Joe Biggs gets 17 years in prison for burning down a police station. Donald Trump is facing criminal charges for his role in the birther movement and his lawyers are being charged as well. Plus, Ron DeSantis shuts down another large super PAC, and we talk about what that means for his campaign.
00:00:16.000But the big news now is that Proud Boys are being sentenced and Joe Biggs just got sentenced to 17 years already on top of the two and a half years he's already been in prison.
00:00:28.000And the reason this is so shocking, there's a couple reasons.
00:00:31.000Far-left extremists who burn down police stations get less time.
00:00:34.000They get direct support from Democrats.
00:00:36.000They win millions of dollars in lawsuits.
00:00:38.000But if you are a right-winger like Joe Biggs, and you tear down a fence, they got you.
00:00:44.000Now there's tons of people posting photos from the occupations, the autonomous zones, far-left extremists firebombing federal buildings, and, uh, where are the criminal charges for any of these people?
00:00:54.000And the ones that have got caught, like the guy in Minneapolis burning down the police station?
00:01:00.000Here's the other component of the story.
00:01:01.000The judge actually told him, if you've got a problem with an election, then you can speak out, make phone calls, file lawsuits, contact election officials, but you can't get violent.
00:01:14.000Donald Trump is being criminally charged.
00:01:16.000His lawyers are being criminally charged.
00:01:18.000Members of the Trump administration have been criminally charged for literally speaking out, filing lawsuits, and contacting election officials.
00:01:27.000In fact, they've actually criminally charged the election officials over this!
00:01:32.000So the system may in fact be quite a bit broken.
00:01:36.000We'll talk about that plus a bunch of other political stories.
00:01:40.000We've got a Ron DeSantis super PAC shutting down another large super PAC ceasing door knocking operations.
00:01:47.000And this has many people wondering what's to come for the DeSantis campaign.
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00:05:33.000Former Proud Boys leader Joe Biggs sobs during sentencing as he's given 17 years in prison over January 6th after begging court not to separate him from his daughter and cancer-stricken mom.
00:05:45.000Biggs, Ethan Nordean, Zachary Rail, and Enrique Tarrio were all found guilty of the charges after they broke into the Capitol following the 2020 election.
00:05:56.000So, uh, yeah, his charges, I don't believe anything to do with him.
00:06:00.000He was arrested beforehand and barred from the city.
00:06:03.000Tarrio was not there, so, uh, you gotta, you gotta correct that one, Daily Mail.
00:06:07.000The judge ruled Biggs was qualified for a terrorism sentencing enhancement.
00:06:11.000Biggs' sentence is one of the harshest handed out in Capitol Riot cases, only behind the 18-year sentence for Oath Keeper's founder, Stuart Rhodes.
00:07:23.000If you speak out on Twitter, they'll claim it's part of a criminal conspiracy.
00:07:26.000If you make a phone call, part of a criminal conspiracy.
00:07:29.000Write or meet with election officials.
00:07:31.000Not only are they charging Donald Trump, his staff, and legal team for doing these things, they've even criminally charged the election officials that they met with So this is insanity.
00:08:40.000You know, this is the kind of thing that gives me a sinking feeling because what I did following the story is I went to look at a few forums to see what the sentiment was among Trump supporters and fans of Joe Biggs.
00:08:51.000And, uh... Yo, it's getting scary out there.
00:08:54.000Because the response from these people is terrifyingly, as I've predicted, the view that the government is illegitimate, law enforcement doesn't exist, and the perception among those who support Donald Trump is increasingly becoming, and for many already is, that these law enforcement officers are no different than a guy in a clown costume.
00:09:14.000That if a person walks up to you wearing a set of clothes, it doesn't mean anything.
00:09:17.000They're now saying that this is Soviet-style communist revolution.
00:09:21.000This is what was happening in the Spanish Civil War.
00:09:23.000And if this escalates, and likely will, because the far left will not stop.
00:09:28.000I don't know if they're a zombie horde setting fire to everything around them, just screeching the top of their lungs, or it's intentional.
00:09:35.000But you want to know who's at fault for the continued strife in this country?
00:09:44.000That's going to freak people out and not the way they think.
00:09:47.000Now here's, here's what I want to add before we just jump into the full conversation.
00:09:49.000The reason why they gave him 17 years, it has nothing to do with who Joe Biggs is or what he did.
00:09:54.000It's because of the mob phenomenon and they want everyone to know that they will throw the book at you and the hammer if you engage in any kind of mob mentality phenomenon.
00:10:05.000That is to say, often what we see in these riots with the far left, You have a mob of people walking around, clueless.
00:10:12.000One guy will walk up to a door at a store and jiggle the handle and then run away.
00:10:18.000Another guy will run up within a split second as he's running away and grab the handle and pull the door open.
00:10:23.000Someone else will see the door being opened and they'll peek their head in.
00:10:45.000He's there, people start taking action, and he goes along with it.
00:10:49.000So they're basically setting an example.
00:10:51.000We don't care who you are, we don't care what you've done.
00:10:53.000If you are in the mob, you're going down.
00:10:55.000And that's why the people who did not get violent and had no idea what was happening on the other side of the building are being criminally charged.
00:11:01.000The courts have literally told them, because you were part of a mob, you are going to prison.
00:11:06.000With Joe Biggs, one of those tweets, it was the first tweet you pulled up, said that he's getting, oh Matt Walsh, 17 years for tearing down a fence.
00:11:13.000But Kellen, you mentioned before the show, he was also screaming a barricade.
00:11:16.000He was also yelling at people to go in and to do stuff.
00:11:39.000I mean, there's also a video of Zachary Real, who was also sentenced today, he's getting 15 years, and he was also convicted of seditious conspiracy during this three-month trial, of him saying, don't go into the Capitol, don't go in there.
00:11:50.000And they're like, irrelevant to us, you have to go in because later you threw something at a police officer.
00:11:55.000I mean, there are things where I can agree, Don't throw stuff at cops.
00:11:59.000Don't throw stuff at cops, it's out of hand.
00:12:01.000On the other hand, both of these men have young children and you're locking them up
00:12:34.000Extremely brutal, what they're doing, and it's going to cause massive antis- It's going to cause sentiment that people are going to start to hate the victim now.
00:12:43.000Even the Krasensteins are like, we think this is a little bit harsh.
00:12:45.000Yeah, I'm like, wow, Kelly is the second judge that has said something to the effect of like, because of you, we no longer have stable elections.
00:12:56.000I hope everybody make like you understand that.
00:12:59.000You know, to throw a point to Ian, who often talks about pardoning your enemies.
00:13:03.000Now, I don't completely agree with pardoning the worst war criminals of our generation, but there is something to be said of the Chinese finger trap problem in that the harder you pull, the worse you make it.
00:13:14.000And this is the judge being the judge may as well have looked into the camera for that
00:13:19.000for NBC News and CNN and said that his goal is to destroy this country because the sentiment
00:13:25.000among those support Trump is that they are coming for you.
00:13:43.000I was thinking, the sentencing disparity that Matt Walsh brought up, could that be the difference between prosecution with a federal judge versus the really relaxed prosecution that's happening for different states and different cities?
00:13:59.000Perhaps, but to the moral question, it doesn't really matter all that much.
00:14:04.000Right, obviously we know that the feds can be more harsh.
00:14:06.000They tend to win all of their cases, the ones they choose.
00:14:10.000But it's just when you look at these on the surface of what they are, obviously we can say, bro, if you're going to get into a fight with feds, you're going to lose hands down.
00:14:18.000But 17 years for knocking down a barrier?
00:14:22.000It was one of those like little metal barriers.
00:14:28.000But you'd think someone would get like six, seven months in jail for something like that.
00:14:31.000And I feel like I have to point out that the Justice Department asked for 33 years in prison, and they asked for 27 for Zachary Rios.
00:14:39.000I mean, this is basically sort of half of what they wanted, and it's still, in my opinion, way too much for what happened.
00:14:46.000Right, and the one thing I want to bring up is the, you remember the case where the New York City lawyers, during the 2020 protests, they were caught with the Molotov cocktails.
00:14:59.000They got pretty good sentencing from it, so they weren't given lenient sentencing.
00:15:03.000Not saying that this isn't harsh, but I think it's been...
00:15:07.000I think the Feds are making an example quite clearly, and it's unjustified.
00:15:13.000And like you said, it's radicalizing people as well.
00:15:16.000So they're making an example while at the same time radicalizing people, which could possibly create the same circumstance that we ended up before.
00:15:26.000And I don't think they care much about that.
00:15:31.000But I think for us, who are just analyzing things, that seems like a plausible thing that could happen.
00:15:37.000And God forbid one of these indictments go through with Trump.
00:15:42.000To be honest, I'm not a lawyer, but just looking at the different indictments, they don't make much sense to me.
00:15:48.000I think that Biggs' lawyer should file an appeal on the grounds that the judge advocated for criminal activity.
00:15:55.000That the judge attempted to incite the defendant and his associates and those listening to commit crimes.
00:16:04.000And incitement to commit a crime is a crime in and of itself, so I believe this judge should be impeached, he should be removed, and criminally charged for the crime of advocating and inciting others to engage in election interference and seditious conspiracy.
00:16:17.000Because he outright said, if you don't like how the election is being conducted, speak out, call, write, or meet with election officials.
00:16:22.000Well, as we know, based on what happened in Georgia and the federal charges, that's illegal!
00:16:27.000So I think we're going to have to ask the Republicans to criminally charge this judge.
00:16:35.000I think that's what, when I went to cover opening statements, that was what was interesting about sitting with the families was they were saying like, Kelly is a Trump appointee.
00:16:43.000He's been some, like, he's been more flexible about some things because a lot of them go into this DC courthouse being like, I am in a hostile city where the jury is already biased against our case, and I have a Democrat-appointed judge.
00:16:58.000And this only affirms this feeling from people who support these people saying, you know, the government is out to get us no matter what.
00:17:05.000I mean, 300 people are in jail because of January 6th.
00:17:09.000Over a thousand have been charged federally.
00:17:12.000It just seems like... I can't imagine being a business owner in a city where there was significant rioting during the summer of 2020 and thinking like, wow, I wish someone cared about what happened to me as much as DC cares about what happens to itself.
00:17:26.000I mean, they experienced so much, there was so much loss there, and yet all of the focus is on these people and one specific day.
00:17:35.000This is not... It is incredible naivety to think that a 17 year sentence will set an example for anybody.
00:17:45.000The only example this judge has set is that there is a biased neolib neocon uniparty machine that will destroy your life unjustly If you speak out against them in any way.
00:17:58.000And of course, that's not me defending what Joe Biggs did in tearing down a barricade and, you know, going into the Capitol or whatever.
00:18:30.000When it's the right at the Capitol, I mean, look, and you've also had the left storm into the Senate and, you know, buildings and bang on the Supreme Court doors and go into the Capitol, all of that.
00:19:07.000They're going to say, we're battling domestic terrorism.
00:19:09.000Nevermind what happens to the cities outside of DC.
00:19:13.000Nevermind the people who lost their businesses in 2020.
00:19:17.000We don't care about what happens to them.
00:19:18.000We care about what happens to us as the head of the government.
00:19:21.000This has got to be like, uh, they're anticipating riots if they take Trump off the ballot and they want to intimidate people into not writing or be like, Hey, make an example of Joe Biggs.
00:19:46.000There's a reason that we have this system built like it's built, so that people in the center don't take control.
00:19:53.000I'm sorry, I'm going on and on about this. Let's jump to the story from CNN. The big news today
00:19:58.000was Donald Trump pleading not guilty in a Georgia election subversion case and seeking to sever his
00:20:04.000case from co-defendants who want a speedy trial. That's it.
00:20:08.000Donald Trump sent in a signed document saying that he was waiving his right to appear. He'll be
00:20:12.000pleading not guilty. And we currently await the next steps, which they're trying. Fannie Willis
00:20:20.000wants the trial to be March 4th, but that likely will not happen because what we're hearing,
00:20:25.000they've got 12 million documents released in discovery, and there's absolutely no way a
00:20:32.000defense could prepare in that short amount of time. So,
00:20:36.000So it's creating an interesting predicament, but the big news outside of Trump's not guilty plea is the DA, Fannie Willis, lying to the court Or, uh, it appears to the court.
00:20:48.000In order to justify withholding evidence, we have two tweets.
00:20:55.000Willis wants to advise all the defendants in the Trump racketeering case that decisions by Ken Chaseboro and Sidney Powell to invoke speedy trial rights come with certain consequences.
00:21:05.000Mike Certevich responded, this isn't even true.
00:21:55.000Yes, because they're evil, they're corrupt, and at some point people need to realize this is not law, this is not a judicial system, this is the exercise of political power And the question that's being posed by this judge in the Proud Boys case and by the DA in Georgia is, can we get away with it?
00:22:42.000I mean, I don't think they have much of anything.
00:22:44.000And the way that I was reading the indictment was basically any time Donald Trump complained about something, that was part of the conspiracy.
00:22:53.000So they quite literally were listing all of his tweets, which he has a lot.
00:22:57.000And every single tweet is part of the greater conspiracy at hand.
00:23:01.000And to me, it makes me wonder, like, does the president have the right for freedom of speech?
00:23:09.000Does the president have the right to complain?
00:23:11.000Because we have all these different situations in the past where someone is contesting an election and we have a process in place.
00:23:39.000So... That's why the Supreme Court, I think, will step in because if it sets a precedent that you can't complain about an election that you disagree with and you can't bring claims about an election that you disagree with, that would undermine the Constitution.
00:23:52.000Constitution just allows us for redress of our, you know, of our...
00:23:56.000But I keep hearing from people saying, you know, we've gotten super chats where they're like, Tim, stop acting like the Supreme Court's not going to shut this down.
00:24:03.000And I'm like, just like they responded to the Texas v. Pennsylvania lawsuit, when Texas said that these other states are engaging in election practices in violation of the Constitution, thus subverting a process we're involved in, The Supreme Court said no.
00:24:21.000Because I feel like, it was Thomas and Alito who said, we have to take this.
00:24:25.000But the rest of them were like, nah, we won't.
00:24:27.000You know, the reality is they're cowards.
00:24:29.000And they just wanted the election to be over with.
00:24:31.000You know, I was talking to Will Chamberlain a long time ago about it, and he said... I think he said it on the show.
00:24:36.000The issue is that if they step into this lawsuit, it will expose them as having no enforcement power.
00:24:44.000And so the Supreme Court really has to do light things.
00:24:47.000When they issue rulings, it has to be done in such a way that it can reasonably be accomplished.
00:24:52.000But if they try and do something more drastic, like send back five or six states electoral vote
00:24:57.000counts to be re-litigated, thus changing the results of the election, then there's questions
00:25:03.000as to whether or not they can enforce any of these things when people resist their rulings.
00:25:06.000Yeah, if they ruled on this Trump case and they were like, no, this is not constitutional,
00:25:10.000he had a right to question the elections, all the things he did was constitutionally legal,
00:25:15.000and then the Biden administration continues to go forward with it after Supreme Court declaration,
00:25:19.000that would be just like tearing the threads of society apart. And that's what the Supreme Court's worried about.
00:25:24.000That if they do issue a ruling and the Democrats don't care and keep doing whatever they want, look at it this way.
00:25:31.000If the Supreme Court intervenes and says these charges against Trump are unconstitutional, they violate the Supremacy Clause, blah blah blah blah, and then the Democrats say, so what?
00:25:42.000Supreme Court no longer exists at that point.
00:25:52.000So it's like nine people with some protection against the entire federal government, the FTA, the CIA, the NSA, the FBI, and then against nine dudes sitting, and of course some of them are women, but nine people sitting on the Supreme Court, like they don't have power, it's nine old people, or like nine judges, I mean, but that's true of our whole system, right?
00:26:13.000Like, you have as much power as you can- they have as much power as we consent to give them, and that was the idea of having these three balance- these branches that balance each other out.
00:26:23.000They have as much power as police are willing to enforce against.
00:26:26.000So if the Supreme Court says something like, you can no longer bar people from having guns, That's an interesting question.
00:26:34.000In New York, they ruled that, the precedent was set, that women are allowed to be topless because it is a violation of the Civil Rights Act and constitutional rights for men to be allowed not to wear a shirt, but women being forced to wear a shirt.
00:26:50.000You still have cops arrest women regularly for going topless because those cops don't care what is legal.
00:26:59.000And so there's apparently some like morbidly obese old woman who's in her 50s who intentionally goes around with just like massive old saggy boobs.
00:27:08.000And the police will be like, ma'am, you need to put a shirt on.
00:27:12.000She immediately files a lawsuit and they instantly settle every single time because it is illegal.
00:27:18.000So why is it that these cops are willing to enforce something that's not a law, or that's not legally enforceable, but they'll do it anyway?
00:27:25.000So the issue then becomes, the Supreme Court comes in and says, you have to release Trump.
00:27:57.000There's a Supreme Court, I think they're the Supreme Court police, I might be getting their title wrong, because I remember when, after Roe v. Wade came out, one of the big challenges was the fact that people, you know, their homes, a lot of their homes had been doxed.
00:28:10.000And so they were needing to sort of redouble the support that their security had.
00:28:14.000And I remember Congress specifically passing something to make sure that the protection was extended to their families because it had become so critical because these rioters just stayed outside their house.
00:28:25.000I guess they're not rioters, they're just protesters.
00:28:27.000Yeah, the marshals are the enforcement arm of the U.S.
00:28:55.000It can't be something grand because who's going to enforce it?
00:28:58.000So you're talking about protecting, but protecting themselves.
00:29:02.000But how do you enforce something like that when you're talking about actually possibly imprisoning someone?
00:29:09.000You know, for something that great, you know, I don't think they have much teeth.
00:29:14.000They don't have any real way of enforcing it, so they, like you said, are kind of cowards and they move away from it.
00:29:20.000I think that you combine what's going on with Trump and the J6ers and like Joe Biggs, and they are perhaps intentionally creating a recipe for disaster.
00:29:49.000I'm saying these people fear criminal prosecution for a variety of crimes like Joe Biden engaging in the Burisma scandal.
00:29:56.000The things they accused Trump of Turned out to be lies.
00:30:00.000In fact Ukrainegate was the best because it turned out that Trump was actually the good guy trying to weed out the corruption and then they go and protect Joe Biden instead.
00:30:10.000So there are criminals actively using law enforcement against the just American people who are trying to put a stop to their corruption and it's unsurprising.
00:30:19.000People who want to play by the rules are being beaten down by those who are cheating.
00:30:22.000It's the exact same scenario when you end up with a criminal with a gun Breaking into a liquor store and killing the clerk who doesn't have a gun.
00:30:30.000The law says you can't have a gun, so the criminals don't care and do whatever they want, and the innocent civilians aren't allowed to protect themselves and get victimized because of it.
00:30:39.000And now you have, in the political system, Republicans being like, well, we gotta go slow and play by the rules, and Democrats are like, let's just cheat.
00:30:47.000Do whatever we want, lock them all up.
00:30:50.000And then if we lose, we just burn it all to the ground.
00:31:12.000I think back to Obama, one of the reasons why people were disappointed by Obama, because Obama gave all these lofty goals, like these really big things that he was going to do for the American people.
00:31:28.000But as soon as you start to reject those things, you start to not play ball, you start to reject the establishment, you start to reject war, you start to mess up with other industries, calling out corruption.
00:31:41.000And I think this is this is the counter effect to it.
00:31:45.000So while some people think it's the I don't like his mean tweets, really, it's about him challenging The status quo.
00:31:53.000While I don't think he's perfect, but there's a certain element that pisses people off within the federal government that he's doing, and I think this is part of the punishment for doing so.
00:34:22.000Like, they have decided, Permanent Washington, both parties have decided, that there's something about Trump that's so threatening to them, they just can't have him.
00:34:29.000He later commented, I don't know where it's going, but there's a collusion that's clearly imminent.
00:34:35.000I've never been this worried about anything as I am about where this is going.
00:34:39.000If people don't get serious about their comfort zones, I think they're going to demonize him, indict him, indict him, indict him, indict him, and I think they'll blow his airplane up, Jones said.
00:34:49.000I really, at a gut level, believe they're going to kill Trump.
00:34:52.000There was a story in, I think it was 2015, a guy tried grabbing a gun from a cop at a Trump rally.
00:34:56.000There's already been threats made against Donald Trump, and I guess we can only hope and pray it doesn't come to that, but Tucker makes a really interesting point.
00:36:58.000So I was talking to my girlfriend about this earlier.
00:36:59.000I said, you know, I was passively talking about it and then she was like, wait, everyone's got to pay back their student loans again starting in a couple weeks?
00:37:06.000And I'm like, yeah, something like that.
00:37:08.000And then she was like, they're not going to have the money.
00:37:37.000Then when these 27, 28 year olds don't pay back their loans, and then the lenders say, Your mom or dad is a cosigner and goes to them and says, you got to pay.
00:38:25.000The only circumstance that seems to make sense would be a government bailout of the student loan system.
00:38:29.000And that is going to be a disaster because that's another trillion plus instantly pumped into the economy by way of forgiveness, which will cause massive inflation or has already contributed to it.
00:38:42.000But, oh boy, if you thought Rich Men North of Richmond was bad, wait till you go to the likes of Oliver Anthony and say, oh, here's the best part.
00:38:49.000The highest income earners in the country, who have nothing but disdain for you and told you to go learn to code, just got a $50,000 freebie from the government.
00:38:58.000And if that happened, that would mean, pumping another trillion in would mean that your dollar is worth like 96 cents, right after that happens.
00:39:05.000All those people that already paid their loans back, that have their money devalued, are gonna go f- I mean, maybe not all of them, but a lot of them get angry at people that are taking the government's tit.
00:39:15.000To go back to the initial story, Tucker is saying, where does it go next?
00:39:20.000People need to consider that none of this stuff is happening in a vacuum.
00:39:23.000And when it came to the lockdowns and the George Floyd riots, I actually think the lockdowns were the cause of the riots, not George Floyd.
00:39:33.000I do not believe the George Floyd video is the reason why we had such massive and widespread rioting.
00:39:39.000I think the rioting was likely People were fed up, they were locked in their homes, they were angry, they had no income, their purpose was stripped, they were becoming unhinged and depressed, and then they were given some, you know, a spark for the tinder.
00:39:52.000A lot of people will probably say it was George Floyd, whatever.
00:39:55.000The media definitely said it was George Floyd, but I think, we talked about it at the time, that this pent-up rage from being locked up.
00:40:02.000So you take a look at what's going on with Donald Trump as president.
00:40:05.000You take a look at what's happening now with student loan repayment about to kick in.
00:40:09.000The economy may fall off a cliff in the next couple of months.
00:40:13.000We got the guy from Shark Tank saying it.
00:40:15.000You got Michael Burry of big short fame who shorted the housing market making a 1.6 billion dollar bet against the S&P 500 and NASDAQ.
00:40:25.000And we don't know if he's actually cashed out yet or where he's at.
00:40:30.000But he made a very, very, very big bet against the US economy, and the student loan repayment seems to make the most sense.
00:40:36.000People who don't have jobs, who can't afford to pay their bills, being told the bill comes due, they're not gonna pay it.
00:40:41.000If you go up to a 27-year-old and say, you can pay your rent, you can buy your gas, or you can buy food, or you can pay your student loans, they're gonna say, okay, well, if I don't have food, I die, if I don't have gas, I can't go to work and can't make money, and if I don't pay rent, I'm homeless, sorry, student loans ain't getting paid.
00:40:56.000For anybody that has student loans that isn't able to afford them right now, you can do two things.
00:41:01.000You can put them on a forbearance or you can put them on a deferment, depending on your income level.
00:41:39.000Even though we have evidence, it's so clear the system is broken and potentially could destroy generations of families that have worked really hard.
00:44:31.000But I'm having him think for himself rather than force a narrative onto him that the only way to find success in this world is through college.
00:44:39.000And for me, as someone who worked in IT, I did the same job as everybody else who got their computer science degree.
00:44:46.000I went to an 11-month program You know, for a tech school.
00:44:51.000Instead of four years of bachelors and crazy amounts of tuition.
00:45:50.000So I just, I foresee, I foresee that Europe is like a European style setup that's happening in America, because all the European adults that I know, most of them live with other people, live with other adults that all have roommates.
00:46:24.000What did I say when Roe v. Wade was overturned?
00:46:26.000My concern is that you will end up in a situation where a state that bans abortion says, or encounters a conflict with its citizens, its residents, and a state that has limitless abortion.
00:46:40.000This is a component of that escalation.
00:46:45.000We've talked about, even recently, Colorado and Oklahoma, where in Oklahoma it's completely banned, in Colorado it's completely unrestricted.
00:46:51.000What happens when there's a couple, they're together, they get pregnant, as it were, and then after six months the woman says, I'm just really unhappy, and maybe justified, maybe not.
00:47:01.000Maybe she's a good person, maybe she's cheating and she wants to leave, so she goes, I cannot Leave my husband unless I get rid of this baby.
00:47:10.000So at, let's say, seven or eight months, she flees in the middle of the night to Colorado.
00:47:14.000The man then says, the baby can survive.
00:47:25.000But this is what Alabama has effectively begun the process of.
00:47:29.000And not even in the scenario I described.
00:47:31.000In the scenario where you have like a guy saying, please, officer, law enforcement, The baby is eight months, you know, gestated and can survive outside of the womb.
00:47:52.000Alabama has the power to prosecute people who help women leave the state to get an abortion, according to a new filing from the Attorney General Steve Marshall.
00:48:00.000Marshall has challenged a lawsuit filed by two pro-abortion groups, the ACLU and the Yellowhammer Fund, against the state.
00:48:08.000The AG has asked the United States District Court for the Middle District of Alabama to dismiss the lawsuit.
00:48:13.000In his motion to dismiss, Marshall pointed out the plaintiffs are not challenging the constitutionality of the state's broad ban on abortions.
00:48:20.000Instead, they argue that because some other states allow such abortion, plaintiffs have a right to conspire with others in Alabama to try and have abortions performed out of state.
00:48:31.000Prosecuting someone for forming a conspiracy in Alabama is not an extraterritorial application of Alabama law, simply because the planned conduct is to occur beyond state lines.
00:48:40.000Plaintiffs assert that there is some difference because the object of their conspiracy is legal where it might occur.
00:48:46.000But they don't explain why that makes any constitutional difference, and it doesn't.
00:48:50.000The conspiracy is what is being punished, even if the conduct never occurs.
00:48:54.000That conduct is Alabama-based and within Alabama's power to prohibit.
00:48:58.000Now, to take that interpretation of the law and apply it to the scenario I was just proposing, a woman in the middle of the night decides she's going to leave her husband and travel to another state to get an abortion so that she can leave him.
00:49:13.000The state then says, premeditated murder?
00:49:17.000We're getting you for what you planned in our state, and we have evidence that you packed up, prepared, and sought to leave to go get aid in the killing of a human life.
00:49:39.000The question I ask you, Under this ruling, a woman goes to a Planned Parenthood or an underground clinic.
00:49:46.000But Planned Parenthood is probably the better example.
00:49:49.000And they say, you know, I want to get an abortion.
00:49:51.000They say, we can't do it in state, but don't worry.
00:49:53.000Here's the information you need to cross the borders.
00:49:56.000What happens then when the AG gets a bunch of state troopers and they surround a Planned Parenthood and say, you are all under arrest for criminal conspiracy to commit abortion?
00:50:07.000I'm not saying that happens anytime soon.
00:50:11.000This is exactly what I was worried about when I said, with Roe v. Wade, the next grain of sand in the heap is going to be law enforcement saying, we've banned abortion.
00:50:19.000Doesn't mean you can just go do it somewhere else.
00:50:22.000And then what happens when a person is a fugitive from the law, getting an abortion in, you know, let's say Oklahoma, Colorado is the best example.
00:50:31.000Oklahoma petitions, as everyone's talked about with Trump and the marshals, and how it would go down.
00:50:36.000Oklahoma petitions the federal government and says a fugitive from law is currently in Colorado.
00:50:42.000What happens when Colorado says we're a sanctuary for abortion and we will not allow you to enforce this warrant?
00:50:47.000You got the makings of federal and interstate conflict.
00:50:50.000Yeah, it is kind of hard to understand what'll happen, and I really don't know.
00:50:53.000Alabama's an interesting study for a couple reasons.
00:50:57.000Their abortion ban won't, it says women who obtain abortions are not civilly or criminally liable, so they couldn't go after the woman herself for going out of state, but they could go after, like, the Yellowhammer Fund would pay for her travel, let's say, or put her up on hotel, so they could go after anyone who's involved with that organization.
00:51:14.000The other thing about Alabama to note is that they have the Human Life Protection Act, which passed in 2019, which is also interesting because I remember pre-Roe, we were all talking about this was sort of something a lot of states were preparing for.
00:51:25.000They were updating their abortion related laws.
00:51:28.000And with the Human Life Protection Act, it defines the fetus as a person legally.
00:51:36.000So again, they were taking steps to define all of these things that we debate and that are debated nationally all the time because they have a strong position on it and what they want to do.
00:51:47.000And like I said, I think it's hard to tell what would happen.
00:51:51.000So with Alabama, they wouldn't go after the woman.
00:51:52.000They would go after, you know, her friend who drives her out of state, maybe, or whoever pays for her hotel or something like that.
00:52:00.000What if she calls an Uber and gets an Uber across state lines?
00:52:03.000Do they arrest the Uber driver for a conspiracy even if they didn't know what was going on?
00:52:07.000I mean, I think it would be hard to...
00:52:10.000If that did happen, the arrest of the Uber driver, and I'm not a lawyer, I just play one on this podcast apparently, but if the Uber driver took someone out of state and then had to go to court and was like, I had no idea, I've never met this person, I work for Uber, it would be very hard to then have a conviction in my opinion.
00:52:25.000Yeah, how could you ever prove conspiracy unless you have a recorded conversation?
00:52:28.000Right, but if it's a couple and they get pregnant accidentally and they go out of state, if the woman can't be Why can't the pregnant woman herself be criminally charged?
00:52:44.000That's just Alabama law and a lot of states have something like that.
00:52:47.000A judge will probably strike that down in two seconds.
00:52:49.000I mean, the law's in effect, but maybe if it were to go to trial, it'd be tested.
00:52:53.000If this gets tested, you can't have a scenario where a woman is sitting—a pregnant woman sits down next to her not-pregnant friend, and the pregnant woman says, I want to abort this baby, and the friend says, I can give you information on a clinic, and then they go, ah, but only the woman who said she knew where the clinic was goes to jail.
00:53:19.000I'm actually the more old-school Democrat pro-choice position.
00:53:23.000I'm just saying these two laws can't legally exist.
00:53:27.000Because you're going to end up with someone challenging the constitutionality of the criminal conspiracy saying, for what reason does this one criminal act have an exception where the person who initiates the conspiracy is exempt from the law?
00:53:40.000And the judge is going to have to say, you can't do that.
00:53:43.000Either the law applies to everybody or nobody.
00:53:46.000And if the law itself is conspiracy and not abortion, then the pregnant woman must be charged with conspiracy along with her friend.
00:53:53.000But the part that confuses me is that you're saying that Alabama says that the fetus is a human being.
00:54:00.000So wouldn't it be conspiracy to murder?
00:54:06.000I mean, I'm just trying to think of like, what's the actual charge?
00:54:09.000Personally, I don't think that there's enough here I don't think there would be enough here to prove the conspiracy angle.
00:54:18.000And on top of that, is there much enforcement for it?
00:54:20.000Like, you can create as many laws as you want.
00:54:22.000Is there going to be much enforcement?
00:54:23.000What does enforcement look like, right?
00:54:25.000Yeah, I hate this idea of arresting, charging someone for something they did outside of the jurisdiction where it was illegal.
00:54:31.000Like, weed's illegal in a state, so you go to a state where it's legal to get high, you come back and they're like, you're a fugitive, you just broke the law.
00:54:58.000It's been around for hundreds of years.
00:55:00.000If you are in a state and you come together with buddies and plot a crime in another state regardless, But if it's not a crime in the other state?
00:55:09.000You're plotting to go to another state to gamble, for instance.
00:55:12.000Is that conspiracy now because it's illegal here?
00:55:13.000That's why the Attorney General's statement of, like, it's an Alabama law and it's illegal here, and so that's what matters, is what he's saying.
00:55:20.000I just, I don't think that a state can decide what I can do in another state.
00:55:48.000Washington is basically very pro-abortion.
00:55:50.000They've got all kinds of Sometimes you can undergo an abortion, but Idaho was much more restrictive and so they had this abortion trafficking law saying, like, if I'm remembering the language correctly, it's specific to minors.
00:56:01.000So if a minor got pregnant and approached Planned Parenthood or approached, you know, a friend's mom and said, can you please take me to Washington or wherever, Washington is just the key example, to get an abortion, that adult could be brought up on criminal charges because they are...
00:56:19.000If they don't tell the minor's parents.
00:56:21.000So if they traffic a kid out, a pregnant teenager, out of the state to get an abortion and bring them back, that's against an Idaho law.
00:56:27.000And the governor of Washington was really adamant that this was a terrible idea and asked them to take it down.
00:56:33.000Ian, you make a really, really good point about the absurdity of a system based on pure logic that would say, if it's illegal here, you cannot plan to do it.
00:56:44.000And that's interesting because you mentioned gambling.
00:56:46.000Texas, for instance, I just did a quick cursory search.
00:56:50.000It is a crime to place wagers on sporting events and, you know, card games.
00:56:55.000They have card houses, for the most part, where you're allowed to do it.
00:56:58.000So it's questionable as to what they determine to be gambling.
00:57:01.000And I guess the issue with poker in Texas is that it's considered a skill game, so it doesn't fall in the same category.
00:57:05.000But the biggest casino, I think, in the country is on the border, just north of Texas, in Oklahoma.
00:57:10.000And that's where everyone drives to to go.
00:57:12.000Clearly, you have to talk with your friends and make a plan to go drive up to the world's biggest, the country's biggest casino, I think maybe one of the world's biggest casinos, and then, I think it's like a mile wide or something, and then commit crimes.
00:57:24.000But what that really tells us is our legal system is based on culture and morality and not the written letter of the law.
00:57:31.000Like I said a million and one times, it's illegal for women to skydive on Sunday in Florida.
00:57:35.000Google it, it's true, they don't arrest anyone for doing it.
00:57:40.000There's a ton of laws in the books, like you can't put an apple pie on the windowsill on Tuesday, because it mattered back then, but doesn't matter now.
00:57:47.000The question that's being asked right now is, as our culture breaks down, and law becomes the pure exercise of power, all that matters, and I guess this is actually a more black-pilled prescription, or perception, perspective, When you're looking at the Joe Biggs case and they're saying, we're going to give him 17 years because he's a terrorist, it's like, were the terrorist laws written to prevent a guy from knocking down a four-foot steel barricade?
00:58:25.000You have the question of skydiving in Florida.
00:58:27.000No one's going to enforce that because nobody left or right would agree with the enforcement of it.
00:58:31.000No one in Texas agrees that you should criminally prosecute someone for conspiracy because they went to go gamble 45 minutes away in Oklahoma.
00:58:40.000They did conspire to commit a crime in the future.
00:58:42.000And it doesn't matter where they do it.
00:58:44.000So now the question is, when it comes to abortion, what will we see in terms of the morality?
00:58:49.000You are going to have AGs who are pro-life.
00:58:53.000You hear Seamus on the show when he says abortion should be banned nationwide.
00:58:58.000In the moral view of a pro-life AG, abortion must be stopped.
00:59:03.000In a state like Alabama where they've banned it?
00:59:06.000They're going to use the law to whatever novel claim they can to enforce a ban on abortion.
00:59:13.000It sounds like the beginning of an attempt at pre-crime, where they're going to get you and arrest you before you do the crime, just by thinking about it kind of thing.
00:59:21.000But conspiracy is a component of criminal action.
00:59:25.000But I think that the issue here is, you're right, but it shows that laws are only enforced based on what our society deems to be morally acceptable or unacceptable.
00:59:35.000No one would stand for a couple of drinking buddies being like, we gotta go up to Oklahoma on Sunday and hit the blackjack tables and the cops bust in the door be like, you're busted for conspiracy to gamble!
01:00:33.000What I think we're seeing with the polarization of politics in this country is Democrats aren't going to stop because their base demands it.
01:00:40.000They want to get elected, they'll do whatever they have to.
01:00:43.000Republicans don't want to stop because they want to get re-elected and they'll do what their base says.
01:00:47.000Both sides are demanding more and more dissociative outcomes, or dissociated outcomes.
01:00:54.000The right says no abortion, the left says unlimited abortion, and now their states have
01:00:58.000to escalate that policy and procedure, which means in states with unrestricted abortion,
01:01:44.000Gavin Newsom will then say, we will use the powers of our government to protect you if they try to persecute you.
01:01:50.000And then Alabama will say, if the feds won't do it, we will send our law enforcement or hire private contractors to go and retrieve the criminal fugitive.
01:02:26.000Well, look at where we're at right now.
01:02:29.000States are either banning it outright and threatening to criminally prosecute those involved like Alabama is, or they're doing the inverse, saying that there is no restriction at all on when an abortion can take place, and they will defy the federal government from intervening in a warrant.
01:02:43.000It is so wild that the states are so different like that.
01:03:28.000And if states like California are like the polar opposite, well, if they're going to do that, we're going to do this.
01:03:34.000Then that could be something that you see someone like Gavin Newsom saying, well, you know what?
01:03:38.000If they're saying they can't have abortions, we're going to not only we're going to say they can do it here, but we're going to put them in housing here, too.
01:04:51.000For the first time in more than three years, federal student loan borrowers will be required to pay their monthly student loan bills starting in October.
01:04:58.000The pandemic-related pause, which went into effect March 2020, provided relief to nearly 44 million borrowers by freezing their accounts.
01:05:06.000Interest will start accruing again on September 1st after rates were effectively set to zero.
01:05:12.000Since March 2020, we know that now interest rates, which are fixed and vary by loan, will return to the same rate they were before the freeze.
01:05:19.000But borrowers still won't need to take any action until their first monthly payment is due, which means if you don't take action, you will be accruing interest on your debt and then have to pay more money.
01:05:29.000For most, as an aside, the difference between a forbearance and a deferment is that a forbearance means you don't have to pay, but you're still accruing interest, whereas a deferment, you don't pay, but you don't accrue interest, and those are ideal, you know, if you're going to put them off.
01:05:41.000For most borrowers, the first payment will be due sometime in October, but not everyone has the exact same date.
01:05:46.000Borrowers can expect to receive their bill listing their payment around the due date at least 21 days beforehand.
01:05:59.000These questions aren't really as relevant.
01:06:01.000What happens if I don't pay my student loan bill?
01:06:03.000Because interest will start accruing on September 1st, not making a payment will result in a borrower owing more on their student loans over time.
01:06:09.000But for the next year, through September 30, 2024, the government is providing what it's calling an on-ramp period, during which borrowers are shielded from other normal consequences of missing a payment.
01:06:18.000A loan servicer won't, for example, report the loan as being in default to the national credit rating agencies.
01:06:24.000Borrowers don't need to apply for this benefit.
01:06:28.000This is one of the funnier elements of this.
01:06:31.000It means that as the economy starts crumbling and debt spirals out of control, you won't be able to know about it because they're not going to report the delinquencies.
01:06:40.000That means when that on-ramp period ends, you're gonna see delinquencies from like 3% to like 43% overnight.
01:06:48.000I wonder if we get to a point, just like we were just talking about with laws, where people are like, I don't respect that law.
01:06:54.000People are just like, I don't respect my debt.
01:06:57.000I think there are a lot of people who say stuff like that.
01:07:03.000I mean, ultimately, theoretically, the consequences.
01:07:05.000But this is why the argument of, like, Joe Biden campaigned on, I am going to forgive student loans.
01:07:11.000That was him saying, essentially, I'm going to bail you guys out.
01:07:14.000And that's what people, why people feel attached to him, I think, and why it's potentially the biggest flaw in his campaign, because there are people who need or are counting on the fact that they will not have to pay these loans.
01:07:25.000Because they see it as an impossible financial hurdle.
01:07:29.000I was going to say the biggest problem for me is that there's nothing stopping it from happening again if they were to bail everybody out, right?
01:07:39.000Unless they stopped issuing government-backed student loans, which they won't do.
01:08:24.000So they said, if we're going to step up even more and invest in the American public, we can't have them all defaulting because that would default the government.
01:08:32.000Rather than just be like, maybe this isn't a great system, maybe we should consider not issuing these, maybe we shouldn't be so obsessed with college being the one path to anywhere in America.
01:08:41.000I get that banks are for profit, so they want to charge you interest to make money, which is disgusting, but that's the system.
01:08:48.000But that the government is doing this for profit, that they're going to loan me money and then expect interest back?
01:08:54.000I don't want to pay them back more than 20 grand.
01:08:56.000I've already paid $13,000 in interest.
01:08:58.000But it's not so much about a profit, it's about how the modern monetary system works.
01:09:03.000And with the creation of the money supply, what they want you to do is pay back... Don't get me wrong, a lot of these interest rates are greater than the rate of inflation.
01:09:11.000But a component of it is, if the economy is inflating by 3%, we want you to pay back comparable buying power.
01:09:19.000If we give you 100 apples, we want 100 apples back.
01:09:22.000In a year, apples are going to cost more money.
01:10:11.000O'Leary argued that not enough money is being pumped into small businesses and blamed most recent Fed hikes, including a benchmark raise of 0.25% last month, yadda yadda yadda yadda.
01:10:19.000The only thing I really care about this article is it's another high-profile business person sounding the alarm bells on the economy.
01:10:26.000And after learning about what's about to happen with student loans kicking in and a lot of people not being able to pay them back, It is not unreasonable in my opinion that that could be a large catalyst or at least a small component of.
01:10:36.000I don't know if it's the big component or the small component of some kind of economic crisis.
01:10:40.000Especially if it hits the co-signers on the student loan debt.
01:10:44.000And then of course you have, I've mentioned several times, Michael Burry betting against the US stock market.
01:10:49.000It seems like the people who have a lot of money are concerned the market's going to take a hit. I have no
01:10:55.000I got people asking me every day, like, should I buy property right now? I'm like, I have no idea.
01:10:59.000Because they're like, but if the market's going to crash, I'm like, maybe, probably. I have no,
01:11:03.000I have no idea. What upsets me the most and so infuriating is we get these jobs numbers out
01:11:08.000every month and the White House or mainstream media take your pick. They put this positive
01:11:13.000little spin on it and wrap it up in a little bow.
01:11:15.000Rather than just telling the Americans, hey, here's the problem and here's what you guys can do as citizens of this country to help everybody and work towards resolving this problem.
01:11:24.000Because it is so complex and there's no easy solution out of this.
01:12:18.000Is when you see these videos at a Times Square, where someone goes up to another person and says, name a country that starts with the letter U, and they can't do it.
01:12:26.000Or they say, like, who's the current president of the United States, and they can't, they don't know it.
01:12:30.000And they'll say, like, when did America get its independence?
01:12:37.000And you have a lot of these people, they vote, and when you see these videos, there are powerful individuals who then are deeply offended that these people are consuming resources and polluting, and so they turn around and say stuff like, we need to get a control on overpopulation because there's too many of these people weighing us down.
01:12:55.000You then get phrases like useless eaters, you get weird international policies such as you will own nothing and you will be happy, and ultimately that means, Ian, you will not get your cold fusion and your spaceships, because in the event that there's an energy revolution on par with, like, this level of fusion energy, which is insane, that would mean a massive and explosive population boom.
01:13:34.000But the other thing is like college is a, is a business, right?
01:13:37.000Like I don't even know that all degrees are equal.
01:13:40.000And I think there are programs that are probably great, but generally.
01:13:43.000People are paying to have their certificate.
01:13:45.000They are not actually always advancing to the level that we'd like them to see or that would be implied by the fact that you went to college.
01:13:51.000A lot of people are in debt, basically having graduated by the skin of their teeth and having learned nothing.
01:13:57.000I mean, there are colleges that closed during COVID because the enrollment is so low and because, ultimately, the business of college is failing.
01:14:34.000I don't want to give everyone cold fusion packs just yet, but hydrogen fuel is lightweight and could be cheaper than gasoline.
01:14:41.000I'm thinking about what is about to hit the economy and perhaps the only solution is going to be student loan debt forgiveness in some capacity.
01:14:50.000It was easy to say when we were talking about 24 and 25 year olds up to maybe like early 30s that we don't want to forgive student loans.
01:14:59.000These older people have all paid them back.
01:15:01.000It's like, look, these people hate the why it's not fair.
01:15:03.000There's a lot of questions about fairness, about making the working class pay the bills of the highest income earners.
01:15:09.000But I think there is a a harsh reality to Whatever your opinion is, you're presented with two parent factions, or parent paths to take.
01:15:20.000One, we do not bail out the people who have student loan debt, and then these people who are in their mid to late 30s and 40s, don't have families, don't have kids, don't buy property, become angry and purposeless and violent.
01:15:32.000Or, we do bail them out, and the people who are supposed to be the crux of the economy Resume working, have the load taken off their backs, and it stabilizes things a little bit.
01:15:44.000It's a question about the 2008 crisis, when they bailed out the banks.
01:15:48.000Do you let the economy just course correct, shock everybody?
01:15:52.000There is going to be large amounts of death because of this, because of the economic crisis?
01:15:57.000Or do you bail out, alleviate some of the crisis, extend it for a little longer, but reduce the amount of death?
01:16:04.000I think that the reasonable approach that the government will likely want to take is going to be a bailout, whether Joe Biden wants to or not.
01:16:11.000And in fact, you may see this in 2024, Joe Biden coming out and saying, one of the biggest drags on our economy right now is student loan debt, and you all know it.
01:16:22.000Each and every one of you that has settled the debt that you can't pay back as you're living paycheck to paycheck, we will get it done.
01:18:05.000When the guys who bet against the housing market were wondering why their credit default swaps were stable as delinquencies were skyrocketing and the mortgages were becoming worthless.
01:18:16.000It's because the banks were lying about what was going on so they could offload their exposure to unsuspecting smaller banks and lenders or individuals.
01:18:26.000So they would go and say, hey, this is worth a lot of money, you should buy it.
01:18:29.000Then as soon as they offloaded all their debt, they went, market's exploding, have a nice day.
01:18:54.000I know you guys kind of started talking about with the defaulters.
01:18:58.000I don't know about arrest, but what I will say is, if you actually want to solve a problem, you first, you identify what's causing the problem.
01:21:32.000In 10 to 15 years, we'll be back at the same point.
01:21:35.000Yeah, it seems like the college system is decrepit at this point, and that you can educate yourself online and learn faster, more readily, and from home.
01:21:43.000Are the salaries of the presidents of colleges public, generally speaking?
01:21:48.000I'd be so curious to see how much money upper management is making at these schools, because I had no idea about the adjunct professor thing, and that's crazy.
01:21:57.000The president of Yale makes 1.9 million a year.
01:22:01.000And remember, there's like the adjunct professors, but then they hire crazy administrative blow, right?
01:22:06.000There was an administrator and a sub-administrator and someone who helps with the paperwork and whatever else all the way down.
01:22:12.000So if the point of the institution is to have, you know, professors that are researching and studying things, that they're good educators, why are they not the priority?
01:22:20.000Why do we have 85 administrators for every one professor?
01:22:23.000That's not the actual statistic, I'm making that up.
01:22:26.000But they're never incentivized to cut the fat.
01:22:36.000So if the government said, we will only give money, but only up to a certain amount, and they started doing that wide scale, they'd have no choice but to cut the cost.
01:23:24.000I've always heard the inverse that colleges raise costs because basically they were guaranteed that you would be able to pay tuition instead of being like, well, what can the average family or the average individual reasonably pay to attend our school?
01:23:35.000They were like, well, you just take out a loan.
01:23:48.000Except half of your scholarship is a loan.
01:23:50.000So they're presenting it to you like, wow, we really want you to come here, but actually what they want is for you to take out a loan to go there, which is what everyone wants you to do anyways.
01:23:58.000That's also what the federal government wants you to do.
01:24:00.000One time we talked about it on the show.
01:24:03.000I don't advocate that you give to your university, but if you were to, why can't you give directly to a student who is trying to pay off their student loans?
01:24:11.000Why can't you cover a portion of tuition instead of it going into a pool where then the 800 administrators that they have decide who gets it later?
01:24:18.000Why can't you have a more direct contact with the student?
01:24:21.000Because, again, ultimately a lot of the money goes into the endowment, which never really reaches the people who need it, like the program heads, like the adjunct professors, like the students.
01:24:56.000Like, I don't know any other way to put it.
01:24:58.000What if we had like a Patreon thing for online college?
01:25:01.000I know Jordan Peterson's working on setting up an online college and there's like...
01:25:05.000Phoenix University, which was kind of a predecessor, I don't know how that works exactly, but like, if you could watch the individual students learning and you're like, I love that guy, I love how fast he's learning, I want to give him ten bucks a month.
01:25:23.000So what you do is, you create an online university that gets accredited, that issues degrees, and then you say, here are all the professors and all the subjects we have available, and when you enroll in one of these classes, you are paying monthly to that professor.
01:25:37.000The professor, like, 5% goes to the university, or 10, like, whatever.
01:25:40.000Like, 10% makes sense, because there's, like, transactional fees, and then server fees.
01:25:45.000But it's basically a Patreon for education.
01:25:48.000And then when you complete the course, you'll get a degree from the university.
01:25:51.000But for me, who's not even at the school, I just get to watch them learn online, the kids.
01:25:55.000And they don't have money, some of them, so I want to fund them to go to college.
01:26:30.000Yeah, there's non-profit foundations and grants, and there are foundations that will be like, We give a grant to Asian-Americans who are low-income and want to go to college, and then they contact the institution, they fill out paperwork, and they say, write us an SNY, we should give you the money, and if you get approved, we pay for your college.
01:26:46.000Yeah, but I guess I would like to cut out the middleman where it's like, if I had money, I could give it directly to a student at a school.
01:27:01.000I mean, one of the challenges is that education is great, and I think people feel starved for that in a way, and I wish we had more decentralized way.
01:27:11.000I mean, YouTube is the great example, right?
01:27:12.000Everyone always says you can look up anything on YouTube.
01:27:14.000You could learn so much, and that's amazing.
01:27:17.000I wish that, like, It would be cool if cities had, like, more... I mean, public libraries do this and stuff.
01:27:22.000It's just we default to thinking the university is what's providing the lecturers or the things that you can go to just to learn.
01:27:29.000And I think that's where we kind of get this, like, shopping mall effect with universities.
01:27:36.000We think that's sort of where you go, like, after you finish high school, you go there and you get all the skills you need and then you leave.
01:27:41.000It's all kind of centrally located, but really, you know, if you're actively interested in a subject, you have to be more proactive.
01:27:47.000The university isn't going to really educate you on a lot of things, especially, we've talked about this before, when you come out of high school, not knowing how to pay your taxes and things like that.
01:27:56.000Like, there are skills that you just continue to put off, and then finally you're like, what, 22, 23, getting out of college, and maybe you learn something, but also you don't have any practical skills.
01:28:33.000Meanwhile, these people who spend God knows how much money spend how many years within school come out knowing nothing and making less and like it's everything is is the inverse and it doesn't make any sense.
01:28:46.000I think we are starting to get back, and I'm trying to do this as a parent,
01:28:50.000to tell my son that intellect is not necessarily what the teacher puts on your grade.
01:29:45.000Then they wonder why they're broke and in debt.
01:29:49.000There's tons of pro athletes, especially in skateboarding, easy example, tons of them quit high school to go pro at skateboarding and now they're millionaires.
01:30:27.000I was like three and a half years in and I was so done with it.
01:30:29.000It was just like, what is the point of this?
01:30:31.000They're going to give me some paperwork that no one's going to ever look at anyway.
01:30:34.000And the whole idea when I was going in was like, well, once you get that degree, it's going to help you get the job, like the temp job where I'm typing on a computer that I don't want to be doing anyway.
01:30:51.000There's a story on Fortune that says that Bill Gates dropped out of high school during his sophomore year, but then ultimately did attend Harvard.
01:30:57.000So I don't know where he falls into this spectrum, but kind of interesting.
01:31:00.000Well, I love that you point out the difference between intelligence and knowledge.
01:31:19.000And there's some brilliant people that don't know anything, because they just weren't around the information to learn it.
01:31:23.000Like, I've met some dumb people in my days who can, like, cite tons of information from books, like, encyclopedic, like, in knowledge, but they can't put two and two together.
01:31:31.000Those people are dangerous when they get into positions of power.
01:31:33.000Yeah, they can tell you who the 17th president was when they got inaugurated, and they have all this knowledge, and they can't explain the basics of a logical problem or anything like that.
01:31:43.000And then I know people who are really, really fast, can solve any problem.
01:31:47.000You give them a Rubik's Cube, and they're like, oh, I can figure this out real quick.
01:31:49.000And you're like, wow, that's an intelligent person.
01:31:52.000And then there are people who are wise, and they say knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, and wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad.
01:32:04.000Because you can say intelligence is your comprehensive abilities, not your understanding of application of knowledge, necessarily.
01:32:11.000Like, someone who's intelligent can solve a puzzle very, very quickly, but might put a tomato in a fruit salad because they've not yet experienced it and don't understand.
01:32:18.000And someone that's wise might be like, I don't have the time for this right now because I've got some other things that are more important.
01:32:23.000Yeah, I always felt like school was about how much you can remember.
01:32:30.000And I read this really great article that said no one should go to college unless you're IQ tested at 110 or above.
01:32:39.000Old articles, probably from 20 years ago, and the argument was that schools are basically memory centers.
01:32:45.000They try to get you to remember things, but they don't teach you what the things mean.
01:32:49.000So what ends up happening is young people will gain knowledge without understanding.
01:32:55.000They'll then jumble these ideas up in their minds in confusing ways because they know things, but they don't understand things.
01:33:01.000Then they go to college and experience the same thing.
01:33:04.000Where many of these ideas are beyond the average person, but we're trying to get average people to go to colleges, you end up with people saddled with debt and unhappy and not able to find work.
01:33:14.000Alright, well, that being said, we'll go to Super Chats!
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01:34:48.000Yeah, we're actually potentially planning some kind of VIP event because we're talking about like an elite members thing.
01:34:53.000But we might open it up to non-elite members.
01:34:55.000Like, well, we're trying to figure it out.
01:34:57.000I don't want to say too much until I can finalize everything with the people actually doing the work to organize it, because I could just look at all angry if I'm, like, telling people things that we haven't finalized yet.
01:35:05.000But we want to do, like, some kind of VIP scenario.
01:35:08.000So we want to do an elite members meetup, and then some kind of VIP thing, but we'll figure it out.
01:35:15.000Bonk Bonk says, we need a cast brew coffee house in Herkimer County, New York.
01:35:35.000It was supposed to be earlier in the year.
01:35:37.000But, uh, the issue is our building is a historic building.
01:35:40.000And, um, we're trying to, like, you gotta respect a historic building.
01:35:43.000We have, like, an elevator from, like, the 1900s, like, one of the first elevators ever put in a building, so it's super old, and that gives us issues.
01:35:58.000I think that's a good time for the community.
01:36:00.000There's no reason you have to have a brick-and-mortar there to start franchising.
01:36:04.000No, I think Subway didn't have one, but I'm not doing this because it's like, oh boy, here's an opportunity to get people to buy something.
01:37:04.000But we are looking to hire someone now to begin the process of creating the system before we even launch, and then it's possible that before it opens, we could even have people getting the ball rolling on opening their location.
01:37:16.000Where can people reach out if they're interested to get involved with Taskbrew?
01:37:35.000And if anybody wants to hit me in Slack with the data of where people can contact, if they want to sign up to work with Cast Brew Coffee, let me know.
01:38:09.000Bocephus says, I'm still thinking of moving to New Hampshire, but then the Republican Scanlon is trying to get Trump off the ballot, and to quote Tim, Florida has apocalyptic weather, where's my freedom and liberty?
01:38:20.000Yeah, and I'll tell you, that's the thing about West Virginia, is it's really great, but man, it's got red tape.
01:39:10.000That was at least a year ago when I read that article, but yeah, it's- I mean- Well, the concern- I love it here, so don't come and buy up all the housing.
01:39:16.000Well, we want people- I'm just kidding, obviously.
01:39:17.000Because the concern that I'm hearing is that woke people are starting to come in.
01:39:20.000And they're disrupting the local laws, they're disrupting the culture, and they're acting like they're the victims when it happens.
01:39:27.000Weird stuff going on with like, you know, Martinsburg had a drag show for kids, and I'm like, how is this happening in West Virginia, in Berkeley County?
01:39:34.000Well, it's because the people who live here don't understand what's going on, and we need people to come and help reinforce that culture, and be like, no, no, no, we're not gonna do that here.
01:39:51.000Gitch says, there's a video floating around of employees of an Ace Hardware in Seattle threatening customers with a bat, and then eventually a fight broke out, all because the customers didn't want to wear a mask.
01:39:59.000I think that's an old video though, isn't it?
01:41:04.000The Democrats are wiggling their fingers in your face saying, I'm not touching you, I'm not touching you, I'm not touching you.
01:41:08.000And the moment you do anything, the cops jump in and arrest you.
01:41:11.000But if you stand there and smile smugly and say, I think you're doing this because you know you're going to lose next year, they're going to start crying.
01:41:19.000You've got to make sure that everyone is handling things peacefully.
01:41:24.000That's the way to do it, because I think Trump has a really strong chance to win.
01:41:27.000Now, of course, we have some paper chats, which I'll probably get to in a second, where people are like, yes, but we'll talk about it, we'll talk about it.
01:41:34.000Heron Gaming News says, Tim, can you please add Cast Brew Coffee, CBC, I like that, to the links in the description.
01:41:40.000Also, I'm trying Rise with Roberto Jr.
01:41:47.000We gotta keep him separate from the ladies, though, because a lot of them are his daughters, and we do not want him, you know, banging his daughters.
01:43:14.000You know, when we had Michael Bloomberg advertising on my channel, he was advertising on my channels, and it's like my ad revenues through the roof.
01:43:21.000And people are commenting on the video like, this video where you insult Michael Bloomberg was sponsored by Michael Bloomberg.
01:43:47.000I'm excited for all the Democrat and Republican ads that will appear on all of our channels, which we will use to engage in culture building.
01:43:53.000Did you know that Bloomberg was doing multi-language ad buys?
01:45:21.000We're getting really close to the idea of a universal translator where you're wearing a headphone and you just hear your native language as they speak their native language.
01:45:29.000My Google just tried to translate what you were saying, dude.
01:45:31.000Talk about when he's like, initiate order 51.
01:45:34.000Like, dude, someone could come on a TV show and say, Alexa, play Fountains of Wayne.
01:47:57.000You can do any name you type in there, but it works best on the first name, the original, because how many people have said the name and have talked to the machine has all this data.
01:48:07.000We gotta get Casper Coffee on Amazon so that we can, you know, we can say, advice by Casper Coffee.
01:48:44.000Admar says, With Biggs' sentence, I got the same pit in my stomach as when I read about Ross Ulbricht and his sentence.
01:48:50.000Hit harder having a one-year-old daughter.
01:48:53.000Yeah, both of the men, Reels and Biggs, have young children, and I think that's just incredibly sad.
01:48:58.000Also, I think Biggs' daughter is living with his, from what I know, very ill mother, so he's a male support system that's been completely removed from that family.
01:49:07.000We have another Casper commercial coming out soon.
01:50:49.000You know, there's gonna be like a new New Testament later on, and it's just like the nation of the United States was full of fat, lazy people who didn't care for responsibility, and their culture burned to the ground.
01:51:02.000Dude, it's the fentanyl thing, man, and they're lacing fentanyl with this drug that the DEA is attempting to put on a Schedule 1, the stuff they're lacing with, and they're moving marijuana.
01:51:12.000Biden proposed it to the Department of Health and Human Services, who accepted it, who sent it to the DEA to move marijuana from Schedule 1 to Schedule 3, so it can now become researched.
01:51:23.000Matt Gaetz and the head of the DEA were going back and forth about how horrific the opioid crisis is.
01:51:29.000These synthetic opiates are called opioids, and that marijuana can help people get off of it.
01:51:41.000Like, we got a president that's like, Man, Hunter smokes so much- I was thinking of Biden talking about Hunter, and he's like, Dude, he smokes that- so much of that junk anyway!
01:51:49.000Alright, Jeremy B says, Hannah Clare, please assume the two-handed Tiffany Gomez pose and say that MF-er is not real.
01:51:55.000I don't know what the direction she's pointing is.
01:53:50.000We had a guy call in a member who was a firefighter and he says, when the winds are 80 miles an hour and the fire is blowing past you and you're burning and you can't breathe, you just you go down.
01:53:58.000And so the people that were trapped in their cars, the fire swept in so quickly, many of them didn't make it out.
01:54:21.000But, uh, the Fourteenth Amendment is interesting because it defines that no one can be denied human rights, but it also says being born in this country.
01:54:28.000But if those are two separate provisions, then you don't need to be born to be a citizen.
01:55:50.000The answer is supposed to be Congress, and Congress won't do anything about it because the Democrats just need a wedge issue, and Republicans don't have any real power right now.
01:55:59.000If the Republicans had the presidency, the Senate, and the House, I'd imagine they would have passed an abortion ban.
01:56:42.000But if it were to happen now, I would not be surprised.
01:56:46.000I think it's more likely that you get an abortion ban at the congressional level.
01:56:50.000I think once we have artificial wombs that are totally functional in use, then they can outright ban abortion in the whole country, but we're so far away from that.
01:57:01.000I think that's one of the only things that comes to my mind when it's like, how do you solve this issue and just be done with it?
01:57:07.000And artificial wombs comes to my mind.
01:57:08.000To think that you could ban something that's been happening for hundreds of thousands of years is like… What an insane, in my opinion, insane proposition to ban it outright.
01:57:17.000But anyway, I don't want to take away from the superchats.
01:57:19.000But banning doesn't mean it never happens.
01:57:21.000Like, people have been smoking pot for eternity, and then the U.S.
01:57:24.000banned it, and it was almost entirely wiped out.
01:57:26.000People still did it, it still existed, but for the most part, people did not.
01:57:29.000Oh yeah, I should say, there's no way to effectively ban it, in my opinion.
01:57:33.000Right, just procedurally, and then criminally punish those who go against the law.
01:57:38.000Alright, think on this as you are all conflating an act against one's self versus an act against another.
01:58:25.000Those are constitutional rights questions.
01:58:27.000And that's why I found it interesting that Alabama had taken steps to sort of legally define what if—to give a fetus a legal personhood status years before we even reached the Roe v. Wade turnover.
01:58:39.000Eight-month-old, like a two-week-old baby after it's born, if you stop feeding it, you'd be charged with neglect, homicide.
01:58:46.000If it was eight-month-old, and it's delivered, but needs a machine to survive, but it's for-profit, you gotta pay money to a company to work the machine, is it still neglect if you say, no, I don't want the machine?
01:58:58.000I think at eight months, the baby does not need a machine.
01:59:02.000If it's still like machine-level premature?
01:59:04.000I'm pretty sure, but- So that's why I just picked a random number, but if it still needs a machine, is it neglect to not use the machine and just let it die?
01:59:11.000But I don't think you have that choice.
01:59:13.000If the baby's born premature, the hospital tries to save it.
01:59:16.000It's like saying, you know, you brought a person with a gunshot wound to a hospital and said, don't help them.
01:59:21.000They'd be like, okay, and then they'd do it.
01:59:23.000And then they charge the mother, like, cost for, hey, we had to do this with your baby, now you owe us $40,000.
01:59:28.000And the mother's like, I don't have have any money, which was why I was getting the abortion in
01:59:46.000I mean, that's the thing that's in place right now.
01:59:49.000It's the whole, uh, leave your baby in a basket at the fire department.
01:59:52.000Like, you can actually do that, and you're not going to be charged by any monetary amount, any crimes, and it relieves you of the child, you know?
02:00:39.000Yeah, there's still, like, legal fraud, you know, when you tell your buddy what stock's about to pop, because you're in Congress, or they work for the company that's about to pop the stock, and then you make the bet.
02:00:53.000That banning something can make it go away, or diminish.
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