censor speech.
00:35:22.000You're not the good guys when, of course, you use brute force to enforce your political views onto other individuals and then punish anyone who doesn't believe Let's jump to the story from Newsweek.
00:35:41.000Donald Trump followers targeted by FBI as 2024 electioneers.
00:35:46.000I just want to make sure we don't bury the lead right now, and I can tell you that as 2024 begins, the FBI is explicitly targeting opponents of the Democratic Party.
00:36:02.000The federal government believes the threat of violence and major civil disturbances around the 2024 presidential election is so great that it has quietly created a new category of extremists that it seeks to track and counter.
00:36:12.000Donald Trump's army of MAGA followers.
00:36:15.000Donald Trump is the frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination and he is currently leading and favored to win the presidency based on the current polling.
00:36:24.000And they are saying his followers are extremists.
00:36:28.000The FBI and the federal government are right now siding with Democrats and accusing their opposition of being extremists.
00:36:36.000So we recently heard from Mike Cernovich, Scott Adams several years ago, about the risk of what happens when things like this occur.
00:37:28.000Do any of us say, you're extremely in favor of a particular position, or you would employ extreme ends to bring your political goals to fruition, What exactly does it mean?
00:37:37.000And what it boils down to is this is a person who I don't like, who I think is a threat to my agenda in some way, and so I'm going to try to oust them from public life and the public discourse without giving you concrete reasons why.
00:37:48.000Yeah, I mean, I always try to use the term foreign policy establishment when when breaking down these power dynamics for this because this is this is not just the left it's also the the neocon wing of the right and that's what sort of what's at at stake both at the McCarthy thing but a great example of this is the same day this came out Chris Krebs who is the head of the censorship division at DHS who orchestrated the censorship of the 2020 election the tens of millions of posts that were censored because of DHS initiating this whole apparatus he just came out
00:38:22.000As a national security expert and said that Russia's new plan is to target domestic political support for Ukraine to undermine it.
00:38:30.000So that is basically the national security state and Chris Krebs recently partnered with two CIA directors on one of his new council initiatives.
00:38:39.000And he's basically creating a Russiagate predicate for saying if you domestically are against more funding for Ukraine, you are echoing Putin talking points, you're an asset, witting or unwitting, of Russia, and this justifies a counterintelligence predicate at the FBI to investigate you by itself because you are potentially abetting a hostile foreign nation state.
00:39:05.000This is very similar to what Cass Sunstein was writing about under the Obama administration, where he literally wrote a paper saying how if there's any dissident theories about the U.S.
00:39:15.000government and our actions, we have to infiltrate those groups.
00:39:21.000We have to use cone-toe probe-like tactics to make groups attack each other.
00:39:26.000And this really makes you wonder, you know, this was talked about and I think implemented under Barack Obama, who also weaponized information, who also Past made very interesting propaganda laws inside of the United States that could now be used for domestic purposes.
00:39:41.000When we look at all of this, I think we're seeing a lot of the chaos, especially within the Republican Party.
00:39:47.000I think we're seeing a lot of the disarray that we see on social media.
00:39:53.000And I think a lot of it is fake and meant for a particular outcome.
00:39:55.000That outcome Is to, of course, make sure no one is able to resist or speak out against the nonsense that they're trying to push on everyone.
00:40:02.000Look, what you just said, there's so much important stuff there.
00:40:05.000Because, first of all, Cass Sunstein, that memo, Cognitive Infiltration, is what he was proposing.
00:40:12.000Anonymous federal agents to psychologically manipulate movements to get them to go in a certain direction.
00:40:19.000He then that year published a book called Nudge which is actually the foundation for censorship techniques and so-called interventions on social media which are being funded to the tunes of tens of millions of dollars by a dozen different federal agencies for all these nudge techniques to get people to stop reading false and misleading news and to rig algorithms and to use AI machine learning techniques to be able to create topographical maps of misinformation communities And, you know, Cass Sunstein, I believe, is currently at DHS, and his wife is Samantha Power, the head of USAID.
00:40:55.000And USAID is the largest facilitator of clandestine operation funding for the Central Intelligence Agency, and USAID is the premier U.S.
00:41:06.000vehicle for capacity building in Ukraine, as well as in a bunch of other places.
00:41:11.000USAID actually custom-built the digital identity system called the DIA app, which was called a state and a smartphone, which was funded and developed by USAID To create a digital identity, basically a counterinsurgency tool for political dissidents in Ukraine, tying their social media to their bank accounts, so that the US Embassy there, effectively, has basically a heat map of when people are saying things online that might undermine the domestic consensus in Ukraine against, we'll just say, a president who may be influenced by interests abroad.
00:41:49.000It's absolutely crazy how many underhanded techniques that they're using simultaneously while tracking everyone's viewpoints, tracking everyone's opinion, and then slowly nudging it in a direction that they want you to perceive, that they want you to think.
00:42:02.000And this is why I think we have to be very careful and think critically about what we see on social media algorithms, because those are also highly manipulated.
00:42:11.000As Facebook works with the State Department, works with Intel agencies to specifically curate information, as they were even doing psychological studies there trying to manipulate people's emotions to see how far they could go just by simply deciding on what to show people and what not to show people.
00:42:31.000I brought his own document to him and I said, look, you're talking about doing all these covert, underhanded, really immoral things to control the narrative and the discourse in this country.
00:42:49.000These powerful governmental officials will say something publicly, and then when it turns out bad, they'll just, I never said that.
00:42:57.000And that's, it's infuriating, but I guess all I can really say is that it's our job to get those videos and get those statements out to the public to prove they're liars.
00:43:06.000Oh, and a great example of this, you know, you can go to YouTube right now and type in the search term psychological vaccination, which is a concept and a nudge technique which is being funded to the tune of tens of millions by the State Department, the DoD, and the National Science Foundation, and you can see these Government-funded, computational mad scientists for the purpose of censorship and stopping people from expressing populist political opinions.
00:43:33.000And literally, they say that the goal is behavioral modification and psychological inoculation against misinformation.
00:43:41.000And they have all these different techniques for doing it, which involve basically weapons-grade, they call it pre-bunking, but it's basically like the world's most Indefensible form of strawmanning.
00:43:52.000It's like we know they're going to be exposed to these arguments and they're probably going to believe them because they're probably true.
00:43:57.000So what we need to do is before they hear them, we're going to expose them to a really stupid version of it.
00:44:03.000And we're going to force-feed them the talking points just to show all the ways that a little incomplete version of that is... Once they've absorbed that, we give them the next part in the argument.
00:44:12.000We strawman the ever-loving hell out of that.
00:45:39.000Then when it comes out that there's a bill being passed like end dogfighting or something, the average person has already been exposed to a fake version of the story, and they believe the fake version.
00:45:47.000That's why Ian brought this up yesterday.
00:45:49.000He said as soon as he saw one story came out, he knew he immediately had to call his mom and stop her and tell her what was going on before she saw the fake news.
00:45:57.000Every single operative in the field of mis- and disinformation studies starts from a first premise, and they talk about this so openly, that if people are exposed to misinformation flush.
00:46:08.000If it hits them full-on and there's not an intervention or some sort of filter or some sort... I mean this is the whole reason that they started doing fact-check affixing to social media posts.
00:46:19.000So that there was some sort of annotation so that you never got the opposing side's argument flush.
00:46:25.000It never landed completely because there was some way to add friction to it or some way that there was, you know, a ghost in the machine essentially telling you that's not really true even though you're reading with your own eyes.
00:46:36.000And this is now a technique rolled out at every level and it's getting so much funding.
00:46:41.000I mean it's If North Korea did this, we would be shocked at even North Korea's technological prowess to achieve that kind of Orwellian, you know, it's not even post-truth, it's post-brainpower.
00:46:55.000So debunking, obviously so many people know that debunking is usually fake, they do this thing where they're like, this story's been debunked, and they don't even say, there's no fact-checking, there's no evidence.
00:47:05.000One day someone will say, Joe Biden did thing, and the media will say, debunked.
00:47:13.000And they'll just say, oh, that story's been debunked.
00:47:15.000They will write every article saying, and the theory pushed by Republicans, comma, which has been debunked, comma, and it works, people are, there's many stupid people who fall for it.
00:47:26.000I mean, this is not just them trying to lie to the American people.
00:47:30.000It gets much bigger and much deeper than this.
00:47:32.000This is the promotion of mass hypnosis.
00:47:35.000This is the promotion of psychological warfare that's being waged on the American people without their consent to deny them the truth and the reality that they live in every single day.
00:47:46.000It's to allow the government to do whatever they want with you, but if you dare to question what they did, or an incident where they hurt people, or where they screwed people over, or where they took your money, or when they robbed you, you can't even dare to question or ask about it because you're going to have this artificial intelligence Psychological warfare and and emotional manipulation gaslighting on your butt like white on rice saying no you're crazy conspiracy theorist you need to be denied access to speech you need to be downranked in the algorithm and usually you are which is absolutely freaking crazy!
00:48:17.000Yeah, I mean, so the media is really supposed to exist in order to solve a very serious and important problem, which is that there are many things happening in the world at any given moment which affect all of us, but that we simply do not have the time to gather the information about ourselves in order to make informed decisions about.
00:48:36.000Everyone in this room does this for a living, but your average person Working a normal nine-to-five or even more hours than that does not have time to sit down and sift through all of the information about every relevant news story.
00:48:47.000Even those of us who do this for a living have to zero in on specific topics of interest and become well-versed in those because we can't know everything about everything that's happening in the news.
00:48:57.000And that's why it's so important to have a media apparatus that you can trust but of course we don't have that in this country.
00:49:03.000They've abused their power and they've used it in order to manipulate people so they throw information at you as you've all Expressed and mentioned here which contains incorrect information or which simply labels?
00:49:14.000Information which is true as debunked with ever actually going into it and of course your average person I mean not only do they not have time but even if they did have time our brains are not designed for us to be able to Endlessly sit in front of a screen and sift through every story and retain all of the information and know whether or not we're being lied to so there's an important role for media and there's also a massive obligation and they've totally failed to live up to it in any It's not just to manipulate people, it's to mind control people, and we have to understand a lot of people, even in the alternative media, a lot of people who are unsuspecting of this are probably already victims of it.
00:49:52.000Yeah, well, the less you realize that the media is trying to lie to you and manipulate you, the more susceptible you're going to be to that manipulation.
00:49:59.000One thing I do find that's helpful, if there's a particular story There's a particular conservative talking point, for example, that the media is saying is untrue and it's far-right and it's been debunked.
00:50:09.000And it doesn't have to be a conservative one.
00:50:11.000It can literally be anything that the media is claiming isn't true.
00:51:27.000Pointer has like 65 government grants.
00:51:31.000This is the national security state itself setting up these gargoyles within the news media ecosystem To censor the ability to proliferate ideas that might challenge the national security state's agenda, and if we're supposed to have a civilian-run government, but you now have this kind of quasi-military statecraft intelligence apparatus that if the people want to vote for something that they would have to be beholden to, they can in before it by basically blocking the ability to politically organize or to form a consensus because they can't even speak the words to make the point.
00:52:08.000I want to jump to this story from Newsweek.
00:52:11.000Donald Trump's properties will likely be auctioned off, attorney says.
00:52:24.000He is facing, I guess, the rest of his life in prison.
00:52:27.000His lawyers are facing several, uh, it could be decades in prison.
00:52:32.000They're sanctioning other lawyers who made arguments on his behalf.
00:52:36.000They're targeting Trump supporters as MAGA extremists.
00:52:39.000The FBI is targeting Trump's supporters.
00:52:41.000If you're a Trump voter or Trump follower, you're an extremist according to the FBI.
00:52:45.000This is a leap from where we've seen it before.
00:52:47.000And now we're hearing that after a judge summarily ruled that Donald Trump must dissolve the Trump Organization and several New York companies, a former attorney out of New York, is saying that likely what they'll do is they're going to liquidate and auction off his properties.
00:53:02.000Donald Trump's properties will likely be liquidated and sold off at auction after a judge found he committed fraud, New York's former assistant attorney general has said.
00:53:10.000So it's not just some attorney, it's the former assistant attorney general.
00:53:13.000Tristan Snell was speaking after a court found that the former president had massively inflated the value of some of his properties and ordered that some Trump companies involved be stripped of their corporate licenses.
00:53:24.000The worst outcome that could have come from this case has already been handed down.
00:53:28.000And that is for the corporate licenses to be cancelled.
00:53:31.000The properties are likely going to be liquidated.
00:53:33.000The properties are probably going to be sold at auction.
00:53:35.000That's probably what is going to happen.
00:53:37.000We don't know that for sure, but that is probably where this is headed, so Trump is already really, really in trouble.
00:53:43.000Did the courts prove that Donald Trump committed fraud?
00:54:19.000But I wonder if Donald Trump is doing this for himself because he is filled with a blind rage and wants revenge, and I'll take it.
00:54:26.000Yeah, I mean, look, he knows that these people have done basically everything to try to screw him over and screw the American people over, and it's very important for the powers that be that you, as an average person watching what's happening in the media, know that this is what happens to people who stand up to them.
00:54:41.000This is what people who are a thorn in the side of the establishment are going to have to go to in present-day America.
00:54:53.000And I genuinely do believe that regardless of whether I agree with him on everything, and there are certainly things I disagree with him about, that he's doing a lot of this because he is angry with the injustices that the American people have faced at the hands of the establishment over the past several decades.
00:55:11.000Kyle Serafin made a joke once that there's so many stacking human rights violations in this country now that the country we used to live in would do a land invasion of the country we currently live in.
00:55:22.000No, I mean, there's some truth in that.
00:55:24.000And when you look specifically at what's happening to Donald Trump, I think part of me wonders You mentioned earlier that the system is attacking him right now, and he is the lead candidate running for president right now.
00:55:39.000I think those two things, while certainly being correlated, it's difficult for me to suss out whether that relationship is necessarily causal.
00:55:46.000And I don't know that you were implying that it was, but on some level, it seems to me important to them to go after the frontrunner, if the frontrunner is challenging the establishment.
00:55:53.000On the other hand, I also wonder if, even if Trump was in last place, they would still be doing this, because they have to punish those who stand up to the regime.
00:56:04.000I think you made a very interesting kind of observation because I do think if the United States saw what was happening inside of the United States, they would invade the United States in order to restore democracy and rule of law.
00:56:18.000Again, I've been a critic of Donald Trump, but this is clear political prosecution.
00:56:23.000This is clearly them doing everything in their power to try to stop him.
00:56:28.000And the more that they do that, the more popular he becomes.
00:56:32.000The more people support him in the polls, the more people want him to become president of the United States.
00:56:36.000At what point do they realize that whoever they're trying to stop, They're also growing at the same time.
00:56:42.000Exactly, and that goes hand-in-hand with what I was saying earlier.
00:56:46.000If it was the other way around, right, and the media was talking about how Trump actually did nothing wrong and the system was going after him for unjust reasons, then maybe the American people wouldn't support him.
00:56:57.000I think it's a combination of factors.
00:57:40.000These people are evil and they are psychotic.
00:57:43.000And what they are doing to Trump to seize his properties, to seize his money, is Communism 101.
00:57:50.000If this really comes down to it, That they cancel the license of Trump's companies, they lose on appeal, and then they what, liquidate and auction them off?
00:58:09.000Well, and, you know, for your average person looking at this, again, they see Donald Trump, an actual billionaire, being handled in this way by the system, and I think it could cause them to despair, to go, well, if he's not able to get through this, right, if he's not able to leverage the economic power that he has to escape this kind of political prosecution, what hope is there for me?
00:58:30.000In many respects, what we're seeing is actually worse than an assassination.
00:58:36.000We've had assassinations in this country.
00:58:38.000We've actually never had presidents indicted like this and having their entire lives destroyed via these liquidations and these gangbang of lawsuits from every direction.
00:58:49.000But the fact is, When JFK got assassinated or when Abe Lincoln got assassinated, there was not an attempt to say this is a legitimate course of action.
00:59:02.000You could say this is a tragedy, this is horrible, but it's a one-off thing that doesn't actually make me entirely lose faith in the legitimacy of the system because it wasn't system approved.
00:59:12.000What we're seeing now is effectively an assassination.
00:59:26.000It's only 25 years for first-degree murder.
00:59:30.000And he's facing 750 without even... on totally novel legal theories.
00:59:34.000So what they're doing to the perceptions of legitimacy in this country by doing it this way is honestly An order of magnitude more shocking.
00:59:44.000I wasn't alive for whatever was experienced during JFK, but I have to imagine that... I mean, how can anyone here forget this for the rest of their lives?
00:59:52.000And there's always going to be a degree of cold anger about what they've done to this guy just for running for office.
01:00:00.000Well, so here's the question for you guys, and maybe this is just a question of whether you see the glass half full or half empty, whether you're an optimist or pessimist, but do you think that this is going to terrify people and make them feel afraid to do anything because Trump can't escape these charges and they'll feel like they can't, or do you think this is going to edify people, this is going to make them angrier with the system, this is going to make them want to stand up to the powers that be?
01:00:26.000When You know, I'm hanging out with some regular folks on the weekends, just apolitical, nothing to do with this, playing at the old poker tables.
01:00:34.000And some lib guy said, I hate Donald Trump, but trying to get him off the bat, this is getting insane.
01:00:41.000And I've heard sentiment like this quite a bit from regular people who are just like,
01:00:45.000I don't like Donald Trump, I can't stand that guy.
01:01:19.000Not only did it get worse, the economy got worse, and now they won't stop.
01:01:24.000Trump isn't even president anymore, and they're trying to put him in prison.
01:01:27.000They're trying to seize his properties, and I think now what you're starting to see from regular people who thought voting for Biden would get them out of this is, these people who got rid of Trump, they're making it ten times worse, and now it's getting very scary, and I think a lot of these people might actually end up voting for Trump in fear, thinking, We need someone to stop the extremism and it's certainly, we were wrong.
01:01:49.000Voting for Joe Biden exacerbated the problem.
01:01:52.000So yeah, well I'll let you guys respond first before I interject with my point.
01:01:57.000Do you think this is going to make people more afraid?
01:01:58.000Do you think this is going to edify them?
01:02:00.000I think looking at the poll numbers, I think a lot of people are saying, I'm just going to support this guy.
01:02:05.000I think we're also reaching a situation where a lot of people are having their lives upended under this economy.
01:02:11.000I think inflation has a big deal to have.
01:02:16.000This kind of sentiment of people being pissed off.
01:02:19.000People saying, hey, everything I had, everything I wanted to achieve in this life is becoming less and less achievable.
01:02:26.000Groceries are becoming more and more expensive under this administration.
01:02:30.000And now they're doing a huge power grab where they are trying to put their main political opponent in jail.
01:02:50.000I think a lot of these people probably won't vote for Trump, but they certainly won't vote for Biden or whoever the Democrat is because they're going to be thinking in their mind, I did this last time and it got worse.
01:03:00.000Yeah, I mean, one thing I would say to anyone who's afraid of standing up to the system in any kind of meaningful way because of what's happening to Donald Trump is that when you appease the left, you show them that the tactic that they're using works and they double down.
01:03:35.000We got halfway to communism, and we're going to stop here, and thank you for your time.
01:03:39.000And then, even when they do get to communism, they'll say, well, this is not a perfectly functioning communist system, because, like, you're hiding some grain and feeding it to your family, so we have to keep pushing the ball.
01:03:49.000No, in reality, they show up to your house when there's rumors that you have a chicken, or that your chicken died, and this is true in North Korea.
01:03:57.000I did a documentary with Vice about North Korea, Interviewed some people who had actually driven through it, and they explained how if a cow dies, you can't touch it.
01:04:08.000The state has to come and take the beef and distribute it evenly among all the people, which usually doesn't happen.
01:04:14.000Usually what ends up happening is it gets stolen, you know?
01:04:18.000It gets sent off to the fat cats and the people in power, but if you secretly take that animal and eat it, they'll put you in the gulag.
01:04:25.000And what they said was, sometimes, the local- because everybody has to join the military.
01:04:29.000Locals will keep it a secret, and then hide the animal and hope nobody finds out, or they'll bribe the local, you know, military guy or guard or whatever and say, we'll give you some beef if you just don't say it happened.
01:04:40.000So this is one of the massive flaws with communism, and this is one thing I try to help people understand.
01:04:44.000It is true that capitalism can result in a disordered centralization of property, but the problem is communism results in a centralization of property rights.
01:04:54.000A small number of people get to own things because they're connected to certain government officials, or they're powerful enough bureaucrats, or they're able to do favors for the right people in the proper positions of power to get themselves whatever it is that they're after, and everyone else has no ability to own anything.
01:05:12.000They have no say, they have no control, they have Nothing to show for their labor.
01:05:16.000I got bad news on that front about the situation here, because the backbone of our interstate commerce law is a case called Wickard v. Filburn, which was a case that prohibited a farmer from being able to grow beyond a certain amount of food crop on his own property because of its impact on interstate commerce.
01:05:39.000When you mentioned the cow, I thought, well, call that grain, and that's actually the architecture of all of these restrictions on personal freedom on grounds of, well, it impacts interstate commerce and thus It's almost like a for the collective, you know, for the collective good, you know, there are these limitations.
01:06:02.000And I'm not even saying that that's, you know, there is a school of thought, there is something to that, but, you know, there's a lot of similarities to foreign tyrannical systems that That are very close to this one that we're living under right now, especially when you look at what Monsanto did with its seeds and its pollination that they were able to, of course, force on local farms and then slowly, surely take them over and tax and regulate them.
01:06:31.000So clearly, this is a hijacked system that just makes up the rules and laws whenever they want.
01:06:36.000And this is something that I've been saying for a very long time.
01:06:38.000There's counties right now in the United States where you can't even collect rainwater.
01:06:58.000You know, right now you've got the AOC wanting to increase tax on the top 5% of income earners in New York City, arguing that, well, it's all the rich people.
01:07:09.000The issue is the top 5% of income earners in New York City make about $250,000 a year.
01:07:15.000I'm not saying these people are by any means broke.
01:07:18.000But we're not talking about the 1% anymore.
01:07:19.000What's happening is, as the wealthy leave, the tax base flees.
01:07:23.000And wealthy people pay the bulk of taxes.
01:07:28.000So when you start cranking up taxes, and New York City is already super expensive because they have a city income tax, wealthy people seeing crime, Basically ask themselves, why am I paying a 4% premium to live in a city that is worse than most other places?
01:07:49.000They reach deeper down to the bottom of the barrel.
01:07:51.000Now they're saying not the 1%, not saying the 5%.
01:07:53.000This means that if you're a dude who makes $130k a year and you marry a woman and you both work full-time, And you're making $250,000 as a married couple.
01:08:22.000Then you gotta pay if we don't have a family.
01:08:23.000Okay, well, you're gonna end up with a couple thousand bucks per month for savings or something like that.
01:08:27.000And again, I'm not saying these people are hurting.
01:08:30.000What's happening now is, that's like what was supposed to be middle class.
01:08:35.000Having a little bit left over so you can plan a vacation for the end of the year and have a retirement account.
01:08:40.000AOC is targeting people who are just barely past this threshold in New York City under the assumption that, what, it's all a bunch of single childless millennials who are making $250k and they gotta pay more in taxes?
01:08:50.000Yeah, well, I mean, even so, yeah, $250K is a lot of money, but the government is taking in plenty of money right now when they waste it, and there's actually some evidence that the government taking in more money results in an increase in debt, because statistical trends show that, historically, for every dollar the government gets in revenue, it spends $1.33.
01:09:09.000So this is something we've seen repeatedly over time.
01:09:11.000They get more money and then they spend more.
01:09:13.000We saw this with the Trump tax cuts, as a matter of fact.
01:09:15.000The left kept arguing, Trump cut taxes and we saw a decrease in revenue.
01:09:19.000We actually saw a 5% increase in revenue as a result of his tax cuts because the economy became more productive because more people were working because they got to keep more of their income.
01:09:28.000And so even off of smaller assessments, even off of a lower tax rate, the government was generating more revenue.
01:09:34.000The problem is, spending increased 10% when that revenue increase went up 5%, and so we did end up with more of a deficit after the Trump tax cuts.
01:09:43.000But it wasn't because we lost revenue, it was because they spent all of the revenue gains plus more.
01:09:48.000But my point is, expect them to keep digging deeper and deeper.
01:10:22.000New York City tax, state tax, and federal tax is what people have to deal with there, and on average pay around, I think, close to, what, 50% of their income of their personal profits that they, of course, worked hard for.
01:10:47.000I don't know if it's true or not, but it's a good story.
01:10:49.000This woman had a viral TikTok where she explained a professor was talking about capitalism and communism and issued a wager to the students saying, We'll try out communism.
01:10:59.000Everybody will take their final, or their midterm or whatever, and then we'll average out the grades and give everyone an equal grade.
01:11:07.000And a bunch of people are like, no, no, we don't want to do that.
01:11:09.000And a bunch of people are like, yeah, okay, let's do it.
01:11:11.000What ended up happening is the people who busted their asses and studied and hit the nail on the head with a hammer, ended up getting B's. And the people who did barely
01:11:20.000anything were like, this is great, I got a B.
01:11:22.000Then, the people who did really well and held the average high said, what was the point of doing all
01:11:27.000that work if I ended up not even getting ahead because of it? I just wasted my time for no reason.
01:11:32.000So what happened? The next time they ended up doing some, you know, the next test that came around,
01:11:37.000everyone ended up getting a C. Now everyone's pissed off and complaining about how this is
01:11:41.000running. And then the next test, everyone failed.
01:11:43.000Because everyone started saying, what's the point of working if I'm not going to get ahead because of it?
01:11:48.000Why would I hurt myself and struggle and not be rewarded for it?
01:11:55.000It's not so much I certainly think there are Marxists and Communists who want to foment the system.
01:12:00.000But I think when you look at what AOC represents, there is a banality of Communism, there is the blind ignorance of marching towards Communism by people who are too stupid and too, uh, they're first-order thinkers.
01:12:14.000I think she's, she lies a lot, I think that's evil, but I also think she's really stupid.
01:12:18.000So what ends up happening is, What is she saying now?
01:12:21.000She signed onto a pledge from the Democratic Socialists to raise, they want taxes raised on the top 5% of New York, and that's where we're at.
01:12:28.00010 years ago it was the 1%, now it's the 5%.
01:12:31.000When there's no one left to tax, you have to tax everyone else.
01:12:36.000It's easy to say the 1% they raise taxes.
01:12:39.000Now, the 1% leaves, revenue goes down, the 5%, then the 10, then the 20, then the 25, then the top 50%.
01:12:48.000Then it's just people fleeing, and you get open-air drug markets, you get exactly what we're seeing now, and once a system breaks, they then come in and say, give us absolute control to solve this problem.
01:12:59.000We need to come in with strong military force and security to clean up the streets, give us the power.
01:13:05.000Well, of course, the irony is that the more they tax people, once they hit that revenue maximizing point in the Laffer curve and continue to go further, which they, I would argue, have long ago, an increase in taxes actually starts to result in less revenue in certain circumstances.
01:13:24.000So when things get really bad and they start dipping lower and lower and say top 10%, top 20%, etc., what happens is not only do they start taking in less revenue because people leave
01:13:33.000the city or they aren't working as hard or more people lose their job or employers can't
01:13:38.000afford to continue to hire people, then the government has less revenue and more of that
01:13:43.000revenue ends up being spent on the corrupt bureaucrats who are sabotaging the system and trying to
01:13:48.000pull from it as much as they possibly can before it totally collapses so that people get a whole
01:13:52.000lot less. People like AOC, and these leftists, they don't understand how taxes work.
01:14:17.000It goes through a lot of different phases before it finally makes it to your store.
01:14:20.000But the reason raising taxes typically will decrease tax revenue If you have a dollar, and tax is 5 cents, 5%, and I give someone the dollar, they gotta give a nickel to the government, but they still have 95 cents.
01:14:32.000So they trade that 95 cents, and now someone's gonna give, you know, a 4.8 or whatever, or whatever the math is, another fraction.
01:14:39.000So the government, in these two transactions, ends up getting slightly more than the one transaction.
01:14:43.000The simple way it works is if you tax someone at 50% and then someone trades their dollar,
01:14:48.000you take half of it, then the next person only has 50 cents, they can't afford to buy
01:15:16.000And they spent a couple million dollars to do this.
01:15:18.000And the reason was, when the county raised taxes by, I think, like .2% or something, like .02%, some tiny number, If you're talking about a fraction of a percent, but you're spending millions of dollars on supplies and orders through Home Depot for your contracting work, you can save a couple hundred bucks or a couple thousand dollars.
01:15:35.000You will drive a couple miles per day to pick up your supplies.
01:16:30.000So, my point is, she can't afford this $17,000 a year, even though she makes, or not $17,000 a year, $17,000 total in debt, when she has $175,000 coming in each year, and she's gonna sit here and lecture us about how people could be paying more money for social programs that they didn't sign up for, when she chose to take that debt out herself!
01:16:49.000I will say, to be fair, Teslas actually aren't that expensive.
01:16:53.000Yeah, I think she has a Model 3 and it's like $30,000, which is crazy to think because... That's unacceptable that she owes $30,000 on that.
01:16:59.000No, no, it's crazy that cars have gotten that expensive.
01:17:06.000It's great that Elon Musk is dropping the prices of all the Teslas repeatedly, but it's crazy when you go to dealerships and you see the inventory's gone and the price is through the roof.
01:17:17.000Yeah, you'll live in the pod and you'll eat the bugs, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy.
01:18:03.000And they're going to bring out cockroach mash, and they're going to put it in front of you, and you won't see that.
01:18:08.000You will see chocolate cake, and you'll be, you know, eating it like, mmm, oh, it's so delicious.
01:18:12.000And then anybody without the Neuralink, they're going to see the roach legs smattered to your face, and like, and the roach gunk on your face, you're like, mmm, licking it off.
01:18:47.000There's so much theft going on right now that it's absolutely disgusting because it stops the free market for one being free, but also stops individuals from solving problems and being there for each other and communities and robbing them of any freedom.
01:19:00.000Back to the point, I don't think necessarily it'll be Neuralink, I don't know.
01:19:04.000I think if they get to the point where Neuralink can be wireless, this will happen.
01:19:28.000On another trip, we went inside, not with Seamus this time, and it was kiosks.
01:19:33.000There were human beings behind the counter, but they're just making food, and you go to a kiosk to order.
01:19:38.000Give it 10 or 20 years, you're gonna walk into Taco Bell, and it's going to say, uh, you know, you're gonna type in, I'll do a cheesy gordita crunch, extra sauce, checkout, and it's gonna say NeuralPay, and you're gonna be like, uh, there's nobody here.
01:20:04.000I've thought about something weirdly a lot and I'm curious for your guys' opinion on it.
01:20:09.000What happens to the ad tech world in a fully saturated Neuralink world?
01:20:15.000In the sense that, you know, like Google AdWords Totally changed the way search happened on the internet because it all became all about the word you're searching for and you monetize the specific words.
01:20:27.000Billions of dollars of advertising go into bidding on words when the interface moves from words to thoughts.
01:20:36.000It's like I can almost- It's still words though.
01:20:38.000But I can imagine, but those are going to get tagged to basically like neural activity.
01:20:45.000And you're going to have signatures of neural activity associated with those words.
01:20:48.000You're going to basically have like bidding on neural signatures, like very directly.
01:20:52.000I think the bigger issue with Neuralink advertising is going to be the discovery of, we already know this, but the degrees of cognitive faculties, I suppose.
01:21:05.000I don't want to say IQ necessarily, but there are Different metrics by which we assess an individual's brain capacity.
01:21:39.000Some people report not having an inner monologue.
01:21:42.000And I've met people, they say that they don't have an inner monologue, and I'm like, so what do you think when you think?
01:21:49.000Like, if you're not thinking in pictures, words, sounds, and like visualization, what are you thinking?
01:21:54.000And they're like, I don't know, just thoughts, I guess.
01:21:58.000What I've experienced in talking to people about this is that some people think in pictures, some people think in sounds, some people think in images of the words themselves, and some people report none of this.
01:22:09.000Some people in their minds are talking to themselves as they think, and some people are not.
01:22:14.000Some people have multi-track minds, and some people don't.
01:22:17.000So when it comes to Neuralink, and they begin to try and track your brain activity for ads, it's gonna be interesting when they find people who get into Neuralink, they're gonna say, and whether you want them to or not, These AI companies, these big tech companies, if Neuralink-type devices, human-brain interfaces, brain-computer interfaces, become ubiquitous, they will absolutely track your cognitive level.
01:22:41.000It's going to be like the Human Genome Project, but for neural activity.
01:22:45.000To create a comprehensive map of all the different words, phrases, ideas, they'll be able to track dissonant groups by the signatures of... Easily.
01:22:57.000The crazy thing is... Very frightening.
01:22:59.000Have you seen Captain America Winter Soldier?
01:23:03.000This is the movie where there's a secret conspiracy, a government conspiracy, to mass-execute dissident thinkers.
01:23:11.000And the plan is to launch gigantic warships that will instantly target anyone who is deviant and execute them instantly with a bunch of guns, just like a hail of gunfire.
01:23:44.000When you go outside, and you look at the... Actually, one of my favorite points to be made to people, there's two stories.
01:23:49.000The one is, the Native Americans on the islands in the Caribbean, in the Bahamas, could not see Christopher Columbus's ships.
01:23:56.000Their ships were on the horizon, headed towards the island, and they didn't know it was happening.
01:24:01.000Despite them being there, visible, plain to any human, They did not register until there were like there was like an elder or shaman who was sitting there watching the waves and then one day looked up and said There's a very large boat and they were like what where right there see it and they were like No, I don't see that thing right there.
01:24:21.000This is a story they tell And the reason they say that the elders were able to notice it is because many of these tribes and different societies would map waves.
01:24:33.000By tracking the direction of the wave, you actually know where islands are and where other landmasses are.
01:24:39.000So when these big ships are creating wake and creating waves, the masters were like, hey, wait a minute, something's there!
01:24:46.000But it wasn't within their comprehension.
01:24:48.000So what I like to do is when I'm driving in the middle of nowhere, and there is like a plane or whatever, let's say we're driving in rural Illinois through the Midwest.
01:24:57.000As soon as I see a cell phone tower, I would always ask one of my friends, I'm like, what do you see right now?
01:25:27.000Now consider that as we enter the next phase of, you know, brain-computer interface, what we're going to be tracking in people's minds, what AI can notice that you can't.
01:25:38.000If we can't even see a giant tower in front of us because it's immaterial to us, so we don't even register it, and we don't remember it being there, Think about all of the things we miss every single day.
01:25:52.000Man, they're gonna be able to accurately predict weather perfectly.
01:25:57.000Like right now it's like, well there's a front coming in here so this usually means weather and there's like an accuracy and it's like we think it might rain.
01:26:03.000Nah, they're gonna be able, not only that, with a true masterful like quantum AI, they will be able to butterfly effect a hurricane.
01:26:13.000They'll be able to track the entire global patterns by collecting all the data, and then look at all the variables and weed it down to, like, how did this hurricane form right here?
01:26:21.000And then say, okay, we can see that stuff.
01:26:38.000The Chinese government is already using this.
01:26:41.000And that's one element of this that doesn't even have to do with the social aspect of this doesn't have to do with the psychological aspect of this as of course the manipulation that is already underway probably involves components of artificial intelligence as we speak right now.
01:26:57.000I don't know about you, but I think there's the possibility of a bigger conspiracy here and the possibility of a lot of technology that we're not even aware of already at use manipulating our thoughts and ideas as we speak right now.
01:27:12.000Well, I mean, this is a threshold thing.
01:27:15.000I was thinking about robot dogs recently, you know, those like black mirror dogs that got rolled out to like, you know, now just like regular city streets from time to time and are always sort of threatening to be the next sort of digital robo cop to replace street cops and I was thinking about that recently.
01:27:32.000There's so much corruption in the Justice Department now, and there's so much, like, there's so many civil rights abuses from the National Security State, and law enforcement, and other branches of government, that it's almost like, well, pick your own adventure story, but for dystopia, it's like, in a way, they've made things so bad in the analog sphere that you almost Welcome the order of some of these digital things, because you know against the people who just want you dead because of your political opinions, you don't have a chance.
01:28:08.000I'd almost rather have like an AI judge than the guy that Trump's up against who like starts the hearing by smirking for the camera.
01:28:19.000We're against an attorney general like Letitia James who literally campaigned on indicting someone and is not recusing.
01:28:28.000So the problem is, as we talk about digital dystopia, the problem is the analog dystopia is so bad now that We're already at 11.
01:29:09.000And how sophisticated and complicated does it get?
01:29:12.000And are we even able to imagine how bad it gets?
01:29:16.000My colleagues at the State Department were actually some of the smartest people I met in government and outside of government.
01:29:23.000There is an animating spirit of Machiavellian world conquest that permeates that institution in a way that it doesn't at HUD or even at the White House.
01:29:35.000There is a sense of the bigness of the world and the interconnectedness of the world and the opportunities in the world to go region by region and Stack the deck in ways that are advantageous to the State Department stakeholders.
01:29:52.000This is one of these things where until the 2016 election happened and the national security state, which has always, you know, come home in so many ways, you know, I mean, you can make an argument that even the Martin Luther King stuff and a lot of the COINTELPRO stuff was a proxy attack on the Vietnam War, you know, The FBI only got the counterintelligence predicate on him because of him being backed by Stanley Levison, who was said to be a sort of communist Soviet, and you had DOD and CIA involvement in that FBI activity as well.
01:30:25.000There was always sort of a crackdown on this, but what they've done in the modern era has actually shook my I used to think that we've got this Department of Dirty Tricks, you know, that we started to set up after World War II.
01:30:42.000You know, 1947 Act, we create the CIA, we change the name of the War Department to the Defense Department to make it sound like we're not doing war, we create this entire NGO swarm army, we create these incredible embeddings between the national security state and the media, a soft power projection apparatus that could effectively control the political economies of any country we capacity build.
01:31:04.000And, but there was always sort of a sense, well, it's for the benefit of the people who live here.
01:31:09.000The bigger the American empire gets, the better off Americans are.
01:31:13.000More jobs are, you know, if Chevron does well, well, that's more people who's got jobs in Texas and in Oklahoma.
01:31:19.000You know, if Pepsi-Cola does well, you know, that's more for shipping.
01:31:25.000There was this, there was, at one point, there was a connective tissue between the people who live here and the empire abroad and at some point, you know, pick your evolution point in globalization, you know, whether that was, you know, in the seventies, whether that was in the nineties when the offshoring really hit the hay and, you know, China joined the WTO and cheap labor.
01:31:47.000There were so many different points of departure from that.
01:31:52.000But now it's almost completely removed.
01:31:54.000And there's no better example of that than what's happening with the Biden family in Ukraine.
01:31:59.000I mean, it is like a State Department operation.
01:32:04.000To help a very small number of economic stakeholders.
01:32:07.000I'm not even making a formal opinion on this.
01:32:09.000I understand both sides of the Ukraine-Russia thing.
01:32:14.000I just care about freedom on the internet.
01:32:16.000But in order to understand why it is that You get censored for talking about Ukraine stuff, or political movements who are proxies for that get censored, is because you now have a State Department vested interest in censoring U.S.
01:32:30.000Because if they get a Matt Gaetz in as Speaker, or if they get a sufficient enough caucus in the House Appropriations Committee to be able to kill funding, then there goes the war effort.
01:32:40.000And then there goes the ability for Burisma to monetize the shale in the eastern region.
01:32:47.000Or Chevron, Halliburton, Shell and Exxon, which all have billion-dollar gas contracts with the Ukrainian government.
01:32:54.000All of that goes away if American people have sovereign capacities to think for themselves and decide with those free thoughts to have political representation that votes for that.
01:33:06.000This is, there's no, after Smith was modernized and after, you know, after there's been no oversight, there's no Justice Department pushback, we're now in a brave new world where, you know, it's the State Department's world and we're living in it.
01:33:23.000I like how you said stakeholders at the State Department because they're supposed to be representing the American people and they're clearly not.
01:33:30.000Are you familiar with John Perkins and Confessions of an Economic Hitman?
01:33:37.000Well, you know, it's, this is one of these things, I, you know, my responsibility was cyber.
01:33:41.000You know, I, I didn't, I wasn't in control of, like, a regional desk.
01:33:44.000I didn't do, like, you know, CEE, or, or MENA, or, like, or Middle East, North Africa.
01:33:48.000I, it was, you know, I was focused on, on, on internet.
01:33:53.000But, you know, The fact is, is what's reflected in there, you know, there's actually almost no better example of the validity of the John Perkins sort of theory of the world than a little operation known as the Integrity Initiative, which was a busted British intelligence operation
01:34:11.000Starring folks like Ann Applebaum, Nina Jankovic, Bill Browder, Ben Nimmo, all these people who became the captains of censorship of the American internet, who had these links to British intelligence, and many of them were board members, several of them, on the National Endowment for Democracy, which is one of the country's oldest CIA cutouts.
01:34:30.000They embarked in a basically internet censorship campaign in the name of stopping Russian propaganda after the Crimea annexation in 2014.
01:34:42.000And they, one of the things, so it was run by a guy Christopher Donnelly, Connelly, who was a former MI6, high-ranking British military guy, and one of the internal documents and videos that came out in the leaks was countering The talking points related to the John Perkins sort of acolytes that actually the British state was doing this according to a very predictable playbook.
01:35:14.000These weren't like random activists or college professors saying this.
01:35:19.000These were former super heavyweight apex predators of the national security state.
01:35:25.000plotting operations to stop the populace from believing a theory in a book that makes them look bad.
01:35:31.000I mean, this is organized political warfare turned domestically, and anytime I see that, I trust the target of that far more than the prosecutor.
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01:36:09.000More information about that, uh, unfortunate incident in New York, and the political persuasions of the ind- uh, of the individuals who were victimized, and, uh, a lot to be said.
01:36:23.000I'm not your buddy guy. Oh, he was number two today, not number one.
01:36:26.000Says I miss when I thought intel officers were like James Bond thwarting megalomaniacs,
01:36:30.000when in reality, sadly, sadly, they would be helping those megalomaniacs.
01:36:34.000Yeah, yeah, when you when you watch those movies and there's like,
01:36:38.000a super villain twirling his mustache. Did you actually look DC Comics understood this, right?
01:36:46.000You watch James Bond and you're like, ah, these industrialists turn out to be evil.
01:36:50.000It's like, yeah, and in DC, Lex Luthor ran for president.
01:36:54.000Because the supervillain understood political power, you know?
01:36:58.000And as a way, evil people seek power, and they're going to seek it through legitimate means and then be evil once they get it, and doing illegitimate things.
01:37:05.000Yeah, and especially when you have a really corrupt system, you actually start to select for the most evil possible people.
01:37:11.000You kind of discussed this earlier when you were speaking about the tyrannical regimes.
01:37:14.000We saw earlier in the 20th century, or I should say later in the 20th century or mid-20th century, where people end up having to become more selfish in order to survive.
01:37:24.000I think the way the political system actually works today is not only do more corrupt people seek power, but we actually incentivize corruption because it's the best way to get ahead.
01:37:58.000If you were found guilty of a crime, they would exile you.
01:38:02.000And if you came back, then they would chase you out.
01:38:04.000And so it's like, good luck surviving in the middle of nowhere.
01:38:07.000But now, because everything is basically owned and controlled, there's nowhere to exile you to.
01:38:12.000Suppose they could put you on a boat and kick you out of the ocean and say, good luck.
01:38:15.000But for many people, that's preferable.
01:38:17.000So that's why I said maybe, instead of the death penalty, we get a big island, we fortify it, secure it, and say, you've resigned yourself to this fate, we're not gonna kill you, but you're on your own.
01:38:26.000You are excised from the benefits of society.
01:38:29.000I mean, when someone is sentenced to life in prison, if you give them the option of the death penalty, what you're basically talking about at that point is assisted suicide for prisoners.
01:38:54.000What are the suicide rates like in prison?
01:38:59.000I've seen so many psychological studies about happiness on winning the lottery versus not, and there's sort of a mean reversion to a baseline over a certain period of time.
01:39:09.000In my mind, I can't place it particularly, but I sort of have a weird vision of people who've talked on tape about being in the can for 35 years and they
01:39:18.000don't necessarily look happier or sadder than I wonder, you know, is suicide in prison
01:39:23.000even is that like a higher than I don't know, but I was having this thought recently when
01:39:29.000we were watching, you know, I was reading about a bunch of crime and I was talking
01:39:35.000For what reason did the founding fathers decide that we could not have cruel and unusual punishment?
01:39:42.000And how would you define cruel and unusual punishment?
01:39:45.000I certainly would make the argument that cruel punishment is pointless, because being cruel doesn't serve anything, we want rehabilitation.
01:39:52.000But then you think about unusual forms of punishment, and I don't understand why that's wrong.
01:39:57.000There have been numerous circumstances where judges have ordered young people, for instance, to hold a sign on the side of the road saying, you know, I committed a robbery or something like this.
01:40:16.000The shootings in Chicago, a lot of them are like, a dude would go on social media and say, this dude's a weak loser, what a pathetic whiny little bitch, etc, etc.
01:40:24.000So the other guy would be like, I'll show him, and they'd go shoot him up.
01:40:26.000Then the police are like, you shot him up, now you're going to prison.
01:40:30.000Which proves that he was strong and hard the whole time.
01:40:40.000Then he gets arrested and goes to prison where he just looks hard to his, his peers.
01:40:44.000And if they are in gangs, they're in prison with their gangs still operating.
01:40:49.000And again, you know, I want to say I'm not advocating for this, but I do have a question.
01:40:54.000When thinking about these things and these petty crimes, you look at these kids who are these, let's say kids, but like teenagers and young adults who are ransacking and rioting.
01:41:01.000What if the punishment for mass looting was to be spanked in public while wearing a diaper?
01:41:06.000If you're convicted and found guilty, they bring you out in public and they give you a spanking and then you're free to go.
01:41:12.000I'm not saying we should do that, but...
01:41:15.000I genuinely believe that would stop a large portion of the crime dead in its tracks.
01:41:22.000I don't know about Thunderdome, I'm just saying, like, the idea of facing an indignity in front of your peers is more terrifying than being locked up with your peers where you work with and harden yourself.
01:41:34.000Jails and prisons where there are gangs operating and selling drugs as it is and still doing their illegal activities, in the minds of many of the people that I knew in Chicago, it was just like, They would say things like, when I go to jail, I'm gonna... Kids in the South Side were like, resigned themselves to assume they would be in jail at some point, and it was totally fine, it was considered normal, and they didn't fear it or hate it at all.
01:41:57.000But the idea that they would be stripped of their dignity in public terrified them to the point where a lot of these kids in Chicago kill over someone besmirching their name.
01:42:07.000And I was like, I'm not saying this is a literal plan.
01:42:09.000I'm saying, I tell you what, if you take one of these guys, put them in a diaper and give them a spanking, they, like, everyone else will be like, dude, I'm not, I'm not, get me away from that.
01:42:18.000Because they're terrified of all the other people they know and all the girls seeing them in this weakened, pathetic position where they're mocked and made fun of.
01:42:26.000I wonder how much of unusual has to do with, like, I think about mandatory prison sentences, sentencing, which was, which was, is one of these things which constantly is volleyballing back between we should have it, we shouldn't have it, we should have it, we shouldn't, should there be mandatory sentences, should judges have discretion, and part of that is, like, if you don't If something is, if there's unusual on the table, you don't even, you don't really have clear expectations of what the punishment for a crime is going to be, and you could see there being, like, you could see justice being sort of
01:43:02.000Mm-hmm highly discretionary if there's Kind of the leeway to do things that are I must I always think unusual to be in the sense of you know predictable rather than then creative, but I I I honestly think sentencing people to jobs would be more healing to a nation than jail or prison, where these just perpetuate the criminal activities in a lot of ways.
01:43:32.000And in many ways, someone who's on like a minor offense who goes to jail actually just gets hardened by more, you know, by career criminals who have been in and out of jail a ton of times.
01:43:42.000If people were sentenced to, you know, you have to go work construction and show up like Here's your sentence.
01:43:47.000You're going to be cleaning like and we do this we do with community service stuff like this.
01:43:51.000But I think longer term sentences of like you are sentenced to five years of working at you know, a construction firm or whatever under supervision with an ankle bracelet would be more effective than we're going to lock you in a box and spend money on your life.
01:44:04.000Yeah, and also, I think the other point you made was super salient too, which was like, it's not just they get hardened, they get networked.
01:44:13.000You get plugged into your gang and now, even if you weren't in one before, that's your team now.
01:44:18.000These kids who are looting and ransacking all over the country, these kids and young adults?
01:44:23.000They know their worst case scenario is they're gonna scream racist, like that woman at Walmart, we saw that viral video, or they're gonna get locked up or pay a fine.
01:44:30.000But I tell you, man, I'm just saying, you take a 16, 17 year old who thinks he's a badass and he robbed, you know, he looted some store, and then you bring him out in public and say, okay, you're gonna get a spanking, and not to injure, to humiliate.
01:44:45.000People are going to really think twice about whether or not they want, like I'm talking about young people who are very concerned about whether they look cool or not, whether they fit in, whether they're popular.
01:44:55.000I don't think, again, I'm not literally saying you do that.
01:44:57.000I'm saying the idea of a public humiliation is a stronger disincentive or whatever, disincentivization than saying we're going to put you with the rest of your gang in a box where you'll continue working.
01:45:12.000Or bring back the Coliseum, and if gang members want to fight, let them fight, and let's get rid of the rule of law, and if they want to fight, let them fight, and let people defend themselves as well, and then we have less government.
01:45:25.000It used to be that dueling was allowed, and I think Oregon still has mutual combat on the books, that if two people agree to fight, Right, it's called mutual combat.
01:45:33.000And then you look at, like, Hamilton and Burr, like the famous duel, and I was reading about how dueling ceased, and it was because younger generations were more progressive and said, this is barbaric, why are people dueling each other?
01:45:45.000And now what you have is rampant gun violence on the streets of Chicago.
01:45:48.000But if dueling were still legal, and, you know, they want to do safe injection sites, where they're like, we should allow people to do drugs, but in a safe place.
01:46:02.000Look, if the point is that heroin can kill you, and so we want to make sure they have a safe place to do it, but they're killing themselves, I'm not talking about ODing.
01:46:10.000I'm saying you are literally dying as you're doing this drug.
01:46:23.000What, you want to bring back safe dueling zones so that people aren't... Hey, if the problem is little kids are getting shot in the crossfire, a pregnant woman just got shot in a crossfire, then why don't you just bring back coliseums?
01:46:33.000Safe dueling sites so that we can protect the public from people who are engaging in duels.
01:46:56.000It'd be funny if it turns out like my pillow is somehow just like very, very, you know, ten times more dangerous than your average pillow in a pillow fight.
01:47:04.000And then someone just starts destroying everybody in a pillow fight, sending people flying.
01:47:16.000says, seeing big names cry about Gaetz, saying he's not a real conservative, makes me want to let them conserve themselves to being a speed bump.
01:47:24.000Republicans only stand a chance because of us.
01:47:40.000If there is a slim majority, and the Republicans are like, with our slim majority, we want to exercise it in this way, and McCarthy's like, nah, we're just gonna give Democrats what they want, then what was the point of voting for Republicans?
01:47:50.000You gotta vote in more MAGA-type, anti-establishment types, etc, etc.
01:52:06.000We have the erosion through corruption and you end up with Heavy taxation.
01:52:11.000You end up with the seizure of control of property rights and you end up with the centralization of power because the government gives preferential treatment to certain companies which then amass massive power and then revolving door between government and they create some kind of corporatocracy oligopoly.
01:52:50.000Capitalism is simply defined as the private transfer of goods and labor, whereas communism is determined as the public or government ownership of goods and labor, which basically means you have no rights, you will own nothing, and you're not going to be happy, and if you tell anyone you're not happy, they're going to throw you in a gulag.
01:53:08.000But in a real free market, there would be someone who would say, yeah, I'm going to have a light bulb that's going to last forever, and I'm going to sell it to you because there's an opportunity there.
01:53:58.000Because these things have happened, they do happen, and they happen in free markets.
01:54:01.000Yes, they happen especially with what happened with David Rockefeller and a lot of his enterprises when he, of course, was manipulating the system.
01:54:09.000But it's usually done through force and coercion under the government rules and regulations, and I would still rather have the risk of an entrepreneur coming out and saying, hey, I actually have the forever light bulb that you could buy at this particular price.
01:54:21.000There still is a better chance for that than the current system that we have now under all these rules and all these regulations.
01:54:26.000No system is perfect, but the best system, I think, is a free system, and I think the snake oil argument is, of course, just one of many arguments of the imperfectness of everything, but the biggest system that does the most damage, harms the most people, is usually a more centralized government system.
01:54:44.000And so the question is, to have a free market, would you be okay with snake oil salesmen and products of such?
01:55:04.000And the FTC issues a fine, and then the company pays the fine but made more money in profits.
01:55:10.000From the fake product anyway, so it's like they'll sell $20 million in garbage, pay a $5 million fine, company dissolves, they reform a new company, and they sell this garbage again.
01:56:27.000You then put the magic object in their hand, have them stand on one foot, put their arms out, but this time, you push down and slightly into, in the direction of their body, by only a tiny bit.
01:56:37.000You're pushing into the center of gravity so they don't fall over, and then you go, look at this!
01:56:43.000And you can actually push down pretty hard on someone if you're pushing into their center of gravity and the average person falls for the trick.
01:56:49.000It's an illusion like, whoa, what happened?
01:56:51.000Not realizing you adjusted the angle of force, so now they're not tripping.
01:56:55.000They use that trick, and the thing is, all these sales guys are taught, here's how you trick people into buying garbage rubber bands.
01:57:03.000Then the FTC comes in and says, you gotta pay, you know, five, ten million dollars, fine, they go, we made thirty million dollars already.
01:57:09.000And then they relaunch with some other garbage.
01:57:10.000Wait, wait until you find out what Big Pharma is doing.
01:58:41.000I think they're going to have to report on themselves, especially after Operation Fast and Furious and all the horrible things that they did there.
01:59:05.000That's gonna be the crazy thing with Neuralink, and there's been a lot of sci-fi about it, but when people choose to remove memories, a lot of people look at the Matrix and it's like, you can learn Kung Fu in a minute.
01:59:16.000Yeah, and a lot of people are gonna be like, man, I did not like today, just delete.
02:00:06.000Yeah, like, with, uh, with nanotech stuff, it would make more sense that you would, instead of exercising every day, you'd take a kung fu pill, and then just go play video games, and it, that makes more sense, because it could affect your muscles and everything, and the nanobots could be, you know, shifting and rearranging things.
02:00:22.000You'd be all sore and tired, like, man, it was, it was... Crazy workout, man!
02:00:25.000Yeah, four hours of kung fu and a pill?
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