On this week's show, we have a special guest, John Nicosia of Cycle Media, who joins us to talk about what's going on with CNN, Elon Musk's new deal with Tesla, and why the left is losing ground on the right.
00:02:28.000You've got some stories from the inner workings of the rise in digital media and all that stuff, so I think that'll be particularly interesting considering all the context we've got going on.
00:02:35.000Yeah, there's a lot going on, and I think there's a reset about to happen, certainly at CNN.
00:02:42.000And I think a site that big is going to create a wave, along with this happening with Twitter, I think there's a lot of opportunities for sites to reinvent themselves.
00:02:52.000Because right now the amount of people who hate media outnumbers the people actually watching.
00:03:00.000I don't think Brian Stelter has an audience.
00:03:02.000I think you're going to start to see people like Reed and other people who have no audiences
00:03:20.000I mean, there's a school of thought that he was there as Zucker's henchman, which, you know, I happened to be there in January of 2017 when Trump called.
00:03:54.000I mean, I thought it was a joke at the time.
00:03:56.000So I think Brian served a purpose for I mean, you know, Brian was part of a website called TV Newser back in the day that covered the media, you know, and he has some chops on that.
00:04:08.000And then, you know, everyone just fell apart during Trump.
00:04:31.000It's interesting you said that Zucker said a four-year war was about to commence in 2017, because it does feel like they lost last year, CNN.
00:04:39.000My numbers also are up 2,000% on Twitter.
00:04:41.000I got 50 followers on Monday, and then I got 50 on Monday, and then 1,115 on Tuesday.
00:04:49.000It feels like in the culture war that we won a big battle.
00:04:55.000A big battle was won when Elon put forth this buy deal, and now the enemy's in a rout.
00:05:00.000It's as if we're taking multiple, hill after hill, repositioning our strategic offense.
00:05:05.000It's like, as soon as Elon, it's like, you know, like Gandalf in Battle for Helm's Deep, we go for one last ride, storming through the orcs, and then we see up on the hill and the sunlight comes in, and then all of a sudden the Rohirrims are charging down.
00:05:19.000But it's not just, as soon as that happened, it's like all of a sudden on every front, like you were saying Ian, just different fields are getting taken.
00:05:40.000And I think people had a lot to say and now they're not as afraid with Elon out there.
00:05:46.000I think they see somebody putting money up to, you know, bring back some level of balance.
00:05:52.000Well, isn't it incredible how as soon as Elon Musk said he wanted to have more fair and equitable rules on the website that would allow people from both sides of the political aisle to voice their opinions, people on the left freaked out and then people on the right just started posting like crazy.
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00:07:35.000Yo, the verge is a progressive website when they point out you're doing something wrong and Something must be really wrong.
00:07:42.000They report, Twitter overstated the number of daily users on its service for three years straight, over-counting by up to 1.9 million users each quarter.
00:07:51.000The error was due to Twitter inadvertently counting multiple accounts as active when they were all tied to a single user, even if they weren't in use.
00:08:00.000These incorrect usage numbers were given for Q1 2019 through Q4 2021.
00:08:05.000This somehow, this is somehow not the first time Twitter has done this.
00:08:10.000In 2017, Twitter also realized it had been overstating its user figures by 1 to 2 million for three years.
00:08:16.000The repeat mistake was revealed today in Twitter's earnings release for the first quarter of 2022.
00:08:36.000They were projecting $1.23 billion making only $1.2 billion.
00:08:42.000Now, that's not that bad, but their money is going down, and I predicted this.
00:08:47.000This likely, in my opinion, would have resulted in a stock drop-off, but because Elon has already agreed to buy it, stock is likely going up or staying the same.
00:08:55.000In fact, the fact the stock isn't currently sitting at $54.20 says to me there are some people who think the deal won't go through, and it's possible.
00:09:03.000But this is big, and it could be a reason.
00:09:06.000Many people on Twitter are now saying, this sounds like fraud, yo.
00:09:14.000I don't think Elon Musk would decide not to buy the platform now, but I wonder what this means for the deal, and I wonder what it means for Twitter's executives.
00:09:24.000Yeah, I mean Elon's ability to negotiate downwards.
00:09:27.000Also, of course, let's point out the fact that Twitter, which has decided that they would take it upon themselves to determine what was or was not misinformation in the outside world, would not even deliver accurate figures on how their website was doing.
00:09:39.000I'll tell you, man, I worked behind the scenes at Mines developing that company for a decade.
00:09:44.000And there is no way that they did not know that one person with five accounts is not one person.
00:09:51.000They're intentionally allowing that to play to overvalue the company.
00:10:29.000Not a single person said, Hey, wait a minute guys.
00:10:32.000I think if you've got a company that knows if somebody misgendered somebody, uh, you know, if somebody in that can shut them down and are that deep into the daily workings of their site that they didn't somehow know how many people were using it as kind of.
00:10:50.000They might be calculating daily active logins, which is the dirty game to play because it's the one person logs into five different accounts, then it's still one person.
00:11:00.000Well, I mean, look, if they couldn't figure out how many people were using their website, all I have to say is they need to learn to code.
00:11:06.000I knew somebody was going to say that.
00:11:15.000I mean, look, we're seeing a lot of victories across the board, but does anybody really believe someone will be held accountable for this stuff?
00:11:21.000I predict that there's going to be a lot more that's going to come out of this closet at Twitter, that this is going to be less of the problem that I think we're going to find out as far as what's been being manipulated over the last X amount of years.
00:11:32.000Well, as we pointed out earlier, you know, in the intro and the other day, this weird conspiracy theory That I think is backed up by more than enough circumstantial evidence to say there should be a probe.
00:11:43.000I believe there should be a criminal investigation because Jack Dorsey, as well, I can't remember who else, but I'm pretty sure other people from Twitter have testified before Congress under oath.
00:11:53.000I'm pretty sure they were all under oath, right?
00:11:55.000As saying they did not have political blocks or anything like that.
00:11:59.000Now we're seeing serious circumstantial evidence that that was not true.
00:12:05.000Of course, I'm not confident anybody would do anything about it.
00:12:08.000Well, during the hacking, when we were talking about the day the blue checks disappeared, there was screenshots that were sent out that showed there was a box to click for shadow banding.
00:12:19.000Like, that was a real thing that got out, that they kind of, you know, whisked away.
00:12:24.000But there was a lot of, there's a lot of stuff that did come up after that popped up, that they showed these screenshots I mean, the bigger day was that it had been hacked, but then there were all of these screenshots that popped up that there was this, you know, console that showed that there was an ability to kind of quiet certain users.
00:13:51.000So they'll say everything is political, but then when it comes to something they want to be taken for granted, they'll say, this isn't political.
00:13:58.000It's like, well, actually the reason a political system exists to a large extent is for us to figure out on a political scale how we treat each other.
00:14:06.000But also most of these mistakes that if you look back to over the years that were happening just coincidentally were happening to conservatives.
00:14:13.000I mean you didn't see like CERC, CENC, and all these giant liberals on the right on the left you know their their accounts being shadow banned or losing people or being for that matter being suspended for anything.
00:14:27.000The the red-headed libertarian a good friend of ours Josie.
00:14:30.000That's her Twitter follow her at TRHL official She was banned on January 20th of 2021 and reinstated abruptly this year, randomly on Tuesday.
00:14:43.000And she said, has this happened to any prominent left-wing profile?
00:15:17.000Yeah, several people from Occupy Wall Street had their accounts nuked.
00:15:21.000And I think it was because what we're really seeing is establishment versus anti-establishment.
00:15:28.000And because the people associated with the sphere of influence of the right, or whatever you want to call it, are anti-establishment, they're more likely to get hit.
00:17:17.000So, I mean, I think the courts are getting to a point where the courts eventually are going to weigh in on this, that, you know, a town square certainly has a certain level of protection that I think is kind of just making its way through the system.
00:17:39.000But also, we were talking about this, I believe, two episodes ago, but that would be pretty in line with the decision of Marsh v. Alabama.
00:17:45.000Again, I'm no lawyer, but it was basically decided by the Supreme Court in 1946 that even if you own a company town and it's your own private property, if you open yourself up to the public square to a large enough extent, you have to import the First Amendment, basically, or the civil rights that would be due to the people in that jurisdiction.
00:20:26.000I think what we're seeing now with Twitter in panic, with these weird algorithmic changes, with CNN Plus collapsing, with Joy Reid losing her job, with James Corden quitting.
00:20:36.000With all of these things, what we're seeing is that it can't survive on its own.
00:20:42.000It butted off, but it has no source of energy.
00:20:45.000And so people like Cenk Uygur and Brian Stelter and all these people who decided to join that sphere are now watching the walls close in on them as it dries out, as its life energy is evaporating all around it, unable to sustain itself, and they'll regret it.
00:20:59.000Well, I think it has to do with also like ratings.
00:21:02.000There has to be anger and a reason for people to come to something.
00:21:06.000And if you look at ratings on MSNBC versus CNN, you know, if there's a Giant terror attack.
00:21:11.000You guarantee that CNN is going to beat everyone because people run to these things.
00:21:15.000And I think that these types of these types of products pull people towards it.
00:21:22.000And you know, there was a giant people.
00:21:25.000There were a lot of people invented during the Trump era that fed off of the rage.
00:21:29.000Well, so let me let me pull up this next story from the Daily Mail.
00:22:05.000In 2012, the left started moving way further left, and now me was closer to the center because left and right were spreading further apart.
00:22:13.000By 2021, me, the character in the comic, has stayed in the exact same place.
00:22:18.000But the left has gone so far left that me is now closer to conservative.
00:23:13.000And then Bernie decided to run along with the left, as did so many other personalities.
00:23:18.000And they sacrificed any sense of principle and conviction for tribe.
00:23:23.000So here I am standing in the same place, and now they're like, you're right wing.
00:23:26.000And I'm like, that's exactly my point.
00:23:28.000So you've got this memes posted, and this dude, this guy Max, verified Twitter user, posts it and says, the right literally tried to overthrow the government, the left nominated Joe Biden.
00:23:40.000And I'm like, you're proving the point.
00:23:43.000Nearly every single right-wing person condemned what happened on January 6th, said it was wrong.
00:23:49.000Some of those prominent right-wing individuals all said the violence was a big mistake and they shouldn't have done it.
00:26:57.000But that's, I think, where the alt-right came from, is they thought that that was this dangerous racist, white racist movement.
00:27:02.000But this Black Lives Matter is very similar.
00:27:04.000I'm not going to say the exact same thing, but it's also like a race movement.
00:27:07.000The general idea which allowed the literal neo-Nazis to recruit was that they were going to young white men Who were frustrated for a variety of reasons, couldn't find work, and they were saying, hey, you see all those memes?
00:27:21.000All those news stories about how white people are bad and evil?
00:27:24.000Doesn't that frustrate you and make you angry?
00:27:40.000You know, and then the left, it's, there's this kind of push on both sides.
00:27:43.000And then, you know, you make this symbol, this firefighter maid, and now he's a white guy.
00:27:48.000And there was this whole media circus behind all of it that took, you know, I'm sure there are plenty of, you know, white supremacist fringes in that movement, but the vast majority of them were probably just guys saying, I'm a straight white guy.
00:28:05.000And then you get this pushback from the left saying you're this, that, and the other thing, and you make them more extreme because you're continually trying to one up each other.
00:28:13.000Yeah, I mean, and when you look at how hard the left has to reach and grasp its straws in order to conjure up any kind of narrative of America being a white supremacist country, basically all the hate crime narratives we hear end up being completely false upon further investigation.
00:28:27.000They don't hold up to the slightest scrutiny.
00:28:30.000Every single time they accuse someone of being racism, it's because they dog whistled a dog whistle, which was also a dog whistle that could possibly have some racist meaning behind it.
00:28:38.000That only they could hear and somehow only left-wing people end up hearing.
00:28:41.000But also you would hear things like, you know, Asian hate, Asian hate, Asian hate.
00:28:45.000And then you would, you know, look further and it was a black guy with an Asian girl.
00:28:51.000And then you watched in the media that the race, which was just part of as being in an editor,
00:28:55.000you would ask their age and normally their race, normally just started to vanish.
00:29:00.000So if it was a group of five black kids, it would just save five people.
00:29:04.000If it was five white men doing something to somebody else, you'd see something,
00:29:07.000especially if it was a white guy going after an Asian, they would always show that it was a white guy.
00:29:12.000And then I found out that it was a lot of others.
00:29:16.000I'm not sure if y'all remember a couple of years ago.
00:29:19.000There were there was a group of black young adults who kidnapped a white young adult with autism and tortured him for days and It was a consistent trend that in media they were referred to as kids and he was referred to as a man and Were they under 18?
00:29:35.000Even though they were all over the age of 18.
00:31:36.000The liberal in the audience would be just like, oh, you know, you should really think that over.
00:31:41.000Now the liberal in the audience gets on Twitter, tells them who you are and has you fired.
00:31:45.000And that's how far the left have gone with these types of things.
00:31:50.000And you can pick any topic and they'll do the same thing.
00:31:54.000I do believe that the right has gone further right.
00:31:57.000It's just been banned off of social media because I had to administer these people on mines.
00:32:02.000Like I saw them exodus from Twitter, YouTube and Facebook and like they were very extreme.
00:32:06.000I think what's happened is when I think and I hate to keep saying Trump all the time, but when he came along.
00:32:13.000An industry popped up where you had this disinformation.
00:32:17.000For some reason, we had social media for years that didn't need fact-checkers.
00:32:22.000CNN was from the 80s and didn't have a front and focal fact-checker that needed to come out every 10 minutes, Dale, and tell you what was right.
00:32:30.000That's what the journalist was supposed to do.
00:32:33.000And I think what happened over the years was that the highlighting of these terrible things were amplified.
00:34:27.000No one with any sense can take a chart like that seriously.
00:34:29.000It's just something that left-wing people believe in because they buy into all the hate hoaxes they hear from the media and they genuinely believe that America has become a fascist country because Donald Trump was elected fairly in 2016.
00:34:41.000We did a video about this for Freedom Tunes where we debunked a similar analysis that Carlos Maza was using and so we sort of went through and pulled it apart but In order to get figures like this, the one that we debunked specifically, which I'm sure uses a similar methodology, basically put Obama and Harry Truman on the same level with respect to how far to the left they were.
00:35:06.000Anyone who knows anything about history or either of those men will tell you that that's absolutely ridiculous.
00:35:10.000And you mentioned earlier that Obama is on the right, technically speaking, or according to the analysis you brought up earlier, he was the most far left president we had ever had up until the point when he was elected.
00:35:21.000He campaigned on universal healthcare.
00:35:23.000A dramatic and complete overhaul of our healthcare system to the left.
00:35:28.000And, as a senator in Illinois, he voted against the Born Alive Act, which would prevent you from being able to kill the child after they were born if the abortion failed.
00:35:39.000Let me address this tweet from Sawyer Hackett, who responded to Nate Silver.
00:35:43.000Sawyer is a blue-check, co-host of Our America Podcast, and he says, The left.
00:36:27.000What they're doing is, either they're completely blind or they lie as a means to an end.
00:36:32.000When they say, by any means necessary, when they smash windows, when they kill, when they lie, cheat, and steal, and then they look at a group of, you know, 800 or so people who violently rioted at the Capitol, and we sit here and say, that was wrong, they shouldn't have done that, and those who are violent will go to prison, they ignore that outright.
00:36:47.000When they lie and make up things about the parental rights and education bill, this is the game they play.
00:36:53.000Now, there are people on the right who play a similar game for sure.
00:36:56.000But look, I'm approaching this from... I read different news sources.
00:36:59.000I use ground.news and look at the bias and ownership of these news outlets.
00:37:03.000They can show you if it's conglomerate, private interest.
00:37:05.000They can tell you if it's left-leaning or right-leaning.
00:37:07.000And what I find is that on the right, For whatever reason, someone like Ben Shapiro, one of the most prominent conservative personalities, whether or not people like him, he's very famous with one of the biggest podcasts in the country, nay, the world, and he is a very moderate conservative guy.
00:37:25.000He's got your traditional conservative positions, and he bases his assessments on fact.
00:37:30.000On the left you have people like Rachel Maddow, who for years said insane things about Russia.
00:37:35.000Cenk Uygur, who just called for intervention in Ukraine because he thinks Russians are waging this war because they want to kill gay people.
00:37:42.000You have people like Joy Reid, who didn't she claim that she got hacked?
00:38:24.000That is the establishment, and it is the people who are like, you know, you've got these leftist personalities who are like, well, I don't like the Democrats.
00:38:51.000Where they they're they're obtuse on purpose or they're genuinely just broken people.
00:38:56.000Well they also in the media they'll they'll just leave facts out and they do look the Covington kids you can go down the list of things and if you own the shop like they do they're not going to report it and they've they've lived through this whole existence where they're not used to being called out and they you know Roger Ailes said to me once about, you know, and he's famously said to it in public that, you know, there's 30 liberal sites and organizations on the left and there's just us.
00:39:26.000And they can't, they lose their mind over us.
00:39:29.000And it's because they call Fox like the canary in the coal mine.
00:39:32.000So you notice if you've watched Fox, and God only knows I lived my life doing this for a living, which was, they've been talking about the border for months and months and months.
00:39:42.000And now all of a sudden you start to see this creep into CNN and Title 42 and what are we going to do?
00:39:48.000And you're like, if you've been watching Fox, you've heard about it since, you know, last year when they were coming
00:40:28.000I've seen it in conservative newsrooms in D.C.
00:40:30.000where you still have young people who are quote-unquote conservatives, but they are very in tune to what people are saying to them about them on Twitter because they have to live in this liberal city.
00:40:43.000You know, what we're seeing with everything is fierce ability to come back at people like, you know, you do and other people they, you know, you will say what you mean and not worry about it.
00:40:53.000Whereas you have so many people who are terrified because they see what happens to people.
00:41:53.000Well, here's the thing, Barack Obama is not to the left as the niche far left ideology that like some 16 year old on Twitter is posting about, therefore he's on the right.
00:42:50.000Now, you know, 10 years ago as a conservative, you know, you'd be thrown out if you even a hint that you cheated on your wife.
00:42:57.000And now that's fine because people were so sick of being talked down to that, you know, the flyover states and this and that, that he, he hit a nerve in people and everyone, you know, the people voted for him.
00:43:10.000Remember him in the eighties, they weren't, you know, they remember Ivanka.
00:43:13.000They remember that whole show of a mess that took place in his life.
00:43:17.000They knew it wasn't going to be pretty.
00:43:18.000But they wanted to blow that city up. And you know, it blew up the media, him, everyone around him,
00:43:24.000and you know, it changed America forever. You mentioned some of the misdeeds in Trump's
00:43:29.000personal life. The left spent years telling us that we shouldn't care how a person could
00:43:34.000conducts themself in their private life, what we should care about are the policies they support,
00:43:39.000as if a political leader is just a set of policies and not a person who has to make
00:43:43.000moral decisions by the people that they're committed to.
00:43:46.000And then Trump comes along, and he absolutely did not follow the rules that I, as a
00:43:53.000Christian and many conservatives, would say that a political leader should, but he didn't
00:43:59.000hate us. He didn't absolutely detest us, like virtually every other political leader of my lifetime
00:44:16.000And everyone's laughing and screaming and cheering.
00:44:17.000Yeah, I mean, you know, he said things that a lot of people thought.
00:44:24.000You're right, he's a billionaire who should look down from his tower, but for whatever reason, if you talk to these people, especially people at some of these events with him, And it was like a god showed up, because it's a lot of people who spent a lot of years caring about the country and watching it tick away.
00:44:44.000And somebody... Now, he was flawed and you can say what you want about him, but his heart was at least in the right place from their point of view.
00:44:52.000And, you know... We need... Americans want to be involved in the political process, as they should be, and the presidents are representative.
00:44:59.000So for a president to respond to you and allow themselves to be changed by your opinions, that's the point.
00:47:00.000Don Lemon and Cuomo used to have these little chit-chats.
00:47:04.000Boy, when Cuomo left, Lemon couldn't talk about him bad as fast as he could.
00:47:10.000Famously, Wallace and Tapper hate each other.
00:47:14.000The problem was when Zucker left, he left this giant vacuum of power because he was hands-on.
00:47:20.000And, you know, the thought that, and my old boss, Dan Abrams, did a thing once right when this launched, was like, who thought this would be a good idea?
00:47:28.000Like, who thought you wanted to watch?
00:47:29.000And Tucker, like, somebody said to me, and I was kind of invested but not super, was like, you know that Tapper has a book show on this.
00:47:46.000And, you know, I've been in the media 15 years and not only is there a city bubble in New York and D.C.
00:47:52.000there's also a media bubble within them that they think that they live in this moment and they live in these big important roles and if you try to question their judgment or disrupt their judgment on how things should work.
00:48:08.000And you know, it's kind of like when Facebook years ago said pivot to video and all these companies spent millions of dollars spending on video equipment and then nothing happened because I guess millennials wanted 15 second videos, not 30 second videos.
00:48:22.000But this was, you know, we need a streaming service because the kids are watching streaming.
00:48:26.000And most people think to themselves, it had to be like a lot of focus groups and stuff.
00:48:30.000Yeah, they paid money to be told that this would work.
00:48:33.000When if you asked a person on the corner, would this, a homeless person, who had a bare, like had watched Cable in the last five years, would say God no.
00:48:43.000He wouldn't, you know, but they- Did they not do- They did a study, and I can't remember whether it was KPMG, and I don't wanna, but it was one of the big ones that said, this will be X amount of X whatever.
00:48:56.000Now, to be fair, when Zucker came on, when he took over, he introduced documentaries.
00:49:03.000Now you look at CNN today and you think, wow, they have some pretty good documentaries.
00:49:08.000And people made fun of him when he did that.
00:49:11.000Let's just say that if they had endless amounts of money and endless amounts of time, maybe once no one had cable anymore and this was the only way to watch CNN, it might have worked.
00:49:22.000But when Discovery comes in and has, you know, X amount of billions of dollars in debt, and this thing is costing, and you know, Walz is making seven million.
00:49:31.000I mean, that's what they're paying him.
00:49:33.000Oh, yeah, absolutely had to be about worth every seven to $10 million because retirement.
00:49:38.000That's about what Lemon and those people make.
00:49:40.000Now, the odds are that Walsh is probably going to end up with Cuomo's old time slot at nine.
00:49:45.000Because you got this guy, what are you going to do with him?
00:50:17.000If you're a casual watcher and watch, say, Brian Stelter, who right now is kind of this thing to watch as far as the tempo there, he's the guy who used to, every Sunday, go after Fox or tweet at Fox or say this stuff about... He hasn't said anything about Fox.
00:50:34.000Cause they kind of set the rules where this isn't about, this is a news organization.
00:50:38.000This isn't about going after another news organization.
00:50:41.000This is about, you know, and then the Ukraine, the Ukraine stuff happened.
00:50:45.000Perfect timing for the people in Discovery who wanted to see CNN go back to news because they do an excellent job.
00:50:51.000Kalissa Ward and all these people are bombs going off.
00:50:54.000It reminds the only people who are watching cable, boomers, of you know Bernie in Iraq when you know we for the first time saw war happen live during shock and awe so it kind of reinforced that there is a business there now the problem with that is no one's watching cable news anymore and unless it's a crazy moment happening people aren't running to the TVs and god only know you guys in your 20s aren't sitting there watching cable on your if you even have a cable TV package
00:51:22.000It used to be that when I heard, when I saw a tweet and it said, thing happened, I would turn on CNN.
00:51:32.000But also that whole breaking news thing used to be when there was breaking news, now Fox has it in every commercial, and it's kind of lost its luster where you used to hear that noise and something big was happening.
00:51:43.000But this will be probably one of the largest media disasters, I hope, for hundreds of years from now.
00:51:52.000You can't even begin to... There's part of me that would like to believe that the people at CNN putting the project together saw the market research that showed it wouldn't work.
00:52:01.000They're like, hold on, let's just send it to Snopes first.
00:52:03.000Let's see if they can debunk this research telling us it's not going to work.
00:52:07.000Again, you can't imagine the egos at play.
00:52:11.000And you, you know, they live in now Hudson Yards, this gigantic building on this island with looking down at people and they all talk to each other.
00:52:35.000They live in a bubble where they're all farting and then rushing over to smell the person's fart and telling everybody it smells like cinnamon buns.
00:52:44.000And it's if you go to these parties, you'll like, I'll tell you one thing, working at Mediaite, the best thing that ever happened was the CNN launch parties.
00:52:52.000When they launched this thing, I don't know what the number is, but it was hundreds of thousands of dollars for the launch party of this.
00:52:59.000No, it's just all of the media people come from all the different media places.
00:53:05.000That's why, you know, Fox is the outlier, but you'll all see them with each other at different parties and it's all this little club they're in and they all know each other and they've all worked with each other.
00:53:16.000That's why you see media reporters that, you know, will always, you know, kind of hedge what they're going to say because they're thinking, well, who knows what they're going to own someday and I might want to work for them.
00:53:40.000He's a conservative gay guy who was kind of invented for Trump because the CNN PR used to be the kindest, sweetest people.
00:53:49.000Like, if they, working on the other end of it, when they didn't like something, it would be this nice email.
00:53:54.000And they got Matt to just become this bulldog that was basically the Trump version of a PR person at CNN.
00:54:01.000But anyway he famously said it was doing great and they were hoping it and then it went out of business like two days later.
00:54:07.000Yeah so Matt Dornick this is a funny story here.
00:54:10.000It was pointed out that Joe Biden is not a practicing Catholic because by definition he is and he doesn't give assent to Catholic teaching and so someone reached out to CNN Explaining this, CNN, you called Joe Biden a practicing Catholic.
00:54:26.000Matt Dornick screenshots the email and tweets it out saying, this is really gross.
00:54:31.000Which personally, personally speaking, I don't think it's a great communication strategy.
00:54:35.000It's like screenshot someone's email and then post it calling it gross.
00:54:39.000But also he dismissed a blatant, like clear cut fact.
00:54:43.000He's kind of the representation of what happened to CNN in the Trump era, in that it was all—they felt the only way to respond to him has become—see, they viewed him as just this ignorant, loud buffoon, and what they ended up becoming was the ignorant, loud buffoon.
00:55:01.000The Chris Wallace news makes me feel really good.
00:55:25.000But she ended up with 30 million extra bucks in the bank because she said something offensive about, again, she was Black Santa and then said something offensive.
00:56:03.000Like, what's the question you can't ask anymore is how the news is made.
00:56:08.000Not what should, like, there's no more, like, Chris Wallace's father, Mike Wallace, you'd be scared out of your wits when he walked in the doors because there was nothing, there was, you know, no agenda with him.
00:56:19.000Now, of course, they were all left-leaning, but still, you know, We are in a period where it's the words you're not allowed to say.
00:58:11.000Well, not officially yet, but Comcast doesn't like her.
00:58:15.000The people, Roberts and the people at the top don't like her.
00:58:19.000And I got wind of something that was said that, you know, They're going to use, and I said this to somebody, that if you notice in the last few days you saw her ratings being leaked out as far as she's had the lowest ratings and whatever.
00:58:31.000But she's just becoming offensive to everyone and it's becoming offensive to advertisers.
00:58:36.000There's a lot of advertisers who are balking.
00:58:38.000There's only so many times you can say that Elon Musk bought it because he wants apartheid back.
00:58:44.000You can say that white people did X, Y, and Z.
00:58:46.000But if you just start using it as an example for everything, you start to become offensive to mostly, even black people find her offensive.
00:58:56.000Many of my black friends, many people I've talked to find her offensive.
00:59:01.000She does comparable to Don Lemon, but that's not saying much.
00:59:04.000Yeah, well, neither of those people are probably going to be around for the long term.
01:00:03.000If you combine Anderson Cooper from CNN and Chris Hayes and MSNBC, you combine their ratings, it is still almost 300,000 viewers less than Tucker Carlson.
01:00:30.000Yeah, because they don't know what to do with her.
01:00:32.000What Happened With Joy reads a fun story in that it revolves a lot around what happened with George Floyd.
01:00:39.000And it's a basic narrative, and that is there, you know, Al Sharpton's those types of people who have used race as a way to continue to make money.
01:00:50.000And she used it as a way to keep her job because everyone at MSNBC is terrified of her.
01:00:58.000And everyone at NBCUniversal is terrified of her.
01:01:01.000On the other hand, people at Comcast, now, there's also other things coming.
01:01:06.000And speaking of someone we've talked about earlier, there's lawsuits coming about things she has said about people and so forth.
01:01:12.000And we saw what happened with the Covington kids as far as how that went for CNN and others.
01:01:19.000And she has said some things equal about people that are coming down the pike.
01:01:23.000All in all, she's just not a positive light for the network.
01:01:28.000And that whole gay thing has come back to haunt her in ways that I don't think she's quite well aware of.
01:01:35.000You can never survive on the left, man.
01:01:38.000If you're on the left and you say something like that, you're like, oh, it was hacked.
01:01:42.000If you're on the right, they would want to see the forensics of it before you'd get your show back.
01:01:47.000And that's sort of part of my concern with what we were discussing earlier about Elon Musk potentially unveiling some sketchiness or potential fraud with Twitter's code is that I think it would end up being the same kind of stories we got with Hillary's emails.
01:02:00.000Everyone would know that there was foul play and nothing would be done about it and it would just sort of be waved away.
01:02:04.000I do also want to mention, however, that when we're looking at Wallace's numbers, Tapper's numbers, even Maddow's numbers, I'm honored to say that I once did a cartoon that was a parody of a news show and it was literally just people farting and it got more views.
01:03:56.000I bet it's the girl with the pink hair and the purple hair who come up to her or people who are invested in the script.
01:04:04.000Even those far lefties though, even those progressive types who are just completely wrong about everything, even they don't like legacy media.
01:04:10.000They'll watch Twitch streamers who have a left-wing perspective.
01:04:43.000During certain, like the whole, you know, Mueller report.
01:04:47.000Those types of things where people, and that shows you where we are as a country, because they're watching as a sporting event.
01:04:54.000They want their Team Trump to go down.
01:04:56.000They want him, Mueller, to come up and say, I got him.
01:04:59.000And that's all they're watching it for.
01:05:00.000She almost cried when the Mueller report came out.
01:05:03.000Well, famously, media, I'm not sure you can see it on the site anymore, but a famous ABC journalist cried the night that Trump got elected.
01:05:12.000And and he called her out later In in one of the first times he met them. But yeah, there
01:05:19.000was a lot of people invested I mean that night was surreal just of how many people were
01:05:24.000sad something happened in like 2015 to 2016 You know in this period where people's brains just just
01:05:34.000It was like Ben, what's his name outside the Hillary event, Ben Rhodes, where he's just sitting there, that video of him just sitting there going, I don't know what happened.
01:05:43.000It's a famous video right after she gives her concession speech.
01:05:49.000And it's famous because no one really knew what to say because one side of you were like, wow, I voted for him.
01:05:56.000But do you think he's good and sane and the other side of you was like, yeah, you know, and I watched a lot of young people feel really happy about the future.
01:06:05.000And, you know, plus I think the mood of the country was they were sick and tired of the establishment.
01:06:35.000I mean, look, late night is just by definition a really disadvantaged formula because a good stand-up comedian might come out with an hour every year.
01:06:44.000And then these late night hosts come out there, what, every night with something like 45 minutes of material.
01:06:48.000And so it's not going to be the best for the most part, even if you have talented writers, but they've stopped trying to be funny altogether.
01:06:55.000And it literally is just clapter, like you mentioned.
01:07:36.000And then everyone can clap and cheer for Alex Skarsgård and he can make a joke about it.
01:07:40.000I would say that if you were a conspiracy theorist, you would say that there's a media apparatus that feeds off of itself.
01:07:46.000If you ever listen to what Colbert says at night, he's kind of picking up on what the theme of the day was for them going after whoever on Marjorie Taylor Greene.
01:07:56.000So she's the piñata for the left for the day and he kind of finishes it off at the end of the day.
01:08:01.000And they used to do that in a funny way, him and, Jon Stewart's a perfect example.
01:08:06.000He's been in the news lately where he went completely crazy left the other day
01:08:10.000where he used to be, I mean, he'd be, if you look at some of his oldest shows,
01:08:14.000he's gonna be a conservative considered today.
01:08:17.000He used to be moderate in the middle, and he would grab everyone, and you'd joke about some idiot saying something.
01:08:46.000You know, you looked at some market research and they said, John, I'm telling you, you gotta go woke and be as racist as you can against white people.
01:09:35.000And we did this whole write-up about him.
01:09:37.000And you've watched as he, you know, and you're listening to a Google employee or whoever he happens to be getting, a CNN employee producer saying, yeah, we lean left.
01:09:45.000And the next day, somehow, that isn't what you just saw.
01:09:57.000It's that people like Jon Stewart bring in an audience who doesn't pay attention to the news, and then he says things, and the applause sign lights up, and everyone's like, And they used to be interview shows up until 2006.
01:10:08.000The only way you're going to see an actor talk about their experience was on The Tonight Show or Letterman or something like that.
01:10:13.000Now they have their own YouTube channels.
01:10:57.000Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks, he tweets out, conservatives claim to be pro-free speech, but they literally celebrate a bill called Don't Say Gay.
01:11:06.000And I'm like, bro, the bill's not called that.
01:11:08.000And he's like, yeah, well, you don't speak out against DeSantis for his anti-BDS legislation.
01:11:13.000I was like, we mentioned it almost every time we talk about DeSantis.
01:11:17.000I tweeted and I said, I think the Don't Say Gay Bill might be the largest, fastest fake news in history.
01:11:26.000Because if you were to look at it that day, every single headline started with Don't Say Gay Bill.
01:11:32.000And no one, I had this famous fight with Mark Hamill, I said, did you read the bill?
01:11:36.000I had thousands of people like coming at me, you know, because no one read the bill.
01:11:40.000You don't think Mark Hamill read six pages of this bill that just says you can't?
01:11:44.000And then you're like, if you're going to pick a topic, and as a gay person, trust me, that came out in 88, we have a lot of things that we had to overcome.
01:11:52.000If you're going to pick arguing over whether K-3 grades can talk about sex, you're going to... I've said this and Sully, what's his name, said it too.
01:12:06.000You're going to set the whole cause back 25 years.
01:12:08.000Because I've seen a lot of homophobic stuff flow out since then.
01:12:12.000Now everyone's this or that or pedophile or that.
01:12:15.000Let's make this easy for people who aren't familiar.
01:12:17.000I have no problem with critical race theory books in schools.
01:13:21.000Taking the teachings of religion, but putting it in math lessons.
01:13:24.000Now, religious schools actually do this, and that's fine if you go to a religious school.
01:13:28.000In a public school, I don't think you should have critical praxis or religious praxis, but if the teachers want to discuss any ideology, I'm fine with it.
01:13:35.000I think the one good thing that came out of the pandemic is that parents figured out what their kids were learning in school.
01:13:41.000Like, you were just off the kid goes, and I mean, these days, hoping he didn't get shot,
01:13:46.000but you just, off they went, and then now you get to look over their shoulder while
01:13:50.000they're teaching these things, and I think it was a good, and you saw it in Virginia.
01:13:56.000Yeah, you saw that parents, you don't screw with the kids, and I'll tell you, you know,
01:13:59.000there was a lot of Democrats who voted for him because Democrats love telling you how
01:14:03.000to run your life until they have to, you know, do it to their kids.
01:14:08.000And, uh, we got to see the, what happens when you do that, because, you know, you can't make everyone out to be Trump.
01:14:16.000I want to mention on the, uh, parental rights and education chat or, uh, Bill, I saw something in the chicken city chat a couple of days ago, and I wish I could remember the username to attribute it to them, but they said it's not, don't say gay it's wait till they're eight, which is, So much more of an accurate way of describing the bill and also helps you understand that it doesn't even go far enough.
01:14:34.000Well, so this is, um, you don't want to give the guy too much attention, but to respond to Cenk Uygur, because he tweeted back at me saying, you guys love to claim the name is this that or otherwise, but it perfectly describes the bill.
01:14:45.000I'm like, the bill bans discussions of traditional marriage.
01:14:48.000That they conflated a bill that was trying to prevent teachers from telling kids not to talk to their parents about conversations with homosexuality is egregious.
01:14:58.000Like, it does a disservice to the homosexual community.
01:15:01.000Yeah, and now we have the fact that you're learning that teachers are hiding transgender stuff.
01:15:13.000Teach them how to write and read and send them home.
01:15:16.000And if the parents want them to read about sex at whatever age, hopefully by the time they're 13 or 14 maybe, But, you know, there's nothing... I've read the bill.
01:15:29.000Now, you know, you could say the same thing about why can't they talk about my marriage with a man and a woman and... But, you know, I've said this before.
01:15:39.000There's an over-representation of gay people in the media.
01:15:42.000There's a lot of gay people who work in the media.
01:15:46.000And those people amplify... They make up 6% of the population.
01:15:50.000That's the whole alphabet character. 6%.
01:15:53.000And that's, you know, they amplify these causes to a point where, you know, years ago that didn't happen.
01:16:01.000And nowadays it happens because they're afraid to be called homophobic for not doing it.
01:16:06.000What we need is for all of these religious teachers to just have discussions with five-year-olds about the Bible and then to tell those kids, Don't let your parents know.
01:16:57.000Imagine if a teacher baptized your kid without you knowing and that's not that that's technically permanent But it's not like altering their body.
01:17:06.000It's just you know, the fact that kids are lonely and want to fit into a group I remember going into the first gay club and I think the issue was it was that first moment I ever felt normal because there were people like me around and And that was 1988.
01:17:21.000And I can't even imagine today what it feels like for them that now you have to be part of this group.
01:17:29.000And that if you're not that, you know, you're shunned or whatever.
01:17:32.000But, you know, I see a point of it, but it's also a very, very slippery slope that you're making decisions young.
01:17:40.000I mean, I came out in the AIDS right dead center of it and got out of it without a problem because, you know, I save sex and That was it.
01:17:50.000But if you're young these days, the pressures on you to be something maybe you're not is permanent nowadays.
01:17:58.000Because, you know, once those surgeries and all that stuff happen, and then, you know, there's a growing evidence of people who are now saying, I wish I hadn't done this.
01:18:06.000Blair White's interviewed more than one person.
01:18:08.000That they're saying that this was a mistake.
01:18:17.000So this ties back to all the stuff happening with Elon Musk.
01:18:20.000When you have no people to explain a negative circumstance, you only hear a positive circumstance.
01:18:27.000And so what was happening was there was a subreddit that was about detransitioning, and it was people telling their story saying, you know, I didn't have a good time.
01:18:49.000Because it became, I don't know when it happened, because being gay, you don't think about it, but I guess it was probably like 10 years ago where You know, the pride and all this stuff that comes out that you have to celebrate this.
01:19:02.000You know, that being gay requires an extra level of celebration.
01:19:18.000And, you know, I've said this a thousand times, you know, whoever owns the language owns everything and if you can say that this is hate speech because you have said that these people don't didn't agree or had a really bad time transitioning and here's 500 of them and that somehow offends the other side that you're not allowed to talk about it then you're going to create a big and but that's happening in our society with everything this goes back to uh... the twitter conversation again in which
01:19:49.000Twitter's view of everything was that it was all filtered through a leftist lens.
01:19:55.000And they kept saying they weren't biased, and I'm trying to explain this to these guys.
01:19:59.000I'm like, you're so biased you don't know you are.
01:20:03.000You are surrounded by nothing but people on the left, no one but leftists.
01:20:06.000You've never talked to a conservative, so you assume when you hear an opinion from a conservative, it's a fringe opinion that no one cares about.
01:20:20.000I find that the left tends to be... It's no surprise that they tend to be atheist, secular, or outright condemn or reject religion because they typically view themselves as the universal center.
01:20:32.000And they're supposedly the most tolerant, which I was hysterical, but the least tolerant people you've ever met in your life.
01:20:40.000But I think as they lose religion, whatever religion that is, as they lose a sense... Their religion becomes their identity, their sexual identity.
01:20:50.000People who, if you believe there's something greater than you, in any sense, be it spirituality, be it the universe, magnetic fields, you tend to treat other people more equally because you're like, I'm a person and you're a person, and I must do unto others as I would have them do unto me.
01:21:06.000But if you think there's nothing there, Well, then you're going to be more ego-driven.
01:21:10.000You're going to be the one standing on the podium saying, I deserve this.
01:21:20.000Well, I think we're in a zero tolerance for hurting people's feelings.
01:21:23.000Well, and this happened before, when I spoke out on the show a few weeks ago and just mentioned that I don't believe in gay marriage, Media Matters did a write-up on the show, and they also made it seem as if everyone on the panel agreed with me.
01:21:41.000And it was, who was it, Alex Brusewitz?
01:21:44.000It was the three of us, and we both were in agreement with gay marriage, and you weren't, and they made it seem like the whole show was, and then Media Matters is like, watch out for these grifters who will change their opinions.
01:21:54.000And it's like, not a person here changed their opinion.
01:22:03.000Well, I think that we're in a society where hurting someone's feelings is violence now.
01:22:10.000I have low tolerance for malicious behavior.
01:22:12.000If someone's trying to hurt someone maliciously, then I'm going to step in.
01:22:16.000But if someone says something that someone interprets and gets upset about, usually the person that's feeling the upset, it's in their mind.
01:22:22.000There's something that they're going through.
01:22:24.000It's like being at a party with all of us and he goes, I don't really, just really not.
01:22:28.000My religion doesn't conform to gay marriage.
01:22:34.000Like, like, I, you know, I'm a traditionalist in a lot of senses that don't conform to what might be good for me just because I, you know, everyone's like, you have to be pro-gay.
01:22:45.000Well, no, I, I think this institution kind of worked and I'm not sure that, you know, but hey, society decided in their own legal ways that that was the way it was going to be and so be it.
01:22:56.000But that doesn't mean that those other people vanish the day, you know, that those court cases came down.
01:23:01.000Those people are still there and they should be able to.
01:23:04.000So what you're saying for X amount of hundreds of years of not having gay marriage is the minute you have gay marriage, none of those people's opinions can exist anymore in the same space.
01:23:35.000I just want to point out, going back to this meme from Elon, I think it's funny because if you look at 2008, the far left person is actually right wing in 2021.
01:23:45.000So going back to what Seamus was saying about Barack Obama.
01:23:48.000So we focused on the guy in the center, the me, and how the center becomes, you know, changes and now he's right wing.
01:23:54.000But if my fellow liberals stayed in this spot on the left and moved down, he would be center right in 2021.
01:24:00.000Barack Obama, Running on universal health care in 2007, in 2008, and now they're calling him a Republican.
01:24:32.000The person who was crazy screamed at the end of the road, and now they have a Twitter account.
01:24:37.000I think it is time that we start ignoring those who drove off the cliff.
01:24:44.000And I'll just say, you, I am a staunch leftist here who believes in universal basic health care, and you crazy conservatives, ooh, I shake my fist at you.
01:24:54.000Those other crazy guys, they had nothing to do with this conversation anymore.
01:25:00.000Let's pull the center back, reassert what left and right are, and the crazy people who drove off the cliff, they drove off the cliff.
01:25:06.000They're not part of this conversation.
01:25:07.000I think the economics for that are there.
01:25:09.000Meaning I think you're seeing it with CNN.
01:25:11.000I think you're seeing it with cable news.
01:25:13.000The one that keeps Trugging down the road is Fox and the right media seems to be going quite well.
01:25:20.000And it's the left that seems to be kind of going off the cliff.
01:25:23.000Because I think that graphic says a lot about a lot of people in the United States that consider themselves Democrats or left and now look and go, what am I?
01:25:35.000When I was on the Daily Wire's backstage live, I pointed out the difference between us.
01:25:39.000Here I am, I'm wearing jeans and an unbuttoned shirt, and they're all dressed very, very nice.
01:25:44.000And we're having a conversation where we mostly agree on a lot of issues, like voting for DeSantis versus Trump.
01:25:51.000I just think it's funny that the issues that would really divide us, traditional liberal versus traditional conservative, don't even come up because they're on the back burner compared to the greater problems we're facing.
01:26:03.000And we've faced worse, and that's the sad part.
01:26:05.000Like, this country's gone through, even in my lifetime, my God, I got out of high school and the economy was through the ground and Reagan and, you know, there was a lot of, we have the Cold War, we're gonna die every day from, like, Red Dawn and come for Red October.
01:26:18.000Like, that was our lives, you know, and there's this giant war going on and at some point, Russia's just gonna be like, who are we fighting considering all the, and people are just like, eh, I'm just, I don't know.
01:26:29.000And the crazy thing is a lot of Millennials don't realize they were born during the Cold War.
01:26:33.000And their parents were crazy, probably drinking and smoking.
01:26:36.000And that gave us the Millennials, because there's got to be an excuse for how this ended up the way it did.
01:26:41.000But what I was saying is, I think social media and stuff about what has changed in this, like when I grew up, there wasn't school shootings.
01:26:47.000And because kids got home decompressed, they got away from the bullies.
01:26:53.000They were able to spend time with that geeky friends, go back, maybe get bullied that day.
01:26:58.000Now you have kids that can't ever get away from this, that they're connected to this bullying and bad and good and bad.
01:27:05.000And I think also on the other end of the spectrum, I think in most societies, there's a lot of people who just don't need to contribute what they need.
01:27:13.000Just go scream in the corner, say it to your parents and stuff, but there's some people that just don't need to tell the world.
01:27:22.000I've seen people, I've seen companies stop advertising, and I think it was Harry's was somebody
01:27:28.000from a Twitter account that said that this company was, it might be the Daily, that they were anti-trans,
01:27:34.000and the Twitter follower had like 38 followers.
01:28:00.000I'm just fascinated that from where I grew up, you know, just going back to what I was mentioning before about Backstage Live, is like even having this conversation with Seamus, most of the political conversations we have are on things we completely agree on, and we only ever so often touch on the things we don't agree on, even though you and I disagree on some stuff to a great degree.
01:28:18.000But the cultural battles we're fighting, Free speech, individual liberties, personal responsibility, all of these things that used to be just an American value.
01:28:29.000Yeah, now it's like, okay, those other things are here, like we'll discuss them, but man, those people are crazy.
01:28:34.000Well, what we've gone to now is some people can, some people have different abilities to say what they can and some people can't.
01:28:41.000You know, a Catholic can't say to me that I don't have a value and I'm not all, like, Well, we wouldn't say you don't have value as a person.
01:28:50.000Yeah, we would say they believe homosexual activity is sinful.
01:28:54.000And, you know, we live in a Jesse Smollett world where, you know, he represented everything I saw coming down the track.
01:29:01.000Like, you're going to commit this giant crime to become a victim.
01:29:07.000I remember when What's-Her-Name said she was black.
01:29:13.000Or the first time I heard Safe Space and thought, that's never going to take place.
01:29:17.000And people are like, these kids are getting out of school and they're going to bully them because they know how to use social media.
01:29:21.000But social media had gotten to a point, and you're right, and I see it in the media where a lot of these older editors are scared to death of like Taylor Lorenz.
01:29:43.000Next thing you know, this 50-year-old guy gets 30 tweets, and it's like, you're an evil man, you're evil, and they're like, what's happening?
01:29:56.000It's not just a question of what you're allowed to say.
01:29:58.000It's a question of what the people you have associated with are allowed to say, or rather, who you're allowed to associate with based on what they've said.
01:30:05.000So, I don't like to pay too much attention to celebrities, but before the show we were discussing the fact that Chris Pratt Is being cancelled.
01:30:27.000That the former president of the United States, Barack Obama, went to a church with Reverend Wright as the preacher who said, in a sermon that was leaked, that the United States government invented HIV to kill black people.
01:30:42.000Barack Obama attended that church for years.
01:30:45.000And when this footage leaked, the media said, no, that's mean to talk about.
01:30:49.000And every conservative in media went, okay, fine, we won't talk about that, even though it's literally true.
01:30:53.000But the Chris Pratt thing was that story goes back, I think, several years to this actor individual saying he goes to this church.
01:31:04.000And the new story is because I think James Gunn responded to a Twitter account that had three followers.
01:31:09.000So, you know, Chris Pratt's not going anywhere.
01:31:12.000Yeah, but it's just interesting that people would actually see that as something that was worthy of getting a person cancelled, and could effectively get them cancelled, because we've seen people get in trouble for that kind of thing in the past.
01:31:21.000But hold on, the tweet was... Someone tweeted, hey Marvel, you know, recast him.
01:31:35.000And then the people Google this Twitter account this right this Twitter account with three followers didn't say
01:31:40.000anything about religion or politics It just said hey cast this guy the person that said I
01:31:44.000Posted that because I saw the actor and thought they looked alike right that was it James Gunn
01:31:50.000Injected cancel culture into the narrative. It was like a weird inverse cancel culture
01:31:55.000I think, to be fair, there were so many articles flooding the internet over Chris Pratt's church that I think it makes sense that he would read that into the tweet.
01:32:04.000I think I'll end this with... No, no, that story was years ago, bro.
01:32:08.000No, I know, but if people are going to try to cancel somebody, it's probably going to be the thing they were trying to cancel over a few years ago.
01:32:14.000The issue is, as you say, this is what I think about gay, and this is what I think is going to happen, and I listen to you.
01:32:54.000And that's the problem is that no one can just disagree.
01:32:58.000And then Media Matters is out there saying, you know, because this is not how this this is not how civil society should work.
01:33:07.000We should just be able to say, like, yeah, you know, I have plenty.
01:33:10.000I have family members who didn't think it was great, you know, but I agree that they that's their opinion and they love each other and we love each other.
01:33:19.000Well yeah, I mean the modern ethos is no one can disagree with me without being a horrifically corrupt person and also if someone does disagree with me we have to ensure that they're never allowed to speak to me.
01:33:32.000The LGBT side of it says you have to love me and embrace my lifestyle and you have to put a flag and do all these other things and change your logos.
01:33:42.000That's not how I view life because Let's go to Super Chats!
01:33:46.000amount a month we have to put religious symbols up. Be based. Right. But no, well and also this
01:33:52.000idea of love, this idea that loving someone means you have to agree with everything they're doing.
01:33:57.000And that's what we've lost. Yeah. Let's go to Super Chats.
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01:35:08.000And then he blinds the orcs as they stampede.
01:35:12.000Rising Underdog says, still want Tim to have Adam Carolla on as a guest to discuss his book, In 50 Years We'll All Be Chicks and the Pussification of America.
01:35:23.000I would be honored to have Adam Carolla on the show.
01:35:31.000It's kind of bizarre that they were together because Dr. Drew is such a kind of mainstream milquetoast figure, whereas Adam Kroll is probably really politically incorrect.
01:37:48.000I even as an editor look on certain sites I used to work at, and there was no way three, four, five years ago that that headline and that stuff would be without an opinion.
01:37:57.000The Huffington Post is an opinion website.
01:38:13.000Tam Tom says, instead of spending $100,000 on a billboard, why not have a drawing for your website members and give away $10,000 to 10 members?
01:38:22.000Actually help us regular folk who support you.
01:39:02.000Google search it, and there are automated services where you log in, they'll give you the specs for the ad, and they'll say how many times you want it to run, and they say it costs $18 per run.
01:39:14.000They may have a minimum of like 100 runs or whatever.
01:39:22.000Maybe not everybody can afford that, but it's not a hundred- If you want to get, like, that big one right underneath the Genoa thing on Olive Garden, that one costs $625,000 per week.
01:39:34.000But most of these billboards are rotating digital video, and it's not that expensive.
01:39:42.000Not only that, there's a whole bunch of different ads you can get.
01:39:46.000You can go up to the biggest billboard in Times Square for $2.5 million per month, down to the bench on the side of the road, which is literally $100.
01:39:57.000They're like, well, the bench is dirt cheap.
01:39:58.000It'll cost you 300 bucks for the month.
01:40:00.000So if you want to get I don't the billboard I don't want to give, I don't want to give away too many details because there's other companies involved.
01:40:09.000Thanks to Teller Run so you know everything about billboards.
01:41:05.000I always wondered why it was more people didn't buy billboards and make statements and do things like we did with Taylor Lorenz calling her out.
01:45:12.000But I was like, when these new video games come out, like Call of Duty, let's do a Call of Duty themed investigation into what are these weapons?
01:45:20.000How close to reality do these video games get?
01:45:23.000And actually, I think the pitch was like, can we get the companies to actually co-sponsor the documentaries because it would be like an ad for them.
01:46:24.000A conscious perspective says, hey IRL team, here's a thought.
01:46:27.000What if Elon knew about the inflated subscriber numbers and put all this into motion to expose Twitter and then be able to renegotiate his original offer?
01:47:32.000We just, I posted on Instagram, it's an isolated vocal track of the new Chicken City theme song.
01:47:38.000And if you want to hear me sing the second verse about Roberto and Roberto Jr., you can check that out on my Instagram, instagram.com slash timcast.
01:48:09.000Oh two five four eight six five seven four Asterix question mark question mark question mark this account has replied to a couple of my comments in here And I fear it's a phishing attempt.
01:51:44.000Adam Brenneman says, Jimmy Kimmel stopped doing celebrities read mean tweets after Obama read Trump's tweet, then said Trump would never be president.
01:52:08.000So the issue the issue is that Crispy our chicken tender crispy crispy chicken tender was On a secret mission and unable to take care of the speaker being going off But I think they've taken care of it all right now because they're back I just had a thought about Obama trash-talking Trump and basically encouraging him to run against him.
01:52:53.000Well, I'm not saying torture, but criticism.
01:52:55.000But if we're really in a culture war, if we're going to use these metaphors, at what point is criticism torturous?
01:52:59.000So the issue is that she calls criticism torture, and it's like the first time she's ever experienced any kind of contrary voice to her own ideas.
01:53:07.000Because I don't think we're in a culture war.
01:53:10.000I would say if you were like actually legitimately harassing a person.
01:53:15.000I think if you make a good point against someone and then they're basically at your will after that, you have them, and then you keep going at them, that that's a form of torture.
01:53:26.000It's definitely not pleasant, but I don't— It's not real torture.
01:53:28.000It's not military torture, but it's culture war torture.
01:53:30.000I don't want to soften the word torture.
01:54:07.000Alright, Jacob Frederick says, Hey Shim and crew, love the show, but I've heard you talk about Indiana being a pretty good conservative state before, but I beg to differ.
01:54:16.000Since we have one of the highest gas taxes in the country and our governor vetoed a ban on trans men in women's sports.
01:55:58.000I mean, it's the same thing that when I was growing up that you're going to turn kids gay if you talk about it and so forth.
01:56:05.000You know, I have a lot of straight, tons of more straight friends than gay friends, and trust me, if a guy likes a woman, you're not gonna turn him, as much as you can try to convince him all you want, nothing's gonna.
01:56:15.000All right, John Sanchez says, Tim Pool, duel me in Magic the Gathering, you coward!
01:56:21.000Well, I only play commander for the most part, and you'd be obliterated.
01:56:25.000Ian and I stopped playing because it got to the point where whoever went first won.
01:57:19.000Ross Boisvert says, Tim and crew, I'm an AT&T business rep.
01:57:23.000If you want a second look at options, shoot me a message on Twitter at the new Ross GB and I can get you my work contact info.
01:57:31.000Yeah, maybe, but like, you know, when I walk in and I have impeccable credit and I'm running this business and I say, we just need, you know, hotspot, wifi.
01:57:41.000And they're like, looks like the company is requiring you.
01:59:09.000And I even said the story should have been framed as Tucker Carlson was talking about it, people on Twitter were talking about it, but you need to understand fires might just happen all the time and we may just have noticed them.
01:59:21.000However, it is true because we did the fact checking, there actually were substantially more fires this year in the first quarter than I think all of last year.
01:59:42.000You know, we try not to make mistakes.
01:59:44.000If we were like the Daily Beast, we would just say, no, and we'd leave it up for the clicks, because the Daily Beast doesn't correct their articles.
02:00:12.000But also, you, if you want an analogous of that, at the moment, you had a fire, you took $18 of gasoline and just threw it on it, because Whatever you paid for the thing was six.
02:00:24.000I mean that thing that was a picture of that went everywhere Oh, yeah, I took a Carlson shadow as a I saw it and friend in Spain and daily wire hooked it up, you know went everywhere Yeah, daily wire already had the billboard and then the secondary story was her responding and you know Her being upset.
02:00:42.000You know, my issue with it is just that she uses the Washington Post as a weapon.