Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - August 28, 2023


Timcast IRL - Trump Judge Sets Trial Date For SUPER TUESDAY DIRECTLY Cheating 2024 w-Spike Cohen


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 2 minutes

Words per Minute

208.7074

Word Count

25,511

Sentence Count

1,997

Misogynist Sentences

15

Hate Speech Sentences

26


Summary

Trump's trial date has been set for March 4, and the only person to be remanded to custody is the man who runs Black Voices For Trump, a group dedicated to unearthing the truth about the Trump administration. Plus, a new poll shows that Donald Trump's support among black voters is at an all-time low.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The judge has set the trial date for Donald Trump in the federal case.
00:00:24.000 March 4th, the day before Super Tuesday, inhibiting Donald Trump's ability to campaign on the
00:00:30.000 most important primary day of the election year.
00:00:34.000 This is overt cheating in the 2024 election.
00:00:38.000 This judge is anti-Trump.
00:00:39.000 She'd already said that she's surprised he's even free, considering what's going on.
00:00:43.000 So we know where this is going.
00:00:44.000 They're pulling out all of the stops.
00:00:46.000 And I think one of the most damning things to come out from this story of Trump's indictment in Georgia is that the only person to be remanded to custody is the black guy who runs Black Voices for Trump.
00:00:57.000 We have a poll that came out from Fox News that says Donald Trump has 20% support among black voters.
00:01:04.000 Now, if that's true, and it's a very big if because, you know, among the I'd like to see this poll repeated 100 times before I believe it.
00:01:11.000 But if that's true, according to the Wall Street Journal and many analysts, if the Republican Party reaches 20% support among the black vote, Democrats cannot win.
00:01:20.000 So this should be pretty interesting, and perhaps that's why the one guy who gets remanded to custody, no bail, is the Black Voices for Trump director.
00:01:28.000 We'll see how that plays out.
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00:03:06.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Spike Cohen.
00:03:10.000 Hey, how are you doing?
00:03:11.000 Great to be back.
00:03:12.000 Absolutely.
00:03:13.000 Who are you?
00:03:13.000 I'm Spike Cohen.
00:03:14.000 I'm a husband, a businessman.
00:03:16.000 I was the 2020 Libertarian candidate for vice president, and I am the founder and president of You Are the Power.
00:03:23.000 Do you know who's going to be the Libertarian candidate?
00:03:26.000 We don't know yet.
00:03:26.000 No idea.
00:03:27.000 All right.
00:03:27.000 Well, should be fun.
00:03:28.000 Thanks for hanging out.
00:03:29.000 Thanks, man.
00:03:29.000 We got Libby Emmons.
00:03:31.000 Hey, Tim.
00:03:31.000 How's it going?
00:03:32.000 You're not Ian.
00:03:33.000 You're Libby.
00:03:33.000 I'm not Ian.
00:03:34.000 I'm Libby.
00:03:35.000 I'm over here.
00:03:36.000 Yeah.
00:03:36.000 Who are you?
00:03:38.000 I'm Libby Emmons.
00:03:39.000 I'm the Editor-in-Chief of the Postmillennial and Human Events.
00:03:42.000 Glad to be on the show.
00:03:43.000 Right on.
00:03:43.000 And of course, Hannah Clare's hanging out.
00:03:44.000 Hey, I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow.
00:03:45.000 I'm happy to be here with both of you tonight.
00:03:47.000 It's going to be a fun show.
00:03:48.000 And Serge is here.
00:03:50.000 Yes, I am, before I head to Miami to go prep for this big show, so get your tickets, y'all.
00:03:56.000 Yeah, it's gonna be fun.
00:03:56.000 All right, everybody, let's jump into this first story.
00:04:00.000 We got this from the Postmillennial.
00:04:01.000 Breaking!
00:04:02.000 Trump to appeal DC trial date of March 4th, calling it election interference.
00:04:07.000 I have to agree.
00:04:08.000 They know exactly what they're doing, citing the state.
00:04:11.000 There's no question about it.
00:04:12.000 They tried to stop it.
00:04:14.000 I think it was Brian Kemp tried to shut it down in Georgia.
00:04:16.000 And now at the federal level, like, OK, well, we're going to interfere by any means necessary.
00:04:21.000 Former President Donald Trump torched special counsel Jack Smith, as well as federal judge Tanya Chutkan in a new post he put up on Truth Social Monday, just hours after his official trial date in Washington, D.C., was set for March 4th, 2024, the day before Super Tuesday.
00:04:37.000 Trump suggested the actions of both parties amount to election interference and promised he would appeal the decision, saying...
00:04:45.000 Deranged Jack Smith and his team of thugs who were caught going to the White House just prior to indicting the 45th President of the United States, an absolute no-no, I like that, have been working on this witch hunt for almost three years, but decided to bring it smack in the middle of Crooked Joe Biden's political opponent's campaign against him.
00:05:02.000 Election interference.
00:05:03.000 Today, a biased, Trump-hating judge gave me only a two-month extension.
00:05:08.000 Just what our corrupt government wanted.
00:05:10.000 Super Tuesday.
00:05:11.000 I will appeal.
00:05:12.000 He made a follow-up post saying, page two, colon.
00:05:16.000 How do you have an indictment that is based almost entirely on the findings of the January 6th unselect committee of Marxists, fascists, and political hacks?
00:05:24.000 When these same lowlives who have been caught lying for years about Russia, Russia, Russia, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, FISA, the fake dossier, and much more, purposely and illegally destroyed and deleted all of the evidence, findings, and proof of the January 6th committee, when will deranged Jack Smith criminally charge the committee?
00:05:41.000 Well, there's no question in my mind, and I think any reasonable human being can understand, that when they set the trial date for the day before Super Tuesday, this will inhibit Donald Trump from campaigning on the single most important day of maybe even the whole election.
00:05:58.000 Because whether, Super Tuesday's huge.
00:06:00.000 You're gonna win the primary, but the votes, the turnout we see in the primary is, it reflects the general election.
00:06:06.000 Donald Trump won't be able to have rallies, or if he does, it's gonna be at a courthouse, And it's going to give his opponents and Joe Biden a tremendous advantage.
00:06:14.000 They know exactly what they're doing.
00:06:16.000 Change my mind.
00:06:17.000 Well, here's the thing about it.
00:06:18.000 It's not just that it's Super Tuesday, which is 14 states, including Texas and California.
00:06:24.000 It's also that they're seeking to put a gag order on him to not be able to talk about a lot of what's in the case.
00:06:31.000 So they already did gag him for some of the stuff.
00:06:34.000 I think anything involving witnesses, information about that, that comes out pre-trial.
00:06:39.000 But who knows if they're going to file another motion to try and stop him from having any further discussions publicly about what's going on in this case.
00:06:46.000 I think that's a really big concern as well, especially when he comes out saying that it's election interference.
00:06:51.000 They don't like that.
00:06:52.000 And you also have.
00:06:55.000 You also have a lot of people saying that his posts on Truth Social constitute a level of violence.
00:06:59.000 Like when he says, if they come for me, I'm coming for you.
00:07:03.000 And they think that, you know, like NPR thinks that that's violence, when really what that is, is like also lawfare.
00:07:09.000 You know, it's like further legal implications.
00:07:11.000 Well, then that also implies that they're coming, they see they're coming for him as violence.
00:07:16.000 Yes, of course they do, because they think words are violence.
00:07:18.000 Because they think words are violence.
00:07:20.000 They've already told us this.
00:07:21.000 All through 2020, words are violence.
00:07:23.000 All the pronoun people, words are violence.
00:07:26.000 It's a ridiculous concept when these far leftists are like, words are violence, and then they insult you and call you a name, because by their definition, your response should be what they describe as self-defense, which is violence.
00:07:39.000 You have to go loot things.
00:07:40.000 If you've been insulted, you have to go loot things.
00:07:42.000 It's what they do.
00:07:43.000 Break it.
00:07:43.000 Break it.
00:07:44.000 It's important.
00:07:44.000 No, I tend to agree with you.
00:07:45.000 I think he's certain to win the nomination at this point.
00:07:48.000 I don't see a scenario in which he doesn't, you know, pass away or something like that.
00:07:53.000 That doesn't result in him getting the nomination.
00:07:55.000 This is more about having the pretense or the pretext to be able to, like you said, to gag him.
00:08:00.000 To make it where he can't talk about what promises to be, if not the single biggest election issue, one of the biggest ones, while he's campaigning.
00:08:09.000 Well, yeah, and they just turned over, what, like, I think 12 million pages of discovery.
00:08:13.000 I think that came out today as well, 12 million pages.
00:08:17.000 It doesn't seem like a real amount.
00:08:19.000 It's like when Saddam Hussein released it.
00:08:20.000 It's actually 12.8 million pages of discovery that the DOJ handed off in the documents case.
00:08:26.000 Every third page is just like a recycled article from like a 1970s Playboy or something, hoping nobody notices.
00:08:32.000 Well, that's the thing.
00:08:32.000 That's what discovery is.
00:08:33.000 Like a lot of what they do in discovery when they don't want you to do well in your case is they hinder you by giving you too many boxes.
00:08:40.000 They give you like everything that they can come up with and they say it's in here and then you're going through it all.
00:08:45.000 Yeah, we can't tell you where.
00:08:46.000 You'll find it on your own.
00:08:47.000 It's in there.
00:08:48.000 No, it's in there.
00:08:49.000 Whatever it is.
00:08:50.000 It's hard not to think that any gag order imposed on Trump would be broadly interpreted, too.
00:08:55.000 So even if for some reason he could be, you know, at a campaign rally, they're able to say, well, you referenced the last election, which of course he would because he's campaigning for president.
00:09:05.000 And they'll say, no, you're in violation.
00:09:07.000 It seems obvious that they're trying to trap him into potentially facing more charges.
00:09:11.000 I'm torn between whether or not they want him in jail, when they want him in jail.
00:09:16.000 I think they do, but I don't know if, like, these Democratic leaders are in alignment on when and how.
00:09:24.000 Because if Donald Trump went to jail now, it would be a massive boost for his campaign, but it's really hard to predict exactly what would happen.
00:09:31.000 Like, if they remanded him to custody.
00:09:33.000 It would inhibit his ability to campaign, but the press would be so explosive that it might make more money for him than possible.
00:09:41.000 He did raise like $7 million off the Georgia mugshot.
00:09:43.000 Right.
00:09:44.000 And I think that was like yesterday's number or something.
00:09:46.000 Yeah, that was yesterday's number.
00:09:47.000 Now, they have remanded black voices for Trump.
00:09:49.000 His name's Harrison Floyd.
00:09:51.000 So he cannot campaign.
00:09:53.000 And he's the only one.
00:09:54.000 Yeah.
00:09:55.000 What was their justification for only jailing the black guy?
00:09:58.000 Their justification was lock up the black guy.
00:10:01.000 You know, they wanted to prove that judicial system is racist.
00:10:05.000 I'm surprised that no one caught that right away.
00:10:07.000 Because I remember when I saw the news that he was being remanded, I'm like, like, the only guy they remanded is the black dude?
00:10:13.000 Like, out of like 19 people.
00:10:14.000 Yeah.
00:10:15.000 Yeah.
00:10:15.000 And then and then I think we mentioned on the show and everyone laughed and I'm like, well, you guys didn't like I thought everyone just noticed they did that.
00:10:20.000 Yeah, your tweet was the first thing I saw on that, and I was like, oh no!
00:10:24.000 Because Libby doesn't see color.
00:10:25.000 That's right, I don't see color.
00:10:26.000 But this is like a 4D chess thing.
00:10:28.000 They're saying, see, we told you this system is systemically racist.
00:10:33.000 We told you, we told you that.
00:10:35.000 Because we do it!
00:10:36.000 Because we are racist, we know it.
00:10:38.000 Well there was that poll, I saw a screenshot from Fox News, and I didn't see a headline reflecting that particular aspect of the story.
00:10:47.000 The headlines were all like, Trump improves, and then you can read the poll and see that Trump is enjoying 20% support among black voters, according to Fox News.
00:10:57.000 I don't believe it.
00:10:58.000 I don't trust these polls.
00:11:01.000 But, far be it from me to say outright it is completely wrong, Wall Street Journal, I think it was a year ago, found the exact same, almost the exact same thing, 17%.
00:11:12.000 And a month or two before that, found that Latinos and Asians were also skewing towards the Republican Party.
00:11:19.000 And it may not be that they're skewing towards the Republican Party, but the left is going absolutely insane.
00:11:23.000 And the Democrats saying things like, we know gas prices are high, but sacrifice!
00:11:28.000 for Ukraine kind of drives voters insane and they're going to be like at this point I'll vote
00:11:32.000 for whoever offers me anything give me a ham sandwich and I'll vote for you. So I do think
00:11:36.000 it is possible these numbers are real and there was a lot of propaganda videos people put out
00:11:40.000 where it's you know like black dudes saying like yo I'm gonna be free with you I f with Trump man
00:11:44.000 yeah go Trump like yeah okay dude like come on you find a handful of guys it doesn't mean these
00:11:48.000 polls are real. Those aren't fun videos though. They're fun but they're real.
00:11:52.000 But the reason I'm skeptical is if this is true, Trump can't lose.
00:11:57.000 Yeah, there was actually something that came out, this would have been back in like 04 or 05, that said that if black support, if everything else remained equal, all other demographics remain equal, if black Democrat support went below 80%, there isn't a single state that they could win an election, a federal election or a statewide election.
00:12:16.000 Wall Street Journal wrote that up, referenced it a couple years ago.
00:12:21.000 Well, and that's why it was so significant when Trump gained like even two percentage points between 2016 and 2020 among black voters.
00:12:27.000 I mean, he is, this was like Edison and Pew Research that found it, but he is more likely to have support from black men than black women.
00:12:36.000 But especially in this, you know, four year gap that we've had Biden, it's, it wouldn't surprise me if he maintained the stamina that he had produced in the four years he was in office.
00:12:45.000 It was funny, we had Fresh and Fit on the show on Friday.
00:12:48.000 And Fresh was telling us that Trump getting this mugshot is going to resonate with a lot of people who felt that they've been unjustly incarcerated.
00:12:57.000 They're going to see this guy who's being unjustly incarcerated.
00:12:59.000 It's going to resonate with him.
00:13:00.000 He's going to earn their vote.
00:13:01.000 Now, today, I saw this narrative where they're like, how dare you insinuate?
00:13:05.000 Yes, this has been coming up all over the place.
00:13:07.000 I've been dealing with this myself.
00:13:09.000 Yeah, because Trump was put in jail, he'll gain black support as if all black people have been in jail.
00:13:14.000 And it's like, whoa, hold on there a minute.
00:13:16.000 Yes, hold on.
00:13:17.000 They're, they're, they are.
00:13:18.000 So I can't speak for anybody else.
00:13:19.000 I can just tell you what we talked about on the podcast with Fresh and Fit.
00:13:23.000 But yo, Fresh is a black man telling me this.
00:13:26.000 And he was referencing specifically people who felt unjustly incarcerated, not all black people.
00:13:31.000 Now, I don't know where the other narrative came from.
00:13:33.000 Maybe someone said something else.
00:13:34.000 I'm not going to say that that idea came from this show, but people are saying it, and now they're getting offended that it's racist to imply.
00:13:40.000 I suspect he's going to get at least a little bit of a boost in black support if for no other reason than he created the greatest rap album cover art ever.
00:13:48.000 Like, that is the best.
00:13:49.000 Oh, that's really funny.
00:13:50.000 That mugshot.
00:13:52.000 Yeah.
00:13:53.000 Yeah, I've been hearing this from people that it's like basically racist to say that a mugshot would engender support in the black community.
00:14:00.000 But by the left's own numbers, right, by the Democrats' own numbers, black people are proportionally by population more imprisoned.
00:14:10.000 Disproportionately.
00:14:11.000 Yeah, disproportionately imprisoned, locked up, you know, unjustly treated in the system.
00:14:17.000 And so now they're like, you could see someone else is being unjustly treated in the system.
00:14:21.000 Oh, just like me and my brother and whoever else.
00:14:24.000 And I think that it's true.
00:14:25.000 Like a lot of Americans, I think, have been arrested.
00:14:28.000 You know, most of the men that I know have been arrested at some point.
00:14:32.000 Look at Stop and Frisk.
00:14:35.000 The Democrats screamed that was racist.
00:14:37.000 And then when Bloomberg was mayor, he was challenged as mayor, he said, well, look where the crime is.
00:14:42.000 You know, that's where the Democrats, that's what it says.
00:14:44.000 And it's like, he's just, he's just saying too bad.
00:14:47.000 Yeah.
00:14:47.000 If the Democrats are claiming that black lives by doing it.
00:14:51.000 If the Democrats are complaining, saying that black people are disproportionately targeted by police, and then someone says, I think that might benefit Trump, that he's being unjustly, you know, charged, it's absurd that people are like, how dare you?
00:15:04.000 But of course, Democrats, what else can you expect from them?
00:15:06.000 But utter hypocrisy.
00:15:08.000 I think it's the bending of the logic.
00:15:09.000 They'll be like, well, Trump could never experience the things other people could experience, like, because he's, whatever, white and privileged.
00:15:16.000 I think part of it is, you know, As you watch him get buried in all this legal bureaucracy, getting 12 million documents sent to him, people identify their own challenges with law enforcement and the legal system, right?
00:15:29.000 They just see that, like, this is not a system that is meant to give you a swift trial.
00:15:34.000 It's not something that necessarily It's fair and it's not necessarily a racial sling so much as people who find that the system is broken is seeing that no one is safe from it.
00:15:44.000 Trump was the president of the United States and they're going to do whatever they can to try and use this arm of the government to keep him out.
00:15:50.000 If it could happen to the previous president, it could happen to anyone.
00:15:53.000 It is interesting too that the DOJ has been trying to accelerate the timelines in the cases that they're prosecuting and Georgia and New York both seem to be stretching it out a little bit.
00:16:05.000 It's like Georgia and New York want to get convictions after the DOJ gets convictions so that they can use those convictions in their case.
00:16:11.000 Even Alvin Bragg got permission to use Trump's testimony in the E. Jean Carroll case for his falsification of business documents case, which of course, I just want to point out, Hillary Clinton got charged with falsification of business documents.
00:16:22.000 She was fined $8,000.
00:16:23.000 The DNC paid $113,000.
00:16:26.000 That was for the creation of the Steele dossier, which they classified as legal fees.
00:16:31.000 They got that, and Trump's facing... It's multi-layered, right?
00:16:35.000 They get one trial date, I think, in Georgia.
00:16:38.000 You've got Kenneth Chaseborough, October 23rd.
00:16:41.000 They will use all the testimony from all of these, and they'll keep layering it on.
00:16:45.000 The first mission to inundate Trump's sphere of influence with legal challenges that drain their resources and inhibit them from rallying, campaigning.
00:16:54.000 The second, of course, is to just put them in jail to get rid of them.
00:16:58.000 And another large component is, maybe lastly it's get them in jail if we have to, but the other large component is, can we utilize any of this testimony to remove Trump from the ballot?
00:17:10.000 Which brings me to this story.
00:17:11.000 Oh, it's getting worse.
00:17:12.000 From Politico.
00:17:14.000 New Hampshire Republicans feud over bid to knock Trump off 2024 ballot.
00:17:18.000 The state GOP chair defended Trump's eligibility on Monday.
00:17:22.000 We also have this from Friday.
00:17:24.000 Florida lawyer files challenge to disqualify Trump from 2024 race, citing 14th amendment.
00:17:30.000 Now that one hit Friday.
00:17:31.000 We know it has begun.
00:17:33.000 They're going to try and file all these legal challenges, say Trump can't be president.
00:17:36.000 But this is new from Politico.
00:17:38.000 Take a look at this.
00:17:39.000 New Hampshire Republicans have erupted in a feud over a long-shot effort to keep former President Donald Trump off the ballot in 2024, with the chair of the state GOP insisting Monday that the frontrunner for the party's nomination will be included.
00:17:51.000 In New Hampshire and elsewhere, some legal scholars and Trump critics have long argued the former president should be disqualified from the ballot under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment Which bars those who've taken an oath to support the Constitution from holding office again if they've, quote, engaged in insurrection against the United States or given aid or comfort to its enemies.
00:18:10.000 But the dispute is taking off in New Hampshire where Bryant Corky Messner, an attorney who ran on Trump's endorsement, Uh, and Senate nominee, blah, blah, blah, is questioning Trump's eligibility for the ballot.
00:18:20.000 I'm a constitutional conservative.
00:18:21.000 The words say what they say.
00:18:23.000 I quite frankly believe it is in Donald Trump's best interest to get this looked at as quickly as possible.
00:18:28.000 In any effort to keep Trump off the belt, we'll face a steep climb, blah, blah, blah, we get it.
00:18:32.000 But here we go, ladies and gentlemen.
00:18:33.000 State by state, it's not even 2024, and they're already trying to remove his name from the ballot.
00:18:40.000 If even a single state removes Trump's name from the ballot, you will have 75 million people at the bare minimum saying, we never had an election.
00:18:49.000 Yeah, I would say that.
00:18:50.000 I'm sure you would say that.
00:18:52.000 Absolutely.
00:18:53.000 I mean, the 75 million people who voted for him last time around?
00:18:56.000 I can't imagine that they would consider it a free and fair election if Trump's name is taken off a single state.
00:19:00.000 Florida, especially.
00:19:01.000 If Trump's name's off in Florida, he can't win.
00:19:04.000 Especially off, especially prior to a conviction, right?
00:19:07.000 Like he's being found, essentially being found not guilty, being found guilty before a conviction and I also think that's why they're trying to push these things forward is they're not just looking at the, you know, gagging him or the political consequences of it, they're looking at trying to convict him so that he doesn't even qualify to run for president.
00:19:25.000 But criminal conviction doesn't matter because the lawsuit citing the 14th amendment is a civil matter, it's a political matter.
00:19:32.000 So the question is, does a judge think Trump waged insurrection?
00:19:36.000 We're not here to, you know, the judge is going to say, the question laid before the court is not whether or not Trump committed a crime, but whether or not he waged insurrection.
00:19:43.000 Based on the evidence from the January 6th committee, media report, media report, media report, video, video, video, it seems clear the judge says, just says yes.
00:19:51.000 That's it.
00:19:52.000 And then it'll get appealed.
00:19:53.000 Here's the crazy part.
00:19:55.000 Let's just say it's December 12th, and it finally goes to the Supreme Court, it's rapidly pushed through, and they say, we reject this, you cannot remove Trump's name from the ballot.
00:20:06.000 The election was a month ago.
00:20:07.000 Yeah, that's a concern.
00:20:07.000 Right.
00:20:09.000 It's interesting too, because, and I'm sure you've seen it, the stories out from the Atlantic, New York Times, you know, NPR, whoever else.
00:20:16.000 Saying that Trump should be off the ballot that they should use this 14th amendment and then I was listening to a podcast Like an NPR podcast because I'm always interested to hear what they say what they say, you know And I'll be like that's not what happened But I'm always interested to hear it and they were saying that state like secretaries of state for each state and attorneys general They could make the decision themselves that Trump was guilty of an insurrection and pull his name off the ballot ballot and they were sort of encouraging People to do that.
00:20:43.000 I will say, though, that for the the New Hampshire thing, the New Hampshire GOP chair was on Charlie Kirk today and was saying that he talked with the Secretary of State and Attorney General and doesn't think the move against Trump on the ballot is going to happen.
00:20:58.000 But that doesn't mean that it couldn't happen in other states.
00:21:00.000 And certainly a lot of Democrats are saying that attorneys general have the power to do that.
00:21:05.000 What I don't understand is why... Wait, wait, wait.
00:21:07.000 Unilaterally?
00:21:08.000 What?
00:21:09.000 The Attorney General can unilaterally just say we take Trump off?
00:21:11.000 That's what they were saying on this podcast I was listening to today, was that they could, that the Attorney General could say he's guilty of an insurrection, that that could then be appealed.
00:21:19.000 But by that point, like you were saying, if he's already off the ballot, then the election interference has already happened.
00:21:23.000 Right, right.
00:21:24.000 It's already happened.
00:21:24.000 You know, like you have to then encourage a pencil campaign, which I'm totally bringing a pencil to that.
00:21:30.000 I mean, it's going to be an October surprise.
00:21:30.000 It won't work.
00:21:32.000 Something's going to happen.
00:21:32.000 Right.
00:21:33.000 Because they want the legal challenge.
00:21:35.000 to uh to uh to go through after the after the election yeah that's right they do it in october you uh early voting and mail-in voting is happening and there's no name there's no trump on some of these bouts and you know what it's entirely possible based on what we saw in 2020 With the executive unilateral changes to the election rules and things like that, things like in Pennsylvania where they did universal mail-in voting in violation of their own constitution, a lower court judge said, yep.
00:22:03.000 Then the Supreme Court goes, nah, it's probably fine.
00:22:05.000 Even though any reasonable person can be like, yeah, your constitution says you can't do this, but they don't care.
00:22:09.000 They're gonna do whatever they want.
00:22:11.000 I wouldn't be surprised if, come October, they just, as you mentioned, Attorneys General, just take Trump's name off and say, there is no question.
00:22:19.000 Everyone knows he waged insurrection.
00:22:21.000 We've been talking about it for years.
00:22:23.000 Using that exact word, insurrection.
00:22:25.000 You have to use that word.
00:22:27.000 Right.
00:22:27.000 Because they've been saying insurrection specifically because of the Constitution.
00:22:31.000 And then what happens is they say, if you have a problem with it, sue me.
00:22:35.000 And everyone does.
00:22:36.000 And then the election's over.
00:22:38.000 And they say, what's the big deal?
00:22:38.000 We had an election.
00:22:40.000 It's like with COVID when in New York State, Governor Cuomo shut down all the churches and a suit was brought and it ended up getting an emergency hearing before the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court said, no, you can't shut down the churches.
00:22:52.000 But that was months and months and months later.
00:22:54.000 And by that point, like most of the people had stopped going to church altogether.
00:22:59.000 And Cuomo said, okay, we'll get rid of it, and then he did another one in a slightly different way that did the same thing.
00:23:05.000 So then it could be challenged again, and months later be ruled to, yeah.
00:23:09.000 And I don't think they brought a challenge at that point, I think they were out of cash.
00:23:12.000 I gotta tell ya, when people start to realize that the courts have no enforcement power, Everything's gonna start breaking down.
00:23:20.000 Because it's always, it's an interesting thing, right?
00:23:21.000 The executive branch has its enforcement power, the judicial, uh, uh, the legislative branch has subpoena power, and they can make criminal referrals.
00:23:28.000 It's a bit weaker.
00:23:29.000 The executive branch is obviously where most of the power is, almost all of it.
00:23:32.000 But the, uh, the courts, what can they do other than bang the gavel and say, do it?
00:23:35.000 And of course, you know, courts have some degree of enforcement, but it's minimal.
00:23:40.000 If a court says something and no one abides it, what do you do?
00:23:44.000 I tell this people when it comes to private matters too, like, you know, it's the old saying, a person can be judgment proof, or you can't get blood, you can't squeeze blood from a turnip.
00:23:52.000 I'm like, if you win a suit against someone, like look at Alex Jones, right?
00:23:56.000 They sue him for, what is it, like the entire GDP of France?
00:23:59.000 Like, that's what they requested.
00:24:00.000 I think they won like a billion dollars.
00:24:02.000 I'm like, you're not gonna get a penny out of him.
00:24:04.000 Because you get in line behind all of his other creditors.
00:24:07.000 Yeah.
00:24:07.000 It's just you can't just make these things happen.
00:24:10.000 There's no guarantees.
00:24:11.000 Also, they're ensuring that he stays on the air because he's going to need to stay on the air in order to earn money to pay them back.
00:24:16.000 Oh, that's funny, too.
00:24:17.000 Unless I think they said they want to destroy him.
00:24:17.000 Yeah.
00:24:20.000 But here's my concern.
00:24:21.000 This is what I was thinking about over this past week.
00:24:25.000 We saw the Chas, the Chop, the George Floyd autonomous zone.
00:24:28.000 We saw the Atlanta autonomous zone.
00:24:30.000 These things popped up.
00:24:31.000 We saw random acts of violence.
00:24:33.000 And now you have, on top of the political violence, a story we'll get to in a minute, a GOP lawyer, we don't know what happened, was killed in his home.
00:24:40.000 He was stabbed to death.
00:24:41.000 Maybe political, maybe not, but we'll talk about that.
00:24:44.000 But with the escalation of political violence that we've been seeing, to the point where Stephen Marsh, who wrote the book The Next Civil War, says we're in civil strife.
00:24:51.000 I had a lingering thought about these autonomous zones.
00:24:56.000 It's funny to me that, so I was trending earlier on Twitter,
00:24:59.000 because I guess- In your own category, right?
00:25:00.000 In my own category too.
00:25:02.000 Yes, the Tim Pool category.
00:25:03.000 Yeah, that's right, Tim Pool, striking Tim Pool.
00:25:05.000 And it was people talking about civil war.
00:25:08.000 It's like, oh, I said it to drink.
00:25:09.000 And I'm like, it's really interesting.
00:25:10.000 You know, honest question.
00:25:12.000 If I were to tell you that say, like a president claimed the election
00:25:17.000 was completely fraudulent, large amounts of his supporters were claiming
00:25:21.000 that he's the true president and Biden's illegitimate.
00:25:24.000 There had been a dispute over who actually won the election in the previous election cycle as well.
00:25:29.000 And then you ended up with a bunch of people storming into the Capitol and fighting with police in front.
00:25:34.000 You also had a roving band of 100-plus far-left extremists storm onto government property in Georgia, And in one instance, get into a shootout with police, shooting a cop, and then the cops shoot back, killing one of the extremists.
00:25:46.000 You have far-left extremists being arrested and charged overtly with domestic terror.
00:25:49.000 I'm like, at what point do you say, maybe, yeah, civil war, right?
00:25:54.000 My point is this.
00:25:55.000 All of that stuff, it's almost like you gotta keep reminding people that, hey, this stuff happened.
00:26:00.000 I don't know where it goes from here, but yeah, far-left extremists took over a government site in Georgia and opened fire on police.
00:26:07.000 After torching several homes in the area, the police came in and returned fire, a cop was struck, and one of the extremists was killed.
00:26:14.000 Like, yo, it's getting crazy, alright?
00:26:15.000 Yeah, that is crazy.
00:26:16.000 Now imagine this scenario.
00:26:18.000 This is what got me worried.
00:26:20.000 Chaz and the George Floyd Autonomous Zone were on public property.
00:26:25.000 The Atlanta Autonomous Zone was on a Wendy's, but the Wendy's was burnt to the ground, and then everyone kind of abandoned the area.
00:26:32.000 So we have these different circumstances.
00:26:35.000 What happens if far-left extremists occupy a piece of private land?
00:26:39.000 Let's say in Georgia or Tennessee or something.
00:26:44.000 Slightly more conservative leaning area, near an urban environment.
00:26:48.000 They occupy, to set up their autonomous zone, on a derelict piece of private property.
00:26:53.000 The person who owns that property then goes to the police and says, get these whack jobs off my property, and the police say, we have no capability to do that.
00:26:59.000 Like we saw with Chaz, and with George Floyd, and Atlanta, the police backed down, and were like, we're not getting involved.
00:27:05.000 But what happens when a private owner, or corporation, says, if the police won't do anything about it, I will?
00:27:11.000 Well, you saw there was a guy in Atlanta who was a landlord.
00:27:15.000 He owned a home.
00:27:17.000 He was renting it out.
00:27:19.000 Tenants moved out.
00:27:20.000 A couple days later, he went to check on the home, and he was met with a guy with a shotgun, a bunch of dogs, and some prostitutes.
00:27:26.000 And he was like, oh, why are these people in my house?
00:27:28.000 He was like, you got to get out of my house.
00:27:30.000 The people in the house, the squatters, called the police, said that it was their home.
00:27:33.000 The police got the guy, you know, carted off.
00:27:36.000 It's six months later.
00:27:38.000 He's still waiting for the people to get out of his house.
00:27:40.000 He's still paying the mortgage!
00:27:42.000 And he's stuck.
00:27:43.000 He doesn't have a property.
00:27:44.000 He doesn't have any rights, apparently.
00:27:46.000 There was also, I mean, the other thing, too, is, like, it depends on where the government is.
00:27:50.000 Do you remember the MOVE organization in Philadelphia?
00:27:52.000 Yeah.
00:27:53.000 And they were bombed, actually, by the city.
00:27:55.000 Yep.
00:27:56.000 But this was a group of black nationalists who had Taken over a little area in Philadelphia in West Philadelphia.
00:28:04.000 They had purchased a property in Virginia and they were planning to move to Virginia get out of the city and there was a shooting of an officer officer ramp.
00:28:13.000 I think it was in 79 and a bunch of people like nine people ended up getting arrested and put in prison for that.
00:28:18.000 They were called the move nine.
00:28:21.000 And so they decided to stay.
00:28:22.000 And by staying, what ended up happening is the mayor of Philadelphia, who was a black mayor, is it Wilson Goode?
00:28:29.000 Am I remembering that correctly?
00:28:30.000 I don't know.
00:28:31.000 Anyway, he coordinated with the FBI and bombed... They firebombed it.
00:28:36.000 They firebombed it.
00:28:37.000 And as people were trying to run out, they shot them.
00:28:41.000 It was like Waco at a neighborhood level.
00:28:43.000 Right.
00:28:44.000 And it was a response to a legitimate issue, but they basically declared war on the neighborhood.
00:28:48.000 And they burned down houses, like, not just the MOVE compound, but they burned down houses in the area as well.
00:28:54.000 You know, that's, uh, when the government was more, uh, had a stronger monopoly on their violence.
00:29:01.000 But the government was in control of the violence at that point, and that's not the same now.
00:29:04.000 Right.
00:29:05.000 And so now, my concern is, what happens if another CHAZ happens, but it happens on, like, Abandoned property.
00:29:12.000 Not even abandoned, derelict is a better way to put it.
00:29:14.000 Like, someone owns it, and they're like, let's say a corporation.
00:29:17.000 You know, Nordstrom just shut down in San Francisco, which is like a big deal.
00:29:21.000 That is a big deal.
00:29:22.000 The mall is still owned, right?
00:29:23.000 I think the building was forfeited by Westfield to the bank.
00:29:29.000 So, okay.
00:29:31.000 Let's say a large corporation owns three acres of land somewhere, and the far left decides, we're gonna take it, and no one can stop us.
00:29:40.000 Cops aren't going to go engage in a shootout.
00:29:41.000 No.
00:29:42.000 They're going to ignore it.
00:29:43.000 Not in an abandoned mall.
00:29:44.000 Not even an abandoned mall.
00:29:45.000 Like, let's imagine it's just like an old warehouse building that's not being used, but it's still on the books for some big corporation or moderately sized corporation.
00:29:53.000 Let's say like medium local or like corporation in a city that's got like a few board members and maybe a couple hundred employees.
00:30:00.000 So it's small enough but big enough.
00:30:02.000 The far left decides we're gonna take it because it's not being used.
00:30:05.000 It's got broken windows and graffitied all over.
00:30:07.000 But the people who own it are still keeping track of it.
00:30:10.000 And then what happens when the police are like...
00:30:12.000 We're not going to do anything.
00:30:13.000 It's not on city property.
00:30:14.000 We're not going to get involved.
00:30:15.000 This is why the second amendment and the right to keep and bear arms for self-defense is so important.
00:30:20.000 Like we see over and over again with Chazz and with Chop, with Uvalde and with Parkland, like when the police have mandated that everyone is vulnerable to violence and that, you know, they're the monopoly on violence, they very often like kind of hang back.
00:30:34.000 And in a way you almost can't blame them because they also want to get home to their families.
00:30:39.000 But they were holding back parents that were trying to get in there.
00:30:42.000 In Uvalde, the guy who actually went in to kill the Uvalde shooter, he was an off-duty Border Patrol agent who ignored their orders not to go in there.
00:30:51.000 That was the most horrifying story.
00:30:53.000 It's horrific.
00:30:54.000 And the case you were talking about, the man in Atlanta, he was trespassed.
00:30:57.000 He was actually arrested until they realized he was the property owner.
00:31:01.000 At some point people need to realize you are your own first responder.
00:31:05.000 All the old cliche stuff our parents said about when seconds count, the police are minutes away.
00:31:10.000 They're minutes away to possibly hold you back as people victimize you.
00:31:15.000 And so we really need to understand just how paramount the right to self-defense is.
00:31:21.000 It's sort of terrifying.
00:31:22.000 I mean, I have, like, tried to avoid interactions with police my entire life.
00:31:26.000 Like, when I was a kid, at one point, there were police in my house, and I was like, ah, I'm not gonna repeat this.
00:31:32.000 This is never happening again.
00:31:34.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:31:34.000 You know?
00:31:35.000 But it's like, it's very scary when you come into contact with police because they show up and they think everybody is the enemy.
00:31:41.000 Head on a swivel, yeah.
00:31:42.000 You know?
00:31:43.000 That's what they do.
00:31:44.000 I mean, well, think about it this way.
00:31:46.000 Remember they killed that Australian lady?
00:31:48.000 There was a... so you guys saw that video where the...
00:31:51.000 what was it, like Extinction Rebellion people or whatever?
00:31:53.000 In Nevada?
00:31:54.000 Have the barricades and... yeah, is that by Burning Man?
00:31:56.000 Yeah, it was all the people trying to get to Burning Man and the climate activists...
00:31:59.000 Were blocking the road.
00:32:00.000 Well, the cops apparently got a call that someone had a gun.
00:32:04.000 I guess what happened was, someone told the police, you need to get down here and clear this barricade before someone shoots one of these protesters, something like that.
00:32:12.000 Then what happens is, the dispatcher says to the police, there's concerns about a potential shooting, we've got protesters, so then the cops think these protesters have guns.
00:32:21.000 And when the cop rams the barricade and jumps out with his gun, he says, where's the gun?
00:32:26.000 Several times.
00:32:27.000 Something like that.
00:32:27.000 I think that, I'm pretty sure.
00:32:28.000 I could be wrong.
00:32:29.000 But think about it from the perspective of a cop.
00:32:31.000 All you know is you got a call from dispatch saying, two people are fighting inside this house.
00:32:37.000 It's getting ugly.
00:32:38.000 We need someone to calm each other down.
00:32:40.000 And then you show up and there's a group of people in the house being like, get out of our house.
00:32:43.000 And some guy's like, that's my house!
00:32:44.000 Like, what do they do?
00:32:46.000 Yeah.
00:32:46.000 The Nevada thing was amazing.
00:32:47.000 They typically do say, civil matter, have a nice day.
00:32:50.000 Right, like the Tracy Chapman song.
00:32:52.000 The Nevada thing was absolutely amazing, though, because you had climate activists blocking the road, you had Burning Man people trying to get through the road, and then you had tribal police show up to clear the road.
00:33:03.000 So the climate change people think they're on the side of the tribal police.
00:33:07.000 They think that they're on the same side as them.
00:33:08.000 The Burning Man people think they're on the side of the climate change people, but it turns out they're not.
00:33:13.000 Meanwhile, the tribal police are the ones who get, like, all, they have all the oppression points, so they're the ones who get to win, and then they show up as a bunch of guys in trucks with guns.
00:33:23.000 It was sort of, it was just fascinating to watch.
00:33:25.000 You did have a bunch of upper-middle class white people occupying native land.
00:33:28.000 Right, and that's one thing they said, you're trespassing on tribal land, is one thing the cops said to these people.
00:33:33.000 I want to jump to this story.
00:33:34.000 This is from NBC Boston.
00:33:37.000 GOP activist and lawyer stabbed to death in his Durham, New Hampshire home.
00:33:41.000 Full stop!
00:33:43.000 We have no idea what happened.
00:33:44.000 It is entirely possible that this guy had a bad poker game and then somebody got mad at him.
00:33:49.000 No idea.
00:33:50.000 He could have been cheating on his wife and then she comes home and says, ah, and then they fight and then she stabs him.
00:33:54.000 We have no idea.
00:33:55.000 However.
00:33:57.000 Not knowing, the issue is typically that whenever we get a news story about a victim who is left... No, no, no, let me stop.
00:34:03.000 I'll put it this way.
00:34:04.000 When Jussie Smollett comes out and claims some guy threw a noose around his neck, the whole world shuts down.
00:34:12.000 Every television network runs a tribute.
00:34:14.000 You get, at the time, Ellen Page saying, like, frantically, because some guy hate crime hoaxed all of us.
00:34:24.000 And then when you get a story about a GOP lawyer being stabbed to death, it's like, well, you know, we don't know exactly, so let's move on from this.
00:34:31.000 That's why I think this story matters.
00:34:33.000 Because maybe people on the right, be it post-liberal, libertarian, whatever you want to call yourself, should start saying, when these things happen, we make the assumption in the worst until we learn otherwise.
00:34:45.000 Because they went Balls to the wall for Jussie Smollett.
00:34:49.000 So how about we say we demand answers as to what happened to this GOP lawyer who got stabbed to death in his own home the police are claiming was self-defense.
00:34:57.000 I'm sorry.
00:34:58.000 It's going to be difficult for you to convince me, and it's possible, that a person in his own home was killed in self-defense by a different person.
00:35:05.000 It's possible.
00:35:06.000 You know, you invite someone to your house and then you have the intent of hurting them and they defend themselves.
00:35:11.000 It can happen.
00:35:12.000 But still, Lawyer in his own house stabbed to death.
00:35:16.000 I'm not leaning towards self-defense here, but I don't know everything.
00:35:19.000 I don't know.
00:35:20.000 It's hard because there's like no arrests made.
00:35:22.000 We're 12 hours out.
00:35:23.000 There's one article up from a local news station saying they've identified the person involved, but they haven't decided what's going on.
00:35:30.000 I mean, The longer there are no answers in communication, the more suspicious it gets, the easier it is to let sort of the conspiracy theory run wild.
00:35:41.000 The day after Jussie Smollett.
00:35:42.000 This has been a week.
00:35:43.000 The day after Jussie Smollett.
00:35:45.000 How about the Bubba Rope incident?
00:35:46.000 Right.
00:35:46.000 The NASCAR thing.
00:35:48.000 It is national news.
00:35:50.000 Headlines.
00:35:51.000 Everywhere.
00:35:52.000 And now we have this story and everyone's been like, well, you know, hold on there a minute, you know, we don't know for sure.
00:35:57.000 Which is the reasonable take to have.
00:35:59.000 Exactly.
00:35:59.000 Like, this is how everyone should respond to stuff like this.
00:36:01.000 Exactly.
00:36:02.000 Let's find out the facts.
00:36:03.000 No, exactly.
00:36:03.000 That's why I said in the beginning, for all we know, we've got a bad poker game.
00:36:06.000 Yeah.
00:36:06.000 But I think the issue here is I'm gonna lean towards, you know, the back of my mind, political.
00:36:14.000 Because when it comes to instances of mass tragedies and the perpetrator's left wing, they disappear.
00:36:21.000 Whenever the bad guy, whenever the person committing the crime happens to fall into the alignment of the corporate narrative, it's like, uh-oh, can't have that one getting out, and the story vanishes.
00:36:29.000 Well, it's like Jacksonville versus Nashville.
00:36:31.000 Just gonna say that, yeah.
00:36:32.000 The manifestos, yeah.
00:36:34.000 That's right.
00:36:34.000 Or how about the guy who rammed the Christmas parade in, uh, where was it?
00:36:38.000 Waukesha.
00:36:39.000 Waukesha.
00:36:40.000 And then it was just like, no idea.
00:36:41.000 A truck did it.
00:36:42.000 A truck crashed into these people.
00:36:45.000 In the literal same city where the Kyle Rittenhouse shootings happened?
00:36:48.000 No, that was Kenosha.
00:36:49.000 Nearby though, nearby.
00:36:51.000 But I think they were triggered by the same- It was a couple days after, because we were in Austin at the time and we- It was after- Kyle Rittenhouse had just gotten, I think within 48 hours this happened.
00:37:00.000 So they were right next to each other, yeah.
00:37:01.000 And he had posted, the guy had had some like BLM related stuff on his Facebook page, but also he had like, Crashed his car into his child's mother before driving to the parade.
00:37:13.000 I mean, obviously it was a very unstable person.
00:37:15.000 And then he stops to try and get a sandwich, remember?
00:37:17.000 Yes, and he represented himself at trial, which was something to behold.
00:37:21.000 Did you see that trial?
00:37:22.000 Oh, I watched a lot of it.
00:37:23.000 I covered it for the site.
00:37:24.000 The patience that judge had.
00:37:26.000 I thought that judge should get a... I mean, because part of it was like, he just kept interrupting.
00:37:30.000 Like, you're saying, you know, when you don't believe in what the courts are ruling, you can kind of defy them.
00:37:34.000 It also turns out that if you don't want to follow the procedures of the court, it is challenging to enforce anything and also ensure the person who's representing themselves gets a fair trial.
00:37:43.000 He had to keep getting sent to another room to watch virtually, and then it's a question of, like, can he accurately represent himself?
00:37:50.000 This is a tangent, this is an aside, but you know, in the case of this lawyer, what's hard is like, either way, loss of life, very sad, you know, the police in this town are saying there's no threat to the public, so it's sort of playing, I actually think it's leaning towards domestic violence, or they're gonna imply it, but like, it is extremely difficult, I totally get you don't wanna Jump the gun and blow something up that you're giving the police a chance to accurately investigate.
00:38:15.000 On the other hand, it is hard to say this is a fairly prominent political figure in a state that's the first in the nation to primary.
00:38:23.000 So we kind of need some information here as soon as possible.
00:38:27.000 And this past week, the GOP was arguing over whether or not to remove Trump from the ballot.
00:38:31.000 So I don't care to give anyone the benefit of the doubt, and my bigger concern is, as a reasonable person, you're right.
00:38:38.000 Domestic probably seems like what this may be.
00:38:41.000 The person who identified may be a significant other, and that's why they're like, Oh my god.
00:38:46.000 And they're saying self-defense, like who else would be in your home?
00:38:48.000 Yeah, who else would be defending themselves in this guy's house?
00:38:50.000 Right, not a visitor, but someone who actually lives there as well.
00:38:53.000 That being said, if the freedom faction of individuals, whatever you want to call that, the anti-establishment faction, does not get serious in their propaganda game, they lose.
00:39:06.000 And I don't mean to just lie, I mean to make noise, at the very least.
00:39:10.000 Win on the merits of being reasonable, that's why I opened the segment by saying, probably a bad poker game, who knows, but be noisy enough about it to force the conversation.
00:39:20.000 Because in the event that there is, and there have been, like Aaron Danielson, for instance, someone shot and killed in the streets of, I think it was Portland, right?
00:39:27.000 It was, yeah, Portland.
00:39:28.000 By a far-left extremist.
00:39:29.000 Michael Reinoehl.
00:39:30.000 These stories need to get max attention.
00:39:33.000 When Andy Ngo was mercilessly beaten and attacked with the concrete milkshakes in Portland as well, right?
00:39:39.000 Yeah.
00:39:39.000 That forced even Brian Stelter to say, OK, you know, we got to talk about this because it's like going massively viral.
00:39:46.000 There's images everywhere.
00:39:47.000 Attention needs to be brought to it.
00:39:49.000 And those are those are the victories where you can start to to convince these regular people who don't pay attention.
00:39:55.000 There's something going on here.
00:39:56.000 And I'll give a specific example.
00:39:58.000 Oliver Anthony.
00:39:59.000 He gets really, really big.
00:40:01.000 He issues these statements after the fact, like, why is Fox News playing my video?
00:40:05.000 Haha, it's about them.
00:40:06.000 He says it's not about politics.
00:40:07.000 It's not because he does not know what the culture war is.
00:40:11.000 Everything he sings about And he's a good avatar for this.
00:40:14.000 Everything he sings about representing working class people is effectively a right, quote-unquote, a culture war right position.
00:40:21.000 But then he doesn't understand because he's not involved deeply in it.
00:40:24.000 So when the media attacks him and calls him conservative, right-wing, and the left says these things, he's like, no, no, no, it's not left or right, I don't know what you're talking about.
00:40:30.000 It's just my lived experience.
00:40:31.000 Well, he didn't even have a Twitter account until August.
00:40:34.000 And now here he is.
00:40:35.000 And that's my point.
00:40:36.000 These regular people, you go to them, they don't understand the depravity and the evil of the uniparty, neocon, neolibs, all of these warmongers and this garbage.
00:40:45.000 They don't get it.
00:40:46.000 The Jussie Smollett stuff, the woke corporations, they think, well, you know, I'm going to be somewhere in the middle, but they don't pay attention.
00:40:53.000 And then when you actually engage and you say something like, Look, I'm not here to argue about policy or anything like that, but it is true that Joe Biden got that prosecutor fired while threatening to withhold a billion dollars.
00:41:05.000 As soon as you say that, you're right-wing.
00:41:07.000 My favorite thing is when he said, you got money for foreign wars, you can't feed the poor.
00:41:11.000 It's like, That's a right-wing talking point.
00:41:13.000 Because the left says, sacrifice for Ukraine.
00:41:16.000 Right.
00:41:16.000 Like, you're in the politics, dude.
00:41:17.000 My point is, normies don't get it.
00:41:19.000 And if you're loud enough, and we bring up more stories like this, and we question these things, maybe they might start to see more of the issue.
00:41:27.000 No, go ahead.
00:41:28.000 No, by all means.
00:41:29.000 Oliver Anthony is kind of the personification of what Pericles said long ago, which is, you may not be interested in politics, but politics are interested in you, and we're seeing that.
00:41:38.000 This is a guy who, you know, writes songs, and he did one about his frustration with how things are going, and it was, I mean, there was a political element to it, but the guy clearly does not want to be political, and it seems like the rest of his songs aren't political to speak of, and he's been thrust into this political battle he didn't want to be a part of.
00:41:58.000 A part of me wants him to just be able to just be a guy who's making songs.
00:42:02.000 Unfortunately, he's being dragged into something he didn't even want to be a part of, which speaks to what you're talking about.
00:42:06.000 It's because there is a culture war.
00:42:08.000 You do not, exactly as you mentioned, Pericles, I think you said, right?
00:42:12.000 You may not be interested in politics, politics is interested in you.
00:42:14.000 There's nothing you can do about it.
00:42:16.000 We're in a culture war.
00:42:17.000 If we were in, if it was 20, 30 years ago, you can say, I don't care for Democrats or Republicans, leave me alone.
00:42:22.000 And people might be like, okay, I get it.
00:42:23.000 Today, doesn't matter.
00:42:25.000 The moment he said minors on an island somewhere, far right.
00:42:28.000 That was it.
00:42:29.000 And then they started accusing him of being QAnon.
00:42:31.000 And he's like, I'm not political.
00:42:32.000 That song's about Joe Biden.
00:42:33.000 Joe Biden's the one funding the foreign wars.
00:42:35.000 And at the very least, while there are many Republicans who want war, there are many who don't.
00:42:40.000 So there's a debate happening over there and not one happening over there.
00:42:43.000 It is clearly more about one side than the other.
00:42:46.000 The other thing too, I mean you were talking about 20 years ago, the culture war, and it's like 20 years ago is about when artists and art programs and all that kind of thing started saying that you have to be an art activist and politics started being really infused into art programs, which is when I was in grad school and that's what it all turned into.
00:43:08.000 Like, I was studying theater, and the next thing I know, it's not about telling a good story, it's not about making something beautiful, it's about infusing your work with political narrative.
00:43:17.000 So that started there, and it's been pushing out this whole way.
00:43:20.000 And now we see, you know, like, Oliver Anthony can't get a song out without it being part of the culture war, but like, also you kind of need to know where you're squatting down, you know what I mean?
00:43:31.000 Like, take a look around.
00:43:33.000 Right, I gotta completely agree with that.
00:43:35.000 The dude, uh, it's an awesome song.
00:43:38.000 I love Richmond, North of Richmond.
00:43:39.000 Obviously, everybody loves it because it's good.
00:43:42.000 But the dude is, he personifies in many ways a regular person.
00:43:46.000 And I mean this with no disrespect.
00:43:47.000 No, like literally.
00:43:48.000 Right.
00:43:49.000 Seeing a lot of these problems we can all kind of identify while being lied to by the corporate press.
00:43:49.000 Yep.
00:43:53.000 He did criticize them for it.
00:43:55.000 But my criticism back is, my dude, you must pay attention.
00:43:58.000 You must recognize who your enemies are and who your friends are.
00:44:01.000 And I'm not saying the Republicans are your friends by no stretch of the imagination.
00:44:04.000 Nikki Haley goes up on stage screaming lies about Putin wanting to invade NATO.
00:44:09.000 So she can justify her insane warmongering.
00:44:11.000 Yeah, Republicans are mostly bad as well.
00:44:13.000 But you need to recognize who will come after you when you say something like minors on an island somewhere, right?
00:44:19.000 It is going to be the politicians who are on that plane, who are typically aligned with the establishment and their corporate allies.
00:44:28.000 Well, and this is, I mean, this comes down to another way of saying you may not be interested in politics, but politics is interested in you, is you may not be interested in democracy, but democracy is interested in you.
00:44:38.000 When more and more decisions that are being made aren't, we aren't allowing individuals to make them, we're democratizing them, what happens is that means that someone has to win.
00:44:49.000 Which means everyone else has to lose, and the people that lose have the winner's opinion enforced on them, whatever that thing is.
00:44:56.000 So it becomes less and less about, I disagree with how you live, or what your opinion is, you disagree about it, but we're living separately.
00:45:02.000 It's, one of us has to win.
00:45:04.000 So now someone that you disagree with is your enemy.
00:45:06.000 And so, of course, the culture war is only going to get worse and worse as things are more centralized and democratized.
00:45:11.000 And the answer, obviously, is the opposite.
00:45:13.000 Decentralization, allowing individuals to make their own decisions.
00:45:17.000 That was one of the things I liked about Oliver Anthony's Rise was that it comes from a kind of growing area of music.
00:45:23.000 I mean, it wasn't from, I don't know where music is headquartered in the U.S., I guess Hollywood and Nashville, depending on what you're doing.
00:45:30.000 It's sort of this other alternative form of music that's getting popular right now.
00:45:34.000 I think there is a desire to decentralize our sort of cultural capstones, but it's very difficult because I think that's not what the system, to give it a broad term, wants you to do.
00:45:46.000 Well, I think the art forms that are the most accessible for decentralization are comedy and music.
00:45:53.000 And so I think that that's in part why we're seeing more counterculture people coming out in music and comedy, but we're not seeing that as much in film.
00:46:03.000 It takes an awful lot of money to create an independent film or a series or a theater performance.
00:46:09.000 Or if you're an actor, if you get that black ball in your file, no one's going to want to hire you.
00:46:13.000 And they're on strike now, which I actually think is a boon to culture.
00:46:16.000 I do too.
00:46:17.000 I think that's a great thing, that all of these people are not right now being paid to create garbage that we have to stuff in our faces, or stuffed in our faces, rather.
00:46:27.000 Let's jump to this next story, because with all the talk about trying to stop Donald Trump and get his name off the ballot, there's another strategy that may be coming.
00:46:35.000 ABC News has this one.
00:46:36.000 President Joe Biden says he will request more funding for a new coronavirus vaccine.
00:46:41.000 President Joe Biden said Friday that he's planning to request more money from Congress to develop another new coronavirus vaccine as scientists track new waves and hospitalizations rise, though not like before.
00:46:51.000 Okay, well what does this mean?
00:46:53.000 On its own, maybe not so much, maybe something.
00:46:55.000 We also have this.
00:46:56.000 Schools close, bring back mask mandates over the rise of COVID-19 cases.
00:47:01.000 I think we got another one here.
00:47:03.000 Citing rising COVID cases, these U.S.
00:47:06.000 hospital systems have now reinstated mask mandates.
00:47:09.000 Yeah.
00:47:10.000 You know, it's really worrying to me that for the first time in human history, a virus is not... We've got seasonal viruses, but now we're dealing with an election seasonal virus, which is particularly worrying.
00:47:21.000 It's crazy!
00:47:22.000 But as always... How does it know?
00:47:24.000 Well, it's just, you know, it's because as more people start gathering to rally, This virus spreads, you know, all people are going to these political rallies.
00:47:24.000 How does it know?
00:47:33.000 Only political rallies.
00:47:35.000 Well, right, makes sense.
00:47:36.000 It knows the in-person voting is coming and so it prepares.
00:47:39.000 But if you're, you know, rioting, it doesn't mind.
00:47:41.000 It's not affected by that.
00:47:42.000 No.
00:47:43.000 They're all wearing masks.
00:47:44.000 Yes, that's so true.
00:47:44.000 The rioters were wearing masks.
00:47:45.000 I mean, but literally, the rioters were wearing masks.
00:47:48.000 They didn't want to be seen either.
00:47:50.000 No, they didn't want to spread the virus, Libby.
00:47:51.000 How could you say that?
00:47:52.000 Oh, of course.
00:47:53.000 As always, as always, I will stress, don't take medical advice from podcasters and talk to your doctor about what's right for you.
00:48:00.000 That being said, it's kind of hilarious that all of these different preparations are being made, and it would seem that another lockdown or heavy mandates are about to unfold.
00:48:12.000 So I'm also not a doctor, I'm just a Jew on the internet, and I can see where the confusion would come.
00:48:19.000 There's something that Biden said during that when he was talking about the new vaccine, that they're going to get funding for a vaccine that works.
00:48:28.000 Let me read the quote.
00:48:32.000 This is from ABC News!
00:48:34.000 Back off, YouTube!
00:48:35.000 I signed off this morning on a proposal we have to present to the Congress a request for additional funding for a new vaccine that is necessary, that works.
00:48:46.000 What is that implication, Mr. President?
00:48:49.000 Now is not the time to be sowing any kind of anti-vaccine conspiracy theories, okay?
00:48:57.000 Why is noted anti-vaxxer Joe Biden not trusting the science?
00:49:03.000 You know Corinne Jean-Pierre is just like, do I say that he mixes up his words sometimes?
00:49:07.000 Or do I say he was misquoted?
00:49:08.000 Like, how do we spin this right now?
00:49:10.000 Make no mistake, that didn't happen.
00:49:12.000 She just has to say it didn't happen.
00:49:14.000 That's true.
00:49:15.000 Gaslight until you win.
00:49:16.000 He added that it's tentatively recommended that everybody get it once the shots are ready.
00:49:21.000 No way!
00:49:21.000 It doesn't exist.
00:49:22.000 We have to pass it before you can find out what happens when you inject it.
00:49:25.000 Like, that's literally... No, you don't need to test vaccines.
00:49:27.000 I don't know what you're talking about.
00:49:29.000 It hasn't even been developed yet, but you have to take it.
00:49:31.000 Yeah.
00:49:31.000 Because this time it will work.
00:49:32.000 And again, this is Joe Biden.
00:49:33.000 Joe Biden, who is also not a doctor, is tentatively recommended.
00:49:36.000 His wife is, though.
00:49:37.000 His wife is a doctor.
00:49:38.000 Dr. Jill.
00:49:39.000 Dr. Jill.
00:49:39.000 She has doctor in her name.
00:49:41.000 She has doctor in her name.
00:49:42.000 That's what her parents named her.
00:49:45.000 She's a doctor of education.
00:49:47.000 But it's not really a doctor.
00:49:47.000 It's called something else.
00:49:48.000 Is it?
00:49:49.000 Yeah.
00:49:50.000 It's not a PhD.
00:49:51.000 It's not a PhD.
00:49:52.000 It's called something else.
00:49:52.000 I'm pretty sure she has her PhD.
00:49:54.000 Nope.
00:49:55.000 It's not a PhD.
00:49:56.000 It's not.
00:49:56.000 It's something else.
00:49:57.000 She doesn't even have a doctorate.
00:49:58.000 It's an educational doctorate, it's called something else.
00:50:01.000 Listen, whatever she is, if she tells me that the thing that hasn't even been invented yet, I have to take it, then I have to trust her, because she does call herself a doctor.
00:50:10.000 Biden did recommend it for everybody.
00:50:13.000 Did you figure out what it is?
00:50:14.000 She has a doctorate in education, but it's not saying it's not considered... It's not a PhD.
00:50:19.000 I'm looking for.
00:50:20.000 Oh, it's an EdHD or something, right?
00:50:21.000 Yeah, it is an HD.
00:50:23.000 But they're saying she can still use the term doctor.
00:50:25.000 Mainstream media is really defending her ability to use it.
00:50:29.000 They really want her to be able to use it.
00:50:30.000 I think that's why she got the PhD.
00:50:32.000 Dr. Jill Biden deserves her title.
00:50:34.000 It's an EDD.
00:50:35.000 She has an EDD.
00:50:35.000 What?
00:50:36.000 Okay, there you go.
00:50:37.000 Or an EdD, right, Educational Doctorate.
00:50:39.000 Okay, so a doctorate, yes, but it's not a PhD.
00:50:40.000 Sounds like trash.
00:50:41.000 Sorry.
00:50:42.000 Sorry, Jill.
00:50:42.000 I don't even, whatever.
00:50:44.000 I don't know, what, philosophical doctor?
00:50:45.000 Is that what a PhD is?
00:50:46.000 Yeah.
00:50:46.000 Yeah.
00:50:46.000 That's just so stupid anyway.
00:50:48.000 Credentialism.
00:50:48.000 Yeah.
00:50:49.000 It is.
00:50:50.000 It's rampant.
00:50:50.000 She slapped a title on the way to cover herself.
00:50:52.000 Also, typically... Dr. Hannah-Claire Brimelow, what were you saying?
00:50:54.000 That's me.
00:50:55.000 Thank you, Dr. Tim Pool.
00:50:55.000 Who's not a medical doctor, but he's a philosophical doctor.
00:50:59.000 No, I think he's a doctor of podcasting.
00:51:01.000 That's true.
00:51:02.000 A P.O.D.
00:51:02.000 You are.
00:51:03.000 A P.O.D.
00:51:03.000 And he's a doctor of trending.
00:51:05.000 Announce the creation of Tim Katz University and the granting of the PhD to Libby.
00:51:12.000 Thank you.
00:51:13.000 I'm excited.
00:51:14.000 No one ever said my university was accredited, but nobody asked.
00:51:17.000 And I tentatively recommend that everyone enroll in this because this is a university that's going to work.
00:51:22.000 Okay, but in all seriousness... It's decentralized.
00:51:24.000 Here's my question to YouTube.
00:51:27.000 This vaccine doesn't exist yet.
00:51:29.000 Are we allowed to question it?
00:51:31.000 Are you allowed to question something that— Dr. Tim Pool, you're posing a really great moral and philosophical question.
00:51:35.000 I can't wait for your course on this in the coming fall term.
00:51:38.000 Are you allowed to question a vaccine they have not yet invented?
00:51:40.000 I don't know.
00:51:40.000 I guess— This is the Socratic method.
00:51:42.000 Look at this.
00:51:42.000 This is perfect.
00:51:45.000 You have to trust the future science.
00:51:48.000 Yes.
00:51:49.000 But now back to the politics.
00:51:50.000 Do you guys think they're going to lock everybody down?
00:51:52.000 I don't, and here's why.
00:51:54.000 The environment—well, let me rephrase that.
00:51:56.000 I think there are some areas, some of the more bluer and more, I guess, more metropolitan areas, might have limited restrictions.
00:52:05.000 I don't think we're going to see the kind of lockdowns we saw before, because that required an environment of people that this was a brand new thing that they were horrified at.
00:52:12.000 I remember when I made my first anti-lockdown video in March of 2020, and I was being attacked by libertarians, many libertarians, who were saying, well, we don't know how serious this is.
00:52:23.000 Maybe we should, you know, maybe we should, you know, wait and see.
00:52:26.000 They were scared.
00:52:26.000 People were legitimately and understandably scared.
00:52:29.000 It might have been the apocalypse.
00:52:30.000 I mean, come on.
00:52:30.000 Everyone was comparing it to the movie Contagion.
00:52:32.000 Sure.
00:52:33.000 And the thing is, had it been that serious, I still would have been against lockdowns because only an idiot would have gone out outside.
00:52:37.000 You wouldn't have needed to mandate it.
00:52:39.000 But it created an environment where average everyday people were like, you know what, let's at least give it a couple weeks.
00:52:45.000 I don't know, let's give it a I don't think that happens this time.
00:52:49.000 COVID never went away and everyone's just like, you know what?
00:52:51.000 We now know what it is.
00:52:52.000 We know our relative risk tolerance and so forth.
00:52:56.000 We're going to live our life kind of doing what we've been saying from all along.
00:52:59.000 If you don't feel well, stay home.
00:53:01.000 And if you think you're a high risk tolerance, then adjust accordingly.
00:53:04.000 And if you don't, then adjust accordingly.
00:53:06.000 I don't think lockdowns are going to be something they're going to be able to do.
00:53:09.000 And even Fauci has thrown around the word endemic, right?
00:53:12.000 It's harder to get people to lock down for something that they've been living with for several years and have figured out how to manage, right?
00:53:18.000 Like, I don't really hear people saying, like, well, you have to test before you come to my wedding or whatever anymore.
00:53:24.000 I also have this theory that they actually don't want full-blown lockdowns because that means that kids would have to go back to online schooling and that really drove a surge in homeschooling.
00:53:33.000 Right.
00:53:33.000 Because it uncovered all these things where parents were mad at us.
00:53:35.000 Because we got to see like that's like it was when my son was doing virtual learning that I realized that they were having a two-day course on what was it white privilege and systemic racism and I got my voice recorder ready and I lined it up and I like voice recorded the whole thing for like the two days of that.
00:53:54.000 That's wild.
00:53:55.000 And my son was like, mom, our whole family is racist.
00:53:57.000 And I was like, no, no, not actually.
00:54:00.000 Also a Democrats president and they don't want massive job losses.
00:54:04.000 So I mean, there's that as well.
00:54:05.000 I don't, I don't see.
00:54:07.000 And they'd can't, and if they had to pay everybody to stay home, they'd have to pull money from Ukraine.
00:54:11.000 And we already know that Zelensky's asked us and Europe to fund the next election.
00:54:16.000 Or they do like they did in 2020 and 2021 and just print out like 40% of all the currency ever created.
00:54:21.000 That worked amazing!
00:54:22.000 And so where we already have high inflation in a year or so later, now you're looking at 15, 20% official inflation and probably closer to 25% unofficial.
00:54:33.000 I just, I don't see that happening.
00:54:35.000 I do.
00:54:35.000 They're, they're pushing these mask mandates.
00:54:37.000 And I think it's a lot of it is like, how far can we push?
00:54:41.000 Government is a habitual line stepper.
00:54:43.000 It is this constant, like, how much can I make people do what I want them to do?
00:54:49.000 But I think they realize that the lockdowns, even with people as scared as they were, they turned up the boiling water a little too hot for the frog to tolerate.
00:54:58.000 They've kind of gone back, and I think now they're going to do these, like, kind of smaller thing, like, well, can we get a mask mandate?
00:55:04.000 But just in, you know, the more blue areas, is that going to work?
00:55:08.000 How far can we push?
00:55:08.000 I don't see lockdowns happening.
00:55:10.000 We were talking about this before, and I said I think that they'll do guidelines.
00:55:13.000 Recommendations?
00:55:14.000 Recommendations, yeah.
00:55:14.000 Oh, guidance.
00:55:15.000 Remember guidance?
00:55:16.000 That was a fun time.
00:55:16.000 That gives them the ability to roll out universal mail-in voting and early voting.
00:55:21.000 Oh, that's happening.
00:55:21.000 No, that's happening.
00:55:22.000 But they'll have an excuse now.
00:55:23.000 They'll say, well, we can't lock everything down because the economy, you know, so we're going to recommend people quarantine, we're going to recommend masks, and we're going to recommend vaccines.
00:55:32.000 And obviously, for those that have decided to quarantine, which is the right thing to do, we're going to send you a mail-in vote.
00:55:38.000 So then what they do is they just say, we're going to send everyone a mail-in vote because we're not going to spy on you and see who's choosing to quarantine and who's not, and that'll be their justification.
00:55:45.000 We're not going to spy on you right now, but we will other times.
00:55:48.000 We are spying on you, but we're not going to admit that we're spying on you.
00:55:52.000 Exactly.
00:55:53.000 Yeah, they're spying on everybody.
00:55:54.000 That's next in the new update.
00:55:56.000 I think it would be hard to get certain states to lock down, especially governors that are ambitious politically, having seen basically DeSantis's rise because of his stance against lockdowns.
00:56:07.000 I think you would maybe get a couple blue governors who are like, this is a morally correct thing to do.
00:56:13.000 But for the most part, they know it's it's essentially a political death sentence.
00:56:18.000 They got to do something because Trump's going to win.
00:56:22.000 Trump lost.
00:56:23.000 I love the Never Trumpers and they're like, Trump can't possibly win.
00:56:25.000 He lost by 42,000 votes in three states.
00:56:28.000 He just needs to win these swing states.
00:56:30.000 That's the key right now.
00:56:31.000 The country's massively divided.
00:56:32.000 Which one are they?
00:56:32.000 It's Georgia, Arizona, and Wisconsin?
00:56:35.000 Is that what is being talked about?
00:56:36.000 Those three?
00:56:37.000 Either Wisconsin or Michigan.
00:56:38.000 I think it's Wisconsin.
00:56:39.000 He's got no chance in Michigan.
00:56:41.000 He won Michigan in 2016, but it was by a sliver, yeah.
00:56:44.000 And then they got Whitmer.
00:56:46.000 No, but someone want to look up what the margins were in 2020?
00:56:49.000 We know what they were in Georgia, 11,780.
00:56:53.000 Right, I think in Michigan it might have been like 20,000 or something.
00:56:57.000 I could be wrong.
00:56:58.000 I'll look it up.
00:57:00.000 Look, I think Trump can recover in any one of these states.
00:57:03.000 I think Trump could even get a couple percentage points of the popular vote and the reason is You know, you get all these people that think 2020 was stolen because fraudulent ballots and double counting and things like that.
00:57:15.000 It's like, okay, sure, fine, maybe, whatever, prove it.
00:57:18.000 Maybe you're right.
00:57:19.000 I think the real issue is actually simple.
00:57:21.000 Everyone was locked in their house and the mail-in votes arrived.
00:57:23.000 It's just a really simple equation.
00:57:25.000 Lock everyone inside house, mail them ballot, blame Trump, then knock on their door and say, can I have that ballot back, please?
00:57:33.000 Now, if there's no lockdown, they'll go knock on the door, and let's say the failure rate here is only 7%.
00:57:39.000 Let's say 93% of the doors they knock on, someone is home, and we'll fill out the ballot and give it back.
00:57:46.000 A 7% drop, Trump wins.
00:57:48.000 Even 7%, we saw that from the story about Donald Trump and the Hunter Biden laptop story.
00:57:55.000 That if, what did they say?
00:57:57.000 Yeah, it was like 17%.
00:57:58.000 Wasn't it 17%?
00:57:58.000 No, it was like- Said that they would have changed their vote if they had known about the laptop.
00:58:04.000 And that accounted for, they said something like if 7% of people did not vote Democrats or switched for Trump, Trump wins.
00:58:11.000 I think it was less than seven, it was like a lot less.
00:58:13.000 It was 42,000 in a few states.
00:58:16.000 If the Democrats lose a small fraction of the people who are locked in their houses, they can't win.
00:58:23.000 I don't care what the popular vote is, even if Trump could or couldn't get it.
00:58:26.000 The electoral vote, they're not going to be able to secure.
00:58:29.000 Not to mention, you know, the economy's bad.
00:58:32.000 You know what?
00:58:32.000 Let's do this.
00:58:33.000 I have this video I want to pull up for you that's going viral.
00:58:36.000 Ian Miles Chong has this tweet.
00:58:39.000 Life is hard and it's getting harder for the middle class.
00:58:41.000 I'll just play a little bit of this clip for you guys.
00:58:44.000 Seriously, my bills alone are $3,000 a month.
00:58:48.000 I'm a single mom who receives fucking like $300 a month in child support for two kids.
00:58:55.000 I can't do this anymore.
00:58:58.000 I work every single day.
00:59:01.000 I get maybe a day off.
00:59:03.000 Sometimes if I'm lucky, I'll get two fucking days off.
00:59:07.000 I'm sick of it.
00:59:08.000 I'm so sick of this.
00:59:11.000 And I fucking forgot to pay my daughter's braces.
00:59:15.000 And now I have to bring her in for them to remove them because I can't afford to pay it all off at once.
00:59:22.000 I am so sick of this country.
00:59:24.000 I'm so sick of how expensive everything fucking is.
00:59:27.000 Something needs to happen.
00:59:29.000 And that something is Donald Trump.
00:59:31.000 No, I'm half kidding.
00:59:32.000 But maybe if you, to this woman, and not personally, but in general, The economy was really, really great in 2019.
00:59:40.000 It was nice.
00:59:42.000 I went, I love telling this story, went to a furniture store, we were starting the podcast, this is like January, this is January of 2020, and starting to test our own.
00:59:52.000 And I said, I'd like to buy some furniture.
00:59:54.000 We need a table that we can sit at.
00:59:56.000 And so we bought a table.
00:59:57.000 And the woman who was doing the sales was really excited as she wrote up the $5,000 ticket for all the crazy stuff we were buying to build a studio.
01:00:03.000 And she was laughing.
01:00:05.000 She was like, she was like, thank you so much.
01:00:07.000 She's like, I gotta be honest, this is a really great day for me.
01:00:07.000 She's like, wow.
01:00:09.000 You walked in and just bought it on the spot.
01:00:11.000 And I was like, well, we know we needed it.
01:00:12.000 You guys had it.
01:00:13.000 We had checked it out before.
01:00:14.000 And she was like, man, it's just been going really good for me.
01:00:17.000 And I was like, what happened?
01:00:18.000 She goes, this has been the best year of my life.
01:00:20.000 She's like, I've never made more money.
01:00:21.000 We had a contractor doing work for the studio.
01:00:24.000 And he said, I've never made more money in my life.
01:00:26.000 It's been absolutely fantastic.
01:00:28.000 Then COVID hits.
01:00:30.000 Trump loses.
01:00:31.000 Now you have Biden and all the ramifications that came with COVID, which was both Republicans and Democrats.
01:00:36.000 And now you have these people under Joe Biden saying, I hate this effing country.
01:00:41.000 I'm sick of how expensive everything is.
01:00:42.000 It's like, okay, let me show you another story.
01:00:45.000 Let me see if we have it here from, no, it's not there.
01:00:48.000 From the Postmillennial.
01:00:48.000 Here we go.
01:00:50.000 Washington Power Company raises rates to cover increased expense due to climate legislation.
01:00:55.000 AG's office instructs them not to tell consumers the reason for higher prices.
01:00:59.000 Keep voting for him!
01:01:01.000 Keep voting for him!
01:01:02.000 Vivek Ramaswamy goes on stage and says that the climate change agenda, the anti-carbon agenda, is the wet blanket on the economy.
01:01:10.000 It's right there in your face.
01:01:11.000 So if you're wondering why it is that you are struggling, blame the Democrats and the far leftists and the people who are trying to shut down energy.
01:01:19.000 But hey, Don't let me just give a free pass to Republicans.
01:01:22.000 I'm not a big fan of them either.
01:01:23.000 But if you're coming and advocating for a carbon neutral energy policy and then telling us we can't have nuclear energy, I say F off.
01:01:30.000 You're a liar.
01:01:31.000 Well, because they are a liar, because nuclear energy is the cleanest, most efficient power.
01:01:36.000 It's also the most carbon neutral one.
01:01:37.000 So like from their own talking point of the most important thing, more so than anything else, is that the energy that we're getting is as carbon neutral as possible.
01:01:45.000 Nuclear energy per kilowatt hour is exponentially more carbon neutral than the so-called renewables are.
01:01:51.000 We also have an issue, too, where nuclear energy is something that we can generate here in the United States, whereas solar... We don't want to generate our own energy!
01:02:00.000 No, why would we want to do that?
01:02:02.000 Where, like, solar and wind, we have to go buy all that stuff from other countries, import it over here, using fossil fuels, of course, for our boats and whatnot.
01:02:09.000 Yeah, it's also the safest form of energy production.
01:02:12.000 Nuclear is.
01:02:13.000 I blame the boomers for that.
01:02:14.000 This is 100% the boomers.
01:02:16.000 Yeah, because there were nuclear weapons, they freaked out because they had to hide under their desks in the 1950s as school children, and then they took over the world and decided to delete everything that was worthwhile.
01:02:27.000 This is your fault, Dad.
01:02:28.000 It's the whale's fault.
01:02:30.000 It's the whale's fault, and I can explain.
01:02:37.000 Sweet, delicious whale.
01:02:39.000 No, I'm kidding.
01:02:40.000 I've actually had whale before, it's disgusting and I don't recommend it.
01:02:42.000 Seems greasy.
01:02:44.000 I was really looking forward to that theory.
01:02:45.000 No, no, no, it is the whale's fault, I'll explain.
01:02:47.000 So Greenpeace, right?
01:02:49.000 They were concerned about nuclear tests that were being done in the ocean.
01:02:54.000 The initial purpose of Greenpeace, this is my understanding, was to stop these nuclear tests.
01:02:59.000 So they would get their little boat, and they would go and sit in these areas where they wanted to do nuclear tests, and then they were like, we can't do it, because they're there.
01:03:06.000 And part of the reason was that it was devastating to whale populations.
01:03:09.000 It saved the whales.
01:03:10.000 One of the co-founders of Greenpeace broke off and formed Sea Shepherds to protect whales.
01:03:14.000 So this initial activism to stop nuclear weapons from Greenpeace transformed into a desperate, well, now that we stopped something that's bad, how can we squeeze the teat milk all these other morons for their donations. And Greenpeace
01:03:27.000 went from let's stop nuclear bombs into how can we lie to people to
01:03:31.000 keep maintaining our facade of environmentalism. They now just say whatever
01:03:35.000 stupid garbled nonsense they have to to trick morons into giving them money. One of
01:03:38.000 those things is that nuclear power is bad and they revel in it because they make
01:03:42.000 lots of money from it. It's a cash game and it's beautiful profit. And going
01:03:45.000 back to what Libby said it all started with their opposition to nuclear weapons
01:03:50.000 testing.
01:03:50.000 So this would be like opposing solar panels because of melanoma or something like that.
01:03:54.000 It has nothing to do with it.
01:03:56.000 It's literally, it is what, and in fact, the reason that we tend to use the less efficient hard water reactors is because the US government and other governments prioritized the production of nuclear weapons Over actual energy production, whereas newer forms of nuclear energy production, like thorium salt reactors and things like that, are far more efficient.
01:04:18.000 The half-life of the waste only lasts, I think, like a hundred years instead of tens of thousands of years.
01:04:25.000 Right, I've been reading about that.
01:04:26.000 In every way, it's better.
01:04:27.000 It's meltdown-proof.
01:04:28.000 I'm not going to try again.
01:04:29.000 I'm not a scientist.
01:04:30.000 I'm just a Jew.
01:04:31.000 But in every way, it's even safer than nuclear, which is already exponentially safer and better than everything.
01:04:37.000 Now we've got the advent of fusion.
01:04:39.000 Which, uh, I believe they've already reached ignition.
01:04:42.000 Big stories.
01:04:43.000 Now they've actually, they're trying to figure out how to actually capture the energy from the ignition process.
01:04:47.000 Right.
01:04:47.000 Miniature suns, I guess.
01:04:49.000 Uh, that's going to kick off an energy expansion by which human race has never experienced.
01:04:54.000 And we are going to, we, we, Elon Musk, we need you.
01:04:58.000 You know why?
01:04:58.000 We need Elon Musk.
01:04:59.000 Rapid energy expansion.
01:05:01.000 I don't know the actual numbers for the exponential increase in energy output that we'll get from fusion relative to fossil fuels, but I believe nuclear is the most efficient, I believe, correct?
01:05:12.000 The highest energy output that we have.
01:05:15.000 It's remarkable, it's carbon neutral and it's got a massive energy output and they don't do it.
01:05:19.000 So I watch this really amazing little mini documentary on energy.
01:05:24.000 It starts with human energy.
01:05:25.000 We eat food, convert that food into kinetic energy through our muscles, the sugars, and we build things.
01:05:30.000 We then figured out, hey, this big creature over here can pull it for me.
01:05:35.000 And so they strapped it to a cow, made the cow pull.
01:05:37.000 It's animal energy.
01:05:38.000 Then we started burning wood, then coal.
01:05:41.000 We get petroleum, all of these rapid expansions of energy extraction rapidly increase human population,
01:05:49.000 technological development, et cetera.
01:05:51.000 Once fusion kicks off, if we get to that point where we've got fusion reactors everywhere,
01:05:56.000 And we need them fast.
01:05:57.000 Well, and that's the whole point, right?
01:05:58.000 The whole point of humanity, to a large degree anyway, is to create more stuff, to go faster, to go further, right?
01:06:08.000 So, you could look, I mean, people do.
01:06:09.000 They look at the history of humanity as the history of energy consumption and energy creation.
01:06:14.000 And we do that.
01:06:15.000 And so, like, we hit fossil fuels, which was great, which elevated so many millions of people out of poverty globally.
01:06:22.000 And now we're asking the entirety of humanity to take a step backwards by using less good energy resources instead of exploring and developing better ones.
01:06:32.000 Nuclear is the way to go forward.
01:06:34.000 Or this, you know, this other fusion thing is the way to go forward.
01:06:38.000 That's how we get to other planets.
01:06:40.000 And that is, of course, the goal.
01:06:42.000 Well, whether or not we go to other planets can be your opinion, whatever.
01:06:46.000 We can simplify this for the average working class person.
01:06:48.000 But we are explorers.
01:06:49.000 Right, right, right.
01:06:50.000 But I just want to say this for the average person who says, bro, I don't care about Mars, I don't care about Venus, I don't care about Neptune or Alpha Centauri or whatever.
01:06:56.000 I just want to know why I can't buy bread.
01:06:58.000 You can't buy bread because they are putting a wet blanket on the economy.
01:07:02.000 They could build nuclear.
01:07:03.000 They ain't gonna do it.
01:07:05.000 They want to shut down your fossil fuels without giving you an alternative because the real answer, the real reason they're doing it is probably communism.
01:07:11.000 And so, they want to restrict what you can do, control what you can do, and you suffer because of it.
01:07:17.000 Keep voting for them.
01:07:18.000 Look, I don't blame this lady who's talking about her kids and the hardships she's dealing with because everyone's dealing with that.
01:07:22.000 I don't blame the working class for being exploited.
01:07:25.000 But to a certain degree, I beg of these people to pay attention.
01:07:29.000 It's why it's so important.
01:07:30.000 When people are like, ah, don't pay attention to politics, I'm like, dude, I have little respect for that because you can't complain about why the prices are so high and then say, but I don't do anything about it.
01:07:39.000 Or even know why.
01:07:40.000 Or know why.
01:07:40.000 Your complaints, they mean nothing to me.
01:07:43.000 You come to me and be like, well, my house is burning down.
01:07:45.000 I have no idea what's happening.
01:07:46.000 I just like lighting matches in my living room and flicking them onto the floor.
01:07:48.000 And I'm like, okay, well, maybe that's what caused your problem.
01:07:51.000 Maybe you did a thing and you're not paying attention to it and you burned your house down.
01:07:55.000 I was surprised in that.
01:07:56.000 Oh, go ahead.
01:07:56.000 I'm sorry.
01:07:57.000 I just keep voting.
01:07:57.000 No, that's it.
01:07:58.000 They keep voting for this.
01:07:59.000 I was surprised in the video that you can repossess someone's braces.
01:08:03.000 Yeah, that is sort of fascinating to me.
01:08:05.000 Well, I think the issue is they have to get taken off and so she has to choose to pay to have them removed or go into like default, go into debt from the maintenance of them.
01:08:15.000 I did always wonder that though, like for any of these procedures or like Invisalign or any of this, if you're on installment plans, what happens if you don't pay it?
01:08:22.000 They repossess.
01:08:23.000 They re-pull your braces.
01:08:24.000 They re-pull your braces or your retainer, I guess.
01:08:26.000 I don't think that's what it is.
01:08:27.000 I think the doctor's more than happy to leave the braces on your mouth indefinitely because, screw you, you can't pay.
01:08:33.000 And she's saying, I can't afford this.
01:08:35.000 So we have to stop.
01:08:36.000 So we have to stop and get them taken off.
01:08:38.000 Oh, okay.
01:08:40.000 You know, I battled this in 2020, because I was traveling the country campaigning for vice president, and I would talk to people who would go, yeah, you know, things are bad, but if they could just, you know, get us reliable checks.
01:08:50.000 And I was trying to explain to them, like, okay, what's happening right now is they've essentially shut down production for the most part.
01:08:58.000 And they're going to print out ridiculous amounts of the currency that you use every day to buy things, and they're going to hand it to you.
01:09:04.000 But in doing so, they're also going to hand a bunch off to the multi-trillion dollar companies at the same time, and they're going to get the lion's share of it.
01:09:10.000 But in doing so, they're going to greatly expand the amount of currency without adding value.
01:09:16.000 They're actually taking away value by making you stay home, so you have more money chasing fewer goods and services And in very short order, once things begin to turn back to normal, you're going to see shortages.
01:09:28.000 You're going to see supply chain issues.
01:09:30.000 And yeah, you're going to see rapid price inflation because price inflation is just an extension of monetary inflation.
01:09:35.000 And that's what we've seen.
01:09:36.000 And, you know, you had a handful of people in D.C.
01:09:38.000 like Thomas Massey and Justin Amash and a handful of others who were speaking out against this.
01:09:44.000 Everyone else, either because they wanted it or because they were afraid to go against the corporate media narrative about it, they went along with it.
01:09:50.000 And we're now suffering the consequences of it.
01:09:52.000 And to be fair, I was more in line with Trump.
01:09:58.000 Spend the money, figure it out.
01:10:00.000 And I think hindsight being 20-20, we now realize the mistake that was.
01:10:03.000 But I think for the most part, too many of us trusted the machine when it said we were dealing with a deadly pandemic.
01:10:08.000 We saw these videos coming out of China, and I think good people tried to be good people and said, look, you know, like, these people collapsing, it's terrifying.
01:10:16.000 Now we look back and we're like, okay, it was bad, but like, man, did they overhype this and drive us into the ground over nonsense.
01:10:21.000 And the real reason was probably political control.
01:10:23.000 Well, they also hid origins.
01:10:25.000 Right.
01:10:25.000 Yeah, they still do.
01:10:26.000 They still do.
01:10:28.000 And the thing is, we're not, we aren't quite at smoking gun territory yet, but we're at, like, the smell of gunpowder territory.
01:10:36.000 It's like, I mean, we're getting there where we already, here's what we already know.
01:10:40.000 The NIH-funded Echo Health Alliance using gain-of-function research to greatly increase the function and to humanize viruses that were at least, the one that we know of, is at least, I think, either 96% or 98% genetically similar to the virus that creates COVID-19, SARS-CoV-2.
01:11:01.000 So we don't have that smoking gun yet, but it was at the Wuhan lab that it happened at, and as soon as anyone even asked a question about it, they were called racist!
01:11:10.000 Racist!
01:11:11.000 Because that led me to start saying everything was racist.
01:11:15.000 Like, you know, my son would be like, Mom, can we go to Walmart?
01:11:18.000 And I'd be like, that's racist.
01:11:19.000 Can we have spaghetti for dinner?
01:11:22.000 That's not racist.
01:11:23.000 That's like the one thing I always make for dinner.
01:11:25.000 Here's what's wild about that.
01:11:26.000 They were saying, gain-of-function research, that's racist.
01:11:29.000 It's because Chinese people were eating bats.
01:11:32.000 We're like, oh, okay.
01:11:35.000 Hold on there a minute.
01:11:35.000 Wait, that sounds racist to me.
01:11:37.000 Right.
01:11:38.000 Well, we, uh, no one's ever accused them of not being hypocrites, so.
01:11:43.000 Fair enough.
01:11:43.000 No, that's actually true.
01:11:44.000 You've got segregationist ally Joe Biden in there, the man who is famous for in the 19- The crime bill.
01:11:52.000 The crime bill, uh, the, uh, in the 1970s, okay, forced segregation had ended at what, like, several years prior to that, at that point, and he was He was in an interview, he said that he had an issue with integration because he feared that his children were going to grow up in a racial jungle.
01:12:09.000 Right, with Corn Pops kids.
01:12:11.000 With Corn Pops kids!
01:12:13.000 Yeah, I got a couple theories about Corn Pop on this one too.
01:12:16.000 One...
01:12:17.000 This is a long time ago.
01:12:18.000 This is back, like, how old was Joe Biden and the Corn Pop story?
01:12:20.000 This is segregation era.
01:12:23.000 So I'm wondering if Corn Pop was a black dude and the real issue that Joe Biden had with him was his race.
01:12:29.000 Here's, you know, a guy who's not supposed to be here.
01:12:32.000 I also think the simpler answer is that Joe Biden told the story about how little kids were rubbing his legs.
01:12:36.000 I bet Corn Pop was like, hey, you creep.
01:12:39.000 Get off them kids!
01:12:41.000 And then he holds a chain and he's like, what'd you say to me?
01:12:43.000 I was gonna say, even by his own story, it started because he was making fun of the black man's hair, the guy got upset, and so he responded by threatening to hang him with a chain!
01:12:54.000 Like, this is his story.
01:12:56.000 This is the Democratic incumbent.
01:12:58.000 This is his endearing lynching story.
01:13:01.000 It's Joe Biden's endearing lynching story.
01:13:03.000 Minutes, moments earlier that day where he talked about how he would force black children's faces under the water so they could stroke his legs or whatever.
01:13:12.000 I was like, yeah, this is a great story, Joe.
01:13:14.000 This is very bizarre.
01:13:15.000 That's why I kind of think that Corn Pop probably saw him doing that, because that's part of the story.
01:13:20.000 It's like, the kids, they'd rub my, I got hairy legs, and the kids would rub my legs.
01:13:23.000 Yeah, they loved it.
01:13:24.000 There's a cartoon of that.
01:13:26.000 That is so nasty.
01:13:28.000 So weird!
01:13:29.000 It's not like he has a history of sniffing children's hair.
01:13:32.000 We've all been kids.
01:13:33.000 Did you ever feel compelled to rub somebody's leg?
01:13:35.000 A strange man's leg?
01:13:36.000 A strange man's leg?
01:13:39.000 Here, I'll play it.
01:13:39.000 Oh, there's the video.
01:13:40.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:13:41.000 I got hairy legs that turn, that turn blonde in the sun.
01:13:49.000 That child's face is all of us.
01:13:50.000 I used to come up and reach in the pool and rub my leg down so it was straight, and then watch the hair come back up again.
01:13:57.000 They'd look at it.
01:13:58.000 So I learned about roaches.
01:13:59.000 I learned about kids jumping on my lap.
01:14:01.000 Oh yeah, he called them roaches, yeah.
01:14:02.000 Called black children roaches.
01:14:03.000 And I love kids jumping on my lap.
01:14:05.000 Yikes.
01:14:07.000 Maybe Cornpop was just mad that he was calling black children roaches.
01:14:10.000 The entirety of that story, there is nothing about it that isn't creepy or racist.
01:14:17.000 And it was presented as... Wholesome.
01:14:20.000 This is where he told the corn pop story, right?
01:14:22.000 Yes.
01:14:22.000 This video is like from a few years ago.
01:14:23.000 Yeah, this was on the campaign trail.
01:14:25.000 All the time.
01:14:26.000 He was calling little black kids roaches?
01:14:28.000 Yes, he said he loves roaches in that clip.
01:14:30.000 Yeah.
01:14:31.000 But I think everyone's like, what is this person talking about?
01:14:32.000 Who even knows?
01:14:33.000 I didn't even know that he was calling that 29.
01:14:36.000 Cause you don't, it's so funny.
01:14:36.000 I didn't know.
01:14:37.000 I love roaches.
01:14:38.000 I had no idea what he meant.
01:14:39.000 This is where he told the corn pop story, right?
01:14:41.000 Yes.
01:14:42.000 Okay.
01:14:43.000 Joe Biden's racist.
01:14:44.000 News at 11.
01:14:45.000 Yeah.
01:14:45.000 Well, yeah.
01:14:47.000 But the proof has been there the whole time.
01:14:49.000 Like, that's what's so interesting about hearing, like, someone recite it and be like, and then he said this crazy thing.
01:14:53.000 And they said this crazy thing.
01:14:54.000 And it's like, oh, wait, he has been open about this the entire time.
01:14:58.000 And somehow they have repackaged him enough to get him to the presidency.
01:15:02.000 Like, that's the craziest part to me.
01:15:04.000 What I think is really wild, too, is that we keep having all of this stuff come out about Hunter Biden, about his foreign business relations, about how Joe Biden was on speakerphone calls, right?
01:15:13.000 He was on speakerphone calls with executives of Burisma, you know, saying like, hey, hey, dad, these guys could use our help, you know, and Biden being like, OK, that sounds great, you know?
01:15:25.000 Pleasantries.
01:15:26.000 And then get off the phone.
01:15:27.000 We keep seeing all of this stuff.
01:15:29.000 We see the documents from Comer that come out.
01:15:32.000 We see, like, all of this about all of this potential bribery stuff.
01:15:35.000 And it just doesn't seem to make a dent anywhere.
01:15:38.000 It doesn't seem to, like, impact the culture at large.
01:15:41.000 It doesn't seem to, like, get any kind of foothold.
01:15:44.000 And I was listening to another one of these stupid podcasts.
01:15:47.000 Hey, that's our industry, right?
01:15:50.000 Not these podcasts.
01:15:51.000 Not like this good podcast.
01:15:52.000 That was a qualifier.
01:15:53.000 Stupid podcast.
01:15:54.000 on another NPR podcast.
01:15:56.000 Oh, OK.
01:15:56.000 That makes me just very stupid.
01:16:00.000 And they were saying that the David Weiss investigation into Hunter Biden, of course, because the attorney general
01:16:06.000 who foiled the investigation is now the special counsel
01:16:09.000 for the investigation.
01:16:10.000 They were saying that David Weiss would be unlikely to use any of the information dug up by
01:16:15.000 Congress because it would be irrelevant to his case.
01:16:18.000 How is that possibly irrelevant?
01:16:20.000 That the president and his son took like $10 million bribe, Because they're nice guys!
01:16:26.000 Because he's got hairy legs!
01:16:28.000 He's got hairy legs and a mansion in Malibu.
01:16:34.000 One of the things that frustrated me the most during the Trump presidency was when he got elected, or shortly before he got elected, he found out, or we all found out, that Obama's FBI had been spying on him.
01:16:45.000 Explicitly to try to make sure that he could get basically what they're doing now, to prosecute him so he couldn't run and he'd be in prison.
01:16:51.000 So he knew that, now he's in office.
01:16:52.000 Then while he's in office, they do the Steele dossier, they do all the so-called PP story, the golden shower story, they do all this stuff to not just discredit him, But to try to now try him essentially for treason and to impeach him for that, and I thought, here it comes.
01:17:07.000 This man's been talking about smashing the deep state.
01:17:09.000 I've been advocating for the abolition of the FBI for quite some time.
01:17:12.000 It's gonna happen.
01:17:13.000 And then he would sign off on omnibus bill after omnibus bill that gave them even more funding than they had gotten previously.
01:17:20.000 And then you would hear like you know when something would happen like the chaos that was happening during some of the riots and he would call for like federalizing the police response and it was like you're not getting it like it's not they're not just against you this system is a bad system that needs to be smashed you said you were going to do it you were elected at least in part you were elected because you weren't Hillary Clinton but you were elected at least in part because you said you were going to smash the system I feel like I'm that meme where I'm poking with a stick and saying, you know, come on, do the system smashing.
01:17:49.000 Hate that possum!
01:17:51.000 Hate that possum!
01:17:52.000 Yeah, just please, come on, you know, smash the system.
01:17:54.000 And even now he's not calling for ending the FBI.
01:17:57.000 Let's talk about this story.
01:17:58.000 We have this from the Post Millennial.
01:17:59.000 We have a lot of Post Millennial tonight, huh?
01:18:00.000 Former Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin confirms he was fired after Joe Biden demanded it.
01:18:07.000 Now, a couple years ago there was a sworn affidavit from Viktor Shokin where he attests to just this, but now we have him giving a public statement on this where he spoke to Fox News and he outright said, yeah, so that's your story Libby, why don't you tell us what happened?
01:18:21.000 Yeah, so basically, Viktor Shokin went on with Bret Baier, and he confirmed that he was told when he got fired that it was Joe Biden's wish that he be fired.
01:18:30.000 Let's slow down real quick.
01:18:31.000 There may be a lot of people who have no idea who this guy is.
01:18:34.000 Do you want me to do like a whole thing?
01:18:35.000 Yeah.
01:18:36.000 I'll just give you the general gist, and then you can take it away a little bit more.
01:18:39.000 I'll give it a shot, yeah.
01:18:40.000 Joe Biden flew to Ukraine, said, I will illegally withhold aid.
01:18:45.000 He didn't say illegally, he said, I will withhold aid, a billion dollars, unless you fire a prosecutor.
01:18:50.000 This is the the crux of the whole argument either against Trump demanding his impeachment or against Joe Biden for being corrupt.
01:18:57.000 Victor Shokin is the guy who got fired.
01:18:59.000 He is saying he got fired because Joe Biden demanded it.
01:19:02.000 And Joe Biden likely took bribes anyway.
01:19:04.000 Yeah.
01:19:04.000 So I was going to look up the story, but I'm just going to go from memory because my Google isn't working.
01:19:11.000 Yeah, so basically, Victor Shoken was a prosecutor who was investigating Burisma.
01:19:16.000 He was investigating Burisma because he was concerned that they were doing illegal energy deals.
01:19:22.000 And who is Burisma?
01:19:23.000 Burisma is a Ukrainian energy company on whose board Hunter Biden sat.
01:19:28.000 He was getting $83,000 a month.
01:19:31.000 His business partner, Devin Archer, was also on the board.
01:19:34.000 They were getting this money.
01:19:35.000 They don't have any expertise in energy.
01:19:38.000 Burisma was interested in entering the U.S.
01:19:40.000 market.
01:19:41.000 They were under investigation in Ukraine, which makes it tough to enter a U.S.
01:19:46.000 market at that point because you're already looked at as kind of shady.
01:19:50.000 So basically what happened was the CEO of Burisma signed on Hunter Biden and Devin Archer to help them with the U.S.
01:19:58.000 market slash get influence through then VP Joe Biden.
01:20:04.000 So Joe Biden knew the Burisma guys.
01:20:06.000 There were meetings with, you know, he met them.
01:20:09.000 He ended up on phone calls with them at these meetings.
01:20:13.000 Victor Shokin was the prosecutor tasked with investigating that.
01:20:17.000 Joe Biden was the White House.
01:20:23.000 He was the guy for the White House overseeing Ukraine during the Obama administration.
01:20:27.000 So there had been $1 billion in loan guarantees that were approved for Ukraine.
01:20:32.000 Joe Biden was meant to go to Ukraine, deliver the loan guarantees.
01:20:37.000 He said, I'm going to withhold this money unless you fire Shokin.
01:20:42.000 He said this to Petro Poroshenko, who was Zelensky's predecessor.
01:20:47.000 So he said this, Poroshenko was like, okay, Shokin is totally fired now, and we'll take the money.
01:20:56.000 Joe Biden then went on A panel, it was televised, and he bragged about this.
01:21:01.000 He told this story just as eloquently as he told that corn pop leg hair story.
01:21:06.000 He went on about it.
01:21:08.000 He said he's not hiding anything!
01:21:09.000 No, he was very proud of what he had done, claiming that Shokin was corrupt, and that they got their own guy in there.
01:21:17.000 So, okay.
01:21:19.000 That is a thing that happened.
01:21:21.000 Then Donald Trump, in July 2019, Joe Biden had announced her presidency in April of that year.
01:21:28.000 Donald Trump makes a phone call to then, you know, President Zelensky, who had replaced Poroshenko, and he says, hey, we've got this money coming for you.
01:21:36.000 I think it was $391 million, way less than a billion, by the way.
01:21:41.000 We have this money coming for you.
01:21:43.000 Congress has approved it.
01:21:45.000 That's cool.
01:21:46.000 But also I'm interested to know What impact Joe Biden had on the firing of Viktor Shokin?
01:21:55.000 Was he involved?
01:21:56.000 You know, let's sort of hash that out.
01:21:58.000 That phone call was recorded.
01:22:00.000 It was leaked.
01:22:00.000 The transcript of that was leaked.
01:22:02.000 And then in there, you know, the media had a field day with it.
01:22:08.000 Donald Trump is withholding funds from Ukraine unless they investigate Joe Biden.
01:22:12.000 So then Congress brings him up on impeachment charges, claiming that he had withheld funds for his own personal
01:22:19.000 gain, that he had committed election interference
01:22:24.000 by asking Ukraine to publicly investigate Joe Biden over the firing of Shokin, which Biden had already said he'd
01:22:33.000 done.
01:22:34.000 They accused him and impeached him of election interference months and months and months
01:22:38.000 before the election.
01:22:40.000 So they said, OK, Trump, you're impeached because you asked for an investigation into Biden for something that he publicly said that he did and you wanted more details.
01:22:50.000 Now he's being prosecuted for all of this stuff.
01:22:56.000 And that's not being considered election interference.
01:22:58.000 I was going to say, if only he had ordered prosecutors to prosecute Joe Biden and have the trial date start right before Super Tuesday, then it would not be election interference.
01:23:09.000 So that's what they impeached him over.
01:23:11.000 And if you read the impeachment documents, which I did yesterday, it's very detailed about how Trump was wrong to launch an investigation into a political opponent during an election year.
01:23:23.000 Well, to be fair, I don't think you guys have actually read any of the laws that they're using to to go after Trump on for the, you know, when they impeached him.
01:23:32.000 It clearly states that in in the instance that the accused is Republican, the full force of the law shall be.
01:23:39.000 You know, levied against this individual.
01:23:41.000 However, if said, accused as Democrat, then just forget about it.
01:23:44.000 That's actually in the law.
01:23:46.000 It's okay when we do it at Progressive 3616 or whatever.
01:23:49.000 All of this and more at Tim Cashew, which is going to be launching later this year.
01:23:53.000 That's correct!
01:23:54.000 Which is founded in the Socratic method.
01:23:57.000 Yes, exactly.
01:23:58.000 I am a doctor.
01:23:59.000 Yes, and we declared it publicly tonight.
01:24:01.000 I never said the university, that was actually something I should say a long time ago.
01:24:04.000 I would be happy to accredit the university for you.
01:24:06.000 I'm willing this into existence.
01:24:07.000 I have a PhD from the university so I could accredit it.
01:24:10.000 I think we just made the board.
01:24:12.000 I would make the point to people.
01:24:13.000 Circular accreditation, right.
01:24:15.000 You get accredited from the university and then found it so that it, I like it.
01:24:19.000 Correct.
01:24:19.000 I like this.
01:24:20.000 To explain to people, I've been explaining to people credentialism for a long time.
01:24:24.000 So, you know, I'd be talking to these, like, I have friends, everyone's like, you have to go to college if you want to get a good job, and I'll go, please.
01:24:29.000 And then I'd be like, well, I have a master's.
01:24:31.000 They'd be like, you have a master's?
01:24:32.000 I'll be like, yeah, in nuclear engineering.
01:24:33.000 They'll be like, what, do you really?
01:24:34.000 And I'll be like, uh-huh, yeah, you know, from Milton U. And they'd be like, what?
01:24:37.000 And I'll be like, that's right.
01:24:38.000 Yeah, I made it up.
01:24:39.000 It's not an accredited school or anything, but I gave it to myself.
01:24:42.000 I used to want to make up college sweatshirts and be like, no, this is where I went to school.
01:24:46.000 I want to wear this.
01:24:49.000 Some body at some organization determines that you are worthy and gives you a title.
01:24:54.000 I can give myself whatever title I want.
01:24:58.000 Re-educated.
01:24:59.000 Re-educated by the Ontario College of Physicians because he made some incendiary social media posts.
01:25:06.000 The people who complained about Jordan Peterson and got him investigated and subject to re-education, they were not his clients, they were not his students, they were not his patients or whatever.
01:25:15.000 They were people who saw his posts on the internet.
01:25:18.000 And didn't like them.
01:25:19.000 And didn't like them.
01:25:20.000 Whoa, that's pretty serious.
01:25:22.000 Who precisely is supposed to re-educate him?
01:25:25.000 The Ontario College of Physicians.
01:25:26.000 In fact, there are people that they have said will be the ones doing the re-education, Jordan Peterson will be paying for it, and those specialists, those experts, those credentialed people, cost $225 an hour.
01:25:37.000 PragerU should give out PhDs.
01:25:40.000 Watch if it doesn't work.
01:25:41.000 Jordan Peterson has said that he's going to put it all on YouTube.
01:25:45.000 Oh, like live stream it?
01:25:46.000 Yeah.
01:25:47.000 It can help offset the cost that he has to cover, which I'm sure they're like... He'll make much more than $225 an hour doing that.
01:25:53.000 They're gonna make it a minimum of like 48 hours.
01:25:56.000 Like yeah, he had a fashion moment.
01:25:58.000 And the credentialed experts are the ones who get to decide how long the training will go.
01:26:02.000 So if they feel it's not working, they can extend it.
01:26:05.000 Exactly, that they are getting paid to do.
01:26:07.000 And it will be streamed on YouTube.
01:26:09.000 So they've given him, essentially they've given him a almost unlimited fine.
01:26:17.000 Yeah.
01:26:17.000 Or a fine with no upper limit.
01:26:19.000 That's right.
01:26:19.000 It's either that or they take his license.
01:26:21.000 And it goes until he admits, I agree with what you think.
01:26:24.000 You know what?
01:26:25.000 Because he believes in credentialism.
01:26:27.000 You should just go in second one.
01:26:27.000 I agree.
01:26:28.000 Yeah.
01:26:28.000 Like as soon as they say it, be like, you're right.
01:26:30.000 Absolutely.
01:26:30.000 Okay.
01:26:31.000 Great.
01:26:31.000 Great to see you.
01:26:32.000 We don't think you do agree.
01:26:33.000 He's like, no, no.
01:26:33.000 I totally agree.
01:26:34.000 He would say something else.
01:26:35.000 I agree.
01:26:36.000 I don't think he'd ever do that.
01:26:37.000 I don't think so either.
01:26:38.000 Jordan Peterson's gonna be like, screw off you dang Marxists!
01:26:42.000 But it would be funny if he's like, if you weren't just so bloody minded.
01:26:46.000 He's gonna argue with them.
01:26:47.000 Yeah, for sure.
01:26:48.000 He's gonna have a field day, basically.
01:26:50.000 He's gonna wear a weird suit.
01:26:51.000 What if he changes their mind?
01:26:54.000 Live.
01:26:55.000 What if he under-educates them?
01:27:00.000 Have you guys heard about the FBI agents who were tasked with monitoring right-wing message boards started becoming right-wing?
01:27:07.000 I totally believe it.
01:27:08.000 They're seeing all these posts and they're going like, wait a minute.
01:27:11.000 I got told this stuff was wrong and I wasn't supposed to talk about it, but when I read through it, they're making some good points over here.
01:27:17.000 My goal is to get my NSA mind, for there to be churn in the NSA because they keep having to assign new people to me because they go, oh no.
01:27:27.000 Oh, he's right.
01:27:28.000 Crap, he's right.
01:27:29.000 And then they have to quit or whatever.
01:27:30.000 Maybe they'll just, you know, smash this machine.
01:27:32.000 What happens is, is like, The NSA, they know that the assignment to Spike is like a three-month rotation.
01:27:39.000 And so they tell the agent, like, it's a three-month rotation, just so you know.
01:27:43.000 I'm like, what?
01:27:43.000 Three months?
01:27:44.000 Like, typically we do two years.
01:27:45.000 Like, just trust us.
01:27:46.000 And then after like two and a half months, the guy's sitting there and he's like shaking.
01:27:50.000 He's got a cigarette.
01:27:50.000 He's going back and forth.
01:27:51.000 He's right about everything, man.
01:27:53.000 You're right about everything!
01:27:53.000 And they're like, alright, time to get him out of there.
01:27:55.000 They all have to go to mandatory meetings with the psychologist afterwards.
01:27:58.000 He's like, no, no!
01:27:59.000 He's not a doctor!
01:28:00.000 You can't believe him!
01:28:01.000 They have to put him through the re-education program.
01:28:03.000 Yeah, they have to put him through.
01:28:05.000 These people are good that are going to be doing Jordan Peterson.
01:28:07.000 They're the ones that have to deprogram my NSA minders into, like, re-believing.
01:28:11.000 They have to re-blue pill them.
01:28:13.000 I always thought that was weird about, like, PhDs, like, you have to go defend your thesis, but what if I don't respect anyone who's on the panel?
01:28:19.000 What if I don't like any of their theses?
01:28:21.000 I'm questioning your authority.
01:28:22.000 Yeah, I don't understand why you have the authority.
01:28:24.000 I've always found it weird, the credentialism and the people insisting that they're a doctor and so forth, because I was proud to tell people I barely made it out of high school.
01:28:32.000 Like, I didn't go to college, and I had multiple successful businesses and, you know, a great life.
01:28:36.000 My wife's, like, super hot and everything, and I'm like, you know, like, why?
01:28:39.000 Why would I?
01:28:40.000 I like being able to say, like, I got this despite the fact that the schooling system tried to keep me down.
01:28:46.000 Hard work is hard.
01:28:47.000 That's why it's called hard work.
01:28:49.000 Right.
01:28:50.000 And often hard work, and it's possible, I should say this, hard work isn't always hard, sometimes it's tedious.
01:28:55.000 Yes.
01:28:55.000 Time consuming.
01:28:56.000 But I think it's a class thing, right?
01:28:59.000 Well, the issue is this.
01:29:01.000 If you can work hard, you can make a lot of money.
01:29:04.000 But if you want to party, take out loans and then get your degree and then say, look, I did a thing.
01:29:09.000 That's why they that it's I think college is the lazy route, to be completely honest.
01:29:14.000 So if you look at somebody who gets out of high school or doesn't go to high school and they start working, start a business, even if the job is Starbucks or McDonald's and they work their way to becoming a manager, what is it like the CEO of UPS started as like a in the sorting room or something like that?
01:29:29.000 There's a bunch of stories like that.
01:29:31.000 That's the perfect job to start in the mail room.
01:29:32.000 Start it as an intern.
01:29:34.000 That's the hard way.
01:29:35.000 You start working, you work hard, you get smart, and you try and figure out along the way and you become the best at it.
01:29:41.000 For a lot of people, they are tricked into going to college.
01:29:44.000 They're told this is the only way to do it.
01:29:45.000 But I also know for a fact that a lot of these people go to college knowing that it's vacation.
01:29:49.000 They're going to get a big loan.
01:29:50.000 They're going to go party every night.
01:29:52.000 They're going to barely do any work.
01:29:53.000 They're going to get a piece of paper that says, I deserve a job.
01:29:56.000 Then they're going to demand the government pay their loans back.
01:29:58.000 And that's what a lot of them are doing.
01:30:00.000 So why do they want these degrees and everything?
01:30:02.000 It's because they didn't actually earn any real authority, but they're the experts now, so they get to assert that.
01:30:07.000 So I'll tell you this.
01:30:09.000 Who, it's, you ever see that movie, um, with Rodney Dangerfield, what is it called, like Back to School or something?
01:30:14.000 Oh yeah, yeah.
01:30:14.000 That's I think it, right.
01:30:16.000 With Robert Downey Jr.
01:30:17.000 and yeah, yeah.
01:30:18.000 And there's like that scene where, I haven't seen this in decades, but there's that scene where he's in the classroom and the professor is explaining the basics of like marketing and like selling widgets.
01:30:26.000 He's like, what are you talking about?
01:30:27.000 That doesn't make any sense.
01:30:28.000 And then everyone turns to him and starts taking notes from him because he's this ultra-wealthy businessman.
01:30:32.000 He knows how to sell widgets, yeah.
01:30:33.000 Who would you rather get advice from?
01:30:36.000 A high school dropout who built a record label, or a university professor who's teaching people how to do music management.
01:30:44.000 And that's the problem with schools.
01:30:45.000 Except Tim Castu.
01:30:47.000 That's true, which is a respectable institution.
01:30:48.000 No, no, no, no, no.
01:30:48.000 What do you mean, except Tim Kast, you, is proudly minority-owned from an underprivileged upbringing, a mixed-race person from an underprivileged upbringing, a high school dropout who built it from the ground up and will credential you if you ask.
01:31:03.000 Yeah.
01:31:03.000 And the first PhD is a woman, so... That's so true!
01:31:07.000 A pre-PhD!
01:31:09.000 You're already credentialed from them, yeah.
01:31:11.000 Yeah.
01:31:12.000 I think part of it is a lot of the university system, especially when you get to like the Ivy Leagues and more elite schools, it functions the way that when you're in middle school and there's a brand that everyone wears, and so if you have the brand... What was that brand when you were in middle school?
01:31:23.000 I feel like it was Abercrombie & Fitch when I was growing up.
01:31:25.000 That was the thing that if you had the Hollister, Abercrombie stuff, then you were cool, right?
01:31:30.000 I did not.
01:31:31.000 I don't regret it now.
01:31:32.000 It wasn't like Aeropostale.
01:31:34.000 No, of course not.
01:31:35.000 Don't be a pauper, Libby.
01:31:36.000 No, just kidding.
01:31:37.000 But if I can look at you and say, but I went to Princeton.
01:31:41.000 I went to Harvard, right?
01:31:42.000 I get to say that I am elite in some way and therefore I deserve something that you guys don't have, right?
01:31:48.000 That's what I find that I'll get into, you know, arguments about, you know, books or whatever with someone and they'll be like, well, my mom told me this about the book and she went to Princeton.
01:31:57.000 I don't care.
01:31:57.000 That doesn't mean anything.
01:32:00.000 Because they aren't trading on their brains or their actual accomplishment or intellectual ability.
01:32:04.000 They're trading on the brand name of what they paid or realistically went to huge amounts of debt for.
01:32:09.000 And to shatter that illusion is very hard for them.
01:32:10.000 I mean, but shattering the illusion is, I think, a big part of what we're talking about.
01:32:15.000 Right.
01:32:15.000 Because I think that a lot of the people who are having trouble You know, dealing with a society where credentials are actually not really that valid, or who are looking at, you know, the whole situation with Trump and realizing, like, perhaps, like, that he is not actually guilty of all these things, or looking at Biden and saying, oh, he is guilty of all of these things, or seeing society crumble, or all of the looting, or the stores closing down, or all of this stuff.
01:32:38.000 It's like, it's very difficult to let go of what you thought our country was, and what you thought our culture was about.
01:32:45.000 So you look at it and you say, why are people looting the stores?
01:32:49.000 And that's really not the right question at this point.
01:32:52.000 Things have changed so drastically, and so many people just want to hang on to the idea, the expectation of what they had for our culture and our country, and it's very difficult to let that go.
01:33:03.000 I mean, you can grieve what that was, but we have to let it go to a certain extent.
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01:33:49.000 ByTheFireSide says, if Trump is in court Super Tuesday, his campaign should hold free Trump rallies in the battleground states and have as many social media pro-Trump figures as possible speak in his stead.
01:34:01.000 Entirely possible.
01:34:02.000 That's one thing to consider, too.
01:34:03.000 They want to shut him down on Super Tuesday, but he still has powerful, prominent media voices, personalities, surrogates, etc., who can go around rallying and campaigning on his behalf.
01:34:11.000 And the trial may actually hurt them in this regard, because it justifies a lot.
01:34:17.000 It exemplifies a lot of what Trump has been saying.
01:34:19.000 So if you get Trump Jr., if you get Dan Bongino out on the campaign trail, if they go out and they say, look what they are doing to this man, they are cheating, that could be more powerful than Trump himself.
01:34:30.000 Yeah, especially since then he could justify not being, you know, Super Tuesday, you want to be in 800 places at once.
01:34:36.000 Whereas he could send every member of his family, everyone who represents him, and say, you know, he would be here, he would be in this spot, except that they're keeping him there.
01:34:44.000 And it's like in 12 states.
01:34:45.000 It's 12 states!
01:34:45.000 He's being this one!
01:34:46.000 It's like looking at, like if you have a bunch of kids and you're like, you're my favorite slash you're all my favorite, you know what I mean?
01:34:51.000 They may have done him a favor with this.
01:34:53.000 I think the thing that I can't get over the fact that within, what, two hours the Trump campaign had those mugshot merch ready to go?
01:35:01.000 Oh, we had it too at Post Millennial.
01:35:04.000 We had t-shirts ready to go.
01:35:05.000 I bought two of them.
01:35:06.000 But that's what I mean.
01:35:07.000 Well, during the show, we made the revenge poster and put a t-shirt up.
01:35:10.000 Yeah and we sold it!
01:35:11.000 I saw that and you know what that morning I was like the mugshot we need to like talk about the mugshot and comparing it to the Obama Shepard Fairey and then you did it and I was like nice!
01:35:20.000 Yeah it was so funny and then but that's the thing this campaign has just embraced that this is happening right?
01:35:25.000 They're saying like it's so ludicrous we now fundraise off of it so I think actually- Biden was fundraising off it!
01:35:32.000 Yeah, everyone's gonna fundraise off it, but I think Trump is the most successful, and I really think being able to say, like, I would be here in whatever state, except I can't, so I sent to you my sons or whoever, it's powerful.
01:35:45.000 I think that this, in a way, breathed life into his campaign, because I remember this time last year, people were talking about Maybe this isn't Trump's time anymore.
01:35:53.000 Maybe it's DeSantis' turn.
01:35:54.000 Look at all the stuff he's done.
01:35:55.000 And I'm saying in Republican circles.
01:35:57.000 I'm a libertarian.
01:35:58.000 We were having a completely different conversation.
01:36:00.000 But in Republican circles, they're saying, look at the stuff he's done in Florida.
01:36:04.000 Trump just wants to keep relitigating 2020.
01:36:07.000 Maybe he's not the guy.
01:36:07.000 People just feel like he was really better.
01:36:09.000 Yeah, and some of the polls were showing that head-to-head DeSantis would do better against Biden.
01:36:13.000 I would have told them that's because DeSantis is largely an unknown compared to Trump, and they always do better that way.
01:36:18.000 But then with this, it's like, no, Trump's the candidate now.
01:36:21.000 Which is why, again, I don't think they're looking at the politics of it.
01:36:24.000 I think they want to put him in prison.
01:36:25.000 I do too.
01:36:25.000 But that's I felt like after his CNN town hall, where he was just like, the most ridiculous and also best version of himself where he's like, describing this case I brought against him.
01:36:36.000 He's like, I own the hotel across the street.
01:36:38.000 You think I would have seen in town hall?
01:36:39.000 Yes, exactly.
01:36:40.000 And, you know, I think To your point too, there was a moment where people really doubted it, and that's why CNN was like, it's fine, we'll have this town hall and we'll destroy him.
01:36:49.000 And he is proving time and time again that he is ready and willing to go into this very aggressive attack on him personally.
01:36:57.000 Right.
01:36:58.000 We got this from XHeadshotX, I have to wonder if the RNC and Ronald McDaniel is supporting the DNC's effort to fix the Republican primary.
01:37:07.000 I wouldn't be surprised.
01:37:08.000 Never Trumpers, they hate Trump.
01:37:10.000 That's why they're called Never Trumpers.
01:37:12.000 So, uh, I don't know.
01:37:14.000 How many, how many Republicans in Georgia are against Trump?
01:37:19.000 I mean, I'm unhappy with the RNC.
01:37:21.000 I voiced my frustrations about Larry Elder being kept from the debate stage, and I think that's indicative of the fact that they are controlling the narrative that they want on stage, and they don't actually want Trump there, despite Ron McDaniels being like, it would be wrong for him to miss it.
01:37:35.000 They only wanted the fact that he could bring in a large audience.
01:37:37.000 They know that he will not comply with whatever they want, hence the loyalty pledge, and they kept Larry Elder out, which means that there's a whole lot of conversation that would have been great.
01:37:46.000 The loyalty pledge is pretty standard.
01:37:47.000 I mean, they do that.
01:37:49.000 Yeah, but Trump was never going to sign a loyalty pledge.
01:37:50.000 So they're saying, you should be here, except we're offering the stipulation that we know you're not going to sign.
01:37:56.000 He proudly refused to do it in 2016.
01:37:58.000 I remember, it was funny because it was kind of when the thing happened with Vivek, when they asked, you know, would you pardon Trump?
01:38:05.000 I think that was the question.
01:38:06.000 And he immediately raises his hand.
01:38:06.000 Yeah.
01:38:07.000 All the way up.
01:38:09.000 And just looked around and was like, yeah, me too.
01:38:12.000 He didn't just look around, he was like, That look around was deadly.
01:38:16.000 That was worse than the Howard Dean thing when he yopped.
01:38:20.000 That was worse than when Dukakis got in the tank.
01:38:22.000 It was worse than when Gary Johnson asked what Aleppo was.
01:38:25.000 It completely eliminated that.
01:38:28.000 But it was a callback.
01:38:30.000 to kind of the opposite of that when in this would have been in 2015 during the first i think the first republican debate they said uh you know who here would not support is not willing to agree to support whoever the republican nominee is and donald trump put up his hand proudly and and no one else would do it and i think those are the moments where you have this big field of candidates and one sets themselves apart and again i don't think uh if they are considering the political ramifications they're idiots i don't think they are i think that they just want them in prison I was going to read more Super Chats.
01:39:03.000 Alright, Brendan Tiersma says, just got hired as an intern for Turning Point USA today.
01:39:09.000 Thank you for helping to get the job with your content and now I can help fight the culture war.
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01:39:16.000 With more information to come.
01:39:18.000 Move to Martinsburg, West Virginia.
01:39:20.000 We look forward to seeing you there.
01:39:22.000 We are... I'll keep things a little light for now until we can get things going.
01:39:27.000 But I look forward to anybody who is looking to get away from their cities, is trying to find a place to live.
01:39:33.000 Martinsburg, West Virginia is a good spot for people who love this country.
01:39:38.000 And there's a lot of good people there.
01:39:40.000 But it is... I'll put it this way.
01:39:43.000 In West Virginia, Martinsburg has some interesting elements in it, and I think there's an opportunity for us to do really, really great things in this town, and they could use help, they could use investment, and we are going to be investing in this area.
01:39:57.000 We're not just in Martinsburg, but we're going to be setting up some stuff going on there.
01:40:02.000 You can infer whatever you want with that, but I hope to see you down there.
01:40:07.000 And if you live in Martinsburg, every day you can drive by ATF headquarters and flip them off.
01:40:12.000 That's true.
01:40:12.000 Is that where they are?
01:40:13.000 No way.
01:40:14.000 I did a machine gun shoot in Martinsburg last year and afterwards they're like, oh by the way the ATF headquarters like right there.
01:40:21.000 The ATF headquarters, I think if I'm remembering this correctly, the one in Martinsburg has so many documents that the floor was collapsing.
01:40:27.000 I could be misremembering the story.
01:40:29.000 There was some crazy amount of documents that they were storing there, which of course I find sketchy for the ATF.
01:40:34.000 Well we got some projects in the works.
01:40:36.000 Is it because Biden has an office there?
01:40:38.000 Well, I feel safer when Joe Biden is around.
01:40:40.000 He just, you know, he lets kids rub his legs and he falls off bicycles.
01:40:44.000 He's got those hairy legs.
01:40:45.000 If any black men are around, he threatens to hang them with a chain.
01:40:49.000 It's nauseating.
01:40:50.000 All right, let's read more.
01:40:51.000 Teddy D says, Tim sent up the salmon signal and Spike showed up.
01:40:54.000 Yes.
01:40:55.000 Spike Cohen, 2024.
01:40:56.000 Yes, but the... Are you announcing tonight?
01:40:59.000 No, I'm not.
01:41:01.000 I've become a meme for my... I'll call it an addiction.
01:41:05.000 I'm a former drug addict and now I'm a salmon addict.
01:41:07.000 I've already eaten salmon twice today.
01:41:07.000 I can't not eat.
01:41:08.000 It's delicious.
01:41:09.000 It's twice today.
01:41:10.000 Raw or cooked?
01:41:11.000 Uh, actually, so I had a poke bowl this morning, and then I had some smoked salmon right before I came here.
01:41:17.000 So, hot smoked.
01:41:18.000 So, both raw and cooked.
01:41:19.000 When does your salmon-oriented cookbook come out?
01:41:23.000 Uh, now.
01:41:24.000 Right now?
01:41:25.000 I'm actually going to have a class at Tim Kass.
01:41:25.000 Yeah, right after.
01:41:27.000 Salmon preparation 101.
01:41:30.000 In all seriousness, are we going to ever figure out who the Libertarians intend to... Is there a primary?
01:41:38.000 Should people DM you on Twitter about it?
01:41:40.000 Oh, they already are.
01:41:42.000 I think it's May 24th or 25th.
01:41:45.000 The end of May is when we officially pick our nominee at the national convention.
01:41:49.000 Is it like a primary or no?
01:41:51.000 It's not.
01:41:51.000 Our system works a little differently.
01:41:53.000 Each state has a convention.
01:41:54.000 Each state affiliate has a convention where they pick their delegates.
01:41:57.000 Well, I've heard mutterings about people who won't do it, people who might do it, and I gotta say it's not promising.
01:42:00.000 It's going to be about like just under 600 people who ultimately will decide, or a majority
01:42:05.000 of right around 600 that will decide who the nominee is.
01:42:08.000 I've not decided yet if I'm running, I haven't ruled it out, but ultimately it's going to
01:42:12.000 come down to how I can best help the party and the liberty movement.
01:42:15.000 Well, I've heard mutterings about people who won't do it, people who might do it, and I
01:42:22.000 gotta say it's not promising.
01:42:24.000 We were really excited for Dave Smith.
01:42:26.000 Dave just announced he wasn't running.
01:42:27.000 Right.
01:42:28.000 And now everyone's kind of like, well, well, come on.
01:42:30.000 Like, he's perfect.
01:42:32.000 He's great.
01:42:33.000 Now it's, who knows?
01:42:34.000 Maybe he's far away.
01:42:35.000 Maybe you guys will have someone jump to the front.
01:42:37.000 You never know.
01:42:38.000 I mean, it's it is very early on.
01:42:40.000 You have to do it.
01:42:40.000 Yeah.
01:42:43.000 How much salmon you'd get if you were in the White House.
01:42:45.000 So from when, even when I was running for VP, there were, you know, this sort of like slow trickle of people are like, you know, you should run in 24, you should run in 24 on the top of the ticket.
01:42:53.000 And that slow trickle has kind of grown steadily over time.
01:42:56.000 And then when Dave announced he wasn't running, it just...
01:42:58.000 Now they're like, help us!
01:42:59.000 Now it's like a fire hose on me.
01:43:01.000 So we'll see.
01:43:01.000 I haven't ruled it out, but it's nothing I've particularly had a goal to do.
01:43:07.000 It looks like a lot of people will take it on almost like an ego stroke, and that ends up being a poison chalice when they do it.
01:43:14.000 If I do it, it's because I think it's the best way I can serve the movement.
01:43:17.000 Well, there is a thing.
01:43:18.000 You remember George Washington didn't necessarily want to be president, but he was pushed into power because the people demanded that he lead.
01:43:24.000 So if the people demand that you lead, Then that's the reason.
01:43:31.000 It's not to seek your own power.
01:43:32.000 I'm sure you've heard about it.
01:43:33.000 I've heard all these things.
01:43:34.000 Or you have a couple months to find someone else and say, no, that guy.
01:43:37.000 You know, I could do that.
01:43:39.000 That's the thing to do if you don't want to do it.
01:43:41.000 Driving around like, please, come on.
01:43:43.000 All right.
01:43:44.000 The Appalachian podcast says, Spike, say Appalachia.
01:43:47.000 Appalachia.
01:43:48.000 P.S.
01:43:48.000 Tim, love what you guys are doing for the Appalachian region.
01:43:50.000 Keep it up.
01:43:51.000 Yeah, I love it out here.
01:43:52.000 It's the best weather.
01:43:55.000 We didn't have winter this past year, though, so it was kind of a letdown.
01:43:58.000 Because we got a big field we wanted to snowboard in, because it's a very light hill, and then no snow.
01:44:04.000 Not even a little bit.
01:44:05.000 I was like, I was going to snowboard.
01:44:07.000 That's a bummer.
01:44:08.000 But whatever.
01:44:08.000 We have grapes everywhere now.
01:44:09.000 Those are some people you should consider having on.
01:44:12.000 Simon and Billy of Appalachian Podcast.
01:44:13.000 Some of the coolest people I've ever met.
01:44:15.000 I was on their show.
01:44:16.000 We went to Simon's place, shot off machine guns.
01:44:19.000 Those would be good people to have on.
01:44:20.000 Right on.
01:44:20.000 Sounds fun.
01:44:21.000 Absolutely.
01:44:22.000 And with me telling everybody to come to Martinsburg, West Virginia.
01:44:24.000 It's also Jefferson and Berkeley County.
01:44:27.000 You know good place.
01:44:28.000 I love Morgan County too.
01:44:29.000 I mean the whole Eastern Panhandle is a really interesting place.
01:44:31.000 Where's Morgan?
01:44:31.000 It's further west?
01:44:32.000 Morgan is like if there are three counties that make up the Eastern Panhandle, it's the farthest west.
01:44:37.000 Is that where Berkeley Springs is?
01:44:38.000 It's where Berkeley Springs is.
01:44:39.000 Yeah, everyone loves that place.
01:44:40.000 Yeah, it's super cool.
01:44:41.000 I mean it's the oldest like spa town in the country or something like that.
01:44:43.000 It's so cute.
01:44:44.000 It's super cute.
01:44:45.000 Yeah.
01:44:46.000 I would also say if you guys are interested in this music that Oliver Anthony put out, there's a song called Appalachia by a guy named Josiah in the Bonnevilles and it gives you all the vibes about wanting to move to Appalachia right away.
01:44:55.000 And look up the history of the song, was it Country Roads?
01:44:59.000 Not about West Virginia.
01:45:00.000 No, the word just comes up once.
01:45:02.000 So, uh, I read about it, and it was inspired by Montgomery County, Maryland, but that doesn't roll off the tongue very well, so they went and looked up in an encyclopedia, West Virginia stuff, and then wrote a song about West Virginia instead.
01:45:14.000 Am I wrong in thinking that Montgomery is one of the three counties in Western Maryland that was like, please, let us join West Virginia?
01:45:20.000 That would be so cool.
01:45:20.000 And they were like, yeah, we would love to have you, you have to ask Baltimore, and now we've heard nothing about it.
01:45:25.000 Also, the county that Winchester, Virginia is in, which just sits right below the Panhandle, so sort of if you drive south from Martinsburg, in their county charter, a West Virginia state senator told me this, it has a clause where at any point they are allowed to secede into West Virginia because of the way it was divided.
01:45:41.000 Winchester?
01:45:42.000 It's the county that Winchester is in.
01:45:44.000 That's in Virginia?
01:45:45.000 Yeah.
01:45:45.000 They can unilaterally do that without any... That's what a West Virginia state senator told me, that when they were dividing up the state, they were like, okay, we're not going right now, but we may want to eventually.
01:45:56.000 Wow.
01:45:57.000 Interesting.
01:45:58.000 Because West Virginia came in as a slave state, but then it was only a slave state for like 16 months or something like that, right?
01:46:03.000 West Virginia?
01:46:04.000 Didn't it?
01:46:04.000 I think it was the opposite.
01:46:06.000 I think West Virginia sustained the union in Virginia.
01:46:08.000 Wasn't there slavery in West Virginia?
01:46:10.000 I think they stayed with the Union, but they were still a slave state.
01:46:13.000 Maryland was a slave state.
01:46:14.000 Same thing with Delaware.
01:46:15.000 So that's what it was.
01:46:15.000 So West Virginia was a slave state for like a little bit.
01:46:17.000 Being a Union didn't mean anything.
01:46:19.000 Yeah, the Emancipation Proclamation was explicitly written for the states that were segregated.
01:46:23.000 So even after the Civil War ended, you know, we talk about how Juneteenth happened, you know, months after or a year after.
01:46:28.000 In Texas, two years.
01:46:29.000 Yeah.
01:46:30.000 In Delaware, it didn't end until like 1870 or 1871.
01:46:32.000 It meant multiple, like what, six years after the war ended.
01:46:35.000 Wow.
01:46:36.000 But we don't celebrate that anniversary.
01:46:37.000 All right.
01:46:38.000 Well, let's read some more.
01:46:40.000 Lord Joseph Cole says, Tim took your advice, moved out of the city.
01:46:43.000 We are in a bind.
01:46:44.000 Please help us if you can.
01:46:45.000 Give, send, go the Coles family to get our power back on.
01:46:48.000 Oh, yikes, man.
01:46:49.000 Well, I hope everything works out for you guys.
01:46:50.000 No one ever said escaping and being and living is...
01:46:55.000 Being on your own is going to be easy.
01:46:57.000 And that's what I was thinking about with that video where the woman's like, I can't afford to live this way.
01:47:00.000 Part of me was like, man, well, maybe you should just vote for politicians who are actually going to help make your life better.
01:47:05.000 Pay attention to what's going on in the world.
01:47:06.000 I don't, you know, I'm sad to hear this woman upset in this way.
01:47:10.000 But part of me also said, like, what would this woman be doing if it was 200 years ago?
01:47:14.000 Ain't nobody 200 years ago was driving in their car, being like, I can't afford to live.
01:47:19.000 It's like, dude, you couldn't make it 10 miles without potentially dying.
01:47:23.000 I'm exaggerating a bit.
01:47:23.000 Well, 200 years ago, if she was a single mom now, if 200 years ago she was married and then got divorced and became a single, she wouldn't have been divorced.
01:47:32.000 There's no divorce.
01:47:32.000 Right.
01:47:33.000 So she still would be married or she would have been totally outcast for having children out of wedlock 200 years ago.
01:47:39.000 None of that would happen, and let's be honest, the risks to your life back then were substantial.
01:47:43.000 She may have died in childbirth or something like that.
01:47:45.000 And also, if the reason that she's a single mother is because the father abandoned her and the kids, no community 200 years ago would have tolerated that.
01:47:53.000 Puts up with a guy like that.
01:47:54.000 That guy would have been an outcast.
01:47:56.000 He'd have to run west and go be a bandito or something, and then the community would help that woman.
01:48:01.000 The community would rally around that woman, exactly.
01:48:04.000 But we're in a nasty place where you have all these luxuries, but no family.
01:48:09.000 It is very bizarre.
01:48:10.000 I keep thinking of that Jane's Addiction song, Three Days, when he says, we choose no kin but adopted strangers.
01:48:18.000 Oh, interesting.
01:48:19.000 What's the line?
01:48:20.000 Yeah.
01:48:22.000 All right.
01:48:22.000 Let's grab some more Super Chats.
01:48:26.000 Where are we at?
01:48:28.000 Steve Hagen says, it looks like the step on Snek and find out means, find out not much happens, please keep stepping on Snek.
01:48:36.000 Well, I guess unfortunately so.
01:48:40.000 The don't tread on me flag's been on for a really really long time and he's been trampled.
01:48:44.000 That poor little snake is long dead.
01:48:47.000 I just wonder how many lockdowns were enforced and officers would show up with the thin blue line variant of the don't tread on me flag as they actively tread on people who were, you know, committing crimes like going to church and meeting their loved ones.
01:48:59.000 Or in Quebec, like police would show up if there were more than five people in your house and they would drag people out.
01:49:05.000 It was terrifying.
01:49:06.000 In Kentucky they arrested a pastor and his congregation for having church in the parking lot in their own cars Like, they were even doing the whole, we don't know how serious this is, don't, you know, touch each other, don't get near each other.
01:49:18.000 But we get to worship God together because we have the First Amendment.
01:49:21.000 We're gonna worship God in proximity to one another, we're gonna stay outside, we're gonna be in our own cars, I think their windows were even up and they were still arrested.
01:49:28.000 Do you remember the congregation that held church in Walmart in Pittsburgh?
01:49:31.000 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:49:33.000 No, but that's beautiful.
01:49:34.000 Wow, that's... Let's grab another Super Chat here.
01:49:39.000 What is this?
01:49:40.000 The Emperor Champion says we should be a little bit more Warhammer 40k and a whole lot less My Little Pony.
01:49:46.000 Come on, grow a pair and at least impeach Joe Biden.
01:49:49.000 Yes.
01:49:49.000 That would be so nice.
01:49:50.000 Warhammer, not My Little Pony.
01:49:51.000 Got it.
01:49:52.000 Aren't bronies still a thing?
01:49:53.000 Where like, weird adult men liked My Little Pony?
01:49:57.000 Probably.
01:49:57.000 Do you guys remember that for a second?
01:49:59.000 It was horrifying.
01:49:59.000 Maybe they're now just pups in the Pride Parade.
01:50:02.000 I was gonna say, I think a lot of bronies may have, like, moved on to being furries or something.
01:50:07.000 Gross.
01:50:08.000 I bet they have leg hair.
01:50:09.000 JustPeachy says, we need to educate folks on how to write in Trump's name if he's taken off the ballot.
01:50:14.000 Some folks don't know they can.
01:50:16.000 If you take his name off the ballot, I don't know if, uh... In South Carolina, you can't write in for president.
01:50:22.000 Really?
01:50:22.000 No.
01:50:23.000 Why?
01:50:24.000 Uh, I don't know.
01:50:25.000 It's the, it's whatever our rules are.
01:50:26.000 I went there, uh, in 2016.
01:50:29.000 I showed up with some crayons and they told me that, uh, not only could I not use the crayons, uh, and, uh, not only could I not use a pen, it was, uh, a, uh, like a, um... Digital?
01:50:39.000 Yeah, a digital thing.
01:50:40.000 I was going to do like a protest and they're like, well, not only can you not do that, it's digital, but you can't write in a name anyway.
01:50:45.000 You have to pick from the names.
01:50:46.000 In New York you can write in and it's still a paper ballot.
01:50:49.000 Yeah, they didn't give that option on the day of.
01:50:52.000 That was 2016 though.
01:50:53.000 That's rude.
01:50:54.000 I thought so.
01:50:55.000 Just Revenant says the police and government will simply make up reasons to take your rights and put you in prison.
01:51:00.000 It happened to me, and I'm Joe Schmoe.
01:51:02.000 That's right, disorderly conduct, for instance.
01:51:04.000 What does that even mean?
01:51:05.000 You can be walking down the street, whistling a tune, and they'll say, hey, you're disturbing the peace, and you're under arrest.
01:51:13.000 In South Carolina, a friend of mine named Johnny McCoy, who's an attorney, he actually got, after he was arrested for it, there was a law on the books, I forget what it was called, but basically it was so vaguely defined that it got struck down because when he asked why his friend was being arrested for...
01:51:31.000 Uh, he was asking what his firm was being arrested for and they arrested him for that.
01:51:34.000 Oh wow, what?
01:51:35.000 Yeah, and it was something like, like interfering with police, uh, duties or something like that.
01:51:39.000 And he literally was saying, hey, what, what are you doing?
01:51:41.000 I'm an attorney, what are you, what's he being arrested for?
01:51:43.000 And they arrested him for that.
01:51:44.000 Of course, they'll just make up a reason.
01:51:45.000 Yep.
01:51:46.000 You protest disorderly conduct.
01:51:48.000 Yeah.
01:51:48.000 You say it's the first amendment, nah, you were being disorderly.
01:51:50.000 It's hard not to think of Jenna Ellis, who's, like, arrested for being Trump's lawyer.
01:51:52.000 Yeah.
01:51:53.000 That's scary.
01:51:54.000 This guy being a lawyer, doing something completely normal, and they're like, no.
01:51:58.000 No.
01:51:59.000 No lawyers.
01:51:59.000 Straight to jail.
01:52:00.000 So they say that it's a criminal conspiracy and they're using the RICO Act.
01:52:03.000 Are they basically alleging that the campaign was a criminal organization?
01:52:08.000 That's right.
01:52:09.000 But Joe Biden's is fine.
01:52:10.000 And not a single Republican prosecutor, D.A., A.D.A., A.G.
01:52:16.000 or whatever, anywhere has done anything to go after Democrats in any comparable way.
01:52:21.000 I find that to be absolutely horrifying.
01:52:23.000 Well, you have Ken Paxton and then they're taking him out in Texas.
01:52:27.000 Well, how about how about he start filing charges?
01:52:31.000 Here's one thing I'd say.
01:52:31.000 He ought to.
01:52:33.000 Right now, if they make any... I think Texas should file a lawsuit against Georgia right now.
01:52:40.000 To the Supreme Court, citing original jurisdiction, saying that the federal elections of 2024 are held between all states and Georgia is removing a candidate from an election that Texas has to participate in.
01:52:53.000 That's a very good point.
01:52:54.000 Texas should sue and say they cannot interfere in an election because they are negating our votes.
01:53:01.000 Let's go.
01:53:01.000 Let's roll.
01:53:02.000 Come on.
01:53:02.000 Where are we at?
01:53:03.000 Anybody?
01:53:05.000 They could also... a bunch of novel concepts.
01:53:07.000 How about this?
01:53:08.000 Well, didn't we have that in the last election?
01:53:10.000 Weren't there some states suing other states and then it got thrown out?
01:53:12.000 Yes.
01:53:13.000 Texas sued, I think, Pennsylvania.
01:53:14.000 Pennsylvania.
01:53:15.000 Yeah.
01:53:15.000 And it was a whole 48 states versus 48 states.
01:53:19.000 That's right.
01:53:19.000 And then the Supreme Court was like, nah, we're not going to hear it.
01:53:21.000 We don't care.
01:53:22.000 The argument was that there were state legislatures telling Mike Pence, telling Trump, we did not approve these changes to the election.
01:53:31.000 The Constitution says the state legislature has final say.
01:53:34.000 So we want the chance to adjudicate this and or to legislate this.
01:53:38.000 And Mike Pence was like, nah, meh.
01:53:42.000 And that was it.
01:53:43.000 And so a lot of lawsuits, this was before that, a lawsuit went out saying, like, Texas said, we participate in this election, and what Pennsylvania has done is not constitutional, so it is voiding our participation, and we demand this be heard, and the Supreme Court said, nah, not interested.
01:54:01.000 Yeah.
01:54:02.000 And then you ended up with states asking Mike Pence to intervene because of the unilateral changes that were made in violation of the Constitution.
01:54:07.000 And he was like, are you crazy?
01:54:10.000 They showed me a picture of JFK.
01:54:11.000 And then he ran away screaming and crying like a little baby.
01:54:13.000 Well, because JFK, they had the alternate electors in Hawaii with Nixon.
01:54:18.000 And Nixon rejected the certified electors.
01:54:21.000 That's right.
01:54:21.000 How about that?
01:54:23.000 And that's what the forgery is.
01:54:24.000 When they're prosecuting for forgery in Georgia, the forgery is signing off on alternate slates of electors.
01:54:31.000 Just like the Democrats did in 1960.
01:54:32.000 Yes, just like them.
01:54:33.000 How about that?
01:54:35.000 And then in 1961, when they were counting the votes, Richard Nixon says, we've got the certified Republican votes, but everyone agree, we'll just do the Democrats instead?
01:54:42.000 Alright, Democrats instead.
01:54:44.000 And that was it.
01:54:46.000 But it's not even that, it was that they were asking Mike Pence to return the votes and not reject them out.
01:54:51.000 Like, it wasn't that they were being rejected, it was that they would go back to the states and the states would figure it out, but it would still trigger the House delegations electing the president.
01:54:58.000 Right.
01:54:58.000 And Mike Pence is, he's like a listless vessel.
01:55:06.000 He's kind of like, he's an NPC.
01:55:09.000 I was going to say, he's like a very strong NPC.
01:55:13.000 He has this new line that he'll say that, you know, I'm very proud of the work I did with President Trump.
01:55:19.000 It did not end well.
01:55:20.000 And it's like it's in his book.
01:55:21.000 He'll say it in interviews.
01:55:23.000 He's said it probably like 300 times now.
01:55:25.000 And he'll say it every time thinking it's going to land just as hard as the first time he did.
01:55:28.000 It's like he doesn't have original thoughts.
01:55:30.000 He's such a scripted political figure that, like, he's just reciting things.
01:55:35.000 He's not thinking.
01:55:35.000 And he's fearful, right?
01:55:37.000 Like, he wants to stay in the good graces of whatever establishment he thinks will protect him if anything happens.
01:55:42.000 He's not willing to take any risks.
01:55:43.000 Like, when Vivek throws his hand in the air, it's like, yeah, I'd pardon Trump.
01:55:47.000 There's a boldness there that I just think Mike Pence doesn't have.
01:55:50.000 Let's read some more.
01:55:51.000 Chris S. says, nuke the whales.
01:55:54.000 All right, Nelson.
01:55:55.000 Appreciate it.
01:55:56.000 Simpsons reference.
01:55:58.000 All right.
01:55:59.000 Summer Andre says, don't forget the two Republican council members killed in New Jersey.
01:56:03.000 Oh, man.
01:56:03.000 That's right.
01:56:04.000 Yeah.
01:56:05.000 Wow.
01:56:06.000 And then it's funny when, you know, I just when I talk to people about a fear of civil war or the state of civil strife, I hear the exact same thing.
01:56:16.000 There's not enough people to engage in this.
01:56:18.000 And it's just like every time I'm like, how many people do you think?
01:56:22.000 Like, wanted civil war.
01:56:23.000 How many people do you think were actually fighting in the American Revolution?
01:56:28.000 Very, very few, yeah.
01:56:29.000 It's between three and ten percent.
01:56:30.000 Really?
01:56:31.000 Fighting in the revolution?
01:56:33.000 Yeah.
01:56:33.000 Interesting.
01:56:35.000 And what, like, the general sentiment from historians is that the public was split on the revolution.
01:56:40.000 Yeah.
01:56:40.000 Whether it was a good idea or not.
01:56:42.000 Yeah, there's that famous quote where, I'm not sure who said it, they said, John Adams or something, that it was 30% want it, 30% don't, and 30% don't care.
01:56:49.000 That's not true.
01:56:50.000 It was more so that, um, I read a historical assessment that said something like, it was like 35% support, something like 23% opposed, and the rest were like, don't know, don't care.
01:57:02.000 So they're like, it wasn't the majority, but the plurality were just like, we have no idea what's going on.
01:57:06.000 We don't, we don't want to know.
01:57:07.000 And imagine having the government so little involved in your life that you don't care who's in charge of it.
01:57:13.000 Yeah.
01:57:13.000 Like how great is that?
01:57:15.000 How awesome is that, that forget you don't care who gets elected, you don't even care like who's in charge of the government, like what the government even is, because it's so not involved in your day-to-day life you don't even care about that.
01:57:27.000 Here's a crazy one.
01:57:28.000 Undermine says a single fuel pellet, smaller than an inch, contains more energy than a ton of coal or 150 gallons of oil.
01:57:35.000 I'm assuming you're talking about fusion.
01:57:38.000 It's going to be bonkers.
01:57:40.000 If they can really get fusion going, and imagine if they can even miniaturize it and make smaller reactors, plus we've got solid-state batteries.
01:57:49.000 Wow.
01:57:50.000 It's going to be nuts.
01:57:52.000 Yeah, I'm curious how they do propulsion without chemical energy.
01:57:56.000 I'm interested to see the... Oh, that's interesting.
01:57:59.000 Well, so escaping orbit...
01:58:03.000 Achieving orbit.
01:58:04.000 There's a bunch of different ways that's been proposed.
01:58:06.000 There's one we use.
01:58:07.000 We use chemical fuels, liquid, solid propulsion for a rocket.
01:58:11.000 One of the proposed ways is a magnetic slingshot rail gun.
01:58:16.000 It's a big machine, basically, that takes the cargo load and spins it at a high rate of speed until it's spinning as fast as possible, and then it flings it up a tube and just launches it straight into space.
01:58:29.000 That's wild!
01:58:30.000 Yep, and once you have propulsion from hydrogen fusion, once you have that, now not only can you have much further and faster space travel, but you can have the kind of stuff you see in the sci-fi movies where it's like gravity's being simulated because it will continue to accelerate at, what, 9.8 meters per second or whatever, so that it simulates gravity by going in that direction.
01:58:55.000 And then turning around and doing the opposite to slow down.
01:58:58.000 And so not only will you be able to get to Mars in a matter of hours instead of weeks, now you won't even have to deal with the effects on your bones and muscles of not having gravity during that time.
01:59:08.000 We're like that close to this kind of stuff.
01:59:10.000 That's so cool!
01:59:12.000 That's the funny thing that people, you know, in sci-fi movies they'll show the ship and then there'll be a big ring spinning.
01:59:18.000 And they'll be like, that's how we simulate gravity.
01:59:21.000 No!
01:59:22.000 The ship is speeding up until it reaches halfway point and then turns around.
01:59:25.000 Yep.
01:59:26.000 So, I love it, because flat earthers think that's what Earth is doing.
01:59:29.000 They think Earth is permanently accelerating forward, and so that pins you to the ground, that's what gravity is.
01:59:35.000 Weird.
01:59:35.000 Yep.
01:59:36.000 And they also think there's a dome over our flat planet, and there's an ice wall, and a whole bunch of other crazy things.
01:59:41.000 The firmament, yeah.
01:59:41.000 It's the firmament.
01:59:43.000 This is not a pro-flat Earth show, I was told.
01:59:46.000 I was on a plane, and this guy, like, suddenly engaged in conversation, turned out he was a full-on flat earther.
01:59:52.000 And I was like, I don't, we're on the plane.
01:59:54.000 I pretended to be a flat-earther just for meme purposes from like 2015 to 2018 until my wife came into a room one time and I was literally making a flat-earth meme in a Facebook flat-earth group and she said, please stop.
02:00:07.000 She's like, our loved ones are worried.
02:00:10.000 I keep assuring them this is just a big joke.
02:00:13.000 They're saying, how could you do this for three years?
02:00:14.000 I said, okay, fine, I'll drop the flat-earths.
02:00:16.000 Three years is commitment.
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