Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - August 15, 2022


Timcast IRL -Trump Reports FBI Seized Passports Indicating Incoming Criminal Charges w-Nick Searcy


Episode Stats

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2 hours and 4 minutes

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200.543

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24,991

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2,010

Misogynist Sentences

16

Hate Speech Sentences

24


Summary

On today's show, Nick Cerca talks about the latest in the Trump/DOJ saga, including the raid on Trump's private jet, the potential for him to be charged with a crime, and what it means for the upcoming mid-term elections. Plus, a new music video for the song "Only Ever Wanted" by Timcast.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 you you
00:00:27.000 earlier today Donald Trump reported that the FBI had seized his passports
00:00:42.000 even as expired passports or more than one.
00:00:45.000 And now many people are saying that he's a flight risk, perhaps because he has a jet that says Trump on it.
00:00:52.000 It's a very large one indeed, so I wonder why they would think he would be a flight risk.
00:00:57.000 So, um, yeah, that's the only reason I can imagine that they would do this.
00:01:01.000 Now, apparently the DOJ is going to be releasing more information on the affidavit.
00:01:05.000 We'll see where that goes.
00:01:06.000 But, uh, this is all indicative of, they're probably going to criminally charge Trump.
00:01:11.000 Earlier today, I was saying, I didn't think it was going to happen.
00:01:13.000 I still perhaps due to normalcy bias lean towards, there's no way they could, they could pull this off because it's actually, it's getting Trump supporters fired up.
00:01:23.000 But maybe they don't care.
00:01:25.000 Maybe after this raid it looks way too partisan.
00:01:28.000 Maybe it backfired on them and their only opportunity now is to lean into it.
00:01:32.000 So we'll see.
00:01:33.000 Donald Trump has warned that something terrible is going to happen to this country and he's offering to help lower tensions.
00:01:40.000 I don't know if that will be enough or what this means, but the fact that Trump said it actually suggests to me it's worse than we probably realize when Trump is coming out saying things like this, because I think he knows.
00:01:51.000 And we'll get into that.
00:01:53.000 We also have predicted.
00:01:55.000 Ron DeSantis is now favored on predicted to win.
00:01:58.000 And I see a lot of people saying, oh yeah, but Trump's leading in the polls.
00:02:02.000 Predicted isn't a poll.
00:02:04.000 It's people predicting.
00:02:06.000 Which means, if you ask someone who they'd vote for, they might say Trump.
00:02:09.000 If you ask someone who do they think will win, they're saying Ron DeSantis more than Trump, but it's still fairly close according to predicted.
00:02:16.000 And it could be because people expect Trump to be jammed up by the DOJ.
00:02:22.000 So we'll get into all that stuff.
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00:03:53.000 And I also want to announce, Next week, we are releasing our music video for the song Only Ever Wanted, performed by Timcast.
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00:04:24.000 Okay, that was an aside.
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00:04:29.000 Joining us today to talk about the big news is Nick Cercia.
00:04:34.000 Hello everybody!
00:04:35.000 Glad to be here.
00:04:36.000 I usually don't come back places.
00:04:38.000 I'm glad to be back here for the second time.
00:04:40.000 Most of the time it doesn't happen.
00:04:42.000 We've had enough of him.
00:04:44.000 Yeah, so what do you do?
00:04:46.000 I'm an actor and a director and a producer and a husband and a father and that's about it.
00:04:56.000 All right on.
00:04:57.000 Got any new movies that recently came out?
00:05:00.000 Terror on the Prairie came out not long ago with The Daily Wire.
00:05:03.000 It was released in June and that's out and ready to be viewed at your leisure.
00:05:09.000 And I've got a movie coming out later in the year called The Old Way with Nicolas Cage.
00:05:14.000 Two westerns in one year.
00:05:16.000 Right on, right on.
00:05:17.000 And you were in that with Gina Carano, among others.
00:05:19.000 Awesome.
00:05:20.000 Well, I look forward to talking about all the news and we'll get into all the Creative Projects stuff.
00:05:23.000 We also have Hannah-Claire Brimelow.
00:05:25.000 Hi, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
00:05:26.000 I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
00:05:28.000 I'm also co-hosting Pop Culture Crisis this week in Mary's absence, so check that out at 3 p.m.
00:05:34.000 Hi everyone, Ian Crossland from iancrossland.net.
00:05:36.000 Happy to be here.
00:05:37.000 Nick, I also see you've got a documentary behind you.
00:05:39.000 I believe you produced that, didn't you work on that as a producer?
00:05:41.000 That's right.
00:05:41.000 I produced it and I conducted some of the interviews.
00:05:44.000 Capital Punishment, it's available at capitalpunishment.locals.com.
00:05:48.000 It's about what really happened on January 6th and the aftermath that's going on.
00:05:53.000 For sure.
00:05:54.000 I think this is just, I mean, forgiveness.
00:05:55.000 And I've been talking a lot about pardons in general.
00:05:58.000 Maybe we can talk about this later on the show.
00:06:00.000 But with Trump coming out, talking about de-escalation, I think this is very topical.
00:06:03.000 I'm glad you brought that too.
00:06:05.000 Thanks, man.
00:06:05.000 Hi, everyone.
00:06:06.000 All right.
00:06:06.000 I am also here in the corner pushing buttons.
00:06:08.000 Love having Ken and Claire.
00:06:09.000 Excuse me.
00:06:10.000 Love having Nick back for sure.
00:06:12.000 I'm excited to get into the news.
00:06:13.000 Let's get going.
00:06:13.000 Here's the first big story from Newsweek.
00:06:16.000 Donald Trump labeled a flight risk after saying FBI took his passports.
00:06:22.000 Newsweek reports, Trump wrote in a post on his Truth Social platform that the FBI stole the passports, one of which he said was expired during the search on August 8th.
00:06:31.000 This is an assault on a political opponent at a level never seen before in our country.
00:06:34.000 Third world, he wrote.
00:06:36.000 While Trump did not offer any details on why the FBI may have wanted the passports, some Twitter users suggested that it was because the ex-president was viewed as a flight risk.
00:06:44.000 Attorney Seth Abramson wrote in a Twitter thread on Monday that if the news was true, The FBI is acknowledging what I've long said, this is a quote, which is that as a factual matter, Trump is a flight risk.
00:06:55.000 And I just got to point out, perhaps it was the giant 757 with Trump's name on it that made them concerned Trump might be able to leave the country.
00:07:03.000 But I also want to add just very, very quickly as well, for you guys, you know, people like Trump don't live the way we live.
00:07:10.000 All right.
00:07:11.000 Donald Trump does not need a passport.
00:07:13.000 Donald Trump is a billionaire.
00:07:15.000 Donald Trump makes a phone call.
00:07:16.000 Actually, Donald Trump probably doesn't even make a phone call.
00:07:19.000 When he charters his flights, his people probably call the people of the country he's going to, and they don't need to verify Donald Trump's identity.
00:07:26.000 And the amount of money that he has and investments in many of these countries, they're gonna roll up the red carpet for him.
00:07:30.000 People don't realize this stuff.
00:07:31.000 So, I'm wondering why this happened.
00:07:34.000 And of course, there's some speculation, maybe that in the documents they grabbed, they didn't realize that a box had Trump's passports in it or something.
00:07:43.000 But I'm just not giving the benefit of the doubt to the FBI.
00:07:45.000 I think they took his passports.
00:07:46.000 I think their only option now is to lean into.
00:07:50.000 If you're going after the king, you can't miss.
00:07:52.000 And so, earlier today I said I didn't think that they would indict him.
00:07:56.000 With the information coming out now that they plan on releasing more information about these affidavits, I'm starting to lean the other direction.
00:08:02.000 I think they might have no choice.
00:08:04.000 But again, man, I really don't know.
00:08:05.000 I don't know.
00:08:06.000 What do you guys think?
00:08:07.000 It bothers me that the DOJ is like, we oppose releasing the affidavit after they claimed that they were going to promote transparency.
00:08:14.000 I mean, you can't really have it both ways.
00:08:16.000 They're citing national security concerns, but again, it seems like everything is lined up.
00:08:21.000 They just don't want to admit what they're doing.
00:08:24.000 And don't you have to be charged with something before you become a flight risk?
00:08:27.000 I mean, they haven't really formally charged him with something.
00:08:31.000 I mean, look, I'm not a lawyer, a criminal lawyer, but I have watched Law & Order.
00:08:37.000 I've been on a lot of TV shows.
00:08:40.000 No, I'm pretty sure you can be instructed not to leave during an investigation.
00:08:44.000 But they didn't even do that.
00:08:45.000 But they didn't do that.
00:08:46.000 That's what I mean.
00:08:48.000 I don't know how you can declare somebody a flight risk if you haven't been charged with anything.
00:08:53.000 Where's he running from?
00:08:56.000 Trump said he was declared a flight risk, right?
00:08:58.000 Well, no, no.
00:08:58.000 People on social media are saying this.
00:09:00.000 So it was nothing formal.
00:09:02.000 It's just the fact that they are prohibiting him from leaving.
00:09:06.000 They can't declare him unofficially.
00:09:08.000 They're just taking away his ability to leave.
00:09:10.000 They're not really.
00:09:12.000 Donald Trump can call Saudi Arabia and be like, listen, I'm coming in, roll out the red carpet, and they're going to do it.
00:09:16.000 They're going to be like... Bringing a very nice plane.
00:09:19.000 It's one of the best planes.
00:09:20.000 We'll get you on it.
00:09:21.000 I'll get you drinks.
00:09:23.000 So the question is, this is what's tough.
00:09:27.000 The FBI didn't announce criminal charges.
00:09:29.000 They're gonna be releasing more information.
00:09:31.000 They're saying that he's under a criminal investigation for obstruction of justice and the Espionage Act.
00:09:36.000 So I would say, yeah, the FBI can't declare him, or maybe they can't formally seize his passport, so they just sort of took him.
00:09:45.000 They accidentally took them in the raid.
00:09:46.000 Yeah, oops!
00:09:47.000 Now he can't leave.
00:09:48.000 We had no idea they were in that box that we specifically put them in.
00:09:51.000 What is this obstruction of justice for what?
00:09:53.000 I guess it's January 6th?
00:09:55.000 I don't know.
00:09:56.000 The Espionage Act is related to the National Archives.
00:10:00.000 The withholding of documents.
00:10:01.000 It might be the classified document thing, right?
00:10:04.000 That they say he has all these classified documents, which he says he declassified, which he could declassify.
00:10:10.000 Simply by saying it.
00:10:11.000 Yeah, just by saying they're declassified.
00:10:12.000 I watched a video earlier with Comey talking with Hillary Clinton, just superimposed, juxtaposed to each other, where he's saying, you know, in her emails we found 30 plus... 110.
00:10:24.000 110 classified pieces of information in her Gmail account.
00:10:28.000 I think it was all in her Gmail account.
00:10:29.000 Saying it shouldn't have been in a Gmail account.
00:10:31.000 It was on a private server in her house.
00:10:33.000 A private Hillary Clinton server had 110 classified documents.
00:10:37.000 Out of 30,000 public records that she did not have the legal authority to destroy.
00:10:42.000 So keep that in mind.
00:10:43.000 She had classified documents in her personal server.
00:10:46.000 So let's just keep that in mind.
00:10:48.000 I want to keep that in mind when we're talking about Trump.
00:10:50.000 And she's not a president.
00:10:51.000 She was Secretary of State, which does not have unilateral declassification powers.
00:10:57.000 So here's what I try to explain to people.
00:10:58.000 Imagine you're the president.
00:11:00.000 And you're going to negotiate with Gorbachev about nuclear armaments and you sit down and you say, look, we know you got missiles in Turkey and you gotta move those.
00:11:11.000 And then he goes, okay, well then what about your missiles that you have placed in, you know, around us?
00:11:16.000 Oh, I can't talk about that.
00:11:17.000 They're classified.
00:11:18.000 Sorry.
00:11:18.000 I have no idea.
00:11:20.000 That's insane.
00:11:20.000 Of course, the president can decide to tell an enemy about our weapons.
00:11:25.000 He's the Commander-in-Chief.
00:11:26.000 He has to be able to negotiate that.
00:11:28.000 It would be insane to be like, let me get back to you and see if I can get the bureaucrats to determine if I, the President, have the authority to negotiate armaments.
00:11:35.000 That's what would be happening with Biden right now.
00:11:37.000 I don't think that's the case.
00:11:39.000 You can't let Biden make it.
00:11:41.000 Biden probably doesn't know anything about the nuclear codes, but that's because they can't, you know, trust him.
00:11:46.000 And they're not willing to admit that.
00:11:48.000 I think you're totally right.
00:11:48.000 There's no way for Trump to have been as an effective leader as he was without anything to negotiate with.
00:11:54.000 It doesn't make any sense.
00:11:55.000 But all presidents.
00:11:56.000 Every single one of them.
00:11:57.000 Now again, I'm seeing these memes go around where it's, you know, it's like there was one meme of a little girl and she's got like a shocked look on her face.
00:12:04.000 And it's like, if you chanted lock her up over Hillary's emails, and now you are defending Trump, let's just admit it was never really about the emails.
00:12:13.000 And then I just I'm like, I'm gonna I'm gonna respond on Facebook because I waste time trolling sometimes.
00:12:17.000 or I should say trolling. And I just responded with very matter of fact, sorted, politifact,
00:12:23.000 several sources said Hillary Clinton had 110 confidential emails on a private server,
00:12:28.000 and they politely investigated and then said there was no intent to have an ICE day,
00:12:32.000 even though she was Secretary of State with no declassification power.
00:12:36.000 Donald Trump, after Kevin Clinesmith was sentenced to probation for fabricating evidence to justify
00:12:42.000 spying on the president, you can't expect me to believe that Trump has done something wrong.
00:12:46.000 No.
00:12:48.000 The benefit of the doubt is gone, and you need to prove you had a legitimate reason to do this.
00:12:53.000 But still, Donald Trump as the president has broad declassification powers, so I just don't see anything here not to mention the warrant for the search of Trump's home said from the first day of his presidency to the last day of his presidency.
00:13:05.000 How is that constitutional?
00:13:08.000 The Fourth Amendment prohibits unreasonable search and seizure.
00:13:12.000 You need to be able to be like, we believe you have this document that says this thing, and we're going to prove it.
00:13:18.000 Instead, they're just like, yeah, take it all.
00:13:21.000 Every single thing you got.
00:13:22.000 And then an Epstein judge signed off on it.
00:13:24.000 How about that?
00:13:25.000 I'm sorry, a judge who had been a lawyer defending Epstein's lieutenants.
00:13:30.000 I want to make sure I'm being clear on that one because it's actually worse than saying an Epstein judge.
00:13:34.000 It's so much worse.
00:13:35.000 I don't know if Epstein had lieutenants.
00:13:36.000 Who are they?
00:13:37.000 Yeah, my friend Larry Correa, who's an author, he said, if I put that in a book that the judge who signed this affidavit worked for Epstein, people would say, oh, come on!
00:13:48.000 The editors would reject it and be like, it's a little too much.
00:13:50.000 We can't do it.
00:13:51.000 Yeah, I wouldn't ever.
00:13:52.000 Well, and there's so many outlets that are like, we're just going to skip reporting that.
00:13:55.000 We don't want to mention it because it starts to sound as sketchy as it really is.
00:13:59.000 That's a really crazy story, right?
00:14:01.000 It's all, you know, there's a bunch of viral memes.
00:14:05.000 Viva Frye, I think posted this.
00:14:07.000 It's a it's a it's a montage.
00:14:08.000 Yeah.
00:14:09.000 Is it a mural?
00:14:11.000 It's a mural.
00:14:11.000 It's whatever.
00:14:12.000 Mural?
00:14:12.000 It's not really a mural, I guess.
00:14:14.000 It's a it's a montage of pictures.
00:14:17.000 All of these verified individuals saying that they've gotten COVID and they're so grateful to be vaccinated and protected.
00:14:23.000 Now, I'm not going to comment on the COVID nonsense.
00:14:26.000 The CDC put out guidelines saying that their policies now for the unvaccinated and vaccinated are the same or whatever.
00:14:31.000 I'm not here to comment on that.
00:14:32.000 I'm here to comment on the identical posting of all of these people around the world makes me feel like there's like one guy behind all the accounts just copy and pasting everything.
00:14:41.000 And then I saw that and I was like, You guys ever see that video that Deadspin put together where all of the news anchors are saying the exact same thing?
00:14:52.000 It just feels like that.
00:14:53.000 It really just feels like there's a machine.
00:14:57.000 It's all fake.
00:14:58.000 These people aren't real people.
00:15:00.000 They're not saying real things.
00:15:01.000 They're not having real thoughts.
00:15:03.000 And there are world leaders who are of that, and there are news anchors who are of that, and that's freaky.
00:15:09.000 It is a machine and people are being fed a narrative.
00:15:12.000 But the crazy part is it's not fake.
00:15:14.000 It's real.
00:15:15.000 They're real people.
00:15:16.000 They're just allowing themselves to be changed by their superiors.
00:15:20.000 It reminds me of the phrase party line.
00:15:22.000 Like when I'm researching stories to write for the site, you know, you'll see that AP News put out a story.
00:15:27.000 AP News does that a lot.
00:15:28.000 And then it gets picked up in 87 different places.
00:15:30.000 And there's no other original reporting into this.
00:15:33.000 So you just have the party line.
00:15:35.000 Repeated over and over again, the same statistics, the same quotes, the same perspective, but because it's multiple outlets, they're acting like, oh yes, we're all reporting this very important story that actually only one of us wrote.
00:15:45.000 It's why the theory that there's like one guy putting out the same posts for every country, like, doesn't seem that crazy to me because they just copy what the other people are doing.
00:15:52.000 Dead Internet Theory.
00:15:53.000 You guys know about that?
00:15:54.000 You know about that, Nick?
00:15:55.000 Dead Internet Theory?
00:15:56.000 The idea is that sometime around 2016, the internet basically became fake.
00:16:02.000 Like, almost all of the posts are made by AI and bots to manipulate public opinion, and the average person doesn't really engage anymore.
00:16:08.000 And, uh...
00:16:10.000 I don't know if I would believe that, but I would believe that mass censorship was enacted on such a scale that the average person has no voice and only a small percentage of approved people are actually posting.
00:16:21.000 And that's pretty much reality.
00:16:23.000 Yeah.
00:16:23.000 Well, I'm so shadow banned.
00:16:25.000 I mean, you know, my posts don't get very much penetration ever on Twitter.
00:16:29.000 Right.
00:16:31.000 I think we see it a lot that when it comes to censorship, high profile people get censored periodically, but it's always the smaller accounts who get hit instantly without notice and without reason.
00:16:41.000 It doesn't make sense.
00:16:43.000 And I hear this from people when I go out and talk, you know, I'll meet some regular guy and I'll be like, I had a hundred followers and they banned me because I posted a news story.
00:16:50.000 And who are you going to tell?
00:16:51.000 What are you going to do about it?
00:16:52.000 Right.
00:16:52.000 So that kind of makes me feel like, you know, if we go back to when Elon Musk was trying to buy Twitter, now he apparently doesn't want to buy it.
00:16:58.000 When that weird shift happened, and overnight, people associated with, like, Libertarian, Conservative, or Independent all saw a massive gain in subscribers, and the left saw a massive drop-off.
00:17:09.000 Really does make you think the dead internet theory might be real, and we're just arguing with bots 24-7.
00:17:15.000 The internet was what?
00:17:15.000 DARPA tech?
00:17:16.000 ARPA.
00:17:17.000 ARPA.
00:17:17.000 It was military technology, basically.
00:17:20.000 I think it was created as a weapon, basically.
00:17:23.000 Or it's like, it's gonna get created, so let's create it first.
00:17:26.000 The internet?
00:17:27.000 Yeah.
00:17:28.000 And now it's being used.
00:17:30.000 I mean, I was watching Jimmy, you know, Bright Insight, he does research on, I don't know what his last name is, but Jimmy is his first name, his YouTube channel is Bright Insight, talking about search results coming back, and like, he would search like January 6th, and then he'd say 800, or 8 billion search results, here you go, and every page he'd go to would be showing him the same results, it would be Wikipedia at the top, a certain January 6th page they want you to see, then he'd go to like next page, Wikipedia at the top, the same article again on the next page, next page, same thing.
00:18:01.000 This is Google.
00:18:02.000 And then he tried a different search engine.
00:18:03.000 I think he used like DuckDuckGo and he was getting the same problem.
00:18:07.000 So I think it's becoming very clear that the military is using it.
00:18:11.000 If it's not the military, I don't know who, but someone is using the internet right now as a tool.
00:18:16.000 Well, yeah.
00:18:16.000 Greater than the masses that are also using it as a tool.
00:18:19.000 It could be emergent in that special interests and corporations, you know, for one reason or another are pushing in this direction.
00:18:27.000 You can say it's political, you can say it's criminal, you can say it's capitalistic or whatever, but there's an incentive for Google and these companies to do what they do.
00:18:35.000 I honestly think, you know, have you watched The Orville?
00:18:38.000 No.
00:18:39.000 Seth MacFarlane's space show?
00:18:41.000 No, I'm not on it, so I don't watch shows that I'm not on.
00:18:43.000 Oh, okay.
00:18:44.000 Makes sense.
00:18:44.000 I feel like that's the opposite of what a lot of actors say.
00:18:46.000 Like, I never watch my own movies.
00:18:48.000 The Orville started as like comedy Star Trek, and they did a new season on Hulu, which is dead serious.
00:18:55.000 Actually, I think it's really good.
00:18:57.000 They had one episode where there's a planet of only men that are trying to force gender transition babies, and they're like, basically people are smuggling little girls off.
00:19:06.000 It's crazy.
00:19:07.000 But anyway.
00:19:08.000 In one of the later episodes they talk about how when there's no currency anymore, because in their sci-fi future they invented matter replicators like Star Trek, and so they're like, there's no more need for money or currency.
00:19:21.000 And so this person from a lesser developed world says then why would anyone do anything?
00:19:25.000 And one of the characters explains, you know, to do good for society.
00:19:29.000 And it got me thinking about where we are now in the United States and why people aren't working.
00:19:36.000 Somehow, people aren't working.
00:19:38.000 They have money?
00:19:39.000 I don't know.
00:19:39.000 You had that CNN news anchor who said that, I can't remember her name, but she said she was quitting as part of the Great Resignation.
00:19:46.000 And so I'm seeing something happen where all of these people are quitting their jobs.
00:19:50.000 Announcing it on TV.
00:19:52.000 And I'm like, you must have money where you don't need to work.
00:19:57.000 How are people not working?
00:19:58.000 Well, we heard with pilots, for instance, there's a shortage because they all retire.
00:20:02.000 It seems like what we're seeing right now is what happens to a society when currency is not particularly valuable and survival is easy.
00:20:10.000 Virtue becomes currency.
00:20:12.000 So instead of trying to have cash and use cash to flaunt your wealth, wealth is meaningless.
00:20:17.000 Everybody's got air conditioning.
00:20:18.000 Everybody's got clean drinking water.
00:20:20.000 Everybody's got a hot shower.
00:20:21.000 So what do you have to flaunt?
00:20:23.000 Well, some people will get gold chains and some people will stand up on a pedestal and scream about how virtuous they are.
00:20:29.000 One by one, more and more people start seeing virtue as wealth, and virtue as currency, and you get hyperpolarization, cult-like behaviors from the mass media, which ultimately leads to societal breakdown, I suppose.
00:20:44.000 So, in that regard, when I look at these sci-fi depictions of a future with no currency, and I'm like, they didn't see this one coming.
00:20:51.000 What they predicted was everybody would be like, I'm gonna make society better!
00:20:55.000 But what they didn't predict was, how does making society better manifest?
00:20:59.000 It manifests with creepy weirdos talking about giving children sex changes and things like that.
00:21:04.000 They don't know what better is.
00:21:07.000 Nobody does.
00:21:07.000 Right.
00:21:08.000 And it becomes subjective.
00:21:09.000 It's like your idea of better is not the other guy's idea of better.
00:21:14.000 And I think it's also some Atlas Shrugged going on.
00:21:18.000 I think there's some aspect to it.
00:21:21.000 If you're not going to get ahead, if what you're working for suddenly is meaningless, and the money doesn't mean what it used to mean, then why are you going to put forth all that effort?
00:21:31.000 Why are you going to work that hard when you don't have to?
00:21:33.000 I'll give you a really good example.
00:21:34.000 TimCast.com.
00:21:37.000 I always talk about how we started this not because of money.
00:21:40.000 It's like I started making videos because I care about something.
00:21:43.000 Everything has become mission-driven.
00:21:45.000 When I was working for that ABC News joint venture, Fusion, they said the future is mission-driven storytelling.
00:21:52.000 Now, in their minds, it was going to make them money.
00:21:55.000 And then, you know, like people will click on it, it'll work.
00:21:57.000 And that's a capitalistic way to view it.
00:21:59.000 Ultimately, it goes insane, becomes woke, because woke is the safest path for a lot of these people.
00:22:04.000 For us here, you know, the people who are working here at Timcast are doing it because we believe in what we're doing and we want to do something good.
00:22:11.000 It's very much like virtue-based currency.
00:22:14.000 Obviously, you need hard currency so people can eat food and pay rent and all that stuff.
00:22:18.000 But I think, you know, for better or for worse, you're going to have a society built upon who is actually doing good, who thinks they're doing good, and who is doing bad.
00:22:29.000 But like but thinking they're doing good how that will end up playing out There's no guarantee anyone wins, but I can say Cheaters win men, you know as much as people want to rag on cheating If you cheat, you don't get caught.
00:22:44.000 If there's a hundred people racing and someone cheats, they're gonna win.
00:22:46.000 I mean, you look at these blood doping, you look at the Tour de France.
00:22:51.000 Who was it?
00:22:52.000 Was Lance Armstrong accused of... I don't want to accuse him because I don't know the full details.
00:22:55.000 But cheaters win, and they win for a long time, and they get all the glory and stuff, so... Just look at professional wrestling.
00:23:01.000 They've been winning for years, the cheaters.
00:23:03.000 That's right.
00:23:04.000 I mean, allowing someone to take a chair from the stands and use it?
00:23:08.000 Chairs should be banned from those arenas.
00:23:10.000 And the ref's not looking?
00:23:12.000 And then we all see it happen.
00:23:14.000 That's right.
00:23:14.000 I think once you get a certain amount of cheaters in society that they start Cheating each other and you start to see a more value of honesty.
00:23:22.000 There's this weird simulation.
00:23:23.000 I wish I could remember what it was called.
00:23:25.000 Anyway, I don't want to go too deeply into it, but it shows you like it would give you like what if you have 99% honest people and 1% cheaters?
00:23:31.000 Well, the cheaters actually win in those situations.
00:23:35.000 They win in all situations.
00:23:36.000 Unless there's cheaters.
00:23:37.000 If it's 99% cheaters, they tend to cannibalize themselves and then you find virtue coming out of it.
00:23:42.000 It's hard for them to win against one another.
00:23:43.000 That's a good point, actually.
00:23:44.000 But it's also who gets to define cheating.
00:23:47.000 If you have the government that says cheating is actually fair, which is what you have in California, you can't get those people out of office because you can't vote them out.
00:24:01.000 It's not possible.
00:24:02.000 Well, it's like changing the definition of inflation, right?
00:24:05.000 But we'll clarify that.
00:24:06.000 I think you can vote them out.
00:24:07.000 The problem is you've got a zombie cult.
00:24:12.000 Imagine this.
00:24:12.000 If everybody woke up at the same time in California and voted, then yes, those politicians would be gone.
00:24:19.000 The problem is these people believe the lies from the media and there's no convincing them.
00:24:25.000 Like, you can show them every article in the world that RussiaGate was a lie, UkraineGate was a lie.
00:24:31.000 These people still believe Jussie Smollett.
00:24:33.000 These people believe the nuclear document story that just came out.
00:24:36.000 There was no evidence!
00:24:38.000 Washington Post cited anonymous sources familiar with what the agents were looking for.
00:24:44.000 And that was fact.
00:24:46.000 Responsible, factual reporting.
00:24:48.000 How do you convince someone, if they keep believing all this stuff after lie after lie after lie, to do something else?
00:24:55.000 You don't do it.
00:24:56.000 I mean, I don't know how you do it.
00:24:57.000 Well, there's a lot of those people, but there's also a lot of other people in California.
00:25:01.000 There's a lot of people like me that don't believe that stuff.
00:25:05.000 And I'm telling you right now, I think Newsom was recalled.
00:25:08.000 But the way they structured it, the mail-in ballots and everything they did, look what they just did with Gascon.
00:25:15.000 They disallowed over 200,000 votes out of the 700,000 signatures out of the 715,000.
00:25:24.000 They just disallowed those so that the recall didn't work.
00:25:29.000 We'll definitely get into that story for sure.
00:25:31.000 Yeah, the recall.
00:25:32.000 They've said that 88,000 were not registered voters.
00:25:36.000 And then we have to verify those things.
00:25:38.000 But the issue I take with... It's too defeatist for me, man.
00:25:42.000 It's frustratingly defeatist.
00:25:44.000 You've got right now...
00:25:46.000 A historical defeat that's supposed to be coming in the midterms, and every time someone comes out and says, no, you can't win, then people give up, and then they don't vote.
00:25:53.000 It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, when in reality, Donald Trump won, and it caused such chaos and tumult for the establishment that it's brutal chaos.
00:26:05.000 So, no, I disagree.
00:26:07.000 The thing is, though, he won in 2016 pretty handedly, and we saw time- And not really.
00:26:16.000 You're right.
00:26:16.000 It wasn't a landslide.
00:26:17.000 88,000 votes between three states.
00:26:19.000 It was like a shoestring.
00:26:21.000 But that's just because they didn't steal enough.
00:26:24.000 I mean, that's why they were so mad in 2016, is they thought they'd stolen enough.
00:26:28.000 I really don't think so.
00:26:30.000 I think they wouldn't have run Hillary Clinton.
00:26:34.000 She thought it was her turn.
00:26:36.000 They think they're invincible and they lost.
00:26:38.000 And I think it's quite honestly, I think it's kind of insane to think that Donald Trump actually wins.
00:26:43.000 They have to use the full force of the DOJ to go after him to jam him up.
00:26:48.000 But then this idea is that Trump secretly won the whole time.
00:26:51.000 I really They're going after Trump with the DOJ because they have no idea how to stop him from winning.
00:26:56.000 If it was true that they could cheat in the elections, they would not be going after Trump.
00:27:00.000 They would not be raiding his house.
00:27:01.000 They would not be taking his passports.
00:27:03.000 They'd sit back and laugh because they're the cabal.
00:27:05.000 But the reality is, Trump got 74 million votes.
00:27:08.000 He got 12 million more votes than last time.
00:27:11.000 Now, I certainly think we can take a look at 2020 because, you know, I've seen all the stuff that came out in 2000 Mules and I think there are questions for sure.
00:27:18.000 But the reality is, COVID lockdown, sports are gone, movies are gone, and then I get to watch all of my skateboard friends who don't know what Supreme Court justice even means post videos of themselves dropping mail-in ballots for Joe Biden.
00:27:33.000 And then what happens is Donald Trump comes out a month later telling everybody that's not actually why he lost, and then they lose the Senate because of it.
00:27:40.000 Trump won in 2016.
00:27:43.000 Trump and the Republicans in the establishment in many states voted to change rules that heavily favored Democrats, whether they realized it or not.
00:27:51.000 Probably a lot of them realized it was going to happen.
00:27:53.000 Now they have to use the FBI and the DOJ to go after Trump because he will win in 2024 unless they weaponize the DOJ against them because they don't have control of the election system.
00:28:03.000 See, I disagree because they're not just going after Trump.
00:28:07.000 They're going after everybody who supports Trump.
00:28:09.000 Which proves their desperation and inability to control an election.
00:28:13.000 No, which proves that that's part of the cheating.
00:28:17.000 They're trying to neutralize all the people that do support Trump.
00:28:20.000 If they could cheat, why would they need to go after Trump's support and why would they need to try and indict him?
00:28:24.000 Because they cheated in 2016 and it wasn't enough.
00:28:27.000 And they know now that it's even worse.
00:28:29.000 That makes no sense.
00:28:31.000 It makes perfect sense to me.
00:28:32.000 They lost in 2016, then they sent Russia-gate after Trump, they sent Ukraine-gate after Trump, they made up lie after lie in the media over and over and over again, and that worked.
00:28:44.000 But Tim, you just said Trump got 12 million more votes in 2020 than he got in 2016.
00:28:51.000 You don't think that that happened because they cheated.
00:28:54.000 There's no way that Joe Biden got 81 million votes.
00:28:57.000 You're wrong.
00:28:59.000 There's no way.
00:29:00.000 He got 20 million more votes than Obama.
00:29:03.000 That's right.
00:29:04.000 Did Obama have a pandemic?
00:29:07.000 Before Obama, did they shut down movies?
00:29:09.000 But the pandemic allowed them to do the mail-in ballots.
00:29:13.000 And mail-in ballots gives huge advantages to urban centers, regardless of anything else.
00:29:20.000 So if your argument is that it was cheating to change the election system, like in Pennsylvania, by implementing universal mail-in voting, I understand your point.
00:29:28.000 The issue I take is when people started claiming, like, Uh, widespread fraud and things like that.
00:29:33.000 And the issue with it is... They didn't need widespread fraud.
00:29:37.000 They needed fraud in six counties.
00:29:40.000 So, to clarify then, that is what I refer to with the idea of widespread fraud.
00:29:46.000 The issue is, it's extremely easy for Democrats in six counties to spend tons of money to go door to door and say, fill that out, put it in the box right there.
00:29:54.000 Did you do it?
00:29:55.000 I'll wait.
00:29:55.000 Republicans can't do that.
00:29:57.000 When that happens, it is extremely easy when you've taken away people's jobs, when you've taken away their entertainment, when you've blamed Trump the entire time.
00:30:05.000 When Donald Trump started doing pressers nightly, CNN and all these other outlets, immediately they cancelled showing his live events because it was improving his ratings.
00:30:15.000 The whole goal was to manipulate people into voting in their direction.
00:30:19.000 I'm flabbergasted at the idea that Trump did win in 2016, but people still think they cheated, which I don't understand.
00:30:28.000 He won.
00:30:28.000 He literally won.
00:30:29.000 They've been cheating for decades, Tim.
00:30:31.000 But what do you mean by cheating?
00:30:32.000 They didn't just start in 2016.
00:30:34.000 I'm talking fraud.
00:30:36.000 Voter fraud.
00:30:37.000 They've been stuffing ballots.
00:30:39.000 Look at what happened with the Minnesota Senate race with Al Franken.
00:30:42.000 Trump is evidence of the contrary.
00:30:43.000 What happened with Al Franken in Minnesota?
00:30:45.000 Well, they kept finding more votes.
00:30:47.000 That's how Al Franken got in the first time.
00:30:49.000 It's like, he lost, and then they said, oh, we found these 500 votes that were in the back of a church, or they found something in the back of a car.
00:30:57.000 They found enough votes.
00:30:59.000 And they've been doing this for years.
00:31:02.000 They've been doing it since Kennedy-Nixon.
00:31:04.000 I think it's not out of the ballpark to suggest that it's definitely possible that people have been cheating voting systems since the dawn of man.
00:31:11.000 But without hard evidence, it's impossible to make valid claims.
00:31:17.000 And it's people that cheat are very good at hiding the evidence, which is, you know, so that's why good criminals don't get caught.
00:31:23.000 I'll tell you what bugs me is there's a lot of stuff that came out in 2020 that was easily proven false.
00:31:31.000 And it's frustrating.
00:31:33.000 There was that video of ballots being pulled out from under tables.
00:31:39.000 And it was just like, if you watch the actual security footage, you watch them take ballots and put them in boxes and put them under the table, and then you watch for several hours, they pull them out, and then they start counting all at the same time.
00:31:50.000 And I'm like, those ballots came in the same, like, normally.
00:31:53.000 And people were, like, posting these memes claiming that the ballots came out of nowhere from under the table, and I'm like, watch the full video, please!
00:32:00.000 But what's really frustrating is, for one, I fully support an inquiry and investigation into all of the elections, every single one of them.
00:32:06.000 After a year and a half, there's nothing to show for it?
00:32:11.000 I mean, I've had multiple people on to talk about this over and over again, and it's surprising to me that despite causing the defeat of Republicans in the Senate, Republicans still keep saying over and over again that they can't win.
00:32:23.000 It's like, bro, November is in three months.
00:32:25.000 You need to be telling people the opposite.
00:32:26.000 You need to be telling them, you can win, you're gonna win, make sure you get every single one of your friends out to go vote.
00:32:32.000 Instead, you've got people coming out being like, what's the point?
00:32:34.000 You're gonna lose anyway.
00:32:35.000 That to me is insane.
00:32:37.000 I'm not saying you can't win.
00:32:38.000 I'm saying they're going to cheat.
00:32:41.000 You have to overcome the cheating.
00:32:44.000 And you have to find it whenever you can.
00:32:46.000 But how come they've only found circumstance or they've found questionable matters?
00:32:54.000 What happened to the Arizona audit?
00:32:56.000 What's going on?
00:32:57.000 We actually have those guys go down and do that full thing.
00:32:59.000 We had constant talk about it.
00:33:01.000 It's coming next week.
00:33:01.000 It's coming next week.
00:33:02.000 Look, I have no problem if an audit actually happens.
00:33:06.000 and they find evidence of something, by all means, please bring it out.
00:33:10.000 But to me, it is just insane that this line of thinking destroys the ability of Republicans to win.
00:33:16.000 And after a year and a half of constant talk, there's been literally nothing.
00:33:22.000 What you just said, if an audit actually happens, it hasn't actually happened.
00:33:26.000 So the Arizona thing with all the color coordination and the big tables and the millions of dollars
00:33:30.000 wasn't an audit.
00:33:31.000 I don't know what it was.
00:33:33.000 I think, look, I think Trump supporters have wishful thinking, that they can't believe
00:33:38.000 that outside their bubble, people hated Donald Trump.
00:33:41.000 Like they haven't gone to a city and seen Trump derangement syndrome.
00:33:45.000 I've seen Trump derangement syndrome to such a degree, I can genuinely believe that, as I said to Steve Bannon,
00:33:51.000 when I see a guy...
00:33:52.000 that has never uttered the word politics in his life, filmed himself holding his mail-in ballot and walked to a mailbox while saying, it's time to do what's right and vote.
00:34:00.000 And I'm like, this guy doesn't know who Ruth Bader Ginsburg is.
00:34:03.000 He doesn't even know what the phrase Supreme Court justice means.
00:34:06.000 And somehow he went out and voted.
00:34:08.000 I'll tell you why.
00:34:09.000 They dumped tons of sand into the skate park so he couldn't skate anymore.
00:34:13.000 And when he showed up, they said, it's because Donald Trump failed to address the pandemic.
00:34:19.000 When every facet of your life is shut down and the media tells you it's Trump's fault, there's nothing left to do.
00:34:26.000 People are bored.
00:34:27.000 They have nothing.
00:34:28.000 How was it in California when they dumped the sand into the pits out there?
00:34:34.000 Everybody knew that was Newsom doing that.
00:34:37.000 But people, when they go and they look to the TV, and obviously I'm speaking in generalize and I say everybody, obviously the people who hate Newsom, they're Republicans.
00:34:44.000 Republicans weren't going to blame Trump for this.
00:34:46.000 But my normie friends who have no idea what's going on, they don't know who Newsom is.
00:34:51.000 They've never heard the word Newsom before.
00:34:53.000 They turn on the TV and they're like, because of Donald Trump, the pandemic is worse.
00:34:56.000 And they're going, dude, I just want to escape, man.
00:34:59.000 And then along come the Democrats knocking on the door being like, Well, then you better go vote for Biden, because if Trump stays in, you're never skating again.
00:35:06.000 And they film themselves doing this stuff.
00:35:08.000 Well, hell, that's more defeatist than me saying the cheating.
00:35:12.000 If everybody's that stupid, then there really is no hope.
00:35:16.000 Well, there is.
00:35:16.000 It is.
00:35:17.000 like this. It is telling people to go and tell their friends. It is telling their telling people
00:35:22.000 to go and share as many videos as possible. It's telling people to engage in polite discourse and
00:35:26.000 be careful about how you address people who are in the cult.
00:35:29.000 And it's about telling people definitively Trump won the first time in 2016 because they
00:35:34.000 were arrogant and they were laughing about how Trump could never win. And then he did. And then
00:35:39.000 they went nuts in the other direction, saying Trump will win. Trump will win. And then they were
00:35:44.000 able, they managed to get these votes.
00:35:46.000 I don't think Joe Biden mustered the votes.
00:35:49.000 I think Donald Trump got votes against him.
00:35:51.000 I think Donald Trump was anti-elected.
00:35:53.000 I think what happens is you take away movies, sports, you take away events.
00:35:58.000 Every major venue was shut down.
00:36:00.000 For me, all the skateboard companies were like, all everything's closed.
00:36:05.000 Businesses were destroyed.
00:36:06.000 And what do they do?
00:36:07.000 They turn on MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CNN, who all say one thing, it's Trump's fault.
00:36:14.000 You have to imagine that will work.
00:36:16.000 And if that messaging is happening and we're moving, we're moving.
00:36:20.000 We immediately went from that into the special election in Georgia.
00:36:23.000 They even showed on like CNN, a guy outside a voting, a voting station, polling station
00:36:29.000 saying, I'm not going to vote because they cheated anyway.
00:36:33.000 And then I'm like, there it is.
00:36:35.000 Thanks to this narrative, you've just suppressed your own vote.
00:36:39.000 And sure enough, Democrats got 50-50 in the Senate.
00:36:42.000 I think there's nefarious BS that happens at the highest level of politics.
00:36:47.000 I think these people play dirty games all day and night.
00:36:49.000 I think there's trading tit-for-tat for rule changes.
00:36:52.000 The Pennsylvania Republicans did a deal with the Democrats to implement universal mail-in voting because they thought eliminating the down-ballot vote would benefit Republicans, not realizing universal mail-in voting would basically destroy their chances of winning.
00:37:05.000 Either because they hated Trump, they wanted to cut a deal, or they were just really dumb.
00:37:08.000 But that literally happened.
00:37:10.000 Democrats won in Pennsylvania because of universal mail-in voting, because Republicans in October of 2019 agreed to it.
00:37:18.000 Through a formal process, it was challenged.
00:37:20.000 The Supreme Court of Pennsylvania recently upheld the constitutionality, which I think is wrong.
00:37:25.000 You can argue their ruling was incorrect.
00:37:27.000 You can argue that's cheating.
00:37:28.000 I hear you.
00:37:29.000 But I just think it's important to clarify because we're three months out from the November midterm election and I am really, really trying to make sure that everybody has the full charge, storm into battle mentality of getting all of their friends going out and proving that they can win.
00:37:46.000 Do you think there's a significant part of the Republican Party that is part of the swamp that hates Trump?
00:37:53.000 I think that's most of them.
00:37:54.000 That's most of them.
00:37:55.000 Most of them.
00:37:56.000 That's right.
00:37:56.000 So that's why some of the Republicans have agreed to some of the things that you're talking about.
00:38:01.000 But I think it's important to clarify what cheating is.
00:38:04.000 Right, because there are people who think they're servers in Venezuela.
00:38:07.000 There are people who think that the ballots weren't real ballots in the first place, like they came from China and things like that.
00:38:12.000 And that was the big narrative after the election, the narrative.
00:38:15.000 So, you know, clarifying what it means.
00:38:17.000 When Time magazine published an article called The Shadow Campaign, To save the election and they literally call it a conspiracy.
00:38:25.000 I'm like, okay, if you want to say it's rigged because of the Time magazine article, I get it for sure.
00:38:31.000 But I think it's important to say that there are establishment policies and procedures that negatively impact the populist left and right chances for winning.
00:38:40.000 I think that powerful elites in both parties desperately want to stop Trump and they're cutting deals to change policy and procedure.
00:38:48.000 That negatively impact the chance for Trump supporters to get in and then you take a look at the what's been going on and I think right now in the past several months with the primaries with the Trump America first candidates winning across the board.
00:39:05.000 Like, I think this shows, outright, you can win.
00:39:08.000 That you should not be holding onto these ideas of they're gonna cheat or whatever.
00:39:13.000 It's like, whatever is gonna happen, you just need to get all of your friends and go vote.
00:39:17.000 Whatever you think can happen.
00:39:19.000 But I just want to stress, I think, the fact that we just saw Carrie Lake win.
00:39:22.000 And it was a nail-biter because, you know, at night she was down and I was like...
00:39:26.000 Come on.
00:39:27.000 And then she wins, sweeping the entire state.
00:39:29.000 It's no surprise Maricopa was almost going the other direction because it's very urban liberal.
00:39:34.000 It's very, you know, Democrat leaning.
00:39:36.000 But she ends up sweeping across the board.
00:39:37.000 Joe Kent wins.
00:39:39.000 All of these Trump MAGA candidates are winning.
00:39:41.000 If the party really had the power to stop them, these guys would not be winning.
00:39:45.000 If Trump could win in the first place, then it proves he can win.
00:39:49.000 And I'll stress it again.
00:39:51.000 They are trying to, it appears, indict Donald Trump because they can't stop him from winning.
00:39:56.000 So, I'll leave it at that, because I don't want to just keep ranting.
00:39:59.000 Every time someone comes up with this, it's like we have to go into a full tirade explaining my views on this, but it's primarily because November, the election is less than three months away, and everybody needs to have in their hearts, you can win.
00:40:17.000 I do not believe it is I don't believe that narrative.
00:40:23.000 Well, I hope you're right.
00:40:25.000 I don't agree with you, but I hope you're right.
00:40:27.000 Gary Lake just won.
00:40:29.000 No, that's great.
00:40:30.000 The problem, like it's not going to stop me from voting.
00:40:32.000 I'm still going to vote is when that there's a corporation called Dominion or whatever you want to call these different corporations that tally the votes on their mechanical, on their digital machines behind the scenes.
00:40:41.000 The problem that people make is when they come out and they say they cheated because you don't know they're doing it in secret.
00:40:46.000 So you don't know if they're cheating or if they're working honestly.
00:40:50.000 The problem for me is the not knowing.
00:40:52.000 I think that that needs to be transparent so we can verify whether it was accurate or inaccurate.
00:40:56.000 I agree.
00:40:58.000 I think this is the most important point.
00:40:59.000 Dominion should not be, our voting machines should be all open source publicly available.
00:41:04.000 Ian is 100% correct.
00:41:04.000 And why aren't they?
00:41:06.000 Well that's a rabbit hole that we could definitely ponder on.
00:41:09.000 It's the favorite topic for Ian.
00:41:11.000 It's crazy to think, good question.
00:41:14.000 But it's the most important thing said of anything pertaining to any of this.
00:41:18.000 At the end of the day, regardless of what you think about the election, what needs to happen is we need to have sweeping reform on our election systems that if we're going to go electronic, the source code has to be publicly viewable and very easily accessible.
00:41:31.000 And even then, let's be real, who's going to understand the source code?
00:41:34.000 But this means everyone will be allowed so there's equal playing field.
00:41:39.000 Every political party can hire their tech specialist to review it.
00:41:43.000 That's what needs to happen.
00:41:44.000 Or paper ballots.
00:41:45.000 But with the entire Democrat party and half the Republican party opposed to that, how do you think that's ever going to happen?
00:41:51.000 I mean, I think that the Republican Party knows their base likes Trump.
00:41:57.000 I mean, it's impossible.
00:41:57.000 Think about Wyoming's coming up this week.
00:41:59.000 Liz Cheney is trailing Harriet Hageman like there's no tomorrow.
00:42:03.000 I mean, like there is no recovering from that.
00:42:06.000 I mean, it would really take a very serious landslide.
00:42:09.000 Even with there are like rumors that there'll be Democrats who will vote in their primary.
00:42:15.000 It's not enough.
00:42:15.000 It's a Republican held state.
00:42:17.000 I think that even though there are parts of the party that don't support Trump, they have seen the tides turn.
00:42:25.000 I mean it's almost impossible to deny that Trump's popularity is solid and they risk their own seats by trying to ally themselves with the narrative that's losing with their voters.
00:42:37.000 Wyoming is the number one Trump-supporting state.
00:42:40.000 So I don't even know if they have enough Democrats to actually swing this election.
00:42:44.000 They do not!
00:42:46.000 But there was a poll showing Democrats were planning on voting for Liz Cheney.
00:42:52.000 From the University of Wyoming, yeah.
00:42:53.000 I think what we need to realize about our election system is that the whole thing, elections are not as simple as someone walks up, signs a ballot, hands it in, and then we cross our fingers we got the votes.
00:43:04.000 This is not high school.
00:43:06.000 There are backroom deals, there's gerrymandering, there's parliamentarianism, there's a whole bunch of stuff that goes into this.
00:43:12.000 The redistricting of states, it's like, hey, elections have consequences.
00:43:18.000 Based on the census, which they admit they get wrong.
00:43:20.000 I mean, it's just crazy.
00:43:21.000 So the reality of it is when in Pennsylvania is the best example they changed the voting law to implement universal mail-in voting seemingly in violation of their own constitution and we had Sean Parnell on talking about this that They actually, initially, they changed the language of the bill they were going to introduce because they realized it violated the Constitution.
00:43:44.000 A lower court actually agreed with them and said, we think this will be found, you know, sustained on the merits, and then ultimately got thrown out for standing just before 2020.
00:43:52.000 Then it was found earlier this year to be unconstitutional.
00:43:57.000 The voting system, universal mail-in voting in Pennsylvania, was deemed by a lower court unconstitutional.
00:44:01.000 The Supreme Court of Pennsylvania, I believe it was the Supreme Court, just upheld it as constitutional, saying nothing in the Pennsylvania Constitution forbids universal mail-in voting.
00:44:11.000 That's an argument to make in court.
00:44:13.000 The Constitution says absentee ballots must be for these reasons, and their argument is mail-in voting and absentee are not the same thing.
00:44:20.000 Okay, well that's ridiculous.
00:44:23.000 But this went through a legal process and now we've got a very serious problem in this country as it pertains to Pennsylvania, but that finally made it through.
00:44:31.000 It's going to be interesting.
00:44:32.000 I think one thing that needs to happen is Republicans need to realize it's an uphill battle with mail-in voting.
00:44:38.000 And if that's the case, y'all better start driving to all of your friends' houses as soon as early voting starts, because the Democrats... This is what I try to explain to people.
00:44:50.000 In one unit in Manhattan, you might have 1,000 voters.
00:44:55.000 One building.
00:44:57.000 And two people can knock on all of those doors in a day.
00:45:00.000 And they knock on the door, and there's an answer, and they say, you got your mail-in ballot, it's right there, why don't you fill it out?
00:45:05.000 All you gotta do is put it right here in the mailbox by your door, and the mailman will come take it.
00:45:09.000 Or, you just throw it under your floor, or drop it downstairs in your mailbox, mailman will come and take it, you don't gotta do anything.
00:45:14.000 That works.
00:45:15.000 If a Republican wants to do that, they gotta drive in a rural area, what, you know, a quarter of a mile, every house they go to, to get one or two voters.
00:45:23.000 So this is why I think universal mail-in voting was entirely negotiated by Democrats to benefit themselves.
00:45:30.000 You can argue the Republicans in Pennsylvania sold out Trump because they hated him, but they got a deal too.
00:45:36.000 They had that down ballot thing where people in Pennsylvania could just vote down.
00:45:39.000 But let's advance from this topic so I don't just beat a dead horse.
00:45:43.000 Because we do have this story from the South China Morning Post.
00:45:46.000 Civil War and dirty bombs.
00:45:49.000 FBI and U.S.
00:45:50.000 Department of Homeland Security on alert for threats after raid on Trump home.
00:45:54.000 U.S.
00:45:55.000 law enforcement agencies prepare for potentially violent fallout from FBI raid on Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago home.
00:46:01.000 FBI and DHS identify multiple articulated threats and calls for the targeted killing of judicial, law enforcement, and government officials.
00:46:09.000 Yo, there's another story from Axios that goes along with it that I don't even know if I can start getting into because the language used by this guy is so egregious.
00:46:20.000 Pennsylvania man arrested for threatening to slaughter FBI.
00:46:23.000 This is... What?
00:46:24.000 It's... I don't know.
00:46:25.000 You guys ready to drink civil war?
00:46:26.000 Oh my.
00:46:28.000 So I said it the first time in the title of the South China Morning Post article, but I'll tell you this.
00:46:32.000 While the FBI is claiming there are these very real threats and that they're concerned about them, Jane's Revenge has admitted to engaging in terrorism.
00:46:42.000 They've taken credit for this.
00:46:43.000 And where's the FBI?
00:46:45.000 I'll tell you where it is.
00:46:45.000 No, it's just Marjorie Taylor Greene trying to get them declared a domestic terrorist organization.
00:46:50.000 I mean, the FBI is not...
00:46:51.000 Just, it's literally her!
00:46:52.000 I mean, I'm sure she has support in Congress, but like, no one is taking action against James Revend.
00:46:56.000 Remember when, like, when you're reading the headline, they're like, they're threatening government officials.
00:47:01.000 Do you remember when that guy showed up at Brett Kavanaugh's house?
00:47:04.000 I mean, they're acting like, you know, violence is one-sided, which it really is not in this country.
00:47:10.000 And obviously, I think most threats come from extremists that don't represent the majority of people on either side of the spectrum, but This is very bizarre, but we forget that it's double-sided.
00:47:22.000 I think it's actually simple.
00:47:24.000 If you're the FBI and you're raiding Donald Trump, the right is very mad at you.
00:47:29.000 If you're the FBI and you're investigating Trump for Russiagate, the right is very mad at you.
00:47:34.000 And so imagine you're sitting in your chair and you're, you know, reading the news and all of a sudden Antifa is just screaming, they hate you, you're evil, you're corrupt.
00:47:43.000 And then people on the right are not really saying a whole lot.
00:47:45.000 You'd be like, man, these guys are crazy over here.
00:47:47.000 They won't stop talking about how they want to do evil stuff.
00:47:50.000 This is what the FBI is basically doing.
00:47:52.000 For one, I mean this is an example of their overt political bias.
00:47:56.000 They engage in weaponized politicking, going after Trump for Russiagate, clearly fake.
00:48:01.000 The FBI, Kevin Kleinsmith I believe his name was, altered an email fabricating evidence to justify spying on the Trump campaign.
00:48:09.000 Then, Trump supporters get mad at the FBI, say you're all corrupt.
00:48:13.000 Then a bunch of other FBI agents, who are not involved and don't know that this corruption is occurring, just think the Trump supporters are crazy, because, hey, I didn't do anything wrong.
00:48:22.000 Then the FBI starts pointing at the people who are pointing at them, and they're completely ignoring Antifa on the far left.
00:48:27.000 And, cherry on top, they're getting all their news from the corporate press, who's been actively defending, you know, Antifa on the left, to a great degree.
00:48:35.000 Not all the time, but to a great degree.
00:48:37.000 So, it's not so much, I would say, that you need to be concerned about a conspiracy, but an emergent phenomenon where these are the things that are causing the FBI to be inflamed.
00:48:47.000 Like, to target Trump supporters on the right.
00:48:50.000 Well, they've drummed out over the years, they've gotten rid of the people in the FBI that were there, that were not willing to do this kind of thing, to demonize people that support Trump.
00:49:04.000 This is part of just demonizing anybody that disagrees with the powers that be.
00:49:09.000 That's what they've been doing since January 6th.
00:49:13.000 That's why they've been terrorizing American citizens who just went to Washington on January 6th and waved flags.
00:49:20.000 And that's why when you have an actual person who is camped outside of Brett Kavanaugh's house, And it's going to kill him.
00:49:28.000 That mentioned for a couple of days, but then they make these sweeping pronouncements about all these threats.
00:49:33.000 It's the same thing as when they declared all the parents that went to school board meetings as potential domestic terrorists.
00:49:41.000 Everybody that disagrees with the weaponized FBI, with the government's The FBI has become our Stasi now.
00:49:52.000 They are just investigating people who they consider to be enemies of the administration, enemies of the government, people who disagree.
00:50:01.000 Why do you think they're just not going after Jane's Revenge or the left?
00:50:06.000 I mean, maybe they are, they just don't care.
00:50:08.000 They absolutely don't care.
00:50:12.000 They agree with Jane's Revenge.
00:50:13.000 They're not going to investigate them, just like the BLM and Antifa riots in 2020 and 2021.
00:50:20.000 They didn't treat those people the way they're treating the January 6th people.
00:50:24.000 So we've talked about something a bit in the past couple of weeks, that if Joe Biden were to pardon all of the January 6 people, that his popularity would spike.
00:50:34.000 Democrats would start cheering and clapping about how gracious they are.
00:50:38.000 And Trump supporters wouldn't have much to say other than, well, that was the right thing to do.
00:50:41.000 Thank you for doing it.
00:50:44.000 They can't do that.
00:50:45.000 The Biden would never, ever do that.
00:50:47.000 And I don't think his Democrat base would cheer that.
00:50:49.000 They would be furious.
00:50:51.000 I disagree.
00:50:53.000 They don't care for moral logic.
00:50:56.000 They care for winning.
00:50:58.000 And if Joe Biden does something, they'll say, we are good people.
00:51:01.000 While Donald Trump was chanting, lock him up, we are doing the right thing and reaching out an olive branch because we are honorable.
00:51:07.000 That's of course what they would do.
00:51:08.000 I don't think so.
00:51:10.000 I don't think you understand how deeply they hate people like me.
00:51:14.000 I do, but I think they care more about, they wouldn't want to claim defeat.
00:51:20.000 If Joe Biden came out and said, look, tensions have gotten way beyond our control in this country.
00:51:26.000 We need a sign of good faith.
00:51:28.000 And then he says something like, what these men, these people did on January 6th, it was wrong.
00:51:32.000 However, the continued prosecution is only ripping this country apart and we need to find a path towards clemency.
00:51:39.000 And, you know, commutation for these individuals so that we can learn to heal as a nation.
00:51:43.000 I think the left would absolutely have no choice, the Democrats, but to agree with Biden.
00:51:48.000 Otherwise they'd be claiming defeat and they're not going to do that.
00:51:50.000 They're not going to admit they're wrong.
00:51:51.000 They're going to say, see, we were the good guys the whole time.
00:51:55.000 It's Trump who's bad and we're honorable.
00:51:58.000 And then Trump supporters could only say, well, that was the right thing to do.
00:52:02.000 Thank you, Joe Biden.
00:52:03.000 Some might be like, it's political, it's a political move, but it would be such a tremendous and gracious move.
00:52:08.000 You'd have no choice but to be like, oh, okay, all right, you know?
00:52:11.000 That's the most outlandish alternate universe I've ever heard of.
00:52:16.000 You think the Democrats would be angry?
00:52:18.000 Absolutely.
00:52:19.000 They're bloodthirsty.
00:52:20.000 They want everybody in jail.
00:52:22.000 They want everybody that went to Washington on January 6th in jail forever.
00:52:27.000 I agree, but my point is that when faced with having to admit that their guy betrayed what they truly wanted, they're more about virtue signaling.
00:52:36.000 They wouldn't throw Biden under the bus.
00:52:37.000 Biden is implementing policy that's damaging to our energy sector, and they claim the opposite.
00:52:44.000 It's like Biden Yeah.
00:52:46.000 Literally is enacting policy that causes gas prices to go up and they come out and they say Biden can't control gas
00:52:52.000 prices Then when it comes down, they're like Biden did that
00:52:54.000 There's no moral consistency. Whatever Biden does is good and they were right and just so that's why you know
00:53:01.000 I look and look I'm not I'm not I'm not trying to argue that it's absolutely true
00:53:05.000 I'm just trying to get your thoughts on it Yeah, because you know one of the things that we were
00:53:09.000 bringing up is how do we de-escalate tensions?
00:53:12.000 Is that one of the ways we do it?
00:53:13.000 Right?
00:53:14.000 Biden coming out and just being like, the only way to simmer things down is to pardon these guys.
00:53:19.000 Well, he's never going to do that.
00:53:20.000 But yeah, I agree with you that if he did, that might work.
00:53:24.000 But I don't see that.
00:53:25.000 I don't see anything like that happening.
00:53:27.000 Sometimes I think if he were to do that, it's the only way the Democrats would admit that he is like in early stages of dementia or maybe not early stages.
00:53:34.000 Because then they would be like, see, he's really not in a position to be doing this.
00:53:38.000 Like, I think you're right.
00:53:40.000 It would be extremely difficult for a huge section of the Democratic Party to justify this to themselves.
00:53:45.000 I think Tim's right.
00:53:46.000 There would be some who would be like, well, Because of this illogical twisting of argument, then this is why it makes sense to do that, but I do think that there would be enough who would say, you know, no, he should only be pardoning, you know, African-American men who have done this, like, to pardon a majority white crowd that went to this, you know, like, it would be, it would be really against narrative and upstream, and that's where I think they would be like, well, I mean, like, if he had done it his first day in office,
00:54:13.000 Maybe?
00:54:14.000 Because they had enough, they know he's going to be in office for a little while, but he's halfway through, almost halfway through at this point.
00:54:20.000 We can all kind of tell things are not right.
00:54:21.000 We do not expect him to run again.
00:54:23.000 If he were to pardon all the January 6th prisoners, which of course I wish he would, he would probably just get, well, it's time for Biden to retire.
00:54:33.000 We didn't really want him here anyways.
00:54:35.000 And how do you get from the worst attack on our nation's democracy since the Civil War to, I'm just going to pardon everybody?
00:54:41.000 It's COVID.
00:54:43.000 I mean, we got to acknowledge that COVID caused massive strain and stress on people's psychology.
00:54:47.000 It's not just shutting down what happened as a result of COVID and the response to COVID, but the COVID virus, when I had it, I was angry, man, and I was stressed out.
00:54:56.000 Tim and me got into it one day.
00:54:58.000 We were yelling.
00:54:59.000 It causes people to feel like crap and to get mad.
00:55:03.000 So many people went nuts over the last two and a half years.
00:55:06.000 Pardon all those people that were smashing up buildings in the summer of 2020.
00:55:09.000 Pardon them.
00:55:10.000 Pardon Hillary Clinton.
00:55:11.000 Pardon James Clapper for lying under oath.
00:55:13.000 Pardon the people that are sitting in solitary.
00:55:16.000 We need to scrub clean the last 200 years of insanity that we've declared on ourselves.
00:55:22.000 The slaveholders?
00:55:23.000 Pardon them all, man.
00:55:24.000 Pardon all the runaway slaves.
00:55:25.000 Pardon them all.
00:55:26.000 Ian, like Wendy's?
00:55:27.000 Stop this stuff.
00:55:28.000 That's right.
00:55:28.000 You snap your fingers like Thanos.
00:55:33.000 Pardoning people after that, though?
00:55:34.000 Like, I understand the instinct to want to be like, let's just start over, but I think that, like, the memories of everything that's happened runs too deep.
00:55:41.000 You wouldn't actually give people a sense of justice or satisfaction.
00:55:44.000 It would just be like, we're making the score zero except we all secretly know it's not zero.
00:55:48.000 I don't think Abe Lincoln thought he was doing what was politically correct when he freed the slaves.
00:55:54.000 He just knew it had to happen.
00:55:55.000 He said anything to keep the Union together.
00:55:57.000 He wouldn't have pardoned the slaves if he could have kept the Union together.
00:55:59.000 It wasn't about morality for him.
00:56:02.000 It was about preserving the sovereignty of the nation.
00:56:04.000 And the economy, basically.
00:56:05.000 And it was also about destabilizing the South, because the Emancipation Proclamation was basically saying to all of the slaves, which were in Southern states because the North states were free, Rise up against the government there.
00:56:21.000 It was weaponization, if anything.
00:56:23.000 I mean, look, Abraham Lincoln got in.
00:56:27.000 The Civil War had technically already begun.
00:56:28.000 Bleeding cancer was going on.
00:56:29.000 Several states had already seceded.
00:56:31.000 And so he waited several years to actually... Yeah, the Free the Slaves thing wasn't a Civil War.
00:56:36.000 It was like the Civil War was going to happen anyway.
00:56:38.000 And then he saw it as an opportunity to do what he thought was right.
00:56:41.000 I think you're wrong about that.
00:56:42.000 And he took a bullet for it.
00:56:43.000 I mean...
00:56:44.000 It wasn't like free the slaves and then the Civil War started.
00:56:47.000 It was like years later that they decided to free the slaves.
00:56:49.000 Right, right, right.
00:56:50.000 So Abraham Lincoln... Your argument is that he maybe wanted more troops and he wanted southern slaves to fight on the side of the North?
00:56:55.000 It was about destabilization.
00:56:57.000 It's partly about destabilization.
00:56:59.000 It might have been.
00:56:59.000 I mean, Abraham Lincoln was a deeply racist individual.
00:57:02.000 Like, read the history of Abraham Lincoln.
00:57:04.000 Read about Liberia and the letters that Abraham Lincoln wrote.
00:57:09.000 But this shouldn't be surprising anybody.
00:57:10.000 I'm not trying to impugn the honor of Abraham Lincoln.
00:57:12.000 I'm just pointing out back then, like, literally everybody was racist.
00:57:16.000 And so people like to look back and base past history and morality on modern sensibilities, which is just not correct.
00:57:23.000 Yeah.
00:57:23.000 Right?
00:57:24.000 Abraham Lincoln did not want to be the president during the collapse of the United States.
00:57:31.000 And so it was very political.
00:57:32.000 I mean, the dude suspended habeas corpus up through a corridor from DC through Maryland to Pennsylvania, where they were just arresting people without charge and holding them indefinitely.
00:57:42.000 This is not a guy who believes in freedom and doing right.
00:57:44.000 It's a guy who believed in winning by any means necessary.
00:57:47.000 I think the slavery thing was like a moral thing for him.
00:57:50.000 No, he said if I could have kept the union together without freeing slaves, I would have done it.
00:57:55.000 I mean, he was completely dedicated to keeping the union as a nation.
00:57:59.000 I think we're taught that in school that it is about slavery and it's about morality because our sensibilities have changed and I think if you were president now, in that time, you would have behaved differently.
00:58:10.000 But for Abraham Lincoln, it wasn't about slavery and I think we're just told to turn a blind eye to that.
00:58:16.000 It was about preserving the union.
00:58:18.000 The economics, yeah.
00:58:19.000 He wanted the money from the South.
00:58:21.000 I think it's complicated.
00:58:22.000 I mean, there's a really great letter Ulysses S. Grant wrote where he said that the Union sacrificed blood and treasure to admit these states into the Union, and they swore an oath.
00:58:33.000 By seceding, they were in violation of their oath and effectively stealing that blood and treasure for, you know, for themselves.
00:58:40.000 So he wrote that anyone, any man has a right to rebel against his government or leaders or authority or whatever.
00:58:49.000 Just know that if you lose, you will have to live under their command and penalty from that point forward.
00:58:57.000 So it's interesting actually reading what these guys wrote about what was going on back then.
00:59:01.000 It's truly crazy stuff.
00:59:02.000 Let me jump to this next story.
00:59:03.000 We'll keep the conversation going.
00:59:05.000 Donald Trump warns terrible things are about to happen to the U.S.
00:59:10.000 This to me actually is more serious than I think a lot of people probably realize on the surface.
00:59:15.000 The former president said that the temperature, because the temperature has to be brought down in this country, he's offering any assistance to the DOJ to try and calm things down.
00:59:27.000 He says if it isn't, terrible things are going to happen.
00:59:30.000 I think Donald Trump realizes when you see the story from Axios about a guy threatening FBI agents, about a guy going to an FBI field office, about, I mean, just the fact that they're going after a president.
00:59:41.000 It's not so much that Trump realizes he's in trouble, that they're coming after him, but people are ready to snap in this country.
00:59:48.000 And the left has long been ready to snap.
00:59:50.000 They've been snapping for a while.
00:59:52.000 And now the right's ready to go out.
00:59:54.000 When Trump says something like this, This creates, in my mind, an image of Trump sitting down at a desk, like, dead serious, more serious than he's ever been, being like, this is bad.
01:00:05.000 This is real bad.
01:00:06.000 And I think when Trump notices it, it's probably worse than we even realize.
01:00:10.000 I have to wonder what his Secret Service detail is telling him, or the things that he might be saying.
01:00:15.000 And, um, I think the left's view of this is probably like, ah, Trump's trying to save his own skin.
01:00:20.000 Yes, he's saying, look, hey, there's a big problem coming for us when what he means is for me.
01:00:26.000 And then people have a tendency to externalize their own fears when they're really in trouble.
01:00:31.000 I don't think that's what it is.
01:00:33.000 I mean, I think he's talking about food shortages.
01:00:36.000 I think he's talking about inflation, that it's all going to get worse, that tensions are high now, but it's going to get much worse.
01:00:44.000 Yeah.
01:00:45.000 And I think that part of it's going to be, Biden's already announced, yeah, we're probably looking at some food shortages.
01:00:51.000 He did that months ago.
01:00:52.000 I mean, it's going to get bad.
01:00:54.000 And then when you start having bread lines in America, you see, you know, I see news reports where all the food banks are now have, you know, 40, 50 percent increase in how many people are lining up for food.
01:01:07.000 I mean, If that starts happening, then you're going to see violence.
01:01:11.000 Do you think that we're the richest country that Earth's ever seen?
01:01:14.000 Have you given up?
01:01:16.000 Do you feel like it's inevitably going to fall apart?
01:01:18.000 I think that there are forces within our government that are making it happen, that want it to happen.
01:01:24.000 They are trying to force a civil war.
01:01:28.000 If you accept the premise, like I do, that the left is literally trying to destroy this country.
01:01:33.000 They hate it.
01:01:33.000 They hate the Constitution.
01:01:35.000 They hate the country it's founded.
01:01:36.000 They've been teaching our children for decades in school that this is a racist, evil country.
01:01:41.000 If you accept the premise that they want to destroy it, what's the quickest way to do that?
01:01:46.000 The quickest way is a civil war.
01:01:48.000 And not only that, the one way to get rid of a constitution.
01:01:51.000 Yeah.
01:01:51.000 So, you can destroy a civil war by eroding, I mean, you can destroy a country by eroding it.
01:01:56.000 The problem is, when you have a constitution, they struggle.
01:01:59.000 You know, a hundred years on, they've been trying to get rid of the Second Amendment, and boy, it's just not really working out all that well, because there's new advancements, new technologies, they keep trying to pass new bills, there's active resistance.
01:02:11.000 If there was no constitution, they'd have banned guns, 1850s, right?
01:02:16.000 1860, right?
01:02:17.000 And the Civil War started.
01:02:18.000 Okay, nobody can have guns but us because we're, you know, but they can.
01:02:21.000 There's one way to get rid of it, and that's having a civil war.
01:02:23.000 So I have to wonder if it's China.
01:02:27.000 As many people speculate, China is influencing this one.
01:02:30.000 And recently on a Russian state TV program, they were talking about, the hosts were talking about a civil war is likely coming to the U.S.
01:02:37.000 because the FBI raided Donald Trump.
01:02:40.000 And one of the hosts said, the only question is, which side do we support with weapons?
01:02:45.000 I think that exemplifies the world.
01:02:48.000 During the American Revolution, France came in with troops and funding because they knew it was basically help for them in their fight with Britain and they knew it was going to be bad for their enemies.
01:02:58.000 During the Civil War, the American Civil War, there was funding coming from external countries to the North and South because there was a bet on who was going to win and your investments were riding on it.
01:03:08.000 The CIA's funding regime changes has been doing it for decades, decades.
01:03:12.000 I cannot imagine that in other countries, that their versions of CIA are not doing that in the United States.
01:03:17.000 In fact, I would guess that they are essentially attempting to create coups within the United States.
01:03:23.000 Probably have been for decades.
01:03:24.000 Yuri Bezmenov talks about this slow change of culture is the way to get a country to change so you don't have to blow anything up.
01:03:33.000 I don't know if it's the CCP.
01:03:35.000 I can't blame China because they're under occupation by the CCP right now.
01:03:39.000 Except for Taiwan.
01:03:40.000 Except for the Republic.
01:03:41.000 The Republic stands in Taiwan at the moment.
01:03:44.000 It would be really cool if like, you know, 50 years we're looking back and like the Republic of China took back over.
01:03:50.000 CCP collapses.
01:03:51.000 That's the path that we're on.
01:03:53.000 You think so?
01:03:53.000 You think Taiwan is eventually going to regain control?
01:03:56.000 The people of China will revolt.
01:03:57.000 They tried in 91, but the CCP mowed down people in Tiananmen Square.
01:04:02.000 I'll get a lot of... I probably will get people responding to me like, Ian, you've got the history all wrong, because I am looking at it through an American lens of media.
01:04:09.000 But I remember seeing the tank driving down the street, the guy waving his hands to be like, hey, I'm a Chinese man.
01:04:15.000 I'm sovereign.
01:04:16.000 You don't live here.
01:04:18.000 You don't control me.
01:04:19.000 And the tanks just like tried to go around him.
01:04:21.000 Then they ran him off.
01:04:22.000 I thought he was just holding the bags.
01:04:23.000 I thought he was just holding bags.
01:04:25.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:04:26.000 And then it was like waving something around like a suitcase or bags or something like that.
01:04:29.000 Yep.
01:04:30.000 So you said that you think it's in the government, like working for the US government, that people have been co-opted by external governance.
01:04:37.000 Enemies, foreign and domestic.
01:04:39.000 Why do you think that?
01:04:40.000 Well, I think that our government has been corrupted, especially the Biden family.
01:04:44.000 I mean, you take a look at all the money that's come out of China to the Biden family, it's come out of Ukraine to the Biden family.
01:04:50.000 I mean, there's serious payoffs there, and they're not the only ones.
01:04:54.000 I mean, a lot of foreign money has flown, has gone to the Clinton family, to Even the Romney family.
01:05:02.000 I mean, there's a lot of corruption here, and a lot of people are protecting their financial interests and are selling out the United States.
01:05:09.000 And you have that combination of, as Yuri Bezmenov – what's his name?
01:05:15.000 Bezmenov?
01:05:15.000 Bezmenov.
01:05:16.000 Bezmenov.
01:05:17.000 Whatever.
01:05:18.000 Yeah, the long march through the institutions.
01:05:20.000 They have corrupted our educational system so that you have generation after generation increasingly hating this country.
01:05:28.000 Have you seen that movie Everything Everywhere All at Once?
01:05:30.000 is really the problem.
01:05:31.000 Yeah.
01:05:32.000 And so it's a combination of all those things.
01:05:35.000 It's not just a foreign enemy and it's not just domestic enemies.
01:05:39.000 It's a combination of everything.
01:05:41.000 Have you seen that movie Everything Everywhere All at Once?
01:05:43.000 Yeah.
01:05:44.000 I really, really liked it.
01:05:45.000 But it kind of feels like, in a sense, the multiverse is collapsing on us right now.
01:05:51.000 Maybe the Large Hadron Collider needs to stop firing up or something.
01:05:54.000 But you've got 1984, Brave New World, Fahrenheit 451, you've got V for Vendetta, you've got Atlas Shrugged, you name it!
01:06:00.000 And they are all getting mashed together all at once.
01:06:03.000 People are commenting right now like, there's not going to be a civil war, it's World War III!
01:06:06.000 And I'm like, yeah, that too!
01:06:08.000 It's just like, all happening.
01:06:09.000 I find it hard not to think about Sri Lanka right now because they just had insane inflation and then their president was like, no, no, I'll step down after people stormed his home and office and then he got on a plane and still hadn't resigned and left the country, got denied entry to Singapore and kept going on.
01:06:25.000 You know, when you wind it up, it's like, we also have high inflation and we also have a president that, or a former president that looks like he's about to be indicted.
01:06:33.000 I mean, the instability is so parallel to countries that I don't think Americans are used to comparing themselves to, as haughty as that sounds.
01:06:41.000 You're saying Sri Lanka is like the dry run?
01:06:44.000 Yeah I mean I think it's hard not to be like you I mean you were just saying like well Trump has a president has a plane he could leave on like it's right there I mean the Sri Lankan president because he was president at the time took a military plane and because he can't be uh indicted or anything while he's a sitting president left with it like it's it sounds crazy this is while people were storming his office his house people were occupying the prime minister's house like it sounds crazy but at the same time you know, that kind of stress and chaos that high inflation
01:07:16.000 brings, we are also feeling it in America. It's just on a micro level in comparison. It doesn't
01:07:21.000 mean that things can't get out of hand in the same way. And we're just not used to being compared
01:07:26.000 to countries that we think we are more stable than. It's that belief that it can't happen here. It
01:07:30.000 can't happen here. We think this all the time. Even though it literally is happening. It's happening.
01:07:37.000 It's fascinating to look at the circumstances in Portland, the various circumstances.
01:07:44.000 I mean the firebombing of the federal building, but worse still is when Aaron Danielson got shot twice in the chest by that BLM guy.
01:07:51.000 So I mean the feds went after that dude.
01:07:54.000 Claimed he had a win for a gun, they ended up killing him.
01:07:57.000 I'm like, that's kind of a crazy story.
01:07:59.000 But you take all the street-level violence and then you add in the big hits.
01:08:05.000 The former president had his home raided by the FBI.
01:08:08.000 His former senior advisor, I believe, Bannon, what was Bannon's position?
01:08:13.000 He was the advisor to the president.
01:08:16.000 Arrested, being charged.
01:08:18.000 Peter Navarro, shackled.
01:08:21.000 These things are, you know, I mentioned this last week, but I'm curious your thoughts, Nick.
01:08:28.000 When we talk to people, or when I read history about some of these other countries where civil war happened or revolution happened, there's like always mass killings and conflict, and they always interview somebody who left, and Nazi Germany always being the easiest example for everybody.
01:08:42.000 Why did, so a Jewish family leaves right before the Nazis rise to power, and why?
01:08:47.000 And they say something like, we saw them dehumanizing and demonizing and thought we better get out of here before it's too late.
01:08:53.000 Then you had many, even Kristallnacht, you know, the mass destruction of these Jewish businesses.
01:09:00.000 People still stayed, you know, despite everything, but people still fled.
01:09:04.000 When I see stuff like the former president being raided, When I see the FBI saying that symbols of American history are extremism, the Betsy Ross flag, the Gonzalez flag, the Gadsden flag, they're telling you your own history is extremism.
01:09:20.000 Like, these are all signs that in any other country, at any other point in history, families were already fleeing, seeking safety in other countries.
01:09:27.000 It's happening now here.
01:09:29.000 I have a friend who told me a story about talking to his niece about what she learns in school.
01:09:34.000 And he said she'd never heard of the U.S.
01:09:36.000 Constitution.
01:09:37.000 She didn't even know what it was.
01:09:39.000 He said, don't you say the Pledge of Allegiance at school anymore?
01:09:42.000 And she said, no, we say a pledge to BLM and Antifa.
01:09:47.000 We say a pledge to diversity and tolerance, inclusion.
01:09:51.000 And they don't say anything about the actual Constitution of the United States and how this country was founded.
01:09:57.000 Is this a private school in California?
01:10:00.000 What is this?
01:10:01.000 It's a school in California.
01:10:02.000 Is it a public school?
01:10:04.000 I'm not sure about that.
01:10:05.000 I got to get this pledge.
01:10:06.000 I want a transcript of this.
01:10:07.000 I know.
01:10:08.000 I've heard of this too.
01:10:09.000 I want to get it.
01:10:10.000 This is the most wild pledge I've ever heard of.
01:10:12.000 No, there's been tons of stories.
01:10:14.000 I think Libs of TikTok had the story where the teacher was like, we have them all pledged to the LGBT flag or whatever.
01:10:19.000 Wasn't it?
01:10:19.000 It was Buttigieg's Husband.
01:10:23.000 Who had a camp where they did that.
01:10:26.000 So you can probably find a video of it.
01:10:30.000 The other thing I was going to say is, you know, the thing about the Trump raid at Mar-a-Lago, it being so galvanizing, to me it was like, I've seen this happening over and over again to private citizens in the United States.
01:10:48.000 That's what my whole movie is about.
01:10:50.000 And a month ago, 6-22 of this year, a woman called me and told me about a raid that happened at her house.
01:10:58.000 This is like 19 months after January 6th.
01:11:02.000 The FBI storms into her ranch.
01:11:05.000 Her and her husband are asleep.
01:11:06.000 It's the middle of the night.
01:11:08.000 They have security on their gate because both her and her husband are security people.
01:11:14.000 They, you know, trained in weaponry and stuff.
01:11:17.000 They provide security and they see people at their gates and she says, this isn't a deer, honey.
01:11:24.000 There's people out there and all of a sudden they just break down the gates.
01:11:28.000 They come barreling down their driveway.
01:11:30.000 SWAT teams, they're, you know, throwing flashbangs at them.
01:11:34.000 Come out of your house with your hands up and they're screaming, where's the warrant?
01:11:38.000 What are you here for?
01:11:40.000 Basically, they terrorized them.
01:11:42.000 They handcuffed them.
01:11:43.000 There's a rental property on their same ranch.
01:11:45.000 They flash-banged that.
01:11:47.000 They said, thank God the person that rented there wasn't home.
01:11:51.000 But they just basically handcuffed this couple out on their lawn, pulled the vehicles around their house so that they couldn't see what they were doing, and went inside for six hours and ransacked their house.
01:12:03.000 And all the time they're saying, what are you here for?
01:12:06.000 Where's the warrant?
01:12:07.000 And they go, we'll show you when we're good and ready, whatever they said.
01:12:10.000 And he finally says, what are you looking for?
01:12:12.000 And he says, we have a picture of you, says this to the husband, we have a picture of you attacking a police officer.
01:12:19.000 on January 6th inside the building.
01:12:21.000 He said, I never went in the building.
01:12:23.000 Show me the picture.
01:12:24.000 He says, no, I will show it to you later.
01:12:25.000 He says, I want to see the picture.
01:12:27.000 And he shows him this blurry picture.
01:12:30.000 He says, that's that could be anybody.
01:12:32.000 That's not me.
01:12:33.000 I didn't.
01:12:33.000 That's not me.
01:12:35.000 And finally, after this is all over, he said, where's the warrant?
01:12:40.000 One last time, and they said, we left it on the couch.
01:12:43.000 And they go in and they look at the warrant, it's on the couch, and it says they were looking for three items.
01:12:48.000 A Trump beanie, a Trump gaiter, and a puffy black coat.
01:12:54.000 Three articles of clothing.
01:12:55.000 Insane.
01:12:55.000 And they terrorize these people in this way.
01:13:00.000 Why do they do that?
01:13:01.000 What is the point of doing that?
01:13:05.000 It's there's no justice involved.
01:13:08.000 Three articles of clothing and fairly common items.
01:13:11.000 Yeah.
01:13:12.000 I mean, that's like I was there.
01:13:15.000 Everybody had a puffy coat and like a Trump hat on.
01:13:20.000 It's so generic, it could have been anyone.
01:13:21.000 This is systematic.
01:13:24.000 This is not just happening to Trump.
01:13:26.000 It's happening to normal people.
01:13:28.000 It's why I've been obsessive lately.
01:13:30.000 Another reason of this pardon, why I think a mass pardon is on the horizon, because it's like this Blackstone's formula, man.
01:13:37.000 It's been echoing in my consciousness.
01:13:39.000 It's better that we let a thousand guilty people go than somebody has to sit in prison that's innocent.
01:13:46.000 I don't know about the, you know, to what extent we could do pardons, because I would not agree with like, you know, Hunter Biden being pardoned or anything like that.
01:13:55.000 But I will say that I think we took a wrong turn when this country decided that we should hand off our responsibility towards personal protection to external governmental agencies.
01:14:05.000 So it used to be the communities were self-policing.
01:14:08.000 The local militia would take care of their local issues.
01:14:11.000 And there was a duly elected sheriff and maybe a deputy.
01:14:14.000 Nowadays, cities all have their own departments where they've monopolies on how to deal with these issues.
01:14:20.000 And depending on how big the city is, it gets worse and worse.
01:14:22.000 For instance, in New York, where you can't have a gun, you can't defend yourself, violating the Constitution and your rights.
01:14:27.000 I think maybe the issue should just ultimately go back to, you know what?
01:14:31.000 If we, you know, we need law enforcement and judicial judicial system for probably property crimes to deal with resolving those things, but in terms of, you know, any other kind of violent crime or robbery.
01:14:46.000 I think 2A takes care of all that stuff.
01:14:49.000 Armed society is a polite society.
01:14:50.000 People should have their right to protect themselves, and we should restore responsibility to the greatest degree we can to the individuals.
01:14:56.000 And so, you know, I'm mentioning that in terms of the pardoning of people perceived as being violent.
01:15:00.000 I'm kind of like, yeah, you know what?
01:15:02.000 If someone is convicted duly and it's proven they've done this beyond a reasonable doubt by a jury of their peers, by all means.
01:15:08.000 You know, they've gone through due process.
01:15:10.000 They can be deprived of their rights and locked up.
01:15:12.000 But for the most part, I'm kind of like, you know, we don't need all these cops.
01:15:15.000 We don't need to be dealing with this, this prison system if people were just armed like Second Amendment prescribes.
01:15:21.000 Yep.
01:15:22.000 Well, you got to protect against vigilantism.
01:15:28.000 Or someone with a gun being like, I thought they were invading my house.
01:15:31.000 I didn't know.
01:15:32.000 Like, that's a big problem.
01:15:33.000 That's property crimes, right?
01:15:36.000 That's why we do need some kind of system.
01:15:38.000 But I think duly elected law enforcement, I'm talking about, we shouldn't be worried about walking down the street.
01:15:42.000 No, we should have local law enforcement as the first gate, for sure.
01:15:48.000 And that should even protect you from federal law enforcement that's gone overboard, or state law enforcement that's just gone overboard as your local law enforcement.
01:15:56.000 And if there are none, then you have to take it on your own shoulders.
01:15:58.000 That's what happened to these people that I was just talking about.
01:16:00.000 They reached out to the sheriff, To say, you know, these people, the FBI, why were you allowing them to violate our rights this way?
01:16:11.000 And the sheriff's job should have been to step in and protect them, but he wouldn't do anything.
01:16:16.000 Why?
01:16:17.000 Well, I don't know.
01:16:18.000 I mean, I guess he was afraid.
01:16:20.000 I don't know why.
01:16:21.000 Did he know about it?
01:16:23.000 He knew about it after the fact, you know, and they asked him for help.
01:16:28.000 Because what happens to these people most of the time is that these break-ins happen, and I've talked to a lot of people that this happened to, The FBI comes and terrorizes them, then breaks down their door and does whatever they do, and then they just never hear from them again.
01:16:43.000 It's like they're sitting there waiting for charges.
01:16:48.000 They hire a lawyer.
01:16:49.000 Charges never come.
01:16:51.000 The lawyer tells them to be quiet.
01:16:52.000 Don't say anything because, you know, we don't know what the FBI is going to do.
01:16:56.000 So it just kind of puts a hush over everything.
01:16:58.000 And these people are just sitting there waiting for the next shoe to drop.
01:17:03.000 The kind of thing where like if they leave the country just on a vacation that they could get charged for as a flight
01:17:08.000 thing.
01:17:08.000 Right. You can't get charged for leaving. That's the thing about Trump's passports too. I think it's a really weird
01:17:13.000 sign.
01:17:13.000 Because you're right, he wasn't charged. Yeah, you can leave. I mean, they'll say, you know, don't leave, but you
01:17:19.000 can't tell you what to do. You can leave.
01:17:20.000 Unless they charge you.
01:17:21.000 I think they say sometimes like when you leave it makes you look more guilty.
01:17:25.000 Like they try to scare you into not going anywhere because they can't tell you not to go.
01:17:29.000 But they say like, well, but in court, it'll make like it'll look like you left the country on this grand conspiracy or
01:17:35.000 whatever.
01:17:36.000 I was gonna ask you if you feel like local law enforcement for the most part feels like they have to see jurisdiction to the federal government.
01:17:42.000 I mean from what I know which is very limited on how law enforcement works Often it becomes, once the federal government has, you know, whether it be, you know, the FBI or whatever, that once they get involved with something, they, you know, have jurisdiction, they are allowed to take the lead on whatever case they want.
01:18:01.000 Often to the detriment, local law enforcement often feels like that hurts some of the cases they're working on.
01:18:06.000 Well, it varies sheriff to sheriff, you know.
01:18:10.000 The sheriff is the local law enforcement that's elected by those people, and you have strong ones and you have weak ones.
01:18:15.000 Do you think if we had more, like, a better understanding of federalism and, like, the individual governments of state, people would feel like they could hold their elected sheriffs accountable to opposing the FBI?
01:18:26.000 Yeah.
01:18:27.000 And a lot of the people who run for sheriff run on that platform.
01:18:30.000 You know, we're going to protect your Second Amendment rights.
01:18:33.000 We're going to make sure that, you know, the federal government can't come in and take your weapons.
01:18:37.000 But then, when it happens, they're intimidated and they don't do anything.
01:18:43.000 Do you think in some ways it's because they, you know, I just think about all the some of the COVID regulations and questions about like if you get money through Medicare or Medicaid you have to enforce the things the federal government has said.
01:18:56.000 I wonder if it works in the same way with law enforcement.
01:18:58.000 They aren't sure what pressure is being going to be put on them so they just don't act at all, you know.
01:19:04.000 Yeah, I'm sure it's like that.
01:19:05.000 It's like the educational system, too.
01:19:08.000 You know, there was so much federal money tied to mask mandates and to vaccine mandates that the school systems, in order to get that federal money, they decided that they have to comply.
01:19:20.000 I mean, this is how we got the drinking age to where it is, right?
01:19:23.000 They held the highway funding hostage until everyone would agree to make it 21.
01:19:27.000 Yeah.
01:19:28.000 Thank God they did that, you know, after I had already had my fun.
01:19:32.000 Where did you grow up?
01:19:34.000 North Carolina.
01:19:34.000 Okay, because North Carolina was one of the last holdouts.
01:19:38.000 Or maybe it was South Carolina, I can't remember the story completely.
01:19:40.000 But I remember them being like, no problem, federalism, we love it, except we aren't going to give you any money for your highways unless you comply.
01:19:48.000 I mean, they got Shanghai into doing exactly what the federal government wants, which I think is how for the most part, You know, so much of this happens.
01:19:55.000 I can only imagine what it's like to be a part of local law enforcement that, you know, worries what kind of funding they're going to get if they say no when they already know, you know, from my understanding, most local law enforcement is understaffed anyways.
01:20:09.000 Yeah.
01:20:10.000 Well, Sheriff Villanova in Los Angeles County is really one of the better ones.
01:20:14.000 He's been doing a really good job at standing up to some of the mask nonsense and all the federal mandates there, but it just varies, you know, place to place.
01:20:25.000 When you were working on your movie, was, like, the role of local law enforcement in the investigation, did it come up a lot?
01:20:31.000 In which?
01:20:32.000 In your movie on January 6th, your documentary.
01:20:35.000 Well, no, because mostly what we wound up focusing on is the stories of people who, you know, were there on January 6th and who didn't really do anything wrong or violent and who subsequently got visited and persecuted and some of whom put in jail.
01:20:51.000 And none of them said, I wish my local sheriff had stepped in?
01:20:54.000 Or did they feel like their state law enforcement didn't have anything to do with it?
01:20:58.000 Well, it all happened so suddenly.
01:21:00.000 These things just come at 5.30 in the morning, 6 in the morning.
01:21:05.000 There's no warning.
01:21:07.000 A lot of these people never have been arrested for anything before in their lives.
01:21:11.000 And in that case, you would expect a phone call.
01:21:14.000 You would expect them to say, we'd like to talk to you.
01:21:16.000 But instead, they just bust in.
01:21:19.000 We do have an update that actually came out just before we started the show.
01:21:23.000 So apologies for not seeing this sooner.
01:21:27.000 This was posted by Kyle Chaney of Politico.
01:21:31.000 The Trump team is publicizing this email, which shows the DOJ obtained three passports, two expired, not one, as Trump said.
01:21:36.000 No, Trump said, oh, okay, Trump said one was expired, and alerted Trump's lawyers.
01:21:40.000 They were recovered by a filter team, which weeds out privileged info.
01:21:43.000 Trump publicized this after DOJ offered them back.
01:21:48.000 Oh, interesting.
01:21:48.000 So, yes, but I don't think that means anything, that last point.
01:21:53.000 Like, Donald Trump learned that they took his passports and then complained, they took my passports?
01:21:57.000 Right.
01:21:58.000 So the email says, Evan Jim, we have learned that the filter agent seized three passports belonging to President Trump, two expired and one being his active diplomatic passport.
01:22:05.000 We are returning them and they will be ready for pickup at WFO at 2 p.m.
01:22:09.000 today.
01:22:09.000 I am traveling, but you can coordinate further with Redacted, copied above, thanks.
01:22:13.000 So it looks like they did take his passports, and it was the accident narrative, I suppose.
01:22:20.000 And Trump was correct when he said they took them.
01:22:23.000 And I don't know why it matters that Trump publicized it after they offered them back.
01:22:28.000 I mean, I feel like they're trying to say, like, he's so petty.
01:22:31.000 They offered to give him back, but it's like, why did they take them in the first place?
01:22:34.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:22:35.000 I don't think that that's fair.
01:22:36.000 I mean, I think you'll, for the rest of the week, we'll see that a lot.
01:22:38.000 Well, they offered to give it back.
01:22:40.000 It's not that big a deal, but it is.
01:22:43.000 It's a huge deal.
01:22:44.000 Yeah.
01:22:45.000 His active diplomatic passport.
01:22:46.000 Are you kidding me?
01:22:47.000 They just, like, stumbled across it.
01:22:48.000 We're like, we don't know what this is, so we'll just take it with us.
01:22:51.000 And it's active?
01:22:52.000 That's what it says.
01:22:53.000 As a former president, can he still use a diplomatic passport?
01:22:55.000 I guess he can, right?
01:22:57.000 Scroll down to the email again.
01:22:58.000 It says active in there, I think.
01:23:00.000 No, it does.
01:23:00.000 It does.
01:23:01.000 But I'm wondering, can a former president use a diplomatic passport?
01:23:03.000 Yeah.
01:23:04.000 I don't know.
01:23:04.000 I mean, he must be able to use it, otherwise it wouldn't be active, is all I can say to that.
01:23:09.000 I think that, like, it must be privileges for a while.
01:23:11.000 I mean, I don't know.
01:23:13.000 I'm not as well-versed in what privileges are extended to the president after he leaves office.
01:23:17.000 I bet it does.
01:23:18.000 Like, what is it?
01:23:19.000 Like, if you're in Congress, you retain your security passes for life or something like that?
01:23:22.000 Is that how it works?
01:23:24.000 I don't know.
01:23:25.000 But there are extensions like that and to a certain extent he's still a political figure of the United States.
01:23:31.000 I mean he still travels quite a bit and is a representation of the country.
01:23:34.000 I can only see that there's some explanation as to why they'd have it.
01:23:39.000 It's such an unprecedented time, you know, it's like he's not being treated like any former president of the United States.
01:23:44.000 He's being treated like a criminal.
01:23:46.000 So yeah, I don't know.
01:23:48.000 This is I was just thinking, our legal system, the main purpose is to protect the innocent.
01:23:53.000 That is why we built it.
01:23:53.000 That's why we have it in place.
01:23:54.000 It is not to find and destroy guilt or evil.
01:23:57.000 It is to protect innocent people.
01:23:59.000 If someone as a byproduct of the protection of the innocent is charged, then that's that happens.
01:24:05.000 But it should be that way.
01:24:08.000 Yes.
01:24:08.000 I don't know if it's always been that way.
01:24:09.000 It cannot function any other way.
01:24:11.000 Otherwise, it becomes a self-persecuting immolation.
01:24:14.000 A lot of it is retribution.
01:24:15.000 That's a problem.
01:24:16.000 That's a problem.
01:24:16.000 That's when societies consume themselves is with retribution.
01:24:19.000 There's 500 people or more in jail in D.C.
01:24:21.000 right now.
01:24:22.000 Most of them have not even been charged.
01:24:24.000 Innocent people, because until they're proven guilty, they are innocent.
01:24:26.000 Right.
01:24:27.000 But they've been holding them for over 18 months.
01:24:30.000 With no charges.
01:24:31.000 No charges.
01:24:32.000 And one of them, I was told by somebody, a friend of his, he's there because he saw something that happened with Roseanne Boylan, one of the women who died on January 6th.
01:24:42.000 He saw what happened there and they don't want him telling what he saw.
01:24:45.000 So he can't write a letter?
01:24:47.000 I don't know.
01:24:48.000 I'm just telling you.
01:24:49.000 I'm just reporting what I was told.
01:24:51.000 I don't know if any of this is true.
01:24:53.000 But you know, it's like you start kind of trying to look for any kind of conspiracy theory, any kind of explanation for why they would hold somebody without charges for 18 months.
01:25:03.000 It doesn't make any sense.
01:25:05.000 There must be some reason.
01:25:07.000 I'm not a fan of the... I was just going to say, it's exactly what they say a lot of law enforcement does to people of color who are held on bad charges and are not fairly treated.
01:25:17.000 It's, you know, it always bothers me that there's no consistency applied.
01:25:21.000 If you believe in criminal justice reform, you should believe in it for everybody.
01:25:24.000 But it's just, this is worth overlooking, I guess.
01:25:27.000 Yeah, moral logic isn't the strong point of the left.
01:25:31.000 That's one of the reasons I'm not a fan of the death penalty, is that often people say it's just retribution.
01:25:35.000 And I'm like, I don't know what is served through retribution, you know.
01:25:39.000 I've seen more than enough movies, comics, anime, you name it, cartoons, where the protagonist explains revenge never makes the pain go away, it never solves the problem.
01:25:52.000 I think it was even Batman explained it one time.
01:25:55.000 So I see these stories and it's just like families, you know, I was told by someone when those families don't get the, you know, the justice of watching the person who, you know, committed the crime being put to death or whatever.
01:26:07.000 I'm like, I don't know if retribution is going to solve anything for us or just an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, you know?
01:26:15.000 I think it's too much trouble.
01:26:17.000 That's why I'm against the death penalty.
01:26:18.000 I'm in favor of exile.
01:26:20.000 I say if you get duly, you know, duly convicted or, you know, through due process or whatever, we have a big island somewhere and we just, there you go.
01:26:28.000 Like you've been excised.
01:26:30.000 Like we're not going to deprive you of your life and liberty, but you've lost all privileges to the society.
01:26:34.000 Well they tried that once, now we've got Australia.
01:26:37.000 Oh no.
01:26:39.000 I think, doesn't like Norway do that?
01:26:40.000 Like one of those Scandinavian countries.
01:26:42.000 Yeah, I think it's Sweden that does it.
01:26:45.000 They have like a specific island and prisoners actually at the end would beg to leave it because they just, they want to eventually reserve.
01:26:53.000 Yeah, they do.
01:26:54.000 Well, of course, they're in jail.
01:26:55.000 Yeah, but it's also like they're allowed to roam free.
01:26:57.000 It's not like incarceration in America where you're like in a cell or anything like that.
01:27:01.000 But it's like Tom Hanks in Castaway.
01:27:03.000 Yeah, I think that's kind of what it ends up feeling like.
01:27:05.000 I mean, in some ways it doesn't.
01:27:06.000 They feel so disconnected from the world.
01:27:08.000 Well, but maybe it's more like Escape from New York because you're on an island with a bunch of other criminals.
01:27:12.000 And the winter comes, that must be.
01:27:14.000 It's not a tropical island up there.
01:27:16.000 I don't know, but like you're saying they would rather be in jail in a cell?
01:27:19.000 I think it's that they're so deprived from society, having been a part of it for so long.
01:27:23.000 I haven't read that article, Time Magazine did an article about this a long time ago, I know we've talked about it before, and I haven't read it in quite some time, so I don't want to misquote it, but I remember there being intervening prisoners who were like, I wish I could leave, I don't want to be here.
01:27:36.000 There are people in Scandinavian countries who want to go to jail because the jails are so nice.
01:27:41.000 Very nice, yeah.
01:27:42.000 Yeah, I remember talking with some people I knew, because I'd been over there several times, and they were saying, like, a lot of young people talk about it.
01:27:49.000 Just go to jail, you know?
01:27:50.000 Because it's comfortable, they take care of you, you have video games, you play music, they'll get you a guitar if you want it.
01:27:54.000 Man, it's like, it's perfect.
01:27:56.000 Yeah.
01:27:56.000 That's a really bad idea.
01:27:58.000 Incentivizing crime by rewarding it.
01:28:00.000 Yeah.
01:28:01.000 I used to know people, I grew up in a rural area but we did have a couple, you know, homeless people who would just come the winter get arrested for some crime where they'd be incarcerated through the winter months because it's really cold where I grew up and then they get released and, you know, for the most part they weren't in, they weren't concerned about building a record because their lives were sort of in turmoil anyways but they got food, shelter, you know, access to electricity during the most dangerous time of the year for the homeless which is the winter.
01:28:28.000 There was that story, I can't remember which jurisdiction wanted to do this, but they wanted to pay criminals.
01:28:34.000 I think California's doing it.
01:28:35.000 California.
01:28:36.000 Are they doing it, or they tried it, or what?
01:28:38.000 They tried it, but I think they ended the program.
01:28:40.000 I think it was just San Francisco that tried this at one point.
01:28:43.000 Yeah, it was like, if you don't commit a crime this month, we'll give you 500 bucks.
01:28:46.000 Or something like that.
01:28:47.000 But if you commit a crime, we'll stop paying you, but not forever.
01:28:50.000 Like, you could then, like, it's like you went into, like, it's like if your parents stopped giving you an allowance for a little while, and you're like, okay, we'll try it again.
01:28:56.000 The problem with that is then the dude is like, I'm about to steal a thousand dollar car.
01:29:00.000 You know, it's a junker, but I could flip it real quick, but then I won't get that 500 bucks, but I will get a thousand dollar car.
01:29:06.000 Opportunity costs.
01:29:07.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:29:09.000 Well, we just need to give them more money.
01:29:11.000 Oh yeah, just make them all millionaires.
01:29:13.000 Then they'll become corporate criminals.
01:29:16.000 But now with a million dollars, I'm going to set up a company that...
01:29:19.000 I think it's like idealistic like they want to think oh well crime only stems from poverty and if we can fix poverty then we can stop crime and for some people that might be the case you know they're stealing because they need to they don't have the resources to get whatever's going on but for the most part that's not actually most motivation for crime and so we aren't really addressing the problem we're doing what we want to believe will solve the problem because of our morals but we lack the understanding it really bothers me a lot of studies of You know uh crimes or men and women in general will exclude men who are in prison and I feel like if we don't understand the people who are committing crimes then we can't really say what will rehabilitate them.
01:30:00.000 We go off of what people who aren't incarcerated think will fix people.
01:30:04.000 I thought Charles Manson was a missed opportunity.
01:30:06.000 Part of me, I really wanted to interview him before he died because he never killed anybody.
01:30:10.000 He just told people, go F it up.
01:30:12.000 And then they went and they killed and they were like, well, you told him you incited it, Charles.
01:30:17.000 And like he was, they were all blasted out on acid at the time.
01:30:19.000 And like.
01:30:20.000 The story is that he told them to go F it up.
01:30:25.000 So they went to the woman's house and they F'd it up alright.
01:30:29.000 They killed like four people or something horrible.
01:30:32.000 But he went to prison for it.
01:30:33.000 You see that Quentin Tarantino movie?
01:30:35.000 Yeah, I thought that Brad Pitt killed him.
01:30:38.000 Yeah, that's what I heard.
01:30:39.000 You would think that.
01:30:40.000 When the aliens watch the stories of our people, they'll be real confused as to who Brad Pitt is.
01:30:47.000 What's fun time in Hollywood? Yeah, I like that movie. I thought it was good. Yeah, who was it?
01:30:53.000 It was Brad Brode was great character. Polanski's wife Sharon Tate was here. Yeah, Bianca house. I think she was
01:31:00.000 pregnant at the time She got killed but so Charles never killed anybody
01:31:03.000 But I think that that was good you could consider that a violent crime inciting someone to go do a violent crime
01:31:07.000 But I need to know the I want to hear the psychology of it.
01:31:11.000 I think that the world deserves to know.
01:31:13.000 And no one in that group committed crimes because they didn't have enough money.
01:31:17.000 Like, you couldn't have offered that group $500 not to commit crimes.
01:31:20.000 Like, that was their whole thing.
01:31:21.000 They were anti the system and they were anti the government and they had their own, you know, cultish worldview.
01:31:28.000 I mean, it wasn't this UBI that I think it was San Francisco offered that wouldn't have stopped this in this cadence.
01:31:33.000 And that's why I really think that, like, we just do ourselves a disservice by trying to Treat people who are in prison like we sort of understand them but also excluding them from a lot of psychological research because we're like oh well it's such a strange it's such a strange environment it's unusual power dynamics are different there but you're creating the system and that's where you're putting people who are incarcerated who then get released and it starts over again.
01:31:53.000 I just thought of something funny So, like, you just said you have to pay him more money, right?
01:31:58.000 Because if he's like, hey, I can steal this $1,000 laptop, I won't get the $500, but I get the laptop.
01:32:03.000 It's worth more, right?
01:32:04.000 And then Ian mentions an opportunity cost, and then I'm like, so they gotta pay the guy more money, right?
01:32:07.000 So then the city comes out and says, all right, fine.
01:32:09.000 How about we give you $4,000?
01:32:10.000 Because you're not gonna be able to steal enough to cover that.
01:32:13.000 And the dude goes, wow, all right.
01:32:15.000 Now he's walking around with, you know, $1,000 a week.
01:32:17.000 Some other guy goes, he's got $1,000.
01:32:20.000 If I rob him, I'll lose my 500.
01:32:22.000 It's fractional reserve.
01:32:23.000 So he's got to pay him more money.
01:32:25.000 Eventually everybody's just flush with cash and the money's worthless.
01:32:28.000 And then they start stealing food.
01:32:30.000 You've seen those interviews with drug addicts who've moved to San Francisco because they get a stipend.
01:32:38.000 They get the money.
01:32:40.000 They have interviews with them where he goes, yeah, that's why I came here.
01:32:42.000 I moved there from Alabama.
01:32:44.000 Well, you know what that does, though?
01:32:46.000 When they do the census, they get more residents, more seats, more constituents.
01:32:50.000 And then what they were doing in Northern California was they were interning the homeless, I think it was.
01:32:56.000 They were putting them in camps they couldn't leave and then seizing their assets.
01:33:02.000 Yep.
01:33:02.000 Nice.
01:33:02.000 They were like, you cannot support yourself.
01:33:04.000 So now we're taking you and any money you'd receive is we're in control of which is insane.
01:33:09.000 I used to be like overwhelmed with compassion that I want to help everybody that would be I'll help them all all of them.
01:33:14.000 And then I'm like, as I'm growing and watching the universe Like some people are, I mean, we're animals.
01:33:21.000 Yeah.
01:33:21.000 They're, they're more animal than human.
01:33:23.000 You could say, I mean, humans are animals, but they're more animal than consciousness or something.
01:33:28.000 I mean, we're all consciousness animals, you know, but some of these people are just like, so this in the, in the carnal, you know, base reality that it's not impossible, but challenging to get through to them.
01:33:42.000 And then I'm just watching it from afar.
01:33:43.000 And I'm like, well, how do you, how do you deal with that?
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01:34:16.000 J-A-E-U-F-M says, maybe Trump should go to Texas and seek asylum from the governor.
01:34:22.000 I don't think that works that way, because it's federal issues.
01:34:25.000 Although maybe New York or whatever.
01:34:28.000 Raymond Stanley Jr.
01:34:29.000 says, what's this Timcast Records I've been hearing about?
01:34:32.000 We are launching music.
01:34:33.000 We have a song coming out in about a week and a half.
01:34:36.000 Week and a half.
01:34:37.000 Are you gonna sing a sample right now?
01:34:38.000 I am not.
01:34:39.000 No.
01:34:40.000 I used to sing on Friday nights on Timcast IRL.
01:34:42.000 Really?
01:34:42.000 We're planning on bringing that back, actually.
01:34:45.000 But we'll see.
01:34:46.000 We've been talking about it for a while.
01:34:47.000 That's why we have this other extra area set up you never see in the back of the room.
01:34:50.000 The room's pretty big.
01:34:51.000 But with the new place that we're building, the steel frames have gone up at Freedomistan.
01:34:56.000 40 feet in the center.
01:34:57.000 It's crazy.
01:34:58.000 We're gonna have a stage and be able to do live shows, so we'll actually be able to have like musical guests on like Friday nights or something.
01:35:05.000 It's gonna be so cool.
01:35:05.000 It's gonna be really amazing.
01:35:06.000 We'll do a commercial and we'll be like, ladies and gentlemen, here's a band!
01:35:09.000 And then everyone claps and then the camera pans over.
01:35:11.000 Nah, I'm just kidding.
01:35:12.000 I hope you keep that the answer.
01:35:14.000 Here's a band!
01:35:15.000 Here's a band!
01:35:15.000 It'll be like Stephen Colbert and that.
01:35:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:35:18.000 Like a nightly show?
01:35:19.000 No, we wouldn't do it like that.
01:35:20.000 We would do like Friday, you know, we used to do at the end of Friday night, we would play some songs.
01:35:25.000 And we're planning on bringing that back.
01:35:26.000 And we're also looking at getting a venue in the West Virginia area so that we can actually do Friday night live.
01:35:32.000 The whole event live.
01:35:33.000 Ticket sales extended.
01:35:35.000 This is really cool stuff.
01:35:36.000 Cool.
01:35:37.000 All right.
01:35:38.000 NolegsnoproblemTV says, nostalgia watching Days of Thunder.
01:35:41.000 Saw trooper Nick Cersei delivering strippers to Tom Cruise.
01:35:44.000 This isn't transporting, this is consumption.
01:35:47.000 That was my first movie.
01:35:49.000 Oh wow!
01:35:50.000 How long ago was it?
01:35:52.000 1991.
01:35:52.000 Wow!
01:35:53.000 90, maybe 90.
01:35:55.000 How did it change your world to get that role?
01:35:59.000 You know I just moved down there from New York.
01:36:01.000 I'd been in New York for seven years doing theater and my wife had gotten pregnant and we moved back to North Carolina because we didn't want to have the baby in our fourth floor walk-up and started auditioning for little parts there in North Carolina.
01:36:14.000 And went in and auditioned for Tony Scott.
01:36:18.000 I remember my knees were shaking when I auditioned and I just thought, well, I screwed that up.
01:36:23.000 And then like a month later they called me and they said, yeah, you got that part.
01:36:27.000 You just auditioned once?
01:36:29.000 No callbacks or anything?
01:36:30.000 No callbacks.
01:36:31.000 And so I went in, like the first scene I ever did was with Tom Cruise and Robert Duvall.
01:36:36.000 Wow.
01:36:37.000 That's so cool.
01:36:37.000 Amazing.
01:36:38.000 Wow.
01:36:38.000 And it was kind of, you know, it's a nice scene.
01:36:41.000 It's like, I kind of pulled them over and set them up for this joke.
01:36:44.000 And it's like, I had all the lines.
01:36:47.000 Crazy.
01:36:48.000 It was like my little, my little movie where Tom, Tom and Robert were extras.
01:36:53.000 All right.
01:36:54.000 Slappy McCracken says, Don't forget today is Afghanistan Independence Day.
01:36:57.000 Thank you, Joe Biden.
01:36:59.000 Oh yeah, I think there's a Republican inquiry, isn't there?
01:37:01.000 They're pushing some move to... They're going to release a report.
01:37:04.000 They want to know.
01:37:05.000 They keep calling it a withdrawal.
01:37:06.000 Start calling it a surrender, you guys, but you're on the right track.
01:37:09.000 I think, you know, I agree with you on that, but I kind of feel like, is there a word we can use that's worse than surrender?
01:37:14.000 Yeah.
01:37:15.000 Capitulation.
01:37:16.000 Yeah.
01:37:17.000 Route.
01:37:17.000 But you can have a surrender and a route.
01:37:19.000 I mean, surrender makes sense, but it kind of feels like he intentionally helped the extremists with the abandoning of Bagram Air Force.
01:37:25.000 Desertion.
01:37:27.000 That's called sedition when you help the enemy.
01:37:29.000 No, that's treason.
01:37:30.000 Oh, treason.
01:37:31.000 That's what they call it.
01:37:32.000 Can't you be impeached for treason?
01:37:35.000 Okay.
01:37:35.000 Just wondering.
01:37:37.000 Curious, yeah.
01:37:39.000 All right, let's see.
01:37:39.000 Aaron Cowell says, Nick loved your role in From the Earth to the Moon.
01:37:44.000 Question, how was it playing Deke and being such an interesting story?
01:37:50.000 That was terrific.
01:37:51.000 I got to talk to Bobby Slayton, Deke's widow.
01:37:55.000 Deke was not alive at the time we shot that, but a lot of the astronauts came down.
01:37:59.000 We met like Tim Scott, I mean Dave Scott, and some of the other astronauts, but that was a great time.
01:38:07.000 We shot in Orlando, got to shoot out on Cape Canaveral, and got to work with, I think I met every middle-aged white actor in Hollywood at that time.
01:38:18.000 We were all playing astronauts.
01:38:20.000 I just remembered something because of that, too.
01:38:22.000 I have just secured 340 Life magazines going back to the 50s, to the 70s.
01:38:28.000 And I went to an antique shop out in West Virginia, and they had a few.
01:38:33.000 One of them was the astronauts from the moon landing, and it was a Life magazine with this low-res photo printed on paper magazine.
01:38:42.000 And then I was like, I definitely wanna buy that.
01:38:44.000 There were some newspapers.
01:38:46.000 I got one newspaper, Washington Times.
01:38:47.000 Florida calls it for Bush.
01:38:49.000 Really excited about that one.
01:38:51.000 And then the woman there told me that she had a whole bunch of the Life magazines.
01:38:54.000 Went back 340.
01:38:56.000 It's remarkable reading 1962, like what they were talking about.
01:38:59.000 When the draft started for Vietnam, I got the Life magazine from that.
01:39:03.000 Wow.
01:39:03.000 Super cool stuff.
01:39:04.000 So we've got all of these boxes, like seven or eight boxes of all these magazines.
01:39:09.000 We're gonna sort them out by date.
01:39:11.000 I just think it's fascinating and important and I think we actually want to put together maybe like put my thought process on it was put together a report to look at major historical moments from the lens of their current time based on what we've learned.
01:39:26.000 So, you know, when you go back and start reading about Vietnam in these magazines, they're going to talk about how we were attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin.
01:39:33.000 Now you look at the modern reporting on it, it's like, nope!
01:39:35.000 It's going to be really fascinating to see the differences and disparities between what they were claiming and what ended up being, you know, true, or at least accepted as true.
01:39:45.000 So that's cool stuff.
01:39:46.000 One quick sidebar from the Earth and Moon.
01:39:48.000 The coolest thing that happened was that we got invited to show one episode of the show at the White House.
01:39:54.000 So they flew about six of us in, and we had a screening there with Bill Clinton and Hillary, and I got to shake hands with Bill Clinton, which is a very interesting story, but it's long.
01:40:05.000 Right on.
01:40:06.000 Bad B says, Tim and crew got my mom to listen in LOL to Friday's show.
01:40:11.000 Told her she should tell my sister who listens to you as well.
01:40:14.000 Right on!
01:40:14.000 I appreciate it, man.
01:40:15.000 Thank you very much.
01:40:18.000 Bad B says, Falcon laser book called Troy Rising should be made into that movie you want done.
01:40:26.000 What movie?
01:40:26.000 I don't know.
01:40:27.000 Was that me?
01:40:28.000 What movie?
01:40:28.000 Are you a movie one of them?
01:40:29.000 Laser Book?
01:40:30.000 I don't know.
01:40:31.000 Troy Rising.
01:40:34.000 All right, let's grab a super chat.
01:40:36.000 Scott Turcotte says they live starring Ian directed by Tim Pool and co.
01:40:40.000 Oh, they live too.
01:40:41.000 They're still alive.
01:40:43.000 They're still here.
01:40:44.000 They live is awesome.
01:40:46.000 Roddy Piper.
01:40:47.000 I've never seen it.
01:40:49.000 You know what it is though, right?
01:40:50.000 No.
01:40:50.000 So it's like he finds sunglasses when he puts them on he can see reality.
01:40:53.000 Oh, that's what these could be.
01:40:54.000 We'll find the sunglasses that Rowdy used in the movie.
01:40:57.000 I'll find them and I'll be like, Do you know anything about They Live?
01:41:00.000 a sequel's in the works. That picture we have on the wall of Nancy Pelosi pulling her face off,
01:41:04.000 the last panel is what the aliens looked like. So that's the joke, these youngsters. Do you know
01:41:10.000 anything about They Live? No. So he finds her. This is such a fun thing to learn about. The
01:41:15.000 guy that Rowdy Roddy Piper, the ex WWF wrestler, finds these glasses and when he puts them on he
01:41:20.000 sees like billboards that are normally just billboards.
01:41:23.000 They say things like obey or submit.
01:41:25.000 You may see memes from time to time.
01:41:28.000 I do know this reference.
01:41:29.000 The money says this is your god on it?
01:41:32.000 And then, like, he looks and he looks at, like, one of the aliens and they look back and they're like, I think he can see us.
01:41:37.000 Yeah, like, some of the people turn out to be, like, the NPCs turn out to be aliens or something like that.
01:41:41.000 When did this movie come out?
01:41:42.000 It sounds like a good time.
01:41:43.000 Ace?
01:41:44.000 Yeah.
01:41:45.000 Sorry, guys.
01:41:45.000 It's so good.
01:41:46.000 Rowdy Roddy Piper, man.
01:41:47.000 It's like a ten minute fight scene where they just punch each other.
01:41:49.000 We should have a staff movie night so I can catch up on culture.
01:41:52.000 Yeah, before it gets too cold.
01:41:53.000 After they live, you have to see Hell Comes to Frogtown.
01:41:56.000 That's another great Roddy Piper.
01:41:58.000 Oh, awesome.
01:41:58.000 What was that one about?
01:42:01.000 Roddy Piper is the last fertile man on the face of the earth and the earth has been inhabited by frog people.
01:42:08.000 So he's kidnapped by Sandal Bergman and a group of Amazonian women who are trying to preserve him because his sperm can produce actual human beings instead of frog people.
01:42:21.000 And so the frog people are trying to kidnap Roddy and kill him.
01:42:25.000 What is this called?
01:42:26.000 Hell Comes to Frogtown.
01:42:28.000 It's the best.
01:42:31.000 Tim Cass movie night double feature.
01:42:32.000 Roddy Piper plays Sam Hell.
01:42:35.000 That's his name.
01:42:35.000 Maybe we can do like, this is one of the reasons I want to do a venue, because we could do special events where we like play a movie and then comment and then hang out.
01:42:43.000 Yeah, that'd be super fun.
01:42:44.000 Mystery Science Theater, baby.
01:42:46.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:42:47.000 I think they made a sequel.
01:42:50.000 Did they really?
01:42:51.000 I have like a strong no sequels policy, but that one sounds like it might be worth it.
01:42:55.000 I'm telling you.
01:42:56.000 Alien 2 is good.
01:42:57.000 Fair point.
01:42:57.000 I do think it's comparable.
01:42:58.000 Trump has said has said something terrible is going to happen to this
01:43:02.000 country don't sensationalize you reported earlier Trump said terrible
01:43:05.000 things are going to happen if this country's temperature isn't brought down
01:43:07.000 fair point I do think it's comparable like I think it's a similar statement
01:43:12.000 but I do respect the precision and making sure you you get it correct so I
01:43:16.000 will accept that all right You were right, Nick.
01:43:19.000 Return to Frogtown is the sequel of Hell Comes to Frogtown.
01:43:22.000 Is Rowdy Rowdy in it?
01:43:23.000 Thank you.
01:43:23.000 I don't think Piper... Oh, yeah.
01:43:25.000 No, no, I don't think Rowdy's in it.
01:43:26.000 He's not Piper.
01:43:27.000 Oh, if he's not in it, then he can't be in our triple feature movie night.
01:43:30.000 My wife dances in California with Sandal Bergman, who's the star of Conan the Barbarian and also Hell Comes to Frogtown and all that jazz.
01:43:39.000 She was the lead dancer in all that jazz.
01:43:41.000 Oh, this is a good one.
01:43:42.000 Eli M. says, Tim, with Crowder coming to Charleston, West Virginia, can we expect him to make an appearance?
01:43:46.000 Instead of a civil war, could destabilization be prepping us for a switch to fusion?
01:43:51.000 Oil no longer matters, and neither does the dollar.
01:43:53.000 That's big news.
01:43:54.000 Charleston is very far away.
01:43:55.000 Was it four or five hours?
01:43:56.000 It's six hours away, I thought.
01:43:57.000 Four?
01:43:58.000 But Hannah Clare knows better.
01:43:59.000 I think it's...
01:44:00.000 Well, it's probably five from where we are.
01:44:03.000 So that's not, like, Crowder's not going to be that close.
01:44:06.000 Yeah, so Crowder's actually coming to Baltimore.
01:44:08.000 Oh, yes.
01:44:08.000 He's coming through our range.
01:44:11.000 That's right.
01:44:11.000 He'll be around here.
01:44:12.000 Crowder!
01:44:13.000 We've got to have Crowder around.
01:44:14.000 No one should be able to come to West Virginia without coming to the show.
01:44:16.000 Exactly!
01:44:16.000 At the very least, we've got to show Crowder the studio and invite him to come down.
01:44:21.000 We've got these great little cookies.
01:44:22.000 It's a Step on Snack and Find Out that I ordered.
01:44:24.000 They're really fantastic.
01:44:25.000 They're 130 calories each, so they're nightmarishly bad for you.
01:44:29.000 But the other thing, too, is we reached out to Jimmy Dore.
01:44:32.000 I'm really excited for Jimmy.
01:44:33.000 He'll also be in the area, so maybe we'll be able to coordinate with him as well.
01:44:36.000 Beautiful.
01:44:37.000 Jimmy's great.
01:44:38.000 Yeah, one of the best.
01:44:39.000 Hey, shout out to the guy that mentioned Fusion.
01:44:42.000 They just released an article exclaiming that they have tested and confirmed ignition, which is the first time the system's putting out more energy than is going into it.
01:44:52.000 Although I don't think they were able to keep it on.
01:44:54.000 It's capturing the energy is the challenge.
01:44:56.000 Right.
01:44:57.000 It's giving off so much heat, now they gotta figure out a way to restore, to get the heat to turn it back into electricity to keep the current going.
01:45:04.000 But this is gonna... This is gonna be big.
01:45:07.000 If they can stabilize, normalize, and get fusion out there, it's gonna be nuts.
01:45:14.000 It's gonna be crazy bonkers.
01:45:16.000 Free energy.
01:45:17.000 Not free, but the energy costs will become so insanely cheap that you're not even gonna notice.
01:45:22.000 And the climate change people probably should freak out because what'll happen is there's not gonna be carbon emissions from it, but this energy will ramp up production to such an insane degree.
01:45:33.000 Fusion's legit, man.
01:45:35.000 This is gonna be crazy.
01:45:37.000 The Bahamian Rain Man says, given her status as a moderate Democrat, would it be completely insane for either DeSantis or Trump to pick Tulsi Gabbard as their running mate, or probably even Bernie Sanders?
01:45:47.000 It'd be such a reach across the aisle with an olive branch in hand.
01:45:50.000 I mean, Tulsi just, didn't she just host for Tucker Carlson?
01:45:53.000 Yeah, she did just last Friday.
01:45:55.000 Anything could happen.
01:45:56.000 We can call her a moderate Democrat, but like, you know, Tulsi's in the same camp we are here.
01:46:00.000 As far as the left is concerned, she's far right.
01:46:02.000 You know what I mean?
01:46:03.000 As for Bernie, the World Socialist website called Bernie Sanders a nationalist capitalist.
01:46:09.000 So, you know, there's that.
01:46:10.000 Bernie is old, though.
01:46:12.000 I just want to put that one on the table.
01:46:13.000 He'll be, like, 83 at the next inauguration.
01:46:16.000 Like, maybe he doesn't—maybe he'll just be an advisor.
01:46:20.000 Yeah, he missed his opportunity to go independent in 2016 after the DNC screwed him over.
01:46:25.000 He should have went independent.
01:46:26.000 That was his chance.
01:46:27.000 I don't think he's— There's too much money in it for him to stay put.
01:46:33.000 Alright, Taxi says, from John Tester, DMT intern.
01:46:40.000 Ours losing both Georgia seats in 2020 was worst case scenario.
01:46:44.000 Dem strategists didn't believe reps would F up that badly.
01:46:48.000 I mean, yeah, I didn't think so either.
01:46:50.000 And then this gave the 50-50 to the Democrats, the tiebreaker to Kamala, and now they got the Inflation Reduction Act.
01:46:57.000 The deflation act, can we please?
01:46:59.000 Yeah.
01:46:59.000 Did you see what the, what was it?
01:47:01.000 Who was it?
01:47:01.000 ABC said to Jean-Pierre, whatever, that it was like Orwellian.
01:47:06.000 What is it?
01:47:06.000 He's like, how can you call it the Inflation Reduction Act when they're going to be spending all this money?
01:47:10.000 It's Orwellian.
01:47:11.000 He said something like that.
01:47:12.000 You got to look it up because I didn't, I was reading about it.
01:47:15.000 What was her response?
01:47:16.000 Oh, probably, huh?
01:47:18.000 Yeah.
01:47:18.000 What's Orwellian?
01:47:19.000 How could you say that to me?
01:47:20.000 I don't know what that means.
01:47:22.000 Orwellian?
01:47:23.000 It's not Orwellian because George Orwell didn't write it.
01:47:25.000 Yeah, there you go.
01:47:26.000 Yeah.
01:47:28.000 All right, let's see.
01:47:29.000 Let's grab some Super Chats.
01:47:32.000 She's such a wild press secretary.
01:47:33.000 I don't even know what to make of her.
01:47:35.000 Oh, I was doing a Kamala Harris voice.
01:47:37.000 I'm really excited.
01:47:38.000 I'm really excited for this.
01:47:39.000 Prior Divine says, thank you for having the CEO of Public Square on last week.
01:47:42.000 It helped me feel less alone at the edge of the mind.
01:47:45.000 Available on Amazon now.
01:47:47.000 I heard that you were a culture building.
01:47:48.000 I want to join.
01:47:50.000 No, we did a segment on Publix.
01:47:52.000 Have you heard of Publix Square, Nick?
01:47:53.000 Yeah, Lydia was telling me about it.
01:47:55.000 Yeah, this very topic.
01:47:57.000 What is this strange squeaking?
01:47:58.000 You hear that?
01:47:59.000 Are we being invaded by aliens?
01:48:02.000 Aliens, probably.
01:48:03.000 What is it?
01:48:04.000 Did you do this?
01:48:04.000 Did you bring the aliens here?
01:48:05.000 That was like a weird metallic thing.
01:48:07.000 I don't know what that was.
01:48:08.000 Anyway, Public Square, we did a segment about it.
01:48:11.000 The segment's got 206,559 views.
01:48:11.000 Squeaking yeah, no that was like a weird metallic thing. I don't know what that was
01:48:15.000 Anyway, public square. We did a segment about it the segments got two hundred and six thousand five hundred
01:48:21.000 fifty nine views I told Michael so this is fantastic
01:48:24.000 Public Square is an app where it shows you businesses that believe in American values.
01:48:29.000 So if you're a business, you can sign up and say, I agree with these stated values of the platform.
01:48:34.000 And then it's stuff like the Constitution is good and should be protected, things that we agree with.
01:48:40.000 And then you can go and give your money to people who don't hate you.
01:48:44.000 Absolutely incredible.
01:48:45.000 So when I saw that the segment about it was doing really, really well, that just makes me feel really great because it means more people are going to learn about it.
01:48:51.000 And we've got a bunch of restaurants and businesses around us that are on the app.
01:48:56.000 So I'm like, that's where I'm going from now on.
01:48:57.000 Yeah.
01:48:58.000 And if there's somewhere I have to go, like a hardware store or something, I'll ask them.
01:49:03.000 We got a barbecue joint that they're on the app.
01:49:05.000 Super exciting.
01:49:06.000 It's West Virginia, though.
01:49:07.000 So this whole area is MAGA country.
01:49:08.000 When you're traveling, then it becomes important, I guess.
01:49:11.000 Hollywood needs that app, but there'd only be like two or three things on it.
01:49:14.000 No, it's huge.
01:49:15.000 Yeah.
01:49:16.000 So are you living in Hollywood?
01:49:18.000 Sometimes.
01:49:19.000 Sometimes.
01:49:19.000 Check out the app because when we pulled it up, there's actually a ton of businesses.
01:49:23.000 Oh, cool.
01:49:24.000 Now, obviously out of the, you know, 50,000 or so businesses that might be there, you might find a, you know, 500.
01:49:28.000 Hey, but you'll get what you need and you'll get it from good people.
01:49:31.000 Also, did you need 50,000 choices anyways?
01:49:34.000 Better than narrow down the pool.
01:49:35.000 That's fair choice.
01:49:35.000 Fair point.
01:49:37.000 Oh, if you guys want to watch that full episodes, Michael Seifert was the guest.
01:49:40.000 He's the CEO of Public Square.
01:49:42.000 Good episode, too.
01:49:43.000 Really fun, yeah.
01:49:44.000 All right.
01:49:46.000 Let's grab some Super Chits.
01:49:49.000 Let's grab some Super Chits.
01:49:50.000 Angel Torres says, please get Jimmy Dore on the show.
01:49:52.000 Then we can have Timmy Jimmy Power Hour from Nickelodeon.
01:49:55.000 Shout out to Graff and Ian.
01:49:58.000 Yeah, we've reached out to Jimmy before.
01:49:59.000 I've been on his show before.
01:50:01.000 It's really hard to get people on your show when they do their own show.
01:50:04.000 You know, because he does his own show.
01:50:05.000 But he's doing a comedy tour.
01:50:06.000 He'll be on the East Coast.
01:50:07.000 So I reached out to him and it's possible.
01:50:10.000 I would be, that would be, it would be so amazing to have Jimmy on.
01:50:12.000 It would be a really great show.
01:50:14.000 You know what?
01:50:16.000 When is Crowder going to Baltimore?
01:50:17.000 I think in December.
01:50:19.000 How amazing?
01:50:20.000 Oh, okay.
01:50:20.000 So not at the same time.
01:50:21.000 Yeah.
01:50:21.000 It would be absolutely hilarious if we had Jimmy and Crowder at the same time.
01:50:24.000 That'd be so fun, yeah.
01:50:26.000 That'd be great.
01:50:28.000 I'd be like, let's talk about what we agree on.
01:50:29.000 Guys, calm down.
01:50:30.000 We're agreeing.
01:50:31.000 We're agreeing on this part.
01:50:32.000 It would be very loud, I feel like.
01:50:34.000 Yeah.
01:50:34.000 JacksBFF says, Tim, I dare you to put on Twitter that Biden should pardon the January 6th Americans incarcerated.
01:50:39.000 I dare you.
01:50:41.000 OK.
01:50:42.000 He dared you.
01:50:43.000 He dared you.
01:50:44.000 You're going to have to do it now.
01:50:45.000 Why wouldn't I do it?
01:50:47.000 Because, well, I guess you'll see what will happen.
01:50:51.000 I'm phrasing it as a mass pardon of all over the place.
01:50:54.000 I don't want it to seem like a political move.
01:50:56.000 It's just got to be an American move.
01:51:00.000 But then he would have to admit that they're Americans.
01:51:03.000 And that crimes have been committed.
01:51:05.000 In order to pardon Hunter Biden, for instance, you've got to at least admit that there was a... Actually, could you pardon someone that hasn't committed any crimes?
01:51:11.000 Could I just say, Hannah Clare, you're pardoned.
01:51:13.000 Especially if they're in jail.
01:51:14.000 Yeah, you can pardon them.
01:51:16.000 But like, that's okay.
01:51:17.000 So I could pardon.
01:51:18.000 If he was like, I pardon everyone, that would just be like, maybe like this guy's gone completely insane.
01:51:25.000 Maybe.
01:51:26.000 All right, so here's what I'm writing.
01:51:27.000 You can't dare Tim and not take it seriously.
01:51:30.000 He's tweeting it right now.
01:51:32.000 Why would I not tweet this?
01:51:34.000 Biden should pardon all January 6th defendants as an olive branch to help lower the political conflict and escalation in the U.S.
01:51:39.000 That's a good idea.
01:51:40.000 Then underneath, write, I was dared to do this.
01:51:43.000 I'm just kidding.
01:51:44.000 I don't know, if I literally say it on this show, why wouldn't I tweet it as well?
01:51:48.000 I will say, the funny thing is, there are people who only know me from Twitter.
01:51:52.000 And their view of me is hilarious.
01:51:55.000 I'm sure.
01:51:55.000 It's your Twitter profile, basically.
01:51:57.000 Yeah, because I tweet nonsense half the time.
01:51:59.000 Like, I usually tweet the opposite of what I'm trying to say, because it flies in the face of the censors.
01:52:04.000 Or, like, okay, you know what?
01:52:07.000 I can't mention the thing I was going to mention, because we'll have to mention it on the after show.
01:52:11.000 It has to do with the Greyhound in France.
01:52:13.000 And so, if you're familiar with that story, you'll understand why I'm not, but let's do it, Ian.
01:52:21.000 But, uh, this after show is going to get really bad.
01:52:24.000 And it's going to include art from George Alexopoulos.
01:52:26.000 Of course it will.
01:52:28.000 Of course.
01:52:28.000 Do you know what story this is?
01:52:30.000 No.
01:52:30.000 Okay.
01:52:31.000 Well, I can't.
01:52:32.000 Don't want to spoil it.
01:52:33.000 I can't wait.
01:52:34.000 Can I allude to it?
01:52:35.000 No.
01:52:36.000 Just, just, I just want to give the tip of the iceberg.
01:52:39.000 Okay.
01:52:40.000 Is it about a dog?
01:52:42.000 Yes.
01:52:43.000 It's about a dog.
01:52:44.000 Okay.
01:52:44.000 You're going to love this.
01:52:45.000 I'm going to say it as professionally as possible.
01:52:49.000 Oh, I know what this is.
01:52:53.000 In an article published by the Lancet, we've encountered the first human to dog transmission of monkey pox.
01:52:58.000 I will leave it there and elaborate.
01:53:01.000 I remember this.
01:53:02.000 Yeah.
01:53:04.000 Oh man.
01:53:06.000 Look, it's not an issue for YouTube.
01:53:07.000 It's an issue for family friendly.
01:53:09.000 People might have kids watching.
01:53:10.000 We'll go to the members only and then talk about this.
01:53:13.000 Cause you don't have any kids that are members only?
01:53:16.000 Well, it's just we segment it in such that, like, people know if they turn this show on, we try to avoid, you know, we try to keep it like, you know, like if it was any other late night show.
01:53:27.000 But the After Hours one, it's like, you know what you're getting into.
01:53:29.000 Yeah, put your kids to bed.
01:53:30.000 We're gonna go to town now.
01:53:34.000 All right, all right, all right.
01:53:37.000 Cam Girl Asuna says, Tim talks about fleeing and being nonviolent, but what is the viable alternative?
01:53:42.000 If this, the last best hope of freedom on earth, falls, we have nowhere to flee to and no one to defend us.
01:53:48.000 I will have liberty at any cost.
01:53:49.000 I'm not advocating for fleeing the country.
01:53:52.000 I'm pointing out that there have been points in history where people fled the country.
01:53:55.000 There have been points in history where people stayed and defended their country and won.
01:53:58.000 I'm just saying, we're at that point, like obviously I'm not leaving, you know?
01:54:01.000 But when you start seeing the previous administration be arrested, investigated, all that crazy stuff, That is like, that happening is not a red flag.
01:54:13.000 Well, it is a red flag.
01:54:14.000 It's a very large 40 foot tall red flag with a sickle and a hammer on it.
01:54:18.000 But it is like, we're well past the point where you should be looking for red flags.
01:54:23.000 They have raised the flag up very high for everyone to clearly see at this point.
01:54:29.000 No, it's not warning signs anymore.
01:54:32.000 Yeah, no.
01:54:33.000 Now at this point, it's like we're watching them put the flag up.
01:54:38.000 Alright.
01:54:40.000 Jesse Barris says, according to Robert Barnes, Trump had a blanket declassified order in place during his presidency.
01:54:45.000 Any documents Trump took out of the White House was automatically declassified.
01:54:49.000 And I'm pretty sure that's the case regardless of if he even says it.
01:54:52.000 He's allowed to just take stuff and be like, it's not classified, I'm taking it.
01:54:56.000 Can he say like, here, this is declassified for you, but anyone else that finds that it's classified?
01:55:01.000 I don't believe so.
01:55:02.000 No.
01:55:02.000 I feel like that's more like granting someone temporary security clearance, which would probably be much harder to keep track of, right?
01:55:10.000 From what I know about security clearances, which is minimal.
01:55:12.000 But, you know, you would be like, oh, it's okay for you to see it right now.
01:55:17.000 Like it's either it's classified or it's not.
01:55:19.000 Got it.
01:55:19.000 Eric Boyd says, Nick, do you watch The Orville?
01:55:22.000 I think you said no, you didn't see it.
01:55:24.000 I saw the detransitioning episode Tim talked about.
01:55:26.000 It was about detransitioning for sure, but they thought they told a transitioning story.
01:55:30.000 Fan since seven days.
01:55:33.000 Eric, I disagree.
01:55:35.000 So I think it's a bit of a cynical view.
01:55:38.000 The Orville, for those that aren't familiar, it's Seth MacFarlane's space show, kind of like Star Trek.
01:55:45.000 They did an episode early on in 2017, in the second season, where one of the alien members of his crew, alien officers, He describes it as, if a human was born with a cleft lip, you would repair it, would you not?
01:55:57.000 This is the same thing we see.
01:55:58.000 And Seth MacFarlane literally says, you want to perform a sex change operation on a baby?
01:56:02.000 99.999% male society. So any child born female, he describes it as if a human was born with a cleft lip, you
01:56:09.000 would repair it, would you not?
01:56:10.000 This is the same thing we see. And Seth MacFarlane literally says, you want to perform a sex change operation
01:56:15.000 on a baby? That is unethical, immoral, you can't do that.
01:56:18.000 And so what ends up happening is the child grows up and in the later season, this new season, which is the jokes are
01:56:24.000 all gone, it's very serious.
01:56:26.000 The child says, I'm not supposed to be this way.
01:56:29.000 I want to go back to the way I was.
01:56:31.000 And there's a conflict over and then ultimately they de-transition the kid back to female.
01:56:37.000 But here's the reason why I don't agree with they thought they were telling a transitioning story.
01:56:41.000 The argument there is Seth MacFarlane was trying to be pro-sex change for children.
01:56:47.000 I don't think so because the later story is that females from the planet of age are smuggling females off the planet to prevent sex changes of minors.
01:56:58.000 Like, they're quite literally saying 17, 18, 20 year old, whatever, adult females are being smuggled off the planet so they don't have to undergo sex changes.
01:57:06.000 Like, they were outright saying, like, you could argue that they were saying it was wrong to force a sex change on a minor or whatever, but the story was not that they were telling people to transition.
01:57:16.000 I think it was really, really good.
01:57:17.000 I think, um...
01:57:19.000 The show, episode Domino, it's like the ninth episode.
01:57:23.000 It's an hour and 20 minutes long.
01:57:24.000 It's a movie, basically.
01:57:25.000 It's like a Star Wars, Star Trek kind of movie.
01:57:28.000 And it was really, really well made.
01:57:32.000 Now, I have some critiques, Seth, about what I think you should have done with this story.
01:57:37.000 No, it was really, really good.
01:57:38.000 I'm really impressed.
01:57:38.000 I think Orville's a fantastic show.
01:57:41.000 It's a bit wokey in some aspects, but I'm fine with that as long as it's like actually trying to address certain issues and explore them.
01:57:49.000 I'm a fan.
01:57:49.000 I think it's great.
01:57:50.000 I think Seth MacFarlane's got really awful political views, but you know, he did a good job on this one.
01:57:55.000 Scott Grimes is a fantastic actor.
01:57:58.000 Yeah, he's um, what's his name?
01:58:01.000 I forgot.
01:58:01.000 I forgot the character's name.
01:58:02.000 What was his name?
01:58:03.000 Lieutenant Gordon Maloy.
01:58:04.000 Maloy.
01:58:04.000 Maloy.
01:58:06.000 Typecast as an Irishman.
01:58:07.000 I just got to say, though, I don't like that they have him sing and play guitar all the time.
01:58:11.000 Because it's really out of place and takes up too much time.
01:58:14.000 But like, yeah, Seth, like, you know, he's a great singer.
01:58:19.000 Um, I'm pretty sure he does, uh, um, The Son on American Dad.
01:58:23.000 Yeah.
01:58:24.000 Steve?
01:58:25.000 Steve.
01:58:25.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
01:58:26.000 Steve.
01:58:26.000 Yeah.
01:58:26.000 Is that his name?
01:58:27.000 Yeah.
01:58:27.000 Yeah.
01:58:28.000 Yeah, it is.
01:58:29.000 Yeah, he was in Band of Brothers, and I thought he was one of the best parts of that, of that movie.
01:58:34.000 Huh.
01:58:35.000 Highly recommend it.
01:58:36.000 Eddie says, just went solar last week, so of course Fusion will get cracked now.
01:58:40.000 Yeah, solar's still good, though, to keep you off the grid, you know what I mean?
01:58:43.000 So you don't gotta worry about it.
01:58:44.000 But, man, I'm super excited for fusion.
01:58:47.000 Now, it would be really great when they get miniaturized fusion and we run our cars off of it, and then your car runs forever, basically.
01:58:53.000 Pour a little water in.
01:58:54.000 Pour a little water.
01:58:56.000 Pour a little water in your tank and then get a little fusion.
01:58:58.000 I identify with that guy's feeling, though.
01:59:00.000 Then they'll find a way to sell the water.
01:59:02.000 Yeah, uncontrollable power supply is an interesting problem I'm sure they've been considering for decades.
01:59:11.000 All right.
01:59:12.000 Terrence Grimes says, North Carolina here.
01:59:14.000 In the beginning I hated hearing Ian.
01:59:15.000 He's grew on me so much the show isn't complete without him.
01:59:18.000 Rock on, brother.
01:59:19.000 Oh, hell yeah.
01:59:20.000 Michael Malice told me.
01:59:22.000 He said, at first I didn't understand why you had Ian on the show, but now I really get it.
01:59:27.000 And I was like, I don't, I don't, I don't know what he thinks that means.
01:59:30.000 I don't know.
01:59:31.000 I was like, I just, I just think that the simple thing is while there's obviously like people are on the fence about Ian, some people are often saying, you know, they don't like what he's saying.
01:59:40.000 People say they love what he's saying.
01:59:42.000 I think one of the problems a lot of shows face is like, I don't, I don't want to make a homogenous show.
01:59:46.000 You know, like we need, we need somebody who, uh, is, is, is looking at things very, very differently.
01:59:51.000 Someone actually had a really great super chat last week where they said Ian often reflects the public very well in how he sees things and thinks about them.
01:59:59.000 I think that's great.
02:00:00.000 You're the man of the people.
02:00:01.000 That's it.
02:00:01.000 Bring me to the top.
02:00:03.000 But they were just basically saying he's got like a normie perspective on politics.
02:00:07.000 Compared to you, for sure.
02:00:08.000 I don't study this stuff before I come in, kind of on purpose.
02:00:11.000 It is nice to know what we're talking about before we get into it, but I like learning about it in real time.
02:00:15.000 I think that we talk about such, like, hot topics and hard, like, you look around, the world's like a powder keg in a lot of ways.
02:00:21.000 I want to at least make people laugh or bring joy in some way while we're talking about this, because this stuff needs to be talked about.
02:00:28.000 You haven't made me laugh once.
02:00:30.000 Well, you're impossible!
02:00:31.000 You're an impossible target, Nick.
02:00:33.000 I know, it's true.
02:00:34.000 Gotcha!
02:00:35.000 Derek D says, your local sheriff and police get huge amounts of money and equipment from the feds.
02:00:40.000 The last thing they're going to do is go against the federal government.
02:00:43.000 Yup.
02:00:44.000 That is true and correct.
02:00:46.000 When people talk about the militarization of police, they're often referring to heavy federal funding and subsidizing, which puts them basically in a de facto chain of command.
02:00:55.000 But they're also talking about MRAPs and, you know, heavy armor and weapons.
02:00:59.000 I don't think the issue is militarization.
02:01:02.000 I don't care if a cop has armor and a rifle.
02:01:04.000 I care that he's not suppressing my rights, by all means.
02:01:07.000 You got armor and a rifle, the people got armor and rifles, good.
02:01:10.000 Somebody shows up and wants to commit a crime, I hope you can stop them.
02:01:13.000 If you see a regular person, you know, driving their car and then you illegally search their car, now we got a problem.
02:01:20.000 All right, let's see.
02:01:23.000 Let's, uh, we'll try and grab, uh, one more here.
02:01:26.000 MF says, Hey Tim, you always talk about how it's so important that we make art and culture.
02:01:30.000 Well, hopefully I've done just that and need your help getting the word out.
02:01:33.000 It's called Overdrive.
02:01:34.000 Michael Fine, TY.
02:01:37.000 What is that?
02:01:38.000 Is that your thing that we're working on?
02:01:39.000 Okay, well there you go, Overdrive.
02:01:40.000 I think Cast Castle is finally coming out tomorrow.
02:01:43.000 Pilot episode.
02:01:45.000 It is basically behind the scenes with jokes.
02:01:48.000 For people who are big fans of it, I'll just reiterate the last video we did, it's just not sustainable to have the degree of editing, filming, and everything you want to do.
02:01:58.000 The show was making like a thousand bucks a month, but it was costing substantially more than that.
02:02:02.000 And there were people saying things like, you were making money off it, you know it, and I'm like, no.
02:02:06.000 But I don't like the idea of having 125,000 subscribers and then just being like, meh, didn't make enough, so all of you fans, you get nothing.
02:02:15.000 I was like, okay, maybe if we can convince 500 to 1,000 of those subscribers to just pay 10 bucks a month as members to watch that and all our other content, we can keep the show going.
02:02:24.000 And I think that's a better route to go considering we do want to do a vlog.
02:02:29.000 We do want to film fun stuff and funny stuff here.
02:02:31.000 We've got to find a way to make it work and it was just getting too expensive and we're subsidizing it.
02:02:35.000 So maybe this will work now and create a new reason for people to become members at TimCast.com.
02:02:40.000 Check out the After Hours show that's coming up and it's going to be really, really unfamily friendly.
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02:02:46.000 It's about a dog.
02:02:47.000 Yeah.
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02:02:54.000 Nick, do you want to shout anything out?
02:02:56.000 Yep, Terror on the Prairie.
02:02:58.000 Go see it at dailywire.com.
02:03:01.000 It's a terrific movie.
02:03:02.000 Western.
02:03:03.000 And I'm the title role.
02:03:05.000 I'm the terror.
02:03:07.000 That's you.
02:03:08.000 The terror.
02:03:08.000 It's horrifying.
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02:03:54.000 Nick, fantastic to see you again.
02:03:56.000 You look so happy, by the way.
02:03:57.000 I do?
02:03:58.000 Staring at me.
02:03:58.000 You look like you wanted to choke my neck or something.
02:04:01.000 No, no, no.
02:04:01.000 You didn't make it last.
02:04:02.000 I love you, man.
02:04:03.000 I just like you very much.
02:04:04.000 You're just not very funny.
02:04:06.000 Thank you for being honest.
02:04:07.000 It's always great to see you.
02:04:08.000 Thanks again for doing Capital Punishment and for pioneering this.
02:04:14.000 CapitalPunishment.Locals.com.
02:04:16.000 That's where you can see it.
02:04:17.000 Cool, dude.
02:04:18.000 See you later.
02:04:19.000 Thank you.
02:04:19.000 Guys, please don't make me go through this episode after the show tonight alone.
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02:04:24.000 I'm scared I'm not going to make it.
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02:04:31.000 I'm just warning all of you, we are not going to mince words starting off this members-only show.
02:04:36.000 We're going right for it.